#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-7.sprintlink.net!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT slab serial port pinouts?? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:05:29 +0500 Organization: Internet Knowledge Bank Lines: 58 Message-ID: <32C7B009.7980@sprintmail.com> References: <32c41c24.84943640@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-001flspetp04.dialsprint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------1F9B40FD54A40" X-Sender: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) To: zatezalo.2@osu.edu X-Priority: Normal ------------1F9B40FD54A40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Slab serial port pin assignment Pin 1 =DTR Pin 2=DCD Pin 3=TXD Pin 4=Gnd Pin 5=RXD Pin 6=RTS Pin 7=RTXC Pin 8=CTS Hope this helps, Ray ------------1F9B40FD54A40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Slab serial port pin assignment
 
Pin 1 =DTR
Pin 2=DCD
Pin 3=TXD
Pin 4=Gnd
Pin 5=RXD
Pin 6=RTS
Pin 7=RTXC
Pin 8=CTS
 
Hope this helps,
 
Ray 
------------1F9B40FD54A40-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.asu.edu!jak From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT PowerPC Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:29:02 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <32C74D89.3843@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> <32C7A405.EF0@invisix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp2-04.inre.asu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.6 In article <32C7A405.EF0@invisix.com>, mattj@invisix.com wrote: >HisMajesty wrote: >> >> NeXT had some unreleased PowerPC hardware. Does anyone know anything >> about them like what happened? > >Like what PPC hardware? Any details on what it is/was? They were supposed to be dual 50-MHz 601s. --- - ------- ------- Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. - Beethoven jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!news.asu.edu!jak From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: frivolous monitor question Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:34:29 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp2-04.inre.asu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.6 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26378 comp.sys.next.misc:23993 Do any of the black NeXT color monitors have the same cool stand the mono monitors do? Do all the mono monitors have that stand? (I'm referring to the original stand.) john --- - ------- ------- And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables. - The Tick jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: thecros@winternet.com (Michael Charles Crosby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:44:36 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5a9gkk$h05@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: pitts.eng.sun.com This article canceled. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!sidney.cps.msu.edu!newsmaster From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Time to upgrade the printer Date: 31 Dec 1996 03:19:48 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5aa0ok$c9q@sidney.cps.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: a2p03.connect.net X-MSUnetID: perkins X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) Hi all! Well... it is time to upgrade the printer from a HP DeskJet 500 to a postscript laser printer. I am interested in postscript because: a) No hassle use with NeXTSTEP b) If I ever move to a different platform (AppleStep or whatever it will be called) I want something that won't require drivers that may not be ported. I am interested in Laser because ink jet is nice... but not nice enough. This will be a printer for personal use and not too high a volume (except my thesis which I will be printing on this printer). I would appreciate tips on printers people found to be of good quality and value (i.e. not overpriced). TIA for any thoughts! - Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | NetMass Communications | mailto:perkins@netmass.com NeXT OS3.3 with PPP-2.3 | NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!news.mr.net!news.goldengate.net!not-for-mail From: Matt Jurcich Subject: Re: frivolous monitor question Message-ID: <32C8A64F.5CCA@invisix.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 23:36:15 -0600 References: Reply-To: mattj@invisix.com Organization: Invisix X-Sender: Matt Jurcich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 18 John Kestner wrote: > > Do any of the black NeXT color monitors have the same cool stand the mono > monitors do? Do all the mono monitors have that stand? (I'm referring to > the original stand.) > > john I have a 17" NeXT color monitor (Fimi). It does not have a stand like the mono monitors. It has a regular tilt-n-swivel thingy. -- What do you call a room full of Macintosh computers? An Apple orchard. THE NETWORK IS THE COMPUTER. (C) Sun Microsystems. http://www.invisix.com ... NeXT, Silicon Graphics and Stuff #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!news From: Paul Naton Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I network ColorStation to my new power Mac? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:21:06 -0800 Organization: CTS Network Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: <32C8B0C1.7F57@cts.com> Reply-To: pnatona@cts.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pcb101.cts.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) What is required to network my still cool but aging Turbo color Nextstation (3.2) to my new screaming fast Power Computing Powertower Pro 180? I hear it is pretty easy with ethernet. Any tips, comments, instructions or guidence would be helpful!!!! I am not a complete networking novice but have no experience getting a Slab to talk to a Mac. This may save me from getting a zip drive for the Next to transfer large graphics files back and forth. Mac and Next together atlast..........should have happened years ago........ love them both E-mail me or post in the newsgroup. Thanks Paul Naton pnatona@cts.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!news.asu.edu!jak From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 01:01:17 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp3-01.inre.asu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.6 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26382 comp.sys.next.misc:24022 If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it possible to print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up to the NeXTstation? Or is there any other way to get from the Mac to the NeXT printer? Any help is much appreciated. john --- - ------- ------- You're not going crazy, you're going sane in a crazy world! - The Tick jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT PowerPC Date: 31 Dec 1996 08:35:54 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <19961231083400.DAA05470@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com The path of Risc chip usage at NeXT was: 1) An Intel i860 but became the bases for the NeXT Demension board. 2) Then a Motorola 88110 but was drop when 3) The PPC 601 came out. JQ :-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.idt.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!portal.gmu.edu!rraman From: rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I put a 3.5" full-height drive into a Turbo Color Station? Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:35:27 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: site.gmu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Tin [Version 1.2 PL2] Hello all, Can I install a full-height hard drive (3.5") into a Turbo slab? I would appreciate if some one could fill me in on this soon... TIA -Ravi #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Info on Black monitors wanted Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32c77527.584325082@news.online.no> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:18:10 GMT Lines: 18 In article <32c77527.584325082@news.online.no> adsen@zen.linpro.no (Petter Adsen) writes: > Has anyone got any pointers to where I might find some info on black > monitors? I'm trying to find out what models were made, and the specs > of these (esp. 21"). > The printed Users Manual (for NS 2.1) that came with every black machine has an appendix stating the overall specs and pinout of the system box. No other formal docs available. The 21" color monitor was supplied by Hitachi, I suppose. Try the FAQ on Peanuts for more detailed info. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The jumping clock problem Date: 31 Dec 1996 18:11:22 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5abl0a$gb0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: loa.psych.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 1.333 $] NF-S-00020 Until a recent motherboard upgrade, I had a funny problem with my 486-based white NeXT. Periodically, the clock would start to jump ahead by large amounts (10s of seconds, or minutes). This would make BackSpace (which was set to start up after 5 minutes) kick in every few seconds, and even if BackSpace wasn't running the machine soon got so screwed up that it was unusable. A reboot did not always fix the problem. When I replaced the cheap 486 motherboard with a good ASUS Pentium one, the problem disappeared. However, I've just been asked to look into some hardware problems at a local hospital that uses some cheap white NeXTs, and apparently they have "jumping clocks" too. If anyone has done a full diagnosis of this problem and can suggest a good fix, I'd be really interested to hear about it. Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!news.sfasu.edu!euler!mcwilljg From: Joseph McWilliams Subject: Need advice on BNC connectors Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:41:57 -0600 X-Sender: mcwilljg@euler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 9 I'm setting up a small network and will connect two NeXT 040 slabs using Thinnet coax. Does the BNC T-adapter need to be F/M/F or F/F/F? Also what resistance should the BNC terminators be, 50, 75, or 93 OHM? Thanks. Joe McWilliams #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!207.76.102.250!newman.pcisys.net!news From: root@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 Date: 31 Dec 1996 20:41:53 GMT Organization: bytewarecafe.com Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5abtqh$82g@newman.pcisys.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.76.102.212 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] We are a new site on the internet and we can supply your hardware needs. As a promotion to get our name out to you, we are running a special promotion on 32Meg simms. For a very limited time, we are selling 32Meg/70ns EDO simms for just 140+shipping and handling, delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Just go to our site www.bytewarecafe.com and fill out the necessary information about yourself and your credit card information. Goto the products list and choose the memory item. From here, select the memory you want and click on the invoice button to see your total charges. If you wish to browse the other hardware categories, feel free to browse for as long as you wish. If you wish to buy anything else, just select that item from that category. If you are satisfied with your selection(s) and your personal information is correct, click on the submit order button. The bytewarecafe.com server will respond with an order number and a time stamp. You will need these two numbers for any future correspondences with bytewarecafe.com Your order will be prepared and delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Thank you. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.nacamar.de!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!207.76.102.250!newman.pcisys.net!news From: root@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 Date: 31 Dec 1996 20:41:51 GMT Organization: bytewarecafe.com Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5abtqf$82g@newman.pcisys.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.76.102.212 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] We are a new site on the internet and we can supply your hardware needs. As a promotion to get our name out to you, we are running a special promotion on 32Meg simms. For a very limited time, we are selling 32Meg/70ns EDO simms for just 140+shipping and handling, delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Just go to our site www.bytewarecafe.com and fill out the necessary information about yourself and your credit card information. Goto the products list and choose the memory item. From here, select the memory you want and click on the invoice button to see your total charges. If you wish to browse the other hardware categories, feel free to browse for as long as you wish. If you wish to buy anything else, just select that item from that category. If you are satisfied with your selection(s) and your personal information is correct, click on the submit order button. The bytewarecafe.com server will respond with an order number and a time stamp. You will need these two numbers for any future correspondences with bytewarecafe.com Your order will be prepared and delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Thank you. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.scott.net!acara.snsnet.net!news From: "Jonathan D. Nolen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice wanted: Mac user -> NeXT beginner Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:55:33 +0000 Organization: Southern Network Services Lines: 22 Message-ID: <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: graphicsws2.snsnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) I am a dedicated Mac user and due to recent events, I have developed an acute interest in NeXT. I am interested in acquiring a low-end NeXT box to play around with. Before two days ago, I knew almost nothing about the NeXT platform, and I have a few questions that I hope someone can answer. Are the mono NeXT machines upgradeable to color? How would one go about this and how much would it cost? Most older systems seem to be bundled with hard drives of 100-300 mb capacities. Are these adequate? For instance, how large is the current version of the system? Speaking of the system, will OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach run on the older NeXT hardware? Are there any concerns about doing so? Are there significant disadvantages to running older versions of the system? Are the older NeXT machines ethernet capable out of the box, or do they require more hardware, like a NIC? I know that NeXT can mount Mac drives from an appletalk network, but can a Mac mount NeXT drives? Thank you for all your help, Jonathan D. Nolen noljd@rhodes.edu -or- nolen@snsnet.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!news3.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!huelf.hamburg.com!stefan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <9612311230.AA02088@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) From: Stefan Huelf Date: Tue, 31 Dec 96 13:30:54 +0100 Subject: Re: from NeXT PowerPC hardware (NeXTbrick) to Apple's Halo w/ 500Mhz Cc: jimmiequan@aol.com, HisMajesty Lines: 65 His Majesty??? wrote: > NeXT had some unreleased PowerPC hardware. Does anyone know anything > about them like what happened? Yes, when NeXT had to drop their Hardware plans in the beginning of 1993 because of Apple & IBM putting pressure on Motorola, not to serve NeXT but Apple first (their HarwarePPC-design was still in the works until 1994) Canon has got the rights to all the future NeXTHardware, like the NeXTbrick and them Nitros (68040 - 40 Mhz - NeXTs)! Then a new startup company, called FirePower (they consisted of 150 People coming from NeXT, Canon and Apple) got the rights to the hardware. This year, in 1996, FirePower introduced the FirePower AustinPowerPlay^2, the spiritual descendent of the NeXTbrick, which was running WinNT on 2 PPCs as an SMP machine. FirePower said, that as soon as the PPCplatform spec. (formally known as PreP or CHRP - PPC Common Hardware Reference Platform) is finally set, it would be able to bring a Computer to market based on this new spec., within 4 weeks! Later down the road, Motorola aquired FirePower, so thats were the rights and the knowledge is today.... I am not sure if their (Motorolas) new MacOS-Clones are based on this design ( I believe not!). But the prototyes build by NeXT, I believe their were 4 of them, are sitting at some NeXTengineers home, which did port at least NeXTSTEP 3.3 on it in their spare time. But the Apple Halo machine with the Exponentials bipolar X704 - 500Mhz will bring Joy to the Apple / NeXT community. Maybe it will even be an SMP - Machine. W ho knows????? ;-) Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 --- REAL Computing is b(l)ack stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail, MIME and ASCII) with AppleSTEP! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news --- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-stock.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!van1s03.cyberion.com!news From: bubba Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: $Original Black$ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:33:10 -0800 Organization: Cyberion Networking Corp. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <32C994A6.316C@imag.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rotate.imag.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Attention : Antique Dealers Original Black Hardware! NeXTstation color, keyboard, mouse, 17" Megapixel Color Monitor, Ext HD, CD ROM drive, Colour BJ Printer (360 dpi), Laser Printer (400 dpi), and lots of software (mostly graphics). All original boxes and manuals included!! Make me an offer I can't refuse. email : matthew@imag.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uuneo.neosoft.com!news From: buddyc@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice wanted: Mac user -> NeXT beginner Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:59:56 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 37 Message-ID: <32C8496C.398F@ibm.net> References: <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> Reply-To: buddyc@ibm.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.109.153.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Jonathan D. Nolen wrote: > > I am a dedicated Mac user and due to recent events, I have developed an > acute interest in NeXT. I am interested in acquiring a low-end NeXT box > to play around with. Before two days ago, I knew almost nothing about > the NeXT platform, and I have a few questions that I hope someone can > answer. > Are the mono NeXT machines upgradeable to color? How would one > go about this and how much would it cost? no ... with the exception of a Cube system. You may upgrade a cube system by purchasing a Dimension board and color monitor (+ soundbox if you choose to run it single headed). > Most older systems seem to be bundled with hard drives of > 100-300 mb capacities. Are these adequate? For instance, how large is > the current version of the system? not really ... depending on whether you go with user or user/developer you could use a lot more. It also depends of course on which applications and the type of work you will be doing on it. For nothing fancy (user only) ... 300 - 400MB will do. That will allow you to install the full OS and allow you some room to grow. > Speaking of the system, will OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach run on the > older NeXT hardware? Are there any concerns about doing so? Are there > significant disadvantages to running older versions of the system? yes. Openstep buys you compatibility with applications written for all the MACH platforms. Are the older NeXT machines ethernet capable out of the box, or > do they require more hardware, like a NIC? I know that NeXT can mount > Mac drives from an appletalk network, but can a Mac mount NeXT drives? out of the box with ethernet (all systems) > > Thank you for all your help, > Jonathan D. Nolen > noljd@rhodes.edu > -or- > nolen@snsnet.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5abtqh$82g@newman.pcisys.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 02:29:29 GMT Control: cancel <5abtqh$82g@newman.pcisys.net> Message-ID: Sender: root@bytewarecafe.com X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970101.11. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970101.11.html for complete report. Original Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5abtqf$82g@newman.pcisys.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 02:28:30 GMT Control: cancel <5abtqf$82g@newman.pcisys.net> Message-ID: Sender: root@bytewarecafe.com X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970101.11. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970101.11.html for complete report. Original Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!newsfeed1.aimnet.com!news1.aplatform.com!ns4.mainstreet.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!ablecom!NewsWatcher!user From: donald@ppp.ablecom.net (Don North) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT PowerPC Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 19:38:05 -0700 Organization: Slow Death, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <32C74D89.3843@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> <19961230091500.EAA05255@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.75.62.47 In article <19961230091500.EAA05255@ladder01.news.aol.com>, jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) wrote: > Around Dec '92, NeXT invited Apple over to look at it's PowerPC > hardward since NeXT was about to get out of the hardware business, they > wanted to sell it's design. Apple thought they could do it better and > decided that they were not interested in it. To demo the hardware, the > PowerPC was running NeXTStep at the time but Apple was interested in that > either. > So there are 3 possiblities. They're still inside NeXT, it became > landfill :-( or more likely (like most protos) it's in some ex-NeXT > engineer's garage collecting dust. I guess we'll have to wait another 10 > years to found out which engineers might have it when Mr. Cringerly > finishes his finally chapter on the nerds. Or a fourth: NeXT spun out their hardware group as 'FirePower Systems' which became a PREP PowerPC design house, and is most likely now moving to CHRP. Recently the Motorola Computer Group purchased FirePower (still located in Menlo Park, CA, I believe) to be an internal design resource. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: help@spry.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FREE EDUCATIONAL VIDEO/CDs Date: 1 Jan 1997 03:16:34 GMT Organization: Self Help Corp Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cust102.max4.new-york.ny.ms.uu.net FREE ACCESS: WORLDS LARGEST COLLECTION OF SELF-HELP, EDUCATIONAL, INSRUCTIONAL,AND INFORMATIONAL VIDEO TAPES AND CD ROMs. http://www.totalmarketing.com "IMPORTANT" ACCESS CODE FOR SITE IS "69589" (69589) PLEASE MAKE A NOTE OF THIS ACCESS CODE, AS YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE SITE WITHOUT IT. " LEARN AT HOME " #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Black vs. White Date: 1 Jan 97 00:34:23 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.50.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.advocacy Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26396 comp.sys.next.software:26953 comp.sys.next.advocacy:49350 Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk!news From: Paul_Lynch@griffin.plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice wanted: Mac user -> NeXT beginner Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 05:36:34 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Lines: 15 Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1997Jan1.053634.25171@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> Reply-To: Paul_Lynch@griffin.plsys.co.uk X-Mail2News-User: news@seer.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: plsys.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk In article <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> "Jonathan D. Nolen" writes: > Are the older NeXT machines ethernet capable out of the box, or > do they require more hardware, like a NIC? I know that NeXT can mount > Mac drives from an appletalk network, but can a Mac mount NeXT drives? They all have ethernet. Not all systems support AppleTalk; those that do support the ethernet variety only, and can't act as a server. You can buy IPT Partner for other systems. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 05:29:04 GMT Control: cancel <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sender: help@spry.com X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970101.35. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970101.35.html for complete report. Original Subject: FREE EDUCATIONAL VIDEO/CDs #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sgi.com!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!info.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!noc.van.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White Date: 1 Jan 1997 06:39:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5ad0qj$k8e@news.digifix.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26398 comp.sys.next.software:26958 comp.sys.next.advocacy:49360 On 12/31/96, "Mitchell Allen" wrote: >Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black >and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences >between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. > While I don't have any hard data to provide, the 133MHz Pentium that I'm currently working on is noticibly faster than the 040 Turbo Slab that I have been using for the past few years. I wish I was able to run it on the Pentium Pro 200 sitting next to it (alas, it is serving other duties). :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!leto!news.ou.edu!news.nodak.edu!plains.nodak.edu!not-for-mail From: awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help disk label problem Date: 1 Jan 1997 00:53:19 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN) Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5ad1kv$6j6@plains.nodak.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plains.nodak.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit okay. i'm in desperate need of help. NEXTSTEP 3.3 for intel. i installed system commander. i didn't like it. i deinstalled it it horked my second disk. here's what happens. i boot my system, and it gets as far as trying to mount the second disk. which is labeled LocalDisk it fails saying there's an invalid disk label. and dumps me to single user mode prompting to fsck it manually. fsck won't work. it claims the disk label is invalid. so i tried rewriting the disk label using /usr/etc/disk and i get a Disk I/O error. that's it. i can't get it to spew out a more verbose error. my entire /usr/local/ hierarchy is on that disk, as well as all my /LocalApps LocalDeveloper etc crap is there. none of iit backed upl. abut 800 MB wort any ideas on how i can reclaim it? or am i horked? i'm currently on vacation so if any replies could also be sent to my e-mail address it'd be much appreciated. thanks andy -- ------------------ Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT or MIME mail OK ------------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - -------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu ----------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need advice on BNC connectors Date: 1 Jan 1997 11:23:22 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5adhfa$hdu@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: Reply-To: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber32.bordeaux.imaginet.fr In article Joseph McWilliams writes: > > I'm setting up a small network and will connect two NeXT 040 slabs using > Thinnet coax. Does the BNC T-adapter need to be F/M/F or F/F/F? Also > what resistance should the BNC terminators be, 50, 75, or 93 OHM? > > Thanks. > > Joe McWilliams > the BNC T-adapter is F/M/F the BNC terminators is 50 ohm. (actually 50*sqrt(-1) ohm since it is an impedance of 50 ohm, not a resistor) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.gwdg.de!news From: Stephan Trebels Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" original NeXT Monitor looses brightness Date: 01 Jan 1997 15:56:34 +0100 Organization: MPI biophysical Chemistry, Goettingen, DE Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 hi, after a while my 21" next color monitor has started to become darker every day. it's still usable, but starts to be annying. i heard about problems with monochrome monitors before, but didn't notice problems with the color ones. is this problem and/or a solution knwon to someone? thanks, stephan p.s. please cc: answers, i'll be glad to summarize. -- Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) Email: Stephan Trebels Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel: +49 551 201 1 454 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!dciteleport.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!malgudi.oar.net!news.csuohio.edu!usenet From: jabaker@grail.cba.csuohio.edu (jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: 01 Jan 1997 11:12:08 -0500 Organization: Cleveland State University Lines: 12 Sender: jason@jlbaker.async.csuohio.edu Message-ID: References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nk87$a7o@news.internetmci.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: porta17.async.csuohio.edu In-reply-to: JOSE_M@internetMCI.com's message of 24 Dec 1996 03:55:51 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.13 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:80300 comp.sys.newton.programmer:16116 comp.sys.next.advocacy:49476 comp.sys.next.hardware:26402 comp.sys.next.marketplace:15823 comp.sys.next.misc:24067 comp.sys.next.software:26964 comp.sys.palmtops:61941 comp.sys.pen:14499 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:13860 comp.sys.powerpc.tech:3752 comp.sys.sgi.admin:44764 comp.sys.sgi.apps:14654 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:18093 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:25967 comp.sys.sinclair:31727 comp.sys.sun.admin:82564 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43293 comp.sys.sun.misc:26439 comp.sys.sun.wanted:17988 comp.sys.tandy:14969 comp.text.frame:19294 comp.text.pdf:6378 comp.text.sgml:14597 comp.text.tex:83219 comp.unix.admin:49570 comp.unix.advocacy:35232 comp.unix.aix:83317 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35074 comp.unix.misc:24418 comp.unix.osf.osf1:19336 comp.unix.programmer:45371 comp.unix.questions:73044 comp.unix.sco.misc:33022 comp.unix.shell:37735 In article <59nk87$a7o@news.internetmci.com> JOSE_M@internetMCI.com writes: That message don't make any since..... all e-mail is text only... how can you hide a binary file in ascii format??? you can't unless that tag a file with a text and then you have to run i manualy...... Can't you see that that you yourself are propagating this internet message virus which has already infected 35 newsgroups? Jason #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hamblin.math.byu.edu!usenet From: "Anthony C. Olsen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix 6x86 - P150+ for SALE Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 10:25:47 -0700 Organization: Brigham Young University Lines: 31 Message-ID: <32CA9E1B.2818@cs.byu.edu> Reply-To: olsena@cs.byu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: seashell.cs.byu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) I'm selling my IBM computer. Here are the specs: Cyrix 6x86 P150+ 1024x768 - 14" monitor (nice model) 8x CDROM 1.2 GB harddrive Video accelerator card 16-bit sound card w/ speakers 14.4 Date/Fax/Voice Modem (keyboard, mouse, mousepad (older), 3.5" floopy drive) Windows95 All brand new (3 months old) $1500 O.B.O. You can call me at (801) 373-6180, or e-mail me at my address below Tony Olsen Provo City, Utah, USA -- Anthony C. Olsen (Tony) mailto:olsena@cs.byu.edu NEW!! Check out my allias e-mail address!! =) mailto:ferris@myself.com http://students.cs.byu.edu/~olsena/index.html "God lives! The Book of Mormon is true!" http://spock.et.byu.edu/~mcakir/bom.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 1 Jan 97 10:45:03 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: port-7-29.access.one.net In-reply-to: lavalle@nwlink.com's message of Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:31:36 -0800 In article , lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) writes: How does OpenStep on a Pentium (say... P120) compare to NEXTSTEP on a Turbo slab? I got a turbo mono slab about three months ago, and an Intel P133 machine about two months ago, so I'll bite ... Is it 4 times as fast? No good answer to this. "Maybe"? For some things, yes, it is four times as fast. The P133 is 200 "MIPS" versus 24 "MIPS", both as tested by NXBench 2.2. OTOH, the NXFactor2.2 (graphics) is 3.4 vs 1.7, so it's only twice as fast there. Admittedly, the mono machine is only pushing two bpp, the P133 is pushing 16 bpp. Another, more important (for me) benchmark was the compile time for BackSpace. It was 2:35 on the Turbo, and it's :50 on the P133. This is probably partially due to memory size (P133 has 64M, NeXT Turbo has 48M), and partially due to SCSI speed (NeXT machines are _old_). Is it worth it to get a Black machine vs an Intel? Define "worth it". The P133 was $2500, w/17" monitor (and _without_ NeXTSTEP), while the NeXT turbo slab was $600 or so, with 16M of RAM and a 250M hard drive. I still use the slab quite a bit, because it's got a sharper screen (mono, right?), and the keyboard and mouse are somewhat nicer. It works fine as an email/news server/reader. My goal is to get into NEXTSTEP or OpenStep software development. NeXTSTEP is fine, but OpenStep gets pretty doggy on this machine. Don't get me wrong - you can go ahead and work on it, it just depends on whether you value time more or money more. OTOH, I'm referring to _development_. If you're coming into NeXTSTEP afresh, well, you probably won't have to spend much time waiting for large programs to compile! For learning, a turbo slab would probably last you six to nine months. In that light, the much lower entrance cost of the turbo slab is pretty attractive. If, after six months, you decide you don't want to develop for NS/OS, well, then it's not outrageously expensive for a high-resolution news/mail reader :-). Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Message-ID: <32CAB150.1C44@ebs.ac.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 12:47:44 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer Reply-To: ulmerer@ebs.ac.com Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen/BBN X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White References: <5ad0qj$k8e@news.digifix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.1.200.116 Lines: 29 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!usamrid.isd.net!207.1.200.116 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26405 comp.sys.next.software:26966 comp.sys.next.advocacy:49509 Scott Anguish wrote: > > On 12/31/96, "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > >Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black > >and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences > >between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. > > > > While I don't have any hard data to provide, the 133MHz Pentium that > I'm currently working on is noticibly faster than the 040 Turbo Slab that I > have been using for the past few years. > > I wish I was able to run it on the Pentium Pro 200 sitting next to > it (alas, it is serving other duties). :-) > > > > -- > Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS > sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com I did a little research on the 68040 speed and looked at various sites which published SpecMarks on various hardware platforms, and Just CPU alone the 68040 ranks about even with a 486/66. The NeXT runs a different/faster bus than the PC, however. But even So, I would suspect on most things you'll be running 2X+ on the Pentium. Several people at work questioned why I recently bought an 040 box when I already have a Dual P133 system, as they run NS on Intel. My response "Because I always wanted one, and they're cool" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: "Eren Kotan" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White Date: 1 Jan 1997 19:26:37 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 30 Message-ID: <01bbf81b$3990d8a0$102c1281@demoroom> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: demoroom.next.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26406 comp.sys.next.software:26967 comp.sys.next.advocacy:49524 Mitchell Allen wrote in article ... > Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black > and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences > between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. Well, I use both platforms here at work, and home; not surprising, really ;-} Generally speaking, black hardware is slower but very stable, white hardware can be extremely fast but unless you put it together carefully, with supported devices, and high quality components, they can be rather unstable. If money is not tight, you can put together an excellent PC which will outperform black boxes and be (nearly) as stable. What did you want to know, specifically? Compile speed? Graphics performance? IO? Let me know. Regards, Eren --- Eren Kotan - Eren_Kotan@next.com NeXT Software UK Limited ObjectLine Support #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!news.goldengate.net!not-for-mail From: Matt Jurcich Subject: Hard drives in stations Message-ID: <32CB5A3B.649C@invisix.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 00:48:27 -0600 Reply-To: mattj@invisix.com Organization: Invisix X-Sender: Matt Jurcich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 18 Hey there, The NeXT FAQ talks a bit about hard drives in black hardware (http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.081.html) and states a few drives that don't work. They talk a little about what to look for in a drive, but I would like to know if anyone can give me brand/model of some drives that they know work in a turbo color station. I'm looking to put in a 1gb or 2gb drive into my station. Any thoughts from someone who's recently upgraded would be appreciated! Thanks. -- What do you call a room full of Macintosh computers? An Apple orchard. THE NETWORK IS THE COMPUTER. (C) Sun Microsystems. http://www.invisix.com ... NeXT, Silicon Graphics and Stuff #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!voskovec.radio.cz!news.msfc.nasa.gov!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: jabaker@grail.cba.csuohio.edu (jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 1 Jan 1997 22:11:56 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5aenfc$7jr@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: pitts.eng.sun.com This article canceled. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!voskovec.radio.cz!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!nntp.crl.com!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need advice on BNC connectors Date: 2 Jan 1997 00:21:52 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Lines: 45 Message-ID: <5aev30$o6a@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: fsc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca In article , Joseph McWilliams wrote: > >I'm setting up a small network and will connect two NeXT 040 slabs using >Thinnet coax. Does the BNC T-adapter need to be F/M/F or F/F/F? Also >what resistance should the BNC terminators be, 50, 75, or 93 OHM? > >Thanks. > >Joe McWilliams > > On my network (Cube plus station) I found I needed 50 ohm cable, 50 ohm terminators (one each end, attached to the unused end of the T connector for the two machines that sit at either end of the cable -- in my case I only had the two machines to worry about, but if you have more, machines in the middle will have Ts with both ends cabled), and the T connector is M/F/M, i.e. the cross bars of the T have no rotating collars, and the middle off-shoot has a rotating collar. Figure out the total length you need between any given pair of machines, add some spare (you may want to move a machine) and get the place you buy the cable from to put the needed female ends on the cable for you. Saves you having to use potentially unreliable non-crimping cable ends. The cable impedance is important. The whole point of the cabling, connectors, and attached electronics is to maintain a uniform impedance to avoid reflections within the system (which are the cause of noise and problems). Mine fired up first time and has run perfectly since. Remember, no more than 30 computers, maximum cable length 185 metres total (extend using up to 4 repeaters). Good luck. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!netcom.com!erotandi From: erotandi@netcom.com (Edhi Rotandi) Subject: SCSI hard drive for the black box Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 00:39:04 GMT Lines: 13 Sender: erotandi@netcom.netcom.com Hi, I am a new black box user and I recently got a black box without any harddrive. (Color Turbo station.) I was wondering what kind of hard drive can be used? I've been trying to get a Fujitsu 1606 (non active terminated) 1 gig hard scsi II hard drive and NeXTSTEP does not seem to like it: It's complaining that initialization failed. Do you need to terminate the internal hardrive? Thanks... Edhi #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.fast.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.111.1.35!news.shentel.net!eb3ppp22.shentel.net!user From: gdavis@shentel.net (Greg Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT-Midi Interface Date: 2 Jan 1997 01:04:27 GMT Organization: Fighter Grafix Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: eb3ppp22.shentel.net Does anyone know what hardware is available to connect black hardware to a MIDI box? I'm sure there is such a beast with all the DSP capabilities of the black box, but don't quite know where to go for it. Any info would be appreciated. Gregor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!news From: Rainer Frohnhöfer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 2 Jan 1997 09:11:43 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5afu4f$ump@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5afd2l$ssg@news.duke.edu> Reply-To: rainer@wmax60.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Frankly, if you want to do development under OPENSTEP 4.x : Get a white box with loads of Memory (64+). I'm using a 25MHz slab and while I love this machine, its age shows when doing CPU-intensive stuff like compiling. And the OpenStep framework - in its current implementation - is a real hog. Second point: The SCSI interface of the black boxes is pretty slow - I never got beyond 800 K/s, the Turbos are about 1.1 M/s. I got a Pentium 166 on this desk with a NCR 810 chip that delivers > 3.3 M/s. A up-to-date Intel box feels better in terms of response time. This doesn't hold for NEXTSTEP 3.3, it started to show with the OpenStep frameworks and the new Project and Interface Builder. And no, I wouldn't give my slab away for anything in the world. Perfect machine. Just my DM 0.02 -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger cip@mathematik for public key ...) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Painfully Slow Text Scrolling in ROM Monitor on ND Turbo Cube Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 2 Jan 1997 03:35:49 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5afvhl$bln@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pesto.cs.utexas.edu Ident-User: liuyi Summary: Slow Text Scrolling Prob. in ROM Monitor on ND Turbo Cube Keywords: Text Scrolling, ND, Cube, Turbo Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:24095 comp.sys.next.hardware:26413 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24725 [ Crosspost: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,] [ comp.sys.next.sysadmin ] [ Followup: comp.sys.next.misc ] I recently got a ND Turbo Cube. It runs everything perfectly except for this problem: Problem: When booting in verbose mode, the text scrolls very slowly line-by-line from bottom to top, kind of like watching a terminal connected via 2400 baud modem, but felt a lot slower and a lot more annoying. HW + SW: 040 33MHz ND Cube, 32MB on ND, 32MB on 040, all simms non-parity 70ns, running NS3.3, 1 200MB boot + 1 3.2GB HDs. I'd never owned a ND Turbo Cube or any Color motorola hardware before. But compared to my 040 33MHz slab whose ROM monitor scrolls text fast and smoothly --- jump scroll (?), the ND Turbo Cube's text scroll is more like a snail scroll. I tried playing with "p" command in the ROM monitor, but short of switching off the "verbose" mode, nothing seems to affect this behavior. On top of this, everything else runs fine with visually comparable speed to the Turbo slab once the machine boots up. So my question: Is this a normal behavior in the ROM monitor on the ND Turbo Cube? Thanks! liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi | Dallas, TX #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ix.netcom.com!nyc-ny11-17.ix.netcom.com!user From: mthomas7@ix.netcom.com (Michael Thomas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Useful software, mono/color Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 21:24:41 -0500 Organization: Netcom Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nyc-ny11-17.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jan 01 6:19:27 PM PST 1997 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26414 comp.sys.next.misc:24096 comp.sys.next.software:26982 In article , jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) wrote: > I'm thinking of getting a NeXTstation, and would like to know what kind of > apps are out there that can make it a useful machine to me(as opposed to a > beautiful example of industrial design sitting on my desk). > > The categories of software in which I am interested: > > DTP (something like Quark, maybe?) > all sorts of graphics (mostly bitmapped, little vector) including 3D > CAD/something like formZ > webdesign > light web/mailserver software? > and of course internet surfing (mail, newsgroups, www). > > Are there any notable apps in these categories? Especially shareware, of > course. And a way to transfer files to/from a Mac. > > > Also, please note whether any such apps would want color. I'd need to > justify a color NeXTstation (I'm leaning toward mono). > > Sorry if this asks for a lot of info, but I'd appreciate it greatly. > > thanks > john > > --- - ------- ------- > Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. - Beethoven > > jak@asu.edu > http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ John, For DTP track down a copy of Aldus Virtuoso (preferably v 2, AKA "Virtuoso Gold). It's Freehand 4 for NeXT and will export files as Freehand 3, various Illustrator formats and I forget what else for the Mac. Plus, it'll let you see all those Postscript effects you have to take on faith with a Mac. One thing to remember: NeXT (or at least the scanner I used) saves its TIFF scans in a Windows flavor. If you try to use them in a Mac, open them from within Photoshop and save as Mac TIFFs. For retouch, WetPaint could show Photoshop a few things about interface design, though it lacks a "magic wand". I hear good things about Tiffany, too. Omniweb from Lighthouse Design is a nice Netscape browser for NeXT. As for hardware, you might really consider a more modern Pentium running NeXTstep. Plain wrapper, but same soul. And a ton faster since the old color blackware equals a Quadra 9-something. Mike Thomas (Mac 7500 and NeXT Turbo Color station) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.csu.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!news1.best.com!idiom.com!idiom.com!jcr From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need help with a Toshiba Satellite 420cdt Date: 1 Jan 1997 19:03:52 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com Summary: Can I do this at all? Gentlemen, I have been issued a Toshiba laptop by my employer, and I can't seem to get NEXTSTEP to recognize its internal CD drive for an install. The machine is a Toshiba Satellite 420cdt, with 24Mb RAM, and a 1.2 gig disk. It's currently running windoze, which I want to banish to a games-only partition. So, does anyone know a way to get NEXTSTEP installed in this machine? Thanks, -jcr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!usenet From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 1 Jan 1997 23:20:37 -0500 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Lines: 71 Message-ID: <5afd2l$ssg@news.duke.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bio2.acpub.duke.edu Below are benchmark results for NEXTSTEP 3.3 running on a variety of different platforms. A Pentium Pro 200 MHz machine is about 20 times as fast as a 25 MHz NeXT machine for basic processing. On graphics performance (NXBench), Pentium machines do not exceed 3 times the performance of NeXT 25MHz, while Pentium Pro machines can be optimized for up to 8 x, so I've heard. -- Lee Altenberg altenber@acpub.duke.edu Smaller numbers are better: ============================================================================= sec/iteration | relative to HP 712/60 small medium large vlarge | small medium large vlarge ----- ------ ----- ------ | ----- ------ ----- ------ NeXT 040-25 1.19 8.94 85.55 260.67 | 9.56 8.70 4.01 3.22 ============================================================================= Pentium Pro 200 MHz 0.07 0.49 4.80 13.08 | 0.56 0.48 0.23 0.16 ============================================================================= Micron P100 Millenia (32MB RAM): 0.13 1.02 13.35 42.63 | 1.08 0.99 0.63 0.53 ============================================================================= Micron Millenia P133 Plus (32MB RAM) 0.11 0.82 11.22 36.83 | 0.87 0.79 0.53 0.45 ============================================================================= Gateway2000 486/DX2 (32MB RAM): 0.55 4.21 41.80 117.70 | 4.46 4.09 1.96 1.45 ============================================================================= P5-90 (Intel motherboard, 72MB RAM) 0.17 1.28 17.58 55.28 | 1.34 1.24 0.82 0.68 ============================================================================= HP 712/60 0.12 1.04 21.38 82.55 | 1.01 1.01 1.00 1.02 ============================================================================= HP 712/80 (64MB RAM) 0.09 0.73 15.80 61.75 | 0.75 0.71 0.74 0.76 ============================================================================= SUN SparcStation 5 (64MB RAM) 0.16 1.30 18.38 56.13 | 1.31 1.26 0.86 0.69 ============================================================================= Non-NEXTSTEP UNIX: ============================================================================= IBM RS/6000: 0.12 0.93 7.57 21.65 | 0.99 0.90 0.35 0.27 ============================================================================= IBM SP2 Node: 0.12 0.94 7.90 23.30 | 0.98 0.92 0.37 0.29 ============================================================================= DEC Alpha DEC3000 - M400 (256MB RAM): 0.13 0.94 11.83 37.37 | 1.04 0.91 0.55 0.46 ============================================================================= SGI R4000-50/100 0.23 1.83 22.22 78.40 | 1.87 1.78 1.04 0.97 ============================================================================= Benchmark program by Phillip Tokumaru Research Associate/Engineer Department of Aerospace Engineering University of Southern California ptok@cave.usc.edu This benchmark computes the potential-flow pressure distribution on a Sphere using the axisymmetric panel method of Smith and Hess. Floating point type is double. The program was run under NEXTSTEP 3.3 with optimizations -O -O2 -funroll-loops are given below: It is mainly a CPU/Memory system benchmark. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!berlin.snafu.de!spamcancel!cyberspam From: help@spry.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Control: cancel <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 12:41:17 +0100 Organization: Self Help Corp Lines: 3 Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de Message-ID: References: <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantic.fb12.tu-berlin.de X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: Yes EMP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. The Breidbart index was 494. See report "totalmarketing" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: FREE EDUCATIONAL VIDEO/CDs. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.unixware.a Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!news.tip.nl!news From: "Bitstream" Subject: REQ: reg code for in-cube for win95 (voice recognition) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: amsterdamis30.pop.tip.nl Message-ID: <01bbe833$a65b5480$1ed2b18f@t819096> Sender: news@tip.nl (The News User) Organization: The Internet Plaza X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:03:05 GMT Lines: 1 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:22255 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:59237 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:22943 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:16085 comp.sys.next.hardware:26417 comp.sys.next.software:26992 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:25978 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43306 plaese mail to : m.jorna@tip.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.tc.umn.edu!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!usenet From: brataas@sn.no (John Brataas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:04:03 GMT Organization: SOUND-tec Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ns.falch.no X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:80357 comp.sys.newton.programmer:16123 comp.sys.next.advocacy:49835 comp.sys.next.hardware:26418 comp.sys.next.marketplace:15834 comp.sys.next.misc:24112 comp.sys.next.software:26993 comp.sys.palmtops:62003 comp.sys.pen:14510 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:13904 comp.sys.powerpc.tech:3757 comp.sys.sgi.admin:44781 comp.sys.sgi.apps:14661 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:18098 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:25979 comp.sys.sinclair:31749 comp.sys.sun.admin:82593 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43307 comp.sys.sun.misc:26452 comp.sys.sun.wanted:17999 comp.sys.tandy:14979 comp.text.frame:19304 comp.text.pdf:6392 comp.text.sgml:14600 comp.text.tex:83257 comp.unix.admin:49635 comp.unix.advocacy:35318 comp.unix.aix:83333 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35111 comp.unix.misc:24429 comp.unix.osf.osf1:19343 comp.unix.programmer:45385 comp.unix.questions:73096 comp.unix.sco.misc:33061 comp.unix.shell:37767 battleaxe@cwc.lsu.edu (Scott Hoppe) wrote: > >In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) > wrote: > >>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded > >>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM > >> > >>Subject: Virus Alert > >>Importance: High > >> > >>If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL > >>GREETINGS! ; please delete it > >>WITHOUT reading it. > In article <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net>, mtm@insync.net says... > > > >What is this? Another "Good Time's Virus" scare? This is crazy. Email can't > >contain a virus. Maybe a binary attachment, but then you have to actually > run > >it. Someday these people will learn.... > > > They completely missed the joke this time, because the original poster didn't > use the Subject: 'PENPAL GREETINGS!'. "Don't read the messages sendt to you by the obnoxious persons johnb@falch.no and janr@falch.no. If you open this message on a Windows PC you will enable a virus that force you to type "I will rather use a Macintosh" once evey 5 minutes. If you don't follow theese instructions the virus will spinn up you CD or floppy to 95.000 rpm. and slice your PC into two halfs. Forward this info to everyone you know - even your mother in law" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need help with networking and Zip Date: 2 Jan 1997 15:30:14 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19970102152800.KAA14663@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Two questions: 1) can I network my NeXTstation to my Power Mac 6100 to share my HP Deskwriter 550C? If so, how? 2) can I use my Mac's Zip drive to back up my NeXT running NEXTSTEP 3.0? is any special driver software needed? also, can the NeXT be booted from a Zip? If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it. J. Gidi #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Can I put a 3.5" full-height drive into a Turbo Color Station? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:16:18 GMT Lines: 15 In article <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) writes: > Hello all, > > Can I install a full-height hard drive (3.5") into a Turbo slab? I would > appreciate if some one could fill me in on this soon... > The only concern is heat. Anything that approaches 15W might become a problem and needs careful monitoring. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:21:43 GMT Lines: 17 In article jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) writes: > If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it > possible to print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up > to the NeXTstation? Or is there any other way to get from the > Mac to the NeXT printer? > Anything that conforms to the section on "Mixed Networks" in the online sysadmin manual will work. This translates to the fact that you will have to get Internet remote print capabilities for your Mac. Aquiring "Partners" from IPT to make NEXTSTEP AplleTalk aware has no good price/performance ratio, IMHO. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!EU.net!Belgium.EU.net!news From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help:nextstep 1.0a and 3 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 04:14:06 GMT Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5ah1ok$r5b@news1.Belgium.EU.net> Reply-To: Arnold.Creten@ping.be NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup132.leuven.eunet.be X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Help.. help I have a nextcomputer 68030 25mhz 16 mb, harddrive and optical, nextstep 1.0a and it works...(one of the 1 in Belgium back in 89 - collecting (old and (special(!)) computers I acquired it a few months ago....) Now I received Nextstep 3.0 on cd rom and cd rom utilitys on floppy. How to proceed to use NeXTstep 3.0 from cd.rom?? A compatible cd rom drive will not be the problem but 1.0a can not read a cedrom! and witch floppydrive is compatible with my machine? Help! a novice in this field..:-)) o, yeh, a happy new year for all! Arnold.Creten@ping.be #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT-Midi Interface Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 06:35:34 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 19 Message-ID: <32CC2A10.51B5@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.147 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Greg Davis wrote: > > Does anyone know what hardware is available to connect black hardware to a > MIDI box? I'm sure there is such a beast with all the DSP capabilities of > the black box, but don't quite know where to go for it. Any info would > be appreciated. > > Gregor Check out following web-site: http://www.rcn.de/English/NeXT/MidiInterface.html YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board written by Korean) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 20 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:48:09 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26424 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24734 hi all... My SO and I are considering buying a laserprinter (NEC 5i) for the house, which would be connected to my mono black slab, which serves as a PPP network gateway/router/firewall/mailserver. I've checked everywhere, but the only discussion about adding non-NeXT printers to a slab has to do with rewiring a serial connector. Is it possible to add a non-NeXT printer to a black slab? What should I ask for in the way of accessories when I purchase this beastie? Do I need a parallel-serial converter, and the serial connector hack in the FAQ? Do I need something else? What do I have to do on the software side of things? We're both very excited, as this will be our first in-home laser printer, but I'm a bit concerned, since getting the thing connected to my slab is a big grey fog for me right now. Could someone clarify? Thanks, Mark -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!insync!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!news.mid.net!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? Date: 2 Jan 1997 23:05:12 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: mathlab44.unl.edu In article <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." writes: > Hi folks, > > Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell > Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware > compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? Primarily, the video card is the biggest compatibility concern. Make sure the brand/model used by Dell is compatible. Most other items on a standard PC these days are ok: EIDE drives, ATAPI CDROM. Networking is another concern, if you're on a network, then of course, you'll need to know it's brand/model too. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:28:17 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Lines: 35 Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk In article shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > In article , > lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) writes: > How does OpenStep on a Pentium (say... P120) compare to NEXTSTEP on > a Turbo slab? > > Is it worth it to get a Black machine vs an Intel? > > Define "worth it". The P133 was $2500, w/17" monitor (and _without_ > NeXTSTEP), while the NeXT turbo slab was $600 or so, with 16M of RAM > and a 250M hard drive. I still use the slab quite a bit, because it's > got a sharper screen (mono, right?), and the keyboard and mouse are > somewhat nicer. It works fine as an email/news server/reader. I agree with everytihng Scott says... I wouldn't like to work on a major project on Black hardware (hence I have a big pentium at work), but the Black hardware is just nicer, and easier to setup/use, so thats why I have at home (the price helps too!). My Black machine will probably outlast my PC - Quality lasts, performance doesn't. If you're looking to "get into" NeXT development then the Black machines are a bargin, and will remain viable as desktop machines for some time. Put the PC in the cupboard under the stairs, and access it remotely from something that looks nice! Mac users will find the Black machines "just work". Hacking together a good PC is possible, but setting up a good Black machine involves plugging it in. > large programs to compile! For learning, a turbo slab would probably > last you six to nine months. And in 6-9 months Apple may be shipping something good! $an #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!mfs-annex1-p33.dsphere.net!user From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Date: 2 Jan 1997 21:53:38 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p33.dsphere.net >> If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it >> possible to print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up >> to the NeXTstation? Or is there any other way to get from the >> Mac to the NeXT printer? This is extremely difficult. You can, however, print to a postscript file, ftp the file to the next, and print it from there... Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.cc.uic.edu!doc.pmad.uic.edu!lambertb From: "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? Date: 2 Jan 1997 21:45:56 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: doc.pmad.uic.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.4_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:45:23 GMT Hi folks, Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? Thanks in advance. -bruce Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D. Department of Pharmacy Administration University of Illinois at Chicago lambertb@uic.edu http://ludwig.pmad.uic.edu/~bruce/ Phone: +1 (312) 996-2411 Fax: +1 (312) 996-0868 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.dra.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.fast.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701021410.GAA25426@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: a2ed41369e909a818582b79e43163fa4 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 2 Jan 97 09:10:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Hard drives in stations Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: a2ed41369e909a818582b79e43163fa4 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 22 Responding To: Matt Jurcich Original Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 00:48:27 -0600 > The NeXT FAQ talks a bit about hard drives in black hardware > (http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.081.html) and states a few > drives that don't work. They talk a little about what to look for > in a drive, but I would like to know if anyone can give me > brand/model of some drives that they know work in a turbo color > station. I'm looking to put in a 1gb or 2gb drive into my station. send me an email with the SUBJECT send-ascii scsi-for-black for a not-complete list TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.tc.umn.edu!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!cdc2.cdc.net!news.texas.net!portm-1-246 From: jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 01:15:58 GMT Organization: RHAHMM Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5ahmgp$73c@news3.texas.net> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <59s88u$63f@buffnet2.buffnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: portm-1-246.intrepid.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:80395 comp.sys.newton.programmer:16133 comp.sys.next.advocacy:50034 comp.sys.next.hardware:26430 comp.sys.next.marketplace:15843 comp.sys.next.misc:24134 comp.sys.next.software:27012 comp.sys.palmtops:62050 comp.sys.pen:14516 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:13946 comp.sys.powerpc.tech:3762 comp.sys.sgi.admin:44794 comp.sys.sgi.apps:14664 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:18100 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:25990 comp.sys.sinclair:31777 comp.sys.sun.admin:82631 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43318 comp.sys.sun.misc:26462 comp.sys.sun.wanted:18010 comp.sys.tandy:14987 comp.text.frame:19313 comp.text.pdf:6401 comp.text.sgml:14603 comp.text.tex:83302 comp.unix.admin:49670 comp.unix.advocacy:35371 comp.unix.aix:83373 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35154 comp.unix.misc:24434 comp.unix.osf.osf1:19351 comp.unix.programmer:45399 comp.unix.questions:73125 comp.unix.sco.misc:33109 comp.unix.shell:37784 In article <59s88u$63f@buffnet2.buffnet.net>, rwcrosby@buffnet.net (Rik Crosby) wrote: >Ya know, if I remember correctly, thi seems to be the EXACT same warning that >was floating around with Good Times. > >In article <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net>, mtm@insync.net says... >> >>What is this? Another "Good Time's Virus" scare? This is crazy. Email can't >>contain a virus. Maybe a binary attachment, but then you have to actually run >>it. Someday these people will learn.... >> >>In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) wrote: >>>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded >>>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM >>> >>>Subject: Virus Alert [snip] I apologize for the virus alert post, which I have canceled. It was stupid of me to post it without checking it out first. -- John #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 3 Jan 1997 03:23:16 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5ahu34$1fu8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <01bbf81b$3990d8a0$102c1281@demoroom> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26431 comp.sys.next.software:27017 comp.sys.next.advocacy:50087 Eren Kotan (Eren_Kotan@next.com) wrote: : What did you want to know, specifically? Compile speed? Graphics : performance? IO? : Let me know. I am curious how well a Pentium compares against the DSP on Black hardware? And does most/all audio software use the DSP? Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114@cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Message-ID: <32CC76E0.1F6D@ebs.ac.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 21:02:56 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer Reply-To: ulmerer@ebs.ac.com Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen/BBN X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New NeXT WWW page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.1.203.55 Lines: 8 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!sn.no!news-stkh.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!news-out.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!usamrid.isd.net!207.1.203.55 Check out www.isd.net/eulmer I've gathered together a lot of links in this page. Mostly mega-surfing and stealing links. Comments welcome. -Eric #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-hk.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.glink.net.hk!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 00:16:06 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 In article , Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de wrote: > In article jak@asu.edu (John > Kestner) writes: > > If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it > > possible to print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up > > to the NeXTstation? Or is there any other way to get from the > > Mac to the NeXT printer? > > > Anything that conforms to the section on "Mixed Networks" in the online > sysadmin manual will work. This translates to the fact that you will have > to get Internet remote print capabilities for your Mac. Try the lpr application included in the lpDaemon package at the usual Mac archives. It is supposed to support Mac -> Unix spooler -> printer. (I have only used the NeXT -> Mac -> Laserwriter capability provided by lpDaemon, but that worked well.) Barney #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can I put a 3.5" full-height drive into a Turbo Color Station? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 00:23:05 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 In article , Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de wrote: > In article <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar > Ramanathan (CSI)) writes: > > Hello all, > > > > Can I install a full-height hard drive (3.5") into a Turbo slab? I would > > appreciate if some one could fill me in on this soon... > > > The only concern is heat. Anything that approaches 15W might become a > problem and needs careful monitoring. I've been using a Seagate Hawk for about a year now with no trouble, and it runs very hot. OTOH, its upper surface is pretty close to the slab's lid, which seems to provide a heat sink. You could add means for thermal transfer to the lid. (I've often though I should just glue a copper mesh ball in there.) Barney #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-stkh.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!eru.mt.luth.se!pumpkin.pangea.ca!news.mira.net.au!vic.news.telstra.net!sleipnir.iaccess.com.au!news From: Mark Sitkowski Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 22:54:47 +1100 Organization: D.S.S Lines: 38 Message-ID: <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: njordport3.iaccess.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4c) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:80411 comp.sys.newton.programmer:16137 comp.sys.next.advocacy:50231 comp.sys.next.hardware:26435 comp.sys.next.marketplace:15856 comp.sys.next.misc:24154 comp.sys.palmtops:62099 comp.sys.pen:14525 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:13975 comp.sys.powerpc.tech:3764 comp.sys.sgi.admin:44806 comp.sys.sgi.apps:14667 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:18102 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:26004 comp.sys.sinclair:31793 comp.sys.sun.admin:82654 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43328 comp.sys.sun.misc:26465 comp.sys.sun.wanted:18014 comp.sys.tandy:14990 comp.text.frame:19318 comp.text.pdf:6410 comp.text.sgml:14608 comp.text.tex:83331 comp.unix.admin:49690 comp.unix.advocacy:35412 comp.unix.aix:83388 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35184 comp.unix.misc:24440 comp.unix.osf.osf1:19355 comp.unix.programmer:45421 comp.unix.questions:73139 comp.unix.sco.misc:33134 comp.unix.shell:37788 John Brataas wrote: > > battleaxe@cwc.lsu.edu (Scott Hoppe) wrote: > > > >In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) > > wrote: > > >>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded > > >>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM > > >> > > >>Subject: Virus Alert > > >>Importance: High > > >> Do you know the name of this newsgroup? Did you see the word 'unix' anywhere? I thought after all this time, everyone in the world knew there was no such thing as a 'unix virus'. Obviously the news didn't reach you! > > "Don't read the messages sendt to you by the obnoxious persons > johnb@falch.no and janr@falch.no. If you open this message on a > Windows PC you will enable a virus that force you to type "I will > rather use a Macintosh" once evey 5 minutes. If you don't follow > theese instructions the virus will spinn up you CD or floppy to 95.000 > rpm. and slice your PC into two halfs. Forward this info to everyone > you know - even your mother in law" -- Best regards, Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Sitkowski Ц±È¿ÞºÃ! "In God we trust. All others pay cash..." 5 Bronaldi Street Heathmont Victoria 3135 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Home phone: (613-9) 729-0731 ¸øÎÒ´òµç»°! Home fax: (613-9) 720-1487 E-mail: marks@iaccess.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!Norway.EU.net!usenet From: brataas@sn.no (John Brataas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 12:22:12 GMT Organization: SOUND-tec Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5aitlp$jks@elle.eunet.no> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> NNTP-Posting-Host: ns.falch.no X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:80412 comp.sys.newton.programmer:16138 comp.sys.next.advocacy:50233 comp.sys.next.hardware:26436 comp.sys.next.marketplace:15857 comp.sys.next.misc:24155 comp.sys.palmtops:62100 comp.sys.pen:14526 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:13976 comp.sys.powerpc.tech:3765 comp.sys.sgi.admin:44807 comp.sys.sgi.apps:14668 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:18103 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:26006 comp.sys.sinclair:31794 comp.sys.sun.admin:82655 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43329 comp.sys.sun.misc:26466 comp.sys.sun.wanted:18015 comp.sys.tandy:14991 comp.text.frame:19319 comp.text.pdf:6411 comp.text.sgml:14609 comp.text.tex:83333 comp.unix.admin:49691 comp.unix.advocacy:35413 comp.unix.aix:83390 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35185 comp.unix.misc:24441 comp.unix.osf.osf1:19356 comp.unix.programmer:45422 comp.unix.questions:73141 comp.unix.sco.misc:33136 comp.unix.shell:37790 Mark Sitkowski wrote: > Do you know the name of this newsgroup? Did you see the word 'unix' > anywhere? > I thought after all this time, everyone in the world knew there was > no such thing as a 'unix virus'. Obviously the news didn't reach you! I was so sick about all the Virus Alert on the net so I had to do something :) The ultimate virus joke : ) John :) > > "Don't read the messages sendt to you by the obnoxious persons > > johnb@falch.no and janr@falch.no. If you open this message on a > > Windows PC you will enable a virus that force you to type "I will > > rather use a Macintosh" once evey 5 minutes. If you don't follow > > theese instructions the virus will spinn up you CD or floppy to 95.000 > > rpm. and slice your PC into two halfs. Forward this info to everyone > > you know - even your mother in law" > -- > Best regards, > Mark > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark Sitkowski Ц±È¿ÞºÃ! > "In God we trust. All others pay cash..." > 5 Bronaldi Street > Heathmont Victoria 3135 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Home phone: (613-9) 729-0731 ¸øÎÒ´òµç»°! > Home fax: (613-9) 720-1487 E-mail: marks@iaccess.com.au > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.dra.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!netcom.net.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:25:13 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Lines: 29 Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk In article fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu writes: > hi all... > > My SO and I are considering buying a laserprinter (NEC 5i) for the house, > which would be connected to my mono black slab, which serves as a PPP network > gateway/router/firewall/mailserver. I've checked everywhere, but the only > discussion about adding non-NeXT printers to a slab has to do with rewiring > a serial connector. > > Is it possible to add a non-NeXT printer to a black slab? Assuming it's postscript... Connect it to the serial port. Run printmanager. Select Add printer, and select the printer. Total doddle - took me five minutes to hook up an apple lasertwriter. If it's not listed you need to get the PPD file for your printer and add that (you might like to check this first to prevent painfull experiences). If your printer isn't postscript, then you need something like Dots. This is more complex, and I haven't done it so I won't comment. $an #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!phcoms4.seri.philips.nl!news From: Bob Hoekstra Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 14:34:04 +0100 Organization: Origin IT Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32CD0ACC.746@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-85-11.cft.philips.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:80418 comp.sys.newton.programmer:16139 comp.sys.next.advocacy:50248 comp.sys.next.hardware:26438 comp.sys.next.marketplace:15858 comp.sys.next.misc:24156 comp.sys.palmtops:62105 comp.sys.pen:14527 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:13978 comp.sys.powerpc.tech:3766 comp.sys.sgi.admin:44809 comp.sys.sgi.apps:14669 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:18105 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:26008 comp.sys.sinclair:31799 comp.sys.sun.admin:82659 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43330 comp.sys.sun.misc:26467 comp.sys.sun.wanted:18016 comp.sys.tandy:14993 comp.text.frame:19320 comp.text.pdf:6412 comp.text.sgml:14611 comp.text.tex:83335 comp.unix.admin:49694 comp.unix.advocacy:35416 comp.unix.aix:83392 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35187 comp.unix.misc:24444 comp.unix.osf.osf1:19357 comp.unix.programmer:45427 comp.unix.questions:73150 comp.unix.sco.misc:33148 comp.unix.shell:37795 Mark Sitkowski wrote: > ... > I thought after all this time, everyone in the world knew there was > no such thing as a 'unix virus'. Obviously the news didn't reach you! Not true. Refer http://www.cyber.com/papers/plausibility.html -- ----------------------------------------------------- Bob Hoekstra: Unix Consultant Return email: hoekstra_b@cft.philips.nl Home email: bob@khamsin.demon.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!compuserve.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: m555@ix.netcom.com (Mark Landin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: 3 Jan 1997 14:30:55 GMT Organization: not organized Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5aj56v$pur@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> NNTP-Posting-Host: tul-ok2-05.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jan 03 8:30:55 AM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:80424 comp.sys.newton.programmer:16140 comp.sys.next.advocacy:50263 comp.sys.next.hardware:26439 comp.sys.next.marketplace:15859 comp.sys.next.misc:24157 comp.sys.palmtops:62112 comp.sys.pen:14528 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:13982 comp.sys.powerpc.tech:3767 comp.sys.sgi.admin:44811 comp.sys.sgi.apps:14670 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:18106 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:26009 comp.sys.sinclair:31803 comp.sys.sun.admin:82660 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43331 comp.sys.sun.misc:26468 comp.sys.sun.wanted:18019 comp.sys.tandy:14994 comp.text.frame:19321 comp.text.pdf:6413 comp.text.sgml:14613 comp.text.tex:83338 comp.unix.admin:49699 comp.unix.advocacy:35422 comp.unix.aix:83397 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35188 comp.unix.misc:24446 comp.unix.osf.osf1:19359 comp.unix.programmer:45431 comp.unix.questions:73152 comp.unix.sco.misc:33151 comp.unix.shell:37798 In article <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU>, marks@iaccess.COM.AU says... > >I thought after all this time, everyone in the world knew there was >no such thing as a 'unix virus'. Except UNIX. :) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!phcoms4.seri.philips.nl!news From: Bob Hoekstra Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <32CD0ACC.746@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> Control: cancel <32CD0ACC.746@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 16:42:58 +0100 Organization: Philips Electronics N.V. Lines: 1 Message-ID: <32CD2902.7DC9@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> References: <32CD0ACC.746@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-85-11.cft.philips.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.io.com!fnord!news.fc.net!digdug.pswtech.com!usenet From: robin@pswtech.com (Robin Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? Date: 3 Jan 1997 15:54:11 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5aja33$att@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomp.pswtech.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: } In article <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." } writes: } > Hi folks, } > } > Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell } > Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware } > compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? } } Primarily, the video card is the biggest compatibility concern. Make sure } the brand/model used by Dell is compatible. Most other items on a standard } PC these days are ok: EIDE drives, ATAPI CDROM. Networking is another } concern, if you're on a network, then of course, you'll need to know it's } brand/model too. I have to disagree _slightly_... The NEC CDROMS used in some Dell systems have problems with NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. If you don't get the NEC CDROM, you are better off (I have tried it with the Mitsumi and the Sony and both of those work fine). We've also had good luck selling off the video cards and getting Matrox Millenium replacements (even make a few bucks in the process). -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!EU.net!sun4nl!Inter.NL.net!usenet From: "gerard" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Other operating system possible? Date: 3 Jan 1997 16:23:20 GMT Organization: saturn Lines: 3 Message-ID: <01bbf98a$0a7d2f80$5cff4fc1@gheijmen.inter.NL.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ldn51-1.leiden.nl.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Got a Cube doing nothing, could somebody tell me if I can load another operating system? Or should I dump the Cube? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!wesley.videotron.net!wagner.spc.videotron.ca!news From: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ADB esc sequence? Date: 3 Jan 1997 17:34:15 GMT Organization: SPC Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5ajfun$7nq@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem64.9bit.qc.ca X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26442 comp.sys.next.misc:24160 Hi there, What are the escape key combinations for ADB keayboards? ie: How do I access the NMI Mini-Monitor? How do I reset the hardware? Thanx -- Raymond Lutz, lutzray@9bit.qc.ca "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis" #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!uucp1.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp From: "Mike Farnsworth" Subject: Re: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: e815636.blv.boeing.com Message-ID: <01bbf958$93f86b30$a3ac2a82@e815636> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (NNTP News Access) Organization: The Boeing Company X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 References: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:29:44 GMT Lines: 35 I, too, am hoping to install on an XPS Pro 200. However, mine has a Matrox Millennium 4 MB, which I hear is good, and a SBAWE32Pnp. Of course, I've got to find a way to buy a copy of either NextStep 3.3 or Openstep 4.1 w/o pouring out $800 for the OS! Mike Farnsworth mfarns@gte.net Bellevue, Washington Rex Dieter wrote in article <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu>... > In article <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." > writes: > > Hi folks, > > > > Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell > > Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware > > compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? > > Primarily, the video card is the biggest compatibility concern. Make sure > the brand/model used by Dell is compatible. Most other items on a standard > PC these days are ok: EIDE drives, ATAPI CDROM. Networking is another > concern, if you're on a network, then of course, you'll need to know it's > brand/model too. > > -- > Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) > Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ > Mathematics and Statistics > University of Nebraska-Lincoln > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.itjit.ad.jp!news.ipro.ad.jp!netlaputa.or.jp!spinnews!spin-pp0-osk!spinosk!threeWeb-news!news.osk.threewebnet.or.jp!news.osk.threewebnet.or.jp!ici From: ici@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp (Toshinao Ishii) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax which modems? Date: 03 Jan 1997 14:50:20 GMT Organization: 3Web internet service Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppi017.osk.threewebnet.or.jp In-reply-to: dchan@dchan.earthlink.net's message of 28 Dec 1996 21:32:25 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:27039 comp.sys.next.hardware:26444 In article <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> dchan@dchan.earthlink.net (Derek Chan) writes: > I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has > to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics > V.Everything but, have heard that US Robitics modems don't work with NXFax (I > couldn't get a 28.8 USR Sportster to work but, maybe the V.Everything will > work). Can anyone recommend anything? Don't forget to use the latest serial driver with NXFax. In my case with Microcom V.34ESII, the old (came with CDROM) makes the system hang. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* $B@P0f=SD>(B Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!uucp4.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp From: "Mike Farnsworth" Subject: Re: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: e815636.blv.boeing.com Message-ID: <01bbf961$44c58580$a3ac2a82@e815636> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (NNTP News Access) Organization: The Boeing Company X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 References: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5aja33$att@digdug.pswtech.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:31:56 GMT Lines: 59 Robin- I've got an NEC 8x in mine... is this the problem model? Thanks Mike Farnsworth mfarns@gte.net Bellevue, Washington Robin Wilson wrote in article <5aja33$att@digdug.pswtech.com>... > rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: > } In article <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." > } writes: > } > Hi folks, > } > > } > Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell > } > Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware > } > compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? > } > } Primarily, the video card is the biggest compatibility concern. Make sure > } the brand/model used by Dell is compatible. Most other items on a standard > } PC these days are ok: EIDE drives, ATAPI CDROM. Networking is another > } concern, if you're on a network, then of course, you'll need to know it's > } brand/model too. > > I have to disagree _slightly_... The NEC CDROMS used in some Dell systems > have problems with NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. If you don't get the NEC CDROM, you > are better off (I have tried it with the Mitsumi and the Sony and both of > those work fine). > > We've also had good luck selling off the video cards and getting Matrox > Millenium replacements (even make a few bucks in the process). > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies > 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy > Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 > (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666 > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.bellglobal.com!thunder.mgl.ca!usenet From: Dave Johnston Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 14:41:33 -0500 Organization: IMMA Inc. Lines: 65 Message-ID: <32CD60EC.C7B@imma.org> Reply-To: djohnsto@imma.org NNTP-Posting-Host: imma3.imma.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------2A577F9F2A040" X-Sender: Dave Johnston (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) X-Priority: Normal ------------2A577F9F2A040 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all. I'm fairly new to the world of NeXT computing and need help on upgrading both the hardware and software on my system. I have been given a 68040 NeXTstation Turbo (I think) and would like to upgrade the RAM and disk in it. As well, I would like to get a CDROM for it so that I can take advantage of some of those compilation CDs floating around and upgrade the operating system. Can anyone point me in the right direction for obtaining the proper RAM/disk/CDROM equipment? Thanks in advance for your time and consideration Cheers Dave Johnston ------------2A577F9F2A040 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 Hello all.
 
I'm fairly new to the world of NeXT computing and need help on upgrading both the hardware and software on my system.
 
I have been given a 68040 NeXTstation Turbo (I think) and would like to upgrade the RAM and disk in it.  As well, I would like to get a CDROM for it so that I can take advantage of some of those compilation CDs floating around and upgrade the operating system.
 
Can anyone point me in the right direction for obtaining the proper RAM/disk/CDROM equipment?
 
Thanks in advance for your time and consideration
 
Cheers
 
Dave Johnston
------------2A577F9F2A040-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!diogenes From: trail@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel system hangs upon rebooting Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 20:31:52 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5ajq1t$p52@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gra-mi2-16.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jan 03 12:26:37 PM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 I have a VLB/EISA Pentium 66 system running NS 3.2 that I installed a Pentium Overdrive 133 cpu in. It seems to run fine, except that it hangs upon powerdown or rebooting, necessitating a complete fsck upon rebooting. Is there anything in particular I can look at to cure this problem ?? Thanks. Jeff Trestrail trail@ix.netcom.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!maze.dpo.uab.edu!NewsWatcher!user From: tan@neptune.cmc.uab.edu (Robert Tan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is the current Next hardware? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 15:19:02 -0600 Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham Lines: 26 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 138.26.45.218 First, I have visited the Next web site for answers to my question and I must say it is really difficult to navigate especially if you don't have too much time. (I also visited the Sun site which is much better but I still cannot find anwers to my questions.) So I hope some kind soul will help me out. 1. (In non-technical terms) what is the difference between Nextstep and Openstep and the difference between Nextstep on Mach and Openstep on Solaris or NT. 2. Are all the hardware on which Nextstep or Openstep are supported on equal standing? In other words would a Sparc user be locked out of certain features or programs that are available only on the Intel platform. Do software publishers always create binaries for Sparc, Intel and Motorola? Is HP no longer supported? 3. I am not clear about whether I can have an autonomous Next system or does NS or OS have to run on top of Solaris or NT. For example on an Intel system can I have NS without ever installing NT. 4. Is it possible to have MAE for Solaris running with Nextstep on a Sparc and therefore have something now that resembles the system that Apple is suppose to deliver in 1998? -- Robert K.-Z. Tan -- E-mail: tan@neptune.cmc.uab.edu -- Phone: (205)934-0580 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ajp8a$i8i@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Date: 3 Jan 1997 21:20:07 GMT Control: cancel <5ajp8a$i8i@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Message-ID: Sender: tccs@sprintmail.com X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 2 Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: CDRMEDIA Original Subject: CD-R Media for Sale #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: SCSI hard drive for the black box Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:39:28 GMT Lines: 26 In article erotandi@netcom.com (Edhi Rotandi) writes: > Hi, > I am a new black box user and I recently got a black box without > any harddrive. (Color Turbo station.) I was wondering what kind > of hard drive can be used? I've been trying to get a Fujitsu 1606 > (non active terminated) 1 gig hard scsi II hard drive and NeXTSTEP > does not seem to like it: > It's complaining that initialization failed. > > Do you need to terminate the internal hardrive? > Yes, of course! The SCSI port of the NeXt models never was terminated of their own. So, the inernal, and the last external device must be terminated. And all hard disks must support SCSI-1, asynch mode. SCSI-2 and/or synch mode will not work (at least not boot). If you got a properly configured drive everything is easy. Just switch on and follow the instructions that pop up on the console. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news.jsc.nasa.gov!pat!allman From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory for NeXTstation mono Date: 3 Jan 1997 21:16:15 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5ajsuv$djg@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.200.134.21 Quick check: it's 72 PIN non-EDO, right (e.g., 32MB 72 PIN 8X32-70)? Thanks. -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- "Retreat is _not_ an option." #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Problem with SCSI CD-ROM and HD X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 22 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:31:08 GMT Hi... As long as I'm ina posting mood, i thought I'd see if anyone knew a solution to this. I've got the following setup: NeXT mono black '040 25MHz with a 200 Meg internal HD (terminated), an NEC 3x external CD-rom, and a 1.06 Gig Conner HD external (terminated), such that the Conner is last in the chain, but prior to the CD-ROM w.r.t. SCSI ID. With the CD-ROM turned on, the NeXT refuses to recognize the Conner (A lot of front and back porch errors). I'd like to fix this, but would rather not spring for yet another SCSI-II -> 50-pin or centronics cable. Is this the only solution, or am I just missing something? Thanks, Mark -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Memory for NeXTstation mono In-Reply-To: allman@pat.mdc.com's message of 3 Jan 1997 21:16:15 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 17 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 References: <5ajsuv$djg@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:38:08 GMT allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) said: > > Quick check: it's 72 PIN non-EDO, right (e.g., 32MB 72 PIN 8X32-70)? > > Thanks. > > -- Mark Allman > -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com > -- "Retreat is _not_ an option." If it's non-turbo black slab-esque, it's 30-pin, 70ns or slower, in groups of four 1 or 4 meg, 1x8,1x9,4x8, or 4x9 SIMMs. And they're damned hard to come by (the 4 meggers) at decent prices (i.e., $30/stick or less). Nota bene: THREE CHIP, 4 MEG SIMMS WILL *NOT* WORK! -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.180.230.3!cygnus.com!usenet From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the current Next hardware? Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:39:00 GMT Organization: Cygnus Support Lines: 134 Message-ID: <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: Reply-To: jrudd@cygnus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: arcadia.cygnus.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(s) Cc: tan@neptune.cmc.uab.edu In Robert Tan wrote: > First, I have visited the Next web site for answers to my question and I > must say it is really difficult to navigate especially if you don't have > too much time. (I also visited the Sun site which is much better but I > still cannot find anwers to my questions.) So I hope some kind soul will > help me out. > > 1. (In non-technical terms) what is the difference between Nextstep and > Openstep and the difference between Nextstep on Mach and Openstep on > Solaris or NT. > Unfortunately, you're asking non-trivial questions :-) Nextstep was, originally (back when the Cube was first released) just a reference to the NeXT GUI (and all of its pieces, like the development environment, etc). When the port was made to Intel, Nextstep became a reference to the whole distribution of software -- The kernel, OS, GUI, development environment and tools, included user tools, etc. The Nextstep kernel is Mach 2.5 with NeXT's extensions. The Nextstep OS is BSD 4.3, with 4.4 and NeXT extensions. Nextstep uses a DPS based display model, Objective C based GUI libraries, applications and tools. The Developers libraries and tools are/were rather Nextstep specific.. with all of the threads objects being in the Mach kit, and several issues being BSD or Mach specific. "Openstep" refers to the shift in the programming model to being less Nextstep specific. This allowed the programming environment to be ported to other operating systems. Thus "Openstep for Solaris" is the Nextstep programming environment (and some of the user environement -- window manager, mail, preferences, and editor) running on the Solaris OS and X/DPS display model. "Openstep for Mach" is just the renaming of Nextstep, with the new abstracted programming model in place -- so now, instead of using Mach threads, you use Openstep threads (which hide/abstract the mach threads on Openstep for Mach, but on Openstep for Solaris, they hide/abstract a Solaris based threading mechanism). Openstep is a complete programming model that allows you to do everything used to under Nextsteps programming model, but without depending on the specific operating system and kernel. Hence, there is also an Openstep for Windows NT (and later in 97, a version for Win 95 is planned). Source code is supposed to be 100% compatable between all 3 Openstep platforms (Mach, Solaris, NT), as long as you stick to Openstep mechanisms and libraries (start making NT specific library calls, and you're no longer portable..but you still get the Openstep environment bennefits for your NT project). Openstep requires a DPS display mechanism.. for NT they created one to run on top of the NT display. For Solaris, Openwindows already supported DPS. If that's not non-technical enough... Openstep is the Programming Model, Nextstep is the old name for the OS + Programming Model + User Interface. "Openstep for Mach" is the new name for Nextstep. Openstep for Solaris is the progarmming model and base of the User Interface running on Solaris's Operating System. Openstep for NT is the programming model running on NT's OS and UI (yes, it uses the NT native user interface). > 2. Are all the hardware on which Nextstep or Openstep are supported on > equal standing? In other words would a Sparc user be locked out of certain > features or programs that are available only on the Intel platform. Do > software publishers always create binaries for Sparc, Intel and Motorola? > Is HP no longer supported? > HP is no longer supported. The OS itself is complete between all of the ports. If your system has a sound board, it uses it exactly the same way it would on another hardware platform (the simple beep speaker on a PC doesn't count.. nor does the one on a Sparc 4/100). The only places you should have a user "locked out of cetain features" between hardware ports is if the hardware is missing or doesn't yet have a driver on that platform. The software and OS features are all consistant between hardwares. Some 3rd party (commercial and shareware/freeware) software is only available on Motorola, but that's mostly because it was released before the various other hardwares were even planned, much less supported. Some supports just Motorola and Intel. Some just Motorola, Intel, and HP. All for the same reason -- they were written before all 4 hardwares were supported, and the source wasn't available for compiling later. Only a very few cases was the source not able to be recompiled (see my comment about Archie.app below). To the best of my knowlege, commercial publishers of software have always equally supported all of the platforms, except in a very few special cases. Insignia's SoftPC 4.0 and 4.1 use the native 486+ processor to avoid CPU emulation (it's just doing OS emulation). Thus, those products only ship for NS/Intel. If the authors stuck to Next's libraries and non-architecture specific things, then there wasn't anything that would cause software to not port between the hardware ports of Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach. However, Archie.app made some unusual deep-to-the-CPU codings that have kept me from making a simple port of it to Sparc.. which is kind of annoying, since I don't want to take the time to find out what is required to port it. ;-) Writing/reading/appending binary files using Unix libraries can bite you here.. because of endian differences between platforms. Instead, stick to the NeXT libraries which have Binary Streams to files... NeXT's libraries all account for endian differences on different hardware. > 3. I am not clear about whether I can have an autonomous Next system or > does NS or OS have to run on top of Solaris or NT. For example on an Intel > system can I have NS without ever installing NT. You can have an autonomous Next system. I have Nextstep on my Sparc at work with no Solaris installed. I have Nextstep on my PC at home. It also has Win95, but the two are not interdependant.. I could delete the Win95 partition and Nextstep would still work. (I have the win95 partition for running games). > 4. Is it possible to have MAE for Solaris running with Nextstep on a Sparc > and therefore have something now that resembles the system that Apple is > suppose to deliver in 1998? Remember, Nextstep is complete Operating System + kernel + GUI. MAE for Solaris runs on the Solaris Operating System, so no... Nextstep/Sparc does not run MAE for Solaris... nor any other Solaris applications. You _CAN_ take a Solaris box, install Openstep for Solaris, and run MAE while using the Openstep Solaris window manager (which looks exactly like, and behaves mostly like, the Nextstep window manager). Or, you can get Nextstep, and find the Executor application from Ardi. Executor is basically the same thing as MAE. I don't know if it runs on Sparc though.. I think it's only available for Motorola and Intel. I don't expect that this would be like the Apple project though. I expect that to be more integrated in its legacy support than "running Mac OS in a window". I think it will at least be something like Softwindows, where Mac apps will run under the root window manager just as though they were native apps. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com (ex- kzin@email.sjsu.edu) =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Spammers: I charge you for my time, disk, and bandwidth if you post off- topic solicitations for money in the groups I read. $500/post/group. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) Newsgroups: 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#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: Mark Sitkowski Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> Control: cancel <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:29:40 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5ak18k$556@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: pitts.eng.sun.com This article canceled. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: brataas@sn.no (John Brataas) Newsgroups: 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#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: m555@ix.netcom.com (Mark Landin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <5aj56v$pur@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <5aj56v$pur@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:29:55 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5ak193$559@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: pitts.eng.sun.com This article canceled. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Bradford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for NeXTstation mono Date: 4 Jan 1997 03:03:08 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5akh9c$3uj@news3.texas.net> References: <5ajsuv$djg@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: staff1.texas.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961210] fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu wrote: : If it's non-turbo black slab-esque, it's 30-pin, 70ns or slower, in groups : of four 1 or 4 meg, 1x8,1x9,4x8, or 4x9 SIMMs. And they're damned hard : to come by (the 4 meggers) at decent prices (i.e., $30/stick or less). : Nota bene: THREE CHIP, 4 MEG SIMMS WILL *NOT* WORK! I've been using 3chip 4mb SIMMs in my non-turbo mono slab for a week now, with no problems whatsoever (no reboots, or anything). The system shows them as 16mb SIMMs when it does the RAM check on powerup, but otherwise works just fine. (4x4mb SIMMs, 16mb total). Putting 32mb in didnt work at first, but I found out that was due to a bad SIMM in the second group of 4. Exchanging them for new ones tomorrow. 8-) (they're 70ns, non-parity). bill Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "I'ts hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net!user From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black Date: 3 Jan 1997 17:07:34 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net >Connect it to the serial port. Run printmanager. Select Add printer, and >select the printer. Total doddle - took me five minutes to hook up an >apple lasertwriter. Ok, I've done this before, and it almost worked. I say almost because my printer had a too old version of Postscript and wouldn't print anything, but I got it to blink by printing from the next! ;-) Anyway, is it possible to print to an ethernet printer from nextstep? I'm curious because I've brought my slab into work to do some www perl script testing and I'd like to be able to print from it. Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!yuma!purdue!haven.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!rac10.wam.umd.edu!not-for-mail From: bbq@wam.umd.edu (BBQ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FS:NeXT Cube Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:25:29 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5akij9$jl7@rac10.wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rac10.wam.umd.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:15873 comp.sys.next.hardware:26456 comp.sys.next.misc:24171 Newsgroups: dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,um.forsale,balt.forsale Subject: NeXT Cube forsale Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Keywords: Cc: I have one NeXT Cube forsale. 16MB RAM 660MB Hard Drive 230Magnetic Optical drive (I believe, don't know if it works though) 17" megapixel monitor, I don't know what they sold it as, the standard greyscale monitor Keyboard and mouse Currently has the OS loaded and running, though I don't have the disks SCSI,Ethernet,etc on the back of course I also have the NeXT laser printer that goes with this. 400DPI. The print output is great with the toner I tested in it, but it needs a new one. And the paper loading is slightly stiff, just needs a little work, but works I am asking $1000, but I am definitely open to offers. bbq #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.NetVision.net.il!news From: "Yoni Livne" Newsgroups: comp.sys.imb.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.hardwarecomp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardwarePowerBook,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.pc.hardware Subject: Click me. Date: 4 Jan 1997 16:32:16 GMT Organization: NetVision LTD. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <01baecd4$e97830e0$df0b5ac2@LivneFam.netvision.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts012p5.pop9a.netvision.net.il X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:59493 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:23034 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:16168 comp.sys.next.hardware:26457 Hi, I'm looking for an external IDE Hard-Drive case (connected through a parallel port) I've seen: - Anteck ks510 ~ $80 - Nexar removable HD cady ~ $30 - Circo removable HD kit ~ $30 1. Can anybody tell me which one is the best for me (I'm going to use it for data transfer from my home PC to another one at work). 2. Why is there a $50 difference (between the Anteck and the other 2), and what does it mean? Tanks in advance, waiting for a reply... Jonathan Livne. P.S. Please reply to: *****----------- livne@netvision.net.il -----------***** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.bellglobal.com!thunder.mgl.ca!usenet From: Dave Johnston Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:55:16 -0500 Organization: IMMA Inc. Lines: 74 Message-ID: <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> References: <32CD60EC.C7B@imma.org> Reply-To: djohnsto@imma.org NNTP-Posting-Host: imma3.imma.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------ADF7EFC48800" X-Sender: Dave Johnston (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) X-Priority: Normal ------------ADF7EFC48800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm back with an update. After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 pin simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must be one of the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade though and ASP. Has anyone out there come across this and done the memory upgrade themselves? Can you use both types of simms in this machine? If in fact I need to take it in for service, are there any NeXT ASPs around? This might be even more problematic as I live in Canada, near Toronto. Also, when I used the ROM monitor, it tells me that I have 16 simm slots with eight 1 MB simms installed. I'm really not sure how to procede. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. cheers Dave Johnston ------------ADF7EFC48800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I'm back with an update.
 
After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 pin simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must be one of the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade though and ASP.
 
Has anyone out there come across this and done the memory upgrade themselves? Can you use both types of simms in this machine? If in fact I need to take it in for service, are there any NeXT ASPs around? This might be even more problematic as I live in Canada, near Toronto.
 
Also, when I used the ROM monitor, it tells me that I have 16 simm slots with eight 1 MB simms installed.  I'm really not sure how to procede.
 
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
cheers
 
Dave Johnston
 
 
------------ADF7EFC48800-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!usenet From: Brian Sutherland Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax which modems? Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:15:08 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Lines: 17 Message-ID: <32CEC85C.2B92@onramp.net> References: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> Reply-To: rmaniac@onramp.net NNTP-Posting-Host: help12.onramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: Derek Chan Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:27071 comp.sys.next.hardware:26459 Derek Chan wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has > to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics > V.Everything but, have heard that US Robitics modems don't work with NXFax (I > couldn't get a 28.8 USR Sportster to work but, maybe the V.Everything will > work). Can anyone recommend anything? > > Thanks. > > -- > dchan@earthlink.net | NeXTmail or MIMEmail welcome. I have a courier V.everything I will go home tonight and try it out. Look for my post in a day or two. Brian #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: frivolous monitor question Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 03:59:30 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26460 comp.sys.next.misc:24196 On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, John Kestner wrote: > > Do any of the black NeXT color monitors have the same cool stand the mono > monitors do? Do all the mono monitors have that stand? (I'm referring to > the original stand.) I presume you mean the cool rolling stand. The answer is no. This is because the colour screens were all manufactured by other companies for NeXT. Only the MegaPixel screens were made in-house. Also, later MegaPixels (model N4000B) have a more streamlined tilting base that still looks pretty cool (but does not have the ribs or rubber rollers). -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the current Next hardware? Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 17:29:39 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 In article <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com answered your question in heroic style. But there are a couple of points to add: In its later 3.X versions, NS ran on Motorola, Intel, Sparc and HP machines, offering Mach 2.5, the NS GUI and user/development environments. This required booting under a NeXT OS, ie, not DOS/Win95/SunOS etc. There was a substantial 3rd party ensemble of applications, still available. In 4.X, NS still offers some Mach based options, but I'm not sure which machines other than Motorola they run on. All 3.X apps run on these machines. Sun also offers an OS version which runs under Solaris. OS includes the GUI and some user/developer tools, but no 3rd party apps to date. A good many 3.X NS apps are controlled by Lighthouse, a Sun subsidiary now, which presumably will port them to Sun's version of OS. Hope I got that right! Barney #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 17:40:08 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 In article , joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) wrote: > Anyway, is it possible to print to an ethernet printer from nextstep? I'm > curious because I've brought my slab into work to do some www perl script > testing and I'd like to be able to print from it. Sure is, if its a real ethernet (vs Appletalk or AT via EN bridge) printer. The printer has to have an EN host on its adapter card. These cost $300-400 per card. Also, a PS RIP. Barney #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!news.uoregon.edu!disco.iinet.net.au!opera.iinet.net.au!hawk.ois.net.au!eagle43.ois.net.au!s.doyle From: Steven Doyle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [q] Ne2000 ethernet card in Nextstep 3.3 for Intel Date: 5 Jan 97 01:04:57 GMT Organization: Edith Cowan University Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <32cefe39.0@hawk.ois.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: hawk.ois.net.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.4_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:07:03 GMT Hi All! Managed to install Nextstep 3.3 okay on a INtel machine, yet I can't find a driver for a NE2000 Ethernet card, the only one on the next is for 3.2 and is in japanese. Is there a driver out there somewhere or is it easier to buy a supported ethernet card??? I can't find anyone in Australia who uses Next to bug them about this :-( Thanks! Steve s.doyle@cowan.edu.au #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!demos!news1.best.com!nntp1.best.com!mycroft From: mycroft@nntp.best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" Megapixel Color with Mac? Date: 5 Jan 1997 02:53:09 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5an52l$9l9@nntp1.best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shellx.best.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello people. I have a ColorStation with a Hitachi 21" display and was wondering if there is any known way to get that monitor to work with a macintosh. I've looked on the Griffin Technologies home page (http://www.nashville.net/~griffin/) for this particular display but have been able to find nothing. Has anyone tried it and gotten it to work? -- alex currier | Reactiveware - Clothing for the 22nd Century mycroft@best.com | www.reactiveware.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!nntp.bnl.gov!usenet From: doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Suggestions on P166 machine for NS? Date: 30 Dec 1996 21:59:18 GMT Organization: American Physical Society Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5a9dvm$cvn@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> References: <1996Dec30.163344.8386@schbbs.mot.com> Reply-To: : doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.199.52.132 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) frank_m@jupiter.sat.mot.com wrote: >Anybody have any suggestions on a Pentium 166 MHz machine >for running Nextstep. I would like to spend around $5K >for a machine. My needs are more toward CPU power than >graphics power. I would like to get a machine that is >fairly good quality (reliable). I have been VERY pleased with my Pentium 166 system from Bifrost (http://www.bifrostworks.com/). They will build you a very nice machine for under $5k (including excellent graphics power). Cheers, Mark #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: "John Stiening" Subject: NextStation Ethernet problem. X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ntcs-ip153.uchicago.edu Message-ID: <01bbfa5c$a104c440$9a128780@starlock.Uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:50:03 GMT Lines: 17 I have come across a NextStation Turbo, which I would like to pick up. Unfortunately, the machine fails to complete the boot process. Initially I start the machine booting by using the command "b sd". All works fine until the machine attempts to find the network. The computer then continuously attempts to find some phantom server on the network. Is there a way I can disable the network functions, or maybe to get the machine to boot without initializing any of the network parameters? If you could reply by email I would appreciate it. thanks, john "jmstieni@midway.uchicago.edu" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!news.uoregon.edu!tezcat!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.149.24.18!excalibur.flash.net!ultranews.duc.auburn.edu!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ADB esc sequence? Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:58:34 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <5ajfun$7nq@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Raymond Lutz In-Reply-To: <5ajfun$7nq@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26467 comp.sys.next.misc:24217 On 3 Jan 1997, Raymond Lutz wrote: > What are the escape key combinations for ADB keayboards? > > How do I access the NMI Mini-Monitor? Command-LeftAlternate-` -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!news.uoregon.edu!tezcat!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.149.24.18!excalibur.flash.net!ultranews.duc.auburn.edu!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for NeXTstation mono Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:00:50 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <5ajsuv$djg@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 3 Jan 1997 fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu wrote: > > Quick check: it's 72 PIN non-EDO, right (e.g., 32MB 72 PIN 8X32-70)? > > If it's non-turbo black slab-esque, it's 30-pin, 70ns or slower, in groups > of four 1 or 4 meg, 1x8,1x9,4x8, or 4x9 SIMMs. And they're damned hard > to come by (the 4 meggers) at decent prices (i.e., $30/stick or less). Well, if it's a more recent 25 Mhz station, it may indeed use 72-pin SIMMs (mine does). In that case, the original poster is correct. -Isaac #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!192.35.251.21!news.spss.com!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: HELP: Find ljf? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 8 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:25:32 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:24218 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24761 comp.sys.next.hardware:26469 Hi... I'm trying to find either Bert Lindgren, , or a copy of ljf, whichever comes first. Looks as though Bert has left GA Tech. Does anyone know where to find him, or his HP LaserJet program, jlf? Thanks! -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!agate!cocoa.brown.edu!cfm.brown.edu!andrew From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ? NeXT monitor - IBM machine ? Date: 5 Jan 1997 15:33:27 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Lines: 6 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5aohk7$5g8@cocoa.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cfm.brown.edu How do get a NeXTstation Turbo Color Monitor to work with an IBM compatible computer? Thank you, Andrew #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!agate!cocoa.brown.edu!cfm.brown.edu!andrew From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ? "BEST" small hard drive ? Date: 5 Jan 1997 15:40:21 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5aoi15$5g8@cocoa.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cfm.brown.edu I am a computer novice and much of the talk on hard drives (hd) is over my head. What I want is a hd recommendation for a NeXTstation Color Turbo ADB with the following properties: 1 Fast 2 Quite 3 Small (about 660Mb) 4 Cool (I've heard a lot about over heating) 5 Compatible Names and modle numbers would be greatly apreciated. Thank you, Andrew #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: frivolous monitor question Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:07:34 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26472 comp.sys.next.misc:24219 In article , Isaac wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, John Kestner wrote: > I presume you mean the cool rolling stand. The answer is no. This is > because the colour screens were all manufactured by other companies for > NeXT. Only the MegaPixel screens were made in-house. Ummh. My info, from an in-house tech who'd taken the NeXT repair course, is that the black monitors were actually made (and repaired) by Sony. Barney #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!news.intercon.com!news5.digex.net!haven.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!vdal5.eng.umd.edu!veakblad From: veakblad@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Serial port driver on White Hardware Date: 5 Jan 1997 17:59:37 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5aoq69$1c5@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vdal5.eng.umd.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Did NeXT ever fix the broken serial port drivers on X86 hardware? I remember having to jump through hoops to get a 14.4 modem work reliably with NSFIP. Is that just a bad memory now, or is this problem still there? TIA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!news.asu.edu!jak From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice wanted: Mac user -> NeXT beginner Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:37:50 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> <1997Jan1.053634.25171@seer.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp1-10.inre.asu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.6 In article <1997Jan1.053634.25171@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul_Lynch@griffin.plsys.co.uk wrote: >In article <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> "Jonathan D. Nolen" > writes: >> Are the older NeXT machines ethernet capable out of the box, or >> do they require more hardware, like a NIC? I know that NeXT can mount >> Mac drives from an appletalk network, but can a Mac mount NeXT drives? > >They all have ethernet. Not all systems support AppleTalk; those that do >support the ethernet variety only, and can't act as a server. You can buy >IPT Partner for other systems. Which systems do support AppleTalk? How much does Partner cost? thanks john --- - ------- ------- And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables. - The Tick jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:24:12 GMT Lines: 36 In article <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> Dave Johnston writes: > I'm back with an update. > > After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 pin > simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must be one of > the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade through an ASP. > It is a early version, indeed. But you can do as much to it as you can do to later versions, only that some components are somewhat harder to come by. > Has anyone out there come across this and done the memory upgrade > themselves? Can you use both types of simms in this machine? If in fact > I need to take it in for service, are there any NeXT ASPs around? This > might be even more problematic as I live in Canada, near Toronto. > Yes, I've done it, and I'm sure many more but me. > Also, when I used the ROM monitor, it tells me that I have 16 simm slots > with eight 1 MB simms installed. I'm really not sure how to procede. > Obviously, you got a rather erly ROM version that was meant for the cube, primarily. The 8 30pin SIMM slots are main memory (1M or 4M x 8 or 9, 100ns or better) in two banks of four each. Bank 0 is next to the power supply and needs to hold the larger portion of the memory, in case of mixed setups. The single 72pin slot is expansion memory for the DSP. And, of course, all this, and more, is covered in the FAQ on Peanuts. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!news.service.uci.edu!skylark.ucr.edu!info.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!not-for-mail From: flinn@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Flinn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster16: is this problem unique? Date: 5 Jan 1997 14:33:03 -0800 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5apa6v$fcu@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: cascade.cs.ubc.ca Keywords: SoundBlaster, sound card I have a Plug-n-Play SoundBlaster16 card in my relatively new Pentium/PCI system running NS 3.3. I know that a lot of people have trouble getting this card to work, but I haven't heard mention of the problems I am experiencing. If your experience differs from mine, I would greatly appreciate a brief reply or follow-up to that effect. All of the NeXT-supplied drivers have produced the same results (the current version 3.34 in all four flavours: PnP or not, 8 or 16 bit DMA, and the previous version (3.33?)). Namely, everything seems to work fine (although I haven't tried recording), but I frequently get catastrophic system freezes -- everything just locks up (including the getty on my serial port) and a hard reset is required (followed by the obligatory ten minutes of fsck torturing my disk). The card has been thoroughly tested from Windows 95, where its configuration is shown to be: IRQ 5, DMA 1, 5, I/O Range 0220-022F 0330-0331 0388-038B. These same settings on the NS side allow sounds to be generated correctly, but lead to the system freezing. The other strange problem is that when I have the ISA/EISA bus driver (version 3.35) set to enable Plug-n-Play, the card appears to be detected at system initialization time, but the driver fails to detect it and does not load properly (even with the PnP version of the SB driver v3.34). I have to disable PnP for the NeXT supplied driver to work. The only configuration I have had any success with is the driver written by Amir Guindehi (version 2.01), although I have to use the "Classic" setting. (Enabling PnP in the ISA/EISA driver causes this driver to hang when it loads.) It works, but I don't get 16 bit sounds, volume control, simultaneous sounds (one must finish before the next starts), and play-through of audio CD's seems to work only once for every ten or so system (re)starts. I have never had any of the "hardware reset" problems that version 3.34 of the driver fixed for non-PnP cards. Any ideas? Scott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!208.195.156.10!news.walltech.com!hsnx.wco.com!news.wco.com!news From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ADB esc sequence? Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 23:22:46 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5apd4o$qfr@news.wco.com> References: <5ajfun$7nq@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: volans138.wco.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26477 comp.sys.next.misc:24229 email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) wrote: >Hi there, >What are the escape key combinations for ADB keayboards? >How do I access the NMI Mini-Monitor? Hold down both the Left ALT key and the Command Bar, and press the ~ (tilde) key WITHOUT pressing the shift key. >How do I reset the hardware? Hold down both the Left ALT key and the Command Bar, and press the * key on the numeric keypad. Note that this is a hard reset, and does not result in a clean shutdown. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem. Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 22:18:16 +0500 Organization: Internet Knowledge Bank Lines: 3 Message-ID: <32CFE258.4144@sprintmail.com> References: <01bbfa5c$a104c440$9a128780@starlock.Uchicago.edu> Reply-To: RayEhrlich@sprintmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-001flspetp08.dialsprint.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SI300B01 (Win95; I) To: John Stiening I have a similar problem with one of my NeXT Stations. Do not know how to boot it because it is looking for a network component. Also I can not get into single user mode, only ROM monitor and NMI. Help. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701051707.MAA18795@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 6062bb9e93e5255a3653da18e7830c5c - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Sun, 5 Jan 97 12:07:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 6062bb9e93e5255a3653da18e7830c5c - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 17 Responding To: Dave Johnston Original Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:55:16 -0500 > After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 > pin simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must > be one of the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade though > and ASP. That 72pin slot if dor the DSP, you'll probably never use it Someone else has probably mentioned this by now TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!192.207.105.50!prodigy.com!johnsmith From: Ones-And-Zeros@prodigy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ! MASS POST Was Here! (plGNpW) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 05:40:04 GMT Organization: Mass Post Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5aq38m$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: port76.nyc3.prodigy.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 MASS POST--the program by Ones and Zeros--has been used to send this message to thousands of newsgroups. (plGNpW) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5aq38m$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Date: 6 Jan 1997 06:49:08 GMT Control: cancel <5aq38m$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Sender: Ones-And-Zeros@prodigy.net X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 2 Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: ONESZEROS Original Subject: ! MASS POST Was Here! (plGNpW) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.53.145.3!news.interlog.com!squig From: squig@interlog.com (Matt Drnovscek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compatibility of ATI 3D rage video on NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Date: Sun, 05 Jan 97 19:12:52 GMT Organization: InterLog Internet Services Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5aq7k8$3r3@news.interlog.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: squig.interlog.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Does anybody know if the Mach 64 based video driver for openstep will support an ATI 3Drage based video card (which is supposedly a mach64 chip with 3d hardware bolted onto it .. under WinNT this works) Or does anybody know if a 3d rage driver is in the works?? any info is much appreciated please respond to this newsgroup or email me at squig@computersystems.on.ca squig@interlog.com Many Thanks, Matt Drnovscek squig@interlog.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Other operating system possible? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:07:56 GMT References: <01bbf98a$0a7d2f80$5cff4fc1@gheijmen.inter.nl.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 In article <01bbf98a$0a7d2f80$5cff4fc1@gheijmen.inter.nl.net>, gerard wrote: >Got a Cube doing nothing, could somebody tell me if I can load another >operating system? Or should I dump the Cube? > Someone was talking about porting FreeBSD, but I have no idea how much work's been done. There's a Plan 9 port, if you're into that sort of thing. Otherwise, advertise away on c.s.n.marketplace. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What is the current Next hardware? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:14:47 GMT References: <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 19 In article , James B. Frazer wrote: >In 4.X, NS still offers some Mach based options, but I'm not sure which >machines other than Motorola they run on. 4.x runs on Motorola, Sparc, and Intel (as of 4.1). >All 3.X apps run on these machines. >Sun also offers an OS version which runs under Solaris. OS includes the GUI >and some user/developer tools, but no 3rd party apps to date. Create 4.0 is out for OPENSTEP (Solaris, NT, and Mach). Very nice drawing app (from Stone Design). -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!demos!news1.best.com!nntp1.best.com!usenet From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ? "BEST" small hard drive ? Date: 6 Jan 1997 07:48:57 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5aqap9$rr4@nntp1.best.com> References: <5aoi15$5g8@cocoa.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cwolf.vip.best.com In-Reply-To: <5aoi15$5g8@cocoa.brown.edu> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00127-01 On 01/04/97, Andrew Jones wrote: >I am a computer novice and much of the talk on hard drives (hd) is >over my head. What I want is a hd recommendation for a NeXTstation >Color Turbo ADB with the following properties: > >1 Fast >2 Quite >3 Small (about 660Mb) >4 Cool (I've heard a lot about over heating) >5 Compatible > >Names and modle numbers would be greatly apreciated. I just put a Seagate Medalist 1080SL (ST51080N) drive in my "new" NeXTstation Turbo color and it works great. (1.08 GB, 12.5 ms seek, 128K cache, 5400 RPM) It's not the fastest drive around but it's a decent match for the capabilities of the older SCSI interface on NeXT hardware. I haven't benchmarked it yet so I can't give you any exact figures. The best thing is that it's TINY: this thing is like 1/2" tall. I think there's enough room that you could stack another LP (1") drive ron top of it and still get the case on a slab. It also seems to run cool and is inaudible while idling - seeks are a bit noiser. - Chris -- __________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf - NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer Mail: cwolf@wolfware.com Web: http://www.wolfware.com/cwolf/cwolf.shtml __________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!news1.best.com!nntp1.best.com!usenet From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compatibility of ATI 3D rage video on NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Date: 6 Jan 1997 07:52:38 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5aqb06$s0v@nntp1.best.com> References: <5aq7k8$3r3@news.interlog.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cwolf.vip.best.com In-Reply-To: <5aq7k8$3r3@news.interlog.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00127-01 On 01/05/97, Matt Drnovscek wrote: >Does anybody know if the Mach 64 based video driver for openstep will support >an ATI 3Drage based video card (which is supposedly a mach64 chip with 3d >hardware bolted onto it .. under WinNT this works) > >Or does anybody know if a 3d rage driver is in the works?? A friend of mine recently tried getting an ATI 3D Pro (Rage II) card working under OpenStep 4.1/Mach using the Mach64 drivers and was unable to do so. - Chris -- __________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf - NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer Mail: cwolf@wolfware.com Web: http://www.wolfware.com/cwolf/cwolf.shtml __________________________________________________ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!demos!news.rssi.ru!news.phys.msu.su!news.free.net!jupiter.nic.dtag.de!news.mediahaus.de!news From: pwalter@mediahaus.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: No sound output by SB16PnP X-Nntp-Posting-Host: wodev.mediahaus.de Message-ID: Sender: news@mediahaus.de (News System) Reply-To: pwalter@mediahaus.de Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:25:43 GMT Lines: 27 I'm trying to use a SoundBlaster 16 Value PnP with NEXTSTEP 3.3. After having installed all necessary drivers (ISA/EISA v3.35, enabling Plug and Play support, and SoundBlaster 16PnP v3.34), the system seems to detect the card: Jan 6 03:12:36 iq-06 mach: PnP: configuring Creative SB16 PnP Audio Jan 6 03:12:36 iq-06 mach: SoundBlaster16 hardware version is 4.13 Jan 6 03:12:36 iq-06 mach: SoundBlaster16 at dma channels 1 and 5 irq 5 Jan 6 03:12:36 iq-06 mach: Registering: SoundBlaster16 Unfortunately, however, I cannot produce any sound output under NEXTSTEP (I've got no problems under DOS, so I know the hardware and cabling are OK). Of course, I checked my preferences and made sure the speakers aren't muted. Does anybody have any idea what could be wrong? Regards, Piers Uso Walter ilink GmbH piers@iqweb.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news1.best.com!nntp1.best.com!usenet From: kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth C. Dyke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compatibility of ATI 3D rage video on NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Date: 6 Jan 1997 08:41:35 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5aqdrv$fl@nntp1.best.com> References: <5aq7k8$3r3@news.interlog.com> <5aqb06$s0v@nntp1.best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp.jumpgate.com In-Reply-To: <5aqb06$s0v@nntp1.best.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00002 On 01/05/97, Christopher Wolf wrote: >On 01/05/97, Matt Drnovscek wrote: >>Does anybody know if the Mach 64 based video driver for openstep will support >>an ATI 3Drage based video card (which is supposedly a mach64 chip with 3d >>hardware bolted onto it .. under WinNT this works) >> >>Or does anybody know if a 3d rage driver is in the works?? > >A friend of mine recently tried getting an ATI 3D Pro (Rage II) card working >under OpenStep 4.1/Mach using the Mach64 drivers and was unable to do so. That being me. ;) The driver complained that it was unable to find the ATI BIOS at startup. The PCI autodetect id stuff matched the card, but obviously something else is making the driver unhappy. I'd offer to give a card to NeXT to make it work but I decided to return it today. :-\ -Ken #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.53.145.3!news.interlog.com!squig From: squig@interlog.com (Matt Drnovscek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anybody know where to buy a used Next (Black hardware) In Toronto Date: Sun, 05 Jan 97 20:41:15 GMT Organization: InterLog Internet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5aqcps$7bb@news.interlog.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: squig.interlog.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Does anybody know of anybody selling used 040 Color next hardware in Toronto Ontario, Canada? Please send email me at: squig@interlog.com or squig@computersystems.on.ca Many thanks, Matt Drnovscek #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.149.24.18!excalibur.flash.net!ultranews.duc.auburn.edu!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 17:47:32 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <32CD60EC.C7B@imma.org> <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Dave Johnston In-Reply-To: <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Dave Johnston wrote: > After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 pin > simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must be one of > the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade though and ASP. > > Has anyone out there come across this and done the memory upgrade > themselves? Can you use both types of simms in this machine? If in fact > I need to take it in for service, are there any NeXT ASPs around? This > might be even more problematic as I live in Canada, near Toronto. You needn't take it in for service! You simply need to use 4 meg, 30 pin, 70ns SIMMs. Some people have reported problems with 3-chip SIMMs, so you might want to steer clear of those. The 72 pin SIMM slot is for a DSP memory upgrade. Just ignore it. The NeXT is more sensitive to memory timing than many other machines. You'll ideally want simms from the same batch. And, of course, you need to add them in groups of 4, up to a maximum of 32 megs (I believe, not sure if this is the limit for 30-pin models). Hope this helps, -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!xs4all!ztm05-24.dial.xs4all.nl!user From: rr@xs4all.nl (rr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT MegaPixel 21" > Mac Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 15:48:02 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ztm05-24.dial.xs4all.nl X-XS4ALL-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 15:52:02 MET Hi, Is it possible to get my NeXT monitor ( MegaPixel 21" color) working with say a Perfoma 6400 ? Can this be done ? please reply at this email adress; rr@xs4all.nl rodney #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!news.io.com!fnord!news.fc.net!digdug.pswtech.com!usenet From: robin@pswtech.com (Robin Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Serial port driver on White Hardware Date: 6 Jan 1997 17:02:10 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5arb6i$v5b@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <5aoq69$1c5@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomp.pswtech.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) veakblad@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) wrote: } Did NeXT ever fix the broken serial port drivers on X86 hardware? } I remember having to jump through hoops to get a 14.4 modem work } reliably with NSFIP. Is that just a bad memory now, or is this } problem still there? } } TIA Everything works at 57.6Kbps for me. I wish they'd bump to 115.2Kbps though. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!news.io.com!fnord!jamesl.sirs.com!user From: jamesl@io.com (James Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to best learn NeXT Date: 6 Jan 1997 17:26:30 GMT Lines: 6 Sender: jamesl@jamesl.sirs.com Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: jamesl.sirs.com Soliciting recommendations on how to best learn NeXT. Considering buying a NeXTstation 68040/16 for $379 used. Is that a good deal? Is it a good place to start? Please copy me via email. Thanks- Jim Lee __________________________________________________________________ jamesl@io.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!haven.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!vdal5.eng.umd.edu!veakblad From: veakblad@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Serial port driver on White Hardware Date: 6 Jan 1997 19:19:26 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5arj7u$coi@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vdal5.eng.umd.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Robin Wilson (robin@pswtech.com) wrote: : veakblad@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) wrote: : } Did NeXT ever fix the broken serial port drivers on X86 hardware? : } I remember having to jump through hoops to get a 14.4 modem work : } reliably with NSFIP. Is that just a bad memory now, or is this : } problem still there? : } : } TIA : Everything works at 57.6Kbps for me. I wish they'd bump to 115.2Kbps though. What version? running on X86 hardware? : -- : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- : *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies : 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy : Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 : (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nic.win.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the current Next hardware? Date: 6 Jan 1997 21:01:47 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5arp7r$b4a@news.digifix.com> References: <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 01/05/97, David Evans wrote: >In article , >James B. Frazer wrote: >>In 4.X, NS still offers some Mach based options, but I'm not sure which >>machines other than Motorola they run on. > > 4.x runs on Motorola, Sparc, and Intel (as of 4.1). > >>All 3.X apps run on these machines. >>Sun also offers an OS version which runs under Solaris. OS includes the GUI >>and some user/developer tools, but no 3rd party apps to date. > > Create 4.0 is out for OPENSTEP (Solaris, NT, and Mach). Very nice drawing >app (from Stone Design). Yes, and Stone announced today intentions to get a MacOS version out the door. They'll probably have a shipping native drawing package before anyone else on the new OS. Nice that its so very cool too. :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!news.u.washington.edu!tpayne From: tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Bootup problems Date: 6 Jan 1997 21:20:12 GMT Organization: University of Washington Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5arqac$2m9@nntp1.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu Summary: Hangs during 'starting file service daemons'--tips? Keywords: Bootup problems Nextstep 3.3 was working fine on my Gateway 486DX66 until one day when it hung on 'starting automounter' during bootup. Running 'boot: -v' showed that the point at which bootup hangs is when the line 'starting file service daemons' is displayed. I know of no damage or change to the system that should have caused this to happen. Any suggestions for solving this? Thanks. Tom Payne -- Thomas Payne, MD Clinical Computing Project Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound, Seattle #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.207.105.50!prodigy.com!usenet From: "Sam.Chow" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which NeXT h/w has ISDN Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 23:10:13 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Internet Lines: 15 Message-ID: <32D1CCA5.5479@prodigy.net> Reply-To: Sam.Chow@prodigy.net NNTP-Posting-Host: port74.bost2.prodigy.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Dear Netters, I remember that one of the NeXT hardware model actually has an ISDN port at the back and I am wondering which model is that? Also, has anyone have any good/bad experience in using the ISDN port to contect to an ISP for fast internet access? Any info to share with the newsgroup would be great. Thanks in advance. Regards, Samuel Chow #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!taurus!adnline24043.adnc.com!user From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB NeXT color Cube or Station Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 22:23:36 -0800 Organization: adnc.com Lines: 2 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.251.240.43 I'm still looking for a color Cube or Station. Also looking for any NeXT accessories or neat items. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!feeder.chicago.cic.net!ftpbox.mot.com!mothost.mot.com!schbbs!news From: frank_m@jupiter.sat.mot.com Subject: NS on Compaq Deskpro 6000? Reply-To: frank_m@jupiter.sat.mot.com Organization: MOTOROLA Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:35:23 GMT Message-ID: <1997Jan6.233523.22022@schbbs.mot.com> Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (SCHBBS News Account) Nntp-Posting-Host: 170.1.5.21 Lines: 4 Has anyone had any luck running NS 3.3 on a Compaq Deskpro 6000? In particular, I was looking at a 6180. - Thanks, Mark frank_m@jupiter.sat.mot.com #################################################################### From: Dale Pippert Organization: Taratec Development Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Printers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: zaphod.taratec.com Message-ID: <32d28463.0@news.dca.net> Date: 7 Jan 97 17:14:11 GMT Lines: 17 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.183.80.189!news.dca.net!zaphod.taratec.com My black printer has recently started jamming pages. It is not the ejection problem as discussed in NeXTAnswers - the page gets about 2 or 3 inches in, then is stuck. It's like the second roller is not picking it up. Is there anywhere a person can have a chance of getting these serviced, being that most shops won't have a NeXT computer laying around to test it with? Where is the cover switch that I might be able to disable, so that I can see inside while it is printing. Much thanks! dpippert@taratec.com Dale #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news.jsc.nasa.gov!pat!allman From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Max. memory question -- NeXTstation non-turbo Date: 7 Jan 1997 18:03:16 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5au354$l23@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.200.134.21 My NeXTstation (mono non-turbo) has eight slots and uses 30-pin memory simms. Question to all of you that have had the resources to try this: What would happen if I put, say, 4 4-meg simms and 4 16-meg simms? Or 8 16-meg simms? I've seen "maximum memory" numbers quoted, but often times these numbers are just "8 * (maximum simm size currently available)." -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netnews.upenn.edu!mail2.sas.upenn.edu!asmash From: asmash@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Adam Smash) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adjusting 21" color monitor Date: 7 Jan 1997 21:22:25 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5aueqh$793@netnews.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mail2.sas.upenn.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2-upenn1.3] Hello all, I made the unfortunate mistake of attempting to adjust my 21" color monitor via the recessed controls underneath the back cover. Anyone have any ideas how I can get it back to the stock settings? -adam #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netnews.upenn.edu!mail2.sas.upenn.edu!asmash From: asmash@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Adam Smash) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP memory Date: 7 Jan 1997 21:25:24 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5auf04$793@netnews.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mail2.sas.upenn.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2-upenn1.3] What benefits will I get by added memory to the DSP memory slot? I'm using the sound manipulation program SoundWorks with a DigitalEars box interfaced thru the DSP port. What type of memory is used in the DSP memory slot? Can I use the same memory SIMMs as the normal 72pin SIMMS in a Turbo or Color? -adam #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.246.124.37!nntp.newsfirst.com!nntp.crosslink.net!not-for-mail From: fh@crosslink.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HelpPlz..ASUS MB Date: 8 Jan 1997 01:30:17 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5autb9$t8g$1@kronos.crosslink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.246.124.34 NNTP-Posting-User: fh X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Hi... I've gone through a tough one trying to get an ASUS P6NP5 motherboard going with NS.. It's a 200Mhz Pent. Pro with a Natoma Chipset.... The board works fine with Windoze but with NS, any mouse (both internal PS2 and serial) as well as other serials ports fail... NS checks out fine with a 90 Mhz Pentium. Mouse driver is up to date with the latest Serial Pointing Device as well as the the new Serial Port drivers. I've been told that the Asus P6NP5/200 is supposed to work out of the box... Anyone else get one working??? I'll be grateful for any input or advice... thanks! -- Ted --- \ o / _ o __| \ / |__ o _ \ o / o | /\ __\o \o | o/ o/__ /\ | /|\ ../.\...|.\../).|....(.\../o\../.)....|..(\../.|.../.\.../.\. Ted Okada | http://www.fh.org/ Director | gopher://gopher.fh.org Washington D.C. Bureau | ftp://ftp.fh.org Food For The Hungry | ytalk:fh@shell.crosslink.net Help Africa's Children--Call Food For The Hungry 1-800-2HUNGER --- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: memory in 040 cube Date: 8 Jan 1997 02:16:51 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ccc1.tamu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 In an 040 cube, I have 12 4mb simms for 48mb ram and I try to add another 4 4mb simms in the last 4 slots but it only sees them as 1mb simms. I tried switching them around and still the last 4 are seen as 1mb simms. Is there a way to configure the simms slots in the rom monitor or something. Does the cube use standard 30 pin simms? I'm baffled! ~:O Stephen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!nntp.uio.no!news.global-one.no!nippy1.rn.mbs.no!root From: "Magne Jørgensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Date: 8 Jan 1997 02:38:38 GMT Organization: MBS Fjerndata Lines: 24 Message-ID: <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens> NNTP-Posting-Host: sarp-rack1-0.rn.mbs.no X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 I have a NeXTstation turbo. It studdenly stupped one day:-( When I try to start it again, I got this message on the screen: boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics booting SCSI target 4, lun 0 blk0 boot: sd()diagnostics Booting from SCSI target 4 lun0 diagnostics: not found load failed blk0boot: I have mounted the HD as external on a other macine of the same kind. The first time i started up, I got the message that it had to be repaired, and so the machine did it. Later the disk came up. And that it did whit the next reboot also. But it does not bott up the Next were it belongs to. Does you know what this can be, so please help me to fix it. mjorgens@ostfoldnett.no #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Max. memory question -- NeXTstation non-turbo Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:14:43 GMT References: <5au354$l23@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article <5au354$l23@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov>, Mark Allman wrote: >My NeXTstation (mono non-turbo) has eight slots and uses 30-pin >memory simms. Question to all of you that have had the resources >to try this: > What would happen if I put, say, 4 4-meg simms and 4 16-meg > simms? Or 8 16-meg simms? > The largest SIMM size you can use is 4MB, making the maximum capacity 32MB. If you put 16MB SIMMs in my guess is they'll either not be recognised, or be treated as 4MB SIMMs. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wacom ArtZ Tablet on Black hardware Date: 8 Jan 1997 15:41:28 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 21 Message-ID: <19970108153900.KAA06197@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I've attached my Wacom ArtZ tablet (PC version) to my Cube, and tried running the supplied installation App--no luck. The system will respond when I press the pen to the tablet, but it instantly moves the cursor to the upper left corner and then simulates erratic mouse clicks for a brief time. Wacom tech support sent me an overlay for the tablet, which apparently is part of a menu system to set the tablet to a mode which the NeXT will recognize--no instructions though (these were out of a manual for an ArtZ II). Can anyone provide any hints or pointers? The only drivers which I've been able to find are for Intel hardware. William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!not-for-mail From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Adding another Hard Drive Date: 8 Jan 1997 15:44:28 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5b0fcs$pp1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: shiva.nrl.navy.mil At present I have a an IBM clone Pentium 90 multimedia( 1Gb HD Scsi Fujitsu, 48Mb Ram). I had partitioned it, 600 Mb for next step and 400 Mb for windows 95 and applications. Everything works fine and has worked fine for 2 years. Now I want to (1) add another SCSI hard drive 2.1 Gb Seagate and use this newly added hard disk exclusively for windows and also make this as a boot drive ( i.e. SCSI ID 00) and want to transfer all the windows data ( about 339 Mb) from Fujitsu to it. (2) Use Fujitsu 1GB ( SCSI ID 01) only for next step, i.e. remove the DOS partition without losing the existing next step data. By the way I am using NCR SCSI -2 card which works fine for Next step. If any one has experience in doing the above, I would greatly appreciate their input. Thanks a lot for your assistance and input to avoid pitfalls in modifying my hardware. Thanks a lot for your input. Sincerely , Narendra #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ncar!uchinews!not-for-mail From: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) Subject: Number Nine Series 2 beta driver X-Nntp-Posting-Host: woodlawn-nfs.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Summary: Number Nine Series 2 beta driver Keywords: Number Nine Series 2 beta driver Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:25:15 GMT Lines: 19 Hi, Does anyone have any experience with using the beta driver for this card? Specifically, Driver: Number Nine Imagine128 Series 2 Driver Overview: NeXTanswer #2489 and the (newer?) beta under NA# 2488. Is this driver still under development? Are there plans to finish it? Is the beta driver usable 'as is'? many thanks in advance, Arno Bosse Academic Computing Services Univ. of Chicago #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!144.212.100.12!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: memory in 040 cube Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:50:59 GMT References: <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 In article <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu>, Stephen Johnson wrote: >In an 040 cube, I have 12 4mb simms for 48mb ram and I try to add >another 4 4mb simms in the last 4 slots but it only sees them as 1mb >simms. I tried switching them around and still the last 4 are seen as >1mb simms. Is there a way to configure the simms slots in the rom >monitor or something. Does the cube use standard 30 pin simms? I've stuffed a cube full with 16 4MB SIMMs with no prolems. Perhaps the SIMM sockets are damaged? -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.229.87.25!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:53:14 GMT References: <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 21 In article <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens>, Magne Jxrgensen wrote: > >I have a NeXTstation turbo. It studdenly stupped one day:-( >When I try to start it again, I got this message on the screen: > > >boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics The boot command is messed up--you want to boot sdmach, not diagnostics. Could be that the battery on the CPU board is dead, in which case you should replace it (open the box, take out old battery, take it to a camera store and get a new one just like it). Then use the "p" command to get at the ROM monitor configuration. Set the boot command to sd(0,0,0)sdmach and you should be OK. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: DSP memory Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:50:09 GMT References: <5auf04$793@netnews.upenn.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 24 In article <5auf04$793@netnews.upenn.edu>, Adam Smash wrote: >What benefits will I get by added memory to the DSP memory slot? I'm >using the sound manipulation program SoundWorks with a DigitalEars box >interfaced thru the DSP port. > If the software supports the DSP board you're using (as I recall, the one from NeXT is different from the one from CCRMA) then you can typically create more memory-hungry unit generators. >What type of memory is used in the DSP memory slot? Can I use the same >memory SIMMs as the normal 72pin SIMMS in a Turbo or Color? > It's a special board that's pretty much impossible to find. There was one from NeXT (obviously no longer made) and one from CCRMA (no longer made). There might have been a third too. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.179.144.4!cisnews.cisnet.com!usenet From: Sumair Mitroo Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cable for NeXT cube Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 14:10:58 -0500 Organization: CISNet, Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <32D3F142.771@macroi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: macro.cisnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Needed for a NeXT 040 Cube: I have a defective cable (which goes between the monitor and the cube). I am interested in purchasing this cable if anyone out there has one. Sumair Tel. 330-399-1990 sumair@macroi.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.uoregon.edu!tezcat!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Date: 8 Jan 1997 19:23:13 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5b0s71$3dj@news.next.com> References: <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens> Reply-To: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM NNTP-Posting-Host: raid.next.com "Magne J rgensen" writes > > I have a NeXTstation turbo. It studdenly stupped one day:-( > When I try to start it again, I got this message on the screen: > > > boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics > booting SCSI target 4, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd()diagnostics > Booting from SCSI target 4 lun0 > diagnostics: not found > load failed > > blk0boot: > Check the ROM monitor settings. You probably have the "run extended diagnostics" option set to YES. The system will not boot with this option set. Use the "p" command in the ROM monitor to adjust the system boot options. -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!news-2.csn.net!icarus!bff From: bff@icarus (Brendan Forsyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seagate 2Gb in Black HW Problem Date: 8 Jan 1997 19:39:42 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. +1.303.296.8202 Denver Colorado Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5b0t5u$g88@news-2.csn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.131.215.253 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I replace the original Seagate 400mb hard drive in my Color Turbo and replaced it with a Seagate Hawk 2XL. All is going fine except that the system only reports half of the drive available. It reports the correct size during boot, and when I did the install it reported the proper size of the drive but during operation it reports only one Gig. What gives? Thanks, Brendan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!10.phoenix-001.az.dial-access.att.net!user From: yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Questions about turbocolor Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:56:26 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.168.10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26516 comp.sys.next.marketplace:15935 comp.sys.next.misc:24416 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24816 Hi, I just got my Turbo Color. It is beatiful!!!. I have some questions for you guys: * It came without hard disk. I am thinking to buy an *internal* hard disk between 1.6 and 2.0 g. Does anyone can give an advise with this?? (Where to get it, price, speed, etc). * What kind of modem I can use with my turbo?? - I have a SupraExpress 288 Pnp for PC, a USRobotic 14.4 for Mac and a ISDN Motorola BitSURFER PRO for Mac.( I have an ISDN line ) Well those are my questions for now, but I am sure I will be asking more. ;-) Thank you for your advises!!! York P. Block ps. NeXT UI is better than Mac UI. However, a good combination of both would be even better!!! ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!visi.com!not-for-mail From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seagate 2Gb in Black HW Problem Date: 8 Jan 1997 20:53:27 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> References: <5b0t5u$g88@news-2.csn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: object.metaverse.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Brendan Forsyth (bff@icarus) wrote: : I replace the original Seagate 400mb hard drive in my Color Turbo : and replaced it with a Seagate Hawk 2XL. All is going fine except : that the system only reports half of the drive available. It : reports the correct size during boot, and when I did the install : it reported the proper size of the drive but during operation it reports : only one Gig. Irritating, isn't it? During installation, partition your drive into two 1G partitions. Mount one at /Local, then symlink /LocalApps and all that on to it. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!jeeves.usfca.edu!tiggr.usfca.edu!user From: david@wood.net (David R. Perry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! - My Cube is dead... Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:17:37 -0800 Organization: USF InfoTech Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tiggr.usfca.edu so, I hooked up my floppy drive and my cd-rom drive to my cube after christmas 'coz I wanted to upgrade to ns 3.2 - but the machine wouldn't boot. eventually, I unhook everything and the machine boots, but never gets past "Mounting Remote Filesystems" (of which there are none to mount). So, I boot off the OD, and find problems with the internal 330Mb drive. my question is this: do I have to do anything to the new Quantum 540Mb drive I have ready to go inside the cube for it to boot from - and can I set up a second 40Mb Quantum for swap? - If so, how do I format the swap drive? Can I just use sdform and then mv the swpfile over? David... -> David R. Perry - david@wood.net <- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Bradford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Background Patterns with 3.2? Date: 8 Jan 1997 21:55:15 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5b1543$au3@news3.texas.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: staff1.texas.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961210] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26519 comp.sys.next.advocacy:52043 comp.sys.next.software:27229 Anybody know a way I can get background images, or even just a pattern, on my NeXTStep 3.2 (moto) desktop? all I can seem to do with the "factory" software is a solid shade of grey... -- Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "I'ts hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newslist.borland.com!news@borland.com From: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Startup device Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 22:02:30 GMT Organization: Borland International Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5b15f7$6uh6@newslist.borland.com> References: <32AD91FA.2BC9@valhalla.fc.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jhuang.borland.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Russell Petersen wrote: I just got a next color station but I didn't know the password. so i took the battery out for a minute in hope that will reset its password (i read this somewhere on the newsgroup), but when i restart again, it tries to boot from the network. how do i force it to boot from the hard drive? john #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701081349.IAA29511@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: a9c4ec517a744c5839db721272799ff5 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 08:49:08 -0500 Subject: Re: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: a9c4ec517a744c5839db721272799ff5 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 41 Responding To: "Magne J_rgensen" Original Date: 8 Jan 1997 02:38:38 GMT > I have a NeXTstation turbo. It studdenly stupped one day:-( > When I try to start it again, I got this message on the screen: > > > boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics > booting SCSI target 4, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd()diagnostics > Booting from SCSI target 4 lun0 > diagnostics: not found > load failed > > blk0boot: > > > I have mounted the HD as external on a other macine of the same > kind. The first time i started up, I got the message that it had to > be repaired, and so the machine did it. Later the disk came up. And > that it did whit the next reboot also. But it does not bott up the > Next were it belongs to. > > Does you know what this can be, so please help me to fix it. I think this is a simple ROM setting. Did you set "Boot extended diagnostics: yes" ? You have to have a special program to do that, and I don't think NeXT ever released it, due to some problems with mere-mortals being able to interpret the results. Try going to the ROM monitor and check your preferences. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: memory in 040 cube Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:05:55 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5b1cp3$m5v@news.tamu.edu> References: <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ccc1.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 On 01/08/97, David Evans wrote: >In article <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu>, >Stephen Johnson wrote: >>In an 040 cube, I have 12 4mb simms for 48mb ram and I try to add >>another 4 4mb simms in the last 4 slots but it only sees them as 1mb >>simms. I tried switching them around and still the last 4 are seen as >>1mb simms. Is there a way to configure the simms slots in the rom >>monitor or something. Does the cube use standard 30 pin simms? > > I've stuffed a cube full with 16 4MB SIMMs with no prolems. Perhaps the SIMM >sockets are damaged? > >-- >David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca >Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ >University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer >Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual > I put 4mb simms in the first 12 slots and that works fine - 48mb. No simms in the last 4 slots. I power on without a bootable disk and just after the ethernet address, I get a message something like: Memory slots 12-15 configured for 4MB page mode simms but no simms installed Memory slots 6 and 7 configured for 4MB page mode simms but no simms installed 48MB RAM installed Memory slots 0-11 will show configured for 16MB page mode simms if I leave any of those out. The reference above to slots 6 and 7 could be to the NeXT Dimension board, I guess. But why does it say anything about slots being configured for a certain size simm??? I hope someone can help me figure out this mess. I'm going to try some different 4mb simms. Stephen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable for NeXT cube Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 19:49:09 +0000 Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Technical Center-Tampa, Fl Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32D3FA35.11F@sprintmail.com> References: <32D3F142.771@macroi.com> Reply-To: rehrlich@sprintmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: h248n198.a001.sprintisp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) To: Sumair Mitroo Sumair Mitroo wrote: > > Needed for a NeXT 040 Cube: > > I have a defective cable (which goes between the monitor and the cube). > I am interested in purchasing this cable if anyone out there has one. > > Sumair > Tel. 330-399-1990 > sumair@macroi.com Try http://www.deepspacetech.com . They have cables. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!nntp.uio.no!news.global-one.no!nippy1.rn.mbs.no!root From: "Magne Jørgensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:08:26 GMT Organization: MBS Fjerndata Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bbfdc2$9adbcf00$0f4deac2@mjorgens> References: <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens> <5b0s71$3dj@news.next.com> Reply-To: "Magne Jørgensen" NNTP-Posting-Host: sarp-rack1-5.rn.mbs.no X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 > Check the ROM monitor settings. You probably have the "run extended > diagnostics" option set to YES. The system will not boot with this > option set. Use the "p" command in the ROM monitor to adjust the system > boot options. THANKS:-) Now it boot. I am so happy:-)) I have tryed a lots of houers, thasnk so much:-)) Magne #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! - My Cube is dead... Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:11:53 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5b1d49$mfe@news.tamu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ccc1.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 On 01/08/97, David R. Perry wrote: ... > >my question is this: do I have to do anything to the new Quantum 540Mb >drive I have ready to go inside the cube for it to boot from - and just install the hd and then boot with cd install diskette and install on your new hd can I >set up a second 40Mb Quantum for swap? - If so, how do I format the swap >drive? Can I just use sdform and then mv the swpfile over? > If you use BuildDisk.app it should automatically setup the 40MB hd as a swapdisk Stephen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.245.3.50!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: jaydub@primenet.com (Jeff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IDE Cdrom problem Date: 8 Jan 1997 20:05:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 21 Message-ID: <32d4ce0d.512315@news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: @206.165.100.205 (jaydub) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I installed OpenStep 4.1 using solely IDE Devices, following the instructions contained in the NeXTanswers entry number 1933: EDIE/ATAPI Support in NEXTSTEP.... My CDRom is on the list of ATAPI devices as being supported. I NeXTanswers file said to select the Adaptec 154x SCSI driver during install and remove it after install. I am able to install everything okay, however, the CD rom does not appear to be recognized when the system has booted up. I realize that their is better support for SCSI devices and perhaps this is not a common problem. Any help would be appreciated. My system Intel P-90 with EIDE controllers and a Sony CDU55-E CDrom. Jeff jaydub@primenet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!ncar!newshost.lanl.gov!corvette.mst6.lanl.gov!nntp.cs.sandia.gov!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can NeXT monitor cause buggy boot? Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:46:10 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5b1f4i$q6c@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) I bought a used NeXTstation that was having intermittent problems booting, giving error messages like: Boot command: sd boot sd(0,0,0) booting SCSI target 1, lun 0 blk0 goot: sd()sdmach Booting from SCSI target 1 lun 0 READ: bad status detected in sdcmd: 0 read error load failed blk0 boot: The problem mainly occurs after powering up from a cold state. Usually, powering down and up again produces a clean boot. I sent the slab back to the seller, who, upon testing it, hasn't duplicated the error so far. Now, I know that the system requires the monitor to be plugged in to boot properly, so I am wondering if there could be a problem in the monitor causing the bad boots. Any information about NeXT hardware failure modes will be greatly appreciated. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: The Black Knight Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 22:13:16 PST Lines: 5 Sender: loki@armory.com Message-ID: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> X-Mail2News-User: loki@armory.com X-Mail2News-Path: aldebaran.armory.com X-Comment1: This message did not originate from the X-Comment2: above address. It was automatically remailed X-Comment3: by an anonymous mail service. Please report X-Comment4: problems or inappropriate use to X-Comment5: What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!toads.pgh.pa.us!investor.pgh.pa.us!rbp From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Any of the nwe ODs read Cannon? Message-ID: <1997Jan6.160939.5664@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 16:09:39 GMT Reply-To: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 17 I have heard (urban myth?) that some of the new optical drives out there can read a Cannon disc. I have a problem with my drive, and while my first goal is just to get the stuff off the discs, these new ODs have become quite popular for backups and off-line storage. Therefore, this may be a viable alternative for me. Does anybody have any first-hand experiences they are willing to pass on? Thanks -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Niesen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:18:28 +0100 Organization: NaixT - The NEXTSTEP User Group Aachen Lines: 10 Message-ID: <32D4F024.7757@imib.rwth-aachen.de> References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ohara.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) Probably the final end. :(((((( Sebastian _______________________________________________________________________________ Sebastian Niesen sniesen@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Student Of Computer Science sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de RWTH Aachen http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~sniesen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!sn.no!news-stkh.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-lond.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!netcom.net.uk!ix.netcom.com!news From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:02:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b38b5$ier@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: scz-ca18-01.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Jan 09 9:02:29 AM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) The Black Knight wrote: > > What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? > > Sebastian Niesen wrote: > > > Probably the final end. :(((((( But don't blame Apple for this. Published reports have indicated that NeXT has been trying to sell its OS business since last summer. OS/Mach 4.x shows that NeXT hasn't been expending many resources on operating system enhancements. The end was nigh regardless. Even installing 64 MB of RAM in my old Cube hasn't made it speedy enough running OS/Mach 4.1 to really be satisfactory for development, so this old hardware, as wonderful as it has been, has just about reached the end of the road. RIP :-( -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 9 Jan 97 12:32:08 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 106 Message-ID: References: <5b38b5$ier@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.179 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000C7DBB" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000C7DBB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 9, 1997 12:02 PM, Art Isbell wrote: > > What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? > > > > Sebastian Niesen wrote: > > > > > Probably the final end. :(((((( > I thought the question was more along the lines of whether Apple would release black hardware. My prediction is this: After Apple gets the software running on the PowerPC it will need a really strong marketing statement to show that it's back with force. Apple will release new PowerPC hardware that looks very much like the NeXT Cube andwill have many of the features of the Black machines in terms of true "plug and play." Let's fact it, the NeXT machines are cuttin edge industrial design, even today. I was just looking at some NeXT sales literature form 1990 and realized that there were features on the NeXT in 1990 that still haven't shown up on standard production machines any vendor. By the way, does the IBM Aptiva S series design seem familiar to anyone other than me? Mitch --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000C7DBB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 9New York 12Palatino On Thu, Jan 9, 1997 12:02 PM, --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD Content-Type: application/X-url Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Art Isbell bWFpbHRvOmFpc2JlbGxAaXgubmV0Y29tLmNvbQ== --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 12Palatino wrote: 12New York> > What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? > > > > Sebastian Niesen < wrote: > > > > > Probably the final end. :(((((( > I thought the question was more along the lines of whether Apple would release black hardware. My prediction is this: After Apple gets the software running on the PowerPC it will need a really strong marketing statement to show that it's back with force. Apple will release new PowerPC hardware that looks very much like the NeXT Cube andwill have many of the features of the Black machines in terms of 12Palatinotrue "plug and play." Let's fact it, the NeXT machines are cuttin edge industrial design, even today. I was just looking at some NeXT sales literature form 1990 and realized that there were features on the NeXT in 1990 that still haven't shown up on standard production machines any vendor. By the way, does the IBM Aptiva S series design seem familiar to anyone other than me? Mitch --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD-- --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000C7DBB-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!sn.no!news-stkh.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!feed.umontreal.ca!usenet From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Power management on Intel hardware Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:24:23 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b39k7$9cn@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: epsom.jsp.umontreal.ca X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00121-01 Hi, I recently bought an Intel based machine and installed NS3.3 on it. I saw that there is a power management section in Preference.app. What is this used for? I can only turn it on or off but I cannot configure any parameters. I tried to turn it on but it didn`t seem to do anything. I would like to put the monitor in "power saving" mode after a certain time of inactivity. Is this possible? My monitor supports "energy star" and "Eco-logic" specifications. Thank you, Francois Magnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!mars.space.ualberta.ca!sherwood From: sherwood@mars.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:43:28 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 75 Message-ID: <5b3ao0$10c0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mars.space.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26534 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24827 Hooking it up is easy. HOwever you will be disappointed with the speed with any file that contains embedded bit map graphics. The next serial port can't be driven any faster than 38,800 baud, which works out to aoubt 3.5 K /sec. So a file that includes a 500K tiff file (Not difficult to do... I had one file that ran 10 MB/page) that page will take several minutes to print. A better solution is to get a printer that is 'network ready'. HP printers can have a jetdirect card added. Lexmark sells either a native card, or a cute box that has one ethernet port, and 2 parallel ports on it. The latter solution is more expensive, a little slower, but more general in that you can use it with any parallel printer. Adding the printer is trivial. If it's a network printer, you give it a name, and an IP number, and add that information to machines in netinfo. If it's a serial printer you can add it using printer manager. Then add it to netinfo under printers as a remote printer. If the printer doesn't have a ppd file you can get one usually from ftp.adobe.com. They collect them. Walt|W|walt|Walt: \ :rm=arafel:rp=WLP:lp=:ty=QMS ColorScript 100 Model 10: \ :note=! VERY EXPENSIVE TO RUN !:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/Walt:lo=lock: The above is a printcap entry for walt, a remote printer on arafel. For a network pritner the rm=printer that is, the machine name and the printer name are the same. The ty field is the same as the PPD file, with all the _ turned to spaces. The ppd file goes in /Library/Printers/something or other. Find out where the other ones live by doing a "find / -name "*.ppd" -print" You can write a file similar to this, then load it with the command niload printcap / < filename. I find this easier than using NetInfoManager. You may have to reboot for the new printer to be recognized. BSD derived lpd daemons are a tad flakey about recognizeing changes in configuration. fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu wrote: : hi all... : My SO and I are considering buying a laserprinter (NEC 5i) for the house, : which would be connected to my mono black slab, which serves as a PPP network : gateway/router/firewall/mailserver. I've checked everywhere, but the only : discussion about adding non-NeXT printers to a slab has to do with rewiring : a serial connector. : Is it possible to add a non-NeXT printer to a black slab? What should I : ask for in the way of accessories when I purchase this beastie? Do I need : a parallel-serial converter, and the serial connector hack in the FAQ? Do : I need something else? What do I have to do on the software side of things? : We're both very excited, as this will be our first in-home laser printer, : but I'm a bit concerned, since getting the thing connected to my slab is a : big grey fog for me right now. Could someone clarify? : Thanks, : Mark : -- : fugue : "The police used to watch over the people. : Now they're watching the people." -- Sherwood Botsford | "Go to father, she said, when I asked her to wed. Physics Dept | She knew that I knew that her father was dead. U of Alberta | She knew that I knew what a life he had led. Edmonton, AB, | She knew that I knew what she meant when she said, T6G 2J1 | "Go to father." New address: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:05:45 GMT References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> <32D4F024.7757@imib.rwth-aachen.de> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 In article <32D4F024.7757@imib.rwth-aachen.de>, Sebastian Niesen wrote: >Probably the final end. :(((((( > That would be my guess. Apple has said that PPC will be its major focus, and that they're not too keen on supporting their 68k Macs. I wouldn't be too optimistic about further black releases. 4.2 may be the last (that is, if 4.2 makes it out the door). -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual avid Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Date: 9 Jan 1997 12:30:55 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5b3dgv$oro$1@Venus.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.mcs.com Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: SB16: I have the non-PnP version, but am getting no sound out of it. Do the IRQ and DMA settings need to be manually configured with the installation software, or does NEXTSTEP find and set the card up itself? Video hw: I've got a CTX 1785 GMe 17" monitor, and it works fine with the ATI mach32 or Matrox Millenium drivers at 1024x768 60 Hz ONLY. With either card, if I increase the vertical refresh to 70 or 75 Hz, the image on the monitor becomes fuzzier and dim. The same dimness problem occurs if I increase the resolution to 1184x864, any refresh rate. Is this usual for multiscanning monitors, or is my CTX just severely lacking? (According to the CTX manual, up to 1280x1024 is supported, but maybe it's just lying.) My PS/2 mouse is also faster going left than going right, which didn't manifest under W95, but I think that's enough for one day... argh. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!news.sfu.ca!cdevine From: cdevine@sfu.ca (Christopher Patrick Devine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sony MPX111 Problems Date: 9 Jan 1997 21:02:12 GMT Organization: Simon Fraser University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5b3mck$gob@morgoth.sfu.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: fraser.sfu.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I was just playing around with the floppy drive on my NeXTstation colour turbo and i ended up getting a diskette jammed into the disk drive (actually, it was the 3.3 bootdisk). When i rebooted, weird things happened and it couldn't find the disk properly and hung for a bit. Now when i reboot and pop in a diskette, it will not recognize it at all. When I checked the properties on the desktop, it said that it still scans for the diskette, just doesn't work. The boot rom manager still announces that it's found the drive, however if i go in and try to put a disk in and boot from it, it won't find the diskette at all either. even eject won't work. did i kill the drive ? should i buy a replacement ? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!jeeves.usfca.edu!tiggr.usfca.edu!user From: david@wood.net (David R. Perry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead Cube redux... Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:52:24 -0800 Organization: USF InfoTech Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tiggr.usfca.edu So, even after some very helpful suggestions from the folks out there, the cube is still bitterly unhappy. I used BuildDisk.app to create a 40Mb swap drive and a 540Mb boot drive. The problem now is that it will not boot, because fsck reports that it cannot read blocks 8,9,10,11,12,13. I further compounded the problem by booting from the OD and installing the 3.2 UpgradePrep (it was previously running 2.0) - now I can't get the machine to boot from the OD - it never gets to the windowserver... HELP! -> Can I boot my 030 Cube from the floppy? (if so, how?) David... __ _-==-=_,-. ----------------------------------------------------------- /--`' \_O-O.--< David R. Perry - perry@usfca.edu `--'\ \ <___/. Knowledge Worker - University of San Francisco \ \\ " / w:415/422-2899 f:415/422-6929 >=\\_/`< http://wood.net/~david/ /= | \_/| "Garrarumph! Playing on the 'net is what Tiggers do best!" _/=== \___/ ----------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.177.127.11!news.sojourn.com!usenet From: stimpy@castlerock.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXT Laser printer problems, help please? Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:07:10 GMT Organization: none Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5b488e$200@tkhut.sojourn.com> Reply-To: stimpy@castlerock.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ld-nas-008.sojourn.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) Hi. My laser printer has recently decided to print a wide black smudge/smear thing on the first page of a printout, sometimes going on to teh second page (as it fades out).... I have only seen this on the last 3 times I have printed with it, I am afraid to keep trying things worried I could make it worse.... anyone ever see this, any ideas? it just happened all of a sudden.... thanks gary ________________________________________________________________ gcl@mail.sojourn.com NeXTmail/LipService is prefered Founder: The NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List Owner: Network with a NeXT '040 Cube #4173 running NeXTstep v3.3 and a Intel i486dx2-66 running NeXTstep for Intel v3.3 _________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: no Direct-X compliant driver for Miro Crystal32S video Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:10:01 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b48dp$rea@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu I posted this article to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video, but I am also posting it here since many people who hung out in the group 2 1/2 years ago had this particular video card when it was the best available and compatible card for NEXTSTEP. ----- My video card is a Miro Crystal 32S (4MB PCI). It's based on the S3 928. I buoght it 2 1/2 years ago, at wihch time it was top-of-the-line. Miro's Win95 driver is not Direct-X compliant, and the company has told me that they don't plan to write a Direct-X compliant version since they are no longer selling the card (at least in the US). Does anyone else have this card and is there any way to get Direct-X to work with it? Is there a Direct-X compliant generic S3-928 driver, and is it possible to use this instead of Miro's driver? Or even the generic VGA driver? Or am I just out of luck until I buy a newer video card? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: will NS3.3 Matrox Millenium driver work with NS3.2? Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:14:41 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b48mh$ri9@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu I've got a NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2 system with a Miro Crystal32S video card. I'm thinking about buying a newer video card in order to use Direct-X applications in Windows95. The compatibility guides in NextAnswers seem to only go back to NEXTSTEP 3.3 and don't mention NEXTSTEP 3.2. In general, will a video driver from NextAnswers that claims to be for 3.3 work with 3.2 as well? Specifically, does anyone know if the Matrox Millenium driver will work with 3.2? Even though I am a student, $300 to upgrade to 4.0 or 3.3 is too much. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:46:44 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5b4aik$29s@news.us.net> References: <5b3dgv$oro$1@Venus.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.92 font@MCS.COM (Font) wrote > Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: > Video hw: I've got a CTX 1785 GMe 17" monitor, and it works fine with > the ATI mach32 or Matrox Millenium drivers at 1024x768 60 Hz ONLY. > With either card, if I increase the vertical refresh to 70 or 75 Hz, > the image on the monitor becomes fuzzier and dim. The same dimness > problem occurs if I increase the resolution to 1184x864, any refresh > rate. Is this usual for multiscanning monitors, or is my CTX just > severely lacking? (According to the CTX manual, up to 1280x1024 is > supported, but maybe it's just lying.) It's probably your CTX. For instance, my Idek 8617 17" monitor is rated for better than 1280x1024 and it will hold that image properly. However, it's really too fuzzy to be useful at that resolution. I usually use it at 1152x864 or 1120x832 for a decent picture. So, even if a monitor supports 1280x1024 @ 75hz (the electronics on the monitor will display that bandwidth), one still has to look at the resulting picture on the tube. Personally, I like the Nanao T2-17 series with the nice Trinitron tubes. .Bill Chin bchin@us.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!tezcat!gail.ripco.com!news.wwa.com!news From: Peet Dale Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep/Mac 4.1 on a dual ppro system? Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 21:19:24 -0600 Organization: GIDI Lines: 15 Message-ID: <32D5B53B.12E1@gidi.com> Reply-To: dale@gidi.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pool1-066.s-isdn.wwa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Next says that openstep/Mach 4.1 WILL NOT run on a dual pentium pro system UNLESS one pulls out one of the processors. Does anyone know of a workaround or can disprove this as a falicy? *** I know that openstep does not yet have SMP capability, but what I am after here is just using a single processor on my dual box (like win 95 does now) **** PLEASE oh PLEASE let me know as I want to buy and load it but cannot pull out CPUs because I also run Solaris and NT on the same box. Please reply via email to dale@gidi.com as I don't read news often enough! -Peet Dale #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Daisho Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is the best solution for a portable NeXT Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:46:26 +0000 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 1 Message-ID: <32D59162.7100@earthlink.net> Reply-To: daisho@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cust63.max21.washington.dc.ms.uu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; U; 68K) OK what's the best solution for a portable NeXT computer #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.fast.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Daisho Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT & Bitsurfer ISDN Adapter Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:44:30 +0000 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 3 Message-ID: <32D590EE.7457@earthlink.net> Reply-To: daisho@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cust63.max21.washington.dc.ms.uu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; U; 68K) OK want to connect my neXT to an ISDN line was thinking about the the motorolla bitsurfer input anyone #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!spring.edu.tw!news-peer.nctu.edu.tw!news.nctu.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.hinet.net!netnews.hinet.net!news From: batmon@abico.com.tw (Mon-Sen Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to do the backup with Exabyte Model 8500? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:24:23 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32d607a3.24511376@netnews.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.69.238.57 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Hi all, We have just find a EXABYTE Model 8500 SCSI Backup device in our office, and would like to use it to backup NeXT Server. I buy a new 2GB 8mm DAT tape which will insert to the EXABYTE backup system, and would like to use it for backup. Can anybody tell me how to write out the "dump" command on the NeXT to do the full backup? In addition, if I would like to continue use the same tape (don't rewind after the full backup) and make another backup just backup users' information, users home directories' data, and directories' sturcture, then how should I write the "dump" command? And how to write the command to restore the data? If there is any good very easily understand refence about how to do the backup, please let me know too. Thank you. Best Regards, ·¨©s¾Ë¡]batmon¡^ batmon@abico.com.tw Ability Enterprise Co., Ltd. Part of ABiCO Group #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Date: 10 Jan 1997 01:44:55 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5b4s1n$a8i$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <5b3dgv$oro$1@Venus.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.mcs.com font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: >Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: >SB16: I have the non-PnP version, but am getting no sound out of it. >Do the IRQ and DMA settings need to be manually configured with the >installation software, or does NEXTSTEP find and set the card up >itself? NEXTSTEP finds the card fine. The DIAGNOSE.EXE utility passes the card on all tests, with default settings (220/330/IRQ5/DMA1,5). And still no sound under NEXTSTEP with 3.30 and 3.32 drivers. Blech! For my next trick, I'll ask if anyone has gotten a SB 16 clone such as the Shark Multimedia Mako II to work under NEXTSTEP with the SB 16 driver. (It's PnP, though, so maybe sound is a lost cause.) -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701091417.GAA27547@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: eb6eb2526783d6055391b130c4c3e5ab - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 09:16:47 -0500 Subject: swapfile and swapdisk questions (Re: HELP! - My Cube is dead...) Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: eb6eb2526783d6055391b130c4c3e5ab - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 33 Responding To: david@wood.net (David R. Perry) Original Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:17:37 -0800 > can I set up a second 40Mb Quantum for swap? 40meg is hardly a lot of swapspace these days, but to each his own. > If so, how do I format the swap drive? just like any other drive. Label it 'swapdisk' > Can I just use sdform and then mv the swpfile over? I would recommend not moving the existing swapfile as doing so would likely freeze your system. For more information on the swapdrive and swapdisk, see my FAQ at my NeXT Web page (http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat/next) or send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-mime swapfaq.ps.gz (or if you can't receive MIME, use "send-uuencoded swapfaq.ps.gz") TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701091421.GAA27902@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 5615b9aedc4e842c6eecfbf0f0b33e91 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 09:21:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Startup device Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 5615b9aedc4e842c6eecfbf0f0b33e91 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 24 Responding To: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Original Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 22:02:30 GMT Message-ID: 5615b9aedc4e842c6eecfbf0f0b33e91 - > Russell Petersen wrote: > I just got a next color station but I didn't know the password. so > i took the battery out for a minute in hope that will reset its > password (i read this somewhere on the newsgroup), but when i > restart again, it tries to boot from the network. > > how do i force it to boot from the hard drive? in the ROM monitor, change the boot device from "en" to "sd" (Ethernet to scsi-drive) You might also want to turn on verbose booting, I find it invaluable when problems occur. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701091419.GAA27687@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 234e8a51cd842dff449e5f6066e27681 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 09:18:40 -0500 Subject: Re: Background Patterns with 3.2? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 234e8a51cd842dff449e5f6066e27681 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 26 Responding To: Bill Bradford Original Date: 8 Jan 1997 21:55:15 GMT > Anybody know a way I can get background images, or even just a > pattern, on my NeXTStep 3.2 (moto) desktop? all I can seem to do > with the "factory" software is a solid shade of grey... Sure, use Fiend.app. If you don't already have it, you can find it by sending me an email with the SUBJECT search-peak -c Fiend which will give you a case-sensitive list of search results of the FTP server, which would look something like this: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/latest_versions/Fiend.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/Fiend.1.4.1.NIHS.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/Fiend.1.4.1.README TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: dozer@netwizards.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: would you be my friend? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:03:28 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5b50ke$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cust2.max1.santa-clara.ca.ms.uu.net Hello, I'm 14 years old and I think I may be a gay. I'm looking for some support and friendship with a older male age 18-40. Please email if you can help. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!mordred.cc.jyu.fi!cyberspam!usenet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dozer@netwizards.net Subject: cmsg cancel <5b50ke$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Control: cancel <5b50ke$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: Approved: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Reply-To: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) X-Cancelled-by: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Followup-to: junk References: <5b50ke$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:03:28 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 1 Spam-cancel: "would you be my friend?" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!phcoms4.seri.philips.nl!news From: Stefan Holzinger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead Cube redux... Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:13:54 +0100 Organization: Philips Dictation Systems Lines: 39 Message-ID: <32D60852.2C06@austria.ds.philips.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pc62.at.ds.philips.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) David R. Perry wrote: > > So, even after some very helpful suggestions from the folks out there, the > cube is still bitterly unhappy. > > I used BuildDisk.app to create a 40Mb swap drive and a 540Mb boot drive. > The problem now is that it will not boot, because fsck reports that it > cannot read blocks 8,9,10,11,12,13. I further compounded the problem by > booting from the OD and installing the 3.2 UpgradePrep (it was previously > running 2.0) - now I can't get the machine to boot from the OD - it never > gets to the windowserver... HELP! > > -> Can I boot my 030 Cube from the floppy? (if so, how?) > > David... > __ _-==-=_,-. ----------------------------------------------------------- > /--`' \_O-O.--< David R. Perry - perry@usfca.edu > `--'\ \ <___/. Knowledge Worker - University of San Francisco > \ \\ " / w:415/422-2899 f:415/422-6929 > >=\\_/`< http://wood.net/~david/ > /= | \_/| "Garrarumph! Playing on the 'net is what Tiggers do best!" > _/=== \___/ ----------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm in similar troubles (though it's only a monostation). Suddenly my 400 MB Seagate reported media error on block xy. I even tried reasb. This should do the trick if it's really a meadia error: it tells the drive to use one of the spare blocks nearby. Well, my seagate used another unusable block. Retrying didn't work either. Hmmmm... Does anyone have a good idea? Reformat (low format)? Make two partitions with some spare in the middle for the damaged section? If so, how? (disktab entries are complex!) What else? Stefan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!EU.net!sun4nl!phcoms4.seri.philips.nl!news From: Stefan Holzinger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead Cube redux... Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:14:42 +0100 Organization: Philips Dictation Systems Lines: 39 Message-ID: <32D60882.1944@austria.ds.philips.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pc62.at.ds.philips.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) David R. Perry wrote: > > So, even after some very helpful suggestions from the folks out there, the > cube is still bitterly unhappy. > > I used BuildDisk.app to create a 40Mb swap drive and a 540Mb boot drive. > The problem now is that it will not boot, because fsck reports that it > cannot read blocks 8,9,10,11,12,13. I further compounded the problem by > booting from the OD and installing the 3.2 UpgradePrep (it was previously > running 2.0) - now I can't get the machine to boot from the OD - it never > gets to the windowserver... HELP! > > -> Can I boot my 030 Cube from the floppy? (if so, how?) > > David... > __ _-==-=_,-. ----------------------------------------------------------- > /--`' \_O-O.--< David R. Perry - perry@usfca.edu > `--'\ \ <___/. Knowledge Worker - University of San Francisco > \ \\ " / w:415/422-2899 f:415/422-6929 > >=\\_/`< http://wood.net/~david/ > /= | \_/| "Garrarumph! Playing on the 'net is what Tiggers do best!" > _/=== \___/ ----------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm in similar troubles (though it's only a monostation). Suddenly my 400 MB Seagate reported media error on block xy. I even tried reasb. This should do the trick if it's really a media error: it tells the drive to use one of the spare blocks nearby. Well, my seagate used another unusable block. Retrying didn't work either. Hmmmm... Does anyone have a good idea? Reformat (low format)? Make two partitions with some spare in the middle for the damaged section? If so, how? (disktab entries are complex!) What else? Stefan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!merlin!ekotan From: ekotan@merlin (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:56:19 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5b5ap3$cu5@news.next.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: merlin.next.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Ian Stephenson (ians@cam-ani.co.uk) wrote: : If you're looking to "get into" NeXT development then the Black machines : are a bargin, and will remain viable as desktop machines for some time. : Put the PC in the cupboard under the stairs, and access it remotely from : something that looks nice! Yes, that would be the best of both worlds, network them together, use the black box as a terminal to the PC and run all your Apps on the PC then display the output on the NeXT computer. It would involve buying two machines, but definitely the way to do it if you're a no-compromise, and money is no object sorta person ;-} : Mac users will find the Black machines "just work". Hacking together a : good PC is possible, but setting up a good Black machine involves plugging : it in. I agree 100%, I also love black hardware, but I like fast computers even better, so a compromise is to get a well-designed PC like a Compaq Deskpro 2000 which will perform really well and also won't cause much trouble if trying to setup OPENSTEP. Of course, as Ian says, black boxes are much cheaper and offer real plug and play, as opposed to PCs plug and pray. Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan - NeXT Software (UK) Limited oh, one moment, it's Apple now The best friend money can buy ObjectLine Support E-mail: Eren_Kotan@next.com - WWW: http://www.next.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Bradford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT & Bitsurfer ISDN Adapter Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:19:20 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5b5mlo$hbr@news3.texas.net> References: <32D590EE.7457@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: staff1.texas.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961210] Daisho wrote: : OK want to connect my neXT to an ISDN line : was thinking about the the motorolla bitsurfer : input anyone The NeXT cannot do the 57600 or 115200 serial port speed required by the BitSurft; I've tried it. Best way to do ISDN with a NeXT is to use an Ascend Pipeline 25/50/75. I have a 25 at home, and it works great. -- Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "Its hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news From: Jason Lincoln Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Some NeXTstation peripheral questions? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:44:57 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Lines: 18 Message-ID: <32D60F99.6FEC@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: reserved-dhcp-44-66.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) The following questions concern a NeXTstation/68040/25 Mono. 1. The system uses ADB(Apple Desktop Bus) right? I connected my mac mouse to the NeXTstation and it worked fine. Can I also use a Macintosh modem cable to connect the NeXTstation to a mac external modem? 2. What is the type of SCSI port found on the back of the NeXTstation? I plan on buying an external CDROM and external case for a hard drive and need to know what type of SCSI interface that is when buying the cables. 3. Do you have any information regarding companies who can help me with NeXTstation modem or external SCSI device questions? 4. Do you know if a SCSI Jazz or Zip drive works with my NeXTstation? Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Power management on Intel hardware Date: 9 Jan 97 20:32:04 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5b39k7$9cn@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-18-2.access.one.net In-reply-to: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca's message of 9 Jan 1997 17:24:23 GMT In article <5b39k7$9cn@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA>, magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) writes: I recently bought an Intel based machine and installed NS3.3 on it. I saw that there is a power management section in Preference.app. What is this used for? I can only turn it on or off but I cannot configure any parameters. I tried to turn it on but it didn`t seem to do anything. I would like to put the monitor in "power saving" mode after a certain time of inactivity. The power saving functions don't really "do" anything, they just enable your system's BIOS power management to work. You need to go into the BIOS setup screen (usually "DEL" soon after power on or reset), and muck about. Careful, though! Certain modes might cause your machine to power off more than you really want. For instance, you probably don't want to spin down the hard drive (bad, BAD), and you also probably don't want to power down your network and other cards. My machine uses Award BIOS, which gave me "Doze", "Standby" and "Shutdown" modes, with timeouts for each. Beyond that, I could tell it when the monitor is powered down, using DPMS (and some other options). In "Shutdown" mode, I found that I couldn't do network stuff with the machine. I now have it set to go into "Doze" mode after a couple hours to power off the monitor, and disabled the other power management modes. Works much better. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 9 Jan 97 20:46:32 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <5b38b5$ier@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-18-2.access.one.net In-reply-to: "Mitchell Allen"'s message of 9 Jan 97 12:32:08 -0500 In article , "Mitchell Allen" writes: I was just looking at some NeXT sales literature form 1990 and realized that there were features on the NeXT in 1990 that still haven't shown up on standard production machines any vendor. By the way, does the IBM Aptiva S series design seem familiar to anyone other than me? I know that this is probably not how you meant that remark, but ... A number of people have been making a similar comment, and your's just pushed me over the edge. I think that these new IBM machines only look slab-ish from a _very_ great distance. The monitor holder is not nearly so fluid as NeXT's, and you _still_ have the damned CPU box (though I suppose you can hide it behind your desk, now). Has anyone noticed the blatant penis-envy design of most current Intel boxes? As if it wasn't bad enough to have giant boxes which are four times as big as they need to be for the functions they supply ... now we have to have giant speaker "wings" hanging off the monitor, and all sorts of gadgetry hanging off the front of the boxes. And what gadgetry! As if we really need to be reminded "I have a floppy drive and a 29x CD-ROM". Whoop! Whoop! How many times does one use a floppy drive? Once a week? Once a _month_? Ever notice how many pizza box machines push the floppy and CD-ROM off to the side, where you don't notice it until you want to use it? Does _your_ television have giant speaker wings hanging off of it? Or perhaps a "TI Inside" logo? And all sorts of buttons. How many times a week should we expect to need the reset or power switches? Do we need them often enough to make them large and easily pressable, placing them into dangerous front-panel space? And if we _do_ need them that often, doesn't that say something? [This is my main peeve. Those handle of times I need to use my floppy, I have to reach across my reset and power switches to get there due to my machine's placement. I'm _strongly_ tempted to home-build a pair of switches for the back of my case so as to disconnect the front panel versions.] I suppose a system with more-or-less hidden speakers and hidden removable disk access and whatnot wouldn't scream out "Look what _I_ bought". Sigh, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!shelob.afs.com!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <587851299369@digifix.com> Date: 10 Jan 1997 16:42:13 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 347 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <475852914532@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:52616 comp.sys.next.announce:4006 comp.sys.next.hardware:26560 comp.sys.next.software:27302 comp.sys.next.misc:24551 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24846 comp.sys.next.bugs:4155 comp.sys.next.programmer:21508 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.interport.net!ilank.port.net!user From: "Colonel Hogan" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: modem for NeXTstep Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:38:12 +0000 Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ilank.port.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.0 (22) I am looking for a standard modem for NeXT box that I just bought. Is there such an animal? What are my telecommunications options with this machine? Current Mac user. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!en.com!news.dgsys.com!usenet From: Robert Nicholson Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Urgent questions on Toshiba's Deskstation V+ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:53:51 -0500 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Lines: 10 Message-ID: <32D6903F.189F@elastica.com> Reply-To: robert@elastica.com NNTP-Posting-Host: justine.elastica.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: Robert Nicholson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (WinNT; I) X-Priority: Normal Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.laptops:93822 comp.sys.next.hardware:26562 I have some questions about the Deskstation V+ with the Tecra 720CDT 1. How good is the video performance? A friend runs his with a Elsa Winner 2000 card and it really bites. He can see windows redrawn at 1280x1024. Anybody using one with a Matrox Millenium 4MEG card? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 10 Jan 97 17:14:00 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <5b5ap3$cu5@news.next.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.50.154 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Fri, Jan 10, 1997 6:56 AM, Eren Kotan wrote: > Yes, that would be the best of both worlds, network them together, use the > black box as a terminal to the PC and run all your Apps on the PC then > display the output on the NeXT computer. It would involve buying two > machines, but definitely the way to do it if you're a no-compromise, and > money is no object sorta person ;-} How would the speed be on a setup like this. I'm currently running a Mac network over ethernet with Filemaker Pro 3.0 serving some DB to a few networked Macs and it's abysmally slow. All these machines are PPC machines except the server which is a IIfx. Is NeXTStep better at client/server applications? Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!dciteleport.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!grannyb.etude.com!jnielsenmac.andersencorp.com!user From: "johan" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:06:16 -0500 Organization: NITC Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: jnielsenmac.andersencorp.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.0 (22) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26564 comp.sys.next.misc:24564 In article , jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) wrote: > If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it possible to > print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up to the NeXTstation? Or > is there any other way to get from the Mac to the NeXT printer? > > Any help is much appreciated. > > john > > --- - ------- ------- > You're not going crazy, you're going sane in a crazy world! - The Tick > > jak@asu.edu > http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ InterCon has software to facilitate lpr and NFS communication between a Mac and systems that support these protocols. Check out http://www.intercon.com. Johan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.cuhk.edu.hk!news.erg.cuhk.edu.hk!maews5!skwong From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to use JAZ on NeXT ? Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:24:14 GMT Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5b5muu$ijm@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> NNTP-Posting-Host: maews5.mae.cuhk.edu.hk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I bought a JAZ and tested on Mac, OK. I connected it to my NeXTcube turbo running NS3.2 . The cartridge was bought preformatted with Mac format. While the cartridge is inserted into the JAZ on NeXT, it is mounted automatically to the NeXT in Mac format. Then I tried Disk->Initialize... After a while, NeXT reported error and eject the disk. I remembered 2yrs ago, I saw a post said that the JAZ is compatible with NeXT. Can you tell me what's wrong with me ? Do I need to do some low level reformat before the Initialization ? And how to do it ? Or is there any FAQ discussion on it ? Thanks in advance. Mr.Sai-Kee Wong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!usenet From: Calvin Lui Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to buy a Next Mouse? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:49:53 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Lines: 8 Message-ID: <32D6E3B1.41C6@leland.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lele-iris2.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; IRIX 5.2 IP12) CC: luical@leland.stanford.edu Hi, Does anyone know where I can buy a Next Mouse? Thank you. Calvin Lui (luical@leland.stanford.edu) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701101405.GAA20955@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: ae3ac2caf9022211222ae678f96edb5f - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 09:05:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Q: NeXT Laser printer problems, help please? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: ae3ac2caf9022211222ae678f96edb5f - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 25 Responding To: stimpy@castlerock.com Original Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:07:10 GMT > I have only seen this on the last 3 times I have printed with > it, I am afraid to keep trying things worried I could make it > worse.... > > anyone ever see this, any ideas? > > it just happened all of a sudden.... Sounds like what happened when my toner started to die. I know it seems a little weird, but replacing the toner cart did it. Before you ask: toner cartridge for HP Laserjet II, IID,III, IID HP ref : HP 92295A TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat For info on my email auto-responder and searching the PEAK FTP site via email, send me an email with the SUBJECT "send-help" (without the " marks, of course ;-) ^^^^^^^ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701101401.GAA20726@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: a9b00cd95d7e79a40eaac7c07ff0a276 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 09:01:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: a9b00cd95d7e79a40eaac7c07ff0a276 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 25 Responding To: "Mitchell Allen" Original Date: 9 Jan 97 12:32:08 -0500 Message-ID: a9b00cd95d7e79a40eaac7c07ff0a276 - > I was just looking at some NeXT sales literature form 1990 and > realized that there were features on the NeXT in 1990 that still > haven't shown up on standard production machines any vendor. Just curious for a "such as....." > By the way, does the IBM Aptiva S series design seem familiar to > anyone other than me? First thing I thought when I saw it..... except for that puny little monitor (and no Laser Printer, I'm sure) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat For info on my email auto-responder and searching the PEAK FTP site via email, send me an email with the SUBJECT "send-help" (without the " marks, of course ;-) ^^^^^^^ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news From: Jason Lincoln Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS Installation FAQ? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:02:43 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Lines: 5 Message-ID: <32DB4BB3.55E1@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsxy014e-ppp-17.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Is there a NeXTSTEP installation FAQ for Black hardware? Thanks, Jason #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news From: Jason Lincoln Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: NS Install on New HD? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:59:36 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <32DB4AF8.1C6A@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsxy014e-ppp-17.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) I have a NeXTstation mono with a 100MB internal hard drive that I would like to replace with a 1GB Seagate ST31230N. The new SCSI hard drive mounts fine but I do not know how to install NeXTSTEP onto it. I have NS 3.0 on cdrom and I have a NEC 6x SCSI cdrom connected to the NeXTstation and it works with the 100MB drive with NS loaded. When I boot with the new hard drive I get to a ROM monitor and I type b to boot. It examines the SCSI devices and then tries to load off of the cdrom and then craps out. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jason #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!not-for-mail From: "Brian Heugly" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT for sale Date: 11 Jan 1997 05:24:30 GMT Organization: ArosNet Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <01bbff7f$eb7407c0$5218adcf@aros.net.aros.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm3-17.slc.aros.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 I have some cubes and stations for sale. They are 040 the cubes have 300meg HDD and 16 meg RAM. The stations have 100 meg HDD and 8 meg of RAM. They come with 17" grayscale monitors, mice, and keyboard. They have NeXTstep 3.3 OS. I also have alot of extra keyboards. Make me an offer. Questions E-mail to bheugly@aros.net Thanks Brian #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsg#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news1.best.com!nntp1.best.com!usenet From: "D. Scott" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStation Need Help Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:15:11 +0000 Organization: M+ Lines: 22 Message-ID: <32D6BF6D.598C@netuser.com> Reply-To: dscott@netuser.com NNTP-Posting-Host: scott.netuser.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; U; 68K) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24854 comp.sys.next.hardware:26573 I just purchased a NextStation that I have been able to boot, but unable to get into the system since I bought it used from a broker. I have read most of the newsgroup messages listed in these two forums and tried www.next.com to get answer with no luck. Can someone help in these areas? How do I get around the Graphical USER and PASSWORD to reset it for my own use and delete all other users. Where would I find software for this system, maybe CD or floppies? Does it cost?? Where would I find the System Admin manuals, I only have the User Guides. Any suggestions for software available? I am just using it to explore the Next Station. Any help is appreciated. Dale Scott dscott@netuser.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!dciteleport.com!usenet.logical.net!node2.frontiernet.net!news.his.com!news.walltech.com!hsnx.wco.com!news.wco.com!news From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Some NeXTstation peripheral questions? Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 21:57:33 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Lines: 52 Message-ID: <5b92e0$130@news.wco.com> References: <32D60F99.6FEC@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: octans63.wco.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Jason Lincoln wrote: >The following questions concern a NeXTstation/68040/25 Mono. > > 1. The system uses ADB(Apple Desktop Bus) right? I connected my mac > mouse to the NeXTstation and it worked fine. Can I also use a > Macintosh modem cable to connect the NeXTstation to a mac external > modem? Ah, you have one of the rare 25 MHz machines with the Turbo chipset. Unlike earlier systems, almost all the Turbo systems can support ADB with the proper Monochrome monitor or sound box, and cable from the slab to the monitor or sound box. The serial ports use a DIN-8 connector, but also support hardware flow control. For best results, you'll wand a custom cable. A few folks on the Web sell these, or you can get one custom made. (See the manual page for 'zs', the serial ports. Type 'man zs' in a Terminal window or use Digital Librarian to look this up in the 'man pages'.) > 2. What is the type of SCSI port found on the back of the > NeXTstation? I plan on buying an external CDROM and external case for a > hard drive and need to know what type of SCSI interface that is when > buying the cables. That's a SCSI-2 cable connector. > 3. Do you have any information regarding companies who can help me > with NeXTstation modem or external SCSI device questions? There may be some consulting companies out there, but this is in general the right place. Timothy Luoma has assembled a bunch of links to good information on his web page at: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/ > 4. Do you know if a SCSI Jazz or Zip drive works with my NeXTstation? Zip drives work right out of the box (except for removing that pesky software write protect from their 'utility' disk so it can be recycled.) Jazz drives seem to need a disktab entry (a Unix incantation that tells the OS about the drive geometry) There's a link to the information on the web page above, or you can search NeXTAnswers at http://www.next.com/ Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!melba.bby.com.au!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!mordred.cc.jyu.fi!cyberspam!usenet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: richsign@ms9.hinet.net (Jonny Huang) Subject: cmsg cancel <5bdg27$qpt@netnews.hinet.net> Control: cancel <5bdg27$qpt@netnews.hinet.net> Message-ID: Approved: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Reply-To: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) X-Cancelled-by: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Followup-to: junk References: <5bdg27$qpt@netnews.hinet.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:26:06 GMT X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 1 Spam-cancel: "Wish to export Mold Making/Molding/Assembling, Plastic Injection & Die Casting to Worldwide" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!agate!cocoa.brown.edu!cfm.brown.edu!andrew From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:33:00 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bbhps$64v@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cfm.brown.edu In article <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com>, The Black Knight writes: |> |> What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? |> If the "NeXTstation Power" starts at $5,000 it means nothing. (except for the NeXTcult members :). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!cocoa.brown.edu!cfm.brown.edu!andrew From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:42:21 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bbibd$64v@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> <5bbhps$64v@cocoa.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cfm.brown.edu In article <5bbhps$64v@cocoa.brown.edu>, andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) writes: |> In article <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com>, The Black Knight writes: |> |> |> |> What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? |> |> |> |> If the "NeXTstation Power" starts at $5,000 it means nothing. |> (except for the NeXTcult members :). Whoops! I what was I thinking? Please disregard. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PD drives on black?? Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:53:15 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: aragorn185.nuts.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) My cube's original MO drive is finally too unreliable for daily backups, after almost eight years of good service. I also am getting tired of life without a CD-ROM drive. So, here is what I need: * A drive that#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!swidir.switch.ch!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!Austria.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!xs4all!ztm07-06.dial.xs4all.nl!user From: rr@xs4all.nl (rr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Q:mac to NeXT/Sun video (DB15-13W3) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:04:50 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Lines: 39 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ztm04-27.dial.xs4all.nl X-XS4ALL-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:08:54 MET Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26583 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43590 Hi, couple a days ago I asked around if there was anybody who had succesfully connected a macintosh to a (21") NeXT MegaPixel display. Nobody seemed to have any real answers. However I did get a lot of responses from people who are interested in this. I've looked around and found a DB15-13W3 ( the latter being the one on the MP) mac to *Sun* video cable. Has anybody tried this (on a Sun or a NeXT) ? How different is the pin-out of the Sun monitors from the NeXT ? Here's the pinout for the NeXT color ( thanks to Kevin Coffee) Pin Signal 1 +12V 2 PWR Switch 3 Mon Clk 4 Mon Data Out 5 Mon Data In 6 -12V 7 GND 8 GND 9 GND 10 GND A1-inner Red Video A2-inner Green Video A3-inner Blue Video A1-outer Red Video GND A2-outer Green Video GND A3-outer Blue Video GND Shell chassis GND The A-x numbers are the coaxial connections. I'm wondering what the Sun color pin-outsare. I'm not much of an expert on this kind of talk. Is there anybody outthere who is and can help me out ? Help is much appreciated. rr #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!netcom.com!cdouty From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:33:59 GMT Lines: 37 Sender: cdouty@netcom8.netcom.com In article <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, Jiunn-jye Huang wrote: > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing >with Dimension? I don't have a Matrox Millenium, but rather a Diamond Stealth 64 Video 3400. However, you are asking the wrong question. I get NXbench results ranging from 1.8 to 2.(something) for the Diamond card. The best I get from my dimension is 0.7 or so. The immense difference in processor and bus speed between the average Intel box and even a Turbocube makes this a non-comparison. Even on the dimension most DPS rendering is done by the '040. I believe that the dimension merely (!) moves and scales graphics in onboard RAM once they were initially rendered by the '040. This accounts for its excellent performance on the fairly slow NeXTbus. All PC cards are much less capable in terms of acceleration, and they don't have the huge backing store that the dimension uses. The Window Server backing store is all in main memory, but a PCI bus is much faster. It is interesting to note that you must have a CPU 2x to 3x faster than the old black hardware before video performance becomes acceptable. :-) Get a PPro, high end video card, and a lot of RAM, if you must have hardware while waiting for Rhapsody. #8^) -Chris Douty -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: 14 Jan 97 10:52:20 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-9-11.access.one.net In-reply-to: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw's message of 14 Jan 1997 11:50:59 GMT In article <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) writes: I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing with Dimension? I'd expect the Millenium to be much faster for _most_ uses. The PCI local bus is substantially faster than the cube's bus was (PCs can't keep up in realtime - but over the course of eight years, well, they can certainly catch up!). And a Pentium 133 should pretty easily be able to outrun a 25Mhz '040 + i860. Put the Millenium on a 200Mhz Pentium Pro, and there really won't be any comparison. [I can't compare side-by-side, but performance benchmarks has always indicated that the Dimension was slower than the mono machines almost across the board. They were pushing 16x the data, though! But my P133+Millenium does graphics something like 3x faster than my mono Turbo, and a Pentium Pro 200 should easily double that again.] Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!newsfeed.intelenet.net!newshost.neptune.net!usenet From: Georgie Corona Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Workstation For Sale Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:16:54 -0800 Organization: Neptune.Net (Neptune Consulting Group, Inc.) Lines: 6 Message-ID: <32DB24D6.5679@neptune.net> Reply-To: gcorona@neptune.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp204.neptune.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) NeXT Color Workstation; 16mb mem, 400mb disk, 17" MegaPixel mon, sound box, mouse, keyboard, floppy drive,manuals, developers kit, lots of software, spare parts: mouse, floppy drive, batteries, etc. All in xlnt condition. $650.00 obo Call 714-893-5498 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: black hardware: SCSI2 Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <5bde41$4na@decaxp.harvard.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:52:00 GMT Lines: 35 In article <5bde41$4na@decaxp.harvard.edu> ylee@brauer.harvard.edu writes: > I would like to know what kind of external HD can be > used with an old NeXTstation. There is an S#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-22.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!usenet From: Brian Sutherland Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:27:31 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Lines: 20 Message-ID: <32DBFA43.6F91@onramp.net> References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Reply-To: rmaniac@onramp.net NNTP-Posting-Host: help12.onramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: Jiunn-jye Huang Jiunn-jye Huang wrote: > > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and > NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, > so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing > with Dimension? > Did anyone try both configuration? > -- > ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang > Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ > ===============================#========================================= > Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw > National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! > 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang > Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 > 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server > ===============================#========================================= I have tried both. I can't give a real good comparison but let me say that I am still have my Dimension and I am selling my Matrox tomarrow. -Brian #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: 15 Jan 1997 02:27:15 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5bhfa3$jue@news.us.net> References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) wrote: > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing >with Dimension? On Intel machines, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP does not utilize any hardware acceleration operations on today's video boards. Instead, it completely relies on the CPU to do all the drawing and bandwidth from system memory to display memory (usually across the I/O bus, such as VESA or PCI) determines the other part of the video speed question. On a NeXTdimension system, the i860 processor on the dimension board is tapped to do some operations, however the Postscript window server still runs on the 68040 CPU. That means that for some operations, especially complex Postscript drawing, an Intel Pentium or better will easily outperform the NeXTdimension due to pure CPU horsepower difference. Also, for pure video bandwidth, PCI outperforms the NeXTbus, again weighing in favor of the PC's. 3DKit graphics and some NXImage operations may be faster on the NeXTdimension however. That is why the NXBench results are better on most PC's with local bus video. This is especially noticable if you run X, Executor, or SoftPC on the NeXTdimension. Finally, while there is only one way to screw up the performance of a NeXTdimension (namely, configure a mono monitor as the main monitor), there are a multitude of ways to configure fast components to run slowly on the Intel side. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!hone!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:04:25 GMT References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, Jiunn-jye Huang wrote: > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing >with Dimension? The ND NXFactor's at around 0.7, and I see PCs with 2+ ratings all the time. The Mullenium's supposed to be quick, so I'd guess it'd be in the higher range of PCs. Way faster than the ND is my educated guess. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!netcom.com!cdouty From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:14:09 GMT Lines: 15 Sender: cdouty@netcom8.netcom.com I know it's bad form to reply to your own posts, but I had to get one more word in. I've never been unhappy with my dimension. A fast PC gets better numbers, and I do all my compiles there, but the ND "feel" is wonderful. I hooked a modern monitor (Ilyama VisonMaster Pro 17") to it, and it was so clear and sharp that I nearly cried. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.global-one.no!ns2.image.dk!usenet From: lkjensen@dannug.dk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:37:40 GMT Organization: Image Scandinavia Lines: 63 Message-ID: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> Reply-To: lkjensen@dannug.dk, lkilsaa@image.dk NNTP-Posting-Host: globip55.image.dk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Hi I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. I am using the following equipment: Asus P6NP5 (440FX chipset) with a 150Mhz Pentium Pro 32 MB RAM Quantum Fireball TM 3.2GB SCSI (1.5GB used for NeXTSTEP) DPT PM2044W PCI SCSI controller Matrox Millennium 2Mb WRAM PCI Pioneer DRU124X SCSI CDROM SoundBlaster AWE32 ADI Microscan 5A monitor The problem is that almost every time, when I am trying to load NS, the monitor shows a kind of black screen , when NS is finished loading and should showing the login window. The monitor shows a black screen some kind of horizontal "stripes", and if I login to NS (in blind), there are a lot more "stripes", but still no picture. If I use the default video driver it worrks fine, but it is not a very pretty resolution:-)) When I first installed NS and changed the video-driver to Matrox it worked fine, but the next day the problems started. Later I disconnected the CD-ROM drive, and NS worked fine - for a moment, but after two logins, the problem started again. I have also tried with a EIDE CD-ROM drive (Creative 8xspeed), but the same problem occurred. I am loading the following drivers: Matrox MGA Millennium (2MB) (v3.30) PS2 Mouse (v3.32) DPT 2x24/3224 PCI SCSI Adapter (v3.32) SoundBlaster 16 (v3.30) EIDE And ATAPI Device Controller (v3.34) Intel 824X0 PCI host Brigde (v3.31) ISA/EISA Bus support (v3.35) PCI Bus Support (v3.30) PS2 keyboard (v3.30) Floppy Disk Drive (v3.30) On-board serial Ports(v3.30) On-Board parallel port(v3.30) I have also tried the 3.31 version of the Matrox driver, but I think threre are more problems with this driver, because it doesn't specify any Memory Range in the Configure.app I hope there is some one who has a solution to this problem? And is this problem general for NS3.3/intel or is it the Matrox Millennium and driver? Thank You Lars Kilsaa Jensen E-mail: lkjensen@dannug.dk (no NeXTMAIL) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uuneo.neosoft.com!news From: buddyc@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:31:36 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <32DC0948.2269@ibm.net> References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Reply-To: buddyc@ibm.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.109.153.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) David Evans wrote: > > In article <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, > Jiunn-jye Huang wrote: > > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and > >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, > >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing > >with Dimension? > > The ND NXFactor's at around 0.7, and I see PCs with 2+ ratings all the time. > The Mullenium's supposed to be quick, so I'd guess it'd be in the higher range > of PCs. > Way faster than the ND is my educated guess. running both ... the Matrox (4MB) is speedier. I would agree that it is over 2x as fast. Call me crazy but I really prefer to work on the ND ... I have a great Intel setup (20" sony, 200pp) but it truely lacks the elegance of black hardware ;-) Keep in mind that the ND actually runs the Display PostScript interpreter on the 040 and simply uses the i860 to draw rectangles and images on the screen. Buddy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!news From: "T.E. Biesinger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: IBM ThinkPad 560 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:59:35 +0000 Organization: Cambridge University Engineering Department Lines: 29 Message-ID: <32DD4537.22B1@eng.cam.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: punch.eng.cam.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/715) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26595 comp.sys.next.software:27359 Hi! Does anybody else use an IBM ThinkPad 560 running OPENSTEP 4.0 out there? I would like to make your contact anyway to exchange experience. Here are some of my problems: 1. I am having trouble with the power mode switching using eg Fn 11 for hybernation mode. All others Fn keys work as root only! 2. The pg up and pg down keys do not work. 3. The CD player using the ESS driver set to 'CD' as input does nothing. 4. The power management does not seem to exploit the power saving functions of the hard disk switching it off when not needed. The cannot be set in the preferences either. Thanks a lot! -- --- Dr. Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. PGP-2.6.i key available! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!brokaw.wa.com!not-for-mail From: James Kniest Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Desperately Seeking SIMM Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:05:54 -0800 Organization: kniest Lines: 10 Message-ID: <32DC81D2.2977@halcyon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: evt-mx100-ip30.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) I need a 32K DSP SIMM upgrade. Anyone want to sell one? I'll even consider buying the whole box for it. Thanks, Jim Kniest (kniest@halcyon.com) 747 Puget Lane Edmonds, WA 98020 (206) 487-7052 (days) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Date: 15 Jan 1997 18:24:30 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 103 Message-ID: <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: legume186151.nuts.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > When it comes right down to it, you really only have one dimension > for decisions - how important is your data? Say your system dies > without backup. How much would you pay to get the data back? > Nothing? $1k? $100k? $1M? That's why I'm leery of tape. Magnetized heads, _touching_ my data, sliding back and forth for hundreds of feet on a thin oxide layer. Yuck. Also, with tape one completely gives up the capability to boot from the medium in an emergency, which one tends to need at just the same time one needs a good backup.... > From there, consider convenience. Any backup device which cannot > contain your _entire_ system is a compromise. Any time you have > to pick and choose what to backup, you are taking the chance that > you'll forget something important. If you have to swap tapes/carts > to complete the backup, you'll never reliably do the backups. > If you can just pop the tape in and leave for supper or whatever, > that's a big advantage. Strongly agree with all of this. I've been doing good incremental autobackups to oppies since mid-1992, with a series of scripts that pretty much make sure I can always restore my system to its state of 12 hours ago, and get back any file that was around a week, a month, or three months ago. I have been profoundly anal in segregating /Local* from the system distribution, so I would of course get the latter back from CD-ROM, once I buy one of _those_. People who were in on the Great Disk Deal of 1994 will remember that I lost my primary hard drive, with _zero_ warning, in the midst of shipping boxes all over the world. I lost about two hours of work, most of which I succeeded in reconstructing from memory and email. Anyway, nowadays my filesystem is a bit bigger, about 1.1 GB of user files. My level-0 backup gzips to about 370 MB, and the script has to dip temporarily into 104%-full territory on the hard drive to break it up into pieces that will fit on one oppy. This is such a pain that it's been months since I've done a level-0, and the incrementals, which run without my interference, are themselves getting big. Plus, the oppy itself is getting unreliable, so it's time for new hardware. I think I can live with half-gig media, but as you say there are obvious advantages to larger ones. > Today, you can get a $300 SCSI Travan which can hold 2Gig, while > DAT drives are still up around $700. OTOH, Travan carts are $30, > DAT carts are under $10. This is the part I don't get. Why are people saving data to tape, when it appears to have a thousand times the failure rate (per read) of optical media, and MO drives are $500 with $30 cartridges? If tape drives were $140 and tapes were $5, it might make sense to me. Or if I had _so_ much data that everything but media cost was trivial. > "subject to getting tangled and torn"? That's a longshot. If the > drive has a mechanical failure, then it's unlikely _any_ choice will > save the media currently in the drive. But my music tape drives have had mechanical failures at least five times in the last twenty years, and I've _never_ seen a music CD get scratched by the read head. Aren't the computer versions fundamentally the same sprocket and read-head technology? > Tapes are intrinsically archival. Serial access is an _advantage_ > for backup media (specifically, "backup" implies that you aren't > going to be storing files you frequently need to access on the > tape). Scott, I respect your opinions a lot, so I'd like to understand your reasoning here. What possible advantage does it confer to have my data sitting in magnetic contact with other data on a mechanically-wound reel, instead of on a platter where I can get at it and it can't corrupt itself? Assuming in the worst case that the data will be in a gzipped tarfile, so that random access is not an option, isn't the random-access medium _still_ at least as good a purely serial medium as the tape is? > In my opinion, if you want to use a removable as a backup device, > Syquest is the worst option (winchester based), Iomega is better > (floppy based) and MO is best (optical). You want things to be > robust. This is certainly in line with my own thinking, though I've heard passionate defense of both SyQuest and Jaz since my original posting. I am now leaning toward a cheap Sony CD-ROM and a 640-MB DynaMO, but before I dismiss the PD drives (or for that matter CD-R technology, which I have heard rumors we can't use) I would like to hear whether anyone has tried these alternative optical technologies. The PD drives do seem to be a slight win on price. > Again, if you're going to use it as a backup device, I highly > recommend making sure it's large enough to contain your entire system. Doing that without compression is a luxury that I haven't had for at least five years now, given the 230 MB size of the NeXT oppies. I'll have to think about how to balance that convenience against affordability and emergency bootability, as well as random access. But I _will_ be doing twice-nightly backups by script, even if the medium requires me to tie up my processor's 'nice' cycles gzipping the way I do now. So the argument that inadequate space will lead me to cut corners is moot. Give me five minutes to |==================================================== check news and log out, | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu THEN you can dial 911. |==================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: marcel@sysyem.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seagate 2Gb in Black HW Problem Date: 15 Jan 1997 07:51:05 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bi299$jog$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> Reply-To: marcel@sysyem.de NNTP-Posting-Host: marcel.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de In article <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> dwy@ace.net (David Young) writes: > Brendan Forsyth (bff@icarus) wrote: > : I replace the original Seagate 400mb hard drive in my Color Turbo > : and replaced it with a Seagate Hawk 2XL. All is going fine except > : that the system only reports half of the drive available. It > : reports the correct size during boot, and when I did the install > : it reported the proper size of the drive but during operation it reports > : only one Gig. > > Irritating, isn't it? > > During installation, partition your drive into two 1G partitions. > Mount one at /Local, then symlink /LocalApps and all that on to it. Hmm, this is the Seagate Hawk on my cube: Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 1890644 1330001 371578 78% / /dev/sd0b 138957 9 125052 00% /clients /private/vm/swapfile 1890644 1330001 371578 78% /private/vm/swapfile.front So, although my disk is also partitioned, it certainly has more than one gig in the primary partition. I have to admit that I don't know why the first poster is having problems. Marcel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!rjacobs.Stanford.EDU!rob From: "Robert G. Jacobs" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Toshiba Tecra -- dual boot Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:57:08 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rjacobs.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a single partition now on my Tecra with NS 3.3 on it. I need to run some Win95 programs and am weighing my options. If I don't want to reinstall NS then I can't use the current internal hard drive, right? Another option is to buy a second internal hard drive, install Win95 on it, and swap when I want to run Win95. Any problems with that? The last option I've thought of is to buy an external hard drive and do the same. First, can I get one for the Tecra and second, can I fairly simply configure the machine to boot off the external hard drive? Any other options? Thanks for any help. Robert #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 88e0446dab54c17e86540df75cadd690 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 15:33:59 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 88e0446dab54c17e86540df75cadd690 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 26 Responding To: Daisho Original Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 06:20:46 +0000 > I noticed someone had a few for sale around here > was wondering what the bottom line was on them > ISDN adapter was black and I am not sure who makes them but it was > sold by Nextconnection (when it was) in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people have reported success with them). Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP program (as far as I know it) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a NeXTStep|OpenStep web page, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!dtinews!taurus!news5-tokyonet!tokyonet.ad.jp!wnoc-tyo-news!aist-nara!odins-suita!orions-news!icluna!methuss!murao From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 05:26:33 GMT Distribution: comp Reply-To: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp Content-Type: text/plain References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Computer and Systems Engineering, KOBE University, JAPAN X-Newsreader: NewsBase3.0R2 Enhanced Release2 Lines: 13 Hi, We have both the NS/Intel (Pentium 166MHz) with Matrox Millenium and NeXT Cube Dimension in our institute. I've never measure their performance index. However, definitely NS/Intel machine is faster. It seems that the display performance mostly depends on the CPU performance. --- Hajime MURAO NeXT/MIME mail bienvenu! A professional? No, I am not professional. I am an amateur. "Amateur" comes from the latin "amare":to love. If you do not love what you do, you do not deserve to do it. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!pacbell.com!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdcc12.ucsd.edu!uape-15.ucsd.edu!llay From: enigma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anybody else have problems w/ SCSI on NSFIP 3.2? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:22:40 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 25 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: uape-15.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a general question, actually. I've been trying to reinstall NSFIP 3.2 back on my computer; however, I wasn't able to because of what appears to be SCSI connection problems. I have DPT SmartCache III with 3 SCSI HD, 1 Syquest 105 drive, 1 SCSI Zip Drive, and a SCSI CD-ROM drive. I do not understand why NS is so sensitive (or should I say over sensitive) to SCSI configurations and errors. For example, on my initial trial, it keeps giving me read block errors when reading from the CDROM (with no medium in the two removable drives). Later, with the two removable drives disconnected, trying to install NSFIP, gave me kernal panic and hence failed; with the two removable drives connected and media inserted in them, the installation then proceeds haphazardly without error. The reason I wonder about NS's over sensitivity to SCSI is that I also have Linux installed--and it gave me absolutely no error nor failure. Is this because of the brand of SCSI card that I'm using? or is my assessment correct about NS's over sensitive to SCSI? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Hacking a NeXT mouse cable Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:55:58 GMT References: <32DCF6BF.6DDE@imma.org> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 In article <32DCF6BF.6DDE@imma.org>, Dave Johnston wrote: > >Why, after opening my NeXTstation to look at the memory configuration, >does it always boot into the ROM monitor and deliver me an error which >resembles: > >"default boot device not found" > Perhaps you need to set the boot command to "sd" using the p command. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!news.sfu.ca!not-for-mail From: oneill@cs.sfu.ca (Melissa O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Are 4x9 60ns 30pin *3-Chip* SIMMS okay for NeXTstation 25Mhz? Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:41:49 -0800 Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC, Canada Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5bk81t$6vm@alonzo.cs.sfu.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: alonzo.cs.sfu.ca Summary: Want to be sure I buy the right thing... What with the Apple/NeXT merger, I figure I should wait a little longer before buying a new machine, and so to get more life out of my aging NeXTstation I'm going to give it more memory, going from 20MB to 32MB. Checking prices I see that 4x9 60ns 30pin *3-Chip* parity SIMMS are cheaper than the 4x8 70ns 30pin 8-chip non-parity SIMMS that are usually recommended (well, 80-100ns are recommended, but I don't know that such things can be bought new any more). However, I seem to remember seeing someone say that the tried the 3-chip variety of SIMMs and had problems, which seems to go against my intuition since I'd have thought the 3-chip kind would be functionally equivalent to the 9-chip kind. SO, I'm hoping to hear from some people out there who have experience either way... Advice of any kind welcome... Melissa. P.S. Similarly, I believe that it doesn't hurt that the SIMMs are 60ns (60ns seems to be as cheap as 70ns), but I'd appreciate it if someone could confirm this too. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701151341.FAA17243@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 8af66466c8f903d0053172e014beb7ed - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:40:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Beginner questions Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 8af66466c8f903d0053172e014beb7ed - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 20 Responding To: Bill Bumgarner Original Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:53:29 -0500 > Lynx and pgp have both been compiled for NS-- anyone have URLs? Well, FTP sites can't put PGP on them since the DOD doesn't want anyone getting their hands on it. You can get it directly from MIT though... lynx you can get in this folder: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/lynx/ TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!van-bc!n1van.istar!van.istar!west.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!news From: martin.boucher@cgocable.ca ($$$ EASY MONEY $$$) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.transputer,comp.sys.unisys,comp.sys.xerox,comp.sys.zenith.z100,comp.terminals,comp.terminals.bitgraph Subject: $ Take 5 minutes to read this and it WILL change your life $ Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:34:56 GMT Organization: cgocable Lines: 166 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5bkem0$fah@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> Reply-To: mboucher@cgocable.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: 45-148.dr.cgocable.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:4159 comp.sys.next.hardware:26606 comp.sys.next.marketplace:15998 comp.sys.transputer:4128 comp.sys.unisys:7177 comp.sys.xerox:1379 comp.sys.zenith.z100:634 comp.terminals:6948 comp.terminals.bitgraph:54 $$$$$$ $50.000 for the New Year $$$$$$ Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. 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TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!!! :)))) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.transputer,comp.sys.unisys,comp.sys.xerox,comp.sys.zenith.z100,comp.terminals,comp.terminals.bitgraph,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <5bkem0$fah@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <5bkem0$fah@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> no reply ignore Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: Semi-Automatic Chain Letter Remover Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 05:37:39 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: a X-Cancel-Xref: 25794 Sender: martin.boucher@cgocable.ca ($$$ EASY MONEY $$$) X-Orig-Subject: $ Take 5 minutes to read this and it WILL change your life $ Lines: 11 ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm J. Porter Clark, d/b/a The Unknown News Administrator #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PC Mouse with black Hardware Date: 16 Jan 1997 14:21:33 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 176 Message-ID: <19970116142100.JAA20830@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <32DDEC42.50E1@stud.phys.ethz.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Here's some information on this which I saved from a while back. William pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) wrote: >pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) wrote: >>Some time ago a have seen an offering of an adapter that makes it >>possible to use a standard PC-mous on a black NEXT. >>Does anyone know where i can get such a convertor, >>or does anyone have a schematic of how to make such >>a converter? >>Pleace Email to: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net. >>P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. >>Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo >>Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands >>-- >==================================================================== >from: http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.098.html >5.24 What are the NeXT mouse connections? >mouse, connector Read the following instruction. >Thanks to Alvin Austin (austin@cs.USask.Ca) I have the information I >need on the NeXT mouse connections. > Pin Function > 1 +5v > 2 X Encoder Phase A > 3 X Encoder Phase B > 4 Y Encoder Phase A > 5 Y Encoder Phase B > 6 Right Button > 7 Left Button > 8 Ground >P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. >Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo >Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands >-- ===================================================================== From a Logitech WWWW page: Logitech Pointing Device Hardware Information Product Support Document # 1410 The following are the pin-outs for Logitech mice as documented in the Logitech Mouse Technical Reference and Programming Guide. Note that the wire colors are provided only for the bus mouse. Wire colors are not available for serial or pix-port mice. Serial Mouse Logitech's Type M, Type V and Type W serial mice are available with either a standard RS232C subminiature DB9S female connector compatible with the IBM AT, or an adapter for a DB25S subminiature female connector compatible with the IBM PC/XT. 9 pin 25 pin Wire Name Comments shell 1 Protective Ground 3 2 Receive Data Serial data from host to mouse 2 3 Transmit Data Serial data from mouse to host (for power only) 7 4 RTS 8 5 CTS 6 6 DSR 5 7 Signal Ground 4 20 DTR RTS = Request to Send CTS = Clear to Send DSR = Data Set Ready DTR = Data Terminal Ready To function correctly, both the RTS and DTR lines must be positive. The lines DTR-DSR and RTS-CTS must NOT be shorted. Implement the RTS toggle function by setting the RTS line negative and positive again. The negative pulse width is at least 100ms. After a cold boot, the RTS line is usually set to a negative level. In this case, setting the RTS line to a positive level is also considered an RTS toggle. Bus Mouse The Logitech bus mouse has a male D-subminiature or a male miniature circular connector, similar to the Microsoft InPort connector. Wire Mini-DIN Logitech Microsoft Color Pin P-Series Signal InPort Signal Black 1 +5V +5V Brown 2 X2 XA Red 3 X1 XB Orange 4 Y1 YA Yellow 5 Y2 YB Green 6 Left SW1 Violet 7 Middle SW2 Gray 8 Right SW3 White 9 GND Logic GND SHIELD shell chassis chassis PS/2 (PIX) Mouse The mouse cable assembly has a six pin miniature circular (mini-DIN) plug for attaching to the host. Pin Wire Name 1 DATA 2 Reserved 3 Ground 4 +5V Supply 5 CLK 6 Reserved Shield Chassis Bi-directional transmission is controlled by the CLK and DATA lines. Both are fed by an open collector device which lets either host or mouse force the line to "0". During non-transmission, CLK is at "1" and DATA can be at "0" or "1". The host can inhibit mouse transmission by forcing CLK to "0". If the host inhibits the mouse while it is transmitting, the byte must be retransmitted (if the inhibit state arrived before the 11th clock). ========================================================================== ====== Seems to me that, using a Logitech Bus mouse you have to make the following conversion NEXT Wire Mini-DIN Logitech Microsoft Pin Function Color Pin P-Series Signal InPort Signal 1 +5v Black 1 +5V +5V 2 X Encoder Phase A Brown 2 X2 XA 3 X Encoder Phase B Red 3 X1 XB 4 Y Encoder Phase A Orange 4 Y1 YA 5 Y Encoder Phase B Yellow 5 Y2 YB 6 Right Button Gray 8 Right SW3 7 Left Button Green 6 Left SW1 8 Ground White 9 GND Logic GND Not Used Violet 7 Middle SW2 Not Used ?? SHIELD shell chassis chassis P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands -- William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news1.best.com!idiom.com!idiom.com!jcr From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Possible to use monochrome monitor on color turbo (non-adb) Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:02:12 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <5bgg6d$jot@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) writes: >Is it possible to use a monitor from a turbo monochrome on >a color turbo? My monitor needs replacement and a used one >costs too much. No. -jcr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!cbgw2.lucent.com!cbgw1.lucent.com!cnn.Princeton.EDU!usenet From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Date: 16 Jan 1997 14:35:47 GMT Organization: Princeton University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5blec3$mrg@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: Reply-To: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) NNTP-Posting-Host: zandtwerk.princeton.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) Cc: nineteen@onramp.net In Richard C. Logan wrote: > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? > In comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? Plug'n'play. Even easier than a zip (but both are easy) because it has standard size scsi connectors and the included disk is not software write protected. Fast, quiet. Beats zip by large margins in performance, but the EZ drive and disks are bulkier and heavier and less widespread than zip. Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701151353.FAA17785@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 09c97b53ed816bf30d4d99ac14cf6236 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:52:44 -0500 Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 09c97b53ed816bf30d4d99ac14cf6236 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 46 my .02: CD-ROM: I have el cheapo CD-ROM that I got awhile back and it has worked fine (never played music through it, I've got a stereo for that about 3 feet from here) Internal Sony 4x CD-ROM (# CDU76) (pay no more than $100) AND External case for above CD-ROM (#CS-EXTDR1) ($48) Call 1-800-REAL-PCS (ASA Computers). I'm using this CD-ROM and case, and so is someone else I met here, and no problem whatsoever. (those prices may even be lower now) === BACKUPS: I've got a nightly backup script that I wrote working with my SyQuest EZ135 drive. It is designed to backup all the files which have changed since the last time the backup was run, and it works fairly well (ie no problems since November). The EZFlyer230 will cost you around $230 after the $55 mailin rebate (offer ends Feb 28th) NOTE: goto http://www.syquest.com and checkout the rebate form and the trade in offer (ie they will give you $100 for any old drive towards the purchase of a EZFlyer, the drive doesn't have to work!!!!!!!!) No, you _can't_ get the mailin rebate and the trade-in offer The EZFlyer is truly p&p w/NeXT hardware, no disktab, etc. There's also the SyJet 1.5gig/cart that sells for $500 (external, I think the internal is $400, again, see their web page). Both of these are going to be as fast as your hard drive, or even faster. Just my thoughts. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701151355.FAA17924@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 7d321434e621bc0e08c212be61608ece - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:55:06 -0500 Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 7d321434e621bc0e08c212be61608ece - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 21 Responding To: nineteen@onramp.net (Richard C. Logan) Original Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:28:43 -0600 > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a > NextStation? yes, it can, no disktab needed. You just plug in and go. Were I to buy a drive today, I'd probably go for the EZFlyer230 (see my other post "re: PD Drives on Black??" that I just sent off for more) which also "just works" with NeXT hardware. let me know if you need more info, I've got an EZ135 right here TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.icm.edu.pl!ict.pwr.wroc.pl!news.apk.net!jchan From: jchan@apk.net (Jerome Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TouchScreen on OpenStep/Mach for Intel machine? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:39:20 -0500 Organization: TofuSoft Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pm5-21.apk.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Is it possible to hook up a touch screen to an OpenStep/Mach for Intel machine? --- The Evil Tofu (Only Human) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!news.io.com!fnord!news.fc.net!digdug.pswtech.com!usenet From: robin@pswtech.com (Robin Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:50:00 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5blm7o$q72@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomp.pswtech.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) lkjensen@dannug.dk wrote: } Hi } } I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. } } I am using the following equipment: } } Asus P6NP5 (440FX chipset) with a 150Mhz Pentium Pro } 32 MB RAM } Quantum Fireball TM 3.2GB SCSI (1.5GB used for NeXTSTEP) } DPT PM2044W PCI SCSI controller } Matrox Millennium 2Mb WRAM PCI } Pioneer DRU124X SCSI CDROM } SoundBlaster AWE32 } ADI Microscan 5A monitor } } The problem is that almost every time, when I am trying to load NS, } the monitor shows a kind of black screen , when NS is finished loading } and should showing the login window. The monitor shows a black screen } some kind of horizontal "stripes", and if I login to NS (in blind), } there are a lot more "stripes", but still no picture. } } If I use the default video driver it worrks fine, but it is not a very } pretty resolution:-)) I doubt it is the Matrox _driver_. It might be your settings, what resolution, pixel depth and refresh rates have you tried? I'd recommend going with lower refresh rates and see if that helps. Also, try getting the latest Matrox driver from NeXTAnswers. Even the Beta drivers are quite reliable. Are you running the OmniPentiumPro driver? I've had similar problems when trying to get it configured... Send me e-mail if you are still stuck... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Message-ID: <1997Jan16.111500.291@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: jburton@nwu.edu Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:15:00 GMT Lines: 19 A cheap backup solution I'm using: I run a Linux box with a QIC-80 Tape which you can buy for around 150$. The new Travan tapes can store several Gig and cost around 30$. The Linux ftap-driver works perfectly. The whole thing is not really fast, but for backups adequate. I do once per month a complete backup which takes about 4 hours / 800MB (using compressed afio) and some incremental Backups between. I regard this solution more reliable than the NeXT OD. BTW: Using Linux afio, even if the tape has some fault, afio can skip the damaged part and recover almost everything. This is *much* better than doing a huge tar.gz over the disk. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Message-ID: <1997Jan16.111910.354@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:19:10 GMT Lines: 20 In <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the > shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP > you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial > port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people > have reported success with them). > > Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might > work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP > program (as far as I know it) TTYDSP is connected to the DSP port, not the serial port. BTW: Every NeXT-hardware can run the serial ports at 57600, but you get overrun errors from time to time. This might not be too bad if you have the right software. Just try it. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.glink.net.hk!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fast ROM-password removal (Was: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem.) Date: 16 Jan 97 10:27:28 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-17-27.access.one.net In-reply-to: rdieter@math.unl.edu's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:56:53 GMT In article <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu>, rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes: In article <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) wrote: > > In article , > > Peter Nitezki wrote: > > >2. "Standalone boot is guarded by a password you dont know". > > > Pull the power cord, open the box and remove the lithium > > > battery on the main board for an hour or two. > > For immediate results: using a bent paperclip or small screwdriver, > > short the contacts in the batteryholder together for a few seconds. > > Voila! No password. > Voila! Fried hardware. In my experience, it only takes 10-15 minutes after you remove the bettery to rest the hardware password. But, but, what if The Bad Guys are after you, and you only have a couple seconds? You don't have time to wait for the capacitor to drain! So you use the paper clip trick, start the boot (aha, no boot password), and ... dammit, fsck, we don't have time for fsck. It's booting again, arggghhh! Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Date: 16 Jan 97 10:23:47 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 70 Message-ID: References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-17-27.access.one.net In-reply-to: jburton@nwu.edu's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:24:30 GMT In article <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > Today, you can get a $300 SCSI Travan which can hold 2Gig, while > DAT drives are still up around $700. OTOH, Travan carts are $30, > DAT carts are under $10. This is the part I don't get. Why are people saving data to tape, when it appears to have a thousand times the failure rate (per read) of optical media, and MO drives are $500 with $30 cartridges? If tape drives were $140 and tapes were $5, it might make sense to me. Or if I had _so_ much data that everything but media cost was trivial. One reason is probably that a $600 DAT can write a 2G uncompressed tape in one sitting, and with compression you can reasonably expect 3G (and if you're compressing text only, 4G or more :-). If you are only archiving 500M, well, it doesn't make much difference either way. So far as the failure rate, the way I look at it is that MO is likely to be online an order of magnitude more than something like tape. The only time my tapes are online is during the backup (and during a restore, of course). If you treated your MO as if it were a tape, then you're safe enough, naturally. But I'm not willing to recommend it in a public forum because I suspect that too many people would compromise the archival nature of an MO by using it as an extension of their random access media. This is all somewhat mooted if you have something with a WORM style filesystem and the appropriate OS support. If you can only write the media once, right there you've done yourself a tremendous favor! I wish that CD-R worked that way. > "subject to getting tangled and torn"? That's a longshot. If > the drive has a mechanical failure, then it's unlikely _any_ > choice will save the media currently in the drive. But my music tape drives have had mechanical failures at least five times in the last twenty years, and I've _never_ seen a music CD get scratched by the read head. Aren't the computer versions fundamentally the same sprocket and read-head technology? I can't say much to that, as I don't have much experience with music tapes _or_ CDs. OTOH, part of the reason DATs are expensive is because they don't share parts with consumer electronics. CDs probably do, but I don't know about MOs and the like. > Tapes are intrinsically archival. Serial access is an > _advantage_ for backup media (specifically, "backup" implies that > you aren't going to be storing files you frequently need to > access on the tape). Scott, I respect your opinions a lot, so I'd like to understand your reasoning here. What possible advantage does it confer to have my data sitting in magnetic contact with other data on a mechanically-wound reel, instead of on a platter where I can get at it and it can't corrupt itself? This is probably mostly IMHO. With tape, the data will be sitting spooled on a reel - but the tape itself is likely to be sitting in a drawer with other tapes, rather than in a drive or on your desk. MOs and other removable media are more likely to be in the drive itself, a much more dangerous position. I guess I like tape because it removes the temptation entirely, rather than requiring discipline on the part of the user. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: system hangs while booting Date: 16 Jan 97 10:31:19 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-17-27.access.one.net In-reply-to: far@ix.netcom.com's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:53:37 GMT In article <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) writes: I must admit I am still amazed that a failure in the control circuitry of one SCSI drive could cause the problems I saw. I've found that NeXTSTEP is pretty sensitive to SCSI issues. My first Intel system, a 486, built by a crapball company, had a flakey SCSI disk (or controller, or whatever). It would work fine for long periods, and then it would have severe bouts of flakiness. I did some reformatting and reinstalling, and that would often fix it for awhile, but I suspect that it was some borderline problem, because it never just got to where it _worked_. Got the drive replaced, and then it worked fine. Never did figure out the exact interaction that was going on, though. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!mindspring!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news.service.emory.edu!news.cc.emory.edu!not-for-mail From: suzawa@curly.cc.emory.edu (Satoru M. Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:51:31 -0500 Organization: Emory University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5blpr3$4f0@curly.cc.emory.edu> References: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: curly.cc.emory.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] lkjensen@dannug.dk wrote: : Hi : : I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. : : Lars Kilsaa Jensen : E-mail: : lkjensen@dannug.dk (no NeXTMAIL) I had the exactly the same problem with my Intel machine running 3.3p1. I have Millennium with 4MB and Symbios810 based SCSI card. I had video card in the first PCI slot and SCSI card in the second and got the problem described by you. Changing PCI slots to 3rd for SCSI card and 4th for video card auto-magically fixed the problem. I'm not sure why it could fix the problem but I suspect something with Matrox driver (I'm using 3.31), PCI driver and Plug-n-Pray. Hope that your problem would be fixed in same manner. Good luck! Satoru Uzawa, uzawa@uclink4.berkeley.edu (No NeXTmail yet) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: giddings@barbarian.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Working PM on portables (Tecra in particular)? Date: 17 Jan 1997 00:30:38 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Lines: 33 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bmh7e$1b5u@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: giddings@barbarian.com NNTP-Posting-Host: animas.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) I have a tecra 720cdt and the biggest annoyance, by far, is the fact that suspend/resume doesn't work under NeXTStep. It wouldn't be so bad except that at random times my bios seems to reset to power-off-resume mode so that when I next try to power it on, I have to go through a 30 minute fsck cycle. I really would like a working APM under NextStep, so much so that I have started gathering information to write a driver myself. There's one crucial piece missing - information about the mach kernel's interaction with APM. I have tried to get this from NeXT, and even though my sales rep there promised support on this issue when I signed up and paid a gob of money to them, he recently told me they won't give that info out. So, I'm hoping for one of two things: 1) That someone out there has figured out the kernel calls for APM 2) That others besides myself bombard NeXT with email, making it clear that APM support is important to them. I think one of the reasons NeXT tech is so reticent is that they aren't aware of anyone besides me clamoring for better power management support. It may really help motivate them if I wasn't the lone voice. Please email NeXT if this is important to you. Specifically, ask_next@next.com and feedback@next.com Thanks -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!gina.zfn.uni-bremen.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!newscaster-1.mcast.net!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!newslist.borland.com!news@borland.com From: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:55:05 GMT Organization: Borland International Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5bmijt$7d5@newslist.borland.com> References: <5blec3$mrg@cnn.Princeton.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: jhuang.borland.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 well, how about a old syquest 44? would it work? john tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) wrote: >In Richard C. Logan >wrote: >> Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? >> >In comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: >> Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? >Plug'n'play. Even easier than a zip (but both are easy) because it has >standard size scsi connectors and the included disk is not software >write protected. Fast, quiet. Beats zip by large margins in >performance, but the EZ drive and disks are bulkier and heavier and >less widespread than zip. >Tim >-- >Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu >Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz >Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 >Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!newscaster-1.mcast.net!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.serv.net!usenet From: thrall@serv.net (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need NS portable info Date: 17 Jan 1997 02:39:10 GMT Organization: ServNet Internet Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5bmooe$2b5@brockman.serv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup109.serv.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00107-01 I am thinking of getting a portable computer to run NeXTSTEP4.x and Win95 (yuck) and was wondering if someone could pass along any experiences with running NS on a laptop. Thanks for your time, dean #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc3.nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701161811.NAA11237@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: <9701161119.AA00344@gamelan.shnet.org> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 13:08:27 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> <9701161119.AA00344@gamelan.shnet.org> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 29 Responding To: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Original Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 12:19:10 +0100 Message-ID: <9701161119.AA00344@gamelan.shnet.org> > TTYDSP is connected to the DSP port, not the serial port. Oh duh, I knew that. I claim temporary stupidity due to final exams. Thanks for the correction > BTW: Every NeXT-hardware can run the serial ports > at 57600, but you get overrun errors from time to > time. This might not be too bad if you have the > right software. Just try it. It seemed to me that the overruns were contributing to panics when I ran my port at 57600, so I dropped it down to 38400. Anyway, now I am thinking that someone said that ISDN didn't use TTYDSP anyway..... ugh. I'll see if I can find the post I was thinking of when I started this whole thing. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.algonet.se!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-Recordable? Date: 17 Jan 1997 04:30:03 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5bmv8b$1r4k@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Question: I bought a NeXT Station from a clearence at a University. This machine came with a 3.0 CD and a licence for 3.3. I have managed to secure a 3.3 disk temporarily, so I would like to make a copy of it. (This is legal right?) Unfortunately NT/95 won't read the disk. So is there freely available burning software that will run under 3.3 or 3.0? or is there Software for NT/95 that will let me copy a next CD-ROM? Thanks, Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114@cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!tezcat!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.149.24.18!excalibur.flash.net!ultranews.duc.auburn.edu!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Over-clocking ADB 'stations? Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:47:56 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <32D60F99.6FEC@us.oracle.com> <5b92e0$130@news.wco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5b92e0$130@news.wco.com> The recent talk about the differences between older NeXTstations and ADB models (which use the turbo chipset) has got me thinking... Has anyone tried overclocking a 25 Mhz station with the newer Turbo-style chipset? I winder if the internal timing would work at 33 Mhz (provided the '040 can handle it). hmmm... -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!swidir.switch.ch!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!news.mcgill.ca!news From: jake@hep.physics.mcgill.ca (Jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color Station memory question Date: 15 Jan 1997 21:18:24 GMT Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.physics.mcgill.ca X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hello everyone, A friend of mine bought some time ago a used Color station, non-turbo. Wanting to add to the memory he opened the case to figure out what kind and how many slots he had. As it turns out, he has 8 72-pin slots, something I have never heard of before. The board also has a rather large chip with RAMDAC written on it, something I don't recall having seen the last time I opened the case on my mono station. This leads me to suspect that what he has is in fact a station box with a cube board in it. The Rom monitor memory command reports slot content in pairs, and knows there are indeed 8 slots. There is a mixture of parity and non-parity ram, but the owner has never reported any necessity of nursing the boot process in any way. Also, if you're still with me, the NeXTAnswers report on memory upgrades reports that 8MB is the largest SIMM size that can be installed. This same report makes no mention of a board (cube or otherwise) with 8 72-pin slots. So the questions are: Is this indeed a cube board? and Is the SIMM size really restricted to 8MB? and Will it make any difference to purchase parity or non-parity SIMMs given the mixture that already exists? Thank you all in advance for your help! Have a good day, Jake -- Why you wanna be reading them long-haired books for boy? -Foghorn Leghorn #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!enews.sgi.com!ames!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!usenet@news.umbc.edu From: Gregory Pacholczyk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Backing up Hard drive Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:21:39 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 5 Message-ID: <32DF1A73.45D7@gl.umbc.edu> Reply-To: gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc9.umbc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: gpacho1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) I have an 040 Cube with a really loud 660 mb hard drive, i also have a 1 gig scsi drive that i want to put in its place. how can i format the 1 gig drive and move everything over to it. thanks- -Greg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.252.116.190!feed1.news.erols.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Mike O'Connell Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Q:mac to NeXT/Sun video (DB15-13W3) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:13:01 -0600 Organization: Hatmen R Us Lines: 42 Message-ID: <32DF267D.4070@hatman.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pal-il5-18.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Jan 16 11:10:13 PM PST 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) To: rr Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26628 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43652 rr wrote: > couple a days ago I asked around if there was anybody who had succesfully > connected a macintosh to a (21") NeXT MegaPixel display. Nobody seemed to > have any real answers. > However I did get a lot of responses from people who are interested in this. > I've looked around and found a DB15-13W3 ( the latter being the one on the > MP) mac to > *Sun* video cable. Has anybody tried this (on a Sun or a NeXT) ? > How different is the pin-out of the Sun monitors from the NeXT ? I believe the Sun and NeXT are fairly similar - though I haven't come across any concrete monitor pinouts for the NeXT. However, following Andrew's advice, I did pop over to Griffin Technologies and searched their monitor database. Unfortunately that told me the resolution supported by the monitor is 1120x832 @ 76Hz. Because the hardware supports a single resolution, and because no system I've heard of (aside from the black NeXT hardware) outputs this resolution, there's no easy way to connect the monitor up to a "normal" system (I use that term loosely ;). That's not to say that, with the necessary technical information and know-how, you couldn't make the monitor work at a different resolution - say 1024x768 (fairly close) or 1152x860 (ditto). However, that would probably require modification of the digital card in the monitor - something that shouldn't be done without detailed information. I've been looking most of the night for information like this and haven't turned up anything, though if anyone has this kind of info I'd really appreciate it (I'd like to breathe new life into a _nice_ 21" MegaPixel display which is sitting on top of my 040/33 slab). Sorry if this was a downer... -- Mike monkeyboy@hatman.com * The box said "requires Windows '95 or better" * * So I bought it - I have a Macintosh! * #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!cdc2.cdc.net!news.texas.net!news1.best.com!idiom.com!idiom.com!jcr From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Battery's fine, Color Turbo still won't power up. Date: 17 Jan 1997 01:32:51 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Subject pretty much covers it. I've just bought a Color Turbo ADB slab, and It won't throw the relay when I hit the power key on the Keyboard. I've tried swapping the battery, and the power supply, to no avail. Anyone know if there's some other common failure mode besides the battery dying? advTHANKSance, -jcr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.191.213.61!ott.istar!istar.net!van.istar!west.istar!news-w.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!lantana.singnet.com.sg!usenet From: HisMajesty Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Indy Max Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:50:30 +0800 Organization: The WatchTower Lines: 1 Message-ID: <32DF9FC6.17FC@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Reply-To: fatjelly@mbox2.singnet.com.sg NNTP-Posting-Host: ts900-9213.singnet.com.sg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Can anyone tell me what is the fastest chip that the Indy comes in? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5bo82r$8e5@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> Control: cancel <5bo82r$8e5@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> Date: 17 Jan 1997 10:12:32 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5bo8dg$8f1@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pesto.cs.utexas.edu Ident-User: liuyi <5bo82r$8e5@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Realife: Liu, Yi | Dallas, TX #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news.luc.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Date: 17 Jan 1997 15:35:09 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5bo67d$gk@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pistachio186180.nuts.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > With tape, the data will be sitting spooled on a reel - but the > tape itself is likely to be sitting in a drawer with other tapes, > rather than in a drive or on your desk. MOs and other removable > media are more likely to be in the drive itself, a much more > dangerous position. I guess I like tape because it removes the > temptation entirely, rather than requiring discipline on the part > of the user. Ah. Makes some sense---I didn't realize that your main reason was psychological, rather than technological. Anyway, thanks for your thoughts. Now I've got to make up my mind.... 76058 - 79566 - 77835 |====================================================== ( Hint: TX zipcodes ) | Joshua W. 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Check out our LOW prices @ http://www.pcdiscounters.com or call toll free, 1-800-400-3533. To earn your business and become your one-stop computer shop for all of your computer upgrade needs, we will match almost ANY current advertised prices. Just send an e-mail with the web address where you found the lower price to webmaster@pcdiscounters.com. SPECIALS: *2.5 Gig Quantum hard drive - $239 *Cyrix 686 P150+ CPU & Intel Triton II board w/256K pipeline burst cache - $229 2.5 Gig Quantum hard drive - $239 Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 4 Megs of EDO - $139 8X CD-ROM - $99 (10X- $109, 12X- $119) **add a sound card and speakers for only $35 Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 33.6k Fax/Modem USR compatible - $85 AMD 5x86-133 Board & CPU - $135 ** Take a look at our EXCELLENT PRICES on all of your computer upgrade needs at http://www.pcdiscounters.com, e-mail us at webmaster@pcdiscounters.com, or call us toll free, 1-800-400-3533. PC Discounters. . . Your DISCOUNT Computer Source!! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Color Station memory question Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:55:06 GMT References: <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 56 In article <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, Jason wrote: > >As it turns out, he has 8 72-pin slots, something I have >never heard of before. My memory is hazy, but this sounds OK for a Color station. >The board also has a rather large >chip with RAMDAC written on it, something I don't recall >having seen the last time I opened the case on my mono >station. The RAMDAC is in charge of converting the digital RGB output from the colour display production logic to analogue video signals to send to your monitor. You need one for colour graphics, and don't for mono. That's why you don't have one in your mono slab. >This leads me to suspect that what he has is >in fact a station box with a cube board in it. > I don't think the cube board will fit inside a slab case. Plus, there were no cube boards with colour (and this no RAMDAC) and none with 8 72-pin SIMM sockets. >There is a mixture of parity and non-parity ram, but >the owner has never reported any necessity of nursing >the boot process in any way. > After a certain ROM version (63? 66? Can't remember) black hardware can handle mixed memory just fine. I have just such a thing in my cube. >Is this indeed a cube board? No. >Is the SIMM size really restricted to 8MB? Don't remember. >and >Will it make any difference to purchase parity or >non-parity SIMMs given the mixture that already exists? > Not really. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Message-ID: <32DFC865.3F90@pcdiscounters.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:43:49 -0700 From: Dave McGill Reply-To: dave@pcdiscounters.com Organization: PC Discounters X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Millenium- $209 w/2 megs WRAM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.201.100.233 Lines: 23 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news.paonline.com!news3.paonline.com!207.201.100.233 PC Discounters . . . Your DISCOUNT Computer Source!! Specializing in upgrades for desktop computers. Check out our LOW prices @ http://www.pcdiscounters.com or call toll free, 1-800-400-3533. To earn your business and become your one-stop computer shop for all of your computer upgrade needs, we will match almost ANY current advertised prices. Just send an e-mail with the web address where you found the lower price to webmaster@pcdiscounters.com. SPECIALS: *2.5 Gig Quantum hard drive - $239 *Cyrix 686 P150+ CPU & Intel Triton II board w/256K pipeline burst cache - $229 2.5 Gig Quantum hard drive - $239 Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 4 Megs of EDO - $139 8X CD-ROM - $99 (10X- $109, 12X- $119) **add a sound card and speakers for only $35 Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 33.6k Fax/Modem USR compatible - $85 AMD 5x86-133 Board & CPU - $135 ** Take a look at our EXCELLENT PRICES on all of your computer upgrade needs at http://www.pcdiscounters.com, e-mail us at webmaster@pcdiscounters.com, or call us toll free, 1-800-400-3533. PC Discounters. . . Your DISCOUNT Computer Source!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!usenet From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: df says 2GB, WM.app/InfoPanel says 0 bytes--bug or Seagate problem? Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:50:56 GMT Organization: Stanford University Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5bol70$1dr@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: mally.stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I too recently installed a 2GB Seagate Hawl 2XL (ST32151N) drive, putting it into an external enclosure and using NeXTSTEP 3.3 (Patch1) BuildDisk.app to partition and build it. BuildDisk.app's "Two Partitions" button *defaulted* to partition sizes of 2024MB and 25 MB (which adds up to the 2049 MB that is reported when the drive is recognized at boot up). After putting the drive in my Color NeXTStation Turbo, everything worked fine except that the WorkspaceMgr.app's Info/Info Panel reports "0 bytes". (I have a screen shot if you are interested). Df tells me otherwise: mally# 1> df Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 2004579 635020 1169101 35% / /dev/sd0b 25085 9 22567 00% /clients /private/vm/swapfile 2004579 635020 1169101 35% /private/vm/swapfile.front Interestingly, the shelf in WorkspaceMgr.app's FileViewer reports correctly that I have "1.1GB available". /etc/fstab seems to have been correctly configured as follows: mally# 2> more /etc/fstab /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd0b /clients 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 Does anyone know why the InfoPanel reports 0 bytes? And what happened to the 20 MB that was lost on /dev/sd0a (BuildDisk defaulted to 2024 MB and yet only 2004 MB are showing up). Where is Info Panel getting its information? If I built the new disk with partition sizes of 2,000MB and 49MB, would WM.app Info Panel report correctly? Thanks for any replies. Ed --- Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701171337.FAA04212@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 6b14f81085f0c113afc690184b06b082 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 08:37:04 -0500 Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 6b14f81085f0c113afc690184b06b082 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 19 Responding To: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Original Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:55:05 GMT > well, how about a old syquest 44? would it work? if it is a SCSI connector, it should if not, there's a trade-in offer at SyQuest's homepage where they'll give you $100 towards an EZFlyer if you turn in any (even non-SyQuest) drive (doesn't even have to work) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!newscaster-1.mcast.net!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.ibm.net.il!usenet From: hankin@aquanet.co.il Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ext hard drive enclosure Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:57:58 +0200 Organization: Aquanet LTD Lines: 14 Message-ID: <32DFD9C6.209E@aquanet.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: cache.aquanet.co.il Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Cache-Post-Path: cache!unknown@ppp135-4.aquanet.co.il Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:95812 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:50373 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video:135258 comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:22597 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:60650 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:23489 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:16428 comp.sys.next.hardware:26637 Hi! I'm looking for ext. ide hard drive case ( connected through parallel port ) I've seen : - anteck ks 510 for ~ $80 - nexar REMOVABLE IDE HARD DRIVE CADDY for ~ $30 - Cost effective 3.5" Parallel Port for ~ ??? External Hard Drive Subsystem - circo Removable Hard Drive Kit for ~ $30 Can somebody tell me what is the best for me ( i gonna use it for data transfer from my home PC to work one ) ? Why is there $50 difference and what does it mean ? Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!sonybc!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!lantana.singnet.com.sg!usenet From: HisMajesty Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Indy Max Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:56:12 +0800 Organization: The WatchTower Lines: 4 Message-ID: <32E02DBC.38F@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> References: <32DF9FC6.17FC@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Reply-To: fatjelly@mbox2.singnet.com.sg NNTP-Posting-Host: ts900-9809.singnet.com.sg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) HisMajesty wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what is the fastest chip that the Indy comes in? Sorrry I posted this to the wrong newsgroup. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!usenet From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WorkspaceMgr.app/Info Panel says 0 bytes for Seagate drive? Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:43:02 GMT Organization: Stanford University Lines: 51 Message-ID: <5bp9r6$5a2@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: mally.stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) The problem is that "df" tells me that there are 2,004 MB on my new Seagate drive, but WorkspaceMgr/Info Panel says "0 bytes". I recently installed a 2 GB Seagate Hawk 2XL drive (ST32151N) in my Color NeXTstation Turbo running NeXTSTEP 3.3 (Patch 1). I put the new drive in an external enclosure and used BuildDisk.app to partition and build it. In BuildDisk, I selected the "Partition" button and then the "Two" button, and the app then defaulted to the following two partition sizes: 2024 MB and 25 MB (which equals the 2049 MB that the operating system recognized on the new drive at boot up). The build was successful and I swapped the drives. Everything worked fine except for the fact that the WorkSpaceMgr.app's Info/Info Panel tells me that there are "0 bytes" on the Disk. The underlying unix says otherwise, for a "df command yields the following: mally# 1> Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 2004579 636961 1167160 35% / /dev/sd0b 25085 9 22567 00% /clients /private/vm/swapfile 2004579 636961 1167160 35% /private/vm/swapfile.front Interestingly, the shelf on the FileViewer in WorkSpaceMgr.app correctly prints (in light grey) that I have "1.1GB available on hard disk". The /etc/fstab was correctly configured as follows: mally# 2> more /etc/fstab # # DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE, IT IS REQUIRED FOR BOOTING /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd0b /clients 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 Does anyone have any ideas why WorkSpaceMgr.app is not correctly reporting the disk size in the Info Panel? Where is it getting its information? Is there a workaround, i.e., a file that needs to be modified? Would I get this problem if I had altered the values in BuildDisk so that the drive was partitioned into a 2,000MB and a 49MB partition? What is the absolute maximum value that can be set for the main partition before this problem arises? Also, when df reports 2004 MB, what happened to the other 20 MB that should have been on the 2024 MB partition BuildDisk.app said it would build? Many thanks for any replies. Ed Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Station memory question Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:58:45 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5bpaol$el@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, Jason wrote: >A friend of mine bought some time ago a used Color station, >non-turbo. >As it turns out, he has 8 72-pin slots [...] > This leads me to suspect that what he has is >in fact a station box with a cube board in it. >Is this indeed a cube board? If it displays in color, it can't be a cube board. All cubes don't have color. >Is the SIMM size really restricted to 8MB? Color non-turbo stations can use 1MB or 4MB 72-pin SIMMs. Group them in 2s and get 80ns or faster. Maximum RAM is 64MB. >Will it make any difference to purchase parity or >non-parity SIMMs given the mixture that already exists? No. Regards, Ken p.s. All of the above information is from the NeXT FAQ. -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!berlin.snafu.de!spamcancel!cyberspam From: NA@nope.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5bp5fp$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5bp5fp$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 03:30:36 +1 Organization: The Copy Cat Shop Lines: 5 Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de Message-ID: References: <5bp5fp$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: berlin.snafu.de X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "TheCopyCatShop" or "summary of auto-cancels" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: CD-R Media. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.cichlid.com!news.ucdavis.edu!info.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!ames!night.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DeepSpaceTech Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:51:46 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5bpabi$eg@hpax.cup.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com I just wanted to say these guys at DeepSpaceTech are great. Got my order as promised and everything works. Despite the UPS guy handling it rough, all those peanuts did their job. The system is a station, and they went through the trouble of reinstalling the OS from scratch. I've assumed this because when I booted up the system, the machine was not in verbose mode and the OS asked which language I wanted to use. Just a satisfied customer, and neither I nor the company I work for are affiliated with them. Highly recommended. Regards, Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 10 Jan 97 17:14:00 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <5b5ap3$cu5@news.next.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.50.154 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Fri, Jan 10, 1997 6:56 AM, Eren Kotan wrote: > Yes, that would be the best of both worlds, network them together, use the > black box as a terminal to the PC and run all your Apps on the PC then > display the output on the NeXT computer. It would involve buying two > machines, but definitely the way to do it if you're a no-compromise, and > money is no object sorta person ;-} How would the speed be on a setup like this. I'm currently running a Mac network over ethernet with Filemaker Pro 3.0 serving some DB to a few networked Macs and it's abysmally slow. All these machines are PPC machines except the server which is a IIfx. Is NeXTStep better at client/server applications? Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!tezcat!gail.ripco.com!news.wwa.com!news From: Peet Dale Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep/Mac 4.1 on a dual ppro system? Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 21:19:24 -0600 Organization: GIDI Lines: 15 Message-ID: <32D5B53B.12E1@gidi.com> Reply-To: dale@gidi.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pool1-066.s-isdn.wwa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Next says that openstep/Mach 4.1 WILL NOT run on a dual pentium pro system UNLESS one pulls out one of the processors. Does anyone know of a workaround or can disprove this as a falicy? *** I know that openstep does not yet have SMP capability, but what I am after here is just using a single processor on my dual box (like win 95 does now) **** PLEASE oh PLEASE let me know as I want to buy and load it but cannot pull out CPUs because I also run Solaris and NT on the same box. Please reply via email to dale@gidi.com as I don't read news often enough! -Peet Dale #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news1.slip.net!not-for-mail From: Emmett McLean Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fix for fuzzy letters on black mono hardware? Date: 18 Jan 1997 05:57:02 GMT Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5bpone$r4i$1@news1.slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961115] Hi, The resolution of the letterson on my mono 17" monitor is fuzzy. Is there a way this can be fixed or am I doomed to having to buy another monitor? Thanks, e- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!xs4all!ztm07-28.dial.xs4all.nl!user From: rr@xs4all.nl (rr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS 2.1 & Mac disks Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:45:06 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Lines: 24 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ztm07-28.dial.xs4all.nl X-XS4ALL-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:49:13 MET Hi, I've been trying to get the nextcube to read mac-disks. THis doesn't work with NS 2.1 I know I should get a later version ( I do have 3.0 but I lack a cable to connect the cd-rom player to the CUbe -money is tight). Anyway, what I tried is format a msdos disk on the mac wiht Apple File Exchange. Then I translated several files for the Next to this msdos disk. Now I brought it to my NeXT. IT works fine with ordinary textfiles. But with programs like ppp there is a problem. First is that I don't seem to be able to extract tar files from the floppy. I tried tar -xvf {filename}. I seems that the cube doesn't recognize./find the files I'm referring too. How do I get it to look on the floppy disk ? Also when trying to install pppXXX-pkg ( package) I got an error saying that it couldn't read ppp.info. Why ? Translating the files to ms-dos format changes the naming of the files, but is this the cause of this ? I've already asked around if there is a ppp for NS 2.1. I hope so, if not I could use some help on configuring uucp. Anybody ? Rodney #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!hunter.premier.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net!news.pacbell.net!usenet From: averageguy1@juno.com (pete larou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what constitutes an operating system Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 08:39:44 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5anpbf$aec@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sac-port42.jps.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I was wondering what an operating system is. Is it just software. What is the difference between say windows and adobe photoshop for example? Also is it possible to run a system from a cd rom without having a hard drive installed. If this was possible would it make it impossible for a computer to get a virus? I'd appreciate any help with these questions. I have been playing with computers for 6 months now and i'm a fanatic. I am still not clear on alot of things about systems, i am very thirsty for knowledge. Thanks in advance. sincerly John you can post here or e mail me. stimpdog@ix.netcom.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.177.127.11!news.sojourn.com!usenet From: stimpy@castlerock.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXT Laser printer problems, help please? Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:07:10 GMT Organization: none Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5b488e$200@tkhut.sojourn.com> Reply-To: stimpy@castlerock.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ld-nas-008.sojourn.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) Hi. My laser printer has recently decided to print a wide black smudge/smear thing on the first page of a printout, sometimes going on to teh second page (as it fades out).... I have only seen this on the last 3 times I have printed with it, I am afraid to keep trying things worried I could make it worse.... anyone ever see this, any ideas? it just happened all of a sudden.... thanks gary ________________________________________________________________ gcl@mail.sojourn.com NeXTmail/LipService is prefered Founder: The NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List Owner: Network with a NeXT '040 Cube #4173 running NeXTstep v3.3 and a Intel i486dx2-66 running NeXTstep for Intel v3.3 _________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: no Direct-X compliant driver for Miro Crystal32S video Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:10:01 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b48dp$rea@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu I posted this article to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video, but I am also posting it here since many people who hung out in the group 2 1/2 years ago had this particular video card when it was the best available and compatible card for NEXTSTEP. ----- My video card is a Miro Crystal 32S (4MB PCI). It's based on the S3 928. I buoght it 2 1/2 years ago, at wihch time it was top-of-the-line. Miro's Win95 driver is not Direct-X compliant, and the company has told me that they don't plan to write a Direct-X compliant version since they are no longer selling the card (at least in the US). Does anyone else have this card and is there any way to get Direct-X to work with it? Is there a Direct-X compliant generic S3-928 driver, and is it possible to use this instead of Miro's driver? Or even the generic VGA driver? Or am I just out of luck until I buy a newer video card? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: will NS3.3 Matrox Millenium driver work with NS3.2? Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:14:41 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b48mh$ri9@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu I've got a NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2 system with a Miro Crystal32S video card. I'm thinking about buying a newer video card in order to use Direct-X applications in Windows95. The compatibility guides in NextAnswers seem to only go back to NEXTSTEP 3.3 and don't mention NEXTSTEP 3.2. In general, will a video driver from NextAnswers that claims to be for 3.3 work with 3.2 as well? Specifically, does anyone know if the Matrox Millenium driver will work with 3.2? Even though I am a student, $300 to upgrade to 4.0 or 3.3 is too much. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!news.dgsys.com!reader2.news.act.net!reader1.news.act.net!dgs.dgsys.com!not-for-mail From: steffi@dgs.dgsys.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Toshiba Tecra -- dual boot Date: 17 Jan 1997 08:53:53 -0500 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5bo09h$b01@DGS.dgsys.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dgs.dgsys.com As a Tecra owner myself I'd go the extra internal drive route. Remember it must be the Toshiba drive and you also want the housing. If you go the external route and can disable the IDE drive then you'll need a PCMCIA SCSI controller (Adaptec SlimSCSI)... You'll probably find the extra internal the least expensive route. Plus you'll still have portability if that's important. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.fast.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Daisho Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT & Bitsurfer ISDN Adapter Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:44:30 +0000 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 3 Message-ID: <32D590EE.7457@earthlink.net> Reply-To: daisho@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cust63.max21.washington.dc.ms.uu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; U; 68K) OK want to connect my neXT to an ISDN line was thinking about the the motorolla bitsurfer input anyone #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Daisho Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is the best solution for a portable NeXT Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:46:26 +0000 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 1 Message-ID: <32D59162.7100@earthlink.net> Reply-To: daisho@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cust63.max21.washington.dc.ms.uu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; U; 68K) OK what's the best solution for a portable NeXT computer #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.tc.umn.edu!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!datamodl.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: martin@datamodl.demon.co.uk (Martin Hargreaves) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:39:06 GMT Organization: Datamodel Ltd Lines: 39 Message-ID: <853605586.12929.1@datamodl.demon.co.uk> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <55pvzjh8t8.fsf@pbunyk.physics.sunysb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: datamodl.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: datamodl.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:81238 comp.sys.newton.programmer:16284 comp.sys.next.advocacy:53563 comp.sys.next.hardware:26653 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16029 comp.sys.next.misc:24697 comp.sys.next.software:27453 comp.sys.palmtops:63258 comp.sys.pen:14643 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:14259 comp.sys.powerpc.tech:3841 comp.sys.sgi.admin:45324 comp.sys.sgi.apps:14857 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:18273 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:26390 comp.sys.sinclair:32211 comp.sys.sun.admin:83307 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43686 comp.sys.sun.misc:26710 comp.sys.sun.wanted:18252 comp.sys.tandy:15126 comp.text.frame:19460 comp.text.pdf:6597 comp.text.sgml:14718 comp.text.tex:83991 comp.unix.admin:50353 comp.unix.advocacy:36438 comp.unix.aix:84079 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35737 comp.unix.misc:24639 comp.unix.osf.osf1:19493 comp.unix.programmer:45847 comp.unix.questions:73648 comp.unix.sco.misc:34040 comp.unix.shell:38188 paul@pbunyk.physics.sunysb.edu (Paul Bunyk) wrote: > >Actually... there was an ancient way to break a *given* mail programm >on a system you know too well: Theoretically if the mail program do >not allocate enough space for Subject: line, for example, and you feed it >a cerefully choosen long subject line, it can write itslef over some internal >structures of the program and mabe even cause some code to be executed. >Of course the mail program should be buggy (but sendmail *was* buggy, moreover, >it *is* buggy still) but I doubt that there still are people who can craft See recent issues of Phrack for "Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit". Any fool can do it now. Most recent in this vein was using a long gecos field a while ago. >that ;-) As far as I remember Morrison's famous Internet worm exploited >something like this in Sun's sendmail... Morris's worm used the now very elderly DEBUG hole. >But you should not worry, Windows'95's mail can not have this bug! > See the NT security mailing list for recently posted buffer overrung exploits embedded in mail designed for Windows NT and 95. ;-) Security - it worse than you think... M. ################################################################### # Martin Hargreaves (Director/Consultant) # # Datamodel Ltd - Open Systems Management and Security # # martin@datamodl.demon.co.uk http://www.datamodl.demon.co.uk # ################################################################### #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.algonet.se!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:46:44 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5b4aik$29s@news.us.net> References: <5b3dgv$oro$1@Venus.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.92 font@MCS.COM (Font) wrote > Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: > Video hw: I've got a CTX 1785 GMe 17" monitor, and it works fine with > the ATI mach32 or Matrox Millenium drivers at 1024x768 60 Hz ONLY. > With either card, if I increase the vertical refresh to 70 or 75 Hz, > the image on the monitor becomes fuzzier and dim. The same dimness > problem occurs if I increase the resolution to 1184x864, any refresh > rate. Is this usual for multiscanning monitors, or is my CTX just > severely lacking? (According to the CTX manual, up to 1280x1024 is > supported, but maybe it's just lying.) It's probably your CTX. For instance, my Idek 8617 17" monitor is rated for better than 1280x1024 and it will hold that image properly. However, it's really too fuzzy to be useful at that resolution. I usually use it at 1152x864 or 1120x832 for a decent picture. So, even if a monitor supports 1280x1024 @ 75hz (the electronics on the monitor will display that bandwidth), one still has to look at the resulting picture on the tube. Personally, I like the Nanao T2-17 series with the nice Trinitron tubes. .Bill Chin bchin@us.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!192.156.196.2!news.usa.net!news From: Jeff Hepp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz OK, Zip Lost Ground Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:32:12 -0800 Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Lines: 5 Message-ID: <32E14F6C.78E8@usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: port12.den1-annex.usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I; 16bit) I've had a Zip drive on my NeXTStation Color for some time now and it has worked wonderfully. Recently got a Jaz, installed the Jaz.package from NeXT and now whenever I try to init a Zip, Console thinks its a Jaz cart. It craps out before it's formatted and from then on says it's unreadable. Any thoughts/experiences with this? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!cdc2.cdc.net!news.texas.net!node2.frontiernet.net!newsfeed.vivanet.com!myth.vianet.on.ca!news2.insinc.net!roger.interlynx.net!visgen.com!not-for-mail From: bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fast ROM-password removal (Was: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem.) Date: 18 Jan 1997 15:53:36 -0500 Organization: Visible Genetics Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5brd8g$ej9@ampere.visgen.com> References: <32CFE258.4144@sprintmail.com> <5bitut$ce6@ampere.visgen.com> <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.visgen.com Summary: "fried?" how so? In article <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Art Isbell wrote: >bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) wrote: >> In article , >> Peter Nitezki wrote: >> > >> >Pull the power cord, open the box and remove the lithium battery on the >> >main board for an hour or two. > >> For immediate results: using a bent paperclip or small screwdriver, >> short the contacts in the batteryholder together for a few seconds. > >> Voila! No password. > > Voila! Fried hardware. Barring the possibility that the paperclip owner has built up a static charge large enough to cause problems (a possibility I didn't worry about; if they are are inside the NeXT, they must be aware of static already), please explain why shorting the battery terminals would necessarily result in "fried hardware". There's a small capacitor and, very likely, a resistor in series when you short the battery terminals. A small current flows while the capacitor discharges. That's it. I've done this quick-password-remove thing *many* times. Those Turbo NeXTstations live to this very day in my employ. Not one of them has complained of rough treatment. -bmw -- "I'd like to wish everyone a Happy New Year--with the exception of the man who invented the telephone." -- Mark Twain, 1891 Bruce M. Walker | Visible Genetics Inc. | bmw@visgen.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! 17" color MegaPixel Fades to black in 10-20 minutes Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:51:53 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 14 Message-ID: <19970118225100.RAA25004@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I have a 17" color MegaPixel display that works just fine (no fading that I can tell) for about 10 to 20 minutes and then it seems to "zoom in" to a spot on the screen while simultaneously fading to black. I can't use it then for about 6 HOURS later and then the whole cycle begins again. Obviously it sounds like a part getting hot, but 6 hours to cool down sounds extreme. I know Bell Atlantic has a monopoly on Black hardware repair (any rumours on Apple changing this?) but does anyone know of the (rough) costs of having them repair it? I REALLY love the display and refuse to run a PC monitor on my NeXT Station. If I can't repair the monitor then I'd rather buy another MegaPixel. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Scott Johnson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!spring.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!not-for-mail From: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: About Dimension Date: 19 Jan 1997 03:09:17 GMT Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: jjhuang@server.cm.nctu.edu.tw X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Recently I am interested in the Dimension board, and I have some questions about it. Dimension has a NTSC input,right? Could the port do realtime video digitization? I mean can I convert a video tape(VHS) to Quick Time Movie on the fly? :) And does it has a NTSC output port? And is there any other good features on Dimension? Last question, where can I find useful information about all features of Dimension? Thank you very much in advance. -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#========================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <475852914532@digifix.com> Date: 19 Jan 1997 04:57:55 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 347 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <413853649874@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:53627 comp.sys.next.announce:4011 comp.sys.next.hardware:26659 comp.sys.next.software:27465 comp.sys.next.misc:24711 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24921 comp.sys.next.bugs:4161 comp.sys.next.programmer:21708 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. 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Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. 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To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!news From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Me too: but different Bootup problems Date: 19 Jan 1997 01:29:15 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <5arqac$2m9@nntp1.u.washington.edu> <5br5tm$gvq@nntp1.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rebus.physics.mcgill.ca X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Hello, I am having bootup problems too, I my system pauses at the exec_faxes for a long time ... probably a time out at the begining I thought it was a hostconfig problem so I followed all described bellow but did not help any pointers? thanks nick tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) writes: > > tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) writes: > > >Nextstep 3.3 was working fine on my Gateway 486DX66 until one day when it > >hung on 'starting automounter' during bootup. Running 'boot: -v' showed > >that the point at which bootup hangs is when the line 'starting file > >service daemons' is displayed. I know of no damage or change to the > >system that should have caused this to happen. Any suggestions for > >solving this? > > >Thanks. > > >Tom Payne > > Here's the solution, courtesy of Paul Lynch: > > At the boot prompt, type -s. > > This takes you to root prompt (#). > > Type: > > cp /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc > > This replaces /etc/hostconfig, solving the problem. > > Tom Payne > -- > Thomas Payne, MD > Clinical Computing Project > Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound, Seattle #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.insinc.net!news.cadvision.com!usenet From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to do the backup with Exabyte Model 8500? Date: 11 Jan 1997 18:07:07 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5b8ksb$23di@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <32d607a3.24511376@netnews.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: agtg91.cadvision.com In-Reply-To: <32d607a3.24511376@netnews.hinet.net> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00073 On 01/09/97, Mon-Sen Yang composed a News article about How to do the backup with Exabyte Model 8500?: ~Hi all, ~ ~We have just find a EXABYTE Model 8500 SCSI Backup device in our ~office, and would like to use it to backup NeXT Server. I buy a new ~2GB 8mm DAT tape which will insert to the EXABYTE backup system, and ~would like to use it for backup. Can anybody tell me how to write out ~the "dump" command on the NeXT to do the full backup? In addition, if ~I would like to continue use the same tape (don't rewind after the ~full backup) and make another backup just backup users' information, ~users home directories' data, and directories' sturcture, then how ~should I write the "dump" command? And how to write the command to ~restore the data? ~ ~If there is any good very easily understand refence about how to do ~the backup, please let me know too. Thank you. I have the following mounted on my Turbo Colour NeXT : Jan 6 20:46:13 guzzibill mach: EXABYTE EXB-8200 Rev 263H as st0 at sc0 target 5 lun 0 It takes 45 mins to backup 700 meg on a 1.3 gig hard drive. Restores are a snap! And I use SafetyNet as the application (commercial) to perform backup & restore activities. It has saved my disk-butt many times. They can be reached at : safetynet@systemix.com -- Bill Scollard - Scollard Holdings Ltd. Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave Calgary, Alberta, Canada #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!spring.edu.tw!news-peer.nctu.edu.tw!news.nctu.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.hinet.net!netnews.hinet.net!news From: batmon@abico.com.tw (Mon-Sen Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to do the backup with Exabyte Model 8500? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:24:23 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32d607a3.24511376@netnews.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.69.238.57 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Hi all, We have just find a EXABYTE Model 8500 SCSI Backup device in our office, and would like to use it to backup NeXT Server. I buy a new 2GB 8mm DAT tape which will insert to the EXABYTE backup system, and would like to use it for backup. Can anybody tell me how to write out the "dump" command on the NeXT to do the full backup? In addition, if I would like to continue use the same tape (don't rewind after the full backup) and make another backup just backup users' information, users home directories' data, and directories' sturcture, then how should I write the "dump" command? And how to write the command to restore the data? If there is any good very easily understand refence about how to do the backup, please let me know too. Thank you. Best Regards, ·¨©s¾Ë¡]batmon¡^ batmon@abico.com.tw Ability Enterprise Co., Ltd. Part of ABiCO Group #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdcc12.ucsd.edu!uape-30.ucsd.edu!llay From: enigma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: system hangs while booting Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:46:01 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: uape-30.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 16 Jan 1997, Scott Hess wrote: > I've found that NeXTSTEP is pretty sensitive to SCSI issues. My first > Intel system, a 486, built by a crapball company, had a flakey SCSI > disk (or controller, or whatever). It would work fine for long > periods, and then it would have severe bouts of flakiness. I did some > reformatting and reinstalling, and that would often fix it for awhile, > but I suspect that it was some borderline problem, because it never > just got to where it _worked_. > > Got the drive replaced, and then it worked fine. Never did figure out > the exact interaction that was going on, though. I agree... I've always used both on my PC and my Mac--great for sneakernet. I'm also amazed at how sensitive NeXTSTEP is at SCSI. I mean, I have *NEVER* gotten my PC computer to work with NeXTSTEP completely. It's always been so flaky--with mediocre reliability at best. Interesting (and frankly, down right annoying) thing is, I don't have any problem like NeXTSTEP on other operating systems that I throw at my PC. Luke. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!condor.cns.iit.edu!not-for-mail From: yong@charlie.cns.iit.edu (Yong J. Yoo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: where can I find a ghostscript for OpenStep 4.0? Date: 19 Jan 1997 01:21:50 -0600 Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5bsi2e$7ql@charlie.cns.iit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: charlie.cns.iit.edu Hi, I am currently running OpenStep 4.0 on Intel system and have Lexmark winWriter 400 laser printer(not postscript printer). Can anyone tell me where I can find ghostscript, and if anyone knows if it will work with my printer? thanks Yong Yoo yong@charlie.cns.iit.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!not-for-mail From: aris@next.com (Aris Colp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 11 Jan 1997 09:32:16 GMT Organization: NeXT Software Inc. Lines: 36 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b7mn0$jin@news.next.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: aris.next.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26665 comp.sys.next.misc:24721 You can run CAP on the NeXTstation. It will make part of your hard disk (all of it if you want) into an Appleshare volume and export your printer as a MacIntosh printer. CAP is however a little difficult to configure - from memory about 2 years ago, but this may have changed. It is also free. A. PS: The computer science department at Melbourne University in Australia used to develop some part of CAP - you can get something from the URL: ftp://ftp.cs.mu.oz.au/mac/ John Kestner (jak@asu.edu) wrote: : If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it possible to : print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up to the NeXTstation? Or : is there any other way to get from the Mac to the NeXT printer? : : Any help is much appreciated. : : john : : --- - ------- ------- : You're not going crazy, you're going sane in a crazy world! - The Tick : : jak@asu.edu : http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ -- Aris Colp (ALL OPINIONS ARE MY OWN) NeXT Technical Support (I DO NOT SPEAK FOR NeXT Software Inc.) aris@next.com; +1-415-780-3712; http://www.next.com/~aris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.belnet.be!swsbe6.switch.ch!news.unige.ch!news From: moetteli@citeu1.citeu.unige.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which modems doesn't work with OpenStep? Date: 18 Jan 1997 10:31:45 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.33.227.111 Summary: Modem X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Hi I have to buy a modem (as cheap as possible) and can't do a trial and error. So I need to know what modems I shouldn't buy. Could anyone help me? Thanks Phil #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.pond.com!usenet From: mmcatee@pond.com (Mike McAtee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Urgent questions on Toshiba's Deskstation V+ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 23:29:51 GMT Organization: FishNet Lines: 19 Message-ID: <32d92234.1710120@news.pond.com> References: <32D6903F.189F@elastica.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: arctic-3.vf.pond.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.laptops:94513 comp.sys.next.hardware:26667 I am using a Matrox Millenium with 4 megs and it flys . I get excellent ratings with this card. Any questions let me know Later On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:53:51 -0500, Robert Nicholson wrote: >I have some questions about the Deskstation V+ with the Tecra 720CDT > >1. > >How good is the video performance? > >A friend runs his with a Elsa Winner 2000 card and it really bites. He >can see windows redrawn at 1280x1024. > >Anybody using one with a Matrox Millenium 4MEG card? -Mike McAtee mmcatee@pond.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.cuhk.edu.hk!news.erg.cuhk.edu.hk!maews5!skwong From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to use JAZ on NeXT ? Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:24:14 GMT Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5b5muu$ijm@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> NNTP-Posting-Host: maews5.mae.cuhk.edu.hk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I bought a JAZ and tested on Mac, OK. I connected it to my NeXTcube turbo running NS3.2 . The cartridge was bought preformatted with Mac format. While the cartridge is inserted into the JAZ on NeXT, it is mounted automatically to the NeXT in Mac format. Then I tried Disk->Initialize... After a while, NeXT reported error and eject the disk. I remembered 2yrs ago, I saw a post said that the JAZ is compatible with NeXT. Can you tell me what's wrong with me ? Do I need to do some low level reformat before the Initialization ? And how to do it ? Or is there any FAQ discussion on it ? Thanks in advance. Mr.Sai-Kee Wong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!tulane.edu!usenet From: mwm@math.tulane.edu (Michael Mislove) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem. Date: 15 Jan 1997 12:25:21 -0600 Organization: Tulane University Lines: 3 Sender: mwm@spot.math.tulane.edu Message-ID: References: <01bbfa5c$a104c440$9a128780@starlock.Uchicago.edu> <32CFE258.4144@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spot.math.tulane.edu In-reply-to: "Raymond L. Ehrlich"'s message of Sun, 05 Jan 1997 22:18:16 +0500 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Try hitting CONTROL-C as the machine is hunting for the network - this seems to work on my son's Turbo running 3.3 (but I don't have the problem on my NeXTstation also running 3.3). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!charon.cvi.ns.nl!Utrecht.NL.net!knoware.nl!usenet From: harts@knoware.nl (Paul Harts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ?Good back-up for Black NeXTstation Color? Date: 20 Jan 1997 20:05:32 GMT Organization: Knoware Internet Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5c0j6c$4ib@news.knoware.nl> References: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: paulharts.knoware.nl In-Reply-To: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20003-01 Hi, I would appreciate any advice on equipment that has proven itself as back up for black hardware, e.g. my NeXTstation Color. Prices are not that important since a lot is at stake. Thanks for any advice. Paul. -- ==================================================== | harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | | the Netherlands | probably is one | | NeXTmail Welcomed! | | ==================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.flint.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!yuma!beethoven.cs.colostate.edu!warnerr From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone try installing NS 4.1 onto EPS XL-133 Notebooks? Date: 20 Jan 1997 18:50:08 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5c0ep0$2k3g@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: beethoven.cs.colostate.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Title says it all - looking at this model and wondering if the drivers, etc. exist for the video and CD-ROM, etc. ?? Thanks in advance. Rich #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: atheurer@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Matthew Theurer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium- $209 w/2 megs WRAM Date: 20 Jan 1997 15:00:34 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5c0mdi$hdu@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu> References: <32DFC865.3F90@pcdiscounters.com> <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeckle.cs.utexas.edu Ident-User: atheurer In article <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net>, Font wrote: >Dave McGill writes: >>SPECIALS: >>Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 >Hmm, the Micro Center store here in Chicago has this same price, but >for the 4M WRAM version, not 2M. With the driver from NeXTanswers, it >works well. When a retail store beats out a mail order shop, the mail >order shop is likely overcharging for other items as well... or at >least posting to the wrong newsgroup. Dell Factory Outlet in Austin,TX has these (4MB) for $149! It is, however, an OEM (no winblows drivers, etc, who cares). Andrew Theurer. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.eecs.umich.edu!quip.eecs.umich.edu!beckers From: beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Becki Kain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cleaning a NeXT printer Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 20 Jan 1997 21:23:35 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5c0non$5ak$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: quip.eecs.umich.edu Keywords: NeXT printer I've checked the NeXT-Hardware-Peripheral Faq and can't find an answer to this one. Can I buy, from somewhere, just the cleaning pad for a NeXT Printer? I don't need more toner, just the pad. I'm getting ghost images when I print. thanks (please respond via email and the group) beckers #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!hunter.premier.net!news.lightlink.com!news.bconnex.net!news2.insinc.net!defiant.on-it.net!news From: Lee MacNeill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need NS portable info Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:35:19 -0800 Organization: Onit Internet Service & Cybercafe Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32E2BDC7.7D1B@ican.net> References: <5bmooe$2b5@brockman.serv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem9.on-it.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) To: Dean Johnson do a web search. I've seen a nextstep (intel)portable with probably next-special things n it. I have forgotten just where, however. -- ====================================================================== = Lee Andrew MacNeill = #include = = ============================================== = macfrogg@ican.net = "I had a really, really *good* quote, but = = macfrogg@pathcom.com = I forgot it. Sorry." = ====================================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!mr.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!news2.insinc.net!defiant.on-it.net!news From: Andrew Dodd Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Q:mac to NeXT/Sun video (DB15-13W3) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:39:42 -0800 Organization: Onit Internet Service & Cybercafe Lines: 15 Message-ID: <32E2BECE.3FB4@on-it.net> References: <32DF267D.4070@hatman.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem9.on-it.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26675 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43728 aha! methinks spherical solutions sells the adaptor, and on a mac one can tweak,or alter the resolution to whatever you want up to a maximum of whatever that particular model supports, then it can be saved as a resolution setting, and you can just switch to it in the monitors and sound control panel. -- ====================================================================== = Lee Andrew MacNeill = #include = = ============================================== = macfrogg@ican.net = "I had a really, really *good* quote, but = = macfrogg@pathcom.com = I forgot it. Sorry." = ====================================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!spring.edu.tw!serv.hinet.net!netnews.hinet.net!news From: icesoft@semi.com.tw (Richard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Global Semiconductor Datasheets Library Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:52:46 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Lines: 7 Message-ID: <32e42164.3568190@netnews.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.95.28.124 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 http://www.semi.com.tw Our Semiconductor Datasheets Library includes more than 28,112 datasheets. Use Our search engine , you can easily find over 50 semiconductor manufacture's datasheets. All the servies are free. Welcome you to visit our web site. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!sonnet1.sonnet.com!ppp11-mod.sonnet.com!user From: neal@sonnet.com (Josh Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice on NS laptops Date: 19 Jan 1997 20:55:04 GMT Organization: MacDaddy Computers Lines: 7 Approved: yup Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp11-mod.sonnet.com I'm looking for advice on getting an Intel laptop to run OpenStep/Mach and OpenStep/NT on. Has anyone compiled a list of laptops that are known to work with Mach? Thanks, Josh Neal neal@sonnet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!cdc2.cdc.net!news.texas.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: Erik Pennebaker Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: openstep for mach/stealth64/i386 Date: 21 Jan 1997 01:58:42 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5c17si$ao8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dynamo.cso.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) I've got a Diamond Stealth64 card (Trio64V+) and can't get it to work. The error it gives on boot is that it can't reserve the memory map from 000a0000 - 000bfffff (the 2nd location listed on the expert list for memory maps - I might have missed some zeros). I've tried changing the range from 800 - 9fff, and then I get an error on the port address (which I know is right). I've tried the s3 generic, the diamond stealth, new drivers, old drivers, glue drivers, mold drivers, but get the same message. I've changed the large memory address that appears on the main config window to a reasonably large value, but this doesn't help. I've played with the id key thingies too. It appears to detect the card, but dies on reserving the memory location. Does anyone have any ideas? I can't really use anything in 640x480 BW... -Erik -- ----- Erik Pennebaker | http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/epenneba | epenneba@uiuc.edu If bushes were trees, trees would be fallin'. CCSO Workstation Support Group, University of Illinois My opinions #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!newscaster-1.mcast.net!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!ix.netcom.com!erotandi From: erotandi@netcom.com (Edhi Rotandi) Subject: Soundbox, CPU upgrade Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #9 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 02:44:33 GMT Lines: 16 Sender: erotandi@netcom.netcom.com Hi all, I've just recently purchased a color turbo station (ADB). For some reason under the prefrence app, the mic setting cannot be set? (it's stuckat the zero position.) Is there afix to this?? Also, I notice in a Mac World ad, some company is selling a Quadra upgrade daughter card that goes upto 100MHz (I think it uses the 040 chip.) has anyone tried using it? is it usable?? Thanks Edhi #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?Good back-up for Black NeXTstation Color? Date: 21 Jan 1997 07:15:16 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5c1qe4$q1d@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> <5c0j6c$4ib@news.knoware.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: fsc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca In article <5c0j6c$4ib@news.knoware.nl>, Paul Harts wrote: >Hi, > >I would appreciate any advice on equipment that has proven itself as back up for black >hardware, e.g. my NeXTstation Color. Prices are not that important since a lot is at stake. >Thanks for any advice. > >Paul. >-- > ==================================================== >| harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | >| the Netherlands | probably is one | >| NeXTmail Welcomed! | | > ==================================================== > > > The solution I have gone for involves adding an external SCSI drive (1GB) and transferring that to a machine on which I have a CD Writer (they are around $900 US these days, with software), after I have dumped whatever I want to back up onto the SCSI drive. I then burn a CD-R disk with the stuff off the external SCSI. I made the mistake of choosing Intel and Adaptec CD Creator software. I'd have done better to get a PPC Mac with "Toast" which would have greatly simplified writing funny format (i.e. non-DOS) discs (disc = CD-R, DISK = other sorts of disk). My friend got the Mac and Toast and is much happier! I believe the Yamaha CD Writers to be best, but that's just my opinion. Hope that helps :) david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cleaning a NeXT printer Date: 21 Jan 1997 07:22:28 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5c1qrk$q33@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <5c0non$5ak$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: fsc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca Keywords: NeXT printer In article <5c0non$5ak$1@news.eecs.umich.edu>, Becki Kain wrote: >I've checked the NeXT-Hardware-Peripheral Faq and can't >find an answer to this one. Can I buy, from somewhere, just the >cleaning pad for a NeXT Printer? I don't need more toner, just >the pad. I'm getting ghost images when I print. > >thanks > >(please respond via email and the group) > >beckers > Much more likely you need to clean the various thin wires that control the deposition of charge on the drum. This takes a Q-tip or two and some isopropyl alcohol (accept no substitutes). Take care, and it is simple. There's a wire in the toner cartridge that needs cleaning too. There's a special little brush inside the machine (it is green -- choose the right one as there are actually two little brushes!). There are descriptions of the procedure in the User's Reference Manual chapter 16. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!newsfeed.intelenet.net!newshost.neptune.net!usenet From: Georgie Corona Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Workstation For Sale Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:16:54 -0800 Organization: Neptune.Net (Neptune Consulting Group, Inc.) Lines: 6 Message-ID: <32DB24D6.5679@neptune.net> Reply-To: gcorona@neptune.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp204.neptune.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) NeXT Color Workstation; 16mb mem, 400mb disk, 17" MegaPixel mon, sound box, mouse, keyboard, floppy drive,manuals, developers kit, lots of software, spare parts: mouse, floppy drive, batteries, etc. All in xlnt condition. $650.00 obo Call 714-893-5498 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news From: Jason Lincoln Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS Installation FAQ? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:02:43 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Lines: 5 Message-ID: <32DB4BB3.55E1@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsxy014e-ppp-17.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Is there a NeXTSTEP installation FAQ for Black hardware? Thanks, Jason #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news From: Jason Lincoln Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: NS Install on New HD? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:59:36 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <32DB4AF8.1C6A@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsxy014e-ppp-17.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) I have a NeXTstation mono with a 100MB internal hard drive that I would like to replace with a 1GB Seagate ST31230N. The new SCSI hard drive mounts fine but I do not know how to install NeXTSTEP onto it. I have NS 3.0 on cdrom and I have a NEC 6x SCSI cdrom connected to the NeXTstation and it works with the 100MB drive with NS loaded. When I boot with the new hard drive I get to a ROM monitor and I type b to boot. It examines the SCSI devices and then tries to load off of the cdrom and then craps out. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jason #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!brisinda From: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Millenium vs. Diamond Stealth 3D 3000 Date: 14 Jan 1997 07:59:20 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca Hi all, I'm in the market for a high quality video/graphics card for an Intel system running OPENSTEP and have narrowed it down to these two cards. Can anyone provide any information on the cards in a comparative capacity if possible? Can anyone supply NXBench values for the Matrox and Diamond Stealth (4MB WRAM/VRAM) or other bench marks? Shopping around I get the impression that dealers are biased against the Matrox -- due mostly to higher cost it seems as they often have a great deal of difficulty justifying there biases any other way. Anyway, any information, recommendations etc. appreciated. Please reply by email (below) as I don't read this newsgroup very often. Dale --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!hunter.premier.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-4.sprintlink.net!news.netaxis.com!comiskey From: comiskey@netaxis.com (Electric Eye) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone selling a NeXT box??? Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:58:51 -0400 Organization: Macintosh: The features of Windows 95..since 1984! Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: du-3-132.netaxis.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 I have always been curious about the NeXT cubes. I never got to use one, though. (Could never find one...). I was wondering if anyone had a WORKING NeXT system for sale - CHEAP. I know of someone who got one for only $300 a few weeks ago. If I can't find one for a very affordable price, I can just get a cheap x86 box built. I have the OS and development tools package at my disposal. Any suggestions as to where to get one or if you are willing to sell yours, let me know. thanks. -EE -- "You think you've private lives, Think nothing of the kind. There is no true escape, I'm watching all the time." -Judas Priest "Electric Eye" +++Keep the Faith and Defend It!+++ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: WTB: DSP manuals for next! Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 04:00:51 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 24 [redirected to comp.sys.next.hardware] In article , overa wrote: >Hi, > >Need DSP manuals for the next so if you have and would like to sell please >let me know. > The manual for the chip itself is just the Motorola DSP56000/DSP56001 User's Manual. I'm not sure if you can get it online at their web site, but there's a good chance (you can get, for example, most of the PowerPC books that way). If not, you'll have to find your local Motorola distributer. The books are very cheap; this one cost me something like $8 Canadian in 1993. As for the NeXT-specific stuff, memory maps and lots of examples (sometimes cryptic, like the DMA ones) are included with the MusicKit. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Mono/Greyscale? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 04:03:36 GMT References: <5benfm$m9g@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 37 In article <5benfm$m9g@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu>, Andrew Matthew Theurer wrote: > >I have a question about the mono cubes and slabs. Are these really >monochrome (black and white, no grey) or true greyscale. They're 2-bit greyscale: black, dark grey, light grey, and white. >I have >never actually used a cube or slab, so I'm just wondering. I'm >considering buying a mono cube, if it's actually greyscale. > Go for it. If you get a monitor that's in good shape they're *really* nice to sit in front of. Very sharp, chrisp display. >Also, if they are greyscale, is the only difference between >the mono's and color's just the monitor? No--way different. Cubes need the NeXTdimension board to do colour, and colour slabs have entirely different video output hardware than mono slabs (and different other things, like the memory subsystem). >Also, what are the >specs on the video signal (connector: 13w3? sync: on green?) > The colour machines use 13w3, and I seem to recall it's sync on green. The mono ones use a funky special connector. Can't remember how many pins it has--around 19 or so. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!psinntp!psinntp!news.ml.com!news From: "Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium- $209 w/2 megs WRAM Date: 21 Jan 1997 09:39:47 -0500 Organization: Merrill Lynch Lines: 26 Sender: powers@swapsdvlp02 Message-ID: References: <32DFC865.3F90@pcdiscounters.com> <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5c0mdi$hdu@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: swapsdvlp02.ny-swaps-develop.ml.com X-Newsreader: Red Gnus v0.82/XEmacs 20.0 atheurer@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Matthew Theurer) writes: > In article <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net>, Font wrote: > >Dave McGill writes: > > >>SPECIALS: > >>Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 > > >Hmm, the Micro Center store here in Chicago has this same price, but > >for the 4M WRAM version, not 2M. With the driver from NeXTanswers, it > >works well. When a retail store beats out a mail order shop, the mail > >order shop is likely overcharging for other items as well... or at > >least posting to the wrong newsgroup. > > Dell Factory Outlet in Austin,TX has these (4MB) for $149! > It is, however, an OEM (no winblows drivers, etc, who cares). > Actually, the OEM matrox's tend to be running the RAMDAC at a lower speed... the Retail is at 220Mhz, I believe the OEM cards run at 170. This is of no significance unless you have a big screen that you run with lots of colors (i.e. Figure greater than 1152x1024 at 16b color) -- Brent B. Powers Merrill Lynch powers@ml.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!pasteur.fr!oleane!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!03-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.tuwien.ac.at!news From: wolfgang@neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Pusch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100 PCI, 3COM 3C900 10/100 PCI Date: 21 Jan 1997 17:53:33 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5c2vqt$23d@news.tuwien.ac.at> Reply-To: pusch@email.tuwien.ac.at NNTP-Posting-Host: neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at Do the ethernet cards "Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100 PCI", and "3COM 3C900 10/100 PCI" work reliable together with NeXTstep 3.3, 4.1, respectively? Anybody using one of them? - Wolfgang #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: 15 Jan 1997 02:27:15 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5bhfa3$jue@news.us.net> References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) wrote: > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing >with Dimension? On Intel machines, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP does not utilize any hardware acceleration operations on today's video boards. Instead, it completely relies on the CPU to do all the drawing and bandwidth from system memory to display memory (usually across the I/O bus, such as VESA or PCI) determines the other part of the video speed question. On a NeXTdimension system, the i860 processor on the dimension board is tapped to do some operations, however the Postscript window server still runs on the 68040 CPU. That means that for some operations, especially complex Postscript drawing, an Intel Pentium or better will easily outperform the NeXTdimension due to pure CPU horsepower difference. Also, for pure video bandwidth, PCI outperforms the NeXTbus, again weighing in favor of the PC's. 3DKit graphics and some NXImage operations may be faster on the NeXTdimension however. That is why the NXBench results are better on most PC's with local bus video. This is especially noticable if you run X, Executor, or SoftPC on the NeXTdimension. Finally, while there is only one way to screw up the performance of a NeXTdimension (namely, configure a mono monitor as the main monitor), there are a multitude of ways to configure fast components to run slowly on the Intel side. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### From: Dale Pippert Organization: Taratec Development Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color printer work with mono black station? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: zaphod.taratec.com Message-ID: <32e53b57.0@news.dca.net> Date: 21 Jan 97 21:55:35 GMT Lines: 10 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.dca.net!zaphod.taratec.com If I buy a color bubble jet printer, and use eXTRPRINT, can I print color from my MONO Next black computer? Or will everything necessarily be rendered in black and white on the color printer, even if the image has color in it? Much thanks for your help! dpippert@taratec.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium- $209 w/2 megs WRAM Date: 21 Jan 1997 17:13:13 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5c3m2p$83s@xmission.xmission.com> References: <32DFC865.3F90@pcdiscounters.com> <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5c0mdi$hdu@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961006] Andrew Matthew Theurer wrote: : In article <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net>, Font wrote: : >>SPECIALS: : >>Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 : Dell Factory Outlet in Austin,TX has these (4MB) for $149! : It is, however, an OEM (no winblows drivers, etc, who cares). Some/all of the OEM Millenia (Milleniums?) have 175 MHz instead of 220 MHz RAMDACS. Caveat emptor. ............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: HELP: NS Install on New HD? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <32DB4AF8.1C6A@us.oracle.com> <5bgb3g$jqu@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:50:54 GMT Lines: 20 In article <5bgb3g$jqu@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Gary Finley wrote: >On 01/13/97, Jason Lincoln wrote: >>I have a NeXTstation mono with a 100MB internal hard drive that I >>would like to replace with a 1GB Seagate ST31230N... > >If you want to do a fresh install, just connect your new disk at >SCSI ID 0 and boot from the install floppy. That'll build you a new >system from CD onto your new disk. Once the system is built, you may >want to copy any customizations from your old 100 MB disk before >removing it. Finally, jumper the new disk to SCSI ID 1, so that you >have the option of connecting an external boot disk at ID 0 if >necessary in future. > This is right. My only suggestion is that you do not need to change the HD SCSI ID. Normally people set the HD to SCSI ID=1. With the help of the boot disk, just follow the instruction and you will be fine. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news.claremont.edu!not-for-mail From: Jim Kieley Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Flyback for Fimi Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:12:26 +0000 Organization: The Claremont Colleges Lines: 7 Message-ID: <32E247EA.4436@cgs.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp71.cgs.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Does anyone know if flayback transformers for NeXT Fimi 17" color monitors are available. Failing that, is it possible to use a NEC XE21 or XV 17+ with a NeXTstation color. I have the Pigtail adapter for the workstation end, but the NEC's have a VGA connector not BNC. Jim Kieley jim@cgs.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!cla From: cla@concentric.net (NORM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need Help! harddrive install Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 02:07:07 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5c3sgi$ael@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cnc134033.concentric.net Summary: Need Help! harddrive install X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 Keyword: Need Help! harddrive install I'm installing a harddrive it will be the slave drive. The way i understand it after installing it, it will be named D:\ drive and my cd rom will then be my E: drive so i need to know what to do when i run a game ect... that calls for my cd rom that use to be my D: drive? Do i have to change some settings some where? If you can help me could you E-mail me it would be best :) cla@concentric.net Norm #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!news-server.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!murdoch!kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu!smb3u From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Suggestions for PPP for NeXT LAN? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu Message-ID: Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Notre Dame, Department of Psychology Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:38:32 GMT Lines: 27 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24956 comp.sys.next.hardware:26697 Hi all- I have a small LAN at home where I do consulting (2 cubes, 1 Intel all running 3.3) and I'd like to connect to the internet through the University. They've given me the go-ahead with a small block of fixed IPs to set up a PPP link from my LAN. I'm wondering what sort of suggestions people have for the easiest and most effect way to go about this. I'd like to have a minimum maintenence solution if possible. One possible solution may be a separate box sitting on the LAN doing the routing and taking care of the POTS line. Another possibility may be a software solution sitting in one of the NeXT boxes. Does anyone have suggestions? Recommendations? Warnings? Beer? Steve --- Steven M. Boker 219-631-4941 (voice) sboker@nd.edu 219-631-8883 (fax) http://www.nd.edu/~sboker/ 219-257-2956 (home) Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 -- Steven M. Boker (219) 631-4941 (office) (219) 631-8883 (fax) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!plug.news.pipex.net!pipex!cold.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!bhars12c.bnr.co.uk!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kone!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Jaz OK, Zip Lost Ground Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:24:43 GMT References: <32E14F6C.78E8@usa.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <32E14F6C.78E8@usa.net>, Jeff Hepp wrote: >I've had a Zip drive on my NeXTStation Color for some time now and it >has worked wonderfully. Recently got a Jaz, installed the Jaz.package >from NeXT and now whenever I try to init a Zip, Console thinks its a Jaz >cart. It craps out before it's formatted and from then on says it's >unreadable. Any thoughts/experiences with this? I haven't seen NeXT's Jaz.pkg, but I can use both on my cube. I manually added a disktab entry for the Jaz drive and disk(8) correctly identifies it. The Zip drive is no problem either. I'll investigate this NeXT-supplied package, though. Sounds fishy. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.algonet.se!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!news.umbc.edu!usenet@news.umbc.edu From: Gregory Pacholczyk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Floppy frive won't read anything Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:22:12 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 6 Message-ID: <32E5A404.4C97@gl.umbc.edu> Reply-To: gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc8.umbc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: gpacho1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) i have an 040 cube that i just bought a FDD for. when i insert a disk beit dos or even annother next disk it tells me that the disk has errors and to initialize it. then it tells me that it couldn't initialize because of errors. then it spits it out. i tried several different floppies and several different drives. Help. -Greg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news.claremont.edu!not-for-mail From: ŸŸŸŸŸúÈ6·jim@acb2.cgs.edu (Jim Kieley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! 17" color MegaPixel Fades to black in 10-20 minutes Date: 21 Jan 1997 21:44:51 GMT Organization: The Claremont Colleges Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5c3dcj$9nj$1@cinenews.claremont.edu> References: <19970118225100.RAA25004@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: acb2.cgs.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) > From: rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) > Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com > Subject: HELP! 17" color MegaPixel Fades to black in 10-20 minutes > Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:51:53 GMT > I have a 17" color MegaPixel display that works just fine (no fading that I > can tell) for about 10 to 20 minutes and then it seems to "zoom in" to a > spot on the screen while simultaneously fading to black. I can't use it > then for about 6 HOURS later and then the whole cycle begins again. > Obviously it sounds like a part getting hot, but 6 hours to cool down > sounds extreme. I know Bell Atlantic has a monopoly on Black hardware > repair (any rumours on Apple changing this?) but does anyone know of the > (rough) costs of having them repair it? I REALLY love the display and > refuse to run a PC monitor on my NeXT Station. If I can't repair the > monitor then I'd rather buy another MegaPixel. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > Scott Johnson If it's a FIMI monitor there is something in NeXTAnswers (www.next.com) that references a similar problem. The source was a bad capacitor. You are better off than I, as I have a dead monitor (still in search of a flyback transformer if anyone out there has one). Jim Kieley jim@cgs.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!mindspring!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!news-in.tiac.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: BillLee@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Monitor repair Date: 21 Jan 1997 14:42:23 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5c2kkf$a20@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Reply-To: BillLee@cleaf.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp6ath.cleaf.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I have a ColorStation with (now) two monitors that either don't work at all or are "flakey". One (a 17" FIMI) has lost the horizontal sweep, and the second (a 21" Hitachi) has a blue gun that comes and goes. What is the standard mechanism for getting a NeXT monitor repaired? I called the local computer service shop and they couldn't/wouldn't help. Does anyone know of a shop that will look at/fix one of these in the east Texas area? (Dallas or Houston would be fine.) Thanks in advance. Bill Lee BillLee@cleaf.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!nntp1.best.com!mycroft From: mycroft@nntp.best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz OK, Zip Lost Ground Date: 22 Jan 1997 09:11:42 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5c4lke$i75@nntp1.best.com> References: <32E14F6C.78E8@usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shellx.best.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jeff Hepp (nexthepp@usa.net) wrote: : I've had a Zip drive on my NeXTStation Color for some time now and it : has worked wonderfully. Recently got a Jaz, installed the Jaz.package : from NeXT and now whenever I try to init a Zip, Console thinks its a Jaz : cart. It craps out before it's formatted and from then on says it's : unreadable. Any thoughts/experiences with this? I installed the Jaz formatting package and formatted a jaz drive successfully, but thereafter the machine thought everything was a jaz so I removed it. I suggest you replace the parts changed by the jaz package with the originals once your jaz disk is formatted, you don't need that stuff to actually read the jaz disk. --- alex currier | Reactiveware - Coolest t-shirt at Macworld Expo! reactive@well.com | www.reactiveware.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!server1.nw.ixe.net!wiwo.nl!awt-nl!news From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) Subject: Why is 83Hz refresh the limit for my ELSA WINNER? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: next.awt.nl Message-ID: Sender: news@AWT.NL Organisation: AWT Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:03:27 GMT Lines: 24 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:24962 comp.sys.next.hardware:26703 Under Windows NT I can run my screen at 1152*864 @90Hz or even 100Hz (I forget if 100Hz was only for 1024*768). Under NEXTSTEP however, if I hack around to tell the ELSE driver to do 90Hz, the monitor (IIYama Visionmaster Pro-17) starts to complain about too high frequencies. It looks like the driver assumes at 90Hz that also the horizontal refresh rate has to go up and thus gets over the bandwidth the IIYama monitor can handle. Does anybody know the details? -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!news-2.csn.net!bff From: bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seagate 2Gb in Black HW Problem Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:14:46 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. +1.303.296.8202 Denver Colorado Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bil86$ahl@news-2.csn.net> References: <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> <5bi299$jog$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.117.27.22 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] marcel@sysyem.de wrote: : In article <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> dwy@ace.net (David Young) writes: : > Brendan Forsyth (bff@icarus) wrote: : > : I replace the original Seagate 400mb hard drive in my Color Turbo : > : and replaced it with a Seagate Hawk 2XL. All is going fine except : > : that the system only reports half of the drive available. It : > : reports the correct size during boot, and when I did the install : > : it reported the proper size of the drive but during operation it : reports : > : only one Gig. : > : > Irritating, isn't it? : > : > During installation, partition your drive into two 1G partitions. : > Mount one at /Local, then symlink /LocalApps and all that on to it. : Hmm, this is the Seagate Hawk on my cube: : Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on : /dev/sd0a 1890644 1330001 371578 78% / : /dev/sd0b 138957 9 125052 00% /clients : /private/vm/swapfile 1890644 1330001 371578 78% : /private/vm/swapfile.front : So, although my disk is also partitioned, it certainly has more than one : gig in the primary partition. I have to admit that I don't know why the : first poster is having problems. : Marcel I don't know why the system didn't let me in on the secret either. However Peter Nitezki's response was right on the money. The device is /dev/sd0b and there is the rest of my disk space. Thanks to him and his thoroughly helpful response. Hopefully, anyone else who encounters this unpredictable behavior will find this dialogue useful. Brendan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!news.sgi.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!gatech!news.niehs.nih.gov!usenet From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: system hangs while booting Date: 15 Jan 1997 14:30:37 GMT Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Lines: 82 Message-ID: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Reply-To: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: catatac.niehs.nih.gov Hi, I have a NEXTSTEP for Intel system that often freezes while booting or logging in. This seems to happen, on average, about once out of every 3 or 4 times I power on. Also, the failures seem to be related to powering off and on, rather than simply restarting without powering off. I don't know what is causing this. Does anyone have any suggestions? SETUP: I bought the system from a company that specializes in configuring NEXTSTEP for Intel systems. The basic system is a bare DEC Celebris XL 6200. The Pentium Pro 200 MHz CPU, the motherboard, the power supply, and the case came from DEC. Also, DEC provides an onboard NCR 53C810 SCSI adapter. All of the drives are SCSI. The hard drive is a 4-gb Seagate Barracuda and the CD-ROM drive is a Plextor 6Plex. There is also a Conner DAT drive on the SCSI chain. The video card is an ELSA Winner 2000 Pro/X with 4-mb of VRAM, the sound card is a SoundBlaster-16, and the network card is a Cogent EM110. I bought some extra memory from the system vendor and some more extra memory from another third party. I am running OPENSTEP 4.0. SYMPTOMS: The system freezes completely. This has occurred at various points along the boot and/or login sequence. Once I am logged into OPENSTEP, the system usually (but not always) runs for days (or even weeks). Sometimes the system freezes within seconds after I power on (i.e. when doing the first memory count). Other times it freezes after starting to load OPENSTEP, and yet other times it hangs while the login panel is displayed (either before or after I type in my account name and password). A few times it has hung shortly after logging in. WHAT I'VE TRIED: I removed the sound card and the network card early on and I have left them out. I tried various memory combinations, always filling the 4 slots required for interleaving with identical SIMMs. I tried only DEC memory, only memory from the NEXTSTEP integrator, and only memory I bought from TechWorks (aka First Tech). The system failed in all three cases. I swapped out the video card with another identical card. DEC has come out a dozen times and has swapped out the CPU, the daughter card, and the motherboard. I sent the system back to the NEXTSTEP integator, but he said he was unable to replicate my problem. DEC took the system to their shop and WAS able to replicate the problem. DEC is now going to replace the power supply, but the technician did not expect that to help. COMMENTS: I'm not an expert on hardware or software, but the fact that the system sometimes fails almost immediately after powering on suggests to me that the problem does not involve NEXTSTEP. In fact, it often fails before even getting to the SCSI adapter and/or devices. To me, the most likely suspects are the CPU, the daughter card, the motherboard, the RAM, the video card, or the power supply. We have swapped out all but the last item. Actually, we have 5 of these systems, all configured the same, and several others are having the same problem. We are using 2 of them, as they "appear" to work fine after the user successfully logins in. But I'm very worried that if we powered these systems off and on many times, then they would fail as well. I'm afraid to depend on a system that hangs so often for unknown reasons. It's quite plausible to me that there are other problems that are present, but not so apparent. Does anyone else have this same configuration? If so, I'd be interested in whether you have noticed this problem. Can anyone offer any advice? Thanks, Gregg =========================== Gregg Dinse dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov 919-541-4931 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!uunet!in3.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf_see_signature From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Monitor repair Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:23:57 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <5c2kkf$a20@news0-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 In article <5c2kkf$a20@news0-alterdial.uu.net>, BillLee@cleaf.com wrote: > What is the standard mechanism for getting a NeXT monitor repaired? I called > the local computer service shop and they couldn't/wouldn't help. I quote an old post, without quote marks ;-). ******* In article <4bjtm7$8ev@news.onramp.net>, wrote: > >It been brought to my attention that maybe people would like to know >where they could get a 'refurbished' monitor if they wanted one. I exchange >my monitors with Bell Atlantic via UPS. They send a working unit out and I use >the same packing to return the defective unit. Works for us. Their number is: >1-800-345-7950, ask for NeXT repair deparment. Bell Atlantic is now called Decision One; the NeXT service center can be reached at 800/325-6398, though the above number may work as well. Once I found the above number (most Bell Atlantic folk that I spoke with locally didn't know anything about NeXT) I was very pleased with my dealings with them. I had an old N4000 that was sorely in need of a pair of glasses, and after calling them I had a refurbished N4000 in a couple of days. I was told they are replacing the original CRT with an updated version which has an expected life of 50,000 hrs rather than the 20,000 of the original, I didn't hear or ask about any other updates being done to the monitor. The replacement monitor is clean and sharp, a real treat for the eyes! Bottom line is that the exchange price was $389 plus tax and return shipping. Larry Fahnoe AT&T Wireless Services System & Network Manager 7900 S. Xerxes Ave, Suite 301 larry.fahnoe@attws.com 612/832-7616 Minneapolis, MN 55431 ******** As for the intermittent Hitachi gun, I've had the same problem on occasion. Appears to be a cable or connector issue, since jiggling the cable makes it go away. I don't know of any way to isolate it, short of replacing the monitor and cable. But, if jiggling it cures it, replacement isn't going to prove anything. Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Dan Tortorici Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz format problem starts under NS Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:27:15 -0700 Organization: Netcom Lines: 53 Message-ID: <32E623C3.6A1F@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: dtort@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: phx-az6-12.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jan 22 6:42:59 AM PST 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) I have an originally DOS formatted cartridge that worked fine in W95. I tried to format it under NS and came up with the following (from both the shell and console). I would conclude bad media but I know this cart was originally OK. I have been able to use the Jaz with other disks previously. I seem to recall a similar post a few months back. If I now try to format it with Jaz format under W95 it proceeds normally but does not format. Anything else to try? Been there before? thanks, Dan ------------------------- spectrum:1# sdform /dev/rsd1a device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 1021 MBytes ***FORMATTING THIS DISK CAUSES ALL DISK DATA TO BE LOST*** This will take approximately 34 minutes. Do you wish to proceed? (Y/anything) Y Disk Format in progress... ....Retrying with cdb->fc_dlf = FMTD_INDEX ....rtn = 0(d) sr_io_status = 2H sr_io_status = 2 ; check status, sr_esense valid sense key = 03H sense code = 31H Sense Data: 000: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 11 00 00 00 00 31 83 00 00 010: 00 00 2E 4E 01 2E 35 00 00 SCSI status = 02H Format command failed sr_io_status = 2 ; check status, sr_esense valid SCSI status = 02H ***FORMAT UNIT COMMAND FAILED*** spectrum:2# From the Console: ------------------ Software Version 3.3 (Lightning9I) DISK UNFORMATTED Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9 sd1 (4,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x31 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x4 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!panix!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: lucifer Mixmaster Remailer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Apple Support of NeXT Products Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:23:39 -0500 Lines: 33 Message-ID: <199701221323.IAA03478@dhp.com> X-Mail2News-User: lucifer@dhp.com X-Mail2News-Path: dhp.com X-Comment1: This message did not originate from the X-Comment2: above address. It was automatically remailed X-Comment3: by an anonymous mail service. Please report X-Comment4: problems or inappropriate use to X-Comment5: > Dear NeXT Customer: > > As you know, Apple is in the process of acquiring NeXT Software, Inc. > [...] > > Cross Platform Support. Apple will maintain NeXT's commitment to > cross-platform and cross-processor support, and will continue to develop, > sell, and support products currently available, including those for Windows > NT, Solaris, HP-UX, and NEXTSTEP. In addition, we plan to add support with > Rhapsody on PowerPC processors. Cross platform support for WebObjects and > OpenStep aligns perfectly with Apple's overall strategy of moving core > software technologies such as QuickTime cross platform. > [...] > > Thank you and best regards, > > Dr. Gil Amelio > Chief Executive Officer > Apple Computer, Inc. > > > So, what's the story for black (motorola) hardware? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.indiana.edu!news.indiana.edu!not-for-mail From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2nd hard drive in NeXt Station Date: 22 Jan 1997 10:06:33 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5c5adp$9g2@sawshark.cs.indiana.edu> References: <32E22713.5777@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sawshark.cs.indiana.edu In article <32E22713.5777@sprintmail.com>, Raymond L. Ehrlich wrote: >... >Can anyone in the group give me advise on how to temporarily install the >faulty hard drive into the NeXT Station with the working 105 Mbyte drive >installed? The installation would be temporary. I just want to see if I >can repair the 405 mbyte drive with NeXt Step 2.2.installed. Both drives >are original drives that came with NeXT Stations. >... The only real trick here is finding the right jumper to change the SCSI ID number of the corrupted drive to something higher. It may be obvious just from looking at it, or you may need help in looking it up. I don't know what model 405 MB drives NeXT used. Assuming you can change the SCSI ID, all you need are a SCSI cable and power supply. Depending on what you have available, you could power the drive from its original NeXTStation power supply, or from a spare PC power supply. The SCSI cable could be a piece of ribbon cable with an extra connector, or you can kludge up something to adapt from the back panel SCSI-2 connector to the drive's ribbon connector. If the cable adds more than a few inches, you'll also need to be able to plug a terminator onto the far end. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Beginner questions Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 04:45:42 GMT References: <32DC8CF9.4B50@friday.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 93 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26710 comp.sys.next.misc:24760 In article <32DC8CF9.4B50@friday.com>, Bill Bumgarner wrote: >James Felix Black wrote: >> 1. How necessary is the OD? The system has a defective drive. Can it >> be easily replaced? How much should I expect to pay for one? > >OD-- not necessary, get a Jaz drive... they are faster, more reliable, >and plug-and-play with anything (but a windoze box). > Just a comment. It's been said before but I'll say it here again just to be safe: Jaz drives need a disktab entry, which you can get from my web page or NeXTanswers. Zip drives *DO NOT*. >> 2. Does a cube support the floppy drive? If so, how much should I >> expect to pay for one? > >Yes-- as long as it is an '040 and not one of the old '030. Don't know >how much you'd have to pay... a cube can do 2.8 MB floppies-- which is >beyond the PC standard of 1.4. Sam Goldberger could tell you-- hunt >down Spherical Solutions (right?). > Right. I've seen the Sony ones for $100 or so. >Yes; And if you don't mind running single-headed, a ND+cube with lots >of memory on both (say 64 MB on both) is STILL the fastest 32 bit >graphics machine around [discounting custom hardware like >SillyGraphics and such]... truly awesome. > You figure? I haven't used modern PC-based 32-bit solutions, but I find this impressive. Not that I mind--I enjoyed many years of seeing peoples' faces when dragging windows around on my ND--but still? Nifty! >As well, simply add a secondary caching DNS server to the Linux box >and-- if you want to get really fancy-- a proxy web server and mail >transport agent, and you have yourself one bitchin' LAN... > Yeah--guess I should get a crappy 386 to stick in the closet. And some IP addresses... >Upgrade to [at least] 3.3-- it is better and is what MOST of the >community that isn't using 4.1 is currently using. > There's some argument as to whether 3.2 or 3.3 is faster if you have a Dimension board. I have 3.2 on mine and am happy (with 32/36MB) and I've never used 3.3 on one. I have FoundationUserPatch installed so I can run 3.3-ish apps, but I have no need to develop Foundationised stuff. >My cube has been moved six times, been struck by lightning twice, has >been kicked, jumped on, fallen down a [short] flight of stairs, and >still works perfectly. > Only problem is that if the paint gets scratched off the case you're left with this really ugly yellow-ish colour. :( >The B&W monitors tend to fade with time. The 17" color monitors suck >(well, most of 'em, but that's a long story). The 21" monitors are >excellent. > Monochrome monitors with no mic on the front (model N4000) are the most likely to fade. Add a microphone and oyu get N4000A--they're not bad--I've used one from the summer of 1992, pretty much 24/7 since then that's still nice. The ADB monitors (likely not what you'll get with your cube)--the N4000B--apparently used a higher- quality cathode and solved the fading problem. The 21" moitors (Hitachi, aren't they?) are possibly the nicest non-Trinitron 21" I've ever seen. Even after 5 years mine is really nice. >There is a very good reason why NeXT won many awards for the design of >the hardware... No company has *ever* built a machine as well as NeXT >built the cube and the subsequent stations. [At least, none that I'm >aware of-- if you are, please point me to 'em... I LOVE well built >'wares, be it hard or soft.] > I'd agree with this. My cube is one of the most useful things (and just all around "nice") things I've ever bought. BTW, the Oberheim Xpander is built almost as well as NeXT black hardware. It's not a computer, but you asked. :) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Beginner questions Message-ID: <1997Jan15.091843.664@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: felix@queequeg.uchicago.edu Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:18:43 GMT Lines: 67 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26711 comp.sys.next.misc:24761 In James Felix Black wrote: > > 1. How necessary is the OD? The system has a defective drive. Can it > be easily replaced? How much should I expect to pay for one? Don't bother about the OD. Try to clean it (there are docs on some ftp-servers) and if it still doesnt work, get some other backup device. > > 2. Does a cube support the floppy drive? If so, how much should I > expect to pay for one? SCSI-Floppys work well. > > 4. I have a USR 33.6 sportster sitting around ... but the NeXT serial > situation makes me nervous: can an '040 cube drive a serial port fast > enough, or should I invest in a cheapo PC and route PPP to ethernet > (suboptimal)? You can drive the port with 33.8 which is OK when downloading compressed files, otherwise you have some slow down. Actually the port can be driven with 56k, but then you might get overrun errors. > > 5. How much RAM should I outfit this sucker with, at a minimum? I > think that it's running 3.1 (?), and I am interested in developing. min 16MB. > > 6. How reliable are the cubes, generally speaking? Very reliable, much better than average PC hardware. > > 7. How is the NeXT printer, generally speaking? Print quality, > reliability, noise, etc. I use it seldom, the qualitity (400 dpi) is good for some years already. > > 8. I'm an Emacs/mh user, and while I can -- and some would argue, > should -- adjust, I would like at least some of my working enviroment > available. How is the range of Unix standard packages that support > NeXT? I'm thinking about things like pgp, lynx, python, perl. I am > happy to get by without X, but the thought of giving up emacs gives me > the cold sweats. The standard unix utilities work well on NeXT. The problem is Emacs: There exists a native port to NeXTSTEP but this is (I beleive) emacs 19.28. I run the latest emacs (compiles without problems) on co-Xist X-Emulator on Nextstep. This is not the fastest solution, but as I also regard emacs as the most necessary tool on every machine - what alternative do I have ..... > > 9. How wierd (meaning "not so much like Unix as you'd expect") is the > working environment? It is 99% BSD unix. A few exceptions exist. Software which is written for SYS-V need some tweaking. But almost everything on the net is running on NeXT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: system hangs while booting Date: 15 Jan 1997 18:53:37 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 128 Message-ID: <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Reply-To: far@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: whx-ca6-14.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jan 15 12:53:37 PM CST 1997 Say, nice hardware. A while back I had a Micron P133 that exhibited most of the symptoms you describe. I was convinced that the problem was on the motherboard (based on the symptoms), yet replacing that with one sent to me by Micron had no effect. I pretty much went through all of the steps your suppliers have run through and still the problem persisted. The SCSI drive in this machine was a Fujitsu 7200rpm. This thing is a heater. A few weeks before I had added a 640MO drive to this computer, thereby, reducing the already poor ventilation the main drive was getting. This must have precipitated some type of failure in the drive's control electronics. The failure in the drive's control electronics interacted with the system's Adaptec 2940UW and would cause the symptoms you describe. I must admit I am still amazed that a failure in the control circuitry of one SCSI drive could cause the problems I saw. I found the problem when I temporarily installed an IDE drive in the system and all was well. I called Fujitsu and they sent me a new drive the next day (the drive was 8mo old). The system has worked beautifully since, although it now has an IDE drive. I now run that Fujitsu 4.3gig 7200rpm SCSI drive in an ATX case where it gets plenty of air. Btw, its trivial to test the output of standard PC switching power supplies with an ordinary Oscilloscope so I really doubt that is you problem. In article <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) writes: >Hi, > >I have a NEXTSTEP for Intel system that often freezes while >booting or logging in. This seems to happen, on average, >about once out of every 3 or 4 times I power on. Also, the >failures seem to be related to powering off and on, rather >than simply restarting without powering off. I don't know >what is causing this. Does anyone have any suggestions? > >SETUP: >I bought the system from a company that specializes in >configuring NEXTSTEP for Intel systems. The basic system >is a bare DEC Celebris XL 6200. The Pentium Pro 200 MHz >CPU, the motherboard, the power supply, and the case came >from DEC. Also, DEC provides an onboard NCR 53C810 SCSI >adapter. All of the drives are SCSI. The hard drive is a >4-gb Seagate Barracuda and the CD-ROM drive is a Plextor >6Plex. There is also a Conner DAT drive on the SCSI chain. >The video card is an ELSA Winner 2000 Pro/X with 4-mb of >VRAM, the sound card is a SoundBlaster-16, and the network >card is a Cogent EM110. I bought some extra memory from >the system vendor and some more extra memory from another >third party. I am running OPENSTEP 4.0. > >SYMPTOMS: >The system freezes completely. This has occurred at >various points along the boot and/or login sequence. Once >I am logged into OPENSTEP, the system usually (but not >always) runs for days (or even weeks). Sometimes the >system freezes within seconds after I power on (i.e. when >doing the first memory count). Other times it freezes >after starting to load OPENSTEP, and yet other times it >hangs while the login panel is displayed (either before or >after I type in my account name and password). A few times >it has hung shortly after logging in. > >WHAT I'VE TRIED: >I removed the sound card and the network card early on and >I have left them out. I tried various memory combinations, >always filling the 4 slots required for interleaving with >identical SIMMs. I tried only DEC memory, only memory from >the NEXTSTEP integrator, and only memory I bought from >TechWorks (aka First Tech). The system failed in all three >cases. I swapped out the video card with another identical >card. DEC has come out a dozen times and has swapped out >the CPU, the daughter card, and the motherboard. I sent >the system back to the NEXTSTEP integator, but he said he >was unable to replicate my problem. DEC took the system to >their shop and WAS able to replicate the problem. DEC is >now going to replace the power supply, but the technician >did not expect that to help. > >COMMENTS: >I'm not an expert on hardware or software, but the fact >that the system sometimes fails almost immediately after >powering on suggests to me that the problem does not >involve NEXTSTEP. In fact, it often fails before even >getting to the SCSI adapter and/or devices. To me, the >most likely suspects are the CPU, the daughter card, the >motherboard, the RAM, the video card, or the power supply. >We have swapped out all but the last item. > >Actually, we have 5 of these systems, all configured the >same, and several others are having the same problem. We >are using 2 of them, as they "appear" to work fine after >the user successfully logins in. But I'm very worried that >if we powered these systems off and on many times, then >they would fail as well. I'm afraid to depend on a system >that hangs so often for unknown reasons. It's quite >plausible to me that there are other problems that are >present, but not so apparent. > >Does anyone else have this same configuration? If so, I'd >be interested in whether you have noticed this problem. >Can anyone offer any advice? Thanks, > >Gregg > >=========================== >Gregg Dinse >dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov >919-541-4931 -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news.mid.net!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fast ROM-password removal (Was: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem.) Date: 15 Jan 1997 18:56:53 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: mathlab44.unl.edu In article <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) wrote: > > In article , > > Peter Nitezki wrote: > > >2. "Standalone boot is guarded by a password you dont know". > > > Pull the power cord, open the box and remove the lithium battery on > > > the main board for an hour or two. In my experience, it only takes 10-15 minutes after you remove the bettery to rest the hardware password. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Connecting Next monitor to PC Date: 22 Jan 1997 16:58:29 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c5gvl$1b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: animas.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) I have a NeXT monitor I'd like to use with a PC. I've heard that there is some kind of adapter for this. I would appreciate any pointers to where I might find this adapter. Thanks. -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Apple Support of NeXT Products Date: 22 Jan 97 13:13:27 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <199701221323.IAA03478@dhp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.60.204 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Wed, Jan 22, 1997 8:23 AM, lucifer Mixmaster Remailer wrote: > So, what's the story for black (motorola) hardware? If Apple is smart (questionable but the purchase of NeXT might give us some hope), then it will support the hardware and release an Apple black box contemporaneous with the release of the new OS. The marketing possibilities are enormous. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!howland.erols.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!hunter.premier.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.att.net.hk!elausrv2.att.net.au!nsw.news.telstra.net!tpgi.com.au!usenet From: jantone@tpgi.com.au Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FS: WangDAT 4mm DAT Clearance!! COD in Australia, VISA Welcome Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 17:34:47 GMT Organization: A Customer of TPG Internet Pty Ltd Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mel-ppp-071.tpgi.com.au X-Newsreader: Quarterdeck Message Center [1.1] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26716 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16079 comp.sys.next.misc:24767 The following 4mm DAT drives are available to clear; WangDAT DX3400 4mm DAT Internal 4GB native (DDS-2) up to 16GB with compression) ASKING ONLY US$759 (COD in Australia) Brand New!! But reduced warranty! WangDAT 3200 4mm DAT Internal 2.1GB native (up to 4GB with compression) ONLY US$599 (COD in Australia) Can accept VISA/MC For more details Email or ph/fx:61-3-94299346 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeWBIE Questions Date: 22 Jan 97 13:54:47 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 28 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.60.204 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26717 comp.sys.next.software:27540 I just received my NeXT Cube with Dimension board yesterday and began playing with it. I love this machine and this software. However, as usual, I have a few questions adn would appreciate any information: 1. I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.3 user and 3.2 developer but I don't have the install disks. Is there any way to back up this machine so that it can be reinstalled in the case of a crash? 2. Is there any way to get software for NEXTSTEP from the internet to connect this thing to an Appletalk Ethernet network which I have here with an Apple Server. 3. I have an ADB system, but this thing came with the worst mouse I have ever used. It's a NeXT mouse made in 1992 and is hemispherical with a wedge shape in the front end and two buttons on it. Is there such a thing as a NeXT ADB mouse designed like the original square mouse? Thanks for the help, Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!news From: "T.E. Biesinger" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: IBM ThinkPad 560 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:59:35 +0000 Organization: Cambridge University Engineering Department Lines: 29 Message-ID: <32DD4537.22B1@eng.cam.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: punch.eng.cam.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/715) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26718 comp.sys.next.software:27541 Hi! Does anybody else use an IBM ThinkPad 560 running OPENSTEP 4.0 out there? I would like to make your contact anyway to exchange experience. Here are some of my problems: 1. I am having trouble with the power mode switching using eg Fn 11 for hybernation mode. All others Fn keys work as root only! 2. The pg up and pg down keys do not work. 3. The CD player using the ESS driver set to 'CD' as input does nothing. 4. The power management does not seem to exploit the power saving functions of the hard disk switching it off when not needed. The cannot be set in the preferences either. Thanks a lot! -- --- Dr. Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. PGP-2.6.i key available! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!enews.sgi.com!ames!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!usenet@news.umbc.edu From: Gregory Pacholczyk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Floppy frive won't read anything Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:46:35 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 10 Message-ID: <32E6365B.23D1@gl.umbc.edu> References: <32E5A404.4C97@gl.umbc.edu> Reply-To: gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc8.umbc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: gpacho1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Gregory Pacholczyk wrote: > > i have an 040 cube that i just bought a FDD for. when i insert a disk > beit dos or even annother next disk it tells me that the disk has errors > and to initialize it. then it tells me that it couldn't initialize > because of errors. then it spits it out. i tried several different > floppies and several different drives. Help. > -Greg now it only reads NeXT disks but not dos disks. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.dra.com!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: About Dimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:27:43 GMT References: <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 36 In article <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, Jiunn-jye Huang wrote: > Recently I am interested in the Dimension board, and I have some >questions about it. > Dimension has a NTSC input,right? Right. >Could the port do realtime >video digitization? I mean can I convert a video tape(VHS) to Quick Time >Movie on the fly? :) No. There's no compression hardware on the ND, and the NeXTbus (and/or the relevant software) can't sustain full uncompressed video. You can get about 4-5fps. >And does it has a NTSC output port? Yes. >And is there >any other good features on Dimension? It's a beautiful 32-bit display, with acceleration of some parts of the Display PostScript rendering process. I really like mine. > Last question, where can I find useful information about all features >of Dimension? If you can track down the NeXT Hardware FAQ there's info in there. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!news2.du.gtn.com!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!news.knipp.de!lilly.ping.de!vergil!lars From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) Subject: Re: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Message-ID: Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) Reply-To: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany References: <5b4s1n$a8i$1@Venus.mcs.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:55:15 GMT Lines: 33 In article <5b4s1n$a8i$1@Venus.mcs.net> font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: > font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: > >Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: > > >SB16: I have the non-PnP version, but am getting no sound out of it. > >Do the IRQ and DMA settings need to be manually configured with the > >installation software, or does NEXTSTEP find and set the card up > >itself? > > NEXTSTEP finds the card fine. The DIAGNOSE.EXE utility passes the > card on all tests, with default settings (220/330/IRQ5/DMA1,5). And > still no sound under NEXTSTEP with 3.30 and 3.32 drivers. Blech! For > my next trick, I'll ask if anyone has gotten a SB 16 clone such as the > Shark Multimedia Mako II to work under NEXTSTEP with the SB 16 driver. > (It's PnP, though, so maybe sound is a lost cause.) > > -- > font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes. Try the 3.34 driver. i had the same problem, my solution was to diable pnp-support. ciao lars -- ------------------------------------------------------------ * Lars-Ulrich Kahl NeXT-Mail please! lars@vergil.ping.de * * Lars-Ulrich.Kahl@FernUni-Hagen.de * * B L A C K B O X - NeXT Club Schwerte * * The Interpersonal Computer Club * * next-club-schwerte@vergil.ping.de * #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!taurus!adnline1873.adnc.com!user From: cward@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI bus hung Date: 21 Jan 1997 06:37:58 GMT Organization: adnc.com Lines: 24 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.158.18.73 X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.1.8 How do I fix this? It just happened. The 040 Cube I am borrowing has two drives. SD1 is the internal Maxtor 380mb. SD0 is an external Fujitsu 640mb. I turned on the Cube and got this... Boot command: 0 Default boot device not found. NeXT> so I tell it to boot from 0, and I also tried booting from 1. I get this... boot sd(0,0,0)0 SCSI bus hung NeXT> What is this and how do I fix it? help! Chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: moving hard disks between slabs? Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:22:54 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5c63vu$idr@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: ashrafi@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: stsfac.mit.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) Just ordered a Turbo Color Slab. When it arrives, I plan to take the hard disk out of this Mono Turbo Slab, put it in the Color system, fire it up and get back to work. Is this expecting too much? Any reason to fear data loss? Will the Turbo Color machine take a single 32M 60ns SIMM, or do the SIMMs have to be banked in pairs of 70ns chips like on my present machine? Thanks for any info, Babak #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 88e0446dab54c17e86540df75cadd690 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 15:33:59 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 88e0446dab54c17e86540df75cadd690 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 26 Responding To: Daisho Original Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 06:20:46 +0000 > I noticed someone had a few for sale around here > was wondering what the bottom line was on them > ISDN adapter was black and I am not sure who makes them but it was > sold by Nextconnection (when it was) in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people have reported success with them). Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP program (as far as I know it) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a NeXTStep|OpenStep web page, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!pacbell.com!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdcc12.ucsd.edu!uape-15.ucsd.edu!llay From: enigma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anybody else have problems w/ SCSI on NSFIP 3.2? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:22:40 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 25 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: uape-15.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a general question, actually. I've been trying to reinstall NSFIP 3.2 back on my computer; however, I wasn't able to because of what appears to be SCSI connection problems. I have DPT SmartCache III with 3 SCSI HD, 1 Syquest 105 drive, 1 SCSI Zip Drive, and a SCSI CD-ROM drive. I do not understand why NS is so sensitive (or should I say over sensitive) to SCSI configurations and errors. For example, on my initial trial, it keeps giving me read block errors when reading from the CDROM (with no medium in the two removable drives). Later, with the two removable drives disconnected, trying to install NSFIP, gave me kernal panic and hence failed; with the two removable drives connected and media inserted in them, the installation then proceeds haphazardly without error. The reason I wonder about NS's over sensitivity to SCSI is that I also have Linux installed--and it gave me absolutely no error nor failure. Is this because of the brand of SCSI card that I'm using? or is my assessment correct about NS's over sensitive to SCSI? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Hacking a NeXT mouse cable Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:55:58 GMT References: <32DCF6BF.6DDE@imma.org> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 In article <32DCF6BF.6DDE@imma.org>, Dave Johnston wrote: > >Why, after opening my NeXTstation to look at the memory configuration, >does it always boot into the ROM monitor and deliver me an error which >resembles: > >"default boot device not found" > Perhaps you need to set the boot command to "sd" using the p command. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!warwick!bignews.shef.ac.uk!usenet From: mmalcolm crawford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: moving hard disks between slabs? Date: 23 Jan 1997 00:01:23 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5c69oj$jnj@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5c63vu$idr@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: mmalcolm crawford NNTP-Posting-Host: daneel.dcs.shef.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <5c63vu$idr@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00083 On 01/22/97, Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi wrote: > When it arrives, I plan to take the hard disk out of this Mono Turbo Slab, > put it in the Color system, fire it up and get back to work. Is this > expecting too much? Any reason to fear data loss? > I did just this, only from a color to mono station a couple of days ago. No worries. Best wishes, mmalc. -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: adb tablet connection? Date: 23 Jan 1997 00:33:59 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5c6bln$ea5@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.204.99.153 my old white manual says only 12" tablets connected to serial B are accepted. but that was before the introduction of turbo-adb hardware. will a smaller tablet connected to the adb keyboard jack, along with the mouse, be read by tablet-supporting software like tiffany2 and virtuoso? thanks for any help, chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701211448.JAA02465@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: a5f67f57686df5fe03f0ab138ce593f2 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 09:48:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Cleaning a NeXT printer (This should go in the FAQ!) Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: a5f67f57686df5fe03f0ab138ce593f2 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 32 Responding To: beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Becki Kain) Original Date: 20 Jan 1997 21:23:35 GMT > I've checked the NeXT-Hardware-Peripheral Faq and can't > find an answer to this one. Can I buy, from somewhere, just the > cleaning pad for a NeXT Printer? I don't need more toner, just > the pad. I'm getting ghost images when I print. Hey I know this one! Call Hewlett Packard (1-800-752-0900). Note: they have NO idea what a NeXT Laser Printer is. However, their cartridge #92295A is one of the suggested Toner Cartridge for NeXT Laser printers. Here's the ordering information for the pad Official Name: "Hewlett Packard Laser Printer Paper Cleaner Bar (felt lined)" Part # : RG1-0966-030CN Cost: $8, and HP pays for shipping. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! My NeXTprinter grabs several sheets at once! Date: 23 Jan 1997 02:17:06 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5c6hn2$gnf@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Reply-To: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber41.bordeaux.imaginet.fr Hi! My NeXTprinter grabs very often several sheets at once, thus jaming paper. What can I do to prevent it? __Pascal Bourguignon__ mailto:pjb@imaginet.fr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.5.212.6!electriciti.com!news From: "Bruce F. Webster" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Epson print engine in NeXTprinter Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:29:13 -0500 Organization: Bruce F. Webster and Associates, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <32E6DB09.48EE@bfwa.com> Reply-To: bwebster@bfwa.com NNTP-Posting-Host: line06.cs4.electriciti.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) OK, what's the actual Epson print engine within the NeXT 400 dpi laser printer? I need to know in order to get two dead printers repaired. Please reply to the address below or to g8ubew@fnma.com. Thanks! ..bruce.. -------------------------------------- bruce f. webster | bwebster@bfwa.com | Bruce F. Webster and Associates, Inc.| http://www.bfwa.com/~bwebster | -------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!boulder!jove!yew From: yew@jove.seas.ucla.edu (Wenming Ye) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: urgent help with CDROM Date: 23 Jan 1997 05:22:17 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5c6si9$okc@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.colorado.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Recently, our CDROM for a next computer broke. Does anyone know what kind of cdrom drive would work on the original black next hardware? I tried a toshiba, (for sgi and sun), but it did not seem to work. I know that some old apple drive will work, but if we were to purchase a new one, what kind would you recommand ? Thanks in advance, Wenming Ye #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!demos!news.uni-stuttgart.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!not-for-mail From: Fabian Braun Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PC Mouse with black Hardware Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:52:18 +0100 Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Lines: 17 Message-ID: <32DDEC42.50E1@stud.phys.ethz.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: tfphp10.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/715) Hello Out There!! Can anybody tell me if it is possible to use a PC mouse with a NextStation by connecting it to one of the serial ports. Probably one would need driver software. Do such drivers exist? Where can I get one? A different solution might be connecting a PC mouse to the keyboard/mouse port of the NextStation (non ADB). Did Next use some kind of (common) standard for the mouse interface? Do third parties offer mice for the Next Hardware? Thanks for helping me out, Fabian #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news1.best.com!idiom.com!idiom.com!jcr From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Possible to use monochrome monitor on color turbo (non-adb) Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:02:12 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <5bgg6d$jot@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) writes: >Is it possible to use a monitor from a turbo monochrome on >a color turbo? My monitor needs replacement and a used one >costs too much. No. -jcr #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!cold.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!bhars12c.bnr.co.uk!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Varieties of NeXT color monitors? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:38:31 GMT References: <5c02c8$14d@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 37 In article <5c02c8$14d@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi wrote: >Would someone please explain the differences between NeXT color monitors for >someone who owns an N4000 mono monitor? > >Are there 21" color Megapixel monitors? Yes. Made, I think, by Hitachi. They're actually very good for non- Trinitron monitors. >What is the difference between Fimi and Trinitron? One uses Sony's Trinitron tube (very sharp and nice) while the other uses something else (not so sharp and nice). >Do Fimi and Trinitron monitors have speakers? No. No NeXT colour monitors have speakers. They all use an external wedge called the "sound box". >Are there any gotcha's for color monitors, like the fading problem for N4000 >and N4000A (I know color monitors don't fade, but anything else to watch out >for?) Not really. Just watch out for fuzziness. >What is a soundbox? > It does lal the non-video stuff. The speaker and mic are here, as are the external audio connectors and the keyboard connector. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!cold.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!bhars12c.bnr.co.uk!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: using bsd(?,0,0) to boot? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:35:42 GMT References: <5bvubt$h82@news.tamu.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 23 In article <5bvubt$h82@news.tamu.edu>, Stephen Johnson wrote: >So, although I shouldn't have to I enter the boot command as > >bsd(2,0,0)rootdev=sd2 or bsd(2,0,0)rootdev=sd2a > >and it comes back says something to the effect of blk0 boot not found. > This will try to boot from the kernel named rootdev=sd2; not really what you want. You can fix this by saying something like bsd(2,0,0)- rootdev=sd2a I think that's it. Check the "Startup and Shutdown" chapter in the NextAdmin documentation to be sure. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701151353.FAA17785@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 09c97b53ed816bf30d4d99ac14cf6236 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:52:44 -0500 Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 09c97b53ed816bf30d4d99ac14cf6236 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 46 my .02: CD-ROM: I have el cheapo CD-ROM that I got awhile back and it has worked fine (never played music through it, I've got a stereo for that about 3 feet from here) Internal Sony 4x CD-ROM (# CDU76) (pay no more than $100) AND External case for above CD-ROM (#CS-EXTDR1) ($48) Call 1-800-REAL-PCS (ASA Computers). I'm using this CD-ROM and case, and so is someone else I met here, and no problem whatsoever. (those prices may even be lower now) === BACKUPS: I've got a nightly backup script that I wrote working with my SyQuest EZ135 drive. It is designed to backup all the files which have changed since the last time the backup was run, and it works fairly well (ie no problems since November). The EZFlyer230 will cost you around $230 after the $55 mailin rebate (offer ends Feb 28th) NOTE: goto http://www.syquest.com and checkout the rebate form and the trade in offer (ie they will give you $100 for any old drive towards the purchase of a EZFlyer, the drive doesn't have to work!!!!!!!!) No, you _can't_ get the mailin rebate and the trade-in offer The EZFlyer is truly p&p w/NeXT hardware, no disktab, etc. There's also the SyJet 1.5gig/cart that sells for $500 (external, I think the internal is $400, again, see their web page). Both of these are going to be as fast as your hard drive, or even faster. Just my thoughts. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!news From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 23 Jan 1997 07:35:24 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm170-09.dialip.mich.net X-MSUnetID: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) Hi, could anyone tell me the advantages of a NeXTstation Color Turbo over a non-ADB version? Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701151355.FAA17924@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 7d321434e621bc0e08c212be61608ece - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:55:06 -0500 Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 7d321434e621bc0e08c212be61608ece - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 21 Responding To: nineteen@onramp.net (Richard C. Logan) Original Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:28:43 -0600 > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a > NextStation? yes, it can, no disktab needed. You just plug in and go. Were I to buy a drive today, I'd probably go for the EZFlyer230 (see my other post "re: PD Drives on Black??" that I just sent off for more) which also "just works" with NeXT hardware. let me know if you need more info, I've got an EZ135 right here TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!masternews.telia.net!newssrv.ita.tip.net!ubnsrv.unisource.ch!scsing.switch.ch!rzunews.unizh.ch!lkil From: lkil@mws.unizh.ch (Lorenz Kilchenmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Which MIDI-Interface works? Date: 16 Jan 1997 11:00:07 GMT Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5bl1nn$ao4@rzunews.unizh.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: rzurs10.unizh.ch X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I'm looking for a MIDI-Interface for my 68040-Cube. I heard, that some Mac-Interfaces will work, if they're modified the right way. I tried this with a Steinberg MicroMidi, but I failed. Does anyone know about a company selling "native" NeXT-MIDI-Interfaces? Please send any information to: lkil@rzuaix.unizh.ch Thank you, Lorenz #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!cbgw2.lucent.com!cbgw1.lucent.com!cnn.Princeton.EDU!usenet From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Date: 16 Jan 1997 14:35:47 GMT Organization: Princeton University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5blec3$mrg@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: Reply-To: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) NNTP-Posting-Host: zandtwerk.princeton.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) Cc: nineteen@onramp.net In Richard C. Logan wrote: > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? > In comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? Plug'n'play. Even easier than a zip (but both are easy) because it has standard size scsi connectors and the included disk is not software write protected. Fast, quiet. Beats zip by large margins in performance, but the EZ drive and disks are bulkier and heavier and less widespread than zip. Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.icm.edu.pl!ict.pwr.wroc.pl!news.apk.net!jchan From: jchan@apk.net (Jerome Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TouchScreen on OpenStep/Mach for Intel machine? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:39:20 -0500 Organization: TofuSoft Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pm5-21.apk.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Is it possible to hook up a touch screen to an OpenStep/Mach for Intel machine? --- The Evil Tofu (Only Human) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!silpics.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: Micheal Delver Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting jaz drive Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:02:57 +0000 Lines: 8 Message-ID: <32E7361A.6D04@demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: silpics.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: silpics.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anone advise me on installing an external 1g Jaz drive on Black Hardware running 3.2. Using the supplied scsi2 connection lead I get a parity error message on start up. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!news.io.com!fnord!news.fc.net!digdug.pswtech.com!usenet From: robin@pswtech.com (Robin Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:50:00 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5blm7o$q72@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomp.pswtech.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) lkjensen@dannug.dk wrote: } Hi } } I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. } } I am using the following equipment: } } Asus P6NP5 (440FX chipset) with a 150Mhz Pentium Pro } 32 MB RAM } Quantum Fireball TM 3.2GB SCSI (1.5GB used for NeXTSTEP) } DPT PM2044W PCI SCSI controller } Matrox Millennium 2Mb WRAM PCI } Pioneer DRU124X SCSI CDROM } SoundBlaster AWE32 } ADI Microscan 5A monitor } } The problem is that almost every time, when I am trying to load NS, } the monitor shows a kind of black screen , when NS is finished loading } and should showing the login window. The monitor shows a black screen } some kind of horizontal "stripes", and if I login to NS (in blind), } there are a lot more "stripes", but still no picture. } } If I use the default video driver it worrks fine, but it is not a very } pretty resolution:-)) I doubt it is the Matrox _driver_. It might be your settings, what resolution, pixel depth and refresh rates have you tried? I'd recommend going with lower refresh rates and see if that helps. Also, try getting the latest Matrox driver from NeXTAnswers. Even the Beta drivers are quite reliable. Are you running the OmniPentiumPro driver? I've had similar problems when trying to get it configured... Send me e-mail if you are still stuck... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!serra.unipi.it!sv8.ictp.trieste.it!mac-shiekh.ictp.trieste.it!user From: shiekh@ictp.trieste.it (Andy Shiekh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ext hard drive enclosure Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:12:30 +0200 Organization: ICTP Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <32DFD9C6.209E@aquanet.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: mac-shiekh.ictp.trieste.it Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:96663 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:50820 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video:137891 comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:22769 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:61426 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:23765 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:16611 comp.sys.next.hardware:26745 In article <32DFD9C6.209E@aquanet.co.il>, hankin@aquanet.co.il wrote: > Hi! > I'm looking for ext. ide hard drive case > ( connected through parallel port ) > I've seen : > - anteck ks 510 for ~ $80 > - nexar REMOVABLE IDE HARD DRIVE CADDY for ~ $30 > - Cost effective 3.5" Parallel Port for ~ ??? > External Hard Drive Subsystem > - circo Removable Hard Drive Kit for ~ $30 > Can somebody tell me what is the best for me ( i gonna use it for > data transfer from my home PC to work one ) ? > Why is there $50 difference and what does it mean ? > > Thanks I guess the difference is the power supply. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ins.net!amg.de!postmaster From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Formating JAZ-Discs ? Date: 23 Jan 1997 12:48:05 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5c7mm5$r5j@hagen.amg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: down.amg.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi there, does anyone know, how to format a JAZ Disc (IOMEGA) under NEXTSTEP 3.3 ?? Thanks, Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Message-ID: <1997Jan16.111500.291@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: jburton@nwu.edu Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:15:00 GMT Lines: 19 A cheap backup solution I'm using: I run a Linux box with a QIC-80 Tape which you can buy for around 150$. The new Travan tapes can store several Gig and cost around 30$. The Linux ftap-driver works perfectly. The whole thing is not really fast, but for backups adequate. I do once per month a complete backup which takes about 4 hours / 800MB (using compressed afio) and some incremental Backups between. I regard this solution more reliable than the NeXT OD. BTW: Using Linux afio, even if the tape has some fault, afio can skip the damaged part and recover almost everything. This is *much* better than doing a huge tar.gz over the disk. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Message-ID: <1997Jan16.111910.354@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:19:10 GMT Lines: 20 In <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the > shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP > you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial > port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people > have reported success with them). > > Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might > work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP > program (as far as I know it) TTYDSP is connected to the DSP port, not the serial port. BTW: Every NeXT-hardware can run the serial ports at 57600, but you get overrun errors from time to time. This might not be too bad if you have the right software. Just try it. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.glink.net.hk!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fast ROM-password removal (Was: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem.) Date: 16 Jan 97 10:27:28 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-17-27.access.one.net In-reply-to: rdieter@math.unl.edu's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:56:53 GMT In article <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu>, rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes: In article <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) wrote: > > In article , > > Peter Nitezki wrote: > > >2. "Standalone boot is guarded by a password you dont know". > > > Pull the power cord, open the box and remove the lithium > > > battery on the main board for an hour or two. > > For immediate results: using a bent paperclip or small screwdriver, > > short the contacts in the batteryholder together for a few seconds. > > Voila! No password. > Voila! Fried hardware. In my experience, it only takes 10-15 minutes after you remove the bettery to rest the hardware password. But, but, what if The Bad Guys are after you, and you only have a couple seconds? You don't have time to wait for the capacitor to drain! So you use the paper clip trick, start the boot (aha, no boot password), and ... dammit, fsck, we don't have time for fsck. It's booting again, arggghhh! Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: system hangs while booting Date: 16 Jan 97 10:31:19 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-17-27.access.one.net In-reply-to: far@ix.netcom.com's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:53:37 GMT In article <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) writes: I must admit I am still amazed that a failure in the control circuitry of one SCSI drive could cause the problems I saw. I've found that NeXTSTEP is pretty sensitive to SCSI issues. My first Intel system, a 486, built by a crapball company, had a flakey SCSI disk (or controller, or whatever). It would work fine for long periods, and then it would have severe bouts of flakiness. I did some reformatting and reinstalling, and that would often fix it for awhile, but I suspect that it was some borderline problem, because it never just got to where it _worked_. Got the drive replaced, and then it worked fine. Never did figure out the exact interaction that was going on, though. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Date: 16 Jan 97 10:23:47 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 70 Message-ID: References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-17-27.access.one.net In-reply-to: jburton@nwu.edu's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:24:30 GMT In article <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > Today, you can get a $300 SCSI Travan which can hold 2Gig, while > DAT drives are still up around $700. OTOH, Travan carts are $30, > DAT carts are under $10. This is the part I don't get. Why are people saving data to tape, when it appears to have a thousand times the failure rate (per read) of optical media, and MO drives are $500 with $30 cartridges? If tape drives were $140 and tapes were $5, it might make sense to me. Or if I had _so_ much data that everything but media cost was trivial. One reason is probably that a $600 DAT can write a 2G uncompressed tape in one sitting, and with compression you can reasonably expect 3G (and if you're compressing text only, 4G or more :-). If you are only archiving 500M, well, it doesn't make much difference either way. So far as the failure rate, the way I look at it is that MO is likely to be online an order of magnitude more than something like tape. The only time my tapes are online is during the backup (and during a restore, of course). If you treated your MO as if it were a tape, then you're safe enough, naturally. But I'm not willing to recommend it in a public forum because I suspect that too many people would compromise the archival nature of an MO by using it as an extension of their random access media. This is all somewhat mooted if you have something with a WORM style filesystem and the appropriate OS support. If you can only write the media once, right there you've done yourself a tremendous favor! I wish that CD-R worked that way. > "subject to getting tangled and torn"? That's a longshot. If > the drive has a mechanical failure, then it's unlikely _any_ > choice will save the media currently in the drive. But my music tape drives have had mechanical failures at least five times in the last twenty years, and I've _never_ seen a music CD get scratched by the read head. Aren't the computer versions fundamentally the same sprocket and read-head technology? I can't say much to that, as I don't have much experience with music tapes _or_ CDs. OTOH, part of the reason DATs are expensive is because they don't share parts with consumer electronics. CDs probably do, but I don't know about MOs and the like. > Tapes are intrinsically archival. Serial access is an > _advantage_ for backup media (specifically, "backup" implies that > you aren't going to be storing files you frequently need to > access on the tape). Scott, I respect your opinions a lot, so I'd like to understand your reasoning here. What possible advantage does it confer to have my data sitting in magnetic contact with other data on a mechanically-wound reel, instead of on a platter where I can get at it and it can't corrupt itself? This is probably mostly IMHO. With tape, the data will be sitting spooled on a reel - but the tape itself is likely to be sitting in a drawer with other tapes, rather than in a drive or on your desk. MOs and other removable media are more likely to be in the drive itself, a much more dangerous position. I guess I like tape because it removes the temptation entirely, rather than requiring discipline on the part of the user. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news.service.emory.edu!news.cc.emory.edu!not-for-mail From: suzawa@curly.cc.emory.edu (Satoru M. Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:51:31 -0500 Organization: Emory University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5blpr3$4f0@curly.cc.emory.edu> References: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: curly.cc.emory.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] lkjensen@dannug.dk wrote: : Hi : : I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. : : Lars Kilsaa Jensen : E-mail: : lkjensen@dannug.dk (no NeXTMAIL) I had the exactly the same problem with my Intel machine running 3.3p1. I have Millennium with 4MB and Symbios810 based SCSI card. I had video card in the first PCI slot and SCSI card in the second and got the problem described by you. Changing PCI slots to 3rd for SCSI card and 4th for video card auto-magically fixed the problem. I'm not sure why it could fix the problem but I suspect something with Matrox driver (I'm using 3.31), PCI driver and Plug-n-Pray. Hope that your problem would be fixed in same manner. Good luck! Satoru Uzawa, uzawa@uclink4.berkeley.edu (No NeXTmail yet) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Formating JAZ-Discs Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:22:36 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 21 Message-ID: <32E77386.2D37@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5c7mm5$r5j@hagen.amg.de> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.132 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Martin Mocker wrote: > > Hi there, > > does anyone know, how to format a JAZ Disc (IOMEGA) under NEXTSTEP 3.3 ?? > > Thanks, > > Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de) To Installing NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP on a Jaz disk, Check out following Document. http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2155.htmld/2155.html YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!feed.umontreal.ca!usenet From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Power Management bug on Intel Hardware? Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:10:26 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c82hi$db0@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: epsom.jsp.umontreal.ca X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00121-01 Hi, I tried to enable power management on my Intel system running NS3.3. I set the option in Preference.app and I went into the bios and choose only to stop the video sync after 10 minutes of inactivity (this puts my monitor in power saving mode). The only wake up events I have set are mouse activity and keyboard activity. When I have just rebooted the computer and I stare at the login window for 10 minutes the power saving starts. However, when I log into my account and log out the power saving will never start. I don't know if this is related but only root has access to the power saving option, I beleive this is normal... but when I try to access the module in a non-root account I get "error while loading the module". It seems that this is a problem in NeXTSTEP because the power saving always start when I just rebooted. Anybody has a hint? Francois Magnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Bradford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: moving hard disks between slabs? Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:23:20 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5c839o$6h1@news3.texas.net> References: <5c63vu$idr@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5c69oj$jnj@bignews.shef.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: staff1.texas.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961210] mmalcolm crawford wrote: : On 01/22/97, Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi wrote: : > When it arrives, I plan to take the hard disk out of this Mono Turbo Slab, : > put it in the Color system, fire it up and get back to work. Is this : > expecting too much? Any reason to fear data loss? : I did just this, only from a color to mono station a couple of days ago. : No worries. : Best wishes, : mmalc. I did the reverse (from mono non-turbo to color adb turbo) with no problem. -- Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "Its hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!cdouty From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Syquest EZflyer on black? Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:27:22 GMT Lines: 12 Sender: cdouty@netcom21.netcom.com Has anyone used the Syquest EZflyer 230 drive on motorola hardware? How about the new SyJet 1.5GB removables? If you haven't used them on black hw, I'm interesed in general fit with NS on any platform. Thanks, Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!tgritton From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:31:17 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.174.171.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.1 In article <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: >Hi, could anyone tell me the advantages of a NeXTstation Color Turbo over a >non-ADB version? Well I have a NeXTstation mono ADB and I can use a Mac mouse ( Contour ergo) with the Next instead of the black Next mouse which would kill my hand ( RSI problem). -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com #################################################################### From: jacob@dannug.dk (Jacob Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:56:41 GMT Organization: DanNUG -- Danish NeXT User Group Lines: 51 Message-ID: <5bl8i9$fm@jnext.dannug.dk> References: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jnext.dannug.dk X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) Cc: luomat@nerc.com Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!nntp.uib.no!nntp-bergen.UNINETT.no!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!news.uni-c.dk!news-inn.uni-c.dk!news.uni-c.dk!newsfeed.cs.auc.dk!dannug.dk!jnext.dannug.dk!news In <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > I noticed someone had a few for sale around here > > was wondering what the bottom line was on them > > ISDN adapter was black and I am not sure who makes them but it was > > sold by Nextconnection (when it was) > > in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the > shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP > you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial > port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people > have reported success with them). > > Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might > work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP > program (as far as I know it) Since when was the PhoneKit and TTYDSP connected? TTYDSP is: 1. hardware, that's attached to the DSP port of black hardware allowing high throughput -- I think you can easily drive a 33k6 modem on it. 2. a little software, that makes a new "serial port" so you can use UUCP and *MorningStar* PPP. The free PPP implementation does not work with TTYDPS. 3. No longer sold and not supported (working, I suppose) under OpenStep -- meaning NS4.x at least. The ISDN adapter was also hardware and required the PhoneKit, which means you have to stay at NS3.0 (because of a conflict between the PhoneKit shared library and another shared library present in NS 3.x) And then there's the question if the adapter works with current days ISDN. If you want to use ISDN and black hardware, the way to go is a router with the NeXT connected via ethernet. Regards, Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen PGP-keyID: 1F0F3839 Email (NeXT, MIME and SUN) jacob@dannug.dk Maintainer of NEXTSTEP Software Reviews http://www.dannug.dk/jacob & My own home page :-) http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!rjacobs.Stanford.EDU!rob From: "Robert G. Jacobs" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Add a partition with Win95 on it Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:00:57 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rjacobs.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm running NS 3.3 on my pc, but need to run Win95 for a couple of things. Is there anyway I can do this without buying new hardware or reinstalling NeXTStep? In DOS/Win I could use Partition Magic to add a partition, etc. Is there a utility for NS that will allow me to do this? Thanks. Rob ########################### # Herve de GROMARD # email/NeXTmail/MIME:hgromard@x-lan.alienor.fr # # X&LAN - FRANCE # Tel:(+33) 5 56 40 89 93 Fax:(+33) 5 56 40 57 99 # ####################################################################### #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pentium Pro Date: 23 Jan 1997 21:42:35 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c8m0b$mp3@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] I'm considering purchasing a Micron Pentium Pro system. Can anyone tell me if OPENSTEP 4.0 (aka NeXTSTEP) will run on it. Also, are the abilities of the Pentium Pro put to good use (as compared to the standard Pentium)? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help: How to use NeXT monitor with PC Date: 23 Jan 1997 22:07:40 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c8nfc$3frm@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f182-058.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26763 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25003 I am looking for information on how to adapt a NeXT MegaPixel color display to use on PC hardware. I saw mention once of an adapter that will do this but can find zero info on it. I would greatly appreciate information on how to do this. -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com TEP 3.3). Optimal Object offers one pre-installed with NextStep. Info is at http://www.optimal-object.com/ under Hardware. -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news1.bellglobal.com!mail.cognos.com!usenet From: tony.slade@cognos.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help finding schematics etc. Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 00:43:43 GMT Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5c8msg$hr4@mail.cognos.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.88.70.179 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Hi, I've inherited a PC from a freind. He says that all parts are original so I will only include the model: AIC DX2_50 and serial #: 91001891 I'm trying to get any online info available so I can upgrade and/or maintain and troubleshoot. Any links to sights or newsgroups of this nature would be greatly appreciated. email is best!! tony.slade@cognos.com Regards #################################################################### Message-ID: <32E796ED.65CB@lhep.unibe.ch> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:50:53 +0100 From: Juerg Beringer Organization: Laboratory for High Energy Physics, University of Bern X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software CC: beringer@lhep.unibe.ch Subject: Access to NS/Intel boot time options Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: lhepsun1.unibe.ch Lines: 17 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!news.unibe.ch!lhepsun1.unibe.ch Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25005 comp.sys.next.misc:24811 comp.sys.next.hardware:26765 comp.sys.next.software:27599 Is it possible to access within the rc startup scripts the options entered at the NeXTStep (V3.3) boot prompt of an Intel machine? I am using e.g. config=SCSI at the boot prompt to load the device drivers according to a table SCSI.table (in /usr/Devices/System.config) instead of the standard Instance0 table. For different reasons I'd like to know in the startup scripts which options (if any) were selected. Thanks for any hints! Juerg Beringer E-mail: beringer@lhep.unibe.ch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!feed.umontreal.ca!usenet From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Suggestions for PPP for NeXT LAN? Date: 24 Jan 1997 00:12:17 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Lines: 58 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c8up1$so8@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: epsom.jsp.umontreal.ca In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00121-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25006 comp.sys.next.hardware:26766 On 01/21/97, Steven M. Boker wrote: >Hi all- > >I have a small LAN at home where I do consulting (2 cubes, 1 Intel >all running 3.3) and I'd like to connect to the internet through >the University. They've given me the go-ahead with a small block >of fixed IPs to set up a PPP link from my LAN. I'm wondering what >sort of suggestions people have for the easiest and most effect >way to go about this. > >I'd like to have a minimum maintenence solution if possible. One >possible solution may be a separate box sitting on the LAN doing >the routing and taking care of the POTS line. Another possibility >may be a software solution sitting in one of the NeXT boxes. > >Does anyone have suggestions? Recommendations? Warnings? Beer? > >Steve >--- > Steven M. Boker 219-631-4941 (voice) > sboker@nd.edu 219-631-8883 (fax) > http://www.nd.edu/~sboker/ 219-257-2956 (home) > Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 > I would suggest you pick one of the cubes to be a router and on it run SimpleNetworkStarter.app (you may need to restore the default netinfo database if you played with NetInfo). Put the right IP address and select a hostname for the server. You should choose automatic host addition. Then plug all the ethernet cables and start each other machine (while the router is running). If everything goes well you will be asked for a hostname on each host during the boot sequence (I also suppose that the machines have a virgin netinfo database and hostconfig file). Then go into Hostmanager.app on the server to set the right IP addresses for each machine. After that you can create network accounts, setup NFS file sharing, share printers,... everything you need locally. Then install PPP on the server. Don't play with HostManager.app like the instructions tell you to do. You can also set the router property on each client so it points to your server (you do not really need this I think but I did this). Hope this helps, Francois Magnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: PC Mouse with black Hardware Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:23:56 GMT References: <32DDEC42.50E1@stud.phys.ethz.ch> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 28 In article <32DDEC42.50E1@stud.phys.ethz.ch>, Fabian Braun wrote: >Hello Out There!! > >Can anybody tell me if it is possible to use a PC mouse with a >NextStation by >connecting it to one of the serial ports. Probably one would need driver >software. Do such drivers exist? Where can I get one? > You can't use one via the serial port (except on Plan 9 ;-)) >A different solution might be connecting a PC mouse to the >keyboard/mouse >port of the NextStation (non ADB). Did Next use some kind of (common) >standard >for the mouse interface? > They used the normal h/v quadrature stuff. A PC bus mouse can be used this way with, among other things, the "Mouse Tail" from computerActive. Check out http://www.computeractive.com/ -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Darryl Anton Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTERS ON NEC VERSA 6000 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:10:54 -0500 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 2 Message-ID: <32E8364E.1562@earthlink.net> Reply-To: daisho@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ip251.washington4.dc.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; U; 68K) IS THIS SYSTEM NEXTSTEP COMPATIBLE NO HASSALE TYPE INSTALATION #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!usenet From: "Andrew Kim" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem. Date: 23 Jan 97 23:05:12 +0000 Organization: Cogent Software Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p6.dsphere.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00036D59" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/1.2 X-News-Servers: news.cogent.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.hardware --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00036D59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Try hitting CONTROL-C as the machine is hunting for the network - this >seems to work on my son's Turbo running 3.3 (but I don't have the >problem on my NeXTstation also running 3.3). > Can you tell me little bit more details like what type of connections and so on. --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00036D59 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00036D5A" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00036D5A Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 12Helvetica>Try hitting CONTROL-C as the machine is hunting for the network - this >seems to work on my son's Turbo running 3.3 (but I don't have the >problem on my NeXTstation also running 3.3). >12Helvetica Can you tell me little bit more details like what type of connections and so on. --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00036D5A-- --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00036D59-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: Tom Priore Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! NeXTStep 3.3 (intel) and modems. Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:15:59 -0500 Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 57 Message-ID: <32E8377F.36BE@email.psu.edu> Reply-To: tpp109@psu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: access-ozts1p16.oz.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------F1E30D466E01" X-Sender: Tom Priore (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) X-Priority: Normal ------------F1E30D466E01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm running NS 3.3 on an intel platform and i'm having some problems getting apps to talk to my USR sporster 33.6 PNP internal modem. I beleive the modem sets it self to com 2 (port b) but i can't get anything out of it in NS. I'm pretty new to next, and I'm problaly missing some obvious things. The modem just doesn't repond to CU, TIP, or the PPP Dial up app. what is really weird is once you try to use tip on the port, the tip process locks, and can't be shut down with kill (or kill -9) the system wont even shut down because the shutdown process can disloge tip! Could my problem lay in Plug and Play, NS does find the modem durring boot up and i assume its setting it right. Any help at all will be usefull. Thanks Tom Priore tpp109@psu.edu ------------F1E30D466E01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
     I'm running NS 3.3 on an intel platform and i'm having some problems getting apps to talk to my USR sporster 33.6 PNP internal modem. I beleive the modem sets it self to com 2 (port b) but i can't get anything out of it in NS. I'm pretty new to next, and I'm problaly missing some obvious things.
    The modem just doesn't repond to CU, TIP, or the PPP Dial up app. what is really weird is once you try to use tip on the port, the tip process locks, and can't be shut down with kill (or kill -9) the system wont even shut down because the shutdown process can disloge tip!
    Could my problem lay in Plug and Play, NS does find the modem durring boot up and i assume its setting it right.
 
Any help at all will be usefull.
Thanks
Tom Priore
tpp109@psu.edu
------------F1E30D466E01-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!cmich.slip.netcom.com!cmich.slip.netcom.com!chuck From: chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISDN and NeXT Cube Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:29:30 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 26 Sender: news@cmich.slip.netcom.com Message-ID: <1997Jan24.102930.612@cmich.slip.netcom.com> Reply-To: chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: cmich.slip.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jan 24 4:58:47 AM CST 1997 Originator: news@cmich.slip.netcom.com Originator: news@cmich.slip.netcom.com Hi: I'm running one of those old cube machines and was wondering if anyone has any experience with the cube and ISDN. I'm looking for some way to connect to the internet that's faster than a 28.8 baud modem (I use the SLIP protocol). I don't think the serial port on the next was designed to handle a modem any faster than this, so I assume ISDN is the way to go. However, can I use that Ethernet connection on the back of the cube for this? I don't have much experience with internet hardware, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. - Chuck -------------------------------------------------------------- chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com NeXT Mail and MIME Mail gladly accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------------------------------------------------- chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com NeXT Mail and MIME Mail gladly accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!tudelft.nl!cyber.tn.tudelft.nl!news From: Aeldrik Pander Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Logitec Mouse on a NeXT Keyboard Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:47:34 +0100 Organization: Technical University Delft, Lab. Seismics & Acoustics Lines: 18 Message-ID: <32E89346.2C4D@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl> Reply-To: aeldrik@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: akst08.tn.tudelft.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:24815 comp.sys.next.hardware:26772 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16109 Hi, About two years ago I read some documentation on a WWW-site about wiring a Logitec bus mouse to a NeXT Keyboard. This was done by simply replacing the plug and rewiring some of the coloured wires. I really don't know where to find the site anymore (wiped bookmarks). Anyone knows about this item or can tell me more ? Cheers ! Aeldrik ------------------------------------------------------------ Aeldrik Pander aeldrik@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl Lab. Seismics & Acoustics room D252 Delft Technical University +31 15 2782021 ------------------------------------------------------------ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.erie.net!bbs7 From: cwdancer@erie.net (George De Virgilio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: gpib-board Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 05:29:02 GMT Organization: BOOTSCOOTERS Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5c9hau$9js_001@bbs7.erie.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs7.erie.net Keywords: gpib X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Help. I need to purchase a used GPIB board. I have a Howtek Scanmaster 3+ that uses General Protocol Interface Bus board. The one they recommend is a National Instruments AT-GPIB/TNT but I believe any GPIB board that supports Windoes 3.1 will work. Please email me at George #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!bfbaker From: bfbaker@netcom.com (Technom Enterprises Inc) Subject: Re: CD-Recordable? Message-ID: Reply-To: bbaker@technom.com Organization: Technom Enterprises, Inc. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <5bmv8b$1r4k@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <32E27808.246A@abacus.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:54:44 GMT Lines: 54 Sender: bfbaker@netcom.netcom.com GEOF ABRUZZI wrote: > I bought a NeXT Station from a clearence at a University. This machine > came with a 3.0 CD and a licence for 3.3. I have managed to secure a 3.3 > disk temporarily, so I would like to make a copy of it. (This is legal I ran into a similar situation, and ended up using some excellent freeware by Jeff Arnold. I've copied several CD-ROMs, including one NeXT one, and they all work like a charm. These are DOS programs, but they live happily in a Win95 DOS box. Later, Brian Baker. bbaker@technom.com Here's an excerpt from the README file: CD2CD.EXE Copies a single-track data CD from any SCSI based CDROM drive directly to the CD recorder. The reader must be faster than the recorder (i.e. 4X reader when recording at 2X, or a 2X reader when recording at 1X). CD2FILE.EXE and FILE2CD.EXE Copies a CD from any SCSI based CDROM drive to an "image" file on disk. This file can then be used by FILE2CD to write the image to the CD recorder. These two programs will allow someone who doesn't have a SCSI CDROM drive on their system to make copies of CDs using only their CD recorder for both reading the source disc and writing the new disc. FILE2CD can also be used to make ISO9660 discs if you already have a program that can build ISO image files. You must use the /POSTGAP switch so that the proper track postgap is written to the disc. DISK2CD.EXE Copies a SCSI harddrive block-by-block to the CD recorder. This program can be used to make native VMS and Unix CDs from the PC. The harddrive cannot be larger than the capacity of a CDROM (650Mb). NOTE: DOS and NT CDROMs must be in ISO9660 format, so making an image copy of a PC disk won't work. --- snip --- Please send all suggestions, comments, and bug reports to... Golden Hawk Technology 125 Indian Rock Road Merrimack, NH 03054 Phone: 603-424-0269 FAX : 603-429-0073 Email: jarnold@mainstream.net URL : http://www.mainstream.net/goldenhawk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!silpics.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: Michael Delver Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting JAZ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:56:45 +0000 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <32E85D2D.D55@demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: silpics.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: silpics.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have downloaded JAZ.pkg and made disctab entry but still get the error message 'sc: parity error' on start up. I assume there is a cable problem but I don't know what I need. Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!bfbaker From: bfbaker@netcom.com (Technom Enterprises Inc) Subject: Re: ?Good back-up for Black NeXTstation Color? Message-ID: Reply-To: bbaker@technom.com Organization: Technom Enterprises, Inc. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> <5c0j6c$4ib@news.knoware.nl> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:07:57 GMT Lines: 31 Sender: bfbaker@netcom.netcom.com Paul Harts (harts@knoware.nl) wrote: : Hi, : I would appreciate any advice on equipment that has proven itself as back up for black : hardware, e.g. my NeXTstation Color. Prices are not that important since a lot is at stake. : Thanks for any advice. : Paul. : -- : ==================================================== : | harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | : | the Netherlands | probably is one | : | NeXTmail Welcomed! | | : ==================================================== Greetings, I've been using a combination of SafetyNet (by Systemix Software, Inc.) and an Exabyte 4200c DAT drive. If money had been no object, I'd have gotten an 8mm drive instead, but I've had great results so far (about 3 years now). I have 4 tapes, each of which gets used for a week at a time (1 full, 6 incrementals, and then swap tapes). With this scheme, a bad tape would lose up to a week of data, but it gives me 4 weeks of history to go back to. Swapping tapes every day and taking the latest home with you (or to work with you, depending on where the machine lives) ought to keep your data nice and safe. Later, Brian Baker. bbaker@technom.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!tezcat!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.sgi.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! NeXTStep 3.3 (intel) and modems. Date: 24 Jan 1997 15:55:07 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5cam0r$tei@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <32E8377F.36BE@email.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chrome.psych.ualberta.ca In-Reply-To: <32E8377F.36BE@email.psu.edu> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.230 $] NF-S-00020 On 01/23/97, Tom Priore wrote: > I'm running NS 3.3 on an intel platform and i'm having some >problems getting apps to talk to my USR sporster 33.6 PNP internal >modem. I beleive the modem sets it self to com 2 (port b) but i can't >get anything out of it in NS. I'm pretty new to next, and I'm problaly >missing some obvious things. The first thing you need is an entry in the file /etc/remote to define a few params (most importantly the baud rate) for the serial port. My line to define a device called "dialer", using port A, looks like this: dialer:dv=/dev/cua:br#2400: After this has been defined (and you've rebooted), the command "tip dialer" will give tip access to a modem on port A. If your modem is on port B, use /dev/cub. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Syquest EZflyer on black? Date: 24 Jan 97 09:01:46 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: port-18-8.access.one.net In-reply-to: cdouty@netcom.com's message of Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:27:22 GMT In article , cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) writes: Has anyone used the Syquest EZflyer 230 drive on motorola hardware? How about the new SyJet 1.5GB removables? If you haven't used them on black hw, I'm interesed in general fit with NS on any platform. I've got an EZFlyer. Beyond the obvious cabling needs (EZFlyer is 25-pin Mac-style SCSI connector), it was completely plug&play. I had a motorola NS boot disk built in a few minutes, and booted from it a couple minutes later. Right now it's hooked up to my PC, with an Asus PC200 SCSI card (NCR 810 chipset). Works fine. The only real concern I have about it is that it's got those 25-pin connectors (accomplished by dropping the ground lines on a standard 50-pin), and it's "self-terminating" (recognizes if it's at the end of the chain and terminates automagically). Anyone who's worked with SCSI much at all recognizes that termination is important, and I would rather have my own terminator in there. But, since I don't trust the 25-pin stuff, the EZFlyer is at the end of my chain, and I don't have a 25-pin terminator on-hand. Well, it still seems to work fine, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!tezcat!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!jch From: jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Epson print engine in NeXTprinter Date: 24 Jan 1997 14:13:12 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5cag1o$gc0@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <32E6DB09.48EE@bfwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cube.philosophy.pitt.edu It's a Canon engine, isn't it? Bruce F. Webster wrote: >OK, what's the actual Epson print engine within the NeXT 400 dpi laser >printer? I need to know in order to get two dead printers repaired. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: ashrafi@stsfac.mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:17:41 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: ashrafi@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: stsfac.mit.edu How do I tell if a monitor is a FIMI monitor or a Trinitron. Is it by manufacturor? Babak Ashrafi ashrafi@mit.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!dimensional.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701231541.KAA10406@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: b23d0d1731260193eb4f743bb6c18dee - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 10:41:49 -0500 Subject: Re: urgent help with CDROM Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: b23d0d1731260193eb4f743bb6c18dee - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Serious-Disclaimer: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/disclaimer.html Lines: 25 Responding To: yew@jove.seas.ucla.edu (Wenming Ye) Original Date: 23 Jan 1997 05:22:17 GMT > Recently, our CDROM for a next computer broke. Does anyone know > what kind of cdrom drive would work on the original black next > hardware? I tried a toshiba, (for sgi and sun), but it did not seem > to work. I know that some old apple drive will work, but if we were > to purchase a new one, what kind would you recommand ? Internal Sony 4x CD-ROM (# CDU76) (pay no more than $100) AND External case for above CD-ROM (#CS-EXTDR1) ($48) Call 1-800-REAL-PCS (ASA Computers). I'm using this CD-ROM and case, and so is someone else I met here, and no problem whatsoever. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 24 Jan 97 18:03:05 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.22 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Fri, Jan 24, 1997 4:17 PM, Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi wrote: > How do I tell if a monitor is a FIMI monitor or a Trinitron. Is it by > manufacturor? Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of a trinitron. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 24 Jan 97 18:13:16 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.22 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Fri, Jan 24, 1997 2:43 PM, David Evans wrote: > You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a > different keyboard/mouse if you want. "Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!sesbra1 From: sesbra1@umbc.edu (Steven Esbrandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: About Dimension Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:48:57 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5cbao9$3i7@news.umbc.edu> References: <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: f-umbc7.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: sesbra1 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : >Could the port do realtime : >video digitization? I mean can I convert a video tape(VHS) to Quick Time : >Movie on the fly? :) : No. There's no compression hardware on the ND, and the NeXTbus (and/or the : relevant software) can't sustain full uncompressed video. You can get about : 4-5fps. I saw some next literature describing the Next Dimension that talked about compression; is this done by the main cpu, then? Also, if the board is not useful for digitizing a video stream, can it still be used for overlaying graphics and text and the like? -Steven #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:27:32 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5cbk1k$6n9@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pesto.cs.utexas.edu Ident-User: liuyi Mitchell Allen wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 24, 1997 2:43 PM, David Evans wrote: >> You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a >> different keyboard/mouse if you want. > > "Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse > sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT > keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? I have not tried it, but according to Shannon Edwards of DeepSpace, you _can_ use your non-ADB (L-shape Return) keyboard on an ADB system. I didn't ask him about putting a non-ADB mouse on an ADB. Make sure you call Shannon (301.663.3033) to verify before you try this, since it's been a few days since Shannon told me that. But Shannon Edwards should know a thing or two about NeXT hardware. BTW, the ADB mouse doesn't look or feel as well built as the non-ADB one. The ADB keyboard has a more rational layout of keys (e.g. ~, |), otherwise it's a flimsy piece of cheap plastic compared to the non-ADB keyboard. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi | Dallas, TX #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!GIMLI.genias.de!dali!news From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: Formating JAZ-Discs ? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: franquin Message-ID: Sender: news@onevision.de Reply-To: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5c7mm5$r5j@hagen.amg.de> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:32:43 GMT Lines: 29 In article <5c7mm5$r5j@hagen.amg.de> m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) writes: > Hi there, > > > does anyone know, how to format a JAZ Disc (IOMEGA) under NEXTSTEP 3.3 ?? > > Thanks, > > > Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de) Hi Martin, have a look at NextAnwsers, Document 2154. There you'll find a description on how to setup a disktab entry and how to format the cartridge. If you don't have access to NextAnswers (available for example at www.next.com) or if you encounter further problems, feel free to send me email. Robert. -- ========================================================================== == Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ========================================================================== == #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!GIMLI.genias.de!dali!news From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: Imagine128 and a stupid new user. X-Nntp-Posting-Host: franquin Message-ID: Sender: news@onevision.de Reply-To: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <853742419.29431@dejanews.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:55:30 GMT Lines: 63 In article <853742419.29431@dejanews.com> tpp109@psu.edu writes: > I'm very new to NeXT (but not to computers), and I need some help. I > installed NeXT (intel) on my system. Durring the final install step I > picked the wronge video card. (acutuall I was half right) I have an > Imagine 128. (which has a cirus chipset on it for VGA comadibility this is > the driver i choose 'cause the I128 wasn't an option.) > I rebooted and after the system anitailizes from what I can tell, NeXT > swiches into the graphics mode, at which my screen goes blank. > I need to know 2 things 1. is how do i change the driver. I downloaded > the correct one (1741_Number_Nine_Imagine128_Driver.pkg.compressed) from > NeXT. the other thing is, how do i get to the driver? Can i boot into a > non gui mode, and play with things there? once there what do I do? I am > dual booting, and the file is on a fat partion. Can NeXT see a Fat > partion? (like i said I'm new.) Could i dump the file to a floppy? > So many question! Ah I need help!! > > Oh yea, how do i setup PPP. well maybe this question could wait. > > Thanks for any help > > Tom Priore > tpp109@psu.edu > prioret@mailgate.navsses.navy.mil > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet Hi Tom, first of all try to boot using config=Default. Enter this line at the Next boot prompt, just after you have selected next in your dual boot program. NextStep will then start up using a standard configuration which includes the standard VGA video driver, the one which you should probably have chosen instead of the cirrus one. You could also boot into single user mode, the non-gui mode, using -s as an option at the boot prompt. But the needed steps aren't that easy to explain since you are new to NextStep. Once NextStep has completed starting (config=Default), and you are logged into NextStep, the FAT partition of your harddisk will be mounted automatically as long as it is a primary dos partition. If this is the first time you start NextStep, you'll be logged in as user me. Give this user a password using the Preferences.app (the clock), log out and log back in as root, the admin user. Then copy the package from the FAT to the NextStep partition, decompress the file by double-clicking on it (remember to rename the file if the file name is skipped), install the package by double-clicking on it and open /NextAdmin/Configure.app to remove the wrong and set up the correct display driver. If you want to setup ppp, have a look at www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/. You'll get a quite easy to use ppp daemon there, if I have the correct address in mind. If you have any further questions, feel free to send me email. Perhaps this helps, Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ========================================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Ben Konjkav Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help: How to use NeXT monitor with PC Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:24:18 -0800 Organization: PCG Lines: 22 Message-ID: <32E952B2.2B44@photonweb.com> References: <5c8nfc$3frm@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: Ben Konjkav NNTP-Posting-Host: photon.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26788 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25019 Michael Giddings wrote: > > I am looking for information on how to adapt a NeXT MegaPixel color display > to use on PC hardware. I saw mention once of an adapter that will do this > but can find zero info on it. > > I would greatly appreciate information on how to do this. > > -- > Michael Giddings > giddings@chem.wisc.edu > giddings@barbarian.com > (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 > http://www.barbarian.com Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & the cable that are designed to run your monitor on a PC Ben #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Ben Konjkav Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Connecting Next monitor to PC Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:23:41 -0800 Organization: PCG Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32E9528C.5369@photonweb.com> References: <5c5gvl$1b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: Ben Konjkav NNTP-Posting-Host: photon.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu Michael Giddings wrote: > > I have a NeXT monitor I'd like to use with a PC. I've heard that there is > some kind of adapter for this. I would appreciate any pointers to where I > might find this adapter. > > Thanks. > -- > Michael Giddings > giddings@chem.wisc.edu > giddings@barbarian.com > (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 > http://www.barbarian.com Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & the cable that are designed to run your monitor on a PC Ben #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!psinntp!psinntp!pubxfer.news.psi.net!usenet From: amoghal@predator (Aamir Moghal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: US Robotics Sportster V.34 with Black Hardware Date: 25 Jan 1997 01:29:15 GMT Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.99.162.81 X-Newsreader: Travesty 0.1 (v25b) Are there any drivers available for US Robotics Sportster V.34 faxmodem for NextStep? Has anyone had any luck using the Sportsters with Black Hardware? Also does anyone have a Modem cable for Black hardware for sale? Thanks, Aamir #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Syquest EZflyer on black? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 23:45:42 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article , Chris Douty wrote: >Has anyone used the Syquest EZflyer 230 drive on motorola hardware? How >about the new SyJet 1.5GB removables? If you haven't used them on black >hw, I'm interesed in general fit with NS on any platform. > Yes, people have used them. They work fine. No disktab entry needed. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.mty.itesm.mx!academ03!al166119 From: al166119@academ03.mty.itesm.mx (Edgar Avila V zquez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP!!!NEED TO ERASE PASS!!!! Date: 25 Jan 1997 00:53:28 GMT Organization: ITESM Campus Monterrey . DINF-DTCI Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5cbli8$d2@news.mty.itesm.mx> NNTP-Posting-Host: academ03.mty.itesm.mx X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I have a Nextstation using it as a server. But something got wrong this morning when my partners were trying to power up. The machine is asking for a hardware password. Nobody remember something about it. Someone knows how to erase it? Please!!! We have a lot of work, and more is comming!!!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usc!ccp-mac5.usc.edu!user From: nospam@nospam.com (J*A*V*I) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Newie needs help installing NS 3.0 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:25:26 -0800 Organization: N/A Lines: 54 Sender: mesamart@ccp-mac5.usc.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ccp-mac5.usc.edu Hi! I just got an ol' black box and I having quite a hard time to get her up and running. It came with a MO drive plus a HD, however I don't know any of the passwords. So I tried booting in single user mode and it all went fine until I tryed to change the password for root, then it didn't know who root was. Same happened when I tried to change me's passwrd. However I did a 'su me' and a 'su root' and it did not complain (until I tried to change the password...). The machine used to be part of a network so most of the system files are mere pointers (NFS?), thus (I guess?) it is trying to obtain the passwd file from a server or somthing like that. I also try to run the loginpanel when in single user mode and again it complains. I got an external CDROM (apple) and plug it into the external port, then I tried to boot from it, but It complained about the disk. Then I went back to single user mode from the HD, and I was able to mount the CDROM. But in the process of mounting it I got something like 6 scsi errors, after that it mounted the CDROM with no problem. It seems that I would need a floppy disk in order to create the boot.cdrom image and be able to boot from the cdrom. However the system does not come with a floppy. The cube is a 68040 based one (if that makes any difference) and it is not a turbo. I am not too used to work with this type of hardware so I really need someone outhere to help me here =). Here are my questions: 1) Is there any type of 'backdoor' account that I can get into when the computer boots normally and presents the login panel? 2) how can I reinstall the software (i've got the cdrom) into the HD whe I log in single user mode? Is there any script that can be run after mounting the cdrom? 3) Can I initialice the MO floppy with boot.cdrom? I tryed to do it with disk, but It didn't let me. I tryed to do it so I could use bod instead of bfd in order to be able to boot from the cdrom. I got an spare MO floppy and I would like to use this approach, since as I stated before I have no floppy drive. 4) I there is no other alternative, and I really need a floppy drive... does a normal peecee floppy work with the NeXT (does it have an input for it in the '040 motherboard)? Or does it use one of those funky scsi drives.... I also have a scsi zip drive, could I use it instead of a scsi floppy? Well, this is pretty much it. Any help will be welcome. I really would like to get this machine up and running. Hope it works as good as it looks (I hope that Mr. Jobs is taking his system stylist with him over to apple 8-) ) Thats all folks... Peace! ps. I have an antispam adress so please reply to this message in the newsgroup. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.fast.net!newsgate.ptd.net!news.ptd.net!not-for-mail From: Diey1l2@postoffice.ptd.net (Kai Dieyi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Logitech Scanner available Date: 25 Jan 1997 03:19:49 GMT Organization: Waitao Committee Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5cbu4l$j5a$12@news.ptd.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cs6-3.con.ptd.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Konichi wa, I am offering a Logitech ScanMan Color scanner for the opening price of 200 dollars, but the price is negotiable and may come down. It is a bus card scanner and has Win95/Win3.1 sorftware on 3.5 disks, as is the standard. If you're interested, e-mail me at diey1l2@postoffice.ptd.net. Perhaps we can work out a deal! Sayonara. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!usenet From: Dale Brisinda Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3Comm 3C500-Combo PCI Ethernet Card for OPENSTEP? Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:43:38 -0700 Organization: University of Calgary Lines: 15 Sender: brisinda@ip Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.2.25/XEmacs 19.14 Does anyone know if the 3Comm 3C500-Combo PCI card is supported in OPENSTEP 4.1? Has anyone tried it out? Looking at the list of supported cards, a number of 3Comm cards including the 3C507 ISA, 3C509 ISA, and 3C509B ISA, etc. are supported but no specific mention of this particular PCI card. Any information would be appreciated, Dale -- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news1.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What ppp protocal is required to run TTYDSP on NeXTSTEP OS Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:19:06 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5cbjhq$m62@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3-barrnet.slip.net Hi, I'm about to buy a TTYDSP modem to connect to an ISDN line. The modem is said to support MorningStar ppp, Transys PNI and tip and kermit. But freeware implmentations. Will this modem be satisfactory for connecting the cube to the IDSN? Will I need to aquire any NS specific software? I currently have NeXTSTEP 2.0 but plan to upgrade. What OS should I upgrade too? Is there anyone out there that insists I should give up my ethernet connection and go with Bit Surfer or Assend? Thanks, Emmett Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!svr1.pdx.gstis.net!news.aloha.net!news-w.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!lantana.singnet.com.sg!violet.singnet.com.sg!ntuix.ntu.ac.sg!alpha.ntu.ac.sg!GWILLEM From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 25 Jan 1997 04:27:26 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5cc23e$51e@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha.ntu.ac.sg X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2v [VAX/VMS]] Hi, I know about the 2 MB limit for harddisks in a NeXT (black in my case). But if I buy a 3-4 MB disk and create only a < 2 MB partition, would that then work? And what about a disk with two partitions of let's say 2 MB? Thanks, Willem PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. Does it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701241512.KAA10703@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: fd270a6d187b9fb30a4f26e0c8b4b85d - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 10:12:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Epson print engine in NeXTprinter Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: fd270a6d187b9fb30a4f26e0c8b4b85d - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 22 Responding To: "Bruce F. Webster" Original Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:29:13 -0500 > OK, what's the actual Epson print engine within the NeXT 400 dpi > laser printer? I need to know in order to get two dead printers > repaired. Please reply to the address below or to g8ubew@fnma.com. > Thanks! Weren't they Canon engines? You might be better off getting new ones, they are $200-$300 in csn.marketplace. If you have to ship the LP anywhere you are looking at a major expense. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!noc.van.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!loki.tor.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 25 Jan 1997 07:31:00 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5cccrk$o37@news.digifix.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 01/24/97, "Mitchell Allen" wrote: >On Fri, Jan 24, 1997 2:43 PM, David Evans > wrote: >> You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a >> different keyboard/mouse if you want. > >"Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse >sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT >keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? > Sure, its ADB... I've got a Color Turbo with an Apple Ergonomic (snicker) keyboard and a Kensington "Its as smooth as a babies bum" Mouse on it. The NeXT Keyboard was OK... The problem with the mouse was that the rubber gasket around the mouse would deteriorate over time and got all gooey. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:43:22 GMT References: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: >Hi, could anyone tell me the advantages of a NeXTstation Color Turbo over a >non-ADB version? > You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a different keyboard/mouse if you want. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701241517.KAA10751@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 3768bb97e47320614163d01e65edeb03 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 10:17:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Syquest EZflyer on black? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 3768bb97e47320614163d01e65edeb03 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 36 Responding To: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Original Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:27:22 GMT > Has anyone used the Syquest EZflyer 230 drive on motorola hardware? Yes, I have heard several people say they were using them; simple plug and play. > How about the new SyJet 1.5GB removables? I think they should also be plug and play, and no disktab needed, but I can't be sure until someone posts officially. SyQuest uses the same format as regular hard drives, so they should all work. > If you haven't used them on black hw, I'm interesed in general fit > with NS on any platform. The SyJet is high on my list of considerations for my next hard drive. I like the idea of being able to put an OS on each cart (except WinNT of course, which I probably wouldn't use anyway, but it can't be booted from a removable drive last I heard). I've got the EZ135 which has worked like a charm for me. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 25 Jan 1997 09:52:09 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5ccl49$md8@news.us.net> References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) ashrafi@stsfac.mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) wrote: >How do I tell if a monitor is a FIMI monitor or a Trinitron. Is > it by manufacturor? Trinitron monitors have a distinctive shape. Unlike other tubes, they are cylindrical. That means they are flat vertically, and curved back at the left and right edges. Kind of like a can. You can also look for the support wires on the screen, but you'd better not. If you don't notice them now, don't look for them otherwise you'll always notice them. :-) The FIMI monitors where made by Philips and pretty much really sucked. They are standard tubes, which means they curve back both vertically and horizontally. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!spring.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!not-for-mail From: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Date: 25 Jan 1997 14:01:36 GMT Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5cd3o0$cul@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: jjhuang@server.cm.nctu.edu.tw X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Hello,all, I know the performance of cube is poor, I want to ask if there is any extra hardware for Dimension which we can grab NTSC signal at the rate of 30 fps? And the quality is 640x480x24bit. Or maybe the hardware can do realtime compression to NeXTTime or what else. I know there is Digital Eyes, but it seems that the hardware can only grab 160x120? BTW, where could I buy Digital Eyes? If there is better choice, let me know. :) Thanks in advance. -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#========================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!usenet From: Brian Sutherland Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Networking NeXTs Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:58:45 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Lines: 11 Message-ID: <32EA3BC5.7858@onramp.net> Reply-To: bcs@onramp.net NNTP-Posting-Host: help08.onramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:54984 comp.sys.next.hardware:26804 comp.sys.next.misc:24836 comp.sys.next.software:27638 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25028 I have a NeXT Turbo Dimension and NeXT Turbo Color Station. One has a NeXT Color Printer and one has a CDROM drive. I want to be able to share these devices between the two computers. I only have the Academic version of NeXTSTEP 3.3 and no real good manuals. I do not know how to set up a Netinfo or any type of NeXT server. Can anyone help me via email or phone? Or if you have any lead to where I can find NeXT networking information it would be helpful. Please reply to both email and newsgroup so I do not miss your answer. Thanx -Brian bcs@onramp.net #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: US Robotics Sportster V.34 with Black Hardware Message-ID: <1997Jan25.115647.1020@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: amoghal@predator Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:56:47 GMT Lines: 12 In <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> Aamir Moghal wrote: > Are there any drivers available for US Robotics Sportster V.34 faxmodem > for NextStep? Has anyone had any luck using the Sportsters with Black > Hardware? Also does anyone have a Modem cable for Black hardware for > sale? From the docs it seems that you can use the latest mgetty+sendfax package from linux. Get version 1.0 or later. I never tried it but would be glad to receive any reports on succs/failures. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 25 Jan 1997 18:29:38 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5cdjei$5je@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5cccrk$o37@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.204.99.155 > >> You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a > >> different keyboard/mouse if you want. _________________ will a wacom tablet of other-than 12x12 inch format, connected through the adb keyboard port with the mouse, work with tablet-reading apps? [the white manuals stipulate a 12x12 format connected via serial b, but they were published before the advent of turbo-adb hardware.] thanks, chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Number9 Imagine 128 Series 2 8MB Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:12:06 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 17 Message-ID: <32EA5AF0.2E00@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.126 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, I interesting Number9 Imagine 128 Series 2 8MB VRAM version. Anyboy has experience of that card in the NEXTSTEP 3.3 and OPENSTEP 4.x. or can tell me more ? Is that supports 1600x1200x16M color? I know about the Number9 Imagine 128 Series 2 4MB version will work in the NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP. (http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2489.htmld/2489.html) Thanks in advance. YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fmlazar@interactive.net (Frank Lazar) Subject: Re: Help: How to use NeXT monitor with PC X-Nntp-Posting-User: (Unauthenticated) Organization: AMUSE-New York Amiga Users Group Message-ID: References: <5c8nfc$3frm@news.doit.wisc.edu> <32E952B2.2B44@photonweb.com> X-Trace: 854218692/27093 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: host052.jerseycity.interactive.net Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:58:22 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!andromeda.vec.net!news.new-york.net!news.interactive.net!host052.jerseycity.interactive.net!user Lines: 26 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26808 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25029 In article <32E952B2.2B44@photonweb.com>, Ben Konjkav wrote: > > > Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & > the cable that are designed to run your monitor on a PC > > Ben The EGS Spectrum graphics card I use with one of my Amigas has settings for using a NeXT monitor. I'm going to have to try it out one of these days. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | _ | | We are dreamers, shapers, singers and makers. /_\ | | We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, // \\ | | Crystal and scanner, holographic demons, \\ //___\\ | | And invocations of equations. \\ // \\ | | \\__// \\ | | These are the tools we employ. And we know... many things. \\ | | \\ | | | Frank Lazar http://www.interactive.net/~fmlazar | \\ | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.kreonet.re.kr!news.postech.ac.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] SyJet 1.5GB drive Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:54:38 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 15 Message-ID: <32EA7302.1932@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.126 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, I considering to buy a SyJet 1.5GB drive for file backup on the NEXTSTEP. How about the disk safety and speed? I heard rumors that Syquest's removable disk will very weak in any bit impacts or disk safety is very low than iomega's products. Thanks in advance. YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.kreonet.re.kr!news.postech.ac.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] SyJet 1.5GB drive Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:56:54 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 15 Message-ID: <32EA7389.FCA@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.126 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, I considering to buy a SyJet 1.5GB drive for file backup on the NEXTSTEP. How about the disk safety and speed? I heard rumors that Syquest's removable disk will very weak in any bit impacts or disk safety is very low than iomega's products. Thanks in advance. YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!news.he.net!news.cichlid.com!news.scruz.net!usenet From: "Eric Brown" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTPrinter paper jam problem Date: 25 Jan 1997 21:20:07 GMT Organization: scruz-net Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bc0b05$87f76250$3374e3a5@delphi> NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.227.116.51 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 My NeXT printer sucks in the paper about 2 inches and then tells me it's got a paper jam. If I'm lucky and nudge the paper in the right way, I won't get the paper jam. But I'm not lucky very often and I couldn't imagine doing this for every page. This isn't the problem talked about in the hardware faq. My printer only seems off by a millimeter or so but I'm really stuck. Has anybody had similar experiences? Thanks, Eric #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: About Dimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 19:49:04 GMT References: <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <5cbao9$3i7@news.umbc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 36 In article <5cbao9$3i7@news.umbc.edu>, Steven Esbrandt wrote: >David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: >: >Could the port do realtime >: >video digitization? I mean can I convert a video tape(VHS) to Quick Time >: >Movie on the fly? :) >: No. There's no compression hardware on the ND, and the NeXTbus (and/or the >: relevant software) can't sustain full uncompressed video. You can get about >: 4-5fps. > >I saw some next literature describing the Next Dimension that talked about >compression; is this done by the main cpu, then? > It depends on what you mean by "compression". The Window Server in 4.x compresses backing stores using the i860 on the Dimension board, reducing memory requirements. However, the JPEG compression option, which NeXT talked long and loud about (and why not--it was pretty damn cool in 1991!) was never completed. >Also, if the board is not useful for digitizing a video stream, can it still >be used for overlaying graphics and text and the like? > Yes. You can display live video on the ND screen, stick text over this video, grab frames, and output sections of your NeXT display to an external video monitor/VCR/whatever. I've never tried bringing in live video, pasting stuff on top of it, and sending it out, but I have a hunch it won't work. I seem to recall a post around here a while ago saying that the video input/ output sections of the ND are isolated, with the i860 and friends in between. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!worldnet.att.net!news.u.washington.edu!tpayne From: tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Bootup problems Date: 18 Jan 1997 18:48:22 GMT Organization: University of Washington Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5br5tm$gvq@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5arqac$2m9@nntp1.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu Keywords: Bootup problems tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) writes: >Nextstep 3.3 was working fine on my Gateway 486DX66 until one day when it >hung on 'starting automounter' during bootup. Running 'boot: -v' showed >that the point at which bootup hangs is when the line 'starting file >service daemons' is displayed. I know of no damage or change to the >system that should have caused this to happen. Any suggestions for >solving this? >Thanks. >Tom Payne Here's the solution, courtesy of Paul Lynch: At the boot prompt, type -s. This takes you to root prompt (#). Type: cp /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc This replaces /etc/hostconfig, solving the problem. Tom Payne -- Thomas Payne, MD Clinical Computing Project Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound, Seattle #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!colloquy.apple.com!nntp1.apple.com!news From: "Eddy Cue" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.1 vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 16:29:09 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 17.128.203.143 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) I am trying to install OpenStep 4.1 user on a 486 PC with Adaptec 1542CF SCSI card, internal CD-ROM and external hd. I was able to run through the installer including picking the Adaptec driver. The installer completes successfully and asks to remove the disk and restart. On restart, booting fails at - rootdev 300, howto 0 vfs_mountroot: error=19 panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root Any suggestions? Eddy Cue cue@apple.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.agtac.net!crash.videotron.ab.ca!claire@mail.videotron.ab.ca From: stop@spam.com (see sig for my real address) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Logitec Mouse on a NeXT Keyboard Date: 26 Jan 1997 00:52:47 GMT Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. (WAVE) Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5ce9sv$e282@crash.videotron.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: fhost219.v-wave.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 1.333 $] NF-S-00020 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:24841 comp.sys.next.hardware:26815 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16147 On 01/23/97, Aeldrik Pander wrote: >About two years ago I read some documentation on a WWW-site about >wiring a Logitec bus mouse to a NeXT Keyboard. Dancing Bear Enterprises (www.dancingbear.com) used to sell an adapter for this, but I just checked their site and they've quit selling NeXT hardware. Their page does still have a few pointers to other vendors in this vanishing market, so that might help you. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Darryl Anton Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep on Versa 6000 (Does it work) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:11:24 -0500 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 1 Message-ID: <32EAAF3C.24A8@earthlink.net> Reply-To: daisho@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ip241.washington4.dc.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; U; 68K) anyone ever try nextstep on a Versa 6000 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsrelay.netins.net!news.spss.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: tablets on black ADB Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:22:36 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5c63vc$6tu@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.204.99.158 my old white manual says only 12" tablets connected to serial B are accepted. but that was before the introduction of turbo-adb hardware. will a smaller tablet connected to the adb keyboard jack, along with the mouse, be read by tablet-supporting software like tiffany2 and virtuoso? thanks for any help, chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701251426.JAA03288@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 09:26:05 -0500 Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 35 Responding To: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Original Date: 25 Jan 1997 04:27:26 GMT Message-ID: 066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94 - [replace "MB" with "Gigabyte" when reading quoted area ;-] > I know about the 2 MB limit for harddisks in a NeXT (black in my > case). But if I buy a 3-4 MB disk and create only a < 2 MB > partition, would that then work? And what about a disk with two > partitions of let's say 2 MB? is less than (not = to) then it will work. You can have as many <2 gig partitions as you want > PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. > Does it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry. "out of the box" may not be the problem, it may be what happens after it has been working for a little while, and die, as happened to Scott Anguish on several occasions. You can contact him at "sanguish@digifix.com" and ask him how he feels about Quantum drives. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701251422.JAA03242@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 27cfec1827734fafe20842d968c0c070 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 09:22:15 -0500 Subject: Re: HELP!!!NEED TO ERASE PASS!!!! Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 27cfec1827734fafe20842d968c0c070 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 20 Responding To: al166119@academ03.mty.itesm.mx (Edgar Avila V zquez) Original Date: 25 Jan 1997 00:53:28 GMT > I have a Nextstation using it as a server. But something got wrong > this morning when my partners were trying to power up. The machine > is asking for a hardware password. Nobody remember something about > it. Someone knows how to erase it? > Please!!! We have a lot of work, and more is comming!!!! see: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!spring.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!news.cis.nctu.edu.tw!usenet From: _ñ°Ç pa Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! CDROM Failure Date: 23 Jan 1997 18:58:45 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer & Information Science, NCTU, Taiwan Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5c8cd5$mlq@news.cis.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: @nnano.ep.nctu.edu.tw X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) My old PC worked well with NS 3.3 before. Someday after it was replaced with new mainboard with AIC7880 chip on-board, the SCSI CDROM became failure to mount on to the system. By checking with Workspace->Tools->Console, it shows Workspace: Cannot exec /CDROM/Modules/Preferences/FSAlarmClock/FSAlarmClock.preferences/F SChime: (not a valid program). The CDROM model is NEC501 configured with Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI adapter (v3.37) driver, same with the old config. When system started up, the BIOS can be successfully installed. After booting-up to Nextstep, inquired with SCSI_Inspector, the CDROM can be identified for target id-4, but fail to pass diagnostics for the unit not ready. Can any one help to solve this problem? Or should I provide more information about the computer setting or else to figure out the problem resulted from? Thanks in advance. Su-Lin Yang slyang@cc.nctu.edu.tw #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!pacbell.com!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!usenet From: Chris Stuart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory for Cube Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:56:08 -0800 Organization: Center for Research in Computing and the Arts Lines: 16 Message-ID: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: carla.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4c) I'd like to install some more memory into an 8M cube. Can I use plain Macintosh chips or is there something else recommended? Also, after briefly opening the cube I didn't see an obvious place to install the chips. Do you have to remove the power supply or anything? Thanks very much. -- **************************** Chris Stuart Systems Administrator University of California, San Diego Center for Research in Computing and the Arts cstuart@ucsd.edu (619) 534-4383 **************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:35:20 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Rudolf B. Blazek" In-Reply-To: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> On 23 Jan 1997, it was written: > Hi, could anyone tell me the advantages of a NeXTstation Color Turbo over a > non-ADB version? Well, I prefer the ADB keyboard and mouse to the non-ADB versions. Also, if the mouse fails, it can simply be replaced by a Mac mouse. It comes down to personal preference, really. If you like "manhandling" your mouse, you'd probably prefer the original "brick" mouse. If you prefer a more ergonomic approach, you'll like the ADB input devices. Also, I think the ADB colour Turbos came with Trinitron monitors, which many people seem to prefer to the FIMI monitors. -Isaac isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu (NeXTmail welcome!) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!uunet!not-for-mail From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: adb tablet connection Date: 26 Jan 1997 05:21:36 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5cepl0$kbf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.204.99.164 will a wacom tablet, connected through the adb keyboard port with the mouse, work with tablet-reading apps? [the white manuals stipulate a 12x12 format connected via serial b, but they were published before the advent of turbo-adb hardware.] thanks, chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 26 Jan 1997 00:40:43 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5ceu9b$esh@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> References: <066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94> <-> <199701251426.JAA03288@nerc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pesto.cs.utexas.edu Ident-User: liuyi [Posted and CC'ed to sanguish@digifix.com] Timothy J Luoma wrote: >Responding To: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) >> ... >> PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. >> Does it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry. > >"out of the box" may not be the problem, it may be what happens >after it has been working for a little while, and die, as happened >to Scott Anguish on several occasions. You can contact him at >"sanguish@digifix.com" and ask him how he feels about Quantum >drives. Scott, how about sharing your experience with Quantum Fireball? I'd really love to know what specific drive you've had problems with and what OS and hardware configuration the drives have failed under. I've been using my Quantum TM3200 (I guess it's also called Fireball) 3.2GB for over a month now, no problems so far. But TjL's comments make me wonder whether I've been sitting on a time bomb all along. I'd also appreciate comments from all Fireball owners on the longevity of the Quantums. Thanks, liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi | Dallas, TX #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Darryl Anton Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing a CD-R On a Next Cube Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:41:14 -0500 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 2 Message-ID: <32E2F76A.1F85@earthlink.net> Reply-To: daisho@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ip183.washington4.dc.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; U; 68K) I want to dump my OD in my cube and replace it with a CD-R unit has anyone had any experience with it or any recomendations #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium- $209 w/2 megs WRAM Date: 20 Jan 1997 02:10:19 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <32DFC865.3F90@pcdiscounters.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.mcs.com Dave McGill writes: >PC Discounters . . . Your DISCOUNT Computer Source!! >Specializing in upgrades for desktop computers. >SPECIALS: >Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 Hmm, the Micro Center store here in Chicago has this same price, but for the 4M WRAM version, not 2M. With the driver from NeXTanswers, it works well. When a retail store beats out a mail order shop, the mail order shop is likely overcharging for other items as well... or at least posting to the wrong newsgroup. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!usenet From: "Andrew Kim" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with SCSI II on my NeXTstation Color. Date: 23 Jan 97 23:00:12 +0000 Organization: Cogent Software Lines: 26 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p6.dsphere.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/1.2 X-News-Servers: news.cogent.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.misc Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26827 comp.sys.next.misc:24851 I have Olympus Sys.230 and I used with my powerbook for sometime. I also have Olympus Deltis 230, which is older model for Sys.230 and it is connected to NeXTstation and I have no problem with it. Couple days ago I connected SYS.230 to NeXTstation and system did lock it self. I have no idea and why, so I unplug it and problem goes away. Only difference of Sys.230 and Deltis 230 is connection. Sys.230 uses 25-pin SCSI, but internally it is SCSI-2 device. Deltis 230 otherhand, it is SCSI-1&2 with DB-50 connection. Both device have self termination with SCSI diagnostic LED lights at back. Yes, I forgot to mention. When I plug Sys.230 to NeXTstation SCSI diagnostic LED goes OFF which means there is problem. But, when I plug Deltis 230; LED goes ON and no problem at all. Why don't I leave Deltis 230 to NeXTstation and work with it? Here is another problem, some times Deltis can not mount any MO disk at all. It does that time to time, so I decide to use sys.230 instead. But, it didn't turn out that way as I wanted. Any suggestion? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Backing up Hard drive Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32DF1A73.45D7@gl.umbc.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 19:51:42 GMT Lines: 19 In article <32DF1A73.45D7@gl.umbc.edu> Gregory Pacholczyk writes: > I have an 040 Cube with a really loud 660 mb hard drive, i also have a 1 > gig scsi drive that i want to put in its place. how can i format the 1 > gig drive and move everything over to it. Formatting isn't necessary, only getting a new filesystem established. And that works fully automatic if the drive gets attached the first time during the boot phase. Or you can take BuildDisk.app as your tool of choice. And my favorite method of copying filesystem is a pair of pipe connected gnutar instances run as 'root'. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Suggestions for PPP for NeXT LAN? Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 18:48:56 GMT Lines: 53 In article smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) writes: > Hi all- > > I have a small LAN at home where I do consulting (2 cubes, 1 Intel > all running 3.3) and I'd like to connect to the internet through > the University. They've given me the go-ahead with a small block > of fixed IPs to set up a PPP link from my LAN. I'm wondering what > sort of suggestions people have for the easiest and most effect > way to go about this. > > I'd like to have a minimum maintenence solution if possible. One > possible solution may be a separate box sitting on the LAN doing > the routing and taking care of the POTS line. Another possibility > may be a software solution sitting in one of the NeXT boxes. > > Does anyone have suggestions? Recommendations? Warnings? Beer? > > Steve > --- > Steven M. Boker 219-631-4941 (voice) > sboker@nd.edu 219-631-8883 (fax) > http://www.nd.edu/~sboker/ 219-257-2956 (home) > Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 > > -- > Steven M. Boker (219) 631-4941 (office) (219) 631-8883 (fax) > boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ > Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 If ISDN is an option, get an ISDN connection and buy an Ascend Pipeline 25. It has an a/b adapter, so you can use your old POTS telephone hardware. It supports subnet masks; you will need that. Personally, I found it difficult to configure. Its manual is one of the worst I have ever seen. But once you have it running, it is a great box. An alternative may be buying an old 386 PC and install something like IP-route. You should inspect all equipment that makes your router initiate an outbound call. Try to find out why your router thinks it has to make this call. If you have to pay per call, using the nameserver of the university can be very expensive. If you buy a dedicated box, buy a box that has lights showing you that it is making a call. You can configure a router in 15 minutes, but finding out why it is making all those calls can take a lot of time. You will be rewarded for this on the next bill of your telephone company. Just my $0.02 opinion hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 23:54:24 GMT Lines: 23 In article <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ashrafi@stsfac.mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) writes: > How do I tell if a monitor is a FIMI monitor or a Trinitron. Is it by > manufacturor? > > Babak Ashrafi > ashrafi@mit.edu 1) Fimi is not made by Hitachi. Hitachi did the 21" monitor not the 17". 2) About recognizing Trinitron vs. Fimi. - Trinitron is made by Sony. There should be some Sony marks on the back. - Trinitron screens are cylindrical. Fimi screens are spherical. - Trinitron screens have a horizontal line at about 1/3 or 2/3 of the height of the screen. - Trinitron screens are deeper than Fimi screens (their tube is longer). They are also heavier. - Trinitron screens are more expensive than Fimi screens. - If all rules above fail, use your own eyes and judge whether the screen you are looking at meets your requirements. If it does, it is not that important whether you are looking at a Fimi or Trinitron tube. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news From: "Karl N. Matthias" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help: How to use NeXT monitor with PC Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:49:36 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <32EBB550.FE3@osu.edu> References: <5c8nfc$3frm@news.doit.wisc.edu> <32E952B2.2B44@photonweb.com> Reply-To: matthias.3@osu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ts20-8.homenet.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26842 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25050 Ben Konjkav wrote: > > Michael Giddings wrote: > > > > I am looking for information on how to adapt a NeXT MegaPixel color display > > to use on PC hardware. I saw mention once of an adapter that will do this > > but can find zero info on it. > > > > I would greatly appreciate information on how to do this. > > > > -- > > Michael Giddings > > giddings@chem.wisc.edu > > giddings@barbarian.com > > (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 > > http://www.barbarian.com > > Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & > the cable that are designed to run your monitor on a PC > > Ben I do not suggest that anyone does business with these guys. They do not honor their return policy very well, tech support only rarely answers the phone, they do not return phone calls (especially if it is still within the 30 days guaranteed by the return policy), they do not know the details of the monitors they claim to support, and on top of all that, they have the rudest support staff I have ever dealt with. If anyone wants more information about them, please e-mail me, since I don't wish to start a flame-ware. Thanks Karl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Run fsck on second drive Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:04:24 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5cin6o$k68@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <32E23E92.5B80@sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chrome.psych.ualberta.ca In-Reply-To: <32E23E92.5B80@sprintmail.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.230 $] NF-S-00020 On 01/19/97, "Raymond L. Ehrlich" wrote: >I would like to install the faulty 405 mbyte drive which has NeXtStep >2.1 into a second NeXT Station which has a 105mbyte drive and running >NeXTStep 3.3 which loads fine. I would like to install the faulty >drive into a working system to be able to load and run fsck on the >faulty drive from the properly working hard drive. You'll need to change the SCSI ID jumper on the 2nd disk. Usually internal disks are set to ID 1 (sometimes 0), and you'll want the 2nd drive set to 2 or higher, so that the machine will still boot from the good disk. Then you should be able to fsck the 2nd disk with just "fsck /dev/rsd1a". However, I'm not positive that the different NS versions (3.3 on your boot disk, 2.1 on the one you want to fix) won't cause trouble here. I've never tried to do this accross NS versions. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!nott!uottawa!foster From: foster@aix2.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Logitec Mouse on a NeXT Keyboard Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 26 Jan 1997 18:57:10 GMT Organization: University of Ottawa Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5cg9e6$j5k@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> References: <5ce9sv$e282@crash.videotron.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: aix1.uottawa.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:24861 comp.sys.next.hardware:26844 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16171 I'm using a logitech mouse on my nextslab now. I got it from computerActive, at http://www.computeractive.on.ca/cAi/index.html They made some adaptors to go between the mouse and the socket on the keyboard. Telephone 613-225-4824. Peter #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 27 Jan 1997 09:51:55 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 23 Message-ID: <19970127095101.EAA22696@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Here's the history of all the NeXT monitors. The Original(1st) B&W monitors were made by Sony and used a Toshiba 12.6vac CRT (no anti-glare coating) on an aluminum stand, It was very heavy. The 2nd version, a Toshiba 6.3vac CRT (with anti-glare coating) was use and it came on a magnesium stand while a microphone was added to the front of the bezel. The final(3rd) version was made by Hitachi on a plastic stand and it was ADB. The 1st version of the 17" color monitor was made by Femi (Phillips) while the last version was made by Sony with has ADB. The 21" color monitor only came in one model and was made by Hitachi with a Toshiba CRT. The best way to tell the B&W moinitors apart is by their stand because the early monitors probably has had their CRT's replace with a newer one by now. Hope this helps. Jquan :-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Date: 27 Jan 1997 11:10:47 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 27 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ciujn$sn@mpaque.mpaque> References: Reply-To: mpaque@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: volans103.wco.com In article dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > And if someone tries > to talk to you about NeXT's JPEG compression daughterboard, listen > politely, but remember that it doesn't work (well, it works for about > 60ms or so, apparently). And of course, bear in mind that (for some reason :-)) it was never a shipping product. Really carefully crafted code using the NXLiveVideoView can grab maybe 4-5 frames per second. For digitizing video, I've found that the best method (without resorting to high end racks of Avid gear) is to get a really clean transfer to a laserdisc, and then digitize still frames from a good disc player's output. This lets you integrate the video frames over time and strip out a good portion of video noise, and use really high quality non-realtime filters to maximize quality. Good transfers will cost maybe 300-400 dollars for a single side CAV disk. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoevere it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: ancar@mindspring.com (Andrea Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Requiremants for NextStem on a Pentium Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:36:00 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5cgilj$upt@camel5.mindspring.com> Reply-To: ancar@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip201.isdn1-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net X-Server-Date: 26 Jan 1997 21:34:43 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Hello there. I am contemplating loading nextstep on a pentium laptop and I'd like to know what the system requirements are. n addition, what is the difference between this OS for it's native platform and the Pentiem platform? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:28:06 GMT References: <5cd3o0$cul@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article <5cd3o0$cul@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, Jiunn-jye Huang wrote: >Hello,all, > I know the performance of cube is poor, I want to ask if there is any extra >hardware for Dimension which we can grab NTSC signal at the rate of >30 fps? And the quality is 640x480x24bit. Or maybe the hardware can do >realtime compression to NeXTTime or what else. No, there's nothing that will do this. Sad, but true. And if someone tries to talk to you about NeXT's JPEG compression daughterboard, listen politely, but remember that it doesn't work (well, it works for about 60ms or so, apparently). -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news1.digex.net!news.BLaCKSMITH.com!root From: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 27 Jan 1997 21:43:39 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5cj7ib$rgp@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <5ceu9b$esh@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> Reply-To: leo@blacksmith.com NNTP-Posting-Host: uni.blacksmith.com > I've been using my Quantum TM3200 (I guess it's also called Fireball) > 3.2GB for over a month now, no problems so far. But TjL's comments > make me wonder whether I've been sitting on a time bomb all along. > I'd also appreciate comments from all Fireball owners on the longevity > of the Quantums. Just found this in 'comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc': "Its a news box and has the worst possible disks (Quantum Fireball) so I am forced to run fsck on it sometimes." We no longer use them here at BLaCKSMITH because we couldn't prevent them from inevitably failing. Sorry to put a downer on your day :-( leo. +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXT/MIME) | | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? Leo, your mom called. | +-------------------------------------------------------+ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!kirin.wwa.com!news.ucdavis.edu!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!usenet From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:05:28 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5cj8r8$j7l@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <5cc23e$51e@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Reply-To: clowenstein@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) Cc: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg In <5cc23e$51e@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan wrote: > > I know about the 2 MB limit for harddisks in a NeXT (black in my > case). But if I buy a 3-4 MB disk and create only a < 2 MB partition, > would that then work? And what about a disk with two partitions of > let's say 2 MB? The requirement is that each partition be not more than 2 GB. I think that's what you meant to say. NS3.3 will create two partitions to make up the full disk size for a disk between 2 and 4 GB. NS3.2 and older will not, and you will have to write (or acquire from someone else) an appropriate /etc/disktab entry. Or you might decide that you don't like NS 3.3's choice of partition sizes. > PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. Does > it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry. I have seen the 1.0GB Fireball disk used on black hardware without any special disktab entry. Ask me again in a couple of days and I will tell you about the 3.2GB Fireball. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news.he.net!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Pentium or PentiumPro for OS 4.1 Date: 27 Jan 1997 03:16:29 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5ch6md$bhm@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5c8q1l$ve2@portal.gmu.edu> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) Cc: rraman@site.gmu.edu In <5c8q1l$ve2@portal.gmu.edu> Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI) wrote: > As the subject says, what is a good platform for running OPENSTEP 4.1 User/ Dev? My resources > will allow me to purchase one of the following: > > PentiumPro 150 MHz with SCSI HDD > > Pentium 166MHz with SCSI subsystem > > NeXT Turbo Color > > I plan to develop mathematical programs/ run simulations and do some work on WebObjects. > Thanks in advance. > > By all means get the Pentium Pro. One benchmark I used showed it ran memory-intensive programs (i.e. all NeXT Apps) about 2 times the speed of the same MHz Pentium. You should be able to get a NeXT Turbo Color (from James Moosman)for $600 + 2 GB HD $370 = $970. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701261625.LAA03849@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: b839bdc513ee8d6eb0b9518dcefd4b03 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 11:25:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Q] SyJet 1.5GB drive Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: b839bdc513ee8d6eb0b9518dcefd4b03 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 30 Responding To: younghoon KIL Original Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:54:38 +0900 > I considering to buy a SyJet 1.5GB drive for file backup on the > NEXTSTEP. > How about the disk safety and speed? > I heard rumors that Syquest's removable disk will very weak in any > bit impacts or disk safety is very low than iomega's products. I have heard people say that the EZ135 carts are more easily damaged than Zip carts. I have had no problems with mine, but then again they go right from the drive to the case. The disk speed on the SyJet is more likely as fast if not faster than you current HD. From what I've heard, it is supposed to be fully usable as your primary drive. It will likely be what I get when I get the $$ for a new drive So while I don't have any direct knowledge of SyJet, I have not heard anything which would persuade me from buying one. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: cbrooker@aol.com (CBrooker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: For Sale: New and Used Notebooks- Wholesale prices Date: 27 Jan 1997 13:34:10 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 68 Message-ID: <19970127133400.IAA27973@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Compaq LTE 5300 This machine is in NEW condition , comes with everything...Blank registration card and all manuals!!! - Pentium-133MHZ. - 12.1 TFT SVGA Active matrix color....Thousand of colors - Large 1.35GB hard drive,16 MB EDO ram.. - 6X CD-rom (Swapable with floppy 3.5") - Intergrated 16 bit Sound Blaster Pro compatible.. - White color...With 2 Intergrated Multi-Media full Stereo Speakers. - Price to sell quick. $3300 The Park Ave. Trading Post Inc. 770-643-1135 Chris We've been in business for 6 years. 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THIS UNIT IS THE SMALLEST AND LIGHTEST NOTEBOOK I'VE EVER SEEN!!! $1600 or best offer. Panasonic CF 62 top of the line notebook!!! BRAND NEW FACTORY SEALED WITH FULL WARRANTY!!! Pentium 133 Mhz, 32 bit PCI with level 2 cache, 16 megs fast EDO ram, 1.35 gig hard drive, 4x cd rom that is also a READ/WRITABLE drive that can be written, updated, erased AND rewritten with 650 mb capacity that supports photo CD's, music CD's and CD+ format, 12.1" ACTIVE XGA Matrix screen with 1024x768 XGA or 800x600 SVGA resolution, Lithium battery, and touch pad. 3 YEAR WARRANTY!!! $4000 or best offer. NEC VERSA 6030H BRAND NEW REFURB FACTORY SEALED WITH FULL WARRANTY FROM NEC!!! Pentium 133 Mhz 12.1" active color 16 megs ram 1.3 gig hard drive 6x CD ROM swappable with floppy drive internal 28.8 fax/modem $2600 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701171337.FAA04212@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 6b14f81085f0c113afc690184b06b082 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 08:37:04 -0500 Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 6b14f81085f0c113afc690184b06b082 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Lines: 19 Responding To: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Original Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:55:05 GMT > well, how about a old syquest 44? would it work? if it is a SCSI connector, it should if not, there's a trade-in offer at SyQuest's homepage where they'll give you $100 towards an EZFlyer if you turn in any (even non-SyQuest) drive (doesn't even have to work) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!tgritton From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:02:02 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dd56-136.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.1 In article , "Mitchell Allen" wrote: >"Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse >sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT >keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? I agree on the mouse, especially if you tend towards RSI. However the keyboard having a CMD bar below the space bar is really neat ( bar is actually part of the edge of keyboard. Much more natural for me to use my thumb to depress the CMD bar on one hand and then use a finger on the other hand to hit the appropriate key. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!cocoa.brown.edu!cfm.brown.edu!andrew From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstep on IBM-Aptiva-Stelth Date: 27 Jan 1997 20:42:44 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5cj404$ff8@cocoa.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cfm.brown.edu Has anyone tried to install NeXTstep on the cool-looking IBM Aptiva-Stelth? I plan to buy one if installation is strait forward. Please e-mail me and post as I don't always XRN (read news). Thanks, Andrew #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!mfs-annex1-p32.dsphere.net!user From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Apple Support of NeXT Products Date: 22 Jan 1997 23:01:41 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <199701221323.IAA03478@dhp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p32.dsphere.net >> Cross Platform Support. Apple will maintain NeXT's commitment to >> cross-platform and cross-processor support, and will continue to develop, >> sell, and support products currently available, including those for Windows >> NT, Solaris, HP-UX, and NEXTSTEP. In addition, we plan to add support with >So, what's the story for black (motorola) hardware? Nextstep might refer to Openstep/Mach, which runs on Motorola. It's a no brainer to keep the support in, as evidenced by the stated non-support of HP nextstep, and then the fact that according to some on the newsgroups it actually works anyway. Essentially, it looks like Next's cross platform software is written so well that it really is a no-brainer to provide support for multiple platforms. Speculation... Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!magma.Mines.EDU!moran!dmwood From: dmwood@moran.Mines.EDU (WOOD DAVID M) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Logitech mice on NeXT keyboards Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:08:41 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5cjchp$qhq@magma.Mines.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: moran.mines.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] See http://www.computeractive.on.ca/cAi/next/tails.html -- David M. Wood Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!newshost.uni-koblenz.de!not-for-mail From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Unable to use serial ports (NS3.3p1 Intel) Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:17:02 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5ckclu$pn$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5ckc8p$jtl$1@Venus.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nihil.uni-koblenz.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25066 comp.sys.next.hardware:26859 font@MCS.COM (Font) wrote: > Drivers: include Serial Port 3.33, PCI Bus 3.30, ISA/EISA Bus 3.31, > Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge 3.31. Hi, the TTY port server driver is not on your list. Maybe this is the problem? This driver is needed to make /dev/tty* work, when you use version 3.33 of the ISASerialDriver. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!kirin.wwa.com!news.ucdavis.edu!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!usenet From: Geoff Spradley Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundKit with OS/M-I 4.1? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:43:22 -0800 Organization: Academic Computing, UCSD Lines: 20 Message-ID: <32ED4BAA.3BEC@ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sueldo.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) CC: gfs@ucsd.edu I never got the NS/Intel 3.2 SoundKit drivers for a ProAudio Spectrum (16 Basic) soundcard to work well with my Micron P5-90 (Neptune PCI/ISA) system. Despite an exhaustive trial of DMA/IRQ settings, short segments of soundfiles always looped during playback. I think I remember reading that NS 3.3 improved matters. I'd appreciate testimonials from anyone who's gotten decent SoundKit results with OS/Mach-Intel 4.1, especially with a similar soundcard and mainboard. Thanks, --Geoff =================================================================== Geoff Spradley gfs@ucsd.edu Academic Computing Services (619) 822-0098 V University of California, San Diego (619) 534-7018 F =================================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Unable to use serial ports (NS3.3p1 Intel) Date: 28 Jan 1997 02:10:01 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5ckc8p$jtl$1@Venus.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.mcs.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25067 comp.sys.next.hardware:26861 Scenario: NEXTSTEP 3.3p1 on Intel installed on a drive, which is too small to fit developer. Disk is dumped and restored to a larger disk. Situation: kermit will not speak to either /dev/tty*a or /dev/tty*b. Details: The major and minor numbers on the serial port devices aren't exactly the same as they are on NEXTSTEP 3.3p1 on black. I removed the tty*b devices and ran "MAKEDEV STD" on them and rebooted. The error message changed from a "not a terminal device" error to a "can't open connection" error. Prior to this change, attempts to access tty*a devices resulted in a long pause before the error, while attempts to access tty*b devices returned error conditions immediately. More details: ASUS P/I-P55T2P4 v3.0, AHA2940U, Matrox Millenium 4M, standard serial and parallel ports, Intel EtherExpress Pro/10. Drivers: include Serial Port 3.33, PCI Bus 3.30, ISA/EISA Bus 3.31, Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge 3.31. Questions: How do I get my serial ports to work? Did something go wrong during dump/restore? How can this be avoided in future? Comment: Sometimes I hate computers. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: schwebby@aol.com (Schwebby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD ROM Drives & Modems on NeXTstation Date: 28 Jan 1997 03:05:30 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 7 Message-ID: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I need to add a CD ROM drive and a modem to a NeXTstation. I have an Apple CD 300e+ external and an NEC Multispin 4X. Do I need NeXT drivers for these ? If so does anyone know where to get them ? I also have a Global Village TP Platinum 33.6 Mac modem. Can I attach this to the A serial port and use it ? Do I need some driver software here as well. Are there any WWW browsers like Mosaic, Netscape, etc available for NeXT ? Where ?...Thanks...Schwebby #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.fibr.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!news.es.com!news From: "Jason M. Smith" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTPrinter paper jam problem Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:08:06 -0700 Organization: Evans & Sutherland Lines: 46 Message-ID: <32ED1936.446B9B3D@es.com> References: <01bc0b05$87f76250$3374e3a5@delphi> NNTP-Posting-Host: rexel.corp.es.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) To: Eric Brown Eric Brown wrote: > > My NeXT printer sucks in the paper about 2 inches and then tells me it's > got a paper jam. If I'm lucky and nudge the paper in the right way, I won't > get the paper jam. But I'm not lucky very often and I couldn't imagine > doing this for every page. > > This isn't the problem talked about in the hardware faq. My printer only > seems off by a millimeter or so but I'm really stuck. Has anybody had > similar experiences? > > Thanks, > Eric YES! And, I found a solution... although it isn't recommended for the faint of heart. :) The problem with mine was that the rubber on the feed roller had become slick and cracked with age. You need to take your printer apart down to it's bare bones to get at this piece, unfortunately. Once you manage to get the &*#(@& thing out, you need to peel off the rubber and turn it inside out... the inside is nice and fresh. Reassemble the printer and voila. It works great. (You can even run the printer when it's gutted - a couple of switches need to be manually held down, but you can do it.) If anyone can forward you a technical manual for instructions on taking the printer apart and putting it back together again, I'm sure you'll have an easier time of it than I did. It wasn't *difficult*, just time consuming. One nice thing - almost all the screws are identical... you don't have to keep track of which goes where, except for a select few. I will say this - the NeXT printer is built like a tank. :) BTW, previous to this drastic step, I tried scoring the rubber to rough it up, adding bits of masking tape to create a tread, *wood glue*... this did the trick though. Good luck! -- Jason M. Smith Software Engineer 1215 S. McClelland St. 600 Komas Dr. Display Group Salt Lake, UT 84105 Salt Lake City, UT 84158 Evans & Sutherland (801) 486-2378 (H) (801) 588-7552 (W) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!usc!usenet From: "Richard P. Muller" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/Intel questions Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:09:15 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California Lines: 18 Sender: rmuller@chem2.usc.edu Message-ID: <32EE169B.446B@rcf.usc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chem2.usc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; AIX 2) I'm thinking of buying a Pentium Pro to run Openstep. I want to use one at work as a workstation/Xterminal, and another one at home for PPP stuff. + Is there a good ethernet board that will work with this? + What modems will and won't work? + Has Openstep been optimized for Pentium Pro? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Rick -- Richard P. Muller, Ph.D. rmuller@invitro.usc.edu Department of Chemistry, SGM 418 http://www-rcf.usc.edu/~rmuller University of Southern California Office 213-740-7671 Los Angeles, CA 90089-1062 FAX 213-740-2701 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!not-for-mail From: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTEP/Openstep on a NEC Versa 4050C Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:57:48 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5cjfds$f2e$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: spectra.audiospeech.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-D-00000 Is NEXTSTEP/Openstep compatible with the NEC Versa 4050C system? Thanks for any assistance that can be offered. ... John -- John Nicol School of Audiology and Speech Sciences University of British Columbia Electronic mail: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca (NeXTmail welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news1.best.com!news.exodus.net!news From: sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 28 Jan 1997 07:27:43 GMT Organization: exodus communications, inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup41-berkeley.autobahn.org X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) wrote: >In article , "Mitchell Allen" > wrote: > >>"Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse >>sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT >>keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? > Hey, has anyone had problems with their fingers using the ADB mouse? I have used the non-ADB as well as the ADB keyboards, I prefere the ADB one. But the ADB mouse really sucks. I can't use it for long before getting a cramp in the knuckle. It's definitely not ergonomic. Sean. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Unable to use serial ports (NS3.3p1 Intel) Date: 28 Jan 1997 02:31:45 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5ckdhh$k58$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <5ckc8p$jtl$1@Venus.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.mcs.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25070 comp.sys.next.hardware:26867 font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: >Situation: kermit will not speak to either /dev/tty*a or /dev/tty*b. A perusal of the NeXTanswers driver overview web pages reveals what I should have known: TTY Port Server 3.33 is also required as a driver to get this to work. Hopefully this will fix my addled brains. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!mdporter From: mdporter@earthlink.net (Michael D. Porter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Battery's fine, Color Turbo still won't power up. Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:45:18 -0800 Organization: MDP Computer Consulting Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cust48.max9.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 In article , jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: > Subject pretty much covers it. I've just bought a Color Turbo ADB > slab, and It won't throw the relay when I hit the power key on the Keyboard. > > I've tried swapping the battery, and the power supply, to no avail. > > Anyone know if there's some other common failure mode besides the battery > dying? Try a different keyboard if you haven't done so already. Perhaps there is something wrong with the keyboard cable or the keyboard itself. -- Michael D. Porter MDP Computer Consulting mdporter@earthlink.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!visi.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.229.87.25!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!news From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: swapfile/harddrive qwestion Date: 18 Jan 1997 14:54:25 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 27 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rebus.physics.mcgill.ca X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Hello, from previous experience with SUNs, having swap partitions on multiple drives results in a system that is much faster than the same one with just one consolidated swap partion. I was wondering if this is the case for NeXT Black? If so tell me your stories on set-up, drawbacks and advantages you experienced. thank you nick -- B. N. Bondoc pager: 514 - 930 - 1385 ===================================================== office addr: Ernest Rutherford Physics Building Physics Department, McGill University 3600 University Street, Room 223 Montreal, PQ, Canada, H3A 2T8 phone: 514 - 398 - 5938 fax: 514 - 398 - 7022 ===================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wrdiss1.robins.af.mil!wpdis03.wpafb.af.mil!usenet From: Eric P Baenen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD Recorders on Black hardware? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:33:02 -0500 Organization: WL/AACI (https://www.mbvlab.wpafb.af.mil/) Lines: 9 Message-ID: <32EE627E.6708@mbvlab.wpafb.af.mil> Reply-To: Eric P Baenen NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.131.121.22 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Has anyone had any experience using a CDROM writer (external SCSI) on black hardware? What brand and model? Did you need to do anything special to get it to work? Any special software or drivers required? Know of any other brands/models that work? Thanks, Eric ebaenen@dnaco.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!tgritton From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:09:52 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dd10-108.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.1 In article <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net>, sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu wrote: >tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) wrote: >>In article , "Mitchell Allen" >> wrote: >> >>>"Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse >>>sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT >>>keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? >> > >Hey, has anyone had problems with their fingers using the ADB mouse? I have >used the non-ADB as well as the ADB keyboards, I prefere the ADB one. But the >ADB mouse really sucks. I can't use it for long before getting a cramp in the >knuckle. It's definitely not ergonomic. At MacWorld Expo SF I came across an ergonomic mouse made by Contour, comes in three sizes and left/right hand versions. I'm using a large left with my NeXTstation (ADB). -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!oronet!i441.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: 29 Jan 1997 01:16:48 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i441.oro.net I am searching for some sites that cover all the hardware available that NeXT made. Any out there... Tom #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: cybobob@mindspring.com (Nick Sharpe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI Rage under OpenStep 4.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:36:52 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 6 Message-ID: <32efa950.77463366@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip120.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 29 Jan 1997 01:41:11 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 I was wondering if anyone else has tried running NeXTSTEP or OpenStep with a ATI 3D Expression. Thanks a lot. Nick Sharpe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.indiana.edu!news.indiana.edu!not-for-mail From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Battery's fine, Color Turbo still won't power up. Date: 28 Jan 1997 09:07:48 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Lines: 14 Distribution: na Message-ID: <5cl17l$8gv@sawshark.cs.indiana.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sawshark.cs.indiana.edu NNTP-Posting-User: hess >In article , jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: > >> Subject pretty much covers it. I've just bought a Color Turbo ADB >> slab, and It won't throw the relay when I hit the power key on the Keyboard. >> >> I've tried swapping the battery, and the power supply, to no avail. >> >> Anyone know if there's some other common failure mode besides the battery >> dying? The really embarrassing solution is to discover that you've reversed the video cable ;-) (The "Y" connector has to go on the slab, with one tail to the sound box and one tail to the monitor.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!nntp.bnl.gov!usenet From: doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: biff and 10BaseT vs. thin net on black hardware Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:55:10 GMT Organization: American Physical Society Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5cjboe$m40@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> Reply-To: : doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.199.52.132 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25078 comp.sys.next.hardware:26875 comp.sys.next.bugs:4172 Hi, A friend of mine encountered the following peculiar problem: After a network upgrade from a thin net (coax) to 10BaseT network, doing 'biff y' in a Terminal.app window causes two sets of alerts to appear each time mail is received. This seems only to be related to which network connector the machine is using. Here is an excerpt from his description of the problem: >sure enough, i pulled the 10baseT out and fed through a 10baseT to >thinwire adapter plugged into usual thinwire port, and a single biff >alert. network is the same, only difference is which network port it >thinks it's using (and if i pull network connection entirely then last >used remains default, hence double biff even after unplugging 10baseT). > >can cycle back and forth (without rebooting, or with rebooting, doesn't >matter), totally reproducible (presumably on all the black slabs): double >biff alert with 10baseT, single with thinwire... He is running NeXTSTEP 3.3 (unpatched I believe) on a 25 MHz mono NeXTstation. netstat and ifconfig show no difference when switching between behaviors. So, has anyone seen anything like this before, or know what may be causing the problem? Cheers, Mark doyle@aps.org #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep on Versa 6000 (Does it work) References: <32EAAF3C.24A8@earthlink.net> Reply-To: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch From: shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) NNTP-Posting-Host: iphysiolhp2.unil.ch Message-ID: <32ee1e03.0@cisun2000.unil.ch> Date: 28 Jan 97 15:40:51 GMT Lines: 17 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!swidir.switch.ch!cisun2000.unil.ch!iphysiolhp2.unil.ch Darryl Anton wrote: > anyone ever try nextstep on a Versa 6000 I have OPENSTEP 4.0 running on a Versa 6030. It works. With a few exceptions. I had to first install OPENSTEP on the disk from another machine. The only problem I've had is that the PCMCIA driver doesn't work so great. Some people have said it crashes immediately and hangs the machine. However I have been able to use (if that's the word for it) a Xircom IIps ethernet card with OPENSTEP 4.0. However the performance was very poor. I would be so happy if NeXT released a newer PCIC driver which supported the newer chips. Other than that it's fantastic to have OPENSTEP at 1024x768 (see bifrost workstations for the great driver) on a portable. -sean n and a Cube, but I'd rather not carry the 21" one around without knowing it's going to work. :-) -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.enteract.com!news From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Another SCSI drive question Date: 29 Jan 1997 02:46:28 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5cmdm4$475@eve.enteract.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: baphomet-35.d.enteract.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 FWIW, I've been using a Quantum 1.2GB Fireball for three years. Maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant of the problems, though. In any event, I'm looking at 2 GB drives (to use inside my station) and wonder if anyone has had experience with any of the following: Micropolis 4421 (2.1 GB) Quantum Tempest (2.1 GB) Quantum Tempest (3.2 GB) thanks. -Kevin -- Kevin Coffee d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!sn.no!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.webspan.net!ix.netcom.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!server1.nw.ixe.net!wiwo.nl!awt-nl!news From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: next.awt.nl Message-ID: Sender: news@AWT.NL Organisation: AWT Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5cl4eo$gt7@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:35:44 GMT Lines: 29 Christian Neuss wrote: >"Mitchell Allen" wrote: >>Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony IIYama manufactures 'Diamondtron' monitors, which are Trinitron-clones. >>manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set >>the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way >>down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint >>black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of >>a trinitron. BTW FIMI = Philips (made in Italy). I don't know what tube (CRT) they use. Does anybody have the schematics of the FIMI yet? -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.algonet.se!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives & Modems on NeXTstation Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:51:59 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: Schwebby In-Reply-To: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> On 28 Jan 1997, Schwebby wrote: > I need to add a CD ROM drive and a modem to a NeXTstation. I have an Apple > CD 300e+ external and an NEC Multispin 4X. Do I need NeXT drivers for > these ? If so does anyone know where to get them ? Both of these should "just work". I'm using a CD300e on my 'station. It's true "plug'n'play". (Eat that, Microsoft! :)) > I also have a Global Village TP Platinum 33.6 Mac modem. Can I attach > this to the A serial port and use it ? Do I need some driver software > here as well. You'll need to buy or make a proper serial cable for it. Mac serial cables probably won't work properly. Look at the man page for zs for information on building a cable. Or simply buy one from Deep Space Technologies (www.deepspacetech.com) for $25. > Are there any WWW browsers like Mosaic, Netscape, etc available for > NeXT? Where? Netscape is not available for NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP. Mosaic is available if you use a commercial (like Cub'X) or freeware (like MouseX) X server on your NeXT. However, there's no need to go through the hassle of configuring X on your NeXT when OmniWeb and Netsurfer are available. Both are very capable, Netscape-2-ish browsers, supporting tables and frames, etc. Netsurfer is faster and supports animated GIFs, but is not free (individual licenses are $49). OmniWeb is more Netscape-compatible, and is free for individual users. Hope this helps. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!chi-news.cic.net!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.139.9.15!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199701281840.NAA05049@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 6fcc5fd52a4fa0d3fef4bb1f2e0fd0a4 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 13:40:51 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXTPrinter paper jam problem Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 6fcc5fd52a4fa0d3fef4bb1f2e0fd0a4 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 23 The instructions for taking the printer apart are at: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html or send me (luomat@peak.org) a message with the SUBJECT send-ascii printer-misc or send-mime printer-misc TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!news.duq.edu!newsfeed.pitt.edu!usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu!shaffer From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball jumper config??? Date: 29 Jan 1997 14:37:24 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 25 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: durer.phyast.pitt.edu Hello, I just bought a 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball (I know, I know, everyone is complaining about these disks). It didn't come with docs and the jumper descriptions on the top of the drive (PK CS DS SP) don't match the names of the jumpers on the drive (A2 A1 A0 TE) and even if they did I don't know what they mean. I assume that A2 A1 and A0 are SCSI ID jumpers but what about TE? Anyway, how should I set the jumpers so that I can use this drive as an internal boot drive on my NeXTstation? BTW, If I use the factory default I get the message "Can't find any CD-ROM's" when trying to install NEXTSTEP. I assume that this is a termination or SCSI ID conflict problem. Any hints are greatly appreciated. David Shaffer --- -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 shaffer@phyast.pitt.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.belnet.be!swsbe6.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!svgotcha.ubs.net!svnews.ubinet.ubs.com!svusenet.ubs.ch!szhwit From: szhwit@svusnet.ubs.ch (Christoph Widmer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM 365 notebook Date: 29 Jan 1997 14:18:14 GMT Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5cnm76-87f@svusenet.ubs.ch> Hi NeXT's compatibiliy guide lists under compatible notebooks the IBM 365. Does anybody has expirience with this notebook running NeXTStep 3.3? Thanks Christoph Christoph.z.h.w.i.t.Widmer@ubs.ch cwidmer@mail.spiderweb.ch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!noc.van.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:08:38 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 >At MacWorld Expo SF I came across an ergonomic mouse made by Contour, comes >in three sizes and left/right hand versions. I'm using a large left with my >NeXTstation (ADB). I've been using one of these along with my Kenisis keyboard now for several months. The difference in having a properly sized mouse and properly shaped is amazing. Contours now come in 4 sizes, and left/right hands, and are available in PS2, ADB and SUN configurations. Definately worth the $50 or so for one. Its great to have the same mouse on all my different hardware boxes. :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac Mouse Date: 29 Jan 97 12:14:07 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <32EF626F.1F61@gcomm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.51.243 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Wed, Jan 29, 1997 9:45 AM, amando@gcomm.com wrote: > Recently I bought a used Nextstation and the mouse is really heavy! > Doesn anybody knows if a Mac mouse can be used with the Nextstation. > The > nextstation is ADB. Heavy? I thought it was flimsy and uncomfortable. Anyway, you can connect any ADB mouse (Apple or otherwise) to an ADB NeXT. The same goes for keyboards. --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:17:21 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 23 Message-ID: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Thomas Ferreira In-Reply-To: 21340b29fcf0f60c6f7a97a4e687a658 - X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat > I am searching for some sites that cover all the hardware available that > NeXT made. Any out there... what sorts of things are you looking for? We can probably come up with a list here (others can add/correct): 030 cube 040 cube 040 slab 040 color slab 040 turbo slab 040 turbo color slab NeXT Dimension NeXT ADB They also had a CD drive. TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!compuserve.com!news.compuserve.com!newsmaster From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac Mouse Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:45:03 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 6 Message-ID: <32EF626F.1F61@gcomm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hd14-159.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Recently I bought a used Nextstation and the mouse is really heavy! Doesn anybody knows if a Mac mouse can be used with the Nextstation. The nextstation is ADB. TIA Amando Blasco #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!79.phoenix-001.az.dial-access.att.net!user From: yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: IBM Ultrastar where can I get it??? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:32:30 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.168.79 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26889 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16203 comp.sys.next.misc:24905 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25089 Hi, I need some advise. I am trying to buy the IBM Ultrastar ES 2.1GB FSCSI2 (not the wide version) harddisk. I tried to get it from NECX but they don't have it rigth now. Does anyone know whereelse I can buy it?. Thank you York #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!news.crystalball.com!not-for-mail From: Yi Liu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball jumper config??? Date: 29 Jan 1997 16:11:41 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5cnsrt$c0i$1@news.crystalball.com> References: Reply-To: liuyi@crystalball.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp13.crystalball.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) wrote: > ... > I just bought a 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball (I know, I know, everyone is > complaining about these disks). It didn't come with docs and the > jumper descriptions on the top of the drive (PK CS DS SP) don't match > the names of the jumpers on the drive (A2 A1 A0 TE) and even if they > did I don't know what they mean. I assume that A2 A1 and A0 are SCSI > ID jumpers but what about TE? Anyway, how should I set the jumpers so > that I can use this drive as an internal boot drive on my NeXTstation? The jumpers you're looking for (A2,A1,A0,TE) are on the soft underbelley of the drive---where all the chips and stuff are, not on the front, where PK,CS,DS,SP are. The Quantum TM3200 comes with 3 jumpers, and by default it's on A0, A1, and TE. So it's set to SCSI id 3 with Termination Enabled. Quantum has the jumper settings and specs of this drive on its webpage, take a look at: http://www.quantum.com/support/scsidisk/fb3confs.htm It should answer your questions about jumper settings. I usually set my boot disk to SCSI id 1, and CDROM drive to 0 when I want to boot from the CD. You internal drive (3.2GB Fireball) needs to be terminated if it's the only internal SCSI device. > BTW, If I use the factory default I get the message "Can't find any > CD-ROM's" when trying to install NEXTSTEP. I assume that this is a > termination or SCSI ID conflict problem. Any hints are greatly > appreciated. Did you terminate the external CDROM drive? It seems a ID conflict problem to me. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi 9h, Inc. Dallas, TX #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Doug Phelps Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:56:43 -0500 Organization: www.pagesz.net/~doug Lines: 82 Message-ID: <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> Reply-To: doug@pagesz.net NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb9dd.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 29 Jan 1997 19:53:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: Jack Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2321 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:129330 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:84872 comp.sys.next.hardware:26891 Jack wrote: > > folks, > need some help, please! > I have a P60, 16MB Ram, some 1MB graphics-card,quad CD-Rom > I want to upgrade, so should I > > buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? > more Ram ? > better graphics-card ? > better CD-Rom ? Jack, I would look at your motherboard before you go and get an MMX CPU! make sure it is upgradable to the speed you are looking at. And make sure it will support the dual voltage requirments of MMX. If it were me, I would leave the CD Rom drive alone, it should serve you well and you will see little if any performance gain from upgrading. Graphics Card!!!!! YES, this can really improve your perfomance. Several good options out there. If you are doing lots of 3D games then you may want to look at one of the 3Dfx cards or the Verite card if you want to save some cash. The P60 does need to go soon. Again I would look at the motherboard first. You can get a good board from $130 to $180 US dollars in US. Don't know your pricing but this should give you an idea of what you are looking at. I would also consider the Cyrix CPU's. Very good value and great performance. Although if you play Quake alot you may want to stick with Intel. > > or buy some P150-Chip because it's not worth all the money ? The 150 is another good value. If you consider the new Motherboard option, look at the boards that support the 75Mhz bus speed. Such as the M Tech R534, Gigabyte, and Asus as well as several others. And use the p150 with the 75MHz setting and you will get very good performance jump over the P60. Don't know about where you are but the 150's have really come down in price. Using the 150 with the 75MHz bus will give you performance of a 166 from what I have read. > > Maybe I just buy a console, that's cheaper (I play games,mostly) I really hope you don't do this. But it is your money. > > or do you have any other ideas ? > > Please help, I don't know what to do! Well, you need to do some real upgrading. I would first look at a good graphics card. You will get some improvement, but it will be limited on the CPU you have. You can always move the card to whatever you upgrade to! The CPU and Motherboard would be next and then the Memory. Last would be the CDRom. I have found little improvement of going to an 8X from a 4X, installs are quicker and some of the movie sequences are better, but game play itself really seems to be about the same. Good Option M Tech R534 Motherboard $179.00 Cyrix P166+ CPU $169.00 Good 2d/3d Card $149.00 These are U.S. Prices! I am sure you have an idea of what this would translate to in Austria. And if you have had MMX about a week then you are not waiting very long for the new stuff. > > Thanks in advance! > > Jack > > P.S.:I'm from Austria; everything is more expensive ( I think so) and comes > to our strores later (MMX is here since about a week) > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!newshost.uni-koblenz.de!not-for-mail From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball jumper config??? Date: 29 Jan 1997 15:59:45 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5cns5h$hsi$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nihil.uni-koblenz.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) wrote: > I just bought a 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball (I know, I know, everyone is > complaining about these disks). It didn't come with docs and the > jumper descriptions on the top of the drive (PK CS DS SP) don't match > the names of the jumpers on the drive (A2 A1 A0 TE) and even if they > did I don't know what they mean. It looks as if you've got a SCSI disk with an EIDE label on top... A0/A1/A2 are bits 0, 1, 2 of the SCSI-ID, "TE" means "Termination Enabled". Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Another SCSI drive question Date: 29 Jan 1997 18:03:08 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5co3cs$133e@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5cmdm4$475@eve.enteract.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I've only seen the quantum problems on the 4.3 gig drives. Here we had 3 go out in three months on three different servers. All were between 6-12 months old. I have not use the models below, but my experence with micropolis is great. (and fast) Geof Kevin Coffee (me@nextbox.enteract.com) wrote: : FWIW, I've been using a Quantum 1.2GB Fireball for three years. Maybe : I'm just blissfully ignorant of the problems, though. : In any event, I'm looking at 2 GB drives (to use inside my station) : and wonder if anyone has had experience with any of the following: : Micropolis 4421 (2.1 GB) : Quantum Tempest (2.1 GB) : Quantum Tempest (3.2 GB) : thanks. : -Kevin : -- : Kevin Coffee : d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n : NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114@cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 29 Jan 1997 19:39:21 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> NNTP-Posting-Host: acubed.mgmt.purdue.edu "Jack" writes > buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? Please excuse my ignorance, but I've been wondering for a while now just what this MMX thing is..... Thanks much - Jon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!news.crystalball.com!not-for-mail From: Yi Liu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Can I put a turbo slab board inside a cube? Date: 29 Jan 1997 22:14:20 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5coi3s$elt$1@news.crystalball.com> Reply-To: liuyi@crystalball.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp13.crystalball.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Folks, I recently upgraded to an ND Turbo Cube and now my old turbo slab just sits in the corner collecting dust. Although the board in the slab looks different from the motherboard (040 33MHz) in my cube, I am wondering whether there's a way that I can pull it from the slab and put it in the cube. Is it possible? Or do I have to buy a "cube" turbo board? Thanks, liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII} #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,su.computers.next Subject: can't find NS partition on 2nd SCSI hard disk Date: 29 Jan 1997 22:29:39 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 43 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5coj0j$j53@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:24910 comp.sys.next.hardware:26896 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25095 I just installed a 2nd SCSI HD into my NS/Intel 3.2 system. I used fdisk to split it into 3 partitions (in order: DOS, NEXTSTEP, Linux). NEXTSTEP doesn't seem to recognize the NS partition of the 2nd disk. My 1st HD has 2 partitions (DOS, NEXTSTEP). NS can see both of these, and the new DOS partition on the new disk, but not the NEXTSTEP partition. NS can see the raw device (/dev/rsd1h), and in fact, I used NS's version of fdisk to do the partitioning. Before partitioning, NS could see the disk and I even formatted it and could read and write on it. But I couldn't leave things like this since I wanted to have it split so I could run Linux. Now, no directory comes up under '/' for the new NS partition, nor do I get a message when I log on saying "SCSI disk unreadable, would you like to format it", as I did before it was partitioned. The Console shows a message that complains that the device is busy and so it gave up trying to mount it. (Full Console output included below.) Can NS handle a 2nd SCSI disk that is partitioned? (Misc: There are no IDE HDs, only 2 SCSI ones. The SCSI IDs are: 1st HD = 0, 2nd HD = 1, CD-ROM = 2, Adaptec 1542cf SCSI controller = 7. The raw devices in NS for the HDs are: 1st = /dev/rsd0h, 2nd = /dev/rsd1h.) -Karl Console output: Software Version 3.2 (Thunder5S) probing for DOS Filesystem name: DOS Jan 29 14:18:33 Workspace: Mounted DOS disk at /dos-win95 probing for CDROM probing for DOS Jan 29 14:18:36 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /dos-win95-2 probing for DOS Filesystem name: DOS mount: /dev/rsd1h on /dos-win95-2_2: Device busy mount: giving up on: /dos-win95-2_2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Are 4x9 60ns 30pin *3-Chip* SIMMS okay for NeXTstation 25Mhz? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5bk81t$6vm@alonzo.cs.sfu.ca> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 19:42:40 GMT Lines: 30 In article <5bk81t$6vm@alonzo.cs.sfu.ca> oneill@cs.sfu.ca (Melissa O'Neill) writes: > What with the Apple/NeXT merger, I figure I should wait a little > longer before buying a new machine, and so to get more life out > of my aging NeXTstation I'm going to give it more memory, going > from 20MB to 32MB. > > Checking prices I see that 4x9 60ns 30pin *3-Chip* parity SIMMS > are cheaper than the 4x8 70ns 30pin 8-chip non-parity SIMMS that > are usually recommended (well, 80-100ns are recommended, but I > don't know that such things can be bought new any more). > > However, I seem to remember seeing someone say that the tried > the 3-chip variety of SIMMs and had problems, which seems to go > against my intuition since I'd have thought the 3-chip kind would > be functionally equivalent to the 9-chip kind. SO, I'm hoping to > hear from some people out there who have experience either way... > Three chip 30pin SIMMs can cause trouble due to a changed refresh timing. But I've also heard of people who used them successfully. And I, by the way, experienced some kind of trouble with newer conventional chips... If you could find someone who'd be willing to take 'em back if they don't work... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu!shaffer From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball jumper config??? Date: 29 Jan 1997 20:39:02 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: durer.phyast.pitt.edu In-reply-to: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu's message of 29 Jan 1997 14:37:24 GMT Forget it. I just took off all of the jumpers except TE and it worked. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth... David -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 shaffer@phyast.pitt.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!news From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac Mouse Date: 30 Jan 1997 02:44:12 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5cp1ts$1ld0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <32EF626F.1F61@gcomm.com> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm286-23.dialip.mich.net X-MSUnetID: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 1997 9:45 AM, amando@gcomm.com > wrote: > > Recently I bought a used Nextstation and the mouse is really heavy! > > Doesn anybody knows if a Mac mouse can be used with the Nextstation. > > The > > nextstation is ADB. > > Heavy? I thought it was flimsy and uncomfortable. Anyway, you can connect > any ADB mouse (Apple or otherwise) to an ADB NeXT. The same goes for > keyboards. > > Can a non-ADB mouse be connected to the ADB system? Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!news1.ni.net!news From: Brian Schuster Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc Subject: ## WE NEED 4000 HDD NOW! ## Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 23:03:52 -0800 Organization: Network Intensive Lines: 34 Message-ID: <32F047D8.6C58@microsys.net> Reply-To: bschuster@microsys.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.183.194.129 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.misc:5144 comp.sys.next.hardware:26900 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16212 comp.sys.powerpc.misc:1773 ## WE NEED 4000 HDD NOW! ## HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE NEED TO FILL OPEN PURCHASE ORDER FOR THE FOLLOWING HARD DRIVES IMMEDIATELY: BROKERS, ***********THIS IS A NO NONSENSE REQUEST*************** ***BROKER-BROKER-BROKER GAMES WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.*** WE WILL PROTECT YOU, YOUR CLIENT AND 'REASONABLE' COMMISSIONS. BUT WE MUST DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE HOLDER OF THE PRODUCT. TIME ALLOWS NO OTHER OPTIONS. OUR CLIENT HAS PURCHASED MORE THAN $1,500,000 WORTH OF DRIVES, IN THE LAST WEEK. CALL IMMEDIATELY IF YOU HAVE THIS PRODUCT IN ANY QUANTITY AND WE'LL ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER WITHIN MINUTES. MANUFACTURER MODEL NUMBER QUANTITY NEEDED TARGET SEAGATE ST 32155 WC 1500 $420 SEAGATE ST 32155 W 1300 $420 SEAGATE ST 32550 W 300 $420 SEAGATE ST 32550 WC 600 $675 SEAGATE ST 15150 W 300 $BEST CONTACT BILL SANDERS PHONE: 1-619-433-1864 FAX: 1-619-433-6862 bsanders@pacbell.net #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!woodlawn.uchicago.edu!jbleffer From: "Jonathan B. Leffert" Subject: partitioning a 4gb scsi drive X-Nntp-Posting-Host: woodlawn.uchicago.edu Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Sender: jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 07:16:17 GMT Lines: 17 I'm running OpenStep 4.1 for intel. I have a 4gb scsi disk drive which is currently partitioned like so: 2gb OpenStep 500mb Dos I'd like to use the remaining 1.5 gb but I don't know how to do this. fdisk won't let me created another Nextstep partition. If deleteing the dos partition would do it, that would be fine. any suggestions would be helpfull. jon Jonathan B. Leffert "Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns, just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." -- Guns n' Roses, Breakdown finger -l jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!nntp.crl.com!rodelo.cyberverse.com!news From: "Zacharias J. Beckman" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: How to create serial port speed 38400??? Date: 30 Jan 1997 08:05:45 GMT Organization: Dreams Lines: 18 Message-ID: <01bc0e84$7c4fae80$690497cf@opus.dreams.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: opus.dreams.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26902 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25101 I very much would like to create a serial device which operates at 38,400 baud. Unfortunately, NEXTSTEP seems to think this an odd speed, as whenever I try the port fails to operate correctly. I've followed what I believe are the correct steps to create the port (cufa38400), but using 'tip cufa38400' results in a connection that fails to communicate with the modem. Tip responds with 'connected,' so it appears the setup is correct. I can type whatever I like... but apparently the modem never receives it, or I never receive the modems response. Any suggestions or step-by-step notes on creating and verifying such a connection would be greatly appreciated. Please email me--if anyone is interested, I'll be glad to post a summary. Thanks! --- Zacharias J. Beckman - zac@dreams.com - 310-822-1583 vox, 822-0163 fax 520 Washington Boulevard, Suite #339, Marina del Rey, California 90292 http://www.dreams.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:37:11 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu In-Reply-To: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> On 28 Jan 1997 sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu wrote: > Hey, has anyone had problems with their fingers using the ADB mouse? I have > used the non-ADB as well as the ADB keyboards, I prefere the ADB one. But the > ADB mouse really sucks. I can't use it for long before getting a cramp in the > knuckle. It's definitely not ergonomic. Are you depressing the buttons with the tips of your fingers (a la the old NeXT mouse)? If so, then no wonder you're getting cramps. I believe you're supposed to sort of drape your hand over the mouse, laying your first two fingers flat on the buttons. Then just push your fingers down slightly to click. Light-years ahead of the original NeXT mouse, IMO. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!news From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:23:32 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5cq3s4$on0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5cl4eo$gt7@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm169-29.dialip.mich.net X-MSUnetID: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) Cc: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl In Drs G. C. Th. Wierda wrote: > Christian Neuss wrote: > >"Mitchell Allen" wrote: > >>Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony > > IIYama manufactures 'Diamondtron' monitors, which are Trinitron-clones. > > >>manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set > >>the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way > >>down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint > >>black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of > >>a trinitron. > > BTW FIMI = Philips (made in Italy). I don't know what tube (CRT) they use. > > Does anybody have the schematics of the FIMI yet? > > -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!news From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:34:20 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 54 Message-ID: <5cq4gc$on0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5cl4eo$gt7@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm169-29.dialip.mich.net X-MSUnetID: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) Cc: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl In Drs G. C. Th. Wierda wrote: > Christian Neuss wrote: > >"Mitchell Allen" wrote: > >>Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony > > IIYama manufactures 'Diamondtron' monitors, which are Trinitron-clones. > > >>manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set > >>the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way > >>down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint > >>black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of > >>a trinitron. > > BTW FIMI = Philips (made in Italy). I don't know what tube (CRT) they use. > > Does anybody have the schematics of the FIMI yet? > > Sorry for the previous empty post :-))) After reading all the comments about the Trinitron monitors I wonder: Why do people prefer it over the FIMI? We bought a monitor for an Intel based machine and I was about to return the monitor we got because I hated the two lines in the first and third quarter of the height of the screen. I thought the monitor was defective and I still cannot believe that the lines are a FEATURE of the monitor! Also, I can see all the fine rows of pixels (it is 21" monitor) on the screen. They are physical lines, not caused by the resolution I use. And the sucker flickers like hell (while looking at the screen only using the peripheral vision of the eyes. Yes, we got a good video card, that shouldn't be the reason. On the other hand, I am happy with all our NeXT monitors by FIMI (21 and 17"). You don't see any pixels, any physical lines and the picture is extremely stable. It looks more like a photograph than a computer screen. The only question would be the radiation, I guess. But the picture is superb. Good luck. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!jason From: Jason Wagner Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compate NeXT to PC? Date: 30 Jan 1997 08:50:03 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: jason@206.165.5.106 (jason) Greets. Being a PC nerd for 16 years I am unsure what to expect from the 68040 CPU series. Can anyone compare the various flavors of NeXT machines to their Intel PC equivalents? I am very interested in picking up a small used NeXT machine to tinker around with, and I'd like to know what kinds of performance levels I can expect. Thanks! Jason jason@primenet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!newslist.borland.com!news@borland.com From: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Trinitron vs Fimi Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:11:43 GMT Organization: Borland International Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5cqh5e$9c59@newslist.borland.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jhuang.borland.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 What is the Fimi monitor? How does it compare to the trinitron? How do i know if a monitor is trinitron or fimi? (i think mine is 4001). John #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!newshub.tc.umn.edu!newsstand.tc.umn.edu!usenet From: rleary@fordyn (Rolfe Leary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead monitor Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:20:53 GMT Organization: University of Minnesota Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5cql9l$hd0@epx.cis.umn.edu> Reply-To: rleary@fordyn.ncfes.umn.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: fordyn.ncfes.umn.edu I'd like to buy a new color monitor to replace the dead one on my Color Turbo, but I'm not sure what type of monitor will work. Any suggestions or recommendations? What type of adaptor will I need? Thanks. Rolfe #################################################################### From: "Jack" Subject: MMX-upgrading Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.2.0.125 Date: 29 Jan 97 19:09:00 GMT Lines: 17 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.icm.edu.pl!uw.edu.pl!news.nask.pl!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!info.xpoint.at! Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2337 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:129577 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:84961 comp.sys.next.hardware:26909 folks, need some help, please! I have a P60, 16MB Ram, some 1MB graphics-card,quad CD-Rom I want to upgrade, so should I buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? more Ram ? better graphics-card ? better CD-Rom ? or buy some P150-Chip because it's not worth all the money ? Maybe I just buy a console, that's cheaper (I play games,mostly) or do you have any other ideas ? Please help, I don't know what to do! Thanks in advance! Jack P.S.:I'm from Austria; everything is more expensive ( I think so) and comes to our strores later (MMX is here since about a week) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!newscaster-1.mcast.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compate NeXT to PC? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:24:20 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 27 Message-ID: <8mwCRIS00iWQQ8=WBQ@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 30-Jan-97 Compate NeXT to PC? by Jason Wagner@primenet.co > Being a PC nerd for 16 years I am unsure what to expect from the 68040 CPU > series. Can anyone compare the various flavors of NeXT machines to their > Intel PC equivalents? In terms of raw CPU power: A 25 MHz 68040 NeXT machine is roughly equal to a 486DX/33. A 33 MHz " " " " " " " " 486DX/50 or a 486DX2/66. However, the video systems and the rest of the hardware design has weathered the years better than CPU power. NeXT's have a fast internal bus and pipeline to the video memory which is comparible to a VLB card in terms of performance. They are nice machines to use when you've got to program, word process, or otherwise enter a lot of text, but you no longer want to use them for CPU-intensive stuff. Most people find a PC running Netscape to be a better platform for web browsing, for example. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!tgritton From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives & Modems on NeXTstation Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:58:43 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ad40-249.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.1 In article , Isaac wrote: >On 28 Jan 1997, Schwebby wrote: > >> I need to add a CD ROM drive and a modem to a NeXTstation. I have an Apple >> CD 300e+ external and an NEC Multispin 4X. Do I need NeXT drivers for >> these ? If so does anyone know where to get them ? > >Both of these should "just work". I'm using a CD300e on my 'station. >It's true "plug'n'play". (Eat that, Microsoft! :)) I took the CD ROM out of my PPC 7200 and plugged it into the internal harddrive connectors ( whilel running/booted with an external HD) and it just worked. ( did this to load the NeXTstep Dev 3.0 from a CD onto the 1 gig external HD) -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!jason From: Jason Wagner Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI Drives? Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:10:04 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5cqo5s$4vg@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: jason@206.165.5.104 (jason) I've got four Seagate/CDC 148MB FH SCSI-1 hard drives that came out of old Sun 368's... I am considering picking up a low-end, stripped mono NeXT station to play around on, and was wondering if these drives will work. Is the external SCSI connector on the back of these systems a 25-pin DB style or Centronics style, etc? If I go with a Cude I figur eI can get two inside and two in a tower on the outise, or with a Station I'd go with all four outside. Is this wishful thinking or will these ideas work? Thanks! Jason -- Regards. @@@@ _ @()@ Jason Wagner @@()@@ _(_)_ @()@() vVVVv @@@@ (_)@(_) ()@()@) (___) jason@primenet.com / (_) _\|/_ Y webmaster@automationplus.com \ | \ / |-----| \ | / www.primenet.com/~jason \\|// \\|/ \___/ \\\|// www.automationplus.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!netnews.nwnet.net!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!tgritton From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:36:14 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ad40-249.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.1 In article <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: >>At MacWorld Expo SF I came across an ergonomic mouse made by Contour, comes >>in three sizes and left/right hand versions. I'm using a large left with my >>NeXTstation (ADB). > > I've been using one of these along with my Kenisis keyboard now for >several months. > > The difference in having a properly sized mouse and properly shaped >is amazing. > > Contours now come in 4 sizes, and left/right hands, and are >available in PS2, ADB and SUN configurations. Definately worth the $50 or >so for one. > > Its great to have the same mouse on all my different hardware boxes. >:-) Now if someone would only provide a mouse driver for NeXT so that the other two buttons would work, or only perhaps the second button with the usual NeXT functionality. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!psinntp!vitro.com!usenet From: "Matt Kauffman" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:21:29 GMT Organization: Vitro Corporation Lines: 93 Message-ID: <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: matt-kauffman.vitro.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2340 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:129615 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:84971 comp.sys.next.hardware:26914 If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. MMK -- just another human resource Doug Phelps wrote in article <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net>... > Jack wrote: > > > > folks, > > need some help, please! > > I have a P60, 16MB Ram, some 1MB graphics-card,quad CD-Rom > > I want to upgrade, so should I > > > > buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? > > more Ram ? > > better graphics-card ? > > better CD-Rom ? > > Jack, I would look at your motherboard before you go and get an MMX > CPU! make sure it is upgradable to the speed you are looking at. And > make sure it will support the dual voltage requirments of MMX. > > If it were me, I would leave the CD Rom drive alone, it should serve you > well and you will see little if any performance gain from upgrading. > > Graphics Card!!!!! YES, this can really improve your perfomance. > Several good options out there. If you are doing lots of 3D games then > you may want to look at one of the 3Dfx cards or the Verite card if you > want to save some cash. > > The P60 does need to go soon. Again I would look at the motherboard > first. You can get a good board from $130 to $180 US dollars in US. > Don't know your pricing but this should give you an idea of what you are > looking at. I would also consider the Cyrix CPU's. Very good value and > great performance. Although if you play Quake alot you may want to > stick with Intel. > > > > > or buy some P150-Chip because it's not worth all the money ? > > The 150 is another good value. If you consider the new Motherboard > option, look at the boards that support the 75Mhz bus speed. Such as > the M Tech R534, Gigabyte, and Asus as well as several others. And use > the p150 with the 75MHz setting and you will get very good performance > jump over the P60. Don't know about where you are but the 150's have > really come down in price. Using the 150 with the 75MHz bus will give > you performance of a 166 from what I have read. > > > > > > Maybe I just buy a console, that's cheaper (I play games,mostly) > > I really hope you don't do this. But it is your money. > > > > > or do you have any other ideas ? > > > > Please help, I don't know what to do! > > > Well, you need to do some real upgrading. I would first look at a good > graphics card. You will get some improvement, but it will be limited on > the CPU you have. You can always move the card to whatever you upgrade > to! The CPU and Motherboard would be next and then the Memory. Last > would be the CDRom. I have found little improvement of going to an 8X > from a 4X, installs are quicker and some of the movie sequences are > better, but game play itself really seems to be about the same. > > Good Option > M Tech R534 Motherboard $179.00 > Cyrix P166+ CPU $169.00 > Good 2d/3d Card $149.00 > > These are U.S. Prices! I am sure you have an idea of what this would > translate to in Austria. > And if you have had MMX about a week then you are not waiting very long > for the new stuff. > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Jack > > > > P.S.:I'm from Austria; everything is more expensive ( I think so) and comes > > to our strores later (MMX is here since about a week) > > > #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: [Q] Can I put a turbo slab board inside a cube? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:04:18 GMT References: <5coi3s$elt$1@news.crystalball.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 20 In article <5coi3s$elt$1@news.crystalball.com>, Yi Liu wrote: >Folks, > >I recently upgraded to an ND Turbo Cube and now my old turbo slab just sits >in the corner collecting dust. Although the board in the slab looks >different from the motherboard (040 33MHz) in my cube, I am wondering whether >there's a way that I can pull it from the slab and put it in the cube. > You can't really do this, since the slab board doesn't have a NeXTbus connector. I suppose you could somehow make a bracket to mount it inside the cube chassis and then kludge up a conenctor for the power supply, but it seems like a lot of work. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!sn.no!hermod.uio.no!nntp.uio.no!in1.nntp.cais.net!news.smart.net!smarty.smart.net!not-for-mail From: nickle@smart.net (Mike Nickle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Can I put a turbo slab board inside a cube? Date: 30 Jan 1997 23:07:15 GMT Organization: Smartnet Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5cr9j3$mcd$1@news.smart.net> References: <5coi3s$elt$1@news.crystalball.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: smarty.smart.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 960817] : Yi Liu wrote: : > : >I recently upgraded to an ND Turbo Cube and now my old turbo slab just sits : >in the corner collecting dust. Although the board in the slab looks : >different from the motherboard (040 33MHz) in my cube, I am wondering whether : >there's a way that I can pull it from the slab and put it in the cube. : > : You can't really do this, since the slab board doesn't have a NeXTbus : connector. I suppose you could somehow make a bracket to mount it inside the : cube chassis and then kludge up a conenctor for the power supply, but it seems : like a lot of work. In all of the two m/b implementations that I have ever heard of the secondary m/b is used in a netboot configuration...typically as a PPP server or the like. If it were me in your situation, I would set the slab under the cube, BNC ethernet the two together and go to town. _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael D. Nickle || Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? nickle@smart.net || (But who will guard the guards themselves) http://www.smart.net/~nickle || Satires, VI, line 347 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dbtech.net!news.frognet.net!not-for-mail From: Charles Bennett Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:22:41 -0500 Organization: BenaTong Lines: 32 Message-ID: <32F0F501.136F@benatong.com> Reply-To: chuck@benatong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.185.27.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: Charles Bennett (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (WinNT; I) X-Priority: Normal I'm looking at replacing my old epson progression. (It's a refugee from the first NeXT->Intel porting camp :-) ) I found a p166+ (cyrix) on this motherboard for $359.00 and was wondering if it would work. I'm really waiting for a dual Power PC so I don't want to invest too much in a system my daughters will be playing games on after mid-year :-) Is there a FAQ collecting this type of info.. Details... 512K COAST 2.0 Extended Pipeline Burst Cache Triton II HX Chipset Universal Serial BUS Chip 4 PCI & 4 ISA Slots 4 (72) Pin SIMM Sockets, Up To 128 MEG (Supports EDO RAM) AMI Flash BIOS IDE Mode 4 Hard Drive & Floppy Controller 2 Serial 1 Parallel UART 16550 High Speed Ports TIA Chuck -- "It's inexcusable for scientists to torture animals; let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians." Henrik Ibsen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news.claremont.edu!not-for-mail From: ŸŸŸŸŸúÈ6·jim@acb2.cgs.edu (Jim Kieley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Digital Eye Info - Metaresearch Date: 30 Jan 1997 23:08:54 GMT Organization: The Claremont Colleges Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5cr9m6$blb$1@cinenews.claremont.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: acb2.cgs.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I came upon a Digital Eye Interface for black workstations which supports SVGA video output. The software and manual appear to be lost. Does anyone have a lead on how to obtain these. Jim Kieley jim@cgs.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.magicnet.net!nntp.newsfirst.com!nntp.crosslink.net!newshub.more.net!news.missouri.edu!usenet.umr.edu!sanjeev From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help.. [Network Printer].. Date: 31 Jan 1997 01:20:56 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5crhdo$a58$5@news.cc.umr.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.umr.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] HI, We have a pentium 133 running NextStep 3.3. I was trying to connect a Network printer (postScript printer) to this machine. What do I need to do for this to work. Thank you very much .. Sanjeev #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.magicnet.net!nntp.newsfirst.com!nntp.crosslink.net!newshub.more.net!news.missouri.edu!usenet.umr.edu!sanjeev From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help.. [CD ROM drive] .. Date: 31 Jan 1997 01:21:27 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5crhen$a58$6@news.cc.umr.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.umr.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I had installed a CD ROM driver (6x) on Pentium 133 running NS 3.3. Of late I cannot seem to access the CD ROM driver (for music CDs or otherwise). I was wondering what could have gone wrong. Could it have been some bug in CD Player that comes with the system. What do I need to do to correct this. Thank you .. Sanjeev #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: cybobob@mindspring.com (Nick Sharpe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will ATI 3D Expression work in NeXTSTEP Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:06:57 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 4 Message-ID: <32f10d0d.392955@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip88.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 30 Jan 1997 21:11:22 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 I heard that the chip in the 3D Expression is like the mach64, so does the mach64 driver work for a 3D Expression in NeXTSTEP? Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!brokaw.wa.com!not-for-mail From: Pei-Te Kao Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATAPI IDE CD-ROM (NEC) - having problem installing NextStep 3.3 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:33:09 -0800 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <32F159E5.E57@halcyon.com> Reply-To: pkao@halcyon.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm107-ip21.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Hi - In the last few weeks, I have been trying to install NextStep 3.3 on a Dell dimension XPS Pentium Pro200n without success! It has Adaptec 2940 UW scsi for the HD, and ATAPI EIDE 8X NEC CD-ROM drive on the primay EIDE controller now (it was on the secondary, I moved it to the primary). The drivers used were downloaded from the NeXTanswers - v3.37 for the Adaptec 2940 (this was chosen first during the installation) and v3.31 for EIDE and APTAPI. It dectected both the HD and the CD-ROM; however, after that it said something like: "hc0, ... APTAPI not ready to accept command, ... (DRQ not set, status=d1)" (something like that). It kept retrying and kept failing. I had to just turn off the machine. I have talked with NeXT tech support and was told that they have had this driver problem with NEC's drive (ATAPI EIDE). They said that I can attach an external SCSI CD ROM drive for installation. However, after it's installed it still can't recognize the internal NEC CD ROM drive. Is there anything else I can do? I really would like to make it work without getting an external drive or getting another internal one. Is there any other way to make it work? has any one done it successfully? Would really appreciate any helps. Thansk! Pei-Te #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!netaxs.com!news.fast.net!news.pgh.net!usenet From: lazer@pgh.net (Ron L.) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MTech R528 board and MMX ? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:38:43 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <32f214d4.11683182@news.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp24.s7.pgh.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2342 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:129690 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85002 comp.sys.next.hardware:26923 I just ordered a system with the M-technology R528 board and a P166MMX. Now I am concerned if this board actually supports mmx. My system is currently on its way via UPS and I'm expecting it in several days. I tried to search for this issue on the web and the only board that showed support in the specs for MMX on Mtech's site was the "new" R534 (Mustang). I have been told by the vendor I am purchasing from that the R528 does support MMX and is P55C compatable with a voltage core of 2.5 to 3.5 . Can anyone verify this? Thanks, Ron lazer@pgh.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!biosci!news.alaska.edu!news From: "Peter Q. Olsson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware, Subject: device driver for exabyte drive Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:46:20 -0900 Organization: Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks Lines: 21 Message-ID: <32F14EEC.73B3@gi.alaska.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: koyukuk.gi.alaska.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) I want to use an exabyte tapedrive (purchased from Sun) w/ an Intel machine running OpenStep 4.0. Do I need a device driver for this purpose, and if so, where do I go to find one? (or more information about this issue for that matter) PQO -- ############################################ # # Dr. Peter Q. Olsson # Geophysical Institute # University of Alaska Fairbanks # Fairbanks, AK 99775 # # voice: (907) 474-6477 # fax: (907) 474 7290 # e-mail: peter.olsson@gi.alaska.edu # ############################################# #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.cfa.org!not-for-mail From: nextsale@ibgi.com (Ed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:51:52 GMT Organization: IBGi Lines: 4 Message-ID: <32f01ac6.55696833@news.cfa.org> References: Reply-To: nextsale@ibgi.com NNTP-Posting-Host: monroe-128.dialup.frontiercomm.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 http://www.ibgi.com/nextsale.htm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dbtech.net!news.frognet.net!not-for-mail From: Charles Bennett Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Logitec Mouse on a NeXT Keyboard Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:30:41 -0500 Organization: BenaTong Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32F104F1.377C@benatong.com> References: <32E89346.2C4D@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl> Reply-To: chuck@benatong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.185.27.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: Charles Bennett (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (WinNT; I) X-Priority: Normal Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:24926 comp.sys.next.hardware:26926 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16225 I found it.. (It's no wonder I need a 4 gig drive..I never throw anything away :-) ) The name of the file is LogitecTrackManTrackballReplacment.ps and the author is John Karabaic jk@exnext.com I have made it avaiable for anonymous ftp at ftp.benatong.com in the /pub/next area ftp://ftp.benatong.com/pub/next/LogitechTrackManTrackballReplacement.ps Hope this helps. Chuck BenaTong makers of PowerGuardian for NeXTSTEP -- "It's inexcusable for scientists to torture animals; let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians." Henrik Ibsen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!berlin.snafu.de!cyberspam!usenet From: selina@shop.com Organization: Cat.Shop. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5cr4lc$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Control: cancel <5cr4lc$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de References: <5cr4lc$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Lines: 5 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:44:37 +1 X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "TheCopyCatShop" or "summary of auto-cancels" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Complete Canon Computer System at Closout Price. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!mjkobb From: mjkobb@netgate.net (Michael J. Kobb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MegaPixel Color Display on Mac?? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:06:09 -0800 Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mg128-040.ricochet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.4 Greetings, This is probably a FAQ, but I'm new to the idea of owning NeXT black hardware. Is it possible to use a NeXT Color MegaPixel Display with a Mac? Are there any video cards that support this display? Thanks, --Mike mjkobb@netgate.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!spool.mu.edu!newshub.tc.umn.edu!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compate NeXT to PC? Date: 30 Jan 1997 20:53:39 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5cr1oj$bfa@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) Cc: jason@primenet.com In <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Jason Wagner wrote: > Greets. > > Being a PC nerd for 16 years I am unsure what to expect from the 68040 CPU > series. Can anyone compare the various flavors of NeXT machines to their > Intel PC equivalents? I am very interested in picking up a small used > NeXT machine to tinker around with, and I'd like to know what kinds of > performance levels I can expect. > > Thanks! > Jason > jason@primenet.com > I did some benchmarks, and a 486 DX2 66 MHz PC was 2.5 times faster than the NeXT 25 MHz 68040 for basic CPU speed. Graphics performance is comparable. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!tor-nn1.netcom.ca!news From: herbert.lee@compu-tel.to.org Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:43:58 GMT Organization: Netcom Canada Lines: 30 Message-ID: <32f1aff2.4593364@nntp.netcruiser> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> NNTP-Posting-Host: trt-on2-22.netcom.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jan 31 3:43:19 AM EST 1997 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2347 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:129766 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85034 comp.sys.next.hardware:26929 "Jack" wrote: >folks, >need some help, please! >I have a P60, 16MB Ram, some 1MB graphics-card,quad CD-Rom >I want to upgrade, so should I > >buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? >more Ram ? >better graphics-card ? >better CD-Rom ? > >or buy some P150-Chip because it's not worth all the money ? haha, almost everyone said this is the best CPU u could ever get. IF u run at 150 is won't do u any go, However, just get yourself an ASUS MB and u can clock it to 2.5X75 which is running as fast as a P200. If u want want to buy an expensive ASUS, then get yourself an cheap VX brd and u still able to overclock it to 166. (As long as it is not remark) > >Please help, I don't know what to do! > >Thanks in advance! > > Jack > >P.S.:I'm from Austria; everything is more expensive ( I think so) and comes >to our strores later (MMX is here since about a week) > #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.glink.net.hk!uunet!in3.uu.net!194.163.252.65!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives & Modems on NeXTstation Message-ID: <1997Jan30.095543.734@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: isaac@pobox.com Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:55:43 GMT Lines: 10 In Isaac wrote: > are $49). OmniWeb is more Netscape-compatible, and is free for individual Just note that the Nextstep-Browsers are *NOT* Java-capable, also no JavaScript. Also they are very slow on NeXT hardware (Netsurfer is actually not usable because of this). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.cuny.edu!news From: Ann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:04:12 -0800 Lines: 29 Message-ID: <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.74.20.122 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Hi Chris. I'm told that industry standard 72 pinn simms will work in a NEXT., and this was told to me by a vendor who I guessed would have something to loose by telling me this in favor of selling me his own brand of memory specifically designed for NEXT. Mac memors is not truly industry standard so I don't know about that. You can get some good info on ram for a nest by visiting RMP's homepage. I think tht it is RMP.com (you know the rest) If you don;t fing it, just e-mail me and I'll provide you with the tel # as I am at school reading this group now and don't have it with me here. Peace. Chris Stuart wrote: > > I'd like to install some more memory into an 8M cube. Can I use plain > Macintosh chips or is there something else recommended? > > Also, after briefly opening the cube I didn't see an obvious place to > install the chips. Do you have to remove the power supply or anything? > > Thanks very much. > -- > **************************** > Chris Stuart > Systems Administrator > University of California, San Diego > Center for Research in Computing and the Arts > cstuart@ucsd.edu > (619) 534-4383 > **************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.cuny.edu!news From: Ann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: expansion slots! Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:07:42 -0800 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.74.20.122 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) I'd like to know what type of expansion slots does a Nextstation have. Is there an industry standard ISA, EISA or MCA slot in this machine. My reason for the enquiry is that I want to puirchase one of these machines and network it so I'd have to be aware of the type of network card to purchase or better yet, if one that I have will work. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!129.35.248.10!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!usenet From: Kari Karhi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" on a PC and headless booting? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:54:30 +0000 Organization: PSW Technologies Lines: 24 Message-ID: <32F215B6.41C6@pswtech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fsocks1.server.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; AIX 1) Hi, I need to put together another PC at home and am thinking to use my old Color NextStation's 21" monitor with it. Can I use the 21" monitor with a PC graphics card (like the Millennium) and where can I get the video cable (VGA to three BNCs)? Also, what kind of resolutions and refresh rates does the monitor have? Also, I would still be interested in keeping the Color NextStation. I remember long ago people talking about booting a Color Station headless, ie. using the serial port as the console. Can I do it and what do I need to do to enable it? I was thinking of leaving the system as a print server. If I did, does anyone have any experience using a NeXT as a print server to a couple of NTs? Cheers, Kari ======================================== Kari Karhi PSW Technologies kari@pswtech.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: expansion slots! Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:28:00 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk Lines: 15 In article <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> Ann writes: > I'd like to know what type of expansion slots does a Nextstation have. > Is there an industry standard ISA, EISA or MCA slot in this machine. No. There's no expansion available. > My reason for the enquiry is that I want to puirchase one of these > machines and network it so I'd have to be aware of the type of network > card to purchase or better yet, if one that I have will work. The reason there are none is that it already has 10baseT and thin ether, SCSI, DSP audio, and video as good as many PC's. What would you want to add? $an #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Integrated Wellness Systems" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Newbie Help Date: 31 Jan 1997 19:46:45 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 28 Message-ID: <01bc0faf$a12ff760$23cdb7c7@byrnejbb> NNTP-Posting-Host: bal-md1-03.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jan 31 1:46:45 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 **Newbie Alert** Please note that I DID read the peanuts FAQ before asking the following. So, if the info was there, it just didn't stick. I'm going to attempt adding a SCSI drive to my 'new' NeXT Station. I understand that I can accomplish this by: 1) Obtaining a SCSI to SCSI ribbon cable and a power connector and installing the extra drive inside the slab case. What about termination in this situation? 2) Attaching the drive external but I need a special SCSI II connector on the cable. Where can I get such a cable? After I attach the drive, which is being removed from a Mac, how do I format it? From the Workspace Manager. That sounds too easy but here's hoping. I also have available a Zip Drive and a CD-ROM, also from a Mac. I understand that all I need to do is add these to the SCSI chain and they will 'just work'. Regarding the Zip--the media is Mac formatted. Do I simply reformat via the workspace manager. Thank you in advance! John Byrne New to NeXT World and proud of it! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!woodlawn.uchicago.edu!jbleffer From: "Jonathan B. Leffert" Subject: hplj 4L X-Nntp-Posting-Host: woodlawn.uchicago.edu Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Sender: jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:59:08 GMT Lines: 10 Is it possible to print a dvi file to an HP LaserJet 4L (no postscript support) under OpenStep 4.1 for Intel? jon Jonathan B. Leffert "Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns, just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." -- Guns n' Roses, Breakdown finger -l jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:54:26 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> On 29 Jan 1997, Jon Haveman wrote: > "Jack" writes > > buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? > > Please excuse my ignorance, but I've been wondering for a while now just > what this MMX thing is..... A Wintel ploy to relieve you of more disposable income to gain "multimedia enhancements" of highly questionable worth. Or, more technically, a new bunch of DSP-ish matrix operations included on new MMX Pentiums and PPros. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Newbie Help Date: 1 Feb 1997 04:02:15 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5cuf87$rjq@news.next.com> References: <01bc0faf$a12ff760$23cdb7c7@byrnejbb> Reply-To: mark_bessey@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bananajr.next.com "Integrated Wellness Systems" writes > I'm going to attempt adding a SCSI drive to my 'new' NeXT Station. I > understand that I can accomplish this by: > > 1) Obtaining a SCSI to SCSI ribbon cable and a power connector and > installing the extra drive inside the slab case. What about termination > in this situation? Don't do this. There's no room inside the slab for two drives, and there's no mounting hardware, either. > 2) Attaching the drive external but I need a special SCSI II connector > on the cable. Where can I get such a cable? It's a standard cable. Any computer store ought to have one. > After I attach the drive, which is being removed from a Mac, how do I > format it? From the Workspace Manager. That sounds too easy but here's > hoping. Select the disk's icon, then Disk->Initialize from Workspace's menu. It just doesn't get any easier. > I also have available a Zip Drive and a CD-ROM, also from a Mac. I > understand that all I need to do is add these to the SCSI chain and they > will 'just work'. Regarding the Zip--the media is Mac formatted. Do I > simply reformat via the workspace manager. Yep. Just like a hard drive. Hope this helps, -Mark -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 08:36:13 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 157 Message-ID: <5cuv9t$eat@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> References: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> Reply-To: far@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: whx-ca3-01.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Feb 01 2:36:13 AM CST 1997 In article <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> John Kheit writes: >As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes >when initializing a 230Mb disk. > >Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, >would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can >make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info >(I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... > John, I've been using the following for the past few months: # # Specify higher nc and lower ns if you want more inodes # # ss = media block size # media cap = nc * nt * ns * ss # fa (fragmentation) = s/b >= ss # sa = (partition size or media cap) / ss # # # Fujitsu 640mb 3.5" MO SCSI M2513A-2048 # # M2513A-640|M2513A-2048|M2513A-640-2048|FUJITSU M2513A-640-2048:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#808:nt#2:ns#192:ss#2048:rm#3600:\ :fp#80:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=mach_kernel:z0#16:z1#48:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#310272:ba#8192:fa#2048:ca#16:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: # # Fujitsu 230mb 3.5" MO SCSI M2513A-512 # # M2513A-230|M2513A-512|FUJITSU M2513A 1000 -512|FUJITSU M2513A 1000-512:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#348:nt#2:ns#320:ss#512:rm#3600:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1#192:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#223002:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: >Also, with removable devices that read multiple capacities... The >DynaMO reads and writes 128, and 230Mb disks...and the new DynaMO >deals with 128, 230, 540, and 640Mb capacities... Is it possible >to make a disktab that will deal properly with the correct capacity >disk? If not this might be something that needs to be extended... >-- >Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... snip I was not able to get this to work and so I wrote the following quick hack: //***************************************************************************** // // newfs cover -- newfsCover.c // // When placed at /usr/etc/newfs this program will cover for and // subsequently call newfs.org (the system supplied original). // This is just a quick hack to allow Workspace manager to properly // initialize a Fujitsu M2513A 3.5" 640mb MO drive. The system // supplied newfs miscalculates its values with this drive. // // This hack was necessary because I was unable to get BuildDisk // or the Workspace initializer to take my disktab otherwise. // // Using: // // 1. cc newfsCover.c -o newfs // 2. mv /usr/etc/newfs /usr/etc/newfs.org // 3. copy this newfs cover to /usr/etc/newfs. // 4. Append the M2513A disktab entries to your /etc/disktab // // Bugs: // // The M2513A is capable of using a variety of media, this program // should be extended to support these by looking at the label info // written down by disk. Currently, this program only supports two // media types: 640-2048 and 230-512 which must be defined in disktab. // // When using different block size media the driver can get confused, // it may be possible to reset it using this thing. // // It might be better if this program covered for disk instead of newfs // // This code is hereby placed into the public domain. Use at your own risk. // // Felipe A. Rodriguez 9/23/96 far@ix.netcom.com // //***************************************************************************** #import #import #import #import #import #import #import #import main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int fd; static struct drive_info di; char Path[MAXPATHLEN + 1]; strncpy(Path, *argv++, MAXPATHLEN); strncat(Path, ".org ", MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); while(*argv) { if(**argv == '/') { fd = open(*argv, O_RDWR, 0); ioctl(fd, DKIOCINFO, &di); // get info about device printf("drive type name -- %s\n", di.di_name); close(fd); } strncat(Path, *argv++, MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); strncat(Path, " ", MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); } // if an M2513A and disktab not already specified on commLine if(strstr(di.di_name, "M2513A") && (!strstr(Path, "M2513A"))) { printf("Fujitsu M2513A drive, media block size of %d\n", di.di_devblklen); if(di.di_devblklen == 512) strncat(Path, "M2513A-230", MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); else strncat(Path, "M2513A-640", MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); } printf("%s", Path); printf("%s", "\n"); system(Path); // call the real newfs exit(0); } -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news From: Nick Poolos Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what is the slot by the Simm banks? Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 03:52:50 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: s-98-185.resnet.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i486) What is the slot that looks kinda like a 72 pin simm slot inside of a 1991 era slab? I just "inherited" this box and am in the process of setting it back up. It came stripped of drives and mem. -- Nick Poolos poolos.1@osu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!nntp.uio.no!in1.nntp.cais.net!news.smart.net!smarty.smart.net!not-for-mail From: nickle@smart.net (Mike Nickle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac Mouse Date: 1 Feb 1997 03:41:12 GMT Organization: Smartnet Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5cue0o$461$1@news.smart.net> References: <32EF626F.1F61@gcomm.com> <5cp1ts$1ld0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: smarty.smart.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 960817] In comp.sys.next.hardware Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: : Can a non-ADB mouse be connected to the ADB system? : Rudy. Only if the system has a non-ADB monitor and keyboard. That's how my monoturbo is set up. I don't like the adb keyboard. -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael D. Nickle || Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? nickle@smart.net (NeXTmail ok)||(But who will guard the guards themselves) http://www.smart.net/~nickle || Satires, VI, line 347 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: expansion slots! Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:44:36 GMT References: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 22 In article <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com>, Ann wrote: >I'd like to know what type of expansion slots does a Nextstation have. NeXTstations don't have any slots. >Is there an industry standard ISA, EISA or MCA slot in this machine. Cubes have NeXTbus slots, which are a sort-of mutant NuBus. >My reason for the enquiry is that I want to puirchase one of these >machines and network it so I'd have to be aware of the type of network >card to purchase or better yet, if one that I have will work. No need. All NeXT black hardware comes with Ethernet built in. '030 cubes can only do 10 Base-2, while all '040 machines can handle 10 Base-2 or 10 Base-T. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 05:59:32 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26943 comp.sys.next.software:27803 As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes when initializing a 230Mb disk. Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info (I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... Also, with removable devices that read multiple capacities... The DynaMO reads and writes 128, and 230Mb disks...and the new DynaMO deals with 128, 230, 540, and 640Mb capacities... Is it possible to make a disktab that will deal properly with the correct capacity disk? If not this might be something that needs to be extended... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 1 Feb 1997 10:47:21 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 91 Message-ID: <19970201104701.FAA10668@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5cq4gc$on0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Hi, Rudy. The 21" monitor was alway made by Hitachi with a Toshiba shadowmask picture tube (CRT). Most (large) Trinitron CRT's have the 2 lines across it's face. These are to support all the vertical wires in the CRT, otherwise it would be very easy for them to vibrate (just tap on the side of a trinitron monitor when it's on) and cause havoc with the display. Some people prefer the Trinitron look because's it's brighter but the finepitch shadowmask CRTs can suffer from moire pattern and a lack of brightness which seem to bother alot of people. When I was at NeXT, there was alot of complains about the Fimi monitor which NeXT solve by going to Sony for it's final 17" color monitor. I was at NeXT hardware service from start to finish so I still remember some of this stuff. Jquan 8-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:34:20 GMT Message-ID: <5cq4gc$on0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In Drs G. C. Th. Wierda wrote: > Christian Neuss wrote: > >"Mitchell Allen" wrote: > >>Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony > > IIYama manufactures 'Diamondtron' monitors, which are Trinitron-clones. > > >>manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set > >>the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way > >>down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint > >>black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of > >>a trinitron. > > BTW FIMI = Philips (made in Italy). I don't know what tube (CRT) they use. > > Does anybody have the schematics of the FIMI yet? > > Sorry for the previous empty post :-))) After reading all the comments about the Trinitron monitors I wonder: Why do people prefer it over the FIMI? We bought a monitor for an Intel based machine and I was about to return the monitor we got because I hated the two lines in the first and third quarter of the height of the screen. I thought the monitor was defective and I still cannot believe that the lines are a FEATURE of the monitor! Also, I can see all the fine rows of pixels (it is 21" monitor) on the screen. They are physical lines, not caused by the resolution I use. And the sucker flickers like hell (while looking at the screen only using the peripheral vision of the eyes. Yes, we got a good video card, that shouldn't be the reason. On the other hand, I am happy with all our NeXT monitors by FIMI (21 and 17"). You don't see any pixels, any physical lines and the picture is extremely stable. It looks more like a photograph than a computer screen. The only question would be the radiation, I guess. But the picture is superb. Good luck. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:27:26 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <32F0F501.136F@benatong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: <32F0F501.136F@benatong.com> On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Charles Bennett wrote: > I'm looking at replacing my old epson progression. > (It's a refugee from the first NeXT->Intel porting camp :-) ) > > I found a p166+ (cyrix) on this motherboard for $359.00 > and was wondering if it would work. I'm not sure about NEXTSTEP on a Cyrix chip. As I hear, it will boot and run, but some programs (notably OmniWeb) will simply crash the machine dead in its tracks. Much as I normally root for Intel's competitors, I hesitate to recommend using anything but an Intel chip for NEXTSTEP. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!serv.hinet.net!news-peer.nctu.edu.tw!news.nctu.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!not-for-mail From: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to find NeXTbus information? Date: 1 Feb 1997 15:16:24 GMT Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5cvmo8$nin@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: jjhuang@server.cm.nctu.edu.tw X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Hello,all, I want to obtain NeXTBus technical information, so as to design a NeXTBus interface card. What information and how to obtain these information? Is there any book about NeXTBus? And what is the speed of NeXTBus? Thanks in advance. -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#========================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news2.ixa.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.253.4.5!news.bridge.net!news From: german gobel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:37:59 +0000 Organization: none Lines: 31 Message-ID: <32F27447.7716@bridge.net> References: <5ciujn$sn@mpaque.mpaque> Reply-To: nextjet@bellsouth.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-mia1-52.bridge.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mike Paquette wrote: > > In article dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca > (David Evans) writes: > > And if someone tries > > to talk to you about NeXT's JPEG compression daughterboard, listen > > politely, but remember that it doesn't work (well, it works for about > > 60ms or so, apparently). > > And of course, bear in mind that (for some reason :-)) it was never a > shipping product. > > Really carefully crafted code using the NXLiveVideoView can grab maybe > 4-5 frames per second. > > For digitizing video, I've found that the best method (without > resorting to high end racks of Avid gear) is to get a really clean > transfer to a laserdisc, and then digitize still frames from a good > disc player's output. This lets you integrate the video frames over > time and strip out a good portion of video noise, and use really high > quality non-realtime filters to maximize quality. > > Good transfers will cost maybe 300-400 dollars for a single side CAV > disk. > -- > I don't speak for my employer, whoevere it is, and they don't speak for me. > mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK > mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK Could you maybe suggest a specific laserdisk model that would do this? thanks german gobel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: 1 Feb 1997 18:15:49 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 51 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: scz-ca7-14.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Feb 01 12:15:49 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Ann wrote: > I'm told that industry standard 72 pinn simms will work in a > NEXT., and this was told to me by a vendor who I guessed would have > something to loose by telling me this in favor of selling me his own > brand of memory specifically designed for NEXT. This isn't strictly true. Some NeXTstations use 72-pin SIMMs. All 25 MHz. NeXTcubes use "industry-standard" 30-pin SIMMs. Memory specifically designed for NeXT machines isn't required and I've never heard of any. Low-profile SIMMs are needed in Cubes for physical clearance reasons. The memory speed must be no slower than 100 ns, but faster speeds don't increase system performance. I have purchased several lots of low-profile, 30-pin, 4x8 SIMMs from the Chip Merchant (http://www.thechipmerchant.com). > Mac memors is not truly industry standard so I don't know about that. Not sure what's meant by this statement. The memory used by Cubes is the same as that used by some Macs. > You can get some good info on ram for a nest by visiting RMP's homepage. > I think tht it is RMP.com (you know the rest). If this page states that all NeXTs use 72-pin SIMMs, then the info isn't good. > > Chris Stuart wrote: > > > > I'd like to install some more memory into an 8M cube. Can I use plain > > Macintosh chips or is there something else recommended? > > > > Also, after briefly opening the cube I didn't see an obvious place to > > install the chips. Do you have to remove the power supply or anything? > > > > Thanks very much. > > -- > > **************************** > > Chris Stuart > > Systems Administrator > > University of California, San Diego > > Center for Research in Computing and the Arts > > cstuart@ucsd.edu > > (619) 534-4383 > > **************************** -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!pacbell.com!ames!purdue!oitnews.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!sd3n+ From: Scott A Douglass Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: LaserWriter II NTX Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 13:03:47 -0500 Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable - The printer is known to be fully functional - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional I'm particularly suspicious of the DIP switch setting on the NTX... Scott Douglass _____________________________________________________________________ Department of Psychology, Carnegie Mellon University Office: (412) 268-1414, E-mail: sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu (NeXTMail OK) PGP Public Key: finger email address #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!news.grolier.fr!usenet From: Eric Levenez Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to find NeXTbus information? Date: 1 Feb 1997 19:49:44 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr> References: <5cvmo8$nin@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-196-209.neuilly.club-internet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) wrote: > I want to obtain NeXTBus technical information, so as to design >a NeXTBus interface card. What information and how to obtain these >information? Is there any book about NeXTBus? 1) "NextBus Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, ref 993.00. 2) "NextBus Interface Chip Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, ref 1243.00. > And what is the speed of NeXTBus? Thanks in advance. Speed : 12.5 MHz, burst at 25 MHz (NuBus is 10 MHz). Peak data transfer rate at 100 Mbytes/second (NuBus is 40 MB/s). Techno : NextBus is CMOS, NuBus is TTL. NeXT "offers" a single-chip NextBus Interface Chip (NBIC) a 144-pin CMOS device to do all the dirty jobs. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 -------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: partitioning a 4gb scsi drive Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 05:22:24 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 9 Message-ID: <32F3A5F1.6171@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.177 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Check out following web-site: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1533.htmld/1533.html YoungHoon Kil (Computer Graphics Freelancer) ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!132.175.109.6!news.sandia.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 10:57:04 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5cv7i0$3mu@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26952 comp.sys.next.software:27812 In <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: > As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes > when initializing a 230Mb disk. > > Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, > would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can > make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info > (I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... > Here is one that someone handed to me: FUJITSU M2512A 1314|FUJITSU M2512A 1314Vˆ|FUJITSU M2512A 1314V|FUJITSU M2512A 1314V:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#80:nt#2:ns#1394:ss#1024:rm#3600:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:rw=b:\ :pa#0:sa#223002:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#2:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:aa:ta=4.3BSD: Now, you'll notice all those attempts at the name. I never could get NEXTSTEP 3.3/Intel to automatically recognize the disk. Also, I had hideous problems with SCSI ioctrl errors when I tried using a non-default disktab entry. They would appear erratically and caused `media errors' to appear on my hard disks. I thought they were due to the disktab entry, but discovered finally that it was because I needed to disable synchronous negotiation to the MO on my Adaptec 2940 card. I haven't had the problem recur since then. So in summary, this disktab might work just fine. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!news From: "P.B.& A.C." 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Date: 1 Feb 1997 14:30:51 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5cvk2r$4mn@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Cc: poolos.1@osu.edu In <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> Nick Poolos wrote: > What is the slot that looks kinda like a 72 pin simm slot inside of a > 1991 era slab? > > I just "inherited" this box and am in the process of setting it back > up. It came stripped of drives and mem. > > That's for extra RAM for the digital signal processor. I can't recall the rare circumstance where you would want to fill it. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Houman" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS3.3 PC CD-ROM Installation Problems Date: 1 Feb 1997 23:49:48 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 19 Message-ID: <01bc109b$03abd760$2c02b8cd@houmanja> NNTP-Posting-Host: irv-ca13-12.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Feb 01 5:49:48 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Hi all, I've just upgraded my crusty 'ol 486 to a nice new sleek Pentium. The only problem is that I can't load NeXT STEP 3.3 Academic on my wonderful machine. I'm using the exact same CD-ROM drive, a Sanyo 4X CRD-254SH. But I've replaced the Adaptec 1542B SCSI adapter with an Adaptec 2940 PCI adapter. It is not an ultra-wide model. When I try to load NS, it properly detects all of my SCSI devices, but the CD-ROM fails to initialize. It just times out and the kernel shuts down. I'm really bumbed since I'd love to be able to run NS on my new system and I'm starting to get bored with Win95. ;-) Any ideas about fixing this problem are appreciated. L8TR, Houman PS: I've tried both driver versions 3.2 and 3.7 from NeXT answers. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!nick From: nick@S-98-185.resnet.ohio-state.edu (RHS Linux User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to clear ROM password? Date: 1 Feb 1997 20:28:55 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: s-98-185.resnet.ohio-state.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] How does on clear the password set in ROM on a slab? I am trying to mount the NS cd to installlit on to a ne drive and I get a password prompt. Is there a way to claer this, or bypass it? sorry if this is in the manuals but i don't have acess to them at the moment. if you reply by mail send to: kelm.3@osu.edu instead of this account thanks. -- Nick Poolos poolos.1@osu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.113.159.49!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!news.cmc.net!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: news@cmc.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce,edm.forsale,eug.forsale,eunet.misc,fido.ger.hardware,fido.ger.musik,fido.wa_4sale,fido7.game,fj.announce,fj.fleamarket.misc,fj.forsale,fj.forsale.comp,fj.forsale.books,fj.net.misc,fl.general,fl.forsale Subject: cmsg cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Date: 2 Feb 1997 03:10:48 GMT Control: cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Message-ID: Sender: "P.B.& A.C." X-Cancelled-By: news@cmc.net Approved: news@cmc.net X-No-Archive: Yes Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by news@cmc.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!in1.nntp.cais.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 1 Feb 1997 21:57:22 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5d0e82$229@news.us.net> References: <32F0F501.136F@benatong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Isaac wrote: >On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Charles Bennett wrote: > >> I'm looking at replacing my old epson progression. >> (It's a refugee from the first NeXT->Intel porting camp :-) ) >> >> I found a p166+ (cyrix) on this motherboard for $359.00 >> and was wondering if it would work. > >I'm not sure about NEXTSTEP on a Cyrix chip. As I hear, it will boot and >run, but some programs (notably OmniWeb) will simply crash the machine >dead in its tracks. Much as I normally root for Intel's competitors, I >hesitate to recommend using anything but an Intel chip for NEXTSTEP. This is the first time I've heard any problems with compatibility. Matter of fact, I thought I had seen on the Cyrix web site explicit support for NEXTSTEP. Can you confirm the problems you state above? Also, what rev and clock speed? There was that whole L1 write-back cache bug with Cyrix CPUs < v2.7; could your statements above be attributed to that? Finally, has anyone used an AMD K5 (100 or 133) for OPENSTEP? -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!irix1.noc.fh-aachen.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news1.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What ppp protocal is required to run TTYDSP on NeXTSTEP OS Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:19:06 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5cbjhq$m62@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3-barrnet.slip.net Hi, I'm about to buy a TTYDSP modem to connect to an ISDN line. The modem is said to support MorningStar ppp, Transys PNI and tip and kermit. But freeware implmentations. Will this modem be satisfactory for connecting the cube to the IDSN? Will I need to aquire any NS specific software? I currently have NeXTSTEP 2.0 but plan to upgrade. What OS should I upgrade too? Is there anyone out there that insists I should give up my ethernet connection and go with Bit Surfer or Assend? Thanks, Emmett Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!usenet From: cybobob@mindspring.com (Nicholas Sharpe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dimension Board, does it capture video Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 06:14:25 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> Reply-To: cybobob@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip233.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net X-Server-Date: 2 Feb 1997 06:18:50 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I was looking at www.orb.com and under a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube, it says "video in/out". Does this mean I can watch tv and capture video from a vcr? If so, what format can I save the movie as? Thanks a lot. Nick Sharpe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!krtp From: king@tlogic.com (King Rhoton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 02:17:14 GMT Organization: Technologic, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> Reply-To: king@tlogic.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-53-47.dialup.mindspring.com X-Server-Date: 2 Feb 1997 02:17:10 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 I'm buying a NeXT station color turbo, and I'm confused as to what version of NeXT/OPENstep I should be running on it (I'll have to buy media and a hard drive for it). I've found www.next.com to be useless in answering these questions. 1) Is OPENstep 4.1 for Mach a full O/S and does it run on Motorola hardware? 2) Why is everyone here interested in getting NeXTstep 3.3 if it's, what, 3 years old? 3) Are there any performance reasons why I would want to choose one revision over another keeping in mind the hardware I'll have? Thanks, King Rhoton king@tlogic.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.uwa.edu.au!not-for-mail From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 2 Feb 1997 07:10:12 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <5d0e82$229@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au In article <5d0e82$229@news.us.net> bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) writes: >This is the first time I've heard any problems with compatibility. >Matter of fact, I thought I had seen on the Cyrix web site explicit >support for NEXTSTEP. Can you confirm the problems you state above? >Also, what rev and clock speed? There was that whole L1 write-back cache >bug with Cyrix CPUs < v2.7; could your statements above be attributed >to that? > I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. It will hang the kernel and the problem has been reported to both IBM and Cyrix, with pathetically little response from them. I had a 6x86 with repeatable kernel hangs that I solved by replacing with an Intel CPU. At least three others have confirmed the same problem. NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. >Finally, has anyone used an AMD K5 (100 or 133) for OPENSTEP? > No, sorry. -- Leigh Smith Computer Science, University of Western Australia +61-9-380-1945 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "In a world where success means gaining time, thinking has a single but irredeemable fault: it's a waste of time" - J-F. Lyotard #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!visi.com!not-for-mail From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dimension Board, does it capture video Date: 2 Feb 1997 09:03:15 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5d1l8j$sm0@darla.visi.com> References: <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: object.metaverse.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Nicholas Sharpe (cybobob@mindspring.com) wrote: : I was looking at www.orb.com and under a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube, it : says "video in/out". Does this mean I can watch tv and capture video : from a vcr? If so, what format can I save the movie as? No live capture. You can, however, do "frame grabbing" at a peak rate of about 5-7fps (your mileage may vary), have a live video window on your desktop (which is great for watching TV), do cool video/bitmap layering stuff. It's a fun toy. Video out, btw, is also pretty useful for some things. Also, NS is beautiful in 24bit color. :) -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: expansion slots! Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:57:07 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: Ann In-Reply-To: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Ann wrote: > I'd like to know what type of expansion slots does a Nextstation have. > Is there an industry standard ISA, EISA or MCA slot in this machine. > My reason for the enquiry is that I want to puirchase one of these > machines and network it so I'd have to be aware of the type of network > card to purchase or better yet, if one that I have will work. All NeXT hardware has ethernet built-in. All NeXTstations (and NeXTcubes) have both 10baseT and 10base2 ports, and the hardware autodetects which is in use. (You can't use both at the same time.) Other than SIMM slots, there are no internal expansion slots on a station. All the good stuff is standard (ethernet, audio, video, SCSI, etc.). The original 68030 NeXT computer only had 10base2 ethernet, but you were asking about a NeXTstation, so you have nothing to worry about. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: aeurei@vdcfasd.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD Recordable Media for Sale at Good Prices Date: 2 Feb 1997 13:19:03 GMT Organization: Copy Cat Lines: 53 Message-ID: <5d2487$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.200.39 We have the following CD-R media for sale. 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Cordially, The Copy Cat Shop 213-650-1680 213-650-9110 Fax #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5d2487$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: 2 Feb 1997 13:24:09 GMT Control: cancel <5d2487$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Sender: aeurei@vdcfasd.com X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 2 Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: CDRMEDIA Original Subject: CD Recordable Media for Sale at Good Prices #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk!news From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:49:24 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1997Feb2.154924.1458@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <5ciujn$sn@mpaque.mpaque> <32F27447.7716@bridge.net> X-Mail2News-User: news@seer.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: mailhost.plsys.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Lines: 24 In <32F27447.7716@bridge.net> german gobel wrote: > Mike Paquette wrote: > > For digitizing video, I've found that the best method (without > > resorting to high end racks of Avid gear) is to get a really clean > > transfer to a laserdisc, and then digitize still frames from a good > > disc player's output. This lets you integrate the video frames over > > time and strip out a good portion of video noise, and use really high > > quality non-realtime filters to maximize quality. > > > > Good transfers will cost maybe 300-400 dollars for a single side CAV > > disk. > > Could you maybe suggest a specific laserdisk model that would do this? > thanks german gobel I think just about all models will support freeze frame on CAV disks. Mike is referring to the cost of a transfer; i.e. cutting a one off custom disk. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!dallasI5.dallas.net!news From: Ronald Pomeroy Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dimension Board, does it capture video Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 12:10:09 -0600 Organization: D'A Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32F4D881.68FD@dallas.net> References: <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> <5d1l8j$sm0@darla.visi.com> Reply-To: rpomeroy@dallas.net NNTP-Posting-Host: aux45.plano.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) David Young wrote: > > Nicholas Sharpe (cybobob@mindspring.com) wrote: > : I was looking at www.orb.com and under a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube, it [munch] > Also, NS is beautiful in 24bit color. :) > Especially when you add 8 bits of transparency information! Ron Pomeroy rpomeroy@dallas.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.unisys.com.br!news.embratel.net.br!srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br!sysadm@nutecnet.com.br From: pubah@rio.nutecnet.com.br (Carlos Andre "Pubah") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Black_Hardware_Cellebration: Painting White Hardware ------> Is It Possible? Date: 2 Feb 1997 17:35:35 GMT Organization: The Pubah Foundation Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5d2j97$nq7@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.240.31.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (beta 2) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:24948 comp.sys.next.hardware:26969 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16262 I have a dream. I wanna paint my White Hardware with NeXT classical black hardware color. Quesntions: 1. Is It Possible? 2. If I Can... 2.1. How To with my tower case? 2.2 How to with my keybord? 2.3 How to with my monitor? I would apreciate comments. thanks a lot ---------------------------------------------------------------------- carlos andre "pubah" - the pubah foundation - rio de janeiro, brazil pubah@rio.nutecnet.com.br - rio 2004, candidate city ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.ti.com!sislnews.csc.ti.com!pbbmac.csc.ti.com!user From: BABAK@TI.COM (Babak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Subject: Re: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES! Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 12:13:12 -0600 Organization: TI Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pbbmac.csc.ti.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.amiga.marketplace:79151 comp.sys.amiga.misc:123193 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123102 comp.sys.amiga.games:95500 comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc:19735 comp.sys.next.hardware:26970 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16263 comp.sys.next.misc:24949 comp.sys.next.software:27828 comp.sys.psion.marketplace:1306 comp.sys.psion.misc:6889 de.markt.misc:43733 de.rec.games.computer:19342 In article <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com>, "P.B.& A.C." wrote: > -- > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > | | > * * > | Looking for some great CD's, | > * videos, books, computer software and more * > | at wholesale prices? Seeing is believing! | > * Check us out! * > | | > * * > | http://www.tidepool.com/becker | > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* you call these a WHOLE SALE price?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!arh0269.urh.uiuc.edu!andrew From: Andrew Kaczorek Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to clear ROM password? Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:36:48 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: arh0269.urh.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> If you haven't been told already, you just need to take the thing apart, pull out the battery (it's a cylindrical battery about 1.5" long somewhere toward the front of the board) and wait somewhere around 20 minutes. Then, put it back in. The "hardware password" will be cleared. I had a lot of trouble originally getting my NeXT up---so if you have any other questions feel free..... Andrew Kaczorek On 1 Feb 1997, RHS Linux User wrote: > How does on clear the password set in ROM on a slab? > > I am trying to mount the NS cd to installlit on to a ne drive and I get a password prompt. Is there a way to claer this, or bypass it? > > sorry if this is in the manuals but i don't have acess to them at the moment. > > if you reply by mail send to: > kelm.3@osu.edu > > instead of this account thanks. > > -- > Nick Poolos > poolos.1@osu.edu > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Black_Hardware_Cellebration: Painting White Hardware ------> Is It Possible? Date: 2 Feb 97 15:03:32 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <5d2j97$nq7@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.52.185 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.marketplace Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:24950 comp.sys.next.hardware:26972 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16265 On Sun, Feb 2, 1997 12:35 PM, Carlos Andre "Pubah" wrote: > I have a dream. > > I wanna paint my White Hardware with NeXT classical > black hardware color. > > Quesntions: > > 1. Is It Possible? > > 2. If I Can... > > 2.1. How To with my tower case? > 2.2 How to with my keybord? > 2.3 How to with my monitor? > > I would apreciate comments. > > thanks a lot Check out the NeXT faq. I think under topic #9 there is a description of the proper paint to use. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Subject: cmsg cancel <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Date: 2 Feb 1997 21:11:02 GMT Control: cancel <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Message-ID: Sender: "P.B.& A.C." 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Subject: cmsg cancel <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Control: cancel <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 13:15:23 -0800 Organization: West Coast Online's News Server - Not responsible for content Lines: 1 Message-ID: <32F503EB.17F9@tidepool.com> References: <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.54.58.150 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!msunews!news From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 2 Feb 1997 22:52:16 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 163 Message-ID: <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.92.18.243 X-MSUnetID: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: tgritton@sprynet.com Hello Isaac, Dave, Mitch, Liuyi, Chris, Sean, Terry, and all else in this thread, As having been a long time NON-ADB(NADB) user who's just switched AND happens to have ADB and NADB equipment lying about.. I'll try to put up some images (I'm desperate for a decent Hi-8 camera BTW..) with some info on the NADB switch that one can do on most machines.. When I first saw a ADB setup I thought 'WAY COOL'. The ADB really looks neat. I like the smaller keyboard, and it feels a little stiffer than my NADB which I tend to prefer. At first glance the command key at the bottom I thought would be cool. Now after using the keyboard for about 1-2 months I can say that it takes a lot of getting used to since being below the space bar it's easy to accidentally hit it while typing.. I am getting much better with it and I am confidant I'll like the ADB over the NADB keyboard (I usually sit it in my lap BTW) but it was a transition.. At first sitting I really didn't like the ADB keyboard. Now to the mouse.. I think they look cool too! Almost get a feeling of ears on that mouse. Initially I didn't like the feel of it either, but I definately tought it was an improvement over having black stains on my fingers from degrading rubber (or just the feeling of the stuff). It is definately lighter and I can see why some people would like more heft in the mouse.. In terms of button depressing as Sean asked in <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> > Hey, has anyone had problems with their fingers using the ADB mouse? I have > used the non-ADB as well as the ADB keyboards, I prefere the ADB one. But the > ADB mouse really sucks. I can't use it for long before getting a cramp in the > knuckle. It's definitely not ergonomic. I would have agreed about a month ago,but since then I discovered for myself what Isaac wrote in > Are you depressing the buttons with the tips of your fingers (a la the old > NeXT mouse)? If so, then no wonder you're getting cramps. I believe you're > supposed to sort of drape your hand over the mouse, laying your first two > fingers flat on the buttons. Then just push your fingers down slightly to > click. Light-years ahead of the original NeXT mouse, IMO. And I'm much happier. Now to the more important issues.. What does ADB get you? Well I havn't tried it yet but I would assume at some point I can put Mac ADB keyboard & Mouse on the (perhaps I should to preserve the origionals) machine. I havn't personally done this but Scott Anguish has (see article <5cccrk$o37@news.digifix.com>). It wouldn't suprise me if there were others.. My concerns would be about whether all the command-alt-shft-~ worked and the show stopper command-alt-*. Other than that I would personally agree with Scott that having a unified keyboard across platforms would be pleasing to say the least and there are some really nice ADB ergonomic keyboards/mice out there. I just havn't had the opportunity to try them. And they all take a little getting used to (learning curve) before one can state a definate like/dislike for any of them. Now if I could find a keyboard that felt like the old IBM Selectric's I could really fly (the keys literally snapped back!) Ok. On to other things. In <5cdjei$5je@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Chris Borden asked a question that I've been wondering about. That being whether one could use a ADB tablet on the ADB bus & not the serial port?! I had another question that related to whether I could find a Wacom tablet that I could use between the NeXT and a SGI. There are other questions with tablets too. Like if I use Daydream. Does Daydream support tablets on the ADB bus? I'm rather handy with soldering iron and wire etc. So I could make a different connector if required to make 'a' wacom work between SGI and the NeXT (even if on serial ports) but then what about on the NeXT under Daydream? Unfortunate thing is I don't have a tablet to play around with, and I'm not buying one until I find a cheap enough price (so in case it doesn't work I don't loose too much money) or I'm rather knowledgable/confidant that it will work in 2/3 cases.. I'm rather interested in those Art II Z's BTW:! Lastly. In terms of using NADB stuff on ADB systems. I havn't tried. I do know that on Cubes using a non ADB monitor cable seems to disable the command-alt-shift-~ sequence to get to the ROM monitor. I could check all the different combinations of sound box, cables, mice if anybody cared to know for sure. I don't have a ADB mono system so I can't say for sure about differences between having a ADB vs NADB monitor.. Probably similiar to having ADB vs. NADB sound box.. And the final issue: How does one convert a NADB to ADB and vice versa. Well I'd have to tear apart my sisters 25Mhz ADB station to see, but I believe that in every 040 system you can simply upgrade your EEPROM to v3.3 74 (are there later ones?) and replace components with ADB components. On systems with soundboxes this would mean perhaps a different Slab-Soundbox cable, Soundbox, cable to keyboard, keyboard, and mouse. On those Mono-slabs it would probably mean a different cable from Slab to Monitor, different Monitor, keyboard cable from keyboard to monitor, and mouse. To downgrade you simply do the opposite downgrade the EEPROM with something < v3.3 74 appropriate for your machine (I'm not completely sure what version EEPROMS will work in what machines.. Mike Paquette might know more here) and replace the above ADB components.. Oh. And one last thing I believe you get with ADB but I am not absolutely sure if ADB is required or if this support was included in some NADB systems, but with an ADB system you should be able to boot off CDROM w/o having to use the floppy.. Interestingly most ADB systems have 2.88's. Hopefully in the near future I'll have some time to put up a set of web pages with information like this in it with images the pieces of hardware, a little more information on the EEPROM revisions etc.. Well guess that's about it.. Hope everyone is enjoying the Apple-NeXT ride.. I pray Apple/NeXT get the hint to get a Openstep port to PPC out WAY before 98!! And If I had a wish that would be for Apple/NeXT to put out/support similiar ports for Openstep/Mach on Intel, Sparc, and HP. I know it's a tough proposition, but frankly if Apple/Next would just do a straight port of Openstep/Mach to PPC to demonstrate feasibility and ease of porting (like get a alpha/beta port done and out the door by March, 1, 97 to developers!) it would do much to help both of their beaten images. A miracle can cover a lot of front pages!! (hint, hint) THEN & ONLY THEN upgrade Mach kernel, some of the other drivers, pieces of the OS, etc. perhaps adding in some of the Apple specific API support and then releasing an upgrade for all hardware like June 97. (Mainly to get SMP support in for dual PPC's, and probably better drivers for PPC) The point being that Apple/NeXT has to get something out the door in a hurry on PPC. It would also be a terrible and Insane mistake for Apple/NeXT to or appear to drop support on OpenStep/Mach on Intel. They have a huge market there that is untapped. I hope Apple knows what they've purchased and use it to leverage open their markets into what was previously untouchable territory x86!! Best wishes to everyone. Apple/NeXT are you listening?! Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!news From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 2 Feb 1997 23:01:31 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 65 Message-ID: <5d36cb$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <199701251426.JAA03288@nerc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.92.18.243 X-MSUnetID: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: luomat@nerc.com In <199701251426.JAA03288@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Responding To: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) > Original Date: 25 Jan 1997 04:27:26 GMT > Message-ID: 066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94 - > > [replace "MB" with "Gigabyte" when reading quoted area ;-] > > > I know about the 2 MB limit for harddisks in a NeXT (black in my > > case). But if I buy a 3-4 MB disk and create only a < 2 MB > > partition, would that then work? And what about a disk with two > > partitions of let's say 2 MB? > > is less than (not = to) then it will work. You can have as many <2 > gig partitions as you want > > > > > PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. > > Does it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry. > > "out of the box" may not be the problem, it may be what happens > after it has been working for a little while, and die, as happened > to Scott Anguish on several occasions. You can contact him at > "sanguish@digifix.com" and ask him how he feels about Quantum > drives. > I'll tell you I definately don't like the darn things.. I had a Grand Prix not a fireball. Also in terms of working out of the box on my black hardware I find that any drive greater than 4G (I think I just got 3 partitions on there) was not PNP. In fact on almost every disk greater than 2G I think I had to make a disktab entry and then do a builddisk from disk. Oh. And BTW NeXT! Your installer on 3.3 screws up completely with my MO. Meaning if I install 3.3 on my MO and boot from that to install a clean 3.3 on a HD the installer completely chokes my SCSI bus checking out the first device (the MO of course) and my Pinnacle Sierra ends up spitting out the root disk which at that point hangs my system. Can you say hard shutdown.. A real pain in the arse IMHO. And I don't believe this is broken on any earlier version of NS.. All I can say about disks >2G on black hardware is that for a second disk they are great (with conner 4G right now) as a boot disk I don't like them. A final note also. Perhaps I didn't dig deep enough but daydream would not boot up on a root disk with > 2G partition. And it was a little scary that one can't simply reinstall base pieces of the OS from CDROM (at least for me) on disks > 2G.. But pehaps it was the fact I have 4G disks (slightly bigger than 2 full 2G partitions).. Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!news From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ISDN and NeXT Cube Date: 2 Feb 1997 23:28:53 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5d37vl$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <1997Jan24.102930.612@cmich.slip.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.92.18.243 X-MSUnetID: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com In <1997Jan24.102930.612@cmich.slip.netcom.com> chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com wrote: > Hi: > > I'm running one of those old cube machines and was wondering if anyone has > any experience with the cube and ISDN. I'm looking for some way to > connect to the internet that's faster than a 28.8 baud modem (I use the > SLIP protocol). I don't think the serial port on the next was designed to > handle a modem any faster than this, so I assume ISDN is the way to go. > However, can I use that Ethernet connection on the back of the cube for > this? > > I don't have much experience with internet hardware, so any suggestions > would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > - Chuck Chuck, With black hardware it would be best to get a cheap x86 box with ISDN card (running NT, linux, etc.) and ethernet card drop in a ethernet HUB and your off. My solution is a Pipeline 50 ISDN box with a ethernet HUB . It isn't cheap ($600 +ship for P50, and $120 for HUB) but it works like a champ and takes no cycles from any of my boxes. If your ISP has a Pipeline on the other end you can enable compression. I've seen speeds from 8KB - 30KB/sec typically (mostly in the 14-16KB/sec ranges). Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!iway.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX Date: 3 Feb 1997 01:54:26 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5d3ggi$ena@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: Reply-To: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber35.bordeaux.imaginet.fr In article Scott A Douglass writes: > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > > - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable > - The printer is known to be fully functional > - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional > > I'm particularly suspicious of the DIP switch setting on the NTX... > I've tried very hard to make it work but I never could. There seems to be some problems with /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver when it sends data to the printer. I tryied to patch around the strings :(SYNC %d %d )print statusdict/pagecount 2 copy known {get exec} {pop pop 0} ifelse = ( ESYNC)print%s" and "SYNC %d %d %d ESYNC" prserver without success. I guess that a small patch in the source code would be needed, but unfortunately, source code is not available here. __Pascal Bourguignon__ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: How to find NeXTbus information? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:33:07 GMT References: <5cvmo8$nin@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 28 In article <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr>, Eric Levenez wrote: >jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) wrote: >> I want to obtain NeXTBus technical information, so as to design >>a NeXTBus interface card. What information and how to obtain these >>information? Is there any book about NeXTBus? > >1) "NextBus Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, ref 993.00. >2) "NextBus Interface Chip Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, > ref 1243.00. > And I think both of these are on Peanuts (peanuts.leo.org) in some somewhat obvious place. >NeXT "offers" a single-chip NextBus Interface Chip (NBIC) a 144-pin >CMOS device to do all the dirty jobs. > NeXT had a development board, which was, as I recall, a wire-wrap board with an NBIC, documentation, some software, and so on. The last time I looked for one of these on c.s.n.marketplace about 18 months ago they went for $300 or so. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to clear ROM password? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:18:38 GMT Lines: 21 In article <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> nick@S-98-185.resnet.ohio-state.edu (RHS Linux User) writes: > How does on clear the password set in ROM on a slab? > > I am trying to mount the NS cd to installlit on to a ne drive > and I get a password prompt. Is there a way to claer this, or > bypass it? > > sorry if this is in the manuals but i don't have acess to them > at the moment. > Pull the plug and open the box. Remove the lithium battery for an hour or two (shorting the socket is the quick option but beware of static discharge). Put it in again (right orientation) and then do all steps backwards... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.66.12.35!news-in.iadfw.net!usenet From: liuyi@crystalball.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NADB on ADB [was Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB] Date: 3 Feb 1997 04:33:08 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Lines: 45 Message-ID: <5d3pq4$881@library.airnews.net> References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: liuyi@crystalball.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp17.crystalball.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) In <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> rencsok@channelu.com wrote: > [...LONG combo post with losts of good points truncated...] > Lastly. In terms of using NADB stuff on ADB systems. > I havn't tried. I do know that on Cubes using a non ADB > monitor cable seems to disable the command-alt-shift-~ > sequence to get to the ROM monitor. I could check all > the different combinations of sound box, cables, mice > if anybody cared to know for sure. I don't have a ADB > mono system so I can't say for sure about differences > between having a ADB vs NADB monitor.. Probably > similiar to having ADB vs. NADB sound box.. Randy, I'm interested in finding out about what NADB parts are interchangable with ADB and vice versa. I think it's about time someone put her keyboard where her mouse is. That's exactly what I just did, so let's call it Experiment 0: Equipment: * ADB Turbo Cube w/ SoundBox ADB mouse and keyboard. * NADB 25MHz Slab w/o SoundBox, NADB mouse and keyboard. Results: 1. NADB mouse and keyboard will not fit into the ADB keyboard or the ADB SoundBox without modification. [1] 2. ADB mouse will not work on a NADB keyboard, period. ADB keyboard will not fit into the back of N4000A monitor without modification. [1] 3. ADB mouse/keyboard on an NADB SoundBox was not tested, as I don't have one. [1] ADB's plug looks very similar to NADB keyboard's plug. I guess you can plug the NADB Keyboard into the ADB Soundbox and ADB mouse into NADB keyboard, _if_ you're willing to get rid of the dummy plastic fat pins in both the ADB and NADB plugs. Someone better heeled than I am need to carry out this destructive experiment. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII} #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!cs1.FTA-Berlin.de!gmdtub!stern.fokus.gmd.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: US Robotics Sportster V.34 with Black Hardware Message-ID: <1997Jan25.115647.1020@gamelan.shnet.org> Date: 25 Jan 97 11:56:47 GMT References: <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Organization: Disorganization Lines: 10 Cc: amoghal@predator X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes In <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> Aamir Moghal wrote: > Are there any drivers available for US Robotics Sportster V.34 faxmodem > for NextStep? Has anyone had any luck using the Sportsters with Black > Hardware? Also does anyone have a Modem cable for Black hardware for > sale? From the docs it seems that you can use the latest mgetty+sendfax package from linux. Get version 1.0 or later. I never tried it but would be glad to receive any reports on succs/failures. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702021714.MAA04584@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: d480cd7d933085d24ab3dcd2c94a5b6e - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Sun, 2 Feb 97 12:14:25 -0500 Subject: Re: How to clear ROM password? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: d480cd7d933085d24ab3dcd2c94a5b6e - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 21 Responding To: nick@S-98-185.resnet.ohio-state.edu (RHS Linux User) Original Date: 1 Feb 1997 20:28:55 GMT > How does one clear the password set in ROM on a slab? http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq-noframe.html#HardwarePassword TjL ps -- there's other stuff there that you might want to read as a new owner -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!iway.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX (Post Scriptum) Date: 3 Feb 1997 01:56:09 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: Reply-To: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber35.bordeaux.imaginet.fr In article Scott A Douglass writes: > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > > - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable > - The printer is known to be fully functional > - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional My cable and other settings wer very correct since I could dialog with the printer Postscript server via Kermit, and send it commands to print a page. The problem really lies in prserver. __Pascal Bourguignon__ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!serv.hinet.net!news-peer.nctu.edu.tw!news.nctu.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!news.csie.nctu.edu.tw!not-for-mail From: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to find NeXTbus information? Date: 3 Feb 1997 03:35:35 GMT Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5d3me7$ke2@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <5cvmo8$nin@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: jjhuang@server.cm.nctu.edu.tw X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) ´£¨ì: : In article <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr>, : Eric Levenez wrote: : >1) "NextBus Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, ref 993.00. : >2) "NextBus Interface Chip Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, : > ref 1243.00. : And I think both of these are on Peanuts (peanuts.leo.org) in some somewhat : obvious place. Oh, I found them, they are in peanuts:/pub/next/Documents/hardware *BUT* They are in WriteNow format. I just own a white machine now. So I don't have WriteNow to read them, and the import filter of OpenWrite tells me WriteNow filter only runs on Black machine....:( Who can convert them to PostScript or RTF for me? If someone done the convertion, tell me, I will let you ftp to ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw. Thanks. : NeXT had a development board, which was, as I recall, a wire-wrap board with : an NBIC, documentation, some software, and so on. The last time I looked for : one of these on c.s.n.marketplace about 18 months ago they went for $300 or so. hmmm....but does NeXT Co. offers this now? Or does someone want to sell it? -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#========================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!newscaster-1.mcast.net!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702021721.MAA04740@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 752439a5d92712f1060d71817c61c171 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Sun, 2 Feb 97 12:21:29 -0500 Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 752439a5d92712f1060d71817c61c171 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 55 Responding To: king@tlogic.com (King Rhoton) Original Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 02:17:14 GMT Message-ID: 752439a5d92712f1060d71817c61c171 - > 1) Is OPENstep 4.1 for Mach a full O/S yes. > and does it run on Motorola hardware? Slowly (I've heard) > 2) Why is everyone here interested in getting NeXTstep 3.3 if it's, > what, 3 years old? because there's a lot of NeXTStep machines out there, and if you want to compile apps QuadFat for NeXTStep, you need 3.3. I got it because someday I'll be getting an Intel machine and may want to put NeXTStep on it (if I don't like the Rhapsody, for example) Also, 3.3 apps will run under OpenStep/Mach, so there's still some use to it. > 3) Are there any performance reasons why I would want to choose one > revision over another keeping in mind the hardware I'll have? For NeXT hardware, 3.2 is pretty much fine for 98% of life. The Mail.app for 3.3 is better (MIME support, loadable bundles), but if you are dealing with just a NeXT machine, 3.2 is all you really need. 3.3 is required for most Intel hardware (the 3.3 CD can be loaded onto either NeXT hardware or Intel, it has both) and if you want to compile quadfat you'll want 3.3 dev tools. Given that you have a turbo, you may be able to use OpenStep... you can load it w/ RAM, whereas some mono machines can only take 32 RAM. Someone is probably running 4.1 and can tell you better than I can how it works under a turbo. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!161.142.201.20!news2.jaring.my!rumah.pc.my!newsmaster From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: tower slab Date: 3 Feb 1997 12:36:29 GMT Organization: Personal Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: j28.ptl33.jaring.my X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? Thanks, Mike michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!easynet-uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!easynet-cherry!usenet From: "JOACHIM MOSAKU" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep on Versa 6000 (Does it work) Date: 3 Feb 1997 14:13:35 GMT Organization: FBT CONSULTANCY Lines: 15 Message-ID: <01bc11dc$1f2c3740$e6f983c1@jo> References: <32EAAF3C.24A8@earthlink.net> <32ee1e03.0@cisun2000.unil.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: jo.easynet.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 X-easynet-cherry: 854979215372.nnrp Could you explain exactly how this was done please. I have not been able to install OpenStep on a Versa 6030X. Sean Hill wrote in article <32ee1e03.0@cisun2000.unil.ch>... > Darryl Anton wrote: > > anyone ever try nextstep on a Versa 6000 > > I have OPENSTEP 4.0 running on a Versa 6030. It works. With a few > exceptions. I had to first install OPENSTEP on the disk from another > machine. The only problem I've had is that the PCMCIA driver doesn't work so > great. Some people have said it crashes immediately and hangs the machine. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:05:22 GMT References: <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 31 >And the final issue: How does one convert a NADB to >ADB and vice versa. Well I'd have to tear apart my >sisters 25Mhz ADB station to see, but I believe that in >every 040 system you >can simply upgrade your EEPROM >to v3.3 74 (are there later ones?) and replace components >with ADB components. On systems with soundboxes this This isn't quite sufficient. You also need the Turbo chipset to get ADB support. There are 25MHz "Turboid" machines, so that's likely what your sister has. >EEPROM with something < v3.3 74 appropriate for >your machine Don't think you need to do this to run Non-ADB, since the higher ROM versions will handle both. >system you should be able to boot off CDROM w/o having >to use the floppy.. Interestingly most ADB systems have >2.88's. > That's a function of the later ROM code understanding 2048-byte sectors on SCSI devices. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!newsin.iconnet.net!news.pcnet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-4.sprintlink.net!nntp.snet.net!news.snet.net!usenet From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.dcom.lans.misc Subject: Ethernet,serial or parallel to localtalk? Date: 3 Feb 1997 13:17:58 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5d4oi6$ns0@goofy.snet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hrfr03-sh11-port165.snet.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware:22059 comp.sys.next.hardware:26988 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:62852 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking:17082 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85290 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm:25319 comp.os.linux.hardware:69096 comp.dcom.lans.misc:7903 Any way to get my ix86 box to connect with a printer via its a localtalk connector? I have standard serial, paralled ports as well as 10Base-2 ethernet card any of which could be used. If not possible with current resources, any inexpensive cards that can be purchased to do the trick? Much thanks for any info. Sven #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.indiana.edu!news.indiana.edu!not-for-mail From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tower slab Date: 3 Feb 1997 10:25:44 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5d501o$g02@sawshark.cs.indiana.edu> References: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: sawshark.cs.indiana.edu NNTP-Posting-User: hess In article <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my>, Michael Olan wrote: >I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... >Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely >supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the >hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? I have a slab that's been running on edge for most of 5 years. The only problem I've had is with dust getting into the floppy drive, since the slot is now on the top. I have it setting against a vertical partition, so the air circulation works pretty much as it would lying flat. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tower slab Date: 3 Feb 97 10:38:59 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.60.169 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Mon, Feb 3, 1997 7:36 AM, Michael Olan wrote: > I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... > Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely > supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the > hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? Today's hard drives have no problem being stood on their sides. The older hard drives are less well constructed and you might experience some loss of data from standing them on their side from head missallignment. I think this risk is small, but the safest thing to do is to position the machine as you would want it and then reformat the drive in that position. Any effect gravity has on the head armature will be negated by this precaution. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tower slab Date: 3 Feb 97 10:40:26 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.60.169 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Mon, Feb 3, 1997 7:36 AM, Michael Olan wrote: > I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... > Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely > supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the > hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? A follow up to my last comment. Why would you wnt to stand this thing on it's side? Are you thinking of putting it in a book case or something? In which case you should make sure you have plenty of air circulation around the box. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news.mid.net!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI IDE CD-ROM (NEC) - having problem installing NextStep 3.3 Date: 3 Feb 1997 15:41:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5d50vp$qcv@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <32F159E5.E57@halcyon.com> Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: mathlab44.unl.edu In article <32F159E5.E57@halcyon.com> Pei-Te Kao writes: > In the last few weeks, I have been trying to install NextStep 3.3 on a >... > I have talked with NeXT tech support and was told that they have had > this driver problem with NEC's drive (ATAPI EIDE). They said that I can > attach an external SCSI CD ROM drive for installation. However, after > it's installed it still can't recognize the internal NEC CD ROM drive. I've heard other OS's (Linux) also have trouble with the NEC CDROM. I'd recommend getting rid of it, and replacing with one that does work, TEAC, SONY, MITSUMI, etc... -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!cocoa.brown.edu!cfm.brown.edu!andrew From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstep on IBM-Aptiva-Stelth Date: 3 Feb 1997 16:35:04 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5d543o$7mj@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <5cj404$ff8@cocoa.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cfm.brown.edu In article <5cj404$ff8@cocoa.brown.edu>, andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) writes: |> Has anyone tried to install NeXTstep on the cool-looking |> IBM Aptiva-Stelth? |> |> I plan to buy one if installation is strait forward. |> |> Please e-mail me and post as I don't always XRN (read news). |> |> |> Thanks, |> |> Andrew O.K., has any seen the specs on the IBM Aptiva Stelth and know weather or not its componets are compatible with NeXTstep 3.3 ? Thanks again, Andrew #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!vnetnews.value.net!not-for-mail From: larry@ve6vq.ampr.org (Larry Gadallah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted: DSP expansion RAM Date: 3 Feb 1997 16:43:33 GMT Organization: Value Net Internetwork Services Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5d54jm$qjc$1@vnetnews.value.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ve6vq.ampr.org X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:16276 comp.sys.next.hardware:26994 Wanted: DSP expansion RAM SIMM from NeXT or SFSU. I am looking for a DSP expansion RAM SIMM for either a black cube or color turbo slab. I know that a group at SFSU was once building these SIMMs and selling them, but they recently informed me that they stopped making them some time ago. NeXT also had a smaller expansion SIMM at one time. I am interested in either of these or information that would allow me to "roll my own". Thank you, -- Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ/K6 larry@ve6vq.ampr.org Walnut Creek, California +1 510 943-2164 Key fingerprint = D6 79 5D 9D 41 27 74 03 68 FD D7 F3 86 68 EB A5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de!news From: frank@miranda (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX (Post Scriptum) Date: 3 Feb 1997 17:19:30 GMT Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5d56n2$8v1@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Cc: pjb@imaginet.fr In <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Pascal Bourguignon wrote: > In article Scott A Douglass > writes: > > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find > > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have > > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > > > > - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable > > - The printer is known to be fully functional > > - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional > > My cable and other settings wer very correct since I could dialog with the > printer Postscript server via Kermit, and send it commands to print a page. > The problem really lies in prserver. > I doubt that. In fact you'll need a special cable witch supports DTR flow control (I had a QMS PS Jet Plus running with just the same setup). A normal Null-Modem cable does not work, or works only for short PostScript file as for long files the probability of a data overflow due to the non-functional handshake is getting to high. When you send single chars using kermit there is no overflow problem, so it appears to work.). (Just search your SysAdmin bookshelf for 'zs', this is what you'll find...) NeXT Null-Modem Cable (DTR Flow Control) The following table describes the configuration of a null-modem cable used to connect a NeXT computer to a printer that only supports DTR hardware flow control, rather than RTS/CTS hardware flow control. MiniDIN-8 RS-232 Pin Signal Pin Signal 1 DTR 8 DCD 2 DCD 5 CTS 3 TXD 3 RXD 4 GND 7 GND 5 RXD 2 TXD 6 RTS 20 DTR 7 (Not connected) 8 CTS 4 RTS Maybe this helps. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.iquest.net!not-for-mail From: jim middleton Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How to create serial port speed 38400??? Date: 3 Feb 1997 17:39:42 GMT Organization: overland Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5d57su$497$1@news.iquest.net> References: <01bc0e84$7c4fae80$690497cf@opus.dreams.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ind-0016-25.iquest.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; U; 16bit) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26996 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25171 If anyone has an answer to this, I'm needign to do the same thing in aboutt a week, thanks!... - Greg SOrry I couldn't help you out... :< #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!gatech!ncar!newshost.lanl.gov!corvette.mst6.lanl.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Date: 2 Feb 1997 14:25:43 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5d2857$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Cc: king@tlogic.com In <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> King Rhoton wrote: > I'm buying a NeXT station color turbo, and I'm confused as to what version of > NeXT/OPENstep I should be running on it (I'll have to buy media and a hard > drive for it). I've found www.next.com to be useless in answering these > questions. > > 1) Is OPENstep 4.1 for Mach a full O/S and does it run on Motorola hardware? > 2) Why is everyone here interested in getting NeXTstep 3.3 if it's, what, 3 > years old? > 3) Are there any performance reasons why I would want to choose one revision > over another keeping in mind the hardware I'll have? > > Thanks, > King Rhoton > king@tlogic.com > OpenStep for Mach 4.1 is a full O/S. However, the developer version deleted the 3D kit. NeXTTeX was also deleted. Support for HP hardware was also dropped. OpenStep for Mach 4.1 is a memory hog, since it includes the NEXTSTEP 3.3 runtime libraries for backward compatibilty. So you might want to go to >48 MB RAM if you go 4.1. Otherwise, I've heard there were some performance improvements in 4.x over 3.3. Also, 4.2 may be in the offing at a reduced price with fewer bugs than 4.1. 3.3 should be available cheap. It is very stable. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!infobhan.med.harvard.edu!user From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to Get NS/Black + CD-ROM drive + SCSI adapter? Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 13:05:43 -0500 Organization: Harvard Medical School Lines: 28 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: infobhan.med.harvard.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:16278 comp.sys.next.hardware:26998 I'm looking to get a copy of NeXTSTEP for black hardware. I will be getting a mono cube donated to me shortly with NS 2.0 preloaded. Needless to say, I'd like to upgrade to a newer version so I can try out some NeXT apps. Ideally, I'd like to get OpenStep/Mach 4.1, but I really don't want to spend much money on it. Is there anywhere to get it for less than $300? Otherwise, is there any place selling 3.3 used for a decent price? I a student, so I would apply for any relevant discounts. Also an issue: I don't have an external CD-ROM drive. Anyone know where I could get one cheap? Even a 1x would be fine...it would just be for installing stuff on the cube or my PowerBook. Lastly, I remember the Cube used some sort of funky SCSI connector. Is there anywhere to get an adapter to turn this into a Mac-style 25-pin connector (I saw that one comes with the Jaz drive, but I imagine they are available seperately). Thanks for any help! -- Ishir Bhan Harvard Medical School '00 ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!bignews.shef.ac.uk!usenet From: mmalcolm crawford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what is the slot by the Simm banks? Date: 3 Feb 1997 18:41:06 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5d5bg2$5s5@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> <5cvk2r$4mn@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: mmalcolm crawford NNTP-Posting-Host: daneel.dcs.shef.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <5cvk2r$4mn@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00083 On 02/01/97, Lee Altenberg wrote: > That's for extra RAM for the digital signal processor. I can't recall the > rare circumstance where you would want to fill it. > If you happen to be doing a lot of work with the DSP -- e.g if you're wanting to use MusicKit, and want long delay loops etc. Best wishes, mmalc. -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!ames!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compate NeXT to PC? Date: 3 Feb 1997 20:06:45 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5d5ggl$1rt@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <5cr1oj$bfa@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: carnot.physics.purdue.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: >I did some benchmarks, and a 486 DX2 66 MHz PC was 2.5 times faster than the >NeXT 25 MHz 68040 for basic CPU speed. Graphics performance is comparable. How much memory? That seems to be the major factor. My cube with 64MB of memory was much faster than my PC with 8- or the cube when it had 16, for that matter. A PC with enough memory and good SCSI and graphics cards is faster, for sure. The NeXT still looks better though. It's a handsome piece of machinery. ab #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 3 Feb 1997 19:28:50 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5d5e9i$ko2@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article , David Evans wrote: >>EEPROM with something < v3.3 74 appropriate for >>your machine > Don't think you need to do this to run Non-ADB, since the higher ROM >versions will handle both. No they won't. Non-turbo machines won't boot up with 3.3v74 ROMs. I've tried it on my non-turbo cube. > That's a function of the later ROM code understanding 2048-byte sectors on >SCSI devices. Ditto here. And the v66 ROMs, the latest for non-turbo systems, can't boot off a CD-ROM drive without the aid of the boot floppy. But, I didn't try it with my CD-ROM drive as id0. This attempt may work but the last time I tried, with v63 ROMs, I couldn't boot up--probably because of fstab or something similar (and I didn't pursue the matter any further). Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ridgecrest.ca.us!nntp-server.caltech.edu!waldorf.csc.calpoly.edu!isnews.csc.calpoly.edu!lore.acs.calpoly.edu!tmooney From: tmooney@lore.acs.calpoly.edu (Travis Truman Mooney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: mac m/b in a 12"x12" form factor? Date: 3 Feb 1997 19:20:25 GMT Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5d5dpp$6d@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lore.acs.calpoly.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27002 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:62899 Anyone ever bothered to find out the form factors of powermac motherboards? With the Apple/NeXT merger, it looks like halfway decent hardware may be available for NeXTStep. But it just won't be the same if it's not the cube. I wonder if i can draw power off the nextbus.... Maybe gutting the internals and putting in a mac power supply would be better instead.... Thoughts? travis tmooney@lore.acs.calpoly.edu (ascii only, please) -- travis i don't miss home, but i miss some of the people some of the time #################################################################### From: "Jack" Subject: graphics-card-need help Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> Message-ID: <01bc1216$291bcec0$700002c3@ripper> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.2.0.112 Date: 3 Feb 97 20:07:20 GMT Lines: 12 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!newsfeed.de.ibm.net!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!info.xpoint.at! Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2420 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:130449 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85344 comp.sys.next.hardware:27003 folks, I've heard quite often that I should get myself a 3D-graphics card, BUT I don't know which one to buy: Do the computer games support all cards? If not, which ones are mostly supported? I have Win 95 installed-do I only need a card that supports Win 95? I'm gonna get a MMX-CHip-is there a special / a good card for MMX? As I live in Austria there are not very many nor the newer ones available! Thanks in advance! Jack #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to Get NS/Black + CD-ROM drive + SCSI adapter? Date: 3 Feb 97 15:33:20 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.51.147 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.marketplace, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:16281 comp.sys.next.hardware:27004 On Mon, Feb 3, 1997 1:05 PM, Ishir Bhan wrote: > Also an issue: I don't have an external CD-ROM drive. Anyone know where > I > could get one cheap? Even a 1x would be fine...it would just be for > installing stuff on the cube or my PowerBook. Any SCSI CD ROM should work. > > Lastly, I remember the Cube used some sort of funky SCSI connector. Is > there anywhere to get an adapter to turn this into a Mac-style 25-pin > connector (I saw that one comes with the Jaz drive, but I imagine they are > available seperately). The cable is a SCSI2 to SCSI cable. It's available in any computer store. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!news.eunet.cz!hurka!tom From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Message-ID: Keywords: Cyrix compatibility Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka) Reply-To: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.) References: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:33:18 GMT Lines: 25 Hi Leigh, In article <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) writes: > I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug > with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, > but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. It will hang > the kernel and the problem has been reported to both IBM and > Cyrix, with pathetically little response from them. I had a 6x86 > with repeatable kernel hangs that I solved by replacing with an > Intel CPU. At least three others have confirmed the same problem. > NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, > only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They > aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. I can confirm that too. At the end of the last year I was trying to get the Cyrix P166+ GP processor, revision 3.7 working with NS 3.3 and NS 4.0. Running OmniWeb (except 1.0) hangs the kernel so that the only solution for restart was hardware reset. I solved it by replacing the Cyrix with Intel. Bye, -- Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!bvu.edu!class135 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Looking for NeXT station Message-ID: <1997Feb3.165222.13970@bvu.edu> From: flying_nun@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 03 Feb 97 22:58:50 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: classrm-135.bvu.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Lines: 15 I've been browsing around in the various newgroups for an inexpensive (i.e. under $350) machine to tool around with and do some light programming in my spare time. Old hardware also interests me. My experience with NeXT's is limited to the lonely NeXTcube that used to sit in the back of the Universities old computer center. So I was wondering if anyone has any information about what a system might cost. I've found some information on a couple of web sites but I thought I'd ask someone who has used one of these machines a bit more than I have. Any information would be appreciated. Matt #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!xfer.kren.nm.kr!news.kaist.ac.kr!news From: me@taegeug.kaist.ac.kr (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 64M Ram and NS system panic? Date: 4 Feb 1997 03:54:29 GMT Organization: Set your organization ($ORGANIZATION) Lines: 56 Message-ID: <5d6btl$6vn@worak.kaist.ac.kr> Reply-To: leo@chep5.kaist.ac.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: taegeug.kaist.ac.kr Keywords: 64M Ram panic NextStep X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) v0.8.2 Beta Hello, How can i cure the system panic problem of NS with 64M Dram? I just bought a pair of 16M EDO Drams. I had a pair of normal 16M Drams already. Therefore now i have 64M Ram. In WIN95 system, there is no problem with my Pentium 100, but if i boot NS, the system become 'Panic'. My results are as follows: slot 1 EDO slot 2 EDO System Panic slot 3 Normal slot 4 Normal slot 1 Normal slot 2 Normal System Panic slot 3 EDO slot 4 EDO slot 1 Normal slot 2 EDO System Panic slot 3 Normal slot 4 EDO slot 1 EDO slot 2 EDO No problem.. slot 3 Vacant slot 4 Vacant slot 1 Normal slot 2 Normal No problem slot 3 Vacant slot 4 Vacant When booted without boot graphics, i see that my computer recognized ram as 64M. But the system panic occurs after finish the booting (after the message "boot completed"). I cannot read the messages after that time, because the message sweped out too fastly. My system is as follows: CPU: Pentium 100 intel. CD : Toshiva CD rom 4x. HDD: Quantum Fireball SCSI 1G , Hujithu 1G. Graphic Card: Diamond Stealth 3000 Vram 2M. SCSI controler: Symbios Logic 53C810 Sound Card: Sound Blaster AWE 32. LAN Card: 3Com Combo, 509 Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Hyeong-Chan Kim leo@chep5.kaist.ac.kr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!newshub.tc.umn.edu!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 4 Feb 1997 01:56:46 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5d650u$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Cc: spammers@ruin.the.internet I tried putting a Mac SE mouse on my ADB NeXTstation, and is **sorta** worked, but gave really wierd behavior---suddenly it started popping and the cursor became the ? help cursor. Another time, clicking on a window would send it to the bottom instead of bringing it to the top of the desktop. A Mac Apple Desktop Bus II mouse worked just fine. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Control: cancel Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.tc.umn.edu!mr.net!news.clark.net!phzzzt!mattress!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: news@mattress.atww.org Subject: cmsg cancel X-Canceled-By: news@mattress.atww.org Approved: news@mattress.atww.org Sender: BABAK@TI.COM (Babak) X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: - Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:44:37 GMT Lines: 12 Subject line: Re: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES! This post was cancelled for one or more of the following: 1. It was out of area, off-topic, or inappropriate for a local dc.* newsgroup. 2. It was a duplicate copy of another posting. 3. ECRP violation. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!iway.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX (Post Scriptum) Date: 4 Feb 1997 04:24:17 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5d6dlh$7ep@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <5d56n2$8v1@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Reply-To: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.68.24.50 In article <5d56n2$8v1@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> frank@miranda (Frank M. Siegert) writes: > In <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Pascal Bourguignon wrote: > > In article Scott A Douglass > > writes: > > > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find > > > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have > > > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > > > > > > - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable > > > - The printer is known to be fully functional > > > - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional > > > > My cable and other settings wer very correct since I could dialog with the > > printer Postscript server via Kermit, and send it commands to print a page. > > The problem really lies in prserver. > > > > I doubt that. In fact you'll need a special cable witch supports DTR flow > control (I had a QMS PS Jet Plus running with just the same setup). A normal > Null-Modem cable does not work, or works only for short PostScript file as > for long files the probability of a data overflow due to the non-functional > handshake is getting to high. When you send single chars using kermit there > is no overflow problem, so it appears to work.). > > (Just search your SysAdmin bookshelf for 'zs', this is what you'll find...) > > NeXT Null-Modem Cable (DTR Flow Control) [...] That was more than one year ago, but I remember that I even did the following: branch prserver to one terminal window, branch to the printer with a second terminal window, then copy and paste back and forth the characters. The protocol used by prserver didn't seem pertinent. __Pascal Bourguignon__ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: "William J. Mittelstadt" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help installing disk Date: 4 Feb 1997 04:24:51 GMT Organization: none Lines: 3 Message-ID: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> NNTP-Posting-Host: host236.dev.sprintisp.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a Nextstation running NS 3.2 ? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: Erik Pennebaker Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 4 Feb 1997 07:00:44 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5d6mqs$n6c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: dynamo.cso.uiuc.edu Keywords: Cyrix compatibility X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) writes: >Hi Leigh, >In article <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh >Smith) writes: >> I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug >> with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, >> but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. It will hang >> the kernel and the problem has been reported to both IBM and >> Cyrix, with pathetically little response from them. I had a 6x86 >> with repeatable kernel hangs that I solved by replacing with an >> Intel CPU. At least three others have confirmed the same problem. >> NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, >> only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They >> aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. >I can confirm that too. At the end of the last year I was trying to get >the Cyrix P166+ GP processor, revision 3.7 working with NS 3.3 and NS 4.0. >Running OmniWeb (except 1.0) hangs the kernel so that the only solution >for restart was hardware reset. I solved it by replacing the Cyrix with >Intel. Just in case anyone wants another confirmation, me too. Omniweb throws up a window and the whole thing freezes. Yftp froze after I left it on overnight, and the package installer freezes sometimes to boot. Omniweb is definite though - sure way to hose it. Now I actually have to spend $150 to _down_ grade to a P133. *sigh* -Erik -- ----- Erik Pennebaker | http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/epenneba | epenneba@uiuc.edu Futility is futile. CCSO Workstation Support Group, University of Illinois My opinions #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.sgi.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what is the slot by the Simm banks? Date: 2 Feb 1997 20:47:13 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5d2ugh$mk2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> <5cvk2r$4mn@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: > Nick Poolos wrote: > > What is the slot that looks kinda like a 72 pin simm slot > > inside of a 1991 era slab? > > > > I just "inherited" this box and am in the process of setting > > it back up. It came stripped of drives and mem. > > > > > > That's for extra RAM for the digital signal processor. I can't > recall the rare circumstance where you would want to fill it. If you were doing things with the music kit. Or if you were writing your own programs to run in the DSP. I have a friend that did this, but I imagine it's pretty rare... --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.uio.no!in1.nntp.cais.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 4 Feb 1997 02:51:09 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5d686t$1m2@news.us.net> References: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) wrote: >In article <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh >Smith) writes: >> I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug >> with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, >> but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. >> NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, >> only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They >> aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. > >I can confirm that too. At the end of the last year I was trying to get >the Cyrix P166+ GP processor, revision 3.7 working with NS 3.3 and NS 4.0. How about confirmation on the AMD K5?? I'd like to spend as little as reasonable on my PC right now, since I'd like to get an OPENSTEP/PowerPC PPCP box later. Any comments on either the AMD K5 133 (now $100) or the upcoming K5 166? I wish Apple/Motorola/IBM would get their act together and ship some PPCP boxes - plus Apple should commit that Rhapsody will run on PPCP from the outset. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.uio.no!in1.nntp.cais.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX (Post Scriptum) Date: 4 Feb 1997 02:56:28 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5d68gs$1m2@news.us.net> References: <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> <5d56n2$8v1@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) frank@miranda (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: >In <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Pascal Bourguignon wrote: >> In article Scott A Douglass >> writes: >> > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find >> > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have >> > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > >I doubt that. In fact you'll need a special cable witch supports DTR flow >control (I had a QMS PS Jet Plus running with just the same setup). A normal >Null-Modem cable does not work, or works only for short PostScript file as >for long files the probability of a data overflow due to the non-functional >handshake is getting to high. When you send single chars using kermit there >is no overflow problem, so it appears to work.). I've gotten the Apple Laserwriter II NTX + NeXTstation combo to work before (4 years ago). I used a hardware flow control cable that I was using for telecom and added a NULL modem adapter. Then I set the printer DIP switches for serial and it worked. However, it was quite slow since I never figured out how to get the printer to handle the serial port faster than 9600bps. Bitmap graphics took literally 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to print. Then I picked up a NeXT Laser Printer on one of those first fire sales ($300) and never looked back. BTW, the NLP can print the same page in less than a minute. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!news From: dfish@concentric.net (Don) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Network hardware and cables web site Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:24:55 GMT Organization: D-fish Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5d7697$8sp@chronicle.concentric.net> Reply-To: dfish@concentric.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cnc80588.concentric.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 New web site http://www.quadcablcon.com Wire, cable and network hardware for communicatin and computer industries. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead monitor Date: 4 Feb 1997 11:03:51 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5d752n$fdi@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5cql9l$hd0@epx.cis.umn.edu> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.CUT-HERE NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) rleary@fordyn (Rolfe Leary) wrote: >I'd like to buy a new color monitor to replace the dead one on my Color >Turbo, but I'm not sure what type of monitor will work. Any suggestions >or recommendations? What type of adaptor will I need? Thanks. Any MultiSync color monitor that can handle the resolution (i.e. one that does > 1152x832). It must be capable of handling "sync on green". I have successfully used an older Eizo Flexscan, I'm sure newer models work just fine, too. You'll also need a 13W3 to BNC adaptor, or you can make your own. Here's an alternative approach: Every couple of weeks, somebody posts a request on how to attach a NeXT Color monitor to their PC (I just read such a posting an hour ago). Why don't you make them an attractive offer? You get a nice, cool looking *black* monitor, and a full size screen (the multisync approach results in a slightly shrunk screen display). All the best, hope this helps. Send me personal email if you can't find a source for the adaptor, I'll look up where I got mine. Chris PS: have you tried a taking the monitor to a qualified TV technician? Maybe it can still be fixed. Bring along the station so they get a signal to work with. -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tower slab Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:35:27 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 3-Feb-97 tower slab by Michael Olan@rumah.pc.my > I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... > Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely > supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the > hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? Two things. One, the slab has fins under the power supply on the bottom left of the slab, and these should be placed near or against a surface so that the airflow from the fan will cool the fins adequately. Two, you really want to low-level format your drive(s) in their new orientation since that will handle any minor changes in actuator position due to gravity. Most drives work okay without doing so, but it's a good idea. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdcc12.ucsd.edu!ieng9.ucsd.edu!llay From: enigma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NS 3.2 apps incompatible with OS/Mach 4.1?! Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:50:25 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 25 Message-ID: Reply-To: enigma NNTP-Posting-Host: ieng9.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27018 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25183 Hi, I just recently upgraded my computer to OpenStep/Mach 4.1. I installed my old programs that used to run in NeXTSTEP 3.2. However, during execution of those program, strange error messages pops up in the console window: ... localhost netmsgserver [22] srr_process_queued_request.serr_send_packet fails: 51 ... localhost netmsgserver [22] srr_retry.sendto fails: 51, 8 + 120 = 128 ... localhost netmsgserver [22] netname_main.msg_send fails, kr = -102 ... localhost netmsgserver [22] netname_main.port_type fails, kr = 4 These messages are caused by launching any one of Lighthouse Design's programs (OpenWrite, Parasheet, Quantrix, etc.) as well as Anderson Financial System's PastUp v2.6. I'm not too sure of the versions for the Lighthouse's programs--is it possible that these aren't the newest versions? Perhaps these problems are solved by updates? Any ideas, suggestions, explanations appreciated. Thanks. Lucas. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!tezcat!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:27:01 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> On 2 Feb 1997 spammers@ruin.the.internet wrote: > Now to the more important issues.. What does ADB get you? Well > I havn't tried it yet but I would assume at some point I can put Mac > ADB keyboard & Mouse on the (perhaps I should to preserve > the originals) machine. I know that Mac mice work fine. Multi-button mice don't work right (well, only the main button works under NEXTSTEP). Now that I think about it, older Kensington TurboMouse trackballs (the ones you configure with DIP switches) might be able to use the second button as double-click or command-Z under NEXTSTEP, but I haven't tried it yet. I know you can't simulate the right NeXT mouse button. C'est la vie. I don't think the power buttons on mac keyboards act the same way as the NeXT ADB power button. Adjusting brightness and volume may also be problematic. (Does the Apple adjustable keyboard have volume controls? do they work?) Maybe you can turn on the machine with the NeXT keyboard, then swap to the Mac keyboard, though I know this can fry the ADB chip on some macs. > My concerns would be about whether all the command-alt-shft-~ worked and > the show stopper command-alt-*. Command-alt-shift-~ is now simply command-alt-~ with the ADB keyboard. I forget if command-alt-* is still the "three fingered salute," but I know there is one for ADB machines. > Ok. On to other things. In <5cdjei$5je@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Chris > Borden asked a question that I've been wondering about. That being > whether one could use a ADB tablet on the ADB bus & not the serial > port?! I had another question that related to whether I could find a > Wacom tablet that I could use between the NeXT and a SGI. There > are other questions with tablets too. Like if I use Daydream. Does > Daydream support tablets on the ADB bus? I'm not aware of any ADB tablets... the only WACOM tablets I've used have hooked up to the serial port (yes, on Macs, too). They use an extension on Macs to work as a pointing device, so maybe if you loaded the extenstion under the Daydream environment... Good luck... -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Date: 4 Feb 1997 11:38:03 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5d772r$fdi@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> <5d2857$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.CUT-HERE NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: >OpenStep for Mach 4.1 is a memory hog, since it includes the NEXTSTEP 3.3 >runtime libraries for backward compatibilty. So you might want to go to >48 MB RAM if you go 4.1. Otherwise, I've heard there were some performance >improvements in 4.x over 3.3. I'm typing this on an NADB turbo with 32M memory, running 4.1. Since I haven't got all that much memory, I had feared a severe penalty for upgrading to 4.1, but its not bad at all. Except when compiling, my machine feels as fast as it did under 3.3. Them again, if you do a lot of development, you might consider running a Pentium as a compile server anyway. A *huge* improvement in compilation speed. Regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.melbpc.org.au!news From: gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au (Gordon Slater) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 03:07:31 GMT Organization: Melbourne PC User Group (Australia) Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5d78sl$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> Reply-To: gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au NNTP-Posting-Host: dingo52.melbpc.org.au X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Never used a "real" operating system before so please humor me. I've been forced to consume the best part of a cask of cheap and nasty white wine while trying to deal with NEXT STEP 3.3 for the first time. I have an IBM PC330 - 486 DX4 with 32MB, 2GB EIDE, 4X ATAPI CD ROM and pretty much everything else you ever could want built in. Ended up installing NEXT STEP on an old 540MB drive as NEXT STEP didn't like the 2GB - could have saved myself some money. Rebooted the box to get my first "wiff" of a real operating system (tissues were handy) and early watched the mono-chrome "boot stuff" happen (which must be in VGA or something). All of sudden my monitor (IBM 2215 colour) jumped into power save mode... No, not because I hadn't touched the machine in a while. More cheap and nasty white wine not-withstanding (was I standing?), I learned that it was the Cirrus Logic video driver that was being a very unco-operative shit and pushing the monitor into power save mode every time NEXT STEP booted. The stupid question arrives - Does anyone know how to get an integrated Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA with 1MB to work? If the urge strikes you to tease me about the shity video card or the PC I own, refrain, and recommend the most IDEAL video card for NEXT STEP. One last thought... Who loves you babe? Anyone with a credit card! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!128.250.1.21!munnari.OZ.AU!news.uwa.edu.au!not-for-mail From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 4 Feb 1997 11:58:41 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5d789h$73u$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <5d6mqs$n6c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au In article <5d6mqs$n6c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Erik Pennebaker writes: >Now I actually have to spend $150 to _down_ grade to a P133. > >*sigh* > >-Erik I emailed ask-ibm who directed me to IBM Australia and they said I had to talk to the vendor and I somehow managed to convince them (by email) to take the CPU back and report the problem to IBM. If anyone wants some email reporting the problem, I can forward what I sent to IBM. Personally I think you should really bitch to the manufacturer and demand full refund. I managed to get a Pentium 150Mhz as a replacement for my 6x86 133Mhz (P166+) for only about AUS$100 more than the trade-in and you get a definite improvement above a Pentium 133, about 200,000 drystone performance. I'm a much less irritable person nowdays... :-) -- Leigh Smith Computer Science, University of Western Australia +61-9-380-1945 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "In a world where success means gaining time, thinking has a single but irredeemable fault: it's a waste of time" - J-F. Lyotard #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.inetnebr.com!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64M Ram and NS system panic? Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:23:51 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5d7urn$t30@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5d6btl$6vn@worak.kaist.ac.kr> Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: mathlab44.unl.edu Use Configure.app to move the FramBuffer address for your video card above the 64MB region. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.inetnebr.com!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:22:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5d7upl$t2u@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5d686t$1m2@news.us.net> Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: mathlab44.unl.edu I can verify that the AMD 486 clones work without a hitch. We use a bunch of AMD486-120's and AMD486-133's without any problems whatsoever on an ASUS PVI-486SP3 motherboards. I'm going to try the Biostar motherboard soon, and will post my success/failure. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!wizard.pn.com!news.gte.com!emon From: emon@gte.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:19:02 -0500 Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: h132-197-102-3.gte.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24324 comp.os.linux.hardware:69308 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26513 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26698 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123335 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24308 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98351 comp.sys.next.hardware:27025 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27043 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44353 Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse. They sell used/refurbished hard drive as new. And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has expired. --Emon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.tc.umn.edu!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!150.124.136.2!wang!usenet From: fockem@wangfed.com (Michael W. Focke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: 5 Feb 1997 13:41:50 GMT Organization: Wang Federal Inc Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5da2mu$6bl@elf.wang.com> References: <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 159.94.9.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24327 comp.os.linux.hardware:69315 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26521 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26714 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123350 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24311 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98359 comp.sys.next.hardware:27026 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27046 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44357 One way to deal with this difficulty is to send the company a letter confirming your voice understanding of what you are ordering..can be letter, email or fax. It neads to state all your assumptions about the drive, that it is new (defined as never installed in a machine and not a refurbished or reapired unit) and carries a manufacturers warrantee of N years and a dealers guarantee of immediate replacement within N days if the drive fails on arrival or within NN days, etc. It confims your order and requests that they not ship the order if any of the facts are different. If you do this and you get something different, then you have something to show the authorities and a basis for a claim. It sure beats "but I thought you said....". #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!bignews.shef.ac.uk!usenet From: mmalcolm crawford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: 3 Feb 1997 18:34:00 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5d5b2o$5q8@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: Reply-To: mmalcolm crawford NNTP-Posting-Host: daneel.dcs.shef.ac.uk In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00083 On 01/29/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > > I am searching for some sites that cover all the hardware available that > > NeXT made. Any out there... > > what sorts of things are you looking for? > > We can probably come up with a list here (others can add/correct): > > 030 cube > 040 cube > 040 slab > 040 color slab > 040 turbo slab > 040 turbo color slab > NeXT Dimension > NeXT ADB > > They also had a CD drive. > And a Laser Printer, and a Color Printer. And some rather good tie pins, and Cross Pens. And those special screwdriver things for getting the backplate off of Cubes -- kinda handy, but I think someone has cornered the market in them (at Expo '93). Best wishes, mmalc. -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!not-for-mail From: Martin Klocke Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 21:29:33 +0100 Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Lines: 40 Message-ID: <32F79C2D.3348@ika.rwth-aachen.de> References: <5d5b2o$5q8@bignews.shef.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: pc200.ika.rwth-aachen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) mmalcolm crawford wrote: > > On 01/29/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > > > > > I am searching for some sites that cover all the hardware available that > > > NeXT made. Any out there... > > > > what sorts of things are you looking for? > > > > We can probably come up with a list here (others can add/correct): > > > > 030 cube > > 040 cube > > 040 slab > > 040 color slab > > 040 turbo slab > > 040 turbo color slab > > NeXT Dimension > > NeXT ADB > > > > They also had a CD drive. > > > And a Laser Printer, and a Color Printer. > > And some rather good tie pins, and Cross Pens. > > And those special screwdriver things for getting the backplate off of Cubes > -- kinda handy, but I think someone has cornered the market in them (at Expo There is actually a very sweet site featuring scans of the old NeXT brochures, and all the specs (exept the turbos) at: http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html They are all JPEGS of 500k or bigger, but the site is quite fast (it took them 4-5 seconds to load) very nice, nearly made me cry... Bye, Martin Klocke martink@ika.rwth-aachen.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!szdc!szdc-e!news From: scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 5 Feb 1997 16:57:15 GMT Organization: None Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24338 comp.os.linux.hardware:69341 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26531 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26739 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123366 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24321 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98388 comp.sys.next.hardware:27029 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27056 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44363 If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hamblin.math.byu.edu!acs2.byu.edu!news.cuny.edu!news From: Andrea Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:05:42 -0800 Organization: ccny library Lines: 14 Message-ID: <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.74.20.117 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24348 comp.os.linux.hardware:69362 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26546 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26762 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123390 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24332 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98417 comp.sys.next.hardware:27030 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27062 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44371 I also had my suspicions about them they have not always been forthcoming on all the specs about a drive when you purchase one. THanks fo rthe warning! emon@gte.com wrote: > > Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse. They sell used/refurbished hard drive > as new. And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive > starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has > expired. > > --Emon #################################################################### Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!oce.nl!not-for-mail!news From: Marcel Stegehuis Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading X-Nntp-Posting-Host: esa-ws08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32F5D8A5.3577@oce.nl> Sender: news@oce.nl (The Daily News @ nntp01.oce.nl) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Oce Nederland B.V. References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:23:01 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/710) Lines: 33 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2447 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:130783 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85512 comp.sys.next.hardware:27031 Doug Phelps wrote: > > Jack wrote: > Jack, I would look at your motherboard before you go and get an MMX > CPU! make sure it is upgradable to the speed you are looking at. And > make sure it will support the dual voltage requirments of MMX. > Jack ! Could you help me here, dual-voltage ? Why, how . . . -- __________________________________________________________________ Groetjes: Marcel Stegehuis E-mail: qqmar@oce.nl OCE Nederland B.V. Tel.: +31 77 3593172 P.O. Box 101 Fax.: +31 77 3595473 5900 MA Location: R&D, 3L08 Venlo, The Netherlands __________________________________________________________________ ****************************************************************** ** ** ** This note does not necessarily represent the position of ** ** OCE Nederland B.V. or ICT Automatisering B.V. ** ** Therefor no liability or responsibility ** ** for whatever will be accepted. ** ** ** ****************************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!usenet From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Black slab failing self-diagnostic tests, but still boots with manual help Date: 5 Feb 1997 02:23:49 GMT Organization: Stanford University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5d8qvl$21f@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: mally.stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) We have a NeXTstation in our lab that is failing the "Extended Self-Diagnostic" tests at the beginning of the boot sequence. It gets through: FPU, SCC, SCSI, Enet, but then stops, and never completes the sequence RTC, Timer, Event Counter, Sound Out However, by getting to the ROM monitor (CMD-CMD-`), one can boot the machine by typing "b". The machine then works fine (though OmniWeb seems to crash the machine mysteriously). Can someone tell me what the failure might be (is it connected with RTC?). Are the OmniWeb crashes related to the hardware failure? Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks for your response, Ed --- Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!szdc!szdc-e!news From: scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: 5 Feb 1997 01:12:26 GMT Organization: None Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5d8mpq$sql@krypto.zippo.com> References: <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24357 comp.os.linux.hardware:69375 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26561 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26767 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123411 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24336 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98444 comp.sys.next.hardware:27033 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27067 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44375 In article <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com>, ancar@mindspring.com says... > >I also had my suspicions about them >they have not always been forthcoming on all the specs about a drive >when you purchase one. >THanks fo rthe warning! It's best to be cautious if a vendor doesn't tell you all about the drive (it's origin) before you buy. There's a company that offers some really good HD prices (like 1.6 GB Connor or Maxtor drives for $158) and they tell you all about them before you buy: http://pcgenerations.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!usenet From: "Andrew Kim" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Date: 4 Feb 97 21:52:05 -0800 Organization: Cogent Software Lines: 55 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p12.dsphere.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/1.2 X-News-Servers: news.cogent.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.sysadmin Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:56479 comp.sys.next.hardware:27034 comp.sys.next.misc:24987 comp.sys.next.programmer:22408 comp.sys.next.software:27878 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25209 --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 (040 Black) by step by step instruction? Online help does not gives me a bit helpful. I have Supra Sonic and NeXTstation Color. I am very confused and I have a no idea what to do. Thank you for any suggestion. PS. I tried Gatekeeper, & Kermit. but never worked. What did I do wrong??? --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 12PalatinoIs there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 (040 Black) by step by step instruction? Online help does not gives me a bit helpful. I have Supra Sonic and NeXTstation Color. I am very confused and I have a no idea what to do. Thank you for any suggestion. PS. I tried Gatekeeper, & Kermit. but never worked. What did I do wrong??? --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC-- --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: news@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <32F71DAE.4516@computer.at> Date: 5 Feb 1997 03:07:21 GMT Control: cancel <32F71DAE.4516@computer.at> Message-ID: Sender: "Webmaster" X-Cancelled-By: news@ibm.net Approved: news@ibm.net Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by news@ibm.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <408f5520.17032259@news.zippo.com> Date: 6 Feb 1997 09:31:27 GMT Control: cancel <408f5520.17032259@news.zippo.com> Message-ID: Sender: cjtech@inreach.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.uio.no!solace!mn6.swip.net!seunet!news2.swip.net!rat.se!news From: lars@andrej.rat.se (Lars Pehrsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dell Optiplex pro - Onboard networkcard Date: 6 Feb 1997 11:01:35 GMT Organization: Research & Trade AB Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5dcdmf$fr9@baldwin.rat.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: andrej.rat.se Has anyone succedded in installing nextstep on this machine and got the onboard networkcard going ?? Onboard networkcard is suppose to be 3-Com compatible. Thanks in advance Research & Trade AB Lars Pehrsson lars@rat.se #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!haven.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!rac6.wam.umd.edu!keithw From: Keith Wiley Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:13:19 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rac6.wam.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Steven C. Slawin" In-Reply-To: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24372 comp.os.linux.hardware:69433 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26595 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26797 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123455 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24349 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98510 comp.sys.next.hardware:27036 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27084 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44390 Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. . . .. ... ..... ........ ............. ..................... .. ... ..... ....... ........... ............. ................. . .. .... ........ ................ ................................ Keith Wiley, Electrogenetic Engineer * University of Maryland at College Park * * * * * * email: keithw@wam.umd.edu *** ** * * ** * world wide web: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~keithw * ** ** *** On 5 Feb 1997, Steven C. Slawin wrote: > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!pacbell.com!ames!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 6 Feb 1997 13:16:57 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5dclk9$4js@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: acubed.mgmt.purdue.edu Andy Shiekh writes > In article , > Keith Wiley wrote: > > > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. > > It says IDE Now it does. It sure didn't last night. -- Jon Haveman #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 6 Feb 1997 07:54:28 -0500 Organization: PHCS Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5dcka4$iv3@papoose.quick.com> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24377 comp.os.linux.hardware:69444 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26599 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26802 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123472 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24356 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98523 comp.sys.next.hardware:27038 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27089 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44393 In article , Keith Wiley wrote: >Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but >they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean The title region of the table contains the text "All drives are IDE (complete specs to be posted 2/8)" -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Benchmarking an MMX processor Date: 6 Feb 1997 08:27:52 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5dct9o$173@xmission.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961006] Has anyone benched an MMX processor running NEXTSTEP? I'm curious about how the greater L1 cache affects CPU-bound stuff, all things equal. Bifrost, are you listening? =) ...............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!news.cerf.net!news From: jgee@eagle.co.la.ca.us (Jerry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:47:47 GMT Organization: eagle Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.co.la.ca.us X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24382 comp.os.linux.hardware:69458 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26610 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26813 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123481 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24357 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98532 comp.sys.next.hardware:27040 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27092 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44396 scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) wrote: >If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out >PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard >drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I >know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. That nice, but if you look at the web auctions and newsgroups, the best deals are 1GB at about $100 a gigabyte. That seems to be the going rate. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!not-for-mail From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 6 Feb 1997 16:22:30 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> NNTP-Posting-Host: shiva.nrl.navy.mil In article <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> "William J. Mittelstadt" writes: > Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a Nextstation > running NS 3.2 ? I am also thinking of buying this disk and install it as second hard drive. Any suggestions to avoid any pitfalls will be greatly appreciated. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.orst.edu!news From: Dennis Garity Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help on added hard drive Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 08:30:51 -0800 Organization: Mathematics Department Lines: 18 Message-ID: <32FA073A.61E5@math.orst.edu> Reply-To: garity@math.orst.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: garity.math.orst.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) I have a Pentium 100 with a 1GB Seagate SCSI drive partitioned into a Next partition and a MSDOS partition. I just had installed an additional 2GB SCSI drive partitioned into two MSDOS partitions. After installing the new hard drive, I can no longer boot up into the Next operating sustem. I get a system panic message when trying. Any suggestions on what to do will be appreciated Dennis Garity Mathematics Department Oregon State University garity@math.orst.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Imagine Series II Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 06:58:25 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 27 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) I have placed an order for an Number Nine Imagine 128 Series II video card with 4 megs of VRAM. According to NeXTAnswers, the series II is not yet supported by the 4.0 drivers, and the new release was apparently scheduled for Q3 96. Ask_Next warns against using this beta which John Kheit (Thanks John!) pointed out to me in the ftp archives: ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_In formation/Drivers/3.3_Drivers/Beta/2488_Number9Imagine128S2DisplayDriver #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news-in.iadfw.net!usenet From: liuyi@crystalball.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 6 Feb 1997 18:13:36 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Reply-To: liuyi@crystalball.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp10.crystalball.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil In <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Narendra Batra wrote: > In article <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> "William J. Mittelstadt" > writes: > > Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a Nextstation > > running NS 3.2 ? > > I am also thinking of buying this disk and install it as second hard > drive. Any suggestions to avoid any pitfalls will be greatly appreciated. In NS3.3, this drive (2.1GB version, right?) will be taken care of automagically by BuildDisk.app. For NS3.2, you will need add a /etc/disktab entry, here's one from Timothy Van Zandt for the 2.1GB dirve: DORS-32160|DORS-32160-512|IBM DORS-32160-512:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6703:nt#5:ns#125:ss#512:rm#5400:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:rw=a:\ :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD: (Sorry if this stanza shows up all screwed up in format, I'm having big problems trying to convince RadicalNews to respect the newlines I put in and stop reformating them.) Check it carefully before you put it in your /etc/disktab. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII} #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news-in.iadfw.net!usenet From: liuyi@crystalball.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What type of RAM in Nextstation Turbo? Date: 6 Feb 1997 18:20:10 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5dd7cq$p9s@library.airnews.net> References: <5daqc8$s20@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> <32F9E2F2.4156@gcomm.com> Reply-To: liuyi@crystalball.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp10.crystalball.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: amando@gcomm.com In <32F9E2F2.4156@gcomm.com> amando@gcomm.com wrote: > Hi! I have the same question regarding RAM type. I have a Nextstation > with only 24 MB of RAM and I would like to upgrade to 64 MB. > My nexstation has 4 sockets of 72 pins. Can I use memory from my PC and > install it on to the next? Yes, it should work. But check the FAQ first, 5.24 addresses the SIMM question: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII} #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!156.80.5.6!news.bah.com!NewsWatcher!user From: jbays@gmu.edu (John Bays) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:14:23 -0500 Organization: George Mason University Lines: 1 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 156.80.175.13 cancel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!odin.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!news.gwis.com!gwis.com!yeeware From: Steve Yee Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:22:31 -0500 Organization: Gateway to Internet Services Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: darcy.gwis.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24391 comp.os.linux.hardware:69483 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26626 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26826 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123498 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24364 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98555 comp.sys.next.hardware:27046 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27105 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44403 I visited the site also. My sentiment exactly. I'm looking for a scsi drive also, and couldn't tell what was what. SYee On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Keith Wiley wrote: > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean > come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a > break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the > transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. > That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just > gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. > > . . .. ... ..... ........ ............. ..................... > .. ... ..... ....... ........... ............. ................. > . .. .... ........ ................ ................................ > Keith Wiley, Electrogenetic Engineer * > University of Maryland at College Park * * * * * * > email: keithw@wam.umd.edu *** ** * * ** * > world wide web: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~keithw * ** ** *** > > > On 5 Feb 1997, Steven C. Slawin wrote: > > > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > > > > > > > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!southwind.net!symbios.com!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!tali.UCHSC.edu!john.weil From: john.weil@uchsc.edu (John V. Weil) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 11:07:35 -0700 Organization: CVP Research Lab Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cressman.uchsc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.6 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24393 comp.os.linux.hardware:69485 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26627 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26827 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123504 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24368 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98558 comp.sys.next.hardware:27047 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27107 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44405 In article <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com>, scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) wrote: > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. ALL DRIVES ARE IDE! -- John V. Weil #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newshub.tc.umn.edu!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!www.facs.federated-fds.com!postmaster@facs.federated-fds.com From: Gregory Junker Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:47:46 -0500 Organization: Federated Department Stores Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5dd57a$a85@www.facs.federated-fds.com> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> Reply-To: gjunker@%SPAM_REPELLANT%one.net NNTP-Posting-Host: deneb.facs.federated-fds.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24394 comp.os.linux.hardware:69486 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26628 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26830 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123505 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24370 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98559 comp.sys.next.hardware:27048 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27109 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44406 > > On 5 Feb 1997, Steven C. Slawin wrote: > > > > > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > > > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > > > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > > > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. And this is supposed to cover any questions we may have??????? Unfortunately, your not-so-disinterested say-so is hardly a concrete testimonial..... How about warranty terms? -- Any posts or replies, past or present, are not indication or statement of the position of Federated Department Stores on any subject, unless otherwise explicitly stated. They are only my own; this should be self-evident to most sentient beings. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To reply via email, remove (including %'s) the SPAM_REPELLANT from the Reply-To address --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory Junker - Systems Development Federated Department Stores #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!worldnet.att.net!cbgw2.lucent.com!cbgw1.lucent.com!cnn.Princeton.EDU!usenet From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Improving image on Next Monochrome monitor Date: 6 Feb 1997 20:09:29 GMT Organization: Princeton University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5dddpp$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Reply-To: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) NNTP-Posting-Host: zandtwerk.princeton.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) I have one of those dim NeXT monochrome monitors. Following some instructions posted to this group a few years back, I increased the white level to its max setting, which brightened things up a bit. A new problem is that images ghost hirozontally (dark images cast light `shadows' towards the right). Also, the contrast is not good, even though I checked the focus. Any solutions? What do the CUTOFF and V LIN controls do? -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!news.unb.ca!hudson!mleese From: mleese@hudson.CS.unb.ca (Martin Leese - OMG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Date: 6 Feb 1997 20:19:44 GMT Organization: Ocean Mapping Group, University of New Brunswick, Canada Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5dded0$bj3@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> Reply-To: mleese@omg.unb.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: hudson.omg.unb.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24399 comp.os.linux.hardware:69504 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26634 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26843 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123515 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24375 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98576 comp.sys.next.hardware:27050 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27115 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44408 On 5 Feb 1997 16:57:15 GMT Steven C. Slawin (scslawin@gte.net) wrote: >> If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out >> PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard >> drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. Look: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware, comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware, comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware, comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware This is SPAM. >> I >> know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. That I believe. Regards, Martin E-mail: mleese@omg.unb.ca WWW: http://www.omg.unb.ca/~mleese/ ______________________________________________________________________ Want to know how Ambisonics can improve the sound of your LPs and CDs? Read the Ambisonic Surround Sound FAQ. Version 2.7 now on my WWW page. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!cbgw1.lucent.com!cnn.Princeton.EDU!usenet From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 6 Feb 1997 20:20:33 GMT Organization: Princeton University Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> Reply-To: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) NNTP-Posting-Host: zandtwerk.princeton.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: liuyi@crystalball.com In <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> Yi Liu wrote: > In <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Narendra Batra wrote: > > > Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a > Nextstation > > > running NS 3.2 ? > > In NS3.3, this drive (2.1GB version, right?) will be taken care of > automagically by BuildDisk.app. For NS3.2, you will need add a > /etc/disktab entry, here's one from Timothy Van Zandt > for the 2.1GB dirve: > > DORS-32160|DORS-32160-512|IBM DORS-32160-512:\ > :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6703:nt#5:ns#125:ss#512:rm#5400:\ > :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ > :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:rw=a:\ > :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ > :ia:ta=4.3BSD: And don't forget to first follow the instructions on NS #1533: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1533.htmld/1533.html Its a quick, quiet disk. Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 12:31:22 -0600 From: billw@xpense.com Subject: Hard Drive help - Seagate ST5660NC Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <855167041.26248@dejanews.com> Reply-To: billw@xpense.com Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Feb 05 18:25:20 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 207.153.167.4 () X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01 (WinNT; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: billw@xpense.com Lines: 14 Hello all! i am thinking about getting the following drive: Seagate SCSI-II ST5660NC will i be able to use it as the only drive in my non-turbo, non-color slab? thanks much! bill ps- it has an 80pin sca connector -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!mr.net!news.mr.net!news.protocom.com!usenet From: "Mike Prendergast" Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: Quantum Bigfoot 2.5GB H/D Qty 100 Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:03:48 GMT Organization: Mike Prendergast Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bc1478$f54fa5c0$888048cc@mike.protocom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.72.128.136 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85652 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98609 comp.sys.next.hardware:27053 FOR SALE Quantum Bigfoot 2.5GB H/D 100 pieces new Contact: Michael Prendergast Fuller Workstations 612-653-6789 mprender@catpc.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!oce.nl!not-for-mail!news From: Marcel Stegehuis Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading X-Nntp-Posting-Host: esa-ws08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> Sender: news@oce.nl (The Daily News @ nntp01.oce.nl) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Oce Nederland B.V. References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:07:34 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/710) Lines: 33 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2464 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:131099 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85658 comp.sys.next.hardware:27054 Matt Kauffman wrote: > > If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a > P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board > compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. > > MMK > -- > just another human resource Well than. Imagine I already have a P166 (say normal as far as that good be). Can I just put in a P166 MMX. Do I need a bios upgrade ? -- __________________________________________________________________ Groetjes: Marcel Stegehuis E-mail: qqmar@oce.nl OCE Nederland B.V. Tel.: +31 77 3593172 P.O. Box 101 Fax.: +31 77 3595473 5900 MA Location: R&D, 3L08 Venlo, The Netherlands __________________________________________________________________ ****************************************************************** ** ** ** This note does not necessarily represent the position of ** ** OCE Nederland B.V. or ICT Automatisering B.V. ** ** Therefor no liability or responsibility ** ** for whatever will be accepted. ** ** ** ****************************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!btnet!knews.uk0.vbc.net!vbcnet-gb!i-way.co.uk.!usenet From: "dgrant" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA Date: 5 Feb 1997 18:18:27 GMT Organization: I-Way Limited, Reading Lines: 28 Message-ID: <01bc1390$05c2c480$6fc081c2@Darren.i-way.co.uk> References: <5d78sl$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.129.192.111 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 You should be able to use this but don't try and push it beyond 800*600 at 70Hz and use 8bit mode as you need more ram for any other mode. You will probably find that the display is not in powersave mode but overun protection due to the card using an unsupported frequency. Dont forget you can start up in basic VGA mode by typing config=Default at the Boot: prompt Gordon Slater wrote in article <5d78sl$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au>... > All of sudden my monitor (IBM 2215 colour) jumped into power save > mode... No, not because I hadn't touched the machine in a while. > > More cheap and nasty white wine not-withstanding (was I standing?), I > learned that it was the Cirrus Logic video driver that was being a > very unco-operative shit and pushing the monitor into power save mode > every time NEXT STEP booted. > > The stupid question arrives - Does anyone know how to get an > integrated Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA with 1MB to work? > > If the urge strikes you to tease me about the shity video card or the > PC I own, refrain, and recommend the most IDEAL video card for NEXT > STEP. > > One last thought... > > Who loves you babe? Anyone with a credit card! > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!swrinde!news.uh.edu!rao From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What type of RAM in Nextstation Turbo? Date: 5 Feb 1997 20:25:44 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5daqc8$s20@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: sysmod.egr.uh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I need to upgrade the RAM in my Nextstation Turbo. I have read the FAQ and the note on NextAnswers (both very helpful). I currently have 24 MB RAM (8+8+4+4) and would like to take it to 64 MB (32+32). My question is - will EDO RAM work in the Turbo? I want to buy the latest/fastest RAM that will work in the TURBO so that I can later use the RAM in an NS/INtel machine as well. Thanks for your help. Jagannatha -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sumter!icardena From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Millenium PowerDoc Edition? Date: 6 Feb 1997 23:24:19 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5ddp73$10u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: sumter.cso.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) Is anyone currently using the PowerDoc edition of the Matrox Millenium? A sales rep from Matrox said it "should work" but I would like someone to say "yes it definitely works." Thanks, -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO Sites Technical Support "I am of the opinion that pizza and beer together are far superior to either in isolation." -James E. Quick on the Apple/NeXT merger #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!nthwd.demon.co.uk!nthwd.demon.co.uk!burns From: "B.MacDonald" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:15:01 +0000 Organization: poor Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nthwd.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: nthwd.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.01 <3vZRKhWCtAQ5h4tjyCtFaJ8Sy9> Lines: 12 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24410 comp.os.linux.hardware:69549 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26653 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26883 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123549 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24382 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98638 comp.sys.next.hardware:27058 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27132 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44419 In article <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com>, "Steven C. Slawin" writes >If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out >PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard >drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I >know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > No doubt! -- B.MacDonald, Northwood, Middlesex, UK E-mail: burns@nthwd.demon.co.uk burns@dircon.co.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!nthwd.demon.co.uk!nthwd.demon.co.uk!burns From: "B.MacDonald" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:18:17 +0000 Organization: poor Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nthwd.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: nthwd.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.01 <3vZRKhWCtAQ5h4tjyCtFaJ8Sy9> Lines: 18 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24411 comp.os.linux.hardware:69550 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26654 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26884 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123550 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24383 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98639 comp.sys.next.hardware:27059 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27133 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44420 In article <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net>, Jerry writes >scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) wrote: > >>If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out >>PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard >>drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I >>know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > >That nice, but if you look at the web auctions and newsgroups, the >best deals are 1GB at about $100 a gigabyte. That seems to be the >going rate. > Perhaps that's where they came from. $39/drive is a nice profit. -- B.MacDonald, Northwood, Middlesex, UK E-mail: burns@nthwd.demon.co.uk burns@dircon.co.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!fido.asd.sgi.com!news From: Michael Taylor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 15:53:14 -0500 Organization: Alias|Wavefront Lines: 33 Message-ID: <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: opus.tor.aw.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) > > Please excuse my ignorance, but I've been wondering for a while now > > just what this MMX thing is..... > > A Wintel ploy to relieve you of more disposable income to gain > "multimedia" enhancements" of highly questionable worth. MMX is a little more than that. Admittedly, you won't notice any difference until you get software that supports it. Here's the general idea. In most multi-media applications, the data is made up of small values. Modern processors can do 64-bit operations, but this doesn't help much for doing sound (mostly 16-bit values), 24-bit graphics (3 bit values per pixel), etc. But, what if you could use your 64-bit operations to do operations on several smaller values at the same time (eg. do math on four 16 bit values at once). In this case, you can get a 4 times speed increase in processing digital sound. That's the basic concept. However, it won't speed up any applications that aren't written specifically to support this. The new MMX processors will at least have the effect of pushing down the prices on older non-MMX models. /\/\ike -- /\/\ike Taylor | Mail: mtaylor@aw.sgi.com Alias|Wavefront Toronto | Voice: (416) 362-8558 x8740 Developer, API Team =D--' http://reality.sgi.com/mtaylor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!nerc.com!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702042259.RAA02530@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 56651da2a9a119ef0a0810f46094941a - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Tue, 4 Feb 97 17:59:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Looking for NeXT station Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 56651da2a9a119ef0a0810f46094941a - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 33 You might have looked in comp.sys.next.marketplace and seen this: > >From: sedwards@fred.net (DEEPSPACE TECH.) >Subject: FS:NEXTSTATIONS $270 and up >Date: 27 Jan 1997 18:16:56 GMT >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace > > We just received another load of Next hardware. > > MONO STATIONS 8mb RAM,105 HD, 17" Megapixel Display, > Keyboard and mouse for $270.00 > > MONO TURBOS 8mb RAM, 250mb HD, 17 Megapixel Display, > Keyboard, and Mouse for $470.00 > > COLOR TURBOS 16mb RAM, 250mb HD, 17" Color Monitor, > Keyboard, Sound Box, Mouse, Starting at $949.00 > > Also we have a large selection of parts and > PRINTERS. See our website: > > www.deepspacetech.com TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!128.130.2.8!news.tuwien.ac.at!news From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: increase the vertical refresh rate Date: 5 Feb 1997 14:42:29 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5da68l$7ju@news.tuwien.ac.at> Reply-To: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at NNTP-Posting-Host: ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at Hi all, Does anyone know how to increase the vertical refresh rate in the driver? We use MatroxMilennium (8MB) and an Eizo screen with max hor. frequency of 90KHz. For true color at 1200x1024, the driver supports only 90Hz (which is out-of-range for the monitor) and 75Hz. When using 75Hz mode, the monitor reports as only 73.5 Hz and 78.4 KHz (note that these values don't fix each other: 73.5 x 1024 = 74.5 KHz and 78.4KHz/1024=76.56 Hz) We would like to increase the vertical refresh rate to about 85 Hz, so it's better for the users. Such a thing can be done in Windows (although I don't like it too, I had to mention here). But in OpenStep (4.0) how can I do it? Another thing with the driver (we think that it's a bug in the driver) is something after rebooting the machine, the horizontal frequency is doubled (thanks God we have a good monitor that automatically cut the signal off and ring it alarm sound). The only thing we can do in such a situation is power off the machine, wait for 5 minutes (drink a coffee) and reboot it again (if it doesn't work, drink another coffee and so on, hope that you don't have to drink so much coffee). Is there any better solution? The last check in NextAnswer shows no newer driver. All hints are appreciated. Thanks very much, Khanh Nguyen (Vienna University of Technology) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!not-for-mail From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to get the most out of 2 GB drive? Date: 7 Feb 1997 00:49:30 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ddu6q$6tk$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Reply-To: jehu@vt.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: jehu.async.vt.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25234 comp.sys.next.hardware:27063 I am trying to use a 2GB disk as my boot disk and everything installed fine but when I login the system tells me I only have a 1 GB disk. How do I format the disk to get all the space? Thanks. -- John Stanhope jehu@vt.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!worldnet.att.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ethernet cards Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 23:54:39 -0500 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <32FAB58F.7743@smart.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-as67s39.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Do the following cards work equally well with OS 4.0? Are there problems with any of them? Intel EtherExpress 3Com Etherlink III 3Com Etherlink II SMC Elite 16 Ultra #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!tgritton From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 21:12:23 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dd57-101.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.1 In article , Isaac wrote: >On 2 Feb 1997 spammers@ruin.the.internet wrote: > >> Now to the more important issues.. What does ADB get you? Well >> I havn't tried it yet but I would assume at some point I can put Mac >> ADB keyboard & Mouse on the (perhaps I should to preserve >> the originals) machine. > >I know that Mac mice work fine. Multi-button mice don't work right (well, >only the main button works under NEXTSTEP). Now that I think about it, >older Kensington TurboMouse trackballs (the ones you configure with >DIP switches) might be able to use the second button as double-click or >command-Z under NEXTSTEP, but I haven't tried it yet. I know you can't >simulate the right NeXT mouse button. C'est la vie. As I mentioned in another post the second and third buttons on the Contour mouse do work. But you cannot set them up to do the Next mouse button thing of bringing up the menu. The second/third buttons do work for lock dragging, that is one click to start drag, second click to end drag, thus saving pressing during the drag. Strangely ( to me) the acceleration coefficient of the third button is flat making for finer control in the dragging ( or whatever you are doing with the locked/pressed button). The second button has normal mouse acceleration/scaling. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!mr.net!news.mr.net!wavefront.com!not-for-mail From: Pohl Longsine Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 10:19:05 -0600 Organization: mementech, inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <32F8B2F9.54E682D1@screaming.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: godel.mementech.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i486) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:56698 comp.sys.next.hardware:27066 comp.sys.next.misc:24992 comp.sys.next.programmer:22457 comp.sys.next.software:27912 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25235 Andrew Kim wrote: > Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 > (040 Black) by step by step instruction? I'd like to point out here that it's really bad form to crosspost support questions to all of the comp.sys.next.* groups. Be more selective, please. -- pohl@screaming.org |"Reality is that which when you stop believing http://screaming.org/ | in it doesn't go away." -- Philip K. 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Your DISCOUNT Computer Source http://www.pcdiscounters.com e-mail webmaster@pcdiscounters.com fax: 801-762-0010 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!nntp.primenet.com!news.fibr.net!news.world-net.net!usenet From: Henry D. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: a local Distributor 'B' goods, 30 day warranty Date: 6 Feb 1997 21:04:07 GMT Organization: World Net, Inc. - San Antonio, TX Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5ddh07$7md@paperboy.world-net.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialip230.world-net.net Place bids to henryd@world-net.net 30 warranty all items. ADI monitors, RMA repairs still have manufacture warranty 17" MS5V 15"MS4V 14"PV14 4x86 5x86 Pentium mother boards Manuf by >>>fica.com and mtiusa.com Ess tech. 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All the above are to the highest bidder, first come first served. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!demos!Gamma.RU!srcc!news.phys.msu.su!news.free.net!jupiter.nic.dtag.de!news.mediahaus.de!news From: piers@ilink.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: Re: Imagine Series II X-Nntp-Posting-Host: wodev.mediahaus.de Message-ID: Sender: news@mediahaus.de (News System) Reply-To: piers@iqweb.de Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) References: Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:32:39 GMT Lines: 39 In article herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) writes: > I have placed an order for an Number Nine Imagine 128 Series II video > card with 4 megs of VRAM. According to NeXTAnswers, the series II is > not yet supported by the 4.0 drivers, and the new release was > apparently scheduled for Q3 96. Ask_Next warns against using this > beta which John Kheit (Thanks John!) pointed out to me in the ftp > archives: > > > ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_I nformation/Drivers/3.3_Drivers/Beta/2488_Number9Imagine128S2DisplayDriv er DriverKit in 4.x is still 3.3 (that's why you need 3.3 to develop 4.x drivers!), so every 3.3 driver should work under 4.x. I've been using the Number Nine Imagine 128 Series II video card with 4 megs of VRAM with the mentioned beta driver for almost a month now, both under 3.3 and 4.1. Unfortunately, my board was too blurry (not a driver problem, this was a problem under Windows as well), so I returned it and am currently waiting for the replacement board (having to resort to a measly ATI 2 MB video card in the meantime). Regards Piers -- -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =- Piers Uso Walter ilink GmbH piers@ilink.de -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ethernet,serial or parallel to localtalk? Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:39:01 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: <32fa8b0f.22079927@news.zocalo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk Lines: 21 In article <32fa8b0f.22079927@news.zocalo.com> mgr@aggroup.com (Michael Russell) writes: > On 3 Feb 1997 13:17:58 GMT, svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: > > >Any way to get my ix86 box to connect with a printer via its a > >localtalk connector? > > you can use Farallon's PhoneNet > This costs money, though > > One such solution is to connect to the printer via its serial port - However this may be slow, as they (well mine!) only support 9600 baud. Alternative cheap solution - if you've got a Mac, conmnect it to the localtalk (obviously). You can then connect the mac via tcp to the NeXT and run lpdemon on the Mac. Ideally you'd connect the Mac to NeXT via ether, but that cost money - VERY cheap solution is to use PPP. The NeXT is still talking to the printer via its serial line, but you can now put the speed up. $am #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!bristol.st.com!news From: rji@puma.inmos.co.uk (Richard Ingram) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sun Mono/8bit/Colour on NeXTStation ? Date: 07 Feb 1997 15:02:18 +0000 Organization: Scarlet Score For Mescalero Lines: 16 Sender: rji@puma.inmos.co.uk Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: puma.bri.st.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Hi, Got the chance of picking up a cheap NeXTStation, except the shipping cost of the monitor to from US -> Europe. So I was wondering if the old Sun Mono or 8 bit greyscale Philips/Hitachi monitors can be used on mono NeXT's or the 19" Sony colour monitors on colour NeXT boxes ? Any info would be helpful (mail direct/post newsgroup), Thanks, Richard. rji@bristol.st.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dimension Board, does it capture video Date: 7 Feb 1997 08:10:13 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 14 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dfk55$96@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> Reply-To: mpaque@wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: octans33.wco.com In article <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> cybobob@mindspring.com (Nicholas Sharpe) writes: > I was looking at www.orb.com and under a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube, it > says "video in/out". Does this mean I can watch tv and capture video > from a vcr? If so, what format can I save the movie as? The ND board can display live video on it's display, and can capture still frames, which are saved as TIFF files. The NeXTTV demo app supports these operations. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoevere it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!news.mindlink.net!news From: Jay Thorne Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.dcom.lans.misc Subject: Re: Ethernet,serial or parallel to localtalk? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 09:01:45 -0800 Organization: The Net Result Lines: 37 Message-ID: <32FB5FF9.60593A29@result.com> References: <5d4oi6$ns0@goofy.snet.net> <32fa8b0f.22079927@news.zocalo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: line085.nwm.mindlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.28 i586) To: Michael Russell Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware:22300 comp.sys.next.hardware:27073 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:63396 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking:17182 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85776 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm:25421 comp.os.linux.hardware:69650 comp.dcom.lans.misc:7932 Michael Russell wrote: > > On 3 Feb 1997 13:17:58 GMT, svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: > > >Any way to get my ix86 box to connect with a printer via its a > >localtalk connector? I have standard serial, paralled ports as well > >as 10Base-2 ethernet card any of which could be used. If not possible > >with current resources, any inexpensive cards that can be purchased to > >do the trick? Do you have an ethernet mac? if you do, you can use it to be the bridge. Here's what I did: I installed Apple's laserwriter bridge software, and patched it so it worked on Open Transport (patch is in info-mac somewhere). Then I got the latest version of netatalk (1.4b2), and configured papd/lpd to talk to the printer. It took a restart to get netatalk seeing the right appletalk zones, and I had to make sure the ascii->postscript filter was working right, but lpr -h works perfectly now, even from Netscape. If you can find the card, Linux 2.1.25 now supports localtalk cards. I have not used it though. I used the farallon cards on some client sites, and they work ok, though like appletalk in general, its not terribly fast. On more "full" ix86 boxen, the lack of settable interrrupts on the early cards was a bit of a pain. I betcha you could get one of those cards from the used/refurb dealers (Like Shreve Systems in Shreveport LA) Last but not least is an actual hardware router. Eeewww. They want actual $$$ for these things. Cheapest one I saw was from Asante, only allows PAP thru for up to 4 printers, $300 or less. -- Jay Thorne, mailto:jay@result.com http://net.result.com the Net Result System Services #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!mongol.sasknet.sk.ca!io.innovplace.saskatoon.sk.ca!grover.SEDSystems.ca!beeton From: Gary Beeton Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:22:05 -0600 Organization: Innovation Place Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.sedsystems.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24449 comp.os.linux.hardware:69661 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26706 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26950 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123638 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24414 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98759 comp.sys.next.hardware:27074 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27171 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44445 On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Jerry wrote: > scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) wrote: > > >If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > >PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > >drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > >know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > > That nice, but if you look at the web auctions and newsgroups, the > best deals are 1GB at about $100 a gigabyte. That seems to be the > going rate. I've been looking for a drive for a few weeks now. The best web auction/newsgroup deals I've seen are about $200/GB for used or refurbished drives. Where have you seen better? -- Gary Beeton -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!mongol.sasknet.sk.ca!io.innovplace.saskatoon.sk.ca!grover.SEDSystems.ca!beeton From: Gary Beeton Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:39:45 -0600 Organization: Innovation Place Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.sedsystems.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24451 comp.os.linux.hardware:69668 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26708 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:26951 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123640 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24416 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98761 comp.sys.next.hardware:27075 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27172 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44449 On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Keith Wiley wrote: > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean > come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a > break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the > transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. > That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just > gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. The fellow I talked to at PCGenerations was very helpfull when I called to enquire. I was told that all of the blowout priced drives are new OEM surplus 3.5inch internal IDE and of recent technology. Most drive have 3 month waranty (upgradable to 1 year for a fee). The 1.6GB Maxtor that I was interested in is a 7000 series drive (*full* specs are available on the Maxtor web site). What more information could you possibly want for heaven's sake :) I have no affiliation to PCGenerations. -- Gary Beeton -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!cs1.FTA-Berlin.de!gmdtub!stern.fokus.gmd.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!noc.van.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Message-ID: <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> Date: 28 Jan 97 22:08:38 GMT References: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 >At MacWorld Expo SF I came across an ergonomic mouse made by Contour, comes >in three sizes and left/right hand versions. I'm using a large left with my >NeXTstation (ADB). I've been using one of these along with my Kenisis keyboard now for several months. The difference in having a properly sized mouse and properly shaped is amazing. Contours now come in 4 sizes, and left/right hands, and are available in PS2, ADB and SUN configurations. Definately worth the $50 or so for one. Its great to have the same mouse on all my different hardware boxes. :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac Mouse Date: 7 Feb 1997 10:39:05 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 19 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dfss9$5j7@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5cp1ts$1ld0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: mpaque@wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: volans141.wco.com In article <5cp1ts$1ld0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) writes: > Can a non-ADB mouse be connected to the ADB system? > You can use the older NeXT keyboard and mouse with an ADB NeXT system, if you also replace the Sound Box (or monitor sound card for mono systems) with the non-ADB version. The sound card (which contains the keyboard connector), keyboard, and mouse need to be changed as a set. Turbo hardware owners with non-ADB keyboards and mice MAY be able to use ADB hardware, if they have both a later model ROM (v3.3 74 or later recommended) and a late model cable between the CPU and Sound Box/Monitor (which has the extra conductor for ADB signalling). Of course, they'll need the ADB Sound Box or Monitor, and ADB keyboard and mice. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoevere it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.170.183.55!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Mono/8bit/Colour on NeXTStation ? Date: 7 Feb 1997 19:13:33 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5dfust$e1h@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: carnot.physics.purdue.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) rji@puma.inmos.co.uk (Richard Ingram) wrote: >So I was wondering if the old Sun Mono or 8 bit greyscale Philips/Hitachi >monitors can be used on mono NeXT's or the 19" Sony colour monitors on colour >NeXT boxes ? We tried some Sun monitors on a Turbo Color slab here and couldn't get them to work. Somebody has a cable to hook up a PC monitor, and it ought to be easy to get one of those that'll scan at the right rate these days (though I know it's not as cheap as using something you've already got!). You just need to find a monitor that'll scan at the right rate. Some Sun monitors might work, but the Sony ones we had didn't. ab #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.174.65.41!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!03-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.tuwien.ac.at!bertl From: Norbert Heger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: increase the vertical refresh rate Date: 6 Feb 1997 12:03:40 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5dchas$af0@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5da68l$7ju@news.tuwien.ac.at> Reply-To: Norbert Heger NNTP-Posting-Host: edvtsma16.tuwien.ac.at Originator: bertl@gemini Khanh P. Nguyen wrote: > We use MatroxMilennium (8MB) > ... > Another thing with the driver (we think that it's a bug in the > driver) is something after rebooting the machine, the horizontal > frequency is doubled ... The only thing we can do in such a > situation is power off the machine, wait for 5 minutes ... and > reboot it again I have to deal with the same problem using a MatroxMilennium (4MB). I also have to boot my machine twice when it was powered down for a while (e.g. over night). The first boot NEVER works. The second time it works nearly always, but I'm waiting only for a few seconds after powering off. Maybe you shouldn't wait that long (5 minutes). > All hints are appreciated. I'm also waiting for a fixed driver - or any hints... - N.C. _________________________________________________________________ Norbert C. Heger NEXTSTEP / OpenStep Software Development NeXTmail preferred, MIME is welcome Please finger for PGP public key #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Improving image on Next Monochrome monitor Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:11:17 GMT References: <5dddpp$eck@cnn.princeton.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 19 In article <5dddpp$eck@cnn.princeton.edu>, Timothy Van Zandt wrote: >I have one of those dim NeXT monochrome monitors. >Following some instructions posted to this group a few >years back, I increased the white level to its max setting, >which brightened things up a bit. A new problem is that images >ghost hirozontally (dark images cast light `shadows' towards >the right). This is a common phenomenon in some CRTs, although I wouldn't trust myself to explain its cause exactly. I don't think there's much you can do for your monitor short of either getting a new tube or finding someone with a "zapitator" to fix it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Sun Mono/8bit/Colour on NeXTStation ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:13:20 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 22 In article , Richard Ingram wrote: >Hi, > >Got the chance of picking up a cheap NeXTStation, except the shipping cost >of the monitor to from US -> Europe. > >So I was wondering if the old Sun Mono or 8 bit greyscale Philips/Hitachi >monitors can be used on mono NeXT's or the 19" Sony colour monitors on colour >NeXT boxes ? > Other brands of colour monitors can be used on colour systems, provided you have the Sound Box to connect the keyboard/mouse, etc. However, you're pretty much stuck for mono machines. On these machines the guts of the keyboard, mouse, and audio interfaces are in the monitor. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!noris.net!shinto!news From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: NeXTstation won't power down Message-ID: Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org X-Image-Url: ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/Images/People/tomi.shinto.nbg.sub.org.tiff Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:00:05 GMT Lines: 35 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25254 comp.sys.next.hardware:27082 Hi, since almost 2 month the behavior of one NeXTstation Turbo (NS 3.3/Patched) is getting stranger. I know that a system ofter refused to shut down if there are some zombie processes which can not be killed or refuse to die. (e.g. an ungracefully interrupted printer driver oft was the cause on my machine) But on this particular machine the behaviors seem to result from something different. When you power off the machine - it refuses to do so - you go into NNI and power it off with "brute" force - the system reboots and does its "fsck" - you power it of from the loginpanel rigth away (without login into the system to launch any other processes). - ...and it will again refuse to power of ??? I just don't understand that. While this usually happened seldomly (and we blamed it on the printer driver)...it now happens more often. Still unpredictable when it will happen, but it happens even when no communication with any serial port has happene (neither modem nor printer) Is this a software issue or a hardware thing (low battery ??) I seriously don't know how to explain this behaviour to my "customer". Any help is appreciated. Aloha Tomi #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news1.best.com!miwok!pixar!usenet From: Damir Frkovic Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Trouble with NeXT 17" monitor... Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 11:52:55 -0800 Organization: Pixar Lines: 15 Message-ID: <32FB8817.2C67@pixar.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pablo.pixar.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) My 17' NeXT (FIMI) monitor is showing some strange and distressing symptoms. When I first turn it on it makes a high pitched buzzing noise and the image is all garbled and streaky but only in the horizontal direction. After a few minutes as the monitor warms up the noise goes away and the screen becomes more visible as a double image which slowly merges and settles down into a normal display. After its warm, the screen looks fine, however this strange warm-up process is getting longer and longer every time I turn the monitor on and off, I suspect it will eventually just not work anymore. Anybody have any ideas or experience with this problem? Any info would be most appreciated. damir@pixar.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!ames!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 6 Feb 1997 12:23:57 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5dcigt$1jv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: acubed.mgmt.purdue.edu They might just bloody well finish the web page before you go advertising it. Nothing - except for the hard drive blowout - appears to be clickable....even though it clearly will be when somebody gets around to it.....putting out web pages and advertising them before they are done is just plain annoying. Keith Wiley writes > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean > come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a > break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the > transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. > That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just > gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. > > . . .. ... ..... ........ ............. ..................... > .. ... ..... ....... ........... ............. ................. > . .. .... ........ ................ ................................ > Keith Wiley, Electrogenetic Engineer * > University of Maryland at College Park * * * * * * > email: keithw@wam.umd.edu *** ** * * ** * > world wide web: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~keithw * ** ** *** > > > On 5 Feb 1997, Steven C. Slawin wrote: > > > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > > > > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!bal-md6-17.ix.netcom.com!user From: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help adding external drive Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 18:51:10 -0500 Organization: Integrated Wellness Systems Lines: 29 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bal-md6-17.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Feb 07 5:47:54 PM CST 1997 Hi All. I attached a Mac SCSI external drive to my NeXT Station. It is part of a chain that includes a Zip drive and a CD-ROM. Each have unique ids as follows: Zip #5 CD-ROM #2 Ext SCSI Drive #6 When the SCSI is turned on and I boot the NeXT, I receive the following: Booting SCSI Target 0, LUN 0 Bad Version ox45520200 Bad Version oxo Bad Version oxo Bad Version oxo Bad Label Next> From there, being totally new to this, I am lost. I can power it down, turn off the external drive, and it powers up just fine. BTW--the external drive is terminated. It was formatted for Mac. Any help? Thanks, John Byrne #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!60.phoenix-001.az.dial-access.att.net!user From: yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Question about memory configuration Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 14:18:56 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.168.60 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:56869 comp.sys.next.hardware:27086 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16313 comp.sys.next.misc:25002 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25255 I have a Next Turbo Color computer with 16MB (2 8MB SIMMs) of memory. I want to upgrade it to 64MB. - Should I get 2 32MB SIMMs and take off the 2 8MB SIMMs? or - Do I need to get 4 16MB SIMMS? Carlos. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews3.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: Dean Reece Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Imagine Series II Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 13:09:54 -0800 Organization: JavaSoft Lines: 44 Message-ID: <32FB9A22.630F@eng.sun.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cocacola.eng.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) Piers Uso Walter wrote: > > In article > herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) writes: > > I have placed an order for an Number Nine Imagine 128 Series II video > > card with 4 megs of VRAM. According to NeXTAnswers, the series II is > > not yet supported by the 4.0 drivers, and the new release was > > apparently scheduled for Q3 96. Ask_Next warns against using this > > beta which John Kheit (Thanks John!) pointed out to me in the ftp > > archives: > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_I > nformation/Drivers/3.3_Drivers/Beta/2488_Number9Imagine128S2DisplayDriv > er > > DriverKit in 4.x is still 3.3 (that's why you need 3.3 to develop 4.x > drivers!), so every 3.3 driver should work under 4.x. Warning, this is NOT true! There are drivers that are NOT cross compatible, and installing them will hose your system badly. Particularly the EISABus driver (and the other bus drivers). These drivers have much more intimate knowledge of the kernel than is provided by driverKit, so remember: Always use a driver of the same major version as the kernel If one is not available, then only try a different version if you: a) ... know the driver is not needed for a rescue operation (*Bus, PS2Keyboard, perhaps Floppy) b) ... have backups of your configuration & drivers c) ... know how to restore these backups from single-user mode In many cases (i.e., video) booting "config=Default" will get you to the point that you can run Configure.app, but remember that replacing any driver in your default configuration could render this useless. All this being said, Piers' comment is basically correct. 3.3 Drivers are generally safe to use on 4.x - just be warned that there are some very nasty exceptions. Best of luck! -Dean #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!compuserve.com!news.compuserve.com!not-for-mail From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What type of RAM in Nextstation Turbo? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:56:01 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 7 Message-ID: <32F9E2F2.4156@gcomm.com> References: <5daqc8$s20@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: dd47-148.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) Hi! I have the same question regarding RAM type. I have a Nextstation with only 24 MB of RAM and I would like to upgrade to 64 MB. My nexstation has 4 sockets of 72 pins. Can I use memory from my PC and install it on to the next? TIA Amando Blasco #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu!user From: rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 18:00:52 -0500 Organization: HHDEV Computing Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu X-Authinfo-User: rmd103@psu.edu X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27089 comp.sys.next.software:27934 Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? Any information would be appreciated. Sincere thanks, -Ron #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!not-for-mail From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:22:30 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5dgdfm$o98$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: Reply-To: jrudd@cygnus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: arcadia.cygnus.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(s) Cc: rmd103@psu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27090 comp.sys.next.software:27937 In RM DAscenzo wrote: > Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected > when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? > Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the > WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult > is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Sincere thanks, > -Ron > the Next web page has good info. Go to www.next.com, click on openstep, click on "products" on the left margin, then click on "openstep for mach". Down at the bottom of THAT page is the hardware compatability guides and driver listings. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!192.35.48.11!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!murdoch!usenet From: Stephan Prock Subject: External Hard Drive X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ara-mac-230.itc.virginia.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32FBEECB.6A19@virginia.edu> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Virginia References: <32F3A5F1.6171@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:11:07 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Lines: 6 How can I determine which external hard drives will be compatible with my NeXT Turbostation. I'm interested in the APS Q 1280 by I'm not sure about the "Fireball TM mechanism." Any info would be greatly appreciated. S. Prock #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.245.3.50!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: leivian@primenet.com (Bob Leivian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz formated size Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:02:04 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5dh4ss$ekr@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: @198.68.46.33 (leivian) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I just added a Jaz drive to my next, it works fine but I had a question I reformated the 1 gig drive from a PC filesystem to a NeXT file system and mounted it, 'df' said size=998 meg, but the browser said only 877 meg was available when the disk was empty I shouldn't complain because I was living with only 250 meg before but... is this normal, was a partition reserved for a bootable disk swap area where did that 121 meg go #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!not-for-mail From: Bob Cook Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Question about memory configuration Date: 07 Feb 1997 17:54:04 -0800 Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Lines: 14 Message-ID: <2rd8ucvz9f.fsf@rhea.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: rhea.slac.stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) writes: > I have a Next Turbo Color computer with 16MB (2 8MB SIMMs) of memory. I > want to upgrade it to 64MB. > - Should I get 2 32MB SIMMs and take off the 2 8MB SIMMs? or > - Do I need to get 4 16MB SIMMS? What I did in almost the same circumstances was to get 2 32MB SIMMs and keep the 2 8MB ones. I now run with 80MB. -- Bob Cook (415) 926-2769 bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center PGP public key: ftp://ftp.slac.stanford.edu/pgp/bobcook/bobcook.publickey #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!news.socketis.net!news From: "James A. Meyer" Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hard Subject: Forsale Pentium 120 MHz Date: 8 Feb 1997 05:20:41 GMT Organization: SOCKET Internet Services INN Site Lines: 1 Message-ID: <01bc1576$49cfa340$c15ef2cd@jammeyer> NNTP-Posting-Host: jc053.socketis.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:23309 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:63496 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24495 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:17203 comp.sys.next.hardware:27094 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27191 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44468 Pentium 120 with heat sink and fan. $150 or best offer. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.enteract.com!news From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 8 Feb 1997 05:10:46 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: belial-16.d.enteract.com In-Reply-To: <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20008-01 Are you certain that the IBM DORS-32160 supports asynchronous SCSI transfer? Every recent IBM drive I've inquired about seems not to support asynch... >In <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> Yi Liu wrote: >> In <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Narendra Batra wrote: > >> > > Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a >> Nextstation >> > > running NS 3.2 ? > >> >> In NS3.3, this drive (2.1GB version, right?) will be taken care of >> automagically by BuildDisk.app. For NS3.2, you will need add a >> /etc/disktab entry, here's one from Timothy Van Zandt (snip) -- Kevin Coffee d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.enteract.com!news.he.net!news.iquest.net!not-for-mail From: Ivar Eitr-Drengr Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MTech R528 board and MMX ? Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 04:31:26 -0500 Organization: IQuest Internet, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <32FC47ED.3BB6@iquest.net> References: <32f214d4.11683182@news.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: laf-0000-21.iquest.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------73B5BB1518B0" X-Sender: Ivar Eitr-Drengr (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) X-Priority: Normal Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2482 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:131497 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85843 comp.sys.next.hardware:27096 ------------73B5BB1518B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes it does support MMX . Look here http://www.mtiusa.com/p5.htm Later Ivar ------------73B5BB1518B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Yes it does support MMX .  Look here  http://www.mtiusa.com/p5.htm
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------------73B5BB1518B0-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!insync!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.66.12.35!news-in.iadfw.net!usenet From: liuyi@crystalball.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 8 Feb 1997 08:07:58 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5dhc8u$oke@library.airnews.net> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> Reply-To: liuyi@crystalball.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp11.crystalball.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: me@nextbox.enteract.com In <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> Kevin Coffee wrote: > Are you certain that the IBM DORS-32160 supports asynchronous SCSI > transfer? > > Every recent IBM drive I've inquired about seems not to support > asynch... I don't know, but it's working in my Cube. :) I'm pretty sure that the DORS-32160 (aka Ultrastar ES) supports async mode, and there was a guy who was using the 7200rpm drive (Ultrastar XP) in his NeXT Cube. I've read about IBM's async problems in the FAQ and these groups, but those drives that have this problem aren't the Ultrastar ES. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII} #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!serra.unipi.it!sv8.ictp.trieste.it!mac-shiekh.ictp.trieste.it!user From: shiekh@ictp.trieste.it (Andy Shiekh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 13:43:53 +0200 Organization: ICTP Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mac-shiekh.ictp.trieste.it Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24510 comp.os.linux.hardware:69748 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26771 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:27000 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123724 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24441 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98888 comp.sys.next.hardware:27098 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27197 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44472 In article , Keith Wiley wrote: > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. It says IDE #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.enteract.com!news From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 8 Feb 1997 15:26:20 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5di5us$qj2@eve.enteract.com> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> <5dhc8u$oke@library.airnews.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: beelzebub-41.d.enteract.com In-Reply-To: <5dhc8u$oke@library.airnews.net> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20008-01 Emprirical evidence is frequently the best ;-) FWIW, I called a reseller to ask about that model just last week and they didn't know. I also called IBM tech support and the person who answered the phone didn't know either. (I found that DeskStarXP - aka DPES-31080 - does not, but only after I'd bought one.) otherwise the DORS-32160 has great specs... -Kevin On 02/07/97, Yi Liu wrote: >In <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> Kevin Coffee wrote: >> Are you certain that the IBM DORS-32160 supports asynchronous >SCSI >> transfer? >> >> Every recent IBM drive I've inquired about seems not to support >> asynch... > >I don't know, but it's working in my Cube. :) > >I'm pretty sure that the DORS-32160 (aka Ultrastar ES) supports >async mode, and there was a guy who was using the 7200rpm drive >(Ultrastar XP) in his NeXT Cube. > >I've read about IBM's async problems in the FAQ and these groups, >but those drives that have this problem aren't the Ultrastar ES. > >liuyi >-- >Realife: Liu, Yi {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII} -- Kevin Coffee d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!serv.hinet.net!netnews.hinet.net!news From: chsu@from.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Send 20 FREE Pages of Fax to any Fax machines in the World! 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Visit the site at: http://www.edfax.com/faxsav.htm Chris Sundres chsu@from.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5dijoq$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Date: 8 Feb 1997 20:05:49 GMT Control: cancel <5dijoq$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Message-ID: Sender: chsu@from.net X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.emi.com!news.NH.Destek.Net!mozart.jlc.net!usenet From: jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cheapest Laptop for NS? Date: 8 Feb 1997 22:41:35 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5divev$921@mozart.jlc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: meacham.jlc.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Hi All, I'm considering buying a 486 laptop to run NS. I've got a turbo color on my desk, and I'm getting sick of doing conversions from stuff on my Mac Powerbook. Does anyone know what the least expensive intel NS compatible laptop is? Doesn't even have to be color, really, just greyscale would be OK Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Peace, James -- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center, NH e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) 603-654-2248(fax) Church Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/index.html Personal Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/jameshome.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news-out.communique.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.179.156.40!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <32fcdb99.0@news.cias.net> Date: 8 Feb 1997 20:43:35 GMT Control: cancel <32fcdb99.0@news.cias.net> Message-ID: Sender: xxxhot@*(^$#>(noreply).com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!argonet.co.uk!argba44 From: Mike Curtis Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 22:06:02 GMT Organization: ArgoNet, but does not reflect its views Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> Reply-To: Mike Curtis NNTP-Posting-Host: ak056.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: NewsAgent 0.84 for RISC OS Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24534 comp.os.linux.hardware:69789 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26811 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:27027 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123761 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24460 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:98951 comp.sys.next.hardware:27102 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27205 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44487 In article , Gary Beeton wrote: > I've been looking for a drive for a few weeks now. The best web > auction/newsgroup deals I've seen are about $200/GB for used or > refurbished drives. Where have you seen better? You might try contacting David Holden at APDL, info@apdl.co.uk Some months ago I bought an Acorn formatted 1Gb IBM SCSI2 drive (OK, not brand new but close) from him for 155UKP which at the time was a bloody good price. -- _____ _ |_ _|__ _ __ | | ____ _ tonka@argonet.co.uk | |/ _ \| '_ \| |/ / _` | Mike Curtis, ZFC A, Chester | | (_) | | | | < (_| | New year's resolution:- |_|\___/|_| |_|_|\_\__,_| Failed - Doh! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!news From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to Get NS/Black + CD-ROM drive + SCSI adapter? Date: 9 Feb 1997 03:17:14 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5djfjq$k4t@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> References: Reply-To: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.bae.ncsu.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:16328 comp.sys.next.hardware:27103 In Ishir Bhan wrote: .... > Ideally, I'd like to get OpenStep/Mach 4.1, but I really don't want to > spend much money on it. Is there anywhere to get it for less than $300? > I just got the academic package Openstep 4.1 for Intel (User/dev/EOF) for $299 from Optimal Object: 1-800-452-7608. I see from your address the you are at academia so I think you can get it too. Rafa #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!van-bc!n1van.istar!van.istar!west.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!n4tor.istar!news3.idirect.com!oasis.idirect.com!vertigonet5.idirect.com Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: fishbone@inforamp.net (nobody@home) Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsmaster: Laszlo Herczeg (las@idirect.com) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 X-No-Archive: yes X-Client-Port: 1499 Message-ID: <32fe6edc.4984183@news2.compulink.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: oasis.idirect.com Date: 9 Feb 97 06:31:20 UTC Lines: 21 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:131676 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85925 comp.sys.next.hardware:27104 On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:07:34 GMT, Marcel Stegehuis wrote: >Matt Kauffman wrote: >> >> If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a >> P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board >> compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. >> >> MMK >> -- >> just another human resource >Well than. Imagine I already have a P166 (say normal as far as that good >be). Can I just put in a P166 MMX. Do I need a bios upgrade ? >-- > Unfortunately NO. This is because of the voltage on the new MMX chips. They are 2.8 volts so it means either getting a new motherboard or buying a voltage regulator. AVortex #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 07:21:03 -0600 From: okrina@cybertron.at Subject: WTB: NeXT-Station Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Message-ID: <855494130.1152@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Feb 09 13:15:30 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 194.152.170.198 () X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.0; Windows 95) via Squid Cache version 1.0.11 X-Authenticated-Sender: okrina@cybertron.at Lines: 8 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27105 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16332 Hi! I am searching for a NeXT-station/Mono Please make it affordable and send your offers to okrina@cybertron.at -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!news From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Can I use EDO RAM in NeXT turbo Date: 9 Feb 1997 15:26:38 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5dkqbe$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm283-13.dialip.mich.net X-MSUnetID: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Hallo, we ordered 32MB Simms (70ns) for our NeXT turbo ADB systems. Two of the chips that arrived are labeled as EDO RAM. Can those be used in the ADB NeXTstation Turbo? I think not, I just want some other experiences and opinions, if possible. Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!news From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXT monitor on PowerMac Date: 9 Feb 1997 15:58:14 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5dks6m$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm283-13.dialip.mich.net X-MSUnetID: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Hallo, how difficult is it to use the NeXT color monitor (black hardware) on a PowerMac? We've heard some info about connecting it to an Intel PC [*1], but the NeXTapple [*2] merger makes the PowerMac hardware platform more interesting than before. Thanks, Rudy ----- *1 where are the times when these were called IBM PC's ... *2 aka MacMach or OpenApple [you noticed the missing bite in the Apple's logo, right?] :-))) -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news From: Jason Lincoln Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXTstation Resolution? Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 11:00:39 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Lines: 5 Message-ID: <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsxy014b-ppp-14.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Can I change the resolution displyed by my NeXTstation Mono? Thanks, Jason #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!news.grolier.fr!usenet From: Eric Levenez Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 8 Feb 1997 19:45:04 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5dil40$slu@news.grolier.fr> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-207-148.neuilly.club-internet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) wrote: >In article <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> "William J. Mittelstadt" > writes: >> Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a Nextstation >> running NS 3.2 ? > >I am also thinking of buying this disk and install it as second hard >drive. Any suggestions to avoid any pitfalls will be greatly appreciated. I am using an "IBM DFRSS4F Rev 4B4B", a 4GB drive for several months. It works fine in external. I can't make it works *inside* my slab. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 -------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!centauri.hq.nasa.gov!newsfeed.gsfc.nasa.gov!cs.umd.edu!hecate.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!usenet From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64M Ram and NS system panic? Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 15:50:53 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 34 Message-ID: <32FE38A3.4BA@wam.umd.edu> References: <5d6btl$6vn@worak.kaist.ac.kr> Reply-To: dutky@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: annex9-10.dial.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) My Account wrote: > slot 1 EDO > slot 2 EDO System Panic > slot 3 Normal > slot 4 Normal > > slot 1 Normal > slot 2 Normal System Panic > slot 3 EDO > slot 4 EDO > > slot 1 Normal > slot 2 EDO System Panic > slot 3 Normal > slot 4 EDO > > slot 1 EDO > slot 2 EDO No problem.. > slot 3 Vacant > slot 4 Vacant > > slot 1 Normal > slot 2 Normal No problem > slot 3 Vacant > slot 4 Vacant > If you notice, all the panics occur when you try to mix EDO and normal ram. I suspect that your motherboard cannot handle both EDO and normal DRAM at the same time. RAM is cheap, get another bank of EDO or normal DRAM and install the same kind of RAM in all four banks. - Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help: Can I use EDO RAM in NeXT turbo Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:01:51 GMT References: <5dkqbe$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article <5dkqbe$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: >Hallo, > we ordered 32MB Simms (70ns) for our NeXT turbo ADB systems. Two of the >chips that arrived are labeled as EDO RAM. > >Can those be used in the ADB NeXTstation Turbo? I think not, I just want some >other experiences and opinions, if possible. > Should be fine. EDO works just like non-EDO RAM if the hardware doesn't take advantage of its "EDO-ness". -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Q: NeXTstation Resolution? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:18:18 GMT References: <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 12 In article <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com>, Jason Lincoln wrote: >Can I change the resolution displyed by my NeXTstation Mono? > No, you can't. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.enteract.com!news From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: daydream and colorspace? Date: 10 Feb 1997 04:24:17 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5dm7th$p6b@eve.enteract.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: belial-38.d.enteract.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20008-01 I'm using Quix's daydream on a (recently acquired) Turbo Color and have run into problems with Photoshop. It appears that the color space is not mapping properly - images do not display properly and the colorspace 'picker' does not display the expected color wheel model (for hue, saturation and value). I'm not sure exactly what is being represented by the picker, but it doesn't look like an RGB model. Q: what is the latest rev of the daydream software? (the info panel reports that this is 2.1.1) Q: is it compatible with Photoshop 3.x? thanks, -Kevin -- Kevin Coffee d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: NeXTstation Resolution? Date: 10 Feb 1997 04:26:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dm82a$lkn@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> References: <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: scz-ca16-09.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Feb 09 8:26:50 PM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > In article <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com>, > Jason Lincoln wrote: > >Can I change the resolution displyed by my NeXTstation Mono? > > > > No, you can't. This is true if additional resolution is desired, but less resolution used to be configurable (haven't tried to do this recently). When NS/Intel was first released and common screen resolution dropped to 1024x768, we set our black hardware to run at 1024x768 to see how our large windows looked at that resolution. This was done by setting the bounds property in NetInfo: % nidump -r /localconfig/screens/MegaPixel /nextcube name = MegaPixel; _writers = "*"; active = 0; bounds = "0 1120 0 832"; slot = 0; unit = 0; -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net!not-for-mail From: "Kevin P. Hannan" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:48:36 -0500 Organization: AutoSoft, Inc. Lines: 41 Message-ID: <32FEFD04.4D52@ibm.net> References: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> <5d6mqs$n6c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-78-231.ga.us.ibm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) Erik Pennebaker wrote: > > tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) writes: > > >Hi Leigh, > >In article <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh > >Smith) writes: > >> I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug > >> with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, > >> but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. It will hang > >> the kernel and the problem has been reported to both IBM and > >> Cyrix, with pathetically little response from them. I had a 6x86 > >> with repeatable kernel hangs that I solved by replacing with an > >> Intel CPU. At least three others have confirmed the same problem. > >> NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, > >> only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They > >> aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. > >I can confirm that too. At the end of the last year I was trying to get > >the Cyrix P166+ GP processor, revision 3.7 working with NS 3.3 and NS 4.0. > >Running OmniWeb (except 1.0) hangs the kernel so that the only solution > >for restart was hardware reset. I solved it by replacing the Cyrix with > >Intel. > > Just in case anyone wants another confirmation, me too. Omniweb throws > up a window and the whole thing freezes. Yftp froze after I left it > on overnight, and the package installer freezes sometimes to boot. > Omniweb is definite though - sure way to hose it. > I get the same with the package installer, but not all the time. This only happens with a Cyrix chip, an AMD still seems fine. Not only do the apps cause a panic, so does the idle OS. I get trap e, d, and 6, all randomly. -- Kevin P. Hannan Registered NeXT Developer khannan@ibm.net OS/2 Developer Technical lead - Team Sports (404) 238-7380 (w) Centennial Olympic Games (404) 303-1823 (fax) 6316 Chastain Drive, Atlanta, Ga 30342 USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news1.best.com!idiom.com!news.zocalo.net!news From: mgr@aggroup.com (Michael Russell) Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.dcom.lans.misc Subject: Re: Ethernet,serial or parallel to localtalk? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 03:48:09 GMT Organization: Zocalo - Berkeley, California, USA Lines: 19 Message-ID: <32fa8b0f.22079927@news.zocalo.com> References: <5d4oi6$ns0@goofy.snet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mike-note-book.aggroup.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware:22436 comp.sys.next.hardware:27116 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:63711 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking:17212 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:85994 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm:25472 comp.os.linux.hardware:69865 comp.dcom.lans.misc:7942 On 3 Feb 1997 13:17:58 GMT, svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: >Any way to get my ix86 box to connect with a printer via its a >localtalk connector? I have standard serial, paralled ports as well >as 10Base-2 ethernet card any of which could be used. If not possible >with current resources, any inexpensive cards that can be purchased to >do the trick? you can use Farallon's PhoneNet, which includes localtalk hardware and the necessary software to talk to a printer (as well as file sharing). This costs money, though, so if this is a home project you may want to try cheaper, but less convenient solutions. One such solution is to connect to the printer via its serial port - Apple LaserWriters have both LocalTalk and serial support, and depending on the model, may support both ports simultaneously. Older models require manual rotation of a switch on the back, 0 for localtalk, and 1 for serial. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: june@a;lkdfj.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-R Media Blowout at Low Prices Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:14:06 GMT Organization: shop Lines: 51 Message-ID: <5dnafe$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lax-ca20-13.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Feb 10 8:14:06 AM CST 1997 We have the following CD-R media for sale. 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Cordially, The Copy Cat Shop 213-650-1680 213-650-9110 Fax #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!nntp.snet.net!news.snet.net!usenet From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TGUI 9440 leaves spots Date: 10 Feb 1997 15:07:41 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5dndjt$qfn@goofy.snet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hrfr03-sh7-port152.snet.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Hello all- I have a generic Trident video card that leaves spots around the screen. I was able to disable the pci_cache_write option of XFree86 3.2 for Linux that prevented these spots. Is there a similar option for OPENSTEP 4.0? Much thanks Sven #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!esiee.fr!jussieu.fr!eurocontrol.fr!polaris.eurocontrol.fr!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: june@a;lkdfj.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:14:06 GMT Message-ID: Subject: cmsg cancel <5dnafe$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <5dnafe$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Feb 10 8:14:06 AM CST 1997 Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Approved: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr X-Cancelled-By: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Newsposter: cancel-spam version 1.19 X-no-archive: yes Lines: 9 ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Mon Feb 10 17:08:35 1997 Original subject was: CD-R Media Blowout at Low Prices #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA Date: 10 Feb 1997 16:22:53 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5dni0t$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5d78sl$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au (Gordon Slater) wrote: Hm, didn't you post about an installation problem before just a few weeks ago? Or is it just common Down Under to use inexpensive whine when doing system installs? :-) >Ended up installing NEXT STEP on an old 540MB drive as NEXT STEP >didn't like the 2GB - could have saved myself some money. Nextstep likes the 2GB ok to my knowledge - you have to partition it though. Why don't you set aside a small DOS partition, so that the rest is < 2GB. >All of sudden my monitor (IBM 2215 colour) jumped into power save >mode... No, not because I hadn't touched the machine in a while. > >More cheap and nasty white wine not-withstanding (was I standing?), I >learned that it was the Cirrus Logic video driver that was being a >very unco-operative shit and pushing the monitor into power save mode >every time NEXT STEP booted. Try booting in verbose mode: b-v If this works ok, you can later use Configure.app to set up your system so that it always boots verbose. >The stupid question arrives - Does anyone know how to get an >integrated Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA with 1MB to work? I seem to remember that you need 2MB, but I may be wrong. Check out NextAnswers from www.next.com. Maybe you can still get it to run in one of the lower resolution modes. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!usenet From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Color Monitor Repair? Date: 10 Feb 1997 17:00:51 GMT Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dnk83$mhp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Reply-To: atl2@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: dial33.cc.lehigh.edu Hello, All! My black hardware slowly approaches the inevitable end of its useful lifespan, and I do what I can to stretch it out for as many more months as possible. Perhaps someone can help me. My (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel is progressively deteriorating. Symptoms are as follows: when the ambient room temperature is below a certain threshold, a distortion appears, worse toward the middle of the screen, less severe toward the top and bottom. The image in the distorted area warps to the left, occasionally "snapping" back to true, but inevitably remaining skewed until I can bring the room temparature up for a long enough time. If this were all there was to it, I could live with the problem, but the threshold temperature keeps rising, until now I must keep my office at a sweltering 82 F (27 C). Now, I know it's possible to replace these things, but I'm reluctant to shell out radical cash if that can be avoided. Since I have a grounding strip, a soldering iron, and little to lose, I wonder if anyone can give me a hint as to whether this is simply a loose contact I can re-flow, and if so, where I might find it? Please respond by email if you can. Regards, Alex ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.28.134.7!news.cybercom.net!shell1.cybercom.net!not-for-mail From: devine@shell1.cybercom.net (Steven J. Devine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 10 Feb 1997 13:56:22 -0500 Organization: Cyber Access Internet Communications, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5dnr0m$cv6@shell1.cybercom.net> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell1.cybercom.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24613 comp.os.linux.hardware:69926 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26914 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:27111 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123911 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24506 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:99142 comp.sys.next.hardware:27121 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27238 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44525 In article , Gary Beeton wrote: >> That nice, but if you look at the web auctions and newsgroups, the >> best deals are 1GB at about $100 a gigabyte. That seems to be the >> going rate. > >I've been looking for a drive for a few weeks now. The best web >auction/newsgroup deals I've seen are about $200/GB for used or >refurbished drives. Where have you seen better? I just purchased a 3.2 GB IBM EIDE drive from Compustar of Framingham, MA over the weekend for $275 at the KGP Computer shows (www.pcshow.com). Generally, $100/GB is the going rate right now. -- Steve -------- Steven J. Devine, Client/Server Development Consultant ------- ------------------------- devine@cybercom.net ------------------------- ------------------- http://www.cybercom.net/~devine ------------------- - Look here for the Unofficial Web Page for Star and Hudson Speedways - #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!news.u.washington.edu!saul4.u.washington.edu!kjaeros From: Ray Stricklin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Contributing to the NeXT FAQs Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:10:34 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Lines: 31 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: saul4.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros Predicate: Whose triangle is it? X-use-a-newsreader-for-news: I have an addition I'd like to submit to have added to the NeXT Hardware Peripheral FAQ, but the editor's address (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) on the FAQ at Omnigroup is no longer valid. Any ideas? I've included the message I sent below. -r > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:37:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Ray Stricklin > To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu > Subject: NeXT Hardware Peripherals FAQ addition > > > (Quoted from the NeXT Hardware Peripherals FAQ) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: M26. I'm trying to initialize a QUANTUM ELS170S on a NeXTStation > and get sd2: Incomplete disk transfer? > > [From: max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu (Max Hailperin)] > > The Quantum ELSxxxS drives only work with NeXTs if they are the only > SCSI device. If alone, they work fine, but if there are other SCSI > devices you get "incomplete disk transfer" messages. > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > The Micropolis 1588-15 (660 MB, full height SCSI-II) has the same problem. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!news.u.washington.edu!saul4.u.washington.edu!kjaeros From: Ray Stricklin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:47:06 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: saul4.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros In-Reply-To: <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> Predicate: Whose triangle is it? X-use-a-newsreader-for-news: On 10 Feb 1997 jalegre@andante-systems.com wrote: > Last week a hardware engeneer at NeXT told me that all cubes need > 72-pin low profile SIMMS with a min speed of 80 and max speed set only > by $$$. He did say that anything above 100 was a waste of $$$, but he > did say that 72 pin low profile were a must. He is dreadfully confused, then. All cubes but the turbo use 100ns 30 pin low-profile SIMMs. Buying faster memory will not speed anything up. All RAM is treated as 100ns RAM. The turbo is the only cube to use 72 pin SIMMs, and is also the only cube whose memory system will work at the faster 70ns speed. This is all outlined very clearly in the NeXT RAM FAQ. It may be viewed at: http://www.omnigroup.com/Documentation/NEXTSTEP/FAQs/NeXT-Hardware-RAM-FAQ -r http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kjaeros -------------------------------------- [ e x l i b r i s ] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.86.32.9!skypoint.com!not-for-mail From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: 10 Feb 1997 21:18:45 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial013.skypoint.net In-Reply-To: <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00037 On 02/01/97, Art Isbell wrote: >Ann wrote: >> I'm told that industry standard 72 pinn simms will work in a >> NEXT., and this was told to me by a vendor who I guessed would have >> something to loose by telling me this in favor of selling me his own >> brand of memory specifically designed for NEXT. > > This isn't strictly true. Some NeXTstations use 72-pin SIMMs. > All 25 MHz. NeXTcubes use "industry-standard" 30-pin SIMMs. Memory > specifically designed for NeXT machines isn't required and I've > never heard of any. > Last week a hardware engeneer at NeXT told me that all cubes need 72-pin low profile SIMMS with a min speed of 80 and max speed set only by $$$. He did say that anything above 100 was a waste of $$$, but he did say that 72 pin low profile were a must. -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ############################################################### #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!mr.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!news.es.com!news From: "Jason M. Smith" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with ISDN on NeXTstation Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:51:33 -0700 Organization: Evans & Sutherland Lines: 21 Message-ID: <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rexel.corp.es.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Hi all, I recently purchased a NeXTstation package, and as part of the deal, a Hayes ISDN Extender was thrown in. I'd like to at least look into the possibility of using the station as the central hub for a PPP hookup to my work, via ISDN. A couple of questions however... 1) I don't have any documentation for the ISDN adapter. Are there any problems known with this unit? Is it simply plug 'n' play, as I suspect it to be? 2) I'm currently running NS3.0. It is my understanding that PPP is not available for 3.0, and didn't appear until 3.3. Please prove me wrong here. So far, this unit has been wonderful. This would be the icing on the cake. Thanks... -- Jason M. Smith Software Engineer 1215 S. McClelland St. 600 Komas Dr. Display Group Salt Lake, UT 84105 Salt Lake City, UT 84158 Evans & Sutherland (801) 486-2378 (H) (801) 588-7552 (W) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!demos!demos2!Gamma.RU!srcc!sovam!not-for-mail From: "M. C. Kim" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Print problem with HPLJ6MP and Mathematica 3.0 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:31:32 +0300 Organization: Bauman Moscow State Technical University Lines: 36 Message-ID: <32FF85A4.530@online.ru> Reply-To: mckim@online.ru NNTP-Posting-Host: ts2-a8.dial.sovam.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Greetings. Currently I use Mathematica 3.0 for NEXTSTEP/Mach-Intel on my pentium PC. Everytime I try to print notebooks, The following error messages are overlapped on the printed notebooks: ERROR: undefined OFFENDING COMMAND: nextdict STACK: Except the error messages above, everything works fine. I printed notebooks to postscript files and checked out and found that every .ps files generated by print command of Mathematica includes following line in their codes: nextdict /_journalRecording false put When I manually remove this line from .ps files, they printed as normal. My system configuration is like this: Pentium 133MHz 64MB EDO RAM ASUS PCI mainboard Parallel port is configured as ECP HP LaserJet 6MP with 3MB RAM MGA Millennium 8MB Would somebody help me to correct this error? Thanks in advance. Myoung-Cheol Kim Moscow, Russia mckim@online.ru http://www.online.ru/people/mckim #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!newshub.internex.net!masters0.news.internex.net!user From: henry@norr.com (Henry Norr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT monitors on Mac or PC? Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:04:49 -0800 Organization: MacWEEK Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ws5.macweek.xo.com I've seen this question asked on this group several times, but if there's ever been an answer, forgive me -- I've missed it. The question is: Is there any way to use a Next 21-inch color monitor (the kind that needs the three-headed 13W3 cable and soundbox to work with a NextStation) with a Mac or PC? I actually got hold of a cable with DB15 (Mac monitor port) at one end and 13W3 at the other. It has DIP switches for frequency settings built-in, but with 12 DIPs there are something on the order of 4K possible settings, and I haven't yet found one that works (if indeed any do). Even if you don't have a solution, I'm curious about a couple of issues with this display: What's its frequency and resolution when running on the NextStation? And what exactly is the role of the soundbox? Thanks. Henry Norr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.86.32.9!skypoint.com!not-for-mail From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted NeXT Printer. Date: 10 Feb 1997 21:20:20 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5do3ek$t5e$1@shadow.skypoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial013.skypoint.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00037 I am looking for a used black hardware NeXT 400 DPI Laser Printer. If you have one for sale please contact me asap. Retrun email or phone 612-699-3525. -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ############################################################### #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!pbrown From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 1997 04:32:42 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ashkhabad.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.8.3 (BETA) UNIX) Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much as I can without introducing more liquid. TIA. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!mr.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newstand.syr.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!humerus.mae.cornell.edu!schmidt From: schmidt@humerus.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 10 Feb 1997 22:01:16 GMT Organization: Cornell University Lines: 31 Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: humerus.mae.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Michael Taylor (mtaylor@aw.sgi.com) wrote: > MMX is a little more than that. Admittedly, you won't notice any > difference until you get software that supports it. > In most multi-media applications, the data is made up of small values. > Modern processors can do 64-bit operations, but this doesn't help much > for doing sound (mostly 16-bit values), 24-bit graphics (3 bit values > per pixel), etc. > But, what if you could use your 64-bit operations to do operations on > several smaller values at the same time (eg. do math on four 16 bit > values at once). In this case, you can get a 4 times speed increase in > processing digital sound. Unfortunately, acording to an article in Infoworld, the MMX chips are a two-state chip. The first state is floating-point, the second is the MMX state. In order to change between states, it takes on the order of 600 clock cycles. If the cpu is asked to perform MMX functions it goes through the 600 tick change. If it is subsequently asked to perform floating point calculations, another 600 ticks. All this is fine, if you are running a single-tasking OS like DOS. In any multi-tasking environment, the results become random. Although most OS functions are interger, they are not all interger. Also, there are many utility programs which will run at the same time as your MM application and those will perform floating-point calculations. Acording to Infoworld, they experienced many situations where the MMX processor actually slowed down processing. If you are running NEXTSTEP, odds are that you are combining sound and graphics, the former using the MM extensions, the latter floating point calculations. -pete #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: 10 Feb 1997 22:35:30 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5do7ri$q5r@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net>, wrote: >Last week a hardware engeneer at NeXT told me that all cubes need >72-pin low profile SIMMS with a min speed of 80 and max speed set only >by $$$. He did say that anything above 100 was a waste of $$$, but he >did say that 72 pin low profile were a must. He's wrong because my '040 cube uses 30-pin SIMMs. Turbo cubes use 72-pin SIMMs. It's all in the NeXT FAQ. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!dlow From: dlow@ppg01.sc.hp.com (Danny Low) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Date: 10 Feb 1997 23:08:36 GMT Organization: HP LOVECRAFT DIVISION Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5do9pk$bb6@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppg01.sc.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24635 comp.os.linux.hardware:69967 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:26942 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:27130 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:123935 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24514 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:99182 comp.sys.next.hardware:27132 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27249 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44543 Gary Beeton (beeton@grover.SEDSystems.ca) wrote: : The fellow I talked to at PCGenerations was very helpfull when I called : to enquire. I was told that all of the blowout priced drives are new : OEM surplus 3.5inch internal IDE and of recent technology. Most drive : have 3 month waranty (upgradable to 1 year for a fee). The 1.6GB Maxtor : that I was interested in is a 7000 series drive (*full* specs are available : on the Maxtor web site). What more information could you possibly want for : heaven's sake :) I would be very careful about who is offering the warranty. OEM warranties are to the DEALER and NOT TO USER. If the 3 month warranty is from PCGenerations to you then that is fine. If the 3 month warranty is from the factory it is useless to you. Only PCGeneration can collect on that warranty. If you try to collect it yourself, you will be told to go back to PCGeneration. Danny Low "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You" Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley HP NSD dlow@ppg01.sc.hp.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 06:28:11 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po8.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Feb-97 Re: MMX-upgrading by Peter Schmidt@humerus.ma > Unfortunately, acording to an article in Infoworld, the MMX chips are a > two-state chip. The first state is floating-point, the second is the MMX > state. In order to change between states, it takes on the order of 600 > clock cycles. If the cpu is asked to perform MMX functions it goes through > the 600 tick change. If it is subsequently asked to perform floating point > calculations, another 600 ticks. _600_? How long does it take to clear the pipeline on the Pentium MMX? If clearing the pipeline is shorter (and it should be!), why does switching from MMX to FP take so long? > All this is fine, if you are running a single-tasking OS like DOS. In any > multi-tasking environment, the results become random. Although most OS > functions are interger, they are not all integer. Also, there are many > utility programs which will run at the same time as your MM application and > those will perform floating-point calculations. Neither of these should matter. You see, you've got to clear the pipeline and save most to all of the CPU state when doing a context switch to another process or to the kernel when doing a system call, anyway. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:19:31 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk Lines: 9 In article pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) writes: > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:23:56 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk Lines: 18 In article pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) writes: > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) Why would yuou want to use any other keyboard - the oldstyle NeXTUSA's were the best! > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid. It's not the liquid as such which is necessarily the problem - it's the sugary, caffeinated bits. The water will just evaporate in time. You could do worse than immersing it in CLEAN (distilled, if you've got it) water. No solvents, or nasties - just water. Ideally you should have done this before it dried. Afterwards, make sure it dries thoruoghly (don't want any rust!), then see what happens... $an #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help adding external drive Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:02:21 GMT Lines: 39 In article byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) writes: > Hi All. > > I attached a Mac SCSI external drive to my NeXT Station. It is part of a > chain that includes a Zip drive and a CD-ROM. Each have unique ids as > follows: > > Zip #5 > CD-ROM #2 > Ext SCSI Drive #6 > > When the SCSI is turned on and I boot the NeXT, I receive the following: > > Booting SCSI Target 0, LUN 0 > Bad Version ox45520200 > Bad Version oxo > Bad Version oxo > Bad Version oxo > Bad Label > Next> > > From there, being totally new to this, I am lost. I can power it down, > turn off the external drive, and it powers up just fine. BTW--the external > drive is terminated. It was formatted for Mac. > > Any help? > Systematic error tracing! Remove every component that is thought to be no part of the problem and repeat again. My guess: cabling and/or termination. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to get the most out of 2 GB drive? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5ddu6q$6tk$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:05:51 GMT Lines: 19 In article <5ddu6q$6tk$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) writes: > > I am trying to use a 2GB disk as my boot disk and everything installed > fine but when I login the system tells me I only have a 1 GB disk. > How do I format the disk to get all the space? Thanks. > Black hardware or white? On white hardware it also could be a problem of BIOS translation. On black it is certainly the case that you forgot to insert the line for the second partition into /etc/fstab since BuildDisk.app certainly split the drive in two. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: dial91@ix.netcom.com(ROGER DIAL TONE) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: best prices Date: 11 Feb 1997 00:34:02 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5doepq$cbf@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ind-in9-07.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Feb 10 6:34:02 PM CST 1997 DINO COMPUTING 35 NORTH FOREST AVE. INDIANAPOLIS,INDIANA 46201 (317) 955-9921 E-MAIL ORDERS & QUESTIONS DIAL91@IX.NETCOM.COM PRICES AS OF 2/9/97 MODEMS: INTERNAL 33.6 W/VOICE 8-BIT $79.00 HARD DRIVES: 1.2 GB WESTERN DIGITAL IDE $205.00 2.5 GB " " IDE $264.00 3.1 GB " " IDE $305.00 MEMORY: 4 MG 72 PINN $29.00 8 MG 72 PINN $34.00 16 MG 72 PINN $75.00 MONITORS: 14" .28 SVGA NON-INTERLACED LEO $199.00 15" .28 SVGA NON-INTERLACED LEO $295.00 17" .39 DP SVGA NON-INTERLACED DIGITAL $389.00 VIDEO CARDS: 4 MG PCI MILLIUM $320.00 2 MG SVGA PCI STEALTH 64 DRAM $80.00 CHECKS,COD,MONEY ORDERS ACCEPTED #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:36:32 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 26 In article , Paul R. Brown wrote: >Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the >keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you >from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) Ouch indeed! >So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? >I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much >as I can without introducing more liquid. > Cleaning it as best you can is a good idea. Take the keycaps off (they just pull off on non-ADB keyboards--don't know about ADB) and take off the white plastic things. Try to get as much gunk off as possible. If you find a way to separate the circuit board from the keyboard assembly (I don't remember a way) then you should be able to clean the, presumably, gold fingers on the curcuit board with alcohol. Good luck! -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help with ISDN on NeXTstation Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:33:28 GMT References: <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 21 In article <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com>, Jason M. Smith wrote: >Hi all, I recently purchased a NeXTstation package, and as part of the >deal, a Hayes ISDN Extender was thrown in. I'd like to at least look >into the possibility of using the station as the central hub for a PPP >hookup to my work, via ISDN. A couple of questions however... > > 1) I don't have any documentation for the ISDN adapter. Are there any >problems known with this unit? Is it simply plug 'n' play, as I suspect >it to be? > Yes, it's plug and play, as long as you're just talking to another NeXT on the other end of the ISDN line. Both NeXTs have to be running 3.0. It does not support PPP or any other protocol other than the PhoneKit. Sorry to dash your hopes... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 97 10:27:26 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: port-11-30.access.one.net In-reply-to: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu's message of 11 Feb 1997 04:32:42 GMT In article , pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) writes: Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much as I can without introducing more liquid. Well, if it doesn't work after drying, you almost have to go with some level of immersion (I personally would rather purchase a replacement than bother trying to pop each keycap individually ...). You probably could get away with putting a half inch or so of water in a baking pan of some sort, and placing the keyboard in keycaps-down. The idea being that the water should _just_ clear the keycaps, to clean out the gunk, but not be high enough to muck with the circuit board. Perhaps you could put the keyboard in first, and then add water. Of course, that takes _some_ chances with rust. Don't leave it in the bath for long, and you probably should dry it with a heat source (hair dryer, perhaps). I suppose you could try some other solvent, such as rubbing alcohol. Though that's good for cleaning with a q-tip, I'm not so certain I'd want to immerse plastic in rubbing alcohol for any length of time. Perhaps acetone or somesuch would be better, I'm not sure. You could probably disconnect the keyboard circuitry. I can't recall whether it can be disconnected without a soldering iron, but if you're careful that shouldn't be a big problem. If you can get that off the board, it should be easy enough to clean. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!humerus.mae.cornell.edu!schmidt From: schmidt@humerus.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 11 Feb 1997 17:52:33 GMT Organization: CU-HSS Program in Biomechanical Engineering Lines: 79 Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5dqbl1$skc@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: humerus.mae.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : _600_? How long does it take to clear the pipeline on the Pentium MMX? : If clearing the pipeline is shorter (and it should be!), why does : switching from MMX to FP take so long? Sorry -- the 600 number was way off. The actual number is 50. The slowdown that I mentioned was speculative, but in the first looks at MMX machines, Infoworld says that there are no great gains -- unlike with DSP's or graphics co-processors. Here's what Infoworld [http://www.infoworld.com] has to say: --------------------------------------------------------------------- (November 1996) Operations that switch frequently between multimedia functions and floating-point arithmetic calculations will suffer a degradation in performance, said Sam Wilkie, a program manager at Intel, in Santa Clara, Calif. At the heart of the problem is the Pentium/MMX architecture. To keep the Pentium/MMX compatible with existing operating systems, Intel chose to share some aspects of floating-point and MMX functions, so the two types of instructions cannot be executed at the same time. The Pentium/MMX processor takes about 50 clock cycles to switch between MMX and floating-point modes, said Wilkie.... Most software performs dozens of MMX instructions followed by dozens of floating-point operations, or vice versa, explained Wilkie. However, software that intermixed MMX and floating-point operations on an instruction-by-instruction basis will be slowed, he said. Today, most such software is high-performance, 3D-enhanced games, according to Wilkie. [Also, in] a multitasking environment, for example, a user might be running a multimedia application in the foreground and recalculating a large spreadsheet in the background. While one program requires MMX, the other demands floating point; the time to switch between the two could slow both programs. ....Tobak explained that the Cyrix M2 processor with MMX capabilities has an instruction that switches the device between modes in one clock cycle. --------------------- In a later article: --------------------- [November 18, 1996, Nicholas Petreley] The problem is that Intel was caught between a rock and a hard place with MMX. It could have built a new wing onto the Pentium architecture, which would have been a safe and effective way to add MMX to the chip. But it would mean creating new CPU registers (internal storage slots) to do the MMX processing. Intel didn't want to do that, because then Microsoft and other vendors would have had to update their operating systems to manage these new CPU registers. So Intel got around this problem by letting the MMX portion of the chip "borrow" the registers normally devoted to floating-point math. As a result, the processor has to be switched manually between two modes -- MMX and floating point. And that takes time. About 50 clock ticks of time, which, believe me, is an eternity to microprocessors, no matter what Intel tells you. This is Intel's solution: If you check http://developer.intel.com/drg/mmx/Manuals/dg/DG_CHP4.HTM, you'll see that Intel advises MMX programmers to minimize or eliminate an application's dependence on floating-point operations. If that isn't possible, programmers should avoid frequent switches between MMX and floating point. -------------------- And another article dealing with MMX: [BY BRETT GLASS June 17, 1996 (Vol. 18, Issue 25)] Should you wait for MMX to hit the streets before buying new computers? Probably not. Every one of the MMX instructions can (and will) be emulated in software on existing machines. And if you already have peripherals that contain their own processors (such as a graphics accelerator or a DSP sound card), you'll get better performance from the specialized hardware than you will from an MMX solution. If you decide you want to upgrade to MMX in the future, you're sure to find it in CPU upgrade chips from all major vendors. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!gatech!news.cse.psu.edu!news3.cac.psu.edu!csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu!user From: rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OStep/Intel Installing to bare drive? Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:11:07 -0500 Organization: HHDEV Computing Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu X-Authinfo-User: rmd103@psu.edu X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27143 comp.sys.next.software:28000 I'm considering trying OpenStep on a cobbled together Intel PC. I havent found a spare CD ROM lying around yet, but do have access to an external parallel port CD ROM. I have already made a dos boot disk with the CD ROM drivers. I imagine the install process for OpenStep goes something like... -boot from floppy..mount cd rom...start installer.. What happens next? Does it format the drive with a special file structure? Does it used a UNIX based file system? Do I have to prepare the drive first with a special formatting utility? Would I need any other software..or is everything contained in OpenStep itself? Sincere thanks for any info. -Ron #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 1997 18:57:29 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5dqfep$f6k@news.next.com> References: Reply-To: mark_bessey@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bananajr.next.com Paul R. Brown writes > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid. I once had a roommate dump a stein full of beer into my Amiga 500, gumming up the keyboard and floppy drive. What I did was to disassemble it and wash everything *really well* with just hot water, then dry it out by placing it on top of the clothes dryer for a few loads. Worked out great. Just make absolutely sure that everything's totally dry before applying power again. Hope this helps, -Mark -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 1997 19:17:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5dqgkj$e4g@news.digifix.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 02/10/97, Paul R. Brown wrote: >Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the >keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you >from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) >So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? >I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much >as I can without introducing more liquid. > >TIA. I've washed (and by washed I mean in a tub of water, and with the shower head) several different keyboards over the last few years, and they've worked fine afterwards. Your mileage may vary though.. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!132.205.106.4!newsflash.concordia.ca!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!kant!jim From: Jim McGilvray Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: HD recommendations Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:56:29 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 16 Message-ID: Reply-To: Jim McGilvray NNTP-Posting-Host: kant.philo.mcgill.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: jim@kant Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27146 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16356 Hi, all, I'm looking for 3-4 scsi drives, 1.5-2GB, for cubes and slabs. Does anyone have any advice or recommendations on what to get and where to get it? Good price, durability, a quiet drive, and a reliable source are all advantages. Thanks, Jim Jim McGilvray Philosophy/McGill #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!nntp.mbnet.mb.ca!news.escape.ca!usenet From: "Mike Linton" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: graphics-card-need help Date: 11 Feb 1997 06:23:46 GMT Organization: escape communications corp. Lines: 45 Message-ID: <01bc17e2$8d377180$5f4da1cf@default> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <01bc1216$291bcec0$700002c3@ripper> NNTP-Posting-Host: mx2dl95.escape.ca X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2526 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:132148 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86151 comp.sys.next.hardware:27147 Jack wrote in article <01bc1216$291bcec0$700002c3@ripper>... > > > folks, > I've heard quite often that I should get myself a 3D-graphics card, BUT I > don't know which one to buy: Same problem I had... I picked up an ATI 3D Expression 4MB PC2TV card a few months back, and have been quite satisfied with it. HOWEVER, I don't play a lot of games... what I have tried on it, just smokes though (running a Pentium 133). But, like anything else, there are programs out there that will bogg down with it. Doesn't seem to matter what you get these days, you'll always find a way to bung it up. :) It also have a built in TV Output, so you can just plug your 'puter right into the back of a VCR, or TV that accepts SVideo, or Composite video in... Kind of a nice bonus. > Do the computer games support all cards? Yes, and no... right now, most of the newest Win95 programs, are written to support Direct 3D. This, in a nutshell, does away with the compatibilty problems, buy just letting the programmers code for Direct 3D, and not have to worry about which card they're going to directly support. As a result, almost ANY game COULD work with ANY card (I say it like that, because as usual not everyone has done this yet). There are still some programmers who are coding for only one specific card. Now on the flip side, the 2D Accelerator on most 3D Video cards, WILL work with all software (within the usual compatibilty-oriented problems :). But, not all software will take advantage of your 3D Chipset right now. DirectX has become fairly common to most games written over the past few months, as I'm sure Direct 3D will. But, who knows. > If not, which ones are mostly supported? Well, ATI and Matrox are becoming quite popular. However, the 3DFX chipset is ALSO becoming very popular (on the Monster 3D card, from Diamond if I'm not mistaken). It is kind of a nice card, in that it works WITH your existing video card, until the ATI and the Matrox cards, which are a complete replacement for them. BTW - if this message is jaded, and incoherent, I'm running on far tooo little sleep, and should've gone to bed hours ago. #################################################################### Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!lboro.ac.uk!nott-cs!trent-doc!chris!sp1edea From: Andy Eder Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading In-Reply-To: <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> X-Sender: sp1edea@chris X-Nntp-Posting-Host: chris Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Sender: news@doc.ntu.ac.uk Organization: The Nottingham Trent University, DOC. References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:59:08 GMT Lines: 28 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2527 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:132154 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86154 comp.sys.next.hardware:27148 On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Marcel Stegehuis wrote: > Matt Kauffman wrote: > > > > If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a > > P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board > > compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. > > > > MMK > > -- > > just another human resource > Well than. Imagine I already have a P166 (say normal as far as that good > be). Can I just put in a P166 MMX. Do I need a bios upgrade ? > -- > Make sure that you buy a motherboard capable of supporting the MMX. A lot of people are buying the MMX only to realise that their motherboard doesn't support it. To support the MMX, you need a dual voltage capable motherboard - that is, a motherboard that can supply a 2.8v and 3.3v to the MMX's core and i/o. Performance wise, I would definitely recommend the MMX if you're in a position to purchase one. Regards. Andy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Christian Kuhtz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:08:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5dqn3g$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftc-co2-16.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Feb 11 1:08:00 PM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) In addition, this is not easily implemented as it requires changes deep in the operating system kernel to save the current register etc state to allow a change to and back from MMX mode. In other words, NEXTSTEP will most likely never use these extensions, as at the time NEXTSTEP was designed this stuff didn't exist. OPENSTEP might down the road if they so chose to implement it. Due to the problems this state change causes, I wouldn't expect OS support for this anytime soon. That means essentially that MMX is fairly useless for now. Pretty ridiculous feature if you ask me because of that required state change and the tremendous latency. schmidt@humerus.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) wrote: >Unfortunately, acording to an article in Infoworld, the MMX chips are a >two-state chip. The first state is floating-point, the second is the MMX >state. In order to change between states, it takes on the order of 600 >clock cycles. If the cpu is asked to perform MMX functions it goes through >the 600 tick change. If it is subsequently asked to perform floating point >calculations, another 600 ticks. > >All this is fine, if you are running a single-tasking OS like DOS. In any >multi-tasking environment, the results become random. Although most OS >functions are interger, they are not all interger. Also, there are many >utility programs which will run at the same time as your MM application and >those will perform floating-point calculations. > >Acording to Infoworld, they experienced many situations where the MMX >processor actually slowed down processing. If you are running NEXTSTEP, >odds are that you are combining sound and graphics, the former using the MM >extensions, the latter floating point calculations. > > -pete -- Christian Kuhtz (personal) (work) ".com is a mistake." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.0.229.10!in-news.erinet.com!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!slee.a2i!slee From: Stephen Lee Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:33:22 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 36 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: slee Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2528 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:132170 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86158 comp.sys.next.hardware:27150 In Andy Eder writes: >On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Marcel Stegehuis wrote: >> Matt Kauffman wrote: >> > >> > If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a >> > P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board >> > compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. >> > >> > MMK >> > -- >> > just another human resource >> Well than. Imagine I already have a P166 (say normal as far as that good >> be). Can I just put in a P166 MMX. Do I need a bios upgrade ? >> -- >> >Make sure that you buy a motherboard capable of supporting the MMX. A lot >of people are buying the MMX only to realise that their motherboard >doesn't support it. To support the MMX, you need a dual voltage capable >motherboard - that is, a motherboard that can supply a 2.8v and 3.3v to >the MMX's core and i/o. Performance wise, I would definitely recommend >the MMX if you're in a position to purchase one. >Regards. >Andy I went to a local PC dealer and he said that the 166-MMX can be plugged into my socket-7 Endeavor board which only supports 3.3v. I would like to know if this is true. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:12:30 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4n0C2z200iWm0_QIk0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5dqbl1$skc@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po6.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5dqbl1$skc@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Feb-97 Re: MMX-upgrading by Peter Schmidt@humerus.ma > Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: >: _600_? How long does it take to clear the pipeline on the Pentium MMX? >: If clearing the pipeline is shorter (and it should be!), why does >: switching from MMX to FP take so long? > > Sorry -- the 600 number was way off. The actual number is 50. Ahh...that's much more in line with the numbers I was thinking of. > The slowdown that I mentioned was speculative, but in the first looks at > MMX machines, Infoworld says that there are no great gains -- unlike with > DSP's or graphics co-processors. Makes sense. MMX is a specialized technology that only offers benefits for a rather limited problem domain. Furthermore, there's little point to having both MMX and a 3D-accelerated video card, since much of the work could be done on either side. I wouldn't say MMX was useless, exactly-- but it's far more of a marketing gimmick than something which offers lots of practical value. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news.mr.net!carleton.edu!atlas!gottliej From: gottliej@mathcs.carleton.edu (Jeremy Gottlieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color NeXT printer cartridges Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:33:52 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5dqok0$cps@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.mathcs.carleton.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hi. We have a color NeXT printer that needs new ink cartridges. Does anyone out there know either of the following: 1) A place to get NeXT ink cartridges. 2) Whether there are any other ink cartridges that will work in the NeXT color printers. We suspect that cartridges from a Canon printer might work, but don't know the model numbers or anything. Thanks. -- _______________________________________________________________ Jeremy Gottlieb gottliej@mathcs.carleton.edu Carleton College System Manager Northfield, MN 55057 Carleton Math/CS "Consider how stupid the average American is. Now keep in mind that half the people are dumber than that!"--George Carlin _______________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!news.uunet.ca!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!usenet From: Claude Dubois Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External Hard Drive Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:35:49 -0400 Organization: S.F. Marketing Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3300D81F.4CAD@sfm.ca> References: <32F3A5F1.6171@soback.kornet.nm.kr> <32FBEECB.6A19@virginia.edu> Reply-To: doobie@sfm.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: g7439.258.interax.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Stephan Prock wrote: > > How can I determine which external hard drives will be compatible with > my NeXT Turbostation. I'm interested in the APS Q 1280 by I'm not > sure about the "Fireball TM mechanism." Any info would be greatly > appreciated. > > S. Prock I have bought and installed the Quantum drive from APS in my NeXT TurboColor (Under NS 3.2) as the internal startup drive with no problem whatsoever. I expect the external unit should work just as well. Service from APS was excellent. Claude Dubois #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.170.183.55!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!usenet From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 1997 22:16:00 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5dqr30$k6h@tribune.usask.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pisces.usask.ca X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >In article , >Paul R. Brown wrote: >>Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the >>keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you >>from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > I did this a few years ago, too. Only *I'm* not afraid to name names -- it was Diet Pepsi. I managed to get everything working again after cleaning the entire keyboard in an ultrasonic cleaner using lukewarm distilled water. -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308 University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058 Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:54:01 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Feb-97 OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... by Paul R. Brown@ashkhabad. > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid. Let's look on the bright side (sort of :-)-- no matter what you do, it can only help or at least not make things any worse. There are two problems that you need to correct. First, spilling fluid into the keyboard makes the keys stick, and secondly, the dried fluid will make contacts between traces on the circuit board where there shouldn't be any. Disassemble the keyboard, and remove all of the key caps by gently but firmly levering them straight upwards. The special bigger keys like spacebar, return, shift, etc have metal "U" clips which you should remove from the board surface before lifting the key cap itself out. Rinse all of these key caps in warm soapy water, along with the outer casing of the keyboard. In order to clean the keyboard's circuit board, I'd try getting some "Electrical Contact Cleaner & Lubricant Spray" such as Krylon #1351 by Sherwin-Williams from Radio Shack. This stuff does an amazing job of removing gunk, and will evaporate very quickly. You might want to hold the circuit board at an angle over a sink to sort of let the contaminant drip off instead of some being left when the cleaner evaporates. You might also wash or immerse the board in warm water, shake it dry, and use the contact cleaner again. You can speed up the drying process with a hair dryer set on low. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!humerus.mae.cornell.edu!schmidt From: schmidt@humerus.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 12 Feb 1997 00:17:42 GMT Organization: Cornell University Lines: 10 Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5dr276$d2h@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <4n0C2z200iWm0_QIk0@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: humerus.mae.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: > I wouldn't say MMX was useless, exactly-- but it's far more of a > marketing gimmick than something which offers lots of practical value. I guess the gimick with the MMX processor is that you can design a cheep system, giving most of your money to Intel. Get a cheep video card and a cheep sound card, and put them on a MB with an MMX processor, and you have a decent multimedia machine. -pete #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTprinter components Date: 11 Feb 1997 18:16:48 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961006] My friend Lyle, the Apple-authorized service technician, is presently repairing my NeXTprinter. We need a part number for the paper pickup roller assembly in the NeXTprinter to properly do the job. Anyone know what that part number is? ...................................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!cmcl2.nyu.edu!newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu!news.cc.sunysb.edu!news From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Power Supply Date: 31 Jan 1997 19:43:31 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5cti13$4dl@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(n) I have a monochrome turbo NeXTStation whose power supply just failed. If anyone knows where I can obtain the appropriate replacement part, or knows where there is information about obtaining a replacement, could they please contact me by email: rlarson @semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu I know this topic has been raised before. Please forgive the use of bandwdth in raising it again. -Richard Larson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!in1.nntp.cais.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 12 Feb 1997 00:25:22 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 57 Message-ID: <5dr2li$bdl@news.us.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5dqn3g$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Christian Kuhtz wrote: > >In addition, this is not easily implemented as it requires changes deep in >the operating system kernel to save the current register etc state to allow a >change to and back from MMX mode. > >In other words, NEXTSTEP will most likely never use these extensions, as at >the time NEXTSTEP was designed this stuff didn't exist. OPENSTEP might down >the road if they so chose to implement it. > >Due to the problems this state change causes, I wouldn't expect OS support >for this anytime soon. That means essentially that MMX is fairly useless for >now. While NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Mach will not take advantage and therefore also won't suffer the disadvantages of the MMX extensions, Intel's new Pentium MMX chips offer more than MMX. Intel doubled the L1 cache and write buffers among other things to give the Pentium MMX a performance boost even without software designed to take advantage of MMX. Therefore the fastest 200Mhz Pentium chip you can buy today is a 200Mhz Pentium MMX, even if you are running NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. For more info on this subject, check out Tom's Hardware Page at http://www.sysdoc.pair.com/. While it's mostly geared towards the "mainstream" PC crowd, most of it applies to anyone using/buying PC clone equipment. The whole idea of putting video related acceleration on the CPU has some interesting side effects on the NEXTSTEP Display Postscript realm if the players chose to take advantage of it. While Intel's MMX may mean nothing for us, the movement towards faster framebuffers (possibly bypassing PCI a la AGP) would help the speed of Display Postscript. Since NEXTSTEP uses the CPU to draw views into main memory buffers and then blasts those buffers across to the video card, any acceleration provided on the video card is typically unused. All an optimal NEXTSTEP system needs is a really fast interface between the main memory buffers, video RAM, and RAMDACs. SGI's unified memory architecture in thier O2 for example might provide a direction for very high DPS performance. While the new PC's easily outperform NeXT's hardware on NXBench, a closer look reveals that most of the additional speed is from the faster CPU doing the DPS->main memory buffer drawing, which is the most CPU intensive portion. However, the black hardware does a terrific job at getting the main memory buffer contents to the video RAM (except the NeXTdimension) and thus giving black hardware such a fluid UI feel with comparably little CPU horsepower. (Compare the results on the "window" test). Getting back to MMX, NeXT's DPS architecture means that if one wants to have more hardware acceleration for DPS, one ought to look at CPU video extensions. 3D and video acceleration without poking a "hole" in DPS could also conceivably be achieved using multimedia extensions to the CPU. Food for thought anyways. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!news From: ticsoftware_mani Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP connect NeXT monitor to a PC Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:59:39 -0500 Organization: TIC Lines: 3 Message-ID: <3301240B.8D5@ticsoftware.com> Reply-To: mani@ticsoftware.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-41.ts-10.hck.idt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-IDT-v5 (WinNT; U) Does anyone how to connect a MegaPixel 21" NeXT cube color monitor (Hitachi 4005E) with a PC (as a SVGA)? Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!news From: kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP Postscript printer won't work. Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:55:15 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: slc149.modem.xmission.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v1.01 (30 Day Trial) I'm having trouble getting an HP LaserJet 4ML printer to work with OpenStep/Mach/Intel 4.1. When I try to print the indicator lights light up and blink like normal when the printer is processing data but then the printer never prints, it just continues to process the data indefinately. The printer is responding to the computer because the computer can sense out-of-paper, open-door, paper-jam, etc. I've tried several different PPD's all with the same result. Everything works fine from Windows 95. Thanks, Kevin Pompei #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com!user From: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help adding external drive Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:20:20 -0500 Organization: Integrated Wellness Systems Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Feb 11 7:16:56 PM CST 1997 In article , Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de wrote: > My guess: cabling and/or termination. Well, before I read this message, I figured it out. I forgot that because the SCSI drive was an internal disk on the Mac, the jumper was set as device 0. So, I now have more space. John #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!news From: kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DX-4/100 good performance? NEED HELP SETTING UP INTEL BOX! Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:26:18 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <19970212013201.UAA25323@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slc149.modem.xmission.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v1.01 (30 Day Trial) In article <19970212013201.UAA25323@ladder01.news.aol.com>, comiskey1@aol.com says... > I would like to know if anyone thinks I'd be very happy with how the NeXT > OS performs on a DX4-100 CPU. They're very cheap and much less than > Pentiums. It would save me at least $100 to go with one. > Also, I am confused about setting up a box. I know I need a SCSI CD-ROM. > Now, am I limited to only Adaptec 154x and BusLogic SCSI adapters? They > are very expensive! > I would really appreciate any help on this!!! > -DC > You don't have to have a scsi cd-rom. A standard ATAPI CD-ROM works fine. Also there are a number of SCSI adapters that work. Check out NextAnswers at http://www.next.com Kevin Pompei #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!news From: kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: External Bus Speed v. Internal Speed on OS/Intel Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:48:53 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: slc149.modem.xmission.com X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v1.01 (30 Day Trial) I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this or if it is just a peculiar quirck of my system. After installing OS 4.1/Mach/Intel and hearing about the potential problems with Cyrix 6x86 processors, I took out my Cyrix P150 and replaced it with a Intel Pentium-150. True to Cyrix's claims the performance qualitatively seemed about the same. I then had to use the 150 in a different machine and replaced it with an Intel Pentium 133. To my surprise the system is responding noticeably quicker. The only thing I can think of that would cause this would be the difference in bus speeds 66mhz v. 60mhz. Has anyone else noticed that Openstep/mach's performance is greatly influenced by bus speed. Thanks, Kevin Pompei #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: comiskey1@aol.com (Comiskey1) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DX-4/100 good performance? NEED HELP SETTING UP INTEL BOX! Date: 12 Feb 1997 01:32:47 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 19 Message-ID: <19970212013201.UAA25323@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I would like to know if anyone thinks I'd be very happy with how the NeXT OS performs on a DX4-100 CPU. They're very cheap and much less than Pentiums. It would save me at least $100 to go with one. Also, I am confused about setting up a box. I know I need a SCSI CD-ROM. Now, am I limited to only Adaptec 154x and BusLogic SCSI adapters? They are very expensive! I would really appreciate any help on this!!! -DC -Electric Eye "Keep the Faith and Defend It!- "You think you've private lives Think nothing of the kind. There is no true escape I'm watching all the time." >Judas Priest, Electric Eye, 1982 (comiskey@netaxis.com) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External Bus Speed v. Internal Speed on OS/Intel Date: 12 Feb 1997 04:57:30 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5drijq$dj5@news.us.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) wrote: >I then had to use the 150 in a different machine and replaced it with an >Intel Pentium 133. To my surprise the system is responding noticeably >quicker. The only thing I can think of that would cause this would be >the difference in bus speeds 66mhz v. 60mhz. > >Has anyone else noticed that Openstep/mach's performance is greatly >influenced by bus speed. IMHO, definitely. To a typical NS/OS user, the perceived performance can be tied to how "fluid" the UI behaves. These can be quantified by the response of scroll bars, moving windows, etc. etc. Slow, disk intensive things like launching applications are usually hidden on systems that are close in CPU horsepower, since something like 18 versus 22 seconds isn't that noticable especially on a multi-tasking OS. Since NS/OS draws everything using Display Postscript into a main memory buffer and then blasts that buffer across the PCI bus to the video card, the speed of main memory and the PCI bus dramatically affects scrolling and window movement. When you drag a window, copies of the window buffer are being blasted to different locations in the video buffer across the PCI bus. A system bus speed of 60Mhz versus 66Mhz means that the PCI bus is running at 30Mhz versus 33Mhz, an immediate 10% difference. Therefore, if your CPU can render the window into the main memory buffer in "real time", then the only item affecting video performance is the bandwidth to the screen of which the bus speeds play a major role. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: 12 Feb 1997 04:45:29 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I had posted a question about running NS/OS with the AMD K5. While there were many responses that said that the Cyrix 6x86 has problems with NS/OS, there were no confirmations on whether or not the AMD K5 would work. Poking around the AMD web site revealed that AMD had XXCAL Testing Laboraties test the K5 for compatibility and lo and behold, NEXTSTEP 3.3 was on the compatible list (see http://www.xxcal.com/amdk5s.htm). That was enough for me to order the AMD K5 133, but my vendor screwed up and sent me a genuine new Intel Pentium 133. I'm not complaining since the Intel is $50 more. :-) This should tide me over until a PPCP or CHRP or whatever they want to call it PowerPC hardware and OPENSTEP for PowerPC ships. Unfortunately I still cannot confirm first hand whether or not the K5 works with NS/OS. :-( I think we would all be more confident if the XXCAL list included OmniWeb. :-) -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wrdiss1.robins.af.mil!news.monroe.army.mil!info.usuhs.mil!cs.umd.edu!hecate.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!usenet From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:46:02 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 29 Message-ID: <33013CE0.2EF@wam.umd.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5dqn3g$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: dutky@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: annex13-61.dial.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > In addition, this is not easily implemented as it requires changes > deep in the operating system kernel to save the current register > etc state to allow a change to and back from MMX mode. > > In other words, NEXTSTEP will most likely never use these > extensions, as at the time NEXTSTEP was designed this stuff > didn't exist. OPENSTEP might down the road if they so chose > to implement it. > > Due to the problems this state change causes, I wouldn't expect > OS support for this anytime soon. That means essentially that MMX > is fairly useless for now. > > Pretty ridiculous feature if you ask me because of that required > state change and the tremendous latency. > Actually, the entire point of having MMX use the same registers and state as the FPU was to prevent OS kernals from having to be rewritten to support MMX. Since OS's have to swap the state of the FPU on task switches already they don't need to do ANYTHING in order to support MMX. Now, if you want to have the OS make USE of the MMX instructions to accelerate some OS tasks (I can't think of what you would use MMX for in kernal code) THEN you would need to recompile... - Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!coopnews.coop.net!indra.com!bear From: bear@indra.com (Bear Giles) Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Reply-To: bear@indra.com Sender: usenet@indra.com (System Administrator) Organization: Acme University, W. E. Coyote president Message-ID: References: <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: net.indra.com Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:09:34 GMT Lines: 65 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24685 comp.os.linux.hardware:70090 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:27010 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:27182 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:124059 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24562 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:99328 comp.sys.next.hardware:27169 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27286 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44582 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- emon@gte.com wrote: > > Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse. They sell used/refurbished hard drive > as new. Uh, that's a classic example of _fraud_. Are you absolutely sure that they represented the drives as "new," or did you overlook fine print stating that the drives may have been used or refurbished? This brings up another point that I've found a few sites trying. Someone's web page with "These drives may be used" is probably not legal notice. A clean paper font in 4 points is marginally legible, but I've seen some web sites where the text was literally only 2 or 3 pixels high! Likewise a disclaimer in white-on-white probably has no legal weight. > And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive > starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has > expired. [Assuming that the drives were presented as "new" or "original", etc.] Get that in writing, then file a formal criminal complaint with the Attorney General's office (or Secretary of State, it varies) for both your state and the state this company operates out of. They probably won't act on a single complaint, but if the state gets several complaints they can take action. Also, you should consider filing a small-claims action against the company for fradulent activity. In most states you can seek 3x damages (=the cost of the drive, although you'll have to return it) if you can show that the other party knowingly committed fraud. They probably won't show up to defend themselves (the cost to defend themselves would be close to the damages sought), and figure that collecting on the judgment would be impossible from out-of-state. That's why you name the officers of the company as codefendants, and when you get the judgment you turn it over to the most viscious, nasty collection agency you can for "one dollar and other considerations." ;-) Also be sure they notify the credit bureaus of the judgment. Alternately, if you're _really_ pissed at someone I think there's a way to file for involuntary bankruptcy for a company if it refuses to pay a legal obligation. This involves real money, but it makes life a nightmare for the other party, especially if you can time it right. ObDisclaimer: IHNBAL. - -- Bear Giles To treat your facts with imagination is one thing, bear'at'indra'dot'com but to imagine your facts is another. -- John Burroughs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMwEmTHdFPAE5baNlAQFd5wP7BdtifAvyLimxejZmBPoLPlEYZTMXxHHk KNJWUc+gb7RK9PPdg+W4RCxdacsFe9TFJdQpaiG5mLFxbynPmUnmjL+z+V9xGHOU XzQpM3nG3kZjd3ncwG3vkRFK1SLY68KB/rp/Fg2xTQlLdC0baQmPSE6Y0SoEFb67 naKk8EXfFLE= =6TDL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Christian Kuhtz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: 12 Feb 1997 08:07:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftc-co2-16.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Feb 12 12:07:50 AM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I bought a used NeXTprinter recently and I am very happy with it. Bought a new HP tone cartridge for it, and the blacks are as solid as can be. It is still, IMHO, the best choice with the most bang for the buck on a NeXT. -- Christian Kuhtz (personal) (work) ".com is a mistake." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.uio.no!in1.nntp.cais.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DX-4/100 good performance? NEED HELP SETTING UP INTEL BOX! Date: 12 Feb 1997 04:35:24 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5drhac$dj5@news.us.net> References: <19970212013201.UAA25323@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) comiskey1@aol.com (Comiskey1) wrote: >I would like to know if anyone thinks I'd be very happy with how the NeXT >OS performs on a DX4-100 CPU. They're very cheap and much less than >Pentiums. It would save me at least $100 to go with one. >Also, I am confused about setting up a box. I know I need a SCSI CD-ROM. >Now, am I limited to only Adaptec 154x and BusLogic SCSI adapters? They >are very expensive! >I would really appreciate any help on this!!! For many tasks a 100Mhz 486DX4 would be sufficient if you spent the money in other areas - memory and I/O. These days, however, you might as well go with an AMD 5x86 133Mhz CPU since there shouldn't be a price difference. This should give you roughly 80Mhz Pentium integer performance. A 100Mhz 486DX4 with 32mb of RAM will outperform a 166Mhz Pentium with 16mb of RAM for most user tasks, since a VM page fault is extremely expensive (disks are slow). You do not need a SCSI CD-ROM, but SCSI is definitely a plus for a multitasking system. For any system I would recommend getting a PCI bus. Once you have that and a system with a NCR SCSI BIOS built in (many do these days), you can buy a NCR 810 SCSI card for $80. A 2X or 4X SCSI CD-ROM drive is very inexpensive these days. If you really must go with EIDE, then an ATAPI compatible CD-ROM will work - check the NeXTanswers on the EIDE driver. Final note: you may want to consider buying a Pentium motherboard and getting a low end Pentium (Intel or AMD) because you would have a longer upgrade path (stick in a 200Mhz Pentium MMX if you want to down the road). -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.enteract.com!news.he.net!viper.inow.com!news1.aplatform.com!nntp.mainstreet.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!sloth.swcp.com!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: 12 Feb 1997 02:44:36 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Advice welcome on the following: I am debating which way to go on getting a printer for a NeXTstation, either 1) a new (i.e. unused) Next LaserPrinter for $400, or 2) a new currently manufactured laser printer, for $?. I've used a NeXT LaserPrinter before, and it was MUCH faster than attaching a PostScript printer over the serial port on NeXT hardware. It seemed at least 6 pages per minute. Does anyone know the exact number? The only deficieny was that it didn't make very solid blacks. But sharpness was very good with 400dpi. To get a PostScript printer working with a NeXTstation as fast as a NeXT printer, it would have to be attached through the ethernet, no? So how much would I have to spend on a PostScript with the equivalent How much $ would I need to spend? Would it have to have a network card on it? For comparison, what is the bandwidth (Mbits/second) for printers connected to a typical PC? Thanks much for any info. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!taurus!adnline1324.adnc.com!user From: cward@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help me I give up... Date: 12 Feb 1997 06:28:31 GMT Organization: adnc.com Lines: 26 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.158.13.24 X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.1.8 I am helping a friend with his Dimension Cube running NeXTStep 3.3... I have given up on sendmail. I have gotten a lot of help. Nothing works. I am always root@local.host no matter what I do. Cannot send mail host local host not found. I GIVE UP!!! Sendmail won't work for me... I have a few other problems I can't find answers for... How do you get sound from a VCR to go through the soundbox? Video in on the Dimension board works real well, no sound though. I have Ghostscript and the Ghost for HP Deskjets. I will figure out how to compile someday... I have here an HP 500c. What cabling do I use? Pinouts? Where do I connect it? Audio CDs don't work. Can't read them on Toshiba or NEC drives I have here to test them on. What are the RGB pinouts on the Dimension board? I can't find this info... Thank you all! CW #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!EU.net!sun4nl!Inter.NL.net!sci.kun.nl!not-for-mail From: pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:19:28 +0100 Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands Lines: 26 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> Reply-To: "NO JUNK MAIL!" NNTP-Posting-Host: pion.sci.kun.nl Cc: slee@rahul.net X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #7 (NOV) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2536 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:132293 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86219 comp.sys.next.hardware:27174 Stephen Lee writes: >I went to a local PC dealer and he said that the 166-MMX can be >plugged into my socket-7 Endeavor board which only supports 3.3v. > >I would like to know if this is true. It is patently false; you may want to avoid that dealer in the future. I cite from the introduction to application note "AP-580 Voltage Guidelines For Pentium Processors With MMX(TM) Technology": This application note is of particular importance due to the new core voltage of the Pentium processor with MMX technology. Its split voltage (2.8v core; 3.3v input/output) is in contrast to the Pentium processor's unified voltage (3.3v core and input/output). Motherboard designs must be modified to accommodate the Pentium processor with MMX technology's new core voltage. Refer to Pentium Processor Flexible Motherboard Guidelines (order #243187) for additional information. Convince yourself: http://developer.intel.com/design/mmx/applnots/243186.htm - Peter -- pieterh@sci.kun.nl http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!news.duq.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:04:59 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5dqn3g$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <5dr2li$bdl@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5dr2li$bdl@news.us.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Feb-97 Re: MMX-upgrading by Bill Chin@us.net > The whole idea of putting video related acceleration on the CPU has > some interesting side effects on the NEXTSTEP Display Postscript realm > if the players chose to take advantage of it. While Intel's MMX may > mean nothing for us, the movement towards faster framebuffers (possibly > bypassing PCI a la AGP) would help the speed of Display Postscript. Good point! And it's about time PC hardware designers figured this out. Yes, Virginia-- ignoring Amdahl's law by designing hardware with unbalanced I/O bandwidth relative to CPU performance or memory is not a good idea.... :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!univ-lr.fr!usenet From: jof@lune.univ-lr.fr (Bruno Joffredo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTATION POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE Date: 12 Feb 1997 12:43:46 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5dsdu2$e4h@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: lune.univ-lr.fr Hello, I am looking for NeXtStation POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE. If you have it or you know where i can obtain it please email me : jof@univ-lr.fr Thank you. -- Bruno Joffredo bruno.joffredo@cri.univ-lr.fr (NeXt Mail, MIME) Centre de Ressources Informatiques #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.86.32.9!skypoint.com!not-for-mail From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:31:01 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5dsgml$q0h$1@shadow.skypoint.net> References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial029.skypoint.net In-Reply-To: <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00037 On 02/11/97, Christian Kuhtz wrote: > >I bought a used NeXTprinter recently and I am very happy with it. Bought a new >HP tone cartridge for it, and the blacks are as solid as can be. > >It is still, IMHO, the best choice with the most bang for the buck on a NeXT. > >-- >Christian Kuhtz (personal) (work) > ".com is a mistake." > Anyone have any experience serving a NeXT Printer to NT using the OpenStep 4.0 Samba binaries? Do I need some sort of postscript translator on the NT side? All comments welcome. -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ############################################################### #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!pagesat.net!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External Bus Speed v. Internal Speed on OS/Intel Date: 12 Feb 97 10:09:45 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: port-19-21.access.one.net In-reply-to: kpompei@xmission.com's message of Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:48:53 -0700 In article , kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) writes: I then had to use the 150 in a different machine and replaced it with an Intel Pentium 133. To my surprise the system is responding noticeably quicker. The only thing I can think of that would cause this would be the difference in bus speeds 66mhz v. 60mhz. Did you remember to set the multiplier back from 2.5x to 2x? If not, you might have been running at 166Mhz. Other than that, it's tough to say. NeXTSTEP (Linux, WindowsNT, etc) will in general benefit more from a fast bus to memory and disk than, say, Windows95. On the other hand, the 150Mhz CPU should still be faster. It's expected that the faster CPU will get requests to the slower bus more quickly, resulting in a net gain of hardly anything for 150Mhz over 133Mhz. But if you're really running at 166Mhz, well, then you've got the faster bus and the faster CPU :-). Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.168.54.138!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!usenet From: Claude Dubois Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: HD recommendations Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:40:47 -0400 Organization: S.F. Marketing Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3301D664.7201@sfm.ca> References: Reply-To: doobie@sfm.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: g7439.258.interax.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27179 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16375 Jim McGilvray wrote: > > Hi, all, > > I'm looking for 3-4 scsi drives, 1.5-2GB, for cubes and slabs. Does > anyone have any advice or recommendations on what to get and where to get > it? Good price, durability, a quiet drive, and a reliable source are all > advantages. > > Thanks, > > Jim > > Jim McGilvray > Philosophy/McGill Hi Jim! Over a year ago, I bought the Quantum Fireballs from a couple of sources and they worked just fine as startup drives in NeXT TurboColor slabs. They were at the time the least expensive and still are excellent value. APS Technologies had excellent pricing and speedy delivery, check them out. By the way, the drives still perform perfectly. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which modern CD-ROM drive to attach to a NeXTstation? Date: 12 Feb 1997 16:53:51 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 53 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.publish.cdrom.hardware:26286 comp.sys.next.hardware:27180 I'm currently looking for a new CD ROM drive which I intend to attach to a NeXTstation mono (at least for a while). Apart from the fact that I probably can't exploit all features on my trusty black box, my range of choices is now as follows: - Toshiba XM-3801B - Plextor 12Plex (caddy version) - Pioneer DR-U12x Can anyone answer one (or more) of these questions? 1. Does anybody know a URL whith specific information about the Pioneer drive (or who could supply this informaiton)? 2. Plextor claims to deliver "true 12speed", i.e. 1.8MB/sec data transfer rate "at every location on the disc". Toshiba says their drive has "up to 2,250 KB/s sustained data transfer rate". (Similar values for random access Plextor:105ms, Tosh.: <99ms) Now, the Toshiba seems to be marginally faster, although the Plextor features a 512KB buffer (Tosh. 256KB). Which one's faster for what purpose? (Does the larger buffer have any noticeable advantage?) o installation of software (such as a whole OS) o multimedia applications (e.g. reading large QT movies from CD) o running of applications directly off the CD 3. I understand from earlier postings in c.p.c.h that Toshiba does DAE (Digital Audio Extraction) only with annoyingly simple speed, while the Plextor can do this at a much higher speed with the supplied Windows software? Is it possible only with proprietary software or is there any freely available software (besides the OmniCD 0.5alpha version under NEXTSTEP) that can be used for all drives? 4. Toshiba seems to be available only in a tray version. Does anybody know of a caddy version? What about the Pioneer drive? 5. Has anybody successfully used any of these drives at a NeXTstation? 6. Somebody told me that drives above 8x speed are noticeably louder than slower drives. Is that true? I'll gladly summarize if there is sufficient feedback. Thanks, Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: UltraSCSI drives at NeXTstation? Date: 12 Feb 1997 17:10:27 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de I'm currently looking for a 4GB hard drive which I intend to attach to a NeXTstation mono (32MB, NEXTSTEP 3.3). Nobody could offer me a simple FastSCSI disc, since they've vanished from the market (at least the German one). Vendors esp. offered me a Seagate Barracuda drive ST34371N with a capacity of 4.3 GB and 7200rpm. Has anybody had success with this drive at a NeXTstation? Or: does anyone know whether it can be used with asynchronous data transfers in order to please older drives? How about using these disks under OPENSTEP 4.x? Does OPENSTEP allow larger partitions than 2GB? Thanks, Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.246.124.37!nntp.newsfirst.com!nntp.crosslink.net!not-for-mail From: greg davis Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:22:25 -0500 Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3301EE41.2EAD@crosslink.net> References: Reply-To: gregor@crosslink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.246.65.65 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Paul R. Brown wrote: > > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid. > I have had good luck with using de-ionized water as a cleaning agent. Unlike distilled water, this is PURE H20 (unlike distilled) and does NOT conduct electricity. I buy it by the gallon at the local Culligan dealer. You should be able to score a couple of gallons, fill your sink up and dunk the doggone sticky keyboard right into it. A new stiff bristled brush is helpful at dislodging sugar. As an alternative, if you have a water-pik, you could jet the thing clean as well. Let it drain to dry, and when it dries, should work like a champ. Like Scott said, though, your mileage may vary. Gregor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf_see_signature From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT monitors on Mac or PC? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:36:46 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 In article , henry@norr.com (Henry Norr) wrote: > Even if you don't have a solution, I'm curious about a couple of issues > with this display: What's its frequency and resolution when running on the > NextStation? And what exactly is the role of the soundbox? All NeXT displays are 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz. The 17" is 92 dpi and the 21" is 75 dpi. The sound box provides integrated mike and speaker, as well as line-outs and headphone jack. No idea about those DIP switches. Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Christian Kuhtz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 12 Feb 1997 18:54:52 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5dt3ls$5m9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5dqr30$k6h@tribune.usask.ca> <5dsqcu$mp2@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftc-co2-16.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Feb 12 12:54:52 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I have bathed NeXT keyboards in various edable liquids from time to time, including but not limited to coffee, apple juice, orange juice etc. They will survive it just fine. Unplug'em. Possible open the case to dry'em off and wipe the gunk off. And then let them dry for a couple of hours. I've found them pretty undestructable (thank god). Copy my behavior on your own risk. ;-) ikouts@adonis.clnsnet.ariadne-t.gr (Ioannis Koutselas) wrote: >Guys, my keyboard once had coffee on it. Some idiot tried to harass me. >So as any chemist would know sugar is not dissoved by ethanol >nor acetone. Acetone is bad for he plastic. So is methanol. > >What i used to do in extreme cases is bath the damn thing >in water and soap. then dry it. Keyboards with the >gummy dry very slow and so do the ones with the >fluffy plastic. The next has switches as keys and that dries >them faster. but these switches can be replaced at a small cost. >YOu only need a soldering iron and solder. > >Sorry for the english! >John > -- Christian Kuhtz (personal) (work) ".com is a mistake." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Christian Kuhtz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: 12 Feb 1997 17:34:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5dsuv5$5m9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <5dsgml$q0h$1@shadow.skypoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftc-co2-16.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Feb 12 11:34:29 AM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) jalegre@andante-systems.com wrote: >Anyone have any experience serving a NeXT Printer to NT using the >OpenStep 4.0 Samba binaries? Do I need some sort of postscript >translator on the NT side? I've never tried it, but a generic PostScript queue on the NT side should do the trick. Best regards, -- Christian Kuhtz (personal) (work) ".com is a mistake." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf_see_signature From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:42:05 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 In article <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu>, altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: > To get a PostScript printer working with a NeXTstation as fast as a NeXT > printer, it would have to be attached through the ethernet, no? So how much > would I have to spend on a PostScript > > with the equivalent How much $ would I need to spend? Would it have to have a > network card on it? There are several ethernet to LW boxes available, typically costing $300. So a NeXT printer is much cheaper than such a box plus a decent LW. Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color NeXT printer cartridges Date: 12 Feb 1997 17:48:02 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: <19970212174700.MAA28846@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5dqok0$cps@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com The NeXT Color Printer was a re-worked Canon BJC-8xx--this is very similar to a Lexmark 4079 series. Cartridges from either should work, and ought to be available from any decent computer store. William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!babb.sdsu.edu!user From: babb@sdsu.edu (J.Babb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Color Monitor Repair? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:08:52 -0800 Organization: Absolutely None Lines: 55 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5dnk83$mhp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: babb.sdsu.edu In article <5dnk83$mhp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>, atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: > Hello, All! > > My black hardware slowly approaches the inevitable end of its useful > lifespan, and I do what I can to stretch it out for as many more months as > possible. Perhaps someone can help me. > > My (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel is progressively deteriorating. Symptoms > are as follows: when the ambient room temperature is below a certain > threshold, a distortion appears, worse toward the middle of the screen, > less severe toward the top and bottom. The image in the distorted area > warps to the left, occasionally "snapping" back to true, but inevitably > remaining skewed until I can bring the room temparature up for a long > enough time. If this were all there was to it, I could live with the > problem, but the threshold temperature keeps rising, until now I must keep > my office at a sweltering 82 F (27 C). > > Now, I know it's possible to replace these things, but I'm reluctant to > shell out radical cash if that can be avoided. Since I have a grounding > strip, a soldering iron, and little to lose, I wonder if anyone can give > me a hint as to whether this is simply a loose contact I can re-flow, and > if so, where I might find it? > > Please respond by email if you can. > > Regards, > > Alex > ATL2@lehigh.edu Hmmm... Mine's just the opposite. No warp but the middle is OK anbd the top and bottom are screwed up. It definitely is in the vertical deflection section. Now who makes these? Are Sony or Hitachi OEM? If so can we get a schematic. At this point paranoia kicks in: I'm not responsible for loss of life, limb, money, bad hair days, ANYTHING) Regardless of schematic, seems that the circuit is non-linear so _I_ would trace back from the output of the vert ckttill you see a linear ramp the components just past that point are probably the culprit. I have a question: Could anybody give me specs on the sync signals for this monitor? -- ------------------------ Jeff Babb ------------------------- Life is a tragedy for those who feel and a comedy for those who think. babb@sdsu.edu http://rohan.sdsu.edu/staff/babb/web/ ...flames to /dev/null ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!news.grnet.gr!news.ntua.gr!ikouts From: ikouts@adonis.clnsnet.ariadne-t.gr (Ioannis Koutselas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 12 Feb 1997 16:16:30 GMT Organization: National Technical University of Athens, Greece Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5dsqcu$mp2@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr> References: <5dqr30$k6h@tribune.usask.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: isosun.ariadne-t.gr X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Guys, my keyboard once had coffee on it. Some idiot tried to harass me. So as any chemist would know sugar is not dissoved by ethanol nor acetone. Acetone is bad for he plastic. So is methanol. What i used to do in extreme cases is bath the damn thing in water and soap. then dry it. Keyboards with the gummy dry very slow and so do the ones with the fluffy plastic. The next has switches as keys and that dries them faster. but these switches can be replaced at a small cost. YOu only need a soldering iron and solder. Sorry for the english! John #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.sgi.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!babb.sdsu.edu!user From: babb@sdsu.edu (J.Babb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: My (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:20:59 -0800 Organization: Absolutely None Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: babb.sdsu.edu Could anybody give me specs on the sync signals for the (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel monitor? Also I've got a Color NextStation and the (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel Monitor. How do I get the system to work? Or do I? Forgive me, I'm new to the NeXT. -- ------------------------ Jeff Babb ------------------------- Life is a tragedy for those who feel and a comedy for those who think. babb@sdsu.edu http://rohan.sdsu.edu/staff/babb/web/ ...flames to /dev/null ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.texoma.net!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!brokaw.wa.com!not-for-mail From: Pei-Te Kao Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT color printer? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:33:41 -0800 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33020D05.60DB@halcyon.com> Reply-To: pkao@halcyon.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm106-ip26.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Hi - Just wondering - having heard a lot about the NeXT laser printer - how about the color printer? where can I find info and spec about it? is it good? can it work with Mac or ? How does it compare to the 400 dpi laser printer? Thanks! Pei-Te #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!disco.iinet.net.au!opera.iinet.net.au!news From: "Giraudo1" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:18:25 GMT Organization: iiNet Technologies Lines: 23 Message-ID: <01bc18e8$83845b60$281f3bcb@giraudos.avon.net.au> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: oak.avon.net.au X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Cache-Post-Path: oak.avon.net.au!unknown@ppp09.avon.net.au Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27192 comp.sys.next.software:28022 I have installed OS 4.0 on a number of machines with EIDE hardware. I had problems until I placed the CD ROM second in line to the hard disk off the same EIDE output. After this it installed like a baby. I found it easier to install than Win95 and a lot easier that out UNIX based OS's. If you have problems email me, I will help if I can. simon g. giraudos@avon.net.au RM DAscenzo wrote in article ... > Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected > when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? > Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the > WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult > is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Sincere thanks, > -Ron > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: "Carl A. Carlson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Should I Buy Apple Laserwriter Plus ? Date: 12 Feb 1997 12:27:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> X-Posted-By: @198.68.42.81 (ccarlson) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm a Mac programmer. My NeXT Station is on order. I can buy an Apple Laserwriter Plus very cheap. Will it work on the NeXT Station? Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!odin.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!news.cas.org!usenet From: syw29@cas.org (Sean Walton - D26) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:30:11 GMT Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5dt5o3$1t9@srv13s4.cas.org> References: Reply-To: syw29@cas.org NNTP-Posting-Host: openn26aws.cas.org Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24720 comp.os.linux.hardware:70153 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:27056 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:27217 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:124124 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24585 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:99414 comp.sys.next.hardware:27194 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27314 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44606 On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Keith Wiley wrote: > > > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean > > come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a > > break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the > > transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. > > That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just > > gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. You should be able to get IDE drives for $0.09-$0.11/MB and $0.19-$0.25/MB for SCSI. -Sean Walton, KB7rfa #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.orst.edu!news From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz formated size Date: 12 Feb 1997 20:13:44 GMT Organization: Oregon State University Lines: 61 Message-ID: <5dt89o$cl5@news.orst.edu> References: <5dh4ss$ekr@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh) NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.oce.orst.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: leivian@primenet.com The BSD fast filesystem reserves 10% of the disk, by default, for file system optimizations. It is possible to set the minfree value when creating the filesystem to be less than 10% to maximize usable disk space, but there is a price to be paid when the disk is filling up. IMO, with the bigger disks available today and the file sizes of typical files being the same, the 10% limit is overkill. This should probably be reduced. Perhaps you have noticed that the NEXTSTEP system and other UNIX systems do not have disk de-fragmentizer programs like in Window NT and 95, and MacOS . This is because UNIX can minimize the disk fragmentation given the 10% minfree threshold and file system optimization for space. From the man pages on mkfs(1) and fs(4): Minfree specifies the minimum percentage of free disk space allowed. Once the file system capacity reaches this threshold, only the super-user is allowed to allocate disk blocks. The default value is 10%. fs_minfree gives the minimum acceptable percentage of file system blocks that may be free. If the freelist drops below this level only the super-user may continue to allocate blocks. This may be set to 0 if no reserve of free blocks is deemed necessary, however severe performance degradations will be observed if the file system is run at greater than 90% full; thus the default value of fs_minfree is 10%. fs_optim specifies whether the file system should try to minimize the time spent allocating blocks, or if it should attempt to minimize the space fragmentation on the disk. If the value of fs_minfree (see above) is less than 10%, then the file system defaults to optimizing for space to avoid running out of full sized blocks. If the value of minfree is greater than or equal to 10%, fragmentation is unlikely to be problematical, and the file system defaults to optim- izing for time. -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim F. Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 541-737-2270 Oregon State University fax: 541-737-2064 104 Ocean Admin Building Corvallis, Oregon 97331-5503 NeXTmail, MIME, Sun, or Ascii mail ok! -------------------------------------------------------------- In <5dh4ss$ekr@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Bob Leivian wrote: > I just added a Jaz drive to my next, it works fine but I had a question > I reformated the 1 gig drive from a PC filesystem to a NeXT file system > and mounted it, 'df' said size=998 meg, but the browser said only 877 meg > was available when the disk was empty > > I shouldn't complain because I was living with only 250 meg before but... > > is this normal, was a partition reserved for a bootable disk swap area > > where did that 121 meg go > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.177.184.15!everest.iserv.net!news From: Jeff Trestrail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: VLB SCSI: Adaptec 2840 or Buslogic ?? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:18:53 -0500 Organization: Iserv.net, Grand Rapids, MI, USA Lines: 9 Message-ID: <330233BD.5241@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: trail@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: gr-max7-56.iserv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) I am installing NS/Intel 3.3 on another machine, and have a choice between using an Adaptec 2840 or a Buslogic VLB SCSI card. Any particular reasons to prefer one over the other?? Thanks. Jeff Jeff Trestrail trail@iserv.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: comiskey1@aol.com (Comiskey1) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DX-4/100 good performance? NEED HELP SETTING UP INTEL BOX! Date: 12 Feb 1997 23:48:50 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 27 Message-ID: <19970212234801.SAA16091@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5drhac$dj5@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Bill, Thanks for your insight! The documentation I have with R3.2 says I have to have a SCSI CD-ROM drive. Is this wrong? The reason I would probably go with a DX4-100 is because of costs. I really can't afford a Pentium motherboard and CPU. I am not worried about upgrading CPUs anyway. Could I really go with a Cyrix or AMD? I was not sure about that either. Unfortunately, I am not an expert at Intel architectures. What I got from your answer was that I am by no means limited by SCSI controllers. I was going by the list of drivers given on NeXT Answers on the web. I couldn't find what drivers were already supported by r3.2. I can't spend $200+ for a SCSI controller anyway! I was looking in Computer Shopper for a system I could put together. The choices blew my mind and just added to my confusion over building one of these boxes... Any additional help from you or anyone else is greatly appreciated. I would love to join the rank of NeXT users, but I am starting from scratch. Thanks!!! -DC -Electric Eye "Keep the Faith and Defend It!- "You think you've private lives Think nothing of the kind. There is no true escape I'm watching all the time." >Judas Priest, Electric Eye, 1982 (comiskey@netaxis.com) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!137.202.128.5!newsgw.mentorg.com!news From: Dion Dock Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: is Daydream alive? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:10:32 -0800 Organization: Mentor Graphics Lines: 4 Message-ID: <33026A08.64B1@mentorg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bonk.wv.mentorg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; U) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:28029 comp.sys.next.hardware:27198 Is the Daydream box still being sold? thanks, -dion #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Dortmund.Germany.EU.net!news From: EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de (Thomas Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printing Problems with HP LaserJet 5MP Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 10:36:36 GMT Organization: Landesamt fuer archaeologische Denkmalpflege Sachsen-Anhalt) Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5dkckp$h9c@news.Dortmund.Germany.EU.net> Reply-To: EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de NNTP-Posting-Host: lfa.hal.eunet.de X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Hi, we use tow HP LaserJet 5MP printers in our office with external HP network adaptors. Often the printer "eats" print jobs, the printer gets the job, but doesn´t print it. Turning the printer off and on and resend the job prints the job fine. This problem occurs with print jobs from NEXTSTEP and Windows machines. I tested different PPD, but tit doesn´t solve the problem. Thanks for any help Thomas Thomas Richter, Landesamt fuer archaeologische Denkmalpflege Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uunet!in1.uu.net!132.175.109.6!news.sandia.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT monitors on Mac or PC? Date: 13 Feb 1997 00:03:04 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5dtlno$l7l@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Cc: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com In James B. Frazer wrote: > In article , henry@norr.com (Henry > Norr) wrote: > > > Even if you don't have a solution, I'm curious about a couple of issues > > with this display: What's its frequency and resolution when running on the > > NextStation? And what exactly is the role of the soundbox? > > All NeXT displays are 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz. The 17" is 92 dpi and the > 21" is 75 dpi. The sound box provides integrated mike and speaker, as well > as line-outs and headphone jack. No idea about those DIP switches. > No, the NeXT ADB color monitors (Sony Trinitron) are 72 Hz refresh rate. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sumter!icardena From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Millenium PowerDoc Edition? Date: 13 Feb 1997 05:53:11 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5dua87$5aj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5ddp73$10u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: sumter.cso.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) writes: > > Is anyone currently using the PowerDoc edition of the Matrox >Millenium? A sales rep from Matrox said it "should work" but I would >like someone to say "yes it definitely works." > Well... "it definitely works." :) I just installed my new Millenium PowerDoc and it works fine with the standard Matrox driver. Unfortunately, it seems Windows has benefitted a heck of a lot more than NEXTSTEP did. The video performance improved tremendously (something like 300%) under Win95 but only about 20% (using NXBench) under NEXTSTEP. I suppose it's all the spiffy "Windows acceleration" type things the matrox has. I'll have to play around with it some more to see if I can't tweak things. Any suggestions? PS I was upgrading from a generic S3-868 based PCI card. -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO Sites Technical Support "I am of the opinion that pizza and beer together are far superior to either in isolation." -James E. Quick on the Apple/NeXT merger #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i435.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I am looking for NeXT magazines Date: 13 Feb 1997 05:05:26 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i435.oro.net If you have NeXT magazines that you wish to sell, I am searching for any NeXT based magazines like NeXTWorld, NeXTJournal, NeXT On Campus, etc... Let me know what you have and I will buy them from you. Thank You, Thomas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!nntp.mbnet.mb.ca!news.escape.ca!usenet From: wmitchell@escape.ca (William Mitchell) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:49:15 GMT Organization: escape communications corp. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: mx1dl38.escape.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.326 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2550 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:132538 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86322 comp.sys.next.hardware:27203 On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:59:08 GMT, Andy Eder wrote: >Make sure that you buy a motherboard capable of supporting the MMX. A lot >of people are buying the MMX only to realise that their motherboard >doesn't support it. To support the MMX, you need a dual voltage capable >motherboard - that is, a motherboard that can supply a 2.8v and 3.3v to >the MMX's core and i/o. Performance wise, I would definitely recommend >the MMX if you're in a position to purchase one. Another option is to wait for Intel's MMX 3.3v chip. This chip will work on single voltage P75-200 mainboards. Although, I'm sure Intel's pricing will be much like their previous overdrive chips (too much money). William Mitchell Anti-Spam email option enabled - remove the last l in my name to email me ;) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 13 Feb 1997 08:36:31 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fsc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca In article <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com>, planetary wrote: >My friend Lyle, the Apple-authorized service technician, is presently >repairing my NeXTprinter. > >We need a part number for the paper pickup roller assembly in the >NeXTprinter to properly do the job. Anyone know what that part number is? > >...................................kris >-- >Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. You don't need the complete roller, even if it is available. Just take the rubber jacket off the roller, turn it inside out, and replace it. Good as new (if you had the skills to disassemble and re-assemble everything correctly and without damage). I've done it. Does not take long. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.0.229.10!in-news.erinet.com!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!nntp.mainstreet.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!tcp.com!priss From: priss@tcp.com (Lisa Richardson) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 13 Feb 97 16:51:58 GMT Organization: The Commnet Project Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: tcp.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2557 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:132610 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86349 comp.sys.next.hardware:27205 Hmmm... I was under the impression it is not the problem of just having a Dual Voltage MB, but an MB that supports the MMX chip period. There have been a lot of Dual Voltage Pentium Boards and Dual Voltage Pentium CPUs (In fact, I happen to have DEALT with a Dual Voltage Pentium CPU, but couldn't tell that it was until I tried turning on the computer and it acting as if it had no CPU). -- Lisa Richardson (aka Priss on about a half dozen MUCKs) priss@glia.biostr.washington.edu and/or priss@anime.tcp.com "Live fast, Die young, and make hearts melt as you go away" - Lisa Richardson Priss the MUF Wizard of _AnimeMUCK_ at anime.tcp.com (206.40.34.130) 2035 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.enteract.com!ix.netcom.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!semelab.demon.co.uk!semelab.co.uk!semelab From: semelab plc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: !!!WRAM HELP!!! Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:59:15 +0000 Organization: semelab plc Distribution: world Message-ID: <83AtvGATjeAzEww2@semelab.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: semelab.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: semelab.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 1.12 Lines: 13 Please help! Does anyone out there have ANY application notes relating to Samsung's 1MB KM4232W59 ?? I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct place, but any help would be greatly appriciated. TIA Tim Hawkins -- semelab plc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Should I Buy Apple Laserwriter Plus ? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:37:43 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk Lines: 17 In article <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> "Carl A. Carlson" writes: > I'm a Mac programmer. My NeXT Station is on order. I can buy an Apple > Laserwriter Plus very cheap. Will it work on the NeXT Station? Yes... I picked one up very cheap too - it will hang off the serial port. I made up the cable myself (I think the printer has the wrong gender socket on, so it's not a standard cable, but its not that hard to figure out). Software installation is totally point and click, and it just works. Downside is that the printer only does serial at 9600. A neater option is to hang the printer off a mac with appletalk, run lpd on the mac, and get the NeXT to print to the Mac via ether. $an #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news1.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!misgate.mcgh.org!usenet From:  mparent@unix-mikesparc.mcgh.org (Mike Parent) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Compatible Notebooks? Date: 13 Feb 1997 14:50:33 GMT Organization: Mount Clemens General Hospital Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5dv9np$jr7@misgate.mcgh.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: unix-mikesparc.mcgh.org X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Anyone have any experience/insight about which notebooks are supported by NeXT 3.3? We have one, a Toshiba Tecra 730, but are looking at some other models..all high end, but I'm not sure if I can get drivers,etc for them. Any info is much appreciated Mike #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net!not-for-mail From: ayadi@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: US Robotics Sportster Vi 28.8 Int Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:15:38 GMT Lines: 6 Message-ID: <3303841b.36524376@news1.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-182-155.nc.us.ibm.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Have a US Robotics Sportster Vi 28.8 Internal Modem for sale. Asking $65 + shipping. If interested please email me at ayadi@ibm.net. Jauvid Wilmington, NC #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!hub.org!visi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!news.grolier.fr!usenet From: Eric Levenez Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which modern CD-ROM drive to attach to a NeXTstation? Date: 13 Feb 1997 21:38:25 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5e01kh$i0r@news.grolier.fr> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-195-29.neuilly.club-internet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.publish.cdrom.hardware:26394 comp.sys.next.hardware:27210 wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: >I'm currently looking for a new CD ROM drive which I intend to attach >to a NeXTstation mono (at least for a while). Apart from the fact >that I probably can't exploit all features on my trusty black box, my >range of choices is now as follows: > >- Toshiba XM-3801B >- Plextor 12Plex (caddy version) >- Pioneer DR-U12x >3. I understand from earlier postings in c.p.c.h that Toshiba does DAE > (Digital Audio Extraction) only with annoyingly simple speed, while > the Plextor can do this at a much higher speed with the supplied > Windows software? Is it possible only with proprietary software or > is there any freely available software (besides the OmniCD 0.5alpha > version under NEXTSTEP) that can be used for all drives? I have an old Toshiba x2 (XM3401B). I can record CD-audio to HD, or play it while working. I use playcd a command line program. Look at playcd or play3401. >4. Toshiba seems to be available only in a tray version. Does anybody > know of a caddy version? What about the Pioneer drive? I have a "PIONEER CD-ROM DR-U10X Rev 1.07", that is a 10X, not a 12X for 4 months. It works fine. No caddy for me. >5. Has anybody successfully used any of these drives at a NeXTstation? It works without problem on my NeXTstation. If I do a "dd if=... of=/dev/null bs=20k", I can read a CD-ROM at 1,5 MB/s, but if I write the file on a disk (a 4BG HD), I get 500 or 600 KB/s. This is because the SCSI of the NeXTstation is old and slow. >6. Somebody told me that drives above 8x speed are noticeably louder > than slower drives. Is that true? The PIONEER 10X make no noice, only tha fans of the external box is making noice. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 -------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.191.160.4!van-bc!n1van.istar!news.InterGate.BC.CA!not-for-mail From: kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT Organization: Internet Gateway Corporation Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1s28.intergate.bc.ca X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2564 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:132698 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86384 comp.sys.next.hardware:27211 pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) wrote: >Stephen Lee writes: > >I went to a local PC dealer and he said that the 166-MMX can be > >plugged into my socket-7 Endeavor board which only supports 3.3v. > > > >I would like to know if this is true. >It is patently false; you may want to avoid that dealer in the future. >I cite from the introduction to application note "AP-580 Voltage >Guidelines For Pentium Processors With MMX(TM) Technology": > This application note is of particular importance due to the new > core voltage of the Pentium processor with MMX technology. Its split > voltage (2.8v core; 3.3v input/output) is in contrast to the Pentium > processor's unified voltage (3.3v core and input/output). > Motherboard designs must be modified to accommodate the Pentium > processor with MMX technology's new core voltage. Refer to Pentium > Processor Flexible Motherboard Guidelines (order #243187) for > additional information. >Convince yourself: http://developer.intel.com/design/mmx/applnots/243186.htm Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, I mean what has he got to gain? He is probably referring to Intel's MMX 3.3v overdrive chip which will be out soon enough. This will of course allow Pentium boards to support MMX. Hope this helps Stephen make up his mind, too. Roy. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!news3.isp.net!usenet From: *lore@carabelli.com* (Kenneth Chen) Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which modern CD-ROM drive to attach to a NeXTstation? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:58:07 GMT Organization: Carabelli Dental Systems Lines: 48 Message-ID: <3303f01c.369167@news.isp.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: the.evil.twin.carabelli.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.publish.cdrom.hardware:26408 comp.sys.next.hardware:27212 On 12 Feb 1997 16:53:51 GMT, wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: >I'm currently looking for a new CD ROM drive which I intend to attach >to a NeXTstation mono (at least for a while). Apart from the fact >that I probably can't exploit all features on my trusty black box, my >range of choices is now as follows: > >- Toshiba XM-3801B >- Plextor 12Plex (caddy version) >- Pioneer DR-U12x All are good choices, but out of the three, only the Plextor 12Plex will perform as advertised. The 3801B 15x does not really read at 15x - only on certain areas of the CD. >2. Plextor claims to deliver "true 12speed", i.e. 1.8MB/sec data > transfer rate "at every location on the disc". Toshiba says their > drive has "up to 2,250 KB/s sustained data transfer rate". > (Similar values for random access Plextor:105ms, Tosh.: <99ms) Toshiba's 2250 kb/s is only on the outside (or was that inside?) of the disc. Either way, it is only on a section. It is true that the Plextor can maintain a 12x speed on every section of the disc. I have one. > > Now, the Toshiba seems to be marginally faster, although the Plextor > features a 512KB buffer (Tosh. 256KB). Which one's faster for what > purpose? (Does the larger buffer have any noticeable advantage?) The Tosh is NOT marginally faster. If you put them side by side, there is a good chance that the Plextor will perform better due to its CLV head which allows it to read at 12x everywhere on the disc and its 512KB buffer. >6. Somebody told me that drives above 8x speed are noticeably louder > than slower drives. Is that true? Yes. They are. The vibration is quite loud, especially if the drive is not secured to the drive cage. Kenneth -- NOTE: Please remove the asterisks (*) from my e-mail to reply. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news.ppp.net!usenet From: Lars Immisch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:21:37 +0100 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Lines: 21 Message-ID: <33031561.CAA@pobox.com> References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <5dsgml$q0h$1@shadow.skypoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.163.97.16 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: Lars Immisch (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (WinNT; I) X-Priority: Normal jalegre@andante-systems.com wrote: > Anyone have any experience serving a NeXT Printer to NT using the > OpenStep 4.0 Samba binaries? Do I need some sort of postscript > translator on the NT side? > > All comments welcome. > You don't need samba, you can also install the so-called TCP/IP print services on NT. This gives you vanilla lpr access on the NT box. NT comes with a postscript printer driver, but I did experience trouble with printing postscript from NT. To my knowledge, the postscript was at fault. Lars -- mailto:immisch@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~immisch Yesterdays yellow yoyo can make you yawn today #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!agate!pbrown From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 14 Feb 1997 03:42:48 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ashkhabad.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.8.3 (BETA) UNIX) In article , Paul R. Brown wrote: >Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the >keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you >from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) >So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? >I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much >as I can without introducing more liquid. Thanks to everyone for their advice. I ended up disassembling the keyaboard and rinsing the mechanics briefly in normal, cool water. I spilled 5-10cc of Snapple lemon iced tea in there, but an overnight dry (after violent shaking) did the trick and all of the keys work again. I've gotten used to the "\" up high now (I had programmed it to ALT-/.), so I'll stick with the old keyboard for a while. Cheers. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net!not-for-mail From: "Chang Song" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT detects two IDE hard disk instead of one; Stuck Date: 14 Feb 1997 05:06:28 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: <01bc1a5e$a6494940$f3ab48a6@junghwa.third-wave.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-171-243.pa.us.ibm.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Hi. I am stuck. I played around Norton disk editor and touched NeXT hard disk's boot blocks and some other blocks. Can't boot. Even when I tried sd()mach_kernel on boot prompt with floppy NeXT installation disk, it seemed that most of devide drivers were damaged, too. I decided to delete my Windows 95 (internal Fujitsu 1606TAU EIDE 1GB) and installed NIS3.3. Just for the hope that I could be able to recover some important files on my home directories. I only have one disk on primary IDE controller. I downloaded latest EIDE driver. Jumper setting on the drive is OK. Actually I have been disabled internal IDE controller to boot from SCSI disk on which current NIS 3.3 is installed. When NeXT tried to recognized IDE hard disk, it report two hard disks are present and resetting hc0. And stuck there very very long time. Then I saw it finally recognize Fujitsu disk. Then wait for long for other non-exist hard disk. Then reseting again. Then when it finally gives up, fatal error. I have a choice either to reboot or go into monitor. Has anyone had the same problem? Can anybody enlight me on this? Thanks in advance. ---------- Chang Song (csong@ibm.net) Concurrent Technologies Corp. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <#ZY6KEgG8GA.57@uptgmsnb01> Date: 14 Feb 1997 06:03:09 GMT Control: cancel <#ZY6KEgG8GA.57@uptgmsnb01> Message-ID: Sender: scanning@XXX1324noreply.com (Cyber Services) X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.89.123.24!nntp.inet.fi!crawler.dlc.fi!usenet From: "Paul McGuire" Newsgroups: comp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted BIOS upgrade. Please assist. Date: 14 Feb 1997 09:41:13 GMT Organization: Data Link Connections Lines: 5 Message-ID: <01bc1a5b$284b4960$3523fbc2@paulmc> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip53.pp.dlc.fi X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom:44164 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:132823 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86440 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:52159 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video:146450 comp.sys.next.hardware:27216 Hi. I got a Microstar 5129 M/B and wish to upgrade the BIOS to make it compatible with MMX chips. Only problem is I dont know where to get the BIOS upgrade from. Please help.Paul.... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 14 Feb 1997 08:57:55 -0500 Organization: PHCS Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com I am currently looking at my options for adding a bunch of devices to my primary workstation. I alternately run NS3.3 and OS 4.x on this box. I currently boot from a FW drive on a 2940UW. I have the option of upgrading my current internal FW cable, and purchasing several wide to narrow adaptors. This and the other miscelleny required would cost me about $150. A better solution would be for me to purchase a narrow PCI SCSI adapator. Since slower devices including tape and CD would hang off of this, it would also improve my overall throughput for backups. I know that the boot sequence supports a different driver for the Boot drive and the CD, but am unsure whether this configuration was just intended to support booting from ATAPI CDs or whether multiple SCSI cards are fully supported. Does anyone know if this kind of configuration is supported? -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: ismora Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optical disk, dying ? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:12:04 GMT Sender: ismora Message-ID: <199702141612.QAA12581@altern.com> Reply-To: ismora X-Mail2News-User: nobody@altern.com X-Mail2News-Path: altern.com Errors-To: ismora X-Mail-Gateway: WWW-Mail 2.00 beta X-Real-Host-From: 194.133.58.131 Lines: 25 Hello, I have acquiered an used Sony SMO-500 magneto-optical drive with SCSI interface. The drive makes stranges noises when the heads move, like if a rubber belt was ripping or something like that. I equally had the SCSI interface reporting "HARDWARE ERROR" during data copy, in which case all (computer and drive) hang up. Does it sound like the drive has reached the end of its life ? Did someone have the same problems, suggest a diagnostic ? Is there something to do/replace before it's too late ? Thanks for your help, Ismora. PS: please reply by mail as I have seldom access to this newsgroup. PS2: I know this message is more relevant on comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage (it was posted in that group too), but I allowed myself to post here as NeXT stations were often delivered with OD, and I suppose NeXT users are experienced with OD failures ... Thanks for your comprehension. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 14 Feb 1997 09:05:39 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961006] David Hill wrote: : In article <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com>, : planetary wrote: : >My friend Lyle, the Apple-authorized service technician, is presently : >repairing my NeXTprinter. : > : >We need a part number for the paper pickup roller assembly in the : >NeXTprinter to properly do the job. Anyone know what that part number is? : > : >...................................kris : You don't need the complete roller, even if it is available. Just take the : rubber jacket off the roller, turn it inside out, and : replace it. Good as new (if you had the skills to disassemble : and re-assemble everything correctly and without damage). I've done : it. Does not take long. I already did this, thanks. But I still want the part number to properly do the job. Anyone know what that part number is? .............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!firewall!ceco!echu From: echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com (Eric Chu) Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: bpo-ess Message-ID: Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> <5d2857$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5d772r$fdi@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:59:16 GMT Lines: 26 Christian Neuss (neuss@NO.SPAM) wrote: : altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: : a lot of development, you might consider running a Pentium as a : compile server anyway. A *huge* improvement in compilation speed. Ergh...stupid question from an engineer. Let's say I have gcc on both my pentium pc and my black running openstep 4.0 developer. I am trying to modify a makefile for tcl/tk to run on black. Can I have the pc do the compilation with all of the switches, lib and everything else done on black? many thanks in advance semi-clueless professional. eric chu echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com : Regards, : Chris : -- : // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." : // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ : // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ridgecrest.ca.us!nntp-server.caltech.edu!corvette.mst6.lanl.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac ADB mouse on Turbo not registering Date: 14 Feb 1997 02:17:05 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5e0hv1$l7l@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) I tried replacing the NeXT ADB mouse (which cramps my hand) on a Turbo Color NeXTstation with an Apple Desktop Bus Mouse II. 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Thanks for any info. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!usenet@news.umbc.edu From: Gregory Pacholczyk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Printer problems Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:10:04 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> Reply-To: gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-055.dialup.umbc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: unknown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27222 comp.sys.next.misc:25056 My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? 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Only pure sexual use is allowed. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Christian Kuhtz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Printer problems Date: 14 Feb 1997 18:43:47 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5e2bp3$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftc-co2-16.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Feb 14 12:43:47 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27224 comp.sys.next.misc:25058 Gregory Pacholczyk wrote: >My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in >your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with >next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? If so what is this >fix. This can be a problem with the mechanics within the printer, however, I also noticed that differently weighted paper makes a heck of a difference as well. Buy paper specifically for laser printers and not just copier paper. Mine here will work fine with for instance the multipurpose HP paper, but it will barf on any plain xerox paper. -- Christian Kuhtz (personal), (work) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 14 Feb 97 14:30:45 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-18-22.access.one.net In-reply-to: jq@papoose.quick.com's message of 14 Feb 1997 08:57:55 -0500 In article <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com>, jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) writes: I am currently looking at my options for adding a bunch of devices to my primary workstation. I alternately run NS3.3 and OS 4.x on this box. I currently boot from a FW drive on a 2940UW. I have the option of upgrading my current internal FW cable, and purchasing several wide to narrow adaptors. This and the other miscelleny required would cost me about $150. A better solution would be for me to purchase a narrow PCI SCSI adapator. Since slower devices including tape and CD would hang off of this, it would also improve my overall throughput for backups. My system has both an NCR810(Fast) and an NCR825(Fast/Wide, only using the narrow connector, though) in it. It works fine, but ... o It took some putzing to get both working for both NS3.3 and OS. Weirdly enough, the order of the cards made a difference - one OS would boot with them one way, the other wouldn't boot unless they were swapped. Eventually I fixed this with a "Location" entry in the Instance0.table for the OpenStep driver, now I can boot either. o I am unable to boot from the NCR825 card when the NCR810 card is present, though I can boot fine from the 810 when the 825 is present, or from the 825 when the 810 isn't present. This is _probably_ due to interactions with the NCR SCSI BIOS on my motherboard (I'm assuming it just takes over and does it's stuff). o I've not tried boot-prompt magic to do the bootsector boot from the 810, and toss control off to a disk on the 825. It would _probably_ work, though, assuming you had the OS there configured correctly. Since these adapters were only $68 (810) and $95 (825), it might be a reasonable solution. If your motherboard has an onboard SCSI BIOS and you want to boot from the 2940UW, you'll _probably_ have to hack a BIOS without the SCSI BIOS and flash it over your current BIOS. I'd assume that with no onboard SCSI BIOS, your motherboard _can't_ go ape on this stuff :-). Alternately, you could put a small bootstrap disk on the NCR card, and have it boot NS/OS off of a disk on the 2940UW card. If this works, it would be a reasonable option, because you could get the 2940UW advantages (whatever those might be), while still being able to work with the CD-ROM and NeXT's install disks. NeXT's install stuff _may_ not care if the CD-ROM is on the second controller, but I'm pretty sure that out of all the operating systems out there, _some_ of them are going to care. Of course, there's always the possibility that your 2940UW will go into mortal combat with an NCR card. One option would be to get an UW NCR card for $125 or so (I think that's where they are) plus an NCR 810 card for $70 or so, and dump the 2940UW. :-). Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!taurus!adnline1191.adnc.com!user From: cward@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cable NeXT to HP 500C Date: 14 Feb 1997 19:06:07 GMT Organization: adnc.com Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.158.11.91 Is anyone using a Desk Jet 500C with Black Hardware? If so is the mini Din 8 to DB 25 pinouts the same as in the ZS Man pages? How did you wire yours? I made null modem according to Man pages. Printer just keeps loading and spitting out unprinted pages Like it is stuck on form feed... Help! CW #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Christian Kuhtz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 14 Feb 1997 18:42:13 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftc-co2-16.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Feb 14 12:42:13 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Having read all the different suggestions for how to repair that roller, what is the proper way to disassemble he NeXTprinter in the first place? planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) wrote: [..] -- Christian Kuhtz (personal), (work) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!usenet@news.umbc.edu From: Gregory Pacholczyk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Printer problems Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:14:27 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3304B993.1382@gl.umbc.edu> References: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> <5e2bp3$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-055.dialup.umbc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: unknown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27228 comp.sys.next.misc:25059 Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > Gregory Pacholczyk wrote: > >My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in > >your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with > >next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? If so what is this > >fix. > > This can be a problem with the mechanics within the printer, however, I also > noticed that differently weighted paper makes a heck of a difference as well. > Buy paper specifically for laser printers and not just copier paper. > > Mine here will work fine with for instance the multipurpose HP paper, but it > will barf on any plain xerox paper. > > -- > Christian Kuhtz (personal), (work) Well mine feeds intermitently. sometimes i can hear the motor wind up and then it feeds, but most of the time i hear the engine wind up and not the motor. then it tries to print with no paper feeding. -Greg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!usenet@news.umbc.edu From: Gregory Pacholczyk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:16:43 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3304BA1B.4552@gl.umbc.edu> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-055.dialup.umbc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: unknown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > Having read all the different suggestions for how to repair that roller, what > is the proper way to disassemble he NeXTprinter in the first place? > > planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) wrote: > [..] > > -- > Christian Kuhtz (personal), (work) it's not the roller. it has something to do with the motor. Sometimes i hear it wind up, but most of the time it doesn't -Greg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news1.digex.net!news.BLaCKSMITH.com!root From: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 14 Feb 1997 19:46:03 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5e2fdr$2gs@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> Reply-To: leo@blacksmith.com NNTP-Posting-Host: uni.blacksmith.com James E. Quick writes > I know that the boot sequence supports a different driver for the > Boot drive and the CD, but am unsure whether this configuration > was just intended to support booting from ATAPI CDs or whether > multiple SCSI cards are fully supported. > > Does anyone know if this kind of configuration is supported? Our file server has two 2940AU adapters in it. Up 16 days: 2:45pm up 16 days, 18:32, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.25, 0.39 No problems. leo. +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXT/MIME) | | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? Leo, your mom called. | +-------------------------------------------------------+ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.fast.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.179.156.40!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.dcom.net-analysis,comp.dcom.net-management,comp.os.netware.connectivity,comp.os.netware.misc,comp.os.netware.security,comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.networks.noctools.bugs,comp.networks.noctools.d,comp.sys.northstar Subject: cmsg cancel <23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 14 Feb 1997 21:53:53 GMT Control: cancel <23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Sender: cruel@xs4all.nl (Bart) X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gdm From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 15 Feb 1997 06:19:38 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) spdwell@adnc.com writes: > Has anyone tried to speed up a NeXT? Has anyone tried a clock doubler? > Anything? There are basically two ways to speed up a NeXT[1]. o If you have a non-Turbo (25MHz vs. 33MHz) machine, and if you can find one (I'm not sure if they're still being sold), Sam Goldberger (http://www.orb.com) used to sell a 'Pyro' 50MHz accelerator card. o If you have a Turbo (33MHz) machine, and if you can find one, and if you're willing to pay around two thousand dollars, there are the legendary Nitro CPU cards. These are 40MHz+cache 68040 boards that only fit into the Turbo-series systems. These are pretty much the only options. I haven't tried putting a Newer Technologies' chip replacement board into a system yet, but I have a feeling that it simply will not work. Perhaps Sam Goldberger could post some technical morsels here for those of us who are more interested? gdm [1] 68040-based machines only. I know of no way to accelerate an '030 system, other than upgrading to an '040 board. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!phys-residents From: eugenem@ix.netcom.com (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Printer problems Date: Sat, 15 Feb 97 01:03:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5e323p$sqf@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> References: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: det-mi4-03.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Feb 14 7:04:57 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27232 comp.sys.next.misc:25062 In article <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu>, gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu wrote: >My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in >your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with >next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? If so what is this >fix. >-Greg A common problem that occurs is that the rubber pick-up roller that grabs the paper out of the paper tray gets a little dry. The problem is characterized by a partial feed where the paper is only partly sucked into the printer. I managed to get rid of this problem by getting this stuff called Rubber Renue and using it to clean off the roller. Should work with any rubber rejuvnating compound. Eugene Mah --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah, M.Sc. eugenem@rad.hfh.edu Medical Physics Fellow eugenem@ix.netcom.com Physics and Engineering Division "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit, MI me." Winnie the Pooh http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/ PGP KeyID = 0x1F9779FD or 0xE37A1591 PGP key available on request O- --------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news1.best.com!news.lanminds.com!news.walltech.com!hsnx.wco.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: 14 Feb 1997 17:08:23 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 148 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5e32a7$li@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> Reply-To: mpaque@wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: octans25.wco.com In article <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> jalegre@andante-systems.com writes: > Last week a hardware engeneer at NeXT told me that all cubes need > 72-pin low profile SIMMS with a min speed of 80 and max speed set only > by $$$. He did say that anything above 100 was a waste of $$$, but he > did say that 72 pin low profile were a must. The company formerly known as NeXT hasn't had hardware engineers for a while... Older designs used 30 pin low profile SIMMs, the NeXTStation Color used 72 pin 80 ns SIMMs, and the Turbo machines used 72 pin 100 or 70 ns SIMMs. From Le FAQ: References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin "Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo" NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz), NeXTcube (68040-25MHz): Number SIMM slots: 16 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin low profile> SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) Maximum RAM: 64 MB The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously. Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines, but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect parity errors. It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Bell Atlantic/DecisionOne, keepers of the remaining hardware parts. The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph. NeXTdimension boards (i860): Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 80 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32) Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT) NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to fit and work. (NeXT Marketing didn't know these existed. Engineering designed for them - mpaque) NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300: Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) Maximum RAM: 32 MB Faster SIMMS (70/80 ns) don't make the memory system work any faster than the 100 ns units. NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz): Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 2 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 80 ns5 SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36) Maximum RAM: 32 MB NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300: Number SIMM slots: 4 SIMM group size: 2 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36) Maximum RAM: 128 MB For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns. NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your machine uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this by using the ROM monitor s print memory configuration command m. Start with your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As soon as the message Testing system... disappears, press command-command-tilde ( on the numeric keyboard). Under these circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor, type m and press return. Turbo-designed boards including new 25 MHz NeXTstations and all Turbo systems will return messages reporting the memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old 25 MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually 8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin, 70 nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only four sockets. The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data with fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance. "70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus transfers. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!cmcl2.nyu.edu!newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu!news.cc.sunysb.edu!news From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTStation Power Supplies Date: 3 Feb 1997 15:14:01 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5d4vbp$6fo@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu Does anyone know a company from which I can purchase a new power supply for an old black NeXTStation turbo monochrome machine? I'm looking for a suitable replacement part and the part number. I had a machine die on Friday. -Richard Larson SUNY Stony Brook #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!out2.nntp.cais.net!in1.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 15 Feb 1997 05:27:30 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5e3hg2$opd@news2.cais.com> References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.177.56.103 In-Reply-To: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 I am currently running two SCSI controllers in my Pentium Pro system. One is the Adaptec 2940UW and the other is the Adaptec 2940N. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!taurus!NewsWatcher!user From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RE info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 15 Feb 1997 05:41:39 GMT Organization: adnc.com Lines: 2 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.158.20.87 Has anyone tried to speed up a NeXT? Has anyone tried a clock doubler? Anything? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Printer problems Date: 15 Feb 1997 07:50:50 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5e3psq$djc@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: fsc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27237 comp.sys.next.misc:25066 In article <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu>, Gregory Pacholczyk wrote: >My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in >your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with >next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? If so what is this >fix. >-Greg If it jams on input, the rubber jacket on the input roller needs to be taken off, reversed, and put back on again. This requires disassembling and re-assembling some parts, so you need suitable skills and information. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html helps. If it jams on output, you need a new gear wheel. I haven't had to do that to mine yet. Check out the above web site. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 15 Feb 1997 07:45:40 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5e3pj4$dbc@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fsc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca In article <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > >Having read all the different suggestions for how to repair that roller, what >is the proper way to disassemble he NeXTprinter in the first place? > > >planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) wrote: >[..] > >-- >Christian Kuhtz (personal), (work) Check out http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!cwix!uunet!not-for-mail From: Robert Trout Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help with Nextstep 3.2 install Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:37:48 -0600 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3305CA3C.3E9A@capecod.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.255.214.183 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) I purchased a Turbo Color Nextstation with no hard drive. I installed a new Hawk 2XL 1.0 GB (ST31055N) drive as SCSI device 1. I then attempted a complete installation of Nextstep 3.2. However typing the Command ~ keys after the “Testing System...” message does not enter the ROM monitor. Instead the dialog box alternates between “Loading from disk...” and “ SCSI error” messages. What am I doing wrong? Does the new disk have to be initialized in an existing Next system before installation? Thanks for your help. Robert Trout #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.fast.net!news.pgh.net!usenet From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP C1536 DAT dip switches Date: 15 Feb 1997 14:46:50 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5e4i8q$8rq@dropit.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: venetia.pgh.pa.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) HP doesn't tell you what all the dip switches do, but they do provide recommended settings for a number of Unix systems. Unfortunately, they don't mention NeXT. Can anybody provide settings for the NeXT cube, and while you are at it, explain what the various switches do? Thanks. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!corvette.mst6.lanl.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will HP IIISi toner cartridge work in NeXT LaserPrinter? Date: 15 Feb 1997 02:18:02 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5e36cq$n9o@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Cc: sanguish@digifix.com I need to buy a toner cartridge for a NeXT LaserPrinter. The NeXT FAQ says: >Subject: M9. What are some other sources of toner cartridges and trays for the NeXT laser >printer? > >The toner cartridge is a standard EP-S cartridge, the same that fits the HP LaserJet >III and some other printers. > >[From: sanguish@digifix.com] > >Any HP LaserJet II or III will fit. HPLJ4mSI cartridges do NOT fit. Now, the only HP toner cartridge with their "Microfine" toner for a LaserJet III is the HP# 92291A, for the HP LaserJet IIISi, 4Si, and 4Si MX printers. And HP's Web page lists an EP-S cartridge for the IIISi. But, is this the HPLJ4mSI cartridge that sanguish@digifix.com says doesn't fit? Thanks for any clarification, Lee -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news-out.communique.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.233.85.167!shore!news From: *Bards@shore.net (Glenn Visser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: 15 Feb 1997 15:26:58 GMT Organization: Glennserv Netware 4.11 Lines: 85 Message-ID: <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm3-38.lynnma.shore.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (beta 2) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24827 comp.os.linux.hardware:70478 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:27242 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:27371 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:124356 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24665 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:99734 comp.sys.next.hardware:27242 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27401 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44702 In article , bear@indra.com says... >emon@gte.com wrote: >> Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse. They sell used/refurbished hard drive >> as new. > >Uh, that's a classic example of _fraud_. Are you absolutely sure >that they represented the drives as "new," or did you overlook fine >print stating that the drives may have been used or refurbished? > >This brings up another point that I've found a few sites trying. >Someone's web page with "These drives may be used" >is probably not legal notice. A clean paper font in 4 points is >marginally legible, but I've seen some web sites where the text >was literally only 2 or 3 pixels high! Likewise a disclaimer in >white-on-white probably has no legal weight. > >> And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive >> starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has >> expired. Several years ago I worked for one of the Gray marketers and we sold a load of Drives to Bason so I can probably clarify something here. I imagine the situation is still much the same with Bason and many others. I don't work at this place anymore, I'm now an MIS dept "suit". Those of you aware of the practice I detail please bear with me. There are people in this world who just have an office and phone lines and they are the middleman between what someone has and what someone wants. I worked for one such place that dealt with computer parts. I was the resident nerd and part of my job was to figure out what we had bought, and give the lists to the sales people. Lets say for example that DEC planned to build 1000 units of a PC and only really sold 500. The parts for the other 500 are sitting in the warehouse taking up space, and in the case of the hard drives, Seagate has sold the drive to DEC so the warranty period clock is ticking from the moment of sale. DEC dumps the product when the warranty expires to DEC. (which at the time was only a year from sale) I assume they do it because they do not wish to risk selling product that if it fails does not give DEC a way to replace the unit under warranty. This product is sold in large lots auction style to dealers "in the know" and then the guys with the phones start schlepping it around piecing it out. In the case of Bason we had bought 3 tractor trailer loads of DEC PC parts and Bason bought a dozen pallets of a Seagate 330mb (st2383n) scsi drive. Approx 1500 units. The Bason dude himself flew out from the west coast to inspect the lot and personally watched me load the shipment and seal the trailer. ***** The drives were brand new, never been opened! ***** ***** Still in the DEC OEM box. ***** But the warranty was expired with Seagate. So this is what Bason and many others are probably doing. You are getting a new drive at a great price. And it IS new so they can say that, but it's end of life product. You need to know what you are buying and don't assume that what someone is selling is the current model. We were selling a 330mb "new" scsi drive 3 1/2 years ago for $200 individually. A great price at the time, and we had people breaking down the door for them. We sold over 4K of these drives in a few weeks. I think Bason got the lot of 1500 for $165 ea so that was nearly $25K and the reason he was present to inspect. I will say this. At the time this deal went down he (Bason) was polite and thorough and his check was good. I had to prove to him the drives were good by formatting some random drives he picked right off the pallets, and then as I said he was present when we went to the warehouse and watched over the loading. I would buy from them, and just did try to buy a drive from Bason this week but they were out. But I know what questions to ask and have done my research so I know if I'm buying a current model or not. Hopefully all readers of this thread are now more educated also. And I can still see the look of fear on Basons face when halfway through loading he noticed I also had an equivalent amount of 170mb drives on pallets in identical style boxes sitting side by side with the 330's. We had to stop and I had to prove I hadn't been giving him 170's. Me and a (50?)year old chinaman in a suit crawling through the truck. :-) Another point of interest in a related thread, someone asked about Yorkshire Computer in this group recently. John was buying these drives 50 at a wack. He would come by and we would load them in his station wagon. This was before he moved out to Wisconson. I was sorry to see him go. He was a decent guy and another who's money was good. I would buy from him. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SIMMs for '040 cube Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:55:00 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 43 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) I just purchased an '040 cube (though it hasn't even arrived yet). The box has only 8 megs of memory (8 one-meggers) so of course I want to populate it as heavily as possible immediately after its arrival. Unfortunately I'm getting conflicting information about the memory for it. The previous owner says that it uses the same 30 pin simms that macs used to use. A reply from a simm supplier who spams these groups regularly says the next requires a special 9 chip variety of simm. What's the truth? We no longer have any quantities of 30 pin simms here at all--they've gone the way of the old macs. All I've been able to get my hands on are 4 two-meg simms from an old IIsi. Will the cube handle 2-meg simms or will it only function with 1 or 1 meg units. In the mac world, only the IIsi and the IIci would work with 2-meg simms. What is the largest simm the cube handle? The smallest? (512K for example--I've found a few of those too). I'd like to place an order for both additional memory and a 2-gig disc such that I have the components on hand when the box arrives next week. Thanks for your replies. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SIMMs for '040 cube Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:55:00 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 43 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) I just purchased an '040 cube (though it hasn't even arrived yet). The box has only 8 megs of memory (8 one-meggers) so of course I want to populate it as heavily as possible immediately after its arrival. Unfortunately I'm getting conflicting information about the memory for it. The previous owner says that it uses the same 30 pin simms that macs used to use. A reply from a simm supplier who spams these groups regularly says the next requires a special 9 chip variety of simm. What's the truth? We no longer have any quantities of 30 pin simms here at all--they've gone the way of the old macs. All I've been able to get my hands on are 4 two-meg simms from an old IIsi. Will the cube handle 2-meg simms or will it only function with 1 or 4 meg units. In the mac world, only the IIsi and the IIci would work with 2-meg simms. What is the largest simm the cube handle? The smallest? (512K for example--I've found a few of those too). I'd like to place an order for both additional memory and a 2-gig disc such that I have the components on hand when the box arrives next week. Thanks for your replies. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help with ISDN on NeXTstation Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:01:22 GMT Lines: 28 In article <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com> "Jason M. Smith" writes: > Hi all, I recently purchased a NeXTstation package, and as part of the > deal, a Hayes ISDN Extender was thrown in. I'd like to at least look > into the possibility of using the station as the central hub for a PPP > hookup to my work, via ISDN. A couple of questions however... > > 1) I don't have any documentation for the ISDN adapter. Are > there any problems known with this unit? Is it simply plug 'n' play, > as I suspectit to be? > The problem is that the development for this device was discontinued long ago and ISDN implementations in the US were rather rudimentary in those days. There are only two exchanges tested with it, an early AT&T and a Northern Telecom unit. Support for the much more widely deployed European systems was planned but never started... You can try. The features were great (at least very promising), I've been told. But to state it loud and clear, the thing would be a venture into the field of software archeology. P.S.: there is also a Hayes ISDN extender in my collection of NeXT memorabilia. But the downgrade to NS 3.0 was too much for my guts ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf_see_signature From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:26:46 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 I notice that most of the houses that sell grey market drives are careful to explain what they are. I bought a drive from Bason a year or more ago, and have no complaints about their service. They were quick to replace an incompatible interface card. I wonder if the original poster tried to get a replacement from them, rather than the drive maker. I will say that the external drive enclosure they used was unsuitable, with inadequate airflow for a "hot" drive. And the fan has now failed, so I can't use it for the odd small drives lying around here. But it was essentially free so ... Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 15 Feb 1997 12:32:30 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5e530e$6kt@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961006] Christian Kuhtz wrote: : Having read all the different suggestions for how to repair that roller, what : is the proper way to disassemble he NeXTprinter in the first place? I'm no service technician, and I feel embarrassed to even take a stab at a technical summary of how to disassemble the printer. But if you remove the hinged lid, unscrew everything that looks like it is retaining a nonessential component (read: bezels, facades, etc.), and take care to not force anything, you should be able to disassemble it with not much trouble. After all, if I can disassemble and reassemble an entire Vespa this way, you should be able to do the same with the printer. I remember Lyle was having problems with the key that retains the roller on the cylinder, but it wasn't too difficult for him to get it locked into place. It took him about two hours to learn how to disassemble and reassemble the printer the first time he laid hands on my printer, and about a half an hour to do the same the second time. I suppose if you get stuck, you could email me and I could put you in touch with Lyle. Or I'm sure that for a reasonable fee, Lyle could refurbish your entire printer. But that would require getting the printer's components list, which is really what I'm after. ...............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!panix!news.panix.com!jbm From: jbm@panix.com (John Mignault) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Install problem on white hardware Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:38:49 -0500 Organization: The New York Times Lines: 59 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: jbm.dialup.access.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.4 Hi, I'm trying to install Openstep 4.1 on an Intel box. I want to install to a 1GB hard drive attached to a Adaptec 1542CF. I set the card switches and software config as described in the NeXTAnswers doc on the web, and the disk I'm installing to has been set to SCSI ID 0. There's also a CD and a 2GB disk attached to the same controller, with higher IDs than the 1GB. The installer sees the CD and the disk just fine, and prompts me to install Openstep to the 1GB drive. However, when I go to install, it only offers to create a 431MB partition. Running fdisk indicates that the device itself is reporting its size correctly - 1001 MB - but the bios says it's only 431 MB. This happens whether or not I have the "large drives" setting enabled in the controller bios or not. Attempting to create a larger partition using fdisk directly just yields a "Cannot create that size partition" message. Hardware and software settings are: Switch Block Settings: sw1: off (software control termination) sw2 to sw4: off (I/O Port 330) sw5: on (disable integrated floppy controller) sw6 to sw8: off (BIOS Address DC00) Software Settings Port Address: 330 Host Adapter Interrupt (IRQ) Channel: 11 Host Adapter DMA Channel: 5 Host Adapter SCSI ID: 7 SCSI Parity Checking: Enabled DMA Transfer Rate: 5 MB/sec Host Adapter SCSI Termination: Enabled SCSI Device Configuration Enable Sync Negotiation: no for all devices Enable Disconnection: yes for all devices Send Start Unit Command: no for all devices Host Adapter BIOS (Configuration Utility Reserves BIOS Space): Enabled System Boot (INT 19h) Controlled by Host Adapter BIOS: Enabled Extended BIOS Translation for DOS Drives > 1 GByte: Disabled (I get the same result whther this is enbaled OR disabled) Support Removable Disks Under BIOS as Fixed Disks: Disabled Dynamically Scan SCSI Bus for BIOS Devices: Disabled BIOS Support for More Than 2 Drives (MS-DOS(R) 5.0 and above): Disabled Immediate Return On Seek Command: Enabled Any ideas or suggestiosn you might have are welcomed, especially if there's soemting essentially boneheaded I left out. John ___________________________________ John Mignault Graphics Systems Programmer The New York Times mignault@nytimes.com/jbm@panix.com Be Developer 6941 ___________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 15 Feb 1997 12:34:42 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5e534i$6p0@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <3304BA1B.4552@gl.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961006] Gregory Pacholczyk wrote: : it's not the roller. it has something to do with the motor. Sometimes : i hear it wind up, but most of the time it doesn't If it was the motor, you wouldn't hear it wind up at all, since one motor powers the entire printer using a system of gears. The "sometimes it winds up, sometimes it doesn't" was the result of a bad roller in my case, but YMMV. ..................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: Ryan Watkins Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SIMMs for '040 cube Date: 15 Feb 1997 12:15:10 -0800 Organization: Dimension X, Inc. http://www.dimensionx.com/ Lines: 70 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: shellx.best.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.11/XEmacs 19.14 herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) writes: > Unfortunately I'm getting conflicting information about the memory for > it. The previous owner says that it uses the same 30 pin simms that > macs used to use. A reply from a simm supplier who spams these groups > regularly says the next requires a special 9 chip variety of simm. > What's the truth? > > We no longer have any quantities of 30 pin simms here at all--they've > gone the way of the old macs. All I've been able to get my hands on are > 4 two-meg simms from an old IIsi. Will the cube handle 2-meg simms or > will it only function with 1 or 4 meg units. In the mac world, only the > IIsi and the IIci would work with 2-meg simms. > > What is the largest simm the cube handle? The smallest? (512K for > example--I've found a few of those too). The NeXT HArdware FAQ (available at http://www.omnigroup.com/Documentation/NEXTSTEP/FAQ.html, among other places) seems to indicate that it can take either 8 or 9 chip versions, in either 1 or 4 MB SIMMs. I'm not sure if it can use 2MB SIMMs though. ____________________________________________________________________________ Subject: N1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT? References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin "Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo" NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz), NeXTcube (68040-25MHz): Number SIMM slots: 16 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin low profile SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) Maximum RAM: 64 MB The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously. Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines, but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect parity errors. [One user adds the following unverified claims:] It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Next. You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person. [Jimmie Quan, NeXT Hardware Service, adds:] The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Ryan L. Watkins `silver moonbeams dance in fountains below shining citadels vamp@vamp.org surrounded by silver gates ascending silver stairs www.vamp.org eureka on angelic prayer wafts in and scents the air' -satb #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.magicnet.net!not-for-mail From: wjo@magicnet.net (william overkleeft) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: For Sale AST 910N Active Matrix Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:03:49 GMT Organization: MagicNet, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <330c248a.10368196@news.magicnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm10-14.magicnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 I have put my Laptop AST 910N up for Auction at the E-Bay on-line auction. This is an active matrix display laptop and is in perfect condition. It cost $4000.00 when new 18 months ago. To see a picture of the computer and to bid on it go to: http://www.ebay.com/aw/item.cgi?item=tps3822 This can be a real deal for someone. Good Luck. Bill O. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!tribune.usask.ca!missing.link.ca!not-for-mail From: Geoff Shukin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installation of 3.2 on Intel Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 16:10:22 -0800 Organization: Integritas Systems News Server Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3306506E.CB@link.ca> Reply-To: shukin@link.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: shukin.link.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) I have been thinking of reinstalling NeXT for Intel after a long stint on the shelf. I have sucessfully installed NeXT on this system. It is using the first 900Meg of the drive. My question is what can I do to dual boot between say FreeBSD and NeXT? Thanks Geoff Shukin shukin@link.ca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.computer.org!usenet From: cz@alembic.crystel.com (Chris Zach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color NeXT printer cartridges Date: 15 Feb 1997 22:16:12 GMT Organization: IEEE Computer Society Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5e5cjc$kq8@student.computer.org> References: <5dqok0$cps@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: alembic.crystel.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: gottliej@mathcs.carleton.edu In <5dqok0$cps@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Jeremy Gottlieb wrote: > Hi. > We have a color NeXT printer that needs new ink cartridges. > Does anyone out there know either of the following: > 1) A place to get NeXT ink cartridges. > 2) Whether there are any other ink cartridges that will work > in the NeXT color printers. We suspect that cartridges from a Canon > printer might work, but don't know the model numbers or anything. > > Thanks. > > You want the Cannon BJI643C,Y,and M cartridges. They will work in a NS Color, as will any carts for a BJC820 printer. As for the black, I don't know. I bought a refill kit for a BJI643 (NOT THE SAME CART!!!), and I just keep on refilling my black cart. Currently I am on fill 8 or something... Office Depot in MD stocks them. Staples does not. Mind you, they are quite expensive. -- Time to take time For Spring will turn to Fall In just no time at all... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 15 Feb 1997 22:12:22 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5e5cc6$8rs@news.us.net> References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) wrote: >I know that the boot sequence supports a different driver for the >Boot drive and the CD, but am unsure whether this configuration >was just intended to support booting from ATAPI CDs or whether >multiple SCSI cards are fully supported. > >Does anyone know if this kind of configuration is supported? Supported, yes. Fully supported? No. Assuming you sort through any BIOS related problems, hard drives and the like should work without much fuss. However, scanners, the NeXT Color Printer, and other devices with their own drivers might not. They will most likely have to "hang" off the boot controller since the drivers for them do not take into account multiple SCSI controllers. They could, just most of them don't since it's not a popular configuration. There might be a workaround by setting every sg (scsi generic device) to point to another controller, but I never had a chance to try it out. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!enterprise.mpi.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!transfer.stratus.com!francis From: francis@az.stratus.com (Francis Hartojo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTcube to ViewSonic monitor. Followup-To: poster Date: 15 Feb 1997 22:23:46 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5e5d1j$4kg@transfer.stratus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fortapache.az.stratus.com Hi, I'm just wondering if somebody has successfully connected a NeXTcube to an SVGA monitor? In my case the monitor would be a ViewSonic 17PS. Where can I get the cable (DB-15 to RGB or DB-15 to VGA)? Would it even work? Any setup gotchas? Any relevant info would be greatly appreciated. The FAQ explains how to connect a colour monitor to a colour NeXTstation, does that also apply to the cube (I think it's black and white)? Please send your responses to me directly: francis@az.stratus.com. Thank you very much. -- +------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+ | Francis Hartojo | Ph.: 602-852-3195 [Speaking for myself, | | Stratus Computer, Inc. | 800-294-1344 x3195 nobody else.] | | francis@az.stratus.com | Fax: 602-852-3099 | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <413853649874@digifix.com> Date: 16 Feb 1997 02:23:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 347 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <22496856059808@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:57654 comp.sys.next.announce:4049 comp.sys.next.hardware:27256 comp.sys.next.software:28075 comp.sys.next.misc:25070 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25371 comp.sys.next.bugs:4197 comp.sys.next.programmer:22747 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Message-ID: <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: bchin@us.net Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:48:06 GMT Lines: 10 In <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> Bill Chin wrote: > was enough for me to order the AMD K5 133, but my vendor screwed > up and sent me a genuine new Intel Pentium 133. I'm not > complaining since the Intel is $50 more. :-) I read somewhere that the AMD K5 is considerably faster than the Intel. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.enteract.com!news.wwa.com!NewsWatcher!user From: april@wwa.com (april levin) Newsgroups: chi.forsale,alt.wanted,chi.wanted,comp.forsale,comp.forsale.computers,comp.hardware,comp.misc.forsale,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.nex,comp.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,alt.forsale,comp.misc Subject: WTB: complete NeXTstation system Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 19:59:29 -0600 Organization: geekxpos Lines: 12 Message-ID: Reply-To: april@wwa.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pool20-005.wwa.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.wanted:187 comp.forsale:11777 comp.forsale.computers:8877 comp.sys.next.misc:25071 comp.sys.next:151 comp.sys.next.hardware:27258 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16422 alt.forsale:63926 comp.misc:27194 i am looking for any complete NeXTstation system including monitor, hd (minimum 500mb), RAM (minimum24), keyboard, ethernet card, and anything else you got for under $500. chicago area, but i will pay for shipping if the offer is worth it. send me email back cause i dont check newsgroups for responses often. thanks, april april levin * box 1611 skokie, il 60077 * wwa.com/~april #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wetware!news.tbcnet.com!news.structured.net!in1.nntp.cais.net!news.us.net!usenet From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: 16 Feb 1997 03:34:36 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: nikita.richmond.us.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) wrote: >In <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> Bill Chin wrote: > >> was enough for me to order the AMD K5 133, but my vendor screwed >> up and sent me a genuine new Intel Pentium 133. I'm not >> complaining since the Intel is $50 more. :-) > >I read somewhere that the AMD K5 is considerably faster than >the Intel. The AMD K5 *is* faster than a Pentium at the *same* clock speed. However, the AMD K5 133 is actually a 100Mhz chip. With the P-speed benchmarks, AMD claims the AMD 100Mhz K5 is the same speed as a 133Mhz Pentium for integer operations (and thus calls it a 133 chip). I have heard that the AMD's floating point speed is not as fast as the 133Mhz Pentium, but that's not substantiated. See http://www.sysdoc.pair.com/ and http://www.amd.com/ -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!centauri.hq.nasa.gov!newsfeed.gsfc.nasa.gov!cs.umd.edu!hecate.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!usenet From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 040 cube motherboard and floppy drive Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:56:13 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> Reply-To: dutky@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: annex12-64.dial.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) I have an 040-25 based cube and it looks like there is a cable connector for a floppy drive (the connector is on the PCB behind the DSP port and has the same number of pins as a floppy connector on a slab). Is this indeed a connector for a floppy drive and if so were there cubes that had floppy drives in them? -Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!info.uah.edu!pluto!wli From: wli@pluto (Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: FS: NeXT Printer Toner Cartridge $28 Date: 16 Feb 1997 09:57:41 GMT Organization: The University of Alabama in Huntsville Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5e6lml$jtf@info.uah.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.229.2.78 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27261 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16426 I have a brand new, unopenned toner cartridge for the NeXT laser printer. $28 + shipping. Please drop me a line at: wli@cs.uah.edu if you are interested. Thanks. -wei, wli@cs.uah.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.246.124.37!nntp.newsfirst.com!nntp.crosslink.net!news.magicnet.net!news.supernet.net!nntp.cntfl.com!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT monitors on Mac or PC? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:29:26 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, James B. Frazer wrote: > All NeXT displays are 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz. The 17" is 92 dpi and the > 21" is 75 dpi. Not quite. Newer revision monitors (usually on ADB systems) run at 72 Hz. This chart of the models comes from the FAQ: Monitor NEW (72hz) OLD (68hz) 17" mono ACX (N4000b) AAA (N4000a \& N4000) 17" color ADF (N4006) ABG (N4001) 21" color ADB (N4005a) ABH (N4005) -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!198.82.160.249!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vistachrome.com!news.supernet.net!nntp.cntfl.com!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Should I Buy Apple Laserwriter Plus ? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:45:48 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: "Carl A. Carlson" In-Reply-To: <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> On 12 Feb 1997, Carl A. Carlson wrote: > I'm a Mac programmer. My NeXT Station is on order. I can buy an Apple > Laserwriter Plus very cheap. Will it work on the NeXT Station? Yes, but very slowly (as you'll have to hook it up to a serial port at 9600 bps). I'd get a used NeXT Laser Printer instead - they're 400 dpi, 8ppm, use standard EP-S toner cartridges (like Apple LaserWriter II's or HP LaserJet II or III's), are reasonably fast (not to mention they're black. :)). They can be found in good shape for $200-$250 used. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: '040 cube config? (warning--newbie questions) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:09:03 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 91 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) Contrary to an opinion expressed elsewhere in the NeXT groups, I have found the experienced readers and participants here to be _very_ helpful and eager to assist. Indeed, I am very nearly ashamed to have taken such advantage of so many of them when I know they are busy with real work--I just hope they realize how much easier they have made my real work (and I'm sure others as well) through their generosity. And so, to further A) expose the depth of my ignorance, and, B) continue exploiting the good will of the group, a preface, followed by a series of questions: Like so many new readers here, we are a Mac shop eagerly beginning the process of porting our applications to Openstep and beginning to make plans to deploy a number of openstep machines in three laboratories now under construction in a new building. These will consist of a combination of Intel and PPC machines. At present, several of us have acquired some pretty high end Intel equipment for our offices and we're learning. Since I learn best by doing (and doing and doing and doing) I've also purchased a used '040 cube that I'm in the process of reconfiguring for home use. To that end I've ordered a new 2 gig scsi drive, acquired another smaller drive for swap files, an internal Apple CD-ROM drive, purchased 64 megs of RAM, and the 4.1 academic developer bundle. My questions: 1) since a cube has no floppy, how am I to install the 4.1 CD? I acquired the cube with 3.x on the original 345 meg drive. Will I be able to connect both the internal CD (internally in the optical slot), AND somehow connect the new 2 gig drive internally as well while leaving the original drive in place? Thus I would be able to boot from the original drive, format the 2-gig and install 4.1 on it from the CD. (I could, I suppose, temporarily install the 2-gig in an external case) 2) I haven't opened a cube (yet) since the new components haven't yet arrived--are there 3 scsi connectors internally? Will I ultimately be able to permanently install the 2-gig, CD & swap drive internally? What kind of brackets should I acquire? 3) The monitor is a gray-scale one. Does an '040 cube support color if I were to acquire a color monitor for it? 4) Is there any way to print to an HP Deskwriter 550c? At present the home office consists of two desktop macs connected via 10-baseT and a hub. My wife's mac runs Apple's localtalk bridge software which allows printing from either machine to the HP (on localtalk). Both macs dial-in to the campus network via an ARA server (each has its own phone line) for both the appletalk and tcp/ip services of the campus network (I know it sounds like this might set up a loop since they're also connected locally, but this hasn't been a problem at all). Can anyone suggest a way that we can connect the cube to the 10 base-T network here for printing? CAP? NeXT drivers for the HP? Could the NeXT serve as a print server for the HP and eliminate the localtalk bridge software? 5) If I wanted to add tcp/ip services to the cube in the above environment, does anyone have any recommendations (short of a third phone line) as to how one might do this? I have heard of mac-based software products that allow a small net to share a single PPP acount. We could certainly live with only one mac having appletalk access to campus (my wife and I both occasionally have to use appletalk-only services--though that is probably going away soon), if the NeXT and one mac were to share a single PPP connection. Lots of newbie questions, but I'd appreciate any assistance. Thanks. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '040 cube config? (warning--newbie questions) Date: 16 Feb 1997 19:57:24 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 107 Message-ID: <5e7or4$nkt@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article , David Herren wrote: [About a 25-MHz '040 Cube] > Will I be >able to connect both the internal CD (internally in the optical slot), >AND somehow connect the new 2 gig drive internally as well while >leaving the original drive in place? If your cube don't have 4 sets of holes on its drive chassis, you won't be able to mount 3 drives. But, you can just rig it up so that your 2GB drive just sticks out of your cube during your installation. Make sure you get a SCSI cable with 3 connectors for each drive. Oh yeah, only CD-ROM drives that use caddies will work. > are there 3 scsi connectors internally? No, just SCSI 1 connectors. SCSI-3 didn't exist when cubes were built. > Will I ultimately be >able to permanently install the 2-gig, CD & swap drive internally? What >kind of brackets should I acquire? Refer to my 1st paragraph. You can "set" your swap on top of your 2GB or CD-ROM drive, if your chassis has only 2 sets of drive holes, provided your HDs are 1" (1/3 height). >3) The monitor is a gray-scale one. Does an '040 cube support color if >I were to acquire a color monitor for it? Only if you get a NeXTDimension, and you'll only be able to use the 68Hz model, not the Sony trinitron, which refreshes at 72Hz. >4) Is there any way to print to an HP Deskwriter 550c? If it has Postscript, and it's a network printer (ethernet), it will work. If either isn't true, you may want to look at CAP. Look at: www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html. >5) If I wanted to add tcp/ip services to the cube in the above >environment, does anyone have any recommendations (short of a third >phone line) as to how one might do this? TCP/IP is built in. You'll want to add TCP/IP to your Macs. If the Macs run 7.5.5 and above, they should work. I posted the following a while back: >Subject: How to install CD-ROM drive in a Cube >From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) >Date: 1996/11/24 >Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > > >I've wanted to do this for the longest time and finally, yesterday... >Perhaps this should go into the FAQ? > >Disassembled my Apple external CD-300 and my '040 Cube. > >Took out my 1/2 height 5-1/4 Seagate. > >Installed my CD-ROM drive using the OD holes, lower screw holes of my >CD-ROM drive, using a set of smaller screws. Standard screws holding >HDs in my Cube won't fit the CD-ROM drive's holes. > >Replaced my Seagate w/ a 1-GB 1/3 height HD. HD now just "sits" on >top of CD-ROM drive. > >Reinstalled NS from CD-ROM, and copied needed files from my Seagate >to my Fujitsu. > >Works like a charm. Initially, it didn't look like CD caddies will >insert or eject but it works fine though the drive looks a bit low. >Due to the opening's design on the Cube, I even have access to the >eject button via a paper clip, but no access to manual eject nor >headphone/volume--no matter, I have my other computer for stuff like >that. > >I think my Cube runs cooler due to the extra opening. > >Oh yeah, need: power splitter and SCSI cable w/ at least 3 >connectors. CD-ROM drive isn't terminated so make it 1st physical >drive in chain. > > > >Tried some experimentation on my non-Turbo Cube. With my HD at id 0, >floppy at id 3 and CD-ROM drive at id 4, I can't boot a CD-ROM w/out >the special boot floppy; but if my CD-ROM drive is at id 0, and my >HD something else (like 2), CDs will boot--but my HD won't boot. >Tried bsd(x,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sdx for HD and CD. > >Does anyone know what's exactly needed (besides a Turbo upgrade, I >don't want to lose my OD) to make my CD-ROM bootable? I've heard that >the latest Firmware ROM _isn't_ the answer. I have v63 or some old >version like that. Anyone out there w/ intimate NeXT hw experience >they'd like to share?? Regards, Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.flint.umich.edu!news.gmi.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 040 cube motherboard and floppy drive Date: 17 Feb 1997 00:38:11 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 23 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5e899j$p09$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: dutky@wam.umd.edu In <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> "Jeffrey S. Dutky" wrote: > I have an 040-25 based cube and it looks like there is > a cable connector for a floppy drive (the connector is > on the PCB behind the DSP port and has the same number > of pins as a floppy connector on a slab). Is this indeed > a connector for a floppy drive and if so were there > cubes that had floppy drives in them? Yes.. And Yes. 2.88M as a matter of fact. > -Jeff Dutky > Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!cdouty From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: 040 cube motherboard and floppy drive Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:42:24 GMT Lines: 28 Sender: cdouty@netcom14.netcom.com In article <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu>, Jeffrey S. Dutky wrote: >I have an 040-25 based cube and it looks like there is >a cable connector for a floppy drive (the connector is >on the PCB behind the DSP port and has the same number >of pins as a floppy connector on a slab). Is this indeed >a connector for a floppy drive and if so were there >cubes that had floppy drives in them? Yup, that's a floppy connector. I believe that all of the 040 boards have them. The Turbocube must have shipped with a floppy since it does not support the OD. I imagine that most cubes shipped with floppies once the OD was deprecated. I just bought a Turbocube from Sam Goldberger which has a floppy and a drive tower which supports multiple half-height devices. The original cubes only had holes for two FH drives. There is also a different faceplate for cubes with a floppy vs. and OD. As a nice bonus the normal floppy is _much_ faster than the PLI SCSI floppy which I used to use. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!cdouty From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: '040 cube config? (warning--newbie questions) Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <5e7or4$nkt@hpax.cup.hp.com> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:57:58 GMT Lines: 27 Sender: cdouty@netcom14.netcom.com >>3) The monitor is a gray-scale one. Does an '040 cube support color if >>I were to acquire a color monitor for it? > >Only if you get a NeXTDimension, and you'll only be able to use the >68Hz model, not the Sony trinitron, which refreshes at 72Hz. My 17" trinitron tube works fine on either a NeXTdimension or color slab at 68Hz. I do prefer the 21" Hitachi monitors though, if you've got the space. For the original poster, you need a card called the NeXTdimension (ND) to get color display from a cube. The ND is a fairly unique color card in that it includes a i860 and substantial backing store RAM in addition to the VRAM framebuffer. It does some PS processing itself. (Fairly limited, NeXT changed R&D focus before fully utilizing the ND.) You can put three ND cards into a cube (if you can find them) and get a seemless workspace across 3 color and one B&W monitors. That said, the ND is fairly expensive and rare. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!thor.cmp.ilstu.edu!news From: "Eric A. Dubiel" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 4 Sale:Canon object.station 41 logic board & case Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:11:18 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Lines: 159 Message-ID: <3307BDCB.68D4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Reply-To: eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: h0010111.smith.ilstu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------14F39541F39" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; U; PPC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------14F39541F39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Sale by owner: Canon object.station 41 logic board & case. Nothing else, no RAM, CPU or power supply, etcetera. Has on board Sound in/out, 10-Base T Ethernet, Video display, floppy support, 2 serial ports, 1 parallel port. Serious offers will be >$150 U.S. Email prefered or call 309-436-1682 Thanks! 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These are 70 Nanosecond SIMMs and appear to work correctly. I checked the Workspace Info and it confirmed that I now have 32 Megs of RAM. Is there another way to check to make sure this RAM is working correctly? Does anyone know of any problems inherent in using EDO RAM? Thanks, Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!news From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 17 Feb 1997 07:36:59 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> Reply-To: don@globalobjects.com NNTP-Posting-Host: brain.misckit.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25383 comp.sys.next.hardware:27271 I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) and EIDE CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've been trying to get it to play audio CDs, but it refuses to cooperate. I cannot get it to work with CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has a similar configuration and has been able to make this work. When I put in an audio CD, it will auto-launch OmniCd.app, but the app is incapable of locating the drive. (Cmd-O/cmd-o displays an empty list, so it obviously can't see the drive for some reason.) I guess I'd have been better off with a SCSI drive, but it is too late for that now. I've got what I've got...and I would like to get it working if possible. :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com My home page #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '040 cube config? (warning--newbie questions) Date: 17 Feb 1997 07:36:40 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5e91q8$2g2@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5e7or4$nkt@hpax.cup.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article , Chris Douty wrote: >My 17" trinitron tube works fine on either a NeXTdimension or color slab >at 68Hz. Really? From NeXT's docs in NeXTanswers, it seems as though the image will be distorted and shifted if NDs and non-turbo Cubes are used in conjunction with the 17" Trinitron monitors (N4006). I'm probably confused... Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Christian Kuhtz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 040 cube motherboard and floppy drive Date: 17 Feb 1997 07:58:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5e9334$hph@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> References: <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftc-co5-63.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Feb 17 1:58:28 AM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) wrote: > I just bought a Turbocube from Sam Goldberger which has a floppy and a > drive tower which supports multiple half-height devices. The original > cubes only had holes for two FH drives. There is also a different > faceplate for cubes with a floppy vs. and OD. As a nice bonus the normal > floppy is _much_ faster than the PLI SCSI floppy which I used to use. Actually, my cube here has a faceplate (without paint on it, and it looks like there never was paint on it either) with floppy and OD slot. Both devices are fully functional, and I'm fortunate to have an OD that actually does still work. I have threatened to replace it with a Zip or Jaz, but so far I have no reason to move my external replacements inside. ;-) There are one 040/25, and three 030/25 boards in this machine, as well as the floppy, the full-height OD, and a 2GB low-profile Quantum disk. The whole setup isn't precisely terribly well cooled (although I'm about to replace the fan with a higher volume, less noise Papst fan). Best regards, -- Christian Kuhtz (work), (personal) UNIX/Network Specialist, "A German in the U.S., speaking for himself *gasp*" Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!208.212.179.10!rosebud!news.intercon.com!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Date: 17 Feb 1997 06:49:54 -0500 Organization: PHCS Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5e9gl2$agv@papoose.quick.com> References: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> <5d2857$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5d772r$fdi@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com In article , Eric Chu wrote: >Christian Neuss (neuss@NO.SPAM) wrote: >: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: >Let's say I have gcc on both my pentium pc and my black running openstep >4.0 developer. >I am trying to modify a makefile for tcl/tk to run on black. >Can I have the pc do the compilation with all of the switches, >lib and everything else done on black? Yes you can. Make sure that you selected the architectures you will need for all the libraries you installed. Then, to compile for moto only, just make sure the flags '-arch m68k' are present for both the compilation and load phases. If the -arch flag is present it will build FAT object files and executables. It is legal to not include the native architecture. So '-arch m68k' will build FAT files with only moto code in them, no matter what architecture is doing the compilation. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Christian Kuhtz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help!---NeXTStation Color won't power up! Date: 17 Feb 1997 08:57:55 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5e96ij$hph@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> References: <3307A170.1FC8@navix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftc-co5-63.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Feb 17 2:57:55 AM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Sounds like a dead power supply to me. Deepspacetech and Sam Goldberger both have them... PS: Shorter lines (less than 80 characters/line) would be great ;-) Dan Scott wrote: [..] -- Christian Kuhtz (work), (personal) UNIX/Network Specialist, "A German in the U.S., speaking for himself *gasp*" Paranet, Inc. Rocky Mountain Branch, http://www.paranet.com/ MIME/NeXTmail Ok #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!200.220.64.7!news.unisys.com.br!news.embratel.net.br!raptor.centroin.com.br!usenet From: "Lib Informática Ltda" Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Brazilian Representative looks for good products to local market Date: 17 Feb 1997 08:30:10 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda Lines: 22 Message-ID: <01bc1ca8$81469020$0100007f@lib-info-01> NNTP-Posting-Host: du92.centroin.com.br Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:23588 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:64492 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:24892 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:17472 comp.sys.next.hardware:27276 CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0ZXIgbWFya2V0IGlzIGEgbGFyZ2Ugb25lIHdoZXJlIGFsbW9z dCBhbGwgcHJvZHVjdHMgY2FuIGJlIHNvbGQhICAgRm9yIG1hbnkgeWVhcnMsIGZvcmVpZ24gY29t cGFuaWVzIGluIEJyYXppbCBjb3VsZCBub3Qgc2VsbCB0aGVpciBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgc2Vydmlj ZXMgd2hlcmUgYSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcGFueSB3b3Jrcy4gICBUaGlzIGJyb3VnaHQgcmFwaWQg ZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgZWFybHksIGJ1dCBzdGFnbmF0aW9uIGFmdGVyd2FyZHMhICAgV29yc3QsIGEg aGlnaGVyIHByaWNlISEhICAgTm93LCB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIGNvbXB1dGVyIG1hcmtldCBpcyBv cGVuIHRvIGFsbCBmb3JlaWduIGluZHVzdHJ5LiAgIEFuZCBwcmljZSBpcyBub3QgYSBwcm9ibGVt Li4uDQoNCglTbywgd2h5IGRvZXNuJ3QgeW91ciBjb21wYW55IHRyeT8NCg0KCVdlIHJlcHJlc2Vu dCBzZXJ2aWNlcywgc29mdHdhcmUsIGFuZCBoYXJkd2FyZSBmcm9tIGZvcmVpZ24gY29tcGFuaWVz IGRvaW5nIGJ1c2luZXNzIGluIEJyYXppbC4gICBXZSBhcmUgbG9va2luZyBmb3IgY29tcGFuaWVz IHdoaWNoIGludGVuZCB0byBlbnRlciB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIG1hcmtldCB3aXRoIHRoZWlyIHBy b2R1Y3RzL3NlcnZpY2VzLg0KDQoJQW55d2F5LCBpZiB0aGlzIHByb3Bvc2FsIGludGVyZXN0cyB5 b3UsIHBsZWFzZSBlLW1haWwgdXMgLSBMaWIuSW5mb0BlbXByZXNhLmNvbS5iciAtIHdpdGggYW4g b3V0bGluZSBvZiB5b3VyIHByb2R1Y3RzIGFuZC9vciBzZXJ2aWNlcyB0byBsZXQgdXMgZXZhbHVh dGUgaWYgdGhleSBjb3VsZCBiZSBzb2xkIGRvd24gaGVyZSBpbiBCcmF6aWwuDQoNCg0KCVRoYW5r IHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBhdHRlbnRpb24uDQoNClAuUy46IFBlcnNvbmFsbHksIEkgZG8gbWFuYWdl IGEgMiwwMDAgbWVtYmVyIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCBvbiBXaW5kb3dzICc5NSBzb2Z0d2FyZSB3aGVy ZSBJIHdyaXRlIHRoZW0gYWJvdXQgdGhlIG5ldyBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgcmVsZWFzZXMuICAgQW5k IGFwcHJlY2lhdGUgaWYgeW91IGUtbWFpbCBtZSBhYm91dCBuZXcgc29mdHdhcmVzIGFuZCByZWxl YXNlcy4NCg0KDQoNCkNhcmxvcyBCb3JnYXJ0aA0KTGliIEluZm9ybeF0aWNhIEx0ZGEuDQpSaW8g ZGUgSmFuZWlybyAgLSAgQnJhc2ls #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com!user From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:24:34 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Lines: 30 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27277 comp.sys.next.programmer:22770 comp.sys.next.software:28094 I was wondering if anyone can help me - I'm looking for a display driver for a Compaq Contura notebook. None of the drivers included with the OPENSTEP/Mach 4.1 release support any better than black-and-white on the display, though the hardware can handle 8-bit color at 640x480. If I select the Western Digital LCD display driver, it's looking for 1 meg of VRAM, which is more than my notebook has. If I edit the memory maps in 'expert settings' to tell it to look for 300K of VRAM (if the machine supports 640x480x8b it must have at least 300K of VRAM) it still doesn't work; on reboot (either looking for 1 meg or 300K of VRAM) it warns of something like 'unsupported memory width' and defaults to the default VGA driver (which is why I'm getting black and white). Has anyone gotten the Western Digital LCD driver to work with a Compaq Contura 420C notebook or anything similar? Or has anyone attepted to write a driver for this machine? It's a decently solid machine and OPENSTEP handles nicely on it (as long as you stay away from the hardware suspend/hibernate commands, which are flaky with OPENSTEP) and it'd be nice to get OPENSTEP running on it (since the desktop box it had been installed on croaked). Thanks in advance! -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news.supernet.net!news.cyberport.com!not-for-mail From: cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 17 Feb 1997 19:37:24 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm143-75.cyberport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 I am new to the NeXT, i have a color station. I am interested in the DSP and want to find out whats been done in the past with it? any hardware add ons or software projects that anyone knows of, or DSP source code, i would be interested in hearing about it. thanks. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: commendations for tape backup drive Date: 17 Feb 1997 20:14:45 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5eae7l$1en@news3.digex.net> References: <5ea8bp$4pn@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) wrote: > I'm looking for information, recommendations, etc. on purchasing > a DAT tape backup unit for a NeXTstation color running NS 3.0. > A local vendor suggests a WangTek 3200 (refurbished) 2-4GB unit > with 3 mo. warrantee for $900 CAN as the 'best buy'. Is this > reasonable? > Any things to look out for in purchase? Not really. You can get 4gb HP Dat drives for about 500bux. Last time I looked it up on Price Watch (http://www.pricewatch.com/). BTW, price watch is pretty cool. Kinda a Nasdaq for computer stuff :) Go there and check out SCSI DAT drives. You should be able to do much better for a new unit. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin.comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: ? Fax modems Date: 17 Feb 1997 15:30:50 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5e9tja$1hi@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27280 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16438 Can anyone tell me what modems are compatable with OpenStep 4.1? I know the Zyxel modems work but which model is fastest as a modem yet works as a Fax? I heard a rumor that the Supra modems worked as FAX modem also, can anyone confirm this and if so what models and speeds do the work at? Are there any other manufactures of modems that work with OpenStep? Are there aftermarket FAX packages that work with additional modems and manufactures? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 17 Feb 1997 21:51:07 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5eajsb$1en@news3.digex.net> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) wrote: > I am new to the NeXT, i have a color station. > I am interested in the DSP and want to find out whats been done > in the past with it? any hardware add ons or software projects > that anyone knows of, or DSP source code, i would be interested > in hearing about it. There's the MusicKit at CCRMA: ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT Lots of things there. As for hardware, they still make Digital Ears (I think). 503 227-3733 metaresearch <75270.1262@compuserve.com> They also make a good sound editing app, called SoundWorks3.0 -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!128.6.21.17!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!usenet From: "Steven C. Perkins" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:18:28 -0500 Organization: scp Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3308CB24.8C8@andromeda.rutgers.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> Reply-To: sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: niobium-asy-8.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-poster: sperkins@andromeda X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2605 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:133493 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86732 comp.sys.next.hardware:27282 AMD has supposedly re-engineered their MMX chip to minimize the switching penalty. It may be a better MMX chip than the Intel. The question now is whether it matches the FP performance of an Intel chip. SCPerkins regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > the money. -- \\\\\\\\\*///////// Steven C. Perkins sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu User Services Coordinator http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~sperkins/ Rutgers School of Law-Newark http://info.rutgers.edu/RUSLN/rulnindx.html Ackerson Law Library http://info.rutgers.edu/lawschool.html Newark, NJ 07102 VOX:201-648-5965 FAX:201-648-1356 *************************************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!128.6.21.17!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!usenet From: "Steven C. Perkins" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:20:55 -0500 Organization: scp Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3308CBB7.5680@andromeda.rutgers.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> Reply-To: sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: niobium-asy-8.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-poster: sperkins@andromeda X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2606 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:133494 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86733 comp.sys.next.hardware:27283 AMD has supposedly re-engineered their MMX chip to minimize the switching penalty. It may be a better MMX chip than the Intel. The question now is whether it matches the FP performance of an Intel chip. SCPerkins regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. -- \\\\\\\\\*///////// Steven C. Perkins sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu User Services Coordinator http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~sperkins/ Rutgers School of Law-Newark http://info.rutgers.edu/RUSLN/rulnindx.html Ackerson Law Library http://info.rutgers.edu/lawschool.html Newark, NJ 07102 VOX:201-648-5965 FAX:201-648-1356 *************************************************************************** #################################################################### From: Dan Scott Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help!---NeXTStation Color won't power up! Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:08:16 -0800 Organization: Optimal Solutions Lines: 32 Message-ID: <3307A170.1FC8@navix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: xyp162p5.ltec.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.3.156.44!news.gs.net!andromeda.vec.net!cambridge.emi.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!news.ltec.net!news-admin Hello, I would appreciate it if someone (anyone, please!) could give me some idea of what to do about the following problem: Some months ago my NeXTStation Color slab (bought in '92) began to give me problems. For example, sometimes when I pressed the power key it would begin to power up and then in the middle of booting the power would suddenly turn off. Sometimes it would shut itself off while I was using the computer (rather than during the boot process). When the power would shut off it seemed to behave very much like the machine does during a normal shutdown (after you click on power off with the mouse button) i.e. there was a slight clicking noise and the monitor went dark. Of course, the computer went through a tedious fseek when I booted it up later after such a non-standard shutdown. At first these problems occurred very rarely, but as time passed they happened more frequently. After 3 or 4 months the computer would fail to successfully boot most of the time (power failing during the process). I know there is a battery on the motherboard which I had heard might affect powering up, so I replaced it. This *did* seem to help for a week or so (but since failures seemed random it *could* have been coincidence). In time the condition degenerated completely so that now I don't even hear a "click" when I press the power button and my beloved NeXTStation Color just sits there like a black corpse :^( I have been making do with a Pentium running Windows (Hey, I'm a consultant and I have no choice!) but I would love to be able to make use of my NeXTStation Color again! Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? BTW: I am eager to buy a PowerPC for Rhapsody, but I'd prefer to wait until Rhapsody is ready. Thanks for any ideas... ---------------------------------------------- Dan Scott Send e-mail to ds63627@navix.net ---------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.mccc.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc-e!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news.supernet.net!nntp.cntfl.com!usenet From: regan Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 19:45:09 +0000 Organization: CMDS News machine Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> Reply-To: regan@bsc.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp17.bsc.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2607 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:133533 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86738 comp.sys.next.hardware:27285 The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend the money. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i530.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT CD ROM (external) Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:29:22 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i530.oro.net The NeXT brand CD ROM, black, I think was 2 x or... Thomas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with station bootup anomaly Date: 18 Feb 1997 02:23:37 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 14 Message-ID: <19970218022301.VAA22602@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!metro.atlanta.com!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!hobbes.cc.uga.edu!UGA.CC.UGA.EDU!DKNOX From: DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (David Knox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Upgrade from 030 to 040? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 12:51:05 EST Organization: University of Georgia Lines: 9 Message-ID: <17B18B4B9S86.DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: uga.cc.uga.edu Hello NeXT enthusiasts, I have been thinking of upgrading my 030 cube running NS 3.2 to an 040 board. Is there a significant increase in performance of the 040 over the 030. The 10-base T port would be nice so I could dispense with the mini-hub. My cube runs great now, could it run even better with an 040 board? Thank you for your comments. Check out my NeXT brochures site: http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT.htm l #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!hone!informer1.cis.McMaster.CA!roger.interlynx.net!usenet From: ajetha@visgen.com (Alykhan Jetha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3Com Etherlink on Toshiba TECRA Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:18:12 GMT Organization: Interlynx Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ea7d4$s8f@roger.interlynx.net> Reply-To: ajetha@visgen.com NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.visgen.com Keywords: network, laptop, nextstep Folks, Just wondering if anyone can help me. I just purchased a Toshiba TECRA laptop. I've got NS3.3 running just fine on it. The problem I'm having is the ethernet card. I've got a 3Com EtherlinkIII PCMCIA card (it's one of the recommended ones) which is detected by the system, but for some reason en0 does not get configured. If someone has this working, could you perharps let me know what drivers you've loaded and what version each one is. Any help at all would be appreciated!! Please email me directly at ajetha@visgen.com (news is sporatic here) Thanks Alykhan Jetha (AJ) Visible Genetics Inc., #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: thedrjay@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: 18 Feb 1997 03:02:11 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <19970218030200.WAA24762@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader I haven't tried the K5 out with NS, but I think that there is a very good chance that it will work. I have used the K5 for systems that run OS/2, Windows NT (both server and workstation), Windows 95, Novel 3.12 and Windows 3.1. I have never had any compatibility problems with AMD CPU's unlike Cyrix. Cyrix I think is more inclined to ship there CPU's out as soon as they seem to work and fix any bugs that show up latter. I have run into incompatibility problems more than a few times with Cyrix CPUs. They by the way list NS 3.2 and 3.3 as compatible with the 6X86. Most of the software testing they did is almost all Windows apps even though they list a lot of other compatible operating systems that don't run windows apps. Maybe if they can install and start an operating system they say it is compatible? I wouldn't buy a Cyrix CPU to run NS unless Next lists it as compatible. I haven't had a chance to try the K5 with NS yet, but the next NS computer (or one with compatible components) I put together will have one to see if it really works. It's too bad I don't get the chance often build a NS computer or I would have already tried a K5 with NS. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!colloquy.apple.com!nntp1.apple.com!mencjo.apple.com!user From: jm041536@fhda.edu (Joaquin Menchaca) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: GXE Pro 64 Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:50:36 GMT Organization: De Anza College Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mencjo.apple.com I am having trouble with NeXTSTEP 3.3. I can manage to get NeXTSTEP to work in VGA mode, but NeXTSTEP has problems with my video card GXEPro64 (4meg). Everytime it tries to use the card, the screen turns black. I do not have any problems with DOS, Win 3.1, Win95, WinNT, and OS/2. So what is up with NeXTSTEP 3.3? Does anyone know what I can do to get NeXTSTEP to work with my GXE64Pro card? thanks for any help, joaquin menchaca -- ############################################################### # My opinions are my own and not of any I work for. # ############################################################### # WARNING: DO NOT send unwarranted mail or SPAMS! Further # # proceedings of sending unwarranted email or spams will # # result in fines up to $1000 in damages. # ############################################################### #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702171519.KAA06355@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 99ccbd4d6ae8ec65a06ab2d4b7180205 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 10:19:43 -0500 Subject: Re: EDO RAM Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com, luomat@peak.org Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 99ccbd4d6ae8ec65a06ab2d4b7180205 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 16 Responding To: "Mitchell Allen" Original Date: 16 Feb 97 21:20:08 -0500 > Is there another way to check to make sure this RAM is working > correctly? You could use the 'hostinfo' program to see if it registers there as well (I expect that it will). TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrade from 030 to 040? Date: 17 Feb 1997 21:33:32 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5eairc$1en@news3.digex.net> References: <17B18B4B9S86.DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (David Knox) wrote: > Hello NeXT enthusiasts, I have been thinking of upgrading my 030 > cube running NS 3.2 to an 040 board. Is there a significant > increase in performance of the 040 over the 030. The 10-base T > port would be nice so I could dispense with the mini-hub. My cube > runs great now, could it run even better with an 040 board? Thank > you for your comments. The short answer is YES YES YES. Especially if you can find an 040 turbo board (i.e. 33mhz). Or better yet, the 50mhz Pyro board from Spherical Solutions. Anyway, more than just a 4times raw processing power boost, you'll enjoy the ability to upgrade your RAM beyond 16megs, to say 64 or 128mb's of ram. The Ram upgrade will do much to speed your opperations. However, I'm not sure if it makes sense from a price point... It might just make sense to bite the bullet and get an intel system that will easily outperform any NeXT machine... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!news From: Charles Wiles Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3Com Etherlink on Toshiba TECRA Date: 17 Feb 1997 21:12:56 GMT Organization: Physics Teaching Course, Oxford Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5eahko$9gs@news.ox.ac.uk> References: <5ea7d4$s8f@roger.interlynx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextstat1.physics.ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) ajetha@visgen.com (Alykhan Jetha) wrote: > Just wondering if anyone can help me. I just purchased a Toshiba TECRA > laptop. I've got NS3.3 running just fine on it. The problem I'm having is > the ethernet card. I've got a 3Com EtherlinkIII PCMCIA card (it's one of > the recommended ones) which is detected by the system, but for some reason > en0 does not get configured. If someone has this working, could you > perharps let me know what drivers you've loaded and what version each one > is. Funnily enough, we're having *exactly* the same problem. In our case we have the 3C589D model (note the "D": we asked for a 589C--which is what the NS driver officially supports--but our suppliers presumably sent us the latest one they had; we are just about to return it). I've also tried installing it under Linux (the latest Linux PCMCIA driver doesn't explicitly support the D revision either) and it can't configure the card either. I'd appreciate any good suggestions from anyone that knows about this problem (especially if you happen to be a NeXT [->Apple] engineer who can update the driver :->). Email preferred, as we also have a sporadic news feed. charles _______________________________________________________________________ Charles Wiles, NeXT/Unix Systems Manager, Physics Practical Course Dept of Physics NAPL, University of Oxford UK charles@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!news From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Power Supply Date: 18 Feb 1997 09:34:18 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ebt2q$o5j@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <5cti13$4dl@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> Reply-To: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de In article <5cti13$4dl@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) writes: > I have a monochrome turbo NeXTStation whose power supply just failed. If > anyone knows where I can obtain the appropriate replacement part, or knows > where there is information about obtaining a replacement, could they please > contact me by email: > > rlarson @semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu > > I know this topic has been raised before. Please forgive the use of bandwdth > in raising it again. > > -Richard Larson Hello, have a look at: http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.serv.net!news.omnigroup.com!news From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 18 Feb 1997 06:47:03 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Lines: 56 Message-ID: <5ebj97$p5a@gaea.titan.org> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bubastis.omnigroup.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25400 comp.sys.next.hardware:27296 In article <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com>, Don Yacktman wrote: > > I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) and EIDE > CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've been trying to get it > to play audio CDs, but it refuses to cooperate. I cannot get it to work with > CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has a > similar configuration and has been able to make this work. (I sent this to Don via email, but I thought it might be of more general interest, and actually, I'm hoping that someone who knows more about SCSI/ATAPI programming might be able to help me.) You might try removing OmniCD (or moving it to some place where the system won't try to autolaunch it), then pop in your audio cd. (You'll generally need to log out and log back in to get the system to stop trying to launch OmniCD.) If all goes well, CDPlayer will autolaunch and open the cd normally. (I've not experimented with this very much.) OmniCD has two (known) problems with ATAPI cdrom drives: The first is that OmniCD currently scans the SCSI bus looking for cdrom devices, and at the same time builds a map between physical SCSI ids and logical ids. I'm checking whether or not there's a device at a given ID by opening the generic SCSI device, setting the appropriate target id (I always use LUN 0 here, which is why OmniCD doesn't work on other LUNs), and then clearing unit attention (via a Request Sense). That Request Sense fails on ATAPI devices (not sure why - I thought that one would work), so I go back thinking there's no device on that ID. (If I ignore failure on the Request Sense, I go back thinking there's a device on _every_ ID.) I don't know much about SCSI/ATAPI programming, so if anyone tells me the correct way to do this, I'll fix it. Rakesh Dubey could probably help me here, but I've been unable to contact him. The second problem is that the commands for changing volume are different on EIDE devices, so even when I set it up so I can address an ATAPI device, I can't change the volume. I expect I could Again, any clues here would be appreciated. I imagine that the reason CDPlayer can work with ATAPI drives is that it doesn't scan the bus - it just tries to open whatever device the system tells it to when an audio cd is mounted. I haven't tested whether or not CDPlayer can change the audio volume for ATAPI cdrom drives, but I suspect it can or I would have probably heard otherwise. Note that even CDPlayer will require an ATAPI drive - not just any EIDE cdrom drive will work. -andrew -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!news From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXTSTATION POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE Date: 18 Feb 1997 10:08:35 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ebv33$sc0@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <5dsdu2$e4h@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Reply-To: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de In article <5dsdu2$e4h@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> jof@lune.univ-lr.fr (Bruno Joffredo) writes: > Hello, > > I am looking for NeXtStation POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE. If you have it or > you know where i can obtain it please email me : jof@univ-lr.fr > > Thank you. > > -- > > > Bruno Joffredo > bruno.joffredo@cri.univ-lr.fr (NeXt Mail, MIME) > > Centre de Ressources Informatiques Hello, have a look at: http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!news From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStation Power Supplies Date: 18 Feb 1997 10:08:39 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ebv37$sc7@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <5d4vbp$6fo@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> Reply-To: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de In article <5d4vbp$6fo@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) writes: > Does anyone know a company from which I can purchase a new power supply > for an old black NeXTStation turbo monochrome machine? > > I'm looking for a suitable replacement part and the part number. I had a > machine die on Friday. > > -Richard Larson > SUNY Stony Brook Hello, have a look at: http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!iway.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help!---NeXTStation Color won't power up! Date: 18 Feb 1997 01:29:02 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5eb0ku$6ku@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <3307A170.1FC8@navix.net> Reply-To: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber25.bordeaux.imaginet.fr In article <3307A170.1FC8@navix.net> Dan Scott writes: > Hello, [... (too long lines)...] > Dan Scott Send e-mail to ds63627@navix.net > ---------------------------------------------- Hi Dan, I seem to have about the same problem with my NeXTstation Turbo. However, not as much as your's. My solution is to unplug the CPU from the power and wait about 10 minutes. Then replug it and power on. If by chance it runs well, I don't dare power it off no more. Well, it's more black magic than anything else, but it worked for me until now. __Pascal Bourguignon__ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!sun4nl!Leiden.NL.net!Eindhoven.NL.net!usenet From: "Eric van Ballegoie" <**Jean.Ballegoie@net.HCC.nl**> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.supermicro,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.tyan,biz.comp.hardware,comp.benchmarks,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.next.hardware,fido.ger.hardware Subject: P-Pro USERS: LOOK HERE!!!!!!!! Date: 18 Feb 1997 08:08:53 GMT Organization: NLnet Lines: 17 Message-ID: <01bc1d71$adf732e0$e5f04fc1@pip.inter.nl.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rt99-4.rotterdam.nl.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2612 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus:42531 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.supermicro:5083 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.tyan:9769 comp.benchmarks:18661 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:133629 comp.sys.intel:109631 comp.sys.next.hardware:27300 fido.ger.hardware:27311 Ever since John Hinkley removed his page on FastVid, a utility which can improve graphics performance on P-Pro systems upto two times, I decided to dedicate a page to it. You can download FASTVID and files related to it from this site: http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/FastVid/ All files are shareware -- Eric van Ballegoie Rotterdam, The Netherlands EMAIL CHANGED TO PROVENT FROM UNWANTED MAIL. TO REPLY USE THE EMAIL ADRESS OBOVE, OR REMOVE THE ASTERISKS. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: clark001@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:56:01 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 20 Message-ID: <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: den-co25-06.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Feb 17 8:51:50 AM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.326 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2613 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:133636 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86791 comp.sys.next.hardware:27301 On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: > >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, I mean what has >he got to gain? He is probably referring to Intel's MMX 3.3v >overdrive chip which will be out soon enough. This will of course >allow Pentium boards to support MMX. Hope this helps Stephen make up >his mind, too. > >Roy. > But, considering the price of overdrive chips, it is far more economical to put a motherboard chip combination in your box than. To place an overdrive chip in the socket. Coupled with the fact if your a p-60 p-90 owner you would gain mode 4 eide, and edo capabilities. bill #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!iway.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: Patrice AFFLATET Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT 21 Inches plugs Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:25:13 +0100 Organization: SNRI Soft Lines: 55 Message-ID: <3309ADB9.7621@imaginet.fr> Reply-To: laric@imaginet.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber52.montpellier.imaginet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------34B7D405CA00" X-Sender: Patrice AFFLATET (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) X-Priority: Normal ------------34B7D405CA00 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a NeXTDimension 040 Cube with a NeXT 21" (Hitachi) Monitor and want to know if there is a way to connect this monitor to a PC Video Board (Cabling, specs, what about Sync signal....). I'd like to do the same thing with a NeXT MegaPixel 17" (Philips) Hope Apple will made some great hardware now... Thanks... -- --- Patrice AFFLATET laric@imaginet.fr SNRI Soft · Zone EURO 2000 SCO Unix Center · Sybase Var Av. de la Vistrenque MCP (NT) · Dephi · OpenStep 30132 CAISSARGUES · France fax : +33 466 29 73 45 ------------34B7D405CA00 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I have a NeXTDimension 040 Cube with a NeXT 21" (Hitachi) Monitor and want to know if there is a way to connect this monitor to a PC Video Board (Cabling, specs, what about Sync signal....). I'd like  to do  the same thing with a NeXT MegaPixel 17" (Philips)
 
Hope Apple will made some great hardware now...
 
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--- Patrice AFFLATET  laric@imaginet.fr
SNRI Soft · Zone EURO 2000 SCO Unix Center · Sybase Var
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------------34B7D405CA00-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable NeXT to HP 500C Date: 18 Feb 1997 13:18:11 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5eca6j$1vt5@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) cward@adnc.com wrote: >Is anyone using a Desk Jet 500C with Black Hardware? >If so is the mini Din 8 to DB 25 pinouts the same as in the ZS Man pages? ... no, because ... >I made null modem according to Man pages. >Printer just keeps loading and spitting out unprinted pages >Like it is stuck on form feed... You need a straight cable, not a Null modem cable. Get a copy of the NeXT FAQ, it contains details on wiring. I seem to remember that the easiest way of making one is buying a Mac Null modem cable, and cutting it in half, then re-wiring the DB25. The printer BTW works fine with a NeXT computer. You should also get a copy of dots. The demo version works right out of the box. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.agtac.net!crash.videotron.ab.ca!claire@mail.videotron.ab.ca From: stop@spam.com (see sig for my real address) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need help with Nextstep 3.2 install Date: 17 Feb 1997 06:48:17 GMT Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. (WAVE) Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5e8uvh$a9c1@crash.videotron.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: fhost219.v-wave.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 1.333 $] NF-S-00020 On 02/15/97, Robert Trout wrote: >I purchased a Turbo Color Nextstation with no hard drive. I installed a new >Hawk 2XL 1.0 GB (ST31055N) drive as SCSI device 1. I then attempted a >complete installation of Nextstep 3.2. However typing the Command ~ keys >after the “Testing System...” message does not enter the ROM monitor. >Instead the dialog box alternates between “Loading from disk...” and “ SCSI >error” messages. > >What am I doing wrong? Does the new disk have to be initialized in an >existing Next system before installation? That's certainly the easiest way, but if you don't have a working system already, you can do a fresh install from CD. You'll need the NS 3.2 distribution CD and the boot floppy that comes with it. On a black box you don't have any of the driver fiddles that make Intel installs tricky. Just pop the CD in an external CD drive, insert the floppy and away you go. Make sure that the hard disk is jumpered for a SCSI ID of 0 or 1, and the CD drive is set to ID 2 or larger. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de!news From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP/OpenStep on Notebook Date: 18 Feb 1997 13:51:47 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5ecc5j$k80@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) I am thinking about buying a notebook in the next few months and maybe some kind soul can provide me with some experiences. - I have looked at the new Sharp PC-9090 notebook and it appears very impressiv. The display is 1024x768 16k color 12.1' and the price tag is lower than a similar system from Toshiba. I was told it uses some graphics chips from Cirrus Logic, however not the type. Does anyone have experiences with this system? Is there a driver for NeXTSTEP/OpenStep for the graphics card? - Also the Toshiba Tecra 730 seems ok, feature wise. However the price tag is a bit high... Again, is anyone using this system? - Or buy an Apple 3400 notebook and hope Rhapsody runs on it. Guess noone knows for sure yet. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!newshub.ccs.yorku.ca!news From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recommendations for tape backup drive Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:34:33 GMT Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5ea8bp$4pn@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: hotspur.psych.yorku.ca I'm looking for information, recommendations, etc. on purchasing a DAT tape backup unit for a NeXTstation color running NS 3.0. A local vendor suggests a WangTek 3200 (refurbished) 2-4GB unit with 3 mo. warrantee for $900 CAN as the 'best buy'. Is this reasonable? Any things to look out for in purchase? thx, -Michael -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail OK) Psychology Dept York University Voice: 416 736-5118 Fax: 416 736-5814 4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!sun4nl!Leiden.NL.net!Eindhoven.NL.net!usenet From: "Eric van Ballegoie" <**Jean.Ballegoie@net.HCC.nl**> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.supermicro,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.tyan,biz.comp.hardware,comp.benchmarks,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.next.hardware,fido.ger.hardware Subject: FASTVID IS ON THIS PAGE: Date: 18 Feb 1997 08:08:54 GMT Organization: NLnet Lines: 18 Message-ID: <01bc1d71$b2310c00$e5f04fc1@pip.inter.nl.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rt99-4.rotterdam.nl.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2614 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus:42578 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.supermicro:5088 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.tyan:9776 comp.benchmarks:18668 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:133712 comp.sys.intel:109671 comp.sys.next.hardware:27307 fido.ger.hardware:27316 Ever since John Hinkley removed his page on FastVid, a utility which can improve graphics performance on P-Pro systems upto two times, I decided to dedicate a page to it. You can download FASTVID and files related to it from this site: http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/FastVid/ All files are shareware -- Eric van Ballegoie Rotterdam, The Netherlands EMAIL CHANGED TO PROVENT FROM UNWANTED MAIL. TO REPLY USE THE EMAIL ADRESS OBOVE, OR REMOVE THE ASTERISKS. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Message-ID: <1997Feb17.172230.1367@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: bchin@us.net Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:22:30 GMT Lines: 13 In <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> Bill Chin wrote: > > The AMD K5 *is* faster than a Pentium at the *same* clock > speed. However, the AMD K5 133 is actually a 100Mhz chip. The German computer magazine c't has compared a K5-166 with a Pentium-166 and found the AMD 5% faster in average. I also remember similar figures with the AMD K5-133 in another test. (I'm not talking about clock speeds here !) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!usenet From: ATL2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Laser Printer on PC: Can it be done? Date: 18 Feb 1997 17:01:11 GMT Organization: Lehigh University Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ecn8n$eqp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: guava.phil.lehigh.edu X-Newsreader: Hi all, OK, I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but I'm duty bound to query before dropping $$$ on a new postscript printer: Is there any way (bus card? adaptor?) my old NeXT printer can be used on an Intel PC running NEXTSTEP? Infinite gratitude to anyone who (truthfully) answers "yes." Alex Levine ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Message-ID: <33092C2F.465@ebs.ac.com> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:12:31 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer Reply-To: eulmer@isd.net Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen Consulting and BBN Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Ethernet Question, BNC/TP selection from ifconfig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.141.37.202 Lines: 13 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news-out.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!usamrid.isd.net!208.141.37.202 How would I "encourage" the NeXT to select a particular media type when both are connected? More specifically, what's the darned ifconfig flag? Also, if you're looking for a NeXT related web page you can examine the one I've created at: http://www.isd.net/eulmer -- Eric Ulmer Networking Consultant, ServiceNet, LLC. eulmer@isd.net ulmerer@ebs.ac.com http://www.isd.net/eulmer http://www.ac.com/topstories/currnews/ts_dfr96-0618.html that slow machine). The 040 cubes and stations (all 25 MHz, no turbos) work ok, even though some of them are over 7 years old by now. Try saying that about any PC (the 486 machines we bought 3 or 4 years ago seem way too slow for Nextstep today ...). -- -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =- Piers Uso Walter ilink GmbH piers@ilink.de -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:18:44 GMT References: <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 27 In article <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Gian-Paolo D Musumeci wrote: >spdwell@adnc.com writes: >> Has anyone tried to speed up a NeXT? Has anyone tried a clock doubler? >> Anything? > >There are basically two ways to speed up a NeXT[1]. > o If you have a non-Turbo (25MHz vs. 33MHz) machine, and if you can > find one (I'm not sure if they're still being sold), Sam Goldberger > (http://www.orb.com) used to sell a 'Pyro' 50MHz accelerator card. No, they aren't sold anymore. They didn't work on a lot of machines and, I gather, were generally a pain. Were nice when they worked, though. > o If you have a Turbo (33MHz) machine, and if you can find one, and > if you're willing to pay around two thousand dollars, there are the > legendary Nitro CPU cards. These are 40MHz+cache 68040 boards that > only fit into the Turbo-series systems. > I hear these are very nice! -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!ali.bc.ca!nobody From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: file ownership Message-ID: Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Reply-To: allan@cetus.ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Cc: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:20:14 GMT References: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Lines: 35 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25408 comp.sys.next.hardware:27313 comp.sys.next.software:28128 In comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: > I'm having a problem with file ownership. > My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. > However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing > ownership to my account . > ... > So my questions are: Why does it keep changing ownership? > How can I make the ownership sticky (remain root)? > What caused this problem, so I can prevent it in the future. Typically this is caused by not having an entry for the disk in your /etc/fstab file. If Workspace notices a SCSI disk which isn't specifically mentioned in your fstab, it assumes that it is a temporary disk which you want mounted in the same manner as a floppy. The disk is mounted using the permissions of the current user logged in. If this is the cause of your problem, you can simply add a line like the following to /etc/fstab, so that the disk will be a permanent part of your machine's set of file systems: /dev/sd1a /LocalApps 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 assuming you want the disk mounted as /LocalApps. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Integrated Wellness Systems" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 18 Feb 1997 13:57:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 34 Message-ID: <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> References: <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bal-md1-26.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Feb 18 7:57:28 AM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 How about adding memory and a faster hard drive? If you don't have the max amount of ram, you'll enjoy a big boost. This is the cheapest way to get max performance. John Byrne New to NeXT World and proud of it! Gian-Paolo D Musumeci wrote in article <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>... > spdwell@adnc.com writes: > > Has anyone tried to speed up a NeXT? Has anyone tried a clock doubler? > > Anything? > > There are basically two ways to speed up a NeXT[1]. > o If you have a non-Turbo (25MHz vs. 33MHz) machine, and if you can > find one (I'm not sure if they're still being sold), Sam Goldberger > (http://www.orb.com) used to sell a 'Pyro' 50MHz accelerator card. > o If you have a Turbo (33MHz) machine, and if you can find one, and > if you're willing to pay around two thousand dollars, there are the > legendary Nitro CPU cards. These are 40MHz+cache 68040 boards that > only fit into the Turbo-series systems. > > These are pretty much the only options. I haven't tried putting a Newer > Technologies' chip replacement board into a system yet, but I have a feeling > that it simply will not work. Perhaps Sam Goldberger could post some > technical morsels here for those of us who are more interested? > > gdm > > [1] 68040-based machines only. I know of no way to accelerate an '030 > system, other than upgrading to an '040 board. > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!138.220.4.24!news.worldbank.org!news.worldbank.org!usenet From: Stefano Pagiola Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrade from 030 to 040? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:09:37 -0500 Organization: World Bank Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3308D721.3BD3@worldbank.org> References: <17B18B4B9S86.DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> <5eairc$1en@news3.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: envgcte1.worldbank.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) John Kheit wrote: > > Hello NeXT enthusiasts, I have been thinking of upgrading my 030 > > cube running NS 3.2 to an 040 board. Is there a significant > > increase in performance of the 040 over the 030. > > The short answer is YES YES YES. Especially if you can find an > 040 turbo board (i.e. 33mhz). > > However, I'm not sure if it makes sense from a price point... It > might just make sense to bite the bullet and get an intel system > that will easily outperform any NeXT machine... Or wait a little and get a PowerPC running Rhapsody. -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:43:45 GMT References: <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb>, Integrated Wellness Systems wrote: >How about adding memory and a faster hard drive? If you don't have the max >amount of ram, you'll enjoy a big boost. This is the cheapest way to get >max performance. > True. However, depending on what you're doing there is a point where adding more RAM doesn't help. Unless I'm doing heavy OmniWebbing I'm pretty happy with 32MB on my cube (36MB on my Dimension board). However, my life would likely be better if I got off my butt and installed a faster disk. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!wizard.pn.com!news.gte.com!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!p15.ts12.metro.ma.tiac.com!user From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP/OpenStep on Notebook Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:20:14 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <5ecc5j$k80@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: p15.ts12.metro.ma.tiac.com X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 In article <5ecc5j$k80@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > I am thinking about buying a notebook in the next few months and maybe some > kind soul can provide me with some experiences. > > - I have looked at the new Sharp PC-9090 notebook and it appears very > impressiv. The display is 1024x768 16k color 12.1' and the price tag is lower > than a similar system from Toshiba. I was told it uses some graphics chips > from Cirrus Logic, however not the type. Does anyone have experiences with > this system? Is there a driver for NeXTSTEP/OpenStep for the graphics card? > > - Also the Toshiba Tecra 730 seems ok, feature wise. However the price tag is > a bit high... Again, is anyone using this system? > > - Or buy an Apple 3400 notebook and hope Rhapsody runs on it. Guess noone > knows for sure yet. Rhapsody will run on it - at least, the real Rhapsody release. The developer release, which will just be an OPENSTEP port plus a few minor changes maybe, may not run. No idea. However, the 3400 is twice as fast as the other notebooks you mentioned, so there's an advantage there. -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!sonybc!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: egg123 Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:18:27 -0500 Organization: Prodigy IAC Test Lines: 16 Message-ID: <330A46D3.5904@prodigy.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: port24.albn.prodigy.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2624 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:133838 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86871 comp.sys.next.hardware:27318 regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > the money. Yes, but don't you think that the software developer's making new MMX software, are also aware of this, and would program differently because of it. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!news.protocom.com!usenet From: "Mike Prendergast" Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.n Subject: WTB: Seagate ST32550WC H/D 100+ Date: 19 Feb 1997 03:11:37 GMT Organization: Mike Prendergast Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bc1e12$ceccbca0$798048cc@mike.protocom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.72.128.121 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.apollo:8783 comp.sys.dec:35354 comp.sys.dec.micro:4308 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24801 comp.sys.hp.misc:11698 comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc:20769 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86884 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:100150 comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc:1191 comp.sys.misc:5225 comp.sys.next.hardware:27319 WANT TO BUY NOW. We are the BUYER, we need 600 units and are ready to cut a Purchase Order now. Contact: Michael Prendergast Fuller Workstations 612-653-6789 612-653-6871 (Fax) mprender@catpc.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!132.175.109.6!news.sandia.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB Mouse discovery Date: 19 Feb 1997 01:37:59 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5edlhn$ep1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) I discovered that a Macintosh Apple Desktop Bus Mouse II (single button) will work just fine with a Color Turbo NeXTstation, with one proviso: the button needs to be kept pressed during reboot in order for the mouse to get registered by the system. After that, it works great. I find it smoother and more ergonomic for the hand than the NeXT ADB "Darth Vader" mouse. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news.mr.net!news.protocom.com!usenet From: "Mike Prendergast" Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.marketplace,fr.comp.sys.next,misc.forsale.computers.storage,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.wanted,okinawa.sys.sun Subject: WTB: Seagate ST32550WC H/D 100+ Date: 19 Feb 1997 02:59:38 GMT Organization: Mike Prendergast Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bc1e11$225b0900$798048cc@mike.protocom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.72.128.121 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.misc:5226 comp.sys.next.hardware:27321 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16455 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27502 comp.sys.sgi.marketplace:2750 fr.comp.sys.next:992 misc.forsale.computers.storage:55428 misc.forsale.computers.workstation:42630 WANT TO BUY NOW. We are the BUYER, we need 600 units and are ready to cut a Purchase Order now. Contact: Michael Prendergast Fuller Workstations 612-653-6789 612-653-6871 (Fax) mprender@catpc.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!171.69.2.138!usenet.cisco.com!usenet From: derek@slab.cisco.com (Derek Taubert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Ethernet Question, BNC/TP selection from ifconfig Date: 19 Feb 1997 06:48:56 GMT Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5ee7oo$io4@cronkite.cisco.com> References: <33092C2F.465@ebs.ac.com> Reply-To: taubert@geeks.org NNTP-Posting-Host: slab.cisco.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: ulmerer@ebs.ac.com In <33092C2F.465@ebs.ac.com> Eric Ulmer wrote: > How would I "encourage" the NeXT to select a particular media type > when both are connected? More specifically, what's the darned ifconfig > flag? I'm afraid you can only use one media type at a time. There isn't a way to "select" one or the other. -- _ ___ | \ _ ._ _ | | _. |_ _ ._ _|_ taubert@geeks.org |_/(/_| (/_|< |(_||_||_)(/_| |_ NeXTMail welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdcc12.ucsd.edu!ieng9.ucsd.edu!llay From: enigma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 23:19:41 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ieng9.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> On 16 Feb 1997, Bill Chin wrote: > calls it a 133 chip). I have heard that the AMD's floating > point speed is not as fast as the 133Mhz Pentium, but that's > not substantiated. Actually, it is a decumented fact, that AMD's and all the other clone chips are inferior in their floating-point performance compared to Pentium. :-) But, since most people run Windoze and non-floating point intensive applications on their computer, most people wouldn't notice much difference. However, I don't know to what extent do NeXTSTEP/OpenStep use the floating point operations--so... Lucas. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702190651.BAA10353@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 01:51:12 -0500 Subject: Modem Configuration Question - SupraFaxModem Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 39 Sorry for what's probably a blatantly off-topic post, but I'm stuck and in need of help . My manual for my SupraFaxModem has the following entries under "AT COMMANDS" %L Report received signal level (while online only) (value in -dBm) %Q Report line signal quality (0-128) (while online only) (0 indicates better quality) #CIDn Caller ID commands (0=Disables Caller ID, 1 = enables formatted Caller ID, 2=not formatted) I have no idea how to issue the first two, since they say they are "while online only" -- how do I issue AT commands while online without screwing up my existing connection? With the caller ID: I have not been able to use that either using 'kermit' or in my PPP chat script -- I don't know how to 'format' it (which it implies it needs: "formatted Caller ID") and I don't know how to utilize it. I have tried all 3 using 'chat' and 'kermit' and they just report ERROR and that's it. Any help appreciated Thanks TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i501.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT Bible (and other NeXT Books) Date: 19 Feb 1997 18:01:58 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i501.oro.net What do you have. I heard the NeXT Bible was a book on the NeXT platform. What else do you have for sale. Thomas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i501.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT on Campus magazines Date: 19 Feb 1997 18:02:38 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i501.oro.net Let me know what you have. Thomas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news From: ralf@prolink.de (Ralf Niederhuefner) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:38:01 GMT Organization: PROLINK GbRmbH Lines: 14 Message-ID: <330b38ca.23348206@news.prolink.de> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> <330A46D3.5904@prodigy.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.prolink.de X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Cache-Post-Path: Sol.prolink.de!unknown@jupiter.prolink.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2631 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:134044 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86938 comp.sys.next.hardware:27327 egg123 wrote: >> one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be >> used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > >Yes, but don't you think that the software developer's making new MMX >software, are also aware of this, and would program differently because >of it. funny idea. so if the programmers have to optimize the software for MMX, what do we need this chip for ??? Optimized machine-code WITHOUT MMX is much faster than working around this MMX/FPU problem. But who cares, it's Intel who told us to buy it ! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 19 Feb 1997 22:58:32 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: file ownership Date: 18 Feb 1997 17:48:03 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25437 comp.sys.next.hardware:27329 comp.sys.next.software:28165 I'm having a problem with file ownership. My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing ownership to my account . Example: /dev/sd1a is mounted as /LocalApps and contains all of my Local Applications (logically). This disk and its contents should be owned by the system - root. However when I do: ls -la / |grep LocalApps I get drwxrwxrwt 50 dave 2048 Feb 17 15:45 LocalApps/ Similarly if I do: ls -la /LocalApps |grep SoftPC I get drwxr-xr-x 18 dave 1024 Jan 19 1996 SoftPC.app/ Now what is confusing me is that these files were initially installed by root and if I change ownership of them by doing: chown -R root /LocalApps chown -R root /LocalApps/SoftPC.app and chown root /LocalApps/* chown root /LocalApps/*/* etc.... eventually the damn files return to my ownership. So my questions are: Why does it keep changing ownership? How can I make the ownership sticky (remain root)? What caused this problem, so I can prevent it in the future. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Booting NS3.3 CD in single user mode Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:02:32 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5eges8$q63@hpax.cup.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com I found out that you can't mount /tmp from a floppy when booting from NS3.3's CD in single-user mode. NS3.2 works fine. i.e. bsd(x,0,0)sdmach -s rootdev=sdx (x=drive of CD) . . . * mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp * works on NS3.2, but on 3.3, I get an error about private/tmp is read-only. Doing a mount -o remount on the root directory fails as well. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!167.142.225.6!newsrelay.netins.net!composer.inav.net!usenet From: lebmjb@juno.com (lebmjb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:45:43 GMT Organization: LEBMJB Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dip120.inav.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27331 comp.sys.next.misc:25123 If this has been asked before (and I'm sure it has), I appoligize. I am new to these NeXT newgroups. How can we network a NeXT computer to a Dell Pentium computer? I need to know the actual physical hook-up, ie; network cards, cables, etc. Thanks -- Larry #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!news From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: novice's question ... multiple displays on a slab Date: 19 Feb 1997 02:07:05 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 I have heard rumours and specualtions, but is it possible to have a multiheaded NeXT slab? if so, what are the conditions and where to buy the parts? Regards Nick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!news1.bellglobal.com!sympatico.ca!not-for-mail From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 200 Mhz Dell Pentium and NS 3.3 not booting correctly Date: 20 Feb 1997 06:09:30 GMT Organization: Sympatico Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egpqq$28i$1@news1.sympatico.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp997.on.sympatico.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27333 comp.sys.next.software:28167 We are having some difficulty getting NS 3.3 to boot properly on a 200 Mhz Dell Pentium with a builtin S3 TrioV+ video chip. Installation was perfect, but if you let the machine do a normal boot, the OS cannot find the video chip. However, if you boot with a "-v" at the boot prompt all is well ( I think ). It seems that 3.3 times out before all the hardware is registered in the OS. BTW, 4.1 is perfect. If anyone has any suggesttions or help please respond by email to the address below. Thanks in advance -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation 1 Eva Road, Suite 301 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Voice: (416) 621-6166 Fax: (416) 621-6212 Email: mark@cyantic.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!171.69.2.138!usenet.cisco.com!usenet From: Rakesh Dubey Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 00:18:13 -0800 Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. Lines: 78 Message-ID: <330C08C5.1A45@cisco.com> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> <5ebj97$p5a@gaea.titan.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: bhim.cisco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) CC: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > > In article <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com>, Don Yacktman wrote: > > > > I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) and EIDE > > CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've been trying to get > it > > to play audio CDs, but it refuses to cooperate. I cannot get it to work > with > > CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has > a > > similar configuration and has been able to make this work. > > (I sent this to Don via email, but I thought it might be of more > general interest, and actually, I'm hoping that someone who knows more > about SCSI/ATAPI programming might be able to help me.) > > You might try removing OmniCD (or moving it to some place where the > system won't try to autolaunch it), then pop in your audio cd. (You'll > generally need to log out and log back in to get the system to stop > trying to launch OmniCD.) If all goes well, CDPlayer will autolaunch > and open the cd normally. (I've not experimented with this very much.) > > OmniCD has two (known) problems with ATAPI cdrom drives: > > The first is that OmniCD currently scans the SCSI bus looking for cdrom > devices, and at the same time builds a map between physical SCSI ids > and logical ids. I'm checking whether or not there's a device at a > given ID by opening the generic SCSI device, setting the appropriate > target id (I always use LUN 0 here, which is why OmniCD doesn't work on > other LUNs), and then clearing unit attention (via a Request Sense). > That Request Sense fails on ATAPI devices (not sure why - I thought > that one would work), so I go back thinking there's no device on that > ID. (If I ignore failure on the Request Sense, I go back thinking > there's a device on _every_ ID.) I don't know much about SCSI/ATAPI > programming, so if anyone tells me the correct way to do this, I'll fix > it. Rakesh Dubey could probably help me here, but I've been unable to > contact him. > Mode sense/request do not work for the NeXT ATAPI driver. This is a bug that needed to get fixed when I quit NeXT. Why don't you try Test Unit Ready instead? ATAPI support for playing audio CDs is rather weak since this is one area where the SCSI command set and the ATAPI command set differ. The ATAPI commands are richer but one needs to change the application to support that. The CDPlayer.app is pretty primitive in the way it deals with CDs. > The second problem is that the commands for changing volume are > different on EIDE devices, so even when I set it up so I can address an > ATAPI device, I can't change the volume. I expect I could Again, any > clues here would be appreciated. > > I imagine that the reason CDPlayer can work with ATAPI drives is that > it doesn't scan the bus - it just tries to open whatever device the > system tells it to when an audio cd is mounted. I haven't tested > whether or not CDPlayer can change the audio volume for ATAPI cdrom > drives, but I suspect it can or I would have probably heard otherwise. > > Note that even CDPlayer will require an ATAPI drive - not just any EIDE > cdrom drive will work. > EIDE is marketing nuisance. Any CD-ROM that you can connect to an IDE controller is ATAPI. > -andrew > > -- > andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok -Rakesh #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!not-for-mail From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: LaserPrinter disassemble,how? Date: 20 Feb 1997 09:37:57 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5eh61l$f9f@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950515BETA PL0] Hello, I have to repair the power supply of my next laserprinter. Is there something like a guide to disassemble it (i.e. how to remove/replace the power supply)? thanx winfried -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ========================================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!newshub.tc.umn.edu!newsstand.tc.umn.edu!usenet From: dejo0018@itlabs.umn.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:24:04 -0600 Organization: University of Minnesota Lines: 10 Message-ID: <330B4544.63FD@itlabs.umn.edu> References: <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pub-18-b-155.dialup.umn.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (WinNT; I) I would have to agree with James. I bought a Seagate drive from Bason last summer. They went so far as too tell me that I probably wouldn't want that model because it was a 5 1/4" full height drive. But, I have a full tower case with room to spare. The drive was shipped promptly and packed very securely. Installation was relatively simple and it's been problem free ever since. Brad DeJong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!sonybc!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!lantana.singnet.com.sg!peony.singnet.com.sg!ntuix.ntu.ac.sg!willem From: willem@mht3.gintic.gov.sg (Willem van Schaik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable NeXT to HP 500C Date: 20 Feb 1997 15:45:07 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5ehri3$e17@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 155.69.28.109 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] cward@adnc.com wrote: : Is anyone using a Desk Jet 500C with Black Hardware? : If so is the mini Din 8 to DB 25 pinouts the same as in the ZS Man pages? Ooops, that's long time ago. But I had it working easily. As far as I remember it was just as zs man-pages are saying. An (out of my head) indead a null modem cable. Did you set the switches the right way? OK, if nobody else is able to send you an answer on this, send me an e-mail at willem@gintic.gov.sg and I will try to dig up whatever I can find. I still have printer and cable, although I now normally will use my NeXT laserprinter. Willem #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!sci.kun.nl!not-for-mail From: pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 20 Feb 1997 17:05:54 +0100 Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5ehsp2$tr@pion.sci.kun.nl> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> <330A46D3.5904@prodigy.net> <330b38ca.23348206@news.prolink.de> Reply-To: "NO JUNK MAIL!" NNTP-Posting-Host: pion.sci.kun.nl X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #7 (NOV) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2638 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:134243 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:86996 comp.sys.next.hardware:27338 ralf@prolink.de (Ralf Niederhuefner) writes: >egg123 wrote: > >>> one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be >>> used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your >> >>Yes, but don't you think that the software developer's making new MMX >>software, are also aware of this, and would program differently because >>of it. > >funny idea. so if the programmers have to optimize the software for >MMX, what do we need this chip for ??? For the 15-20% speed boost it gives regardless of MMX? >Optimized machine-code WITHOUT MMX is much faster than working >around this MMX/FPU problem. Aw, cm'on, did YOU ever code something in x86 assembly? Doesn't sound like it. Well, I did (not a great lot, but hey, it's not something you'd do out of your own free will). The sharing of registers between FPU and MMX operations isn't much of a problem to start with. You will not want to mix both types of instructions usually, and in the rare cases where you would want to, you can now at least choose which of the two is fastest and stick with that. Before, it was FPU or nothing. Oh, sure, you'll have to save FPU registers in task/thread switches. Big deal. You needed to do that anyway. - Peter -- pieterh@sci.kun.nl http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.radio.cz!CESspool!newsgate.cistron.nl!IRIS.global-one.nl!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!news From: jake@hep.physics.mcgill.ca (Jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: No color , NS 3.3, ATI card Date: 20 Feb 1997 16:22:55 GMT Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5ehtov$k88@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.physics.mcgill.ca X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hello everyone, I hope that someone out there can help us with this problem: We have recently tried installing Nextstep version 3.3 on your average vanilla pentium with an EIDE disk. After many problems getting a network card WITH a driver and setting up a Network installation server we got it to work. Almost. We cannot, try as we might, get the screen to show color under NS. We have loaded a DOS diskette and run the various setup utilities, (modes, centering, blah, blah) and color works just fine. However, despite repeated attempts at driver/mode selection under NS it persists grayscale. If someone out there has had similar difficulties, we would certainly appreciate a leg up, as neither of us are PC hardware experts, as may be blatantly obvious (let's hear it for the black hardware!!). Some details, which may or may not be relevant are: Card: PCI ATI-264VT Controller revision 0 Base I/O 6100h Relocatable: Enabled Video BIOS version 3.008 Shared Memory boundary Monitor: ViewSonic 15GS (one of those plug+play things) Thanks in advance to everyone. Jake -- Why you wanna be reading them long-haired books for boy? -Foghorn Leghorn #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!easynet-uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!easynet-cherry!usenet From: "JOACHIM MOSAKU" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC VERSA 6030X laptop driver needed Date: 20 Feb 1997 02:39:38 GMT Organization: FBT CONSULTANCY Message-ID: <01bc1ed7$4efdf780$e6f983c1@jo> NNTP-Posting-Host: jo.easynet.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 X-easynet-cherry: 8564063782386.nnrp Lines: 9 Driver for NEC VERSA 6030X laptop needed for OpenStep 4.1. It uses a Chips & Technologies 65550 chipset and 2MB VRAM and 16bit colour at 1024x768. Has anyone resolved issues associated with swapping between CD ROM and floppy drive in the Versa bay. Many thanks, Jo Mosaku, jo@easynet.co.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] IBM 2GB HDD and NEXTSTEP Install Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 03:59:27 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 86 Message-ID: <330C9F01.4698@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.224.65 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, Has any one installed NEXTSTEP IBM 2GB HDD(Model: DORS-32160)? I saw the README file for large partition disks at NeXTansware 1533. And I did as following. localhost:5# sdform /dev/rsd1a device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 2063 MBytes ***FORMATTING THIS DISK CAUSES ALL DISK DATA TO BE LOST*** This will take approximately 68 minutes. Do you wish to proceed? (Y/anything) Y Disk Format in progress... ***Format Complete*** localhost:6# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: IBM DORS-32160 512 bytes per sector 125 sectors per track 5 tracks per cylinder 6703 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 0 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 4226724 usable sectors on volume "I copyed following text to /etc/disktab." DORS-32160|IBM DORS-32160|IBM DORS-32160 S82C:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6703:nt#5:ns#125:ss#512:rm#5400:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=brow:\ :pa#0:sa#4194144:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:\ :oa=time:ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ localhost:7# disk -t DORS-32160 -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: DORS-32160 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi The device is mounted as a filesystem and can't be initialized. localhost:8# Thanks for any pointers or advice. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-7.sprintlink.net!bingnews.binghamton.edu!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 17 Feb 1997 13:26:26 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5e9ma2$4lr@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25445 comp.sys.next.hardware:27342 don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) wrote: > > I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) > and EIDE CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've > been trying to get it to play audio CDs, but it refuses to > cooperate. I cannot get it to work with CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app > and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has a similar > configuration and has been able to make this work. All the CD-playing applications for NeXTSTEP that I know about are using SCSI commands to run the CD. If the cd-rom is not on the scsi chain, then the applications are not going to be able to drive it. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.be.com!news1.crl.com!nexp.crl.com!crl.crl.com!not-for-mail From: eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 20 Feb 1997 10:51:17 -0800 Organization: CRL Network Services (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl.com In article <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, Cmoore wrote: >I am interested in the DSP and want to find out whats been done in the >past with it? any hardware add ons or software projects that >anyone knows of, or DSP source code, i would be interested in hearing >about it. There are two hardware add-ons that I am aware of, a 32k memory module from NeXT and a384k from SanFrancsicoSU. The DSP is very useful in music/sound applications, but I think that the color nexts might use it for video(don't quote me on that). It can be used to do real-time sound synthesis using the MusicKit from Stanford's CCRMA or programs such as WaveEdit or CCRMA's physical modelling software. There is also Ensemble, which is a MIDI sequencer that can use the DSP as the Midi controlled synthesizer. Oh yeah, also there is TTYDSP, which uses the DSP as a serial port controller. That's what I know of. -HC -- Josh Waltzer and Hans-Christoph Steiner MIME, NeXTMail, SunMail and PlainOldMail accepted #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems(?) with external SCSI Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:36:04 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5eig44$hca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: ashrafi@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: stsfac.mit.edu I have been using an internal Sony SCSI CDROM on my Intel machine with NS3.3 for some time without any problems. I put it into an external SCSI case so that I could connect it to my TurboColor NeXTstation. This works fine with the NeXT or Lighthouse CD, but when I put a music CD in, I get sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label) sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label) sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) DISK UNFORMATTED Disk is Write Protected probing for DOS probing for CDROM probing for mac probing for cdaudio Feb 20 16:06:13 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio in the console, after which there is no problem. I've checked and rechecked temination and SCSI ID as well as I could given the the case's inadequate docs. So what's wrong? Since it actually works, should I care? I just don't want to damage the on-board SCSI controller or risk data on the HD. Thanks for any info or advice, Babak #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] IBM 2GB HDD and NEXTSTEP Install-2 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 06:02:32 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 18 Message-ID: <330CBBE6.26C0@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <330C9F01.4698@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.224.75 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) In this time, I used BuildDisk.app to build NEXTSTEP 3.3. The BuildDisk.app understand IBM 2GB HDD's actual size (2063MB) at build disk pannel and started build. When finished build, I logged-out and logged-in, and I found a "NewDisk" icon in the File Viewer. But It has only total 1GB size. Where is rest of 2GB? 1GB is gone. How could I format my IBM 2GB HDD to build NEXTSTEP 3.3? Please let me know. Thanks, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!hunter.premier.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!news From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:10:19 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5eiejr$gqq@news.xmission.com> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> <5e9ma2$4lr@usenet.rpi.edu> Reply-To: don@globalobjects.com NNTP-Posting-Host: brain.misckit.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25447 comp.sys.next.hardware:27346 Garance A Drosehn wrote: > don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) wrote: > > > > I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) > > and EIDE CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've > > been trying to get it to play audio CDs, but it refuses to > > cooperate. I cannot get it to work with CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app > > and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has a similar > > configuration and has been able to make this work. > > All the CD-playing applications for NeXTSTEP that I know about are > using SCSI commands to run the CD. If the cd-rom is not on the > scsi chain, then the applications are not going to be able to drive > it. The APAPI drive makes the drive masquerade as a SCSI device, so it does work. I've managed to get CDPlayer.app to work, sort of, by removing OmniCD from the system (it does not yet work, though I think Andrew knows how to get it to at least work as well as CDPlayer.app now, so perhaps a new version will be forthcoming). I can play audio via the headphone jack, but not through the sound card, since the volume control in CDPlayer.app doesn't work at all and leaves the volume at zero. Accoring to an engineer at NeXT I spoke with, this is a known bug in the ATAPI driver. Just thought you'd want to know about the above... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com My home page #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: novice's question ... multiple displays on a slab Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:55:09 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 In article , Bebe Nicolae Bondoc wrote: > >I have heard rumours and specualtions, >but is it possible to have a multiheaded NeXT slab? >if so, what are the conditions and where to buy the parts? > No, you can't have a multiheaded slab. You can have a multiheaded cube if you plug in one or more NeXTdimension boards. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu!not-for-mail From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: file ownership Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:12:33 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egff1$btg@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25448 comp.sys.next.hardware:27348 comp.sys.next.software:28179 dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: : I'm having a problem with file ownership. : My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. : However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing ownership to my account . : This is because the file system on the second and third drives are mounted at the time you logged in. The WorkspaceManager sets the owner to the user logged in at the time. To solve your problem, you need to set the file systems to be mounted at the time of booting up. This can be done by adding entries in the file /etc/fstab like /dev/sd2a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota noauto 0 1 (this is my fstab entry, my /Users directory is on a seprate disk) where the /dev/sdXa and /"MountPoint" should be changed to match your configuration. Look at "fstab" man page for more helps. !!Caution!! A mistake can cause the machine to be unbootable! Edit /etc/fstab file carefully! Enjoy! -- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.iquest.net!not-for-mail From: John Haver Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cirrus Logic 5436/NS3.3/Intel Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:13:28 -0500 Organization: Alverno Administrative Services, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <330CE8A8.66A6@alverno.ssfhs.org> Reply-To: jhaver@alverno.ssfhs.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ontfire1.ssfhs.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) I'm trying to get a Compaq DeskPro 2000 to run Nextstep 3.3 for Intel and use the Integrated Cirrus Logic 5436 chipset that comes with the box. I've downloaded the GD5434 drivers version 3.31 from next and they don't work (lock up the screen with garbage patterns). The drivers for 4.0 say they'll work with the 5436 but unsupported -- but I can't upgrade to 4.0 yet because the application (purchased) doesn't support it yet. Are there any third party vendors who have such a driver or would I be better off just buying a Matrox MGA Millenium PCI card and using Next's V3.30 driver (Nextanswer 1975)? I mentioned the Matrox card because it's an option from Compaq. Thanks in advance for any advice. John Haver #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Laser Printer on PC: Can it be done? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:40:24 GMT References: <5ecn8n$eqp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 20 In article <5ecn8n$eqp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>, wrote: >Hi all, > >OK, I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but I'm duty bound to query >before dropping $$$ on a new postscript printer: > >Is there any way (bus card? adaptor?) my old NeXT printer can be used on an >Intel PC running NEXTSTEP? > No. It can't be done unless you're prepared to reverse-engineer the high-speed serial protocol between the printer and the NeXT machine, design and build hardware to produce it, write software to drive it, and then interface it with a PostScript interpreter on the PC. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!diogenes From: trail@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: Fri, 21 Feb 97 01:15:53 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> References: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: gra-mi6-02.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Feb 20 5:09:53 PM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 In article , Charles William Swiger wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 20-Feb-97 HELP: Network >NeXT to a De.. by lebmjb@juno.com >> How can we network a NeXT computer to a Dell Pentium computer? I need to >> know the actual physical hook-up, ie; network cards, cables, etc. > > >Thin ethernet is cheaper, but somewhat less reliable for large >installations; 10-base-T requires a star topology which is more reliable >but also means you'll need to get hubs which cost some bucks-- ~$120 or >so for a decent 8-port hub. > As long as you stay with just two machines, you can leave out the hub and use a crossover cable between the ethernet cards. Jeff trail@ix.netcom.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <330d1e84.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 21 Feb 97 04:03:16 GMT Lines: 26 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, Cmoore wrote: > >I am new to the NeXT, i have a color station. > >I am interested in the DSP and want to find out whats been done in the >past with it? any hardware add ons or software projects that >anyone knows of, or DSP source code, i would be interested in hearing >about it. > >thanks. > There is the articulatory speech synthesis system created by Trillium Sound Research Inc -- a company with which I am associated. 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Simmons SIMMONS HUMAN RESOURCE #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!procom.it!mirko Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702202035.VAA00233@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Mirko Viviani Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 21:35:15 +0100 Subject: HD problem... Reply-To: Mirko Viviani Lines: 101 Ciao... I'm trying to do some experiment with a quantum hd on NS3.3pl1... The problem is that I'm not able to initialize a NS partition from a shell root account, but if I press the 'Initialize' gadget of the Workspace when a user login all work correctly ! This is the Workspace console output: /usr/etc/disk -i -h next -l "NeXT-prg" -d 1465869312 /dev/rsd1a NEXTSTEP partition base = 32 NEXTSTEP partition size = 1431520 disk name: QUANTUM LIGHTNING 730S disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1431200 128 4 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 352 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 1431200 sectors in 2796 cylinders of 4 tracks, 128 sectors 732.8Mb in 175 cyl groups (16 c/g, 4.19Mb/g, 960 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 32, 8352, 16672, 24992, 32800, 41120, 49440, 57760, 65568, 73888, 82208, 90528, 98336, 106656, 114976, 123296, 131104, 139424, 147744, 156064, 163872, 172192, 180512, 188832, 196640, 204960, 213280, 221600, 229408, 237728, 246048, 254368, 262176, 270496, 278816, 287136, 294944, 303264, 311584, 319904, 327712, 336032, 344352, 352672, 360480, 368800, 377120, 385440, 393248, 401568, 409888, 418208, 426016, 434336, 442656, 450976, 458784, 467104, 475424, 483744, 491552, 499872, 508192, 516512, 524320, 532640, 540960, 549280, 557088, 565408, 573728, 582048, 589856, 598176, 606496, 614816, 622624, 630944, 639264, 647584, 655392, 663712, 672032, 680352, 688160, 696480, 704800, 713120, 720928, 729248, 737568, 745888, 753696, 762016, 770336, 778656, 786464, 794784, 803104, 811424, 819232, 827552, 835872, 844192, 852000, 860320, 868640, 876960, 884768, 893088, 901408, 909728, 917536, 925856, 934176, 942496, 950304, 958624, 966944, 975264, 983072, 991392, 999712, 1008032, 1015840, 1024160, 1032480, 1040800, 1048608, 1056928, 1065248, 1073568, 1081376, 1089696, 1098016, 1106336, 1114144, 1122464, 1130784, 1139104, 1146912, 1155232, 1163552, 1171872, 1179680, 1188000, 1196320, 1204640, 1212448, 1220768, 1229088, 1237408, 1245216, 1253536, 1261856, 1270176, 1277984, 1286304, 1294624, 1302944, 1310752, 1319072, 1327392, 1335712, 1343520, 1351840, 1360160, 1368480, 1376288, 1384608, 1392928, 1401248, 1409056, 1417376, 1425696, initialization complete If I do the same thing in a root shell it exits when newfs starts mkfs, don't know why, but I don't specify the -d ... option in /usr/etc/disk arguments. The -d flag for 'disk' is not specified in the man page, what do it does ? The curious thing if that the cylinder, tracks and sectors printed by mkfs are not the same as the mode_sense command of fdisk, see the fdisk output: Partition Table ---------------- Act H S Cyl Id H S Cyl Begin Size --- - - --- -- - - --- ----- ---- 80 1 1 0 a7 3f 20 2ba 20 15d7e0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Disk Information ----------------- Disk statistics according to device driver and bios: device: 699 Megabytes, 1431760 sectors bios: 699 Megabytes, 1431552 sectors cylinders = 699, heads = 64, sectors/track = 32 Is there anyone that could explain me this problem ? Thanks ! --- Bye, Mirko (NeXTmail, MIME) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT user has questions (printer, upgrades, etc) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:46:19 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 32 Message-ID: <330D60B7.6C53@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.224.68 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: Emmett McLean >1. What kind of hardware and software > do I need to connect two cubes? You need only BNC type network cable to connect two cube. And use some network setup software in your /NextAdmin folder. Next, check out /NextLibrary/Documentation/ folder. >4. What kind of memory do I use to > upgrade my RAM? If you have a 030 or 040 cube(non-turbo), you should get 30 pin ram (70~100ms). >8. Does an academic bundle include both > developer and user? Yes, Please visit following web site: http://www.optimal-object.com/ >12. Is it possible to put 3.3 or OpenStep on a > machine with an 030 chip? Yes, NEXTSTEP 3.3 work on 030 cube, but very slow. Probably, OPENSTEP will work too. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aa.net!ratty.wolfe.net!usenet From: "Jeff Chapman" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 19 Feb 1997 20:19:25 GMT Organization: Wolfe Internet Access Lines: 14 Message-ID: <01bc1ea2$5c345500$50bd6bcc@chapio.wolfe.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chapio.wolfe.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2642 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:134428 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87072 comp.sys.next.hardware:27356 clark001@ix.netcom.com wrote in article <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com>... > On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: > > > > > >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, No, let's always assume that the salesman has our best interest at heart... that's their real motivation, isn't it? That's why they'll always give an answer (any answer) to our probing questions... right? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.67.253.7!atmnet.net!newsfeed.slip.net!owl.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New NeXT user has questions (printer, upgrades, etc) Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:38:13 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 54 Message-ID: <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net I have a number of questions I'm hoping to get some answers on.... 1. What kind of hardware and software do I need to connect two cubes? 2. I want to upgrade my RAM and hard drive. Should I install a new OS, then upgrade the hardware, or visa versa? 3. I purchased a swap drive. Would it fit in a slot normally kept available for a second hard drive? 4. What kind of memory do I use to upgrade my RAM? 7. Is it possible to do a destructive install so that after upgrading an OS the machine behaves like it is new? 8. Does an academic bundle include both developer and user? 9. Can one use TTYDSP with Openstep 4.1? What kind of modem can be used with TTYDSP so one can use a regular phone line? (Is this possible?) 10. Can you recommend a modem (to run on the serial port? Will I have to purchase a special NeXT cable? Is there a cable/ modem which I can use to put my computer on the Web without having to have an ISDN line? 11. Ah, I have the NS 3.3 User CD. I think I can purchase NS 3.3 Developer for about 400$. This includes a license, but it is very unlikely I'll ever want to develop and sell some software. My goal is to put my own machine on the Web. My roommate is a full time student. Am I better off getting 3.3, or OpenStep? 12. Is it possible to put 3.3 or OpenStep on a machine with an 030 chip? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Laser Printers? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:52:48 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 33 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) If I remember from the 80s, the NeXT laser printer is less expensive than other laser printers because it doesn't have to crunch any postscript internally--the OS does that for it. IF that is the case, is it possible to print to a NeXT printer from a Mac? I would like to be able to connect a NeXT laser printer to my cube (which has no printing at all right now), and allow my wife's mac (connected 10Base-T to the hub & cube--no other machines on our mini-net, no NetInfo but could set it up if necessary) to print to it (in fact, she will do more printing than I will). Is this possible? If third party solutions are necessary, what are they? Secondly, what is the availability of toner and other expendibles for the NeXT printers? Does it use a "standard" toner cartridge or it is a proprietary NeXT one? Any sense of the costs to maintain a NeXT printer? Many thanks. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ Center for Educational Tech. herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!pasteur.fr!jussieu.fr!fdn.fr!r2d2.fdn.org!free.fdn.fr!news From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Message-ID: Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> <5e3hg2$opd@news2.cais.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:21:47 GMT Lines: 26 Robert La Ferla wrote: > I am currently running two SCSI controllers in my Pentium Pro system. > One is the Adaptec 2940UW and the other is the Adaptec 2940N. > > -- > Robert La Ferla > Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant > HTI > Boston, MA - Washington, DC > + 1 (617) 252-0088 > I got a ATX ASUS PPRO with one ASUS 2940 UW/Audio combo and one NCR 53C810. I use the 53C810 for the slow devices (ie CDROM). I can read data CDROM but cant read audio? The app does not find the CDROM device. Does somebody have a solution for the audio problem ? -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installation NextStep 3.1 from EDI CD-ROM Date: 20 Feb 1997 00:45:40 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5eg6rk$jh5@news.next.com> References: <5eft72$3aj$1@neptune.worldonline.nl> Reply-To: joe_keenan@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: barley.next.com In article <5eft72$3aj$1@neptune.worldonline.nl> egiessen@worldonline.nl (Bobo) writes: > I'am trying to install NextStep 3.1 on my Cyrix powered PC. However my > CD-ROM player is EDI, not SCSI. The installationprogram assumes SCSI. > > Does anyone know if it's possible to install it from EDI CD-ROM or am I > supposed to by SCSI? NS 3.1 doesn't support EIDE CD-ROMs. And NextStep in general doesn't run on Cyrix processors. No matter what they tell you, it's not 100% compatable. joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 21 Feb 1997 15:53:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <19970221155300.KAA11995@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com v74 ROMS here too anyone know any more info? TIA, Joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:44:55 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <8n3Q=ru00iVCI22fMI@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: po8.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 21-Feb-97 Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a.. by Jeff Trestrail@ix.netcom >> Thin ethernet is cheaper, but somewhat less reliable for large >> installations; 10-base-T requires a star topology which is more reliable >> but also means you'll need to get hubs which cost some bucks-- ~$120 or >> so for a decent 8-port hub. > > As long as you stay with just two machines, you can leave out the hub > and use a crossover cable between the ethernet cards. Yes, _but_. :-) While that works, it is not recommended. Besides, if all you want to do is hook up two computers, it's easier to use thinnet.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.unisource.nl!news.unisource.nl!news.worldonline.nl!giessen From: egiessen@worldonline.nl (Bobo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installation NextStep 3.1 from EDI CD-ROM Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 22:02:31 GMT Organization: World Online Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5eft72$3aj$1@neptune.worldonline.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: asd4-p22.worldonline.nl X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 I'am trying to install NextStep 3.1 on my Cyrix powered PC. However my CD-ROM player is EDI, not SCSI. The installationprogram assumes SCSI. Does anyone know if it's possible to install it from EDI CD-ROM or am I supposed to by SCSI? Eimert egiessen@worldonline.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting NS3.3 CD in single user mode Date: 21 Feb 1997 18:28:27 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5ekpgb$rm0@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <32d5d64eb55e7f73595edecac14d4b51> <-> <199702202246.RAA05640@peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article <199702202246.RAA05640@peak.org>, Timothy J Luoma wrote: >mount -t 4.3 -o remount,rw,noquota,noauto /dev/sd0a / The kernel panics. Oh well. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ycc.yale.edu!yale!mango!fischer From: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStation Power Supplies Date: 21 Feb 1997 21:54:06 GMT Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-8285 Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5el5hu$6t3@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <5d4vbp$6fo@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> Reply-To: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) NNTP-Posting-Host: mango.theory.cs.yale.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2az (for az) PL2.1] Richard K. Larson (rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know a company from which I can purchase a new power supply : for an old black NeXTStation turbo monochrome machine? : I'm looking for a suitable replacement part and the part number. I had a : machine die on Friday. : -Richard Larson : SUNY Stony Brook Check out http://www.deepspacetech.com/Nexthardware.html . They list NeXT power supplies for $59. You'll have to look on their home page at http://www.deepspacetech.com/ to get their phone and FAX numbers. I had a very good experience dealing with them last week and can recommend the company to you. I FAXed an order in on Sunday. It arrived the next Wednesday, carefully packed and in perfect condition. Couldn't have been easier! ================================================== | Michael Fischer | | Professor of Computer Science | ================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: animat@erols.com (Michele Chubirka) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:29:14 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 26 Message-ID: <330ddb30.4702212@news.erols.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <01bc1ea2$5c345500$50bd6bcc@chapio.wolfe.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-as75s25.erols.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2646 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:134521 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87111 comp.sys.next.hardware:27366 Okay, Will someone explain, (for a layman) what an MMX chip is? I've started to hear about it, but know nothing about it and I'm NOT a programmer. Michele On 19 Feb 1997 20:19:25 GMT, "Jeff Chapman" wrote: > > >clark001@ix.netcom.com wrote in article ><33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com>... >> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: >> >> >> > >> >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, > >No, let's always assume that the salesman has our best interest at heart... >that's their real motivation, isn't it? That's why they'll always give an >answer (any answer) to our probing questions... right? > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!news.grolier.fr!usenet From: Eric Levenez Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 21 Feb 1997 22:32:51 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-206-101.neuilly.club-internet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) wrote: >There are two hardware add-ons that I am aware of, a 32k memory module >from NeXT and a384k from SanFrancsicoSU. The DSP is very useful in >music/sound applications, but I think that the color nexts might use it >for video(don't quote me on that). It can be used to do real-time sound >synthesis using the MusicKit from Stanford's CCRMA or programs such as >WaveEdit or CCRMA's physical modelling software. There is also Ensemble, >which is a MIDI sequencer that can use the DSP as the Midi controlled >synthesizer. Oh yeah, also there is TTYDSP, which uses the DSP as a >serial port controller. That's what I know of. There is also a ISDN adapter from Hayes. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 -------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:00:45 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com>, JoeGidi wrote: >The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: > >sc: scintr program error > >the machine then starts up as normal. My station does this, too. v74 of the ROM. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not. It tends to be the cause for its inability to boot off CD-ROM without manual intervention in my case. If anyone out there (Mike?) knows, please share. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!usenet From: "Ken Gleason & Ann Ferguson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Question about swapping root drive on NextStation Date: 21 Feb 1997 02:45:25 GMT Organization: Gleason Consulting Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bc1fa1$36e738d0$01c0e1ce@bear> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts01-00.dialup.ais.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27369 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25462 I've got to swap a root hard disk for a larger one in a nextstation. Currently, my plan is to copy the entire root partition to another machine's NFS volume, swap the disks, reinstall Nextstep, and then copy the files back, and reboot. The machine is the authoritative source for NetInfo for the domain. Any forseen problems in doing it this way, or any suggestions? thanks, in advance, Ken Gleason ken@mpimedia.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 21 Feb 1997 22:27:19 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 33 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5el7g7$79n$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: klui@cup.hp.com In <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> Ken Lui wrote: > In article <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com>, > JoeGidi wrote: > >The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: > > > >sc: scintr program error > > > >the machine then starts up as normal. > > My station does this, too. v74 of the ROM. Sometimes it's there, > sometimes it's not. It tends to be the cause for its inability > to boot off CD-ROM without manual intervention in my case. If > anyone out there (Mike?) knows, please share. > Hey folks.. I don't think I've ever seen that error. (scintr program error) I've seen other sc: errors but not that. I would wonder what HD's you have in your systems, and what the termination situation is.. E-mail me with the info.. Also do you get the error on a warm reset or just on cold boots (might be your HD is still spinning up, or readying itself).. Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!news.grolier.fr!usenet From: Eric Levenez Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems(?) with external SCSI Date: 21 Feb 1997 22:35:26 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5el7ve$s3h@news.grolier.fr> References: <5eig44$hca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-206-101.neuilly.club-internet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) wrote: >I have been using an internal Sony SCSI CDROM on my Intel machine with >NS3.3 for some time without any problems. I put it into an external SCSI >case so that I could connect it to my TurboColor NeXTstation. This works >fine with the NeXT or Lighthouse CD, but when I put a music CD in, I get No problem. I have quite the same warnings with my Pionneer x10 CD-ROM. And it works. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 -------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:53:58 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: po6.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25151 comp.sys.next.hardware:27372 Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 20-Feb-97 HELP: Network NeXT to a De.. by lebmjb@juno.com > How can we network a NeXT computer to a Dell Pentium computer? I need to > know the actual physical hook-up, ie; network cards, cables, etc. First, you've got a choice between 10-Base-2 and 10-Base-T ethernet. The first is composed of shielded RG-58/U cable (also known "thin" ethernet) which looks much like VCR cabling, and involves T-shaped BNC connectors and needs 50-ohm terminators at the ends of the cabling; the other uses what's essentially high-grade unshielded phone wiring in a star topology (category 5 or better, IIRC) and a RJ-45 connector that resembles an oversized phone jack. The NeXT machine has both connectors, so you can choose either one. For the PC, you'll need to get a network card; Intel's EtherExpress line is inexpensive and offers good performance and I've heard very few complaints. Again, you'll probably end up with a card which offers both a BNC and a RJ-45 connector. Thin ethernet is cheaper, but somewhat less reliable for large installations; 10-base-T requires a star topology which is more reliable but also means you'll need to get hubs which cost some bucks-- ~$120 or so for a decent 8-port hub. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!informatik.uni-muenchen.de!newsmaster From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:34:54 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5eijie$8eb@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial080.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) wrote: >The AMD K5 *is* faster than a Pentium at the *same* clock >speed. However, the AMD K5 133 is actually a 100Mhz chip. With >the P-speed benchmarks, AMD claims the AMD 100Mhz K5 is the same >speed as a 133Mhz Pentium for integer operations (and thus >calls it a 133 chip). I have heard that the AMD's floating >point speed is not as fast as the 133Mhz Pentium, but that's >not substantiated. Is the K5-133 (clocked at 100MHz, right?) Pin compatible with an Intel Pentium 100? Then this would be a nice processor upgrade for me :) Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Where to get disktab entry for NEC 3x CDROM? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 5 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 23:45:56 GMT Does anyone have, or know where I could obtain, a disktab entry for an NEC 3x CD-ROM drive for black? Thanks! -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.213.252.15!news.cyberenet.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!bingnews.binghamton.edu!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT CD ROM (external) Date: 17 Feb 1997 22:33:24 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5eambk$c6r@usenet.rpi.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > The NeXT brand CD ROM, black, I think was 2 x or... It was single speed. Not much remarkable about it, other than it's black. Unless you specifically want a NeXT cd-rom for the novelty value, you might be better off looking for an Apple CD300 or CD600 drive. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!easynet-uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!easynet-uko!news.ukonline.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Stuart Dickson" Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,microsoft.public.hardware Subject: Spinning down util? Date: 21 Feb 1997 23:02:31 GMT Organization: [posted via] UK Online Ltd Lines: 2 Message-ID: <01bc204b$d9551880$8a7106c2@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: lon6-10.ukonline.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27376 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44905 Has anyone got a spinning down util for Win 95 will trade anything!!! cool.dude@ukonline.co.uk #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.172.62.14!world!indra.com!bear From: bear@indra.com (Bear Giles) Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Reply-To: bear@indra.com Sender: usenet@indra.com (System Administrator) Organization: Acme University, W. E. Coyote president Message-ID: References: <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: net.indra.com Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 02:27:09 GMT Lines: 42 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:25067 comp.os.linux.hardware:71147 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:27580 comp.sys.acorn.hardware:27676 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:125125 comp.sys.hp.hardware:24916 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:100484 comp.sys.next.hardware:27377 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:27593 comp.sys.sun.hardware:44908 In article <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net>, Glenn Visser <*Bards@shore.net> wrote: >In article , bear@indra.com says... > >>> And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive >>> starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has >>> expired. > >***** The drives were brand new, never been opened! ***** >***** Still in the DEC OEM box. ***** > >But the warranty was expired with Seagate. So this is what Bason and many >others are probably doing. You are getting a new drive at a great price. And >it IS new so they can say that, but it's end of life product. You need to know >what you are buying and don't assume that what someone is selling is the >current model. We may be talking at cross-purposes here. The original poster referred to a "used" or "refurbished" disk drive. I wouldn't touch one of those with the proverbial 10-foot pole due to the classic bathtub mortality curve for disk drives. I can extend that curve for my own drives (e.g., by using a power conditioner and keeping the disks spun up to reduce the heavy load on the drive during spinup), but I have no idea how a used disk was treated. In contrast, I wouldn't mind an unused, old disk provided the seller was willing to back it for a few weeks to a month, just long enough for me to be sure that I was safely past the infant mortality period. There's only a low risk of failure in the first few weeks (esp. if the drives were "burned in" during manufacturing), and an negligible chance that they would fail between 1 month and 2-3 years. _That's_ why I said the situation sounded like fraud. Informed consumers would have a profoundly different response based on whether the drives were presented as "used or refurbished" vs. "unused, stock closeout." -- Bear Giles To treat your facts with imagination is one thing, bear'at'indra'dot'com but to imagine your facts is another. -- John Burroughs #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news1.best.com!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 22 Feb 1997 01:39:42 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5eliou$5f3@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> <5el7g7$79n$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article <5el7g7$79n$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, wrote: > I would wonder what HD's you >have in your systems, and what the termination situation is.. Quantum: LP105S as well as a PD210S. I've received the sc... errors with either drive (they're not both connected). Both have terminators when they're in the 'station, but they're not that common. I get the sc errors when I try to boot off CD-ROM almost all the time. >E-mail me with the info.. Also do you get the error on a warm reset or >just on cold boots (might be your HD is still spinning up, or readying >itself).. Warm and cold. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!fiji.easyway.net!news From: fuckyou@yourass.xxx Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: laptop4sale! - laptop4sale.doc (1/1) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:15:36 GMT Organization: Easyway Communication Inc. Lines: 117 Message-ID: <330d74c5.3822635@news.easyway.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyc01-sl12.easyway.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 begin 644 laptop4sale.doc MT,\1X*&Q&N$`````````````````````/@`#`/[_"0`&```````````````! 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Date: Fri Feb 21 15:14:41 1997 Original subject was: Learn to Make $$$FAST CASH$$$ With Honest Work #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702202248.RAA05660@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: cd5ccd30aa484cfab45743d570437556 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:48:03 -0500 Subject: Re: LaserPrinter disassemble,how? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: cd5ccd30aa484cfab45743d570437556 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 20 Responding To: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Original Date: 20 Feb 1997 09:37:57 GMT Message-ID: cd5ccd30aa484cfab45743d570437556 - > I have to repair the power supply of my next laserprinter. Is there > something like a guide to disassemble it (i.e. how to > remove/replace the power supply)? It isn't specific for the power supply, but you can find instructions for taking the printer apart at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702202246.RAA05640@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 32d5d64eb55e7f73595edecac14d4b51 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:46:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Booting NS3.3 CD in single user mode Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 32d5d64eb55e7f73595edecac14d4b51 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html Lines: 26 Responding To: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Original Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:02:32 GMT Message-ID: 32d5d64eb55e7f73595edecac14d4b51 - > * mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp > > * works on NS3.2, but on 3.3, I get an error about private/tmp > is read-only. Doing a mount -o remount on the root directory > fails as well. Haven't tried this, but try mount -t 4.3 -o remount,rw,noquota,noauto /dev/sd0a / mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp or mount -n /dev/rfd0a /tmp let me know if it works... TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news-lond.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!IRIS.global-one.nl!elmer.box.nl!user From: "Jan van Die" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Desktop Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:31:06 +0200 Organization: Uitgeverij Divo Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: nntp.box.nl X-Newsreader: Mac Athena Hello NeXT-lovers! Would anyone be so kind to help me quickly? I am writing a story about Steve Jobs and his return to Apple. I need a screendump of the NeXT-desktop (windows & icons) to illustrate the way the Apple-finder could change. Please email a dump to janvdie@box.nl Ofcourse I will send you a copy of the magazine with the story in return. Thanks in advance! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news From: Nick Poolos Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tahiti 2 MO Drive. Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 11:01:43 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 12 Message-ID: <330F1867.6D02488C@osu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: s-98-185.resnet.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i486) Has any one gotten one of these to work on black hardware? I obtianed one surplus without any docs... Maxoptix only has the tahiti 3 and newer drives up on the support page. When probing the bus I get a "selection error" followed by the typical dump which points to the Tahiti drive. Any help would be appreciated. -- Nick Poolos poolos.1@osu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.u.washington.edu!aonline!news.michiana.org!news.nd.edu!news From: sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu (Uri Sarid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex pro - Onboard networkcard Date: 21 Feb 1997 20:46:09 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5el1ih$860@news.nd.edu> References: <5dcdmf$fr9@baldwin.rat.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: particle.phys.nd.edu In-Reply-To: <5dcdmf$fr9@baldwin.rat.se> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.230 $] NF-U-00057 On 02/06/97, Lars Pehrsson wrote: >Has anyone succedded in installing nextstep on this machine and got the >onboard networkcard going ?? >Onboard networkcard is suppose to be 3-Com compatible. > > >Thanks in advance > >Research & Trade AB >Lars Pehrsson >lars@rat.se > I just got a DELL OptiPlex GXpro 200 MHz, with that new 3COM network chip installed on-board. I got a couple of opinions on the NeXTstep compatibility from NeXT technicians: the first said it should work with the appropriate driver and pointed me towards a new version of that driver, the second said there was no appropriate drivers for this very new version of the 3COM chip. I tried the first guy's advice, and I could not make it work. So I figured the second guy was right, and I went and bought a $59 3COM card of the older variety (3Com EtherLink III 3C509-B ISA), ran the config utility in DOS (but ignored the IRQ and port address settings which that utility displayed on the screen, and instead used the defaults chosen when I later used Configure.app) and that's worked ever since. Hope that helps. Uri (sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu) -- Uri Sarid Department of Physics office: (219) 631-6823 University of Notre Dame fax: (219) 631-5332 Notre Dame, IN 46556 (if fax fails, try -5952) e-mail: sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!rao From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will NCR 875 SCSI work? Date: 22 Feb 1997 21:51:17 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5enpol$rkl@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: sysmod.egr.uh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Will the Asus SC-875 NCR 875 Chipset UltraFast/UltraWide PIC SCSI card work with Openstep 4.x? Nextanswers says that the supported chips are 810, 815, 820 and 825. Thanks. Jagannatha -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!newsrelay.netins.net!composer.inav.net!usenet From: lebmjb@juno.com (lebmjb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup? Date: 22 Feb 1997 17:36:50 GMT Organization: LEBMJB Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5enari$tu0@composer.inav.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dip69.inav.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup and how do I get to it? Thanks -- Larry #################################################################### From: brisinda@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Message-ID: Date: 22 Feb 1997 17:41:59 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster PnP Config Problems Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.4 Lines: 23 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!newshost!brisinda I can't seem to get OPENSTEP to recognize my SoundBlaster 16 PnP. I've installed the lastest drivers for SoundBlaster, EISABus etc. as they are supposed to have better PnP support -- but to no avail. Here is the message I get during startup: Feb 21 16:11:53 pegasus mach: PnP: could not find card for driver 'SoundBlaster16' location '' instance 0 Feb 21 16:11:53 pegasus mach: configureDriver: could not allocate resources for class SoundBlaster16 Has anyone gotten this card to work with OPENSTEP? If so, could you email you /usr/Devices/SoundBlaster16.config/Instance0.table file and/or any other info then might be helpful? Thanks, Dale -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!not-for-mail From: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) Subject: 3Com Etherlink III PCI X-Nntp-Posting-Host: woodlawn-nfs.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:38:52 GMT Lines: 8 Does anyone know if there is still any hope of a 3.3 driver for this card appearing sometime in the future? thanks, Arno Bosse University of Chicago #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!not-for-mail From: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) Subject: NumberNine Imagine 128 - 2 beta driver X-Nntp-Posting-Host: woodlawn-nfs.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:43:24 GMT Lines: 13 I have this driver running on a Dell PPro machine at 1280x1024 16bit, 75Hz - but I'm a little disappointed at the speed. 32bit basically was too slow to be of any use and even 16bit is not very snappy. By speed I mean the subjective impression of refresh "lag" one gets when moving windows. Does anyone know of anything I could do in terms of tweaking the settings to improve this? thanks, Arno Bosse Univ. of Chicago #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: LaserPrinter disassemble,how? Date: 22 Feb 1997 22:35:49 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 17 Message-ID: <19970222223500.RAA15489@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com If you go into the bowls of your NeXT printer and replace you fuse (the removable one), be aware that this will only be a temporary fix. There were 2 kinds of NeXT printer power supplies. Early one that were easily kill by a line voltage spike of 300 to 400 volt or sometime the fuse would blow or both. The later power supplies that that could withstand 5000 volts with no problem. If you do replace the fuse, you should find a good surge protector for your printer otherwise you'll end up replacing the fuse again. Hope this helps. JQ :-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!news5.crl.com!nexp.crl.com!crl10.crl.com!not-for-mail From: eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 22 Feb 1997 10:08:31 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5encmv$ajd@crl10.crl.com> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl10.crl.com In article <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr>, Eric Levenez wrote: >eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) wrote: >>There are two hardware add-ons that I am aware of, a 32k memory module > >There is also a ISDN adapter from Hayes. > Oh yeah, I forgot about th emouch raved about voicemail/telephony package from ilink called mix. As far as I can tell it is a programmable voice mail system running on the DSP. -- Josh Waltzer and Hans-Christoph Steiner MIME, NeXTMail, SunMail and PlainOldMail accepted #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!utk.edu!clarion.korrnet.org!jwebb From: jimmy _ webb Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Plotter for sale/trade Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 18:01:37 -0500 Organization: University of Tennessee Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: clarion.korrnet.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a plotter (Hewlett Packard 7550A) for sale/trade. Sale: 300 dollars Trade: VGA monitor w/ card Color or Laser Printer 100-560 mb hd. 9600 modem plus 50 dollars 14.4 modem or better jwebb@korrnet.org #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unihil!baghira.han.de!euler!js From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: LaserPrinter disassemble,how? Message-ID: Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <5eh61l$f9f@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:35:25 GMT Lines: 80 Bergmann Winfried writes > Hello, > I have to repair the power supply of my next laserprinter. Is there something > like a guide to disassemble it (i.e. how to remove/replace the power supply)? Hope this helps: Subject: FYI: Fuses in Printer Date: 18 Oct 1993 19:01:16 GMT Message-ID: <29up5s$263@balu.hnv.icem.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Hello, I would like to share what I found out about fuses in your beloved NeXT-Laser-Printer. There have been numerous rumors about no fuses etc, even by NeXT-support-people. For those of you who feel up to rescuing your printer yourself or don't have the money for official support this info is intended as encouragement. As usual, this info comes with absolutely no warranty, use on your own risk, don't blame me, don't flame me etc. Also I do not know if this info is true for all NeXT-Laser-Printers. Good news first : There's at least two fuses in your printer. Bad news : it's a long way to get there (one's even soldered in its fittings). Fuse number one ( the easy one) : This fuse is supposed to be highly suspicious in case of interface-problems, since it seems to secure the power-supply for the NeXT-stuff. Remove toner-cartridge, turn printerupside-down, remove bottom of casing ( lots of screws all way round the sheet), find the small electronics which holds NeXT's interface (it is the same part which holds the connector for the NeXT-Printer-cable to fit in), remove this part out of its connector - the fuse is on its topside. Fuse number two : Remove toner-cartridge again, remove two black fittings on inside of black top cover-hood (make sure the cartridge holder does not crash into the depths of your printer; laser inside!), remove one screw in the middle of same inside of black top cover, remove black top cover, remove all the screws holding the black casing, running all around the printer (this may require to remove further parts, depending on your skills and your equipment. There's two screws behind the backside-cover, where the paper is supposed to come out. also, there's at least two screws into the bottom from the inside. If you cannot get at these screws for the cover is in the way, remove the black sheet at the backside of your printer, over the paper-outlet. It's fixed by two screws and inhibits further opening of the cover - forces stop at about 45 degrees.) Lift the cover straight up. It may not go all the way, then you have to use some finesse; try pressing the black casing a bit in all directions - but don't brake it. Remove the black sheet on left of fan - one screw, remove two screws fixing fan in its position - don't let it drop, there's a cable on its back. Find a fuse behind the fan (I found it was soldered into its fittings, good luck to you). Unidentified object : Yes, I found one, though not flying by any means. In the far left corner (consider NeXT-logo side to be front) there is something within the power-supply with "10A" printed beside. It has two cables attached to it. May be a bi-metal thermo switch to prevent overheating - I plain do not know. And the million dollar question? No, all fuses were intact, the printer is not running again. -- Good luck, Juergen --- AnsweringMachine +49 511 92455-50 Fon -51 Fax -52 NeXTMail welcome = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unihil!baghira.han.de!euler!js From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Where to get disktab entry for NEC 3x CDROM? Message-ID: Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:42:19 GMT Lines: 21 fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu writes > Does anyone have, or know where I could obtain, > a disktab entry for an NEC 3x CD-ROM drive for black? What would you need one for? Do you intend to format a cd in the drive? AFAIK disktabs are needed only to provide information for the partitioning/formatting process - which most cd-rom drives should not perform too easily. My nec 3xi cd-rom drive performs just fine without a disktab - but will fail to initialize any and all cds, I am afraid. Juergen --- AnsweringMachine +49 511 92455-50 Fon -51 Fax -52 NeXTMail welcome = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.smart.net!not-for-mail From: pwshomo@us.net Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 18:09:07 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Lines: 20 Message-ID: <330E2B13.3940@us.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: iris.smart.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2656 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:134805 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87216 comp.sys.next.hardware:27395 MMX swapping can also cause errors in FP calculations. Not that Intel would have any experience with those type of errors... ;> regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > the money. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How does one terminate the internal end of a Cube SCSI bus? Date: 23 Feb 1997 02:25:52 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5eo9rg$ftq@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: scz-ca7-04.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Feb 22 8:25:52 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) The old original Maxtor 330 Winchester has failed in my Cube. I'd like to remove the drive, but not replace it. How does one terminate the internal end of the SCSI bus. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT user has questions (printer, upgrades, etc) Date: 23 Feb 1997 02:33:16 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5eoa9c$ftq@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> <330D60B7.6C53@soback.kornet.nm.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: scz-ca7-04.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Feb 22 8:33:16 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) younghoon KIL wrote: > Yes, NEXTSTEP 3.3 work on 030 cube, but very slow. > Probably, OPENSTEP will work too. Although I've never tried it, I would characterize OS on an 030 Cube to be unusable for any real work judging by the comparison of the performance of OS and NS 3.3 on an 040 Cube. There's little reason to upgrade to OS if you're not developing OS apps. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!usenet From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec questions Date: 22 Feb 1997 19:31:52 GMT Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5enhj8$19an@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Reply-To: atl2@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: dial43.cc.lehigh.edu Hi all! Are there any models of PCI-bus Adaptec controllers that will definitely NOT work on NS? Cheers! Alex Levine ATL2@lehigh.edu ? In particular, I'm wondering about the compatibility of that STB ViRGE/VX 4MB video card. Cheers! Alex Levine ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in2.uu.net!207.67.253.7!atmnet.net!newsfeed.slip.net!owl.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modem for TTYDSP Date: 22 Feb 1997 20:13:00 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5eog4c$9hv@slip.net> References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, I purchased a TTYDSP package only to find that TTYDPS is really, just a cable which plugs into the DSP port at one end and into an ISDN modem at the other. Can anyone recommend a modem to use with it? Can ISDN modems plug into regular phone lines and run at slower speeds? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in2.uu.net!207.67.253.7!atmnet.net!newsfeed.slip.net!owl.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Date: 22 Feb 1997 20:09:59 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, I've heard that some Motorola NeXT machines can be set up to run with two processors. Is this done by seting two chips into the mother board? Can this be done on a 040/25mhz board? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news.prtc.net!news From: "Luis F" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 23 Feb 1997 02:00:56 GMT Organization: Puerto Rico Telephone Company Lines: 20 Message-ID: <01bc204b$be027780$LocalHost@citymart> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <01bc1ea2$5c345500$50bd6bcc@chapio.wolfe.net> <330ddb30.4702212@news.erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.146.69.222 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2657 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:134858 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87245 comp.sys.next.hardware:27402 Go to http:\\mmx.com\ It's a web site from Intel with plenty of information about the MMX chip (MMX used to stand for Multi-Media eXtensions. These are additional chip-level instrucciones that perform common multimedia-type instructions. Any instruction that resides directly on the CPU should be faster than program code, optimized or not.) Whether you need this chip or not depends. I believe the advantages are not worth an upgrade right now but if shopping for a new system, go for it as the price difference between it and a regular system isn't that much. Michele Chubirka wrote in article <330ddb30.4702212@news.erols.com>... > Okay, > > Will someone explain, (for a layman) what an MMX chip is? I've > started to hear about it, but know nothing about it and I'm NOT a > programmer. > > Michele #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ionews.ionet.net!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!in1.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: 23 Feb 1997 00:16:20 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5eo28k$o6m@news2.cais.com> References: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.177.56.103 In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25169 comp.sys.next.hardware:27403 [excellent answer deleted] Just a minor correction to Chuck's response. Only 68040 based NeXT hardware has both styles of Ethernet jacks. The original 68030 systems had 10-Base-2 only. Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with station boot problem Date: 23 Feb 1997 00:53:32 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: <19970223005300.TAA11748@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!taurus!adnline24065.adnc.com!user From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT CD / Floppy drive face plates Date: 22 Feb 1997 05:14:06 GMT Organization: adnc.com Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.251.240.65 I've set up a jig to mill the front face of a Cube for a CD or Floppy drive to eject the disc. The finished product looks as though NeXT did it themselves. Or I can do both. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in1.uu.net!128.255.40.11!news.uiowa.edu!news From: freeman@cornell-iowa.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Colorstation and non-NeXT (Epson?)printer help Date: 23 Feb 1997 06:26:23 GMT Organization: The University of Iowa Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5eonuf$r4o@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-euler.csc.cornell-iowa.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I have looked at the FAQ and other resources and it is still not clear if it is possible to connect non-NeXT printers to a 040 colorstation? I am particularly interested in connecting an Espon printer to the station. If you have a non-NeXT printer connected to a color station, would you be kind enough to let me know the cable you used and the software driver (dots or JetPilot?) used. Thank you. Jim --- Dr. James H.Freeman freeman@Cornell-Iowa.edu (Nextmail OK) Department of Mathematics (Mime OK) Cornell College 319-895-4393(office) 600 First Street West 319-895-6866(home) Mount Vernon, Iowa 52314-1098 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.san.rr.com!usenet From: "jojo" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sun Ultra 1 Date: 23 Feb 1997 03:38:31 GMT Organization: Road Runner Lines: 3 Message-ID: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dt7h1n0d.san.rr.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Anybody know whether 3.3 /4.1 will run on an Ultra 1? I called NeXT and the tech did not know if it worked. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news.ttu.edu!usenet From: Jason Patrick Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTcube and non-parity SCSI devices Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 09:58:22 -0600 Organization: The crazy fellow Lines: 14 Message-ID: <330F179E.2037@4thdim.com> Reply-To: jason@4thdim.com NNTP-Posting-Host: accs02-7.ttu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) Hi all, I recently found an old external single speed NEC CDROM drive (CDR-25BJ, non-parity only) and am trying to connect it to my NeXTcube. I keep geeting the standard PARITY ERROR message that one usually gets when attaching non-parity devices to SCSI cards. The only problem is that I can't figure out how to turn parity checking off on the NeXTcube. I know the drive is only single speed, but I hate to see a perfectly good piece of hardware go to waste. Thanks, Jason Patrick #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: New NeXT user has questions (printer, upgrades, etc) Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:04:06 GMT Lines: 89 In article <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > I have a number of questions I'm > hoping to get some answers on.... > > 1. What kind of hardware and software > do I need to connect two cubes? > A BNC cable of at least 4' length, two T-connectors and two termination resistors. The software is right there. You just have to configure (see online sysadmin manual) . > 2. I want to upgrade my RAM and > hard drive. Should I install > a new OS, then upgrade the > hardware, or visa versa? > Both ways work as well. It just depends whether you want to keep the old drive or replace. > 3. I purchased a swap drive. Would > it fit in a slot normally kept > available for a second hard drive? > On a cube, yes. A swap drive just like any other hard disk, just that the label is different (can be changed easily). Possibly it is smaller and slower... > 4. What kind of memory do I use to > upgrade my RAM? > Depends on the model. Refer to the FAQ on Peanuts or NeXTanswers. > 7. Is it possible to do a destructive > install so that after upgrading an > OS the machine behaves like it is > new? > A install is desructive a upgrade not (that's why it's called a upgrade ;-) > 8. Does an academic bundle include both > developer and user? > Yo! > 9. Can one use TTYDSP with Openstep 4.1? > What kind of modem can be used with > TTYDSP so one can use a regular phone > line? (Is this possible?) > I've never tested it but I see no reason why not. TTYDSP is providing plain serial lines over the DSP port, just more and faster as the regular ones. > 10. Can you recommend a modem (to run on > the serial port? Will I have to purchase > a special NeXT cable? Is there a cable/ > modem which I can use to put my computer > on the Web without having to have an ISDN > line? > A few years ago almost everyone used to have a ZyXEL (I still use one). I don't know what's up today. But it still holds that it depends on the usage you want to make, therefore the software you can get. You need a special cable (online manual or FAQ). And you would probably have trouble getting a ISDN terminal adapter to work as intended. Analog modems always work as usual. But a TTYDSP possibly would make a difference... > 11. Ah, I have the NS 3.3 User CD. I think I > can purchase NS 3.3 Developer for about 400$. > This includes a license, but it is very unlikely > I'll ever want to develop and sell some software. > My goal is to put my own machine on the Web. > My roommate is a full time student. Am I better > off getting 3.3, or OpenStep? > OPENSTEP/Mach is only for professional developers, IMHO. > > 12. Is it possible to put 3.3 or OpenStep on a > machine with an 030 chip? > It will creep, but besides from that everything will be ok. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf_see_signature From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How does one terminate the internal end of a Cube SCSI bus? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 08:56:21 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5eo9rg$ftq@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 In article <5eo9rg$ftq@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) wrote: > The old original Maxtor 330 Winchester has failed in my Cube. I'd like > to remove the drive, but not replace it. How does one terminate the internal > end of the SCSI bus. 1. Find an old-time Mac dealer and ask him for a IIfx SCSI terminator. This is a resistor pack that plugs into the ribbon cable. I think your probability of success is low. 2. Get a catalog from a real electronic component distributor and look for such an item. I have one at work but not here at home :-(. The closest Yahoo match I could find was Farnell (a Bristish firm with a US outlet). You could try http://www.farnell.co.uk/components/catalogue/index.html. Or you browse around http://www.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Companies/Electronics/Distributors /. Again, I'd be surprised if you find a terminator pack, since most computers ship with an internal drive and, as noted below, modern PCs run just fine with no internal terminator. 3. Remove old drive. Attach new external drive, properly terminated. Remove the ribbon cable and keep it for possible future use. Power up the cube. We have at least ten Macs that we have done this with, due to security rules, and they all work without internal terminators. We had a cube with no internal drive, for the same reason, and I don't think it had any internal terminator pack. But it's long since gone, and the only way you'll find out is to try. Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC VERSA 6030X laptop driver needed Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:26:24 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3310619A.BC1@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <01bc1ed7$4efdf780$e6f983c1@jo> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.224.92 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: JOACHIM MOSAKU JOACHIM MOSAKU wrote: > > Driver for NEC VERSA 6030X laptop needed for OpenStep 4.1. It uses a Chips > & Technologies 65550 chipset and 2MB VRAM and 16bit colour at 1024x768. Has > anyone resolved issues associated with swapping between CD ROM and floppy > drive in the Versa bay. > > Many thanks, > > Jo Mosaku, > jo@easynet.co.uk To get video driver for Chips & Technologies 65550 chipset, Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:30:51 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 9 Message-ID: <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.224.92 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: "Noah M. Daniels" Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27412 comp.sys.next.programmer:23028 comp.sys.next.software:28224 Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ or http://www.bifrostworks.com younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gdm From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Date: 23 Feb 1997 19:22:33 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5eq5dp$1fd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > In article <5eofun$9cv@slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: >> I've heard that some Motorola NeXT machines can >> be set up to run with two processors. Is this done >> by seting two chips into the mother board? Can >> this be done on a 040/25mhz board? > I think you've heard incorrectly. All black hardware in a way comes with > two processors--the main CPU and the DSP. NeXTdimension boards have an > Intel i860 on them, which is I suppose a third. However, you only have one > for main OS use. This is not technically correct. It is possible, by removing the NeXTbus interface chip, possible to run multiple CPU boards in a single 'cube. Of course, the operating system isn't multithreaded, and it's usually done by having one board netboot from the other, but it is entirely possible. In fact, one could even write a shell script called, say, 'gcc-distrib' that would task all compiling off to the second CPU board. Or, you can set NXHost on the second CPU board to display applications onto the first CPU board's display. This is a really neat trick; you could even throw three CPU boards (there is a total limit of 4, because that's how many NeXTbus slots there are) into the system and have one "imaging board", one "compiling board" and one "front-end board," which would be a pretty neat trick. You could even share file space across all of the machines with NFS. However, this is not something you want to do casually. Your basic OS tasks won't be tasked parallel (unless you wanted to write some sort of a wrapper for your shell that checked the load avg. on each CPU, then tasked each command out to the board with the smaller load...hmmmm, maybe I should try this). GP #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:17:08 GMT References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com>, jojo wrote: >Anybody know whether 3.3 /4.1 will run on an Ultra 1? I called NeXT and the >tech did not know if it worked. > It won't work. NeXT's operating systems will only work on SuperSPARC and MicroSPARC II CPUs. No HyperSPARC or UltraSPARC support. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:19:02 GMT References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 20 In article <5eofun$9cv@slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: >Hi, > >I've heard that some Motorola NeXT machines can >be set up to run with two processors. Is this done >by seting two chips into the mother board? Can >this be done on a 040/25mhz board? > I think you've heard incorrectly. All black hardware in a way comes with two processors--the main CPU and the DSP. NeXTdimension boards have an Intel i860 on them, which is I suppose a third. However, you only have one for main OS use. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news-lond.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!IRIS.global-one.nl!douwe.box.nl!user From: "Jan van Die" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT desktop - THANKS! Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:10:07 +0200 Organization: Uitgeverij Divo Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: nntp.box.nl X-Newsreader: Mac Athena I received a lot of screendumps of the NeXT-desktop. They certainly arrived in time for my story about the Apple/NeXT. Thank you all very much! This is a great newsgroup! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:32:30 GMT References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> <5eq5dp$1fd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 25 In article <5eq5dp$1fd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Gian-Paolo D Musumeci wrote: >dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: >> I think you've heard incorrectly. All black hardware in a way comes with >> two processors--the main CPU and the DSP. NeXTdimension boards have an >> Intel i860 on them, which is I suppose a third. However, you only have one >> for main OS use. > >This is not technically correct. It is possible, by removing the NeXTbus >interface chip, possible to run multiple CPU boards in a single 'cube. Of >course, the operating system isn't multithreaded, and it's usually done by >having one board netboot from the other, but it is entirely possible. In >fact, one could even write a shell script called, say, 'gcc-distrib' that >would task all compiling off to the second CPU board. > I suppose. Then you basically have two machines in one case. I'm not sure I'd call that "two CPUs in one machine" but I suppose it is. :) However, it is a fun game. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!mindspring!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!p0.ts24.metro.ma.tiac.com!user From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:14:54 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: p0.ts24.metro.ma.tiac.com X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27418 comp.sys.next.programmer:23035 comp.sys.next.software:28231 In article <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr>, ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr wrote: > Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ or > http://www.bifrostworks.com Hmm.. the former has some drivers though I don't think they're the right ones. However, the bifrostworks link doesn't work... the domain does not exist. I also tried bitfrostworks.com, in case you made a typo, but that didn't work either. Any ideas? Thanks, -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!gatech!smash.gatech.edu!chmsr!tg From: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.mac.portables Subject: What notebook will you recommend? Date: 21 Feb 1997 12:12:00 GMT Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech Lines: 31 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ek3eg$mnt@smash.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chmsr.isye.gatech.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27419 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25492 comp.sys.mac.portables:81653 I am about to buy a notebook computer. Having only used the cubes from the beginning (of NeXT), and continuing to use them along with NEXTSTEP on Sparcs, I am not too knowledgeable about Intel. I have been seriously looking into the Toshiba Tecra 730, from Bifrost Works, since I can buy it with openstep pre-installed. I have been corresponding with Jason and I really like his responsiveness and helpful attitude. There are a couple of problems. First I will have to get a special dispensation from the state to buy computers that are either not on the approved list or from vendors who are not approved. This could be a major hurdle. I know Gateway is on the approved list, but I don't know how difficult it would be to install openstep on a Gateway notebook. I am likely to hear objections (and possibly denial to buy) since the Toshiba is more expensive than a "comparable" (i.e., processor speed etc.) machine from Gateway or some other company. If you have recently bought a Gateway or other fast notebook (not less than 12.1 active matrix screen), I would appreciate your advice and suggestions. Openstep will be my primary operating system, with space allocated for Linux, and windoze NT. Thank you very much. govind Even the new Apple PowerBooks look attractive, and I could consider buying one instead, hoping that I will get Rhapsody as soon as it becomes available. T. Govindaraj, Georgia Tech, 765 Ferst Drive, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205. http://www.isye.gatech.edu/faculty/T_Govindaraj, +1 404 894 3873 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Date: 24 Feb 1997 04:55:55 GMT Organization: Petroleum and Geosystem Engineering, U of Texas at Austin, Austin TX Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu Being a Cube user where I can put the Cube underneath the table, I'm a bit annoyed with the loud noise that came from a turbo color station that I have to put on top of the table (because the monitor cable is very short :( So: - is it possible to reduce the fan sound ? replace with a quieter one ? - or, is there an extention cable so I can put the station underneath the table ? Similar to the long monitor cable for the cubes. I believe the connector is 13W2. I'm pretty sure that the loud noise came from the fan, as I did unplug the fan and the whole noise gone ;) Thanks for all pointers, Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.syd.connect.com.au!phaedrus.kralizec.net.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!news From: Adam Anderson Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:02:13 -0800 Organization: EVOLUTION Lines: 25 Message-ID: <331201D5.16D9@technologist.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> Reply-To: adamanderson@technologist.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.24.140.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2675 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:135202 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87376 comp.sys.next.hardware:27421 regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > the money. "A pipelined Floating-Point Unit (FPU) for supporting the 32- and 64- formats specified in IEEE standard 754, as well as an 80-bit format. It is capable of executing two floating-point instructions in a single clock, achieving over five times the floating-point performance with instruction scheduling and overlapped (pipelined) execution. The FPU is object-code compatible with the Intel486 DX and Intel 487 SX, Intel 387 DX, and Intel 387 SX math coprocessors." Quote from intel, if you believe them! http://developer.intel.com/design/mmx/index.htm _____________ Adam Anderson #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Success w/GS, remote printer on black? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 29 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:38:34 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27422 comp.sys.next.software:28234 Hi... I'm having some serious troubles. I'm trying to set up Ghostscript 4.03 as an input filter to a remote, networked printer (an HP LaserJet 5L, hooked up to an old 8086 DOS machine running a dumb LPD (i.e., I can't run a filter on that machine), which is ThinNetted to my 040 black non-turbo slab. I've tried several times to get this working directly via a serial connection, using a serial/parallel converter, with no luck (and I have other reasons for not wanting to do this as well). What I've got, basically, is a working (I think) GS 4.03 installation, and I've used NetInfoManager to set the input filter to run GS as a postscript filter. Now, I'm stuck. I know what I need to do is set up a dummy printer entry that points to the remote machine and printer, but how do I get the printer that has the if to pass its output to this dummy printer entry? I've tried running an output-filter script, but it didn't work, and I've also tried setting up the remote printing from the same printer with the if, but it ignores the if and passes the postscript directly to the remote machine, which is no good, since the 5L is a non-postscript printer. Can anyone offer any help? Thanks, Mark C. Langston -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!208.195.156.10!news.walltech.com!news.lanminds.com!lana!jba From: jba@lanminds.com (=JA3=John Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cant Power off??? Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:51:22 GMT Organization: LanMinds, Inc. (Not Responsible for Content) Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5era8q$fmn@lanshark.lanminds.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.174.208.211 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello, I'm pretty new to NeXT (but not unix)..I've gor a Color Station (non turbo) running NS 3.3 After the upgrade to 3.3 from 2.1 whenever I ask the machine to power off, it does but immediatly powers back up again.... any ideas? thanks #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTcube and non-parity SCSI devices References: <330F179E.2037@4thdim.com> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <3311383e.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 24 Feb 97 06:42:06 GMT Lines: 26 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article <330F179E.2037@4thdim.com>, Jason Patrick wrote: >Hi all, > >I recently found an old external single speed NEC CDROM drive (CDR-25BJ, >non-parity only) and am trying to connect it to my NeXTcube. I keep >geeting the standard PARITY ERROR message that one usually gets when >attaching non-parity devices to SCSI cards. The only problem is that I >can't figure out how to turn parity checking off on the NeXTcube. [snip] > >Jason Patrick AFAIK the Cube does not use parity checking. Maybe you need to turn off parity checking in your drive. Of course, there is also the possibility the NEC drive is simply incompatible. The original NeXT single speed CD-ROM drive was a Sony CDU-541. david ---- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!qmw!news From: Piazza Talker 00000000 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:41:45 +0000 Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK Lines: 33 Message-ID: <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: soc.unl.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) David Evans wrote: > > In article <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com>, > jojo wrote: > >Anybody know whether 3.3 /4.1 will run on an Ultra 1? I called NeXT and the > >tech did not know if it worked. > > > > It won't work. NeXT's operating systems will only work on SuperSPARC and > MicroSPARC II CPUs. No HyperSPARC or UltraSPARC support. > Well, that may not be correct. UltraSPARC has been manufactured with (binary) backward-compatibility in mind. You install the same Solaris 2.5 on SPARCServer 20 as on an Netra i (UltraSPARC 1/140) for example.. Sun would go bust if they had to re-write their huge software collection if it wasn't like that. But, maybe you are referring to UltraSPARC optimizations. UltraSPARC has, for example, OpenGL optimizations (and thus has been said to be the fastest (!) non-accelerated 3d workstation. Even faster than indigo for example...). And even if you prove that I'm wrong (unlikely) you can allways go to www.sun.com and get the OpenStep for free..CDE aswell..then run whatever you want depending on your mood... Pele -- Virtual Piazza telnet to zodiac.unl.ac.uk 3000 Talker based on nutsOO.2 by Predrag Balorda Admin team: Predrag Balorda,Hollie Keglovitz and Massimiliano Baki For more info please e-mail: piazza@zodiac.unl.ac.uk or piazza@soc.unl.ac.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Date: 24 Feb 1997 14:30:37 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5es8md$ct7$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: paprika.physik.tu-berlin.de In-Reply-To: <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00004 Hello, On 02/24/97, Piazza Talker 00000000 wrote: >And even if you prove that I'm >wrong (unlikely) you can allways go to www.sun.com and get the >OpenStep for free..CDE aswell..then run whatever you want depending >on your mood... That ist not comparable to NEXTSTEP for MachOS on Sun-Hardware. Don't get me wrong: I think OPENSTEP for Solaris works quite well and SUN did a great job especially if you compare it to the buggy 4.0 Version for Mach. But it is a difference if you only have Mail, Edit, Terminal, Preview and Workspace (on Solaris OPENSTEP) or almost every programm that was compiled during the last two years (on OPENSTEP for MachOS on Sparc Hardware). Dirk Schwarzhans -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dirk Schwarzhans Email: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (MIME and NeXTMail welcome) WWW: http://pl.physik.TU-Berlin.DE/DZ/Dirk/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!decwrl!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardware choices Date: 24 Feb 1997 14:20:16 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5es830$3hs@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: acubed.mgmt.purdue.edu Sorry to bother you all with yet another "what hardware should I buy" post, but I don't know where to go to find this information other than NeXTAnswers. I simply don't know enough about Intel stuff to make good choices. My situation is that I'm in the process of buying a Gateway PPro200. I'm getting a SCSI-based system, so that's good. :) My specific questions are: 1) has anybody gotten a system with an internal Zip drive? If so, does it work well with NS. 2) Video..... I'm probably going to do a Matrox Millenium w/4M. It seems to me that there have been a couple posts about the same card running at different speeds? If I want the best one, what do I ask for/about? Monitor. I'd REALLY like to go 21" 1600x1200. Does anybody have suggestions? I'd REALLY like to do and NEC, but I don't have $2k. John Kheit suggests the following: 67Hz with max .28 dot pitch. Any suggestions for good reasonably price monitors with these specs. Thanks much! If people want to send me this in e-mail (jon@mgmt.purdue.edu) I'll be happy to synthesize it all into a reasonably sized post. Thanks again. Cheers - Jon -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (765) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (765) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (765) 742-7961 (Home) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!compuserve.com!newsgate.compuserve.com!newsmaster From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modem for TTYDSP Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:29:50 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 25 Message-ID: <33117BAE.5828@gcomm.com> References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> <5eog4c$9hv@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ad29-235.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) Emmett McLean wrote: > > Hi, > > I purchased a TTYDSP package only to find that > TTYDPS is really, just a cable which plugs into > the DSP port at one end and into an ISDN modem > at the other. Can anyone recommend a modem > to use with it? > > Can ISDN modems plug into regular phone lines > and run at slower speeds? > > Thanks, > > Emmett Hi Emmett! Where did you purchased TTYDSP? Which is the cost? I am very interested in adding an ISDN modem to my black-box. TIA Amando Blasco #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:53:55 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <8n4PaHi00iUxA21Q4R@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: po8.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 24-Feb-97 Re: Sun Ultra 1 by Piazza Talker@soc.unl.ac >> It won't work. NeXT's operating systems will only work on SuperSPARC and >> MicroSPARC II CPUs. No HyperSPARC or UltraSPARC support. > > Well, that may not be correct. UltraSPARC has been manufactured with > (binary) backward-compatibility in mind. You install the same Solaris > 2.5 on SPARCServer 20 as on an Netra i (UltraSPARC 1/140) for example.. The UltraSPARC has backwards compatibility with _executables_. However, you have to specificly design your kernel to deal with the new traps, RED_state, etc developed for the SPARC v9 architecture. NEXTSTEP/SPARC will only run on the v8 architecture right now.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:14:54 GMT References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 34 In article <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk>, Piazza Talker 00000000 wrote: >David Evans wrote: >> >> It won't work. NeXT's operating systems will only work on SuperSPARC and >> MicroSPARC II CPUs. No HyperSPARC or UltraSPARC support. >> > >Well, that may not be correct. UltraSPARC has been manufactured with >(binary) backward-compatibility in mind. You install the same Solaris >2.5 on SPARCServer 20 as on an Netra i (UltraSPARC 1/140) for example.. >Sun would go bust if they had to re-write their huge software collection >if it wasn't like that. It may be user-code compatible, but I hear that it's not supervisor-level (or whatever it's called in SPARC-land) compatible. Solaris understands how to detect the SPARC implementation that it's running on and adapt accordingly. NeXTSTEP (and OPENSTEP/Mach) has no such logic. I can install the same Solaris CD on my SPARC 10 and my SPARC ELC, but NeXTSTEP won't run on the ELC. Plus, I've heard several reports of NS not working on Ultra hardware. >you can allways go to www.sun.com and get the OpenStep >for free..CDE aswell..then run whatever you want depending on your >mood... True. I did this and OPENSTEP/Solaris is pretty nifty. A little painful on a -10 with 32MB memory, though. And remember it's not binary-compatible with NeXTSTEP. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!news.dra.com!newsfeeder.gi.net!news.mid.net!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Date: 24 Feb 1997 17:15:43 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5esibv$mv7@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: mathlab59.unl.edu In article <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> "jojo" writes: > Anybody know whether 3.3 /4.1 will run on an Ultra 1? I called NeXT and the > tech did not know if it worked. Nope, won't work. Only Sparc 4,5,10,20 models are suppported by NS/OS. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!info.uah.edu!pluto!wli From: wli@pluto (Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: NeXTStation (ADB) Date: 24 Feb 1997 18:28:11 GMT Organization: The University of Alabama in Huntsville Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5esmjr$39c@info.uah.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.229.2.78 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] One mono NeXTStation in excellent condition NS 3.0 installed. 24MB RAM, 1.08GB HD (brand new Quantum). Monitor, keyboard, mouse, and the complete system documentation are included. Installed software include WordPerfect, Improve, Draw, and Mathematica. The system is an ADB system which uses the standard 72 pin SIMMs, EDO or non-EDO (in stead of the 30 pin SIMMs), and the Apple-compatible keyboard+mouse. Most software come with floppies. $590/obo + shipping. Please drop me a line at "wli@cs.uah.edu" if you are interested. Thanks. -wei, wli@cs.uah.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!skypoint.com!not-for-mail From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Null Modem cable for CUBE? Date: 24 Feb 1997 18:11:04 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5esljo$spd$1@shadow.skypoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial006.skypoint.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20011-01 I am trying to hook a Apple Personel LaserWriter to a 040 Cube with no luck. OpenStep 4.1 comes with the proper driver but I think the problem is in the cable. I have a "NULL modem" cable for Apple LW printers (8+ years old) but checking the pinouts against the pinouts in the SysAdm manual that came with 4.1 they are not the same. Short of making one does anyone know anyplace that sells NeXT Null modem cables that are the same as the pinout spec in the SysAdm manual? Thanks -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ############################################################### #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!gdls.com!news From: Arthur Schwarz Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:37:25 -0500 Organization: General Dynamics Land Systems Lines: 69 Message-ID: <3311DFE5.1A8A@gdls.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> <331201D5.16D9@technologist.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bambi.gdls.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2677 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:135321 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87426 comp.sys.next.hardware:27434 Adam/regan; Just a little note. In reading the Intel blurbs on MMX, the ACM Communications (Jan. 97, V40N1), or the Intel MMX Architecture Description (somewhere in http://www.intel.com/ - land), there is explicit mention of the architectural foundation and rationale behind MMX. This includes specific and particular mention concerning the decision to use the Pentium Floating Point Functional Units and the impact of such use on competing Floating Point uses. Your statement concerning the lack of 'any' mention of conflict is unsupportable. From the cited ACM Communications, pg. 16: "We also had to ensure coexistence of existing applications and new applications using MMX technology. ... The main technicque for main- taining full compatibility of MMX technology was "hiding" it inside the existing floating-point state and registers ... . Again, I would anticipate that since dual use (MMX and Floating Point operations) are not allowed for a Floating Point Functional Unit, I would agree with the notion that there will be some slowing. Further, A recent article (Electronic Engineering Times?) states that initial implementation of the MMX instruction set can take a considerable amount of time (50 clock cycles?) to execute, so the denial of use can be substantial, although Intel has stated, and I concur, that 'clever' instruction reordering can reduce this latency. Intel has stated that future chip implementations will be substantially faster in executing MMX instructions (10 clock cycles?). One conclusion for prospective buyers is to delay purchase of the first MMX chip set and wait for the second introduction. art schwarz Adam Anderson wrote: > > regan wrote: > > > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > > the money. > > "A pipelined Floating-Point Unit (FPU) for supporting the 32- and 64- > formats specified in IEEE standard 754, as well as an 80-bit format. It > is capable of executing two floating-point instructions in a single > clock, achieving over five times the floating-point performance with > instruction scheduling and overlapped (pipelined) execution. The FPU is > object-code compatible with the Intel486 DX and Intel 487 SX, Intel 387 > DX, and Intel 387 SX math coprocessors." > Quote from intel, if you believe them! > http://developer.intel.com/design/mmx/index.htm > > _____________ > Adam Anderson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems(?) with external SCSI Date: 24 Feb 1997 14:10:04 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Lines: 46 Message-ID: <5et03c$mh3@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5eig44$hca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) wrote: >I have been using an internal Sony SCSI CDROM on my Intel machine with >NS3.3 for some time without any problems. I put it into an external SCSI >case so that I could connect it to my TurboColor NeXTstation. This works >fine with the NeXT or Lighthouse CD, but when I put a music CD in, I get > >sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 > SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) > sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 > SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label) > sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 > SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label) > sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 > SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) > DISK UNFORMATTED > Disk is Write Protected > probing for DOS >probing for CDROM >probing for mac >probing for cdaudio >Feb 20 16:06:13 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio > >in the console, after which there is no problem. I've checked and >rechecked temination and SCSI ID as well as I could given the the case's >inadequate docs. > >So what's wrong? Since it actually works, should I care? I just don't >want to damage the on-board SCSI controller or risk data on the HD. > This is quite normal, but like you, it scares the bejeezus out of me when I first saw it. Similar errors pop up for error mesages like "Device not ready: RETRY 1" or somesuch. Now THESE are problems. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!clas.ufl.edu!hee.phys.ufl.edu!ddr From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: 24 Feb 1997 20:09:16 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5esshc$4m3@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> References: <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <8n3Q=ru00iVCI22fMI@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hee.phys.ufl.edu In article <8n3Q=ru00iVCI22fMI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 21-Feb-97 Re: HELP: >Network NeXT to a.. by Jeff Trestrail@ix.netcom > >While that works, it is not recommended. Besides, if all you want to do >is hook up two computers, it's easier to use thinnet.... > Can someone tell me what ip numbers I should use in a case like this a NeXt with a network connection at the BNC connector a PC with a network connection at the BNC connector going to the NeXt and a modem going to my ISP. I have a static ip for the ISP so I know that number, on the network cards what numbers should I use? I don't necessarily have to be able to route packets from the NeXt through the PC to the ISP, just need to be able to transfer files between the PC and the NeXt. Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Department, University of Florida --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 24 Feb 1997 13:58:03 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5esvcr$l69@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr> <5encmv$ajd@crl10.crl.com> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) wrote: >In article <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr>, >Eric Levenez wrote: >>eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) wrote: >>>There are two hardware add-ons that I am aware of, a 32k memory module >> >>There is also a ISDN adapter from Hayes. >> >Oh yeah, I forgot about th emouch raved about voicemail/telephony package >from ilink called mix. As far as I can tell it is a programmable voice >mail system running on the DSP. Yes, I have one of those :) Also, there is the Daydream, from QUIX, the "Mac Emulator". The box with the Mac ROMs plugs into the DSP, and there was a Powerglove interface project in the early 1990's (I built one of those as well). -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 24 Feb 1997 14:03:03 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >In article <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb>, >Integrated Wellness Systems wrote: >>How about adding memory and a faster hard drive? If you don't have the max >>amount of ram, you'll enjoy a big boost. This is the cheapest way to get >>max performance. >> > > True. However, depending on what you're doing there is a point where adding >more RAM doesn't help. Unless I'm doing heavy OmniWebbing I'm pretty happy >with 32MB on my cube (36MB on my Dimension board). However, my life would >likely be better if I got off my butt and installed a faster disk. > That's an interesting thought, I have an HP Surestore 2.1 Gig hooked up to my Turbocolor, and get mediocre performance at best (Under 1MB/Sec). This is nowhere near the specs for SCSI II or the SCSI I capabilities. Older drives such as the Fujitsu (512MB and 1.2GB) and the original Maxtor 5 1.4" fullheight monster that came in my cube all give similar performance, although there was a slight noticeable difference between the Maxor and the others. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i534.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT on Campus magazines Date: 24 Feb 1997 23:17:49 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i534.oro.net All and any issue. Tom #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware From: ericbela@total.net (Eric Bélanger) Subject: Re: Wanted BIOS upgrade. Please assist. Organization: Constellation du Verseau References: <01bc1a5b$284b4960$3523fbc2@paulmc> X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 17:03:50 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.236.100.224 Message-ID: <3311c9f5.0@news.total.net> Lines: 10 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!mongol.sasknet.sk.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!news.total.net!bladerunner Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom:44711 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:135366 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87447 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:52804 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video:149953 comp.sys.next.hardware:27440 In article <01bc1a5b$284b4960$3523fbc2@paulmc>, "Paul McGuire" wrote: >Hi. >I got a Microstar 5129 M/B and wish to upgrade the BIOS to make it >compatible with MMX chips. >Only problem is I dont know where to get the BIOS upgrade from. >Please help.Paul.... You should try http://www.msi.com.tw/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!news.mathworks.com!out2.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NumberNine Imagine 128 - 2 beta driver Date: 24 Feb 1997 22:55:01 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5et685$shu@news2.cais.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.177.56.103 In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Get the OmniPentiumPro driver from http://www.omnigroup.com. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!spool.mu.edu!newshub.tc.umn.edu!newsstand.tc.umn.edu!not-for-mail From: shan0029@gold.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Shutdown/halt/reboot fails on NS 3.3 Intel Date: 24 Feb 1997 15:40:43 -0600 Organization: University of Minnesota Lines: 38 Sender: shan0029@gold.tc.umn.edu Message-ID: <5et1sr$3cv@gold.tc.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gold.tc.umn.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25508 comp.sys.next.hardware:27442 Whenever I attempt to halt my system, I get the following messages: unmounting Dos... Done unmounting Netware... Done unmounting /Net.... Done unmounting swapfile.front....Done unmounting disk2....Done Root unmount FAILED 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3It's safe to power off computer. Sometimes I get 1s instead of the 3s. Since the system doesn't go down clean, I wind up having to fsck the drive after every reboot. Normally this isn't a problem, (why ever boot into DOS ;) but I will have to use a couple of programs under WinNT and this could get kinda annoying. My config: NS 3.3 (user+dev, patched) SuperMicro PCI Mainboard, Intel P150 CPU 32 MB EDO RAM Diamond Stealth 64 2MB Intel EtherExpress Logitech Bus Mouse NCR PCI SCSI adapter 500MB Seagate ST5660N (root/boot partition) 1.2 MB Fujitsu M1606S (mounted at /disk2) Iomega Zip Drive (external) Thanks for any help. ---- Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9215 Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201 Department of Neurosurgery shanbhag@neuro.med.umn.edu University of Minnesota (NeXT & MIME) sharad@next1.neuro.umn.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!hone!informer1.cis.McMaster.CA!hwfn!james!ad651 From: ad651@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Louis Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Followup-To: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 25 Feb 1997 01:47:51 GMT Organization: Hamilton-Wentworth FreeNet, Ontario, Canada. Lines: 56 Message-ID: <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 NNTP-Posting-Host: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2-HWFN] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2679 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:135406 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87463 comp.sys.next.hardware:27443 Distribution: wow what a newsgroup list. anyway, basically, any CPU since way back in the old days fetches a program instruction from the program in memory, then looks thru its instruction set to find out what gates to open, signals to issue, how long to wait etc. so, with MMX you now have about 30 or 40 brand new instructions for the CPU to act on directly related to multi media processes. a short cut. thus, MMX is faster ONLY for MMX apps!!! dont get an MMX CPU if you arent getting MMX apps that are written to make use of the new instructions!!! n.b.: RISC processors like those found in laser printers work faster because even though they have a 'Reduced Instruction Set' (Computer), well, they dont need the missing instructions anyway so the look up process happens faster. Michele Chubirka (animat@erols.com) wrote: : Okay, : Will someone explain, (for a layman) what an MMX chip is? I've : started to hear about it, but know nothing about it and I'm NOT a : programmer. : Michele : On 19 Feb 1997 20:19:25 GMT, "Jeff Chapman" : wrote: : > : > : >clark001@ix.netcom.com wrote in article : ><33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com>... : >> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: : >> : >> : >> > : >> >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, : > : >No, let's always assume that the salesman has our best interest at heart... : >that's their real motivation, isn't it? That's why they'll always give an : >answer (any answer) to our probing questions... right? : > -- >feel free to add your flame response in the space provided: _ |_| #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news1.best.com!newsfeed.slip.net!owl.slip.net!not-for-mail From: Emmett McLean Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1 MB versus 4 MB Simms for 040 Date: 25 Feb 1997 02:09:21 GMT Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970124] Hi, Ah, I want to upgrade my 040 machine from 16 MB of RAM to 64 MB. It turns out that I can get 1 MB Simms for 3$ each, far less than 4 MB Simms. Is there any advantage, as far as performance is concerned to which type of memory I should use? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!pbrown From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1 MB versus 4 MB Simms for 040 Date: 25 Feb 1997 02:27:14 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ashkhabad.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.8.3 (BETA) UNIX) >It turns out that I can get 1 MB >Simms for 3$ each, far less than >4 MB Simms. >Is there any advantage, as far as >performance is concerned to which >type of memory I should use? Well, see, unless you have *64* slots, you'll find it difficult to get 64 1Mb SIMMs onto the motherboard... 16 x 4Mb is the only way, since you have 16 slots (in a cube, 8 in a slab). - P. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Christian Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS Audio driver for SB AWE32 Date: 25 Feb 1997 04:44:31 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 4 Message-ID: <01bc22d6$9eafd340$dcee92cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.238.220 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Has anyone seen or heard of an audio driver for NS 3.3 for a Creative Labs SB AWE32 card? If you have this or have seen it, drop me a line. Thanks!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 24 Feb 1997 21:44:08 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5etqmo$h18@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr> <5encmv$ajd@crl10.crl.com> <5esvcr$l69@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) wrote: >interface project in the early 1990's (I built one of those as well). Ack! bad grammar strikes again... I claim no credit for building Daydream or Mix. I only wish I could. I *did* build a NeXT<->Powerglove interface and doodled around with that for a while. Sorry for any confusion... I thought I'd catch it before someone more deserving of the credit did :-\. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!not-for-mail From: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) Subject: "freezing" Dell OptiplexGXPro w/NS 3.3...any ideas? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: woodlawn-nfs.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:29:04 GMT Lines: 38 I'm hoping someone can help me with my problem..I'm consistently getting freezes on a PPro machine running NS 3.3 + user patch. This happens regardless of whether someone is logged in or not. After a few minutes of inactivity the screen (mouse and keyboard) freezes completely. No option but to do a hard restart. As a first stab of what could be causing this, I've included the info that is gathered by the BugNeXT.app on the system: Hardware Configuration: Processor: I386 (Intel 486) Primary memory: 96.00 MB Hostname: localhost Boot Drivers Adaptec2940SCSIDriver SerialPorts Floppy PS2Keyboard PCIBus EISABus Drivers: Adaptec2940 System Serial at IRQ 4 3; ports 0x3f8-0x3ff 0x2f8-0x2ff Floppy at IRQ 6; DMA 2; ports 0x3f2-0x3f7 PS2Keyboard at IRQ 1; ports 0x60-0x65 PCIBus EISABus at IRQ 2; ports 0x00-0x0f 0x20-0x21 0x40-0x4b 0x70-0x71 0x81-0x8F 0x92-0x92 0xc0-0xcf PS2Mouse at IRQ 12; System Parallel at IRQ 7; ports 0x378-0x37f #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 Beep Sound Blaster 16 at IRQ 5; DMA 1 5; ports 0x0220-0x0233 0x330-0x331 0x388-0x389 Omni Pentium Pro Driver Obviously I can provide more details if pertinent. Any suggestions at all would be very, very appreciated. arno #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: 25 Feb 1997 05:41:23 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: <19970225054101.AAA07009@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Managed to get this working--My thanks to Radical Solutions for the great web page on it! However, on the NeXT, it pops up with a rather plain (generic SCSI?) icon. Has anyone put together a pair of icon tiffs for the Zip drive? I'm considering doing a set... I'd be obliged at any thoughts or information anyone could offer. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news1.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: Ryan Watkins Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: 25 Feb 1997 02:07:56 -0800 Organization: Dimension X, Inc. http://www.dimensionx.com/ Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <8n3Q=ru00iVCI22fMI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5esshc$4m3@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: shellx.best.com X-Url: http://www.vamp.org/vamp.html X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.14/XEmacs 19.14 ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) writes: > >While that works, it is not recommended. Besides, if all you want to do > >is hook up two computers, it's easier to use thinnet.... > > Can someone tell me what ip numbers I should use in a case like this > a NeXt with a network connection at the BNC connector > a PC with a network connection at the BNC connector going > to the NeXt and a modem going to my ISP. I have a static ip > for the ISP so I know that number, on the network cards what > numbers should I use? > > I don't necessarily have to be able to route packets from the NeXt > through the PC to the ISP, just need to be able to transfer files > between the PC and the NeXt. "RFC 1918 requests that organizations make use of the private Internet address space for hosts that require IP connectivity within their enterprise network, but do not require external connections to the global Internet. For this purpose, the IANA has reserved the following three address blocks for private internets: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)" (from Understanding IP Addressing: Everything You Ever Wanted To Know By Chuck Semeria) You can use IPs that are specifically allocated for private networks. I've got a couple NeXT's and a Linux machine setup this way, using the 192.168.1.* subnet for the "internal" hosts. -- Ryan L. Watkins `silver moonbeams dance in fountains below shining citadels vamp@vamp.org surrounded by silver gates ascending silver stairs www.vamp.org eureka on angelic prayer wafts in and scents the air' -satb #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.oz.net!newshub.internex.net!losangeles01.news.internex.net!vger.punk.net!tmooney From: tmooney@vger.punk.net (Travis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1 MB versus 4 MB Simms for 040 Date: 25 Feb 1997 13:53:53 GMT Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5euqth$n5a@LosAngeles01.news.Internex.NET> References: <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: www.gobbo.org In article <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: >Ah, I want to upgrade my 040 machine >from 16 MB of RAM to 64 MB. >Is there any advantage, as far as >performance is concerned to which >type of memory I should use? Well, you get more memory in fewer slots :> if you have a non-turbo cube, to get to anything above 16mb, you'll have to use 4mb simms. there's really no other way to do it. travis #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 24 Feb 97 21:10:38 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-10-23.access.one.net In-reply-to: rworne@primenet.com's message of 24 Feb 1997 14:03:03 -0700 In article <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) writes: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >In article <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb>, >Integrated Wellness Systems wrote: >>How about adding memory and a faster hard drive? If you don't >>have the max amount of ram, you'll enjoy a big boost. This is the >>cheapest way to get max performance. > >True. However, depending on what you're doing there is a point >where adding more RAM doesn't help. Unless I'm doing heavy >OmniWebbing I'm pretty happy with 32MB on my cube (36MB on my >Dimension board). However, my life would likely be better if I >got off my butt and installed a faster disk. That's an interesting thought, I have an HP Surestore 2.1 Gig hooked up to my Turbocolor, and get mediocre performance at best (Under 1MB/Sec). This is nowhere near the specs for SCSI II or the SCSI I capabilities. Older drives such as the Fujitsu (512MB and 1.2GB) and the original Maxtor 5 1.4" fullheight monster that came in my cube all give similar performance, although there was a slight noticeable difference between the Maxor and the others. NeXT machines use async SCSI-I. The _max_ you could get with modern controllers would be around 3MB/s, but you don't get nearly that with NeXT's. [Hey, it's 8 year old hardware!] In practice, I've seen 1.7MB/s in artificial benchmark situations, but it's hard to get further than that. One thing that _is_ helpful about newer drives is the latency to get to a piece of data. A 8ms 5400RPM drive will probably be noticable in daily usage compared to a 13ms 3600RPM drive. After all, most accesses are short and widely seperated, so the seek+rotation time is the overriding performance concern. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 1 MB versus 4 MB Simms for 040 Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:31:56 GMT References: <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 19 In article <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: > >It turns out that I can get 1 MB >Simms for 3$ each, far less than >4 MB Simms. > >Is there any advantage, as far as >performance is concerned to which >type of memory I should use? > No. However, you only have 16 slots. 16 * 1 = 16. 16 * 4 = 64. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:33:42 GMT References: <19970225054101.AAA07009@ladder02.news.aol.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 21 In article <19970225054101.AAA07009@ladder02.news.aol.com>, WillAdams wrote: > >Has anyone put together a pair of icon tiffs for the Zip drive? I'm >considering doing a set... I'd be obliged at any thoughts or information >anyone could offer. > Well, Workspace has icons for removable SCSI disks. However, for some reason, it doesn't use them. Anyone know what heuristics are used to determine which icon to display? >William Adams Man--how many William Adamses are there in the NeXT community? :) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: lacsap@bait.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Plug and Play Crystal Audio CS4236 on Intel VS440FX motherboard Date: 25 Feb 1997 16:08:22 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ev2pm$1nv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: pascal@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: bait.media.mit.edu I have a pentium pro system - Intel motherboard vs440fx It has an on-board Soundblaster compatible chipset Crystal CS4236 The new EISA PnP driver detects the chipset and says it can not find a asuitable driver. My question is what do I have to do to massage the SB16PnP driver to be found by the PnP search at boot time? Anyone with experience in this area? I will post a summary (heck maybe even a FAQ:) deaf and mute, pasc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NumberNine Imagine 128 - 2 beta driver Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:43:24 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 45 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) abosse@midway.uchicago.edu,UseNet writes: >I have this driver running on a Dell PPro machine at 1280x1024 16bit, >75Hz >- but I'm a little disappointed at the speed. 32bit basically was too >slow >to be of any use and even 16bit is not very snappy. By speed I mean the >subjective impression of refresh "lag" one gets when moving windows. >Does anyone know of anything I could do in terms of tweaking the >settings >to improve this? I have exactly the same set up--same machine, same card. If you're not running the OmniGroup Pentium Pro driver, you'll always be dissatisfied with the video performance. Download the following and install it and you'll see DRAMATIC improvement in screen drawing: http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniPentiumProDriver/ They were very helpful in getting this set-up on our machines and it makes an ubelieveable difference. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ Center for Educational Tech. herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.nacamar.de!easynet-uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!news2.euro.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 09:00:28 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) Lines: 30 emclean@slip.net,UseNet writes: >I've heard that some Motorola NeXT machines can >be set up to run with two processors. Is this done >by seting two chips into the mother board? Can >this be done on a 040/25mhz board? I don't have an answer to this, but an extension to the question. The guy I bought my cube from says that he has two motherboards in his 25MHz '040 cube (he also has an ND so I am not confusing the two). What are the advantages to this? Do they cooperate or are they essentially two entirely separate computers in the same box? Do they share the system bus? Drives? -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:02:55 -0600 From: rberber@spin.com.mx Subject: Re: NS Audio driver for SB AWE32 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <856893454.23715@dejanews.com> Reply-To: rberber@spin.com.mx Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Feb 25 17:57:39 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 200.12.165.91 (orion35.spin.com.mx) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-2 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: rberber@spin.com.mx Lines: 18 Christian Jensen wrote: > > Has anyone seen or heard of an audio driver for NS 3.3 for a Creative > Labs SB AWE32 card? Use the Sound Blaster 16 driver, version 3.34 is the first one that worked fine with my AWE32. The latest beta driver is at http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2142.htmld/2142.html _________________________ Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!ralph.vnet.net!not-for-mail From: cmohr@vnet.net (bigsky) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 25 Feb 1997 19:57:34 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5evg7e$21f$1@ralph.vnet.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: jazzmin.vnet.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2685 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:135572 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87541 comp.sys.next.hardware:27459 Louis Johnson (ad651@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote: : ...with MMX you now have about 30 or 40 brand new instructions : for the CPU to act on directly related to multi media : processes. a short cut. thus, MMX is faster ONLY for : MMX apps!!! dont get an MMX CPU if you arent getting : MMX apps that are written to make use of the new instructions!!! It is *dead wrong* that MMX is faster only for MMX apps, though that is where the benefits are most pronounced. The MMX pentiums are at least 10-20% faster than comparably clocked non-MMX pentiums. This is because the differences between the two is not limited to the additional MMX instructions themselves, but to architectural improvements in the CPU, specifically: the L1 internal processor cache is doubled in size to 32k in MMX chips, compared to 16k in non-MMX chips; the branch prediction unit in MMX chips is improved, being adapted from that found on the Pentium Pro; the instruction pipeline is one level deeper on MMX chips than non-MMX chips, meaning that so long as the branch prediction guesses correctly, one more step of speculative execution can proceed in advance than with regular pentiums (i.e. it can do more work in advance without having wait for instructions to be pulled in from relatively slower memory). ...there are a couple of other improvements which don't come immediately to mind, but those are the most important. So, if you are going to spout off technical advice, take the trouble to inform yourself beyond incorrect inference from incomplete, superficial information. For more in-depth info on the MMX improvements, see http://sysdoc.pair.com (great site, by someone (not me) who has clearly done their homework and put in a lot of effort, complete with references to intel's site and info of his own and from other sources and benchmark testing). -- chris mohr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:33:09 -0600 From: rberber@spin.com.mx Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <856902251.29095@dejanews.com> Reply-To: rberber@spin.com.mx Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Feb 25 20:24:12 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 200.12.165.132 (verbum28.spin.com.mx) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-2 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: rberber@spin.com.mx Lines: 29 William Adams wrote: > > However, on the NeXT, it pops up with a rather plain (generic > SCSI?) icon. > > Has anyone put together a pair of icon tiffs for the Zip drive? I'm > considering doing a set... I'd be obliged at any thoughts or > information anyone could offer. > Have you loaded a DOS or Mac formatted zip disk? Instead of the scsi icon you get a variation of the optical disk icon (/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/optical.tiff), which looks a lot better. Now the big problem: the "removable hard disk icon" (i.e. /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/DOS_RHD.fs.tiff) gets used by Workspace because of the different file system, so we can't use this option. How does Workspace select a different icon for the optical? and how can we make it use a different icon for Zip disks? Sorry, I don't know the answers ... yet. --- Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: 25 Feb 1997 20:22:42 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5evhmi$7pf@news.next.com> References: Reply-To: mark_bessey@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bananajr.next.com David Evans writes > Well, Workspace has icons for removable SCSI disks. However, for some > reason, it doesn't use them. Anyone know what heuristics are used to > determine which icon to display? Trust me, you *really* don't want to know... -Mark -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can OpenStep be configured to serve PPP? Date: 25 Feb 1997 20:42:40 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25523 comp.sys.next.software:28255 comp.sys.next.hardware:27462 I have a OpenStep 4.1/Intel machine on my desk at my University. We have a T3 Network connection, so to say the least it is very fast. Unfortunately, the University has implemented a 90 minute time limit for their dialup IP service. So to get around it I am looking into establishing my own dialin service. Can anyone tell me if I can configure OpenStep to act as a PPP or Slip server for dialup? What tools/packages would I need? Is there any documentation on this? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cube hard drive bracket? Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:31:00 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 22 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) I am in the process of upgrading an '040 cube. I have removed the optical and the original Maxtor full height drive and I would like to install two third height scsi drives and one half height cd-rom internal (installing a floppy drive too would be great--they will all fit in the space). Question: Were there ever any brackets built for third height devices in a cube? Has anyone fashioned such a bracket? -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Rich Markle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EIDE/ATAPI w/ 3.2 (White) Install Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:10:48 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33136368.BDC@earthlink.net> Reply-To: rmarkle@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pool045.maxc.los-angeles.ca.us.dynip.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Is there any way I can use 3.2 User with a 486/DX4-120, EIDE, and ATAPI CDROM? I realize that EIDE support came with 3.3, but what I want to know is this: Can I trick the system into using the 3.3. drivers? If so how can I do it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know you folks are knowlegable enough to at least tell me if it's lost cause or not. Thanks in advance. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news From: Jason Lincoln Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:52:18 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corp. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <33127002.1580@us.oracle.com> References: <856902251.29095@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: reserved-dhcp-44-101.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) rberber@spin.com.mx wrote: > > William Adams wrote: > > > > However, on the NeXT, it pops up with a rather plain (generic > > SCSI?) icon. > > > > Has anyone put together a pair of icon tiffs for the Zip drive? I'm > > considering doing a set... I'd be obliged at any thoughts or > > information anyone could offer. > > > Have you loaded a DOS or Mac formatted zip disk? > > Instead of the scsi icon you get a variation of the optical disk icon > (/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/optical.tiff), which looks a lot > better. > > Now the big problem: the "removable hard disk icon" (i.e. > /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/DOS_RHD.fs.tiff) gets used by Workspace because > of the different file system, so we can't use this option. How does > Workspace select a different icon for the optical? and how can we make it > use a different icon for Zip disks? > > Sorry, I don't know the answers ... yet. > --- > Rene Berber > rberber@spin.com.mx > MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet I use the Jaz drive and I just use the dir.tiff and opendir.tiff files placed in the root directory of the Jaz disk. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!night.primate.wisc.edu!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting NS3.3 CD in single user mode Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:39:36 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5er9io$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5eges8$q63@hpax.cup.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) wrote: > I found out that you can't mount /tmp from a floppy when > booting from NS3.3's CD in single-user mode. NS3.2 works > fine. I'm pretty sure it's not possible, due to the fact that the image for the 3.3 CD includes a /tmp directory. If you're determined enough, you could always duplicate the CD except for the definition of /tmp... :-) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!night.primate.wisc.edu!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:36:36 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5er9d4$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> <5e9ma2$4lr@usenet.rpi.edu> <5eiejr$gqq@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25532 comp.sys.next.hardware:27467 don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) wrote: > The APAPI drive makes the drive masquerade as a SCSI device, so > it does work. I've managed to get CDPlayer.app to work, sort > of, by removing OmniCD from the system (it does not yet work, > though I think Andrew knows how to get it to at least work as > well as CDPlayer.app now, so perhaps a new version will be > forthcoming). I can play audio via the headphone jack, but not > through the sound card, since the volume control in CDPlayer.app > doesn't work at all and leaves the volume at zero. According to > an engineer at NeXT I spoke with, this is a known bug in the > ATAPI driver. > > Just thought you'd want to know about the above... Hmm. Does the drive actually show up as a SCSI device, at a specific SCSI ID? If so, I wonder if mCD.app would work with it. Presumably it should (though of course it would have the same problem with the volume, if that's a but in the driver). Thanks for the info. I can't test mCD on this (as my NS/Intel machine has a SCSI CD-ROM drive), but I'd be interested in what happens if anyone else tests tries mCD with it. (note to onlookers: I'm the author of mCD.app, such as it is...) (which has not been OpenStep-ified yet, so you probably can't compile it under NS-4.x). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!aplcen.apl.jhu.edu!night.primate.wisc.edu!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Question about swapping root drive on NextStation Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:54:08 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5erae0$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bc1fa1$36e738d0$01c0e1ce@bear> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27468 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25533 "Ken Gleason & Ann Ferguson" wrote: > I've got to swap a root hard disk for a larger one in a nextstation. > Currently, my plan is to copy the entire root partition to another > machine's NFS volume, swap the disks, reinstall Nextstep, and > then copy the files back, and reboot. The machine is the > authoritative source for NetInfo for the domain. > > Any forseen problems in doing it this way, or any suggestions? I wouldn't do it that way. The root partition includes like /private/dev, and those device-definitions probably won't copy well across an NFS connection... I have replaced the root hard disk on more than one NeXTstation (but never on any other NeXTSTEP platform). What I do is attach the new hard disk in some temporary setup (borrowing some external case to hold the new drive). I get it all formatted and partitioned the way I want. I then boot off the NeXTSTEP 3.3 CD-ROM, and if you answer the questions correctly you end up in a unix command shell. I then mount both the old and new hard disks (using the -n option), and then use the "ditto" command to copy the old hard disk to the new one. Luckily the ditto command doesn't even require a working /tmp, so this works well. Note that I have not yet tried this with the CD for NS-4.0 or NS-4.1 , but hopefully both of them should work the same. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!not-for-mail From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 26 Feb 1997 01:46:46 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5f04m6$ilr$3@news.xmission.com> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> <5e9ma2$4lr@usenet.rpi.edu> <5eiejr$gqq@news.xmission.com> <5er9d4$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> Reply-To: don@globalobjects.com NNTP-Posting-Host: brain.misckit.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Garance A Drosehn wrote: > Hmm. Does the drive actually show up as a SCSI device, at a > specific SCSI ID? If so, I wonder if mCD.app would work with > it. Presumably it should (though of course it would have the > same problem with the volume, if that's a but in the driver). Yes and no. It does get accessed as a SCSI device; in my case, the device is /dev/rsd1h. However, apparently the SCSI sense stuff doesn't work right, so you can't tell that it is a CD drive there. The way CDPlayer.app gets around this is that it gets the device from /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device, which is created when you insert an audio CD. The file is a single line, no whitespace, and just the name of the device you should open. You just blindly "trust" that it is right and then send the commands after that, I guess. I hope NeXT gets the bugs worked out of the ATAPI support; my drive is one of the ones where you can't adjust the volume of playback, so I can't play it out my PC's speakers; I have to use the headphones and the manual thumbwheel. :-( Obviously the whole setup seems a bit of a hack and is a little less clean than I'd like to see--it would be nice if the ATAPI driver went all the way in making the drives appear to be SCSI. I guess that now that there are more resources available this might be a possibility... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com My home page #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!cdouty From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:40:40 GMT Lines: 38 Sender: cdouty@netcom6.netcom.com In article <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Robert Worne wrote: >dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >That's an interesting thought, I have an HP Surestore 2.1 Gig hooked up >to my Turbocolor, and get mediocre performance at best (Under 1MB/Sec). > >This is nowhere near the specs for SCSI II or the SCSI I capabilities. >Older drives such as the Fujitsu (512MB and 1.2GB) and the original Maxtor >5 1.4" fullheight monster that came in my cube all give similar performance, >although there was a slight noticeable difference between the Maxor and the >others. Futz around (that's a technical term, ya' know) with tunefs. I got a Seagate Elite 3 for my cube and decided to see if I could tune it for decent performance since it ought to be the last drive I attach to the old beast. (As a sidelight, my old Hitachi 1.2GB and seagate 1GB were awfully slow compared to the Elite 3. I get ~1.2MB/s writes with the Elite and ~600kB/s with the others.) Start with the correct disktab. I'm not convinced that "disk" et al. create a terribly good layout. Since the Seagate is a 2+GB drive I had to write my own disktab. I then wrote a short script looping through various tunefs parameters and testing with iozone. I wish I had a good random access test program, since iozone is all sequential access. Oh well. I found that setting rotdelay correctly was significant. Testing maxbpg may be useful on drives/partitions used for a few large files, like a swap drive. I wish I understood FFS a little better. Many thanks to Scott Hess for posting his drive tuning experiences a few months ago. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:08:57 GMT References: <5evhmi$7pf@news.next.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <5evhmi$7pf@news.next.com>, Mark Bessey wrote: >David Evans writes >> Well, Workspace has icons for removable SCSI disks. However, for some >> reason, it doesn't use them. Anyone know what heuristics are used to >> determine which icon to display? > >Trust me, you *really* don't want to know... > Come on, Mark, we do, we do! -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: 26 Feb 1997 08:15:15 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 32 Message-ID: <19970226081501.DAA14968@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <856902251.29095@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Yes, I have loaded a Mac Zip disk--one which was damaged to begin with (had to repair it in my wife's Mac....) so no joy there. Haven't bothered to try a PC disk (except to reformat it :/) since I'm running NS 3.1 without a (needed?) patch for larger FAT file systems. Actually, there are really cool floppy disk icons in /usr/filesystems? for DOS, Mac and NeXT? floppies, but these don't seem to be used consistently on my system. However, I acquired this second-hand with 2.1 and some custom configuration on it (Wile E. Coyote logintiff for example), so it may be some such weirdness as this. I don't remember seeing anything on this in the FAQ, but then again, I haven't found the time/courage to successfully work with the logintiff to get that set straight (the Coyote tiff didn't come over when I switched system disks, so now I just have a flat white login panel :( ) I'd be very glad of any information on how disk icons are handled--it may only get filed until I've got a full system backup and the time to experiment, but I would appreciate it. BTW - I was a bit cavalier in mentioning the above web page--the title was: Radical System Solutions: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP, and here's the URL for their home page: http://www.radical.com/index.html. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!200.220.64.7!news.unisys.com.br!news.embratel.net.br!raptor.centroin.com.br!usenet From: "Lib Informática Ltda." Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard Date: 26 Feb 1997 06:07:16 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <01bc23a5$18390fa0$0100007f@lib-info-01> NNTP-Posting-Host: du50.centroin.com.br Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:23889 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:65638 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:25268 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:17746 comp.sys.next.hardware:27473 CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0ZXIgbWFya2V0IGlzIGEgbGFyZ2UgbWFya2V0IHdoZXJlIGFs bW9zdCBhbGwgcHJvZHVjdHMgY2FuIGJlIHNvbGQhICAgRm9yIG1hbnkgeWVhcnMsIGZvcmVpZ24g Y29tcGFuaWVzIGluIEJyYXppbCBjb3VsZCBub3Qgc2VsbCB0aGVpciBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgc2Vy dmljZXMgd2hlcmUgYSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcGFueSB3b3Jrcy4gICBUaGlzIGJyb3VnaHQgcmFw aWQgZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgZWFybHksIGJ1dCBzdGFnbmF0aW9uIGFmdGVyd2FyZHMhICAgV29yc3Qs IGEgaGlnaGVyIHByaWNlISEhICAgTm93LCB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIGNvbXB1dGVyIG1hcmtldCBp cyBvcGVuIHRvIGFsbCBmb3JlaWduIGluZHVzdHJ5LiAgIEFuZCBwcmljZSBpcyBub3QgYSBwcm9i bGVtLi4uDQoNCglTbywgd2h5IGRvZXNuJ3QgeW91ciBjb21wYW55IHRyeT8NCg0KCVdlIHJlcHJl c2VudCBzZXJ2aWNlcywgc29mdHdhcmUsIGFuZCBoYXJkd2FyZSBmcm9tIGZvcmVpZ24gY29tcGFu aWVzIGRvaW5nIGJ1c2luZXNzIGluIEJyYXppbC4gICBXZSBhcmUgbG9va2luZyBmb3IgcGFydG5l cnMgd2hvIGludGVuZCB0byBlbnRlciB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIG1hcmtldCB3aXRoIHRoZWlyIHBy b2R1Y3RzL3NlcnZpY2VzLg0KDQoJQW55d2F5LCBpZiB0aGlzIHByb3Bvc2FsIGludGVyZXN0cyB5 b3UsIHBsZWFzZSBlLW1haWwgbWUgLSBMaWIuSW5mb0BlbXByZXNhLmNvbS5iciAtIHdpdGggYW4g b3V0bGluZSBvZiB5b3VyIHByb2R1Y3RzIGFuZC9vciBzZXJ2aWNlcyB0byBsZXQgdXMgZXZhbHVh dGUgaWYgdGhleSBjb3VsZCBiZSBzb2xkIGRvd24gaGVyZSBpbiBCcmF6aWwuDQoNCg0KCVRoYW5r IHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBhdHRlbnRpb24uDQoNClAuUy46IEkgZG8gbWFuYWdlIGEgMSwwMDAgbWVt YmVyIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCBvbiBXaW5kb3dzICc5NSBzb2Z0d2FyZSB3aGVyZSBJIHdyaXRlIGFi b3V0IHRoZSBuZXcgcHJvZHVjdHMgYW5kIHJlbGVhc2VzLg0KDQoNCg0KQ2FybG9zIEJvcmdhcnRo DQpMaWIgSW5mb3Jt4XRpY2EgTHRkYS4NClJpbyBkZSBKYW5laXJvICAtICBCcmFzaWw= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!xfer.kren.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: "Á¤ÁøÇõ" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does OPENSTEP 4.1 support Think Pad 560? Date: 26 Feb 1997 09:27:38 GMT Organization: ¼­¿ï´ë ÄÄÇ»ÅÍ°øÇаú Lines: 8 Message-ID: <01bc23c7$6be58800$3fc07ea8@gong.snu.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.192.63 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 NS 3.3 supported TP 560. So I thought OS 4.1 would support it, and I seeked display driver. But I couldn't find it. Does OS 4.1 support TP 560 and TP 760ED? Thanks. Jinhyeok Jeong. salbang@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://gong.snu.ac.kr/~salbang #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!rao From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Install help needed... Date: 26 Feb 1997 14:38:52 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5f1hts$mas@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: sysmod.egr.uh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I am trying to install Openstep for Mach 4.0 on a Pentium 166 with ASUS motherboard, Adaptec 2940 UW, a Quantum 2.1G hard drive and a Goldstar 8X EIDE CDROM. I have installed Nextstep on Intel before but that was an all SCSI set up. My problem is how do I install from the EIDE CDROM. I searched NextAnswers but I am still stumped. During the boot process, I am asked for the SCSI conrtoller to which the CDROM is attached. I expected to see EIDE/ATAPI as an option using the two driver disks that came with OS 4.0 but apparently that is not the case. Do I have to download some boot floppyimage from NextAnswers? I understand that the ATAPI driver makes the CDROM appear like a SCSI drive, but what device driver do I use? Thank you very much for this urgently needed help. Jagannatha -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bifrostworks link doesn't work... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:57:33 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 16 Message-ID: <33145CF4.58C9@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.102 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: "Noah M. Daniels" Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27476 comp.sys.next.programmer:23113 comp.sys.next.software:28267 Noah M. Daniels wrote: >However, the bifrostworks link doesn't work... the domain does not > exist. I also tried bitfrostworks.com, in case you made a typo, but that > didn't work either. Any ideas? http://www.bifrostworks.com/ Now, They work. Please vist their web-site. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!newsgate.cistron.nl!wirehub!server1.adam.ixe.net!news2.euro.net!fido.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.cc.uic.edu!usenet From: "B. Alexander King III" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't format optical disk Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:44:09 -0600 Organization: Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Chicago Message-ID: <33145A49.4113@uic.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nscp200.phy.uic.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/777) CC: aking@uic.edu Lines: 6 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25543 comp.sys.next.misc:25218 comp.sys.next.hardware:27477 I have a NeXT cube with a 25MHz 68040 running NeXTStep 3.0. I also have two blank 256Mb optical disks. Unfortunately, I am unable to initialize them from the Workspace Manager's Disk menu. The optical drive won't even recognize them (it just spits them back out). What could be wrong? Thanks in advance. bak #################################################################### From: "Samuel " Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Questions about Libretto Date: 26 Feb 1997 16:20:40 GMT Organization: ¤½¥q¦WºÙ¥¼ª Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bc2400$d1bc26a0$890d55ca@kwaisamu.asiaonline.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.85.13.137 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news2.hkt.net!news.hkt.net!news.asiaonline.net!news I am now considering to buy a mini notebook Toshiba Libretto 20/30/50 but still have some questions: Can Toshiba Libretto be ungraded? How? I just want to use it as a typing machine......which model /config should I buy? Is there any problems in replaceing JWin95 with EWin95? Looking for the reply! Thanks! Samuel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!xfer.kren.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] SyQuest's SyJet1.5GB and NEXTSTEP Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:49:07 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 19 Message-ID: <33145AFC.2279@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.102 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, I interesting SyQuest's SyJet1.5GB. http://www.syquest.com/syquest/syjetmain.htm The SyJet1.5GB has more fast and capability than iomega's Jaz. But I don' know about safety and confidence of SyJet1.5GB. Also I have not heard anyone who is uing it on NEXTSTEP. Has anyone know test result of SyJet1.5GB on NEXTSTEP? Thanks, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cube internal floppy connector? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:08:14 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 24 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) The '040 cube motherboard has three ribbon cable connectors. One is scsi (the largest), another is for the optical (the smallest). Is the intermediate sized one the internal connector for a floppy drive or is the floppy drive a scsi device? I've seen references to external Next floppy drives. Also, is the internal scsi bus SCSI-2? Thanks. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 01:38:15 -0500 Subject: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Cc: omniweb-l@omnigroup.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Lines: 90 Greetings all! I have come to ask your advice, bascically because I keep arguing both sides of the issue and can't figure out which way to go. Here's the situation: I've got a mono non-turbo slab that can handle no more than 32ram. I'd really like to be able to see color. I spend 75% of my time on the machine surfing the 'net (right now with imaging turned off due to my low ram giving the processor and the fact that I can't see color). The other 25% is writing papers. PROBLEMS WITH MY CURRENT SETUP: maxed out RAM slow processor no color serial port at 38400 (57600 only if I am daring) ADVANTAGES: I know the system, it behaves very well, and I can afford it So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. Problem is I know nothing about PCs and wouldn't know where to begin putting an NS-capable machine together. Also, if I got an Intel machine I'd want a 17" monitor, good graphics, and improve my serial port speed (can this be done? what speeds can I get with it higher than 57600? I don't even know what controls that). PROBLEMS WITH GETTING AN INTEL: don't have the $$ don't have the know-how don't know how to put together a system that will work as well as my beloved NeXT ADVANTAGES: long-term solution can play those cool DOS/Win games (this may also be a drawback!) could get better serial port speed (???is this true???) I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. PROBLEMS WITH GETTING A NEW NeXT don't have the $$ (are we noticing a trend? ;-) would the 33MHz really be that much better than the 25MHz I have now considering it also has to render color? would loading the machine chock-full of RAM balance out the increased processor load for color/make graphics rendering (OmniWeb) better? I'm not sure what RAM would do and what it would be held back by the processor speed more money into a wonderful, but outdated, machine ADVANTAGES: more RAM is always better (I could get 300% more RAM) all my apps, etc would run on it don't have to deal with putting together some Frankenstein computer CFO: Is is better to put a smaller amount of money into a shorter-time solution or a larger amount of money into a long-term solution that will bring on a great deal of headaches? THOUGHT: I read in Computer Shopper that every $1000 spent on a new computer gives you one year from obscurity (ie a computer you buy today for $2000 will be outdated in 2 years, $3000 in 3 years). Given that I have another year in school, perhaps it would be better to get the new NeXT now and once I get out and get a job start saving for an Intel (by which time Rhapsody will be shipping version 1.0! ) For clarification: I would be running NS 3.3 on whatever I bought if I buy anything. Any thoughts appreciated. Respond via email if you'd prefer. Thanks TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702260411.XAA04646@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 23:11:10 -0500 Subject: Experiences with APC or Tripplite UPS ??? Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html X-Comment: Send me your NeXTStep/OpenStep URL! Lines: 37 Greetings all! Having just come from http://www.benatong.com/powerguardianinfo.html I have been checking out the supported "Smart" UPS systems for the PowerGuardian software. There are 3 companies which are hotlinked to that page: APC, TrippLite, and Best. APC's supported model I found for $245 in Computer Shopper. TrippLite has a supported model for $179. The supported models for "Best" are $500+, so they are officially out of contention. I am wondering if anyone out there has experience with APC's "Smart-UPS Net 450" (not the Smart-UPS v/s) or TrippLite's "OMNISMART 280". (Or any experience with either company's UPS). I'm a UPS-newbie, so I don't know much about what to look for. Right now all I know is that one is a lot cheaper than the other, but I know the APC has user-replaceable batteries, while I don't know that about TrippLite one way or the other. Any info welcome. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) Use `luomat@peak.org' for any email-contact #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!usenet From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't format optical disk Date: 26 Feb 1997 18:20:30 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 92 Message-ID: <5f1ute$p3f@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <33145A49.4113@uic.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: celegans.sns.cs.ubc.ca In article <33145A49.4113@uic.edu> "B. Alexander King III" writes: > I have a NeXT cube with a 25MHz 68040 running NeXTStep 3.0. I also have > two blank 256Mb optical disks. Unfortunately, I am unable to initialize > them from the Workspace Manager's Disk menu. The optical drive won't > even recognize them (it just spits them back out). What could be > wrong? Thanks in advance. > bak This seems to inevitably happen to OD drives. I've found two culprits: First, the drive's laser pickup lens could be covered in dust. This is fairly easy to clean with an discontinued optional kit from NeXT that I've never managed to find. You can also open the drive and clean it with a cotton swab, but the procedure is a bit complicated (see below). The other culprit I've found is that the drive's calibration seems to vary with temperature. I've had the same failures as you've described when I first insert a "cold" disk, but once it has been in drive for 30 minutes or so, it works fine. You can't use the Workspace Manager to insert the drive, because it spits it out. You need to mount it by hand (from a shell, probably as root). This bypasses the Workspace Manager's "automounting" program. mount /dev/od0a /MyDisk A panel will then pop up asking you to insert the disk. Insert it. If it is uninitialized, the mount may fail, but it shouldn't spit it out. To unmount it after 30 minutes or so, do umount /dev/od0a This will NOT spit it out. To spit it out, unmount it first, and then do: /usr/etc/disk -e /dev/rod0a At this point you can reinsert it and the Workspace Manager will grab it. Make sure you don't mix the two methods of dealing with removable disk (e.g. don't 'umount' a disk that the WM has automounted or you'll get it confused. Here's the OD cleaning instructions: ------------------------------ If you're not queasy with hardware, you could try to clean your OD. This cured all my problems with it. The laser focussing lens gets covered in dust and eventually has trouble reading the OD. I understand that there was an OD drive cleaning kit from NeXT, but I don't have it, so here's how I cleaned my drive: 0. Use static electricity precautions: Make sure you, the drive and your workspace are grounded. 1. Remove the OD from the drive bay. 2. Open the top of the drive (with the labels on it) by removing the 4 screws on top. The top should flip back on a "hinge" made of two screws. 3. At the back near the "hinge" on the left are two thin ribbon cables that plug into white connectors, a long one and a short one. You need to disconnect this so you can remove the bottom of the drive (where the laser assembly is). These are disconnected by loosening the white connector shells a few millimeters (don't remove the white shell entirely; it'll break). Once they are loosened a bit, the ribbon cables will simply slide out of the white shells. The best way to loosen them is from the back (you'll need to remove the two "hinge" screws on the side to get access to the back of the white connectors). Use a small screwdriver to pry the white shell off slightly. It should move fairly easily and it should be obvious when to stop (there are little "hooks" to prevent the white shell from coming all the way off). Once the shell is loosened, just pull out the ribbon cables. 4. Close the top and turn the drive over and remove the 4 screws on the bottom (there may also be 2 screws at the front holding the cover on if you have a newer model). 5. Lift the bottom cover gently from the front of the drive a half inch or so. Inside, there are two beige connectors by the left side near the front; one with 3 wires connected to the main chassis part of the drive, and one with several wires connected to the bottom of the drive. Disconnect both these connectors by pulling and slightly wiggling them back and forth laterally (in the same plane as the row of wires). 6. The bottom cover should come free now. Gently lift it off and turn it over. 7. The laser lens should be obvious: it's the round bit of glass lens. Dusty, huh? 8. Clean the lens GENTLY with a non-abrasive lens cloth (I just used a Q-Tip). Don't use a solvent or any kind of liquid. 9. Reverse the above process to reassemble the drive. Things to be careful of: There is a black wire running along the back-right of the bottom cover that may need to be coaxed into the chassis before the bottom cover will seat nicely down. And make sure you insert the ribbon cables all the way into the white shell before pushing it closed (that takes a bit of coaxing too). Disclaimer: I don't guarantee that this will work and I'm in no way responsible for any consequences of following these instructions. All I claim is that the above procedure fixed *my* drive. You're mileage may vary. :-) -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!en.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!208.195.156.10!news.walltech.com!HSNX.wco.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "freezing" Dell OptiplexGXPro w/NS 3.3...any ideas? Date: 26 Feb 1997 10:18:31 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 26 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5f1upn$eb@mpaque.mpaque> References: Reply-To: mpaque@wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: volans102.wco.com In article abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) writes: > I'm hoping someone can help me with my problem..I'm consistently getting > freezes on a PPro machine running NS 3.3 + user patch. [munch] > Beep > Sound Blaster 16 at IRQ 5; DMA 1 5; ports 0x0220-0x0233 > 0x330-0x331 0x388-0x389 Try removing either Beep or the Sound Blaster driver. You should only have one of these installed at a time. > Omni Pentium Pro Driver This can give problems with some motherboards and peripheral combinations. While the speedup is great, please bear in mind that not all PC motherboard and peripheral vendors design or test for the 'pedal to the metal' performance case. That is, the driver enables PCI transfers that some hardware would prefer you didn't use :-). Good luck. PC hardware can be problematic at best. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: 26 Feb 1997 19:06:43 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 14 Message-ID: <19970226190601.OAA28540@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <33127002.1580@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Yes, I'm planning on placing the tiffs in the root directory so that they'll display--I was just checking to see if anyone had done this yet. Have you made custom ones for your Jaz drive? I've started on my set for the Zip drive, and once they're done, will make them available. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!judith.state.net!news.is.com!usenet From: msb@plexare.com (Michael S. Barthelemy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does anyone have... Date: 25 Feb 1997 21:25:43 GMT Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5evlcn$cib@medusa.is.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.is.com I'm looking for the old post which had hardware comparisons by compiling BackSpace. If someone could forward it to me I would appreciate it. I want to see how my new SCSI subsystem affects my numbers. I just got a DPT PM3334UW with a 32MB cache and 2 Segate ST32171W's which I have RAID-0ed together - which works very nicely with OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1 DrivePerformance.app scores on first run are just over 4MB/second for both read and write. Mike Barthelemy msb@plexare.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!roper.uwyo.edu!roper.uwyo.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can OpenStep be configured to serve PPP? Message-ID: <1997Feb26.104636.26294@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 26 Feb 97 10:46:36 MST References: <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> Distribution: world Nntp-Posting-Host: panoramix.uwyo.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Cc: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Lines: 17 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25546 comp.sys.next.software:28272 comp.sys.next.hardware:27487 In <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: > Can anyone tell me if I can configure OpenStep to act as a PPP or Slip server for dialup? > What tools/packages would I need? Is there any documentation on this? > The PPP package that ships with Openstep 4.1 works just fine... -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: demo Subject: Re: "freezing" Dell OptiplexGXPro w/NS 3.3...solved. X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nsrlab1.uchicago.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3314B61B.6419@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Reply-To: demo@midway.uchicago.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <5f1upn$eb@mpaque.mpaque> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:16:09 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Lines: 27 Mike Paquette wrote: > > In article abosse@midway.uchicago.edu > (arno bosse) writes: > > I'm hoping someone can help me with my problem..I'm consistently getting > > freezes on a PPro machine running NS 3.3 + user patch. > [munch] > > Beep > > Sound Blaster 16 at IRQ 5; DMA 1 5; ports 0x0220-0x0233 > > 0x330-0x331 0x388-0x389 > > Try removing either Beep or the Sound Blaster driver. You should only have > one of these installed at a time. Thanks Mike. This did the trick. With the SB 3.32 driver removed (the 3.34 beta didn't produce any sound at all) I can now get a NX factor of 5.4 with 32 bit colour @ 1152x768. Excellent. At present using only the Beep driver works well. Next I'll try only using the SoundBlaster driver. Now, if only I could find a driver for the PCI 3COM Etherlink III...I guess it will be released eventually, since this is the standard option for high-end Dells. Arno Bosse Univ. of Chicago #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i528.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXTWorld Expo Video Date: 26 Feb 1997 23:20:27 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i528.oro.net From what I have heard, there is a video tape out there about the 1st NeXTWorld Expo with Steve Jobs presenting the NeXT product. Anyone have one for sale. Tom #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Ireland.EU.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!gatech!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!usenet From: mack Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experiences with APC or Tripplite UPS ??? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:59:45 -0500 Organization: MacroMolecular Structure Group, B127 LSRC, Duke University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3314A441.41C6@xray.duke.edu> References: <199702260411.XAA04646@peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: elvis.xray.duke.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP6) Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > I am wondering if anyone out there has experience with APC's I was in the position of buying a whole lot of UPS's a while ago. Since I didn't want to send them back to the factory when they failed after their warantee period, I asked APC if I could get a service manual for the machine. They told me that they wouldn't sell me one as they didn't want our service technician (who has 30yrs of experience) to get a (electric) shock on opening up the cover. I decided not to buy anything from APC. Joe -- Joseph Mack mailto:mack@xray.duke.edu (919)-613-8890 SysAdmin Xray Lab FAX-(919)-684-8885 MacroMolecular Structure Group, Duke University, Durham NC, 27710 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:07:20 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: po6.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-Feb-97 A better NeXTStation or an .. by Timothy J Luoma@peak.org > CFO: Is is better to put a smaller amount of money into a > shorter-time solution or a larger amount of money into a > long-term solution that will bring on a great deal of > headaches? > > THOUGHT: I read in Computer Shopper that every $1000 spent on a new > computer gives you one year from obscurity (ie a computer you > buy today for $2000 will be outdated in 2 years, $3000 in 3 > years). Given that I have another year in school, perhaps it > would be better to get the new NeXT now and once I get out > and get a job start saving for an Intel (by which time > Rhapsody will be shipping version 1.0! ) A third alternative would be to wait for a year or so until (a) Rhapsody is available on Mac PPC hardware, and (b) until Mac PPC hardware is shipping with 500+ MHz Exponential CPU's. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.170.183.55!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!purdue!haven.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!usenet From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:29:40 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3314AB03.23FB@wam.umd.edu> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Reply-To: dutky@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: annex12-45.dial.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Timothy J Luoma wrote: > I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would > give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and > color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. > The color-turbo is a steal at $750 if the price includes the 21" color monitor. If you wanted to get a modern machine (Mac or Intel) with a 21" color monitor you would have to pay at least $1000 JUST FOR THE MONITOR. If you can scrape together the $750 needed to buy the color-turbo it should be able to keep you happy until you graduate. Further, you might be able to use the color monitor on whatever system you buy afterwards, provided that you get a sophisticated enough display adapter and can find an apropriate cable. for the simple price comparison: A low end intel box can be had from hole-in-the-wall places for about $600 with a crappy little monitor. Alegedly 21" monitors can be had for as little as $900 if you don't mind what brand you get. All told you will spend twice as much on an intel box before you even get software (have you seen what the cost of NS4.1 is?). The only REAL advantages to the intel box are: 2x processor speedup, and larger available software base. Ballance this with the fact that you won't have your intel box up and running for a few days (this is a conservative estimate given that you don't know anything about intel hardware and software configuration) and I think the NeXTStation Color-Turbo is a good deal. -Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!clas.ufl.edu!hee.phys.ufl.edu!ddr From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: My black mouse has died.... Date: 27 Feb 1997 00:30:53 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5f2kjt$6ha@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hee.phys.ufl.edu I have had to paint a "white" mouse black, now I need to wire the connector. I got a mini din but don't know the conversion from a DB-9 (IBM style serial) to the 8 pin din. Can anyone help? Thanks, Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Department, University of Florida --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc23a5$18390fa0$0100007f@lib-info-01> Date: 26 Feb 1997 22:17:20 GMT Control: cancel <01bc23a5$18390fa0$0100007f@lib-info-01> Message-ID: Sender: "Lib Informática Ltda." X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970226.20. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970226.20.html for complete report. Original Subject: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!pbrown From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 27 Feb 1997 01:28:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> <3314AB03.23FB@wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ashkhabad.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.8.3 (BETA) UNIX) Timothy J Luoma wrote: > I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would > give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and > color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. I made the jump from 25MHz x 20Mb to 33MHz x 128Mb. The 128Mb machine is like a 1950's era American car. You can floor it, hear the engine roar, but it just doesn't go as fast as a Hyundai with Rodney King at the wheel... But, it's solid, smooth, looks cool, and just cruises comfortably along. (It's also somewhat hard to find parts...) My machine (mono, mind you) swaps at most once or twice a day, and I've got the bad habit of leaving lots of apps open. Most casual computer users (eg., people who just use the computers for entertainment and word processing as opposed to people who are running 50Mb autocad files or compiling large programs or intensive computations) have FAR more power than they will ever need. My feeling is that many modern programmers are sloppy just because the machines are fast enough that they can get away with it. For the increase in raw power from Apple II or IBM-PC (8086) days, the actual increase in performance hasn't kept pace. When I have big computations, I refer them to the SparcServer in the basement anyway. (Half a gig of RAM and 4 sparc 20's in a big box but no style...) Paul #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!decoy.uoregon.edu!joe From: joe@decoy.uoregon.edu (Joe St Sauver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Setting Serial B to 19200/8/N/1 under NS3.3 on an '040? Date: 27 Feb 1997 01:36:43 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5f2ofb$ptc@pith.uoregon.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: decoy.uoregon.edu I've been working with a user who has a black '040 NeXT running 3.3. We were able to construct a suitable cable and to successfully modify the /etc/gettytab and /etc/ttys so as to connect at 9600 7-E-1, but we have so far been unable to successfully select suitable /etc/gettytab arguments for 19200 8-N-1. We're currently trying: default:\ :im=\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:\ :er=\177:kl=^U:in=^C:lm=\r\n%h login\72 :ap:p8:sp#19200: D19200:ap:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:sp#19200: and ttydb "/usr/etc/getty D19200" dialup on where we'd hoped the ap ("any parity") and p8 ("pass eight bit") would do the trick. We've also experimented with zp ("zero parity"), all to no avail. Are we missing something obvious? Is this even possible? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe St Sauver (joe@oregon.uoregon.edu) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: cube internal floppy connector? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:20:12 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 21 In article , David Herren wrote: >The '040 cube motherboard has three ribbon cable connectors. One is >scsi (the largest), another is for the optical (the smallest). Is the >intermediate sized one the internal connector for a floppy drive or is >the floppy drive a scsi device? I've seen references to external Next >floppy drives. > It is indeed the connector for the floppy drive. It's a weird one, though. >Also, is the internal scsi bus SCSI-2? > No, SCSI-I. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 26 Feb 97 17:54:02 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 156 Message-ID: References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-3-8.access.one.net In-reply-to: Timothy J Luoma's message of Wed, 26 Feb 97 01:38:15 -0500 In article <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org>, Timothy J Luoma writes: So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. Problem is I know nothing about PCs and wouldn't know where to begin putting an NS-capable machine together. Also, if I got an Intel machine I'd want a 17" monitor, good graphics, and improve my serial port speed (can this be done? what speeds can I get with it higher than 57600? I don't even know what controls that). You can get pretty high, but with a baseline system, it's more of a NeXT driver problem than a hardware problem. The driver just doesn't want to let you fly! You can put in a card which multiplies the speed the system tells it, so you could do 57600x4, for instance. Not sure if it's worth it. PROBLEMS WITH GETTING AN INTEL: don't have the $$ don't have the know-how don't know how to put together a system that will work as well as my beloved NeXT I recently (October) put together a system with: $720 ViewSonic 17PS monitor $462 Seagate ST32155N (2G, 9ms, Ultra-SCSI) $440 * 64M EDO RAM (2x32M simms, leaving 2 slots open) $266 * Retail Matrox Millenium w/4M $235 * Boxed Pentium-133 $182 * ASUS P/I-XP55T2P4 motherboard w/512k cache $110 InWin ATX minitower $ 68 ASUS SC200 NCR 810 SCSI card (Fast-10 SCSI) $ 64 Microsoft ergo keyboard $ 30 Microsoft PS/2 Mouse (with the curve) $ 26 TEAC floppy The starred items have fallen in price since my purchase, memory and CPU quite significantly. These items were purchased from a combination of Computability (monitor, www.computability.com), ESC (CPU,ram,motherboard,case, www.esc-ca.com), and cantek (everything else, www.cantek.com/cantek/). All told it was something like $2700, with shipping. It's probably $200-$300 cheaper, now. All that said - this system is _clearly_ head and shoulders above my mono turbo slab. Back in 1994, I purchased a really expensive i486 machine for NeXTstep, and it sucked rocks, even after I upgraded to a 160Mhz 486. The above machine is faster than my i486 in many different ways - the CPU is faster, the CPU-memory subsystem is faster, the PCI local bus is faster than the VLB was. Overall, it feels _much_ faster than the plain CPU improvement led me to believe. Running in glorious 32-bit color at 11??x8?? it blows the doors off my mono turbo. Running in acceptable 16-bit color, it can to 1600x1200, which is amazing to see (if a bit overwhelming on a 17" monitor). It was easy to put together (ESC put all their parts together for me), and doesn't look particularily like a frankenstein inside. No particular problems getting NeXTSTEP installed on it (I used my slab to make a driver disk with the NCR and Matrox drivers on it). [Keep in mind that I spent too much time researching these parts beforehand in the interests of making sure almost everything is individually upgradable and compatible. I didn't want to spend weeks with a half-working system this time around :-).] I'd do it again in a heartbeat. If you want all the above delivered pre-assembled, check out www.tdl.com/~netex/. You'll pay a small (%10 or so) premium for this, though. If I had to do it all over again, I'd have scrounged up the money and bought a PPro system a couple months earlier than I actually bought, when RAM was cheaper and PPros were substantially cheaper. But, alas, I waffled (hey, I was moving at the time). I would consider a PPro150 at this time, but I'm not sure I'd buy it (the upgrade future is somewhat vague for the current PPro line). I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. PROBLEMS WITH GETTING A NEW NeXT don't have the $$ (are we noticing a trend? ;-) would the 33MHz really be that much better than the 25MHz I have now considering it also has to render color? IMHO, absolutely not. It's really going to depend on how much you like color. The overall system will feel slower, though it shouldn't be unreasonable. Might consider a 33Mhz mono, which still allows for the bigger memory, but doesn't pay the color tax. would loading the machine chock-full of RAM balance out the increased processor load for color/make graphics rendering (OmniWeb) better? I'm not sure what RAM would do and what it would be held back by the processor speed It would certainly improve things because you wouldn't be swapping as much. Those extra 14 bits of color can be painful in that way. THOUGHT: I read in Computer Shopper that every $1000 spent on a new computer gives you one year from obscurity (ie a computer you buy today for $2000 will be outdated in 2 years, $3000 in 3 years). That's blather. The obsolescence horizon is a curve. There's a lower bound (a $1000 computer is _already_ outdated), and after you get past about $3000, every extra year costs you more like double, rather than $1000. IMHO, the difference between a $5k system and a $3k system is something like 6-8 months, the difference between a $3k and $2k system is probably a year or so, and the difference between a $1500 and $2k system is probably a year or so. You're better off to pick a price-point and stick with it. With the above, I've staked out the $2500 price-point. I expect to pop in upgrades every 6 to 12 months, with the upgrades chosen based on whether you could build a new $2500 system using them. [Actually, I'm planning to have two systems leapfroggin each other every six months.] The important thing about going with a price-point is that it helps keep you from chasing useless extras. Keep in mind that today's $3k computer will probably only cost $2k in six months. If you make certain that your peripherals are robust in the face of upgrades (this is where places like Gateway cut the corners!), you can get away with being pretty piecemeal. Emphasis on the peripherals! Saving money on your peripherals is a short path to hell. You're better off spending money on peripherals that you can keep for awhile rather than spending it on a faster CPU. In six months it will be cheap to upgrade your motherboard and CPU to faster units, but quality disk drives and monitors will cost more or less the same as they do today. OTOH, if you plan to purchase the system and ride it into the ground, then make sure you plan your exit strategy ahead of time. Given that I have another year in school, perhaps it would be better to get the new NeXT now and once I get out and get a job start saving for an Intel (by which time Rhapsody will be shipping version 1.0! ) In this case, you might want to wait. The big question is whether you'll be able to actually _use_ the system when you graduate. It may be that you'll be using your personal machines _drastically_ less once you graduate. Not only because you might (or might not) spend more time somewhere other than where your machine is, but also because you'll be doing many things you currently do on your machine on machines at the office. [I remember popping years of savings on a new computer the year I graduated from high school. I probably got my money's worth, but I didn't use it _nearly_ as much when I went to college. Life changes are not good times to make big purchases :-).] Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.flint.umich.edu!news.gmi.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 27 Feb 1997 03:09:23 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 47 Sender: -no- @pm132-28.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm132-28.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: luomat@peak.org In <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > > So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. Problem is > I know nothing about PCs and wouldn't know where to begin putting > an NS-capable machine together. Also, if I got an Intel machine I'd > want a 17" monitor, good graphics, and improve my serial port speed > (can this be done? what speeds can I get with it higher than > 57600? I don't even know what controls that). > > > > I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would > give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and > color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. > > > > Hello, I am in a similar situation. I am a student too, I have 25MHz NeXTstation color with similar limitation as yours (plus color rendering overhead). I am thinking about getting the 21" Color Turbo slab for $750. ADB. When Rhapsody is out, and when I am out of the school (i.e. graduation) I am getting a (head & keyboard & mouse)-less PowerMac with a video card that can handle the sync-on-green NeXT monitor. Yeap, I wanna use an AB switch and one monitor, one keyboard and one mouse to access both machines. The ADB Color Turbo NeXTstation and the PowerMac with Rhapsody. So, the answer for me is: get the Color Turbo, ADB and wait. The NeXT station will do a lot of work in the future, i.e. printer server for my NeXT printer and so on and so forth. Good luck. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: NeXT Optical Drive innards Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:23:43 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 13 I was poking around inside my non-working optical drive (can't exactly make it worse, can I) and came upon something strange. The head assembly is composed of the big black part with the lens and the little circuit board. The board ias a couple of six-pin ICs on the top and then another IC that "hangs" down--is this IC the laser diode, routed through the lens with the prism I can see below? Should the "legs" of this just be sticking up above the board? I mean, they look like they're connected somewhere, but... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:22:37 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: Timothy J Luoma In-Reply-To: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > I spend 75% of my time on the machine surfing the 'net > (right now with imaging turned off due to my low ram giving the > processor and the fact that I can't see color). The other 25% is > writing papers. If you're using your NeXTstation to surf the net 75% of the time, here's my suggestion: buy someone's used mac (040). Run System 7.1 and Netscrap. Surf away. Use the NeXT for writing papers. Of course, if you're dead-set on using NeXTstep, get the Turbo Color. It'll be faster than your current NeXT, particularly if you tweak it out properly (i.e. 128 megs of 70ns RAM, properly tuned FS, separate swapdisk if possible). It won't help the serial port situation, though. If you can live without color, Moosmann's also selling mono turbos (ADB, I imagine) for $350. My heart screams out "Go for the NeXT," but that's because I'm lusting after one of those systems as well. And, of course, I don't have the money for it. :) Actually, James Moosmann made his first post advertising the turbocolor firesale only a week after I ordered my mono ADB slab last year. :-/ My head, however, says "Wait." Stick with the mono. Get the Turbo Color if you must upgrade now. After you graduate, if you still feel you need (or just really, really want ;)) the new, whizbang system of the day, then buy it. I just wouldn't put a lot of money into a computer right now, particularly if NeXT is your thing. PowerPC is showing some incredible potential (as opposed to PPro which is looking like more of a dead end now), and your NeXT of choice a year from now may come from Motorola or Apple, not an Intel vendor. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!155.229.2.176!metro.atlanta.com!cpk-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!es.dupont.com!topgun.es.dupont.com!usenet From: "Yuris O. Fuentes" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: memory upgrade Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:59:17 -0500 Organization: DuPont Experimental Station Lines: 24 Message-ID: <331514A5.167E@Unforgettable.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newton.es.dupont.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; AIX 1) CC: yuris@magellan.es.dupont.com hi there, I can't find a FAQ archive for the NeXT so I've decided to post my question in this Newsgroup... I just added memory to my NeXTStation (from 16MB to 32MB). Everything seemed to be ok. The system ack the 32MB of physical memory, but during the rebooting I got the following error messages : 'unexpected kernel page fault failure' 'MMU invalid descriptor during table walk' there's a bunch of addresses here and there Am I missing something important? should I "reconfigure" the kernel? or something else?? I manage to reboot in single-user mode but after a while I got a 'memory fault' and 'out of space' messages. eventually freezing the monitor. Any help/suggestions are welcome! Thanks very much in advance Yuris Fuentes *:) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!nyang From: nyang@netcom.com (Nick Yang) Subject: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Message-ID: Summary: Help a NeXT novice Keywords: NeXT, Screwup Organization: Netcom On-Line Services X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:16:16 GMT Lines: 28 Sender: nyang@netcom3.netcom.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25226 comp.sys.next.hardware:27502 comp.sys.next.software:28286 I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the computer, I will get a message: "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse pointer, but no Workspace Manager. Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all the FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. - Nick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!mr.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!insync!Gamma.RU!srcc!Radio-MSU.net!satty.npi.msu.su!news.phys.msu.su!news.free.net!jupiter.nic.dtag.de!news.ecrc.de!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!newsfeed.de.ibm.net!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net!not-for-mail From: Buddy Cox Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Painting a Cube? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:24:17 -0800 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3303F701.6CDB@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip129-37-236-99.tx.us.ibm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) Anyone successfully re-painted a cube? Any ideas on stripping current paint, priming the magnesium, paint type (FAQ mentioned 'Spray-On' is difficult to find?), etc. would be greatly appreciated. thx Buddy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!208.212.179.10!rosebud!news.intercon.com!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Question about swapping root drive on NextStation Date: 27 Feb 1997 07:37:18 -0500 Organization: PHCS Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5f3v5u$o0o@papoose.quick.com> References: <01bc1fa1$36e738d0$01c0e1ce@bear> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27504 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25563 In article <01bc1fa1$36e738d0$01c0e1ce@bear>, Ken Gleason & Ann Ferguson wrote: >I've got to swap a root hard disk for a larger one in a nextstation. >Currently, my plan is to copy the entire root partition to another >machine's NFS volume, swap the disks, reinstall Nextstep, and then copy the >files back, and reboot. The machine is the authoritative source for >NetInfo for the domain. > >Any forseen problems in doing it this way, or any suggestions? Is there any way you can temporarily use an external case for this. This will simplify matter quite a bit. Just add the drive externally with an ID 2 or higher. Do a BuildDisk to get a boot track, and formatting done, and to install a minimal boot set. Then mount the drive as root : mount /dev/sd1a /tmp/mnt. Do a full backup and restore to the new drive (in bourne compatible shell) dump 0f - / | (cd /tmp/mnt; restore xf -) Power off, and change the external scsi ID to 0 for testing. Now reboot and you will be booting from the new drive, and can test it out. This will save a lot of time, and is safer. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Engineering Group (617) 895-3343 ) | The best wetware is often in beta. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Painting a Cube? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:12:40 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: <3303F701.6CDB@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk Lines: 13 In article <3303F701.6CDB@ibm.net> Buddy Cox writes: > Anyone successfully re-painted a cube? Any ideas on stripping current > paint, priming the magnesium, paint type (FAQ mentioned 'Spray-On' is > difficult to find?), etc. would be greatly appreciated. thx There was a photo in NeXTWorld of a cube painted dayglo pink. I think it was at MIT. If I remember right, you need to use water based paint, as its the only think that will take on magnesium. This makes stripping the old paint a bit of a doddle! $an #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!not-for-mail From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 27 Feb 1997 14:18:01 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5f452p$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950515BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25229 comp.sys.next.hardware:27506 comp.sys.next.software:28292 Nick Yang (nyang@netcom.com) wrote: : I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing : around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. : : The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. : : What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network : Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a : LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the : computer, I will get a message: : : "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" : : and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. : : I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at : starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse : pointer, but no Workspace Manager. : : Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, : maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all : the : FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send : an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. : Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My : number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. : : - Nick : Try to boot up in single user mode. I'm don't know how to do this with Next-hardware, but it should be in the NextAnswers. Then restore the NI database with the default somewhere in /usr/template/client... If you can't find it, send me a mail. I could check it out, when I'm home. -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ========================================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!rao From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Install help needed... Date: 27 Feb 1997 15:10:22 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5f484u$6e5@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> References: <5f1hts$mas@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: sysmod.egr.uh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Let me followup on my own posting. Don Yacktman, as always, gave a very helpful response and solved my problem. The key was to load the Adaptec 2940 SCSI driver **first** and then to load the EIDE driver (from a boot floppy downloaded from NeXTAnswers). After that, everything worked just fine. This was Openstep 4.0, on an ASUS P55T2P4 board, P166 non-MX, 512 KB cache, 64MB EDO ECC memory, 2940UW SCSI card, Quantum 2.1 G fast/wide drive, PS2 mouse and an EIDE CDROM. Dr. Jagannatha Rao (rao@news.uh.edu) wrote: : I am trying to install Openstep for Mach 4.0 on a Pentium 166 : with ASUS motherboard, Adaptec 2940 UW, a Quantum 2.1G hard drive : and a Goldstar 8X EIDE CDROM. I have installed Nextstep on Intel : before but that was an all SCSI set up. : My problem is how do I install from the EIDE CDROM. I searched NextAnswers : but I am still stumped. : During the boot process, I am asked for the SCSI conrtoller to which : the CDROM is attached. I expected to see EIDE/ATAPI as an option : using the two driver disks that came with OS 4.0 but apparently that : is not the case. : Do I have to download some boot floppyimage from NextAnswers? I understand : that the ATAPI driver makes the CDROM appear like a SCSI drive, but : what device driver do I use? : Thank you very much for this urgently needed help. : Jagannatha : -- : Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu : Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 : University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 : Houston, TX 77204-4792 -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.137.48.143!news1.agis.net!agis!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!news1.dn.net!not-for-mail From: jstella@okeefe.com (Seraphim J. Stella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Date: 27 Feb 1997 17:03:32 GMT Organization: digitalNATION high speed internet Lines: 64 Message-ID: <5f4ep4$l9e$1@news1.dn.net> References: Reply-To: jstella@okeefe.com NNTP-Posting-Host: megacube.okeefe.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: nyang@netcom.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25231 comp.sys.next.hardware:27508 comp.sys.next.software:28298 In Nick Yang wrote: > I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing > around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. > > The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. > > What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network > Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a > LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the > computer, I will get a message: > > "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" > > and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. > > I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at > starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse > pointer, but no Workspace Manager. > > Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, > maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all > the > FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send > an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. > Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My > number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. > > - Nick > No problem... When your machine first boots, a screen will come up saying "Loading from Disk". At this point, hold down the right "Command" key and tap the upper left hand key on the numeric keypad (generally the "`" key). This will bring up a terminal boot screen. Type "bsd -s" (without the quotes) at the prompt. This will bring you up in single-user mode. Single user mode has only a UNIX command line interface, so don't worry when no Workspace Manager launches... Type the following commands: mkdir /Users//NetInfoBackup cp -r /etc/netinfo /Users//NetinfoBackup/ cp hostcongif /etc/netinfo /Users//NetinfoBackup/ rm -r /etc/netinfo rm /etc/hostconfig cp /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc cp -r /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo /etc These commands will make a backup of your network configuration files, delete the old network configuration files and then put the templates back in their place. Make sure to replace the strings with your actual login name. F.Y.I The commands I gave you are not the most efficient way to execute these tasks, but are the easiest to "get" if you are unfamiliar with UNIX. Email me if you need additional help. Josh Stella #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTDimension Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:27:00 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 14 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) What is the large connector in the middle of the NeXTDimension board? -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Date: 27 Feb 97 14:29:53 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.51.58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 1:27 PM, David Herren wrote: > What is the large connector in the middle of the NeXTDimension board? Good Question. As a matter of fact, what is that large connector near the DSP port on a Turbo '040 Cube MotherBoard for? Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!bcm.tmc.edu!newsfeed.rice.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!fas-news.harvard.edu!not-for-mail From: Chi On Ao Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:49:09 -0500 Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> Reply-To: coao@space.mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: slippp9-05.fas.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi all, My apology if this is a FAQ... I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? Many thanks in advance, Chi On #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:00:56 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 23 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net,UseNet writes: >Good Question. As a matter of fact, what is that large connector near >the >DSP port on a Turbo '040 Cube MotherBoard for? Also a good question. Here's another. Want to sell your Turbo '040 cube motherboard? ;-) -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!usenet From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 27 Feb 1997 20:57:08 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 57 Message-ID: <5f4sf4$edp@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: celegans.sns.cs.ubc.ca In article shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > In article <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org>, > Timothy J Luoma writes: >> So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. > > $720 ViewSonic 17PS monitor > $462 Seagate ST32155N (2G, 9ms, Ultra-SCSI) > $440 * 64M EDO RAM (2x32M simms, leaving 2 slots open) > $266 * Retail Matrox Millenium w/4M > $235 * Boxed Pentium-133 > $182 * ASUS P/I-XP55T2P4 motherboard w/512k cache > $110 InWin ATX minitower > $ 68 ASUS SC200 NCR 810 SCSI card (Fast-10 SCSI) > $ 64 Microsoft ergo keyboard > $ 30 Microsoft PS/2 Mouse (with the curve) > $ 26 TEAC floppy I agree with Scott: My P120 system is way more responsive than my slab, and I can also boot it into Quake or Flight Sim and still have my NeXT slab to write on while I'm doin' those long cross-country flights :-) I'd make a few substitutions, though: You don't really need SCSI; I'd stick with the standard EIDE drives: they're a lot cheaper, work just as well in most cases, and are much easier to replace, sell, etc. Less hassle. You'll need a CD-ROM to install the system. You can get EIDE CD-ROM drives for under $100 that work fine great. This is less than the premium you'd pay to have a SCSI system that will let you use your old 1x SCSI NeXT CD-ROM drive. Add another $100 for a SB16 sound card. If you're a LaTeX typist, take a GOOD look at the keyboard before you buy it. Fujitsi makes a solid model (47xx) that has the same physical layout as the NeXT non-ADB, non-ISO keyboards (it has a rectangular Return key with the backslash (\) above it. You can use the NeXTUSA keymapping to make the layout respond in exactly the same way as your NeXT cube. I don't know what I'd do if they ever stopped making that layout. I'd recommend a 3-button Logitech mouse instead of the Microsoft 2-button. You'll want that middle mouse button to look up-and-down in Quake. :-) And you'll avoid dumping more $$$ into MS's coffers. Stick with a good motherboard like the ASUS one mentioned above, and you'll have no problems. I also heartily recommend the Matrox Millenium, but you'll only need 2 MB of VRAM to do 16-bit colour at 864x1152. -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!psinntp!psinntp!news.res.utc.com!cislora@utrc.utc.com From: Loren Lewis Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: test Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:15:54 -0500 Organization: Pratt & Whitney Lines: 1 Message-ID: <3315F98A.1721@pweh.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> Reply-To: lewisli@pweh.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 191.29.120.225 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0GoldC-PCT1196 (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2714 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:136024 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:87764 comp.sys.next.hardware:27514 this is a test #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!vega.math.ualberta.ca!not-for-mail From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 27 Feb 1997 21:42:34 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5f4v4a$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.math.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] One more comment: Even if you wait until you graduate to buy, consider buying the OS while you are a student. The difference between academic pricing and world pricing is unreal. I have both color and mono turbo's where I work. The color machine is a dog compared to the black one, when both are at 32 MB. I have also found that for staring at the screen all day, I prefer my mono screen. My dream machine would have both a mono and a color screen, but the mono would be 1600 x 2400 pixels. (Cornerstone makes them... 150 dpi) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:32:19 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 12 In article , David Herren wrote: >What is the large connector in the middle of the NeXTDimension board? > It's for the JPEG compression daughterboard, that never became a product. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!vega.math.ualberta.ca!not-for-mail From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Good config choices Date: 27 Feb 1997 22:16:52 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5f514k$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.math.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] I'm looking at buying a white box for my next Next. I've got the hardware compatibility guide, but where do I begin? I.E. I'm guessing that there are acceptable, good, and great choices. In other cases there may be superior hardware, that has features unsupported by NS, so the extra is a waste. Has someone collected benchmarks of various hardware bits? (In particular, graphics card and scsi card.) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:36:46 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 In article , Mitchell Allen wrote: > >Good Question. As a matter of fact, what is that large connector near the >DSP port on a Turbo '040 Cube MotherBoard for? > This sure is a FAQ! It's for a DSP memory expansion board, which isn't available anymore. Do a Deja News search and you'll find more info about it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news From: Jason Lincoln Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: My black mouse has died.... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 03:56:36 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corp. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <331505F4.8A7@us.oracle.com> References: <5f2kjt$6ha@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: reserved-dhcp-44-114.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Daniel D. Roscigno wrote: > > I have had to paint a "white" mouse black, now I need to wire the connector. I > got a mini din but don't know the conversion from a DB-9 (IBM style serial) to > the 8 pin din. > > Can anyone help? > > Thanks, > Dan > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------- > Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 > Physics Department, University of Florida > ---------------------------------------------------------If your NeXT is ADB you can buy a cheap Mac Mouse for it. You wont have to rewire the Mac mouse. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Date: 27 Feb 97 18:15:51 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.60.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 4:00 PM, David Herren wrote: > Also a good question. Here's another. Want to sell your Turbo '040 cube motherboard? ;-) No way! I'm in love with this baby. I want to dump my Macs for this. :-) Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 27 Feb 97 18:19:53 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.60.200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 2:49 PM, Chi On Ao wrote: > I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its > RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? If it's like an '040 Cube, you need to use a #10 Torx screwdriver. Then just pop off the back. The screws don't actually come all they way out (so you don't loose them). Steve pulled out all the stops on this baby. Unplug the fan and lay the back down. Unhook the OD from the motherboard if you can reach it, otherwise just tug on the Motherboard and it will come out. It will probably be tight so apply the pressure evenly. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!ix.netcom.com!nyang From: nyang@netcom.com (Nick Yang) Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Message-ID: Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Netcom On-Line Services X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <5f4ep4$l9e$1@news1.dn.net> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:45:41 GMT Lines: 13 Sender: nyang@netcom3.netcom.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25233 comp.sys.next.hardware:27522 comp.sys.next.software:28303 HI. Thank you all so much for your help. I got the machine without the manuals so I didn't know how to boot into single user mode. I guess I didn't look hard enought on the web to find out about this as some people told me this is a pretty common problem. I got the machine to boot into single user mode and replaced hostconfig and netinfo with fresh copies and it reboot fine again. Thank you all so much. I learned so much in the last 24 hours. I love the machine a lot and think it's a beautiful piece of art. Anyway, when I get home and I am going to play with it some more. Thank you all again. - Nick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:50:21 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 48 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: <5f4sf4$edp@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) croehrig@cs.ubc.ca,UseNet writes: >You don't really need SCSI; I'd stick with the standard EIDE drives: >they're a >lot cheaper, work just as well in most cases, and are much easier to >replace, >sell, etc. Less hassle. >You'll need a CD-ROM to install the system. You can get EIDE CD-ROM >drives for >under $100 that work fine great. This is less than the premium you'd >pay to >have a SCSI system that will let you use your old 1x SCSI NeXT CD-ROM >drive. >Add another $100 for a SB16 sound card. I TOTALLY disagree. I wouldnt' mess with anything IDE or EIDE. Way to slow--uses the cpu for transfers while scsi doesn't. I would buy scsi _everything_. Also, installs go MUCH smoother with scsci cd-rom drives. The installer is backwards in 4.1 such that if you have a scsi drive but EIDE CD, you have to select the EIDE driver when it asks for the scsi driver and then the reverse. Your mileage may vary, but I wouldn't mess with IDE. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:47:05 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 22 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) coao@space.mit.edu,UseNet writes: >I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its >RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? If the '030 cube is the same as the '040 cube then you need a 3mm hex wrench. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:52:49 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 22 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net,UseNet writes: >If it's like an '040 Cube, you need to use a #10 Torx screwdriver. Strange. My '040 cube uses 3mm hex. Definitely NOT torx (I had a #10 torx in my desk and had to go hunting down the 3mm when the cube arrived...) -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.new-era.net!clafey From: clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: sound options for cube? Date: 28 Feb 1997 15:54:12 GMT Organization: Mountain Area Information Network Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5f6v34$pbr@mainsrv.main.nc.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: buncombe.main.nc.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] > Speaking of being blind, would someone please tell me, top to bottom, > what all of the ports are on the cube motherboard? I've got no manuals > to describe the physical manifestation of the hardware. It's fairly > obvious where ethernet and scsi plug in, I don't yet have the mono > monitor I bought but do have the color for the ND board butI don't even > know which connector a mono would plug into (my guess is bottom-most > port). Which is serial A and serial B? Printer? THanks! Top port is the DSP port serial B serial A SCSI-2 printer (only NEXT Laser Printer works on this port) twisted pair ethernet thin wire ethernet Bottom port is the Display port which is the port for the monitor, or soundbox. Since it seems you have a Dimension board the mono monitor is unecessary if you have a sound box. The keyboard connects to the mono monitor or sound box. The mono monitor and sound box both have head phone and RCA left/right sound connections as well as a mini-plug for microphone input (8KHz 8-bit mono Codec). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!usenet From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:24:05 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5f70r5$2u6@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: celegans.sns.cs.ubc.ca In article herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) writes: > I TOTALLY disagree. I wouldnt' mess with anything IDE or EIDE. Way to > slow--uses the cpu for transfers while scsi doesn't. I would buy scsi > _everything_. SCSI certainly is less hassle, if you can afford the premium of a couple hundred bucks. I switched my system from an all-SCSI (Symbios 8xx) system to EIDE when I bought my 2.1G EIDE drive and haven't really noticed any difference in speed. Drives sure are cheaper, tho. CD-ROM too. And controllers come built in to the motherboard. Disclaimer: I use most of my files NFS-mounted from a 25MHz cube with a slow SCSI system; that's where *my* bottleneck is. An EIDE drive on a Pentium will be *waay* faster than any drive hooked up to a cube. -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!news-hh.lynet.de!news.lynet.de!not-for-mail From: andreas@lynet.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NO CD-ROM found Date: 28 Feb 1997 15:40:09 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5f6u8p$qbr$2@lynet.de> Reply-To: andreas@lynet.de NNTP-Posting-Host: pm-hl202.lynet.de X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Hello, I'm trying to install Mach 4.1 on an Intel PC (Pentium) Adaptec 2940UW CD-ROM Drive (NEC 3xi) He resets successfully the SCSI-Bus, but then he says "NO CD-ROM FOUND" and then installation stops. The CD-ROM Drive is accessible from other OS's (OS/2, MS-DOS,...) Can anyone help with that problem? Thank you in advance! Andreas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:58:37 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Feb-97 Re: A better NeXTStation or.. by Cmoore@cyberport.com > I dont think its practical to use any NeXT monitor on any other machine. > there may be a few other monitors that would work on a NeXT. > > they have an unusual sync rate, and resolution, thats not compatible > with any VGA or SVGA card i have ever heard of or any mac card. > > not to mention the cable,,,,have you looked at a NeXT monitor Cable ? Well, the cable is a 13W3 cable, which is or was a somewhat standard cable back when m68k-based Sun3 workstations were common. The monitor is a fixed frequency design with sync-on-green. You're right that the resolution is different from the standard ones used by Mac or PC video cards, but again it was a somewhat common resolution in use by the workstation world. So, you're unlikely to be able to use a NeXT monitor on other machines, unless you've got an old Sun workstation around. However, you can use almost any decent multisync monitor with NeXT's hardware, if the monitor will understand the sync-on-green. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news-out.communique.net!news3.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!isc-newsserver.isc.rit.edu!usenet From: Jeff Sciortino Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Date: 28 Feb 1997 02:10:26 GMT Organization: Industrial Engieering Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5f5eqi$1h1@news.isc.rit.edu> References: <5f452p$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-02-2-01.dialip.rit.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; U; 16bit) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25235 comp.sys.next.hardware:27530 comp.sys.next.software:28310 i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) wrote: >Nick Yang (nyang@netcom.com) wrote: >: I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing >Try to boot up in single user mode. I'm don't know how to do this with >Next-hardware, but it should be in the NextAnswers. Then restore the NI >database with the default somewhere in /usr/template/client... When the first graphic comes up on the screen (something like checking hardware) hold down the command key and press the ~ key (in the numeric keypad section of the keyboard) This should get you a prompt that looks like: NEXT> Type: bsd -s hit This should boot from your scsi device (hard disk) in single user mode. I think the NeXTanswer that deals with this is called power on? best o' luck >========================================================================== >Winfried Bergmann | >Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper >i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page >========================================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!vega.math.ualberta.ca!not-for-mail From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good config choices Date: 28 Feb 1997 02:44:25 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5f5gq9$9d2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5f514k$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.math.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca wrote: : I'm looking at buying a white box for my next Next. : I've got the hardware compatibility guide, but where do I begin? : I.E. I'm guessing that there are acceptable, good, and great : choices. In other cases there may be superior hardware, that has : features unsupported by NS, so the extra is a waste. : : Has someone collected benchmarks of various hardware bits? : : (In particular, graphics card and scsi card.) Motherboard questions: Does having the HX chipset instead of the FX set have any advantage? Is there an advantage to having USB ports? Presumably having extra simm slots makes memory upgrading cheaper. You don't have to throw away the smaller chips as soon. What are the tradeoffs between EDO, ECC and Parity memory? **** SCSI questions: Controllers such as the Adaptex 2940UW that have internal 50 pin and 68 pin connectors: Presumably they can be used with both? **** #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: My black mouse has died.... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:48:13 GMT References: <5f2kjt$6ha@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> <5f5gof$6fe@scanner.worldgate.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <5f5gof$6fe@scanner.worldgate.com>, Glen W. Armstrong wrote: >It sounds like you want a DIY solution, but if you want to save >yourself some time, ComputerActive (www.computeractive.com) sells an >adaptor for non-ADB keyboards that will allow you to use a Logitech >(perhaps others as well) *bus* mouse as a replacement. I'm using this >solution now, and I'm very happy with it. > Yep. I've used the computerActive "Mouse Tail" thingie and it works well (like there's much to not work well...) It's pretty cheap, too. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:50:44 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 27 In article , Charles William Swiger wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-Feb-97 Re: Openning a >NeXT Cube by "Mitchell Allen"@worldne >> On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 7:52 PM, David Herren >> wrote: >>> Strange. My '040 cube uses 3mm hex. Definitely NOT torx (I had a #10 torx >>> in my desk and had to go hunting down the 3mm when the cube arrived...) >> >> Hmm, I just took mine apart yesterday with a #10 Torx. > >Well, the two tools are roughly similar in size. >However, the NeXTtool shipped with the cube was a 3 mm Allen (hex) wrench. > I could picture the Torx (any idea what the non-trademark name for those is?) working, although it will likely bite into the screws a bit. This matters to some, but not to me (but the I have a NeXTtool). Also, if you're hunting for the "proper" tool, remember to get one with a rounded tip. I don't know what the real name for them is, but the flat tipped Allen keys don't work all that well. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: sound options for cube? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:54:34 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 34 In article , David Herren wrote: >What are the digital sound options for a non-adb cube? I've heard >mention of a soundbox or something like that but haven't seen one for >sale. Are these devices ADB only? If not, how does one connect it to a >non-adb cube? Other than the soundbox (or whatever it's called) are >there any AD/DA options for a non-turbo cube? > You only need the Sound Box if you're running a cube with a Dimension board and if you're running this way the you already have the Sound Box--it's where the keyboard plugs in. Mono monitors contain the proper sound hardware. >Is it also possible that I'm completely blind and that sound is already >an option on a cube? > Yes, all NeXT hardware comes with sound. You can get something called the Digtal Ears which is apparently a pretty good A/D converter, or go all out and get the AD64x (I think that's what it's called) which is a high-quality A/D and D/A, along with S/PDIF. >Speaking of being blind, would someone please tell me, top to bottom, >what all of the ports are on the cube motherboard? I've got no manuals >to describe the physical manifestation of the hardware. Sure. DSP, Serial B, Serial A, SCSI, printer, 10 Base-T Ethernet, 10 Base-2 Ethernet, monitor/sound box. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: gingko@bbs.para.co.kr (Hyeongjune Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How about speed of OPENSTEP4.1 in NEXTSTATION TURBO? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:58:41 GMT Organization: KORNET Lines: 6 Message-ID: <3317381e.14180356@168.126.63.6> NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.para.co.kr X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.168 Hou about speed of OPENSTEP 4.1 OR 4.1J IN STATION TURBO? Can you recommand it? Adn how much memory size is recommanded? Thanks for the user in advance....... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!not-for-mail From: hawk@cts.com (Mike Cianflone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help in connecting NeXT monitor to PC Date: 28 Feb 1997 20:04:04 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5f7dnk$5a1@bogus.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crash-i2.cts.com I am trying to connect a 21" original NeXT color monitor to a PC. I have connected the red, green, and blue lines to the respective red, green, and blue on the PC. The sync is off though. I was hoping that the monitor was sync-on-green. In any case, If anyone knows the correct lines to connect to a standard PC VGA cable please email the info to me! I have a few 21" monitors that can be made use of by hooking up to Intel boxes! Thanks for any help! Mike #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help in connecting NeXT monitor to PC Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:36:00 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <5f7dnk$5a1@bogus.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: Mike Cianflone In-Reply-To: <5f7dnk$5a1@bogus.cts.com> On 28 Feb 1997, Mike Cianflone wrote: > I am trying to connect a 21" original NeXT color monitor to a PC. I have > connected the red, green, and blue lines to the respective red, green, and blue > on the PC. The sync is off though. I was hoping that the monitor was > sync-on-green. In any case, If anyone knows the correct lines to connect to > a standard PC VGA cable please email the info to me! I have a few 21" monitors > that can be made use of by hooking up to Intel boxes! NeXT monitors are SOG, but unless you have a "special" video card, the NeXT monitor will not sync to VGA rates or to any standard PC text mode - it's fixed frequency. You might be able to use it exclusively in a graphical mode, tho. From the NeXT FAQ: The important specs for the color monitor are: Horz Scan Rate: 61 KHz Vertical Scan Rate: 68 Hz Resolution: 1280x1024 (NeXT uses 1120x832) NON-INTERLACED If you set your video card to match the above settings, it may work for you. Note that if the model # on your 21" is N4005a (as opposed to the N4005), you'll need to use 72 Hz for the v-scan (instead of 68 Hz). Also, if 1280x1024 doesn't work for the resolution, try 1024x768. You'll probably have to get the cable from a mail order vendor. Hope this helps, -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!news From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need info on NeXT color printer Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:59:43 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 18 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Hello, I have a NeXT color printer but no manuals. I have just cleaned it of dust and I have not yet reloaded it new ink cartriges because it comes up with and error message "50 SERVICE". does anyone have, or does anyone know where to find on the net: - the NeXT Color printer owner manual - a listing of error messages does anyone know what type of paper the printer takes? coated? I have ckecked peanuts and NeXTanswers, but I could only come up with the partnumbers for the ink. thank you, nick #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Info wanted: NeXT hardware password reset X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:57:40 GMT Lines: 9 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27539 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25579 This topics was discussed a while ago, but I did not catch it before it is too late now. I keep a copy of the NeXT hardware password reset program written by Louis A. Mamakos (then at University of Maryland), but I can not find the header files in order to compile his program. I also tried to take out the battery, but this did not work. Do I need to take out the ROM? What else can I do? Thanks for any info. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!tribune.usask.ca!usenet From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help in connecting NeXT monitor to PC Date: 28 Feb 1997 21:23:06 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5f7ibq$bir@tribune.usask.ca> References: <5f7dnk$5a1@bogus.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pisces.usask.ca X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) hawk@cts.com (Mike Cianflone) wrote: > I am trying to connect a 21" original NeXT color monitor to a PC. I have >connected the red, green, and blue lines to the respective red, green, and blue >on the PC. The sync is off though. I was hoping that the monitor was >sync-on-green. In any case, If anyone knows the correct lines to connect to >a standard PC VGA cable please email the info to me! I have a few 21" monitors >that can be made use of by hooking up to Intel boxes! The NeXT monitor requires a sync signal to be mixed with the green color signal. Most PC video cards put the sync signals on separate lines. You can build a simple sync mixing circuit, or you can buy a video card that supports fixed-frequency, sync-on-green monitors. Have a look at the fixed-frequency monitor page: http://www.devo.com/video/ Information on a card specifically for the NeXT color monitors may be found at: http://www.photonweb.com/next/ It's not cheap, though..... -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308 University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058 Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!visi.com!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!oronet!i528.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT Color Printer Date: 28 Feb 1997 21:59:06 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i528.oro.net Let me know what you have. Thomas #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard From: greyland@continet.com (Steve Ebener) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 04:52:54 -0800 Message-ID: <19970227045254436686@dialup012.continet.com> References: <01bc23a5$18390fa0$0100007f@lib-info-01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Greyland X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.58.168.76 Lines: 12 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!xfer.kren.nm.kr!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!r2d2.continet.com!greyland Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:23948 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:65919 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:25367 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:17849 comp.sys.next.hardware:27542 Lib Informática Ltda. wrote in part: > CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0Z My, that was interesting. Care to try again? Maybe with some words this time? -- Steve Ebener Greyland - greyland@continet.com 541/744-0568 Macintosh Consulting & Troubleshooting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.66.12.35!news-in.iadfw.net!usenet From: Yi Liu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about speed of OPENSTEP4.1 in NEXTSTATION TURBO? Date: 28 Feb 1997 22:52:23 GMT Organization: 9H, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5f7nj7$49c@library.airnews.net> References: <3317381e.14180356@168.126.63.6> Reply-To: liuyi@crystalball.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp16.crystalball.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) gingko@bbs.para.co.kr (Hyeongjune Kim) wrote: > Hou about speed of OPENSTEP 4.1 OR 4.1J IN STATION TURBO? > Can you recommand it? Adn how much memory size is recommanded? I asked a similar question a week ago and have received several emails from OS4.1 developers. Since it looks like there're a few people besides me wondering about the same thing, I'm posting a brief summary of responses: Q: Should I get OS4.1 for Intel or Turbo? What's the performance degradation from NS3.3 to OS4.1? A0: OS4.1 User on Turbo machines feel about the same as NS3.3 A1: OS4.1 Dev is a dog on Turbo, should go with Intel if want to develop. A2: OS4.1 User is slooowww on 25MHz slabs & cubes, forget it. A3: OS4.1 on PPro200 w/ Matrox Millenium flies! A4: OS4.1 Academic Bundle's CDROM comes with binaries for Intel, m68k, and Sparcs. Intel requires two boot floppies, not sure about Sparc. Turbo hardware will boot from the CD, so by ordering OS4.1 for Intel you get the floppy for installing on Intel as well as the option to install it on black if you want to. Hint: Order OS4.1 for Intel. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII} #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!noc.van.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!loki.tor.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MOUSE AND KEYBOARD INFO Date: 28 Feb 1997 23:05:08 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5f7ob4$ocr@news.digifix.com> References: <3316E45D.7EEB@gcomm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: <3316E45D.7EEB@gcomm.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 02/28/97, amando@gcomm.com wrote: >Recently I bought a Mono ADB Nextstation. The problem is that I am >Spanish and the keyboad's keys are in US English. Does anybody knows if >a Macintosh keyboard and mouse can be pluged in an ADB NextStation? > Yes. Any ADB keyboard and Mouse seem to work fine. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!vega.math.ualberta.ca!not-for-mail From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Info wanted: NeXT hardware password reset Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 28 Feb 1997 23:40:26 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5f7qda$bqc@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.math.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27545 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25581 Andrew Chang (tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu) wrote: : : This topics was discussed a while ago, but I did not catch it before it : is too late now. : : I keep a copy of the NeXT hardware password reset program written by : Louis A. Mamakos (then at University of Maryland), but I can not find : the header files in order to compile his program. I also tried to take : out the battery, but this did not work. Do I need to take out the ROM? : What else can I do? Thanks for any info. Take out the battery. Short across the locatation where the battery was with a paperclip. Go away for a cup of coffee. I should have forgotten it's passwd. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!usenet From: "Robert A. Dennis" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 17" FIMI specs & pinouts Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:00:13 -0800 Organization: Crump Institute for Biological Imaging Lines: 14 Message-ID: <33173948.470C@mail.nuc.ucla.edu> Reply-To: rdennis@mail.nuc.ucla.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.142.143.69 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi - I have looked through some FAQs hoping to find a pinout listing for the 17' FIMI color NeXT monitor. I want to connect one up to a PC running NT. I have heard that one needs a special video card that translates NT's VGA startup signal to the S-VGA that the FIMI wants. Apparently the Mirage z128 card will do this (ET6000 chip). Are there other card that will do this? What I need now id information regarding a custom HD-15 to 13W3 cable. Does the NeXT sync on green? I can get a HD15-13W3 cable made up, but do I need to have it wired up special? Anyone know how to do this? What are the specs for the FIMI? regards Buddy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed5.bbnplanet.com!papergirl.highway1.com!chnws02.highway1.com!news.mw.highway1.com!not-for-mail From: stimpy@castlerock.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 1 Mar 1997 01:13:57 GMT Organization: Continental Cable International Mid-West Region Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5f7vsl$2jr$1@denws01.mw.highway1.com> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> Reply-To: stimpy@castlerock.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ld-nas-072.sojourn.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(i) Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 2:49 PM, Chi On Ao wrote: > > I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its > > RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? My cube came with a cool black NeXT tool that fits all the fasteners.... 8-) I dunno what it is called, but it has a kind of a ball end on it, so you can pull with it too, and a hex kind of end..... sorry, I'm no Tim the Toolman, but I can do hardware.... I ripped 2 cubes all apart, put one back together with all the best parts and stuff, and it fired up first try 8-) hehehe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!CTCnet!news.math.psu.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!not-for-mail From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Low CD Audio Volume with Next Step 3.2 Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:11:58 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5f704e$r0j$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: shiva.nrl.navy.mil Keywords: NextStep, CDPlayer.app When I play an audio CD using Nextstep CDPalyer, the volume is not as loud for the same settings as it is with CD player application rrunning under Windows. CAN any one guide me how I can pump up the volume under NextStep also? Thank you. Narendra #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 1 Mar 1997 03:40:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 43 Sender: -no- @pm287-09.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f88ga$coe$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm287-09.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 1997 10:09 PM, Rudolf B. Blazek > wrote: > > I am thinking about getting the 21" Color Turbo slab for $750. ADB. When > > > Rhapsody is out, and when I am out of the school (i.e. graduation) I am > > getting a (head & keyboard & mouse)-less PowerMac with a video card that > > can > > handle the sync-on-green NeXT monitor. > > Where are you going to get the adapter that will allow the connection of > the NeXT monitor to the Mac? I have lots of NeXT monitors and lots of > Macs, but they aren't connected together. I would like to pop a 17" NeXT > on everyone's desk. > > I would appreciate the info. > > Mitch > > > Well, I am not sure. This is exactly the question I was asking here some time ago - without any responses. In the meantime, I spoke to a person who told me that they had a special video card in their Mac that allowed them to connect the green-on-sync monitor to the Mac. I hoped that there could be an option for the Mac too. Maybe Steve Jobs could advice Apple to keep new Macs hardware compatible with the old black NeXTs? :-)))) If someone had a definite answer to the NeXT monitor on Mac question, I would appreciate it. Thanks, good luck Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!fas-news.harvard.edu!not-for-mail From: Chi On Ao Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 02:33:41 -0500 Organization: MIT Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3317DBD3.5018@space.mit.edu> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> Reply-To: coao@space.mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: slippp9-04.fas.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Thanks to all who have replied to my original post. I got a 3mm Hex Wrench and opened the cube easily. However, in my attempt to upgrade the RAM, I have a hard time removing exisiting SIMMs from the motherboard. It seemed too challenging for my clumpsy fingers without some special tool. Could someone who have done that give me some guidance here? Thank you! Chi On #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!news-hh.lynet.de!news.lynet.de!not-for-mail From: andreas@lynet.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NE2000 Driver Date: 1 Mar 1997 07:25:12 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5f8lko$cfn$1@lynet.de> Reply-To: andreas@lynet.de NNTP-Posting-Host: pm-hl226.lynet.de X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Hello, is there a driver for a NE2000 compatible Ethernet-Card out there? If yes, where do I find it. Thanks in advance Andreas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!news-hh.lynet.de!news.lynet.de!not-for-mail From: andreas@lynet.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ELSA 1000 PRO / ELSA 2000 AVI under OpenStep 4.1 Date: 1 Mar 1997 12:02:45 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5f95t5$kcp$1@lynet.de> Reply-To: andreas@lynet.de NNTP-Posting-Host: pm-hl221.lynet.de X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Hello, is anybody out there running a ELSA 10000 PRO or ELSA 2000 AVI under OpenStep 4.1? If yes, where do I get the drivers. I found a driver for the ELSA 1000 Pro on the ELSA-CD Version 1.2A, but this driver was not working (black or flimmering screen). Can anybody help me? Thanks in advance! Andreas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:26:39 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 40 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> <3317DBD3.5018@space.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) coao@space.mit.edu,UseNet writes: >However, in my attempt to upgrade the RAM, I have a hard time removing >exisiting SIMMs from the motherboard. It seemed too challenging for my >clumpsy fingers without some special tool. Could someone who have done >that give me some guidance here? Thank you! I just had the same problem. NeXT used to ship a special tool, but I didn't have access to one so I built a tool myself. First of all, I was stunned to read the NeXTAnswer about removing simms from an '040 motherboard. Whenever I've worked with simms or dimms of any kind, they've always been removed very carefully from both sides at the same time. THe NeXTAnswer describes using their special tool to "gently pry the simm first from one end and then the other..." To build a tool I got one of those really big paper clips--the kind that's shaped like a butterfly, not the oval variety. The really big ones are made with a very heavy gauge wire. Straighten out a part of the clip and bend a very sharp, slightly more than right angle hook in the end. The hook should be no more than 1/8th of an inch long. Leave the rest of the clip as a "handle". Now insert the hook part of the tool from the side of the simm _away_ from the edge of the motherboard. The hook will push the plastic retaining clip out of the hole through which the hook is now inserted. VERY carefully pry the simm loose on that end and then do the other end of the simm. This will take some force and you'll have to be very careful that you don't suddenly jerk the whole simm out from both ends because you might break the plastic retaining clip on the other end. Again, this is essentially how NeXTAnswers describes this process as hard to believe as I found it. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!rao From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: memory upgrade Date: 1 Mar 1997 16:58:16 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5f9n78$144@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> References: <331514A5.167E@Unforgettable.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sysmod.egr.uh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I think this could be due to your upgrade memory being of EDO type. Try using non-EDO memory. Yuris O. Fuentes (yuris@Unforgettable.com) wrote: : hi there, : I can't find a FAQ archive for the NeXT so I've decided to : post my question in this Newsgroup... : I just added memory to my NeXTStation (from 16MB to 32MB). : Everything seemed to be ok. The system ack the 32MB of physical : memory, but during the rebooting I got the following error : messages : : 'unexpected kernel page fault failure' : 'MMU invalid descriptor during table walk' : there's a bunch of addresses here and there : Am I missing something important? : should I "reconfigure" the kernel? or something else?? : I manage to reboot in single-user mode but after a while : I got a 'memory fault' and 'out of space' messages. : eventually freezing the monitor. : Any help/suggestions are welcome! : Thanks very much in advance : Yuris Fuentes *:) -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good config choices Date: 28 Feb 97 17:47:14 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <5f514k$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5f5gq9$9d2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-25-37.access.one.net In-reply-to: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca's message of 28 Feb 1997 02:44:25 GMT In article <5f5gq9$9d2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () writes: Motherboard questions: Does having the HX chipset instead of the FX set have any advantage? Absolutely go with HX. FX these days is pretty much relegated to lower-end machines. HX gives you some performance improvements in the bargain. You can cache as much memory as you want (assuming your motherboard lets you put on a tag SRAM to get past 64M). On VX versus HX, HX is somewhat faster, unless you're overclocking (even then with certain boards), and HX can cache more memory. [HX is the "SOHO" chipset, VX is the "home" or "multimedia" chipset, or some such.] Also be certain to get a decent board. I got an ASUS, wonderful board. No-name clones are death. Is there an advantage to having USB ports? Not for NeXTSTEP (no drivers). You might want to get one with the USB headers, just in case. Presumably having extra simm slots makes memory upgrading cheaper. You don't have to throw away the smaller chips as soon. Just make sure you get enough memory from the get-go. 64M in two slots leaves two (or four, depending) slots to stuff another 128M into at some point. Or you could go straight to 128M (at a premium, though). This is one problem with VX and SDRAM - SDRAM is theoretically faster (in practice the L2 cache pretty much negates this), but you'll have troubles getting an SDRAM board past 64M, and using SDRAM and EDO wastes the SDRAM premium. What are the tradeoffs between EDO, ECC and Parity memory? For HX, Parity _is_ ECC - it uses 8 bits per 64 bits to do ECC, automagically. EDO is somewhat faster than FPM, though again the L2 cache overwhelms the difference. [On the other hand, they generally cost the same, so ...] You can also get EDO parity simms, though they seem to carry a premium. Personally, I didn't bother with parity/ECC. Didn't seem worth it for a client machine, and I've never had a problem with memory. Ignorance is bliss, at least for now. SCSI questions: Controllers such as the Adaptex 2940UW that have internal 50 pin and 68 pin connectors: Presumably they can be used with both? You can use any two of the three (2 internal, one external) at once. Can't use all three, because SCSI doesn't like a Y in the bus. Might also want to consider something like an NCR 825 - $100, with internal 50 and 68 pin connectors. A bit harder to get installed, though, and doesn't do automagic termination depending on whether there's an external device connected. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!pacbell.com!ames!purdue!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2.nyu.edu!newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu!news.cc.sunysb.edu!news From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTATION POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:40:30 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5ea1lu$rq0@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) In comp.sys.next.hardware jof@lune.univ-lr.fr wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for NeXtStation POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE. If you have it or > you know where i can obtain it please email me : jof@univ-lr.fr > > Thank you. > > Hi. You can buy used power supplies at a reasonable price from: DeepSpace Technologies 10087 Tyler Place Unit #11 Ijamsville, MD 21754 Ph. 301-663-3033 Fax 301-620-9634 "DEEPSPACE TECH." You can buy new power supplies and mice from: DecisionOne 2323 Indutrial Pkwy West Hayward, CA 94454 fax: 510-266-3078 voice: 800-499-6398 (option 2) Cheers, Richard Larson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!hub.org!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!oronet!i529.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Removeable drives for Turbo Cube Date: 1 Mar 1997 18:03:04 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i529.oro.net I am the new owner of a Turbo Cube and would like to take advantage of the internal bay for some type of removeable drive mechanism. I know the older OD drives do not work but is the some replacement drive available that will fit in the bay and allow larger capacity removeable media to be used, kinda like the older non turbo optical drives. Thanks Tom BTW, I am interested in buying also so if you have something for sale, let me know. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!ultra.sonic.net!miwok!pixar!not-for-mail From: jba@news.pixar.com (John Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black hardware sppedup question Date: 1 Mar 1997 18:20:43 GMT Organization: Pixar Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5f9s1r$ogj@pixar.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chorlton.pixar.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Hello, I'v got a color station (non turbo)... thia may be a terribly naive thought, but can I just replace the CPU and chrystal to 33Mhz? Is there any other hardware on the board that is speed dependant? thanks John -- _____________________________________________________________ John Anderson jba@pixar.com Pixar Animation Studios http://www.pixar.com "Lead me not into temptation; I can find the way myself." --Rita Mae Brown #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT color monitors on PowerMacs Date: 1 Mar 1997 18:41:22 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 82 Sender: -no- @pm285-15.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f9t8i$sv2$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm285-15.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Hello, I have asked about connecting NeXT monitors to a PowerMac in the Mac newsgroups. Here is the question and the reply from David (OKERSON@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov) Any comments? Thanks. Good day to all. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability Message from David: --------------------------------------------------- Yes, you can connect such a monitor to the video output from the PowerMacintosh computers without the need to get a special card. However, either *you* will need to learn about the internal adjustments of your monitor, or else develop a friend in the electrical engineering department (or among the technicians) who can help you. Before the Quadra models, Macintoshes produced sync on green, separate H and V sync, and combined H+V sync. The NeXT computers (and their monitors) used sync on green, and the monitors normally do not provide inputs for H or V sync. There is a simple adapter sold by a company from Nashville called "Griffin" which can put sync onto the green video line. Alternative, you could build such an adapter yourself using electronic components worth about $.01, but you might prefer to buy. The real challenge will be to adjust the monitor's horizontal scan frequency to match one of the modes which your Macintosh can produce. Do *NOT* think about "resolution of XxY". The only thing which your monitor cares about is the H and V scan frequencies. Of these two, the V scan frequency is quite flexible - the monitor will match over quite a large range. However, the H scan frequency has to match quite precisely. There is normally an adjustment, but it may not have a very wide range. Your monitor can probably be adjusted to match the H scan frequency for the Macintosh's 19" mode, which uses 1024x768 at a 75 Hertz vertical scan rate. Best regards, David ****************************** In article <5f8d4h$pbk$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, you write... >Hello, > I would like to connect a green-on-sync color monitor to a PowerMac. Is that >doable? Are there some special video cards, or could I just build some >adapter and set up a standard card to the following settings? > >1120x832 pixels and 68Hz >1120x832 pixels and 72Hz > > I don't have the monitor yet, so I am not sure which frequency it will be. >These are the monitors from a NeXTstation - I am planning to use one of them >when I move from NeXT to PowerMac when Rhapsody is shipping. > >Thanks for any info. > >Good luck. > >Rudy. > >-- >Rudy Blazek Michigan State University >blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability >(NeXTmail and Mime compatible) > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sgi.com!esiee.fr!jussieu.fr!news.forth.gr!usenet From: kostas polonifis Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice needed Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 19:26:20 -0800 Organization: FORTHnet S.A. - HELLENIC TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND TELEMATICS APPLICATIONS COMPANY Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> Reply-To: kpolo@isosun.ariadne-t.gr NNTP-Posting-Host: aurora.eexi.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) I curently have a pentium which i think to upgrate in a dual CPU machine pentium or P-Pro. Can any body tell me if the OS supports dual CPU?? If yes are there any special setings? Thanks in advance. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!news.dra.com!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!axb.slu.edu!news From: paul@spectrum.slu.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: 01 Mar 1997 14:02:17 -0600 Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking. Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: spectrum.slu.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? -- --paul http://www.umsl.edu/~psanchez/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 1 Mar 1997 21:15:18 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 35 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5fa696$s8a$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> <5f7vsl$2jr$1@denws01.mw.highway1.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: stimpy@castlerock.com In <5f7vsl$2jr$1@denws01.mw.highway1.com> stimpy@castlerock.com wrote: > In "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 2:49 PM, Chi On Ao wrote: > > > I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its > > > RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? > > > My cube came with a cool black NeXT tool that fits all the fasteners.... 8-) > > I dunno what it is called, but it has a kind of a ball end on it, so > you can pull with it too, and a hex kind of end..... > > sorry, I'm no Tim the Toolman, but I can do hardware.... > I ripped 2 cubes all apart, put one back together with all the best > parts and stuff, and it fired up first try 8-) > NeXT Hex Wrench (I have 2 or three of them among other things ;). 3mm. Very handy with Black Cubes and N4000x monitors. Randy > -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 1 Mar 1997 21:30:11 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 47 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5fa753$s8a$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu In Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Feb-97 Re: A better > NeXTStation or.. by Cmoore@cyberport.com > > I dont think its practical to use any NeXT monitor on any other machine. > > there may be a few other monitors that would work on a NeXT. > > > > they have an unusual sync rate, and resolution, thats not compatible > > with any VGA or SVGA card i have ever heard of or any mac card. > > > > not to mention the cable,,,,have you looked at a NeXT monitor Cable ? > > Well, the cable is a 13W3 cable, which is or was a somewhat standard > cable back when m68k-based Sun3 workstations were common. The monitor > is a fixed frequency design with sync-on-green. > > You're right that the resolution is different from the standard ones > used by Mac or PC video cards, but again it was a somewhat common > resolution in use by the workstation world. > > So, you're unlikely to be able to use a NeXT monitor on other machines, > unless you've got an old Sun workstation around. However, you can use > almost any decent multisync monitor with NeXT's hardware, if the monitor > will understand the sync-on-green. > > -Chuck > With a little tweaking of the innards my, 21" Hitachi (ADB) works fine on my Indigo 2! ;) Havn't tried a Non-ADB version yet. One of my sources says 21" ADB (maybe 17" ADB too) monitors are multisync.. ;) Don't have a Mac to try em on. And it is true just about any multisync monitor that syncs on Green work on Black Color Systems. So go hit MTech up for some ADB systems. Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Cant Power off??? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5era8q$fmn@lanshark.lanminds.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:01:34 GMT Lines: 23 In article <5era8q$fmn@lanshark.lanminds.com> jba@lanminds.com (=JA3=John Anderson) writes: > Hello, > > I'm pretty new to NeXT (but not unix)..I've gor a Color Station > (non turbo) running NS 3.3 > > After the upgrade to 3.3 from 2.1 whenever I ask the machine to > power off, it does but immediatly powers back up again.... > Hey, I didn't expect to see this FAQ again. Apple really seems to rejuvenate the community ;-) There is a preference (in Preference.app) that tells NEXTSTEP what to do on a power down event. Yours is set power up right after a power down sequence. Go change that setting and everything's ok. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:07:24 GMT Lines: 27 In article <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: > > Being a Cube user where I can put the Cube underneath the table, > I'm a bit annoyed with the loud noise that came from a turbo color > station that I have to put on top of the table (because the monitor > cable is very short :( > > So: > - is it possible to reduce the fan sound ? replace with > a quieter one ? > - or, is there an extention cable so I can put the station > underneath the table ? Similar to the long monitor cable > for the cubes. I believe the connector is 13W2. > > I'm pretty sure that the loud noise came from the fan, as I did unplug > the fan and the whole noise gone ;) > Those fans are easy to replace. You just need the same screwdriver you used to open the case to remove it. Then go to a electronics parts shop (like RadioShack) and buy a replacement... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: memory upgrade Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <331514A5.167E@Unforgettable.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:13:14 GMT Lines: 28 In article <331514A5.167E@Unforgettable.com> "Yuris O. Fuentes" writes: > hi there, > > I can't find a FAQ archive for the NeXT so I've decided to > post my question in this Newsgroup... > > I just added memory to my NeXTStation (from 16MB to 32MB). > Everything seemed to be ok. The system ack the 32MB of physical > memory, but during the rebooting I got the following error > messages : > 'unexpected kernel page fault failure' > 'MMU invalid descriptor during table walk' > there's a bunch of addresses here and there > > Am I missing something important? > should I "reconfigure" the kernel? or something else?? > You have got a timing error or a warm up flaw in some of the added memory. The only way to cope with this is to boot verbosely and then switch SIMMs until you identified the culprit. Some known to work spare SIMMs would come handy... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 21:34:13 GMT References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article , Charles William Swiger wrote: > >Well, the cable is a 13W3 cable, which is or was a somewhat standard >cable back when m68k-based Sun3 workstations were common. The monitor >is a fixed frequency design with sync-on-green. > 13W3 cables are still pretty standard. We bought some new IBM hardware last fall and they came with these connectors on both the monitors and on the display adapters. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!194.163.252.65!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: NeXT Optical Drive innards Message-ID: <1997Feb27.103516.459@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:35:16 GMT Lines: 21 In David Evans wrote: > I was poking around inside my non-working optical drive (can't exactly make > it worse, can I) Just a note about OD-Drives: In my experience, the dust problem which is often mentioned here on the net, is often not the reason for non-working ODs. It seems that over the time the laser is failing or degrading. Also the mechanics are quite simple, there is not much to adjust. There is a very fine metal-band which controls the stepmotor, this must be dust-free but should not be touched as it is extremely sensitive to be destroyed. I'm not sure why the laser is degrading over the time. It seems that normal CD drives usually don't have problems with the laser. I also don't see a solution other than replacing the laser. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!jon From: jon@steeldriving.com (Jonathan W. Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Malfunctioning Megapixel - repair? Date: 1 Mar 1997 23:58:50 GMT Organization: OneNet Communications HUB News Server Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: steeldriving.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I have a NeXT mono megapixel monitor, N4000A (with microphone, not the funky last model). It went unused for several months, and when I finally plugged it back into a machine, I found that there was a problem. The machine (a cube) failed the sound check on boot. I could get around that and get the machine to boot. Once booted, the machine would lock up completely. I later noticed this was happening when it tried to play a sound (and probably at other times as well). I could force it to lock up by selecting a new beep in Preferences. Another monitor works fine. Swapping mouse & keyboard didn't help. I'm assuming the sound hardware in the monitor is shot somehow. Has anyone seen this? Is it possible to fix it? Should I risk cannibalizing my working monitor for sound hardware? The working monitor is really old, one of the heavy pre-microphone models. The broken monitor has a better picture, so I'd like to use it instead. Thanks, Jon (PS: My net feed is supposed to terminate today, so I may not be reachable by email. Just post a response, and I'll catch it with DejaNews.) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Black hardware sppedup question Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:20:20 GMT References: <5f9s1r$ogj@pixar.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 In article <5f9s1r$ogj@pixar.com>, John Anderson wrote: >Hello, > >I'v got a color station (non turbo)... > >thia may be a terribly naive thought, but can I just replace the CPU and chrystal to 33Mhz? > No. The rest of the chipset won't like it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news.mr.net!skypoint.com!not-for-mail From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printing from OS4.1(Intel) to HP LazerJet 5L? Date: 2 Mar 1997 01:30:11 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5fal73$cq8$1@shadow.skypoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial064.skypoint.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20011-01 We have a dull boot Intel box with OpenStep 4.1 and NT Workstation 4.0. We are looking for a printer that will work with both O.S.'s Anyone have any experience printing from OpenStep 4.1 (Intel) to a HP LazerJet 5L printer? Can it be served to a NeXTStep/OpenStep network using the OpenStep (Intel) installation as a server? All comments welcome, thank you. -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ############################################################### #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: 2 Mar 1997 01:33:27 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5fald7$oet@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port3.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: paul@spectrum.slu.edu In Paul J. Sanchez wrote: > The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT > printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't > tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? > > last time I bought an EP-S cartridge at Comp-USA, they had a cross reference computer-terminal thing in the aisle that listed the NeXT Laser printer, and they looked it up and just handed me the correct item. this was i manhattan, I don't know if all Comp-USA's are equal. Off the top of my head*, I think LJ-II and LJ-III cartridges work. -rick *disclamer- the top of my head has been known to be wrong in the past. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.ttu.edu!usenet From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with next ADB mouse Date: 2 Mar 1997 00:54:59 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5faj53$59q@ttacs7.ttu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: osci.me.ttu.edu Keywords: mouse i have an adb mouse and sometimes the left mouse button sticks when pressed. i have to click the button again to release it. i would like to open the mouse and clean it. how do i open the mouse? (i removed the two screws that are visible but the mouse won't come apart.) any help is appreciated. thanks in advance. hs #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!news2.euro.net!out2.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed Date: 2 Mar 1997 03:19:22 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet Message-ID: <5farjq$ooq@news2.cais.com> References: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.177.56.103 In-Reply-To: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Lines: 12 OPENSTEP/Mach currently does not support multiple CPUs. You can run OPENSTEP/Mach on a dual-cpu Pentium Pro but only one processor will be active. OPENSTEP/Rhapsody will support SMP multi-processing in the future. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: "Jinhyeok Jeong" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does OS4.1 support IBM TP560? Date: 2 Mar 1997 05:41:18 GMT Organization: Seoul National Univ. Computer Engineering Department Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bc26cc$6a249ee0$df7c7ea8@gong.snu.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.124.223 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 NS 3.3 supported TP 560. So I thought OS 4.1 would support it, and I seeked display driver. But I couldn't find it. Does OS 4.1 support TP 560 and TP 760ED? NeXT says that beta driver for NS 3.3 will work on OS 4.1. Really work? Thanks. Jinhyeok Jeong. salbang@gong.snu.ac.kr http://gong.snu.ac.kr/~salbang/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!xfer.kren.nm.kr!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!kaiwan.kaiwan.com!usenet From: root@localhost (Charlie Root) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Why isn't my optical drive operating correctly? Date: 2 Mar 1997 06:43:31 GMT Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kaiwan116.kaiwan.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20008-01 The optical drive inside my NeXTcube isn't operating correctly it appears. The console screen displays the following message when an optical disk is inserted in the drive: od0?: write re-spin (laser power failed) ... This is obviously not a good sign. Is there any way to easily repair the drive (I am an electrical engineer), or am I going to have to accept the sad fact that it should be put to rest and buy a replacement? Regards, -- # mark miller # markm@kaiwan.com (NeXTmail ok) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!blanket.mitre.org!world!zilker.net!gater3.sematech.org!news2.amd.com!uuneo.neosoft.com!news From: Buddy Cox Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:47:03 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 4 Message-ID: <33077247.1F2D@ibm.net> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.109.153.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) > I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its > RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? A 3mm ball-headed socket will do the trick. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!192.244.176.52!news.iij.ad.jp!news.tcp-net.ad.jp!ppp014.nagy.tcp-ip.or.jp!user From: "" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 16:49:07 +0900 Organization: Tokai Communication Platform Network Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 157.14.160.14 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in trying out the NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a PowerMac 8500/180 with a DOS compatibility card? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT monitor on Mac Date: 2 Mar 1997 10:06:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm170-24.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fbjfh$54b$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm170-24.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Lines: 34 Here is another reply to my question about NeXT monitors on Macs. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability In article <5f8d4h$pbk$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: > I would like to connect a green-on-sync color monitor to a PowerMac. Is that > doable? Are there some special video cards, or could I just build some > adapter and set up a standard card to the following settings? > > 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz > 1120x832 pixels and 72Hz Yes, every Macintosh computer since the first AV's were introduced have built-in sync-on-green support. Actually, even many of the earlier Macintoshes supported it too, but not without the Basic Color Monitor (an early, sync-on-green Apple unit) extension, available online. Power Macs have broad VGA and VESA support as well, which will likely support your frequencies, though the resolutions you're after ride upon how much VRAM you've got to back them up. Of course, a sync-on-green requirement isn't the only thing that may render your display incompatible without an adapter. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!bignews.shef.ac.uk!usenet From: mmalcolm crawford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed Date: 2 Mar 1997 10:57:36 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5fbmf0$1em@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> Reply-To: mmalcolm crawford NNTP-Posting-Host: daneel.dcs.shef.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00083 Lines: 15 On 03/02/97, kostas polonifis wrote: > I curently have a pentium which i think to upgrate in a dual CPU machine > pentium or P-Pro. > > Can any body tell me if the OS supports dual CPU?? > No, it does not. The plan is that it will eventually, however it's probably not worth buying a dual CPU system to run it yet. Best wishes, mmalc. -- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!info.physics.utoronto.ca!news From: Wei Liu Subject: BNC to VGA cable Message-ID: <33184F19.2ADA@geophy.physics.utoronto.ca> Nntp-Posting-Host: gplab1.physics.utoronto.ca Sender: news@info.physics.utoronto.ca (System Administrator) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: University of Toronto Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 15:45:29 GMT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 7 HI, there: Does anyone know there is such a cable to connect NEXT monitor with RGB BNC connectors to PC's VGA vedio card? Thanks for info. Wei #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Ken Conlon" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 2 Mar 1997 18:44:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 67 Message-ID: <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: whx-ca7-16.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Mar 02 10:44:39 AM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2743 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:136462 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88023 comp.sys.next.hardware:27582 Hmm I have a MMX200 and it seems to be about 10 to 15 percent faster than my non mmx 200.(actually a fact, ran winstone and winbench and wintune and norton)...so id have to say your wrong...im waiting to see what happens when they start coming out with some software for this thing.... Louis Johnson wrote in article <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>... > Distribution: > > > wow what a newsgroup list. > > anyway, basically, any CPU since way back in the old days > fetches a program instruction from the program in memory, > then looks thru its instruction set to find out what > gates to open, signals to issue, how long to wait etc. > so, with MMX you now have about 30 or 40 brand new instructions > for the CPU to act on directly related to multi media > processes. a short cut. thus, MMX is faster ONLY for > MMX apps!!! dont get an MMX CPU if you arent getting > MMX apps that are written to make use of the new instructions!!! > > n.b.: RISC processors like those found in laser > printers work faster because even though they have > a 'Reduced Instruction Set' (Computer), well, they dont need > the missing instructions anyway so the look up process > happens faster. > > > Michele Chubirka (animat@erols.com) wrote: > : Okay, > > : Will someone explain, (for a layman) what an MMX chip is? I've > : started to hear about it, but know nothing about it and I'm NOT a > : programmer. > > : Michele > > : On 19 Feb 1997 20:19:25 GMT, "Jeff Chapman" > : wrote: > > : > > : > > : >clark001@ix.netcom.com wrote in article > : ><33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com>... > : >> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: > : >> > : >> > : >> > > : >> >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, > : > > : >No, let's always assume that the salesman has our best interest at heart... > : >that's their real motivation, isn't it? That's why they'll always give an > : >answer (any answer) to our probing questions... right? > : > > > > -- > > >feel free to add your flame response in the space provided: > _ > |_| > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT monitor on Mac Date: 2 Mar 1997 19:31:13 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 79 Sender: -no- @pm102-28.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fcki1$cql$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm102-28.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Yet another response to my question in Mac newsgroups. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability In article , howdy@wasteland.net (Captain Howdy) wrote: > In article <5f8d4h$pbk$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> > > > I would like to connect a green-on-sync color monitor to a PowerMac. Is that > > doable? Are there some special video cards, or could I just build some > > adapter and set up a standard card to the following settings? > > > > 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz > > 1120x832 pixels and 72Hz > > Yes, every Macintosh computer since the first AV's were introduced have > built-in sync-on-green support. Actually, even many of the earlier > Macintoshes supported it too, but not without the Basic Color Monitor (an > early, sync-on-green Apple unit) extension, available online. No, no, no, no! With the PCI Power Macs, Apple has dropped support for sync-on-green monitors. ONLY the NuBus Macs support it (which includes the 8100/7100/6100 Power Mac family, I think). I have a Radius TPC/21 and a PM 8500/120. I have searched high and low for a PCI display board that will support this sync-on-green monitor. Only two have I found, but there may be others: Radius' PrecisionColor 8/1600 v2 (the "v2" is VERY important -- it is the revision of the board that supports sync-on-green monitors); and Number Nine Technology's Imagine 128 for Macintosh. (If you buy the Imagine 128, you will probably have to order -- for free -- the firmware ROM upgrade, and download their latest control panel to get it working properly). I purchased the Imagine 128 (4MB) board. It faired best in MacWorld's accelerated-video board comparisons (although MacWorld didn't mention what boards support sync-on-green; shame on them!) It comes in a 4MB and an 8MB version. If you want lots of colors on that large display, look at the 8MB board. Several mail-order houses have discontinued this board. Only MacConnection had it (US$299 for the 4MB board). The Monitors and Sound control panel says that it is currently driving my monitor at 1152 x 870 at 75 HZ. The manual says that it also supports: 640 x 480 @60, 67, 75, and 100HZ 800 x 600 @60, 75, and 100HZ 832 x 624 @75Hz 1024 x 768 @60, 72, 75, and 100HZ 1152 x 870 @75, 80, and 100Hz 1280 x 960 @75, and 80Hz 1280 x 1024 @75, and 80Hz 1600 x 1200 @65, 72, and 75Hz Of course some of these resolutions are available only on the 8MB board. Whatever board you buy, insist on a 30-day money-back guarantee. There are no sure bets when it comes to matching an odd monitor with any display card. Ask to speak to a supervisor if the sales person on the phone won't give you the 30 DMBG. It worked for me. And I sure needed that 30 days to tweek everything (and upgrade the firmware and control panel) to make it work properly. Any chance there's one more monitor available? What size is the display? E-mail me if there's some possibility of getting one for me... Good luck. Enjoy, Dave #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: BNC to VGA cable Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 19:00:35 GMT References: <33184F19.2ADA@geophy.physics.utoronto.ca> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <33184F19.2ADA@geophy.physics.utoronto.ca>, Wei Liu wrote: >HI, there: > >Does anyone know there is such a cable to connect NEXT monitor with RGB >BNC connectors to PC's VGA vedio card? You can order them from a lot of computer stores. I bought one here at our campus store for $35 Canadian. Just ask for a VGA->5BNC cable. Depending on the withitness of the staff you might have to hand-hold them through their cable supplier's catalogue, but you should be able to find it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.solaris.x86,comp.sys.next.hardware,compunix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: PC vendors for PCs to run Unix (Linux, Solaris, etc.) Date: 2 Mar 1997 19:58:09 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fcm4h$a7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:72131 alt.solaris.x86:1562 comp.sys.next.hardware:27585 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:10837 I'm looking for PC vendors who know how to configure Intel-based PCs for multiple Unix operating systems. Does anyone know of any vendors that can configure PCs compatible with (a) Linux, (b) Solaris x86, and (c) Openstep for Mach? If they can do these three, they'll probably also be able to do FreeBSD/NetBSD, but I only actually care about those three. One that I happened to notice is http://www.apache.com/ . Are there others? Is there a list somewhere? Better yet, are there any articles comparing them, like the many comparisons in the popular magazines for normal PC vendors (who usually don't know anything about these OSes)? Apache seems to know their stuff, and their web-based system configuration is much more detailed than that offered by the big 3 direct-market vendors (Gateway, Dell, Micron, who know nothing about component selection for compatibility with the above OSes), allowing you to choose different kinds of memory, specific motherboards, many SCSI controllers, etc. Still, their prices for a similarly equiped 200MHz Pentium Pro / SCSI system seemed on cursory glance about 40% higher than Gateway (~ $3500 vs. ~ $2500), which is too high a premium, especially when you consider that the components used by these big vendors usually become so common that drivers are soon written for them for just about every OS. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!usenet From: "Nathan Whitt" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB NeXT mouse with a Mac Date: 2 Mar 1997 20:41:30 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 3 Message-ID: <01bc274a$28698b40$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: resnet-47-32.dorm.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 I was wondering if it is possible to use a NeXT ADB mouse with a Mac? detroit@mail.utexas.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!usenet From: "Nathan Whitt" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT ADB Mouse with a Mac (sorry if this is a repeat) Date: 2 Mar 1997 20:50:19 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 6 Message-ID: <01bc274b$63e1bca0$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: resnet-47-32.dorm.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 NOTE: I might have already posted this, but my news server seems a little wacky today. Forgive me if I am repeating myself I was wondering if it is possible to use a NeXT ADB mouse with a Mac? detroit@mail.utexas.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!netnews.upenn.edu!news From: larsen@math.upenn.edu (Michael Larsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SyJet Date: 2 Mar 1997 21:50:56 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5fcso0$u35@netnews.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts8-46.upenn.edu Has anyone successfully used a SyJet drive with black hardware? Michael Larsen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!uunet!in3.uu.net!128.196.139.12!news.Arizona.EDU!usenet From: "Mark Bakarich, regular guy." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.solaris.x86,comp.sys.next.hardware,compunix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: PC vendors for PCs to run Unix (Linux, Solaris, etc.) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 08:27:30 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona Lines: 46 Message-ID: <33199C62.12B58A5F@u.arizona.edu> References: <5fcm4h$a7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: tec3.psych.arizona.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: testor X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:72138 alt.solaris.x86:1563 comp.sys.next.hardware:27589 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:10838 Karl Pfleger wrote: > > I'm looking for PC vendors who know how to configure Intel-based PCs for > multiple Unix operating systems. [snip] > Apache seems to know their stuff, and their web-based system configuration > is much more detailed than that offered by the big 3 direct-market vendors > (Gateway, Dell, Micron, who know nothing about component selection for > compatibility with the above OSes), allowing you to choose different kinds > of memory, specific motherboards, many SCSI controllers, etc. Still, their > prices for a similarly equiped 200MHz Pentium Pro / SCSI system seemed on > cursory glance about 40% higher than Gateway (~ $3500 vs. ~ $2500), which is > too high a premium, especially when you consider that the components used by > these big vendors usually become so common that drivers are soon written for > them for just about every OS. Try getting the tech-weenies at Gateway to support your favorite Unix environment: "Linux, ... uhhh? Is this a program your running under windows 95?" Your choice should be based on your own technical competence. You can save $1000 by being your own tech support. If you're up for it, it's a big savings. The more exotic your hardware though, the better off you are paying for tech support. I'd have no qualms about justifying it for the high end stuff. Getting up and running in 30 minutes after delivery versus two weeks of tracing down patches and drivers, phone support from three different vendors trying to nail down the problem with whatever motherboard and card combo the mfgr cobbled together. Not again! Any good tech can slap together a PC system and load win95/NT or even Linux, Slowlaris or Openstep on to and make it boot. But flushing out the interactions of OS, BIOS, memory, SCSI adapters, video, sound and network cards takes considerably more skill. This is one of the reasons you see narrower choices in accessories; these accessories work well and we know their quirks. You also see people doing it themselves - "I'm looking for a motherboard/video/sound/network/scsi adapter that is well supported under Linux/NT/Slolaris/Openstep." Some one in the Linux camp decided to put together a 'Aviod these components' web page. Just beware that it's your time that you're trading for the money. -- Regards, -------- Mark Bakarich, Engineer, Tucson Arizona #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What's the latest lowdown on PPro MBs, Video, & OPENSTEP. Date: 2 Mar 1997 22:38:28 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5fcvh4$f2g@news4.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Hi all, I'm putting together a system for an OPENSTEP convert/friend :) Before I go off and buy the wrong items, I'm hoping some folks with experience can help me avoid any pitfalls. I really have just two questions. First off, I want the Motherboard to support Omni's Pentium Pro Video Enhancement driver. So it should support both Write Posting and Write Combining. So I guess Question #1 is, what are the best Pentium Pro Motherboards out that will work with the Omni driver under OPENSTEP? I think Natoma, and Orion chipsets work. Are there others that are that are new/better and work with Omni's driver? And my other question has to do with a video card. I would like to get a video card that supports multiple monitors at 1600X1200@24bpp. I know that the 8Mb #9 Imagine 128 will do this, but it's still very expensive. I believe the Matrox Millenium will support multiple monitors, but the Driver documentation seems to omit resolutions of 1600X1200@24bpp (the highest resolution at 24bpp listed is 1280x1024@24bpp(8MB+)). So I gues Question #2 is, are there any video cards (other than the 8Mb VRAM #9 Imagine 128) that will support multiple monitors at a resolution of 1600X1200@24bpp (it would be an added bonus if the card had 3D acceleration of some sort) under OPENSTEP? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Thu, 27 Feb 97 09:32:05 -0500 Subject: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html X-Comment: Send me your NeXTStep/OpenStep URL! Lines: 19 Thinking about getting a turbo color slab to replace my mono slab.... 1) Will I need a new modem cable? How can I tell? (I know nothing about it except that it works wonderfully with my non-turbo slab) 2) should I be able to remove the Quantum 105 from my mono slab and put it in a new color-turb-slab? The printer will "just work" as I understand it (even though it is B&W and the new NeXT would be color). Anything else I should know while considering this move? TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199702271447.JAA07921@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 1229e1966c418bb40c20389e3c2d5f76 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Thu, 27 Feb 97 09:47:51 -0500 Subject: Re: "freezing" Dell OptiplexGXPro w/NS 3.3...any ideas? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 1229e1966c418bb40c20389e3c2d5f76 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html X-Comment: Send me your NeXTStep/OpenStep URL! Lines: 32 Responding To: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Original Date: 26 Feb 1997 10:18:31 -0800 > Good luck. PC hardware can be problematic at best. Geez, wouldn't it be nice if someone made a computer dedicated specifically to NeXTStep so we wouldn't have to go through this hassle. # note: that sarcasm is not directed at _anyone_ I don't really think # that anyone @next.com wanted to stop making their incredibly good # hardware..... I hate disclaimers, they take all the fun from life Anyway, FWIW Having asked just yesterday about opinions about getting a "new" turbo-color slab or an Intel, I got about 30 responses, with the same motif: - the turbo-color slab is very old, and Intels will be much faster - the turbo-color slab with "just work" and the Intels will be a pain in the padded-area I also got a LOT of responses about people hoping that Rhapsody will come with more of the "just works" setup. TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT monitor on Mac Date: 2 Mar 1997 22:49:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 115 Sender: -no- @pm283-17.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fd065$60p$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm283-17.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Why didn't I crospost the question? Well, next time. Here is another response Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability In article , voicebox@dnai.com (DaveC) wrote: > In article , > howdy@wasteland.net (Captain Howdy) wrote: > > > In article <5f8d4h$pbk$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> > > > > > I would like to connect a green-on-sync color monitor to a > PowerMac. Is that > > > doable? Are there some special video cards, or could I just build some > > > adapter and set up a standard card to the following settings? > > > > > > 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz > > > 1120x832 pixels and 72Hz > > > > Yes, every Macintosh computer since the first AV's were introduced have > > built-in sync-on-green support. Actually, even many of the earlier > > Macintoshes supported it too, but not without the Basic Color Monitor (an > > early, sync-on-green Apple unit) extension, available online. > > No, no, no, no! With the PCI Power Macs, Apple has dropped support for > sync-on-green monitors. ONLY the NuBus Macs support it (which includes the > 8100/7100/6100 Power Mac family, I think). Er, yes, I stand corrected. I was actually recollecting exactly in the inverse: the AV's were the first to REMOVE sync-on-green support. Sorry. NO Power Macs support sync-on-green, and if fact most of the latter-day NuBus units (Quadra's and the lack cannot either, though there are several exceptions). However, it is still possible to hook up a sync-on-green monitor without buying expensive hardware to support it. The trick lies is relying upon another monitor to configure the sync to PRAM beforehand. Whether the following works depends on what monitor you have, of course. If you happen to have a non-SOG multiple scan display able to synchronize to 640 x 480 at 60Hz, you could then use it to set up a higher resolution, such as 1024 x 768, assuming the monitor is capable. Once the higher resolution was set, you could disconnect the multiscan display and connect the non-Apple display. Then the computer would start using the new video scan rate each time the computer is powered on, because it will typically use the former sync. The computer only starts up at 1280 x 1024 (or whatever) scan rates after you set the Monitors control panel and the settings are stored in PRAM. With no setup information in PRAM, the computer starts at the best scan rate and resolution for the detected display (usually 640 x 480). If you do not have an Apple display to use for setup, you can use the following workaround to set the Monitors control panel to the 60Hz scan rate. Workaround ========== Step 1 ------ Using a display adaptor, set the display type to VGA/SVGA. (This would be setting 'G' for the commonly-used MacLiberty video adaptor from Enhance Cable Technology, available through the MacMall catalog reseller). Starting up the Macintosh computer with the display adaptor attached between the display and the Macintosh video port starts by default at 640x480 at 60Hz resolution. Step 2 ------ Open the Monitors control panel. Normally, the Options button therein only allows safe operating resolutions. Step 3 ------ Hold down the Option key on the keyboard when you select the Options button in the Monitors control panel. The options panel now also shows unprotected scan rates that the video card supports. Step 4 ------ You can select the 1280x1024 @ 60Hz scan rate from the list. The video scan rate changes, depending on whether you have selected Rearrange on Close or Rearrange on Restart on the bottom of the Monitors control panel window. Step 5 ------ If you have selected Rearrange on Close and you select a scan rate currently not supported by an Apple display, you are prompted with a dialog box that asks if the monitor display is correct. The dialog only appears if you select an unprotected scan rate. If you do not select the OK button within about 10 seconds, the system assumes that you do not have a properly synchronized display and reverts back to the previous scan rate. Following the above procedure, you should be able to set your display to the 1280 x 1024 at 60Hz resolution and scan rate (or whatever combo you were looking for). Note that under Mac OS 7.6, and also when using the Monitors & Sound control panel, the system was designed to remove non-supported resolutions and scan rates, so the above workaround is unlikely to work in that event. Ever wondered why most monitors don't demand to sync on green anymore? Good luck. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news1.best.com!idiom.com!idiom.com!jcr From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Looking for Black cabling, etc. Date: 2 Mar 1997 15:29:45 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Well, I finally got myself a really nice Anthro console that's big enough to put three NeXT stations side by side, and I'm wiring them up. I was wondering if anyone knows where to find black power strips, 10-baseT cables, SCSI cables, etc. Trying to maintain a sense of *style*, -jcr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.177.184.15!everest.iserv.net!news From: Jeff Trestrail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC CDR-510 Compatible w/ NS 3.3 Intel ?? Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 19:22:28 -0500 Organization: Iserv.net, Grand Rapids, MI, USA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <331A19C4.3840@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: trail@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: gr-max9-58.iserv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) I tried this afternoon to install NS 3.3 Intel, using an NEC CDR-510 SCSI cdrom on a VLB Buslogic controller. The install would start ok, but would stop at various points in the process with I/O errors and halt. When I switched to a Toshiba XM-4101BME SCSI cdrom, everything worked fine (though slower). The NEC drive worked fine on the same machine under DOS, WinNT 3.5, and Linux. Is this a known incompatability, or do I have some strange hardware configuration problem ? Thanks in advance. Jeff Trestrail trail@iserv.net trail@ix.netcom.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.58.0.36!news.structured.net!not-for-mail From: "Allen R. Douglas" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 21:40:50 -0600 Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 12 Message-ID: <331A483F.63E3@jorsm.com> References: Reply-To: adouglas@jorsm.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1s12.jorsm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Re: I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in trying out the NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a PowerMac 8500/180 with a DOS compatibility card? I just tried installing 3.3 to see what would happen, with no luck. I believe that the scsi controller is the issue there (not suprising), and also how a drive partition is recognized. Perhaps 4.1 or 4.2 has an answer. If anyone has an idea ( I haven't looked for a compatible driver yet), please pass it along! Allen #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!cdouty From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 04:30:28 GMT Lines: 27 Sender: cdouty@netcom16.netcom.com In article <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org>, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: >1) Will I need a new modem cable? How can I tell? (I know nothing > about it except that it works wonderfully with my non-turbo > slab) All '040 NeXTs use the same serial port. I just spent way too much time making up some serial cables out of Mac-to-Imagewriter-II cables. (Wired 'em backwards the first time. :-| ) >2) should I be able to remove the Quantum 105 from my mono slab and > put it in a new color-turb-slab? Yeah, probably. The windowserver knows how to drive mono and color NeXTs. Just a question, are you actually booting off that 105? If you can afford a bigger/faster drive it might be well worth it to switch or keep the 105 as swap space. You would need an external box though. Enjoy. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.ttu.edu!usenet From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP opening NeXT ADB mouse Date: 3 Mar 1997 05:06:27 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5fdm8j$aab@ttacs7.ttu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: osci.me.ttu.edu i have an adb mouse and sometimes the left mouse button sticks when pressed. i have to click the button again to release it. i would like to open the mouse and clean it. how do i open the mouse? (i removed the two screws that are visible but the mouse won't come apart.) any help is appreciated. thanks in advance. hs #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 3 Mar 1997 06:26:25 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Hi all, I see with the new PentiumPro motherboards some new memory types have come out. Now as I used to understand things, it was better to have Parity memory than EDO. i.e. w/ L2 cache the EDO memory was only marginally faster, yet didn't have any parity features. Now with PPro motherboards I see all kinds of mishmashed terms. Now I've heard of EDO parity memory. I've also heard that regular parity memory would be used as ECC memory. And yet some memory is sold ad ECC memory. What is the fastest form of memory that offers error correction? Also, these systems still use 72pin memory, yet I've heard of new 136pin memory. What is the difference, and which should I go for. Sorry if this isn't the best place to post for these questions...if anyone knows of a more appropriate forum, please let me know and I'll redirect my ignorance to the proper locale :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: zyendarr@ix.netcom.com (Zyendarr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC CDR-510 Compatible w/ NS 3.3 Intel ?? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 07:27:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 58 Message-ID: <331a7730.795994@nntp.ix.netcom.com> References: <331A19C4.3840@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: zyendarr@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: chm-il1-26.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Mar 02 11:37:03 PM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Jeff Trestrail wrote: >I tried this afternoon to install NS 3.3 Intel, using >an NEC CDR-510 SCSI cdrom on a VLB Buslogic controller. >The install would start ok, but would stop at various points in the >process with I/O errors and halt. When I switched to a >Toshiba XM-4101BME SCSI cdrom, everything worked fine (though >slower). The NEC drive worked fine on the same machine under >DOS, WinNT 3.5, and Linux. >Is this a known incompatability, or do I have some strange >hardware configuration problem ? >Thanks in advance. > >Jeff Trestrail >trail@iserv.net >trail@ix.netcom.com NEC CD-ROM would NOT work well under any OS/machine that was not listed on the manual or box; as far as I know. I have used 3 NEC CD-ROM drives (3Xi, 4Xc, and other quad speed external one), and all of them don't work under Sparc and NeXT (I tested on mono slab and cube). Moreover, two of them (3Xi and 4Xc) don't work with the Adaptec SCSI2 card even on intel-PC. (If anyone knows how to setup, please let me know.) 4Xc works ONLY when there is another SCSI device connected between adaptec and 4Xc. NEC web or FAQ? They are just for "common" PC based stuff. If you call NEC, like I did, for support, they will just say "We don't support ANY Unix machine nor OS other than native PC's!" Also, even if you are using those PC native OS's, they NEVER support for SCSI cards that are not certified by NEC. I even asked, "Why my 4Xc doesn't work directly with adaptec AHA 2940UW even on my PC? I followed every single step on the FAQ." Guess what they said. (There's actually nothing they can say.) Customer support said, "Well, actually, NEC uses some special structure for enhanced features, and it's not compatible with adaptec cards." What *enhanced* feature? Nothing; as far as I know. If so, it's not a standard SCSI at all since most of their CD-ROM's don't work under special (as they say) setup. Also, if it's adaptec's problem, then why all other SCSI devices work just fine on adaptec? What the &#(%! I'm using AppleCD 600e on my NeXT. It works just fine without any trouble. Also, many Toshiba CD-ROM's will work too (I tried 4 different kind of them on my NeXT; they were just fine.) Just sell it out, and get the simple standard SCSI CD-ROM that does *NOT* have special(?) feature. I heard that there are few old NEC models working on NeXT. But I believe that getting other brand is far easier than set it up. Good luck. Zyendarr@ix.netcom.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:19:56 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 35 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: <331A483F.63E3@jorsm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) adouglas@jorsm.com,UseNet writes: >I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in trying out >the NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a PowerMac 8500/180 >with a DOS compatibility card? >I just tried installing 3.3 to see what would happen, with no luck. I >believe that the scsi controller is the issue there (not suprising), and >also how a drive partition is recognized. Perhaps 4.1 or 4.2 has an >answer. If anyone has an idea ( I haven't looked for a compatible >driver yet), please pass it along! I seriously doubt you'll get that to work. The DOS compatibility card tricks DOS into recognizing a file on the Mac drive as its "C" drive. That's fine, but Openstep wants a partition that it can format in its own proprietary format, and it will want to write to the boot blocks of the drive so that you can select DOS or openstep at boot time. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:24:19 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 28 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) jkheit@cnj.digex.net,UseNet writes: >Also, these systems still use 72pin memory, yet I've heard of new >136pin memory. What is the difference, and which should I go for. John- The new memory is a DIMM (Dual Inline Memory Module) and essentially amounts to two SIMMs on the same card (that's a little simplified). Most new Macs at least use DIMMs and not SIMMs, allowing you to upgrade one bank at a time instead of two at a time. I believe there are speed advantages still to upgrading in pairs. I have no idea what to prefer on the PC side of the fence. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 27 Feb 97 22:41:13 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.50.254 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 7:52 PM, David Herren wrote: > Strange. My '040 cube uses 3mm hex. Definitely NOT torx (I had a #10 torx in my desk and had > to go hunting down the 3mm when the cube arrived...) Hmm, I just took mine apart yesterday with a #10 Torx. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 3 Mar 97 08:14:30 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-14-23.access.one.net In-reply-to: John Kheit's message of 3 Mar 1997 06:26:25 GMT Lines: 52 In article <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net>, John Kheit writes: I see with the new PentiumPro motherboards some new memory types have come out. Now as I used to understand things, it was better to have Parity memory than EDO. i.e. w/ L2 cache the EDO memory was only marginally faster, yet didn't have any parity features. Now with PPro motherboards I see all kinds of mishmashed terms. Now I've heard of EDO parity memory. I've also heard that regular parity memory would be used as ECC memory. And yet some memory is sold ad ECC memory. What is the fastest form of memory that offers error correction? Believe me, if the memory really was ECC memory (and not handled by the chipset), you'd know. Real ECC memory costs like two or three times as much as plain-old plain-old. Broadly, there's FPM, EDO, and SDRAM as memory types, from worst to best in performance. On top of that, you can have parity versions of each, and modern PPro and Pentium chipsets do ECC using the parity bits. [Since the ECC uses 8 bits per 64 bits of memory, there are also modules which can do ECC but _can't_ do parity.] Lastly, there is SIMM (72-pin, install in pairs) vs DIMM (13x pin, install singly). Generally available are plain FPM SIMMs, FPM with parity SIMMs, EDO SIMMs, and SDRAM DIMMs. But you can get EDO DIMMs in a number of places, and EDO with parity in a number of places. I've not seen SDRAM with parity, probably because there aren't all that many customers for it. If it's not clear whether it's parity or not, you can generally look to the numbers the vendor quotes - things like 8/16/32 are non-parity, 9/18/36 are parity. The main problem (to my mind) with parity is that it doesn't do most people one bit of good unless their OS has some sort of recovery procedures. Without parity, if there's an error (and they are generally infrequent), you never notice it. With parity, you can potentially notice it - but if your operating system just crashes, or perhaps crashes with a graceful message, it didn't really buy you much. [Anyone know how NeXTSTEP handles parity errors?] EDO is pretty much the way to go today. FPM has no discount, so is only worth it if you can't use EDO. SDRAM is still at a premium, and SDRAM-based motherboards only provide one or two DIMM slots, and commonly available modules only go to 32M, which really limits your memory sizes. Besides, SDRAM is only available with PentiumPro motherboards using non-Intel chipsets :-). Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.tng.oche.de!fireball.tng.oche.de!hansmuff From: Lutz Heinrichs Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Distribution: world Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 08:18:28 +0000 References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> X-Attribution: Lutz Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.16/Emacs 19.33 X-Posting-Software: UUPC/extended 1.12r.jdc0 inews (14Jul96 18:14) Lines: 28 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2757 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:136611 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88100 comp.sys.next.hardware:27605 >>> "Kenbug" == Ken Conlon writes: Kenbug> Hmm I have a MMX200 and it seems to be about 10 to 15 percent faster than Kenbug> my non mmx 200.(actually a fact, ran winstone and winbench and wintune and Kenbug> norton)...so id have to say your wrong...im waiting to see what happens Kenbug> when they start coming out with some software for this thing.... [snip] Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not much. A good rule is that when processor speed doubles then this is really noticeable and brings you a good performance boost. 10 to 15% is not much; and MMX the way Intel did it is a hog... lets see what AMD and Cyrix will throw on the market, I am sure at least AMD will surprise everyone with the K6 performance, even on the MMX sector. I'd rather save the money for MMX, get a P200 without MMX and a Voodoo based 3D card because this kicks MMX's ass in games. What else do you need MMX for :) Lutz -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Lutz Heinrichs e-mail..: hansmuff@fireball.tng.oche.de Aachen, Germany voice...: +49 2408 5544 fax.....: +49 2408 5543 Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT ADB Mouse with a Mac (sorry if this is a repeat) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 01:40:28 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 19 Message-ID: <331AFEF2.64D9@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <01bc274b$63e1bca0$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.164 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: Nathan Whitt Nathan Whitt wrote: > > NOTE: I might have already posted this, but my news server seems a little > wacky today. Forgive me if I am repeating myself > > I was wondering if it is possible to use a NeXT ADB mouse with a Mac? > > detroit@mail.utexas.edu Yes, It works Great on my PowerMac !!! younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!bone.think.com!gateway From: jmosher@think.com (Jessica Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best notebook for 3.2 Intel? Date: 3 Mar 1997 13:26:32 -0500 Organization: Newsgate Lines: 24 Sender: root@bone.think.com Message-ID: <9703031826.AA11021@thoon.think.com> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:16614 comp.sys.next.hardware:27607 Subject says it all--could someone mail me suggestions for the best make/model of a pentium or i486 notebook, with color, for NS 3.2? "Best" is defined as: --installs without any problems --good manufacturer warranty and support --good active matrix color screen It would be nice, although certainly very secondary, if this notebook was black colored. Price, for now, is no object. If there's a web site somewhere, pleasse feel free to send me its address. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Thinking Machines Corporation Systems Support Engineer c/o American Express "Forget about World Peace...Visualize Using Your Turn Signal!" -Unknown, seen on a bumper sticker ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ jmosher@Think.COM Pager: 1-800-946-4646 pin: 8014486 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.m.shuttle.de!news.s.shuttle.de!news.k.shuttle.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: stefan.boehringer@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ELSA 1000 PRO / ELSA 2000 AVI under OpenStep 4.1 Date: 3 Mar 1997 18:31:17 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5ff5dl$34p$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialppp-3-41.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) # is anybody out there running a # ELSA 10000 PRO or ELSA 2000 AVI # # under OpenStep 4.1? If yes, where do I get the drivers. # I found a driver for the ELSA 1000 Pro on the ELSA-CD # Version 1.2A, but this driver was not working (black or # flimmering screen). # Can anybody help me? # Thanks in advance! me too! - Stefan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!news.u.washington.edu!root From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 28 Feb 1997 07:45:00 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Lines: 97 Message-ID: <5f62ds$pq5@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) NNTP-Posting-Host: pacts37.phys.washington.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.10 Beta(n) Cc: blazek@stt.msu.edu Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > In <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > > > > > > So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. Problem is > > I know nothing about PCs and wouldn't know where to begin putting > > an NS-capable machine together. Also, if I got an Intel machine I'd > > want a 17" monitor, good graphics, and improve my serial port speed > > (can this be done? what speeds can I get with it higher than > > 57600? I don't even know what controls that). > > > > > > > > I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would > > give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and > > color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > I am in a similar situation. I am a student too, I have 25MHz NeXTstation > color with similar limitation as yours (plus color rendering overhead). > <+etc.> > So, the answer for me is: get the Color Turbo, ADB and wait. The NeXT station > will do a lot of work in the future, i.e. printer server for my NeXT printer > and so on and so forth. > Well, I can perhaps weigh in on this one from a point of experience. On the one hand: About six months ago I sold a couple of machines (a nice old cube and SOB my original NeXTstation from back in 1990) so that I could upgrade to a color turbo. Typing on it at this moment. It runs just fine, particularly with a RAM upgrade. I paid ~$1500 for it, plus RAM, plus monitor (a 20 inch sony from Sam Goldberger) and think I got a great deal. Of course, had I waited just two months until the CIA decided to clear house, I could have sold my two machines, had roughly the same one I have now, and cleared $500 or more. Nontheless, it's a good deal. The color Turbo is not only faster in terms of CPU, it seems to have a much better graphics card. Surfing the WEB ain't speedy, but it's definitely more than 1/3 faster on my mono machines. I have some friends who know Mooseman and they speak quite highly of him.... so, if cash is a limiting factor I strongly encourage you to buy a $600 or $750 Color Turbo. Won't set the world on fire, but definitely makes for a nice upgrade that will keep you happy until graduation. On the other hand: I myself have "come up in the world" of late, making a better salary than expected since moving back to Seattle. Largely due to some contract work at the "Evil Empire" (I know, I know.... but the storm troopers are less prevalent than you'd think :) and some other lucky breaks. So, while not rich, I'm reasonably cash flush and decided to spring for a pentium system. Got a pretty good deal on a P166 with 1.7 Gig drive, 17" monitor, 12X CD-ROM, etc. etc. Am in the process of setting up multiple partitions for NT, NeXTstep, and Linux and I can honestly say it's a mile ahead of the Turbo. Will be even better with a little more RAM. Look... like all things true "market pricing" is making it to computing. In the late 70s and even up to the mid 80s you could still find "deals" on California wines, a $6 bottle that was to die for, but no one had heard about. Once the market really took off it quickly became the case that a $7 bottle of wine was, as a rule, not as good as a $10 bottle of wine. Similarly with computers. The PC market is extremely competitive, and as long as you don't walk into a shop, point at an IBM Stealth and say "I want that because it's black" (thus paying full MSRP) you can get a very good deal at a price that represents what you're getting. In this sense Mooseman's color turbos are a good deal (sudden high supply in a market where the demand is limited) but the $2K or so that a good pentium box (without the latest marketing ploy, MMX) sets you back definitely buys you a better machine. If I were still a student I'd go with the Color Turbo for a year or so until my "disposable income" was a little more disposable. Hope this proves helpful --- Tom ********** NOTICE CHANGE OF ADDRESS *************** _________________________________________________________________ Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Depts. of Chemistry and Physics 206-721-0754 (home/FAX) University of Washington 206-713-0326 (Work) Seattle, WA 98195 tlm@borg.phys.washington.edu Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/ _________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CorelDraw 7! only costs US$40?! 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If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.agtac.net!crash.videotron.ab.ca!claire@mail.videotron.ab.ca From: stop@spam.com (see sig for my real address) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster PnP Config Problems Date: 28 Feb 1997 06:38:21 GMT Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. (WAVE) Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5f5ugt$qhc1@crash.videotron.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: fhost219.v-wave.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 1.333 $] NF-S-00020 On 02/22/97, Dale & wrote: > >I can't seem to get OPENSTEP to recognize my SoundBlaster 16 PnP. I've >installed the lastest drivers for SoundBlaster, EISABus etc. >Has anyone gotten this card to work with OPENSTEP? I havn't tried it with OS, but I just did it today under NS 3.3. The tricks were revealed in a post by Rakesh Dubey from Next that I found in the c.s.n.hardware archives. Here's what I did: - newest EISA driver and SB16 PnP driver - enable PnP in the EISA driver via Config.app - check in /usr/adm/messages for the boot-time PnP messages, and take note of the PnP ID of the SB card. Here's an example: Feb 27...mach: available memory = 28.72 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = e5d Feb 27...mach: PnP: Plug and Play support enabled Feb 27...mach: PnP: Plug and Play BIOS present Feb 27...mach: PnP: read port 0x20b, max csn 1 Feb 27...mach: PnP: csn 1: CTL0070 s/n 0xffffffff The CTL0070 is what matters. Edit this into Instance0.table in /usr/Devices/SoundBlaster16.config in the line that says: "Auto Detect IDs" = "CTL0070"; In my case, the ID in the standard version of the instance table didn't match the above ID, and that prevented the card from being registered correctly. With this fixed, it works fine (OK, fine for a Sound Blaster). Hope it works for you. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.willinet.net!usenet From: "National Liquidators" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Computer Hardware, SOFT PRICES!! 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We offer a 90 day warranty on our product, in addition to any manufacturer warranty. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.245.3.50!news.primenet.com!tyf From: tyf@primenet.com (TinYau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sample Intel Setup Posted Date: 3 Mar 1997 14:54:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5ffh9p$n00@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: tyf@206.165.5.111 (tyf) Hi, I have created a little summary of what I just went through to load NS3.3 onto an Intel setup. If you are curious to how difficult it's to set it up or want to look for hints to build a good set up, please look at : http://www-ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf/nsfip.html And thanks to the other people who have helped me to set my machine up! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tyf __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ tyf@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 3 Mar 1997 22:47:26 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5ffkdu$qd1@news4.digex.net> References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) In article , you wrote: > EDO is pretty much the way to go today. FPM has no discount, so > is only worth it if you can't use EDO. SDRAM is still at a > premium, and SDRAM-based motherboards only provide one or two > DIMM slots, and commonly available modules only go to 32M, which > really limits your memory sizes. Besides, SDRAM is only available > with PentiumPro motherboards using non-Intel chipsets :-). So what would be the ideal? Would it be EDO w/ parity, thus giving me ECC on a PPro motherboard? And what would be better, a 72pin SIMM, or a 136pin DIMM? BTW, a parity error under NS just lets you restart the system. The theory I guess is to not allow data to be further corrupted by being operated on... Thanks for the info! :) Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-24.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!mfs-annex1-p24.dsphere.net!user From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: 3 Mar 1997 17:26:45 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p24.dsphere.net In article , "" wrote: >I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in trying out the >NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a PowerMac 8500/180 with a DOS >compatibility card? The DOS cards have a custom bios that takes bios calls to the HD and routes them the mac hard disk. Nifty solution. Unfortunately, that only works with DOS based operating systems. "Real" operating systems access the HD controllers directly. Since this controller doesn't actually exist on a DOS card, these operating systems do not work. Basically, there's a reason Apple calls them "DOS compatibility cards" and not "PC compatibility cards" Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 3 Mar 1997 23:22:18 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5ffmfa$h71@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article , Scott Hess wrote: > Lastly, there >is SIMM (72-pin, install in pairs) vs DIMM (13x pin, install singly). DIMMs have 168 pins. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!pasteur.fr!jussieu.fr!news.forth.gr!news-ath.forthnet.gr!not-for-mail From: Gerasimos Melissaratos Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 23:00:40 +0200 Organization: FORTHnet S.A. - HELLENIC TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND TELEMATICS APPLICATIONS COMPANY Lines: 8 Message-ID: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp9.ath.forthnet.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.1.5 i586) Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or P-PROs)??? -- Bye, Makoulossus (a.k.a. Gerasimos Melissaratos) gmelis@eexi.gr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: sound options for cube? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:28:38 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) Lines: 31 What are the digital sound options for a non-adb cube? I've heard mention of a soundbox or something like that but haven't seen one for sale. Are these devices ADB only? If not, how does one connect it to a non-adb cube? Other than the soundbox (or whatever it's called) are there any AD/DA options for a non-turbo cube? Is it also possible that I'm completely blind and that sound is already an option on a cube? Speaking of being blind, would someone please tell me, top to bottom, what all of the ports are on the cube motherboard? I've got no manuals to describe the physical manifestation of the hardware. It's fairly obvious where ethernet and scsi plug in, I don't yet have the mono monitor I bought but do have the color for the ND board butI don't even know which connector a mono would plug into (my guess is bottom-most port). Which is serial A and serial B? Printer? THanks! -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Date: 4 Mar 1997 01:16:21 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5fft55$31o@news3.digex.net> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) wrote: > Gerasimos Melissaratos writes > > Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium > > or P-PROs)??? > Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) Oooh, you nasty teaser you :)))) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!news.good.net!news.good.net!news.cyberport.com!not-for-mail From: cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 28 Feb 1997 04:49:03 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Message-ID: <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm157-75.cyberport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 Lines: 35 In article , mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net says... > >On Wed, Feb 26, 1997 10:09 PM, Rudolf B. Blazek >wrote: >> I am thinking about getting the 21" Color Turbo slab for $750. ADB. When > >> Rhapsody is out, and when I am out of the school (i.e. graduation) I am >> getting a (head & keyboard & mouse)-less PowerMac with a video card that >> can >> handle the sync-on-green NeXT monitor. > >Where are you going to get the adapter that will allow the connection of >the NeXT monitor to the Mac? I have lots of NeXT monitors and lots of >Macs, but they aren't connected together. I would like to pop a 17" NeXT >on everyone's desk. > >I would appreciate the info. > >Mitch > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. >--------------------------------------------------------- > I dont think its practical to use any NeXT monitor on any other machine. there may be a few other monitors that would work on a NeXT. they have an unusual sync rate, and resolution, thats not compatible with any VGA or SVGA card i have ever heard of or any mac card. not to mention the cable,,,,have you looked at a NeXT monitor Cable ? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!inkblot.med.cornell.edu!NewsWatcher!user From: mfuortes@med.cornell.edu (Michele Fuortes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 21:10:04 -0500 Organization: Leuca Software Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.251.4.71 X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.1.8 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27621 comp.sys.next.misc:25268 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25633 Hi everybody, I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have the Best of Both World ;-) Is it feasible? Does anybody have any experience with it? I don't see intrinsic limitations. I REALLY don't want to buy a Pentium box just for it (with memory, HD, monitor etc.etc) I don't care if it would be a little slow on a 486 card and I don't want to wait for Rhapsody DR. Any ideas? Thanks a lot #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Date: 3 Mar 1997 23:40:25 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> Reply-To: mark_bessey@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bananajr.next.com Gerasimos Melissaratos writes > Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or > P-PROs)??? Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!bignews.shef.ac.uk!usenet From: mmalcolm crawford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: sound options for cube? Date: 28 Feb 1997 14:10:22 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5f6p0e$suh@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: Reply-To: mmalcolm crawford NNTP-Posting-Host: daneel.dcs.shef.ac.uk In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00083 Lines: 26 On 02/28/97, David Herren wrote: > What are the digital sound options for a non-adb cube? I've heard > mention of a soundbox or something like that but haven't seen one for > sale. Are these devices ADB only? If not, how does one connect it to a > non-adb cube? Other than the soundbox (or whatever it's called) are > there any AD/DA options for a non-turbo cube? > There are a number of options: The cube itself does 8KHz 8-bit mono Codec A/D and full 16-bit 44kHz stero D/A -- if all you want is good output this should suffice for most purposes. If you need better input, look out for people on csn.marketplace selling MetaResearch's Digital Ears or Singular Solutions' AD64x, both of which plug into the DSP port, and do "professional" A/D (e.g. the latter has AES/EBU i/o and supports up to 8 channels). You might also find an Ariel Digital Microphone, but this is clearly of more restricted use. I hope this helps, Best wishes, mmalc. -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!newsgate.compuserve.com!newsmaster From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MOUSE AND KEYBOARD INFO Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:57:49 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 6 Message-ID: <3316E45D.7EEB@gcomm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hd12-168.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) Recently I bought a Mono ADB Nextstation. The problem is that I am Spanish and the keyboad's keys are in US English. Does anybody knows if a Macintosh keyboard and mouse can be pluged in an ADB NextStation? Thanks in advance Amando Blasco #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:43:16 GMT Lines: 31 In article <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> writes: > Thinking about getting a turbo color slab to replace my mono slab.... > > 1) Will I need a new modem cable? How can I tell? (I know nothing > about it except that it works wonderfully with my non-turbo > slab) > Serial ports are identical (at least for my non-ADB) > 2) should I be able to remove the Quantum 105 from my mono slab and > put it in a new color-turb-slab? > Sure, but why waste the precious space with such an old piece of iron? > The printer will "just work" as I understand it (even though it is > B&W and the new NeXT would be color). > No difference. > Anything else I should know while considering this move? > Only the 21" screen will make you really happy. And 12 bit color graphics takes six times the memory for screen buffers than 2 bit greyscale. Fortunately the limit for memory upgrades is far less daunting. And since memory is cheap these days... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703030640.BAA03325@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: <97Feb27.141414-0700_mst.69977-1+46@chrome.psych.ualberta.ca> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Mon, 3 Mar 97 01:40:32 -0500 Subject: SUMMARY : Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Cc: jason@bifrostworks.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: <97Feb27.141414-0700_mst.69977-1+46@chrome.psych.ualberta.ca> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Next-Faq: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html X-Comment: Send me your NeXTStep/OpenStep URL! Lines: 79 Last week I posted my query for opinions about whether I should spend $750 on a 21" NeXTStation Turbo Color or put my $$ into an Intel system, indicating what I saw as the pros-and-cons of each. I got almost 40 responses (including a couple people who wrote more than once, etc). Since many responses began with "I'm in the same boat" I thought I would summarize the responses I received: There was a general consensus throughout on these points: NeXT made the best hardware That hardware is now outdated The Moosmann sale (see the 'marketplace' group) is really good, even to spend $750 on a 21" monitor would be good Intels are much better Rolling your own Intel ain't for the faint of heart There was some disagreement as to whether a color-turbo would seem faster or slower than a mono-non-turbo (the advantage being that the turbo could add more RAM.) ####################################################### Stay with NeXT/Get a New NeXT 7 (including 1 horror story of self-made Intel) ####################################################### Wait for Rhapsody (which I didn't list as an option, but several people mentioned) 8 (including 1 horror story of self-made Intel) ####################################################### Get a new Intel if you are going to spend any $$ on NS: 16 (including one who said to expect to spend $3000 for a machine to match the quality of a NeXTStation) What was a little surprising to me, was that 4 of the 16 "Intel" votes said "Get an Intel, and get it from Bifrost Workstations, Inc (http://www.bifrostworks.com/) because it will work "out of the box" like a NeXTStation, and they can design for a budget. People used phrases such as "extremely pleased with the 11 machines I've bought from them" and "excellent prices". That was a full 25% of the Intel-votes, and 10% of all the overall responses (including those who wrote me more than once). So there you have it. I emailed "info@bifrostworks.com" and got a response from "jason@bifrostworks.com" later that same day, and he's been working with me to see what we can do. (I'm going to be in NC next week, so I'll probably stop by to see James Moosmann, who has also been very helpful). I'm still not sure if we'll be able to pull it off, but I've been leaning toward the Intel side since we've been talking. So, for those who are looking a little longer-term, and looking towards the Intel's, I'd recommend Bifrost given the above testimonials and my own limited experience thus far. Thanks again for your comments and suggestions, folks! If you are looking for more info about NeXT hardware, the Moosmann sale, Bifrostworks and other NeXTStep/OpenStep companies, checkout my web pages (spotted with fresh blood sweat and tears ;-) http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ TjL ps -- in case it becomes important.... anyone interested in a mono-non-turbo station with 32RAM, 105 internal HD, printer (2nd toner about 2 months old), L-return keyboard, new Bus mouse&adaptor and "the good monitor"? I might have an unregistered *commercial* copy of 3.2 User/Dev for NeXT/Intel also. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 28 Feb 97 10:38:48 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.137 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Fri, Feb 28, 1997 1:29 AM, Charles William Swiger wrote: > > Hmm, I just took mine apart yesterday with a #10 Torx. > > Well, the two tools are roughly similar in size. > However, the NeXTtool shipped with the cube was a 3 mm Allen (hex) > wrench. > > -Chuck You know, Chuck, you are right. I actually opened the Cube in a fairly dark room and I couldn't see the screws real well but I assumed that they were Torx since that's what's used on Macs. I used a Torx screwdriver to open it (a #15 not a #10) and it worked just fine. I went back and looked at it with a flashlight last night. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!xfer.kren.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5f5vlb$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Date: 3 Mar 1997 22:49:51 GMT Control: cancel <5f5vlb$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Message-ID: Sender: (DogZ Software Center) X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970303.62. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970303.62.html for complete report. Original Subject: CorelDraw 7! only costs US$40?! Shopping Paradise #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Thomas Vincent Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sample Intel Setup Posted Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 20:07:57 -0800 Organization: SFbayrun Internet Lines: 29 Message-ID: <331BA01C.1F6C@sfbayrun.com> References: <5ffh9p$n00@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: info@sfbayrun.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bak-ca1-15.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Mar 03 10:06:48 PM CST 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, I saw the setup you did for Next on a Intel box. I was wondering, how much did it cost you? Do you run on top of Windows NT? Or can you actually run it on top of a Mach kernel on Intel hardware? TinYau Fung wrote: > > Hi, > I have created a little summary of what I just went through to > load NS3.3 onto an Intel setup. If you are curious to how difficult > it's to set it up or want to look for hints to build a good set up, > please look at : > > http://www-ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf/nsfip.html > > And thanks to the other people who have helped me to set my > machine up! -- Cheers, Thomas Vincent =============== SFbayrun Internet | Easiest Web Site Administration http://www.sfbayrun.com/snet/ | http://www.adgrafix.com/info/tvincent/ --------------------------------------------------------- National High School Cross Country & Track and Field Pages http://www.sfbayrun.com/scholar/ --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sesqui.net!uuneo.neosoft.com!news From: Buddy Cox Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:14:44 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <330B8964.5C50@ibm.net> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> <3317DBD3.5018@space.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.109.153.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Chi On Ao wrote: > > Thanks to all who have replied to my original post. I got a 3mm Hex > Wrench and opened the cube easily. > > However, in my attempt to upgrade the RAM, I have a hard time removing > exisiting SIMMs from the motherboard. It seemed too challenging for my > clumpsy fingers without some special tool. Could someone who have done > that give me some guidance here? Thank you! > > Chi On NeXT made a SIMM removal tool ... however, they are quite rare these days. Just visit your local hardware store and pick up a dental pick ... sounds strange but it is actually very similar. It has a 90 degree bend at the tip. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.radio.cz!CESspool!newsgate.cistron.nl!wirehub!server1.adam.ixe.net!news2.euro.net!news.euro.net!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 23:20:41 GMT Lines: 24 In article shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > > > The main problem (to my mind) with parity is that it doesn't do most > people one bit of good unless their OS has some sort of recovery > procedures. Without parity, if there's an error (and they are > generally infrequent), you never notice it. With parity, you can > potentially notice it - but if your operating system just crashes, or > perhaps crashes with a graceful message, it didn't really buy you > much. [Anyone know how NeXTSTEP handles parity errors?] > From what I deciphered from a recent test of PPro boards in the German C'T: some (but very few) boards are able to recover from simple memory errors automatically. What I have learned from NeXT classes: Banks want to have errors fixed automatically, or are willing to go for a complete system crash. They do not want errors propagating into their system (I can imagine why). Old black hardware, equipped with parity memory, will crash on a memory fault. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 04:55:46 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27631 comp.sys.next.misc:25275 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25639 In article , Michele Fuortes wrote: >Hi everybody, > >I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package >is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that >would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. > Your cube *will* run OPENSTEP for Mach 4.x. However, unless you have it stuffed full of RAM it will be slow. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!news.azstarnet.com!news From: neon@azstarnet.com (neon) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 06:58:34 GMT Organization: Starnet Lines: 38 Message-ID: <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> NNTP-Posting-Host: usr7ip51.azstarnet.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2770 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:136818 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88205 comp.sys.next.hardware:27632 I thought the 10 to 15% increase in speed was due to the intenal cache doubling in size from 16k to 32k. When apps are written for MMX then the speed increase will be even greater. AMD's version on MMX is supposed to double the cache again to 64k and should therefore have greater speed right out of the gate. On Mon, 03 Mar 1997 08:18:28 +0000, Lutz Heinrichs wrote: >>>> "Kenbug" == Ken Conlon writes: > >Kenbug> Hmm I have a MMX200 and it seems to be about 10 to 15 percent faster than >Kenbug> my non mmx 200.(actually a fact, ran winstone and winbench and wintune and >Kenbug> norton)...so id have to say your wrong...im waiting to see what happens >Kenbug> when they start coming out with some software for this thing.... > >[snip] > >Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not >much. A good rule is that when processor speed doubles then this is really >noticeable and brings you a good performance boost. >10 to 15% is not much; and MMX the way Intel did it is a hog... lets see >what AMD and Cyrix will throw on the market, I am sure at least AMD will >surprise everyone with the K6 performance, even on the MMX sector. > >I'd rather save the money for MMX, get a P200 without MMX and a Voodoo >based 3D card because this kicks MMX's ass in games. What else do you need >MMX for :) > >Lutz >-- >------------------------------------------------------------- >Lutz Heinrichs e-mail..: hansmuff@fireball.tng.oche.de >Aachen, Germany voice...: +49 2408 5544 > fax.....: +49 2408 5543 > > Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.68.191.16!news.accessone.com!news1.cstone.net!newsfeed.slip.net!owl.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5eog4c$9hv@slip.net> Control: cancel <5eog4c$9hv@slip.net> Date: 3 Mar 1997 21:55:29 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5fgdgh$j2b@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net <5eog4c$9hv@slip.net> was cancelled from within trn. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5fghh9$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:20:13 GMT Control: cancel <5fghh9$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sender: 38433@ix3384.net X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 2 Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: NUDECELEBS Original Subject: Want 10000 nude celebrities!!? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!mfs-annex1-p5.dsphere.net!user From: akim@cogent.net (Andrew Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MEMORY LIMITATION Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:37:10 GMT Organization: Cogent Software Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p5.dsphere.net I have NeXTstation color unit and have 32MB. What is maximum memory limitation of this unit? I would like to increase more memory, can I ? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!aplcen.apl.jhu.edu!night.primate.wisc.edu!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Simon Karpen Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.solaris.x86,comp.sys.next.hardware,compunix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: PC vendors for PCs to run Unix (Linux, Solaris, etc.) Date: 02 Mar 1997 18:46:18 -0500 Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <5fcm4h$a7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: karpes.stu.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.12/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:72370 alt.solaris.x86:1570 comp.sys.next.hardware:27634 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:10840 I have heard nothing but good things about Net Express http://www.tdl.com/~netex/ They seem to specialize in setting up x86 workstations to run various flavors of Unix, including Linux and Solaris. Don't know about OpenStep/Mach, but they've probably got some experience with it too. -- Simon Karpen karpes@rpi.edu, slk@acm.rpi.edu, slk@karpes.stu.rpi.edu "Down, not Across" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!sun4nl!Inter.NL.net!sci.kun.nl!not-for-mail From: pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 4 Mar 1997 16:19:48 +0100 Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5fheik$lcr@pion.sci.kun.nl> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> Reply-To: "NO JUNK MAIL!" NNTP-Posting-Host: pion.sci.kun.nl X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #7 (NOV) Lines: 12 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2775 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:136872 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88241 comp.sys.next.hardware:27635 Lutz Heinrichs writes: >Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not >much. [...] I'd rather save the money for MMX, get a P200 without MMX [...] And in doing so would manage to spend more money on a slower processor. The P166MMX would've been a better buy. - Peter -- pieterh@sci.kun.nl http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!208.192.165.2!news.quicklink.com!usenet From: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT Color Printer Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 15:32:24 GMT Organization: Internet QuickLink, Corp. (212) 307-1669 Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5fhfmb$lmd@news.quicklink.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-025.quicklink.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I have a NeXT Color Printer if you are interested. joel@quicklink.com tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: >Let me know what you have. >Thomas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5fha9f$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Date: 4 Mar 1997 15:44:15 GMT Control: cancel <5fha9f$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sender: poeiru@eqqs.com X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 2 Spam cancelled. 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(212) 307-1669 Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5fhfbj$lmd@news.quicklink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-025.quicklink.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Best Offer NeXT: NeXT laser printers NeXT color printer NeXT Stations 16mb ram, 100mb HD, OS 3.2 or 3.3 17" NeXT monitors MAC: MAC monitors, Radius TPD19 & 21" MAC classic, classicII, Plus, SE/30...... 386 and 486 intel Pcs, Unisys & Dell VGA Mono display joel@quicklink.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!208.192.165.2!news.quicklink.com!usenet From: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 15:41:24 GMT Organization: Internet QuickLink, Corp. (212) 307-1669 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-025.quicklink.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I would like to run my NeXTstation with out a monitor. Is this possible? What do I need to do? When I took off the monitor after it booted up, it would shut down over night. They also shut down if I connect the monitor while still running. Thanks for any help.... joel@quicklink.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!ames!night.primate.wisc.edu!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: 3 Mar 1997 19:50:44 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5ffa2k$m52@usenet.rpi.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) wrote: > I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in > trying out the NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a > PowerMac 8500/180 with a DOS compatibility card? It is not likely that this will work, not with NeXTSTEP releases up to 4.1 at least. Perhaps Apple is looking into this for a NS-4.2 release. On the other hand, I'm not all that sure you would be thrilled with the results, not unless the compatability card is a high-end pentium and you have a lot of RAM on it. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!207.76.102.250!newman.pcisys.net!news From: advertise@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BYTEWARE CAFE'S SPECIALS 2.1gb QUANTUM SCSI - US$278, 32M EDO 60ns - US$169 Date: 4 Mar 1997 16:42:03 GMT Organization: http://www.bytewarecafe.com Lines: 66 Message-ID: <5fhjcr$ks2@newman.pcisys.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.76.102.212 Summary: CD-ROM DRIVES, FAX/MODEM DRIVES, HARD DRIVES, MEMORY, NETWORK CARDS, SCANNER, VIDEO CARDS. 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March 4, 1997 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail From: kykim@access1.digex.net (Kevin Yungsun Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NSi 3.3 and laptops Date: 4 Mar 1997 13:12:50 -0500 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <5fhon2$8hq@access1.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: access1.digex.net Summary: what PCMCIA SCSI controllers work Lines: 13 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27642 comp.sys.next.misc:25279 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25652 Hi all, I want to install NeXTStep 3.3 on my toshiba laptop. Looking around on the NeXT web site, I found that the only PCMCIA SCSI card supported it the Adaptec. I was wondering if anyone out ther has (1) tried this (2) found another PCMCIA SCSI card to work. Thanks, -kevin kykim@access.digex.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!noc.van.hookup.net!not-for-mail From: ian@peacesummit.com (Ian Upright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MIDI and Sound questions Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 11:14:27 -0800 Organization: Peace Summit Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <331e744f.25319126@news.jumppoint.com> Reply-To: ian@peacesummit.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.194.71.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.371 Lines: 11 Do any Mac MIDI interfaces work on black boxes? Whats the best way to get a MIDI adapter for NeXT? Where do a get a DSP memory expansion to 128k? Thanks, Ian ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peace Summit Technologies ian@peacesummit.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.peacesummit.com/ian/home.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!not-for-mail From: Christoph Stratmann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Blackbox boot problem Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 20:23:13 +0100 Organization: ART+COM GmbH Lines: 14 Message-ID: <331C76A0.6AF3@artcom.de> Reply-To: strat@artcom.de NNTP-Posting-Host: artcom.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) I`d like to boot my NeXT-Colorstaion from Floppy. I have an original NeXT-Step 3.3 for Motorola. The first time after power on I get the message "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000374" Each next try aborts with "Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x4380012" All boot commands (like: b fd()fdmach, b fd, b fd(), b fd(0,0,0)) results in this Exception. An new boot image brought the same error. If I try a floppy without anything on it, i get a message, that label is not correct etc. So, what is the problem, how to boot from floppy? A. Steinhauser, steini@artcom.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experiences with APC or Tripplite UPS ??? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:45:02 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <199702260411.XAA04646@peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: po8.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <199702260411.XAA04646@peak.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-Feb-97 Experiences with APC or Tri.. by Timothy J Luoma@peak.org > I am wondering if anyone out there has experience with APC's > "Smart-UPS Net 450" (not the Smart-UPS v/s) or TrippLite's > "OMNISMART 280". (Or any experience with either company's UPS). > > I'm a UPS-newbie, so I don't know much about what to look for. > Right now all I know is that one is a lot cheaper than the other, > but I know the APC has user-replaceable batteries, while I don't > know that about TrippLite one way or the other. User-replaceable batteries are a nice feature _if_ you're actually going to get and use spare batteries, but home users generally don't need it. I've got Tripplite's BC Internet 450VA UPS, and I've been entirely satisfied with the product. I've never had my computer panic or otherwise go down due to power problems, and I've had power go down for several seconds on a few occasions. On the other hand, I've also got a bunch of APC equipment like their surge suppressors, and I believe that APC makes the best power handling equipment available. Tripplite makes solid, dependable products that sometimes cost a little less, but APC provides the best products available for the money. I don't think you'll be dissatisfied with either company. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.sgi.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Date: 4 Mar 97 12:02:08 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-9-9.access.one.net In-reply-to: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM's message of 3 Mar 1997 23:40:25 GMT In article <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com>, MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) writes: Gerasimos Melissaratos writes > Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or > P-PROs)??? Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) Sigh. So, I've recently noticed that you can get a dual PPro motherboard with 2 150Mhz PPros for something on the order of $800. I've also noticed that my Pentium 133, though likeable at first, is becoming less likeable as time goes by. Being the bottom feeder I am, I was thinking I could get the cheap dual-PPro system, take advantage of the "dual" part under Linux and NT, and later upgrade to faster CPUs when their price comes down (it looks like today's PPros will stick around until the end of the year, after all). So, now I'm left wondering about whether I could take advantage of the "dual" under OpenStep/Mach 4.x. Talk about crap shoot time :-). Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!van-bc!news.islandnet.com!not-for-mail From: "Dale Friesen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: 4 Mar 97 13:23:25 -0800 Organization: Island Net on Vancouver Island B.C. Canada Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: i3-34.islandnet.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/1.2 X-News-Servers: news.islandnet.com X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.islandnet.com/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.islandnet.com/comp.sys.next.misc Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27647 comp.sys.next.misc:25282 :Hi everybody, : :I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package :is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that :would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. : :So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my :Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have :the Best of Both World ;-) : :Is it feasible? Does anybody have any experience with it? :I don't see intrinsic limitations. :I REALLY don't want to buy a Pentium box just for it (with memory, HD, :monitor etc.etc) :I don't care if it would be a little slow on a 486 card and I don't want :to wait for Rhapsody DR. : :Any ideas? : :Thanks a lot : Along the same lines, I'm going to need a Mac some time in the next few months that will be able to run DOS apps after I drop Rhapsody on it. Should I get a PowerMac with a DOS card and hope the latter still runs under Rhapsody? Should I get a Pentium and hope Rhapsody's ported to it? I need a good computer now (any computer) but by mid-1998 it will need to be both NeXT and DOS compatible. Thanks for any input. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!bznews.apple.com!nntp1.apple.com!news From: George Rath Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Computer Hardware, SOFT PRICES!! :-(((( Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:22:30 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <331CA0A6.6AEA@apple.com> References: <01bc2813$b65143c0$5a1e31c6@webgod> NNTP-Posting-Host: macip-ara-26.apple.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Lines: 36 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27648 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16631 National Liquidators wrote: > > National Liquidators, Inc. > 417 142nd Street > South Sioux City, NE 68776 > Phone (402)-494-3018 > Fax (402)-494-4061 > From: Scott Abraham ext.202 > > Here is a list of our Current Liquidation's: > .... snip.... (a long list of computer parts follows, with so-so prices) > page!! > > National Liquidator's has been in business for 2 years doing computer > parts liquidation's from major OEM's. Our main line of business has been > selling to wholesalers and retailers. Our buying philosophy is simple: > buy in bulk, get a good discount, and pass it on! Unless otherwise > specified, product sold is considered used/like new. We offer a 90 day > warranty on our product, in addition to any manufacturer warranty. Gimme a break! These prices are on pair with our local/ next door Fry's/ CompUSA/Computer City and so on. And I have money back policy, I see what I buy and I get the stuff on the spot (don't need to wait). Since the ad is from a Liquidator - I can imagine these guys FAT profits on all that. BTW: is it really a great virtue to be in the business just for two years? Sorry to bitch on them - I don't know these people, but as I see their so- called "soft" prices, I am NOT a potentional customer of them. Their post has NOTHING to do with NeXT/Rapsody/etc. etc. so it is just an other spam. 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Reason: nude cd-rom spam #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!news.stealth.net!newsfeed.de.ibm.net!ibm.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news.prtc.net!news From: "Lou" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 5 Mar 1997 03:02:04 GMT Organization: Puerto Rico Telephone Company Lines: 15 Message-ID: <01bc2909$62935b00$134592cc@lforest> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.146.69.19 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2780 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:136951 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88309 comp.sys.next.hardware:27651 Well, all cache gains are governed by the law of diminishing gain. In fact, there is a point where a large cache will actually slow down the system because of the time searching through the cache memory. I don't think that'll be the case of the AMD MMX although if the trend of advertising cache size continues, the CPU makers might be tempted to put in a bigger cache when they know that it won't make a difference. neon wrote in article <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com>... > I thought the 10 to 15% increase in speed was due to the intenal cache > doubling in size from 16k to 32k. When apps are written for MMX then > the speed increase will be even greater. AMD's version on MMX is > supposed to double the cache again to 64k and should therefore have > greater speed right out of the gate. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!EU.net!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5fhjcq$ks2@newman.pcisys.net> Date: 5 Mar 1997 02:18:51 GMT Control: cancel <5fhjcq$ks2@newman.pcisys.net> Message-ID: Sender: advertise@bytewarecafe.com X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970305.11. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970305.11.html for complete report. 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Original Subject: BYTEWARE CAFE'S SPECIALS 2.1gb QUANTUM SCSI - US$278, 32M EDO 60ns - US$169 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!insync!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MIDI and Sound questions Date: 5 Mar 1997 03:03:05 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5finp9$1asc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <331e744f.25319126@news.jumppoint.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Ian Upright (ian@peacesummit.com) wrote: : Do any Mac MIDI interfaces work on black boxes? Whats the best way to get a : MIDI adapter for NeXT? This was the question I was about to ask.... ;-> (Specifically I would like a 2 port adapter for use with Sequence.) : Where do a get a DSP memory expansion to 128k? What is the benefit of added DSP memory? (If I dont intend to do any programming my self.) Thanks Geof : Thanks, Ian : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Peace Summit Technologies ian@peacesummit.com : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- : http://www.peacesummit.com/ian/home.html -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.albany.net!news.sover.net!news From: jrthomas@sover.net (J. Ryan Thomas) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 03:47:10 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <331cec0b.12909040@news.sover.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <5fheik$lcr@pion.sci.kun.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm0a11.sta.sover.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Lines: 16 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2784 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:136992 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88342 comp.sys.next.hardware:27653 I'm sure this has already been hashed over endless times, but I haven't kep up with this NG for a while. I currently own a Triton MB with a P133 chip on it, and am considering upgrading to the 200 MMX chip. Is this as painless as it seems, just replace the old with the new, or is the voltage difference a problem? Basically, what do I need to do? Thanks in advance. Ryan J. Ryan Thomas University of Vermont Department of Sociology jrthomas@sover.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!not-for-mail From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MIDI and Sound questions Date: 5 Mar 1997 07:28:19 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5fj7aj$98u$1@news.xmission.com> References: <331e744f.25319126@news.jumppoint.com> <5finp9$1asc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Reply-To: don@globalobjects.com NNTP-Posting-Host: brain.misckit.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) wrote: > Ian Upright (ian@peacesummit.com) wrote: > : Do any Mac MIDI interfaces work on black boxes? Whats the best way to get a > : MIDI adapter for NeXT? > This was the question I was about to ask.... ;-> > (Specifically I would like a 2 port adapter for use with Sequence.) Well I know the Opcode MIDI translator is supposed to work with NEXTSTEP if you make up the right cable for it (between the box and the serial port). I think the Studio 5 (is that right) also worked OK, and Ralph Zazula had made a special app to let you mess with the interface's settings. In fact, I suspect to get any Mac interface to work, the cable is the critical thing. I think the ftp archive has the diagram of how to wire the cable, so look there. (I don't have it handy or I'd mail it to you; the best I can do is tell you it exists, so don't give up hope... :-) ) [ Note: I tried to get the MIDI Translator working, but never managed to get the cable right. Probably my fault, and I wasn't using the diagram that later appeared in the archives--had I had that I probably would have got it working OK. (That's kind of embarassing since I have an MS in EE and my senior project has a 6502-based MIDI savvy stage lighting controller which was way cool...with a CPU faster than the Apple //e I used to burn the program ROMs. :-) ) ] There also is/was a MIDI interface designed specifically for the NeXT which came in two models, one with two parallel MIDI outs (ie, same data on both) and one MIDI in ("MIDI Link") and with one out and two merging ins ("MIDI Link+"). They were made by Quest Inc. and came with the necessary cable. I have the MIDI Link+ (Drum machine hooks to one in for timing, master keyboard to another in for playing and the out goes to my five synths, which are chained together). It has worked well for me. :-) Unfortunately, I don't think they are around anymore. :-( -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com My home page #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!cdc2.cdc.net!news.stealth.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703041731.MAA02533@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Tue, 4 Mar 97 12:30:45 -0500 Subject: Has anyone used NEC 17+ or Samsung SyncMaster 6NE? Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Lines: 20 I my quest for an Intel, I have been looking at two monitors: NEC 17+ Samsung SyncMaster 6NE Can anyone tell me of their experiences with either of these monitors? One of them (I can't remember which) has a 60MHZ refersh rate. I understand the NeXTstation I have is 68MHz. Is this a big difference? Will it be annoying on a color machine? If so, what is the minimum refresh rate I should look for (keeping price in mind)? Thanks TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP Site Newly revised and enhanced NeXTStep/OpenStep resources page, over 300 NeXTStep/OpenStep/Rhapsody related links. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!142.77.1.4!news.uunet.ca!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!supernews!usenet From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ELSA 1000 PRO / ELSA 2000 AVI under OpenStep 4.1 Date: 5 Mar 1997 09:42:25 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5fjf61$h9m@supernews.login.net> References: <5ff5dl$34p$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: a107.dynamic-ip.mlink.net In-Reply-To: <5ff5dl$34p$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00121-01 Lines: 30 I'm using an Elsa Winner 2000 Pro/X on NS 3.3 and it works flawlessly. Dunno about OS4.1 though you might want to check out Elsa's web site at: http://www.elsa.com/ If you can't find your answer there, I suggest you try the German NS/OS News Groups where Elsa products are often discussed. Cheers, Andre ========================== On 03/03/97, Stefan Boehringer wrote: > # is anybody out there running a > # ELSA 10000 PRO or ELSA 2000 AVI > # > # under OpenStep 4.1? If yes, where do I get the drivers. > # I found a driver for the ELSA 1000 Pro on the ELSA-CD > # Version 1.2A, but this driver was not working (black or > # flimmering screen). > # Can anybody help me? > # Thanks in advance! > > me too! > > - Stefan > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!132.175.109.6!news.sandia.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!news From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: 5 Mar 1997 08:38:00 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5fjbd8$6pb@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: Reply-To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: paul@spectrum.slu.edu In Paul J. Sanchez wrote: > The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT > printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't > tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? > > You need the HP 92295A toner cartridge. See http://hpcc997.external.hp.com/cposupport/printers/support_doc/BPL01008.html -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Malfunctioning Megapixel - repair? Date: 5 Mar 1997 14:57:01 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 29 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fktnt$sc@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> Reply-To: mpaque@wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: octans12.wco.com In article <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> jon@steeldriving.com (Jonathan W. Hendry) writes: > The machine (a cube) failed the sound check on boot. I could > get around that and get the machine to boot. Once booted, > the machine would lock up completely. I later noticed this was > happening when it tried to play a sound (and probably at > > Another monitor works fine. Swapping mouse & keyboard didn't > help. I'm assuming the sound hardware in the monitor is shot > somehow. It's the sound card, located in the rear of the monitor. It sounds like the little DMA chip that handles the monitor sound has died. It's also possible for a single open line in the cable between the cube and monitor to cause the problem. If, in your case, the original cable worked with the other monitor, that isn't the problem. Swapping the board for a working one should correct the problem. Be careful. High voltage parts in there can hold a charge for a long time after the monitor is switched off. The same cards are used in both the sound boxes and monitors. You just need the kind that works with your keyboard (ADB or non-ADB. The keyboard connectors and wiring are different between the two.) -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: abc@rex.precipice.com (Alex Cone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Using DLT (Digital Linear Tape) drives from Mach Date: 6 Mar 1997 03:28:37 GMT Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5fldl5$re@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Reply-To: abc@precipice.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.204.99.98 Keywords: DLT Tape Backup Mach Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27659 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25686 Hi All - We've recently outstripped even our DAT drives for backups. DLT drives offer 20-40GB of backup capacity and are very fast to boot. I've seen these run using Legato on Suns but I was wondering if something simple (and free) like dump and mt work with DLTs. Best of all would be if my network backup scripts running on the old DAT drive just continue to work. Has anyone had experience using DLT drives connected to a machine running Mach (intel or moto)? (email me as I don't always watch this list...) Alex Cone Objective Technologies, Inc. Thoughtport Software & Consulting abc@thoughtport.net #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Why isn't my optical drive operating correctly? Message-ID: <1997Mar4.193122.529@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: root@localhost Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:31:22 GMT Lines: 18 In <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Charlie Root wrote: > The optical drive inside my NeXTcube isn't operating correctly it > appears. The console screen displays the following message when an > optical disk is inserted in the drive: > > od0?: write re-spin (laser power failed) ... > > This is obviously not a good sign. Is there any way to easily repair > the drive (I am an electrical engineer), or am I going to have to > accept the sad fact that it should be put to rest and buy a > replacement? Yes, this is a common sign of a soon and sudden end of the OD. You can replace the laser if you can find one, some older ODs have mechanical problems and a thus working laser. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Good config choices Message-ID: <1997Mar4.192658.468@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: shess@one.net Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <5f514k$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5f5gq9$9d2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:26:58 GMT Lines: 12 In Scott Hess wrote: > > Also be certain to get a decent board. I got an ASUS, wonderful > board. No-name clones are death. > I just got a Gigabyte HX board. It's a bit cheaper than the ASUS, but also good value and even a little faster. It has 6 memory banks compared to the common 4 banks on other boards. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!207.76.102.250!newman.pcisys.net!news From: advertise@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BYTEWARE CAFE'S SPECIALS 2.1gb QUANTUM SCSI - US$278, 32M EDO 60ns - US$172 Date: 5 Mar 1997 19:41:39 GMT Organization: http://www.bytewarecafe.com Lines: 63 Message-ID: <5fki9j$1h1@newman.pcisys.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.76.102.212 Summary: CD-ROM DRIVES, FAX/MODEM DRIVES, HARD DRIVES, MEMORY, NETWORK CARDS, SCANNER, VIDEO CARDS. Keywords: CD-ROM DRIVES, FAX/MODEM DRIVES, HARD DRIVES, MEMORY, NETWORK CARDS, SCANNER, VIDEO CARDS. 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Matrox millenium 2MB WRAM upgradable to 4MB WRAM - 193 We also carry CPU's, Cases, Floppy Drives, Tape Drives, Speakers, Contoller Cards, IO Cards, Sound Cards, Monitors, Video Cards, Keyboards, Mice and and Software. Just go to our site http://www.bytewarecafe.com and fill out the necessary information about yourself and your credit card information. Goto the products list and choose the category you are interested in. From this panel, choose the item you want. If you wish to browse the other hardware categories, feel free to browse for as long as you wish. If you wish to buy anything else, just select that item from that category. If you are satisfied with your selection(s) and your personal information is correct, click on the submit order button. The bytewarecafe.com server will respond with an order number and a time stamp. You will need these two numbers for any future correspondences with bytewarecafe.com Your order will be prepared and delivered to most US locations in 3-4 business days. For International order we will contact you with details. Thank you. Prices are subject to change without notice. March 5, 1997 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!207.76.102.250!newman.pcisys.net!news From: advertise@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BYTEWARE CAFE'S SPECIALS 2.1gb QUANTUM SCSI - US$278, 32M EDO 60ns - US$172 Date: 5 Mar 1997 19:41:38 GMT Organization: http://www.bytewarecafe.com Lines: 63 Message-ID: <5fki9i$1h1@newman.pcisys.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.76.102.212 Summary: CD-ROM DRIVES, FAX/MODEM DRIVES, HARD DRIVES, MEMORY, NETWORK CARDS, SCANNER, VIDEO CARDS. Keywords: CD-ROM DRIVES, FAX/MODEM DRIVES, HARD DRIVES, MEMORY, NETWORK CARDS, SCANNER, VIDEO CARDS. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] We accept MC/VISA/AMEX - NO SURCHARGE! For a very limited time, our advertising specials are : (in US dollars) THE 32MEG EDO 60NS 72PIN SIMM 8x32 IS ONLY 172....order them while they last! CD-ROM DRIVES 1. GOLDSTAR 8x IDE - 100 2. MITSUMI 8x IDE - 110 FAX/MODEM CARDS 1. ACER 33.6 internal with voice - 93 HARD DRIVES 1. 1.08 GB IDE QUANTUM - 195 2. 1.7 GB IDE SEAGATE - 220 3. 2.0 GB IDE SEAGATE - 241 NETWORK CARDS 1. 3COM ISA TPO 75 2. 3COM PCI TPO 100 3. 3COM PCI 100BaseT TPO - 120 MEMORY 1. 32 MB EDO 60ns - 172 2. 16 MB EDO 60ns - 93 3. 30pin 4MB 4X3 - 43 SCANNER 1. ACER 300F flat bed 24bit color - 264 VIDEO CARDS 1. Trident 1MB PCI 64 MPEG upgradable 9680 - 40 2. ATI 1MB PCI wincharger 64 DRAM - 70 3. Diamond 1MB PCI stealth 64 DRAM - 85 4. Matrox millenium 2MB WRAM upgradable to 4MB WRAM - 193 We also carry CPU's, Cases, Floppy Drives, Tape Drives, Speakers, Contoller Cards, IO Cards, Sound Cards, Monitors, Video Cards, Keyboards, Mice and and Software. Just go to our site http://www.bytewarecafe.com and fill out the necessary information about yourself and your credit card information. Goto the products list and choose the category you are interested in. From this panel, choose the item you want. If you wish to browse the other hardware categories, feel free to browse for as long as you wish. If you wish to buy anything else, just select that item from that category. If you are satisfied with your selection(s) and your personal information is correct, click on the submit order button. The bytewarecafe.com server will respond with an order number and a time stamp. You will need these two numbers for any future correspondences with bytewarecafe.com Your order will be prepared and delivered to most US locations in 3-4 business days. For International order we will contact you with details. Thank you. Prices are subject to change without notice. March 5, 1997 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: cybobob@mindspring.com (CyboBob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Toshiba 8x not found During OpenStep 4.1 Install Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 01:45:17 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 20 Message-ID: <331e1f33.3561694@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip113.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 6 Mar 1997 01:45:24 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.381 I have a Toshiba 8x cdrom which is ATAPI 1.2. The problem is that after I choose "EIDE and ATAPI" for both my hard disk and cd-rom, then choose "Continue Installation", the next window I see says Nextstep Mach for Intel (something like that). It looks like OpenStep is looking for my drives and stuff, and I guess will then mount my cd-rom (correct?). Anyway, after I see that OpenStep found my hard disk. After some other messages, it says it could not find my cd-rom. A prompt asks me what the root is. Above it is the following: use sd%d hd%d etc. So I figured it wants me to tell it where the cd-rom is (doesn't say anything about this in the Installation manual). I type hd0b, I'm pretty sure this is right. Then after a few screens scroll by, I am informed that it cannot mount the root, and I have to reboot. I would really appreciate your help. Thanks very much. Nick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!si-nic!usenet From: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Mðllney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS/MACH/iNTEL Speed comparison Date: 6 Mar 1997 09:49:54 GMT Organization: Uni Siegen Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5fm402$5bk@si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de> Reply-To: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Mðllney) NNTP-Posting-Host: simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Hi! I'm interested in OS/MACH/iNTEL speed comparison. A comparison between some new intel-cpu s was published in c't magazine (german mag) BAPCo32 WinNT 4.0: Pent200 - 169 = 100% Pent200MMX - 195 = 115% PPro200 - 228 =135% klamath - 234 = 139% Now I'm interested in some benchmarks with OS/MACH/intel Before sending in results, we should have comparable benchmark programs So, 1. what benchmarks should be considered ? 2. what data should be send along the benchmark result (CPU,MHZ,Board,RAM-type,graphic-card...)? 3. which CPU's should be tested (Pent,pentPRO, AMD, intel/cyrix,...) should we compare with OS/NT and OS/solaris? are there any benchmarks for OPENSTEP? Please send me your Ideas about the benchmark-test-organization e-mail: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de I will then setup a www-page with the benchmark-rules and programs. when the benchmark results come in I will present them on the same page. What do you think about this? bye, Michael -- Michael Moellney Paul-Bonatz-Straûe 9-11, Raum 426/2 57068 Siegen Tel: +49-271-740-4724 moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ycc.yale.edu!yar.trincoll.edu!news From: "Neal A. Schneider" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HW Engineering Employment Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 00:06:56 -0500 Organization: Trinity College, Hartford CT Lines: 128 Message-ID: <331E50F0.5D98@mail.cc.trincoll.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dy102-253.xc.trincoll.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) Hello, my name is Neal Schneider and I am searching for employment in in the field of hardware engineering around the bay area. I will be graduating with honors in computer engineering this May from Trinity College, and am looking for a small company environment to enable my skills and experience to promote growth and success. I am a very bright, creative and eager individual with a strong background in both hardware and software engineering. I have gained experience within the industry, comfortably fitting into a team of hardware engineers at Cisco Systems last summer. My main purpose for posting this on the newsgroups is that I will be visiting the bay area from March 21-31 and would like to set up any interviews for employment. I have included my resume and a letter further explaining my background. I can be reached at neal.schneider@mail.cc.trincoll.edu or (860)297-3154. Thank you. Any assistance would be appreciated. Sincerely, Neal A. Schneider resume: Neal A. Schneider 701963 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 neal.schneider@mail.cc.trincoll.edu 860/297-3154 OBJECTIVE To find employment in the field of hardware engineering that will allow me to utilize and further develop my skills designing integrated circuits. EDUCATION Trinity College B.S. in Computer Engineering, expected graduation 1997 3.83 GPA(in major) 3.42 cumulative GPA Honors in Engineering/Dean's List Relevant Course work *Microprocessors *Micro-optielectronics *Digital Signal Processing *Digital Circuits and Systems *Semiconductor Electronics and VLSI Design *Machine Organization and Assembly Language *Feedback Control Theory *Linear Systems EXPERIENCE Cisco Systems, Chelmsford MA Internship in Hardware Engineering: May 1996 to August 1996 *Advanced multiple network-based projects in conjunction with a hardware engineering team *Quickly assimilated software/hardware applications and company methodology *Communicated with various departments in order to expedite production *Solved many design problems independently Trinity College, Hartford CT Senior Project: May 1996 to Present *Invented a new network protocol, its device drivers, and the governing software *Utilized the www in order to make connections in fields relating to microprocessor networking *Received funding from the Connecticut Space Consortium in the form of a NASA scholarship Independent Study: January 1995 to January 1996 *Self-taught VHDL by researching books and analyzing IC projects from other schools *Followed intensive tutorials in order to learn and utilize multiple VHDL compilers *Designed, programmed, and tested FPGA's successfully as a member of a team of engineers working on the Trinity College/ Connecticut National Robot Competition Teaching Assistant: August 1995 to present *Supervised multiple final group projects involving integrated circuits *Assisted professor in the development of the lab curriculum. *Tutored individual students on course material Resident Assistant: August 1994 - January 1995 *Strived to create a sense of community between 25 freshmen *Served as a role model and advisor *Resolved interpersonal problems swiftly under critical circumstances SPECIFIC COMPUTER SKILLS *Verilog, VHDL, Microsoft C, C++, AHDL, ASM, PCbug11, Spice *Synopsis synthesis tools,Concept, Max Plus II, VHDL write, Design Architect, Accusim, Signalscan, EPOCH, B^2 Logic *UNIX, X-Windows, MS-DOS,Win 95,Mentor Graphics, Sun OS, Mac OS *References available on request In May of 1997, I will be graduating with honors in computer engineering from Trinity College. Over the past four years, Trinity has given me the opportunity to utilize its excellent engineering facility for academic work as well as independent research in circuit design. I have studied hardware description languages such as VHDL and Verilog as well as IC design applications (e.g. Max Plus II) in order to build up my background in the field. My senior project, which is funded through a grant from NASA, is a culmination of much of my academic knowledge to date. In designing a modular robotics controller, I have developed my own network protocol and software in order to implement a generalized distributed network of microcontrollers and other analog and digital peripheral devices. In order to accomplish this project, I have researched and learned about interprocessor communication, signal processing, general network standards, and more programming than I ever imagined. The majority of my engineering experience, however, was gained during my employment last summer at the Cisco System's Core East ATM division. I was fortunate because my supervisor allowed me to participate in many aspects of the division. This opportunity allowed me to absorb as much knowledge about the industry as possible. I assisted the design team at many levels of production, from top down level design to programming, simulation, synthesis, lay-out and testing. I believe that my success at Cisco stemmed from my ability to assimilate new ideas, methodology and applications very quickly. But more importantly I was able to work with many different individuals and communicate my problems in a coherent manner. These skills and experience I possess would help me fit into a new company environment, and that is why I would be confident joining a team of engineers at your company. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!amd!canntp.amd.com!txnntp.amd.com!news2.amd.com!uuneo.neosoft.com!news.blkbox.COM!news From: jmcnamar@onramp.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the latest lowdown on PPro MBs, Video, & OPENSTEP. Date: 5 Mar 1997 06:11:35 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5fj2qn$o7r@news.blkbox.com> References: <5fcvh4$f2g@news4.digex.net> Reply-To: jmcnamar@onramp.net NNTP-Posting-Host: brubeck.bifrostworks.com In article <5fcvh4$f2g@news4.digex.net> John Kheit writes: +So I gues Question #2 is, are there any +video cards (other than the 8Mb VRAM #9 Imagine 128) that will +support multiple monitors at a resolution of 1600X1200@24bpp (it +would be an added bonus if the card had 3D acceleration of some +sort) under OPENSTEP? The 8MB cards from Elsa: * support mulitple monitors Elsa was the first to offer this for NS/Intel. We've done three monitors on a system at once, and four are possible. * support 24-bit 1600x1200 @ 83Hz you also get intermediate resolutions like 1536x1152 and 1408x1024, and even 1120x832. * have stable driver support Elsa writes their own drivers, and doesn't mix & match their chips. The last time a rev was required was 9 months ago. When Elsa introduced their 8MB cards, the NEXTSTEP drivers were available BEFORE the DOS drivers. No waiting on NeXT to re-tweak a driver for a new rev of video card. What's the Swedish line in your .sig, anyway? Jason -- Jason McNamara / jason@bifrostworks.com (NeXTMail encouraged!) This post does in fact represent the views of Bifrost Workstations. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!isar.de!GIMLI.genias.de!dali!news From: frank@OneVision.de (Frank Pohl) Subject: Re: Best notebook for 3.2 Intel? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: davinci Message-ID: Sender: news@onevision.de Reply-To: frank@OneVision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:11:44 GMT Lines: 20 In comp.sys.next.hardware article <9703031826.AA11021@thoon.think.com> Jessica Mosher wrote: > Subject says it all--could someone mail me suggestions for the > best make/model of a pentium or i486 notebook, with color, for NS > 3.2? "Best" is defined as: > > --installs without any problems > --good manufacturer warranty and support > --good active matrix color screen > > It would be nice, although certainly very secondary, if this notebook > was black colored. > > Price, for now, is no object. If there's a web site somewhere, pleasse > feel free to send me its address. We have/use a Thoshiba Tegra 37CDT with/for OPENSTEP and Win95. A grandiose machine. Frank #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail Date: 6 Mar 1997 09:42:45 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: Control: cancel <5fki9j$1h1@newman.pcisys.net> X-No-Archive: Yes From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: advertise@bytewarecafe.com Subject: cmsg cancel <5fki9j$1h1@newman.pcisys.net> Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-By: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Lines: 3 EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970306.06 for further details #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail Date: 6 Mar 1997 09:42:45 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: Control: cancel <5fki9i$1h1@newman.pcisys.net> X-No-Archive: Yes From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: advertise@bytewarecafe.com Subject: cmsg cancel <5fki9i$1h1@newman.pcisys.net> Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-By: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Lines: 3 EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970306.06 for further details #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!sun4nl!Inter.NL.net!sci.kun.nl!not-for-mail From: pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:33:46 +0100 Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5fmo4q$drm@lambda.sci.kun.nl> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com> <01bc2909$62935b00$134592cc@lforest> Reply-To: "NO JUNK MAIL!" NNTP-Posting-Host: lambda.sci.kun.nl X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #7 (NOV) Lines: 21 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2803 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:137277 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88492 comp.sys.next.hardware:27670 "Lou" writes: >Well, all cache gains are governed by the law of diminishing gain. In fact, >there is a point where a large cache will actually slow down the system >because of the time searching through the cache memory. Absolutely not... in an n-way set associative cache the search time is determined by n and unrelated to the cache size. n-way means that each memory address can be associated with n cache addresses. Most L2 caches are direct mapped (n=1, so "searching" is hardly the word here); CPU caches, I think, usually 2- or 4-way associative. What you're thinking of are software disk caches, where information can be stored anywhere in the cache... in that case, search time will be either linear or logarithmic with the cache size (depending on the algorithms used). - Peter -- pieterh@sci.kun.nl http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!news.sfasu.edu!lipschitz!deviate From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Swapping a Quantum for Maxtor in a Black Cube Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:48:19 -0600 X-Sender: deviate@lipschitz Organization: As little as I can get away with... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 11 We're replacing an enormous old 450 Mb Maxtor drive with a tiny 1.6 Gb Quantum drive. What are people using to keep the thing from rattling around in there? Do I need to "engineer" my own solution or does someone sell one? Thanks, kc P.S. Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 6 Mar 1997 15:55:34 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) wrote: >I would like to run my NeXTstation with out a monitor. > >Is this possible? What do I need to do? > >When I took off the monitor after it booted up, it would shut down >over night. They also shut down if I connect the monitor while >still running. DON'T DO THIS. You run the risk of frying the hardware. Running a Monostation without a monitor is possible, but requires building a special "Dongle" type hardware and attaching it to the graphic port. *Never* detach a monitor while the machine is running. If there is interest in the hardware specification for this, I can repost it. Please note that this applies for Mon stations and Cubes, while Color Stations run fine without the monitor. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about speed of OPENSTEP4.1 in NEXTSTATION TURBO? Date: 6 Mar 1997 15:58:23 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5fmpiv$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <3317381e.14180356@168.126.63.6> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) gingko@bbs.para.co.kr (Hyeongjune Kim) wrote: >Hou about speed of OPENSTEP 4.1 OR 4.1J IN STATION TURBO? >Can you recommand it? Adn how much memory size is recommanded? Works ok with 32Mb, unless you try to do development. You definitely want a remote compile server on a Pentium when you do development, otherwise you spent most of your day waiting. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:02:34 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5fmpqq$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: >In article <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> >paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: >> I'm pretty sure that the loud noise came from the fan, as I did unplug >> the fan and the whole noise gone ;) >> >Those fans are easy to replace. You just need the same screwdriver you >used to open the case to remove it. Then go to a electronics parts shop >(like RadioShack) and buy a replacement... Yes. But can somebody recommend a quiet fan with roughly the same throughput? I bought a replacement fan from DigiKey (and paid big bux to have it shipped to Europe), but the beast turned out to be almost as loud as the original one. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? In-Reply-To: Christian Neuss's message of 6 Mar 1997 15:55:34 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 32 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:36:26 GMT Christian Neuss said: > > joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) wrote: > >I would like to run my NeXTstation with out a monitor. > > > >Is this possible? What do I need to do? > > > >When I took off the monitor after it booted up, it would shut down > >over night. They also shut down if I connect the monitor while > >still running. > > DON'T DO THIS. Amen. A long time ago, I got my hands on a headless mono slab, which someone had assumed was "junk" (Of course, it wasn't. :) Because I needed to have the monitor on *my* slab hooked TO my slab, I successfully built and used the "dongle" (which really consisted of just temporarily bridging two pins on the monitor jack with the properly-rated resistor), and used the A serial port as a secondary console output, hooked via a null-modem cable to one of my laptops. Worked beautifully, I was able to get it networked to my other slab, where it stayed, until (about 1/2 year later) I managed to find a head/keyboard/mouse for it. But, if you don't know *exactly* what you're doing, I don't recommend doing this. Sit down and study the pin-out specs for the monitor jack. If you don't understand them, don't do this. You run the risk of decreasing the world's mono slab population by one if you bridge the wrong holes. -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!mfs-annex1-p23.dsphere.net!user From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:46:03 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p23.dsphere.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27676 comp.sys.next.misc:25293 >:I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package >:is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that >:would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. Actually, the cube will run Openstep. That's your best bet for the short term. >:So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my >:Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have >:the Best of Both World ;-) A WGS 9150 at home? Anyway, the DOS cards cannot run nextstep. They can't run any OS that is not DOS based unfortunately... >:I don't see intrinsic limitations. The limitations are that there is no physical hardware connected to a harddrive. The card uses a custom bios to access your mac hard drive. Since Nextstep is an operating system, it doesn't do it's calls through the bios, it accesses the hardware directly, which in the case of the dos card, isn't there... >Along the same lines, I'm going to need a Mac some time in the next few >months that will be able to run DOS apps after I drop Rhapsody on it. >Should I get a PowerMac with a DOS card and hope the latter still runs >under Rhapsody? Should I get a Pentium and hope Rhapsody's ported to it? I >need a good computer now (any computer) but by mid-1998 it will need to be >both NeXT and DOS compatible. Rhapsody will run on a pentium. The problem is that as expressed so far, that configuration will not run mac apps. You will be able to run rhapsody apps as they are produced, but no mac apps. Get a wicked mac with a dos card, you can do both now really well, and when rhapsody is released, if the dos card no longer works, you can always run softwindows, or at least dual boot your machine into system 7.x and use the dos card. Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!toads.pgh.pa.us!investor.pgh.pa.us!rbp From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: EP-S Cartridge for Laser Printer Message-ID: <1997Mar6.165352.4857@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 16:53:52 GMT Reply-To: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 12 I was just in Office Depot to buy a new cartridge and discovered they have disontinued carrying them. Apparently Cannon still makes them and will sell direct. However, I would prefer a discounter. OD had some in another store and I am buying two for $49 each. Does anybody know of another source when these are gone? -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.voicenet.com!omni1!dwright1 From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Blackbox boot problem Date: 6 Mar 1997 13:32:56 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5fmh28$cil$1@news2.voicenet.com> References: <331C76A0.6AF3@artcom.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni1.voicenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Christoph Stratmann (strat@artcom.de) wrote: : I`d like to boot my NeXT-Colorstaion from Floppy. : I have an original NeXT-Step 3.3 for Motorola. : The first time after power on I get the message : "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000374" : Each next try aborts with "Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x4380012" : All boot commands (like: b fd()fdmach, b fd, b fd(), b fd(0,0,0)) : results in this Exception. : An new boot image brought the same error. : If I try a floppy without anything on it, i get a message, that label is : not correct etc. : So, what is the problem, how to boot from floppy? : A. Steinhauser, steini@artcom.de Change your memeory slots....make sure that they are all to the left side of the case, if that dosen;t work, it could be your memory is bad. -Darren #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!night.primate.wisc.edu!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!not-for-mail From: wongj@alumni.rpi.edu (Jasper Y. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Test...pls ignore Date: 6 Mar 1997 11:25:26 -0500 Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY Lines: 8 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5fmr5m$2i38@alumni.rpi.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: alumni.rpi.edu This is a test. -- --< NeXT >--| Table Tennis | \ / | Volleyball |--< BeBox >-- | Gergely / TSP X / RITC 802 \ / Tachikara SC-5W / Mizuno | | wongj@rpi.edu, jwong@bccn.org \ / IRC: mizzle @ #unix, #next | --< Homepage forever under .... \/ .... construction >NeXTMail>-- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!uucp2.uu.net!swissbank!root From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Message-ID: <1997Mar6.164959.23659@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Nntp-Posting-Host: ch1d245nwk Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:49:59 GMT Lines: 30 Scott Hess writes > In article <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com>, > MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) writes: > Gerasimos Melissaratos writes > > Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or > > P-PROs)??? > > Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) > < text deleted > > So, now I'm left wondering about whether I could take advantage of the > "dual" under OpenStep/Mach 4.x. Talk about crap shoot time :-). > This would be wonderful if it ever sees the light of day. I'm sure there are some of us out there that would even be satisfied with an unsupported or beta version of SMP support for the Intel platform in order to get up and running as soon as possible. I would certainly be willing to beta test an SMP version of OS/Mach 4.x. Let's keep our fingers crossed... -- __________________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | Synectic Design | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \______________________________|___________________________________/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!news6.agis.net!agis!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!atmnet.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing memory on MO (is there anything like CMOS adjustments?) Date: 6 Mar 1997 09:16:09 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5fmu4p$joe@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, I'm adding 16 MG of RAM to my 040/25 machine. Is there something similar to PC CMOS which as to be adjusted so the machine recognizes the memory, or is it just plug it in and play? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Memory limitation Date: 6 Mar 1997 20:47:25 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT Station has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can I put 4 16 meg 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I haven't heard if the NeXT can use them. Any ideas? Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net!noc.van.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <22496856059808@digifix.com> Date: 6 Mar 1997 20:42:14 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 347 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <5437857680935@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:59689 comp.sys.next.announce:4078 comp.sys.next.hardware:27683 comp.sys.next.software:28431 comp.sys.next.misc:25295 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25700 comp.sys.next.bugs:4218 comp.sys.next.programmer:23341 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!netcom.net.uk!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!lboro.ac.uk!nott-cs!trent-doc!chris!sp1edea From: Andy Eder Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading In-Reply-To: X-Sender: sp1edea@chris X-Nntp-Posting-Host: chris Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Sender: news@doc.ntu.ac.uk Organization: The Nottingham Trent University, DOC. References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:44:43 GMT Lines: 37 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2806 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:137320 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88526 comp.sys.next.hardware:27684 On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Lutz Heinrichs wrote: > >>> "Kenbug" == Ken Conlon writes: > > Kenbug> Hmm I have a MMX200 and it seems to be about 10 to 15 percent faster than > Kenbug> my non mmx 200.(actually a fact, ran winstone and winbench and wintune and > Kenbug> norton)...so id have to say your wrong...im waiting to see what happens > Kenbug> when they start coming out with some software for this thing.... > > [snip] > > Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not > much. A good rule is that when processor speed doubles then this is really > noticeable and brings you a good performance boost. > 10 to 15% is not much; and MMX the way Intel did it is a hog... lets see > what AMD and Cyrix will throw on the market, I am sure at least AMD will > surprise everyone with the K6 performance, even on the MMX sector. > > I'd rather save the money for MMX, get a P200 without MMX and a Voodoo > based 3D card because this kicks MMX's ass in games. What else do you need > MMX for :) > > Lutz I'd recommend getting a MMX AND a dedicated 3D graphics card - a lot of people don't realise that the current version of MMX does not speed up 3D graphics (i.e. - is not dedicated to 3D operations). MMX is (at the moment anyway) mainly utilised in multimedia areas such as 2D graphics, video streaming and the like. Besides, in a few months computer traders will only be shipping MMX based or MMX upgradeable PC's - if they are not already. Andy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTdimension owners Date: 6 Mar 1997 21:24:39 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5fncmn$e9a@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Does anyone know whether there is a special interest group for NeXTdimension owners, or a formal/informal mailing list? If not, anybody out there interested in hosting one. I would but do not really have access to a guaranteed host for more than 6 months at a time. If you're a NeXTdimension owner and would like to contact other's in the same boat then please send me your email and maybe I can get something started. I recently got a system and want to find out more about this puppy. I'd also be interested in finding out how many of us are out there today; countable on two hands (in binary)? Drop me a line... - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news-hk.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ruby.hknet.com!news.resolink.com!news.ia.com.hk!news.hk.gin.net!news From: ktchan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where are the white people Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 12:23:31 +0800 Organization: Global Information Networks (Hong Kong), Public Internet Access. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <331CF543.4B19@hk.gin.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp00088.hk.gin.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Hi Where are the Whites? I want to see some white box user post something. Or I am in the wrong area. Regards K.T.Chan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.155.38.10!news.qnet.com!news.widomaker.com!usenet From: Steve Haynes Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 17:47:42 -0500 Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070 Lines: 34 Message-ID: <331F498E.18BF@ibm.net> References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <5fmpqq$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Reply-To: sghaynes@widomaker.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pm2-07.wmbg.widomaker.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Christian Neuss wrote: > > Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: > >In article <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> > >paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: > >> I'm pretty sure that the loud noise came from the fan, as I did unplug > >> the fan and the whole noise gone ;) > >> > >Those fans are easy to replace. You just need the same screwdriver you > >used to open the case to remove it. Then go to a electronics parts shop > >(like RadioShack) and buy a replacement... > > Yes. But can somebody recommend a quiet fan with roughly the same > throughput? I bought a replacement fan from DigiKey (and paid big > bux to have it shipped to Europe), but the beast turned out to be > almost as loud as the original one. > > Chris > -- > // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." > // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ > // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 Hello, One suggestion. I made a thin rubber gasket that fit between the fan and the case that quieted things down a bit. Not terribly difficult to do. Now, if I could just figure a way to quiet the fan in the 21 inch monitor. Now that is loud. Good luck Steve Haynes EQB Industries. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!ncar!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Black Memory limitation In-Reply-To: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu's message of 6 Mar 1997 20:47:25 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 13 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 References: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:13:39 GMT gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) said: > > You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT Station > has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can I put 4 16 meg > 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I haven't heard if the NeXT > can use them. AFAIK, 4 Meg SIMMs are as big as you can go. What *I* want to know is, would it be possible to use SIMM-doublers in each slot, so one could effectively go to 64 Meg? -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Memory limitation Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:41:35 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5fnknf$1cd6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu wrote: : gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) said: : > : > You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT Station : > has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can I put 4 16 meg : > 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I haven't heard if the NeXT : > can use them. : AFAIK, 4 Meg SIMMs are as big as you can go. What *I* want to know is, : would it be possible to use SIMM-doublers in each slot, so one could : effectively go to 64 Meg? If 4's are tops, then I doubt simmdoublers will work. They just make 4 4meg simms look like a 16. Is there any other way of expanding the memory other that buying a cube? Thanks, Geof : -- : fugue : "The police used to watch over the people. : Now they're watching the people." -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing memory on MO (is there anything like CMOS adjustments?) Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:42:50 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5fnkpq$1cd6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5fmu4p$joe@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] P'n'P (tm) ;-) Geof Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: : Hi, : I'm adding 16 MG of RAM to my 040/25 machine. : Is there something similar to PC CMOS which : as to be adjusted so the machine recognizes : the memory, or is it just plug it in and play? : Thanks, : Emmett -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!usenet From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Malfunctioning Megapixel - repair? Date: 7 Mar 1997 00:20:41 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fnn0p$9kq@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> <5fktnt$sc@mpaque.mpaque> Reply-To: clowenstein@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: mpaque@wco.com In <5fktnt$sc@mpaque.mpaque> Mike Paquette wrote: | In article <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> jon@steeldriving.com (Jonathan W. | Hendry) writes: | > | > Another monitor works fine. Swapping mouse & keyboard didn't | > help. I'm assuming the sound hardware in the monitor is shot | > somehow. | | It's the sound card, located in the rear of the monitor. It sounds like | the little DMA chip that handles the monitor sound has died. | | Swapping the board for a working one should correct the problem. Be | careful. High voltage parts in there can hold a charge for a long time | after the monitor is switched off. The same cards are used in both the | sound boxes and monitors. You just need the kind that works with your | keyboard (ADB or non-ADB. The keyboard connectors and wiring are | different between the two.) Just a historical note. If you've been around long enough that you have an original N4000 MegaPixel monitor, it has a sound card of a different size and shape. And it's a real pain to open up while looking for the sound card. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!wilbur.sequent.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.nero.net!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!ibm.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news.prtc.net!news From: "Lou" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 7 Mar 1997 00:16:17 GMT Organization: Puerto Rico Telephone Company Lines: 22 Message-ID: <01bc2a8d$238c8be0$484492cc@lforest> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com> <01bc2909$62935b00$134592cc@lforest> <5fmo4q$drm@lambda.sci.kun.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.146.68.72 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2813 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:137348 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88554 comp.sys.next.hardware:27692 You are correct. I was thinking about disk cache when I mentioned searching. But I stand by my assertion that the gains accomplished by increasing cache size are progressively less and less and shouldn't be the only specification to look for when choosing a given CPU. Lou Peter den Haan wrote in article <5fmo4q$drm@lambda.sci.kun.nl>... > "Lou" writes: > > >Well, all cache gains are governed by the law of diminishing gain. In fact, > >there is a point where a large cache will actually slow down the system > >because of the time searching through the cache memory. > > Absolutely not... in an n-way set associative cache the search time is > determined by n and unrelated to the cache size. n-way means that each > memory address can be associated with n cache addresses. Most L2 caches > are direct mapped (n=1, so "searching" is hardly the word here); CPU > caches, I think, usually 2- or 4-way associative. > - Peter #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "tom" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 7 Mar 1997 01:30:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 19 Message-ID: <01bc2a96$9d59cba0$59b95ccf@tom.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> NNTP-Posting-Host: orl-fl10-25.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Mar 06 7:30:11 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2814 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:137355 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88560 comp.sys.next.hardware:27693 Lutz Heinrichs wrote > [snip] > > Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not > much. A good rule is that when processor speed doubles then this is really > noticeable and brings you a good performance boost. > 10 to 15% is not much; and MMX the way Intel did it is a hog... lets see > what AMD and Cyrix will throw on the market, I am sure at least AMD will > surprise everyone with the K6 performance, even on the MMX sector. > the original Nexgen 6x86 ( now the AMD K6 ) had a MMX unit that did 6 billion operations per second. It will be a couple of weeks before we find out if the modification to socket 7 had any effect on this 6 BOPS. tom #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: How can I tell if I have an ADB system? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:54:06 GMT References: <5fli3s$3dj@slip.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 20 In article <5fli3s$3dj@slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: >Hi, > >How can I tell if I have an ADB mouse or monitor? > Is your mouse round or square? Round == ADB, square == non-ADB. >Is ADB better than non-ADB? > Some like the ADB stuff, some don't (I've never seen an ADB keyboard.) Good thing is, if you don't like it you can replace it with some other ADB stuff meant for Macs. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Installing memory on MO (is there anything like CMOS adjustments?) Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:55:34 GMT References: <5fmu4p$joe@slip.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article <5fmu4p$joe@slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: > >Is there something similar to PC CMOS which >as to be adjusted so the machine recognizes >the memory, or is it just plug it in and play? > It will figure it out all on its own. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXTdimension owners Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 03:34:48 GMT References: <5fncmn$e9a@news.doit.wisc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 31 In article <5fncmn$e9a@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Gareth Bestor wrote: >Does anyone know whether there is a special interest group for >NeXTdimension owners, or a formal/informal mailing list? Don't think there is one, no. >If not, anybody out there interested in hosting one. I would but >do not really have access to a guaranteed host for more than >6 months at a time. > I could possible arrange to host one here. >If you're a NeXTdimension owner and would like to contact other's >in the same boat then please send me your email and maybe I can get >something started. I recently got a system and want to find out >more about this puppy. I'd also be interested in finding out how >many of us are out there today; countable on two hands (in binary)? >Drop me a line... > Apparently about 8000 boards were made, although I have no idea how many of those are currently being used. There's one of them just to the right of me here, though. ;) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: pxl_cwby@ix.netcom.com (Sean C. Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: A few black hardware ???'s Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:51:18 GMT Organization: Me, Myself and I Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fo3bm$hk2@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lax-ca22-25.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Mar 06 9:51:18 PM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: News for Windows NT X1.0-90 I just got a NeXTStation Color Turbo from Deepspace and am wanting to add a couple SCSI devices in the very near future but would like some advice. I'm very new to NeXT (a few hours new to be accurate) so forgive me if this is the millionth time this week someone's asked. First, I'd like to add a CD-ROM, 8x minimum. The local Frys Electronics has devices from Plextor, NEC and Pioneer (along with some generic drives). Are there specific manufacturers that I should stay away from? The hardware FAQ is dated 1994 (the copy I found at least) so I'm not sure how many more drives are useable, or even if that list was just a collection of drives that people had already tried, not intending to be all inclusive. Second, I'd like to add a ZIP drive. Just plug it in and go? This way I can trade information between my Alpha and Amiga fairly easily, until I get up the nerve to try and network them all. Thanx #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need tape drive recommendation Date: 7 Mar 1997 04:17:07 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fo4s3$ljn@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: scz-ca16-06.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Mar 06 8:17:07 PM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) The old MO drive has failed, so I need to get a better backup device. For compatibility with customers who use OEM DAT tape drives in their HP servers, I probably want an external SCSI DAT tape drive that will work under OS 4.x and under NT 4.0. 2 GB capacity is sufficient. Compression seems like a good thing as long as a standard compression format is supported. I don't know much about these devices, so I'm open to education :-) Thanks. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted (GURU Needed) Date: 7 Mar 1997 05:19:07 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 88 Message-ID: <5fo8gb$gke@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: den-co13-22.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Mar 06 11:19:07 PM CST 1997 In-Reply-To: <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20010-01 Hello NeXT Community: Open Question: Does anyone have running or has anyone tried Integrating : Openstep for Mach / Windows NT Dual Boot System Dual Pro 200 Mhz Processors * Check questions below Dual processor Pro 200 motherboard with IE ASUS P/I-P65UP5 , P/I-P6NP5 , P/I-XP6NP5 or P/I-P6RP4 or Tyan Titan Pro ATX S1668 or Intel ... Finishing out with something like the supported Openstep (Driver) Configuration below: ƒ 4 PCI local bus, 3 ISA slots ƒ PCI I/O Controller with 2 serial (UART 16550) and 1 Centronics parallel port ƒ 256MB EDO Ram expandable to 1024GB. ƒ Adaptec 2940 SCSI UW SCSI controller card ƒ Seagate Barracuda or Cheetah UW 2.1Gb, 4GB or 9GB Harddrive SCSI harddrive ƒ Internal Plextor SCSI CD-ROM or Sony 12X Eide CD-Rom ƒ Matrox Millenium PCI video card with 8MB WRAM * Or Dual Head Imagine PCI Video Cards 128 with 8Mb VRam ƒ NEC XP 17" high-resolution monitor ƒ Sound Blaster 16 ƒ Altec Lancing Speakers ƒ Cogent EM 110TX 10/100Mb Combo Ethernet Card ƒ Zyxel Omni External 28.8 Fax/Voice/Data Modem or ISDN Router Solution ƒ I/Omega 100Mb ZIP Drive ƒ 3.5" Teac 1.44 floppy drive ƒ 104 Enhanced keyboard ƒ PS/2 Mouse * APC UPS Smart ***** Pushing the envelope The Question for the true Intel Guru is even though SMP is not currently supported for Intel ; if we set the system up with Dual Processors implemented; In theory is there a way to tweak Openstep 4.2 to Boot up and use only the Primary Pro 200 processor (A) while letting the secondary Pro 200 processor (B) idle without creating any instability throughout the proposed or similar configuration that is being hammered on? If the Openstep solution is possible, is their a way to tweak it to boot up (mutually exclusive) on the Windows NT SMP supported side utilizing both Pro 200 Processors without creating conflicts or instability because of the customization of the configuration on the Openstep side? Or are we venturing into unchartered waters on this one? Best Regards Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 Fax bhi1@ix.netcom.com "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine On 03/03/97, Mark Bessey wrote: >Gerasimos Melissaratos writes >> Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or >> P-PROs)??? > >Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) >-- >Mark Bessey >Apple Computer, Inc. >-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- > #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!ix.netcom.com!cdouty From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <5fmpqq$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <331F498E.18BF@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:58:49 GMT Lines: 20 Sender: cdouty@netcom17.netcom.com In article <331F498E.18BF@ibm.net>, Steve Haynes wrote: >One suggestion. I made a thin rubber gasket that fit between the fan >and the case that quieted things down a bit. Not terribly difficult to >do. Now, if I could just figure a way to quiet the fan in the 21 inch >monitor. Now that is loud. It's strange. I have two 21" monitors, one w/ BNC connectors and one w/ a 13W3. The one with BNC connectors is quiet, while the other one... I hate to poke around in high voltage areas, but I'm gonna look at the loud monitor. I'll let you know. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!cls.net!news From: Wolfram.Blase@kiel.netsurf.de (Wolfram Blase) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 23:32:46 GMT Organization: at home Lines: 21 Message-ID: <331f5342.2591251@news.cls.de> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <5fheik$lcr@pion.sci.kun.nl> <331cec0b.12909040@news.sover.net> Reply-To: Wolfram.Blase@kiel.netsurf.de NNTP-Posting-Host: p029.kiel.netsurf.de X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:2816 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:137449 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:88595 comp.sys.next.hardware:27701 On Wed, 05 Mar 1997 03:47:10 GMT, jrthomas@sover.net (J. Ryan Thomas) wrote: Hi, >MB with a P133 chip on it, and am considering upgrading to the 200 MMX >chip. Is this as painless as it seems, just replace the old with the >new, or is the voltage difference a problem? Basically, what do I You say it: MMX prozessors are dual voltage cpu's. Just have a look if your mainboard supports the I/O (i.e. 3,3 V) and CORE (i.e.2,91 V) Voltages before you buy one. regards, Wolfram -- Wolfram Blase wbl@informatik.uni-kiel.d400.de Wolfram.Blase@kiel.netsurf.de +49 431 577323 (2.0.29) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Date: 7 Mar 1997 14:07:55 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5fp7fr$hkd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: >Thinking about getting a turbo color slab to replace my mono slab.... aha, so you decided in favor of black hardware :-) Smart move. You can always build a cheap, headless Pentium to use as compile server. >1) Will I need a new modem cable? How can I tell? (I know nothing ... >2) should I be able to remove the Quantum 105 from my mono slab and ... >Anything else I should know while considering this move? It will all work as usual. While there are subtle differences between Non Turbo and Turbo architecture apart from the ADB peripherals, they do not affect serial lines, SCSI, Ethernet, or printer interface. Have fun! Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: What is Cube NIBC? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:30:10 GMT Lines: 5 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27703 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25717 When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell me what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. Thanks. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703070627.BAA07641@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: bf273024080d335adfe7bc5637ee3d44 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 01:27:19 -0500 Subject: Re: MEMORY LIMITATION Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: bf273024080d335adfe7bc5637ee3d44 - Lines: 20 Responding To: akim@cogent.net (Andrew Kim) Original Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:37:10 GMT Message-ID: bf273024080d335adfe7bc5637ee3d44 - > I have NeXTstation color unit and have 32MB. > What is maximum memory limitation of this unit? > I would like to increase more memory, can I ? I believe that you can add up to 128MB of RAM on that machine. You'll have to open it up and see how many SIMMs slots there are to be 100% sure. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP Site Newly revised and enhanced NeXTStep/OpenStep resources page, over 200 NeXTStep/OpenStep/Rhapsody related links. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!CTCnet!ctc.com!usenet From: Chang Song Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SyQuest EZ FLyer 230 ? Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 09:53:06 -0500 Organization: Concurrent Technologies Corp. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <33202BD2.1CFB@ctc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sgi33.ctc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0SC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) Hi. I was just wondering if anyone is successfully using SyQuest's EZ flyer 230 SCSI drive with NeXTstep? THanks in advance. -- Chang Song E-mail: song@ctc.com Concurrent Technologies Corp. Phone: 814-269-6515 Personal E-mail: csong@ibm.net or chsong@hotmail.com Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/5237/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- "A distributed system is one in which I cannot get something done because a machine I've never heard of is down" --Leslie Lamport #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Date: 7 Mar 1997 18:06:02 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5fplea$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> <5fp7fr$hkd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Christian Neuss wrote: > "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: >> Thinking about getting a turbo color slab to replace my mono slab.... > > While there are subtle differences between Non Turbo and Turbo > architecture apart from the ADB peripherals, they do not affect > serial lines, SCSI, Ethernet, or printer interface. Not quite true - the turbo hardware can probably more reliably handle faster serial transfer rates (eg 57600) while multitasking, and I think NeXT may have improved the memory and SCSI circuitry too. Otherwise everything will just plug in and work, just a little faster :-) One thing however, I hacked a Nintendo PowerGlove to run off the DSP of my old NeXTcube (non-Turbo) and it does *NOT* appear to work now on my NeXTstation Turbo Color. No idea why as I have a Color Digital Eye framegrabber that works fine on both DSPs, but I haven't the source code to the PowerGlove driver source code to investigate further. The NeXTstation Turbo Color is a very nice machine to use for day to day stuff, just avoid big compiles jobs. - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: 7 Mar 1997 18:06:47 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5fplfn$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) > When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell > me what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. NBIC means NeXTbus Interface Chip. Its a custom chip on the NeXTcube motherboard for interfacing over the NeXTbus backplane with other peripheral boards (i.e. the NeXTdimension). All the 040 turbo and non-Turbo cube motherboards have it, but the original 030 cubes motherboards do not. NeXTstation mono/color/Turbo motherboards don't have it as they have no internal NeXTbus expansion bus. Don't worry about it - its essentially functionless unless you get hold of a NeXTdimension board or other NeXTcube expansion board (I think the only other one was a multi-DSP board). - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 7 Mar 1997 18:16:01 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5fpm11$ku0@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Scott Hess (shess@one.net) wrote: : EDO is pretty much the way to go today. FPM has no discount, so is : only worth it if you can't use EDO. SDRAM is still at a premium, and : SDRAM-based motherboards only provide one or two DIMM slots, and : commonly available modules only go to 32M, which really limits your : memory sizes. Besides, SDRAM is only available with PentiumPro : motherboards using non-Intel chipsets :-). SDRAM is more expensive ($104 for a 16 meg vs. $84 for EDO), but bu all account it seems to be the next wave. For a good explanation of the features, see: http://sysdoc.pair.com/ram.html I dont know much about the PC motherboard side of things, but the PPC market has completely standardized on 64bit DIMMS (168 pin) so I imagine PC will move that way too. If you can find a MB with DIMMS, and support for EDO/SDRAM/Parity/ECC, I'd do it, and spring for the SDRAM if your budget will allow. Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!smash.gatech.edu!news From: ŸŸŸŸŸúlŸŸŸŸŸtg@geniac.isye.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj,Groseclose 333,4 3873,+1 404 3207684) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTdimension owners Date: 7 Mar 1997 17:15:52 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5fpig8$fak@smash.gatech.edu> References: <5fncmn$e9a@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: geniac.isye.gatech.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > Apparently about 8000 boards were made, although I have no idea how many of >those are currently being used. There's one of them just to the right of me >here, though. ;) > I have one too, "just to the right of me!" #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:38:01 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27710 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25720 In article , Andrew Chang wrote: > >When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell me >what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. >Thanks. > The NBIC is the NeXTbus Interface Chip, and must be installed on each board that wishes to communicate with other boards on the NeXTbus. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Memory limitation Date: 7 Mar 97 10:41:01 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-15-2.access.one.net In-reply-to: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu's message of Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:13:39 GMT In article , fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu writes: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) said: > You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT > Station has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can > I put 4 16 meg 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I > haven't heard if the NeXT can use them. AFAIK, 4 Meg SIMMs are as big as you can go. What *I* want to know is, would it be possible to use SIMM-doublers in each slot, so one could effectively go to 64 Meg? I don't think you can do SIMM-"doublers" for 30-ping, you have to gang four of them. Besides which, a doubler just makes a gang of SIMMs look like a bigger SIMM, so if you ganged four 30-pin 4M SIMMs, you'd end up with one 30-pin 16M SIMM-alike ... so why not just go to 30-pin 16M SIMMs? Well, beyond "because it won't work" :-). [Actually, though, won't it? I don't know enough to know if the limitation is that the board won't handle 16M SIMMs, or that the BIOS won't handle >64M. Could you leave 4 slots empty and put 4x16M to get to 64M, for instance? I doubt it, considering when the board was designed. And why am I asking, since I'm running a Turbo board? Sigh.] Beyond all that, there's _no_ way you're going to be able to find enough clearance to fit all this. You'd need four SIMM savers, short-left, tall-left, tall-right, short-right. The short ones would probably fit in the slots away from the power supply, but I doubt the tall ones would. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:41:54 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25722 comp.sys.next.hardware:27712 Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 7-Mar-97 What is Cube NIBC? by Andrew Chang@gsbux1.uchi > When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell me > what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. It's the Next Bus Interface Controller chip, which is required to arbitrate the NuBus slots inside the cube. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!psinntp!fyi.sybase.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Swapping a Quantum for Maxtor in a Black Cube Date: 7 Mar 1997 15:18:15 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5fpbjn$s1v@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port14.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu In "J. Kelly Cunningham" wrote: > > We're replacing an enormous old 450 Mb Maxtor drive with a tiny 1.6 Gb > Quantum drive. What are people using to keep the thing from rattling around > in there? > Thanks, kc > > P.S. Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu they just plug up the spaces with more tiny 1.6 Gb drives... -rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!news.uh.edu!jason From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.dsp Subject: NeXT 56001 DSP for image processing? Date: 7 Mar 97 14:45:53 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of Houston Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: fisher.psych.uh.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27714 comp.sys.next.programmer:23373 comp.dsp:32030 Hi! Forgive this basic question, but is anyone aware of image processing applications of the 56001 DSP -- papers, examples, source? I'm particularly interested in NeXT/56001 combinations, but examples from other domains are certainly welcome. Thanks! Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7 C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006 jason@crash.org (713) 942-7937 voice #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!nntp.msstate.edu!night.primate.wisc.edu!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted (GURU Needed) Date: 7 Mar 1997 20:34:46 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5fpu56$g6n@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> <5fo8gb$gke@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) wrote: > The Question for the true Intel Guru is even though SMP is not > currently supported for Intel ; if we set the system up with Dual > Processors implemented; > > In theory is there a way to tweak Openstep 4.2 to Boot up and > use only the Primary Pro 200 processor (A) while letting the > secondary Pro 200 processor (B) idle without creating any > instability throughout the proposed or similar configuration > that is being hammered on? That is probably possible. > If the Openstep solution is possible, is their a way to tweak it > to boot up (mutually exclusive) on the Windows NT SMP supported > side utilizing both Pro 200 Processors without creating conflicts > or instability because of the customization of the configuration > on the Openstep side? This is impossible. An SMP system assumes a single operating system running on both processors. Both processors look at the same chunk of RAM, the same bus, and the same devices. I can not imagine that you could run seperate operating systems on the two CPU's without them walking all over each other. It would get quite messy. To do what you want, you'd really want a single motherboard with some kind of add-on card which would effectively give you a second separate computer. Someone in one of the next newsgroups was recently talking about having this as an option from one of the companies that makes such cards. Perhaps you can find it by looking thru deja-news or the next newsgroups at www.stepwise.com. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!easynet-uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!easynet-uko!news.ukonline.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Lee Bennett" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep Color Booting off Network how can i stop this??? Date: 8 Mar 1997 01:38:10 GMT Organization: L&B Software Message-ID: <01bc2b61$5c624f20$9f7206c2@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: lon8-31.ukonline.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Lines: 9 Hi, I Have a NexT Colour system, but i dont have the o/s or a boot disk. What i need to know is how can i stop my system booting of the network. If anyone can help me with a boot disk or any help on my problem pleas e-mail me @ lee.cool@ukonline.co.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A few black hardware ???'s Date: 8 Mar 1997 02:42:49 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: <19970308024200.VAA18663@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5fo3bm$hk2@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com The Zip drive just plugs in and works. I've got a little bit of info on this at my web page--http://members.aol.com/willadams--just choose Tools, then hardware. There's also a link to the Radical Solutions web site which has a lot more information. I've also done a set of Zip drive icons to replace the generic SCSI drive icon. If you try them, please let me know if they work and what you think of them. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: d657b20caff7ebc29455aaffa156e46b - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 12:50:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: d657b20caff7ebc29455aaffa156e46b - Lines: 21 Responding To: Christian Neuss Original Date: 6 Mar 1997 15:55:34 GMT Message-ID: d657b20caff7ebc29455aaffa156e46b - > If there is interest in the hardware specification for this, > I can repost it. I'd like to see it (I don't know that I can build one of these myself as I have 8 thumbs and two really useless fingers ;-) as I'm probably going to want to run my slab headless to run the NeXT LP while I do my work on a new Intel machine (advice/pointers on how to connect the two are also appreciated) TjL -- TjL *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!lrs-news!osn.de!news.gtn.com!blackbush.xlink.net!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.space.net!greenie!burrow.muc.de!tm From: Markus Gloede Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Lines: 15 Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . X-Newsreader: Red Gnus v0.84/Emacs 19.34 References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <5fmpqq$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:25:50 GMT >>>>> "CN" == Christian Neuss writes: CN> Yes. But can somebody recommend a quiet fan with roughly the CN> same throughput? I bought a replacement fan from DigiKey (and CN> paid big bux to have it shipped to Europe), but the beast CN> turned out to be almost as loud as the original one. I, too, got a new fan but that didn't solve my noise problems. It turned out it was the drive that made that constant noise and that I can't replace as easily. :-( Markus G P.S.: My fan came in a set of two so if somebody in the Bavarian capital thinks he needs one, send me an email. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why isn't my optical drive operating correctly? References: <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> <1997Mar4.193122.529@gamelan.shnet.org> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <33210a24.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 8 Mar 97 06:41:40 GMT Lines: 32 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article <1997Mar4.193122.529@gamelan.shnet.org>, Thomas Funke wrote: >In <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Charlie Root wrote: >> The optical drive inside my NeXTcube isn't operating correctly it >> appears. The console screen displays the following message when an >> optical disk is inserted in the drive: >> >> od0?: write re-spin (laser power failed) ... >> >> This is obviously not a good sign. Is there any way to easily repair >> the drive (I am an electrical engineer), or am I going to have to >> accept the sad fact that it should be put to rest and buy a >> replacement? > >Yes, this is a common sign of a soon and sudden end of the OD. You can >replace the laser if you can find one, some older ODs have mechanical >problems and a thus working laser. > > > I am in need of a working laser for my good mechanically-but-dead OD. Anyone got one? How easy is it to install. I called Bell Atlantic. They sell new ODs at US$375. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Message-ID: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 22:45:12 -0800 From: Greg Neagle X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Help: ATI mach64 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Lines: 26 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!la-news1.digilink.net!capital.caprica.com I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in any mode but 640x480 grayscale. Configure.app detects that the on-board video is mach64-based, but during the boot process, it is asserted that "no such device exists". In Configure.app, under "Select the settings for this device": DMA channel: none Port address: 8 bytes at 0x2E8 Mapped memory: 2048K at 0xFC000000 But the Aptiva manual says that the system I/O addresses for the SVGA controller are 03C0-03CF, 3D4, 3D5, 03DA and that "Linear video memory is at C000000H - C0FFFFFH Attempts to change the settings in Configure.app result in various warning messages and no diffence in the display. Is it possible that the settings are wrong, or is it something more basic and therefore hopeless - meaning I'll have to buy a video card for this machine? Any help or advice appreciated. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!news.u.washington.edu!dchin From: dchin@u.washington.edu (Davin Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Turbo memory requirements Date: 8 Mar 1997 07:29:07 GMT Organization: University of Washington Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5fr4g3$7f3@nntp1.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: becker2.u.washington.edu NNTP-Posting-User: dchin I have a turbo station that I'm trying to upgrade from 8 megs of ram to more. When I add in 4 16 meg simms, for a total of 64 megs of ram (all simms are non parity, single sided, non edo 72 pin simms) the machine recognizes each as a 4 meg stick, for a total of 16 megs. About the only think I can this of that would cause this prob is the fact that these simms are single sided since I don't believe 16 meg simms were avalible in 1992 as single sided units. Before I spend hours trying to locate 64 megs of this stuff, does anyone know authoritivily what should or should not work in this machine? Thanks -- _______________________________________________________________________ Davin Chin dchin@u.washington.edu 206-783-7337 (Fax) 206-706-1644 ext 634 (Pager) dchin@nwmicro.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!usenet From: sk68@cornell.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep Color Booting off Network how can i stop this??? Date: 8 Mar 1997 10:29:24 GMT Organization: Cornell University Lines: 51 Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5frf24$7tk@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <01bc2b61$5c624f20$9f7206c2@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: cu-dialup-0058.cit.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Lee Bennett" wrote: >Hi, > >I Have a NexT Colour system, but i dont have the o/s or a boot disk. What i >need to know is how can i stop my system booting of the network. > >If anyone can help me with a boot disk or any help on my problem pleas >e-mail me @ > >lee.cool@ukonline.co.uk Hi Lee, I think you really need to go get a boot disk. If you want to make a boot disk, you probably want to get a SCSI-2 hard disk and also a SCSI-2 CD-ROM drive. After you get these items, you probably have to change the startup boot device setting: 1. You need to get a boot disk. You can make a boot disk using a SCSI-2 hard disk and a SCSI-2 CD-ROM drive. You also need a NeXTSTEP 3.x CD-ROM. Plug the SCSI-2 CD-ROM into the SCSI port of you system and install the hard drive internally. 2. Start the computer. You now want to get into the ROM monitor. You can get into the ROM monitor by: When the system is first turned on, hold down the Command bar and press the ~ key (without pressing Shift) IMMEDIATELY after the "Testing System" message is replaced by "Loading from disk" message. (On keyboards with two Command keys, hold down the right Command key and press the ~ key. The ROM monitor window is displayed containing the prompt "NeXT>". 3. Inspect startup parameters: While in ROM monitor do as follows: NeXT>p (type p and return) NeXT>boot command: ben? bsd (IT WILL PROBABLY BE SET TO "ben"; CHANGE THIS TO "bsd" by typing "bsd" and pressing return) Leave all other parameters alone. Of course, all this is assuming you NeXT colour system does not have hardware password protection enabled. IF it is enabled, you need to the get the hardware password or erase the current one. Now the computer will boot using device "sd" ("bsd" I think stands for boot scsi drive (scsi device with lowest number)). If you successfully installed the CD-ROM drive and the hard disk, the computer should now load via the CD-ROM drive and install NeXTSTEP 3.x into the hard disk. Good luck #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!globalip.ch!starbase2.pingnet.ch!news From: Geoff Hopson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: disktab for Toshiba Tecra deskstation && Iomega Jaz Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 11:30:13 +0100 Organization: Ping Net Sarl, Lausanne, Switzerland Lines: 28 Message-ID: <33213FB5.1370@mindless.com> Reply-To: Geoff.Hopson@mindless.com NNTP-Posting-Host: line5-zuerich.datacomm.ch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hi, I am having problems hooking up an Iomega Jaz drive to the Toshiba DeskStation V. The SCSI adaptor in there is an AMD PCI SCSI adaptor and is alledged to work with the IOMEGA Bernoulli device, so one would assume that the Jaz would work also. It works just fine with WinNT and Win95. I have retrieved the NextAnswer on the Jaz drive and have tried their disktab entry - no luck. I have tried the disktab entry mentioned on http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ns-disktab/ - different error, but still no luck. Any clues? I can format the Jaz disk using sdform, but the disk command just bombs. Thanks in advance, Geoff -- +-------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Geoff Hopson | Geoff.Hopson@mindless.com | | Senior Telecomms Architect | http://www.datacomm.ch/~hopson | | SYSTOR AG | "I never make predictions, | | Baslerstrasse 60, 8048 Zurich | and I never will" | +-------------------------------+--------------------------------+ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:44:28 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: "Paul J. Sanchez" In-Reply-To: On 1 Mar 1997, Paul J. Sanchez wrote: > The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT > printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't > tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? EP-S cartridges fit the HP Laserjet II and III, as well as the Apple Laserwriter II series printers (and the NeXT laser printer, of course). They're about as standard as you can get - all are based on the same Canon engine. (Probably the most popular laser printer engine of all time.) -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cyclic.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.kolumbus.fi!news.funet.fi!news.cs.hut.fi!news.clinet.fi!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703071747.MAA04578@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 03e34f159443d3e303d441a1a944162a - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 12:47:30 -0500 Subject: Re: A few black hardware ???'s Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 03e34f159443d3e303d441a1a944162a - Lines: 48 Responding To: pxl_cwby@ix.netcom.com (Sean C. Cunningham) Original Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:51:18 GMT > I just got a NeXTStation Color Turbo from Deepspace and am wanting > to add a couple SCSI devices in the very near future but would like > some advice. I'm very new to NeXT (a few hours new to be accurate) > so forgive me if this is the millionth time this week someone's > asked. Not a problem, at least you're on-topic, which is a nice thing these days... > First, I'd like to add a CD-ROM, 8x minimum. The local Frys > Electronics has devices from Plextor, NEC and Pioneer (along with > some generic drives). Are there specific manufacturers that I > should stay away from? The hardware FAQ is dated 1994 (the copy I > found at least) so I'm not sure how many more drives are useable, > or even if that list was just a collection of drives that people > had already tried, not intending to be all inclusive. If this is for NeXT hardware you have to get a SCSI drive, but that said any SCSI drive should(*) work. > Second, I'd like to add a ZIP drive. Just plug it in and go? This > way I can trade information between my Alpha and Amiga fairly > easily, until I get up the nerve to try and network them all. Yes, with some important information you should know. You can find the ZIP info and the newest NeXTStep FAQ on my NeXTStep page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ which is where I've put all these links people want and I can't remember. TjL -- TjL *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 8 Mar 1997 13:58:55 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5frrav$8k4@boursy.news.erols.com> References: <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> Reply-To: robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) NNTP-Posting-Host: dam-as7s71.erols.com In comp.sys.next.hardware article <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> T.J.Luoma wrote: > I'm > probably going to want to run my slab headless to run the NeXT LP > while I do my work on a new Intel machine (advice/pointers on how to > connect the two are also appreciated) I've done it. For '040 machines, it's quite simple, just a Radio Shack normally open momentary pushbutton between pins 6 and 16 of the monitor cable. All this business about big power resistors relates to old '030 cube power supplies which weren't happy without the monitor load. Note that the DB-19 connector on the monitor is impossible to obtain but you can fake it (If you don't have a spare NeXT monitor cable lying around). A DB-25 with the right 6 pins snapped out fits on the back of the NeXTstation. I've never tried it on a cube. Before disconnecting your monitor you need to: 1) From the ROM monitor, enable "Use serial port A as alternate console." 2) Edit /etc/ttys: Comment out the first (uncommented) line, the one that sets "console" to /usr/lib/NeXTstep/loginwindow. Uncomment the previous line, which sets console to /usr/etc/getty. Hook up your external vt100 monitor (or serial line to your shiny new computer) to ttyA. Make sure you get the line settings right, to agree with the default entry in /etc/gettytab. I believe the default is something like 7-N-1 (Neal?). Voila! Boot the machine by momentarily depressing the pushbutton. Turn it off via the "halt" command from your tty terminal or a telnet session. NOTE (and this is the rub for most applications): Having disabled the windowserver in step 2 above, you no longer have the Postscript interpreter running. Hence, you cannot run Apps via -NXHost, and YOU CANNOT RUN A NEXT LASER PRINTER. Others have claimed success at leaving the WindowServer running, but I have found that it hangs the machine. Anyone? Robert -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: ATI mach64 problems Date: 8 Mar 1997 13:58:36 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5frrac$40r0@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: f181-202.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Greg Neagle wrote: > I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the > all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI > mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in > any mode but 640x480 grayscale. > [text snipped] > > Any help or advice appreciated. Do you have the PCIBus driver loaded? -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: EP-S Cartridge for Laser Printer Message-ID: <1997Mar7.172041.498@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <1997Mar6.165352.4857@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:20:41 GMT Lines: 14 In <1997Mar6.165352.4857@investor.pgh.pa.us> Bob Peirce #305 wrote: > I was just in Office Depot to buy a new cartridge and discovered they > have disontinued carrying them. Apparently Cannon still makes them and > will sell direct. However, I would prefer a discounter. OD had some in > another store and I am buying two for $49 each. Does anybody know of > another source when these are gone? The cartridges from HP are still sold. They have a different number (not EP-S), but are fully compatible. Just ask for a HP-LJ II cartridge. I don't think HP will stop production - they have a big customer base. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Black Laser Printer Trouble Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:08:54 GMT Lines: 21 In article jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) writes: > Hi! > > My trusty black NLP is experiencing problems -- the final stage rollers > don't seem to be rolling anymore. I've popped the back panel open > and the rollers and gears turn fine, so it must be deeper into the > mechanism. Has anyone experienced and/or beat this problem > before? > This is a well known FAQ. The nylon gear of the drive axle is broken (happens far too often). Advice on repair is to be found in the FAQ on Peanuts -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:19:10 GMT Lines: 27 In article <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Markus Gloede writes: > >>>>> "CN" == Christian Neuss writes: > > CN> Yes. But can somebody recommend a quiet fan with roughly the > CN> same throughput? I bought a replacement fan from DigiKey (and > CN> paid big bux to have it shipped to Europe), but the beast > CN> turned out to be almost as loud as the original one. > I haven't done it on my own so I can't give you type numbers or other specs but I recommend thermocontrolled Pabst fans (German made quality parts ;-) Likely not to be sold at RadioShack :-( > I, too, got a new fan but that didn't solve my noise problems. It > turned out it was the drive that made that constant noise and that I > can't replace as easily. :-( > The disk drive noise is much more common to be the real problem. Due to a design flaw in the mounting bracket there is no good way other as to remove the drive and put it in an external enclosure. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!wanadoo.fr!usenet From: Dujourdy Stephane Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXT CUBE SEARCH Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 19:10:03 +0100 Organization: Interactive TV Consultant - Amiga/PC/Mac dev. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3321AB7A.4C00@Wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: yellow-tln-22.wanadoo.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Hello from France, for sentimental history i search a Next Computer. Send me by mail your proposition. Bye Stef #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experiences with APC or Tripplite UPS ??? Date: 8 Mar 1997 19:15:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: <19970308191501.OAA28194@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com apc and tripplite are medium usage ups. true online ups offer muchbetter protection. at a higher price of course. we sell exide for trueonline, www.exide.com, apc for medium(smartups only), and viewsonics for long end www.viewsonics.com. for customs we build our own rackmounts. btw: batteries do get old so remvoable batteries are a plus. UPS SUN SCSI Built to order with support GSA schedule Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!usenet@news.umbc.edu From: Gregory Pacholczyk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 14:02:15 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3321B7B7.7783@gl.umbc.edu> References: Reply-To: gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-034.dialup.umbc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: unknown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Isaac wrote: > > On 1 Mar 1997, Paul J. Sanchez wrote: > > > The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT > > printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't > > tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? > > EP-S cartridges fit the HP Laserjet II and III, as well as the Apple > Laserwriter II series printers (and the NeXT laser printer, of course). > They're about as standard as you can get - all are based on the same > Canon engine. (Probably the most popular laser printer engine of all > time.) > > -Isaac HP-92295 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is parallel port ZIP the same as the SCSI version? Date: 8 Mar 1997 22:36:50 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 26 Sender: -no- @pm244-15.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fspm2$afg$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm244-15.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Hello, I am looking for a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXT. And I have notice that the parallel port one is under Windows 95 reported as being connected to a SCSI controller. Does it mean that inside there is the SCSI ZIP drive with a parallel to SCSI converter? If so, a skilled person could possibly: 1) Make the parrallel port ZIP into a combo parallel/SCSI ? 2) Use the paraller-> SCSI converter to daisy-chain other SCSI devices to a Windows 95 machine? That would be really usefull to me. Anybody has opened the parallel port ZIP drive to examine this? Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!ix.netcom.com!news From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted (GURU Needed) Date: 8 Mar 1997 23:56:20 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 98 Message-ID: <5fsub4$iil@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> <5fo8gb$gke@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> <5fpu56$g6n@usenet.rpi.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: den-co21-13.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Mar 08 3:56:20 PM PST 1997 In-Reply-To: <5fpu56$g6n@usenet.rpi.edu> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20010-01 Follow Up: On 03/07/97 in the group comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: >rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) wrote: >> The Question for the true Intel Guru is even though SMP is not >> currently supported for Intel ; if we set the system up with Dual >> Processors implemented; >> >> In theory is there a way to tweak Openstep 4.2 to Boot up and >> use only the Primary Pro 200 processor (A) while letting the >> secondary Pro 200 processor (B) idle without creating any >> instability throughout the proposed or similar configuration >> that is being hammered on? > >That is probably possible. Cool, this is actually a proposed system for a professor at Harvard, I checked with NeXT technical and they were not sure..... >> If the Openstep solution is possible, is there a way to tweak it >> to boot up (mutually exclusive) on the Windows NT SMP supported >> side utilizing both Pro 200 Processors without creating conflicts >> or instability because of the customization of the configuration >> on the Openstep side? > >This is impossible. An SMP system assumes a single operating system >running on both processors. We were actually thinking for this prototype ... along the lines of logging completely out of the Openstep dual processor mode (A) running with (B) processor Idling and then theoretically rebooting into the Windows NT partition and having it configured to take advantage of both A & B processors through booting up in SMP mode . In this scenario would the following still apply with relation to the NT / Openstep configuration scripts conflicting with each other only in a complete reboot scenario with only 1 OS running ? Both processors look at the same chunk >of RAM, the same bus, and the same devices. I can not imagine that >you could run separate operating systems on the two CPU's without >them walking all over each other. It would get quite messy. > No doubt a simultaneous OS boot would be chaotic , we are not even going to try and go there, although the add on card idea is a very cool idea .. another thought is advantec (sp) makes a multiple motherboard rackmount case thats very cool... we set a system up with a monitor switch box for a server that had to run NT and Openstep simultaneously with Linux as a 3rd rebootable option. >To do what you want, you'd really want a single motherboard >with some kind of add-on card which would effectively give >you a second separate computer. Someone in one of the next >newsgroups was recently talking about having this as an >option from one of the companies that makes such cards. >Perhaps you can find it by looking thru deja-news or the >next newsgroups at www.stepwise.com. Kudos Appreciate the help and advice! Best regards Rob Blessin President BHI bhi1@ix.netcom.com > >--- >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu >Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA > -- {\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;} \paperw9840 \paperh8400 \margl120 \margr120 \pard\tx533\tx1067\tx1601\tx2135\tx2668\tx3202\tx3736\tx4270\tx4803\tx5337\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs24\fc0\cf0 Best regards: \ \ Rob Blessin\ President\ Black Hole, Incorporated\ 748 Poplar St.\ Denver , CO 80220\ \ 303-393-6419\ 303-320-0949\ \ http://www.blackholeinc.com/\ \ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine\ \ Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. } #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!newsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de!news.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MIDI and Sound questions Date: 9 Mar 1997 00:41:03 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5ft0uv$h5k$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <331e744f.25319126@news.jumppoint.com> <5finp9$1asc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <5fj7aj$98u$1@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: don@globalobjects.com In <5fj7aj$98u$1@news.xmission.com> Don Yacktman wrote: > gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) wrote: > > Ian Upright (ian@peacesummit.com) wrote: > > : Do any Mac MIDI interfaces work on black boxes? Whats the best way to > get a > > : MIDI adapter for NeXT? > > This was the question I was about to ask.... ;-> > > (Specifically I would like a 2 port adapter for use with Sequence.) > > ... My upcoming release of MMP.app (now renamed to Minimal Media Player) can play MIDI files. It uses the freely available program timidity to render the MIDI files to digital audio and plays it on your system. Beside MIDI it can play MODs, Audio MPEG Layer 1,2 and 3 and plain 'snd' files, Support for WAV is to be included. The downside is a. you need a fast machine, a P133 will do fine but a 486 DX/4 MHz is too slow. (not to mention a m68k system...) b. the midi patches needs about 8.6 MByte on your HD. c. at the moment it works only on Intel hardware (NeXTSTEP 3.x and OpenStep) -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:24:03 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27738 comp.sys.next.misc:25306 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25747 On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Michele Fuortes wrote: > I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package > is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that > would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. As I'm sure someone's told you, the cube (provided it's an 040) will run Openstep, albeit slowly. > So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my > Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have > the Best of Both World ;-) Apple's DOS cards are exactly that - DOS cards. They only work with DOS-based operating systems (which includes Windows95, but not NT). Neither NEXTSTEP or Openstep will run on Apple's cards... HOWEVER: Orange Micro sells PC-compatibility cards that they advertise as NT-compatible. It may be possible to install NEXTSTEP or OpenStep/Mach on one of those cards. Even if it isn't, OpenStep/NT may run if you have NT running on the card. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!cc.usu.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB NeXT mouse with a Mac Message-ID: <1997Mar8.203236.95388@cc.usu.edu> From: jaeyang@nostalgia.usu.edu (Jaeyang Park) Date: 8 Mar 97 20:32:36 MDT Reply-To: slpv9@cc.usu.edu References: <01bc274a$28698b40$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> Organization: Utah State University Nntp-Posting-Host: slpv9.dorms.usu.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: logy@mail.utexas.edu Lines: 5 In <01bc274a$28698b40$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> "Nathan Whitt" wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to use a NeXT ADB mouse with a Mac? > Sure, it works well with my PowerMac. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: 9 Mar 1997 05:27:39 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 22 Sender: -no- @pm247-19.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fthob$ir$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm247-19.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: isaac@pobox.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27740 comp.sys.next.misc:25308 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25749 In Isaac wrote: > HOWEVER: > > Orange Micro sells PC-compatibility cards that they advertise as > NT-compatible. It may be possible to install NEXTSTEP or OpenStep/Mach on > one of those cards. Even if it isn't, OpenStep/NT may run if you have > NT running on the card. > > -Isaac > > Do you know more about the company? Thanks Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <5437857680935@digifix.com> Date: 9 Mar 1997 05:25:33 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 347 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <7353857885137@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:59944 comp.sys.next.announce:4083 comp.sys.next.hardware:27741 comp.sys.next.software:28483 comp.sys.next.misc:25309 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25750 comp.sys.next.bugs:4221 comp.sys.next.programmer:23396 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!news6.agis.net!agis!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!atmnet.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How can I tell if I have an ADB system? Date: 5 Mar 1997 20:44:44 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5fli3s$3dj@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, How can I tell if I have an ADB mouse or monitor? Is ADB better than non-ADB? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news.ttu.edu!usenet From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 8 Mar 1997 22:12:53 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:28484 comp.sys.next.misc:25310 comp.sys.next.hardware:27743 how much hard disk space will i need to install just NS 3.3 User? also, has anyone tried to install NS 3.3 on a Sharp PC 8700 notebook computer? hs #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.nm.kr!snunews.snu.ac.kr!not-for-mail From: "JeongJinhyeok(96419-074)" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does OPENSTEP4.1 support Think Pad 560? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 16:40:24 +0900 Organization: Seoul National Univ. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <331D2368.344A@gong.snu.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: comp44.snu.ac.kr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) NS 3.3 supported TP 560. So I thought OS 4.1 would support it, and I seeked display driver. But I couldn't find it. Does OS 4.1 support TP 560 and TP 760ED? NeXT says that NS 3.3 beta driver will work on OS 4.1. Really work? Thanks. Jinhyeok Jeong. salbang@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://gong.snu.ac.kr/~salbang #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.nm.kr!snunews.snu.ac.kr!not-for-mail From: "JeongJinhyeok(96419-074)" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does OPENSTEP4.1 support Think Pad 560? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 16:40:51 +0900 Organization: Seoul National Univ. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <331D2383.6A27@gong.snu.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: comp44.snu.ac.kr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) NS 3.3 supported TP 560. So I thought OS 4.1 would support it, and I seeked display driver. But I couldn't find it. Does OS 4.1 support TP 560 and TP 760ED? NeXT says that NS 3.3 beta driver will work on OS 4.1. Really work? Thanks. Jinhyeok Jeong. salbang@gong.snu.ac.kr http://gong.snu.ac.kr/~salbang #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!uunet!in2.uu.net!161.142.201.20!news2.jaring.my!rumah.pc.my!newsmaster From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 9 Mar 1997 07:12:13 GMT Organization: Personal Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5ftnsd$61j@rumah.pc.my> References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: j8.ptl32.jaring.my X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) > >You run the risk of frying the hardware. Running a Monostation >without a monitor is possible, but requires building a special >"Dongle" type hardware and attaching it to the graphic port. >*Never* detach a monitor while the machine is running. > >If there is interest in the hardware specification for this, >I can repost it. > >Please note that this applies for Mon stations and Cubes, while >Color Stations run fine without the monitor. > Hmmm, as I understand it, you can run a station "headless" as long as you have a way to turn it on. Later model stations support the "auto restart after power failure" option so you can set this, pull the plug, disconnect the monitor, and then plug/unplug the slab to start/shut off. I've done this & have the headless slab connected via ethernet to a fully equipped slab. So far nothing has fried, but I must admit that I've only started it up & run it a few times in this mode. Comments from the hardware specs??? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) Senior Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my American Degree Program Fax: 6-03-5482329 Institut Teknologi MARA Section 17, Shah Alam, Malaysia --------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:54:30 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: Andrew Chang In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27747 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25754 On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Andrew Chang wrote: > When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell me > what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. NBIC = NeXTBus Interface Chip It's the controller that lets the CPU board access other devices (like NeXTDimension boards) across the NeXTbus. On the flip side, pulling that chip from the board allows the board to boot without seeing or being seen by other NeXTbus devices (like other CPU boards.) so you can run up to 4 independent CPU modules in one cube case. :) It's not multi-processing, tho. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!140.142.64.3!news.u.washington.edu!dchin From: dchin@u.washington.edu (Davin Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 9 Mar 1997 10:37:24 GMT Organization: University of Washington Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5fu3t4$8ad@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <5ftnsd$61j@rumah.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: becker2.u.washington.edu NNTP-Posting-User: dchin michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) writes: >Hmmm, as I understand it, you can run a station "headless" as long as you >have a way to turn it on. Later model stations support the "auto restart >after power failure" option so you can set this, pull the plug, disconnect >the monitor, and then plug/unplug the slab to start/shut off. Yes you can start up the machine, but you have to change some files in /etc to to tell the machine not to start up the window server or else it will go into a panic because it can't talk to the moniter's circutry to render the dps. (at least thats what I think it is) Also, even if you do that, I don't believe you can use it as a printserver because the dps circutry that is used to run the printer requires that the windowserver be running, and windowserver requires the the moniter. If anyone can prove me wrong on the last point I'd be really happy :) Davin -- _______________________________________________________________________ Davin Chin dchin@u.washington.edu 206-783-7337 (Fax) 206-706-1644 ext 634 (Pager) dchin@nwmicro.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Quix Daydream Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:16:20 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 18 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) If anyone has any information about the Quix Daydream I would be very interested to hear about it. Does (did) it really work? How slowly? Does it require a reboot? I've checked the Quix web site, but the only information they have online now is about their port of the MacOS to IBM PReP hardware and only a mere mention of their port to the NeXT. As a Mac developer moving to OPENSTEP, I have purchased some black hardware for home use. There are two Mac applications that I really can't live without, however, I would rather keep just a single cpu if possible. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Symbios Logic 53C875 SCSI Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:40:55 GMT Lines: 12 Because I remember somebody asked a question about this: I just tried to get a board (Asus SC875) with the new Symbios Logic 53C875 chip working together with the NeXTSTEP Symbios Logic 53C8xx driver version 3.3. This did not work. I got some PCI device error when NS tries to find a board for the driver that I just had installed. If someone has a combination like this running, I would like to hear. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Turbo memory requirements Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5fr4g3$7f3@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:14:01 GMT Lines: 24 In article <5fr4g3$7f3@nntp1.u.washington.edu> dchin@u.washington.edu (Davin Chin) writes: > I have a turbo station that I'm trying to upgrade from 8 megs of > ram to more. When I add in 4 16 meg simms, for a total of 64 > megs of ram (all simms are non parity, single sided, non edo 72 > pin simms) the machine recognizes each as a 4 meg stick, for a > total of 16 megs. About the only think I can this of that would > cause this prob is the fact that these simms are single sided > since I don't believe 16 meg simms were avalible in 1992 as single > sided units. Before I spend hours trying to locate 64 megs of > this stuff, does anyone know authoritivily what should or should > not work in this machine? > The RAM testing code assumes that the largest SIMMs sit in the first bank (closest to the power supply). Subsequent banks are assumed to be of same or smaller size. All memory beyond the limit of the first bank won't be scanned and, therefore, won't be recognized. You just need to swap the sticks and it'll be ok. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.laptops Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!ultra.sonic.net!miwok!linex6!FRODO From: justin@lucasarts.com (Justin A. Graham) Subject: Toshiba DeskStationV SCSI Problems X-Nntp-Posting-Host: sp112.linex.com Message-ID: Summary: Need help with SCSI problem Keywords: Toshiba DeskStation Tecra SCSI Sender: news@linex6.linex.com (news admin) Organization: LucasArts Entertainment Co. X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:46:43 GMT Lines: 40 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27752 comp.sys.laptops:101313 Hello world... I have a Toshiba 720CDT and a DeskStationV as well. For some strange reason, I cannot get the SCSI port in the DSV to function. In the system properties device manager, in the AMD PCI SCSI section under SCSI controllers. The device status reads 'This device is not present, not working properly, or does not have all the drivers installed. See your hardware documentation (Hah! What documentation?) (Code 10.)' Under the driver tab, The driver files list reads 'c:\blah blah...\AMSINT.MPD' I checked with a friend who apparently has no problem using his SCSI port on his DSV, and his driver files list reads the same. The only difference is that in the file details section under the same tab, mine reads 'Not available' for everthing, whereas his has relevant information. I have tried everything from reinstalling windows95 to putzing with various things, deleting the drivers yadda yadda yadda... I have no idea what to do now, I have tried calling the Toshiba 24x7 tech support number many many times, but have never once managed to get through (it's always busy.) Has anyone had a similar problem and managed to fix it? I would love any information anyone may have on correcting this problem. On a less important subject... I would also like to change the HD spin-down setting in the machine settings dialog, to 'never' when the laptop is docked. Everytime I try this, I get an error 'writing to CMOS'. Why can this setting not be modified? Anyone? Cheers Thanks in advance ///////////////////////////////////// // Justin A. Graham // // Senior Programmer // // LucasArts Entertainment Company // // justin@lucasarts.com // ///////////////////////////////////// #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.68.191.16!news.accessone.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? Date: 9 Mar 1997 19:25:45 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5fvuvp$jum@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, What is the fastest modem speed I can use thru a serial port on a 040/25 machine? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 23:21:03 -0600 From: yjwu@NeXT.dge.ntou.edu.tw Subject: How to adjust a SUN monitor to work with a color turbo ADB? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <857970618.10418@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: yjwu@NeXT.dge.ntou.edu.tw, yjwu@phys.sinica.edu.tw, yjwu@unix.cie.rpi.edu X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Mar 10 05:10:24 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 140.121.195.212 (next.dge.NTOU.edu.tw) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.2-HL sun4c) X-Authenticated-Sender: yjwu@NeXT.dge.ntou.edu.tw Lines: 31 We have a spare SUN SPARC II monitor in our office. The model number is GDM-1662B; a 16" SONY trinitron. Is it possible to make some adjustments on this monitor so it can be used with a NeXT color turbo ADB? Recently I bought this NeXT color turbo ADB. It came with a NeXT 17" megapixel display-a SONY trinitron. It seemed to me that both monitors share the same circuit boards; only the revision numbers are different. Definitely their scan frequencies are different. Many components on SUN monitor's main board were missing on NeXT monitor. A bunch of adjusting pots, especially "H" in "H-L" pairs were omitted on NeXT monitor too. I had tried adjusting "H-L" pair of H.Freq and "H-L" pair of Phase on the SUN monitor with no success. Any input? In my work place there is no NeXT machine. I would like to carry the NeXT "pizza box" and sound box as a "portable NeXT". I can use MAC keyboard and mouse.... Given the fact that both monitors are so similar I appreciate any suggestion to make it work. I can do soldering work so if the modification is minor I can manage that too. (Originally I though what I have to do was to adjust those pots, maybe the inductance of a coil etc... Unfortunately the modern display technology is beyond my imagination: those inductors were located far away from those adjusting pots, and they are of fixed value type.) Thank you in advanced. Y.-J. Wu yjwu@NeXT.dge.ntou.edu.tw -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? References: <5fvuvp$jum@slip.net> From: Darren Reely X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.45.66.26 Message-ID: <3323bda7.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 10 Mar 97 07:52:07 GMT Lines: 12 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!scipio.cyberstore.ca!199.45.66.26 emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: >Hi, > >What is the fastest modem speed I can use thru >a serial port on a 040/25 machine? People have different experiences. I run mine at 57600bps, others can only run at 38400bps. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.68.191.16!news.accessone.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS 3.3 or OS 4.1 on 040/25 with 32 Megs of RAM Date: 9 Mar 1997 19:23:03 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5fvuqn$jnb@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, I've tried for months, unsuccesfully to get either NS 3.3 Developer or a more recent NeXTSTEP Operating system on c.s.n.m and I'm about to bite the bullet and buy an OS. Am I better of getting 3.3, an OS which the 040 is more closely optimized for, or 4.1 which someday I might be able to use in a Pentium. Does loading up with memory, say to 64 Megs of RAM tilt the decision toward getting 4.1? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quix Daydream Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:01:03 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: David Herren In-Reply-To: Hello again! On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, David Herren wrote: > If anyone has any information about the Quix Daydream I would be very > interested to hear about it. Does (did) it really work? How slowly? Does > it require a reboot? Yes it works. About as fast as a Quadra 900 (or 950, for Turbo machines). Yes, it requires a reboot. It basically boots a custom kernel that interfaces with a little ROM box that connects to the DSP and then boots MacOS off the HD. Supposedly it's very compatible and stable with a few quirks: 1. Can't switch video modes. On a mono, it always runs in 4 greys (or is it b/w?). On a colour slab it runs in "Thousands" mode. On a NextDimension, I guess, it runs in "Millions" mode. 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is normally used for sound on black hardware.) I've heard it runs System 7.5.5 with no problems. I wonder if anyone's tried 7.6 on it. > As a Mac developer moving to OPENSTEP, I have purchased some black > hardware for home use. There are two Mac applications that I really > can't live without, however, I would rather keep just a single cpu if > possible. You might try running Executor, ARDI's Mac emulator. Version 2.0 is the last version to run under NEXTSTEP, but on black hardware, it uses the 040 directly - no CPU emulation penalty. If you're only running a few applications, and they run under Executor, you can save some $$$ - it's a lot cheaper than even a used Daydream. Another advantage is that it runs as an App concurrently under NEXTSTEP, and you can cut-and-paste between Executor and other NeXT apps. A limited (only in that one can only use it for 10 minutes at a time) demo is available for download from either ftp.next.peak.org or ftp.peanuts.org (or its mirrors). As I recall it's a bit tricky to find, so you may have to dig around for it. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 10 Mar 1997 12:55:08 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 208 Message-ID: <5g10bc$1kcr@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: d657b20caff7ebc29455aaffa156e46b - <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi everybody, since there was some demand for it, please find enclosed a posting by Terry Gliedt which describes the "hardware dongle" needed to powerup a monitorless mono station or cube. Please note that, as Michael Olan has pointed out, the main purpose of the dongle is being able to turn the machine on without the keyboard attached, and that using the "auto restart after power failure" feature is be another simple option to start the machine, provided you have a BIOS version that supports it. Please note the paragraph about the power resistor necessary if the machine has no internal disks installed. If memory serves me right, NeXT's power supply needs a certain amount of power drawn from it. Does anybody know whether the amount of power drawn from an internal disk is really sufficient to keep the power supply alive? Hope this helps, Chris --- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 >>>>> snip Yes, it *is* possible to run your Black hardware without a monitor. The trick is just to get the NeXT to power on, and boot correctly. This is a rewrite of an older FAQ item attributed to "The Onyx Kitten" who no longer is at this mail address. The only reason for redoing this is to make clearer what exactly needs doing and report my personal experiences in this process. My thanks to Justin Sowers for his insight and assistance. HARDWARE SETUP The task is to build a DB-19 male plug to replace the DB-19 cable coming from your Black monitor. You can also use the more common DB-25 male plug as a replacement, but you will need to crimp (or remove) the pins on the right-hand side of the DB-25 so they are not in the way. An easily obtainable parts list is as follows: Radio Shack SKU# Qty. Description Price (as of 03/96) ------------------------------------------------------------------ 275-1556 1 2 pack Push-button switches $1.99 271-1317 1 5 pack 470 Ohm, .25 Watt resistors 0.49 276-1549 1 Grey housing for DB-25 connector 1.19 276-1429 1 25 pin male D-sub connector 1.99 Total: $5.66 + tax If you are a stickler for exact parts then you can order DB-19 connectors from: Gateway Electronics of St. Louis, San Diego, and Denver 1-800-669-5810 314-427-6116 VOX 314-427-3147 FAX http://www.gatewayelex.com for $1.50/ea. (as of 3/96). Minimum order for mailing: $10. Many thanks to Carl Lowenstein for the pointer to this one. NeXT MegaPixel DB-19 female inside DB-25 male (Connector screwmounts shown for positioning) ________________________________________________ \ _ ................................. / _ \(_) : 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 :/ (_) \ : 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 :/ \ ............................./ ---------------------------------------- DB-19 Pinout: 1= +12 V 7= NC 2= -12 V 8= VSYNC 3= MON CLK 9= HSYNC 4= MON DATA OUT 10= VIDEO 5= MON DATA IN 11= +12V 6= MON PWR SWITCH 12= -12V 13-19= GND THE DONGLE Build the following simple circuit with a momentary push button soldered to the 470 ohm resistor. This assembly should then be wired across pins 6 and 19 of the DB-25 shell. If you have an older cube (030 motherboard) then you will need to be sure that the box draws more power than just for the motherboard in order for the machine to stay on. This can happen in ONE of two ways- 1) You have a disk drive, or other power-drawing internal peripheral connected and in use (not that uncommon), -or- 2) You connect a POWER resistor (20 Ohm, at least 20 Watt) across pins 12 and 13 (as labeled for the DB-19 diagram). I do not recommend the power resitor approach, as the resistor gets _very_ hot and remains an active circuit for the time the machine is on. NeXTStation and 040 cube owners do not have to worry about the idiosyncrasies of the older NeXT power supplies. Here's the circuit: \ Momentary push __ \__ | | | | 470 Ohm $ | | | | | v v To DB-25 pins: 6 19 The soldering involved (resistor to switch terminal & connector pin, and wire to switch terminal & connector pin) takes maybe 10 minutes and is not very technical as the pins are individual so you can attach them to your assembly before you put them into the plastic framework the holds them together as a DB-25 (if you are using the RadioShack parts list above). The power resistor mentioned in the FAQ turns out to be unnecessary if you have anything else in the cube that draws power (a disk, etc.). All of this fits nicely into a plastic DB-25 housing with the pushbutton sticking out where the cable would normally exit. NeXT Cube owners will need to shave down the left (as drawn in illustration) side of the housing inorder to get the "dongle" to fit (the monitor port is at the very bottom of the motherboard and doesn't afford much clearance past the securing screwmount). SOFTWARE SETUP You'll need to be sure your NeXT ROM Monitor settings are correct and that your O/S is ready to run without a monitor. To start, go into the NeXT ROM Monitor (press Command-Command-~) and set the current configuration settings (from "p" in the boot monitor) like this: boot command: whatever DRAM tests: yes perform power-on system test: yes sound out tests: no SCSI tests: no loop until keypress: no verbose test mode: no boot extended diagnostics: no serial port A is alternate console: yes <- recommentation allow any ROM command even if password protected: whatever allow boot from any device even if password protected: whatever allow optical drive #0 eject even if password protected: whatever A few people report they needed to do nothing more on a Cube (level of OS unknown). In my experience on a NeXTstation (NS 3.2), it was necessary to make these changes in /etc/ttys: console "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" NeXT on secure #console /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow NeXT on secure window=/usr/lib/NextStep/WindowServer onoption="/usr/etc/getty std.9600" ttya "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown on secure ttyb "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown on secure A WORD TO THE WISE I would recommend that before you do anything, you make sure you get serial port A working as an alternate console. You can do this with a simple null-modem serial cable connection to a DOS machine running kermit (or other simple-minded terminal emulator). If your black box gets a kernel panic (like mine) and you have disabled the console in /etc/ttys, you might be left in a state where you must re-install to get your machine back up. It seems prudent to always have a serial console solution in case something serious happens and you need to be able to see what is going on. Don't forget that you should remove any printer that is configured for serial port A if you are also using serial port A as an alternate console or serial tty. BOOTING WITHOUT A MONITOR Once the DB plug is built, the ROM Monitor settings are correct, your serial A port console works, and /etc/ttys is correct, then simply power down the NeXT, remove the DB-19 monitor cable, attach your new DB plug and press the momentary switch/button. The box should power on and go through its normal boot sequence. You'll see ROM Monitor messages on the console on serial port A (you are using one, aren't you?). CAVEAT EMPTOR I've tried to be very careful about these instructions, but maybe I missed something, or maybe your situation is somehow different from mine. I might be able to say something that will be helpful, but maybe not. All in all, you are on your own, so be careful. In any case I am not responsible for what you do to your own hardware. -- =================================================================== Terry Gliedt tpg@fv.com MIME OK 507/356-4512 First Virtual Holdings http://www.fv.com/ http://www.hps.com/~tpg/ <<<<< snip #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!not-for-mail From: Paul WINDEY Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color monitor problem Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:14:09 +0100 Organization: Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Lines: 30 Message-ID: <33242541.29B6@lpthe.jussieu.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hello, I have (surprise) a problem with a Color Monitor (Color NeXTStation, non ADB, non turbo). Since it is not the well known diming I hope it could be fixed by bying some part. Here is the problem: -image enlarged horizontally -cycles of normal and dime brightness separated by short interval of totally black screen. I guess that since at times the brightness is fine it is not a problem with the tube. Could it be a simpel part that I could get from god knows where? Otherwise I saw a post from people in Canada (on luoma home page at peak.org) talking about a "pigtail" which permits to connect a standard PC monitor to Black hardware. Does anyone have experience with this device? If yes will it work with any PC monitor, if not what are the pecs the PC monitor should have. Thank you for time and advice -- Paul Windey, LPTHE Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Bte 126 4pl Jussieu F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr tel: 33-01-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121) FAX: 33-01-4427 73 93 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quix Daydream Date: 10 Mar 97 10:53:46 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.60.9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "David Herren" X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Sun, Mar 9, 1997 1:01 PM, Isaac wrote: > 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is > normally used for sound on black hardware.) Would this be true of a system with a SoundBox which doesn't, of course, use the DSP port? > > I've heard it runs System 7.5.5 with no problems. I wonder if anyone's > tried 7.6 on it. WOW! That's impressive. My five PowerMacs can't run System 7 with no problems. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!inn From: Martin Oettle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Wanted: Disktab - entry Date: 10 Mar 1997 14:06:03 GMT Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5g14gb$36h@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Reply-To: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de NNTP-Posting-Host: cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27761 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25762 Hi, I'm looking for a Disktab-entry for an IBM DCAS 34300 Ultra SCSI - 3 HardDisk. Can somebody help me? Thanx in advance Ciao Martin #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!CERN.ch!news From: wiedner@nxcb01.cern.ch (Ulrich Wiedner) Subject: Black Color Monitor Replacement X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nxcb01.cern.ch Message-ID: Keywords: monitor Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:52:24 GMT Lines: 15 Hi everybody, My black FIMI Monitor for my Color NeXTstation just died and I want to replace it with another (non-NeXT) monitor. Now I was just reading in a Sony manual that e.g. the Sony 17SE2T monitor goes into power-saving mode if it receives no signals on the vertical and horizontal synchronization. But with the NeXTstation there are no extra synchronisation signals, just RGB. Does this mean I cannot use one of these modern monitors, because they will automatically go into power-saving mode? Does anyone have experience with this or see a solution? I'd also be grateful for any recommendations of specific model/brand names of 17" monitors that work well with a color NeXTstation. Thanks...Ulrich #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de!news From: Bastian Schlueter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem: NEC CDR-1400C Date: 10 Mar 1997 17:44:13 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5g1h9d$64c@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de Organisation: RRR X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi, does anybody out there got a NEC CDR-1400C CD-ROM to work with NS 3.3? The Driver is detectet by the EIDE (3.35) Driver but then, in the console, there is only the following message repeated over and over and the drive just clicks: hc1: ATAPI Device 0 : Packet command failed. Retrying ... hc1: ATAPI Device 0 : No Data Request: d1 thanks for any help Bastian -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) -- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Quix Daydream Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:59:34 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 29 In article , Mitchell Allen wrote: >On Sun, Mar 9, 1997 1:01 PM, Isaac wrote: >> 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is >> normally used for sound on black hardware.) > >Would this be true of a system with a SoundBox which doesn't, of course, >use the DSP port? Actually, Isaac wasn't quite right. The DSP is not needed for simple sound playback at least from the hardware point of view--the D/A converters and stuff live in the monitor. That's why white machines can do sound withing a DSP- capable sound card. I would imagine that Daydream doesn't support sound for some other reason. >> I've heard it runs System 7.5.5 with no problems. I wonder if anyone's >> tried 7.6 on it. > >WOW! That's impressive. My five PowerMacs can't run System 7 with no >problems. > Well, maybe "the usual problems" would have been a better description. ;) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!132.205.106.4!newsflash.concordia.ca!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!news From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ... on using the wrong monitor on the wrong system ... :^) Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:35:48 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 28 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Hello, I am looking at Sony Color monitor equipped with 13w3 / 4BNC connection. it looks like the signal going through are blue, red, green and composite sync. Could anyone explain to me how composite sync works? I am very close to figuring out how to do this. Regards Nick PS. any pointers? -- B. N. Bondoc pager: 514 - 930 - 1385 ===================================================== office addr: Ernest Rutherford Physics Building Physics Department, McGill University 3600 University Street, Room 223 Montreal, PQ, Canada, H3A 2T8 phone: 514 - 398 - 5938 fax: 514 - 398 - 7022 ===================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i511.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: (HELP) installing & using modem Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:16:01 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 21 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i511.oro.net I am the new owner of a used Turbo Cube... Running a large 21" color display and loving it. Problem is getting my modem to work. I did buy the correct NeXT modem cable as I was told they are different than the mac cable. Anyway, it is a Practical Peripherals 28.8 Fax Modem for the MAC. I did follow all the help files on installation and can get the modem to connect to my MAC over the phone lines and can also get the NeXT Cube to answer an incoming fax from my MAC but after about 30 seconds of connection between the two machines, the NEXT disconnects. My guess is the driver being used for the modem. In my choices list of modems in version 3.3 of the NeXTStep OS, I have only two choices. One is "HSD modem" and the other is "Interfax Modem". I tried each but both kept hanging up. Any help to get this working would be great... Maybe the cable I just purchased is the problem or.... Tom #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i511.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB & (Help) What OS for Turbo Cube Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:19:42 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i511.oro.net I have pre-installed version 3.3 of the NeXTstep OS on my system. Is there a better option out there that I should buy. Tom #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Mitchell Allen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: 10 Mar 97 20:32:58 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5fplfn$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.60.126 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0a1 X-News-Servers: netnews.worldnet.att.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Fri, Mar 7, 1997 1:06 PM, bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > NBIC means NeXTbus Interface Chip. Its a custom chip on the NeXTcube > motherboard for interfacing over the NeXTbus backplane with other > peripheral boards (i.e. the NeXTdimension). All the 040 turbo and > non-Turbo cube motherboards have it, but the original 030 > cubes motherboards do not. NeXTstation mono/color/Turbo motherboards > don't have it as they have no internal NeXTbus expansion bus. Can one remove this chip without hosing the MB? For instance, can you remove it and operate two '040 MB's in the same cube housing? I know you can do this with an '030 board. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [HELP] Installing a cd-rom drive Date: 11 Mar 1997 02:10:08 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5g2eu0$9s@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port14.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: al528580@campus.her.itesm.mx In Francisco Raul Romo Alfaro wrote: > Well, my problem is: > I just got the NeXTStep 3 upgrade (yes, a little late), and a cd-rom > drive (that toshiba recomended in the FAQ), but I just can't install it!. > This is what I am doing and my hardware is a Cube turbo 68040 with 16 > ram, bios v59, and the original 400 meg hdd and floppy, runnig NeXTstep > 2.x. The machine has not been "touched" since it was brought (no > upgrades, no nothing) > After connecting the drive and setting it up at device no. 2, > I turned on the cube and press and "~". Then I write the following > line (with the cd in the drive): bsd (2,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd2 . The > machine's response is NO SCSI drive. > I have not yet run the software on the 3.5" disk which comes on the package > any clue? thanks > the only clue, run the software on the 3.5" disk which comes on the package. > -Francisco Romo as I recall NeXT needs to teach the cube about the CD-ROM drive, hence the floppy. try that then see. it's been a few since I did the 2.x >> 3.0 upgrade, but I think that's it. Of course, that was with the NeXT CD-ROM drive, don't imagine the FAQ would steer you wrong, so the toshiba should work... -rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!news.pacbell.net!atossell From: atossell@wenet.net (Allan Tossell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 040 Mono Cube won't boot/black screen. Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:15:33 -0800 Organization: A customer of Pacific Bell Internet Services Lines: 28 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-206-170-68-158.irvn11.pacbell.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Hi. I am brand new to NeXT but have some experience with Mac and PC hardware. Received my "new" 040 mono cube today, with a Seagate ST1480N hard drive shipped separately with NEXTSTEP 3.2 (I think) installed. This was supposedly an ex-govt. machine and had original drive gutted. I installed the drive in the bay and connected it per the cursory instructions I'd been given over the phone from the broker. After connecting the monitor cable, keyboard, mouse, and power cord, I powered on the machine, got a "beep" sound, fan noise from the cube, but the screen remained black, and there was no disk-read noise. The monitor appeared to be getting power, since heat was noticeable from the top. In checking the ribbon cable for the hard drive, I see what appear to be identical connectors, one at the end, one in the middle. Attaching either one to the back end of the drive accomplishes nothing. There are two power connectors for hard drives; one was tie-wrapped to the power-supply assembly, the other one was floating loose, so the latter was the one I plugged in. The broker from whom I bought this system is out of town till mid-week, and I had hoped to at least get the system up and running today. Am I missing something idiotically simple on this drive installation and setup? Thanks for any suggestions or assistance. Regards, Allan Tossell atossell@wenet.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can NS run on this notebook? Date: 11 Mar 1997 03:34:32 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 21 Sender: -no- @pm287-00.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5g2js8$ni3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm287-00.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Can NS run on the following notebook? It is for sale in Europe and Asia, not sure about the US (yet). Model: Chicony MP-975 Display size: 13.3" !!! (Active TFT) Video circuity: Chips and Technologies 65550 PCI with 2 MB video RAM Number of colors: 65.536 Resolution: 1.204 x 768 Processor: 166 or 200MHz Pentium This would be a cool machine to run NS on, but I am not sure about the drivers. Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Message-ID: <332215F5.736@lamg.com> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 17:44:21 -0800 From: Greg Neagle X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Help: ATI mach64 problems References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> <5frrac$40r0@news.doit.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Lines: 14 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!la-news1.digilink.net!capital.caprica.com Ted Allen wrote: >Greg Neagle wrote: >> I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the >> all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI >> mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in >> any mode but 640x480 grayscale. >> [text snipped] >> >> Any help or advice appreciated. > >Do you have the PCIBus driver loaded? Yes - PCI Bus Support(v4.00). Configure.app sees it as a PCI card, even though it's actually integrated onto the motherboard. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lr.fr!usenet From: msevestr@garion4 (SEVESTRE MATTHIEU) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Win NT4.0 & Next 3.3 Date: 11 Mar 1997 12:47:47 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5g3k9j$7tm@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: garion4.univ-lr.fr X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8) Does anyone tryed to have both Win NT 4 & Nexstep on the same disk? Thank you. Matt #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!nntp.msstate.edu!night.primate.wisc.edu!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [HELP] Installing a cd-rom drive Date: 11 Mar 1997 02:33:15 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g2g9b$nvq@usenet.rpi.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu Francisco Raul Romo Alfaro writes: > After connecting the drive and setting it up at device no. 2, I > turned on the cube and press and "~". Then I write the > following line (with the cd in the drive): > bsd (2,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd2 > The machine's response is NO SCSI drive. > > I have not yet run the software on the 3.5" disk which comes on > the package Put the floppy in the floppy drive. when you're in the monitor, type: bfd (boot off floppy disk). The floppy will find the cd-rom, and things should work fine. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!nntp.msstate.edu!night.primate.wisc.edu!tmpnews.crd.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.3 or OS 4.1 on 040/25 with 32 Megs of RAM Date: 11 Mar 1997 03:11:48 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5g2ihk$ong@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5fvuqn$jnb@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: > I've tried for months, unsuccesfully to get either NS 3.3 > Developer or a more recent NeXTSTEP Operating system on > c.s.n.m and I'm about to bite the bullet and buy an OS. > > Am I better of getting 3.3, an OS which the 040 is more > closely optimized for, or 4.1 which someday I might be > able to use in a Pentium. Note that NS-3.3 works on a Pentium too -- this reply is coming off a Pentium system. Of course, it'll depend on the specifics of the pentium system you're buying into (cards, etc). The big advantage with 4.1 would be that it's all of the OpenStep API's, which are the API's you should be working with now. It'd be a shame to develop something on NS-3.3 only to have a bunch of extra work to do if you were going to run it on Rhapsody, or Solaris, or GNUstep (when that comes out). > Does loading up with memory, say to 64 Megs of RAM > tilt the decision toward getting 4.1? More memory would certainly be nice for 4.1. I haven't installed 4.1 yet (even though I own a copy!), because the two main NeXTstations I could put it on both max out at 32 meg. I could put it on this NS/Intel box, but I haven't had the time yet... The trick is that I want to have the option of falling back to NS-3.3 on Intel, so I want to set up some dual-boot situation. Certainly doable, but I haven't done it yet. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!rparkhil From: rparkhil@bnr.ca (Rob Parkhill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation RAM question Date: 11 Mar 1997 15:10:54 GMT Organization: NORTEL - Northern Telecom Canada Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Reply-To: rparkhil@nortel.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: bcnrh6a.bnr.ca Howdy Folks: I finally got around to putting some more RAM into my NeXTstation machine at home. I went from 8MB (8x1MB 30-pin) to 20MB (4x1MB + 4x4MB 30-pin). However, of the four 4MB SIMMS I used, 3 are 80ns, and one is 70ns. Could this cause any problems? It seems to work OK (system recognizes the memory, tells me I have 20MB of RAM), but the load on my system seems to have gone up a small amount. 'uptime' reports loads of between .3 and .5 all the time, even when the only application running is the Workspace Manager. Is it the mixed RAM, or is it my imagination? At least my swapdrive is a lot quieter now :-) thanks... Rob -- Rob Parkhill, Software Guy, Nortel | "How's this for a future vision: Scott rparkhil@nortel.ca | McNealy has Bill Gates in a headlock, members.tripod.com/~parkhill | while Larry Ellison kicks Bill in the +1 613 763 6264 (Ottawa, Ontario) | groin and swipes his wallet." - Alex Lash #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:41:45 GMT References: <5fplfn$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article , Mitchell Allen wrote: >Can one remove this chip without hosing the MB? Not while it's turned on. ;-) >For instance, can you >remove it and operate two '040 MB's in the same cube housing? I know you >can do this with an '030 board. > Sure, I've talked to people who have done this. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub3.barrnet.net!nntp-hub3.barrnet.net!news From: rdingman@cc.mcafee.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:21:42 GMT Organization: McAfee Associates, Inc. Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5g44b6$2t2@news.mcafee.com> References: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.227.133.228 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:28520 comp.sys.next.misc:25319 comp.sys.next.hardware:27778 To install NS3.3(everything in English) it takes about 250MB. ryan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation RAM question Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:19:12 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <0n9NEEG00iWYQ5p34h@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Mar-97 NeXTstation RAM question by Rob Parkhill@bnr.ca > I finally got around to putting some more RAM into my > NeXTstation machine at home. I went from 8MB (8x1MB 30-pin) > to 20MB (4x1MB + 4x4MB 30-pin). > > However, of the four 4MB SIMMS I used, 3 are 80ns, and one is 70ns. > > Could this cause any problems? It won't make a bit of difference-- the NeXT machines using 30-pin SIMMs run them at 100 ns, and faster chips (well, up to a certain point) don't matter. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!harrier.nvc.cc.ca.us!fozztexx From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nvcc Message-ID: Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:54:55 GMT Lines: 12 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25793 comp.sys.next.hardware:27780 comp.sys.next.misc:25322 comp.periphs.scsi:73012 linux.scsi:1 I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it that it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and should have over 8million sectors? -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Win NT4.0 & Next 3.3 Date: 11 Mar 1997 19:17:57 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5g4b55$2f9@news.next.com> References: <5g3k9j$7tm@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Reply-To: mark_bessey@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bananajr.next.com SEVESTRE MATTHIEU writes > Does anyone tryed to have both Win NT 4 & Nexstep on the same disk? > > Thank you. > > Matt Why yes, we have. Works great, although it's tricky getting the NT booter to boot NEXTSTEP. I did get it working once, but I've since forgot how to set it up, and went back to using the NeXT booter... -Mark -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: (HELP) installing & using modem Date: 11 Mar 1997 22:12:13 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5g4lbt$f57@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port8.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: tj@oro.net In Thomas Ferreira wrote: > I am the new owner of a used Turbo Cube... Running a large 21" color > display and loving it. Problem is getting my modem to work. I did buy > the correct NeXT modem cable as I was told they are different than the mac > cable. > > > My guess is the driver being used for the modem. In my choices list of > modems in version 3.3 of the NeXTStep OS, I have only two choices. One is > "HSD modem" and the other is "Interfax Modem". I tried each but both kept > hanging up. > Maybe the cable I just purchased is the problem or.... cable is most likely fine. driver is most likely not. the fax solution of choice for NeXT is Black&White Software's NXFax which works wonderfully, if you have a supported modem. I would try to contact either the NXFax folks or the NSFaq's for a list. Don't recall Practical Peripherals on the "list" but haven't looked in awhile. > > Tom > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB & (Help) What OS for Turbo Cube Date: 11 Mar 1997 22:19:47 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5g4lq3$f57@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port8.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: tj@oro.net In Thomas Ferreira wrote: > I have pre-installed version 3.3 of the NeXTstep OS on my system. Is > there a better option out there that I should buy. > > Tom > popular wisdom says that unless you are developing for OpenStep compliancy (including Rhapsody), 3.3 will do you fine. I don't recall if you have 3.3 User & Developer or just 3.3 User. the apps are, or maybe I should say, the user experience is mostly the same anyway. if you have edu discount and extra $300.00 you can't lose too much though getting 4.x (currently 4.1, 4.2 due real soon now.) One thing OPENSTEP/MACH gets you is preinstalled PPP. Another thing is newer NEXTIME. Both 3.3 and 4.x have MIME capable Mail. -Rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pumpkin.pangea.ca!not-for-mail From: siren@surf.pangea.ca (Betty Siren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 11 Mar 1997 15:39:20 -0600 Organization: Pangea.CA, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5g4je8$975@surf.pangea.ca> References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <5ftnsd$61j@rumah.pc.my> <5fu3t4$8ad@nntp1.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: surf.pangea.ca X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) dchin@u.washington.edu (Davin Chin) writes: >Yes you can start up the machine, but you have to change some files in /etc to >to tell the machine not to start up the window server or else it will go into >a panic because it can't talk to the moniter's circutry to render the dps. >(at least thats what I think it is) Also, even if you do that, I don't believe >you can use it as a printserver because the dps circutry that is used to run the >printer requires that the windowserver be running, and windowserver requires the >the moniter. If anyone can prove me wrong on the last point I'd be really happy On a headless cube, getting rid of the English lady's voice might postpone the kernel panic. A sound box fixed it. I wouldn't run WindowServer without one. I now just use the headless cube for an extra OD, so need neither WindowServer nor the sound box. Would love to run 2 OD's on 1 cube but don't know how. ... Richard Tilley #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.nm.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.maxwell.syr.edu!demos!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!not-for-mail From: "Lukas Klement" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanjet IIP Date: 11 Mar 1997 23:04:51 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bc2ea2$7e8d4b60$4d03e289@lukas> NNTP-Posting-Host: s2m077.dialup.rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 I am thinking about buying Openstep. That's why I'd like to know, if it is possible to use a HP Scanner, Model Scanjet IIp in Openstep. Is there anything comparable to a Twain-Driver? I havn't found anything on the HP WWW-Page! Bye Lukas lk32170@pbox.dialup.rwth-aachen.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!news From: wongj@rpi.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Mystique Date: 12 Mar 1997 01:51:28 GMT Organization: IDT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5g5270$g2k@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> Reply-To: wongj@rpi.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: hingham132.pcix.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Does anyone know if there is a Matrox Mystique display driver out for NS3.3 for Intel? Jasper -- --< NeXT >--| Table Tennis | \ / | Volleyball |--< BeBox >-- | Gergely / TSP X / RITC 802 \ / Tachikara SC-5W / Mizuno | | wongj@rpi.edu, jwong@bccn.org \ / IRC: mizzle @ #unix, #next | --< Homepage forever under .... \/ .... construction >NeXTMail>-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!deceased.hb.north.de!gina.zfn.uni-bremen.de!news.dfn.de!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!gatech!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: cybobob@mindspring.com (CyboBob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.1 Intel hangs after Starting Up for first time Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:10:46 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 15 Message-ID: <313f8f14.853043@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip39.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 12 Mar 1997 04:11:23 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.381 I just finished installing the Nextstep Essentials and added devices. In the installation manual, it says after I do this, I'm supposed to pick the language and keyboard settings, but instead the following happens. After booting, a window titled something like "Starting OpenStep" says, "Starting Services", "Checking Disks", etc. Then says "Startup Completed". After this, the screen doesn't change, but the HD light keeps blinking. I let it do this for about 20 min after deciding it wasn't doing anything. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Nick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: spamblock.jimmilz@worldnet.att.net (Jim Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 05:44:29 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 22 Message-ID: <332641a1.4099545@netnews.worldnet.att.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.162.6 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25804 comp.sys.next.hardware:27788 comp.sys.next.misc:25325 comp.periphs.scsi:73050 linux.scsi:2 fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) wrote: > >I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's >block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still >leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it that >it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and should >have over 8million sectors? > >-- >Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College >707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. >707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 > After issuing the command to set the blocksize to 512 (mode page 03h bytes 12 and 13), are you sending the FORMAT UNIT command to the drive? Regards, Jim Miller Chicagoland #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: cybobob@mindspring.com (CyboBob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.1 won't startup after just installing Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:10:48 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 11 Message-ID: <313f9090.1233103@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip39.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 12 Mar 1997 04:11:25 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.381 After booting OpenStep (after installing the essentials and configuring devices), a window titled something like "Starting OpenStep" says, "Starting Services", "Checking Disks", etc. Then says "Startup Completed". After this, the screen doesn't change, but the HD light keeps blinking. I let it do this for about 20 min after deciding it wasn't doing anything. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: cybobob@mindspring.com (CyboBob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep for Intel won't startup after just installing Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:10:48 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3140900b.1100270@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip39.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 12 Mar 1997 04:11:24 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.381 After booting OpenStep (after installing the essentials and configuring devices), a window titled something like "Starting OpenStep" says, "Starting Services", "Checking Disks", etc. Then says "Startup Completed". After this, the screen doesn't change, but the HD light keeps blinking. I let it do this for about 20 min after deciding it wasn't doing anything. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: jut@ukrv.de (Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.1 Intel hangs after Starting Up for first time Date: 12 Mar 1997 09:07:18 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5g5ro6$t80$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <313f8f14.853043@news.mindspring.com> Reply-To: jut@ukrv.de (Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.-U. Thieme) NNTP-Posting-Host: gatekeeper.ukrv.de X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: cybobob@mindspring.com In <313f8f14.853043@news.mindspring.com> CyboBob wrote: > I just finished installing the Nextstep Essentials and added devices. > > In the installation manual, it says after I do this, I'm supposed to > pick the language and keyboard settings, but instead the following > happens. > > After booting, a window titled something like "Starting OpenStep" > says, "Starting Services", "Checking Disks", etc. Then says "Startup > Completed". After this, the screen doesn't change, but the HD light > keeps blinking. I let it do this for about 20 min after deciding it > wasn't doing anything. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. Post your hardware-list please. Any videocardÂs have problems with graphic-boot in context with any motherboards. Use "config=default" on the "boot:"-prompt (startup with the defaults and only in standard vga). Is the system ok, then read the NeXTAnswers (see 1001-masterdocument for searching your videocard). CIAO JUT > > Nick > -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - -------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!Hanover.Germany.EU.net!dvs-hannover.de!jork From: jork@dvs-hannover.de (Ralf Jork) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Date: 12 Mar 1997 10:50:40 GMT Organization: DVS GmbH Hannover Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: neptun.dvs-hannover.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25809 comp.sys.next.hardware:27792 comp.sys.next.misc:25326 comp.periphs.scsi:73074 linux.scsi:3 Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: : I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's : block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still : leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it that : it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and should : have over 8million sectors? Set the appropriate number of blocks in the block descriptor for a Mode Select command (all 0 or 0xFF might work as well - depending from manufacturer and model). See the Seagate "Disc Drive ... Product Manual, Volume 2" for more info. -- Ralf. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!neon.house.gov!news From: Don McKinnon Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I need software support help in DC Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:40:11 -0500 Organization: U.S. House of Representatives Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3326B23B.27E7@mail.house.gov> Reply-To: Don.McKinnon@mail.house.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.231.254.142 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) I have no NeXT skills. I have a slab I've been using since 1990 and I need to hire someone to fix a few bugs that have accumulated: I can connect to Novell server, but I can't get printer connectivity. My memory seems to run out and crash everything. I need to have someone help me set up my modem. If its possible, I'd like to be able to connect to an NT server and to determine if I could run NeXT and Windows 95 from the same machine. If you or someone you know could help, please let me know what your hourly rate would be. Thanks and regards, Don McKinnon 202 225 2770 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Date: 12 Mar 1997 14:15:57 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5g6dqt$1hk6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: >In article <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Markus Gloede > writes: >I haven't done it on my own so I can't give you type numbers or other >specs but I recommend thermocontrolled Pabst fans (German made quality >parts ;-) Likely not to be sold at RadioShack :-( Part no., please :-) Some of us live in Germany, and can get Pabst fans without problems ;-) >The disk drive noise is much more common to be the real problem. Due to a >design flaw in the mounting bracket there is no good way other as to >remove the drive and put it in an external enclosure. I've recently bought a 2GB Fireball, since it get's only luke warm, and it's basically noiseless. You'd think there's no disk drive in the machine at all, it's really very quiet. I'm aware that some people have problems with Quantum drives, but I suspect that those are Atlas drives and other high rpm drives. The fireball rotates at merely 5600, and hence is a lot less noisy, gets less hot, and hopefully :-) lives longer. Many greetings, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cyclic.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.kolumbus.fi!news.funet.fi!news.cs.hut.fi!news.clinet.fi!uunet!in2.uu.net!129.35.248.10!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!sjnews.sanjose.ibm.com!watnews.watson.ibm.com!grimsel.zurich.ibm.com!fritz.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com From: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Mystique Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 08:19:14 Organization: IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5g5lds$134m@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> References: <5g5270$g2k@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 9.164.177.55 X-Newsreader: IBM-WebExplorer-DLL There is no driver. It is possible that the Mill. driver will do the job. But they have a different chip set. As You will find in all pages from NeXT... they won't support NS3.3 with new drivers nor upgrades. In the case of display drivers You can use them from OS4.0 maybe OS4.1. I by myself using a OS4.0 Matrox driver under NS3.3. Henry #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quix Daydream References: From: Darren Reely X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.45.66.37 Message-ID: <3324f4ab.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 11 Mar 97 05:59:07 GMT Lines: 17 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!newshub.tc.umn.edu!skypoint.com!scipio.cyberstore.ca!199.45.66.37 "Mitchell Allen" wrote: >On Sun, Mar 9, 1997 1:01 PM, Isaac wrote: >> 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is >> normally used for sound on black hardware.) > >Would this be true of a system with a SoundBox which doesn't, of course, >use the DSP port? The physical DSP port is not this issue. It is the DSP chip itself. It is used to generate sounds. Having to applications with high requirements running at the same time may be difficult. Although, Next had it doing multitasking sound. I have actually played two sound files simultaneously! It is like trying to listen to two tv channels at once. Very difficult for us humans to make sense of it. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.gwdg.de!news From: Timm Wetzel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: S3GenericDisplayDriver: tunable parameters / SPEA Mercury? Date: 12 Mar 1997 16:26:23 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi, is there any info/documentation on how to modify the innards of the S3GenericDisplayDriver settings for specific hardware? I am thinking of the chip id strings and the like. Background: I'd like to use a SPEA Mercury VL (S3 928) with a NS3.3 Intel system, but the S3Generic driver fails to load with the following messages (beta, released and 4.01 driver versions): Get Controller Info returned error (eax = 0x4f00) Display0: could not determine memory size _IOProbeDriver: No such device, device S3GenericDisplayDriver unit 0 The system then falls back to VGA. If this merely means that the 928 is not detected because of Spea-specific implementation differences, I'd like to know how to adapt (and interpret :-) the driver's expert settings. Does anyone know whether the Spea Mercury VL works with NS3.3 at all? Hardware config follows. Hardware Configuration: Processor: I386 (Intel 586) Primary memory: 16.00 MB Hostname: sidney Boot Drivers Floppy PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B EISABus ISASerialPort Drivers: Floppy at IRQ 6; DMA 2; ports 0x3f2-0x3f7 PS2Keyboard at IRQ 1; ports 0x60-0x65 Adaptec 154x at IRQ 11; DMA 5; ports 0x330-0x333 EISABus at IRQ 2; ports 0x00-0x0f 0x20-0x21 0x40-0x4b 0x70-0x71 0x81-0x8F 0x92-0x92 0xc0-0xcf System Serial at IRQ 4; ports 0x3f8-0x3ff System Serial at IRQ 3; ports 0x2f8-0x2ff EtherLink III ISA at IRQ 10; ports 0x300-0x30f 0x110-0x110 Serial Mouse S3 Generic VL ports 0x3b0-0x3df map 0x03800000-0x03ffffff 0xa0000-0xbffff 0xc0000-0xcffff; >EoP7< Timm --- Timm Wetzel Max-Planck-Institut fuer biophysikalische Chemie, Abt. 081 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!homer.alpha.net!not-for-mail From: Everette Edmondson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: for sale Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:24:24 -0600 Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3326D8B8.6F23@hnet.net> Reply-To: edmondson@hnet.net NNTP-Posting-Host: d109.hnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) vlb soundblaster 3d video card 2 megs of ram $200.00 plus shipping. snappy video grabber $175.00 plus shipping video capture board color $40.00 plus shipping vlb io card $40.00 plus shippping #################################################################### From: goextreme@hotmail.com Subject: Great Help Page for Newbies and Power Users Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Extreme Net NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.134.84.73 Message-ID: <3326b815.0@news1.betacom.net> Date: 12 Mar 97 14:05:09 GMT Lines: 53 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.betacom.net! 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Members of [freespeech] Campaign and [AOL SUX Get a REAL ISP Campaign] #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!harrier.nvc.cc.ca.us!fozztexx From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nvcc Message-ID: Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:57:41 GMT Lines: 19 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25820 comp.sys.next.hardware:27800 comp.sys.next.misc:25329 comp.periphs.scsi:73092 linux.scsi:4 In article <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de>, Ralf Jork wrote: >Set the appropriate number of blocks in the block descriptor for a >Mode Select command (all 0 or 0xFF might work as well - depending >from manufacturer and model). >See the Seagate "Disc Drive ... Product Manual, Volume 2" for more info. It has been getting set to all 0, but the drive doesn't want to change the sector count. In fact, after formatting, when you do a MODE SENSE, the drive returns the number of blocks as 0. How do I know what the appropriate number of blocks *should* be? I can guess, but I don't know it precisely. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!harrier.nvc.cc.ca.us!fozztexx From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nvcc Message-ID: Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <332641a1.4099545@netnews.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:54:05 GMT Lines: 15 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25821 comp.sys.next.hardware:27801 comp.sys.next.misc:25330 comp.periphs.scsi:73093 linux.scsi:5 In article <332641a1.4099545@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, Jim Miller wrote: >After issuing the command to set the blocksize to 512 (mode page 03h >bytes 12 and 13), are you sending the FORMAT UNIT command to the >drive? Yes, that's what I've been doing. Unfortunately the drive doesn't want to change its sector count from what it was when the block size was at 2048. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!omni2!dwright1 From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: 12 Mar 1997 18:09:00 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5g6rfs$g8f@news1.voicenet.com> References: <5fplfn$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni2.voicenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : In article , : Mitchell Allen wrote: : >Can one remove this chip without hosing the MB? : Not while it's turned on. ;-) : >For instance, can you : >remove it and operate two '040 MB's in the same cube housing? I know you : >can do this with an '030 board. : > You sure can, but make sure you do the backplane modification also... -Darren #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.icm.edu.pl!uw.edu.pl!news.nask.pl!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!03-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!newsfeed.wu-wien.ac.at!obelix.wu-wien.ac.at!h9001648 From: h9001648@obelix.wu-wien.ac.at (marcus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2920? Date: 12 Mar 1997 18:23:39 GMT Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5g6sbb$7ad@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: obelix.wu-wien.ac.at X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Is there any chance that Openstep will ever support the Adaptec 2920 (Future Domain 16XX) SCSI controller? Am I dreaming? thanx, Marcus #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de!news From: Bastian Schlueter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Win NT4.0 & Next 3.3 Date: 11 Mar 1997 19:50:02 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5g4d1a$8eb@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <5g3k9j$7tm@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de Organisation: RRR X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) msevestr@garion4 (SEVESTRE MATTHIEU) wrote: > Does anyone tryed to have both Win NT 4 & Nexstep on the same disk? Yes, no problem. ciao Bastian -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Rich Markle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" Inch Mega Pixel? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:07:21 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <33265629.6FB6@earthlink.net> Reply-To: rmarkle@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pool026.maxa.los-angeles.ca.us.dynip.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Are there any such things as a 21" Color MegaPixel? I keep seeing Hitachi, Fimi, Trinitron. I realize that these refer to the tube manufacturers, but are any of these MegaPixel with the Frog Design stand? -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@eartlink.net (310)442-8086 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!visi.com!not-for-mail From: David Young Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 12 Mar 1997 20:12:36 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5g72nk$a3r$1@darla.visi.com> References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: object.metaverse.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970123] Rich Markle wrote: : How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are : there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have : to do to make it work. Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a : standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, : then the monitor later. Lastly, does the ND Board Help or hurt speed? Not hard at all. Open case, slide board in. It drives MegaPixel color displays, if that's what you mean. Get a 21". Speed is a relative comparison; the idea behind the board was that it was to make 32bpp as fast as 2bpp. It's pretty fast, nonetheless. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Rich Markle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:05:22 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> Reply-To: rmarkle@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pool026.maxa.los-angeles.ca.us.dynip.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have to do to make it work. Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, then the monitor later. Lastly, does the ND Board Help or hurt speed? I am thinking in terms of usability (subjective) not benchmarks (oblective). Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@eartlink.net (310)442-8086 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news.icm.edu.pl!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <3326b815.0@news1.betacom.net> Date: 12 Mar 1997 19:00:53 GMT Control: cancel <3326b815.0@news1.betacom.net> Message-ID: Sender: goextreme@hotmail.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.enteract.com!news.inetnebr.com!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2920? Date: 12 Mar 1997 20:16:37 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5g72v5$9i4@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5g6sbb$7ad@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: mathlab44.unl.edu In article <5g6sbb$7ad@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> h9001648@obelix.wu-wien.ac.at (marcus) writes: > Is there any chance that Openstep will ever support the Adaptec 2920 > (Future Domain 16XX) SCSI controller? Am I dreaming? Yes, you are probably dreaming. Either go with little or no hassle EIDE, or get a good BusMastering SCSI card. SymbiosLogic PCI boards can be found for <$100. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 12 Mar 1997 21:03:09 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Rich Markle wrote: >How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are >there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have >to do to make it work. Simple. Just unscrew the back and slide it in slot 2, just to the left of the power supply. No cables, nothing. Just works! >Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a >standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, >then the monitor later. Nope. You need a color monitor. The ND board video out drives one of the NeXT color monitors, or anything with a sync-on-green 3W13 plug (like most SUNs I think). But you can keep your old mono MegaPixel plugged into the 040 board at the same time and double your viewable workspace area, which is quite nice. >Lastly, does the ND Board Help or hurt speed? >I am thinking in terms of usability (subjective) not benchmarks >(oblective). Thanks in advance for all your help. If you have a double-headed ND system then the ND board will have zero affect on anything on the mono side of the workspace. It only gets used for drawing color stuff. It has little/no overhead on other system operations (e.g. disk i/o, DSP, etc) so you should see no change in performance over your mono Cube for mono apps. The question then becomes how does the ND compare to a color NeXT system, to which I have no good answer. The ND has a dedicated processor which offloads a lot of the drawing duties from the 040, but then it is also doing stuff in 32 bit color instead of 8! Personally, if you already have a NeXTcube, love old NeXT hardware and can get your hands on an ND board cheap then go for it. You can always use the color monitor and memory (the ND takes up to 64MB - 8x8MB 72pin SIMMs) if you upgrade later. - Gareth PS - I'll be posting something about a new NeXTdimension mailing list and web site in teh next day or so. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!news From: wongj@rpi.edu (Jasper Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Mystique Date: 13 Mar 1997 00:29:28 GMT Organization: IDT Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5g7hp8$eh7@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> References: <5g5270$g2k@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> <5g5lds$134m@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> Reply-To: wongj@rpi.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: hingham65.pcix.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com In <5g5lds$134m@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> Koplien@vnet.IBM.com wrote: > There is no driver. It is possible that the Mill. driver will do the job. But they have a > different chip set. As You will find in all pages from NeXT... they won't support NS3.3 with > new drivers nor upgrades. In the case of display drivers You can use them from OS4.0 maybe > OS4.1. I by myself using a OS4.0 Matrox driver under NS3.3. > > Henry > Thanks for the info....hmmm, I don't think the Mill driver will work though. Jasper -- --< NeXT >--| Table Tennis | \ / | Volleyball |--< BeBox >-- | Gergely / TSP X / RITC 802 \ / Tachikara SC-5W / Mizuno | | wongj@rpi.edu, jwong@bccn.org \ / IRC: mizzle @ #unix, #next | --< Homepage forever under .... \/ .... construction >NeXTMail>-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!usenet From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 12 Mar 1997 23:56:23 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5g7fr7$etf@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> <5g10bc$1kcr@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Reply-To: clowenstein@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM In <5g10bc$1kcr@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote: > Hi everybody, > > since there was some demand for it, please find enclosed a posting > by Terry Gliedt which describes the "hardware dongle" needed to > powerup a monitorless mono station or cube. Please note that, as > Michael Olan has pointed out, the main purpose of the dongle is > being able to turn the machine on without the keyboard attached, > and that using the "auto restart after power failure" feature > is be another simple option to start the machine, provided you > have a BIOS version that supports it. > > Please note the paragraph about the power resistor necessary > if the machine has no internal disks installed. > > If memory serves me right, NeXT's power supply needs a certain > amount of power drawn from it. Does anybody know whether the > amount of power drawn from an internal disk is really sufficient > to keep the power supply alive? My most recent experience with 3 different NeXT Cube power supplies is that "it all depends". I could not find any correlation with age of the power supply as indicated by serial number, and whether it would turn on without the load of the MegaPixel monitor. Apparently the power supply needs to have some current drawn from the -12V leg as well as from the +12V. Both the cooling fan and the hard drive draw from the +12V supply. I tried various values of resistance as a load on the -12V supply, and found that a resistor of 120 ohms, making a current drain of 100mA, was sufficient in all cases. Remember that many Cubes with 68040 processor boards were originally 68030 NeXTs that got upgraded early on, and have old power supplies. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in2.uu.net!207.76.102.250!newman.pcisys.net!news From: advertise@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NOTIFICATION OF BYTEWARE CAFE'S SPECIALS Date: 12 Mar 1997 23:11:54 GMT Organization: http://www.bytewarecafe.com Lines: 66 Message-ID: <5g7d7q$8qt@newman.pcisys.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.76.102.212 Summary: CD-ROM DRIVES, FAX/MODEM DRIVES, HARD DRIVES, MEMORY, NETWORK CARDS, SCANNER, VIDEO CARDS. Keywords: CD-ROM DRIVES, FAX/MODEM DRIVES, HARD DRIVES, MEMORY, NETWORK CARDS, SCANNER, VIDEO CARDS. 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We accept MC/VISA/AMEX - NO SURCHARGE! Thank you. Prices are subject to change without notice. March 12, 1997 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:35:46 GMT References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g72nk$a3r$1@darla.visi.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 28 In article <5g72nk$a3r$1@darla.visi.com>, David Young wrote: >Not hard at all. Open case, slide board in. > ...and close the case again. :) You'll also need a Sound Box if you aren't going to run your mono display as well. You can run both displays at once and get a nice big wide workspace. >It drives MegaPixel color displays, if that's what you mean. Get a 21". The 21" monitors are really nice. Not super-crisp like a Trinitron but not fuzzy either. Scanned images look phenomenal! And yes, text is sharp enough to read for hours. >Speed is a relative comparison; the idea behind the board was that >it was to make 32bpp as fast as 2bpp. It's pretty fast, nonetheless. > You can tell the difference--windows don't move as smoothly as they do with the mono video. However, it's not annoying. Given the quality of the display I doubt the speed will bother you. My only annoyance is that damn noisy fan in my 21"....grrrr.... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 21" Inch Mega Pixel? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:32:21 GMT References: <33265629.6FB6@earthlink.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 20 In article <33265629.6FB6@earthlink.net>, Rich Markle wrote: >Are there any such things as a 21" Color MegaPixel? Yes; I have aone on my desk. >I keep seeing >Hitachi, Fimi, Trinitron. I realize that these refer to the tube >manufacturers, but are any of these MegaPixel with the Frog Design >stand? > No, there were no colour monitors sold that were based on the NeXT/FrogDesign design. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:41:03 -0600 From: kinnard@ibm.net Subject: FS:NeXT N4000 Monitor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <858216763.18371@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Mar 13 01:32:43 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 166.72.221.95 (slip166-72-221-95.tx.us.ibm.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.02 (Win95; I; 16bit) X-Authenticated-Sender: kinnard@ibm.net Lines: 10 I have an older N4000 without microphone that is supposed to be good. I don't have any way to test it so will sell at a parts price of $30. This is for pick up in Austin, TX only. I don't want to try to ship it. The tag on the inside says "SONY N4000". I will ship the PC boards if someone wants just those parts. Email kinnard@ibm.net -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:33:12 GMT References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 57 In article <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu>, wrote: >Nope. You need a color monitor. The ND board video out drives one of the >NeXT color monitors, or anything with a sync-on-green 3W13 plug (like >most SUNs I think). I've found at least one Sun monitor that refused to work with the ND. It's a Trinitron one with the stupid remote-control for the brightness and such. I only mucked with it for about two minutes, though, so perhaps it could be made to work. >If you have a double-headed ND system then the ND board will have zero >affect on anything on the mono side of the workspace. Although this is technically true, there's a subtle gotcha. Normally, a mono screen will be run in, for lack of a better term, "native 2bpp mode". By this I mean that the Windowserver will dig out the 2bpp formats from TIFF files, will make your Workspace background colour nice, won't try to shade the dock, and so on. However, if you run dual-headed the whole workspace (ie. the stuff on both monitors) is stored at 32bpp. It will be dithered down to 2bpp on the mono screen. What this means is that application icons may not look as good as they once did, since they're no longer using the human-optimised 2bpp images. Furthermore your background may also be dithered, which is mightally annoying. It's been a couple of years since I've run dual-headed, so I can't remember whether the dock rectangles will be shaded or not. This is all under 3.2. Perhaps subsequent releases have some super-cool fix for this annoyance. >It >only gets used for drawing color stuff. It has little/no overhead on >other system operations (e.g. disk i/o, DSP, etc) so you should see no >change in performance over your mono Cube for mono apps. That's true. However, since rendering is now done at 32bpp, window backing stores will be MUCH larger than before. It's a good idea to stuff lots of memory on the ND board to prevent it sucking up all your system board RAM and then paging to disk. I have 36MB on mine and am pretty happy. >The ND has a dedicated processor which offloads a lot >of the drawing duties from the 040, but then it is also doing stuff in 32 >bit color instead of 8! > Quick correction. The i860 on the ND "only" does rectangular blits and bitmap scaling--the DPS interpretation is still done by the '040. Also, Color slabs use 16bpp, not 8. >Personally, if you already have a NeXTcube, love old NeXT >hardware and can get your hands on an ND board cheap then go for it. For sure. Like I said before, it's one of the most beautiful displays I've ever seen. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.kolumbus.fi!news.funet.fi!news.cs.hut.fi!news.clinet.fi!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703112320.SAA10120@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 0746fd8d2f00f559886c356942ccaa25 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:20:07 -0500 Subject: Re: WTB & (Help) What OS for Turbo Cube Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 0746fd8d2f00f559886c356942ccaa25 - Lines: 32 Responding To: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Original Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:19:42 GMT Message-ID: 0746fd8d2f00f559886c356942ccaa25 - > I have pre-installed version 3.3 of the NeXTstep OS on my system. > Is there a better option out there that I should buy. "better" here is a relative term. If you want the latest and greatest, you'll want OpenStep 4.1 However OpenStep will run slower on the turbo slab. Not that you can't run it, but it will be slower. Right now NeXTstep is all you probably need as a non-developer. If you are going to develop apps, you'll want OpenStep, but I'd wait for 4.2 (due this summer???) as 4.0 and 4.1 have their woes, and 4.2 will probably be a lot better (especially if it's anything like 3.2 as compared to 3.1 and 3.0). So if you have 3.3, use 3.3 for now. If you want to start developing, get 4.1 but except that compiles, etc will take some time. Get a bunch of RAM and keep on hummin' TjL -- TjL *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dbikle.a2i!dbikle From: Dan Bikle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 13 Mar 1997 08:56:30 GMT Organization: Bikle Software Lines: 51 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: waltz.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dbikle Keywords: NeXT horizontal streaks Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27818 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16741 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25834 comp.sys.next.misc:25334 Hi NeXT fans, This post is coming from a NeXT I *JUST* dredged out of my closet. It's running "3.0". The chip is a 68040 and it resides on a card in one of those boat-anchor-magnesium-cubes (not the pizza box style). I think it was manufactured about 1991 or 2. After I dusted him off and connected the periphs.... I pressed that magic button on the keyboard. It ... booted HURRAY!!!! Next, I tried out the 400dpi printer. I encountered a small problem. Portrait oriented printouts have horizontal streaks running across the page. I think maybe a new toner cartridge might solve this. If memory serves me right, the toner cartridge for the 400dpi printer is identical as the toner cartridge for some kind of Apple laser printer. So, that is my long winded way of asking: Where do I get a toner cartridge for a: "NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer" ?? Or... Whats the model # of that identical Apple laser printer cartridge? Thanks so much... -Dan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel B. Bikle/Independent Oracle Consultant dbikle@alumni.caltech.edu | 415/941-6276 | P.O. BOX 1401 LOS ALTOS CA 94023 http://www.rahul.net/dbikle --------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703112257.RAA09954@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: df5d953d35852ffb99a5a8a56dcb412c - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 17:56:58 -0500 Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ FLyer 230 ? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: df5d953d35852ffb99a5a8a56dcb412c - Lines: 16 Responding To: Chang Song Original Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 09:53:06 -0500 Message-ID: df5d953d35852ffb99a5a8a56dcb412c - > I was just wondering if anyone is successfully using SyQuest's EZ > flyer 230 SCSI drive with NeXTstep? Yes, there are... and people using EZ135's as well (namely, me ;-) TjL -- TjL *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience. #################################################################### Date: 13 Mar 1997 11:05:28 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!van-bc!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-by: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: advertise@bytewarecafe.com Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5g7d7q$8qt@newman.pcisys.net> Control: cancel <5g7d7q$8qt@newman.pcisys.net> X-No-Archive: Yes Lines: 2 BYTEWARE spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: NOTIFICATION OF BYTEWARE CAFE'S SPECIALS #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-peer.gsl.net!cyclic.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.kolumbus.fi!news.funet.fi!news.cs.hut.fi!news.clinet.fi!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703112315.SAA10080@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: dffcb31ac8fd9e564c800cc01986d4ef - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:15:31 -0500 Subject: Re: (HELP) installing & using modem Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: dffcb31ac8fd9e564c800cc01986d4ef - Lines: 23 Responding To: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Original Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:16:01 GMT Message-ID: dffcb31ac8fd9e564c800cc01986d4ef - > My guess is the driver being used for the modem. In my choices list > of modems in version 3.3 of the NeXTStep OS, I have only two > choices. One is "HSD modem" and the other is "Interfax Modem". I > tried each but both kept hanging up. That certainly is the problem, as the drivers for those two modems are not compatible with your modem. Your best bet is to try NXFax (I'm not sure if the Prac. Peripherals works with it, but it might). TjL -- TjL *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!news From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: test, pls ignore Date: 13 Mar 1997 14:47:54 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5g942q$g31@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pas-ca7-10.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Mar 13 6:47:54 AM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20003-05 test only -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu vbragin@ix.netcom.com vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu ********************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ethernet card problems Date: 13 Mar 1997 15:57:30 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 45 Message-ID: <5g985a$4h0@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pas-ca7-10.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Mar 13 7:57:30 AM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20003-05 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25845 comp.sys.next.hardware:27822 comp.sys.next.misc:25339 Briefly, here is the problem that I am having. (1) An Ethernet card on one of our systems failed. The systems have been functioning for months. I am certain it was the card because when I used the same card on another machine, that machine gave the same message --- "Still searching for parent network ...etc. press 'c' to continue without network user accounts....." (2) Replaced the card with a new one - it worked for about a week. Now, the Ethernet card is not functioning again. Intel Pentium 100 MHz DECchip21040 Based Adapter Ethernet card (v3.36) My question: could there possibly be something on the motherboard that is causing the Ethernet card to fail repeatedly? Or, is that a dumb question? What should I check? Thanks for any help. Also, I tried to post this before but I notice that it never appeared on any of the newsgroups. So, please excuse the bandwidth if it should reappear at some later time. Vicki Bragin -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu vbragin@ix.netcom.com vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu ********************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 13 Mar 1997 16:01:56 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >In article <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu>, wrote: >.... What this means is that application icons may not look as >good as they once did, since they're no longer using the human-optimised 2bpp >images. Furthermore your background may also be dithered, which is mightally >annoying. It's been a couple of years since I've run dual-headed, so I can't >remember whether the dock rectangles will be shaded or not. > This is all under 3.2. Perhaps subsequent releases have some super-cool fix >for this annoyance. Yeah - I noticed that too. I haven't tried it under 3.3 yet, though I probably could easily enough. I'll let you know. Also, there's a bug which significantly slows down your display if you run a dual-headed ND system and make the mono screen the login screen. Instead, always make the color ND screen the login screen. This was at true for NS 2.1, but I don't know if its a hardware vs software bug and fixed in later releases. > Quick correction. The i860 on the ND "only" does rectangular blits and >bitmap scaling--the DPS interpretation is still done by the '040. I believe the ND is also given the task of doing quick rendering too. > Also, Color slabs use 16bpp, not 8. Opps :-) - Gareth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!uky.edu!usenet From: howe@ukcc.uky.edu (Miles Howe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PAS16 SCSI USE IN NS3.3? Date: 13 Mar 1997 15:59:37 GMT Organization: Network Computing Systems Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5g9899$jfl@service3.uky.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.163.28.218 X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Hi all, does anyone know if NeXTStep 3.3 Mach can use the scsi trantor controller on the ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound card? Thanks! Regards, Miles... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!Hanover.Germany.EU.net!dvs-hannover.de!jork From: jork@dvs-hannover.de (Ralf Jork) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Date: 13 Mar 1997 17:19:22 GMT Organization: DVS GmbH Hannover Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5g9cuq$245@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> References: <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: neptun.dvs-hannover.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25850 comp.sys.next.hardware:27825 comp.sys.next.misc:25341 comp.periphs.scsi:73196 linux.scsi:6 Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: [...] : It has been getting set to all 0, but the drive doesn't want to change : the sector count. In fact, after formatting, when you do a MODE SENSE, : the drive returns the number of blocks as 0. : : How do I know what the appropriate number of blocks *should* be? I can : guess, but I don't know it precisely. See the Seagate "Barracuda 4LP ... Product Manual, Volume 1" for more info. BTW: the ST34371N I tested has 8,496,960 (0x81A740) blocks (512 byte sectors). Oh, and Mode Sense indeed reports "0" for this drive. According to the Seagate manual this translates to "all logical blocks". -- Ralf. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!oronet!i521.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: (help) Audio Sound from CD ROM Date: 13 Mar 1997 18:43:15 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i521.oro.net I have a NeXT Turbo Cube running the original NeXT brand CD ROM. Works great, though slow. I am trying to play the audio CD thru my SoundBox but no sound comes out. If I plug in headphones to the front of the CD ROM unit, I do get sound. How can I play music out of the SoundBox. Tom #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!rparkhil From: rparkhil@bnr.ca (Rob Parkhill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation RAM question Date: 13 Mar 1997 17:49:19 GMT Organization: NORTEL - Northern Telecom Canada Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5g9emv$o59@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> References: <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Reply-To: rparkhil@nortel.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: bcnrh6a.bnr.ca In article <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>, Rob Parkhill wrote: >Howdy Folks: [munc] >However, of the four 4MB SIMMS I used, 3 are 80ns, and one is 70ns. > >Could this cause any problems? It seems to work OK (system recognizes >the memory, tells me I have 20MB of RAM), but the load on my system >seems to have gone up a small amount. 'uptime' reports loads of >between .3 and .5 all the time, even when the only application running >is the Workspace Manager. [munch] Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. The general concensus is that the mixed speed RAM should not cause any problems, and that it all must be a figment of my imagination... later... Rob -- Rob Parkhill, Software Guy, Nortel | "How's this for a future vision: Scott rparkhil@nortel.ca | McNealy has Bill Gates in a headlock, members.tripod.com/~parkhill | while Larry Ellison kicks Bill in the +1 613 763 6264 (Ottawa, Ontario) | groin and swipes his wallet." - Alex Lash #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: Best bang for buck scanner, looking for opinions Date: 13 Mar 1997 19:28:43 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5g9khb$n7p@news4.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27828 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:67339 Hi, I want to get a flat bed scanner. All I really want it to do is scan in color at least at 400X400 optically (300X600 isn't good enough). 24bit color is fine, if more then great. I'm looking to get the cheapest scanner that meets or slightly exceeds the above specs. I want to get a sheetfeeder as well. So perhaps there are some good units with integrated sheetfeeders that cost less than buying the flatbed, and then adding a sheet feeder? Anyway, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to scanners (among many other things :), so any help and/or opinions will be greatly appreciated! I'd consider any recommendation from any (and only) the following companies: AGFA, EPSON, HP, NIKON, OCE, RICOH, UMAX, XRS Raven; (because those are currently the only companies supported under OPENSTEP). Thanks much :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 21:18:49 -0500 Subject: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Lines: 9 I know the pros and cons of an ergo keyboard, what I am looking for is specific information on what types of soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards people have used and would recommend OR warn me against getting. Thanks TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.map.com!usenet From: Amy West Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: space for NS 3.0 & recommended SCSI drives Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:11:28 +0500 Organization: Merriam-Webster Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33278C80.B63@m-w.com> Reply-To: awest@m-w.com NNTP-Posting-Host: mw043.m-w.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) We're upgrading a NeXTStation from NS 2.2 to 3.0. It only has a 100M hard drive, with 50M usually occupied. How much more space is 3.0 going to eat, and can anyone recommended an external SCSI drive? ---Amy West #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!news.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!hp.fciencias.unam.mx!not-for-mail From: Francisco Raul Romo Alfaro Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [HELP] Installing a cd-rom drive Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:48:36 -0700 (MST) Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 23 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: aniachi.her.itesm.mx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, my problem is: I just got the NeXTStep 3 upgrade (yes, a little late), and a cd-rom drive (that toshiba recomended in the FAQ), but I just can't install it!. This is what I am doing and my hardware is a Cube turbo 68040 with 16 ram, bios v59, and the original 400 meg hdd and floppy, runnig NeXTstep 2.x. The machine has not been "touched" since it was brought (no upgrades, no nothing) After connecting the drive and setting it up at device no. 2, I turned on the cube and press and "~". Then I write the following line (with the cd in the drive): bsd (2,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd2 . The machine's response is NO SCSI drive. I have not yet run the software on the 3.5" disk which comes on the package any clue? thanks -Francisco Romo #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.serv.net!news.onramp.net!thebook.on-demand.com!user From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940AU <-- Note the "A" :) Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:50:18 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: thebook.on-demand.com url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ I found the Adaptec 2940U drivers at the NeXTansers site but found, much to my dismay, that it doesn't support the AU. Does anyone know of a workaround for this? TIA, Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/ #################################################################### From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:16:07 GMT Organization: Netvigator Lines: 60 Message-ID: <5g9v0s$ncd@imsp009a.netvigator.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialh06153.netvigator.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news2.hkt.net!news.hkt.net!imsp009a.netvigator.com!locker Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. 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If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703130545.AAA08284@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 00:45:10 -0500 Subject: So I've got a UPS now.... Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Lines: 21 Turns out that I've got to put the beast on my desk rather than the floor (too far from the floor to the top of the desk). So now there's this space on top of it, and I'm wondering: can I put stuff on top of it? There's no vents or anything like that, I'm just wondering if putting my CDs or my EZ135 cartridges on top of this thing will cause any harm to them (stray magenetic fields, negative karma, etc). Hey, it might sound stupid to you, but I've got a lot of important stuff on those disks/carts.... Thanks TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!81.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So I've got a UPS now.... Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:52:17 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <199703130545.AAA08284@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.60.81 > > There's no vents or anything like that, I'm just wondering if > putting my CDs or my EZ135 cartridges on top of this thing will > cause any harm to them (stray magenetic fields, negative karma, > etc). > I would say there is no problem putting CD's on it since the media wouldn't be affected by anything that the UPS would put out, but I would be careful of the EZ's because a UPS is basically a big battery which probably means that it stores electricity as DC and converts it to AC. (I'm not sure about this since I've never taken one apart, but maybe someone else can say for sure.) Conversion means a transformer which means coils which means magnetic fields. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB & (Help) What OS for Turbo Cube Date: 13 Mar 1997 18:56:14 GMT Organization: GENIFI Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5g9ike$q22$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> References: <5g4lq3$f57@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Do you know if it is better to change for black turbo hardware from 3.3 to 4.1 or 4.2 (Is it rhapsody ??? without the mac compatibility ????) ? Do you think that Black hardware will be supported by Rhapsody ??????? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!not-for-mail From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: More ATI mach64 problems Date: 14 Mar 1997 09:53:31 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5gb76r$8j4$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: celegans.sns.cs.ubc.ca In article <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> writes: > I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the > all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI > mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in > any mode but 640x480 grayscale. I'm having similar problems with an ATI "WinBoost" PCI card which uses the 264VT2 chipset. I suspect the problems are due to an unsupported Mach64 chipset or BIOS. Mach64 comes in a bunch of flavours (from the XFree86 notes): Mach64 series: 88800GX-C, 88800GX-D, 88800GX-E, 88800GX-F, 88800CX, 264CT, 264ET, 264VT, 264VT2, 264GT NeXT's Mach64 driver (v3.37, 4.01) overview says that only the 88800 GX/CX are officially supported. The 264* chipsets have integrated RAMDACs on them, but they should be supported since the driver now uses the ATI BIOS to set the video mode and the overview claims that this should work with any RAMDAC. The error I get is: ATI BIOS not found. (At that point, the default VGA driver is loaded instead). My ATI BIOS rev is 113-34004-104. Is this a problem with an incompatible BIOS? Or is it simply an incorrect I/O address setting in the driver configuration? If it is an incompatible BIOS, can anyone post some ATI BIOS revisions they know that work? *Sigh* It's getting damn hard to build a NEXTSTEP/OpenStep system these days... -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!128.130.2.8!news.tuwien.ac.at!news From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: how to increase refreshing rate Date: 14 Mar 1997 10:52:44 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gbals$mka@news.tuwien.ac.at> Reply-To: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at NNTP-Posting-Host: ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at Lines: 7 Hi all, We'd like to know how to increase the refreshing rate for graphic card. We are using the MatroxMilennium under OpenStep at 1280x1024x75. The next mode in the driver is 90Hz, which is out of the range of our monitor. How could we increase it to 85Hz? Thanks a lot, Khanh Nguyen, #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: space for NS 3.0 & recommended SCSI drives Date: 14 Mar 1997 12:56:16 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5gbhtg$o21@news.next.com> References: <33278C80.B63@m-w.com> Reply-To: joe_keenan@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: barley.next.com In article <33278C80.B63@m-w.com> Amy West writes: > We're upgrading a NeXTStation from NS 2.2 to 3.0. > It only has a 100M hard drive, with 50M usually occupied. > How much more space is 3.0 going to eat, and can anyone > recommended an external SCSI drive? Don't bother with the external. Backup whatever you really need from that 100Meg drive, and just replace it. Just about any small SCSI drive will work in a 'station. I've got a SEAGATE ST51080N 1Gig in mine. Less than $300. joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!nott!cunews!romulus!paul From: paul@computerActive.on.ca (Paul Nadon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hard drive/CD-ROM weirdness... Date: 14 Mar 1997 13:56:18 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5gble2$faf@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ribos.computeractive.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Two new workstations (clones): P133,internal 2Gb SCSI, 64Mb RAM internal 12X CD-ROM SCSI, AHA2940 board. Hard drive and CD-ROM were installed, both terminated. Now fixed. Something is accessing the hard drive continuously. CONSOLE reports: "*** : open failed No such device" A second workstation is doing the same thing, but only when there is no CD in the CD-ROM. I assume this is a configuration thing and that the first hard drive is toast. I've checked Config.app and the BIOS; there does not appear to be any conflicts... Any comments or words of wisdom? --- Paul #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!news From: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More ATI mach64 problems Date: 14 Mar 1997 14:26:22 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5gbn6e$5ck@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> <5gb76r$8j4$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: bilney.trinhall.cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) wrote: >In article <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> writes: >> I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the >> all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI >> mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in >> any mode but 640x480 grayscale. > >I'm having similar problems with an ATI "WinBoost" PCI card which uses the >264VT2 chipset... I also use ATI mach cards. It is necessary to enable the various modes on the card in advance. You can do this by booting up DOS and using a utility provided by ATI (on the floppy disc, if you have it). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!arclight.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail Date: 14 Mar 1997 09:41:40 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: Control: cancel <5g9vj5$n9g@imsp009a.netvigator.com> X-No-Archive: Yes From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: (DogZ Software Center) Subject: cmsg cancel <5g9vj5$n9g@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-By: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Lines: 3 EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970314.01 for further details #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail Date: 14 Mar 1997 09:41:40 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: Control: cancel <5g9v0s$ncd@imsp009a.netvigator.com> X-No-Archive: Yes From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: (DogZ Software Center) Subject: cmsg cancel <5g9v0s$ncd@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-By: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Lines: 3 EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970314.01 for further details #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Memory limitation Date: 14 Mar 1997 17:01:59 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 62 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5gc0a7$c5p$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: shess@one.net In Scott Hess wrote: > In article , > fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu writes: > gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) said: > > You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT > > Station has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can > > I put 4 16 meg 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I > > haven't heard if the NeXT can use them. > > AFAIK, 4 Meg SIMMs are as big as you can go. What *I* want to know > is, would it be possible to use SIMM-doublers in each slot, so one > could effectively go to 64 Meg? > > I don't think you can do SIMM-"doublers" for 30-ping, you have to gang > four of them. Besides which, a doubler just makes a gang of SIMMs > look like a bigger SIMM, so if you ganged four 30-pin 4M SIMMs, you'd > end up with one 30-pin 16M SIMM-alike ... so why not just go to 30-pin > 16M SIMMs? > > Well, beyond "because it won't work" :-). [Actually, though, won't > it? I don't know enough to know if the limitation is that the board > won't handle 16M SIMMs, or that the BIOS won't handle >64M. Could you > leave 4 slots empty and put 4x16M to get to 64M, for instance? I > doubt it, considering when the board was designed. And why am I > asking, since I'm running a Turbo board? Sigh.] > > Beyond all that, there's _no_ way you're going to be able to find > enough clearance to fit all this. You'd need four SIMM savers, > short-left, tall-left, tall-right, short-right. The short ones would > probably fit in the slots away from the power supply, but I doubt the > tall ones would. > > Later, > If your talking about machines that take 30pin SIMMS the answer is NO. 32MB is your limit (8 4M Simms). If you get into the ROM monitor and type m you'll get a report of the addresses of bank 0 and 1 (I'm remembering this off the top of my head). And I'm sure the available addressing space is 32MB (what is that 0x400000- 0x5FFFFFF?!). 25Mhz cubes have 4 banks that span address range 0x400000-0x7FFFFFF. 33Mhz May go to 0xAFFFFF) Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) Note: My reply to header is invalid because parsing spammers are abusing any use of dead@eatthis.spammers.channelu.com type labels in public posts. First it was the easy Reply-To: fields we all know & love. Now it's text itself. I'd love to see a parser that can discern the intended meaning of the word at and the name rencsok (etc) and equate it to channelu dot com to reconstruct my address.. :} But then a parser still has a lot of header fields to play with :( #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:57:06 GMT References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu>, wrote: > >> Quick correction. The i860 on the ND "only" does rectangular blits and >>bitmap scaling--the DPS interpretation is still done by the '040. > >I believe the ND is also given the task of doing quick rendering too. > Yes, it does at least part of it, and there's some sort of bug in the ND's qrman code, but I can't recall what it is. Sure wish the i860 could be used for prman. :-) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!isc-newsserver.isc.rit.edu!usenet From: Rolando Raqueno Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Keeping a Bernoulli 150 from Spinning down Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:51:51 -0500 Organization: Digital Imaging and Remote Sensing Laboratory/Chester F. Carlson Center for Imaging Science/Rochester Institute of Technology Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33299E47.460F@cis.rit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: green.cis.rit.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Hello, Does anybody know how to keep a Bernolli 150 removable drive from automatically spinning down? It is attatched to a 040 NeXtCube. Thanks much Rolando P.S. Please reply via e-mail #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nic.win.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!loki.tor.hookup.net!digifix!news From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Postscript Printer Driver Instalation for Windows NT 4.0 Date: 14 Mar 1997 19:57:24 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Lines: 109 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <5gcaj4$fnt@news.digifix.com> Reply-To: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.announce:4093 comp.sys.next.hardware:27846 comp.sys.next.misc:25350 NeXT Postscript Printer Driver Instalation for Windows NT 4.0 * Prolog When I mentioned that I'v done this, some good people at next-prog@omnigroup.com suggested that I upload this. So here it is * Introduction - This is for Windows NT 4.0 to print on a NeXT Black printer * System Requirements - Load the lpr package on your network configuration on your NT machine * Downloads ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.readme or by World Wide Web http://www.gomeco.com/next/ Here is the Readme file: ---------------------------------------------------------- >From Y. Michopoulos, yiannis@kybos.gomeco.com, March 13, 1997 This is a compressed directory, with everything you need to install a postscript printer driver (PPD) for the NeXT printer that is connected to your black hardware, and you want to printon it from your Windows NT 4.0 machine. This is offered to all those that persist on the black hardware dream! This is a hack! No guaranties are implied about anything. You do everything at your OWN risk. However, if you have any problems drop me a line at yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.milor yiannis@kybos.gomeco.com I'll try to answer. It has been asumed that: 1. your NT machine is already connected through the net to yourBlack NeXT machine. This black machine is your print server because yourblack NeXT printer is connected to it. 2. you know the IP address of your server and the name of the "local" name of the printer as it appears in the PrintManager panel (usually it is called Local_Printer). 3. the lpr package is loaded in your network configuration on your NT machine If you know how to add lpr printers then use the directory NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d as the source of yourntprint.inf file when asked. If you do not understand the previous statement then here's what you have to do. Please follow the steps: 1. unzip the file in a directory of your choice in your Windows NT 4.0 filesystem 2. Launch your(Double click ) "Printers" icon from your "My Computer" icon 3. Double click on the "Add Printer" icon 4. The "Add Printer Wizard" panel will show up; Select "My Computer" and then "Next>" 5. Push the "Add Port" button if you have not already configured a network printer before 6. In the "Printer Ports" panel that shows up, select "LPR Port" and then hit the "New Port" button 7. In the "Add LPR compatible printer" panel fill in the IP address of your Black print server in the first field and the name of the black printer as known to that machine (usually Local_Printer) 8. Then hit the OK button 9. In the "Add Printer Wizard" panel the port will show up in the list of ports.Select it and Hit "Next>" again. 10. Hit the "Have Disk" button and then on the "Install From Disk" panel hit browseand go (cd) to the NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d dir and select the ntprint.inf file and hit OK 11. Now in the "Add Printer Wizard" panel the option NeXT will appear (among others) in the list of Manufacturers. Select it and then select the only available option in the list of Printers: "NeXT 400 dpi black printer". Hit "Next >" 12. Finish the instalation by selecting whichever subsequent options you desire. ________________________________________________________ Cheers to all, #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!en.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.149.24.18!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: cmckee@flash.net (Casey McKee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Syquest SyJet 1.5Gb - Problems Date: 14 Mar 1997 19:57:34 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5gcaje$oog$1@excalibur.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: aush3-210.flash.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-10012-01 I've just gotten a Syquest SyJet 1.5Gb removable cartridge drive, and my system (NS Intel 3.3patch1) is locking up when there is a cartridge in the drive and I logout, or when I eject the cartridge while I am still logged in. The Workspace is frozen, plus the system will not respond to trying to bring up the ROM monitor to shutdown - I must do a hard reset (OUCH!). This is the first time I've owned a Syquest drive, so I am ignorant of any gotchas I should be attending to. Does anyone have any idea what's going on, and how to fix it? Thanks! Casey McKee caseymck@flash.net NeXTMail encouraged #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.232.240.7!kayrad.ziplink.net!not-for-mail From: Allan MacKinnon Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PAS16 SCSI USE IN NS3.3? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:57:27 -0500 Organization: [under construction] Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3329BBB7.34E8@blueprint.com> References: <5g9899$jfl@service3.uky.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lowell-ip175.ziplink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) To: Miles Howe Miles Howe wrote: > > Hi all, does anyone know if NeXTStep 3.3 Mach can use the scsi trantor > controller on the ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound card? Thanks! > > Regards, Miles... Nope. It can't. -- Allan MacKinnon allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA - 617/424-0615 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: (help) Audio Sound from CD ROM Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:28:24 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 53 Message-ID: <5gcfto$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port9.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: tj@oro.net In Thomas Ferreira wrote: > I have a NeXT Turbo Cube running the original NeXT brand CD ROM. Works > great, though slow. > yeah, but it's great to look at while you're waiting! > I am trying to play the audio CD thru my SoundBox but no sound comes out. > If I plug in headphones to the front of the CD ROM unit, I do get sound. > > How can I play music out of the SoundBox. > > Tom > doesn't work that way. see the FAQ, or buy a, what is it? a toshiba or something and then get some other app...oh heck see the FAQ . ;-0 oh heck, here it is already x-\ 4.15 How to hear sound from CDPlayer.app thought NEXTSTEP system? digital audio CDPlayer To hear sound, the following info is important. [Carl Edman ] Hearing the sound directly on the NeXT can be done with the play3401 program from the archives if you have a Toshiba 3401 series drive. Theoretically this can also be done with NEC [78]4-1s and Apple CD 300s, though I know of no NeXT program which supports them. Most other drives (including the NeXT CD-ROM) just don't have the hardware to do it. There is another player available: CD_evil, which is based on play3401 but offers a GUI. FAQ-Authors note: On Intel system it's very easy: just connect the CD-Audio out (internal) to your CD-in of the soundcard (internal). Anyway there are problems with different drives. E.g. we know, that the Toshiba, Sony and Nec drives currently use the same instruction set to access audio data. So be aware that there are drives which simply can't be accessed through CDPlayer. -rick #################################################################### From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! 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If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge Message-ID: <1997Mar13.194242.685@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: dbikle@rahul.net Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:42:42 GMT Lines: 26 In <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Dan Bikle wrote: > I encountered a small problem. > > Portrait oriented printouts have horizontal streaks running > across the page. > > I think maybe a new toner cartridge might solve this. First try cleaning it. If this doesnt help, get a new toner cartridge. > > If memory serves me right, the toner cartridge for the 400dpi printer > is identical as the toner cartridge for some kind of Apple > laser printer. > > So, that is my long winded way of asking: > > Where do I get a toner cartridge for a: > > "NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer" ?? Its a HP Laserjet II cartridge. Get the original from HP. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So I've got a UPS now.... Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:39:11 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5gcghv$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <199703130545.AAA08284@kira.peak.org> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port9.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: luomat@peak.org In <199703130545.AAA08284@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > > can I put stuff on top of it? > > Thanks > > TjL Hi Timothy- anything that's sensetive to heat or magnetism should stay away (that would include the monitor, I would think). If the heat isn't a problem - that is if you have some little shelf thing around the UPS, optical media should be OK. I'm not sure how audio circuits are affected. BTW, my cable is long enough that I have the UPS ~6' away from the server to which it's attached. what cable did they send you? -rick ps. probably best to keep the easter candy away, as well ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!vega.math.ualberta.ca!not-for-mail From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep portable Date: 14 Mar 1997 22:46:57 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5gckh1$e6o@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.math.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] One of my users has a Next in his office. He'd like Next on his laptop. I'd like to know what vendors besides Deepspacetech provide laptops with NS installed. (He doesn't have the savvy to do it; I've 200 machines in 11 flavours.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 14 Mar 1997 15:03:21 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 36 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gclfp$1ho@mpaque.mpaque> References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> Reply-To: mpaque@wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: serpens213.wco.com In article <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> Rich Markle writes: > How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are > there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have > to do to make it work. Open the back of the Cube. Plug in the board. Make sure the fan on the Cube back is still plugged in. Put the back on the Cube. Connect a monitor to the ND board. You'll need a cable with a 13W3 connector on one end, and whatever your monitor needs (13W3 or 3 BNC connectors) on the other. > Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a > standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, > then the monitor later. Not the monochrome display. Most color multisync monitors that support composite sync (sync on green) and can handle 1280x1024 at 68Hz can be adjusted to work with the ND's video. I've had good luck with the old NEC 5FG monitors. > Lastly, does the ND Board Help or hurt speed? > I am thinking in terms of usability (subjective) not benchmarks > (oblective). Thanks in advance for all your help. PostScript drawing is a bit faster, and bitmap imaging is a bit slower, than the equivalent 2 bit display. Of course, you are pushing 24 bits of color per pixel... -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!not-for-mail From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ATI video cards no longer supported ? Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:17:55 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5gcmb3$g8o$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: celegans.sns.cs.ubc.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27855 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25888 I just spoke to a NeXT tech support rep about problems I'm having with ATI's new Mach64 cards using the 264VT or Rage chipsets. That BIOS revision isn't supported by the current ATI driver, and he does not anticipate that any updates will be forthcoming since the driver engineers have been relocated to the Rhapsody group. Since it looks like the new ATI cards are all using those chipsets, this means that ATI is not an option any more? I'd like to hear otherwise... -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!not-for-mail From: hamel@ravel.ubc.ca (Dr. Keith A. Hamel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Laptops running NS Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:42:39 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5gcnpf$sgf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Reply-To: hamel@unixg.ubc.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: ravel.music.ubc.ca Does anyone have suggestions for off-the-shelf laptops that are capable of running NeXTStep/OpenStep? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MIDI clarification? Date: 15 Mar 1997 01:04:33 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5gcsj1$16i8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I have heard that you must make special cables to use a Mac MIDI interface with a NeXTSataion. I have also heard that a standard Mac serial cable will work. My Studio3 is on the way, and I would like to know... Thanks Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!psinntp!fyi.sybase.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 21" Inch Mega Pixel? Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:48:15 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5gch2v$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <33265629.6FB6@earthlink.net> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port9.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca somewher someone wrote: > >Are there any such things as a 21" Color MegaPixel? > when Rhapsody catches on, somehow I think large monitors will be popular purchase, like fast modems were for the www, like enormous hard drives are for office '97 ;-). all that talk about most MACs still having 14" 640 x 480 screens... it might be a good time to buy stock in monitor companies. if it happens and prices drop (ala modems) it could snowball. soon we'll could all have those 16/9 aspect ratio monitors that are 22" diagonally, cheap. -rick (who could just as well have posted form his Newton with it's tiny screen) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!cbgw2.lucent.com!oucsboss!oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu!carlip From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Subject: Black Hardware: No Power? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (carlip) Message-ID: Sender: news@boss.cs.ohiou.edu (News Admin) X-Nntp-Posting-Date: Fri Mar 14 20:48:35 1997 Organization: Ohio University Mathematics Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:48:36 GMT Lines: 23 The trusty black NeXTStation (black and white) in my office stopped functioning today. The power in the building (in fact, in this entire town) is not very reliable, so the machine periodically loses power, but reboots itself. Today it seems to be powerless. I checked the power chords and everything seems OK, but there is no sign of power in the machine. Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be repaired or replaced? Any other suggestions? Thanks, -- Walter -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Walter C3arlip **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu **** (the "3" is silent) _____________________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Richard Creger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: compaq bios Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:30:54 -0800 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 2 Message-ID: <332A502E.1F80@worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.64.181 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-WorldNet (Win16; U) does anyone know how to get into a presario 924 dx2-66 BIOS? its not the standard del during boot-up #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.68.191.16!news.accessone.com!news1.cstone.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Upgrading to a new mother board on MO Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:46:28 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5gd9j4$fee@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, I have a 030/25 and an 040/25 machine and I'm considering purchasing two 040/33 mother boards and replacing the existing boards. Does will the machine get confused if I install the hard drive and memory and then boot, thinking it is still running on the old hardware? On booting the machine for the first time do you install a new OS? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!ont-ca7-12.ix.netcom.com!user From: "Jim Wu" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound Box Cable = Monitor Cable?? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:21:50 -0700 Organization: Netcom Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ont-ca7-12.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Mar 14 11:17:43 PM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) I have recently acquired a NeXT dimension with everything but the cable from the cube to the soundbox. My question is, is that particular cable the same as a mono monitor cable. By the way does some one have a cable lying around that they would like to get rid of. Thanks. Jim Wu jiwu@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!newscaster-1.mcast.net!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!host2.in-motion.net!usenet From: aloha97@in-motion.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: Re: Best bang for buck scanner, looking for opinions Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:10:59 -0500 Organization: In-Motion LLC Lines: 2 Message-ID: <332A3D6E.781C@in-motion.net> References: <5g9khb$n7p@news4.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin51-96.in-motion.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27863 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:67579 Look in the Mar '97 MacUser or MacWorld. I can't remeber which, but they have reviewed the type of scanners you are interested in. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!informatik.uni-bremen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!CNB.CompuNet.DE!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!swidir.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.bme.hu!news.westel900.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!fyi.sybase.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge Date: 14 Mar 1997 22:04:51 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5gci23$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> <1997Mar13.194242.685@gamelan.shnet.org> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port9.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM In <1997Mar13.194242.685@gamelan.shnet.org> Thomas Funke wrote: > In <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Dan Bikle wrote: > > > I encountered a small problem. > > > > Portrait oriented printouts have horizontal streaks running > > across the page. > > > > I think maybe a new toner cartridge might solve this. > > Its a HP Laserjet II cartridge. Get the original from HP. any model HP92295A cartridge will work. this is the EP-S cartridge, spec'd for HPLJ II, IID, III and IIID. they used to be available at any decent office supply store, but a recent informal survey of Manhattan (eg Staples and CompUSA) showed that only the newer models (IV and V series) are stocked. so you could do what I did, call 1-800-735-4000 and order one from Reliable, either the "real thing" for $79.59 or a "remanufactured" cartridge for $37.59. No tax; next day delivery. -rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!gatech!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.missouri.edu!usenet.umr.edu!sanjeev From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: (Driver Kit...) Date: 15 Mar 1997 10:38:46 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5gdu7m$6f1$1@news.cc.umr.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.umr.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hi, I was trying to write a Device Driver for EPIX frame grabber card under NextStep 3.2. My problem is that when ever I try to open the port, and if the video signal is not present at the port (camera is not powered on) the system hangs. Is there any way I could time this out. I mean if the port is not available (not powered) just don't open it!! Any pointer on this will be helpful. Thank you very much for your time ... Sanjeev #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ycc.yale.edu!jimh From: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: zip drive Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:26:16 GMT Organization: Yale University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello- Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work (Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). What else should I be doing? -Jim #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703150700.CAA04994@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 02:00:10 -0500 Subject: How does SyJet compare? Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Lines: 18 I am thinking about getting a SyJet (1.5 gig/cart). The first removable cartridge hard drive to market with a capacity over 1 gigabyte, SyJet supports the most demanding application users with a maximum sustained read/write data transfer rate approaching 7MB/sec., and a SCSI burst rate of 10MB/sec. Seek time is among the fastest available at less than 12msec. My question is: how well does this compare with other HD available? TjL ps -- if anyone has experience with SyJet, please let me know. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cronkite.ocis.temple.edu!thunder.temple.edu!not-for-mail From: jmcgahey@thunder.temple.edu (John Mcgahey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Simultaneous recording on Mac possible? Date: 15 Mar 1997 16:15:09 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5gehud$240@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: thunder.ocis.temple.edu NNTP-Posting-User: 536870664 X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] What software/hardware would I need to turn my Radius 110 megahertz with 40 megs of RAM into a digital studio? Is there a faq on the subject? My goal is to play previous tracks while simultaneously recording a new one. This is something beyond the capabilities of SoundEdit 16. \ I'd really appreciate any help. Thank you. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unihil!baghira.han.de!euler!js From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: (help) Audio Sound from CD ROM Message-ID: Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <5gcfto$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:25:00 GMT Lines: 19 Rick Sanford writes > [Carl Edman ] > > Hearing the sound directly on the NeXT can be done with the play3401 > program from the archives if you have a Toshiba 3401 series drive. > Theoretically this can also be done with NEC [78]4-1s and Apple CD > 300s, though I know of no NeXT program which supports them. Most other > drives (including the NeXT CD-ROM) just don't have the hardware to do > it. The successor named playcd, version 1.4 should work with nec 3x and apple 300 drives. Juergen --- AnsweringMachine +49 511 92455-50 Fon -51 Fax -52 NeXTMail welcome = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.245.3.50!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quix Daydream Date: 15 Mar 1997 13:07:03 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5gevh7$p7d@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Mitchell Allen" wrote: >On Sun, Mar 9, 1997 1:01 PM, Isaac wrote: >> 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is >> normally used for sound on black hardware.) > >Would this be true of a system with a SoundBox which doesn't, of course, >use the DSP port? >> >> I've heard it runs System 7.5.5 with no problems. I wonder if anyone's >> tried 7.6 on it. > >WOW! That's impressive. My five PowerMacs can't run System 7 with no >problems. What's even more impressive, is that the Daydream is more stable than some of the Macs I use in college... It runs software that crashes a "normal" Mac. And my Daydream is currently running 7.5.5 -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: MIDI clarification? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5gcsj1$16i8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:47:07 GMT Lines: 22 In article <5gcsj1$16i8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) writes: > I have heard that you must make special cables to use a Mac MIDI > interface with a NeXTSataion. > Yes, you need a special cable since the pinout is different. > I have also heard that a standard Mac serial cable will work. > Bullsh.. > My Studio3 is on the way, and I would like to know... > The manpage on 'zs' is the first source of info. If this still leaves you clueless (there are people like this ;-) refer to the FAQ and Usenet- archive on Peanuts -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Box Cable = Monitor Cable?? Date: 15 Mar 1997 23:19:56 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5gfaqs$5pj@news.next.com> References: Reply-To: joe_keenan@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: barley.next.com In article "Jim Wu" writes: > I have recently acquired a NeXT dimension with everything but the cable > from the cube to the soundbox. My question is, is that particular cable > the same as a mono monitor cable. Yes it is. The soundbox replaces the Mono monitor. joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.voicenet.com!omni1!dwright1 From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? Date: 16 Mar 1997 00:28:52 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5gfes4$ck0$2@news2.voicenet.com> References: <5fvuvp$jum@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni1.voicenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: : Hi, : What is the fastest modem speed I can use thru : a serial port on a 040/25 machine? : Thanks, : Emmett I've run 57600 on a few diffrenet machines with no problem. -Darren #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge References: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Keywords: NeXT horizontal streaks From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <332b417b.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 16 Mar 97 00:40:27 GMT Lines: 57 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net>, Dan Bikle wrote: > >Hi NeXT fans, [snip] > >So, that is my long winded way of asking: > >Where do I get a toner cartridge for a: > >"NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer" ?? > >Or... > >Whats the model # of that identical Apple laser printer cartridge? > >Thanks so much... > >-Dan >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Daniel B. Bikle/Independent Oracle Consultant >dbikle@alumni.caltech.edu | 415/941-6276 | P.O. BOX 1401 LOS ALTOS CA 94023 >http://www.rahul.net/dbikle >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The toner cartridge for a NeXT is the same one as used in the Apple Laser Writer, namely an EP-S cartridge. Remember to clean the thin nylon filaments that are seen about 1/3 of the way down the paper path when the printer is open. Toner build-up on those can cause streaks. Also replace the cleaning pad that sits on top of the fuser roller (just at the end of the paper path where the paper leaves the printer). The pad has two prongs sticking up in the thin end of the V opening when the lid is open. It just lifts out and is replaced by the new one that comes with the toner cartridge. There are companies that refill toner cartridges and put higher performance drums in them. Over two or three refills, it becomes noticably less expensive than new cartridges. Take all the old bits to them for a refund. There's also a wire inside the toner cartridge that you can clean with one of the two little green brushes that should be clipped inside your laser printer. Before discarding the cartridge, try cleaning the wire. You friendly local dealer can probably show you a diagram of how to do it, if he/she sells toner cartridges. Good luck. david ---- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: (help) Audio Sound from CD ROM References: Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <332b42bd.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 16 Mar 97 00:45:49 GMT Lines: 27 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article , Thomas Ferreira wrote: >I have a NeXT Turbo Cube running the original NeXT brand CD ROM. Works >great, though slow. > >I am trying to play the audio CD thru my SoundBox but no sound comes out. >If I plug in headphones to the front of the CD ROM unit, I do get sound. > >How can I play music out of the SoundBox. > >Tom Try turning up the volume on the CD Player panel. It is usually turned right down, and it is hard to see the thin white line that corresponds to the setting mark. Use the cursor to grab it at the left end of the wheel edge image (representing the volume control) and move it all the way to the right. Hope that fixes the problem. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: zip drive Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:45:37 GMT References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu>, J. Hormuzdiar wrote: >Hello- > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an >Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but >haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work >(Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). > I've had no problems with it on black hardware...are you sure that it's set to an unused SCSI address and that the termination switch is set correctly? -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.245.3.50!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: Re: Best bang for buck scanner, looking for opinions Date: 15 Mar 1997 12:59:02 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5gev26$oc1@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5g9khb$n7p@news4.digex.net> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27877 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:67695 John Kheit wrote: >Hi, > >I want to get a flat bed scanner. All I really want it to do is >scan in color at least at 400X400 optically (300X600 isn't good >enough). 24bit color is fine, if more then great. I'm looking to >get the cheapest scanner that meets or slightly exceeds the above >specs. > >I want to get a sheetfeeder as well. So perhaps there are some >good units with integrated sheetfeeders that cost less than buying >the flatbed, and then adding a sheet feeder? Anyway, I'm pretty >clueless when it comes to scanners (among many other things :), so >any help and/or opinions will be greatly appreciated! > >I'd consider any recommendation from any (and only) the following >companies: AGFA, EPSON, HP, NIKON, OCE, RICOH, UMAX, XRS Raven; >(because those are currently the only companies supported under >OPENSTEP). > >Thanks much :) Whatever you do, if you run black NeXT hardware, stay the hell away from Epson's current offerings (ES-1000 & ES-1200). They broke some basic SCSI thing with black hardware. GSCorp's eXTRASCAN will control these beasts if you patch the software, but the scanners hang the SCSI bus shortly after any scan they perform. The result: Turbos panicking after SCSI read/write failures to the HD, and non-turbos being rendered totally unbootable. This same scanner ran fine under Win95. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!in1.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Laptops running NS Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:21:10 GMT Organization: HTI Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5gfov6$b7q@news2.cais.com> References: <5gcnpf$sgf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.177.56.103 In-Reply-To: <5gcnpf$sgf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Toshiba Tecra 720CDT and if the drivers are available/work, the 740CDT. The 730CDT should also work but is not as good of a value (performance wise) over the 720CDT because of bus speed. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.58.0.36!news.structured.net!in1.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:24:29 GMT Organization: HTI Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5gfp5d$edq@news2.cais.com> References: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.177.56.103 In-Reply-To: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 I like the Microsoft Natural keyboard. The great thing about it is that it is widely available, cheap, comfortable and stylish. You should also check out Kinesis which uses a cup-layout for their keyboard. BTW - It's ironic that Microsoft makes great hardware and lousy software. Robert On 03/12/97, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > >I know the pros and cons of an ergo keyboard, what I am looking for >is specific information on what types of soft-touch and/or ergo >keyboards people have used and would recommend OR warn me against >getting. > >Thanks > >TjL > -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? Date: 15 Mar 1997 21:41:41 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5gftm5$1cr$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5fvuvp$jum@slip.net> <5gfes4$ck0$2@news2.voicenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961006] In comp.sys.next.hardware Darren Wright wrote: : Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: : : What is the fastest modem speed I can use thru : : a serial port on a 040/25 machine? : I've run 57600 on a few diffrenet machines with no problem. Using a modem at 57600 on a 25 MHz Color box is a ticking time bomb. You may be able to live with it for a while, but eventually it'll panic your machine. 57600 on a 33 MHz box is more like it, but it's hard to really push an X2 modem at this DTE rate. My next WAN will be built around an ISDN router. ......................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!digifix!news From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <7353857885137@digifix.com> Date: 16 Mar 1997 05:00:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 347 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <608858488427@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:60836 comp.sys.next.announce:4095 comp.sys.next.hardware:27881 comp.sys.next.software:28632 comp.sys.next.misc:25362 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25903 comp.sys.next.bugs:4223 comp.sys.next.programmer:23568 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. 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Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!news.algonet.se!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!tripnet.se!dinos.tripnet.se!cjs From: Carl-Johan Schenstrom Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Monitor for mono-system ? Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 02:10:47 +0100 Organization: Tripnet AB Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dinos.tripnet.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: puke@dinos.tripnet.se What kind of monitors (frequencies etc) are possible to connect to a NeXT station Mono-system ? Will a standard "PC" 17" Goldstar monitor with 30-85 KHz horizontal freq. and 50-120 Hz vertical freq. do ? Please send comments to cjs@bluebox.pp.se as well as this NG, since I can't read news that often. .--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------. | No animals were injured, raped or killed | cjs@bluebox.pp.se | | during the composition of this message | http://www.bluebox.pp.se | `--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------' #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.caldera.com!news.eli.net!news.burgoyne.com!news From: root Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: compaq bios Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:53:59 -0800 Organization: abacab Lines: 10 Message-ID: <332BC337.3A9D@localhost.com> References: <332A502E.1F80@worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: root@localhost.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lg3.burgoyne.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Richard Creger wrote: > > does anyone know how to get into a presario 924 dx2-66 BIOS? > its not the standard del during boot-up Believe it or not, it's BIOS is a PROM that can only be modified via 1.44 floppy....assuming that you have the BIOS/PROM floppy. 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Send me Email here">E-MAIL US NOW !!!!!!!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703160614.BAA08262@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: f7e7d3c00b2652bf8ffd524e68616c64 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 01:14:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Syquest SyJet 1.5Gb - Problems Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: f7e7d3c00b2652bf8ffd524e68616c64 - Lines: 28 Responding To: cmckee@flash.net (Casey McKee) Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 19:57:34 GMT > This is the first time I've owned a Syquest drive, > so I am ignorant of any gotchas I should be attending to. Does > anyone have any idea what's going on, and how to fix it? Myself and others have used SyQuest drives such as the EZ135 and EZFlyer230 without any problems.... This is the first I have heard of this (ironic since I'm considering getting one for my NS machine). Try this: mount the drive and do 'mount -p' or 'cat /etc/mtab' and see what the listing there is and see if it looks strange. (feel free to send me a copy) what's the SCSI-ID of the drive? TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Sound Box Cable = Monitor Cable?? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5gfaqs$5pj@news.next.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:50:54 GMT Lines: 23 In article <5gfaqs$5pj@news.next.com> jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) writes: > In article "Jim Wu" > writes: > > I have recently acquired a NeXT dimension with everything but the > > cable from the cube to the soundbox. My question is, is that > > particular cable the same as a mono monitor cable. > > Yes it is. The soundbox replaces the Mono monitor. > To make it more specific. The color monitor cable is Y-shaped. One connector to the box, one to the screen, and one to the sound box. The sound box houses some cirquitry that used to sit inside the MegaPixel mono momitor. It is used for the attachment of the keyboard and mouse and for housing the conversion and driver cirquit for sound I/O including speakers and microphone. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Black Hardware: No Power? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:44:37 GMT Lines: 26 In article carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) writes: > The trusty black NeXTStation (black and white) in my office stopped > functioning today. The power in the building (in fact, in this entire > town) is not very reliable, so the machine periodically loses power, but > reboots itself. Today it seems to be powerless. I checked the power > chords and everything seems OK, but there is no sign of power in > the machine. > > Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? > Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be > repaired or replaced? > Any other suggestions? > First, check if the lithium battery on your main board is spent. You can get a new one from any camera store. There are no servicable parts inside the power supply. Only a well trained technician could do any good to it. Replacements are to be ordered through BellAtlantic. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Hardware: No Power? Date: 16 Mar 1997 17:53:16 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 54 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5ghc2c$gha$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu In Walter C3arlip wrote: > The trusty black NeXTStation (black and white) in my office stopped > functioning today. The power in the building (in fact, in this entire > town) is not very reliable, so the machine periodically loses power, but > reboots itself. Today it seems to be powerless. I checked the power > chords and everything seems OK, but there is no sign of power in > the machine. > > Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? > Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be repaired > or replaced? > Any other suggestions? > Probably the powersupply. I can't really belive that people would just let their machine deal with power outages like this. It definately is NOT good for the powersupplies, the HD's, or anything electrical to have the power dropped while in operation. Put your machine on a UPS with and UPS monitoring daemon ( BENATONG sells one I think) that can shutdown your machine properly if the power is off too long) if you want to avoid this in the future. Also one last thing. Try to disconnect the power cord and reconnect it. I've seen machines that wouldn't boot in such situations until the power was recycled on the box. Beyond that diagnosing a problem in a black box usually is accomplished with known working components (i.e. swap out the powersupply with a good one, the Mother board, etc.) until the faulty part can be pinned down.. Now if your handy with a DVM (Digital Volt Meter) you should be able to trace it, but you'll probably have to open your powersupply :| I've never had a Station long enough to have had this problem (& my machines are on UPS ;) Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) Note: My reply to header is invalid because parsing spammers are abusing any use of dead@eatthis.spammers.channelu.com type labels in public posts. First it was the easy Reply-To: fields we all know & love. Now it's text itself. I'd love to see a parser that can discern the intended meaning of the word at and the name rencsok (etc) and equate it to channelu dot com to reconstruct my address.. :} But then a parser still has a lot of header fields to play with :( #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Box Cable = Monitor Cable?? Date: 16 Mar 1997 18:27:10 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5ghe1u$lkl@news.next.com> References: Reply-To: joe_keenan@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: barley.next.com In article Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > To make it more specific. The color monitor cable is Y-shaped. One > connector to the box, one to the screen, and one to the sound box. Actually, this is misleading. The cable for a color station is Y-shaped. The dimension uses two (straight) cables, one from the motherboard to the soundbox (or mono monitor), a different one from the dimension board to the color monitor. I remember having several heated discussions with our packaging teams about this, back in '92 or so. We had customers buying different variations of cubes, dimensions, etc., and getting multiple cables or missing cables. I think we finally convinced them to take the cables out of the starting point kits (which had the mouse, keyboard, docs, etc), and put them in with the CPU (or ND card). That way you always had the right cable. joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The perfect [OPENSTEP] motherboard. Date: 16 Mar 1997 19:07:56 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5ghgec$n77@news3.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Maybe I found it. It's the Asus P65UP5. What's so great about it. Well, it uses a daughter card to house dual PentiumPro processors. Ok, so what's so great about that? Well, the very same motherboard takes another daughter card that housed dual Pentium processors. That might mean, when P7's come out, it will only require a Daughter card swap to upgrade. Why, because the daughter card also contains the chipset. Neat, no? Oh it also has 8 simm sockets instead of the standard 4. The dual processor motherboard goes for only 85-100bux more than their single CPU version (P6NP5). (around $325). Considering how much more upgradable this motherboard is, It seems worth the extra money even if you don't use two processors. So the question is, Is anyone using this motherboard? Does it work with OPENSTEP with one processor? Does it work with OPENSTEP with two processors (and just ignores the second processor)? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!wilbur!gxa114 From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: The perfect [OPENSTEP] motherboard. Date: 16 Mar 1997 19:27:10 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5ghhie$1sva@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5ghgec$n77@news3.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilbur.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: : It's the Asus P65UP5. What's so great about it. Well, it uses a : daughter card to house dual PentiumPro processors. Ok, so what's : so great about that? Well, the very same motherboard takes another : daughter card that housed dual Pentium processors. That might : mean, when P7's come out, it will only require a Daughter card swap : to upgrade. Why, because the daughter card also contains the : chipset. Neat, no? Oh it also has 8 simm sockets instead of the : standard 4. ASUS has always made nice boards. I had an old dual P100 from them. : The dual processor motherboard goes for only 85-100bux more than : their single CPU version (P6NP5). (around $325). Considering how : much more upgradable this motherboard is, It seems worth the extra : money even if you don't use two processors. : So the question is, Is anyone using this motherboard? Does it work : with OPENSTEP with one processor? Does it work with OPENSTEP with : two processors (and just ignores the second processor)? I've never used this board, but If it works with one CPU, it should work with two (just ignoring the second). My friend has a 2xP6 board dual booting NT and NeXT3.3, and the next works fine (and still seems faster than the NT) Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5gfkdf$2b2@news.shscomputer.com> Date: 16 Mar 1997 20:47:50 GMT Control: cancel <5gfkdf$2b2@news.shscomputer.com> Message-ID: Sender: takecards@answerme.com X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970316.13. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970316.13.html for complete report. Original Subject: ACCEPT MAJOR CREDIT CARDS !!!!!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Hardware: No Power? Date: 16 Mar 1997 21:08:17 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 51 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5ghng1$635$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org In Peter Nitezki wrote: > In article carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu > (Walter C3arlip) writes: > > The trusty black NeXTStation (black and white) in my office stopped > > functioning today. The power in the building (in fact, in this entire > > town) is not very reliable, so the machine periodically loses power, but > > reboots itself. Today it seems to be powerless. I checked the power > > chords and everything seems OK, but there is no sign of power in > > the machine. > > > > Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? > > Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be > > repaired or replaced? > > Any other suggestions? > > > First, check if the lithium battery on your main board is spent. You can > get a new one from any camera store. Forgot to mention this.. (first place to look for a problem really, battery, PROM, Powersupply, Motherboard etc.) > There are no servicable parts inside the power supply. Only a well > trained technician could do any good to it. > > Replacements are to be ordered through BellAtlantic. > Also as a note in my last post. I really meant proper disconnection. We drop the power to our TV's/monitors etc. all the time. But you don't just pull the plug on a computer for obvious reasons.. -- Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) Note: My reply to header is invalid because parsing spammers are abusing any use of dead@eatthis.spammers.channelu.com type labels in public posts. First it was the easy Reply-To: fields we all know & love. Now it's text itself. I'd love to see a parser that can discern the intended meaning of the word at and the name rencsok (etc) and equate it to channelu dot com to reconstruct my address.. :} But then a parser still has a lot of header fields to play with :( #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.flinet.com!wpb107.flinet.com!user From: "Robb Aley Allan" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: NeXT laserprinter Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:26:36 -0500 Organization: Helical Design Lines: 5 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: wpb107.flinet.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.0 (22) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:16785 comp.sys.next.hardware:27893 Selling original NeXT laserprinter, very lightly used (first cartridge), in original box. Best offer. You pay shipping. Call Robb Aley Allan at 212.605.0555 or rallan@helical.com (will not get email during week of 3.17-3.24). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.68.191.16!news.accessone.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory Installation questions on 040 machine Date: 16 Mar 1997 17:44:15 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5gi7lf$a2@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, I've pulled the motherboard from a NeXT cub having an 040/25 chip and 16 1 MB SIMMs. The date on the back cover of the machine is 1/07/92. I wish to remove 4 of the SIMMS to make room for 4 MB 30 pin SIMMS so that it will have 12 MB of memory. Questions : 1. How are the 1 MB 30 pin SIMMs removed from the motherboard? Is it a straight pull? Or is a special tool needed? 2. Can 1 MB and 4 MB SIMMs be mixed? Assuming they can, does special care have to be taken to select the slots for the 4 MB SIMMs? Can the 1MB and 4 MB SIMMs be placed next to each other? 3. Are the SIMM slots organized in banks like a PC, i.e. with 4 slots for bank 0, 4 slots for bank 1, etc? Should the 4 MB SIMMS be placed in a particular set of slots? Say the set of 4 toward the corner of the edge of the motherboard? 4. The motherboard has an unused 72 pin SIMM slot. Can a 72 pin SIMM be installed in the slot? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703161811.NAA03525@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:11:44 -0500 Subject: Re: zip drive Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - Lines: 19 Responding To: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) Original Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:26:16 GMT > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't > work (Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). did you checkout the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP" @ http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703161802.NAA03376@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 33e62e083f063757baa0e1bb6a5083a6 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:01:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Nextstep portable Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 33e62e083f063757baa0e1bb6a5083a6 - Lines: 20 Responding To: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 22:46:57 GMT > I'd like to know what vendors besides Deepspacetech > provide laptops with NS installed. (He doesn't have the savvy > to do it; I've 200 machines in 11 flavours.) I believe both Bifrost and W2000 do, or can. http://www.bifrostworks.com http://www.w2000.com/main.html TjL, currently working with Bifrost for his NeXT machine ! -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703161809.NAA03491@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 4e4871b1c6dfad564231e4ced544cb4f - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:09:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Black Hardware: No Power? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 4e4871b1c6dfad564231e4ced544cb4f - Lines: 33 Responding To: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Original Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:48:36 GMT > Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? I don't think there's one in the slab, but I could be wrong. > Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be > repaired or replaced? replaced @ http://www.deepspacetech.com > Any other suggestions? Get a UPS! For > $100 you can get a small one that will maintain a better quality of power, for ~$200 you should be able to get one that will keep the system running even if the power fails completely for a few minutes (5-20, depending on the UPS and the amount of power drawn). There's some very nice software for NS & UPSes (or is that USPi ? ;-) from http://www.benatong.com. TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!news From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need pointers to pinout of black laser printer Date: 17 Mar 1997 01:20:41 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Hello, I have a black next laser printer and I would like to make a custom interface from it to my slab ... I know that the cable is a DB-9 MM one-to-one but I would like to know what pin is what ... I am planing on adding a few LEDs and buttons. thanks nick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: younghoon KIL Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Booting Problem on the NeXTslab Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:53:39 +0900 Organization: KORNET Lines: 28 Message-ID: <332CEA72.79E@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.38.26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, I have a NeXTslab and All at once, I could not booting my slab(IBM 2.1GB). Here is the error massage. Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c NeXT>b sd boot sd(0,0,0) booting SCSI target 0, lun 0 blk0 boot: sd()sdmach Booting from SCSI target 0 lun 0 sdmach: not found load failed blk0 boot: ec Bad device load failed I have another NeXTslab and external CDROM drive. Please give me some advice. Thanks, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, SGI O2 Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Color Monitor Replacement Date: 17 Mar 1997 08:05:07 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5gitvj$13vb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) wiedner@nxcb01.cern.ch (Ulrich Wiedner) wrote: >My black FIMI Monitor for my Color NeXTstation just died and I want to >replace it with another (non-NeXT) monitor. Now I was just reading in a >Sony manual that e.g. the Sony 17SE2T monitor goes into power-saving mode >if it receives no signals on the vertical and horizontal synchronization. >But with the NeXTstation there are no extra synchronisation signals, just >RGB. Does this mean I cannot use one of these modern monitors, because >they will automatically go into power-saving mode? Does anyone have >experience with this or see a solution? I'd also be grateful for any >recommendations of specific model/brand names of 17" monitors that work >well with a color NeXTstation. Please note that maybe a TV technician may be able to fix your Fimi monitor - it's worth trying IMHO. WRT replacing it with a new monitor, any multisync monitor that does sync-on-green and can handle the resolution (which modern monitors will) is going to work. So if the Sony does sync-on-green, fine, and power saving won't be a problem, otherwise, you will not be able to use it anyway. I have successfully attached an Eizo Flexscan BTW. Hope this helps,Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: 17 Mar 1997 08:37:03 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5givrf$13vb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5gc5ut$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) > MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Office 97 is a piece of bloated crap. > Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want > by an reasonable price. Hongkong is the paradise for software pirates. They also seem to have their regular share of spammers. ... > If you want some more details , you can go > http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. Yes. Why don't we all drop by and send them a friendly comment. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mysolution.com!news From: Tommy Hwang Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:06:32 -0500 Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Lines: 8 Message-ID: <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com> References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: solaris1.mysolution.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) J. Hormuzdiar wrote: > > Hello- > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work What kind of SCSI Card did you use? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!GIMLI.genias.de!dali!news From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: S3GenericDisplayDriver: tunable parameters / SPEA Mercury? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: larson Message-ID: Sender: news@onevision.de Reply-To: hans@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:03:10 GMT Lines: 38 In article <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> Timm Wetzel writes: > Hi, > > is there any info/documentation on how to modify the innards of the > S3GenericDisplayDriver settings for specific hardware? > I am thinking of the chip id strings and the like. > > Background: I'd like to use a SPEA Mercury VL (S3 928) with a NS3.3 Intel > system, but the S3Generic driver fails to load with the following messages > (beta, released and 4.01 driver versions): > > Get Controller Info returned error (eax = 0x4f00) > Display0: could not determine memory size > _IOProbeDriver: No such device, device S3GenericDisplayDriver unit 0 > > The system then falls back to VGA. > > If this merely means that the 928 is not detected because of Spea-specific > implementation differences, I'd like to know how to adapt (and interpret :-) > the driver's expert settings. > > Does anyone know whether the Spea Mercury VL works with NS3.3 at all? > As far as I know some of the older SPEAs do not work with the S3 driver cause of Bugs in the SPEA BIOS. It was something like wrong registers used... ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT ADB Kanji keyboard? Date: 17 Mar 1997 19:38:08 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5gk6j0$3866@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I have an odd question - I recently came into possession a NeXT ADB keyboard that in addition to the usual alphanumerics has what I think are Kanji glyphs on most of the keys. Is this indeed Kanji or something else - my knowledge of Eastern caligraphy is nil? I'm asking because I'd like to get rid of it but don't really know what to advertise it as. :-) Thanks, - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.mrtc.org!not-for-mail From: danno@mrtc.org (Dan Bigelow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dove Fax software (old stuff) Date: 17 Mar 1997 19:33:53 GMT Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5gk6b1$68e$1@kahu.mrtc.org> References: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mr2-142.mrtc.org X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0.5@mr2-142.mrtc.org X-Authenticated: danno on POP host 199.4.57.17 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:28658 comp.sys.next.hardware:27905 Hi, every-so-often i need to get a fax on my home system, and I have an old dove-fax with a corrupted (or just wrong) DoveFax.pkg... They are no-whereto be found on the net, and without the working software, i'm outta luck. Anyone have a copy of the old Dove Fax software they can send me (attach? - nextmail welcome). Any help or pointers would be appreciated... be well, danno #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!news4.agis.net!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!atmnet.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5gi7lf$a2@slip.net> Control: cancel <5gi7lf$a2@slip.net> Date: 17 Mar 1997 11:50:28 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5gk7a5$k94@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net <5gi7lf$a2@slip.net> was cancelled from within trn. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!HSNX.wco.com!news.walltech.com!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dbikle.a2i!dbikle From: Dan Bikle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 68040 cube needs disk space; any recommendations? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 17 Mar 1997 06:02:53 GMT Organization: Bikle Software Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gimqd$bqq@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: waltz.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dbikle Keywords: quantum VP32170 quantum prodrive NeXT 68040 cc: dbikle@alumni.caltech.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27906 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16800 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25927 NeXT owners, I'm impressed with the advice I received here on my NeXT 400 dpi printer. Now.... I need to expand the diskspace of my 040 cube. The cube is running NS 3.0. I bought a 2gb quantum VP32170 and tried using it to replace an ancient 40mb quantum "prodrive". My NeXT would not recognize the VP32170. I experimented with various scsi address settings and scsi bus termination methods. Do any of you have a good experience with any 3.5" drives? -Dan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel B. Bikle/Independent Oracle Consultant dbikle@alumni.caltech.edu | 415/941-6276 | P.O. BOX 1401 LOS ALTOS CA 94023 http://www.rahul.net/dbikle --------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!45.detroit-005.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 68040 cube needs disk space; any recommendations? Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:02:29 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5gimqd$bqq@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.52.45 > > I need to expand the diskspace of my 040 cube. > > The cube is running NS 3.0. > > I bought a 2gb quantum VP32170 and tried using > it to replace an ancient 40mb quantum "prodrive". > > My NeXT would not recognize the VP32170. I experimented with > various scsi address settings and scsi bus termination methods. > > Do any of you have a good experience with any 3.5" drives? > I installed a Quantum fireball in my cube a couple of days ago. It's a 1 gig drive and the cube is a Turbo. the drive was already formatted for a Macintosh, so I just hooked it to the SCSI ribbon, plugged it in, made sure it was set to an SCSI ID other than that of the original drive and started the Cube. It booted and mounted and I did a build disk on it and reformatted it for NeXTSTEp. This took quite a long time, but it worked perfectly. It was very easy. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2.nyu.edu!newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu!news.cc.sunysb.edu!not-for-mail From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MAXTOR 3.5 GB IDE drive Date: 9 Mar 1997 22:43:56 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5fvefc$g01$1@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) We are having a devil of a time installing NS 3.3 in a new Pentium with a MAXTOR 3.5 GB IDE drive. The disk was partitioned with 1.5 GB committed to WIN95 (I know, I know...) the remaining partition committed to NS. We got as far as getting NextStep to copy files into the hard drive, it could boot and check the disk, but after that it failed to boot. At first we thought it was a problem with the NCR SCSI adapter, so we substituted the Adaptec from another machine. That did not work. Then we discovered that some jumpers were not set correctly in the HD and fixed that. No luck. We tried a number of IDE and EIDE drivers, a nothing seemed to work. After 4 hours, we gave up. Has anyone succeeded in installing NS on a machine with a MAXTOR 3.5 GB IDE drive? Is there some special trick to make it work? Are there some magic words? ("abbra cadabra" and "bibbitty- bobbidy-boo" flopped big time). We would be grateful for any help. Please respond by email. -Richard Larson Dept. of Linguistics SUNY - Stony Brook #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!xfer.kren.nm.kr!snunews.snu.ac.kr!not-for-mail From: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr (Park Jeongyoung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is two Next partitions on 3.2Gb hdd possible? Date: 18 Mar 1997 07:04:48 GMT Organization: Seoul National University, Republic of Korea Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5gleqg$g5a$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: euler.snu.ac.kr X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27909 comp.sys.next.misc:25380 I have a 3.2Gb (Q/T) hdd and built NS 3.3 in a 2Gb partition. 'Fdisk' command says another NS partition is impossible. How can I use another 1.2Gb partition with NS ,not dos/windows? Park, Jeongyoung #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-22.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!thebook.on-demand.com!user From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: 18 Mar 1997 10:07:28 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: thebook.on-demand.com url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ In article <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com>, Tommy Hwang wrote: > J. Hormuzdiar wrote: > > > > Hello- > > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an > > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but > > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work > > What kind of SCSI Card did you use? I use it with an Adaptec 2940AU with 3.3. Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!198.68.191.16!news.accessone.com!news1.cstone.net!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need tape drive recommendation Date: 8 Mar 1997 09:59:11 -0500 Organization: PHCS Lines: 52 Message-ID: <5frurv$in4@papoose.quick.com> References: <5fo4s3$ljn@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com In article <5fo4s3$ljn@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com>, Art Isbell wrote: > The old MO drive has failed, so I need to get a better backup device. >For compatibility with customers who use OEM DAT tape drives in their HP >servers, I probably want an external SCSI DAT tape drive that will work under >OS 4.x and under NT 4.0. 2 GB capacity is sufficient. Compression seems >like a good thing as long as a standard compression format is supported. I >don't know much about these devices, so I'm open to education :-) All DAT drives with compression use the the same algorithm. If your customers have HP DDS or DDS2 drives with compression, then they should be able to read any DDS1 or DDS2 tape whether compressed or not. Note that DDS2 drives only use the denser DDS2 format for the 120m DDS2 tapes, so you will automatically get compatibility with older DDS1 drives by using 60 or 90 meter tapes. In my experience compatibility among the various suppliers is typically very high - I have never had any problems exchanging tapes among 4 different makes of drive. The biggest difference among various makes of DAT drives seem to be data rate. You will find that the majority of good DATs will give you sustainable throughput between 400-800KB/sec (with compression). Sony has a line of drives with speeds from 750-1500KB/sec (this number is a guess but I think it is close). Higher end HP drives are somewhere in the middle with data rates of 500-1000KB/sec. If 2GB seems like a good size to you now, then you probably should go with an inexpensive DDS2 drive both to extend the useful life of the drive and to provide better resale value if you want to upgrade at a later date. In DDS1 mode you can get fit 1.8GB - 3.6GB on a 90m tape (depending on compressibility). In DDS2 mode you will get about twice that on a 120M tape. Since SCSI drives will probably double in size again within the next 2 years, you may find you want this higher capacity later. Though DDS3 are faster (1-2MB/sec) I find them too expensive for most applications. One could probably get 3 older DDS2 drives for the price of one of these. Some people complain about the high cost of DAT tapes. The going rate seems to be 25-30 for a single DDS-2 tape from most retailers. If you shop around, though, you can get much better deals. I like www.tape.com for media. They have lower than average prices for new DDS1 and DDS2 tapes. They also sell '1 pass' tapes which are tapes used a single time to test a DAT drive during manufacturing. You can pick up these used DDS-2 tapes for under $15. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Engineering Group (617) 895-3343 ) | The best wetware is often in beta. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.gwdg.de!news From: Timm Wetzel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: S3GenericDisplayDriver: tunable parameters / SPEA Mercury? Date: 18 Mar 1997 13:00:59 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5gm3mb$m9l@gwdu19.gwdg.de> References: <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) wrote: > In article <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> Timm Wetzel > writes: > > Hi, > > > > is there any info/documentation on how to modify the innards of the > > S3GenericDisplayDriver settings for specific hardware? > > I am thinking of the chip id strings and the like. > > > > Background: I'd like to use a SPEA Mercury VL (S3 928) with a NS3.3 [...] > > Does anyone know whether the Spea Mercury VL works with NS3.3 at all? > > As far as I know some of the older SPEAs do not work with the S3 driver > cause of Bugs in the SPEA BIOS. It was something like wrong registers > used... Actually, I've found out by now that the old (`obsolete') S3 driver _does_ work, at least in some modes (as opposed to the newer S3GenericDisplayDriver, which fails to load). 1024*768@70Hz RGB:256/8 works (but at 52Hz 8-( ). If I have time, I'll try looking at the S3 driver source code and the XFree86 Spea modifications to get better resolutions working. Timm --- Timm Wetzel Max-Planck-Institut fuer biophysikalische Chemie, Abt. 081 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!roper.uwyo.edu!roper.uwyo.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How does SyJet compare? Message-ID: <1997Mar18.061419.26345@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor (Norbert Pirzkal) Date: 18 Mar 97 06:14:18 MST References: <199703150700.CAA04994@kira.peak.org> Distribution: world Nntp-Posting-Host: 129.72.252.115 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: luomat@peak.org Lines: 18 In <199703150700.CAA04994@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > I am thinking about getting a SyJet (1.5 gig/cart). > > > The first removable cartridge hard drive to market with a > capacity over 1 gigabyte, SyJet supports the most demanding > application users with a maximum sustained read/write data > transfer rate approaching 7MB/sec., and a SCSI burst rate of > 10MB/sec. Seek time is among the fastest available at less > than 12msec. > > My question is: how well does this compare with other HD available? > There is a review of this drive in the March issue of Byte (one page...). They compared it to the Jazz drive and it turned out to be about the same speed... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!uky.edu!usenet From: howe@ukcc.uky.edu (Miles Howe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound on IDE CDROM? Date: 18 Mar 1997 15:51:57 GMT Organization: Network Computing Systems Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5gmdmt$l24@service3.uky.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.163.28.218 Keywords: NS 3.3 use of EIDE CDROM X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Hello, I am using a PAS16 sound card on an IDE based system. My question is this: has anyone been able to play audio cd's with an IDE CDROM drive? I have a four speed Mitsumi drive. I am asking this question because if NS 3.3 cannot do this then I am left with finding an oh, let's say an Adaptec 154x ISA card and SCSI CDROM (least expensive setup) to also play my audio cd's. I would hate to have my music cd's denied by what I hope to be my main OS of Choice! Thank You Very Much. Regards, Miles Howe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.fast.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:04:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Q] Booting Problem on the NeXTslab Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - Lines: 44 Responding To: younghoon KIL Original Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:53:39 +0900 Message-ID: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - I have a different drive but also a slab and I have seen this also. Usually it takes a HARD reboot to fix it (LEFT command+ LEFT alt+* on the keypad). May take a few times. I believe this is due to some slight motherboard problem, but cannot say for sure. TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor > I have a NeXTslab and All at once, I could not booting my slab(IBM > 2.1GB). > Here is the error massage. > > > Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c > NeXT>b sd > boot sd(0,0,0) > booting SCSI target 0, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd()sdmach > Booting from SCSI target 0 lun 0 > sdmach: not found > load failed > > blk0 boot: ec > Bad device > load failed > > > I have another NeXTslab and external CDROM drive. > Please give me some advice. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!freenet.buffalo.edu!bt912 From: "Ted J. Myers" Subject: Big Hard Drives Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: freenet.buffalo.edu Organization: Buffalo Free-Net Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:41:58 GMT Lines: 17 Does anyone know just what the factors are in determining whether or not a computer can handle one of the larger hard drives that are available? For instance, I've been hearing that some computers need special software drivers in order to work with any HD that's over, about, 500 MB. So, in order to use one of the many 1 GB, and higher, drives, you wouldn't be able to simply install one and then start using it. Right? Anyone know whether this is so & whether there might be any hardware modifications that can be performed instead? Thanks, Ted #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!b52-32.das.mcgill.ca!user From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: help! optical drive doesn't mount Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:02:07 -0500 Organization: McGill Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: b52-32.das.mcgill.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25382 comp.sys.next.hardware:27917 The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files (e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it would not mount. Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice on how to mount the OD? Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to the crash. Thanks, Bill Anderson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!oronet!i544.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: **Newbie. (HELP)** Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:43:44 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i544.oro.net Just started using a NeXT Turbo Cube. Need to modify the rc.local file in the /etc folder but will not let me save my modification. It tells me I need to be in the ROOT but I am having a hard time understanding how to be in the ROOT and then how to modify this file. In a nutshell, how do I get into the root so I can modify files like this rc.local. Once I am in this root, how can I modify the file from there. Thanks you. Thomas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703180318.WAA08371@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: aa6378859a55f060074d7f6aa0e10f7e - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 97 22:17:56 -0500 Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: aa6378859a55f060074d7f6aa0e10f7e - Lines: 20 Responding To: Robert La Ferla Original Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:24:29 GMT > You should also check out Kinesis which uses a cup-layout for > their keyboard. I did checkout Kinesis, which costs over $200 for a "basic" keyboard! A little rich for my blood, although it would be nice. Right now I'm going back and forth between an ergo (at work) and a non-ergo at home. I'm faster on the non, because I'm used to it, but the ergo does feel better and forces me to type better. TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703180320.WAA08406@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 673ba5b269ccabb887686b9f84203384 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 97 22:19:53 -0500 Subject: Re: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 673ba5b269ccabb887686b9f84203384 - Lines: 23 Responding To: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Original Date: 15 Mar 1997 21:41:41 -0700 > Using a modem at 57600 on a 25 MHz Color box is a ticking time > bomb. You may be able to live with it for a while, but eventually > it'll panic your machine. FWIW I've been running my non-turbo MONO slab at 57600 for about a month, with no problems and no panics. I've gotten UART overruns in the console 2 or 3 times, brought down the connection, restarted the connection, and all was well. one datapoint, YMMV TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gdm From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: dangerous slabs? Date: 19 Mar 1997 02:19:47 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5gnig3$hd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn> NNTP-Posting-Host: kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) "Scott Atkinson" writes: > What's up? I was planning on going in soon to add memory and maybe install > a larger hard drive. Assuming I'm not a total fool, is there anything > really risky inside? Don't open up your powered-on slab while you're in the bathtub. :-) Seriously, here's my suggestions on how to open your slab: if there's a screw in the back, unscrew it. Pull off the case top and set it aside. Before you do *anything* else, touch the power supply (large metal rectangle on the left side of the slab, if the NeXT logo on the front is facing you). Don't move around much; if you do, touch the power supply again. Leave the slab plugged in, but turned off (duh) - this may not be necessary, but I've always done it this way. Monitors are a different story. gdm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf_see_signature From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: dangerous slabs? Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:36:09 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 In article <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn>, "Scott Atkinson" wrote: > What's up? I was planning on going in soon to add memory and maybe install > a larger hard drive. Assuming I'm not a total fool, is there anything > really risky inside? About as dangerous as a Mac II. Don't worry ;-). Ground yourself on the power supply while messing with SIMMs. Don't put a really hot drive in (7200 rpm), unless you can feed the heat thru to the case (copper mesh pad?). Be gentle with the monitor cable on color (I get opens once in a while, but a little wiggling ...). Don't imagine that anyone else's serial or printer cables will work. Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!sun4nl!rivm.nl!news From: csrfb@sb636.rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is two Next partitions on 3.2Gb hdd possible? Date: 19 Mar 1997 08:17:13 GMT Organization: RIVM Bilthoven, Netherlands Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5go7e9$6s9@mississippi.rivm.nl> References: <5gleqg$g5a$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: sb636.rivm.nl X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27924 comp.sys.next.misc:25384 In <5gleqg$g5a$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> Park Jeongyoung wrote: > I have a 3.2Gb (Q/T) hdd and built NS 3.3 in a 2Gb partition. > 'Fdisk' command says another NS partition is impossible. > How can I use another 1.2Gb partition with NS ,not dos/windows? > > Park, Jeongyoung As long as you want to use the disk for NS only, I think you should initialize the disk with UNIX-style partitions. See NextAnswers doc# 1533 how to do this. This doc states that for large disks you should not just use Builddisk or /usr/etc/disk, but make an entry in /etc/disktab. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Bourgeois, postbak 1 | F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl Centre for Substances and Risk assessment (CSR) | MIME is OK Risk Assessment Division | voice ++31 30 2742962 P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA BILTHOVEN, the Netherlands | fax ++31 30 2744401 RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and the Environment #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mysolution.com!news From: Tommy Hwang Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 03:17:25 -0500 Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Lines: 12 Message-ID: <332FA115.5E14@mysolution.com> References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: solaris1.mysolution.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson wrote: > > In article <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com>, Tommy Hwang > > > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work > > > > What kind of SCSI Card did you use? > > I use it with an Adaptec 2940AU with 3.3. I am using a ZIP drive with Adaptec 2940 and 2940UW card with no problems. Maybe it is the hack... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!ulowell.uml.edu!news.cs.umb.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2.nyu.edu!yale!mango!fischer From: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge Date: 19 Mar 1997 03:43:55 GMT Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-8285 Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gnndr$1fd@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Reply-To: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) NNTP-Posting-Host: mango.theory.cs.yale.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2az (for az) PL2.1] Dan Bikle (dbikle@rahul.net) wrote: : Next, I tried out the 400dpi printer. ... : Where do I get a toner cartridge for a: : "NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer" ?? It uses a standard HP 92295A cartridge, available from any office supply store. ================================================== | Michael Fischer | | Professor of Computer Science | ================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!in2p3.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!jussieu.fr!eurocontrol.fr!polaris.eurocontrol.fr!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:26:48 GMT Message-ID: Subject: cmsg cancel <5gc5ut$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Control: cancel <5gc5ut$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Approved: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr X-Cancelled-By: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Newsposter: cancel-spam version 1.19 X-no-archive: yes Lines: 9 ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Mar 19 16:04:35 1997 Original subject was: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:19:34 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 22 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27927 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25958 In article , Bill Anderson wrote: > >Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I >wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice >on how to mount the OD? > Unfortunately for you, 3.2 handles the optical drive just fine, and I can't think of any way that you could have trashed OD support. Can you mount it manually, doing something like # mount -o ro /dev/od0a /mnt as root? Failing that, perhaps your optical drive took this opportunity to die. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: dangerous slabs? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:28:17 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn> NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Mar-97 dangerous slabs? by "Scott Atkinson"@wtvh.co > While flipping thru' a manual for my brand new used slab, I found a section > on taking cubes apart, along with a dire warning that NextStations should > never, ever be opened by a user, who could get shocked. > > What's up? I was planning on going in soon to add memory and maybe install > a larger hard drive. Assuming I'm not a total fool, is there anything > really risky inside? NeXTs use a high-speed switching power supply which is enclosed within a metal case on the left edge of the machine; that has dangerous voltages inside. The rest of the system runs on 5 and 12 VDC, which is harmless. About the only other dangerous thing is the ventilation fan, which would probably be painful if you stuck your fingers into it while the machine was on. However, various laws mandate that electronic equipment have explicit warnings about dangerous voltages and the "no user-servicable parts" jargon. Also, unfortunately, there are a growing number of idiots who win lawsuits because they weren't explicitly warned against doing something stupid, so such disclaimers are a good idea for avoiding civil lawsuits, too. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!hood.cc.rochester.edu!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!rs007e From: Superfly Subject: Booting problem... In-Reply-To: <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: uhura.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center References: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:12:51 -0500 Lines: 31 I have a NeXT 040 Slab and I am having booting problems. My system hangs when it starts up the ppp services. Is there a key combination that I can use so that I may edit the startup so the ppp service doesn't start? Any suggestions are more than helpful. Thanks! -Ryan (I love NeXTs) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ryan Sowers-Martinez **e-mail: superfly@santafe.edu University of Rochester rs007e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu CPU Box 277395 superfly@aardvark.bcs.rochester.edu Rochester, NY 14627 root@aardvark.bcs.rochester.edu (H)716-274-0518 sowers@bcs.rochester.edu (W)716-275-4067 ** My homepage is located at: http://www.santafe.edu/~superfly -------------------------------------------------------------------- I am reachable by email. My address is: superfly@santafe.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------- ________ __ __ ______ ______ _______ ______ __ __ __ | ______| | | | | | ___ | | ____| | ____ | | ____| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | || | | | | || | | | | \ \ / / | |_____ | | | | | | || | |___ | | || | |___ | | \ \ / / |______ | | | | | | |__|| | ____| | |___|| | ____| | | \ v / | | | | | | | ____| | | | __| | | | | | | ______| | | |__| | | | | |___ | |\ \ | | | |____ | | |_______| |______| |_| |_____| |_| \_\ |_| |______| |_| ********* ******** *** ******* *** *** *** ******** *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!cs.umd.edu!hecate.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!usenet From: "Christopher R. Bowman" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 68040 cube needs disk space; any recommendations? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:05:17 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Lines: 33 Message-ID: <33301CCD.569D@Glue.umd.edu> References: <5gimqd$bqq@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: basic.eng.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) To: Dan Bikle Dan Bikle wrote: > > NeXT owners, > > I'm impressed with the advice I received here on my NeXT 400 dpi printer. > > Now.... > > I need to expand the diskspace of my 040 cube. > > The cube is running NS 3.0. > > I bought a 2gb quantum VP32170 and tried using > it to replace an ancient 40mb quantum "prodrive". > > My NeXT would not recognize the VP32170. I experimented with > various scsi address settings and scsi bus termination methods. > > Do any of you have a good experience with any 3.5" drives? > > -Dan > My quantum 3.5 inch 1gig fireball has worked great in both my cube and now my slab. My Seagate Elite 3 also works very well in my cube 2900 MB for only $350 (5 1/2 inch full height though) --------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@Glue.umd.edu My home page #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:01:41 -0600 From: alanlb@rrinc.com Subject: Upgrading 25 MHz mono slab: worth it? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Mar 19 21:26:30 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 128.173.242.236 (access.rrinc.com) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (WinNT; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: alanlb@rrinc.com Lines: 12 hello, i've a 25MHz mono slab with 20MB of memory running 3.2, and am wondering whether (a) it's worth the expense to max it out to 32MB and (b) OPENSTEP 4.1 will run comfortably (i wouldn't want it to spend all its time swapping)... opinions, anyone? thanks! alan -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!male.EBay.Sun.COM!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: ahh@eng.sun.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Over clocking a 25MHz NeXT Slab Date: 19 Mar 1997 16:34:53 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 13 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> Reply-To: ahh@eng.sun.com NNTP-Posting-Host: shoshin.eng.sun.com Hi, Has anyone tried over clocking their 25MHz NeXT Slab? If so, what is the highest clock speed that they were able to achieve without adding wait states to the memory & NuBus? How about replacing the 040 with a faster part? --- -aslam #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!newsfeed.ed.ac.uk!singer.cent.ed.ac.uk!usenet From: sbrandon@music.gla.ac.uk (Stephen Brandon - SysAdmin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The fuse inside NeXTstation power supplies Date: 19 Mar 1997 12:58:28 GMT Organization: Glasgow University Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gontk$1o1@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: clarinet.music.gla.ac.uk Keywords: NeXT, power supply, repair, hardware I've seen several posts here recently talking about dead power supplies. I had one yesterday morning, and luckily had a spare sitting around (purchased from Jim Moosmann). Another time this happened, I could hear glass tinkling around in the supply and correctly assumed the fuse was blown, but in trying to get at the fuse to simply replace it, I broke the connection between 2 of the boards in the supply. I never went any further with it. This time though, I realised that the fuse is situated adjacent to the connector where the power cable goes in. Instead of trying to pull the whole thing apart, I simply removed this connector (not too hard), and because the wires holding it in were long enough, it simply dangled out. The fuse was then accessible at the point of a screwdriver. I haven't tried to replace the fuse yet, but there's always a chance that the fuse *is* the only thing blown. I live in hope. Stephen Brandon Systems Administrator, Department of Music, e-mail: S.Brandon@music.gla.ac.uk 14 University Gardens, (NeXT mail welcomed) University of Glasgow, Tel: +44 (0)141 330 6065 Glasgow. Fax: +44 (0)141 330 3518 Scotland #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!cyclic.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-tokyo.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ruby.hknet.com!news.resolink.com!news.ia.com.hk!news.hk.gin.net!news From: ktchan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RE: dual head display Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:57:43 +0800 Organization: Global Information Networks (Hong Kong), Public Internet Access. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp00093.hk.gin.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Does any one have any chance test a Matrox dual head display? Only the Elsa have the power, the NeXTanswer mentioned the Matrox is capable to display two monitor. Any one tried to do it? K.T.Chan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!gaea.omnigroup.com!news.serv.net!news.onramp.net!newshost.cyberramp.net!news1.cstone.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Date: 19 Mar 1997 21:15:58 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, I just purchased an external NeXT CDROM and expect I need some advice on using it. Ah, I placed a CD having SoftPC for Next into the CD-ROM caddy and inserted it into the CD-ROM figuring that any NeXT machine ought to be able to read the CD-ROM. When the machine boots I see the following : SONY CD-ROM CPU-541 as sd1 at sco target 4 lun 0 sd1 : UNIT ATTENTION Waiting for drive to come ready . Blk size in lable (2048 != file system blk size (1024) Blk size in lable (2048 != file system blk size (1024) Blk size in lable (2048 != file system blk size (1024) Blk size in lable (2048 != file system blk size (1024) UNABLE TO READ DISK LABEL Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 0dc0 at 0x2012000 0d0 at odc0 slave 0 drive ROM v8, servo ROM v8 0d1 at 0dc0 slave 1 en0 at 0x200600 About the same thing happens when I change the scsi setting to 5 on the CD-ROM. After booting the machine prompts me with the message : "External Disk is unreadable" and later "Do you really want to erase?" Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!news1.agis.net!agis!news4.agis.net!newspeer1.agis.net!agis!atmnet.net!news.4dcomm.com!usenet From: bisk@4dcomm.com (Stephen D. Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wide SCSI Controller w/disk cache Date: 20 Mar 1997 03:00:13 GMT Organization: 4D Global Internet Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5gq97t$oq4@news.4dcomm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bisk3.4dcomm.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27936 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25973 comp.sys.next.software:28724 Does anybody have any especially good or bad experiences with any particular disk caching wide SCSI controller. I'm in the market for one to use with NS3.3. Thanks in advance. da bisk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!cs.umd.edu!hecate.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!usenet From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Over clocking a 25MHz NeXT Slab Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:31:34 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3330CB7F.4E70@wam.umd.edu> References: <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> <5gq2tl$434@mpaque.mpaque> Reply-To: dutky@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: annex13-31.dial.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mike Paquette wrote: > > In article <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> ahh@eng.sun.com writes: > > Has anyone tried over clocking their 25MHz NeXT Slab? If > > so, what is the highest clock speed that they were > > able to achieve without adding wait states to the memory > > & NuBus? > > It won't work. The same clock that drives the CPU also drives a > number of other things (video, DSP, sound...), resulting in > undesirable side effects. There's no NuBus in a slab. Everything > hangs off the memory bus. > > Now, if you happen to be a studly hardware hacker, you might be > able to design a daughter card to stuff in the 040 socket that > would run the 040 at a faster rate, while phase locking with the > CPU board clock, and doing interesting things to timing signals > going between the main board and the CPU. I'd suggest the name > 'Nitro' for the card... > > > How about replacing the 040 with a faster part? > > This only has an effect if you could change the clock rate. > An 040 with a 25 MHz clock runs at 25 MHz. Didn't Moto make 50 and 66 MHz versions of the '040 that were used in some of the late model Macs? (I'm pretty sure that the PB190 was a 66 MHz '040) I thought that those '040s were clock doubled. - Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.best.com!idiom.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: Ryan Watkins Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 19 Mar 1997 23:35:05 -0800 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> <5gfp5d$edq@news2.cais.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.dimensionx.com X-Url: http://www.vamp.org/vamp.html X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.25/XEmacs 19.14 Robert La Ferla writes: > I like the Microsoft Natural keyboard. The great thing about it is > that it is widely available, cheap, comfortable and stylish. You > should also check out Kinesis which uses a cup-layout for their > keyboard. BTW - It's ironic that Microsoft makes great hardware and > lousy software. I would second this suggestion. I used to dislike the MS Natural keyboard, but got used to it and like it. One really nice thing is that I've now got a consistant keyboard across a number of machines that I use. All the PC's I deal with have MS Natural keyboards, regardless of the OS I've got running on them. -- Ryan L. Watkins `silver moonbeams dance in fountains vamp@vamp.org below shining citadels surrounded by silver gates ascending silver stairs eureka on angelic prayer wafts in and scents the air' -satb #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.seicom.net!ultra!hhoff From: hhoff@ultra.media-group.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wide SCSI Controller w/disk cache Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 20 Mar 1997 14:34:45 GMT Organization: media group Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5grhu5$cs7$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <5gq97t$oq4@news.4dcomm.com> Reply-To: hhoff@media-group.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.254.9.250 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27939 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25978 comp.sys.next.software:28727 Stephen D. Biskis (bisk@4dcomm.com) wrote: >Does anybody have any especially good or bad experiences with any particular >disk caching wide SCSI controller. I'm in the market for one to use with >NS3.3. DPT. They rule. Stable and fast as hell. 4 MB cache makes your system run; 16 MB or more (up to 64 possible) make you effectively forget about your hard disk, no matter how slow it is. Holger #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ycc.yale.edu!jimh From: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: 18 Mar 1997 22:06:20 GMT Organization: Yale University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5gn3ks$2ia@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello- Thanks to those who have helped already, but we are still having no luck in getting the zip drive to work. So far we have tried both scsi addresses, terminated and unterminated. We even unplugged the printer and tried to use that address. The OS simply refuses to recognize the zip drive. Any help would be appreciated! Just in case it helps, I will give a complete description of the system : Intel Pentium 90MHz, Plato motherboard, 24MB memory. DPT 2021 Fast SCSI-2 controller. IBM 540MB SCSI-2 hard drive Diamond stealth64 PCI 4MB video card Intel EtherExpress 16C Combo Ethernet card Thanks -Jim Tommy Hwang (me@mysolution.com) wrote: : J. Hormuzdiar wrote: : > : > Hello- : > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an : > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but : > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work : What kind of SCSI Card did you use? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!visi.com!not-for-mail From: goldman@visi.com (Matthew Goldman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: 20 Mar 1997 16:26:51 GMT Organization: Vector Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5grogb$6tc$1@darla.visi.com> References: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - <199703161811.NAA03525@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: thumper.visi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: : Responding To: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) : Original Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:26:16 GMT : : > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an : > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but : > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't : > work (Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). : : did you checkout the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP" @ : : http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html That is a nice faq; however, it fails to mention that the NeXT will read/write PC and MAC formatted disks without any problems! Way cool, 100 MB burst sneakernet! Matt -- O O __ | \| O O /|\ -/- _ __\ O _\O |/ (/ O/ /\- /|\ / \ / ) / \ | /O _ O/_ _ O_ ^_ / \^_ )\ / \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matthew Goldman E-mail: goldman@visi.com Home: (612) 535-5220 Work: (612) 883-6640 My day today? Nothing major, just Xenon base gone, Scorpio gone, Tarrant dead, Tarrant alive and then I found out Blake sold us out. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 Date: 20 Mar 1997 16:09:22 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5grnfi$759@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27942 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25983 HELP! I have a Micron Pentium Pro system with 64 Mb of RAM. The system came with the #9Imagine128 Series 2 (Rev 2) , 4Mb video board. I downloaded & installed 2488_Number9Imagine128S2DisplayDriver.pkg.compressed from NeXTanswers (Version 3.30). The problem I'm having is that it just plain don't work!!!!! When I boot using this driver the monitor doesn't sync and I don't get a thing on the Monitor. I've tried another video board (#9GXE64Pro, which uses the S3 chipset) and it works fine. If I use the #9Imagine128 Series 2 board while booting into Win95 everything works great, confirming that the board works. What troubles me is that in Configure.app in the expert settings there is no entry for Memory Maps, I/O Ports, IRQ Levels. Could this have anything to do wiith the symptoms I'm seeing? Can anyone tell me how they have their expert settings configured using a #9Imagine128 Series 2 board? Does anyone have any suggestions how I can get this board to work. Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: My slab thinks my CD-ROm is a floppy?!?!? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 40 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:17:42 GMT Hi... i've got a black mono '040 slab, and I'm having a bit of a problem. To give you an idea of my SCSI setup, here's a desc: /dev/sd0a / (200 Meg HD) SCSI ID 0 /dev/sd1a /seraphim (1.2 Gig HD) 1 /dev/sd2a /private/swapdisk (100 Meg HD) 2 /dev/rsd3h /ZIP-100 (100 Meg SCSI ZIP drive) 5 /dev/sd4a /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 (NEC MulstiSpin 3X CD-ROM drive) 6 (I've also tried swapping the IDs for the ZIP and CD-ROM). (The first two are internal, the others are external, and properly terminated). Aaaaanyway... I keep having problems with the CD-ROM drive. It times out during reads, and I have to eject/re-mount the disk to deal with it. Also, for SOME reason, the console log reports that the slab thinks the CD-ROM is a FLOPPY! This *can't* be right, can it? Here's what I mean: Mar 20 12:55:22 Workspace: Mounted floppy disk at /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 reselect timeout - target 6 sd4: UNIT ATTENTION sd4 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd4 (6,0): sense key:0x6 additional sense code:0x29 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) Mar 20 13:07:17 Workspace: Unmounted floppy disk at /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 Disk Label: NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 Disk Capacity 192MB, Device Block 2048 bytes Disk is Write Protected Mar 20 13:07:33 Workspace: Mounted floppy disk at /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 What is happening here? Anyone? Thanks much! Mark -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT FIMI monitor specs? Date: 20 Mar 1997 19:18:55 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5gs2iv$10lo@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Does anyone know the spec's on NeXT's 17" Philips FIMI monitors? I know what the NeXT hardware outputs (1120x832, 68Hz, non-interlaced, sync on green) but is that all the monitor is capable of? Is it Multisync or fixed frequency, etc? - Gareth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!fiji.easyway.net!wonpc From: wonjlee@easyway.net (Won J. Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: NeXT N-1000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 08:00:20 GMT Organization: c410 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5gqqpk$u2j@fiji.easyway.net> Reply-To: wonjlee@easyway.net NNTP-Posting-Host: nyc01-sl2.easyway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 It is an 040 25MHz model with 12MB RAM. The optical drive works fine. I'll throw in two od cartridges. The 400dpi printer is almost new and the toner shouldn't need to be replaced for quite a while. 17" gs monitor, keyboard, and mousr are all in excellent conditions. It has NextStep 2.1 installed on it. A friend at work gave this to me recently, so I don't know much about Next machines. I think someone who knows the system could put this machine to a much better use. Could someone either let me know what the fair value for this machine is or make an offer? I'll accept the highest offer in a week. Won Lee #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Date: 20 Mar 1997 20:44:40 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5gs7jo$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port9.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Hi, > I just purchased an external NeXT CDROM and expect I need > some advice on using it. > Ah, I placed a CD having SoftPC for Next into the CD-ROM caddy and > inserted it into the CD-ROM figuring that any NeXT machine ought to > be able to read the CD-ROM. > When the machine boots I see the following : > Does anyone have any suggestions? > Thanks, > Emmett well I wouldn't boot the machine with a CD in the drive; does this same thing happen if you boot "normally" and then mount the CD? -rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie!user From: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next or Intel? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:39:39 GMT Organization: Paul O'Neill Designs Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie I was considering buying an Intel machine to run Openstep, however I have been told of a Next station for sale locally, I am told its a Next 200 colour, is there such a thing? Is it worth buying? Whats it worth? Or should I opt for an Intel box? Opinions (however biased) needed... Thanks, Paul. -- Paul O'Neill Designs Electronic & Software Product Development email : hponeill@indigo.ie web : http://indigo.ie/~hponeill #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What the hell is a Quix Daydream? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:13:55 GMT References: <332F9ABB.7239@earthlink.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 13 In article <332F9ABB.7239@earthlink.net>, Rich Markle wrote: > I know it has something to do with running Mac programs, but what is it >exactly? Thanks in advance. > It's a hardware/software combo that runs the MacOS on black hardware. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newshost.uni-koblenz.de!fourier.uni-koblenz.de!user From: jindra@uni-koblenz.de (Axel Jindra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP!! SPEA Mirage P64 VL 2MB Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:48:26 GMT Organization: IfM@UniKo Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: fourier.uni-koblenz.de Who knows how to adress the above graphics board uner NS 3.3 ? Any help appreciated. Thx cu Axel. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Axel Jindra Institut fuer Mediendidaktik Universitaet in Koblenz Rheinau 1 - D56075 Koblenz (jindra@uni-koblenz.de) Tel. +49-261-9119-656 (a.jindra@ifm.uni-koblenz.de) Fax: +49-261-9119-652 (http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~jindra) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cdc2.cdc.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: Arno Bosse Subject: Re: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 (Joe Blow) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nsrlab1.uchicago.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3331C058.54EA@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Reply-To: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Univ. of Chicago References: <5grnfi$759@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:55:25 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Lines: 4 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27950 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25987 Whoops. My apologies. Dummy settings in Netscape (Joe Blow etc.) were still in place. Arno #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cdc2.cdc.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: Joe Blow Subject: Re: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nsrlab1.uchicago.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3331BFF5.50BB@site.com> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Reply-To: joe@site.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: joe's place References: <5grnfi$759@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:53:47 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Lines: 25 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27951 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25988 > What troubles me is that in Configure.app in the expert settings there is no entry for Memory Maps, I/O Ports, IRQ Levels. > Could this have anything to do wiith the symptoms I'm seeing? That doesn't matter - it doesn't, as far as I know, apply to PnP PCI cards. > Can anyone tell me how they have their expert settings configured using a #9Imagine128 Series 2 board? > Does anyone have any suggestions how I can get this board to work. Again, you don't need to worry about this. Based on my own experience however, I would make sure that you match the pre-set sync/resolution of your monitor with the settings in Configure.app. i.e. only select modes in Configure that are already preset for your monitor. But I may be wrong here. One other difficulty I had, which was just a stupid error on my part, was having both the beep and the SB16 drivers installed. This messed things up in various ways, incl. the display. Hope this helps. I am using the driver & card on a Dell PPro w/o any problems now (NS 3.3). good luck, arno #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!usenet From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:00:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: romdas.hip.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 1.66 $] NF-D-00021 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25396 comp.sys.next.hardware:27952 Can someone tell me if there is a problem with using 2 16MB 60ns non-parity SIMMS side by side 2 70ns 8MB non-parity SIMMs in my NeXT Turbo? Does it have to be 70ns across the board? Or is there a compatibility issue with 60 vs 70 ns SIMMs? E-mail responses, please. Thanks. John #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:11:05 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5gsqnp$boo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port6.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: hponeill@indigo.ie In Paul O'Neill wrote: > I was considering buying an Intel machine to run Openstep, however I have > been told of a Next station for sale locally, I am told its a Next 200 > colour, is there such a thing? no. the color machines made were: 1. NeXTstation Color (25 Mhz 12-bit color/4-bit alpha) 2. NeXTstation Turbo Color (33 Mhz 12-bit color/4-bit alpha) 3. NeXTCube w/ NeXTDimension (25 Mhz 24-bit color/12-bit alpha) 4. NeXTCube Turbo w/ NeXTDimension (33 Mhz 24-bit color/12-bit alpha) >Is it worth buying? at the right price, yes. >Whats it worth? check c.s.n.marketplace; price depends heavily on how much RAM, how much disk, how recent the OS version, and whether user only OS or includes developer tools. > Or should I opt for an Intel box? > how adverse are you to intel boxen? how much money do you have? how much speed do you need? >Opinions (however biased) needed... with the exception of sound support and overall integration, a "properly configured" intel system running 3.2 or greater is almost as pleasurable to use as a black box. modern intel boxes (P5, P6 >133 MHz) are quite fast. > Thanks, > Paul. -rick #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!GIMLI.genias.de!dali!news From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: RE: dual head display X-Nntp-Posting-Host: larson Message-ID: Sender: news@onevision.de Reply-To: hans@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:17:52 GMT Lines: 15 In article <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> ktchan writes: > Does any one have any chance test a Matrox dual head display? > > Only the Elsa have the power, the NeXTanswer mentioned the Matrox is > capable to display two monitor. > > Any one tried to do it? > We have two dual headed systems running using the Matrox. No problem. -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!GIMLI.genias.de!dali!news From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: **Newbie. (HELP)** X-Nntp-Posting-Host: leung Message-ID: Sender: news@onevision.de Reply-To: robert@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:33:15 GMT Lines: 40 In article tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) writes: > Just started using a NeXT Turbo Cube. Need to modify the rc.local file in > the /etc folder but will not let me save my modification. It tells me I > need to be in the ROOT but I am having a hard time understanding how to be > in the ROOT and then how to modify this file. > > In a nutshell, how do I get into the root so I can modify files like this > rc.local. Once I am in this root, how can I modify the file from there. > > Thanks you. > > Thomas Hi Thomas, I guess you have never seen the login panel of your Turbo Cube? If so, you are quite probably logged in as user "me" (which you can confirm by opening /NextApps/Terminal.app and typing "whoami"). Use Preferences.app (the clock icon in the dock) to set a password for user me. This will prevent NextStep from auto-logging you in as me. At the login panel, type "root" with no password and you will be logged in as user root (which is allowed to modify those system files, but be careful what you are doing!). It's also a good idea to set a password for user root (using Preferences.app, as above). At a terminal window, type "su" to change your current user to root (me is normally allowed to do this since it is in the wheel group). Hope this helps, Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ========================================================================== #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Over clocking a 25MHz NeXT Slab Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:50:18 GMT References: <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> <5gq2tl$434@mpaque.mpaque> <3330CB7F.4E70@wam.umd.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article <3330CB7F.4E70@wam.umd.edu>, Jeffrey S. Dutky wrote: > >Didn't Moto make 50 and 66 MHz versions of the '040 that were used >in some of the late model Macs? (I'm pretty sure that the PB190 >was a 66 MHz '040) I thought that those '040s were clock doubled. > '040s are *always* "clock doubled". They require (or at least work on) two clocks, one at, say, 33MHz and the other at 66MHz. What you're referring to was a marketing gimmick that Apple and Motorola used to make their machines look better once the onslaught of high clock-frequency Intel boxes came along. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: gambit@beast.erols.com (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanners for NEXTSTEP for Intel Date: 21 Mar 1997 05:12:22 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 6 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gt5bm$14s@boursy.news.erols.com> Reply-To: gcasamen@erols.com NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-as2s35.erols.com Hi, I am wondering which scanners will work with NSFIP. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks, Greg C. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mysolution.com!news From: Tommy Hwang Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:42:20 -0500 Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Lines: 29 Message-ID: <33322DCC.A93@mysolution.com> References: <5gsqnp$boo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: solaris1.mysolution.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Rick Sanford wrote: > how adverse are you to intel boxen? how much money do you have? how much > speed do you need? > > >Opinions (however biased) needed... > > with the exception of sound support and overall integration, a "properly > configured" intel system running 3.2 or greater is almost as pleasurable to > use as a black box. modern intel boxes (P5, P6 >133 MHz) are quite fast. Unfortunately, I have to disagree here... My laptop, 486/100 is performing better in almost every respect, than my NeXTCube 25 Megahertz (no Dimension board, however much I would love to have one). What's even more interesting is that I have 64Mb of RAM on my NeXTCube and only 40Mb on my laptop. Another thing... Don't get any of the black NeXT systems if you intend to use higher speed modem connection(s)... The serial port on the NeXT cube and stations can only handle up to 38,400bps... Even my laptop tops that. If the turbo-station or cube systems have serial ports that can handle X2 speed over voice ISDN channels (56K upload & 56K download in "host mode" confirmed on my laptop), Please tell me immediately - so I can buy one NOW. I know my words above sounds contradicting, but I love the shape and looks of the NeXT Black systems and I think it would be a great attraction in the restaurant (my parent own) instead of the ugly beige box, it is just unfortunate that the black systems I have can not handle the proper baud rate (56K or greater). -ME #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:15:01 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - <199703161811.NAA03525@kira.peak.org> <5grogb$6tc$1@darla.visi.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Matthew Goldman In-Reply-To: <5grogb$6tc$1@darla.visi.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On 20 Mar 1997, Matthew Goldman wrote: > : did you checkout the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP" @ > : > : http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html > > That is a nice faq; however, it fails to mention that the NeXT will > read/write PC and MAC formatted disks without any problems! Way cool, > 100 MB burst sneakernet! Probably assumed that people knew that, since NeXT can read/write all types of disks for DOS/Mac. I use it to impress my Mac/PC friends all the time.... one of them just bought a program to add this functionality to his PC. Just say no to expensive add-ons that should be part of the OS!!!! TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:40:39 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: John Badanes In-Reply-To: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat [ Replied only to *.hardware, messages should not be crossposted to *.misc! See charter on www.stepwise.com ] I believe that NeXT hardware cannot tell if your SIMMs are faster than 70ns. As long as the *pairs* are the same, there should not be any problem. TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor On 21 Mar 1997, John Badanes wrote: > Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:00:34 GMT > From: John Badanes > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc, comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS > > Can someone tell me if there is a problem with using 2 16MB > 60ns non-parity SIMMS side by side 2 70ns 8MB non-parity SIMMs > in my NeXT Turbo? > > Does it have to be 70ns across the board? Or is there a > compatibility issue with 60 vs 70 ns SIMMs? > > E-mail responses, please. > > Thanks. > > John > > #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount References: Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 21 Mar 97 07:18:18 GMT Lines: 38 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25398 comp.sys.next.hardware:27961 In article , Bill Anderson wrote: >The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got >the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't >remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I >have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files >(e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it >would not mount. > >Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I >wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice >on how to mount the OD? > >Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to >the crash. > >Thanks, > >Bill Anderson NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support the Optical Disk. It is possible that your optical disk drive has died (as many have done including mine and most of those owned by friends -- the laser gets weak, apparently, though sometimes it is just dust in the optical path which can be fixed). What are the symptoms of the OD not mounting, other than it doesn't show up? What messages? david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.149.24.18!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: Chuck Knight Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: '030 MB - HELP! Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:34:18 -0600 Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 39 Message-ID: <333239FA.5229@flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dasc3-149.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I used to absolutely DROOL every time I saw a NEXT cube...fabulous machine, and one that I always wanted. They came out with newer and faster machines, but the original cube always held a certain interest for me. Well, I'm just been given an '030 cube motherboard as a curiosity and, of course, I'd LOVE to hook it up and play. Unfortunately, this is *all* I have...an '030 cube motherboard with 8M of SIMMs. (OK, bare bones system...it's easy enough to add memory!) It's a leftover from an '030 to '040 upgrade. I assume that the power supply connector is located within the pin-and-socket connector at the end of the board...and, presumably this is also the bus. It's been years since I thought about NEXT, and I just lucked into this motherboard...I could use some help. What do I need to hack this machine, so I can get it up and running? A quick look at the connectors shows SCSI, ethernet, serial...maybe serial terminal is a workable option? It wouldn't be all pretty, but it'd show me that it works. Let's see...I'll need a SCSI hard drive, and CD-ROM. Anything else? Eh...first things first! At my disposal, I have a host of PC parts...can I hack a power supply from a standard PC power supply? I've noticed from the FAQ's and the posts in this newsgroup that it operates at the normal +-5 and +-12VDC, so it *should* be possible to hack it pretty easily. I've found the "no monitor boot" dongle schematic in the FAQ...that should also be pretty helpful. Now...anyone got an old copy of the OS lying around? :-) -- Chuck Knight mailto:cknight@flash.net P.S. Forgive the incoherence of this message...I should know better than to post at 1:30am. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: vick@earthling.net (Earthling Vick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.motherboards,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.systems Subject: (4) 4MB 70ns 30pin 9chip SIMMs $119 Shipped! 16MB Total! Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 02:00:38 -0600 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 5 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.98.133 X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v1.01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27963 misc.forsale.computers.memory:66832 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.misc:61004 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.motherboards:54767 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.systems:39548 FORSALE: (Qty 4) 4MB 70ns 30pin SIMMs (9 chip type) 16MB Total $119 2-Day Shipping FREE, but prepaid only (personal check is fine). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners for NEXTSTEP for Intel Date: 21 Mar 1997 08:26:54 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5gtgoe$3r7@news3.digex.net> References: <5gt5bm$14s@boursy.news.erols.com> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) gambit@beast.erols.com (Gregory John Casamento) wrote: > Hi, I am wondering which scanners will work with NSFIP. If anyone > has any suggestions, please let me know. http://www.ipc.de/information/products/index.html http://www.ipc.de/information/products/data/scanomatic.html ScanOmatic 2.2 395 NEXTSTEP scanner driver (HP, Umax-HSD, AGFA, EPSON) ScanOmatic 2.2 1,495 NEXTSTEP scanner driver (XRS-1, xray film scanner) ScanOmatic 2.2 998 NEXTSTEP scanner driver (Oce, large size scanner) Most agreed that the AGFA line was likely the best quality product supported... YMMV. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wetware!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting problem... Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:22:40 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Superfly In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat > I have a NeXT 040 Slab and I am having booting problems. My system hangs > when it starts up the ppp services. Is there a key combination that I can > use so that I may edit the startup so the ppp service doesn't start? > Any suggestions are more than helpful. Thanks! boot into single user mode and edit /etc/rc.local [ If you don't know how to do that, see my 'V-FAQ' page at the URL below ] > -Ryan (I love NeXTs) Me too. I dislike overly long .sig files, however, and would mention that it used to be netiquette not to have a .sig over 4 lines.... I know, living in the past... TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.sgi.com!wetware!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading 25 MHz mono slab: worth it? Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:26:25 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: alanlb@rrinc.com In-Reply-To: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 alanlb@rrinc.com wrote: > hello, i've a 25MHz mono slab with 20MB of memory running 3.2, > and am wondering whether (a) it's worth the expense to max it > out to 32MB and (b) OPENSTEP 4.1 will run comfortably (i wouldn't > want it to spend all its time swapping)... I would put in 32ram, but I wouldn't put OS4.1. I might put 4.2 when it comes out, but I'd probably wait to hear how stable it is. I've got a 040/25 that has 3.3 on it, and probably won't even get updated. TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor , it isn't my fault ;-) I'll be buying an Intel from http://www.bifrostworks.com/ next month. I've had a lot of contact with Jason McNamara there, and would highly recommend him to you or anyone else. TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading 25 MHz mono slab: worth it? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:04:20 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 62 Message-ID: <5gs8ok$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port9.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: alanlb@rrinc.com In <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> alanlb@rrinc.com wrote: > hello, i've a 25MHz mono slab with 20MB of memory running 3.2, > and am wondering whether (a) it's worth the expense to max it > out to 32MB and (b) OPENSTEP 4.1 will run comfortably (i wouldn't > want it to spend all its time swapping)... > > opinions, anyone? > > thanks! > alan > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet > opinions, being the key word, here. well it's worth it if the upgrade strategy compares favorably with the alternative(s). if the alternative is to replace the 040 with a i386 based PC, and you have: 1. need for speed 2. money enough for another computer 3. patience or "knowledge" to get the PC to work "almost as well as 040-based box" 4. need for color screen than probably not. if, on the other hand, the alternative is to stick with your current set-up: 25MHz mono slab 20MB of memory running 3.2 and you don't have: 1. need for speed 2. money enough for another computer 3. patience or "knowledge" to get the PC to work "almost as well as 040-based box" 4. need for color screen than it would be worth it. it's the cheapest, easiest route to "currency" in terms of OPENSTEP-ness. I think you'll recognize a difference in performance (positive) between 20 and 32 MB, and OS4.1 will run on a mono slab. whether it runs "fast" or not is a matter of individual perception. It should be plenty usable, I think, unless you are one of those rare folks who don't want your computer to swap. ever. period. also, for a user, the requirements may go down from those of a developer. if you are using the machine for normal non-development tasks, the mono will (IMHO) work OK with 4.1 and 32 MB. for dev work and compiles, etc. you would want, at the very least, either another machine on a network to use as a compile server, or a good book of short stories to keep handy. I've still got a 25MHz 040 machine on my network, running 3.2 on only 8 MB and I find it usable. it swaps, so OK. It's not as fast as, well, as a "faster machine" would be. so OK. I deal with it. I would imagine 4.1 with 32 would compare favorably to my 3.2 with 8. -rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What the hell is a Quix Daydream? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:09:13 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5gs91p$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <332F9ABB.7239@earthlink.net> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port9.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: rmarkle@earthlink.net In <332F9ABB.7239@earthlink.net> Rich Markle wrote: > I know it has something to do with running Mac programs, but what is it > exactly? Thanks in advance. > > roughly, it is Apple MAC LC rom(s?) in a box that plugs into the dsp port of a moto (040) NeXT, allowing one to boot either as NeXTSTEP _or_ MAC/OS (7.x). No using both at the same time, no sound support (MAC audio apps don't work); colour works fine from what I have heard, and can be used on a NeXTDimension. There may be some info in the FAQ or there may be a web site somewhere with info. -rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:03:38 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 34 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gu80a$9s9@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <3331BFF5.50BB@site.com> <5grnfi$759@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] In Re: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 comp.sys.next.hardware writes, >> What troubles me is that in Configure.app in the expert settings there is no entry for Memory Maps, I/O Ports, IRQ Levels. >> Could this have anything to do wiith the symptoms I'm seeing? > > That doesn't matter - it doesn't, as far as I know, apply to PnP PCI > cards. > >> Can anyone tell me how they have their expert settings configured using a #9Imagine128 Series 2 board? >> Does anyone have any suggestions how I can get this board to work. > > Again, you don't need to worry about this. Based on my own experience > however, I would make sure that you match the pre-set sync/resolution of > your monitor with the settings in Configure.app. i.e. only select modes > in Configure that are already preset for your monitor. But I may be > wrong here. > > One other difficulty I had, which was just a stupid error on my part, > was having both the beep and the SB16 drivers installed. This messed > things up in various ways, incl. the display. > > Hope this helps. I am using the driver & card on a Dell PPro w/o any > problems now (NS 3.3). > > good luck, > > arno Unfortunately, my video monitor doesn't have user controlled sync/resolutions. I have a Hitachi 21" multiscan/multisync monitor that is supposed to autosync. I've carefully read through the manual and there is no mention of how to manually set the sync & resolution. David #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!wizard.pn.com!news.gte.com!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!news@tiac.net From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading 25 MHz mono slab: worth it? Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:33:52 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5gu9p0$ecu@news-central.tiac.net> References: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> <5gs8ok$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.215.178.73 In-Reply-To: <5gs8ok$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 >I would imagine 4.1 with 32 would compare favorably to my 3.2 with 8. I disagree. I had 3.3 with 8MB then I upgraded to 4.1 (yeah, 4.1 run on 8MB and I could do basic stuff and even once I surfed the net. Call me crazy) and later added another 12MB. My perseption is that 4.1 with 20MB is faster then 3.1 (3.3) 8MB. Regards, Aleksey #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.ironhorse.com!sloth.swcp.com!reader1.news.act.net!usenet From: Robert Nicholson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:22:16 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> <5gfp5d$edq@news2.cais.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: justine.elastica.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 I just take my Kinesis to work every day :-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.ironhorse.com!sloth.swcp.com!reader1.news.act.net!usenet From: Robert Nicholson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:21:01 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: justine.elastica.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Well I use a Kinesis Model 130 ... bit radical but it depends what you want. I also tried the Lexmark Keyboard but elected to go the whole hog with the Kinesis. After sticking at it .. I definately feel a lot more comfortable on the kinesis that my previous keyboard. http://www.kinesis-ergo.com I think. Thanks Scott! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.ironhorse.com!sloth.swcp.com!reader1.news.act.net!usenet From: Robert Nicholson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:25:29 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: aa6378859a55f060074d7f6aa0e10f7e - <199703180318.WAA08371@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: justine.elastica.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 "Timothy J. Luoma" writes: > > Responding To: Robert La Ferla > Original Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:24:29 GMT > > > You should also check out Kinesis which uses a cup-layout for > > their keyboard. > > I did checkout Kinesis, which costs over $200 for a "basic" > keyboard! There's nothing basic about the Kinesis keyboard. You should perhaps ring up a vendor and use their 30 day trial period. Warning. You have to make a large commitment to use the keyboard though. I almost gave up and don't regret sticking at it. Honestly though. I don't know what you do but for my health $200 or the difference in price b/w a MS Natural or some other keyboard isn't significant. Depends on whether you're a poor student I guess :-) A little rich for my blood, although it would be nice. > Right now I'm going back and forth between an ergo (at work) and a > non-ergo at home. I'm faster on the non, because I'm used to it, > but the ergo does feel better and forces me to type better. > The kinesis will _force_ you to type better you really have no other choice. Like I said. It's an all or nothing thing with the kinesis since initially you won't feel comfortable on it. > TjL > > -- > TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK > META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ > NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me > Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.ironhorse.com!sloth.swcp.com!reader1.news.act.net!usenet From: Robert Nicholson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.1 won't startup after just installing Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:26:54 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Lines: 5 Message-ID: References: <313f9090.1233103@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: justine.elastica.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Have you tried verbose mode? at the boot prompt enter -v and see how far it gets ... I'm guessing it will get as far as inetd and then block on sendmail #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Date: 21 Mar 1997 17:41:35 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5guh8f$h5s@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Reply-To: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sdx-ca10-01.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Mar 21 11:41:35 AM CST 1997 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25401 comp.sys.next.hardware:27976 In <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> David Hill wrote: > In article , > Bill Anderson wrote: > >The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got > >the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't > >remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I > >have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files > >(e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it > >would not mount. > > > >Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I > >wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice > >on how to mount the OD? > > > >Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to > >the crash. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Bill Anderson > > NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support the Optical Disk. > > It is possible that your optical disk drive has died (as many have done > including mine and most of those owned by friends -- the laser gets > weak, apparently, though sometimes it is just dust in the optical > path which can be fixed). > > What are the symptoms of the OD not mounting, other than it doesn't > show up? What messages? > > david > I would try and clean it. Mine died on my several times but only required a little cleaning to get up and running again. Search NEXTAnswers for directions on how to clean the OD. Its a little involved though... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!uhog.mit.edu!newsfeed.gte.net!news-in.iadfw.net!gryphon.phoenix.net!phillips From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac Logic Board Batteries Date: 21 Mar 1997 20:00:57 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5gupdp$ckv$2@gryphon.phoenix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha1.phoenix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] First, forgive me for posting off topic. This is also NOT a troll for flames or computer religion. This a good deal that I wanted to spread the word on. Oh, you folks are so CYNICAL! It is not spam or an ad. If you work on Macs (or would like to) the Mac Logic Board web pages (see my sig for the URL) will be useful for you. This advertisement-free site tells you how to recognize and cure the Dying Logic Board Battery problem. The site has photos, tips, links, trivia, etc. Since you folks may get questions about Macs - these pages should be of interest. -- Charles D Phillips Check the Recycling And Hazardous Waste Disposal Web page at: Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!noc.van.hookup.net!news.nol.net!gryphon.phoenix.net!phillips From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: While We Were On The Topic Of Batteries .. Date: 21 Mar 1997 20:03:34 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5gupim$ckv$3@gryphon.phoenix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha1.phoenix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] If anyone in Houston, Texas has a NeXT cube and would not mind - I would like to take some photos of it. Could I ask for email replies?? TIA -- Charles D Phillips Check the Recycling And Hazardous Waste Disposal Web page at: Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!ts05-16.dublin.indigo.ie!user From: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: 21 Mar 1997 23:37:49 GMT Organization: Paul O'Neill Designs Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts05-16.dublin.indigo.ie In article , hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) wrote: > I was considering buying an Intel machine to run Openstep, however I have > been told of a Next station for sale locally. I have found out more about the machine for sale: NeXT Turbo Colour with 16MB RAM, 250 MB HD 17 inch colour monitor, mic/speaker, keyboard and mouse. Nexts are very rare in this part of the world (Ireland), I have never actually seen one. I need to know if this is a suitable machine on which to learn Openstep programming or is it hopelessly out of date and should I get a Pentium. The object of course is to have some idea how to program Rhapsody when it arrives ( yes I'm another refugee from Macland....). Some other questions that spring to mind are: What kind of RAM is fitted? Is it soldered in or socketed? Can I still get system software updates for this machine? Is Openstep really as nice as it looks in the Mags? Many Thanks, Paul. -- Paul O'Neill Designs Electronic & Software Product Development email : hponeill@indigo.ie web : http://indigo.ie/~hponeill #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Date: 22 Mar 1997 00:33:46 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5gv9db$bd1$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> Reply-To: clowenstein@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) In <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > I just purchased an external NeXT CDROM and expect I need > some advice on using it. > Ah, I placed a CD having SoftPC for Next into the CD-ROM caddy and > inserted it into the CD-ROM figuring that any NeXT machine ought to > be able to read the CD-ROM. > After booting the machine prompts me with the message : > "External Disk is unreadable" and later "Do you really want to erase?" You don't say what version of NeXTstep you are running. There were some modifications made to the software that handles CDROM file systems about vintage NS2.1. A floppy disk with the new CDROM.fs code was distributed with the NS Educational Demo software back in 1991 or so. By this time, your best bet is to get NS3.3 with its floppy disk auxiliary software, and go from there. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!cyclops.dsphere.net!mfs-annex1-p25.dsphere.net!user From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '030 MB - HELP! Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:35:15 -0800 Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <333239FA.5229@flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mfs-annex1-p25.dsphere.net Great idea, but you have quite a challenge ahead of you. First you have to get power to this board, second you have to somehow connect a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to this thing. No easy task since all three plug in through the same connecter. I've never heard of anyone using a non-next keyboard, but I you can use an old logitech bus mouse, if you can find one. The technical challenges are steep enough that I've never heard of anyone doing what you suggest. Good luck! Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!news-hk.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.glink.net.hk!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.149.24.18!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: Chuck Knight Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '030 MB - HELP! Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:35:01 -0600 Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 37 Message-ID: <33334555.53BF@flash.net> References: <333239FA.5229@flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dasc10-207.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) To: Joel Lingenfelter X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Joel Lingenfelter wrote: > > Great idea, but you have quite a challenge ahead of you. > > First you have to get power to this board, second you have to somehow > connect a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to this thing. Exactly. I didn't see a "PC standard" power connector, so I assume it's incorporated into one of the other connectors...either the system bus connector at the "end" of the board, or the 19-pin connector on the back. After I get basic power, the other hardware should be easy to connect...it would just be standard SCSI stuff. I was thinking about using a simple serial terminal at first...it *is* a UNIX box, after all...at least until I can find a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. > No easy task since all three plug in through the same connecter. I've > never heard of anyone using a non-next keyboard, but I you can use an old > logitech bus mouse, if you can find one. Logitech mouse? You're kidding! Those are common as dirt, whereas anything NEXT seems to be rare. (They never seemed to catch on in Dallas) > The technical challenges are steep enough that I've never heard of anyone > doing what you suggest. Good luck! Well, if the "old timers" (I've been at this long enough to be called an old timer) could create "hackintoshes," then I should be able to hack a NEXT. -- Chuck Knight #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!usenet From: me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: The perfect [OPENSTEP] motherboard. Date: 21 Mar 1997 19:04:31 GMT Organization: MUC.DE e.v -- private Internet access Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5gum3v$mmk@guide.muc.de> References: <5ghgec$n77@news3.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: thyls.muc.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) John Kheit wrote: >It's the Asus P65UP5. What's so great about it. Well, it uses a daughter >card to house dual PentiumPro processors. Ok, so what's so great about >that? Well, the very same motherboard takes another daughter card that >housed dual Pentium processors. That might mean, when P7's come out, it >will only require a Daughter card swap to upgrade. Why, because the >daughter card also contains the chipset. Neat, no? Oh it also has 8 simm >sockets instead of the standard 4. If the information I got from Asus at Cebit is correct, they are already redesigning the passive(?!) motherboard for the Klamath type CPUs. So, assumably, one would not be able to take advantage of the theoretical upgrade possiblity, since the board has reached its technical limit. Also, I do not see SMP support in OpenStep/mach/intel in the near future. My personal favorite is the Asus P/I-P55T2P4S, since it has, as the first Asus Pentium board, an onboard SCSI adapter (2940 compatible). Well, it only has six SIMMs though... Thyl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!usenet From: sk68@cornell.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: N0n-Intel Pentium-like chips for NS3.3/4.1? Date: 22 Mar 1997 05:59:14 GMT Organization: Cornell University Lines: 9 Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5gvsfi$3c6@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cu-dialup-0031.cit.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi everyone, Does anyone know if Pentium class chips from companies other than Intel work with NeXTSTEP 3.3 or 4.0/4.1? I just wanted to know if AMD chips work well, if at all, with NeXTSTEP. Thanks everyone, Sung Ho Kim sk68@cornell.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS Date: 21 Mar 1997 16:27:19 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5guct7$c4t$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article , >I believe that NeXT hardware cannot tell if your SIMMs are faster than >70ns. The turbo hardware does know, because I have 60ns SIMMs and the monitor says so at powerup. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!not-for-mail From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: N0n-Intel Pentium-like chips for NS3.3/4.1? Date: 24 Mar 1997 07:21:47 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h5a2b$o12$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <199703232006.PAA12054@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au In article <199703232006.PAA12054@kira.peak.org> writes: >*This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* >*This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* >Responding To: sk68@cornell.edu >Original Date: 22 Mar 1997 05:59:14 GMT >Message-ID: a983b31c26142c6d42923c76b82a0c8a - > >> I just wanted to know if AMD chips work well, >> if at all, with NeXTSTEP. > >I believe that people have gotten them to work in general, but >either AMD or Cyrix could not work with OmniWeb, which would be a >problem for me.... I'm sticking with the Pentium for my new Intel... It's not just OmniWeb which is the problem. At least for Cyrix/IBM 6x86 chips, the kernel hangs will manifest infrequently using the File Viewer, but can be consistently induced with Omniweb. The problem is deep in the kernel, and Omniweb is multithreaded which is what is causing the problem. Don't buy one; much as I reject monopolies, Intel is the only chip NeXT tests on. -- Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia Smith +61-9-380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: [Q] Booting Problem on the NeXTslab Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <332CEA72.79E@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:51:37 GMT Lines: 41 In article <332CEA72.79E@soback.kornet.nm.kr> younghoon KIL writes: > Hi, I have a NeXTslab and All at once, I could not booting my > slab(IBM 2.1GB). Here is the error massage. > > > Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c > NeXT>b sd > boot sd(0,0,0) > booting SCSI target 0, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd()sdmach > Booting from SCSI target 0 lun 0 > sdmach: not found > load failed > > blk0 boot: ec > Bad device > load failed > > > I have another NeXTslab and external CDROM drive. > Please give me some advice. > Thanks, > Now that you have a secons bootable configuration you'd just need a way to externally connect a disk drive (some kind of external SCSI enclosure and cabling). If you can't find a way to fix your drive by other means remove it from the slab, change the SCSI-ID to something suitable on the second slab (in general one higher than the boot drive, i.e. ID #2), and put it in the external cabinet. Then attach it to the second slab and boot verbously. That should put you in a more suitable environment for debugging the drive. Alternatively, you could confirm that the problem is with the disk by swapping them. If the problem travels with the drive... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: need pointers to pinout of black laser printer Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:10:50 GMT Lines: 33 In article Bebe Nicolae Bondoc writes: > Hello, > > I have a black next laser printer and I would like to make a custom > interface from it to my slab ... > > I know that the cable is a DB-9 MM one-to-one but I would like to know > what pin is what ... I am planing on adding a few LEDs and buttons. > Hi to all the all the "zwiebelkuchen" guys out there (I really love Zwiebelkuchen :-) Although I don't think messing around with a NeXTlaser connection is a good idea (high speed synch port, altering the signal timing might directly affect print quality!), here comes the pinout (from the user manual that came with my slab): Pin 1 Clock Pin 2 Data in Pin 3 Data out 1 Pin 4 Data out 2 Pin 5 Power enable Pin 6-8 Ground Pin 9 NC Have fun, and don't fry he circuit ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: The fuse inside NeXTstation power supplies Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5gontk$1o1@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:28:56 GMT Lines: 43 In article <5gontk$1o1@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> sbrandon@music.gla.ac.uk (Stephen Brandon - SysAdmin) writes: > I've seen several posts here recently talking about dead power > supplies. I had one yesterday morning, and luckily had a spare > sitting around (purchased from Jim Moosmann). > > Another time this happened, I could hear glass tinkling around > in the supply and correctly assumed the fuse was blown, but in > trying to get at the fuse to simply replace it, I broke the > connection between 2 of the boards in the supply. I never went > any further with it. > > This time though, I realised that the fuse is situated adjacent > to the connector where the power cable goes in. Instead of trying > to pull the whole thing apart, I simply removed this connector > (not too hard), and because the wires holding it in were long > enough, it simply dangled out. The fuse was then accessible at > the point of a screwdriver. > > I haven't tried to replace the fuse yet, but there's always a > chance that the fuse *is* the only thing blown. I live in hope. > Not that I find pleasure in putting you down, but... This fuse is a means of last resort to make sure the power supply won't catch fire if a critical part blows up. Since the thing has an operating range from 100 - 240 VAC and the fuse has to support the current for the 100 V case, the energy that is transferred while blowing the fuse on a 230 V setting is by far enough to fry the cirquit. In most cases this fuse only blows because of a break down in a switching transistor... I sincerily hope to be wrong in your case! I've read about successful repairs of the power supply. But the descriptions read as if it takes an experienced technician with a good stomach and sophisticated equipment (solderd ceramic isolation wafers, for instance). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.35.48.11!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!mercury.vcu.edu!atlas.vcu.edu!not-for-mail From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ATI video cards no longer supported ? Date: 24 Mar 1997 07:50:54 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h5tbe$19l2@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <5gcmb3$g8o$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.vcu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27990 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26009 croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) writes: >I just spoke to a NeXT tech support rep about problems I'm having with ATI's >new Mach64 cards using the 264VT or Rage chipsets. That BIOS revision isn't >supported by the current ATI driver, and he does not anticipate that any >updates will be forthcoming since the driver engineers have been relocated to >the Rhapsody group. NeXT recently posted an ATI Rage driver on NeXTanswers (see the sorted by date index). Now all the Gateway 2000's that VCU has been buying can display color under OPENSTEP/Mach. However, the 3Com Etherlink III PCI cards aren't yet. :-( ..Bill Chin s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin` Subject: #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 Date: 24 Mar 1997 16:03:39 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h68kr$hf7@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] You may have seen my previous post regarding my request for help. Well I have some answers now. To bring you back up to speed I have a 4Mb #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 (Rev 2) video board in my 64Mb Micron Pentium Pro system. In systems I have installed this board into in the past, I have had no problems. It turns out that in the older systems they are all running NeXTStep 3.3. Using #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 under 3.3 is supported, while at home I have Openstep 4.1 and the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 does not yet have a supported driver. Now my problem is, when will NeXT get off their duff and recompile/write the driver for the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 _or_ should I just give up and buy another video board _or_ just abort Openstep at home? Unfortunately, I tried downgrading to NeXTSTep 3.3 but I have the problem of having a Adaptec 2940UW controller with a wide disk and I haven't been able to get 3.3 working with that controller. It appears that driver compatibility is a major problem with NeXT.. David A. Johnson Research Engineer, Feinberg Cardiovascular Research Institute, Northwestern University #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.68.191.16!news.accessone.com!news1.cstone.net!news5.digex.net!haven.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!usenet From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 11:21:32 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 47 Message-ID: <3336AA00.3F9D@wam.umd.edu> References: Reply-To: dutky@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: annex13-31.dial.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Paul O'Neill wrote: > > In article , > hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) wrote: > > > I was considering buying an Intel machine to run Openstep, > > however I have been told of a Next station for sale locally. > > I have found out more about the machine for sale: > > NeXT Turbo Colour with 16MB RAM, 250 MB HD > 17 inch colour monitor, mic/speaker, > keyboard and mouse. > > Nexts are very rare in this part of the world (Ireland), I have > never actually seen one. I need to know if this is a suitable > machine on which to learn Openstep programming or is it hopelessly > out of date and should I get a Pentium. The object of course is > to have some idea how to program Rhapsody when it arrives ( yes > I'm another refugee from Macland....). If the price of the NeXT is similar to or less than the price of the RAM and a similar monitor on the open market then this system is well worth buying. When you get a current version of OPENSTEP it will make a nice system to learn about the basis behind Rhapsody on, though compiles might be a bit slow. > Some other questions that spring to mind are: > What kind of RAM is fitted? > Is it soldered in or socketed? The RAM should be 72-pin SIMMs. Not soldered or socketed. > Can I still get system software updates for this machine? You can get OPENSTEP 4.1 currently from NeXT. The exact product name is OPENSTEP for Mach for NeXT. Some people have been saying to hold off on buying OPENSTEP until they release 4.2 sometime this summer. > Is Openstep really as nice as it looks in the Mags? I am using an old version of NeXTstep right now and it is at least as pleasant as the MacOS. So pleasant, in fact, that I have been considering abandoning my Mac for a pure OPENSTEP box. Fortunately Apple has made that a moot choice. I can't wait for Rhapsody. - Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!not-for-mail From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: power supply of laser printer broken Date: 24 Mar 1997 16:54:51 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5h6bkr$s0r@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950515BETA PL0] Hello, The power supply of my Next laser printer is damaged. I'd need some documentation about it. Is there something available on it? thanx winfried -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ========================================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: david minor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep 4.1 on a Thinkpad 560?? Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:39:47 -0600 Organization: UW-Madison, College of Engineering Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3336CA73.25B6@facstaff.wisc.edu> Reply-To: dhminor@facstaff.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: admin.engr.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Hi all--we have a question we're hoping someone can help us with: We are trying to install NeXT Openstep 4.1 for Mach on a Thinkpad 560. According to the NeXTAnswers website this machine should be compatible. We're not getting very far with the installation, however--the drivers included on the installation disks all seem to be for SCSI devices. The (external) CD-ROM and floppy drive attached to the machine are PCMCIA. We can't get any of the drivers to even recognize that these devices exist. Has anyone had experience with this, or have suggestions? TIA for any help. david minor College of Engineering Administrative Support #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!cyclic.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!clas.ufl.edu!hee.phys.ufl.edu!ddr From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 00:36:20 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hee.phys.ufl.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27995 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26011 comp.sys.next.software:28758 In article <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> abosse@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: >> >> Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: >> 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus >> >> Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com >> >> Thanks, Stan > >Yes, I'm in the same boat. No driver is available. Maybe someone at NeXT >will re-assure us that the driver is on the "planned" list... > >Arno I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC to twisted pait in 6 months. Thanks, Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Dept., University of Florida Bldg 104 Rm. 5 --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!odin.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!news.donet.com!news From: lewanto@stan.donet.com (Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 22 Mar 1997 15:56:00 GMT Organization: Dayton Ohio Network (DONet, Inc.) Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: stan.donet.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27996 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26012 comp.sys.next.software:28761 Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com Thanks, Stan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: P120 vs P133 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 11:09:51 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 15 Message-ID: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: nsfip-homebrew@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 processors are selling for what looks like only $40 more than P120. I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for $40 it seems worthwhile to upgrade. Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price diff or was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether the diff between P120 and P133 is significant? Thanks TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:46:18 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 28 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: <5h68kr$hf7@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) daj@nwu.edu,UseNet writes: >To bring you back up to speed I have a 4Mb #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 (Rev 2) video board in my 64Mb Micron Pentium Pro system. >In systems I have installed this board into in the past, I have had no problems. It turns out that in the older systems they are all running NeXTStep 3.3. Using #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 under 3.3 is supported, while at home I have Openstep 4.1 and the #9 >Imagine 128 Series 2 does not yet have a supported driver. >Now my problem is, when will NeXT get off their duff and recompile/write the driver for the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 _or_ >should I just give up and buy another video board _or_ just abort Openstep at home? Unfortunately, I tried downgrading to NeXTSTep 3.3 but I have the problem of having a Adaptec 2940UW controller with a wide disk and I haven't been able to get 3.3 >working with that controller. It appears that driver compatibility is a major problem with NeXT.. I am using the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 video card with OS 4.1 on a Dell Dimension XPS Pro just fine. Download the beta series 2 driver from the Next ftp archive in the 3.3 drivers directory. It works just fine under 4.1 -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news From: nospamthanx@nowhere.com (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 22:03:32 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5h6tnk$fse@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chrome.psych.ualberta.ca In-Reply-To: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.230 $] NF-S-00020 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:27999 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26015 comp.sys.next.software:28763 On 03/23/97, Daniel D. Roscigno wrote: .. Etherlink XL... >I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI >ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC >to twisted pait in 6 months. I've had good success with the Cogent EM 960 and the Inter Etherexpress Pro/10. Both are available in combo versions, and both have solid NS 3.3 drivers. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Date: 24 Mar 1997 21:44:32 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5h6sk0$hlf$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: luomat@peak.org In Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 processors are > selling for what looks like only $40 more than P120. > > I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for $40 it > seems worthwhile to upgrade. > > Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price diff or > was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether the diff between > P120 and P133 is significant? It is since the bus runs only with 30 Mhz on a 120 or 150 Mhz Pentium system, but with 33 MHz on a 100 or 133 MHz PC. (Memory clock is 60 MHz vs. 66 MHz). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 70 vs. 60 ns RAM in NeXT Turbo ADB Date: 24 Mar 1997 22:01:18 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 24 Sender: -no- @pm102-18.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5h6tje$kge$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm102-18.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Hallo, I have read the NeXTanswers and all the info related to RAM installation in old NeXT hardware. But I would like to ask for personal experience: Did 60ns SIMMs slow down your Turbo Station Color ADB (or other Turbos)? I find it a little silly buying 70ns chips when 60ns are 1) cheaper 2) better investment. On the other hand, if the hardware is programmed in a fashion similar to if (70ns) then go_fast else slow_down then I don't wanna risk slowing my comptuter down. Thanks. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@night.com (Creature) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:35:38 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip164.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 24 Mar 1997 22:36:21 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.381 >Hi, >I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help on this. >I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 >What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. >I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for >Motorola, but I am not sure. > >Thanks for the help, >-Mark I am kind of new myself, but I have heard that you do NOT want to run OS on moto. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!newsfeed.gte.net!news-in.iadfw.net!gryphon.phoenix.net!phillips From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Over clocking a 25MHz NeXT Slab Date: 22 Mar 1997 17:08:51 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Lines: 62 Message-ID: <5h13n3$8lf$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> References: <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> <5gq2tl$434@mpaque.mpaque> <3330CB7F.4E70@wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha1.phoenix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jeffrey S. Dutky (dutky@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : Mike Paquette wrote: : > : > In article <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> ahh@eng.sun.com writes: : > > Has anyone tried over clocking their 25MHz NeXT Slab? If : > > so, what is the highest clock speed that they were : > > able to achieve without adding wait states to the memory : > > & NuBus? : > : > It won't work. The same clock that drives the CPU also drives a : > number of other things (video, DSP, sound...), resulting in : > undesirable side effects. There's no NuBus in a slab. Everything : > hangs off the memory bus. Not being a NeXT hardware guy, I rush in where angels fear to tread .. At least on Macs, even non-NuBus Macs, there are always (that I have seen) multiple oscillators that clock different components. The problems we Mac chippers have is with the serial ports, floppy drive etc. and seldom with the video. I am now also trying to chip the data busses of Macs in hopes that some of the older fellows might still run faster. Like the LC040 Q 605 runs at 33 MHz (by changing resistor configs and not oscillators) but can run at 40 MHz by changing the oscillator that runs the data bus. : > Now, if you happen to be a studly hardware hacker, you might be : > able to design a daughter card to stuff in the 040 socket that : > would run the 040 at a faster rate, while phase locking with the : > CPU board clock, and doing interesting things to timing signals : > going between the main board and the CPU. I'd suggest the name : > 'Nitro' for the card... : > : > > How about replacing the 040 with a faster part? At least on Macs, this is not necessary. See the Clock Chipping pages http://violet.berkeley.edu/~schrier/mhz.html for an explanation of how Motorola speed rates the 68k series of chips. : > This only has an effect if you could change the clock rate. : > An 040 with a 25 MHz clock runs at 25 MHz. : Didn't Moto make 50 and 66 MHz versions of the '040 that were used : in some of the late model Macs? (I'm pretty sure that the PB190 : was a 66 MHz '040) I thought that those '040s were clock doubled. Marketing fluff. : - Jeff Dutky -- Charles D Phillips Check the Recycling And Hazardous Waste Disposal Web page at: Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!198.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:57:33 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.50.198 In article <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com>, Creature@night.com (Creature) wrote: > >Hi, > >I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help on this. > >I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 > >What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. > >I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for > >Motorola, but I am not sure. > > You have to wait for Rhapsody. > > I am kind of new myself, but I have heard that you do NOT want to run > OS on moto. > NeXTstep runs really well on Motorola hardware. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!visi.com!not-for-mail From: David Young Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Odd bit of hardware.. Date: 24 Mar 1997 23:52:34 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5h7442$fqr$1@darla.visi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: object.metaverse.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970123] This isn't exactly a .next.hardware, but it's associated with my NeXT, so... I'm looking for a UHF/VHF tuner or a cable box I can control in software, preferably via a serial port, to pipe the TV signal to my ND. Rolling cables not a problem. If anyone knows of such a device, or a kit, or something, I'd appreciate the info. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dove Fax software (old stuff) Date: 24 Mar 1997 23:48:11 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5h73rr$44n@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <5gk6b1$68e$1@kahu.mrtc.org> Reply-To: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber34.bordeaux.imaginet.fr If you're still in need of a DoveFax.pkg, I could upload it to the ftp directory whose URL you'll give me. __Pascal Bourguignon__ In article <5gk6b1$68e$1@kahu.mrtc.org> danno@mrtc.org (Dan Bigelow) writes: > Hi, > > every-so-often i need to get a fax on my home system, and I have an old > dove-fax with a corrupted (or just wrong) DoveFax.pkg... > > They are no-whereto be found on the net, and without the working software, > i'm outta luck. Anyone have a copy of the old Dove Fax software they > can send me (attach? - nextmail welcome). > > Any help or pointers would be appreciated... > > be well, > > danno #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting problem... Date: 24 Mar 97 13:10:54 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-13-10.access.one.net In-reply-to: Timothy Luoma's message of Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:22:40 -0800 In article , Timothy Luoma writes: > -Ryan (I love NeXTs) Me too. I dislike overly long .sig files, however, and would mention that it used to be netiquette not to have a .sig over 4 lines.... I know, living in the past... 4 lines? Bah, Tim, you're wasting my pixels, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI timeouts (Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice) Date: 25 Mar 1997 01:30:06 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5h79qu$pg8@news.next.com> References: <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org> Reply-To: mark_bessey@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bananajr.next.com "Timothy J. Luoma" writes > ps -- it would be really nice if Rhapsody was smart enough not to > wait so long for a drive without a disk in it. The floppy drives > are recognized immediately disk or no, but my CD-ROM and SyQuest > drive both wait for about 10 seconds waiting for a disk when none is > available. "It made sense at the time". No, really! Some of the older cubes here have hard drives that take even longer than that to spin up and be ready for reading - they timeout the first time the system is turned on. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!ncar!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:49:07 GMT Lines: 42 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25406 comp.sys.next.hardware:28009 In article <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>, David Hill wrote: >In article , >Bill Anderson wrote: >>The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got >>the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't >>remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I >>have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files >>(e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it >>would not mount. >> >>Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I >>wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice >>on how to mount the OD? >> >>Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to >>the crash. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Bill Anderson > >NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support the Optical Disk. > >It is possible that your optical disk drive has died (as many have done >including mine and most of those owned by friends -- the laser gets >weak, apparently, though sometimes it is just dust in the optical >path which can be fixed). > >What are the symptoms of the OD not mounting, other than it doesn't >show up? What messages? > Yes, you can either open the ROM montor and watch the booting message, or examine file /usr/adm/message to see if the OD drive is still alive and recognized. If it does, then mount it manually, something like "/etc/mount /dev/od1(a?) /mnt1...." If it does not show up when booting, you may run out of luck. My OD drive still works though. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: 25 Mar 1997 01:26:16 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5h79jo$pdp@news.next.com> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> Reply-To: mark_bessey@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bananajr.next.com Mark C Mieczkowski writes > Hi, > I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help > on this. I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an > '040 and a PPC601 > What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get > it. I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x > for Motorola, but I am not sure. OPENSTEP doesn't run on Macs yet. You'll want to wait for Rhapsody, Apple's next-generation Operating System (coming later this year), which will run on Power Macintoshes and will be OpenStep compliant. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:40:30 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: Mark C Mieczkowski In-Reply-To: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> On 24 Mar 1997, Mark C Mieczkowski wrote: > I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help on this. > I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 > What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. > I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for > Motorola, but I am not sure. I think you might be a little confused - 1. A NeXTcube is a computer (hardware) not an operating system (software). It's one of the machines NeXT released during its short stint of manufacturing great hardware (circa 1988 - 1993) 2. You can't run NEXTSTEP or OpenStep on any Macs right now. NEXTSTEP and Openstep/Mach for Motorola are the operating systems that run on NeXT hardware (like the NeXTcube, NeXTstation, NeXTstation Color, etc). NeXT's machines used 040's (except for the original "NeXT Computer," which used an 030), hence the "Motorola" designation. Even though the chip is the same as the one in your Mac, the entire system architecture is different. 3. Apple's new operating system, based on NEXTSTEP, will (hopefully) be out in a year or so. Your 040 won't run it. Your PPC601 probably won't run it either, at least not in the first release. However, the final, "Unified" release may yet support 601-based PowerMacs. If you want to run NEXTSTEP or OpenStep today, you have only 2 (practical) options: 1. Buy a used NeXT machine. They're fairly cheap now, especially with the big fire sale from M-Tech (look for an article from James Moosmann in comp.sys.next.marketplace) Price for a complete, "high-end" NeXTstation Turbo Color with a 21" monitor should run about $1100 once you buy more RAM and a hard drive (if you buy from M-Tech). 2. Buy an Intel box configured to run OpenStep/Mach or NEXTSTEP. You can build your own, but if you're a novice in the Intel world, I wouldn't recommend it. You might check a few companies that build Intel boxes specifically to run NEXTSTEP or OpenStep/Mach. A few URLS: http://www.bifrostworks.com http://www.deepspacetech.com http://www.optimal-object.com Hope this helps a bit. NeXT's web site can be confusing unless you know what you're looking for (even then, it's not ideal). -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@night.com (Creature) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:21:09 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 13 Message-ID: <333752a0.103276344@news.mindspring.com> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip162.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 25 Mar 1997 04:21:55 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.381 >> I am kind of new myself, but I have heard that you do NOT want to run >> OS on moto. >> >NeXTstep runs really well on Motorola hardware. I meant OS as in OPENSTEP. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!acsu.buffalo.edu!mieczko1 From: Mark Mieczkowski Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: thanks for the help. Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:00:07 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: mieczko1 To: Isaac In-Reply-To: Originator: mieczko1@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, Isaac wrote: > I think you might be a little confused - > Thanks. I was confused. Too bad. I am excited about rhapsody and I was kinda hoping to get my feet wet with Next before Rhapsody came along. I can't justify buying an intel or used Next cube when my mac hardware is in need of an upgrade (in light of the fact that it won't even run rhapsody!) I plan to sell two systems and try toget a minimal PPC604 PCI mac. With that mac in hand, I think I can lay my hands on a developer seed release of rhapsody due (from what I hear) at apple's WWDC. (FWIW) regards, -Mark ________________________________________________________________________ "I know only that I know nothing, which is something, proving conclusively that I know nothing at all." -Socrates Mark Mieczkowski B1-B Squire Hall, SUNY AB 3435 Main ST., Buffalo, NY 14214-3008 Ph: 716-829-3561 Fx: 716-829-3006 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!132.205.106.4!newsflash.concordia.ca!news.mcgill.ca!news.si.usherb.ca!DMI.USherb.CA!cumin.telecom.uqam.ca!admin_news@uqam.ca From: interbbs@usa.net (Inter-BBS) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k Subject: FreeNetAccessWorldwide Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:16:02 GMT Organization: Inter-BBS Lines: 8 Message-ID: <33327b4a.2777996@news.uqam.ca> Reply-To: interbbs@usa.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.208.49.109 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28014 comp.sys.next.marketplace:16863 comp.sys.next.misc:25409 comp.sys.next.programmer:23752 comp.sys.next.software:28768 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26023 comp.sys.northstar:536 comp.sys.nsc.32k:171 http://home.ican.net/~704242/interbbs.html Free adult internet connection worldwide. We offer a free internet access from more then 2000 cities all around the world, it's absolutely free, all what we ask is to visit and visit again our sponsor pages, it's how we are paid, so visit our home page and enjoy... http://home.ican.net/~704242/interbbs.html #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: Arno Bosse Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL X-Nntp-Posting-Host: aitrl3.uchicago.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Reply-To: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zlewanto@stan.donet.com Organization: Univ. of Chicago References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:58:21 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Lines: 13 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28015 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26024 comp.sys.next.software:28769 Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: > > Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: > 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus > > Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com > > Thanks, Stan Yes, I'm in the same boat. No driver is available. Maybe someone at NeXT will re-assure us that the driver is on the "planned" list... Arno #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!ncar!newshost.lanl.gov!mr2.mst6.lanl.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!not-for-mail From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: 25 Mar 1997 04:54:50 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5h7lqq$jfe$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5gsqnp$boo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <33322DCC.A93@mysolution.com> Reply-To: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: me@mysolution.com In <33322DCC.A93@mysolution.com> Tommy Hwang wrote: > Another thing... Don't get any of the black NeXT systems if you intend > to use higher speed modem connection(s)... The serial port on the NeXT > cube and stations can only handle up to 38,400bps... Even my laptop tops > that. If the turbo-station or cube systems have serial ports that can > handle X2 speed over voice ISDN channels (56K upload & 56K download in > "host mode" confirmed on my laptop), Please tell me immediately - so I > can buy one NOW. I've benchmarked file transfers over a 33.6 K bps SupraExpress modem on a NeXTstation Turbo Color machine. It connects at 56,800 bps and I get sustained transfer speeds of ~26K bps. I am using the NeXT specific modem cable (necessary for hardware flow control) that I got from Deepspace Tech. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!acsu.buffalo.edu!mieczko1 From: mieczko1@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mark C Mieczkowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: 24 Mar 1997 20:50:01 GMT Organization: UB Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu NNTP-Posting-User: mieczko1 Hi, I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help on this. I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola, but I am not sure. Thanks for the help, -Mark #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:31:41 GMT References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 30 In article , wrote: >In article <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com>, Creature@night.com >(Creature) wrote: > >> >Hi, >> >I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help >on this. >> >I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 >> >What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. >> >I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for >> >Motorola, but I am not sure. >> > >You have to wait for Rhapsody. >> >> I am kind of new myself, but I have heard that you do NOT want to run >> OS on moto. >> >NeXTstep runs really well on Motorola hardware. > True. However, it depends on what the original poster meant by "turn one of my macs into a next cube". Neither NeXTSTEP nor OPENSTEP/Mach will run on any Mac hardware, unless you some stratospheric studly hacker. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k Subject: cmsg cancel <33327b4a.2777996@news.uqam.ca> Date: 25 Mar 1997 05:21:19 GMT Control: cancel <33327b4a.2777996@news.uqam.ca> Message-ID: Sender: interbbs@usa.net (Inter-BBS) X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!ncar!uchinews!news From: Arno Bosse Subject: ELSA Gloria-L (NS drivers?) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: aitrl3.uchicago.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3333FCC7.678B@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Reply-To: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Univ. of Chicago Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:37:45 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Lines: 11 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28019 de.comp.sys.next:13611 Hi, I remember reading in an online review (New Media?) that ELSA provided NS drivers for the Gloria line. However, I didn't find anything on their ftp site. Do the drivers exist? thanks, Arno #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!news2.euro.net!server1.adam.ixe.net!wiwo.nl!awt-nl!news From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade X-Nntp-Posting-Host: next.awt.nl Message-ID: Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:30:07 GMT Lines: 52 Rich Markle wrote: >How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are >there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have >to do to make it work. Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a It is easy: just open the case and install the card. >standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, >then the monitor later. The ND card only drives a colour monitor. You still need to attach something to the main board to do sound, keyboard and mouse. For that, there are two solutions: 1. Sound box. This is more or less a Megapixel without screen. It connects just like the megapixel, and the keyboard is connected to it. The mouse is of course connected to the keyboard. 2. Megapixel. You can use a megapixel instead of a sound box. That will give you a dual-headed setup. Note, if you are brave and knowledgeable about monitor electronics., you could make a power switch for the glow spiral of the megapixel. That means you can turn it off while the computer stays on. Conclusion: the ND board is no use without a colour monitor. It will*not* drive a standard megapixel. That might look likie a disadvantage, but it isn't. The megapixel is proprietary, a colour monitor can be bought on every streetcorner. So, with a ND you become less dependent on the part of the hardware that wears out first (the megapixel). Speedwise, the ND is great if equipped with enough memory. Also, don't forget that if you have a ND running at 32bit/pixel, your WindowServer process will also use a lot more memory (especially in dual-headed setup). I run a ND system (33MHz) with 64MB on the MB and 48MB on the ND. That is acceptable in speed. The special ND stuff (like NeXTV) is especially great. You have a 14" television on your desk with a picture that is acceptable to look at (even from close range). I use a VHS videorecorder as tuner. -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt." #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: '030 MB - HELP! Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:12:33 GMT References: <333239FA.5229@flash.net> <33334555.53BF@flash.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 41 In article <33334555.53BF@flash.net>, Chuck Knight wrote: > >Exactly. I didn't see a "PC standard" power connector, so I assume it's >incorporated into one of the other connectors...either the system bus >connector at the "end" of the board, or the 19-pin connector on the >back. > Power arrives over the NeXTbus--the big black connector on the "inside" edge. >After I get basic power, the other hardware should be easy to >connect...it >would just be standard SCSI stuff. > The keyboard uses some sort of serial protocol as I recall, and it encodes the mouse data long with it. I think there may be some further processing by the curcuit board in the monitor (which also contains the DAC and ADC for audio, BTW.) >I was thinking about using a simple serial terminal at first...it *is* >a UNIX box, after all...at least until I can find a monitor, keyboard, >and mouse. > If the NVRAM has "Serial port A as alternate console" set then you can boot using a serial terminal. If not, then you can't. >Logitech mouse? You're kidding! Those are common as dirt, whereas >anything >NEXT seems to be rare. (They never seemed to catch on in Dallas) > Logitech *BUS* mouse, remember. Not the serial mouse. The mouse plugs into the keyboard. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703211544.KAA15554@kira.peak.org> X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 10:44:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Big Hard Drives Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Pgp-Key: Email me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__" Lines: 34 This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: "Ted J. Myers" Original Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:38:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: > Sorry about that Tim. Yes I'm unfamiliar with the newsgroups where > I posted my question. No problem, at least it wasn't a SPAM/UCE! Were I you I might have gone for "comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc" or "comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage" (assuming you're using a PC). I don't know if that's the right group either, just grabbed them from a listing of all the newsgroups. TjL --__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703210047.TAA01761@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 551e81e6d08789e8fb6f7b006b7398d5 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 19:47:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Big Hard Drives Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 551e81e6d08789e8fb6f7b006b7398d5 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Pgp-Key: Email me Lines: 23 Responding To: "Ted J. Myers" Original Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:41:58 GMT Message-ID: 551e81e6d08789e8fb6f7b006b7398d5 - > Does anyone know just what the factors are in determining whether > or not a computer can handle one of the larger hard drives that are > available? NeXTStep and OpenStep can handle drives less than 2.0gig disks or partitions. I believe that is all you need to worry about. TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org> X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 57c8f87b22658b21741a5089521209c0 - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 00:41:28 -0500 Subject: Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 57c8f87b22658b21741a5089521209c0 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Pgp-Key: Email me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__" Lines: 59 This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Original Date: 19 Mar 1997 21:15:58 -0800 Message-ID: 57c8f87b22658b21741a5089521209c0 - > When the machine boots I see the following : > > SONY CD-ROM CPU-541 as sd1 at sco target 4 lun 0 > sd1 : UNIT ATTENTION > Waiting for drive to come ready This is normal IF you see a series of "....." after it. If there's no disk in the drive you'll see about this many ....................... and if there is a disk in the drive you should see about this many ...... and then the disk label info (perhaps even just "Disk is write protected" If you don't see those dots, something is wrong TjL ps -- it would be really nice if Rhapsody was smart enough not to wait so long for a drive without a disk in it. The floppy drives are recognized immediately disk or no, but my CD-ROM and SyQuest drive both wait for about 10 seconds waiting for a disk when none is available. -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703211505.KAA13856@kira.peak.org> X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 10:05:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Big Hard Drives Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Pgp-Key: Email me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__" Lines: 36 This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: "Ted J. Myers" Original Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:53:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: > I'm not familiar with NeXTStep and OpenStep. What kind of programs > are they, operating systems maybe? Well, since you were sending this message to "comp.sys.NEXT.hardware" I assumed you were talking about NeXT computers and/or the NeXTSTEP/OpenStep operating system. Then again I was assuming you knew what group you were posting to. Perhaps you thought it was just a hardware group for PCs? TjL --__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703222217.RAA05618@kira.peak.org> X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: 5c5c8851ad254c4aa169662455ab72aa - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 17:17:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: 5c5c8851ad254c4aa169662455ab72aa - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Pgp-Key: Email me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__" Lines: 68 This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Original Date: 21 Mar 1997 23:37:49 GMT Message-ID: 5c5c8851ad254c4aa169662455ab72aa - > Some other questions that spring to mind are: > What kind of RAM is fitted? 72-pin, 70ns > Is it soldered in or socketed? socketed, I believe > Can I still get system software updates for this machine? yes(*) > Is Openstep really as nice as it looks in the Mags? yes Actually, I haven't seen OpenStep, but have seen NeXTStep pretty much every day for the past 5 years and love it dearly. In answer to your question: I would buy this machine and stuff it full of RAM (you should be able to get 128meg in there). I'm getting an Intel personally, but because I'm doing to have to dual-boot eventually. OpenStep will run on this machine, and you can buy OpenStep for Mach 4.1 for it (actually, if you are going to get the dev tools, I'd wait for 4.2 due this summer). Contact when you are ready to upgrade. This machine will be slow for compiles, but for regular use should be fine. Feel free to drop me a line if I can answer any questions TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!n1tor.istar!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <608858488427@digifix.com> Date: 23 Mar 1997 05:00:18 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 347 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <3027859093225@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:61698 comp.sys.next.announce:4110 comp.sys.next.hardware:28027 comp.sys.next.software:28776 comp.sys.next.misc:25411 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26032 comp.sys.next.bugs:4231 comp.sys.next.programmer:23770 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!not-for-mail From: "Stacy D. Coil" Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Maxtor XT-8380S woes Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 00:13:46 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3334BC0A.179F@osu.edu> Reply-To: coil.1@osu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ts27-16.homenet.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) CC: coil.1@osu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:54437 comp.sys.next.hardware:28028 comp.periphs.scsi:74123 I have aquired a Maxtor XT-8380S hard drive that was origionally used with a NeXT workstation. I would like to use it with a pc; however, the hard drive only says that it is a 170 meg hard drive when hooked up to any controller other than the NeXT (it is a 340 MB drive). Does anyone have any idea what I can do? I cannot figure out to tell the drive that it is a 340 MB drive. --Stacy coil.1@osu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!uhog.mit.edu!newsfeed.gte.net!news-in.iadfw.net!gryphon.phoenix.net!phillips From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PowerPC OpenStep? Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:41:45 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5h8o79$9pm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5h79jo$pdp@news.next.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha1.phoenix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Mark Bessey (MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM) wrote (in a different thread): : Mark C Mieczkowski writes : > Hi, : > I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help : > on this. I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an : > '040 and a PPC601 : > What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get : > it. I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x : > for Motorola, but I am not sure. : OPENSTEP doesn't run on Macs yet. I understand that a port for the PPC was done - so there is no rumor/hint of releasing that? And NeXT/Open Step never ran on a 68K Mac? : You'll want to wait for Rhapsody, : Apple's next-generation Operating System (coming later this year), which : will run on Power Macintoshes and will be OpenStep compliant. : -- : Mark Bessey : Apple Computer, Inc. : -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- BTW if anyone wanted to privately drop a few hints as to how to get NeXT/Open Step to run on a 68k Mac, some of us would be interested. And no names would EVER have to be used. It must have something to do with the ROMs is my guess. -- Charles D Phillips Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!not-for-mail From: paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:58:35 GMT Organization: Internet MCI Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> Reply-To: paul@pth.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.44.57.158 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Hi, I was wondering if anyone has tried putting both a Matrox Millenium and #9 I128 Series 2 in the same box running NEXTSTEP 3.3? I know both of these cards have multi screen support, but will they work together? Thanx, -- Paul Haddad #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!swidir.switch.ch!CERN.ch!news From: wiedner@nxcb01.cern.ch (Wiedner) Subject: Color Monitor for NeXTstation found X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nxcb01.cern.ch Message-ID: Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:42:06 GMT Lines: 11 Hi everybody, 2 weeks ago I posted a mail asking for help in choosing a color monitor for my (black) Color NeXTstation. Several people asked me to inform them if I found out something. Unfortunately their mails got lost, so I have to contac them this way. It seems that a SONY 17SE2T5 monitor works nice with my NeXTstation. To connect it I use the PigTail adapter, which basically conversts the 13W3 connector of the NeXT to RGB (BNC). So, I'm in business again. Cheers...Ulrich #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Duane Cutlip Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New NeXT owner - help? Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 02:01:15 -0500 Organization: ADC Logistics Group Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3334D53B.4985@mindspring.com> Reply-To: adcgroup@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip9.raleigh2.nc.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 23 Mar 1997 07:00:11 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) I have just acquired a NeXT color slab with 17" mega pixel monitor, 2.88 FD, and 16 MB. I also got a cube w/8MB. I haven't done anything with the cube because the monitor connection is different. From the parts dates, I guess the slab was manufactured around 1992. My immediate problem is that the slab won't boot up. It hangs on "checking system files". It was probably booted from a network when it was in use. Not having *any* experience with NeXT, I have several questions. 1. How can I get it booted up? Is there a floppy to boot off of (I got no software with it) 2. Will it run recent releases of OpenStep? 3. What are the applications I can use this type of computer for? My experience is PC-based. 4. Would I be able to run software from any of the other platforms? Thanks, Duane mailto:adcgroup@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news From: herrmann@math.tamu.edu (joe herrmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: partition of hard disk for NEXTSTEP 3.3 and Windows 95 Date: 25 Mar 1997 16:32:52 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5h8unk$6gp@news.tamu.edu> Reply-To: herrmann@math.tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siam.math.tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Mar 1997 16:32:52 GMT I have a Compaq Presario 4770 (200 Mhz MMX Intel CPU, 32M of Ram, 3.8G Hard drive, 16X cd rom drive, 33.6 kps modem, and 3 1/2 floppy drive) I would like to partition the hard drive so I can run both Windows 95 and NEXTSTEP 3.3. Most of the software (including Windows 95) I have came preloaded on the hard disk and I have no other copies of this software. 1. Should I borrow a zip drive to back the hard drive up before doing the partition? Could I put it on floppies? 2. How do I do the partition? 3. Does NEXTSTEP 3.3 run well on a Presario? I saw that Compaq's Deskpro is a supported machine from NextAnswers but nothing about the Presario. Can I find drivers to drive the modem, floppy drive, and CD rom from NEXTSTEP? 4. Is there anything I should beware of if I try to do this? Thanks. Joseph M. Herrmann Department of Mathematics, Texas A&M University College Station, Texas 77843-3368 (409) 845-1474 herrmann@math.tamu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!newsserver.cilea.it!sirio.cineca.it!gopher From: giammarc@cs.unibo.it (Mario Giammarco) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ET6000 driver, I will do it Date: 25 Mar 1997 18:54:55 GMT Organization: Cineca Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5h971v$2td@sirio.cineca.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: a7gw4.ra.nettuno.it I have an ET6000. Because Next does not provide a ET6000 driver I would like to do it my own. The ET6000 has a BIOS VESA 2.0 compliant; so it can enable high resolutions and linear mode. I have seen that the s3 Virge driver uses the virge bios to change resolutions, but I do not know how use the bios in a display driver for nextstep. Can I see the source of VIRGE display driver? If not, somebody knows how to access BIOS? Is anybody making a display driver so I can cooperate with him? HELP! Please reply me to giammarc@cs.unibo.it because I cannot read frequently news. Thank You in advance for your replies! -- Mario Giammarco | Tel/FAX +39-545-22965 Via Calamandrei,5 | giammarc@cs.unibo.it 48022 Lugo (RA) -- ITALY | rac0043@racine.ravenna.it #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:59:36 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 33 Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: References: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) paul@pth.com,UseNet writes: >I was wondering if anyone has tried putting both a Matrox Millenium and #9 >I128 Series 2 in the same box running NEXTSTEP 3.3? >I know both of these cards have multi screen support, but will they work >together? Bizarre. I just sat down to post a message about these very same cards. I'm afraid I can't answer the above, but I can extend the question. What is the general concensus regarding the differences? We currently run a few OS 4.1 boxes with the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 (using the beta 3.3 driver from the next ftp site--works just fine). We're about to place an order for 15 new machines but we are told the #9 is backordered 4 to 6 weeks. Dell suggested the Matrox Millenium instead. We're a little reluctant to place a "bulk" order for cards we have no experience with. Any comments? -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!judith.state.net!news.is.com!usenet From: indy@pachacuti.is.com (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 25 Mar 1997 19:20:31 GMT Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h98hv$48l@medusa.is.com> References: Reply-To: indy@is.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pachacuti.is.com In article G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes: > 1. Sound box. This is more or less a Megapixel without screen. It connects > just like the megapixel, and the keyboard is connected to it. The mouse is of > course connected to the keyboard. *gnorf* does this mean I can run a Cube headless. if using a SoundBox? I never thought of that... > Speedwise, the ND is great if equipped with enough memory. Also, don't forget > that if you have a ND running at 32bit/pixel, your WindowServer process will > also use a lot more memory (especially in dual-headed setup). I run a ND > system (33MHz) with 64MB on the MB and 48MB on the ND. That is acceptable in > speed. > > The special ND stuff (like NeXTV) is especially great. You have a 14" > television on your desk with a picture that is acceptable to look at (even > from close range). I use a VHS videorecorder as tuner. I second Gerben's remarks; my system is similar to his, wtih 80 MB on the motherboard. I tend to leave a lot of windows open, so I'm looking to boost the ND's memory soon. Later we'll add an SMP PowerMac for Rhapsodic networking :-) -- Steve Weintz * indy@is.com * Graphic Designer, Integrity Solutions, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ When confronted with vastly intelligent, aggressive politics, do something totally irrational and let the enemy think himself to death. -- P. Chanur #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PowerPC OpenStep? References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5h79jo$pdp@news.next.com> <5h8o79$9pm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> From: Darren Reely X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) NNTP-Posting-Host: yvr-ppp-53.cyberstore.ca Message-ID: <33382d3c.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 25 Mar 97 19:53:32 GMT Lines: 19 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!uniserve!van-bc!n1van.istar!scipio.cyberstore.ca!yvr-ppp-53.cyberstore.ca phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) wrote: >BTW if anyone wanted to privately drop a few hints as to how to get >NeXT/Open Step to run on a 68k Mac, some of us would be interested. And no >names would EVER have to be used. It must have something to do with the >ROMs is my guess. The roms would just be a start. There are like MAJOR hardware differences to get in your way. You would need the source code and at least in depth knowledge of the Mac you want to port to. Just wait for Rhapsody for PPC Macs. Don't expect Rhapsody for 68k Macs. Although it is possible to do it, Apple has no announced plans for that older platforum. My only wish is that they get the capabilities of the port right. I'd hate to move backwards. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703230713.CAA01188@kira.peak.org> X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 02:13:08 -0500 Subject: Anyone used Seagate 43400N (3gig/SCSI) ? Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Pgp-Key: Email me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__" Lines: 35 This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I saw a Seagate 3.0 GIG drive for $299 The model number is "Seagate 43400N" Anyone know anything about this drive? TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__-- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: PowerPC OpenStep? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:30:43 GMT References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5h79jo$pdp@news.next.com> <5h8o79$9pm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 35 In article <5h8o79$9pm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net>, Charles Phillips wrote: > >I understand that a port for the PPC was done - so there is no rumor/hint >of releasing that? > It wouldn't do much good. It would be version 3.something, and who knows what kind of PPC hardware it ran on. Maybe something PReP-ish, maybe something totally different. Who knows. >And NeXT/Open Step never ran on a 68K Mac? > No. >BTW if anyone wanted to privately drop a few hints as to how to get >NeXT/Open Step to run on a 68k Mac, some of us would be interested. And no >names would EVER have to be used. It must have something to do with the >ROMs is my guess. > This honestly isn't meant as a flame, but it's a lot more than the ROMs. You're grossly underestimating the work it takes to port an OS to another machine of even the same CPU architecture. Even if you have source it's not a super-quick job. Without the source it's very difficult. It's been done a few times; I can think of various ports of the MacOS to hardware such as NeXT black hardware, the Amiga, and PReP machines. But the MacOS is a much simpler beast from a core OS point of view than NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP/Mach is. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!azure.xara.net!xara.net!peernews.ftech.net!telehouse1.frontier-networks.co.uk!basilisk.pdc.nhs.gov.uk!yama.mcc.ac.uk!bignews.shef.ac.uk!usenet From: mmalcolm crawford Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 23 Mar 1997 15:53:03 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5h3jkv$evo@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: aa6378859a55f060074d7f6aa0e10f7e - <199703180318.WAA08371@kira.peak.org> Reply-To: mmalcolm crawford NNTP-Posting-Host: daneel.dcs.shef.ac.uk In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00083 On 03/21/97, Robert Nicholson wrote: > There's nothing basic about the Kinesis keyboard. You should perhaps > ring up a vendor and use their 30 day trial period. Warning. You > have to make a large commitment to use the keyboard though. I almost > gave up and don't regret sticking at it. Honestly though. I don't > know what you do but for my health $200 or the difference in price > b/w a MS Natural or some other keyboard isn't significant. Depends > on whether you're a poor student I guess :-) > > The kinesis will _force_ you to type better you really have no > other choice. > > Like I said. It's an all or nothing thing with the kinesis since > initially you won't feel comfortable on it. > With encouragement from Scott Anguish I also bought a Kinesis (back when they were $400 or so) and don't regret it at all. Highly recommended. Best wishes, mmalc. -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.ironhorse.com!nntp.portal.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!azure.xara.net!xara.net!easynet-uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!easynet-uko!news.ukonline.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Lee Bennett" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Black networking 12 sys!!! Date: 25 Mar 1997 22:17:55 GMT Organization: L&B Software Message-ID: <01bb1a98$f8c17600$857206c2@carmen> NNTP-Posting-Host: lon8-5.ukonline.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Lines: 8 Hi, I have just got 12 system`s and need to network them. Can some tell me the type of cables I need. Many Thanks lee@hyper-zone.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!in2p3.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!news.univ-aix.fr!eerie.fr!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HomeNet Date: 25 Mar 1997 23:03:22 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 23 Sender: -no- @pm247-06.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5h9ljq$rvi$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) NNTP-Posting-Host: pm247-06.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: blazek X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Hallo all. I have just received a new NeXT machine from MTECH (thanks guys) and would like to connect it with my older NeXTstation using the ethernet adapters. What do I need to connect these two stations? Just the proper coax cable with the right connectors? Or do I need to make a loop between them. Or do I need some other hardware box to make it work? I know how to deal with the net at school, but have no idea how to create a small one at home using just my two machines. Thanks a lot for any advice. Good luck to all. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!usenet From: me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: RE: dual head display Date: 23 Mar 1997 07:07:32 GMT Organization: MUC.DE e.v -- private Internet access Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5h2krk$gri@guide.muc.de> References: <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: thyls.muc.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) wrote: >In article <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> ktchan writes: >> Does any one have any chance test a Matrox dual head display? >> >> Only the Elsa have the power, the NeXTanswer mentioned the Matrox is >> capable to display two monitor. >> >> Any one tried to do it? >> >We have two dual headed systems running using the Matrox. No problem. >-- >====================================================================== >Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH >Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 >Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg >No big mails, Please! Germany Could someone (Hans?) please exlpain this to me!? I never heard that the Matrox (Millenium, I guess) has the capability of being used in dual head systems. Neither the matrox handbook nor the respective nextanswers entry give any hints. Did I miss some information? Thanks for helping me out of my confusion. Salut, Thyl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!usenet From: me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: ELSA Gloria-L (NS drivers?) Date: 23 Mar 1997 07:13:36 GMT Organization: MUC.DE e.v -- private Internet access Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5h2l70$gri@guide.muc.de> References: <3333FCC7.678B@midway.uchicago.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: thyls.muc.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28044 de.comp.sys.next:13625 Arno Bosse wrote: >Hi, > >I remember reading in an online review (New Media?) that ELSA provided >NS drivers for the Gloria line. However, I didn't find anything on their >ftp site. > >Do the drivers exist? > >thanks, > >Arno Well, I recently phoned ELSA about their interest to participate in a test for NX compatible graphics boards and received the information that ELSA has dropped NEXTSTEP support a bit more than a year ago. Therefore, I don't see why there should be a driver for the Gloria ( I also found nothing like it). Did you try out the Generic S3 driver and the older ELSA drivers for the Winner 2000 Pro/X? If you are not stick to the ELSA for particular reasons, I also do not see any reason for purchasing it, since none of the great 3D functions of the board would under the present imaging scheme of NEXTSTEP, be used. Salut, Thyl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.magg.net!news.bridge.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!207.0.229.10!in-news.erinet.com!news From: smiller@directionsrsch.com (Scott Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Northgate Ultra Keyboards? Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:31:21 GMT Organization: EriNet Online 513 436-1700 (Voice) Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3337eef0.57303555@100.0.0.3> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.72.141.57 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 After searching and searching for someone carrying _any_ Northgate keyboards, I finally found a distributor that had some. However they didn't have an instruction manual on how to program them, and they're different than the older style keyboards that we have instructions for. Does anyone know how to program these keyboards to swap the ctrl and alt key and caps lock key? Does anyone know how to contact anyone that used to work at Northgate that might have a clue? Thanks, Scott smiller@directionsrsch.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!lrs-news!osn.de!news.gtn.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.127.130.5!worldnet.att.net!230.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HomeNet Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:48:48 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <5h9ljq$rvi$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.51.230 > What do I need to connect these two stations? Just the proper coax cable with > the right connectors? Or do I need to make a loop between them. Or do I need > some other hardware box to make it work? > > I know how to deal with the net at school, but have no idea how to create a > small one at home using just my two machines. If you go the thin coax route all you need is a thin coax cable with a "T" on each end. Connect the "T" to each NeXT and put a resistor on each open end of the "T". That's all there is too it. If you want to network more than two computers, it gets a little more complex, but basically you just have to remember that the line from the machine to the "T" on the trunk line can't be over about 18" or so. If this doesn't make sense, I can send you a diagram of it. This was a problem I ran into with a Mac netowrk based on Coax. I now have a 10-base-T network. If you decide to go 10-base-T, you will need a hub. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!emerald.xara.net!xara.net!azure.xara.net!xara.net!news.thenet.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.65.96.4!news.planetc.com!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!in1.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!xombi!news From: recurve@resourceful.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "Incomplete disk transfer" followup Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:32:23 GMT Organization: Rosenzweig Investments Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.161.15.179 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Crazy, I popped open the hood of the slab (to see if a ribbon cable was a little loose), put the top back on and then the disk was able to be initialized fine! strange. --- SW Son of Ginger and Harry, Aaron Rosenzweig SW http://www.wam.umd.edu/~recurve/ SW... recurve@resourceful.com SWN? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: 26 Mar 1997 05:04:25 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 244 Message-ID: <5haaop$b8n@news3.digex.net> References: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) wrote: > What is the general concensus regarding the differences? We > currently run a few OS 4.1 boxes with the #9 Imagine 128 Series > 2 (using the beta 3.3 driver from the next ftp site--works just > fine). We're about to place an order for 15 new machines but we > are told the #9 is backordered 4 to 6 weeks. Dell suggested the > Matrox Millenium instead. We're a little reluctant to place a > "bulk" order for cards we have no experience with. Here's some info/correspondence I've had about the new ATI 3D RageII cards... They look promising: If you do decide to replace it... Check out this, next just released a beta driver for OPENSTEP 4.1. You can get an 8Mb version for 229 (I checked on price watch) and a TV tuner for it for about 100bux more! All that and 3d support. I don't know about multiple monitors though. Here's the info file on the driver: ____________________________________________________________________ ATI Rage PCI-Bus Display Adapter < < Display Devices This PCI bus device driver automatically detects the target adapter. Supported Hardware: ATI Rage and Rage II based display adapters with 4MB memory This graphics driver is designed to support on-board as well as PCI-Bus display controller subsystems which use the Rage and Rage II Graphics controller chipsets. This driver supports the following 4MB display modes. 8-bit Color 16-bit Color 32-bit color 640x480 640x480 640x480 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz 800x600 800x600 800x600 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz 1024x768 1024x768 1024x768 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 1152x864 1152x864 1152x864 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 1280x1024 1280x1024 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 1600x1200 1600x1200 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz Note: When using any of the 32-bit color modes, the console window (which appears after you type "console" at the Login Window) may be discolored, usually with the text and borders appearing a light red color. This will not affect normal operation (i.e., when running under the Window Server). Note: If the display appears dim in one of the 32-bit color modes, or if the Brightness slider in the Preferences app does not work in the 16-bit and 32-bit color modes, then the host adapter does not support gamma correction. This behavior is due to the absence of a feature on the adapter itself; no software work around is available. Supported Displays: NeXT designs and tests its display adapter device drivers using very high frequency displays that can support display modes with very high resolutions and non-interlaced refresh rates, such as the NEC 5FG, NEC 6FG, and Nokia Multigraph 445X. Read the owner's guide that comes with your display to ensure it can support the display mode you set in Configure. Warning: Not all Rage or Rage II display adapters support all of the display modes listed above. The driver does not always detect when a mode has been selected which the display adapter does not support. Selecting a display mode which the display adapter does not support may result in an unreadable display at boot time. If this occurs, reboot the machine specifying "config=Default" at the boot prompt. The machine should reboot in Default VGA mode, allowing you to run Configure.app and select a different display mode. Warning: Some vendors claim that you can use their display adapters at display modes with resolutions and refresh rates that exceed what their RAMDACs can support. You can permanently damage your display adapter and computer by doing this. Read the owner's guide that comes with your display adapter or contact its manufacturer to ensure that your adapter's RAMDAC can support the display mode you set in Configure. Warning: If you plan to change display adapters, be sure to use the Configure application to change the display driver to Default VGA Adapter before you remove the old display adapter (see NeXTanswer 1824 for details on changing display adapters). < See also * "Add a Device" in Configure's on-line help. * See NeXTanswer 1824 for general information on installing and configuring device drivers. ____________________________________________________ Here's the Nextanswer overview on it: _____________________________________________________ OPENSTEP for Mach Intel Processors Release 4.x Display Driver Overview Driver: ATI Rage Driver Overview: NeXTanswer # Last Update: March 14, 1997 Availability Information A version of this driver is on the CDROM Newer Released Driver in NeXTanswers*: No, Version 0.00, as NeXTanswer # Newer Beta Driver in NeXTanswers*: Yes, Version 4.00, as NeXTanswer #2200 Driver Name / Installer .pkg: ATIRageDisplayDriver Driver Type: Display Driver Scope: Generic-Chipset Supported Components: ATI Rage, ATI Rage II, ATI Rage II+ PC Bus / Interface Supported by Driver**: Integrated, PCI General Overview notes: This new graphics driver is designed to support a variety of graphics adapters using the ATI Rage and Rage II graphics controller. This driver supports a variety of configurations including high-resolution and high-color (32bit) modes and several frame buffer configurations. Due to the wide range of possible combinations, only a few specific adapters will be tested by NeXT. Although this driver may work with most 88800 GX/CX based adapters, NeXT will only support the specific adapters tested by NeXT. Supported Products / Add-on Adapters: ATI All-In-Wonder ATI 3D Pro Turbo ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV ATI 3D Xpression+ ATI 3D Xpression+ PC2TV Supported Products / Systems (ie integrated into PC System): Special Features of Driver / Driver Notes: This device driver provides information in the Configure application's help panel. Choose Info>Help from the Configure menu and scroll down to find this device driver's help topic. Display Driver Details Supported Connectors: 15-pin High Density (VGA) Access Mode: Linear Framebuffer Adapter Memory: 2MB DRAM, 2MB VRAM, 4MB DRAM, 4MB VRAM Display Modes (Number in () after resolution indicates frame buffer size required) 32 Bit Color Modes**: 1152x900 (4MB+), 640x480 (4MB+), 800x600 (4MB+) 16 Bit Color Modes**: 1024x768 (2MB+), 1152x896 (2MB+), 1280x1024 (4MB+), 640x480 (1MB+), 800x600 (1MB+) 8 Bit Color / Greyscale Modes**: 1024x768 (1MB+), 1152x896 (1MB+), 1280x1024 (2MB+), 1600x1200 (2MB+), 800x600 (1MB+) Known Problems Driver Version Notes Future Planning Future / Update Planning: Reason for New Driver / Update: New Driver New Driver / Update Timeframe: New Driver / Update Description: Note: Information contained in the "Future Planning" section of this document does not constitute a commitment on the part of NeXT to complete the planned development work. * - Any NeXTanswer number that is blank indicates that a driver will not be released for this version of NEXTSTEP. ** - Indicates information that is inclusive of the entire capability of this driver. Not all devices supported by this driver may include all features listed. Check any available NeXTanswers and the hardware manual for the device for additional information. Product Vendor ATI Technology 2880 Zanker Road Suite 203 San Jose, CA 95134 +1 (416) 882 2600 international phone +1 (905) 764 9404 bulletin board system +1 (416) 882 2600 faxback system WWW: „http://www.atitech.ca/ _________________________________________________________________ Here are some of the specs on the expression (it's lower than your card). <„http://www.atitech.ca/graphics/3dxpre/3dxpre.html Here's the pro...It should do everyting the expression does, but faster and better resolutions... <„http://www.atitech.ca/graphics/3dpt/3dpt.html Heck, I'm thinking of upgrading to it! If you want the TV tuner features, it's about 100bux more for the daughter card. It looks neet, and if you like it, ask louis to order it. (It won't work under NeXTSTEP, not now anyway...maybe ssomeone will write a driver for it in the future). Here's the page. <„http://www.atitech.ca/multi/tvtuner.html Anyway, not sure if it supports 1600X1200 at 24bit w/ the 8meg pro version under NS... But that is what I'm ordering for a friend (only a 229 for the 8mb version--do a search on price watch at www.pricewatch.com). Also, I don't know if it does multiple monitors like the #9... It might be too early to say... And the TV tuner likely won't work under NS...but still, looks like a good value. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Those nasty MIME headers in some of my recent posts Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:28:30 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 43 Message-ID: <0nBN9iG00iWX41Z=kP@andrew.cmu.edu> References: 5c5c8851ad254c4aa169662455ab72aa - <199703222217.RAA05618@kira.peak.org> <199703231957.OAA11840@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <199703231957.OAA11840@kira.peak.org> Excerpts from mail: 23-Mar-97 Those nasty MIME headers in.. by "Timothy J. Luoma"@peak. > Those headers are not coming from me, but from the mail2news > gateway @antigone.com. > > I have sent the manager of the NeXT lists a message asking why this > is happening, but have not yet heard anything back. Oh. Well, I can't say I'm surprised by Antigone being broken. They bounce anything I send to them because the news/mailer software used with my cs4w+@andrew account (EZMail) uses a date format of: "Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:05:35 -0500 (EST)" ...instead of: "Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:05:35 -0500" While the latter format is correct, their software should (a) have been designed to follow the maxim of "be liberal in what formats you accept and be conservative in what you generate", (b) it should accept what is a completely valid date header plus additional characters at the end enclosed in what's used to delimit a comment in other headers, and (c) they should replace a date header which they decided is invalid by _replacing_ it with a date header their software generates itself instead of bouncing. @Begin(SARCASM) { But I've already argued this before and they didn't get it. I wonder if they won't see any problems with generating MIME headers to Usenet news, either. After all, MIME is a standard too-- and everyone wants Usenet articles to be in MIME format with HTML tags as well, right...? } @End(SARCASM) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.86.32.9!skypoint.com!not-for-mail From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 23 Mar 1997 21:37:22 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5h47qi$bm3$1@shadow.skypoint.net> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial071.skypoint.net In-Reply-To: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20011-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28050 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26046 comp.sys.next.software:28789 On 03/22/97, Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: >Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: > 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus > >Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com > >Thanks, Stan > I have been in touch with the NeXT Tech support group on this. I am an EAP. The story I am getting is that it is being writen wtih NO timeframe till beta release yet. May be if we all keep up a weekly reminder effort we will ge their attention. Send email to Mark Tacchi and Marc Driftmeyer If you hear of any drivers for this card please let me know and visa versa. Thanks -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ############################################################### #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!45.detroit-005.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 68040 cube needs disk space; any recommendations? Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:02:29 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5gimqd$bqq@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.52.45 > > I need to expand the diskspace of my 040 cube. > > The cube is running NS 3.0. > > I bought a 2gb quantum VP32170 and tried using > it to replace an ancient 40mb quantum "prodrive". > > My NeXT would not recognize the VP32170. I experimented with > various scsi address settings and scsi bus termination methods. > > Do any of you have a good experience with any 3.5" drives? > I installed a Quantum fireball in my cube a couple of days ago. It's a 1 gig drive and the cube is a Turbo. the drive was already formatted for a Macintosh, so I just hooked it to the SCSI ribbon, plugged it in, made sure it was set to an SCSI ID other than that of the original drive and started the Cube. It booted and mounted and I did a build disk on it and reformatted it for NeXTSTEp. This took quite a long time, but it worked perfectly. It was very easy. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Date: 23 Mar 1997 17:33:07 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5h3pgj$skr$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <57c8f87b22658b21741a5089521209c0> <-> <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org>, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: >ps -- it would be really nice if Rhapsody was smart enough not to >wait so long for a drive without a disk in it. The floppy drives >are recognized immediately disk or no, but my CD-ROM and SyQuest >drive both wait for about 10 seconds waiting for a disk when none is >available. If the floppy is connected to the floppy port, the above is true; however, a SCSI floppy will wait just the same. It's just a loop counter that's compiled in the kernel. I've patched my kernel to wait about 5 sec. or so. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:37:15 GMT References: <5h98hv$48l@medusa.is.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article <5h98hv$48l@medusa.is.com>, Steve Weintz wrote: >In article G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes: > >> 1. Sound box. This is more or less a Megapixel without screen. It connects >> just like the megapixel, and the keyboard is connected to it. The mouse is of >> course connected to the keyboard. > >*gnorf* does this mean I can run a Cube headless. if using a SoundBox? I never >thought of that... > Yes, you can! I've done it a few tines. I believe you can even print. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!208.197.151.4!news.esinet.net!news1.cstone.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TTYDSP with Open Step Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:37:35 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5h9k3f$91d@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Has anyone used TTYDSP with Open Step? Not necessary with a slip connection and/or an ISDN connection, but with a normal modem? Ah, cables from yyrid provides a vt100 terminal emulator and, ah, TTYDSP doesn't work with NXFAX ... Would someone like to suggest a software package to use with TTYDSP? Does anyone know if the public domain slip package will work with TTYDSP under Open Step? Or with 3.3 only? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!gaea.omnigroup.com!not-for-mail From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: 26 Mar 1997 06:28:27 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5hafmb$cji$2@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bubastis.omnigroup.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone has tried putting both a Matrox Millenium and #9 > I128 Series 2 in the same box running NEXTSTEP 3.3? > > I know both of these cards have multi screen support, but will they work > together? No. Multiple video cards must be matching cards, at least for the moment. -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au!news.apana.org.au!not-for-mail From: David Green Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice on Intel m/boards wanted Date: 23 Mar 1997 10:37:10 GMT Organization: Australian Public Access Network Association Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5h314m$r9p$1@hock.apana.org.au> Reply-To: david@legion.apana.org.au NNTP-Posting-Host: legion.apana.org.au Organisation: Sargood Manor X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-10008-01 People, I am thinking of upgrading my old 486/66 to a more modern system. Since I wish to do this for the least amount of money possible, I am planning on only swapping the motherboard and video card. I have access to very cheap Intel motherboard with Triton VX chipset. Are there any known "gotchas" with this hardware? Will be using with a Pentium 150 and 64Meg RAM. Also, has anyone used the Tseng ET6000 board? Are there drivers available, or will the ET4000 drivers work?? I look forward to your advice. -- David Green | Tel: +61 3 9827-6283 | david@legion.apana.org.au Melbourne, Australia| Fax: +61 3 9827-5876 | (NeXTMail & MIME accepted) PGP key from: pgp-public-keys@sw.oz.au ----------------------------------------------------------------------- What opinions? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!cronkite.polaristel.net!news From: "Erik D. Schminke" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hacking a NeXT Mach System Date: 23 Mar 1997 19:06:05 GMT Organization: MEANS Lines: 19 Message-ID: <01bc37bc$a9a0d380$ca3a0ace@schminke.willmar.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: willmar-202.willmar.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:4233 comp.sys.next.hardware:28057 comp.sys.next.misc:25420 comp.sys.next.software:28799 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26052 I would like some questions answered by any hackers out there willing to help. My school runs a NeXT Mach system and someone hacked into it using one of the so called "default accounts". Please take a look at what was done. The website is at http://willmar.k12.cfa.org/. I expect that this page will be take down and returned to what it was before, as soon as it is discovered, so I made a copy of the page and put it at http://www.willmar.com/~schminke/willmar/. Please check one of these pages and then explain how to this was do to me via e-mail. My address is edschminke@willmar.com Thank you, -- Erik Schminke (edschminke@willmar.com) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:57:06 GMT References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu>, wrote: > >> Quick correction. The i860 on the ND "only" does rectangular blits and >>bitmap scaling--the DPS interpretation is still done by the '040. > >I believe the ND is also given the task of doing quick rendering too. > Yes, it does at least part of it, and there's some sort of bug in the ND's qrman code, but I can't recall what it is. Sure wish the i860 could be used for prman. :-) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news6.digex.net!interval.net!arlut.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More ATI mach64 problems Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:48:56 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5gco58$nh8$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> <5gb76r$8j4$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu Cc: Chris Roehrig wrote: > >NeXT's Mach64 driver (v3.37, 4.01) overview says that only the 88800 GX/CX are >officially supported. The 264* chipsets have integrated RAMDACs on them, but >they should be supported since the driver now uses the ATI BIOS to set the >video mode and the overview claims that this should work with any RAMDAC. My Advantis motherboard uses 264CT onboard video chipset and works with NS 3.3 using the latest Mach64 driver. Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!en.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703232006.PAA12054@kira.peak.org> X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: a983b31c26142c6d42923c76b82a0c8a - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 15:06:41 -0500 Subject: Re: N0n-Intel Pentium-like chips for NS3.3/4.1? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: a983b31c26142c6d42923c76b82a0c8a - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Pgp-Key: Email me Lines: 23 *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* Responding To: sk68@cornell.edu Original Date: 22 Mar 1997 05:59:14 GMT Message-ID: a983b31c26142c6d42923c76b82a0c8a - > I just wanted to know if AMD chips work well, > if at all, with NeXTSTEP. I believe that people have gotten them to work in general, but either AMD or Cyrix could not work with OmniWeb, which would be a problem for me.... I'm sticking with the Pentium for my new Intel... TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.best.com!idiom.com!idiom.com!jcr From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: really *short* ethernet cables. Date: 26 Mar 1997 04:21:55 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) HI all, I'm about to re-cable my four NeXT machines, and I've just put them in two stacks, right next to each other. The maximum distance between any two of their ethernet ports is a foot and a half. Does anyone know if they'll balk if the ethernet cables are only four inches long (to go between two that are stacked) or a foot and a half long? I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet as touchy as SCSI? -jcr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!not-for-mail From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ATI video cards no longer supported ? Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:17:55 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5gcmb3$g8o$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: celegans.sns.cs.ubc.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28062 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26055 I just spoke to a NeXT tech support rep about problems I'm having with ATI's new Mach64 cards using the 264VT or Rage chipsets. That BIOS revision isn't supported by the current ATI driver, and he does not anticipate that any updates will be forthcoming since the driver engineers have been relocated to the Rhapsody group. Since it looks like the new ATI cards are all using those chipsets, this means that ATI is not an option any more? I'd like to hear otherwise... -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!yale!oitnews.harvard.edu!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Black networking 12 sys!!! Date: 26 Mar 1997 07:34:47 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Lines: 46 Message-ID: <5hb557$snr@papoose.quick.com> References: <01bb1a98$f8c17600$857206c2@carmen> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com In article <01bb1a98$f8c17600$857206c2@carmen>, Lee Bennett wrote: >Hi, > >I have just got 12 system`s and need to network them. Can some tell me the >type of cables I need. You have 2 choices here. The NeXT cube and slab both had two ethernet connectors for 10base-2 and 10base-T. 10base-2 is the BNC coaxial type connecter, 10base-T is for twisted pair ethernet. 10base-2 (also known as thin net) is a bus architecture. Actual cabling cost is higher (per foot), and depending on the physical layout of your computers may or may not be a good choice. The benefit of thin-net is that you will not need to buy hubs. Another benefit is that cable length limitations may enable you to span a longer distance by having one or more thin segments as part of your network. 10Base-T, twisted pair, is a star topology. You will need to purchase one or more hubs to wire up this type of network. If I were you I would choose this type of network to the desktop. As long as you use high quality cabling, you can wire up your systems now with sufficient capacity to support 100-base-T (100 megabit) ethernet speeds later when you upgrade your systems. Though 100base-T hubs are much more expensive than 10baseT hubs, you may find that it makes sense to wire for 100, buy hubs for 10 and then upgrade to 100Mbit hubs later when prices drop further. Many low end twisted pair hubs also have a single BNC connector which would enable a hybrid approach. For instance I have an inexpensive hub with 1 BNC and 8 TP connectors. Most of my network is TP but I do have a leg of thin-net hosts connected to the hub as well. Please post a description of the physical layout of your building. The most cost effective solution to your problem may very well depend on both the topology and distances involved. Network layout is really not all that complicated, but finding the optimum layout requires more information than you have given. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cdc2.cdc.net!news.stealth.net!uunet!NewsWatcher!user From: crusader@airmail.net (Mark Janszen Ringo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Really short ethernet cables Date: 26 Mar 1997 22:14:43 GMT Organization: Pier 1 Imports Lines: 25 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: gauntlet.pier1.com Don't sweat it. Ethernet is EXTREMELY forgiving. No comparison between it and SCSI. You can manufacture cables to any specification, all that you need is a crimper. Regards, Mark Ringo In article , wrote: > HI all, > > I'm about to re-cable my four NeXT machines, and I've just put them > in two stacks, right next to each other. The maximum distance between > any two of their ethernet ports is a foot and a half. > > Does anyone know if they'll balk if the ethernet cables are only four > inches long (to go between two that are stacked) or a foot and a half > long? > > I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I > switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet > as touchy as SCSI? > > -jcr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!e-14.das.mcgill.ca!user From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: EZ-Flyer as a backup on a NeXTCube? Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:41:37 -0500 Organization: McGill Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: e-14.das.mcgill.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28065 comp.sys.next.misc:25430 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26058 To replace a dead optical drive on my NeXTCube (68040, 16mb, 400mb,3.2), I'm planning to get a Syquest EZ-Flyer removable cartridge drive. I've seen comments on this newsgroup that there is no problem using a Zip Drive. I prefer the EZ-Flyer because I have a friend with an EZ-135, and we can swap disks. My question is: Does anyone know for sure (say from personal experience) that the EZ-Flyer will work with my NeXTCube? Would the formatting instructions be the same as with a Zip drive? Thanks, Bill Anderson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703161811.NAA03525@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:11:44 -0500 Subject: Re: zip drive Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - Lines: 19 Responding To: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) Original Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:26:16 GMT > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't > work (Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). did you checkout the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP" @ http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!globalip.ch!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!e-14.das.mcgill.ca!user From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:36:07 -0500 Organization: McGill Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: e-14.das.mcgill.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25431 comp.sys.next.hardware:28067 In article , bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) wrote: > The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got > the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't > remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I > have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files > (e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it > would not mount. > > Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I > wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice > on how to mount the OD? > > Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to > the crash. > > Thanks, > > Bill Anderson The optical drive has been cleaned and checked out by an expert, but still does not mount. So it looks as if it is dead. I would like to thank everyone for their responses. Also, I have a new question: To replace the optical drive, I'm planning to get a Syquest EZ-Flyer removable cartridge drive. I've seen comments on this newsgroup that there is no problem using a Zip Drive. I prefer the EZ-Flyer because I have a friend with an EZ-135, and we can swap disks. My question is: Does anyone know for sure (say from personal experience) that the EZ-Flyer will work with my NeXTCube? Thanks, Bill Anderson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.66.12.35!news-in.iadfw.net!news.sesqui.net!news.blkbox.COM!news From: jason@brubeck.bifrostworks.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ELSA Gloria-L (NS drivers?) Date: 27 Mar 1997 03:09:35 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5hcodf$t4t@news.blkbox.com> References: <5h2l70$gri@guide.muc.de> Reply-To: jason@bifrostworks.com NNTP-Posting-Host: brubeck.bifrostworks.com Arno Bosse wrote: +>Hi, +> +>I remember reading in an online review (New Media?) that ELSA provided +>NS drivers for the Gloria line. However, I didn't find anything on their +>ftp site. +> +>Do the drivers exist? Elsa does not have NS drivers for the Gloria boards. In article <5h2l70$gri@guide.muc.de> me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) writes: +I recently phoned ELSA... and received the information that ELSA has +dropped NEXTSTEP support a bit more than a year ago. Elsa has added people recently, and the new folks there (at least in the USA) don't seem to know what's there and what's not. :-( At least for now, the Winner 2000 Pro/X is available and runs fine single- or multi-screen on 3.3 and 4.x. Jason -- jason@bifrostworks.com (NeXTMail encouraged!) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!iag.net!not-for-mail From: aiz@iag.net (Guru) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cheap Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 02:34:45 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group, Orlando, Florida Lines: 6 Message-ID: <333b2e0c.8231332@news.iag.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn113.orl.iag.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 For good stuff, go to this web site: http://www.computechusa.com I've been happy with them so far. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.191.213.61!ott.istar!istar.net!news.the-wire.com!not-for-mail From: ptwareck@the-wire.com (Piotr Twarecki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Toray PD on Black? Date: 28 Mar 1997 02:56:37 GMT Organization: -the-Wire- in Toronto, Canada Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5hfc15$865$1@news.the-wire.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: opus.the-wire.com ReplyTo: ptwareck@the-wire.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Has anyone tried this drive (or the Panasonic equivalent) on Black hardware? I'm especially interested in finding out whether both the CD and the Optical modes of operation work. BTW: my optical is just beginning to give up it's ghost, and this seems like an excellent alternative. Thank you! -- Piotr Twarecki (NeXTMail and MIME welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FAQ on 1024-byte/sec Formatting ? Date: 28 Mar 1997 03:45:05 GMT Organization: Petroleum and Geosystem Engineering, U of Texas at Austin, Austin TX Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu I have a SCSI disk from a PC that I want to install on a slab, and I want to make it with 1024 byte/sector formatted. Where is the FAQ to do that (I've looked on both peak and leo site but couldn't find the specific information). Do I need to create an entry in the /etc/disktab before doing sdform, then BuildDisk ? Help, Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: "Jim Powers" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OPENSTEP support SMP??? Date: 28 Mar 1997 04:25:03 GMT Organization: None Lines: 3 Message-ID: <01bc3b2f$a53e8190$d87e0e26@godsearth> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip216.ridgewood.nj.pub-ip.psi.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Does OPENSTEP support SMP under Intel? If so what chipsets are supported? Jim Powers #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newsrelay.netins.net!news.netins.net!darkon From: darkon@nospam-netins.net (Tehrasha Darkon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Identify Empty Socket on MB Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:35:58 -0600 Organization: Darkon Industries Lines: 57 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: desm-01-50.dialup.netins.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.1 Anyone know what this mysterious empty socket on my 030 Cube motherboard is? Was it ever used for anything? NuBUS socket ------------------ -||||||||||||||||||----------------------------------- | [ ] | | ooooooooooo --------- [ ] | | ooooooooooo | | [ ] | | oo oo | CPU | [ ] | | oo ??? oo | 68030 | [ RAM Sockets ] | | oo oo | | [ ] | | ooooooooooo --------- [ ] | | ooooooooooo [ ] | | [ ] | | [ ] | | [ ] | | [ ] | | [ ] | | [___________________] | | | |--------------------- RF SHIELD ----------------------| | | | [BATTERY] | | ------------- | | - - | | - VRAM - | | ------------- | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | """""""--| |--""""""---"""""""""""---[]--[]--"""""--- Video | | Prntr SCSI s1 s2 DSP -- Ether Any info will be helpful. Thanx. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- darkon@netins.net | FurryMUCK | Furtoonia | Tehrasha Darkon -------------------------------------------------------------------- "For viewers at home, the answer is coming up on your screens. Those of you who wish to play it the hard way, stand upside down with your head in a bucket of pirrahna fish." -- Monty Python All unsolicited commercial Email cheerfully forwarded to postmasters. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!lfheller.demon.co.uk!lfheller.demon.co.uk!leon From: Leon Heller Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.windows,alt.windows95,biz.comp.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading my system: HELP!!! Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:34:49 +0000 Organization: Home Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <01bc396a$8bbf06c0$LocalHost@iris.cybercomm.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: lfheller.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: lfheller.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03 Lines: 23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware:3153 alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt:29949 alt.windows:438 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware:29609 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:142355 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc:90321 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:54558 comp.sys.next.hardware:28074 In article <01bc396a$8bbf06c0$LocalHost@iris.cybercomm.nl>, Ron Dijkstra writes >Hi there all, > >here's my system > >486 dx/2 66 mhz. (AMD) >420 doubled Hd-drive >16 Mb memory. >OS: Win95 [unwanted crap deleted] > >I hope there are some people who can give me some advice. See the Posting Guidelines, you twerp! -- Leon Heller Amateur radio callsign: G1HSM Email: leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk http://www.lfheller.demon.co.uk Tel: +44 (0) 118 947 1424 (home) +44 (0) 1344 385556 (work) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!GIMLI.genias.de!dali!news From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: RE: dual head display X-Nntp-Posting-Host: klimt Message-ID: Sender: news@onevision.de Reply-To: hans@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5h2krk$gri@guide.muc.de> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:12:21 GMT Lines: 50 In article <5h2krk$gri@guide.muc.de> me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) writes: > hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) wrote: > >In article <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> ktchan writes: > >> Does any one have any chance test a Matrox dual head display? > >> > >> Only the Elsa have the power, the NeXTanswer mentioned the Matrox is > >> capable to display two monitor. > >> > >> Any one tried to do it? > >> > >We have two dual headed systems running using the Matrox. No problem. > >-- > >====================================================================== > >Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH > >Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 > >Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg > >No big mails, Please! Germany > > Could someone (Hans?) please exlpain this to me!? I never heard that the > Matrox (Millenium, I guess) has the capability of being used in dual head > systems. Neither the matrox handbook nor the respective nextanswers entry > give any hints. Did I miss some information? > Thanks for helping me out of my confusion. > Yes, I can. first I am not one of the lucky guys with two Monitors, my desk is already to small... On the Matrox cards exactly ONE cards must have VGA compatibility turned on all other cards HAVE TO TURN OFF VGA. Install the VGA compatible Matrox card and install the first instance of the MATROX driver No add the additional cards and additional driver instances... There is more detailed information in the MAtrox driver itself. Install the driver and ask for Help in configure. Hope it helps Hans ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!roper.uwyo.edu!roper.uwyo.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pentium Pro Motherboard and OpenStep Message-ID: <1997Mar28.073854.26419@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 28 Mar 97 07:38:54 MST Distribution: world Nntp-Posting-Host: panoramix.uwyo.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu Lines: 30 I was wondering if anyboby had any experience with specific motherborads and OpenStep? I would like to make sure that any motherboard I might buy will run OpenStep. I am currently looking at the SuperMicro P6DNE with only one CPU installed. This motherboard has 8 72 pins slots and uses the FX440 Natroma chip set. How does this motherboard compare to others like the Intel offering, and th TYAN motherboards? Would it be a problem to have a 2 processor motherboard with only one installed? Another option would be to get the SuperMicro P6SNS which has support for only 1 pentium pro BUT comes with a built in Adaptec 2940UW controller. IS this controller supported (I know that the stand alone one is supposed to be, but is the built in one exactly the same??). I would appreciate any information and tips. Thanks!! Nor -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!news.indiana.edu!not-for-mail From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Identify Empty Socket on MB Date: 28 Mar 1997 10:57:58 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5hgpq6$58m@megamouth.cs.indiana.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: megamouth.cs.indiana.edu In article , Tehrasha Darkon wrote: >Anyone know what this mysterious empty socket on my >030 Cube motherboard is? The PGA socket in the corner by the bus connector is for a NuBus Interface Chip (NBIC). The NBIC was only needed if you installed other cards in the cube, such as a NextDimension upgrade. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Christian Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: partition of hard disk for NEXTSTEP 3.3 and Windows 95 Date: 28 Mar 1997 16:23:00 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 26 Message-ID: <01bc3b94$4bdb67c0$42ca92cf@default> References: <5h8unk$6gp@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.202.66 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 joe herrmann wrote in article <5h8unk$6gp@news.tamu.edu>... > 1. Should I borrow a zip drive to back the hard drive up before doing the > partition? This would be wise. > Could I put it on floppies? Not unless you have a lot of time on your hands. :) Not a practical solution. > 2. How do I do the partition? I heartily recommend PowerQuest's PartitionMagic. It's very fast, and you will likely lose no data. When I used it, I created a 1GB partition for NS on my 2GB drive, and left it unformatted. This is contrary to the PartitionMagic manual, but Windows will not recognize the NS partition anyway. The NS installer will, and that's all that matters. -- **************************************************** Chris Jensen chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!tribune.usask.ca!usenet From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HomeNet Date: 26 Mar 1997 16:26:53 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5hbiod$mam@tribune.usask.ca> References: <5h9ljq$rvi$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pisces.usask.ca X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81) mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: >> What do I need to connect these two stations? Just the proper coax cable with >> the right connectors? Or do I need to make a loop between them. Or do I need >> some other hardware box to make it work? >> >> I know how to deal with the net at school, but have no idea how to create a >> small one at home using just my two machines. > >If you go the thin coax route all you need is a thin coax cable with a "T" >on each end. Connect the "T" to each NeXT and put a resistor on each open >end of the "T". That's all there is too it. If you want to network more >than two computers, it gets a little more complex, but basically you just >have to remember that the line from the machine to the "T" on the trunk >line can't be over about 18" or so. > GACK! NO! A 10Base2 (thinwire coax) Ethernet should not have *any* `stubs' between the T and the device. The BNC T's should be attached directly to the transceiver or network card. A single segment can be up to 185 meters long and have 60 `discontinuities'. Each BNC T counts as 2 discontinuities so you can have a maximum of 30 nodes on a segment. -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308 University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058 Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Christian Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster AWE 64 or AWE 32 and NSFIP (PLEASE READ) Date: 28 Mar 1997 16:30:48 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <01bc3b95$62e25fe0$42ca92cf@default> References: <3338EEF4.2DA4@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.202.66 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 I tried the NS SB16 driver, both versions, on my Intel system, which has a SB AWE 32 PnP card. Neither driver worked for me. I, too, would be interested in tips to make this card work with NS FIP 3.3. > Does anyone know if either the Creative Labs SoundBlaster AWE 32 or > the SoundBlaster AWE 64 will work under NSFIP?? Has anyone done > this?? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: really *short* ethernet cables. Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:41:51 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 In article , John C. Randolph wrote: >HI all, > >Does anyone know if they'll balk if the ethernet cables are only four >inches long (to go between two that are stacked) or a foot and a half >long? > I doubt it will work (it's not supposed to); I think somewhere around one foot is the minimum length. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Really short ethernet cables Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:50:01 GMT Lines: 52 In article crusader@airmail.net (Mark Janszen Ringo) writes: > Don't sweat it. Ethernet is EXTREMELY forgiving. No comparison between > it and SCSI. You can manufacture cables to any specification, all that > you need is a crimper. > Not quite so! Although Ethernet is quite robust and degradation is graceful (to some extent), there are some misconfigs that can cost you effective bandwidth to a considerable extent. Unfortunately, nobody in this thread specified the type of physical layer they were referring to, but let's give a few hints on the determining factors. Ethernet is a shared media using CSMA/CD relying on collision detection as means of multiple access arbitration. For 10base5 and 10base2 physical media this means that exceeding maximum as well as minimum distances/ extensions will hamper the reliability of collision detection. Undetected/misdetected collisions result in errors in higher protocols (link layer, network layer), thus wasting bandwidth for retransmissions and CPU cycles since these layers almost always rely on software. For 10base5 the maximum span is 1,500 feet for up to 100 taps (multiple access units have a maximal fan out of 8, thus allowing up to 800 nodes) and the minimum distance is 8 feet (but who cares about yellow cable these days :-). 10base2 has a maximum span of 600 feet for a maximum of 30 nodes and a minimum distance of two feet. 10baseT has no minimum distance and the allowable lenght of a drop cable depends mainly on the attinuation maxing out at 300 feet for class 5 cabling. > > HI all, > > > > I'm about to re-cable my four NeXT machines, and I've just put them > > in two stacks, right next to each other. The maximum distance between > > any two of their ethernet ports is a foot and a half. > > > > Does anyone know if they'll balk if the ethernet cables are only four > > inches long (to go between two that are stacked) or a foot and a half > > long? > > > > I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I > > switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet > > as touchy as SCSI? > > > > -jcr > -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help! DSP-56 Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3339D4D1.9@ms13.hinet.net> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:47:32 GMT Lines: 16 In article <3339D4D1.9@ms13.hinet.net> Lee Younggab writes: > Hi, I have some trouble about NeXT sound system!! > Recently I used a SB32PnP.. but was not satisfied to me. > So I wanna buy a RCN's DSP-56...but there is no reseller nor > distributor in this country...TAIWAN.. > How & Where I can get this one? > They take orders by E-mail if you have a credit card. And postal services to Taiwan shoud work... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: power supply of laser printer broken Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5h6bkr$s0r@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:52:00 GMT Lines: 14 In article <5h6bkr$s0r@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) writes: Hello, > The power supply of my Next laser printer is damaged. I'd need some > documentation about it. Is there something available on it? > There are hidden fuses inside the power supply. Go and browse the Usenet archive and FAQ on Peanuts for detailed instructions. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!xfer.kren.nm.kr!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:51:38 -0600 From: tmccarth@usc.edu (Thomas McCarthy) Subject: My slab hangs constantly -- why? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> Reply-To: tmccarth@usc.edu Organization: University of Southern California X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Mar 28 17:35:57 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 128.125.102.92 (sas215-3.usc.edu) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0Gold (Win95; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: tmccarth@usc.edu (Thomas McCarthy) Lines: 34 One of my slabs hangs constantly, and I have exhausted all my own ideas of why. Any help with figuring this out would be appreciated! The problem is with a Color station. It has 32 megs of RAM, and was running just fine until I replaced the hard drive with a new Quantun Fireball 2.1 gig. I bought this from Optimal Object with OS 4.1 Academic preinstalled. Since then, the machine has been hanging. It hangs at odd times, apparently for no reason at all. It can happen during booting, when I move the mouse, insert a floppy, quit an app, or just look at it the wrong way. At first, it would hang every 30 minutes or so. I have disconnected all my external SCSI devices, I have changed the hard drive's address, I have reconnected and reconnected all the cables... I have no more ideas, and the problem hasn't gone away, although it happens less frequently now ("only" about twice a night). I can't get the nmi mini-monitor; the only things that work are a nasty hard reboot or just pulling the plug. Is OPENSTEP this unstable? (I have a hard time believing anything could be this bad -- even my Win95 box is more reliable than this.) Could it be the Fireball? I haven't heard anything bad about them. (Optimal has not replied to my e-mail asking for help, which is why I am posting here.) Could it be the battery? The Hale-Bopp comet? I am really at a loss. Thanks in advance, Tom ---------- Thomas McCarthy tmccarth@usc.edu (No NeXTmail right now, please) (213) 740-5692 -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wetware!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: FAQ on 1024-byte/sec Formatting ? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:03:25 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Paulus Adisoemarta In-Reply-To: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat I don't think there is an FAQ on this. All I know is that you use sdformat, and when I tried it (on a drive that I knew it would work because it had been 1024 before) I could not get it to work. (I could get it to format but then I couldn't get NS to install) Not all drives can use 1024, and Intel hardware cannot boot off of a drive with 1024, as far as I remember. TjL ps -- if you do get it to work I'd love to hear the steps you used and the exact flags for sdformat, because I couldn't come up with any other combinations and none of them worked for me... maybe it was something simple that I was just missing #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed2!btnet!netcom.net.uk!ix.netcom.com!diogenes From: trail@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: FAQ on 1024-byte/sec Formatting ? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 18:10:17 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hh164$jd3@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gra-mi4-06.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Mar 28 10:03:48 AM PST 1997 X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 In article <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu>, paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) wrote: > >I have a SCSI disk from a PC that I want to install on a slab, >and I want to make it with 1024 byte/sector formatted. > >Where is the FAQ to do that (I've looked on both peak and leo site >but couldn't find the specific information). > >Do I need to create an entry in the /etc/disktab before doing >sdform, then BuildDisk ? > Unless changed since NS 3.2, sdform will only do 512 byte formats. What you want to look for in the ftp archives is sdformat, which will format to 1024 byte blocks (assuming your drive will do so, not every one will). Regards, Jeff trail@ix.netcom.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-fw-12.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!rebecca!rpi!not-for-mail From: wongj@alumni.rpi.edu (Jasper Y. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:57:37 -0500 Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY Lines: 45 Message-ID: <5h9anh$1mq6@alumni.rpi.edu> References: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alumni.rpi.edu In article , David Herren wrote: >paul@pth.com,UseNet writes: > >>I was wondering if anyone has tried putting both a Matrox Millenium and #9 > >>I128 Series 2 in the same box running NEXTSTEP 3.3? > > >>I know both of these cards have multi screen support, but will they work > >>together? > > >Bizarre. I just sat down to post a message about these very same cards. I'm afraid I can't answer the above, but I can extend the question. > > >What is the general concensus regarding the differences? We currently run a few OS 4.1 boxes with the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 (using the beta 3.3 driver from the next ftp site--works just fine). We're about to place an order for 15 new machines but we are >told the #9 is backordered 4 to 6 weeks. Dell suggested the Matrox Millenium instead. We're a little reluctant to place a "bulk" order for cards we have no experience with. > > >Any comments? > > > >-- > >David Herren -------------------------------------------------- > > Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ > > General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu > > NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu > Millenium works just fine, I highly recommend it. A major improvement from what I used to use (Diamond 3240XL). Jasper -- --< NeXT >--| Table Tennis | \ / | Volleyball |--< BeBox >-- | Gergely / TSP X / RITC 802 \ / Tachikara SC-5W / Mizuno | | wongj@rpi.edu, jwong@bccn.org \ / IRC: mizzle @ #unix, #next | --< Homepage forever under .... \/ .... construction >NeXTMail>-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.57.66.3!news.fibr.net!news.txdirect.net!legend.txdirect.net!not-for-mail From: ferengi@legend.txdirect.net (Conceptual Mindworks Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Network Connections Date: 28 Mar 1997 20:16:24 GMT Organization: Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5hh8uo$7ob$1@eclipse.txdirect.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: legend.txdirect.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Hello All, I was reading one of the threads above and I have a question. Does the NeXT 10-BaseT port support 100Mb? Thanks, Dan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!frii.com!deimos.frii.com!chk From: chk@deimos.frii.com (Christian Kuhtz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Network Connections Date: 28 Mar 97 20:25:28 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <5hh8uo$7ob$1@eclipse.txdirect.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deimos.frii.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) ferengi@legend.txdirect.net (Conceptual Mindworks Inc.) writes: >Hello All, >I was reading one of the threads above and I have a question. Does the NeXT >10-BaseT port support 100Mb? What's that supposed to mean? 100Mbps Fast Ethernet is called 100baseT or 100baseTX (for copper) and 100baseFL or 100baseFX (for fiber). So, unless something's labeled 100base assume it is 10base. And no, it's not available for black hardware (aside from being pointless, considering bandwidth within the machine) in any other form. I don't see a reason for it to not be available on other hardware. Support requirements for 100base are neglible. Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz (work) (home) Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ "Humbly speaking for myself only." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news.clark.net!noos.hooked.net!news.well.com!birdrock From: birdrock@well.com (Brian Dear) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! Quantum HD won't power up Date: 28 Mar 1997 20:49:10 GMT Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5hhas6$i0d$1@was.hooked.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: well.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I have a Canon object.station 41 machine with a Quantum 1.2 GB HD. Recently I shut down the machine and when I brought it back up, the hard disk would not spin up, and so therefore the machine cannot boot NEXTSTEP. Is there ANY way to fix this drive and get it to power up? Perhaps replace its motor or something? I need the data on the disk, and I know the disk itself is fine, as is the data. It just doesn't spin up. It used to be that when I would turn the machine on, it would take 5 min for the Quantum to spin up, and but once it did, NEXTSTEP could boot. Since I only rarely (and I mean, like every 4 or 5 months) powered down the machine, it wasn't a problem. Well, now the drive appears to be dead. I need to figure out how to revive it. Any suggestions would be welcome! please email brian@birdrock.com [note to spammers: do NOT use this email address for your spam. I am not interested. period.] #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: HELP! Quantum HD won't power up In-Reply-To: birdrock@well.com's message of 28 Mar 1997 20:49:10 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dura.spc.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 15 Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 References: <5hhas6$i0d$1@was.hooked.net> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 21:13:33 GMT birdrock@well.com (Brian Dear) said: > > > I have a Canon object.station 41 machine with a Quantum 1.2 GB HD. > Recently I shut down the machine and when I brought it back up, the hard > disk would not spin up, and so therefore the machine cannot boot NEXTSTEP. Sounds like sticktion to me. FWIW, I seem to remember that those "Warranty void if seal broken" seals cover motor spindles. Old drives (esp. Quantums) seem to have motors that just die over time. Giving them a helping hand on initial power-up to get the spin going seems to work. I've also seen powdered graphite applied, and it seemed to work, but I don't know that I'd advocate that approach. -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.sgi.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: thedrjay@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used NEC 17+ or Samsung SyncMaster 6NE? Date: 15 Mar 1997 02:15:30 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <19970315021501.VAA11129@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <199703041731.MAA02533@kira.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader If you go with the Samsung monitor you should get the 17Gls. I am happy with the one I use and the cost is only a little higher than the 17NE. It also has better controls than the 17NE, which is Samsung's lowest priced 17" monitor. The 17Glsi are the best 17" monitor made by Samsung but unfortunately its price is a lot higher than the 17NE or 17Glsi. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz or Zip mounting to IntelNeXT box? Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:28:46 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5hhd6e$9ck$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5he51e$gb2@gateway.wiltel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961006] In comp.sys.next.hardware Mike Zemina <*mikez@NOSPAM.msn.com*> wrote: : Are there drivers to allow a SCSI Jaz or Zip to be mounted to an intel NS box? Mounting a jaz drive formatted with FAT, VFAT, or HFS works as normal. Formatting a jaz drive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep is problematic and requires the jaz drive package from NeXT. ................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!not-for-mail From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Opinions on Micron for NS/Intel? Date: 28 Mar 1997 22:20:26 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5hhg7a$kvb$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: shark.orcacomputer.com.blacksburg.va.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi, Anyone have any experiences they would to share running NS/Intel on Micron machines? Any info is appreciated, Thanks, -Chuck #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!not-for-mail From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone use 3COM EtherLink III 3C905 with NS/Intel? Date: 28 Mar 1997 22:19:35 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5hhg5n$kvb$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: shark.orcacomputer.com.blacksburg.va.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi, My company is looking at buying a computer with a 3COM EtherLink III 3C905 for use with OPENSTEP 4.1 for Intel. Has anyone used this specific card? According to NeXTanswers the EtherLink III is supported, but the specific cards they mention (such as 3C509 and 3C579) do not include the 3C905. Any tips are appreciated, Thanks, -Chuck #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EZ-Flyer as a backup on a NeXTCube? Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:11:31 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Bill Anderson In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat [I removed .misc from the followup, as there should not be xposts to it, and this really is a hardware question.] The EZ-flyer and earlier EZ135 will both work w/o problem as long as you have the SCSI version (vs the parallel port version) all you need is a SCSI-1 port. TjL -- TjL META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ News: (Unconfirmed) Reports that Rhapsody will be based on BSD 4.4, meaning no more 2gig limit, see http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/rhapsody-bsd #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.best.com!idiom.com!idiom.com!jcr From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB NeXT mouse with a Mac Date: 27 Mar 1997 01:43:28 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <01bc274a$28698b40$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> <333931FC.1CE6@aye.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Not only that, but a NeXT ADB keyboard works just fine plugged into my PowerBook 6300. Makes it *much* more comfortable to use, and the power key even works! The brightness and volume keys don't seem to get recognized, but I guess you can't have everything. -jcr john@aye.net writes: >Yes it is possible to use a NEXT mouse with your mac. I have a friend >who is using one with a NEXT keyboard on his Quadra 950. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: FAQ on 1024-byte/sec Formatting ? Date: 29 Mar 1997 04:10:36 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Lines: 37 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hi4ns$sn1$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <5hh164$jd3@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu Cc: >In article <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu>, paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) wrote: > > > >I have a SCSI disk from a PC that I want to install on a slab, > >and I want to make it with 1024 byte/sector formatted. > > Thanks for the help, I got so many helpful helps. Harddisk: Toshiba MK538FB (1.2 GB) NeXTstep: 3.3 on black (mono station) What I did: - download the sdformat version 1.3 from ftp.peak.org (/pub/next/apps/disk/sdformat.1.3.MIHS.tar.gz ) - attach the SCSI disk with SCSI ID#2 (the default ID for sdformat, so I don't have to type the ID explicitly). - use sdformat with the following command: sdformat -v -b1024 -f ( -v for verbose), -b for block size, and -f for format) The program will then run for several minutes. - initialize and run BuildDisk Thank you guys (I should've ask earlier, instead spending a night browsing all FAQs and found that there is none on this subject :( Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!news.stealth.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 00:21:23 -0600 From: alanlb@alanlb.beva.blacksburg.va.us Subject: [HELP] Replaced motherboard on slab, now won't boot Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <859615872.12006@dejanews.com> Reply-To: alanlb@vt.edu Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: alanlb@vt.edu X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Mar 29 06:11:13 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 128.173.28.206 (alanlb.beva.blacksburg.va.us) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/1.0 libwww/2.16pre2 X-Authenticated-Sender: alanlb@alanlb.beva.blacksburg.va.us Lines: 23 Configuration: 25MHz non-ADB NeXTstation with 20MB RAM (30-pin), 1.05GB Quantum hard disk (circa 1992), running NEXTSTEP 3.2. CD-ROM is original NEXT equipment. I swapped out the motherboard with a Turbo board bought from Deepspace Tech; the latter was outfitted with 2 x 16MB 60ns EDO SIMMs. Now, when I attempt to boot from the monitor with the "b sd" command, I get Exception #4 (0x10) at pc 0x4380000 sp 0x9fff1ce All the hardware checked out fine according to the standard diagnostics. All 32MB of RAM were properly detected and identified. I tried to booting from CD-ROM (3.2 User CD) and the boot floppy that comes with it, and got the same results with both. Any ideas, anyone? thanks, alan -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: alanlb@alanlb.beva.blacksburg.va.us Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 00:58:26 -0600 Subject: cmsg cancel <859615872.12006@dejanews.com> Message-ID: Sender: alanlb@alanlb.beva.blacksburg.va.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Control: cancel <859615872.12006@dejanews.com> X-Cancelled-By: alanlb@alanlb.beva.blacksburg.va.us Approved: postnews@dejanews.com Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Originating-IP-Addr: 128.173.28.206 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 3 Original Subject: [HELP] Replaced motherboard on slab, now won't boot Comments: Cancelled by author. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.indigo.ie!ts11-10.dublin.indigo.ie!user From: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Slab Startup Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:22:13 GMT Organization: Paul O'Neill Designs Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts11-10.dublin.indigo.ie I have just acquired a number of NeXT turbo color workstations which surplus to requirements at a local college. Unfortunately they used to be networked, so when I turn them on it sits there waiting to connect to the ethernet (the server was a cube which I don't have). The word is that each of the machines have a full copy of the system software on on the internal hard disk. The manual says press Ctrl-Alt-Tilde to run a monitor program but this doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? Thanks, Paul. -- Paul O'Neill Designs Electronic & Software Product Development email : hponeill@indigo.ie web : http://indigo.ie/~hponeill #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!fido.asd.sgi.com!news From: Michael Taylor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:23:53 -0500 Organization: Alias|Wavefront Lines: 33 Message-ID: <333A9F19.41C6@aw.sgi.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: opus.tor.aw.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 processors are > selling for what looks like only $40 more than P120. > > I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for $40 it > seems worthwhile to upgrade. > > Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price diff or > was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether the diff between > P120 and P133 is significant? It's definately worth the extra money. You're not just getting a few extra Mhz on your processor, you will also get a faster bus speed which will make your whole system (cards,memory,etc.) run faster. 120Mhz = 60Mhz bus speed (120 = 2 x 60) 133Mhz = 66Mhz bus speed (133 = 2 x 66) Also, there's a good chance that you could safely overclock the 120 up to 133 just by flipping a jumper. There are a couple of motherboards coming out now that support 75Mhz bus speeds. Bus speed can be a very big performance factor. For more info, see Tom's Hardware Performance Page at: http://www.sysdoc.pair.com/ /\/\ike -- /\/\ike Taylor | Mail: mtaylor@aw.sgi.com Alias|Wavefront Toronto | Voice: (416) 362-8558 x8740 Developer, API =D--' http://reality.sgi.com/mtaylor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news1.best.com!idiom.com!idiom.com!jcr From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! Quantum HD won't power up Date: 29 Mar 1997 03:52:03 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <5hhas6$i0d$1@was.hooked.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) birdrock@well.com (Brian Dear) writes: >I have a Canon object.station 41 machine with a Quantum 1.2 GB HD. >Recently I shut down the machine and when I brought it back up, the hard >disk would not spin up, and so therefore the machine cannot boot NEXTSTEP. I had the same problem, and discovered from the OEM data sheets on the particulare Quantum drive I was using, that there is a jumper which tells the drive to "always spin up" without waiting for a device-attention or spin-up message fro the SCSI controller. Try closing various jumper sets, and see what happens. If you're luucky, there will be a diagram of the jumpers on a sticker on the drive. -jcr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!192.109.159.3!news.gtn.com!inn.aball.de!harvey.aball.de!turbocat.de!root From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI timeouts (Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice) Date: 29 Mar 1997 15:27:34 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5hjcd6$2br@alice.turbocat.de> References: <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org> <5h79qu$pg8@news.next.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cat.turbocat.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) wrote: (...) >"It made sense at the time". No, really! Some of the older cubes here have >hard drives that take even longer than that to spin up and be ready for >reading - they timeout the first time the system is turned on. >-- >Mark Bessey >Apple Computer, Inc. >-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- Once, I had NetBSD on by PC (to intstall it on another disk for a computer that does not have a floppy and tape). The system checked the CD-Rom for about a second. And told me: No Disk in drive or something similar. That should be possible for NeXT also. Look at the NetBSD source code! It's free. -- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82152 eMail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://harvey.aball.de/dave DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!news1.agis.net!agis!news4.agis.net!atmnet.net!news.4dcomm.com!usenet From: bisk@4dcomm.com (Stephen D. Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium Pro Motherboard and OpenStep Date: 29 Mar 1997 19:19:22 GMT Organization: 4D Global Internet Services Lines: 76 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hjpvq$9td@news.4dcomm.com> References: <1997Mar28.073854.26419@roper.uwyo.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bisk3.4dcomm.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu In <1997Mar28.073854.26419@roper.uwyo.edu> norbert pirzkal wrote: > > I was wondering if anyboby had any experience with specific motherborads and > OpenStep? > I would like to make sure that any motherboard I might buy will run OpenStep. > I am currently looking at the SuperMicro P6DNE with only one CPU installed. > This motherboard has 8 72 pins slots and uses the FX440 Natroma chip set. > How does this motherboard compare to others like the Intel offering, and th > TYAN motherboards? > Would it be a problem to have a 2 processor motherboard with only one > installed? > > Another option would be to get the SuperMicro P6SNS which has support for > only 1 pentium pro BUT comes with a built in Adaptec 2940UW controller. IS > this controller supported (I know that the stand alone one is supposed to be, > but is the built in one exactly the same??). > > I would appreciate any information and tips. > > Thanks!! > Nor > > > I've built one NS3.3 Pentium Pro box using a TYAN Titan-Pro M/B: S1662 440FX PCI-ISA V1.1 System board. I've had constant lock-ups due, I think, to video. If I run BackSpace this system will definitely lock-up within 2-12 hours. Otherwise it runs for days until the system hangs. But it will eventually hang. System specs: TYAN Titan-Pro PP200 128MB EDO RAM ELSA Winner 2000/Pro Western Digital 1.2GB HD SoundBlasterPro-16 Hitachi 7X IDE CD-ROM I've tried all iterations in the BIOS setup but whatever I do to make the system more robust seems to slow it down, sometimes to the point where a neighboring P133 literally blows its doors off !!! I've updated the BIOS from 2.2 to 3.03 - NO DIFFERENCE. I love the TYAN Pentium M/B's but probably won't be buying anymore of their PRO variety for NS. On a more positive note, I've also deployed the following system: PP200 64MB EDO RAM Matrox Millenium 4MB VRAM Western Digital 1.2GB HD SoundBlasterPro-16 Toshiba 4X IDE CD-ROM This is with a NO-NAME clone M/B: SQ600 Pentium Pro w/AMI BIOS I really tend to like AWARD better than AMI too but this board SCREAMS and NEVER gives me any grief !!! da bisk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with upgrading modem using 'sx' xmodem commands Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:14:05 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 42 Message-ID: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat This is offtopic, but it is also my only place to turn. I am trying to use a 'flash' upgrade to allow my modem to become a 33.6 rather than a 28.8. However, to do this I need to use XMODEM transfer, and so far my attempts have failed. I have the 'sx' command, and the 'sb' command on my system (not sure which I should use, or how) I need to 'send' my modem these two files: Upgd1201.sb7 sup1201.sb7 with these qualifications: 8N1 (8 bit, No parity, 1 stop bit) "Ensure that hardware flow control (RTS/CTS) or None is set in your software (NOT x-on/x-off)." (that is from the "README") I am supposed to issue a 'at**' command to prepare the modem. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it. Thanks TjL -- TjL New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK (ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/put/next) META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: My slab hangs constantly -- why? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:49:30 GMT Lines: 40 In article <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> tmccarth@usc.edu (Thomas McCarthy) writes: > One of my slabs hangs constantly, and I have exhausted all my > own ideas of why. Any help with figuring this out would be > appreciated! > > The problem is with a Color station. It has 32 megs of RAM, and > was running just fine until I replaced the hard drive with a new > Quantun Fireball 2.1 gig. I bought this from Optimal Object with > OS 4.1 Academic preinstalled. Since then, the machine has been > hanging. It hangs at odd times, apparently for no reason at all. > It can happen during booting, when I move the mouse, insert a > floppy, quit an app, or just look at it the wrong way. > > At first, it would hang every 30 minutes or so. I have disconnected > all my external SCSI devices, I have changed the hard drive's > address, I have reconnected and reconnected all the cables... I > have no more ideas, and the problem hasn't gone away, although > it happens less frequently now ("only" about twice a night). I > can't get the nmi mini-monitor; the only things that work are a > nasty hard reboot or just pulling the plug. > Although I haven't seen this on a hard disk, my old sony CD/ROM drive shows the same behaviour when I use some troubled CDs (like my old NS 3.0 disk). Seems that the generic SCSI driver has some uniteruptible kernel sections that can get stuck. On a hard disk I'd geuss this could happen when the drive is still left in factory configuration (i.e. SCSI-II, synchronous). SCSI-II features like disconnect/reconnect are not properly supported by the driver software. Some drives need to explicitly disable these features or get stuck in some operations. This applies to black hardware only, of course! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!procom.it!mirko Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199703291127.MAA13270@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: Mirko Viviani Date: Sat, 29 Mar 97 12:27:13 +0100 Subject: Which fast serial card ? Reply-To: Mirko Viviani Lines: 20 Ciao... I'm thinking to move to ISDN and I need a fast serial card... Could someone tell me is the ZyXEL 2s1p card works under NSFIP v3.3 ? Which serial card can I try ? Thanks. --- _____________________________________________________________ Mirko Viviani E-Mail: mirko@procom.it (NeXTmail, MIME, ASCII) Via Colletta 4 WWW: http://www_local.procom.it:8080/~mirko I-26100 Cremona Tel: +39 372 39740 Italy Fax: +39 372 36302 _____________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!shelob.afs.com!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3027859093225@digifix.com> Date: 30 Mar 1997 05:00:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <7486859698032@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:62187 comp.sys.next.announce:4120 comp.sys.next.hardware:28109 comp.sys.next.software:28844 comp.sys.next.misc:25442 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26093 comp.sys.next.bugs:4236 comp.sys.next.programmer:23826 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!mr.net!newshub.tc.umn.edu!newsstand.tc.umn.edu!usenet From: Jeff Hallgren Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! Quantum HD won't power up Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:46:00 -0500 Organization: I make stacks of papers, then throw them away. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <333D4748.314A@abaton.com> References: <5hhas6$i0d$1@was.hooked.net> Reply-To: jhall@abaton.com NNTP-Posting-Host: balihi.umhc.umn.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: Jeff Hallgren (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) To: Brian Dear X-Priority: Normal Brian Dear wrote: > > I have a Canon object.station 41 machine with a Quantum 1.2 GB HD. > Recently I shut down the machine and when I brought it back up, the hard > disk would not spin up, and so therefore the machine cannot boot NEXTSTEP. > The object station(s) I used awhile back became increasingly hard to boot. At one point I was wrapping the drive in a heating pad (!!) It works, apparently loosening up the gunk inside that prevents it from spinning up. Shortly after that the ethernet went out... Don't put any money into repairing a Canon object.station 41. -- Jeff Hallgren jhallgre@abaton.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.ironhorse.com!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!news.insinc.net!news.cadvision.com!usenet From: root@guzzibill.cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: My slab hangs constantly -- why? Date: 30 Mar 1997 04:58:28 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5hkrtk$298k@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> Reply-To: scollarw@cadvision.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ts25ip146.cadvision.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: tmccarth@usc.edu In <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> Thomas McCarthy wrote: > One of my slabs hangs constantly, and I have exhausted all my own ideas of > why. Any help with figuring this out would be appreciated! > > The problem is with a Color station. It has 32 megs of RAM, and was > running just fine until I replaced the hard drive with a new Quantun > Fireball 2.1 gig. Tom..I've just bought & installed (as the primary boot drive) a Quantum Fireball 2.1 Gig from APS technologies. Right out of the box I installed NS3.3 on it and my Turbo Colour 32-mags just fired up as if it had always been there. (QUIET TOO!) No probs so far (3rd day). -- Bill Scollard Scollard Holdings Ltd. Calgary, Canada ** Computer Systems : cradle-to-grave ** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!news.dra.com!news.he.net!nntp.iccom.com!news.rain.net!nntp.teleport.com!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: skeezics@linda.teleport.com (Skeezics Boondoggle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: 30 Mar 1997 03:38:28 -0800 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5hljbk$p98$1@linda.teleport.com> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5hacj2$rto$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: linda.teleport.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) In <5hacj2$rto$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) writes: >Unfortunately, NEXTSTEP on Motorola works only on NeXT hardware. You might >send a note to the Rhapsody development team about how wonderful it would be if >it were ported to work on Mac and NeXT 68040 hardware. >-- yes!! all the tools work on m68k now. and nextstep already has nubus support; aside from the 25mhz clock, isn't "nextbus" to nubus specs? i swear i read an article a long, long time ago where a "reliable source" (possibly even one with @next.com in their address ;-) mentioned that a next engineer had managed to boot up nextstep on a quadra 700 "just for fun." of course, without details of the swim chip things like audio and floppy access weren't working, but that kind of info shouldn't be so hard to come by these days, what with the merger and all. it sure would be nifty if rhapsody would support '040-based macs. at worst they'd be about the same speed as the original black hardware, but unlike our beloved orphans, mac owners have quite a selection of upgrade options. ppc and faster '040 upgrades for older macs are still quite prevalent in the mac mail order rags these days. call it enlightened self interest, call it a pipe dream, but there has to be a *sizeable* number of '040 macs out there - certainly many times more than original black boxes - and if somehow we could convince apple/next to support them, it'd mean keeping the black hardware updates coming just a little longer too. :-) one can dream, no? -- skeez -- skeezics@teleport.com it's a pretty safe bet that my opinions have little bearing on reality, especially teleport's version of it. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS Date: 30 Mar 1997 23:27:28 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 34 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5hmst0$a7j$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> <5guct7$c4t$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: klui@cup.hp.com In <5guct7$c4t$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> Ken Lui wrote: > In article , > >I believe that NeXT hardware cannot tell if your SIMMs are faster than > >70ns. > > The turbo hardware does know, because I have 60ns SIMMs > and the monitor says so at powerup. > > My ADB ND Turbo says 60ns also. Mike care to shed some light on this one. If the ROM reports 60ns (vs. 100 which I think I've seen in a Non ADB Turbo slab with these same 60ns simms) will it use them in 70ns mode or 100ns mode. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) Note: My reply to header is invalid because parsing spammers are abusing any use of dead@eatthis.spammers.channelu.com type labels in public posts. First it was the easy Reply-To: fields we all know & love. Now it's text itself. I'd love to see a parser that can discern the intended meaning of the word at and the name rencsok (etc) and equate it to channelu dot com to reconstruct my address.. :} But then a parser still has a lot of header fields to play with :( #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Anyone using Kinesis keyboard on Black Hardware? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:34:07 GMT References: <5heqli$qss@library.airnews.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 31 In article <5heqli$qss@library.airnews.net>, Yi Liu wrote: >Folks, > >I've just ordered a Kinesis keyboard that can switch between PC/MAC-ADB >and QWERTY/Dvorak modes. I've heard that MAC ADB keyboards work on >black hardware, so I'd like to know how well the Kinesis simulates an ADB >NeXT keyboard. Will the "Power" and "Command" work as a NeXT keyboard? >How about "Comman-Alternate-~"? > I don't know about the details, but I seem to recall that Scott Anguish has one of these (sanguish@digifix.com). He raves and raves about them. >He said he's open for user input, and would be willing to produce a >black version if there's enough interest. > Did he say how much "enough interest" is? >Oh, I've also put myself down for a used black Kinesis if he can't sell >them all in-house after Hollywood is done with them. :) > Yeah, right. Good luck with that one. ;) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OPENSTEP support SMP??? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:43:04 GMT References: <01bc3b2f$a53e8190$d87e0e26@godsearth> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 13 In article <01bc3b2f$a53e8190$d87e0e26@godsearth>, Jim Powers wrote: >Does OPENSTEP support SMP under Intel? If so what chipsets are supported? > OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1 does *not* support SMP. OS/NT does, by transitivity, if you will. Who knows about 4.2.... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.fast.net!newsgate.ptd.net!news.ptd.net!litterbox.org!hamors From: hamors@litterbox.org (Sean B. Hamor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: really *short* ethernet cables. Date: 31 Mar 1997 03:40:52 GMT Organization: The Litterbox Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: litterbox.org NNTP-Posting-User: hamors X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- John C. Randolph (jcr@idiom.com) wrote: : I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I : switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet : as touchy as SCSI? In this case it's just the opposite. I'm assuming you're using 10BaseT (coax) to network your machines. 10BaseT works the best with the shortest possible lengths of cable and with each cable EXACTLY the same length. If you use all 5" lengths of cable that are exactly the same length, your network will be extremely fast and efficiant. Remember to properly terminate and ground each end of your 10Base2 network, or you'll get major dropped packets. /\_/\ http://www.litterbox.org/~hamors/pgp.txt To err is human. ( o.o ) for PGP public key block To purr feline. > ^ < Sean B. Hamor - Robert Byrne The Litterbox: http://www.litterbox.org/ Homeless and Abused Pet Rescue -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Even the litter is encrypted... iQEVAwUBMz8yVDU6HlxZIJ+FAQEYRgf/cAhhVTLL/g8z9pufnLHdUvF06gmeV6GK J+4QNpDKc13ahO6SjpxxYu0vB8KN3245kHE/8PRUeHTEYsAYu9L3kyM8iesLOzIm cnOvDD1LyR0YqNsAH3Gbsx+IRCDJcpimce9C/qo/Cr0eJvaiES2EzhMv/re7G46z DWgl+Qz1mrJU/h+Pq5FrY7MEtKvb7UZWWKO2xXzJf7eGWgZnwq8Zx15NPpSH2Q6e 0dBfo27Epk1Rro/9w5SjTebAY+e76Qei8yXopzLdBKW/CcX7xpemTkPXTxDaGB+8 1Sc4hWh/IkAVv81gjHQ8FUfcJ2NZgWy+1DmhDESBMamhlj63++ohvQ== =n2+V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!not-for-mail From: Jason Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Centris Boots then Static Sounds Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 19:30:40 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <333F2FDF.3BE4@leland.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tip-mp10-ncs-4.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Hello. I have a Macintosh Centris 610 technical problem. Here's a rundown of my system configuration and problem: Configuration -Mac Centris 610, 8 MB, 80MB HD, CD-ROM 300i+, flaky power supply? Problem - System boots and sometimes reaches startup stage. Sometimes static from the speaker cuts in after the startup sound and it doesn't boot. The ROM tests okay, but after turning it on a few times I all hear is static and no startup sound. Is it my power supply that's sending an irregular current? I noticed that after turning the computer on and off a few times the static cuts in before the nice soothing, but normal, startup tune. Perhaps after turning the computer on a few times the power supply gets "used up"? Help!!! Thanks. Jason #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!iafrica.com!psgrain!news.rain.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: simple q: re external cases for internal drives Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 21:35:01 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 16 Message-ID: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat This may be obviously possible or impossible, but: right now I have an "internal" SCSI CD-ROM that is in a case which makes it "external" (ribbon cable & power supply, as well as a little thing that lets me set the # (scsi id?) If I had a half-height hard drive that was supposed to be "internal", is there any chance I could put it in this case and make it external?" Just a thought TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!van-bc!n1van.istar!van.istar!west.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone using Kinesis keyboard on Black Hardware? Date: 31 Mar 1997 07:26:04 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5hnouc$mpe$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5heqli$qss@library.airnews.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 03/30/97, David Evans wrote: >In article <5heqli$qss@library.airnews.net>, >Yi Liu wrote: >>Folks, >> >>I've just ordered a Kinesis keyboard that can switch between PC/MAC-ADB >>and QWERTY/Dvorak modes. I've heard that MAC ADB keyboards work on >>black hardware, so I'd like to know how well the Kinesis simulates an ADB >>NeXT keyboard. Will the "Power" and "Command" work as a NeXT keyboard? >>How about "Comman-Alternate-~"? >> > > I don't know about the details, but I seem to recall that Scott Anguish has >one of these (sanguish@digifix.com). He raves and raves about them. > Hey, they're great. About six months after starting Stepwise (which is 3 years old this week BTW) my wrists were toast. The kinesis basically got me working again. You can map the keys on some models of the kinesis (at least it appears that its only on some, its hard to tell from their current model line), the older keyboard (which I have) had a box that had the ADB adaptor on it, so I don't know what the integrated box does to handle it. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Date: 29 Mar 97 00:14:48 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: References: <1997Mar25.205600.792@gamelan.shnet.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.prv1.one.net In-reply-to: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM's message of Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:56:00 GMT Lines: 53 In article <1997Mar25.205600.792@gamelan.shnet.org>, thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: In Timothy Luoma wrote: > I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 > processors are selling for what looks like only $40 more than > P120. > > I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for > $40 it seems worthwhile to upgrade. > > Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price > diff or was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether > the diff between P120 and P133 is significant? As far I know, the P120 is considerably more slow because of some design flaw, so you want to get a P133 ! P120 will be using a 60Mhz memory bus and 30Mhz PCI bus. P133 will be using 66Mhz and 33Mhz. 10% on each. This essentially means that P133 comes close to being 10% faster than P120. P150 goes back to the 60/30 timings, which is why P150 is not 12% faster than P133 like the CPU speed indicates. [Actuall P150 is more like 2% faster, or slower if you're heavily dependent on video speed and the like.] Keep in mind that for the most part P120's are older technology, and there are two types of P133 - the older ones from the P90/100/120/133 phase, and the newer ones from the P133/150/166/180/200 phase. No idea how you tell the difference before buying. I think the newer ones say iPP on the back. [My P133 does, and have the 2.5x and 3x clock multipliers disabled. Just a little _too_ new for me :-).] Probably a more important consideration is whether you're getting an HX or Triton I motherboard. HX is sometimes called Triton II, and VX is sometimes called Triton III. I'm not going to argue VX and HX (_I_ got HX). In any case, the HX is faster than the Triton I in various ways, given the exact same CPU and RAM. The Triton I is cheaper, because it's getting long in the tooth. Besides being faster, the HX will allow you to upgrade through 200Mhz, and if you get the right board you can also do MMX. Perhaps not important now, but if P200 MMX goes for <$200 next year, you'll be glad to have the option to upgrade (rather than pop for an entire new system). Keep in mind that you'll tend to see cheap CPUs bundled with cheap motherboards. So a P120 with a Triton I, versus a P166 with a VX or HX (or now TX - don't get TX, they only cache 64M, _ever_). So you might see bundles where it seems like the price differential is a bit high, but there might be a good reason. Might not, though. Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DOSFileSysPatch--any alternative for NS3.1? Date: 29 Mar 97 00:17:34 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <19970327140000.JAA09147@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.prv1.one.net In-reply-to: willadams@aol.com's message of 27 Mar 1997 14:00:21 GMT In article <19970327140000.JAA09147@ladder01.news.aol.com>, willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) writes: I'm running NS 3.1 on my NeXTCube--is there any way that I can access PC formatted Zip Disks in it directly? Looking at NeXT's web pages I see that they have a patch for NS 3.2 which addresses this--would there be any possibility this would work for 3.1? Assuming that it doesn't, is there any sort of alternative or work-around--would SoftPC allow me to put files onto such a ZipDisk? Or, if Iomega ever comes out with the promised 25MB Zip disks, would they work (since they're smaller than the DOS 32MB FAT size which seems to be the difficulty)? You _might_ try the mtools package, I think there's source on prep.ai.mit.edu. It's generally used to handle floppies, but I seem to recall using it on my Syquest EZFlyer once. [Sorry, don't ask me how to compile it unless you plan to send me treats of some sort. I just played with it and deleted it a couple months ago, I have no current memory of whether it was a tough port or anything.] Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!clas.ufl.edu!hee.phys.ufl.edu!ddr From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Display Driver under NS Intel Date: 31 Mar 1997 15:25:53 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Message-ID: <5hol21$27g@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hee.phys.ufl.edu Lines: 12 I am installing NS 3.3 on a Pentium system. The video card I have is a WinFast PCI card which has a Trio64v+ chip. During the install I have no problems with video, although it is grayscale. I need to select a video driver and do not see the trio 64 as a choice. Is it safe to chooses standard vga? This seems to result in a blank screen. Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Dept., University of Florida Bldg 104 Rm. 5 --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!chapman.com!chapman.com!geordie From: geordie@chapman.com (Geordie Korper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: really *short* ethernet cables. Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:07:11 -0600 Organization: Chapman and Cutler Lines: 30 Approved: USDA Message-ID: References: <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: korper Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 In article <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net>, hamors@litterbox.org (Sean B. Hamor) wrote: :-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : :John C. Randolph (jcr@idiom.com) wrote: : :: I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I :: switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet :: as touchy as SCSI? : :In this case it's just the opposite. I'm assuming you're using 10BaseT :(coax) to network your machines. 10BaseT works the best with the shortest :possible lengths of cable and with each cable EXACTLY the same length. If :you use all 5" lengths of cable that are exactly the same length, your :network will be extremely fast and efficiant. Remember to properly :terminate and ground each end of your 10Base2 network, or you'll get major :dropped packets. You should only ground one end of the cable. If you ground both ends you will end up with a current going between the two ends since the grounds are almost always at slightly different potentials. -- Geordie Korper geordie@chapman.com ********************************************************************* * The text above should in no way be construed to represent the * * opinions of my employer, even if specifically stated to do so. * ********************************************************************* #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in2.uu.net!140.142.64.3!news.u.washington.edu!news.alt.net!newspost1.alt.net!usenet From: onparole@halfwayhouse.com (convict) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Display Driver under NS Intel Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:09:29 GMT Organization: poor Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3341427f.3968581@news.alt.net> References: <5hol21$27g@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 On 31 Mar 1997 15:25:53 GMT, ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) wrote: >I am installing NS 3.3 on a Pentium system. The video card I have is >a WinFast PCI card which has a Trio64v+ chip. During the install I >have no problems with video, although it is grayscale. I need to >select a video driver and do not see the trio 64 as a choice. Is it >safe to chooses standard vga? This seems to result in a blank screen. > >Dan >-- Look in NeXTanswers, document #2382 and #2384. These are generic S3 drivers which support the Trio64v+ chip for 3.3. Surprisingly, the driver also works for NS3.2 on PCI bus. Hope this points you in the right direction. Bon chance. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!agate!usenet From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Micropolis 4421 Fast SCSI-2 in NeXT turbo? Date: 31 Mar 1997 23:20:42 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5hpgsa$s8q@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: romdas.hip.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 1.66 $] NF-D-00021 Anyone have any experience with a Micropolis 4421 (Aries 2) Fast SCSI 2.1MB hard drive in a NeXT Turbo? It's a 3.5" "low profile" disk drive, spins at 5400, ~9ns seek, 5MB/s max transfer asynchronous, etc. Is this going to be a 'plug and play' thing or is it going to be a fussy and troublesome ordeal? I'm especially concerned with its implementation of SCSI-1 in the Turbo. Any experience or thoughts ASAP would be appreciated by e-mail if possible. I'm thinking of ordering on April Fool's Day and don't want to be 'the fool.' Thanks. John #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!221.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: really *short* ethernet cables. Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:52:07 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.221 > : > :In this case it's just the opposite. I'm assuming you're using 10BaseT > :(coax) to network your machines. 10BaseT works the best with the shortest > :possible lengths of cable and with each cable EXACTLY the same length. If > :you use all 5" lengths of cable that are exactly the same length, your > :network will be extremely fast and efficiant. Remember to properly > :terminate and ground each end of your 10Base2 network, or you'll get major > :dropped packets. > I think you misspoke. 10-base-T is twisted pair and 10-base-2 is thin coax. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Slab Startup Date: 1 Apr 1997 01:56:27 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5hpq0b$c9d$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: Reply-To: clowenstein@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: luomat@peak.org In Timothy Luoma wrote: | | get to the ROM monitor (command+command+~ NOT command+alt+~) and change | the preferences (enter 'p' at the NeXT prompt). | | You'll see it is set to 'en' (the boot command). Change it to 'sd' (for | 'scsi device' or 'scsi drive') Just a quick addendum. If you have an ADB keyboard, the magic combination is . If you have any of the others, it's . -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.agtac.net!news.planet.eon.net!news From: "gr" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: No documentation for slab Date: 1 Apr 1997 03:26:52 GMT Organization: Public Live Access Network (PLAnet) Lines: 9 Message-ID: <01bc3e4d$90e10080$52e0b9c7@glen.runzer.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip18.max02.ascend.planet.eon.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Can anyone send me or direct me to some specs and schematics for the color NeXT slab. Also bought an external hard drive contained in a black box I presume it is for the slab, the black box has what appears to be two scsi ports on the back and a up/down counter that can be set goes from 0-9 I quess it's used to select the device number. Can anyone tell me if I can use generic 72 pin RAM, hard drives and cdrom drives. Thanks for any help you can give me. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 02:32:11 -0600 From: rberber@spin.com.mx Subject: Re: help with upgrading modem using 'sx' xmodem commands Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <859882941.8248@dejanews.com> Reply-To: rberber@spin.com.mx Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Apr 01 08:22:21 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 200.12.165.37 (orion05.spin.com.mx) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-2 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: rberber@spin.com.mx Lines: 34 Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I am trying to use a 'flash' upgrade to allow my modem to become a > 33.6 rather than a 28.8. > > However, to do this I need to use XMODEM transfer, and so far my > attempts have failed. > Have you tried the easy way? With Modulator.app edit the ~~DEFAULT~~ host entry. Set the speed, bits, parity and the device (/dev/cufa or /dev/cufb to use flow control.) You may create another entry just make sure to leave the phone number empty and probably just reset (ATZ) your modem. Push Dial to "connect" and type any AT commands you need in the terminal (you may have to enable echo to see what you are typing, i.e. ATe1) Put the files you want to transfer in the "Out Box" (Command-b if not visible.) Select the file. Send them by selecting in the menu: Transfer -> Send Out Box -> XModem. If you have zmodem installed that should do it (the sb, sx are just links or copies of sz.) Hope this helps, --- Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster AWE 64 or AWE 32 and NSFIP (PLEASE READ) Date: 1 Apr 1997 08:32:48 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5hqh7g$r8k$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <3338EEF4.2DA4@erols.com> <01bc3b95$62e25fe0$42ca92cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: zwiebel.physik.tu-berlin.de In-Reply-To: <01bc3b95$62e25fe0$42ca92cf@default> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00004 Hello, On 03/28/97, "Christian Jensen" wrote: >I tried the NS SB16 driver, both versions, on my Intel system, >which has a SB AWE 32 PnP card. Neither driver worked for me. > >I, too, would be interested in tips to make this card work with NS >FIP 3.3. On my Intel system the SB AWE 32 PnP works without problems now! You need the newest EISA-Driver (because of PnP-Support) and the newest SB-16-Driver available from NeXTanswers. Dirk Schwarzhans -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dirk Schwarzhans Email: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (MIME and NeXTMail welcome) WWW: http://pl.physik.TU-Berlin.DE/DZ/Dirk/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.smart.net!not-for-mail From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Opinions on Micron for NS/Intel? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:35:26 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Lines: 13 Message-ID: <33404A3E.7273@smart.net> References: <5hhg7a$kvb$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gh.smart.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) To: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com > Anyone have any experiences they would to share running NS/Intel on Micron > machines? I had no major problems with the installation. However there are a few minor problems. Micron has audio built into the motherboard which NEXTSTEP does not recognize. Also, the internal Zip drive is IDE, which I have not found a way to get NS to recognize either. I would recommend getting a SCSI controller such as the NCR53c810 which should cost around $70. And have Micron install all SCSI drives, including the CD-ROM, Zip, and hard drives. NS seems to work better with it. --gh #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 09:40:16 GMT Lines: 16 In article shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > > Probably a more important consideration is whether you're getting an > HX or Triton I motherboard. HX is sometimes called Triton II, and VX > is sometimes called Triton III. I'm not going to argue VX and HX (_I_ > got HX). Don't buy the VX or its successor, the TX chipset. Although these chipsets allows for 256 Mb RAM, only the first 64 Mb can be cached by the L2 cache. This is a real disaster if you need more than 64 Mb main memory. The 430HX is the best choice. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: really *short* ethernet cables. Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 10:00:37 GMT Lines: 14 In article <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net> hamors@litterbox.org (Sean B. Hamor) writes: > > In this case it's just the opposite. I'm assuming you're using 10BaseT > (coax) to network your machines. 10BaseT works the best with the > shortest possible lengths of cable and with each cable EXACTLY the same > length. If you use all 5" lengths of cable that are exactly the same > length, your network will be extremely fast and efficiant. > I have some docs that recommend a minimum distance of about 20" (0.5 m) between two stations. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.best.com!idiom.com!idiom.com!jcr From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: No documentation for slab Date: 1 Apr 1997 06:34:06 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <01bc3e4d$90e10080$52e0b9c7@glen.runzer.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) You can get the FAQ from next-ftp.peak.org. -jcr "gr" writes: >Can anyone send me or direct me to some specs and schematics for the color >NeXT slab. Also bought an external hard drive contained in a black box I >presume it is for the slab, the black box has what appears to be two scsi >ports on the back and a up/down counter that can be set goes from 0-9 I >quess it's used to select the device number. >Can anyone tell me if I can use generic 72 pin RAM, hard drives and cdrom >drives. >Thanks for any help you can give me. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.66.12.35!news-in.iadfw.net!gryphon.phoenix.net!phillips From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac Hardware - Off Topic But .. Date: 1 Apr 1997 15:08:12 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5hr8cs$7ab$2@gryphon.phoenix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha1.phoenix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Forgive me for posting this information one more time. Some of you may also do work on Mac systems - and someone may ask you to diagnose problems they are having. They may think that a computer is a computer. If those problems include their Mac forgetting the date, starting up in black and white (if they have a color Mac), failing start up at all, etc - it could be a dying logic board battery. This is a simple and fast fix - tho many people have paid for logic board replacements when the problem was a $10 battery. The web site in my .sig (always advertisement-free) tells you the symptoms, gives sources for the batteries, has photos, etc etc etc. I am beginning to look at some 68k NeXT boards and may add a companion NeXT site as well. Hope this information keeps someone's Mac running! -- Charles D Phillips Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.66.12.35!news-in.iadfw.net!usenet From: liuyi@crystalball.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Kinesis Keyboard Update [was Re: Anyone using Kinesis keyboard on Black Hardware?] Date: 1 Apr 1997 16:03:53 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5hrbl9$sgi@library.airnews.net> References: <5heqli$qss@library.airnews.net> Reply-To: liuyi@crystalball.com NNTP-Posting-Host: liuyi.crystalball.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Yi Liu wrote: > I've just ordered a Kinesis keyboard that can switch between PC/MAC-ADB > and QWERTY/Dvorak modes. I've heard that MAC ADB keyboards work on > black hardware, so I'd like to know how well the Kinesis simulates an ADB > NeXT keyboard. Will the "Power" and "Command" work as a NeXT keyboard? > How about "Comman-Alternate-~"? I got it yesterday and now it's working on my ND Turbo Cube! I've checked the following keys and combinations that are specific to the black ADB keyboard: - Power - Command - Alternate - Command-Alternate-~ - Command-Alternate-* and I'm happy to report that all of them work fine with Kinesis MPC in Mac mode. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII} #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!news.dra.com!azure.xara.net!xara.net!easynet-uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!easynet-uko!news.ukonline.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Lee Bennett" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New Problem??? With Network Date: 1 Apr 1997 16:01:48 GMT Organization: L&B Software Lines: 10 Message-ID: <01bb1fe4$9ae7aee0$987206c2@carmen> NNTP-Posting-Host: lon8-24.ukonline.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 I can`t seem to get them to talk to each other, this is really pissing me off right now. I have 12 Black systems with BNC Thin Ethernet cable`s and BNC T Connectors. But thay dont like to talk to each other. Can anyone help me out here????# Many Thanks lee@hyper-zone.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Xconfig for the 21 inch NeXT Monitor ? Date: 1 Apr 1997 20:59:37 GMT Organization: Petroleum and Geosystem Engineering, U of Texas at Austin, Austin TX Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hrsvp$rg4$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu Hi, I wonder if somebody has done this, use the NeXT 21 inch color monitor under Xfree86. I am looking for the Xconfig file (the section that relates with monitor and modeline particularly), so I can also use this monitor for my linux box. thanks, Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!132.205.106.4!newsflash.concordia.ca!feed.umontreal.ca!henneber From: henneber@meds1.MEDCN.UMontreal.CA (Henneberg Kaj-Age) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which HDs work in 25MHz mono-slab Date: 1 Apr 1997 21:25:26 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hrug6$7iu@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: meds1.medcn.umontreal.ca X-newsreader: xrn 7.01-beta-17 Originator: henneber@meds1.MEDCN.UMontreal.CA I didn't find a good answer in the FAQs so perhaps someone could give me a list of hard disks that are known to work as the internal boot device in a 25 MHz NextStation (monochrome). My original 400 Mb HD (Seagate ST1480 Rev. 4511) have made grinding noises for a while now and I would like to upgrade it to something bigger. Do I have a choice between SCSI formats (I or II)? Is there a limit to the size (in Mb)? How many partitions can I have? What else should I know to order one that works? Are there problems I should anticipate when putting NS 3.3 back on the new HD? I don't want to spend more than 3-400 $ if possible. Please mail the answer directly to kaj@igb.umontreal.ca. Thank you for your help. ________________________________________ Dr. K. Henneberg Faculte de medecine, Institut de genie biomedical Universite de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec, Canada -- ________________________________________ Dr. K. Henneberg Faculte de medecine, Institut de genie biomedical Universite de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec, Canada #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!clas.ufl.edu!quark.phys.ufl.edu!ddr From: ddr@quark.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Display Driver under NS Intel Date: 1 Apr 1997 20:00:35 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5hrph3$5ae@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> References: <5hol21$27g@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> <3341427f.3968581@news.alt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: quark.phys.ufl.edu In article <3341427f.3968581@news.alt.net> onparole@halfwayhouse.com (convict) writes: >On 31 Mar 1997 15:25:53 GMT, ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) >wrote: > >>I am installing NS 3.3 on a Pentium system. The video card I have is >>a WinFast PCI card which has a Trio64v+ chip. During the install I >>have no problems with video, although it is grayscale. I need to >>select a video driver and do not see the trio 64 as a choice. Is it >>safe to chooses standard vga? This seems to result in a blank screen. >> >>Dan >>-- > >Look in NeXTanswers, document #2382 and #2384. These are generic S3 >drivers which support the Trio64v+ chip for 3.3. Surprisingly, the >driver also works for NS3.2 on PCI bus. >Hope this points you in the right direction. >Bon chance. > ThankS For the suggestions. This is what I had to do: 0) pull out the S3 carD 1) install a isa video card that would work with the default video driver 2) install the driver for the S3 card 3) power down the system 4) install the S3 PCI card again 5) restart the systeM -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Dept., University of Florida Bldg 104 Rm. 5 --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!news.onramp.net!news From: Brian Sutherland Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Micropolis 4421 Fast SCSI-2 in NeXT turbo? Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 08:59:16 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies, Inc.; ISP Lines: 23 Message-ID: <33427443.5708@onramp.net> References: <5hpgsa$s8q@agate.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: rmaniac@onramp.net NNTP-Posting-Host: help12.onramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) To: John Badanes John Badanes wrote: > > Anyone have any experience with a Micropolis 4421 (Aries 2) > Fast SCSI 2.1MB hard drive in a NeXT Turbo? It's a 3.5" "low > profile" disk drive, spins at 5400, ~9ns seek, 5MB/s max > transfer asynchronous, etc. > > Is this going to be a 'plug and play' thing or is it going to > be a fussy and troublesome ordeal? I'm especially concerned > with its implementation of SCSI-1 in the Turbo. > > Any experience or thoughts ASAP would be appreciated by e-mail > if possible. I'm thinking of ordering on April Fool's Day and > don't want to be 'the fool.' > > Thanks. > > John The Aires is a SCSI-2 fast drive that should work well. I was going to pick up two for my Turbo Color slab and my Color Dimension Turbo Cube. I have not yet but it all looks good. Tell me if you have any problems or wait until I get mine and I'll tell. -Brian #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.65.96.4!news.planetc.com!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!in1.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IrDA Date: 3 Apr 1997 03:56:52 GMT Organization: HTI Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5hv9q4$61s@news2.cais.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.177.56.103 X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:91275 comp.sys.next.hardware:28142 I'd like to add an IrDA infrared receiver (or is that transceiver) to my Intel Venus Pentium Pro system. Can someone recommend one? What should I look for? Does it work under OPENSTEP? My understanding is that it's just a serial port with an IR interface, n'est-ce pas? Thanks, Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New 120Mb floppy drives? Date: 2 Apr 1997 16:38:46 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5hu22m$pkq@news3.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Has anyone gotten those new 120Mb floppy drives? They can read and write old 3.5" 720k and 1.44Mb floppies, BUT can also read and write to 120Mb on special floppies that go for about 20bux each (it's supposed to be 5X the speed of a normal floppy). The problem seems to be that it's an ATAPI/IDE device...so I'm not sure how this will be handled by the BIOS etc... I also wonder how NEXTSTEP would handle regular and the 120Mb floppies from this drive. Anyone have it? Does it work? If so, it might be an ideal device to have as standard; better than zip b/c it does the standard floppy thing and so I'd need only the one device in my floppy bay... BTW, does it automatically mount and eject the media? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!208.197.151.4!news.esinet.net!news1.cstone.net!news5.digex.net!dnaco.net!not-for-mail From: Mitch Chapman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstation color Soundbox, mouse, monitor cable Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 07:08:31 -0500 Organization: The Dayton Network Access Company (DNACo) Lines: 17 Message-ID: <33439DBF.50339329@dnaco.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: uhura-10.dnaco.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i486) I picked up a gov't surplus Nextstation color. No monitor cable (looks like it would be the same sort of cable as a Sparc 5 uses -- is this true?). No mouse. Keyboard is the non-ADB style (L-shaped return key). No soundbox. Does anyone know where I can find the missing parts? Even if you don't know, can you help this NeXT ignoramus with a description of the soundbox? Thanks for any info. -- Mitch Chapman mchapman@dnaco.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with Quantum Fireball 1.2G Date: 3 Apr 1997 07:01:07 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5i0663$89l@papoose.quick.com> References: <5hv7l8$a9e$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com In article <5hv7l8$a9e$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca>, Raymond Lutz wrote: >I'm embarrassed: I can't even install OS4.1 on one of the most popular >drive on csn*, a Quantum Fireball 1.2G... 8^( (munch) >Should I set a jumper to disable synchronous mode? You did not mention platform but I am assuming black. Black hardware only handles asynchronous SCSI, so yes disable synchronous mode. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars? #################################################################### Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 11:55:56 -0500 From: "Robb Aley Allan" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: Next laserprinter Message-ID: Organization: Helical Design X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.0 (22) NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-219-91.ny.us.ibm.net Lines: 5 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!165.87.194.248!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news.ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!slip166-72-219-91.ny.us.ibm.net!user Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:16966 comp.sys.next.hardware:28146 Selling original NeXT laserprinter, very lightly used (first cartridge), in original box. Best offer. You pay shipping. Call Robb Aley Allan at 212.605.0555 or rallan@helical.com (will not get email during week of 3.17-3.24). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!news.stealth.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199704030733.CAA05062@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: <199704020725.BAA00413@spin.com.mx> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 02:33:26 -0500 Subject: SOLVED (Re: help with upgrading modem using 'sx' xmodem commands) Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com, jim@dep.philo.mcgill.ca, kris@xmission.com Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: <859882941.8248@dejanews.com> <199704011554.KAA10655@kira.peak.org> <199704020725.BAA00413@spin.com.mx> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Pgp-Key: Email me Lines: 24 A million thanks to Rene Berber for pointing me in the direction of Modulator and supplying me with the 'rz' and 'sz' commands which I needed (the versions I had didn't work. Although I am not seeing faster connect speeds (this was to make my 28.8 a 33.6, but we have poor line quality here it seems), my modem now has all the current fixes and the newest ROM settings. It also rotates a lot faster between the things which is reports (including connect speed, DC, LP, etc). THANK YOU RENE'! TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!132.175.109.6!news.sandia.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!not-for-mail From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 2 GB limit before or after formatting? Date: 3 Apr 1997 03:51:54 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5hv9gq$38c$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26146 comp.sys.next.hardware:28148 I just got a 2.15 GB IBM UltraStar 2ES drive to run under NEXTSTEP 3.3. I know that 3.3 has a 2 GB limit per partition. Is that a limit on the space before or after formatting? I know that the disk will come out under 2GB after formatting. So if the limit applies to space after formatting, I won't have any problem or waste. But if the limit applies on space before formatting, I will want to split off 150 MB into another partition (I'll use it for my primary swapfile). Any answers greatly appreciated. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenberATmhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!mvb.saic.com!news.cerf.net!io.farallon.com!not-for-mail From: mikec@tsnext.farallon.com (Mike Carter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Monitors and exrtra motherboards Date: 3 Apr 1997 17:45:07 GMT Organization: Farallon Computing Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5i0qb3$ien$1@io.farallon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsnext.farallon.com Keywords: next cube monitor CPU Hello all... Two questions for whoever knows the answers! :) 1). Any way to get color on black hardware cube? Is there anything I can put in the three additional slots that would then magically allow me to forego 4 shades of gray? This would be soooo nice. :) 2). I have two motherboards: a 68040 which runs the OS and the 68030 that it replaced. I've seen mentioned here the ability to use multiple CPUs with the NeXT architecture. Any way to incorporate the old motherboard into the existing setup, or are multiple-CPU applications handled through the use of special hardware? Oh...a third Q has just come to mind. :) 3). Are any of todays MO drives compatible with the one that originally shipped in the Cube? Mine is dead (well, I haven't even attempted to clean it yet...not until I can get my hands on some detailed instructions at least) and I'd like to be able to use my MO disks by purchasing another MO. If you can help, thank you. Mike Carter Farallon Comm. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk!news From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Monitors and exrtra motherboards Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:34:06 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1997Apr3.183406.955@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <5i0qb3$ien$1@io.farallon.com> X-Mail2News-User: news@seer.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: griffin.plsys.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Lines: 31 In <5i0qb3$ien$1@io.farallon.com> Mike Carter wrote: > 1). Any way to get color on black hardware cube? Is there anything I can > put in the three additional slots that would then magically allow me to > forego 4 shades of gray? This would be soooo nice. :) Yes. Buy a NextDimension board. You can have three in there; you need a cable and monitor for each one; the monitor can be a standard PC MultiSync. > 2). I have two motherboards: a 68040 which runs the OS and the 68030 that > it replaced. I've seen mentioned here the ability to use multiple CPUs > with the NeXT architecture. Any way to incorporate the old motherboard > into the existing setup, or are multiple-CPU applications handled through > the use of special hardware? Yes; there are some hardware hacks required, and you need the NBIC chip. There's an FAQ somewhere :-). > 3). Are any of todays MO drives compatible with the one that originally > shipped in the Cube? Mine is dead (well, I haven't even attempted to clean > it yet...not until I can get my hands on some detailed instructions at > least) and I'd like to be able to use my MO disks by purchasing another > MO. No. But cleaning the MO drive is very likely to resurrect it. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cube power problems Date: 3 Apr 1997 19:25:26 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 33 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5i1076$r62$5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5hvjl9$fc$2@red-dwarf.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: cml@red-dwarf.ucdavis.edu In <5hvjl9$fc$2@red-dwarf.ucdavis.edu> Chris Lambertus wrote: > Hey folks, > > I've got an 040/25 cube which tends to get very cranky when > powered down. Once I power the box down, I usually have to > pull the rear panel off and reseat the logic board a few times > before it'll come back on. Has anyone ever run into this > before? > Could be that the battery on the motherboard is getting old. Why reseating the board etc.would make any difference is beyond me. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) Note: My reply to header is invalid because parsing spammers are abusing any use of dead@eatthis.spammers.channelu.com type labels in public posts. First it was the easy Reply-To: fields we all know & love. Now it's text itself. I'd love to see a parser that can discern the intended meaning of the word at and the name rencsok (etc) and equate it to channelu dot com to reconstruct my address.. :} But then a parser still has a lot of header fields to play with :( #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!coop.net!cs.umd.edu!not-for-mail From: dfs@cs.umd.edu (Daniel F. Savarese) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black: Mono monitor cable, DB19? Date: 3 Apr 1997 16:47:32 -0500 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5i18hk$mne@googoo.cs.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: googoo.cs.umd.edu I have a 25MHz NeXTstation with an N4000A MegaPixel monitor but no monitor cable. I know there are a couple of places from which I can order an original NeXT cable, but the prices are kind of ludicrous given the meager sum i paid for the machine itself. (I got the monitor for $10.00 and the slab for $10.00 with only a floppy and no RAM or HD) I got the slab for so cheap because the vendor thought the power supply was bad, but after some fiddling I verified I could get it to work (using borrowed parts from my other NeXTstation). In any case, I am wondering what exact kind of cable would be suitable to use for the monitor. Is any DB19 (male at both ends) cable adequate? If I can't find a DB19 cable (they seem rather rare), can I use an RS-232 DB25 and cut off some pins? If so, where can I find a schematic to do this? I thought this question was a FAQ I had run across at one point, but after scouring the Net I couldn't find an answer. thanks for your help, daniel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with Quantum Fireball 1.2G Date: 3 Apr 1997 23:19:42 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970403231900.SAA23755@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5hv7l8$a9e$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com go to www.quantum.com and make sure you have the right geometry. UPS SUN SCSI Built to order with support GSA schedule Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTD PCE SCSI card for NS 3.3 intel Date: 3 Apr 1997 23:22:48 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970403232200.SAA23970@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5henng$lpq$2@macaw.cyberport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com www.qlogic.com, or go to corel, the qlogics we have use corelscsi. UPS SUN SCSI Built to order with support GSA schedule Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.59.162.1!news.rt66.com!news.rt66.com!not-for-mail From: klingler@news.rt66.com (Dave Klingler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP SRAM simm info: anyone have some? Date: 3 Apr 1997 17:36:06 -0700 Organization: Engineering International, Inc. Lines: 20 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5i1idm$j3m$1@mack.rt66.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mack.rt66.com Hi folks. I have a Turbo Colorstation that came minus its DSP memory. I checked the faq, but there isn't anything there about it. Does anyone know anything about it? A friend of mine suggested that a standard Intel COAST module was 72 pins and might possibly have the same pinouts as the DSP simm. I don't have one myself, and haven't had the opportunity to check. If someone has the DSP simm pinouts, I could check and at least figure out whether it's possible to adapt one. The other possibility might be to take an old 1 meg 72-pin simm and change the ram on board to SRAM and jumper everything that's different (which might mean everything). I don't mind doing this either, but again, the showstopper is my lack of pinout info. Thanks for any information anyone might be able to provide! If I come up with a satisfactory solution, I'll be glad to put it in the faq. Dave Klingler klingler@rt66.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!not-for-mail From: timu@mcs.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Printer pinouts? Date: 4 Apr 1997 02:54:45 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5i1qhl$8t9$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: timu.pr.mcs.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I just got a NeXT laser printer... minus the cable. Does anyone know the pinouts for the cable? Is it just a straight thru 9 pin, or are there some crossed wires in there. Thanks, Tim Urquhart timu@mcs.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!ISL.Stanford.EDU!park From: park@ISL.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Black Printer for PC ? Date: 4 Apr 1997 02:38:36 GMT Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5i1pjc$3es$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: isl.stanford.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] Hello. Is it possible to use original 400dpi NeXT black printer on IBM PC running Windows95/Linux ? Currently, black Cube running samba is being used as the printer server for Win95, but I want to directly connect the printer to PC. Any help would be appreciated. --- Sang Ju Park #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Printer pinouts? Date: 4 Apr 1997 04:40:34 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5i20o2$7ri$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <5i1qhl$8t9$1@nntp1.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu In article <5i1qhl$8t9$1@nntp1.mcs.net>, wrote: >I just got a NeXT laser printer... minus the cable. >Does anyone know the pinouts for the cable? >Is it just a straight thru 9 pin, or are there some crossed wires in there. It is a DB9M to DB9M straight thru pin-to-pin connection. As a matter of fact, one of my NeXT printer use the cable that goes with a VGA-Keyboard-Mouse switch box. I use the 9-pin cable (male-male). This cable is shorter than the original black cable, but it works fine (other than the color is white ;) Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!171.69.2.138!usenet.cisco.com!usenet From: Scott Mewett Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: how to open a soundbox? Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 19:02:59 -0800 Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33446F63.314C@cisco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-e-36-83.cisco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-CISCOENG (WinNT; I) Hello All. I would like to repaint the front cover on my sound box. Does anyone know how to open the sound box without wrecking it. Any Suggestions. Thanks Scott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!main.Germany.EU.net!news-reader.Dortmund.Germany.EU.net!not-for-mail From: Dirk Ertner Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster AWE 64 or AWE 32 and NSFIP (PLEASE READ) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 00:18:14 +0200 Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3342DB26.2521@brumfundel.b.eunet.de> References: <3338EEF4.2DA4@erols.com> <01bc3b95$62e25fe0$42ca92cf@default> <5hqh7g$r8k$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Reply-To: vincent@brumfundel.b.eunet.de NNTP-Posting-Host: brumfundel.b.eunet.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) To: Dirk Schwarzhans > On my Intel system the SB AWE 32 PnP works without problems now! > You need the newest EISA-Driver (because of PnP-Support) and the > newest SB-16-Driver available from NeXTanswers. Naja, ich dachte so geht's auch ... EISABus 3.31, SB16 3.34 ... leider gefehlt; muß man noch irgendwas eintragen? Oder vielleicht doch EISA 3.35 beta installieren? Um sicherzustellen, ob das funktioniert überprüfe ich immer die Preferences (Systemklänge); Hast Du eine bessere Idee? Ciao und Danke Vince (Antwort bitte per mail, da ich nicht so oft in die NewsGroup schau') #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!170.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstation color Soundbox, mouse, monitor cable Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 09:11:00 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <33439DBF.50339329@dnaco.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.50.170 > > Does anyone know where I can find the missing parts? Try one of the following: www.orb.com www.deepspacetech.com Rob Blessin at bhi1@ix.netcom.com James Mooseman at mooseman@interpath.com (I think. Help me out guys.) > > Even if you don't know, can you help this NeXT ignoramus > with a description of the soundbox? Basically, it's a black metal wedge about 8 inches on a side and contains a speaker and microphone and you plug the keyboard into it. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!usenet From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black: Mono monitor cable, DB19? Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 02:33:51 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 36 Message-ID: <3344AECC.6B95@wam.umd.edu> References: <5i18hk$mne@googoo.cs.umd.edu> Reply-To: dutky@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: annex12-31.dial.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Daniel F. Savarese wrote: > > I have a 25MHz NeXTstation with an N4000A MegaPixel monitor but > no monitor cable. I know there are a couple of places from which > I can order an original NeXT cable, but the prices are kind of > ludicrous given the meager sum i paid for the machine itself. > > In any case, I am wondering what exact kind of cable would be > suitable to use for the monitor. Is any DB19 (male at both ends) > cable adequate? If I can't find a DB19 cable (they seem rather > rare), can I use an RS-232 DB25 and cut off some pins? If so, > where can I find a schematic to do this? > I wouldn't try using an unshielded cable for this since it would create a LOT of RF radiation (your neighbors wouldn't be too fond of you for screwing up their TV reception) and the video signal would be seriously degraded as a result (expect a lot of bluring of the picture). The effects might not be TOO bad if the cable were REALLY short, but still. You could try making the cable yourself but I'd bet it would cost about as much as the real thing ($20 from Deepspace Tech ) especially once you counted in your own time and effort. Of course, I notice that you are from UMD, you could just go by Terrapin Traders and buy one of the spare monitors they have there, I think they might come with the cable. (Terrapin Traders is in the central receiving building across Rt. 1 from North gate. Out behind the Greenhouses and the motorpool, across from the fire-science tower. They're open Tue-Fri from 10:00 am till 3:00 pm. They have LOTS of great deals on all sorts of stuff that has been surplussed by the University) - Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!192.108.254.29!nntp.teleport.com!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: Arthur Ogawa Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Specs/pinout for N4006 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 02:00:46 -0800 Organization: TeX Consultants Lines: 19 Sender: -yp- @ppp4048.stk.inreach.net Message-ID: <3344D13F.7941@teleport.com> Reply-To: Ogawa@teleport.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp4048.stk.inreach.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) I have a N4006 monitor on my color turbo NeXTStation that I would like to hook up to a Macintosh or Wintel box occasionally. So I need the pinout of the connector (it has three coax sockets along with a number of other pins in a D-shell connector) and if possible a source for the mating connector. And I'd like to know the specifications of this monitor (by all appearances a Sony Trinitron 17-inch). Any help would be appreciated. -- Arthur Ogawa/TeX Consultants voice: +1 209 561-4585 Fax: +1 209 561-4584 emailto://ogawa@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~ogawa ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/ogawa PGP key: finger -l ogawa@teleport.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!wendy.mad.servicom.es!news From: Jesus Izquierdo Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 100Mbps Network Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 15:16:32 +0100 Organization: KROP Audiovisual Systems Lines: 19 Message-ID: <334118C0.2C2C@mad.servicom.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-mad-135.inf.servicom.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Somebody has any experience in setting up a 100Mbps network with Next? We have installed one but it doesn't perform as expected, just similar to a 10Mbps network. I would appreciate help on that. Regards: Jesus M. Izquierdo KROP Audiovisual Systems Avenida de Galapagar, 15 Torrejon de Ardoz 28850 Madrid, SPAIN Tel: 34 1 6779774 Fax: 34 1 6778279 E-mail: 72332.3705@compuserve.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!GIMLI.genias.de!dali!news From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: SoundBlaster AWE 64 or AWE 32 and NSFIP (PLEASE READ) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: franquin Message-ID: Sender: news@onevision.de Reply-To: robert@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <01bc3b95$62e25fe0$42ca92cf@default> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:45:18 GMT Lines: 33 In article <01bc3b95$62e25fe0$42ca92cf@default> "Christian Jensen" writes: > I tried the NS SB16 driver, both versions, on my Intel system, which has a > SB AWE 32 PnP card. Neither driver worked for me. > > I, too, would be interested in tips to make this card work with NS FIP 3.3. > > > Does anyone know if either the Creative Labs SoundBlaster AWE 32 or > > the SoundBlaster AWE 64 will work under NSFIP?? Has anyone done > > this?? Hi there, this is what I did to make my SB32PnP card work: First of all, you'll need the latest EISABus (v3.35) and SoundBlaster16 (v3.33 / 3.34) drivers. I am not sure where to get them, perhaps from the Peanuts Archive or via NextAnswers. The EISABus as well as the SoundBlaster16 driver now support the needed PnP features. Install both drivers via Configure (use the SoundBlaster16PnP driver) and reboot your machine. If all's well already, you needn't do the following: Then open /usr/Devices/EISABus.config, execute PnPDump and look for the line that shows you the Id. This Id is used to detect the card. Replace the Auto Detect ID-value in /usr/Devices/SoundBlaster16.config/Instance0.table. Reboot your machine and good luck. ========================================================================= Robert Wunderer OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ========================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!yale!oitnews.harvard.edu!infobhan.med.harvard.edu!user From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will this CD-ROM drive work w/NeXTCube? Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 08:22:22 -0500 Organization: Harvard Medical School Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: infobhan.med.harvard.edu I'm looking to get an external CD-ROM drive for use with a NeXT Cube. Someone has offered me a Sony external 4X SCSI CD-ROM, model PJ0036933. Does anyone know if this will work? -- Ishir Bhan Harvard Medical School '00 ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!wesley.videotron.net!wagner.spc.videotron.ca!not-for-mail From: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with Quantum Fireball 1.2G Date: 3 Apr 1997 03:20:08 GMT Organization: SPC Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5hv7l8$a9e$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: term4-modem51.9bit.qc.ca X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Hi there, I'm embarrassed: I can't even install OS4.1 on one of the most popular drive on csn*, a Quantum Fireball 1.2G... 8^( The Workspace correctly initialized it but BuildDisk quits while copying files; this can be found on the Console: sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x0, resid = 0x800, retry 9 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x0, resid = 0x800, retry 1 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x0, resid = 0x800, retry 2 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x0, resid = 0x800, retry 3 /private/tmp/BD441157: Device busy rotational delay between contiguous blocks changes from 0ms to 4ms BuildDisk[240]: Attempt to remove unrecognized exception handler. Should I set a jumper to disable synchronous mode? Merci! Ray -- Raymond Lutz - lutzray-at-9bit.qc.ca - www.9bit.qc.ca/~lutzray - "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DOSFileSysPatch--any alternative for NS3.1? Date: 3 Apr 1997 04:19:21 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 17 Message-ID: <19970403041900.XAA29372@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Darn that expiration date on the free upgrade offer which came in my NS 3.1 box! (which I acquired long after the expiration date I should add). I'm slowly puzzling out how to get Christian Starkjohann's Rumba to work--so I've got a work-around (access the Zipdrive over a network) but would like another option. I've saved the MTOOLS message though, and if I ever pass one of my classes in C, will take a look at it. Thanks! William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.urz.tu-dresden.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!138.95.18.2!wilbur.sequent.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Monitors and exrtra motherboards Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 11:55:25 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5i0qb3$ien$1@io.farallon.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Mike Carter In-Reply-To: <5i0qb3$ien$1@io.farallon.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat You can get the instructions on how to clean it at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/MagOpticalDrive.FAQ.gz I only pass along this info, not stand behind it and say it will work. I didn't write it and I've never done it and as many other disclaimers as you need. TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ins.net!amg.de!postmaster From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Faxing-Problem Date: 4 Apr 1997 08:54:45 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5i2fkl$41@hagen.amg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: down.amg.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi there again, I got a problem with my modem used as a fax: I have got a 'Dr. Neuhaus Cybermod 28800' installed as a HSD FaxModem in the PrinterManager. When I want to send a fax, the modem dials the phone-number, I hear that the other fax is responding (you know these strange sounds...;-)), but it does not send anything, I think, because the LED's for sending or receiving to not flash, only the LED for connection and on-line is flashed out. What am I doing wrong ?? Thanks, Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which HDs work in 25MHz mono-slab Date: 3 Apr 1997 23:20:55 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970403232000.SAA23837@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5hrug6$7iu@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com we have st 1480n for $80 each, used but quiet and working. 90 day warranty UPS SUN SCSI Built to order with support GSA schedule Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.radio.cz!CESspool!nntp.uio.no!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk!news From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faxing-Problem Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 19:46:47 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1997Apr4.194647.2259@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <5i2fkl$41@hagen.amg.de> X-Mail2News-User: news@seer.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: griffin.plsys.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Lines: 18 In <5i2fkl$41@hagen.amg.de> Martin Mocker wrote: > I got a problem with my modem used as a fax: > > I have got a 'Dr. Neuhaus Cybermod 28800' installed as a HSD FaxModem in the > PrinterManager. That's the problem, right there. Your modem isn't an HSD facmodem, and is rather unlikely to follow the same, 1990 version of the class 2 protocol. Get NXFax (or use one of the free fax drivers) and hope that it works with your modem. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.71.77.3!vyzynz!inquo!news.mira.net.au!news.netspace.net.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.access.net.au!news.teragen.com.au!cantor.edge.net.au!news.apana.org.au!not-for-mail From: David Green Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Recommendation for PCI Video card Date: 5 Apr 1997 02:51:17 GMT Organization: Australian Public Access Network Association Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5i4en5$eeb$1@hock.apana.org.au> Reply-To: david@legion.apana.org.au NNTP-Posting-Host: legion.apana.org.au Organisation: Sargood Manor X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-10008-01 People, I have bitten the bullet today and purchased a replacement motherboard for my aging Intel 486/66. I have a Gigabyte Triton II HX PCI motherboard with a whole bunch of modern bells and whistles. My question is: What is the best comprimise between power and price in the PCI video card market? Ideally, I'd probably go for a Matrox Millenium 4Mb, but at around A$500 I'd like something more affordable right now. Please let me know what your experiences have been. Regards. -- David Green | Tel: +61 3 9827-6283 | david@legion.apana.org.au Melbourne, Australia| Fax: +61 3 9827-5876 | (NeXTMail & MIME accepted) PGP key from: pgp-public-keys@sw.oz.au ----------------------------------------------------------------------- What opinions? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!news.dkrz.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!nntp1.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news From: "Athanasios Sideris" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with 17" NeXT Megapixel Color monitor Date: 5 Apr 1997 02:51:21 GMT Organization: University of California Lines: 22 Message-ID: <01bc416c$3b390fc0$12c5d783@psaltis-ppp.caltech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: psaltis-ppp.caltech.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 I have had the following problem with my NeXT monitor (17" MegaPixel Color) since I bought it new in 1991: sometimes it would not turn on unless I pushed the switch several times; some other times the picture would disappear all of a sudden. A couple of days ago this problem became so bad that I can turn on the monitor anymore. At first I suspected that the problem is with the switch but after I tested it, the switch seems to be fine. (There are two pairs of wires coming to the switch, a blue pair on one side and a brown pair on the other... when the switch is in the on position the blue wires connect together as well as the brown ones---I am assuming that this is the correct function of the switch). I would appreciate if someone that has more insight into this can give me any pointers as to what to do. Can you suggest where I can have my monitor fixed? A repair facility in the Los Angeles area would be much preferred. Can I still find parts for it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please respond by email to: sideris@euclid.eng.uci.edu Many thanks in advance. Thanasis Sideris UCI #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!news From: alcmaeon@one.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adding New Drive Date: 5 Apr 1997 03:02:30 GMT Organization: OneNet Communications HUB News Server Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5i4fc6$ssg@news.one.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-18-3.access.one.net X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .11] I'm having a problem here. I added a new Quantum Fireball 1.2 to my Cube, did a build disk, no problem loads up just fine as a secondary drive. I would now like to make it the primary boot drive. i ahve done everything I can figure and cannot get it to boot. The machine will always default to the old drive. I have changed the ROM Monitor settings so that the machine will boot from the second device, which is the new drive and not the first device (the old drive). All to no avail. Does this have something to do with the NetInfo DB? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.hk.net!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: gcasamen@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Matrox Millenium (BLACK SCREEN ON BOOT) Date: 5 Apr 1997 04:47:50 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 34 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5i4lhm$bhl@boursy.news.erols.com> Reply-To: gcasamen@erols.com NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-tnt-1s15.erols.com X-Received-On: 5 Apr 1997 04:47:50 GMT Keywords: Matrox NeXTSTEP blank Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28177 comp.sys.next.misc:25475 The above address is not correct, please send replies to gcasamen@erols.com.... thanks. Hi, I am having the following problem. I own a Matrox Millenium video card. Recently upon booting up the machine I have been experiencingoccasions when the login screen will not come up and the monitor remainsdark. One of the lights on the front of the monitor flashes as ifit is not recieving a signal. I have no idea what might be causing this. I (unfortunately) also have Windows 95 on my machine and I have never had any problems with the display coming up with it. The "Boot Graphics" option is set to "Yes" currently. I am going to try setting it to "No" to see if that makes a difference. What confuses me the most is that this is only an occasional problem. My System is configured as follows: P200 w/ 512kb cache and 32MB RAM Matrox Millenium w/ 4MB WRAM SoundBlaster 16 (non-PnP) 33.6 KBps US Robotics Modem 1.6GB EIDE Hard Disk Drive 8x Mitsumi ATAPI compliant CD-ROM CTX 17" Monitor .25 dot pitch (max res 1600x1200) usually runs at 1280x1024 w/65536 colors. Thanks in advance for any advice or help regarding this problem. Greg C. Please e-mail me back at gcasamen@erols.com, or post to this newsgroup. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: gcasamen@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Millenium (BLACK SCREEN) Date: 5 Apr 1997 04:50:02 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 34 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5i4llq$cid@boursy.news.erols.com> Reply-To: gcasamen@erols.com NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-tnt-1s15.erols.com X-Received-On: 5 Apr 1997 04:50:02 GMT Keywords: Matrox NeXTSTEP blank The above address is not correct, please send replies to gcasamen@erols.com.... thanks. Hi, I am having the following problem. I own a Matrox Millenium video card. Recently upon booting up the machine I have been experiencingoccasions when the login screen will not come up and the monitor remainsdark. One of the lights on the front of the monitor flashes as ifit is not recieving a signal. I have no idea what might be causing this. I (unfortunately) also have Windows 95 on my machine and I have never had any problems with the display coming up with it. The "Boot Graphics" option is set to "Yes" currently. I am going to try setting it to "No" to see if that makes a difference. What confuses me the most is that this is only an occasional problem. My System is configured as follows: P200 w/ 512kb cache and 32MB RAM Matrox Millenium w/ 4MB WRAM SoundBlaster 16 (non-PnP) 33.6 KBps US Robotics Modem 1.6GB EIDE Hard Disk Drive 8x Mitsumi ATAPI compliant CD-ROM CTX 17" Monitor .25 dot pitch (max res 1600x1200) usually runs at 1280x1024 w/65536 colors. Thanks in advance for any advice or help regarding this problem. Greg C. Please e-mail me back at gcasamen@erols.com, or post to this newsgroup. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: gcasamen@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Matrox Millenium (BLACK SCREEN ON BOOT) Date: 5 Apr 1997 04:47:08 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5i4lgc$b8m@boursy.news.erols.com> Reply-To: gcasamen@erols.com NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-tnt-1s15.erols.com X-Received-On: 5 Apr 1997 04:47:08 GMT Keywords: Matrox NeXTSTEP blank Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28179 comp.sys.next.misc:25479 Reply-To: gcasamen@erols.com Hi, I am having the following problem. I own a Matrox Millenium video card. Recently upon booting up the machine I have been experiencingoccasions when the login screen will not come up and the monitor remainsdark. One of the lights on the front of the monitor flashes as ifit is not recieving a signal. I have no idea what might be causing this. I (unfortunately) also have Windows 95 on my machine and I have never had any problems with the display coming up with it. The "Boot Graphics" option is set to "Yes" currently. I am going to try setting it to "No" to see if that makes a difference. What confuses me the most is that this is only an occasional problem. My System is configured as follows: P200 w/ 512kb cache and 32MB RAM Matrox Millenium w/ 4MB WRAM SoundBlaster 16 (non-PnP) 33.6 KBps US Robotics Modem 1.6GB EIDE Hard Disk Drive 8x Mitsumi ATAPI compliant CD-ROM CTX 17" Monitor .25 dot pitch (max res 1600x1200) usually runs at 1280x1024 w/65536 colors. Thanks in advance for any advice or help regarding this problem. Greg C. Please e-mail me back at gcasamen@erols.com, or post to this newsgroup. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: gcasamen@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sorry about multiple postings... Date: 5 Apr 1997 06:17:06 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5i4qp2$hcm@boursy.news.erols.com> Reply-To: gcasamen@erols.com NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-tnt-1s15.erols.com X-Received-On: 5 Apr 1997 06:17:06 GMT I apologize for my multiple postings to this and the sysadmin group. I was getting an error from newsgrazer saying "posting failed". I suppose it actually did work. Thanks for your patience. Greg C. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news.ppp.net!usenet From: Oliver König Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Hardware: Cube with ADB? Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 16:41:35 +0100 Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany Lines: 23 Message-ID: <334520E8.56CD@promo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.45.188.92 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, I´m not so familiar with Black Hardware and didn´t find any detailed infos. I got an offer for a NeXTcube and from another side a 17" Mono Monitor with ADB also from NeXT. Does anyone know if the NeXTcube with 68040/25 has a ADB connect. Are there any differences in the ROM with supporting ADB and non ADB Machines. Second question is the speed of the machine, does anyone took advantage of some kind of speed acceleration? I have heard about a card called NITRO or like that. What is the latest software release which runs on that cube with a acceptable speed without having to much trouble with bugs of betasor alpha releases. Sorry for the poor information I have, it´s a long time ago that I saw such a machine. Regards Oliver #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.228.128.70!news1.jaring.my!news2.jaring.my!rumah.pc.my!newsmaster From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: keyboard gone berserk Date: 5 Apr 1997 06:31:55 GMT Organization: Personal Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5i4rkr$5l3@rumah.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: j50.ptl31.jaring.my X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Yesterday, when I tried to log in to my slab, I had a very strange problem with 'c's. For example pressing the 'm' displayed 'mc'. Several keys had this problem, and pressing 'delete' also displayed 'c'. Then sometimes it would just start printing 'c's as if the key was stuck. It made it almost impossible to log in. I rebooted, & no change but I was able to log into a different account I have set up. Its been ok since then on all accounts. Occasionally I'll get a double strike, or key that needs to be whacked hard to print. Is my keyboard dying? Will spraying it with some electrical contact cleaner help? Awhile ago there was talk about giving the keyboard a bath. How about that? TIA. ------ Mike #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!jan From: jan@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca (Jan Sacharuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI 3D-pro Turbo drivers? Date: 6 Apr 1997 17:22:01 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5i8m3p$10r6@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: obed.cs.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Do drivers for NeXT/Openstep exist for this type of video card exist? I want to buy one, but I don't want to buy it before I know I can get a driver for it. I've looked at the ATI homepage, and through NeXTanswers, but turned up nothing. Usually, this means that it's not out there, but I'd like to know for sure. Thanks. Jan Sacharuk #################################################################### From: "Dr Max" Subject: Vds Cube dimension + deux 17" + imprim laser Message-ID: <01bc42af$d58c8f40$15fb33c2@dr-max> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 19:29:20 +0200 Lines: 2 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!news.lenet.fr ma que bella machina! ax@interpc.fr #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Anyone dealt with Tito A. Lugtu before? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 01:20:44 GMT Lines: 11 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17022 comp.sys.next.hardware:28185 Hi, I have some unfinished business with Tito A. Lugtu, an engineering PhD who lives in Daly City, California. I have sent several e-mails to his e-mail address "talugtu@slip.net", but he refused to respond. I just wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has dealt with him before, or has any information about him? The last time I could remember, he was trying to sell a NeXT system with a NeXT printer. Thanks for any help you can provide. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!super.zippo.com!zdc-e!szdc!news From: purdy@mugu.navy.mil (purdy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IrDA Date: 4 Apr 1997 19:16:32 GMT Organization: Your Organization Message-ID: <5i3k2g$q3p@lana.zippo.com> References: <5hv9q4$61s@news2.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.3 Lines: 23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:92081 comp.sys.next.hardware:28186 check out actisys - they have several types of receiver/transmitters. However, good luck using it with your Newton. David In article <5hv9q4$61s@news2.cais.com>, Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com says... > >I'd like to add an IrDA infrared receiver (or is that transceiver) to >my Intel Venus Pentium Pro system. Can someone recommend one? What >should I look for? Does it work under OPENSTEP? My understanding is >that it's just a serial port with an IR interface, n'est-ce pas? > >Thanks, >Robert > >-- >Robert La Ferla >Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant >HTI >Boston, MA - Washington, DC >+ 1 (617) 252-0088 > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!yale!oitnews.harvard.edu!purdue!lore.cs.purdue.edu!cookca From: ** Craig Cook ** Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What kind of RAM for my slab? Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 22:21:29 -0500 Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lore.cs.purdue.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi I just bought a color slab and when I turn it on I get no video. I think I might be trying the wrong kind of memory. It has 72pin slots and is a 25mHz board. 68040. What kind of ram do I need to use in it and where exactly do I put it (ie close to power supply or farthest from power supply) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!out2.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IrDA Date: 7 Apr 1997 03:56:57 GMT Organization: HTI Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5i9ra9$1uu@news2.cais.com> References: <5hv9q4$61s@news2.cais.com> <5i3k2g$q3p@lana.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.177.56.103 In-Reply-To: <5i3k2g$q3p@lana.zippo.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.newton.misc:92106 comp.sys.next.hardware:28188 Here are two IrDA devices that I've found. I ordered the ACTiSYS one. I will let everyone know if it works or not. Robert ACTiSYS Corp Tel: +1 510-490-8024, Fax:+1 510-623-7268 irda-sales@actisys.com or pda-acc-sales@actisys.com http://www.actisys.com ACT-IR2000L ¤ ACT-IR2000L: IrDA-1.0, IrDA-1.1 (1.15M - 4M bps), ASK-SIR (9.6K-19.2K bps) and TV remote control $59.99 ====================================================================== ====== Tekram Other models in the IRmate Series include the IRmate IR-410 and IR-420 Fast Infrared Adapters. These products support connection speeds of up to 4Mbps to meet the needs of today's newest IR-equipped notebook computers. The IR-410 comes with its own ISA card, whereas the IR-420 requires an Infrared Header Connector on the computer's mainboard. ƒ IR-420 Fast IR Adapter supports speeds up to 4Mbps and requires an IR Header Connector on the mainboard ƒ Effective range: 1 Meter http://www.tekram.com/ -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: how to open a soundbox? Date: 5 Apr 1997 16:23:23 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5i5u9s$sui@news.next.com> References: <33446F63.314C@cisco.com> Reply-To: joe_keenan@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: barley.next.com In article <33446F63.314C@cisco.com> Scott Mewett writes: > Hello All. > > I would like to repaint the front cover on my sound box. Does anyone > know how to open the sound box without wrecking it. The screws holding the base on are under the stick-on rubber feet on the bottom. Peel back the feet and undo the screws. I think it takes the same hex wrench as the cube back, but it's been a long time since I did that and I'm not positive. joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!bingnews.binghamton.edu!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New 120Mb floppy drives? Date: 3 Apr 1997 00:47:56 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5huuns$rbu@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5hu22m$pkq@news3.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) John Kheit wrote: > Has anyone gotten those new 120Mb floppy drives? They can read > and write old 3.5" 720k and 1.44Mb floppies, BUT can also read > and write to 120Mb on special floppies that go for about 20bux > each (it's supposed to be 5X the speed of a normal floppy). Personally I think it's too late for these floppy drives, unless it's noticably faster or more reliable than ZIP drives. My guess is that it will take awhile to find that out, and by then everyone will have ZIP drives anyway. If distributed software is handled via the internet or CD-ROM, and you have a ZIP drive, there may be little reason to have any floppy drive. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? References: <5gsqnp$boo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <33322DCC.A93@mysolution.com> From: Darren Reely X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) NNTP-Posting-Host: yvr-ppp-54.cyberstore.ca Message-ID: <3346b5ae.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 5 Apr 97 20:27:26 GMT Lines: 13 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!scipio.cyberstore.ca!yvr-ppp-54.cyberstore.ca Tommy Hwang wrote: >to use higher speed modem connection(s)... The serial port on the NeXT >cube and stations can only handle up to 38,400bps... Even my laptop tops >that. If the turbo-station or cube systems have serial ports that can >handle X2 speed over voice ISDN channels (56K upload & 56K download in >"host mode" confirmed on my laptop), Please tell me immediately - so I >can buy one NOW. I've set my NextStation to 56K for PPP connections. Of course the modem to modem connection is only 28K. I don't have a X2 modem. To new and currently not supported by my ISP. Darren #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.ttu.edu!usenet From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT printer and WIN95 Date: 7 Apr 1997 16:16:47 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5ib6lf$11q@ttacs7.ttu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28192 comp.sys.next.misc:25494 i have a NeXT Turbo station and another computer running win95 and i am planning to buy me a NeXT printer. is there any way to get win95 to print on the NeXT printer? any pointers would be appreciated. thanks in advance. hs. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.space.net!news.cube.net!not-for-mail From: werner@ip.cubenet.de (Dr. Werner Eberl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT printer and WIN95 Date: 7 Apr 1997 18:49:37 GMT Organization: CUBENet Munich Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5ibfk1$2dj$1@salyko.cube.net> References: <5ib6lf$11q@ttacs7.ttu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: success1.ip.cubenet.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28193 comp.sys.next.misc:25495 seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu wrote: >i have a NeXT Turbo station and another computer running win95 and i am >planning to buy me a NeXT printer. is there any way to get win95 to print >on the NeXT printer? > >any pointers would be appreciated. > >thanks in advance. > >hs. I have the same hardware configuration with both color and laser printer connected to my NeXT. I installed samba on the NeXT and used the Kodak printer driver on W95. It works really great. I also can access my NeXT files from W95. Have fun with samba, Werner #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: stefan.boehringer@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: S3Virge black screen problem Date: 7 Apr 1997 19:36:29 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5ibibt$nfp$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialppp-1-189.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hello all, using a DiamondStealth3D2000 under NS3.3 I experience the black screen when switching to vga mode syndrome. I tried the "Boot Graphics"=No and "Shutdown graphics"=No work around. However while shutting down is now working the boot process still sucks. Since the console which shows up with "Boot Graphics"=No is also in vga mode I wonder how this worked to others. Has anybody experienced this on S3Virge as well? Even better- is a workaround known? Thank you very much. Best wishes, Stefan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: stefan.boehringer@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NE2000 installation Date: 7 Apr 1997 19:36:11 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5ibibb$nfn$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialppp-1-189.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hello all, first of all I know that better cards are available to use with NextStep - I have to get this work though. I'm at the point that the NEx000 driver installed and recognized the card. While starting up I see the message: NE2000 timeout occured, pushing next packet this repeats 3 times in the course of starting up. After that I login root and ping the local IP which works without problems. With SNS I set up the machine as NI-master. However a MonoStation set up to receive it's information from the server can't see it on the network. Also pinging doesn't work in either direction. Thank you very much for any hints. Best wishes, Stefan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!transfer.stratus.com!usenet From: cdodson@cac.stratus.com***(Craig Dodson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupts... help Date: 7 Apr 1997 19:32:29 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5ibi4d$i6d@transfer.stratus.com> References: <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: vortex.cac.stratus.com In article <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca (Doug Booth) writes: > I have an old pizza box NeXT which has recently started to hang itself. > The machine has 32 MB of RAM and is running 3.3 > Looking in the system messages the following appear.... > > machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110 > machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110 > > occasionally this one also shows up: > machine-name mach: en0: transmitter not ready > > I had an another machine and swapped the hard-disk and memory to it thinking > the problem may be on the motherboard. The same errors appeared. > > Could this be a memory chip problem or is it a corrupted system or ....???? > Any ideas would be welcome. These errors (if memory serves) were usually the NeXT's way of telling you all is not well on the network. Now whether these indicate excess traffic, broadcasts, physical errors, etc, I can't say for sure. Better get out the sniffer and see what's going on with your enet. Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) cdodson@cac.stratus.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: rencsok@channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding New Drive Date: 7 Apr 1997 21:31:28 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 31 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5ibp3g$env$4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5i4fc6$ssg@news.one.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: alcmaeon@one.net In <5i4fc6$ssg@news.one.net> alcmaeon@one.net wrote: > I'm having a problem here. I added a new Quantum Fireball 1.2 to my Cube, did a build disk, no problem loads up just fine as a secondary drive. I would now like to make it the primary boot drive. i ahve done everything I can figure and cannot get it to boot. The machine will always default to the old drive. I have changed the ROM Monitor settings so that the machine will boot from the second device, which is the new drive and not the first device (the old drive). All to no avail. Does this have something to do with the NetInfo DB? > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Mitch You need to set the SCSI ID number of the new boot drive (Quantum) to 0 or 1 and the old boot drive to something higher. I prefer to set the boot drive to ID 1 (especially if it's internal) and all other devices higher than 1 since if for any reason I need to boot off another drive I can just set the ID to 0 (I use a MO drive for this purpose) attach it to the bus and boot away. Black hardware (depending on how you have the PROM parameters set) will try to boot off the lowest SCSI ID. Randy rencsok@channelu.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT printer and WIN95 Date: 7 Apr 1997 22:42:21 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5ibt8d$lml$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <5ib6lf$11q@ttacs7.ttu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28198 comp.sys.next.misc:25496 In article <5ib6lf$11q@ttacs7.ttu.edu>, wrote: >i have a NeXT Turbo station and another computer running win95 and i am >planning to buy me a NeXT printer. is there any way to get win95 to print >on the NeXT printer? > What I did: - install Samba on NeXT - browse on the Windows Explorer in W95, you'll see your NeXT hostname over there, - click on the NeXT laser printer, attach as a 'Apple LaserWriter NT' (I just happened to click on that particular model ;) - do a test print from W95, just to make sure ;) Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu paulus@ttu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!psinntp!interramp.com!usenet From: Atindra Chaturvedi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 20:03:22 +0000 Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Lines: 32 Message-ID: <3346B003.7E6A@interramp.com> References: <5gsqnp$boo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <33322DCC.A93@mysolution.com> <3346b5ae.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Reply-To: usb00378@interramp.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.14.56.140 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Darren Reely wrote: > > Tommy Hwang wrote: > >to use higher speed modem connection(s)... The serial port on the NeXT > >cube and stations can only handle up to 38,400bps... Even my laptop tops > >that. If the turbo-station or cube systems have serial ports that can > >handle X2 speed over voice ISDN channels (56K upload & 56K download in > >"host mode" confirmed on my laptop), Please tell me immediately - so I > >can buy one NOW. > > I've set my NextStation to 56K for PPP connections. Of course the modem to > modem connection is only 28K. I don't have a X2 modem. To new and currently > not supported by my ISP. > > Darren One way around it is to use an ISDN router like an Ascend Pipeline 25 Px which hooks into ethernet (cost approx $400). This will let you use all the NeXT cpu for processing, with the Ascend dial on demand/ISDN which takes 2 seconds to connect, running PPP/Multilink PPP upto 128Kb onboard. Nice, clean and simple for major Internet access. The Ascend also comes with a crossover Ethernet cable, so you dont need a hub or anything else, and provides dynamic PPP adressing from your ISP. I use this setup with my Mac Performa 6300CD which has 56K limit on the serial port as well. Atindra. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!171.69.2.138!usenet.cisco.com!usenet From: Scott Mewett Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT printer and WIN95 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 17:59:29 -0700 Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33499871.A05@cisco.com> References: <5ib6lf$11q@ttacs7.ttu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-e-36-83.cisco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-CISCOENG (WinNT; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28200 comp.sys.next.misc:25499 seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu wrote: > > i have a NeXT Turbo station and another computer running win95 and i am > planning to buy me a NeXT printer. is there any way to get win95 to print > on the NeXT printer? > > any pointers would be appreciated. > > thanks in advance. > > hs. I use samba. Works great but takes a little to get configured. You run it on your nextstation and it makes your next look like a windows server. You can share files and printers. Use that with the driver that adobe makes for the NeXT printer. Driver information available at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/326e.htm I think samba is somewhere on one of the ftp sites around. Scott #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Black Hardware: Cube with ADB? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 02:30:15 GMT References: <334520E8.56CD@promo.de> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 35 In article <334520E8.56CD@promo.de>, Oliver Kvnig wrote: >Hi, > >I4m not so familiar with Black Hardware and didn4t find any detailed >infos. >I got an offer for a NeXTcube and from another side a 17" Mono Monitor >with ADB also from NeXT. >Does anyone know if the NeXTcube with 68040/25 has a ADB connect. Are >there any differences in the ROM with supporting ADB and non ADB >Machines. > Boards that do not use the Turbo chipset cannot handle ADB. >Second question is the speed of the machine, does anyone took advantage >of some kind of speed acceleration? I have heard about a card called >NITRO or like that. > The Nitro board only works in Turbo machines. There's something called the Pyro that works in (some) 25MHz machines, but I've never seen one. >What is the latest software release which runs on that cube with a >acceptable speed without having to much trouble with bugs of betasor >alpha releases. > I run 3.2 and am happy. Many run 3.3 and are happy. Some run 4.x and are happy. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uniserve!van-bc!ott.istar!istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <7486859698032@digifix.com> Date: 6 Apr 1997 05:00:24 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <28108860302827@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:63001 comp.sys.next.announce:4128 comp.sys.next.hardware:28202 comp.sys.next.software:28981 comp.sys.next.misc:25502 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26211 comp.sys.next.bugs:4251 comp.sys.next.programmer:23979 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium (BLACK SCREEN ON BOOT) Date: 7 Apr 1997 21:27:20 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 53 Message-ID: <5icae8$of2$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <5i4lhm$bhl@boursy.news.erols.com> <5i94n9$p1b@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.mcs.net When I used a CTX 1785GMe monitor with a Matrox Millenium, I would occasionally experience the black screen phenomenon, which never occurred in W95. Since the CTX didn't support high refresh rates very well under NEXTSTEP I just replaced it with an Apple Multiple Scan 20 instead, which has never given me the black screen problem, and looks much better in general at 1280x1024. When I had the CTX attached, I could sometimes get the picture back by cold-booting the machine. I always boot with -v, so I can't verify Dr Rao's workaround, though it certainly would be a good tack to try. It may be that the CTX is marginal at certain refresh rates. I am not planning to buy another CTX monitor. Oddly enough, when I moved the CTX to a dedicated W95 machine, it came up at 118X x 8XX without being so shimmery or dim, though in every other 1024+ horizontal resolution it was shimmery or dim. rao@supermod.egr.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) writes: >I am having the exact same problems. In my case, the problem seems to go >away when I reboot without the -v option, i.e., with graphics on. However, >on many (but not all) occasions when I boot with -v option, everything >goes fine until I expect to see the login window but instead see all >black, with my Nanao monitor apparently in a state indicating that there >is no incoming video signal from the card. >What is going on? >In article <5i4lhm$bhl@boursy.news.erols.com> gcasamen@erols.com writes: >> Hi, I am having the following problem. I own a Matrox Millenium >> video card. Recently upon booting up the machine I have been >> experiencingoccasions when the login screen will not come up and the >> monitor remainsdark. One of the lights on the front of the monitor >> flashes as ifit is not recieving a signal. I have no idea what might be >> causing this. >> >> I (unfortunately) also have Windows 95 on my machine and I have never >> had any problems with the display coming up with it. The "Boot >> Graphics" option is set to "Yes" currently. I am going to try setting >> it to "No" to see if that makes a difference. What confuses me the most >> is that this is only an occasional problem. >> >> My System is configured as follows: >> >> P200 w/ 512kb cache and 32MB RAM >> Matrox Millenium w/ 4MB WRAM >> SoundBlaster 16 (non-PnP) >> 33.6 KBps US Robotics Modem >> 1.6GB EIDE Hard Disk Drive >> 8x Mitsumi ATAPI compliant CD-ROM >> CTX 17" Monitor .25 dot pitch (max res 1600x1200) >> usually runs at 1280x1024 w/65536 colors. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!worldnet.att.net!news.alt.net!newspost1.alt.net!usenet From: anon@anon.com (anon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Why does a 3.3 PCI Video Driver Work On 3.2? Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 07:24:20 GMT Organization: IPGKiller Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3349f067.3234218@news.alt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 X-No-Archive: yes Although these groups haven't been a furious cauldron of activity lately, I thought I might as well ask anyway. I'm running 3.2 on a Pentium with PCI. Although everyone has always said 3.3 drivers will not work under 3.2 the generic S3 (3.3) certainly does. This begs the obvious question -- WHY? I've also messed around a bit with other drivers (serial port stuff) with incomplete success (ie. not complete failure). Comments, suggestions, etc. please. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!flop.schwaben.de!news From: hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Re: Why does a 3.3 PCI Video Driver Work On 3.2? X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Sender: news@flop.schwaben.de Organization: NeXT Ghetto People feat. St.Eve Message-ID: References: <3349f067.3234218@news.alt.net> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: flop Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 11:49:26 GMT Lines: 22 anon wrote: > Although these groups haven't been a furious cauldron of activity > lately, I thought I might as well ask anyway. I'm running 3.2 on a > Pentium with PCI. Although everyone has always said 3.3 drivers will > not work under 3.2 the generic S3 (3.3) certainly does. This begs the > obvious question -- WHY? The 3.2 DriverKit didn't support PCI interrupts - graphics drivers don't need PCI interrupts (they're 'dumb' devices under NS). > I've also messed around a bit with other drivers (serial port stuff) > with incomplete success (ie. not complete failure). Comments, > suggestions, etc. please. Even if you can get the driver to load, as soon as you hit something 3.3-specific, like the new interrupt handling, problems are likely to occur. Holger -- hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM LOAD "MACH_KERNEL",8,1 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!uucp5.uu.net!swissbank!borad From: borad@oca.com (Donald Bora) Subject: SCSI Zip drive woes Message-ID: <1997Apr8.135006.29310@il.us.swissbank.com> Followup-To: borad@il.us.swissbank.com Keywords: scsi zip drive Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Nntp-Posting-Host: ch1d568swk Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 13:50:06 GMT Lines: 27 Help! When I started this whole process I had plugged in the scsi zip drive in alone and it worked like a champ. I then tried to get it working with two internal harddrives a cdrom drive and a scsi scanner. The system refused to see the second internal hard drive or just got a scsi error. The scsi id's are all unique and the termination on everything is cool. Now, after much experimentation, I can no longer boot from my first internal hard drive and I can't even see/mount my second internal hd (all of the external scsi devices have been disconnected) and am getting the following error: BAD SUPER BLOCKS: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE..... which I have done but to no avail. Further more both sd0 and sd1 are responding with the first internal hard drive. Any clues out there???? -Don Bora #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!azure.xara.net!xara.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!info.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI Zip drive woes Date: 8 Apr 1997 16:17:42 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5idr36$9al$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <1997Apr8.135006.29310@il.us.swissbank.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vader.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) borad@oca.com (Donald Bora) wrote: >Help! > >When I started this whole process I had plugged in the scsi >zip drive in alone and it worked like a champ. > >I then tried to get it working with two internal harddrives >a cdrom drive and a scsi scanner. The system refused to see >the second internal hard drive or just got a scsi error. >The scsi id's are all unique and the termination on everything >is cool. > >Now, after much experimentation, I can no longer boot from my first >internal hard drive and I can't even see/mount my second internal hd >(all of the external scsi devices have been disconnected) and am getting >the following error: BAD SUPER BLOCKS: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG >USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE..... >which I have done but to no avail. Further more both sd0 and sd1 >are responding with the first internal hard drive. I have seen this happen if SCSI connections/disconnections were made while devices were powered up (causing disk corruption). If you always turned off the devices (including computer) before changing termination settings or attaching devices, then I'm stumped. --Ryan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.wwa.com!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupts... help Date: 8 Apr 1997 16:20:29 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5idr8d$9al$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5ibi4d$i6d@transfer.stratus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vader.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) cdodson@cac.stratus.com***(Craig Dodson) wrote: >In article <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca (Doug >Booth) writes: >> I have an old pizza box NeXT which has recently started to hang itself. >> The machine has 32 MB of RAM and is running 3.3 >> Looking in the system messages the following appear.... >> >> machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110 >> machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110 >> >> occasionally this one also shows up: >> machine-name mach: en0: transmitter not ready >> >> I had an another machine and swapped the hard-disk and memory to it thinking >> the problem may be on the motherboard. The same errors appeared. >> >> Could this be a memory chip problem or is it a corrupted system or ....???? >> Any ideas would be welcome. > >These errors (if memory serves) were usually the NeXT's way of telling you all >is not well on the network. Now whether these indicate excess traffic, >broadcasts, physical errors, etc, I can't say for sure. Better get out the >sniffer and see what's going on with your enet. > >Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) >cdodson@cac.stratus.com I've had this happen to me also. The quickest way to find out is to disconnect from the net. --RS #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!univ-lyon1.fr!newsserver.cilea.it!sirio.cineca.it!gopher From: giammarc@provincia.ravenna.it (Mario Giammarco) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cheapest ethernet card Date: 8 Apr 1997 17:56:30 GMT Organization: Cineca Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5ie0se$mea@sirio.cineca.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: a5gw4.ra.nettuno.it X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I am searching the cheapest Ethernet Card (possibly pci) that can be used on nextstep Thank You in advance for your reply, please mail them to giammarc@cs.unibo.it -- Mario Giammarco | Tel/FAX +39-545-22965 Via Calamandrei,5 | giammarc@cs.unibo.it 48022 Lugo (RA) -- ITALY | rac0043@racine.ravenna.it #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!usenet From: rao@supermod.egr.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium (BLACK SCREEN ON BOOT) Date: 6 Apr 1997 21:31:21 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 49 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5i94n9$p1b@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> References: <5i4lhm$bhl@boursy.news.erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: supermod.egr.uh.edu I am having the exact same problems. In my case, the problem seems to go away when I reboot without the -v option, i.e., with graphics on. However, on many (but not all) occasions when I boot with -v option, everything goes fine until I expect to see the login window but instead see all black, with my Nanao monitor apparently in a state indicating that there is no incoming video signal from the card. What is going on? In article <5i4lhm$bhl@boursy.news.erols.com> gcasamen@erols.com writes: > Hi, I am having the following problem. I own a Matrox Millenium > video card. Recently upon booting up the machine I have been > experiencingoccasions when the login screen will not come up and the > monitor remainsdark. One of the lights on the front of the monitor > flashes as ifit is not recieving a signal. I have no idea what might be > causing this. > > I (unfortunately) also have Windows 95 on my machine and I have never > had any problems with the display coming up with it. The "Boot > Graphics" option is set to "Yes" currently. I am going to try setting > it to "No" to see if that makes a difference. What confuses me the most > is that this is only an occasional problem. > > My System is configured as follows: > > P200 w/ 512kb cache and 32MB RAM > Matrox Millenium w/ 4MB WRAM > SoundBlaster 16 (non-PnP) > 33.6 KBps US Robotics Modem > 1.6GB EIDE Hard Disk Drive > 8x Mitsumi ATAPI compliant CD-ROM > CTX 17" Monitor .25 dot pitch (max res 1600x1200) > usually runs at 1280x1024 w/65536 colors. > > Thanks in advance for any advice or help regarding this problem. > > Greg C. > Please e-mail me back at gcasamen@erols.com, or post to this newsgroup. > -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-peer.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!news.grolier.fr!usenet From: Eric Levenez Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 GB limit before or after formatting? Date: 8 Apr 1997 18:41:58 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5ie3hm$jmc@news.grolier.fr> References: <5hv9gq$38c$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-195-214.neuilly.club-internet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26220 comp.sys.next.hardware:28211 decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) wrote: >I just got a 2.15 GB IBM UltraStar 2ES drive to run under NEXTSTEP 3.3. I know >that 3.3 has a 2 GB limit per partition. Is that a limit on the space before or >after formatting? I know that the disk will come out under 2GB after >formatting. So if the limit applies to space after formatting, I won't have any >problem or waste. But if the limit applies on space before formatting, I will >want to split off 150 MB into another partition (I'll use it for my primary >swapfile). I have a IBM 4 GB on NS 3.3. I have to make 3 partitions because the disk (after formated) has a little more than 4 GB. The two first are just below 2 GB, the last one is a little 400 MB. Here is my disktab entry : DFRSS4F|DFRSS4F-512|IBM DFRSS4F:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#4392:nt#16:ns#135:ss#512:rm#7200:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=tasha:rw=a:rw=b:\ :pa#0:sa#3997696:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#3:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#3997696:sb#3997696:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#3:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD:\ :pc#7995392:sc#811008:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#32:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\ :ic:tc=4.3BSD: -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 -------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!sun4nl!newsserv.caiw.nl!usenet From: Lorier@caiw.nl (pierre lorier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BLACK user manual Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 05:38:52 GMT Organization: CAI Westland/Kabelfoon Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3349d8a2.5568692@newsserv.caiw.nl> Reply-To: Lorier@caiw.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.178.10.193 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 I have an NeXTstation color Turbo ADB. Are there any user manuals available on the WWW / ftp. Pierre. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!news2.euro.net!news.euro.net!usenet From: Igor van Oostveen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: broken NeXTstation power supply Date: 8 Apr 1997 23:37:53 GMT Organization: err...dinges... Message-ID: <334AE6AC.5126@euronet.nl> Reply-To: igorvo@euronet.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: p001.mas.euronet.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Lines: 14 could somebody direct me to a source for NeXTstation powersupplies? NeXT part no: 1477 Sony model no: APS-21 Sony Part no: 68-1120-51 something that fits and is cheap please... Thanks in advance... Igor van Oostveen please mail to igorvo@euronet.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: broken NeXTstation power supply Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 18:41:43 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <334AE6AC.5126@euronet.nl> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Igor van Oostveen In-Reply-To: <334AE6AC.5126@euronet.nl> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat http://www.deepspacetech.com/Nexthardware.html TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.0.65.182!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!news@tiac.net From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupts... help Date: 9 Apr 1997 13:34:48 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5ig5to$f38@news-central.tiac.net> References: <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5ibi4d$i6d@transfer.stratus.com> <5idr8d$9al$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.215.178.73 In-Reply-To: <5idr8d$9al$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 On 04/08/97, Ryan Scott wrote: >cdodson@cac.stratus.com***(Craig Dodson) wrote: >>In article <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca (Doug >>Booth) writes: >>> I have an old pizza box NeXT which has recently started to hang itself. >>> The machine has 32 MB of RAM and is running 3.3 >>> Looking in the system messages the following appear.... >>> >>> machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110 >>> machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110 >>These errors (if memory serves) were usually the NeXT's way of telling you all >>is not well on the network. Now whether these indicate excess traffic, >>broadcasts, physical errors, etc, I can't say for sure. Better get out the >>sniffer and see what's going on with your enet. >> >>Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) >>cdodson@cac.stratus.com > > >I've had this happen to me also. The quickest way to find out is to disconnect >from the net. Well, this happens to me as well on a standalone machine. I thought that I should blame faulty memory (it started then I added 16 MB parity SIMMs to 4MB non-parity), but I started to doubt that. Are you guys sure the problem is with network? Aleksey #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 09:21:53 -0600 From: grimgant@kodak.com Subject: Need Nextstep 3.3 or lower for my Next Station Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,dfw.forsale Message-ID: <860595570.18168@dejanews.com> Reply-To: grimgant@kodak.com Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Apr 09 14:19:32 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 150.220.251.22 (proxyc.kodak.com) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) X-Authenticated-Sender: grimgant@kodak.com Lines: 6 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28216 comp.sys.next.software:29005 I just bought a used Next w/o OS . I would appreciate a cheap copy of NS to run, failing which I would appreciate the loan of the software to try out on my machine . -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!nordwest.pop.de!news.hamburg.pop.de!not-for-mail From: dbin@sce.de (David Binette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT printer and WIN95 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 21:55:49 GMT Organization: Satellite Communication Europe Lines: 20 Distribution: world Message-ID: <33496655.35897899@news.hamburg.pop.de> References: <5ib6lf$11q@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Reply-To: dbin@sce.de NNTP-Posting-Host: david.sce.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28217 comp.sys.next.misc:25528 On 7 Apr 1997 16:16:47 GMT, seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu wrote: >i have a NeXT Turbo station and another computer running win95 and i am >planning to buy me a NeXT printer. is there any way to get win95 to print >on the NeXT printer? > >any pointers would be appreciated. > >thanks in advance. adobe has a Win95 postscript driver for the NeXT 400dpi laser printer its free and available from their web page. -- MY DNA and genetic structure is copyright 1957-1997 David J. Binette ALL RIGHTS RESERVED unauthorised use, duplication, storage or retransmission is strictly prohibited. http://www.sce.de/~dbin */ unmatched closing comment #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 10:02:22 -0600 From: grimgant@kodak.com Subject: Newbie to NEXT needs guidance..... Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <860597804.19661@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Apr 09 14:56:44 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 150.220.251.22 (proxyc.kodak.com) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) X-Authenticated-Sender: grimgant@kodak.com Lines: 17 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28218 comp.sys.next.software:29007 Just recieved a system(mono turbo) from Mooseman. VERY pleased with packaging etc:- The system is w/o a HDD , luckily I had an IBM (ps/2) scsi HDD that I hooked up and the ROM monitor says SCSI & Extended tests OK no errors however since I have no bootable images (either on floppy or HDD) I am stuck. When (just for kicks ) I say 'b sd' it says 'sc: not complete' ?? My question is - From the above do you think the scsi HDD is recognized by the system ?? What do I do next ? (currently have a sexy Black beast on the desk but cant do a thing :) -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!transfer.stratus.com!usenet From: cdodson@cac.stratus.com***(Craig Dodson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cheapest ethernet card Date: 9 Apr 1997 15:29:25 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5igckl$dg7@transfer.stratus.com> References: <5ie0se$mea@sirio.cineca.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: vortex.cac.stratus.com In article <5ie0se$mea@sirio.cineca.it> giammarc@provincia.ravenna.it (Mario Giammarco) writes: > I am searching the cheapest Ethernet Card (possibly pci) that can be used on > nextstep > Thank You in advance for your reply, please mail them to giammarc@cs.unibo.it > Check www.next.com for compatibility and www.pricewatch.com for prices. Doesn't anyone do their own homework any more ??? Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) cdodson@cac.stratus.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!thetimes.pixel.kodak.com!news.kodak.com!newsserver.rdcs.Kodak.COM!not-for-mail From: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: does Developer also include User ?? Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 10:43:13 -0500 Organization: Eastman Kodak Company Lines: 10 Message-ID: <334BB911.7C1@why.net> Reply-To: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.98.128.69 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) As I posted earlier, I have a system w/o an OS installed. I found a NS 3.2 Dev at work, however it says NS (user) needed to install. Doesnt it include both ?? Also , can I bring my system to work, plug into ethernet TP and install over the net by placing NS CD-rom in a sun cd drive on the network >?? lastly, if there are no errors during power up (rom monitor ) does that mean it recognizes the scsi driv e (internal ) ?? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: BLACK user manual Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:46:41 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <3349d8a2.5568692@newsserv.caiw.nl> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: pierre lorier In-Reply-To: <3349d8a2.5568692@newsserv.caiw.nl> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat checkout the files on your machine in /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/ Then perhaps checkout some web pages (I happen to think mine is a good starting place ;-) for more information. Specific questions can always be posted to the appropriate news groups. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma Submissions Coordinator for PEAK Personal NeXT Page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ PEAK NeXT FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ PEAK Web Access: http://www.peak.org/next/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!sn.no!hermod.uio.no!uninett.no!news-stkh.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!cyclic.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupts... help Date: 9 Apr 1997 16:27:16 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 44 Message-ID: <5igg14$4p2$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5ibi4d$i6d@transfer.stratus.com> <5idr8d$9al$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ig5to$f38@news-central.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: vader.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) wrote: >On 04/08/97, Ryan Scott wrote: >>cdodson@cac.stratus.com***(Craig Dodson) wrote: >>>In article <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca >(Doug >>>Booth) writes: >>>> I have an old pizza box NeXT which has recently started to hang >itself. >>>> The machine has 32 MB of RAM and is running 3.3 >>>> Looking in the system messages the following appear.... >>>> >>>> machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110 >>>> machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel >0x2000110 >>>These errors (if memory serves) were usually the NeXT's way of >telling you all >>>is not well on the network. Now whether these indicate excess >traffic, >>>broadcasts, physical errors, etc, I can't say for sure. Better get >out the >>>sniffer and see what's going on with your enet. >>> >>>Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) >>>cdodson@cac.stratus.com >> >> >>I've had this happen to me also. The quickest way to find out is to >disconnect >>from the net. > > >Well, this happens to me as well on a standalone machine. I thought >that I should blame faulty memory (it started then I added 16 MB >parity SIMMs to 4MB non-parity), but I started to doubt that. Are you >guys sure the problem is with network? > >Aleksey No. I have also had a spurious DMA interrupt problem unrelated to the net. I never did find the cause... As I recall, it went away on its own. Don't figure. --Ryan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!thetimes.pixel.kodak.com!news.kodak.com!newsserver.rdcs.Kodak.COM!not-for-mail From: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what is the connector in the turbo MB center ???? Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 12:31:49 -0500 Organization: Eastman Kodak Company Lines: 2 Message-ID: <334BD285.4ED9@why.net> Reply-To: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.98.128.69 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) What is the connector (looks like a SIMM slot) in the center of a turbo mono motherboard for ? is it a DSP memory add on slot ?? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: "Eren Kotan" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 17:07:10 -0000 Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5igib1$su4@news.next.com> References: <1997Mar25.205600.792@gamelan.shnet.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: icecap.next.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Thomas Funke wrote in article <1997Mar25.205600.792@gamelan.shnet.org>... >As far I know, the P120 is considerably more slow because of some design >flaw, so you want to get a P133 ! > >You might consider a AMD K5/P133 instead of an Intel. I have it running here >under Linux and it works perfect. The K5 is said to be faster (~3-5%) than >the Intel, except for floating point arithmetic. > >Don't buy a Cyrix, these are not 100% compatible to Intel and they get hot ! I use a P120 overclocked to run at 133 MHz at home and this works beautifully. I'd advise against going with a non-Intel CPU for OPENSTEP/Mach, but AMD ones seem to work OK so far. If you want to save $ and take a chance, go for it. Regards, Eren --- Eren Kotan NeXT/Apple European Professional Services #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!btnet!btnet-feed1!BTInternet!usenet From: "Greg Noel" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Internal IDE ZIP Drive Date: 9 Apr 1997 21:06:42 GMT Organization: BT Internet Lines: 21 Message-ID: <01bc4529$bba41680$LocalHost@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-73-37-130.btinternet.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 I recently purchased a Micron MXE machine which has an internal IDE Zip drive. The boot drive is SCSI. I have a bunch of Zip disks, NS 3.3 formatted, I'd like to get the data off of them. Enabling the drive in the bios disables, of course, booting from SCSI. Can't boot, can't access the drive. I can use the drive from the NT and W95 partitions. Anyone have any idea how I can access the data on the Zip disks using the internal drive? From either DOS, Windows, or OpenStep? Finding a way to use the drive under OpenStep would be a major bonus. -- Greg Noel Linklaters & Paines gnoel@linklaters.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!sun4nl!newsserv.caiw.nl!usenet From: Lorier@caiw.nl (pierre lorier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sony monitor Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 06:12:20 GMT Organization: CAI Westland/Kabelfoon Message-ID: <334b2e57.2005499@newsserv.caiw.nl> Reply-To: Lorier@caiw.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.178.10.208 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Lines: 15 Just got my NeXTstation Color Turbo ADB and I'm experiencing the following problem with the Sony monitor. I don't have an hard disk installed yet, but using two simms to get the boot prompt /system testing going. When the monitor is on, the tube switches on and off for an brief second every 35 to 50 seconds. During the switch it makes an distinct sound, similar to the sound it makes when using the on/off power switch. The screen completely disappear and reappears during this switch. Is there some hardware malfunction with the monitor, or is there some suspens mode which is badly configured in the NeXT boot prom /settings. Pierre #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!stns.news.pipex.net!warm.news.pipex.net!pipex!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: dmcke40249@aol.com (DMcke40249) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I highly recommend DeepSpace Tech. for NeXT! Date: 9 Apr 1997 23:45:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: <19970409234300.TAA12228@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I bought a complete NeXTstation Color system from DeepSpace Technologies last week and am completely satisfied with their service. When I get good service somewhere I like to pass it along. It was the best deal I could find on the web after looking for quite some time. My machine arrived yesterday morning, four days after I ordered it by phone. It was extremely well packed and in excellent condition. They had installed a fresh copy of NS 3.3 and had checked everything out before the system was shipped. Bravo DeepSpace. Keep up the first class service! I look forward to doing business with you in the future. David McKenna #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: what is the connector in the turbo MB center ???? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 21:17:46 GMT References: <334BD285.4ED9@why.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 12 In article <334BD285.4ED9@why.net>, Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant wrote: >What is the connector (looks like a SIMM slot) in the center of a turbo >mono motherboard for ? is it a DSP memory add on slot ?? You got it right--it's the DSP memory slot. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.indigo.ie!ts11-10.dublin.indigo.ie!user From: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Slab Startup Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:22:13 GMT Organization: Paul O'Neill Designs Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts11-10.dublin.indigo.ie I have just acquired a number of NeXT turbo color workstations which surplus to requirements at a local college. Unfortunately they used to be networked, so when I turn them on it sits there waiting to connect to the ethernet (the server was a cube which I don't have). The word is that each of the machines have a full copy of the system software on on the internal hard disk. The manual says press Ctrl-Alt-Tilde to run a monitor program but this doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? Thanks, Paul. -- Paul O'Neill Designs Electronic & Software Product Development email : hponeill@indigo.ie web : http://indigo.ie/~hponeill #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Black Printer for PC ? References: <5i1pjc$3es$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> From: Darren Reely X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) NNTP-Posting-Host: yvr-ppp-65.cyberstore.ca Message-ID: <334c3efc.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 10 Apr 97 01:14:36 GMT Lines: 17 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!scipio.cyberstore.ca!yvr-ppp-65.cyberstore.ca park@ISL.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park) wrote: >Is it possible to use original 400dpi NeXT black printer >on IBM PC running Windows95/Linux ? > >Currently, black Cube running samba is being used as the >printer server for Win95, but I want to directly connect >the printer to PC. This question has been asked many times. The short answer is NO. You could probably build one if you had the right information, talent, and drive. Most people do what your doing or go with a different printer. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT printer and WIN95 References: <5ib6lf$11q@ttacs7.ttu.edu> From: Darren Reely X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) NNTP-Posting-Host: yvr-ppp-65.cyberstore.ca Message-ID: <334c47d7.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 10 Apr 97 01:52:23 GMT Lines: 18 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!scipio.cyberstore.ca!yvr-ppp-65.cyberstore.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28231 comp.sys.next.misc:25533 seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu wrote: >i have a NeXT Turbo station and another computer running win95 and i am >planning to buy me a NeXT printer. is there any way to get win95 to print >on the NeXT printer? > >any pointers would be appreciated. See my web page for one solution. http://www.bcog.org/~dreely/OpenStep/printing.html Others have suggested SAMBA. I think it gives you file sharing ability as well as printing. These solutions require an ethernet connection between the two machines. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!fido.asd.sgi.com!news From: Michael Taylor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:23:53 -0500 Organization: Alias|Wavefront Lines: 33 Message-ID: <333A9F19.41C6@aw.sgi.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: opus.tor.aw.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 processors are > selling for what looks like only $40 more than P120. > > I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for $40 it > seems worthwhile to upgrade. > > Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price diff or > was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether the diff between > P120 and P133 is significant? It's definately worth the extra money. You're not just getting a few extra Mhz on your processor, you will also get a faster bus speed which will make your whole system (cards,memory,etc.) run faster. 120Mhz = 60Mhz bus speed (120 = 2 x 60) 133Mhz = 66Mhz bus speed (133 = 2 x 66) Also, there's a good chance that you could safely overclock the 120 up to 133 just by flipping a jumper. There are a couple of motherboards coming out now that support 75Mhz bus speeds. Bus speed can be a very big performance factor. For more info, see Tom's Hardware Performance Page at: http://www.sysdoc.pair.com/ /\/\ike -- /\/\ike Taylor | Mail: mtaylor@aw.sgi.com Alias|Wavefront Toronto | Voice: (416) 362-8558 x8740 Developer, API =D--' http://reality.sgi.com/mtaylor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 23:21:43 -0600 From: dsolis@data.net.mx Subject: APEX 4.6 GB OPTICAL HARD DRIVE Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <860645494.20117@dejanews.com> Reply-To: dsolis@data.net.mx Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: dsolis@data.net.mx X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Apr 10 04:11:37 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 200.13.16.158 () X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-2 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: dsolis@data.net.mx Lines: 14 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26243 comp.sys.next.hardware:28233 Has anyone been able to format and use the PinnacleMicro Apex under NeXTStep?. It's a double-sided MO disk, and holds 2.3gig on each side. Any experience (disktab?) or comments would be appreciated by e-mail if possible. TIA David Solis dsolis@data.net.mx -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!worldnet.att.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!news.good.net!news.good.net!news.cyberport.com!not-for-mail From: cmoore@cyberport.com (cm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTD Date: 27 Mar 1997 21:07:30 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5henii$lpq$1@macaw.cyberport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm145-75.cyberport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 I need a new or used Adaptek PCI/SCSI card. does anyone have one for sale or know the best place to get a new one, for NS 3.3 ? I would like to use NeXT STEP 3.3 on my 586/133, but it will not acknowlege the presence of my QLOGIC SCSI card and i cannot find a driver for it. tia. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!main.Germany.EU.net!Dortmund.Germany.EU.net!sns-felb.debis.de!usenet From: bueckle@schelling.dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Martin Böckle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Framegrabber under NS 3.3/Intel Date: 10 Apr 1997 07:05:17 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5ii3fd$ka2@news.sns-felb.debis.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn.daimlerbenz.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Hello, I'm looking for a framegrabber solution under NS 3.3/Intel. The main criteria is the ability to transfer image sequences to main memory in real time. AFAIK there are NS 3.3 drivers for the Movie Machine and Screen Machine cards by FAST Multimedia. But due to the limited transfer rate on the ISA bus this solution seems to be inappropriate. Does anybody know about PCI framegrabbers working together with NS 3.3? There are FreeBSD and Linux drivers for the Matrox Meteor framegrabber card. Is it possible to port one of them to NS 3.3? Does anybody working on that? Any help will be appreciated. Sincerely, Martin Bueckle Martin Bueckle, Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Institute of Information Technology Department of Pattern Recognition/Text Understanding P.O. Box 2360, 89013 Ulm, Germany Phone: +49 731 505 2399 Fax: +49 731 505 4113 Email: bueckle@dbag.ulm.daimlerbenz.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Ireland.EU.net!dit.ie!usenet From: Don Ryan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can you use a NeXT monitor with a Mac? Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 13:13:02 +0100 Organization: Dublin Institute of Technology Lines: 10 Message-ID: <334CD94E.448A@dit.ie> Reply-To: dryan@dit.ie NNTP-Posting-Host: 147.252.70.35 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) Hi, I looked up the FAQ but could only find info on using non-NeXT monitors with black systems. This might be a very basic question but I've never actually seen a black system. Can NeXT monitors be used with Macintosh systems? Specifically I would like to know if the 17" Sony or (more importantly) the 21" Hitachi can be used? Is converter cabling/circuitry required? Thanks, Don Ryan. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.71.0.61!newsfeed.internetmci.com!argos.tel.hr!news From: Danko Ferdebar Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupts... help Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:45:59 +0200 Organization: FS d.o.o. Lines: 71 Distribution: world Message-ID: <334CEF11.6668@zg.tel.hr> References: <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5ibi4d$i6d@transfer.stratus.com> <5idr8d$9al$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ig5to$f38@news-central.tiac.net> <5igg14$4p2$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ac31-p2-zg.tel.hr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Ryan Scott wrote: > > zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) wrote: > >On 04/08/97, Ryan Scott wrote: > >>cdodson@cac.stratus.com***(Craig Dodson) wrote: > >>>In article <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca > >(Doug > >>>Booth) writes: > >>>> I have an old pizza box NeXT which has recently started to hang > >itself. > >>>> The machine has 32 MB of RAM and is running 3.3 > >>>> Looking in the system messages the following appear.... > >>>> > >>>> machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110 > >>>> machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel > >0x2000110 > >>>These errors (if memory serves) were usually the NeXT's way of > >telling you all > >>>is not well on the network. Now whether these indicate excess > >traffic, > >>>broadcasts, physical errors, etc, I can't say for sure. Better get > >out the > >>>sniffer and see what's going on with your enet. > >>> > >>>Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) > >>>cdodson@cac.stratus.com > >> > >> > >>I've had this happen to me also. The quickest way to find out is to > >disconnect > >>from the net. > > > > > >Well, this happens to me as well on a standalone machine. I thought > >that I should blame faulty memory (it started then I added 16 MB > >parity SIMMs to 4MB non-parity), but I started to doubt that. Are you > >guys sure the problem is with network? > > > >Aleksey > > No. I have also had a spurious DMA interrupt problem unrelated to the > net. I never did find the cause... As I recall, it went away on its > own. Don't figure. > > --Ryan > The same problem is also with my NeXTstation. I started with NextStep 3.0, 16MB RAM and 400MB hard. Later I upgrade it to OpenStep 4.1. After upgrade the problems start. My NeXTstation with OpenStep 4.1 isn't on the net. Message is "spurious DMA interrupt :channel 0x2000110" And it is repeated several times until system hangs. If I switch back to NextStep 3.0 everything is OK. I tryed with another memory and hard disk but always is the same problem. Now I usually use following procedure: - after power on boot to single user mode - leave it for a few minutes - logout and start multi-user mode - restart and go back to single-user mode - leave it for a 15 minutes - logout and start multi user mode I don't have statistics on hangs now, but it seems that helps. I have spent lots of time playing with rc script but didn't help. What is channel 0x2000110? Danko #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sony monitor Date: 10 Apr 1997 15:11:43 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5iivvf$2lqm@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <334b2e57.2005499@newsserv.caiw.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) >Just got my NeXTstation Color Turbo ADB and I'm experiencing the >following problem with the Sony monitor. Unlike the mono MegaPixels, NeXT's color monitors cannot be turned on or off by the CPU. It could be something connected with dimming the monitor (which can be done from the CPU) but I doubt it. It never does anything like going into a power saving/suspend mode - it just dims the screen. I have NEVER sensed or heard the tube in my Sony monitor switching when dimming. My guess its the monitor - have you tried connecting another one to the CPU and/or the monitor to another CPU? - Gareth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!usenet From: mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu (Mike Mezzino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT Date: 10 Apr 1997 16:31:37 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5ij4l9$ved@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.cl.uh.edu Has anyone been able to make a JAZ drive work on a 68K NeXT? Several months ago, someone posted the following disktab entry which he claimed worked for him. iomega jaz|iomega jaz 1GB|iomega jaz 1GB G.5512/1:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1021:nt#64:ns#32:ss#512:rm#5394:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:\ :pa#0:sa#2045952:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#3:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: On the NeXT web site, there is a different disktab entry. IOMEGAJAZ-1G:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#3584:nt#4:ns#72:ss#1024:rm#5400:\ :fp#160:bp#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a\ :pa#0:sa#1032192:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: Neither of these mappings work for me! If this works for someone, I can only assume that there is something else I must do. Of course, the SCSI ID is unique and the bus is properly terminated. In fact, the ZIP drive was trivial to install and has worked perfectly from the start. If I ever get a JAZ drive to work, will it format/recognize Mac disks like the ZIP drive? Thanks for any suggestions. Mike Mezzino, Department of Mathematics University of Houston - Clear Lake mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!! Date: 10 Apr 1997 17:28:32 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ij800$kv1@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26253 comp.sys.next.hardware:28241 comp.sys.next.software:29023 I have a very serious problem that I need help with. I have a Jaz disk that had files moved from it onto another disk (using the next window GUI move command). I want to recover the data fromm the original Jaz disk. Unfortunately the disk the data was moved onto was destroyed. The Jaz disk is intact and hasn't had anything done to it since the data was moved off (no read or writes). Is there any way this can be done? Can I do it myself or is there a service that I can send the disk to to have it recovered? If a service is the way to go, are there any recommendations? PLEASE HELP!! Of course I need the data recovered yesterday! Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!news2.EUnet.fr!Belgium.EU.net!news From: Global.Market@canbuy.all (Trop long) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: I highly recommend DeepSpace Tech. for NeXT! Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:35:12 GMT Organization: of malfaiteurs Lines: 14 Message-ID: <334f24b3.40728015@news.ping.be> References: <19970409234300.TAA12228@ladder01.news.aol.com> Reply-To: anyone NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup026.liege.eunet.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 dmcke40249@aol.com (DMcke40249) wrote: >I bought a complete NeXTstation Color system from DeepSpace Technologies >last week and am completely satisfied with their service. When I get good >service somewhere I like to pass it along. It was the best deal I could >find on the web after looking for quite some time. My machine arrived >yesterday morning, four days after I ordered it by phone. It was extremely >well packed and in excellent condition. They had installed a fresh copy of >NS 3.3 and had checked everything out before the system was shipped. Bravo >DeepSpace. Keep up the first class service! I look forward to doing >business with you in the future. > How much are you paid for this praise? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!usenet From: mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu (Mike Mezzino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT - Additional Info Date: 10 Apr 1997 17:57:52 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 112 Message-ID: <5ij9n0$cd@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.cl.uh.edu I have organized the dialog generated by each disktab entry that I mentioned earlier in "JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT." If some unix guru is listening, maybe he/she can tell me where my problem is. Thanks. Mike Mezzino, Department of Mathematics University of Houston - Clear Lake mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dialog generated using NeXT's disktab entry iomega jaz|iomega jaz 1GB|iomega jaz 1GB G.5512/1:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1021:nt#64:ns#32:ss#512:rm#5394:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:\ :pa#0:sa#2045952:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#3:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: During boot: : iomega jaz 1GB Rev G.60 as sd1 ...... sd1: UNIT ATTENTION can't read device capicity disk unformatted : Last entry In Console after attempt to initialize: : /usr/etc/disk -i -h poincare -l "UntitledDisk" /dev/rsd1a sd1 (5,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) disk name: iomega jaz 1GB disk type: removable_rw_scsi Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9 sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x1c SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) Read Capacity command failed sr_io_status = 2 ; check status, sr_esense valid SCSI status = 02H Disk Format Failed =============================================================================== Dialog generated using user's disktab entry IOMEGAJAZ-1G:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#3584:nt#4:ns#72:ss#1024:rm#5400:\ :fp#160:bp#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a\ :pa#0:sa#1032192:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: During boot: : iomega jaz 1GB Rev G.60 as sd1 ...... sd1: UNIT ATTENTION Waiting for drive to come ready sd1: UNIT ATTENTION sd1: UNIT ATTENTION (18 times) : Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9 sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x1c SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) ERROR: Invalid disk block length of zero Disk unformatted : Last entry In Console after attempt to initialize: : /usr/etc/disk -i -h poincare -l "UntitledDisk" /dev/rsd1a sd1 (5,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) disk name: iomega jaz 1GB disk type: removable_rw_scsi Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8 Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9 sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x1c SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) Read Capacity command failed sr_io_status = 2 ; check status, sr_esense valid SCSI status = 02H Disk Format Failed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wacom tablets & NS3.3 From: mike@complink.net (Mike Trepanier) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.135.156.8 Message-ID: <334d2585.0@news.complink.net> Date: 10 Apr 97 17:38:13 GMT Lines: 5 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.complink.net! Is anyone out there successfully using a wacom drawing tablet with Nextstep 3.3? Is so how well does it work and does it co-exist with a serial mouse as in Windows? Any success or horror stories welcome. Mike mike@complink.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!acsu.buffalo.edu!usenet From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Printer pinouts? Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:34:07 -0400 Organization: University At Buffalo Lines: 54 Message-ID: <334D4EBF.FFE@arch.buffalo.edu> References: <5i20o2$7ri$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Reply-To: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: aquarius.arch.buffalo.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) To: Ian Stephenson Ian Stephenson wrote: > > In article <5i20o2$7ri$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> > paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: > > In article <5i1qhl$8t9$1@nntp1.mcs.net>, wrote: > > >I just got a NeXT laser printer... minus the cable. > > >Does anyone know the pinouts for the cable? > > > > It is a DB9M to DB9M straight thru pin-to-pin connection. > > As a matter of fact, one of my NeXT printer use the cable that goes > > with a VGA-Keyboard-Mouse switch box. I use the 9-pin cable (male-male). > > This cable is shorter than the original black cable, but it works fine > > If the cable length has been changed, then you've been lucky if it still > works (at least as far as I've been told). The NeXT printer interface is a > glorious hack (in the very best of ways), and relies on the propagation > times along the cable for some of its timing operations. Changing the > length risks the timings being wrong, and the printer locking up. > > There's a file on one of the ftp sites which documents some of this and > describes how someone build a longer(!) cable. > > $an I don't know what these mean, but I thought you might find them useful. Use at your own risk. From the User's Reference: D-9 Connector 5 4 3 2 1 o o o o o o o o o 9 8 7 6 Pin Signal 1 LP CLK 2 LP DATA IN 3 LP DATA OUT 1 4 LP DATA OUT 2 5 LP PWR ENABLE 6 GND 7 GND 8 GND 9 NC -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!thetimes.pixel.kodak.com!news.kodak.com!newsserver.rdcs.Kodak.COM!not-for-mail From: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help, need inexpensive NextStep release CD Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:47:59 -0500 Organization: Eastman Kodak Company Lines: 7 Message-ID: <334D51FF.7CF3@why.net> Reply-To: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.98.128.69 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) Like before, I would like to buy, failing which, if someone could even mail me a boot floppy to get up and running, configure my system , format my hard disk etc:-(its a dos formatted beast) I would be ecstatic, for a trade I have the developer CD . The thought of the black slab on my desk at home sitting idly is killing me :) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.caldera.com!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news From: Jason Lincoln Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:02:34 -0500 Organization: Oracle Corp. Lines: 37 Message-ID: <334D556A.68BA@us.oracle.com> References: <5ij4l9$ved@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: reserved-dhcp-44-132.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mike Mezzino wrote: > > Has anyone been able to make a JAZ drive work on a 68K NeXT? Several months > ago, someone posted the following disktab entry which he claimed worked for > him. > > iomega jaz|iomega jaz 1GB|iomega jaz 1GB G.5512/1:\ > :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1021:nt#64:ns#32:ss#512:rm#5394:\ > :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ > :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:\ > :pa#0:sa#2045952:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#3:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ > :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: > > On the NeXT web site, there is a different disktab entry. > > IOMEGAJAZ-1G:\ > :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#3584:nt#4:ns#72:ss#1024:rm#5400:\ > :fp#160:bp#0:\ > :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a\ > :pa#0:sa#1032192:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ > :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: > > Neither of these mappings work for me! If this works for someone, I can only > assume that there is something else I must do. Of course, the SCSI ID is unique > and the bus is properly terminated. In fact, the ZIP drive was trivial to > install and has worked perfectly from the start. > > If I ever get a JAZ drive to work, will it format/recognize Mac disks like the > ZIP drive? Thanks for any suggestions. > > Mike Mezzino, Department of Mathematics > University of Houston - Clear Lake > mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu After I added the disktab information I got from NeXTAnswers my Jaz drive has worked great. It will read DOS, MacOS, and NeXT formatted Jaz Disks. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.216.190.5!news1.isp.net!ispnet!antigone!peak.org!luomat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: Message-ID: <199704090237.WAA07689@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Tue, 8 Apr 97 22:36:40 -0400 Subject: remapping Win95 keys? Reply-To: luomat@peak.org Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-Nextstep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Pgp-Key: Email me Lines: 10 Just curious as to whether anyone has been able to remap the Win95 keys on the new 104-key keyboards. Looks like it would be a good place for 'command' keys under NS but I don't know if it's possible. Thanks for any success stories! TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!newsserv.caiw.nl!usenet From: Lorier@caiw.nl (pierre lorier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: looking for black next users in the Netherlands Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 06:23:44 GMT Organization: CAI Westland/Kabelfoon Lines: 10 Message-ID: <334c7b77.1305858@newsserv.caiw.nl> Reply-To: Lorier@caiw.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.178.10.198 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 It seems my system is not functioning properly Looking for black next users /owners in the Netherlands who are willing to test my components on there machine. I have an NeXTstation Turbo Color ADB, so testing is limited to an turbo ADB. Residence Rotterda Pierre ( 010-4801172) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pumpkin.pangea.ca!not-for-mail From: siren@surf.pangea.ca (Betty Siren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupts... help Date: 10 Apr 1997 18:44:26 -0500 Organization: Pangea.CA, Inc. Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5iju0q$odj@surf.pangea.ca> References: <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5ibi4d$i6d@transfer.stratus.com> <5idr8d$9al$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ig5to$f38@news-central.tiac.net> <5igg14$4p2$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> <334CEF11.6668@zg.tel.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: surf.pangea.ca X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Danko Ferdebar writes: >Ryan Scott wrote: >> zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) wrote: >> >On 04/08/97, Ryan Scott wrote: >> >>cdodson@cac.stratus.com***(Craig Dodson) wrote: >> >>>In article <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca >> >(Doug Booth) writes: >> >>>> The machine has 32 MB of RAM and is running 3.3 >> >>>> machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel >> >0x2000110 >> >Well, this happens to me as well on a standalone machine. I thought >> >that I should blame faulty memory (it started then I added 16 MB >> >parity SIMMs to 4MB non-parity), but I started to doubt that. Are you >> >guys sure the problem is with network? >> No. I have also had a spurious DMA interrupt problem unrelated to the >> net. I never did find the cause... As I recall, it went away on its >The same problem is also with my NeXTstation. I started with NextStep >3.0, 16MB RAM and 400MB hard. Later I upgrade it to OpenStep 4.1. After >upgrade the problems start. My NeXTstation with OpenStep 4.1 isn't on >the net. My 3.3 cube became flakier than a Beta Amiga after upgrading the memory to 64M. The errors looked like hardware problems. This error looks familiar, but my own memory does have some hardware problems! All the cube's problems went away when I removed a stupid hardcoded "hiwat=31457280" from the default /etc/rc.swap file. ... Richard Tilley #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.cloud9.net!cloud9.net!not-for-mail From: mgoumans@cloud9.net (Mike Goumans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: I highly recommend DeepSpace Tech. for NeXT! Date: 11 Apr 1997 01:51:28 GMT Organization: Cloud 9 Internet, White Plains, NY, USA Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5ik5f0$8oi@news.cloud9.net> References: <19970409234300.TAA12228@ladder01.news.aol.com> <334f24b3.40728015@news.ping.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: cloud9.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Trop long (Global.Market@canbuy.all) wrote: : dmcke40249@aol.com (DMcke40249) wrote: : : >I bought a complete NeXTstation Color system from DeepSpace Technologies : >last week and am completely satisfied with their service. When I get good : >service somewhere I like to pass it along. It was the best deal I could : >find on the web after looking for quite some time. My machine arrived : >yesterday morning, four days after I ordered it by phone. It was extremely : >well packed and in excellent condition. They had installed a fresh copy of : >NS 3.3 and had checked everything out before the system was shipped. Bravo : >DeepSpace. Keep up the first class service! I look forward to doing : >business with you in the future. : > : How much are you paid for this praise? : If you ever dealt with them, you wouldnt ask a question like that. #################################################################### Message-ID: <334DF3A2.291E486C@iphysiol.unil.ch> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:17:39 +0200 From: Sean Hill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware To: Mike Mezzino Subject: Re: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT - Additional Info X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <5ij9n0$cd@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 NNTP-Posting-Host: pcbfsh1-138-2e.unil.ch Lines: 31 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!swidir.switch.ch!cisun2000.unil.ch!pcbfsh1-138-2e.unil.ch That looks an awful lot like SCSI termination problems to me. Do you have the proper termination connected? Does the scsi id conflict with anything else? Cheers- sean Mike Mezzino wrote: > I have organized the dialog generated by each disktab entry that I > mentioned > earlier in "JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT." If some unix guru is > listening, maybe > he/she can tell me where my problem is. Thanks. > > Mike Mezzino, Department of Mathematics > University of Houston - Clear Lake > mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu > > During boot: > : > iomega jaz 1GB Rev G.60 as sd1 ...... > sd1: UNIT ATTENTION > Waiting for drive to come ready > sd1: UNIT ATTENTION > sd1: UNIT ATTENTION (18 times) > : > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what is the connector in the turbo MB center ???? Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 14:55:20 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <334BD285.4ED9@why.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" In-Reply-To: <334BD285.4ED9@why.net> On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant wrote: > What is the connector (looks like a SIMM slot) in the center of a turbo > mono motherboard for ? is it a DSP memory add on slot ?? Yes. It's for expanding the DSP memory - an upgrade rarely made, unless you were doing some significant synthesis or signal processing on your NeXT. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!not-for-mail From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: broken NeXTstation power supply Date: 11 Apr 1997 11:03:25 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5il5pt$ekq$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <334AE6AC.5126@euronet.nl> Reply-To: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de In article <334AE6AC.5126@euronet.nl> Igor van Oostveen writes: > could somebody direct me to a source for NeXTstation powersupplies? http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!schindall From: schindall@nrl.navy.mil (jeff schindall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:16:19 -0400 Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory Lines: 1 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: wave1m.nrl.navy.mil X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 cancel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!schindall From: schindall@nrl.navy.mil (jeff schindall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use a NeXT monitor with a Mac? Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:16:51 -0400 Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <334CD94E.448A@dit.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: wave1m.nrl.navy.mil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 In article <334CD94E.448A@dit.ie>, dryan@dit.ie wrote: The answer is definitely YES. Many Many Many monitors can be used with macs if you have the appropriate sync adapter----I get adapter's for about $45 from Griffin Technologies. I've had nothing but great service from these folks... See their web page at http://www.nasville.net/~griffin >Hi, >I looked up the FAQ but could only find info on using non-NeXT monitors >with black systems. This might be a very basic question but I've never >actually seen a black system. Can NeXT monitors be used with Macintosh >systems? Specifically I would like to know if the 17" Sony or (more >importantly) the 21" Hitachi can be used? Is converter cabling/circuitry >required? > -- -- jeff schindall #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!130.211.50.75!inet-prime.comshare.com!not-for-mail From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mouse: Bus vs. Serial Date: 11 Apr 1997 13:30:57 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5ileeh$mti$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> Reply-To: alanf@izzy.net NNTP-Posting-Host: blackbird.comshare.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Greetings etherial composite mind, I'm looking at alternatives to my bar-o-black-soap mouse for pre-ADB NeXTStations. I know a company in Canada manufactured modified Logictech Bus Mouses for this. I also found a spec for taking a Logitech Bus Mouse and converting it to a mini-DIN 8 connector as a NeXT Mouse replacement. Could someone explain to me why a Bus Mouse is used in both these cases, and not a Serial Mouse? Any information is greatly appreciated. Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.112.192.109!newsfeed.one.net!news.one.net!howard.one.net!howard!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Date: 9 Apr 97 16:53:22 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.prv1.one.net In-reply-to: Timothy Luoma's message of Mon, 24 Mar 1997 11:09:51 -0800 In article , Timothy Luoma writes: I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 processors are selling for what looks like only $40 more than P120. I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for $40 it seems worthwhile to upgrade. Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price diff or was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether the diff between P120 and P133 is significant? Oops, just remembered another point about P120 vs P133. Machines with a 60Mhz bus only need 70ns memory, machines with a 66Mhz bus need 60ns. So vendors will try to unload their 70ns DRAM by selling it in 120Mhz machines (or 150Mhz), which leaves you somewhat high and dry if/when you upgrade later. Going forward, you don't want 70ns DRAM (heck, you only barely want 60ns :-). Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: rencsok@channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: APEX 4.6 GB OPTICAL HARD DRIVE Date: 11 Apr 1997 14:16:16 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 21 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5ilh3g$a9g$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <860645494.20117@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: dsolis@data.net.mx Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26260 comp.sys.next.hardware:28258 In <860645494.20117@dejanews.com> dsolis@data.net.mx wrote: > Has anyone been able to format and use the PinnacleMicro Apex > under NeXTStep?. It's a double-sided MO disk, and holds > 2.3gig on each side. > > Any experience (disktab?) or comments would be appreciated by e-mail if > possible. > > TIA > Uck.. Your going to need a disktab for two partitions (we still have the 2G limit). How you'd get NeXTStep to mount both of them when inserting the media (via automounter) would still have to be solved (if even possible). I've never tried putting two partitions on a MO to see if the automounter would mount them both. :| Randy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: rencsok@channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 GB limit before or after formatting? Date: 11 Apr 1997 14:30:47 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 61 Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5ilhun$a9g$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5hv9gq$38c$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5ie3hm$jmc@news.grolier.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: levenez@club-internet.fr Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26261 comp.sys.next.hardware:28259 In <5ie3hm$jmc@news.grolier.fr> Eric Levenez wrote: > decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) wrote: > >I just got a 2.15 GB IBM UltraStar 2ES drive to run under NEXTSTEP 3.3. I know > >that 3.3 has a 2 GB limit per partition. Is that a limit on the space before or > >after formatting? I know that the disk will come out under 2GB after > >formatting. So if the limit applies to space after formatting, I won't have any > >problem or waste. But if the limit applies on space before formatting, I will > >want to split off 150 MB into another partition (I'll use it for my primary > >swapfile). > > I have a IBM 4 GB on NS 3.3. I have to make 3 partitions because the > disk (after formated) has a little more than 4 GB. The two first are > just below 2 GB, the last one is a little 400 MB. > > Here is my disktab entry : > > DFRSS4F|DFRSS4F-512|IBM DFRSS4F:\ > :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#4392:nt#16:ns#135:ss#512:rm#7200:\ > :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ > :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=tasha:rw=a:rw=b:\ > :pa#0:sa#3997696:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#3:oa=time:\ > :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ > :pb#3997696:sb#3997696:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#3:ob=time:\ > :ib:tb=4.3BSD:\ > :pc#7995392:sc#811008:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#32:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\ > :ic:tc=4.3BSD: > You can't get up over 4M blocks? Did you try sa > 4000000? I would have thought one could get 4194000 blocks or there abouts which would eliminate the need for a third partition.. Here is mine for a Conner that does just under 2GB per partition. CONNER CFP4207S 4.28GB|CONNER|CFP4207S|4.28GB|CFP4207S-1024:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#3384:nt#20:ns#62:ss#1024:rm#7200:\ :fp#160:bp#256:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:hn=ascended:rw=a:rw=b:\ :pa#0:sa#2097151:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD\ :pb#2097151:sb#2096992:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#8:db#4096:rb#5:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD: Now if you want a 400M swap partition your disktab might be the ticket BTW: IMHO Be careful about putting a seperate swap partition on your HD's in some circumstances it can really work out your drive if you get into a swapping circumstance where the heads do a lot of moving back and forth (like if you had / on one partition /usr on another and /private/vm on another). Say your reading in a 20M file off / and you have to swap! Your disk will have to move the heads from / to swap and back again for every swap action. This can be quie hard on a HD. Randy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tektronix tablet on NS3.3/m68k? Date: 11 Apr 1997 18:09:34 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5iluou$1e6a@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f209-212.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Does anyone know if it is possible to attach a Tektronix 4957 graphics tablet (serial interface) to a NeXT box running 3.3. What tablets besides Wacom can be used, if any? Anything needed besides InstallTablet.app? Thanks, - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!ix.netcom.com!news.idt.net!mr.net!newshub.tc.umn.edu!newsstand.tc.umn.edu!usenet From: Jeff Hallgren Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! Quantum HD won't power up Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:46:00 -0500 Organization: I make stacks of papers, then throw them away. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <333D4748.314A@abaton.com> References: <5hhas6$i0d$1@was.hooked.net> Reply-To: jhall@abaton.com NNTP-Posting-Host: balihi.umhc.umn.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: Jeff Hallgren (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) To: Brian Dear X-Priority: Normal Brian Dear wrote: > > I have a Canon object.station 41 machine with a Quantum 1.2 GB HD. > Recently I shut down the machine and when I brought it back up, the hard > disk would not spin up, and so therefore the machine cannot boot NEXTSTEP. > The object station(s) I used awhile back became increasingly hard to boot. At one point I was wrapping the drive in a heating pad (!!) It works, apparently loosening up the gunk inside that prevents it from spinning up. Shortly after that the ethernet went out... Don't put any money into repairing a Canon object.station 41. -- Jeff Hallgren jhallgre@abaton.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!informatik.uni-muenchen.de!newsmaster From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT and Intel Backups incompatible? Date: 11 Apr 1997 18:11:43 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5ilusv$ke@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial075.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hello, I'm using an Intel OPENSTEP machine with an attached HP 2GB DAT streamer. At work I use an NeXT Turbo Color with attached Archive Python DAT streamer. My problem is, that I can't take a DAT tape recorded on one computer and read it in on the other. I backup'ed several files with different length on both computers, using gnutar. When I insert the tape on the other computer, gnutar won't recognize the archive again. Also dd always only reads 85 records of 32k blocks. I tried different blocking factors and byte swabbing (using dd conf=swab), however it didn't help. What am I doing wrong? Is a DAT backup fixed to the underlying hardware? Is the hardware dependency the computer or the backup device? Any advice would be very much appreciated! Many greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!pegasus!kdb From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DynaMO 540 and SYS.230 Date: 11 Apr 1997 21:42:49 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5imb8p$n6$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pegasus.ece.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25550 comp.sys.next.hardware:28263 Does anyone know if Fujitsu's DynaMO 640 and/or Olympus's SYS.230 MO drives will work with my Color NeXTStation running NS3.2? I'd heard stories about the older DynaMO 230 not working, but I truly can't recall. Thanks for any info you can provide.. ...................................................................... : Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin : : kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 : :....................................................................: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: fs: st1480n scsi drives $80 Date: 11 Apr 1997 23:24:29 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970411232400.TAA26014@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com about 5 left. UPS SUN SCSI Built to order with support GSA schedule Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need Help Getting SB16 PnP to work. Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 00:02:50 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip153.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 12 Apr 1997 00:04:24 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 I put in all the correct settings, directly from the manual for the sound card. Also, I've had success in Linux using the exact settings from the book, so I know that's not the problem. I heard someting from someone a while back that said you need to change someting in the Expert settings for it to work with PnP. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!ais.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!207.115.134.241!newsfeed.gte.net!news From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next users in Tampa, Florida Date: 11 Apr 1997 23:54:34 GMT Organization: GTE Intelligent Network Services, GTE INS Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5imivq$qjg$1@news9.gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: clw231035.gte.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth: UNKNOWN@clw231035.gte.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Are there any NeXT user in the Tampa Bay, Florida area. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does Parallel Zip Drive work with OPENSTEP? Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 00:04:56 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3353d140.10392580@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip153.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 12 Apr 1997 00:05:51 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Hi, I own an external parallel zip drive and would really hate to find out that my zip drive doesn't work. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: I highly recommend DeepSpace Tech. for NeXT! Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:33:46 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <19970409234300.TAA12228@ladder01.news.aol.com> <334f24b3.40728015@news.ping.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: <334f24b3.40728015@news.ping.be> On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, Trop long wrote: > >I bought a complete NeXTstation Color system from DeepSpace Technologies > >last week and am completely satisfied with their service. When I get good [etc.] > >DeepSpace. Keep up the first class service! I look forward to doing > >business with you in the future. > > > How much are you paid for this praise? Probably nothing - If you'd read this newsgroup from more than a few months, you would have caught the last round of praise for DeepSpace Tech (back when they were moving complete mono NeXTstations for $270, including shipping). I myself have nothing but good things to say about my dealings with DeepSpace Technologies - I got what I ordered in a timely fashion at a good price. I think you may have the gain on your "spam radar" set a little too high. Even if the post was spam (which I, based on my experiences, am inclined to doubt), your nasty public comment was uncalled for. (I realize I am responding in a public forum as well - by hiding behind anonymity you left me no choice.) -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need: Prog to watch TV with using vid input card Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 04:32:49 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 11 Message-ID: <33501ec4.9370632@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip43.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 12 Apr 1997 04:33:44 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Hi, I just bought a STB PCI TV video input card and don't like the idea of always having to be in win 95 or something just so I can watch tv. Is there some generic program that works with different video input cards that'll let me watch tv and, as a plus, save as quicktime or capture frames. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!pegasus!kdb From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DynaMO 640 and SYS.230 Date: 12 Apr 1997 04:28:10 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5in30q$l58$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pegasus.ece.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Does anyone know if Fujitsu's DynaMO 640 or 230 and/or Olympus's SYS.230 MO drives will work with my Color NeXTStation running NS3.2? I'd heard stories about the older DynaMO 230 not working, but I truly can't recall. Thanks for any info you can provide.. ...................................................................... : Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin : : kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 : :....................................................................: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!news.dkrz.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!gatech!ukma!jaegan From: jaegan@ms.uky.edu (R. Humphress) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone dealt with Tito A. Lugtu before? Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 01:42:27 +0100 Organization: Univ. of KY Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.163.113.104 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17122 comp.sys.next.hardware:28271 Yeah. A system and printer which I now own unfortunately. The printer doesn't want to feed paper through (solution to this problem is pending. I talked to a local hardware guru, who gave me some things to try, but I've been busy, and the printer is home, while myself and the station are at college.) As for the station, it has a problem with the onboard video. (specifically, at bootup their are vertical columns of pixels which are doubled...about 5-8 pixels wide. once it's been up for ~30 min or so, half of those double lines go to a solid color, and the thing looks like it's in jail.) Other than that everything is fine. As far as the processor, memory etc. all seems in order. I'm using it as a server, so I don't really require console login, but it's rather annoying to have spent so much for so little. If anyone has any suggestions about any of the above, email me. He also stopped answering my email after he got my money...I sincerely hope he doesn't sleep well nights. -R. Humphress jaegan@inslab.uky.edu In article , tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) wrote: > Hi, > > I have some unfinished business with Tito A. Lugtu, an engineering PhD > who lives in Daly City, California. I have sent several e-mails to > his e-mail address "talugtu@slip.net", but he refused to respond. > I just wonder if anyone in this newsgroup has dealt with him before, > or has any information about him? The last time I could remember, > he was trying to sell a NeXT system with a NeXT printer. > > Thanks for any help you can provide. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.250.196.4!News.MO.NET!usenet From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: REQUEST SENSE ERROR Date: 12 Apr 1997 04:49:45 GMT Organization: -=MO.NET=- MVP-Net, Inc's Missouri Operations Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5in499$381@twain.mvp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nimno.wpa.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20003-01 Apr 8 10:14:52 nimno mach: st: major number 8 Apr 8 10:14:52 nimno mach: st0: ARCHIVE Python 28388-XXX 4.98 Apr 8 10:14:52 nimno mach: Registering: st0 at Target 3 LUN 0 at sc0 Apr 8 10:14:52 nimno mach: sd0: REQUEST SENSE ERROR; FATAL. Apr 8 10:14:52 nimno mach: IO error on pagein (breadDirect) /usr/Devices/SCSItape.config/PostLoad: cannot execute Before I spend money to call NeXT tech support, can anyone give me some free advice about what these errors mean and I how could diagnose what's wrong or better yet, how to fix it? The drive works fine on black hardware but I get this error when it's connected to Intel hardware. I'm using an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card, and have no problems with the external SCSI disk attached to it (the Python DAT drive is daisy-chained with the disk drive) and there is also an internal CD ROM. The drive has a "digital active termination" capability, but I have that deselected and am instead using an actual termination block. #################################################################### From: saltine@sexy.isd.net (Eric Ulmer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: I highly recommend DeepSpace Tech. for NeXT! References: <5ik5f0$8oi@news.cloud9.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.141.37.79 Message-ID: <334f3101.0@usamrid.isd.net> Date: 12 Apr 97 06:51:45 GMT Lines: 30 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news-out.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!usamrid.isd.net!208.141.37.79 In article <5ik5f0$8oi@news.cloud9.net> mgoumans@cloud9.net (Mike Goumans) writes: > Trop long (Global.Market@canbuy.all) wrote: > : dmcke40249@aol.com (DMcke40249) wrote: > : > : >I bought a complete NeXTstation Color system from DeepSpace Technologies > : >last week and am completely satisfied with their service. When I get good > : >service somewhere I like to pass it along. It was the best deal I could > : >find on the web after looking for quite some time. My machine arrived > : >yesterday morning, four days after I ordered it by phone. It was extremely > : >well packed and in excellent condition. They had installed a fresh copy of > : >NS 3.3 and had checked everything out before the system was shipped. Bravo > : >DeepSpace. Keep up the first class service! I look forward to doing > : >business with you in the future. > : > > : How much are you paid for this praise? > : > If you ever dealt with them, you wouldnt ask a question like that. > As a proud owner of a DeepSpace system too, I agree totally. See my web page on Next stuff if you get bored, too. http://www.isd.net/eulmer #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT and Intel Backups incompatible? Date: 12 Apr 1997 09:54:19 -0400 Organization: Quick and Associates Lines: 57 Message-ID: <5io46b$7dc@papoose.quick.com> References: <5ilusv$ke@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com In article <5ilusv$ke@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>, Bernhard Scholz wrote: >Hello, > >I'm using an Intel OPENSTEP machine with an attached HP 2GB DAT streamer. >At work I use an NeXT Turbo Color with attached Archive Python DAT streamer. > >My problem is, that I can't take a DAT tape recorded on one computer and read >it in on the other. I backup'ed several files with different length on both >computers, using gnutar. When I insert the tape on the other computer, gnutar >won't recognize the archive again. Also dd always only reads 85 records of >32k blocks. > >I tried different blocking factors and byte swabbing (using dd conf=swab), >however it didn't help. > >What am I doing wrong? Is a DAT backup fixed to the underlying hardware? >Is the hardware dependency the computer or the backup device? > >Any advice would be very much appreciated! I have never encountered this behavior. Gnutar and dump/restore are designed to be endian independant. I suggest that the problem is with one of your drives. Though it could be a difference in driver configuration. Try the following test. First use a cleaning cartridge on both drives. Create a gnutar archive on each system. Cut tape A on Host A to drive A Cut tape B on Host B to drive B Swap the tape drives. try to read tape A on drive B connected to host A try to read tape B on drive A connected to host B If neither of these tests work, then you are dealing with an incompatibility between the drives themselves. Since DDS is an industry standard, this is probably a result of one of the drives being out of alignment. You would have to find a third DAT drive to determine which drive is misaligned and either needs repair or replacement. Also possible is that you have drivers configured differently between the two systems. If you can read both tapes from one of the hosts after swapping the drives, but can read only one tape on the other host, then make sure that both drivers are setting variable length blocks or that both drivers are using a fixed block length of 512. Read the man page for stblocksize (/usr/etc/stblocksize) to do this. I hope this helps. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sesqui.net!uuneo.neosoft.com!news From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DynaMO 540 and SYS.230 Date: 12 Apr 1997 18:00:59 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5ioikr$ebd@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5imb8p$n6$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.109.13.28 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25555 comp.sys.next.hardware:28275 In <5imb8p$n6$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Kurt D. Bollacker wrote: > I'd heard stories about the older DynaMO 230 not working, but I truly can't > recall. I've had a DynaMO 230 on my NeXTstation for over a year with no problems. Works great. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ---------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: what is the connector in the turbo MB center ???? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <334BD285.4ED9@why.net> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 17:58:20 GMT Lines: 13 In article <334BD285.4ED9@why.net> "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" writes: > What is the connector (looks like a SIMM slot) in the center of a turbo > mono motherboard for ? is it a DSP memory add on slot ?? > Right. But unfortunately, there is no market for such memory anymore. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 e. After you booted the machine successfully, you could NFSexport the CD from the SUN and if you know to do a proper NFSmount from the NeXT (there's a trick with Solaris block size) you could successfully run Upgrader.app from the NFS mounted CD. > lastly, > > if there are no errors during power up (rom monitor ) does that mean it > recognizes the scsi drive (internal ) ?? > Only if it was configured to search for it. If it was out for a netboot... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.191.124.105!ott.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <28108860302827@digifix.com> Date: 13 Apr 1997 04:00:07 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <15479860904022@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:63543 comp.sys.next.announce:4139 comp.sys.next.hardware:28278 comp.sys.next.software:29046 comp.sys.next.misc:25559 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26284 comp.sys.next.bugs:4256 comp.sys.next.programmer:24088 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!otto!not-for-mail From: Erik A Hansen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ariel DATport Date: 12 Apr 1997 22:01:08 GMT Organization: Florida State University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5ip0n4$f85@news.fsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.cmr.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 960930] I'm looking for an Ariel DATport for the NeXT. It is a breakout box that provides digital inputs (and outputs?) to the NeXT's DSP. I'm mainly looking for one for the opportunity to have one, money is limited while I'm attending school. I'm also open to any other ideas for sound inputs for the NeXT. Anyone want to part with their Digital Ears, cheaply? thanks, erik -- Erik Ariston Hansen hansen_e@cmr.fsu.edu http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~hansen_e #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!132.205.106.4!newsflash.concordia.ca!SUNqbc.risq.net!news1.bellglobal.com!bellglobal.com!not-for-mail From: gwhite@bodnext.bio.dfo.ca (George White) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] NeXT MO cartridges (with formatting!) on other drives? Date: 13 Apr 1997 15:36:24 -0300 Organization: Bedford Institute of Oceanography Lines: 13 Message-ID: Reply-To: aa056@chebucto.ns.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.2.20.130 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Our optical drive has the "spin up/spin down" problem, but since it is quite clean inside (it was running with a filter installed), I assume the problem is not something that can be solved with cleaning, and in any case, we no longer need the NeXT optical drives as we have a large NFS server. I don't need to recover any data from the cartridges. We do use an optical drive to store images on a Mac, with an Iomega drive. I tried to initialize a NeXT cart. in this drive, using the FWB SCSI tools, but the drive ejects the NeXT formatted cartridges. Before I dispose of the NeXT cartridges, I'd like to know if anyone has succeeded in reformatting NeXT M/O cartridges with some non-NeXT drive. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!roper.uwyo.edu!roper.uwyo.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium Pro Motherboard and OpenStep Message-ID: <1997Apr13.143344.26500@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 13 Apr 97 14:33:43 MDT References: <1997Mar28.073854.26419@roper.uwyo.edu> <5hjpvq$9td@news.4dcomm.com> Distribution: world Nntp-Posting-Host: panoramix.uwyo.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: bisk@4dcomm.com Lines: 35 In <5hjpvq$9td@news.4dcomm.com> Stephen D. Biskis wrote: > I've built one NS3.3 Pentium Pro box using a TYAN Titan-Pro M/B: > S1662 440FX PCI-ISA V1.1 System board. > > I've had constant lock-ups due, I think, to video. > If I run BackSpace this system will definitely lock-up within 2-12 hours. > Otherwise it runs for days until the system hangs. But it will eventually > hang. ... > I love the TYAN Pentium M/B's but probably won't be buying anymore of their > PRO variety for NS. > Thanks for the info. I went ahead and ordered a SuperMicro P6SNS-200 with a built in Adaptec 7880 controller (UW7940). The systems has been running flawlessly for over a week now. It has been on 24h a day, 7 days a week. NeXTSTEP 3.3 even recognizes the onboard controller (after downloading the new SCSI driver from next.com). I think I would recommand the Supermicro motherboard. Actually, and since the TYAN and the SuperMicro motherboards seemed about the same, the reason why I went with SuperMicro is that I did not care much at all for the TYAN homepage.... Silly reason.... It was really a coin toss. -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: [Q] NeXT MO cartridges (with formatting!) on other drives? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 20:13:37 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 21 In article , George White wrote: > >We do use an optical drive to store images on a Mac, with an Iomega >drive. I tried to initialize a NeXT cart. in this drive, using the >FWB SCSI tools, but the drive ejects the NeXT formatted cartridges. >Before I dispose of the NeXT cartridges, I'd like to know if anyone >has succeeded in reformatting NeXT M/O cartridges with some non-NeXT >drive. > I don't think it's possible. I gather that the NeXT drive (which has a good dose of Crandall in it, I'm told) does some pretty strange stuff. But, instead of junking the carts, why not sell them on c.s.n.marketplace? There are lots of NeXT people who still use their optical drives. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] NeXT MO cartridges (with formatting!) on other drives? Date: 13 Apr 1997 22:53:44 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5iro5o$gto@news3.digex.net> References: Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) In article , George White wrote: > >We do use an optical drive to store images on a Mac, with an >Iomega drive. I tried to initialize a NeXT cart. in this drive, >using the FWB SCSI tools, but the drive ejects the NeXT formatted >cartridges. Before I dispose of the NeXT cartridges, I'd like >to know if anyone has succeeded in reformatting NeXT M/O cartridges >with some non-NeXT drive. There was an old Canon SCSI version of the NeXT optical, and it could use the same optical discs...as well as double sided 512Mb canon opticals. It's likely not made anymore.... I don't know where you could find one... It's likely best to just sell the OD's to some NeXT folks... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planetary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: S3Virge black screen problem Date: 13 Apr 1997 19:04:09 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5irvq9$fef@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5ibibt$nfp$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <5iro84$jna$1@Mars.mcs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970327; sun4m SunOS 5.5.1] Merlin J. Mathesius wrote: : Stefan Boehringer wrote: : > using a DiamondStealth3D2000 under NS3.3 I experience the black screen : > when switching to vga mode syndrome. I tried the "Boot Graphics"=No : > and "Shutdown graphics"=No work around. However while shutting down is : > now working the boot process still sucks. Since the console which shows : > up with "Boot Graphics"=No is also in vga mode I wonder how this worked : > to others. : > : > Has anybody experienced this on S3Virge as well? Even better- is a : > workaround known? : Yep. I'm experiencing the same problem. :-( My P5-133 with a Matrox card barfs when switching to SoftPC full-screen mode, but works flawlessly in all other ways. I thought there was a note on this behavior somewhere, but I can't remember where. ..........kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### From: "Darren Reely" Subject: New HD on Old Station? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <01bc4870$f5f14ca0$21422dc7@omni3.omni> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 NNTP-Posting-Host: yvr-ppp-33.cyberstore.ca Date: 14 Apr 97 01:14:51 GMT Lines: 10 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!scipio.cyberstore.ca!yvr-ppp-33.cyberstore.ca I've asked this before but never saw an answer. What newer hard drives will work on an older model Nextstation (25Mhz 30pin simms)? Any experiences welcome. Thankyou, Darren #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!en.com!not-for-mail From: "David S. Strubbe" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MIDI / NS Black Date: 14 Apr 1997 02:21:04 GMT Organization: Exchange Network Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <01bc4880$fda2a600$505894ce@cessna> NNTP-Posting-Host: p16-akron-ts3.en.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Anybody out there doing MIDI work with black hardware? Special interface? What sort of software? Any info appreciated - thanks IA Dave Strubbe daves@en.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: Merlin J. Mathesius Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: S3Virge black screen problem Date: 13 Apr 1997 17:55:00 -0500 Organization: False Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5iro84$jna$1@Mars.mcs.net> References: <5ibibt$nfp$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: mars.mcs.net Stefan Boehringer wrote: > using a DiamondStealth3D2000 under NS3.3 I experience the black screen > when switching to vga mode syndrome. I tried the "Boot Graphics"=No > and "Shutdown graphics"=No work around. However while shutting down is > now working the boot process still sucks. Since the console which shows > up with "Boot Graphics"=No is also in vga mode I wonder how this worked > to others. > > Has anybody experienced this on S3Virge as well? Even better- is a > workaround known? Yep. I'm experiencing the same problem. :-( I've a got machine with an ASUS P55T2P4 motherboard (Triton-2 chip set) and a 133MHz Pentium. I've got a Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 (2MB) video card in it, and I'm trying to run NS 3.3. The ["Boot Graphics" = No] and [boot: -v] tricks simply don't help as NeXTanswer #1470 says. It's just plain maddening! The video works flawlessly under both Win95 and XFree86/Linux, so it's definitely NEXTSTEP that's screwy... Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out a workaround either. MerlinM #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!brokaw.wa.com!not-for-mail From: ihate@spammers.com (bf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Quickcam? Date: 14 Apr 1997 05:29:39 GMT Organization: Crack Whores of America Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5isfc3$nke$1@brokaw.wa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-mx100-ip30.halcyon.com X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0.7@blv-mx100-ip30.halcyon.com X-Authenticated: larryf on POP host 0.0.0.0 Can i use my mac's quickcam on my next color station? is there software avail to run it?? -b ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.halcyon.com/larryf/ -- larryf at halcyon dot com ----------------------------------------------------- --NOTE: Email address in header is fake due to spam-- ------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!kane.uswmedia.com!zephyr.texoma.net!news.stealth.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!194.87.0.28!demos!news.idt.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: rencsok@channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What kind of RAM for my slab? Date: 7 Apr 1997 21:37:17 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5ibped$env$5@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: cookca@cs.purdue.edu Lines: 26 In ** Craig Cook ** wrote: > Hi > > I just bought a color slab and when I turn it on I get no video. I think > I might be trying the wrong kind of memory. It has 72pin slots and is a > 25mHz board. 68040. > > What kind of ram do I need to use in it and where exactly do I put it (ie > close to power supply or farthest from power supply) > Doesn't sound like a good sign. You should definately see something on the monitor-even if it's only a ROM prompt. I've seen symptoms similiar to this on a box that had a fried EEPROM. The system would power on (blank black screen) but then just hang until one did a hard power down (i.e. pull the power cord 'ack') As to where to stuff RAM. If I remember right the slots nearest the power supply are the ones you want to fill first (in pairs of course). 72pin parity or non (should be matched sets, but I've seen systems work with unmatched RAM) 100ns or better. Randy rencsok@channelu.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!newsfeed.kornet.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: "ohjy" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: #9 imagine 128 series 2 with 4MB DRAM Date: 14 Apr 1997 07:43:03 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 19 Message-ID: <01bc485c$6e584140$0973eccb@ohjy> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.236.115.9 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Hello, My current system is a generic pentium 133MHz running Nextstep 3.3J. I am trying to install #9 Imagine 128 series 2 video card with 4MB DRAM. It is installed OK with Configure.app and during booting process, I get the message saying the driver, "beta driver in NeXTanswer #2488", is loaded properly, but as soon as I get onto the login menu stage, the screen goes black and led goes from green to red on the monitor. I tried with 2 different kinds of PC's and monitors. The video card works fine with Win95. Does the driver only support VRAM and not DRAM? The NeXTanswer document regarding the driver only mentions VRAM? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Please respond to: ohjy@softmagic.co.kr Lewis Oh SoftMagic Inc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!newsfeed.kornet.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: "ohjy" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: #9 imagine 128 series 2 with 4MB DRAM and ATM Card Date: 14 Apr 1997 07:49:50 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 25 Message-ID: <01bc485d$62147ec0$0973eccb@ohjy> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.236.115.9 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Hello, My current system is a generic pentium 133MHz running Nextstep 3.3J. I am trying to install #9 Imagine 128 series 2 video card with 4MB DRAM. It is installed OK with Configure.app and during booting process, I get the message saying the driver, "beta driver in NeXTanswer #2488", is loaded properly, but as soon as I get onto the login menu stage, the screen goes black and led goes from green to red on the monitor. I tried with 2 different kinds of PC's and monitors. The video card works fine with Win95. Does the driver only support VRAM and not DRAM? The NeXTanswer document regarding the driver only mentions VRAM? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Please respond to: ohjy@softmagic.co.kr Lewis Oh SoftMagic Inc. PS: Any ATM cards for NS3.3 or Openstep 4.2 for mach? Thanks. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news.unige.ch!news From: "amaia" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: USB ????? Date: 14 Apr 1997 11:39:19 GMT Organization: Infomaniak Lines: 1 Message-ID: <01bc48c8$465eac80$54b8c281@compaq4.td.unige.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.194.184.84 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 I must info to USB ?? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!news From: Matt Seibert Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Specs Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:37:14 -0500 Organization: HealthWay Interactive Lines: 14 Message-ID: <33524F2A.41F3@ita1.inow.com> References: <01bc485c$6e584140$0973eccb@ohjy> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.196.65.240 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) Can someone fill me in on what the different specs for NeXT Stations vs Turbo Stations and Cube vs Turbo Cubes are? I am looking for a NeXT system, but don't really know what iw what with the hardware. I have worked with the systems before, but never really paid attention to which one. Is there an archive I could parse? Please respond to mseibert@ita1.inow.com ThanX! Matt #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news.luc.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: FAXing with PPP Date: 14 Apr 1997 15:34:30 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 5 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5itiq6$17m@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28294 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26309 I have a ZyXEL 2864 FAX/Modem. I have the modem connected to the first com port (serial port 1, /dev/cufa). I am currently using the modem and PPP to dial out. What I'd like to know is, what needs to be done to allow me to use the FAX features of the modem? When I configure a FAX modem in the PrinterManager, then the port (/dev/cufa) is busy when I try to use PPP. Also, when I have established a modem queue and I try to use it it appears that nothing gets sent. Do I need to send some sort of modem commands to switch the modem to fax mode? David A. Johnson, Research Engineer, Northwestern University #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news.luc.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: #9 imagine 128 series 2 with 4MB DRAM Date: 14 Apr 1997 15:28:35 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 57 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5itif3$17m@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <01bc485c$6e584140$0973eccb@ohjy> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] In #9 imagine 128 series 2 with 4MB DRAM comp.sys.next.hardware writes, > Hello, > > My current system is a generic pentium 133MHz running Nextstep 3.3J. I am > trying to install #9 Imagine 128 series 2 video card with 4MB DRAM. It is > installed OK with Configure.app and during booting process, I get the > message saying the driver, "beta driver in NeXTanswer #2488", is loaded > properly, but as soon as I get onto the login menu stage, the screen goes > black and led goes from green to red on the monitor. > I tried with 2 different kinds of PC's and monitors. The video card works > fine with Win95. Does the driver only support VRAM and not DRAM? The > NeXTanswer document regarding the driver only mentions VRAM? > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Please respond to: > > ohjy@softmagic.co.kr > Lewis Oh > SoftMagic Inc. In #9 imagine 128 series 2 with 4MB DRAM comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote, > Hello, > > My current system is a generic pentium 133MHz running Nextstep 3.3J. I am > trying to install #9 Imagine 128 series 2 video card with 4MB DRAM. It is > installed OK with Configure.app and during booting process, I get the > message saying the driver, "beta driver in NeXTanswer #2488", is loaded > properly, but as soon as I get onto the login menu stage, the screen goes > black and led goes from green to red on the monitor. > I tried with 2 different kinds of PC's and monitors. The video card works > fine with Win95. Does the driver only support VRAM and not DRAM? The > NeXTanswer document regarding the driver only mentions VRAM? > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Please respond to: > > ohjy@softmagic.co.kr > Lewis Oh > SoftMagic Inc. I have had similar problems. I've posted several notes in the news groups regarding this. I've established a contact at NeXT, Marc Driftmeyer who had forwarded my complaint to their driver division. When I last spoke to Marc, he said that NeXT had a beta fix they believed would fix the problems. The fix he spoke of was designed for #9's new 8Mb 128 Series 2 board. Now the bad news. If they posted it in NeXTAnswers then NeXT has a bug in their web pages, because it just isn't there. There seems to be entries for the driver (eg NeXTanswers 2350 and 2351 and 2349) however when I try to access #2350 or 2351 their system cant find the page. I emailed NeXT with this problem but I haven't heard a response yet (its been 2 weeks)! However I haven't checked NeXTanswers yet this week (its only Monday). This has put me in a real tight spot. I'm trying to standardize hardware and I was going to go with the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2. We have several existing machines that are up and running so this delay hasn't muddied that up. Unfortunately, I'm trying to order some new machines and I don't want to place an order until this problem is resolved. David A. Johnson, Research Engineer, Northwestern University #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!132.175.109.6!news.sandia.gov!tesuque!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!not-for-mail From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Opinions on Micron for NS/Intel? Date: 1 Apr 1997 00:24:00 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5hpkj1$5qv$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5hhg7a$kvb$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Reply-To: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com In <5hhg7a$kvb$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone have any experiences they would to share running NS/Intel on Micron > machines? > I have NS3.3 running on a Micron P133 Millenia Plus. I had purchased a P100 in April 1995, but it had data corruption problems and I returned it. I got the 133 in September 1995. There was some problem with the BIOS that hung the boot. Once I downgrade the BIOS, it worked just fine. It has worked great ever since. For some reason, Micron uses 70ns EDO RAM. The system still is very fast though. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenberATmhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.onramp.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-22.sprintlink.net!thetimes.pixel.kodak.com!news.kodak.com!newsserver.rdcs.Kodak.COM!not-for-mail From: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: still looking for Dallas Next users Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:29:51 -0500 Organization: Eastman Kodak Company Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3352A1CF.7C6B@why.net> Reply-To: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.98.128.69 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) I am still looking for Dallas Next users to load NS 3.3 on my system, I have a 'license to load' from MTech (resellers, so it would be legal). Hari #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Specs Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:11:34 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <01bc485c$6e584140$0973eccb@ohjy> <33524F2A.41F3@ita1.inow.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Matt Seibert In-Reply-To: <33524F2A.41F3@ita1.inow.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat There is actually a great page for this that I just came across: http://www.computeractive.com/cAi/usedstuff/ has links to some specs for different NeXT hardware TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!taurus!news From: adpark.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: coupons,contests,$ and more Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:04:11 Organization: adnc.com Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5ilref$bi2@taurus.adnc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.158.11.30 Coupons, contests, Free chance at $100,000. Earn $$ passing out isp diskettes almost anywhere in the country. All this and more see: http://www.adpark.com #################################################################### From: "MICHAEL DELAVEGA" Subject: Sound card & Modem Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: EASTERN CONNECTION Message-ID: <01bc4934$681ba320$7d5648a6@internet.usinet.scot151> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.72.86.125 Date: 15 Apr 97 00:28:59 GMT Lines: 8 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!azure.xara.net!xara.net!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!ibm.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!166.72.86.125 My modem has stoped working, when I remove the sound card, (16 bit Aztech) the modem works fine (modem is Boca 33.6 internal), if I put the sound card back in the modem does not work. The sound card works with or without the modem being present. Help !! Thanks Mike #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!news.istar.net!news.synapse.net!news.abs.net!news.j51.com!not-for-mail From: S.P., Woodring Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Save money!!! Date: 15 Apr 1997 01:13:56 GMT Organization: DATAMAX Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5iukok$okg$7002@news.j51.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pma16.ucs.net Do you have a car? Do you like music on the go? Have you given any thought about upgrading the car stereo system? If you have answered yes to any of these questions, Go to http://www.j51.com/datamax/prod01.htm Guaranteed, I can save you a great deal of money. Sincerely, SP, Woodring ______________________________________________________ I know everyone is looking for a way to save money. 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For more information please visit our web site at : http://members.tripod.com/~apexpi/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news1.best.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ilref$bi2@taurus.adnc.com> Date: 15 Apr 1997 01:04:06 GMT Control: cancel <5ilref$bi2@taurus.adnc.com> Message-ID: Sender: adpark.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!61.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New Drive Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:10:59 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.50.61 I installed an additional HD (Quantum fireball 1.2 Gig) internally on the cube. The SCSI is set to #2, the original disk is #1. I ran build disk under NS 3.3 and ended up with what I thought was a bootable disk. I removed the older disk, reconfigured the new disk to ID #1 and tried to reboot. I got and error that said there was a problem running etc/mach_init I looked for etc/mach_init and found that it was not present on the new drive, in fact, almost nothing was present in /etc. Anyone have any idea why BuildDisk didn't just build it completely? Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5iukok$okg$7002@news.j51.com> Date: 15 Apr 1997 02:07:54 GMT Control: cancel <5iukok$okg$7002@news.j51.com> Message-ID: Sender: S.P., Woodring X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MIDI / NS Black Date: 14 Apr 1997 22:54:42 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5iucji$6fj@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <01bc4880$fda2a600$505894ce@cessna> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: daves@en.com In <01bc4880$fda2a600$505894ce@cessna> "David S. Strubbe" wrote: > Anybody out there doing MIDI work with black hardware? Special interface? > What sort of software? > > Any info appreciated - thanks IA > > Dave Strubbe > daves@en.com > > > a few of us ;-) interfaces include some MAC ones, trial and error may be best method or check FAQ for leads. just be sure you get the good NeXT serial cable. check out the Studio 3 app for opcode studio 3; there's also a NeXTMusic web site, and email group with info. The was once a company in Canada (Vancouver?) called Quest, Inc. (but not THAT Quest...) that made specific NeXT midi interfaces, a MidiLink and, I think Midi Link Plus (2 in and 1 out, with merge, I think). This was circa 1992. I had both of them, but had better luck with the simpler MidiLink (sans merge: 1 in, 2 out). appwise, see Musickit folks for Sequence.app, previously known as Presto, Calliope does midi, and much more, and various older, simpler sequncers and/or players. check ftp sites and music resources. -rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!195.31.190.112!news.tin.it!news From: fdonzel@tin.it (C.E.D. F. DONZELLI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HW/SW Dealers & Manufacturers urgently wanted. Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 05:04:25 GMT Organization: Telecom Italia - Video On Line Lines: 75 Message-ID: <5iv2p3$98s@everest.vol.it> Reply-To: fdonzel@tin.it NNTP-Posting-Host: ragusa3-17.tin.it X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 * *************English version available upon request.****************** * INVITO A TUTTE LE AZIENDE INDUSTRIALI E COMMERCIALI OPERANTI NEL SETTORE DELL'HARDWARE & SOFTWARE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C.E.D. - CENTRO ELABORAZIONE DATI F. DONZELLI - Comiso, RG, ITALY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- La ns. Azienda, operante nel campo dei servizi telematici, ha deciso di collegare in Videoconferenza via-Internet ISDN la sua Sede principale e altre cinque sedi periferiche in Italia e all'estero. Nella sede principale, vorremmo installare n. 3 terminali che, pilotati da un'unica unita' centrale, possano intrattenere tre sessioni di videoconferenza con le sedi periferiche in modo assolutamente indipendente ciascuno dagli altri. In sintesi, tre persone devono poter effettuare ciascuno il proprio collegamento, con una diversa sede periferica, nello stesso momento. Sarebbe come avere tre PC collegati a tre linee ISDN diverse, ma noi vorremmo fare tutto utilizzando un'unica linea telefonica, un'unica unita' centrale, un unico modem e tre terminali video, opportunamente equipaggiati con telecamera, microfono, casse acustiche ed eventuali cuffie. I tre terminali verranno utilizzati solo per questo scopo, per cui non ci interessa che siano necessariamente dotati di tastiera, mouse, ecc., ma devono poter prevedere questa possibilita' per il futuro. L'unita' centrale verra' sistemata al piano terra della ns. sede, mentre i tre terminali saranno alloggiati in tre stanze al primo piano. Agli OPeratori interessati chiediamo: - di confermarci la fattibilita' del ns. progetto o, se opportuno, quali sono le modifiche da apportare e per quale motivo; - di segnalarci quali dei Vs. prodotti (HW e SW) ci renderanno possibile la realizzazione nel modo ottimale; con l'occasione, sottolineamo che la Vs. offerta dovra' riferirsi a prodotto finito e perfettamente funzionante, per cui i prezzi che ci proporrete potranno comprendere anche i vari pacchetti software, qualora Vi sia possibile; - qualora non foste nella possibilita' di fornirci tutto l'HW/SW occorrente, Vi preghiamo di segnalarci quali componenti o applicazioni che noi dovremo reperire altrove sono compatibili con i sistemi da Voi forniti; - di informarci riguardo alla compatibilita' tra i Vs. sistemi ed altri eventualmente utilizzati da altre persone o societa' con cui eventualmente dovessimo collegarci, sempre via-Internet ISDN, in videoconferenza (es.: ns. collaboratori, clienti, fornitori, ecc.); - qualcuno ci ha accennato ai "radio modem"; potreste dirci cosa sono esattamente, per quali usi possono essere impiegati e, quindi, se possono prestarsi al caso in questione? - di farci pervenire (CON LA MASSIMA URGENZA!!!) la Vs. proposta/offerta a mezzo e-mail e, contemporaneamente, tramite posta o corriere, unitamente a cataloghi, schede tecniche e listini. Le offerte dovranno pervenire via e-mail e, contemporaneamente, dovranno essere spedite a mezzo espresso (postale o corriere) a: C.E.D. Federico Donzelli Via San Biagio, 86/s I-97013 COMISO (RG) Tel.: ++39-932-966.603 Fax: ++39-932-966.603 E-mail: fdonzel@tin.it #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.inc.net!not-for-mail From: rupert@noir.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: REQUEST SENSE ERROR Date: 15 Apr 1997 06:32:30 GMT Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. http://www.inc.net usenet@news.inc.net Lines: 207 Message-ID: <5iv7du$4h2$2@news.inc.net> References: <5in499$381@twain.mvp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.67.101.37 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: john@wpa.com In <5in499$381@twain.mvp.net> John Bartley wrote: Before I spend money to call NeXT tech support, can anyone give me some free advice about what these errors mean and I how could diagnose what's wrong or better yet, how to fix it? The drive works fine on black hardware but I get this error when it's connected to Intel hardware. I'm using an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card, and have no problems with the external SCSI disk attached to it (the Python DAT drive is daisy-chained with the disk drive) and there is also an internal CD ROM. The drive has a "digital active termination" capability, but I have that deselected and am instead using an actual termination block. ________________________________________________ You think that's bad? I gave-up on worrying about this a long, long, long time ago. I am guessing it's a cheesy NeXT driver, since for the last 18 months, I have never really had any SCSITape problems, but take a look at this: (In other words, don't sweat it) Bests, - Hans Rupert rupert@noir.net Apr 8 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 8 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 8 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 8 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 8 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 8 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 8 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 8 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 8 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 8 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 8 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 8 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 8 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 8 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 8 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 8 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 9 04:05:03 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 04:05:03 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 9 04:05:03 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 04:05:03 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 9 04:05:03 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 04:05:03 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 9 04:05:03 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 04:05:03 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 9 04:05:13 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 04:05:13 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 9 04:05:14 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 04:05:14 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 9 04:05:14 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 04:05:14 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 9 04:05:14 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 04:05:14 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 9 07:51:12 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 07:51:12 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 9 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 9 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 9 16:10:33 europium netmsgserver[22]: port_set_add() returned 4 Apr 10 04:05:02 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 04:05:02 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 10 04:14:23 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Write data (10-byte) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 04:14:23 europium mach: Sense key = 0x0 Sense Code = 0x0 Apr 10 04:15:17 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 04:15:17 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 04:15:17 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 04:15:17 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 04:15:27 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 04:15:27 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 04:15:27 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 04:15:27 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 04:15:27 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 04:15:27 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 04:15:27 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 04:15:27 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 09:34:12 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 09:34:12 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 10 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 10 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 10 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 10 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 11 04:05:03 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 11 04:05:03 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 11 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 11 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 11 16:02:09 europium netmsgserver[22]: port_set_add() returned 4 Apr 12 04:05:03 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 12 04:05:03 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 12 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 12 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 12 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 12 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 12 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 12 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 12 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 12 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 12 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 12 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 12 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 12 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 12 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 12 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 12 12:05:11 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 12 12:05:11 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 14 04:05:04 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 04:05:04 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 14 04:05:04 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 04:05:04 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 14 04:05:04 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 04:05:04 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 14 04:05:04 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Test unit ready returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 04:05:04 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 14 04:05:14 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 04:05:14 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 14 04:05:15 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 04:05:15 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 14 04:05:15 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Rewind returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 04:05:15 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 14 04:05:15 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op Start/Stop returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 04:05:15 europium mach: Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a Apr 14 12:05:01 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 12:05:01 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 14 15:24:45 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 15:24:45 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 14 18:20:27 europium netmsgserver[22]: port_set_add() returned 4 Apr 14 19:40:34 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 14 19:40:34 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 Apr 15 00:39:27 europium mach: st0, target 6, lun 0: op 64(d) (UNDEFINED) returned Check Status, Sense Valid Apr 15 00:39:27 europium mach: Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x20 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!pubxfer.news.psi.net!usenet From: kris@primordialsoft.com (KrisNoland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: S3Virge black screen problem Date: 15 Apr 1997 07:20:32 GMT Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Lines: 52 Message-ID: <5iva80$kcv@client2.news.psi.net> References: <5irvq9$fef@xmission.xmission.com> Reply-To: kris@primordialsoft.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.208.238.77 In article <5irvq9$fef@xmission.xmission.com> planetary writes: > Merlin J. Mathesius wrote: > : Stefan Boehringer wrote: > : > using a DiamondStealth3D2000 under NS3.3 I experience the black > : > screen when switching to vga mode syndrome. I tried the "Boot > : > Graphics"=No and "Shutdown graphics"=No work around. However while > : > shutting down is now working the boot process still sucks. Since the > : > console which shows up with "Boot Graphics"=No is also in vga mode I > : > wonder how this worked to others. > : > > : > Has anybody experienced this on S3Virge as well? Even better- is a > : > workaround known? > > : Yep. I'm experiencing the same problem. :-( > > My P5-133 with a Matrox card barfs when switching to SoftPC full-screen > mode, but works flawlessly in all other ways. > > I thought there was a note on this behavior somewhere, but I can't > remember where. > > ..........kris Hi, I'm having similar problems with a DataExpert ExpertColor DSV3325 (S3Virge). If I don't remember to do the boot: -v thing, my pc clone won't start properly. It just goes to black and stays there. And if I shutdown or restart normally, the machine switches to a black screen, and leaves the hard drive access light on indefinitely. When I bring the computer back up after one of these abnormal shutdowns, it has to run fsck, etc. However, if I shutdown by first going to the restart mini-monitor with alt-numlock, and either shutdown or restart, the next time I start the PC, it starts up cleanly. Does anyone know if the source code for the beta S3Virge driver is available anywhere? I'd be willing to try to fix it with the help of some volunteers testers. later, kris --- Kris Noland Partner Primordial Software #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.246.124.37!nntp.newsfirst.com!nntp.crosslink.net!not-for-mail From: gregor@crosslink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info on ABD NeXT cable? Date: 15 Apr 1997 00:29:33 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5iui5d$88l$2@kronos.crosslink.net> Reply-To: gregor@crosslink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.246.65.165 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Does anyone have a diagram for the pin outs for the D19 cable (ADB) connecting the ND Cube to the soundbox? I have one for the mono monitor cable 3 meter but it's a different animal. Thanks in advance Gregor #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!EU.net!sun4nl!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Symbios Logic 53C875 Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:10:53 GMT Lines: 14 I tried to install NS on a system with the new Asus SC875 SCSI controller (that is an Ultra Wide controller with the Symbios Logic 53C875 chip) The Next Symbios Logic 53C8xx driver did not find the board when installing the system. Any solution for this problem?? hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!ubnnews.unisource.ch!newssrv.ita.tip.net!venere.inet.it!urano.inet.it!news@inet.it From: manini@iestn.inet.it (Luca Manini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: this is a test: please ignore Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:11:34 GMT Organization: I.NET - Customers News Server Lines: 1 Message-ID: <33532a0c.2586569@news.inet.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: iestn.inet.it X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 hi there. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!ubnnews.unisource.ch!newssrv.ita.tip.net!venere.inet.it!urano.inet.it!news@inet.it From: manini@iestn.inet.it (Luca Manini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need Power Supply for Non Turbo BW Pizza Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:13:01 GMT Organization: I.NET - Customers News Server Lines: 8 Message-ID: <33532a37.2629881@news.inet.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: iestn.inet.it X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Hi, the subject says it all. I need a Power Supply for Non Turbo BW Pizza. Possibly from Italy. Bye, Luca. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-ge.switch.ch!news.unige.ch!NewsWatcher!user From: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: JAZ on a black Next - which hardware Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:21:58 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.194.16.70 Aren't there different versions of the JAZ drive, for use on different hardware? What kind of JAZ drive would I have to buy for use on a black NeXT? Are there JAZ drives equipped with a SCSI-2. Does one need a terminator in this case? J. Schumacher Geneva, Switzerland #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!univ-lyon1.fr!fdn.fr!r2d2.fdn.org!free.fdn.fr!news From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT - Additional Info Message-ID: Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) References: <5ij9n0$cd@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:49:40 GMT Lines: 136 I suggest to make a low level format /etc/disk -F /dev/rsdXa. X stands for the logical device number. Next time just buy Dos or Mac cartriges with no software distribution on it. In article <5ij9n0$cd@Masala.CC.UH.EDU>, you wrote: > I have organized the dialog generated by each disktab entry that I mentioned > earlier in "JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT." If some unix guru is listening, maybe > he/she can tell me where my problem is. Thanks. > > Mike Mezzino, Department of Mathematics > University of Houston - Clear Lake > mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > Dialog generated using NeXT's disktab entry > > iomega jaz|iomega jaz 1GB|iomega jaz 1GB G.5512/1:\ > :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1021:nt#64:ns#32:ss#512:rm#5394:\ > :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ > :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:\ > :pa#0:sa#2045952:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#3:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ > :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: > > During boot: > : > iomega jaz 1GB Rev G.60 as sd1 ...... > sd1: UNIT ATTENTION > can't read device capicity > disk unformatted > : > > Last entry In Console after attempt to initialize: > > : > /usr/etc/disk -i -h poincare -l "UntitledDisk" /dev/rsd1a > sd1 (5,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 > SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) > disk name: iomega jaz 1GB > disk type: removable_rw_scsi > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9 > sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x1c > SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) > Read Capacity command failed > sr_io_status = 2 ; check status, sr_esense valid > SCSI status = 02H > Disk Format Failed > > ============================================================================= == > > Dialog generated using user's disktab entry > > IOMEGAJAZ-1G:\ > :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#3584:nt#4:ns#72:ss#1024:rm#5400:\ > :fp#160:bp#0:\ > :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a\ > :pa#0:sa#1032192:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ > :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: > > During boot: > : > iomega jaz 1GB Rev G.60 as sd1 ...... > sd1: UNIT ATTENTION > Waiting for drive to come ready > sd1: UNIT ATTENTION > sd1: UNIT ATTENTION (18 times) > : > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9 > sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x1c > SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) > ERROR: Invalid disk block length of zero > Disk unformatted > : > > Last entry In Console after attempt to initialize: > > : > /usr/etc/disk -i -h poincare -l "UntitledDisk" /dev/rsd1a > sd1 (5,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 > SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) > disk name: iomega jaz 1GB > disk type: removable_rw_scsi > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8 > Target 5: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9 > sd1 (5,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x1c > SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) > Read Capacity command failed > sr_io_status = 2 ; check status, sr_esense valid > SCSI status = 02H > Disk Format Failed > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uky.edu!usenet From: howe@ukcc.uky.edu (Miles Howe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Canon Object Station 41 Help Date: 15 Apr 1997 15:05:08 GMT Organization: Network Computing Systems Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5j05f4$j3q@service3.uky.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.163.28.218 Summary: Parts,Charts and manuals! Keywords: Parts, parts,parts... X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Hi, does anyone know where I might buy new or used parts and manuals for the Canon Object Station 41 ( a 486 VLB system built with NextStep in mind)? Thanks. Regards, Miles Howe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!145.detroit-005.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Formatting drive from CD Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:29:14 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.52.145 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:29077 comp.sys.next.hardware:28314 I have a copy of NS 3.2 user on CD, but it's an upgrade version. Can one still format a blank HD on a NeXT with this CD? I can't seem to get it to do a build disk with the info on the CD if I boot from another formatted HD. Is it possible to boot from the CD? If not, how does one go about making a boot floppy and can one use a regular HD floppy or do you have to use a 2.4 Meg floppy? Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!usenet From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dell Optiplex? Date: 15 Apr 1997 14:06:00 GMT Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5j0208$1adk@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Reply-To: atl2@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: dial49.cc.lehigh.edu Hi all! Are there any important incompatibilities between the Dell Optiplex line (with the integrated 3COM ethernet) and OS 4.1 that I should know about before making my purchase? Regards, Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!clas.ufl.edu!quark.phys.ufl.edu!ddr From: ddr@quark.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Display Driver under NS Intel Date: 1 Apr 1997 20:00:35 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5hrph3$5ae@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> References: <5hol21$27g@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> <3341427f.3968581@news.alt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: quark.phys.ufl.edu In article <3341427f.3968581@news.alt.net> onparole@halfwayhouse.com (convict) writes: >On 31 Mar 1997 15:25:53 GMT, ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) >wrote: > >>I am installing NS 3.3 on a Pentium system. The video card I have is >>a WinFast PCI card which has a Trio64v+ chip. During the install I >>have no problems with video, although it is grayscale. I need to >>select a video driver and do not see the trio 64 as a choice. Is it >>safe to chooses standard vga? This seems to result in a blank screen. >> >>Dan >>-- > >Look in NeXTanswers, document #2382 and #2384. These are generic S3 >drivers which support the Trio64v+ chip for 3.3. Surprisingly, the >driver also works for NS3.2 on PCI bus. >Hope this points you in the right direction. >Bon chance. > ThankS For the suggestions. This is what I had to do: 0) pull out the S3 carD 1) install a isa video card that would work with the default video driver 2) install the driver for the S3 card 3) power down the system 4) install the S3 PCI card again 5) restart the systeM -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Dept., University of Florida Bldg 104 Rm. 5 --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!ubnnews.unisource.ch!newssrv.ita.tip.net!venere.inet.it!urano.inet.it!news@inet.it From: manini@iestn.inet.it (Luca Manini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Power Supply Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:15:55 GMT Organization: I.NET - Customers News Server Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3343604a.3933566@news.inet.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: iestn.inet.it X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 I've a BW non-turbo NeXT Pizza. The power supply seems to be dead. How can I check it ? Where should I look for repair or spare parts (better if in Europe or Italy) ? Thanks, Luca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: Kris Thompson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Professional and Affordable Web Design and Hosting Date: 15 Apr 1997 11:33:36 GMT Organization: Expressions Multimedia Lines: 16 Sender: -no- @pm281-22.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5ivp2g$9h8$4946@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm281-22.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: thomp132 Welcome to Expressions Multimedia... We would like to extend an invitation to visit us at http://www.expressionsmedia.com. We specialize in providing professional yet inexpensive web page designs and web site hosting. Please be forwarned, many of our sites include ActiveX and Java and are optimized for Internet Explorer 3.0, so they many not look right in some browsers. Also, check out our newest site for the Blue Cardinal Motorsport racing team, they can be found at http://www.expressionsmedia.com/bluecard. I would like to thank you for your time, Kris Thompson thomp132@expressionsmedia.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!psinntp!pubxfer.news.psi.net!usenet From: "Andrew J. Smith" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Specs Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:09:23 -0500 Organization: KAL Software, LLC Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3353A833.43BE@tnrealestate.com> References: <01bc485c$6e584140$0973eccb@ohjy> <33524F2A.41F3@ita1.inow.com> Reply-To: ajs@tnrealestate.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.241.20.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) To: Matt Seibert Matt Seibert wrote: > > Can someone fill me in on what the different specs for NeXT Stations vs > Turbo Stations and Cube vs Turbo Cubes are? > > I am looking for a NeXT system, but don't really know what iw what with > the hardware. I have worked with the systems before, but never really > paid attention to which one. > > Is there an archive I could parse? > > Please respond to mseibert@ita1.inow.com > > ThanX! > > Matt Try this out -- scanned NeXT brochures. There are hardware specs for several models there. http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT.html Andrew J. Smith KAL Software, LLC #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does Parallel Zip Drive Work? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:59:53 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3354ec12.34266089@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip10.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 15 Apr 1997 21:00:53 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Does anyone have any information having to do with parallel Zip Drive support? Thanks. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.belwue.de!swidir.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!stns.news.pipex.net!warm.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!iafrica.com!uct.uni.net.za!csir.uni.net.za!wits.uni.net.za!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!bznews.apple.com!nntp3.apple.com!news From: Matthew Shafer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 4.1 install trouble Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:52:03 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33540664.1EE8@apple.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shafma.apple.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) I'm trying to get openstep 4.1 to install on a turbo color adb machine. The hard drive has never been used in a NeXT before, and I'm using an Apple 300i CD-ROM drive (FAQ said this should work). However, when I try to boot from the CD via the 4.1 floppy, I get the following message: Exception #11 (0x2c) at pc 0x438000a sp 0xbfff106 Any suggestions? Matt owenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: JAZ on a black Next - which hardware Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:15:12 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article , Jorg Schumacher wrote: >Aren't there different versions of the JAZ drive, for use on different >hardware? What kind of JAZ drive would I have to buy for use on a black >NeXT? Are there JAZ drives equipped with a SCSI-2. Does one need a >terminator in this case? > I think they're all SCSI-2 (the one I got was, and it didn't have it in BIG letters on the box.) You won't need a terminator; the Jaz drive has one built in. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.tela.com!usenet From: Mike Selner Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATX power supply program wanted Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:16:19 -0500 Organization: Telepool/Tela Internet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3353D403.247A@tela.com> Reply-To: mike@no.spam.please NNTP-Posting-Host: ferry.tela.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Hello, I have a new ATX system with a software-controllable power supply (win95 shuts off the power). Does anyone have an idea how to implement this in NS 3.3? Thanks Mike Selner mike@tela.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planetary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex? Date: 15 Apr 1997 13:34:43 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5j0l8j$1p0@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5j0208$1adk@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970327; sun4m SunOS 5.5.1] atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: : Hi all! : Are there any important incompatibilities between the Dell Optiplex line : (with the integrated 3COM ethernet) and OS 4.1 that I should know about : before making my purchase? Yes. (1) The 3C590 isn't supported by 4.1. (2) The CD-ROM isn't supported by 4.1. I have two of these machines on my desk. They're wonderful. But they require greater care and feeding to get working than other boxen. Everything else works nicely. ...........kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!tdanaher.demon.co.uk!tdanaher.demon.co.uk!user From: tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation Turbo Memory and Printing Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:26:35 +0100 Organization: TelaArch Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tdanaher.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tdanaher.demon.co.uk Lines: 23 If anyone could answer these questions regarding a NeXTstation Colour Turbo I'd be really grateful... Can the NeXTstation physically accept the new 64 MB 72-pin SIMMS? Can it address the full 256MB? We want to use the ColorStation to print PostScript to an HP DesignJet 750C A0 Colour plotter. The HP internal PostScript RIP's handling of its own on-board memory (72 MB) is useless. It has to hold the entire raster in memory before it can print it, and since an AO at 300 dpi is about 390 MB, were not getting much work done. We'd like to use the ColorStation to drive the the 750 in 'dumb' mode (i.e. without its own on-board RIP). The 750 uses the HP LaserWriter driver on our Macintoshes, and I know that there was one in Release 3.0 of NeXTSTEP. Any thoughts / experiences on the feasibility of the above? Thanks in advance Tim Danaher tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!coop.net!frii.com!deimos.frii.com!chk From: chk@deimos.frii.com (Christian Kuhtz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation Turbo Memory and Printing Date: 15 Apr 97 21:43:35 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deimos.frii.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) writes: Can't you just attach a SCSI disk to it, like any other decent PostScript printer?.. I'd prefer that solution anytime over doing what you're doing.. unless you're in ta real bind. Much cleaner. That's why most PostScript printers can spool to disk. >If anyone could answer these questions regarding a NeXTstation Colour >Turbo I'd be really grateful... >Can the NeXTstation physically accept the new 64 MB 72-pin SIMMS? Can it >address the full 256MB? >We want to use the ColorStation to print PostScript to an HP DesignJet >750C A0 Colour plotter. The HP internal PostScript RIP's handling of its >own on-board memory (72 MB) is useless. It has to hold the entire raster >in memory before it can print it, and since an AO at 300 dpi is about 390 >MB, were not getting much work done. We'd like to use the ColorStation to >drive the the 750 in 'dumb' mode (i.e. without its own on-board RIP). The >750 uses the HP LaserWriter driver on our Macintoshes, and I know that >there was one in Release 3.0 of NeXTSTEP. >Any thoughts / experiences on the feasibility of the above? >Thanks in advance >Tim Danaher >tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk -- Christian Kuhtz (work) (home) Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ "Humbly speaking for myself only." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New Guy: Ignorant Question Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 12:53:49 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5j2huu$jq3@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 I'm about to display my ignoarance, but what is ADB/ I've seen a lot about ADB this or non-ADB that, but I can't find anywhere where ADB is explained. Thanx! Matt #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gdm From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Hardware: Cube with ADB? Date: 16 Apr 1997 14:15:55 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5j2mur$7f0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <334520E8.56CD@promo.de> <5j1oah$oh8@pilot.njin.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) lfh@pilot.njin.net (Luis Hernandez) writes: > What's the advantages of getting ADB other than easier > replacement of keyboards and mice? The VaderMouse(tm). Enough said. > What's the Nitro board? The "legendary" Nitro board is a 40MHz 68040 plus some cache on a card that fits into the socketed processor slot on your Turbo NeXT system. It makes things go quite a bit faster. gdm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gdm From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Guy: Ignorant Question Date: 16 Apr 1997 14:19:43 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5j2n5v$7jg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5j2huu$jq3@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) writes: > I'm about to display my ignoarance, but what is ADB/ I've seen a lot about > ADB this or non-ADB that, but I can't find anywhere where ADB is explained. ADB is short for Apple Desktop Bus. It was designed by Apple and introduced originally with the Mac SE in the Olden Days Of Mac Computing. It's a daisy- chaining bus architecture for connecting peripheral devices -- usually key- boards and mice, but sometimes you see copy protection "dongles" and the like. NeXTs came in two varieties: those that implemented ADB and those that did not. From what I understand, choosing between the two is largely a matter of user preference. The non-ADB mouse, for example, looks like a normal, rectangular, two-button mouse. The ADB mouse (VaderMouse(tm)) is a freaky-looking contr- aption that resembles a half-sphere with two wedge-shaped buttons stuck on the top. I should take a photo of mine and scan it. Suffice it to say that the VaderMouse(tm) is way cool. The ADB keyboards have the Command key mounted as a spacebar-like appendage immediately under the spacebar, as opposed to the non-ADB keyboard which have it positioned as a meta-type key. gdm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!in2p3.fr!oleane!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!news.univ-aix.fr!eerie.fr!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does Parallel Zip Drive Work? Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:28:04 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <3354ec12.34266089@news.mindspring.com> <5j1dtp$ksb@news.jump.net> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Matt Seibert In-Reply-To: <5j1dtp$ksb@news.jump.net> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat SCSI should work without problems. TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!feed2.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!en.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What kind of hardware have I got? Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:27:15 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <3353a526.83325509@snews2.zippo.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Allen In-Reply-To: <3353a526.83325509@snews2.zippo.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat You might find help at my website, especially the v-faq section. It will tell you how to get into the machine even if you do not know the password. Once you are logged in, use the hostinfo command in Terminal.app to get the processor info. Email me if you need more help TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Guy: Ignorant Question Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:29:56 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <5j2huu$jq3@news.jump.net> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Matt Seibert In-Reply-To: <5j2huu$jq3@news.jump.net> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat ADB is AppleDesktopBus or something like that. Basically it allows you to v=change mice keyboards with some other compatible ADB types. ADB was included in some later NeXT hardware. TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!roper.uwyo.edu!roper.uwyo.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ZIP drive under NeXTSTEP 3.3 Message-ID: <1997Apr16.113859.26519@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 16 Apr 97 11:38:58 MDT Distribution: world Nntp-Posting-Host: panoramix.uwyo.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Lines: 24 I know that this question has been answer a hundred times already, but I cannot seem to locate any of the previous answers... How does one format a ZIP disk under NeXTSTEP? My disk are IBM pre-formatted and I cannot format them to any other formats... The disk initializtion fails when I tried to format them as NeXT or Mac disks.... The help from the radical.com pages does not solve the problem for me... I just could not get the instruction they provide to work... The problem seems to be when the superblocks (?) are to be written to the disk... Does anyone have any information on how to format a ZIP disk as a NeXT disk? Thanks Nor -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Black Hardware: Cube with ADB? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:54:58 GMT References: <334520E8.56CD@promo.de> <5j1oah$oh8@pilot.njin.net> <5j2mur$7f0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 24 In article <5j2mur$7f0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Gian-Paolo D Musumeci wrote: >lfh@pilot.njin.net (Luis Hernandez) writes: >> What's the advantages of getting ADB other than easier >> replacement of keyboards and mice? > >The VaderMouse(tm). Enough said. > Also known as the BatMouse(tm). >The "legendary" Nitro board is a 40MHz 68040 plus some cache on a card that >fits into the socketed processor slot on your Turbo NeXT system. It makes >things go quite a bit faster. > Apparently they smoke pretty nicely, yeah (although not quite as literally as the MJPEG daughter card). -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!tdanaher.demon.co.uk!tdanaher.demon.co.uk!user From: tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation Turbo Memory and Printing Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:42:30 +0100 Organization: TelaArch Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: tdanaher.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tdanaher.demon.co.uk Lines: 42 Apparently not (not with the mac drivers, any way.) The emphasis here, of course, being on *decent* PostScript printers. The 750C is simply a reverse-engineered CAD plotter. In article , chk@deimos.frii.com (Christian Kuhtz) wrote: > tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) writes: > > Can't you just attach a SCSI disk to it, like any other decent PostScript > printer?.. I'd prefer that solution anytime over doing what you're doing.. > unless you're in ta real bind. > > Much cleaner. That's why most PostScript printers can spool to disk. > > > >If anyone could answer these questions regarding a NeXTstation Colour > >Turbo I'd be really grateful... > > >Can the NeXTstation physically accept the new 64 MB 72-pin SIMMS? Can it > >address the full 256MB? > > >We want to use the ColorStation to print PostScript to an HP DesignJet > >750C A0 Colour plotter. The HP internal PostScript RIP's handling of its > >own on-board memory (72 MB) is useless. It has to hold the entire raster > >in memory before it can print it, and since an AO at 300 dpi is about 390 > >MB, were not getting much work done. We'd like to use the ColorStation to > >drive the the 750 in 'dumb' mode (i.e. without its own on-board RIP). The > >750 uses the HP LaserWriter driver on our Macintoshes, and I know that > >there was one in Release 3.0 of NeXTSTEP. > > >Any thoughts / experiences on the feasibility of the above? > > > >Thanks in advance > > >Tim Danaher > > >tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk > -- > Christian Kuhtz (work) (home) > Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ "Humbly speaking for myself only." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!ra.nrl.navy.mil!not-for-mail From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Black Mitsubishi Monitor on Millenium and PCs Date: 16 Apr 1997 21:29:16 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5j3gbc$9ip$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: prologos.nrl.navy.mil Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28337 comp.sys.next.misc:25592 What is involved in connecting the 20" Mitshubishi monitor on a PC with a Millenium card? Any cable needed (spliter etc?) Any dangers associated? Will the monitor accomodate the scanning rates from the Video Card? What scanning rates these would have to be? Any good thoughts? Thanks all for your kinf responses --john ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2189 or -2165 | | Naval Research Laboratory | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Code 6380 |e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Washington DC 20375-5000 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil| #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!uniserve!news.mindlink.net!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!pcdug From: Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca (Doug Booth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupts... help Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 14:07:44 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5j2mi1$ut0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5ibi4d$i6d@transfer.stratus.com> <5idr8d$9al$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ig5to$f38@news-central.tiac.net> <5igg14$4p2$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> <334CEF11.6668@zg.tel.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: pcdug.mineral.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Thanks to all who responded to my request for information. The problem has now been resolved. It turned out to be a hardware network problem. We had three other NeXTs autonfsmounting the user directories from the machine which was generating the spurios DMA interrupts. Upon checking the console messages from the other machines it turned out that 2 of the 3 were reporting errors in connecting. They were on a thin-net segment of the network. The T connector was replaced on the machine without the errors and this seems to have cleared up the problem. Again thanks to all! Doug Booth School of Mining & Petroleum Engineering University of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA email: Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!easynet-uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!easynet-fr!easynet-buggy!usenet From: "Marc P. Duchesne" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP !!! : REBOOTING - MONITOR - HANG UP Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:21:42 +0200 Organization: [posted via] Easynet SA Lines: 69 Message-ID: <3354D266.4714@easynet.fr> Reply-To: mduchesn@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: max1-paris-22.easynet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26345 comp.sys.next.software:29091 comp.sys.next.hardware:28339 Hi There My system: NeXTCube 16/400 Mo, running NEXTSTEP 3.3 (stand-alone machine, no network) The problem to be fixed: after booting by the Monitor, I cann't access to the Workspace Manager, nor to the login window. Actually, the system hangs up in the Monitor "NeXT Mach Operating System" window. Following is the process: -------------------------------------------------- Wed April 16 13:59:31 GMT+0100 1997 Checking disks /dev/rsd0a: file system clean: skipping check Faking root mount entries Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst0 Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst1 The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it. lo0: adress automatically set to 127.0.0.1 Setting hostname to -AUTOMATIC- Reinitializing nmserver's network portion /usr/etc/mach_swapon: swapping on /private/vm/swapfile.front Cleaning up: /etc/nologin ptys floppy devices editors /tmp /Net. Starting early daemons: syslogd. Starting RPC and network services: portmapApr 16 13:59:47 localhost syslogd: /usr/spool/mqueue/syslog: No such file or directory netinfo lookupd. Mounting remote filesystems Starting file service daemons:. Starting network daemeons: intetdApr 16 13:59:48 localhost netinfod[98]: checking NetInfo database local.nidb sendmail printer. Starting NeXT services: pbs exec_faxes. Starting standard daemons: update cron. Apr 16 13:59:47 localhost rebbot: Reboot complete NXFax kernel server 1.03 loaded %> xwing_fax: log trimmed to 1000 lines %> xwing_fax: Unknown modem [...] %> xwing_fax: Wait for incoming call -------------------------------------------------- To help you to fix this problem, here are some facts: - I have to boot with the monitor ("NeXT > bsd") since 2 years now ! Never have problem like this one. - The login window always did appear after the line: %> xwing_fax: log trimmed to 1000 lines - The only I can do is to shut down the machine with the "Alim" key Thanks for your help, _Marc (Please reply at mduchesn@easynet.fr) -- Marc P. Duchesne mduchesn@easynet.fr -------------------------------------------------- XWinG, The Fiberoptics Consulting & Training Company CE4801, Lisses - F 91048 Evry Cedex, France Tel +33 (0)1 60 86 2050 Fax +33 (0)1 60 86 2053 infos@xwing.oleane.com http://www.optoroute.com/fiber66 -------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!199.184.165.4!news.interport.net!not-for-mail From: humanist@interport.net (Michael Howard) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: pc case covers in acrylic, black, brushed metal... where? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:55:38 GMT Organization: Humanist Movement Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5j3sbi$jb6$1@broadway.interport.net> Reply-To: humanist@interport.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1port37.port.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt:30581 alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned:2188 alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:20967 comp.sys.next.hardware:28340 Anyone know where to get case covers/front panels in acrylic, black, brushed metal, etc? I'm tired of white and "putty-colored" covers. ------------------- Michael Howard - humanist@interport.net PC/Mac technical support Tutoring and english/computerese translation/interpreting Humanist world revolutionary #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Formatting drive from CD Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:23:00 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat unnecessary crosspost squashed > I can't seem to get it to do a build disk with the info on the CD if I > boot from another formatted HD. Is it possible to boot from the CD? If > not, how does one go about making a boot floppy and can one use a regular > HD floppy or do you have to use a 2.4 Meg floppy? You do not need a 2.88 floppy for a boot floppy. checkout http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1921.htmld/1921.html and that should lead you throught the steps of creating a boot floppy for 3.2 TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!szdc!news From: allen@ruislip.demon.co.uk (Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What kind of hardware have I got? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:04:33 GMT Organization: None Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3353a526.83325509@snews2.zippo.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 I am a new user of NeXT hardware (I got it this morning) Could someone tell me what I have. I know it's a silly question but I don't know if it is an 030 or 040 cube. Next computer model no. is N1000 with N4000 display (I also have the printer) Apologies in advance if this is a too stupid question. Now for the really stoopid question. I got the box as part of an office clearout (I've always lusted after one). I've bought and paid for it, but I don't know the password to get in - neither do I have any manuals. Any ideas? TIA Allen allen@ruislip.demon.co.uk -------------------------------- E-mail allen@ruislip.demon.co.uk -------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!128.6.21.17!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!pilot.njin.net!not-for-mail From: lfh@pilot.njin.net (Luis Hernandez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Hardware: Cube with ADB? Date: 16 Apr 1997 01:33:05 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5j1oah$oh8@pilot.njin.net> References: <334520E8.56CD@promo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: pilot.njin.net dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > Boards that do not use the Turbo chipset cannot handle ADB. What's the advantages of getting ADB other than easier replacement of keyboards and mice? > The Nitro board only works in Turbo machines. There's something called the >Pyro that works in (some) 25MHz machines, but I've never seen one. What's the Nitro board? Carl #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Does Parallel Zip Drive Work? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:45:32 GMT References: <3354ec12.34266089@news.mindspring.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 13 In article <3354ec12.34266089@news.mindspring.com>, Mr. Kawasaki wrote: >Does anyone have any information having to do with parallel Zip Drive >support? > Doesn't work, unless someone's written a driver lately. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does Parallel Zip Drive Work? Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 02:38:44 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5j1dtp$ksb@news.jump.net> References: <3354ec12.34266089@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 How about the SCSI version of the ZIP? Matt In article , dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >In article <3354ec12.34266089@news.mindspring.com>, >Mr. Kawasaki wrote: >>Does anyone have any information having to do with parallel Zip Drive >>support? >> > > Doesn't work, unless someone's written a driver lately. > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!not-for-mail From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Power Supply Date: 17 Apr 1997 10:09:08 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5j4ss4$fi8$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <3343604a.3933566@news.inet.it> Reply-To: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de In article <3343604a.3933566@news.inet.it> manini@iestn.inet.it (Luca Manini) writes: > I've a BW non-turbo NeXT Pizza. The power supply seems to be dead. How > can I check it ? Where should I look for repair or spare parts (better > if in Europe or Italy) ? > > > Thanks, Luca Look at: http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!surfnet.nl!tudelft.nl!retromod!not-for-mail From: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5j3sbi$jb6$1@broadway.interport.net> Control: cancel <5j3sbi$jb6$1@broadway.interport.net> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 10:17:47 MET Organization: Delft University of Technology Sender: humanist@interport.net (Michael Howard) Approved: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: thorgal.et.tudelft.nl X-ACHHBot: Processed X-Cancelled-By: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl X-Archive: No X-No-Archive: Yes X-No-More-Headers-After-This-One: True Lines: 2 Article retromoderated by achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl for alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt See the FAQ for a.c.h.h. for details, or contact achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl . #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!jcguijon From: jcguijon@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Juan-Carlos Guijon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MegaPixel Color 17" and PowerMac Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:45:47 -0600 Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: async16-4.remote.ualberta.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Anybody know if it's possible, and what would be required...software,cable,adaptor stuff??? Thanks, any help appreciated. PS Mac is a PowerMac 7600...and I want to use the built in video Chao, JC #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news.gtn.com!news-hh.lynet.de!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!news.knipp.de!news.factum-gmbh.de!amg.de!postmaster From: martin@brutus.amg.de.amg.de (Martin Gaehner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Endless Kernel Traps under 4.1 Date: 17 Apr 1997 08:03:33 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5j4lgl$rf6@hagen.amg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: brutus.amg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hello, we are using an Intel Pentium P133 with OpenStep 4.1 an get endless kernle traps while there is only the Workspace and Terminal-App running on the computer. The machine is equiped with the following components: Intel, TO P133 PCI-Mainboard MATROX MGA Millenium with 2 MB WRAM Grafikadapter ADPATEC E/MASTER ETH PCI Combo Networkadaptor We use the standard hardware driver, that are given on the OS 4.1 CD. The systems works as a netinfo-server Has anybody of You any suggestion what the problem is or has anybody of You similar problems using OS 4.1 on an Intel-Machine Pleas answer to martin@amg.de Thanks in advance Martin Gähner AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!pcdug From: Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca (Doug Booth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Spurious DMA interrupts... help Date: Thu, 03 Apr 97 21:41:18 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5i1862$13po@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Reply-To: Doug.Booth@UAlberta.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: pcdug.mineral.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 I have an old pizza box NeXT which has recently started to hang itself. The machine has 32 MB of RAM and is running 3.3 Looking in the system messages the following appear.... machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110 machine-name mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110 occasionally this one also shows up: machine-name mach: en0: transmitter not ready I had an another machine and swapped the hard-disk and memory to it thinking the problem may be on the motherboard. The same errors appeared. Could this be a memory chip problem or is it a corrupted system or ....???? Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks Doug Booth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news.luc.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.cc.uic.edu!not-for-mail From: "Yuan Li" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,it.comp.hardware.modem,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.ca Subject: Sony CD writer(CDU 924s) for sale!! Date: 17 Apr 1997 17:56:39 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bc4b59$b6eeb100$2a21c183@BING.uic.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip6a-12.dialin.uic.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:70687 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:26918 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:19672 comp.sys.next.hardware:28351 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:29054 comp.sys.sun.hardware:46735 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11047 I have a sony CD writer(CDU 924s) for sale!! only used for less than 20 hous! This device support all the format! it comes with a Corel CD Creator for Win95 and NT. I got it for $550. I only ask for $500 include S&H within the U.S.!! If interest, please send e-mail to: yli2@uic.edu #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: New HD on Old Station? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <01bc4870$f5f14ca0$21422dc7@omni3.omni> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:05:12 GMT Lines: 15 In article <01bc4870$f5f14ca0$21422dc7@omni3.omni> "Darren Reely" writes: > I've asked this before but never saw an answer. > > What newer hard drives will work on an older model Nextstation (25Mhz > 30pin simms)? Any experiences welcome. > Almost anyone, as long as you can configure it to run in asynch mode. My choice is Fujitsu, but that is almost random ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.m.shuttle.de!news.b.shuttle.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!transfer.stratus.com!usenet From: cdodson@cac.stratus.com***(Craig Dodson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PPD for newer HP Laserjets Date: 17 Apr 1997 21:26:29 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5j64i5$bqn@transfer.stratus.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: vortex.cac.stratus.com In article "Robert G. Jacobs" writes: > I currently have an HP Laserjet III on my NeXTstation running > NS3.0 (I have a cable with a serial port connection on one end and a > 25-pin connector on the other) . I'm looking to upgrade to a newer HP > Laserjet that's faster and has built-in postscript (e.g. HP 5MP or HP > 6MP). > > Does anyone have the correct PPD files for either of these printers? Have you tried www.hp.com and www.adobe.com ???? Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!europa.clark.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!freinet.de!not-for-mail From: Alexander Bochmann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS3.3 + S3GenericDispayDriver refresh rate problem Date: 17 Apr 1997 23:42:26 GMT Organization: FreiNet (XLINK-PoP Freiburg) Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5j6ch2$kku@belchen.freinet.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: pipe.infra.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 960917] Hi, I try to use NeXTStep 3.3 on my PC with a 2MB S3 Trio64V+ PCI graphics gard. This generally works (apart from the usual booting problems with this hardware) - but I don't seem to be able to get any refresh rates higher than 60Hz - I can select any resolution at 70Hz or 75Hz, but the system will alway start up in 60Hz mode (with the correct selected resolution, though). Does anyone have an idea what I can try to do short of buying another graphics card? (The card didn't even get detected as Trio64V+ chip until I copied some mode values from the NeXTStep 4.01 DiamondStealth Driver, but this sort of tweaking didn't solve the refresh rate problem yet...) Thanks for your help, Alex. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!supernews.com!news.he.net!night.primate.wisc.edu!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Guy: Ignorant Question Date: 17 Apr 1997 19:29:40 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5j5tn4$l5h@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5j2huu$jq3@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) wrote: > I'm about to display my ignoarance, but what is ADB? I've seen > a lot about ADB this or non-ADB that, but I can't find anywhere > where ADB is explained. Apple Desktop Bus, I believe. This is what all Macs use for connecting keyboards, mice, and some other input devices. You can string several ADB devices together, and thus you only need one connector on the back of the Mac. (there are other advantages to ADB, too). Most of the hardware NeXT manufactured used a NeXT-specific connector for keyboard and mice. Just a short time before NeXT stopped making hardware, they started making NeXTstations which used the ADB standard. So, if you wanted, you could take a keyboard from you Mac and plug it into your NeXTstation. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Guy: Ignorant Question Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 23:33:30 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5j6bvc$sbg@news.jump.net> References: <5j2huu$jq3@news.jump.net> <5j5tn4$l5h@usenet.rpi.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Thanks for all the replies guys! Now I actually know something (mostly) useful. Matt In article <5j5tn4$l5h@usenet.rpi.edu>, Garance A Drosehn wrote: >mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) wrote: >> I'm about to display my ignoarance, but what is ADB? I've seen >> a lot about ADB this or non-ADB that, but I can't find anywhere >> where ADB is explained. > >Apple Desktop Bus, I believe. > >This is what all Macs use for connecting keyboards, mice, and some >other input devices. You can string several ADB devices together, >and thus you only need one connector on the back of the Mac. (there >are other advantages to ADB, too). > >Most of the hardware NeXT manufactured used a NeXT-specific connector >for keyboard and mice. Just a short time before NeXT stopped making >hardware, they started making NeXTstations which used the ADB >standard. So, if you wanted, you could take a keyboard from you >Mac and plug it into your NeXTstation. > >--- >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu >Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Printer pinouts? Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 10:29:51 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: <5i20o2$7ri$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk Lines: 22 In article <5i20o2$7ri$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: > In article <5i1qhl$8t9$1@nntp1.mcs.net>, wrote: > >I just got a NeXT laser printer... minus the cable. > >Does anyone know the pinouts for the cable? > > It is a DB9M to DB9M straight thru pin-to-pin connection. > As a matter of fact, one of my NeXT printer use the cable that goes > with a VGA-Keyboard-Mouse switch box. I use the 9-pin cable (male-male). > This cable is shorter than the original black cable, but it works fine If the cable length has been changed, then you've been lucky if it still works (at least as far as I've been told). The NeXT printer interface is a glorious hack (in the very best of ways), and relies on the propagation times along the cable for some of its timing operations. Changing the length risks the timings being wrong, and the printer locking up. There's a file on one of the ftp sites which documents some of this and describes how someone build a longer(!) cable. $an #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need Help with USR 28,800 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:37:24 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 22 Message-ID: <33573236.464771@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip163.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 18 Apr 1997 03:36:36 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 I have everything setup correctly according to the PPP_Instructions.rtf I got from ftp.peak.org. It says get Dialup.pkg, PPP2.2, SimpleInterNextStarter.pkg, and Perl.pkg? I downloaded them, went through every step in the instructions (pretty simple), but now after I run Dialup.app in the LocalApps directory, I clicked on Connect. The computer is busy for a couple seconds, then Dialup.app reports "Disconnecting". I checked in /usr/adm/ppp2.2.log, this is what it says: Apr 17 23:21:36 satan pppd[261]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Apr 17 23:21:37 satan pppd[261]: Failed to open /dev/cufb: No such device Apr 17 23:21:37 satan pppd[261]: Exit. I have a USR Sportster 28800, PnP. It is on com2 in win 95, so I put it on "Port B" in OPENSTEP. Does anyone know the answer? Thanks very much. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: abuse@mindspring.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <3386e31a.19080346@news.mindspring.com> Date: 18 Apr 1997 03:48:13 GMT Control: cancel <3386e31a.19080346@news.mindspring.com> Message-ID: Sender: (Jethro) X-Cancelled-By: abuse@mindspring.com Approved: abuse@mindspring.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by abuse@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.icm.edu.pl!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!supernews.com!news From: "Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Numerous Panics NS3.3 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:00:07 -0400 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3356C797.3224@stan.donet.com> Reply-To: zlewanto@stan.donet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: burnt.donet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) During installation and while running NS3.3 on Gigabyte GA-5886VX(P/166) Motherboard, 32MB 60ns RAM, Matrox MGA Millenium VGA 4MB VRAM, Intel 430VX Chip Set, 512KB Cache, Award BIOS ver 4.51PG, 2- 3.1GB Western Digital IDE HDs, 3.5" floppy, MS IntellaMouse 105 Keyboard 16-bit Wavetable Sound w/Speakers CTX 700-VL monitor Nitsumi 8x CD-ROM Connor 1GB ISA Tape B/U 3Com Etherlink XL (no NS driver for this, awaiting Cogent EM960C) I get numerous, random panics. Typical panic message reads: Memory access error (1,1,e0284bf4). I am using the latest NS3.3 drivers, have isloated to running with minimum H/W configuration - these make no difference. Have run Norton Utilities from the Windows95 side, but can find no error in memory or system. NextStep support forlks have been very helpful in guiding and suggest that I have a hardware or hardware configuration problem. If you have similar configuration, pls share your experience on this motherboard/chipset configuarion - good, bad, and the ugly. Any help, insight, suggestion will be greatly appreciated. If I end up replading the motherboard and chipset, shouold I consider another configuration? or is the Gateway/Triton system a good one for NS3.3 (and beyond in future). Stan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!newsbuffer.myriad.net!news.myriad.net!usenet From: sjohnson@myriad.net (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: FAXing with PPP Date: 18 Apr 1997 05:01:57 GMT Organization: DigiPhone Corporation, Bryan/College Station Texas 409-693-8885 Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5j6v85$bm@news.myriad.net> References: <5itiq6$17m@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup559.myriad.net In-Reply-To: <5itiq6$17m@news.acns.nwu.edu> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28360 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26362 On 04/14/97, daj@nwu.edu wrote: >I have a ZyXEL 2864 FAX/Modem. I have the modem connected to the first com port (serial port 1, /dev/cufa). I am currently using the modem and PPP to dial out. What I'd like to know is, what needs to be done to allow me to use the FAX features of the modem? When I configure a FAX modem in the PrinterManager, then the port (/dev/cufa) is busy when I try to use PPP. Also, when I have established a modem queue and I try to use it it appears that nothing gets sent. Do I need to send some sort of modem commands to switch the modem to fax mode? > >David A. Johnson, >Research Engineer, >Northwestern University > Do you have fax software, such as NXFax or there are some which may require a good bit of configuring available on NEXTSTEP ftp sites? The NS built in fax driver doesn't support Zyxel or very many other modems either. -- --- Stephen Johnson, sjohnson@myriad.net Computer Consulting Intl, LTD PO Box 1046 College Station, TX 77841 409-778-4717 "the Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests" President Andrew Jackson, June 8, 1845 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!thor.cmp.ilstu.edu!news From: "Eric A. Dubiel" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Quantum 1GB Intermittant object.station problem Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 01:03:24 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33571C22.61AF@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Reply-To: eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: h0010111.smith.ilstu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Hi, I have a Quantum 1GB SCSI drive that came with my object.station and I have an intermittant problem- The drive only sometimes starts up, and now it RARELY starts up, the other 500 MB drive comes up fine, but this one - no luck. I've never had a head crash (or any other harddrive HW problem...), but are these the symptoms? Any response would be appreciated, as well as do-it-yourself data recovery techniques... -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 --- MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quantum 1GB Intermittant object.station problem Date: 18 Apr 1997 06:14:57 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5j73h1$dp0$1@news.digifix.com> References: <33571C22.61AF@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: <33571C22.61AF@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 04/17/97, "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote: >Hi, I have a Quantum 1GB SCSI drive that came with my object.station and >I have an intermittant problem- >The drive only sometimes starts up, and now it RARELY starts up, the >other 500 MB drive comes up fine, but this one - no luck. > >I've never had a head crash (or any other harddrive HW problem...), but >are these the symptoms? > >Any response would be appreciated, as well as do-it-yourself data >recovery techniques... Next time it starts back everything up and replace the drive.. do not risk your data... eventually it just won't start. I had had no problems with one of the drives, but was concerned and decided to replace it. After I installed the new drive (it was a completely separate drive, in the machine, the Quantum was in an enclosure) it would NOT start up again and I lost everything. I had no option as far as backup goes. I've lost about a half dozen Quantum Empire drives from Object Stations over the last year and a bit... I will NEVER buy Quantum again. -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: greglarson@aol.com (GregLarson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mega-Pixal on a MAC??? Date: 18 Apr 1997 05:10:49 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: <19970418051000.BAA07467@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I have a mega-pixal 17" aand a Next laser printewr I'd like to use on my Power Mac. Any Odeas / experience. greg Anybody know if it's possible, and what would be required...software,cable,adaptor stuff??? Thanks, any help appreciated. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: greglarson@aol.com (GregLarson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Laser Pinter on a MAC??? Date: 18 Apr 1997 05:12:10 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: <19970418051100.BAA07562@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com I have a mega-pixal 17" and a Next laser printewr I'd like to use on my Power Mac. Any Odeas / experience. greg Anybody know if it's possible, and what would be required...software,cable,adaptor stuff??? Thanks, any help appreciated. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news.grnet.gr!btnet-feed2!easynet-uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!easynet-fr!easynet-buggy!usenet From: "Marc P. Duchesne" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP NEEDED !!! : REBOOTING - MONITOR HANG UP Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:33:23 +0200 Organization: Marc Duchesne IT Consultant Lines: 72 Message-ID: <335723C3.26F5@easynet.fr> References: <5j4lg1$rf6@hagen.amg.de> Reply-To: mduchesn@easynet.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: max1-paris-50.easynet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26368 comp.sys.next.hardware:28365 Hi There My system: NeXTCube 16/400 Mo, running NEXTSTEP 3.3 (stand-alone machine, no network) The problem to be fixed: after booting by the Monitor, I cann't access to the Workspace Manager, nor to the login window. Actually, the system hangs up in the Monitor "NeXT Mach Operating System" window. Following is the process: -------------------------------------------------- Wed April 16 13:59:31 GMT+0100 1997 Checking disks /dev/rsd0a: file system clean: skipping check Faking root mount entries Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst0 Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst1 The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it. lo0: adress automatically set to 127.0.0.1 Setting hostname to -AUTOMATIC- Reinitializing nmserver's network portion /usr/etc/mach_swapon: swapping on /private/vm/swapfile.front Cleaning up: /etc/nologin ptys floppy devices editors /tmp /Net. Starting early daemons: syslogd. Starting RPC and network services: portmapApr 16 13:59:47 localhost syslogd: /usr/spool/mqueue/syslog: No such file or directory netinfo lookupd. Mounting remote filesystems Starting file service daemons:. Starting network daemeons: intetdApr 16 13:59:48 localhost netinfod[98]: checking NetInfo database local.nidb sendmail printer. Starting NeXT services: pbs exec_faxes. Starting standard daemons: update cron. Apr 16 13:59:47 localhost rebbot: Reboot complete NXFax kernel server 1.03 loaded %> xwing_fax: log trimmed to 1000 lines %> xwing_fax: Unknown modem [...] %> xwing_fax: Wait for incoming call -------------------------------------------------- To help you to fix this problem, here are some facts: - I have to boot with the monitor ("NeXT > bsd") since 2 years now ! Never have problem like this one. - The login window always did appear after the line: %> xwing_fax: log trimmed to 1000 lines - The only I can do is to shut down the machine with the "Alim" key Thanks for your help, _Marc Please reply at/ mailto: mduchesn@easynet.fr -- Marc P. Duchesne mduchesn@easynet.fr -------------------------------------------------- XWinG, The Fiberoptics Consulting & Training Company CE4801, Lisses - F 91048 Evry Cedex, France Tel +33 (0)1 60 86 2050 Fax +33 (0)1 60 86 2053 infos@xwing.oleane.com http://www.optoroute.com/fiber66 -------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!usenet From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Driver for 3COM Etherlink XL Date: 18 Apr 1997 11:58:29 GMT Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5j7nl5$fuo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Reply-To: atl2@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: dial47.cc.lehigh.edu Hi all! Anyone know if there's a driver for the 3COM Etherlink XL in the works? Cheers! Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!tdanaher.demon.co.uk!tdanaher.demon.co.uk!user From: tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nitro Board - any info? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:04:57 +0100 Organization: TelaArch Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tdanaher.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tdanaher.demon.co.uk Lines: 10 Hello, everyone I've seen some mention in varius fora of the Nitro accelerator for Turbo stations. Anyoone got any info on them? Are they still available? Thanks in advance Tim tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Mega-Pixal on a MAC??? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:10:16 GMT References: <19970418051000.BAA07467@ladder01.news.aol.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <19970418051000.BAA07467@ladder01.news.aol.com>, GregLarson wrote: >I have a mega-pixal 17" aand a Next laser printewr I'd like to use on my >Power Mac. Any Odeas / experience. greg > If you mean colour MegaPixel then it could likely work, provided you have the correct cable and one of those Mac monitor-fakeout things. The printer won't work with anything but a NeXT unless you put tonnes of high-powered electronics design work into it and value your time at about the rate of those prison inmates who make the jeans. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Linux (much) faster than NextStep (Rhapsody) Date: 18 Apr 1997 15:29:48 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Lines: 82 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5j841c$3qo4@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f182-194.net.wisc.edu Keywords: benchmarks speed linux nextstep rhapsody X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:64268 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:211038 comp.sys.next.hardware:28369 I downloaded the Byte Unix Benchmarks and did some tests on Linux and OpenStep/Mach 4.1 running on the same system. First of all, here's the configuration: Generic PCI motherboard, 256Kb L2 Cache, 150 Mhz pentium, 48 MB RAM BusLogic Ultra SCSI IBM 2 gig Ultra drive OpenStep/Mach 4.1 Linux (RedHat) 4.1 I'll include the tables below. The most stunning thing in these were the disk writes - more than 10x faster in Linux! I had noticed before that the Linux filesystem seemed much more responsive - for example, doing a recursive chmod on a large directory tree is blazingly fast. The other speed advantages in Linux seem mainly on the Unix stuff, not on raw calculations such as recursion or math. This makes me hope that Rhapsody will see a big upgrade of the BSD layer!! Maybe they should use the ext2 filesystem - it appears much more responsive than ufs. Here are results (the Baseline numbers used for comparison are for an 040 cube system) ----------------------- OPENSTEP/MACH 4.1: INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (double) 2703.3 29558.6 10.9 Arithmetic Test (long) 2827.0 22837.5 8.1 Arithmetic Test (register) 2847.5 22869.3 8.0 C Compiler Test 24.1 80.9 3.4 Dhrystone 2(w/o register vars) 24179.3 183811.8 7.6 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 26.4 1.1 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 2140.0 4.1 File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 75464.0 4.1 File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 3076.0 5.1 Pipe-based Context Switching 1153.5 6634.8 5.8 Process Creation Test 34.0 144.0 4.2 Recursion--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 3233.4 10.0 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 15.0 3.9 ========= SUM of 13 items 76.4 AVERAGE 5.9 ----------------------------- LINUX REDHAT 4.1 (using kernel 2.0.28) INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 26468.3 9.8 Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 22904.4 8.1 Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 22925.9 8.1 C Compiler Test 24.1 168.8 7.0 Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 189999.1 7.9 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 143.0 6.0 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 4159.0 8.0 File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 253931.0 13.9 File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 34497.0 57.5 Pipe-based Context Switching 1153.5 30887.4 26.8 Process Creation Test 34.0 928.7 27.3 Recursion --Tower of Hanoi 323.8 3231.1 10.0 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 39.0 10.3 ========= SUM of 13 items 200.6 AVERAGE 15.4 ---------------------------- I found it interesting. Too bad Linux uses X as it's GUI (and Gnustep isn't complete yet) - otherwise I might be more inclined to use it regularly based on these results . . . -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://smithlab.chem.wisc.edu/PersonalPages/giddings/giddings.html http://www.barbarian.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.m.shuttle.de!news.b.shuttle.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gdm From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nitro Board - any info? Date: 18 Apr 1997 16:39:09 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5j883d$l4v@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) writes: > I've seen some mention in varius fora of the Nitro accelerator for Turbo > stations. Anyoone got any info on them? Are they still available? The Nitro board was never commonly available. It was an engineering proto- type. If you can find one, they tend to cost between $1500 and $2000. (Yes, you could buy a low-end Pentium running OpenStep for that and use it as a compute server.) gdm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!8.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nitro Board - any info? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:08:09 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <5j883d$l4v@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.8 In article <5j883d$l4v@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) wrote: > tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) writes: > > I've seen some mention in varius fora of the Nitro accelerator for Turbo > > stations. Anyoone got any info on them? Are they still available? > > The Nitro board was never commonly available. It was an engineering proto- > type. > > If you can find one, they tend to cost between $1500 and $2000. > > (Yes, you could buy a low-end Pentium running OpenStep for that and use it > as a compute server.) Sam Goldberger does sell something called a "Pyro" accellerator for non-turbo '040 machines. check it out at: www.orb.com Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!rjacobs.Stanford.EDU!rob From: "Robert G. Jacobs" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PPD for newer HP Laserjets Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:11:08 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <5j64i5$bqn@transfer.stratus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rjacobs.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5j64i5$bqn@transfer.stratus.com> On 17 Apr 1997, Craig Dodson wrote: > In article > "Robert G. Jacobs" writes: > > I currently have an HP Laserjet III on my NeXTstation running > > NS3.0 (I have a cable with a serial port connection on one end and a > > 25-pin connector on the other) . I'm looking to upgrade to a newer HP > > Laserjet that's faster and has built-in postscript (e.g. HP 5MP or HP > > 6MP). > > > > Does anyone have the correct PPD files for either of these printers? > > Have you tried www.hp.com and www.adobe.com ???? > > Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) > > Yes. I still can't get a text PPD file for the HP 6MP. Robert #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.m.shuttle.de!news.b.shuttle.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!rutgers.rutgers.edu!news.columbia.edu!osiris.giss.nasa.gov!newsfeed.gsfc.nasa.gov!usenet From: Fredrik Nyman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PPD for newer HP Laserjets Date: 18 Apr 1997 15:22:03 -0400 Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: abattoir-f.gsfc.nasa.gov X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28373 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26382 "Robert G. Jacobs" writes: > I currently have an HP Laserjet III on my NeXTstation running > NS3.0 (I have a cable with a serial port connection on one end and a > 25-pin connector on the other) . I'm looking to upgrade to a newer HP > Laserjet that's faster and has built-in postscript (e.g. HP 5MP or HP > 6MP). > > Does anyone have the correct PPD files for either of these printers? ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/printerdrivers/win/all has a huge collection of ppd files. You'll find the HP PPD's there, and they'll work fine with your NeXT with little if any tweaking. -- Fredrik Nyman Hughes STX Work NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Play Code 505 B32/N231 Greenbelt, MD 20771 Fax 301-614-5270 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Nitro Board - any info? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:50:55 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 19 In article , Tim Danaher wrote: >Hello, everyone > >I've seen some mention in varius fora of the Nitro accelerator for Turbo >stations. Anyoone got any info on them? Are they still available? > I think there were about 5 built. They're a daughterboard that plug into the CPU socket of a NeXTstation Turbo/NeXTstation Turbo Color (and a NeXTcube Turbo with some physical hackery.) The board holds a 68040 running at 40MHz and a 128K (I think) cache; 4-way? can't remember. And they aren't available. And I don't have one. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!not-for-mail From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing NT and Mach on 4GB Drives Date: 18 Apr 1997 21:01:15 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5j8ner$4tv$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: shark.orcacomputer.com.blacksburg.va.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi, I'm having trouble installing OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I have the following configuration: Micron Pro2 Plus Dual Pentium Pros @ 200MHz 128 MB RAM Western Digital --> 4GB <-- SCSI Drive Adaptec 2940UW SCSI Controller Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 PCI Plextor 12X SCSI CD ROM 3COM EtherLink III 509B Combo ISA My 4GB drive has two 2GB partitions. The first is FAT16 running NT and the second is OPENSTEP for Mach which is installed, configured and booting fine except for one problem: Workspace reports that only 448MB are available. There should be 1.5 GB or more available. When I computed the size of my local directories I only got 172MB. I've heard that OPENSTEP can only address up to 2.7GB. When I add 2048 (first partition), 448 (free) and 172 (used) that's about what I get. I'm assuming at this point that I need to follow some special instructions concerning installation. I've browsed through NeXTanswers but wasn't able to locate the article I need. Any help you can provide will be appreciated. I'd like to work on this machine this weekend if possible. Thank you, Chuck Esterbrook -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: greglarson@aol.com (GregLarson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pin Diag. For Meg.Pix. Monitor??? Date: 18 Apr 1997 22:00:51 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 3 Message-ID: <19970418215901.RAA00627@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Anyone out there with the pin out diagram or assignments for the Mega Pixal n400 monitor db-25? thanks greg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: OpenStep vs. Linux Benchmarks on Web Site Date: 18 Apr 1997 22:41:20 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5j8tag$4ns4@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: animas.chem.wisc.edu Keywords: benchmarks X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:64349 comp.sys.next.hardware:28377 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:211206 Due to popular demand, I have put the benchmarks that I posted here earlier (Linux (much) faster than NextStep (Rhapsody)) at http://www.barbarian.com/benchmarks.html Apparently some people had trouble with the formatting of the message I posted. Since I have these up on the web, I might as well collect other people's benchmarks. If you run the Byte Benchmark suite on your computer, please send the results to me, along with your system configuration (hardware and OS). Also let me know if you re-compiled or used the binaries there. I would be interested in seing these benchmarks run on other Unix machines as well (Solaris, SGI, etc). -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://smithlab.chem.wisc.edu/PersonalPages/giddings/giddings.html http://www.barbarian.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!not-for-mail From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nitro Board - any info? Date: 19 Apr 1997 01:43:10 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5j97ve$e7s$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: Reply-To: jrudd@cygnus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: arcadia.cygnus.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(s) Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca In David Evans wrote: > In article , > Tim Danaher wrote: > >Hello, everyone > > > >I've seen some mention in varius fora of the Nitro accelerator for Turbo > >stations. Anyoone got any info on them? Are they still available? > > > > I think there were about 5 built. They're a daughterboard that plug into the > CPU socket of a NeXTstation Turbo/NeXTstation Turbo Color (and a NeXTcube Turbo > with some physical hackery.) The board holds a 68040 running at 40MHz and a > 128K (I think) cache; 4-way? can't remember. > And they aren't available. And I don't have one. There was also a project to put a '060 into a daughterboard in the cpu socket. Does anyone know what happened to THAT? -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: pc case covers in acrylic, black, brushed metal... where? Date: 19 Apr 1997 01:51:05 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 21 Message-ID: <19970419015000.VAA18996@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5j3sbi$jb6$1@broadway.interport.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Antec, makes black cases, as well as mice and keyboards... Most computer stores (those which order from reseller Ingram Micro) can get their stuff. Logitech has done designer mice as well... One of the major keyboard manufacturers, Keytronics? has a "Eurotech" line which is black, and has introduced a lifetime designer model which is black. I've had good luck painting cables for my NeXT by starting with gloss black, then adding two coats of flat black. It's a bit dark, and I'm wondering if I should try gloss, then a dark matte gray, and then the flat black... William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: ISASerialPort0: Unable to determine chip type Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 02:44:26 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 25 Message-ID: <33583002.572155@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip170.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 18 Apr 1997 21:45:46 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 I installed SimpleInterNextStarter, ppp2.2, Dialup.app, and SampleFiles from ftp.peak.org. I also downloaded the PPP_Instructions.rtf and followed step by step to get OPENSTEP 4.1 configured so I can connect to Mindspring. After I run Dialup.app and hit connect, my computer is busy for a couple seconds, then Dialup.app reports "Disconnected". I looked in /usr/adm/ppp2.2.log. It said "No Such Device/dev/cufb" (or something to that effect). I was told to install the SerialPort and PortServer drivers. I did that rebooted and I looked in /usr/adm/messages and it says this. I guess the first message says the OPENSTEP sees my USR modem. Apr 18 17:17:55 satan mach: PnP: csn 2: USR0011 s/n 0x35353535 Apr 18 17:17:55 satan mach: ISASerialPort0: Unable to determine chip type at I/O base 0x2f8 Can anyone tell me what this means and how to fix it? All I want is to be able to go online from OPENSTEP, thanks a lot. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: stephen farrell Subject: Re: Linux (much) faster than NextStep (Rhapsody) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: phaedrus.uchicago.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <87912fkdn2.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 108 Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 References: <5j841c$3qo4@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.89) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 01:25:05 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:64366 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:211259 comp.sys.next.hardware:28381 giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes: these results are not surprising; linux is a damn fast kernel and the development version (2.1.x) is even faster. wrt ext2 vs. ffs, ext2 is much faster with operations that involve meta-data (i.e., creating files), b/c it does these asynchronously (meaning it doesn't commit them to stable storage immediately -- trying typing sync after untarring some files). the bsd folks say that what they lose in speed they make up in reliability... i personally haven't seen this (the only filesystem i've had get hosed regularly was NetBSD's). linux also wins over mach for the same reason it (and *BSD) wins over NT -- it's monolithic, non-message-passing architecture. there are trade-offs here: there are obviously arguments for microkernels, but one of them is not usually speed. (btw, the argument i've seen most persuading might be one you wouldn't expect -- debugging, but that's another issue). anyway, i agree with your sentiment that an openstep-compliant application layer on top of the linux kernel would be a very good thing. i'd really like to see apple put some money into the gnustep project -- i wonder if they could be approached about this... add it to the mklinux project (which, you'll note, was not dropped in apple's restructuring). --steve farrell > I downloaded the Byte Unix Benchmarks and did some tests on Linux and > OpenStep/Mach 4.1 running on the same system. First of all, here's the > configuration: > > Generic PCI motherboard, 256Kb L2 Cache, 150 Mhz pentium, 48 MB RAM > BusLogic Ultra SCSI > IBM 2 gig Ultra drive > OpenStep/Mach 4.1 > Linux (RedHat) 4.1 > > I'll include the tables below. The most stunning thing in these were the > disk writes - more than 10x faster in Linux! I had noticed before that the > Linux filesystem seemed much more responsive - for example, doing a recursive > chmod on a large directory tree is blazingly fast. The other speed > advantages in Linux seem mainly on the Unix stuff, not on raw calculations > such as recursion or math. > > This makes me hope that Rhapsody will see a big upgrade of the BSD layer!! > Maybe they should use the ext2 filesystem - it appears much more responsive > than ufs. > > Here are results (the Baseline numbers used for comparison are for an 040 > cube system) > > ----------------------- > OPENSTEP/MACH 4.1: > INDEX VALUES > TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX > > Arithmetic Test (double) 2703.3 29558.6 10.9 > Arithmetic Test (long) 2827.0 22837.5 8.1 > Arithmetic Test (register) 2847.5 22869.3 8.0 > C Compiler Test 24.1 80.9 3.4 > Dhrystone 2(w/o register vars) 24179.3 183811.8 7.6 > Execl Throughput Test 23.7 26.4 1.1 > File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 2140.0 4.1 > File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 75464.0 4.1 > File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 3076.0 5.1 > Pipe-based Context Switching 1153.5 6634.8 5.8 > Process Creation Test 34.0 144.0 4.2 > Recursion--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 3233.4 10.0 > Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 15.0 3.9 > ========= > SUM of 13 items 76.4 > AVERAGE 5.9 > ----------------------------- > LINUX REDHAT 4.1 (using kernel 2.0.28) > INDEX VALUES > TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX > > Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 26468.3 9.8 > Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 22904.4 8.1 > Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 22925.9 8.1 > C Compiler Test 24.1 168.8 7.0 > Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 189999.1 7.9 > Execl Throughput Test 23.7 143.0 6.0 > File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 4159.0 8.0 > File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 253931.0 13.9 > File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 34497.0 57.5 > Pipe-based Context Switching 1153.5 30887.4 26.8 > Process Creation Test 34.0 928.7 27.3 > Recursion --Tower of Hanoi 323.8 3231.1 10.0 > Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 39.0 10.3 > ========= > SUM of 13 items 200.6 > AVERAGE 15.4 > > ---------------------------- > > I found it interesting. Too bad Linux uses X as it's GUI (and Gnustep isn't > complete yet) - otherwise I might be more inclined to use it regularly based > on these results . . . > > > -- > Michael Giddings > giddings@chem.wisc.edu > giddings@barbarian.com > (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 > http://smithlab.chem.wisc.edu/PersonalPages/giddings/giddings.html > http://www.barbarian.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!n4tor.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: pc case covers in acrylic, black, brushed metal... where? Date: 19 Apr 1997 04:12:53 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5j9go5$adk$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5j3sbi$jb6$1@broadway.interport.net> <19970419015000.VAA18996@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: <19970419015000.VAA18996@ladder01.news.aol.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 04/18/97, WillAdams wrote: >Antec, makes black cases, as well as mice and keyboards... Most computer >stores (those which order from reseller Ingram Micro) can get their stuff. > PC Power and Cooling also has Black Cases, and their quality is second to none. >Logitech has done designer mice as well... > >One of the major keyboard manufacturers, Keytronics? has a "Eurotech" line >which is black, and has introduced a lifetime designer model which is >black. > Last time I was in a computer city in Minnesota they had IBM keyboards in Black... >I've had good luck painting cables for my NeXT by starting with gloss >black, then adding two coats of flat black. It's a bit dark, and I'm >wondering if I should try gloss, then a dark matte gray, and then the flat >black... > -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: greglarson@aol.com (GregLarson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help, Pinouts on MegaPixal Date: 19 Apr 1997 06:39:00 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <19970419063801.CAA10442@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Help, anyone have a Pinout diagram for the on MegaPixal monitor??? greg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!irene.mit.edu!hsla From: hsla@irene.mit.edu (LA, HOSEONG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Intel Booting problem Date: 19 Apr 1997 01:43 EST Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science Lines: 34 Distribution: na Message-ID: <19APR199701434782@irene.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: irene.mit.edu News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50 It happened twice. When it happened for the first time, I just thought I must have done something bad. Now it seems there is something weird going on. The problem is: once in a while, after the machine boots, it fails to access certain files. For example, in the second time of failure, the \dev was missing. Then whatever I do, e.g. changing a directory, it hangs for a while. So I decide to reboot, then "halt" fails in the mini monitor. Then it fails to reboot. The error message is simply Disc Error; Media Error I can boot into the single usermode using CD-ROM, then I find those device tables are not accessible and cannot fsck. This looks like an apparent hard disc failure. But, in fact the hard disk is "physically" fine because I have WIN95 on the first partition of the same hard disk and it works fine. Just the second OPENSTEP partition fails. I wonder if anyone out there had a similar experience with an Intel machine. It has happened twice in 8 1/2 months period: once in feb and today just a moment ago. Luckily, I still keep my reliable black around, although I feel it is slow now. My machine is DELL Dimension XPS P90. IDE two HD connected to the primary, a CD-ROM drive to the secondary. One hunch is often the second HD in the primary fails to be recognized after the first login of each boot, but this HD is only for win95. I don't know why once in a while the boot sector gets corrupted. Last time, I simply reinstalled everything. This time I don't want to do it again. If I cannot get it back, I am gonna delete the OPENSTEP partition and dedicate the machine solely to WIN95. (This is a threat to the community. :-)) Please let me know if anyone knows what is going on. Many thanks in advance. hs #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!PaperBoy.LiveNet.Net!not-for-mail From: Joe Franklin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Save over 50% Date: 18 Apr 1997 17:35:10 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5j8bce$8pv$5628@PaperBoy.LiveNet.Net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup20.ds1.livenet.net I found some great deals that saved me over 50% on some products. Some deals are better than others. Just browse around and see if you find something you like at the virtual Mall. at http://members.aol.com/Jfrank1069 Happy bargain hunting!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is being brought to you by Dynamic Mail software - the powerful online marketing tool to explode your business easier and faster. For more information please visit our web site at : http://www.australia.net.au/~apexpi/dynamail.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does USR Sportster 28800 work in OPENSTEP? Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:45:05 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3358e81d.32348957@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip95.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 19 Apr 1997 10:46:24 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 I have had problems that led me and others to believe that the errors I am having indicate that my modem is not supported. Has anyone had luck with this. BTW, it is pnp. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!news.mcs.de!cyberspam!usenet From: Joe Franklin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5j8bce$8pv$5628@PaperBoy.LiveNet.Net> Control: cancel <5j8bce$8pv$5628@PaperBoy.LiveNet.Net> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 12:56:00 +0100 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 3 Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de Message-ID: References: <5j8bce$8pv$5628@PaperBoy.LiveNet.Net> NNTP-Posting-Host: berlin.snafu.de X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes EMP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. The Breidbart index was 1809. See report "members.aol.com/Jfrank1069" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Save over 50%. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: vamp@vamp.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nitro Board - any info? Date: 19 Apr 1997 02:57:03 -0700 Organization: http://www.vamp.org/ Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: shell4.ba.best.com X-Url: http://www.vamp.org/vamp.html X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.35/XEmacs 19.14 dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > Tim Danaher wrote: > > > >I've seen some mention in varius fora of the Nitro accelerator for Turbo > >stations. Anyoone got any info on them? Are they still available? > > I think there were about 5 built. They're a daughterboard that plug > into the CPU socket of a NeXTstation Turbo/NeXTstation Turbo Color > (and a NeXTcube Turbo with some physical hackery.) The board holds > a 68040 running at 40MHz and a 128K (I think) cache; 4-way? can't > remember. > And they aren't available. And I don't have one. Who made them? Was this some planned upgrade from NeXT that never saw the light, or a cool project from some university engineers, or ... ? -- Ryan L. Watkins `silver moonbeams dance in fountains below shining citadels vamp@vamp.org surrounded by silver gates ascending silver stairs www.vamp.org eureka on angelic prayer wafts in and scents the air' -satb #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: fs: st1480n $90 Date: 19 Apr 1997 13:07:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970419130700.JAA23552@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com we would like to sell some used drives UPS SUN SCSI Built to order with support GSA schedule Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Christian Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to find ED diskettes? Date: 19 Apr 1997 14:59:44 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bc4cd2$680da8a0$aecb92cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.203.174 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Does anyone know of a source for Extra Density 2.88 MB floppies? Thanks. **************************************************** Chris Jensen chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!blush.jps.net!usenet From: Thomas Pfaff Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Linux (much) faster than NextStep (Rhapsody) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 07:56:47 -1200 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3359237F.110C@jps.net> References: <5j841c$3qo4@news.doit.wisc.edu> <87912fkdn2.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Reply-To: devjava@jps.net NNTP-Posting-Host: istk-port376.jps.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:64462 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:211517 comp.sys.next.hardware:28390 In the past there's been talk at NeXT about swapping out the kernel. Now that they've settled on keeping Mach, I'd _guess_ that there are plans to optimize it so that it's faster and even more stable. After the first flurry of press releases there was some announcement about plans to upgrade the Mach kernel in NeXTStep to the latest version at least. Just FYI... this issue has been up for discussion again and again for several years at least which is of course just fine. Thomas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nitro Board - any info? Date: 19 Apr 1997 17:33:24 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5javl4$7ep$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5j97ve$e7s$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] John Rudd (jrudd@cygnus.com) wrote: : In David Evans wrote: : > In article , : > Tim Danaher wrote: : > >Hello, everyone : > > : > >I've seen some mention in varius fora of the Nitro accelerator for Turbo : > >stations. Anyoone got any info on them? Are they still available? : > > : > : > I think there were about 5 built. They're a daughterboard that plug into : the : > CPU socket of a NeXTstation Turbo/NeXTstation Turbo Color (and a NeXTcube : Turbo : > with some physical hackery.) The board holds a 68040 running at 40MHz and : a : > 128K (I think) cache; 4-way? can't remember. : > And they aren't available. And I don't have one. : There was also a project to put a '060 into a daughterboard in the cpu : socket. : Does anyone know what happened to THAT? I thought 060's opcode is so different from 040.. that you need some major kernel hacks to make it work?? =) I just have question.. is it worth it?? Granted we all love our slabs and cubes.. but if you want computation power.. won't it be better to bit the bullet and get a Pentium? system?? Even those K5s $99 Cdn.. that's pretty good price for a CPU! Godwin k #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.80.1.4!interaccess!usenet From: stevek@guide.chi.il.us (Steve Kacsmark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help with monitor connectors Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:16:37 GMT Organization: Guide Services Lines: 50 Message-ID: <33590b4c.8286936@nntp.interaccess.com> Reply-To: stevek@guide.chi.il.us NNTP-Posting-Host: d111.nnb.interaccess.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 I was asked to build some boxes to allow NeXT cubes to boot without monitors. I've included a crude schematic of my design (based upon data in the hardware faq.) Unortunately to build the boxes I need some DB-19 connectors, but am unable to locate anyone selling theese. I'm hoping someone out there knows where to buy these connectors, I don't want to have to cut the monitor cables. Also, if you see any potential problems with my design I'd welcome input. Thanks Steve stevek@guide.chi.il.us (Schematics and info follow) (pin 6) ---/\/\/\----+ 470 ohm | o \ (Momentary Switch) o | (ground) -------------+ (Pin 12) -----+-------+ | | > 47 > 47 > ohm > ohm > > | | (ground) -----+-------+ The NeXT Manual describes the monitor connector as follows Pin 1 +12V Pin 2 -12V Pin 3 MON CLK Pin 4 MON DATA OUT Pin 5 MON DATA IN Pin 6 MON PWR SWITCH Pin 7 NC Pin 8 VSYNC Pin 9 HSYNC Pin 10 VIDEO Pin 11 +12V Pin 12 -12V Pins 13-19 GND #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.rediris.es!news.iac.es!news From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Help Getting SB16 PnP to work. Date: 18 Apr 1997 14:53:19 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5j81sv$t90@sinfo.ll.iac.es> References: <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> Reply-To: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.icia.rcanaria.es X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: cybobob@mindspring.com In <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> Mr. Kawasaki wrote: > I put in all the correct settings, directly from the manual for the > sound card. Also, I've had success in Linux using the exact settings > from the book, so I know that's not the problem. I heard someting from > someone a while back that said you need to change someting in the > Expert settings for it to work with PnP. > I also bought a SB16 PnP recently to install on my OS4.1. After trying every posible combination I gave up. I called up NeXT and told me I should download the newer driver from NeXTAnswers and did so. I still would not work. I then found a friend who had an NT system with the older SB16 (the old model with jumpers and all), I swap it with him, installed it right away and everything works OK!. I recommend you try this with your dealer or a friend. > > Later, > Nick > > E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dr. Rafael Munoz-Carpena, Researcher, Soil & Water Department | | INSTITUTO CANARIO DE INVESTIGACIONES AGRARIAS - ICIA | | Apdo. 60 - Laguna, 38200 Tenerife (Spain) | |Tno:+34-22-476343;Fax:+34-22-476303;e-mail:carpena@icia.rcanaria.es| +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nitro Board - any info? Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:41:09 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <5j97ve$e7s$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <5javl4$7ep$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: <5javl4$7ep$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> On 19 Apr 1997, Godwin wrote: > I just have question.. is it worth it?? Granted we all love our slabs > and cubes.. but if you want computation power.. won't it be better to bit > the bullet and get a Pentium? system?? Even those K5s $99 Cdn.. that's > pretty good price for a CPU! Of course, once PPCP is Apple's standard platform, it would be nice to see a PPCP-compliant upgrade board for NeXTstations or a PPCP board and backplane swap for the cubes (PPCP board, PCI backplane). Oh well, I can dream, can't I? :) -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!not-for-mail From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing NT and Mach on 4GB Drives Date: 19 Apr 1997 19:27:25 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5jb6at$q3l$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5j8ner$4tv$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: shark.orcacomputer.com.blacksburg.va.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having trouble installing OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I have the following > configuration: [del] > My 4GB drive has two 2GB partitions. The first is FAT16 running NT and the > second is OPENSTEP for Mach which is installed, configured and booting fine > except for one problem: > > Workspace reports that only 448MB are available. There should be 1.5 GB or > more available. When I computed the size of my local directories I only got > 172MB. I've heard that OPENSTEP can only address up to 2.7GB. When I add 2048 > (first partition), 448 (free) and 172 (used) that's about what I get. > > I'm assuming at this point that I need to follow some special instructions > concerning installation. I've browsed through NeXTanswers but wasn't able to > locate the article I need. > > Any help you can provide will be appreciated. I'd like to work on this > machine this weekend if possible. Tech support @ NeXT came through with the answer. The mistake I made was the following. My drive was originally three partitions: 2 GB, 2GB and 64MB. When I installed OPENSTEP I wasn't paying attention to the fact that the install program was offering to use all the space of the second and third partition. So I reinstalled and chose advanced options where I repartitioned the drive to what I originally had. Then I chose "Use all 2047 MB for OPENSTEP" and everything works fine. I have a little space left over, but that's not a problem. In fact, I might use it as a FAT transport between UFS and NTFS. -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nitro Board - any info? Date: 19 Apr 1997 20:16:32 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5jb970$dlk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5j97ve$e7s$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <5javl4$7ep$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Isaac (isaac@pobox.com) wrote: : Of course, once PPCP is Apple's standard platform, it would be nice to : see a PPCP-compliant upgrade board for NeXTstations or a PPCP board and : backplane swap for the cubes (PPCP board, PCI backplane). Man! That means that no more NeXTDimension!? I guess there is always the Glints.. but man ND is possibly the largest Video card ever existed?;-) Just wait till the mac.hardware people hear this! next.hardware going down the csn.advocacy road;-) Godwin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news01.cahners.com!retromod!not-for-mail From: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.windows,alt.windows95,biz.comp.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc396a$8bbf06c0$LocalHost@iris.cybercomm.nl> Control: cancel <01bc396a$8bbf06c0$LocalHost@iris.cybercomm.nl> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 97 15:43:43 MET Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Lines: 2 Sender: "Ron Dijkstra" Approved: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.161.40.91 X-ACHHBot: Processed X-Cancelled-By: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl X-Archive: No X-No-Archive: Yes X-No-More-Headers-After-This-One: True Article retromoderated by achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl for alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt See the FAQ for a.c.h.h. for details, or contact achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl . #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!news.istar.net!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!morgan.ucs.mun.ca!kwong From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: FAXing with PPP Date: 19 Apr 1997 21:15:45 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5jbcm1$j7l@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <5itiq6$17m@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5j6v85$bm@news.myriad.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0+nov (built 96.Apr.19 13:04) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28397 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26396 sjohnson@myriad.net (Stephen Johnson) writes: >On 04/14/97, daj@nwu.edu wrote: >>I have a ZyXEL 2864 FAX/Modem. I have the modem connected to the >first com port (serial port 1, /dev/cufa). I am currently using the >modem and PPP to dial out. What I'd like to know is, what needs to be >done to allow me to use the FAX features of the modem? When I >configure a FAX modem in the PrinterManager, then the port (/dev/cufa) >is busy when I try to use PPP. Also, when I have established a modem >queue and I try to use it it appears that nothing gets sent. Do I >need to send some sort of modem commands to switch the modem to fax >mode? >> >>David A. Johnson, >>Research Engineer, >>Northwestern University >> >Do you have fax software, such as NXFax or there are some which may >require a good bit of configuring available on NEXTSTEP ftp sites? The >NS built in fax driver doesn't support Zyxel or very many other modems >either. >-- >--- >Stephen Johnson, sjohnson@myriad.net >Computer Consulting Intl, LTD >PO Box 1046 >College Station, TX 77841 >409-778-4717 >"the Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests" >President Andrew Jackson, June 8, 1845 Maybe you can get mgetty+sendfax on major Linux FTP site. kai #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gdm From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nitro Board - any info? Date: 19 Apr 1997 21:22:57 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5jbd3h$avo@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) vamp@vamp.org writes: > dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: >> I think there were about 5 built. They're a daughterboard that plug >> into the CPU socket of a NeXTstation Turbo/NeXTstation Turbo Color >> (and a NeXTcube Turbo with some physical hackery.) The board holds >> a 68040 running at 40MHz and a 128K (I think) cache; 4-way? can't >> remember. >> And they aren't available. And I don't have one. I think there were more than 5 built. > Who made them? Was this some planned upgrade from NeXT that never saw > the light, or a cool project from some university engineers, or ... ? This was an internal engineering project at NeXT that was supposedly going to see the light of day, then NeXT killed their hardware line. gdm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!news.iglobal.net!usenet@iglobal.net From: bejo@iglobal.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Serial port Date: 19 Apr 1997 18:30:13 GMT Organization: Internet Global Services, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5jb2vl$fok1@news.iglobal.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lubp2-10.iglobal.net X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] I have been trying to turn down serial speed from 9600 baud but doesnt work at all. i have tried to change it on /etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab. where am supposed to set up the speed ? My puter is black cube motorola 68030 Urip #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Question!? Date: Sat, 19 Apr 97 22:05:01 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5jbfip$aij@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Can I buy a NeXT cube and run it in a mult-processor config? I know it can support multiple MBDs, but can it be a SMP system? Matt #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Question!? Date: 19 Apr 1997 22:18:16 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5jbgb8$iro$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5jbfip$aij@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] nope the best you can do is have multiple CPU board and ethernet it.. or unless you can plenty of $$$$.. to get NeXT/APple to upgrade the kernel to support SMP Matt Seibert (mseibert@ita1.inow.com) wrote: : Can I buy a NeXT cube and run it in a mult-processor config? I know it : can support multiple MBDs, but can it be a SMP system? : Matt #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gdm From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Question!? Date: 20 Apr 1997 00:21:14 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5jbnhq$jdm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5jbfip$aij@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) writes: > Can I buy a NeXT cube and run it in a mult-processor config? I know it > can support multiple MBDs, but can it be a SMP system? Nope. You can add multiple CPU boards which have the NBIC (NeXTbus Interface Chip) removed, and with some careful systems administration, you can have the other CPU board do some tasks. e.g. have a script 'gcc-dist' which accepts the standard gcc input, but tasks the compile to the second processor board. One of these days I'll get around to cleaning up my 'use the least busy processor for this task' script and make it available. gdm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: wepouroewu@eoiurqwoer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: *Teen Pussy Closeup teenpus.jpg Date: 19 Apr 1997 23:48:44 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. 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WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!btnet-feed1!BTInternet!usenet From: Greg Noel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Help Getting SB16 PnP to work. Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 04:49:11 +0100 Organization: BT Internet Lines: 60 Message-ID: <33599237.E0E417DA@linklaters.com> References: <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> <5j81sv$t90@sinfo.ll.iac.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-73-38-34.btinternet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I got my SB16 PnP working based on a previous posting, it worked until I rebooted.... Playing around I was able to get it to work semi-consistently. The instructions are just a bit arcane: Log in as root. Configure/Install the latest releases of the EISABus and SB16 drivers from NeXTAnswers. Open the EISABus wrapper in /usr/Devices ( cmd-shift-O in the workspace ). In a terminal window, run PnPDump, noting the ID of the SB16 card, something like 0x8c..... Now, open the wrapper for SoundBlaster16 in /usr/Devices. Open the Instance0.table file in Edit, replace the AutoDetect ID in the instance table with the ID from PnPDump Output. Reboot. Try it, if it works great, if after an rebooting it fails check the settings in Configure. As I said, after rebooting it worked, but after rebooting again it complained ( look at the -v output upon booting ). I finally had to change the driver to the single DMA SB16 driver to get it to stick. Hope this helps. Rafael Munoz-Carpena wrote: > In <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> Mr. Kawasaki wrote: > > I put in all the correct settings, directly from the manual for > the > > sound card. Also, I've had success in Linux using the exact > settings > > from the book, so I know that's not the problem. I heard someting > from > > someone a while back that said you need to change someting in the > > > Expert settings for it to work with PnP. > > > > I also bought a SB16 PnP recently to install on my OS4.1. After > trying > every posible combination I gave up. I called up NeXT and told me I > should download the newer driver from NeXTAnswers and did so. I > still > would not work. > I then found a friend who had an NT system with the older SB16 (the > old > model with jumpers and all), I swap it with him, installed it right > away and > everything works OK!. I recommend you try this with your dealer or a > friend. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: Recommendation for PCI Video card Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 10:01:26 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 11 Message-ID: <33512085.9819145@news.mindspring.com> References: <5i4en5$eeb$1@hock.apana.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip205.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 20 Apr 1997 05:02:47 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 >Ideally, I'd probably go for a Matrox Millenium 4Mb, but at around A$500 >I'd like something more affordable right now. What the hell? 500$?! I got mine for $254.98 exactly, with 4 mb. I got it from www.c-lutions.com. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: Recommendation for PCI Video card Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 10:01:27 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3350cf9e.9974478@news.mindspring.com> References: <5i4en5$eeb$1@hock.apana.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip205.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 20 Apr 1997 05:02:48 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 >Ideally, I'd probably go for a Matrox Millenium 4Mb, but at around A$500 >I'd like something more affordable right now. At www.c-lutions.com, it is $244 plus s&h and tax. I got one from them. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!jlemon From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) Subject: Re: Linux (much) faster than NextStep (Rhapsody) Message-ID: Followup-To: jlemon@netcom.com Keywords: benchmarks speed linux nextstep rhapsody Organization: Netcom References: <5j841c$3qo4@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 05:10:52 GMT Lines: 43 Sender: jlemon@netcom22.netcom.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:64548 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:211726 comp.sys.next.hardware:28409 In article <5j841c$3qo4@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Michael Giddings wrote: >I downloaded the Byte Unix Benchmarks and did some tests on Linux and >OpenStep/Mach 4.1 running on the same system. First of all, here's the >configuration: > > [snip] > >I'll include the tables below. The most stunning thing in these were the >disk writes - more than 10x faster in Linux! I had noticed before that the >Linux filesystem seemed much more responsive - for example, doing a recursive >chmod on a large directory tree is blazingly fast. The other speed Uh, this is because Linux by default uses async disk writes. Yes, it brings the speed up, but you don't get that speed for free. What you're trading off is the integrity of the filesystem in off chance that you have a system crash before all the writes complete. If you never have a system crash or power failure, or the disk contains non- critical data, then there is absolutely no problem with this approach. However, if you don't want to gamble that your 2 year old daughter won't be attracted to the pretty lights and push the power button while you are working in Concurrence [personal experience here], then you are well advised _NOT_ to mount your system async. >advantages in Linux seem mainly on the Unix stuff, not on raw calculations >such as recursion or math. > >This makes me hope that Rhapsody will see a big upgrade of the BSD layer!! >Maybe they should use the ext2 filesystem - it appears much more responsive >than ufs. Sigh. ext2fs is not really more responsive than ufs. The async write option is what is providing performance gains. If you want to compare apples to apples, mount your filesystem noasync, and run the tests again. (But I'll bet that Linux still wins, the UNIX layer in NEXTSTEP is nowhere near a modern BSD system, like, say FreeBSD. :-) -- Jonathan (email replies, I don't read this group very often any more) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5jboaa$8p1@news.netusa1.net> Date: 20 Apr 1997 03:37:05 GMT Control: cancel <5jboaa$8p1@news.netusa1.net> Message-ID: Sender: X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to use Sony NeXT CD-ROM for music on MO (or just how to play music) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 20 Apr 1997 00:31:26 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5jcgoe$1m5@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26406 comp.sys.next.hardware:28410 Hi, I purchased an original Sony CD-ROM (CDU-541 Rev 2.6a) for my 040/25 cube on c.s.n.m. For installing software it works great. But when I insert a music CD and plug a set of speakers into the sound jack, or a set of headphones, no sound comes out. Is there something I need to do play music on this CD-ROM and to have the music come out of the sound jack? Do I need run a particular app to listen to music from a CD-ROM? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to attach video signal on 040 cubes Date: 20 Apr 1997 00:35:50 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5jch0m$1s9@slip.net> References: <5jcgoe$1m5@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Is it possible to attach a video signal to an 040/25 cube? If so, which connector? Some sort of external device? Or is video a NeXT Dimension thing only? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!sun4nl!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: SymLogic SCSI driver Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 10:36:36 GMT Lines: 26 The SymBios Logic driver (SYM53c8xx) works fine with my old NCR 53C810 board but not with my new 53C875 board. Now I want to have the two boards in my system at the same time, and I want to tell the NeXT SYM53c8xx driver to ignore the board that is not supported (the 53c875). I found out what the PnP id's are (0x00011000 and 0x000f1000) and I modified the Instance0.table of the driver to accept 0x00011000 only. This trick does not work. The driver finds the first board at id 0x00011000 and then immediately says: "boardcount=2". It then tries to initialize the second board whith a reboot as result. Is there a way to prevent the driver from looking for more than one installed board?? Why does this driver recognize more than one board for Instance0.table and seems to ignore an Instance1.table?? In case you wonder why I want two SCSI controllers and ignore the second one: it is a dual boot system NS-mach/NT and NT works ok with the 53c875. Thanks hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news.tu-chemnitz.de!not-for-mail From: Mario Illgen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Help Getting SB16 PnP to work. Date: 20 Apr 1997 14:32:03 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5jd9d3$slq$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> <5j81sv$t90@sinfo.ll.iac.es> <33599237.E0E417DA@linklaters.com> Reply-To: Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE NNTP-Posting-Host: gormenghast.csn.tu-chemnitz.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi there, Greg Noel wrote: >In a terminal window, run PnPDump, noting the ID of the SB16 card, >something like 0x8c..... > >Now, open the wrapper for SoundBlaster16 in /usr/Devices. > >Open the Instance0.table file in Edit, replace the AutoDetect ID in the >instance table with the ID from PnPDump Output. > >Reboot. Try it, if it works great, if after an rebooting it fails check >the settings in Configure. > >As I said, after rebooting it worked, but after rebooting again it >complained ( look at the -v output upon booting ). I finally had to >change the driver to the single DMA SB16 driver to get it to stick. > Try to uninstall and reinstall the driver (after changing the Autodetect ID) using Configure.app. It has worked for me... (16 bit DMA) Ciao, Mario -- Mario Illgen, TU Chemnitz-Zwickau "I laughed in the mirror for the first time in a year..." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.onramp.net!news From: "Wes Spears" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help regarding Modem Cable for a 040 Cube Date: 20 Apr 1997 16:32:59 GMT Organization: The Weston Group Lines: 5 Message-ID: <01bc4da8$d497e4a0$115a68ce@jspears.onramp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp2-19.hstntx.onramp.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17257 comp.sys.next.misc:25645 comp.sys.next.hardware:28414 If you have one or know where I can pick one up, please let me know. Thanks Wes jspears@weston.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help regarding Modem Cable for a 040 Cube Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 19:25:16 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5jdqjm$9it@news.jump.net> References: <01bc4da8$d497e4a0$115a68ce@jspears.onramp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Ditto. I have a USR 28.8 External Black tower modem (figured the colors worked) and now need a modem cable so I can hook it to my NeXT. Matt In article <01bc4da8$d497e4a0$115a68ce@jspears.onramp.net>, "Wes Spears" wrote: >If you have one or know where I can pick one up, please let me know. > >Thanks >Wes >jspears@weston.com Matt please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!netnews.upenn.edu!news From: larsen@math.upenn.edu (Michael Larsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT Date: 20 Apr 1997 02:27:51 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5jbuv7$f68@netnews.upenn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts5-19.upenn.edu I also just bought a Jaz drive for my NeXT cube. The three cartridges I bought came pre-formatted for mac, but I reformatted them for NeXT. I did this by choosing the initialization command from the workspace (System 3.2). When the newfs command executed by the workspace failed, I typed "newfs /dev/rsd3a Jaz" from the command line, where "Jaz" is the name of the disktab entry I copied from the NextAnswers. (The default command "newfs /dev/rsd3a" executed by the standard initialization script uses the wrong disk geometry parameters.) Results: one of the three disks generated so many bad media errors that it was unusable. An attempt to sdform it failed, thanks to more media errors. A second disk generates bad media errors fairly frequently: perhaps half a dozen per 100MB of data transferred. The third generated only a single bad media error in a 700MB transfer but also crashed the workspace once during the transfer. This doesn't seem like acceptable performance to me. Did I do something wrong? Should I be using a different disktab, for instance? Different cartridges? A different drive? MacConnection is willing to replace any or all of the components but cannot advise on non-Mac, non-PC systems. -Michael Larsen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!usenet From: rao@supermod.egr.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium (BLACK SCREEN ON BOOT) Date: 6 Apr 1997 21:31:21 GMT Organization: University of Houston Lines: 49 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5i94n9$p1b@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> References: <5i4lhm$bhl@boursy.news.erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: supermod.egr.uh.edu I am having the exact same problems. In my case, the problem seems to go away when I reboot without the -v option, i.e., with graphics on. However, on many (but not all) occasions when I boot with -v option, everything goes fine until I expect to see the login window but instead see all black, with my Nanao monitor apparently in a state indicating that there is no incoming video signal from the card. What is going on? In article <5i4lhm$bhl@boursy.news.erols.com> gcasamen@erols.com writes: > Hi, I am having the following problem. I own a Matrox Millenium > video card. Recently upon booting up the machine I have been > experiencingoccasions when the login screen will not come up and the > monitor remainsdark. One of the lights on the front of the monitor > flashes as ifit is not recieving a signal. I have no idea what might be > causing this. > > I (unfortunately) also have Windows 95 on my machine and I have never > had any problems with the display coming up with it. The "Boot > Graphics" option is set to "Yes" currently. I am going to try setting > it to "No" to see if that makes a difference. What confuses me the most > is that this is only an occasional problem. > > My System is configured as follows: > > P200 w/ 512kb cache and 32MB RAM > Matrox Millenium w/ 4MB WRAM > SoundBlaster 16 (non-PnP) > 33.6 KBps US Robotics Modem > 1.6GB EIDE Hard Disk Drive > 8x Mitsumi ATAPI compliant CD-ROM > CTX 17" Monitor .25 dot pitch (max res 1600x1200) > usually runs at 1280x1024 w/65536 colors. > > Thanks in advance for any advice or help regarding this problem. > > Greg C. > Please e-mail me back at gcasamen@erols.com, or post to this newsgroup. > -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Good Slab Fan Replacement Date: 20 Apr 1997 20:53:11 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5jdvnn$ce8$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello all, Just a misc fan question... Which is the best QUIET fan to replace with in a turbo slab?? Just a minor rant about the stock fans.. I got two slabs opposite ends and when I am playing doom or other net games.. it gets just a tad loud with two of them whirring... distracting when you are trying to duck monsters, BFG shots or work... yeah right;-) thanx Godwin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to find ED diskettes? Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:57:08 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <01bc4cd2$680da8a0$aecb92cf@default> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Christian Jensen cc: salesinfo@mddc.com In-Reply-To: <01bc4cd2$680da8a0$aecb92cf@default> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat > Does anyone know of a source for Extra Density 2.88 MB floppies? Yes, one, Midwestern Diskette (800-221-6332, salesinfo@mddc.com). They were the only company I've seen in Computer Shopper over the past 1.5 years who have advertised ED disks. I got 10 of them a couple years back when I had to backp some stuff Kind of handy to have around but I haven't used them too often since I got my EZ135 drive. MD sells them for $1.69 each for 50 or more ($84 + shipping) or $1.79/each for less than 50. There is a $4 per order processing fee (why I don't know) shipping is $1.80 per 100 disks. These will work with drives on black hardware (slabs). For Intel hardware or others you will need a special drive (a regular disk drive won't work). This pricing info may not be current, I'm looking at the Feb '97 Computer Shopper. TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Questions asked in crossposted messages should not be answered. Read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Correction (Re: Where to find ED diskettes?) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:04:41 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <01bc4cd2$680da8a0$aecb92cf@default> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Christian Jensen cc: saleinfo@mddc.com In-Reply-To: <01bc4cd2$680da8a0$aecb92cf@default> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat [the email address should be "saleinfo@mddc.com, NOT sale_s_info@mddc.com] > Does anyone know of a source for Extra Density 2.88 MB floppies? Yes, one, Midwestern Diskette (800-221-6332, salesinfo@mddc.com). They were the only company I've seen in Computer Shopper over the past 1.5 years who have advertised ED disks. I got 10 of them a couple years back when I had to backp some stuff Kind of handy to have around but I haven't used them too often since I got my EZ135 drive. MD sells them for $1.69 each for 50 or more ($84 + shipping) or $1.79/each for less than 50. There is a $4 per order processing fee (why I don't know) shipping is $1.80 per 100 disks. These will work with drives on black hardware (slabs). For Intel hardware or others you will need a special drive (a regular disk drive won't work). This pricing info may not be current, I'm looking at the Feb '97 Computer Shopper. TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Questions asked in crossposted messages should not be answered. Read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to attach video signal on 040 cubes Date: 21 Apr 1997 00:19:48 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5jebr4$36v$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <5jcgoe$1m5@slip.net> <5jch0m$1s9@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8) emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: > Hi, > Is it possible to attach a video signal to an 040/25 cube? > If so, which connector? Some sort of external device? > Or is video a NeXT Dimension thing only? Only NeXT Dimension Cubes can handle video. --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: q[084utj@2[4084utj.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: *Hot Young Cock Sucking Teens *cock.jpg Date: 20 Apr 1997 22:14:39 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5je4gf$iu5@argentina.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.217.19.105 Check out this site, it has tons of young teens fucking and sucking cock !!! http://www.sexy-girls.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need Serial Cable for NeXT Date: Mon, 21 Apr 97 02:15:07 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5jeik2$shh@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Needed: One serial cable for black hardware to USR 28.8 Modem. What is the going rate, etc? Matt please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!newsfeed.kornet.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5je4gf$iu5@argentina.earthlink.net> Date: 21 Apr 1997 02:09:01 GMT Control: cancel <5je4gf$iu5@argentina.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sender: q[084utj@2[4084utj.com X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 2 Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: SEXYGIRLS Original Subject: *Hot Young Cock Sucking Teens *cock.jpg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Serial Cable for NeXT Date: 21 Apr 1997 02:27:53 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5jejb9$put$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5jeik2$shh@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] have you try a mac to pc modem cable??? (haven't try any since I uses ethernet) but pins look alright.. try Dejanews and do a search I am pretty sure it was covered! godwin Matt Seibert (mseibert@ita1.inow.com) wrote: : Needed: : One serial cable for black hardware to USR 28.8 Modem. What is the : going rate, etc? : Matt : please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Christian Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Serial Cable for NeXT Date: 21 Apr 1997 02:34:41 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 14 Message-ID: <01bc4dfc$a83871a0$abcb92cf@default> References: <5jeik2$shh@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.203.171 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 DeepSpace Tech (http://www.deepspacetech.com) sells NeXT modem cables for $25 if I'm not mistaken. Matt Seibert wrote in article <5jeik2$shh@news.jump.net>... > Needed: > One serial cable for black hardware to USR 28.8 Modem. What is the > going rate, etc? > > > Matt > please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!rjacobs.Stanford.EDU!rob From: "Robert G. Jacobs" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PPD for newer HP Laserjets Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:09:51 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rjacobs.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28426 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26413 I currently have an HP Laserjet III on my NeXTstation running NS3.0 (I have a cable with a serial port connection on one end and a 25-pin connector on the other) . I'm looking to upgrade to a newer HP Laserjet that's faster and has built-in postscript (e.g. HP 5MP or HP 6MP). Does anyone have the correct PPD files for either of these printers? Anything else I should consider? Reasons why this won't work? Thanks for any comments. Robert rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!muaddib!mgoedel From: mgoedel@m.isar.de Subject: running cube without monitor Message-ID: Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Reply-To: mgoedel@m.isar.de Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:24:47 GMT Lines: 18 Hello out there, running two cubes as network servers (one as Master Netinfo server, the other one as sybase & web server) i think, monitors will go to the goodfather by the next months after running 4 years without powering the machines down... Someone posted a little hardware trick to build a blind connector for the monitor output. Does anybody has a pinout for such a thing. Thanx MaX(T) -- __ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10 /\_\ KARSTADT AG Unternehmensbereich IW | 81543 Muenchen \/_/ Sysadmin der cyberb@r | Tel.: 049 89 652918 NeXTSTEP! mgoedel@m.isar.de (NeXT) | Work: 049 89 2902-5418 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to attach video signal on 040 cubes Date: 21 Apr 1997 16:41:24 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5jg5bk$3tio@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5jcgoe$1m5@slip.net> <5jch0m$1s9@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) >Is it possible to attach a video signal to an 040/25 cube? >If so, which connector? Some sort of external device? > >Or is video a NeXT Dimension thing only? Either the NeXTdimension for video in and out (NTSC or PAL depending on which ND board you have) or MetaResearch built a frame grabber that plugs into the DSP port that does video in but not video out. The later works on any NeXT hardware, not just the cube, and came in two models - Digital Eye (mono) and Color Digital Eye (color). I have a Color Digital Eye and it works fine - I think it can capture 640x480 at 5fps but I'd better double check that frame rate. Of course, neither are made anymore and don't come up for sale very often; I seen maybe two Digital Eye's posted for sale in the last 4 years. - Gareth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Correction (Re: Where to find ED diskettes?) Date: 21 Apr 1997 17:27:00 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5jg814$9ms@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <01bc4cd2$680da8a0$aecb92cf@default> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port4.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: luomat@peak.org In Timothy Luoma wrote: > > [the email address should be "saleinfo@mddc.com, NOT sale_s_info@mddc.com] > > > > Does anyone know of a source for Extra Density 2.88 MB floppies? > > Yes, one, Midwestern Diskette (800-221-6332, salesinfo@mddc.com). > MD sells them for $1.69 each for 50 or more ($84 + shipping) or $1.79/each > for less than 50. There is a $4 per order processing fee (why I don't > know) shipping is $1.80 per 100 disks. > These will work with drives on black hardware (slabs). For Intel hardware > or others you will need a special drive (a regular disk drive won't > work). > TjL I have 5 boxes left in stock, shrinkwrapped; will let them go for what I paid, $18.00 per box (of 10) plus sales tax if in NY state. Will ship UPS or whatever... Rick Sanford dental@precipice.com 212-486-4513 -NYC #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!news.us.world.net!news.aus.world.net!usenet From: Piotr Palacz Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: MIDI problem Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:51:03 +1000 Organization: AUSNet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: <335B3887.4630@FreeFall.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: sydney43.world.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal)   Hello; I've been trying to makework a black NS 3.2 + Midface SX (by Altrech Systems) + Yamaha Clavinova. From the keybord to the slab, the setup works OK. From the slab to the keyboard - no such luck. Console registers: 'MIDI driver hardware framing error'. I used programs coming with MusicKit 4.0 to test this. Any suggestions, anybody? Piotr Palacz piotr@FreeFall.com.au #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.pbi.net!blush.jps.net!usenet From: Thomas Pfaff Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,it.comp.hardware.modem,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.ca Subject: a response Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:25:30 -1200 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 17 Message-ID: <335BE95A.37D8@jps.net> References: <01bc4b59$b6eeb100$2a21c183@BING.uic.edu> Reply-To: devjava@jps.net NNTP-Posting-Host: istk-port541.jps.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) To: Yuan Li Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:71080 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:27044 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:19850 comp.sys.next.hardware:28431 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:29151 comp.sys.sun.hardware:46868 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11124 Hi. Your posting does not belong in any NeXT newsgroups as it has nothing to do with either NeXTStep compatible machines nor does it have anything to do with NeXTStep/Openstep/Rhapsody itself. Sigh... Thomas Yuan Li wrote: > > I have a sony CD writer(CDU 924s) for sale!! only used for less than 20 > hous! This device support all the format! it comes with a Corel CD > Creator for Win95 and NT. > I got it for $550. I only ask for $500 include S&H within the U.S.!! > > If interest, please send e-mail to: yli2@uic.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!visi.com!not-for-mail From: David Young Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Serial Cable for NeXT Date: 21 Apr 1997 15:13:17 GMT Organization: THINK New Ideas, Inc., New York City Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5jg06d$9gl$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5jeik2$shh@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: object.metaverse.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970123] Matt Seibert wrote: > One serial cable for black hardware to USR 28.8 Modem. What is the > going rate, etc? Mac modem cables are not NeXT modem cables. If you're handy with a wire stripper, you can make one relatively easily. Search for "cabling" in the System Administrator's Guide. It has pinouts for the NeXT ports and what wires to connect for RS-232 ports. -- .............david.young...senior.developer...think.new.ideas.inc... ....work:.http://www.thinkinc.com...net:.david_young@thinkinc.com... #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to use Sony NeXT CD-ROM for music on MO (or just how to play music) Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5jcgoe$1m5@slip.net> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:30:51 GMT Lines: 22 In article <5jcgoe$1m5@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > Hi, > > I purchased an original Sony CD-ROM (CDU-541 Rev 2.6a) > for my 040/25 cube on c.s.n.m. For installing software > it works great. But when I insert a music CD and plug > a set of speakers into the sound jack, or a set of > headphones, no sound comes out. > > Is there something I need to do play music on this > CD-ROM and to have the music come out of the sound jack? > > Do I need run a particular app to listen to music from > a CD-ROM? > CDPlayer.app used to be on the Demo section of the NS CD-ROM. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Need help with monitor connectors Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33590b4c.8286936@nntp.interaccess.com> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:37:35 GMT Lines: 49 In article <33590b4c.8286936@nntp.interaccess.com> stevek@guide.chi.il.us (Steve Kacsmark) writes: ...munch... > Also, if you see any potential problems with my design I'd welcome > input. > > (Schematics and info follow) > > (pin 6) ---/\/\/\----+ > 470 ohm | > o > \ (Momentary Switch) > o > | > (ground) -------------+ > > (Pin 12) -----+-------+ > | | > > 47 > 47 > > ohm > ohm > > > > | | > (ground) -----+-------+ > > > The NeXT Manual describes the monitor connector as follows > Pin 1 +12V > Pin 2 -12V > Pin 3 MON CLK > Pin 4 MON DATA OUT > Pin 5 MON DATA IN > Pin 6 MON PWR SWITCH > Pin 7 NC > Pin 8 VSYNC > Pin 9 HSYNC > Pin 10 VIDEO > Pin 11 +12V > Pin 12 -12V > > Pins 13-19 GND > Steve, they didn't put the power on two pins for fun. Your design is putting all the current on one pin which might burn out some day. So use two pins for -12v and GND! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@trix.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Has anyone used USR Sportster 28.8 PnP in OPENSTEP Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 01:18:13 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 5 Message-ID: <33611125.141551621@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip142.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 21 Apr 1997 20:19:28 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Just want to know if you'd had better luck than me. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!uniserve!oronet!i485.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTT: PC/Mac Postscript Printer for NeXT Computer Date: 21 Apr 1997 21:05:28 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i485.oro.net I have a very good condition and like new Qume Crystal Print Publisher II Printer that I would like to trade for a used NeXTstation or Color NeXTstation.The Qume is a Postscript and HP compatible printer thats works with both Mac and PC and many other systems. Has serial, parallel, and Appletalk ports, 6MB RAM, 300dpi, 6 pages per minute, letter and legal and envelope trays, like new drum and complete new toner. Let me know what you have to offer. Tom #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!frii.com!deimos.frii.com!chk From: chk@deimos.frii.com (Christian Kuhtz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Serial Cable for NeXT Date: 21 Apr 97 21:21:49 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5jeik2$shh@news.jump.net> <5jg06d$9gl$1@darla.visi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deimos.frii.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) David Young writes: >Matt Seibert wrote: >> One serial cable for black hardware to USR 28.8 Modem. What is the >> going rate, etc? >Mac modem cables are not NeXT modem cables. If you're handy with a >wire stripper, you can make one relatively easily. Search for "cabling" >in the System Administrator's Guide. It has pinouts for the NeXT ports >and what wires to connect for RS-232 ports. It's also all in 'man zs'... Which is probably the best place to go because that's probably most current and immediately available. Cheers, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz (work) (home) Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ "Humbly speaking for myself only." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!homer.alpha.net!not-for-mail From: Everette Edmondson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: for sale stuff Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:28:41 -0500 Lines: 33 Message-ID: <335BEA19.718A@hnet.net> Reply-To: edmondson@hnet.net NNTP-Posting-Host: d102.hnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) The Zenith radio I am selling for $150.00 in great shape.am,fm,longwave, 2-4 mc,4-9 mc,31 meters,25 meters,19 meters,16 meters.Lighted dial for night tuning.Log chart with countries frequincys and time of broadcast. Time zone dial to figure out what time to listen. This is a hard to find item and is collectable.Will sell for $150.00 plus shipping. canon a2e 35mm , 28 to 80 zoom usm -- 100 to 300 zoom usm-- 500 mm reflex telephoto-- 1x4 tele extender-- auto zoom flash-- quantum battery pack will run 2 flash heads-- filters--remote--quietest camera on the market with auto eye focus system.Ultrasonic motor drive on lenses for fast and quiet focusing will focus in darkness.Will trade or sell outright.Consider pentium computer system or digital camera system.430 ez flash auto zoom. items for sale::: vlb io card-- vlb 3d blaster video card-- video capture card color-- monitor ibm color-- citizen gsx 130 color dotmatrix printer-- 5.25 floppy drive-- rll 20meg hard drive-- umax 630 color scanner full page-- conner 400meg external tape backup-- fs or trade ar2500 ac dc scanner radio,covers 11mhz to 1500mhz in 78 > bands.Scan auto all bands or any combination.Manual or auto frequincy > programing. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!128.100.1.3!utcsri!info.ecf!yuwaraj From: yuwaraj@ecf.toronto.edu (Murugathas Yuwaraj) Subject: HELP: MegaPixel Monitor problem Sender: news@ecf.toronto.edu (News Administrator) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 21:40:44 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: spark15.ecf Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility Lines: 16 Greetings everyone! I bought a Nextstation recently. The monitor has the following problem: The pixels are ``squished'' at the bottom of the screen. The transition is gradual from top of the screen to the bottom of the screen. I tried fiddling with the linearity pot in the monitor... it seems to be maxed out. Has anyone had this problem? Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Could you kindly forward responses to thas@ibme.utoronto.ca I will compile the responses and post them. Thanks. -Thas #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!! Date: 22 Apr 1997 00:19:50 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 61 Message-ID: <5jh076$gd7@news.tamu.edu> References: <5ij800$kv1@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ccc1.tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Apr 1997 00:19:50 GMT In-Reply-To: <5ij800$kv1@news.acns.nwu.edu> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26420 comp.sys.next.hardware:28440 comp.sys.next.software:29185 On 04/10/97, daj@nwu.edu wrote: >I have a very serious problem that I need help with. > >I have a Jaz disk that had files moved from it onto another disk (using the next window GUI move command). I want to recover the data fromm the original Jaz disk. Unfortunately the disk the data was moved onto was destroyed. The Jaz disk is intact and hasn't had anything done to it since the data was moved off (no read or writes). Is there any way this can be done? Can I do it myself or is there a service that I can send the disk to to have it recovered? If a service is the way to go, are there any recommendations? > >PLEASE HELP!! Of course I need the data recovered yesterday! > >Thank's in advance, > > > >David A. Johnson > Here are a list of companies to whom I have talked about recovering data. DriveSavers are expensive but might be the best bet. I tried Lazarus and CBL. I would not recommend CBL for NEXTSTEP especially and in general their customer service was not very good. Data Recovery Labs (813) 725-3818 Phone (813) 725-8510 Fax datareclab@aol.com $100 eval. - recovery ~$500-$1200 Data Recovery Services, Inc. ? Vantage 1-800-487-5678 (603) 883-6249 FAX: (603) 883-1973 recovery@vantagetech.com $250 eval. fee CBL 1-800-551-3917 590 Alden Rd., Unit 105, Markham, Ontario, Canada L3R 8N2 (905) 479-9938, Fax: (905) 479-1515 $100/hr 2-4hrs wk Unix DriveSavers (800) 440-1904 415-883-4232 FAX (415) 883-0780 E-Mail: DriveSaver@aol.com NEXTSTEP Lazarus 381 Clementina Street San Francisco, CA 94103 800-341-DATA 415-495-5553 fax #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!night.primate.wisc.edu!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Linux (much) faster than NextStep (Rhapsody) Date: 21 Apr 1997 22:11:58 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5jgone$ckl@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5j841c$3qo4@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:64801 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:212371 comp.sys.next.hardware:28441 giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) wrote: > I downloaded the Byte Unix Benchmarks and did some tests on Linux > and OpenStep/Mach 4.1 running on the same system. > I'll include the tables below. The most stunning thing in these > were the disk writes - more than 10x faster in Linux! > This makes me hope that Rhapsody will see a big upgrade of the > BSD layer!! Maybe they should use the ext2 filesystem - it > appears much more responsive than ufs. Apple has said that the first official release of Rhapsody will include an up-to-date version of the BSD-flavored kernel. This will presumably include some performance improvements, as well as many useful improvements. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Monitor Problem Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 03:08:27 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5jha47$biv@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 I received my NeXT today (YAHOO, this is soooo cool) but the monitor focus seems to be shifted a bit to the right and up a little (ie, looks off center). Was wondering if there is a way to correct this? Secondly, how do I run BuildDisk to create a new boot drive. 100 MB really doesn't hack it, so I get a 500 MB drive to throw in this baby. But I want to transfer the system (I've got it mostly configured) over. Is there a FAQ I could reference? Thanx! Matt #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Help Getting SB16 PnP to work. Date: 22 Apr 1997 02:57:53 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5jh9fh$h2b$4@news2.digex.net> References: <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> <5j81sv$t90@sinfo.ll.iac.es> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) wrote: > I also bought a SB16 PnP recently to install on my OS4.1. After > trying every posible combination I gave up. I called up NeXT and > told me I should download the newer driver from NeXTAnswers and > did so. I still would not work. I then found a friend who had > an NT system with the older SB16 (the old model with jumpers and > all), I swap it with him, installed it right away and everything > works OK!. I recommend you try this with your dealer or a friend. You know, I heard so many horrors about this plug and play stuff...And I think it might have something to do with the intel chipset. I just put together a system for a friend. It was a brand new PPro with 2.1 of the PCI bus and the 440x chipset. It really was just plug and play... YMMV. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!news.ridgecrest.ca.us!not-for-mail From: paul maddox Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Developers Coalition idea Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:50:16 -0700 Organization: RidgeNET Lines: 57 Message-ID: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: annex039.ridgecrest.ca.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10754 comp.sys.next.hardware:28444 comp.sys.next.programmer:24159 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:65908 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22020 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11605 Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform over the competition. To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive hardware a large performance boost. What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs the support of developers to make office tools, games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of it, Apple will go nowhere. Enter the Developer1s Coalition, a well-researched, hard-thought answer to this problem, and one that should put all support for Be and other alternatives out of the picture for good. Picture: * A new organization in which the various, usually competing, Mac hardware vendors *all* come together to encourage and fund development for the Mac OS-- a group composed of not just the AIM triad (Apple, IBM, Motorola), but also the 12 or so cloners, both large and small. * The stability and harmony such a group will bring the platform with its 3we1re all in the same boat2 message. * The reaction of developers to an organization with this breadth and resource level. * This same forum taking on many of the other platform-wide duties, such as evangelism and advertising-- like that PowerPC commercial everyone is longing for... * The tremendous boost in public confidence that will result from this move. Sound good? Then I need your help. The above organization exists only on paper. However, a group of enterprising people have hatched a plan to publicize the idea, hoping to create two reactions: one, let the press and developers know that there is a huge cadre of 3average Joe2 Mac users out there eager to see more programs developed for the Mac; and two, to get the different hardware vendors to either form such a group, or start contributing to an Apple-led effort to provide these benefits. This plan entails a massive e-mail campaign targeting all the Mac hardware vendors with cc's to all the Mac software developers. Address lists for these will be posted on the eve of the campaign. Following is the form letter. Pleae help us out by sending it to the provided mailing lists on or between the dates of *Sunday, April 20th* and *Saturday, April 27*. Thank you. * DC Home: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2633/dc.html * Complete Mac http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/dev.htm * MacMarines http://www.macmarines.com/dcnews/dcnews.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!ont-ca8-17.ix.netcom.com!user From: "Jim Wu" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Reading dos formatted Zip disks Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 00:04:37 -0700 Organization: Netcom Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ont-ca8-17.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Apr 22 1:59:37 AM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) I have NS 3.2 running on a cube with a zip drive. The zip drive reads mac and next disks with no problems, however when I try to read a dos zip disk NS complains that it is not readable. I thought it just works. Reading dos floppies work fine. Is there a disktab or something that I need to use/modify. TIA Jim Wu jimwu@bigfoot.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Reading dos formatted Zip disks Date: 22 Apr 1997 09:53:54 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5ji1ri$cck$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] don't have any problem with mind.. black/white... except it do take a while to scroll when there are alot of small graphics files on a disc. Godwin Jim Wu (jiwu@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu) wrote: : I have NS 3.2 running on a cube with a zip drive. The zip drive reads mac : and next disks with no problems, however when I try to read a dos zip disk : NS complains that it is not readable. I thought it just works. Reading dos : floppies work fine. Is there a disktab or something that I need to : use/modify. TIA : Jim Wu : jimwu@bigfoot.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: It's not bad canned meat... Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 03:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <199704221014.DAA28900@web1.zzz.com> X-Mail2News-User: submit@web1.zzz.com X-Mail2News-Path: web1.zzz.com Lines: 11 Ever had a message so important you just had to tell the world? Well, this is one of those messages. It's about "SUBMITKING", one of the best resources I've found for promoting a website. The URL is http://www.submitking.com and they'll submit your URL to 100 marketing resources (like Yahoo, Altavista,Lycos, Excite, etc.) for just $10US and you just fill out one form and press one button! Tell them Frogger sent you! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.165.3.21!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI Zip drive woes Date: 22 Apr 1997 03:41:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5ji4jt$dne$1@nnrp01.primenet.com> References: <1997Apr8.135006.29310@il.us.swissbank.com> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) borad@oca.com (Donald Bora) wrote: >Help! > >When I started this whole process I had plugged in the scsi >zip drive in alone and it worked like a champ. > >I then tried to get it working with two internal harddrives >a cdrom drive and a scsi scanner. The system refused to see >the second internal hard drive or just got a scsi error. >The scsi id's are all unique and the termination on everything >is cool. > >Now, after much experimentation, I can no longer boot from my first >internal hard drive and I can't even see/mount my second internal hd >(all of the external scsi devices have been disconnected) and am getting >the following error: BAD SUPER BLOCKS: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG >USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE..... >which I have done but to no avail. Further more both sd0 and sd1 >are responding with the first internal hard drive. > > >Any clues out there???? Is this black hardware? Is the scanner an Epson ES1000 or ES1200? My Turbo Station gets corrupted HD files every time I use that damn scanner (it's even been replaced)... The non-turbo Cube is rendered unbootable after only *one* scan (after which it hangs the SCSI bus). This problem occurs on a minimal SCSI chain: Int HD (Terminated) -> TurboColor -> Scanner -> Active Terminator. And on the full-bore chain: Int HD (Terminated) -> Scanner -> Turbocolor -> Ext HD -> CDROM -> Zip -> Active Terminator (Passive won't work in this config). -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!news From: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Failing to install OpenStep 4.1: 'Target Dropped Busy' Date: 22 Apr 1997 10:56:16 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5ji5gg$ro6@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: fennel.cl.cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.1 on an Intel box. Everything goes smoothly until it tries to load the system from the CD, when I get the message sd1: Target Dropped Busy and then retries several times until it gives up with errno 5. The SCSI card is a 2940UW; the CD is a Pioneer U12X. The SCSI and CD are recognised. I've installed NT on this same hardware without any problems. I've checked the obvious things (I've installed NeXTStep lots of times on crazy equipment before now), but am now stuck. Any ideas? Thank you. William Clocksin Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 07:11:20 -0600 From: Tom Guyette Subject: Intel 3.3 SerialPort driver recognizes a 16550 when a 16650 is present Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <861710199.3532@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Apr 22 11:56:39 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 204.120.11.78 (max1.is.com) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.1.5 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: Tom Guyette Lines: 23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26423 comp.sys.next.hardware:28450 comp.sys.next.software:29197 I recently purchased a serial card from ByteRunner (actually made in Taiwan) on which I got a 16650 hoping to improve my multitasking ability. I am running 3.3 and I have the latest Next drivers installed - ISA/EISA Bus Support(v3.35) SerialPort(v3.33) TTY Port Server(v3.33) Although the SerialPort driver's documentation does say that it automatically detects the 16650, on my system it DOES NOT. It says that a 16550 is detected with fifo=16 bytes!! I asked next and they said to try downloading the latest drivers which I did and the results didn't change. I booted in DOS and ran a program that detects the UART and it saw a 16650 alright!! Any suggestions how to get this guy to work? Does anyone have the same problem? Tom -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.80.1.4!interaccess!usenet From: stevek@guide.chi.il.us (Steve Kacsmark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: running cube without monitor Date: 22 Apr 1997 13:07:15 GMT Organization: Guide Services Lines: 105 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5jid63$jl3@nntp.interaccess.com> References: Reply-To: stevek@guide.chi.il.us NNTP-Posting-Host: d141.nnb.interaccess.com X-Newsreader: News for Windows NT X1.0-93 In article mgoedel@m.isar.de wrote: > > Hello out there, > (snip) > > Someone posted a little hardware trick to build a blind connector > for the monitor output. Does anybody has a pinout for such a > thing. > (snip) This is cut directly out of the hardware faq: (snip) Subject: L11. How to boot a NeXT without a monitor? [From: The Onyx Kitten ] The procedure is to just touch pins 6 and GND on the DB-19 NeXT monitor out with a 470 Ohm resistor (450 is the actual resistance, but 470 ohms is more commonly found in resistors). Pin 6 is the power sense, and pins 13-19 (and the DB shell) are the GND. Just say "pin 19", it may be easier. There's a pinout diagram of the DB-19 in the NeXT Users Reference Manual. If you have an old Cube, the power supply needs to have more power drawn from it than an 030 (and 040?) board uses to stay on. So: On the DB-19, attach a Power Resistor (20 Ohm, at least 20 Watt) between pins 12 and GND. (Pin 12 is -12V, pin 13 works well for GND). Then just "touch" the 470 ohm resistor as described above, and you're set. The 20 Ohm resistor draws an old 030 running monitorless in an old CUBE), but it isn't necessary - just don't touch it (*HOT!* ;-) To power off, type "halt -p" as root on the machine (either through a terminal connected to port A, or over the eithernet connection). Also, you have to have the Rom Monitor settings done correctly. The important ones are: Wait until keypress? N Sound out tests? N Port A as alternate Console? Y (if you have one, it's nice) Verbose mode? N (I think this may need to be N to work, don't remember). (snip) This is what I did: (Schematics and info follow) (pin 6) ---/\/\/\----+ 470 ohm | o \ (Momentary Switch) o | (ground) -------------+ Thats Pin6 -> 470hm Resistor -> Switch -> Ground(Pin13-19) (Pin 12) -----+-------+ | | > 47 > 47 > ohm > ohm > > | | (ground) -----+-------+ Pin 12 -> (2 parallel 47 Ohm Resistor) -> Ground(Pin 13-19) Both 47 ohm resistors I have are 20Watt giving me a 40 Watt circuit, I just happened to have these resistors, they were probably more than needed. the FAQ says you need 20 watts total. Rom settings: Wait until keypress? N Sound out tests? N Verbose mode? N Everything appears to be working fine on my systems (NeXT Cube 040 25Mhz) I'mhaving trouble finding DB-19 connectors, so I'm cutting cutting up old NeXT cables. you can purchase cables from www.deepspacetech.com if you want extras. If you can locate DB-19 connectors, I would be greatful for the information. I don't enjoy destroying the cables. The NeXT Manual describes the monitor connector as follows Pin 1 +12V Pin 2 -12V Pin 3 MON CLK Pin 4 MON DATA OUT Pin 5 MON DATA IN Pin 6 MON PWR SWITCH Pin 7 NC Pin 8 VSYNC Pin 9 HSYNC Pin 10 VIDEO Pin 11 +12V Pin 12 -12V Pins 13-19 GND Steve #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!137.208.127.3!newsfeed.wu-wien.ac.at!obelix.wu-wien.ac.at!h9001648 From: h9001648@obelix.wu-wien.ac.at (marcus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NE2000 driver? Date: 22 Apr 1997 15:32:29 GMT Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5jilmd$2l0@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: obelix.wu-wien.ac.at X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I'm unable to locate a driver for OpenStep 4.1 for my NE2000 compatible network card. If you know where to get it, please email me with the URL. Thanks a bunch Marcus #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: hippykill@my.own.bad.site (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000374? Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:35:05 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <335cd948.63204754@news.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn001046.belt.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 A friend of mine gave me a NeXTStation Turbo machine, and I'm having some troubles with it. He built a boot disk for me on a 1GB SCSI HD that booted his NeXTStation fine. When I try to boot mine from it, the machine goes through testing the system and then it says "loading from disk" and the disk spins up, and then it goes to ROM diagnostics and gives me this error message: Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000374 What does this mean? Do I have bad boot ROM, or is the motherboard bad, or did I set something up wrong? Not that I can change the ROM settings, because they are password protected... Thanks for any help you can give! mikelea@access.digex.net "listen to your children instead of dissin' them!"-KRS-ONE "rush limbaugh, i'll hit that pig with an axe..." -Channel Live #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!agate!candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu!not-for-mail From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5jio3p$fnq$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Control: cancel <5jio3p$fnq$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 22 Apr 1997 16:15:07 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5jio6b$fnq$2@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Article cancelled from within tin [v1.3 950824BETA PL0] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!agate!candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu!not-for-mail From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel 3.3 SerialPort driver recognizes a 16550 when a 16650 is present Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 22 Apr 1997 16:22:15 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5jiojn$fnq$3@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <861710199.3532@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Tom Guyette (tguyette@is.com) wrote: : I recently purchased a serial card from ByteRunner (actually made in : Taiwan) on which I got a 16650 hoping to improve my multitasking ability. : : I am running 3.3 and I have the latest Next drivers installed - : ISA/EISA Bus Support(v3.35) : SerialPort(v3.33) : TTY Port Server(v3.33) : : Although the SerialPort driver's documentation does say that it : automatically detects the 16650, on my system it DOES NOT. It says that : a 16550 is detected with fifo=16 bytes!! : This is right size of the FIFO buffer of 16550 chip. Yes, it has only 16 bytes, but compared to 1 byte of 16450 chip, it is huge. The 16 byte of FIFO buffer is big enough to avoid "comm overrun" problem which have had with 16540 chips and high speed modem conbination. : Any suggestions how to get this guy to work? Does anyone have the same : problem? : : Tom It looks like that your hardware/drivers comination is working perfect, or am I missing something else in your post? Hope this solves your question. Please do not cross post! Many NeXT people are reading all of the NeXT related news groups. -- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail Date: 22 Apr 1997 12:16:36 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: Control: cancel <199704221014.DAA28900@web1.zzz.com> X-No-Archive: Yes From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: Subject: cmsg cancel <199704221014.DAA28900@web1.zzz.com> Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-By: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Lines: 3 EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970422.24 for further details #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.altair.com!thetimes.pixel.kodak.com!news.kodak.com!newsserver.rdcs.Kodak.COM!not-for-mail From: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help , need NextStep 3.x help Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:19:36 -0500 Organization: Eastman Kodak Company Lines: 10 Message-ID: <335CF328.7F8F@why.net> Reply-To: "Hari Rajagopal, Kodak Consultant" NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.98.128.69 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) Is there someone who could install NS3.x on my hard drive if I package and mail them the scsi drive ? I dont have a CD_ROM and OS, but do have the 'right to load' from MTECH, inc's terms of sale. I would really appreciate this and am in Dallas, TX Hari #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!agate!candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu!not-for-mail From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5jiojn$fnq$3@agate.berkeley.edu> Control: cancel <5jiojn$fnq$3@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 22 Apr 1997 17:56:58 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5jiu5a$m92$1@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Article cancelled from within tin [v1.3 950824BETA PL0] #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Reading dos formatted Zip disks Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 16:53:41 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 19 In article , Jim Wu wrote: >I have NS 3.2 running on a cube with a zip drive. The zip drive reads mac >and next disks with no problems, however when I try to read a dos zip disk >NS complains that it is not readable. I thought it just works. Reading dos >floppies work fine. Is there a disktab or something that I need to >use/modify. TIA > I seem to recall a problem with support of DOS removable SCSI disks on 3.2. I gather it was fixed in 3.3 and may have been fixed by the "DOSFileSystemPatch" that you can get from NeXTanswers. I don't think I've ever tried reading PC-formatted Zip disks on my cube... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!muaddib!mgoedel From: mgoedel@m.isar.de Subject: Re: running cube without monitor Message-ID: Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Reply-To: mgoedel@m.isar.de Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <5jid63$jl3@nntp.interaccess.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:51:54 GMT Lines: 19 In article <5jid63$jl3@nntp.interaccess.com> stevek@guide.chi.il.us (Steve Kacsmark) writes: > In article > mgoedel@m.isar.de wrote: > > > > > Hello out there, snip - snap --------------------------------- Thanx for the infos. I ve forgotten to look in the Hardware FAQs. Uuuuuuppppppppppssssss :-) Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany -- __ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10 /\_\ KARSTADT AG Unternehmensbereich IW | 81543 Muenchen \/_/ Sysadmin der cyberb@r | Tel.: 049 89 652918 NeXTSTEP! mgoedel@m.isar.de (NeXT) | Work: 049 89 2902-5418 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: Bret Sanders Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Etherlink 3C589D driver? Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:48:04 +0100 Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 16 Message-ID: <335D3214.5660@lighthouse.com> Reply-To: bret@lighthouse.com NNTP-Posting-Host: cloppers.eng.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; U) The Etherlink III PCMCIA driver (v4.03) doesn't seem to work with this new card revision! (3C589D) It worked with the "C" card. Any input? Bret -- _____ /_____/\ David "Bret" Sanders /____ \\ \ Lighthouse Design, Ltd. /_____\ \\ / Sun Microsystems /_____/ \/ / / 2929 Campus Drive, Ste 101 /_____/ / \//\ San Mateo, CA 94403 \_____\//\ / / \_____/ / /\ / Phone: 415 524-3276 \_____/ \\ \ Pager: 800 SKY-8888 PIN# 4859932 \_____\ \\ EMail: bret@lighthouse.com \_____\/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!psinntp!news.trvlnet.com!bdt.com!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: a;odfjdas;l@qpwoerjewa.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Kate Moss moss.jpg Date: 22 Apr 1997 21:55:36 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5jjc4o$3he@argentina.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.217.13.190 Check out this site that I found, it has tons of Nude Celebrity Pictures. http://www.sexy-stars.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.cichlid.com!news.scruz.net!usenet From: David Case Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Strange SIMM slot in Nextstation ? Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 17:02:07 -0700 Organization: CASE Electronics Lines: 2 Message-ID: <335D517F.2787@case.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.227.101.98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) I have a 25MHz 040 mono NeXtStation and it has a SIMM slot that appears to be about 64pins or such. What was it for? ROM upgrades? Anything? #################################################################### Message-ID: <335AFBA3.5801@ultranet.ca> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 21:31:15 -0800 From: John Hills Reply-To: jhills@ultranet.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: FAXing with PPP References: <5itiq6$17m@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5j6v85$bm@news.myriad.net> <5jbcm1$j7l@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: nwm-modem-149.ultranet.ca Lines: 3 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.bctel.net!news.ultranet.ca! Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28461 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26435 I would agree that mgetty+sendfax would be the way to go. If you manage to get them installed and configured let me know. I think you have to be a bit of a propellor-head to set up mgetty! #################################################################### From: "John Hills" Subject: Re: Framegrabber under NS 3.3/Intel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware References: <5ii3fd$ka2@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Message-ID: <01bc4f14$cbc421a0$a5bf66cf@kyushu.infoserve.net> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 NNTP-Posting-Host: nwm-modem-165.ultranet.ca Date: 22 Apr 97 05:09:23 GMT Lines: 28 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.bctel.net!news.ultranet.ca! Martin Böckle wrote in article <5ii3fd$ka2@news.sns-felb.debis.de>... > Hello, > > I'm looking for a framegrabber solution under NS 3.3/Intel. The main > criteria is the ability to transfer image sequences to main memory in > real time. AFAIK there are NS 3.3 drivers for the Movie Machine and > Screen Machine cards by FAST Multimedia. But due to the limited transfer > rate on the ISA bus this solution seems to be inappropriate. > > Does anybody know about PCI framegrabbers working together with NS 3.3? > > There are FreeBSD and Linux drivers for the Matrox Meteor framegrabber card. > Is it possible to port one of them to NS 3.3? Does anybody working on that? > > Any help will be appreciated. This seems to be one of the big black holes that Apple/NeXT should get on right away. I have been waiting longer than I care to remember for an adequate video-in solution from NeXT, once the NeXTdimension failed to deliver (yes, I have been waiting that long!). As I understand it you also have to pay about $800 for a driver for the FAST cards. Music/MIDI would also seem to be something that needs to be re-supported ASAP. John Hills jhills@ultranet.ca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!uwm.edu!biosci!news.alaska.edu!news From: mkienenb@arsc.edu (Mike Kienenberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Help Getting SB16 PnP to work. Date: 23 Apr 1997 00:11:26 GMT Organization: Arctic Region Supercomputing Center Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5jjk3e$dca@news.alaska.edu> References: <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> <5j81sv$t90@sinfo.ll.iac.es> <5jh9fh$h2b$4@news2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ice.arsc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) wrote: ] I also bought a SB16 PnP recently to install on my OS4.1. After ] trying every posible combination I gave up. I called up NeXT and ] told me I should download the newer driver from NeXTAnswers and ] did so. I still would not work. I then found a friend who had ] an NT system with the older SB16 (the old model with jumpers and ] all), I swap it with him, installed it right away and everything ] works OK!. I recommend you try this with your dealer or a friend. John Kheit wrote: >You know, I heard so many horrors about this plug and play stuff...And >I think it might have something to do with the intel chipset. I >just put together a system for a friend. It was a brand new PPro >with 2.1 of the PCI bus and the 440x chipset. It really was just >plug and play... YMMV. It probably won't make anyone feel any better, but I had the same kinds of problems trying to get a PnP 32Awe working with Windows95. I finally had to disable the PnP "features" on the board before I could make the thing work. Maybe you can do the same thing on a SB16 PnP. -- Mike Kienenberger Arctic Region Supercomputing Center Systems Analyst (907) 474-6842 mkienenb@arsc.edu http://www.arsc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gdm From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Strange SIMM slot in Nextstation ? Date: 23 Apr 1997 01:01:44 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5jjn1o$5cu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <335D517F.2787@case.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) David Case writes: > I have a 25MHz 040 mono NeXtStation and it has a SIMM slot that appears > to be about 64pins or such. What was it for? ROM upgrades? Anything? I believe that this is a ROM upgrade slot, but I could be mistaken. I'm actually intending to scan in a NeXT logic board and ID as many of the chips on it as I can...sometime this summer, probably. gdm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NE2000 driver? Date: 23 Apr 1997 01:38:51 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5jjp7b$4q90@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5jilmd$2l0@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: f210-069.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) h9001648@obelix.wu-wien.ac.at (marcus) wrote: > I'm unable to locate a driver for OpenStep 4.1 for my NE2000 compatible > network card. If you know where to get it, please email me with the URL. > > Thanks a bunch > Marcus For 3.3: ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/driver/intel/NE2000.tar.gz ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/driver/intel/NE2000.tar.gz.readme It should work for 4.x, I think... -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Strange SIMM slot in Nextstation ? Date: 23 Apr 1997 01:39:00 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5jjp7k$lil$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <335D517F.2787@case.com> <5jjn1o$5cu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] eer DSP memory slot??? I think UC in Sanfrancisco used to sell 56kb memory simms for the slots.. Godwin Gian-Paolo D Musumeci (gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu) wrote: : David Case writes: : > I have a 25MHz 040 mono NeXtStation and it has a SIMM slot that appears : > to be about 64pins or such. What was it for? ROM upgrades? Anything? : I believe that this is a ROM upgrade slot, but I could be mistaken. I'm : actually intending to scan in a NeXT logic board and ID as many of the : chips on it as I can...sometime this summer, probably. : gdm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ST 5660N Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 02:15:05 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5jjrcb$gdg@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Can a NextStation Mono Turbo accept a ST5660N Drive? I can't get the danged thing to power up. Matt please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!128.6.21.17!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!merrimac.rutgers.edu!not-for-mail From: jin@merrimac.rutgers.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Choices for laptops running Openstep? Date: 22 Apr 1997 22:45:16 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5jjt3s$p99@merrimac.rutgers.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: merrimac.rutgers.edu I plan to buy a laptop to run Openstep. What would you recommend? Thanks. Gavin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: USR "X2" modem with NeXT hardware (slab) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:59:23 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 21 Message-ID: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat FWIW: my ISP just went to USR X2 servers, so I got me an "X2" modem. Pretty spiffy. I've been able to get connected at 45Kbps over regular phone lines. I ran it at full ftp-download for 45 minutes from my ISP account running 57600 serial port (on my non-turbo slab). I saw download times of 3.1 to 3.2 kb/s for ftp, up from 2.5kb/s max previously. A telnet session from nerc.com to peak.org went a lot smoother. It was just about as fast as being there... WWW downloads seem faster, but I'll have to test it when the Intel arrives later this week... FYI in case any of you have access to an X2 capable ISP... TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!not-for-mail From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Music/MIDI under Rhapsody (was Framegrabber under NS 3.3/Intel) Date: 23 Apr 1997 03:47:50 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5jk0p6$nu6$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <01bc4f14$cbc421a0$a5bf66cf@kyushu.infoserve.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au In article <01bc4f14$cbc421a0$a5bf66cf@kyushu.infoserve.net> "John Hills" writes: Music/MIDI would also seem to be something that needs to be re-supported ASAP. Yes! Apple really needs to build on top of the MIDI/DSP drivers that exist on NeXTStep (black and white) now to keep musicians from accepting Microsoft domination and abandoning their hardware investments. As a minimum: Open MIDI System (OMS) support on top of existing NeXT APIs to attract music developers to continue development on Rhapsody. If Metrowerks delivers on their porting to Rhapsody, OMS API preservation may be enough to retain a market Apple has had since the Apple II days. If they don't come up with something fast, developers will absorb the pain of conversion to the NT native APIs and that will be it for the sound aspect of multimedia authoring for Apple. -- Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia Smith +61-9-380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) #################################################################### Date: 23 Apr 1997 03:53:37 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-by: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: a;odfjdas;l@qpwoerjewa.com Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5jjc4o$3he@argentina.earthlink.net> Control: cancel <5jjc4o$3he@argentina.earthlink.net> X-No-Archive: Yes X-Spam-Type: CELEBRITY Lines: 4 CELEBRITY spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: Kate Moss moss.jpg Total spams this type to date: 1480 Total this spam type for this user to date: 5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Choices for laptops running Openstep? Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:12:19 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <5jjt3s$p99@merrimac.rutgers.edu> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: jin@merrimac.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <5jjt3s$p99@merrimac.rutgers.edu> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Check http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers for one... TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Difference between B/W MegaPixels Date: 23 Apr 1997 05:44:00 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5jk7j0$277$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello all, I am debating whether or not to get another slab as a printer server for the whole house.. the question I have is on the difference between B/W Megapixel.. I know there is a 4000A and B.. but since I seen and have only one or the other.. can someone kind enough to tell me what is the difference and which one si a better buy.. I would like to keep to the "Frog Design" model tho.. or they both essentially the same thing?? Another quick question is what is the optimal config for a slab to be a printer server? Thanks Godwin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!198.53.145.3!news.interlog.com!news From: billyboy@interlog.com (Bill Best) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SyJet or Jaz as boot drive on Mono non-turbo slab? Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 05:38:37 GMT Organization: Red Sector Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <335d9f34.2009439@news.interlog.com> Reply-To: billyboy@interlog.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip95-157.tor.interlog.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 Hi everyone! I have a Mono non-turbo slab that I'd like to get working. Unfortunately it doesn't have a HD in it though. I have been thinking about getting a SyJet or Jaz (external models) for my NT machine and was wondering if I could just use that to boot the Next. Thanks! Bill. [) [) [)ill [)est ========== billyboy@interlog.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!irz401!orion.sax.de!gimli.ardanwen.sax.de!chrisp From: chrisp@sax.sax.de (Christoph Pfisterer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:10:03 +0200 Organization: private site, Dresden, Germany Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: legolas.ardanwen.sax.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10770 comp.sys.next.hardware:28474 comp.sys.next.programmer:24167 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:65974 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22040 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11611 paul maddox wrote: [intro - Apple needs the developers] > Enter the Developer1s Coalition, a well-researched, hard-thought >answer to this problem, and one that should put all support >for Be and other alternatives out of the picture for good. > > Picture: >* A new organization in which the various, usually competing, Mac >hardware vendors *all* come together to encourage and >fund development for the Mac OS-- a group composed of not just the AIM >triad (Apple, IBM, Motorola), but also the 12 or so >cloners, both large and small. >* The stability and harmony such a group will bring the platform with >its 3we1re all in the same boat2 message. >* The reaction of developers to an organization with this breadth and >resource level. >* This same forum taking on many of the other platform-wide duties, such >as evangelism and advertising-- like that PowerPC >commercial everyone is longing for... >* The tremendous boost in public confidence that will result from this >move. > > Sound good? Yea, real good. I wish we'd already have such an organization - we'd finally get the PowerPC ads we've been longing for so long. What do you guys think? -- Christoph "bIQHurgh" Pfisterer "Now the world has gone to bed, chrisp@sax.sax.de Darkness won't engulf my head, http://www.sax.de/~chrisp/ I can see by infra-red, PGP key available How I hate the night." -Marvin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!server1.netnews.ja.net!warwick!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!news From: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Failing to install OpenStep 4.1: 'Target Dropped Busy' Date: 23 Apr 1997 07:38:18 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5jke9a$eqr@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <5ji5gg$ro6@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: fennel.cl.cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) I've solved my own problem: if you get "Target dropped busy" from a SCSI CD while trying to install OpenStep using an Adaptec 2940UW, simply go into SCSI Select and disable init sync and disable init wide. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!not-for-mail From: bvaughan@cats.ucsc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac to Next modem cable? Date: 23 Apr 97 02:46:55 +0000 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <01bc4f14$cbc421a0$a5bf66cf@kyushu.infoserve.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mg131-044.ricochet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 X-News-Servers: news.ricochet.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.ricochet.net/comp.sys.next.hardware X-Fontfamily: Geneva X-Fontsize: 10 Does anyone know where I can find a Macintosh to NeXT modem cable adapter? Also, can I use any Mac modem with my Color NeXT Station (as long as I find the right cable)? Thanks in advance, Bill --------------------------------------------------- This message was created and sent using the Cyberdog Mail System --------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!ratty.wolfe.net!don_arb From: don_arb@wolfenet.com (Don Arbow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:01:02 -0700 Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C. Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: sea-ts5-p20.wolfenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10773 comp.sys.next.hardware:28477 comp.sys.next.programmer:24169 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:65984 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22044 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11612 In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox wrote: : Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. : They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit : 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform : over the competition. : To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- : Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word : modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive : hardware a large performance boost. : What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece : of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to : make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs : the support of developers to make office tools, : games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware : and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of : it, Apple will go nowhere. : Enter the Developer1s Coalition, a well-researched, hard-thought : answer to this problem, and one that should put all support : for Be and other alternatives out of the picture for good. : Someone already beat you to that idea. Check out AIMED, the Association of Independent Macintosh Engineers and Developers. The group was formed over a year ago, but I haven't heard much from them lately. Their home page is located at: http://mcf.com/aimed/ Don -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- \ | / Don Arbow, Partner, CTO | don_arb@wolfenet.com -- EDO -- EveryDay Objects, Inc. | ^ delete underscore / | \ Seattle, WA | http://www.edo-inc.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Prographing web page: http://www.wolfe.net/~donarb/Dataflow.html "The fix is only temporary, unless it works" - Red Green -------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wetware!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SyJet or Jaz as boot drive on Mono non-turbo slab? Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 04:46:28 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <335d9f34.2009439@news.interlog.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Bill Best In-Reply-To: <335d9f34.2009439@news.interlog.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Yes, you can use the SyJet, and I assume the Jaz as well. The SyJet is faster, by all accounts. TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!ix.netcom.com!compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: recover the "boot from Hd" ? Date: 22 Apr 1997 16:47:09 GMT Organization: GENIFI Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5jiq2d$ihh$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> How to recover the "boot from Hd" instead of "searching for network" ? I changed the yellow battery inside the NeXTStation Turbo Color and after I turned on the station. Now, I obtain the "boot from network" instead of "boot from HD". How do I do to change that and start from the HD ? I'm obliged to stop the "boot from network" by pressing the keys ctrl and ~ . and after in the NeXT monitor i have to type bsd to boot from HD. Thanks in advance. Please send me the response by Email Yves Pons Email 100321.1674@compuserve.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!bcc.ac.uk!drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk!hammond_g From: hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Sender: news@ucl.ac.uk (Usenet News System) Message-ID: <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:25:44 GMT Reply-To: hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> Organization: UCL Dept Mech Eng X-Newsreader: mxrn 6.18-9 Lines: 20 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10777 comp.sys.next.hardware:28480 comp.sys.next.programmer:24170 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:65992 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22047 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11613 In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox writes: |> What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece |>of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to |>make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs |>the support of developers to make office tools, |>games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware |>and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of |>it, Apple will go nowhere. Interestingly, Apple are dumping GameSprockets and going for a corporate image when they really should be competing with MS's w95 gaming strategy. -- /** Java G * Virtual Reality ROV Docking Planner * http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~zcemm23 * You broke the light, and now... it's dark. */ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: recover the "boot from Hd" ? Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 06:52:37 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <5jiq2d$ihh$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> In-Reply-To: <5jiq2d$ihh$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Goto the ROM monitor and type 'p' Change the boot command from 'en' to 'sd' TjL #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!ix.netcom.com!nagle From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #9 References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:26:38 GMT Lines: 26 Sender: nagle@netcom6.netcom.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10778 comp.sys.next.hardware:28482 comp.sys.next.programmer:24172 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66005 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22048 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11614 don_arb@wolfenet.com (Don Arbow) writes: >In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox > wrote: >: Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. >: They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit >: 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform >: over the competition. The Alpha is faster and still isn't selling. See the Business week article on it. >: To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- >: Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word >: modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive >: hardware a large performance boost. But it's vaporware. Last year at this time, we had Copland, which was also vaporware, and more compatible. Realistically, nothing is going to happen on the application front until Rhapsody ships to developers. That may or may not happen; Ellison may succeed in his hostile takeover of Apple, the Saudi prince may buy a controlling interest, or Apple may just screw up again. John Nagle #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Monitor Problem Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5jha47$biv@news.jump.net> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 15:58:29 GMT Lines: 41 In article <5jha47$biv@news.jump.net> mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) writes: > I received my NeXT today (YAHOO, this is soooo cool) but the > monitor focus seems to be shifted a bit to the right and up a > little (ie, looks off center). Was wondering if there is a way > to correct this? > If you were a TV service technician you could do so by opening the cover and turn the appropriate controls. If you're not you could fry the cirquits and even successfully set an end to your life. It's up to you to decide... > Secondly, how do I run BuildDisk to create a new boot drive. > 100 MB really doesn't hack it, so I get a 500 MB drive to throw > in this baby. But I want to transfer the system (I've got it > mostly configured) over. Is there a FAQ I could reference? > By double clicking on the icon of BuildDisk.app, of course! No kidding! It's really that easy. But you probably asked about how to get the second drive attached and running. There are several possibilities: An external enclosure is safest. But you could also get a short flat cable with three connectors and feed the second drive from a supplementary power source while leaving the cover open (Cubes even have enough power and space to run two drives internally). You just choose a SCSI-ID of 2 or larger for the second drive, make sure it is running in asynch mode, and the termination is correct. That's all! Attach and power on... Here we go! And the FAQ resides on Peanuts (peanuts.leo.org) and on many mirror sites. Scott Anguish makes a monthly (bi-weekly?) posting to all c.s.n. news groups on sources of NEXTSTEP related info. See if you can find it. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Strange SIMM slot in Nextstation ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 15:09:22 GMT References: <335D517F.2787@case.com> <5jjn1o$5cu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5jjp7k$lil$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article <5jjp7k$lil$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, Godwin wrote: >eer DSP memory slot??? > Yes, that's what it is. People, *PLEASE* look somewhere like DejaNews before posting questions like this. This must be the third time in the last six weeks that this has come up. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.NeXT.COM!usenet From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Strange SIMM slot in Nextstation ? Date: 23 Apr 1997 17:06:37 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5jlfit$pvh@news.next.com> References: <335D517F.2787@case.com> Reply-To: joe_keenan@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: stout.next.com In article <335D517F.2787@case.com> David Case writes: > I have a 25MHz 040 mono NeXtStation and it has a SIMM slot that appears > to be about 64pins or such. What was it for? ROM upgrades? Anything? Expansion RAM for the DSP. joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!delos.dra.hmg.gb!trog.dra.hmg.gb!not-for-mail From: Smurf Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Choices for laptops running Openstep? Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:07:26 +0100 Organization: DERA Message-ID: <335E4FDE.55E0@taz.dra.hmg.gb> References: <5jjt3s$p99@merrimac.rutgers.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.80.11.141 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Lines: 15 jin@merrimac.rutgers.edu wrote: > > I plan to buy a laptop to run Openstep. What would you recommend? > Thanks. > > Gavin Work, luckily for me, just let me buy a IBM 760ED think pad with a now supported 1024 by 768 screen res and it is brilliant. Having just gone through the process of chosing and buying one, just make sure there are the drivers for what you need your laptop to do. My think pad does all I need under W95 and Openstep. Smurf #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!ironhorse.plsys.co.uk!not-for-mail From: mmalcolm crawford Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: 23 Apr 1997 18:06:24 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: pheasant.plsys.co.uk In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00083 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10779 comp.sys.next.hardware:28487 comp.sys.next.programmer:24173 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66012 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22049 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11616 On 04/23/97, John Nagle wrote: > But it's vaporware. Last year at this time, we had Copland, >which was also vaporware, and more compatible. > Hardly vaporware -- it's built on the solid foundtion of OpenStep / Mach. > Realistically, nothing is going to happen on the application front >until Rhapsody ships to developers. > Wrong. We're porting applications at the moment (including Mesa, the leading spreadsheet for NEXTSTEP), and so are others. We might even have stuff to show at WWDC (a bit of a tall order, but a possibility). Best wishes, mmalc. Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!muaddib!mgoedel From: mgoedel@m.isar.de Subject: Re: running cube without monitor Message-ID: Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Reply-To: mgoedel@m.isar.de Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:08:13 GMT Lines: 39 In article Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > In article mgoedel@m.isar.de writes: > > Hello out there, > > > > running two cubes as network servers (one as Master Netinfo server, > > the other one as sybase & web server) i think, monitors will go > > to the goodfather by the next months after running 4 years without > > powering the machines down... > > > > Someone posted a little hardware trick to build a blind connector > > for the monitor output. Does anybody has a pinout for such a > > thing. > > > First, my Megapixel runs for years now with brightness turned down to > minimum and shows no signs of wear. And second, the thing is described in > the FAQ and Usenet archive on Peanuts. It is advisable to establish a > habit to look there, first (or get the Peanuts Archive Disks if you're > offline or have an unstable Network connection ;-) > > -- > Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth > Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and > D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked > GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 So you're a lucky boy :-) :-) :-) In my case, one monitor "has" a problem, Nice greetings from Munich MaX(T) -- __ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10 /\_\ KARSTADT AG Unternehmensbereich IW | 81543 Muenchen \/_/ Sysadmin der cyberb@r | Tel.: 049 89 652918 NeXTSTEP! mgoedel@m.isar.de (NeXT) | Work: 049 89 2902-5418 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Difference between B/W MegaPixels Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:48:10 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 32 Message-ID: <0nLZZe_00WBO03l4ZH@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5jk7j0$277$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5jk7j0$277$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 23-Apr-97 Difference between B/W Mega.. by Godwin@unixg.ubc.ca > I am debating whether or not to get another slab as a printer server for > the whole house.. the question I have is on the difference between B/W > Megapixel.. I know there is a 4000A and B.. but since I seen and have > only one or the other.. can someone kind enough to tell me what is the > difference and which one si a better buy.. I would like to keep to the > "Frog Design" model tho.. or they both essentially the same thing?? The A model was the original, and it had wheels which made it convenient to move around. However, the monitor's expected lifespan supposedly was only about 10,000 hours, and some of the A monitors used a phosphor which fades and dims after a while. The B model avoids the fading problem and is supposed to have a lifespan of 30,000-40,000 hours, but it has a platform base without the wheels. I'd get the B if you have the choice. > Another quick question is what is the optimal config for a slab to be a > printer server? "Optimal" depends on what kind of workload you plan on giving it. In general, make sure you've got an adequate amount of memory in the machine (32 MB or more would be good). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!not-for-mail From: andydunn@op.net (Andy Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Okidata 610/PS Date: 23 Apr 1997 21:31:34 GMT Organization: OpNet -- Greater Philadelphia Internet Service Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5jlv3n$1eo$1@picasso.op.net> Reply-To: andydunn@op.net NNTP-Posting-Host: d4-09.ppp.op.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Hi, Has anyone tried getting an Okidata 610/PS printer to work with a slab? Do any of the NeXT-supplied ppd files work for it? Thanks, _andy dunn #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news2.mnsinc.com!news1.mnsinc.com!usenet From: Johnny Waters - Staff Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISDN Help Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:03:59 -0400 Organization: iNEX Lines: 16 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <335E874F.FA1@inext.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: chester.internext.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; U; SunOS 5.5 sun4u) I have an ADB NeXT Turbo Color Slab (From DeepSpace Tech. in Frederick Md, plug plug) and I am curious about the feasability of ISDN. Here are my questions that do not seem to be addressed in any FAQ that I have seen. 1) What is the Max baudRate of the serial ports on the NeXT Turbo Color (ADB)? 2) Has anyone successfully used a NeXT with a normal (non DSP port) TA? 3) Any known problems with BitSurfer pros? (other than known BSP bugs and assumign that 2's answer is "yes")... thank you in advance Johnny Waters, waters@inext.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!nordwest.pop.de!news.hamburg.pop.de!news.seicom.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!netcom.net.uk!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!lboro.ac.uk!cojch From: J.C.Highfield@lboro.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: 23 Apr 1997 23:19:32 GMT Organization: Loughborough University, UK. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5jm5e4$g54@sun-cc204.lboro.ac.uk> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Reply-To: J.C.Highfield@lboro.ac.uk (JC Highfield) NNTP-Posting-Host: sun-cc201.lut.ac.uk Originator: cojch@sun-cc201 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10785 comp.sys.next.hardware:28492 comp.sys.next.programmer:24175 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66040 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22053 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11618 In article <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>, mmalcolm crawford wrote: >On 04/23/97, John Nagle wrote: >> Realistically, nothing is going to happen on the application front >>until Rhapsody ships to developers. >> >Wrong. We're porting applications at the moment (including Mesa, the >leading spreadsheet for NEXTSTEP), and so are others. We might even have >stuff to show at WWDC (a bit of a tall order, but a possibility). Um, what exactly are you porting to - OpenStep? Regards, Julian. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Choices for laptops running Openstep? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 20:54:41 GMT References: <5jjt3s$p99@merrimac.rutgers.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 In article <5jjt3s$p99@merrimac.rutgers.edu>, wrote: > > > >I plan to buy a laptop to run Openstep. What would you recommend? Not exactly Openstep, but this weekend I'm going to attack our lab's Hyperdata laptop with 3.3. Will let you know hot it goes... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.ttu.edu!usenet From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: viewing area on 21" monitor Date: 24 Apr 1997 00:24:17 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5jm97h$muk@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Reply-To: seran@osci.me.ttu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: rayleigh.me.ttu.edu i have a NeXT station color turbo with a 21" monitor. is there a way to increase the viewing area on the screen? hs #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsgate.direct.ca!usenet From: Great Opportunity Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Earn Upwards of $10000 per month Date: 23 Apr 1997 22:59:49 GMT Organization: Successful People R Us Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5jm495$7ut$2082@orb.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: cal-52-0105.direct.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is being brought to you by Dynamic Mail - the easier and faster's way to explodes your business on the internet. 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See the Business : week article on it. The Alpha doesn't run anything worth having. That Businessweek article can be summed up with "Software sells hardware". All that speed won't help me if it doesn't run the software I want to run. (Yes, it runs linux. Yes it runs a smattering of NT software. In neither case is there a compelling reason to buy an Alpha over some other platform. At least not compelling enough for a lot of people to buy it.) The Mac runs software that a lot of people like to run. Therefore, speed matters. -- Jonathan W. Hendry jon@exnext.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!night.primate.wisc.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with Triton II, S3, and NS 3.3? Date: 24 Apr 1997 02:56:56 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5jmi5o$4uuq@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: f181-065.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I read a while ago that people were having problems with the Triton II (HX) chipset and S3 based video cards under NEXTSTEP 3.3. Is there any workaround (I recall that 4.x seems to have the problem fixed.)? Are there any other chipsets that S3 cards don't seem to work with under 3.3? (I'm currently using a Triton I chipset but have more than 64 MB RAM and want to cache it all!) Any help would be appreciated! -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Difference between B/W MegaPixels Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:39:47 GMT References: <5jk7j0$277$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <0nLZZe_00WBO03l4ZH@andrew.cmu.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 27 In article <0nLZZe_00WBO03l4ZH@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger wrote: > >The A model was the original, and it had wheels which made it convenient >to move around. However, the monitor's expected lifespan supposedly was >only about 10,000 hours, and some of the A monitors used a phosphor >which fades and dims after a while. > There was also the plain N4000, no letters. It was the most prone to dimming. You can tell it from the A version by its shiny screen (the A had a non-reflective coating) and the A has a microphone on the front; the original didn't. >The B model avoids the fading problem and is supposed to have a lifespan >of 30,000-40,000 hours, but it has a platform base without the wheels. >I'd get the B if you have the choice. > I think most of the B's were constructed with ADB circuitry, so you may have to be careful. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5jm495$7ut$2082@orb.direct.ca> Date: 24 Apr 1997 01:46:44 GMT Control: cancel <5jm495$7ut$2082@orb.direct.ca> Message-ID: Sender: Great Opportunity X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!biosci!news.alaska.edu!aurora.alaska.edu!fflak From: fflak@aurora.alaska.edu (KELLY ALONZO H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which drivers for laptop? Date: 24 Apr 1997 04:11:35 GMT Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5jmmhn$mtn@news.alaska.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: aurora.alaska.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I am trying to find a laptop to run NeXTStep 3.3 intel. This laptop should be pretty rugged, since I would use it in the field. Panasonic has the CF62, which they ran over with a Humvee at COMDEX. It's dust and water resistant and has a magnesium case. The government price looks pretty good compared to a thinkpad 760ED. My question is, how can I find out what drivers I need, and if they are available? The display is "1024 x 768 xga." I looked on NestAnswers, but couldn't find anything except the thinkpad display drivers. Would there be a way to know if the thinkpad drivers would work? DO I need drivers for the drives, the PCMCIA ports, the internal modem? What are these drivers, LKSes? Is it possible to write them yourself? 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Last year at this time, we had Copland, > >which was also vaporware, and more compatible. > > > Hardly vaporware -- it's built on the solid foundtion of OpenStep / Mach. > > > Realistically, nothing is going to happen on the application front > >until Rhapsody ships to developers. > > > Wrong. We're porting applications at the moment (including Mesa, the > leading spreadsheet for NEXTSTEP), and so are others. We might even have > stuff to show at WWDC (a bit of a tall order, but a possibility). > > Best wishes, > > mmalc. > > Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk > Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems > Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm > > -- > Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk > Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems > Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm Guys this is all well and good to debate, but what about this Developer's Coalition idea? What do you think? I think we as Mac programmers should be very interested. Just my $.02 Nantes -- Remove ".nospam" for a valid e-mail address. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!news.cc.ukans.edu!novinger From: novinger@eecs.ukans.edu (Nantes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:23:27 -0600 Organization: University of Kansas Computing Services Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: kuts6p10.cc.ukans.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10794 comp.sys.next.hardware:28502 comp.sys.next.programmer:24181 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66070 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22061 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11623 In article <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk>, hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) wrote: > In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, > paul maddox writes: > > |> What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece > |>of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to > |>make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs > |>the support of developers to make office tools, > |>games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware > |>and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of > |>it, Apple will go nowhere. > > Interestingly, Apple are dumping GameSprockets and going for a corporate > image when they really should be competing with MS's w95 gaming strategy. > > -- > /** Java G > * Virtual Reality ROV Docking Planner > * http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~zcemm23 > * You broke the light, and now... it's dark. */ While i share the feelings about game Sprockets, Apple has commented that they are not being dropped from macos, and could make it into rhapsody. However, they've also said that the openstep environment already has comparable APIs. But back to the point, let's all get this coalition rolling. Despite all of Apple's faults, they still make the best damn computer in the world! Let's help 'em by telling the world. Check out http://www.macmarines.com/dcnews.html for Developers Coalition news and an e-mail campaign packet. nantes -- Remove ".nospam" for a valid e-mail address. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!news.cc.ukans.edu!novinger From: novinger@eecs.ukans.edu (Nantes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:36:27 -0600 Organization: University of Kansas Computing Services Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: kuts6p10.cc.ukans.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10795 comp.sys.next.hardware:28503 comp.sys.next.programmer:24182 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66071 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22062 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11624 In article , don_arb@wolfenet.com (Don Arbow) wrote: > In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox > wrote: > > : Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. > : They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit > : 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform > : over the competition. > : To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- > : Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word > : modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive > : hardware a large performance boost. > : What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece > : of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to > : make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs > : the support of developers to make office tools, > : games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware > : and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of > : it, Apple will go nowhere. > : Enter the Developer1s Coalition, a well-researched, hard-thought > : answer to this problem, and one that should put all support > : for Be and other alternatives out of the picture for good. > : > > Someone already beat you to that idea. Check out AIMED, the Association > of Independent Macintosh Engineers and Developers. The group was formed > over a year ago, but I haven't heard much from them lately. Their home > page is located at: > > http://mcf.com/aimed/ > > Don > > -- While I like to see groups like AIMED, they are not the saem thing as the Developers Coalition. From what I unbderstand, the DC would be an outspoken pro-mac force. they would not only help developers with resources, amrketing, job recruting, but would also evangelise the Mac in general. The idea is that the coalition be funded by the Mac powers that be (Apple, Motorola, UMAX, Power, APS, etc.). They would advertise the platform as well as the superior PowerPC processor. Nantes -- Remove ".nospam" for a valid e-mail address. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!irz401!orion.sax.de!gimli.ardanwen.sax.de!chrisp From: chrisp@sax.sax.de (Christoph Pfisterer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:55:34 +0200 Organization: private site, Dresden, Germany Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: legolas.ardanwen.sax.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10797 comp.sys.next.hardware:28504 comp.sys.next.programmer:24185 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66080 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22064 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11626 don_arb@wolfenet.com (Don Arbow) wrote: >In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox > wrote: > >: Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. >: They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit >: 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform >: over the competition. >: To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- >: Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word >: modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive >: hardware a large performance boost. >: What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece >: of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to >: make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs >: the support of developers to make office tools, >: games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware >: and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of >: it, Apple will go nowhere. >: Enter the Developer1s Coalition, a well-researched, hard-thought >: answer to this problem, and one that should put all support >: for Be and other alternatives out of the picture for good. >: > >Someone already beat you to that idea. Check out AIMED, the Association >of Independent Macintosh Engineers and Developers. The group was formed >over a year ago, but I haven't heard much from them lately. Their home >page is located at: Well, AIMED is just an association of developers and AFAIK it's not backed up by any bigger company. The idea with this "Developers Coalition" is that _Apple itself_ and the clone makers launch a joint effort to support software developers, especially small, innovative start-ups and the like. Get the picture? -- Christoph "bIQHurgh" Pfisterer "Now the world has gone to bed, chrisp@sax.sax.de Darkness won't engulf my head, http://www.sax.de/~chrisp/ I can see by infra-red, PGP key available How I hate the night." -Marvin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!stdio!uninett.no!hermod.uio.no!nntp.uio.no!ubmac86.uio.no!user From: kolbjorn.aambo@ub.uio.no (Kolbjørn Aambø) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 09:48:07 +0100 Organization: UBO Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: ubmac86.uio.no Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10800 comp.sys.next.hardware:28505 comp.sys.next.programmer:24188 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66087 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22067 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11627 In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox wrote: > Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. > They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit > 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform > over the competition. > To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- > Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word > modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive > hardware a large performance boost. : > Picture: > * A new organization in which the various, usually competing, Mac > hardware vendors *all* come together to encourage and > fund development for the Mac OS-- a group composed of not just the AIM > triad (Apple, IBM, Motorola), but also the 12 or so > cloners, both large and small. That Idea is allready taken by 100%Pure Java. I think Apple should rather cooperate with 100%Pure Java and make a Operating System that are implementing threading as well between application processes as it seems to be able to do within Application Processes now. If the Mac in a year is not the best Java Machine to develop on and to use I guess a lot of people will look for something else. At least my impression of things like Java2D is just as well as that of NextSteps Display PostScript. In a year I think that will be obvious to more people. As many other people I am angry because apple is playing catch-up on Java because it had all it brains emerged in OpenDoc and or Copeland. May be Apple should hire more women since they seems more able to have more than one thought in their head simultaneously. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Strange SIMM slot in Nextstation ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:55:12 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 13 In article , wrote: > >Why so unfriendly? When "you" started with NeXT or NeXTSTEP, you >also had a lot of questions. I know, I was just frustrated. This comes up so often, and is mentioned in the FAQ. Hmmm...maybe the FAQs should be more visible... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: running cube without monitor Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:19:49 GMT Lines: 23 In article mgoedel@m.isar.de writes: > Hello out there, > > running two cubes as network servers (one as Master Netinfo server, > the other one as sybase & web server) i think, monitors will go > to the goodfather by the next months after running 4 years without > powering the machines down... > > Someone posted a little hardware trick to build a blind connector > for the monitor output. Does anybody has a pinout for such a > thing. > First, my Megapixel runs for years now with brightness turned down to minimum and shows no signs of wear. And second, the thing is described in the FAQ and Usenet archive on Peanuts. It is advisable to establish a habit to look there, first (or get the Peanuts Archive Disks if you're offline or have an unstable Network connection ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nakamichi Changer with black hardware Date: 24 Apr 1997 09:22:36 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5jn8os$8lv$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello all, I know this question has been brought up before by either Robert? or somebody.. I got 2 Nakamichi 4 speed CD Changers to store my photoCDs.. I want to hook the whole thing up to the cube which is going to be the printer / file server.. instead of the two things hogging real estate on my desk.. Now the question is is there ANY way I can make the drivers just appear as 1 drive for each changer? Right now if I plug just one on to the cube.. the 7 different plates will appear as one drive.. kicking off my Zip and MO drive.... Not a big deal.. but since I rarely change the CDs I won't mind hiding them in the closet! Any pointers is appreciated... godwin #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: viewing area on 21" monitor Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5jm97h$muk@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:00:13 GMT Lines: 15 In article <5jm97h$muk@ttacs7.ttu.edu> seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu writes: > i have a NeXT station color turbo with a 21" monitor. > > is there a way to increase the viewing area on the screen? > I guess there will be some controls inside the case. If you dare to open it... Remember, I won't come to your funeral service :-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!cust5.max2.phoenix.az.ms.uu.net!user From: devon@onyx-tech.com (Devon Hubbard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:25:20 -0700 Organization: Onyx Technology, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: cust5.max2.phoenix.az.ms.uu.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10801 comp.sys.next.hardware:28510 comp.sys.next.programmer:24190 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66109 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22075 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11628 In article , novinger@eecs.ukans.edu (Nantes) wrote: > While I like to see groups like AIMED, they are not the saem thing as the >Developers Coalition. From what I unbderstand, the DC would be an >outspoken pro-mac force. they would not only help developers with >resources, amrketing, job recruting, but would also evangelise the Mac in >general. This is exactly what AIMED was created for. AIMED needs to grow into a outspoken pro-Mac force with a large body of developers behind it. >The idea is that the coalition be funded by the Mac powers that be (Apple, >Motorola, UMAX, Power, APS, etc.). They would advertise the platform as >well as the superior PowerPC processor. In order to successfully achieve aforementioned goal, it'd be pretty hard to be out-spoken if the Mac powers we may criticize at times are paying the bills. This is the same reason we didn't want to be directly sponsored by a large vendor or publication. You can't truly remain independent when your hand is in someone else's pocket. Let's continue this thread on the mailing list. Subscription is possible through the web site at . Cheers, dEVoN Hubbard Onyx Technology, Inc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!cust5.max2.phoenix.az.ms.uu.net!user From: devon@onyx-tech.com (Devon Hubbard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:50:26 -0700 Organization: Onyx Technology, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: cust5.max2.phoenix.az.ms.uu.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10802 comp.sys.next.hardware:28511 comp.sys.next.programmer:24191 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66110 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22076 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11629 In article , novinger@eecs.ukans.edu (Nantes) wrote: >Guys this is all well and good to debate, but what about this Developer's >Coalition idea? What do you think? > >I think we as Mac programmers should be very interested. Just my $.02 Well said. Since this thread seems to be of interest to a few folks I'd really like to suggest discussion like this continue on the aimed-talk@aimed.org mailing list. There you can discuss the coalition topic with a group of people already working toward a similar goal and discuss other topics as well in a more realtime environment (a losely used term considering newsgroup postings aren't as timely as a mailing list). Subscription information for AIMED mailing lists can be found on the web site at . Cheers, dEVoN Hubbard Onyx Technology, Inc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dmv.com!dave From: dave@dmv.com (J. David Purnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black next won't recognize external drive Date: 25 Apr 1997 05:21:46 GMT Organization: DelMarVa OnLine! Lines: 31 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5jpf1a$oau@news.dmv.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: www.dmv.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hi, I've recently gotten hold of a couple of slabs, a NeXTstation turbo and a NeXTstation turbo color. I have a fujitsu model M2694ESA 1 gig external drive. The turbo station is running 3.0 and the color turbo is running 3.3 the turbo recognizes the fujitsu at bootup and it reads just fine in the workspace. The color turbo has a problem recognizing the drive though. As it's booting and looking for devices it displays this: sc: Unexpected msg SCSI unexpected msg:1 It will do this forever until the drive is turned off, then it boots fine. I've formatted the fujitsu drive with the turbo station but the color turbo still has problems with it. Is this a difference between 3.0 and 3.3? Or between the turbo and the color turbo? How can I get this to work? TIA, Dave #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!ironhorse.plsys.co.uk!not-for-mail From: mmalcolm crawford Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: 25 Apr 1997 11:19:21 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5jq3vp$4vp$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5jm5e4$g54@sun-cc204.lboro.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: pheasant.plsys.co.uk In-Reply-To: <5jm5e4$g54@sun-cc204.lboro.ac.uk> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00083 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10809 comp.sys.next.hardware:28513 comp.sys.next.programmer:24194 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66135 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22082 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11632 On 04/24/97, J.C.Highfield@lboro.ac.uk wrote: >In article <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>, >mmalcolm crawford wrote: >>Wrong. We're porting applications at the moment (including Mesa, the >>leading spreadsheet for NEXTSTEP), and so are others. We might even have >>stuff to show at WWDC (a bit of a tall order, but a possibility). > >Um, what exactly are you porting to - OpenStep? > Yes, which should give a good basis for Rhapsody. As soon as we have a copy of Rhapsody we will ensure it runs on it. Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!surfnet.nl!tudelft.nl!news From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with Triton II, S3, and NS 3.3? Date: 25 Apr 1997 12:09:58 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5jq6um$b6l$1@news.tudelft.nl> References: <5jmi5o$4uuq@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dutifb.twi.tudelft.nl Theodore J. Allen writes > I read a while ago that people were having > problems with the Triton II (HX) chipset > and S3 based video cards under NEXTSTEP 3.3. > Is there any workaround (I recall that 4.x > seems to have the problem fixed.)? > No, there is no real working workaround. Buy another video card or another motherboard or buy OS 4.2 for mach. Abraham G. _____________________________________________________________________ Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356 Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft Faculty Technical Mathematics & Informatics The Netherlands Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 78 5969 E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cs.uoregon.edu!news.efn.org!dynip113.efn.org!user From: johns@efn.org (John Selhorst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 05:37:19 -0700 Organization: himself Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dynip113.efn.org X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10810 comp.sys.next.hardware:28515 comp.sys.next.programmer:24195 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66139 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22083 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11633 In article <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>, mmalcolm crawford wrote: >On 04/23/97, John Nagle wrote: >> Realistically, nothing is going to happen on the application front >>until Rhapsody ships to developers. >> >Wrong. We're porting applications at the moment (including Mesa, the >leading spreadsheet for NEXTSTEP), and so are others. We might even have >stuff to show at WWDC (a bit of a tall order, but a possibility). This is rather interesting. Are you porting from NextStep (sp?) to OpenStep? It seems that porting to the PowerPC is rather trivial, if the tools are ready. What hardware/software are you using to port Mesa, which I assumed was already OpenStep compatible. I hope Apple is actively supporting your efforts. Johnny #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!dciteleport.com!usenet.logical.net!news.dal.ca!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!morgan.ucs.mun.ca!kwong From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: FAXing with PPP Date: 23 Apr 1997 14:24:06 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5jl626$ggg@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <5itiq6$17m@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5j6v85$bm@news.myriad.net> <5jbcm1$j7l@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <335AFBA3.5801@ultranet.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0+nov (built 96.Apr.19 13:04) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28516 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26485 John Hills writes: >I would agree that mgetty+sendfax would be the way to go. If you manage to >get them installed and configured let me know. I think you have to be a bit >of a propellor-head to set up mgetty! I have a copy compiled. Send me email if you want one. kai -- Software Engineer email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca url: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/ PGP fingerprint <1B 67 F5 6C C4 44 4F 87 52 F7 61 C7 8E D0 36 40> finger kwong@plato.ucs.mun.ca to get PGP public key. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New Bat/ Mickey mouse!!! Date: 25 Apr 1997 11:33:23 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5jq4q3$abp$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Saw some Mickey mouses (ADB) for sale $49 and the ad claimed them to be new!!! http://www.shrevesystems.com/access.html never dealed with them so don't ask me AND DON"T BLAME ME! Godwin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Strange SIMM slot in Nextstation ? Date: Fri, 25 Apr 97 13:49:59 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5jqcrc$6ca@news.jump.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 On that note: Many newsgroups have an automated posting of the list of FAQs availble that is reposted every two to three weeks. Could one such autoposter be set up here? Matt In article , dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > >In article , wrote: >> >>Why so unfriendly? When "you" started with NeXT or NeXTSTEP, you >>also had a lot of questions. > > I know, I was just frustrated. This comes up so often, and is mentioned in >the FAQ. Hmmm...maybe the FAQs should be more visible... > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 09:12:38 -0600 From: mjasonsmith@hotmail.com Subject: Turbo Mono and Next Laser Printer for sale Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <861976359.32118@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: mjasonsmith@hotmail.com X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Apr 25 13:52:39 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 129.59.172.42 () X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01 (Win95; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: mjasonsmith@hotmail.com Lines: 7 Next Station Turbo Mono System and Laser printer for sale. $500 for everything 16 mb ram, 1 gig hard drive. business applications included such as two word processing programs, two spreadsheet programs, diagraming, charting etc. Call 615-399-1951 if interested. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: hippykill@my.own.bad.site (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do you drop a NextStation into ROM diagnostics? Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 17:19:15 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3360e70d.70886204@news.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn001197.belt.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 I have a NextStation and was having trouble getting it to boot--and I didn't know the password to change the BIOS settings. So I took out the battery and left it overnight. Now it tries to boot off the (non-existant) network, and I can't convince it to drop into ROM diagnostics so I can tell it to boot of the sd. Is there any way to do this? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!185.chicago-036.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Strange SIMM slot in Nextstation ? Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 15:43:42 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.63.185 > > I know, I was just frustrated. This comes up so often, and is mentioned in > the FAQ. Hmmm...maybe the FAQs should be more visible... > Actually, someone suggested scanning photos of the boards and labeling them and making the scans available. I'm willing to do the scanning and labeling if someone can help me out with it. I have a digital camera and can scan the following: '030 Cube board '040 Turbo Cube board (ADB) '040 mono station board ND board Backplane (if anyone think's that's useful) Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How do you drop a NextStation into ROM diagnostics? Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:56:57 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3360e70d.70886204@news.digex.net> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira In-Reply-To: <3360e70d.70886204@news.digex.net> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat > I have a NextStation and was having trouble getting it to boot--and I > didn't know the password to change the BIOS settings. So I took out > the battery and left it overnight. Now it tries to boot off the > (non-existant) network, and I can't convince it to drop into ROM > diagnostics so I can tell it to boot of the sd. Is there any way to > do this? Yes, and I've written it all up and posted it on my web page, under the FAQ listing. Basically you want to hold down both the command keys and hit the ~ over the 7 on the keypad right when the booting begins then change the boot prompt to 'sd' from 'en' TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!boingo.amil.jhu.edu!news.jhu.edu!mem From: mem@jhu.edu (Mel Martinez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:57:52 -0400 Organization: horse and dog Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.220.145.30 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10814 comp.sys.next.hardware:28523 comp.sys.next.programmer:24199 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66192 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22093 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11638 In article <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk>, hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) wrote: > > Interestingly, Apple are dumping GameSprockets and going for a corporate > image when they really should be competing with MS's w95 gaming strategy. > According to information reported on MacInTouch (http://www.macintouch.com and other sources, the GameSprockets team is still pretty much intact and GS is still alive at least on MacOS 7/8 & Rhapsody Blue Box for the next few years. The only unknown is whether they will port GS to Rhapsody Yellow Box - the comment on this from one of the team members was essentially that even _they_ don't know if that is worth doing or not. If it seems viable and worthwhile (developer demand and no worthy alternative) then they will probably be steered towards doing so. Otherwise not. I am beginning to believe this is the case with several of the Apple Technologies that have been supposedly 'dropped'. Most are actually simply going into maintenance mode. While this is aggravating in several particular instances and seems to pull the rug on many developers (okay, it IS pulling the rug on many OpenDoc developers) it does allow Apple to keep their promises to a minimum and hopefully ensure a quicker native delivery of Rhapsody. Later, Apple could pull a change a heart on any one or more of these items as circumstances dictate. I just hope they do a full and robust implementation of AppleScript that allows strong communication between the Yellow and Blue boxes. But we are off-topic. A strong pro-mac/rhapsodyOS developer coalition would certainly not be a bad thing, but the devil is in the details. Gotta go. Mel Martinez The Johns Hopkins University Dept. of Physics mem@jhu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!n4tor.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: 25 Apr 1997 21:36:04 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 57 Message-ID: <5jr844$m66$1@news.digifix.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10816 comp.sys.next.hardware:28524 comp.sys.next.programmer:24200 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66193 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22095 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11639 On 04/25/97, Mel Martinez wrote: > >In article <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk>, >hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) wrote: >> >> Interestingly, Apple are dumping GameSprockets and going for a corporate >> image when they really should be competing with MS's w95 gaming strategy. >> > >According to information reported on MacInTouch (http://www.macintouch.com >and other sources, the GameSprockets team is still pretty much >intact and GS is still alive at least on MacOS 7/8 & Rhapsody Blue >Box for the next few years. The only unknown is whether they will >port GS to Rhapsody Yellow Box - the comment on this from one of >the team members was essentially that even _they_ don't know if >that is worth doing or not. This is pretty much right from the sprockets-mouth While Game Sprockets on its own isn't necessarily an easy sell, the capabilities it offers are coming to Rhapsody... When it comes right down to it, thats what is important. From http://www.stepwise.com Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 From: Chris De Salvo To: mac-games-dev@solutions.apple.com Subject: The state of Sprockets I don't know where the rumors start about the fate/state of Sprockets, but let me set the record straight... Nothing is dying, nothing is being cut, nothing is being omitted. Period. All of the Sprockets will continue to exist in the Mac OS world. Mac OS will continue to exist for at LEAST another two years, probably more. As far as Rhapsody goes, there is no guarantee that the Sprockets API set will be present. However, ALL of the FUNCTIONALITY will be present, it just might be part of a different API. For instance, the new OpenStep NSDirectScreen class provides all of the context and CLUT operations that DrawSprocket provides. It will soon provide the double-buffering functionality we need as well. -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.orst.edu!news.ohsu.edu!ohsu.edu!kinselle From: kinselle@ohsu.edu (Doug Kinsella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTStep on laptop? Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:49:59 GMT Organization: OHSU Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.53.21.77 X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Does anyone know whether I can run NeXTStep for Intel (specific version) on a $3000-or-so laptop? I would like to get a docking station (for ethernet and 17" monitor). Minimum hardrive is ok (I'm getting a 2.1Gb SCSI for my 68040 NeXTStation that I'll be networking). Sorry, Mac's 3400 PowerBook is too expensive an option and the 1400 just isn't quite enough. I like Dell & Micron, but will listen to reason. I have browsed the web & have a call in to NeXT, but nothing yet. Sincere thanks. Doug Kinsella Reply here or audreyk@teleport.com. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: hippykill@my.own.bad.site (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How do you drop a NextStation into ROM diagnostics? Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 22:20:59 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <33612e0f.89067379@news.digex.net> References: <3360e70d.70886204@news.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn001197.belt.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 11:56:57 -0700, Timothy Luoma wrote: >Yes, and I've written it all up and posted it on my web page, under the >FAQ listing. Basically you want to hold down both the command keys and >hit the ~ over the 7 on the keypad right when the booting begins then >change the boot prompt to 'sd' from 'en' Thank you! Exactly what I needed--now I've got a running NextStation...now to get it onto my home network... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planetary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on laptop? Date: 25 Apr 1997 21:25:36 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5jrsjg$7bs@xmission.xmission.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970327; sun4m SunOS 5.5.1] Doug Kinsella wrote: : Does anyone know whether I can run NeXTStep for Intel (specific version) on a : $3000-or-so laptop? I would like to get a docking station (for ethernet and : 17" monitor). Minimum hardrive is ok (I'm getting a 2.1Gb SCSI for my 68040 : NeXTStation that I'll be networking). Sorry, Mac's 3400 PowerBook is too : expensive an option and the 1400 just isn't quite enough. I like Dell & : Micron, but will listen to reason. I have browsed the web & have a call in to : NeXT, but nothing yet. Sincere thanks. No, you can only run NeXTstep for Intel on a laptop that costs more than $4000. ROTFL. Now that I've got that out of my system, here's the real answer: Yes. You should be able to run NS/I on most laptops. You can get an old Versa for $1000 or so that would run it fine, or you can spend a few thousand on a Toshiba Tecra that will run it exceptionally well. You should talk to my old, good friend Dan Kramer at Bifrost (http://www.bifrostworks.com) for info about laptops and NS/I. ................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on laptop? Date: 26 Apr 1997 04:20:33 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5jrvqh$hto$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5jrsjg$7bs@xmission.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] check out drivers by www.deepspacetech.com they have it for some cirus and c&t chipsets.. TP 560 is about 3000??? that would do! What the 4000 thing? Godwin planetary (planet@xmission.xmission.com) wrote: : Doug Kinsella wrote: : : Does anyone know whether I can run NeXTStep for Intel (specific version) on a : : $3000-or-so laptop? I would like to get a docking station (for ethernet and : : 17" monitor). Minimum hardrive is ok (I'm getting a 2.1Gb SCSI for my 68040 : : NeXTStation that I'll be networking). Sorry, Mac's 3400 PowerBook is too : : expensive an option and the 1400 just isn't quite enough. I like Dell & : : Micron, but will listen to reason. I have browsed the web & have a call in to : : NeXT, but nothing yet. Sincere thanks. : No, you can only run NeXTstep for Intel on a laptop that costs more than : $4000. : ROTFL. : Now that I've got that out of my system, here's the real answer: Yes. : You should be able to run NS/I on most laptops. You can get an old Versa : for $1000 or so that would run it fine, or you can spend a few thousand on : a Toshiba Tecra that will run it exceptionally well. : You should talk to my old, good friend Dan Kramer at Bifrost : (http://www.bifrostworks.com) for info about laptops and NS/I. : ................kris : -- : Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de!news From: Bastian Schlueter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with Triton II, S3, and NS 3.3? Date: 25 Apr 1997 17:26:44 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5jqpgk$9hl@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <5jmi5o$4uuq@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5jq6um$b6l$1@news.tudelft.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de Organisation: RRR X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) wrote: > Theodore J. Allen writes > > I read a while ago that people were having > > problems with the Triton II (HX) chipset > > and S3 based video cards under NEXTSTEP 3.3. > > Is there any workaround (I recall that 4.x > > seems to have the problem fixed.)? > > > > No, there is no real working workaround. Buy another video card or > another motherboard or buy OS 4.2 for mach. Or just live with "verbose" boot/shutdown. ciao Bastian (with Triton II, S3 and NS3.3) -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Hendry Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:13:14 -0700 Organization: CTS Network Services Lines: 48 Message-ID: <336164BA.6A1E@cts.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> <5jr844$m66$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: optional.cts.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Cache-Post-Path: optional.cts.com!unknown@p46156242.cts.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10820 comp.sys.next.hardware:28530 comp.sys.next.programmer:24202 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66217 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22101 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11644 Scott Anguish wrote: > > On 04/25/97, Mel Martinez wrote: > > > >In article <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk>, > >hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) wrote: > >> > >> Interestingly, Apple are dumping GameSprockets and going for a > corporate > >> image when they really should be competing with MS's w95 gaming > strategy. > >> > > > >According to information reported on MacInTouch > (http://www.macintouch.com > >and other sources, the GameSprockets team is still pretty much > >intact and GS is still alive at least on MacOS 7/8 & Rhapsody Blue > >Box for the next few years. The only unknown is whether they will > >port GS to Rhapsody Yellow Box - the comment on this from one of > >the team members was essentially that even _they_ don't know if > >that is worth doing or not. > > This is pretty much right from the sprockets-mouth > > While Game Sprockets on its own isn't necessarily an easy > sell, the capabilities it offers are coming to Rhapsody... > > When it comes right down to it, thats what is important. > Exactly. If all Apple did was directly port the old technologies over, it would be as bad as Microsoft's Mac software. Microsoft's Mac apps are Windows at the core, with only the slightest accomodation of the Mac way of doing things. And you can tell. Apple has to look at the old Mac OS technologies, and figure out how they would best be implemented in the new OS. Things like Game Sprockets should be redesigned to take the most advantage of the capabilities of Rhapsody. MacOS didn't have Mach messages, or distributed objects, or a dynamic OOP language as the preferred implementation language. Rhapsody does, and Apple should rearchitect their technologies to take advantage of them. - Jon #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!ix.netcom.com!dwagley From: dwagley@netcom.com (Doug Wagley) Subject: NeXT hardware support? Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Keywords: hardware printer Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:15:40 GMT Lines: 10 Sender: dwagley@netcom5.netcom.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25721 comp.sys.next.hardware:28531 Is anyone still providing maintenance for NeXT hardware? I have an unhappy NeXT laser printer that has developed a high pitched whine and waits a very long time before feeding the sheet. It then just prints a thin horizontal smear across the paper. I'm in the metro Denver area. If anybody knows who could provide service please let me know. Thanks, Doug dwagley@netcom.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!thor.cmp.ilstu.edu!news From: "Eric A. Dubiel" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Canon 21" Hitachi Monitor Resolution? Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:52:34 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Lines: 15 Message-ID: <33628723.4250@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Reply-To: eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: h0010111.smith.ilstu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Hi, anyone happend to have the specs on the Canon 21" Hitachi Monitor that Canon sold as an option to the object.station? I'm particularly interested in the maximum resolution and refresh @ the maximum resolution. Thanks! -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 --- MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!urvile.msus.edu!CSLAB.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU!MAHARAJ From: maharaj@CSLAB.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU (Pradeep Bashyal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: 26 Apr 1997 22:45:08 GMT Organization: BEMIDJI STATE UNIVERSITY Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5ju0hk$ktg@Urvile.MSUS.EDU> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> Reply-To: maharaj@CSLAB.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU NNTP-Posting-Host: tick.bemidji.msus.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10824 comp.sys.next.hardware:28533 comp.sys.next.programmer:24204 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66235 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22105 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11646 Mmultimedia evangelist for Apple Developer relainos, Tony Tamas, concerning Game Sprockets : GCS Cys: Tony, what is Apple looking towards to replace the GCS Cys: Game Sprockets Developement Package? TonyT: First of all... TonyT: Game Sprocket development continues so we have no TonyT: immediate need to replace Game Sprockets. As far TonyT: as high performance bit mapped graphics for the TonyT: yellow box in Rhapsody, there currently exists an API TonyT: called Interceptor which allows for direct access to TonyT: the frame buffer for high performance drawing which, TonyT: for example, is how ID delivered Quake for OpenStep For full interview, check out.. http://www.devworld.apple.com:80/mkt/WWDC/chat_424transcript.html Pradeep maharaj@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with Triton II, S3, and NS 3.3? Date: 26 Apr 1997 23:01:47 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5ju1gr$4f9e@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5jmi5o$4uuq@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5jq6um$b6l$1@news.tudelft.nl> <5jqpgk$9hl@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: theory1.physics.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Bastian Schlueter wrote: > > Or just live with "verbose" boot/shutdown. > > ciao > Bastian (with Triton II, S3 and NS3.3) > > -- The verbose boot is generally necessary with the Triton I and S3 and NS3.3 as well, but I found that disabling one of the PCI options in BIOS on my Tyan S-1468 board (PCI bursting, I think it was) made it possible to have a graphical boot. It did have a small performance penalty, though smaller than the penalty of not having half the RAM cached! Perhaps there's some option in BIOS for the Triton II boards that will allow for a graphical shutdown. (I don't mind the verbose boot. In fact, I prefer it so that I can see if the DSP was found, etc!) -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with Triton II, S3, and NS 3.3? Date: 26 Apr 1997 23:01:49 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5ju1gt$4f9e@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5jmi5o$4uuq@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5jq6um$b6l$1@news.tudelft.nl> <5jqpgk$9hl@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: theory1.physics.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Anyone have any trouble (or success) with the SiS 5571 Pentium chipset, the Triton 430VX or Triton 430TX chipsets? How about the VIA Apollo VP-2 chipsets? -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!news.wwa.com!gail.ripco.com!news.tds.net!news From: Mark Purdy Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 2 Million E-Mail Addresses $35.95 Date: 26 Apr 1997 23:03:44 GMT Organization: ComPurdy MicroSystems Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5ju1kg$nq8@news2.tds.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kntn10-a16.conc.tds.net ###################################################################### This message is create by Dynamic mail - a most powerful online marketing tool will explode your business on the internet. For more information please visit our web site at : http://www.australia.net.au/~apexpi/dynamail.htm ###################################################################### 2 Million E-Mail Addresses $35.95 Payment by: Visa, MasterCard, American Express http://www.tds.net/compurdy/2_million #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: black next won't recognize external drive Date: 26 Apr 1997 23:36:03 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 47 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ju3h3$mcj$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5jpf1a$oau@news.dmv.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: dave@dmv.com In <5jpf1a$oau@news.dmv.com> J. David Purnell wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently gotten hold of a couple of slabs, a NeXTstation turbo and a > NeXTstation turbo color. > > I have a fujitsu model M2694ESA 1 gig external drive. The turbo station > is running 3.0 and the color turbo is running 3.3 > > the turbo recognizes the fujitsu at bootup and it reads just fine in the > workspace. The color turbo has a problem recognizing the drive though. > > As it's booting and looking for devices it displays this: > > sc: Unexpected msg > SCSI unexpected msg:1 > > It will do this forever until the drive is turned off, then it boots fine. > > I've formatted the fujitsu drive with the turbo station but the color > turbo still has problems with it. > > Is this a difference between 3.0 and 3.3? Or between the turbo and the > color turbo? > Hard to say really. Could be a different cabling problem. Or one machine might be more sensitive to whether the drive is configured for asyncronous or syncronous transfers.. I'm not absolutely sure about turbo systems. But if you can jumper the drive for asyncronous transfers (if it's a boot drive) then do so. Beyond that check cables and that connectors are seated properly. Termination might be an issue also.. You could also try it in an external case w/ termination.. All I know is that whenever I've seen that message it was either SCSI bus, whether the drive was set for asyncronous transfers or not, or termination.. Beyond that possibly a flaky drive (but it would likely be flaky on both machines) Randy rencsok (at) channelu (dot) com #################################################################### Date: 27 Apr 1997 00:43:15 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-by: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: Mark Purdy Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ju1kg$nq8@news2.tds.net> Control: cancel <5ju1kg$nq8@news2.tds.net> X-No-Archive: Yes X-Spam-Type: DYNAMAIL Lines: 4 DYNAMAIL spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: 2 Million E-Mail Addresses $35.95 Total spams this type to date: 1660 Total this spam type for this user to date: 1135 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <26385861508830@digifix.com> Date: 27 Apr 1997 03:59:44 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <25195862113623@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:65646 comp.sys.next.announce:4162 comp.sys.next.hardware:28538 comp.sys.next.software:29269 comp.sys.next.misc:25723 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26508 comp.sys.next.bugs:4282 comp.sys.next.programmer:24206 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ix.netcom.com!clintdw From: Clinton Wong Subject: MegaPixel on PC? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3362A082.3E0F@netcom.com> Sender: clintdw@netcom13.netcom.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:40:34 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Lines: 9 I see from the NeXT FAQ that there's a way to connect a VGA monitor to a (black) NeXT, but is there any way to get the MegaPixel display to work on a PC? I've heard that there are special video cards that do this... called gemini or virage. I went through the search engines but couldn't find anything relevant. Any ideas? Clinton #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to install NS 3.3 on 030 box with no floopy Date: 26 Apr 1997 23:01:55 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5juq4j$677@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, I have a 68030 cube and the user CD-ROMS for NEXTSTEP 3.3 and want to upgrade the operating system from NeXTSTEP 2.0. The cube has an Optical Drive but no floopy drive. Is there a way to install NS on that machine without getting an external floppy drive? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!171.69.2.138!usenet.cisco.com!not-for-mail From: Scott Mewett Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Are Turbo board serial ports different.??? Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:18:53 -0800 Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3362FDDD.3348@cisco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sl-chattel-03.cisco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Hello All. I seem to be having some problems with my NeXT Turbo's Serial Ports. I just got a Turbo Cube and plugged in my modem to it, but the modem doesn't seem to work. Up till now I have been using this modem and cable on my Color slab without a problem. Is there something that is different with the Turbo motherboards compared to the non-turbo ones. I am able to use cua to talk to the modem on the turbo, but cufa does not work. It actually hangs the serial port and I can only get the serial port back by rebooting. However cufa does work without a problem on my other system. This causes a problem since most modems use hardware flow control. Especially the ones that i use to dial into work. Any help or insight into this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott mewett@cisco.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to use Sony NeXT CD-ROM for music on MO (or just how to play music) References: <5jcgoe$1m5@slip.net> From: ANTI-SPAM! X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) NNTP-Posting-Host: yvr-ppp-28.cyberstore.ca Message-ID: <336309ca.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 27 Apr 97 08:09:46 GMT Lines: 25 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!199.86.32.9!skypoint.com!scipio.cyberstore.ca!yvr-ppp-28.cyberstore.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26510 comp.sys.next.hardware:28542 emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: >I purchased an original Sony CD-ROM (CDU-541 Rev 2.6a) >for my 040/25 cube on c.s.n.m. For installing software >it works great. But when I insert a music CD and plug >a set of speakers into the sound jack, or a set of >headphones, no sound comes out. > >Is there something I need to do play music on this >CD-ROM and to have the music come out of the sound jack? > >Do I need run a particular app to listen to music from >a CD-ROM? As I recall, just plug the headphones into the front jack and turn up the volumn control to the right of the jack and set the volumn on the cd-player app up. Is the cd player app incrementing the time indicating the music is actually being played. If not try a different CD or may sure the proper files are installed in the /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs directory. Darren Reely P.S. Return e-mail address should now be useless thanks to those damp spammers. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!ix.netcom.com!news From: Me Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: COME SEE THE HOTTEST SITES ON THE WEB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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Total spams this type to date: 1905 Total this spam type for this user to date: 1736 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!supernews.com!news From: orestes@comland.com (William D. Leara) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black vs. White HW Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 15:37:08 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <33657263.920786@news.comland.com> Reply-To: orestes@comland.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp46.comland.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 Forgive my ignorance, but what does it mean to have "black" hardware vs. "white" hardware? Will orestes@comland.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Christian Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black vs. White HW Date: 27 Apr 1997 16:54:30 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bc532b$c2cac8e0$cccb92cf@default> References: <33657263.920786@news.comland.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.203.204 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Black= Original NeXT hardware. White= Intel-based hardware. William D. Leara wrote in article <33657263.920786@news.comland.com>... > Forgive my ignorance, but what does it mean to have "black" hardware > vs. "white" hardware? > > Will > orestes@comland.com > #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT hardware support? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 17:26:15 GMT Lines: 18 In article dwagley@netcom.com (Doug Wagley) writes: > Is anyone still providing maintenance for NeXT hardware? I have > an unhappy NeXT laser printer that has developed a high pitched > whine and waits a very long time before feeding the sheet. It > then just prints a thin horizontal smear across the paper. I'm > in the metro Denver area. If anybody knows who could provide > service please let me know. > Service is provided through BellAtlantic. They're rather expensive, though. NeXTlasers can be serviced from the PrinterWorks. Address should be found in either the FAQ or Usenet archive on Peanuts. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 M2694ES on a slab and a M2694S on a turbo color and both work fine. Unfortunately, Fujitsu changed controller assemblies rather frequently and both of my drives do use differnt mechanisms to achieve proper configuration. I fear you need a good (and willing) OEM to supply the correct data sheet to check for proper setup. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: ISDN Help Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <335E874F.FA1@inext.net> Distribution: inet Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 17:18:18 GMT Lines: 38 In article <335E874F.FA1@inext.net> Johnny Waters - Staff writes: > I have an ADB NeXT Turbo Color Slab (From DeepSpace Tech. in Frederick > Md, plug plug) and I am curious about the feasability of ISDN. > > Here are my questions that do not seem to be addressed in any FAQ that I > have seen. > > 1) What is the Max baudRate of the serial ports on the NeXT Turbo Color > (ADB)? That depends on the software you will use. NEXTSTEP BSD utilities only support 'extb' speed which is wired to 38.4k. The link libs that came with NS 3.3 Dev also support higher speeds, so if you can get 'kermit' or some other package linked with'em, higher speeds can be set. I doubt they will be sustainable, though. 38.4 might be sustainable in most cases on Turbo machines, 57.6k might be achievable on a lightly loaded Turbo, but I won't guaranty for this. I successfully run 38.4k on a lightly loaded 25MHz slab. > 2) Has anyone successfully used a NeXT with a normal (non DSP port) TA? Should be possible. > 3) Any known problems with BitSurfer pros? (other than known BSP bugs > and assumign that 2's answer is "yes")... > Depending on what you want to do with your ISDN access there might be a better choice. Most people here in Germany want ISDN for better, faster Internet access. In this case a ISDN router is prime choice. Either a commercial device or a self made PC/AT with cheap ISDN adapter, Eternet adapter, and ka9q software will do. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB mouse fix Date: 27 Apr 1997 20:22:04 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 25 Message-ID: <19970427202100.QAA29937@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Last week, I noticed that the little teflon pad on the back of my NeXT ADB mouse was starting to peel off. I tried several common glues, but none seemed to stick to the teflon (big surprise there, it's used on no-stick pans for a reason!). Finally, I scrounged around in my toolroom for a little while and found a few tubes of epoxy resin. I mixed up a little batch, put it on the mouse, let it dry overnight, and bingo, the teflon stayed down. I'm posting this to help others who may have this problem. A few words of advice: DO NOT try Krazy Glue. It doesn't get along too well with teflon. Also, epoxy is far stronger. If you have never used epoxy before, practice on something you don't care about before putting it on your mouse. I can be a real bitch to work with, and you don't want to end up ruining your mouse. Hope this is of some use. I take no responsibility if you end up doing something really bad with these directions. Don't come crying to me if you end up gluing your hands together :) Joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ISDN Help Date: 27 Apr 1997 21:42:09 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 15 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5k0h7h$h88$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <335E874F.FA1@inext.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Why don't you consider the Ascend hubs.. have a 50 and it is plug and play.. because it is via the ethernet. godwin : 1) What is the Max baudRate of the serial ports on the NeXT Turbo Color : (ADB)? : 2) Has anyone successfully used a NeXT with a normal (non DSP port) TA? : 3) Any known problems with BitSurfer pros? (other than known BSP bugs : and assumign that 2's answer is "yes")... : thank you in advance : Johnny Waters, waters@inext.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!newsgate.ptd.net!news.ptd.net!litterbox.org!hamors From: hamors@litterbox.org (Sean B. Hamor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: QuickCam on Black Turbo NeXTstation Date: 27 Apr 1997 21:56:35 GMT Organization: The Litterbox Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5k0i2j$5ce$1@news.ptd.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: litterbox.org NNTP-Posting-User: hamors X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Greetings, I'm interested in hooking up a Connectix B&W QuickCam to my Black Turbo NeXTstation. I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with this and if drivers are available. I've been digging through DejaNews and Alta Vista for old posts/pages regarding this subject, and have come up short. I know that the pinouts will be different even though the same connector is used, so an adapter cable of some sort will have to be fabricated. All I'm looking for is a source for drivers. Thanks for your time. =) /\_/\ http://www.litterbox.org/~hamors/pgp.txt To err is human. ( o.o ) for PGP public key block To purr feline. > ^ < Sean B. Hamor - Robert Byrne The Litterbox: http://www.litterbox.org/ Homeless and Abused Pet Rescue -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Even the litter is encrypted... iQEVAwUBM2PLnDU6HlxZIJ+FAQFpKAf9F1OzWtQ5K7Elfwznb6wwG/J9V4Fa5f/y f3VfwEDTcm6fvODuFL+Babf0qO+LfDyMdlqDbNVpJY36i1NPQhCZ3glhaqKURHI8 gp8zoXSAtb7EDKzbhqBQZ0XN34n6X2iKrWFvQyAzoY4EofMfSLoJDwP4HgFScdzE WIPtxvtTSECsDNihNUUq2VOoy70Z13bADc3MO3W2XCahB7k8mvz869/Fny0DMZcH 8X4FUQKM2LneetPk4y+2HFFNGrHKWsd5WxzYcJs7lVQQbHnUIMPIhIW2HloprtAS rKpiW6r23SDyLlcR3JS3zrmSt+/eM7TeCxXiRhtgy4jd8ClDoWe9Zw== =XAs/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Machine hangs upon typing bfd or bsd in ROM monitor on black Date: 27 Apr 1997 16:13:32 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5k0mis$f30@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28552 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26513 Hi, I'm trying to re-install NS 3.3 user on an 040/25. After putting the CD in the external CD-ROM and putting the startup diskette into the internal floppy drive and typing bfd in the (ROM Monitor v5 2.66 ) the machine hangs. The machine also hangs if I type bsd. (Once bsd(0,0,0) worked but now that doesn't work either) However, if I don't hold down the command key and just let the machine boot with out interupting it, it starts up logged in as "me" and fails to prompt for a user login or password. Ah, I just upgraded the machine from 28 to 40 MGs of RAM. I also added a second hard drive. Originally I installed the new hard drive with a SCSI target value of 2 (the original disk had a SCSI traget value of 1). I used build disk to format the new disk and copied the NS OS onto it. Then I opened the box and switched SCSI target values. (I left the cabeling and termination sequence the same) So the new larger disk has a SCSI target of 1 and the old disk has a target of 2. Can anyone offer some suggestions? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Emmett San Francisco #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Brian Dod Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: Laserwriter II NT Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:56:44 -0700 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 4 Message-ID: <336411EC.384F@earthlink.net> Reply-To: bwdod@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: max2-mv-ca-61.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) 14 apple laserwriters II nt excellent condition $175. each obo bwdod@earthlink.net Brian (714) 643-5655 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MIDI / NS Black Date: 14 Apr 1997 22:54:42 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5iucji$6fj@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <01bc4880$fda2a600$505894ce@cessna> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: daves@en.com In <01bc4880$fda2a600$505894ce@cessna> "David S. Strubbe" wrote: > Anybody out there doing MIDI work with black hardware? Special interface? > What sort of software? > > Any info appreciated - thanks IA > > Dave Strubbe > daves@en.com > > > a few of us ;-) interfaces include some MAC ones, trial and error may be best method or check FAQ for leads. just be sure you get the good NeXT serial cable. check out the Studio 3 app for opcode studio 3; there's also a NeXTMusic web site, and email group with info. The was once a company in Canada (Vancouver?) called Quest, Inc. (but not THAT Quest...) that made specific NeXT midi interfaces, a MidiLink and, I think Midi Link Plus (2 in and 1 out, with merge, I think). This was circa 1992. I had both of them, but had better luck with the simpler MidiLink (sans merge: 1 in, 2 out). appwise, see Musickit folks for Sequence.app, previously known as Presto, Calliope does midi, and much more, and various older, simpler sequncers and/or players. check ftp sites and music resources. -rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does Parallel Zip Drive Work? Date: 16 Apr 1997 15:28:38 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19970416152800.LAA07354@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5j1dtp$ksb@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com The SCSI version works perfectly--I've got a link to the Radical Solutions Guide on this, as well as directory tiffs on my web page, http://members.aol.com/willadams Just choose the Tools | hardware links to find them. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!news.enteract.com!news.inetnebr.com!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: S3Virge black screen problem Date: 15 Apr 1997 13:58:04 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5j01hc$1ac@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5iva80$kcv@client2.news.psi.net> Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.93.48.249 In article <5iva80$kcv@client2.news.psi.net> kris@primordialsoft.com > Does anyone know if the source code for the beta S3Virge driver is > available anywhere? I'd be willing to try to fix it with the help of > some volunteers testers. I believe this is the well known Intel Triton vs S3 Video Bug you're experiencing. Unfixable, unfortanately (according to NeXT), except for upgrading to OS4.0 or later. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.rediris.es!news.iac.es!news From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Help Getting SB16 PnP to work. Date: 18 Apr 1997 14:53:19 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5j81sv$t90@sinfo.ll.iac.es> References: <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> Reply-To: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.icia.rcanaria.es X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: cybobob@mindspring.com In <3351d069.10177088@news.mindspring.com> Mr. Kawasaki wrote: > I put in all the correct settings, directly from the manual for the > sound card. Also, I've had success in Linux using the exact settings > from the book, so I know that's not the problem. I heard someting from > someone a while back that said you need to change someting in the > Expert settings for it to work with PnP. > I also bought a SB16 PnP recently to install on my OS4.1. After trying every posible combination I gave up. I called up NeXT and told me I should download the newer driver from NeXTAnswers and did so. I still would not work. I then found a friend who had an NT system with the older SB16 (the old model with jumpers and all), I swap it with him, installed it right away and everything works OK!. I recommend you try this with your dealer or a friend. > > Later, > Nick > > E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dr. Rafael Munoz-Carpena, Researcher, Soil & Water Department | | INSTITUTO CANARIO DE INVESTIGACIONES AGRARIAS - ICIA | | Apdo. 60 - Laguna, 38200 Tenerife (Spain) | |Tno:+34-22-476343;Fax:+34-22-476303;e-mail:carpena@icia.rcanaria.es| +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!netnews.upenn.edu!news From: larsen@math.upenn.edu (Michael Larsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT Date: 20 Apr 1997 02:27:51 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5jbuv7$f68@netnews.upenn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts5-19.upenn.edu I also just bought a Jaz drive for my NeXT cube. The three cartridges I bought came pre-formatted for mac, but I reformatted them for NeXT. I did this by choosing the initialization command from the workspace (System 3.2). When the newfs command executed by the workspace failed, I typed "newfs /dev/rsd3a Jaz" from the command line, where "Jaz" is the name of the disktab entry I copied from the NextAnswers. (The default command "newfs /dev/rsd3a" executed by the standard initialization script uses the wrong disk geometry parameters.) Results: one of the three disks generated so many bad media errors that it was unusable. An attempt to sdform it failed, thanks to more media errors. A second disk generates bad media errors fairly frequently: perhaps half a dozen per 100MB of data transferred. The third generated only a single bad media error in a 700MB transfer but also crashed the workspace once during the transfer. This doesn't seem like acceptable performance to me. Did I do something wrong? Should I be using a different disktab, for instance? Different cartridges? A different drive? MacConnection is willing to replace any or all of the components but cannot advise on non-Mac, non-PC systems. -Michael Larsen #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: How to install NS 3.3 on 030 box with no floopy Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 15:44:29 GMT References: <5juq4j$677@slip.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 30 In article <5juq4j$677@slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: >Hi, > >I have a 68030 cube and the user CD-ROMS for >NEXTSTEP 3.3 and want to upgrade the operating >system from NeXTSTEP 2.0. The cube has an >Optical Drive but no floopy drive. > >Is there a way to install NS on that machine >without getting an external floppy drive? > Yes, there is. You need the boot.cdrom file written on bootable media. You can likely do something like this, assuming you can mount the 3.3 CD under 2.0 (it's been a *long* time since I've used 2.0...) Have a sacrificial optical disk handy (maybe this won't trash it--I'm not sure). Mount the CD and say, as root, # disk -B /NEXTSTEP_3.3/usr/standalone/boot.cdrom /dev/od0a and insert the OD when prompted. The pathname may not be correct--check to make sure. But boot.cdrom is definately what you want. Then, halt the machine, stick in the CD, stick in the OD, and say "bod" from the ROM monitor. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!itnews.sc.intel.com!news.fm.intel.com!ornews.intel.com!news.jf.intel.com!sneal From: sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M. Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 28 Apr 1997 23:37:47 GMT Organization: Intel Development Labs, INTeL Corporation Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dtthp173.jf.intel.com I've seen many posts regarding 60 vs. 70ns RAM in turbo NeXT hardware, but never a clean resolution... A few people have stated that the ROM monitor recognizes 60ns RAM on power-up, but is the hardware utilizing it at 60ns, 70ns, or 100ns? Just looking to up the RAM in my Turbo ADB Dimension Cube soon... Scott sneal@ichips.intel.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 29 Apr 1997 07:34:35 GMT Organization: cdb graphics Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5k48ab$saj@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> Reply-To: cdb@precipice.com (christopher borden) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port5.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: sneal@ichips.intel.com In <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> Scott M. Neal wrote: > I've seen many posts regarding 60 vs. 70ns RAM in > turbo NeXT hardware, but never a clean resolution... > > A few people have stated that the ROM monitor recognizes > 60ns RAM on power-up, but is the hardware utilizing it at 60ns, > 70ns, or 100ns? > > Just looking to up the RAM in my Turbo ADB Dimension Cube > soon... > > Scott > sneal@ichips.intel.com i think i read here once that 60ns gets read as 100ns by nd. so i've been using all 70's for mine, i hope for good reason. . . chris cdb@precipice.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!not-for-mail From: rtam@cs.ubc.ca (Roger Tam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Kensington trackball on black hardware Date: 29 Apr 1997 01:13:34 -0700 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5k4aje$66i@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: cascade.cs.ubc.ca Hi everyone, I am currently using a Logitech bus mouse attached via an adapter I bought from ComputerActive on my non-ADB Turbo. The question is: has anyone successfully used a Kensington Expert Mouse bus trackball with the ComputerActive MouseTail adapter? Thank you for your replies, Roger --------- Roger Tam Department of Computer Science, University of British Columbia #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!night.primate.wisc.edu!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 29 Apr 1997 02:41:11 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5k3n47$7ep@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M. Neal) wrote: > I've seen many posts regarding 60 vs. 70ns RAM in > turbo NeXT hardware, but never a clean resolution... > > A few people have stated that the ROM monitor recognizes > 60ns RAM on power-up, but is the hardware utilizing it at 60ns, > 70ns, or 100ns? > > Just looking to up the RAM in my Turbo ADB Dimension Cube > soon... It apparently depends on the motherboard you have. I know that in my motherboard, 60ns memory is treated as if it's 100ns memory, and the machine certainly seemed like it slowed down. Note that at the time I put the 60ns memory in, I was not aware of this issue, and yet it did seem odd to me that in some ways my machine slowed down when I added more memory to it. Later I replaced those two 60ns SIMMs with two (larger) 70ns SIMMs, and I seemed to get that speed back. Others have said that their motherboard recognized their 60ns SIMMs as actually being 60ns, so I doubt there would be any slowdown on those motherboards. On the other hand, I don't know that having 60ns RAM is *faster* than having 70ns RAM, it's just that it isn't slower. I'd suggest going with 70ns, but that's partially because I know my own NeXTstation slowed down with the 60ns RAM in it. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wetware!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does Parallel Zip Drive Work? Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 06:04:54 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <3354ec12.34266089@news.mindspring.com> <5j1dtp$ksb@news.jump.net> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Matt Seibert In-Reply-To: <5j1dtp$ksb@news.jump.net> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Matt Seibert wrote: > How about the SCSI version of the ZIP? On black hardware, any SCSI1 or SCSI2 device should just work (hard drives need to support asynch transfers. The ZIP drive does work... there are some tidbits you should be aware of... checkout the guide to the ZIP drive at: http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!uuneo.neosoft.com!news.blkbox.COM!news From: dkramer@bifrostworks.com (Daniel L. Kramer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Kensington trackball on black hardware Date: 29 Apr 1997 15:03:16 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5k52jk$lt6@news.blkbox.com> References: <5k4aje$66i@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Reply-To: dkramer@bifrostworks.com NNTP-Posting-Host: loki.bifrostworks.com In article <5k4aje$66i@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> rtam@cs.ubc.ca (Roger Tam) writes: > Hi everyone, > > I am currently using a Logitech bus mouse attached via an > adapter I bought from ComputerActive on my non-ADB Turbo. > The question is: has anyone successfully used a Kensington > Expert Mouse bus trackball with the ComputerActive MouseTail > adapter? > > Thank you for your replies, > > Roger Hi Roger - I don't know a whole lot about the specific issue, but I did sell a Kensington Exp. mouse last week. What they call the 'bus' version is really a serial mouse with a small serial card in the box (!). The connector is a std DB9 male plug, not a normal bus mouse DIN-variant. So, I kind of doubt it will work. However, the PS/2 version might work directly without an adapter. Hope this helps a little - Dan -- Daniel L. Kramer Bifrost Workstations, Inc. 10850 Richmond Ave., Suite 270 Houston, TX 77042 dkramer@bifrostworks.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!univ-angers.fr!univ-rennes1.fr!enst-bretagne.fr!univers.enst-bretagne.fr!leberre From: Claude.LeBerre@enst-bretagne.fr (Claude LE BERRE) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: hardware incomprehensible TRAP message Date: 29 Apr 1997 15:25:18 GMT Organization: ENST de Bretagne - France Lines: 18 Sender: leberre@univers.enst-bretagne.fr (Claude LE BERRE) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5k53su$t3r@alfali.enst-bretagne.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: univers.enst-bretagne.fr Keywords: hardware trap message The message : trap: type 0x410 fcode 5 rw 3 faultadress 0xf04 trap: pc 0x0407b8ec sp 0x3ffe304 sr 0x2304 trap: cpu 0 th 0x10013c00 proc 0x10013580 pid 0 pcb 0x10013e00 appear on a random basis since I tried to install OpenStep 4.1 for Mach on our TurboColor NextStation. Is this a memory problem ?? or something else ?? I'll appreciate any information on the way to diagnose this message. Thanks. -- ======================================================================== Tel.(Int'l +33; F +0)298001259 | Telecopie/Fax(Int'l +33; F +0)298455133 Claude.LeBerre@enst-bretagne.fr http://www.enst-bretagne.fr/ TELECOM Bretagne, Technopole Brest-Iroise, B.P. 832, F-29285 BREST Cedex #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From:  blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation Turbo Date: 29 Apr 1997 16:25:14 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5k57da$qs3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: entropy2.stt.msu.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hallo, would anyone know if it is possible to use 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation Turbo? I know that all the literature talks about 32MB SIMMs being the maximum, but 64MB SIMMS seem to be newer than the sources I read. Thanks. Rudy. blazek@stt.msu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From:  blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz vs. SyJet for CD Mastering Date: 29 Apr 1997 16:39:30 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5k5882$qs3$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: entropy2.stt.msu.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hallo, a friend told me that Jaz drive is useless when it comes to CD mastering due to some (hardware related - i.e. there is, according to my friend, no SCSI command to change the behavior) delays during reading the data from the disk. He wasn't certain what exactly the problem was, but he was sure that people had troubles of this kind with the Jaz. My question is if someone experienced a similar problem, and if someOtherOrTheSameOne could possibly comment on the use of SyJet for CD recording. Thanks. Rudy. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Kensington trackball on black hardware Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 15:25:13 GMT References: <5k4aje$66i@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 20 In article <5k4aje$66i@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>, Roger Tam wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I am currently using a Logitech bus mouse attached via an >adapter I bought from ComputerActive on my non-ADB Turbo. >The question is: has anyone successfully used a Kensington >Expert Mouse bus trackball with the ComputerActive MouseTail >adapter? > If the Kensington gizmo is a real bus mouse type of thing with the same pinout as a "real" bus mouse then I can't see there beeing any problem. The MouseTail is a really simply thing (no offense, Colin!) so it would be hard for things to go amiss. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I put an 040 motherboard into a 030 cube? Date: 29 Apr 1997 10:59:37 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5k5cu9$a1c@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Another way of asking the same question is : are the mother connectors in the 030 cube the same as those for an 040? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!73.bridgeton-057.mo.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Swapping Drives Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 15:04:50 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.134.73 I have two questions: a) Is there a problem with taking the main boot drive from a Turbo Dimension Cube and putting it in a NeXTstation non-turbo mono. Here's the deal, I already did the switch and i want to know if I'm likely to have problems. :-) b) Is there an easy way to copy the developer information from one drive to another. I have 3.2 developer on a HD, but I don't have it on CD. I want it on another drive, but I don't want to build the entier disk. Thanks, Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.pbi.net!news.nothingbutnet.net!news.znet.com!forum.apple.com!news.apple.com!not-for-mail From: Radmilo Bozinovic Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT and Apple OneScanner Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:41:09 -0700 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <336632B5.7B87@suc.org> Reply-To: rasha@suc.org NNTP-Posting-Host: bozira.apple.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi all - is it possible to use a an Apple OneScanner (b/w) with a NeXT? Where can I find these drivers if they exist? Please send any answers also to the above address (rasha@suc.org). Thanks, -Radmilo Bozinovic PS I already posted this question on next.software, and got a single negative answer... lewanto@stan.donet.com >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > >I get numerous, random panics. Typical panic message reads: Memory >access error (1,1,e0284bf4). > >I am using the latest NS3.3 drivers, have isloated to running with >minimum H/W configuration - these make no difference. Have run Norton >Utilities from the Windows95 side, but can find no error in memory or >system. NextStep support forlks have been very helpful in guiding and >suggest that I have a hardware or hardware configuration problem. Here is a simple suggestion that may not be correct, but should be first thing to check because it is easy: Reseat all memory modules! After turning a machine off for a day or two last year, I had exactly the symptoms you describe. I also ran Norton Utilities without finding anything wrong with the memory. However, upon opening the box and pushing down on the SIMMS, it was clear that one could have been in further (I suspect the change in temperature when the machine was off caused the problem). Everything ran fine after that. The moral of this story is: If you want to test hardware, forget about toys like Norton Utilities -- try running a Unix kernel instead! -Magnus --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME, Sun) +1.773.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.773.667-5331 phone (home) +1.773.702-9740 fax #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: cbrooker@aol.com (CBrooker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: Compaq Armada 4130T Penyium 133 $2000 Date: 29 Apr 1997 20:15:53 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 96 Message-ID: <19970429201400.QAA26887@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Pentium 133 Mhz, level 2 cache, 11.8" ctft active color display, 24 megs ram expandable to 48 megs, 1.08 gig hd, Li-ion battery, sound blaster sound. $2000 firm. references available. chris at the Park ave Trading Post 770-643-1135 cbrooker@aol.com here's more specs: Processor 133-MHz Intel Pentium with 256 KB level two write-back cache Architecture 64-bit CPU, cache and memory bus; 32-bit PCI local bus graphics Display/Graphics Armada 4130T: 11.8-inch color TFT with 800 x 600 resolution and 16-bit color (64K colors internal) 32-bit PCI local bus graphics with 1-MB EDO DRAM for video memory. Memory 24 megs Armada 4130 and 4130T: 1.08-GB Hard Drive Multimedia Compaq PremierSound for enhanced sterio audio including integrated 16-bit Sound Blaster Pro-compatible stereo audio, integrated stereo speakers and microphone, software volume control, stereo line in, headphone out, microphone in jacks, software MPEG, NTSC/PAL video output and Zoomed Video (hardware MPEG support); optional Mobile CD Unit provides Quad-Speed CD-ROM Drive, enhanced stereo speakers, MIDI/joy stick port, bay for an additional battery and Wave Table Synthesis PCMCIA Two Type II/One Type III PCMCIA Slot(s); with optional Compaq SpeedPaq 288 Telephony Modem, support for full-duplex speakerphone, telephone answering machine and switched voice/data is provided Infrared Communication Port IrDA-1 compatible Infrared Communication Port for wireless communication with other infrared equipped devices Power/Battery Life External AC Adapter weighing approximately 10 ounces allows simultaneous system operation and battery charge LiIon Handle Battery or LiIon DualBay Battery provide 2.5-3.5 hours of battery life; 7- 10 hours battery life can be achieved when using three LiIon batteries including standard handle battery and an optional Modular Battery in both the DualBay and Mobile CD Unit battery bay Integrated Pointing Device Standard Touchpad is fully interchangeable for optional Optical Trackball; simultaneous support for multiple pointing devices Keyboard 101-key compatible keyboard with isolated, inverted-T cursor control keys, and right control key, four user-programmable keys; special feature hot keys for instant access to power conservation, QuickLock/QuickBlank, toggle between internal, external, or simultaneous displays, speaker volume control and brightness Power Conservation Hibernation, Instant-On via Standby; pop-ups with three presets and one custom level of power conservation Dimensions (HxWxD) Standard Configuration: 1.49 x 11.6 x 10.3 in/3.78 x 29.46 x 26.16 cm Slimline Configuration: 1.49 x 11.4 x 8.8 in/3.78 x 28.96 x 22.35 cm Multimedia Configuration: 2.3 x11.6 x 10.3 x in/5.84 x 29.46 x 26.16 cm Weight Armada 4130T: Standard Configuration: 6.1 lbs/2.77 kg Slimline Configuration: 5.2 lbs/2.36 kg Multimedia Configuration: 8.2 lbs/3.72 kg Software Windows 95, Netscape, ESS Audio Rack, Lode Runner, Take Your Best Shot, Laplink, Just Connect, Compton's 1996 Reference Collection CD (with Mobile CD Unit) Interfaces Infrared (IrDA-1 compliant), enhanced parallel, serial, external SVGA monitor, keyboard/pointing device, AC adapter/automobile adapter, PCMCIA, NTSC/PAL composite TV out, microphone in, headphone out, stereo line-in Security Features Kensington lock support; power-on and set-up passwords; ability to disable serial port, parallel port, PCMCIA slots, diskette drive, diskette drive boot sequence, infrared port Service and Support CompaqCare provides a range of services, including a three-year*, worldwide limited warranty. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hsync of NeXT FIMI? Date: 29 Apr 1997 20:14:19 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5k5kqr$113g@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Anyone know the horizonal sync frequency of the NeXT FIMI monitor? The vertical is 68Hz, but what about the horizontal? Thanks! Please respond via email (I'm going to be of Usenet for a few days). - Gareth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!newshub.tc.umn.edu!newsstand.tc.umn.edu!knelson From: knelson@cs.umn.edu (Kenneth Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: WTB: Modem cable for NeXT Dimension - need advise Date: 29 Apr 1997 19:56:59 GMT Organization: University of Minnesota Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5k5jqb$lld@epx.cis.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deci.cs.umn.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28577 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17384 Greetings, I want to buy modem cables for a NeXT Dimension (25 MHz) running OpenStep 4.0. I've studied NextAnswers, the FAQ, and the section on how to wire a mini-DIM 8 to DB-25 cable for NeXT computer in the sys. admin. manual. I have searched the FTP site, but... How do I _buy_ a modem cable? Who sells them? Or, am I forced to have it custom built to the specs in the sys admin book? Can I buy some other (say, Apple) cable that's wired correctly? Is there another source of information for this problem? This seems like FAQ material. Please advise or sell me your working cable which supports hardware flow control. Thanks for any help! Ken #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!n4tor.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seagate 4Gb Drive now only a 2Gb drive - HELP! Date: 29 Apr 1997 20:52:59 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5k5n3b$k3q$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Major screwup on my part here.. I took my new 4Gb Seagate drive, and using sdformat, low-level formatted it with 1024-byte sectors. I then made a new disktab entry, and ran disk on it to create 3 partitions. So far no problem... I go to install OpenStep 4.x on it, and find that I have to have 512-byte sectors on the boot drive. Again, no problem, I'll just fix it. THINKING that the SCSISelect onboard format on my Adaptec drive will restore the drive to one massive beast with 512-byte sectors, I format it there. BOOM! Now I have a 512-byte sector drive that is just 2Gb (the size of the first partition).. How can I get this drive back to normal? To the factory defaults? Is there some other utility I can use (DOS/NT based is fine) to restore it? Or can I just pull the factory stats on the drive and make a new disktab and just reformat that puppy or what??? Help! Thanks Scott -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation Turbo Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:15:54 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <5k57da$qs3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira In-Reply-To: <5k57da$qs3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Rudy -- there is a ^F and ^B in the from line of your posts... On 29 Apr 1997, it was written: > Hallo, > would anyone know if it is possible to use 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation > Turbo? I know that all the literature talks about 32MB SIMMs being the > maximum, but 64MB SIMMS seem to be newer than the sources I read. > > Thanks. I would doubt it would work... it might overload the motherboard... I've never heard of anyone having success with it, and I've heard the topic come up before, so my guess is that no, it isn't possible. The 64/simms may be newer than the lit, but that doesn't mean they are wrong ;-) TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz vs. SyJet for CD Mastering Followup-To: comp.periphs.scsi Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:22:50 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <5k5882$qs3$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira In-Reply-To: <5k5882$qs3$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Rudy -- there is a ^F and ^B in the From line of your posts Followups set to 'comp.periphs.scsi' On 29 Apr 1997, it was written: > > a friend told me that Jaz drive is useless when it comes to CD mastering due > to some (hardware related - i.e. there is, according to my friend, no SCSI > command to change the behavior) delays during reading the data from the disk. > He wasn't certain what exactly the problem was, but he was sure that people > had troubles of this kind with the Jaz. > My question is if someone experienced a similar problem, and if > someOtherOrTheSameOne could possibly comment on the use of SyJet for CD > recording. SyJet does have a way to turn off some sort of error checking that might be what holds up the Jaz drive. Why not ask 'sales@syquest.com' ? TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation Turbo Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:59:09 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5k57da$qs3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5k57da$qs3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-Apr-97 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstati.. by Rudolf B. Blazek) > would anyone know if it is possible to use 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation > Turbo? I know that all the literature talks about 32MB SIMMs being the > maximum, but 64MB SIMMS seem to be newer than the sources I read. They are newer, and the motherboard won't correctly recognize that memory. I believe that it doesn't attention to the data line on the SIMM for 64 MB, which means it'd probably treat it as a 1 MB SIMM. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.icm.edu.pl!uw.edu.pl!news.nask.pl!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!03-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.tuwien.ac.at!news From: "Rainer Hubovsky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel or AMD Date: 29 Apr 1997 22:42:11 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Lines: 26 Message-ID: <01bc54ee$44a86ed0$0100007f@atlan> NNTP-Posting-Host: e10.dialin.tuwien.ac.at X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Hello! I want to buy a new processor but I'm not sure which one to take. The two alternatives I'm considering are an Intel Pentium 200 MMX and an AMD K6 200. The AMD is cheaper and I was told that it is a little bit faster than the Intel. Are there any know problems with an AMD under NeXtStep ? I would like to develop applications under NeXtStep, so it is rather important that I can rely on the processor. What do you think? Should I spend a little more money, buy an Intel and be on the save side or is it OK to take the AMD? Thanks. -r -- @ Rainer Hubovsky, hubovsky@ci.tuwien.ac.at @ @ Ferdinandstr. 29/15, A-1020 Wien @ Tel: +43 (1) 214 24 48 @ AirPage: +43 (1) 0688-42 24 502 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!31.bridgeton-058.mo.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: WTB: Modem cable for NeXT Dimension - need advise Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 18:59:05 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <5k5jqb$lld@epx.cis.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.135.31 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28583 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17386 > I want to buy modem cables for a NeXT Dimension (25 MHz) running > OpenStep 4.0. I've studied NextAnswers, the FAQ, and the section on > how to wire a mini-DIM 8 to DB-25 cable for NeXT computer in the sys. > admin. manual. I have searched the FTP site, but... > > > How do I _buy_ a modem cable? Who sells them? > Somebody said they are available from Mac Connection, the mailorder house. You should be able to find the number in any Mac magazine or in your mailbox. I don't remember the part number. Actually, it isn't all that hard to roll your own cable. Just get an old imagewriter cable, an RJ45 connector, and one of those 25 pin connector kits with the RJ45 female in one end and the pins not installed in the 25 pin male on the other. Put the pins in the right place, look at the RJ45 and make sure you put the wires in it correctly from right to left, and zippo! you're done. You don't really have to use the RJ45 types, but I GUARANTEE you will mess up the pin outs and you can't get them back out once you push them in, so it is easier to just rearrange the wires on the RJ45 male. :-) Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Christian Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Modem cable for NeXT Dimension - need advise Date: 30 Apr 1997 00:35:34 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 5 Message-ID: <01bc54fe$7eefc380$92ca92cf@default> References: <5k5jqb$lld@epx.cis.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.202.146 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28584 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17388 Check out http://www.deepspacetech.com. They sell NeXT modem cables. > > How do I _buy_ a modem cable? Who sells them? > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 30 Apr 1997 00:45:13 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Lines: 58 Message-ID: <5k64mp$5ke@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k48ab$saj@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: cdb@precipice.com In <5k48ab$saj@news1-alterdial.uu.net> christopher borden wrote: > In <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> Scott M. Neal wrote: > > I've seen many posts regarding 60 vs. 70ns RAM in > > turbo NeXT hardware, but never a clean resolution... > > > > A few people have stated that the ROM monitor recognizes > > 60ns RAM on power-up, but is the hardware utilizing it at 60ns, > > 70ns, or 100ns? > > > > Just looking to up the RAM in my Turbo ADB Dimension Cube > > soon... > > > > Scott > > sneal@ichips.intel.com > > > i think i read here once that 60ns gets read as 100ns by nd. so i've been > using all 70's for mine, i hope for good reason. . . > > chris > cdb@precipice.com > > from the FAQ: NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz): Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 2 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 80 ns5 SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36) Maximum RAM: 32 MB NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300: Number SIMM slots: 4 SIMM group size: 2 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36) Maximum RAM: 128 MB For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns. Faster RAM than 70 ns won't give you a speed increase anymore. In fact it could slow things down again, because some hardware drives 60 ns RAM as 100 ns RAM. -rick #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT and Apple OneScanner Date: 30 Apr 1997 04:22:55 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5k6hev$1sf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <336632B5.7B87@suc.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] well because the answer is a simple negative answer?? the best bet is to go to places like Scan-o-matic and GSCorp... or if you are really good and have the specs .. Frank have a driver for the Mustek.. and I think the code is included.. (www.this.net) Godwin Radmilo Bozinovic (rasha@suc.org) wrote: : Hi all - : is it possible to use a an Apple OneScanner (b/w) with a NeXT? Where : can I find these drivers if they exist? Please send any answers also : to the above address (rasha@suc.org). : Thanks, : -Radmilo Bozinovic : PS I already posted this question on next.software, and got a single : negative answer... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Stephen V. Roller" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Modem cable for NeXT Dimension - need advise Date: 30 Apr 1997 04:39:34 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: <01bc551f$ff251a20$1400000a@home-166> References: <5k5jqb$lld@epx.cis.umn.edu> <01bc54fe$7eefc380$92ca92cf@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.133.185 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28587 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17393 Christian Jensen wrote in article <01bc54fe$7eefc380$92ca92cf@default>... > Check out http://www.deepspacetech.com. They sell NeXT modem cables. > > > > How do I _buy_ a modem cable? Who sells them? > > Hi Christian, Visit: http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution6.html Then call somebody to build it for you. I called Diane at Cables to Go 1-800-826-7904 and asked her to build several for our Puget Sound NeXT Users Group. She charged only $12 per cable! Their web site is http://www.cablestogo.com Steve Roller Puget Sound NeXT Users Group http://www.seattle.net/~nextpsug #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!ubnnews.unisource.ch!newssrv.ita.tip.net!mikasa.iol.it!iolnewsgateway From: mario@gestel.it (Mario Mazzardo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Support for IBM Thinkpad Date: 30 Apr 1997 14:05:47 +0200 Organization: GESTEL Italia srl Lines: 6 Sender: mario@gestel.it (Mario Mazzardo) Message-ID: <5k7cir$9q3@mikasa.iol.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.20.24.3 I have a IBM Thinkpad 760ED and Openstep 4.1, configuring the drive 2522_IBMThinkPad760EDDisplayDriver.pkg.compressed after the boot the screen becames dark. Thank you Mario Mazzardo GESTEL Italia srl mario@gestel.it #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 30 Apr 1997 08:14:12 -0700 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 22 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5k7nk4$fj@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> Reply-To: mpaque@wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: volans59.wco.com In article <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M. Neal) writes: > I've seen many posts regarding 60 vs. 70ns RAM in > turbo NeXT hardware, but never a clean resolution... > > A few people have stated that the ROM monitor recognizes > 60ns RAM on power-up, but is the hardware utilizing it at 60ns, > 70ns, or 100ns? The hardware will run RAM it recognizes as 70 ns or faster at 70 ns, and slower RAM at 100 ns. All installed memory should be 70 ns or faster to get the 70 ns timing. -- Mike Paquette (mpaque@wco.com) Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: Jochen Klinke Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz vs. SyJet for CD Mastering Date: 30 Apr 1997 15:22:11 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5k7o33$dpo$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <5k5882$qs3$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextwave.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: blazek@stt.msu.edu In <5k5882$qs3$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > > Hallo, > a friend told me that Jaz drive is useless when it comes to CD mastering due > to some (hardware related - i.e. there is, according to my friend, no SCSI > command to change the behavior) delays during reading the data from the disk. > He wasn't certain what exactly the problem was, but he was sure that people > had troubles of this kind with the Jaz. > My question is if someone experienced a similar problem, and if > someOtherOrTheSameOne could possibly comment on the use of SyJet for CD > recording. > > Thanks. > > Rudy. > We have been using Jaz drives for CD mastering on a 2x CDR under DOS (using Pscribe mastering software) with hardly any problems. I say hardly any, because bad Jaz media can cause the mastering to fail. I'm not sure if we've tried CD mastering to a 4xCDR, but I could try that and let you know. Regards, jk -- Jochen Klinke PORD 0230 email: Scripps Institution of Oceanography phone: 619-534-8029 La Jolla, CA 92093-0230 fax: 619-534-8509 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!uwm.edu!msunews!clunix.cl.msu.edu!blazek From: Rudolf B Blazek Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 11:54:21 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k7nk4$fj@mpaque.mpaque> NNTP-Posting-Host: clunix.cl.msu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5k7nk4$fj@mpaque.mpaque> On 30 Apr 1997, Mike Paquette wrote: > In article <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott > M. Neal) writes: > > I've seen many posts regarding 60 vs. 70ns RAM in > > turbo NeXT hardware, but never a clean resolution... > > > > A few people have stated that the ROM monitor recognizes > > 60ns RAM on power-up, but is the hardware utilizing it at 60ns, > > 70ns, or 100ns? > > The hardware will run RAM it recognizes as 70 ns or faster at 70 ns, and > slower RAM at 100 ns. All installed memory should be 70 ns or faster to > get the 70 ns timing. > The NeXT answers seem to say that you need exactly 70ns SIMMs (and that is what we did), but when removing the original memory that was put there by NeXT, it was 60ns, if I remember correctly. Someone posted here that mixing 60ns and 70ns SIMMs causes the real problems. That the mixed SIMMs could be recognized as 100ns SIMMs. But if you use 60ns only, you should be fine. Now, the last sentence is actually a question. Could someone confirm what I just wrote? I am going to buy some RAM myself and don't wanna get into troubles. I don't want 70ns SIMMs, but I'd get them if that was the only safe way. Thanks. Rudy blazek@stt.msu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!uninett.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!itnews.sc.intel.com!news.fm.intel.com!ornews.intel.com!news.jf.intel.com!sneal From: sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M. Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 30 Apr 1997 15:18:13 GMT Organization: Intel Development Labs, INTeL Corporation Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5k7nrm$93p$1@news.jf.intel.com> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k48ab$saj@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5k64mp$5ke@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dtthp173.jf.intel.com In article <5k64mp$5ke@news1-alterdial.uu.net>, Rick Sanford wrote: >from the FAQ: > > For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns > will be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to > 100 ns. Faster RAM than 70 ns won't give you a speed increase anymore. > In fact it could slow things down again, because some hardware drives > 60 ns RAM as 100 ns RAM. > >-rick Yeah, but I've received a few emailed replies from people with late model Turbo boards (mono/color station and cube) that report that the HW *does* correctly recognize 60ns SIMMs, and doesn't slow down to 100ns. I've also received replies from people with earlier turbo boards who say that 60ns SIMMs are not recognized. I'm assuming that since I have a ADB Turbo Cube board (just about the last NeXT cube board made), that I could get 60ns SIMMs and be off-and-running... Now to decide between parity vs. non- parity! Scott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail From: kykim@access2.digex.net (Kevin Yungsun Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ESS1x88 Audio Driver problems Date: 30 Apr 1997 13:00:34 -0400 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5k7tri$6on@access2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: access2.digex.net Summary: sound works a few times, then stops Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26550 comp.sys.next.hardware:28595 Hi all, I'm using the ESS 1x88 driver on my Toshiba Portege 610CT (which has an ESS688 chip built-in) running NS 3.3. Sounds will play a few times, then stop. It then won't play any sounds until I power off and restart the machine. A restart won't fix it. I hate to have to power off my machine all the time to get sounds working. And I would really like to be able to play sounds. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, -kevin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!171.69.2.138!usenet.cisco.com!not-for-mail From: Scott Mewett Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help!! Is my dimension broken. Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 10:03:41 -0700 Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: <33677B6D.7092@cisco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-e-36-83.cisco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-CISCOENG (WinNT; I) Please help. I get the following message when I boot up my cube with my Dimension board. Has the board died on me. This messages is being displayed on my color monitor that is hookedup to my dimension board. So the board must be working at least partially. The system goes through the normal boot sequence and gives this message just before it is supposed to switch to the logon screen. NeXTdimension Board in Slot 2: ROM Version 43, Memory Controller step 1, i860 C.1 16 mbytes of DRAM installed, NTSC Video configured callout_dispatch(289875328, 0x4067e7c, 290308096) panic: (Cpu 0) callout_dispatch NeXT ROM Monitor 3.3 v74 panic: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994; root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M 68k panic> Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott mewett@cisco.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.117.26.202!news.leonardo.net!usenet From: hketola@sms-usa.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 10:12:15 -0700 Organization: Santa Monica Software, Inc. Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <5jbuv7$f68@netnews.upenn.edu> Reply-To: hketola@sms-usa.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.140.225.2 X-Newsreader: Anawave Gravity v1.10.575 Another possibility is this: Wall Street Journal reported a couple of days ago (on about 4/28/97) that "Iomega Corp. Jaz Storage Disk bought after March 24 recalled". In short, 75,000 Jaz disks are recelled because they contain an unreliable component that can damage data stored on disk. This may also explain why my new Jaz disks are behaving really erratically.... heikki ketola In article <5jbuv7$f68@netnews.upenn.edu>, larsen@math.upenn.edu says... > > I also just bought a Jaz drive for my NeXT cube. The three cartridges > I bought came pre-formatted for mac, but I reformatted them for NeXT. > I did this by choosing the initialization command from the workspace > (System 3.2). When the newfs command executed by the workspace failed, > I typed "newfs /dev/rsd3a Jaz" from the command line, where > "Jaz" is the name of the disktab entry I copied from the NextAnswers. > (The default command "newfs /dev/rsd3a" executed by the standard > initialization script uses the wrong disk geometry parameters.) > > Results: one of the three disks generated so many bad media errors > that it was unusable. An attempt to sdform it failed, thanks to > more media errors. A second disk generates bad media errors fairly > frequently: perhaps half a dozen per 100MB of data transferred. > The third generated only a single bad media error in a 700MB transfer > but also crashed the workspace once during the transfer. > > This doesn't seem like acceptable performance to me. Did I do something > wrong? Should I be using a different disktab, for instance? > Different cartridges? A different drive? MacConnection is willing > to replace any or all of the components but cannot advise on > non-Mac, non-PC systems. > > -Michael Larsen > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Get one two headed system from 030 and 040 cubes ? Date: 30 Apr 1997 19:39:39 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5k875r$21je@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5k7rrt$3ne@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: >I have both an 030/25 and an 040/25 cube and NS 3.3. >If I rip the motherboard out of the 030 and stick it >into the 040 can I get a two headed system allowing >the mouse to move windows from one monitor to another, No. To do anything you'll have to hack the backplane. Even then you wont have what you describe. >or will the monitors mirror each other? Nope. You'll have two separate Workspaces for two separate computers. All it really is are two computers running off the same power supply. Thats the extent of the integration. Sam Goldberger used to do dual-headed hacks for a price and included a utility that allowed you to display both Workspaces from a single monitor with two docks, probably via NXHosting or the like. However this only ran under NS2.1 and wasn't ported to 3.x. >If this can work, will NS take care of the set up on >boot and assign default ip addresses or do I have to >define some host names for the systems to communicate >before getting this to work? Is there a particular >way that one invokes the two headed behavior, say >to wake up the second monitor? Check the FAQ. It tells you what's involved in setting up a dual motherboard cube. Basically you'll boot the second 030 board over ethernet off the 040. If you want a real integrated dual-headed system buy a NeXTdimension board. Quite nifty! - Gareth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!HSNX.wco.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help!! Is my dimension broken. Date: 30 Apr 1997 13:23:06 -0700 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 62 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5k89na$1an@mpaque.mpaque> References: <33677B6D.7092@cisco.com> Reply-To: mpaque@wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: volans67.wco.com In article <33677B6D.7092@cisco.com> Scott Mewett writes: > Please help. I get the following message when I boot up my cube with my > Dimension board. Has the board died on me. > NeXTdimension Board in Slot 2: > ROM Version 43, Memory Controller step 1, i860 C.1 > 16 mbytes of DRAM installed, NTSC Video configured > callout_dispatch(289875328, 0x4067e7c, 290308096) > panic: (Cpu 0) callout_dispatch > NeXT ROM Monitor 3.3 v74 > panic: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994; > root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M > 68k > > panic> This looks like an incompatability between the Mach device driver used to support the ND and the kernel. One way this problem has occured in the past is when someone installed the ND package from the floppy that shipped with the ND boards onto a NEXTSTEP 2.2 or later system. (The floppy was a driver intended for use with NEXTSTEP 2.1). To recover from this, or a corrupted driver, you can replace the corrupted NeXTdimension.psdrvr directory contents from your 3.3 CD-ROM. Try the following: * Boot the machine single user. During the boot process, immediately after the Testing System message is replaced by the Loading from disk message, hold down the Command bar and press the ~ key (without pressing Shift). On keyboards with two Command keys, hold down the right Command key and press the ~ key. This displays the ROM monitor window containing the prompt NeXT>. Start up the computer in single user mode by entering the command bsd -s * Once booted, you'll need to rename the NeXTDimension driver to keep it from being loaded. Mount the root filesystem read/write mount -o 'remount,rw' /dev/sd0a / Rename the driver directory: mv /usr/lib/NextStep/Displays/NeXTdimension.psdrvr /usr/lib/NextStep/Displays/NeXTdimension.broken * Mount your NEXTSTEP 3.3 CDROM and copy a fresh version over Mount the CDROM mount /dev/sd1a /CD Copy over the driver cp -r /CD//usr/lib/NextStep/Displays/NeXTdimension.psdrvr /usr/lib/NextStep/Displays/NeXTdimension.psdrvr * Halt and reboot the system -- Mike Paquette (mpaque@wco.com) Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!n4tor.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Continuing Harddrive Problems --- Date: 30 Apr 1997 21:37:58 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5k8e3m$keu$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Hello again.. I'm still having problems with my new 4.2 Gb Drive, (now a 2Gb drive).. To Recap I reformatted my new Seagate 4.2Gb Wide drive with 1024-byte sectors (no problem so far) and then tried to install OS 4.1 on it... It requires a 512-byte sector boot device. OK, no problem, I figure I can just reformat the drive using the Adaptec built in formatter. Bzzt. I now have a 2Gb drive.. :-( It looks like it ignores the change in size of the blocks and doesn't adjust the total available blocks. I've tried reformatting the drive with sdformat -b512, but no change.. The /usr/etc/scsimodes now reads... SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a Drive type: SEAGATE ST34371W 0484JD 512 bytes per sector 165 sectors per track 10 tracks per cylinder 5172 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 62 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 4457715 usable sectors on volume This is a little different than the numbers that I recall on the original 512-byte drive.. (184 for the sectors per track).. I don't suppose anyone has a new SEAGATE ST34371W with 512 sectors that they could SCSIMODEs for me do they? Also, once I determine the corrected values, how do I write them back to the drive? -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IDE drive on Canon object.station Date: 30 Apr 1997 22:50:06 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 44 Message-ID: <5k8iau$t0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5k7rua$lsu@gold.tc.umn.edu> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port12.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(i) Cc: shan0029@gold.tc.umn.edu In <5k7rua$lsu@gold.tc.umn.edu> Sharad J Shanbhag wrote: > Is anyone using IDE drives on a Canon object.station 41? > Does the BIOS allow the use of drives larger than 500 MB? > > Why do I want to do this? The original quantum 500 MB > drive is ailing and I'd like to replace it. > I can get a 2.5 GB EIDE drive for the price of a > 1 GB SCSI drive. > > Many thanks, > Sharad > > ================================================================ > Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9215 > Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201 > Department of Neurosurgery shanbhag@neuro.med.umn.edu > University of Minnesota (NeXT & MIME) sharad@next1.neuro.umn.edu > > the Canon object.station 31 was a 41 with a IDE istead of a SCSi wasn't it? I don't know that they changed anything else, I imagine (guess) it stil had the SCSI support on the motherboard? Anyway I haven't used an IDE drive on mine, so don't know the answer. I consider myself fortunate, apparently, that Ihave not (yet) had the problems others seem to have with my '41. I am however glad that: a) I have a backup b) drives are cheaper now than in 1995 when I bought it long range, I still hope I can squeeze a motorola PPC motherboard in there somehow. intel, aside!! -- Rick Sanford Dental Records[R] dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.seanet.com!news From: sroller@txpsmc.seanet.com (Steve Roller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help regarding Modem Cable for a 040 Cube Date: 1 May 1997 00:15:33 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5k8nb5$fb@q.seanet.com> References: <01bc4da8$d497e4a0$115a68ce@jspears.onramp.net> Reply-To: sroller@roller.seanet.com (Stephen V. Roller) NNTP-Posting-Host: txpsmc.seanet.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.11 Beta(n) Cc: jspears@weston.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17403 comp.sys.next.misc:25741 comp.sys.next.hardware:28603 In <01bc4da8$d497e4a0$115a68ce@jspears.onramp.net> "Wes Spears" wrote: > If you have one or know where I can pick one up, please let me know. Hi Wes, Visit: http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution6.html Then call somebody to build it for you. I called Diane at Cables to Go 1-800-826-7904 and asked her to build several for our Puget Sound NeXT Users Group. She charged only $12 per cable! Their web site is http://www.cablestogo.com Steve Roller ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stephen V. Roller Stop by and visit at: Puget Sound NeXT Users Group http://www.seattle.net/~nextpsug/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Martin Lightheart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB Replacement Mouse. Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 21:23:23 -0400 Organization: LEI, Corp. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3367F08B.55DE@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kbs2o.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 1 May 1997 01:23:07 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) My Color TurboNeXT Station has adb connectors for the mouse and keyboard. My mouse was rudely taken apart by one of my kids and the ball retainer is missing. I need to get a replacement mouse or trackball to install some software I am expecting tomorrow. No telling where that piece is. Since it is adb, can I get a Apple replacement for my box? And also does apple keyboards work with an adb NeXT? I am curious on this one. I don't have any friends with a Mac to borrow a rodent from (if the apple mouse would do the job). I will have to get a replacement NeXT mouse though. Martin #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!bcc.ac.uk!drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk!hammond_g From: hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Sender: news@ucl.ac.uk (Usenet News System) Message-ID: <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:25:44 GMT Reply-To: hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> Organization: UCL Dept Mech Eng X-Newsreader: mxrn 6.18-9 Lines: 20 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10854 comp.sys.next.hardware:28606 comp.sys.next.programmer:24251 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66542 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22178 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11662 In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox writes: |> What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece |>of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to |>make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs |>the support of developers to make office tools, |>games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware |>and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of |>it, Apple will go nowhere. Interestingly, Apple are dumping GameSprockets and going for a corporate image when they really should be competing with MS's w95 gaming strategy. -- /** Java G * Virtual Reality ROV Docking Planner * http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~zcemm23 * You broke the light, and now... it's dark. */ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.ttu.edu!usenet From: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound card help Date: 1 May 1997 01:59:28 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5k8te0$hph@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Reply-To: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: thermal.me.ttu.edu I have purchased a P200 Pro that has a Soundblaster Vibra 16 PnP sound card. I am running NS 3.3 and can't get the card to be recognized while booting NS. The plug-n-play recognizes the card before giving the NS boot option. Does anyone know if this card is supported with the drivers listed on NextAnswers? This card (Vibra) is a card made by creative labs for oems, but it is not a card they sell to the public. Any help is greatly appreciated. -- Darryl ________________________________________________________ Darryl L. James darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu Mechanical Engineering NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail Texas Tech University http://www.osci.ttu.edu/ME_Dept/ ________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Rich@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: All writers seeking publication Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:59:19 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5k90te$m6c@chile.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip178.an20-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net Now*accepting and writers for publication. We are a NEW=YORK based international literary agency with three offices: 2 in NEW=YORK and one in For ALL fiction, including screenplays for TV & Movies: Send us a , the first chapter, and include a self-addressed, stamped envelope=S.A.S.E. Short Stories: Send brief synopsis, 3 pages, S.A.S.E. Poetry: Send 3 poems, S.A.S.E. For ALL nonfiction: Send us a , the first chapter, and include a S.A.S.E. Do not send complete manuscript unless invited. <(Tel)=={718}=651=8145> #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!not-for-mail From: "Chris" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTK: Color Turbo Video Date: 1 May 1997 04:30:40 GMT Organization: Thenet Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bc55e8$2bc00770$a478c0d0@hal9000> NNTP-Posting-Host: a2p164.thenet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 If any one out there knows the pinouts of 13W3 Video signal for NX Color Turbo or Nx Dimention. I could shure use it. Regards Chris Please E-MIal cea@thenet.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5k90te$m6c@chile.earthlink.net> Date: 1 May 1997 04:04:16 GMT Control: cancel <5k90te$m6c@chile.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sender: Rich@aol.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can I put an 040 motherboard into a 030 cube? References: <5k5cu9$a1c@slip.net> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <33681cf8.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 1 May 97 04:32:56 GMT Lines: 33 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article , David Evans wrote: >In article <5k5cu9$a1c@slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Another way of asking the same question is : >>are the mother connectors in the 030 cube the >>same as those for an 040? >> > > Yep. Just stick it in and away you go (after removing the '030 board first, >unless you want to do surgery on the backplane.) > >-- >David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca >Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ >University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer >Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual Depends from what machine you obtained your 040 board. A NeXTStation 040 board does not fit a cube. A cube 040 board can simply plug in in place of the 030 board. Good luck. david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!clunix.cl.msu.edu!blazek From: Rudolf B Blazek Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 10:56:50 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k7nk4$fj@mpaque.mpaque> NNTP-Posting-Host: clunix.cl.msu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > The NeXT answers seem to say that you need exactly 70ns SIMMs (and that > is what we did), but when removing the original memory that was put there > by NeXT, it was 60ns, if I remember correctly. > > Someone posted here that mixing 60ns and 70ns SIMMs causes the real > problems. That the mixed SIMMs could be recognized as 100ns SIMMs. > > But if you use 60ns only, you should be fine. > > Now, the last sentence is actually a question. Could someone confirm what > I just wrote? I am going to buy some RAM myself and don't wanna get into > troubles. > > I don't want 70ns SIMMs, but I'd get them if that was the only safe way. > > Thanks. > > Rudy > blazek@stt.msu.edu > OK, I brought home 8 RAM sticks, 4x70ns and 4x60ns. I tried to combine them in all possible ways. The SIMMs got recognized as either 60ns or 70ns, depending if any 70ns chip was present. I did also some (not very precise) measurements of the speed and all configuration seemed to work as fast as the others. I was using NeXTstation Color Turbo ADB. Thus, I think that most likely the version of the motherboard matters. I am sure that my motherboard is pretty new (ADB machine). So, what I said before seems to be wrong, at least for this machine. Good luck to all. Rudy. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.bawue.de!eisbaer.bb.bawue.de!eskimo.bb.bawue.de!root From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 30 Apr 1997 20:28:41 GMT Organization: "private site" Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5k8a1p$1ap@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <01bc54ee$44a86ed0$0100007f@atlan> Reply-To: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.197.13.41 Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.24 / Apr 16, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rainer Hubovsky wrote in <01bc54ee$44a86ed0$0100007f@atlan> on 1997-04-30 00:42:11 +0200: > What do you think? Should I spend a little more money, buy an Intel and be > on the save side or is it OK to take the AMD? I first had an AMD DX4 and wasn't able to compile anything at all. When I bought an Intel everything worked fine. I don't know if this incompatability is only related to the 486. --- _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 1 May 1997 15:37:48 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5kadcc$ede@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <5k8a1p$1ap@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Reply-To: ashrafi@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: stsfac.mit.edu I've been using NS3.3 on an AMD 120MHz 486 since it came out and am very happy with it. Compiled lots of stuff, no problems. Don't know about the K5 or K6. Babak Juergen Grieb writes > Rainer Hubovsky wrote > > What do you think? Should I spend a little more money, buy an Intel and be > > on the save side or is it OK to take the AMD? > > I first had an AMD DX4 and wasn't able to compile anything at all. > When I bought an Intel everything worked fine. > I don't know if this incompatability is only related to the 486. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news.hvision.nl!not-for-mail From: computer gebruikers vereniging Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 20:15:17 +0200 Organization: Home Vision Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3368DDB5.DDE@hvision.nl> Reply-To: cgv@hvision.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: cs2p00.hvision.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="help.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Content-Disposition: inline; filename="help.txt" Please pelp me to repair my conner CFA540A Hard disc drive! By making contact to the frame of my computer 2 components of the printboard where blown out. I like to replace them, but i dont have the electric manual. The parts are of the type SMD and have no technical information printed on top of them, so i can't replace them unless i have the specifications. Can you help me width a copy of the electric documentation, or do you know where to find them? Thanks. Ad Mutsaers cgv@hvision.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 15:01:54 -0600 From: Rene Berber Subject: Jaz Disks Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <862516338.2930@dejanews.com> Reply-To: rberber@spin.com.mx Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu May 01 19:52:25 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 200.12.165.148 (orion41.spin.com.mx) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: Rene Berber Lines: 26 To fellow jaz disk owners: There have been several recent postings to this newsgroup regarding faulty jaz disks and/or hardware. As pointed out by heikki ketola (Re: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT), there is a recall from IOMEGA that affects disks manufactured between certain dates. Quoting from IOMEGA: "If the date falls within the period March 13, 1997 (03 13 97) to April 20, 1997 (04 20 97) AND the letters and numbers below the date end with "MS" the disk should not be used and must be replaced." The manufacturing date is laser-etched in the back of the disk. For more information: http://www.iomega.com/company/news/newsjaz/jazdisk.html Hope this helps, ------ Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!yuma!usenet From: kelley@mudpot.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need new monitor for color NeXT station Date: 1 May 1997 14:38:12 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5ka9sk$k0o@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: mudpot.atmos.colostate.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) hi. we had a 17" monitor on a color (non-turbo) NeXT station. well, the monitor is dying fast. i went through my usual tech person and they just dont fix these NeXT monitors anymore. can anyone tell me (email preferred) how to get a NeXT OR non-NeXT replacement (what works on a color slab???)? any help will be greatly appreciated! kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university #################################################################### From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone using Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM? Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 12:36:50 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 21 Message-ID: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!howland.erols.net!gatech!news1.mid-ga.com!nntp.mid-ga.com!news.oru.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat I've gotten 2 of them now from CDW, and they both have two thin (ie one pixel) lines that go the entire width of the screen... one is about 3/4" from the top and another is about the same distance from the bottom. Anyone else seen this and / or know what causes/fixes it? It's pretty much right at eye level.... for $700+ I was hoping for a pretty perfect monitor... TjL -- TjL < Damned pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!97.chicago-036.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone using Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM? Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 17:35:24 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.63.97 > I've gotten 2 of them now from CDW, and they both have two thin (ie one > pixel) lines that go the entire width of the screen... one is about 3/4" > from the top and another is about the same distance from the bottom. > > Anyone else seen this and / or know what causes/fixes it? > > It's pretty much right at eye level.... for $700+ I was hoping for a > pretty perfect monitor... > Is it a line similar to the lines on Trinitron monitors which are used to alligh the aperture grille? Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 1 May 1997 22:16:44 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5kb4oc$vee$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k7nk4$fj@mpaque.mpaque> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu In article , Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > > > >Someone posted here that mixing 60ns and 70ns SIMMs causes the real >problems. That the mixed SIMMs could be recognized as 100ns SIMMs. > >But if you use 60ns only, you should be fine. > >Now, the last sentence is actually a question. Could someone confirm what >I just wrote? I am going to buy some RAM myself and don't wanna get into >troubles. > On my Color Turbo Station: - 70ns by itself, recoqnized as 70ns - 60ns by itself, recoqnized as 60ns, ran as fast as the 70ns - install the two speeds together, recognized as 70ns system runs well, no problem at all. Go figure, Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone using Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM? Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 16:23:25 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Thu, 1 May 1997 mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > It's pretty much right at eye level.... for $700+ I was hoping for a > > pretty perfect monitor... > > > Is it a line similar to the lines on Trinitron monitors which are used to > alligh the aperture grille? Sadly yes it seems to be afeature, designed to give better color and clarity... life is a trade-off... TjL -- TjL < Greatly pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!sprint!news-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!news.us.net!news.freedomnet.com!not-for-mail From: bchin@NOSPAM.richmond.freedomnet.com (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 1 May 1997 23:53:15 GMT Organization: FreedomNet - Your Full Service Internet Provider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5kbadb$5do$1@news.freedomnet.com> References: <01bc54ee$44a86ed0$0100007f@atlan> NNTP-Posting-Host: p2f.freedomnet.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Rainer Hubovsky" wrote: >Hello! > >I want to buy a new processor but I'm not sure which one to take. >The two alternatives I'm considering are an Intel Pentium 200 MMX and an >AMD K6 200. >The AMD is cheaper and I was told that it is a little bit faster than the >Intel. The AMD's floating point unit is not as good, but it's integer computation should be on par. Of course, unless someone does head to head comparison on your applications under NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP/Mach, it's really hard to tell. >Are there any know problems with an AMD under NeXtStep ? I asked this question a little while ago about the K5 and only received responses indicated problems with the Cyrix 6x86. I never received confirmation that the K5 works, but AMD had put the K5 through independent testing which included NEXTSTEP 3.3 (among other OS's). That was good enough for me. I went ahead and ordered a K5, but I received an Intel Pentium instead and therefore can't confirm that OPENSTEP/Mach works on AMD K5's. Unfortunately, the K6's certification letter (http://www.xxcal.com/amdk6.html) does not list NEXTSTEP. However, AMD's Processor Compatibility List does include NEXTSTEP 3.3 (http://www.amd.com/K6/k6docs/compat/k6compat.htm). I would suggest buying the K6 only if you can get independent confirmation that it works well (run OmniWeb :-)) and/or get it from someplace that you can return it to. -- Bill Chin - bchin@richmond.freedomnet.com - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!not-for-mail From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 2 May 1997 01:58:35 GMT Organization: cdb graphics Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5kbhob$fqq@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k7nk4$fj@mpaque.mpaque> <5kb4oc$vee$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Reply-To: cdb@precipice.com (christopher borden) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu In <5kb4oc$vee$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Paulus Adisoemarta wrote: > In article , > Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > > > > > > > >Someone posted here that mixing 60ns and 70ns SIMMs causes the real > >problems. That the mixed SIMMs could be recognized as 100ns SIMMs. > > > >But if you use 60ns only, you should be fine. > > > >Now, the last sentence is actually a question. Could someone confirm what > >I just wrote? I am going to buy some RAM myself and don't wanna get into > >troubles. > > > > On my Color Turbo Station: > - 70ns by itself, recoqnized as 70ns > - 60ns by itself, recoqnized as 60ns, ran as fast as the 70ns > - install the two speeds together, recognized as 70ns > system runs well, no problem at all. > > Go figure, > > Paulus > yes, i gather it's not the turbo motherboard rather just the nd which brings up the situation where 60ns sticks get read at 100ns, right? mike paquette, whoever your employer is, could you please take the "mike" on this? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 21:02:04 -0600 From: tacoma46@sprintmail.com Subject: FS: New NEXT 400 dpi laser printer(s) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <862537768.24137@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri May 02 01:49:28 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 206.133.14.36 (sdn-ts-029mdrelRP01.dialsprint.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01C-SI300A01 (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: tacoma46@sprintmail.com Lines: 32 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17417 comp.sys.next.hardware:28623 comp.sys.next.misc:25749 FOR SALE= Three (3) only, NEXT Model N2000 Laser Printer Condition: N-E-W, in box, with AC power cable, data cable, both trays (paper cassette and receiver) Price: $249 each, plus shipping via United Parcel Service Terms: Prepayment via Money Order required, plus $40 shipping deposit. 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SAME TERMS AS ABOVE. 195 + 50 = $245 ================================================================== -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: akwong@MCS.COM (ANDREW KWONG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 1 May 1997 22:23:59 -0500 Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5kbmof$rv6$1@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k48ab$saj@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jupiter.mcs.net I believe it depends on your NeXT's ROM version... Mine is v.70 and it takes 60ns just fine. What is the version number which takes 60ns SIMMs as 100ns?? Anybody know the latest ROM version?? I bought mine ROM 2 years ago to fix some bugs directly from NeXT... since NeXT is no longer making the hardware, there is no update anymore. Andy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!world1.bellatlantic.net!news From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What kind of RAM in a turbo color slab Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 01:24:39 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 20 Message-ID: <33697A91.5962@BellAtlantic.net> Reply-To: dutky@BellAtlantic.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 20424510568.bellatlantic.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28625 comp.sys.next.misc:25751 I've got a turbo color slab and I just swapped memory between it and my intel-box. The Intel box runs fine with the 2 8-meg SIMMs from the NeXT but the NeXT reports parity errors and hangs. I've tried resetting the NVRAM by pulling the battery but to no avail. (the parity error message on the ROM monitor has been replaced by the much less helpfull "System has failed startup tests" message on the graphical startup screen) Neither the 8-Meg SIMMs that came out of the NeXT nor the 16-Meg SIMMs that came out of the intel-box seem to have parity (the 8-Meg SIMMs are double sided with 8 chips per side while the 16-Meg SIMMs are single sided and have only 8 chips total) so I'm a little puzzled by the parity error. I seem to remember that the ROM monitor preferences command had an option to use parity checking if parity memory was installed. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any help. - Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news.tu-chemnitz.de!not-for-mail From: Mario Illgen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 2 May 1997 10:22:39 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5kcf9f$kt2$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <01bc54ee$44a86ed0$0100007f@atlan> <5kbadb$5do$1@news.freedomnet.com> Reply-To: Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE NNTP-Posting-Host: gormenghast.csn.tu-chemnitz.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi there, bchin@NOSPAM.richmond.freedomnet.com (Bill Chin) wrote: >I asked this question a little while ago about the K5 and only received >responses indicated problems with the Cyrix 6x86. I never received confirmation >that the K5 works, but AMD had put the K5 through independent testing which >included NEXTSTEP 3.3 (among other OS's). That was good enough for me. I went >ahead and ordered a K5, but I received an Intel Pentium instead and therefore >can't confirm that OPENSTEP/Mach works on AMD K5's. > OPENSTEP/Mach 4.0 is running here with no problems so far (AMD K5PR100)... Ciao, Mario -- Mario Illgen, TU Chemnitz-Zwickau "I laughed in the mirror for the first time in a year..." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mitzi.rsmas.miami.edu!news.aoml.noaa.gov!news From: powell@aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB Keyboards and X emulation Date: 2 May 1997 13:45:20 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5kcr5g$br5@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.aoml.noaa.gov X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:29357 comp.sys.next.hardware:28627 I'm having problems getting Cub'X5.0 to run properly on a NSturbo color with ADB. If I have an xterm up na dstart typing I get wierd characters. for instance the "e" in telnet will not show. NeXTanswers 1070 states: The new display and ADB keyboard are not yet fully compatible with some third-party software, specifically packages such as X Window emulators and SoftPC(TM). All third-party software applications that communicate directly to the keyboard, such as software emulators, will have problems working with the new keyboard. But that was dated fall of '92. I'm wondering if somehow it could be related to my booting off an external HD that was originally configured to work with a non adb machine (NS Color). I'm using NS 3.3 and my new hw uses ROM v.74 Any advice out there? -- Dr. Mark D. Powell powell@aoml.noaa.gov Research Meteorologist, (Member, NOAA '96 Olympics Marine Forecast Team) (Swimmer, IMCO Windsurfer, NEXTSTEP advocate) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: ADB Replacement Mouse. Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3367F08B.55DE@lei.com> Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:47:26 GMT Lines: 23 In article <3367F08B.55DE@lei.com> Martin Lightheart writes: > My Color TurboNeXT Station has adb connectors for the mouse and > keyboard. My mouse was rudely taken apart by one of my kids and the > ball retainer is missing. I need to get a replacement mouse or > trackball to install some software I am expecting tomorrow. No telling > where that piece is. Since it is adb, can I get a Apple replacement for > my box? And also does apple keyboards work with an adb NeXT? I am > curious on this one. I don't have any friends with a Mac to borrow a > rodent from (if the apple mouse would do the job). I will have to get a > replacement NeXT mouse though. > ADB keyboards and mice will interchange. You might want to redo the keyboard mapping, though. And you'd possibly miss the second mouse button (hey, I even know of someone who misses a third button on NeXTs ;-) For a replacement try posting on c.s.n.marketplace. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: WTK: Color Turbo Video Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <01bc55e8$2bc00770$a478c0d0@hal9000> Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:12:52 GMT Lines: 29 In article <01bc55e8$2bc00770$a478c0d0@hal9000> "Chris" writes: > If any one out there knows the pinouts of 13W3 Video signal for NX Color > Turbo or Nx Dimention. I could shure use it. > The plug on the system side (not the screen!) is like this: / P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 \ /(A1) (A2) (A3)\ / P6 P7 P8 P9 P10 \ with Pin 1 = 12V Pin 2 = Pwr Switch Pin 3 = Clk Pin 4 = Data Out Pin 5 = data In Pin 6 = -12V Pin 7 - 10 = Gnd A1 = Red Video A2 = Green Video A3 = Blue Video -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Swapping Drives Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:59:54 GMT Lines: 24 In article mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: > I have two questions: > > a) Is there a problem with taking the main boot drive from a > Turbo Dimension Cube and putting it in a NeXTstation non-turbo > mono. Here's the deal, I already did the switch and i want to > know if I'm likely to have problems. :-) > No known problems. > b) Is there an easy way to copy the developer information from > one drive to another. I have 3.2 developer on a HD, but I don't > have it on CD. I want it on another drive, but I don't want to > build the entier disk. > Also no known problems. 'ditto' will come handy copying entire filesystems and partial trees. But a 'tar' piped into 'tar' will also do. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sesqui.net!uuneo.neosoft.com!Starbase.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail From: wbrown@neosoft.com (W. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Technical Manuals for NeXT Black? Date: 2 May 1997 17:01:52 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5kd6m0$c77@uuneo.neosoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.109.7.129 X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Hallo folks, I'm hoping to start an OpenBSD porting effort to NeXT black hardware. I was wondering if detailed technical manuals documenting the hardware existed, to a sufficient detail enough for an operating system port? M68K code exists, so a lot of the work is done already. However, I need to know details such as MMU, memory registers, and the like. Even better would be for me to get ahold of old NeXTstep sources, like 1.0 or 2.0. :) Thanks, Wes Brown wbrown@starbase.neosoft.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <5kd5cs$5sm$7376@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5kd5cs$5sm$7376@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> no reply ignore Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 18:17:27 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: a X-Orig-Date: 2 May 1997 16:39:56 GMT Sender: hinda ann kolansky X-Orig-Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lines: 2 ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-peer.gsl.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.midusa.net!postmaster From: "H. Blakely Williford" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 09:13:39 -0500 Organization: The Fuller Brush Company Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3369F693.104805B4@fuller.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: node1.greatbend.midusa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10871 comp.sys.next.hardware:28632 comp.sys.next.programmer:24264 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66648 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22237 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11667 John Nagle wrote: > > don_arb@wolfenet.com (Don Arbow) writes: > >In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox > > wrote: > >: Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. > >: They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit > >: 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform > >: over the competition. > > The Alpha is faster and still isn't selling. See the Business > week article on it. > com'on -- dec's stealth advertising is going to work Palmer is betting the whole existance of the Co. on it. -- H. Blakely Williford Men never do evil so completely and Systems Administrator cheerfully as when they do it from The Fuller Brush Company religious conviction. (Pascal) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.midusa.net!postmaster From: "H. Blakely Williford" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 09:10:47 -0500 Organization: The Fuller Brush Company Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3369F5E7.71278577@fuller.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: node1.greatbend.midusa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10872 comp.sys.next.hardware:28633 comp.sys.next.programmer:24265 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66649 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22238 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11668 paul maddox wrote: > > Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. > They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit > 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform > over the competition. no not realy dec past that a long time ago with the Alpha 21164PC at 533Mhz. -- H. Blakely Williford Men never do evil so completely and Systems Administrator cheerfully as when they do it from The Fuller Brush Company religious conviction. (Pascal) #################################################################### From: hinda ann kolansky Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 2 May 1997 16:39:56 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Corp Lines: 86 Message-ID: <5kd5cs$5sm$7376@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port85.frst3.prodigy.net Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.touch.net!news.infostar.de!news2.planetc.com!news.planetc.com!newsfeed2!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.207.105.50!prodigy.com!not-for-mail ****Make up to $50,000 in 4 weeks! 100% leagal**** NO SCAM!!! Make $50,000 in 4 weeks! This system works! NOT A SCAM... Read the text! This is the fairest, most honest way I have seen to share in the wealth of the world! This works so well that all of my friends are trying it! Take five minutes to read this and it IT'LL change your life if you want to know how to make thousands of dollars quickly, and leagally with NO CATCH, then keep reading. THe internet has grown tremendously. it doubles in size every 4 months. Think about it. YOu see those "make money fast" postings more and more. Thats becasue it works! So I thought, all those new users might make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago. Besides, whats $5 and a little effort on your behalf?? Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are soany new users from AOL, NETCOM, etc. that they will join in and make it work for you. just follow these simple steps: STEP ONE Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate sheets of paper along wit the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (in this way you are not just sending a dollar bill to someone, you are paying for a legimate service.) Also on each of the sheets of paper indicate the number of the person. Fold a $1 bill inside each piece of paper with your name and address on it. Ensure that when the dollar is folded in between the paper and it is held up to light, THE DOLLAR SHOULD NOT BE VISABLE! Mail 5 of these letters to the following 5 addresses: (only U.S. Dollar bills should be used) 1) Odd Hilsen Avda Espana 93 Sitio de Calahonda Mijias Costa- Malaga SPAIN 2) Peter Kjoge Camino de la Condesa 9, 5-A E-29640 Fuengirola SPAIN 3) Bob Tomlinson 3208 21st Sioux City, La 51105 USA 4) Alex Tikhanoff 1636 n. Verdugo rd. Glendale Ca. 91208 apt.202 USA 5) hinda kolansky 49-35 167 st flushing ny 11365 usa STEP TWO Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other names up. This way, #5 becomes #4 and so o. Put your name as the fifth one on the list. STEP 3 Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at least 19000 newsgroups at any given moment in time. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can. Remember, the more newsgroups you post to, the greater your audience and cash flow from all these subscribers. STEP 4 You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the internet is new and awesome in its size. There is no way you can lose. now here is how and why the system works: Out of every block of 250 posts i made, i got back 5 responses. YES! THATS RIGHT ONLY 5. You make $5 in cash, not check or money orders, but real cash with your name at #5. Each additional person who sent you $1 now will also make 250 additional postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings. On average then, 50 people will send you $1 with your name at #4....$50 in your pocket! Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average returns, 500 people=$500.00. they make 250 postings each with your name at #2=100,000 postings=5000 returns at $1 each=$5,000 in cash!! Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at #1 and you get a return of $50,000 before your name is dropped from the list. And thats only if everyone down the line makes 250 postings each! Your total income for this cycle is $50,000.00 When you see your name is no longer on the list, you take the latest posting and start all over again. The end result depends largely on you. You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of! The more postings you make, the more cash ends up in your mailbox. Its too easy and too cheap to pass up!! So thats it. Pretty simple sounding working concept, dont you think? But believe me, this really works. There are millions o people surfind the net every day, all day, all over the world. And 100,000 new subscribers everday eager to access your newsgroup. Youknow that because you have read the facts in the newspaper and seen for yourself on T.V. So, my dear little 'fortne seeker.' read carefully the instructions and play fair and swuare with your endeavors.. remember, YOU CAN ONLY TAKE OUT WHAT YOU PUT IN!! thats the key to success in any venture. Print these pages out now so that you may refer to this article at a later date. try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be! REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE BIG BUCKS!! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOUW ILL BE MORE THAN GENEROUSLY REWARDED! P.S. if you try to decieve people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and thats after 2 months) then he sent the five bills and was added to their lists. In 4-5 weeks, he had in excess of $10,000. Good luck! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mitzi.rsmas.miami.edu!news.aoml.noaa.gov!news From: powell@aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB Keyboards and X emulation Date: 2 May 1997 20:41:57 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5kdjil$hse@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> References: <5kcr5g$br5@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.aoml.noaa.gov X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:29368 comp.sys.next.hardware:28635 Claire Normand of Intuitive Systems emailed me that a patch to Cub'X is available. I downloaded it and will try it out this weekend. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Mark D. Powell powell@aoml.noaa.gov Research Meteorologist, (Member, NOAA '96 Olympics Marine Forecast Team) (Swimmer, IMCO Windsurfer, V15 Fleet Cap'n, NEXTSTEP advocate) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone using Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM? Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 21:41:13 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 29 Message-ID: <970503064113.634AAGhE.root@color> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.94 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: Eloquent[2.01]; Eloquent is a Trademark of Take 3 >Timothy Luoma wrote: >>On Thu, 1 May 1997 mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: >>> It's pretty much right at eye level.... for $700+ I was hoping for a >>> pretty perfect monitor... >>> >> Is it a line similar to the lines on Trinitron monitors which are used to >> alligh the aperture grille? > >Sadly yes it seems to be afeature, designed to give better color and >clarity... life is a trade-off... > >TjL Yes, I have also TOTOKU CV213(DiamondTron) and SONY 20SE (Trinitron) monitors. They both have two damper line. Someone say, It's natural thing for high quality on Trinitron monitors. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, SGI O2 Q&A board written in Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!uwvax!qualcomm.com!t-msimpson-mac.qualcomm.com!simpson From: Michael Simpson Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: 23 Apr 1997 18:36:54 GMT Organization: None Lines: 43 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5jlks6$l5g$1@thefuture.qualcomm.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: t-msimpson-mac.qualcomm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.4_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:36:50 GMT Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10873 comp.sys.next.hardware:28637 comp.sys.next.programmer:24270 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66677 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22241 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11671 In article John Nagle, nagle@netcom.com writes: >Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea >From: John Nagle, nagle@netcom.com >Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:26:38 GMT >> >don_arb@wolfenet.com (Don Arbow) writes: >>In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox >> wrote: >>: Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. >>: They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit >>: 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform >>: over the competition. > > The Alpha is faster and still isn't selling. See the Business >week article on it. > >>: To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- >>: Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word >>: modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive >>: hardware a large performance boost. > > But it's vaporware. Last year at this time, we had Copland, >which was also vaporware, and more compatible. > > Realistically, nothing is going to happen on the application front >until Rhapsody ships to developers. That may or may not happen; >Ellison may succeed in his hostile takeover of Apple, the Saudi >prince may buy a controlling interest, or Apple may just screw up >again. > > John Nagle John, One of our developers just came back from Apple. The future is bright. I've been a Mac devotee for years. I've also done programming on Windows NT. There was some wishfulness on my part that the Mac had some of the features of NT. No more. Rhapsody is very cool. Our developer saw it running and was able to program for it now. Apple will disclose all at WWDC and I think you will be pleased. Michael #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!interpath!news.interpath.net!news.interpath.net!mercury!dblakele From: dblakele@mercury.interpath.net (Dean D. Blakeley - Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seagate HD's as Internal HD for 68040-25 Mono Cube Date: 3 May 1997 03:02:57 GMT Organization: Interpath Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5ke9t1$6oj@redstone.interpath.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.interpath.com Howdy do! I know this is something that has been debated ad nauseam, but there were a few things I couldn't figure out completely from scanning back issues of csn.* through DejaNews. My trusty old Maxtor XT8760S which I've been using as my internal HD for over 5 years is still acting flaky. I've had enough system panics on bootup lately, that I've *finally* decided to break over a get a new HD. I've narrowed the field down to two Seagate drives -- ST31051N or ST51080N. What I had planned to do was to get the new HD installed externally on the SCSI bus, build it for NS3.3, pop out the old Maxtor and plug the Seagate into it's place. I still use my OD as a backup device (and by saying so, I'm feeling *incredibly* ancient) and plan on sticking out with black hardware as long as possible. I've got so many heritage files that I still run with Improv, Word Perfect and Appsoft Draw on a regular basis, I've not wanted to part with them yet. (Plus, the prices for single copies of Quantrix, OpenWrite and Create would be enough to buy a whole new Windoze box. But, I digress.) I got a sense that with these two drives, there might be some disktab changes that would have to be done. So, here's the question. What are some of the specifics on changing /etc/disktab and does it matter if the drive is internal or external? And, as always, thank you for your support. Peace -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Jones St Family Medicine _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | 618 West Jones Street \\// Office Tel # (919) 755-1888 | | Raleigh NC 27603 \/ #include | #################################################################### From: "Xavier BOULHOL" Subject: How change IP address en NeXTSTEP 3.2 ? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Proginext Message-ID: <01bc57ac$d1962240$d434fac2@next212.lenet.fr> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.250.52.212 Date: 3 May 97 10:31:05 GMT Lines: 13 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!pull-feed.internetmci.com!208.132.95.11!194.250.52.212 Hello Next's users After change our Classe C, I must change the IP address of my Next Station (3.2) I try to modify /etc/hostconfig but it was an echec. It's not possible via Sample Network Manager Can you help me please ? Thanks > orestes@comland.com > Black Hardware = Next station and cubes (Turbo or not) White Hardware = PC under NeXTSTEP ! #################################################################### From: Peter Sung Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: All you need is to invest $5 for a FORTUNE!!! ACT NOW!!! Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 04:06:21 -0700 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 433 Message-ID: <336B1C2D.438E@hula.net> Reply-To: fantasia@hula.net NNTP-Posting-Host: elua12.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="income.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Content-Disposition: inline; filename="income.txt" Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!root A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $5.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam," but like most of us I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 5 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured what have I got to lose except 5 stamps and $5.00, right? Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with my country Post Office, and others had with US Post (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Then I invested the measly $5.00............. Well GUESS WHAT!!... with in 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in ....... It's certainly worth $5.00, and 5 stamps, I spent more than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, Why it works....also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. The process is very simple and consists of 3 easy steps: STEP 1: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 5 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by this. THIS IS PERFECTLY LEGAL! Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses: #1 B.C. Smith P.O. Box 170 Greenland, AR 72703 #2 Beddingfield, Bobby 12404 Nokesville Road P.O. Box 40 Nokesville, Va 22123 #3 Keen, Callye 44181 Bristow Circle Ashburn, VA 20147 #4 Tom, BDB. Via Damiano Chiesa 10 00010 Marcellina (Roma) Italy #5 H. J. Sung 1839 Keeaumoku St. Honolulu, HI 96822-3004 STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (5 becomes 4, 4 becomes 3, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 5 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there is close to 25,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the following: FOR NETSCAPE USERS: 1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a message box. 2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used, something to catch the eye!!! 3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (remember to add your name to number 5 and move the rest up) 4) When your done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on 'FILE' above the send button. Then, 'SAVE AS..' DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTILL YOU SAVE IT. (so you don't have to type this 200 times :-) 5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first copy! (click the 'SEND' button in the top left corner) 6) This is where you post all 200! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and click the 'TO NEWS' button again. Type in your flashy subject in the 'SUBJECT BOX', then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now click on 'ATTACHMENT' which is right below the 'SUBJECT BOX'. Click on attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click once on your file then click 'OPEN' then click 'OK'. If you did this right, you should see your filename in the 'ATTACHMENT BOX' and it will be shaded. NOW POST AWAY! FOR INTERNET EXPLORER: It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this entire article, then press the 'CTRL' key and 'C' key at the same time to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE' type in your flashy subject and click the large window below. Press 'CTRL' and 'V' and the article will appear in the message window. **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.** Now re-highlight the article and re-copy it so you have the changes.... then all you have to do for each newsgroup is 'CTRL' and 'V' and press 'POST'. It's that easy!! THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** **If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte’s "Free Agent." It is freeware for noncommercial use. To download it, simply use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent". You should be able to find it.** That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you con invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** --- Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #3 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! With a original investment of only $5.00! AMAZING! And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will make: at #5 $15.00 at #4 $225.00 at #3 $3,375.00 at #2 $50,625.00 at #1 $759,375.00 When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 5 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to be honest. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the money!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is tons of extra CASH. **By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! Don't listen to the people that don't trust it and continue to say it's illegal and don't work... They are just too much skeptics. You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!news.clark.net!news.usit.net!knox-max99.dynamic.usit.net!user From: "Sanford L. Clark" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXT Display on Mac? Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 11:04:26 -0400 Organization: U.S. Internet Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.241.221.153 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.0 (22) ALL: I was wondering, Is it possible to use a Next display on a Macintosh? Is there anadapter or something out there or are they compatible? -Sandy sandyc@NO.SPAM.usit.net #################################################################### Date: 3 May 1997 15:23:49 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-by: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: Peter Sung Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <336B1C2D.438E@hula.net> Control: cancel <336B1C2D.438E@hula.net> X-No-Archive: Yes X-Spam-Type: MMF Lines: 4 MMF spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: All you need is to invest $5 for a FORTUNE!!! ACT NOW!!! Total spams this type to date: 67122 Total this spam type for this user to date: 219 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Martin Lightheart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Video capabilities for OpenStep 4.1?? Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 13:29:21 -0400 Organization: LEI, Corp. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <336B75F1.42D4@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb30p.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 3 May 1997 17:28:59 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Hi all, There is an app on my Turbo Color Slab (T.C.S.) that brings up a black TV set. I thought to my self, "...this is probably for a cube with that dimension board...". Is this so? How does one display video using a T.C.S.? How about video on an Intel box running 4.1, any suggestions? On the T.C.S., what are some of the uses for the DSP port? Anyone out there that makes hardware for the DSP port? I have had my T.C.S. for less than a week and it is nice. Martin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!zdc!super.zippo.com!news.onramp.net!news From: Brian Sutherland Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.oz.linux.x,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.oz.linux.setup Subject: NeXT 21 Monitor Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 14:00:14 -0500 Organization: Verio Inc Lines: 12 Message-ID: <336B8B3E.B2BBEDBC@onramp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blah.onramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:78379 comp.sys.next.hardware:28644 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17442 I am looking for Xconfig info for this monitor to run under XFree86. Has anyone had any luck with this? NeXT 21 Monitor. I can get the graphics card to work fine and the monitor shows text fine but I do not know how to config the monitor under X. Any info on the configs of just info about the monitor would help. Thanx alot -Brian rmaniac @ onramp.net do not hit reply. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!EU.net!news.eunet.fi!news.kolumbus.fi!mordred.cc.jyu.fi!tukki!otto From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.misc,sfnet.atk.nt,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,sfnet.atk.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT laser printer type in Windows NT 4.0? Followup-To: poster Date: 4 May 1997 03:56:37 +0300 Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland Lines: 18 Sender: otto@tukki.cc.jyu.fi Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tukki.cc.jyu.fi NNTP-Posting-User: otto Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26594 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.misc:31393 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking:38979 comp.sys.next.hardware:28645 I've recently put Windows NT 4.0 into my PC as an addition to linux. I've set up TCP/IP printing to print to my NeXTstation 400dpi PS laser printer. Everything works nicely, except I haven't found a specific entry for the NeXT laser printer in Windows NT, nor have I located a "generic postscript" option. The only thing relevant I found on the net was a MicroSoft KnowledgeBase article from 1995 (http://www.microsoft.com/kb/articles/q104/7/48.htm) for NT 3.5 which has the most cheerful title of NeXT 400 DPI Laser Printer Is Not Supported Under Windows NT Suggestions, anyone? This most probably isn't widely interesting, so please reply via email to me. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 14 613 847, BBS: +358 14 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */ /* Mail: Cygn.k.7 E 46/FIN-40100 Jyvaskyla/Finland, ICBM: 62.14N 25.44E */ /* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Hendry Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:13:14 -0700 Organization: CTS Network Services Lines: 48 Message-ID: <336164BA.6A1E@cts.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> <5jr844$m66$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: optional.cts.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Cache-Post-Path: optional.cts.com!unknown@p46156242.cts.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.scitech:10876 comp.sys.next.hardware:28646 comp.sys.next.programmer:24281 comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior:66713 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:22250 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3:11673 Scott Anguish wrote: > > On 04/25/97, Mel Martinez wrote: > > > >In article <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk>, > >hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) wrote: > >> > >> Interestingly, Apple are dumping GameSprockets and going for a > corporate > >> image when they really should be competing with MS's w95 gaming > strategy. > >> > > > >According to information reported on MacInTouch > (http://www.macintouch.com > >and other sources, the GameSprockets team is still pretty much > >intact and GS is still alive at least on MacOS 7/8 & Rhapsody Blue > >Box for the next few years. The only unknown is whether they will > >port GS to Rhapsody Yellow Box - the comment on this from one of > >the team members was essentially that even _they_ don't know if > >that is worth doing or not. > > This is pretty much right from the sprockets-mouth > > While Game Sprockets on its own isn't necessarily an easy > sell, the capabilities it offers are coming to Rhapsody... > > When it comes right down to it, thats what is important. > Exactly. If all Apple did was directly port the old technologies over, it would be as bad as Microsoft's Mac software. Microsoft's Mac apps are Windows at the core, with only the slightest accomodation of the Mac way of doing things. And you can tell. Apple has to look at the old Mac OS technologies, and figure out how they would best be implemented in the new OS. Things like Game Sprockets should be redesigned to take the most advantage of the capabilities of Rhapsody. MacOS didn't have Mach messages, or distributed objects, or a dynamic OOP language as the preferred implementation language. Rhapsody does, and Apple should rearchitect their technologies to take advantage of them. - Jon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!zdc!super.zippo.com!news.onramp.net!news.serv.net!gaea.omnigroup.com!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <25195862113623@digifix.com> Date: 4 May 1997 03:59:04 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <851862718425@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:66610 comp.sys.next.announce:4172 comp.sys.next.hardware:28647 comp.sys.next.software:29380 comp.sys.next.misc:25763 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26596 comp.sys.next.bugs:4290 comp.sys.next.programmer:24282 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Micropolis HD: how to set to SCSI id other than 0? Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:17:58 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 49 Message-ID: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Hey folks, I know this might not be ontopic but this has been my m68k boot drive for a long time now... I want to hook it to my new machine as a separate drive, but it won't boot, I suspect because it has the id set to 0 and so does the new machine's. I spent 45 minutes on Micropolis' help line being told that my call was very important to the,.... yet they never answered .. so how important was it? Anyway, I've got no idea how to do this.... most of my drives haev a little selector on the back.. this one does not...in fact all it has it a little square: 1 |-----| | | | | 0 |-----| that square is a hole in the back of the case and there is a piece of metal right flush behind it... Ican't figure out what it means as far as how to chagne it from 0 to 1.... scsimodes says this: SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a Drive type: MICROP 1598-15MD1066702 512 bytes per sector 71 sectors per track 15 tracks per cylinder 1928 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 8 spare sectors per cylinder 45 alternate tracks per volume 2031553 usable sectors on volume I was hoping someone might know how to figure this out of have experience with MicroPolis HDs..... If so please email me Thanks TjL #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How change IP address en NeXTSTEP 3.2 ? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <01bc57ac$d1962240$d434fac2@next212.lenet.fr> Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:02:11 GMT Lines: 18 In article <01bc57ac$d1962240$d434fac2@next212.lenet.fr> "Xavier BOULHOL" writes: > Hello Next's users > > After change our Classe C, I must change the IP address of my Next > Station (3.2) > > I try to modify /etc/hostconfig but it was an echec. > > It's not possible via Sample Network Manager > HostManager.app and plain NetInfoManager.app, of course. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.space.net!news.muc.de!eisbaer.bb.bawue.de!eskimo.bb.bawue.de!root From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 4 May 1997 19:15:54 GMT Organization: "private site" Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5kin9a$22t@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <5k8a1p$1ap@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> <5kadcc$ede@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.197.13.41 Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.27 / May 3, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi wrote in <5kadcc$ede@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> on 1997-05-01 17:37:48 +0200: > I've been using NS3.3 on an AMD 120MHz 486 since it came out and am very > happy with it. Compiled lots of stuff, no problems. Don't know about the > K5 or K6. > Juergen Grieb writes > > I first had an AMD DX4 and wasn't able to compile anything at all. > > When I bought an Intel everything worked fine. > > I don't know if this incompatability is only related to the 486. Maybe problems only show in combination with certain motherboards. I use a Asus SP3G. --- _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Micropolis HD: how to set to SCSI id other than 0? References: Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <336d073b.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 4 May 97 22:01:31 GMT Lines: 98 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article , Timothy Luoma wrote: > > >Hey folks, I know this might not be ontopic but this has been my m68k boot >drive for a long time now... I want to hook it to my new machine as a >separate drive, but it won't boot, I suspect because it has the id set to >0 and so does the new machine's. > >I spent 45 minutes on Micropolis' help line being told that my call was >very important to the,.... yet they never answered .. so how important was >it? > >Anyway, I've got no idea how to do this.... most of my drives haev a >little selector on the back.. this one does not...in fact all it has it a >little square: > > > 1 |-----| > | | > | | > 0 |-----| > >that square is a hole in the back of the case and there is a piece of >metal right flush behind it... > >Ican't figure out what it means as far as how to chagne it from 0 to 1.... > >scsimodes says this: > >SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a >Drive type: MICROP 1598-15MD1066702 >512 bytes per sector >71 sectors per track >15 tracks per cylinder >1928 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) >8 spare sectors per cylinder >45 alternate tracks per volume >2031553 usable sectors on volume > > >I was hoping someone might know how to figure this out of have experience >with MicroPolis HDs..... > >If so please email me > >Thanks > >TjL > > You have to play with the jumpers on the disk itself. There are normally a bunch of jumpers to select various characteristics, and three pairs of these jumpers allow you to select SCSI ID 0-7. x x x x x ..... x x x x x x x x ..... x x x ^ ^ ^ 2 1 0 suppose the six jumpers marked above are the ones involved. They would likely have the binary weights shown underneath. Jumpering none of the pairs would give SCSI ID 0, jumpering just the pair marked 0 would give you 2^0 or 1, jumering the pairs marked 2 and 0 would give you 2^2 + 2^0 = 4 + 1 = 5 and so on. You just have to find which jumpers are involved, open the case, find the jumpers and do it. Jumpers are standard enough that you could likely get some at your local computer store, or maybe you already have some unused jumpers you could press into service (even from a PC board). You should be able to get jumper information from the micropolis web site or fax back (I seem to remember their web site is http://www.microp.com, but I found it by experimenting with few obvious possibilities. Their fax back number is (was!) (818) 709-3325 which is where I got similar information when I needed it -- for a 4110 drive) Then you have to open the case, find the jumpers on the drive itself, and you are in business. If you are really stuck, you could use wire wrap instead of the official jumper shorting blocks.) The cases with a thumb wheel or other selector switch on simply provide a convenient way of doing the jumpering from a specially designed octet switch which allows all eight combinations of jumpers to be set up based of four wires from the switch to the jumpers (one common wire, and three jumer wires). You might even want to buy one of these switches (can be hard to find) and incorporate it into the case so you can select any SCSI ID you like without messing around inside the case, apart from the initial set-up. Hope this helps. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3362A082.3E0F@netcom.com> Sender: clintdw@netcom13.netcom.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:40:34 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; U) Lines: 9 I see from the NeXT FAQ that there's a way to connect a VGA monitor to a (black) NeXT, but is there any way to get the MegaPixel display to work on a PC? I've heard that there are special video cards that do this... called gemini or virage. I went through the search engines but couldn't find anything relevant. Any ideas? Clinton #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!zdc-e!super.zippo.com!newsfeed.gte.net!news-in.iadfw.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: Shahir Rajabzadeh Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,ba.market.computers Subject: FS: Next 20" color monitor $195 Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 18:05:27 -0800 Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 9 Message-ID: <336D4067.3580@flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sftc4-198.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28653 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17455 ba.market.computers:65792 FOR SALE --------- Next 20" color monitor (please note it is not 21"). 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WOODSIDE INTERNATIONAL LITERARY AGENCY 33-29 58 Street Woodside, New York zip: 11377 Tel: 718-651-8145 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5kjmik$9eh@chile.earthlink.net> Date: 5 May 1997 05:49:01 GMT Control: cancel <5kjmik$9eh@chile.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sender: ed@ibm.net X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!227.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardware pasword question Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 07:59:52 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.227 Does anyone know how to eliminate a hardware password? I just got a few NeXTstations in and they all have hardware passwords enabled and I, of course, don't know what they are. If there is a FAQ or NeXTanswer on this, as I supposed there should be, I couldn't find it so even a pointer to the info would be appreciated. Thanks, Mitch #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!server1.adam.ixe.net!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: 53C875 SCSI controller and 53C8xx driver Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:58:06 GMT Lines: 16 Anyone had success with a Symbios Logic (NCR) 53C875 SCSI controller and the 53C8xx driver? If yes, details about versions of NS/OS and driver please. The 53C875 is an UW controller. It comes with the 4.0 version of SDMS. I have the impression that NeXT did test SDMS 3.07 but not 4.0. thanks hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!tubsibr!not-for-mail From: J.Brandenburg@tu-bs.de (Jens Brandenburg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Micropolis HD: how to set to SCSI id other than 0? Date: 5 May 1997 13:07:34 GMT Organization: IBR, TU Braunschweig, Germany Lines: 64 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kkm2m$hr6$1@ra.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: vultur.sielkamp.etc.tu-bs.de In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 On 05/04/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: >Hey folks, I know this might not be ontopic but this has been my m68k boot >drive for a long time now... I want to hook it to my new machine as a >separate drive, but it won't boot, I suspect because it has the id set to >0 and so does the new machine's. ... >scsimodes says this: > >SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a >Drive type: MICROP 1598-15MD1066702 ... >I was hoping someone might know how to figure this out of have experience >with MicroPolis HDs..... The best address for any questions about haddisk jumper settings or specifications is: http://sage.macc.wisc.edu/resources/hardware/harddisk/ At http://sage.macc.wisc.edu/resources/hardware/harddisk/micropolis/1598s pec.doc you should find all you need: _ID2 | _ID1 | | _ID0 | | | Pin 1 J2 | | | J1 | J3 ___________ __________________________ ________ _| | | | | | | |___________|_ |__________________________|___|________| | .. .. | | W5 W4 RN9 W2 | | W1 W11 | | | | W28 | | | | Component Side | ID0, ID1, ID2 SCSI Address Jumpers The SCSI ID (drive address) jumpers are identified as ID0, ID1, and ID2. ID selection is binary, as shown in the table below. SCSI Jumpers Address ID2 ID1 ID0 ------- --- --- --- 0 out out out 1 out out in 2 out in out 3 out in in 4 in out out 5 in out in 6 in in out 7 in in in Remember to remove the RN9 Interface Terminator if the drive is not located at the end of your SCSI chain. Jens #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT and Apple OneScanner Date: 5 May 1997 17:45:37 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5kl6c2$pup$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <336632B5.7B87@suc.org> <5k6hev$1sf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: > well because the answer is a simple negative answer?? > > the best bet is to go to places like Scan-o-matic and GSCorp... or if you > are really good and have the specs .. Frank have a driver for the > Mustek.. and I think the code is included.. (www.this.net) > > Godwin > > Radmilo Bozinovic (rasha@suc.org) wrote: > : Hi all - > > : is it possible to use a an Apple OneScanner (b/w) with a NeXT? Where > : can I find these drivers if they exist? Please send any answers also > : to the above address (rasha@suc.org). > I am not aware of a driver for the Apple One scanner. I would have written one but my karma was to buy a Mustek scanner, so you can find the driver for the 3-pass Mustek on http://www.this.net/~frank (among other stuff). In principle you can take a Linux (user level) driver and adapt the generic SCSI routines to work on NeXTSTEP. This should work in most cases, however it needs a bit of knowledge of the SCSI handling. The Mustek driver may give you some hints if you are determined to take the challenge. --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: hippykill@my.own.bad.site (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware pasword question Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 17:38:09 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <336e1a2b.392272@news.digex.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn001158.belt.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 On Mon, 05 May 1997 07:59:52 -0400, mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: >Does anyone know how to eliminate a hardware password? I just got a few >NeXTstations in and they all have hardware passwords enabled and I, of >course, don't know what they are. > >If there is a FAQ or NeXTanswer on this, as I supposed there should be, I >couldn't find it so even a pointer to the info would be appreciated. Just had this answered myself... Open the case and pop out the battery. Leave it out for awhile (I left it out overnight). Put the battery back in and voila! No hardware password. The first time you boot up it'll try to boot off the network, so hit both command keys and the tilde on the keypad to dump into the ROM monitor. Then use 'p' (I think) to change the default to bsd... Now if I could just convince the thing to ask me who I want to login as instead of logging in as 'me' I'd be all set... mikelea@access.digex.net "listen to your children instead of dissin' them!"-KRS-ONE "rush limbaugh, i'll hit that pig with an axe..." -Channel Live #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!news.indiana.edu!news.indiana.edu!not-for-mail From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware pasword question Date: 5 May 1997 13:51:58 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5kla8e$4re@megamouth.cs.indiana.edu> References: <336e1a2b.392272@news.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: megamouth.cs.indiana.edu In article <336e1a2b.392272@news.digex.net>, Hippykill wrote: > ... >Now if I could just convince the thing to ask me who I want >to login as instead of logging in as 'me' I'd be all set... Try setting a passwd on the "me" account. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!new-news.cc.brandeis.edu!not-for-mail From: lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Sean La Shell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: replacement keyboard Date: 5 May 1997 19:15:05 GMT Organization: Brandeis University, Waltham MA Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5klbjp$kk0$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> Reply-To: lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: jensen.cc.brandeis.edu Hi, We need a new keyboard for a NeXT station slab. Can anyone tell me where to get one at a good price? Is it by any chance the same as a Mac keyboard? While we're at it, my mouse is dying, too. One of the buttons clicks multiple times for every time I click once. Our technician swapped the left and right switches so that the left one works now (since that's the one I use most). That solution is fine for now, but sometime I'll need another mouse. I assume I could get one of those from the same companies that make keyboards? Thanks in advance! -Sean La Shell lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Video capabilities for OpenStep 4.1?? Date: 5 May 1997 15:20:15 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5kktrf$56bo@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <336B75F1.42D4@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) >There is an app on my Turbo Color Slab (T.C.S.) that brings up a black >TV set. I thought to my self, "...this is probably for a cube with that >dimension board...". Is this so? How does one display video using a >T.C.S.? How about video on an Intel box running 4.1, any suggestions? Get your hands on a Digital Eye from MetaResearch. (see below). Sorry, don't know about Intel hardware. >On the T.C.S., what are some of the uses for the DSP port? Anyone out >there that makes hardware for the DSP port? I know of the following: from MetaResearch: Digital Ears - CD quality stereo input) Digital Eye/Color Digital Eye - mono/color frame grabber that plugs into the DSP. Works fine and I believe it captures to disk faster than the NeXTdimension, however it can only display at something like 5 fps so its no good for watching TV. from Ariel: I heard of something equivalent to Digital Ears. [start shameless plug] from me: Nintendo PowerGlove! - lets you attach a Nintendo PowerGlove to the DSP and use it as a 3-D mouse/virtual reality glove, whatever. Pretty cool. There's complete instructions on how to do this in PowerGloveInspector.app which I put on ftp.next.peak.org. I requires a little hacking and soldering but not much (or send me $100 and I'll hack one up for you). [end shameless plug] Hope this helps, but the fact is there was never was much out there that exploited the DSP. Pity. - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!ralph.vnet.net!hesta.com!root From: michael@hesta.com (Michael Verruto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXT Display on Mac? Date: 5 May 1997 18:53:29 GMT Organization: HPI Capital, LLC Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5klab9$k11@corporate.hesta.com> References: Reply-To: michael@hesta.com NNTP-Posting-Host: curie.hesta.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: sandyc@usit.net In "Sanford L. Clark" wrote: > ALL: > > I was wondering, Is it possible to use a Next display on a Macintosh? Is > there anadapter or something out there or are they compatible? > > -Sandy > sandyc@NO.SPAM.usit.net > Take a look here: http://www.photonweb.com We were going to use these boards for some of our NeXT monitors on PC's - Not sure they are still in business or if it will work for you. Let me know! -- "A measure of a man is what he will do for someone who can offer but nothing in return." -Unattributed. MIME & NeXTMAIL accepted Michael Styles Verruto - michael@hesta.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!nick.arc.nasa.gov!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!lore.cs.purdue.edu!thorntjm From: John Michael Thornton Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "Black Hardware" Floppy help Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:37:02 -0500 Organization: Purdue University Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lore.cs.purdue.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm a novice NeXT user who recently aquired a 040 mono cube. It currently is running NEXTSTEP 2.0 . I have 3.3 on CD but it requires you to boot off a floppy disk that was supplied with the package. Problem is my cube doesn't have a floppy drive. What kind of floppy do I need and how do I hook it up? Are there any hacks that allow me to install the OS without the use of a floppy? John Thornton #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "Black Hardware" Floppy help Date: 5 May 1997 21:21:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5klj06$fu9$1@news.digifix.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 05/05/97, John Michael Thornton wrote: > > >I'm a novice NeXT user who recently aquired a 040 mono cube. It >currently is running NEXTSTEP 2.0 . I have 3.3 on CD but it >requires you to boot off a floppy disk that was supplied with the >package. Problem is my cube doesn't have a floppy drive. What >kind of floppy do I need and how do I hook it up? Are there any >hacks that allow me to install the OS without the use of a floppy? > >John Thornton > > If you check www.next.com in NeXTanswers, there is a 3.3 Boot floppy image, and a DOS tool to write it out... So if you have access to a DOS machine (not hard to come by) then you should be set.. -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!ralph.vnet.net!hesta.com!root From: michael@hesta.com (Michael Verruto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with manual fsck? Date: 5 May 1997 20:53:14 GMT Organization: HPI Capital, LLC Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5klhbq$k11@corporate.hesta.com> Reply-To: michael@hesta.com NNTP-Posting-Host: curie.hesta.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) I have a 128mb optical drive and when you manually eject a disk while it is still mounted the disk gets corrupted slightly and will not remount again. The repair dialog box says it will not repair; years ago I learned how to manually moun the disk and run fsck...but for the life of me I cannot remember how... Could someone re-explain the process? (I will write it down this time....) Thanks. -- "A measure of a man is what he will do for someone who can offer but nothing in return." -Unattributed. MIME & NeXTMAIL accepted Michael Styles Verruto - michael@hesta.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ais.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!Vir.com!Vir.com!not-for-mail From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dean Reece please read. Date: 5 May 1997 16:58:02 -0400 Organization: Hookup Montreal, Internet Access Montreal. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5klhkq$vpg@Vir.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: server3.vir.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Dean, When I try to send you email at your old email address, it bounces, could you contact me. 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For more information please visit our web site at : http://www.australia.net.au/~apexpi/dynamail.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Dimention Color Cube For Sale Date: 7 May 1997 14:12:56 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5kq2l8$4peu@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <336fc795.36328627@news.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) sport@ucla.edu (Sid Port) wrote: >FOR SALE >NeXT dimention color cube (33mh) with everything >32&16 meg ram >1g HD >optical drive >... Hmm, the Turbo (33MHz) cube motherboard doesn't support NeXT's original optical disk. Are you _sure_ about this, or do you have a hacked cube with a second non-Turbo motherboard running the OD, or is it a non-NeXT SCSI optical drive? Please clarify. Also, your cross-post to csn.marketplace didn't mention it was a Turbo. - Gareth #################################################################### Control: cancel <5knnng$33m@sequoia.idir.net> Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!ais.net!ix.netcom.com!bounce-back From: Angel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5knnng$33m@sequoia.idir.net> Date: 07 May 97 14:05:53 GMT Organization: http://www.triplextra.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-p39.wwi.net Article cancelled by news@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!spring.edu.tw!feeder.seed.net.tw!reader.seed.net.tw!news From: paulwang Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 22:46:25 -0800 Organization: SEEDNET InterNetNews News System Lines: 20 Message-ID: <337176BF.27F8@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> References: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.67.69.108 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Maybe SGI's machine is your best choice . PAUL John Kheit wrote: > > I'm looking for the all out killer machine. Something with Ultra > Wide SCSI, a 1600X1200@24bit graphics ability, video capture, > superfast processor, all out speed machine that's likely to run > rhapsody... For development purposes. I'd love to hear any and > all recommendations. Also the same question holds for a mac laptop. > > Thanks for any and all advice! :) > -- > Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... > __________________________________________________________________ > monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK > NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net > Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit > New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Can I put an 040 motherboard into a 030 cube? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:44:13 GMT References: <5k5cu9$a1c@slip.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 In article <5k5cu9$a1c@slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: >Hi, > >Another way of asking the same question is : >are the mother connectors in the 030 cube the >same as those for an 040? > Yep. Just stick it in and away you go (after removing the '030 board first, unless you want to do surgery on the backplane.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.246.124.37!nntp.newsfirst.com!nntp.crosslink.net!not-for-mail From: greg davis Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Hp 820-70 or Epson 800 inkjets on a NeXTstation 3.1 machine Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 12:11:55 -0400 Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Lines: 25 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3370A9CB.47E7@crosslink.net> References: <01bc5a46$873f1480$d3463181@arty-s-win95.sunysb.edu> Reply-To: gregor@crosslink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.246.65.67 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.soft-sys.nextstep:3103 comp.sys.next.hardware:28673 comp.sys.next.misc:25769 comp.sys.next.software:29409 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26619 dkat wrote: > > Does anyone know if you can install an Epson or HP inkjet on a NeXTstation > (black) machine that is running 3.1 without using something like > Ghostscript (tried it - can't get it to work and it is real ugly if you are > used to NeXT or Win95)? Is there an upgrade for NeXTstep that will handle > these printers and if so what is the lowest upgrade (I don't want to change > the basic look and use of the machine since it is for someone that does not > have time to deal with the differences)? Thanks, DK One alternative is to run a Hewlett-Packard Jet Direct box out of the ethernet port. It isn't the cheapest solution, but depending which model you get (1 or 3 outputs) you can run any parallel port output printer at network transfer speeds, and any machine (if you are on a local network) can access the printer(s). GS Corp had an excellent Epson driver for the 500, and that should drive the 800 as well. The downside there is that they are no longer selling license keys for their most excellent product any longer, as far as I know. Jet Pilot is still current but I've never used it, but it will work in conjunction with the Jet Direct box. BTW, a single port box is $225 or so street price, and the EX model is about $375. Lotsa luck Gregor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "Black Hardware" Floppy help Date: 6 May 1997 03:56:05 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5kma4l$rkp@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: Reply-To: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber43.bordeaux.imaginet.fr In article John Michael Thornton writes: > > > I'm a novice NeXT user who recently aquired a 040 mono cube. It currently > is running NEXTSTEP 2.0 . I have 3.3 on CD but it requires you to boot > off a floppy disk that was supplied with the package. Problem is my cube > doesn't have a floppy drive. What kind of floppy do I need and how do I > hook it up? Are there any hacks that allow me to install the OS without > the use of a floppy? > > John Thornton Yes, it's possible to install the 3.3 release directly from the CD-ROM, but you can only do a full install this way, you cannont upgrade you 2.0 disk, because it will be re-initialized in the process. So DO backup you files before. To launch the CD-ROM installation, you only need to set the CD-ROM drive SCSI ID to 0, insert the CD-ROM, and boot the cube. And again, don't forget to backup you files and any system configuration file, applications, etc you have on your 2.0 disk: it will be re-initialized in the process. __Pascal Bourguignon__ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!usenet From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cube second internal drive: terminate? Date: 7 May 1997 19:50:50 GMT Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kqmeq$iem@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Reply-To: atl2@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: dial36.cc.lehigh.edu Hi all! I'm adding a second internal drive to my Cube. Do I yank the terminator resistors or leave them? Cheers! Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ulowell.uml.edu!news.cs.umb.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!fas-news.harvard.edu!not-for-mail From: "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: novice question Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 00:00:28 -0400 Organization: Harvard University Lines: 11 Message-ID: <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> Reply-To: moreau@fas.harvard.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: moreau.student.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hi all! Just got a NeXTstation Turbo and I'm having trouble getting it to recognize my DOS floppies. It worked the very first time I put one in but now when I put the same disk in it won't work. Any suggestions? TIA Jean #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uniserve!van-bc!ott.istar!news.istar.net!news.nstn.ca!news.dal.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!SUNqbc.risq.net!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!kant!jim From: Jim McGilvray Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cube second internal drive: terminate? Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 18:08:09 -0400 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <5kqmeq$iem@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: kant.philo.mcgill.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: jim@kant To: atl2@lehigh.edu In-Reply-To: <5kqmeq$iem@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Alex, You said, > I'm adding a second internal drive to my Cube. Do I yank the terminator > resistors or leave them? Terminate only the last drive on your internal cable. If you have a terminated drive in there, and don't know how to terminate a drive, you could move it to the end and install your new one before it (assuming it is not terminated). Make sure that you assign different scsi addresses to them (and to any external scsi devices you might have), and be sure that your boot drive has the lowest scsi number (usually 0). It's usually easy to terminate drives: typically, you have to install or remove a jumper or two. Look on your drive manufacturer's web site for the relevant setting instructions, usually accompanied by diagrams. They also provide information about scsi number settings. Scsi 0 has no jumpers; the other numbers are assigned in a pattern that looks like a mirror of a truth table. Good luck. Jim Jim McGilvray Philosophy/McGill #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd.cv.hp.com!news.vcd.hp.com!news From: Fred Schenkelberg Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: those gears for the NeXT laser printer Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:15:56 -0700 Organization: HP Vancouver Site Lines: 66 Message-ID: <33710D2C.6C74@vcd.hp.com> References: <336E9C08.29D2@vcd.hp.com> Reply-To: fms@vcd.hp.com NNTP-Posting-Host: vcsfredsc1.vcd.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C (WinNT; I) Thanks for all the help. One gentleman is sending parts to me directly, and another suggested I buy a bunch and distribute... the comment below from Printer Works lists the parts, cost and phone number... should update the FAQ (IMHO). Thanks again for all the help. Fred At 12:51 PM 5/7/97 -0800, you wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for the two gears to fix the paper advance of the last > inch on my 400dpi next laser printer. > > I'm looking for the 20 tooth gear, number RS1-0116 Price for this part is .81 , and the > 14 tooth > gear, number RS1-0132. Price for this part is .37 Both of these parts are in stock and available. Please contact our sales department at (510) 887-6116 or (800) 225-6116 to order. Dennis ================================================================= Dennis Loyer, Tech. Support | Sales: (800) 225-6116 The Printer Works, Inc. | Local/Int'l Sales: (510) 887-6116 3481 Arden Road | Technical Support: (510) 887-0234 Hayward, CA 94545 | Fax: (510) 786-0589 USA | Fax-Back System: (510) 786-0588 Visit our home page at http://www.printerworks.com/ ================================================================= Fred Schenkelberg wrote: > > Hi all, > > I called Chenesko for the gears, but they wouldn't sell the two gears I > need to repair the printer (won't advance the paper the last inch or so) > since I'm not a business, nor want to spend $50 for the first order > (gears cost about $2) > > So, anyone out there know of another source for the gears? > > I'm looking for the 20 tooth gear, number RS1-0116, and the 14 tooth > gear, number RS1-0132. Both are from Chenesko Inc. of Ronkonkoma, NY > 800-221-3516. > > thanks, > > Fred Schenkelberg > fms@vcd.hp.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!not-for-mail From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Swap Drives in A Cube Date: 6 May 1997 16:53:14 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5knnlq$53f$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: prologos.nrl.navy.mil Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28679 comp.sys.next.misc:25771 My main Fujitsu 2263 drive started playing games after 6 years of continuous spinning. (sometimes waits for aver to start etc, I'amm afraid to restart the machine). So, I ordered a couple of SCSI II new drives. The question is: Is there a procedure documented anywhere that describes a painless way to mirror the old drive to the new and swap them ? Thanks immensely for your help, --john ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2189 or -2165 | | Naval Research Laboratory | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Code 6380 |e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Washington DC 20375-5000 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil| #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!news From: Samuel Chow Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted: Cube (Any condition, Any model) Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 01:56:40 -0400 Organization: IDT Lines: 14 Message-ID: <336EC818.CCC@idt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-12.ts-1.bos.idt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17477 comp.sys.next.misc:25772 comp.sys.next.hardware:28680 Dear Netters, The subject says it all. I basically need a Cube case and the Power Supply. I can take the whole package if needed. Any condition welcome but I would at least prefer the power supply to be working. So if you have one that's collecting dust in the closet, send it my way. Thanks. Regards, Samuel Chow #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!panix!cmcl2.nyu.edu!newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu!news.cc.sunysb.edu!not-for-mail From: "dkat" Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hp 820-70 or Epson 800 inkjets on a NeXTstation 3.1 machine Date: 6 May 1997 17:55:52 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 8 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bc5a46$873f1480$d3463181@arty-s-win95.sunysb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dh70-211.dhcp.sunysb.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.soft-sys.nextstep:3104 comp.sys.next.hardware:28681 comp.sys.next.misc:25773 comp.sys.next.software:29417 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26625 Does anyone know if you can install an Epson or HP inkjet on a NeXTstation (black) machine that is running 3.1 without using something like Ghostscript (tried it - can't get it to work and it is real ugly if you are used to NeXT or Win95)? Is there an upgrade for NeXTstep that will handle these printers and if so what is the lowest upgrade (I don't want to change the basic look and use of the machine since it is for someone that does not have time to deal with the differences)? Thanks, DK #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!ncar!uchinews!news From: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu Subject: adb vs non-adb X-Nntp-Posting-Host: pierce-36.rh.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Lines: 10 Sender: jonl@absolut.foo.net Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.2.25/XEmacs 19.14 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 06:33:55 GMT I have a question regarding the Black Hardware. What exactly is this ADB thing? I know that there were both adb and non-adb systems. Which is better and what is the difference? Jon --- Jonathan B. Leffert "But on the serious three-and-a-half percent tip, 'B' is the second letter of the English Alphabet. You work it out." - Tone Def, "Fear of a Black Hat" finger -l leffert@cs.uchicago.edu for PGP public key #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.80.1.4!interaccess!usenet From: stevek@guide.chi.il.us (Steve Kacsmark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Cube Memory Question Date: 8 May 1997 02:49:28 GMT Organization: Guide Services Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5krevo$kke@nntp.interaccess.com> Reply-To: stevek@guide.chi.il.us NNTP-Posting-Host: d172.nnb.interaccess.com X-Newsreader: News for Windows NT X1.0-93 This is a very stupid question, but I need to know. My cube has 8 30 pin slotts, and what looks like a 72pin memory slot. what is the 72 pin slot for? can it be used to expand my memory, if so why have I not seen this slot mentioned anywhere? thanks steve #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Atindra Chaturvedi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dazed and Confused ! Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 22:53:42 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 16 Message-ID: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> Reply-To: atindra@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip220.newark.nj.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 8 May 1997 03:50:14 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; 68K) I purchased a NextStation Color Turbo with no memory or HD. Installed a St51080 Seagate and 2x16M SImms. On boot, I get to ROM Monitor and type bfd to boot from a floppy NS 3.3. Chugs for a few seconds and then "Exception #4 (0x10) at PC ----- and SP 0x9fff106 " Memory config shows Slot 2 and 3 (Front) with 32M PAge mode memory with an address of 0x9ffe--- !. Isnt this LESS than the SP address shown on the exception ? All other slots have no memory. Any other combination of slots for these two simms in the box does not even get the Testing system window ! Extended SCSI tests are OK. DAzed and COnfused. TIA. Atindra. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Cube Memory Question Date: 8 May 1997 03:47:41 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5krict$s5j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5krevo$kke@nntp.interaccess.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] DSP memory slots check the archives in the MusicKit site I think somewehere in there you will find references to a 56kb upgrade.. it was somewhere in the 3 digit region.. $500-700.. from UCSF.. last I heard they kinda discountinued it i think the kit is a custom made thing to start off with.. so I guess if you have the $$$ you can get someone to build the 56KB memory fr ya=) godwin Steve Kacsmark (stevek@guide.chi.il.us) wrote: : This is a very stupid question, but I need to know. : My cube has 8 30 pin slotts, and what looks like a 72pin memory slot. : what is the 72 pin slot for? can it be used to expand my memory, if so why have I not seen this : slot mentioned anywhere? : thanks : steve #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Video capabilities for OpenStep 4.1?? Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <5kktrf$56bo@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 08:31:35 GMT Lines: 14 > How about video on an Intel box running 4.1, any suggestions? The german company IPC from Muenich offers support for the FAST video boards (Screen machine, Video machine, FPS60). I have seen it. Quality is very good (better than Cube+Dimension), and the video is scalable. Check their site: www.ipc.de hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Hardware pasword question Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:01:52 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 In article , wrote: >Does anyone know how to eliminate a hardware password? I just got a few >NeXTstations in and they all have hardware passwords enabled and I, of >course, don't know what they are. > Open up the cases, take the batteries out, go for lunch, come back. They should be gone. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.inetnebr.com!netserv.unmc.edu!news.mid.net!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetInfo database read-only? Date: 7 May 1997 21:58:55 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5kqtuv$3fc@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu In article mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: > In article <336fd4ad.29438400@news.digex.net>, hippykill@my.own.bad.site > (Hippykill) wrote: > > > I just got a NextStation and I've been learning how to set it up...but > > my NetInfo database won't let me write to it...I've logged on as > > root and tried doing dwrites and using NetInfo manager and User > > Manager but I always get a message that says 'all objects are > > read only' I tried chmoding 0777 all the stuff in the /etc/netinfo In my experience, it means you are working on a NetInfo clone (a read-only copy) and not the NetInfo master of the particular netinfo database. It could also mean that the NetInfo master is simply unavailable. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!usenet.logical.net!news.dal.ca!torn!news.uunet.ca!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!supernews!NewsWatcher!user From: see@address.in.signature (Martiin-Gilles Lavoie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Wanted: Cube (Any condition, Any model) Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:49:12 -0500 Organization: Internet-Login Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <336EC818.CCC@idt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.191.6.55 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17486 comp.sys.next.misc:25774 comp.sys.next.hardware:28689 In article <336EC818.CCC@idt.net>, Samuel Chow wrote: > Dear Netters, > > The subject says it all. I basically need a Cube case and the Power > Supply. I can take the whole package if needed. Any condition > welcome but I would at least prefer the power supply to be working. > > So if you have one that's collecting dust in the closet, send it my > way. Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > Samuel Chow Orb sells Cube in working order (as well as other black equipment). They also sell parts. Check them out at www.orb.com. -- Martin-Gilles Lavoie | "No! Try not. Do! or do not mouser@zercom.net | There is no try." www.zercom.net/~mouser/ | --Yoda on error handling #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!news.fhg.de!news.iese.fhg.de!usenet From: JMD Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Found again! WebStep Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 11:59:43 +0200 Organization: Fraunhofer Gesellschaft: Institut iese Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3371A400.64E5@iese.fhg.de> References: <33701CCA.58DB@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pc40-133.iese.fhg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:29430 comp.sys.next.hardware:28690 Hello Everyone, Any news on the avialability of Sun Openstep 1.1 for Solaris? There are a few very annoying (but not critical) bugs I would love to see go away... Thanks, Jean-Marc debaud@iese.fhg.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: 9 May 1997 07:49:15 -0400 Organization: Quick and Associates Lines: 45 Message-ID: <5kv2vr$ase@papoose.quick.com> References: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com In article <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net>, John Kheit wrote: >I'm looking for the all out killer machine. Something with Ultra >Wide SCSI, a 1600X1200@24bit graphics ability, video capture, >superfast processor, all out speed machine that's likely to run >rhapsody... For development purposes. I'd love to hear any and >all recommendations. Also the same question holds for a mac laptop. I have been sitting on the fence on this issue. There are a number of *very* nice looking SMP systems from both Apple and clone vendors which support twin 604e CPUS. I think that UW SCSI cards are available for at least some of them, as add-on options, though I don't know for sure what controllers are supported. The 9600/200MP is the top of the line Apple system which would make a sweet development box. If I were to buy a single box this year through the apple developer program, it would be this one. Though I do plan on running Rhapsody as soon as I can get my hands in the initial developer release, I am leery of buying a system now for a couple of reasons. The speed of apple ROMS (used by both cloners and Apple) seems to put an upper bound on the speed of the system bus. The newer PPCP/CHRP designs which should be available over the next few months will have faster system clocks and thus better overall memory bandwidth. Since my current memory target is 128MB, I want to wait to maximize the chance that my next high end system has SDRAM. I would prefer to buy into the next generation of memory technology. If no SDRAM based system is available from apple in time to run rhapsody, I think I will buy a smaller system direct from Apple to take me through the first few months, and then buy an SMP system later in the year. Another reason for delaying my system purchase is that with PPCP systems I would have the option of occaisonally using another boot drive to run AIX. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!smartdna!news.io.com!terry From: terry@arcane.com (Terry Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: self test error on 030 cube Date: 6 May 1997 14:50:25 GMT Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. Lines: 13 Sender: terry@www.arcane.com Message-ID: Reply-To: terry@arcane.com NNTP-Posting-Host: www.arcane.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 UNIX) My old 030 cube has stopped booting. It complains of an error code 65 when I power it up. Does anybody know what error code 65 means? Thanks, Terry -- Terry Wilcox Arcane Systems Ltd. terry@arcane.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.55.3.16!news2.mnsinc.com!news1.mnsinc.com!usenet From: Johnny Waters Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT (B) MIDI interface? Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 11:27:54 -0400 Organization: iNEX Lines: 6 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <336F4DFA.22C4@inext.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: chester.internext.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; U; SunOS 5.5 sun4u) What kind of MIDI interface works with the NeXT? I am assumign that it is a serial port interface..... Can I modify a Mac midi int? thank you in advance johnny can't initialize; `disk' returns the dreaded "boot block extends beyond front porch" on my 3.2 cube. Any idea what I've done wrong? Here's what I did: 1. Tried to reformat the disk to 1024 sectors; Quantum doesn't seem to allow it (at least in their Fireball line). So I went with the factory format at 512. 2. Run scsimodes; here's the result: SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200S 512 bytes per sector 159 sectors per track 5 tracks per cylinder 6810 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 2 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 6281855 usable sectors on volume 2. Wrote a disktab label to /etc/disktab; here it is: TM3200S|TM3200S-512|QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200S-512:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6810:nt#5:ns#159:ss#512:rm#5400:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#96:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#4194304:sb#2087231:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD: 4. Tried `disk'; got the message when `disk' tried to write the label. 5. Tried cutting down on the size of the first partition and adjusting the second; same message. 6. Tried cutting down the size of the second partition; same message. 7. Quit after several hours of searching Quantum's online manual, NeXTanswers, etc., to find what I had done wrong. 8. Turned to the knowledgeable folk out there on c.s.n.hardware. Please help Thanks, Jim Jim McGilvray Philosophy/McGill #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation Turbo Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:15:54 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <5k57da$qs3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira In-Reply-To: <5k57da$qs3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Rudy -- there is a ^F and ^B in the from line of your posts... On 29 Apr 1997, it was written: > Hallo, > would anyone know if it is possible to use 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation > Turbo? I know that all the literature talks about 32MB SIMMs being the > maximum, but 64MB SIMMS seem to be newer than the sources I read. > > Thanks. I would doubt it would work... it might overload the motherboard... I've never heard of anyone having success with it, and I've heard the topic come up before, so my guess is that no, it isn't possible. The 64/simms may be newer than the lit, but that doesn't mean they are wrong ;-) TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.inetnebr.com!netserv.unmc.edu!news.mid.net!crcnews.unl.edu!manager From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 8 May 1997 18:09:19 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: Rex Dieter NNTP-Posting-Host: sting.unl.edu In article <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu writes: ny pointers would be helpful.. > > Pointer #1: > The NeXT TurboColor will be usable, the 486/66 will not. > Seriously, for a low end 486/66 run NS/OS that's usable it'll need a very > good video card, ethernet, SCSI hard disk, etc. For the same $ or less > you're be better off with a TurboColor. I would beg to differ here. In my experience, BOTH are useful, and, contrary to your comments, I find 486/66's (configured properly, of course) to be better. IN particular, a 486 with decent VLB video and disk (even IDE) performs adequately. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!205.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:32:03 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.205 > I would beg to differ here. In my experience, BOTH are useful, and, > contrary to your comments, I find 486/66's (configured properly, of course) > to be better. IN particular, a 486 with decent VLB video and disk (even > IDE) performs adequately. Maybe, but how do you get around the coolness factor. Black hardware is much cooler than Intel junk. Take this simple test: Which would you prefer to have: 1. a) 400 HP Ford Taurus b) 400 HP Dodge Viper 2. a) mansion in Beiruit b) mansion in Beverly Hills 3. a) Intel 486 b) NeXTstation It's all about the coolness factor. :-) Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.gwdg.de!not-for-mail From: Timm Wetzel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "Black Hardware" Floppy help Date: 6 May 1997 13:04:01 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5kna81$hgg$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de> References: <5klj06$fu9$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Ryan Watkins wrote: > > sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: > > > On 05/05/97, John Michael Thornton wrote: > > > > >I'm a novice NeXT user who recently aquired a 040 mono cube. It > > >currently is running NEXTSTEP 2.0 . I have 3.3 on CD but it > > >requires you to boot off a floppy disk that was supplied with the > > >package. Problem is my cube doesn't have a floppy drive. What > > >kind of floppy do I need and how do I hook it up? Are there any > > >hacks that allow me to install the OS without the use of a floppy? > > You could probably just do an upgrade instead of a clean install. But I think it did not work directly off the CD-ROM for older cubes/NS2.x (not enough CD-ROM support?). There is an UpgradePrep.app utility on the `CD-ROM Tools' floppy :^) accompanying the NS3.0 release. It replaces kernel, windowserver and boot block for 2.x systems, just enough to let you start the upgrade after a reboot. If you can get hold of this, the 3.x upgrade should work AFAIK. Timm --- Timm Wetzel Max-Planck-Institut fuer biophysikalische Chemie, Abt. 081 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!visi.com!news-out.visi.com!not-for-mail From: goldman@visi.com (Matthew Goldman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 9 May 1997 17:10:18 GMT Organization: Vector Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5kvlpq$ck8$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bambi.visi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: : : Which would you prefer to have: : : 2. : a) mansion in Beiruit : b) mansion in Beverly Hills But with the mansion in Beruit you get fireworks every night! : : : It's all about the coolness factor. :-) : : Mitch -- O O __ | \| O O /|\ -/- _ __\ O _\O |/ (/ O/ /\- /|\ / \ / ) / \ | /O _ O/_ _ O_ ^_ / \^_ )\ / \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matthew Goldman E-mail: goldman@visi.com Home: (612) 535-5220 Work: (612) 883-6640 My day today? Nothing major, just Xenon base gone, Scorpio gone, Tarrant dead, Tarrant alive and then I found out Blake sold us out. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Swap Drives in A Cube Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 6 May 1997 17:27:40 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 44 Message-ID: <5knpmc$an6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5knnlq$53f$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28701 comp.sys.next.misc:25778 John Michopoulos (yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil) wrote: > My main Fujitsu 2263 drive started playing games after 6 years of > continuous spinning. (sometimes waits for aver to start etc, I'amm afraid > to restart the machine). So, I ordered a couple of SCSI II new drives. The > question is: Is there a procedure documented anywhere that describes a > painless way to mirror the old drive to the new and swap them ? Since you're using black hardware, you can simply use "Builddisk" from the /NextAdmin folder - that's the easiest way IMHO. You can proceed as follows: 0) MAKE A BACKUP :-) 1) prepare the new disk by giving it a SCSI id above the one your internal disk has (changing the internal id if it's set to zero of course). 2) power down the cube, attach new disk. 3) power up, log in as root. When prompted wether you wish to format the new disk, click yes. 4) give it a meaningful label :-) 5) doubleclick /NextAdmin/BuildDisk.app and use it. It's really simple.. 6) powerdown, change SCSI ids so that the new disk now has a lower id, and power on again. This gives you a bootable new disk, configured to match the original one. You can then copy over directories like /LocalApps and /User by simply dragging them from the other disk. Alternatively, replace step 5 with gnutar -c --exclude /NewDisk -psf - / | (cd /NewDisk; gnutar xpf -) this will copy the complete system. Of course, there are more complex ways to go about builing your new system, but following the above steps, you are the least likely to shoot yourself in the foot. :-) Feel free to send me personal email (sans the "nospam") if you have any questions. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:35:05 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-May-97 Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for .. by bestor@cs.wisc.edu >> The Motorola CPU's are not really using clock doubling. A 33 MHz 68040 >> CPU can execute only 33 million NOP opcodes in one second, whereas a >> 486DX2/66 can execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. > > What exactly does the term "clock doubling" mean then? [honest to > Gawd question, no flame intended]. I was lead to believe it meant > doubling the external clock for internal timing. That's right, but the doubled internal clock has to apply to the instruction cycle time-- the rate at which opcodes get executed. Although a 33 MHz 68040 uses a 66 MHz clock internally (for pipeline stage timing, presumably), it only executes opcodes at 33 MHz, and not at 66 MHz. > Damn - I even went to Motorola's web page to double check this, > got it wrong anyway... > > Oh, another minor correction: > ...a 486DX2/66 _does_ execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. Modulo the L1 and L2 caches-- either you've got to have a loop which fits in the L1 cache (which involves loop control instuctions every 8K or 16K NOP instructions), or else there will be some overhead to handle cache misses. That's a very minor difference indeed, but it's why I phrased it the way I did. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Color Printers under Openstep Date: 9 May 1997 19:24:10 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kvtkq$jui@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28703 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26640 Can anyone tell me if they have success with color printers? I'm considering purchasing a color printer and I'd like recommendations. Please email me at daj@nwu.edu Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson Northwestern University #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!pegasus!kdb From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 9 May 1997 20:08:01 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pegasus.ece.utexas.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: : It's all about the coolness factor. :-) I have to agree. You're looking at such cheap hardware, why not get a well integrated, *BLACK* workstation? You get flawless CD quality sound, a built in DSP, and a small quiet box. My definition of workstation: Computers whose largest dimension is smaller that its screen diagonal. If not, it's a PC or a server. Also think about reliability. How many people are willing to depend on 6 year old PC's for their daily work vs. 6 year old NeXT Hardware? ...................................................................... : Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin : : kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 : :....................................................................: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!news.io.com!terry From: terry@arcane.com (Terry Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 9 May 1997 21:40:18 GMT Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. Lines: 15 Sender: terry@www.arcane.com Message-ID: References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Reply-To: terry@arcane.com NNTP-Posting-Host: www.arcane.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 UNIX) On 9 May 1997 20:08:01 GMT, Kurt D. Bollacker wrote: >Also think about reliability. How many people are willing to depend on >6 year old PC's for their daily work vs. 6 year old NeXT Hardware? I think it says something positive about NeXT hardware when we're favorably comparing a six year old NeXT to a newer PC. The 486 DX2/66 arrived years after the NeXTstation. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox Arcane Systems Ltd. terry@arcane.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: Daniel Shue Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Purchase a used Cube or Dump Win95 System? Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 14:32:23 -0700 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <337397E7.CC14F8F6@best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dshue.vip.best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28706 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17498 I have been wanting to get away from Windows 95 and look for a different OS. However, I havn't used unix that much, so am a little afraid of jumping into a new OS (Mach ?) when I still need a computer for school use. I've seen used NeXT Cubes running anywhere from $400-$600. At first this seems to be the best advantage because I can always resell it. If I purchase the OpenStep 4.x, which I am assuming will run around $300 for educational use, I would lose my exiting system. (166, 64M, 2.5G, 8x CDROM, 17" Viewsonic). The third thing I was thinking about is posting a message to see if anyone was interested in trading an Cube for my IBM Thinkpad (Model 300). What software will I be able to run? How compatiable is the old/new OS with exiting Unix software? Can anyone direct me in the right direction or have any suggestions? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news.voicenet.com!omni1!dwright1 From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Purchase a used Cube or Dump Win95 System? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 9 May 1997 23:59:36 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5l0dp8$78e$1@news2.voicenet.com> References: <337397E7.CC14F8F6@best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: omni1.voicenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28707 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17501 Daniel, Why don't you just buy openstep for Intel? It wil lscream on your machine......just make sure your components are compatable. -Darren Daniel Shue (dshue@best.com) wrote: : I have been wanting to get away from Windows 95 and look for a different : OS. However, I havn't used unix that much, so am a little afraid of : jumping into a new OS (Mach ?) when I still need a computer for school : use. I've seen used NeXT Cubes running anywhere from $400-$600. At : first this seems to be the best advantage because I can always resell : it. If I purchase the OpenStep 4.x, which I am assuming will run around : $300 for educational use, I would lose my exiting system. (166, 64M, : 2.5G, 8x CDROM, 17" Viewsonic). The third thing I was thinking about is : posting a message to see if anyone was interested in trading an Cube for : my IBM Thinkpad (Model 300). What software will I be able to run? How : compatiable is the old/new OS with exiting Unix software? : Can anyone direct me in the right direction or have any suggestions? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news.ttu.edu!usenet From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXt Laser Printer - Manual Paper Feed Problems Date: 9 May 1997 22:58:57 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5l0a7h$osb@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Reply-To: seran@osci.me.ttu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: rayleigh.me.ttu.edu i have a 400 dpi NeXT laser printer connected to my NeXT turbo slab. while printing, when i select the manual feed option from the print panel and don't feed the paper manully on time, the printer automatically feeds from the input paper tray instead of giving me the message 'your printer is waiting for paper'. also lately, i am not able to manually feed the paper and i get the message 'paper is jammed in your printer'. i would really appreciate it if someone out there could help me out. thanks, hs #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Martin Lightheart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Creating a new bootable HD Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 20:13:52 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 6 Message-ID: <3373BDC0.7981@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb314.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 10 May 1997 00:13:14 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Hi all, How do I create a second bootable HD? The NS3.3 has been loaded on to a 1GB drive and I want to migrate it to a 2GB drive. So what do I do? Martin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Martin Lightheart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ROM commands? Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 20:16:04 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb314.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 10 May 1997 00:15:26 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Hi again, Is there documentation on what commands are available to you while your are in ROM on a turbo color slab? I have picked up a few, but would like to have more information. Martin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news.dkrz.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!not-for-mail From: Marcus -Sebastian Martens Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q:Ess-1788 technical references? Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 02:35:12 +0200 Organization: Uni-Hamburg Lines: 2 Message-ID: <3373C2C0.C96@rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Reply-To: pe7a001@rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de NNTP-Posting-Host: max-145.public.uni-hamburg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) would like to programm this 16 bit soundcard directly so that I can get an 16 bit output in dos! Who may help? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!xfer.kren.nm.kr!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Rich Markle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: iRCam Board? Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 16:17:01 -0700 Organization: Code Monkeys of America Lines: 3 Message-ID: <3373B06D.4688@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool065-max1.la-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28712 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17502 Does anyone have the iRCAM board? And if so how much does it cost? -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!iagnews.iagnet.net!tlawriw From: jmajor@cdsnet.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs Subject: WIRELESS INTERNET ACCESS############################ Date: Sat, 10 May 97 00:26:34 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5l0f72$e0m$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm7-29.stratos.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.aol-sucks:123699 alt.bbs.internet:60620 alt.business:244946 alt.business.misc:313127 alt.business.multi-level:287931 alt.internet.access.wanted:46169 alt.internet.services:100701 alt.misc:61170 alt.online-service:24490 alt.online-service.america-online:21325 alt.online-service.compuserve:19299 alt.online-service.freenet:2911 alt.online-service.genie:7689 alt.online-service.microsoft:6625 alt.online-service.prodigy:36473 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:73080 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:28880 comp.sys.mac.portables:87470 comp.sys.misc:5739 comp.sys.next.hardware:28713 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17504 comp.sys.next.misc:25783 misc.entrepreneurs:275454 Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 10 May 1997 01:34:39 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5l0jbf$48a8@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f181-059.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) >That's right, but the doubled internal clock has to apply to the >instruction cycle time-- the rate at which opcodes get executed. >Although a 33 MHz 68040 uses a 66 MHz clock internally (for pipeline >stage timing, presumably), it only executes opcodes at 33 MHz, and not >at 66 MHz. If the pipeline is clocked at 66MHz then isn't the execution rate the same, assuming the ideal that instruction can be fed into the pipeline one per cycle? My impression from the 68040 User Manual was the "processor clock" was 66MHz and the "bus clock" was 33MHz, at least that is what it said. >> Oh, another minor correction: >> ...a 486DX2/66 _does_ execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. > >Modulo the L1 and L2 caches-- you've got to have a loop which fits in >the L1 cache... Sigh - another good joke gone to waste... - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: hippykill@my.own.bad.site (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NetInfo database read-only? Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 01:06:25 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <336fd4ad.29438400@news.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn001254.belt.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 I just got a NextStation and I've been learning how to set it up...but my NetInfo database won't let me write to it...I've logged on as root and tried doing dwrites and using NetInfo manager and User Manager but I always get a message that says 'all objects are read only' I tried chmoding 0777 all the stuff in the /etc/netinfo directory, but that didn't work... Any ideas on this one? I haven't found the answer in the FAQ or NextAnswers... mikelea@access.digex.net "listen to your children instead of dissin' them!"-KRS-ONE "rush limbaugh, i'll hit that pig with an axe..." -Channel Live #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!news From: Samuel Chow Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Purchase a used Cube or Dump Win95 System? Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:46:53 -0400 Organization: IDT Lines: 40 Message-ID: <3373FDA5.6833@idt.net> References: <337397E7.CC14F8F6@best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-42.ts-1.bos.idt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28716 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17507 Daniel Shue wrote: > > I have been wanting to get away from Windows 95 and look for a different > OS. However, I havn't used unix that much, so am a little afraid of > jumping into a new OS (Mach ?) when I still need a computer for school To learn UNIX, I recommend that you use Linux. Boy, you learn some much just by installing it. Actually, the installation isn't that difficult if you get some certain Linux distribution like Red Hat which I strongly recommend and Info-Magic. Also, there is a Mach MicroKernel based Linux available for the PC, which would satisfy the requirement of yours in using a Mach based OS. > use. I've seen used NeXT Cubes running anywhere from $400-$600. At > first this seems to be the best advantage because I can always resell > it. If I purchase the OpenStep 4.x, which I am assuming will run around > $300 for educational use, I would lose my exiting system. (166, 64M, Keep in mind that these cubes are monochrome. To add colors, you have to add the Dimension board which would cost $300 to $500 more and they don't come by easily. > 2.5G, 8x CDROM, 17" Viewsonic). The third thing I was thinking about is > posting a message to see if anyone was interested in trading an Cube for > my IBM Thinkpad (Model 300). What software will I be able to run? How > compatiable is the old/new OS with exiting Unix software? With your PC system, it will run OpenStep/Mach beautifully. 64 Mb, 2.5Gb, and nice 16-bit color, that is a good setup. It will run significantly faster than the cube. Later, Samuel Chow #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Atindra Chaturvedi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dazed and Confused ! Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 23:59:29 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 5 Message-ID: <337400B1.1EC8@mindspring.com> References: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> Reply-To: atindra@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip129.newark.nj.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 10 May 1997 04:55:53 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; 68K) Thanx to all who answered. The problem was fixed when I put the two 16M simms in the slots NEAREST to the power supply. 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We do authorize and encourage the forwarding of this message to interested parties, for the purpose of informing them of Internet Communications Inc. services. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Martin Lightheart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help Configuring Quantum/Apple 700MB Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 04:09:37 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33742D41.65E1@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kbs3m.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 10 May 1997 08:08:59 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) I been trying to get this drive to boot. I initialized and built the disk which was attached as id 1. I changed the id to 0 and attached the drive to my turbo color slab (TCS). I power up the machine and when it gets to the loading from disk, it doesn't boot. But the drive works fine as the second drive. The specs I got on the drive that it is an Apple 700MB drive built by Quantum. It seems it is a version of Quantum's Lightning Model. LT70S026. Any Ideas? Martin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXt Laser Printer - Manual Paper Feed Problems Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 23:05:40 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <5l0a7h$osb@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: seran@osci.me.ttu.edu In-Reply-To: <5l0a7h$osb@ttacs7.ttu.edu> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Checkout my web page that covers just this subject... http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: 7 May 1997 05:36:13 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) I'm looking for the all out killer machine. Something with Ultra Wide SCSI, a 1600X1200@24bit graphics ability, video capture, superfast processor, all out speed machine that's likely to run rhapsody... For development purposes. I'd love to hear any and all recommendations. Also the same question holds for a mac laptop. Thanks for any and all advice! :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. 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Box 248 Lake Village, IN 46349 USA phone 219-992-2413 fax 219-992-2644 visit our website http://www.centralcontrolsystems.com/saylordesign/photo/prolab.htm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: adb vs non-adb Date: Tue, 06 May 97 23:51:06 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5kog5m$j9k@news.jump.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 ADB is for Apple Desktop Bus (ie, you can use standard Apples Stuff (keyboards, mice) with the NeXT. In article , leffert@cs.uchicago.edu wrote: >I have a question regarding the Black Hardware. What exactly is this >ADB thing? I know that there were both adb and non-adb systems. >Which is better and what is the difference? > >Jon >--- >Jonathan B. Leffert >"But on the serious three-and-a-half percent tip, 'B' is the second letter >of the English Alphabet. You work it out." - Tone Def, "Fear of a Black Hat" >finger -l leffert@cs.uchicago.edu for PGP public key Matt please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!NERCWINNT2!yorick.nerc.com!luomat From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: The back porch problem Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 18:23:43 -0400 References: Reply-To: luomat@peak.org To: Jim McGilvray In-Reply-To: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 19 > I've got a new Quantum Fireball 3.2GB disk that I can't initialize; `disk' > returns the dreaded "boot block extends beyond front porch" on my 3.2 > cube. Any idea what I've done wrong? You've got to partition the disk.. I'm not sure exactly how but it's an FAQ so you can probably find it in dejanews... TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.253.4.5!news.bridge.net!news From: jd farrell Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level,alt.make.money.fast,alt.business.multi-level.exceltel,alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs Subject: Distributors Wanted! 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Find Complete Details And Application At: http://www.freeyellow.com/members/brock/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Martin Lightheart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HD List For Black HW Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 11:39:00 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 16 Message-ID: <33749694.7AB1@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kbs3m.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 10 May 1997 15:38:22 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Hey all, Is there a list of HDs that you can use on Black Wardware? I know I saw on the FAQ that there were some HDs that were not recommended. The Seagate ST51080N was listed. But I have one on my Turbo Color Slab (TCS) and it works fine and came with the system. I am having trouble with a Quantum OEM drive (Apple 700MB). It seems to be one of Quantum's lightning series, but my drive is 700MB not 730MB. I did a successful build on the disk, rejumpered the drive to be 0 (like my boot drive), attached only this drive to the box, tried to boot it, NO LUCK... It knew the drive was there, but the reading from disk screen stayed there and that little drive on the screen, kept on spinning. Nothing... I know other people have had troubles booting other HDs, just look at some of the recent posts. But what the word on this? Thanks all. Martin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!serra.unipi.it!mikasa.iol.it!news From: "Antini Gianni" Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,microsoft.public.hardware Subject: CDD2600+Advansys+GEAR 4.0 Date: 10 May 1997 11:37:22 GMT Organization: Italia Online Lines: 29 Message-ID: <022c7aad$7b179a40$LocalHost@isa> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.45.10.61 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.periphs.scsi:77733 comp.publish.cdrom.hardware:33890 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom:48448 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:108777 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:56210 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:73168 comp.sys.next.hardware:28730 I have a big problem! This is my computer configuations: Pentium 120 48 Mb RAM HD 1600 My MAXTOR (Master) CD-ROM IDE (SLAVE) Award BIOS Vers. 4.50g Genius ESS1868 I have installed the SCSI card AdvanSys ISA PnP connect with PHILIPS CDD2600. Win95 (Standard) works well with CDD2600 but just as it was only a CDROM (reader). The GEAR software does't start, It stops with then message: "Testing unit online..........." I have also used Easy-CD Pro Vers. 1.1 but it stops too (also with the new .DLL). How can I configure the SCSI card? How can I configure the DIP-SWITCH on the CDD2600? What are the possible components who causes difficulty? There are other possible problems? All helps are precious. Write me by E-MAIL, please. Excuse me for my orrible english!!!! Gianni Antini. Florence, Italy. antini_walter@iol.it P.S. If you help me...... I send a postcard from Florence. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!usenet From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ultra SCSI and NeXT Turbo Date: 10 May 1997 16:33:19 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5l280f$caa$1@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: romdas.hip.berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 1.66 $] NF-D-00021 Is there any problem using an "Ultra SCSI" hard drive in a NeXT Turbo computer. It's 50-pin, and all that, but hey. I'm thinking about a 2110MB Quantum [TM32110S] - Ultra SCSI interface - 10.5ms, 4500rpm, 128K buffer, etc. Are there any problems that I can expect, or will this be (crossing his fingers), a "plug-and-play" sort of thing. Thanks. John #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ROM commands? Date: 10 May 1997 17:11:09 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5l2a7d$2evi@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f180-080.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I posted a fairly extensive list of all the kernel flags I could find, most of which I have no idea what they do. Should be on peak.org. - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!CTCnet!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!usenet From: sport@ucla.edu (Sid Port) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Dimention Color Cube For Sale Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 00:12:18 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Lines: 14 Message-ID: <336fc795.36328627@news.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts25-15.wla.ts.ucla.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 FOR SALE NeXT dimention color cube (33mh) with everything 32&16 meg ram 1g HD optical drive bw & 17" color NeXT monitors Zykel Modem bw laser printer Practically all Next compatible software Perfect working condition $2000 or bo Sid Reply to sport@ucla.edu (310)454-4594 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Belgium.EU.net!news From: Marc.Lognoul@ping.be (Marc Lognoul) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with modems and Faxmodems Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:58 GMT Organization: CARMA S.P.R.L. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3375cec4.115975331@news.eunet.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup025.liege.eunet.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Hello I'm a newbie in the NeXt community and I 'm experiencing some troubles with my modems when I try to connect them to my Turbo color slab. In the print manager I creat a new fax modem chosing any of the both default modem (HSD and interfa) and it never send or receive properly faxes. My modems are: Zoom V34X and US Robotics courrier V34 I'm also looking for a communication program able to send/receive with Zmodem protocol. Can someone help me? 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For more Information and Free Demo: http://www.freeyellow.com/members/concorde/index.html ********************************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: tobias@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (template) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep on TravelMate 6020 Date: 7 May 1997 13:10:08 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5kpuvg$g7n$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: kermit.fb10.tu-berlin.de Keywords: next, notebook, TI hello, has anyone experience with nextstep on a Texas Instrument notebook, especially the TravelMate 6020? -- cheers Tobias Schrag #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel Date: 10 May 1997 17:22:38 GMT Control: cancel Message-ID: Sender: star@custom X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 12:14:39 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> <337176BF.27F8@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: <337176BF.27F8@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> On Wed, 7 May 1997, paulwang wrote: > Maybe SGI's machine is your best choice . I believe he specified that he wanted to be able to run Rhapsody for development purposes. Unless SGI and Apple merge anytime soon, the only OS one would be running on an SGI would be IRIX. -Isaac #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Creating a new bootable HD Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3373BDC0.7981@lei.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:59:31 GMT Lines: 19 In article <3373BDC0.7981@lei.com> Martin Lightheart writes: > Hi all, > > How do I create a second bootable HD? The NS3.3 has been loaded on to a > 1GB drive and I want to migrate it to a 2GB drive. So what do I do? > Easy as pie! Attach the drive (set to SCSI-1, asynch; right SCSI-Id; properly terminated). Switch on the machine and answer 'yes' when asked about initialization of a new disk. Then login as 'root' and run BuildDisk.app... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Date: 11 May 1997 01:03:29 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-by: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: Duncan Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5l2o7g$sjq@lal.interserv.com> Control: cancel <5l2o7g$sjq@lal.interserv.com> X-No-Archive: Yes X-Spam-Type: DYNAMAIL Lines: 4 DYNAMAIL spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: FREE at home bussiness Total spams this type to date: 11292 Total this spam type for this user to date: 2296 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.96.36.2!wizard.pn.com!news From: aks@vnp.com (Allan Schougaard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Swap Drives in A Cube Date: 7 May 1997 18:19:28 GMT Organization: Pioneer Global Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5kqh3g$gbf@wizard.pn.com> References: <5knpmc$an6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> Reply-To: aks@vnp.com NNTP-Posting-Host: athens.vnp.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28740 comp.sys.next.misc:25794 In article <5knpmc$an6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) writes: > John Michopoulos (yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil) wrote: > > My main Fujitsu 2263 drive started playing games after 6 years of > > continuous spinning. (sometimes waits for aver to start etc, I'amm afraid > > to restart the machine). So, I ordered a couple of SCSI II new drives. The > > question is: Is there a procedure documented anywhere that describes a > > painless way to mirror the old drive to the new and swap them ? > > Since you're using black hardware, you can simply use "Builddisk" > from the /NextAdmin folder - that's the easiest way IMHO. You can > proceed as follows: .. stuff deleted ... > Alternatively, replace step 5 with > gnutar -c --exclude /NewDisk -psf - / | (cd /NewDisk; gnutar xpf -) > this will copy the complete system. dump/restore might also be a way to preceed. --Allan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5l2koe$ipl$4736@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Date: 11 May 1997 03:09:03 GMT Control: cancel <5l2koe$ipl$4736@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Message-ID: Sender: inet97@ameritech.net X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 2 Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: EMAILRICHES Original Subject: Make Money With Your Computer! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone else using a Seagate 2.1 GB Barracuda, Narrow? Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:37:56 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 14 Message-ID: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat If so, please let me know if you were able to get one NeXTStep partition on it. Mine comes out to 2064MB when formatted, so I was wondering if this is small enough to fit under the 2.0 gig limit? Any help appreciated TjL #################################################################### From: mark@sfmny.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fast SCSI 2 disk drives..? Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 18:00:34 GMT Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3370c1ba.427727599@raptor> NNTP-Posting-Host: quantum.sfmny.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.touch.net!news.infostar.de!news2.planetc.com!news.planetc.com!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!newsfeed.gte.net!uunet!not-for-mail Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26655 comp.sys.next.hardware:28742 Hello all, I need to buy a new disk drive for one of my NEXTStation's. Mostly there are Fast SCSI 2 disk drives on the market today along with Fast-Wide/SCSI 3, etc.. Will Fast SCSI2 disks work with the older NeXT hardware? The machines are NeXTStation Turbo ADB. I read in NeXTAnswers that the M68k driver does not recognise the "fast" SCSI implementation. Does anybody have any experience with this? It has been too long since I have had to work on my NeXT hardware. Do I have to buy a disk that is just SCSI 2 and NOT Fast SCSI 2? thanks in advance Mark LeScoezec Network Administrator Soros Fund Management mark@sfmny.com NO JUNKMAIL PLEASE #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ott.istar!n4tor.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <851862718425@digifix.com> Date: 11 May 1997 03:58:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <8856863323226@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:67523 comp.sys.next.announce:4186 comp.sys.next.hardware:28743 comp.sys.next.software:29470 comp.sys.next.misc:25796 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26656 comp.sys.next.bugs:4305 comp.sys.next.programmer:24341 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!chippy.visi.com!visi.com!news-out.visi.com!not-for-mail From: goldman@visi.com (Matthew Goldman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Request for NeXT printer cable pin-outs Date: 7 May 1997 20:47:52 GMT Organization: Vector Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5kqppo$8t8$1@darla.visi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bambi.visi.com Keywords: printer cable pin-outs Hi! I'm looking for the pin-outs for the next printer cable. I looked through the FAQs but couldn't find the information. Any help would be appreciated. By the way, I have black cube hardware. Matt -- O O __ | \| O O /|\ -/- _ __\ O _\O |/ (/ O/ /\- /|\ / \ / ) / \ | /O _ O/_ _ O_ ^_ / \^_ )\ / \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.chicago.cic.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!not-for-mail From: "Scott A. Perry" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Trying to install NextStep 3.3 on Sparc 5 w/dual ethernet Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 02:19:46 -0500 Organization: OS-Knight Corp. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <33757312.1411@os-knight.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sperry-2.pr.mcs.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:29471 comp.sys.next.misc:25797 comp.sys.next.hardware:28745 Help, I am trying to install NextStep 3.3 for Sparc on a Sparc 5 that has a SCSI/Ethernet SBus card in it. I try booting and it hangs on the network interface initialization. Are there any drivers that I can apply to get past this hump? (Removing the SBus card is not an option). Thanks in Advance. Desperately Seeking Solution, Scott A. Perry sperry@os-knight.com P.S. Could you please email me as I don't get a chance to read this group as often as I'd like (I just can't seem to get away from those 4 hours/night of sleep). Again, thanks. Scott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsfeed2!jump.net!wildfire From: mseibert@nospam_ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dazed and Confused ! Date: Thu, 08 May 97 12:30:29 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5ksh1j$2f9@news.jump.net> References: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildfire.healthway.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 I don't know why this is, but I also had trouble. I got the specs for the Stations, and they show a Max Ram of 32 (4 x 8MB). 8MB Simms will work fine, but I ahve never gotten 16MB sticks to go. I also got this same (or close to it) error in the Rom Window. My suggestion (for ease of use) is to get 8 MB Sticks. They are pretty cheap now, and give them a try. Matt In article <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com>, atindra@mindspring.com wrote: >I purchased a NextStation Color Turbo with no memory or HD. Installed a >St51080 Seagate and 2x16M SImms. On boot, I get to ROM Monitor and type >bfd to boot from a floppy NS 3.3. Chugs for a few seconds and then >"Exception #4 (0x10) at PC ----- and SP 0x9fff106 " >Memory config shows Slot 2 and 3 (Front) with 32M PAge mode memory with >an address of 0x9ffe--- !. Isnt this LESS than the SP address shown on >the exception ? All other slots have no memory. Any other combination of >slots for these two simms in the box does not even get the Testing >system window ! >Extended SCSI tests are OK. > >DAzed and COnfused. > >TIA. > >Atindra. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Trying to install NextStep 3.3 on S Date: 11 May 1997 09:04:11 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <19970511130401.JAA19175@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <33757312.1411@os-knight.com> the sbus ethernet card on the sparc 5 runs a standard solaris driver, pre installed. 1. try doing a boot -r from the ok prompt, to add the driver maybe. 2. antares makes an sbus card with driver for $500 if all else fails. good luck UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dazed and Confused ! Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 06:08:19 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Atindra Chaturvedi In-Reply-To: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Make sure you are using SIMMs in pairs, starting with the socket nearest the power supply... and the pairs should be the same as each other (ie each one in the pair should be identical) Don't know if this is the problem or not... TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI and NeXT Turbo Date: 11 May 1997 09:05:23 GMT Lines: 7 Message-ID: <19970511130500.JAA19198@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5l280f$caa$1@agate.berkeley.edu> the ultra scsi drive runs in scsi 2 mode if attached to a scsi 2 controller. quantum fireball might be a better choice at $395 UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Printers under Openstep Date: 11 May 1997 09:07:47 GMT Lines: 6 Message-ID: <19970511130700.JAA19230@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5kvtkq$jui@news.acns.nwu.edu> go to www.lexmark.com UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news.voicenet.com!not-for-mail From: Hunter Modes Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 11:19:38 -0400 Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> Reply-To: hmodes@cdnow.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ivyland270.voicenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) i'm looking to experiment with NeXT 3.3 or 4.x.. i'm wondering what the pro/cons are for running it on a next turbostation color vs. a 486/66 intel machine.. any pointers would be helpful.. please reply via e-mail thanks! hmodes@cdnow.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!news2.interlog.com!news.interlog.com!ip220-117.cc.interlog.com!user From: "Colin Foster" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which Toner Cartridge for N2000? Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 10:39:42 -0400 Organization: InterLog Internet Services Lines: 2 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip220-117.cc.interlog.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) What type of toner cartridge does an N2000 Laser Printer take? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dazed and Confused ! Date: 8 May 1997 15:53:26 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5ksstm$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> <5ksh1j$2f9@news.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) >I don't know why this is, but I also had trouble. I got the specs for the >Stations, and they show a Max Ram of 32 (4 x 8MB). 8MB Simms will work fine, >but I have never gotten 16MB sticks to go. All Turbos (color and mono) can handle up to 128MB consisting of four 32MB SIMMs. They have four 72-pin SIMM slots, two banks, two per bank. Both slots in a bank must be filled with the same parts (no parity, speeds, etc). Bank 1 is the two SIMM slots nearest the power supply and must be filled first. >>Memory config shows Slot 2 and 3 (Front) with 32M PAge mode memory with >>an address of 0x9ffe--- !. Sounds like you stuck them in the wrong two slots! Two SIMMs will _only_ work in slot 1 and 2 nearest the power supply. >>Any other combination of >>slots for these two simms in the box does not even get the Testing >>system window ! Don't know about this - are you sure you tried the first two slots? - Gareth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed2.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!news From: xx yy Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: next newbie Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:10:41 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Lines: 16 Message-ID: <33766E11.5D7D@group.azn.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: tr2f-069.azn.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) Hi all, I'm a newbie NeXT user. I just got a Cube 040 with a CDROM drive and an optical drive but no hard disk, running NEXTSTEP 2.1. I have a CD Rom for a 3.0 upgrade that comes with a floppy containing the 3.0 upgradeprepare.app. Problem: my Cube won't recognize the CDRom drive. It sees a device at sc0 but considers it a SCSI disk. It won't show up in the workspace either. The upgrade prepare app doesn't work either. How do I solve this? Should I get a hard drive (the Manual suggests that you can only add SCSI devices if you have an internal drive). If so: internal or external, what type? If internal, how do I put it in? Other problem: how do I acquire NEXTSTEP 3.3? Can somebody help me with all this? Thank you beforehand!! Maurice van Steensel M. VanSteensel@antrg.azn.nl (Holland) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: ROM commands? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 10:17:29 GMT Lines: 16 In article <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> Martin Lightheart writes: > Hi again, > > Is there documentation on what commands are available to you while your > are in ROM on a turbo color slab? I have picked up a few, but would > like to have more information. > Typing a question mark or the word 'help' gives you a listing of all synopses on screen. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: novice question Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:50:50 GMT Lines: 18 In article <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." writes: > Hi all! > > Just got a NeXTstation Turbo and I'm having trouble getting it to > recognize my DOS floppies. It worked the very first time I put one in > but now when I put the same disk in it won't work. > You didn't eject the floppy by sticking a pin into the manual eject hole, didn't you? What is the console log (Alternate-C in Workspace) telling when you put the floppy in? Does it work after login again? Or after a reboot? -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!news From: xx yy Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New attempt Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 19:02:59 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Lines: 21 Message-ID: <33767A53.21B8@group.azn.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: tr2f-069.azn.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) Trying again cos I didn't see my message appear: Hi all, I recently bought a NeXTCube 040 running NeXTSTEP 2.1 . I also have a NeXT CD-ROM player. Problem: the Cube won't recognize the CDROM drive. The Cube does not have a hard disk but boots from the optical, by the way so perhaps that is the problem. Anyway, the ROM monitor says at startup that it sees a CDROM drive at sc0 sg0 target5, so it looks like it sees a HD not a CD player. After that I get a message that it doesn't recognize the disk label so it really looks like ti expects a HD at sc0. I have a NEXT 3.0 upgrade on CDROM that I would very much like to use but I don't know how at the moment. Can anyone help me? The manual suggests that I need an internal HD for external SCSI devices to work. Is that so or can I (in case I need a HD which I do anyway) just daisy-chain the lot. I'm stuck so I would very much appreciate any help. Finally: does anybody know how I can get NEXTSTEP 3.3? Thanks a lot Maurice van Steensel #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: replacement keyboard Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5klbjp$kk0$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:57:06 GMT Lines: 31 In article <5klbjp$kk0$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Sean La Shell) writes: > Hi, > > We need a new keyboard for a NeXT station slab. Can anyone > tell me where to get one at a good price? Is it by any > chance the same as a Mac keyboard? > Mac mice and keybords work on ADB machines only. > While we're at it, my mouse is dying, too. One of the > buttons clicks multiple times for every time I click once. > Our technician swapped the left and right switches so that > the left one works now (since that's the one I use most). > That solution is fine for now, but sometime I'll need > another mouse. I assume I could get one of those from the > same companies that make keyboards? > Try c.s.n.marketplace, first. Replacement mice are MS Bus Mice with modified pinout. DancingBear used to sell Logitec mice with adaptor plugs. A schematic for the adaptor is in the FAQ on Peanuts Official hardware support is via BellAtlantic, but that costs an arm and a leg, AFAIK. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Request for NeXT printer cable pin-outs Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5kqppo$8t8$1@darla.visi.com> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:02:19 GMT Lines: 17 In article <5kqppo$8t8$1@darla.visi.com> goldman@visi.com (Matthew Goldman) writes: > Hi! I'm looking for the pin-outs for the next printer cable. > I looked through the FAQs but couldn't find the information. > Any help would be appreciated. By the way, I have black > cube hardware. > 1 = Clk, 2 = Data in, 3 = Data out1, 4 = Data out2, 5 = Pwr enable, 6-9 = Gnd The thing is a custom synch cirquit with high speed differencial output. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Fast SCSI 2 disk drives..? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3370c1ba.427727599@raptor> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:00:45 GMT Lines: 34 In article <3370c1ba.427727599@raptor> mark@sfmny.com writes: > Hello all, > > I need to buy a new disk drive for one of my NEXTStation's. Mostly > there are Fast SCSI 2 disk drives on the market today along with > Fast-Wide/SCSI 3, etc.. Will Fast SCSI2 disks work with the older > NeXT hardware? The machines are NeXTStation Turbo ADB. I read in > NeXTAnswers that the M68k driver does not recognise the "fast" SCSI > implementation. Does anybody have any experience with this? It has > been too long since I have had to work on my NeXT hardware. Do I have > to buy a disk that is just SCSI 2 and NOT Fast SCSI 2? > Might be the answer is not specific enough, i.e. answering "which drive to buy" but... All black machines of all models only support SCSI-1, asynch operation. Any drive will work that allows for this mode. If the device isn't automatically disabling SCSI-2 commands (or has no switch to do so) the device will cause problems during simultaneous SCSI operations. If it doesn't allow for asynch mode the drive will not be bootable and can cause spurious driver problems that might render the OS inoperable. Unfortunately, you can find modern SCSI disk drives that automagically disable unsupported features and some who simply refuse to downgrade by any means. As there is no easy method to tell whether a certain drive might or might not work, ask you dealer for SCSI-1, asynch mode and refuse to buy from anybody who doesn't guaranty for this feature or let you turn in the drive with full refund after some trial period. And make sure you get a sufficient data sheet... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NetInfo database read-only? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <336fd4ad.29438400@news.digex.net> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:17:05 GMT Lines: 26 In article <336fd4ad.29438400@news.digex.net> hippykill@my.own.bad.site (Hippykill) writes: > I just got a NextStation and I've been learning how to set it up...but > my NetInfo database won't let me write to it...I've logged on as > root and tried doing dwrites and using NetInfo manager and User > Manager but I always get a message that says 'all objects are > read only' I tried chmoding 0777 all the stuff in the /etc/netinfo > directory, but that didn't work... Any ideas on this one? > I haven't found the answer in the FAQ or NextAnswers... > NetInfo has a feature that allows the NI admin to grant superuser rights to a local admin without granting NI admin rights or only restricted ones. This is done by means of the '_writers' and '_writers_password' properties of the corresponding NI directory, AFAIK. If the NI admin happened to not give you the password I have no proven method other than replacing the NI database with a pristine one out of /usr/templates/client/etc/netinfo (but this will make you loose all site customization!). Anyway, you might want to try whether 'nidump' and 'niload' doesn't do the trick to remove those properties. But Marc Majka might have anticipated that break in attempt and included a check into 'niload' also ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!bankamerica.com!usenet From: John Walter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: 11 May 1997 20:26:09 GMT Organization: A Corporation who shall Remain Nameless Lines: 2 Message-ID: <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: overseer.bankamerica.com Has anyone had any luck getting Nextstep or Openstep (Mach) running on the Compaq Deskpro 6000? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: 11 May 1997 21:16:51 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> References: <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-tnt1s190.erols.com X-Received-On: 11 May 1997 21:16:51 GMT X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: John Walter In <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> John Walter wrote: > Has anyone had any luck getting Nextstep or Openstep (Mach) running on the > Compaq Deskpro 6000? > Yes, very succesfully . Be sure to use the adaptec 3.37 driver from NextAnswers: http://www.next.com. I have not been able to use the builtin network card yet, waiting to here back from next on the drivers for the netflex nic. Scott Turner FirstSight Inc. http://www.1stsight.com vision@1stsight.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: Alex Hartley Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software password Date: 11 May 1997 15:23:01 -0700 Organization: Alex Hartley and Associates Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3376477D.6A4D@primenet.com> Reply-To: alexhart@alexhart.com X-Posted-By: @204.245.11.220 (alexhrt) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28764 comp.sys.next.software:29480 I am changing my NeXT '30 cube motherboard. The new board used to boot from the ethernet and has a password. I can't make it boot from the hard drive because I don't know the password. Is there a way around this? Thanks! Alex #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:36:18 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-May-97 Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for .. by bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.ed > Its not a well known fact but the 68040 CPU does clock doubling; i.e. > a 33MHz 68040 has an external bus clock speed of 33MHz but an internal > processor clock speed of 66MHz. The Motorola CPU's are not really using clock doubling. A 33 MHz 68040 CPU can execute only 33 million NOP opcodes in one second, whereas a 486DX2/66 can execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. It is true that m68k uses an internal clock rate double that of the external interface (the bus speed), but this results from a more RISC-like design with a relatively low CPI (cycles per instruction) of around 3, whereas the '486 has a CPI of closer to 10 or so. > The 68040 is a better CPU than the 486 anyway (IMHO) so thinking your 486/66 > is "twice as fast" as a 68040/33 is _completely_ wrong. Oh, definitely-- a 33 MHz 68040 provides roughly similar performance to a 486DX2/66. Trying to make performance comparisions based on clock speed without considering CPI is completely futile. Not that considering CPI helps that much either; the only reliable benchmark for judging performance is timing the real world task(s) that the two systems will perform. MIPS, MFLOPS, Dhrystones, Whetstones are all but useless, and even the SPECmark tests aren't that meaningful considering the games chip manufacturers and OS vendors play with specialized, hand-tuned compilers. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Martin Lightheart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB IO box for NeXT? Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:36:53 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 8 Message-ID: <33764A05.6654@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kbs3r.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 11 May 1997 22:36:10 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Hi all, Has anybody used Beehive Technologies ADB I/O box on their ADB equiped NeXT boxes? Does or did, anyone make any devices that you attached to the ADB bus on the NeXT boxes. I am interested in adding stuff to my NeXT (TCS) to do things. Thanks. Martin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!EU.net!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newscore.univie.ac.at!03-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.tuwien.ac.at!news From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any Recommendations for fast SCSI Controllers / Harddisks? Date: 11 May 1997 22:39:12 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5l5hqg$ju8@news.tuwien.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: ray.cg.tuwien.ac.at X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) I am thinking of upgrading my SCSI subsystem, and would like to know if anyone has recommendations, experiences aso. My current configuration is: Asus P/I-P6NP5, PPro 200/256kB ASUS 2940 Non-Wide with Seagate ST32550N 2G (Bacrracuda) I am considering a Seagate ST34501W, 4.5 (Cheetah) and maybe a ASUS 2940 UW but I have heard, that there are better/faster controllers. The controller/hardisk I am looking for needs to be supported by NeXTstep 3.3. Thanks in advance for any information! If you only send me your information per e-mail, I will generate a summary post with all the tips and hints I get. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!bankamerica.com!usenet From: John Walter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: 11 May 1997 23:06:07 GMT Organization: A Corporation who shall Remain Nameless Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5l5jcv$9se@cgs1.bankamerica.com> References: <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: overseer.bankamerica.com In article <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott Turner) writes: > In <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> John Walter wrote: > > Has anyone had any luck getting Nextstep or Openstep (Mach) running on the > > Compaq Deskpro 6000? > > > > Yes, very succesfully . Be sure to use the adaptec 3.37 driver from > NextAnswers: http://www.next.com. I have not been able to use the builtin > network card yet, waiting to here back from next on the drivers for the > netflex nic. > > Scott Turner > FirstSight Inc. > http://www.1stsight.com > vision@1stsight.com Did you add on a host adaptor or do you need the adaptec driver for the standard configuration? Sorry if this question is naive, I'm not too familiar with PC hardware. I'd be interested in your experiences. Did you have to add anything special to the standard configuration to get it to work? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.onramp.net!news-in.iadfw.net!gryphon.phoenix.net!phillips From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 68k NeXT Logic Board Battery Page Date: 8 May 1997 19:39:46 GMT Organization: Phoenix DataNET! http://www.phoenix.net/pdn/ Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5kta62$loo$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha1.phoenix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Being the type of guy that rushes in where angels fear to tread, I have just put up a web page that could grow into a useful source of information about the logic board batteries for the 68k NeXT. So far I have put up a brief explanation of what the batteries are, and have a photo of one of the batteries. I invite people to drop in and give comments - is this a useful page? A similar page that I do for the Mac has been well received, and I would like to produce a similar useful page for the 68k NeXT hardware. How does the single photo that I have available look on a NeXT? This page is NOT designed to be the final word in maintenance, it could become a quick reference for real hardware folks, and could answer some questions for folks that have hardware concerns. Useful comments will be happily implemented, criticism will be taken in the spirit with which it is offered. -- Charles D Phillips Check the 68k NeXT Logic Board Battery web page at: Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.iconn.net!usenet From: John LaViola Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Configuring ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda for Black Hardware Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:41:19 -0400 Organization: i-conn Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3376834F.4CF4@iconn.net> References: <337429D3.6B6D@orb.com> Reply-To: jlaviola@iconn.net NNTP-Posting-Host: nh-ts02-05.iconn.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26668 comp.sys.next.hardware:28771 Samuel Goldberger wrote: > > I've run into a wierd problem with a Seagate ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda > hard drive. I've successfully attached the drive to my Turbo station, > and then intialized and built it under 3.3. However, when I attempt to > boot from the drive, I get: > > SCSI unexpected msg 1 > sc: unexpected msg > etc. > I've used many Barracuda 2LP and 4LP drives and never had this problem. In fact installation was quite uneventful. What SCSI controller are you using? What driver? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!world1.bellatlantic.net!news From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 01:26:02 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3376A9E5.2B58@BellAtlantic.net> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Reply-To: dutky@BellAtlantic.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 20424510565.bellatlantic.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Terry Wilcox wrote: > I think it says something positive about NeXT hardware when > we're favorably comparing a six year old NeXT to a newer PC. > The 486 DX2/66 arrived years after the NeXTstation. Heck, I compare a NeXT TurboColor slab favorably to my PowerPC 604/132 in terms of user responsiveness. It doesn't, however, compare very well when rendering the Mandlebrot set, but then I think that would be a bit much to expect. Still, I'm a little peeved that my one year old PowerMac clone performs, in many respects, worse than a 5 year old 68040 box. - Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.pond.com!psybeast From: psybeast@pond.com (PsyBeast) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Just Got a NeXT "Cube" Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 01:18:29 -0500 Organization: the Dragon Lines: 98 Distribution: inet Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.69.82.120 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.soft-sys.nextstep:3112 comp.sys.next.hardware:28773 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17539 comp.sys.next.misc:25805 comp.sys.next.software:29490 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26673 As of Friday, I now have a NeXT "Cube" running around my apartment, ethernet that is. The only major problem at this stage of the game, is that I need a Clean New OS install. The cube came with what appears to be all the basic manuals, and a blank 256MB MO cartridge... and NOTHING else!!!! When I log on as root, the icons in my apps dock are generic icons, and I have NO /NextApps directory/folder... All I have is /NextDeveloper, Library, Tour... and therefor, NO services... I want to reformat the drive... and begin FRESH... I have files that have NOT been touched since 1990... I need an OS... I did manage to upgrade the cube to 28MBs of RAM, and it already comes with an '040 with a 660HD and MO drive... no floppy... I want to connect it to my existing HOME ethernet network, and turn it into a possible print/file server... I did get the NeXT LaserWriter with it... I already have a PMac 7100/66/2xCD/56MB RAM/1GB HD... MacIIci 32MB/250 HD/DayStar cache card... Mac SE 4/80... HP DeskWriter w/Mini EtherPrint box... all connected with Cat 5 to a Dayna MiniHub-8... I have spent a good part of the weekend reading what I have in print, including the "Upgrading to Release 2.0", and I have surfed the various Net homepages, and found some GREAT FUTURE INFO... but, I have a really operating OS... In my searches, I was not able to find a place, where I could download ANY version... Did I miss something?? At NeXTes homepage, I found the multiple-K stuff without a problem, I am NOT an Enterprise... I just want to get a simple basic OS... Bonuses would be WriteNow... Mathematica... Websters... etc... I have emailed the folks at NeXT... and seeing it was the weekend, I really did not expect to hear anything til Monday... I did get an AutoAnswer from there mailer... Where can I find and OS!! I am willing to spend a couple hundred bucks for a LEGAL copy (factory sealed). Or, I do have a T1 at work and a major credit card... SCSI storage is NOT a problem... I carry a 3.2GBs HD around for work... I also have a 7300/180 with 2GBs... At home, externally, there is a 500HD, 1GB HD, 230HD 3.5" MO, 45MB SyQuest, and a 1xCD... I am also planning to hookup a TeleBit T-3000... In the new apartment, I'm looking at ISDN... July 1st time frame... In the new apartment, it looks like there will be at least three WinTels; 386/Win3.X, 486/Win95, 596/NT4 added to the HomeNet... Looking to go to TCP/IP... Again, after all that background info, I come back to my basic question... Where can I get a LEGAL version of a NeXT OS that will run on a NeXT 040/28MB RAM/660MB HD/256MB MO???? I you have any other comments, please send them along to me... Please don't spam... If I did miss something... Sorry, but I could not easily find it in the FAQs online... I have done some reading in my life, and I generally enjoy useful, practical information... I also submit the above with the knowledge that MacOS 8.0 is just around the corner, and Rhapsody's light might just be seen at the end of the WWDC next week's tunnel. Thanks in advance, Psybeast psybeast@pond.com www.pond.com/~psybeast ----- "He who has imagination without learning has wings but no feet" - Chinese future cookie #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!news.unisource.nl!news.tip.nl!news.globalxs.nl!news From: Ruben Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Neede: Resellers for Adv. Comp. Products.(only serious replies). Date: 8 May 1997 22:30:31 GMT Organization: GlobalXS, the Netherlands Message-ID: <5ktk67$39h@guust.globalxs.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: laurel.moviestar.globalxs.nl Lines: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is being brought to you by Dynamic Mail - the easier and faster's way to explodes your business on the internet. 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Sincerely Ruben Daniels #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!nick.arc.nasa.gov!purdue!oitnews.harvard.edu!fas-news.harvard.edu!not-for-mail From: "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: novice question Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 22:49:40 -0400 Organization: Harvard University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <337290C3.32FC845D@fas.harvard.edu> References: <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> Reply-To: moreau@fas.harvard.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: moreau.student.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Peter Nitezki wrote: > In article <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." > > writes: > > Hi all! > > > > Just got a NeXTstation Turbo and I'm having trouble getting it to > > recognize my DOS floppies. It worked the very first time I put one > in > > but now when I put the same disk in it won't work. > > > You didn't eject the floppy by sticking a pin into the manual eject > hole, > didn't you? What is the console log (Alternate-C in Workspace) > telling > when you put the floppy in? Does it work after login again? Or > after a > reboot? Thanks for all the suggestions Steve Haynes was able to help me out Jean #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 9 May 1997 03:45:53 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f180-133.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Charles William Swiger wrote: >The Motorola CPU's are not really using clock doubling. A 33 MHz 68040 >CPU can execute only 33 million NOP opcodes in one second, whereas a >486DX2/66 can execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. What exactly does the term "clock doubling" mean then? [honest to Gawd question, no flame intended]. I was lead to believe it meant doubling the external clock for internal timing. Damn - I even went to Motorola's web page to double check this, got it wrong anyway... Oh, another minor correction: ...a 486DX2/66 _does_ execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. :-) - Gareth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!news From: xx yy Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Another novice question Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:55:21 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Lines: 8 Message-ID: <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: tr2f-069.azn.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) Sorry to bother you with this, but I'm new, so.... Can I use a SCSI2 HD drive in my NeXT Cube?? Thanks for the answer! Maurice van Steensel m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!59.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:25:41 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3376A9E5.2B58@BellAtlantic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.59 > Heck, I compare a NeXT TurboColor slab favorably to my PowerPC > 604/132 in terms of user responsiveness. It doesn't, however, > compare very well when rendering the Mandlebrot set, but then > I think that would be a bit much to expect. Still, I'm a little > peeved that my one year old PowerMac clone performs, in many > respects, worse than a 5 year old 68040 box. > You mean I'm not the only one who noticed this? I have a PowerCenter 132 with 40 Megs of memory and my Turbo Dimension cube seems just as responsive. In fact, the PPC is only slightly faster at doing certain drawing tasks such as selecting and dragging complex filled objects. The cube prints MUCH faster than the Mac to the SAME printers (an HP LJ III and a LW Select 360). And, of course, the NeXT never crashes. My Mac hasn't crashed yet this morning, but give it time. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!world1.bellatlantic.net!news From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:28:36 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Lines: 33 Message-ID: <33775342.25D6@BellAtlantic.net> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3376A9E5.2B58@BellAtlantic.net> <19970512131957.AAA14376@59.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> Reply-To: dutky@BellAtlantic.net NNTP-Posting-Host: client200-125-104.bellatlantic.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > You mean I'm not the only one who noticed this? I have a > PowerCenter 132 with 40 Megs of memory and my Turbo Dimension > cube seems just as responsive. In fact, the PPC is only > slightly faster at doing certain drawing tasks such as selecting > and dragging complex filled objects. The cube prints MUCH > faster than the Mac to the SAME printers (an HP LJ III and a > LW Select 360). I am a little suprised that we haven't seen a whole bunch of postings noting this. I would bet that a lot of folks, after Apple bought NeXT, went out and bought a used NeXT box (they're really inexpensive) just to see what the new MacOS might look like. Anyone using a Mac and a NeXT simultaneously would have noticed this! I suspect that many of the Mac users who did this have been silent on this out of shame, grief or frustration. Just for the record, I'm one of those Mac users who only bought a NeXT after the Apple aquisition. I fall into the grief and frustration categories. > And, of course, the NeXT never crashes. My Mac hasn't crashed > yet this morning, but give it time. This crashing tendancy is one of the "many respects" in which my PowerMac performs "worse than a 5 year old 6804 box" to which I was referring in my post. After using the NeXT for only a few months my entire concept of acceptable stability has changed. My entire career in computers has been on the Mac (I started with a Lisa 2/5 at the age of 16) and I had become very forgiving of the bomb box. Never again. - Jeff Dutky #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!mr.net!newsfeeder.gi.net!news.uark.edu!news From: rbumpus@comp.uark.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Another novice question Date: 12 May 1997 17:55:03 GMT Organization: The University of Arkansas Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5l7lhn$rf1@picayune.uark.edu> References: <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> Reply-To: rbumpus@comp.uark.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: columbia.uark.edu In article <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> xx yy writes: > Sorry to bother you with this, but I'm new, so.... > > Can I use a SCSI2 HD drive in my NeXT Cube?? > > Thanks for the answer! > > Maurice van Steensel > m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl I remember reading somewhere that you can, but the drive must be running in SCSI-1, asynchronous mode. If the drive cannot emulate that, then I don't think it'll work. Bob #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!news@tiac.net From: Serguei Bakhteiarov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:17:41 -0400 Organization: Conextions, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> Reply-To: serge@conextions.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.215.178.76 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hi, Can I connect Mac and NeXT using just one cable (twisted pair( with RJ 45, without purchasing a hub? Does anybody know what I have to do on a Mac side to get access to black printer hooked up to my NeXT? many thanks in advance serge #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!news@tiac.net From: Serguei Bakhteiarov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Another novice question Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:19:45 -0400 Organization: Conextions, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <33777B61.5B51663C@conextions.com> References: <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> Reply-To: serge@conextions.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.215.178.76 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) xx yy wrote: > > Sorry to bother you with this, but I'm new, so.... > > Can I use a SCSI2 HD drive in my NeXT Cube?? > > Thanks for the answer! > > Maurice van Steensel > m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl Your e-mail address does not work. You can use any SCSI drive, just make sure it supports async mode. I had some troubles using sync SCSI hds on old black hardware. serge #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.25.192.30!iagnews.iagnet.net!tlawriw From: tsnmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: WIRELESS INTERNET ACCESS!!!!!!!!! Date: Mon, 12 May 97 20:42:09 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5l7v6b$dqq$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm16-30.stratos.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.aol-sucks:123989 alt.bbs.internet:60840 alt.business:246308 alt.business.misc:314553 alt.business.multi-level:289219 alt.internet.access.wanted:46219 alt.internet.services:100945 alt.misc:61578 alt.online-service:24548 alt.online-service.america-online:21360 alt.online-service.compuserve:19335 alt.online-service.freenet:2925 alt.online-service.genie:7703 alt.online-service.microsoft:6684 alt.online-service.prodigy:36498 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:73466 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:28923 comp.sys.mac.portables:87750 comp.sys.misc:5772 comp.sys.next.hardware:28783 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17553 comp.sys.next.misc:25811 misc.entrepreneurs:276613 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11581 Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:13:03 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3376A9E5.2B58@BellAtlantic.net> <19970512131957.AAA14376@59.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> <33775342.25D6@BellAtlantic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: <33775342.25D6@BellAtlantic.net> On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jeffrey S. Dutky wrote: > Just for the record, I'm one of those Mac users who only bought > a NeXT after the Apple aquisition. I fall into the grief and > frustration categories. Look at it this way: Soon the OS that performs so well on a 25 Mhz 040 will be coming to your (10x faster) PPC. I only hope Apple can survive long enough to bring it to market. I weep for the future of personal computers if they fail. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "N. Albert Bacharach, Jr." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hyperdata Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:46:14 -0400 Organization: Law Office N. Albert Bacharach Lines: 3 Message-ID: <33778FA6.3039@worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.66.182 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; I) Does anyone know about or have experence with a Hyperdata MediaGo 850 Pro? I'm thinking of buying a 13.3 xga with a mmx166 & 80Mb of dram, but would appreciate any information about the company and its products. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.seicom.net!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: 12 May 1997 21:48:12 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5l836s$1se$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Serguei Bakhteiarov wrote: > > Does anybody know what I have to do on a Mac side to get access to black > printer hooked up to my NeXT? > Nothing if you install CAPer on the NeXT side (just use the LaserWriter8), see http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html - Frank --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to get 68040 monitor socket terminator manufactured ? Date: 12 May 1997 14:59:53 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5l83sp$8sg@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, I'm considering purchasing a Color NeXTStation and netbooting my cube. To use the color monitor - but not the mono monitors I'd like to put a terminator in the monitor socket of the cube as described in the FAQ topic on booting a headless machine. Where could I take the pin lay out and have such a terminator constructed? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@Hell.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Has anyone gotten USR Sportster 28800 to work in OPENSTEP? Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:18:15 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3377daee.62548940@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip43.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 12 May 1997 22:20:41 GMT I am running OPENSTEP for Mach for Intel and I have been trying to get my modem (USR 28800) to work under OPENSTEP. I figured USR is a big modem seller, so how could my modem not work. But, it doesn't. What happens is (since my modem is PnP) when I am booting with "-v", it is reported that OPENSTEP found a USR blah blah blah. Then a little later in the boot process, a message says "ISASerialPort Could Not Detect Chip" or something like that. I swapped my 28800 with a Sportster 14400 and it worked. The 14400 was configured for Com 1, IRQ 4. By the way, the 28800 had no jumper shunts on it (PnP). I put the 28800 in again, this time, putting jumper shunts on the 28800 so that it was set on Com 2, IRQ 3. The modem works fine in DOS/Windows, but when I boot OPENSTEP and hit "-v" to show messages, it is reported that I have a Serial Port on IRQ 4. I ran Configure.app after it was done booting and set the port on Com 2, IRQ 3 and rebooted, but it said the same thing. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New attempt Date: 13 May 1997 00:37:15 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5l8d3r$osb$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <33767A53.21B8@group.azn.nl> Reply-To: clowenst@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) In <33767A53.21B8@group.azn.nl> xx yy wrote: > Trying again cos I didn't see my message appear: With a return address like user@group.azn.nl you won't get any mail back either. > I recently bought a NeXTCube 040 running NeXTSTEP 2.1 . I also have a NeXT > CD-ROM player. Problem: the Cube won't recognize the CDROM drive. The Cube > does not have a hard disk but boots from the optical, by the way so perhaps > that is the problem. Anyway, the ROM monitor says at startup that it sees a > CDROM drive at sc0 sg0 target5, so it looks like it sees a HD not a CD > player. After that I get a message that it doesn't recognize the disk label > so it really looks like ti expects a HD at sc0. I presume you mean sd0. NeXTstep 2.1 did not have proper drivers for CDROM file systems. Shortly after NS2.1, NeXT released a demo disk of Educational software that had upgraded drivers. > I have a NEXT 3.0 upgrade on > CDROM that I would very much like to use but I don't know how at the moment. If you have the floppy disk that comes with the NS3.0 upgrade, it has CDROM drivers on it. It also has a completely new version of sdmach/odmach which you can use as part of the upgrade process. > Can anyone help me? The manual suggests that I need an internal HD for > external SCSI devices to work. Is that so or can I (in case I need a HD > which I do anyway) just daisy-chain the lot. I'm stuck so I would very much > appreciate any help. If you do not have an internal HD, you need to provide in some other way two of the hardware functions that the internal drive normally supplies. First, you need a SCSI bus terminator at the internal end of the bus, connecting to the 2x25 male connector on the CPU board. Second, you need a source of SCSI TERMPWR somewhere on the bus. This is supplied by the internal disk in the standard hardware configuration. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sonysjc!sonybc!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!iagnews.iagnet.net!tlawriw From: tsnmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE Date: Tue, 13 May 97 02:10:11 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5l8ida$1k4$2@iagnews.iagnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm17-2.stratos.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.aol-sucks:124006 alt.bbs.internet:60859 alt.business:246474 alt.business.misc:314720 alt.business.multi-level:289365 alt.internet.access.wanted:46230 alt.internet.services:100973 alt.misc:61627 alt.online-service:24557 alt.online-service.america-online:21365 alt.online-service.compuserve:19342 alt.online-service.freenet:2928 alt.online-service.genie:7707 alt.online-service.microsoft:6693 alt.online-service.prodigy:36501 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:73494 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:28930 comp.sys.mac.portables:87779 comp.sys.misc:5775 comp.sys.next.hardware:28790 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17560 comp.sys.next.misc:25813 misc.entrepreneurs:276734 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11593 Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!news From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS 4.x --- does it work with a Tyan Tomcat III/Dual ? Date: 13 May 1997 03:28:13 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5l8n4d$io1@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Reply-To: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de NNTP-Posting-Host: wex049.extern.uni-wuerzburg.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I'm planning to get a Tyan Tomcat III/Dual P5/133 motherboard to run Solaris/x86 and OPENSTEP 4.x on it. I know that OS won't make any use of the board's MP capabilities, but does it work at least? My setup would be like this ..... Tyan Tomcat III/dual 2x Intel P133 NCR 83x110 SCSI MGA Millenium 4MB (Quantum 3.2GB) (SMC Ultra 16 ISA) (SB16/PnP) The first four parts of the list would be new, I just want to upgrade my current (and more and more unstable) 486/120 system. -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger rainer@cip.mathematik for public key ...) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Those sound sockets (?) on the cube and on the SONY CD-ROM Date: 12 May 1997 21:28:02 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Are those sockes on the back of a cube used to attach speakers? Apologies if this is a simple question but I don't have a set of speakers to test this hypothesis. There are similar sockets on the back of a NeXT SONY CD-ROM. How are they used? Is it possible to feed the signal from the CD-ROM into the cube using these sockets or is using the sound jack on the front of the CD-ROM the only option? I've heard people say nice things about the quality of sound that can come from a cube. They aren't also feeding sound from the CD-ROM to the speakers the same way are they? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can you use a sound box with a Mono cube ? Date: 12 May 1997 21:30:14 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5l8qom$9g0@slip.net> References: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Can one use a NeXT Sound Box with a Mono cube or does one have to have a color system? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### From: Grant Passmore Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Infusion Subject: Infusion BBS Software NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.139.152.211 Message-ID: <33765d9e.0@data.wt.net> Date: 12 May 97 00:00:30 GMT Lines: 32 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sesqui.net!data.wt.net!206.139.152.211 I just thought I'd let everyone know.... There is finally a BBS Software with all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity, but without the bugs and bad support. Infusion BBS Software is a new generation in BBS Software, modeled after OBV/2 and Iniquity with everything that the sysop can imagine..and more. Some basic features are: o Multi-node upto 255 concurrent users o Light-bar support [arrow keys] o Requires NO Fossil Driver [selectable FOSSIL, ASYNC, and Digiboard for each node] o Online Configuration [menu editor, string editor, evemt editor, node editor, system editor, etc] o Pipe Color Codes o MCI Codes o Powerful scripting language o Internal One-Liners, Blacklist, voting booth, etc o Internal Z-Modem, X-Modem, Y-Modem, Y-modem-g [no limit to external protocols] o Internal COMM Program with internal protocols, Auto Up/DL o Great support o Basically all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity combined Infusion has been picked up by fuEl [international art group], and Infusion 1.0th will be released June 10th. Come to the Infusion Home-Page at http://web.wt.net/~sparky/ibbs/ and jump into the JAVA Based Chatroom, or come to the ANNEX, the official Infusion IRC Server [irc.annex.net] #infusion / #bbs send the author skaboy101 [Grant Passmore] E-mail at skaboy@usa.net -lata skaboy101 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.webspan.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 01:52:04 -0600 From: willem@gintic.gov.sg Subject: running NeXT color station without keyboard, soundbox, etc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <863505607.7273@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 13 06:40:07 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 155.69.4.53 (peso.ntu.ac.sg) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0 (Win95; I) via Harvest Cache version 3.0pl4-OSF X-Authenticated-Sender: willem@gintic.gov.sg Lines: 13 Hi there, Does anybody out there have experience with running a color-slab without monitor, keyboard, soundbox and mouse. I would like to run a system just with access from the network only. Is it necessary to make some changes in system-configuration and/or rc.local, etc. If anybody did this before, could you let me know? Thanks, Willem -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.best.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <33765d9e.0@data.wt.net> Date: 13 May 1997 06:25:57 GMT Control: cancel <33765d9e.0@data.wt.net> Message-ID: Sender: Grant Passmore X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI and NeXT Turbo Date: 13 May 1997 11:04:33 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5l9hs1$22d$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5l280f$caa$1@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] John Badanes (john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu) wrote: > Is there any problem using an "Ultra SCSI" hard drive in a > NeXT Turbo computer. It's 50-pin, and all that, but hey. > I'm thinking about a 2110MB Quantum [TM32110S] - Ultra SCSI > interface - 10.5ms, 4500rpm, 128K buffer, etc. Are there any > problems that I can expect, or will this be (crossing his > fingers), a "plug-and-play" sort of thing. Works fine in my Turbo station. I had no problems whatsoever. Good choice for a disk IMHO. :-) HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!news@tiac.net From: Serguei Bakhteiarov Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:58:18 -0400 Organization: Conextions, Inc. Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com> References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> <5l836s$1se$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> Reply-To: serge@conextions.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.215.178.76 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) CC: larryf@halcyon.com X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > Serguei Bakhteiarov wrote: > > > > Does anybody know what I have to do on a Mac side to get access to black > > printer hooked up to my NeXT? > > > > Nothing if you install CAPer on the NeXT side (just use the LaserWriter8), > see http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html > > - Frank > > --- > * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net > * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy Thank you! Now, I do have Asante ethernet RJ45 adapter and twisted pair cable with RJ45 connectors. In my NeXT I also do have RJ45 nest. Can I just directly connect my Mac and NeXT using the cable? What does it mean "null modem" cable keeping in mind ethernet TP cable? I used "null modem" cables for serial ports, but never heard about ones for the ethernet.... with kind regards, serge #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!news.io.com!terry From: terry@arcane.com (Terry Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use a sound box with a Mono cube ? Date: 13 May 1997 15:34:42 GMT Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. Lines: 20 Sender: terry@www.arcane.com Message-ID: References: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> <5l8qom$9g0@slip.net> Reply-To: terry@arcane.com NNTP-Posting-Host: www.arcane.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 UNIX) On 12 May 1997 21:30:14 -0700, Emmett McLean wrote: > >Hi, > >Can one use a NeXT Sound Box with a Mono cube or does >one have to have a color system? You don't need a Sound Box with a cube. The mono monitor provides the same functionality. You've got a microphone jack, a headphone jack, and I think there's stereo out (I've never paid attention). The color systems need a Sound Box. Their monitors aren't as cool as the mono monitors. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox Arcane Systems Ltd. terry@arcane.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: 13 May 1997 15:33:16 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5la1js$o18@winter.erols.com> References: <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> <5l5jcv$9se@cgs1.bankamerica.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-as76s22.erols.com X-Received-On: 13 May 1997 15:33:16 GMT X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: John Walter In <5l5jcv$9se@cgs1.bankamerica.com> John Walter wrote: > In article <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott > Turner) writes: > > In <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> John Walter wrote: > > > Has anyone had any luck getting Nextstep or Openstep (Mach) running on > the > > > Compaq Deskpro 6000? > > > > > > > Yes, very succesfully . Be sure to use the adaptec 3.37 driver from > > NextAnswers: > {{\xurl http://www.next.com > }<} > http://www.next.com. I have not been able to use the > builtin > > network card yet, waiting to here back from next on the drivers for the > > netflex nic. > > > > Scott Turner > > FirstSight Inc. > > > {{\xurl http://www.1stsight.com > }<} > http://www.1stsight.com > > vision@1stsight.com > > Did you add on a host adaptor or do you need the adaptec driver for the > standard configuration? Sorry if this question is naive, I'm not too > familiar with PC hardware. I'd be interested in your experiences. Did > you have to add anything special to the standard configuration to get it > to work? > I used the adapted 2940U that came with it. Scott Turner FirstSight Inc. http://www.1stsight.com vision@1stsight.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!news From: Maurice van Steensel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Another novice question Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:36:38 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Lines: 19 Message-ID: <33790916.FA7@antrg.azn.nl> References: <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> <33777B61.5B51663C@conextions.com> Reply-To: M.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: tr2f-069.azn.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Serguei Bakhteiarov wrote: > > xx yy wrote: > > > > Sorry to bother you with this, but I'm new, so.... > > > > Can I use a SCSI2 HD drive in my NeXT Cube?? > > > > Thanks for the answer! > > > > Maurice van Steensel > > m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl > > Your e-mail address does not work. You can use any SCSI drive, just make > sure it supports async mode. I had some troubles using sync SCSI hds on > old black hardware. > > serge Thank you to everyone who replied! I should be able to fix it now! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Those sound sockets (?) on the cube and on the SONY CD-ROM Date: 13 May 1997 15:24:48 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5la140$3el2@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) >Are those sockes on the back of a cube used to attach speakers? There are no such things on the back of a cube. On the back of the MegaPixel display, yes! >How are they used? Line out, just like your stereo. >Is it possible to feed the signal from the CD-ROM into >the cube using these sockets or is using the sound jack >on the front of the CD-ROM the only option? No. These two sockets are line out. There is a microphone input plug on the back of the MegaPixel which you could use, but the sampling quality on the mic input isn't high and will all but kill CD quality sound. Your best bet is to either get DigitalEars (a CD quality input device that plugs into the DSP port) or buy a CD-ROM that allows transfer of music data over the SCSI bus. OmniCD supports some but not all CD-ROMs allows this, NeXT's original CD-ROM being the most notable. - Gareth #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Can you use a sound box with a Mono cube ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:23:28 GMT References: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> <5l8qom$9g0@slip.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 20 In article <5l8qom$9g0@slip.net>, Emmett McLean wrote: > >Hi, > >Can one use a NeXT Sound Box with a Mono cube or does >one have to have a color system? > Sure, you can do this. But then you'll have no monitor. One thing to watch out for, though, is that some cubes' power supplies are not designed to operate without a monitor connected, and will turn the machine off shortly after you turn it on. You can either find a newer power supply or attach something hefty inside (I use a toasted Quantum hard disk that won't spin up.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS 4.1 on Pentium II, anyone? Date: 13 May 1997 19:18:49 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5laeqp$cgm@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5l9t53$1nqo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port14.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: atl2@lehigh.edu In <5l9t53$1nqo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: > Hi all! > > Has anyone tried OS 4.1 on a Pentium II, yet? How does it compare to > PPro? > > Cheers! > > Alex > > it's more expensive! -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ix.netcom.com!news.he.net!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to get 68040 monitor socket terminator manufactured ? Date: 13 May 1997 19:30:07 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5laffv$cgm@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5l83sp$8sg@slip.net> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: cisco1-port14.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5l83sp$8sg@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Hi, > > I'm considering purchasing a Color NeXTStation and netbooting > my cube. To use the color monitor - but not the mono monitors > I'd like to put a terminator in the monitor socket of the cube > as described in the FAQ topic on booting a headless machine. > > Where could I take the pin lay out and have such a terminator > constructed? > > Thanks, > > Emmett > > I always thought this was a missed opportunity for some (low-profit) entre-punter. at the right price I'd buy at least two. (I'd make my own, except they don't let me play with sharp objects anymore, especially ones that plug in and get hot, ever since the time I handed the hot end to an associate who requested the soldering iron. this was while making up midi-like cables back in the early '80s). perhaps some custom cable house would accept a "bulk" order for these. I haven't heard of any third party (used) NeXT hardware folks selling these, anyone? what do you thik a fair price would be? (treatises on the meaning of Fair Price in a Free Market followed-up to comp.sys.mogul.billgates.wannabes) -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.165.3.21!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: tasco@primenet.com (Tasco) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What version of NeXTSTEP supports PCI Date: 13 May 1997 13:49:03 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3378d23d.20953108@news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: @204.245.17.14 (tasco) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would just like to know what kind of box I can install version 3.2 on, or am I going to have to upgrade? Thx Eric Ulrich tasco@primenet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!192.220.251.22!netnews.nwnet.net!netra.oscs.montana.edu!stryker From: stryker@montana.edu (Christian Stryker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Strange ND System Problems Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:38:22 -0700 Organization: Montana State University Lines: 48 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: macburns7.msu.montana.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b13 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28808 comp.sys.next.bugs:4309 Hi all, I've owned a NeXTdimension system for the past 5 years and have been quite happy with it. I recently purchased a second ND system and have been experiencing some strange problems that I'd like to solve. The problems are: Columns of files in the browser view sometimes change to all black NeXTTV camera icon sometimes refuses to freeze a video image NeXTTV palette sometimes changes to all black Rare but real system freezes while Backspace screensaver is running Rare strange boots (system will fail to display a login window and require a reboot) None of these problems has ever manifested itself on my earlier system and I'm having trouble tracking down exactly what might be causing these problems--the dimension board, software, disk problems, RAM malfunctions, etc. System Details: 25MHz cube 64MB RAM NeXTdimension board with 32MB VRAM 400MB Internal HD 2GB External HD OpenStep 4.0 Developer Has anyone heard of or experienced similar problems? Thanks. -Chris -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr. Christian Stryker || Burns Telecommunications Center | | Educational Technologist || Montana State University | | 406-994-4660 (voice) || 128-I EPS Building | | 406-994-7856 (fax) || Bozeman, MT 59717-3860 | | stryker@montana.edu || http://www.montana.edu/btc | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Creature@Hell.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS 4.1 on Pentium II, anyone? Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 04:34:32 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 12 Message-ID: <337940c8.6927108@news.mindspring.com> References: <5l9t53$1nqo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip189.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 13 May 1997 23:37:01 GMT On 13 May 1997 14:17:07 GMT, atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: >Hi all! > >Has anyone tried OS 4.1 on a Pentium II, yet? How does it compare to >PPro? Don't buy one!! Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!news.navigator.de!not-for-mail From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Configuring ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda for Black Hardware Date: 13 May 1997 23:13:40 GMT Organization: Navigator Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5lasj4$5vk$1@radjah.navigator.de> References: <337429D3.6B6D@orb.com> <3376834F.4CF4@iconn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: marsu.navigator.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: jlaviola@iconn.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26703 comp.sys.next.hardware:28810 In <3376834F.4CF4@iconn.net> John LaViola wrote: > Samuel Goldberger wrote: > > > > I've run into a wierd problem with a Seagate ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda > > hard drive. I've successfully attached the drive to my Turbo station, > > and then intialized and built it under 3.3. However, when I attempt to > > boot from the drive, I get: > > > > SCSI unexpected msg 1 > > sc: unexpected msg > > etc. > > > > I've used many Barracuda 2LP and 4LP drives and never had this problem. > In fact installation was quite uneventful. What SCSI controller are you > using? What driver? Black hardware hasn't a big amount of different SCSI controllers and drivers. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.nether.net!news4.ixa.net!ixa.net!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Software password Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:53:42 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <3376477D.6A4D@primenet.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: alexhart@alexhart.com In-Reply-To: <3376477D.6A4D@primenet.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat This is the hardware password Take out the battery for a couple hours.... TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.nether.net!news4.ixa.net!ixa.net!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Toner Cartridge for N2000? Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:52:11 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Colin Foster In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat HP Laserjet II, IID,III, IID HP ref : HP 92295A TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.58.0.36!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten USR Sportster 28800 to work in OPENSTEP? Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:01:00 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <3377daee.62548940@news.mindspring.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira In-Reply-To: <3377daee.62548940@news.mindspring.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat I would have emailed you had you included a valid email address.... since you didn't, here's apost... I have a USRobotic sportster 56k (aka X2) modem working under OpenStep 4.1 .... sounds like you may not have all the drivers or something... TjL #################################################################### From: Jim Stutt Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS 3.1 for Intel - Drivers for new hardware Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:02:03 -0700 Organization: Organization? Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3379393B.167E@kouzlo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: term3-25.vta.west.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SCO_SV 3.2 i386) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.Hawaii.Edu!news.lava.net!news.flex.com!news.west.net!news I have the original CDs for NS and Developer for version 3.1 (the original Intel version). I have a spare PC with: P166 CPU 32MB RAM ATI Mach 64 PCI 2MB VRAM Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI TOSHIBA 2X CD Logitech 3 button mouse Is there any way to get drivers to be able to install the 3.1 CDs on this PC? I am used to SCO Unix and the BTLD (Boot Time Loadable Driver). Do these exist for NS? Or am I hosed and need to scratch this idea? Thanks in advance Jim Stutt Please post and email. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What version of NeXTSTEP supports PCI Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 01:03:49 GMT References: <3378d23d.20953108@news.primenet.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 In article <3378d23d.20953108@news.primenet.com>, Tasco wrote: >I would just like to know what kind of box I can install version 3.2 >on, or am I going to have to upgrade? 3.2 does a little bit of PCI, but not very much. The driver situation is pretty dire. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SPARC20 and NeXT3.3 Date: 14 May 1997 11:17:10 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5lc6vm$4tl$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <33788372.12A@mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Charlet B. Flader (cbflader@mcs.com) wrote: > Has anyone configured a standalone SPARC20 with > NeXT 3.3 user developer. I can get the software > installed but am still having the > following problems: ... > 2. I am unable to get my ZyXEL U1496 modem working > I have a straight 25 pin cable with a null > terminal adapter but am unable to move beyond > getting the DTR light activated on the modem? Sun hardware has a really funny interpretation of serial interfaces - I seem to rmember that they have two serial lines in one DB24, and in addition, use an unconventional method for hardware handshake. The easiest way to go about it is probably getting a cable that's spefific for Sun machines. Alternatively, ask on a Sun newsgroup for the wiring. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!187.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT box won't stay off. Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:08:27 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <33792B04.49A@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.51.187 > > My NeXT turbo color slab just recently decided not to stay off after I > pressed the stop button. It turns off the systerm, but the systerm > starts up a split second later. Anyone have that happen to them? > Check your preferences and see if you have turned on the switch that makes the computer restart after a shut-down. If this isn't it, you will have to go into the ROM monitor and check your settings. I have heard that you can type: bsd -p to toggle this feature on or off, but I wasn't successful with that. I had to resort to removing the battery from the Motherboard and leaving it out overnight which wipes the ROM monitor settings but will also get rid of the restarting problem. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!202.232.2.100!np1.iij.ad.jp!nf0.iij.ad.jp!nr0.iij.ad.jp!news.iij.ad.jp!news.tcp-net.ad.jp!ppp026.ngy.tcp-ip.or.jp!user From: santafe@mx.tcp-ip.or.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM ThinkPad 760EL Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:08:26 +0900 Organization: Tokai Communication Platform Network Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 157.14.164.90 I have an IBM ThinkPad 760EL. Can I run NextStep 3.3 or OpenStep 4.1 on it? Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: jut@ukrv.de (Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: 14 May 1997 15:23:10 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5lclcu$hfr$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> <5l836s$1se$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com> Reply-To: jut@ukrv.de (Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.-U. Thieme) NNTP-Posting-Host: gatekeeper.ukrv.de X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: serge@conextions.com In <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com> Serguei Bakhteiarov wrote: > Now, I do have Asante ethernet RJ45 adapter and twisted pair cable with > RJ45 connectors. In my NeXT I also do have RJ45 nest. Can I just > directly connect my Mac and NeXT using the cable? Test this with a Cross-TP-Cable or use a mini-HUB .. CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - -------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.220.251.22!netnews.nwnet.net!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!tgritton From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:23:09 -0700 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hd30-049.hil.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.1 In article <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com>, serge@conextions.com wrote: >Hi, > >Can I connect Mac and NeXT using just one cable (twisted pair( with RJ >45, without purchasing a hub? I made an RJ45 crossover cable to connect a Mac 7200 and a NeXTstation (68k black). The Next station side came up recognizing the network connection but I could never get the Mac network side to come up, even after restarting the Mac with the NeXTstation up first. Something about Open Transport I assume. PS. If you do make a crossover cable note that the Mac 7200 (perhaps others ) has non standard use of wires for Transmit and Receive. That is, the crossover is not symmetric. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news.radio.cz!riemann.iam.uni-bonn.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: URGENT: [NS 3.3/Intel] can't use ATImach64 PCI driver Date: 14 May 1997 19:23:14 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28822 de.comp.sys.next:13975 I installed NS 3.3 on an Artist PC Pentium 120MHz PCI (PnP) and after collecting the latest 3.3 drivers from NeXTanswers I solved everything except one important detail: NS can't exploit my ATI mach64 (to be precise, PC ATI-264VT, 2MB DRAM). During boot it says (driver v. 3.37): Display0: ATI BIOS not found _IOProbeDriver: No such device so it switches back to standard VGA 640x480@2. According to NA #1735 the Mach64 makes use of the card's BIOS so that you have to run a setup utility in order to get higher resolutions. It is no problem to see all resolution when running this utility, but any configuration would be written to C:\ which was not available at boot time. Now, this is really urgent, since I have to do a demo with that config tomorrow. Has anybody got a clue or successfully installed ATI Mach64/PCI cards with the NeXT supplied driver? Thanks, Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-22.sprintlink.net!news.paranet.com!news From: James Felix Black Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Faceplate for cube + floppy drive? Date: 14 May 1997 12:38:01 -0600 Organization: Paranet, Inc Lines: 16 Sender: jfblack@gamera Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pppmin01.min.paranet.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 I remember a post here periodically advertising a custom faceplate for a cube with slots milled out for both the OD and a floppy. Having recently come into posession of a floppy drive, I'd love to install it inside and have the system back to it's former, self-contained state. Any help/pointers/"read the damn faq" appreciated. TIA, JFB -- James Felix Black jfblack@paranet.com Paranet, Inc Minneapolis, MN pager: (800) 500-5723 public key: finger or mail me with subject "send public key" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!malgudi.oar.net!news.oberlin.edu!occs.cs.oberlin.edu!not-for-mail From: cjs@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Miles Standish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I use next color monitor with PC? Date: 14 May 1997 20:17:26 GMT Organization: Oberlin College Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5ld6kn$f4b@news.cc.oberlin.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: occs.cs.oberlin.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Hi I would like to use a next color monitor with a PC. How can I do this? Do I need a special cable or a special graphics card? (and if the answer is "You can not" then where is a good place to purchase (inexpensive) used color monitors? 17" or 21") Thanks in advance! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT box won't stay off. Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:04:10 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <33792B04.49A@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: po6.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <33792B04.49A@lei.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 13-May-97 NeXT box won't stay off. by Martin Lightheart@lei.co > My NeXT turbo color slab just recently decided not to stay off after I > pressed the stop button. It turns off the systerm, but the systerm > starts up a split second later. Anyone have that happen to them? First, check the Startup preferences as root and see whether you've enabled the auto-restart. If that's not the problem, then the BIOS memory (ack, a PC term but I forget what NeXT called it) isn't working right. You can try to take out the yellow battery for a day to clear the memory to a blank state, and see whether that fixes it. Otherwise, the battery is probably going, and you should replace it. It's a 3 volt BR-2/3A lithium battery, but I believe there is now a different designation for that style. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faceplate for cube + floppy drive? Date: 15 May 1997 02:52:23 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5ldtp7$p15$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article , James Felix Black wrote: >I remember a post here periodically advertising a custom faceplate for >a cube with slots milled out for both the OD and a floppy. I don't know where he's at. Maybe he's just not interested in doing these anymore. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Enterprise Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!phcs!papoose.quick.com!papoose.quick.com!not-for-mail From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: 14 May 1997 07:19:12 -0400 Organization: Quick and Associates Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5lc73g$fj@papoose.quick.com> References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> <5l836s$1se$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: papoose.quick.com In article <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com>, Serguei Bakhteiarov wrote: >Now, I do have Asante ethernet RJ45 adapter and twisted pair cable with >RJ45 connectors. In my NeXT I also do have RJ45 nest. Can I just >directly connect my Mac and NeXT using the cable? > >What does it mean "null modem" cable keeping in mind ethernet TP cable? > >I used "null modem" cables for serial ports, but never heard about ones >for the ethernet.... Think of twisted pair ethernet as a kind serial interface. The standard wiring allows you to connect a host to a hub. A variant usually called a 'crossover cable' can connect a hub to another hub, or a host to another host. If you have only two ethernet devices to connect, you can use a crossover cable (so called becase it exchanges TX and RX wires at one end). I find crossover cables useful in a number of situations. For example, if you have hosts with multiple interfaces and temporarily have need for very high volumes of traffic between two hosts, you can use a crossover cable to isolate that traffic from the rest of your networks. Since those two hosts are the only ones connected to that media segment, collisions are dramatically reduced. Remember that the cost of a low end 6-8 port TP hub is only about $100. Think about growth over the course of a year or two before deciding not to buy a hub. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars? #################################################################### From: brisinda@fsf.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Message-ID: Date: 15 May 1997 06:27:43 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep Support for Laptops Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.6 Lines: 21 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!newshost!brisinda Hello, Can anyone provide me with information (or pointer to) about what PC laptop configurations are supported for OpenStep 4.1? Has anyone tried any that aren't "formally" supported but work fine as far as they know? I'd like a dual boot WindowsNT 4.0 and OpenStep 4.1 configuration. Please respond by email. Thanks. Dale --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca or brisinda@acm.org http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca or brisinda@acm.org http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newshost.uni-koblenz.de!not-for-mail From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: URGENT: [NS 3.3/Intel] can't use ATImach64 PCI driver Date: 15 May 1997 07:26:07 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5ledqf$s51$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nihil.uni-koblenz.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28829 de.comp.sys.next:13977 wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: > NS can't exploit my ATI mach64 (to be precise, PC ATI-264VT, 2MB DRAM). Well, I'm not sure, but the "264" might be the problem. You don't have a classical ATI mach64 card, but a card with the newer "mach 264" chip, which has additional video and multimedia features. NeXT doesn't mention this chip explicitly in the compatibility list, so the Mach 64 driver might not work with it. Usually, the mach 64 driver works without problems with any of the retail, on-board or OEM versions of Mach 64-based adapters. The "BIOS-aware" versions 3.36 and 3.37 are known to have the problem of not supporting the 1152 x 896 mode in all cases. You should check the NeXT archives to see whether an old (pre-3.36) driver which didn't use the ATI BIOS is still available, and give it an additional try. > [...] so that you have to run a setup > utility in order to get higher resolutions. It is no problem to see all > resolution when running this utility, but any configuration would be > written to C:\ which was not available at boot time. No. The DOS installation utility writes the configuration directly to the card, which has an EEPROM area to save this information. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!news From: rainer@wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhðfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS 4.x on Tyan Tomcat III/Dual?? Date: 15 May 1997 14:31:00 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5lf6n4$f6o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Reply-To: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) I'm planning to buy a Tyan Tomcat III/Dual P5/133 board to replace my old and more and more unstable VLB board. I will run Solaris x86 and OS 4.x on it. While OPENSTEP won't make any use of the second CPU, would it work at all? Any experiences? Thanks in advance, Rainer. -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger rainer@cip.mathematik for public key ...) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!202.232.2.100!np1.iij.ad.jp!wnoc-tyo-news!spinnews!spin-pp0-osk!spinosk!threeWeb-news!news.osk.threewebnet.or.jp!news From: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mach64 driver parameter for 128MB main memory Date: 15 May 1997 15:35:19 GMT Organization: 3Web internet service Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5lfafn$r4c@news.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: oski008.osk.threewebnet.or.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by MimeKit/1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Newsreader: RadicalNews-J (TM) 0.9.01 Beta(i) X-Forwarded: by - (DeleGate/4.0.7) Hi. I have ATI Mach64 (4MB VRAM) running on NEXTSTEP 3.3J. It is working fine with 64MB main memory. However, when I increased the main memory to 128MB, the NEXTSTEP screen becomes black after all the boot procedure finished. I guess the reason of this problem is the wrong "port address" or "mapped memory" which are the configurable parameters in the Configure.app. With 64MB, the working parameters are the following. Port Address 8bytes at 0x2E8 Mapped Memory 4096K at 0xFC000000 I forgot how these are selected when I installed the OS. Please let me know the correct values of these parameters, with 128MB main memory or the way to calculate these parameters. In case my guess is wrong and there are some other (possible) reasons of this problem, please let me know. Thanks in advance. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* $B@P0f=SD>(B Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gryphon.phoenix.net!phillips From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 68k NeXT CPU Speed Controls Date: 15 May 1997 16:33:15 GMT Organization: Phoenix DataNET! http://www.phoenix.net/pdn/ Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5lfdsb$6t9$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha1.phoenix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Fellow Netters - I am looking into accelerating the 68k NeXT logic boards, and if anyone out there knows how the CPU/oscillator combination works - I would like to ask some questions. I see one oscillator on a slab logic board and two oscillators on a different board. How is the main clock signal divided for the other components such as hard drive, video, etc? This is purely a hobby, similar Mac boards are easy to accelerate so perhaps we can move some of those techniques over and use them on the NeXT. As I find out information I'll post it here. TIA -- Charles D Phillips Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: And the (beginnings of) the 68k NeXT Logic Board Battery Web page at: "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh" #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!news.eunet.cz!hurka!tom From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Subject: Re: URGENT: [NS 3.3/Intel] can't use ATImach64 PCI driver Message-ID: Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka) Reply-To: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.) References: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 18:20:59 GMT Lines: 23 Hi Frank, In article wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) writes: > > I installed NS 3.3 on an Artist PC Pentium 120MHz PCI (PnP) and after > collecting the latest 3.3 drivers from NeXTanswers I solved everything > except one important detail: > NS can't exploit my ATI mach64 (to be precise, PC ATI-264VT, 2MB DRAM). > During boot it says (driver v. 3.37): > > Display0: ATI BIOS not found > _IOProbeDriver: No such device [...] The new ATI cards are supported by ATIRage driver available from NeXTanswrers as #2524. Best regards, -- Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI and NeXT Turbo Date: 15 May 1997 20:36:21 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5lfs45$c51$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5l280f$caa$1@agate.berkeley.edu> <5l9hs1$22d$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam In <5l9hs1$22d$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote: > John Badanes (john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu) wrote: > > Is there any problem using an "Ultra SCSI" hard drive in a > > NeXT Turbo computer. It's 50-pin, and all that, but hey. > > > I'm thinking about a 2110MB Quantum [TM32110S] - Ultra SCSI > > interface - 10.5ms, 4500rpm, 128K buffer, etc. Are there any > > problems that I can expect, or will this be (crossing his > > fingers), a "plug-and-play" sort of thing. > > Works fine in my Turbo station. I had no problems whatsoever. > Good choice for a disk IMHO. :-) > BTW: I would guess that the person is aware of this but they'll need more than just the drive. They'll need a SCA-80 to 50pin adapter. It just works. And when we get our PPC boxes (sorry don't want NT on Intel folks) with Ultra we can just drop them on and get the increased throuroput. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!news.hamburg.pop.de!news.spinne.com!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!hone!informer1.cis.McMaster.CA!hwfn!cyberspam!hwcn.org!matt From: Newsgroups: alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: cmsg cancel <5l8ida$1k4$2@iagnews.iagnet.net> Control: cancel <5l8ida$1k4$2@iagnews.iagnet.net> Date: 15 May 1997 03:59:21 GMT Organization: Hamilton-Wentworth FreeNet Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.hwcn.org X-Cancelled-By: Matthew Kelly X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970424; sun4m SunOS 5.5] Article cancelled from within tin [v1.3 unoff BETA release 970424] Path: hwfn!informer1.cis.McMaster.CA!hone!torn!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sonysjc!sonybc!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!iagnews.iagnet.net!tlawriw From: tsnmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketpla ce,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE Date: Tue, 13 May 97 02:10:11 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5l8ida$1k4$2@iagnews.iagnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm17-2.stratos.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: hwfn alt.online-service:7787 alt.online-service.freenet:1149 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:73936 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:39970 comp.sys.mac.portables:87990 comp.sys.misc:9597 comp.sys.next.hardware:31112 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18600 comp.sys.next.misc:50007 misc.entrepreneurs:296540 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11628 Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!comp.vuw.ac.nz!news.hn.netlink.co.nz!kcbbs!apl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: laptops w/ OpenStep 4.x - webpage anywhe From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay) Date: 15 May 97 23:25:09 GMT Message-ID: <17497134.84309.10568@kcbbs.gen.nz> Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand Lines: 8 Hi; I'm looking for a web page about using laptops with NeXTSTEP -- is there one and if so, can somebodfy please point me in the right direction? Thanks! Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!comp.vuw.ac.nz!news.hn.netlink.co.nz!kcbbs!apl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black hardware & rhaphsody From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay) Date: 15 May 97 23:28:24 GMT Message-ID: <17497134.84504.10673@kcbbs.gen.nz> Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand Lines: 10 Has anybody heard anything about NeXTcubes/NeXTstations running Rhaphsody? It seems reasonable that they could do a compile, and cut a CD for the black hardware users without terribly much effort and those of us who still can't find anything to compete with our old boxes can just chug on. -= if anybody from Apple's listening -=>PLEASE!!!!!<=- =- Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-peer.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!global-one.pt!news.ip.pt!pm-lx-1-03.net.ip.pt!user From: dvit@ip.pt (Diogo Vitorino) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Just Got a NeXT "Cube" Date: 16 May 1997 00:24:05 GMT Organization: ILHA Lines: 15 Distribution: inet Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pm-lx-1-03.net.ip.pt Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.soft-sys.nextstep:3115 comp.sys.next.hardware:28837 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17594 comp.sys.next.misc:25840 comp.sys.next.software:29542 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26722 In article , psybeast@pond.com (PsyBeast) wrote: > As of Friday, I now have a NeXT "Cube" running around my apartment, > ethernet that is. > > The only major problem at this stage of the game, is that I need a Clean > New OS install. > > The cube came with what appears to be all the basic manuals, and a blank > 256MB MO cartridge... and NOTHING else!!!! >..... I actually have more or less the same problem with a Turbo Color station. Please help! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS 4.1 on Pentium II, anyone? Date: 16 May 1997 01:28:25 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5lgd7p$r9j$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <5l9t53$1nqo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> <337940c8.6927108@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu In article <337940c8.6927108@news.mindspring.com> Creature@Hell.com (Mr. Kawasaki) writes: >>Has anyone tried OS 4.1 on a Pentium II, yet? How does it compare to > >Don't buy one!! >Nick Why not? -Karl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sure.net!not-for-mail From: bigprofit@rocketmail.com (Brian Sassounian) Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level,alt.make.money.fast,alt.business.multi-level.exceltel,alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs Subject: Check it out - SEX, MUSIC, FREE STUFF, ETC Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 19:20:46 -0700 Organization: cuz he kicks ass Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <3374724D.5D03@bridge.net> <33748D74.F57FD7DF@onramp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm310.sure.net X-Newsreader: Anawave Gravity v1.10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.business.multi-level:290759 alt.make.money.fast:93360 alt.business.multi-level.exceltel:6288 alt.aol-sucks:124371 alt.bbs.internet:61071 alt.business:248037 alt.business.misc:316201 alt.internet.access.wanted:46293 alt.internet.services:101269 alt.misc:62020 alt.online-service:24610 alt.online-service.america-online:21393 alt.online-service.compuserve:19386 alt.online-service.freenet:2940 alt.online-service.genie:7716 alt.online-service.microsoft:6735 alt.online-service.prodigy:36537 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:73741 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:28978 comp.sys.mac.portables:87944 comp.sys.misc:5797 comp.sys.next.hardware:28839 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17595 comp.sys.next.misc:25842 misc.entrepreneurs:277736 What's up? Hey, I got a new webpage, it has some cool stuff, like: * Music - Wavs, Midis, Guitar, Links * Sex - Picts, Gifs, Jpgs, Movies, Links * Hacking/Phreaking/Virus/Anarchy * Free Stuff (really, free products) Check it out, you won't be disappointed. http://members.tripod.com/~brian67 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!zinger.callamer.com!!burnt From: "Burnt A. Christian" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Broken NeXT Laser Printer? Date: 16 May 1997 05:14:06 GMT Organization: The Latex Hut 2.0 Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5lgqeu$ecl$1@zinger.callamer.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp110.callamer.com Originator: burnt@ I've had this NeXT 400 DPI Laser Printer sitting in the closet. I finally got around to getting a toner cart for it and plugged it into the NeXTstation. Lo and behold, nothing happened. No power-up, NS 3.2 says there is no printer attached to printer port. NeXTstation Turbo Color says the same thing. Using standard black NeXT cable. What wrong? -- @}---;-------- Practice principled acts of self-interest -Burnt and ruthless logic #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!news.uni-mainz.de!not-for-mail From: Stefan Ried Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: URGENT: [NS 3.3/Intel] can't use ATImach64 PCI driver Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:36:27 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Lines: 34 Message-ID: <337C0E7B.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5ledqf$s51$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: th05.mpip-mainz.mpg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28841 de.comp.sys.next:13979 Marcel Bresink wrote: > > wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: > > NS can't exploit my ATI mach64 (to be precise, PC ATI-264VT, 2MB DRAM). > > ... The "BIOS-aware" versions > 3.36 and 3.37 are known to have the problem of not supporting the 1152 x 896 > mode in all cases. You should check the NeXT archives to see whether an old > (pre-3.36) driver which didn't use the ATI BIOS is still available, and give > it an additional try. I'm not sure if this is still an a archive. I have a OpenStep 4.0 machine running with Version 3.31. I thing it is the last one not dealing with the card's bios/eeprom. Give this a try: http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried/ATIMach64DisplayDriver.33.pkg.tar.gz stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cph-1.news.DK.net!dkuug!dknet!bang-olufsen.dk!nobody From: interbbs@hotmail.com (Inter-BBS) Subject: FreeNetAccessWorldwide Message-ID: <337b32e1.3189494@bang-olufsen.dk> Sender: nobody@firewall.bang-olufsen.dk Reply-To: interbbs@hotmail.com Organization: Internet of the future Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:07:49 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Lines: 9 Free internet connection worldwide via our BBS. Please visit as much as possible our sponsor pages, it’s how we are paid... Follow the link and enjoy... http://www.cybercity.hko.net/LA/interbbs/index.htm aababcabcd1121231234 #################################################################### From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT box won't stay off. Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 07:47:35 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <33792B04.49A@lei.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Charles William Swiger In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.touch.net!news.infostar.de!news2.planetc.com!news.planetc.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat > Otherwise, the battery is probably going, and you should replace it. > It's a 3 volt BR-2/3A lithium battery, but I believe there is now a > different designation for that style. The new battery designation is CR123. I got one at a camera shop a few months ago for < $10 TjL #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cph-1.news.DK.net!dkuug!dknet!bang-olufsen.dk!nobody From: interbbs@hotmail.com (+Inter-BBS+) Subject: FreeNetAccessWorldwide! Message-ID: <337b64ab.15935555@bang-olufsen.dk> Sender: nobody@firewall.bang-olufsen.dk Reply-To: interbbs@hotmail.com Organization: Internet of the future Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 19:32:28 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Lines: 9 Free internet connection worldwide via our BBS. Please visit as much as possible our sponsor pages, it’s how we are paid... Follow the link and enjoy... http://www.cybercity.hko.net/LA/interbbs/index.htm aababcabcd1121231234 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cph-1.news.DK.net!dkuug!dknet!bang-olufsen.dk!nobody From: benh@hotmail.com (Future-NET) Subject: Spy people on the Net Message-ID: <337b9601.3503281@bang-olufsen.dk> Sender: nobody@firewall.bang-olufsen.dk Reply-To: benh@hotmail.com Organization: Future-NET Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 23:36:25 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Lines: 43 I present here my two most recent software which I hope they interest you. they are progammed by Turbo C++ and run under Windows(3.11 and 95). here is a short description of these two software. 1-Robot Spy 1.0 at my knowledge, this software is the first and the unique of its kind. This software allow you to spy your friends who are on the net at the same time of you, it permits to see exactly what they do on their screen, pixel by pixel, anywhere, in the world, at the condition they are connected to the internet. how does-it work? it’s simple, you send a file to the person you want to spy telling to him it’s a game or everythings else, the objectif is this person run the file. from this time, a batch file is installed on his computor, and everytime this person use internet, this batch connects him secretly on our server. on your side, you , after the installation of the other part of the software every time you want, you can connect on our server with your password and have the list of all the persons who received your batch and who are connected at this time. the only thing you have to do is to click on the name of the person you want to spy. a window opens containing exactly the screen of the person spied, you can have ten pictures per second with 256 colors, if you switch to balck and white mode you can onbtain a real time sequence, approximatly 30 pictures by second. Robot Mailer 1.1 The message you are reading presently is sent to more then 20,000 newsgroups with this software. This program automates FreeAgent, and reach with a connection of 28,8 Kbauds 5,000 news per hours. It can also find a maximum of 50,000 e-mail adresses from internet and send a message in 4 or 5 hours. You can obtain with this sofware the most powerful tool of mass transmittion on the internet. Robot Spy 1.0..................20 US$ Robot Mailer 1.1..............20 US$ Both..................................30 US$ I’m sorry i can’t accept credit card, but you can send an international money order to: Ben Hedi Nassef 1481 Ste-Catherine est #7 Montreal, PQ, H2L-2H9 Canada Don’t forget to include your e-mail on a paper, you receice the software ordered in your e-mail the day we receive the money order. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.apfel.de!univ-lyon1.fr!pasteur.fr!jussieu.fr!eurocontrol.fr!polaris.eurocontrol.fr!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: benh@hotmail.com (Future-NET) Message-ID: Subject: cmsg cancel <337b9601.3503281@bang-olufsen.dk> Control: cancel <337b9601.3503281@bang-olufsen.dk> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 23:36:25 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Approved: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr X-Cancelled-By: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Newsposter: cancel-spam version 1.22 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 9 ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. 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Date: Fri May 16 12:05:30 1997 Original subject was: Spy people on the Net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!univ-lyon1.fr!unice.fr!news.ceram.fr!cnusc.fr!ciril.fr!univ-angers.fr!jussieu.fr!eurocontrol.fr!polaris.eurocontrol.fr!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: interbbs@hotmail.com (Inter-BBS) Message-ID: Subject: cmsg cancel <337b32e1.3189494@bang-olufsen.dk> Control: cancel <337b32e1.3189494@bang-olufsen.dk> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:07:49 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Approved: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr X-Cancelled-By: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Newsposter: cancel-spam version 1.22 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 9 ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Fri May 16 12:22:56 1997 Original subject was: FreeNetAccessWorldwide #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-penn.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.NetVision.net.il!not-for-mail From: reuven@netvision.net.il (Reuven M. Lerner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Reading a NeXTSTEP CD from Linux Date: 16 May 1997 11:58:45 +0300 Organization: NetVision LTD. Lines: 26 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts010p8.pop4a.netvision.net.il X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 I have a NeXTstation color (non-turbo) that I haven't really used very much over the last few years, for a variety of reasons. But given all of the excitement surrounding NeXT, Apple, and the like, I have started to fire it up again, and I'm having a lot of fun with it. In any event, I now have my NeXT machine connected via thin Ethernet to a PC running Linux. Since the Linux box has a CD-ROM drive (while the NeXT does not), figured that I could upgrade from NS 3.2 to 3.3 by mounting the NeXTSTEP CD on my Linux box, exporting it using NFS to the NeXT machine, and upgrading to NS 3.3 in that way. Unfortunately, Linux doesn't seem to like the format of the NS 3.3 CD-ROM. When I try to mount it, Linux complains that it cannot find the CD's superblock. I have tried using mount with a number of different options, but nothing seems to work. I have tried to look at the CD using Windows '95, but that (predictably) couldn't handle the CD's format either. Is this plan hopeless? Will I have to find a SCSI CD-ROM drive to install NS 3.3? Or is there some way that I can convince Linux to view the CD, thus upgrading my beloved NeXT machine to a newer OS version? Thanks for any ideas people can offer! Reuven #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!newsfeed.internetmci.com!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cyberspam!usenet From: interbbs@hotmail.com (+Inter-BBS+) Reply-To: interbbs@hotmail.com Sender: nobody@firewall.bang-olufsen.dk Organization: Internet of the future Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <337b64ab.15935555@bang-olufsen.dk> Message-ID: Control: cancel <337b64ab.15935555@bang-olufsen.dk> Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de References: <337b64ab.15935555@bang-olufsen.dk> Lines: 3 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 12:29:04 +0100 X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes EMP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. The Breidbart index was 2557. See report "cybercity.hko.net/LA/interbbs" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: FreeNetAccessWorldwide!. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!feed1.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!news From: Maurice van Steensel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT 400 dpi printer toner Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:05:11 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Lines: 6 Message-ID: <337CDA17.455B@antrg.azn.nl> Reply-To: M.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: tr2f-069.azn.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Hi folks, Anyone know what kind of toner to use with NeXT 400 dpi printer? Thanks!! :-)Maurice #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!news.cc.ic.ac.uk!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: benh@hotmail.com (Future-NET) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <337b9601.3503281@bang-olufsen.dk> Control: cancel <337b9601.3503281@bang-olufsen.dk> Date: 16 May 1997 13:35:15 GMT Organization: Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Usenetters Lines: 1 Sender: nobody@firewall.bang-olufsen.dk Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sg1.cc.ic.ac.uk X-Subject: Spy people on the Net Death to Spam! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 400 dpi printer toner Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:32:45 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <337CDA17.455B@antrg.azn.nl> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Maurice van Steensel In-Reply-To: <337CDA17.455B@antrg.azn.nl> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Yes and you would too if you checked out the FAQ or read this group's archives... toner cartridge for HP Laserjet II, IID,III, IID HP ref : HP 92295A TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newshost.uni-koblenz.de!not-for-mail From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Reading a NeXTSTEP CD from Linux Date: 16 May 1997 15:00:35 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5lhsqj$bht$2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nihil.uni-koblenz.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) reuven@netvision.net.il (Reuven M. Lerner) wrote: > Is this plan hopeless? Will I have to find a SCSI CD-ROM drive to > install NS 3.3? Maybe yes. A NEXTSTEP installation CD doesn't conform to the usual ISO 9660 standard, but is "formatted" like a hard disk with a BSD 4.3 file system. I don't know if there is any implementation outside NeXT which would read such a CD. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.gwdg.de!not-for-mail From: Stephan Trebels Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Reading a NeXTSTEP CD from Linux Date: 16 May 1997 18:28:34 +0200 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <5lhsqj$bht$2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 apart from endianess and the offset for the disk label, it's a standard 4.3 (ufs in Linux) filesystem. one should ask for a modified ufs in the linux newsgroups. the problem is the same for next hd's and I'm quite sure, someone added these bits already. ciao, stephan -- Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) Email: Stephan Trebels Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel: +49 551 201 1 454 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bconnex.net!clicnet!news.clic.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!web.cae.ca!not-for-mail From: Michel Belisle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 13:14:54 -0400 Organization: CAE Electronique Ltee Lines: 18 Message-ID: <337C960E.3B75@cae.ca> References: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> <5kv2vr$ase@papoose.quick.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pcs52.cae.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) I suggest you take a look at Power Computing or DayStar. Power Computing has the fastest clones; they are usually ahead of Apple in terms of processor speed. They load their machines with big L2 caches and the best part is that you can configure them the way you want. Check out their online store: http://store.powercc.com. DayStar is selling multiprocessor mammoths! ;-) They sell 2-4 processor machines that kick anyone's ass for running Photoshop. If you feel like spending $10K on a box there the ones to check. Their URL: http://www.daystar.com. Enjoy. -- *********************************************************** Michel Bélisle Voice: (514) 341-2000 x3694 CAE Electronique Ltée E-Mail: mbelisle@cae.ca St-Laurent, Qc, Canada WWW: http://www.cae.ca *********************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mindspring!usenet From: ilk@mindspring.com (Chris Mullins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXT CUBE FOR SALE Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:27:14 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 25 Message-ID: <337cb4e9.20185685@news.mindspring.com> Reply-To: ilk@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kbngl.dialup.mindspring.com X-Server-Date: 16 May 1997 19:24:01 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 NEXT CUBE FOR SALE I have a NeXt cube with one system board for sale. It comes with: 2 17” Megapixel Monitors 1 N2000 Laser Printer Mouse and Keyboard. Cost is $499 Plus Shipping. I am not familiar with NeXt and can not tell you much about it, It has the NeXt mach OS and seems to have software still on it. I have the monitor cable (special ordered) but do not have a cable for the printer. All items are in excellent condition. It was being used at GaTech before I bought it. If you have any questions please call me at 770.420.5202 -Chris Mullins I also have 19” Fixed Scan Monitors for sale. Made by Hitachi: they come with a 128 Bit PCI Accelerator with 2.26 MB of ram. I am selling these at $549 plus shipping. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!207.25.192.30!iagnews.iagnet.net!tlawriw From: tsnSSSmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE!#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Fri, 16 May 97 22:43:16 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5lino7$9dm$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm17-18.stratos.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.aol-sucks:124573 alt.bbs.internet:61160 alt.business:248513 alt.business.misc:316661 alt.business.multi-level:291199 alt.internet.access.wanted:46307 alt.internet.services:101360 alt.misc:62170 alt.online-service:24637 alt.online-service.america-online:21402 alt.online-service.compuserve:19401 alt.online-service.freenet:2945 alt.online-service.genie:7721 alt.online-service.microsoft:6750 alt.online-service.prodigy:36553 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:73818 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:28994 comp.sys.mac.portables:88008 comp.sys.misc:5804 comp.sys.next.hardware:28853 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17606 comp.sys.next.misc:25863 misc.entrepreneurs:278037 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11645 Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.psrinc.com!not-for-mail From: Information Subject: Metrics Message-ID: <5107cd$121c4.1fc@news.psrinc.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 02:28:04 GMT Reply-To: Great Site Lines: 2 Great Site URL:http://www.psrinc.com/metsys.htm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshub.csu.net!news.Cerritos.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!kofa.as.arizona.edu!not-for-mail From: tom@kofa.as.arizona.edu (Tom Trebisky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with Next N4001 monitor Date: 16 May 1997 18:18:48 -0700 Organization: Steward Observatory, Tucson, Arizona Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5lj11o$bls@kofa.as.arizona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: kofa.as.arizona.edu Hello to you Next hardware experts! My local used computer shop has 3 nice looking Next monitors for sale (I don't have a Next cube, but...). I would like to know what resolution and sync rates might be on these (they look like nice monitors, and I am considering buying them if they could be used for example with a sun workstation or on a PC with the appropriate video shenanigans. Here is the info: Next model N4001 mega-pixel 17 inch monitor, number C1761NU, manufactured 1991-1992. Has a 13W3 connector on the back and a flat black case (surprise!). Will these do 1152x900 pixels at 61.8 Khz Hsync, 66Hz Vsync? Does Next do separate H and V sync or composite, or what? Many thanks in advance for any information. -- Tom Trebisky Steward Observatory ttrebisky@as.arizona.edu University of Arizona http://kofa.as.arizona.edu/ Tucson, Arizona 85721 (520) 621-5135 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!news From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz drive problems with NEXTSTEP Date: 17 May 1997 00:31:07 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5liu8b$34a@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pas-ca10-15.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri May 16 7:31:07 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20003-05 We have been having problems with JAZ drives and would like to hear about other people's experiences for comparison. First JAZ drive: Used successfully once; second time around, it won't even power up; was returned and given a new drive Second JAZ drive: basically the same experience as above. We may have used it a third time before the above occurred. Vicki Bragin -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin E-mail: vbragin@ix.netcom.com Pasadena City College, 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena,CA Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) ********************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5107cd$121c4.1fc@news.psrinc.com> Date: 17 May 1997 01:55:34 GMT Control: cancel <5107cd$121c4.1fc@news.psrinc.com> Message-ID: Sender: Information X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nexnet1996@aol.com (NEXNET1996) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT machines Date: 16 May 1997 23:49:02 GMT Lines: 9 Message-ID: <19970517034900.XAA24958@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Can anyone send me pictures of the different NeXT machines or point me in a direction (to a web page) which has pictures. I want to get a NeXT machine I used while at University of Maryland but I dont know which one it is until I look at it. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Mark #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nexnet1996@aol.com (NEXNET1996) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FAQ for this newsgroup Date: 16 May 1997 23:49:46 GMT Lines: 5 Message-ID: <19970517034900.XAA25030@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Can someone send me the FAQ for this newsgroup, I cannot find it anywhere. Thanks for any help Mark #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!CERN.ch!news From: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch (Wolfgang Lerche) Subject: Adaptec2940U noboot X-Nntp-Posting-Host: pb-s-4-2-49-4-1.cern.ch Message-ID: Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 08:05:48 GMT Lines: 30 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28859 de.comp.sys.next:13990 Hello, I am to install NS3.3 on an Intel VS440FX PPro MB with an Adaptec2940U controller. There is a SCSI drive and a SCSI SONY-CDROM CDU-415 (SCSI ID 1). After following the instrutions, booting from the floppy, I get the well-known problem: "Adaptec2940: cannot get configSpace: ABORTING no SCSI drive or CD ROM found." I did use the latest (v3.37) driver, though - it loads from the floppy without problem. Actually I was successfully installing in the past an Adaptec2940U/W (not U) on another machine, which initially had the same problem -- but that went away exactly by using the (v3.37) driver. (The only other difference was an ATAPI CD-ROM). I checked that the Adapter works fine under windoze. Can somebody tell what to do here ? Thanks ! W. Lerche CERN lerche@nxth04.cern.ch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help with Next N4001 monitor Date: 17 May 1997 10:49:35 GMT Lines: 8 Message-ID: <19970517144900.KAA27557@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5lj11o$bls@kofa.as.arizona.edu> i have a 13w3 to vga convetor cable if that would help you reutilize you monitors on pc. $65 and credit card 13w3 male to vga (male or female) UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: Tom ONeil Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compaq/SCSI Resets!! Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:44:45 -0500 Organization: Microsoftically Impaired Lines: 25 Message-ID: <337DE07D.505D@ix.netcom.com.NOSPAM> Reply-To: oneilts@ix.netcom.com.NOSPAM NNTP-Posting-Host: ftw-tx5-13.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sat May 17 11:43:26 AM CDT 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) To ALL; I have tried to load 3.3 on a 5210E, 4000, and Compaq tower of some kind and they all do the same thing - "resetting scsi bus AHA timeout" The controller, Adaptec 1540C, the CD(s) - NEC 6x & 8x & a Sony - all work great loading HP vectra's and IBM boxes. I'm using the driver from the CD for the Adaptec, and tried w/ both an IDE drive and driver and all SCSI. Is this a Compaq thing? Is there a special driver I need? We have over 1,000 Compaqs and the PC techs are somewhat loathe to support another platform, so I'd like to get it to run on one and lose the the other ones. Will sell 'em cheap if I can get it to work. P.S. - Great O/S - the NT gang is all knotted up. E Pluribus Unix -- Thomas J. ONeil oneilts@ix.netcom.com Dallas, Tx. USA UFO's are real - the Air Force doesn't exist. My apologies for the NOSPAM on the return address, but I pay for the disk space, not them. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-penn.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!wesley.videotron.net!wagner.spc.videotron.ca!not-for-mail From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz drive problems with NEXTSTEP Date: 17 May 1997 16:45:47 GMT Organization: SPC Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5lknbr$m9s$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> References: <5liu8b$34a@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp45.collegeleboeuf.qc.ca In-Reply-To: <5liu8b$34a@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00121-01 On 05/16/97, Vicki Bragin wrote: > We have been having problems with JAZ drives and would like to hear > about other people's experiences for comparison. > > First JAZ drive: Used successfully once; second time around, it > won't even power up; was returned and given a new drive > > Second JAZ drive: basically the same experience as above. We may > have used it a third time before the above occurred. > > Vicki Bragin > -- > ********************************************************** > Victoria M. Bragin E-mail: vbragin@ix.netcom.com > Pasadena City College, 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena,CA > Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 > (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) > ********************************************************** We have been running 2 Jaz drives on 2 different Intel machines running on NS 3.3 for 7 months now and we have NEVER encountered any problems whatsoever. Both drives work perfectly. They also worked on our old Cubes. -André SCRIBEX COMMUNICATIONS - Localization & Distribution Montreal, Qc E-Mail: info@scribex.com (NeXTMail - MIME - ASCII ) URL: www.scribex.com ============================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 17:00:38 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5l0jbf$48a8@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po8.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5l0jbf$48a8@news.doit.wisc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-May-97 Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for .. by bestor@cs.wisc.edu >> That's right, but the doubled internal clock has to apply to the >> instruction cycle time-- the rate at which opcodes get executed. >> Although a 33 MHz 68040 uses a 66 MHz clock internally (for pipeline >> stage timing, presumably), it only executes opcodes at 33 MHz, and not >> at 66 MHz. > > If the pipeline is clocked at 66MHz then isn't the execution rate > the same, assuming the ideal that instruction can be fed into the > pipeline one per cycle? The pipeline in a 33 MHz 68040 accepts instructions at a rate of 33 MHz. > My impression from the 68040 User Manual was the "processor clock" was > 66MHz and the "bus clock" was 33MHz, at least that is what it said. Right. They probably use the doubled processor clock internally within the pipeline stages (for example, it makes forwarding to avoid stalling considerably easier). >>> Oh, another minor correction: >>> ...a 486DX2/66 _does_ execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. >> >>Modulo the L1 and L2 caches-- you've got to have a loop which fits in >>the L1 cache... > > Sigh - another good joke gone to waste... Oh, well. You can't get them all.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!tdanaher.demon.co.uk!tdanaher.demon.co.uk!user From: tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! ColorStation Turbo won't start up Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 00:07:38 +0100 Organization: TelaArch Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tdanaher.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tdanaher.demon.co.uk [194.222.58.50] Lines: 17 My colorstation turbo hung whilst copying a file in Workspace, wouldn,t let me log out. Pressed power key and got to the NMI monitor. Typed 'reboot'. Drive makes a few (very few) read/write noises at start, but now the System doesn't get past "loading from disk..'. The animated icon just keeps spinning. System was purchased 4 weeks ago from a reseller. The disk (Conner 540, i believe) is new. Any ideas, pointers, etc. would be gratefully received. Thanks in advance Tim Danaher tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can you use NS 3.3 installation disk to install OS 4.1 on mo Date: 17 May 1997 16:47:53 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5llg39$g93@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Can one use a NS 3.3 installation disk to install OS 4.1 on black? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!newsvr.cyberway.com.sg!ftpsvr.cyberway.com.sg!u02s1 From: yongly@cyberway.com.sg (yong lai yong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CONSULT ME Date: 12 May 1997 07:25:49 GMT Organization: altron Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5l6glt$nfh$39@ftpsvr.cyberway.com.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.116.79.6 X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 I have a team that specialise in: 1. Web page creation - internet and intranet 2. Setup, upgrade,service and repair of computers 3. Consultation and Training services of all application softwares. Therefore, if you are thinking of establishing a web presence in the World Wide Web,or if you want to upgrade your current pc and if you want to apply for training or consultation services, please contact me at once. I will answer all your computer problems. My home on the Net is: http://www.cyberway.com.sg/~yongly Hear from you soon! laiyong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!news.navigator.de!not-for-mail From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.1 for Intel - Drivers for new hardware Date: 17 May 1997 12:20:11 GMT Organization: Navigator Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5lk7pr$4c4$1@radjah.navigator.de> References: <3379393B.167E@kouzlo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: marsu.navigator.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: jrs@kouzlo.com In <3379393B.167E@kouzlo.com> Jim Stutt wrote: > I have the original CDs for NS and Developer for version 3.1 (the > original Intel version). I have a spare PC with: > > P166 CPU > 32MB RAM > ATI Mach 64 PCI 2MB VRAM > Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI > TOSHIBA 2X CD > Logitech 3 button mouse > > Is there any way to get drivers to be able to install the 3.1 > CDs on this PC? No. There's no PCI support in 3.1 at all. Upgrade to 3.3 or forget about it. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ac.net!news.serv.net!gaea.omnigroup.com!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <8856863323226@digifix.com> Date: 18 May 1997 03:57:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <16065863928021@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:68480 comp.sys.next.announce:4197 comp.sys.next.hardware:28868 comp.sys.next.software:29570 comp.sys.next.misc:25878 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26739 comp.sys.next.bugs:4319 comp.sys.next.programmer:24477 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### From: windy@sea Subject: live wire Organization: dkf56 Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 05:28:48 -0700 Lines: 3 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!moosecat.mooselogic.com x-no-archive:yes please click on http://www.webcom.com/h49tld20/index.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seek NeXT Station measurements Date: 17 May 1997 22:23:54 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5lm3pa$4se@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, What are the measurments of a NeXT Station ? Someday I might want to purchase a Color machine and I'm wondering if the Pizza Box will fit in my black audio cabinet. Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### From: grape@matrix.teuto.de (Timo Hoepfner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Reading a NeXTSTEP CD from Linux Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 20:31:00 +0200 Organization: PoP teuto.net Bielefeld Lines: 22 Message-ID: <199705172031001227648@[192.168.0.2]> References: <5lhsqj$bht$2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.77.62.40 X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.touch.net!news.infostar.de!news2.planetc.com!news.planetc.com!news.isdn.net!isdnlin.mtsu.edu!hubcap.clemson.edu!gatech!EU.net!main.Germany.EU.net!Hanover.Germany.EU.net!Hamburg.Germany.EU.net!news.netuse.de!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!linteuto.teuto.de!grape Marcel Bresink wrote: > reuven@netvision.net.il (Reuven M. Lerner) wrote: > > Is this plan hopeless? Will I have to find a SCSI CD-ROM drive to > > install NS 3.3? > > Maybe yes. A NEXTSTEP installation CD doesn't conform to the usual ISO 9660 > standard, but is "formatted" like a hard disk with a BSD 4.3 file system. I > don't know if there is any implementation outside NeXT which would read such > a CD. > > Marcel There is a filesystem for Linux called U2FS, which can at least read NeXT formatted Floppies, but it doesn't read NeXT CDs... Maybe the author plans to include CD-ROM support in the future. AFAIK, NeXT uses the same filesystem for floppies and CDs. Bye Timo --- Timo Hoepfner - grape@matrix.teuto.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 00:51:12 -0600 From: Rene Berber Subject: Re: Jaz drive problems with NEXTSTEP Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <863934238.13942@dejanews.com> Reply-To: rberber@spin.com.mx Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun May 18 05:43:59 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 200.12.165.136 (verbum32.spin.com.mx) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: Rene Berber Lines: 33 Vicki Bragin wrote: > We have been having problems with JAZ drives and would like to hear > about other people's experiences for comparison. > > First JAZ drive: Used successfully once; second time around, it > won't even power up; was returned and given a new drive > > Second JAZ drive: basically the same experience as above. We may > have used it a third time before the above occurred. After one month of using a jaz drive I've had no problems. Installation was a little weird: I had to put my zip drive before the jaz on the scsi chain to avoid boot problems. The computer just freezes otherwise. The manual for the zip drive says something about putting slower drives first. Other than that, no problem. I installed NeXTStep on a jaz disk and booted from it just to test if it can be used in case of trouble. Another disk is used for storing about 400 MB of data. Your problem description definitely seems to point to a hardware problem, it could be as easy as the power supply. Regards, --- Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel Date: 18 May 1997 05:21:16 GMT Control: cancel Message-ID: Sender: windy@sea X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!myriad!mail From: "Charles Ismora" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [HEEELP] Next Printer not recognized Date: 18 May 1997 03:07:49 -0400 Organization: Mail to Usenet Gateway Lines: 37 Message-ID: <199705162218.PAA01507@f40.hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [195.232.73.194] To: comp.sys.next.hardware@myriad.alias.net Hello, I just get an used NeXT Printer. The problem is that my slab (68040 non turbo, NS3.1) doesn't recognize it ! The symptoms are : - the slabs starts the printer at boot time - nppower on/off works but - although the user manuals tell that a new printer will be automatically added, no new printer appears - in the PrintManager printer creation dialog box, the NeXT 400dpi printer type is greyed, so that I can't even create one ! The only things in user manuals being that it must work automatically, this leaves very little room to test things and see where the problem resides ... So any suggestion is welcomed ; can it come from a hardware problem (dead part in the printer so that the slab see that it is not usable ?), or from the OS configuration ? Thanks for help, Ismora. PS: thank you for answering by mailto:c_ismora@hotmail.com as I cannot read the news. --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!haven.umd.edu!hecate.umd.edu!not-for-mail From: franklin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: More Money$$$ Read Here!!! Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 19:24:22 -0700 Organization: University of Maryland Lines: 191 Message-ID: <337FB9D6.74A8@hotmail.com> Reply-To: yzm@hotmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ps11ugli.wam.umd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="MONEY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Content-Disposition: inline; filename="MONEY.TXT" If you find this post offensive, please accept my apologies to you and your newsgroup. Hi, Would you be interested in making thousands of dollars quickly and legally? If your answer is YES, then take 5 minutes to read this article. It will change your life. You can make up to or more than $50,000 dollars in 4-6 weeks, maybe sooner! I'M NOT JOKING AND THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A SCAM! The internet has grown tremendously and it continues to double in size every 4 months. Think about it: You see all those "make.money.fast" posts more and more often. That's just simply because it works!! I was browsing around my newsgroups one morning and I stumbled across this article. Since I have this burning desire to make a lot of money and this headline caught my attention, I read it. It said that you send $1.00 to each of the five(5) names on the list. You then place your own name and address stated in the article at the bottom of the list at the #5 position and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups (there are literally thousands of them, and this doesn't take as much work as you think). At first I thought, nobody's going to do this. And then I thought, what if they DO! Besides, what's five bucks anyway? I spend that on snacks a few times a week. Well, it's still hard to believe...but two weeks later I began receiving bucks in the mail! I mean a lot of money!!! It not only works for me, but it works extremely well for others as well. Mike Ochoa says he made $35,382 dollars in one month! Julie Chanter made $42,000 in four weeks!!! Dave Manning made an incredible $53,664 dollars in four short weeks!!! And Lars Myers says he only made $21,000 dollars (ONLY!!?) That's the article. Now do I know all these people? No. But when I read how they did it, it started to make a lot of sense to me. As a matter of fact, it made enough sense that I'm now taking a similar chance with $5 measley dollars of my own. Not a huge investment that I can't afford to lose, but one with incredible potential to deliver money to my mailbox!!! Can you imagine making $20,000 dollars or more for less than an hour's work? What are you making now? All you ever have to spend is five bucks and postage for the envelopes. That's all Mike, Dave, Chanter and Lars did and look what happened to them: they made tens of thousands of dollars in a safe, legal and completely legitimate way. Let me show you how and why this works now. Also, make sure you print a copy of this article so you get the information from it and START MAKING MONEY NOW!!! here goes: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each sheet of the paper...."PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST". Fold a US $1 bill inside each paper {wrap the bill with the paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope. Otherwise nosy people, who like to steal envelopes with money in them will see the bill and swipe your profits! Put one paper inside an enveolope and seal it. Do the same for all five. You should now have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper and a US $1 bill stuffed inside of the paper. You're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're actually paying for a legitimate service which is PERFECTLY LEGAL! Now, mail all 5 envelopes to the following 5 addresses: 1. T.H. 5548 Airview Ct. Las Vegas, NV 89113 2. Z.M. 3939 Bidwell Dr. Apt.452 Fremont CA 94538 3. K.B. 856 S. Beechgrove Rd. Wilmington, OH 45177 4. Y. Zhengmao 1010 Harlan CT San Jose, CA 95129 5. Z.W.Y 10118 highridge Rd. laurel MD 20723 Step 2 Now remove the top name from the list that you see above and move the other names up ( #5 becoming #4, #4 becoming #3, and so on) and put your name and address as the fifth on the list. Step 3 Post/send the amended article (with your name at #5 in the list) to at least 200 newsgroups. This is the REALLY IMPORTANT part, so don't try to shortcut it. I'll explain more about this under the WHY it works part. (you can also send by irc or e-mail). Post/send as many newsgroups as possible. REMEMBER THIS!!!!! THE MORE GROUPS YOU SEND/POST to, the more people will see your article and send you cash. That's the real power of this business. You are now in business for yourself, and you should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days!!! HOW TO POST THIS ARTICLE: If you have Netscape 3.0 do EXACTLY the following: 1. Click on any newsgroups like normal, then click on 'TO NEWS' which is on the far left when you're in the newsgroups page. This will bring up a box to type a message in. 2. Leave the newsgroup box like it is, just CHANGE the subject to something flashy, such as "NEED CASH $$$ READ HERE $$$" OR "FAST CASH!!" 3. Tab once and you should be ready to post. Cut and paste this article exactly as it appears,except to insert your name at #5, and to remove #1 off the list, plus any other small changes that you might think you need to make. Keep most of it the same though. You don't want to change it too much--it's proven to work just as it is written! 4. When you're done typing the WHOLE article, click on FILE IN THIS BOX, RIGHT ABOVE SEND, NOW WHERE IT SAYS NETSCAPE NEWS ON THE FIRST BOX. Click and SAVE AS when you're under FILE. Save your article as a text file to your C: or A; drive. DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTIL YOU DO THIS. Once saved move on to number 5 below. 5. If you still have all of your text, send or post to this newsgroup now by clicking send, which is right below FILE, and right above Cc: 6. Here's where you're going to post all 200. OK, click on any newsgroup then click on "TO NEWS", again in the top left corner. Leave the NEWSGROUPS BOX alone again, put a flashy subject title in the SUBJECT BOX, hit TAB once you're in the body of the message, and then click on ATTACHEMENTS. You will get another box to come up. Click on ATTACHED FILE, and then find your file that you have saved earlier; click once on the file, and then click OPEN. NOW CLICK ON OK; if you did this right, you should be able to see your name in the attachements box and it will be shaded green. 7. That's it. Each time you do this, all you have to do is type in a different newsgroup, so that way, it posts to 200 DIFFERENT newsgroups, you see? Now you only have 199 more to go!!! (don't worry, each one takes about 30 seconds once you get used to it). REMEMBER 200 IS THE MINIMUM. You are now in the mail order business and will start receiving your #1 envelopes from various people all over the world within days. HINT: THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST TO, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE! Incredibly simple, isn't it? LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SYSTEM WORKS!!!!! Out of every 200 postings, let's say I only receive 5 replies, which is VERY LOW. So I made $5 with my name at #5. I've already made my money back! Now then, each person who just sent me $1 makes 200 postings, now with your name at #4, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 1000 postings, not including your own. Say 50 people send you $1 now, which again, is a very low response rate; that's $50 you made! Now then, your 50 new agents post 200 listings each with YOUR NAME AT NUMBER #3, or 10,000 postings (25 x 200). That's just how the system works at its worst case. However, the average return is 500 responses at $1 each. That's $500 in your pocket!! Each of your new agents makes 200 postings, which is 5,000 returns at $1 each, which is $5,000 dollars!! And finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings with YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 1, YOU NOW GET A RETURN OF $50,000 BEFORE YOUR NAME DROPS OFF THE LIST, AND THAT'S IF EVERYONE MAKES 200 POSTINGS ONLY, AND WITH ONLY A 5 PERSON RESPOND!!!!! When your name is no longer in the list, you just take the latest posting that is appearing in the newsgroups, and SEND OUT ANOTHER $1 TO 5 people in the list, putting your name at #5 again. And start posting again. The thing to realize is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday, just like you are right now!!! So, can you afford $5 dollars and see if it really works? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users everyday. REMEMBER: WORK THIS FAIRLY AND HONESTLY AND IT WILL WORK! THE BASIC IDEA IS FOR EVERYONE TO MAKE MONEY. GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO PARTICIPATE, AND PLEASE, PLAY FAIRLY AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED! DON'T put this off!! It's SOOOO EASY and SIMPLE, so do it RIGHT NOW You won't be sorry! *You may also want to get some bulk e-mail software to help the process along even faster. P.S. If you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the $5 to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months.) Then he sent the 5 bills and was added to their lists. In 4 - 5 weeks, he had in excess of $10,000! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <337FB978.7B24@hotmail.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <337FB978.7B24@hotmail.com> no reply ignore Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 23:32:23 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: a X-Orig-Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 19:22:48 -0700 Sender: franklin X-Orig-Subject: More Money$$$ Read Here!!! Lines: 2 ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <337FB9D6.74A8@hotmail.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <337FB9D6.74A8@hotmail.com> no reply ignore Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 23:32:27 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: a X-Orig-Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 19:24:22 -0700 Sender: franklin X-Orig-Subject: More Money$$$ Read Here!!! Lines: 2 ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.sprintlink.net!news-atl-21.sprintlink.net!news.vt.com!anderson.vt.com!user From: colin@anderson.vt.com (Colin Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT manuals/books? Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:17:47 -0600 Organization: Valley Tech Corporation Customer Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: anderson.vt.com Hi, I'm yet another Mac user that bought a secondhand (manual-less) NeXTstation (Mono, non-turbo). While I have been able to install a few shareware apps onto this machine, I would like to learn how to do more with it. What books are/were available for the NeXTstation? What kinds of manuals came with the NeXTstation and where could I order them? Thanks, Colin Anderson colin@anderson.vt.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!wilbur.sequent.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.BSDI.COM!bad-news.harborcom.net!iagnews.iagnet.net!tlawriw From: tsnSSSmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.invest.penny-stocks,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.memory Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE@@@@@@@@ Date: Sun, 18 May 97 20:08:22 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5lnnd7$rv6$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm16-6.stratos.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.aol-sucks:124916 alt.bbs.internet:61294 alt.business:249453 alt.business.misc:317643 alt.business.multi-level:292081 alt.internet.access.wanted:46355 alt.internet.services:101548 alt.invest.penny-stocks:6387 alt.misc:62464 alt.online-service:24675 alt.online-service.america-online:21422 alt.online-service.compuserve:19423 alt.online-service.freenet:2951 alt.online-service.genie:7728 alt.online-service.microsoft:6766 alt.online-service.prodigy:36590 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:73946 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:29023 comp.sys.mac.portables:88118 comp.sys.misc:5813 comp.sys.next.hardware:28877 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17619 comp.sys.next.misc:25884 misc.entrepreneurs:278674 misc.forsale.computers.memory:71083 Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 16:51:14 -0600 From: Rene Berber Subject: Re: Gatekeeper/PPP help needed Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <863991466.11980@dejanews.com> Reply-To: rberber@spin.com.mx Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun May 18 21:37:46 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 200.13.81.37 (orion05.spin.com.mx) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: Rene Berber Lines: 20 cmoore wrote: ... > if so how do i get the mouse to work with the new serial drivers. > the config program wont even exit properly unless the 3.0 driver is > loaded. > You have to install the new driver for each port in Configure. You end up with two lines in the "Other services" screen, one says "Serial Port #1 (v3.33)" and the other says "Serial Port #2 (v3.33)". Configure takes care of the IRQs and port addresses automagically. Don't forget to install the "TTY Port Server", also version 3.33. --- Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!wirehead From: wirehead@netcom.com (David J Harr) Subject: Drivers for 3COM EtherLink XL PCI under OpenStep 4.x for Intel Message-ID: Summary: need drivers for network card Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 01:08:05 GMT Lines: 32 Sender: wirehead@netcom.netcom.com I have been spending way too much time trying to get my Intel machine up and running w/ OS 4.2, instead of programming it to prove it is a superior development environment to my boss. I have gotten through all the gotchas, but one, and this one is a doozy. We have bought a whole boatload of 3COM EtherLink XL PCI cards to run as our ethernet cards in our PCs, The nice thing about these cards is that they are switchable 10-BaseT/100-BaseT. However, try as I might, I seem to be unable to get the system to recognize the card. As a stopgap, I have gone back to one of our old EtherLink III ISA cards, which the system recognizes just fine. However, this is a less than optimal solution, as this machine will be acting as a server for our development efforts if I can prove the worth of the development environment, and having a server on a 10-BaseT connection while all the clients are on 100-BaseT connection is a rather paradoxical if not downright perverse state of affairs... If anyone knows of any compatible drivers for this card, I would be very grateful if you would contact me, or leave word in this newsgroup if you feel the answer is of general interest. Thanks, David David J Harr soldier of misfortune wirehead@netcom.com "We crash your computer, so you don't have to!" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!chi-news.cic.net!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: removable media eject panel problem Date: 18 May 1997 22:33:15 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5lo03b$16v2@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: f181-049.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) At work we have a P133 running NS3.3 unpatched. Friday we upgraded the SCSI controller from a 1540 to a 2940 and added a second hard drive. Today when I was backing the system up onto a Fujitsu DynaMO 230 MB drive the system locked up while I was merging a directory on a particular MO disk. After rebooting, the system displays the following odd behavior. The DynaMO seems to work OK now but after a disk is dragged to the recycler or the Workspace icon is control clicked, the disk ejects, but a workspace panel briefly shows up asking me to eject the disk (presumably manually). It seems as though the DynaMO may be about to die or the new 2940 is defective . Has anyone seen similar behavior before and know what is happening? I'd like to replace the DynaMO as soon as possible before total failure if it's on its way out. Perhaps it only needs some cleaning? In case you're wondering, I know of two different machines with the same configuration (2940 and DynaMO and NS3.3 unpatched) that don't have problems so it's not the general configuration that's at fault. Thanks. -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison Ted.Allen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!news.navigator.de!not-for-mail From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Adaptec2940U noboot Date: 18 May 1997 08:20:16 GMT Organization: Navigator Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5lme40$lue$1@radjah.navigator.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: marsu.navigator.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28881 de.comp.sys.next:13992 In Wolfgang Lerche wrote: > Hello, > > I am to install NS3.3 on an Intel > VS440FX PPro MB with an Adaptec2940U controller. > There is a SCSI drive and a SCSI SONY-CDROM CDU-415 > (SCSI ID 1). > > After following the instrutions, booting > from the floppy, I get the well-known problem: > "Adaptec2940: cannot get configSpace: ABORTING > no SCSI drive or CD ROM found." > > I did use the latest (v3.37) driver, though - > it loads from the floppy without problem. The brand new 2940U models have a PCI ID strings which is not listed in driver release 3.37. However, you can add the device ID yourself in the driver's Default.table: "Auto Detect IDs" = "0x70789004 0x71789004 0x72789004 0x73789004 0x74789004 0x75 789004 0x76789004 0x77789004 0x78789004 0x79789004 0x7a789004 0x7b789004 0x7c789 004 0x7d789004 0x7e789004 0x50789004 0x51789004 0x80789004 0x81789004 0x61789004 "; Watch for the IDs printed at boot time - mine has 0x61789004. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seek NeXT Station measurements Date: 19 May 1997 04:15:52 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5lok5o$m52@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5lm3pa$4se@slip.net> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: port2.cisco1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5lm3pa$4se@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > > Hi, > > What are the measurments of a NeXT Station ? > > Someday I might want to purchase a Color machine > and I'm wondering if the Pizza Box will fit > in my black audio cabinet. > > Thanks, > > Emmett > > assuming you're installing it in a 19" rack, you should have ~1.5" on each side left over for cooling. but it will be difficult to access the floppy drive ;-). probably a bad idea...besides it looks cool out in the open. BTW it's about (h x d x w) 2.5" x 14.375" x 15.75" (not counting the monitor, sound box, keyboard and mouse(pad). You'll want to leave 6"-7" in the back for the monitor cable to loop -- well that's for 2-bit display, the sound box (12-bit display) cable is different... -- Rick Sanford Dental Records[R] dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SMP support in Openstep 4.x for Mach / Intel Date: 19 May 1997 06:45:34 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5losue$pve$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu Does Openstep 4.x for Mach on Intel (especially the version 4.2 given out at WWDC) utilize multiple x86 processors (e.g., dual Pentium Pro or Pentium II systems) ? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!wolves!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: ggw@wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory G. Woodbury) Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.invest.penny-stocks,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.memory Subject: cmsg cancel <5lnnd7$rv6$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Control: cancel <5lnnd7$rv6$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 05:09:44 GMT Organization: My Own Usenet Node! Lines: 7 Approved: news Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: s-ggw.cs.duke.edu X-Cancelled-By: news@wolves.durham.nc.us <5lnnd7$rv6$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> was canceled for being SPAM in an inappropriate place. -- Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury `-_-' Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us U "The Line Eater is a Hug your wolf. (Thanks Peter!) Boojum Snark" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!hades.rz.uni-sb.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!news.btx.dtag.de!not-for-mail From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,microsoft.public.hardware Subject: Re: CDD2600+Advansys+GEAR 4.0 Date: 13 May 1997 22:18:15 GMT Organization: Gehle Software Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5lapb7$vlg$1@news01.btx.dtag.de> References: <022c7aad$7b179a40$LocalHost@isa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0295399126-0001@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1I [de] (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.periphs.scsi:78394 comp.publish.cdrom.hardware:34648 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom:48818 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:109675 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:56622 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:73971 comp.sys.next.hardware:28884 Re: CDD2600+Advansys+GEAR 4.0 Try CDDesigner.app for NextStep and OPENSTEP available at http://www.ip-service.com/gehle Greetings Carsten Gehle (GehleSoftware@t-online.de) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!news.btx.dtag.de!not-for-mail From: Harald.Kossow@t-online.de (Harald Kossow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DoveFaxmodem Driver Date: 13 May 1997 10:10:08 GMT Organization: Telekom Online Internet Gateway Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5l9em0$nt1$1@news01.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0422166403-0001@t-online.de (Kossow u. Reher) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 DT [de]C-DT (Win16; I) Hi Is there anyone who get a new eMail Adress or something else from "Dove Computer Corporation"? I need a new driver for the DoveFaxmodem (9600/2400). I only have the Rev. 1.00 from 1991. My Problem is, to tell the modem to "ignore dialtone" (ATX3), cause it runs now on telecomunication equipment, where I must dial a 0 (zero) to get a dialtone. I have heard, its possible to patch a driver. But therefor the driver must be Rev. 1.01 and not Rev. 1.00. thanks for help Harald PS: It runs on a NeXT-Mono-Station with NeXT Step 3.2. ________________________________________ Harald Kossow Kossow, Computer & mehr Harald.Kossow@t-online.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SMP support in Openstep 4.x for Mach / Intel Date: 19 May 1997 08:26:45 GMT Organization: WolfWare Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5lp2s5$5d5$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5losue$pve$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: cwolf.vip.best.com In-Reply-To: <5losue$pve$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00127-01 On 05/18/97, Karl Pfleger wrote: >Does Openstep 4.x for Mach on Intel (especially the version 4.2 given out >at WWDC) utilize multiple x86 processors (e.g., dual Pentium Pro or >Pentium II systems) ? No 4.2pr2 does not support MP. You'll have to wait for Rhapsody to get MP support on Mach (definitely on PPC, presumably on Intel as well). >-Karl > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-hk.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!imsp009a.netvigator.com!locker From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Microsoft Office 97 costs US$45 ? Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 04:48:46 GMT Organization: Netvigator Lines: 60 Message-ID: <5lpi7q$ntb@imsp009a.netvigator.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hhtam010039.netvigator.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? CorelDraw 7.0! only costs US$45? Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . 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Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-hk.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!imsp009a.netvigator.com!locker From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 04:54:32 GMT Organization: Netvigator Lines: 60 Message-ID: <5lpiil$u25@imsp009a.netvigator.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hhtam010039.netvigator.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center #################################################################### From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 05:01:00 GMT Organization: Netvigator Lines: 60 Message-ID: <5lpiuo$3d6@imsp009a.netvigator.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hhtam010039.netvigator.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-hk.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news2.hkt.net!news.hkt.net.!imsp009a.netvigator.com!locker Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!clintdw From: clintdw@netcom.com (Clinton Wong) Subject: MegaPixel and Sun? Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #9 Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:11:32 GMT Lines: 6 Sender: clintdw@netcom12.netcom.com Has anyone been able to get a MegaPixel monitor to work with a Sun workstation? The connectors look the same... but I don't have any Sun hardware to try it out. Regards, Clinton #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: boot cube from floppy? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:36:25 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 18 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) I have a cube with a newly installed floppy drive. I've ordered an offici= al NeXT ribbon cable for it but I've found one that seems to work to some= degree (powering off the cube causes the floppy to eject at least so the= re's some communication going on). The hard drive inside the cube is completely blank. I would like to boot = from the floppy so I can begin the install from the CD. = How do I tell the cube to boot from floppy? At present I'm getting a mess= age that there it is attempting to load from disc and then reports a SCSI= error. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!filoli.filoli.com!filoli.com!not-for-mail From: thompson@filoli.com (Peter Thompson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I write to an recording CD? Date: 19 May 1997 17:39:38 GMT Organization: Filoli Information Systems Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5lq38q$sta$1@news.filoli.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: akhelos.filoli.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi Folks, I bought the HP SureStore CDR in the hopes of providing longterm storage of my sources. However, whenever I try to load a blank CD into the CD writer, it automatically spits it back out. I did a look in the librarian, but no luck so far. Any clues for rent? Thanks in advance, Peter Thompson. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.psrinc.com!not-for-mail From: Information Subject: Metrics Message-ID: <5137cd$c72.23f@news.psrinc.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:07:02 GMT Reply-To: Great Site Lines: 2 Great Site URL:http://www.psrinc.com/metsys.htm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsxfer.nether.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu!not-for-mail From: "Robert A. Decker" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IBM PC 365? Date: 19 May 97 16:07:15 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Lines: 30 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: host-235.subnet-134.med.umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 X-News-Servers: news.itd.umich.edu X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28894 comp.sys.next.misc:25893 Just got back from WWDC and now I have to get a PC box to install my release 4.2 prerealease 2 NeXT development environment (along with WebObjects). I'm at a university so I don't have many options on hardware I can buy without having to do a justification report. I'm thinking of buying an IBM 365 P200 Pro. I don't care if I have SCSI, but I _do_ need to be able to install everything off the CD if I don't have SCSI. I understand I can do this if the CD-ROM is ATAPI compliant. Is this pretty much assured on any hardware you buy these days? Or should I be diligant and look into this? If I do have to buy SCSI, the IBM PC 365 can come with something called S.M.A.R.T. Fast/Wide SCSI with Ultra SCSI controller, but that's all the info they give. I don't see anything named S.M.A.R.T. on the hardware compatibility guide. It doesn't even look like the CD-ROM is SCSI when you have a SCSI controller. rob -- Listen to my Realaudio playlist: Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5137cd$c72.23f@news.psrinc.com> Date: 19 May 1997 19:40:04 GMT Control: cancel <5137cd$c72.23f@news.psrinc.com> Message-ID: Sender: Information X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!news.radio.cz!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!Radon.Stanford.EDU!erikr From: erikr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Erik Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Non-postscript printers with NextStep/Intel Date: 19 May 1997 20:57:11 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5lqer7$m9s$1@Radon.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: xenon.stanford.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28895 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26753 comp.soft-sys.nextstep:3124 I'm buying an NextStep/Intel system and am considering what printer to buy for under $400. Has anyone used a cheap, non-postscript laser printer? If so, how does the print quality compare to postscript, and how is it done? How about an inkjet? I have heard that the original NeXT laser printer is not PostScript-compatible either - it relies on the Display postscript in software. So I'm figuring it must be possible to use a cheap laser printer to good effect, but this question is not present in any of the FAQ's. I'd appreciate anyone relating their experiences on this. -Erik #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.insinc.net!news.cadvision.com!usenet From: root@guzzibill.cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: replacement disk for NeXTStation Date: 19 May 1997 20:58:31 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5lqetn$3ecu@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <337E0A4B.718F@starpage.com> Reply-To: scollarw@cadvision.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ts23ip78.cadvision.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: webmaster@starpage.com In <337E0A4B.718F@starpage.com> "Jesse D. Hurlbut" wrote: > I just got a hand-me-down NeXTStation and I can't get the hard > drive to spin up--I assume it's dead... so I'm looking for any > suggestions for a reasonably-priced replacement drive. > Is there a limitation on how big a drive I can put in? (2Gb?) > Does any SCSI drive work, or do I need something in particular? here's the SCSImodes output from my new addition. guzzibill:4# scsimodes /dev/rsd0a SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a Drive type: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S 512 bytes per sector 159 sectors per track 4 tracks per cylinder 6810 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 2 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 4124735 usable sectors on volume should be available for around US$299 (catalog price + shipping) mount messages look like this: May 14 21:42:13 guzzibill mach: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S Rev as sd0 at sc0 target 0 lun 0 May 14 21:42:13 guzzibill mach: Disk Label: Disk May 14 21:42:13 guzzibill mach: Disk Capacity 2014MB, Device Block 512 bytes I believe this is as large as you are allowed... & i know this works quietly & well on my TurboColour 040 station. -- Bill Scollard Calgary, Canada Scollard Holdings Ltd. "Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!gail.ripco.com!joel.powers From: joel.powers@cesoft.com (Joel Powers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Prelude SCSI Install Problem Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:34:30 -0600 Organization: CE Software, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.152.71.71 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.3 I'm trying to install Prelude to Rhapsody on a machine with a Adaptec AHA-284X VESA scsi controler. The first list of options includes this adaptor as choice number 5. When I type 5 it installs the number 6 choice ( I believe Adaptec 29xs or something). Is there a work around? Thanks, joel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.gate.net!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ------SEX TOYS AND KINKY STUFF------- Date: 20 May 1997 04:24:46 GMT Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5lr92e$q98$9253@news.gate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dfbfl10-47.gate.net Fantazma has the best in sex toys and adult videos! come visit our site!!!! 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Lines: 2 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust80.max20.new-york.ny.ms.uu.net X-Newsreader: Anawave Gravity v1.10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.business.multi-level:292585 alt.make.money.fast:94525 alt.business.multi-level.exceltel:6534 alt.aol-sucks:125016 alt.bbs.internet:61385 alt.business:250022 alt.business.misc:318218 alt.internet.access.wanted:46393 alt.internet.services:101690 alt.misc:62653 alt.online-service:24708 alt.online-service.america-online:21436 alt.online-service.compuserve:19445 alt.online-service.freenet:2958 alt.online-service.genie:7734 alt.online-service.microsoft:6781 alt.online-service.prodigy:36633 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:74056 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:29043 comp.sys.mac.portables:88191 comp.sys.misc:5818 comp.sys.next.hardware:28899 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17637 comp.sys.next.misc:25895 misc.entrepreneurs:279056 Visit: http://www.detoronics.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!140.174.229.1!sun.sirius.com!usenet From: ngervae@sirius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep Intel printing--experiences? Date: 20 May 1997 05:29:56 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5lrcsk$k23@sun.sirius.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp020-sf4.sirius.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25897 comp.sys.next.hardware:28900 So I'm about to buy a printer for my Intel box, and so far I've discovered the Dots and JetDriver packagers for running non-PostScript printers. I understand the licensing and most of the technical issues, so now I'm wondering, How well do they work? I'm planning to buy an Epson StylusColor 800. If you're successfully using that with OpenStep on Intel, I'd love to hear from you! If you have other printer recommendations, I'd love to hear that too. Please reply BY EMAIL to both of these addresses: ngervae @ sirius.com nik @ pdi.com Thanks. (Note: spaces inserted in email addresses above in a vain attempt to foil spambots.) ---- Nik Gervae, Technical Writer, San Francisco ngervae@sirius.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!140.174.229.1!sun.sirius.com!usenet From: ngervae@sirius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Faxing on NextStep Intel with USR Sportster 36.6k Date: 20 May 1997 05:31:53 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5lrd09$k33@sun.sirius.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp020-sf4.sirius.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25898 comp.sys.next.hardware:28901 Does anybody have any news or experiences on how to fax from NextStep Intel? I have a USR Sportster 36.6k modem, and the only driver software I've come across is Jolly's Class 2 Fax, which doesn't work. Any help is appreciated. Please reply BY EMAIL. ---- Nik Gervae, Technical Writer, San Francisco ngervae@sirius.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!208.216.0.2!news.miracle.net!news.apk.net!not-for-mail From: "kent davis" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 4.1 on a GateWay 2000? Date: 20 May 1997 06:53:28 GMT Organization: home Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bc64ea$56940f80$a09536cf@apk.net.apk.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-8.medina.apk.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 I have been using NS 3.2 on slow 486's for a long time. So I bought a GateWay 2000 Pentium Pro 200, and loaded 3.2 on to it. Now I am trying to load 4.1 on to a IDE hard drive with a Adaptec2940 and cd player. I did not get any floppy disks with NS 4.1 so I am using 3.3 start up disk, And getting this ERROR: "Missing EISA Kernel bus Class". I try loading the driver but get a error. Please help, KD #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!unihil!baghira.han.de!spewcancel!cyberspam!noone Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5lr92e$q98$9253@news.gate.net> From: Control: cancel <5lr92e$q98$9253@news.gate.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 06:38:38 GMT Message-ID: X-Cancelled-By: fifi@toby.han.de Sender: Approved: fifi@toby.han.de Lines: 2 Message <5lr92e$q98$9253@news.gate.net> was cancelled by fifi@toby.han.de. Reason: Spam #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.best.com!news.idiom.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Rhapsody printing Date: 20 May 1997 07:54:50 GMT Organization: WolfWare Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5lrlca$niq$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <3380A48C.6F9AD19@iphysiol.unil.ch> <338125AE.329@claris.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cwolf.vip.best.com In-Reply-To: <338125AE.329@claris.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00127-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:68683 comp.sys.next.hardware:28903 On 05/19/97, Richard Cave wrote: >Sean Hill wrote: >> >> Did anyone at WWDC learn about what the plans are for Rhapsody >> printing? Since everything is DisplayPostscript I would expect that I >> will be able to print postscript on my HP inkjet? >> > >Here's how I understand the situation at this point: > Openstep/Mach can render the PS to a bitmap and dump the bitmap to a >"dumb" printer. Note that it will not do banding, but will render the >entire bitmap in memory before sending it to the dumb printer. An interesting tangent - at the Exec Hardware Q&A at WWDC I asked if Apple had any plans for making some "dumb" printers that would use Rhapsody to do the PostScript rasterization (like the NeXT laser printer used to do). By taking advantage of PostScript running on the host-CPU and memory such printers could cost less and perhaps perform better than similar quality printers with onboard PostScript. A woman from Apple's printer division answered that they were already looking into the idea and that there most likely would be such products. (They were a bit offended by my use of "dumb" as an adjective for such a printer and thought they would market it using a different term than that :-) - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!news.kth.se!news.datakom.su.se!not-for-mail From: Harald Ellmann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ZIP Drive problem Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:24:28 +0100 Organization: Stockholm University Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3381B41C.7DCC@msi.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: msim01.msi.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hello, we just got a zip drive for our office and I was curious if I could = connect it to my slab too. But when I looked at the connector cable that = came with the drive i saw, that it wouldn't fit into my NeXTs SCSI port. = Do I just need an adaptor. if so, where can I get one from (I am located = in Stockholm, Sweden) Thanks in advance Harald -- = Harald Ellmann = Frescativ=E4gen 24 104 05 Stockholm SWEDEN Tel: +46-(0)8/161126 Fax: +46-(0)8/158674 __________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!spring.edu.tw!feeder.seed.net.tw!reader.seed.net.tw!news From: paulwang Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: about memory system q Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:33:42 -0800 Organization: SEEDNET InterNetNews News System Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3382A555.3803@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.67.69.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi,everybody: I am a newbie. I just got a Turbo cube ND and a Cube Nd (68040)with Pyro upgrade board. I want to eapand the main memory system.I read the Peanut FAQ,but Istill some question. 1.I couldn't find any 100ns,80ns even 70ns memory moudle at Taiwan.Most of the memory moudles are 60ns or faster(40ns),and all of them are EDO ram.Does them work fit with my system? I tried to put 32mb (16*2) 70ns Simm in the turbo cube.But the Rom monitor (v.74) report :80ns.Why ?Is there something wrong?Is there any tip to use faster ram?(Both cube and turbo cube).Btw ,could Nd use faster memory(70,60ns) too? 2.I wish the Turbo cube could expand to 128mb ram,but my friend who works for Canon told me the Turbo cube maximum memory is 64mb,is that correct?If not,Can I put 32mb*4 into the tuebo cube sockets directly? Or need any tip? Thanks in advance. PAUL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!news From: Maurice van Steensel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Thanks for all help, new q Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:01:57 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Lines: 25 Message-ID: <33820334.4362@antrg.azn.nl> Reply-To: M.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: tr2f-069.azn.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Hi all, First I want to thank everybody who answered to my request for SCSI disks, NS 3.3 and CDROM problems. I found someone in Holland who has a NeXTstation Color and could provide me with a SCSI disk, so that is solved. We both have NS 3.0 now and are getting NS 3.2 user/dev, so everything is cool.It was great to see that so many people were willing to help. Thanks again. New question: I want to make the SCSI drive I have now internal. When we put it into the Cube, the ROM monitor reported SCSI bus hung. Looks like a termination problem. Can it be solved by having an external SCSI device with terminating power? Other question: I don't have a frame for the internal disk. Does someone know how to build one? Then something weird happened to my Cube: we opened it of course, slid the motherboard out 1 time. I now have two SCSI devices externally (SCSI disk and CDROM). A few times in a row, after pressing the powerkey, the monitor switched on and so did the fan, but the system test window did not appear and the Cube did not start up. I have slid the motherboard out and back in again and now the Cube starts up fine. I did not have this problem before I opened it and installed the SCSI devices externally. Has someone encountered similar problems? If so: what was the cause? Thanks again! :-)Maurice #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!news-zh.switch.ch!news-ge.switch.ch!in2p3.fr!oleane!objectivesw From: objectivesw@dial.oleane.com (Your Name) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: boot cube from floppy? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:16:23 +0100 Organization: Guest of OLEANE - PIPEX International Lines: 17 Message-ID: <19970520191623545950@dyn-144.vin.oleane.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn-144.vin.oleane.com X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2 David Herren wrote: > I have a cube with a newly installed floppy drive. I've ordered an > official NeXT ribbon cable for it but I've found one that seems to work to > some degree (powering off the cube causes the floppy to eject at least so > there's some communication going on). The hard drive inside the cube is > completely blank. I would like to boot from the floppy so I can begin the > install from the CD. > > How do I tell the cube to boot from floppy? At present I'm getting a > message that there it is attempting to load from disc and then reports a > SCSI error. OK, just jump to the ROM Monitor by hiting command + command (left and right) + tilde and then type "bfd" (Boot Floppy Disk) HA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5lsao9$jm3$2779@merki.connect.com.au> Date: 20 May 1997 15:14:59 GMT Control: cancel <5lsao9$jm3$2779@merki.connect.com.au> Message-ID: Sender: Free Links X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Date: 20 May 1997 16:14:42 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-by: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: FREEMONEY Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5lsf2g$6p6@lal.interserv.com> Control: cancel <5lsf2g$6p6@lal.interserv.com> X-No-Archive: Yes X-Spam-Type: DYNAMAIL Lines: 4 DYNAMAIL spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: MUST GO THERE Total spams this type to date: 15613 Total this spam type for this user to date: 257 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: boot cube from floppy? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:52:39 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <19970520191623545950@dyn-144.vin.oleane.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) objectivesw@dial.oleane.com writes: >OK, just jump to the ROM Monitor by hiting command + command (left and >right) + tilde and then type "bfd" (Boot Floppy Disk) = Finally found that information on one of the NextStep for Intel pages (a = very logical place to look, don't you think since my question had to do w= ith Black hardware). So I've managed to do the above, and I've managed to do 3 installations a= nd I'm conducting the fourth now. After the first installation when it said it had to reboot, I hit return = and it began to reboot. Unfortunately it rebooted single user from the CD= =2E So I reinstalled. After the second installation I hit return to reboot, but to prevent it b= ooting from the Cd, I removed the Cd first. Bad move--the reboot program = is on the CD and I got tons of errors. So I reinstalled. After the third installation I hit return to reboot and I got an animated= icon saying "Loading from disc." (interesting that I've not seen this on= white hardware). I was prepared for black hardware to be slower, but 3 h= ours and 10 minutes later it was still spinning its icon and saying "Loading from disc." so I'm in the mid= dle of the fouth install now. Anyone have any suggestions? -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!uucp5.uu.net!swissbank!root From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: Prelude SCSI Install Problem Message-ID: <1997May20.203401.14797@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Nntp-Posting-Host: ch1d245nwk Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:34:01 GMT Lines: 28 Joel Powers writes > I'm trying to install Prelude to Rhapsody on a machine with a Adaptec > AHA-284X VESA scsi controler. The first list of options includes this > adaptor as choice number 5. When I type 5 it installs the number 6 choice > ( I believe Adaptec 29xs or something). Is there a work around? > When NEXTSTEP, er um... OpenStep, eh... I mean Prelude to Rhapsody presents the list of drivers to select from, several of the drivers listed may be different personalities of the same driver. The only differences being slightly different configuration settings. This is likely the case here since I think the main difference between the Adaptec 28XX series and the 29XX series is the bus (28XX - VL, 29XX - PCI). The actual driver name is the Adaptec 29XX (or similar), so this shouldn't be a problem. If you are having a problem installing NEX... the operating system, post the error you are getting and your system configuration (machine type, all peripheral cards, etc...). - Eric (Yikes... what do we call this thing anyway ;-) -- _______________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | Synectic Design | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \___________________________|___________________________________/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!CNB.CompuNet.DE!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!schwarz From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Turning off b/w-NeXTStation's monitor? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:43:54 +0200 Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin Lines: 7 Message-ID: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: MacSOUP D-2.2 Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave the computer running to enable remote logins? -- Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!theisen From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Rhapsody printing Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 01:31:25 +0200 Organization: University of Bonn, Germany Lines: 12 Message-ID: <199705210131252333208@rhrz-isdn2-p14.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <3380A48C.6F9AD19@iphysiol.unil.ch> <338125AE.329@claris.com> <5lrlca$niq$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rhrz-isdn2-p2.rhrz.uni-bonn.de X-Newsreader: MacSOUP D-2.2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:68805 comp.sys.next.hardware:28911 Christopher Wolf wrote: > (They were a bit offended by my use of "dumb" as an adjective for such a > printer and thought they would market it using a different term than that > :-) What about calling it "HPGL"? Dirk :*) -- Student of computer science, University of Bonn, Germany http://titan.informatik.uni-bonn.de/~theisen/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i529.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tired of NO NeXT magazines. Be tired NO MORE. @Society Magazine... Date: 20 May 1997 23:53:17 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 24 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i529.oro.net We invite you to a new company, a new product, and a determination to keep the NeXT spirit alive. We invite you to @Society Magazine Newsletter, "a newsletter dedicated to the NeXT platform". While no one else has stepped forward to produce any NeXT based reading material for years, I have formed @Society Magazine Newsletter to help fill this void of reading material about our favorite platform. Come join the fun!! We are producing a newsletter that covers NeXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, and future Rhapsody coverage as this new Apple/NeXT OS hits the streets. Our premiere issue is ready for the printers and we invite all NeXT users to subscribe and join the fun. Our first year will be in the form of a professionally printed newsletter, then in one year, we hope to become a full print magazine. In order to achieve this goal, we request the support of the NeXT community to join the fun and subscribe to @Society Magazine Newsletter. Come visit our freshly painted WWW pages at: http://www.oro.net/~tj Thank you for the support, Thomas "TJ" Ferreira #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!14.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Stupid printer question Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:02:46 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.51.14 OK, I know this is stupid, but I have never seen a NeXT laserprinter before. I just bought two of them brand new. I took one out, unpacked it, set it up (much easier than on a Mac) and looked for the power switch. There is no power switch. I know it works because I printed with it. Question is: is there a way to turn it off or is it normally off until it gets a signal to print? If the latter is the case, how do they get the fuser to heat up so quickly? It takes virtually no time, click to chunk. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!gail.ripco.com!joel.powers From: joel.powers@cesoft.com (Joel Powers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Prelude SCSI Install Problem Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:51:29 -0600 Organization: CE Software, Inc. Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <1997May20.203401.14797@il.us.swissbank.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.152.71.71 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.3 (Eric_Brown) wrote: > the > list of drivers to select from, several of the drivers listed may be different > personalities of the same driver. The only differences being slightly > different configuration settings. I believe this is what was going on and I thought it was the source of my problems but... The kernal can't seem to find my scsi device. The kernal boots and starts registering devices. It registers PS2controller, keyboard EISA, ect., then: Registering: PCMCIA0 PCIC: No device at base address 0x03e0 Adaptec7770: Host Adaptor not found at port 4c00 ... ... No SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive found use sd%d, hd%D, fd%d, en%d or tr%d root device? I then type sd0 and get a panic and get a bunch of diagnostics steming from inability to find SCSI controler. I'm using AHA-2840VL/2842VL at port 1c00h I have a conner 1 gig drive, a micropolis 1 gig drive and a Sony CDU31a cd-rom. Any help would be appreciated, TIA joel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!207.25.192.30!iagnews.iagnet.net!tlawriw From: tsnSSSmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.invest.penny-stocks,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE#$#$#$###### Date: Wed, 21 May 97 01:21:36 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5ltift$ghs$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm16-16.stratos.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.aol-sucks:125073 alt.bbs.internet:61460 alt.business:250416 alt.business.misc:318637 alt.business.multi-level:292984 alt.internet.access.wanted:46414 alt.internet.services:101772 alt.invest.penny-stocks:6424 alt.misc:62781 alt.online-service:24724 alt.online-service.america-online:21448 alt.online-service.compuserve:19458 alt.online-service.freenet:2963 alt.online-service.genie:7739 alt.online-service.microsoft:6793 alt.online-service.prodigy:36647 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:74145 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:29063 comp.sys.mac.portables:88269 comp.sys.misc:5831 comp.sys.next.hardware:28915 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17653 comp.sys.next.misc:25911 misc.entrepreneurs:279305 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11704 Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Stupid printer question Date: 20 May 1997 21:18:31 GMT Lines: 16 Message-ID: <19970521011801.VAA01215@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: No power switch, it's turned on and off by the computer. There's a Sleepprinter.app available at most of the FTP sites which will toggle it off and on, and in NS 2.x, there was a TestPrinter.app which had options for printing test pages, and a nifty on/off switch onscreen. You can also turn it on and off with a shell script/command--I believe this is in the FAQ somewhere, also in the docs for SleepPrinter. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!not-for-mail From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Music Kit hangs on Turbo Date: 16 May 1997 08:00:55 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5lh47n$kcd$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) I have installed the latest version of the MusicKit on both a NeXTstation ADB Turbo Color and a NeXTstation 25MHz monochrome. It has a problem on the Turbo. Scoreplayer will hang on certain scores. The sound suddenly stops, and nothing more happens. If I hit the "stop" button, or try to quit, the curser goes into spinning mode endlessly. I have to use the Workspace Processes inspector to kill the application. I have gotten similar behavior on the 25MHz when doing a lot of other processes at the same time as playing a score. But on the Turbo, this happens reliably regardless of what else running. It depends only on the score being played. It also happens when doing "Perform Internal" on Calliope. Anyone else ever see this behavior? Is it a hardware problem, software bug, or what? Thanks for any clues. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: black hardware & rhaphsody Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:45:39 GMT References: <17497134.84504.10673@kcbbs.gen.nz> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 13 In article <17497134.84504.10673@kcbbs.gen.nz>, Andrew Lindesay wrote: >Has anybody heard anything about NeXTcubes/NeXTstations running >Rhaphsody? Pretty much everything I've heard has said that there will be no 68K versions. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Stupid printer question Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:45:10 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <19970521011801.VAA01215@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira In-Reply-To: <19970521011801.VAA01215@ladder02.news.aol.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Haven't seen the original post, however from the gist of the followup... - /usr/etc/nppower off will turn the printer off.... however if the printer is off already, this turns it on and then turns it off.... - There are two similar programs designed to turn off the printer when it has not been used for some set interval of time: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/npoffd.1.0.N.bs.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/npoffd.1.0.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/nppowerd.1.0.N.bs.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/nppowerd.1.0.README Hope this helps TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turning off b/w-NeXTStation's monitor? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:19:26 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Georg Schwarz In-Reply-To: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat > Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave > the computer running to enable remote logins? Short answer is no longer answer is no but the faq describes how to boot it headless (no monitor) which does have some drawback such as no NXHosting or printing, I believe. TjL ps -- there's a link to the faq at my web page if you haven't found it -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-fw.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.nasionet.net!news@nasionet.net From: netfree@hotmail.com (-Future Net-) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Internet for free worldwide+ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 21:32:52 GMT Organization: future Net Lines: 8 Message-ID: <337e2393.22372655@news.nasionet.net> Reply-To: netfree@hotmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.208.127.220 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Free adult internet connection worldwide via our BBS. Please visit as much as possible our sponsor pages, it’s how we are paid... Follow the link and enjoy... http://www.cybercity.hko.net/LA/interbbs/index.htm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <337de55d.6447151@news.nasionet.net> Date: 21 May 1997 05:49:53 GMT Control: cancel <337de55d.6447151@news.nasionet.net> Message-ID: Sender: netfree@hotmail.com (Future Net) X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!jussieu.fr!univ-angers.fr!univ-rennes1.fr!not-for-mail From: wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr (Fabrice Wendling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SECOND HD ON NEXTSTEP3.3 Date: 21 May 1997 08:45:27 GMT Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5lucn7$9vf$1@news.univ-rennes1.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: next.univ-rennes1.fr Keywords: NEXTSTEP, HD Hello, We installed a second HD on a NextStep 3.3 computer (Intel P. Pro, 64 Mo RAM, 2 x 2 Go HD). It seems that everything works ok for reading/writing the second disk (rsd1a). However, each time a user logs in, the following message is displayed : ' Hard disk 2 is damaged repair initialise ignore ? ' We tried several fsck on /dev/rsd1a but unfortunately, this does not correct the problem. Does anybody already have this type of problem ? If yes, how can it be solved ? Thank you for responses. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!sn.no!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <337e2393.22372655@news.nasionet.net> Date: 21 May 1997 06:37:00 GMT Control: cancel <337e2393.22372655@news.nasionet.net> Message-ID: Sender: netfree@hotmail.com (-Future Net-) X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newshost.uni-koblenz.de!not-for-mail From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: black hardware & rhaphsody Date: 21 May 1997 11:57:40 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5lunvk$bgk$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nifty.uni-koblenz.de In article dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > In article <17497134.84504.10673@kcbbs.gen.nz>, > Andrew Lindesay wrote: > >Has anybody heard anything about NeXTcubes/NeXTstations running > >Rhaphsody? > > Pretty much everything I've heard has said that there will be no 68K > versions. Then I'd beg for a PowerPC replacement board to fit into a slab. That would be great - an original black machine with state of the art performance. Apple/NeXT - are you listening ? Could anybody ask Jon Rubinstein to put that on the project list ? Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Emil: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!netcom.net.uk!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!qmw!news From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Figueroa-O'Farrill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-COMBO ISA on NS 3.3(intel) Date: 21 May 1997 15:41:41 +0100 Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College Sender: jmf@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.15 Lines: 27 We are having serious problems with one of our old intel boxes running NS3.3. We have a 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-COMBO ISA and we downloaded the latest driver from NextAnswers. The card works but the performace is horrendous: netstat -i shows loads of errors ( >20% packets). We have discarded an ethernet card error because we have used the very same card in a linux box and it works fine. We are almost sure that it is not a network problem, but we are not 100% sure. If anyone else has had experience with this configuration and can tell us about it, we'd appreaciate it. Cheers, Jose -- +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Dr Jose M Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.171.975-5055 | | Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.181.981-7465 | | Queen Mary and Westfield College | mailto:J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk | | Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | | | and | | http://stringswww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/~jmf/jmf.html | +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+ with software to run workspace on a remote machine (preferably without needing a display on the local machine - my PC has a Hercules video card!). Doing this would allow users to move to OpenStep from old hardware cheaply and easily, and keep the cool hardware they love. $an #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu!not-for-mail From: "Robert A. Decker" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Two different video cards? Date: 21 May 97 10:56:11 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: host-235.subnet-134.med.umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 X-News-Servers: news.itd.umich.edu X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28927 comp.sys.next.misc:25918 Is there any problem in using two different video cards from two different manufacturers as long as both are listed as being supported? rob -- Listen to my Realaudio playlist: Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!supernews.com!news From: Submit Site Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Submissions $25 Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:04:16 -0700 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 4 Message-ID: <33831D00.39D3@web-guy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cruznet0233.cruznet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Submit Your Web Page To 200 Plus Search Engines Just $25 And We Prove It! Check Out http://www.web-guy.com/submit/ 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) Finally I have been able to do a full clean install of 4.1 on a cube. Now= to the next challenge. The internal2 gig scsi drive is ID 01, the inter= nal CD-ROM is ID 03. I have another scsi device, a 270 meg quantum, that = I intend to use as a swap disc and for /tmp. Unfortunately the jumpers for this drive for setting the scsi a= ddress are missing and they are of a small type that I don't seem to be a= ble to find spares for, and so this device is limited to ID 00. = When the swap drive is unconnected, the cube boots normally. When I conne= ct it, the boot fails with a scsi error. I know that I can jump into the = ROM monitor and use the b command to boot from the floppy (bfd) or from t= he optical (not installed) or from a scsi device (bsd). How do I specify which scsi id the machine should boot= from? I've tried a variety of parameters but haven't hit upon the right = combination. many thanks. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!199.171.21.6!news.eden.com!interval.net!arlut.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: drw Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WinBook FX and OpenStep Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:09:57 -0600 Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 7 Message-ID: <33832C65.1D79@lanl.gov> Reply-To: wolf@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-95-13.ots.utexas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Anyone who has tried/configured the Winbook FX for OpenStep: Can it be done? Details? Any websites other than NeXT/Apple archiving configuration info? Thanks, David #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.niehs.nih.gov!not-for-mail From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: new Pentium Pro and Pentium II bug Date: 21 May 1997 19:20:35 GMT Organization: NIEHS Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5lvhu3$vk8$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Reply-To: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: catatac.niehs.nih.gov Keywords: FPU, bug, pentium Hi, I read in the latest PC Week about a new bug that affects the Pentium Pro and the Pentium II, but not the Pentium, Pentium MMX, or AMD K6. Apparently it arises when the floating point unit is asked to convert a floating point number to integer format using FIST and FISTP instructions. Does anyone know if this affects NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Does anyone have more information than noted above? Can anyone suggest where I can learn more about this? Thanks, Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!grapool30.rz.uni-frankfurt.de!tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de!newsmaster From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines. Be tired NO MORE. @Society Magazine... Date: 21 May 1997 16:56:38 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin148.rz.uni-frankfurt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > While no one else has stepped forward to produce any NeXT based reading > material for years which, of course, is not entirely true, at least if you take into account other languages as English... ;-) NEXTTOYOU has been on the market for three years now with growing success and meanwhile has up to 70 pages an issue. Bye Uli _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: www.nexttoyou.de D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.117.219.2!news.netline.net!usenet From: htreetrunk@hotmail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: helpful new florida website Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:25:06 Organization: Netline Communications, Inc. Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5m001p$mpa@tesla.netline.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: srq02.netline.net organizations or business trips, meetings plans, family vacations, etc. in Florida are well handled by the people at www.floridatime.com check out and bookmark this site for future reference. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <33831D00.39D3@web-guy.com> Date: 22 May 1997 01:51:11 GMT Control: cancel <33831D00.39D3@web-guy.com> Message-ID: Sender: Submit Site X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970522.04. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970522.04.html for complete report. Original Subject: Submissions $25 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: ZIP Drive problem Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:04:21 GMT References: <3381B41C.7DCC@msi.se> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 In article <3381B41C.7DCC@msi.se>, Harald Ellmann wrote: >Hello, > >we just got a zip drive for our office and I was curious if I could = >connect it to my slab too. But when I looked at the connector cable that = >came with the drive i saw, that it wouldn't fit into my NeXTs SCSI port. = >Do I just need an adaptor. Yep--all you need is an adapter and you'll be all set. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5m001p$mpa@tesla.netline.net> Date: 22 May 1997 00:48:14 GMT Control: cancel <5m001p$mpa@tesla.netline.net> Message-ID: Sender: htreetrunk@hotmail.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!gmv.es!news.IAEhv.nl!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: black hardware & rhaphsody Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 21:05:23 GMT References: <5lunvk$bgk$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 24 In article <5lunvk$bgk$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>, Detlev Droege wrote: >In article dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David >Evans) writes: >> >> Pretty much everything I've heard has said that there will be no 68K >> versions. > >Then I'd beg for a PowerPC replacement board to fit into a slab. >That would be great - an original black machine with state of the >art performance. Apple/NeXT - are you listening ? >Could anybody ask Jon Rubinstein to put that on the project list ? > Not to be a party-pooper, but I'd be stunned if that ever happened. There are about 50000 NeXT machines in the world--far fewer than high-end 68k Macs, I should imagine. If Apple doesn't consider the 68k Mac worth supporting in Rhapsody then I can't see the smaller black market being any better. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!uniol!news.uni-stuttgart.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!not-for-mail From: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de (Jochen Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: new Pentium Pro and Pentium II bug Date: 22 May 1997 06:33:16 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5m0pbc$pcr$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <5lvhu3$vk8$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: sade.schiele-ct.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) wrote: > Hi, > > I read in the latest PC Week about a new bug that affects > the Pentium Pro and the Pentium II, but not the Pentium, > Pentium MMX, or AMD K6. Apparently it arises when the > floating point unit is asked to convert a floating point > number to integer format using FIST and FISTP instructions. > > Does anyone know if this affects NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Does > anyone have more information than noted above? Can anyone > suggest where I can learn more about this? > > Thanks, > > Gregg Dinse > 919-541-4931 > dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov See http://www.x86.org. Never had any crash under NS/OS that seemed to be caused by this bug. -- Jochen Richter SYSTEM analyse design entwicklung (S.a.d.e.) Akademiestrasse 16 Phone: +49-721-9 20 30 90 D-76133 Karlsruhe Fax: +49-721-9 20 30 99 Germany e-mail: jr@Sade.schiele-ct.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: black hardware & rhaphsody Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 01:48:05 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5lunvk$bgk$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: On Wed, 21 May 1997, David Evans wrote: > Not to be a party-pooper, but I'd be stunned if that ever happened. There > are about 50000 NeXT machines in the world--far fewer than high-end 68k Macs, I > should imagine. If Apple doesn't consider the 68k Mac worth supporting in > Rhapsody then I can't see the smaller black market being any better. I agree that neither Rhapsody nor PPC upgrade boards are likely for black hardware. OpenStep/Mach 4.2 (aka Rhapsody Prerelease 0) will probably be the last OS iteration for motorola. As Apple is pledging that OpenStep 4.2 apps will run under the Yellow Box (i.e. Yellow Box = superset of OpenStep), I think the best we can hope for is for a (very) few of the more benevolent software houses to compile m68k support into their early OpenStep apps. Even this doesn't seem too likely, alas. (Too bad - I'd really love to see Pagemaker or Photoshop running on my slab. I know there are NEXTSTEP workalikes for a lot of such apps, but with few exceptions they tend to be too expensive or too limited in functionalty (or both) for my tastes.) -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newshost.uni-koblenz.de!not-for-mail From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-COMBO ISA on NS 3.3(intel) Date: 22 May 1997 07:11:45 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5m0rjh$ppn$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nihil.uni-koblenz.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Figueroa-O'Farrill) wrote: > We are having serious problems with one of our old intel boxes running > NS3.3. We have a 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-COMBO ISA and we downloaded > the latest driver from NextAnswers. The card works but the performace > is horrendous: [...] There is a serious bug in the early implementations of the 3Com driver which will cause the card to drop packets. Get the updated driver (release 3.33, NeXTAnswers document #2146) which will completely fix this problem. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!uucp1.uu.net!world!gsk From: gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth) Subject: Original NeXT box for sale Message-ID: Sender: gsk@world.std.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard M. Stallman) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 12:31:04 GMT Lines: 12 The Free Software Foundation has a very old NeXT machine, the first generation that NeXT ever made. Might any NeXT fans want to pay money for this? The money would support the FSF, of course. Interested persons should send replies to: Richard M. Stallman Thanks! -- Geoffrey S. Knauth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!metro!news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!actcsiro!pwm From: pwm@cbr.dit.csiro.au (Peter Milne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation Internal Disc Upgrade Date: 22 May 1997 05:42:09 GMT Organization: C.S.I.R.O Australia Lines: 44 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5m0mbh$ns9@hercules.its.csiro.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: antlia.cbr.dit.csiro.au Folks, I have a NeXTstation running NS3.2 and with the original internal disc (a Seagate 406 Mbyte ST1480). I plan to upgrade to NS3.3 and to install a larger internal disc. The disc I am seriously considering is a 2.1 Gbyte Seagate Medalist SCSI Pro ST52160N. Questions: Has anyone successfully installed this disc in a NeXTstation? Is its heat output low enough to not to be a problem? Were there any installation problems physically installing the drive? The original disc in my system is mounted using some screws that have what look like rubber shock mounts - several of which are fractured. Can I get replacements for these screws, or can I just screw the disc directly to the case of the NeXTstation? How should I go about putting an operating system and my existing files on the new disk? There seem to be 2 possibilities: 1. set the new disk up as an external drive initially, install 3.3 on it check that I can boot from it, then copy all my files from the existing internal dive across to the new drive. Finally, install the new drive as the internal drive. 2. copy all my files onto a backup device, install the new disk as the internal drive, install NS 3.3 on it, then load the backed up files onto it. Which is the best/safest option? Any tricks I need to know? Thanks, Peter (peter.milne@cmis.csiro.au) C C directly to t #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turning off b/w-NeXTStation's monitor? Date: 22 May 1997 14:30:13 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5m1l9l$ro5$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de) wrote: > Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave > the computer running to enable remote logins? No.. but you can boot the machine without a monitor. Check this newsgroup with dejanews.com, it has been reposted plenty of times. A good word to search for is "dongle". HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines. Be tired NO MORE. @Society Magazine... Date: 22 May 1997 14:33:16 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote: > tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > > While no one else has stepped forward to produce any NeXT based reading > > material for years > which, of course, is not entirely true, at least if you take into account > other languages as English... ;-) Indeed. > NEXTTOYOU has been on the market for three years now with growing success and > meanwhile has up to 70 pages an issue. And it rocks, too - I'm very much in love with that magazine, it's a lot better then e.g. NIL used to be. Now if someone just supported it just a bit, it could be translated! Apple, are you listening? Puh-leeze? Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!196.4.160.8!hermes.is.co.za!not-for-mail From: danie@fnbinvest.co.za Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Prelude SCSI Install Problem -Adaptec 2842 VL Date: 22 May 1997 15:42:38 GMT Organization: No organisation supplied Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5m1phe$n0g$1@hermes.is.co.za> References: <1997May20.203401.14797@il.us.swissbank.com> Reply-To: danie@fnbinvest.co.za NNTP-Posting-Host: gauntlet.fnbinvest.co.za X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: joel.powers@cesoft.com > (Eric_Brown) wrote: > ..........................Snip > I then type sd0 and get a panic and get a bunch of diagnostics steming from > inability to find SCSI controler. > I'm using AHA-2840VL/2842VL at port 1c00h > I have a conner 1 gig drive, a micropolis 1 gig drive and a Sony CDU31a cd-rom. > > Any help would be appreciated, > TIA > joel > The default jumper setting the card ships with is not the one install wants: "The 284x driver uses port 4c00 by default. You must set the DIP switches on your 284x card to use this port. The correct settings are: sw1:on sw2:on sw3:off sw4:off" (From NeXTanswer 1759 - updated only after I had same problems about 2 years ago :) -- Regards Danie Malan Mailto: danie@fnbinvest.co.za (NeXTmail, MIME & ASCII welcome) CAIRO=NT+OPENSTEP ! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.bellglobal.com!SUNqbc.risq.net!athena.ulaval.ca!not-for-mail From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation Internal Disc Upgrade Date: 22 May 1997 15:50:19 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5m1pvr$jsf$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <5m0mbh$ns9@hercules.its.csiro.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: arrakis.fsa.ulaval.ca X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.0.2 Beta(i) Cc: pwm@cbr.dit.csiro.au In <5m0mbh$ns9@hercules.its.csiro.au> Peter Milne wrote: % Folks, % % I have a NeXTstation running NS3.2 and with the original internal disc % (a Seagate 406 Mbyte ST1480). % % I plan to upgrade to NS3.3 and to install a larger internal disc. The disc % I am seriously considering is a 2.1 Gbyte Seagate Medalist SCSI Pro ST52160N. ... % There seem to be 2 possibilities: % % 1. set the new disk up as an external drive initially, install 3.3 on it % check that I can boot from it, then copy all my files from the existing % internal dive across to the new drive. Finally, install the new drive % as the internal drive. I did that, although with a different Seagate drive (1Gb). I also upgraded to 3.3 before changing disk. It worked fine. Also, unless you screw up with the hardware, you can always go back to you current setup. ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu!not-for-mail From: "Robert A. Decker" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 22 May 97 12:57:13 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Lines: 39 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: host-235.subnet-134.med.umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 X-News-Servers: news.itd.umich.edu X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25935 comp.sys.next.advocacy:69131 comp.sys.next.hardware:28945 I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (the one we got at WWDC) on Dell Optiplex GX Pro that doesn't have SCSI. I've tried to use all the NeXTAnswers at the web site for installing onto a system without SCSI, but with an ATAPI CD-ROM. We put both the harddrive and the CD-ROM on the primary controller and set the CD-ROM to slave and the harddrive to dual master. We go through the installation process with the floppies. I set the CD-ROM to be an Adaptec SCSI driver like one of the tech notes, with the harddrive to EIDE and that didn't work. I set the CD-ROM and hardrive to be dual primary/secondary ATAPI/EIDE and that didn't work. I tried just about every combination that I could think of and none of them work. By saying they don't work, here's what I mean: We get to the point where it recognizes the harddrive and that there's an ATAPI device. It then gets to the point of recognizing the correct CD-ROM. The line is: NEC CD-ROM Drive:282 3.07 The light on the CD-ROM lights up briefly, but then I get some error message about not getting a packet of information. It does that several times (I let it do this for about thirty minutes or so a few times before giving up). This happens whether there's a CD in it or not. Should this be working correctly? Anyone know what's going on? rob -- Listen to my Realaudio playlist: Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu!not-for-mail From: "Robert A. Decker" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 22 May 97 13:14:30 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <199705221711.KAA18417@interchg.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-235.subnet-134.med.umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 X-News-Servers: news.itd.umich.edu X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25936 comp.sys.next.advocacy:69137 comp.sys.next.hardware:28946 On Thu, May 22, 1997 1:11 PM, godwin@unixg.ubc.ca wrote: >hmm is your NEC supported?? One of the NeXT Answers states that other CD-ROMs that aren't in the list should be supported, but to let them know if one doesn't work. Right now I'm not sure if the problem is the setup, or the CD-ROM. >how hard is it for you to get a SCSI and >CDROM? that's just the quickest way to solve the problem! (you can always >install the EIDE driver letter when the system is setup) I may do that, or I may just purchase an IBM PC 365 (one of the computers listed as working). rob -- Listen to my Realaudio playlist: Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i536.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines. Be tired NO MORE. @Society Magazine... Date: 22 May 1997 17:56:31 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: i536.oro.net I was unaware and did not consider other countries in my original message. I wish I could read the German language because I would subscribe. I am a NeXT junkie so when I found no ENGLISH based NeXT magazines or newsletters, I decided to start @Society Magazine Newsletter. Maybe I will have to learn German so I can subscribe. Best of luck with your NeXT magazine. Thomas TJ Ferreira @Society Magazine http://www.oro.net/~tj In article <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de>, neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) wrote: > Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote: > > tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > > > While no one else has stepped forward to produce any NeXT based reading > > > material for years > > > which, of course, is not entirely true, at least if you take into account > > other languages as English... ;-) > > Indeed. > > > NEXTTOYOU has been on the market for three years now with growing success and > > meanwhile has up to 70 pages an issue. > > And it rocks, too - I'm very much in love with that magazine, it's a lot > better then e.g. NIL used to be. Now if someone just supported it just a > bit, it could be translated! Apple, are you listening? Puh-leeze? > > Best wishes, Chris > -- > // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." > // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ > // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!miwok!news.metawire.com!NewsWatcher!user From: asila@metawire.com (Matt Covey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Single user: yes, multi: no Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 10:49:48 -0800 Organization: MetaWire, Inc Lines: 26 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.219.92.162 X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't find any past newsgroup messages to this specific problem: I'm trying to get the "Prelude to Rhapsody" (OpenStep prerelease 4.2) installed on a no-name Intel clone which has an IDE hard-disk and IDE CD-ROM. By selecting the "EIDE and ATAPI" driver I've gotten the first part of the installation to work. I can bring the machine up in single user mode and see that the files have indeed been copied from the CD-ROM to the hard disk. However, the system hangs when going to multiuser mode right after printing (using the "-v" boot option) the "EIDE" message of the "Configuring Device Drivers" section. Does this ring any bells? Is there a newer (than the one on the prerelease 4.2 floppy) "EIDE" driver that I need? Or is this my hardware (but then why does single user mode work?) Thanks for any help, ++matt PS The only documentation I was able to find that even mentioned this was the "EIDE/ATAPI Support in NEXTSTEP 3.3" note. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!haven.umd.edu!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: jon@haveman.org (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: replacement disk for NeXTStation Date: 22 May 1997 18:06:24 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5m21v0$c01@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5lqetn$3ecu@elmo.cadvision.com> Reply-To: jon@haveman.org NNTP-Posting-Host: intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu guzzibill writes > In <337E0A4B.718F@starpage.com> "Jesse D. Hurlbut" wrote: > > I just got a hand-me-down NeXTStation and I can't get the hard > > drive to spin up--I assume it's dead... so I'm looking for any > > suggestions for a reasonably-priced replacement drive. > > Is there a limitation on how big a drive I can put in? (2Gb?) > > Does any SCSI drive work, or do I need something in particular? > here's the SCSImodes output from my new addition. > > guzzibill:4# scsimodes /dev/rsd0a > SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a > Drive type: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S You might also find this drive listed as: Tempest_TM32110S I just called Quantum....it's the same drive. -- Jon Haveman http://www.haveman.org/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@haveman.org Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (765) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (765) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (765) 742-7961 (Home) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!data.ramona.vix.com!nnrp1.crl.com!not-for-mail From: bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (Brad Yearwood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 22 May 1997 11:50:19 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 63 Message-ID: <5m24hb$mma@crl2.crl.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: crl2.crl.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25937 comp.sys.next.advocacy:69148 comp.sys.next.hardware:28950 In article , Robert A. Decker wrote: > > I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (the one we got at WWDC) on Dell >Optiplex GX Pro that doesn't have SCSI. > > I've tried to use all the NeXTAnswers at the web site for installing onto >a system without SCSI, but with an ATAPI CD-ROM. We put both the harddrive >and the CD-ROM on the primary controller and set the CD-ROM to slave and >the harddrive to dual master. > We go through the installation process with the floppies. I set the >CD-ROM to be an Adaptec SCSI driver like one of the tech notes, with the >harddrive to EIDE and that didn't work. I set the CD-ROM and hardrive to be >dual primary/secondary ATAPI/EIDE and that didn't work. I tried just about >every combination that I could think of and none of them work. > > > By saying they don't work, here's what I mean: We get to the point where >it recognizes the harddrive and that there's an ATAPI device. It then gets >to the point of recognizing the correct CD-ROM. The line is: >NEC CD-ROM Drive:282 3.07 I would be inclined to blame an incompatibility with the NEC drive. Note in NeXTanswer 2265 that no NEC drives are in the supported list, and 2 NEC drives are in the Known Problems list. I was able to install successfully, after a bit of hassle, from a Toshiba 5602 drive. It's not in the supported list, but the 5302 is. The hassle factor came in the form of conflicting and confusing information and some unexpected behavior. The machine has two EIDE interfaces, and was originally configured with the hard disk on one, and the CD-ROM on the other. I tried to get this to work with the Dual EIDE driver option, but it would not recognize the CD drive. I then moved the CD drive to the slave position on the first EIDE interface. This worked, but I can't recall exactly which driver choices I used - probably just the normal EIDE driver (not the dual), specifying that to the install dialog for both the CD and hard disk interfaces. Whichever tech note suggests specifying the CD as SCSI with an Adaptech interface, is either obsolete or a red herring. Once the kernel starts, the device probe messages hint that at some point the CD may be internally spoofed up to look like it's on SCSI, but from the user's point of view, this now seems to be irrelevant. Once the installer could see the CD, everything installed and ran fine, and CD insertion and operations work fine in the running OS. I'd suggest that the first thing to do is to buy/beg/borrow a CD drive which is at first glance related to one listed in NeXTanswers 2265, and hook it up to the slave position on the first EIDE. [Following is irrelevant to the query, but I'm exploiting the forum to troll for help on another Prelude install glitch.] See also my gripe in comp.sys.next.software about WebObject Builder not being runnable on Mach due to some apparent missing things (looks like they're part of EOF, which wasn't in the Prelude package). It does appear to run OK when installed on NT (gak, phooey), though. Brad Yearwood bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (make that crl.com) Cotati, CA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!206.250.118.17!nntp.earthlink.net!!user From: "Robert Norman" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cannot mount root - 2940AU Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:30:14 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool057-max2.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail & News for Macintosh - 3.0 Hello group! I'm a PC novice riding the OpenStep wave from WWDC. So... I've now got a new PC, installed an Adaptec 2940AU with a Seagate ST31055N 1.2G. I setup the serial and parallel ports per install OpenStep configuration instructions. Disconnected the IDE CDRom (should it be disabled in the BIOS?), and did the Openstep install from floppy disk and SCSI CDRom. I've been able to go through the full install procedure but on reboot from my SCSI device I get the Panic message "(Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root)" This is in the context: .... Resetting SCSI Bus... Registering: A2940_0 at 0x6000 .... Registering: SG0 at sc0 .... Registering: kmDevice0 rootdev 300, howto 0 vfs_mountroot: error=19 ---------- When I first ran into this problem, I used the Adaptec utility to reformat the disk, but did nothing with FDISK with the assumption that the OpenStep install would properly prepare the disk. The reinstall of OpenStep again proceeded OK and finished saying the disk was ready to use. Then got the Panic message again and now I'm about to panic? Any suggestions? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!malgudi.oar.net!news.iac.net!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!oronet!i541.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Win a FREE subscription to @Society Magazine Newsletter Date: 22 May 1997 20:37:08 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i541.oro.net Every 50th susbscriber to @Society Magazine Newsletter will win their subscription for FREE and their original check payment will be sent back to them. Better odds than our California lottery :-) Come visit our WWW pages at: http://www.oro.net/~tj Come find out about our new newsletter covering everything NeXT and join the fun! TJ Ferreira @Society Magazine Newsletter #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Single user: yes, multi: no Date: 22 May 1997 18:11:56 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5m229c$nti$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] is your drive IDE or EIDE drive??? what kind of machine is it? Matt Covey (asila@metawire.com) wrote: : Sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't find any past newsgroup : messages to this specific problem: : I'm trying to get the "Prelude to Rhapsody" (OpenStep prerelease 4.2) : installed on a no-name Intel clone which has an IDE hard-disk and IDE : CD-ROM. By selecting the "EIDE and ATAPI" driver I've gotten the first : part of the installation to work. : I can bring the machine up in single user mode and see that the files have : indeed been copied from the CD-ROM to the hard disk. : However, the system hangs when going to multiuser mode right after : printing (using the "-v" boot option) the "EIDE" message of the : "Configuring Device Drivers" section. : Does this ring any bells? Is there a newer (than the one on the prerelease : 4.2 floppy) "EIDE" driver that I need? Or is this my hardware (but then : why does single user mode work?) : Thanks for any help, : ++matt : PS The only documentation I was able to find that even mentioned this was : the "EIDE/ATAPI Support in NEXTSTEP 3.3" note. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 22 May 1997 18:10:19 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] There is an English next newsletter check CSN.annouce or misc.. the guy that puts it out is a headhunter for next specialists i think.. the newsletter got job postings and news.. pretty good summaries of what went on.. unless i was hallucinating.. I got one the last few months! I think the newsletter started with 4.0 was just about to come out. Godwin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: memory on NextDimension Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:20:44 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 24 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flanweb.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) Is there a way to tell how much memory is installed on an ND board once t= he computer is up and running and the OS installed? I've looked through p= references, etc, and I can't see anything that reports the NDs memory. The reason I am curious is that I know I have installed 40 megs of ram on= the ND board, but during the operating system installation process, it r= eported only 16 megs and I'd rather not reinstall just to see that number= again... I get the correct report of the memory on the motherboard--64 megs--when = I jump into the ROM monitor and type m, but I dont' see any information a= bout the nextdimension board at all. NextAnswers has confused me more than anything else. In one place it says= an ND board requires simms to be installed in groups of 4, yet if the in= stallation process report of the memory the ND actually sees is correct, = then it's only seeing the first two 8 meg simms (or, the two 8s and the 2 4s in the next slots) as 16 megs, a= nd ignoring the remaining 4 meg simms installed. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!newsgate.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:36:56 GMT Lines: 23 In article "Robert A. Decker" writes: > > Is there any problem in using two different video cards from two > different manufacturers as long as both are listed as being supported? > > rob > If you are talking about using two PCI video boards for OpenStep/Mach in an Intel PC at the same time: yes, expect some problems. Most boards claim the standard VGA address space. On a very limited number of boards (e.g. the Matrox Millenium), you can disable this behaviour, so it can be used as a second video board and you may be able to boot your system. But even then I don't think it will work. I suppose the two videodrivers of your boards must know how to handle a double sized desktop and split it over the two boards. I am not certain about this; ten years ago you could have a cube with two screens. So may be it is handled at a higher level. Anyone? hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!smartdna!news.io.com!terry From: terry@arcane.com (Terry Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: memory on NextDimension Date: 22 May 1997 21:41:35 GMT Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. Lines: 20 Sender: terry@www.arcane.com Message-ID: References: Reply-To: terry@arcane.com NNTP-Posting-Host: www.arcane.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 UNIX) On Thu, 22 May 1997 15:20:44 -0400, David Herren wrote: >The reason I am curious is that I know I have installed 40 megs of ram on= > the ND board, but during the operating system installation process, it r= >eported only 16 megs and I'd rather not reinstall just to see that number= > again... If you've got 40 megs, including two 8's, I'm assuming you've got two 8's and six 4's. When it says groups of 4 simms, it means 4 identical simms. You either need to go to four 8's and four 4's or eight 4's. It's likely just seeing four of the 4's and ignoring the group of combined 8's and 4's. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox Arcane Systems Ltd. terry@arcane.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 22 May 1997 20:26:59 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5m2a6j$m1$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5m24hb$mma@crl2.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo2.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25939 comp.sys.next.advocacy:69190 comp.sys.next.hardware:28958 you can get EOF runtime somewhere in nextanswers or ftp.next.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!daver!tandem!usenet From: Joaquin Menchaca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:27:09 -0700 Organization: Sombody out there Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3384C83D.9E6AB85C@tandem.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 155.186.86.224 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Is there information I can get for the NeXT Cube? I want to get info on the components, chipsets, and ports. - joaquin #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!romanog From: romanog@netcom.com (DPGC) Subject: Hardware/Software delivered anywhere in the world! Message-ID: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 00:21:37 GMT Lines: 4 Sender: romanog@netcom19.netcom.com If you need computer hardware, software in large ammounts anywhere in the world reply now to 10-4systems@usa.net, we have the lowest prices, we will arange it as fast as possible. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!xmission!not-for-mail From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: 23 May 1997 01:24:18 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> Reply-To: don@globalobjects.com NNTP-Posting-Host: brain.misckit.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Has anyone got experience getting scanners to work under OPENSTEP? What software and drivers might be needed? Here's my specific situation: I have a dual-boot machine running OPENSTEP 4.1 and Win95 and a cheap-o Mustek TWAIN-compliant flatbed color scanner. It comes with the software needed to make it work from Win95/NT, but I have no idea where to even start to make it work under OPENSTEP. I'd really like to be able to use it without having to boot into Win95. Oh, and of course I'd like a free--or really cheap--solution, though I suspect that if a solution exists it will cost more than the scanner did... If I could get it working under OPENSTEP then the only reason I'd have to ever use Win95 is to play games...and the less I use Winblows the happier I'll be. :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com My home page #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!newsfeed2.aimnet.com!news7.dearborn.agis.net!newspeer.dearborn.agis.net!agis!news.ichange.net!ichange!st084.ichange.net!user From: Popadich@umich.edu (Alex Popadich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940 - Sanyo CRD-245S install problems Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 22:00:37 -0500 Organization: Health Media Research Lab -- UofM Cancer Center Lines: 57 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: st084.ichange.net I'm happy to say that I am the proud recipient of Apple's WWDC Openstep/Prelude to Rhapsody software. I can honestly say I'm excited about installing this OS and giving it try. I even purchased an Intel machine a while back ago for this very reason. Configuration is: Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter SCSI id 0: FUJITSU Hard Disk internal SCSI id 2: SANYO CD-Rom internal Diamond Stealth 64 video VRAM 3Com Etherlink III I have my IDE controller disabled and Power Management Disabled. Unfortunately it seems that installing system software on an Intel machine isn't the same as running a system installer on a Mac...I guess this is the advantage of having total control over the hardware... I've followed the prelude to rhapsody installation guide as closely as possible, but I can't get the CD-Rom to boot OpenStep. I'm hoping to avoid having to tear my computer appart, and digging around with terminators and such. If anyone has any ideas as to what might be wrong I would really appreciate your help. Thanks Alex Popadich The following is an excerpt from my installer log: Registering: EISA0 PCI bus support enabled Registering: PCI0 Registering: PCMCIA0 PCIC: No device at base address 0x03e0 Adaptec 2940 Host adapter found at Bus 0 Target 7 a2940_0: 16 Targets per Bus Resetting SCSI Bus... Registering: a2940_0 at 0xfc00 Registering: sc0 at a2940_0 SCSI Bus 0 Target 7 sd0: FUJITSU M1606S-512 bytes sd0: Device Capacity: 1041 MB sd1: SANYO CRD-245S 1.01 Registering: sd1 at Target 2 LUN 0 at sc0 sd1: Waiting for drive to come ready................ sd1: Disk Not Ready Registering: sg0 at sc0 Registering: sg1 at sc0 Registering: sg2 at sc0 Registering: sg3 at sc0 Registering: event0 Registering: kmDevice0 root on sd1 rootdev 608, howto 0 vfs_mountroot: error=15 panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rkurhajetz@aol.com (Rkurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: seeking : Nextstep 3.3 on Intel tech help in Washington-Baltimore Area Date: 23 May 1997 03:23:19 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <19970523032301.XAA28894@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Hello Looking for Nextstep-on-Intel savvy technical assistance in the Washington-Balitmore area - have a system that has been partially completed by a vendor who is not real " tuned in" to NS on Intel and I could really use some help in getting the system into a fully functioning mode - the problem at this point is primarily related to the video board ( have tried both a Number Nine 771 Motion and a Diamond Stealth 64 ) and the 2 GB Quantum disk - any and all help - assistance - inspiration much appreciated - Bob Kurhajetz please respond to my work e-mail bob@monet.dt.navy.mil #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ott.istar!n4tor.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 23 May 1997 03:21:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 05/22/97, Godwin wrote: >There is an English next newsletter check CSN.annouce or misc.. >the guy that puts it out is a headhunter for next specialists i >think.. the newsletter got job postings and news.. pretty good >summaries of what went on.. > You're referring to the OpenStep Newsletter from Chris Lowzinski. Unfortunately, its often got glaringly wrong assumptions and interpretations in it, and corrected information sent to the author has been ignored.. >unless i was hallucinating.. I got one the last few months! I think >the newsletter started with 4.0 was just about to come out. > I don't think the NeXT world really needs a magazine at this point, and I have my doubts about this particular endeavour due to the number of ads they've been posting in these newsgroups... -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!news.hal-pc.org!tower From: davidl@hal-pc.org (David Ludwig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep/Mach RAM requirements Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 05:50:37 GMT Organization: Houston Area League of PC Users Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5m3b9j$c6a$1@news.hal-pc.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: max4-2.hal-pc.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 I'm interesting in installing Openstep/Mach on a laptop whose RAM is maxxed out at 20MB. How much luck will I have speed-wise using 8-bit color? The requirements sheet for the OS recommends at least 16MB, however I learned long ago not to trust a company's 'requirements'. Thanks! -- David Ludwig | "Just because you're paranoid doesn't davidl@hal-pc.org | mean that they're not out to get you." http://www.hal-pc.org/~davidl | - Catch 22 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!EU.net!news.eunet.cz!hurka!tom From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Subject: Re: Cannot mount root - 2940AU Message-ID: Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka) Reply-To: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.) References: <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 07:46:24 GMT Lines: 44 In article <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> "Robert Norman" writes: > I'm a PC novice riding the OpenStep wave from WWDC. > > So... I've now got a new PC, installed an Adaptec 2940AU with a > Seagate ST31055N 1.2G. I setup the serial and parallel ports > per install OpenStep configuration instructions. Disconnected > the IDE CDRom (should it be disabled in the BIOS?), and did the > Openstep install from floppy disk and SCSI CDRom. I've been able > to go through the full install procedure but on reboot from my > SCSI device I get the Panic message "(Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: > cannot mount root)" > > This is in the context: > .... > Resetting SCSI Bus... > Registering: A2940_0 at 0x6000 > .... > Registering: SG0 at sc0 > .... > Registering: kmDevice0 > rootdev 300, howto 0 > vfs_mountroot: error=19 rootdev 300 identifies the root device. 300 means first IDE disk. So the system tries to put root file system on your IDE disk instead of your SCSI disk. The correct number for you is rootdev 600. This is the identification of the first SCSI drive. I think that the installation recognized that you have IDE disk (did you loaded the IDE/EIDE driver?) and it tries to be smart and put the rootdev on IDE disk, since the IDE disk is the one the system normally boot from. I advice you go to the BIOS setup (PC Config Utility ROM) of your computer and completely disable the whole EIDE/IDE interface or at least disconnect your IDE driver for installation. Than do the installation once more. This way we will be sure that there is no EIDE/IDE interface so the installation cannot put the root device on it. Once you finish the whole installation you can enable the EIDE/IDE interface and install the EIDE driver using Configure.app in /NextAdmin directory. Good luck, -- Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: memory on NextDimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 03:11:30 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 26 In article , David Herren wrote: >Is there a way to tell how much memory is installed on an ND board once t= >he computer is up and running and the OS installed? I've looked through p= >references, etc, and I can't see anything that reports the NDs memory. > It's printed when the system boots, so if you chug through /usr/adm/messages you should be able to find it. >NextAnswers has confused me more than anything else. In one place it says= > an ND board requires simms to be installed in groups of 4, yet if the in= >stallation process report of the memory the ND actually sees is correct, = >then it's only seeing the first two >8 meg simms (or, the two 8s and the 2 4s in the next slots) as 16 megs, a= >nd ignoring the remaining 4 meg simms installed. > They *must* be installed in groups of four identical SIMMs, otherwise very weird things will happen. The ND has a 128-bit data bus. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.pagesat.net!news.he.net!news.megsinet.net!tlawriw From: tsnSSSmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.modems,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.storage Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE%%%%%%%%@! Date: Fri, 23 May 97 11:01:34 GMT Organization: MegsInet, Inc. - Midwestern Internet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: na-209-81-156-11.chicago.megsinet.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.online-service.america-online:21469 alt.online-service.compuserve:19479 alt.online-service.freenet:2972 alt.online-service.genie:7745 alt.online-service.microsoft:6822 alt.online-service.prodigy:36691 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:74317 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:29150 comp.sys.mac.portables:88465 comp.sys.misc:5851 comp.sys.next.hardware:28968 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17696 comp.sys.next.misc:25946 misc.entrepreneurs:280048 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11745 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc:14209 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video:10735 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc:52906 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables:30619 misc.forsale.computers.memory:71346 misc.forsale.computers.modems:35369 misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware:27885 misc.forsale.computers.other.misc:56985 misc.forsale.computers.other.software:26538 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc:24970 misc.forsale.computers.storage:65204 Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 10:30:42 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk [193.195.55.1] Lines: 32 In article <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) writes: > > Has anyone got experience getting scanners to work under OPENSTEP? What > software and drivers might be needed? > NeXTStep is sadly deficient for scanner support. Hopefully Rhapsody will improve the situation. Currently there is no standard driver interface :-( There are two shareware apps: "ScanMaker.app is a driver for the Microtek ScanMaker, OmniMedia 6cx (A ScanMaker 600ZS clone), and the Apple Color OneScanner." and "the 0.91b version of "scan", a scanner driver which supports the UMAX Vista S-8 scanner". This comes with source, and plug in drivers. I've looked at it briefly and it looks relativly straigh forwards. CAS has software which supports Ricoh4X0, HP Scanjet, Sharp JX10(?), AGFA, Dunord Improvision, and Dunord Fujitsu. Unfortunatly it's pretty specialised stuff, and not really very suited to casual scanning (it's designed for scanning 1000's of animation drawings). It's also expensive if you just want to put a few images on your web page. Your best bet would be to write a new driver for "Scan", unless anyone knows better? $an (they guy who got dumped with supporting scanners at CAS) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!news.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: 23 May 1997 13:27:44 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5m460g$bnk$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: ians@cam-ani.co.uk In Ian Stephenson wrote: > In article <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> don@globalobjects.com (Don > Yacktman) writes: > > Has anyone got experience getting scanners to work under OPENSTEP? What > > software and drivers might be needed? > NeXTStep is sadly deficient for scanner support. Hopefully Rhapsody will > improve the situation. > Currently there is no standard driver interface :-( > There are two shareware apps: > "ScanMaker.app is a driver for the Microtek ScanMaker, OmniMedia 6cx (A > ScanMaker 600ZS clone), and the Apple Color OneScanner." > and "the 0.91b version of "scan", a scanner driver which > supports the UMAX Vista S-8 scanner". This comes with source, and plug in > drivers. I've looked at it briefly and it looks relativly straigh > forwards. > CAS has software which supports Ricoh4X0, HP Scanjet, Sharp JX10(?), AGFA, > Dunord Improvision, and Dunord Fujitsu. Unfortunatly it's pretty > specialised stuff, and not really very suited to casual scanning (it's > designed for scanning 1000's of animation drawings). It's also expensive > if you just want to put a few images on your web page. > Your best bet would be to write a new driver for "Scan", unless anyone > knows better? A freeware user level driver including source for the Mustek CX6000 (3-pass) scanner series is available on my homepage. (Beware: This scanner has a real bad SCSI interface and dislikes any synchronous transfers on the bus, it seems to works at a m68k NeXT) Usually it is easy to port a, say Linux or BSD driver, over to NeXTSTEP/OpenStep. I have the needed SCSI sources here, just give me a call. There are several commercial solutions, see ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/Commercial/hardware/scanner/ -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!peernews.ftech.net!telehouse1.frontier-networks.co.uk!basilisk.pdc.nhs.gov.uk!yama.mcc.ac.uk!news.york.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Single user: yes, multi: no Date: 23 May 1997 10:09:52 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <5m3qdg$4s4$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nicecuppa.ohm.york.ac.uk Lines: 19 asila@metawire.com (Matt Covey) writes: > However, the system hangs when going to multiuser mode right after > printing (using the "-v" boot option) the "EIDE" message of the > "Configuring Device Drivers" section. Yeah - it may well be your PS2 mouse driver which causes hanging on some motherboards which don't have such a device. Boot single user, go into /devices/System.config and take out the PS2 mouse from the table files you will find there. Actually - if you want to find out for sure which driver is hanging then boot single user and type 'driverLoader i' which will go through the drivers one at a time loading them and asking yes or no before each one - that way you can see which one is causing the freeze (and then remove it from the tables). bet it's the PS2 mouse though... -bat. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 23 May 1997 15:11:05 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .09] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28972 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26802 I have a Pentium Pro system with an Adaptec 2940UW SCSI controller. Currently I have a Baracuda 4.3gb boot drive that I have set asside only 2 Gb for NextStep. I just purchased a Seagate Cheeta 4.5Gb Wide SCSI drive and I would like to install it as my boot drive. I'd like to partition it something like this sd0a partition 2Gb sd1a partition .5Gb (for swap space) 2GB dos partition Now here's the questions.... 1.) From what I understand the WIDE SCSI drives have to be at lun 8 and above, is this true? 2.) [Newbie question here] Is there anyway (with my existing hardware) to boot from the Cheeta drive and have other (narrow SCSI drives) on luns 1-6? 3.) How do I create a NeXT/Openstep bootable WIDE SCSI (or for that matter any SCSI disk) disk that has more than one NeXT partition on a Pentium Pro? My basic (and it is very very basic) understanding is to partition the disk using DOS fdisk, but with the PentiumPro I can't boot from dos 6. Should I try to boot to Win96 using the Baracuda drive, and partition the Cheeta drive using Win95 fdisk? Why won't NeXT's fdisk work? Thank's in advance for any help or suggestions.... David A. Johnson Research Engineer Northwestern University #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 23 May 1997 15:45:29 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Lines: 25 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:28973 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26803 daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I have a Pentium Pro system with an Adaptec 2940UW SCSI controller. > Currently I have a Baracuda 4.3gb boot drive that I have set > asside only 2 Gb for NextStep. > I just purchased a Seagate Cheeta 4.5Gb Wide SCSI drive and I > would like to install it as my boot drive. I'd like to partition > it something like this > sd0a partition 2Gb sd1a partition .5Gb > (for swap space) 2GB dos partition This is NOT wise. If you make another partition the swap drive, it will THRASH the drive. i.e. as you read some files in partition a, and a pge swap occurs in partition b, the head of the drive will have to leave partition a, travel to partition b, then go back to partition a. You will get a net performance decrease. If you want to gain performance, you need a seperate drive for swapping, not a seperate partition. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.68.62.43!oronet!i483.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 23 May 1997 16:30:41 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: i483.oro.net Well, I guess everyone has their own opinions. It is our belief a NeXT based newsletter is needed and will be fun for all involved. The main goal here is to get the NeXT community pulled together and to find out more about one another. Also, the number of ads comment is interesting. We have not really placed that many ads here but are keeping up on a weekly basis until our links in Yahoo! and other directories are in place. As you probably know, it takes a while for the directories to make the link active and until then, I wanted to keep all aware of our endeavour. When the links are active, you will find less posts about the newsletter. Anywho, we do appreciate all comments. Take care, TJ Ferreira @Society Magazine Newsletter http://www.oro.net/~tj In article <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: > On 05/22/97, Godwin wrote: > >There is an English next newsletter check CSN.annouce or misc.. > >the guy that puts it out is a headhunter for next specialists i > >think.. the newsletter got job postings and news.. pretty good > >summaries of what went on.. > > > > You're referring to the OpenStep Newsletter from Chris > Lowzinski. > > Unfortunately, its often got glaringly wrong assumptions and > interpretations in it, and corrected information sent to the author > has been ignored.. > > > >unless i was hallucinating.. I got one the last few months! I think > >the newsletter started with 4.0 was just about to come out. > > > > > I don't think the NeXT world really needs a magazine at this > point, and I have my doubts about this particular endeavour due to the > number of ads they've been posting in these newsgroups... > > > > -- > Scott Anguish > NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.best.com!miwok!news.metawire.com!NewsWatcher!user From: asila@metawire.com (Matt Covey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Single user: yes, multi: no Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 09:12:29 -0800 Organization: MetaWire, Inc Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <5m229c$nti$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.219.92.162 X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 In article <5m229c$nti$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: > is your drive IDE or EIDE drive??? what kind of machine is it? This is a machine that was - literaly - handed to me. It's built (OEM'd?) by "Classic Computers". The drive is a SAMSUNG WNR-31601A. (I was told EIDE - but then I did PenPoint programming, too [besides Unix/Mac].) ++matt #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.117.26.202!news.leonardo.net!usenet From: Robert Thille Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ca.forsale,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems,la.forsale Subject: FS: NeXTStation Turbo Color 400HD, 16MB $1000+s/h Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 11:15:44 -0700 Organization: ICTV Inc. Lines: 41 Message-ID: <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com> Reply-To: robert@ictv.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.227.183.233 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17702 ca.forsale:29932 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:74352 comp.sys.mac.system:218613 comp.sys.next.hardware:28976 misc.forsale.computers:13119 misc.forsale.computers.workstation:46447 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems:49810 Mac Developers, get a head start on Rhapsody! For Sale: NeXTStation Turbo Color, 400MB Hard Drive, 16MB RAM NO monitor, but with sound box, keyboard and mouse and all cables. It's configured with NS 3.2 user, but 3.2 User and Developer CDs are included. 16 MB of RAM and 400 MB hard drive. $1000 + shipping. Free delivery in the Santa Barbara/Santa Maria area It's not ADB, but I believe it has the ROMs which would allow it to be used with an ADB keyboard and mouse. If you know the ROM version necessary, let me know and I'll check. You would still need the ADB sound box. Also, here are the answers to other questions I've got about the machine: Work machine. Not a server. We used sparcs for the servers. Non adb, L shaped return key keyboard. I believe it is the original quantum hard drive. I can check. No original boxes. Reached best via e-mail, or call 805.692.9834 Robert -- Robert Thille NeXTMail robert@ictv.com OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ott.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 23 May 1997 21:25:26 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 105 Message-ID: <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 On 05/23/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: >Well, I guess everyone has their own opinions. It is our belief >a NeXT based newsletter is needed and will be fun for all involved. >The main goal here is to get the NeXT community pulled together >and to find out more about one another. > I think anyone who knows what I've been up to knows that I'm all for this. And I don't want to be putting down any effort to raise NEXTSTEP awareness through whatever means, and I'm sure that the following is going to seem that that is my goal. It is not. >Also, the number of ads comment is interesting. We have not really >placed that many ads here but are keeping up on a weekly basis >until our links in Yahoo! and other directories are in place. As >you probably know, it takes a while for the directories to make >the link active and until then, I wanted to keep all aware of our >endeavour. When the links are active, you will find less posts >about the newsletter. > With all due respect, advertising in inappropriate places for whatever reason is wrong. Advertising repeatedly is even worse. 05/22 - csn.advocacy - Win a FREE subscription 05/22 - csn.marketplace - Win a FREE subscription 05/22 - csn.hardware - Win a FREE subscription 05/20 - csn.hardware - Tired of NO NeXT magazines 05/20 - csn.marketplace - Tired of NO NeXT magazines 05/15 - csn.marketplace - *NEW* NeXT User Group Rates 05/13 - csn.misc - Subscribe to @Society Newsletter 05/06 - csn.marketplace - @Society Magazine ... 05/02 - csn.marketplace - @Society Magazine ... 05/01 - csn.misc - @Society Magazine ... There have also been at least 2 messages to comp.sys.next.announce that have been posted at the same time as posts to other NeXT newsgroups (which the submissions document mentions means that they won't be posted). As I've said, I'm all for new avenues of quality information, but not when its promotion is done using improper techniques. >Anywho, we do appreciate all comments. > >Take care, > >TJ Ferreira >@Society Magazine Newsletter >http://www.oro.net/~tj > >In article <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott >Anguish) wrote: > >> On 05/22/97, Godwin wrote: >> >There is an English next newsletter check CSN.annouce or misc.. >> >the guy that puts it out is a headhunter for next specialists i >> >think.. the newsletter got job postings and news.. pretty good >> >summaries of what went on.. >> > >> >> You're referring to the OpenStep Newsletter from Chris >> Lowzinski. >> >> Unfortunately, its often got glaringly wrong assumptions and >> interpretations in it, and corrected information sent to the author >> has been ignored.. >> >> >> >unless i was hallucinating.. I got one the last few months! I think >> >the newsletter started with 4.0 was just about to come out. >> > >> >> >> I don't think the NeXT world really needs a magazine at this >> point, and I have my doubts about this particular endeavour due to the >> number of ads they've been posting in these newsgroups... >> >> >> >> -- >> Scott Anguish >> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information > -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: boot cube from floppy? Date: 23 May 1997 23:00:05 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 56 Message-ID: <5m57hl$acj$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <19970520191623545950@dyn-144.vin.oleane.com> Reply-To: clowenst@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.0.2 Beta(n) Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu In David Herren wrote: > objectivesw@dial.oleane.com writes: > >OK, just jump to the ROM Monitor by hiting command + command (left and > >right) + tilde and then type "bfd" (Boot Floppy Disk) = > So I've managed to do the above, and I've managed to do 3 installations > and I'm conducting the fourth now. > > After the first installation when it said it had to reboot, I hit return > and it began to reboot. Unfortunately it rebooted single user from the CD. > So I reinstalled. You didn't need to reinstall. The only reason the system would reboot from the CDrom is that the CD reader is set to a lower SCSI ID than the hard disk. You could have shut the system down and changed the ID on the CD drive, and then powered up again. > After the second installation I hit return to reboot, but to prevent it > booting from the Cd, I removed the Cd first. Bad move--the reboot program > is on the CD and I got tons of errors. So I reinstalled. You didn't need to reinstall. It is not that the reboot program is on the CD. It is that in the absence of any other instructions, the boot ROM will boot the SCSI drive that has the lowest SCSI ID. Of course, if there is no disk in the drive, you will get "tons of errors". > After the third installation I hit return to reboot and I got an animated= > icon saying "Loading from disc." (interesting that I've not seen this on= > white hardware). I was prepared for black hardware to be slower, but 3 h= > ours and 10 minutes later it was > still spinning its icon and saying "Loading from disc." You didn't need to reinstall. By this time, you should have gone to the boot ROM and select "verbose mode" bootup, so you can see what is going on, rather than watching the spinning wheel. >so I'm in the middle of the fouth install now. > Anyone have any suggestions? Yes. Change the CD reader so it has a SCSI ID higher than that of the hard drive. > David Herren -------------------------------------------------- > General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Also fix your reply-to address so when I send you email I don't get back "Host unknown" messages. panther.middlebury.edu does not know flannet carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: multiple internal scsi drives on black Date: 23 May 1997 23:24:09 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 52 Message-ID: <5m58up$acj$2@news1.ucsd.edu> References: Reply-To: clowenst@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.0.2 Beta(n) Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu In David Herren wrote: > I have > another scsi device, a 270 meg quantum, that I intend to > use as a swap disc and for /tmp. Unfortunately the jumpers > for this drive for setting the scsi address are missing and > they are of a small type that I don't seem to be sble to > find spares for, and so this device is limited to ID 00. You really should try to get some jumpers. Or use wire-wrap to connect the pins. It will make your future life much easier. > When the swap drive is unconnected, the cube boots normally. > When I connect it, the boot fails with a scsi error. I know > that I can jump into the ROM monitor and use the b command > to boot from the floppy (bfd) or from the optical (not > installed) or from a scsi device (bsd). How do I specify > which scsi id the machine should boot from? I've tried a > variety of parameters but haven't hit upon the right combination. bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1 Will boot and run from the drive with the second-highest SCSI ID. The two parts of the command above mean, respectively: bsd(1,0,0) Get the bootstrap code from device sd1, and run a file named sdmach. rootdev=sd1 And, by the way, use sd1 as the root file system. It is not necessary for the operating system to reside on the root file system, just usual practise. But that's too long a message to store in the NVRAM for the computer to remember automatically when the power comes on, since there is a limit of 12 characters. You might try setting the boot command parameter to sd(1,0,0)- and see if that works. To reiterate, trying to have a swapdisk at an address lower than the root disk will cause you a lot of software pain. Try harder to find some jumpers. Let me know if you can measure the separation of the pins, I have a fairly extensive collection of old jumpers of various sizes. > David Herren -------------------------------------------------- > General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu panther.middlebury.edu does not recognize flannet.middlebury.edu carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ott.istar!n1van.istar!istar!news.istar.net!van-bc!drehring From: drehring@infowave.net (David Rehring) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ca.forsale,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems,la.forsale Subject: Re: FS: NeXTStation Turbo Color 400HD, 16MB $1000+s/h Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:31:54 -0800 Organization: InfoWave Wireless Messaging Inc. Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host113.gdt.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17708 ca.forsale:29944 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:74386 comp.sys.mac.system:218651 comp.sys.next.hardware:28980 misc.forsale.computers:13122 misc.forsale.computers.workstation:46455 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems:49841 In article <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com>, robert@ictv.com wrote: >Mac Developers, get a head start on Rhapsody! > >For Sale: NeXTStation Turbo Color, 400MB Hard Drive, 16MB RAM > > >NO monitor, but with sound box, keyboard and mouse >and all cables. > >It's configured with NS 3.2 user, but 3.2 User and Developer >CDs are included. > >16 MB of RAM and 400 MB hard drive. > >$1000 + shipping. Free delivery in the Santa Barbara/Santa Maria area > Is it just me, or does this price seem a little high for this box considering it doesn't come with it's monitor (since you need the NeXT specific one). Most of the 'Turbo-stations' I've seen in comp.sys.next.marketplace are in the $500-$1000, but also include the monitor (which ain't cheep)... Just my 1 cent worth... Later, -- David Rehring Psychos do not explode when light hits Senior Software Engineer them, no matter how crazy they are... InfoWave Wireless Messaging Inc. (Formerly GDT Softworks, Inc.) And totally insane guy! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!grapool30.rz.uni-frankfurt.de!tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de!newsmaster From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 - Sanyo CRD-245S install problems Date: 24 May 1997 00:14:28 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5m5bt4$ahn@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin118.rz.uni-frankfurt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Popadich@umich.edu (Alex Popadich) wrote: > > I'm happy to say that I am the proud recipient of Apple's WWDC > Openstep/Prelude to Rhapsody software. I can honestly say I'm excited > about installing this OS and giving it try. I even purchased an Intel > machine a while back ago for this very reason. > > Configuration is: > Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter > SCSI id 0: FUJITSU Hard Disk internal > SCSI id 2: SANYO CD-Rom internal > Diamond Stealth 64 video VRAM > 3Com Etherlink III > > I have my IDE controller disabled and Power Management Disabled. > > Unfortunately it seems that installing system software on an Intel machine > isn't the same as running a system installer on a Mac...I guess this is > the advantage of having total control over the hardware... Bad news: it is exactly your CD-ROM (sd1: SANYO CRD-245S 1.01) that for some reason has proven incompatible with NEXTSTEP. Replace it with a, say, Toshiba, and everything will work... Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp.earthlink.net!!user From: "Robert Norman" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installed -- now how to boot multiuser Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 18:29:58 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5m5ge3$3q7@ecuador.earthlink.net> References: <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> <5m5f2t$f7u@chile.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool059-max3.pasadena.ca.us.dialup.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail & News for Macintosh - 3.0 In article <5m5f2t$f7u@chile.earthlink.net>, "Robert Norman" wrote: > >Thanks Tomas, > >I've been able to continue with my install after disabling my "primary >master" under Standard CMOS setup. (When I tried to disable the "Internal >PCI/IDE", the system hung.) So now I've installed OpenStep -- thank you for >that, but now I don't know how to get into multiuser mode - I know that I >need to get into multiuser mode as 'root' in order to install OpenStep >Developer but I just boot up as "ME". I've searched all the docs, and >tried playing with various apps to turn on multiuser but I'm stuck. > > >Rob Norman (This was suppose to go under my original "Cannot mount root..." thread but I'm also new to newsgroups) OK I've solved the multiuser question. The relevant part of the user documentation is "If you're logged in as 'me', GIVE YOURSELF A PASSWORD and log out. Then log in as root. If you don't set a password, you won't pass go! I've just finished installing DeveloperTools.pkg while writing this. Now on to interface builder, I hope. Rob Norman "Prelude to Rhapsody" or Foreplay 101. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp.earthlink.net!!user From: "Robert Norman" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installed -- now how to boot multiuser Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 18:06:57 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5m5f2t$f7u@chile.earthlink.net> References: <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool053-max5.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail & News for Macintosh - 3.0 Thanks Tomas, I've been able to continue with my install after disabling my "primary master" under Standard CMOS setup. (When I tried to disable the "Internal PCI/IDE", the system hung.) So now I've installed OpenStep -- thank you for that, but now I don't know how to get into multiuser mode - I know that I need to get into multiuser mode as 'root' in order to install OpenStep Developer but I just boot up as "ME". I've searched all the docs, and tried playing with various apps to turn on multiuser but I'm stuck. Rob Norman #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!colloquy.apple.com!news2.apple.com!not-for-mail From: svail@next.com (Scott Vail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Drivers for 3COM EtherLink XL PCI under OpenStep 4.x for Intel Date: 24 May 1997 04:33:41 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 46 Message-ID: <5m5r35$cgq$1@news2.apple.com> References: Reply-To: svail@next.com NNTP-Posting-Host: snoqualmie.apple.com In article wirehead@netcom.com (David J Harr) writes: > > I have been spending way too much time trying to get my Intel machine > up and running w/ OS 4.2, instead of programming it to prove it is a > superior development environment to my boss. I have gotten through > all the gotchas, but one, and this one is a doozy. We have bought a > whole boatload of 3COM EtherLink XL PCI cards to run as our ethernet > cards in our PCs, The nice thing about these cards is that they are > switchable 10-BaseT/100-BaseT. However, try as I might, I seem to be > unable to get the system to recognize the card. As a stopgap, I have > gone back to one of our old EtherLink III ISA cards, which the system > recognizes just fine. However, this is a less than optimal solution, > as this machine will be acting as a server for our development efforts > if I can prove the worth of the development environment, and having a > server on a 10-BaseT connection while all the clients are on 100-BaseT > connection is a rather paradoxical if not downright perverse state of > affairs... > > If anyone knows of any compatible drivers for this card, I would be > very grateful if you would contact me, or leave word in this newsgroup > if you feel the answer is of general interest. > > Thanks, > > > David > > > David J Harr > soldier of misfortune > wirehead@netcom.com > > "We crash your computer, so you don't have to!" These drivers are not yet available from Apple (though they should be soon). Keep your eye on Apple Intel Beta Drivers web-page: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/NABrowse?/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_Inf ormation/Drivers/4.x_Drivers/Beta --Scott -- This is not official NeXT/Apple stuff, so ignore me if you want. http://www.next.com/~svail/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wetware!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 23:00:22 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Scott Anguish In-Reply-To: <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat > With all due respect, advertising in inappropriate places for > whatever reason is wrong. Advertising repeatedly is even worse. I'd have to agree.... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!usenet From: "Tony Chow" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix/IBM 6x86 and NeXTSTEP Date: 23 May 1997 22:29:06 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Lines: 3 Message-ID: <01bc67c8$d2ae7520$e0686180@test.ocga.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.97.104.224 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Has anyone experienced any problems with this combination? I have an IBM 6x86L PR-166 (the newest model). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!usenet From: "Tony Chow" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How's this hardware setup for NX 3.3? Date: 23 May 1997 22:33:47 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Lines: 15 Message-ID: <01bc67c9$7a459840$e0686180@test.ocga.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.97.104.224 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 I have -Tyan Tomcat I motherboard -IBM 6x86L PR-166 CPU -Adaptec 2930 SCSI-2 card -3 Internal IDE HD's on two EIDE controllers -Panasonic SCSI 4x CD-ROM Drive -Matrox MGA Millenium 4MB Any precautions when installing NS 3.3? (it'll arrive tomorrow) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!news.gtn.com!news.technet.net!not-for-mail From: fh@energotec.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Singleusermode booten bei Motorola HW Date: 22 May 1997 09:57:52 GMT Organization: Technet GmbH Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5m15b0$b8d$4@oxygen.technet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pinkfloyd.energotec.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) hi, kann mir einer sagen, wie ich bei schwarzer Motorola Hardware im Singleuser Mode booten kann ?? so long #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de!news From: Bastian Schlueter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 23 May 1997 19:46:54 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5m4s7e$23c@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de Organisation: RRR X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:25956 comp.sys.next.advocacy:69371 comp.sys.next.hardware:28989 "Robert A. Decker" wrote: > > I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (the one we got at WWDC) on Dell > Optiplex GX Pro that doesn't have SCSI. [...] > By saying they don't work, here's what I mean: We get to the point where > it recognizes the harddrive and that there's an ATAPI device. It then gets > to the point of recognizing the correct CD-ROM. The line is: > NEC CD-ROM Drive:282 3.07 [...] > Should this be working correctly? Anyone know what's going on? Hi Robert, i had exactly the same problem with the same drive. It doesn't even work after installing from a different CD-drive. I think it's because the NEC is ATAPI 2.5 and NeXT supports only ATAPI 2.1. So get a different drive. ciao Bastian -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!linteuto.teuto.de!grape From: grape@matrix.teuto.de (Timo Hoepfner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Drivers for 3COM EtherLink XL PCI under OpenStep 4.x for Intel Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 13:35:18 +0200 Organization: PoP teuto.net Bielefeld Lines: 18 Message-ID: <19970524133518278301@[192.168.0.2]> References: <5m5r35$cgq$1@news2.apple.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.77.62.40 X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2 Hello Scott! > > whole boatload of 3COM EtherLink XL PCI cards to run as our ethernet > These drivers are not yet available from Apple (though they should be > soon). Keep your eye on Apple Intel Beta Drivers web-page: > > http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/NABrowse?/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_Inf > ormation/Drivers/4.x_Drivers/Beta Any chance, that there will be a driver for the Etherlink III PCI (only 10Mbps) Combo card for NEXTSTEP 3.3 as well??? Would it be possible to use the Openstep 4.x driver with NEXTSTEP 3.3? Bye Timo --- Timo Hoepfner - grape@matrix.teuto.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 24 May 1997 13:08:03 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 51 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de While I heard of people installing NS3.3 (or OPENSTEP for that matter) along with one of those crappy Micro$oft systems, I'm not aware of installations like the following, which was unfortunately necessary for us to do: 2 SCSI hard disks set up as follows: SCSI ID 0 w/three partitions: 16 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3 miniroot) 500 MB NTFS partition (for Windows NT 4.0) 500 MB Pri DOS partition (for Windows 95) SCSI ID 1 w/two partitions: 1000 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3) 1000 MB Ext DOS partition (for HD recording of audio data) Goal is all to make three OSes selectable at boot time, which is tricky because the NEXTSTEP system does (and could:-( )not reside on the first disk. NA #1487 guides you through this special adventure: install NS3.3 on the "outer disk" (at install time this was the first by plugging out the cable from the inner disk); afterwards change /etc/fstab to boot up from /dev/sd1a instead of /dev/sd0a and then install the miniroot partition on the primary disk. It contains the current driver configuration (System.config) and the information from where to boot the kernel. At startup, the usual NEXT dual boot turns up, where you can decide to boot up NEXTSTEP (from the second disk) or to boot DOS. In the latter case, the NT boot loader comes up and you may decide between NT and Win95. It's probably wise to install Win95 first and then NT (so did I) and at last to install the NEXTSTEP miniroot. And, yes, it won't be possible by using Micro$oft's fabulous fdisk which allows max. two partitions (BTW: read the BUGS section of the NEXTSTEP man page for fdisk ;-). If this seems the natural way to do for people I apologize for posting this, but OTOH I couldn't locate any advice for settings like these and maybe others are interested (or are forced) in setting up weird configurations such as the one above. Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!204.245.231.88!cyberspam!not-for-mail Subject: cmsg cancel <5ltift$ghs$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> no reply ignore From: spamcancel@stopspam.org Control: cancel <5ltift$ghs$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business.misc,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.invest.penny-stocks,misc.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,control Reply-To: /dev/nul@[127.0.0.1] Sender: tsnSSSmith@csd.net Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 08:15:53 -0700 Organization: Stop Spam! Approved: spamcancel@stopspam.org X-Canceled-By: spamcancel@stopspam.org X-Original-From: tsnSSSmith@csd.net X-Original-Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE#$#$#$###### X-Original-Date: Wed, 21 May 97 01:21:36 GMT X-No-Archive: Yes Lines: 2 Ignore Excessive Cross Posted/Excessive Multi-Posted article canceled by Ken Lucke #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SECOND HD ON NEXTSTEP3.3 Date: 24 May 1997 16:28:27 GMT Lines: 6 Message-ID: <19970524162800.MAA02631@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5lucn7$9vf$1@news.univ-rennes1.fr> do a low level format of your scsi drive before you reload it UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ott.istar!news.istar.net!news.the-wire.com!not-for-mail From: ptwareck@the-wire.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matsushita PD/CD drives with NS/OS ? Date: 24 May 1997 17:16:06 GMT Organization: -the-Wire- in Toronto, Canada Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5m77om$j6r$1@news.the-wire.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: opus.the-wire.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Has anyone successfully used the Matsushita Phasewrite drive flavour on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? NeXTAnswers offers a disktab entry which is incorrect (somewhat), NeXT is useless in helping me out and Matsushita/Panasonic/Toray can't figure out what's wrong either. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -- Piotr Twarecki (NeXTMail and MIME welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: 23 May 1997 22:26:37 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5m5u6d$7qo@slip.net> References: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Visit http://www.ipc.de and look for their product which lets you use UMAX scanners with NS/OS. That might help. e- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How's this hardware setup for NX 3.3? Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 13:39:21 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <01bc67c9$7a459840$e0686180@test.ocga.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: Tony Chow In-Reply-To: <01bc67c9$7a459840$e0686180@test.ocga.ucla.edu> On 23 May 1997, Tony Chow wrote: > I have > > -IBM 6x86L PR-166 CPU Replace this with an Intel Pentium. The 6x86's have known problems under NEXTSTEP (crashing, mainly. OmniWeb will bring a 6x86 to it's knees every time). Everything else looks fine. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uniserve!oronet!i492.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 24 May 1997 20:02:38 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: i492.oro.net I finally just received the notice that the @Society Magazine Newsletter link has finally made it to the Yahoo! directory and should be useable in a week or so. Therefore, you will see much less on these newsgroups in terms of my messages. I was unaware that posting messages in each group was wrong. Therefore, from this date on, I will only post in the appropriate areas. The @Society WWW pages had just started about 3 to 4 weeks ago and I wanted to make sure folks here knew about it until my directory links went into effect. I had watched other companies selling NeXT product posting daily in multiple groups so I thought that was not a problem here as I did not see any posts saying halt up. Anyway, thank you for bearing with the numerous posts... TJ @Society Magazine #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!news.alt.net!newspost1.alt.net!mark From: mark@127.0.0.1 (Mark Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Support for the ScanMaker E3 scanner on NEXTSTEP? Date: 24 May 1997 20:29:52 GMT Organization: Center for Space Research Lines: 20 Message-ID: X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 UNIX) As I glanced though a local computer store advertisement, I noticed that MicroTek is selling an affordable flatbed scanner. It's the ScanMaker E3 and it has the following features: - single pass scanning - 24-bit color - 8-bit greyscale - 300x600 dpi optical resolution - 2400x2400dpi software resolution - retail price of $199 I've checked the NEXTSTEP archives and found ScanMaker.app (version 0.2) and was curious to know if anybody has the above configuration or might know if the current version of ScanMaker.app (or some other alternative software) has sufficient support for the E3 scanner. -- # mark miller #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uniserve!oronet!i492.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 24 May 1997 20:28:33 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: i492.oro.net I also hope you see that we are trying to do a GOOD thing here. As you probably already know, starting a small venture like this is difficult and if along the way we do something different or wrong, it would be much nicer for you to say "it is OK that you post messages but please do it less often" or something like that rather than you do not think the product will fly becuase they post so much. That is why I though the comment was "interesting" becuase I would have put your message differently. I can understand now why I should not post in all the groups but as I mentioned, I saw many companies already doing this and I did not think it was wrong. We at @Society are very enthusiastic about our product and hope to fill a void of NeXT reading material. We see a bright future for all NeXT users and want to have FUN!!. Thank you for understanding, TJ @Society Magazine In article , tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > I finally just received the notice that the @Society Magazine Newsletter > link has finally made it to the Yahoo! directory and should be useable in > a week or so. > > Therefore, you will see much less on these newsgroups in terms of my > messages. I was unaware that posting messages in each group was wrong. > Therefore, from this date on, I will only post in the appropriate areas. > > The @Society WWW pages had just started about 3 to 4 weeks ago and I > wanted to make sure folks here knew about it until my directory links went > into effect. I had watched other companies selling NeXT product posting > daily in multiple groups so I thought that was not a problem here as I did > not see any posts saying halt up. > > Anyway, thank you for bearing with the numerous posts... > > TJ > @Society Magazine #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!newshost.uwo.ca!usenet From: Antonios Kranidis Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MEMORY Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 19:38:51 -0400 Organization: University of Western Ontario, London Lines: 4 Message-ID: <33877C0B.41C6@bille.ppc.engga.uwo.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppc25.ppc.engga.uwo.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; AIX 1) When I am using the internet I guess every keeps on being saved and after a little while my computer is out of memory. I have 32 megs of ram and over 2 gigs of hard drive. What can be done to fix this?? Please answer to akranidi@mustang.uwo.ca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cube faceplate Optical "plug" Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 17:31:14 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) My cube came with a "plug" in one the optical drive openings. I recently = had the faceplate milled to support both a floppy and an internal CD driv= e, but when the faceplate came back they didn't return the "plug". I'd r= eally like to get one of these again to fill the hole since I spent money tomake it look good--I'd like to fin= ish the job! -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ca.forsale,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems,la.forsale Subject: Re: FS: NeXTStation Turbo Color 400HD, 16MB $1000+s/h Date: 24 May 1997 17:50:59 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5m79q3$1khk@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f183-093.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17714 ca.forsale:29979 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:74446 comp.sys.mac.system:218792 comp.sys.next.hardware:29001 misc.forsale.computers:13147 misc.forsale.computers.workstation:46486 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems:49913 >It's not ADB, but I believe it has the ROMs which would allow >it to be used with an ADB keyboard and mouse. If you know the ROM >version >necessary, let me know and I'll check. You would still need the ADB >sound >box. ADB requires EPROM version 74, an ADB y-cable, an ADB compatible monitor (72Hz vs 68Hz) and ADB soundbox. Its all in FAQ question 5.26. - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!ott.istar!n4tor.istar!news.istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <16065863928021@digifix.com> Date: 25 May 1997 03:57:50 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <12797864532834@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:69454 comp.sys.next.announce:4215 comp.sys.next.hardware:29002 comp.sys.next.software:29670 comp.sys.next.misc:25966 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26815 comp.sys.next.bugs:4329 comp.sys.next.programmer:24549 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.183.217.2!dns.ianet.net!news From: "Mark Kushigian" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-Recordable (esp HP4020) Date: 25 May 1997 04:31:57 GMT Organization: Normac, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bc68c3$ba6f9ec0$de01000a@erzerum> NNTP-Posting-Host: cygnusx1.normac.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 OpenStep doesn't seem to be able to use my HP 4020i CD-Recordable drive, although a Toshiba 3401 works fine. Anybody know any reason I shouldn't be able to use this drive (as a CD-ROM only)? Anybody successfully using ANY CD-Recordable as a CD-ROM on a Next/OpenStep system? Thanks... Mark Kushigian mkush@normac.com PS- please post as well as email responses. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!news.mhpcc.edu!not-for-mail From: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Faded streaks on NeXT Laser Printer Date: 25 May 1997 09:23:40 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.0.2 Beta(i) I got one of the refurbished NeXT LaserPrinters from the PrinterWorks. It seems to work great except for one thing. After a while, it gets a faded streak where the printing is very light on about 1/5 of the width of the paper. If I take the toner cartridge out and shake it and put it back, then the printing is fine again...for a while, and the problem recurs, fixable the same way. It has a new HP 92295A toner cartridge. What I need to know is, is this problem due to something wrong on the printer (e.g. the fuser), or the toner cartridge, or what? One thing I can figure out is where the long felt pad bar goes in the printer. I seem to recall from having worked with an original NeXT LaserPrinter is that it went somewhere along the paper path; I can't find a place for it in the refurbished printer. Any clues will be greatly appreciated. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenberATmhpcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!btnet!btnet-feed3!unlisys!cs.tu-berlin.de!marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de!news From: Bastian Schlueter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 24 May 1997 16:01:11 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Message-ID: <5m73c7$ip@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de Organisation: RRR X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Lines: 35 Hello Frank, wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: [...] > 2 SCSI hard disks set up as follows: > > SCSI ID 0 w/three partitions: > 16 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3 miniroot) > 500 MB NTFS partition (for Windows NT 4.0) > 500 MB Pri DOS partition (for Windows 95) > > SCSI ID 1 w/two partitions: > 1000 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3) > 1000 MB Ext DOS partition (for HD recording of audio data) > [...] > At startup, the usual NEXT dual boot turns up, where you can decide > to boot up NEXTSTEP (from the second disk) or to boot DOS. In the > latter case, the NT boot loader comes up and you may decide between > NT and Win95. -- You can make it even more comfortable and add NEXTSTEP to the WindowsNT boot loader and remove the NEXTETEP booter. There is a little utillity on the net (bootpa20.zip) wich allows to to that. ciao Bastian -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.227.0.16!news.gate.net!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cable T.V & EQUIPMENT Date: 25 May 1997 11:14:14 GMT Organization: land of jesus Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5m96u6$1m70$9265@news.gate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dfbfl3-37.gate.net you need cable T.V call us. we can help you wite CONVERTERS & EQUIPMENT. 30 - days MONEY BACK** 1 YEAR WARRANTY. e-mail me to: lavy@gate.net #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5m96u6$1m70$9265@news.gate.net> From: Control: cancel <5m96u6$1m70$9265@news.gate.net> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 14:49:05 GMT Message-ID: X-Cancelled-By: fifi@toby.han.de Sender: Approved: fifi@toby.han.de Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.rz.uni-hildesheim.de!baghira.han.de!spewcancel!cyberspam!noone Lines: 2 Message <5m96u6$1m70$9265@news.gate.net> was cancelled by fifi@toby.han.de. Reason: Spam #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: peter marinac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turning off b/w-NeXTStation's monitor? Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 22:33:09 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Lines: 70 Message-ID: <3387CF15.FA465937@eline.com> References: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Reply-To: peter@eline.com NNTP-Posting-Host: eb-pm2-3-67.dialup.slip.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4CFC1621E0EADC9A4F0A3ED6" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) --------------4CFC1621E0EADC9A4F0A3ED6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Georg Schwarz wrote: > Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave > > the computer running to enable remote logins? > > -- > Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de > Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 > Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ no, but most slabs will boot without a monitor just fine. search the faqs, someone has a description of how to make a switch that connects to the umbilical cord port, which will allow you to turn the machine on at will. there is a command you can execute in a telnet session to turn off the machine. solution 2 is to turn the machine on with the monitor connected and then very carefully remove the monitor cable from the umbilical port. The machine will continue to run just fine. I don't think it is possible to reattach the cable without the machine turning off so do a shutdown with the unix command. --------------4CFC1621E0EADC9A4F0A3ED6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Georg Schwarz wrote:
Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave
the computer running to enable remote logins?

--
Georg Schwarz     schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de
Institut für Theoretische Physik       +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130
Technische Universität Berlin        http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/

no, but most slabs will boot without a monitor just fine.  search the faqs, someone
has a description of how to make a switch that connects to the umbilical cord port,
which will allow you to turn the machine on at will.  there is a command you
can execute in a telnet session to turn off the machine.

solution 2 is to turn the machine on with the monitor connected and then very
carefully remove the monitor cable from the umbilical port.  The machine
will continue to run just fine. I don't think it is possible to reattach the cable
without the machine turning off so do a shutdown with the unix command.


--------------4CFC1621E0EADC9A4F0A3ED6-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!fnews.nuri.net!not-for-mail From: nextkane@nuri.net (ChangJun Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help : Station Color Turbo and 1.2G Quantum and Plextor 8x Date: 25 May 1997 16:41:03 GMT Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5m9q2v$rj8$1@news.nuri.net> Reply-To: nextkane@nowcom.co.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.239.126.149 X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.95 I purchased Color Turbo on last week but I can't build NS 3.3J with 1.2G Quantum Fireball and Plextor 8x cd-rom. CD-Rom SCSI ID : 3 HDD SCSI ID : ? Jumpers are | | | | | A2 A1 A0 TE PK I don't know How to set it. Help me, please. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!202.232.2.100!np1.iij.ad.jp!wnoc-tyo-news!spinnews!spin-pp0-osk!spinosk!threeWeb-news!news.osk.threewebnet.or.jp!news From: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (Toshinao Ishii) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matsushita PD/CD drives with NS/OS ? Date: 25 May 1997 16:52:18 GMT Organization: 3Web internet service Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5m9qo2$62v@news.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> References: <5m77om$j6r$1@news.the-wire.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: oski016.osk.threewebnet.or.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by MimeKit/1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Newsreader: RadicalNews-J (TM) 0.9.02 Beta(i) Cc: ptwareck@the-wire.com X-Forwarded: by - (DeleGate/4.0.7) Hi. In <5m77om$j6r$1@news.the-wire.com> ptwareck@the-wire.com wrote: > Has anyone successfully used the Matsushita Phasewrite drive flavour on > NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? NeXTAnswers offers a disktab entry which is incorrect > (somewhat), NeXT is useless in helping me out and Matsushita/Panasonic/Toray I am using "MATSHITA PD-1 LF-1000 A109" on NEXTSTEP 3.3J and OPENSTEP4.1J on my Intel machine. Following is the disktab I am using. (From NeXTAnswers) # PD/CD # pd-1|PD-1|MATSHITA PD-1 LF-1000 A:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1632:nt#15:ns#53:ss#1024:rm#2026:\ :fp#256:bp#256:ng#154:gs#1600:ga#16:ao#784:\ :os=mach_kernel:z0#80:z1#168:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#618510:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#8:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: I have tried only NeXT formatted disks. I've no experience with DOS nor Macintosh formatted disks. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* $B@P0f=SD>(B Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: FAQ for this newsgroup Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <19970517034900.XAA25030@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:22:01 GMT Lines: 13 In article <19970517034900.XAA25030@ladder02.news.aol.com> nexnet1996@aol.com (NEXNET1996) writes: > Can someone send me the FAQ for this newsgroup, I cannot find it > anywhere. That might be a bit too much for a simple E-mail ;-) Did you try Peanuts ? No? That's a shame! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Singleusermode booten bei Motorola HW Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5m15b0$b8d$4@oxygen.technet.net> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:36:49 GMT Lines: 18 In article <5m15b0$b8d$4@oxygen.technet.net> fh@energotec.de writes: > hi, > > kann mir einer sagen, wie ich bei schwarzer > Motorola Hardware im Singleuser Mode booten kann ?? > German newbie question in an English newsgroup? Neat thing! Press to get to the boot prompt, then type 'bsd -s'. Druecke (oder auf der Deutschen Tastatur) und dann tip 'bsd -s' und los geht's. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Stupid printer question Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:46:08 GMT Lines: 29 In article mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: > OK, I know this is stupid, but I have never seen a NeXT laserprinter > before. I just bought two of them brand new. I took one out, unpacked > it, set it up (much easier than on a Mac) and looked for the power > switch. There is no power switch. I know it works because I printed > with it. > > Question is: is there a way to turn it off or is it normally off until > it gets a signal to print? If the latter is the case, how do they get > the fuser to heat up so quickly? It takes virtually no time, click to > chunk. Like on all NeXT hardware the power is controlled by software. But unless the computers it has no self adjusting power supply (Some Europeans fried the printers they imported from the USA by not changing the line voltage). Normally the printer is in standby mode. From time to time the fuser is heated to provide this instantaneous print cabability (You can hear the periodic humm). If you want to switch it off you have to type 'nppower off' in a Terminal.app window. There are several small utilities on the net to do this automatically (Saves a considerable amount of power. Though the printer needs a warmup period aferwards). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!feed1.news.erols.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <33870477.1@ispc-news.cableinet.net> Date: 25 May 1997 17:30:56 GMT Control: cancel <33870477.1@ispc-news.cableinet.net> Message-ID: Sender: Cutting Edge Computers X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 17:03:02 From: Cutting Edge Computers Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: We have another WINNER NNTP-Posting-Host: nn-pool-242.wildnet.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: nn-pool-242.wildnet.co.uk Message-ID: <33871034.0@ispc-news.cableinet.net> Organization: "Cable Internet (post doesn't reflect views of Cable Internet)" Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!azure.xara.net!xara.net!news.cableinet.co.uk!ispc-news.cableinet.net!nn-pool-242.wildnet.co.uk Lines: 5 pippa@uunet.pipex.com has won the FREE Apocalypse 3D Accelarater. Check out our web site for the new competition www.cutting-edge.co.uk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help : Color Turbo with 1.2G Quantum... Date: 25 May 1997 19:20:05 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <19970525192001.PAA08354@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5m9qgk$rm9$1@news.nuri.net> HDD SCSI ID : ? Jumpers are | | | | | A2 A1 A0 TE PK I don't know How to set it. Help me, please. scsi id 0= all pins out a2 a1 a0 fro all others go to www.seagate.com or plextor.com UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:29:49 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: po6.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29015 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26823 Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 23-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net > > I just purchased a Seagate Cheeta 4.5Gb Wide SCSI drive and I > > would like to install it as my boot drive. I'd like to partition > > it something like this > > sd0a partition 2Gb sd1a partition .5Gb > > (for swap space) 2GB dos partition > > This is NOT wise. If you make another partition the swap drive, > it will THRASH the drive. i.e. as you read some files in partition > a, and a pge swap occurs in partition b, the head of the drive will > have to leave partition a, travel to partition b, then go back to > partition a. You will get a net performance decrease. If you want > to gain performance, you need a seperate drive for swapping, not > a seperate partition. John, I know you've convinced yourself that partitioning a drive for swapspace decreases performance, but that doesn't actually make it true. There's an entire chapter in the O'Reilly "Unix System Performance Tuning" (may not be the exact title, but close) book on how to partition drives correctly. You'd find it good reading.... In general, you want to have where the swap area is located to be near the middle of the drive cylinders, and you want to have actively-used files/partitions on either side of the swap area. Such an arrangement results in higher performance compared to not partitioning the drive, both from experimental testing, and from a theoretical standpoint (compare full-disk seek times to half-stroke seek times, and consider the impact of IO request scheduling algorithms like elevator seeking). Given a 4.5 MB drive and what the original poster wants to do, I'd probably partition the drive as follows: sd0a -- 400 MB to 750 MB (for the operating system, depending on whether Developer is going to be installed) sd0b -- 250 MB (swap partition) sd0c -- 1.x GB, for NEXTSTEP user space (and /LocalApps, etc) sd0d -- 2 GB for DOS I'd create a ~240 MB swapfile in sd0b using mkfile which would be the primary swapfile (set the low and hi water marks appropriately), and I'd create a secondary swapfile 0 bytes in size on sd0a in case the primary ever fills up. Also, you can blow away sd0a and re-mkfs it when upgrading to a new version of the system, which is convenient. Some of the other advantages of having a seperate swap partition is that you can newfs/mkfs the filesystem more appropriately for what you're doing (reduce the number of inodes and cylinder groups). Also, such a swap partition is not going to have the swap file as fragmented as it would be if it were created on a partition which held lots of other files (say on the main root partition holding the system). The reason for that is because the FFS wants to store files in empty cylinder groups before completely filling up all of the blocks in partially-used cylinder groups (this relates to MINFREE, the 10% or so disk space reserved to help avoid fragmentation)-- since leaving some empty space allows files to grow in size without having to fragment themselves (or not too badly, anyway). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 25 May 1997 20:55:46 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29016 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26824 Charles William Swiger wrote: > John, I know you've convinced yourself that partitioning a drive > for swapspace decreases performance, but that doesn't actually > make it true. > There's an entire chapter in the O'Reilly "Unix System Performance > Tuning" (may not be the exact title, but close) book on how to > partition drives correctly. You'd find it good reading.... So the way I unders stand it: 1) The partitions are physically seperated. e.g. partition a would be the inner portion (wheel) of the drive, and partition b would be the outer. If the swap is in the outer portion, and the regular system is in the inner, a demand to swap while reading info on the outer would force the head way out to the outer. 2) The partitions are striped "interlaced" so that a seek would not not be necessarily further from any system file to the swap portion. However, that "interlacing" makes the swap file non contiguous physically and thereby reduces performance. Even in your example of putting the swap in the middle... Look at would "could happen" in case 1. If it's a large drive, say only 600megs of the first 2gig partition is used, and 1.5Gb of the third. Then if there's a swap request, and the head is in the first partition, it might have to travel over a good bit of space to get to the middle, and the same if from the 3rd. Whereas if it was one partition, then it's equally likely it would be closer, at least mathematically, than with the partitions. I.E. it would only be dealing with traversing 2.1Gb of data instead of 4Gb (assuming a 4Gb drive). In the second case, if the partitions are NOT physically seperate and are "interlaced" then the swap file is NOT contiguous and that is reducing performance. It's an either or situation (as far as I can tell). If I got it wrong, could you please let me know where the performance boost lies? What are the other alternatives that make partitioning for swap space and system access just as fast as having a single unpartitioned drive (obviously a seperate drive will always be better than either of the former possibilities). -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!camelot.ccs.neu.edu!news.dfci.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!purdue!news.bu.edu!acs4.bu.edu!charris From: charris@bu.edu (Catherine Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ROM commands? Date: 25 May 1997 20:30:52 GMT Organization: Boston University Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5ma7hs$hqn@news.bu.edu> References: <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: acs4.bu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] : > Is there documentation on what commands are available to you while your : > are in ROM on a turbo color slab? I have picked up a few, but would : > like to have more information. The article "Power On" by Wayde Schroder is very helpful about theRoom monitor. See NextAnswers #1085. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!nick.arc.nasa.gov!purdue!news.bu.edu!acs4.bu.edu!charris From: charris@bu.edu (Catherine Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Odd power on/off problem Date: 25 May 1997 20:44:44 GMT Organization: Boston University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5ma8bt$hqn@news.bu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: acs4.bu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] After 5 years of flawless service, my NextStation (running 3.0) came down with this problem: The PowerOn key dumps me in the Rom monitor. From there, I can boot just by typing bsd. The boot is fine, nothing appears damaged and I can work as normal. But the PowerOn key can not be used to shut this machine off. I have to unplug it. Interestingly, within 30 sec of sticking the machine's power plug into an outlet, it pops on, and sticks me in Rom (without me every hitting the power on key). Hitting the power key gives the usual really power off sign. As normal, the screen goes gray, the finally it appears to power off screen goes black, everything goes silent) -- and then the computer starts up, I get a testing message, then I'm dumped in the Rom monitor. (From which point I can bsd and go about my work.) Thoughts, advice welcome... -Cathy =========== Catherine Harris, Assistant Professor, Department of Psychology, Boston University, 64 Cummington St., Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-2956 http://web.bu.edu/PSYCH/faculty/charris/ charris@bu.edu fax: 353-6933 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!chi-news.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Date: 25 May 1997 22:53:15 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: This is a difficulty with the Intel hardware, and I guess drivers as well. There are video cards which are designed to support more than one monitor--one product name was "Quadzilla" as I recall--but one would have to find one with an OPENSTEP driver... Why not get a Cube and a couple of NeXTDimension boards? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!194.121.224.3!cyberspam!usenet From: Cutting Edge Computers Organization: "Cable Internet (post doesn't reflect views of Cable Internet)" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <33871034.0@ispc-news.cableinet.net> Message-ID: Control: cancel <33871034.0@ispc-news.cableinet.net> Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de References: <33871034.0@ispc-news.cableinet.net> Lines: 3 Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:46:54 +0100 X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. The Breidbart index was 978.000. See report "www.cutting-edge.co.uk" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: We have another WINNER. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD-Recordable (esp HP4020) Date: 26 May 1997 00:36:01 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5malth$26r@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <01bc68c3$ba6f9ec0$de01000a@erzerum> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: p06.cisco1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.0.2 Beta(i) Cc: mkush@normac.com In <01bc68c3$ba6f9ec0$de01000a@erzerum> "Mark Kushigian" wrote: > OpenStep doesn't seem to be able to use my HP 4020i CD-Recordable drive, > although a Toshiba 3401 works fine. Anybody know any reason I shouldn't > be able to use this drive (as a CD-ROM only)? Anybody successfully > using ANY CD-Recordable as a CD-ROM on a Next/OpenStep system? > > Thanks... > > Mark Kushigian > mkush@normac.com > > PS- please post as well as email responses. > talk to these people. They have software for CD-R called CDDesigner. from private e-mail dated 14 MAR 97, "we have tested the CDDesigner with SCSI-controllers by Adaptec and NCR, but it should run with any controller. Only some combinations of controllers and cd-writers do not work (e.g.) Adaptec/Yamaha." Carsten Gehle (GehleSoftware@t-online.de) GSCorp also has software for CD-R called ExtraCD. Don't have their URL handy... -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!fnews.nuri.net!not-for-mail From: nextkane@nuri.net (ChangJun Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help : Color Turbo with 1.2G Quantum... Date: 25 May 1997 16:48:20 GMT Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5m9qgk$rm9$1@news.nuri.net> Reply-To: nextkane@nowcom.co.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.239.126.149 X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.95 I purchased Color Turbo on last week but I can't build NS 3.3J with 1.2G Quantum Fireball and Plextor 8x cd-rom. CD-Rom SCSI ID : 3 HDD SCSI ID : ? Jumpers are | | | | | A2 A1 A0 TE PK I don't know How to set it. Help me, please. Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Date: 26 May 1997 02:52:03 GMT Organization: cdb graphics Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: cdb@precipice.com (christopher borden) NNTP-Posting-Host: p15.cisco1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > This is a difficulty with the Intel hardware, and I guess drivers as well. > > There are video cards which are designed to support more than one > monitor--one product name was "Quadzilla" as I recall--but one would have > to find one with an OPENSTEP driver... > > Why not get a Cube and a couple of NeXTDimension boards? > > William > > > William Adams > > {{\xurl http://members.aol.com/willadams > }<} > http://members.aol.com/willadams > Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. > i think bifrost workstations offers a video card which will drive multiple monitors. www.bifrostworks.com/ chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!sdn-ts-007casjosp03.dialsprint.net!user From: steve_sullivan@hotmail.com (steve) Newsgroups: alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.modems,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.storage Subject: Re: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE%%%%%%%%@! Date: 26 May 1997 05:02:19 GMT Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-007casjosp03.dialsprint.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.online-service.america-online:21485 alt.online-service.compuserve:19508 alt.online-service.freenet:2982 alt.online-service.genie:7751 alt.online-service.microsoft:6864 alt.online-service.prodigy:36738 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:74513 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:29173 comp.sys.mac.portables:88631 comp.sys.misc:5867 comp.sys.next.hardware:29023 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17730 comp.sys.next.misc:25979 misc.entrepreneurs:280879 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11791 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc:14266 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video:10780 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc:53106 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables:30753 misc.forsale.computers.memory:71449 misc.forsale.computers.modems:35511 misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware:28012 misc.forsale.computers.other.misc:57227 misc.forsale.computers.other.software:26704 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc:25060 misc.forsale.computers.storage:65461 In article <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net>, tsnSSSmith@csd.net wrote: > Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! > > Its finally here Its been here for a while, ever here of richochet??? > http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow > > We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!! You need to take the lies off your web page saying you are the first to have wireless internet access!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!sverige.pengar.com!user From: chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "No disk can be used to install OpenStep" Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:23:44 -0600 Organization: Pengar Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 51 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sverige.pengar.com HI All I am trying to install OpenStep Mach 4.1 (not the WWDC stuff) on a machine that has an IDE/ATAPI CDROM and an Adaptec 2940AU with Quantum Fireball ST 3 gig drive (the new 5400 rpm Fireball). (I previously installed OpenStep on a machine that had an IDE disk and CDROM ok) In the system BIOS all the IDE drives are marked "none" The SCSI disk is set to ID6 and on the Adaptec ID 6 is set to bootable and the Host Bios is turned on. At system boot time before any disks boot the Adaptec boots and "loads" the Quantum as drive C: The system bios says to boot: C,A,SCSI (have tried A,C,SCSI and SCSI,A,C as well) During installation: I tell it I have an EIDE/ATAPI device for the CDROM. I tell it I have an Adaptec 2940 for the hard drive. I tell it to continue: It starts the unix boot and it finds the CDROM. It finds the hard disk and correctly identifies it. It mounts the CDROM as the root readonly and then it continues. Then it says " The startup disk for this computer is: OPENSTEP cannot be installed on any hard disks on this computer. You need a 512 byte/sector hard disk with at least 120MB free to install OPENSTEP. Shutting down (Messages are paraphrased) " . What do I do? I have a hard disk that the system has found and correctly identified. The system bios has this disk as the system startup disk. OPENSTEP is confused? Thanks Chad #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Date: 26 May 1997 08:12:58 GMT Organization: WolfWare Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5mbgma$ie7$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cwolf.vip.best.com In-Reply-To: <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00127-01 On 05/25/97, christopher borden wrote: >In <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: >> This is a difficulty with the Intel hardware, and I guess drivers as well. >> >> There are video cards which are designed to support more than one >> monitor--one product name was "Quadzilla" as I recall--but one would have >> to find one with an OPENSTEP driver... >> >> Why not get a Cube and a couple of NeXTDimension boards? >> >> William >> >> >> William Adams >> >> {{\xurl http://members.aol.com/willadams >> }<} >> http://members.aol.com/willadams >> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. >> > > >i think bifrost workstations offers a video card which will drive multiple >monitors. > >www.bifrostworks.com/ > >chris If you want a multi-headed display on Intel hardware I'd recommend using a pair of Matrox Millienium card. The Matrox cards are readily available, fairly inexpensive, screamingly good performers and have NeXTSTEP drivers which support multi-headed displays. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 26 May 1997 09:32:38 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 51 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de While I heard of people installing NS3.3 (or OPENSTEP for that matter) along with one of those crappy Micro$oft systems, I'm not aware of installations like the following, which was unfortunately necessary for us to do: 2 SCSI hard disks set up as follows: SCSI ID 0 w/three partitions: 16 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3 miniroot) 500 MB NTFS partition (for Windows NT 4.0) 500 MB Pri DOS partition (for Windows 95) SCSI ID 1 w/two partitions: 1000 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3) 1000 MB Ext DOS partition (for HD recording of audio data) Goal is all to make three OSes selectable at boot time, which is tricky because the NEXTSTEP system does (and could:-( )not reside on the first disk. NA #1487 guides you through this special adventure: install NS3.3 on the "outer disk" (at install time this was the first by plugging out the cable from the inner disk); afterwards change /etc/fstab to boot up from /dev/sd1a instead of /dev/sd0a and then install the miniroot partition on the primary disk. It contains the current driver configuration (System.config) and the information from where to boot the kernel. At startup, the usual NEXT dual boot turns up, where you can decide to boot up NEXTSTEP (from the second disk) or to boot DOS. In the latter case, the NT boot loader comes up and you may decide between NT and Win95. It's probably wise to install Win95 first and then NT (so did I) and at last to install the NEXTSTEP miniroot. And, yes, it won't be possible by using Micro$oft's fabulous fdisk which allows max. two partitions (BTW: read the BUGS section of the NEXTSTEP man page for fdisk ;-). If this seems the natural way to do for people I apologize for posting this, but OTOH I couldn't locate any advice for settings like these and maybe others are interested (or are forced) in setting up weird configurations such as the one above. Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de #################################################################### From: cmoore@cyberport.com (cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Horizontal scan rate of NeXT monitors ??? Date: 22 May 1997 20:01:38 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5m28n2$qhr$1@macaw.cyberport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm188-75.cyberport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.erie.net!news.chatlink.com!news.cyberport.com!not-for-mail Does anyone know this? i know the vertical refresh rate is 68hz. and the res is 1152 X 856 what is the khz of the horiz. ? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help : Station Color Turbo and 1.2G Quantum and Plextor 8x Date: 26 May 1997 14:06:51 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5mc5dr$5qk$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5m9q2v$rj8$1@news.nuri.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] ChangJun Kim (nextkane@nuri.net) wrote: > I purchased Color Turbo on last week but I can't build NS 3.3J with > 1.2G Quantum Fireball and Plextor 8x cd-rom. > CD-Rom SCSI ID : 3 > HDD SCSI ID : ? Jumpers are > | | | | | > A2 A1 A0 TE PK I recommend setting the internal SCSI id to 1. This leaves all other ids above 1 free, but you can still do an "emergency" type boot off an external device by setting its SCSI to 0. In order tu jumper your disk to SCSI 1, put a jumper on A0, and no jumpers on A1 and A2. The TE jumper is "Enable Termination" if memory serves me right, don't know about PK. An internal drive should be terminated (it's only one drive since the station can only host one SCSI drive. Yeah, I know, you can remove the floppy..). Set the CDROM to SCSI 0 to install, after installation, I recommend using SCSI id 6, as this is a common practice. BTW, Quantum document their jumper settings on www.quantum.com. You might want to use their search facility to find your disk type. Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!not-for-mail From: Maurice van Steensel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Message from "caesar@cyberdude.com" concerning ND Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:09:33 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen dept of Human Genetics Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3389FC0D.393D@antrg.azn.nl> Reply-To: m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: tr2f-069.azn.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Please disregard this address; it should be m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl Someone messed with my preferences folder, sorry about that! Maurice the ROM monitor says it sees the board (4 M DRAM by the way). Then everything hangs and booting stops. Anyone know what causes this and how to solve it? Thanks Maurice #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!not-for-mail From: Maurice van Steensel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextDimension trouble Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:52:58 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen dept of Human Genetics Lines: 12 Message-ID: <338A063A.6A3@antrg.azn.nl> Reply-To: m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: tr2f-069.azn.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Sorry about the fuss. I had a question about ND board problems. I have a 040 Cube with a ND board (4 Meg DRAM). When I attach my 21"MeagPixel display everything works fine up to the point where ther ROM monitor reports seeing the board. Then booting stops completely and I have to unplug. Anyone knows the source of this problem? Should I disconnect the 17" B/W monitor from the motherboard? Thanks Maurice #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: On black ... Put a 33mhz chip into a 68040/25mhz board ? Date: 26 May 1997 09:48:02 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5mces2$rrl@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Is it possible to upgrade a 040/25 machine to 040/33 by replacing the 25mhz chip? Is it possible if the chip and something else are upgraded as well? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 13:36:19 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 98 Message-ID: References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29033 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26837 Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net > So the way I unders stand it: > > 1) The partitions are physically seperated. e.g. partition a would > be the inner portion (wheel) of the drive, and partition b would > be the outer. If the swap is in the outer portion, and the regular > system is in the inner, a demand to swap while reading info on the > outer would force the head way out to the outer. But read what I said again-- you want to have the swap partition in the middle of the drive surrounded by active partitions. Ie, a being the system (or system mini-root), b being the swap, and c being either user space or the rest of the system. Case 1 is the most common arrangement with normal drives. > 2) The partitions are striped "interlaced" so that a seek would > not not be necessarily further from any system file to the swap > portion. However, that "interlacing" makes the swap file non > contiguous physically and thereby reduces performance. Right. Such a case might happen on an IDE drive due to the bizzare way sectors have to be remapped by lying about the real drive geometry due to BIOS limitations. > Even in your example of putting the swap in the middle... Look at > would "could happen" in case 1. If it's a large drive, say only > 600megs of the first 2gig partition is used, and 1.5Gb of the third. > Then if there's a swap request, and the head is in the first > partition, it might have to travel over a good bit of space to get > to the middle, and the same if from the 3rd. Whereas if it was > one partition, then it's equally likely it would be closer, at > least mathematically, than with the partitions. It doesn't work out that way in practice, John. A system under enough load to be swapping is obviously doing a fair amount of work, or is completely RAM-starved (or both). If it's doing a lot of work, it's virtually certain that the IO requests involve both files from the system and /tmp, and user files or applications. In other words, the drive heads are going to be moving accross a fiarly wide range of cylinders just for user-side IO no matter where you put the swap area. The time required to perform an IO request involves the sum of the seek time to the initial track, reading the data, plus any track-to-track motion (exaberated if the file is highly fragmented), plus overhead imposed by and within the OS. Given the arrangement of partitions I've defined above, the average distance required to reach the swap area is going to be D/4, where D is the total distance between the inner and outer cylinders. If you don't partition, the average distance to reach the swap area is going to be D/2. [ This is modulo many assumptions, but it's a reasonable model for the purpose of discussion. ] Using a dedicated partition for swapping reduces swapfile fragmentation to the best it can possibly be, which means that you also minimize the amount of track-to-track motion within the IO request due to file fragmentation. If you didn't have a seperate swap partition, the swap file is going to be more fragmented, which means more time spent moving track-to-track. > In the second case, if the partitions are NOT physically seperate > and are "interlaced" then the swap file is NOT contiguous and that > is reducing performance. It's an either or situation (as far as > I can tell). If I got it wrong, could you please let me know where > the performance boost lies? In the case of an interlaced drive, usually it's interlaced on a cylinder-by-cylinder basis. The initial seek times are going to be completely equivalent, but using a seperate swap partition is still going to reduce fragmentation within each cylinder because you've ensured that all sectors within a cylinder are going to belong to the swap area, which would not be the case if you didn't partition. Again, partitioning for the swap area can help performance. > What are the other alternatives that make partitioning for swap space and > system access just as fast as having a single unpartitioned drive > (obviously a seperate drive will always be better than either of the > former possibilities). Yes, a seperate drive is going to be better because you can do IO in parallel, and because you've got two sets of head assemblies to work with, which means that you win due to the probable locality of reference for swapfile accesses. I think I've answered the other part of your question above. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: On black ... Put a 33mhz chip into a 68040/25mhz board ? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 15:28:27 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <5mces2$rrl@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-May-97 On black ... Put a 33mhz ch.. by Emmett McLean@slip.net > Is it possible to upgrade a 040/25 machine to > 040/33 by replacing the 25mhz chip? > > Is it possible if the chip and something else > are upgraded as well? No; what you're talking about is largely possible only with Intel PC hardware. For a black NeXT, many things besides just the CPU depends on the system timing, including the memory system, probably video memory, DMA, etc, etc. You'd have to swap the entire motherboard. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!news.gte.com!wizard.pn.com!news From: aks@athens (Allan Schougaard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Date: 26 May 1997 20:26:28 GMT Organization: Pioneer Global Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5mcrlk$8ml@wizard.pn.com> References: <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5mbgma$ie7$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: athens.vnp.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.0.2 Beta(s) In <5mbgma$ie7$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> Christopher Wolf wrote: > On 05/25/97, christopher borden wrote: > >In <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > >> This is a difficulty with the Intel hardware, and I guess drivers as > well. > >> > If you want a multi-headed display on Intel hardware I'd recommend using a > pair of Matrox Millienium card. The Matrox cards are readily available, > fairly inexpensive, screamingly good performers and have NeXTSTEP drivers > which support multi-headed displays. > > - Chris ELSA WINNER 2000PRO/X is also a possibility... and they look better esp. at hi resolutions. --Allan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 26 May 1997 23:27:39 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 68 Message-ID: <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29036 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26840 Charles William Swiger wrote: > But read what I said again-- you want to have the swap partition > in the middle of the drive surrounded by active partitions. Ie, > a being the system (or system mini-root), b being the swap, and > c being either user space or the rest of the system. Well, first, this breaks down in the case of a system with two partitions (like mine :) because in that situation you WILL have the head going over some dead space to get to the swap all the time... > It doesn't work out that way in practice, John. A system under > enough load to be swapping is obviously doing a fair amount of > work, or is completely RAM-starved (or both). If it's doing a > lot of work, it's virtually certain that the IO requests involve > both files from the system and /tmp, and user files or applications. > In other words, the drive heads are going to be moving accross > a fiarly wide range of cylinders just for user-side IO no matter > where you put the swap area. Hmmm, that's true... My setup is two partitions (which might be a worst case scenario!) and typically you can almost FEEL the darn heads being moved away to get to swap... However, one point to make...if the drive is REALLY big... Let's say 9 gigs, and you have 3 partitons: a being 4gb for system, b being 1gb for swap, and c being 4gb for files/apps... Let's say you only have 1gb of data on both partitions a and c. Then the heads will have to travel over more space than had the person made a single partition with all 3gb's of data situated more tightly together...no? See what I mean... |aa-aaa-aa----------------|bbbbbbbb|cc-ccc-cc--------------| |-----------max head seek distance----------| vs. |a-c-aa-c-a-c-ac-bbbbbb-a-c-a-cc-b-b-----------------------| |---------max h.seek distance------| When there is LOTs of free space, on average the heads might travel less in the single partition situation... Especially when the system has to access BOTH system (a partition) and files/apps (c partition) info... In that case, I may have reduced my max seek distance, and thereby also reduced my avg seek, no? When the drive gets more and more full, then I think what you say is true when a lot of swapping takes place, b/c the system is guaranteed to find the swap in the middle. But note, if the system uses both system and files more often (i.e. partitions a & c), then it's still going to thrash something silly. And in practice, I think both system and user files are accessed quite often...so even if swap isn't at issue, you still take a hit with system and user files/apps. Anyway, sorry if I'm being daft and frustrating you. It's truly based on my ignorance and I'm trying hard to "get it straight." -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!xmission!sverige.pengar.com!user From: chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix/IBM P+ chips for OpenStep? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 22:22:49 -0600 Organization: Pengar Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sverige.pengar.com I have a system with an IBM P200+ up with an SiS based MB but it seems to not always behave well. But I don'w know if it is the chip or maybe a screwup in the SW I have installed. When I try and launch OmniWeb2 the machine freezes (totally). Any soft restart and the Adaptec SCSI device is missed. If I hard reset the machine then it is OK. I have Apache and WebObjects running OK it seems. OpenStep Mach 4.2 (WWDC release) with EOF 2.0 from my 4.1 disks Anyone running a Cyrix based chip with OpenStep? thanks Chad #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!xmission!sverige.pengar.com!user From: chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix/IBM P+ chips for OpenStep? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 23:50:06 -0600 Organization: Pengar Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sverige.pengar.com In article , chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh) wrote: > I have a system with an IBM P200+ up with an SiS based MB but it seems to > not always behave well. But I don'w know if it is the chip or maybe a > screwup in the SW I have installed. > > > When I try and launch OmniWeb2 the machine freezes (totally). > > Any soft restart and the Adaptec SCSI device is missed. If I hard reset > the machine then it is OK. > > > I have Apache and WebObjects running OK it seems. > > OpenStep Mach 4.2 (WWDC release) with EOF 2.0 from my 4.1 disks > > Anyone running a Cyrix based chip with OpenStep? > > thanks > Chad To reply to my own posting: It seems that the Cyrix chips WON'T run OpenStep -- at least not in my configuration. Replacing the P200+ chip with an AMD PR133 chip in the same PC with everything else the same (same MB, same boards, etc -- just swap CPUs) and the freezing up with OmniWeb2 stops and everything seems to run fine. Put the P200 back in (even running slower as a P166) and again OmniWeb2 freezes the entire machine! Put the AMD back in and things seem to be kosher. Chad #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: which Pentium-II motherboards supported by Openstep Date: 27 May 1997 06:13:48 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5mdu2s$6kb$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu Are the ASUS KN97-X and the Intel PD440FX motherboards Openstep compatible? Both are Pentium-II PCI motherboards based on the 440FX (Natoma) chipset. They seem to be the 2 common motherboards for single-CPU Pentium-II PCs running Linux, so I figure they are probably compatible with most PC Unixes. Any reason to choose one over the other? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mysolution.com!not-for-mail From: "tommy hwang" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 27 May 1997 07:23:25 GMT Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Lines: 19 Message-ID: <01bc6a6f$2527a300$0f02000a@default> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: solaris1.mysolution.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Frank Wegmann wrote in article ... > While I heard of people installing NS3.3 (or OPENSTEP for that matter) > along with one of those crappy Micro$oft systems, I'm not aware of > installations like the following, which was unfortunately necessary > for us to do: The quickest and most easily managable way is to get a product called "System Commander". I use it in my Notebook for field tech support to switch between DOS/Win16/OS2/Win95/NeXT3.3/Solaris2.5.1 and it works like a charm. -ME #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!barba.uci.kun.nl!not-for-mail From: Maurice van Steensel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT dimension again Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 11:26:58 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen dept of Human Genetics Lines: 9 Message-ID: <338B2772.2AAB@antrg.azn.nl> Reply-To: m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: tr2f-069.azn.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Hi all, Having trouble with ND board. I have a 040 Cube w/ dimensions board and a 21" MegaPixel display. With this display and the 17" monochrome attached the cube boots fine up to the point where it sees the dimesions board. It then reports 4 M of DRAM and stops booting altogether. Anyone have an idea what causes this? Thanks for all help. Maurice #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 27 May 1997 09:11:14 GMT Organization: WolfWare Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5me8fi$8ja$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <01bc6a6f$2527a300$0f02000a@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: cwolf.vip.best.com In-Reply-To: <01bc6a6f$2527a300$0f02000a@default> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00127-01 On 05/26/97, "tommy hwang" wrote: > > >Frank Wegmann >wrote in article >... >> While I heard of people installing NS3.3 (or OPENSTEP for that >matter) >> along with one of those crappy Micro$oft systems, I'm not aware >of >> installations like the following, which was unfortunately >necessary >> for us to do: > > The quickest and most easily managable way is to get a product >called "System Commander". I use it in my Notebook for field tech >support to switch between DOS/Win16/OS2/Win95/NeXT3.3/Solaris2.5.1 >and it works like a charm. > > -ME System Commander version 2.5 worked like a charm with NeXTSTEP 3.3 but munged my OpenStep/Mach boot partition beyond any hope of recovery. I know of at least one other person who experienced the same thing. System Commander is now up to version 3 (at least) and maybe that version deals with OpenStep partitions better but consider yourself warned. If you want to have your OpenStep root partition on a different disk from you other OS boot partitions there is a NeXTAnswer which addressed how to make a minimal 7 MB OpenStep boot partition on one disk which will then transfer control to the standard root partition on another different disk. I have set up a couple of systems this way and it does work although it can be a hassle to maintain since some system configuration files now need to be maintained in two places. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!info.physics.utoronto.ca!emerald.physics!liu From: liu@emerald.physics (Wei Liu) Subject: Install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on 3 GB large disk? Message-ID: Nntp-Posting-Host: emerald.physics.utoronto.ca Sender: news@info.physics.utoronto.ca (System Administrator) Organization: University of Toronto - Dept. of Physics Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 04:36:11 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 Hi, there: Anyone has such experience in installing NEXTSTEP OS 3.2 on a large SCSI disk bigger than 2GB? I know both /etc/disk and DiskBuilder have problem with that. And the CDROM installation won't help either. Following one of NEXTanswers on this issue, I was able to partition and initialize it by creating a disktab entry. Although it behaves all right as a file system, it seems it can't be booted even I moved every system file to this disk and wrote the /usr/standalone/boot into the boot sector. It just hangs ri ght after saying "root on sd0". Sometimes it even says no SCSI disk attached. Your help is greatly appreciated!! Wei #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!not-for-mail From: toth.22@osu.edu (chris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,oh.forsale,cmh.forsale Subject: NextStation Forsale $250 OBO Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:35:36 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <338af04e.935893189@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: techser-pc2.acs.ohio-state.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17747 comp.sys.next.hardware:29045 NextStation Slab with Next Grayscale display 8mb ram 68040 cpu no hdd keyboard and mouse all cables $250 OBO Chris Toth Columbus, Ohio toth.22@osu.edu of DRAM and stops > booting altogether. Anyone have an idea what causes this? Thanks > for all help. I think the Dimension needs at least 8mb of dram to boot...and at least 24 to run comfortably. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.chicago.cic.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 11:07:09 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 126 Message-ID: References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29047 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26846 Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net >> But read what I said again-- you want to have the swap partition >> in the middle of the drive surrounded by active partitions. Ie, >> a being the system (or system mini-root), b being the swap, and >> c being either user space or the rest of the system. > > Well, first, this breaks down in the case of a system with two > partitions (like mine :) because in that situation you WILL have > the head going over some dead space to get to the swap all the > time... Yes, it does. There are lots of ways of partitioning your drives which decrease performance, and only having two partitions is one of them for precisely the reasons you've described. [ ...I wanted to snip some of the following, but there's no good place to do so... ] >> It doesn't work out that way in practice, John. A system under >> enough load to be swapping is obviously doing a fair amount of >> work, or is completely RAM-starved (or both). If it's doing a >> lot of work, it's virtually certain that the IO requests involve >> both files from the system and /tmp, and user files or applications. >> In other words, the drive heads are going to be moving accross >> a fairly wide range of cylinders just for user-side IO no matter >> where you put the swap area. > > Hmmm, that's true... My setup is two partitions (which might be > a worst case scenario!) and typically you can almost FEEL the darn > heads being moved away to get to swap... However, one point to > make...if the drive is REALLY big... Let's say 9 gigs, and you > have 3 partitons: a being 4gb for system, b being 1gb for swap, > and c being 4gb for files/apps... Let's say you only have 1gb of > data on both partitions a and c. Then the heads will have to travel > over more space than had the person made a single partition with > all 3gb's of data situated more tightly together...no? > > See what I mean... > > |aa-aaa-aa----------------|bbbbbbbb|cc-ccc-cc--------------| > > |-----------max head seek distance----------| > > vs. > > |a-c-aa-c-a-c-ac-bbbbbb-a-c-a-cc-b-b-----------------------| > > |---------max h.seek distance------| Yes, you're absolutely correct that partitioning the drives in the way you describe would decrease performance. However (and this however is an essential distinction), you aren't supposed to randomly partition drives with arbitrary sizes. You're supposed to consider the actual space requirements, and size the partitions accordingly. That's why OS vendors which encourage use of and/or ship systems with pre-partitioned drives (Sun comes to mind), generally break the OS itself into a bootable miniroot that's guaranteed to fit in 16-32 MB, so you can break up your boot drive into at least three partitions (miniroot, swap, and the rest of the OS including X or whatever windowing system) which is a situation where the IO load is pretty much guaranteed to be distributed. They generally provide disk configuration utilities to aid in partition-size calculations.... > When the drive gets more and more full, then I think what you say > is true when a lot of swapping takes place, b/c the system is > guaranteed to find the swap in the middle. But note, if the system > uses both system and files more often (i.e. partitions a & c), then > it's still going to thrash something silly. TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user files, you've got X GB worth of cylinders to move the heads across no matter what you do. However, there tends to be patterns of IO requests due to the fact that you generally swap when starting up a new process or resuming an swapped out one (ie, by reading in the executable pages from disk), and that there tends to be regular IO to /tmp and to user files for storing documents and program output after the executable pages are read in. Partitioning the drive to put the swapspace in the middle improves performance unless you've badly misjudged how big the partitions should be and have too much unused space. > And in practice, I think both system and user files are accessed quite > often... That's certainly true. > so even if swap isn't at issue, you still take a hit with system and > user files/apps. Again, there ain't no free lunch. Partitioning the drive can still help even ignoring swap since you tend to have the system files filling up most of the root partition, with enough free space left for /tmp, corefiles, log files, mail spools, and so forth...which tends to be fairly self-contained, and the user space, which gets used however. Having everything be on one partition tends to cause more fragmentation, and it prevents you from doing any kind of filesystem tuning to adjust the filesystem parameters more appropriately for the intended usage of the partition. > Anyway, sorry if I'm being daft and frustrating you. It's truly > based on my ignorance and I'm trying hard to "get it straight." No need to apologize to me; I make mistakes too. And it's infinitely better to have a reasonable conversation with someone who's honestly trying to understand a topic rather than arguing with people who refuse to listen or consider other points of view (which is half of .advocacy, unfortunately). You've clearly understood that partitioning a drive badly hurts performance quite noticably, but you make a mistake by generalizing too far and claiming that partitioning a drive will always hurt performance. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 27 May 1997 16:03:29 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 70 Message-ID: <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29048 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26848 Charles William Swiger wrote: > John Kheit said: > > When the drive gets more and more full, then I think what you > > say is true when a lot of swapping takes place, b/c the system > > is guaranteed to find the swap in the middle. But note, if > > the system uses both system and files more often (i.e. partitions > > a & c), then it's still going to thrash something silly. > TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user ^^^^^^^^^^is a new one on me :) What's it mean? > files, you've got X GB worth of cylinders to move the heads across > no matter what you do. > Partitioning the drive to put the swapspace in the middle improves > performance unless you've badly misjudged how big the partitions > should be and have too much unused space. Aha! I see now...ok. So on a a 4Gb drive one might do the following... Partition a is 450Mb for OPENSTEP, partition b is swap and say 550Mb, partition c is 1.5Gb for apps, and partition d is 1.5Gb for User stuff? See, the problem is that one will have about 3+gb's left over for user/apps stuff, and we have 2gb partition limits... So what will likely happen on partition's c and d is they will have lots of free space (unless you have a LOT of user files etc... Hmmm...which partition, if any, is it OK to keep a goodly amount of space free so performance won't take a hit? > Again, there ain't no free lunch. Partitioning the drive can Ain't that the truth...seems like a real balancing act that may change w/ time as a user get's more stuff... > Having everything be on one partition tends to cause more > fragmentation, and it prevents you from doing any kind of filesystem > tuning to adjust the filesystem parameters more appropriately > for the intended usage of the partition. Yea, but doesn't FFS pretty much keep that to a minimum (I don't think I've ever had more thean 0.7% percent fragmentation, and that was on a PACKED hard drive (almost no free space) that was used for a LONG LONG LONG time). And as for swap space fragmentation and placement...one could fill the hard drive half way... then kick with another system, make a new 500mb swap file, delete the old one (make the appropriate swaptab entries with lowat, hiwat, etc) then install the rest of the user files...and in essence get the swap file unfragmented in the middle of the system... > You've clearly understood that partitioning a drive badly hurts > performance quite noticably, but you make a mistake by generalizing > too far and claiming that partitioning a drive will always hurt > performance. I can see in certain situations it doesn't have to be an all out performance looser now... I guess I'll have to try it for myself to see if it is a genuine performance winner (as soon as I figure out how to arrange partitions with free space appropriately...) Thanks much for the info! :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix/IBM P+ chips for OpenStep? Date: 27 May 1997 15:46:06 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5mevju$ft$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Chad Leigh (chad@pengar.com) wrote: > It seems that the Cyrix chips WON'T run OpenStep -- at least not in my > configuration. Replacing the P200+ chip with an AMD PR133 chip in the > same PC with everything else the same (same MB, same boards, etc -- just > swap CPUs) and the freezing up with OmniWeb2 stops and everything seems to > run fine. Put the P200 back in (even running slower as a P166) and again > OmniWeb2 freezes the entire machine! Put the AMD back in and things seem > to be kosher. This is from memory only, so beware.. I seem to remember that the Cyrix chip has a bug, which is triggered by OmniWeb 2.* (due to it's intensive use of threads). It's good to hear though that you have no problems with the AMD chip - after all, there may be at least one alternative to Intel Does anybody else have experiences with AMD chips and OS? Regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Message-ID: <338B130C.3C65@ultranet.ca> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 09:59:56 -0700 From: JOHN HILLS Reply-To: a1b01050@ultranet.ca Organization: J.Hills Radiology, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? References: <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5mbgma$ie7$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: nwm-modem-144.ultranet.ca Lines: 18 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.bctel.net!news.ultranet.ca!nwm-modem-144.ultranet.ca Christopher Wolf wrote: > > If you want a multi-headed display on Intel hardware I'd recommend using a > pair of Matrox Millienium card. The Matrox cards are readily available, > fairly inexpensive, screamingly good performers and have NeXTSTEP drivers > which support multi-headed displays. > > - Chris > I have a vague recollection of a series of news articles re problems with Matrox Millenia under 3.3 a few weeks ago. Is my memory in need of parity? What about using the ELSA WINNER? (See ELSAWINNERMultipleDisplayDriver.pkg) John Hills jhills@ultranet.ca #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXTdimension trouble Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:06:25 GMT References: <3389FAC8.2F31@antrg.azn.nl> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <3389FAC8.2F31@antrg.azn.nl>, wrote: >Hi all, > >I have a dimensions board in my 040 Cube (NS 3.0). When I attach the >monitor (21" MegaPixel) to it everything goes fine up to the point where >the ROM monitor says it sees the board (4 M DRAM by the way). Then >everything hangs and booting stops. Anyone know what causes this and how >to solve it? > I believe the minimum amount of RAM for a Dimension is 8MB. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:26:09 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 102 Message-ID: References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26850 comp.sys.next.hardware:29052 Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net >> TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user > ^^^^^^^^^^is a new one on me :) What's it mean? "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch", R.A. Heinlein. >> Partitioning the drive to put the swapspace in the middle improves >> performance unless you've badly misjudged how big the partitions >> should be and have too much unused space. > > Aha! I see now...ok. So on a a 4Gb drive one might do the > following... Partition a is 450Mb for OPENSTEP, partition b is > swap and say 550Mb, partition c is 1.5Gb for apps, and partition > d is 1.5Gb for User stuff? 400-odd is plenty for a normal User install; you want more like 600-odd for a full Developer install, and that depends on how much logging and /tmp space you want available. If you've got space to burn, 750 is probably more than enough. I'd be fairly surprised if you filled up more than 100-200 MB worth of swap space, but again, if you've got disk space to blow, you can make swap bigger. That would leave around 3 GB or so, which I'd probably break into a 2 GB partition and a 1+ GB partition; use the first for everything active, and maybe use the second for rarely used stuff like .tar.gz archives, random images (GIF, TIFF, JPEG), backups of essential system files, and whatnot. > See, the problem is that one will have about 3+gb's left over for > user/apps stuff, and we have 2gb partition limits... Right. I tend to prefer smaller drives than 4 GB myself because you can take advantage of IO in parallel between multiple drives and the difference in cost economy isn't that great, and there's the performance gain. > So what will likely happen on partition's c and d is they will have > lots of free space (unless you have a LOT of user files etc... > Hmmm...which partition, if any, is it OK to keep a > goodly amount of space free so performance won't take a hit? The last one. Your active files are going to be in the first 3 partitions (or should be, anyway). >> Again, there ain't no free lunch. Partitioning the drive can > > Ain't that the truth...seems like a real balancing act that may > change w/ time as a user get's more stuff... Yes, or when the intended usage of the machine changes. Of course, if you've got a decent backup mechanism, it's no big deal, but it still takes time to reformat and reinstall. >> Having everything be on one partition tends to cause more >> fragmentation, and it prevents you from doing any kind of filesystem >> tuning to adjust the filesystem parameters more appropriately >> for the intended usage of the partition. > > Yea, but doesn't FFS pretty much keep that to a minimum (I don't > think I've ever had more thean 0.7% percent fragmentation, and that > was on a PACKED hard drive (almost no free space) that was used > for a LONG LONG LONG time). The FFS tries to reduce fragmentation by using cylinder groups and restricting the max number of blocks a file can use in a cylinder group (and gby keeping MINFREE reserved). In some sense, the FFS deliberately fragments very large files into medium-sized but contiguous pieces in order to avoid extreme fragmentation. I mentioned this in more detail earlier. > And as for swap space fragmentation > and placement...one could fill the hard drive half way... then > kick with another system, make a new 500mb swap file, delete the > old one (make the appropriate swaptab entries with lowat, hiwat, > etc) then install the rest of the user files...and in essence get > the swap file unfragmented in the middle of the system... If I've followed you, yes, that's precisely what you want to do. >> You've clearly understood that partitioning a drive badly hurts >> performance quite noticably, but you make a mistake by generalizing >> too far and claiming that partitioning a drive will always hurt >> performance. > > I can see in certain situations it doesn't have to be an all out > performance looser now... I guess I'll have to try it for myself > to see if it is a genuine performance winner (as soon as I figure > out how to arrange partitions with free space appropriately...) > > Thanks much for the info! :) You're welcome. Tell you what, though-- if we ever run into each other at an expo or some such, you owe me a good beer. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 27 May 1997 19:03:23 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5mfb5r$fgr$4@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26851 comp.sys.next.hardware:29053 Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-May-97 Re: HELP > with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net > > And as for swap space fragmentation > > and placement...one could fill the hard drive half way... then > > kick with another system, make a new 500mb swap file, delete > > the old one (make the appropriate swaptab entries with lowat, > > hiwat, etc) then install the rest of the user files...and in > > essence get the swap file unfragmented in the middle of the > > system... > If I've followed you, yes, that's precisely what you want to do. I meant NOT partitioning above. That one could use a single partition to achieve much the same as a multipartition setup.... In essence do what can be done with 3 partitions in only one...but from what you mentioned before...that FFS WILL break up a file into chunks...b/c of that, it's better to set up a middle partition with few inodes and just fill the sucker up with a single file that's going to be guaranteed to be contiguous.... Whereas, even making a huge file the same size in a single partition won't guarantee a contiguous file... Ok, I think I've got it (or at least as much as the mush in my head will allow :) > You're welcome. Tell you what, though-- if we ever run into each > other at an expo or some such, you owe me a good beer. :-) Sounds like a good deal to me :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!198.111.253.39!branch.com!not-for-mail From: "Ben Martz" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: printer problem (not the same old one!) Date: 27 May 1997 19:00:18 GMT Organization: Various Organizations Lines: 8 Message-ID: <01bc6ad0$6bd1e1b0$29fd6fc6@ben> NNTP-Posting-Host: ben.branch.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 I've read a lot about the problem with the 400dpi printer where the paper doesn't feed all the way through, but here's one that I haven't heard of =( I just bought a 400dpi printer and when I try printing anything the motor goes a little bit but the paper never feeds in even the slightest bit! Any ideas? Please send replies to benmartz at branch dot net. Thanks! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wetware!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 13:36:03 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: John Kheit In-Reply-To: <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat I set this only to csn.hardware... please folks, if you _Have_ to crossposts, please set the Followups-To line.... I've gotten a lot out of this thread myself, I don't mind that at all... it just didn't need to take place on both groups.. On 27 May 1997, John Kheit wrote: > Charles William Swiger wrote: > > John Kheit said: > > > TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user > ^^^^^^^^^^is a new one on me :) What's it mean? I'm glad you asked... personally I think he made it up.... > And as for swap space fragmentation and placement...one could fill the > hard drive half way... then kick with another system, make a new 500mb > swap file, delete the old one (make the appropriate swaptab entries with > lowat, hiwat, etc) then install the rest of the user files...and in > essence get the swap file unfragmented in the middle of the system... Please tell me you don't mean 'delete the swapfile that has been used since I booted this system' I can't explain this as well as Charles, but lemme say that is a bad idea.. a big bad idea.... TjL... who'd have to buy by the keg if he ever went to an expo ;-) -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!nick.arc.nasa.gov!purdue!oitnews.harvard.edu!infobhan.med.harvard.edu!user From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help needed installing OpenStep 4.0 on Cube Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:32:59 -0400 Organization: Harvard Medical School Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: infobhan.med.harvard.edu I have a NeXT Cube (25 Mhz '040) with a broken optical drive and no floppy running NeXTSTEP 2.1. I have OpenStep 4.0 CD's and an Apple CD300e CD-ROM drive hooked up to the cube. I tried the recommended procedure for booting off the CD-ROM (referring to the external CD-ROM as drive "2") but it did not work. Inserting the CD while logged in to NeXTSTEP 2.1 gives me an error message that the disk could not be read (though it can read PC CD-ROM's without difficulty). Can anyone help me? Thanks. -- Ishir Bhan ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 27 May 1997 22:12:26 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Timothy Luoma wrote: > Please tell me you don't mean 'delete the swapfile that has been > used since I booted this system' > I can't explain this as well as Charles, but lemme say that is > a bad idea.. a big bad idea.... Hmmm, why? I've done it in the past w/o trouble... Have I been exceptionally lucky? > TjL... who'd have to buy by the keg if he ever went to an expo > ;-) Sounds like a sloshy good time :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:28:37 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: John Kheit In-Reply-To: <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat > Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Please tell me you don't mean 'delete the swapfile that has been > > used since I booted this system' > > > I can't explain this as well as Charles, but lemme say that is > > a bad idea.. a big bad idea.... > > Hmmm, why? I've done it in the past w/o trouble... Have I been > exceptionally lucky? I'd think so... If you had used the swapfile since you booted, there could be something still paged to that swapfile.... if it tried to access it the system would freeze, I would think.... Either you've been lucky or I'm misunderstanding... TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:02:25 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: po6.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by Timothy Luoma@peak.org > I set this only to csn.hardware... please folks, if you _Have_ to > crossposts, please set the Followups-To line.... > > I've gotten a lot out of this thread myself, I don't mind that at all... > it just didn't need to take place on both groups.. Excessive cross-posting is bad. Cross-posting to .advocacy or .misc and anything else is bad. Cross-posting to two newsgroups, both of which are appropriate, isn't bad. Oh, well...I guess we have a difference of opinion. >>> TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user >> ^^^^^^^^^^is a new one on me :) What's it mean? > > I'm glad you asked... personally I think he made it up.... Would I do that? :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Cube 25 MHz expansion boards? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:21:58 GMT References: <338AFBCE.12D0@127.0.0.1> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 17 In article <338AFBCE.12D0@127.0.0.1>, Anonymous wrote: >Does anyone know if any processor expansion boards were ever produced >for the old 25MHz cube? I am the proud owner of one, yet the docs only >mention them briefly. > I'm not sure what you mean by "processor expansion" boards, but there were a few NeXTbus boards made. The NeXTdimension graphics/video board was the most common, Ariel (sp?) made a couple of boards (one with 5 DSP56001s, one with an i860 as I recall), there are those strange FORE Systems ATM boards...that's all I can think of at the moment. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!not-for-mail From: John Kheit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 27 May 1997 23:42:49 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5mfrhp$o6b$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net NNTP-Posting-Host: cjc08018.slip.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > Please tell me you don't mean 'delete the swapfile that has > > > been used since I booted this system' > > Hmmm, why? I've done it in the past w/o trouble... Have I > > been exceptionally lucky? > I'd think so... > If you had used the swapfile since you booted, there could be > something still paged to that swapfile.... if it tried to access > it the system would freeze, I would think.... > Either you've been lucky or I'm misunderstanding... I think you missed the part of the post where I said I'm booting up with another system disk. If I do that, then the swap file on the other drive is inactive and can be removed and replaced... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.itjit.ad.jp!news-jp-0.abone.net!np1.iij.ad.jp!nf0.iij.ad.jp!nr0.iij.ad.jp!news.iij.ad.jp!np0.iij.ad.jp!nspixp!sinfony-news01!news01.so-net.or.jp!infosphere!news.hiroken.or.jp!usenet From: interbbs@hotmail.com (-*Future-Net*-) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FreeNetAccessWorldwide Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:44:53 GMT Organization: -*Future-Net*- Lines: 6 Message-ID: <338b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Reply-To: interbbs@hotmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.208.127.214 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Free Adult Internet Connection Worldwide Via Our Bbs. Follow the link and enjoy... http://cybercity.hko.net/la/interbbs/freenet/free.htm #################################################################### From: "Stanley" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Display Card Problem???? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:26:17 +0800 Organization: Netvigator Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5mg4uh$9lr@imsp009a.netvigator.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: yckam027035.netvigator.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news2.hkt.net!news.hkt.net.!imsp009a.netvigator.com!locker Which Card are better of ET6000 or MGA Mystique??? What is the performance of that??? Is MGA Mystique only support his functions 3D Game??? What's different from Sony CD-ROM CDU-511 or CDU-571??? and which one are better??? Thanks you very much!!!!! Komuro sta82105@netvigator.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wetware!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:21:59 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mfrhp$o6b$1@news2.digex.net> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: John Kheit In-Reply-To: <5mfrhp$o6b$1@news2.digex.net> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat > I think you missed the part of the post where I said I'm booting > up with another system disk. If I do that, then the swap file on > the other drive is inactive and can be removed and replaced... yes I thought you had been using this since you have booted the current time (current login) TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsbuffer.myriad.net!news.myriad.net!usenet From: sjohnson@myriad.net (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.modems,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.storage Subject: Re: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE%%%%%%%%@! Date: 28 May 1997 06:57:15 GMT Organization: DigiPhone Corporation, Bryan/College Station Texas 409-693-8885 Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5mgl0b$5jk@news.myriad.net> References: <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: usr28s8.myriad.net In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de alt.online-service.america-online:21505 alt.online-service.compuserve:19547 alt.online-service.freenet:2992 alt.online-service.genie:7759 alt.online-service.microsoft:6900 alt.online-service.prodigy:36786 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:74704 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:29229 comp.sys.mac.portables:88769 comp.sys.misc:5872 comp.sys.next.hardware:29065 comp.sys.next.marketplace:17760 comp.sys.next.misc:25989 misc.entrepreneurs:281488 misc.forsale.computers.discussion:11827 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc:14304 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video:10806 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc:53237 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables:30832 misc.forsale.computers.memory:71578 misc.forsale.computers.modems:35647 misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware:28127 misc.forsale.computers.other.misc:57451 misc.forsale.computers.other.software:26798 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc:25141 misc.forsale.computers.storage:65711 On 05/25/97, steve wrote: >In article <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net>, tsnSSSmith@csd.net wrote: > >> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! >> >> Its finally here > > >Its been here for a while, ever here of richochet??? > No, you got me. But I'm curious what is richochet? -- --- Stephen Johnson, sjohnson@myriad.net@ Computer Consulting Intl, LTD PO Box 1046 College Station, TX 77841 409-778-4717 "the Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests" President Andrew Jackson, June 8, 1845 NOTE: delete the second @ to email to me. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <338b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Date: 28 May 1997 05:53:54 GMT Control: cancel <338b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Message-ID: Sender: interbbs@hotmail.com (-*Future-Net*-) X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! ColorStation Turbo won't start up Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 07:01:34 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Tim Danaher In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Get into the ROM monitor and type 'bsd' at the 'NeXT' prompt and watch the boot process happen and see exactly what happens... the pictures during boot are nice but not very helpful... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!not-for-mail From: maria_eugenia@jump.net (Maria Eugenia Tapia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info on black internal disk Date: 28 May 1997 11:50:24 -0500 Organization: Jump Point Communications, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: serv1-2.jump.net I'm looking to replace the internal hard disk of my NextStation (040, 25Mhz, 3.1) and need basic information on compatibility, recommendations on a reliable 1 to 1.5 gig disk, and sources. Any information would be appreciated. Maria Eugenia Tapia (maria_eugenia@jump.net) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info on black internal disk Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:10:14 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Maria Eugenia Tapia In-Reply-To: <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat I believe the basic necessity is asynch transfer and SCSI-1 (maybe SCSI-2). Biggest problem will be size & heat.... The FAQ (linked to my NeXT page) has some info... not sure how much or how old.... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cliffs.rs.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: Ben Pfaff Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead 68040 machine Date: 28 May 1997 13:49:04 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 22 Sender: blp@thorin Message-ID: <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm166-28.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: pfaff X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 I recently acquired, for free, a dead 68040 NeXT machine with 17" monitor, from a local school with no use for it. The symptoms that it has are as follows: * When the power key on the keyboard is pressed, the only thing that happens is a speaker click. If I put on the headphones then it's a loud click. * I thought that the problem might be the battery. After all, when I removed the battery, not even the speaker click happened. But replacing the battery, even after leaving the old one out for 24 hours, had no effect. * I suspect the power supply. Is there a source for replacement NeXT power supplies? PC power supplies don't supply enough amps at the voltages that the NeXT wants. Any suggestions would be immensely appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Ben Pfaff 12167 Airport Rd, DeWitt MI 48820, USA *Note*: New PGP key available at http://www.msu.edu/user/pfaffben/pgp.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!chapman.com!chapman.com!geordie From: geordie@chapman.com (Geordie Korper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ca.forsale,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems,la.forsale Subject: Re: FS: NeXTStation Turbo Color 400HD, 16MB $1000+s/h Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 11:02:45 -0500 Organization: Chapman and Cutler Lines: 48 Approved: USDA Message-ID: References: <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: korper Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:17763 ca.forsale:30147 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:74743 comp.sys.mac.system:219310 comp.sys.next.hardware:29070 misc.forsale.computers:13353 misc.forsale.computers.workstation:46625 misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems:50160 In article , drehring@infowave.net (David Rehring) wrote: :In article <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com>, robert@ictv.com wrote: : :>Mac Developers, get a head start on Rhapsody! :> :>For Sale: NeXTStation Turbo Color, 400MB Hard Drive, 16MB RAM :> :> :>NO monitor, but with sound box, keyboard and mouse :>and all cables. :> :>It's configured with NS 3.2 user, but 3.2 User and Developer :>CDs are included. :> :>16 MB of RAM and 400 MB hard drive. :> :>$1000 + shipping. Free delivery in the Santa Barbara/Santa Maria area :> : :Is it just me, or does this price seem a little high for this box :considering it doesn't come with it's monitor (since you need the NeXT :specific one). Most of the 'Turbo-stations' I've seen in :comp.sys.next.marketplace are in the $500-$1000, but also include the :monitor (which ain't cheep)... : :Just my 1 cent worth... Well it is about twice what they go for with a monitor but maybe he will get lucky. : :Later, : :-- :David Rehring Psychos do not explode when light hits :Senior Software Engineer them, no matter how crazy they are... :InfoWave Wireless Messaging Inc. (Formerly GDT Softworks, Inc.) :And totally insane guy! -- Geordie Korper geordie@chapman.com ********************************************************************* * The text above should in no way be construed to represent the * * opinions of my employer, even if specifically stated to do so. * ********************************************************************* #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!shell1.tiac.net!lespaul From: lespaul@shell1.tiac.net (David Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Syquest SyJet Removable Drive on a NextStation Date: 28 May 97 19:15:42 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: shell1.tiac.net X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #1 Has anyone had a problems connecting a Syquest SyJet removable SCSI drive to a NextStation?? I was considering purchasing one and was wondering if there were any known problems. -Dave david_wilson@crd.lotus.com lespaul@shell1.tiac.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!worldnet.att.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dti.ad.jp!news-jp-0.abone.net!np1.iij.ad.jp!nf0.iij.ad.jp!nr0.iij.ad.jp!news.iij.ad.jp!np0.iij.ad.jp!nspixp!sinfony-news01!news01.so-net.or.jp!infosphere!news.hiroken.or.jp!usenet From: interbbs@hotmail.com (InternetPRO.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FreeNetAccessWorldwid+ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:02:55 GMT Organization: InternetPRO. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <337b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Reply-To: interbbs@hotmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.208.127.213 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Free Adult Internet Connection Worldwid+ Via Our Bbs. Follow the link and enjoy... http://cybercity.hko.net/la/interbbs/freenet/free.htm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!sun.sirius.com!usenet From: John van Heteren Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT slab floppy eject problems Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:52:08 -0700 Organization: Sirius Connections Lines: 33 Message-ID: <338C8CE8.6006@sirius.com> Reply-To: j.g.vanheteren@ieee.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp013-sm2.sirius.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Hi, I have a 25 MHz Mono NeXT slab still working fine except for one problem: When I eject a floppy diskette, the diskette does indeed exit the slot, but then the computer hangs with a spinning cursor. My only recourse is to reboot. I am assuming that there is a 'floppy successfully ejected' sensor which is failing to tell the OS that the floppy is indeed gone. I've actually had this problem several times before. In those instances, I opened the slab, extracted the floppy dirve, and thoroughly cleaned it with compressed dry air. Upon re-installation, the floppy drive worked fine for a while. Well, my cleaning trick no longer works. I guess the sensor is fully clogged up. My question: Is there a command line method of ejecting the floppy such that the sensor is ignored? Is there a special flag that I can use in the command line? Or, can I logically dismount the floppy with a command and then manually eject the floppy with a pushpin stuck into the service hole? Please send your answers directly to me. Thank you, John van Heteren vanhet@sirius.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.caldera.com!news.et.byu.edu!not-for-mail From: "Jesse D. Hurlbut" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing 3.3 on black from white hardware Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:01:13 -0600 Organization: StarPage LCC Lines: 7 Message-ID: <338B83D9.6A03@starpage.com> Reply-To: webmaster@starpage.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.187.41.129 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) I've found a new drive for my hand-me-down NeXTStation but of course, it doesn't have NS on it. I have the install disks, but no CD-ROM player. Is there a way I can connect it to my white hardware (which is running NS 3.3 and which has an internal SCSI-2W CD-ROM) and do the install from there? Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu #################################################################### Date: 28 May 1997 20:29:33 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-by: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: interbbs@hotmail.com (InternetPRO.) Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <337b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Control: cancel <337b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> X-No-Archive: Yes X-Spam-Type: FREENETACCESS Lines: 4 FREENETACCESS spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: FreeNetAccessWorldwid+ Total spams this type to date: 5201 Total this spam type for this user to date: 1932 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT slab floppy eject problems Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:31:44 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <338C8CE8.6006@sirius.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: j.g.vanheteren@ieee.org In-Reply-To: <338C8CE8.6006@sirius.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat What you want is to 'umount' the drive first and then use disk -e for example, if it is mounted as /floppy at /dev/fd0a you would use /usr/etc/umount -v /floppy && disk -e /dev/rfd0a (note: floppies seem to be mounted at /dev/fd0a or /dev/fd0b... when using disk -e you must use the RAW device...) I wrote a little script to do this such as eject /floppy of course umount & disk must be run as root TjL ps -- I can help you with the commandline way if you want -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: planetary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fun with swapfiles Date: 28 May 1997 16:47:55 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5micmr$a03@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970327; sun4m SunOS 5.5.1] These swapfile stories bring back some old memories. When I bought my first NeXT machine, I crashed it in every way imaginable. Once I crashed it by selecting the host name in Workspace Manager and changing the name. Symlinks all over the machine broke. Then I tried to "fix" it. That's how I met the Mach researchers at the Univ. of Utah. They reloaded the OS for me, showed me single-user mode, etc. Nice guys, but they got really frustrated with me when I asked them if FTP was "hard to use." But I never crashed it by deleting the swapfile. After its deletion, it just kept growing back, like a fungus. And its absence never seemed to hurt anything. Of course, now that I know better, I would never delete my swapfile, as it would probably crash my machine instantly. =) .....................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT slab floppy eject problems Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:14:32 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <338C8CE8.6006@sirius.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: j.g.vanheteren@ieee.org In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat here's the script I whipped up: #!/bin/sh if [ "`whoami`" != "root" ] then echo "You must be root to eject & umount" exit 1 fi dev=`/usr/etc/mount -p|grep removable|\ grep '^\/dev\/fd' |awk '{print $1}'| sed 's/\/dev\///g'` name=`/usr/etc/mount -p|grep removable|grep '^\/dev\/fd' |\ awk '{print $2}'` if [ "$dev" = "" ] then echo "No floppy mounted" exit 1 else /usr/etc/umount -v "$name" && /usr/etc/disk -e /dev/r$dev && \ echo "Unmounted $name and ejected /dev/r$dev" fi exit 0 # hope this helps #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd.cv.hp.com!news.vcd.hp.com!news From: Fred Schenkelberg Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MegaPixel Display curling up on bottom Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:56:25 -0700 Organization: HP Vancouver Site Lines: 24 Message-ID: <338CFE69.1391@vcd.hp.com> Reply-To: fms@vcd.hp.com NNTP-Posting-Host: vcsfredsc1.vcd.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C (WinNT; I) Help, Been to the local tv repair shop and after a hundred bucks they make it worse. The problem is the screen is (or the visible area appears to be) curling up at the bottom and coming down from the top. Such that the cursor moving from top to bottom, travels less screen distance and heads back up around the curl over the last 1 inch of visible image, which is about 2 inches up from where it once was. This would be easier if I could show you. anyway, the tv folks said, "oh, yea, it's the vertical control chip and a few caps..." Any suggestions to pass along to the tv repair folks - since I've learned from this group not to go messing around in there myself. Is there a source of good info (drawings, pictures, etc) out there I can poin the repair folks toward? Cheers, Fred fms@vcd.hp.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.spinne.com!grouper.exis.net!not-for-mail From: "Jeffrey S. Flowers" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Hardware Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 00:11:34 -0400 Organization: EYE Productions Lines: 16 Message-ID: <338D01F6.98DEED0D@exis.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-4-100.exis.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i686) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I have two questions that probably are simple, both in reference to black hardware: 1. Is there an adapter for normal monitors to be used with NeXT black hardware video output and if there is, who makes it. 2. Are the floppy drives in NeXT hardware basically a 2.88MB version of the Macintosh's, and can the Mac floppy drives be used with the NeXT systemas replacements? I would like to know in case I ever need to replace the floppy on the slab I've ordered. Thanks for your time. -- Jeffrey S. Flowers dagdagh@exis.net This is no freedom without freedom of speech. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!corn.cso.niu.edu!not-for-mail From: bennett@corn.cso.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black hardware memory question Date: 29 May 1997 03:33:12 -0500 Organization: Oregon State University Lines: 23 Distribution: na Message-ID: <5mjf08$jae@corn.cso.niu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: corn.cso.niu.edu I'm in the process of sprucing up my old Cube, which still has eight of its sixteen SIMM slots sitting empty. The first eight have 4Mbx9's in them and I had planned to buy eight more, but I see a few vendors are selling 30-pin SIMMs that they claim are 16Mbx9 SIMMs with nine chips per SIMM (as with 1Mbx9's and 4Mbx9's.) What I'd like to know is will these 16Mbx9 SIMMs actually work in a NeXT Cube? --->If anyone knows the answer, please reply directly by email, but to an address in the signature block below. I rarely log into the machine from which I'm posting this message these days. Thanks much. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG Dept. of Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University Corvallis, Oregon 97331 ********************************************************************** * Internet: sbennett@ats.orst.edu sbennett@oce.orst.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "The jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in * * controversy."--John Jay, First Chief Justice, U.S. Supreme Court * * in Georgia vs. Brailsford, 1794 * ********************************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!gmv.es!news.IAEhv.nl!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!nr1.scn.co.jp!news01.so-net.or.jp!infosphere!news.hiroken.or.jp!usenet From: stephlise@telco.com (Steph & Lise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cum visit our free BBS Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:38:11 GMT Organization: Steph & Lise Lines: 6 Message-ID: <336b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Reply-To: stephlise@telco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.208.127.213 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Free Adult Internet Connection Worldwid- Via Our Bbs. Follow the link and enjoy... http://cybercity.hko.net/la/interbbs/freenet/free.htm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!in2p3.fr!oleane!jussieu.fr!eurocontrol.fr!polaris.eurocontrol.fr!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: stephlise@telco.com (Steph & Lise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:38:11 GMT Message-ID: Subject: cmsg cancel <336b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Control: cancel <336b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Approved: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr X-Cancelled-By: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Newsposter: cancel-spam version 1.22 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 9 ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. 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Date: Thu May 29 11:25:11 1997 Original subject was: Cum visit our free BBS #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Odd power on/off problem Date: 29 May 1997 15:29:47 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5mk7db$ser$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5ma8bt$hqn@news.bu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: charris@bu.edu In <5ma8bt$hqn@news.bu.edu> Catherine Harris wrote: > After 5 years of flawless service, my NextStation (running 3.0) came > down with this problem: > > The PowerOn key dumps me in the Rom monitor. From there, I can boot > just by typing bsd. The boot is fine, nothing appears damaged and I > can work as normal. > > But the PowerOn key can not be used to shut this machine off. I have > to unplug it. Interestingly, within 30 sec of sticking the machine's > power plug into an outlet, it pops on, and sticks me in Rom (without > me every hitting the power on key). > > Hitting the power key gives the usual really power off sign. As > normal, the screen goes gray, the finally it appears to power off > screen goes black, everything goes silent) -- and then the computer > starts up, I get a testing message, then I'm dumped in the Rom > monitor. (From which point I can bsd and go about my work.) > I'm not sure how common this is because I've not seen these symptoms posted very much. But it sounds like a motherboard battery problem. Replace the battery on the Motherboard and in the ROM monitor reset your options by using p ROM> p Your system should be fine then. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on 3 GB large disk? Date: 29 May 1997 15:40:48 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5mk820$ser$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: liu@emerald.physics In Wei Liu wrote: > Hi, there: > > Anyone has such experience in installing NEXTSTEP OS 3.2 on a large SCSI disk bigger than 2GB? I know both /etc/disk and DiskBuilder have problem with that. And the CDROM installation won't help either. Following one of NEXTanswers on this issue, I was able to partition and initialize it by creating a disktab entry. Although it behaves all right as a file system, it seems it can't be booted even I moved every system file to this disk and wrote the /usr/standalone/boot into the boot sector. It just hangs ri > > ght after saying "root on sd0". Sometimes it even says no SCSI disk attached. Your help is greatly appreciated!! > I'm sure someone has a more clever way of doing this and I never really researched for a good solution. I have never been able to install NS directly from CD to a HD larger than 2G on black hardware. Last time I tried this was under 3.2 as you are trying. If you have a working system running NS3.2 you should be able to construct a disktab (as you already have) and then use builddisk on the 3G disk. It worked fine on a 4G barracuda I have. After running this way I switched back to using a <2G drive as my system disk. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Info on black internal disk Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 13:38:29 GMT Lines: 17 In article <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> maria_eugenia@jump.net (Maria Eugenia Tapia) writes: > I'm looking to replace the internal hard disk of my NextStation > (040, 25Mhz, 3.1) and need basic information on compatibility, > recommendations on a reliable 1 to 1.5 gig disk, and sources. > Any information would be appreciated. > All black machines require SCSI-1, asynch. SCSI-2 (without automatic disabling of SCSI-2 features) will lead to problems with disconnect/ reconnect operations on heavy I/O loads. Synch mode drives will not be able to boot. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 13:24:35 GMT Lines: 28 In article <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Ben Pfaff writes: > I recently acquired, for free, a dead 68040 NeXT machine with > 17" monitor, from a local school with no use for it. The symptoms > that it has are as follows: > > * When the power key on the keyboard is pressed, the only > thing that happens is a speaker click. If I put on the headphones > then it's a loud click. > > * I thought that the problem might be the battery. After all, > when I removed the battery, not even the speaker click happened. But > replacing the battery, even after leaving the old one out for 24 > hours, had no effect. > > * I suspect the power supply. Is there a source for > replacement NeXT power supplies? PC power supplies don't supply enough > amps at the voltages that the NeXT wants. > NeXT hardware support is availble through BellAtlantic. Their serice is said to be rather expensive, though. BTW, have you tested the power output on your slab? Any voltages missing? -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Faded streaks on NeXT Laser Printer Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 13:32:36 GMT Lines: 32 In article <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) writes: > I got one of the refurbished NeXT LaserPrinters from the PrinterWorks. > It seems to work great except for one thing. After a while, it gets a > faded streak where the printing is very light on about 1/5 of the width > of the paper. If I take the toner cartridge out and shake it and put it > back, then the printing is fine again...for a while, and the problem > recurs, fixable the same way. It has a new HP 92295A toner cartridge. > > What I need to know is, is this problem due to something wrong on the > printer (e.g. the fuser), or the toner cartridge, or what? One thing I > can figure out is where the long felt pad bar goes in the printer. I > seem to recall from having worked with an original NeXT LaserPrinter is > that it went somewhere along the paper path; I can't find a place for it > in the refurbished printer. > The felt bar sits right under the hinge of the printer's cover. Rather hard to access. And if the fuser is hot you are in danger to get some rather hot fingers :-) But what does a "new catridge" mean? Is is manufactured lately or just unused until now? Laser printer toner is mainly a ground powder of a polymer raisin and soot. If it sits on shelf for a long time it tends to occlude and the static electricity of the selenium drum might not be able to get it spread finely enough (therefore the suceptibilty for working correctly after being shook up). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: Ben Pfaff Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Date: 29 May 1997 13:05:06 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 16 Sender: blp@thorin Message-ID: <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> References: <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm245-24.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: pfaff X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > NeXT hardware support is availble through BellAtlantic. Their serice is > said to be rather expensive, though. > > BTW, have you tested the power output on your slab? Any voltages missing? When I push the power key on the keyboard, nothing happens. A voltmeter registers a fraction of a volt for a fraction of a second. Does anyone know the color coding of power supply wires? Does anyone know how the power supply can be convinced to `turn on' when it's not connected to a NeXT computer-monitor-keyboard-power key? I guess what I'm asking is, how does one test a NeXT power supply? -- Ben Pfaff 12167 Airport Rd, DeWitt MI 48820, USA *Note*: New PGP key available at http://www.msu.edu/user/pfaffben/pgp.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!ciril.fr!univ-angers.fr!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Date: 29 May 1997 18:01:29 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5mkg9p$4eo@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: Reply-To: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber35.bordeaux.imaginet.fr > In article <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Ben Pfaff writes: > I recently acquired, for free, a dead 68040 NeXT machine with > 17" monitor, from a local school with no use for it. The symptoms > that it has are as follows: > [...] > > * I suspect the power supply. Is there a source for > replacement NeXT power supplies? PC power supplies don't supply enough > amps at the voltages that the NeXT wants. > Have a look at : http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html __Pascal Bourguignon__ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!ciril.fr!univ-angers.fr!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Odd power on/off problem Date: 29 May 1997 18:04:34 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5mkgfi$4f5@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <5mk7db$ser$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber35.bordeaux.imaginet.fr > In <5ma8bt$hqn@news.bu.edu> Catherine Harris wrote: > After 5 years of flawless service, my NextStation (running 3.0) came > down with this problem: > > The PowerOn key dumps me in the Rom monitor. From there, I can boot > just by typing bsd. The boot is fine, nothing appears damaged and I > can work as normal. > > But the PowerOn key can not be used to shut this machine off. I have > to unplug it. Interestingly, within 30 sec of sticking the machine's > power plug into an outlet, it pops on, and sticks me in Rom (without > me every hitting the power on key). > > Hitting the power key gives the usual really power off sign. As > normal, the screen goes gray, the finally it appears to power off > screen goes black, everything goes silent) -- and then the computer > starts up, I get a testing message, then I'm dumped in the Rom > monitor. (From which point I can bsd and go about my work.) Have a look at : http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html __Pascal Bourguignon__ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!news.et.byu.edu!not-for-mail From: "Jesse D. Hurlbut" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: experience with Conner drive? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:37:24 -0600 Organization: StarPage LCC Lines: 7 Message-ID: <338CC1B4.7AAA@starpage.com> Reply-To: webmaster@starpage.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.187.41.129 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) does anyone have any good or bad reports on installing a Conner CFP1060S 1Gb drive in a NeXTstation? How can I find out if this is an asynch drive? thanks, Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu!popadich From: popadich@umich.edu (Alex Popadich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 - Sanyo CRD-245S install problems Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:36:12 -0500 Organization: Health Media Research Lab Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <5m5bt4$ahn@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-106.subnet-137.med.umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b13 In article <5m5bt4$ahn@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>, uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote: > > Bad news: it is exactly your CD-ROM (sd1: SANYO CRD-245S 1.01) that for some > reason has proven incompatible with NEXTSTEP. Replace it with a, say, > Toshiba, and everything will work... > > Bye > Uli > -- This is exactly what the problem was. I managed to find an old Apple CD-Rom and hooked it up externaly and then installed from the external drive. The only caveat was that the installer needed to be told where the root partition is located. In my case it would be on the first partition of the third SCSI device. NOTE: Third SCSI device not the SCSI ID. The documentation states that at the boot: prompt I should type something like fd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd0c to specify that the root partition is the first partition (0) on the 3rd drive (c). This did not work. What worked for me is: fd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd2, the devices nubers are zero based. Hope this is of help to anyone who is having similar problems. Alex Popadich --------------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Popadich popadich@umich.edu Health Media Research Lab (313) 763-6099 Comprehensive Cancer Center University of Michigan "Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together..." -- Carl Zwanzig --------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.171.96.4!news.nvi.net!sysop@nvi.net From: salyzyn@dpt.com (Mark Salyzyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: 29 May 1997 21:00:09 GMT Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5mkqop$uk1@news.nvi.net> References: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> <5m5u6d$7qo@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: salyzyn_mark.dpt.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I wrote a driver for the ScanFX scanner that works fine on NS3.2 to OS4.2 Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn mark@bohica.net #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Hardware Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:32:22 GMT References: <338D01F6.98DEED0D@exis.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 30 In article <338D01F6.98DEED0D@exis.net>, Jeffrey S. Flowers wrote: >I have two questions that probably are simple, both in reference to >black hardware: > >1. Is there an adapter for normal monitors to be used with NeXT black >hardware video output and if there is, who makes it. > You can use pretty much any good monitor on the colour machines, provided you can get the 13W3 connector to agree with your monitor. I've had good results with IBM POWERDisplay 20s and P200s, but didn't fare so well with some Sun thing (the one with the silly remote control.) You're pretty much hosed for mono, without severe hackery (lots of circuitry is in the monitor, like audio CODECs, keyboard interface, etc.) >2. Are the floppy drives in NeXT hardware basically a 2.88MB version of >the Macintosh's, and can the Mac floppy drives be used with the NeXT >systemas replacements? I would like to know in case I ever need to >replace the floppy on the slab I've ordered. > No. The NeXT floppy is something strange--Sony MPX-111 or so sticks in my mind. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!Hal!toth.22 From: toth.22@osu.edu (Jerek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Logging in with used hdd Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 01:38:35 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts33-7.homenet.ohio-state.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #1] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29094 comp.sys.next.software:29764 Hi folks, I just installed a used hdd on my Nextstation and it keeps on asking for a user name and password. Is there a way to get around this? Thanks Spam-proof email... <*remove the '##' in my email address*> #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.mhpcc.edu!not-for-mail From: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faded streaks on NeXT Laser Printer Date: 30 May 1997 02:13:21 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5mld41$lt0$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.0.2 Beta(i) Cc: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org In Peter Nitezki wrote: > In article <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> L e e Altenberg writes: > > I got one of the refurbished NeXT LaserPrinters from the PrinterWorks. > > It seems to work great except for one thing. After a while, it gets a > > faded streak where the printing is very light on about 1/5 of the width > > of the paper. If I take the toner cartridge out and shake it and put it > > back, then the printing is fine again...for a while, and the problem > > recurs, fixable the same way. It has a new HP 92295A toner cartridge. > > > > But what does a "new catridge" mean? Is is manufactured lately or just > unused until now? Laser printer toner is mainly a ground powder of a > polymer raisin and soot. If it sits on shelf for a long time it tends to > occlude and the static electricity of the selenium drum might not be able > to get it spread finely enough (therefore the suceptibilty for working > correctly after being shook up). > I bought the HP 92295A toner cartridge in March from CDW. Since they do a pretty high volume, I would presume that it was manufactured very recently. When I have just shaken up the cartridge, the printing quality is really excellent---blacks are much more saturated than they were with a NeXT Laser Printer using an HP cartridge back in 1990. So the toner cartridge technology must have improved. But the light streak would suggest that the toner is sticking, leaving gaps in the stack above the drum. The PrinterWorks said the problem was the cartridge. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.slack.net!news.he.net!nr1.scn.co.jp!news01.so-net.or.jp!infosphere!news.hiroken.or.jp!usenet From: stephlise@telco.com (Steph&Lise.) 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Total spams this type to date: 6606 Total this spam type for this user to date: 23 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Logging in with used hdd Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 06:08:30 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Fri, 30 May 1997, Jerek wrote: > Hi folks, I just installed a used hdd on my Nextstation and it keeps on > asking for a user name and password. Is there a way to get around this? when is it asking for a password? When you boot? Or after you boot? Checkout the 'faq' page on my web page for dealing with not knowing the root password.... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gryphon.phoenix.net!phillips From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CPU Timing On 68k NeXT Date: 30 May 1997 18:07:43 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5mn51f$1gr$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha1.phoenix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Fellow Netters - This is another appeal for information about how the 68k NeXT board's CPU timing works. My current project is to move some of the Mac clock chipping techniques over to the somewhat similar 68k NeXT boards. I have two slab boards and am working to understand how the CPU timing works. On Macs, we can easily replace an oscillator and speed up the CPU (for many models) but the 68k NeXT uses a different type of oscillator. Does anyone out there know how the CPU gets its timing and how it distributes that signal to the other components (optical drive, hard drive, video)? If so, could you write me? TIA -- Charles D Phillips Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery web page at: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpuerci.atl.hp.com!news From: "Joseph K. Vossen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: trying to size ups for a cube..... Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 14:03:19 -0400 Organization: Internet and Systems Security Lab Lines: 6 Distribution: world Message-ID: <338F1667.3BF9@issl.atl.hp.com> Reply-To: jkv@issl.atl.hp.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 15.47.224.18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) I am looking at getting a ups for my cube and I am trying to get an idea on what size to get. For those of you who have your cube on a ups, what size did you end up getting? (and are you happy with the one you purchased or do you think you should have gotten a bigger one?) thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feed1.news.erols.com!news.alt.net!newspost1.alt.net!NewsWatcher!user From: lance@chimp.org (Lancelot Link) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT MegaPixel 17" -> Macintosh Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 17:13:23 -0500 Organization: Secret Chimp Lines: 8 Message-ID: X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3fc3 Greetings. I'd like to hook a MegaPixel 17" to a Mac; does anyone have a pointer to, say, a company that makes an adapter? Thanks kindly. T #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: experience with Conner drive? Date: 30 May 1997 21:32:10 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19970530213200.RAA12622@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <338CC1B4.7AAA@starpage.com> does anyone have any good or bad reports on installing a Conner CFP1060S 1Gb drive in a NeXTstation? How can I find out if this is an asynch drive? conner is an ok drive until they break. seagate doesnt want to acknowledge their warranty. why do i say this. because i have 30 seagate 51080n , new in stock. sorry. but the are $349 new UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!jupiter.nic.dtag.de!lorentz.wise.tzl.de!photon.ON-Luebeck.DE!usenet From: Christian Hahn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanner support Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 02:03:36 +0200 Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <338F6AD8.337C@on-luebeck.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: on186.on-luebeck.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Hi to everybody! I'm looking for information about scanners that are supported by OpenStep. I've found a driver for the UMAX Vista S-8. Does anyone know about a driver for the other Vista models (S-6, S-12)? If there is anyone experienced in this stuff, please help. Thanks in advance, Christian #################################################################### From: rgranneman@spectir.com (Russ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next cube ROM settings .. HELP Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 01:00:22 GMT Organization: West.Net Communications Lines: 6 Message-ID: <338f7752.604209@news.west.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: term1-5.sb.west.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.touch.net!news.infostar.de!news2.planetc.com!news.planetc.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.west.net!news I recently lost my battery on my Next cube and as a result lost all ROM settings. I have no documentation on the system and I need guidance resetting them to boot from my SCSI HD. How do I get into the "bios?" ? Keyboard input during boot?? Thanks for your help Russ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!not-for-mail From: dyaeb@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (David Aston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! NS3.3/OS4.1 will not install on new Sparc 5 Date: 31 May 1997 03:04:10 GMT Organization: Stanford University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5mo4fa$59m$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: kmeson.slac.stanford.edu I have a new SPARCstation 5 with the 170Mhz TurboSPARC chip and S24 video. During the initial loading of NextStep or OpenStep it crashes (before any software has been installed). With OpenStep 4.1, it just aborts and reboots. The last messages are about zs0 and zs1. Trying NextStep 3.3 I get a kernel panic with a traceback (I can send details if anyone thinks it will help). The last message is about zs0. This is not a hardware problem (even though I installed the CDRom and floppy drives!); as a check, I did successfully install and run Solaris on it. I have also installed NS3.3 before on several Sparc 4's without trouble, so I don't think it's basic incompetence either. I cannot find any information in NextAnswers indicating that the latest Sparc 5's are not supported. Can anyone help??? -- Dave Aston......Internet: dyaeb@slac.stanford.edu; BitNet: RIP *8-( MS62 Voice: (415)926-2457; Fax: (415)926-3587 SLAC, Stanford U, and DOE are not responsible for _anything_ I say. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:48:23 GMT Lines: 45 In article <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Ben Pfaff writes: > Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > > NeXT hardware support is availble through BellAtlantic. Their > > serice is said to be rather expensive, though. > > > > BTW, have you tested the power output on your slab? Any voltages > > missing? > > When I push the power key on the keyboard, nothing happens. A > voltmeter registers a fraction of a volt for a fraction of a > second. > > Does anyone know the color coding of power supply wires? Does > anyone know how the power supply can be convinced to `turn on' > when it's not connected to a NeXT computer-monitor-keyboard-power > key? I guess what I'm asking is, how does one test a NeXT power > supply? I can't tell you the pinout, and I'm a bit too lazy to rmove the 100 pound 21" monitor to open the box for checking as long as there are other ways to find out. Check the FAQ and Usenet archive on Peanuts , for instance. But I can tell you a bit about how the thing is meant to work: The power supplies in black machines, cubes as well as slabs, are self adjusting fully electronic switching devices. They are controlled by a battery backed up support cirquitry that controls the keyboard, clock and configuration NOVRAM. The pulse that you measured might well have been this control signal! Since these power supply units have no mechanical cirquit breaker, there is a "way of last resort" fuse soldered onto the cirquit board of the power supply. Unfortunately, in almost all cases that this fuse is blown a serious damage to the power supply is the consequence (or prerequesite?). But in many cases the power supply does not react to the power switch it is only a spent back up battery. It should measure 3V and, in case of being spent, can easily be replaced with a spare to be bought in any camera store. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Next cube ROM settings .. HELP Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <338f7752.604209@news.west.net> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:24:46 GMT Lines: 14 In article <338f7752.604209@news.west.net> rgranneman@spectir.com (Russ) writes: > I recently lost my battery on my Next cube and as a result lost all > ROM settings. I have no documentation on the system and I need > guidance resetting them to boot from my SCSI HD. How do I get into > the "bios?" ? Keyboard input during boot?? > Press (double key stroke) while system is starting up. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT MegaPixel 17" -> Macintosh Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:26:26 GMT Lines: 14 In article lance@chimp.org (Lancelot Link) writes: > Greetings. > > I'd like to hook a MegaPixel 17" to a Mac; does anyone have a pointer > to, say, a company that makes an adapter? > The monochrome NeXT monitor has no own power supply. It can't be operated apart from the NeXT system unit. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: trying to size ups for a cube..... Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <338F1667.3BF9@issl.atl.hp.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:30:34 GMT Lines: 13 In article <338F1667.3BF9@issl.atl.hp.com> "Joseph K. Vossen" writes: > I am looking at getting a ups for my cube and I am trying to get an > idea on what size to get. For those of you who have your cube on > a ups, what size did you end up getting? (and are you happy with the > one you purchased or do you think you should have gotten a bigger one?) > The power intake of a Cube is 300W at a maximum current (start up) of 5A. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!uwvax!homer.cs.wisc.edu!finton From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Can I use a trackball on a non-ADB turbocolor NeXT? Date: 31 May 1997 17:37:13 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5mpnk9$dbm@spool.cs.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: homer.cs.wisc.edu I have a non-ADB NeXT TurboColor, and am using a Logitech bus mouse on it. I was wondering if there are any trackball devices which would work with the converter which came with the Logitech? Recommendations? Thanks, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!feeder.chicago.cic.net!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanner support Date: 31 May 1997 18:24:02 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 69 Message-ID: <5mpqc2$1pau@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <338F6AD8.337C@on-luebeck.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: theory1.physics.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Christian Hahn wrote: > Hi to everybody! > > I'm looking for information about scanners that are supported by > OpenStep. I've found a driver for the UMAX Vista S-8. Does anyone know > about a driver for the other Vista models (S-6, S-12)? > If there is anyone experienced in this stuff, please help. > Thanks in advance, > > Christian Our theory group just bought an S-6 which doesn't quite work with Woodward's scan.app. Since source is available, one might be able to modify it to get one of the other UMAX scanners to work. From the messages we receive on three error panels that pop up with the following messages 1) SCSI error: sr_io_status=02X (Check status, sr_esense valid) 2) Report failed! Sense key=00X (No sense to report) Sense code = 00X 3) Couldn't read! and the messages that appear in the console: size=0 CDB= sr_dma_dir=0 sr_addr=002fbfe2 sr_dma_max=65535 sr_ioto=90 sr_io_status=2 sr_scsi_status=02 sr_esense=F000200000DB2417000000000000000000000000000000000000 sr_dma_xfr=0 sr_exec_time=000000001C4E0000 Sense: 0 (0x00) = 0xF0 15 (0x0F) = 0x00 Sense: 1 (0x01) = 0x00 16 (0x10) = 0x00 Sense: 2 (0x02) = 0x20 17 (0x11) = 0x00 Sense: 3 (0x03) = 0x00 18 (0x12) = 0x00 Sense: 4 (0x04) = 0x00 19 (0x13) = 0x00 Sense: 5 (0x05) = 0xDB 20 (0x14) = 0x00 Sense: 6 (0x06) = 0x24 21 (0x15) = 0x00 Sense: 7 (0x07) = 0x17 22 (0x16) = 0x00 Sense: 8 (0x08) = 0x00 23 (0x17) = 0x00 Sense: 9 (0x09) = 0x00 24 (0x18) = 0x00 Sense: 10 (0x0A) = 0x00 25 (0x19) = 0x00 Sense: 11 (0x0B) = 0x00 26 (0x1A) = 0x00 Sense: 12 (0x0C) = 0x00 27 (0x1B) = 0x00 Sense: 13 (0x0D) = 0x00 28 (0x1C) = 0x00 Sense: 14 (0x0E) = 0x00 29 (0x1D) = 0x00, I would assume that we have some sort of SCSI problem such as sending the wrong requests to the scanner. We do get images but they're like the images you see on an old television that isn't in horizontal sync. The images are sliced and not recognizable. Someone posted recently that there is a driver called ScanOmatic that will handle the UMAX scanners as well as several others. I don't have the URL handy now. -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison ted.allen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: trying to size ups for a cube..... Date: 31 May 1997 18:55:11 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: <19970531185501.OAA16013@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <338F1667.3BF9@issl.atl.hp.com> I am looking at getting a ups for my cube and I am trying to get an idea on what size to get. For those of you who have your cube on a ups, what size did you end up getting? (and are you happy with the one you purchased or do you think you should have gotten a bigger one?) dont know your configuration, but at http://www.exide.com they have a sizing tool. not that i am or am not recommending. but 300va is 99 700 va is $390 1500 standby $500 trueonline $790 ball parks bigger the ups the more the battery time regularly ups cost should reflect the cost of what it is protecting/data /cost/ of hardware lastly, is it mission critical UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.izzy.net!inet-prime.comshare.com!not-for-mail From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faxing on NextStep Intel with USR Sportster 36.6k Date: 31 May 1997 19:02:24 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5mpsk0$lp9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <5lrd09$k33@sun.sirius.com> Reply-To: alanf@izzy.net NNTP-Posting-Host: blackbird.comshare.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: ngervae@sirius.com Check out Olaf Mueller's OlafAM (at Peak, Peanuts FTP sites), a fax and answering machine solution for NeXTStep. It works with ZyXEL's, but I've read he's working on supporting other modems. Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) In <5lrd09$k33@sun.sirius.com> ngervae@sirius.com wrote: > Does anybody have any news or experiences on how to fax from NextStep > Intel? I have a USR Sportster 36.6k modem, and the only driver > software I've come across is Jolly's Class 2 Fax, which doesn't work. > Any help is appreciated. Please reply BY EMAIL. > > ---- > Nik Gervae, Technical Writer, San Francisco > ngervae@sirius.com > > #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: oklahoma special effects Message-ID: <5mm1us$l8o@news2.cais.com> From: steve edwards Date: 30 May 1997 08:09:00 GMT Organization: tulsa stage lighting NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.137.185.136 Lines: 3 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!gridnntp1!summer.Opus1.COM!opus1.com!sen.ca.gov!in1.nntp.cais.net!news2.cais.com!news thanks for your intrest. as many of you know we supply fog, smoke, bubble, snow, strobe. black light, and other equipment to millitary, government, stage, and theatrical productions. if i can help you with any special effect let me know... we also stock high power lamps from 500w to 20,000w ( new meaning to night lights) thanx steve #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpax!klui From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faded streaks on NeXT Laser Printer Date: 31 May 1997 21:08:58 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5mq41a$pcj$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5mld41$lt0$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cup44ux.cup.hp.com In article <5mld41$lt0$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu>, L e e Altenberg wrote: > The PrinterWorks said the problem was the cartridge. Probably right. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Enterprise Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!ciril.fr!univ-lille1.fr!jussieu.fr!not-for-mail From:  parrenne@venus.ecoledoc.ibp.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer for NeXT Date: 31 May 1997 22:20:26 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5mq87a$rim$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp1.ecoledoc.ibp.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hello, Can i connect an LaserWriter on my "pizza box" 6840 NeXtStation, with an Apple cable minidin<->minidin: on the printer -> AppleTalk (mini-8-din) on the NeXT -> Serial port A or B. Thanks. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Next cube ROM settings .. HELP Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:45:49 GMT References: <338f7752.604209@news.west.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 19 In article <338f7752.604209@news.west.net>, Russ wrote: >I recently lost my battery on my Next cube and as a result lost all >ROM settings. I have no documentation on the system and I need >guidance resetting them to boot from my SCSI HD. How do I get into >the "bios?" ? Keyboard input during boot?? Just after "Testing System" goes away and "Loading from Disk" (or from Network or whatever) appears, press right Command-` (the one on the numeric keypad above 7.) This will get you to the ROM monitor. You can then use the "p" command to set various things. You'd want the boot command to be "sd". -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.pagesat.net!news.cerf.net!news.cccd.edu!news.cccd.edu!not-for-mail From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will NeXT CD-ROM (SCSI) work on an Intel P100 machine? Date: 31 May 1997 20:12:06 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, California Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5mqpa6$mva$1@spock.dis.cccd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: spock.dis.cccd.edu I'm trying to load NS 3.2 for Intel on my P100 throw together. I've got 32 meg RAM, disconnected 2.3 gig IDE HD, 1.6 gig SCSI hard drive (address 0), and a NeXT single speed CD-ROM (Sony CDU-451(?)). The SCSI devices are hooked up to a Jazz Jet card from Iomega (Adaptec OEM AHA-4140 (?). I'm not sure about the model number but the Iomega card is bootable. My bios loads and recognizes both SCSI devices but I hang shortly after. The SCSI HD needs to be formatted. Do I have to have DOS on it to load from my NeXT floppy? I tried getting to the HD from Win95 but Explorer won't recognize it. The CD-ROM takes up drive d: but will not read. Also, the SCSI card says the hd is assigned to D:. Apparently both SCSI devices are assigned to D:. I am confused a bit. Any pointers to an FAQ? References would be appreciated. Thanks. Maurices #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ott.istar!n1tor.istar!news.istar.net!n2tor.istar!n3tor.istar!n4tor.istar!tor.istar!east.istar!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <12797864532834@digifix.com> Date: 1 Jun 1997 03:57:29 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <26791865137630@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:70429 comp.sys.next.announce:4227 comp.sys.next.hardware:29119 comp.sys.next.software:29792 comp.sys.next.misc:26030 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26935 comp.sys.next.bugs:4343 comp.sys.next.programmer:24676 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!168.143.0.2!news.clark.net!noos.hooked.net!news.hooked.net!not-for-mail From: fghhg@usa.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FREE SOFTWARE Date: 30 May 1997 19:55:33 GMT Organization: The CYBERgroup, LTD Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5mnbbl$7so$1@its.hooked.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust10.max32.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net ------------------>>>>> FREE GIFTS!! -------------------->>>>>>>> FREE GIFTS!!! Come visit our WEB SITE & Receive $99.00 worth of FREE GIFTS! http://www.cyberbundle.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5mnbbl$7so$1@its.hooked.net> Date: 1 Jun 1997 16:20:54 GMT Control: cancel <5mnbbl$7so$1@its.hooked.net> Message-ID: Sender: fghhg@usa.net X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.alt.net!newspost1.alt.net!NewsWatcher!user From: lance@chimp.org (Lancelot Link) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT MegaPixel 17" -> Macintosh Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 16:25:10 -0500 Organization: Secret Chimp Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3fc3 In article , Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de wrote: > > I'd like to hook a MegaPixel 17" to a Mac; does anyone have a pointer > > to, say, a company that makes an adapter? > > > The monochrome NeXT monitor has no own power supply. It can't be operated > apart from the NeXT system unit. My fault--I should have specified that it's the color monitor, model N4001, which has a switchable power-in and a fuse socket. So: Does anyone make a NeXt-Mac monitor cable adapter? Thanks again. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Printer for NeXT Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5mq87a$rim$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:38:09 GMT Lines: 24 In article <5mq87a$rim$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr>  parrenne@venus.ecoledoc.ibp.fr writes: > Hello, > Can i connect an LaserWriter on my "pizza box" 6840 NeXtStation, > with an Apple cable minidin<->minidin: > on the printer -> AppleTalk (mini-8-din) > on the NeXT -> Serial port A or B. > No, pinout is slightly different. You need a custom cable. Refer to the manpage on 'zs' for the actual pinout of black hardware. And the AppleTalk input of the Printer won't do either. You'd have to connect to the serial input. As a consequence the transfer of data would be about four times slower! Conclusion: can be done, but needs a soldering iron and a good knowledge of the serial line protocol. A strong set of neves would be helpful, also ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news1.best.com!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tweaking Intel display performance... Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 20:24:45 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 32 Message-ID: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat I am wondering what I can do (if anything) to improve my display performance under 4.1... I'm using a Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM with a Matrox Millenium with 4MB VRAM (PCI) Configure.app shows 'Matrox MGA2064W' under 'Display' DMA channel = none Port address = none Mapped Memory = none Display mode: Height 864 Width 1152 Refresh 90MHz Colorspace: RGB 888/32 PCI location Dev:18 Func0 Bus:0 I don't know what other sys info might be helpful..... Just want to make things as 'tweaked' as possible.... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.visi.net!grouper.exis.net!not-for-mail From: "Jeffrey S. Flowers" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster 16 PnP Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 06:46:00 +0100 Organization: EYE Productions Lines: 14 Message-ID: <33925E18.8FB8753F@exis.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-2-44.exis.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I installed NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a Micron Millenia Pro2 with an intergrated SB16 and NS can't see it. I'm using the lated drivers from the NeXT Answers section of NeXT's website. I do have PnP enabled through the EISA driver and I am using a SB16 PnP driver. I have tried both 8bit and 16 bit versions . The sound card does function properly under WIN95. Thanks, ----------------- Jeffrey S. Flowers dagdagh@exis.net There is no freedom without freedom of speech. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!not-for-mail From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Date: 2 Jun 1997 10:54:55 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Lines: 36 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5mu8pv$fof$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Reply-To: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de In article <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Ben Pfaff writes: > Does anyone know the color coding of power supply wires? Does anyone > know how the power supply can be convinced to `turn on' when it's not > connected to a NeXT computer-monitor-keyboard-power key? I guess what > I'm asking is, how does one test a NeXT power supply? Yes. Yes. And Yes! :-) As pointed out before, look at my WWW site: http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html There are pin-outs (in color!) of the power supply plug, repair instructions (if you are highly technically inclined), instructions on how to test the power supply without a NeXT attached to it, pointers to various sources of replacement power supplies, and even instructions on how to convert a PC power supply for a NeXT (I did it and mine is running without problems for quite a while now). I think this page should answer all your questions stated above. If you have any additional information that you think should be included on my page, just send me mail and let me know! Good luck! helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tweaking Intel display performance... Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 07:37:49 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) luomat@peak.org,UseNet writes: >I am wondering what I can do (if anything) to improve my display >performance under 4.1... >I'm using a Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM with a Matrox Millenium with 4MB= >VRAM (PCI) >Configure.app shows 'Matrox MGA2064W' under 'Display' >DMA channel =3D none >Port address =3D none >Mapped Memory =3D none >Display mode: Height 864 Width 1152 Refresh 90MHz >Colorspace: RGB 888/32 >PCI location Dev:18 Func0 Bus:0 >I don't know what other sys info might be helpful..... = If that's a PentiumPro box, then you _definitely_ want to pick up the Omn= i PentiumPro video driver. That made a HUGE difference in the performance= of my machine. It's free and on their web site. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!serv.hinet.net!netnews.hinet.net!news From: Lee Younggab Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: (Q)How can I use my PCMCIA modem on my NS3.3? Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 12:20:29 +0800 Organization: Hukou, TAIWAN Lines: 7 Message-ID: <33924A0D.19E442CD@ms13.hinet.net> Reply-To: ds1dat@ms13.hinet.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.95.188.172 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Please help me!! My PCMCIA modem is recognized by NS 3.3, but how can I link it to ppp2.2? Thanks Gabriel Lee (ds1dat@ms13.hinet.net) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ncar!uchinews!news From: jonl@absolut.foo.net (Jonathan B. Leffert) Subject: adb X-Nntp-Posting-Host: pierce-36.rh.uchicago.edu Message-ID: <8767vxcdjr.fsf@absolut.foo.net> Lines: 10 Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.2.25/XEmacs 19.14 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:58:00 GMT I don't understand the difference between ADB and non-ADB. What systems used which? What are the advantages of each? Also, how do I know if a system is ADB or non-ADB? Jon --- Jonathan B. Leffert "But on the serious three-and-a-half percent tip, 'B' is the second letter of the English Alphabet. You work it out." - Tone Def, "Fear of a Black Hat" finger -l leffert@cs.uchicago.edu for PGP public key #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: Ben Pfaff Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Date: 02 Jun 1997 10:14:14 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 22 Sender: blp@thorin Message-ID: <87rael2itl.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> References: <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> <5mu8pv$fof$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm245-24.dialip.mich.net X-AUTHid: pfaff X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) writes: > > In article <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Ben Pfaff > writes: > > Does anyone know the color coding of power supply wires? Does anyone > > know how the power supply can be convinced to `turn on' when it's not > > connected to a NeXT computer-monitor-keyboard-power key? I guess what > > I'm asking is, how does one test a NeXT power supply? > > Yes. Yes. And Yes! :-) > As pointed out before, look at my WWW site: > > http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html [...] Thanks for the reply. And thanks to everyone else for their suggestions. I have now ordered a replacement power supply from Deep Space Technology and I anxiously await its arrival. -- Ben Pfaff 12167 Airport Rd, DeWitt MI 48820, USA *Note*: New PGP key available at http://www.msu.edu/user/pfaffben/pgp.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: finton (David J. Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Can I use a trackball on a non-ADB turbocolor NeXT? Date: 2 Jun 1997 19:16:59 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5mv67b$kt0@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5mpnk9$dbm@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Reply-To: finton@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f182-167.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org In Peter Nitezki wrote: > In article <5mpnk9$dbm@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David > Finton) writes: > > I have a non-ADB NeXT TurboColor, and am using a Logitech bus > > mouse on it. I was wondering if there are any trackball devices > > which would work with the converter which came with the Logitech? > > > Any trackball that is Microsoft Bus Mouse compatible would fall in this > class. Can you give me any examples? I've seen trackballs at Best Buy, and I don't remember any of them having the word "bus" on the packaging. Neither did any of the selections when I just connected to WWW pages for Logitech and Kensington. Thanks, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dti.ad.jp!news-jp-0.abone.net!np1.iij.ad.jp!wnoc-tyo-news!wnoc-sfc-news!sfc-keio-news!penrose From: penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Penrose Christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Disktab entry not recognized!! Date: 01 Jun 1997 13:47:32 GMT Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus, Kanagawa Japan Lines: 72 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ccs01.sfc.keio.ac.jp Howdy Folks! I have a Pentium system running Openstep 4.1. I have an Adaptec 2940UW scsi adaptor installed, though currently my system runs from an ide disk. I am attempting to install a QUANTUM ATLAS II XP39100W drive. I have installed the latest Adaptec 2940 driver (3.37) which supports wide disks. I have SCOURED the NeXTanswers guide for installing big disks (#1533), having created a disktab entry (see below). NeXTanswers instructed me to generate a disktab entry for this disk, and then write a new disk label to the disk using the /usr/etc/disk command. Specficially: elvis# /usr/etc/disk -t xp39100s -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: xp39100s : unknown disk type As you will see in the disktab entry, this title, xp39100s, is present. I have tried absurd types like this: disk -t BONDAGELILLY -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: BONDAGELILLY disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1778120 76 20 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 10990 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 280 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 1778120 sectors in 1170 cylinders of 20 tracks, 76 sectors 1820.8Mb in 74 cyl groups (16 c/g, 24.90Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at:write error: 32 wtfs: Invalid argument /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) And you notice that disk just creates its own label, as BONDAGELILLY is not in the disktab. So, this does tell me that disk is finding my entry. Perhaps there is a subtle error in my disktab? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Christopher Penrose penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp The disktab entry: xp39100s|XP39100S-512|QUANTUM XP39100W LXY4:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#5899:nt#20:ns#152:ss#512:rm#7200:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#4092900:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#4092900:sb#4092900:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#5:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD:\ :pc#8185800:sc#4092900:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#32:dc#4096:rc#5:oc=time:\ :ic:tc=4.3BSD:\ :pd#12278700:sd#4092900:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#32:dd#4096:rd#5:od=time:\ :id:td=4.3BSD:\ :pe#16371600:se#1409599:be#8192:fe#1024:ce#32:de#4096:re#5:oe=time:\ :ie:te=4.3BSD: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: jweiss@MCS.COM (Jerry S. Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster 16 PnP Date: 2 Jun 1997 16:26:58 -0500 Organization: MCSNet, Chicagoland's finest Internet provider - 312-803-6271 Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5mvdr2$5cj$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <33925E18.8FB8753F@exis.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.mcs.net In article <33925E18.8FB8753F@exis.net>, Jeffrey S. Flowers wrote: >I installed NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a Micron Millenia Pro2 with an intergrated >SB16 and NS can't see it. I'm using the lated drivers from the NeXT >Answers section of NeXT's website. I do have PnP enabled through the >EISA driver and I am using a SB16 PnP driver. I have tried both 8bit and >16 bit versions . > >The sound card does function properly under WIN95. > I picked up an SB16pnp card the other day that turned out to be an OEM version. It wouldn't work at first under Nextstep either. What I did was do a verbose (non-GUI) boot and noted the registration number for the card during boot up. Then I when into hostconfig, chose the SB-pnp driver, switched to expert mode then added the number to the one already listed as supported. Save the configuration and rebooted and it seems to work fine for me. Your mileage may vary, use at your own risk. Jerry jweiss@mcs.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news1.best.com!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: adb Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:55:30 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <8767vxcdjr.fsf@absolut.foo.net> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu In-Reply-To: <8767vxcdjr.fsf@absolut.foo.net> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat This is quite an FAQ ... ADB is AppleDesktopBus meaning you can switch other ADB stuff... ADB can be recognized by the command 'bar' under the spacebar rather than two command keys search www.dejanews.com on this topic for more info TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Disktab entry not recognized!! Date: 2 Jun 1997 22:07:09 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <19970602220701.SAA01048@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: distab labels are case sensitive, space senitive, and underline senitive. also go to the control a function in the adaptec to make sure of the drive setup. we sell the quantum for $1530, and find it to work fine as a drive, but it must be low level formatted first by the adaptec. UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!mascagni2.pfizer.com!tranh@pfizer.com From: carlier@pfizer.com (Claude Carlier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any 3.5" Optical Drive known to work with Sparc 5 and OpenStep? Date: 2 Jun 1997 22:11:35 GMT Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5mvgen$33h1@mascagni.pfizer.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gcsun05.pfizer.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(s) Hi Folks, does anyone know if any of the 640 MB 3.5" optical drives will work on a Sparc 5-110 running Openstep? My Pinnacle Tahoe 128 does not work. Please reply via e-mail. Thanks, Claude Carlier carlier@pfizer.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT MegaPixel 17" -> Macintosh Date: 2 Jun 1997 22:07:39 GMT Lines: 7 Message-ID: <19970602220700.SAA01110@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: we have a 13w3 to vga, 13w3 to13w3, 4bnc to 13w3 and 4 bnc to vga convertor if that helps UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!news.u.washington.edu!saul1.u.washington.edu!kjaeros From: Ray Stricklin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ethernet transfer difficulties Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:56:46 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Lines: 35 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: saul1.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros Predicate: Whose triangle is it? X-use-a-newsreader-for-news: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29138 comp.sys.next.software:29825 I'm having a bit of difficulty using NFS between my NeXTcube and a NS 486. I have a tonne of data on OD I'd like to archive to the hard disk on the 486. Pulling all other ethernet connexions from the hub and leaving just the cube and 486 on the subnet, I get a packet every few seconds at the hub. The transfer takes hours. (>36 hrs to transfer less than 100 MB of data). This is unacceptable; I have twenty or thirty ODs to go through. FTP results in similar performance. The very first bit of the transfer (say, the first 100k) goes through at a normal rate, and then slows down to one flash of the packet indicator on the hub every few seconds for the remainder. I find this odd, because NXhosting apps between the two works at normal ethernet speeds, and the packet indicator flashes as in normal traffic. It seems to make no difference which machine is the one doing the exporting or importing; I've tried both ways. Importing from the 486 results in countless 'NFS server raskolnikov not responding' 'NFS server raskolnikov ok' messages to the console on the cube. I get no messages when importing from the cube, but performance is the same. raskolnikov is an i486-66, 64M/2G, NS 3.3 obelix is an 040 cube, 12M/2G, NS 3.3 Total loss; I don't understand. I hope someone can help me out. ok -r #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!news.clark.net!usenet From: Mike Harris Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz with Black HW Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 09:09:45 -0700 Organization: booknet/rmharris_ltd Lines: 14 Message-ID: <339441C9.3C92@rmharris.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: booknet.clark.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) CC: booknet@rmharris.com Before I go experimenting, does anyone have experience with operating a Jaz drive with a Cube or other Black hardware? How about as the boot disk (similar to the optical disk before it died)? I am currently running a Zip as an auxilary drive and sneaker net with no problems. (please cc your reply direct to me also, since I check this list rather sporadically. Thanks.) -- ************************************************************************ *** Mike Harris booknet/rmharris_ltd phone: (301) 494-0950 (410) 535-2292 fax: (410) 535-3004 e-mail: booknet@rmharris.com, r.m.harris@ieee.org, rmharris@clark.net ** http://www.abaa-booknet.com/ http://booknet-international.com ** ** The Antiquarian Booksellers Web Sites ** stuff(spam) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!not-for-mail From: dyaeb@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (David Aston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! NS3.3/OS4.1 will not install on new Sparc 5 Date: 3 Jun 1997 21:12:38 GMT Organization: Stanford University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5n21c6$i92$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kmeson.slac.stanford.edu In article dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > NeXTSTEP/SPARC (and OS/SPARC too) support only the MicroSPARC II and > SuperSPARC CPUs. > Thanks for your response. Since the page was old (dated June '95), I was _hoping_ that this was not the problem. However, I have a reply from NextAnswers confirming that the TurboSPARC CPU is not and will not be supported. I guess I'll have to wait for Rhapsody... PS: Anyone want to swap an old Sparc 5 for a new one? *;-) PPS: In case you missed the smiley, this is not a serious offer. -- Dave Aston......Internet: dyaeb@slac.stanford.edu; BitNet: RIP *8-( MS62 Voice: (415)926-2457; Fax: (415)926-3587 SLAC, Stanford U, and DOE are not responsible for _anything_ I say. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: "Kyle Rollin" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: test Date: 4 Jun 1997 01:08:03 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 1 Message-ID: <01bc7082$030a5740$c5650e26@therolli> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip222.moorestown.nj.pub-ip.psi.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 anybody get this? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Turn a Mono 040/25 Cube into a color system ? Date: 3 Jun 1997 21:40:50 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5n2rki$e9h@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Is it possible to add a card to a Mono NeXT 040/25 into a color system by adding an additonal card in one of the motherboard slots? Are the cards specific to the Cube or can Station cards somehow be used? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MetaResearch still around ? Date: 3 Jun 1997 21:43:54 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5n2rqa$eei@slip.net> References: <5n2rki$e9h@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Is MetaResearch the manufacturer of Digital Eye and Digital Ears still around? How can they be contacted? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!xs4all!tamtam!hugob From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Ethernet transfer difficulties Message-ID: Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Reply-To: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 00:36:02 GMT Lines: 23 In article Ray Stricklin writes: > > I'm having a bit of difficulty using NFS between my NeXTcube and a NS > 486. > > [.......] > > raskolnikov is an i486-66, 64M/2G, NS 3.3 > obelix is an 040 cube, 12M/2G, NS 3.3 > Sounds familiar. If raskolnikov is equipped with a 3-COM board, download the latest drivers from NextAnswers. If it has a 3-COM board, and the new drivers are not fast enough, send me an email. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!news.u.washington.edu!saul1.u.washington.edu!kjaeros From: Ray Stricklin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Finally! Etherlink XL drivers! Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 23:49:16 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: saul1.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros Predicate: Whose triangle is it? X-use-a-newsreader-for-news: In case some of you hadn't noticed, Apple's finally released 3Com EtherLink XL drivers for both 3.3 and 4.x... They are available from NeXTanswers. ok -r #################################################################### Date: 4 Jun 1997 08:42:32 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-by: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: steve edwards Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5mm1us$l8o@news2.cais.com> Control: cancel <5mm1us$l8o@news2.cais.com> X-No-Archive: Yes X-Spam-Type: OKLAHOMA Lines: 7 OKLAHOMA spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: oklahoma special effects Total spams this type to date: 36 Total this spam type for this user: 36 Total this spam type for this user today: 1 Originating site: cais.com Complaint addresses: noc@cais.com abuse@cais.com postmaster@webzone.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!usenet.nerdc.ufl.edu!usenet.ufl.edu!usenet.cise.ufl.edu!leo.circa.ufl.edu!user From: leow@ufl.edu (Leo Wierzbowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NE2000 drvr f/ OpenStep/Mach 4.2??? Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 10:24:19 -0400 Organization: CIRCA - University of Florida Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: leo.circa.ufl.edu Hello, Is there a driver for the NE2000 ISA ethernet card for OpenStep Mach 4.2 (prelude to Rhapsody)? I've found a couple for NextStep 3.x, but I've been told they do not work with OSM 4.2. Sincerely, Leo UF #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!202.82.1.1!bull.hkstar.net!hkstar2!news From: Kim Chen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recommendation : Asus TX-97E or Supermicro P5MMS Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 16:18:24 +0800 Organization: HACTL Lines: 30 Message-ID: <339524D0.4E4A@glink.net.hk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.82.9.65 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Recommendation : Asus TX-97E or Supermicro P5MMS Hi all, I really need a recommendation of motherboard for upgrading my PC. I limited the choice to 2 models : Asus Tx-97E or Supermicro P5MMS The following HWs/OS will be installed into my new system : Cpu : K6-200 RAM : 64Mb 10ns/12ns SDRAM Video card : MGA Millennium II SCSI contrl. : DPT 2042UW Sound card : Audiotrix OS : NT4.0/Solaris x86 2.5.1/NextStep 3.3 In addition, I hope I can run the system at 75Mhz/ext. , or even 83.3Mhz/ext. . Could anyone have good/bad experience on these motherboard and/or with above HW/OS ? Please advice me. Thanks a lot. regards, Kim #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turn a Mono 040/25 Cube into a color system ? Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 04:38:09 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <5n2rki$e9h@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) emclean@slip.net,UseNet writes: >Is it possible to add a card to a Mono NeXT 040/25 into >a color system by adding an additonal card in one of >the motherboard slots? Yes, by purchasing a NextDimension color card. They are available from se= veral of the used black hardware vendors for about $500-600 and in most c= ases will require additional memory to be really useful. The quality of t= he resulting image is truly amazing. >Are the cards specific to the Cube or can Station >cards somehow be used? Yes, they are specific to the cube. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: speaking of mono cubes... Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 07:34:23 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) I have a two headed ND Cube (so not strictly a mono system). I leave the = machine running all the time and I can turn off the color monitor, but is= there any way to turn off the mono monitor? Even when I turn the brightn= ess all the way down the screen still glows just a little bit and I'd prefer to save the electricity on t= he monitors at least. I haven't found a power switch so I wonder if there= 's a keyboard combination that does this. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: 4 Jun 1997 12:40:46 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] David Herren (herren@flannet.middlebury.edu) wrote: > I have a two headed ND Cube (so not strictly a mono system). I leave the = > machine running all the time and I can turn off the color monitor, but is= > there any way to turn off the mono monitor? Even when I turn the brightn= > ess all the way down the screen > still glows just a little bit and I'd prefer to save the electricity on t= > he monitors at least. I haven't found a power switch so I wonder if there= > 's a keyboard combination that does this. The only option is getting a Sound box. I think deepspacetech.com had a few the last time I looked. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 09:44:14 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) >> I have a two headed ND Cube (so not strictly a mono system). I leave t= he =3D >> machine running all the time and I can turn off the color monitor, but= is=3D >> there any way to turn off the mono monitor? Even when I turn the brig= htn=3D >> ess all the way down the screen >> still glows just a little bit and I'd prefer to save the electricity o= n t=3D >> he monitors at least. I haven't found a power switch so I wonder if th= ere=3D >> 's a keyboard combination that does this. >The only option is getting a Sound box. I think deepspacetech.com >had a few the last time I looked. How does this help if I still want to use the mono monitor in the two-hea= ded configuration? Does the mono monitor plug into a sound box and the so= und box have a power switch? (obviously I've never seen a soundbox) -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!btnet!btnet-feed3!unlisys!cs.tu-berlin.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!news.uni-mainz.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: 4 Jun 1997 15:07:55 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5n40cb$su5$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] David Herren (herren@flannet.middlebury.edu) wrote: > How does this help if I still want to use the mono monitor in the two-hea= > ded configuration? Does the mono monitor plug into a sound box and the so= > und box have a power switch? (obviously I've never seen a soundbox) Sorry, should have been more specific. If you take a closer look at your setup, you'll notice that the keyboard plugs into the monitor - the Megapixel display contains, besides the normal video hardware, some circuitry that handles the keyboard, plays sounds etc. Hence, while you can _run_ a Cube sans monitor, you will also lose the ability to use your keyboard, which you'd probably be quite a bit unhappy with. :-) A sound box, however, contains the exact same hardware. You can therefore attach the keyboard to the sound box and get a "color monitor only" configuration for the cube. Personally, I prefer it that way, since it saves deskspace. Kind regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!jupiter.nic.dtag.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!linteuto.teuto.de!grape From: grape@matrix.teuto.de (Timo Hoepfner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Finally! Etherlink XL drivers! Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 18:30:09 +0200 Organization: PoP teuto.net Bielefeld Lines: 16 Message-ID: <19970604183009529239@[192.168.0.2]> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: matrix.teuto.de X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2 Ray Stricklin wrote: > In case some of you hadn't noticed, Apple's finally released 3Com > EtherLink XL drivers for both 3.3 and 4.x... > > They are available from NeXTanswers. > Unfortunately they don't work with a 3com Etherlink III PCI. Seems there will be no driver for it anytime soon... :-(((( Bye Timo --- Timo Hoepfner - grape@matrix.teuto.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!242.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 13:20:57 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.50.242 > > > How does this help if I still want to use the mono monitor in the two-hea= > ded configuration? Does the mono monitor plug into a sound box and the so= > und box have a power switch? (obviously I've never seen a soundbox) > > How can you have a dual headed ND configuration without a soundbox? Is there a way to do this? Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.45.255.100!coop.net!cs.umd.edu!hecate.umd.edu!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: 4 Jun 1997 12:37:11 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5n45jn$kcg@umbc10.umbc.edu> References: <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc10.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: bhurle1 what does a sound box have to do with turning off the monitor? interested myself. bryan In article <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de>, Christian Neuss wrote: >David Herren (herren@flannet.middlebury.edu) wrote: >> I have a two headed ND Cube (so not strictly a mono system). I leave the = >> machine running all the time and I can turn off the color monitor, but is= >> there any way to turn off the mono monitor? Even when I turn the brightn= >> ess all the way down the screen >> still glows just a little bit and I'd prefer to save the electricity on t= >> he monitors at least. I haven't found a power switch so I wonder if there= >> 's a keyboard combination that does this. > >The only option is getting a Sound box. I think deepspacetech.com >had a few the last time I looked. > >HTH, Chris >-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uuneo.neosoft.com!not-for-mail From: Buddy Cox Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 14:17:21 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3395BF41.45F1@ibm.net> References: <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.109.153.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) > How can you have a dual headed ND configuration without a soundbox? Is > there a way to do this? > > Mitch The mono monitor takes the place of the sound box. Color monitor goes into the ND, mono monitor into the 040 and the keyboard into the mono monitor and that's all there is to it. Buddy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT MegaPixel 17" -> Macintosh Date: 1 Jun 1997 21:36:20 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5msq0k$2f2$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] if it is color you have to make sure that your card supplies green-in-sync godwin Lancelot Link (lance@chimp.org) wrote: : In article , Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de wrote: : > > I'd like to hook a MegaPixel 17" to a Mac; does anyone have a pointer : > > to, say, a company that makes an adapter? : > > : > The monochrome NeXT monitor has no own power supply. It can't be operated : > apart from the NeXT system unit. : My fault--I should have specified that it's the color monitor, model : N4001, which has a switchable power-in and a fuse socket. So: Does anyone : make a NeXt-Mac monitor cable adapter? : Thanks again. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: 4 Jun 1997 14:11:27 -0700 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 31 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5n4llv$38v@mpaque.mpaque> References: Reply-To: mpaque@apple.com NNTP-Posting-Host: serpens178.wco.com In article mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: > How can you have a dual headed ND configuration without a soundbox? Is > there a way to do this? If one of the 'heads', or monitors, is a monochrome NeXT monitor, this will work just fine. The monitor includes the same hardware found in the Sound Box, along with the CRT and video electronics. By default, the ND system will be using the color head only. You can switch on the monochrome display using the Preferences app. Click on the Monitors Preferences (looks like two overlapping monitors, only appears on Cube hardware). Click on the MegaPixel Display item, set it to 'active', and adjust your screen layout. I recommend using the ND as the main display (settable by dragging the 'login window' icon to the appropriate display). You'll need to restart the Window Server (reboot the machine is good enough) before the changes take effect. (Mac folks: this won't be needed for Rhapsody.) -- Mike Paquette (mpaque@wco.com) Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!imaginet.fr!usenet From: Gael Foulon Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: UPS with native support for NextStep ? Date: 4 Jun 1997 21:51:13 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5n4o0h$kqv@belzebul.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: cyber109-3.paris.imaginet.fr X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29161 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26975 Hello, I'm searching for an UPS product that mention on their ad that they support NextStep. I can't remember when I see it and where I see it (I suppose in France, but it's certainly an world-wide product). I see the document in /pub/next/documents/misc concerning the Fortress UPS but there's I think another one... If someone use or know a product supporting alert and auto-shutdown for PC running OpenStep/NextStep system, please contact me by email. Thank you for your help. Gael FOULON gfoulon@imaginet.fr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!190.cincinnati-001.oh.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: UPS with native support for NextStep ? Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 19:27:10 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <5n4o0h$kqv@belzebul.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.80.190 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29163 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26976 In article <5n4o0h$kqv@belzebul.imaginet.fr>, Gael Foulon wrote: > Hello, > > I'm searching for an UPS product that mention on their ad > that they support NextStep. I can't remember when I see it > and where I see it (I suppose in France, but it's certainly > an world-wide product). > > I see the document in /pub/next/documents/misc concerning > the Fortress UPS but there's I think another one... > > If someone use or know a product supporting alert and > auto-shutdown for PC running OpenStep/NextStep system, > please contact me by email. > > Thank you for your help. > > Gael FOULON > gfoulon@imaginet.fr Check Tim Luoma's page. I know he has something about some NeXT capable UPS on there, but I don't remember the name or if it works on Black or white hardware. www.peak.org/~luomat Mitch e keyboard and mouse. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.241.0.194!news.wwa.com!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: UPS with native support for NextStep ? Date: 4 Jun 1997 23:18:35 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5n4t4b$8mv$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <5n4o0h$kqv@belzebul.imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: vader.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Note: Please include a Follow-up To: if you are going to cross-post. Timothy Luoma has some links to NextStep UPS info from his homepage: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Should get you started. --Ryan Scott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!remarque.berkeley.edu!mbkomor From: mbkomor@remarque.berkeley.edu (m.b.komor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Weird Failure at Boot -- Need help! Date: 4 Jun 1997 22:52:17 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5n4rj1$ib9@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29165 comp.sys.next.bugs:4345 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26978 Please Cc: all replies to . This morning my mon NeXTslab came up just fine, let me PPP in just fine, using Gatekeeper, and then experienced a kernel panic (about its 6th, since I've had it --about 4 months) and produced the following on reboot: Booting from SCSI target 4 lun 0 trap 5 at pc 0x4380b06, sr 0x2700 d0: 0x2000 a0: 0x4387544 d1: 0x2 a1: 0x87ffb72 d2: 0x0 a2: 0x43972c0 d3: 0x200f a3: 0x438a03c d4: 0x2 a4: 0x43972c0 d5: 0x0 a5: 0x87ff62e d6: 0x8 a6: 0x43bbf84 d7: 0x0 a7: 0x43bbf64 And there it dies. Reseating the harddrive scsi cable (at both ends), the ROM, the memory cards, *nothing* has changed this bootup failure (same message, every time). I'm not a NeXT (or any other kind of hardware) geek. John Carmack donated this machine to me four months ago because he didn't want to see it go to waste-- it's the machine he wrote the original DOOM code on, so I'd really hate for it to die like this ('sides, there's a bunch of things on it that I *need* --it's also the only machine I have that's capable of running PPP and a graphical browser at the same time ;) ). Can anybody help me get this fixed? *ThanQ!* Best, _*____* _////___ Meriday Beth & Velcro ~<:========--- & Majyk! >'=========^--- ~*~~~~* ~/~\~~>~> ---- -& little Zaphod! | | | | click here for in-lined image. ---- mbkomor@remarque.berkeley.edu | @goonsquad.spies.com & gneet@toys.fubarsys.com indigo@samsara.circus.com & umm@deeptht.armory.com & natter@nando.yak.net ambasadr@kosh.punk.net & little@reddragon.empire.net & hi@callamerica.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: UPS with native support for NextStep ? Date: 4 Jun 1997 23:49:28 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <19970604234901.TAA11959@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5n4o0h$kqv@belzebul.imaginet.fr> check out the following: http://www.exide.com http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar http://www.powersource.net http://www.apcc.com http://www.upsi.com http://www.viewsonics.com http://www.sechq.com if we or they have it you will find it . these are the industry leaders. in ups UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ns15.wwisp.com!not-for-mail From: feetweb@juno.com (George Karadimos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RAM for Sale!! Good prices on memory! Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 12:13:17 GMT Organization: World Web Internet Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3396ad56.90878907@news.wwisp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm30a-ppp11.wwisp.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 I have used (good) RAM for sale.Tons of it! All 72 pin SIMMS. 4 megabyte chips = $20 each. 8 megabyte chips = $30 each. 16 megabyte chips = $60 each. E-mail me if you're interested. thanks. feetweb@juno.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: 4 Jun 1997 20:27:00 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5n514k$27g@umbc10.umbc.edu> References: <3395BF41.45F1@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc10.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: bhurle1 So if you get a soundbox and attach it to the dsp port, can you make a one board cube, no NextDimension board, and attach a second b/w monitor? bryan In article , wrote: >Duh, I guess it had never occurred to me that someone might buy a NeXT >Cube, then add a dimension and a color monitor and not purchase a >soundbox. I had gotten a cube that had the ND with it when it came, but >didn't come with a mono monitor, so naturally it had a soundbox. > >I was just curious if some color NeXT monitors don't require a soundbox in >order to connect the keyboard and mouse. > >Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: UPS with native support for NextStep ? Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 17:57:25 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <5n4o0h$kqv@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Gael Foulon In-Reply-To: <5n4o0h$kqv@belzebul.imaginet.fr> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat You are looking for PowerGuardian from Benatong... Click on the icon from my web page or checkout www.benatong.com They are a great company, I highly recommend them & PowerGuardian Email info@benatong.com too.... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Mr. Kawasaki Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone have problems with Dialup.app Date: 5 Jun 1997 04:32:33 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5n5fh1$oj0@camel2.mindspring.com> Reply-To: cybobob@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip91.leesburg.va.pub-ip.psi.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.0.2 Beta(i) Sometimes (not too often), after clicking "Connect" in Dialup.app, OPENSTEP 4.1 for Intel will simply freeze. I am forced to press the reset button. Of my experience with OPENSTEP, these are the only times where I have had any real problems. Has anyone else had this problem? BTW, I have a USR Sportster 28800 and I think this problem happens after I Disconnect, then Connect again before rebooting (not sure). -- Later, Nick Sharpe E-Mail me at Cybobob@mindspring.com NeXTMail Welcome #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!btnet!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!leffert From: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu (Jonathan B. Leffert) Subject: sticky mice? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: jordan.cs.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #4 (NOV) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 07:26:09 GMT Lines: 10 My mouse seems to be kinda sitcky (ie the cursor stops at times and i cannot move it). Does anyone have any good suggestions as to how to clean it? -j -- Jonathan B. Leffert "But on the serious 3.5% tip, 'B' is the second letter of the English Alphabet. You work it out." -- Tone Def, "Fear of a Black Hat" finger -l leffert@cs.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 07:40:08 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net,UseNet writes: >How can you have a dual headed ND configuration without a soundbox? Is >there a way to do this? Actually that's the "normal" way to do it. The mono monitor plugs into th= e cube motherboard's monitor connector and the color monitor plugs into t= he NextDimension. Voila! -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.voicenet.com!not-for-mail From: David Carpenter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: optical drives for Cube Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 08:39:46 -0400 Organization: none Lines: 12 Message-ID: <3396B392.21E@voicenet.com> Reply-To: dcarpent@voicenet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: phila71-pri.voicenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Can anyone recommend a good optical backup system that works with a Cube and NeXTStep? The old, original optical drive as died, and I need a new backup system. A tape drive would be another possibility, though I would prefer an optical system. Thanks in advance for any pointers. Please reply via email to dcarpent@sju.edu Thanks again, David Carpenter #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: sticky mice? Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 05:53:37 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: "Jonathan B. Leffert" In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Jonathan B. Leffert wrote: > My mouse seems to be kinda sitcky (ie the cursor stops at times and i > cannot move it). Does anyone have any good suggestions as to how to clean > it? I assume you mean a NeXT mouse? Caring for your Mouse Should tell you all you need to know... I've also had good luck with a mouse cleaner (where you put a small ball covered in something like velcro inside and swirl it around.... does a very nice job of getting the guck out..... TjL, using a TrackBall now ;-) -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!scanner.worldgate.com!not-for-mail From: garmstro@worldgate.com (Glen W. Armstrong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: swapdisk failure: how do I tell my NeXT to ignore its internal drive? Date: 5 Jun 1997 02:27:50 GMT Organization: WorldGate Inc. http://www.worldgate.com/ Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5n5877$h4i$1@scanner.worldgate.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: isdn-pool2-28.worldgate.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-20004-01 Hello, I have a NeXTstation running NEXTSTEP 3.2 with an external hard drive and the old 105 MB internal drive. The internal drive was set up as my swap disk, but it appears to have failed (sigh). The computer now seems to be spending most of its time trying to overcome the failure of the internal drive. It tells me sd1 (1,0): sense key:0x4 additional sense code:0x1 SCSI Bolock in error=0 (no valid label) Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block OH retry ... (and so on) In my perfect world, I would like to salvage the internal drive, but I realize that that hope might be futile. I would appreciate any hints howerver. Barring that, does anyone have a suggestion on how to tell the NeXT to ignore the internal drive. A software solution is preferable, but I am willing to take a screwdriver to the old workhorse. Thanks for any advice you can give me. --glen -- Glen W. Armstrong email: garmstro@worldgate.com Edmonton, Alberta phone: (403)437-4932 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!neuss From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: swapdisk failure: how do I tell my NeXT to ignore its internal drive? Date: 5 Jun 1997 13:57:17 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5n6gjt$5t6$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5n5877$h4i$1@scanner.worldgate.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Glen W. Armstrong (garmstro@worldgate.com) wrote: > I have a NeXTstation running NEXTSTEP 3.2 with an external hard drive > and the old 105 MB internal drive. > The internal drive was set up as my swap disk, but it appears to have > failed (sigh). If speed is an issue, this might not be the optimal setup, since the original 105ers are quite a bit slower then modern disks. Just thought I'd mention this... > sd1 (1,0): sense key:0x4 additional sense code:0x1 > SCSI Bolock in error=0 (no valid label) > Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block OH retry ... (and so on) Hm, round up the ususal suspects.. check the cabling etc. Perhaps try the disk with a different machine. > Barring that, does anyone have a suggestion on how to tell the NeXT to > ignore the internal drive. A software solution is preferable, but I > am willing to take a screwdriver to the old workhorse. Simply remove it, together with the cable. Make sure the external disk provides TERMPWR. A station runs fine w/out an internal disk. Will be quiter, too. ;-) Good luck. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!infobhan.med.harvard.edu!user From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Floppy drive? Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 09:53:19 -0400 Organization: Harvard Medical School Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: infobhan.med.harvard.edu I have a NeXTCube (25 Mhz 040) and an external Apple CD300e. I've been trying to install OpenSTEP 4.0, but it looks like I'm going to need a floppy drive. Does anyone know where I can get one cheaply for this machine? Thanks. -- Ishir Bhan ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.izzy.net!inet-prime.comshare.com!not-for-mail From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: UPS with native support for NextStep ? Date: 5 Jun 1997 14:17:02 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5n6hou$4ul$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <5n4o0h$kqv@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Reply-To: alanf@izzy.net NNTP-Posting-Host: blackbird.comshare.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29179 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:26982 In mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > In article <5n4o0h$kqv@belzebul.imaginet.fr>, Gael Foulon > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I'm searching for an UPS product that mention on their ad > > that they support NextStep. I can't remember when I see it go to www.benatong.com -Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.gwdg.de!not-for-mail From: Timm Wetzel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: S3Virge driver -- mode switching error Date: 5 Jun 1997 13:46:48 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5n6g08$d4s$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hello, does the S3Virge Driver work for anyone with non-Diamond/non-#9 cards? We try to use it with a Hercules Terminator 3D (NS3.3p1). The driver loads and recognices the card, but after the following error message > Jun 2 20:54:51 calvin mach: Display0: BIOS mode change returned 0300 (preceded by emu486 error and a register dump) the driver stops with a black screen. The selected video mode is supported by the card (e.g., with the S3Generic driver v3.33). Any ideas what this message means and how to work around it? Timm --- Timm Wetzel Max-Planck-Institut fuer biophysikalische Chemie, Abt. 081 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: 5 Jun 1997 11:50:24 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5n6n80$cl6@umbc8.umbc.edu> References: <5n514k$27g@umbc10.umbc.edu> <5n6g7o$5t6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc8.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: unknown OK, so I put the soundbox in between the monitor and the cube? and still have a screen? or not? What does the soundbox do, and then what does the dsp port do? other than hooking up digitial eys/ears or a powerglove? bryan 040 25 20 100 3.2 In article <5n6g7o$5t6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de>, Christian Neuss wrote: >hurley bryan (bhurle1@umbc.edu) wrote: >> So if you get a soundbox and attach it to the dsp port, can you make a one >> board cube, no NextDimension board, and attach a second b/w monitor? > >No. You'd wind up with a no-monitor machine, which should boot >however, hm.. interesting. Please note that the sound box does >not attach to the DSP port, it attaches to the monitor port. > >Since there's only one, and you assume no ND board, you'd not be >able to connect any monitors at all... *not* my favorite setup. :-) > >Regards, Chris >-- >// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." >// http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ >// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ns1.ccinet.net!bohica.dpt.com!news From: salyzyn@dpt.com (Mark Salyzyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:44:10 GMT Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us Lines: 38 Sender: news@bohica.net Message-ID: References: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bsdserver.tek-star.net X-Nntp-Posting-Host: bohica.dpt.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) As I said in a previous posting, I also have the ScanFX driver working under 3.3 and 4.0(beta II). It is as shareware as I'll make it ;-> Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn (who brought you the Mux Driver for 3.2/3.3). ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) wrote: >In article <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> don@globalobjects.com (Don >Yacktman) writes: >> >> Has anyone got experience getting scanners to work under OPENSTEP? What >> software and drivers might be needed? >> > >NeXTStep is sadly deficient for scanner support. Hopefully Rhapsody will >improve the situation. > >Currently there is no standard driver interface :-( > >There are two shareware apps: >"ScanMaker.app is a driver for the Microtek ScanMaker, OmniMedia 6cx (A >ScanMaker 600ZS clone), and the Apple Color OneScanner." > >and "the 0.91b version of "scan", a scanner driver which >supports the UMAX Vista S-8 scanner". This comes with source, and plug in >drivers. I've looked at it briefly and it looks relativly straigh >forwards. > >CAS has software which supports Ricoh4X0, HP Scanjet, Sharp JX10(?), AGFA, >Dunord Improvision, and Dunord Fujitsu. Unfortunatly it's pretty >specialised stuff, and not really very suited to casual scanning (it's >designed for scanning 1000's of animation drawings). It's also expensive >if you just want to put a few images on your web page. > >Your best bet would be to write a new driver for "Scan", unless anyone >knows better? > >$an >(they guy who got dumped with supporting scanners at CAS) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: swapdisk failure: how do I tell my NeXT to ignore its internal drive? Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:21:45 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <5n5877$h4i$1@scanner.worldgate.com> Reply-To: Tim Luoma NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: "Glen W. Armstrong" In-Reply-To: <5n5877$h4i$1@scanner.worldgate.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Caution: use only at your own risk.... If the drive is labelled 'swapdisk' then it is setup during /etc/rc.swap.... you can just comment out the necessary sections or rename the file (ie mv /etc/rc.swap /etc/rc.swap.OFF) If the disk is not loaded as the swapdisk, you should be able to login as root and it will be mounted automatically. Then you can try to reformat the drive or whatever you want to do.... > In my perfect world, I would like to salvage the internal drive, but I > realize that that hope might be futile. I would appreciate any hints > howerver. You could boot into single user mode & try to 'fsck' the disk, or try something like this: dd if=/dev/sd?a of=/dev/null bs=512 # where '?' stands for your swapdisk # that's from memory... basically you tell 'dd' to read from the HD and # write to /dev/null You might have to use '/dev/rsd?a' rather than '/dev/sd?a' That should tell you where any bad blocks are, and then you can try 'reasb' > Barring that, does anyone have a suggestion on how to tell the NeXT to > ignore the internal drive. A software solution is preferable, but I > am willing to take a screwdriver to the old workhorse. I think you will be able to tell it to ignore it long enough to login and see what you can do to it.... My guess is that you've just got a bad block, and should be able to reassign it and keep using the drive for swapspace.... however that is just a guess.... Again, be careful, fsck et al can do damage as well as repair it... as anything that interacts directly with the disk can.... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:57:14 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <5n514k$27g@umbc10.umbc.edu> <5n6g7o$5t6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> <5n6n80$cl6@umbc8.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) bhurle1@umbc.edu,UseNet writes: >OK, so I put the soundbox in between the monitor and the cube? and still= >have a screen? or not? What does the soundbox do, and then what does the= >dsp port do? other than hooking up digitial eys/ears or a powerglove? If you have a mono monitor, then the soundbox is unecessary and perhaps e= ven undesireable. The sound box is essentially for people with a nextdime= nsion board and who only want a single color monitor. If they didn't conn= ect the mono monitor, then they wouldn't have any sound capabilities, or, more importantly, they wouldn't= have a place to plug in their keyboard. The DSP goes unused on my box... -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.cet.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.137.196.68!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: ;laskjfsd;lj@3;asjflksad.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mailloop v3.0 Released! Date: 5 Jun 1997 20:10:47 GMT Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Lines: 63 Message-ID: <5n76g7$v@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-001caglenp14.dialsprint.net Mailloop v3.0 is an industrial strength bulk mailer. Mailloop v3.0 is a bulk mailing program for the internet. It can take a single message and broadcast it to either a listing of e-mail addresses or to a listing of newsgroups. Creates custom newsgroup lists by filtering NNTP servers. Creates custom e-mail lists by extracting them from newsgroups. Can also extract e-mail addresses or newsgroup names from other protocols. Built-in NNTP, SMTP, POP, FTP, HTTP, EXEC, CGI, WHOIS and FINGER clients. Anti-cancelbot feature. Automatically processes remove requests. Includes extensive on-line help. The most powerful bulk mailer available. Requires Windows 95 or NT 3.51+ and internet access. The "Program" Mailloop is only available in English. For more info goto: http://205.199.4.219 http://205.199.4.219 Using it is easy: 1) Create a message ( http://205.199.4.219/editor.htm ) ...by using the pull down menus or ...by using any editor 2) Create a newsgroups list ( http://205.199.4.219/news3.htm ) ...by filtering an NNTP server or ...by importing from any text file or ...by manually creating with any editor or ...by extracting from any FTP file or ...by extracting from any HTTP file 3) Create an e-mail list ( http://205.199.4.219/em3.htm ) ...by extracting from newsgroups or ...by importing from any text file or ...by manually creating with any editor or ...by extracting from a WHOIS response or ...by extracting from a fingering response or ...by extracting from a UNIX response or ...by extracting from any FTP file or ...by extracting from any HTTP file or 4) Broadcast the message ...to the e-mail list or ( http://205.199.4.219/embc.htm ) ...to the newsgroup list ( http://205.199.4.219/ngbc.htm ) 5) Then process the remove requests ...by using the mailbox processor ( http://205.199.4.219/pop.htm ) 6) If you want you can use the Newsletter Sever ...The Newsletter Sever will allow you to have an topic-specific newsletter that other can subscribe and unsubscribe to. ...Customizing this server response files ( http://205.199.4.219/response.htm ) ...Creating a new newsletter ( http://205.199.4.219/create.htm ) ...Creating and Updating a newsletter the actual newsletter ( http://205.199.4.219/update.htm ) For more info visit http://205.199.4.219 http://205.199.4.219 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!nntp2.crl.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!oronet!i467.oro.net!user From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: @Society Newsletter "dedicated to the NeXT platform" Date: 5 Jun 1997 21:09:53 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i467.oro.net Come visit our web pages at: http://www.oro.net/~tj Subscribe now and start out with our premiere issue scheduled for July/August 1997. Come join the fun!! TJ Ferreira @Society Magazine Newsletter #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: video problems Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:33:20 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 26 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) We are trying to bring up two Dell 2100/200s to use as Netinfo servers. A= s you may be aware, these guys have a one meg configuration of an ATI Mac= h 64 video on the motherboard. Since there are (apparently) no drivers fo= r the one meg configuration that we have been able to get to recognize the on board video circuitry, we insta= lled Number9 Imagine128 Series 2 cards in them. We are quite successfully using this card in a number of Openstep 4.1/4.1= boxes, so we know the beta driver available from nextanswers works. Here's the problem. Once the driver is installed and configured, and we r= eboot the box, it gets through all of the boot and posts "Reboot complete= " (viewing the boot in verbose mode), but never gets any further. Also, t= here is a configuration error reported when it's configuring device drivers. It loads the Imagine drive= r, reports that it sees the video card, but then it seems as if it's atte= mpting to initialize the onboard video circuitry with that configuration = and then reports the error. We have tried any number of possible configurations including plain old 640 by 48= 0 and 256/8bit. No dice. Any suggestions folks? -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.cet.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!kennel From: kennel@nospam.lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel (Remove 'nospam' to reply)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ethernet transfer difficulties Date: 5 Jun 1997 22:01:54 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: kennel@nospam.lyapunov.ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: lyapunov.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.2.0 BETA UNIX) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29188 comp.sys.next.software:29862 On Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:56:46 -0700, Ray Stricklin wrote: : :I'm having a bit of difficulty using NFS between my NeXTcube and a NS 486. :FTP results in similar performance. The very first bit of the transfer :(say, the first 100k) goes through at a normal rate, and then slows down :to one flash of the packet indicator on the hub every few seconds for the :remainder. :raskolnikov is an i486-66, 64M/2G, NS 3.3 :obelix is an 040 cube, 12M/2G, NS 3.3 : :Total loss; I don't understand. : :I hope someone can help me out. This sounds like a fault in the ethernet driver or the card on the PC's end. I saw the same thing on a Linux laptop: good performance at first, but then slows to a halt after lots of fast transfers. It was the driver, doing something screwy on some buffer overflow. What ethernet card on the PC do you have? Try changing it and using a different driver. Have you tried just tar? ok :-r : -- Matthew B. Kennel/Institute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD/ Don't blame me, I voted for Emperor Mollari. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5n76g7$v@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Date: 5 Jun 1997 20:57:56 GMT Control: cancel <5n76g7$v@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Message-ID: Sender: ;laskjfsd;lj@3;asjflksad.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!usenet From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Video cards for multi-head displays under OS or NT Date: 6 Jun 1997 01:29:38 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5n7p62$gkj@agate.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: moica.berkeley.edu Could someone remind me on the list of PCI video cards that support multi-head displays under OPENSTEP, and whether or not the same multi-head setup works under Windows NT? I know ELSA boards support multi-headed config. What other video cards can be used multiply under OS-Mach or under NT? -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: -3323, Web: http://totoro.berkeley.edu/~izumi/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!ftp.uu.net!cyberspam!usenet From: stephlise@telco.com (Steph&Lise.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <998b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Control: cancel <998b11f6.7052534@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 01:00:00 -700 X-No-Archive: Yes Lines: 1 Cancel Spam. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hack Cube Question Date: 3 Jun 1997 08:04:03 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5n0j5j$mnb$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hi there, I want to setup a dual CPU Ncube board that one would be a web server the other would be a FTP server... can this be done? I know that the connection between the two boards are done by the coax interface.. does that mean that the board in slot on cannot be connected outside via the cat 5 socket? or do we have to get one of shannon's fore fiber thingees?;-) While I am at it... does anyone have any success with 1 dim + 2 CPU combo? that isslots:[empty Dimension] [ 04(turbo or otherwise)0 030] combination? thanks godwin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.pitt.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing 3.1 with an IDE CD-Rom Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 12:26:12 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 25 Message-ID: <8na3cYW00UhB01mmcT@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <3397B240.1E1A@evcom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: po8.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <3397B240.1E1A@evcom.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Jun-97 Installing 3.1 with an IDE .. by Charles Esteban Paul@evc > I just purchased NeXtStep 3.1 (still in shrink wrap) and I have been > devestated by the installation procedure which requires a SCSI CD-ROM > drive. Yep. NS 3.1 was the first version released for Intel hardware, and it had only a very limited hardware support, as you've discovered. > Is there any way to point the installation program towards the IDE drive > instead of the non-existant SCSI drive? Has this problem ever occured > before? I would appreciate any help I can get :) Your best bet would be to get a more modern version of NEXTSTEP since it supported installing from IDE drives around 3.3, as well as supporting much more hardware (and doing a better/less buggy job of that support, as well). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!stordir.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Mark Smith" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next is nice .... but! (+ about a thousand other newbie questions) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 17:44:38 GMT Organization: Storage Direct Ltd. Message-ID: <01bc72a1$499a95a0$0601a8c0@mark> NNTP-Posting-Host: stordir.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: stordir.demon.co.uk [158.152.47.86] X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Lines: 15 Well I've had a look at NextStep 3.3, and I must admit it looks nice ... but! Where can I find drivers for it ? We have lots of bits of kit here that NextStep won't recoginise such as Mylex and DPT RAID controllers 3com network cards (595's and 905's). Can anyone point me towards a site with some drivers and docs on it, as I want to see how Next fairs up to other OS's such as NT and Linux, but if I can't use networking it would be a bit pointless. Mark mark@storagedirect.com PS. If there is a FAQ where can I get it ? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!news.uh.edu!news.sfasu.edu!lipschitz!deviate From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: turn-key/plug-in-and-play hardware for NEXT/OPENSTEP and W95 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:24:42 -0600 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware, deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu X-Sender: deviate@lipschitz Organization: As little as I can get away with... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 25 Hello all, We're looking for vendors selling hardware with NEXT/OPENSTEP and W95 installed and ready to roll. Are there any out there? -- kc P.S. The message below notwithstanding, please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu . -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b) (1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for EACH violation. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Please do not send unsolicited commercial mail to my email account. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.evcom.net!not-for-mail From: Charles Esteban Paul Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing 3.1 with an IDE CD-Rom Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 02:46:24 -0400 Organization: Evolution Communications, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3397B240.1E1A@evcom.net> Reply-To: epsas@evcom.net NNTP-Posting-Host: wpb-as1-25.evcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) I just purchased NeXtStep 3.1 (still in shrink wrap) and I have been devestated by the installation procedure which requires a SCSI CD-ROM drive. Is there any way to point the installation program towards the IDE drive instead of the non-existant SCSI drive? Has this problem ever occured before? I would appreciate any help I can get :) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!postman+ From: Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fun with swapfiles Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:17:21 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> <5micmr$a03@xmission.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: po8.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <5micmr$a03@xmission.xmission.com> I've forgotten exactly how Mach treats swapfiles, but I think you can remove it with relative impunity. A normal Unix programming paradigm is fd = open("foo", OCREAT... unlink("foo") ... ... close(fd); This gives you an "anonymous" temp file, which no one else can open or otherwise use (since it doesn't exist in any directory). Since it is open, it is still referenced, and the filesystem won't recycle the underlying data structures or storage. I believe that the same holds true for the swapfiles in Mach -- they are kept "open" by the VM system, so if you delete and recreate one, you won't see any space reclaimed until you reboot (which would reclaim space anyway, natch). I'm just not sure enough to try it myself :-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!europa.clark.net!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!sims3d.demon.co.uk!b.sims From: b.sims@dcs.bbk.ac.uk (Ben Sims) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Promise Ultra ATA etc. Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:16:51 +0000 Message-ID: <19970606101651211863@sims3d.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: sims3d.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: sims3d.demon.co.uk [194.222.19.198] X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2b5 Lines: 8 I would appreciate any feedback on the chances of running OPENSTEP/Mach 4.1 on Gateway2000 P2 /233 ATX with the following components: Hard drive: Quantum 3.2gb with a Promise Ultra ATA controller. CD-ROM: Mitsumi 12-16 IDE/ATAPI Graphics: STB ViRGE GX PCI Cheers, Ben #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:12:18 GMT References: <5n514k$27g@umbc10.umbc.edu> <5n6g7o$5t6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 15 In article <5n6g7o$5t6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de>, Christian Neuss wrote: > >No. You'd wind up with a no-monitor machine, which should boot >however, hm.. interesting. I've done this when I had to use my ND board on another machine but still needed to have my cube up and net-accessable. Worked fine. I didn't try printing, though. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hack Cube Question Date: 7 Jun 1997 00:53:27 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5nabe7$1d0c@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5n0j5j$mnb$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f181-162.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) >I want to setup a dual CPU Ncube board that one would be a web server the >other would be a FTP server... can this be done? I know that the >connection between the two boards are done by the coax interface.. does >that mean that the board in slot on cannot be connected outside via the >cat 5 socket? or do we have to get one of shannon's fore fiber thingees?;-) > >While I am at it... does anyone have any success with 1 dim + 2 >CPU combo? that isslots:[empty Dimension] [ 04(turbo or otherwise)0 030] >combination? You lost me there for a while, but... You can have multiple CPU boards in a cube so long as you do the backplane hack to make all the slots a CPU board is in #0. If only one of the CPU boards has an NBIC chip installed then you can also throw in a NeXTdimension board into the box and have it act as a secondary color display for that CPU. With multiple CPU's in the cube they all effectively act as separate computers sharing the same power supply. That's ALL! If you like you could have each with its own keyboard and monitor even (if the power supply can handle it) but usually the additional CPUs are headless/keyboardless and boot over the network from the main CPU board, requiring them all to be connected via ethernet. FYI - I'm 99% sure the NeXTdimension wont work if more than one CPU board has an NBIC chip on it, and 98% certain two CPU boards with NBIC chips wont work together in any case. To answer your question, yes, a CPU+CPU+ND cube will work, if you do it right. - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: 7 Jun 1997 01:02:53 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5nabvt$1d0c@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> <3395BF41.45F1@ibm.net> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f181-162.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) >> > How can you have a dual headed ND configuration without a soundbox? Is >> > there a way to do this? >> > >> The mono monitor takes the place of the sound box. Color monitor goes >> into the ND, mono monitor into the 040 and the keyboard into the mono >> monitor and that's all there is to it. >> >I was just curious if some color NeXT monitors don't require a soundbox in >order to connect the keyboard and mouse. To make a long story short, you need _something_ to shove in the plug from the keyboard/mouse. The motherboard don't have a suitable recepticle, none of the color monitors have one either. So you need to shove it into either a soundbox or a mono monitor, which do. - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!status.gen.nz!kcbbs!apl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Support for black From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay) Date: 5 Jun 97 21:06:59 GMT Message-ID: <17497155.76019.2462@kcbbs.gen.nz> Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand Lines: 10 I'm dissapointed to hear from quite a few sources that black will no longer be supported. (deep sigh). I was wondering if we could do something like all do a mass-faxing/letter-writing effort to Apple in order for them to; (a) next>make (b) cut some CD's. Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uuneo.neosoft.com!not-for-mail From: Buddy Cox Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: speaking of mono cubes... Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 15:48:18 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33987792.4610@ibm.net> References: <5n3noe$kvd$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> <3395BF41.45F1@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.109.153.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) > I was just curious if some color NeXT monitors don't require a soundbox in > order to connect the keyboard and mouse. > > Mitch They all require it (or a mono monitor, of course, in the ND scenario). Unlike the N4000s, the color monitors do not include this capability. Buddy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!blackbush.xlink.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next is nice .... but! (+ about a thousand other newbie questions) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 12:26:30 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <01bc72a1$499a95a0$0601a8c0@mark> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Mark Smith In-Reply-To: <01bc72a1$499a95a0$0601a8c0@mark> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Mark Smith wrote: > Well I've had a look at NextStep 3.3, and I must admit it looks nice ... > but! No buts allows.... > Where can I find drivers for it ? We have lots of bits of kit here that > NextStep won't recoginise such as Mylex and DPT RAID controllers 3com > network cards (595's and 905's). > Can anyone point me towards a site with some drivers and docs on it, as I > want to see how Next fairs up to other OS's such as NT and Linux, but if I > can't use networking it would be a bit pointless. Your greatest source will be http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/ There is a hardware compatibility guide therein for both 3.3 and 4.x > PS. If there is a FAQ where can I get it ? Yes there is, you can find it and many many other helpful NeXTStep links at my bookmarks page, see my .sig for the URL. TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!sounds!brianw From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Message-ID: Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 18:55:34 GMT Lines: 93 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29203 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27022 NeXT uses the Berkeley Fast File System (BFFS), described in the UNIX System Manager's Manual, chapter 14. Grab a copy via the Web, Archie, or ftp, and read it through. >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-May-97 Re: HELP with >WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net >> Well, first, this breaks down in the case of a system with two >> partitions (like mine :) because in that situation you WILL have >> the head going over some dead space to get to the swap all the >> time... There should be no dead space. I seem to remember that the BFFS purposely spreads out the files over different heads and cylinders to protect against total loss of data if a single head or cylinder is lost. >> Hmmm, that's true... My setup is two partitions (which might be >> a worst case scenario!) and typically you can almost FEEL the darn >> heads being moved away to get to swap... However, one point to >> make...if the drive is REALLY big... Let's say 9 gigs, and you >> have 3 partitons: a being 4gb for system, b being 1gb for swap, >> and c being 4gb for files/apps... Let's say you only have 1gb of >> data on both partitions a and c. Then the heads will have to travel >> over more space than had the person made a single partition with >> all 3gb's of data situated more tightly together...no? >> >> See what I mean... >> >> |aa-aaa-aa----------------|bbbbbbbb|cc-ccc-cc--------------| >> >> |-----------max head seek distance----------| >> >> vs. >> >> |a-c-aa-c-a-c-ac-bbbbbb-a-c-a-cc-b-b-----------------------| >> >> |---------max h.seek distance------| I guess you're assuming that each new file will be allocated with the lowest block numbers available in the partition. I cannot explain why you can feel the heads moving, but this just isn't true. The BFFS places file under 1MB in a contiguous sequence of blocks, but as far away as possible from other files in the partition (I may be exaggerating a bit here). BFFS also tries to use a different head or platter for each new file - obviously in a cyclic scheme - to protect against loss of all data when a single head crashes. This overall scheme may be thwarted by SCSI drives which do not accurately report their sector, head, and cylinder count - or by drives which change the number of sectors per track between the inner and outer cylinders - but the file system still treats things this way for allocation purposes. An interesting side note about the BFFS is that files above 1MB are "pre-fragmented." In other words, they are purposely broken into 1MB chunks that are spread out across the disk. If you think about this from one point of view, it actually makes sense. There is a maximum "run" of data that can be sucked from a drive non-stop without CPU or SCSI throughput necessitating a brief pause. Also, you wouldn't plan a file system for a multi-tasking operating system without considering that huge files can not be read in their entirety without breaking the I/O request up so that other processes can run. I would assume that different hardware would have a different optimal run size. I don't know if BFFS allows this 1MB chunk size to be changed, but I assume this is the sort of thing that people adjust when tuning their file system parameters to their system (a mysterious art that I have not mastered). >Yes, you're absolutely correct that partitioning the drives in the way >you describe would decrease performance. > >Having everything be on one partition tends to cause more fragmentation, >and it prevents you from doing any kind of filesystem tuning to adjust >the filesystem parameters more appropriately for the intended usage of >the partition. > >You've clearly understood that partitioning a drive badly hurts >performance quite noticably, but you make a mistake by generalizing too >far and claiming that partitioning a drive will always hurt performance. It sounds like I've jumped into the discussion late. Although the ideas are sound, I think that some of the examples do not exactly apply to OPENSTEP, unless you both were talking about using FDISK to partition DOS formatted drives. We're not talking about a toy file system like DOS. Even though NeXT had been criticized for not having a "modern" file system (there are some out there with advantages), BFFS is a far cry better than a first hack, FAT-based file system that a certain software giant seems unwilling to move beyond. :-( -- Brian Willoughby NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, Rhapsody Software Design Sound Consulting Bellevue, WA, U.S.A. Registered NeXT/Apple Enterprise Alliance Partner BrianW@SoundS.WA.com NeXTmail welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5nc9ja$d7n$1019@usenet85.supernews.com> Date: 7 Jun 1997 20:02:07 GMT Control: cancel <5nc9ja$d7n$1019@usenet85.supernews.com> Message-ID: Sender: jasonben@aol.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 19:52:13 -0600 From: ybco@bestweb.net Subject: NeXTSTEP on compaq presario 9500 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <865729476.29230@dejanews.com> Reply-To: ybco@bestweb.net Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Jun 08 00:24:36 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 208.218.51.45 (dialin-10.katonah.bestweb.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Authenticated-Sender: ybco@bestweb.net Lines: 5 Has anyone been able to install nextstep 3.1/3.2 for Mach on compaq presario series computers?? -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to Build Disk new Boot for black? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <339426a6.1266278@news.mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 18:28:09 GMT Lines: 27 In article <339426a6.1266278@news.mindspring.com> tia@nospam.internet (Thanks In Advance!) writes: > Good Morning, > I am hoping somebody can give me some advice concerning Build > Disk for Black. I have several times attempted to create a new boot > disk using my slab. I had diasy chained a scsi CD into the system, and > using a new hard drive, proceeded to Build Disk. After the task > finished, I disconnected all the drives, and reconnected only the new > drive. The system refused to boot from the new drive. I was > careful with scsi ID jumpers, so I don't think that was the problem. > Does anybody have a suggestion on how I can create a new boot drive? > Thank You! > Unfortunately, you didn't give any cosole messages you got during the boot attempts. You can only expect some very general advice, though. Black machines need the internal drive and the last external drive to be terminated properly. Correct SCSI IDs are fine but just not sufficient. Black NeXTs will always try to boot from the hard disk with the lowest ID. And a drive that is not automatically or by means of switches set to respond in asynch mode is not bootable! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: new scsi disk pricing web page Date: 8 Jun 1997 15:02:53 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19970608150200.LAA28949@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com i am now going to publish my special scsi-UPS-Pentium pricing at the following web address, so that it can be updated daily, and weekly. please visit it. also a cool picture of the new Hornet fighter plane firing a Tomahawk missile at you. http://members.aol.com/JCarr37863/index.html UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.nether.net!news.he.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu Subject: Re: turn-key/plug-in-and-play hardware for NEXT/OPENSTEP and W95 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 14:39:36 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > We're looking for vendors selling hardware with NEXT/OPENSTEP and W95 > installed and ready to roll. Are there any out there? Greetings! I would like to offer my recommendation for Bifrostworks Workstations (http://www.bifrostworks.com/). They put together a rock-solid NSFIP machine for me (ie zero panics). Although I decided not to have Win95 installed by them, I really wish I had and they could have done it for me. Jason @ Bifrost spent a lot of time with me discussing exactly what I wanted (because I didn't reallu know ;-) and the machine he put together is both exactly what I wanted. I am really impressed with them. Also FYI: when I asked the Usenet groups about getting an Intel machine, I got several emails from folks who had bought multiple workstations from them (some a few years ago) and they all spoke glowingly about their experiences with Bifrost. You can even click on the nice Bifrost icon from my NeXT page ;-) TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!torn!garnet.nbnet.nb.ca!news.unb.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!kyle From: kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kyle Hearfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: soundblaster Vibra 16 and NS/OS Date: 6 Jun 1997 14:04:39 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5n95dn$kvn@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Has anyone been able to get NeXTStep or Openstep to see the Vibra 16 audio card from Soundblaster. I have a Dell XPS133s which has this chip integrated on the motherboard. All the documentation I have seen indicates that it uses the same settings as a regular soundblaster but I cannot get NS or OS to see it. -- I don't wan't the world, I just want your half. -Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kyle D. Hearfield kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PGP FINGERPRINT = 8A 3C 24 C9 86 F5 E6 3C 7B 91 D2 B1 CF 32 B7 E9 **finger for public Key** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!tor-nn1.netcom.ca!news From: "Sameer Khosla" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: remote booting Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 17:16:32 -0400 Organization: Netcom Canada Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5nf7hf$chr@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: trt-on14-47.netcom.ca X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jun 08 5:17:35 PM EDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Yet another silly question for you guys. If you have a Next Cube that you want to use as a server, can you connect next stations that do not have hard drives to the network and have them boot off of the server, or do they have to have hard drives? Sameer Khosla labtec@netcom.ca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!chico.franken.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!shelob.afs.com!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <26791865137630@digifix.com> Date: 8 Jun 1997 03:57:17 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <14012865742421@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:71580 comp.sys.next.announce:4235 comp.sys.next.hardware:29210 comp.sys.next.software:29886 comp.sys.next.misc:26080 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27030 comp.sys.next.bugs:4353 comp.sys.next.programmer:24825 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!130.207.244.18!gatech!news.niehs.nih.gov!not-for-mail From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: 8 Jun 1997 21:25:53 GMT Organization: NIEHS Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Reply-To: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: catatac.niehs.nih.gov Keywords: MAC, Rhapsody Hi, I know nearly nothing about MAC hardware. Would someone please tell me what MAC hardware should be best for running Rhapsody when it arrives? I saw a report from the WWDC saying that the first (pre-) release would only support the 8500 and 8600 machines. Are these the top-of-the-line MACs or more like a mid-level line? I think I've seen ads for a 9600, which I assume is a fancier machine, as the model number is higher. Is this true? If so, why wouldn't Rhapsody run on this machine? Do they really mean 8500 or higher? Or are they limiting it to a mid-level machine intially? I'd like to buy the top of the line, but I'd sure hate to find out that it won't run Rhapsody when it comes out. Thanks in advance for any guidance. Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] experience with pnp modem Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 07:05:54 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 10 Message-ID: <970608160554.359AAGhE.root@color> NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.198 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: Eloquent[2.01]; Eloquent is a Trademark of Take 3 does anyone have any experience with "sound blaster 16 pnp + phone blaster 28800 pnp modem" on NEXTSTEP? Thanks, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A and info board written in Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soundblaster Vibra 16 and NS/OS Date: 9 Jun 1997 13:10:00 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5ngvb8$d4$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5n95dn$kvn@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: zwiebel.physik.tu-berlin.de In-Reply-To: <5n95dn$kvn@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00004 Hello, On 06/06/97, Kyle Hearfield wrote: >Has anyone been able to get NeXTStep or Openstep to see the Vibra 16 >audio card from Soundblaster. Yes I have. You must install the newest EISA and Soundblaster drivers. Then, after a reboot, you have to start the programme /usr/Devices/EISABus.config/PnPDump from a Terminal prompt. Search for a line like Logical Device 0: Id OPT0000 (0x3e140000) in the section describing your Sound-Card and note the number in parenthesis. You have to enter that number in the "experts option panel" in the soundblaster section of Configure.app. After another reboot it should work! Hope this helps, Dirk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dirk Schwarzhans Email: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (MIME and NeXTMail welcome) WWW: http://pl.physik.TU-Berlin.DE/DZ/Dirk/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!Frankfurt.Germany.EU.net!Munich.Germany.EU.net!ibm.de!lds36.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com!not-for-mail From: Henry Koplien Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soundblaster Vibra 16 and NS/OS Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 08:02:12 +0200 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Lines: 19 Message-ID: <339B9C64.41C6@vnet.ibm.com> References: <5n95dn$kvn@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 9.164.177.99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; AIX 1) Kyle Hearfield wrote: > > Has anyone been able to get NeXTStep or Openstep to see the Vibra 16 audio > card from Soundblaster. I have a Dell XPS133s which has this chip > integrated on the motherboard. All the documentation I have seen > indicates that it uses the same settings as a regular soundblaster but I > cannot get NS or OS to see it. Strange behaviour. Works fine with a Intel-Box. Henry -- ----------- http://www.ti6.tu-harburg.de/~ti6hk/index.html ------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany voice : +49-7031-16-3516 \|/ fax : +49-7031-16-3328 o(O O)o voice,BBS & fax : +49-7031-276113 (private) \ / ------------------ Email: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com ----ooOo---(_)---oOoo--- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: remote booting Date: 9 Jun 1997 13:46:55 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5nh1gf$251$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5nf7hf$chr@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> Reply-To: vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) NNTP-Posting-Host: gatekeeper.ukrv.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: labtec@netcom.ca "Sameer Khosla" schrieb in comp.sys.next.hardware: > Yet another silly question for you guys. > > If you have a Next Cube that you want to use as a server, can you > connect next stations that do not have hard drives to the network and > have them boot off of the server, or do they have to have hard > drives? Sure, you can. But consider, that the clients will swap over your network and a cube is not very fast as a server in these days ... I wouldn't do that. > Sameer Khosla > labtec@netcom.ca CIAO Volker -- Volker Safran, Berlin, Germany ___________________________________ --- / Phone: +49 30 69041523 (private) volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de / +49 30 45058062 (at work) vsafran@ukrv.de (at work) / FAX : +49 30 69041524 (private) ______________________________/ +49 30 45058904 (at work) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: dnelson@slip.net (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Openstep Intel/Mach tips page Date: 8 Jun 1997 04:05:27 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5ne3ln$jdp@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29216 comp.sys.next.bugs:4354 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27034 I have made a web page that has some tips for dealing with some of the Openstep install issues. You can get to it here: http://www.slip.net/~dnelson/openstep.html Basically, it describes some of the problems I have had and some of the solutions. contact me here: dnelson@slip.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!easynet-uk!btnet-feed2!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!cayouett From: cayouett@bmerh189.ca.nortel.com (Daniel Cayouette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black printer starting to smudge print-outs Date: 8 Jun 1997 16:04:18 GMT Organization: Nortel (Northern Telecom) Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5nel62$6d1@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: bmerh189.bnr.ca My black printer has recently started to print with black smears on the paper. I've tried to dust/swipe the insides without any luck. Any suggestions? Should I replace the original cartridge? Daniel PS: I bought it in '90 :) -- Messaging Systems Development Ottawa, Ontario Project Manager - Global Email Interworking Email: Daniel.Cayouette@nortel.ca or Daniel@Cayouette.com Phone: (613)763-2340 http://47.80.12.186/interop - Messaging Inter-operability Home Page #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.graffix.de!uni-duisburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!gmv.es!news.IAEhv.nl!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!feed1.news.erols.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!chi-news.cic.net!news.nd.edu!sboker From: sboker@calliope.psych.nd.edu (Steven M. Boker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mux for 4.x ? Date: 8 Jun 1997 23:54:20 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5nfgnc$9jq@news.nd.edu> Reply-To: sboker@nd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: euterpe.psych.nd.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27038 comp.sys.next.hardware:29218 Hi all, I need to run the MUX driver (for the Digiboard 8 port serial card) on OpenStep 4.0. It seems that Mux doesn't like to install itself on 4.0. I have it installed on an old 3.3 system at home, but this nifty new 4.0 system at the lab doesn't work the same. Anybody get MUX to work on OS 4.x? If you're interested in why, here's a quick run-down. I'm studying the nonlinear dynamics of body movements. This is a part of psychology called Perception-Action Systems. I'm working to establish serial communications with an odd "bird". This is a set of magnetic coil position trackers called a "flock of birds". Unfortunately, these people have a relatively non-standard serial interface that uses RTS to reset their electronics! Yech! I'm stuck with XON/XOFF protocol and I'm trying to synchronize a number of sensors simultaneously. Enter Digiboard and the MUX driver, right? Eight ports with 16 byte buffering, and if I'm clever, I can get enough data moving from each sensor to maintain a reasonable enough sampling rate to understand some of the low level processes in how we maintain balance and how we perform non-verbal communication. If anyone can help here, I'd be very thankful. I've been up and down and back and forth with a breakout box before I came to the inescapeable conclusion that the Flock of Birds wants to run at 57 kbaud without hardware flow control. Insane! I'm going to have to step down the speed and add more ports. All the best, Steve -- Dr. Steven M. Boker 219-631-4941 (voice) sboker@nd.edu 219-631-8883 (fax) http://www.nd.edu/~sboker/ 219-257-2956 (home) Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ndqnt$nm$1158@news.internetmci.com> Date: 8 Jun 1997 16:51:30 GMT Control: cancel <5ndqnt$nm$1158@news.internetmci.com> Message-ID: Sender: Photorep45@ibm.net X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!pacbell.com!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!comp.vuw.ac.nz!ak.netlink.co.nz!auckland.ac.nz!news.hn.netlink.co.nz!celebrian.otago.ac.nz!not-for-mail From: richard@aphrael.csarc.otago.ac.nz (Richard Lewis-Shell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is required of an internal scsi hd to work on a slab? Date: 8 Jun 1997 23:39:37 GMT Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, NZ Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5nffrp$lcb$1@celebrian.otago.ac.nz> Reply-To: richard@csarc.otago.ac.nz NNTP-Posting-Host: ruth.csarc.otago.ac.nz Hello, I was wondering what needs to be set (via jumpers?) on a scsi hd to work on the internal scsi bus? I have a 500Mb disk that works fine in an external enclosure, but when I put it inside the slab (nextstation turbo), I get the following error after the 'extended scsi boot test': System test failed. Error code 65 Boot command: sd boot sd(0,0,0) SCSI Bus Hung Can anyone help? This disk boots fine when outside the slab. TIA, Richard #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 18:07:49 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: "Gregg E. Dinse" In-Reply-To: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat I believe any recent PowerPC should do it... Although personally I'd probably wait and get whatever it current at the time... If you are planning on development, yes that will be relatively soon... however, if you just want to use Rhapsody, I think they are talking late 1998... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz Drive with laptop for NeXTStep Date: 9 Jun 1997 01:50:21 GMT Lines: 16 Message-ID: <19970609015000.VAA28532@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com I'm wondering--would I be able to boot NeXTStep 3.3 (or OPENSTEP) from a Jaz drive attached to a ThinkPad via a PCMCIA SCSI Controller? If not, how much hard drive space would I need to allocate to NeXTStep for it to boot, and then use the Jaz Drive? Just trying to plan ahead on what I should purchase--any input much appreciated. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!tor-nn1.netcom.ca!news From: "Sameer Khosla" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black printer starting to smudge print-outs Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 21:46:43 -0400 Organization: Netcom Canada Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5nfnc3$pu0@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> References: <5nel62$6d1@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: trt-on8-24.netcom.ca X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jun 08 9:47:48 PM EDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 If its a thermal or laser printer, you can try a cleaning sheet. They cost about $5 and usually do the trick. If not, then you probably need a new drum. Sameer Khosla labtec@netcom.ca Daniel Cayouette wrote in article <5nel62$6d1@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>... > My black printer has recently started to print with black smears on >the paper. I've tried to dust/swipe the insides without any luck. > > Any suggestions? Should I replace the original cartridge? > >Daniel > >PS: I bought it in '90 :) > >-- >Messaging Systems Development Ottawa, Ontario >Project Manager - Global Email Interworking >Email: Daniel.Cayouette@nortel.ca or Daniel@Cayouette.com Phone: (613)763-2340 >http://47.80.12.186/interop - Messaging Inter-operability Home Page > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What does a Black modem cable act like? Date: 8 Jun 1997 22:54:53 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5nfr9t$msl@umbc10.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc10.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: bhurle1 Cube + cable + modem = good times ahead. So I have a pc cable, and I have a mac cable, the mac one fits, but will it work? I had thought there was some wierd thing about the pinout. True? how do I rewire it? thanks bryan 040 25 20 100 3.2 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu!not-for-mail From: "Robert A. Decker" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: 8 Jun 97 23:00:00 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-235.subnet-134.med.umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Gregg E. Dinse" X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 X-News-Servers: news.itd.umich.edu X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware It will run on 8600's (a current model) and 8500's (an older model). It may also run on 9500's and 9600's, but only if you're using an Apple video card. If I were you I'd try to get an 8600. However, last I heard Apple was about 15,000 orders behind on these machines. If you can't get the 8600 then try to get an 8500. I'd be worried about a 9500/9600 because the only quotes I've seen is that Apple will 'try' to get it so that the DR can run on these machines. I saw no guarantees. An 8500 would probably have a 604 PPC chip in it, while the 8600's will have 604e's. The 604e/200 is faster than anything Intel has out, so you should be happy with an 8600/200. (The 8500, 8600, 9500, and 9600 all use the same motherboard. However, the 8500/8600's have onboard video, while the 9500/9600's require cards. What's strange is that I seem to remember seeing these machines only selling with non-Apple video cards. Another difference is that the 8500/8600's have 3 PCI slots while the 9500/9600's have 5. I also think the 9500/9600's ship with larger L2 cache. Also, the 8500/8600 have onboard video-in/video-out while the 9500/9600 do not). Oh, BTW, it's 'Mac', not 'MAC'. A MAC is some sort of controller device. rob -- Listen to my Realaudio playlist: Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black printer starting to smudge print-outs Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 21:36:30 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <5nel62$6d1@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <5nfnc3$pu0@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Sameer Khosla , Daniel@Cayouette.com In-Reply-To: <5nfnc3$pu0@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Sun, 8 Jun 1997, Sameer Khosla wrote: > If its a thermal or laser printer, you can try a cleaning sheet. They cost > about $5 and usually do the trick. If not, then you probably need a new > drum. I tried one of these with my NeXT laser printer and it made things worse.... much worse.... I wouldn't recommend it.... YMMV TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!206.165.3.11!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: "Carl A. Carlson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Digital Signal Processor? Date: 8 Jun 1997 22:14:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 5 Message-ID: <339B3024.6575@primenet.com> X-Posted-By: @198.68.42.81 (ccarlson) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently bought a NeXT Mono Station (25 mhz). I understand that it has a Digital Signal Processor. What can it do? Where can I get documentation? Thanks, Carl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!gmv.es!news.IAEhv.nl!chippy.visi.com!visi.com!news-out.visi.com!jacobs.Geeks.ORG!not-for-mail From: David Young Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What does a Black modem cable act like? Date: 9 Jun 1997 23:40:23 GMT Organization: Geeks Organizations Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5ni497$bju$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5nfr9t$msl@umbc10.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jacobs.geeks.org NNTP-Posting-Date: 09 Jun 1997 18:40:23 CDT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970123] hurley bryan wrote: > So I have a pc cable, and I have a mac cable, the mac one fits, but will > it work? I had thought there was some wierd thing about the pinout. man zs, or search the System Administrator's Guide for "Cabling". You want an 040 DIN-8 to RS-232 cable with the relevant pins in the relevant places. Various Mac cables will not work, from what I've heard. My advices to snag a LocalTalk cable as some Mac modem cables lack pins that 040s need. Then hack it up and connect the pins, and presto. This is also my advice for Newton MessagePad cables. > 040 25 20 100 3.2 Neat sig. -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net :: :: PGP fingerprint :: 89F5 E75D 4749 3FF4 :: ED92 1B6D 9871 9B93 :: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!ftpbox.mot.com!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!legume186176.nuts.nwu.edu!user From: j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 07:29:34 -0600 Organization: Northwestern University Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: legume186176.nuts.nwu.edu In article , "Robert A. Decker" wrote: > I'd be worried about a 9500/9600 because the only > quotes I've seen is that Apple will 'try' to get it so that the DR can run > on these machines. I saw no guarantees. Apple sent a letter to developers on May 30 stating that Rhapsody DR1 will run on the 9500 and 9600 models in addition to the 8500 and 8600 models. -- John Norstad #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!hunter.premier.net!news From: John Zachary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Syquest EZFlyer EIDE and Openstep 4.2 Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 11:28:57 -0500 Organization: LSU Robotics Research Laboratory Lines: 11 Message-ID: <339C2F49.1AC9@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Reply-To: zachary@premier.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ts3203.dialup.premier.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Anyone have experience with the Syquest EZFlyer EIDE unit and OpenStep 4.2? I suppose it should work like a normal EIDE drive, but my suppositions have been known to be wrong. Thanks. (BTW, yes I consulted NeXTAnswers - no answer). -- John Zachary LSU Robotics Research Laboratory #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What does a Black modem cable act like? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 14:28:27 GMT References: <5nfr9t$msl@umbc10.umbc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 19 In article <5nfr9t$msl@umbc10.umbc.edu>, hurley bryan wrote: > >Cube + cable + modem = good times ahead. > Yes! >So I have a pc cable, and I have a mac cable, the mac one fits, but will >it work? I had thought there was some wierd thing about the pinout. > As I recall the Mac cable will not work. There are wiring instructions in the man page for zs. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Digital Signal Processor? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 14:29:31 GMT References: <339B3024.6575@primenet.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 16 In article <339B3024.6575@primenet.com>, Carl A. Carlson wrote: >I recently bought a NeXT Mono Station (25 mhz). I understand that it >has a Digital Signal Processor. What can it do? Where can I get >documentation? It can do all sorts of DSP-related stuff. Check out the MusicKit from CCRMA (something like http://www.ccrma.stanford.edu/). If you want to write DSP assembler yourself (great fun!) you should get the DSP56001UM/AD book from Motorola. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!news.sfu.ca!not-for-mail From: Melissa O'Neill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Monitor giving out -- stretching & shrinking vertical Date: 9 Jun 1997 11:19:00 -0700 Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5nhhek$ojl@alonzo.cs.sfu.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: alonzo.cs.sfu.ca Yesterday, after more than six years of faithful and near continuous service, my black monochrome monitor has developed a fault. It's developed a distortion in its vertical scan, and now stretches the first twenty or so scan lines, and then moves through normal into squashing the scan lines up (at it's worst around where `Quit' is in the Terminal.app menu), and then suddenly, bing, the lower half of the screen is normal. If this is some common problem, with an easy fix, I'd be very interested. Also, if I can send my monitor away somewhere to be fixed, I'd love to hear where that would be. Finally, if I have to get a `new' monitor, I'd be interested in knowing where the best place is, and how much I'd have to pay. Hoping someone can help, Melissa. --- If you want to send e-mail replies to this posting, you'll have to remove `N O S P A M' from my e-mail address. Sorry for any inconvenience. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!57.detroit-005.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 18:33:13 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.52.57 > > Apple sent a letter to developers on May 30 stating that Rhapsody DR1 will > run on the 9500 and 9600 models in addition to the 8500 and 8600 models. > Yeah, but were they telling the truth? :-) Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.chicago.cic.net!newsxfer.nether.net!141.211.144.12!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!clunix.cl.msu.edu!blazek From: Rudolf B Blazek Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 19:17:03 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: clunix.cl.msu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 9 Jun 1997 mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > > > > Apple sent a letter to developers on May 30 stating that Rhapsody DR1 will > > run on the 9500 and 9600 models in addition to the 8500 and 8600 models. > > > Yeah, but were they telling the truth? :-) > > Mitch > > In addition, how does one get a copy of the Rhapsody Developer Pre-release? I tried to call them and they told me it wasn't available anymore. And they weren't very nice about it: "We don't take orders anymore. Period". They said that they'd release something new in August, so they told me to call then. Any other experience? Thanks. Rudy. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!gmv.es!news.IAEhv.nl!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3Com 3C900 or DECChip ethernet card for Openstep? Date: 9 Jun 1997 23:41:46 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ni4bq$j2l$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu Which is a better choice for Openstep 4.2 on Intel: The 3Com Etherlink XL 3C900 PCI combo-10BaseT/AUI/BNC or a DECchip21040-based card such as the Cogent EM960C (which apparently is now also the Adaptec 6901/C) PCI combo-10BaseT/AUI/BNC ? I'm stuck on a 10Base2 (BNC) network, so I need the combo card. I also plan to run Linux and Win95 on the machine. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!nick.arc.nasa.gov!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: jon@haveman.org (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3Com 3C900 or DECChip ethernet card for Openstep? Date: 10 Jun 1997 00:29:05 GMT Organization: Purdue University Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ni74h$hvk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5ni4bq$j2l$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Reply-To: jon@haveman.org.nospam NNTP-Posting-Host: intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu Karl Pfleger writes > Which is a better choice for Openstep 4.2 on Intel: > The 3Com Etherlink XL 3C900 PCI combo-10BaseT/AUI/BNC or a > DECchip21040-based card such as the Cogent EM960C (which apparently is now > also the Adaptec 6901/C) PCI combo-10BaseT/AUI/BNC ? Check NextAnswers (at wwww.next.com), but I'm pretty sure that a driver does not yet exist for the 3Com. -- Jon Haveman #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!reuna.cl!utfsm!not-for-mail From: Ru-tso Luo Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: (intel) please help with Matrox Mystique !! Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 23:02:00 +0000 Organization: UTFSM Lines: 32 Message-ID: <339C8B68.5F6@disca.utfsm.cl> NNTP-Posting-Host: mulchen.ind.utfsm.cl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Just installing OS 4.1 on a white (and horrible, by the way) machine. Have a Mystique video board. I know it´s not on the NeXTAnswers, the mystique seems not to be supported (there´s no driver for it "yet" :-) ). I just want to know which of the drivers available are the most siutable for my situation; that is, with which can I get the most screen, colors, hertz, etc. Which display is the "nearest" in technical composition as to use it for a Mystyque ..? ( I don´t wanna live for ever with 640x480 !!! ) --> the default SVGA Driver locked or frozed on boot. --> so, booted with default config, --> set theI Millenium Driver 2048, and rebooted. --> now i can see the screen, am working in BW 640x480, kind of what i thought should be the SVGA mode. But go to the config app, and she sees the Millenium, although she doesn´t have the correct settings (i asked for 256 color, 1074x740, etc). what the hell ?? thanks, from the other side of the world (anybody has ever heard about Chile??) Rutso #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3Com 3C900 or DECChip ethernet card for Openstep? Date: 10 Jun 1997 03:45:06 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5niik2$pl3$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <5ni4bq$j2l$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <5ni74h$hvk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu In article <5ni74h$hvk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@haveman.org.nospam writes: >Karl Pfleger writes >> Which is a better choice for Openstep 4.2 on Intel: >> The 3Com Etherlink XL 3C900 PCI combo-10BaseT/AUI/BNC or a >> DECchip21040-based card such as the Cogent EM960C (which apparently is now >> also the Adaptec 6901/C) PCI combo-10BaseT/AUI/BNC ? > >Check NextAnswers (at wwww.next.com), but I'm pretty sure that a driver does >not yet exist for the 3Com. >Jon Haveman I did check. Looked like it was there but in beta status. -Karl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jasonben@aol.com (jasonben) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5nc9ja$d7n$1019@usenet85.supernews.com> Control: cancel <5nc9ja$d7n$1019@usenet85.supernews.com> Date: 9 Jun 1997 12:41:47 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-5nc9ja$d7n$1019@usenet85.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!btnet!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!enews.sgi.com!news.caldera.com!news.et.byu.edu!not-for-mail From: "Jesse D. Hurlbut" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: drive terminators Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 20:03:26 -0600 Organization: StarPage LCC Message-ID: <3390D86E.8BB@starpage.com> Reply-To: webmaster@starpage.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.187.41.129 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Lines: 8 I need to terminate my scsi drive, but don't have the two 10-pin terminators that came with the drive. No one locally seems to carry them. Where can I find some? Are all 10-pin terminators the same? The spec sheet for the drive doesn't say anything about them at all. thanks for help, Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!inf6serv.rug.ac.be!allserv.rug.ac.be!bherrema From: Bald Herreman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ethernet transfer difficulties Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:52:52 +0200 Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: allserv.rug.ac.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29240 comp.sys.next.software:29908 On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Ray Stricklin wrote: > > I'm having a bit of difficulty using NFS between my NeXTcube and a NS 486. > We are having difficulties with a Nextcube and a Pentium 166 > FTP results in similar performance. The very first bit of the transfer > (say, the first 100k) goes through at a normal rate, and then slows down > to one flash of the packet indicator on the hub every few seconds for the > remainder. exactly, If I have to transport large files I ftp them to the university ftp server(=on the other side of town), from there on to the nextcube > > It seems to make no difference which machine is the one doing the > exporting or importing; I've tried both ways. Nextcube to intel goes significantly faster (my guess is a factor 50) compared to intel >>> next Importing from the 486 > results in countless 'NFS server raskolnikov not responding' 'NFS server > raskolnikov ok' messages to the console on the cube. I get no messages > when importing from the cube, but performance is the same. Identical situation > > raskolnikov is an i486-66, 64M/2G, NS 3.3 > obelix is an 040 cube, 12M/2G, NS 3.3 > > Total loss; I don't understand. > > I hope someone can help me out. > > ok > -r > We are in this situation ever since we got our new server (Intel Pentium), I dont really now if it has been going on before since the nextcube was server only. Good luck #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!IN-Berlin.DE!fub!mind.de!stepman.com!news From: gerald@stepman.com (Gerald Erdmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: 10 Jun 1997 15:49:01 GMT Organization: STEPman OPENSTEP Consulting, Germany Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5njt1d$s1@mimi.stepman.com> References: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <5njnbf$4vp@mimi.stepman.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kurt.stepman.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) Cc: gerald@stepman.com In John Norstad wrote: > In article , "Robert A. Decker" > wrote: > > > I'd be worried about a 9500/9600 because the only > > quotes I've seen is that Apple will 'try' to get it so that the DR can run > > on these machines. I saw no guarantees. > > Apple sent a letter to developers on May 30 stating that Rhapsody DR1 will > run on the 9500 and 9600 models in addition to the 8500 and 8600 models. > There are some romours that DR1 will also be available vor Intel hardware. Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN (STEPman) | email: gerald @ stepman.com (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 397 31 400 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!carmi.cs.umd.edu!not-for-mail From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Auto-Powerup for NeXTstations Date: 10 Jun 1997 16:50:57 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5nk0lh$623@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Reply-To: seanlNoSpam@cs.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: carmi.cs.umd.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I'm wondering if there's any conceivable way to force a NeXTstation to not turn itself off when the power is cut; that is, if the power to a building (say) is cut, and then resupplied, the NeXTstation automatically boots without a user having to press the power key. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanlNoSpam@cs.umd.edu URL: http://nospam.www.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:04:21 -0600 From: tsal@dfw.net Subject: Re: What is required of an internal scsi hd to work on a slab? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <865966619.22202@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: richard@csarc.otago.ac.nz References: <5nffrp$lcb$1@celebrian.otago.ac.nz> X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Jun 10 18:16:59 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 198.175.15.17 (maggotbox.dfw.net) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.01; Mac_PowerPC) X-Authenticated-Sender: tsal@dfw.net Lines: 77 In article <5nffrp$lcb$1@celebrian.otago.ac.nz>, richard@csarc.otago.ac.nz wrote: > I was wondering what needs to be set (via jumpers?) on a scsi hd to work > on the internal scsi bus? I have a 500Mb disk that works fine in an > external enclosure, but when I put it inside the slab (nextstation turbo), > I get the following error after the 'extended scsi boot test': > > System test failed. Error code 65 > > Boot command: sd > boot sd(0,0,0) > SCSI Bus Hung I seem to be having the exact same problem, I have a 1.0Gbyte SCSI drive, though, but I get the exact same error... strange.. if you get a fix/solution email me back, please.. or someone else *help!* tsal@dfw.net -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Work: msoori@*genetics.bio-rad.com | ~ ~ Personal: mahesh@*value.net | This space for rent! ~ ~ Home Page: http://value.net/~mahesh/work.html | ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news.onramp.net!newshost.cyberramp.net!news-in.iadfw.net!liuyi From: liuyi@dragon-dance.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is required of an internal scsi hd to work on a slab? Date: 10 Jun 1997 20:21:11 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <9816A0E996C79F50.07458D622AA903D0.9EA20C6B40655295@library-proxy.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: References: <5nffrp$lcb$1@celebrian.otago.ac.nz> <865966619.22202@dejanews.com> Reply-To: liuyi@dragon-dance.com NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Host: liuyi.dmans.com X-RealOS: NEXTSTEP3.3p1(m68k) X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.4.0 NEXTSTEP3.3p1(m68k)) On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:04:21 -0600, tsal@dfw.net wrote: > In article <5nffrp$lcb$1@celebrian.otago.ac.nz>, > > I was wondering what needs to be set (via jumpers?) on a scsi hd to work > > on the internal scsi bus? I have a 500Mb disk that works fine in an > > external enclosure, but when I put it inside the slab (nextstation turbo), > > I get the following error after the 'extended scsi boot test': > > System test failed. Error code 65 > > Boot command: sd > > boot sd(0,0,0) > > SCSI Bus Hung > > I seem to be having the exact same problem, I have a 1.0Gbyte SCSI drive, > though, but I get the exact same error... strange.. if you get a > fix/solution > > email me back, please.. or someone else *help!* > Did you terminate the internal drive when you put it in? It has to be terminated. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi {NeXTMail OK} Dallas,TX #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maz.net!news.is-europe.net!news.shlink.de!news2.shlink.de!gamelan.shnet.org!thomas From: thf@iname.com (Thomas F. Unke) Subject: Re: Black printer starting to smudge print-outs Message-ID: <1997Jun9.202849.1030@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: cayouett@bmerh189.ca.nortel.com Organization: Disorganization X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes References: <5nel62$6d1@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 20:28:49 GMT Lines: 10 In <5nel62$6d1@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Daniel Cayouette wrote: > My black printer has recently started to print with black smears on > the paper. I've tried to dust/swipe the insides without any luck. > > Any suggestions? Should I replace the original cartridge? Yes, it is the cartridge if cleaning doesn't help. Get a new one ! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.nether.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!data.ramona.vix.com!nnrp1.crl.com!not-for-mail From: Subir Grewal Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT laser printer toner cartidge? Date: 10 Jun 1997 23:41:01 GMT Organization: Trill host selection council Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5nkome$6ca$1@nnrp1.crl.com> Reply-To: "Joined Trill" NNTP-Posting-Host: crl6.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970516; sun4m SunOS 4.1.3_U1] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29250 comp.sys.next.misc:26092 I can't seem to reach peanuts.leo.org from here, so I thought I'd ask whether anyone knew what toner cartridges NeXT laser printers would take. -- hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be. __________________________________________________ > Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too > U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." > seanlNoSpam@cs.umd.edu URL: http://nospam.www.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/ > aside from UPS's to keep the juice flowing, I think late model NeXT's have a pref panel choice for auto power on after power failure. it doesn't work on mine and I don't remember the rom ver. #. perhaps it's turbos and up? it might be a faq... -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!hpp.Stanford.EDU!kpfleger From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.solaris.x86 Subject: PC vendors who know Unix (Linux, Openstep, Solaris, etc.) Date: 11 Jun 1997 00:21:04 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 77 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5nkr1g$l9t$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpp.stanford.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:82238 comp.sys.next.hardware:29251 alt.solaris.x86:2574 After buying computers from the likes of Gateway, Dell, etc. for a while, for my most recent computer purchase I started investigating the world of smaller x86 based PC vendors who know various flavors of Unix well and can ship turn-key systems with multiboot capability and many OSes preinstalled. I was very pleasantly surprised to see a handful of really good vendors out there. Even if you don't get preinstalled OSes, they can be a great resource for buying PCs with components guaranteed to be compatible with your favorite OS, and for the most part much more appropriate for preemptive, multitasking operating systems like Unix than the components of the major high volume PC vendors. Since I was generally very impressed with both the web sites of these vendors and the interactions I had with the 3 or 4 I actually interacted with, I thought I would post here to let everyone know what is out there. I have repeatedly seen requests for lists of vendors like this, so hopefully this will be helpful to someone. Here is the list I compiled, which is almost certainly not complete: Apache Digital Corporation http://www.apache.com/ ASL Workstations http://www.aslab.com/ Bifrost Workstations http://www.bifrostworks.com/ Linux Hardware Solutions http://www.linux-hw.com/ Net Express http://www.tdl.com/~netex/ SW Technology http://www.swt.com/ VA Research http://www.varesearch.com/ All ship Linux systems (except Bifrost) and most will install Win95 or WinNT or even OS/2 as well, and some know a thing or two about other OSes as well. In particular, Bifrost concentrates on Openstep. Apache also knows Openstep well, and will sell or install it. Net Express appears to know a bit about what is compatible with it, but I'm not sure whether they will install it or sell it, or how up-to-date their knowledge of recent versions is. Net Express and possibly others also know Solaris x86. A few specific comments: - Net Express has the most informative web site I've ever seen. It's great. They also have a wonderfully simple a la carte pricing policy. Plus, their sales and tech e-mail staff are great. My e-mail interaction with them was wonderful. Even after I made it clear that i wasn't going to get my system from them, they were helpful and informative. Another point: they have great memory prices (at least for the kind I need). - Bifrost was so open and upfront that when I told them I wanted my system to be able to run Linux as well as Openstep, they referred me to Apache. I think this is spectacular, and I recommend them to anyone who wants a solely Openstep machine. - Apache had the most knowledge specifically straddling Linux and Openstep and they were great both on the phone and over e-mail. - SWT had one of the largest selections of components to choose from. More importantly, it was just about the only one of the vendors to offer a 30-day no-questions-asked money-back guarantee (not including shipping of course). This is the one thing that alarmed me most about these vendors: that they will not let you return a working system if you don't like it for some reason. Some of the vendors claimed that such 30-day return policies, which are standard in the big vendors like Dell and Gateway, are slowly changing and that more and more vendors will have a no return for working merchandise policy soon. Some rightfully claimed it as an advantage of sorts in that they guarantee never to send you pre-owned but returned parts. - ASL had really good deals (for the systems I looked at and at the time that I looked). I don't know as much about the others, but that isn't to say they are in any way inferior. I won't tell you which I actually ordered my system from since the differences between them are so small as to make any choice very situation dependent. I have a feeling that with any of these vendors you can't really go too wrong. Happy computer shopping. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.internetmci.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!news From: Free Cable Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER BUILD YOUR OWN DESCRAMBLER FAST CHEAP AND EASY Date: 11 Jun 1997 00:02:40 GMT Organization: Free Cable Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5nkpv0$e72@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cnc023091.concentric.net CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER BUILD YOUR OWN DESCRAMBLER FAST CHEAP AND EASY Just a few inexpensive parts from Radio Shack and a little time and you can descramble every cable channel. See all your favorite movie channels,pay per view etc To recieve detail instructions and diagrams on how to construct your own Cable Box Descrambler Mail $5.00 CASH MONEY ORDER CHECK S&G Enterprise 12145 Augusta Woods Cir Suite 3 Orlando FL. 32824 Please be sure to include your full name & address Allow 10 days to recieve Thank You Seth Garner #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!HiWAAY.net!not-for-mail From: Trey or Gwen McClendon Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz trouble with NS3.3 on Intel Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:45:54 -0500 Organization: haphazard Lines: 30 Message-ID: <339DF542.2AFD@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: tgm@hiwaay.net NNTP-Posting-Host: tnt1-6.hiwaay.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) I'm having a bit of trouble with a Jaz drive. I built a filesystem on it a few days ago, but it 'crashed' today. The system cannot successfully install a new file system on it because it gets to many SCSI retry errors. It will die at various places. I guess it somehow made it the first time without reaching some error limit. I've tried the disktab from NeXT and the disktab off the net (skylee.com, et.al.). I've done the Format command from disk. Does anyone know what I could try next? The jaz is connected to a Pentium system (ASUS SCSI with Symbios Logic driver v3.33). There other devices, including a Zip drive that works fine, on the SCSI chain. I've removed everything but the Jaz and still have trouble. Here is the SCSI rundown: ID=0, Boot NeXT disk ID=2, Windows hard disk ID=3, jaz drive. The drive works fine in windows. I took the problem disk and did the 21 minute format and no errors were found with the disk. Thanks in advance for any tips. It is important that I get this drive to work if possible. trey #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!not-for-mail From: maria_eugenia@jump.net (Maria Eugenia Tapia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: /dev/cufb: Permission denied Date: 10 Jun 1997 20:49:15 -0500 Organization: Jump Point Communications, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5nl06r$f6c@serv1.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: serv1-2.jump.net I got a new internal HDD for my NeXTStation (040, 25Mhz non-turbo) and re-loaded NS3.1. Everything went well, except that now I cannot get kermit (or pppd) to 'grab' the tty device to dial out: /dev/cufb: Permission denied Sorry, access to tty device denied As root things work OK. What would cause this, and how could I fix it. Thank you very much for any information. Maria Eugenia Tapia (maria_eugenia@jump.net) (PS. Thanks (Tim Luoma) for the info on SCSI drives) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.scruz.net!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5nkpv0$e72@chronicle.concentric.net> Date: 11 Jun 1997 00:46:56 GMT Control: cancel <5nkpv0$e72@chronicle.concentric.net> Message-ID: Sender: Free Cable X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.easystreet.com!not-for-mail From: "Kevin M. Taggart" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is required of an internal scsi hd to work on a slab? Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:56:48 -0700 Organization: Easystreet Online Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <339E05E0.5C15EF0E@easystreet.com> References: <5nffrp$lcb$1@celebrian.otago.ac.nz> <865966619.22202@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-0120.easystreet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) When the drive was in the external housing, it was not terminated, as more SCSI devices could be added to the chain. As an internal device, it will need to be terminated as it is the last device on the internal SCSI chain. Some drives (older Maxtor's, for example) are terminated via two resister packs, while others require only a jumper be set. --KT ctiveness and versatility. I would like to purchase one also. Thanks in advance, Heath Tucker heatht@mindspring.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.nether.net!news.he.net!news.scruz.net!usenet From: ken@kdl.sc.scruznet.com (Ken Latta) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.solaris.x86 Subject: Re: PC vendors who know Unix (Linux, Openstep, Solaris, etc.) Date: 11 Jun 1997 04:55:41 GMT Organization: scruz-net Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5nlb4d$8k0@news.scruz.net> References: <5nkr1g$l9t$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.227.101.47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:82253 comp.sys.next.hardware:29257 alt.solaris.x86:2577 In article <5nkr1g$l9t$1@nntp.stanford.edu>, kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) writes: > After buying computers from the likes of Gateway, Dell, etc. for a while, > for my most recent computer purchase I started investigating the world of > smaller x86 based PC vendors who know various flavors of Unix well and can > ship turn-key systems with multiboot capability and many OSes preinstalled. > > Since I was generally very impressed with both the web sites of these vendors > and the interactions I had with the 3 or 4 I actually interacted with, > I thought I would post here to let everyone know what is out there. > I have repeatedly seen requests for lists of vendors like this, so hopefully > this will be helpful to someone. Here is the list I compiled, which is almost > certainly not complete: > Apache Digital Corporation http://www.apache.com/ > ASL Workstations http://www.aslab.com/ > Bifrost Workstations http://www.bifrostworks.com/ > Linux Hardware Solutions http://www.linux-hw.com/ > Net Express http://www.tdl.com/~netex/ > SW Technology http://www.swt.com/ > VA Research http://www.varesearch.com/ One more that I find very satisfying Lindsay Computer Systems http://www.jump.net/~lcs/ I have purchased a couple of workstations from VA Research and they were both good units. Recently I purchased several units from Lindsay, which unfortunately are required to run some unspeakable imitation Operating System. They are very helpful Linux literate and Caldera Resellers. -- Ken Latta ken@kdl.sc.scruznet.com **** If you're not running Linux, you paid too much. **** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: meson1@aol.com (Meson1) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: An audio question... Date: 11 Jun 1997 06:02:10 GMT Lines: 9 Message-ID: <19970611060200.CAA00690@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com I'm wondering if anyone knows how I might cram a S/PDIF (coaxial or optical) signal into the DSP port on a NeXT . Anyone? Thanks, Michael #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!news.internetMCI.com!not-for-mail From: Photoagent@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Attention All Photographers Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 02:37:36 Organization: Internet MCI Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5nlgvj$eqc$1101@news.internetmci.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: usr7-dialup42.mix2.atlanta.mci.net PHOTO PHOENIX INTERNATIONAL We are an international New York based agency representing professional and amateur photographers in the following areas: Galleries, Business and Organizations, Book Publishers, Paper Products, Consumer Publication, Newspapers & Newsletters Publication, Special Interest Publication, and Trade Publication. 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Send to: Photo Phoenix International 33-29 58 Street Woodside, New York 11377 Tele: Florida Branch-(941) 642-660 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!newsgate.unisource.nl!fido.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!194.121.224.3!cyberspam!usenet From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Organization: Dental Records (R) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.config Subject: cmsg cancel <5nklth$94f@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: Control: cancel <5nklth$94f@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de References: <5nklth$94f@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 06:37:59 +1 X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 5 EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "Woodside" or "summary of auto-cancellations" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Re: Auto-Powerup for NeXTstations. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5nlgvj$eqc$1101@news.internetmci.com> Date: 11 Jun 1997 07:00:07 GMT Control: cancel <5nlgvj$eqc$1101@news.internetmci.com> Message-ID: Sender: Photoagent@ibm.net X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Auto-Powerup for NeXTstations Date: 11 Jun 1997 08:16:37 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5nlmt5$8ac$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5nk0lh$623@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu In <5nk0lh$623@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Sean Luke wrote: > Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I'm wondering if there's any conceivable way > to force a NeXTstation to not turn itself off when the power is cut; that > is, if the power to a building (say) is cut, and then resupplied, the > NeXTstation automatically boots without a user having to press the power key. It has been asked before, but I'm not sure that it is an _F_AQ.... This is only possible with some chips/ROMs/motherboards something..... check preferences.app... if you have a 'power on after power failure' or something like that, then you have the right stuff, if not, join the club... TjL ps -- Rhapsody should have this!!!! -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g' #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!bernard From: bernard@cyllene.uwa.edu.au (Bernard Cena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: IDE OpenStep 4.1 setup Date: 11 Jun 1997 08:56:28 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5nlp7s$hqv$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: cyllene.uwa.edu.au X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #18 (NOV) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27065 comp.sys.next.hardware:29261 Hi! I've got an EIDE/Intel based OpenStep 4.1 setup with two 3 GB hard disks set up as masters on the first (Disk A) and second (Disk B) EIDE channels with an ATAPI CD-ROM set up as slave on the primary channel (such is the install requirement for 4.1). I have successfully installed OpenStep 4.1 on a partition on the disk A (Windog 95 is on there too *blush*). >>>This is what I'd like to do: I want to shift OpenStep to live on disk B (master,second EIDE channel) on a 1.5GB partition (the rest will be a Linux partition) and be able to boot it from a floppy or Linux LILO bootloader. How do I do this so everything is happy ? >>>This is what I've tried: I used the build disk gizmo to make an OpenStep partition on disk B (it copied everything there for me that I had on my partition on disk A). The problem is I cann't boot it :( I tried doing the common sense thing at boot prompt: hd(1)mach_kernel root=/dev/hd1a (and related combinations ) - I get through quite a bit of the boot procedure until it looks for the root device where it gives up saying it cann't find it :( The other thing that I thought would be obvious was to ditch drive A and set up drive B as master/primary EIDE channel with the CD-ROM as slave and re-install OpenStep from scratch on that, except for some stupid reason (oh how I love PC's! *grrr*) the BIOS won't recognise the CD-ROM in conjunction with that PARTICULAR drive (works fine with the other!) *sigh*. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Cheers, Bernard Cena #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!News1.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing 3.1 with an IDE CD-Rom Date: 7 Jun 1997 20:48:09 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5nche9$6gk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <3397B240.1E1A@evcom.net> <8na3cYW00UhB01mmcT@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] hmmmmm when I got my 3.1 at a surplus a while ago.. I phoned NeXT and they sent me a 3.2 which still needs SCSI BTW.. but at least it gets you one level up..=) Godwin Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Jun-97 Installing 3.1 : with an IDE .. by Charles Esteban Paul@evc : > I just purchased NeXtStep 3.1 (still in shrink wrap) and I have been : > devestated by the installation procedure which requires a SCSI CD-ROM : > drive. : Yep. NS 3.1 was the first version released for Intel hardware, and it : had only a very limited hardware support, as you've discovered. : > Is there any way to point the installation program towards the IDE drive : > instead of the non-existant SCSI drive? Has this problem ever occured : > before? I would appreciate any help I can get :) : Your best bet would be to get a more modern version of NEXTSTEP since it : supported installing from IDE drives around 3.3, as well as supporting : much more hardware (and doing a better/less buggy job of that support, : as well). : -Chuck : Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer : ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- : I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!not-for-mail From: groenvel@cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.solaris.x86 Subject: Re: PC vendors who know Unix (Linux, Openstep, Solaris, etc.) Date: 11 Jun 1997 12:58:30 -0400 Organization: Department of Computer Science and Egineering, The Pennsylvania State University Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5nmlfm$rto$1@tholian.cse.psu.edu> References: <5nkr1g$l9t$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: tholian.cse.psu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:82307 comp.sys.next.hardware:29264 alt.solaris.x86:2586 For Solaris x86 systems and software, you must not forget EIS http://www.eis.com/. They deserve some kudos for hosting the solaris-x86 mailing list. John groenvel@cse.psu.edu #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT printer:Who can repair? References: Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <339e4a13.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 11 Jun 97 06:47:47 GMT Lines: 37 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!uunet!207.167.14.9!scanner.worldgate.com!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article , Kitty Letsch wrote: >In my university, our department has several NeXT printers in need of >cleaning and/or repair. Our computing facilities does not have much support >for NeXT. Any suggestions of a local service that might repair these >printers? In the Baltimore area? luomat@peak.org runs a web site with all kinds of useful NeXT information on it, including things like how to fix NeXT printers. Depends what's wrong with the ones you have, but with the info available any competent technician should be able to fix them The usual big problems are a stripped (plastic) gear wheel in the mechanism that spits the paper out after printing (the sheet doesn't come all the way out) and a perished rubber input roller (the machine won't feed paper in). Then there are minor problems like replacing the EPS toner unit and cleaning the various inside bits. The output problem requires replacing the little gear wheel, the input problem requires reversing the rubber sleeve on the input roller. Both involves partially dismantling the paper transport mechanism, which I am pretty sure are covered in the site above. Of course, you may have some other problem. Cheaper to buy a working used printer than to have Bell Atlantic fix it I think. Good luck. david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is required of an internal scsi hd to work on a slab? Date: 11 Jun 1997 22:33:35 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <19970611223300.SAA02075@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5nffrp$lcb$1@celebrian.otago.ac.nz> first of all, internal and external scsi chains, or busses should be seperate, and individually terminated, with known good terminators. second, make sure the scsi id matches what next wants. next on a pc, turn off ide, then call for help. UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order in Maryland PowerStar Inc. home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar NEW: Special pricing at: http://members.aol.com/JCarr37863/index.html 800-209-5556 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.215.209.8!news.win.net!usenet From: marco@marcorp.win.net (Marco C. Mason) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.solaris.x86 Subject: Re: PC vendors who know Unix (Linux, Openstep, Solaris, etc.) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 21:47:06 GMT Organization: For Personal Use Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5nmdes$hs8@news.win.net> References: <5nkr1g$l9t$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <5nlb4d$8k0@news.scruz.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-135.win.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:82324 comp.sys.next.hardware:29267 alt.solaris.x86:2587 If you're interested in Solaris x86, I've found EIS to be a very good company to deal with. (They maintain a nice mailing list for Sol x86, and configure desktop & laptop computers.) Check 'em out at: www.eis.com --Marco It appears that ken@kdl.sc.scruznet.com (Ken Latta) said: >In article <5nkr1g$l9t$1@nntp.stanford.edu>, > kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) writes: >> After buying computers from the likes of Gateway, Dell, etc. for a while, >> for my most recent computer purchase I started investigating the world of >> smaller x86 based PC vendors who know various flavors of Unix well and can >> ship turn-key systems with multiboot capability and many OSes preinstalled. >> >> Since I was generally very impressed with both the web sites of these vendors >> and the interactions I had with the 3 or 4 I actually interacted with, >> I thought I would post here to let everyone know what is out there. >> I have repeatedly seen requests for lists of vendors like this, so hopefully >> this will be helpful to someone. Here is the list I compiled, which is almost >> certainly not complete: >> Apache Digital Corporation http://www.apache.com/ >> ASL Workstations http://www.aslab.com/ >> Bifrost Workstations http://www.bifrostworks.com/ >> Linux Hardware Solutions http://www.linux-hw.com/ >> Net Express http://www.tdl.com/~netex/ >> SW Technology http://www.swt.com/ >> VA Research http://www.varesearch.com/ >One more that I find very satisfying > Lindsay Computer Systems http://www.jump.net/~lcs/ > >I have purchased a couple of workstations from VA Research and they were >both good units. Recently I purchased several units from Lindsay, which >unfortunately are required to run some unspeakable imitation Operating >System. They are very helpful Linux literate and Caldera Resellers. >-- > Ken Latta > ken@kdl.sc.scruznet.com > **** If you're not running Linux, you paid too much. **** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: /dev/cufb: Permission denied Date: 11 Jun 1997 22:37:55 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 155 Message-ID: <5nn9c3$jcv$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5nl06r$f6c@serv1.jump.net> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: maria_eugenia@jump.net In <5nl06r$f6c@serv1.jump.net> Maria Eugenia Tapia wrote: > I got a new internal HDD for my NeXTStation (040, 25Mhz non-turbo) > and re-loaded NS3.1. Everything went well, except that now I cannot > get kermit (or pppd) to 'grab' the tty device to dial out: > > /dev/cufb: Permission denied > Sorry, access to tty device denied This is a basic UNIX setting, so that common users cannot get access to the modem lines.... if you look at it in terminal.app or in 'Listing' mode in WM crw------- 1 root wheel 7, 160 Jun 11 00:20 /dev/cufa The "crw-------" are the permissions for the file. You can read all about them by typing 'man chmod' in Terminal.app. For now a quick overview: Permissions are a set of 4 "fields", the first letter is its own field, and then there are 3 fields each with three letters in it. So from our example above: 1 2 3 4 c rw- --- --- Field #1 tells you what type of file or directory this is. "c" is a special character, you won't see that one very often. Usually it will be a "-" (for a normal file) or a "d" for a directory, or a "l" for a link. Field #2 describes the access for the "OWNER" of the file (in our example it is the user "root". The "r" : The "r" means that root can "read" the file, that is, whoever is logged in as "root" can read that file... (for this example it does not make as much sense as if this was just a plain ASCII file) The "w" : The "w" means that root can "write" the file, that is, whoever is logged in as root can alter the file The "-" : The "-" after the "w" means that the file is NOT executable. If it was executable, you would see an "x" there instead. Field #3 is exactly the same as Field #2, except that it describes the access permissions for other members of the "GROUP", which in this case is "wheel". GROUPs in UNIX are setup to give certain people access to files/directories which you do not want everyone to be able to read, but more than just the OWNER. Note: in terminal.app when you do 'ls -l somefile' you will not see the group listed there. To do that you have to use the "-g" flag, as in this example: # without the -g flag, 'ls' does not show the group % /bin/ls -l /usr/local/bin/someprogram -rwxr-xr-- 1 luomat 13593 Jun 11 17:39 /usr/local/bin/someprogram # with the -g flag, the group is shown % /bin/ls -lg /usr/local/bin/someprogram -rwxr-xr-- 1 luomat wheel 13593 Jun 11 17:39 /usr/local/bin/someprogram Field #4 : Field #4 is the same as #2 and #3, except that it refers to "OTHER" users. OTHER users are defined as users who are not the owner, and not members of the same group So in this example: % /bin/ls -lg /usr/local/bin/someprogram -rwxr-xr-- 1 luomat wheel 13593 Jun 11 17:39 /usr/local/bin/someprogram "-" = we see it is a normal file (ie not a link or directory) "rwx" = the OWNER (here it is "luomat") has READ, WRITE, and EXECUTE permissions "r-x" = other members of the GROUP (here "wheel") can both READ and EXECUTE the file. They cannot WRITE (there is no "w" there, instead we see a "-") "r--" = Users who are NOT luomat and who are NOT in the group "wheel" can read this file, but they cannot write or execute it [this is often used if you want to show someone a program but not let them run it] > As root things work OK. What would cause this, and how could I fix it. Well, assuming /dev/cufa is "crw-------" you now know why it works as root and as no one else, correct? If you would like others to have access to this, you need to tell the file who should be able to access it. Only the owner of the file (root) can change the permissions. [Note: root can change any permissions to an file, of course] If you just want other members of the group to be able to access it, you need to give them "read" access with the "chmod" command (like "attrib" in DOS") chmod g+r /dev/cufa that says to ADD (the "+") READ permissions (the "r") for members of the GROUP (the "g") Now you might want people not in the group AKA "other". You can do that like this: chmod o+r /dev/cufa Or you could do them both at the same time! chmod go+r /dev/cufa I'm not sure, but for /dev/cufa you might have to give them WRITE access too (usually you DO NOT want to give people WRITE permission if you don't HAVE to) to give GROUP members write access: chmod g+w /dev/cufa OTHER members: chmod o+w /dev/cufa BOTH chmod go+w /dev/cufa AND IF you really wanted to you could do this ALL AT ONCE: chmod go+rw /dev/cufa See 'man chmod' for full details..... > (PS. Thanks (Tim Luoma) for the info on SCSI drives) Don't thank me, I heard it from Bifrost! TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g' #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!chi-news.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (jcarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <19970602220701.SAA01048@ladder02.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970602220701.SAA01048@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: 11 Jun 1997 20:39:25 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-19970602220701.SAA01048@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (jcarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <19970531185501.OAA16013@ladder02.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970531185501.OAA16013@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: 11 Jun 1997 20:42:44 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-19970531185501.OAA16013@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (jcarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <19970602220700.SAA01110@ladder02.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970602220700.SAA01110@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: 11 Jun 1997 20:43:50 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-19970602220700.SAA01110@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!gmv.es!news.IAEhv.nl!news1.netusa.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (jcarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <19970604234901.TAA11959@ladder02.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970604234901.TAA11959@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: 11 Jun 1997 20:45:32 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-19970604234901.TAA11959@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!nick.arc.nasa.gov!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: thoughts and Daydreams Date: 11 Jun 1997 20:23:55 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 56 Message-ID: <5nnfir$fmp@umbc9.umbc.edu> References: <339e13b0.2991831@news.mindspring.com> <5nn3ts$713@nntp02.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc9.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: bhurle1 The real question about these that I have is: If Apple decides to support the older 68k macs, and you use this "little tan box", will you be able to run rhapsody on black? bryan In article <5nn3ts$713@nntp02.primenet.com>, Robert Worne wrote: >In <339e13b0.2991831@news.mindspring.com> Heath Tucker wrote: >> I am hoping that someone can answer a few questions I have about Quix >> (I think?) Daydreams, Mac rom boards for NeXTs. >> >> 1. Were many manufactured? > >This I don't know, but they were available new up until recently. I *do* >know that QUIX stopped further development of the NeXT version of it >(via an E-mail from QUIX). > >> 2. Are they NeXTbus cards similar to the NeXTdimension with >> regards to how they are installed? > >No, it's a tan case approximately the size of a pack of playing cards that >has a ribbon cable which plugs into the NeXT DSP port. > >> 3. Has anyone seen one for sale recently (within the last year?) > >I have seen them for sale, comp.sys.next.marketplace. They can fetch up to >$500-600 in some cases. > >> 4. Will they work with NeXTdimension equiped cubes? > >Yes they will, and probably with the best results. They run so-so on Color >slabs due to improper handling of certain colors. QUIX told me that a >Dimension >does not have any of these problems. > >> If anyone has an answer to any of these, or has experience using a >> Daydream please email me with comments on their effectiveness and >> versatility. I would like to purchase one also. > >Unfortunately, I have no idea where to pick one up now... > >The most current version (known to me) is: ROMBox REV 1.31 and kernel >v2.11 > >-- >Robert Worne [mail to me with the URL below:] >Mail: http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/email.html >//-----------------------------------------------------------------// >Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" >//-----------------------------------------------------------------// >Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!chi-news.cic.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (jcarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <19970608150200.LAA28949@ladder02.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970608150200.LAA28949@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: 11 Jun 1997 20:47:36 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-19970608150200.LAA28949@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!EU.net!chi-news.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (jcarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <19970524162800.MAA02631@ladder01.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970524162800.MAA02631@ladder01.news.aol.com> Date: 11 Jun 1997 20:37:56 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-19970524162800.MAA02631@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uniol!informatik.uni-bremen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!btnet!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!ix.netcom.com!enews.sgi.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (jcarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <19970517144900.KAA27557@ladder02.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970517144900.KAA27557@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: 11 Jun 1997 20:32:06 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-19970517144900.KAA27557@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!gmv.es!news.IAEhv.nl!news1.netusa.net!feed1.news.erols.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jcarr37863@aol.com (jcarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <19970525192001.PAA08354@ladder01.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970525192001.PAA08354@ladder01.news.aol.com> Date: 11 Jun 1997 20:32:07 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-19970525192001.PAA08354@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!easynet-uk!btnet-feed2!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bhars12c.bnr.co.uk!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!cayouett From: cayouett@bmerh189.ca.nortel.com (Daniel Cayouette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black printer starting to smudge print-outs Date: 12 Jun 1997 02:00:16 GMT Organization: Nortel (Northern Telecom) Message-ID: <5nnl7g$5f4@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> References: <5nel62$6d1@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <1997Jun9.202849.1030@gamelan.shnet.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: bmerh189.bnr.ca Lines: 26 Is there anything special with a cartridge for a black printer? Or can I just get any Canon compatible cartridge? Thanks, Daniel In article <1997Jun9.202849.1030@gamelan.shnet.org>, Thomas F. Unke wrote: >In <5nel62$6d1@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Daniel Cayouette wrote: >> My black printer has recently started to print with black smears on >> the paper. I've tried to dust/swipe the insides without any luck. >> >> Any suggestions? Should I replace the original cartridge? > > >Yes, it is the cartridge if cleaning doesn't help. Get a new one ! > > -- Messaging Systems Development Ottawa, Ontario Project Manager - Global Email Interworking Email: Daniel.Cayouette@nortel.ca or Daniel@Cayouette.com Phone: (613)763-2340 http://47.80.12.186/interop - Messaging Inter-operability Home Page #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: heatht@mindspring.com (Heath Tucker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT printer feed problem Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 02:40:56 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 74 Message-ID: <339f5dac.1353228@news.mindspring.com> References: <339e4a13.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Reply-To: heatht@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kbv1m.dialup.mindspring.com X-Server-Date: 12 Jun 1997 02:48:03 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) wrote: >The usual big problems are a stripped (plastic) gear wheel in the mechanism >that spits the paper out after printing (the sheet doesn't come all the way >out) and a perished rubber input roller (the machine won't feed paper in). > >The output problem requires replacing the little gear wheel, the input >problem requires reversing the rubber sleeve on the input roller. Both >involves partially dismantling the paper transport mechanism, which I am >pretty sure are covered in the site above. > >Of course, you may have some other problem. Cheaper to buy a working >used printer than to have Bell Atlantic fix it I think. > >Good luck. > >david >-- >David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more >Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. >hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) >http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! This message falls at a good time for me. I just took ownership of a black next 400dpi printer and it has a problem feeding paper into itself. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what they think of these symptoms and behaviors: The printer tries to print. It pulls the paper very quickly about 1 inch in, and then pauses. It is at this point that it usually jams. The paper simply doesn't move anymore even though I can hear the gears inside the printer working away. The interesting part is this. If I pop the cover for a second and close it, it makes a clunking noise, warms up for a second and then pulls the paper the rest of the way in and prints perfectly, except that the text is not centered vertically, it appears nearly at the bottom of the page with a huge top margin. As a side note, I can make it pull in the paper every time if I use the slider in the the paper tray to force the stack of paper to actually stick up over the end and out of the tray. This literally forces the stack into the printer's mouth when I shove the tray back in. The additional push that forcing the paper in gives at feed time allows the printer to pull the entire page in, but it is still horribly off skew towards the bottom. My question (you knew I had to have one in here somewhere): I do not have an original NeXT paper tray. I am using what I think is a HP tray (it is black, but I was told that it isnt a NeXT tray by the guy who I got it from, there is no writing on the tray). Should I try to get an original NeXT tray and see if this feeds the paper correctly to the machine and all is well (for about $20)? Could an improper tray cause this problem? I have enver seen a NeXT printer tray before so I don't know if the trays are nonstandard. Or, should I try to disassemble the printer and flip the intake roller as described above? Does anyone have any experience doing this and if so, are my symptoms like yours were before the fix? The rubber on the roller seems to be in decent shape and it will feed somewhat. Well, I hope someone can give me some details on what a working NeXT laser does if nothing else :) Is the rapid feeding and then a pause normal? Is a clunk after opening the cover normal etc.? If you have read this far, thanks in advance, Heath Tucker #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer toner cartidge? References: <5nkome$6ca$1@nnrp1.crl.com> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <339e4aa6.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 11 Jun 97 06:50:14 GMT Lines: 20 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.he.net!news.pagesat.net!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29273 comp.sys.next.misc:26109 In article <5nkome$6ca$1@nnrp1.crl.com>, Subir Grewal wrote: >I can't seem to reach peanuts.leo.org from here, so I thought I'd ask >whether anyone knew what toner cartridges NeXT laser printers would >take. > >-- >hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ >Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be. It takes a standard EPS toner cartridge (same as Apple laser writer) david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: An audio question... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:03:21 GMT References: <19970611060200.CAA00690@ladder02.news.aol.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article <19970611060200.CAA00690@ladder02.news.aol.com>, Meson1 wrote: >I'm wondering if anyone knows how I might cram a S/PDIF (coaxial or >optical) signal into the DSP port on a NeXT . > As I recall the Ariel box will do this, but for some reason I can't recall what it's called. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!not-for-mail From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: An audio question... Date: 12 Jun 1997 03:58:47 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5nns5n$plh$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <19970611060200.CAA00690@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: meson1@aol.com In <19970611060200.CAA00690@ladder02.news.aol.com> Meson1 wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone knows how I might cram a S/PDIF (coaxial or > optical) signal into the DSP port on a NeXT . > > Anyone? > > > Thanks, > > Michael > On an original NeXT, you need an S/PDIF convertor box like the Singular Solutions A/D64x which I think is still being made, alternatively, the Stealth DAI2400 or the Ariel ProDAT devices did the same thing, but AFAIK both are no longer available. All come with a port which interfaces with the NeXT DSP port. I have a 64x which has an advantage of having balanced Microphone and Line inputs to ADCs as well as S/PDIF I/O. With a loopback connector on the back it can operate as a standalone ADC. The disadvantage it is expensive ~US$950. I actually run mine through an iLink i56 board in a PC, but that is no longer the best way to go for PC users unless you want to use the MusicKit or Synthbuilder. There is now a driver for an AdB Multiwav sound card which has S/PDIF & AES/EBU connectors on the back of the ISA board. -- Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia Smith +61-9-9380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "Home pages are the pet rock of the 90s. We all have them, we all think they're very cute. But in a few years we're going to look back and be pretty embarrassed." -- Tony Shepps "Why wait?" -- Peter Langston #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: clueit@willowtech.com (Gary Clueit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: QLogic SCSI Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 04:19:26 GMT Organization: Willow Technology, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <33a0784d.47002488@news.wco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: monterey.willowtech.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 Hello, Anyone know of a driver (4.2/intel) for QLogic SCSI controllers? Have a few of them I would like to use. TIA. _______________________ Gary Clueit Willow Technology, Inc. clueit@willowtech.com _______________________ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!brokaw.wa.com!not-for-mail From: ihate@spammers.com (bf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help! Monitor Sync Problems! Ack! Date: 12 Jun 1997 03:45:34 GMT Organization: Crack Whores of America Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5nnrcu$nr6$1@brokaw.wa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-mx100-ip9.halcyon.com X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0.7@blv-mx100-ip9.halcyon.com X-Authenticated: larryf on POP host 0.0.0.0 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29277 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27070 I have a Colorstation ADB running NS 3.3/3.2 on it with a 17" megapixel std. next color monitor. For some reason, upon boot up the colorstation cant seem to sync with the monitor and ends up getting a jumbled image. It usually takes 5-6 power-ons before it can finally sync up. Whats going on here?? -b -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.halcyon.com/larryf/ -- Email: larryf at halcyon dot com ----------------------------------------------------- --NOTE: Email address in header is fake due to spam-- -------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: lappe@neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Markus Lappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Adaptec 2940 AU Date: 12 Jun 1997 05:28:23 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5no1dn$sqm$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeannie.neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29278 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27071 Hi there, we just got a new Pentium computer on which we wanted to install Nextstep 3.3. Unfortunately, it seems that the driver for the SCSI Adapter does not work. The Adapter is a new Adaptec 2940AU. We are using the driver version 3.37, downloaded from Nextanswers several weeks ago. During install, we receive an error message saying "Cannot get config space, no SCSI adapter found". Any help would be appreciated. Markus #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infi.net!news.infi.net!not-for-mail From: brianm@outing.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Product Annoucement Date: 12 Jun 1997 07:09:57 GMT Organization: THE Inc Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5no7c5$olp$68@nw001.infi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm2-76.orf.infi.net Hey, just thought i'd share with everyone, I found a site with loads of nude CHEERLEADERs. The address is: http://www.mid-night.com/cheer.htm --Jason-- (Sorry for the intrusion, everyone needs some short skirts in their life) P.S. They also have a few thounsand celebrities but im not into that. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.apfel.de!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!oleane!jussieu.fr!eurocontrol.fr!polaris.eurocontrol.fr!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: brianm@outing.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 12 Jun 1997 07:09:57 GMT Message-ID: Subject: cmsg cancel <5no7c5$olp$68@nw001.infi.net> Control: cancel <5no7c5$olp$68@nw001.infi.net> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Approved: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr X-Cancelled-By: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Newsposter: cancel-spam version 1.24 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 9 ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Thu Jun 12 13:34:11 1997 Original subject was: Product Annoucement #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!cc344191-a!luomat From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT printer:Who can repair? Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:45:21 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <339e4a13.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@cc344191-a In-Reply-To: <339e4a13.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On 11 Jun 1997, David Hill wrote: > luomat@peak.org runs a web site with all kinds of useful NeXT information > on it, including things like how to fix NeXT printers. Thanks for the pointer..... As much as I'd like to believe that everyone knows the URL, I'll give it again anyway ;-) http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g' #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wetware!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!cc344191-a!luomat From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black printer starting to smudge print-outs Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:56:53 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5nel62$6d1@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <1997Jun9.202849.1030@gamelan.shnet.org> <5nnl7g$5f4@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@cc344191-a To: Daniel Cayouette In-Reply-To: <5nnl7g$5f4@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On 12 Jun 1997, Daniel Cayouette wrote: > Is there anything special with a cartridge for a black printer? Or can > I just get any Canon compatible cartridge? Searching dejanews for the word 'toner' in this newsgroup should bring up about 85,000 posts.... Toner cartridge for HP Laserjet II, IID,III, IID HP ref : HP 92295A (that is what you will see on the box) There are others, this is the easiest one to find (Staples, Sam's, Office Depot).... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g' #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!rjacobs.Stanford.EDU!rob From: "Robert G. Jacobs" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP JetDirect Printer on NS3.0 -- can it be done? Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:54:06 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rjacobs.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm wondering if I can hook up an HP printer with a JetDirect ethernet interface to an old black station running 3.0. Has anyone done it? Clearly it's not standard. What are my options? Thanks. Robert #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.cuhk.edu.hk!news.erg.cuhk.edu.hk!maews5!skwong From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is the U-SCSI, SCSI-3 HD compatible in black NeXTcube turbo ? Date: 12 Jun 1997 16:51:10 GMT Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5np9du$9tf@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> NNTP-Posting-Host: maews5.mae.cuhk.edu.hk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] My Fujitsu 1GB HD was damaged (it hang me around for over 1 yr). I sourced some drives in HK: Quantum TM3200S Fireball Series Ultra SCSI 3.2GB US$327 Segate ST-52160N Medalist Series U-SCSI 2.1GB US$248 Segate ST-51080N Medalist Series SCSI-2 1GB US$200 I found there are many terms like Ultra-Wide SCSI, SCSI-3, ... Are the new technologies compatible with NeXTcube ? It seems the Segate 2.1GB is far cost effective than the 1GB but does it work with the NeXT ? Do I just plug in, select the correct ID, boot up and answer 'initialize' from the dialog box, then I can mount and use it ? Thanks in advance. Mr.Sai-Kee Wong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cambridge-news.cygnus.com!not-for-mail From: Mike Meissner Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.solaris.x86 Subject: Re: PC vendors who know Unix (Linux, Openstep, Solaris, etc.) Date: 12 Jun 1997 12:39:39 -0400 Organization: Cygnus Solutions Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <5nkr1g$l9t$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: tiktok.cygnus.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:82414 comp.sys.next.hardware:29285 alt.solaris.x86:2590 kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) writes: > After buying computers from the likes of Gateway, Dell, etc. for a while, > for my most recent computer purchase I started investigating the world of > smaller x86 based PC vendors who know various flavors of Unix well and can > ship turn-key systems with multiboot capability and many OSes preinstalled. You might want to add: HiQ http://www.hiq.com Promo X http://www.promox.com -- Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (East Coast) 4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA meissner@cygnus.com, 617-354-5416 (office), 617-354-7161 (fax) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.urz.tu-dresden.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!199.177.127.11!news.sojourn.com!not-for-mail From: John Goggan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is the proper Soundbox text sound? Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 13:04:47 -0400 Organization: Sojourn Systems Ltd. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33A02C2E.6FA4@dcg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm011-12.dialip.mich.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Hello there. I recently acquire my first color Station -- and, therefore, my first SoundBox. I've been having some sound problems and my question is this: what does the "normal" startup test sound sound like through a SoundBox? Is it different than with a mono station? I'm getting a sound that is rather high-pitched -- but maybe that is just they way the test-beep sounds on a SoundBox and I just don't know it! :) So -- if someone could try to describe the proper startup sound or, better yet, if some kind soul could send me a WAV or AU or something of what the startup test-beep sounds like coming out of a SoundBox, I would appreciate it. Actually, WAV would be preferred so that I can easily play it on my PC -- playing it on my possibly-bad-sound Station would kind of make the test a bad one, eh? :) Thanks very much. - John (Goggan)... jgoggan@dcg.com P.S. I cannot currently decode NeXTMail (at least, not very easily), so if you mail a sounds, please use a simple format such as plain UUencoding or Base64 encoding. Or a MIME attachment. Thanks. Or, better yet, if someone wants to upload the soundfile to me, just drop it at: ftp://ftp.dcg.com/incoming/ Thanks! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.m.shuttle.de!news.b.shuttle.de!news.k.shuttle.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.uni-paderborn.de!bignews.mediaways.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!zdc-e!super.zippo.com!szdc!zippo!drn From: rmitchel@cymitar.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: built-in screensaver question... Date: 12 Jun 1997 08:24:31 -0700 Organization: None Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5np4bf$6kj@drn.zippo.com> I noticed that like most *NIX systems, NS has a feature that automatically blacks out the monitor after a time specified within the preferences.app. I'm wondering if this only blacks out the monitor (i.e. fills the screen with black) or if it actually powers down the monitor, since the monitor doesn't have a power switch? I would like to be able to leave the machine on 24 hours a day, but if the monitor never actually powers-down or anything, I'd be a little nervous... Thanks for help! -- Mitch #################################################################### Message-ID: <33A08D32.3AD5@ultranet.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:58:42 -0700 From: JOHN HILLS Reply-To: a1b01050@ultranet.ca Organization: J.Hills Radiology, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-R/CD-RW/UDF File system Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: nwm-modem-170.ultranet.ca Lines: 9 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.bctel.net!news.ultranet.ca!nwm-modem-170.ultranet.ca I am looking at inexpensive solutions to disk archival storage. The HP SureStor and Sony CSP-960S CD-R drives look attractive and perhaps the Ricoh MP6200S CD-RW. Can CD-R/CD-RW/UDF File system be used under NeXTstep/OpenStep/Rhapsody/whatever? John Hills jhills@ultranet.ca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!News1.Toronto.iSTAR.net!News1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!morgan.ucs.mun.ca!kwong From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 AU Date: 12 Jun 1997 23:06:12 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5npvd4$3b3$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <5no1dn$sqm$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0+nov (built 96.Apr.19 13:04) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29289 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27080 lappe@neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Markus Lappe) writes: >Hi there, >we just got a new Pentium computer on which we wanted to install Nextstep >3.3. Unfortunately, it seems that the driver for the SCSI Adapter does not >work. The Adapter is a new Adaptec 2940AU. We are using the driver version >3.37, downloaded from Nextanswers several weeks ago. During install, we >receive an error message saying "Cannot get config space, no SCSI adapter >found". >Any help would be appreciated. >Markus Add 0x61789004 to the Auto Detect IDs" for the Adaptec Device. kai -- Software Engineer email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca url: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/ PGP fingerprint <1B 67 F5 6C C4 44 4F 87 52 F7 61 C7 8E D0 36 40> finger kwong@plato.ucs.mun.ca to get PGP public key. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!nick.arc.nasa.gov!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cube memory setup Date: 12 Jun 1997 23:54:24 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5nqg9g$si1@umbc9.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc9.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: bhurle1 So the board has 16 or so 30pin simm slots, what is that 72pin simm slot for? bryan 040 25 20 100 3.2 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: lappe@neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Markus Lappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep Installation Problems Date: 13 Jun 1997 05:57:08 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5nqnfk$q61$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: jeannie.neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27082 comp.sys.next.hardware:29291 Hi, Thanks you all for the many prompt answers I received to my question about how to get the new Adaptec 2940AU to work. Indeed, it was only necessary to add 0x61789004 to the Auto Detect IDs in the defaults.table (and in the instance0.table, too!). However, surely we got subsequently stuck with another problem. Apparently NextStep cannot make a connection to the serial (mouse) port during booting. We receive an error message saying that it cannot reserve IRQ4 and that SerialPort0 is not a valid device. Does anybody know what this might be? Thanks again, Markus #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: lacsap@bait.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: thinkpad 560 display driver Date: 12 Jun 1997 16:39:23 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5np8nr$su6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <5np6eq$rnu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: pascal@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: bait.media.mit.edu I hate to follow up my own posts, but I reloaded from scratch making sure to reload core drivers and it works now. pasc In article <5np6eq$rnu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lacsap@bait.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) writes: > I just got myself a thinkpad 560 active matrix > > pasc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: lacsap@bait.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: thinkpad 560 display driver Date: 12 Jun 1997 16:39:42 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5np8oe$sud@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <5np6eq$rnu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: pascal@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: bait.media.mit.edu I hate to follow up my own posts, but I reloaded from scratch making sure to reload core drivers and it works now. pasc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!colloquy.apple.com!news2.apple.com!not-for-mail From: cue@apple.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Rendition video driver Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 00:14:02 -0700 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <33A0F332.38AD501D@apple.com> References: <865729476.29230@dejanews.com> Reply-To: cue@apple.com NNTP-Posting-Host: macip-ara-46.apple.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I have a PC with an Intergraph Intense 3d Rendition board. This has the Verite processor. Does anyone know of a driver for NextStep 4.2 that will work with it? 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If you have NS Developer (or even User) to sell, I'll consider buying it. thanks john -- --- - ------- ------- The real in us is silent; the acquired is talkative. - Kahlil Gibran jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:51:39 -0600 From: kafkouli@zeus.fiu.edu Subject: Epson Stylus 800 (or any inkjet) with a Nextstation Mono Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <866160980.2052@dejanews.com> Reply-To: kafkouli@zeus.fiu.edu Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: kafkouli@zeus.fiu.edu X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jun 13 00:16:20 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 131.94.2.48 (fiudial48.fiu.edu) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.1.1 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: kafkouli@zeus.fiu.edu Lines: 15 Hello, Has anyone succeded to print on the above inkjet printer (Epson Stylus Color 800) from a NextStation running Openstep 4.0 for Mach? What kind of cable is needed? The printer has a Mac serial mini Din 8 port and a parallel PC port. It seems that the Apple serial cable does not work. I hope someone knows about this. Regards George Kafkoulis -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <339edef2.1@news.netzilla.net> Control: cancel <339edef2.1@news.netzilla.net> Date: 13 Jun 1997 13:44:02 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill@bofh.int Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill@bofh.int X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: fkb0-drt X-Original-Date: 11 Jun 97 17:22:58 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!chi-news.cic.net!ftpbox.mot.com!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.luc.edu!uchinews!leffert From: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu (Jonathan B. Leffert) Subject: weird lines on 17" fimi monitor X-Nntp-Posting-Host: jordan.cs.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #4 (NOV) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:42:35 GMT Lines: 11 I have a 17" FIMI monitor connected to my color slab and I've noticed that there are these strange almost magnetic horizontal lines across the screen. They seem to become less visable when the brightness is reduced. Has anyone seen this before? Is there anything I can do about it? -j -- Jonathan B. Leffert "But on the serious 3.5% tip, 'B' is the second letter of the English Alphabet. You work it out." -- Tone Def, "Fear of a Black Hat" finger -l leffert@cs.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:20:41 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <5njnbf$4vp@mimi.stepman.com> <5njt1d$s1@mimi.stepman.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) gerald@stepman.com,UseNet writes: >There are some romours that DR1 will also be available vor Intel hardwar= e. = From what I have heard that is very unlikely due simply to driver problem= s. Updating each driver to the latest BSD and mach base (those which are = at the core of Rhapsody) would take about a day each. The demos at WWDC w= ere all sitting on top of the older BSD. Of course it's possible they might release it with only a handful of= drivers, but I can hear the howls now if someone had a video card that w= asn't supported... -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.cet.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!News1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!News4.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tape Drives and SafetyNet Date: 13 Jun 1997 15:48:46 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts3-03.edm.istar.ca X-Image-URL: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul/Images/jsamsonFace.jpg X-Face: 1*GzPq3qC*-k]Mo9Zy,N+dV)v(nK&1}T@#^>/w.2-V0j9H{-;bW\mWo{:wOb5=.)/r>VmWT|vWZ\M"N/l1fV;U0J3G]<:RzDpwT{=p:fzhOl/%ub6ma2xY;k\Zt6]&`I2[zCYE#61U3ip_Ac<}WUQ}b[z%h^-@?1c]G=(wS66N+yzq Reply-To: pascal@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: bait.media.mit.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29301 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27087 I just got myself a thinkpad 560 active matrix display. I tried the display driver from nextanswers but it does not seem to work: It detects the display adaptor (says chipversion 66) and then it gives an error "Unsupported PCI hardware" and proceeds to load the default VGA driver. Any one else have this problem? pasc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!usenet From: lacsap@bait.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 1460A pcmcia adapter and sony prd-650 cdrom drive Date: 12 Jun 1997 16:06:51 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5np6qr$rsm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: pascal@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: bait.media.mit.edu I tried using this combination to load nextstep 3.3 and got tons of errors relating to invalid status )128) and many read failures. Enough to make sure the load did not work (finally I resorted to using an older adapter slimscsi and dec cdrom...) anyone have experiences wiht the above combo? pasc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!data.ramona.vix.com!nnrp1.crl.com!not-for-mail From: Subir Grewal Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer toner cartidge? Date: 13 Jun 1997 19:17:42 GMT Organization: Trill host selection council Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5ns6cm$lvi$1@nnrp1.crl.com> References: <5nkome$6ca$1@nnrp1.crl.com> <5nnjlu$qu3$1@maryj.bitstream.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl7.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970516; sun4m SunOS 4.1.3_U1] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29303 comp.sys.next.misc:26129 Thanks to everybody, I bought an HP95A and it works fine. -- hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: weird lines on 17" fimi monitor Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 15:18:29 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Jun-97 weird lines on 17" fimi mon.. by Jonathan B. Leffert@cs.u > I have a 17" FIMI monitor connected to my color slab and I've noticed that > there are these strange almost magnetic horizontal lines across the screen. > They seem to become less visable when the brightness is reduced. Has > anyone seen this before? Is there anything I can do about it? What you're seeing most likely are the thin wires used to hold the aperture grill of a Trinitron picture tube in place, and you are probably used to using monitors which use a shadow mask tube. Trinitron tubes are more expensive, and they tend to be brighter and sharper than a shadow mask design, but some people find the horizontal lines to be distracting. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!papergirl.highway1.com!news From: James Sentman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compaq Hardware Compatibility - Deskpro 6000 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 17:10:07 -0500 Organization: MediaOne Lines: 21 Message-ID: <33A1C53C.47D4@m1.mediaone.com> Reply-To: sentman@m1.mediaone.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 169.152.160.78 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Greetings, I am doing WebObjects development for MediaOne and am looking to upgrade the box I'm running NeXT on. MicroAge has recommended a Compaq Deskpro 6000, however in speaking to NeXT tech support, they can only tell me that theoretically it should work. I've had lots of problems just using windows on Compaq due to their funky custom hardware and drivers. Is anyone using NeXT 4.1, or any other for that matter, successfully on Campaq hardware? Or can anyone recommend a different, off the shelf, system that works well. Thank you, James Sentman __________________________________________________________________ James Sentman sentman@m1.mediaone.com Internet Systems Specialist Media One http://www.mediaone.com/ http://shoga.wwa.com/~sentman/ __________________________________________________________________ To most people solutions mean finding the answers. But to chemists solutions are things that are still all mixed up. -Anonymous #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.niehs.nih.gov!not-for-mail From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: why does DECchip 21140 think it's a 21040? Date: 13 Jun 1997 21:12:07 GMT Organization: NIEHS Lines: 56 Message-ID: <5nsd37$3li$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Reply-To: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: catatac.niehs.nih.gov Keywords: Cogent EM 110, DECchip 21140, DECchip 21040 Hi, I have an interesting situation. Here is the story. The fellow in the next office just bought a new Dell OptiPlex GXpro 6200 (a pentium pro 200). It came with a built-in 3Com PCI 10/100 ethernet adapter (3C90x ?). He wanted to see if OPENSTEP 4.1 ran well on this system, so I told him I'd help him check it out. I had heard that this 3Com ethernet adapter was not (yet) supported under OPENSTEP, so we disabled it in the BIOS. We loaded OPENSTEP and all went well. I had an extra Cogent EM 110 (PCI 10/100) ethernet card, which uses the DECchip 21140. This card works fine on our DEC pentium pros, so I thought we could try it in the Dell. For some reason the Dell thinks it's a DECchip 21040 rather than a 21140. If we use Configure.app to load either the Cogent EM 110 driver or the DECchip 21140 driver, we get the following message during the reboot: DECchip 21140: unsupported PCI hardware However, if we use the DECchip 21040 driver, everything seems to work. We're not really complaining, since the ethernet card works this way, but we do find it curious. Has anyone else seen this? Are we doing something wrong? We installed the card and then used Configure.app to load the driver. Do we need to reverse this (use Configure.app to load the driver and then install the card)? Also, does the card have to go in a particular PCI slot? The messages during boot look like: DECchip 21040: PCI Dev: 11 Func: 0 Bus: 1 Registering en0 DECchip 21040 based adapter at port 0xec80 irq 10 interface TP One last question. Configure.app does not mention an IRQ being used, but booting gives this message about IRQ 10. This seems strange. Any comments would be welcome. Please respond via email, as news is not too reliable at our site. Thanks in advance. Gregg =========================== Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Rendition video driver Date: 13 Jun 1997 23:49:53 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5nsmb1$ro6@winter.erols.com> References: <865729476.29230@dejanews.com> <33A0F332.38AD501D@apple.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-tnt-fe-2s101.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Received-On: 13 Jun 1997 23:49:53 GMT X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: cue@apple.com In <33A0F332.38AD501D@apple.com> cue@apple.com wrote: > I have a PC with an Intergraph Intense 3d Rendition board. This has the > Verite processor. Does anyone know of a driver for NextStep 4.2 that > will work with it? > > Eddy Cue > cue@apple.com > > Check with Omni Development www.omnigroup.com They had a driver for the rendition3d Its not on their web page, but e-mail the people over there and they will help you. Scott Turner FirstSight Inc. http://www.1stsight.com vision@1stsight.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Zip Drive -Parallel Port Version Date: 13 Jun 1997 23:46:47 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5nsm57$ro6@winter.erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-tnt-fe-2s101.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Received-On: 13 Jun 1997 23:46:47 GMT X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Is there a way to connect the zip drive to a parallel port on NextStep For Intel version 3.3? Scott Turner FirstSightInc. http://www.1stsight.com vision@1stsight.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!acs2.byu.edu!news.et.byu.edu!not-for-mail From: "Jesse D. Hurlbut" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Salvage a Disk Crash Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 05:33:18 -0600 Organization: StarPage LCC Lines: 23 Message-ID: <33A12FFD.54739A86@starpage.com> Reply-To: webmaster@starpage.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.187.41.129 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I think I've got a pretty classic hard drive crash, but I want to make sure before I trash this thing along with the data I've got on it. Here's what I get when I try to boot up my NeXTStation: ==== checking disks Target 1: MEDIA ERROR: block 10a3c0H retry 1, 2, ...9 Sd0 (1,0): sense key: 0x3 additional sense code 0x11 SCSI Block in error=1090579; Partition a F.S. Sector 545129 /dev/rsd0a: CANNOT READ: BLK 545128 /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Reboot failed...help! Faking root mount entries ==== Is there any hope of getting it to boot up long enough for me to salvage some of my data, or is this drive toast? (How do I partition a F.S. Sector or run fsck manually, for example?) thanks, jesse_hurlbut@byu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!supernews.com!Supernews!not-for-mail From: Andrew Minkin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.2 on DOS Card Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 17:30:06 +0000 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33A1839E.2C39@rocketmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.168.90.133 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) I have a Performa 6100 with a DOS Card that runs DOS (Win 95, etc.) just fine but I want to use the Mach kernal for OPenStep 4.2. when I try to install it, I cannot find any compatible SCSI drivers for the CDROM or the hard drive. Any suggestions? Andrew Minkin Director of Technology, Archaeus Software #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rutgers!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: cmsg cancel <5ns28e$88n$2@bashir.peak.org> Control: cancel <5ns28e$88n$2@bashir.peak.org> Date: 13 Jun 1997 18:11:33 GMT Organization: Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5ns2gl$88n$3@bashir.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 on DOS Card Date: 14 Jun 1997 02:03:54 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <19970614020300.WAA24489@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <33A1839E.2C39@rocketmail.com> You'll have to wait for, and then purchase Connectix virtual PC. The DOS cards are so named for a reason--rather than fully emulating a PC, they simply convince DOS to run, and everything runs on that--NeXTStep won't run on DOS... There were a lot of posts about this in comp.sys.next.advocacy recently. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Salvage a Disk Crash Date: 14 Jun 1997 02:10:34 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5nsuiq$37h$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <33A12FFD.54739A86@starpage.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: jesse_hurlbut@byu.edu In <33A12FFD.54739A86@starpage.com> "Jesse D. Hurlbut" wrote: > I think I've got a pretty classic hard drive crash, but I want to make > sure before I trash this thing along with the data I've got on it. > Here's what I get when I try to boot up my NeXTStation: > > ==== > checking disks > Target 1: MEDIA ERROR: block 10a3c0H retry 1, 2, ...9 > Sd0 (1,0): sense key: 0x3 additional sense code 0x11 > SCSI Block in error=1090579; Partition a F.S. Sector 545129 > /dev/rsd0a: CANNOT READ: BLK 545128 > /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. > > Reboot failed...help! > Faking root mount entries > ==== > Is there any hope of getting it to boot up long enough for me to salvage > some of my data, or is this drive toast? (How do I partition a F.S. > Sector or run fsck manually, for example?) > > thanks, > > jesse_hurlbut@byu.edu > > First thing is that Media errors are not a good thing. (i.e. blowing the disk away and remaking the fs may result in future media errors!). If you simply want to try to recover data you can get a second disk and use that to boot from. Try to mount the damaged disk read only and save what you need. Keep an eye out for console errors and make sure to do diffs/cmp's on the copied files. You should also check out 'man reasb'. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What is the proper Soundbox text sound? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 03:16:05 GMT References: <33A02C2E.6FA4@dcg.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article <33A02C2E.6FA4@dcg.com>, John Goggan wrote: >Hello there. I recently acquire my first color Station -- and, >therefore, my first SoundBox. I've been having some sound problems and >my question is this: what does the "normal" startup test sound sound >like through a SoundBox? It sounds the same through my sound box as it used to through my monitor. Maybe a little more bass from the sound box. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!supernews.com!Supernews!not-for-mail From: zlewanto@stan.donet.com (Zdzislaw H. "Stan" Lewantowicz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any Success w ESS1868 Sound on NS3.3? Date: 14 Jun 1997 01:43:56 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5nst0s$i70$1@usenet88.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: stan.donet.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:4369 comp.sys.next.hardware:29314 Has anyone had success with ESS1868 PnP soundcard on NS3.3 Intel? Am running an Award Bios PnP dual boot (W95 and NS3.3) on a 166MH Pentium. The ESS1868 card works fine on W95 - the Bios reconizes it as during boot. During NS3.3 boot I observe the console messages: Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: PnP: Plug and Play support enabled Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: PnP: Plug and Play BIOS present Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: PnP: read port 0x20b, max csn 1 Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: PnP: csn 1: ESS1868 s/n 0x00000001 Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: ISA/EISA bus support enabled ... Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: ES1x88AudioDriver: Hardware not detected at port 0x220. I have checked and rechecked all of the settings, etc. I have tried the NS4.1 version of the driver. I have upgraded the EISA driver to ver 3.37. etc - and still no sound. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Stan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Stephen V. Roller" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Monitor giving out -- stretching & shrinking vertical Date: 14 Jun 1997 03:47:01 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: <01bc7874$61eb95e0$1400000a@tsunami> References: <5nhhek$ojl@alonzo.cs.sfu.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.132.250 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Melissa O'Neill wrote in article <5nhhek$ojl@alonzo.cs.sfu.ca>... . . > If this is some common problem, with an easy fix, I'd be very interested. > Also, if I can send my monitor away somewhere to be fixed, I'd love to > hear where that would be. Finally, if I have to get a `new' monitor, I'd > be interested in knowing where the best place is, and how much I'd have > to pay. Hi Melissa, My N4000B went dim after 40,000+ hours of use! I contacted DecisionOne (SanFransisco) 510 / 266-3000 They will exchange your monitor with another just like your model, but with a new picture tube. Non-Profit-Org Credit Card price is $389. I hope they can help you out. Steve Roller Puget Sound NeXT Users Group http://www.seattle.net/~nextpsug #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!hanrek From: hanrek@infoworkshop.com (Mark Hanrek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can OPENSTEP be installed on PMac w/100MHz Pentium Card? Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 21:21:22 -0700 Organization: The Information Workshop Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: optional.cts.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.6 Cache-Post-Path: optional.cts.com!unknown@at.cts.com I have Apple's Prelude to Rhapsody package which includes OPENSTEP 4.2 for Mach on Intel. I wanted to try and find out if it was possible to install the system on my PowerMac 7200/90 with 12" Compatibility Card (100Mhz Pentium). The first thing that hit me in the installation is calling out the id of the SCSI drive, and I thought I'd ask since this is a hybrid machine. I do have multiple SCSI drives installed and could dedicate one to OPENSTEP, but I get the feeling that there are other problems in store because of the shared hardware environment. Any information, insight, or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Mark Hanrek The Information Workshop ------------------------------------------------------------------ The Information Workshop #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.inc.net!not-for-mail From: rupert@noir.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: It always pays to panic... Date: 14 Jun 1997 05:40:03 GMT Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. http://www.inc.net usenet@news.inc.net Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5ntarj$l4c$2@news.inc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: donner.noir.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Woe is me. I've got a Color Turbo that is suddenly incapable of making it through an hour of operation without panicking. Uggh. I am infinitely perplexed as to what I did to percipitate this, but here's the rundown: - Original 250Mb drive died. No fsck, lowlevel format, etc would work. Kaput. Fine. - Installed spare Fujitsu 540 just fine. - Took time to clean & vacuum the inside of the pizza box. - Installed 3.3 from scratch. - Everything seemed ducky, even the patch install & "renetworking" of the machine. - Very intermittently, but at least once an hour the machine panics, even when idle. I get a big NMI window full of dex-hex-mess dump, and then usually the following message: "MMU invalid descriptor during table walk" Any idea what might be causing this behaviour? The machine worked flawlessly before the first HDD died... I am stumped as to where to even begin on this snipe hunt. I am not panicking yet... Hans Rupert -- Hans Rupert Direktor noir #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rutgers!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Salvage a Disk Crash Date: 14 Jun 1997 02:45:37 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5nt0ki$qp8$1@bashir.peak.org> References: <33A12FFD.54739A86@starpage.com> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: webmaster@starpage.com In <33A12FFD.54739A86@starpage.com> "Jesse D. Hurlbut" wrote: > Is there any hope of getting it to boot up long enough for me to salvage > some of my data, or is this drive toast? (How do I partition a F.S. > Sector or run fsck manually, for example?) fsck -n /dev/rsd0a will answer no to all the questions. I'd probably try to boot off the CD or hook this HD to another working HD, try something like dd if=/dev/rsd1a of=/dev/null (assuming the drive gets mounted at /dev/rsd1a) and see if there is a block you can reassign using the 'reasb' command) You might be able to figure that block from the fsck information you already have... I don't know that much about it.... Be careful.... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g' #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Cube memory setup Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:31:56 GMT References: <5nqg9g$si1@umbc9.umbc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article <5nqg9g$si1@umbc9.umbc.edu>, hurley bryan wrote: > >So the board has 16 or so 30pin simm slots, what is that 72pin simm slot >for? > DSP memory expansion. You'll likely never find one of the boards that goes there. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 3.3 or 4.x? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 21:14:48 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 25 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29320 comp.sys.next.misc:26134 comp.sys.next.software:29960 comp.sys.next.programmer:24926 In article , John Kestner wrote: > >But I'm wondering: What version of NS should I get? What are the >differences between 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, (which I guess is the minimum I >should get) and 4.x? 3.2 is the bare minimum you should get, with 3.3 perferable. 4.x (4.2 preferably) should be OK on a Turbo machine as long as you put 64MB or more RAM in it. >Rhapsody is supposed to be a superset of NS, so I can develop now on black >hardware and recompiling will be all that's necessary, right? Will stuff I >develop in 3.3 carry over, or would I have to have 4.x? > Well, it's hard to say exactly what will be required in addition to a recompile. But, at a minimum, your code must be OPENSTEP-based, not NeXTSTEP-based. In that case 4.x is the only way to go. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!194.25.2.138!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!news.btx.dtag.de!not-for-mail From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: An audio question... Date: 11 Jun 1997 22:40:46 GMT Organization: Gehle Software Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5nn9he$64a$1@news01.btx.dtag.de> References: <19970611060200.CAA00690@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0295399126-0001@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01DT [de] (Win95; I; 16bit) To: Meson1 Meson1 wrote: > > I'm wondering if anyone knows how I might cram a S/PDIF (coaxial or > optical) signal into the DSP port on a NeXT . > > Anyone? > > Thanks, > > Michael See the homepage of RCN, Germany: http://www.rcn.de Carste #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!univ-lyon1.fr!unice.fr!news.ceram.fr!cnusc.fr!ciril.fr!univ-lille1.fr!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!IRIS.global-one.nl!cadmium.aware.nl!not-for-mail From: Tony Scott Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Distributors Wanted NOW!! Date: 14 Jun 1997 15:06:58 GMT Organization: World Wide Pants Promotion Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5nuc2i$84p$7659@cadmium.aware.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: breda-45.svpop.tip.nl Hi, This is a Solicitation Email, we are looking for new TUFF'97 DISTRIBUTORS. TUFF'97 is a promotional concept for a prospect follow-up system called "Simple Track". Software designed for Windows 95, 3.11 and NT machines. (Macintosh users read the NOTE below(*)) Concept: The TUFF'97 software includes a copy of Simple Track, so you can use this for your own personal administration (free). However, the TUFF'97 software is designed to give you BIG TIME credits for just taking the efforts to PROMOTE it. How do I get those credits?. Easy, just distribute/promote it. How? (Give away the software for free, put it on your website/homepage and let everyone download it. Give it to your friends, attach it by email etc). 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Best Regards, Tony Scott Worldwide Pants Promotions 24H Support/Download requests, mailto:FiReStArTeR@frodo.com voice:(+01)779 698 4655 Fax :(+01)779 698 4555 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!lrs-news!osn.de!news.technet.net!news2.planetc.com!news.planetc.com!news.isdn.net!isdnlin.mtsu.edu!hubcap.clemson.edu!gatech!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5nbtes$2q5@inout.beachnet.com> Date: 7 Jun 1997 20:31:07 GMT Control: cancel <5nbtes$2q5@inout.beachnet.com> Message-ID: Sender: sales@gclounge.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT printer feed problem References: <339e4a13.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <339f5dac.1353228@news.mindspring.com> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <33a0dfb0.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 13 Jun 97 05:50:40 GMT Lines: 91 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article <339f5dac.1353228@news.mindspring.com>, Heath Tucker wrote: >hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) wrote: > >>The usual big problems are a stripped (plastic) gear wheel in the mechanism >>that spits the paper out after printing (the sheet doesn't come all the way >>out) and a perished rubber input roller (the machine won't feed paper in). >> > >>The output problem requires replacing the little gear wheel, the input >>problem requires reversing the rubber sleeve on the input roller. Both >>involves partially dismantling the paper transport mechanism, which I am >>pretty sure are covered in the site above. >> >>Of course, you may have some other problem. Cheaper to buy a working >>used printer than to have Bell Atlantic fix it I think. >> >>Good luck. >> >>david > >>-- >>David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more >>Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. >>hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) >>http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! > > >This message falls at a good time for me. I just took ownership of a >black next 400dpi printer and it has a problem feeding paper into >itself. > >I was wondering if anyone could tell me what they think of these >symptoms and behaviors: > >The printer tries to print. It pulls the paper very quickly about 1 >inch in, and then pauses. It is at this point that it usually jams. >The paper simply doesn't move anymore even though I can hear the gears >inside the printer working away. > >The interesting part is this. If I pop the cover for a second and >close it, it makes a clunking noise, warms up for a second and then >pulls the paper the rest of the way in and prints perfectly, except >that the text is not centered vertically, it appears nearly at the >bottom of the page with a huge top margin. > >As a side note, I can make it pull in the paper every time if I use >the slider in the the paper tray to force the stack of paper to >actually stick up over the end and out of the tray. This literally >forces the stack into the printer's mouth when I shove the tray back >in. The additional push that forcing the paper in gives at feed time >allows the printer to pull the entire page in, but it is still >horribly off skew towards the bottom. > >My question (you knew I had to have one in here somewhere): > >I do not have an original NeXT paper tray. I am using what I think is >a HP tray (it is black, but I was told that it isnt a NeXT tray by the >guy who I got it from, there is no writing on the tray). > >Should I try to get an original NeXT tray and see if this feeds the >paper correctly to the machine and all is well (for about $20)? Could >an improper tray cause this problem? I have enver seen a NeXT printer >tray before so I don't know if the trays are nonstandard. > >Or, should I try to disassemble the printer and flip the intake roller >as described above? Does anyone have any experience doing this and if >so, are my symptoms like yours were before the fix? The rubber on the >roller seems to be in decent shape and it will feed somewhat. > >Well, I hope someone can give me some details on what a working NeXT >laser does if nothing else :) Is the rapid feeding and then a pause >normal? Is a clunk after opening the cover normal etc.? If you have >read this far, thanks in advance, > >Heath Tucker Sounds absolutely standard perished (hardened surface) input roller. You describe the symptoms and experiments I went through. Flipping the rubber sleeve should (IMHO) fix it. The tricky part is having the skill to disassemble the bits and put them together again. It is not that hard, but can be handled badly and lead to damage. I've done two successfully. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5nuc2i$84p$7659@cadmium.aware.nl> Date: 14 Jun 1997 17:40:06 GMT Control: cancel <5nuc2i$84p$7659@cadmium.aware.nl> Message-ID: Sender: Tony Scott X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970614.03. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970614.03.html for complete report. Original Subject: Distributors Wanted NOW!! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help! Monitor Sync Problems! Ack! Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5nnrcu$nr6$1@brokaw.wa.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:19:16 GMT Lines: 19 In article <5nnrcu$nr6$1@brokaw.wa.com> ihate@spammers.com (bf) writes: > I have a Colorstation ADB running NS 3.3/3.2 on it with a 17" megapixel > std. next color monitor. For some reason, upon boot up the colorstation > cant seem to sync with the monitor and ends up getting a jumbled image. > It usually takes 5-6 power-ons before it can finally sync up. Whats > going on here?? > If it ain't just a broken cable there are two possibilities. Either the synch range or signal separation in the monitor is going bad or the frame generator in the slab is dying. You could try to isolate the problem by exchanging the monitor. But this is a serious TV technician job to find out which if it ain't just something obvious (like the cable). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!194.88.66.106!backpost.satin.net!news.IT.net!kit2.swapnet.it!user From: srampazzo@windnet.it (Stefano Rampazzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OPENSTEP on Windows95 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 01:20:58 +0200 Organization: ITnet Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kit2.swapnet.it Hello, I've installed OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody) on my Windows95 system (Pentium166 - 32MB RAM). Precisely I've installed the standard Deployment package ( directory OEDeploy ). When I try to run the demos I get an error in PBS.exe : Unhandled exception in pbs.exe (NEXTPDO.DLL) : 0xC0000005: Access Violation. What I'm missing ? Thank you very much. Best Regards. Stefano email: srampazzo@windnet.it #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 20:03:16 -0600 From: Rene Berber Subject: Re: Jaz trouble with NS3.3 on Intel Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <866336029.8593@dejanews.com> Reply-To: rberber@spin.com.mx Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Jun 15 00:53:50 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 200.12.165.51 (verbum03.spin.com.mx) X-Http-User-Agent: OmniWeb/2.5-beta-6 OWF/1.0 X-Authenticated-Sender: Rene Berber Lines: 57 Trey McClendon wrote: > > I'm having a bit of trouble with a Jaz drive. I built a filesystem > on it a few days ago, but it 'crashed' today. The system cannot > successfully install a new file system on it because it gets to > many SCSI retry errors. It will die at various places. I guess it > somehow made it the first time without reaching some error limit. > > I've tried the disktab from NeXT and the disktab off the net > (skylee.com, et.al.). I've done the Format command from disk. > The disktab entry from NeXT works for me. > Does anyone know what I could try next? > Need more info: Did you format the Jaz disk with: disk -F /dev/rsd2h (assuming it is the third SCSI device)? Did you then make the new file system with: disk -i -lJaz -t IOMEGAJAZ-1G /dev/rsd2h (or something similar.) > The jaz is connected to a Pentium system (ASUS SCSI with Symbios > Logic driver v3.33). There other devices, including a Zip drive > that works fine, on the SCSI chain. I've removed everything but the > Jaz and still have trouble. > > Here is the SCSI rundown: > > ID=0, Boot NeXT disk > ID=2, Windows hard disk > ID=3, jaz drive. > The Jaz drive is the SCSI terminator on the chain? Either has the switch in auto-terminate or terminate position. > The drive works fine in windows. I took the problem disk and did > the 21 minute format and no errors were found with the disk. > So the disk doesn't seem to be faulty. > Thanks in advance for any tips. It is important that I get this > drive to work if possible. > --- Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rkurhajetz@aol.com (Rkurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: soundblaster 16 and / or 32 question - for NS 3.3 ?? Date: 15 Jun 1997 01:46:29 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19970615014600.VAA06727@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Howdy I've got a question about Soundblasters in general and the SB16 and SB32 versions in particular for use with Nextstep - we have a Triton-based PCI 166mhz system w/ NS 3.3 and have had a variety of problems related to getting a SB 16 PnP to configure correctly - basically system just does not appear to ID it at all -- ( any suggestions or insights most welcome ) and also -- is it possible to drive a SB32 under NS 3.3 ? BTW, with respect to SBlasters, are there any great things possible under Openstep 4.2 that might help us resolve this sound blaster configuration issue? thanks in advance for any and all assistance - Bob Kurhajetz #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!news.mr.net!bitstream.net!not-for-mail From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Speakers for black hardware Date: 15 Jun 1997 02:54:23 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5nvlgv$ant$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Reply-To: cejensen@bitstream.net NNTP-Posting-Host: port107.bitstream.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-30007-01 Does anyone have a recommendations in regard to speakers for use with black hardware? I would like to attach a pair to my cube for use playback of music CDs and/or snd/wav/midi playback. Any recommendations? Favorites? Types or brands to avoid? Thanks in advance to any who reply... --Chris -- ******************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, NeXTMail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speakers for black hardware Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 23:29:26 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <5nvlgv$ant$1@maryj.bitstream.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu To: Christian Jensen In-Reply-To: <5nvlgv$ant$1@maryj.bitstream.net> On 15 Jun 1997, Christian Jensen wrote: > Does anyone have a recommendations in regard to speakers for use with > black hardware? I would like to attach a pair to my cube for use > playback of music CDs and/or snd/wav/midi playback. > > Any recommendations? Favorites? Types or brands to avoid? Currently I'm using Cambridge Soundworks' Model 11 system with my NeXT. (This is the really keen transportable system that dates back to 1989-ish. It's since been supplanted by the Model 12 which, as far as I can tell, is functionally identical, with only cosmetic changes to the amp unit.) In any case, I've been deleriously happy with this unit - it has served me well. It is, however a bit pricy (about $800). A quick glance at their web site (http://www.hifi.com) shows that they've got some lower-end products specifically aimed at computer users. I can't speak for the quality of these units, only that I love my Model 11. As far as stuff to avoid... well, basically anything under $150 sounds like cheap trash in my experience. If your budget is under $150, you'd probably be better off with a good pair of headphones. As for brands - avoid Labtec and Koss like the plague. Altec Lansing has some reasonable powered speakers in their mid-to-upper range, but their cheap stuff is pretty terrible. Here are a few URLs that may be helpful: Computer Shopper PC Speaker roundup: http://www8.zdnet.com/products/content/cshp/1701/cshp0166.html PC Magazine review of Cambridge Soundwork's MicroWorks system: http://www8.zdnet.com/products/content/pcmg/1601/pcmg0049.html Computer Life's How To Buy PC Speakers: http://www5.zdnet.com/products/content/clife/newrev/0506cl1.html Older PC Magazine speaker roundup: http://www5.zdnet.com/products/content/pcmg/1501/pcmg0171.html Hope this helps, -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next Dimension motherboard questions Date: 14 Jun 1997 20:36:38 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5nvo06$94u@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Are all ND boards either 25 or 33 MHz? (Which?) Do all ND boards take 4Meg 30 Pin SIMMS? Do all ND motherboards support color? Can one put 2 ND motherboards in a cube and get all the functionality of a dual headed system? Is there a way to view video at resolutions greater than 480 by 640? When you purchase a ND board, do you have to seek out special software to set up the dual headed feature? When ND and NBIC record video is audio captured as well? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!shelob.afs.com!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <14012865742421@digifix.com> Date: 15 Jun 1997 03:57:19 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 344 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <3108866347221@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:71959 comp.sys.next.announce:4248 comp.sys.next.hardware:29331 comp.sys.next.software:29970 comp.sys.next.misc:26137 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27102 comp.sys.next.bugs:4372 comp.sys.next.programmer:24944 Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!syix.com!bad-news.harborcom.net!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: weird lines on 17" fimi monitor Date: 13 Jun 1997 20:48:02 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5nsbm2$d98$1@bashir.peak.org> References: Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) In Charles William Swiger wrote: > What you're seeing most likely are the thin wires used to hold the > aperture grill of a Trinitron picture tube in place, and you are > probably used to using monitors which use a shadow mask tube. > > Trinitron tubes are more expensive, and they tend to be brighter and > sharper than a shadow mask design, but some people find the horizontal > lines to be distracting. I have these with my new Mitsubishi DiamondPro. I thought about returning it when I first saw the lines. However it was a quality monitor and I thought I'd give it a try. Two things helped: I changed the background color of my Workspace to some sort of blue-ish or purple-ish thing (I think it may be the default actually.... I can't find the dwrite). I also changed the color of my Stuart.app windows. I really don't notice them all that much, and I'm usually quite bad about being distracted by such things.... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g' #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: "Carl A. Carlson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3.3 or 4.x? Date: 14 Jun 1997 13:40:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 7 Message-ID: <33A2A094.56A9@primenet.com> References: X-Posted-By: @198.68.42.81 (ccarlson) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 3.2 is the bare minimum you should get, with 3.3 perferable. 4.x >>(4.2 preferably) should be OK on a Turbo machine as long as you put >64MB or more RAM in it. This seems too conservative. I'm running 4.1 on a 25 mhz station with 16 megs of Ram. It runs fine. Carl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.73.178.32!chippy.visi.com!visi.com!news-out.visi.com!jacobs.Geeks.ORG!not-for-mail From: David Young Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next Dimension motherboard questions Date: 15 Jun 1997 07:18:37 GMT Organization: Geeks Organizations Lines: 45 Message-ID: <5o050d$3qr$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5nvo06$94u@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jacobs.geeks.org NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jun 1997 02:18:37 CDT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970123] Emmett McLean wrote: > Are all ND boards either 25 or 33 MHz? (Which?) All NeXTdimension cards are 33MHz i860 graphics coprocessors. > Do all ND boards take 4Meg 30 Pin SIMMS? No, they take 72pin SIMMs in sizes ranging from 1 to 4MB. I understand that 8M SIMMs also work but were not officiially supported. > Do all ND motherboards support color? NeXTdimensions aren't motherboards, they are expansion boards which handle a color display. You still need a cube and its motherboard to drive the ND. > Can one put 2 ND motherboards in a cube and get > all the functionality of a dual headed system? You can put a ND and a cube motherboard in one box and have one color ND head and one greyscale standard head. You may repeat the process with up to three Dimensions. > Is there a way to view video at resolutions > greater than 480 by 640? Not that I know of. > When you purchase a ND board, do you have to > seek out special software to set up the dual > headed feature? No. Your Preferences panel should recognize the new screen and allow you to configure them appropriate. > When ND and NBIC record video is audio captured > as well? The ND doesn't record video, per se; it can capture about 6-10 fps, depending on the resolution. You can also record audio with the line input simultaneously. -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net :: :: PGP fingerprint :: 89F5 E75D 4749 3FF4 :: ED92 1B6D 9871 9B93 :: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!univ-lyon1.fr!pasteur.fr!oleane!not-for-mail From: Frederic SAVOIR Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: My original Openstep Device Drivers Disk Prerelease 4.2 is dead ! Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 11:20:05 +0200 Organization: Guest of OLEANE - PIPEX International Lines: 14 Message-ID: <33A3B3C5.FE84924F@dial.oleane.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn-169.vin.oleane.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29335 comp.sys.next.misc:26139 Hello, I received my Openstep for Mach (Intel) 4.2 prerelease 2 (Prelude to Rhapsody) but my second floppy disk is dead which is the Openstep device drivers disk prerelease 2.... Thus I can't install the software... If some got the same disk and could send it to me by Email (in raw format) or if someone knows where to get it.. please let me know because I would like to install it as soon as possible. Sincerely, Fred -- Email: Frederic SAVOIR #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infi.net!news.infi.net!not-for-mail From: jimdec@outernetix.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Yummy Spanish Women Date: 15 Jun 1997 08:58:32 GMT Organization: Earthlink Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5o0aro$go1$149@nw001.infi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm9-179.orf.infi.net Hey, just thought i'd share with everyone, I found a site with loads of nude CHEERLEADERs. The address is: http://www.mid-night.com --Jason-- (Sorry for the intrusion, everyone needs some short skirts in their life) P.S. They also a have spanish / latina women archive #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!194.121.224.3!ix.netcom.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!news.evcom.net!news.infi.net!news.internetMCI.com!news.mia.bellsouth.net!news.mindspring.com!news.total.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!nntp.earthlink.net!world1.bellatlantic.net!world6.bellatlantic.net!cyberspam!news From: jimdec@outernetix.net Organization: Earthlink Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5o0aro$go1$149@nw001.infi.net> Message-ID: Control: cancel <5o0aro$go1$149@nw001.infi.net> Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de References: <5o0aro$go1$149@nw001.infi.net> Lines: 5 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 11:04:11 +1 X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "www.mid-night.com" or "summary of auto-cancellations" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Yummy Spanish Women. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!xfer.kren.nm.kr!news.interpia.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (younghoon KIL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Matrox PowerDoc and NS 3.3 Date: 15 Jun 1997 12:20:25 GMT Organization: ppai News Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5o0mm9$nu3$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.220 X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.95 Hi, I'm interesting Matrox PowerDoc than Millennium. Has anyone had experience with Matrox PowerDoc graphics card on NS3.3 Intel and OS 4.x? Matrox PowerDoc graphics card: http://www.matrox.com/mgaweb/powerdoc.htm Any help would be appreciated. younghoon KIL >From South Korea. ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A board written in Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd.cv.hp.com!hp-cv.cv.hp.com!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Getting the monitor to power save Date: 15 Jun 1997 03:57:49 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5nvp7t$68v$2@bashir.peak.org> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) My monitor has power save features. I have enabled power save via root's Preferences.app I have dimmed my monitor to brightness = 0 How do I convince the monitor to go to power save? Thanks TjL ps -- I was disappointed that OS4.1 NSFIP only dimmed the monitor a little if I had been idle for my certain time. Using 'evs dim 300 .0' it will dim to black in 300 seconds (aka 5 minutes). evs can be found at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/evs.1.0.NIHS.bs.tar.gz -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g' #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: It always pays to panic... Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5ntarj$l4c$2@news.inc.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 16:13:41 GMT Lines: 37 In article <5ntarj$l4c$2@news.inc.net> rupert@noir.net writes: > Woe is me. > > I've got a Color Turbo that is suddenly incapable of making it > through an hour of operation without panicking. Uggh. I am > infinitely perplexed as to what I did to percipitate this, but > here's the rundown: > > - Original 250Mb drive died. No fsck, lowlevel format, etc would > work. Kaput. Fine. - Installed spare Fujitsu 540 just fine. - > Took time to clean & vacuum the inside of the pizza box. - Installed > 3.3 from scratch. - Everything seemed ducky, even the patch install > & "renetworking" of the machine. - Very intermittently, but at > least once an hour the machine panics, even when idle. > > I get a big NMI window full of dex-hex-mess dump, and then usually > the following message: > > "MMU invalid descriptor during table walk" > > Any idea what might be causing this behaviour? This is an almost 100% certain clue for a main memory defect. Just when some vital funtion hits it... > The machine worked flawlessly before the first HDD died... I am stumped > as to where to even begin on this snipe hunt. > > I am not panicking yet... > Good to hear ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!129.174.1.8!portal.gmu.edu!osf1.gmu.edu!rraman From: rraman@osf1.gmu.edu (RAVISHANKAR RAMANATHAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which Fax/Modem for NeXT Black Date: 15 Jun 1997 16:51:20 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5o16i8$lfn@portal.gmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: osf1.gmu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello all: I am planning to use my next full time and would like to get some info on which Fax Modem runs without problems under Black NeXT (running NS3.3) - I plan to do PPP and also fax documents from my machine. For the latter, is the built in Fax mechanism sufficient? Another question I have is how fast can the modems go. Them machine is a Turbo Slab. And finally, can I connect a ISDN modem to this machine - either through the serial port or a ISDN router. Thanks in advance for all the help! Ravi #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!usenet From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next Dimension motherboard questions Date: 15 Jun 1997 18:45:38 GMT Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5o1d8i$4nm@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> References: <5o050d$3qr$1@darla.visi.com> Reply-To: atl2@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: guava.phil.lehigh.edu > > Is there a way to view video at resolutions > > greater than 480 by 640? > > Not that I know of. > A very minor correction: the PAL boards support the slightly greater resolution of the European standard. Not sure that's helpful to the original poster, though. Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting the monitor to power save Date: 16 Jun 1997 02:24:16 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5o284g$f2@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5nvp7t$68v$2@bashir.peak.org> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: p09.cisco1.precipice.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: luomat@peak.org In <5nvp7t$68v$2@bashir.peak.org> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > My monitor has power save features. > I have enabled power save via root's Preferences.app > I have dimmed my monitor to brightness = 0 > How do I convince the monitor to go to power save? > > Thanks > > TjL > > ps -- I was disappointed that OS4.1 NSFIP only dimmed the monitor a little if > I had been idle for my certain time. Using 'evs dim 300 .0' it will dim to > black in 300 seconds (aka 5 minutes). evs can be found at: > > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/evs.1.0.NIHS.bs.tar.gz > anybody able to get a canon object.station to use it's monitor power saver feature to work under OPENSTEP? It worked swell under 3.2, but on 4.1 it goes to the ever delightful NeXT logo but never turns off the monitor. as much as I like the NeXT logo, sometimes I just want the monitor to save itself the effort of displaying it. (yes , I am aware of the monitor power switch) -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speakers for black hardware Date: 16 Jun 1997 02:56:17 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 75 Message-ID: <5o2a0h$f2@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5nvlgv$ant$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: p09.cisco1.precipice.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: isaac@pobox.com In Isaac wrote: > On 15 Jun 1997, Christian Jensen wrote: > > > Does anyone have a recommendations in regard to speakers for use with > > black hardware? I would like to attach a pair to my cube for use > > playback of music CDs and/or snd/wav/midi playback. > > > > Any recommendations? Favorites? Types or brands to avoid? > well, black ones, of course... and if you plan to place them near the monitor, shielded ones. > Currently I'm using Cambridge Soundworks' Model 11 system with my NeXT. > (This is the really keen transportable system that dates back to 1989-ish. > It's since been supplanted by the Model 12 which, as far as I can > tell, is functionally identical, with only cosmetic changes to the amp > unit.) In any case, I've been deleriously happy with this unit - it has > served me well. > > It is, however a bit pricy (about $800). A quick glance at their web site > (http://www.hifi.com) shows that they've got some lower-end products > specifically aimed at computer users. I can't speak for the quality of > these units, only that I love my Model 11. > are these the sub-woofer / satelites pair set? very cool, but yes pricey. they fit in a bag sorta like a Mac 512k shoulder bag? I did it a little different here. installing the NeXT into an already outfitted studio (small), I plugged it into a Mackie board / Hafler amp / Tannoy monitors combo (combined cost would be about $800 - 900, so similar). otherwise, I use a pair of (cheap) small "PC" speakers, AURA brand, model Aspect 10. they are over hyped, but have wooden cabinets and ported bass, and sound ok for "draft quality" 8-22k and low volume stuff. They cost me $30 so I can't complain. the imaging is ok and they serve their purpose (portable, self-powered and did I mention cheap!). they are, alas "PC" aka putty coloured... added bonus for this smaller approach, is I can take them with me if I need, to a hotel or for location monitoring with portable DAT or PMA-5 work. sometimes headphones for hours and hours at a time gives me a headache. decent headphones can be had for under $100. eg fostex series. > As far as stuff to avoid... well, basically anything under $150 sounds > like cheap trash in my experience. If your budget is under $150, you'd > probably be better off with a good pair of headphones. As for brands - > avoid Labtec and Koss like the plague. Altec Lansing has some reasonable > powered speakers in their mid-to-upper range, but their cheap stuff is > pretty terrible. > in general I agree, but for multi-media work where the output is @ 8 - 22k or draft work, eg editing, they work ok. always best to have more than one system for any serious work, so having a pair (like auratones, in the old days) is a good investment of 25-50 bux. > Hope this helps, > -Isaac > > -rick -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) AuralSurgery Digital Editing(tm) Filling Station Studio(tm) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Zip Drive -Parallel Port Version Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 18:48:35 GMT References: <5nsm57$ro6@winter.erols.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 13 In article <5nsm57$ro6@winter.erols.com>, Scott Turner wrote: >Is there a way to connect the zip drive to a parallel port on NextStep For >Intel version 3.3? > Not without writing a funky driver. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Next Dimension motherboard questions Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 18:50:56 GMT References: <5nvo06$94u@slip.net> <5o050d$3qr$1@darla.visi.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 36 In article <5o050d$3qr$1@darla.visi.com>, David Young wrote: >Emmett McLean wrote: > >> Do all ND boards take 4Meg 30 Pin SIMMS? > >No, they take 72pin SIMMs in sizes ranging from 1 to 4MB. I understand >that 8M SIMMs also work but were not officiially supported. > I have 4 8MB and 4 1MB SIMMs in my ND and they work fine. They must be 80ns or faster. >> Can one put 2 ND motherboards in a cube and get >> all the functionality of a dual headed system? > >You can put a ND and a cube motherboard in one box and have one color >ND head and one greyscale standard head. You may repeat the process with >up to three Dimensions. > ...and heat your room at the same time! ;) >> Is there a way to view video at resolutions >> greater than 480 by 640? > >Not that I know of. > No, there isn't. That's the fixed resolution of the video capture guts. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.94.112.34!news.aloha.net!news-w.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news.lava.net!usenet From: arti@address.in.signature (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: /dev/cufb: Permission denied Date: 16 Jun 1997 07:54:59 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5o2rgj$nfh@mochi.lava.net> References: <5nl06r$f6c@serv1.jump.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pikake013.lava.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) maria_eugenia@jump.net (Maria Eugenia Tapia) wrote: > I got a new internal HDD for my NeXTStation (040, 25Mhz non-turbo) > and re-loaded NS3.1. Everything went well, except that now I cannot > get kermit (or pppd) to 'grab' the tty device to dial out: > > /dev/cufb: Permission denied > Sorry, access to tty device denied > > As root things work OK. What would cause this, and how could I fix it. > > Thank you very much for any information. kermit and pppd must run setuid root in order to access the serial port devices which are read/write for their owner, root, only. Many people seem to change the serial device permissions to read/write for everyone which makes them less secure and isn't necessary if the kermit and pppd permissions are correct: [~]% ls -lg /usr/local/bin/kermit -rwsr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 352256 Jan 6 1993 /usr/local/bin/kermit* [~]% ls -lg /usr/etc/pppd ---s--s--x 1 root daemon 87748 Sep 12 1996 /usr/etc/pppd* -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti at lava dot net Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speakers for black hardware Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 05:13:25 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <5nvlgv$ant$1@maryj.bitstream.net> <5o2a0h$f2@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: <5o2a0h$f2@news1-alterdial.uu.net> On 16 Jun 1997, Rick Sanford wrote: > are these the sub-woofer / satelites pair set? very cool, but yes pricey. > they fit in a bag sorta like a Mac 512k shoulder bag? I did it a little > different here. installing the NeXT into an already outfitted studio (small), > I plugged it into a Mackie board / Hafler amp / Tannoy monitors combo > (combined cost would be about $800 - 900, so similar). The Model 11 is a satellite/sub set, yes, but with a twist. The sat units and the amp pack neatly *into* the woofer unit (aka the "Bass Case"), which looks like an ordinary hard-shell suitcase with a speaker grille in one side (Inside it's foam with cut-outs for the sats, amp, and cabling). The Model 12 (its successor) is the same. I remember reading a review of the system in MacUser circa 1989 and thinking "Wow, that's cool! Too bad I'll never be able to afford a set." Well, once the Model 11 got discontinued, I picked up a set at under half the cost ($350). Good things come to those who wait, I suppose. :) > in general I agree, but for multi-media work where the output is @ 8 - 22k or > draft work, eg editing, they work ok. always best to have more than one > system for any serious work, so having a pair (like auratones, in the old > days) is a good investment of 25-50 bux. Good point. For a long time I had been "making do" with a cheap, $20 set of Radio Shaft powered speakers. Now that I have something 100x nicer, the thought of going back to the "bad old days" makes me shudder. > added bonus for this smaller approach, is I can take them with me if I need, > to a hotel or for location monitoring with portable DAT or PMA-5 work. I've packed up the Model 11 on occasion, as it's fairly easy to do. (it can even take 12vdc directly and comes with an edison (car cigarette lighter) plug for such operation). It definately falls into the "transportable" category, though. Luggable, but not portable. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!aplcen.apl.jhu.edu!news.abs.net!news.scn.org!frodo.pgfn.bc.ca!news.mag-net.com!aurora.cs.athabascau.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!iedsp From: iedsp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: 16 Jun 1997 13:44:58 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.6] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76366 comp.sys.next.hardware:29348 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30611 Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Can't find any. Are they out yet? Please respond via e-mail since I can only POST TO USENET. THANKS! Dave (iedsp@agt.gmeds.com) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!spring.edu.tw!ctu-peer!news.nctu.edu.tw!netnews.NCTU.edu.tw!not-for-mail From: u8222015@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Spencer Yu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't boot my NXStation Date: 16 Jun 1997 14:43:58 GMT Organization: National Chiao Tung University, Hsinchu, Taiwan Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5o3jfe$shf$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: sun1000.cc.nctu.edu.tw X-Trace: 866472238 29231 u8222015@sun1000.cc.nctu.edu.tw 140.113.4.120 X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA+ANSI+COLOR PL6] sorry this is a stupid newbie question: I just got a NeXTStation from someone, and I found I can't boot it.. This machine came with an exnternal SCSI HD (1G, SCSI no =3 set by its previous owner)...no internal HD I think....I hooked the external HD to the SCSI port, powered on, and pressed the power key.... Everything's ok...ROM Monitor show up and tried to boot with the command "b sd(0,0,0)"...after about 30min it said "No SCSI disk" and I was confronted by a command prompt...what should I do now? please reply ASAP...it's a great torture watching this beautiful black box but can't not use it.... thanx a lot! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!rain.fr!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: stef@clickteam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: installation failed Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:06:19 +0200 Organization: Corel Click & Create Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33A5728A.AAE07C68@clickteam.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: val1-38.abo.wanadoo.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I can't install OPENSTEP for Mach 4.2 on my PC. After choosing the adaptec 2940 driver for both my cdrom and my disk, I get the Mach window resetting the computer and I get this failure : WARNING : clock lost 58 days... CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! Load of /etc/mach_init, errno 2, trying /etc/init Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2 ...and nothing more Any idea? May it comes from my motherboard with a cyrix P200+ ? Stéphane. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!iradj.is-bremen.de!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!linteuto.teuto.de!grape From: grape@matrix.teuto.de (Timo Hoepfner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: It always pays to panic... Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:24:11 +0200 Organization: PoP teuto.net Bielefeld Lines: 13 Message-ID: <1997061617241130716@[192.168.0.2]> References: <5ntarj$l4c$2@news.inc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: matrix.teuto.de X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2 > > Any idea what might be causing this behaviour? > > This is an almost 100% certain clue for a main memory defect. Just when > some vital funtion hits it... > Sometimes pulling out the SIMMs and reseating them (after cleaning the contacts) solves memory problems... Bye Timo --- Timo Hoepfner - grape@matrix.teuto.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sumter!icardena From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Matrox PowerDoc and NS 3.3 Date: 16 Jun 1997 20:04:54 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5o4696$h5$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5o0mm9$nu3$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Reply-To: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: sumter.cso.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (younghoon KIL) writes: >Hi, >I'm interesting Matrox PowerDoc than Millennium. >Has anyone had experience with Matrox PowerDoc graphics card on NS3.3 Intel and OS 4.x? Works great...I've been using the powerDoc edition of the millenium for a few months now. Just use the standard Millenium driver. I haven't had the oportunity to test it yet, but I believe that adding the 1800x1440 resolution to the Display.modes file (in /private/Drivers/i386/MatroxMGA2064WDisplayDriver.config) work. Any comments from people who've edited the Display.modes files with other adaptors? I'll find out for myself in about a month when I get my new monitor and WRAM :) Good luck, -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO Sites Technical Support "I am of the opinion that pizza and beer together are far superior to either in isolation." -James E. Quick on the Apple/NeXT merger #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ftp.uu.net!cyberspam!usenet From: jimdec@outernetix.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5o0aro$go1$149@nw001.infi.net> Control: cancel <5o0aro$go1$149@nw001.infi.net> Message-ID: Date: 16 Jun 1997 15:00:00 GMT X-No-Archive: Yes Lines: 1 Cancel Spam: Yummy Spanish Women #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!inet16.us.oracle.com!not-for-mail From: rhellman@us.oracle.com (Rick Hellman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need audio box for NeXT Station Color Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 22:58:40 GMT Organization: Oracle Corp. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33a5c4b1.364462724@newshost.us.oracle.com> Reply-To: rhellman@us.oracle.com NNTP-Posting-Host: btabatab-mac.us.oracle.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Anyone, I just inherited a NSC, but the audio box is nowhere to be found. Does anyone have one for sale, or know where to get one cheap? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Rick -- rhellman@us.oracle.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: 17 Jun 1997 02:38:52 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5o4tbs$gtf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: p12.cisco1.precipice.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: iedsp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76408 comp.sys.next.hardware:29355 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30626 In <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> iedsp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Can't find any. > Are they out yet? > > Please respond via e-mail since I can only POST TO USENET. > THANKS! > > Dave (iedsp@agt.gmeds.com) > > gameboy? -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!194.25.2.138!newsfeed00.btx.dtag.de!news.btx.dtag.de!not-for-mail From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD-R/CD-RW/UDF File system Date: 16 Jun 1997 01:26:59 GMT Organization: Gehle Software Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5o24p3$suc$1@news01.btx.dtag.de> References: <33A08D32.3AD5@ultranet.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0295399126-0001@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01DT [de] (Win95; I; 16bit) To: a1b01050@ultranet.ca JOHN HILLS wrote: > > I am looking at inexpensive solutions to disk archival storage. The HP > SureStor and Sony CSP-960S CD-R drives look attractive and perhaps the > Ricoh MP6200S CD-RW. Can CD-R/CD-RW/UDF File system be used under > NeXTstep/OpenStep/Rhapsody/whatever? > > John Hills > > jhills@ultranet.ca CDDesigner V1.2 will come in a few days. See http://www.ip-service.com/gehle Carsten #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 23:12:37 -0600 From: SJLee1@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Speakers for black hardware Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <866520070.19630@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <5nvlgv$ant$1@maryj.bitstream.net> <5o2a0h$f2@news1-alterdial.uu.net> X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Jun 17 04:01:11 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 207.94.249.152 (sjc-ca4-24.ix.netcom.com) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0C-NC320 (Win95; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: SJLee1@ix.netcom.com Lines: 28 In article , Isaac wrote: > The Model 11 is a satellite/sub set, yes, but with a twist. The sat units > and the amp pack neatly *into* the woofer unit (aka the "Bass Case"), > which looks like an ordinary hard-shell suitcase with a speaker grille in > one side (Inside it's foam with cut-outs for the sats, amp, and cabling). > The Model 12 (its successor) is the same. I remember reading a review of > the system in MacUser circa 1989 and thinking "Wow, that's cool! Too bad > I'll never be able to afford a set." Well, once the Model 11 got > discontinued, I picked up a set at under half the cost ($350). Good things > come to those who wait, I suppose. :) > The Model 12 has cosmetic differences, three inputs, and a headphone jack. The company's "SoundWorks" is the small $220 sat/sub system that can fit into a $50 carry bag and operate on AC or 12v. The much larger "MicroWorks" (which I am listening to as I type) is a sat/sub system that is definitely not portable; it is $350. Typical sale price on the Model 12 is $699. All three sound great and all three are available in black! Hilegaarde. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk!ironhorse.plsys.co.uk!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: 17 Jun 1997 03:44:24 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5o516o$dn0$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <5o4tbs$gtf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> X-Mail2News-User: Operator@seer.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: griffin.plsys.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk In-Reply-To: <5o4tbs$gtf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Lines: 31 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76424 comp.sys.next.hardware:29358 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30630 On 06/16/97, Rick Sanford wrote: >In <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> iedsp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: >> Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Can't find any. >> Are they out yet? >> >> Please respond via e-mail since I can only POST TO USENET. >> THANKS! >> >> Dave (iedsp@agt.gmeds.com) >> >> > >gameboy? > Nope Gameboy isn't color. Although they have some funky color cases now. The Sega 'gameboy' was color... but its long dead. I think they meant something a little more powerful and than video game though. -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.insinc.net!news.cadvision.com!usenet From: root@guzzibill.cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tape Drives and SafetyNet Date: 17 Jun 1997 01:28:12 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5o4p7c$33u4@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> Reply-To: scollarw@cadvision.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ts20ip202.cadvision.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) Cc: jsamson@istar.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29359 comp.sys.next.software:29998 In <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> Jean-Paul Samson wrote: > I've a pressing problem that needs to be figured out quickly. I have > a DAT drive and some files that need to be restored from tape. I'm > having difficulty getting SafetyNet 2.1 (a tape archiving utility) to > recognize when a tape is inserted into the drive. > > When the machine boots up, the SCSI controller does recognize the DAT > drive. Also, when I do an autodetect in SafetyNet, it finds the > drive. However, I can't figure out how to get SafetyNet to restore > files from tape; it doesn't seem to see when new tapes are inserted. > (The /etc/mtab file doesn't have an entry for the drive, so I guess > tapes are not automounted.) I'm using an Archive Python 28388 DAT > drive that is unofficially supported by NeXT and officially supported > by SafetyNet. > > Any ideas on how to get this thing to work? _____ This is basically a "rtfm" reply. The on-line help facility in SaftyNet is pretty darn good. If you have an archive of the tape's files already built, the restore should be a breeze...simply select the files you want restored in the Safety-Net browser window and click "restore" in the menu options. Safety-Net will then ask to have the proper tape mounted for the restore activity. If you do Not have an archive .... read up on how to create one, (this will ask for a tape mount too) and then the restore should be as before. Good Luck. -- Bill Scollard Calgary, Canada Scollard Holdings Ltd. "Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.94.112.34!news.aloha.net!news-w.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!lehi.kuentos.guam.net!news From: crobato@kuentos.guam.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Trident 9680 or Cirrus 5446 device drivers Date: 17 Jun 1997 07:12:37 GMT Organization: Kuentos Lines: 20 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5o5dd5$bvk@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> Reply-To: crobato@kuentos.guam.net NNTP-Posting-Host: bunita-126.kuentos.guam.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.9d - NLS Does OpenStep for Mach 4.2 support drivers for these two video cards? Please let me know. Email would be appreciated. Rgds, Chris "Devant le comportement irrationnel de sa machine, j'ai compris que se poser en dfenseur de Windows releve de la plus profonde bassesse. J'ai honte" --- Eric Bernatchez, "La Presse" newspaper, "Cyberpresse" column, March 22, 1997, Montreal, Canada. ***crobato@kuentos.guam.net*** #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Optical Driver Malfunction Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 02:20:16 GMT References: <33A54478.55FC@osu.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article <33A54478.55FC@osu.edu>, Stacy D. Coil wrote: >Does anyone know how to repair these drives? Mine won't spin up. I >cleaned it, but to know avail. Are there any schematics? > They're something of a black art, these drives. I got a dead one a while ago with the hopes of resurrecting it (it span up then made these strange clicking noises) but I never did get it to work. But I bought one last week new in the box for $140 Canadian, so I'm happy. I don't know of any schematics. I've heard rumours that the OD had a very high percentage of Crandall in it, so the schematics might be from space even if you could get them. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news.vub.ac.be!usenet From: Martin Laurent Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.2 on VirtualPC Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:39:57 +0200 Organization: Brussels Free Universities VUB/ULB Lines: 13 Message-ID: <33A6778D.2C69@interweb.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: sca-1.ulb.ac.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4u) I tried to install OpenStep 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody) on VirtualPC 1.0b6 but I didn't manage. It ask me which driver to use for the CD-ROM drive but I don't know which to choose. When I choose "Primary/Secondary(Dual) EIDE and ATAPI Device Controllers (v4.01)" (Yes I know, it's not SCSI but it doesn't cost anything to try) it recognize the CD-ROM and begin to boot on it but crash after displaying "Power Management Enabled". I tried some of the others drivers but the others don't recognize the CD at all. Can you help me ? Martin Laurent, Limauges Software #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.apfel.de!univ-lyon1.fr!unice.fr!cnusc.fr!ciril.fr!univ-angers.fr!jussieu.fr!news.edf.fr!not-for-mail From: Serge Smadja Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Drivers, more Drivers are needed !! Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:33:55 +0200 Organization: EDF - DER/IMA/ICI/ODI Lines: 25 Message-ID: <33A6A052.1A466173@der.edfgdf.fr> Reply-To: serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: cli52my.der.edf.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hello All, I have installed OpenStep 4.1 on a G6 200XL from Gateway 2000, however my graphic adapter is a STB Virge velocity 3D and my network adapter is a 3COM Etherlink III PCI (PCI is very important) and it seems that there aren't adequate drivers on the CD or on the Next Site. Any help would be appriciated. Does anybody knows if those drivers will be available anytime soon. Thanks. -- Serge Smadja EDF - Direction des Etudes et Recherches - FRANCE Ingénieur Chercheur - Département Ingénierie de la Communication en Informatique Groupe Outils de Dialogue pour l'Informatique Tél : +33 (0)1 47 65 31 31 fax : +33 (0)1 47 65 35 23 email : serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr t@byu.edu > First you will have to fix that bad block and you may expect some data loss! In order to fix the bad block you will: 1) boot single user (-s flag) 2) run the reasb command /usr/etc/reasb /dev/rsd0h 1090579 -r 3) IF reasb did successfully reassign the block do: /usr/etc/fsck -n /dev/rsd0a AND note all the printout (files names, inodes numbers) of the inconsistencies found to decide if the files are restorable from a good backup or NEXSTEP CD. 4) Post or mail me the the result of fsck for further analysis. Note: It's better to do this on a working system with the faulty disk attached in an external disk-case (don't forget to change the SCSI address of the faulty drive), thus /dev/rsd0h would become /dev/rsd1h for the commands described above! Hope that helps! -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.oru.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com!luomat From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: installation failed Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 10:16:57 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 44 Message-ID: Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com To: stef@clickteam.com In-Reply-To: <33A5728A.AAE07C68@clickteam.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 stef@clickteam.com wrote: > After choosing the adaptec 2940 driver for both my cdrom and my disk, I get > the Mach window resetting the computer and I get this failure : > > WARNING : clock lost 58 days... CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! > Load of /etc/mach_init, errno 2, trying /etc/init > Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2 > > ...and nothing more This is a very bad failure to find the necessary files to boot in /etc/. It may indicate a failed installation. (It may indicate something else as well). When the boot process starts, try entering this sd -i -s maybe that will have to be sd() -i ? Anyway, try to get it to boot with the -i flag.... and if you have IDE rather than SCSI I think it is 'hd' After the kernel starts, it will print: init program? If /usr/etc/init is still around, then you can say: init program? /usr/etc/init If that doesn't work you'll have to boot off the CD-ROM and look around and see what's missing... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing." - Dr Robert Cupper, Department of CS, Allegheny College #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!clunix.cl.msu.edu!blazek From: Rudolf B Blazek Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: ZIP Drive connector Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:09:31 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 24 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: clunix.cl.msu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29366 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18004 Hi all, I just bought a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXTstation. I found out that it has a connector that I have never seen before. It looks like 25 pin serial or printer connectors [it has both, male and female - for daisy-chaining]. So I just wanted to ask if that is some kind of standard SCSI connector. If so, would you know about a cheap source of a gender-bender or a cable? Or should I rather buy a cable from IOmega ($15)? Is it a reasonable price? If it is not a standard SCSI connector, I am going after IOmega, since the box says 'Mac and SCSI compatible'. Is it at least possible to connect such a cable to the Mac? I know that I might have a serious gap in education in the SCSI cables area, but the manual says that if you don't wanna use an IOmega proprietary SCSI board, you would need a gender bender. That raised my suspicion. Thanks for any hints. Good luck. Rudy blazek@stt.msu.edu #################################################################### Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:34:06 -0400 From: rifrain@avana.net (Jay Craft) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT ADB Keyboard on a macintosh Message-ID: Organization: Surreal Productions X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.42.61.246 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.42.61.246 Lines: 9 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!Radio-MSU.net!Gamma.RU!srcc!demos!newsfeed.sovam.com!sovam!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.avana.net!atl701.avana.net!user I heard that the NeXT adb keyboard works with the mac adb, and, wanting to have the coolest/oddest looking system around, I was planning to replace my broken keyboard with one. Has anyone tried this? I would be quite interested to know if the command and option keys worked (the NeXT keyboard has an ALT key which i would assume would be option?) and most importantly if the POWER key worked so i could turn my computer on if I so desired :) Thanks. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news.rccn.net!news.ist.utl.pt!news From: amaro@klein.ist.utl.pt (Amaro Rica da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soundblaster 16 and / or 32 question - for NS 3.3 ?? Date: 17 Jun 1997 11:40:43 GMT Organization: Instituto Superior Tecnico Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5o5t3r$rjl@ci.ist.utl.pt> References: <19970615014600.VAA06727@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: klein.ist.utl.pt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: rkurhajetz@aol.com In <19970615014600.VAA06727@ladder02.news.aol.com> Rkurhajetz wrote: > Howdy > > I've got a question about Soundblasters in general and the SB16 and SB32 > versions in particular for use with Nextstep - > we have a Triton-based PCI 166mhz system w/ NS 3.3 and have had a variety > of problems related to getting a SB 16 PnP to configure correctly - > basically system just does not appear to ID it at all -- ( any suggestions > or insights most welcome ) and also -- is it possible to drive a SB32 > under NS 3.3 ? BTW, with respect to SBlasters, are there any great things > possible under Openstep 4.2 that might help us resolve this sound blaster > configuration issue? thanks in advance for any and all assistance - > > Bob Kurhajetz > Bob, Installation of a SoundBlaster on a Pentium with NS3.3 requires that the EISA bus driver be able to recognise PnP devices. The CD-ROM EISA bus driver is superseded by a v3.35 EISAbus.pkg that you can download from www.peanuts.org, or find in NeXTanswers. Additionally, substitute the Serial port driver with v3.3 ISASerialPort ( NeXTanswer #1942). That should work. Good luck. Amaro Rica da Silva. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!ts5-14.homenet.ohio-state.edu!dimascio.6 From: dimascio.6@osu.edu (V.P. DiMascio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: LOOKING FOR NEXT BLACK HARDWARE Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:39:39 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts5-14.homenet.ohio-state.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #1] anyone know where to start? thanks vince #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!lynx.unm.edu!not-for-mail From: colinj@taos.cs.unm.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: ZIP Drive connector Date: 17 Jun 1997 14:31:49 -0600 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5o6s7l$51p$1@taos.cs.unm.edu> References: Reply-To: Colin E. Johnson NNTP-Posting-Host: taos.cs.unm.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29370 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18006 In article , Rudolf B Blazek wrote: >Hi all, > I just bought a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXTstation. I found out that it >has a connector that I have never seen before. It looks like 25 pin serial >or printer connectors [it has both, male and female - for daisy-chaining]. > So I just wanted to ask if that is some kind of standard SCSI connector. >If so, would you know about a cheap source of a gender-bender or a cable? >Or should I rather buy a cable from IOmega ($15)? Is it a reasonable >price? > If it is not a standard SCSI connector, I am going after IOmega, since >the box says 'Mac and SCSI compatible'. Is it at least possible to connect >such a cable to the Mac? > > I know that I might have a serious gap in education in the SCSI cables >area, but the manual says that if you don't wanna use an IOmega >proprietary SCSI board, you would need a gender bender. That raised my >suspicion. You'll need a SCSI-2 to DB25 cable. That should work just fine. It's a pretty standard cable. You should be able to get one at a better computer supply store. -- Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ A fabulous reminder that there's more then one way to skin a groove! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!172.chicago-036.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT ADB Keyboard on a macintosh Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:20:35 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.63.172 In article , rifrain@avana.net (Jay Craft) wrote: > I heard that the NeXT adb keyboard works with the mac adb, and, wanting to > have the coolest/oddest looking system around, I was planning to replace > my broken keyboard with one. Has anyone tried this? I would be quite > interested to know if the command and option keys worked (the NeXT > keyboard has an ALT key which i would assume would be option?) and most > importantly if the POWER key worked so i could turn my computer on if I so > desired :) > This will work. They are completely compatible. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux8.cso.uiuc.edu!bclothie From: brent allen clothier Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR NEXT BLACK HARDWARE Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:49:37 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ux8.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bclothie@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: Well, you can start by visiting comp.sys.next.marketplace. People usually post black hardware for sale there. I am also interested in purchasing older NeXT equipment (color turbo cube in particular) and during my search have found this Website helpful: www.deepspacetech.com. This is a company that sells slabs, cubes, and replacement parts (mostly refurbished although you might be able to find new peripherals, i.e., keyboards, mice, etc.). I am unsure, however, about whether or not you will get the best deal here. If anyone would like to comment on their prices/service please do. Being new to this arena, I am very open to advice, comments, and suggestions. I would really like to know what constitutes a fair price for a good condition color turbo slabs or cube. Brent On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, V.P. DiMascio wrote: > anyone know where to start? > > thanks > vince > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: 18 Jun 1997 00:35:53 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5o7ah9$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <5o4tbs$gtf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5o516o$dn0$1@news.digifix.com> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: p12.cisco1.precipice.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: sanguish@digifix.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76500 comp.sys.next.hardware:29373 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30681 In <5o516o$dn0$1@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish wrote: > On 06/16/97, Rick Sanford wrote: > >In <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> iedsp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > >> Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Can't find any. > >> Are they out yet? > >> > >> Please respond via e-mail since I can only POST TO USENET. > >> THANKS! > >> > >> Dave (iedsp@agt.gmeds.com) > >> > >> ..my lame attempt at a joke removed > I think they meant something a little more powerful and than > video game though. > > > oh yeah, well then, more seriously perhaps, WinCE devices are said to be closer to having color support than things such as (th most excellent) Newton devices. Color seems to follow along naturaly however, and as happened to Mac and NeXT, I am sure color palmtops will be around someday relatively soon. there was discussion about a VGA adapter that works with these types of devices via PCMCIA card, and while its use for using (in this case) Newton's for presentations, my understanding is that color isn't anywhere inside yet. can't remember about CE thingies. of course this is a hardware discussion, so I'll not get into what makes good or useful color, as that would be advocacy. some seem to think 8 colors is better than 8 shades of gray, for instance, while others will happily wait for (decent) 12-bit color before bothering. I guess it's all in the size of the box of crayons you have. Then again you could say that green backlighting counts as color ;-) I can't see the need for color other than as a sales gimmick (to prop up disappointing sales of CE devices) for a while. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.planetc.com!news From: "Sovereign Partners ltd." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: A super sale Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:30:37 -0400 Organization: Sovereign Partners Ltd.-Offshore Opportunities Lines: 407 Message-ID: <5o7a5a$rtp@news.planetc.com> Reply-To: Edding@planetc.com NNTP-Posting-Host: knisdn-110.planetc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) We Have the potential from our Home based Business of earnings of $70,000 a month and we will pay little or no taxes Dear Friend; Those are strong words, I know. But if you're not making at least a TENTH of what some make every month, you need to pay attention because I have an IMPORTANT MESSAGE on how you can make what some are earning and do so in the next 90 days! For years I have spun my wheels in various Home Based Business Opportunities with little success. A few months ago I finally found the key to making bundles of money, right from my home, selling a product everyone in the world needs and wants....INFORMATION! I'm going to help you do the same if you JUST listen and learn how others make over $70,000 A MONTH with one of the HOTTEST Selling Reports in the world today! => I will set you up in your own Home Based Business for only $50.00! => I will GIVE you one of the FASTEST selling products in the world that you can reproduce YOURSELF for pennies! => I will show you how you can become a Self Publisher & sell one of the most Powerful & Provocative Reports ever written - right from your own home! => I will let you keep ALL the money you make selling this product! You don't need to spend thousands of dollars, bear enormous risk and work hundreds of hours a week to start this legitimate business from your home. In a matter of hours you can start working at HOME, from your, KITCHEN TABLE making from $50 to $1,000 a day and all you need is a........ #1. The Hottest Selling Publication In The World Today Called OFS's Offshore Special Report #2. A copy Machine or A Quick Copy Service That Can Duplicate OFS's Offshore Special Report #3. A Quality Mailing List Or A Local Or National Publication To Run A SIMPLE Four Line Classified Ad! #4. A mail Box To Collect The Hundreds Of Orders You Will Be Receiving Everyday - Six Days A Week. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The key to any business success is to have a product or service everyone in the world needs and wants. That product should be inexpensive to produce & easy to ship. You will have that product with OFS's Offshore Special Report. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ OFS's Offshore Special Report, will change peoples lives throughout the world by showing them how they can make and save money by removing themselves from the strict rules, regulations and tax burdens their government has imposed on them in the last few years. BRACE YOURSELF - most people are taken aback by what I am about to tell you regarding OFS's Offshore Special Report In OFS's Offshore Special Report You will find out how................... => UNFAIR & DISCRIMINATORY divorce settlements are made obsolete in this report! => RUTHLESS creditors will CRINGE if they know you have read this report! => BLOOD SUCKING lawyers may go broke by you reading this report! => HEARTLESS Tax Agencies see RED when they read this report! => SNEAKY politicians use the information in this report everyday! => Your GREEDY banker does not want you to read this report! => This report is BLACKBALLED by most government agencies! => BACK STABBING relatives HATE this report! You will also learn and/or have access to.......................... Ways the RICH & POLITICIANS get even richer using TRUSTS and you can do the same! Incorporate Offshore - Completely private & away from your government's regulations! Your own secret offshore mailing address - no one will know your real address! * Save up to 50% on print & mail & have your sales material mailed from Jamaica - If you are in the mail order business, here's a money saving opportunity no one else can offer! Offshore Investors - Do you have a viable funding project? * Offshore Tax Havens - Legally delay or eliminate taxes - no one knows - not even your government! Offshore IBC's & Trusts - Asset protection from creditors & your government! * Offshore Phone Answering Service - More privacy - more protection! Offshore Self-Liquidating Loans - If structured right, it never needs to be paid back! * High Yield Offshore Investment Opportunities - Find out how the rich make from 1% to 4% a week on their money - offshore and tax free - you can do the same! Offshore Visa Card Regardless of Credit - no paper trails - works in any ATM machine worldwide! * Up to 100% financing on residential & commercial property - hard to place mortgage sources! 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The best deal of all is that you will have FULLREPRINT RIGHTS and the permission to sell OFS'S Offshore Special Report, YOU keep all the money! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Information is the perfect product. It's easy to reproduce, easy to ship and easy to sell (especially when it's as powerful as this offshore report). The market is unlimited in that you can sell Report# 5599 to anyone, anyplace in the world. The potential is unlimited because there are billions of people throughout the world who need this Report and the possibility of just a fraction of these people being introduced to this report is minute.... I mean everyone needs this Report........ People who have a J.O.B. and have "More Month than Money" - You know what a "J.O.B." is - Just Over Broke! People who are self employed - Paying that "Self Employment Tax" and are prime candidates for Law Suits from every direction. * People who are sick and tired of frivolous law suits - did you know that in the U.S. there are 2.67 lawyers for every 1,000 people? These lawyers are HUNGRY and need to sue someone for any reason to survive! Professional people such as doctors, technicians, architects, stock brokers, accountants, and YES even lawyers! - You know those people in the HIGHERTHAN AVERAGE tax brackets! * People who are getting married or are married and plan on living happily ever after - now back to reality - the U.S. has a divorce rate that exceeds 60% every year! Partners who want to make sure their partnership is a true 50-50 deal now and in the future! People who live in a country that has strict rules and regulations limiting where and how they can run their business and manage their money! * People who are retired and at the MERCY of their governments' rules concerning Social Security Income and Medicare Benefits! People who WANT to retire but cannot afford to because of lack of income or the rules put upon them from their government - restricting them from receiving a decent income! People who are HIGH audit risks or have been audited by their governments' Dictatorial Tax Agency - You know "Guilty Until Proven Innocent". People who are paying their government 40% - 60% in taxes and are sick and tired of doing so! * People who are close to Bankruptcy and need to find a solution as soon as possible - 20% to 40% of the people in the United States are a paycheck away from Bankruptcy - Yes those people! People who want to make sure their children receive 100% of their inheritance without the government stealing it away! * People who need credit and have been turned down through traditional sources such as their local FRIENDLY bank! People who want to keep their business and personal affairs PRIVATE - hard to do this day and age with all the computers! * People who have the dream of financial independence and wan t o make thousands a day running their own Home Based Business! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You must agree with me there is a tremendous market throughout the world; of people who are breathing and paying taxes who are prime candidates for this report ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Since we have determined the entire world is a prime candidate for this report let me show you how easy it is to sell this report working from your kitchen table. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hold On! How rude of me! I have been talking to you for the last three pages without officially introducing myself! So let me officially introduce myself - I'm one of several OFS Independent Associates making FIVE DIGITS every month! I'm possibly the person who introduced you to this Phenomenal Money Making Opportunity! - I'm probably your sponsor - I'm the person who you will pay the $50.00 to and receive this report I'm the person who will change your life forever! I'm the person who wants to see you succeed because if you succeed - I succeed! I want to make sure you succeed and you sell hundreds, even thousands of reports every week! The more you sell the more money I can make! It's TRUE you keep ALL the money when you sell a report! You pay me NOTHING other than the initial $50.00 for the report - not one single dollar more - you keep it all! Sell only 10 reports a week and make $500.00 - you keep it all -! Sell 100 reports a week and make $5,000.00 - you keep it all! Sell 500 reports a week and make $25,000 - you keep it all! Before I tell you why and how I make money every time you sell a report let me show you how EASY it is to advertise and sell "The Hottest Selling Report In The World" - OFS's Offshore Special Report! This report has been designed to be self-contained with all the marketing concepts on how to sell the report RIGHT INSIDE. In your copy of this report you will have access to the following marketing strategies and tolls..... * Samples of proven classified ads you can place in local or national publications that will make you FILTHY RICH! * A POWERFUL photo ready copy of a postcard you can put YOUR name & address on and have the $50.00 sent directly to you - AUTOMATICALLY. I will show you how you can print and mail that postcard - FIRST CLASS - for as little as TWELVE CENTS(U.S.) each! Once you send in your Certificate of Registration from this report you will also receive..... Additional DYNAMITE classified and display ads that will generate hundreds, even thousands, of responses guaranteeing to fill your mail box with $50.00 orders! * Places to advertise for as little as seven cents (U.S.) per word reaching over 73,000,000 people! A co-op advertising program sharing in the leads and sales generated from National Television Infomercial! * A photo ready copy of this ORDER PULLING Sales Letter for YOUR use to mail to the respondent of your ads! * Duplicate copy of an Audio Cassette Tape of this ORDER PULLING Sales Letter! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Become an Offshore Broker and make more money than most dream of helping others find and save money! OFS's Offshore Special Report has a variety of money making opportunities and the "Offshore Broker" is just one of them! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm not greedy - I just love what money does for me & my family! As the person who introduce YOU to this report I have the opportunity to make over-rides on every Report you sell. You see, I'm not happy JUST making $50.00 on the report I sold you. I would like to retire in the near future, sit back and receive hundreds, even thousands, of dollars a week for my past efforts of selling this Report In this report there are additional money making opportunities by having people establishing what are called International Business Corporations, Asset Protection Trusts (among other Offshore Business Support Services) and I can receive commissions and over rides having people buying these services whether I personally sell them myself or you sell them through the initial sale of this report That's why I'm interested in YOUR success. I want you to become a MILLIONAIRE by selling thousands of reports! Here are a few of the additional money making opportunities contained in this Report from which I can make over-rides by becoming and "Offshore Broker"... => First, I make $50.00 on this offshore report ( Initially sold to you ) in addition... => I can make up to $100 helping people set up an Offshore Checking Account! => I can make up to $180 for every International Business Corporation established! => I can Make up to $2,500 for every trust set up - Domestic or Offshore! => I can make up to $50 for every Self-Liquidating Loan Manual sold! => I can make up to $100 for every Offshore Print & Mail order! => I can make up to $200 for every Offshore Visa Account Card established! => I can make up to $100 for everyone who receives a $15,000 Unsecured Line of Credit through a Major Bank Credit Card! => If I feel really energetic I can set up and run a TRUST AGENCY in my area and have people sell TRUSTS for me (someone like an Insurance Agency)! The money-making potential is tremendous by hiring several people who work in my area. I'm your sponsor and because of my efforts in selling YOU this offshore report I have the opportunity to make Lifetime Residuals from your efforts in selling this offshore report to others! I'm truly amazed at the marketing concept offered through OFS's Offshore Special Report The concept is so simple and it is COMPLETELY DUPLICATABLE! By making sure YOU MAKE thousands of dollars a week I'm going to get FILTHY STINKING RICH off your success! If it seems like I am BRAGGING and RUBBING it in about how I'm going to make bundles of money from your efforts it's TRUE! You should be as EXCITED as I am because this report allows YOU to DUPLICATE MY EFFORTS! When you sell a report to others you will be in my position - to make ALL the over-rides and commissions I have just talked about - on those who sell this offshore report ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The following questions and answers are designed to answer most of the concerns you may have. This should give you enough information to determine if OFS's Offshore Special Report is your tool for making thousands of dollars a week as a home based business. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Q. Do I have to personally sell the report & the other Offshore Business Services to people who respond to my ads? A. No! This is really a two fold question. Let's talk about the selling of the offshore report first. All you have to do is place an ad or mail the postcards. If you place an ad or mail the respondent THIS SALES LETTER and let THIS SALES LETTER do the rest for you - no need to talk to anyone! If you mail the postcard your job is done! The postcard will ask the respondent to send $50.00 to your mailing address. If you decide to become an Offshore Broker and qualify to receive over-rides and commissions on the Offshore Business Support Services the PARENT COMPANY will do the selling for you if you wish. This is a "NO BRAINIER" and can be as simple or as complicated as you want to make it... Talk to the people if you wish or don't - this offshore report sells itself! Q. How many hours per week will I have to devote to my business? A. One to sixty hours a week! Here's a question I will answer with a question... How much money do you want to make? Common sense says the more ads you run and the more mailings you do the more money you will make! The statistics show that for every 100 responses you will receive from your ads, and you mail THIS SALES LETTER, you will sell five to ten reports making you $250.00 to $500.00 (U.S.). Your ad responses will vary depending on the place you advertise and the circulation of the publication. The more ads you run the more time you will need to devote to you Home Based Business. Q. Just how much money will I need to start my Home Based Business? A. $50.00! Yeah I know - you're thinking you will need money for ads and mailings. Well - I've had people start with $50.00 (U.S.) and make ten copies of the report and sold them to their associates and friends giving them $500.00 (U.S.). That gave them enough money to start running ads and buy stamps. In looking at all the money making opportunities offered in the world today I really don't think you can get started for any less than $50.00 and have a REAL LEGITIMATE money-making opportunity than the one offered in this offshore report. Q. If I have additional questions who will answer them for me? A. I will or the Parent Company will! No package of information, no matter how complete, can possibly answer every question that may come up. I do not want you to lose money seeking out the answers. I want you to succeed. You will receive a phone number in or offshore report where you can either reach me or someone from the parent company for any questions or help you need! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here's a valuable bonus for ordering within 10 days.... Your's absolutely FREE! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I have persuaded the parent company - Offshore Financial Services, LTD. - to give you their OFS Offshore Business Journal - Volume I - FREE OF CHARGE - as a bonus for ordering our report within 10 days of the postmark on the envelope this Sales Letter came in or within ten days of receiving this e-mail. You will receive the Journal when you send in your "Certificate Of Registration" found in the report. The information in this Journal is priceless and can NOT be found anywhere but RIGHT HERE! Here's a sample of that information.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bonus #1 OFS's Offshore Business Journal * Your IRS Returns are suppose to be private - not so! * Funds through on-line computer services! * Raising capital without borrowing from the bank! * How to get medicines before they are approved by the FDA! * Airlines will handle your baggage with special care if you know the secret! * You can borrow money from your IRA. Just don't call it a loan! * How to get free subscriptions to over 69 magazines! * Establish AAA credit in 30 days! * Why Americans are mad as HELL! * Sources for quick cash loans! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bonus #2 offshore report Support Package * How to reach over 73,000,000 people for as little as 7 cents per word! * How to set up voice mail & never talk to anyone who responds to your ads! * To use or not to use a mailing list? * How to receive free names to mail to! * How to mail your postcards & sales flyers "First Class" for as low as 12 cents each - includes printing! * How to collect $5.00 from people who want to receive This Sales Letter! Sincerely, Salmon G. Eddingtton PS. Your only cost is $50.00 which you will make on your FIRST sale. You have little to risk and a FORTUNE to make. Here's your chance - for only $50.00 to change your life forever. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Please rush me ______ copy's of OFS's Offshore Special Report Number 5599. I understand I have Full Reprint Rights and can sell Report# 5599 for $50.00 (U.S.) keeping ALL THE MONEY. I have enclosed a MONEY ORDER for $50.00 (Money Orders only please, leave payee portion blank) Mail my report to: Your Name: _____________________________________________________________ Address: ______________________________________________________________ City: _____________________________________________________________ State: ______________________________________________________________ Zip: ______________________________________________________________ Phone: (_____) ______ ___________ Mail this form and the money order for $50.00 ((U.S.) Leave payee portion blank)****** Salmon G. Eddingtton 5201 Kingston Pike, Suite 6146 Knoxville,TN, 37919-5026 Edding@planetc.com (423) 558-9076 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 on VirtualPC Date: 18 Jun 1997 00:43:29 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5o7avh$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <33A6778D.2C69@interweb.be> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: p12.cisco1.precipice.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: martin.laurent@interweb.be In <33A6778D.2C69@interweb.be> Martin Laurent wrote: > I tried to install OpenStep 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody) on VirtualPC 1.0b6 > but I didn't manage. It ask me which driver to use for the CD-ROM drive > but I don't know which to choose. > When I choose "Primary/Secondary(Dual) EIDE and ATAPI Device Controllers > (v4.01)" (Yes I know, it's not SCSI but it doesn't cost anything to try) > it recognize the CD-ROM and begin to boot on it but crash after > displaying "Power Management Enabled". I tried some of the others > drivers but the others don't recognize the CD at all. > > Can you help me ? > > Martin Laurent, > Limauges Software > since they (connectix) list OPENSTEP as a supported system on their literature, I'd give 'em a call / e-mail. someone there has it working. the flyer says they provide tech support and 30-day money back guarantee. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news.mr.net!bitstream.net!not-for-mail From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need audio box for NeXT Station Color Date: 18 Jun 1997 01:04:32 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5o7c70$d54$1@maryj.bitstream.net> References: <33a5c4b1.364462724@newshost.us.oracle.com> Reply-To: cejensen@bitstream.net NNTP-Posting-Host: port126.bitstream.net In-Reply-To: <33a5c4b1.364462724@newshost.us.oracle.com> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-30007-01 On 06/16/97, Rick Hellman wrote: >I just inherited a NSC, but the audio box is nowhere to be found. >Does anyone have one for sale, or know where to get one cheap? >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Try: www.orb.com www.deepspacetech.com -- ******************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, NeXTMail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.igc.apc.org!usenet From: Kevin Pedersen Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:11:00 -0800 Organization: Technical Solutions Lines: 8 Message-ID: <33A75FCC.3162@igc.apc.org> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <5o4tbs$gtf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5o516o$dn0$1@news.digifix.com> <5o7ah9$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Reply-To: kpedersen@igc.apc.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.239.20.123 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76522 comp.sys.next.hardware:29377 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30684 ...The closest that I can imagine is Casio's (or is it TI?) 4-color programmable graphing calculator. Optional cables are available to connect to your PC/Mac and upload files and programs downloaded from the internet. I have a monochrome HP graphing calc and, assuming that the 4-color one is comparable, it may be a possible alternative. Check it out at your local university bookstore. :) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!ciphp01.physik.uni-freiburg.de!not-for-mail From: steinke@ciphp01.physik.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Steinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PS2Mouse lockup on NS3.3 Intel Date: 18 Jun 1997 07:29:57 GMT Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany Lines: 61 Message-ID: <5o82pl$95r@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: ciphp01.physik.uni-freiburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi everybody, I wonder if anybody has experienced PS2Mouse lockups after sucessful installation. The MS mouse used to work (and still does in DOS) in the beginning, but it seems some kind of driver conflict must have arisen in the meantime. Possibilities: 3COM Elink3 Ethernet, FAST VDOboard - none of these uses INT12 though... NCR 53c810 SCSI onboard (INT 15) in a Dell Optiplex 5100 DGX Pentium System, the keyboard is PS2 as well. Help would be greatly appreciated, - -- /(__ __|\ Lars Steinke, Research Student @ ( \/ __)_ www.fmf.uni-freiburg.de, Germany ) (_____ / for PGP PKey and WWW-Page finger /___________/ steinke@mibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBM6eNssMnaHd2HseJAQEBbAP/aMsgR9TRgLD9mHx8qbg3oNbsMQN/zr4u 6rLptZEz6gKRL96Z27jf6etYTdLSSxzyh7Uwi23YCkvZNjfj/sAbErD1zWMY1IJC dEdOO6nYFNPQyNW4LrXjh/r9X5kbHDoCl/tc9xa95DlRtBxm+RM+xlchbUOfOdE8 LJc+PTSNLLc= =TBTv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024/761EC789 1996/07/02 Lars Steinke Lars Steinke Lars S. 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It ask me which driver to use for the CD-ROM drive >but I don't know which to choose. >When I choose "Primary/Secondary(Dual) EIDE and ATAPI Device Controllers >(v4.01)" (Yes I know, it's not SCSI but it doesn't cost anything to try) >it recognize the CD-ROM and begin to boot on it but crash after >displaying "Power Management Enabled". I tried some of the others >drivers but the others don't recognize the CD at all. > I had a similar problem trying to install 3.3 on a laptop (I eventually gave up because I couldn't get the video driver to work, but that's another story.) If I turned off power management in the BIOS it worked fine. Does VirtualPC have some kind of preferences gizmo to do this? -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com!luomat From: Timothy J Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR NEXT BLACK HARDWARE Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:08:37 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com To: "V.P. DiMascio" In-Reply-To: X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat There was a man named James Moosmann who was selling NeXT hardware on csn.marketplace. Most of these units have seen a lot of hours, and last time I saw anything posted there by him he had stopped saying anything about the condition of the machines which was shortly after a dissatisfied customer posted his grievance over the quality of a machine he had received. DeepSpaceTech and Spherical both have longstanding, very good reputations, and I have heard good things about IBG and ComputerActive also. I have never bought anything from any of these folk, so you're on your own, however here are some starting links: DeepSpaceTech http://www.deepspacetech.com/Nexthardware.html Spherical Solutions http://www.orb.com/Inventory/index.html Internet Business Group http://ibgi.com/nextsale.htm computerActive http://www.computeractive.com/cAi/usedstuff/ As with any used purchase, be sure to ask more questions than you think you need to, make sure you know what is going to be inside the box when it arrives, and what is not. Make sure you know what happends if something is broken in transit. Pay extra for FedEx over UPS (UPS has a reputation of mishandling equipment, and leaving boxes at your door [which they did to me while I wsa home!]). Get the names of people you talk with and what they tell you. Fax your order, and keep a copy, or (better) have them fax you a copy of the shipping statement before anything is sent, detailing prices (inclduing shipping), specifications (ie: 'color 21" Sony monitor' rather than 'monitor' or 'color monitor' or 'Sony monitor'. That's all I can think of at the moment. If you want more sites, checkout the NeXT bookmarks file on my page. TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing." - Dr Robert Cupper, Department of CS, Allegheny College #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!not-for-mail From: Paul Sabatino Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Termination requirements Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:21:35 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <33A7E0DE.183AA67A@osu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts30-9.homenet.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I have been playing around with different internal SCSI disks on my Black NeXTstation and have been getting error code 65 with a Maxtor LXT-213sy. I know from experience with other disks that the correct termination on the internal disk is an important factor in preventing the SCSI bus from hanging. So my question is what is the termination requirements for the Slab? Does the drive supply the termination power or does the bus? TIA Paul Sabatino sabatino.9@osu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feeder.chicago.cic.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.sojourn.com!not-for-mail From: gcl@mail.sojourn.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Michigan(517): Single Guy ISO Lovely Lady for Love and Romance Date: 17 Jun 1997 01:14:19 GMT Organization: Sojourn Systems Ltd. Lines: 109 Message-ID: <5o4odb$srk$1@tkhut.sojourn.com> Reply-To: gcl@mail.sojourn.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-249.sojourn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Sincere Ad: DWM iso S/DWF in Michigan for love and romance ! (DWM iso S/DWF) I just can't find what I am looking for: an honest, moral, sweet, loving, happy, monogamous, friendly, intelligent, respectful, romantic woman that wants to settle down and enjoy an uncomplicated life of love and romance. I truly believe that there is someone that is ready to share a life like this with a nice, honest man that has all those same qualities also. I have so much to give to the right woman, and all I want in return is to be loved and respected like I will love and respect her. All I look for physically in a lady is a cuteness that I may only see, and a semi-healthy lifestyle. I am a very healthy, health conscious person, I don't over exercise (ie: not obsessed with fitness), but I eat healthy and I am in pretty good shape. The kind of love I'm looking for is the kind that lasts through thick and thin, and for better or worse. It takes a special kind of love to stick out any and all situations that may arise in life. I want a best friend to enjoy all my time with. A person that can communicate and discuss differences to come to mutually agreeable conclusion is the dream relationship. My ex-wife bailed on me when I was working a job full time and going to college at nights so that we could have a nice comfortable future, but I guess she didn't see it that way. Now that I have a degree and upwardly mobile career position with a very large international corporation; my life is ironed out and on the right track, but I have nobody to share my successes with . People usually ask me "why are you single if you sound like such a great guy"? My answer is very simple; I have a great life now, I don't play games and I feel most people tend to do that, so being single is an easy life where I don't have to deal with those problems. I know life isn't perfect, but if I have to stay single so I don't get caught up in all that mess, I guess I will stay single. Life doesn't have to be complicated, I lead a very stress-free happy life, and I'd love to find a sweetheart to share that with, and to share her life too..... I am single by choice, I get asked out once in a while, but unfortunately by women who I don't want to date. I live in Lansing Michigan, which is really a nice south central part of Michigan. In the 2 years that I have been here, I have made some good friends, but even after some dating and trying to find *her*, I haven't been lucky enough to find the sweetheart I've been looking for. I don't sleep around and I have never been unfaithful in a relationship. I'm not looking for Miss America, but I do need someone that is cute with a nice smile. I look more toward the personality, a cheerful demeanor, intelligence, and an all-around happy person. Being around someone like that makes me all the more happier and I enjoy life more then too. Honesty and trust mean everything to me, I am a very virtuous man. -If you want a man that wants to love, cherish, adore, respect, and emotionally support you forever, I'm that man. -If you want a man that spends more time away from home with his buddies, drinking and running around, I'm NOT that man. -If you want a man who would never cheat on you, no matter what, because his morals would never let him, I'm that man. -If you want an decent looking man, someone that is handsome and clean-cut, that looks a lot younger than his 35 years, I'm that man. -If you want a man with dark blond hair, blue eyes and a clear complexion, who is tall (5'11"), broad, and an average build (200#, which is about HWP for my build), I'm that man. -If you want a man that is clean and organized, picks up after himself, is a good cook, and shares the household work, I'm that man. -If you want a man that doesn't treat you like a lady, that doesn't like to kiss, hug, and show affection towards you, I'm NOT that man. -If you want a romantic, imaginative, creative man, that can give a woman the romance she needs, I'm that man. -If you want a man that will spend time with you doing the things you want to do also, because he has an interest in seeing what makes you who you are, I'm that man. -If you want someone that sits around all weekend watching sports on TV and ignoring you, I'm NOT that man. -If you want a man that is sensitive and truly cares and respects other people's feelings, I am that man. -If you want someone to spend a relaxing life of work, family, love, and fun without the anxiety, problems, and games that a lot of people put into relationships, I'm that man. -If you want a man that isn't concerned about your sexuality and doesn't care about pleasing you, I'm NOT that man. -If you are looking for a man that like cultural activities like the theatre, opera, symphony, concerts, museums, etc, I'm that man. -If you want a man who can have an intelligent conversation, who can be very funny, yet can be serious when needed, I'm that man. -If you want a man that is your best friend, that will stand next to you and support you in any endeavor, as you would support me, I'm that man. -If you want a man from a loving middle-class family background, with high morals and ethical values, I'm that man. -If you want a man who is successful at his career, loves his work, does not work too much, and is fairly stress-free, I'm that man. -If you want a man who has never been arrested or in trouble, and does not associate with such people, I'm that man. -If you want a man that goes to strip bars, gambles his money away, smokes cigarettes and drinks heavily, I am NOT that man. -If you want a man who is honest, who would always tell you the truth, and would never lie by omission, I'm that man. I need to be loved, and to love someone, just like you do. It's tearing my heart up, I have so much to give. I'm ready for a committed, life-long relationship, are you? Please write and lets talk. -Gary gcl@mail.sojourn.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!128.113.100.15!rpi!not-for-mail From: wongj@alumni.rpi.edu (Jasper Y. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: 18 Jun 1997 09:49:56 -0400 Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5o8p24$2hrs@alumni.rpi.edu> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <5o516o$dn0$1@news.digifix.com> <5o7ah9$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <33A75FCC.3162@igc.apc.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: alumni.rpi.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76554 comp.sys.next.hardware:29383 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30700 In article <33A75FCC.3162@igc.apc.org>, Kevin Pedersen wrote: >...The closest that I can imagine is Casio's (or is it TI?) 4-color >programmable graphing calculator. Optional cables are available to >connect to your PC/Mac and upload files and programs downloaded from the >internet. I have a monochrome HP graphing calc and, assuming that the >4-color one is comparable, it may be a possible alternative. Check it >out at your local university bookstore. > >:) SHARP has a color palmtop, I believe is model M-10 (or something similar). It is being sold in Japan and supposedly available here in the US sometime during summer. It is roughly 2/3 the size of a Newton, 2 megs RAM, got a color web browser, a PCMCIA slot for an optional digital camera...etc. BTW the screen is capable of displaying 65,535 colors Jasper -- --< NeXT >--| Table Tennis | \ / | Volleyball |--< Amiga >-- | Gergely / TSP X / RITC 802 \ / Tachikara SC-5W / Mizuno | | wongj@rpi.edu, jwong@bccn.org \ / IRC: mizzle @ #unix, #next | --< Homepage forever under .... \/ .... construction >NeXTMail>-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.indiana.edu!news.ind.net!solomon.cs.rose-hulman.edu!deneb.cs.rose-hulman.edu!mgrdcm From: Dan Moore Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Multiple 030 or 040 boards in one cube? Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 08:52:45 -0500 Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Lines: 17 Message-ID: Reply-To: Dan Moore NNTP-Posting-Host: deneb.cs.rose-hulman.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mgrdcm@deneb.cs.rose-hulman.edu I'm looking for information on how to get multiple 030 or 040 boards to work in a single NeXT cube. If you know how, or know where I can learn how, please let me know. Along those lines, is there any place to get information on NeXT clustering/distributed processing software (I believe one was called "Zilla", and yes I do know about PVM). Thanks! (respond by e-mail if possible) Dan Moore - - - - Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, WCC Asst UNIX Manager mgrdcm@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.dearborn.agis.net!news.cinnetic.com!ichabod.doubleu.com!ichabod!scott From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting the monitor to power save Date: 18 Jun 1997 13:51:03 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <5nvp7t$68v$2@bashir.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: doubleu.com In-reply-to: luomat@peak.org's message of 15 Jun 1997 03:57:49 GMT In article <5nvp7t$68v$2@bashir.peak.org> luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: My monitor has power save features. I have enabled power save via root's Preferences.app I have dimmed my monitor to brightness = 0 How do I convince the monitor to go to power save? Have you enabled various DPMS stuff in your system BIOS? Selecting the power save option on NS/OS just enables your system BIOS to accomplish some stuff, NS/OS doesn't itself really do anything. In general, the BIOS will have options like doze, sleep, suspend, and probably others. You can associate different BIOS low-power modes with different options sent to your monitor. You probably want to cycle through the monitor options to get the DPMS modes. I found that I had the best luck disabling all of my power save modes except for sleep (or perhaps suspend, I don't recall which), and setting that mode to the timeout I wanted. Also, you probably don't want to slow down the CPU in a networked environment (remote compiles on a P200 running the CPU at 1/32 normal clock speed are hardly going to set speed records). I made a rather large posting on this in these groups about six months ago. DejaNews, anyone? Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.dearborn.agis.net!news.cinnetic.com!ichabod.doubleu.com!ichabod!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 18 Jun 1997 14:12:30 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <5m24hb$mma@crl2.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: doubleu.com In-reply-to: bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com's message of 22 May 1997 11:50:19 -0700 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:26161 comp.sys.next.advocacy:72156 comp.sys.next.hardware:29386 In article <5m24hb$mma@crl2.crl.com>, bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (Brad Yearwood) writes: In article , Robert A. Decker wrote: >We go through the installation process with the floppies. I set >the CD-ROM to be an Adaptec SCSI driver like one of the tech >notes, with the harddrive to EIDE and that didn't work. I set the >CD-ROM and hardrive to be dual primary/secondary ATAPI/EIDE and >that didn't work. I tried just about every combination that I >could think of and none of them work. I would be inclined to blame an incompatibility with the NEC drive. Note in NeXTanswer 2265 that no NEC drives are in the supported list, and 2 NEC drives are in the Known Problems list. As would I. Last weekend I purchased a 3.1G EIDE drive and a 12x Toshiba ATAPI drive at a computer fair. No boxes, no nothing. Just for grins, pulled my SCSI card and installed NeXTSTEP on the EIDE using the ATAPI drive. Worked fine, really the only problem was that NeXT's fdisk didn't seem all that happy with such a large drive (to be safe, I used Linux to partition the drive and told NeXTSTEP to install itself in the NeXTSTEP partition). That was with NS3.3. OpenStep is easier, as it has actual support for EIDE/ATAPI, rather than crufted on support :-). The machine has two EIDE interfaces, and was originally configured with the hard disk on one, and the CD-ROM on the other. I tried to get this to work with the Dual EIDE driver option, but it would not recognize the CD drive. I'm pretty sure that you still need the ATAPI in the slave position of the primary controller. I've heard noises about this getting fixed at some point, but I've not heard that it _is_ fixed. Whichever tech note suggests specifying the CD as SCSI with an Adaptech interface, is either obsolete or a red herring. Sort of both. NS3.3 needed this, because it couldn't get anywhere without some SCSI controller running. ATAPI actually runs a protocol similar to SCSI (from what I've heard it effectively _is_ SCSI), albeit over IDE cabling. Makes you wonder why SCSI CD-ROM drives cost 2x as much at a given speed as ATAPI CD-ROM drives ... Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.dearborn.agis.net!news.cinnetic.com!ichabod.doubleu.com!ichabod!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Any busmastering EIDE drivers? Date: 18 Jun 1997 14:12:14 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 21 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: doubleu.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29387 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27163 Purchased a 3.1G EIDE drive and a 12x ATAPI CD-ROM at a computer fair this weekend. I've more-or-less got things all installed and booting and loving each other, but ... Under NeXTSTEP, my 2.1G SCSI Seagate Hawk does around 3.5MB/s, and the EIDE drive does 1.6MB/s. Heheh, glad I went with SCSI Back When. Under Linux, my 2.1G Hawk does 4.5MB/s, and the 3.1G EIDE drive does 4.2MB/s. Ho ho, looks like Linux has better drivers than NeXTSTEP. Anyone know if NeXT is going to be releasing busmastering EIDE drivers? Or does anyone else have such a driver? I like SCSI, it's easy to setup, works well with most operating systems I run, but that 2.1G Seagate drive still costs about 2x when the 3.1G Western Digital cost. That can be tough to justify for single-user workstations ... Thanks, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.dearborn.agis.net!news.cinnetic.com!ichabod.doubleu.com!ichabod!shess From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Date: 18 Jun 1997 14:12:32 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: doubleu.com In-reply-to: hugob@tamtam.xs4all's message of Thu, 22 May 1997 11:36:56 GMT In article , hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) writes: In article , "Robert A. Decker" writes: > Is there any problem in using two different video cards from two > different manufacturers as long as both are listed as being > supported? If you are talking about using two PCI video boards for OpenStep/Mach in an Intel PC at the same time: yes, expect some problems. Works, no problem - assuming you've set it up right. For instance, I think you have to have the same video cards, not different types of cards. A pair of Matrox Milleniums or Number9 cards is said to work, not sure beyond that (there's a document on NeXTanswers about these things). Effectively you have two Matrox drivers running - perhaps you could have a Number9 and a Matrox with the Matrox VGA disabled, I don't know. Also not sure on resolutions and the like. I'd expect that the resolutions and memory usage of the cards would have to match, but it may not be a strict requirement. In any case, it's supposed to work just like ye olde NeXTdimension. You can drag windows from monitor to monitor, even leaving a window straddling monitors. One monitor gets to be your "main" workspace, though, with the Dock and alert panels and the like on it (don't want those alert panels popping up straddling the monitors :-). [In fact, when I get my next machine, I'm considering putting two Millenium (or perhaps Millenium Pro/II) cards in it, and getting another for my current machine, and running them through a pair of switchboxes to two monitors. So I could have both system's main desktop at once, or two monitors for either system.] Later, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!News1.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!van-bc!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail Date: 18 Jun 1997 10:28:54 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: Control: cancel <5o7a5a$rtp@news.planetc.com> X-No-Archive: Yes From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: "Sovereign Partners ltd." Subject: cmsg cancel <5o7a5a$rtp@news.planetc.com> Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-By: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Lines: 3 EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970618.04 for further details #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!europa.clark.net!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: ZIP Drive connector Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:22:34 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 27 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29389 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18019 In article , Rudolf B Blazek wrote: >Hi all, > I just bought a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXTstation. I found out that it >has a connector that I have never seen before. It looks like 25 pin serial >or printer connectors [it has both, male and female - for daisy-chaining]. Both??? It should have two male connectors (that's what mine has) unless Iomega has done something really weird. > So I just wanted to ask if that is some kind of standard SCSI connector. >If so, would you know about a cheap source of a gender-bender or a cable? >Or should I rather buy a cable from IOmega ($15)? Is it a reasonable >price? It's the Mac Plus "standard" SCSI connector. It's common enough; even the '030-based NeXT cubes had them. $25 isn't too bad, although you should be able to find one cheaper lcoally. Ask for a Mac Plus to SCSI-2 HD-50 SCSI cable, then look at what they give you to see if it will fit. :) And, just so oyu know this is not in vain, lots of people, including me, use Zip drives on black hardware all the time. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!news-zh.switch.ch!rzunews.unizh.ch!news.ifi.unizh.ch!bob From: ***RemoveMe***harris@ifi.unizh.ch (Will Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Unbootable OpenStep 4.2 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 97 16:35:46 GMT Organization: IFI, Uni Zurich Lines: 58 Message-ID: <5o8vd1$b21@bioko.ifi.unizh.ch> Reply-To: ***RemoveMe***harris@ifi.unizh.ch NNTP-Posting-Host: bob.ifi.unizh.ch X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #2 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29390 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27168 I have tried to run OpenStep 4.2 "Prelude to Rhapsody" on my homebrew PC with great difficulty and very little success. My system has an Intel Triton II motherboard (AMI BIOS 1.00.04.BS0) and four IDE drives: Primary Interface ----------------- Master -> Western Digital AC2700H 720 MB Slave -> Conner CFS 1621A 1.6 GB Secondary Interface ------------------- Master -> Quantum Fireball TM3840A 3.8 GB Slave -> Goldstar CRD-8160B ATAPI 16 speed cdrom drive I intended to have OpenStep reside on a 620 MB partition at the beginning of the Quantum drive (i.e. hd(2)), and I would like to be able to leave these drives as they are currently set up, as I have 3 other operating systems and don't want to disturb them too much. I could possibly switch the Quantum and Conner drives around, but the Western Digital drive will remain the first disk no matter what. I managed to successfully install the OS by removing the two drives from the first IDE interface and putting the Quantum and Goldstar cdrom in their place. The system boots fine if nothing is connected to the secondary interface. However, if I attach those other two drives to the secondary interface, the system boots to a desktop, but is completely unresponsive. When I replace the drives back in their original configuration, I can't boot at all, even from the floppy with the installation CD in the drive and a "boot: hd(2)mach_kernel -s" command line. The drives all appear to be successfully identified during bootup, but after the "power management enabled" message, I just get lots of spurious IDE timeout and error messages. So much for a PC operating system! I have followed all the instructions and advice in NeXTanswers documents 1839, 1487, and 1933, including removing the installation "Primary/Secondary(Dual) EIDE/ATAPI" driver and installing two normal "EIDE/ATAPI" drivers with the appropriate ports and IRQs, but I am still stuck with an unusable OpenStep system. Any help appreciated. Cheers - Will Harris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANTI-SPAMBOT NOTE: For email contact, remove the ***RemoveMe*** prefix ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I was going to be a Neo-Deconstructivist, but Mom wouldn't let me..." Institut fuer Informatik EMAIL: ***RemoveMe***harris@ifi.unizh.ch der Universitaet Zuerich WWW: http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/staff/harris.html Winterthurerstr. 190 TEL: +41-1-257-4346/4566 (office/lab) CH-8057 Zuerich +41-1-251-0135 (home) Switzerland FAX: +41-1-363-0035 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu!not-for-mail From: "Robert A. Decker" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: 18 Jun 97 12:54:03 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <5o7ah9$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host-235.subnet-134.med.umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Rick Sanford" X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 X-News-Servers: news.itd.umich.edu X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.sgi.hardware Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76561 comp.sys.next.hardware:29391 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30704 On Tue, Jun 17, 1997 8:35 PM, Rick Sanford wrote: >and while its use for using (in this case) Newton's >for presentations, my understanding is that color isn't anywhere inside yet. >can't remember about CE thingies. Actually, the Newton Quickdraw routines do support color. However, you won't see it anytime soon because color screens drain the batteries way too fast. Also, you won't be able to use a color screen outdoors in daylight. rob -- Listen to my Realaudio playlist: Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!fido.asd.sgi.com!news From: Max Waterman Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 18:34:58 +0100 Organization: John 3:16 Ltd Lines: 33 Message-ID: <33A81C42.167E@reading.sgi.com> References: <5o7ah9$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: greed.reading.sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76567 comp.sys.next.hardware:29392 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30707 Isn't the new Psion series 5 colour? Max. Robert A. Decker wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 17, 1997 8:35 PM, Rick Sanford > wrote: > >and while its use for using (in this case) Newton's > >for presentations, my understanding is that color isn't anywhere inside > yet. > >can't remember about CE thingies. > > Actually, the Newton Quickdraw routines do support color. However, you > won't see it anytime soon because color screens drain the batteries way too > fast. Also, you won't be able to use a color screen outdoors in daylight. > > rob > -- > > Listen to my Realaudio > playlist: > Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab > University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center > > "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." > -Chris Elliott -- Max Waterman Work : mailto:max@reading.sgi.com +44 1734 257578 Home : mailto:max@john316.u-net.com +44 1935 432643 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.indigo.ie!ts11-08.dublin.indigo.ie!user From: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What SCSI Disks? Date: 18 Jun 1997 17:29:29 GMT Organization: Paul O'Neill Designs Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts11-08.dublin.indigo.ie I am planning to upgrade my recently acquired NextStation Turbo Color (I don¹t think I¹ll ever get used to spelling colour that way) with an 2GB internal HD and an external CD ROM drive. Will any SCSI drives (say suitable for a Mac) do or is there other considerations? Many Thanks, Paul. -- Paul O'Neill Designs Electronic & Software Product Development email : hponeill@indigo.ie web : http://indigo.ie/~hponeill #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.uni-weimar.de!News.HTWM.De!news.tu-chemnitz.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!not-for-mail From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Michigan(517): Single Guy ISO Lovely Lady for Love and Romance Date: 18 Jun 1997 17:18:39 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5o959f$pfk$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5o4odb$srk$1@tkhut.sojourn.com> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) gcl@mail.sojourn.com wrote: > I just can't find what I am looking for: an honest, >moral, sweet, loving, happy, monogamous, friendly, intelligent, >respectful, romantic woman that wants to settle down and enjoy >an uncomplicated life of love and romance. I truly believe that >there is someone that is ready to share a life like this with a >nice, honest man that has all those same qualities also. I have >so much to give to the right woman, and all I want in return is >to be loved and respected like I will love and respect her. This has been fixed in OPENSTEP version 4.2. Make sure you install sufficient memory though, as the shared libs eat up a lot of RAM. Kind regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.uni-weimar.de!News.HTWM.De!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!not-for-mail From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Michigan(517): Single Guy ISO Lovely Lady for Love and Romance Date: 18 Jun 1997 17:16:46 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5o955u$pfk$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5o4odb$srk$1@tkhut.sojourn.com> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!IN-Berlin.DE!fub!aurora.in-berlin.de!ingmar From: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen) Subject: Re: ZIP Drive connector Message-ID: <1997Jun18.190803.11929@aurora.in-berlin.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Lines: 23 Organization: INDIVIDUAL NETWORK Berlin e.V. X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970320] References: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:08:03 GMT Lines: 32 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29396 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18022 In comp.sys.next.hardware Rudolf B Blazek wrote: : I just bought a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXTstation. I found out that it : has a connector that I have never seen before. It looks like 25 pin serial : or printer connectors [it has both, male and female - for daisy-chaining]. : So I just wanted to ask if that is some kind of standard SCSI connector. : If so, would you know about a cheap source of a gender-bender or a cable? This is a SCSI connector that is/was somewhat widespread with older Mac's, I've been told. And I have even seen pictures of old '030 NeXTcubes that seemed to have that kind of SCSI connector instead of the high density 50pin connectors the newer models and the NeXTstations have. You should be able to get an appropriate "25pin-SCSI-to-50pin-High-density-SCSI" cable. (Attention: There are several *different* "high density" SCSI connector versions available; therefor I recommend to take the manual for the NeXTstation to the dealer where you want to buy the cable/adaptor.) Hope this helps, [F'up!] __ __ \_V_/ ___Y___ +-----------+ |\__/. .\ Ingmar Camphausen | USE PGP! |\ O---m /| \ \_____/| ingmar@in-berlin.de | (key via server |/`-------'\| \_U__////_/ (NeXTmail/MIME OK!) | or on request) +-----------+ Golden Key Campaign -- A supercomputer is a machine that runs an endless loop in 2 seconds #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!not-for-mail From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cancel Control: cancel <5o955u$pfk$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> Date: 18 Jun 1997 20:07:28 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5o9f60$cvf$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de cancel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!not-for-mail From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cancel Control: cancel <5o955u$pfk$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> Date: 18 Jun 1997 20:07:40 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5o9f6c$cvf$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de cancel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.pagesat.net!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!roberson From: roberson@ibd.nrc.ca (Walter Roberson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: 18 Jun 1997 03:32:20 GMT Organization: National Research Council Canada Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5o7ks4$1vf$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: zeno.ibd.nrc.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76589 comp.sys.next.hardware:29397 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30714 In article <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca>, wrote: :Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Can't find any. :Are they out yet? At the Silicon Graphics Developers Forum last week, SGI people were not even hinting on working on a laptop, let alone a palmtop. I would think they'd have serious problems in shrinking RE^2 graphics into a small-enough physical space for a palmtop. Personally I suspect that they gave up the whole idea when they realized that as soon as they stuffed a RealityMonster into one of those little palmtop cases, which the marketters would immediately colour some shade of purple, that everyone would immediately start referring to the product as "Baby Bop" (of Barney fame). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!199.177.127.11!news.sojourn.com!not-for-mail From: gcl@mail.sojourn.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5o4odb$srk$1@tkhut.sojourn.com> Control: cancel <5o4odb$srk$1@tkhut.sojourn.com> Date: 18 Jun 1997 21:04:00 GMT Organization: Sojourn Systems Ltd. Lines: 1 Message-ID: <5o9ig0$a81$1@tkhut.sojourn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-118.sojourn.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!chippy.visi.com!visi.com!news-out.visi.com!jacobs.Geeks.ORG!not-for-mail From: David Young Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ZIP Drive connector Date: 18 Jun 1997 21:54:35 GMT Organization: Geeks Organizations Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5o9ler$h2f$1@darla.visi.com> References: <1997Jun18.190803.11929@aurora.in-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: jacobs.geeks.org NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jun 1997 16:54:36 CDT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970123] In comp.sys.next.hardware Ingmar Camphausen wrote: > This is a SCSI connector that is/was somewhat widespread with older > Mac's, I've been told. And I have even seen pictures of old '030 > NeXTcubes that seemed to have that kind of SCSI connector instead of > the high density 50pin connectors the newer models and the > NeXTstations have. Hmm. On a related note, does anyone have one of the internal SCSI zip drives? Has anyone tried mounting one in place of the floppy in a cube case? -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net :: :: PGP fingerprint :: 89F5 E75D 4749 3FF4 :: ED92 1B6D 9871 9B93 :: #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!cholden From: Clay Holden Subject: Help: "Can't load blk0 boot" Message-ID: Sender: cholden@netcom.netcom.com Organization: The John Dee Publication Project Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:28:23 GMT Lines: 57 Hope this is the proper newsgroup to post this question... I just purchased a 1991-vintage NeXTstation (25 MHz, 16 MB RAM), which I am told was working fine before being shipped out to California. Although it was previously connected to Ethernet, it was set to boot off the internal drive. No external SCSI device was ever connected. I watched it run the "Loading From Disk" sequence, finally giving the message "SCSI Error" before returning to the "Loading From Disk" message and repeating until I turned it off. Having set the boot sequence to "verbose" logging in the ROM Monitor, I now get this printout when it tries to boot: > Starting Extended Self Test... > Extended SCSI Test > System test passed. > > Boot command: sd > boot sd(0,0,0) > booting SCSI target 1, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd()sdmach > Booting from SCSI target 1 lun 0 > READ: bad status detected in sdcmd: 0 > sd()sdmach: read error > blk0 boot: sd()sdmach > Booting from SCSI target 1 lun 0 > READ: bad status detected in sdcmd: 0 > sd()sdmach: read error > Can't load blk0 boot Is there any way to troubleshoot the boot blocks from the ROM Monitor? Or perhaps from a boot floppy (which I don't have)? I understand the system is loaded with NeXT Software Release 2.1. Is the HD perhaps complete toast? Do I need to reload the system software from scratch? Incidentally, I did not get any System Software media with this system, so am looking to purchase same. Hopefully something a bit more recent than what appears to be currently loaded. Any help will be appreciated. Clay P.S. Remove "NOSPAM" from my email address to reply off-list. Thanks. Clay Holden ( - ) http://www.dnai.com/~cholden ( + ) "Super caelestes roretis aquae: __:__ Et terra fructum dabit suum." | -John Dee /^|^\ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!feeder.chicago.cic.net!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!firehose.mindspring.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: "Heath Tucker" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Resolution qurstion Date: 18 Jun 1997 23:59:31 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 25 Message-ID: <01bc7c42$7a82a7c0$03ac2ac0@cupertino> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kbu45.dialup.mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 I just read a few posts about NeXT dimensions and their resolution of 640x480. I have to say that that does not sound very impresive at all. I have never see a ND running, so I don't know first hand but I have been forced to endure countless old wintel systems at that resolution at 24bit color in the past and I wasn't impressed. I have a few cubes running without dimensions right now. On the cubes I have always been thrilled by the relatively high resolution with which they display. I am not sure of the exact resolution but isn't it in the 1100s X 800s? (since it isnt adjustable I never really bothered to look it up) I guess my question is this: Can you actually fit enough stuff onto a ND monitor to make running one worthwhile? It seems that one decent sized image would fill the whole screen. Do the color NeXT stations have the same resolution limits as the ND or are they the same higher resolution as the mono cubes? I was thinking that their decreased color depth might allow higher resolution but again I have never seen one so ? I wanted to get some old black hardware with color support but I am crestfallen about the NDs (apparent?) shortcomings. Can anyone with experience using the color stations and NDs reply as to how they compare to each other and how they compare to the mono systems in useability for say, desktop publishing? I like to keep a few pages open at once so a big area is important. Any suggestions? Thanks, Heath Tucker #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque@yummyspam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Resolution qurstion Date: 18 Jun 1997 17:51:40 -0700 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 46 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5o9vqs$41p@mpaque.mpaque> References: <01bc7c42$7a82a7c0$03ac2ac0@cupertino> Reply-To: mpaque@yummyspam.wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: volans58.wco.com In article <01bc7c42$7a82a7c0$03ac2ac0@cupertino> "Heath Tucker" writes: > I just read a few posts about NeXT dimensions and their resolution of > 640x480. I have to say that that does not sound very impresive at all. The NeXTdimension display resolution is 1120 by 832, 24 bit color, 68 Hz vertical refresh. The 640 by 480 numbers refer to the NTSC video I/O resolution. Live video could be brought in and displayed in a window with these dimensions. There was not a hardware rescaler, so live video resolution was limited to 640 by 480, or a cropped subset. > Can you actually fit enough stuff onto a ND > monitor to make running one worthwhile? Yes.It has the exact same pixel resolution as the monochrome display, and the NeXTStation Color products, that is, 1120 by 832 pixels. > Can anyone with > experience using the color stations and NDs reply as to how they > compare to each other and how they compare to the mono systems in > useability for say, desktop publishing? I like to keep a few pages > open at once so a big area is important. Any suggestions? Well, we're talking about a 1990 hardware design here built around a 25 or 33 MHz 68040, so don't expect screamingly fast performance. That aside, an ND system works well for desktop publishing, particularly since it can run as a multiheaded system with the monochrome display and one or more NeXTdimension boards and displays. Your workspace can be spread over multiple displays, and windows can be moved between displays, so it's rather Mac-like. I use one at work as my main machine for administrative and writing tasks. -- Mike Paquette (mpaque AT wco.com ; Yank that yummyspam to reply.) Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!128.113.100.15!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 on VirtualPC Date: 19 Jun 1997 00:58:40 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5oa080$jh@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <33A6778D.2C69@interweb.be> <5o7avh$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) wrote: > Martin Laurent wrote: > > I tried to install OpenStep 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody) on > > VirtualPC 1.0b6 but I didn't manage. [etc] > > since they (connectix) list OPENSTEP as a supported system on > their literature, I'd give 'em a call / e-mail. someone there > has it working. the flyer says they provide tech support and > 30-day money back guarantee. It'd be a good idea to buy it first, instead of calling them about installing OpenStep on a beta-version of VirtualPC. The money-back guarantee doesn't mean much until after you have given them some money... :-) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!clunix.cl.msu.edu!blazek From: Rudolf B Blazek Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: ZIP Drive connector Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:17:54 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: clunix.cl.msu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29404 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18028 Thaks to all who replied. I got the necessary cable from Best Buy for $15. The box sais that it is intended to connect a SCSI device to the CPU, but it works the other way as well. Thanks again, and good luck. Rudy. On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > Hi all, > I just bought a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXTstation. I found out that it > has a connector that I have never seen before. It looks like 25 pin serial > or printer connectors [it has both, male and female - for daisy-chaining]. > So I just wanted to ask if that is some kind of standard SCSI connector. > If so, would you know about a cheap source of a gender-bender or a cable? > Or should I rather buy a cable from IOmega ($15)? Is it a reasonable > price? > If it is not a standard SCSI connector, I am going after IOmega, since > the box says 'Mac and SCSI compatible'. Is it at least possible to connect > such a cable to the Mac? > > I know that I might have a serious gap in education in the SCSI cables > area, but the manual says that if you don't wanna use an IOmega > proprietary SCSI board, you would need a gender bender. That raised my > suspicion. > > Thanks for any hints. > > Good luck. > > Rudy > blazek@stt.msu.edu > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!stdio!news.iac.net!clarke.exnext.com!jon From: jon@clarke.exnext.com (Jonathan Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: ZIP Drive connector Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 19 Jun 1997 02:31:21 GMT Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5oa5lp$6d6$2@ocoee.iac.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: clarke.exnext.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29405 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18030 David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : In article , : Rudolf B Blazek wrote: : >Hi all, : > I just bought a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXTstation. I found out that it : >has a connector that I have never seen before. It looks like 25 pin serial : >or printer connectors [it has both, male and female - for daisy-chaining]. : Both??? It should have two male connectors (that's what mine has) unless : Iomega has done something really weird. Any chance it might actually be a Parallel ZIP? -- Jonathan W. Hendry jon@exnext.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!clunix.cl.msu.edu!blazek From: Rudolf B Blazek Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: ZIP Drive connector Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:24:46 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: clunix.cl.msu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29406 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18031 Uhm, sorry for the previous post :-))) Thanks to all who replied. I got the necessary cable from Best Buy for $15. The box says that it is intended to connect a SCSI device to the CPU, but it works the other way as well. Thanks again, and good luck. Rudy. On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > Hi all, > I just bought a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXTstation. I found out that it > has a connector that I have never seen before. It looks like 25 pin serial > or printer connectors [it has both, male and female - for daisy-chaining]. > So I just wanted to ask if that is some kind of standard SCSI connector. > If so, would you know about a cheap source of a gender-bender or a cable? > Or should I rather buy a cable from IOmega ($15)? Is it a reasonable > price? > If it is not a standard SCSI connector, I am going after IOmega, since > the box says 'Mac and SCSI compatible'. Is it at least possible to connect > such a cable to the Mac? > > I know that I might have a serious gap in education in the SCSI cables > area, but the manual says that if you don't wanna use an IOmega > proprietary SCSI board, you would need a gender bender. That raised my > suspicion. > > Thanks for any hints. > > Good luck. > > Rudy > blazek@stt.msu.edu > > > #################################################################### Message-ID: <33A928EC.5A7C@nich-nsunet.nich.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 07:41:16 -0500 From: "Wm. Ted Mahavier" Reply-To: math-wtm@nich-nsunet.nich.edu Organization: Nicholls State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: math-wtm@nich-nsunet.nich.edu Subject: need help repairing a slab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Lines: 18 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!info.uah.edu!maze.dpo.uab.edu!news.cis.uab.edu!news.lsu.edu!nich-ntadmin.nich.edu My machine no longer boots. It was a wonderully faithful machine for 5 years (sigh). 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!clunix.cl.msu.edu!blazek From: Rudolf B Blazek Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: ZIP Drive connector Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:04:30 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <5oa5lp$6d6$2@ocoee.iac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: clunix.cl.msu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Jonathan Hendry In-Reply-To: <5oa5lp$6d6$2@ocoee.iac.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29409 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18034 On 19 Jun 1997, Jonathan Hendry wrote: > David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: > : In article , > : Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > : >Hi all, > : > I just bought a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXTstation. I found out that it > : >has a connector that I have never seen before. It looks like 25 pin serial > : >or printer connectors [it has both, male and female - for daisy-chaining]. > > : Both??? It should have two male connectors (that's what mine has) unless > : Iomega has done something really weird. > > Any chance it might actually be a Parallel ZIP? > > > -- > Jonathan W. Hendry jon@exnext.com > > My mistake. They are both the same gender. Girls. :-))) Rudy. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing a ND board Date: 18 Jun 1997 21:32:25 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5oacop$joa@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Is there any information available regarding how to install a NeXT Dimension extention board in a Cube? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!news From: sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SUN 5 won't find parallelport Date: 19 Jun 1997 07:34:27 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5oane3$sjg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hallo. We have got a problem here with out SUN 5 running NS3.3. During boot it displays a message like "for SUNW,bpp of class IO Parallelport _IOProbeDriver" Any attempts to activate the parallelport for a DeskJet870 fail. The system cannot find the port. Are there any newer drivers for sparc? Has sombody got an idea what to do? Thanx for any help. Sven #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!news.lava.net!usenet From: arti@address.in.signature (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Resolution qurstion Date: 19 Jun 1997 08:05:09 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5oap7l$rno@mochi.lava.net> References: <01bc7c42$7a82a7c0$03ac2ac0@cupertino> NNTP-Posting-Host: ohia024.lava.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Heath Tucker" wrote: > I just read a few posts about NeXT dimensions and their resolution of > 640x480. I have to say that that does not sound very impresive at all. That's probably the video resolution - i.e., TV input displays in a 640 x 480 window at something like 30 frames/sec within the normal 1120 x 832 screen resolution. Both grayscale and color monitors can be run simultaneously extending the workspace to either double width or double height - your choice. ND systems are VERY impressive, especially considering their vintage. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti at lava dot net Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!visi.com!news-out.visi.com!not-for-mail From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing a ND board Date: 19 Jun 1997 08:12:29 GMT Organization: 21st Century Software, New York City Lines: 21 Sender: daver@ts1-9.nj.cnct.com Message-ID: <5oapld$cai$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5oacop$joa@slip.net> Reply-To: dwy@ace.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-9.nj.cnct.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jun 1997 03:12:29 CDT X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5oacop$joa@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Is there any information available regarding how to > install a NeXT Dimension extention board in a Cube? Sure. 1. Open cube. 2. Slide ND board into slot 2. Looking towards the front faceplate, with the open end facing you, slot 2 is the slot immediately left of the power supply / drive cavity. 3. Close cube. 4. Connect color monitor to the large 13W3 port at the back of the ND board. And, optionally: 5. Boot cube. -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net :: :: independant software and network guy ::::: new york, new york :: :: PGP fingerprint :: 89F5 E75D 4749 3FF4 :: ED92 1B6D 9871 9B93 :: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-in.iadfw.net!excalibur.flash.net!d63 From: xar@pbd.net (Kelvin Muthumani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Execption error #2 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 08:33:51 GMT Organization: //// destiny ? //// Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5oaquo$rp3$1@excalibur.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: oasc1-45.flash.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Hi, Got a friend who has a next and when it boots up it gives execption error #2 and an address, can anyone give tell me what is the meaing of this error code. Thanx Kelvin #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!cs.tu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!fdn.fr!r2d2.fdn.org!free.fdn.fr!news From: Fabien_Roy@no.spam.free.fdn.fr (Remove no.spam to reply) Subject: Help: Sound blaster PnP not working any more on 4.2 (prelude) Message-ID: Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 07:57:29 GMT Lines: 24 On 3.3 i had to modify the autodetect ID fir my sound card. The 3.3 kernel reports: Plug and Play support enabled Plug and Play card 0x0e8c0070 : CTL0070 s/n 0xffffffff ^^^^^^^^^^ On 4.2 the kernel reports : Jun 18 21:35:29 p133 mach: PnP: Plug and Play support enabled Jun 18 21:35:29 p133 mach: PnP: Plug and Play BIOS present Jun 18 21:35:29 p133 mach: PnP: read port 0x20b, max csn 1 Jun 18 21:35:29 p133 mach: PnP: csn 1: CTL0070 s/n 0xffffffff May be a bug? -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!cc3441910a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com!luomat From: Timothy J Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: need help repairing a slab Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 09:00:16 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <33A928EC.5A7C@nich-nsunet.nich.edu> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@cc3441910a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com To: "Wm. Ted Mahavier" In-Reply-To: <33A928EC.5A7C@nich-nsunet.nich.edu> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Wm. Ted Mahavier wrote: > My machine no longer boots. It was a wonderully faithful > machine for 5 years (sigh). It gives the error: > Exception #2 and then some address information. Won't boot > off of cd, hard drive, or floppy, so it must be motherboard or > power supply type problem. Or Ram perhaps? Try removing some and seeing if that helps. > I would like to purchase and install the parts myself as I have > done in the past, but don't know how to trouble shoot it. Can > anyone help? I would try: Removing all memory, and reinsert 8megs, then 16 megs, then 24. See if that helps. Trying other 'known to be good' RAM would also be good. Then I'd call DeepspaceTech or Spherical Solutions and see if they had a cheap motherboard you could beg/borrow/buy to see if that works NOTE: I have seen this before with my slab, but it "went away" if power cycled (alt-command-* or power down and right back up). Rebooting is not what I mean. TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing a ND board Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 09:24:53 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <5oacop$joa@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) emclean@slip.net,UseNet writes: >Is there any information available regarding how to >install a NeXT Dimension extention board in a Cube? Don't take this as flippant. I am relative newbie to black hardware and w= as astonished that the following worked this easily... 1-Take off the back of the cube. 2-slide the NextDimension Board into any free slot (mine is immediately a= djacent to the motherboard) 3- put the back back on the computer 4- plug in the color monitor 5-Turn on the machine 6- open preferences.app. There is now a new preference that shows two mon= itors. Adjust as needed. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.cet.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!news.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: need help repairing a slab Date: 19 Jun 1997 14:08:25 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5obegp$aun$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <33A928EC.5A7C@nich-nsunet.nich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: math-wtm@nich-nsunet.nich.edu In <33A928EC.5A7C@nich-nsunet.nich.edu> "Wm. Ted Mahavier" wrote: > My machine no longer boots. It was a wonderully faithful > machine for 5 years (sigh). It gives the error: > Exception #2 and then some address information. Won't boot > off of cd, hard drive, or floppy, so it must be motherboard or > power supply type problem. > > I would like to purchase and install the parts myself as I have > done in the past, but don't know how to trouble shoot it. Can > anyone help? > - Clean the board from dust (beware potential static burnout when using a vaccum cleaner) - Put out the SIMMs and clean the contacts carefully. Plug in again firmly. - Replace the lithium battery on the board. - Startup, set the boot parameters again using the 'p' command. This helps in most cases. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!sun3.hrz.uni-essen.de!spo101!not-for-mail From: phy070@spo101 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Unbootable OpenStep 4.2 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 19 Jun 1997 14:28:00 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5obflg$300@sun3.uni-essen.de> References: <5o8vd1$b21@bioko.ifi.unizh.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: spf101.power.uni-essen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29419 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27185 Will Harris (***RemoveMe***harris@ifi.unizh.ch) wrote: : [...] : Any help appreciated. : It is necessary to adapt the 'hd' (or 'sd' in case of SCSI) entry in /etc/fstab to reflect the actual number of the disk with the root (/) filesystem - in your case i would guess /dev/hd2a where it now reads /dev/hd0a. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!theplanet.net!knews.uk0.vbc.net!vbcnet-gb!news.uk0.vbc.net!news.i-way.co.uk!lan.i-way.co.uk.192.129.194.in-addr.arpa From: "dgrant" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Syquest EZ Date: 19 Jun 97 15:08:03 GMT Organization: Posted via VBCnet GB Ltd Lines: 8 Message-ID: <01bc7cc1$9ab951e0$6fc081c2@Darren.i-way.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: postie.i-way.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 A while ago in this group there was a thread about using a Syquest EZ drive with NEXTSTEP. I have installed a SCSI EZ135 in an intel machine at it opperates as a CD-ROM drive. Does anyone know where to get a driver for this drive? Thanks in advance for any replies Darren Grant #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!posterchild!jbf_see_sig From: jbf_see_sig@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Exeception errors Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:07:27 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <5oaquo$rp3$1@excalibur.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Someone should really discuss these for the FAQ. Exception error 2 is an external bus error, as when a SCSI transfer fails, or an internal access fault, as when the MMU can't find/access a page. Exception error 3 is a bad address. For a type 2 error, disconnect external SCSI devices and see if that helps; if it does, reconnect one at a time. In either case, power down and up. I've never seen a solid type 3 error (fingers crossed). Barney (delete that _see_sig to email me) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!doko From: Matthias Klose Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ThinkPad 760ED drivers? Date: 19 Jun 1997 19:11:28 +0200 Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Lines: 7 Message-ID: <784tauiklb.fsf@cs.tu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.149.19.84 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.40/XEmacs 19.15 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29422 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27188 Since NeXT has a driver for the Thinkpad 760ED display, support for the other devices should available as well; unfortunately I cannot configure the following ports correctly: Sound, Serial, Parallel, InfraRed and the internal modem. Does somebody could email me the correct config files? Many Thanks, Matthias #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!easynet-uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!europa.clark.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.sojourn.com!not-for-mail From: John Goggan Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:09:38 -0400 Organization: Sojourn Systems Ltd. Message-ID: <33A975E2.420A@dcg.com> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <5o4tbs$gtf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5o516o$dn0$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm160-20.dialip.mich.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Lines: 32 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76701 comp.sys.next.hardware:29423 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30741 Scott Anguish wrote: > On 06/16/97, Rick Sanford wrote: > >In <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> iedsp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > >> Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Can't find any. > >> Are they out yet? > >> > >> Please respond via e-mail since I can only POST TO USENET. > >> THANKS! > >> > >> Dave (iedsp@agt.gmeds.com) > > > >gameboy? > > Nope > > Gameboy isn't color. Although they have some funky color > cases now. > > The Sega 'gameboy' was color... but its long dead. Actually, if we're being technical (and hey, I am today... :) Sega's 'gameboy' was the GameGear -- and it isn't really "dead" as this still sell it in stores. They've just got a "better" one now - the "Nomad" which is a handheld that plays all Genesis games. And, aside from that -- the best handheld video game system is the Atari Lynx anyhow. Now, granted, that one is much closer to "dead" than the others mentioned here, but just because you may be dead doesn't mean that you still can't be the best. :) - John (Goggan)... jgoggan@dcg.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!serv.hinet.net!news.nctu.edu.tw!netnews.NCTU.edu.tw!not-for-mail From: u8222015@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Spencer Yu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I use a ZIP drive on my NeXTStaion? Date: 20 Jun 1997 05:10:49 GMT Organization: National Chiao Tung University, Hsinchu, Taiwan Lines: 3 Message-ID: <5od3cp$4ln$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: sun1000.cc.nctu.edu.tw X-Trace: 866783449 4791 u8222015@sun1000.cc.nctu.edu.tw 140.113.4.120 X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA+ANSI+COLOR PL6] Talk to me like I am 3 years old..I am totally clueless...do I need some driver or something, in order to use a SCSI ZIP on my NeXTStaion? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: Joe Freeman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: object station 4100 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:42:51 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33A9FC3B.735B9D03@freemansoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: freemansoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 20 Jun 1997 05:40:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Can an Canon Object Station 4100 be used under Windows 95 or Windows NT? Someone is selling one local at a good price but I don't want to run OPENSTEP on a 486/100. -- FreemanSoft Inc. Consulting on Intranets based on Netscape and/or OPENSTEP technologies in the Washington DC area. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!sculptor.vip.best.com!user From: scott@spamblocker-cacti.org (Scott Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 02:44:16 -0700 Organization: Cacti.org Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: sculptor.vip.best.com > In addition, how does one get a copy of the Rhapsody Developer > Pre-release? I tried to call them and they told me it wasn't available > anymore. And they weren't very nice about it: "We don't take orders > anymore. Period". > > They said that they'd release something new in August, so they told me to > call then. The software you called about was called "Prelude to Rhapsody". It was free to the first couple thousand attendees to the WWDC in San Francisco. This distrubtion was just OpenStep User, Developer and Enterprise in one CD jacket (worth over $10,000 I believe). It also included WebObjects. This is extremely hard to get a hold of unless you know someone at Apple. They simply don't have enough to go around. This distrubution only runs on intel hardware, BTW. The next release will be Rhapsody Developer around August which will essentially be a port of OpenStep to Mac hardware. This should be much easier to obtain, though you still won't find it in any vending machines. ;) After that, Rhapsody Premier release will arrive December/January -- essentially a functional public beta of Rhapsody. The final shrinkwrapped (aka "unified release") is scheduled to be available in mid-98. This version will have MacOS system 7 compatibility (Blue Box). In the meantime, MacOS 8 will be the most significant upgrade to the MacOS since ver. 7 -- out mid July. Enjoy! - Scott :) Scott Stevenson http://www.cacti.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!sculptor.vip.best.com!user From: scott@*cacti.org (Scott Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 03:05:04 -0700 Organization: Cacti.org Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <5o4tbs$gtf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5o516o$dn0$1@news.digifix.com> <33A975E2.420A@dcg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sculptor.vip.best.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76787 comp.sys.next.hardware:29427 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30781 > And, aside from that -- the best handheld video game system is the Atari > Lynx anyhow. Now, granted, that one is much closer to "dead" than the > others mentioned here, but just because you may be dead doesn't mean > that you still can't be the best. :) I love that portable! Up to 16 linked players, awesome color, great hardware. Games were fun as well -- California games, ElectroCop, and the atari classics. It often seems that being good doesn't necessary guarantee financial success... although for me, sucess is purely based on if I like the product or not. It's the marketeers' job to tell me I don't like these things. ;) I know I'm going off the subject a bit, so about a color palmtop. How to build it yourself -- You'll need: * 1 pack of Crayola(tm) Bold Colors Fine Tip Markers * 2 Mead(tm) Assignment Book This configuration is plug-and-pray! :) - Scott -- Scott Stevenson http://www.cacti.org 100% Spam-free -- Please remove the "*" from my email address to respond - Thanks! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!sculptor.vip.best.com!user From: scott@*cacti.org (Scott Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: installation failed Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 03:07:55 -0700 Organization: Cacti.org Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <33A5728A.AAE07C68@clickteam.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sculptor.vip.best.com > I can't install OPENSTEP for Mach 4.2 on my PC. > > After choosing the adaptec 2940 driver for both my cdrom and my disk, I get > the Mach window resetting the computer and I get this failure : > > WARNING : clock lost 58 days... CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! > Load of /etc/mach_init, errno 2, trying /etc/init > Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2 > > ...and nothing more Ah-ha! I just solved this problem with my Prelude to Rhapsody pack. It turns out the installer was looking for the OpenStep User CD (labeled, simply "OpenStep")... not OpenStep developer or Enterprise. I popped in the "OpenStep" CD and life was peachy. Now, if this doesn't help, perhaps it can't find the CD drive? - Scott -- Scott Stevenson http://www.cacti.org 100% Spam-free -- Please remove the "*" from my email address to respond - Thanks! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!sculptor.vip.best.com!user From: scott@*cacti.org (Scott Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Resolution/Bit Depth Question Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 03:17:57 -0700 Organization: Cacti.org Lines: 35 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sculptor.vip.best.com First off, it seems there are a lot of Mac-heads floating around. Remember, we are all guests here. Hopefully, the Next verterans welcome us with open arms. ;) Now, here's my question. I've successfully installed the "Prelude to Rhapsody" release -- essentially OpenStep 4.2 prerelease for Mach -- on my intel pc. However, I seem to be stuck in 640x480 @ 8-bit greyscale (ugh!). I have a DiamondStealth 64 Graphics 2001 card with 2mb of DRAM. I've tried many of the Stealth 64 drivers, some of which actually allow my system to boot. ;) However, not matter what settings I tweak in configure.app, I'm stuck at 640x480, 8-bit grey. I have rebooted several times. And although I'm a huge Mac fan, I'm very familiar with PC hardware and unix in general, so I don't think I'm doing anything especially stupid -- though I'm just about as novice as I could be with Next/OpenStep. Any suggestions from the pros? Please copy me via email if possible. BTW: What is the correct capitalization??: OPENSTEP or OpenStep --and -- NEXTSTEP, NextStep or NeXTStep, etc. Thanks in advance! - Scott -- Scott Stevenson http://www.cacti.org 100% Spam-free -- Please remove the "*" from my email address to respond - Thanks! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Resolution qurstion Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:56:36 GMT References: <01bc7c42$7a82a7c0$03ac2ac0@cupertino> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 13 In article <01bc7c42$7a82a7c0$03ac2ac0@cupertino>, Heath Tucker wrote: > I just read a few posts about NeXT dimensions and their resolution of >640x480. I have to say that that does not sound very impresive at all. That is only the resolution at which they can capture NTSC video (PAL is something different). The display itself is the usual NeXT 1120 x 832. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!199.177.127.11!news.sojourn.com!not-for-mail From: John Goggan Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How do I use a ZIP drive on my NeXTStaion? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 07:23:57 -0400 Organization: Sojourn Systems Ltd. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <33AA684D.2B5@dcg.com> References: <5od3cp$4ln$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm130-15.dialip.mich.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) CC: u8222015@cc.nctu.edu.tw Spencer Yu wrote: > > Talk to me like I am 3 years old..I am totally clueless...do I need > some driver or something, in order to use a SCSI ZIP on my NeXTStaion? Hey little kiddie -- point your browser at: http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html ...and then go to bed. (Ok, so I tried -- deal with it. :) - John (Goggan)... jgoggan@dcg.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed2.telia.com!d2o61.telia.com!NewsWatcher!user From: martin@carlberg.org (Martin Carlberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep 4.2 on a IBM Aptiva? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:13:08 +0200 Organization: DMC Lines: 18 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: d2o61.telia.com Hi! Has anybody been able to install NextStep 4.2 on a IBM Aptiva 2161-462? (or any Aptiva?) The installation was no problem. The problem is the ATI Mach64 Display card inside the Aptiva. It only works in VGA mode. NextStep says "can't find ATI BIOS" ... "no display driver, trying VGA" during boot. Configure.app does find the card and points out the suitable driver. Any suggestions?? Thanks, - Martin Carlberg - DMC #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.urz.tu-dresden.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!sun4nl!sun4nl!axel From: axel@simplex.nl (Axel Roest) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 on VirtualPC Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:54:51 +0200 Organization: AXEL Development & Support Message-ID: <19970620175451454215@ppp46-213.simplex.nl> References: <33A6778D.2C69@interweb.be> <5o7avh$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5oa080$jh@usenet.rpi.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp46-213.simplex.nl X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2 Lines: 19 Garance A Drosehn wrote: > dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) wrote: > > Martin Laurent wrote: > > > I tried to install OpenStep 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody) on > > > VirtualPC 1.0b6 but I didn't manage. [etc] > > > > since they (connectix) list OPENSTEP as a supported system on > > their literature, I'd give 'em a call / e-mail. someone there > > has it working. the flyer says they provide tech support and > > 30-day money back guarantee. I have OPENstep running on the 1.0b6 version of VirtualPC. But I cheated: I didn't have time to install it from CD-ROM, so I just copied the entire OPENStep Virtual PC hard disc file from a colleague. It works, but it's dead slow on a PM 7600... Maybe I should finally get a wintel box??? Axel #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: yhjkm@asdreww.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5oeel2$40c@mtinsc02.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5oeel2$40c@mtinsc02.worldnet.att.net> Date: 20 Jun 1997 17:29:08 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: New Service for your Pager.. X-Original-Date: 20 Jun 1997 17:29:06 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Resolution/Bit Depth Question Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:42:58 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: po9.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 20-Jun-97 Resolution/Bit Depth Question by Scott Stevenson@*cacti.o > First off, it seems there are a lot of Mac-heads floating around. > Remember, we are all guests here. Hopefully, the Next verterans welcome > us with open arms. ;) That's a good way of inspiring people to help you. :-) > Now, here's my question. I've successfully installed the "Prelude to > Rhapsody" release -- essentially OpenStep 4.2 prerelease for Mach -- on my > intel pc. However, I seem to be stuck in 640x480 @ 8-bit greyscale > (ugh!). I have a DiamondStealth 64 Graphics 2001 card with 2mb of DRAM. > I've tried many of the Stealth 64 drivers, some of which actually allow my > system to boot. ;) However, not matter what settings I tweak in > configure.app, I'm stuck at 640x480, 8-bit grey. Sorry, but I'm afraid you lose (at least for the moment). From : "Known Problems Diamond Stealth 64 Series 2001 does not use an S3 controller, it uses the ARK Logic which is not supported." The card you have doesn't use the S3-968 video chip used by all other Stealth-64 cards, which is probably going to cause problems dealing with other OS' as well unless you can get updated drivers for that card. Go look around on NeXT's web site for where you can give feedback and ask about if/when a NEXTSTEP-specific driver for your card might become available. > BTW: What is the correct capitalization??: > > OPENSTEP or OpenStep --and -- NEXTSTEP, NextStep or NeXTStep, etc. OPENSTEP refers to a product made by Apple; OpenStep refers to an API specification which various organizations including Apple, Sun, and the GNUstep project are implementing. As for "NEXTSTEP" et al, _all_ of the capitalizations you've used have been valid at one point or another, but the all-caps version seems to be the correct spelling nowadays (plus, it's easier to type) :-). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.dearborn.agis.net!news.cinnetic.com!ichabod.doubleu.com!ichabod!scott From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel EtherExpress16 performance problems. Date: 19 Jun 1997 22:08:31 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 43 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: doubleu.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:83119 comp.sys.next.hardware:29435 I've been having some TCP and NFS "anomalies" between my Linux/486@150Mhz IPMasq gateway and my internal mostly-NeXTSTEP LAN. Basically, NFS mounts from the Linux box were giving me fits when writing large (>16k or so) files, and sometimes I'd have odd things happen when transfering data via rcp or ftp. In pursuit of a solution, I checked out the Ethernet HOWTO, and then got ttcp. Indeed, ttcp showed the problem well. Between any of my internal machines running NeXTSTEP, I got rates ranging from 680KB/s to 850KB/s, depending on the age of the hardware involved. I got even higher numbers on connections from the Linux box to the other boxes. Sending from my six year old NeXTstation to the Linux box, I got 650KB/s, which is reasonable. But if the transmitter were a SparcStation5 or Pentium133 (w/Intel 10/100 card), I only got 50KB/s to the Linux box! On the advice of the Ethernet HOWTO, I started playing with the window size for the route on the Linux box. If I dropped the window to 1.5k, I got 550MB/s to the Linux box. Watching my hub lights, it's easy to see that with the 1.5KB window, the lights ping back and forth, while with larger windows they burst and then pause. Similar fund happens with NFS. This doesn't seem right. The fact that I can send at high speeds with large windows but not receive does jive with buffer overruns. OTOH, the EtherExpress16 comes with 32KB or 64KB of on-board buffer space (I have 32KB), and the Ethernet HOWTO indicated that most of the problems were cards with 8K or so of buffer space. Furthermore, the window size which works seems suspiciously close to the eth0 MTU of 1500 on the Linux box. Any ideas? The driver I'm using is eexpress.c v1.13, as included with the September/October InfoMagic slackware distribution. [I don't _think_ that this is a NeXTSTEP problem, as I had the same problems when I rebooted one of the systems to Linux, but someone might have an input worth using.] Thanks, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!mws6.biol!rasmus From: rasmus@mws6.biol Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: External HD for NeXTstation, Turbo Date: 20 Jun 97 13:59:23 Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 5 Distribution: fj Message-ID: Reply-To: rasmus@mws6.biol NNTP-Posting-Host: mws6.biol.berkeley.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I am looking for an external harddisk for my NeXTstation, Turbo. I would be very happy if somebody could e-mail me information regarding this matter. Can a Mac or PC external HD be attached to a NeXTstation? What kind of driver software do I need to hook up the HD? Can you recommend any place to order the HD from? Thanks... Rasmus Nielsen (rasmus@mws4.biol.berkeley.edu) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: object station 4100 Date: 20 Jun 1997 22:05:52 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5oeus0$pf3@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <33A9FC3B.735B9D03@freemansoft.com> Reply-To: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) NNTP-Posting-Host: p01.cisco1.precipice.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: joe@freemansoft.com In <33A9FC3B.735B9D03@freemansoft.com> Joe Freeman wrote: > Can an Canon Object Station 4100 be used under Windows 95 or Windows > NT? Someone is selling one local at a good price but I don't want to > run OPENSTEP on a 486/100. > > > it's object.station 41, of course (unless it's a 31 or 51) I've heard people who have questioned its ability to run MS operating systems, so perhaps not. But it runs OPENSTEP fine. Remember it was designed specifically for the task, and performs more like a mid-line pentium than a 486. if the price is _very_ good, and you don't mind OPENSTEP, you might be surprised. check deja news for threads about object.station and Win95. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!clunix.cl.msu.edu!blazek From: Rudolf B Blazek Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: which MAC should I buy to run Rhapsody? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:41:08 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <5nf811$faa$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: clunix.cl.msu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Scott Stevenson In-Reply-To: On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Scott Stevenson wrote: > > The software you called about was called "Prelude to Rhapsody". It was > free to the first couple thousand attendees to the WWDC in San Francisco. > This distrubtion was just OpenStep User, Developer and Enterprise in one > CD jacket (worth over $10,000 I believe). It also included WebObjects. > This is extremely hard to get a hold of unless you know someone at Apple. > They simply don't have enough to go around. This distrubution only runs > on intel hardware, BTW. > I explicitely told them that I din't want this version but the real Rhapsody Developer Prerelease. > The next release will be Rhapsody Developer around August which will > essentially be a port of OpenStep to Mac hardware. This should be much > easier to obtain, though you still won't find it in any vending machines. > ;) Yeah, they told me to call in the first week of August. Thanks for the info that shed some more light on what they meant. Good luck. Rudy. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!sculptor.vip.best.com!user From: scott@*cacti.org (Scott Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recommend Video Card for OPENSTEP? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:34:55 -0700 Organization: Cacti.org Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sculptor.vip.best.com After finding out that my Stealth64 2001 series card is incompatible with OPENSTEP for Mach, I've decided to guy buy another one. What's a good choice for Intel OPENSTEP? Please copy me via email if possible. Thanks in advance, - Scott -- Scott Stevenson http://www.cacti.org 100% Spam-free -- Please remove the "*" from my email address to respond - Thanks! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Installing a ND board Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 01:23:25 GMT References: <5oacop$joa@slip.net> <5oapld$cai$1@darla.visi.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 21 In article <5oapld$cai$1@darla.visi.com>, David Young wrote: > >1. Open cube. >2. Slide ND board into slot 2. Looking towards the front faceplate, with the >open end facing you, slot 2 is the slot immediately left of the power supply >/ drive cavity. >3. Close cube. >4. Connect color monitor to the large 13W3 port at the back of the ND board. > 4a. If you got rid of your monochrome monitor for some reason, replace it with the wedge-shaped Sound Box. >And, optionally: >5. Boot cube. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.space.net!greenie!burrow.muc.de!tm From: Markus Gloede Subject: Re: NeXT ADB Keyboard on a macintosh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7x4taskgej.fsf@burrow.muc.de> To: rifrain@avana.net (Jay Craft) Lines: 23 Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.54/Emacs 19.34 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 23:23:32 GMT >>>>> "JC" == Jay Craft writes: JC> I heard that the NeXT adb keyboard works with the mac adb, JC> and, wanting to have the coolest/oddest looking system around, JC> I was planning to replace my broken keyboard with one. Has JC> anyone tried this? Yes, it works. Although some special characters might appear on different keys, but that can be dealt with by hacking the Mac's keyboards settings (somewhere in the System:System folder there are the keyboard settings - use ResEdit or Resourcerer to change it - mail me if you need more details). JC> I would be quite interested to know if the JC> [...] POWER key worked so i could turn my JC> computer on if I so desired :) Turning the computer on works, yet turning it off (as it is possible since 7.5.3) didn't work in my case (YMMV). Markus "n.s" Gloede -- My From address is a valid addess. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Daniel B." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MegaPixel Display and connecting to a Mac Date: 21 Jun 1997 01:54:55 GMT Organization: WorldNet Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bc7de5$e85e2cc0$8422a8c0@cube154a> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.50.33 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 I'm wanting to connect a 21inch MegaPixel Color Display to a Power Mac. I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find the diagram of the cables or if anyone had ideas on getting that to work Thanks, Daniel #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!wirehead From: wirehead@netcom.com (David J Harr) Subject: Internal 4 GB HD and IDE zip drive Message-ID: Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: The Programmers who say NEE! Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 09:17:31 GMT Lines: 39 Sender: wirehead@netcom.netcom.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27209 comp.sys.next.hardware:29443 OK, I've been trying to get this to work for weeks. What is the magic incantation necessary to partition and use a 4 GB internal SCSI hard disk with and OPENSTEP/Intel system? Everytime I try to use BuildDisk, it calims it is a 61 Mbyte drive and attempts to turn it in to a swap disk. mkfs refuses to allocate more than 800 Mbytes of storage on the disk.How can I get this to work? If I have to split it into two partitions, I'd like to make each of them just under 2GB, and leave about 200 MBytes to use as a swap disk. Any pointers to the right thing to do would be appreciated... Problem, the second...I have an IDE internal zip drive installed in my machine, It would be spiffy if I could actually use it...Ocasionally, if I have a DOS disk in the drive at bootup, the disk will actually mount, but then the WorkSpace Manager thinks it is a fixed device and won't let me eject it.Any idea on how to get the system to recognize this as a removable media drive? Problem, the third. How do I keep the Workspace mamnger from attempting to mount an internal hard disk containing an NTFS partition from my other work. It is very irritating to get the "SCSI drive damaged, ignore, initialize" dialog box every time I sogn on. Is there a way to tell the WorkSpace Manager that a particular device is forever off limits? Problem, the fourth. Is ther a way to keep the damn OS from attempting to start up every SCSI device on the bus? Of course the CD-ROM players and the zip drive may or may not have anything in them. If they do not, the computer keeps waiting for the device to time out, then it tries again. Again, I would like to make it easy to just ignore whether these devices are spun up at startup, and have the OS just drive on, because it knows that a removable drive can be inserted at any time... Well, these are my peeves about MacOS/Rhapsody. We'll see if anyone can help me with them. Thanks... David #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: flickx@mindspring.com (Andre ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: Next Slab 3.5" floppy drive Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 13:15:13 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5ogk3d$bl7@camel4.mindspring.com> Reply-To: flickx@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip177.isdn2-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net X-Server-Date: 21 Jun 1997 13:14:21 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I've got a 3.5" floppy drive that has gone bust and I'd like to purchase one. Can anyone reading this newsgroup offer me this item at a fair price? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!insnet.net!backpost.satin.net!news.IT.net!kit4.swapnet.it!user From: srampazzo@windnet.it (Stefano Rampazzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster32PnP driver ? Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 17:00:40 +0200 Organization: ITnet Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kit4.swapnet.it Lines: 7 Hello, where is possible to find the driver for SoundBlaster 32 PnP ? Thank you Stefano #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Can't boot my NXStation Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5o3jfe$shf$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:08:55 GMT Lines: 34 In article <5o3jfe$shf$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> u8222015@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Spencer Yu) writes: > sorry this is a stupid newbie question: > > I just got a NeXTStation from someone, and I found I can't boot it.. > This machine came with an exnternal SCSI HD (1G, SCSI no =3 set by > its previous owner)...no internal HD I think....I hooked the external > HD to the SCSI port, powered on, and pressed the power key.... > > Everything's ok...ROM Monitor show up and tried to boot with the command > "b sd(0,0,0)"...after about 30min it said "No SCSI disk" and I was > confronted by a command prompt...what should I do now? > From this brief description one can only tell that your SCSI bus seems to be misconfigured. Of course there are many possible reasons. First find out about the status in your slab. There is only one screw in the back to open it... Is the bus configured correctly? All cables connected, all ends terminated, all devices powered and up, the IDs set correctly? Normally the internal disk has ID 1. The drive with the lowest ID is sd0, the next one sd1, and so on. For instance, if you want to make sure the machine boots from the external drive set it to ID 0. At the prompt you could try 'bsd(1,0,0)' to try to boot from a second hard disk. Typing 'Command-~' will drop you into ROM Monitor. Now combine the elements to try things out... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: External HD for NeXTstation, Turbo Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Distribution: fj Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:19:15 GMT Lines: 25 In article rasmus@mws6.biol writes: > I am looking for an external harddisk for my NeXTstation, Turbo. > I would be very happy if somebody could e-mail me information > regarding this matter. Can a Mac or PC external HD be attached > to a NeXTstation? What kind of driver software do I need to hook > up the HD? Can you recommend any place to order the HD from? > General info, possibly not newbie digestible, but there are too many influnece factors to make a mouth feed ;-) Hard drives for black machines need to run in SCSI-I, asynch mode with either 1/2kB or 1kB blocking. Any drives larger than 2GB need either an entry in /etc/disktab or the latest version of the OS since the automatic mechanism will else get an overrun. All this in mind the procedure is terrbily easy. You connect the second disk drive and switch the power on. Then you'll be asked whether you want to initialize a new disk and after answering yes all the rest is automatically done. Only when you want a fixed mount after each reboot you need to create an entry in /etc/fstab. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Printing using LocalTalk port on Black NeXTStation Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:27:43 GMT Lines: 20 In article "Robert G. Jacobs" writes: > I'm wondering if it's possible to print directly from the serial port on > a black NeXTStation to the LocalTalk port on an HP 6MP. The cables are > physically the same, but I don't know if the hardware inside and the > software are too. If someone knows that this will or won't work I'd > appreciate knowing. Thanks. > No way! LocalTalk and serial ports are only plug compatible, all else is different. You can only have a rather slow serial connection using the appropriate cabling or a fast Ethernet connection together with an IP/Ethernet upgrade in the printer. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: How do I use a ZIP drive on my NeXTStaion? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 03:12:27 GMT References: <5od3cp$4ln$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article <5od3cp$4ln$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw>, Spencer Yu wrote: >Talk to me like I am 3 years old..I am totally clueless...do I need >some driver or something, in order to use a SCSI ZIP on my NeXTStaion? > No. You get the right cable (the one that will let you plug it into the blue thing with one end and the black thing with the other) and away you go. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cdc2.cdc.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!news From: christos@cris.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 on VirtualPC Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 15:46:18 -0700 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 26 Message-ID: <33AC59B0.43E4F044@cris.com> References: <33A6778D.2C69@interweb.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts030d05.lap-ca.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: Martin Laurent X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Martin Laurent wrote: > I tried to install OpenStep 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody) on VirtualPC > 1.0b6 > but I didn't manage. It ask me which driver to use for the CD-ROM > drive > but I don't know which to choose. > When I choose "Primary/Secondary(Dual) EIDE and ATAPI Device > Controllers > (v4.01)" (Yes I know, it's not SCSI but it doesn't cost anything to > try) > it recognize the CD-ROM and begin to boot on it but crash after > displaying "Power Management Enabled". I tried some of the others > drivers but the others don't recognize the CD at all. > > Can you help me ? > > Martin Laurent, > Limauges Software =A0 I am experiencing the exact same problem under the same conditions.=A0= Has anyone made proress running the installer? -Chris e installer? -Chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: asdfj@asdjf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ohr13$9gu@usenet84.supernews.com> Control: cancel <5ohr13$9gu@usenet84.supernews.com> Date: 22 Jun 1997 00:01:51 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: Teens Fucking, Sucking, and Cuming teenfsc.jpg X-Original-Date: 22 Jun 1997 00:18:43 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. 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Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NE2000 Ethernet adaptator Date: 22 Jun 1997 01:07:13 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5ohts1$pg8$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: alain_richard@equation.fr In Alain RICHARD wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently testing the OpenStep 4.2 Rhapsody introduction and I am > suprise to see no support for the NE2000 compatible cards (this is the most > common model). Is there any means to use such NIC card or where may I > download the driver ? > Maybe the third party NE2000 V3.0 driver (a NS 3.3 driver) works, see ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT... -- * Frank M. 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Date: 22 Jun 1997 02:00:32 GMT Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5oi100$268i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Reply-To: atl2@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: dial35.cc.lehigh.edu Can it be done? -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: Timothy J. Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recommend Video Card for OPENSTEP? Date: 21 Jun 1997 13:30:21 GMT Organization: Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5ogl1d$4k4$1@bashir.peak.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.208.79 In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 On 06/20/97, Scott Stevenson wrote: > After finding out that my Stealth64 2001 series > card is incompatible >with OPENSTEP for Mach, > I've decided to guy buy another one. What's a > >good choice for Intel OPENSTEP? I have been very happy with my Matrox Millenium. I have heard unconfirmed reports that they somehow improved performace for thos card under 4.2 as opposed to 4.1. If anyone could confirm this, it would be very nice :-) TjL -- -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing." - Dr Robert Cupper, Department of CS, Allegheny College #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!shelob.afs.com!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3108866347221@digifix.com> Date: 22 Jun 1997 03:57:06 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 330 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <10436866952022@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:72567 comp.sys.next.announce:4259 comp.sys.next.hardware:29457 comp.sys.next.software:30065 comp.sys.next.misc:26186 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27216 comp.sys.next.bugs:4386 comp.sys.next.programmer:25048 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk!ironhorse.plsys.co.uk!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster32PnP driver ? Date: 21 Jun 1997 22:02:06 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5ohj0u$s93$1@news.digifix.com> References: X-Mail2News-User: Operator@seer.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: griffin.plsys.co.uk!seer.demon.co.uk In-Reply-To: X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00079 Lines: 27 On 06/21/97, Stefano Rampazzo wrote: >Hello, > >where is possible to find the driver for SoundBlaster 32 PnP ? > > >Thank you >Stefano > I've just gone through this with someone for a SoundBlaster 64AWE I've added the steps to get it working (which should be the same for the 32) on Stepwise in the FactBase at http://www2.stepwise.com/FactBase Scott Anguish http://www.stepwise.com/ -- Scott Anguish NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!camelot.ccs.neu.edu!news.dfci.harvard.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two ethernet cards under OS 4.1? Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 00:36:38 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5oi100$268i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: po7.andrew.cmu.edu X-Added: With Flames (outnews v2.6) Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 22-Jun-97 Two ethernet cards under OS.. by atl2@lehigh.edu > Can it be done? Yes, such a configuration works fine. It's not supported by NeXT, however. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!news From: Yi Zhao Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Laptop Video Drivers Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 22:25:05 -0700 Organization: Netcom Lines: 17 Message-ID: <33ACB731.57E5@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: yzhao@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sjx-ca83-22.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jun 22 12:30:53 AM CDT 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) I have a question about the video drivers for laptop machines. Bifrostworks has a video driver for CHIPS 6555X chip set, by reading the driver's overview it seems that the driver is developed for Tushiba laptops. CHIPS 6555X is a popular video chipset for many laptops (Hitachi, Fujitsu, and some other clones). Has anyone tried it for other CHIPS 6555X laptops? In general, is there any difference on the video driver part for these laptops using the same kind of video chipsets? Thanks. -- Yi ==================================================== Yi Zhao email: yzhao@ix.netcom.com 475 Milan Dr., #122 Tel: (408)526-0433 San Jose, CA 95134 ---------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: rwakeman@thoughtport.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next color printer from Daydream? Date: 22 Jun 1997 13:50:16 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5ojaio$rhe@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p01.cisco1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-10007-01 I've been running Daydream on my cube for a few years now and print to the Next laser printer. I also have a Next color printer attached, but have never been able to print to it via Daydream. Is there a Mac driver for the Canon Next color printer, and Has anyone had any success printing to it from Daydream? Any help would be appreciated. Robert Wakeman rwakeman@thoughtport.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux8.cso.uiuc.edu!kusiak From: derek kusiak Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next Monitor to VGA Cable? Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 07:16:10 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ux8.cso.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: kusiak@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu Hello -- I recently acquired a Next monitor from a friend. I don't own a Next. I'm a borring old PC user. Is this monitor useless as a standard, PC VGA monitor? Or is there an adapter or cable of some sort that lets me plug a Next monitor into a regular PC VGA card? Thanks in adavance. -- Derek Kusiak (kusiak@students.uiuc.edu) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!lrs-news!osn.de!news.technet.net!news.gtn.com!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jasonben@aol.com (jasonben) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5nc9ja$d7n$1019@usenet85.supernews.com> Control: cancel <5nc9ja$d7n$1019@usenet85.supernews.com> Date: 9 Jun 1997 12:41:47 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-5nc9ja$d7n$1019@usenet85.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (younghoon KIL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Connecting Intel PC's soundcard to NeXT's soundbox Date: 22 Jun 1997 15:00:37 GMT Organization: ppai News Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5ojeml$2e$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.126.214.185 X-Newsreader: HNNews 0.95 Hi, I'm wondering if anyone try connecting to NEXTSTEP/Intel PC with NeXT's soundbox? I'd like to connect sound card's mic-input and sound-output connectors at my NEXTSTEP/Intel PC to soundbox. I know, some hacking will need..... Is there any information? Has anyone have described documentation of the connectors on the soundbox(ADB and non ADB)? Any help would be appreciated. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, SGI O2 Q&A and Info board written in Korean) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Rich Grasso Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 12:56:52 +0000 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <33AD2114.3166@earthlink.not> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <5o4tbs$gtf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5o516o$dn0$1@news.digifix.com> <33A975E2.420A@dcg.com> Reply-To: rmg9@earthlink.not NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust24.max53.new-york.ny.ms.uu.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-NSCP (Macintosh; U; 68K) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:76939 comp.sys.next.hardware:29464 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30815 Yeah, the Lynx was a great machine. highly recommended if you can get your hands on one. I have one and wouldn't part with it for anything(well.. maybe some things...) there is also the Sega Nomad, a color handheld that plays Genesis titles. but if you want an actual computer, I think the Toshiba libretto is one of the only ones out there. it has a color screen that is about 5" diagonal and the unit itself is maybe the size of a VHS tape. all the while running a 75mhz Pentium. not sure of the price(or the specs actually) but I do know that I fell in love with it when I saw it at PC Expo the other day. Rich Grasso _ __ __ _ http://home.earthlink.net/~rmg9/ | '__/ _` | rmg9@earthlink.not | | | (_| | |Graphic Design |_| \__, | |Corporate Identity Graphics __/ | |Web Design |___/ to email: replace "not" with "net" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!smartdna!news.io.com!not-for-mail From: ix@xanadu.io.com (Lupo LeBoucher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newer Versions of NeXT on a Cube Date: 23 Jun 1997 00:42:06 GMT Organization: Illuminati Online Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5okgou$g4a$1@nntp-2.io.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xanadu.io.com X-Newsposter: trn 4.0-test56 (2 Mar 97) I'm wondering if there is anything to be gained by upgrading my Cube to something beyond the ancient v2.1 of the OS which is included on the thing? (I got it for free, believe it or not). Also, I noticed some information about an i860 motherboard one could install in the thing. This would be pretty neato for number crunching; does anyone know of a supplier or have any further info on this "nextGeneration" motherboard? -Lupo "In dee wiyuld, wee are primarily carneeevorous" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two ethernet cards under OS 4.1? Date: 22 Jun 1997 12:19:42 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5oj58u$qkn$3@bashir.peak.org> References: <5oi100$268i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) In Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 22-Jun-97 Two ethernet > cards under OS.. by atl2@lehigh.edu > > Can it be done? > > Yes, such a configuration works fine. > It's not supported by NeXT, however. Note that it appears that NetInfo works best if connected to en0 rather than en1. I say appears because that it what it looks like from my experience. I hope to test this today and hopefully have some more details to say if things improve if I move to en0 with my connection between the two NeXTs. TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html *** Starting July 2nd I will be taking Hebrew. Email and Usenet response time will be noticeably slower. *** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!atl-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.fsu.edu!lab.housing.fsu.edu!isaac From: Isaac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External HD for NeXTstation, Turbo Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 02:27:11 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5ojj1d$qkn$5@bashir.peak.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lab.housing.fsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu In-Reply-To: <5ojj1d$qkn$5@bashir.peak.org> On 22 Jun 1997, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > Any SCSI-1 HD that supports asynch should do. > > You'll need a cable to connect to the back of the slab to the SCSI-1 > connector. I think it is called a "Centronics" connection (on the back of > the slab) but someone else will no doubt clarify that.... "Centronics" is actually the big "SCSI-1" connector. The connector on the back of the slab is an HD50 (aka "SCSI-2" or "High Density") connector. HD50 - Centronics cables are a standard item available in most any computer shop. -Isaac #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: Greg Neagle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep 4.2 on a IBM Aptiva? Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 21:07:00 -0700 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (800) 563-3271 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <33ACA4E4.1981@thegrid.net> References: Reply-To: gneagle@thegrid.net NNTP-Posting-Host: s4-96-212.thegrid.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: Martin Carlberg Martin Carlberg wrote: > > Has anybody been able to install NextStep 4.2 on a IBM Aptiva 2161-462? > (or any Aptiva?) > > The installation was no problem. The problem is the ATI Mach64 Display > card inside the Aptiva. It only works in VGA mode. NextStep says "can't > find ATI BIOS" ... "no display driver, trying VGA" during boot. I have OpenStep 4.1 running on an Aptiva S76 (The cool black machine). It also did not like the ATI chip set until I downloaded a newer driver (ATI Rage) from http://www.next.com.NeXTanswers/ OpenStep also doesn't like the MWave sound card, but I'll live with that. #################################################################### From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! 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If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news.dkrz.de!enterprise.desy.de!Radio-MSU.net!Gamma.RU!srcc!newsfeed.sovam.com!sovam!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!mmfcancel!cyberspam!chainsaw Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.beta,comp.os.os2.bugs,comp.os.os2.games,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip,comp.os.os2.programmer.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,comp.sys.acorn.programmer,comp.sys.amstrad.8bit,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.apple2.marketplace,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.hp.mpe,comp.sys.hp48,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.tandy,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <5om47t$cg6@newton.fgg.eur.nl> Subject: cmsg cancel <5om47t$cg6@newton.fgg.eur.nl> no reply ignore Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 15:44:18 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: a X-Orig-Date: 23 Jun 1997 15:20:29 GMT Sender: Ray1996@freemail.nl X-Orig-Subject: Money$$$ Lines: 2 ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!newspost1.alt.net!usenet From: "Lumpy" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.solaris.x86 Subject: Re: PC vendors who know Unix (Linux, Openstep, Solaris, etc.) Date: 23 Jun 1997 14:08:48 GMT Organization: Lumpy against spam Lines: 10 Message-ID: <01bc7fde$98812900$d6898acd@205.138.138.1> References: <5nkr1g$l9t$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <5nlb4d$8k0@news.scruz.net> <5nmdes$hs8@news.win.net> Reply-To: "Lumpy" X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:83244 comp.sys.next.hardware:29470 alt.solaris.x86:2687 Add gray technologies to that list! Gray Technologies timgray@lambdanet.com http:/lambdanet.com/~graytech All systems shipped with Red Hat linux or Slackware 96 Including networking and operation manuals for Linux! #################################################################### From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Microsoft Office 97 costs US$45 ? Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:08:09 GMT Organization: Netvigator Lines: 60 Message-ID: <5om01u$ltd@imsp009a.netvigator.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hhtam008034.netvigator.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news2.hkt.net!news.hkt.net.!imsp009a.netvigator.com!locker Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? CorelDraw 7.0! only costs US$45? Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. 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Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center #################################################################### From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:18:22 GMT Organization: Netvigator Lines: 60 Message-ID: <5om0l4$pps@imsp009a.netvigator.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hhtam008034.netvigator.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!News1.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news2.hkt.net!news.hkt.net.!imsp009a.netvigator.com!locker Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? 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In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!ftpbox.mot.com!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.cc.uic.edu!sunphy1!king From: "B. Alex King III" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What kind of HD for Cube? Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:31:45 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sunphy1.phy.uic.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: king@sunphy1 I have a '040 cube that needs a new hard drive. I understand that there are a few particular specs that a Cube needs in a drive. Anyone know what they are? Thanks. bak "I hate broccoli, and yet, in a certain sense...I am broccoli" -The Tick ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |*******************************|***************************************| |B. Alex King III |University of Illinois at Chicago | |email: aking@uic.edu |Department of Physics | |*******************************|***************************************| ------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eerie.fr!news.univ-aix.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!pasteur.fr!jussieu.fr!news.edf.fr!not-for-mail From: Serge Smadja Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: STB S3 Virge Driver ? Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:01:17 +0200 Organization: EDF - DER/IMA/ICI/ODI Lines: 31 Message-ID: <33AEB9ED.F55EE533@der.edfgdf.fr> Reply-To: serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: cli52my.der.edf.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hi, I repost this message just in case someone could help me. I am trying to configure a Gateway G6 200XL under OpenStep 4.1. Here is my video configuration : Graphic Adapter : STB S3 Virge Velocity 3D 8 Mo I cannot find the right drivers. It seems that the S3 Virge Driver provided by Next does work for Reality 332 (Imagine) and Diamond 3D 2000 (Diamond) but not for the STB card !! Does anyone know how I could get out of this ? Any experience would be helpful ? If people from Apple/Next Software read this, could they tell me when those drivers will be available ? Thanks in advance. -- Serge Smadja EDF - Direction des Etudes et Recherches Ingénieur Chercheur - Département Ingénierie de la Communication en Informatique Groupe Outils de Dialogue pour l'Informatique Tél : +33 (0)1 47 65 31 31 fax : +33 (0)1 47 65 35 23 email : serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5om0bk$rd3@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Control: cancel <5om0bk$rd3@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Date: 23 Jun 1997 16:33:01 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!in2p3.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!unice.fr!news.ceram.fr!cnusc.fr!eerie.fr!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5om0l4$pps@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Control: cancel <5om0l4$pps@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Date: 23 Jun 1997 16:33:07 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise X-Original-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:18:22 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.uni-weimar.de!News.HTWM.De!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!cosy.sbg.ac.at!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!EU.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.sovam.com!sovam!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!stem.com!usenet From: clane@stem.com (Christopher Lane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compaq Hardware Compatibility - Deskpro 6000 Date: 16 Jun 1997 17:10:43 GMT Organization: Systemix, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5o3s2j$k3i@iserver.stem.com> References: <33A1C53C.47D4@m1.mediaone.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: flowmis.stem.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) James Sentman wrote: > MicroAge has recommended a Compaq Deskpro 6000, however in speaking > to NeXT tech support, they can only tell me that theoretically it should > work. ... Is anyone using NeXT 4.1, or any other for that matter, We're running both NS 3.3 and OS 4.1 on Compaq Deskpro 6000's. (I'll be trying 4.2 this week.) You have to ignore the supplied NetFlex card and install a NeXT compatible Ethernet card. (Ditto for sound if you want it.) We used the Intel 100B Ethernet cards with the Pro 10+ driver. This combination works fine for 10MB TCP/IP stuff but we've poor results using the (correct) 100MB or 10MB driver and the Netware stuff doesn't work under 3.3 nor 4.1 (seems to work fine on our other 3.3 and 4.1 Cogent/clone machines.) - Christopher #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.m.shuttle.de!news.b.shuttle.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXT Hardware and Cable Modems Date: 23 Jun 1997 19:29:05 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5omiq1$djj@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sdx-ca12-23.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Jun 23 2:29:05 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29476 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27226 Hello, Cable modems have just been introduced in my area. I'm not much of a sysadmin, so I'm wondering if its possible to run them with a turbo slab. From what I gather, they simply plug into your ethernet port. Is there more to it than that? Anyone using one out there? thanks! -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Mark Trombino | J A M S o f t | | mtrombin@ix.netcom.com | Audio DSP Tools for Openstep & Rhapsody | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5om01u$ltd@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Control: cancel <5om01u$ltd@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Date: 23 Jun 1997 18:33:31 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: Microsoft Office 97 costs US$45 ? Shopping Paradise X-Original-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:08:09 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External HD for NeXTstation, Turbo Date: 22 Jun 1997 16:14:37 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5ojj1d$qkn$5@bashir.peak.org> References: Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: rasmus@mws6.biol In rasmus@mws6.biol wrote: > I am looking for an external harddisk for my > NeXTstation, Turbo. I would be very happy if > somebody could e-mail me information regarding > this matter. Can a Mac or PC external HD be > attached to a NeXTstation? What kind of driver > software do I need to hook up the HD? Can you > recommend any place to order the HD from? Any SCSI-1 HD that supports asynch should do. You'll need a cable to connect to the back of the slab to the SCSI-1 connector. I think it is called a "Centronics" connection (on the back of the slab) but someone else will no doubt clarify that.... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html *** Starting July 2nd I will be taking Hebrew. Email and Usenet response time will be noticeably slower. *** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uunet!not-for-mail From: rwakeman@thoughtport.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next color printer from Daydream Date: 23 Jun 1997 03:21:20 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5okq3g$iru@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p15.cisco1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-10007-01 I have been running Daydream on my cube for several years and have printed to the Next laser printer with no problems. I also have a Next color printer, and wonder if there is a mac driver for it. Has anyone been able to print from Daydream directly (no network) to the Next color printer? If so, any help would be appreciated. Thanks Robert Wakeman rwakeman@thoughtport.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!news1.santaclara.agis.net!agis!newspeer.santaclara.agis.net!agis!nntp.mainstreet.net!news.walltech.com!daver!news.cerf.net!usc!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!not-for-mail From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 on VirtualPC Date: 20 Jun 1997 23:30:25 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5of3qh$jjb$1@cronkite.cygnus.com> References: <33A6778D.2C69@interweb.be> <5o7avh$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5oa080$jh@usenet.rpi.edu> <19970620175451454215@ppp46-213.simplex.nl> Reply-To: jrudd@cygnus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: arcadia.cygnus.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(s) Cc: axel@simplex.nl In <19970620175451454215@ppp46-213.simplex.nl> Axel Roest wrote: > Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > > dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) wrote: > > > Martin Laurent wrote: > > > > I tried to install OpenStep 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody) on > > > > VirtualPC 1.0b6 but I didn't manage. [etc] > > > > > > since they (connectix) list OPENSTEP as a supported system on > > > their literature, I'd give 'em a call / e-mail. someone there > > > has it working. the flyer says they provide tech support and > > > 30-day money back guarantee. > > I have OPENstep running on the 1.0b6 version of VirtualPC. But I > cheated: I didn't have time to install it from CD-ROM, so I just copied > the entire OPENStep Virtual PC hard disc file from a colleague. It > works, but it's dead slow on a PM 7600... Maybe someone could go in to /NextAdmin/Configure.app and get a list of the drivers that Openstep uses on VirtualPC, and post the list? That way we all know what list of drivers and capabilities Virtual PC emulates? > Maybe I should finally get a wintel box??? > eeeew. Many of us with Nextstep/Openstep have been craving a PPC box for years, and you're trying to go the OTHER direction? icky. I'd say just wait til you can run Rhapsody natively :-) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Thought for the day: According to the supreme court, proof of innocence isn't enough to avoid execution if you've exhausted your appeals. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!vienna1-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mozart.jlc.net!usenet From: "Marinara, like the sauce" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT architectures? Date: 24 Jun 1997 02:31:08 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Lines: 5 Message-ID: <01bc8046$4cfac460$7b9fc9c7@aengus.jlc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm3-123.dialup.jlc.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 What system architextures will the NeXTStep os run on? The current version, that is. I wanted to run it on a DEC Alpha. Will it run on x86 too? I got the impression it only uses a unique architexture (Black Box?). Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!not-for-mail From: mahoney@engr.csulb.edu (Mike Mahoney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Paper Jams in NeXT Printer Date: 24 Jun 1997 03:34:25 GMT Organization: Cal State Long Beach Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5onf81$a99@hatathli.csulb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: heart.engr.csulb.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] I have a relatively unused black NeXT printer which worked great till recently. Now paper always gets stuck/jammed just before it's ready to come out and I can't print even a single page. I can't see anything obstructing the path. Any help would be very much appreciated. I still love my black NeXT and want to continue using it. Thanks -mm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: rwakeman@thoughtport.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Daydream to Next color printer Date: 24 Jun 1997 04:27:59 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5onicf$ra9@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p05.cisco1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-10007-01 I have been running Daydream on my cube for several years and have printed to the Next laser printer with no problems. I also have a Next color printer, and wonder if there is a mac driver for it. Has anyone been able to print from Daydream directly (no network) to the Next color printer? If so, any help would be appreciated. Thanks Robert Wakeman rwakeman@thoughtport.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!129.49.12.170!news.cc.sunysb.edu!not-for-mail From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Monitors for Color NeXTs Date: 23 Jun 1997 20:28:07 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5omm8n$fqm$1@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Can anyone recommend a good 17" replacement monitor for use with an old color NeXTStation? I have such a machine whose monitor is rapidly expiring. I also have the nice monitor plug sold by Dancing Bear Inc. (RIP) that allows a color NeXTStation to be used with a non-NeXT color monitor. I simply need a recommendation for a good 17" monitor with BNC leads out the back. Any help would be appreciated. Richard Larson Linguistics Dept. SUNY - Stony Brook #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!not-for-mail From: rwakeman@thoughtport.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Daydream to Next color printer Date: 22 Jun 1997 21:37:58 GMT Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5ok5vm$aas@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p02.cisco1.precipice.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-10007-01 I have been running Daydream on my cube for several years and have printed to the Next laser printer with no problems. I also have a Next color printer, and wonder if there is a mac driver for it. Has anyone been able to print from Daydream directly (no network) to the Next color printer? If so, any help would be appreciated. Thanks Robert Wakeman rwakeman@thoughtport.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!news.asi.fr!alain_richard From: alain_richard@equation.fr (Alain RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NE2000 Ethernet adaptator Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:25:41 +0200 Organization: EQUATION SA Lines: 34 Message-ID: <19970624122541668086@macagr.equation.fr> References: <5ohts1$pg8$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.248.3.6 X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2.1 Frank M. Siegert wrote: > In Alain RICHARD wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am currently testing the OpenStep 4.2 Rhapsody introduction and I am > > suprise to see no support for the NE2000 compatible cards (this is the most > > common model). Is there any means to use such NIC card or where may I > > download the driver ? > > > > Maybe the third party NE2000 V3.0 driver (a NS 3.3 driver) works, see > ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT... > > -- > * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net > * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy Thank you for all people for the support here or by email. The NE2000 driver for 3.3 works fine for me under 4.2. I am just a little bit disapointed with the NextAnswer web site : there is some helpfull informations, but the search facility do not works very well (for example there is a technote speeking about the Adaptec 1510 SCSI adaptator although a search for 1510 do not give any clue). Also I haven't find any informations about the compatibility between 3.3 and 4.2 drivers or about the NE2000 NIC. It would be great if Next improves a little bit its NextAnswer site for the lot of Apple or other developpers who wants to take a look at this technology. -- Alain RICHARD EQUATION SA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!penguin.cso.uiuc.edu!lemson From: lemson@penguin.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXT Hardware and Cable Modems Date: 24 Jun 1997 13:13:13 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5ooh59$7gl$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5omiq1$djj@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: lemson@uiuc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: penguin.cso.uiuc.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29486 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27240 mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) writes: >Hello, >Cable modems have just been introduced in my area. I'm not much of a >sysadmin, so I'm wondering if its possible to run them with a turbo slab. >From what I gather, they simply plug into your ethernet port. Is there more >to it than that? Anyone using one out there? If your provider is Time-Warner and the product is Road-Runner, then you will have a problem. They have a Windows and Mac client that contacts their firewall and lets you through once you have authenticated. Phil Karn of Qualcomm in San Diego reverse-engineered it and ported it to UNIX, so maybe you can find him and get his code. Ask your cable company if you need a PC client to use the cable modem system. If it's just a standard cable modem with no extra security, it should just work with your ethernet port. I'm using my NeXT with a Zenith cable modem - the Zenith is just a bridge. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two ethernet cards under OS 4.1? Date: 24 Jun 1997 14:58:49 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5oonb9$8c9$3@bashir.peak.org> References: <5oi100$268i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: atl2@lehigh.edu In <5oi100$268i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: > Can it be done? yes ps -- my Usenet feed seems to be a little slow.... -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html *** Starting July 2nd I will be taking Hebrew. Email and Usenet response time will be noticeably slower. *** y slower. *** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!News1.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Paper Jams in NeXT Printer Date: 24 Jun 1997 14:56:28 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5oon6s$8c9$1@bashir.peak.org> References: <5onf81$a99@hatathli.csulb.edu> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: mahoney@engr.csulb.edu In <5onf81$a99@hatathli.csulb.edu> Mike Mahoney wrote: > I have a relatively unused black NeXT printer which worked great till > recently. Now paper always gets stuck/jammed just before it's ready to > come out and I can't print even a single page. I can't see anything > obstructing the path. Any help would be very much appreciated. I still > love my black NeXT and want to continue using it. You mean like about 1" left and it gets stuck? If so you have the (in)famous 'Fuser Gear' problem. You can read all about it (including how to replace it when you have a new gear and several spare hours of calm, relaxed time and a table you can set aside for the project. TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html *** Starting July 2nd I will be taking Hebrew. Email and Usenet response time will be noticeably slower. *** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.m.shuttle.de!news.b.shuttle.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!EU.net!news.isnet.is!news.treknet.is!not-for-mail From: Sigthor Hrafnsson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: eide problem Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:10:43 +0100 Organization: Treknet Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33AFF183.46B2@treknet.is> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp3.treknet.is Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 24 Jun 1997 17:12:24 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Hi all I got a pentium pc with 2 x eide 1 gb + cd. I can't get nextstep to mount more than 2 at a time. I can have the 2 ide on primary controller, then the cd dosn't work on the secondary controller. I can have the 1 ide and cd on the primary controller, then the second ide dosn't work on the secondary controller. The secondary controller is not broke, I can see the 2 ide and the cd in windows 95 (I got 2 oses on the same machine). Any ideas? siffi@treknet.is #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: No sync when NeXT Station shut down Date: 19 Jun 1997 17:35:06 GMT Organization: GENIFI Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5obqka$ona$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> When I want to shut down the NeXT Station Turbo Color of my friend, 1) I click on the power button in the loggin window or on the restart button if I want to restart the station, and I get a panel which tell me if I realy want to shut down or restart the computer. After I click on the button and normaly the station should stop after killing all the proccess. 2) I just obtain that all panels disappear and nothing more. To stop completely the station I need to press at the same moment the right Command Key and the upper left keys of the numeric keyboard. After that I obtain a mini panel telling me if I want to Power off the computer or to restart it or stay like that. I have to press the power button or the r and after that to press simultaneously the right Cmd key and the upper left numeric key and press after the r or the power key. Normally the station stop. The problem is that when I want to power on the station it take approximatively 10 minutes to check the Hard drive (and sync it I think) and to restart completely until the loggin window. A) Is it a hardware failure or a part of the OS is broken ? B) What do I do to repair ? C) Is the checking of the HD not good for the HD' life time ? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!204.253.184.11!news.shout.net!not-for-mail From: Brent Clothier Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Monitors for Color NeXTs Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:03:59 -0500 Organization: University of Illinois Lines: 55 Message-ID: <33B0525F.97C8CD2D@uiuc.edu> References: <5omm8n$fqm$1@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> Reply-To: bclothie@uiuc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: wake-215.shout.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) To: "Richard K. Larson" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Richard: If you really want a superb (IMHO) monitor you might try the newly-released Panasonic PF70. In addition to significantly reducing raster distortion and misconvergence, it employs a new technology dubbed "PanaFlat" that provides a perfectly flat screen. As far as I know, no other monitor maker offers pure flat screens. All to some extent have minor curvature at the edges (although this is difficult to see), or as in the case of Trinitron tubes, a shallow cylindrical curvature. The PF70 also has a dot pitch of 0.24 so images will be very crisp. Panasonic has this technology currently available on their 27" and 32" TV's (which is where it was first used) and a number of manufacturers have looked at licensing the technology for use in their tubes (Mitsubishi, Toshiba, etc.). For complete info and specs, go to: http://www.panasonic.com/PCSC/PCPC/fd.html I recently purchased this monitor for use in our research group here at the University of Illinois. Some good price quotes can be obtained from Price Watch: http://www.pricewatch.com/ The quote I got was ~$770. If that is too expensive I also would also recommend the Panasonic S17. I must admit, though, that when it comes to monitors, I lean toward the high-end. A monitor is one of those few computer components that beats the typical obsolescence cycle of peripherals and acts more like an investment. I prefer to pay a little more up front and reap the benefits longer. There is nothing worse than a cheap screen to ruin the wonderful high-resolution desktop of operating systems like NeXTStep/OpenStep. Best of Luck, Brent Richard K. Larson wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good 17" replacement monitor for use with an > old color > NeXTStation? I have such a machine whose monitor is rapidly > expiring. I > also have the nice monitor plug sold by Dancing Bear Inc. (RIP) that > allows > a color NeXTStation to be used with a non-NeXT color monitor. > > I simply need a recommendation for a good 17" monitor with BNC leads > out the > back. Any help would be appreciated. > > Richard Larson > Linguistics Dept. > SUNY - Stony Brook #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!xfer.kren.nm.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.etri.re.kr!usenet From: "Lee, Jaeyoung A." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does Samsung 17GLSi work with NeXTdimension? Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:31:23 +0900 Organization: ETRI Lines: 4 Message-ID: <33B066DB.13862C8F@leej.etri.re.kr> Reply-To: leej@leej.etri.re.kr NNTP-Posting-Host: leej.etri.re.kr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I recently acquired almost brand new 17GLSi and in the process of purchasing NeXTdimension system. Will the 17GLSi work with ND system? Thanx. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!in2p3.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!news.univ-aix.fr!eerie.fr!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!camelot.ccs.neu.edu!news.dfci.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!fas-news.harvard.edu!not-for-mail From: "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: booting Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 20:58:05 -0400 Organization: Harvard University Lines: 7 Message-ID: <33B06D1C.ADCFDD33@fas.harvard.edu> Reply-To: moreau@fas.harvard.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: moreau.student.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I shut off my NextStation, moved it over about two feet and turned it back on. Now it wants to load from the network....which does not exist. What should I do? Jean #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!bitstream.net!not-for-mail From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ZyXEL modems and init strings Date: 25 Jun 1997 02:15:47 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5opv0j$1e6$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Reply-To: cejensen@bitstream.net NNTP-Posting-Host: port310.bitstream.net X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-30007-01 This is only tangentially related to the NeXT world, but since ZyXEL modems are (were?) so popular among NeXT users, I thought I'd ask here first: I use a ZyXEL Omni288s with my cube. I've been very happy with it, but have had great trouble lately connecting to my ISP. One thing I've found to be of great help with USR modems at work has been using just the right init string. I am wondering if anyone out there has a recommendation regarding init strings and ZyXELS, or Omni288s's in particular. My current chat.script looks like: ABORT ERROR ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" TIMEOUT 80 "" "ATZ" OK "ATD3210363" CONNECT "" sername: "cejensen" assword: "[censored]" nnex-1 "ppp" So you can see the init string is a trifle... generic. Suggestions welcome, or recommendations about other meetings, websites, etc. that might be helpful. Many thanks! --Chris -- ******************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, NeXTMail OK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!spool.mu.edu!newsspool.sol.net!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!not-for-mail From: Jennifer Cross Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:20:13 +0900 Organization: University of Western Australia Lines: 37 Message-ID: <33B1C3CD.167E@ecel.uwa.edu.au> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: fils.af.ecel.uwa.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) CC: iedsp@agt.gmeds.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:77139 comp.sys.next.hardware:29496 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30882 iedsp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > > Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Can't find any. > Are they out yet? > > Please respond via e-mail since I can only POST TO USENET. > THANKS! > > Dave (iedsp@agt.gmeds.com) sure is!!! I saw and played with one yesterday! about the size of the old HP200lx but with 16mb ram, colour lcd screen, pent75 processor,770mb hd (yes it was running win95) the mini dock had an external monitor out (and could do 800x600x16) there was a trackpoint builtin to the side of thge screen the box is a toshiba libretto 50ct and yes.. it is that small! was amazing to play with! more info from http://www.toshiba.com/tais/csd/products/portable/libretto/overview/main.htm Anyway, yes, the game gears and stuff are neat, but in terms of what the original poster was asking... definatly YES! oh.. they are about $2,650 australian dollars ex tax yours down under -- ___ ( > /) (voice) +61 8 9362 6680 __/_/> ____ ____ o // _ __ (home) cjcross@dialix.com.au / / (__/ / <_/ / <_<_//__ (work) jcross@ecel.uwa.edu.au I'm considering getting a Pentium machine for use with OpenSTEP 4.0 (which I already have) and eventually Rhapsody. I already have a PowerMac 7100 so I figured a Intel box would complement my current setup better than another Mac (though I am keeping my mind open in this regard). I would like to know what I need to consider to get OpenSTEP to run on this machine: Dell Dimension XPS H266 - 24X Variable EIDE CD-ROM drive - Yamaha 32 Wave Table Sound - Matrox Millenium 4 MB WRAM Video Card Thoughts? -- ibhan@macconnect.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.sprintmail.com!nntp.sprintmail.com!news@sprintmail.com From: "Chas. Cooper" Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware Subject: Links to Computer Hardware Magazines on WWW Date: 25 Jun 1997 03:33:38 GMT Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bc8118$793bed60$499b85ce@coopech.eyc_reh.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ts-058txfworp06.dialsprint.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware:27169 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:77159 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:29075 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:21504 comp.sys.next.hardware:29498 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:30888 comp.sys.sun.hardware:48923 misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware:29966 Check out http://www.alexandria-home.com/library/directory/computerhardware.htm for links to magazines about computer hardware freely available on the Web. Example magazines include: PC Laptop Electronic Engineering Times Portability! Electronic Buyers' News Chips Hope you find some of these links of interest to you. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!bcm.tmc.edu!news.eng.convex.com!schwartz From: schwartz@rsn.hp.com (Adam E. Schwartz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB scintr program error on boot--no network Date: 25 Jun 1997 07:15:14 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard - Convex Division, Richardson, TX USA Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5oqgi2$d94$1@news.rsn.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: razmataz.rsn.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] hi, Has anyone encountered the following error sc: scintr program error upon booting a Station or Cube? I'm booting a Black ADB station and get the above error, and am getting poor (50% packet loss) or no network. Most oten the problem is there's no physical connection to the network (even with good cable and interface to the network hub etc.). It's running 3.2. I am nearly certain it's either a hardware error or a mon configuration error (that is, perhaps something to do with configuring the mon parameter settings or somesuch thing). But have no ideas, other than hardware probs. Have checked the the Next sysadmin book and the FAQ and others, but no luck. Anyone run across / know this error (sc: scintr program error). thanks a lot, --Adam -- ----- Adam Schwartz, schwartz@rsn.hp.com # # # #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nextjoe@aol.com (NeXTJoe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB scintr program error on boot--no network Date: 25 Jun 1997 12:39:55 GMT Lines: 7 Message-ID: <19970625123900.IAA09344@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5oqgi2$d94$1@news.rsn.hp.com> I have this same error on my station.... I posted a question about this some time ago, and got no answer. I don't know about the ethernet on my station because it is a standalone box. Joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.dearborn.agis.net!news.cinnetic.com!ichabod.doubleu.com!ichabod!scott From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress16 performance problems. Date: 25 Jun 1997 13:00:28 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: doubleu.com In-reply-to: scott@doubleu.com's message of 19 Jun 97 17:42:27 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:83446 comp.sys.next.hardware:29501 comp.os.linux.networking:87024 The article I'm responding to wasn't posted on col.networking the first time, sorry about that. In article , scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: [Wherein I describe how I was seeing very low ttcp throughput (50Kbyte/s) from a variety of boxes _to_ a 486/150 running Linux with an EtherExpress16, except for from a NeXTstation, which got 600+Kbyte/s. Throughput _from_ the Linux box was always reasonable. Setting the receive window size to a mere 1.5k pushed throughput from all machines to the Linux box up to 500Kbyte/s.] Well, I still don't know what the problem is, but I do know more. I put an NE2000 ISA card in the Linux box, and now it's able to send/receive at high rates from any box on my network. Worse, I put the EtherExpress16 in a Pentium box running NeXTSTEP3.3, and it's able to receive at well in excess of 500KByte/s. Since the EtherExpress16 has a 32kbyte buffer, it would seem to not be a buffer problem. It may be that I had the card setup wrong (IO-mapped versus mem-mapped?), but I can't tell from the driver documentation and output whether that's the case. In any case, I trust NeXT's EtherExpress16 driver more than the generic NE2000 driver, and now I trust the Linux NE2000 driver more than the eexpress driver, so ... I think I'll just leave the NE2000 card in the Linux box and count my blessings. Thanks, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!not-for-mail From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress16 performance problems. Date: 25 Jun 1997 19:21:41 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5orr45$sen$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: celegans.sns.cs.ubc.ca In article scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: [woes about Intel EtherExpress16 driver for Linux] I don't know about Linux, but under FreeBSD, the Intel EtherExpress16 driver is flaky. Since FreeBSD tends to borrow a whole lot from Linux, I wouldn't be surprised if it was based on the Linux driver, and since it is an old card, the driver never was fixed. (In fact, it looks like it's been dropped from the latest release). I swapped my EtherExpress16 for an SMC on my dual-boot NEXTSTEP/FreeBSD box, and haven't had any problems since. Keep your EtherExpress16, tho. It's the only cheap 16-bit card I've found for which NEXTSTEP supports remote kernel debugging. -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!namib.north.de!uniol!news From: "Joerg Spix" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newer Versions of NeXT on a Cube Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 00:52:59 +0200 Organization: C. v. Ossietzky Universitaet Oldenburg - Fachbereich Informatik Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5os7hp$l6v@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> References: <5okgou$g4a$1@nntp-2.io.com> <5olam0$pv2$3@darla.visi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-2.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2b3 David Young wrote: > In <5okgou$g4a$1@nntp-2.io.com> Lupo LeBoucher wrote: > > Also, I noticed some information about an i860 motherboard one could > > install in the thing. This would be pretty neato for number crunching; > > does anyone know of a supplier or have any further info on this > > "nextGeneration" motherboard? > > It's not a motherboard, it's a dedicated graphics coprocessor called the > NeXTdimension. > More info at http://www.vamp.org/NeXT/. Enjoy. There is also a double I860 board for realtime soundprocessing made by Ariel, but it's damn expensiv (about $15,000) and only works with the specialized music application. There is also a library with standard unix routines, but as I know they do not work reliable or the documentation may be wrong. The board was specially designed for the realtime music application. The board is called the IRCAM signal processing workstation (ISPW) for NeXT. Joerg -- (Joerg.Spix@informatik.uni-oldenburg.de) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB scintr program error on boot--no network Date: 25 Jun 1997 23:52:50 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 89 Message-ID: <5osb0i$l6i$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5oqgi2$d94$1@news.rsn.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: schwartz@rsn.hp.com In <5oqgi2$d94$1@news.rsn.hp.com> Adam E. Schwartz wrote: > hi, > > Has anyone encountered the following error > > sc: scintr program error > Yep. I've seen it before. Usually associated with either dying, or improperly configured, new drives > upon booting a Station or Cube? Either. Most often with a new improperly jumpered drive on first install attempt. > I'm booting a Black ADB station and get the above error, > and am getting poor (50% packet loss) or no network. You need to be more specific here. Does the system actually boot? Or leave you at the PROM level w/ the sc: error If it boots do you see sc: errors while it boots? :( :| What is full system config SCSI wise.. Here is a relative example: I just checked a recently acquired(David?!) 040 motherboard and for some reason it just can't receive packets on the B10T, on the B2T I get absolutely nothing. And I'm not talking about 50% packet loss. It's 100%. I can see my router being hit and the packets going out my gateway into the ethers from the afflicted box/board.. I know the Netinfo setup is correct but I suspect the motherboard is just flaky. Seems to work fine otherwise though (Yet I havn't tried any of the other ports!) and it's not worth my time now to track what is going on at the packet level with a sniffer.. (Snif.) > Most oten the problem is there's no physical connection > to the network (even with good cable and interface to the > network hub etc.). This was exactly my case. Cable was good, rest of network fine, router fine, etc. Just my one box didn't work. And yes I checked the cable/25Mhz by dropping a 33Mhz board in the cube and trying it that way ;) So I know something is screwy on the MB.. Could be a similiar thing on yours.. I have also been tempted to try a different ROM/battery just to make sure.. > It's running 3.2. 3.3 Here. > I am nearly certain it's either a hardware error or a mon > configuration error (that is, perhaps something to do with > configuring the mon parameter settings or somesuch thing). Not sure what you mean here... What were you doing with mon?. > But have no ideas, other than hardware probs. Have checked the > the Next sysadmin book and the FAQ and others, but no luck. What I don't understand is why you think the sc: scintr program error would be related to the ethernet problem. Also I don't know how you'd notice the ethernet problem w/o the system being booted. Are you seeing these sc: scintr program errors on the console AFTER the machines has booted. If so I'm not sure I've ever seen a machine doing that. If so I know I'd immediately start going through the SCSI routine.. Check cabling, termination, ID's, drive jumpers, cases, physical device order on SCSI chain, swapping devices in/out of chain etc. > Anyone run across / know this error (sc: scintr program error). I don't know the details of the error only my experience. And that is that it is related to scsi. > thanks a lot, > --Adam Good luck - a lot, Randy rencsok at channelu dot com spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gateway.cam-ani.co.uk!news.cam-ani.co.uk!news From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Printing using LocalTalk port on Black NeXTStation Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:07:19 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.cam-ani.co.uk [193.195.55.1] Lines: 19 In article Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > In article > "Robert G. Jacobs" writes: > > I'm wondering if it's possible to print directly from the serial port on > > a black NeXTStation to the LocalTalk port on an HP 6MP. > > No way! LocalTalk and serial ports are only plug compatible, > all else is different. > You can only have a rather slow serial connection using the appropriate > cabling or a fast Ethernet connection It's not possible on Black hardware, but I've just completed a BSD driver for the old apple ISA localtalk cards. Porting it to NeXTStep should be quite do-able if any one wants to try it (or if anyone wants to lend me a NeXTStep capable PC I'll do it myself). $an #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!uwm.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: No sync when NeXT Station shut down Date: 26 Jun 1997 00:11:56 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 69 Message-ID: <5osc4c$l6i$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5obqka$ona$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ascended.channelu.com X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Cc: 100321.1674@CompuServe.COM In <5obqka$ona$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Yves Pons wrote: > When I want to shut down the NeXT Station Turbo Color of my > friend, > 1) > I click on the power button in the loggin window or on the > restart button if I want to restart the station, and I get a > panel which tell me if I realy want to shut down or restart the > computer. After I click on the button and normaly the station > should stop after killing all the proccess. Yes on most systems this should just work! ;) > 2) I just obtain that all panels disappear and nothing more. How long have you waited (2minutes should be more than sufficient) > To stop completely the station I need to press at the same moment > the right Command Key and the upper left keys of the numeric > keyboard. Command(Right) - ~ basically will try to execute the right thing to take you to the ROM monitor. But it simply asks restart, power down, cancel.. > After that I obtain a mini panel telling me if I want to Power > off the computer or to restart it or stay like that. > I have to press the power button or the r and after that to press > simultaneously the right Cmd key and the upper left numeric key > and press after the r or the power key. > Normally the station stop. Look if you tell the computer to restart it should kill all processes and indeed reboot. You arn't clear on whether this actually works. Power off at certian points simply does a final real power off regardless whether the machine gracefully unmounted root as it went down. > The problem is that when I want to power on the station it take > approximatively 10 minutes to check the Hard drive (and sync it I > think) and to restart completely until the loggin window. Yes of course. Requiring two reboots, and one fsck. > A) Is it a hardware failure or a part of the OS is broken ? > B) What do I do to repair ? > C) Is the checking of the HD not good for the HD' life time ? > I'm not sure what is going on. It could be the battery on your MB. Something on your MB. Software problem. Other problem.. Please describe config on your system.. I would hazard that IF your having some trouble to get the machine to actually power off unattended but you can get it to reset/reboot unattended that you should be able to do a reset, and when the machine finally begins to reboot you do another Command-~ to get it into the ROM monitor (do this quickly after the Testing System panel is replaced). THEN hit power down button. You should be prompted with a Really power off? question. Say "Y" and your system should shutdown. If all this works as I stated the system should come back up clean and not have to fsck the disk. At least this will buy you some time till you can diagnose/fix the problem.. (Try a new MB battery ;) Randy rencsok (at here) channelu (dot buddy) com - replace parend by dots '.' spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nextjoe@aol.com (NeXTJoe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB scintr program error on boot--no network Date: 26 Jun 1997 00:49:01 GMT Lines: 11 Message-ID: <19970626004900.UAA14893@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5osb0i$l6i$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> my station still has an ancient 105 mb internal boot disk, so it could concievably be dying. I've never had any trouble with it other than the "scintr program error" message, though. this message occasionally comes up once or twice during some bootups, both hot and cold starts. The machine finishes booting and runs perfectly, so my guess would be that the drive may be slow to spin up. any black hardware experts have any advice/info?? joe #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!129.240.148.41!nntp.uio.no!news.kth.se!news.datakom.su.se!not-for-mail From: Harald Ellmann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Colour printer problems Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:12:59 +0100 Organization: Stockholm Univerity Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <33B2248B.11EB@msi.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.237.217.189 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02APPLE (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hello, I have some trouble with my NeXT Colour printer. Yesterday I left the computer for about four hours with some documents still in the printer queue. When I returned all the documents were printed, but the orange alarm light was on and in the display I could read: 72 SERVICE I tried several buttons but nothing happened. I powered the printer off and on again, but nothing happens except for both lamps (ON LINE and ALARM) being light. No mesage in the display. What can I do? Any help is greatly appreciated since I have to print my thesis onm this printer and i have to do it SOON. Thank you. Harald #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!news2.euro.net!server1.adam.ixe.net!wiwo.nl!awt-nl!news From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: NeXT architectures? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: next.awt.nl Message-ID: Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) References: <01bc8046$4cfac460$7b9fc9c7@aengus.jlc.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:01:42 GMT Lines: 72 "Marinara, like the sauce" wrote: >What system architextures will the NeXTStep os run on? The current >version, that is. I wanted to run it on a DEC Alpha. Will it run on x86 >too? I got the impression it only uses a unique architexture (Black Box?). The name OPENSTEP is used confusingly by Apple (and formerly NeXT, actually, Apple uses the name Rhapsody now for most of what follows.) There is a defined standard called OpenStep, that's an API defined by NeXT and SUN, based on NEXTSTEP by NeXT. There are OpenStep implementations for Solaris, Windows NT and MachOS. MachOS is the 'underlying' OS from NeXT. So we have currently: OPENSTEP/Solaris (only for Solaris(sparc) afaik) OPENSTEP/NT (only for PC(i486)) OPENSTEP/MachOS (for SUN(sparc), NeXT(m68k) and PC(i486)) OPENSTEP/MachOS is more or less what used to be called NEXTSTEP. At that time it also ran on HP workstations (hppa architecture). OPENSTEP/MachOS also comes with applications, like Edit.app, Mail.app, etc. and the Workspace manager. The other two are just the API-layer. OPENSTEP/MachOS is the starting point for Rhapsody, the new Apple OS. Apple will add the PPC architecture (mac hardware) to the compatibility list. They will however probably drop sparc. It will, however not be very difficult for them to add sparc and/or hppa in a later stadium, as most of the work has been done already. When you restrict yourself to the OpenStep API, a program can be developed once and compiled for OPENSTEP/Solaris, OPENSTEP/NT and OPENSTEP/MachOS. When you also use the MachOS API, you can compile once and deploy on all systems running OPENSTEP/MachOS, regardless of the underlying hardware. This is called MAB (Multiple Architecture Binaries) or 'fat' binaries. There is no emulation or so involved, it is just that the binaries for all systems can be produced on all systems and they are packed together and unpacked by the kernel when a program is run. This is why many submitted software packages have something like NIHS in their name, it stands for NeXT-Intel-HPPA-SPARC, all the architectures NEXTSTEP 3.3 ran on. NEXTSTEP 3.3 was the latest pre-OpenStep release with hardware support for 4 architectures. Many people still run NEXTSTEP 3.3, especially on older (read: NeXT) or orphaned (read: HPPA) hardware. If you want to experience OpenStep, the best way is probably to take a Pentium PC following the supported specs and install the 'prerelease to Rhapsody' or OPENSTEP 4.2. You can also buy a second hand NeXT machine (they are cheap) and run NEXTSTEP 3.3 or OPENSTEP 4.2. Current release is OPENSTEP 4.2, available as OPENSTEP/MachOS 4.2 for i486 PC, m68k NeXT hardware (still going string after all those years) and SUN sparc (afaik). Also available as OPENSTEP 4.2 for i486 PC running Windows NT and SUN workstations running Solaris (afaik). Still being sold is NEXTSTEP 3.3, available for i486 PC, m68k NeXT, hppa HP workstations and sparc SUN workstations. For both environments there is a developer environment which may be the best around, but it is also expensive. Go to http://www.next.com/ for details, whitepapers and such. -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One fool can state more than a thousand wise men can question." #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!news2.euro.net!server1.adam.ixe.net!wiwo.nl!awt-nl!news From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: No sync when NeXT Station shut down X-Nntp-Posting-Host: next.awt.nl Message-ID: Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) References: <5obqka$ona$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:11:01 GMT Lines: 65 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29510 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27270 [crossposted to csn.sysadmin because that is where it belongs] This is probably a software problem. This may happen when you start processes that end up in the same process group as the loginwindow program (which is responsible for the login panel and shutdown). When the loginwindow program starts killing all processes, one of the processes in turn makes that the loginwindow program is killed (because of it being in the same group). This happens before the loginwindow program can finish the shutdown procedure. The system is left with some process running, under which the WindowServer. I have had this behaviour when I started a cern httpd daemon from /etc/rc.local, by combination with backgroun (&) and shell script or something like that. I posted the solution to this problem a while ago. Normally, running the NMI panel and hitting 'r' will cleanly reboot the system (no fsck's needed). If you have a fsck on every reboot, the culprit might be a program you are running. Samba is one that has this property. This may not have anything to do with the reason why you get the unsynced disk. To be sure, have a look at the file /etc/rc.local and tell me what is started there. Or, before shutting down, run the command 'ps axww' in a shell window and send me the output. This IMO is not likely to be a hardware problem. Yours, Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >When I want to shut down the NeXT Station Turbo Color of my >friend, >1) >I click on the power button in the loggin window or on the >restart button if I want to restart the station, and I get a >panel which tell me if I realy want to shut down or restart the >computer. After I click on the button and normaly the station >should stop after killing all the proccess. >2) I just obtain that all panels disappear and nothing more. >To stop completely the station I need to press at the same moment >the right Command Key and the upper left keys of the numeric >keyboard. >After that I obtain a mini panel telling me if I want to Power >off the computer or to restart it or stay like that. >I have to press the power button or the r and after that to press >simultaneously the right Cmd key and the upper left numeric key >and press after the r or the power key. >Normally the station stop. >The problem is that when I want to power on the station it take >approximatively 10 minutes to check the Hard drive (and sync it I >think) and to restart completely until the loggin window. > >A) Is it a hardware failure or a part of the OS is broken ? >B) What do I do to repair ? >C) Is the checking of the HD not good for the HD' life time ? -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One fool can state more than a thousand wise men can question." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!oleane!tintin.ina.fr!not-for-mail From: Laurent Vinet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,fr.comp.sys.next Subject: OpenStep4.2 on PC Asustek/T2P4, Cyrix 166, MatroxMystique ? Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:03:31 +0200 Organization: INA - France Lines: 44 Message-ID: <33AE3BE3.41C6@ina.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.2.37.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29511 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27271 fr.comp.sys.next:1730 We are trying to install Prelude to Rhapsody on a PC: - Asustek/T2P4 (mother board), Cyrix 166(CPU) - Matrox Mystique as video card - Dual IDE Primary/Secondary - IDE Disk - IDE CD ROM (GoldStar) - US Robotics Modem (intern) with a lot of pb: 1: The first step of installation (Boot on disk and copy of the system) does not work in French but it's ok in English (default language). Some files does not exists ?? 2: Now i trying second step of installation after reboot. So i need to choose my hardware drivers. It's ok and then i have to finish the installation by installing "OpenStep Essential (78Mo) and some other applications. But It always failed after two or three files (???). All I can do it's reset my computer. The only solution that i found it's to do the first step, then to boot in single user, to remove the CDRom in the fstab file, then reboot. So the "OpenStep Essential 78Mo" is skipped by this way and i finished the installation by copying all files that i guess to be on the hard drive!!! Unbeleivable but it seems to works!!!! 3: Now i don't found any driver for my video card MatroxMystique(2Mo). In 640x480 it's impossible to work correctly. So if someone have a cool driver, can you send it to me. 4: I need also a driver for my modem but if i don't have it doesn't matter to much, all i want it's to work with OpenStep 4.2 correctly. Any idea ? Thank you -- Laurent VINET INA Phone (33) 01.49.83.22.63 4 avenue de l'Europe Fax (33) 01.49.83.25.82 94366 Bry sur Marne Cedex Mailto:vinet@ina.fr France http://www.ina.fr/People/Laurent.VINET/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ins.net!piro.net!not-for-mail From: "Gerd Sender" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Prelude Installation cannot find Quantum Drive LPS340S Date: 26 Jun 1997 16:43:44 GMT Organization: PIRONET GmbH Lines: 12 Message-ID: <01bc823f$5a7ec820$016fa8c0@penni-nt> NNTP-Posting-Host: surfu121.koeln.netsurf.de X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Hi! I have a problem to install "Prelude to Rhapsody": The installation program starts from CD and resets the SCSI bus. My CD-ROM and Fireball HD appear, but not the Quantum LPS340S, which I´d like to use as destination. Is the any restriction about the SCSI drive I have to use with Nextstep?? Thanx. Gerd Sender #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!not-for-mail From: Christian Neuss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Prelude Installation cannot find Quantum Drive LPS340S Date: 26 Jun 1997 16:33:10 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5ou5k6$7vp$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <01bc823f$5a7ec820$016fa8c0@penni-nt> Reply-To: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Gerd Sender" wrote: >I have a problem to install "Prelude to Rhapsody": > >The installation program starts from CD and resets the SCSI bus. My CD-ROM >and Fireball HD appear, but not the Quantum LPS340S, which I´d like to use >as destination. Is the any restriction about the SCSI drive I have to use >with Nextstep?? Depends what hardware you are talking about.. there are a few harddisks that don't work with black hardware because they don't implement SCSI properly :-) But I'm assuming you are talking about Intel hardware. One requirement for a bootable disk is having a sector size of 512 byte. If, however, the disk is not even "seen" at boot time, it's more likely a problem with the SCSI chain, e.g. termination, cable quality or length, termpower, etc. Does you SCSI adapter recognise the disk? Normally, you can enter an adapter diagnosis mode by hitting escape or some other hotkey during the boot sequence. Rgds, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!mmfcancel!cyberspam!chainsaw Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.newton.marketplace,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <33B29E6A.84C41518@sprintmail.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <33B29E6A.84C41518@sprintmail.com> no reply ignore Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:00:29 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: a X-Orig-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:52:59 -0700 Sender: Tamara X-Orig-Subject: NEED SOME CASH? 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Porter Clark. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!news.amrcorp.com!news-admin@sabre.com From: Eric Smalling Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: System Commander and Netware woes with OS4.1 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:02:24 -0500 Organization: The SABRE Group Lines: 66 Message-ID: <33B29290.8C63D67F@amrcorp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.28.14.175 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EAD4F29FC793C21AD6502536" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29514 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27274 comp.sys.next.misc:26238 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EAD4F29FC793C21AD6502536 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to install OS4.1 for Mach on Intel and, thank God had no problems with my EIDE HD/CDROMs! My two problems are: 1. It seems that System Commander's (a multiple OS loader) boot block on my HD is causing OPENSTEP to not recognize my DOS partition. When I have the NeXT installed boot block everything is peachy keen, OS mounts the DOS partition automatically, but with System Commander installed the DOS partition will not mount. (I entered "-v" at the BOOT: prompt and there is some kind of error that flies by when it is, apparently, trying to mount the DOS partition.) I have one HD, an EIDE 2GB with 3 partitions: 700MB as DOS (FAT16), 300MB for UNIX/OpenStep, 1GB NTFS (WinNT) and I need system commander to choose between the 3 OS's. 2. I have TCP/IP connectivity but, here at work, we have many Novel NetWare 3.x and 2.x file servers I need to be able to see. The doc's say to just go to the NextAdmin folder and run the NetWare Manager --- well, it's not there! I checked NeXTAnswers and, in the 4.1 release notes it says that NetWare support is not included in 4.1. Is the NetWare client software available anywhere like it is for Win95/NT/3.1? (I didn't see it on Novell's wed site). Any help would be greatly appreciated! -es -- ____________________________________________________________________ Eric A. Smalling Ft Worth, Texas USA --=== ------=== The Any views expressed are mine alone and are in no ----------- SABRE way the views of AMR or any of it's subsidiaries. ------=== Group --=== email:Eric_Smalling@amrcorp.com Corp Web Site: http://www.sabre.com ____________________________________________________________________ --------------EAD4F29FC793C21AD6502536 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Eric Smalling Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Eric Smalling n: Smalling;Eric org: The SABRE Group email;internet: Eric_Smalling@amrcorp.com title: Programmer Associate x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE end: vcard --------------EAD4F29FC793C21AD6502536-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!rzunews.unizh.ch!orc.studi.unizh.ch!swagner From: swagner@studi1.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: b/w megaPixel alignement? Date: 26 Jun 1997 17:58:46 GMT Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5ouakm$gki@rzunews.unizh.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: orc.studi.unizh.ch X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] my newly bought MegaPixel display, b/w, has an annoying feature... in the top left corner, the borders are curved.. just there, and it has nothing to do with surrounding magnetic fields... is that a feature inherent to the monitors, as my supplier told me, because of their calibration in japan, or can it be opened and readjusted (please give me instructions then) ... or is my leg being pulled and I have to give the monitor back??? cu simon -- Dogshit and women have something in common ... the older they get, the easier they are to pick up!' -Al Bundy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!news.internetMCI.com!not-for-mail From: a;dlfj@;aldfjs.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: -Young cheerleader fucking and sucking cock Date: 26 Jun 1997 18:26:05 GMT Organization: Internet MCI Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5ouc7t$j9s$214@news.internetmci.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: usr9-dialup18.mix1.bloomington.mci.net Are you ready to look at pictures of Teens fucking and sucking? Then cum visit: http://www.sexy-girls.com All models represented on Sexy-Girls are 18 years of Age or Older. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!rzunews.unizh.ch!orc.studi.unizh.ch!swagner From: swagner@studi1.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Cube Floppy Date: 26 Jun 1997 17:45:09 GMT Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5ou9r5$gki@rzunews.unizh.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: orc.studi.unizh.ch X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I just got hold of my first NeXt ... something I was dreaming of the last 10 years :)) I also got an internal floppy, but I have to mount it myself.. it's a 040 cube, internal 660mega HD (5.25" full height) and an OD.. which miraculously works... now... I'd rip out the big HD and put in a 3.5" .. that would make room for the floppy, while leaving the OD.. problem: I have nothing to cover the front then... I can break out the wide window, which was meant for a second OD or so.. but that looks terrible... does anyone know of a replacement shutter? that has the right hole for the floppy? and of a way to mount these three devices so that the floppy and the OD are aligned to their slots?? thanks a lot!!!! (can you, if you do, please respond via email? simon -- Dogshit and women have something in common ... the older they get, the easier they are to pick up!' -Al Bundy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!rzunews.unizh.ch!orc.studi.unizh.ch!swagner From: swagner@studi1.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM E15 drive and black? Date: 26 Jun 1997 17:55:52 GMT Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5ouaf8$gki@rzunews.unizh.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: orc.studi.unizh.ch X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I heard that black hardware can't use IBM's E15 hard-disk.. it's one of IBM's first giga-disks.. about 4 years old.. but it's lying around here and perhaps I could put it to better use.. has anyone gotten tips for making this beast work?? cu simon -- Dogshit and women have something in common ... the older they get, the easier they are to pick up!' -Al Bundy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: a;dlfj@;aldfjs.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ouc7t$j9s$214@news.internetmci.com> Control: cancel <5ouc7t$j9s$214@news.internetmci.com> Date: 26 Jun 1997 18:32:05 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: -Young cheerleader fucking and sucking cock X-Original-Date: 26 Jun 1997 18:26:05 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Jesse McCann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP PCMCIA Support Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:51:29 -0500 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <33B05D81.1937@bestweb.net> Reply-To: ybco@bestweb.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-15.katonah.bestweb.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Does NeXTSTEP 3.1 for Intel Processors support PCMCIA in such computers as the Compaq LTE laptop? Jesse McCann ybco@bestweb.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ins.net!piro.net!not-for-mail From: "Gerd Sender" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Prelude Installation cannot find Quantum Drive LPS340S Date: 27 Jun 1997 01:07:40 GMT Organization: PIRONET GmbH Lines: 18 Message-ID: <01bc8285$c03855f0$016fa8c0@penni-nt> References: <01bc823f$5a7ec820$016fa8c0@penni-nt> <5ou5k6$7vp$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: surfu123.koeln.netsurf.de X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Christian Neuss schrieb im Beitrag <5ou5k6$7vp$1@news.th-darmstadt.de>... > "Gerd Sender" wrote: > >and Fireball HD appear, but not the Quantum LPS340S, which I´d like to use > properly :-) But I'm assuming you are talking about Intel hardware. Yes The disk can be formated and verified with the bios and is accessible under W95 and NT. Adaptec SCSI utlities say that it has 512 byte sectors. The disk has no termination, but the bus is terminated at both ends. Gerd #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!gmv.es!news.IAEhv.nl!news.oru.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT architectures? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:39:30 GMT References: <01bc8046$4cfac460$7b9fc9c7@aengus.jlc.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 19 In article <01bc8046$4cfac460$7b9fc9c7@aengus.jlc.net>, Marinara, like the sauce wrote: >What system architextures will the NeXTStep os run on? The current >version, that is. I wanted to run it on a DEC Alpha. Will it run on x86 >too? I got the impression it only uses a unique architexture (Black Box?). > NeXTSTEP 3.3 (the last "NeXTSTEP") runs on Motorola (NeXT hardware), Intel (check the compatibility guide at http://www.next.com/), Sparc (SPARC 4, 5, 10, some 20s, Voyager, and maybe others), and HP (don't know much about the supported hardware here.) OPENSTEP for Mach 4.2 (the most recent version) runs on Motorola, Intel, and I think Sparc. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newer Versions of NeXT on a Cube Date: 23 Jun 1997 02:09:43 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5oklt7$hff$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5okgou$g4a$1@nntp-2.io.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] The add on card you are referring to is NeXTDimension board.. the i860 is used exclusively for graphics manipulation.. I don't know if you can use it for number crunching Godwin Lupo LeBoucher (ix@xanadu.io.com) wrote: : I'm wondering if there is anything to be gained by upgrading my Cube to : something beyond the ancient v2.1 of the OS which is included on the : thing? (I got it for free, believe it or not). : Also, I noticed some information about an i860 motherboard one could : install in the thing. This would be pretty neato for number crunching; : does anyone know of a supplier or have any further info on this : "nextGeneration" motherboard? : -Lupo : "In dee wiyuld, wee are primarily carneeevorous" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!btnet!insnet.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!130.207.244.18!gatech!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does a Teac FD235-HS work with Black hardware? Date: 26 Jun 1997 21:15:46 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <5ov482$mc3@umbc9.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc9.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: bhurle1 Lines: 10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:26262 comp.sys.next.hardware:29523 does this scsi floppy drive work with black hardware? specifically 030 and 040 cubes. as well as whatever else it works with, or your experience with would be greatly appreciated. thanks bryan 040 25 20 100 3.2 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!edew From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Re: How do I use a ZIP drive on my NeXTStaion? Message-ID: Sender: edew@netcom2.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <5od3cp$4ln$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 02:19:23 GMT Lines: 19 In article dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: >In article <5od3cp$4ln$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw>, >Spencer Yu wrote: >>Talk to me like I am 3 years old..I am totally clueless...do I need >>some driver or something, in order to use a SCSI ZIP on my NeXTStaion? >> > > No. You get the right cable (the one that will let you plug it into the >blue thing with one end and the black thing with the other) and away you go. > This is true. You don't need any tools zip disk, no installation floppy or anything else. Just get a 25pin-50pin scsi cable (around $14, depending on where you buy it). Make sure you get the right type of 50pin connector: if it hooks up to your slab, then it is the scsi II type. If it hooks up to another scsi device, chances are it may be a scsi I type (centronics). That's it. It is literally as easy as anything in terms of plug and play. EDEW #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!ix.netcom.com!news From: Jason Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Don't read this message! Date: 27 Jun 1997 02:43:15 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5ov9c3$g16@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: grc-ny11-02.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Jun 26 9:43:15 PM CDT 1997 CALLING ALL LITERARY MINDS! I am trying to compose a coffee table book on the topic of EXCUSES.  To add an original flavor to my project I am attempting to derive my research entirely from people I come in contact with on the Net. 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Long live free speech!                                                                  Sincerely yours,                                                                  Jason #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!metro!metro!news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!actcsiro!pwm From: pwm@cbr.dit.csiro.au (Peter Milne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adding a 2.1Gbyte disk under NS3.3 Date: 27 Jun 1997 04:20:00 GMT Organization: C.S.I.R.O Australia Lines: 66 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ovf1g$l9c@hercules.its.csiro.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: antlia.cbr.dit.csiro.au Folks I have upgraded my NeXTSTATION to NS3.3 and have my new 2.1G disk set up as an external drive. The first time I started my machine after upgrading to NS3.3 and adding the external drive it saw the new disk and asked if I wanted to initialise it. It initialised the disk successfully but Workspace reported its free space as being about half what it should be. Consulting the console log showed the following: /usr/etc/disk -i -h gringo -l "NeXTDisk" -d -2124974080 /dev/rsd3a disk name: SEAGATE ST52160N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd3a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd3a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd3a 1059490 81 4 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 314 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd3a: 1059490 sectors in 3271 cylinders of 4 tracks, 81 sectors 1084.9Mb in 205 cyl groups (16 c/g, 5.31Mb/g 1280 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: ...... ...... ...... creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd3b /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd3b /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd3b 1059491 81 4 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 313 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd3b: 1059491 sectors in 3271 cylinders of 4 tracks, 81 sectors 1084.9Mb in 205 cyl groups (16 c/g, 5.31Mb/g, 1280 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: ...... ...... ...... initialisation complete Jun 26 17:19:10 Workspace: Mounted hard disk at /NeXTDisk Question: Is the reason why Workspace is only reporting half the free space on the disk due to the initialisation process creating two partitions but mounting only rsd3a? I ran BuildDisk hoping that this would help. It correctly saw the external disk as having 2069Mbytes. It built the disk successfully (I didn't specify any partitions) and reported that there were 1656Mbytes free (413 Mbytes used). (In BuildDisk I changed the disk's name to ST52160N). After running BuildDisk Workspace reports the external disk has 704Mbytes free and df returns: kbytes used avail 1023390 199132 721919 22% /ST52160N I'm confused. I thought NS3.3 knew how to initialise and build 2.1Gbyte drives. How should I proceed? Do I have to mess with disktab and fstab entries? My ultimate aim once the new disk is correctly built is to copy all my files over to it from the existing internal drive, then replace the internal drive with it. Cheers, Peter (peter.milne@cmis.csiro.au) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ov9c3$g16@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> Date: 27 Jun 1997 05:05:27 GMT Control: cancel <5ov9c3$g16@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: Sender: Jason X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: yuyilkhj@trefse.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ovvl9$h4k@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5ovvl9$h4k@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: 27 Jun 1997 09:05:13 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: New 800/888 Service Avalabale That will blow you away!! X-Original-Date: 27 Jun 1997 09:03:37 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!grewal From: grewal@uclink4.berkeley.edu.nospam (Kawaldeep Grewal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apple LaserWriter with black hardware? Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 02:40:31 -0800 Organization: UC Berkeley Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: hay-ca8-61.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jun 27 4:41:11 AM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 I'm reading Bruce Webster's "The Next Book". and it says that black hardware (specifically, the mono cube) can print out to a Apple LaserWriter II NT/NTX. Is this still possible with a combination of black hardware and nextstep 3.3? The author was refering to a beta version of the OS (.8 or ..9). I was hoping to connect the two through Ethernet, but serial will do. Regards, Kawaldeep Grewal Reply to grewal@uclink4.berkeley.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!192.249.1.30!utk.edu!beauvois From: beauvois@usa.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: repairing Digital Ears Date: 27 Jun 1997 10:18:31 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tchm18a4.rmt.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Mine seems to have gone up in a cloud of smoke. I thought I heard of someone a while back who repaired these... Anyone got a dead one I might be able to use for parts ? Much obliged -- CB #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ix.netcom.com!grewal From: grewal@uclink4.berkeley.edu.nospam (Kawaldeep Grewal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any SCSI harddrive in black? Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 02:55:37 -0800 Organization: UC Berkeley Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: hay-ca8-61.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jun 27 4:56:17 AM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Can I put any SCSI harddrive in old black hardware and have the system recognize it (i.e. boot from it)? Sorry for the beginner question, but can't find any next faq's...maybe someone can point me towards one? Regards, Kawaldeep Grewal Reply to grewal@uclink4.berkeley.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!news.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple LaserWriter with black hardware? Date: 27 Jun 1997 12:05:19 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5p0a9v$5n2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: grewal@uclink4.berkeley.edu In Kawaldeep Grewal wrote: > I'm reading Bruce Webster's "The Next Book". and it says that black > hardware (specifically, the mono cube) can print out to a Apple LaserWriter > II NT/NTX. Is this still possible with a combination of black hardware and > nextstep 3.3? The author was refering to a beta version of the OS (.8 or > ..9). I was hoping to connect the two through Ethernet, but serial will do. For connecting by Ethernet (Appletalk) see http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html For connecting by serial, all you need is a printer cable. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!chico.franken.de!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.212.101.2!sonnet1.sonnet.com!news.pacbell.net!news.pbi.net!news.PBI.net!news.genesisnetwork.net!207.215.180.59 From: ap26@ap26.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ## SURPLUS/EXCESS INVENTORY ## Date: 26 Jun 97 20:18:09 GMT Organization: Axcess3 Lines: 43 Message-ID: <33b2ce81.0@news.genesisnetwork.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.genesisnetwork.net ## EXCESS/SURPLUS INVENTORY WANTED ## AX~CESS COMPUTER IS NOW SEEKING QUANTITIES OF EXCESS, OBSOLETE, SURPLUS, NEW OR USED, END OF LIFE, OVERSTOCKED, FRANKLY, ANY COMPUTER RELATED INVENTORIES. 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Is there any solution to get a correct gamma value with my mga vga? easters@nuri.net (NeXT Mail OK) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.m.shuttle.de!news.b.shuttle.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.241.0.194!news.wwa.com!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any SCSI harddrive in black? Date: 27 Jun 1997 16:27:16 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5p0pl4$jcb$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: vader.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) grewal@uclink4.berkeley.edu.nospam (Kawaldeep Grewal) wrote: >Can I put any SCSI harddrive in old black hardware and have the system >recognize it (i.e. boot from it)? Sorry for the beginner question, but >can't find any next faq's...maybe someone can point me towards one? > >Regards, > >Kawaldeep Grewal > >Reply to grewal@uclink4.berkeley.edu Check out Timothy Luoma's Home Page. He has quite a few links that will be helpful (including FAQs). http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ --Ryan Scott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: see-url@bottom (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Daydream to Next color printer Date: 27 Jun 1997 09:40:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5p0qd1$34h@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <5ok5vm$aas@news1-alterdial.uu.net> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: rwakeman@thoughtport.com In <5ok5vm$aas@news1-alterdial.uu.net> rwakeman@thoughtport.com wrote: > I have been running Daydream on my cube for several years and have > printed to the Next laser printer with no problems. I also have a Next > color printer, and wonder if there is a mac driver for it. Has anyone > been able to print from Daydream directly (no network) to the Next > color printer? If so, any help would be appreciated. > I have tried both the Apple Color Printer driver (Apple OEM version of the Canon printer) and the Canon drivers for the Canon Version... neither work. 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Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!News1.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a 2.1Gbyte disk under NS3.3 Date: 27 Jun 1997 13:12:04 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5p0e74$21o$1@bashir.peak.org> References: <5ovf1g$l9c@hercules.its.csiro.au> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: pwm@cbr.dit.csiro.au In <5ovf1g$l9c@hercules.its.csiro.au> Peter Milne wrote: > I have upgraded my NeXTSTATION to NS3.3 and have my new 2.1G disk set > up as an external drive. > I'm confused. I thought NS3.3 knew how to initialise > and build 2.1Gbyte drives. How should I proceed? > Do I have to mess with disktab and fstab entries? Nope. 2.0 is the limit. Specifically 2047 megs. It probably split the disk into 2 partitions. You can try mounting /dev/sdXh where 'X' is the same as the partition you currently have. My guess is that it might be /dev/sd1a, so try /dev/sd1h However, if you read the sysadmin group, (and since you re-posted this message in csn.sysadmin I'm guessing you do), checkout the archives for "HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive" a thread from late May. Having two partitions is not efficient. TjL ps -- please do not crosspost within comp.sys.next.* groups. If you _must_ then a) post both messages at once, separating the newsgroups with a "," and b) set a Followups-To line. 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Any suggestions? TIA my return adress anti spammed please remove the animal from my return address, or respond to smarqz at unm dot edu (thanks) #################################################################### Message-ID: <33B58D44.7C2251CD@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 18:16:37 -0400 From: "Dr. Andreas D. Bovopoulos" Organization: PairGain Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How Can I print from a Window95 PC to a Next Printer over a LAN? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.37.127.168 Lines: 21 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!129.37.127.168 Hi, I have a Next computer and two PC connected over an Ethernet (TCP/IP) network. Currently, when I wish to print a file from my PC on the Next's printer, I transfer the file to the Next first, and then I print it. Is there any utility that I could install on my PC so that I can automatically print on the Next's printer? I assume that I should be able to do something like this, by specifying Next's IP address. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Andreas Bovopoulos -- Dr. Andreas D. 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X-Original-Date: 28 Jun 1997 21:32:10 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!remote72.server1.local.premium.dialup.unt.edu!user From: mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EIDE problem - OpenStep Install & PC hardware sucks! Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:13:51 -0600 Organization: University of North Texas Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: remote72.server1.local.premium.dialup.unt.edu X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3fc1 Question 6.... Good question...... any answers might upset the masses!!!! so, I will restrain from answering. > > 6) How come PC hardware still sucks big time 17 years after it was concocted? > > Paul #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: aej;orea.z,nf@peaowjr.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5p49e6$3rt$3135@news.internetmci.com> Control: cancel <5p49e6$3rt$3135@news.internetmci.com> Date: 29 Jun 1997 00:15:54 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: Bulk-E-Mail Program X-Original-Date: 29 Jun 1997 00:15:02 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!chi-news.cic.net!199.60.229.3!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-xfer.netaxs.com!shelob.afs.com!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <10436866952022@digifix.com> Date: 29 Jun 1997 03:56:52 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 330 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <1452867556825@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:73064 comp.sys.next.announce:4267 comp.sys.next.hardware:29541 comp.sys.next.software:30130 comp.sys.next.misc:26322 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27302 comp.sys.next.bugs:4395 comp.sys.next.programmer:25112 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Hardware and Cable Modems Date: 29 Jun 1997 05:02:36 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5p4q9c$1q6$1@bashir.peak.org> References: <5omiq1$djj@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <5on8m3$c1k$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5p3hqm$9uv$1@news.istar.ca> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: jsamson@istar.ca In <5p3hqm$9uv$1@news.istar.ca> Jean-Paul Samson wrote: > On 06/23/97, Godwin wrote: > >If the modem is ethernet based it should be okay > > The cable providers in my area now have cable modems. A few of my > friends have these blazing beasts and they do hook into the computer > via Ethernet. I've been told that you are not assigned a fixed IP > address; rather, it is dynamically assigned when you connect (like PPP > does). Will such a cable modem system work with NeXT's? My provider does provide a static IP, so I am not speaking from experience, but I would think that it would be hard for the NeXT to handle this automatically, because the NeXT wants to know the IP during the boot cycle.... However, it is _possible_ that there might be a way to do this... TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html *** Starting July 2nd I will be taking Hebrew. Email and Usenet response time will be noticeably slower. *** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: eide problem Date: 24 Jun 1997 17:48:10 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5op18q$hp9$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <33AFF183.46B2@treknet.is> NNTP-Posting-Host: interchg.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Did you add the second EIDE driver? Would that be the problem?? Go under preference and drivers and add another EIDE driver for the seocnd controller. Kinda silly but it works.. (or used to!) =) Godwin Sigthor Hrafnsson (siffi@treknet.is) wrote: : Hi all : I got a pentium pc with 2 x eide 1 gb + cd. : I can't get nextstep to mount more than 2 at a time. : I can have the 2 ide on primary controller, : then the cd dosn't work on the secondary controller. : I can have the 1 ide and cd on the primary controller, : then the second ide dosn't work on the secondary controller. : The secondary controller is not broke, I can see the 2 ide and : the cd in windows 95 (I got 2 oses on the same machine). : Any ideas? : siffi@treknet.is #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!not-for-mail From: "Eric M. Aldrich I" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Detailed black hardware specs Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 03:36:09 +0000 Organization: Wavequest Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <33B5D820.B3A@wavequest.com> Reply-To: ealdrich@wavequest.com NNTP-Posting-Host: rosebud.punk.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29544 comp.sys.next.advocacy:73071 comp.sys.next.misc:26324 Does anyone have or know where to find detailed hardware specs for the various configurations of black (Motorola) NeXT hardware? I'm looking for things such as serial port speeds, SCSI specs, NeXTbus speeds -- all the stuff that isn't in the FAQ. Post or email is fine. Any applicable info appreciated. Eric #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!193.10.88.100!news00.sunet.se!sunic!mn6.swip.net!mn5.swip.net!news From: "Joacim Melin" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstep v3.3 (Intel) with the Matrox Mystique gfx-adapter. Date: 29 Jun 1997 12:25:04 GMT Organization: A customer of Tele2 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01b991ed$9c62da00$13b8f482@nostromo.melin.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: mn8.swip.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Cache-Post-Path: mn8!s-226072@dialup184-1-19.swipnet.se Hello. Just wondering if Nextstep v3.3 will work properly with an Matrox Mystique. I mean, will I have to settle with vanilla VGA (640x480x16) or is there any drivers that I can use to get great resolution and colors ? Please respond via email to joacim@mbox301.swipnet.se Thanks for any advice. /Joacim Melin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Detailed black hardware specs Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:50:01 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <33B5D820.B3A@wavequest.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: po6.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <33B5D820.B3A@wavequest.com> [ ...Newsgroups trimmed... ] Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-Jun-97 Detailed black hardware specs by "Eric M. Aldrich I"@wave > Does anyone have or know where to find detailed hardware specs for the > various configurations of black (Motorola) NeXT hardware? I'm looking > for things such as serial port speeds, SCSI specs, NeXTbus speeds -- all > the stuff that isn't in the FAQ. You can push the serial ports up to 38.4K reliably on turbo (33 MHz) machines, and sometimes non-turbos (25 MHz) seem to run okay at that rate although maybe it depends on the data and how well any compression is doing. Some will only do 19.2K reliably. I've heard some with turbos say they seem to work okay at 57.6K, but I again suspect that depends on the effective data rate through the modem and that it may not be reliable at that speed. The SCSI bus on all runs at 5 MB/s asyncronous SCSI only. The NeXTbus is really a double-speed Mac NuBus design, also referred to as the "workstation NuBus" standard. I believe it's 20 MB/s sustained, and has a peak burst rate for aligned transfers of 80 MB/s. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Message-ID: <33B772E6.FFD158DB@frozenwave.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 01:48:38 -0700 From: "M@" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5C (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking To: Scott Hess Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress16 performance problems. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.188.49.84 Lines: 75 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!taz.turbonet.com!204.188.49.84 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.os.linux.hardware:83764 comp.sys.next.hardware:29547 comp.os.linux.networking:87383 Scott Hess wrote: > > The article I'm responding to wasn't posted on col.networking the > first time, sorry about that. > > In article , > scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: > [Wherein I describe how I was seeing very low ttcp throughput > (50Kbyte/s) from a variety of boxes _to_ a 486/150 running Linux > with an EtherExpress16, except for from a NeXTstation, which got > 600+Kbyte/s. Throughput _from_ the Linux box was always > reasonable. Setting the receive window size to a mere 1.5k pushed > throughput from all machines to the Linux box up to 500Kbyte/s.] > > Well, I still don't know what the problem is, but I do know more. I > put an NE2000 ISA card in the Linux box, and now it's able to > send/receive at high rates from any box on my network. Worse, I put > the EtherExpress16 in a Pentium box running NeXTSTEP3.3, and it's able > to receive at well in excess of 500KByte/s. > > Since the EtherExpress16 has a 32kbyte buffer, it would seem to not be > a buffer problem. It may be that I had the card setup wrong > (IO-mapped versus mem-mapped?), but I can't tell from the driver > documentation and output whether that's the case. > > In any case, I trust NeXT's EtherExpress16 driver more than the > generic NE2000 driver, and now I trust the Linux NE2000 driver more > than the eexpress driver, so ... I think I'll just leave the NE2000 > card in the Linux box and count my blessings. I had an EtherExpress 16 which kept locking up on me. By locking up I don't mean just the OS stopped responding, I mean the actuall card stopped responding and caused the machine to lock up (you can't even ping it from another machine). I went looking for the source file (eexress.c) and found the following comment in the file header. /* * The original EtherExpress driver was just about usable, but * suffered from a long startup delay, a hard limit of 16k memory * usage on the card (EtherExpress 16s have either 32k or 64k), * and random locks under load. The last was particularly annoying * and made running eXceed/W preferable to Linux/XFree. After hacking * through the driver for a couple of days, I had fixed most of the * card handling errors, at the expense of turning the code into * a complete jungle, but still hadn't tracked down the lock-ups. * I had hoped these would be an IP bug, but failed to reproduce them * under other drivers, so decided to start from scratch and rewrite * the driver cleanly. And here it is. * * It's still not quite there, but self-corrects a lot more problems. * the 'CU wedged, resetting...' message shouldn't happen at all, but * at least we recover. It still locks occasionally, any ideas welcome. * * The original startup delay experienced by some people was due to the * first ARP request for the address of the default router getting lost. * (mostly the reply we were getting back was arriving before our * hardware address was set up, or before the configuration sequence * had told the card NOT to strip of the frame header). If you a long * startup delay, you may have lost this ARP request/reply, although * the original cause has been fixed. However, it is more likely that * you've just locked under this version. * * The main changes are in the 586 initialization procedure (which was * just broken before - the EExp is a strange beasty and needs careful * handling) the receive buffer handling (we now use a non-terminating * circular list of buffers, which stops the card giving us out-of- * resources errors), and the transmit code. The driver is also more * structured, and I have tried to keep the kernel interface separate * from the hardware interface (although some routines naturally want * to do both). * Hope that helps, -M@ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.io.com!not-for-mail From: ix@pentagon.io.com (Lupo LeBoucher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Detailed black hardware specs Date: 30 Jun 1997 08:43:37 GMT Organization: Illuminati Online Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5p7rjp$slj$1@nntp-3.io.com> References: <33B5D820.B3A@wavequest.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pentagon.io.com X-Newsposter: trn 4.0-test56 (2 Mar 97) In article , Charles William Swiger wrote: >[ ...Newsgroups trimmed... ] > >The SCSI bus on all runs at 5 MB/s asyncronous SCSI only. > >The NeXTbus is really a double-speed Mac NuBus design, also referred to >as the "workstation NuBus" standard. I believe it's 20 MB/s sustained, >and has a peak burst rate for aligned transfers of 80 MB/s. FWIIW, I ran STREAM on my 25Mhz NeXT Cube & got the following results: Function Rate (MB/s) RMS time Min time Max time Copy: 19.6923 0.4299 0.4062 0.4531 Scale: 16.5161 0.4986 0.4844 0.5156 Add: 17.0667 0.7157 0.7031 0.7344 Triad: 16.0000 0.7704 0.7500 0.7812 A Natoma/Triton2 chipsetted 200Mhz PPro running Linux gives: Function Rate (MB/s) RMS time Min time Max time Copy: 76.1905 0.2110 0.2100 0.2200 Scale: 76.1905 0.2110 0.2100 0.2200 Add: 85.7143 0.2850 0.2800 0.2900 Triad: 85.7143 0.2870 0.2800 0.2900 -Lupo "In dee wiyuld, wee are primarily carneeevorous" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news.rediris.es!news.iac.es!news From: dfgalvan@next2.icia.rcanaria.es (Domingo Fernandez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NXFax and USR 33.6 v. Everything modem Date: 30 Jun 1997 09:06:28 GMT Organization: Instituto de Astrofisica de Canarias Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5p7suk$r84@sinfo.ll.iac.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: next2.icia.rcanaria.es X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(n) Someone knows how to make it work? Thanks -- Domingo Fernandez Galvan MIME NeXT Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias Dto. Fruticultura Tropical Apdo 60 La Laguna 38200 Tenerife Canary Is. 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NX Station shutdown broken Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5ol7h9$2qp$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:42:58 GMT Lines: 53 In article <5ol7h9$2qp$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> writes: > When I want to shut down the NeXT Station Turbo Color of my > friend, > 1) I click on the power button in the loggin window or on the > restart button if I want to restart the station, and I get a > panel which tell me if I realy want to shut down or restart the > computer. After I click on the button and normaly the station > should stop after killing all the proccess. > 2) I just obtain that all panels disappear and nothing more. > To stop completely the station I need to press at the same moment > the right Command Key and the upper left keys of the numeric > keyboard. > After that I obtain a mini panel telling me if I want to Power > off the computer or to restart it or stay like that. > I have to press the power button or the r and after that to press > simultaneously the right Cmd key and the upper left numeric key > and press after the r or the power key. > Normally the station stop. > The problem is that when I want to power on the station it take > approximatively 10 minutes to check the Hard drive (and sync it I > think) and to restart completely until the loggin window. > > Is it a hardware failure or a part of the OS is broken ? > Neither one. You just happened run a process that refuses to respond to the signal 'TERM'. This either means you have a rogue process or, unfortunately, some process who hit a weakness of NeXT MACH kernel implementation. The most infamous is a process who owns an open serial line with a switched off external device. But OmniWeb is also said to have such an unwanted effect. > What do I do to repair ? > Check your list of processes, make an educated guess about the possible culprit, and kill it manually. Then shut down and see if everything went ok... If you identified the guilty process you must find a way to shut it down befor you power down or you must avoid the situation that makes it hang (for instance, leave the serial device switched on). > Is the checking of the HD not good for the HD' life time ? > No, to a hard drive it is rather meaningless on what it spends its time. Just uptime counts, since it is the bearings that get spent first, in almost all cases. Thermal cycles count most. So it depends on how often you power down and let it cool off before switching on again. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. 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What does it take to get the modem to receive faxes? I've installed NXFax and configured a fax modem in the PrintManger.app. It can send faxes fine, I just cant receive faxes (unattended). The modem just doesn't answer. I've set the fax configuration in PrintManger to answer in 1 ring and I've tried a few other things (see below). I've tried using 'cu' to manually set things like ATS0=1 AT+FAA=1 ATAA=1 +FAA=1 but the thing still doesn't answer the phone. Am I doing something wrong? Did I miss something? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.scruz.net!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5p7g1n$945$2875@cadmium.aware.nl> Date: 30 Jun 1997 15:42:01 GMT Control: cancel <5p7g1n$945$2875@cadmium.aware.nl> Message-ID: Sender: X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news.m.shuttle.de!news.b.shuttle.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: litagent345@aol.com (litagent345) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <33b47b5a.0@news1.ibm.net> Control: cancel <33b47b5a.0@news1.ibm.net> Date: 30 Jun 1997 16:00:56 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-33b47b5a.0@news1.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ngsoap01.news.aol.com Please cancel this posting #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!stem.com!usenet From: clane@stem.com (Christopher Lane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a 2.1Gbyte disk under NS3.3 Date: 27 Jun 1997 16:51:08 GMT Organization: Systemix, Inc. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5p0r1s$nig@iserver.stem.com> References: <5ovf1g$l9c@hercules.its.csiro.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: flowmis.stem.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) pwm@cbr.dit.csiro.au (Peter Milne) wrote: > I'm confused. I thought NS3.3 knew how to initialise and build 2.1Gbyte > drives. 2.1GB is the changeover between where the NeXT can automatically format the disk into a single BSD partition and where it has to split the disk up into multiple partitions. The magic number is around 2^31 = 2.147GB, your Segate ST52160N appears to the OS as a 2.160GB disk so it splits it into two partitions. (2.147GB appears to be close to the cutover, probably not exact due to format issues.) NS 3.3, and later, does know how to format 2.1GB and larger drives -- it splits them into smaller units. Prior to that, they were handled even worse. Although the NeXT can't have a local BSD disk partition larger than 2.1GB, it can handle NFS mounted filesystems that are larger. The following NeXTAnswers may be helpful: Initializing and Partitioning Large Disks: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1533.htmld/1533.html Adding On without Flipping Out http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1849.htmld/1849.html My personal recommendation is stay on one side or the other of the boundary -- i.e. use disks that are slightly smaller than 2.1GB or use very large disks that can be partitioned into multiple 2.1GB partitions. - Christopher #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!not-for-mail From: luomat@extra.crunchy.peanut.butter.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How Can I print from a Window95 PC to a Next Printer over a LAN? Date: 29 Jun 1997 18:31:51 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5p69mn$mgg$2@bashir.peak.org> References: <33B58D44.7C2251CD@ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: andreas_bovopoulos@ibm.net You are looking for samba http://lake.canberra.edu.au/pub/samba/ TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html *** Starting July 2nd I will be taking Hebrew. Email and Usenet response time will be noticeably slower. *** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news-master!news From: "Frank H. Haddaway" Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt,1,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.windows.interviews,comp.windows.suit,niagara.personals, Subject: Re: ****CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER**** BUILD YOUR OWN DESCRAMBLER FAST CHEAP AND EASY Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 22:25:50 -0400 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 28 Message-ID: <33B86AAE.82E@concentric.net> References: <33b75746.0@news.netzilla.net> Reply-To: frankhad@concentric.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ts005d01.phe-pa.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C (Win95; I) To: Free Cable Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim:221961 comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt:4103 comp.sys.next.hardware:29555 comp.windows.interviews:364 comp.windows.suit:1231 Free Cable wrote: > > ****CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER**** > > BUILD YOUR OWN DESCRAMBLER FAST CHEAP AND EASY > > Cable Descrambler plans available for $ 5.00 > Build your own cable descrambler box using parts > you can buy from Radio Shack for less than $15 > Can be used on pay per view and Premuim Movie Channels > See all your favorite movie channels, pay per view etc. > > To recieve detail instructions and diagrams on how to construct > your own Cable Box Descrambler send $5.00 > CASH MONEY ORDER CHECK to the address below. > > G.TANG > 1970 E. Osceola Parkway > Suite# 242 > Kissimmee Fl. 34743 > Before you send your money to this bozo, stop over at one of the cable TV newsgroups (alt.cable-tv.re-regulate or rec.video.cable-tv) and ask if these plans really work. They do not! This creep knows that, which is why he is here, spamming and scamming you (and every other newsgroup he can find), rather than posting at the site where people who have an interest in cable TV hang out. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.cybernet.dk!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!news1.netusa.net!nntp.newsfirst.com!nntp.crosslink.net!not-for-mail From: gregor@crosslink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ZyXEL FAX Modem won't receive FAXes Date: 1 Jul 1997 03:40:20 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5p9u74$d98$1@kronos.crosslink.net> References: <5p8nu2$30l@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reply-To: gregor@crosslink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.246.65.180 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) Cc: daj@nwu.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29556 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27328 comp.sys.next.software:30146 In <5p8nu2$30l@news.acns.nwu.edu> daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I have NXFax.app (a license'd copy) and a ZyXEL Omni 2864 Fax Modem. > What does it take to get the modem to receive faxes? Dave: Try this. It fixed my problem and sounds like the same thing I ran into: -login as root -launch Terminal app -type the following command: dwrite AuxATCommand "ATS18=0 note: use the name of your modem as shown in print manager app. the last line is 18 equals 0. My eyes are getting tired and I cant tell whether it is` showing up as an equals symbol. -press enter in order for the dwrite to take effect, you must restart the fax driver from a terminal window by issuing the following command: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/exec_faxes -press enter hope this works for you! Best regards Gregor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!130.207.244.18!gatech!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.syd.connect.com.au!phaedrus.kralizec.net.au!not-for-mail From: "Greg Shaw" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Formatting iomega jaz 1 GB disk for NeXT Date: 1 Jul 1997 04:16:11 GMT Organization: Decisionware Lines: 27 Message-ID: <01bc85d5$6629e080$1c0b1acb@decisionware> References: <5oubq7$ga4$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: d28.syd2.zeta.org.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Narendra, Do you have the disktab entry required for accessing the Jaz disk. I believe there is one on NeXTAnswers. Cheers, Greg Shaw. Narendra Batra wrote in article <5oubq7$ga4$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil>... > > I am having hard time formatting jaz 1GB disk. Can any one guide me on > this? > > [I could format it for Mcintosh and used this formatted disk for backup of > data on next cube ( don't suggest using optical disk for backup.... that > drive does not work anymore and I can't find a vender who would sell these > optical dives for Next cube.] > > Thanks for your input. > > Sincerely > > Narendra > /www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html > *** Starting July 2nd I will be taking Hebrew. Email and Usenet > response time will be noticeably slower. *** > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!194.121.224.3!cyberspam!news From: a;dslfj@a;skjdfsd.com Organization: Internet MCI Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5p9v9n$edr$2471@news.internetmci.com> Message-ID: Control: cancel <5p9v9n$edr$2471@news.internetmci.com> Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de References: <5p9v9n$edr$2471@news.internetmci.com> Lines: 5 Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 04:16:33 GMT X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "sexy-girls.com" or "summary of auto-cancellations" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: .Teens Fucking, Sucking, and Cuming teenfsc.jpg. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!brie.direct.ca!cunningh From: cunningh@direct.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Novell NE2000 Ethernet driver found! Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 15:20:49 -0800 Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: van-52-0926.direct.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 There was a recent post regarding a NEx000 Ethernet driver; the one from OpenStep 3.3 (NEx000 v.97) I can confirm works on my PC running OpenStep 4.2. There is a newer driver out there, I have heard, called NE2000 v3.0, which allows some extra features needed for the Columbia Appletalk Package to function. Anyone seen this newer v3.0 driver? Thanks #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!brie.direct.ca!cunningh From: cunningh@direct.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Crystal CS4232 Sound driver with OpenStep 4.2? Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 15:18:41 -0800 Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: van-52-0926.direct.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 My PC has a "Soundblaster Compatible" Crystal Semiconductor CS4232 chip on the motherboard. When in windows, a program runs to initialize it into SB16 compatible mode, I believe by downloading microcode into the chip buffer. I have tried running a SB16 driver in OpenStep, to no avail... not found, it says during boot. I believe I have tried the correct IRQ/DMA/Port settings -- these are the same ones which work under DOS and Win95, at least. Any idea how to make this soundchip work under Openstep? Thanks, all Ken #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net!news.pacbell.net!not-for-mail From: "Oscar J. Shearer" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,fr.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: OpenStep4.2 on PC Asustek/T2P4, Cyrix 166, MatroxMystique ? Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:47:05 -0700 Organization: SafeNet Service & Support Lines: 33 Message-ID: <33B88BC9.134CC185@pacbell.net> References: <33AE3BE3.41C6@ina.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-207-104-66-76.rvsd01.pacbell.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29561 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27333 fr.comp.sys.next:1737 Neil Rhodes wrote: > Larent, > > As I found out, Prelude to Rhapsody is not compatible with the Cyrix > chip. > I had a Cyrix 200, and had a few crashes while installing. Once I got > it > installed, > it would intermittently crash, except that opening OmniWeb would crash > > every time. Apparently any app using muliple threads will definitely > crash. > > Returned my Cyrix for a Pentium and all is OK. > AMAZING!!! I've just gone through the same experience, even the OmniWeb thing, but with a slightly different Hardware List. Trying to install OpenStep 4.1 on a PC: - HSB Cheyenne (mother board), Cyrix PR166+(CPU) - Matrox Millenium video card - Adaptec 2940US Host Adaptor - Quantum 2.25gig Atlas II - SCSI 12speed (Toshiba) - CISCO CPA0762 Exchanged the Cyrix for a 166mhz Intel P54C and all is well. Oscar J. Shearer merlin4@pacbell.net SafeNet Service & Support #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news From: Windchaser Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT CPU Upgrades? Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 00:48:07 -0500 Organization: ---------- Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33B89A17.79923B15@cyberspace.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ferret.sa.enteract.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) I've read teh FAQ, but the one I have is old. (Is there one newer than 93?) Has anyone tried boosting the CPU in a slab? With something like a Sonnet Doubler (replaces the 040/25 with an 040/50; works in Macs and Amigas) or perhaps some form of 68060 hack? I'm about to purchase a NeXT, and like to hack hardware.. I wonder these things. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!chico.franken.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news1.best.com!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.peak.org!peace!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT CPU Upgrades? Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:56:06 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <33B89A17.79923B15@cyberspace.org> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@peace To: Windchaser In-Reply-To: <33B89A17.79923B15@cyberspace.org> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Windchaser wrote: > I've read teh FAQ, but the one I have is old. (Is there one newer than > 93?) Yes, checkout my web page for the link > Has anyone tried boosting the CPU in a slab? With something like a > Sonnet Doubler (replaces the 040/25 with an 040/50; works in Macs and > Amigas) or perhaps some form of 68060 hack? Wouldn't work. Been asked before. Checkout DejaNews for '68060' for discussions.... basically everything is timed into the 68040 > I'm about to purchase a NeXT, and like to hack hardware.. I wonder these > things. Have fun, but I'd doubt you'd be very lucky without some insider info from NeXT that is not likely to be forthcoming from www.next|apple.com TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html *** Starting July 2nd I will be taking Hebrew. Email and Usenet response time will be noticeably slower. *** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.apfel.de!eerie.fr!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!stem.com!usenet From: clane@stem.com (Christopher Lane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Crystal CS4232 Sound driver with OpenStep 4.2? Date: 1 Jul 1997 16:32:58 GMT Organization: Systemix, Inc. Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5pbbfq$j57@iserver.stem.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: flowmis.stem.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Ken wrote: >My PC has a "Soundblaster Compatible" Crystal Semiconductor CS4232 chip on >the motherboard. When in windows, a program runs to initialize it into SB16 >compatible mode, I believe by downloading microcode into the chip buffer. > >I have tried running a SB16 driver in OpenStep, to no avail... not found, >it says during boot. I believe I have tried the correct IRQ/DMA/Port >settings -- these are the same ones which work under DOS and Win95, at >least. > >Any idea how to make this soundchip work under Openstep? I've looked into this a bit as I've the same situation with an HP Pavilion that has the CS4232 chip on the motherboard. The OPENSTEP SB16 driver won't work directly as the CS4232 doesn't emulate a SB16 until it is programmed to do so by that initialization program that Windows runs. However, there may be a workaround. This is speculation on my part as I don't have the setup to successfully test it, but here's my guess: What Linux users do in this same situation is boot up DOS first, run the CS4232 initialization program and then run a DOS program that continues booting Linux. If you have a DOS partition on your system, try following the instructions on your Windows system for installing the CS4232 initialization program under DOS (this is a well known concept for getting DOS-based games to use the sound chip.) Once you have it working under the DOS partition of your OPENSTEP disk (test it with Doom or some such), then install and use the DOS program 'gonext.com' (shipped under /usr/DOS) to start OPENSTEP running. You'll have to have the SB16 driver installed under OPENSTEP using the same IRQ, port and DMA as you told the CS4232 initialize program to use in your DOS configuration. You may need to use the -soft switch to gonext.com. Eventually, if this scheme works and you automate the boot by having your system boot DOS and having the DOS AUTOEXEC initialize the CS4232 and boot OPENSTEP, you'll want to add the -dontask switch to gonext.com as well. If anyone tries this approach, please let me know what happens -- I lack a DOS partition and trying it from a DOS booted from floppy doesn't work as gonext.com tries to find an OPENSTEP partition on the same disk from which it's run (i.e. the floppy in my case!) - Christopher #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cdc2.cdc.net!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: "Advanced PC" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: new computer Date: 1 Jul 1997 18:55:39 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Lines: 52 Message-ID: <01bc864f$b148ae00$dc7c280a@mark> NNTP-Posting-Host: max-2-104.nash.voyageronline.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 begin 600 Advanced PC sale.txt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eferences: <5ouakm$gki@rzunews.unizh.ch> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: swagner@studi1.unizh.ch In <5ouakm$gki@rzunews.unizh.ch> Simon Wagner wrote: > my newly bought MegaPixel display, b/w, has an annoying feature... > in the top left corner, the borders are curved.. > just there, and it has nothing to do with > surrounding magnetic fields... > is that a feature inherent to the monitors, as my supplier told me, > because of their calibration in japan, or can it be opened and > readjusted (please give me instructions then) ... or is my leg > being pulled and I have to give the monitor back??? > Your leg is being pulled... There is an internal calibration, but from what I remember, you'll need a plastic screwdriver (or any other TV-adjustment tool)... Along with the inherently dangerous job of mucking with monitor internals... Some B&W monitors (used) I have encountered have a slight "bowing" on the top of the image, and older monitors on the sides... (again slight). Newer monitors, like the brand-new 4000B I got a while back have a perfectly square image. YMMV -- Robert Worne [mail to me with the URL below:] Mail: http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/email.html //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uuneo.neosoft.com!scooter-ppp-port-19.neosoft.com!user From: ?digman?@neosoft.com (Larry Campbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: What I learned from apple today... Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 15:18:43 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <5pajcd$eac@news.asu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: scooter-ppp-port-19.neosoft.com X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.1 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.advocacy:237476 comp.sys.next.advocacy:73164 comp.sys.next.software:30152 comp.sys.next.hardware:29570 comp.sys.next.marketplace:18163 Here you go,guys. Laugh? I thought I'd die. -Larry In article <5pajcd$eac@news.asu.edu>, leereyno@imap2.asu.edu wrote: > Today I saw a presentation on Apple's new OS linup including Rhapsody. I > was impressed with what they are trying to do, Apple has finally seemed > to get smart people at the top who know what is going on. If they do > what they are planning to do and do it right, they have a good chance of > both saving Apple and competing successfully with MS in operating > systems. I'm not sure that it is going to happen though. Rhapsody seems > a lot like a mac flavor of OS/2. It will run all the legacy apps and > also new apps which take full advantage of the new operating system. > This is what OS/2 was for the PC. This is a good thing when you look > just at the mac platform, but when you bring the pc into the picture > things get more complicated and uncertain. Rhapsody will also have a > version for the pc. Two versions in fact. The first will be a stand > alone OS which will likely be an updated and improved version of > OpenStep. The second version is designed to run on top of Windows 95 or > NT. Why is this important? It's important because of what they are > planning to do. Their plans are for developers to be able to develop for > both platforms at the same time because the source code will be 100 > percent portable from one to the other. This is hard to do, but it can > be done. It is what MS tried to do with NT and what you already have > under unix at least partially. OpenSTEP is a phenomenal operating > system. It's not perfect, but it has an excellent foundation, unlike > windows 95 or NT. If a house has a good foundation you can fix most > anything else, the same goes for operating systems. Apple is appearently > putting their GUI on top of openstep which is a smart thing to do. Many > people like the mac because they are easier for non-technical people to > use. I have always disliked the macs lack of a robust operating system. > By combining the mac's ease of use with the power of openstep, Apple has > created the operating system they should have had five years ago. The > other important thing is developers. Apple is working hard to win the > support of developers. This is what will make or break the operating > system overall. If a great deal of development takes place, Rhapsody > will be a success. I'm of the opinion that this development will take > place. The mac applicatons will bleed over to the pc side because > development for one platform will mean easy development for the other. > If enough great applications can be developed for Rhapsody, pc users will > start to use it as well. If the operating system is good enough and > becomes popular, MS's monopoly can be broken. If this is destined to > happen, MS will help make it happen by not supporting the operating > system. The leading applications will be written by other companies such > as Claris and MS will have a to play catch up if they ever do develop for > it. If it is successful they will eventually, but not at first which > will work against them in the long run. There is a lot more that I could > say, but this is enough for now. > > Lee Reynolds > leereyno@imap2.asu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: see-url@bottom (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Colour printer problems Date: 1 Jul 1997 12:32:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 36 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5pblvg$jga@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <33B2248B.11EB@msi.se> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: ellmann@msi.se In <33B2248B.11EB@msi.se> Harald Ellmann wrote: > Hello, > > I have some trouble with my NeXT Colour printer. Yesterday I left the > computer for about four hours with some documents still in the printer > queue. When I returned all the documents were printed, but the orange > alarm light was on and in the display I could read: > > 72 SERVICE You are lucky that it is reliable enough that you need not babysit it like I have to, :-\ > I tried several buttons but nothing happened. I powered the printer off > and on again, but nothing happens except for both lamps (ON LINE and > ALARM) being light. No mesage in the display. > What can I do? Any help is greatly appreciated since I have to print my > thesis onm this printer and i have to do it SOON. > Thank you. > I have seen this message before, but turning off the printer for a minute will usually clear it. I have seen this message in conjuntion with heavy ink use (such as flushing the heads trying to clear a clog)... -- Robert Worne [mail to me with the URL below:] Mail: http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/email.html //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: see-url@bottom (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC Versa 4080H NEXTSTEP 3.3 installation Date: 1 Jul 1997 12:55:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5pbnak$k40@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <5omsrh$3nn$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca In <5omsrh$3nn$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca wrote: > What set of NEXTSTEP 3.3 drivers (SlimSCSI, IDE, PCMCIA bus, PCIC, > ...) have been used successfully to install NEXTSTEP 3.3 on a NEC > Versa 4080H laptop? > > Currently installation fails because the SCSI host adapter (SlimSCSI > CD-ROM) cannot be found when the system attempts to boot. The SCSI > adapter functions properly in a Windows 95 configuration on the Versa. > > Is there a sequence of installation steps that has been used > successfully to install NEXTSTEP 3.3 on the Versa 4080H laptop? > > Thank you for any information and assistance that you can provide. > One thing that gave me the most headaches installing to an NEC notebook-- (not your model, but this is worth trying...) On the notebook I installed (successfully) to: Look through the BIOS settings, there may be an entry that will enable/disable booting off of PCMCIA devices... make sure this is enabled... Cured the problem very quickly in my case... also, the display in the notebook is very well likely *not* supported by NeXT. There are 3rd party drivers available, -- Robert Worne [mail to me with the URL below:] Mail: http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/email.html //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 on Virtual PC? Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:23:05 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <33B94E68.3242@hrl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) tw@hrl.com,UseNet writes: >Connectix claims that OpenStep runs on Vitrual PC, although an earlier >post (probably on a VPC Beta) indicated some difficulties. Has anyone >tried NeXTStep 3.3 or earlier? An email to Connectix has so far brought >no response except to say that they'll get back to me. I have successfully installed 4.2 openstep on a PowerBook 3400 running vi= rtual PC. There are couple of tricks necessary to get the CD to work (rem= ember that you can't have both the CD and the floppy inserted at the same= time, and the MacOS tries to eject or format the CD). Per the manual, the optimizations that Connectix made were for Windoze so= the performance is pretty slow, but at least it lets me do some work whe= n I'm mobile... -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.cet.middlebury.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!news.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Novell NE2000 Ethernet driver found! Date: 1 Jul 1997 22:21:54 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5pbvu2$lh2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9 Beta(i) Cc: cunningh@direct.ca In cunningh@direct.ca wrote: > There was a recent post regarding a NEx000 Ethernet driver; the one from > OpenStep 3.3 (NEx000 v.97) I can confirm works on my PC running OpenStep > 4.2. There is a newer driver out there, I have heard, called NE2000 v3.0, > which allows some extra features needed for the Columbia Appletalk Package > to function. > > Anyone seen this newer v3.0 driver? Try ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/driver/intel/NE2000.tar.gz There are other goodies on this server too, for example a NS 3.3 Intel Wacom tablet driver that works :-)... -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!LF.net!not-for-mail From: "pirmin" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem w/ Toshiba 200 CDT Video Driver; Date: 1 Jul 1997 21:31:16 GMT Organization: pirmin Lines: 10 Message-ID: <01bc8677$7bbc4ee0$04662dc0@petraw95.pirmin> NNTP-Posting-Host: isdn060.stuttgart.netsurf.de X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 My Toshiba 200 CDT won't run with the CT65550 driver from Bifrost. At boot time it says "CT65550 2 MB Video detected" but immediately afterwards "_IOProbDriver: no such device" (sort of...) What am I doing wrong? Please don't tell me, it's caused by a very rare but unsupported chipset... Do you know of any working configuration? Pointer is fine. in desperation, Pirmin. at me... I have to do a ROM-monitor shutdown, which results in a longer boottime due to "fsck" fixing the filesystem. (BTW, I'm running NS3.2 on a NeXTstation Turbo with 40 MBs of RAM, 512 MB HD). problem no. 2 not really a problem but more of a nuisance; when starting apps or mini'ing folders they do not apear in the bottom-right corner but one square to the left, which leaves me puzzled because with first use, things appeared correctly. question no. 1 when in unix expert mode, I sometimes have files that have "#" before and after their names, e.g. "#.macros#", what does this exactly mean? Does this indicate some file is in use, broken or what? If it is in the manuals, I sure couldn't find it...:-) question no. 2 about system releases, what is the best system i should use on my box does 3.3 offer any (speed) improvements or should I switch to 4 ? And off course where should I get these releases cheaply? When you know any answers to the above questions please mail to: igorvo@euronet.nl Thanks in advance! Greetings, Igor ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Black Hardware rocks! Reminds me of the time when were people asking; "What the hell is that state of the art computer on your desk", pointing at my 5 year old Mac. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sol.caps.maine.edu!billc From: billc@ns1.upside.net (Chris Bill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Keyboards on a Color Turbo Date: 2 Jul 1997 01:32:00 GMT Organization: University of Maine System Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: billc.gould.pvt.k12.me.us X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 UNIX) I'm a total NeXT newbie. I just got a Color Turbo (supposedly with the ADB keyboard and mouse). The connector (on the keyboard) looks like this: /---u---\ Flattened (top) | . . | | . . | \n_____n/ When I try to turn the system on, nothing happens -- no fan whirr... nothing. So, my two questions: ... I hit the green button to turn it on, right ? :) Do I need a new/different keyboard? Thanks for *any* help... - Bill #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!remote13.server1.local.premium.dialup.unt.edu!user From: mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 on Virtual PC? Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 21:57:12 -0600 Organization: University of North Texas Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <33B94E68.3242@hrl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: remote13.server1.local.premium.dialup.unt.edu X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3fc1 I just loaded it last night on vpc1.0 runs slow, like linux on a 386 under X.... but its useable for me. In article <33B94E68.3242@hrl.com>, tw@hrl.com wrote: > Connectix claims that OpenStep runs on Vitrual PC, although an earlier > post (probably on a VPC Beta) indicated some difficulties. Has anyone > tried NeXTStep 3.3 or earlier? An email to Connectix has so far brought > no response except to say that they'll get back to me. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5pcicj$1v9$178@news.pacificrim.net> Control: cancel <5pcicj$1v9$178@news.pacificrim.net> Date: 02 Jul 1997 03:41:27 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: golightspeed.com X-Original-Date: 2 Jul 1997 03:36:51 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.oberlin.edu!occs.cs.oberlin.edu!not-for-mail From: cjs@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Miles Standish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Use MEgapixel Monitor w/ PC Date: 2 Jul 1997 05:39:45 GMT Organization: Oberlin College Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5pcpj1$u8f@news.cc.oberlin.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: occs.cs.oberlin.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Can I make a cable to use my megapixel monitor with a PC? I figure I'll only be able to use it at the same resolution as I get with a NeXT, but I'd sure like to use it with my PC. Any ideas? Thanks! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news2.jaring.my!usenet From: klkuee@pl.jaring.my (klkuee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Most complete hardware & software manufacturer's homepage Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 12:59:42 GMT Organization: Unconfigured Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33ba4d6a.2119858@news.jaring.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: j2.iph3.jaring.my X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Looking for a PC's hardware & software manufacturer's homepage? no doubt. Wait no longer. Check this out http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/8889 besides, You are be able to find latest news of PC hardware & software here, also on-line magazines, PC's trends, and many more #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!jupiter.nic.dtag.de!newsfeed.de.ibm.net!ibm.net!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newscore.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!uw.edu.pl!ict.pwr.wroc.pl!news.apk.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!195.31.190.112!news.tin.it!news From: "Jean-Claude" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP ME PLEASE Date: 22 Jun 1997 12:57:03 GMT Organization: Telecom Italia - Video On Line Lines: 29 Message-ID: <01bc7f0c$5524a010$00010101@murdock> NNTP-Posting-Host: aosta3-15.tin.it X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Hi my helper friend... i've got another problem and i'm here for ask you some help... I've downloaded the NET SURFER from a ftp site... but.... HOW CAN I LET NEXTSTEP TO SEE IT AS A PACKAGE ???!?!? the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and it have made the directory structure of the package.. but NEXTSTEP don't see it as a package.. i've tried to use UNIX command but NEXTSTEP says that cannot exctract files beacuse file name too long (???).. when you've send to me the matrox pkg. the file name was long !! but i don't remember how i have used it.. I've this problem ever when i download a file from internet under WINNT... can you take me a WEB BROWSER for NEXTSTEP and explain me to install correctly the modem, the needed protocol and the software,, to let me navigate the web... and don't disturb you no more ? THANK YOU very much. and i'm very happy to talk with you about Nextstep because i like very much that OS but i'm very beginner to that OS.. eheh.... thank you a lots.. I hope that you can help me..!! Jean-Claude murdocks@mbox.vol.it ... thank you a lots.. I hope that you can help me..!! Jean-Claude murdocks@mbox.vol.it #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!usenet From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing NS3.3 on a syquest cartridge Date: 2 Jul 1997 14:46:22 GMT Lines: 31 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5pdpju$190o@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Reply-To: atl2@lehigh.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: guava.phil.lehigh.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27360 comp.sys.next.hardware:29583 Hi all, Has anyone successfully installed NS3.3 on a syquest EZ135 cartridge? I've made several attempts, but never gotten very far. The Adaptec2940 driver on the original driver floppy wouldn't load at all. I got updated boot- and driver-disk images from NeXTAnswers, and now the SCSI driver loads and the NS installer sees my disks. However, installation inevitably crashes shortly after I select the Syquest drive (with disk inserted) as the target. I get something like: /etc/rc.cdrom [33] Memory fault /etc/rc.cdrom [34] Memory fault test: argument expected And then all processes die. Note that I have done this with BIOS enabled for removable disks, then again with BIOS enabled for removable disks only for booting. I have also set the Syquest drive (SCSI ID 4) as the boot device (in the Adaptec configuration utility). Any ideas? Cheers! Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cs.utexas.edu!news.ti.com!not-for-mail From: John Hermann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RAM for Color vs Mono NeXTstations. Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 13:55:47 -0500 Organization: Texas Instruments Lines: 12 Message-ID: <33BAA433.5FAA@msp.sc.ti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: muggy.msp.sc.ti.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/770) With the prices of the old NeXT hardward getting so low, I'm thinking about going from my mono NeXT to a color NeXT. But I don't know if the HDs and RAM SIMs I already have will work in a Color slab. Can anybody answer these questions and tell me if there are other gotchas that that I need to watch out for? Thanks. John Hermann BTW, I'm the programmer of SpaceWar.app and SolarGeek.app that I see is still available on anonymous FTP. Does anybody ever play them anymore? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: "Advanced PC" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: computer Date: 2 Jul 1997 22:01:52 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Lines: 52 Message-ID: <01bc8732$dee51180$dc7c280a@mark> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-1-31.nash.voyageronline.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 begin 600 Advanced PC sale.txt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ubject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: tlon.rockefeller.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: Jennifer Cross Message-ID: <33BB1F0F.41C6@tlon.rockefeller.edu> Sender: notes@rockyd.rockefeller.edu (News Administrator) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: The Rockefeller University References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <33B1C3CD.167E@ecel.uwa.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:39:59 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SGoldC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Lines: 15 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:77756 comp.sys.next.hardware:29586 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:31079 Jennifer Cross wrote: > about the size of the old HP200lx but > with 16mb ram, colour lcd screen, pent75 processor,770mb hd > (yes it was running win95) > the box is a toshiba libretto 50ct > and yes.. it is that small! was amazing to play with! Any idea if we can put linux on it? Unix-under-two-pounds??? Marcelo Magnasco The Rockefeller University marcelo@tlon.rockefeller.edu 1230 York Avenue, NY NY10021 http://tlon.rockefeller.edu 212 3278542 W 212 3278544 F #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Daniel B." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Use MEgapixel Monitor w/ PC Date: 3 Jul 1997 09:59:39 GMT Organization: WorldNet Lines: 45 Message-ID: <01bc8797$91dca820$8422a8c0@cube154a> References: <5pcpj1$u8f@news.cc.oberlin.edu> Reply-To: "Daniel B." NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.61.93 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 try this web page http://www.deepspacetech.com -- Daniel B. wnsup556@worldnet.att.net dbisping@students.wisc.edu hifiboywi@aol.com They said I needed Windows 3.1 or better, so I bought a Macintosh. Then they said I needed Windows 95 or better, so I bought another Macintosh. Now they tell me I need Windows NT 4.0 or better. (Sigh) I bought another Macintosh Bill Gates was applauded when he responded to a question by saying, "I think the Macintosh is going to continue to be very, very important in the educational environment for a long, long period of time." - National Educational Computing Conference '97 Miles Standish wrote in article <5pcpj1$u8f@news.cc.oberlin.edu>... > > Can I make a cable to use my megapixel monitor with a PC? > > I figure I'll only be able to use it at the same resolution as I get > with a NeXT, but I'd sure like to use it with my PC. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks! > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eerie.fr!cnusc.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!jussieu.fr!not-for-mail From: Paul WINDEY Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which laptop works? Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 12:41:04 +0200 Organization: Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Lines: 20 Message-ID: <33BB81C0.C0C129BD@lpthe.jussieu.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5C (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Hello, I would like to install NextStep on a notebook. If you have done so successfully and recently (machines with 133 Mhz or 166) could you please e-mail me the brand name and model with comments if something was tricky? Thanks a lot -- Paul Windey, LPTHE Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Bte 126 4pl Jussieu F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr tel: 33-01-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121) FAX: 33-01-4427 73 93 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!gtnduss1.du.gtn.com!not-for-mail From: Michael Pieper Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation trouble Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 18:43:30 -0400 Organization: SerCon GmbH Lines: 49 Message-ID: <33BAD992.5E46@sercon.de> References: <33B993B8.2C4C@dds.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: sercon04.gun.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) Robbin wrote: > > problem no. 1 > > machine refuses to shut down (really!), workspacemanager quits and the > mouse disappears but then nothing happens, it just sits there with a > grey screen staring at me... > I have to do a ROM-monitor shutdown, which results in a longer boottime > due to "fsck" fixing the filesystem. (BTW, I'm running NS3.2 on a > NeXTstation Turbo with 40 MBs of RAM, 512 MB HD). Ther is a process running which can't be killed. Close all apps and try a ps -aux to see what is still running before shutdown. > problem no. 2 > > not really a problem but more of a nuisance; when starting apps or > mini'ing folders they do not apear in the bottom-right corner but one > square to the left, which leaves me puzzled because with first use, > things appeared correctly. You minimized a window and hided its application after this. If you unhide the app, there will be a window icon again. > question no. 1 > > when in unix expert mode, I sometimes have files that have "#" before > and after their names, e.g. "#.macros#", what does this exactly mean? > Does this indicate some file is in use, broken or what? If it is in the > manuals, I sure couldn't find it...:-) These are backup copies of edited files (don't know the editor). Normally in one of the scripts in /usr/admin which are run regularly, these files are destroyed. > question no. 2 > > about system releases, what is the best system i should use on my box > does 3.3 offer any (speed) improvements or should I switch to 4 ? If you don't need 4.2 because you want to develope for OS, stay with 3.2. 3.3 does not offer so much improvements (Mail.app is the best improvement). 3.3 and 4.2 are slower than 3.2. Michael (posting with Netscape because my Station does not start anymore. Who has tips to repair the power supply?) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!feeder.chicago.cic.net!ftpbox.mot.com!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: RAM for Color vs Mono NeXTstations. Date: 3 Jul 1997 13:39:47 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5pga33$t8s@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <33BAA433.5FAA@msp.sc.ti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: legume186134.nuts.nwu.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) John Hermann wrote: > BTW, I'm the programmer of SpaceWar.app and SolarGeek.app that > I see is still available on anonymous FTP. Does anybody ever > play them anymore? Once in a blue moon. But I gladly keep them around. Thanks! Cloning is the sincerest |=================================================== form of flattery. | Joshua W Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu -- Lazarus Long |=================================================== #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!btnet-feed3!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news.IAEhv.nl!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!europa.clark.net!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!news.inc.net!not-for-mail From: Andrew Spencer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR NEXT BLACK HARDWARE Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 10:43:43 -0500 Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. http://www.inc.net usenet@news.inc.net Lines: 13 Message-ID: <33BBC8AF.12046C97@e-net.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: braindamager.e-net.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) V.P. DiMascio wrote: > anyone know where to start? > > thanks > vince there's a site at http://www.deepspacetech.com that sells black hardware for pretty good prices. I'm not affiliated with them, but I encourage you to check out their site. -Andrew #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!philabs!blanket.mitre.org!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Keyboards on a Color Turbo Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:22:02 GMT Lines: 30 In article billc@ns1.upside.net (Chris Bill) writes: > > I'm a total NeXT newbie. I just got a Color Turbo (supposedly with the > ADB keyboard and mouse). The connector (on the keyboard) looks like > this: > /---u---\ Flattened (top) > | . . | > | . . | > \n_____n/ > > When I try to turn the system on, nothing happens -- no fan whirr... > nothing. > > So, my two questions: > ... I hit the green button to turn it on, right ? :) > Do I need a new/different keyboard? > Let's try some more conservative steps first ;-) The NeXT machines have a lithium battery inside that powers the real time clock, boot settings NOVRAM, and the power switch. This battery might be spent. It can be easily replaced with the help of regular Philips screwdriver. A replacement can be bought in any camera store... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: RAM for Color vs Mono NeXTstations. Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33BAA433.5FAA@msp.sc.ti.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:32:06 GMT Lines: 24 In article <33BAA433.5FAA@msp.sc.ti.com> John Hermann writes: > With the prices of the old NeXT hardward getting so low, I'm > thinking about going from my mono NeXT to a color NeXT. But > I don't know if the HDs and RAM SIMs I already have will work > in a Color slab. Can anybody answer these questions and tell > me if there are other gotchas that that I need to watch out > for? Thanks. > There is a difference between Turbo and normal models. Turbos use 72 pin PS2 memory modules, the regular ones 30 pin modules. So if you want higher speed you need different memory modules. The SCSI bus is just the same, so anything that works on a regular model will work on a Turbo, no matter whether Color or not. Additional source of info: NeXTAnswers and the FAQ on Peanuts -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!smartdna!news.io.com!not-for-mail From: ix@xanadu.io.com (Lupo LeBoucher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a such thing as a COLOR PALMTOP? Date: 3 Jul 1997 19:30:26 GMT Organization: Illuminati Online Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5pguki$isq$1@nntp-3.io.com> References: <5o3g0q$9dk$2@news.sas.ab.ca> <33B1C3CD.167E@ecel.uwa.edu.au> <33BB1F0F.41C6@tlon.rockefeller.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: xanadu.io.com X-Newsposter: trn 4.0-test56 (2 Mar 97) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:77802 comp.sys.next.hardware:29594 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:31090 In article <33BB1F0F.41C6@tlon.rockefeller.edu>, Marcelo Magnasco wrote: >Jennifer Cross wrote: >> about the size of the old HP200lx but >> with 16mb ram, colour lcd screen, pent75 processor,770mb hd >> (yes it was running win95) > >> the box is a toshiba libretto 50ct >> and yes.. it is that small! was amazing to play with! > > >Any idea if we can put linux on it? Unix-under-two-pounds??? Yes, it's been done. There was a tiny IBM palmtop (PC something or other) with a 486 which also had Linux running on it. Problem with both machines is that they are only available in Japan, though there are import companies which can get them for you in the US, they will come with Japanese OS's & keyboards (and manuals, and support). -Lupo "In dee wiyuld, wee are primarily carneeevorous" #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!unixg.ubc.ca!godwin From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: RAM for Color vs Mono NeXTstations. Date: 2 Jul 1997 19:52:18 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5pebhi$qoj$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <33BAA433.5FAA@msp.sc.ti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo1.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] If it is a plain jane color everything should move over okay max mem is 32 If it is a turbo color you only have 4 slots but max memory is 128MB depending on board rev on the plain jane you might get one that is max 128 too Godwin John Hermann (jhermann@msp.sc.ti.com) wrote: : With the prices of the old NeXT hardward getting so low, I'm : thinking about going from my mono NeXT to a color NeXT. But : I don't know if the HDs and RAM SIMs I already have will work : in a Color slab. Can anybody answer these questions and tell : me if there are other gotchas that that I need to watch out : for? Thanks. : John Hermann : BTW, I'm the programmer of SpaceWar.app and SolarGeek.app that : I see is still available on anonymous FTP. Does anybody ever : play them anymore? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!207.167.64.6!news.znet.com!not-for-mail From: "Ronald A. Edwards" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: Color Station w/ printer Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 16:19:25 -0700 Organization: University of Minnesota Lines: 23 Message-ID: <33BC337D.693E@atlas.socsci.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sjts2-96.znet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:18177 comp.sys.next.hardware:29596 As a university user I have the following NeXT system for sale: NeXT Color Station (25MHz) 32M RAM 400M Hard drive 21" Color monitor Non-ADB sound box Keyboard & Mouse NEXTSTEP 3.3 * NeXT B/W Laser Printer Software includes Wordperfect Lotus Improv Write Mathematica TeX/LaTeX/Instant TeX Mesa spreadsheet ... Price: $1000 or best offer + shipping COD #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.psrinc.com!not-for-mail From: Information Subject: Metrics Message-ID: <737cd$11318.2c4@news.psrinc.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 01:49:08 GMT Reply-To: Great Site Lines: 2 Great Site URL:http://www.psrinc.com/metsys.htm #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!not-for-mail From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How Can I print from a Window95 PC to a Next Printer over a LAN? Date: 4 Jul 1997 01:47:52 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5phko8$j9n$1@news.seicom.net> References: <33B58D44.7C2251CD@ibm.net> <5p69mn$mgg$2@bashir.peak.org> <01bc85d2$fdd125e0$03ac2ac0@cupertino> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Heath Tucker" wrote: > I am trying to print from Win95 computers to my NeXT Laser also. I got > Samba. The trouble is that I can't get Samba to compile :( I am running > NS 3.3 User/Developer on a '040 cube. > Can anyone who has gotten Samba working post their makefile or email me > with some details/hints/suggestions? I know nothing about compiling under > Unix really and am lost. The docs that come with Samba aren't helping me > out (they seem to assume that I can get it to compile) and I don't have > much info on how to use the Developer side of NS either. As always any > help is greatly appreciated. > A ready-to-install Quad-FAT binary version of Samba is available (beside a lot other stuff) on my Download page . Just point your browser to http://www.this.net/~frank and follow the links. --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nextjoe@aol.com (NeXTJoe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Keyboards on a Color Turbo Date: 4 Jul 1997 02:13:20 GMT Lines: 44 Message-ID: <19970704021300.WAA04100@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: yes, your keyboard is ADB. non-adb boards have a black power button rather than green. most likely the battery on your motherboard simply is dead. 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Huelf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RhapsodyPreview offer: NeXTstationPyroColor 50Mhz - 17" Date: 3 Jul 1997 19:43:56 GMT Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5pgvdt$f68@news.ppp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.233.181.2 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Wer kann nicht mehr warten und moechte einen Vorgeschmack auf die Rhapsody-Zukunft? Hier ist die schnellste NeXT-Maschine die man kriegen kann: NeXTstation Pyro Color 50 Mhz (schneller als vergleichbare 50Mhz- 68k Macs) 32MB RAM PS/2 - 700 MB HD wahlweise mit 3.3 Developer oder 4.0 User installiert, viel NeXT-Software 17" NeXT MegaPixel Display frei Haus mit Installation im Hamburger Raum Drawback: Der Ethernet/Netzwerkanschluss hat keine Funktion mehr = Stand alone System VB DM 3800,-- Bitte bei Interesse e-mail senden.... stefan@huelf.hamburg.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.1.48.12!newsfeed.usit.net!news1.acsi.net!news.sunqest.com!opus1.com!storm.lightning.net!nac!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!rzunews.unizh.ch!orc.studi.unizh.ch!swagner Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: b/w megaPixel alignement? Message-ID: <5ouakm$gki@rzunews.unizh.ch> From: swagner@studi1.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) Date: 26 Jun 1997 17:58:46 GMT Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland NNTP-Posting-Host: orc.studi.unizh.ch X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 16 my newly bought MegaPixel display, b/w, has an annoying feature... in the top left corner, the borders are curved.. just there, and it has nothing to do with surrounding magnetic fields... is that a feature inherent to the monitors, as my supplier told me, because of their calibration in japan, or can it be opened and readjusted (please give me instructions then) ... or is my leg being pulled and I have to give the monitor back??? cu simon -- Dogshit and women have something in common ... the older they get, the easier they are to pick up!' -Al Bundy #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gumby!newspump.wustl.edu!cnn.Princeton.EDU!usenet From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any caveats on OS4.2 and PII systems (esp. Quantex)? Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:14:04 GMT Organization: Princeton University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5pj0fc$qpi$2@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Reply-To: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) NNTP-Posting-Host: zandtwerk.princeton.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) I am thinking about getting a PII 233 mz system from Quantex, with a matrox (either mystique, millenium or millenium II) video, 4mg, and Yamaha on-board sound (same sound Dell uses for its PII). Any warnings about problems installing OS 4.2?? Thanks. Tim #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!wileypost!gxa114 From: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT MIDI problem. Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:37:55 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5pj1s3$1e92@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wileypost.cac.psu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:30188 comp.sys.next.hardware:29604 Im trying to get Sequence working on my NeXTStation 040/NON-ADB, but am having some difficulty. I made the custom cables according to the info in the "man zs" document (040-030 cable) When I run Sequence, I get a "Cannot acquire MIDI Resources" for both port A and port B. The interface is a Opcode Studio3. The OS is Nextstep 3.3, and is a fresh install with nothing but the OS and Sequence. Is this a cable problem, or are my serial ports both fried? Maybe I need some software installed that I dont know about. Thanks for the help. Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeOS Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!mmfcancel!cyberspam!chainsaw Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <33bcb180.0@news.genesisnetwork.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <33bcb180.0@news.genesisnetwork.net> no reply ignore Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 16:55:23 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: a X-Orig-Date: 4 Jul 97 08:17:04 GMT Sender: a16@a.a X-Orig-Subject: $$$$ DO YOU HATE YOUR JOB?? $$$$ Lines: 2 ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: b/w megaPixel alignement? Date: 1 Jul 1997 14:54:27 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5pb5n3$210s@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5ouakm$gki@rzunews.unizh.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: geyser.chem.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) swagner@studi1.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) wrote: >my newly bought MegaPixel display, b/w, has an annoying feature... >in the top left corner, the borders are curved.. >just there, and it has nothing to do with >surrounding magnetic fields... >is that a feature inherent to the monitors, as my supplier told me, >because of their calibration in japan, or can it be opened and >readjusted (please give me instructions then) ... or is my leg >being pulled and I have to give the monitor back??? Yes, your monitor is curved because it was calibrated in Japan. Its a comman problem with all monitors and TV's made in Japen. Its caused by the same thing that makes water goes down the drain other way. Oppps, but Japan is in the Northern hemisphere too! Hmm, I'd better check my facts again... :-) Your supplier is "wrong" [is that too strong a word?] You could pull the back off the MegaPixel and adjust things yourself but BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL - there's more than enough voltage in there to easily kill yourself if you screw up! Check the FAQ for instructions. There is no inherent problem with NeXT monitors that makes them curve in the top left corner, or any corner for that matter. But these monitors are getting old and many develop a variety visual defects over time, eg dimming, loss of focus, tilt, etc. Some can be compenstated for by internal adjustments, some can't. - Gareth #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: meson1@aol.com (Meson1) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Date: 5 Jul 1997 08:53:23 GMT Lines: 14 Message-ID: <19970705085301.EAA23312@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com OK, gang. I just got a NeXTstation (25mhz) and the thing won't boot. I've checked the memory on another machine and it seems to be OK. The hard drive seems to be spinning and reading for a few seconds anyway. Monitor has a slight glow, but otherwise no display. Any clues? This is my first NeXT (having lusted after one for years) so I am fairly clueless in the NeXT regard. Thanks, Michael #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.246.124.37!nntp.newsfirst.com!nntp.crosslink.net!not-for-mail From: gregor@crosslink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: (Was: b/w megaPixel alignement?) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 5 Jul 1997 13:36:24 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5pliko$ig2$1@kronos.crosslink.net> Reply-To: gregor@crosslink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.246.65.162 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) Cc: swagner@studi1.unizh.ch NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE In <5pb5n3$210s@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu wrote: > swagner@studi1.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) wrote: > >my newly bought MegaPixel display, b/w, has an annoying feature... > >in the top left corner, the borders are curved.. > >just there, and it has nothing to do with > >surrounding magnetic fields... > >is that a feature inherent to the monitors, as my supplier told me, > >because of their calibration in japan, or can it be opened and > >readjusted (please give me instructions then) ... or is my leg > >being pulled and I have to give the monitor back??? There are manuals on how to do this, but as regular peons who don't work for Bell Atlantic/Decision One, YOU can't get one. Decision One bought the rights from NeXT, andhave the manuals, but refuse to sell or make them available. They will, however, for a considerable fee, align it for you. Any competent TV repair shop should be able to make it almost perfect, though,, It's just that they wont have the equipment to generate the test patterns they are used to working with. So if you want it done, carry in your slab, keyboard and mouse to the shop. I got around this by using Appsoft Draw to reproduce the dot convergence pattern, horizontal/vertical banding tests, etc, There are so few pots on the mono megapixel, that it is relatively easy for a technician to figure out what does what. best regards Gregor #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!news-relay.ncren.net!unc-cs!fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!gibbs!smyth From: smyth@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Richard Smyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware Date: 5 Jul 1997 16:54:13 GMT Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Lines: 113 Message-ID: <5plu7l$gs$1@fddinewz.oit.unc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gibbs.oit.unc.edu Keywords: Command Key, grayscale, drivers, OPENSTEP, NT, Solaris (NOTE: this was posted last night on comp.sys.next.misc, but John Kheit thought it should be in comp.sys.next.hardware. Sorry. NBS) I am a long-time user of NeXTSTEP on black hardware and am looking to build an "OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware" system. I don't visit comp.sys.next.hardware on a regular basis, so please be patient if the following questions are well known to the group. 1) On black hardware, my left pinky is glued to the "Command" key (Command Cut, Command Copy, Command Paste, etc.) What does one do for a Command key on PC keyboards? I assume there must be some sort of keyboard re-mapping feature, which would, say, re-map the "Windows 95" key to function as a Command key. I would like to find a keyboard with such an extra key immediately beneath the "Z" key, so that the left pinky need move only up and down when it travels from Z to Command and back. Owing to carpal tunnel syndrome, or repetitive motion disorder, or whatever you want to call it, I find that the slightest left-right motion of the pinky becomes excruciatingly painful over time; for this reason, I find the "Ctrl" key on most PC keyboards to be unusable. If you know of a keyboard that solves the problem of the Command key, please post the manufacturer name, the model number, and a distribution source. 2) I much prefer grayscale monitors to color monitors, and I found the old 2-bit PostScript grayscale particularly charming. I know of four name-brand grayscale monitors: A) the Cornerstone DualPage 20-92 and 21-92 16-bit grayscale monitors, powered by the Cornerstone ImageAccel 2040/76 grayscale video card (www.corimage.com) B) the Artist Graphics NetVision 2016GS 16-bit grayscale monitor, powered by the Artist Graphics NetVision 2000i or 2500i video cards (www.artgraphics.com) C) the Eizo-Nanao FlexScan 6600 20-bit grayscale monitor (www.eizo.com) The Cornerstone and Artist Graphics cards come with drivers for 3.1/95/NT and OS/2, but no other operating systems. I am told that the Cornerstone monitors use a proprietary cable and that they must be driven by the Cornerstone card. The Artist Graphics monitor has a standard VGA cable and might be able to be driven by a standard VGA card, while the Eizo-Nanao monitor was designed to be driven by any VGA card running any driver. Unfortunately, the Eizo-Nanao monitor I saw did not produce what I would call a grayscale image; it was more of a creamy brown, although it was being powered by a color driver at the time, which might have made a difference. Does anyone have experience with grayscale monitors and "OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware"? Does NeXT provide some sort of universal 16-bit grayscale driver that will power all cards? Are there other grayscale monitors that I should consider? Any advice would be most appreciated. 3) The drivers problem, continued: The drivers on the NeXT hardware compatibility list seem to apply to devices that are about 12 to 18 months out of date. Among SCSI controllers, Net Express (www.tdl.com/~netex) recommends the BusLogic 958-C, about which the NeXT hardware compatibility list says "BusLogic 958 PCI Wide SCSI Host Adapter (not tested, reported to work)." Does this mean that BusLogic wrote a driver for this card but that NeXT hasn't tested the driver, or does it mean that a NeXT driver for some older BusLogic product ought to power this more recent BusLogic product? If the latter, how often does this principle apply? For instance: A) Will the NeXT drivers for the Adaptec 2940UW power the Adaptec 3940UW? B) Will the NeXT drivers for the Matrox Millenium power the Matrox Millenium II? C) Will the NeXT drivers for the Sound Blaster 32-bit series power the Sound Blaster 64-bit series? As for communications, what does one do for voice/fax modem cards and their drivers? How does one set up an answering machine/fax modem combination? Is this supported out of the box, or am I expected to write the code? How does "OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware" behave with the US Robotics x2 56kbps products? Finally, the hardware compatibility list doesn't seem to have a driver for NE2000-compatible ethernet cards. What gives? 4) After one has spent a little time confronting the drivers problem, an inescapable conclusion is reached: Within a few years, there will be only one operating system. The Wall Street Journal had an article the other day (WSJ, 7-1-97, p. B6) which indicated that Apple's worldwide market share fell to 3% in the first quarter. Frankly, I am afraid that we are witnessing the end of the whole NeXT experiment, but maybe there is some hope to be offered by OPENSTEP. I have never seen this product, so perhaps the group could answer a few questions. Does OPENSTEP for NT take control from the Win95/Explorer interface so as to give the look and feel of NeXTSTEP? The parts of NeXTSTEP I use the most are Edit, WriteNow, Digital Librarian, Digital Webster, the Workspace File Viewer, the TeX support, the Stuart shell, and of course the development tools. I guess the Stuart shell is probably a little too dependent on the operating system to make sense in other environments, although it would be appreciated. How much of the other stuff persists? Does OPENSTEP provide a Window Server? Do NT OPENSTEP objects (windows, buttons, scroll bars, icons, etc.) look like Microsoft objects, or do they look like NeXT objects? I have heard that OPENSTEP for Solaris is pretty nice. Again: Does it take control of the user interface? If so, is there an OPENSTEP for Solaris on Intel Hardware? How about support for the new Solaris, version 2.6? (Of course, OPENSTEP for Solaris will not be much of an alternative if the future offers only the one operating system...) Thank you all for any advice or suggestions you can offer.  #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: RAM for Color vs Mono NeXTstations. Date: 4 Jul 1997 18:17:22 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5pjeni$1re4@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <33BAA433.5FAA@msp.sc.ti.com> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f183-164.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) John Hermann wrote: >With the prices of the old NeXT hardward getting so low, I'm >thinking about going from my mono NeXT to a color NeXT. But >I don't know if the HDs and RAM SIMs I already have will work >in a Color slab. Can anybody answer these questions and tell >me if there are other gotchas that that I need to watch out >for? Thanks. Personally, I'd go for a Turbo Color rather than a a non-Turbo Color, especially since the price difference is trivial. DeepSpaceTech has Turbo Colors for $395 + s&h, without RAM or a HD but with a _very_ nice Sony Trinitron monitor. Add $110 for 32MB 72-pin RAM and use your old hard disk. Given RAM is so cheap these days I wouldn't be too concerned about not being able to use your 30-pin RAM in the Turbo. Buying a Turbo Color now will give you a year or two more useful life on your system than if you bought a non-Turbo Color, which easily makes up for the cost difference. Not to mention that non-Turbo's max out at 32MB (which is about the minimum I'd recommend for running OPENSTEP 4.x,) whereas Turbo's go up to 128MB. If you want to go black, a Turbo Color gives the best bang for your buck! My $0.02, - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.136.1.211!news.cwi.net!news2.mnsinc.com!news1.mnsinc.com!usenet From: Robert Anderson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: This news group is invited to a Secret online book ! All Ages Welcome! Date: 5 Jul 1997 17:12:09 GMT Organization: Anderson Services Lines: 17 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5plv99$im1@news1.mnsinc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bigred.1bigred.com You are about to learn how ordinary people can simply and easily achieve the once thought un-achievable. These Secrets will work for anyone. 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Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <5pliko$ig2$1@kronos.crosslink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Any early b/w displays I've seen had that little distortion in the upper left hand corner. Some more than others - I was able to get a pretty clean one from NeXT by complaining. Don't know about distortion in the final ADB version. While we used to have repair manuals, they didn't cover monitor alignment. I was told that NeXT simply returned the hardware to Sony for that sort of work. Barney #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!globalcenter1!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: paul@server.pth.com (Paul R. 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Thanks RAZ in London #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-was.dfn.de!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news.noaa.gov!newsfeed.gsfc.nasa.gov!nick.arc.nasa.gov!enews.sgi.com!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Sender: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <61d7cd$123a2c.1d@NEWS> Control: cancel <61d7cd$123a2c.1d@NEWS> Date: 29 Jun 1997 23:49:44 GMT Message-ID: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Subject: World Wide Free Internet Access . X-Original-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 00:58:44 GMT X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 4 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!208.216.0.2!news.miracle.net!not-for-mail From: ftr45r@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: writers=seeking=publication Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:36:31 Organization: Miracle Net Communications, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5posbs$67e$5664@roadrunner.miracle.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip106.an15-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are a New York based international literary agency with two branch offices, one of which is in* Florida. 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Since the #2 m'board will not be in its customary location, the OD cable will need to travel to the front of the cube, around the edge of m'board #1, double back to the power supply, reach under the OD dust filter and plug in as usual. To do this comfortably I will need a cable approximately 30"/ 78cm long. Does anyone have any recommendations re: a source for this? Or an outfit that would be able to make one (or two)? Thanks in advance for your suggestions! -- ******************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, NeXTMail OK #################################################################### Date: 6 Jul 1997 20:16:47 GMT Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!News1.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!van-bc!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-by: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: dre32d@msn.com Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5pod49$47k$824@roadrunner.miracle.net> Control: cancel <5pod49$47k$824@roadrunner.miracle.net> X-No-Archive: Yes X-Spam-Type: WOODSIDE Lines: 7 WOODSIDE spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: sell/your/photos$$$$$ Total spams this type to date: 7583 Total this spam type for this user: 2329 Total this spam type for this user today: 2329 Originating site: miracle.net Complaint addresses: postmaster@miracle.net abuse@psi.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!brie.direct.ca!cunningham From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Crystalware CS4232 Audio drivers for Windows 95 Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 14:26:08 -0800 Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <01bc8a33$574a8d00$3d27cdc2@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: van-as-05a09.direct.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 In article <01bc8a33$574a8d00$3d27cdc2@default>, "RAZ" wrote: > Can someone help me by advising me on where I may be able to gain access to > the Crystal Ware CS4232 windows'95 version of Audio/Sound Card drivers. > > Thanks > > RAZ in London www.crysal.com sometimes, it's just *too* easy, isn't it? :> Ken -- remove [nospam] from email address to send me email please #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!mis2!worldnet.att.net!201.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Install Q: IDE HD and IDE CD Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 17:43:06 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.62.201 Reading the Openstep 4.1 docs it looks like I need a SCSI CD ROM in order to install. 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It is an SCSI EISA machine with a 3C509 Ethernet card. My understanding is that it is not possible to use a 3C509 card with NS/OS. Could someone recomend a replacement ethernet card compatible with SCSI/EISA hardware? (I'm considering installing NS 3.3 or OS 4.1 and making it a Zilla server for C compling. If the experiment with the M machine turns out to be successful I may replace it with a faster PC.) Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!199.242.16.13!news4.ixa.net!ixa.net!news.pacificrim.net!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: golightspeed.com Date: 7 Jul 1997 02:41:26 GMT Organization: Lightspeed Technology Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5ppl0m$sa5$52@news.pacificrim.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: whatcom-ppp369.pacificrim.net X-Server-Date: 7 Jul 1997 02:41:26 GMT Lightspeed Technology invites you to visit http://www.golightspeed.com for a look at some of today's best built laptop computers. Lightspeed is currently selling the 7200, 6200, and 8700 series notebooks. The 7200 has been dubbed "The Ultimate Portable" and lives up to its name. 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As I read the specs, color turbos use 12 bits of color info for every screen pixel. Is that right? Thanks, Carl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Jason Heideloff" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeoMagic MagicGraph 128V Date: 7 Jul 1997 03:42:29 GMT Organization: Sherwin-Williams Company Lines: 6 Message-ID: <01bc8aa0$fff24840$f54193cf@jgh01p.sherwin.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.65.245 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Does anyone know if there is a compatible driver available for this adapter for NS 3.3 or OpenStep for mach? Please email responses to jgheideloff@sherwin.com. Thanks! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news1.best.com!news.idiom.com!not-for-mail From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How many bits in Color Turbo? Date: 6 Jul 1997 21:24:54 -0700 Organization: Idiom Communications Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5ppr2m$mu8@idiom.com> References: <33BFFCAA.14D4@primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: idiom.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #1 "Carl A. Carlson" writes: >I have been thinking of replacing my mono station with a color turbo. >As I read the specs, color turbos use 12 bits of color info for every >screen pixel. Is that right? Yes. The color gamut available in a neXt slab is 16 levels per primary, giving 4096 colors alltogether. -jcr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news2.jaring.my!usenet From: klkuee@pl.jaring.my (klkuee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Most complete hardware & software manufacturer's homepage Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 04:30:27 GMT Organization: Unconfigured Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33be4bc4.889858@news.jaring.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: j34.iph13.jaring.my X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Looking for a PC's hardware & software manufacturer's homepage? no doubt. Wait no longer. Check this out http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/8889 besides, You are be able to find latest news of PC hardware & software here, also on-line magazines, PC's trends, and many more #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any similiarity between the OD and an apple floppy? Date: 7 Jul 1997 00:34:19 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5pprkb$cfu@umbc10.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc10.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: bhurle1 I noticed that the optical drive of a cube and a macintosh floppy drive both use 20pin cables to connect them. Since the OD isn't scsi, I assume, anyone know if there is any similiarity? like connecting a mac floppy to a cube? bryan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!News1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!News4.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: webmaster@jpl.nasa.gov Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: !Most Recent Mars Photos&Info! 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Once again; http://38.217.84.11/~nasa2/marspath.html Thanks for your patience, and thank you to the 100 Million visitors we've had already. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!iagnews.iagnet.net!bad-news.harborcom.net!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!peace!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1040 unformatted = 864 formatted? Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:38:15 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 18 Message-ID: Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@peace X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.periphs.scsi:81776 comp.sys.next.hardware:29629 I've got a MicroPolis drive that is 1040megs unformated. When I format it now, I get 864megs. I'm pretty sure I had 991 megs last time, but I don't know what I did differently this time. I had to reformat to get rid of some partitioning and wanted to start with a clean slate. I realize this is bare bones information, but what might I try to improve the disk size? This will be a boot drive for OpenStep 4.1 Thanks TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!News1.Vancouver.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!azure.xara.net!xara.net!news-feed1.globalnet.co.uk!kew.globalnet.co.uk!usenet From: "kevan" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wave excel sound card Date: 7 Jul 1997 06:15:38 GMT Lines: 9 Message-ID: <01bc8a9c$f88aaba0$LocalHost@kevan> NNTP-Posting-Host: client8472.globalnet.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 -- Kevan Thompson any help please i have a ad-chips wave excel sound card that i have put on a tx motherboard and am running ver 4.00 950B win95 the microphone volume control is not working and i have no conflicts in device manager has anyone any simular problems as i need this to work for iphone. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!208.216.0.2!news.miracle.net!not-for-mail From: cdr43a@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: *writers/seeking/publication Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 04:10:23 Organization: Miracle Net Communications, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5pq8he$o9u$6268@roadrunner.miracle.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip106.an15-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are a New York based international literary agency with two branch offices, one of which is in Florida. We are seeking new and previously published authors, so please adhere to the following guidelines. All fiction: send brief synopsis, first chapter, and include a self addressed, stamped envelope (SASE). All nonfiction: brief synopsis, first chapter, SASE. Short Stories: brief synopsis, 3 pages, SASE. Poetry: send 3 poems, SASE. Please do not send complete manuscript unless we ask for it. 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See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Mon Jul 7 11:57:39 1997 Original subject was: !!!!1!14 DAY FREE TRIAL VIRTUAL OFFICE!!!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!ts18-13.dublin.indigo.ie!user From: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI HD on a Nextstation Date: 7 Jul 1997 10:52:42 GMT Organization: Paul O Neill Designs Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ts18-13.dublin.indigo.ie I have aquired a seagate medalist Pro 2GB hard disk (ST52160N) and would like to install it in my NextStation Color, however before I try I would like to make sure that the settings are right. I know it should be set to SCSI ID 1, but can anyone tell me should I: (1) Enable or disable the internal terminator. (2) Enable or disable Parity. (3) Enable or disable 'Remote Start'. Thanks in advance, Paul. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news.grnet.gr!btnet-feed3!unlisys!cs.tu-berlin.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!swt16!1kyriaki From: 1kyriaki@swt16.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Valentino Kyriakides) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which Faxmodems work together with NXFax? Date: 7 Jul 1997 16:23:02 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5pr556$93l$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: swt16.informatik.uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I would like to know which actual faxmodems are known to work well together with NXFax under NS 3.3??? I know that the USR modems don't work with NXFax under NS, since they don't support class 2 fax (however they support class 2.0) as expected by NXFax. What's with a ZyXEL Omni 288 S V.34, ELSA MicroLink 33.6 TQV or ELSA MicroLink 33.6 TS, can somebody report his experiences with one of these faxmodems to me. In general I'am interested in a list or naming of NXFax supported V 34+ faxmodems. Thanks in advance Valentino -- Valentino Kyriakides Email: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!Frankfurt.Germany.EU.net!Munich.Germany.EU.net!ibm.de!mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com!not-for-mail From: Henry Koplien Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing NS3.3 on a syquest cartridge Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:16:33 +0200 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Lines: 51 Message-ID: <33BB43C1.167E@vnet.ibm.com> References: <5pdpju$190o@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: mc03.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; AIX 1) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27437 comp.sys.next.hardware:29635 Alex Levine wrote: > > Hi all, > > Has anyone successfully installed NS3.3 on a syquest EZ135 cartridge? > I've made several attempts, but never gotten very far. The Adaptec2940 > driver on the original driver floppy wouldn't load at all. I got updated > boot- and driver-disk images from NeXTAnswers, and now the SCSI driver > loads and the NS installer sees my disks. > > However, installation inevitably crashes shortly after I select the > Syquest drive (with disk inserted) as the target. I get something like: > > /etc/rc.cdrom [33] Memory fault > /etc/rc.cdrom [34] Memory fault > test: argument expected > > And then all processes die. Note that I have done this with BIOS enabled > for removable disks, then again with BIOS enabled for removable disks only > for booting. I have also set the Syquest drive (SCSI ID 4) as the boot > device (in the Adaptec configuration utility). > > Any ideas? Yes, I have a running bootable EZ135, called "EmergencyDisk". I have a full graphical Interface with 25MBytes left on the device. I start my system from this device if I want to do a clean system dump of my disks. They have therefore to be unmounted... I tackled several month with 1.44 floppys before without success. I was close to the aim but I then switched to a Syquest. What I have done... (I think the way You want to do the installation is not common) I have made an installation on a normal disk. Afterwards I made a bootable disk from the existing OS. I believe You have no chance to make a small installation on the Syuest media. (You don't know exactly which drivers to load at the very first installation, I have only the ones really needed on the Syquest.) If You running into further problems doing it this way fell free to contact me. Henry ----------- http://www.ti6.tu-harburg.de/~ti6hk/index.html ------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany voice : +49-7031-16-3516 \|/ fax : +49-7031-16-3328 o(O O)o voice,BBS & fax : +49-7031-276113 (private) \ / ------------------ Email: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com ----ooOo---(_)---oOoo--- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "M. Andrew Minkin" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac/DOS/Win95->NeXT floppy formatting utlity Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 01:18:25 +0000 Organization: Archaeus Design Systems Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33C043D8.777F@rocketmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.168.90.169 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) I have the 266_EIDE.pkg from NeXT and would like to put it on a floppy that the Mach kernel installation will read, but I only have a Power Mac 6100/60 and a P133 with 24MB running Win95 ( I tried installing OpenStep Enterprise but I couldn't run anything). Any suggestions? #################################################################### Control: cancel <5pq6it$d962302@odin.telapex.com> Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!bounce-back From: nomore@warrrr.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5pq6it$d962302@odin.telapex.com> Date: 07 Jul 97 20:38:58 GMT Organization: SPUTUM.ORGANIZATION Lines: 1 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tfx-us4-15.ix.netcom.com Article cancelled by news@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!News1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!News4.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI Rage Support in OPENSTEP 4.x Date: 8 Jul 1997 03:15:02 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5psbbm$qqk$1@news.istar.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts4-01.edm.istar.ca X-Image-URL: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul/Images/jsamsonFace.jpg X-Face: 1*GzPq3qC*-k]Mo9Zy,N+dV)v(nK&1}T@#^>/w.2-V0j9H{-;bW\mWo{:wOb5=.)/r>VmWT|vWZ\M"N/l1fV;U0J3G]<:RzDpwT{=p:fzhOl/%ub6ma2xY;k\Zt6]&`I2[zCYE#61U3ip_Ac<}WUQ}b[z%h^-@?1c]G=(wS66N+yzq NNTP-Posting-Host: oneclick.vip.best.com I just rented a Compaq DeskPro 5133 and am trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody). I've read every NeXTAnswer and c.s.n.h post that seems relevant, and "Installing and Configuring OpenStep", but I'm stuck. Here's the config: Deskpro 5133 with non-SCSI hard drive (IDE or ATA, I'm not sure), Adaptec AHA 1540CF/1542CF PCI SCSI adapter, and NEC SCSI 6x CD-ROM (ID'd by the Adaptec as "NEC CD DRIVE 461"). I've configured the Adaptec DIP switches and driver settings per NextAnswers 1108. When I install OpenStep, for CD-ROM I select driver "Adaptec 154x Series SCSI Adapter (v4.01)". For hard drive I select "EIDE and ATAPI Device controller (v4.01)". The first few tries, the big white window (Mach kernel??) opened and seemed to recognize the hard disk (showing block formats and the 2GB capacity), but then it said "No SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive found - use sd%d, hd%d, fd%d, er%d, or tr%d - root device?" I tried various other combinations of drivers and even a few responses to the root device prompt (probably a bad idea). I also rebooted Win95 from the hard disk and was able to reconfigure it to successfully use the CD with the changed IRQ/DMA settings (per NextAnswers 1108). The SCSI adapter and CD do work. However, my subsequent attempts to install OpenStep no longer get as far: after registering a few devices (EISA 0, PCI 0, PCMCIA 0, it stops at "Adaptec 154x at port 0x330 irq 11" (which is exactly how it's configured in hardware and firmware). There's no prompt, it just stops. No longer is the hard disk mentioned. Also, Win95 will no longer boot, except in "safe" mode (not that I need or want Win95 :-) ). I even tried installing all SCSI and no IDE driver (with a SyQuest connected), but it stopped at the same place "Adaptec 154x ...". Is this SCSI adapter incompatible with the OpenStep driver? NeXTAnswers 1541 tells me to install an Adaptec 154x driver update, but don't I already have the latest version (4.01)? (The downloaded Adaptec1542B.info file says "Version OPENSTEP for Mach Release 4.1, Driver Version 4.01". Is there any way to install OpenStep on this system, with or without making hardware changes? Thanks for any help - please copy your reply post to email for faster delivery, although I'll monitor the newsgroup too. And I'm willing to pay for phone tech support, if anybody knows the answers and wants to earn something for their time. Best regards, Paul Collins -- Paul Collins, Owner/Developer One Click Systems -- -- paul@oneclick.com http://www.oneclick.com/ -- -- Now shipping! ClickMail 1.1 Internet gateway for QuickMail -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-was.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!newshost.uni-koblenz.de!not-for-mail From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS 4.2 won't install on DeskPro 5133/Adaptec SCSI Date: 8 Jul 1997 07:08:25 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5psp19$jsf$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nihil.uni-koblenz.de X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) paul@oneclick.com (Paul Collins) wrote: > Is this SCSI adapter incompatible with the OpenStep driver? Yes and you have the newest driver available. Try to change the CD-ROM's SCSI ID to 6 and see what happens. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!LF.net!not-for-mail From: "pirmin" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Using black Printer from a Windows 95 System Date: 8 Jul 1997 09:56:17 GMT Organization: pirmin Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bc8b95$c6c7c4a0$04662dc0@petraw95.pirmin> NNTP-Posting-Host: isdn005.stuttgart.netsurf.de X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Hi, haven't found this in the faq. Is there a possibility, to print on a black Next Printer from Windows 95 within a heterogenous network? Sort of a Windows Print Server emulation on the NextStation? This would save me from buying another printer. Regards, Pirmin. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: Winfried Junke Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: mouse not found Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 15:49:00 -0700 Organization: Universitaet Bochum Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33C2C3DC.6F05@neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Reply-To: junke@neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NNTP-Posting-Host: daylite.neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) I want to install NextStep 3.3, during the Installation the Systems calls 'Mouse not found'. I'm afraid that the System doesn't recognized the Com-Port. After loading the newest seriell driver the problem isn't removed. What could I do ? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Need a source for unusual or custom cables Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 20:55:11 GMT References: <5pot95$7op$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 31 In article <5pot95$7op$1@maryj.bitstream.net>, Christian Jensen wrote: >I am in the process of hacking a second motherboard into my cube and >find that the final missing piece of the hardware puzzle is a >longer-than-usual 20-pin Optical Drive cable. > Hmmm. Is the first board in there a Turbo, Christian? ;) >Since the #2 m'board will not be in its customary location, the OD >cable will need to travel to the front of the cube, around the edge of >m'board #1, double back to the power supply, reach under the OD dust >filter and plug in as usual. To do this comfortably I will need a >cable approximately 30"/ 78cm long. > Ouch! The OD cables with three total connectors on them (the ones that let you run two ODs in your cube) aren't even long enough for this. >Does anyone have any recommendations re: a source for this? Or an >outfit that would be able to make one (or two)? > You could always cut down a bigger cable like a SCSI one. Just make sure you plug it in the right way since it won't be keyed anymore. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!not-for-mail From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Faxmodems work together with NXFax? Date: 8 Jul 1997 15:03:03 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5ptkr7$9d4$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5pr556$93l$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: chrome.psych.ualberta.ca In-Reply-To: <5pr556$93l$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.230 $] NF-S-00020 On 07/07/97, Valentino Kyriakides wrote: > >I would like to know which actual faxmodems are known to work well >together with NXFax under NS 3.3 SupraFAX 288 for me. Works perfectly with NXFax. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!oneclick.vip.best.com!user From: paul@oneclick.com (Paul Collins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS 4.2 won't install on DeskPro 5133/Adaptec SCSI Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 09:43:37 -0700 Organization: One Click Systems Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5psp19$jsf$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: oneclick.vip.best.com In article <5psp19$jsf$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>, bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) wrote: > paul@oneclick.com (Paul Collins) wrote: > > Is this SCSI adapter incompatible with the OpenStep driver? > > Yes and you have the newest driver available. Try to change the CD-ROM's SCSI > ID to 6 and see what happens. Marcel, Thank you very much for the info! Changing to ID 6 did not change the result, unfortunately. I fear I've messed something up with my poking around, possibly in the Adaptec, since I used to be able to get the hard disk info to appear. But I'll keep trying and re-checking settings. Any other suggestions? I'll have a look at adaptec's web site for settings help. Best regards, Paul Collins -- Paul Collins, Owner/Developer One Click Systems -- -- paul@oneclick.com http://www.oneclick.com/ -- -- Now shipping! ClickMail 1.1 Internet gateway for QuickMail -- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!gatech!news01.aud.alcatel.com!news.sesqui.net!news.blkbox.COM!news From: dkramer@bifrostworks.com (Daniel L. Kramer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Synectic/Bifrost driver: (was Re: Problem w/ Toshiba 200 CDT Video) Date: 8 Jul 1997 17:54:17 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5ptus9$q7u@news.blkbox.com> References: <01bc8677$7bbc4ee0$04662dc0@petraw95.pirmin> Reply-To: dkramer@bifrostworks.com NNTP-Posting-Host: heimdall.bifrostworks.com In article <01bc8677$7bbc4ee0$04662dc0@petraw95.pirmin> "pirmin" writes: > My Toshiba 200 CDT won't run with the CT65550 driver from Bifrost. > At boot time it says > "CT65550 2 MB Video detected" but immediately afterwards > "_IOProbDriver: no such device" (sort of...) We have had several people ask about various laptops. The following laptops are officially supported: Toshiba Portege 660 Toshiba Tecra 730/740 Thanks - Dan -- Daniel L. Kramer Bifrost Workstations, Inc. 10850 Richmond Ave., Suite 270 Houston, TX 77042 (713) 952-9949 voice #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: How many bits in Color Turbo? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 03:48:51 GMT References: <33BFFCAA.14D4@primenet.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article <33BFFCAA.14D4@primenet.com>, Carl A. Carlson wrote: >I have been thinking of replacing my mono station with a color turbo. >As I read the specs, color turbos use 12 bits of color info for every >screen pixel. Is that right? > Right. The screen is stores as 16-bit colour (4/4/4/4 for r/g/b/alpha) and then, as far as I know, converted to straight 4/4/4 for display. Exactly how this is done I'm not surer. I remember ra few years ago a big discussion about this with much good information from Mike Paquette and Don Yacktman but the content seems to have mostly escaped me now... -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!tiger.middlebury.edu!flannet.middlebury.edu!herren From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what color monitors for ND cube? Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:58:42 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: gibraltar.middlebury.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) I am currently running a two headed system and would like to retain it as= such, but my 17inch color monitor is beginning to flake out. When it's r= unning, it's the most beautiful display I've ever seen, however it occasi= onally turns green (one or more of the guns stop firing or something). Sometimes tapping it in several place= s brings it right back--other times I have to give a good whack. This is = ok as long as my wife isn't sleeping--she wakes up and can't tell if I'm = destroying the office or getting my color back. What recommendations can the group make on a replacement, preferably new = (and of course I would prefer black in color...grin), 17-21 inch color mo= nitors that could be connected to the ND board in my cube? Am I basically= looking at a cable issue to make the ND work with any monitor, or are there other issues a la the 17 inch = mono? -- = David Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren/ Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology MaBell:(802) 443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 dot syntax sux #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!op.net!not-for-mail From: andydunn@op.net (Andy Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1040 unformatted = 864 formatted? Date: 8 Jul 1997 21:55:18 GMT Organization: OpNet -- Greater Philadelphia Internet Service Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5pud06$h09$1@picasso.op.net> References: Reply-To: andydunn@op.net NNTP-Posting-Host: d4-05.ppp.op.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) Cc: luomat@peak.org Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.periphs.scsi:81892 comp.sys.next.hardware:29649 In Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I've got a MicroPolis drive that is 1040megs unformated. > > When I format it now, I get 864megs. I'm pretty sure I had 991 megs last > time, but I don't know what I did differently this time. I had to > reformat to get rid of some partitioning and wanted to start with a clean > slate. > > I realize this is bare bones information, but what might I try to improve > the disk size? > > This will be a boot drive for OpenStep 4.1 > > Thanks > > TjL > That sounds about right. You lose some disk space to formatting, and then UNIX eats another 10% that it keeps in reserve. My 2010 MB disk (unformatted) was 1994 MB formatted, which left me with 1795 MB to use. I don't know of any way to get back the space UNIX reserves, and I suspect you wouldn't want to do so even if you could. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.urz.tu-dresden.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Matthew Reichman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What system files (NS3.3mach) are used to connect to a ZIP drive? Date: 8 Jul 1997 22:53:14 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5pugcq$2ma@bolivia.earthlink.net> Reply-To: Matthew Reichman NNTP-Posting-Host: pool073-max18.la-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) I've been having problems with my zip drive. Or rather, I had problem with my first one in that after reading and writing disks, I reformatted one 2-3 times in a row and thereafter all my zip disks weren't readable. So, I thought it was the drive and returned it and now have a new one, which won't read any of the disks and makes a chink chink chink noise. Would this be a problem with certain system files in NS3.3 mach? Or is it just the bad luck of getting 2 bad drives in a row? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Any similiarity between the OD and an apple floppy? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:45:29 GMT References: <5pprkb$cfu@umbc10.umbc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 14 In article <5pprkb$cfu@umbc10.umbc.edu>, hurley bryan wrote: > >I noticed that the optical drive of a cube and a macintosh floppy drive >both use 20pin cables to connect them. Since the OD isn't scsi, I assume, >anyone know if there is any similiarity? I would be stunned if there were a similarity. Apparently the OD is some sort of perverted ESDI. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!syix.com!bad-news.harborcom.net!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!peace!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: Formatting HD: lost too much space Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 14:19:51 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 99 Message-ID: Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@peace X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29652 comp.periphs.scsi:81906 followups set to comp.sys.next.hardware Continuing saga: missing 127 megs after reformatting a MicroPolis HD ( MICROP 1598-15MD1066702 DD24 ) I reformatted the drive again using Adaptec SCSI utils. Logged in and it said the drive was unreadable 'initialize/ignore'? and when I chose 'initialize' it came up and said the drive had 0 byte capacity. Hoping it was wrong ;-) I went ahead and it did initialize it, but again I got 864megs, and I was hoping for 991. Even if the drive's original unformated capacity was 991, wouldn't 864 be considered a low amount? And again, the drive started out as 1040 megs raw unformatted.... Data taken from: http://www.micropolis.com/1598.html DRIVE SPECIFICATIONS - MODEL 1598-15 Formatted Capacity Per Drive 1034.6 MB Bytes per Sector 512 Sectors per Track 71 Cylinders 1,928 Disk Platters 8 Read/Write Heads 15 Performance Data Rate Seek Time (including settling time) Track-to-Track 4 msec Average 14.5 msec Maximum 33 msec Avg. Rotational Latency 8.33 msec Rotational Speed 3600 rpm +/- 0.5% Data Transfer Rate at Interface OpenStep 4.1 reports: scsimodes -C /dev/rsd3a reports: 991 scsimodes -v /dev/rsd3a reports: plh_len = 35 plh_medium = 0 plh_wp = 0 plh_blkdesclen = 8 bd_density = 0 bd_nblk = 2031554 bd_blklen = 512 dfp_savable = 1 dfp_pagecode = 3 dfp_pagelen = 22 dfp_trkszone = 15 dfp_altsecszone = 8 dfp_alttrkszone = 0 dfp_alttrksvol = 45 dfp_sectors = 71 dfp_bytessector = 512 dfp_interleave = 1 dfp_trkskew = 0 dfp_cylskew = 23 dfp_ssec = 0 dfp_hsec = 1 dfp_rmb = 0 dfp_surf = 0 plh_len = 31 plh_medium = 0 plh_wp = 0 plh_blkdesclen = 8 bd_density = 0 bd_nblk = 2031554 bd_blklen = 512 rdp_savable = 1 rdp_pagecode = 4 rdp_pagelen = 18 rdp_maxcyl = 1928 rdp_maxheads = 15 rdp_wpstart = 0 rdp_rwcstart = 0 rdp_steprate = 0 rdp_landcyl = 0 last logical block=2031553 block length=512 which means nothing to me, but might be a clue to someone else. Where did the 127 megs go??? 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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 05:16:24 GMT Organization: Mitsubishi Electric,Inazawa,Japan Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5pv6sr$bf6@griffin.ina.melco.co.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: gisdell09.ina.melco.co.jp X-Newsreader: NewsRover (www.NewsRover.com) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29654 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:31193 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:78268 The Libretto is now being sold in the US. Should start shipping this month. Also, in Japan a new version has just been released with a pentium 100. Many people in japan have loaded their librettos with linux or freeBSD and there are numerous web pages and user groups concerning this. Try a search for libretto, you'll find them. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!demos!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: Winfried Junke Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: pc not boot Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 16:02:40 -0700 Organization: Universitaet Bochum Lines: 12 Message-ID: <33C2C710.72B7@neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Reply-To: junke@neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NNTP-Posting-Host: daylite.neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) After a complete Installation from NextStep 3.3 the computer doesn't boot. I had to install the driver for the SCSI-Controller(a new Adaptec2940) from a external floppy. If the Installation is complete and the PC must reboot, the System calls 'Boot-Device not found' Help #################################################################### From: Kris Jacobs Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Jake's Home Brew Subject: Try Me! NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.139.183.47 Message-ID: <33c1fb14.2@nntp.kalnet.net> Date: 8 Jul 97 08:32:20 GMT Lines: 12 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!nntp.kalnet.net!205.139.183.47 Hello net world are you a beer drinker or maybe a home brewer than this web page is for you! My web page is dedicated to home brewing and beer on the net! If this interests you than go to Jake's Home (brew) Page it is located at http://www.net-link.net/~jtsnake/ I am looking forward to hearing from you soon!!! Kris Jacobs Jake's Home (brew) Page http://www.net-link.net/~jtsnake/ E-Mail To: jtsnake@net-link.net jtsnake@serv01.net-link.net mpinc@SERV01.NET-LINK.NET #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!203.108.7.42!uunet1.feed.news.ozemail.net!OzEmail-In!news From: John Tompkins Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: N2000 Laser Printer Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:49:50 +0000 Organization: netpages australia Lines: 12 Message-ID: <33C41587.198@netpages.com.au> Reply-To: jaytee@netpages.com.au NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.108.201.162 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) I've just purchased a NEXT N2000 Laser Printer (1992 Model) and was wondering what type of Toner Cartridge it takes? EP, EPS What product code? etc etc etc I bought it for the novelty of owning a NEXT branded product, but was wondering if you CAN in fact connect it up to a Mac or PC for text/bitmap output. If not, It'll be converted to a SCSI box for my externals. Thanx in advance JAYTEE jaytee@netpages.com.au #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!HSNX.wco.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any similiarity between the OD and an apple floppy? Date: 9 Jul 1997 09:19:48 -0700 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 22 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5q0dn4$ck@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5pprkb$cfu@umbc10.umbc.edu> Reply-To: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sextans145.wco.com In article <5pprkb$cfu@umbc10.umbc.edu> bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) writes: > > I noticed that the optical drive of a cube and a macintosh floppy drive > both use 20pin cables to connect them. Since the OD isn't scsi, I assume, > anyone know if there is any similiarity? like connecting a mac floppy to > a cube? While the cables may physically resemble each other, the electrical signals are rather different. (There are a finite number of ribbon cable connector widths available. Such coincidences are not uncommon.) The OD uses an ESDI derived signalling protocol, which doesn't match the Mac floppy drive at all. -- Mike Paquette (mpaque AT wco.com ; Yank that .spa-am and nospam to reply.) Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!157.161.139.30!imp.ch!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.risq.qc.ca!news.mcgill.ca!i-12.das.mcgill.ca!user From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: can a NeXT cdrom drive be used with a macintosh? Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:24:38 -0500 Organization: McGill Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: i-12.das.mcgill.ca Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29659 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:78300 I have a NeXT cdrom drive which I would like to use with a macintosh IIfx. I have connected it to the scsi port, and using a drive utility which shows all scsi devices connected, I can see that the mac knows it is there. But I can't mount it, even with the utility. I installed all the mac extensions and control panels that seemed to have anything to do with cdrom. I checked the help facilities at NeXT, but could find nothing. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or is it not possible? Thanks, Bill Anderson -- Bill Anderson Department of Mathematics and statistics McGill University Montreal, Canada #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 1040 unformatted = 864 formatted? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:58:58 GMT Lines: 39 In article Timothy Luoma writes: > > I've got a MicroPolis drive that is 1040megs unformated. > > When I format it now, I get 864megs. I'm pretty sure I had 991 > megs last time, but I don't know what I did differently this > time. I had to reformat to get rid of some partitioning and > wanted to start with a clean slate. > Some space is lost to the creation of i-nodes. There are several parameters influencing this. In most cases the defaults are a good guess. The other space is hidden in the headroom margin. Changing the filesystem optimization strategy makes some of this space available, but that comes with a price (hefty speed decrease). > I realize this is bare bones information, but what might I try > to improve the disk size? > You could play with the 'newfs' parameters. Refer to the man-pages to learn more about it (also look for the 'tunefs' utility). > This will be a boot drive for OpenStep 4.1 > I don't think it would be helpful to tamper that much with the filesystem parameters of a boot partition... IMHO, there are only two extremes where such tuning pays. First, if you install a News-server on a really large partition, you'll need as many i-nodes as you can get since Usenet files tend to be very small. Second, when you do lots of sound recordings or imaging/movie applications. Then you need your allocations a big as possible to improve speed and save some filesystem overhead. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Using black Printer from a Windows 95 System Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <01bc8b95$c6c7c4a0$04662dc0@petraw95.pirmin> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:01:39 GMT Lines: 16 In article <01bc8b95$c6c7c4a0$04662dc0@petraw95.pirmin> "pirmin" writes: > Hi, > haven't found this in the faq. Is there a possibility, to print on a > black Next Printer from Windows 95 within a heterogenous network? Sort > of a Windows Print Server emulation on the NextStation? This would save > me from buying another printer. > The answer is Samba. It's in the Public Domain. Go get it from one of the Archives. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mixi.net!usenet From: dredd@megacity.org (Derek Balling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Just got a cube Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 19:19:13 GMT Organization: Midwest Internet Exchange, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <33c5e28e.19168873@news.mixi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: neptune.mixi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:18254 comp.sys.next.hardware:29662 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:27464 I have recently acquired (my friend was trying to clean out his basement) a NeXT Cube with b/w monitor. He says he believes it is a 68030/25 with 16MB RAM. He claims the optical drive may not be functional, and that the "networking support" is not currently installed. However, when it boots up the net support APPEARS to be installed (it seems like it tries to use RARP or some such to get an IP address from the local ethernet). Combine this with a lack of manuals or a copy of the installation software and you come up with a big mess. Anybody out there have any thoughts or suggestions for me? Derek Balling dredd@megacity.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.midusa.net!postmaster From: "H. Blakely Williford" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black hardware laser printer, jams most of the time. Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 13:58:29 -0500 Organization: The Fuller Brush Company Lines: 15 Message-ID: <33C3DF55.4BA7A2B9@fuller.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.144.185.65 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) Hello! We have several black hardware NeXT laser printers that are showing signs of age. Is there any replacements for these printers? Is it possable to use Hp Printers on these systems? How about a sorce for repacement parts? Any information or help would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. -- H. Blakely Williford | Men never do evil so completely and Systems Administrator/Programmer | cheerfully as when they do it from The Fuller Brush Company | religious conviction. -- Pascal #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!mis1!worldnet.att.net!179.detroit-005.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS 4.1 on 4 gig HD Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:05:30 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.52.179 I know I have seen this question answered numerous times on here but since I only had Black hardware until yesterday, I didn't pay any attention. How can one get OpenStep 4.1 to recognize an IDE hard drive larger than 520 megs? I seem to be having a problem with this. I searched NeXTanswers but couldn't find anything on point. Thansk for the help Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.nacamar.de!Frankfurt.Germany.EU.net!Munich.Germany.EU.net!ibm.de!mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com!not-for-mail From: Henry Koplien Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Custom Refresh Rate for Matrox Millenium Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 09:00:28 +0200 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Lines: 83 Message-ID: <33C0940C.446B@vnet.ibm.com> References: <5pnek0$oqm@nntp02.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mc03.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; AIX 1) Paul R. Tognato-Haddad wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a Matrox Millenium 4MB card. I'm running 3.3 and I'd like to run the > card @ 1600*1200 80HZ. I've tried modifying the Instance0.table but that > didn't work. Is there any way to get this card running at that refresh rate? > > -- > Paul (NeXTmail preferred) > # Paul T. Haddad (paul@pth.com) -- Ha, what an incident! Friday I retrieved the latest driver for the Matrox. I think it's time to say something about NeXTAnswers... ***ONE*** year ago I wrote a mail to NeXTA. describing a bug in the driver with a brief description about software engineering because the guy's didn't initilize the registers completely. I wrote them that it is always a good idea to set *all* the registers. You therefore have something to document what you are doing *and* you avoid faulty register settings when reseting the chip. Some Matrox's don't initialize proper on power on and respond with frame rates of 200Hz at a resolution of 1600x1200. This can be avoided with a complete register setting. Matrox knew this, their driver worked from scratch. The NeXT driver don't. It took *more than one year* to solve this problem!!! I may miss some iterations but I don't think so. I wrote the bug at driver increment "1"(V3.30), "2"(V3.31) and "3"(V4.0). The later is more than one year old! since June the increment "7" is out. What is a fact is number 3 stayed till May. If there were any intermediate releases to the public, than this four increments were out in one month. Hey, what are they doing at NeXTAnswers??? They tackle around with things like multi displays! Are they foolish? Why should I have multi displays when a single one don't work??? Now, in increment "7" (they moved from 3.31 to 3.34 with the same reference number!) this behaviour is gone. Well, one year later. But know they gave the community other drawbacks. The horizontal line begins aprox. 100 pixels earlier (in german it's called "Schwarzschulter") which mean if you ever switch the OS and use the original Matrox dirvers you have to adjust your monitor, well done NeXT... Now they are very restrictive concerning the resolutions and frame rates and the color space. What worked in increment "3" (V4.00 and before), You was able to do 1600 x 1200 at 888/32 (66Hz). (I am quiet sure 85Hz will work too) Well the resolution with the color space was not documented but worked! Now it is not document and didn't worked either. This mean in their actual driver there isn't any "True Color" mode in 1600x1200. (Yup, and the new cards doing 1800x1440 in "True Color"...) To answer Your question, no there is no way to run your frame rate, possibly not with the hardware, but if the hardware is able to do so, you will never receive any workable driver from NeXT. If you like multi displays and don't want big color spaces you are wellcome to NeXT. But you have to wait one year to discover other drawbacks... I believe 80Hz aren't supported with the hardware. BTW, as I wrote to NeXT I stated that they simply read in the values and calculate the registers. No response... It is a simple task because if values aren't available you can choose a saver one and give out the used values at power up. Very simple, such things I made with serial I/O's (not on NeXT). You can choose values you like and use the ones which comes closest to the desired one giving out the error. For the Matrox NeXT should work on all possible frame rates, color spaces, and resolutions before the work on useless things like multi displays. It is a pitty too that you need 8MB RAM for 1280x1024 in "888". MATROX is doing this with 4MB. Therefore I can't see any chance for the new Mill. II with a resolution of 1800x1440 at 888/24. (Will they ever release more updates? V4.3 is definitely the last OS, till then OpenStep is dead too...) Ok, now I write something to NeXTAnswers.. ----------- http://www.ti6.tu-harburg.de/~ti6hk/index.html ------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany voice : +49-7031-16-3516 \|/ fax : +49-7031-16-3328 o(O O)o voice,BBS & fax : +49-7031-276113 (private) \ / ------------------ Email: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com ----ooOo---(_)---oOoo--- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!130.199.140.22!nntp.bnl.gov!usenet From: doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New Dell Pentium II machines and NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Date: 9 Jul 1997 23:27:21 GMT Organization: American Physical Society Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5q16op$n51@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> Reply-To: doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.199.52.132 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi all, Dell seems to have some very good prices on their new Pentium II machines these days and I am in the market for a new Intel machine. Anyone know of any pitfalls of trying to run 3.3 and/or 4.2 on a Dell? I would be getting: Dell Dimension XPS with: 266MHz Pentium II MiniTower w/512k Cache and Yamaha sound 32MB EDO Parity RAM Matrox Millennium II PCI Video Board with 4MB WRAM 2GB UW SCSI Hard Drive with 2940UW Controller Microsoft PS2 Intellimouse 3Com 3C900 PCI Combo 10MB Etherlink 8X SCSI CD-ROM (Requires SCSI Hard Dr) Yamaha OP4L Wavetable upgrade plus other irrelevant stuff.... Is it safe to assume the SCSI controller will be an Adaptec? Will I have any chance of using the sound with NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? I presume most of the rest are safe choices... Thanks for any info. Cheers, Mark doyle@aps.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!sdd.hp.com!hamblin.math.byu.edu!acs2.byu.edu!news.et.byu.edu!not-for-mail From: "Jesse D. Hurlbut" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Printer paper jam Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 19:17:36 -0600 Organization: StarPage LCC Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33C43830.43CF9B02@starpage.com> Reply-To: webmaster@starpage.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.187.41.129 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I know there are a couple of fixes out there for NeXT Printers (replace gear, etc.), but I think this is a different problem. My printer feeds about three inches of paper from the paper tray, then stalls and declares a paper jam. Is this a problem anyone else has had? is there an easy fix? thanks. Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!world6.bellatlantic.net!fiji.easyway.net!nyc02-sl18.easyway.net From: jimbo@easyway.net (James C. Brost) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT DSP port pinout? Date: 10 Jul 97 03:35:42 GMT Organization: Bell Atlantic Internet Solutions Lines: 9 Message-ID: <33c4588e.0@fiji.easyway.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: fiji.easyway.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Hi, Does anyone have a pinout for the NeXT DSP port on Black Hardware? Also, any software written to use this port? Thanks....... -- jimbo@easyway.net (NeXT Mail supported) #################################################################### From: Damn Yankee Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Yankee Inc. Subject: I Am Very Sorry!!! NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.139.183.55 Message-ID: <33c2597c.0@nntp.kalnet.net> Date: 8 Jul 97 15:15:08 GMT Lines: 5 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!nntp.kalnet.net!205.139.183.55 I would like to apologise to this newsgroup and everyone who reads this newsgroup!!! I promise never to post or send spam to this or any other newsgroup that does not pertain to my posting!!! Please accept my humble apology and again I will never post spam here again!!! Thank You!!! Andrew Schero yank714@kalnet.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wattres!wattres!cyberspam!spamcancel!not-for-mail From: Steve Watt Organization: USENET spam abatement Sender: Damn Yankee Date: 10 Jul 97 07:44:58 GMT Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <33c2597c.0@nntp.kalnet.net> Control: cancel <33c2597c.0@nntp.kalnet.net> Approved: steve@watt.com.nospam X-Cancelled-By: steve@watt.com.nospam X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 4 I have cancelled this article which had a BI of more than 20. Spam is spam, even when it's an apology. The original subject was: }Subject: I Am Very Sorry!!! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!wattres!wattres!cyberspam!spamcancel!not-for-mail From: Steve Watt Organization: USENET spam abatement Sender: Kris Jacobs Date: 10 Jul 97 07:49:22 GMT Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <33c1fb14.2@nntp.kalnet.net> Control: cancel <33c1fb14.2@nntp.kalnet.net> Approved: steve@watt.com.nospam X-Cancelled-By: steve@watt.com.nospam X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 3 I have cancelled this article which had a BI of more than 20. The original subject was: }Subject: Try Me! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.156.196.2!news.iex.net!not-for-mail From: jeff hepp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI2, SCSI3, Ultra, Fast & Wide 4 Black Box Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:09:37 -0700 Organization: get hep! sound Lines: 5 Message-ID: <33C51751.302A@usa.net> Reply-To: nexthepp@usa.net NNTP-Posting-Host: port16.den1-annex.usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) I was wondering what types of SCSI drives work with Black hardware and which to avoid. I'm looking at a 2 gig Quantum Fireball ST that is SCSI3. Any pointers to FAQs would be appreciated. Jeff Hepp nexthepp@usa.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!128.138.243.15!csnews!boulder!pb From: pb@morse.Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SIMMs in mono slab Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:04:01 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5q315h$5ti@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: morse.colorado.edu I want to add memory to my slab (non-turbo): Does it matter how I do this? In other words, must SIMMs be added in pairs, in fourse, or can they be added singly? Also, if I combine 1 meg and 4 meg SIMMs, does it matter what goes where? (The only mention of memory that I found in the documentation claims that NeXT considers a 'station to have no user serviceable parts inside!) Thanks in advance. E-mail replies are welcome. PB Schechter pb@colorado.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!spool.mu.edu!newsspool.sol.net!newspump.wustl.edu!cnn.Princeton.EDU!usenet From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black hardware laser printer, jams most of the time. Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:50:45 GMT Organization: Princeton University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5q33t5$ctc$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <33C3DF55.4BA7A2B9@fuller.com> Reply-To: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) NNTP-Posting-Host: zandtwerk.princeton.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) Cc: blakew@fuller.com In <33C3DF55.4BA7A2B9@fuller.com> "H. Blakely Williford" wrote: > Hello! > > We have several black hardware NeXT laser printers that are showing > signs of age. Is there any replacements for these printers? Is it > possable to use Hp Printers on these systems? How about a sorce for > repacement parts? Check out Timothy Luoma's Next printer FAQ: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html My experience with the ``paper jams as it goes in'' problem. I read about replacing a roller in the above FAQ, and found the part at http://www.printerworks.com/Catalogs/SX-Catalog/340SXPprPikUpRlrAssbly.html But before getting involved in that, I just reached in and clean the roller with alcohol and a cotton ball. Don't know if there is any reason not to do this, but the printer stops jamming. Tim #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: can a NeXT cdrom drive be used with a macintosh? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:09:24 GMT Lines: 20 In article bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) writes: > I have a NeXT cdrom drive which I would like to use with a > macintosh IIfx. I have connected it to the scsi port, and using > a drive utility which shows all scsi devices connected, I can > see that the mac knows it is there. But I can't mount it, even > with the utility. > > I installed all the mac extensions and control panels that seemed > to have anything to do with cdrom. I checked the help facilities > at NeXT, but could find nothing. > Apple uses to modify the ROM page on its CD/ROM drives. Therefore, custom drives only work with alternative driver software. There are a few (commercial?) solutions known. Go check the known Macintosh archives... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: N2000 Laser Printer Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33C41587.198@netpages.com.au> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:16:40 GMT Lines: 25 In article <33C41587.198@netpages.com.au> John Tompkins writes: > I've just purchased a NEXT N2000 Laser Printer (1992 Model) and was > wondering what type of Toner Cartridge it takes? > EP, EPS What product code? etc etc etc > EPS is the right one. You usally refer to it by the HP product code. The LaserJet II used to have the same print engine (i.e. Canon). > I bought it for the novelty of owning a NEXT branded product, but was > wondering if you CAN in fact connect it up to a Mac or PC for > text/bitmap output. If not, It'll be converted to a SCSI box for my > externals. > No real world chance to connect it to anything else but a black NeXT machine. The interface is a custom high speed synchronous serial link. And I could think of an easier way to come up with an enclosure for external SCSI devices ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: SCSI HD on a Nextstation Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:23:32 GMT Lines: 24 In article hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O Neill) writes: > I have aquired a seagate medalist Pro 2GB hard disk (ST52160N) and would > like to install it in my NextStation Color, however before I try I would > like to make sure that the settings are right. > > I know it should be set to SCSI ID 1, but can anyone tell me should I: > > (1) Enable or disable the internal terminator. > (2) Enable or disable Parity. > (3) Enable or disable 'Remote Start'. > ID 1 is usually set for the internal boot drive but no prerequisite; any ID other than 7 would do as long as it is the smallest ID of all installed disk drives, CD/ROM included. The internal drive needs to be terminated. Parity doesn't matter, IMHO. Same for Remote STart. Much more important is the fact that the drive needs to run in SCSI-1, asynch mode. It won't be bootable, otherwise. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!news.clark.net!stephen From: stephen@clark.net (Stephen Balbach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cube vs Station Date: 10 Jul 1997 17:45:05 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Balt/DC, mail all-info@clark.net Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5q3731$obd@clarknet.clark.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 100-explorer.clark.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What is the diffrence between a Cube and a Station (other then one is a borg and the other a pizza). .stb -- --- Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!chi-news.cic.net!199.242.16.13!news4.ixa.net!ixa.net!news.structured.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black hardware laser printer, jams most of the time. Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:38:17 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 13 Message-ID: Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: "H. Blakely Williford" In-Reply-To: <33C3DF55.4BA7A2B9@fuller.com> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat See my web page for the NeXT Printer FAQ TjL -- TjL / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing." - Dr Robert Cupper, Department of CS, Allegheny College #################################################################### From: randy97 Subject: http://www.love.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware NNTP-Posting-Host: pgh.nauticom.net Message-ID: <33c52b4e.1@pgh.nauticom.net> Date: 10 Jul 97 18:34:54 GMT Lines: 9 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!pgh.nauticom.net!pgh.nauticom.net Looking to find people in your area that enjoy the same things as this newsgroup? Check out http://www.love.com It's free, it's new, and it's awesome. Rand #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!gatech!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to get rid of rom password Date: 9 Jul 1997 22:15:35 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5q1gk7$ecu@umbc8.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc8.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: unknown trying to install a fresh copy of NS on my cube, that I recently got, and don't have the rom password. is there a way to get rid of it, or at least change it, or is there a default one? can't boot from the floppy as far as I can figure out how to. asks for a password... thanks bryan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: Carl Jabido Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't boot system! Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:27:43 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 22 Message-ID: <33C56FEF.1247@npl.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: xnb-as1s38.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 10 Jul 1997 23:31:07 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) i just picked up a color nextstation and i'm having problems getting it to boot. the hard drive was removed because the original owner upgraded it to 3.3 for me. when i got the computer, it didn't have the cables for the hard drive so i dropped by compusa and got an internal scsi cable. problem is the only one they had was for two scsi drives. does this make a difference? anyway, here's my problem. at first it was loading from the network because the boot command was 'en'. i changed the boot command to 'sd' and it went to the scsi drive. so now i turned on the verbose mode and here's what it says: 'boot sd(0,0,0) diagnostics' and everytime the hard drive light blinks, it says 'sc: didn't complete'. the hard drive looks like a 1992 apple hard drive, mac i'm assuming. does this have anything to do with the scsi cable? i turned on testing the scsi and it passes. thanks, carl jabido cjabido@npl.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news-pen-4.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!news.nysernet.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.148.240.3!storm.lightning.net!toof.net!admin From: System Administrator Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1040 unformatted = 864 formatted? Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:56:35 -0400 Organization: Lightning Internet Services, LLC Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <5pud06$h09$1@picasso.op.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wisdom.toof.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5pud06$h09$1@picasso.op.net> Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.periphs.scsi:82077 comp.sys.next.hardware:29681 Unix typically keeps 10% of your disk as "slush" space. This is done so that when your drive hits 100% capacity, your system doesn't crash due to lack of working space. You can actually fill the drive to 110% capacity, but I would not recommend doing so as you will cause system instability and possibly crashes. Sincerely, Christopher B. Zydel System Administrator Toof, Inc. admin@toof.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- "'Love' is a condition in which your happiness depends upon the happiness of another." --------------------------------------------------------------------- On 8 Jul 1997, Andy Dunn wrote: > In Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > > I've got a MicroPolis drive that is 1040megs unformated. > > > > When I format it now, I get 864megs. I'm pretty sure I had 991 megs last > > time, but I don't know what I did differently this time. I had to > > reformat to get rid of some partitioning and wanted to start with a clean > > slate. > > > > I realize this is bare bones information, but what might I try to improve > > the disk size? > > > > This will be a boot drive for OpenStep 4.1 > > > > Thanks > > > > TjL > > > > That sounds about right. You lose some disk space to formatting, and then > UNIX eats another 10% that it keeps in reserve. My 2010 MB disk > (unformatted) was 1994 MB formatted, which left me > with 1795 MB to use. > > I don't know of any way to get back the space UNIX reserves, and I suspect > you wouldn't want to do so even if you could. > > > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!128.113.100.15!rpi!usenet From: Garance A Drosehn Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What system files (NS3.3mach) are used to connect to a ZIP drive? Date: 11 Jul 1997 01:02:39 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5q40nf$dub@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5pugcq$2ma@bolivia.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mlor.its.rpi.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Matthew Reichman wrote: > I've been having problems with my zip drive. Or rather, I had > problem with my first one in that after reading and writing disks, > I reformatted one 2-3 times in a row and thereafter all my zip > disks weren't readable. > > So, I thought it was the drive and returned it and now have a > new one, which won't read any of the disks and makes a chink > chink chink noise. The chink-chink noise indicates a bad drive or a bad ZIP cartridge (I forget which). It is not likely that it would be caused by corrupted software drivers in the operating system. I'd try to find someone who could test the ZIP drive (and cartridge) on some other machine, like a Mac. That way you should be able to narrow down the likely problem. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!rjacobs.Stanford.EDU!rob From: "Robert G. Jacobs" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Custom Refresh Rate for Matrox Millenium Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:16:38 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Lines: 6 Message-ID: References: <5pnek0$oqm@nntp02.primenet.com> <33C0940C.446B@vnet.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rjacobs.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Henry Koplien In-Reply-To: <33C0940C.446B@vnet.ibm.com> I'm running the Millenium with version 3.30. What has been changed to the driver between versions 3.30 and 3.34? Rob #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.uio.no!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!mis3!worldnet.att.net!227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net!user From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Questions about OS4/Intel Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:41:38 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.116.129.227 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29684 comp.sys.next.software:30289 I'm considering getting a PC to run OpenStep/Rhapsody alongside my Mac box. How much of a pain is it to get it to work on Intel hardware? I'm I really much better off sticking with a new PowerMac box (my current 7100 won't run Rhapsody)? Anyone doing MIDI with OpenSTEP on Intel? How well does it work? Comments? Thoughts -- -- Ishir Bhan (ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu) http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!gatech!purdue!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: bhurle1@umbc.edu (hurley bryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what is the difference between cubes and stations? Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:45:32 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5q4a8s$6ft@umbc10.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc10.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: bhurle1 what is so special about cubes other than I can buy a $500 ND board for it? or Nitro, or some other unreachable Workstation class Nubus/Nextbus card. as in sound editing capabilities, DSP stuff, and most important what uses what kind of memory. thanks bryan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.72.1.20!interpath!news.interpath.net!news.interpath.net!mercury!dblakele From: dblakele@mercury.interpath.net (Dean D. Blakeley - Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTCube Hard Drive Installation Problem/Glitch Date: 11 Jul 1997 02:21:21 GMT Organization: Interpath Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5q45b1$s8t@redstone.interpath.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.interpath.com Howdy Do! You folks probably remember my question from a few months ago. Aging Cube with a Maxtor XT8760S that was about 7 years old with a case of the hiccups. Well, I got back from vacation last week and was booting up to check my email. In graphical mode the system test failed, and in verbose mode I got the message that the SCSI bus was hung. Okay, so I pop in my trusty old backup optical drive and everything works pretty good. So, the computer isn't dead. So, I call Insight and get the Seagate Hawk 2XL, ST31055N since the ST31051N has been discontinued. It arrives today, and I go ahead and follow the installation instructions from NeXT/Bell Atlantic (Rev '92) and the info from Insight. I set the SCSI address to ID1 for the hard drive, remove the terminators, leave the optical drive in place, connect all the cables and fire up the jenny. Well, I still get the 'System Test Failed' and 'SCSI Bus Hung' messages and can't even mount the HD when booting up from the OD. Now, one thing I noticed is that my external PLI SuperFloppy and NeXTCD-ROM won't even spin up. So, I'm not sure what to do. Any ideas? Peace -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Rock Quarry Road Family Med _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | 1001 Rock Quarry Road \\// Office Tel # (919) 833-3111 | | Raleigh NC 27610 \/ #include | #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news From: Carl Jabido Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory config Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 00:46:46 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <33C5BAB2.54E1@npl.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: xnb-as1s07.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 11 Jul 1997 04:50:09 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) I was reading through the NeXTanswer thing on memory and noticed it didn't mention my memory config. I got a Color NeXTstation (non-turbo) and it uses _8_ 72-pin SIMMs. It can't use double sided SIMMs because they're too close together. Is this just an oversight on NeXT's part? Thanks, Carl #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!howland.erols.net!spool.mu.edu!sol.net!spool.mu.edu!newsspool.sol.net!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!not-for-mail From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Questions about OS4/Intel (MIDI) Date: 11 Jul 1997 06:05:19 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5q4iev$l06$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29688 comp.sys.next.software:30290 In Ishir Bhan wrote: > Anyone doing MIDI with OpenSTEP on Intel? How well does it work? > > Comments? Thoughts Performance wise, pretty damn well. Of course, not a lot of applications, but those that are around are fairly complete: Sequence and Calliope, SynthBuilder, Ensemble, the MusicKit for development etc. All of the above are PD (SynthBuilder requires an academic license to Stanford). You'll need an MPU-401 compatible interface and a DSP card if you want to do real-time synthesis. I'm running comfortably on 150 and 166MHz Pentiums, but I've had good results even on a 486DX2/66MHz -- Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia Smith +61-9-9380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "Home pages are the pet rock of the 90s. We all have them, we all think they're very cute. But in a few years we're going to look back and be pretty embarrassed." -- Tony Shepps "Why wait?" -- Peter Langston #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news.grnet.gr!btnet-feed3!unlisys!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!lynx.unm.edu!news.mhpcc.edu!not-for-mail From: id_decoy@no_spaaamm.net (Lee A l t e n b e r g) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black printer putting out speckles Date: 11 Jul 1997 04:52:39 GMT Organization: MHPCC Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5q4e6n$555$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Reply-To: id_decoy @no_spaaamm.net (Lee A l t e n b e r g) NNTP-Posting-Host: montana.mhpcc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) I bought a refurbished NeXT Laser Printer, and after about 400 pages, black specks started appearing on the printed pages. I took out the removable felt pad from the printer, and replaced it with a new one, and the problem disappeared. The pad had a lot of gunk on it. Now, about 100 pages later, it has reappeared. I am using an HP 92295A EP-S cartridge. Other than the specks, the pages look perfect. Could this problem be due to something wrong with the fuser? Otherwise, what would be the cause? Any tips will be greatly appreciated. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ ======================================================================= #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!syix.com!bad-news.harborcom.net!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to get rid of rom password Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:54:22 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <5q1gk7$ecu@umbc8.umbc.edu> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: hurley bryan In-Reply-To: <5q1gk7$ecu@umbc8.umbc.edu> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat FAQ Take out the battery for a few minutes or a few hours..... until it no longer asks for one. To anticipate your next question: you will need to change the boot command from 'en' to 'sd' to get it to boot off the HD rather than the network TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!syix.com!bad-news.harborcom.net!news.BSDI.COM!news.nero.net!news.peak.org!kira!luomat From: Timothy Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't boot system! Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:56:10 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <33C56FEF.1247@npl.org> Reply-To: luomat@peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: peak.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@kira To: Carl Jabido In-Reply-To: <33C56FEF.1247@npl.org> X-FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ X-URL: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Carl Jabido wrote: > so now i turned on the verbose mode and here's what it says: > 'boot sd(0,0,0) diagnostics' and everytime the hard drive at the very least you should be able to boot with 'bsd' You should not use the 'diagnostics' part of the above boot command. TjL #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: N2000 Laser Printer Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:07:21 GMT References: <33C41587.198@netpages.com.au> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 20 In article <33C41587.198@netpages.com.au>, John Tompkins wrote: >I've just purchased a NEXT N2000 Laser Printer (1992 Model) and was >wondering what type of Toner Cartridge it takes? >EP, EPS What product code? etc etc etc > EP-2, I believe. >I bought it for the novelty of owning a NEXT branded product, but was >wondering if you CAN in fact connect it up to a Mac or PC for >text/bitmap output. Nope--NeXT hardware only unless you're super-studly at reverse-engineering. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Printer paper jam References: <33C43830.43CF9B02@starpage.com> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <33c5cee1.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 11 Jul 97 06:12:49 GMT Lines: 36 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article <33C43830.43CF9B02@starpage.com>, Jesse D. Hurlbut wrote: >I know there are a couple of fixes out there for NeXT Printers (replace >gear, etc.), but I think this is a different problem. My printer feeds >about three inches of paper from the paper tray, then stalls and >declares a paper jam. Is this a problem anyone else has had? is there >an easy fix? > >thanks. > >Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu > You have the perished inputpick-up roller problem. You can fix it by removing the covers from the printer, disassembling the first stage of the path, turning the rubber jacket on the roller inside out, and putting it all back together again. If you have the required skills and "oily thumb". You'll find Timothy Luoma's web site provides more helpfull information: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ (click on the nice icon of the NeXTPrinter, or goto http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html) [Thanks Timothy!] I've done two now, and they are as good as new. Hope this helps. david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to get rid of rom password References: <5q1gk7$ecu@umbc8.umbc.edu> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.159.2.3 Message-ID: <33c5cffb.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 11 Jul 97 06:17:31 GMT Lines: 40 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill In article <5q1gk7$ecu@umbc8.umbc.edu>, hurley bryan wrote: > >trying to install a fresh copy of NS on my cube, that I recently got, and >don't have the rom password. is there a way to get rid of it, or at least >change it, or is there a default one? > >can't boot from the floppy as far as I can figure out how to. asks for a >password... > >thanks >bryan unplug the cude and remove the back (special NeXT hexagon tool is useful here) Extract the mother board. Remove the lithium battery, noting the polarity. Short the empty pins of the battery connector. Replace the battery and put it all together again and power up. Voila! No hardware password to thwart your efforts. You can also check out Timothy Luoma's web site: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ which will give you similar information. Hope this helps. david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ From: Charles William Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Questions about OS4/Intel Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:27:33 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: po8.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29695 comp.sys.next.software:30295 Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Jul-97 Questions about OS4/Intel by Ishir Bhan@student.med.h > I'm considering getting a PC to run OpenStep/Rhapsody alongside my Mac > box. How much of a pain is it to get it to work on Intel hardware? That depends on whether you've got hardware supported by NeXT, and it helps to have SCSI rather than EIDE/ATAPI. Look at . > I'm I really much better off sticking with a new PowerMac box (my > current 7100 won't run Rhapsody)? Not the initial DR1, true; however, I would imagine that a 7100 would work just ine with the final release. > Anyone doing MIDI with OpenSTEP on Intel? How well does it work? Someone else already answered this one-- make sure to check out Stanfords' CCRMA site for SynthBuilder and the MusicKit. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.io.com!news.eden.com!interval.net!arlut.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black printer putting out speckles Date: 11 Jul 1997 14:55:04 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5q5hg8$hs$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <5q4e6n$555$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu In article <5q4e6n$555$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu>, Lee A l t e n b e r g wrote: >I bought a refurbished NeXT Laser Printer, and after about 400 pages, >black specks started appearing on the printed pages. I took out the Replace the toner with a new one. I had the same exact problem last week and the problem vanished after I put a new toner in the printer. ps: I tried to email you, but bounced :( Paulus #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!mis3!worldnet.att.net!116.detroit-005.mi.dial-access.att.net!user From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS 4.1 Intel install probelm Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:56:38 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.147.52.116 I have solved the large disk problem but now I have another one. When I try to create a DOS partition and an OpenStep partition the software will not install on the OS partition. It says that disk can't be formatted. I have no poroblem using the DOS partition for DOS. I can format the entire disk OpenStep with no problem. Are there known glitches that can be worked around? Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:02:10 -0600 From: escape@paranoia.com Subject: Symbios SCSI bug in 4.2? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Message-ID: <868636247.27597@dejanews.com> Reply-To: escape@paranoia.com Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jul 11 15:50:47 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 198.242.108.142 () X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01 (WinNT; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: escape@paranoia.com Lines: 15 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29698 comp.sys.next.bugs:4420 I'm attempting to install OpenStep 4.2 on an intel box. I have an Asus motherboard with the SC-200 SCSI card, which is a symbios/ncr 810. I am using an external NeXT SCSI cd-rom. I am trying to install on a seagate SCSI 2 gig hard drive. My problem is, OpenStep will only recognize 234 mb on the hard drive through the bios, and it will only partition that much. It *does* see that the drive is 2050 mb, however on the bios line it only has 234 megs. I tried to install onto a new Jaz disk (is this even possible?) and I ran into the same limitation. It looks like a driver problem to me, any suggestions? thanks, mike -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!HSNX.wco.com!news.wco.com!not-for-mail From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory config Date: 11 Jul 1997 09:44:57 -0700 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Lines: 20 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5q5nu9$pg@mpaque.mpaque> References: <33C5BAB2.54E1@npl.org> Reply-To: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sextans110.wco.com In article <33C5BAB2.54E1@npl.org> Carl Jabido writes: > I was reading through the NeXTanswer thing on memory > and noticed it didn't mention my memory config. I got > a Color NeXTstation (non-turbo) and it uses _8_ 72-pin > SIMMs. It can't use double sided SIMMs because they're > too close together. Nope. That's how it was designed. 72 pin SIMMs were new on the market at the time it was designed. The machine takes 1 or 4 Mbyte 72 pin page mode SIMMs rated at 80 nsec. SIMMs must be installed in pairs of the same size. -- Mike Paquette (mpaque AT wco.com ; Yank that .spa-am and nospam to reply.) Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black printer putting out speckles Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:44:48 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5q5nu0$fna$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5q4e6n$555$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.2.83.40 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) In <5q4e6n$555$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Lee A l t e n b e r g wrote: > I bought a refurbished NeXT Laser Printer, and after about 400 pages, > black specks started appearing on the printed pages. I took out the > removable felt pad from the printer, and replaced it with a new one, and > the problem disappeared. The pad had a lot of gunk on it. Now, about > 100 pages later, it has reappeared. I am using an HP 92295A EP-S > cartridge. Other than the specks, the pages look perfect. sounds like the cart is dying.... > Could this problem be due to something wrong with the fuser? Otherwise, > what would be the cause? Any tips will be greatly appreciated. not the fuser... that controls how pages go in and out of the machine... actually I think the fuser only controls the out part..... If it's not the toner, I don't know what it might be.... if it is hot/humid where the printer is, that could cause the toner stuff to clump.... TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT DSP port pinout? Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33c4588e.0@fiji.easyway.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:13:12 GMT Lines: 28 In article <33c4588e.0@fiji.easyway.net> jimbo@easyway.net (James C. Brost) writes: > Hi, > > Does anyone have a pinout for the NeXT DSP port on Black Hardware? > Also, any software written to use this port? > Pin 1 SCK Pin 9 GND Pin 2 SRD Pin 10 GND Pin 3 STD Pin 11 GND Pin 4 SCLK Pin 12 SC2 Pin 5 RxD Pin 13 SC1 Pin 6 TxD Pin 14 SC0 Pin 7 +12V, .5A Pin 15 GND Pin 8 -12V, .1A There is no use for software without hardware, therefore you should ask about systems or solutions. The ones I can remember: TTYDSP serial port extension, mix modem and telephony extensions, Digital Ears sound acquisition/replay, Daydream Macintosh converter, Hayes ISDN Extender... BTW, you need the SoundKit if you plan to write software for the m56k that sits on the other end of that plug. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 s, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news.fh-harz.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT Printer paper jam Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33C43830.43CF9B02@starpage.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:50:19 GMT Lines: 25 In article <33C43830.43CF9B02@starpage.com> "Jesse D. Hurlbut" writes: > I know there are a couple of fixes out there for NeXT Printers (replace > gear, etc.), but I think this is a different problem. My printer feeds > about three inches of paper from the paper tray, then stalls and > declares a paper jam. Is this a problem anyone else has had? is there > an easy fix? > This effect has FAQ status. The rubber of the intake roller has lost its grip. Several cures have been reported, all of'em work in some way. AFAIK, there is no published evaluation on their effectiveness and effort on the Net, so make your own choice... The "professional" method: cleanse rubber roller, then apply a liquid called rubber revitalizer. The "brutal" method: cleanse and roughen up with sand paper. The "tough" method: remove the axle and change the orientation of the rubber roller, then reassemble. There are possibly even more. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: toezmysoul@aol.com (Toezmysoul) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next Laser Printer Repair? Date: 11 Jul 1997 17:04:05 GMT Lines: 11 Message-ID: <19970711170401.NAA11071@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com My laser printer finally developed a problem (its in the output path it doesn't pull the paper all the way through anymore) Can someone tell me who is repairing these things now? Also, this is probably a stupid question but is their anyway to use the Next printer with a Power Mac? Thanks for any help, j. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!in2p3.fr!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!ubnnews.unisource.ch!newssrv.ita.tip.net!mikasa.iol.it!news From: qmax@iol.it (Massimo Quattrocchi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 4.5 Gb SCSI2 HDD with NextStep HELP Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:26:33 GMT Organization: Italia Online Lines: 18 Message-ID: <33c6798b.142684@news.iol.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.45.3.93 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Hello, my name's Max. I've just purchased a SEAGATE 4.5Gb FastSCSI2 Hard Disk Drive for my NextStep Workstation, but I've many problems installin' it. The Adaptec 2940 BIOS recognise the HDD correctly, and the same things happens with the disk command, with "disk" I've formatted the drive for a single big partition, but rebooting the OS a new SCSI disk appear, and after the initialization, my 4.5Gb become a 1.77 Gb. What happen ? Wich is the right way to add the HDD to my system ??? Many thanks in advance, Max. -------------------------------------------------------------------- - Max Quattrocchi -- http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/5899 - --- E-Mail: qmax@iol.it -- AmprNet: iw2dvl@ir2vat.ampr.org --- --- I-Phone: QMax -- AX25 Mail: IW2DVL@IW2FPO.ILOM.ITA.EU --- ------------------------------------------------------------ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed5.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!llnews.ll.mit.edu!usenet From: mcharg@ll.mit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BuildDisk, OS 4.2 won't recognize Seagate drive size Date: 11 Jul 97 16:00:10 Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory Lines: 10 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain HELP! I can't complete my OpenStep 4.2 Installation. I have managed to initialize my Seagate ST34371N-512 in a variety of ways (mostly by following NeXTanswers #1533 and #1849) and it mounts correctly under 4.0. In all cases the first partition size is greater than 1 GB. But when I go to BuildDisk, it reports the disk size as 52 MB and attempts to create a swap disk. The same is true of the 4.2 installation process - I get past the initial installation of essentials, but when the system reboots, it refuses to complete, claiming I don't have eno ugh space. The browser gets the size right as does /usr/etc/disk. I've searched NeXTanswers to no avail. Any suggestions? Jeff McHarg MIT Lincoln Laboratory mcharg@ll.mit.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: luomat+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next Laser Printer Repair? Date: 11 Jul 1997 19:46:32 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5q62io$1vd$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <19970711170401.NAA11071@ladder01.news.aol.com> Reply-To: luomat+next@luomat.peak.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.2.83.40 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: toezmysoul@aol.com In <19970711170401.NAA11071@ladder01.news.aol.com> Toezmysoul wrote: > My laser printer finally developed a problem (its in the output path it > doesn't pull the paper all the way through anymore) Can someone tell me > who is repairing these things now? Um... you? To send it to DecisionOne (which took over from BellAtlantic) would charge about as much as getting a new one... maybe more There are instructions for getting a new fuser gear (which is probably what is worn out) and fixing it on my web page. > Also, this is probably a stupid question but is their anyway to use the > Next printer with a Power Mac? You might be able to set up Caper or something like it and hook your NeXT to your Mac.... but if you mean connect the printer directly to the PowerMac, no that is not possible. TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsgate.nytimes.com!not-for-mail From: Scott Klein Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Use MEgapixel Monitor w/ PC Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:27:07 -0400 Organization: The New York Times Company Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33C6971B.E327CFA2@nytimes.com> References: <5pcpj1$u8f@news.cc.oberlin.edu> <01bc8797$91dca820$8422a8c0@cube154a> NNTP-Posting-Host: 170.149.162.53 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) You should also try http://www.ultraspec.com -- they have a 13W3 to VGA adapter. /sk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed5.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!llnews.ll.mit.edu!usenet From: mcharg@ll.mit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 4.5 Gb SCSI2 HDD with NextStep HELP Date: 11 Jul 97 16:34:23 Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory Lines: 9 Distribution: fj Message-ID: References: <33c6798b.142684@news.iol.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, Max. Mach cannot recognize hard disks larger than 2 GB, so OS partitioned your disk into smaller sections. Only the first one is automatically mounted. It has some space reserved (should be about 10%) so that you never really run completely out of space. Thus, your 1.77 GB result. Other partitions should have the rest of your drive. For more information, please see NeXTanswers #1533 and #1849 (http://www.next.com/). Jeff McHarg MIT Lincoln Laboratory mcharg@ll.mit.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!shore!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Dell Pentium II machines and NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Date: 12 Jul 1997 01:45:05 GMT Organization: HTI Lines: 51 Message-ID: <5q6nj1$4q9@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <5q16op$n51@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.hot.com In-Reply-To: <5q16op$n51@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 I've been using a Dell 233MHz Pentium II at my client. You will need a sound card since the OPENSTEP driver doesn't support the onboard sound. The SCSI configuration should work fine. We have an EIDE configuration and the NEC CD-ROM (boy do I hate these) doesn't work. SCSI is the way to go but is more expensive. Robert On 07/09/97, Mark Doyle wrote: >Hi all, > >Dell seems to have some very good prices on their new Pentium II machines >these days and I am in the market for a new Intel machine. Anyone know of any >pitfalls of trying to run 3.3 and/or 4.2 on a Dell? I would be getting: > >Dell Dimension XPS with: > >266MHz Pentium II MiniTower w/512k Cache and Yamaha sound >32MB EDO Parity RAM >Matrox Millennium II PCI Video Board with 4MB WRAM >2GB UW SCSI Hard Drive with 2940UW Controller >Microsoft PS2 Intellimouse >3Com 3C900 PCI Combo 10MB Etherlink >8X SCSI CD-ROM (Requires SCSI Hard Dr) >Yamaha OP4L Wavetable upgrade > >plus other irrelevant stuff.... > >Is it safe to assume the SCSI controller will be an Adaptec? >Will I have any chance of using the sound with NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? > >I presume most of the rest are safe choices... > >Thanks for any info. > >Cheers, >Mark >doyle@aps.org > -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: Matthew Reichman Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black hardware laser printer, jams most of the time. Date: 12 Jul 1997 02:07:00 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5q6os4$epk@suriname.earthlink.net> References: <33C3DF55.4BA7A2B9@fuller.com> <5q33t5$ctc$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Reply-To: Matthew Reichman NNTP-Posting-Host: pool059-max21.la-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(n) Cc: tvz@Princeton.EDU In <5q33t5$ctc$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote: > But before getting involved in that, I just reached in and clean the > roller with alcohol and a cotton ball. Don't know if there is any > reason not to do this, but the printer stops jamming. Actually, I would not recommend alcohol. This will further dry out the rubber. 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The original subject was: }Subject: ..$Free Cash Grants... #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT DSP port pinout? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:06:28 GMT References: <33c4588e.0@fiji.easyway.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 20 In article <33c4588e.0@fiji.easyway.net>, James C. Brost wrote: >Hi, > > Does anyone have a pinout for the NeXT DSP port on Black Hardware? It's in the developer documentation which, unfortunately, I don't have installed at the moment. >Also, any software written to use this port? > There's TTYDSP (a high-speed serial port), the various high-quality digital audio boxes, Digital Eye, maybe others. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: SIMMs in mono slab Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:29:21 GMT References: <5q315h$5ti@lace.colorado.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 19 In article <5q315h$5ti@lace.colorado.edu>, PB Schechter wrote: >I want to add memory to my slab (non-turbo): Does it matter how I do >this? In other words, must SIMMs be added in pairs, in fourse, or can >they be added singly? Your machine uses 30-pin SIMMs? Then it's in fours. > Also, if I combine 1 meg and 4 meg SIMMs, does >it matter what goes where? As long as each group is the same, no, it shouldn't matter. That's not to say that it *doesn't* matter. :) At least it's an easy thing to check. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Cube vs Station Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:57:35 GMT References: <5q3731$obd@clarknet.clark.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 21 In article <5q3731$obd@clarknet.clark.net>, Stephen Balbach wrote: > >What is the diffrence between a Cube and a Station (other then one is a >borg and the other a pizza). > Non-Turbo cubes can support the optical drive (stations and Turbo cubes cannot), there is more internal expansion space in a cube, the cube can handle the NeXTdimension board, non-Turbo cubes can hold 64MB memory while most non-Turbo slabs can handle only 32 (Turbo and Turboid machines can handle 128.) Slabs can use Pyro accelerator boards without annoying physical hackery (I don't know about Nitro). All slabs came with a floppy drive; only some cubes did. Thant's about it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 4.5 Gb SCSI2 HDD with NextStep HELP Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33c6798b.142684@news.iol.it> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:40:21 GMT Lines: 33 In article <33c6798b.142684@news.iol.it> qmax@iol.it (Massimo Quattrocchi) writes: > Hello, my name's Max. > > I've just purchased a SEAGATE 4.5Gb FastSCSI2 Hard Disk Drive > for my NextStep Workstation, but I've many problems installin' > it. The Adaptec 2940 BIOS recognise the HDD correctly, and the > same things happens with the disk command, with "disk" I've > formatted the drive for a single big partition, but rebooting > the OS a new SCSI disk appear, and after the initialization, my > 4.5Gb become a 1.77 Gb. What happen ? Wich is the right way to > add the HDD to my system ??? > The ever recurring FAQ! On NEXT-/OPENSTEP the maximum partition size is 2 GB. Up to NS 3.2 'disk', and therefore BuildDisk.app, could only handle drives up to 2 GB by means of the built in heuristics. NS 3.3 raised that to 4 GB. All other case work only in "expert mode", i.e. by adding a matching entry to /etc/disktab. There is a nice article by Mike Tacchi titled "Adding on without flipping out" discribing this procedure. It used to be on NeXTAnswers, and I think I got my copy from the Peanuts Archive Discs. What happened to you is possibly just the default conf, i.e. two patitions of 2 GB each and the rest dropped, of which only the first was visible through automounting. You should read the sys admin docs on disks and mounting filesystems to learn more about this. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Can't boot system! Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33C56FEF.1247@npl.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:57:26 GMT Lines: 44 In article <33C56FEF.1247@npl.org> Carl Jabido writes: > i just picked up a color nextstation and i'm having problems > getting it to boot. > > the hard drive was removed because the original owner > upgraded it to 3.3 for me. when i got the computer, it didn't > have the cables for the hard drive so i dropped by compusa > and got an internal scsi cable. problem is the only one they > had was for two scsi drives. does this make a difference? > No, not really. At least as long as you get no problems storing the exess length safely (remember, you cant coil it up, only Z-fold - inductance!). But what you must make sure is that the internal drive has the termination switched on. > anyway, here's my problem. at first it was loading from > the network because the boot command was 'en'. i changed > the boot command to 'sd' and it went to the scsi drive. > so now i turned on the verbose mode and here's what it says: > 'boot sd(0,0,0) diagnostics' and everytime the hard drive > light blinks, it says 'sc: didn't complete'. the hard drive > looks like a 1992 apple hard drive, mac i'm assuming. does > this have anything to do with the scsi cable? i turned on > testing the scsi and it passes. > Your boot monitor settings aren't ok. The "diagnostics" code was never delivered, at least not in a usable way. The boot command string should read 'boot sd(0,0,0) sdmach' and the sc command terminates since the specified boot file could not be found (boot ROM error messages are terse and rather unspecific, I know). I'm quite sure the problem comes from a wrong setting in the 'p' option of the boot monitor configuration. Your disk drive is fine if the system boots after issuing the command 'bsd (0,0,0) sdmach' at the boot monitor prompt. Yust in case you happened to become desperate: if you remove the lithium battery from the motherboard for an hour or two and then reinsert, the boot monitor conf should have been reset to a neutral factory setting that should work fine. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Cube vs Station Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5q3731$obd@clarknet.clark.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 12:04:44 GMT Lines: 19 In article <5q3731$obd@clarknet.clark.net> stephen@clark.net (Stephen Balbach) writes: > > What is the diffrence between a Cube and a Station (other then one is a > borg and the other a pizza). > The Cube has some more extensive expansion options, like a bus based backplane. Unfortunately, not many of them materialized (the NeXTDimension colour frame grabber/display, for instance). In our days only the better SCSI extensibility remains as substancial advantage. It must be held against the fact that most Cubes have no floppy drives built in and ODs are no longer supported as boot media for the installation program, rendering a unbootable Cube as lame duck... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: SCSI2, SCSI3, Ultra, Fast & Wide 4 Black Box Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33C51751.302A@usa.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 12:11:33 GMT Lines: 17 In article <33C51751.302A@usa.net> jeff hepp writes: > I was wondering what types of SCSI drives work with Black hardware and > which to avoid. I'm looking at a 2 gig Quantum Fireball ST that is > SCSI3. Any pointers to FAQs would be appreciated. > Black hardware was built to operate in SCSI-1, asynch mode. Any hard disk that can't operate in this mode is unbootable. Most modern drives do, some automatically, some by means of configuration switches (even in firmware like some IBM models), and some don't. The FAQs are on Peanuts . -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.117.192.21!news.utelfla.com!opal.xtalwind.net!xtal81.xtalwind.net!user From: cms@xtalwind.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Network Question... ************* Date: 12 Jul 1997 05:04:37 GMT Organization: CMS Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: xtal81.xtalwind.net X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Can one cluster several Next systems together..? if so, how.. if not why... We are looking to purchase several. Rick CMS #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: Timothy J Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Network Question... ************* Date: 12 Jul 1997 19:55:57 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5q8ngd$ked$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.2.83.40 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: cms@xtalwind.net In cms@xtalwind.net wrote: why is this '*************' in the Subject line? > Can one cluster several Next systems together..? yes > if so, how.. Ethernet. > We are looking to purchase several. DeepspaceTech, Spherical Solutions, and several other companies sell them in quantity. James Moosmann may also have some... I haven't see him for awhile on the marketplace group. Checkout my bookmarks page for NeXT hardware site. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!europa.clark.net!mis1!worldnet.att.net!58.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net!user From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Dell Pentium II machines and NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:24:12 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <5q16op$n51@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> <5q6nj1$4q9@fridge-nf0.shore.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.116.129.58 I don't think OpenSTEP supports the Millenium II. Check Rhapsody DR1 when it is released. Might as well buy an Apple machine so we can be sure we have a Rhapsody OS to use. -- -- Ishir Bhan (ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu) http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.duesseldorf.ecrc.net!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!nntp.gmd.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!not-for-mail From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New Disk, new problems Date: 11 Jul 1997 10:35:14 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <5q5292$eos$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> Reply-To: Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: s3m171.dialup.rwth-aachen.de Lines: 56 Hi out there ! I need some help, and I hope it's out there ! Well, I bought a new Seagate ST52160N, and I went through all the disktab etc.-processes. I used disk -i -b to install a filesystem on two partitions. One is 100MB (part2), and the other the rest(part1). The 100MB is only used for swapping, so I put /swap/swapfile lowat=52428800 hiwat=94371840 prefer #50 Meg lowat 90 Meg hiwat into /etc/swaptab. It's all done while booting up, BUT the swapfile stays at 0MB size all the time, and doesn't do anything, while all the other swapfiles are swapping happily (or at least show 16MB size, as intended in swaptab) And, yes, I mounted the disks correctly in fstab.... (I can give all the information needed, even the prompts from disk etc.., if anyone needs it) Why is this ?? Has anyone a clue why this happens ? But this is just my FIRST problem... I made a copy of my root disk to the new disk 1:1 with a piped gnutar gnutar cvfl - / | (cd /BigDisk ; gnutar xpf -) And the new disk could boot happily after that...BUT The second problem is, that, after booting from my NEW disk, my ppp (Gatekeeper) isn't able to use my modem for dialling automatically. The pppup-script aborts because the modem gives BUSY when it tries to send the dial-code. SO, when I BOOT from the NEW disk, neither of the copies of gatekeeper (on the old or new disk) can work with the modem, just dialling by hand works.... WHEN, on the other hand, I boot from my OLD DISK again, both copies of Gatekeeper and the pppup-scripts can use the modem for dialling in, and there's no problem. So, where is the F****** problem !? Is this because I copied /dev/* with gnutar ? Doesn't gnutar serve for copying a disk completely (even though all /dev/ where copied) or should I use builddisk to do some of the bits first etc... Any help welcome or pointers to the information I need I' more or less desperate... (it's been days of struggling with the system as I also had two faulty new disks before etc...) Thanks in advance Martin #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: Timothy J Luoma Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Disk, new problems Date: 13 Jul 1997 02:13:12 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5q9djo$skg$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5q5292$eos$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.2.83.40 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.1 Beta(i) Cc: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de In <5q5292$eos$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> Martin Klocke wrote: > /swap/swapfile lowat=52428800 hiwat=94371840 prefer > #50 Meg lowat 90 Meg hiwat You need to change this to: /swap/swapfile prefer,lowat=52428800,hiwat=94371840 without the commas the hiwat and prefer are not seen. Also: I would make the swapfile using 'mkfile' to create it at the lowat. I would actually make it as close to the hiwat as I could, because it will cut down on the processing... it is just going to be used for swapping, why not? > WHEN, on the other hand, I boot from my OLD DISK again, both copies of > Gatekeeper and the pppup-scripts can use the modem for dialling in, and > there's no problem. > So, where is the F****** problem !? > Is this because I copied /dev/* with gnutar ? could be. I'd run do cd /etc && MAKEDEV std and see if that helps. Or you TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!wuff.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!feed1.news.innet.be!INbe.net!news.be.innet.net!INbe.net!ldubois From: ldubois@syndetics.be (Luc Dubois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3C590 3COM Etherlink III PCI driver? Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:47:13 +0200 Organization: Syndetics Research Lines: 23 Message-ID: <199707131247134703670@pool011-104.innet.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool011-104.innet.be X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.2 Hi, I've just finished installation of OpenStep 4.2 on a Gateway G6-180. The only thing NOT working now is my connection to the network. The supplied drivers don't seem to do the trick for my PCI ethernet adapter (3C590-COMBO). They all refer to a type 3C509 (v4.0.3). In DOS/Windows I use a driver version 4.1 supplied by 3COM. Would anybody know what driver I should use for this card and where to get it? I search NextAnswers but couldn't find anything. I also searched 3COM's site, also to no avail. DejaNews indicates that as far back as April 96 people have been asking for this driver. Is Next/Apple working on this? Is there some way to tweak one of the supplied Next drivers to make it work with the card? Should I buy a new adapter? I still need to use this card from within Windows too. Much appreciated, Luc -- Syndetics Research | Synema(tm) Director (c) 1992-1997. Thesaurus Herderstraat 1 | construction software for the Information 3740 Bilzen - Belgium | Retrieval industry (Macintosh-only). #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!infeed2.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.imperium.net!usenet From: Alan Dail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Prelude to Rhapsody on Virtual PC Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 11:07:06 -0400 Organization: Imperium Internet Lines: 35 Message-ID: <33C8EF13.25FABA4E@imperium.net> Reply-To: alandail@imperium.net NNTP-Posting-Host: lisbon40.imperium.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:29729 comp.sys.next.programmer:25382 Hi, I bought Virtual PC for the sole purpose of running the Prelude to Rhapsody release of OpenStep, but after 5 days of trying, I cannot get it to install. I created a 350 meg drive, run in a 60 meg partition, start the installation, after an hour or two I make it to the point where I eject the installation floppy and reboot so that I can configure my system and complete the installation. after annother two hours (which is MUCH longer than I expected this part to take), I get the message that the reboot is complete, but never get a login window or the configuration app. It just sits there forever saying the reboot is complete without doing anything else. Has anyone been able to install OpenStep with Virtual PC and does anyone have any clue as to what could be the problem. I tried calling Connectix and was first told that they don't offer support for OpenStep and was then told that they would refer my call to their level 2 support people, but that it will take at least a week for someone to get back to me. I would greatly appreciate any help that anyone could offer as I really need to get this installed before Wednesday. I have a PowerMac 8500/120 running system 7.6.1 with 80 megs of RAM, a PC Compatibility Card, a DAT tape drive (I mention this because it appears when I try to boot OpenStep in verbose mode that it is configuring a tape drive, which I didn't expect). Please respond via email as my internet provider loses more news postings than it recieves, so I will likely never see the reply if y ou only respond via the newsgroup. Thanks! Alan Dail, developer #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.sovam.com!sovam!demos!news.uni-stuttgart.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Focus on Hitachi 21" monitor Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5q6p50$qes@slip.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:36:23 GMT Lines: 22 In article <5q6p50$qes@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > Hi, > > I recently upgraded my 040/25 cube with a ND board > and a 21" Hitachi monitor. > > I'm really please with the color, but in text, especially > on the lower right portion of the screen, appears with > a light shadow. > > How does one adjust the focus? Is it possible? > Just in case you know how to handle an opened TV set (DANGER! High Voltage): If you remove the plasic cover at the back of the monitor (four screws) you'll find a very well organized metal case underneath. All servicable controls are clearly marked on the metal frame. And better don't use metal tools to turn the screws... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.fh-mannheim.de!news.uni-mannheim.de!news.rhein-neckar.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!ka.sub.net!nextone!nitezki From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: SIMMs in mono slab Message-ID: Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Reply-To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:41:09 GMT Lines: 27 In article dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > In article <5q315h$5ti@lace.colorado.edu>, > PB Schechter wrote: > >I want to add memory to my slab (non-turbo): Does it matter how I do > >this? In other words, must SIMMs be added in pairs, in fourse, or can > >they be added singly? > > Your machine uses 30-pin SIMMs? Then it's in fours. > > > Also, if I combine 1 meg and 4 meg SIMMs, does > >it matter what goes where? > > As long as each group is the same, no, it shouldn't matter. That's > not to say that it *doesn't* matter. :) At least it's an easy thing > to check. > Wrong, it matters! The larger (i.e. 4 MB) SIMMs must sit in bank 0 which is the one closer to the power supply. Otherwise the memory in bank 1 would be taken for 1MB SIMMs just like the ones in bank 0. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!newsgate.unisource.nl!halley.pi.net!news From: jacob Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Asian Ladies Date: 13 Jul 1997 19:26:51 GMT Organization: World Access/Planet Internet Message-ID: <5qba5r$rtk@halley.pi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.220.210.27 Lines: 10 I've found the pefect site with nude Asian ladies. Much more than you can find in any newsgroup. http://home.pi.net/~sappie/playboy.htm #################################################################### From: a11@a.a Subject: $$$$$$$ NEW SYSTEM, BETTER THAN "ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST" $$$$$$$ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: inselgate-u.unibe.ch Message-ID: <33c92475.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 13 Jul 97 18:54:45 GMT Lines: 104 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!in2p3.fr!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!news.unibe.ch!inselgate-u.unibe.ch I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay" problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional "loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month. Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8 Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40 Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168 Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680 Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 *** Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10 Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60 Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310 Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310 Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 *** Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12 Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84 Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516 Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108 Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 *** Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14 Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112 Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798 Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600 Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 *** Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. It DOES matter that they are active on that day EVERY month. The key to this is DUPLICATION! You must treat this as a business. If you treat it like a hobby that is how it will treat you. You could even organize small meetings with your people and their prospects and work with your leaders. Think of how easy this would be for you, how reasonable this is, and of how good the chances are of it working for you. You may need to hire someone to open all the envelopes. NOTE: I decided on $2 instead of $1 because it is more feasible and it won't matter much for someone to send $2 as opposed to $1. Also I was against $5 as that becomes too expensive to duplicate. Mail $2 every month with a piece of paper saying "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can" to the following needy people: #1 Robert Jezil 114 Jefferson Ave. Slidell, LA 70460 #2 Phil Walther Jr. 9495 Annapolis Lane North Maple Grove, MN 55369 #3 C. E. Burkman 170 University Ave. W Suite 12-129 Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3E9 #4 A. Bailey 1207 Reeves Road Plainfield, IN 46168 #5 J. Martin P.O. Box 2292 Reston, Va. 20195 #################################################################### From: a3@a.a Subject: $$ LOAN BUSINESS, EASY MONTHLY INCOME, NO BRAINER $ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: inselgate-u.unibe.ch Message-ID: <33c92485.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 13 Jul 97 18:55:01 GMT Lines: 104 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!in2p3.fr!news-ge.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!news.unibe.ch!inselgate-u.unibe.ch I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay" problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional "loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month. Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8 Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40 Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168 Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680 Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 *** Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10 Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60 Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310 Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310 Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 *** Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12 Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84 Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516 Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108 Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 *** Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14 Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112 Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798 Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600 Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 *** Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. It DOES matter that they are active on that day EVERY month. The key to this is DUPLICATION! You must treat this as a business. If you treat it like a hobby that is how it will treat you. You could even organize small meetings with your people and their prospects and work with your leaders. Think of how easy this would be for you, how reasonable this is, and of how good the chances are of it working for you. You may need to hire someone to open all the envelopes. NOTE: I decided on $2 instead of $1 because it is more feasible and it won't matter much for someone to send $2 as opposed to $1. Also I was against $5 as that becomes too expensive to duplicate. Mail $2 every month with a piece of paper saying "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can" to the following needy people: #1 Robert Jezil 114 Jefferson Ave. Slidell, LA 70460 #2 Phil Walther Jr. 9495 Annapolis Lane North Maple Grove, MN 55369 #3 C. E. Burkman 170 University Ave. W Suite 12-129 Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3E9 #4 A. Bailey 1207 Reeves Road Plainfield, IN 46168 #5 J. Martin P.O. Box 2292 Reston, Va. 20195