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From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: what's with OmniWeb ??
Date: 31 Dec 1994 03:04:53 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3e2hol$h6h@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com> <3e1lg2$dmb@news.acns.nwu.edu>
J-weiss@nwu.edu wrote...
>In article <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com>, Tom Meyer <tmeyer@mcs.com> wrote:
>>What's worse is "ftp.omnigroup.com" doesn't exist and "omnigroup.com" is
>>unreachable.
>
>What I did because I could not get FTP to work, was to set my system
>clock back before 12/25/94 and used OMNIWEB to download a new
>copy via WWW.
Another alternative is to check out ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps. The newest released version of
OmniWeb is mirrored there, and that's where I got my copy when I saw
the expiration notice and couldn't get into ftp.omnigroup.com.
First Intel, now Omnigroup. Seems everyone is having math problems
nowadays! ;-)
Joe
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From: pp001435@interramp.com (David L. Neumann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preferences.app - Multiple Displays
Date: 31 Dec 1994 02:28:30 GMT
Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link
Distribution: na
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References: <3e1q3g$s5r@cobber.cord.edu>
In article <3e1q3g$s5r@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
writes:
>
> When is Preferences.app's Multiple Display going to be "Applicable".
> On NeXTstations and PCs, the panel just says "Not Applicable." Is
> this different on dual-headed NeXTDimension systems?
It does indeed. I run a ND with a color and mono display side by side as one
832x(1132+1132) worksapce. The Preferences panel lets you orient your monitors as
side by side, diagonal, up/down, etc by dragging icons of the screens around.
NeXTtv (when playing live video) can't map to the B&W memory and will display
moving images on the ND VRAM but gives empty black on any part of the TV view that
straddles into the mono screen. I believe it will work with as many as four
monitors but I've never tested this.
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From: emoss@unlinfo.unl.edu (eric moss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Unix idiot needs unix expert
Date: 31 Dec 1994 04:00:03 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3e2l03$ja1@crcnis3.unl.edu>
Summary: can't get unix expert mode from root
Hope this isn't another one from the FAQs that I never read.
Using NSFIP, I try to set Unix expert mode in Preferences.app. It
won't set it, and there is no Save to help me. Is it normal for the
root to not be able to see all the hidden files? It makes it HARD to
do anything with anything.
Any help is appreciated.
From: sb@teleport.com (Jim Sims)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do you kill the "Get new mail" button in Mail.app?
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 20:43:29 -0800
Organization: -
Message-ID: <sb-3012942043290001@ip-vanc-17.teleport.com>
I tried out PopOver.app and I think that is when this button appeared.
I've removed PopOver but the button stays, and I cannot get uucp mail from
/usr/spool/.
Any suggestions? Thanks
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail shortcomings?
Date: 30 Dec 1994 21:36:38 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Message-ID: <3e2ql6$dtp@samsara.circus.com>
References: <3dv4v6$igd@news.cais.com>
In article <3dv4v6$igd@news.cais.com>, <ted@cais.com> wrote:
>Hi.
>
> Though MIME is a great feature of 3.3 Mail, I'm scratching my head
>as to why other 'obvious' functions of a decent mail UA aren't in it such
>as quoting original message in replies and including signature files (like
>pine)..
>
> The folks at NeXT were great in helping me do .sig files using
>terminal services but we're all stumped on how to do quoted replies.
Wait a minute... what's wrong with selecting the text, and then choosing
"Services->Terminal->Wrap and Reply"? This is what I do all the time!
It does format things to a little bit narrower (I think 60 columns or so),
but I've never found this to be a problem....
Upon examination, this service is doing the following:
fmt 55 58 | sed "s/^/> /"
I changed this to accept Rich Text as well, with no problems.
So... what kind of a system are you on where this isn't working, and
what did you do to it? :)
>Grateful for any help...
Well, this is the oldest one in the book, but "it works just fine on my
system"...
>Ted Okada
>Director
>Washington Bureau
>Food For The Hungry Int'l
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: NEWTON and NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Dec31.040427.1877@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 04:04:27 GMT
I figured the subject has not come up in a little while. What is going on
with NEXTSTEP and Newton connections.
Thanks
Wes
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From: david@zion.com
Subject: NEXTSTEP on portables
Message-ID: <D1MLLJ.4n3@zion.com>
Keywords: portables
Sender: david@zion.com (David J. Ferrero)
Organization: Zion Software & Consulting
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 13:32:07 GMT
If you use NEXTSTEP on laptops/portables...
Please send any info you can to help guide my purchase...
david@zion.com
David Ferrero
From: dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEWTON and NEXTSTEP
Date: 31 Dec 1994 10:39:39 -0500
Organization: Interpath -- Public Access UNIX for North Carolina
Message-ID: <dcl.788888314@mercury>
References: <1994Dec31.040427.1877@weston.com>
jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes:
>I figured the subject has not come up in a little while. What is going on
>with NEXTSTEP and Newton connections.
I asked this a while back, and the response was that Apple won't release
the protocol, so NOTHING is going on with Newton and NeXT... :( As I have
both, I could REALLY use the kit...Apple!!!! Are you listening???!?
Daniel
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: NEWTON and NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D1or2t.KHH@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <1994Dec31.040427.1877@weston.com> <dcl.788888314@mercury>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 17:25:41 GMT
Tech Support--Daniel (dcl@mercury.interpath.net) wrote:
: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes:
: >I figured the subject has not come up in a little while. What is going on
: >with NEXTSTEP and Newton connections.
: I asked this a while back, and the response was that Apple won't release
: the protocol, so NOTHING is going on with Newton and NeXT... :( As I have
: both, I could REALLY use the kit...Apple!!!! Are you listening???!?
: Interpath Technical Support
There are PD mac and PC based package downloaders out there ( I know that the
source for the PC version is available). Writing a NeXT version is something
I've wanted to do for a while...but time is something I have at a premium
right now. Shouldn't bee _too_ hard.
later
j
From: dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEWTON and NEXTSTEP
Date: 31 Dec 1994 13:02:10 -0500
Organization: Interpath -- Public Access UNIX for North Carolina
Message-ID: <dcl.788896802@mercury>
References: <1994Dec31.040427.1877@weston.com> <dcl.788888314@mercury> <D1or2t.KHH@cunews.carleton.ca>
jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright) writes:
>There are PD mac and PC based package downloaders out there ( I know that the
>source for the PC version is available). Writing a NeXT version is something
>I've wanted to do for a while...but time is something I have at a premium
>right now. Shouldn't bee _too_ hard.
Please either tell me where I can get the source for PC versions, or get it
yourself and put it at ftp.interpath.net:/tmp/dcl
I'll begin working on it as soon as I get the PC version's source.
Thanks!
Daniel
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From: figmet@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP on portables
Message-ID: <figmetD1p1Bw.8n6@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D1MLLJ.4n3@zion.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 21:07:08 GMT
david@zion.com wrote:
: If you use NEXTSTEP on laptops/portables...
: Please send any info you can to help guide my purchase...
: david@zion.com
: David Ferrero
make em public
ericd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Re: NEWTON and NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Dec31.214615.938@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
References: <D1or2t.KHH@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 21:46:15 GMT
In article <D1or2t.KHH@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
writes:
> Tech Support--Daniel (dcl@mercury.interpath.net) wrote:
Jason,
Your email address hits my machine as jason@stimpy. If you have a chance,
please email me your real address so that I may help update you on the
Newton + NEXTSTEP effort.
My hope is that we can utilize all resources who are interested and
avaialable to solve this problem and get this working. From your note, it
seems that your time is tight; however, you have already given some good
insight, and can probalby give some good advice over time.
Thanks
Wes
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From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: latex2html and ghostscript on NeXT?
Date: 1 Jan 1995 00:19:59 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3e4sff$mrv@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Has anyone successfully compiled the enhanced version of latex2html
on a 3.x (x=1,2,3) machine? The enhanced version requires ghostscript
and the pbmplus library in addition to LaTeX and dvips (the enhanced
version can convert LaTeX sourcefiles that include equations, tables
and figures into HTML. I have the pbmplus library, but haven't had
much luck compiling ghostscript.
Also, it occurs to me that someone may have figured out a way to
take use Preview.app rather than ghostscript to convert the ps files
into a graphics file format.
Any help appreciated.
Ed Zalta
Senior Researcher
CSLI
Stanford University
From: ssl@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Syzygy Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Working Copy of PixelMagician?
Date: 31 Dec 1994 18:05:15 -0700
Organization: Alberta SuperNet Inc
Message-ID: <3e4v4b$4qb@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca>
Does anyone know if I can ftp this from somewhere? I've got a Demo copy,
but it sorta sucks. Thanks in advance!
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From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bug in Configure.app?
Date: 30 Dec 1994 23:51:15 GMT
Organization: Synergy Communication Inc.
Message-ID: <3e26dj$gr4@legba.synergy.net>
References: <1994Dec23.020342.2616@galois.mit.edu>
This is true in 3.2, I've seen it many times. The error is a minor DPS
subsystem error, which couldn't possibly cause a crash. (If I understand it
right.) If you look up lockFocus in the developer documentation, you begin
to get a picture of what must be going on.
The message, itself, is pretty clear, too. There was a view object that had
been lockFocus'd so that DPS drawing could be done within it. When you
click on "done," the app begins its cleanup procedure, which includes
freeing all of the memory that its objects are taking up. Evidently, this
instance of the View class was freed while the DPS subsystem still had it
marked for a place for DPS operators to draw in.
So, the DPS system says "Hey, don't be so rude! Next time tell me that
you're done with the view before taking it away!" It shouldn't crash the
machine, though.
Michael J. Hopkins (mjh@math.mit.edu) wrote:
: Look back in the terminal window. I find the error message
^^^^^^^^ -----> I find it in the Workspace manager
Console
: Assertion failed: You removed a View from the View hierarchy that had
: been lockFocus'ed
: Forgive my stupidity, but is this bad? I have been having a lot of
: crashes on a machine of mine, and I wonder if this might be part of
: what is going on.
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From: hannes@ping.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteNow Question
Date: 1 Jan 1995 18:23:08 GMT
Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3e6ruc$p1j@pong.ping.at>
References: <3d80ju$npf@news.bu.edu>
Originator: root@esprit
In article <3d80ju$npf@news.bu.edu> dac@engc.bu.edu (David Castanon) writes:
# I recently had a major disk error, and reinitialized my drive, restoring my
old files.
# However, my version of WriteNow (included in original System 2.0) was
corrupted and
# has ceased to work. My current version of the system is 3.2, with Black
hardware.
#
# I am looking for a utility to convert WriteNow files to RTF. Does such a
utility
# exist? Any assistance would be welcome.
# -David
# dac@tawny.bu.edu
#
Try 'wn-rtf' - it's a commandline stdin2stdout filter and can be found inside
the WriteNow.app app-wrapper. Note that if your WriteNow-files are wrappers,
you have to give the 'WNDocument.wn' inside the wrapper as stdin to 'wn-rtf'.
It will produce a RTF-representation on stdout.
eg.:
wn-rtf < ~/Data/SomeText.wn/WNDocument.wn >SomeText.rtf
or
wn-rtf < ~/Data/SomeText.wn >SomeText.rtf
if the document is not a wrapper.
____________________________________
Hannes Tiefenbrunner
hannes@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred)
From: sbrandon@auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC2.8.19 -- compiles!
Date: 1 Jan 1995 20:11:07 GMT
Organization: Internet Company of New Zealand
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3e728s$hic@status>
References: <3dvd64$qp3@status>
For those of you wanting to use IRC on NeXT, v2.8.19 can be compiled after
a few minor changes to the source.
I have not yet managed to get the server to compile (I'm no C/UNIX guru)
but the client seems to work ok.
I have e-mailed (NeXTmail) the changes to several people who have asked,
but with my astronomical e-mail costs this must stop. In a following post
I'll include the changes in a NewsGrazer post. Sorry to those who can't
make use of this.
My setup is NS3.2 (dev) on Motorola NeXT. Not tested on Intel.
Please direct followup discussion to the group. If any C gurus can help
get the server to compile I'm sure that will be helpful.
Once the whole package compiles it should be sent to the archives at orst
etc.
To compile the source, you'll need to find the source package at a local
archive. (IRC.2.8.19.gz)
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NeXTmail welcome!
From: sbrandon@auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC2.8.19 changes -- NewsGrazer post (sorry)
Date: 1 Jan 1995 20:11:22 GMT
Organization: Internet Company of New Zealand
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3e729a$hip@status>
References: <3dvd7f$qp4@status>
Sorry, this does not include the whole package, as my e-mail costs
are very high. It should be very easy to find the source package on a
local archive though.
find: IRC.2.8.19.gz Other versions may/may not work.
Here are the changes to make (all the files have been gzipped, so
you'll have to gunzip them and rename tham as indicated):
replace irc2.8.19/Makefile by this new makefile:
replace irc2.8.19/irc/Makefile by this new makefile:
add the following file, calling it irc2.8.19/include/setup.h
This file is usually automatically generated after you answer a whole
lot of questions.
replace irc2.8.19/doc/ChangeLog by this new file: (documents the
changes I made)
Then in a terminal window, cd to irc2.8.19 and "make client". This
should work! DON'T run the Config script in the irc2.8.19 directory
as I have provided the setup.h file that it creates.
I haven't been able to compile the server, and I don't need it
anyway. If you're a C/UNIX guru that likes a challenge you could help
me out so the whole package can be distributed and/or put on the
archives with compiled binaries.
To start it up, go to the irc2.8.19 directory and type irc <nickname>
<servername> where <servername> might be one of
EFFnet: irc-2.mit.edu
irc.uiuc.edu
irc.colorado.edu
.. or a local one for you.
Any problems, please email back. Or even if you get it working, I'll
be pleased to know.
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From: dchan@dchan.earthlink.net (Derek Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sound for Doom
Date: 1 Jan 1995 21:57:13 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3e78fp$lja@moon.earthlink.net>
Keywords: Doom Sound
I just downloaded the sounds for DOOM from ftp.cs.orst.edu but don't know
how to make them work.
I know that the NeXT version of Doom did not support sound but I think I
remember seeing a post a few months ago that said sound has been included.
Is this true? I've got Doom version 1.2 for NeXT. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.
-Derek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: NEXTSTEP driver for Roland RAP-10
Message-ID: <D1r4rK.GsA@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 00:16:31 GMT
Does anybody out there know of a commercial or free driver for using the
Roland RAP-10 card under NEXTSTEP? In particular, something that supported
General MIDI would be nice. Failing that, if anybody can point me to enough
technical info on the Roland card that would get me started writing my own
driver, I'd happily put that one my psuedo-priority queue of things that I
may or may not get around to having a look at in the next few months.
--
Jerry Kuch EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca
MY GOAL IN LIFE FOR THIS FALL: Acquire the long-awaited Tokyo Marui
remote-controlled Godzilla (from GODZILLA VS. BIOLLANTE) toy... to be
available in Japan in December. It will cost Y49,800. Very expensive.
From: kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth Dyke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Date: 2 Jan 1995 02:45:07 GMT
Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3e7pbj$6d5@news1.best.com>
References: <gj-0101951505050001@gj.irock.com>
Keywords: 3.3, PCI, VLB, Video
In article <gj-0101951505050001@gj.irock.com> gj@irock.com ("G. J.") writes:
> In article <3dmujg$6e@news.blkbox.com>, steve@talus.com wrote:
>
> > We noticed that it was dog slow more than two months ago and we _did_
> > mention it to NeXT. Their comment was that _they_ hadn't noticed any
> > problems and basically blew us off. They also told us that no one else
> > had reported a similar problem. Hmmmm. So much for reporting bugs.
>
> It's slow and jumpy (window drags) with the Diamond Stealth 64 PCI
> (S3 964) too. Kind of a bummer that WinNT 3.5 video performance
> flys on the same card and NS 3.3 sludges along. The color looks
> good though and the OS gives the white box a really cool look!
I'm also having performance problems with the Diamond Stealth 64, but I'm on a
VLB system and not PCI, so I wonder if it's a more general 3.3 display
problem... :( I've tried removing the PCI support drivers (someone else
mentioned that it was supposed to speed things up on non-PCI systems) but that
didn't improve things any. Sounds to me like something got botched in the DPS
subsystem. Ugh. The screwball part is that it's just color windows that are
slow. One would think that 32-bit deep color windows would be the easiest to
drag around as (I hope) they're stored in RAM in the same format that the
graphics cards all use.
-Ken
--
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kcd@jumpgate.com | 3- UIX++++$ E--- K- N++ W--- M--(-) !V -po+ f Y+ 5++
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IRC: Nyx | PGP Public key available via finger | "Just one fix." -Ministry
From: spenton@irie.Colorado.EDU (Steve Penton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDROM - ISO9660 Problems - ReNO
Date: 2 Jan 1995 03:17:09 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3e7r7l$mp6@lace.Colorado.EDU>
Keywords: CDROM,ISO9660,Lost in Audio
Greetings,
I recently purchased a MedaiVision ReNO SCSI2-CDROM for
use with my NeXTstation OS=3.2. I can read HFS and Audio
CD's with no problems, but no ISO9660 format disks.
(I get an ugly system panic when I try. Crash, reboot, dogs and cats
living together... mass hysteria).
Is there anything special I need to be doing ?
Is there special a special ISO driver I need ?
Help!
Lost in Audio.
--
====================================================================
Steve Penton <spenton@irie.colorado.edu> 303-492-4053
University of Colorado @ Boulder NeXTmail Welcome !
Center For Astrophysics & Space Astronomy (CASA)
Campus Box 389 Boulder, Co 80309
====================================================================
From: lsf@jansky.astro.nwu.edu (Sam Finn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FORTRAN Compilers
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 2 Jan 1995 04:43:07 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Sender: lsf@holmes.astro.nwu.edu
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3e808r$4rp@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Summary: IEEE arithmetic
I'm looking for a high quality FORTRAN compiler for the NeXT (black,
if that matters) that follows that IEEE math standards. I have the
absoft compiler, which is ok as long as you are not doing anything too
serious (particulary with complex arithmetic, or with any application
where IEEE math is important). I need to bring LAPACK up on my cube
and am particularly interested in the double complex matrix routines
and this is just plain beyond the absoft compiler.
Thanks,
L. S. Finn
Assistant Professor
Physics and Astronomy
Northwestern University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN Compilers
In-Reply-To: lsf@jansky.astro.nwu.edu's message of 2 Jan 1995 04:43:07 GMT
Message-ID: <PFKEB.95Jan1212752@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <3e808r$4rp@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 05:27:52 GMT
>>>>> On 2 Jan 1995 04:43:07 GMT, lsf@jansky.astro.nwu.edu (Sam Finn) said:
> I'm looking for a high quality FORTRAN compiler for the NeXT (black,
> if that matters) that follows that IEEE math standards. I have the
> absoft compiler, which is ok as long as you are not doing anything
> too serious (particulary with complex arithmetic, or with any
> application where IEEE math is important). I need to bring LAPACK up
> on my cube and am particularly interested in the double complex
> matrix routines and this is just plain beyond the absoft compiler.
Have you tried f2c, the Fortran to C converter from AT&T? It
works better for some on my Fortran code than Absoft..
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: New version of the InstantTeX for NextStep Intel available ?
Date: 2 Jan 1995 02:41:10 -0800
Message-ID: <3e8l86$97b@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
Hi,
I am wondering if there is a new version of the InstantTex package available
for NextStep Intel. The old version that I have has expired. Does the package
make it to the commercial version ? Any info regarding the new version of
the package and how to obtain a copy is greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Pitak
PS: I am interested in obtaining the version that works with NextStep FIP 3.2.
To the author of InstantTeX package (Dmitri Linde): I am trying to contact you
at the address dmitri@starconn.com but the mail bounced with the reason that
the user is unknown. Please contact me ASAP regarding the above issue.
Thank you.
--
Pitak Chenkosol, Dept. Electrical Eng.,| " I was born not knowing and have
Portland State University, | only had a little time to change
P.O. Box 751, Portland, OR 97207-0751. | that here and there."
E-mail: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu | Richard P. Feynman
From: todd.nathan@mccaw.com (Todd Nathan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEEDED: InterfaceOpener MAB
Date: 2 Jan 1995 09:47:20 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3e8i38$f9r@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
If you know were the InterfaceOpener.app can be
had for MAB, please drop me a line. I seem to
have it on another system which isn't accessable
to me right now.
Regards,
Todd Nathan
<tnathan@mccaw.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Doug Moore
Subject: Source for AreaCode and ZipCode apps sought...
Message-ID: <D1s9AI.7uM@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:54:05 GMT
I have had no luck with the email addresses listed for Karl Kraft, nor have I
found source at any of the ftp sights. Anybody have FAT versions of these or
the source code?
--
Douglas Moore
St Paul, MN
612-227-3274
dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
dmoore@is.com <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Message-ID: <D1rywF.r9@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <3dep59$l8r@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 11:07:26 GMT
In article <3dep59$l8r@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy
BROCKBANK) writes:
>
> So far, it's looking like 3.3 has absolutely rotten video
>performance. As
We had the sa,e experience with 3.3PR2
We discovered that you can increase video performance ( i guess it s a
problem of PCI BUS performance by removing the "Intel824X0 PCI Host
Bridge" driver in Other.
Tell us if it helps and maybe someone at Next can tell us what this
driver does...
so long
Hans
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mix (from iLink) and fax problems
Date: 2 Jan 1995 16:56:24 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3e9b7o$lo1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3cv2fr$iud@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Heikki Ketola (hketola@agsm.ucla.edu) wrote:
: I am using mix from iLink for faxing. Lately I have noticed that
: quite a few of my faxes fail to be delivered due to "no answer".
: Faxing a printed paper copy manually from a traditional fax machine
: to the same number seems always to work.
: Has anybody else noticed this problem with mix, and if so, do you have
: a workaround? I am using mix 2.0.2 on a Moto NS 3.2
I have noticed the problem of not being able to send to certain fax machines
as well as receiving faxes from certain (but not always the same) fax
machines. As a workaround :-) I sold my mix and used a ZyXEL 1496 for faxing
and as an answering machine (with am.1.16). Works great, but there are still
some fax machines I can't connect to. Making Fax work seems to be difficult.
Cheers,
Axel
--
Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|//
Fehrbellinerstr. 39 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o(
D-10119 Berlin (Mitte) \ | /
Fon: +49 0172 39 00 348 (privat) 030 314 73 327 (uni) \~/
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where to get a phone answering app?
Date: 2 Jan 1995 17:04:53 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3e9bnl$lok@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1994Dec29.114419.9600@mjw.octagon.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Manfred W"uhr (mane@mjw.octagon.de) wrote:
: Hi all NeXTers!
: Somebody told me, there would be a public-domain/shareware program for the
: NeXT, that would emulate a phone answering machine.
: I have a ZyXEL U-1496E (so I have no use for mix-parts).
: Does this really exist - if yes: where to find it, what's the name of it?
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs/am.1.16.tar.gz
Have fun.
Axel
--
Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|//
Fehrbellinerstr. 39 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o(
D-10119 Berlin (Mitte) \ | /
Fon: +49 0172 39 00 348 (privat) 030 314 73 327 (uni) \~/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Re: Source for AreaCode and ZipCode apps sought...
Message-ID: <D1sF5L.4rF@ensuing.com>
Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation
References: <D1s9AI.7uM@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:58:32 GMT
In article <D1s9AI.7uM@news.cis.umn.edu> dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu writes:
>I have had no luck with the email addresses listed for Karl Kraft, nor have I
>found source at any of the ftp sights. Anybody have FAT versions of these or
>the source code?
>
>--
>Douglas Moore
>St Paul, MN
>612-227-3274
>dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
>dmoore@is.com <---NeXTMail ready
Try karl@ensuing.com. karl@bodi.portal.com is several years old
and no longer valid. A fat version of AreaCode should be available
on orst. You can get a tri-fat version of AreaCode on the Fatted
Calf CD.
ZipCode has never been made fat, It's on my list of things to do
(around #500 on the list or so.) The only reason it was not fat
in the first place, was that the database is bit packed to use the
least amount of disk space. I could just make two copies of the
database, but really wanted a more elegant solution. Both programs
have been superceded by a program called Coder, which offers a
greater range of translations, services and distributed objects.
I don't think it will be available anytime soon.
Source is not available for either project.
--
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
[My opinions are my own]
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: NewsGrazer crashes after internal drive replacement
Date: 2 Jan 1995 18:32:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3e9gso$4rc@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
After installing a new 1 gig internal drive, and restoring /LocalApps,
I have had a problem with NewsGrazer. It just crashes (quits) for no
apparent reason after about 5 minutes. Can anyone help me figure out
why? I have tried reinstalling various versions of NewsGrazer,
including the latest one, but no luck.
Thank you very much.
Ed
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MediaStation from Imagine still available?
Date: 2 Jan 1995 15:02:23 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3e9pkv$c25@cobber.cord.edu>
The last time I heard of MediaStation was in the NeXTWORLD Spring 92 issue.
Is it still available and being ported to the different NEXSTEP platforms?
I've been looking for a multimedia authoring system that can handle
sound and images and most importantly, video.
Quicktime (NEXTIME) support is highly desired as well as a scripting
language.
I've read about HyperSense from Otherwise but I wanted to know of other
alternatives before I make a decision.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
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doroin@cobber.cord.edu | Plan 9 on a NeXTstation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance) -- not here
Message-ID: <1995Jan2.194832.15499@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <3duf0l$ae@marsu.pilhuhn.de>
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 19:48:32 GMT
In article <3duf0l$ae@marsu.pilhuhn.de> mow@marsu.pilhuhn.de (Markus Wenzel)
writes:
> This indicates that the slowdown only occurs with PCI cards,
> if local bus cards are not affected.
Forwarding a post from comp.sys.next.hardware...
Thanks to Steve Borrelli for this info.
Path:
radical1!plinko!mtigate!news.claremont.edu!nntp-server.caltech.edu!netline-fd
di.jpl.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!swiss.ans.net!solaris.cc.vt
edu!spcuna!ritz!borrelli
From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steve Borrelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP 3.3 video driver bug?
Message-ID: <D1nsH6.Hv6@ritz.mordor.com>
Date: 31 Dec 94 04:58:18 GMT
References: <1994Dec29.004350.10508@Radical.Com>
<1994Dec30.183401.3280@radical.com>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Lines: 31
In article <1994Dec30.183401.3280@radical.com>,
Mark Tarbell <Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com> wrote:
>In article <3dvcl9$68s@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam
>Deishu Beeman) wrote:
>
>>One more note: despite this little problem (with a workaround) in getting
>>the newer Diamond Stealth 64 PCI cards to work with NEXTSTEP, this
>>card/driver is still considered a really good deal by one of the people who
>>*tests* NEXTSTEP video drivers. :)
>
>Adam,
>
>Thanks for your help! However, one `note' to your note: We have been getting
>POOR video performance from the Diamond Stealth (albeit at 1024x768@75/16).
>
>Here are some NWBenchmark specs. Note the display postscript performance
>ranges from 2 to 3 times slower than for comparable black hardware:
>
>I wonder how well the Diamond Stealth really works with the PCI bus?
>
>Thanks again!
>
>--
>Mark Tarbell ( Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com )
I had slow video with a Diamond Stealth and 3.3, but it was fixed when
a NeXT employee told me to remove the PCI host bridge adaptor(??) driver in
Configure app. It's slightly faster than in 3.2 now!
-Steve
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail shortcomings?
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 22:09:01 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Sender: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Message-ID: <950102220901.790AACUQ.malc@white>
References: <3dv4v6$igd@news.cais.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> The folks at NeXT were great in helping me do .sig files using
>terminal services but we're all stumped on how to do quoted replies.
Here's part of a message I sent to colleagues here a while back:
In Terminal, click on the Info->Terminal Services menu entry.
This brings up a new panel into which you can put things Terminal can do on
behalf of other applications (you can see some already, e.g. Count Words)
It should be obvious how to add new Services: ones I've implemented which may
be useful are:
Mail: quote fmt 65 78 | sed "s/^/> /"
Mail: double quote fmt 65 75 | sed "s/^/> > /"
Mail: Remove quotes sed -e "s/^> > //g" -e "s/^> >//g" -e
"s/^>>//g" -e "s/^> //g" -e "s/^>//g"
I've also changed Wrap to
Mail: Wrap to 70 Columns fmt 74 77
The following options should apply to all...
Accept
Plain text
Use selection
As Input
Execution
Run Service in the Background
Return Output
Fast C-shell
I find the combination of remove quotes and double quote useful for
"requoting" text which might be > 80 columns if I quote it again.
> It'd be great to be able to use Mail rather than having to shell
> $'s for Eloquent (although maybe we should to support the cause?)
>
Well, I use the above even though I have Eloquent... IMHO using Terminal
Services is quite sensible for doing this quoting stuff, it leverages off a
much more powerful, flexible and customisable tool...
There are many other good reasons to buy Eloquent though -- a GUI-based
threaded newsreader, for example... no I won't include a picture this time!
:-)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: todd.nathan@mccaw.com (Todd Nathan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MediaStation from Imagine still available?
Date: 2 Jan 1995 21:28:54 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3e9r6m$lui@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <3e9pkv$c25@cobber.cord.edu>
In article <3e9pkv$c25@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon
Doroin) writes:
>
[ ... blah blah blah ... ]
>
> I've read about HyperSense from Otherwise but I wanted to know of other
It is from Thoughtful Software in Fort Collins Colorado. Phone
number is +1.206.221.4596.
[ ... blah blah blah ... ]
Todd
From: todd.nathan@mccaw.com (Todd Nathan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fm2rtf: does such a beast exist
Date: 2 Jan 1995 22:04:35 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3e9t9j$m8j@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Dear Netlanders,
Does a FrameMaker to RTF(D) converter exist in this harsh
world of ours? If so, please email me with its location.
I have a need to convert some FrameMaker documents to RTF(D).
If you have the file specs for FrameMaker 3.2 documents
(and they are public knowledge) please send them to me.
If you know if Frame can supply such info to me so I can
write such a converter, then please let me know who to
talk to...
Best wishes,
Todd
From: david@drq.lbl.gov (David Quarrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Panics following Upgrade to NS 3.3 (Black H'ware)
Date: 2 Jan 1995 22:52:39 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <42992@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
I've been having problems with my '040 Cube following an upgrade to NS
3.3. Basically it crashes with the following panic error message at the
slightest provocation:
Panic: (cpu0) MMU invalid description during table walk
NeXT ROM Monitor 2.1 v59
I can reliably make this panic occur by hitting the Delete key when the
Login Panel is being displayed, or it will happen randomly within 1-2
minutes if I sucessfully log in.
As a temporary kludge I've replaced the /sdmach file by that from my NS
3.2 CD-ROM and things are working ok for now, but obviously that is not a
real solution.
I have a couple of SCSI disks, a PLI 2.88MB floppy & a NeXT CD-Rom drive
on the machine. I've tried disconnecting the Floppy but that doesn't do
anything. I've also turned off NXFax & DialUpIP with no effect either.
Any suggestions? Does anyone know whether the error message & traceback
that precedes the Panic message are logged anywhere?
Thanks in advance for any help.
David
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(NeXTmail ok) 1 Cyclotron Road
Internet: DRQuarrie@LBL.gov Berkeley, CA 94720
From: gj@irock.com ("G. J.")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance) -- not here
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 1995 15:36:27 -0800
Organization: iRock.Communications
Message-ID: <gj-0201951536270001@gj.irock.com>
References: <3duf0l$ae@marsu.pilhuhn.de> <1995Jan2.194832.15499@Radical.Com>
In article <1995Jan2.194832.15499@Radical.Com>, Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com wrote:
> I had slow video with a Diamond Stealth and 3.3, but it was fixed when
> a NeXT employee told me to remove the PCI host bridge adaptor(??) driver in
> Configure app. It's slightly faster than in 3.2 now!
Okay, so I'm ready to remove my PCI host bridge...
Will my system still function if I do?
What's the PCI host bridge do and why can I remove it?
Call me Chicken, but I don't like NeXT surprises...
--
"G. J." at iRock.Communications[TM]
mailto:gj@irock.com <http://www.irock.com>
The small 'i' is for interactive,
and the WWW stands for Wacky, Wacky, Wacky!
From: borrel@ludvigsen.hiof.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica won't work!
Date: 3 Jan 1995 00:06:42 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ea4ei$ocs@ratatosk.uninett.no>
Installed Mathematica 2.0 on Cube running NS 3.3 (3.2 as well for that
matter). Everything runs along just fine until I try to evaluate an
expression. 1+1 won't even work - but it works fine in a shell running
math. It used to work under 3.0 (or was it 3.1?).
- Barre
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From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mgetty+sendfax? (vgetty?)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 03 Jan 1995 00:09:26 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Jan3000926@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Did somebody say that they'd got this working?
Did they get vgetty working?
--
"Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games."
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb!
Date: 3 Jan 1995 00:30:34 GMT
Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net)
Message-ID: <3ea5ra$79l@core.symnet.net>
My copy of OmniWeb refuses to load because it says it's
and old copy and I should get a new one.
I'm running 3.0 on a NeXTstep, I can't run MAB executables,
And the recent version of OmniWeb is MAB = I can't run it.
Cutting the MAB to NeXT HW binary is also a problem -
Metrosuction is MAB too. And doesn't work anyways.
Is there anything I can do?
I can't afford 3.2 or 3.3 right now.
Thanks for any help,
--
Steve Dekorte
dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome)
http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fm2rtf: does such a beast exist
Date: 3 Jan 1995 00:58:41 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3ea7g1$1gi@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <3e9t9j$m8j@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Todd Nathan (todd.nathan@mccaw.com) wrote:
: Dear Netlanders,
: Does a FrameMaker to RTF(D) converter exist in this harsh
: world of ours? If so, please email me with its location.
: I have a need to convert some FrameMaker documents to RTF(D).
: If you have the file specs for FrameMaker 3.2 documents
: (and they are public knowledge) please send them to me.
: If you know if Frame can supply such info to me so I can
: write such a converter, then please let me know who to
: talk to...
There is such a program: m2rtf. I only have the executable, so use
archie to find the source. It worked OK for me, though as I recall,
the conversion of styles wasn't ideal.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: dleip@uoguelph.ca (David C Leip)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WWW Server for Black NeXT?
Date: 3 Jan 1995 01:33:44 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <3ea9ho$6gi@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Is there such a thing as WWW server s/w for the Black NeXT?
______________________________________________________________
David Leip IBM Canada (3G/946/1150/TOR)
University of Guelph Software Development Lab
HCI Design Lab 1150 Eglinton Ave. East
Guelph, Ontario, Canada Toronto, Ont. Canada M3C 1H7
work: (416) 448-3027 <Leip@vnet.ibm.com>
home: (519) 766-1834 <David@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca>
ACM SIGCHI: <David_Leip.CHI@Xerox.com>
______________________________________________________________
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can't receive mail, but 'me' can
Date: 3 Jan 1995 03:30:30 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3eagcm$d6f@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I just bought a NeXTStation with 3.2. I was playing with NeXTMail,
and tried sending mail to myself and to 'me'. The 'me' account
receives mail --- no problem. But the new account 'finton' never
registers any mail sent to it--- either from itself or the 'me'
account. I didn't do anything special to create the account 'finton',
but just took the defaults (the 'short version') in UserManager.app.
Can anyone suggest possible configuration errors which would cause
this?
Thanks,
--David Finton
finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth Dyke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Date: 3 Jan 1995 03:34:39 GMT
Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eagkf$kc5@news1.best.com>
References: <schwettD1su4v.D0J@netcom.com>
Keywords: 3.3, Video, possible explanation?
In article <schwettD1su4v.D0J@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com writes:
> >One would think that 32-bit deep color windows would be the easiest to
> >drag around as (I hope) they're stored in RAM in the same format that the
> >graphics cards all use.
>
> Actually, I have come to believe that the problem is with translating from
> one color depth to another. If you open a 32 bit window, like a WetPaint
> document, it drags very smoothly. Open a 16 bit windows in 32 bit, and it
> lags very sadly.
I think you might have nailed it. I just tried dragging around a 32-bit
jpeg file in a window approximately the same size as my Mail folder and it's
significantly faster. Dragging the Mail folder window really dogs. It
looks like the translation that really got broken was the 12-bit to 24-bit
because shell windows and such still drag quickly. I suppose I could try to
see how well 8-bit grayscale windows drag around. [I just tried it and
eight-bit still flies right along].
> The workspace uses 12/16 bit icons, doesn't it?
>
> In any case, you can help things a bit by using a color depth preferences
> dealie and setting stuff to 8 bit, if you don't always need color. It helps,
> but I'm still going to trash NeXTStep unless NeXT fixes this.... and soon!
Well, I like NEXTSTEP too much to trash it over this little annoyance, but
I do think a bug report is in order.
> Everybody who has this problem, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BUG NEXT. They need to
> know that it's not just a fluke.
Agreed.
-Ken
(Otherwise an extremely happy camper with 3.3.)
--
Kenneth C. Dyke | GCS/E d-(---) H s !g !p au a- w+ v(-) C++(++++) P- L-
kcd@jumpgate.com | 3- UIX++++$ E--- K- N++ W--- M--(-) !V -po+ f Y+ 5++
NeXTMail and MIME Ok | j- G' tv b+ D+ B- e+ h+ u**(---) n----(---) y++(*>**)
IRC: Nyx | PGP Public key available via finger | "Just one fix." -Ministry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Message-ID: <D1tBLx.Ius@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3dep59$l8r@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:39:32 GMT
Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: So far, it's looking like 3.3 has absolutely rotten video performance. As
: I've said before, we have a copy of 3.3 installed on a machine with a #9 GXE
: 64 Pro (formerly one of the fastest cards under NEXTSTEP), and this puppy
: bites.
My Intel GX/Pro rates virtually identical in performance under 3.3. The
8-bit mode that was added to the driver DOUBLES my window drag speed,
over 16-bit. I get an NXBench Window time of 0.6, which is more than
comfortable.
The 8-bit colour is utterly fabulous. "I can't believe its not 16-bit". I
may just leave it at 8-bit, just to go to 1280x1024, and enjoy the
wonderful window pushing. 24-bit photos look gorgeous. The dithering
is noticeable if you look very close, but it is amazingly good nonetheless.
This is not the crummy 256-colour Windows-style 8-bit I was expecting.
8-bit would be no good for graphics professionals, but for me (esp. at
home with a SLOW OEM el-cheapo ATI/VLB card in my clone) it is fine.
Doom is very slow, though. Can't wait for the REAL one...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
From: lfil@peoria.az.stratus.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fm2rtf: does such a beast exist
Date: 3 Jan 1995 05:42:10 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <3eao3i$hfd@transfer.stratus.com>
Ross Cutler wrote:
> There is such a program: m2rtf. I only have the executable, so use
> archie to find the source. It worked OK for me, though as I recall,
> the conversion of styles wasn't ideal.
> --
> Ross Cutler
> University of Maryland, College Park
> Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Please post where you can find it..
(I can't do archie through our firewall.)
Thanks,
Lonnie
--
#import <stdDisclaimer.h> /* ===============[ NeXT Mail Welcome! ]== */
Lonnie L. Filbrun Lonnie_Filbrun@vos.stratus.com (VOS)
Associate Software Systems Engineer lfil@az.stratus.com (NeXT)
Stratus Computer, Inc. (800) 828-8513 (TEL)
Telecommunications Division CAC (602) 852-3093 (FAX)
4455 East Camelback Road #115-A Phoenix Arizona, 85018
From: adstruijk@news.ramp.com (Adrian Struijk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SAP
Date: 2 Jan 1995 22:09:16 -0700
Organization: OnRamp Incorporated.
Message-ID: <3eam5s$1gm@taz.ramp.com>
Can anyone tell me what SAP is and stands for? I suspect it is a systems
development workbench and stands for Systems, Analysis and Planning.
Where can I find/read more on SAP?
Thanks,
Adrian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
Subject: Re: WWW Server for Black NeXT?
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <D1tFuB.FxC@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 06:10:59 GMT
References: <3ea9ho$6gi@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it.
In article <3ea9ho$6gi@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>,
David C Leip <dleip@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>Is there such a thing as WWW server s/w for the Black NeXT?
Yes. Both the CERN and NCSA versions of httpd (the "WWW server") make for
next.
see "http://www11.w3.org/hypertext/WWW/Daemon/Overview.html" for more
details.
--
Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\
North Dakota State U. Ass'n for Computing Machinery Chairperson <acm>
http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key \v/
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Date: 3 Jan 1995 13:42:21 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3ebk7t$r32@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3ea5ra$79l@core.symnet.net>
In article <3ea5ra$79l@core.symnet.net> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
writes:
>
> My copy of OmniWeb refuses to load because it says it's
> and old copy and I should get a new one.
>
Ho, ho! I had the same problem. You have to get the new version from any of the
ftp sites. Or better idea - get the SpiderWoman! It's gerat!
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SAP
Date: 3 Jan 1995 13:56:55 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3ebl37$re9@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3eam5s$1gm@taz.ramp.com>
In article <3eam5s$1gm@taz.ramp.com> adstruijk@news.ramp.com (Adrian Struijk)
writes:
> Can anyone tell me what SAP is and stands for? I suspect it is a systems
> development workbench and stands for Systems, Analysis and Planning.
> Where can I find/read more on SAP?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adrian
>
SAP is the biggest german software house (the german version of MacroSh..t --
or was it MicroSoft ;-)) Their product is called R3 (they claim, it's better
then Star Wars R2, but don't believe it! It's the most ugly peace of source on
our planet! The funny think is, I was told from a guy working in SAP R&D, that
NeXT Inc. will buy the R3. Please don't ask me why! My explanation is, that
S.P.J. has eaten bad food.
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: Gerd Gueldenpfennig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SAP
Date: 3 Jan 1995 12:48:48 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <3ebh3g$1ei@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <3eam5s$1gm@taz.ramp.com>
Adrian Struijk writes
> Can anyone tell me what SAP is and stands for? I suspect it is a systems
> development workbench and stands for Systems, Analysis and Planning.
> Where can I find/read more on SAP?
>
SAP is a company in Germany, which makes the worldwide most succesfull
enterprise wide standard software called R/3.
SAP stands for Systeme, Anwendungen und Programme (as I remember).
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig +
+ iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH +
+ Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany +
+ Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 +
+ Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: what's with OmniWeb ??
Date: 3 Jan 1995 14:00:14 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3ebl9e$rio@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com>
In article <3e1klm$q2a@News1.mcs.com> tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer) writes:
> What's worse is "ftp.omnigroup.com" doesn't exist and "omnigroup.com" is
> unreachable.
They are still alive, but to get a ftp access is a real russian roulette. Try
the ftp site in muenchen...
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: imdat@irex.de (Imdat Solak)
Subject: Re: SAP
Message-ID: <1995Jan3.131149.1572@irex.de>
Sender: imdat@irex.de
Organization: IREX Software AG, Hochreit 7, D-83329 Waging, Germany
References: <3eam5s$1gm@taz.ramp.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:11:49 MET
In article <3eam5s$1gm@taz.ramp.com> adstruijk@news.ramp.com (Adrian Struijk)
writes:
> Can anyone tell me what SAP is and stands for? I suspect it is a systems
> development workbench and stands for Systems, Analysis and Planning.
> Where can I find/read more on SAP?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adrian
>
Hmm,
well _I_ know SAP as a Systems Software Development Company being one of
the biggest Software Companies in Germany ;-) residing somewhere near
Heidelberg...
Maybe you think of something else?
Imdat
--
Imdat Solak * IREX Software AG * Hochreit 7 * D-83329 Waging * Germany
phone: +49 8681 694-0 * fax: +49 8681 694-200 * mail: imdat@irex.de
#import <sys/company/disclaimer.h>
From: borchers@nsf.gov (Robert R. Borchers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help! DoveFax package
Date: 3 Jan 1995 14:56:40 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, NCD
Message-ID: <3eboj8$t6f@lll-winken.llnl.gov>
I accidentally lost the drivers for my Dove Fax modem and then discovered
that the distribution floppy was bad. Could someone please e-mail me a
copy of the installation package? The version I have is 1.003b. I am sure
there must be a later version. I am running black hardware. Thanks, Bob
--
Robert R. Borchers
Division of Advanced Scientific Computing
National Science Foundation
borchers@nsf.gov (NeXTMail, Welcome)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 11:30:06 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wj2LiCC00iV302FNYN@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3ea5ra$79l@core.symnet.net>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Jan-95 OmniWeb! by Steve
Dekorte@symnet.net
> My copy of OmniWeb refuses to load because it says it's
> and old copy and I should get a new one.
>
> I'm running 3.0 on a NeXTstep, I can't run MAB executables,
> And the recent version of OmniWeb is MAB = I can't run it.
[ ... ]
> Is there anything I can do?
Yes. Before starting OmniWeb, go to Preferences, set the date back (a
year is the easiest thing to do). Then start up OmniWeb and return the
date to normal-- it seems OmniWeb only checks the time when it first
starts up.
Omni: Thanks for OmniWeb, and thanks for making it freely available,
but it's not particularly cool to time-bomb your software without
letting people know about it. IMHO, doing so is akin to software which
sends email without getting the user's permission, first.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Message-ID: <D1u9L9.10J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Keywords: 3.3, Video, possible explanation?
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <schwettD1su4v.D0J@netcom.com> <3eagkf$kc5@news1.best.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 16:53:32 GMT
While you are "bugging NeXT" about a fix for video performance, how about
a fix for EDIT Print -- a single page file always prints an enpty second
page. It has been this way for far too long IMHO.
--Tim
--
Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services
tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
|Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Date: 3 Jan 1995 17:02:44 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3ebvvk$d51@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <D1u9L9.10J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
In article <D1u9L9.10J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim
Pugh) writes:
> While you are "bugging NeXT" about a fix for video performance, how about
> a fix for EDIT Print -- a single page file always prints an enpty second
> page. It has been this way for far too long IMHO.
> --Tim
> --
Not for me it doesn't seems to work fine. I only see this when I'm in the US,
using Letter sized paper, and I have my prefs set to A4 - ie, what size do you
have your paper setup to be?
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica won't work!
Date: 3 Jan 1995 17:14:26 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ec0li$ngb@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3ea4ei$ocs@ratatosk.uninett.no>
Borre Ludvigsen (borrel@ludvigsen.hiof.no) wrote:
: Installed Mathematica 2.0 on Cube running NS 3.3 (3.2 as well for that
: matter). Everything runs along just fine until I try to evaluate an
: expression. 1+1 won't even work - but it works fine in a shell running
: math. It used to work under 3.0 (or was it 3.1?).
I believe that version of Mathematica is two Releases behind the most current,
it is probably time for you to upgrade to the most current release, 4.0.x.
Dave
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica won't work!
Date: 3 Jan 1995 18:14:54 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ec46u$sba@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3ea4ei$ocs@ratatosk.uninett.no> <3ec0li$ngb@redstone.interpath.net>
Dave Briggman (paradigm@mercury.interpath.net) wrote:
: Borre Ludvigsen (borrel@ludvigsen.hiof.no) wrote:
: : Installed Mathematica 2.0 on Cube running NS 3.3 (3.2 as well for that
: : matter). Everything runs along just fine until I try to evaluate an
: : expression. 1+1 won't even work - but it works fine in a shell running
: : math. It used to work under 3.0 (or was it 3.1?).
: I believe that version of Mathematica is two Releases behind the most current,
: it is probably time for you to upgrade to the most current release, 4.0.x.
The current version of Mathematica is 2.2 and 2.3 is still in the works...
(4.0.x ???). I'm using Mathematica 2.2 under NS 3.2, but maybe 3.3 breaks
something... ???
Have you tried reinstalling Mathematica?
--
| Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate |
| rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Date: 3 Jan 1995 18:50:11 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <3ec693$n5l@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <wj2LiCC00iV302FNYN@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <wj2LiCC00iV302FNYN@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote:
>Omni: Thanks for OmniWeb, and thanks for making it freely available,
The left hand says ...
>but it's not particularly cool to time-bomb your software without
>letting people know about it. IMHO, doing so is akin to software which
>sends email without getting the user's permission, first.
and the right hand says ...
Isn't it possible to cut at least *some* slack for the
possibility of an honest mistake? The old version, as
I understood the developers to say, was supposed to die
(and they gave a good reason for the desire to have it
die) well after the introduction of a new version. But
they made an arithmetical mistake. In an effort to be
of service to their users, they posted a notice to the
net about all this and had already put up a version so
people would not be inconvenienced unduly. I did hear
that some people had trouble getting it, though I did
not, but you can hardly blame the developer for that.
--
Copyright 1994 Jess Anderson. All rights reserved. Copying in
whole or in part prohibited except for direct response on Usenet.
--
<> The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of
<> them to choose from.
<> -- Andy Tanenbaum
--
Opinions expressed herein have no connection with the UW-Madison.
Jess Anderson anderson@doit.wisc.edu
From: ACI_INC@news.delphi.com (ACI_INC@DELPHI.COM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Date: 3 Jan 1995 13:44:49 -0500
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Message-ID: <3ec5v1$dnu@news2.delphi.com>
References: <schwettD1su4v.D0J@netcom.com> <3eagkf$kc5@news1.best.com> <D1u9L9.10J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Keywords: 3.3, Video, possible explanation?
tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes:
>While you are "bugging NeXT" about a fix for video performance, how about
>a fix for EDIT Print -- a single page file always prints an enpty second
>page. It has been this way for far too long IMHO.
> --Tim
>--
That is news to us! Never seen this problem in the last 4 years. Check
your printer!!!
Karlheinz
>Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services
>tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
> |Laurel, MD 20708-1355
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Message-ID: <schwettD1uF7x.Bnu@netcom.com>
Keywords: 3.3, Video, possible explanation?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <schwettD1su4v.D0J@netcom.com> <3eagkf$kc5@news1.best.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:55:08 GMT
kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth Dyke) writes:
>looks like the translation that really got broken was the 12-bit to 24-bit
>because shell windows and such still drag quickly. I suppose I could try to
>see how well 8-bit grayscale windows drag around. [I just tried it and
>eight-bit still flies right along].
>Well, I like NEXTSTEP too much to trash it over this little annoyance, but
>I do think a bug report is in order.
I really LOVED 3.2, but, I don't *need* NeXTStep, really, and the video
performance in 3.3 on my system makes it altogether unpleasant to work with...
>> Everybody who has this problem, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BUG NEXT. They need to
>> know that it's not just a fluke.
>Agreed.
Well... I hear from NEXT that they ARE aware of the problem, that they
DO know that it's not a fluke, and that they are working on it...
This is enough for me, for now, so I'm not going to fdisk that drive
just yet.
Happy New Year, all!
Mark Schwettmann
--
schwett@netcom.com --- mschwett@ced.berkeley.edu
"
a smile cartooned tooth for tooth, you said irony was the shackles of youth
"
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: afs on 3.3, or buy Moto 3.2?
Date: 3 Jan 1995 19:44:34 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3ec9f2$j35@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Hi all,
Does anyone have a copy of 3.2 for Motorola they would like to sell? I'm
particularly interested in the academic release. I would upgrade to 3.3,
but all indications are that the Transarc afs binaries no longer work with
3.3 (can anyone confirm this? I'd love to hear that afs works with the
final release version of 3.3).
Thanks,
-jamey.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Message-ID: <1995Jan3.181936.18322@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <D1rywF.r9@onevision.de>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:19:36 GMT
In article <D1rywF.r9@onevision.de> hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) writes:
> We discovered that you can increase video performance ( i guess it s a
> problem of PCI BUS performance by removing the "Intel824X0 PCI Host
> Bridge" driver in Other.
I just removed the PCI host bridge adaptor driver in
Configure.app. Interesting performance trade-off:
With PCI Driver Without PCI
--------------- -----------
V/V: 20.574 sec 32.096 sec
D/V: 36.608 sec 7.128 sec
So, while it sped up card-to-external graphics,
it slowed down internal card graphics somehow!
An amicable trade, I guess. Just not sure what
is going on here!!
Mark
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW Server for Black NeXT?
Date: 3 Jan 1995 19:58:57 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ecaa1$69e@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
References: <3ea9ho$6gi@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
In article <3ea9ho$6gi@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> dleip@uoguelph.ca (David
C Leip) writes:
> Is there such a thing as WWW server s/w for the Black NeXT?
>
> ______________________________________________________________
I use plexus and it seems to work fine!
>
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From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica won't work!
Date: 3 Jan 1995 21:33:55 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ecfs3$du4@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3ea4ei$ocs@ratatosk.uninett.no> <3ec0li$ngb@redstone.interpath.net> <3ec46u$sba@crcnis3.unl.edu>
Rex Dieter (rdieter@math.unl.edu) wrote:
: The current version of Mathematica is 2.2 and 2.3 is still in the works...
: (4.0.x ???). I'm using Mathematica 2.2 under NS 3.2, but maybe 3.3 breaks
: something... ???
Gaffed by Rex. Rex is correct...having 2.0.x now puts a party (TWO) incremental
releases back.
How is the weather in Nebraska today? You have a great college campus.
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: me@iwo.cube.net (Marquardt)
Subject: Re: Mathematica won't work!
Message-ID: <D1usn1.HK@iwo.cube.net>
Organization: IWO
References: <3ea4ei$ocs@ratatosk.uninett.no> <3ec0li$ngb@redstone.interpath.net> <3ec46u$sba@crcnis3.unl.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:45:00 GMT
Rex Dieter (rdieter@math.unl.edu) wrote:
: The current version of Mathematica is 2.2 and 2.3 is still in the works...
: (4.0.x ???). I'm using Mathematica 2.2 under NS 3.2, but maybe 3.3 breaks
: something... ???
Mathematica 2.2 seems to work well under NS 3.3.
I've tried 1+1 :-) and some Plots and they worked.
So long
Christoph
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From: longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Fighting Microsoft to Win (Should NeXT Buy Lighthouse?)
Date: 3 Jan 1995 23:53:52 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eco2g$go5@slowhand.nmb.com>
References: <9412211503.AA02684@newyork> <3da2tj$7a1@saba.info.ucla.edu> <SYLVAN.94Dec23004909@world.std.com>
In article <SYLVAN.94Dec23004909@world.std.com>, sylvan@world.std.com (sylvan james) writes:
|> In article <3dbb6e$8i4@saba.info.ucla.edu> barry@redwood.math.ucla.edu
|> (Barry Merriman) writes:
|> In article <SYLVAN.94Dec21231225@world.std.com> sylvan@world.std.com
|> (sylvan james) writes:
|>
|> >MS has no plans to put 95's UI onto NT until Cairo.
|>
|> Not true. It has recently been reported in the rags that
|> they will add the GUI to NT 3 months after they release
|> Win95, as a free add on---precisely to take the time
|> pressure of Cairo. They aren't stupid!
The (disputed) claim that "the GUI" [for Win95]
will be added to NT as a free upgrade, "soon" after
the release of Win95 [which is not to say "soon" at all...]
is not sufficient evidence that "They aren't stupid!"
From: teletalk.teletalk.se!dg (Dag Gruneau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3.3 with Mux 1.5
Date: 3 Jan 1995 08:04:59 GMT
Organization: TeleTalk AB, Stockholm, Sweden
Message-ID: <3eb0fb$p9@teletalk.teletalk.se>
I have used the excelklent serial driover Mux 1.5 for a long time
with 3.2 getting news and mail over uucp. Suddenly it has stopped
working or (something has) when I installed 3.3
Has anybody else experienced this? and maybe someone has a solution.
/Dag
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From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netinfo propagation delays
Date: 3 Jan 1995 23:51:20 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3ecnto$ss0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I can see that netinfo won't reflect instantly the changes on the master
server, but recently I made changes in bootparams. Twenty minutes later
the client was still getting the old private directory.
That is:
niutil -read -t fenris/network /machines/pluto.space.ualberta.ca
...
bootparams: root=fenris:/ private=fenris:/u/fenris/clients@/private
niutil -read -t lucifer/network /machines/pluto.space.ualberta.ca
...
bootparams: root=fenris:/ private=fenris:/.MailDisk/clients@/private
Netinfo is kind of neat in concept, but it needs a better mechanism for
servers to notify their clones that their information is out of date. I
eventually gave up waiting, and rebooted the clone server.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Date: 4 Jan 1995 02:02:43 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ecvk3$8kj@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3ec693$n5l@news.doit.wisc.edu>
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote:
>
> > Omni: Thanks for OmniWeb, and thanks for making it freely
> > available,
>
> The left hand says ...
>
> > but it's not particularly cool to time-bomb your software without
> > letting people know about it. IMHO, doing so is akin to software
> > which sends email without getting the user's permission, first.
>
> and the right hand says ...
>
> Isn't it possible to cut at least *some* slack for the
> possibility of an honest mistake?
Well, even ignoring the quite understandable honest mistake, the
way this timed-check goes off is not particularly friendly. It'd
be a very good and understandable idea to annoy the user with a
dialog saying:
Do you really want to run this? There's
probably a new version available by now...
but still let the *user* decide whether or not they want to use
that old version. Maybe have the annoying dialog come up for a
week or two before the *application* decides to cut them off
completely.
Even if they had the date right, the way the check works was less
than ideal. What if you (the user) don't happen to run OmniWeb
until some time when ftp.omnigroup.com is down? What if you are
just quickly checking some info on the WWW, only to have this check
blow up in your face, such that you *can't* do a quick check without
running off to get some new version? What if your normal method
for *getting* new versions of OmniWeb is to *use* OmniWeb?
The web is getting to be more and more useful, and to be instantly
cut off from it without any warning can be very very inconvenient.
I don't begrudge the check, but the implementation of it could
have been much more user-friendly. The date that the check
goes off is irrelevent to the implementation of the check.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netinfo propagation delays
Date: 4 Jan 1995 08:45:52 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3edn80$j4s@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <3ecnto$ss0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <3ecnto$ss0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
> I can see that netinfo won't reflect instantly the changes on the master
> server, but recently I made changes in bootparams. Twenty minutes later
> the client was still getting the old private directory.
>
I've only seen real delays on very large, or very old NS networks. 3.3 appears
to be very quick. I administer a couple of hundred-something 3.2 networks and
its a lot faster than it used to be. 20 minutes is rare/unheard of, even in the
old days. How many machines do you have?
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <doug@thoughtful.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:36:10 -0700
From: doug@thoughtful.com (Douglas Simons)
Message-ID: <9501040636.AA01902@thoughtful.com>
Subject: Re: MediaStation from Imagine still available?
Cc: info@thoughtful.com
doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) wrote:
> The last time I heard of MediaStation was in the NeXTWORLD Spring 92 issue.
> Is it still available and being ported to the different NEXSTEP platforms?
>
> I've been looking for a multimedia authoring system that can handle
> sound and images and most importantly, video.
> Quicktime (NEXTIME) support is highly desired as well as a scripting
> language.
>
> I've read about HyperSense from Otherwise but I wanted to know of other
> alternatives before I make a decision.
Actually, HyperSense is from Thoughtful Software (Otherwise makes the
ScreenCast and WatchMe programs, and possibly other good software).
We are currently offering free trial licenses to anyone who'd like to
experience HyperSense's ease and power for themselves, and a special price as
well... but hurry! During this promotion the price is increasing by $1 each
day. Write to info@thoughtful.com for more information.
Note: Our area code was listed incorrectly by another poster. If you want to
call, the correct number is: (303) 221-4596 or fax: (303) 221-0841.
Doug Simons
Thoughtful Software
doug@thoughtful.com
From: "Charles W. Cooper II" <charles@oneworld.wa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HyperSense
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 01:19:50 -0800
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950104011820.19821D-100000@oneworld.wa.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Has anyone worked with this package? I downloaded the demo and it looks
very slick.
Would like to see comments on performance, useability etc.
Thanks!
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Date: 4 Jan 1995 11:18:05 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <3ee05d$mus@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <3ec693$n5l@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3ecvk3$8kj@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <3ecvk3$8kj@usenet.rpi.edu>,
Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
>Even if they had the date right, the way the check works was less
>than ideal. What if you (the user) don't happen to run OmniWeb
>until some time when ftp.omnigroup.com is down? What if you are
>just quickly checking some info on the WWW, only to have this check
>blow up in your face, such that you *can't* do a quick check without
>running off to get some new version? What if your normal method
>for *getting* new versions of OmniWeb is to *use* OmniWeb?
What if (god forbid) one had to do without, just for a little
while? There was a life before the web and there will be one
after.
>The web is getting to be more and more useful, and to be instantly
>cut off from it without any warning can be very very inconvenient.
Drug addiction is presumably a bad thing.
>I don't begrudge the check, but the implementation of it could
>have been much more user-friendly. The date that the check
>goes off is irrelevent to the implementation of the check.
I suppose it was quick and dirty (meaning, easy) and one didn't
*expect* to make a mistake.
I mean, there are important things and this isn't one of them.
--
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whole or in part prohibited except for direct response on Usenet.
--
<> The most useful piece of leaarning for the uses of life
<> is to unlearn what is untrue.
<> -- Antisthenes
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Opinions expressed herein have no connection with the UW-Madison.
Jess Anderson anderson@doit.wisc.edu
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Floppy Format
Date: 4 Jan 1995 15:37:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3eefc2$ncr@mark.ucdavis.edu>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.sysadmin ]
[ Author was Pat Martin ]
[ Posted on 4 Jan 1995 15:34:53 GMT ]
I am running NS 3.2 and when I initialize a ED (4MB) it formats
down to 2.5 MB instead of 2.88MB that it use to when running 2.1.
IS this noremal for NS 3.2 or is something wrong?
thanks
pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
From: todd.nathan@mccaw.com (Todd Nathan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HyperSense
Date: 4 Jan 1995 14:29:35 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3eebcf$pu7@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950104011820.19821D-100000@oneworld.wa.com>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950104011820.19821D-100000@oneworld.wa.com>
"Charles W. Cooper II" <charles@oneworld.wa.com> writes:
>
> Has anyone worked with this package? I downloaded the demo and it looks
> very slick.
Yes, for the past 4 years! It is very slick, and powerful
too...
>
> Would like to see comments on performance, usability etc.
Its performance is quite good. There has been rather
extensive efforts to minimize the time it takes scripts
to run. In fact, 1.5 years ago the compiler/interpreter
was optimized to get an order of magnitude faster.
I find the product very useable. I have done extensive
prototype development with it instead of using NS and
the NS dev tools. When I found the proof-of-concept
to be acceptable, I then converted the code to NS in
short order. I have done this at the last few places
of employment/contracting. General feelings from the
employer have been great to exceptional.
>
> Thanks!
>
Blind plug for both HS and me. Get the next two
issues of Next In Line for articles covering general
use to details on writing XModules (allowing you to
extend the product)... I wrote them!
Regards,
Todd Nathan
PS. I did mistakenly post the area code as (206).
The CORRECT number for Thoughtful Software is
Thoughtful Software
616 E. Locust
Fort Collins, Colorado
+1.303.221.4596
Sorry if my error has caused you any inconveniences.
From: bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: .NeXTdefaults.L
Date: 4 Jan 1995 16:10:51 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3eehab$737@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Today I decided to reorganize my Next and moved the home directories from
/usr/home/~ to /users/~.
This worked, in principle, ok. There are some applications which have to
be told the new path, e.g. the Fiend.app (dockextender) where the extended
dock had to be reenterd.
One app didn't make the change at all: cassandra.app. On launch a panel
appears with "can't create /usr/home/bernhard/.cassandra", because the
directory does not exits any more. But how to tell this the app?
I think that this has to something with the "~/.NeXTdefaults.L"-file where
the old path still can be found. But whenever I try to correct the path in
".NeXTdefaults.L" nothing works at all. I could however remove the whole
".NeXTdefaults.L", but I do not like this, as I have a very well
configured account.
Is there any possibility to erase all memory pointing to the old path
without erasing ".NeXTdefaults.L"? I like the cassandra.app a lot and
would therefore like to use it again!
Please mail any suggestions to the above adress.
Thanks,
Bernhard Mayr
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From: DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov (David R. Quarrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SOLVED: Re: Panics following Upgrade to NS 3.3 (Black H'ware)
Date: 4 Jan 1995 16:30:37 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <43013@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
In article <42992@dog.ee.lbl.gov> david@drq.lbl.gov (David Quarrie)
writes:
> I've been having problems with my '040 Cube following an upgrade to NS
> 3.3. Basically it crashes with the following panic error message at the
> slightest provocation:
>
> Panic: (cpu0) MMU invalid description during table walk
I'd like to thank John Landwehr <John_Landwehr@next.com> from NeXT for
providing the solution to this. Solution #2 below proved to be correct,
although I must admit to being mystified as to why that file didn't get
upgraded since that is an area that I didn't think I'd hacked in at all.
Still, at this point I'm delighted just to move on and enjoy my trusty
cube. Thanks again, John!
David
> From: John Landwehr <John_Landwehr@next.com>
> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 19:17:34 -0800
> To: drquarrie@lbl.gov (David Quarrie)
> Subject: Re: Panics following Upgrade to NS 3.3 (Black H'ware)
>
> Your system was not upgraded properly. You will find that any event
> that produces a sound will crash your machine.
>
> Two options:
>
> 1) Rebuild your machine.
>
> 2) I can guess one file did not get upgraded properly. Copy over a
> /usr/lib/kern_loader/Audio/audio_reloc from the CD, and see how it
> works.
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From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica won't work!
Date: 4 Jan 1995 17:16:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eel5f$4fd@aragorn.unibe.ch>
References: <3ea4ei$ocs@ratatosk.uninett.no>
Borre Ludvigsen writes
>
> Installed Mathematica 2.0 on Cube running NS 3.3 (3.2 as well for that
> matter). Everything runs along just fine until I try to evaluate an
> expression. 1+1 won't even work - but it works fine in a shell running
> math. It used to work under 3.0 (or was it 3.1?).
>
Have you looked at the kernel settings (Action->Kernels and Tasks ...)?
Maybe you once changed them to something incoherent.
--
Moritz Willers
Institute of Theoretical Physics
Sidlerstrasse 5
3012 Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: pdell@pharos.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Paul Dell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTMail via modem
Date: 4 Jan 1995 17:38:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Sender: pdell@pharos (Paul Dell)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eemfc$77u@news.bu.edu>
What is the easiest way to set up for using a Modem to send & recieve NeXTmail
via a local access provider?
Thanks,
Paul Dell
pdell@bu.edu
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do I get my "black" icons back in 3.3?
Date: 4 Jan 1995 17:59:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eenl7$6fg@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3edfs4$bsj@saba.info.ucla.edu>
In article <3edfs4$bsj@saba.info.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) writes:
>In article <D1v4JG.3ry@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) writes:
>>
>>I've just upgraded my 'station to 3.3 from 3.1, and was shocked to see that my
>>"black" icons (Terminal and the "root" icon) have been replaced by "white"
>
>root.tiff and openRoot.tiff are located in
>/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app
As for Terminal.app, do as follows to restore black app icon:
On a 3.2 system, extract icon.tiff
% segedit /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -extract __ICON app icon3.2.tiff
On a 3.3 system:
% su
# cd /NextApps/Terminal.app
# cp -p icon.tiff icon.tiff.orig
# cp -p Terminal Terminal.orig
# cp [path]/icon3.2.tiff ./icon.tiff
# segedit Terminal.orig -replace __ICON app icon.tiff -output Terminal
Re-dock Terminal icon, if you have it on the dock.
Command-u and reselect Terminal.app in FileViewer.
--
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USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Date: 4 Jan 1995 17:23:37 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eelip$7cb@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3ee05d$mus@news.doit.wisc.edu>
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
> > The web is getting to be more and more useful, and to be
> > instantly cut off from it without any warning can be very
> > very inconvenient.
>
> Drug addiction is presumably a bad thing.
But having a job is often considered a good thing.
The WWW is not "just for amusement" any more. There are a number
of information sources that I reference via WWW on a regular basis,
including RPI-specific information. I work at RPI. People call
me for information, and for some of those questions the most
reliable way to get the up-to-date answer is via our WWW server.
I pop up a WWW client to get to get to our own information so I
can answer the call and do my job. As long as the WWW client
works, this takes me just a few minutes.
When the WWW client breaks, I get to look like an idiot for the
person who is asking me a simple question. I do not appreciate
that. They want the answer, they don't want to hear how I need
to ftp off to some other host to get a WWW client so I can access
the information they need. And certainly I don't want to have to
take down their name and call them back once it's all done. I
want to answer the question, hangup the phone, and forget about it.
> >I don't begrudge the check, but the implementation of it could
> >have been much more user-friendly. The date that the check
> >goes off is irrelevent to the implementation of the check.
>
> I suppose it was quick and dirty (meaning, easy) and one didn't
> *expect* to make a mistake.
The only mistake they made (in the sense of something not working
the way they intended) was the time the check went off. As I noted,
the *time* that the check went off is irrelevent. In fact, for me
it was best that it went off when it did, as no one was around
asking me questions. The fact that Omnigroup was right on top of
the problem also made this much less of a issue for me, personally,
than it might have been. I am not complaining about the *mistake*,
I am only saying that the implementation of the *check* was not
well thought out. Offhand I'd think that it's useful to point out
the pitfalls in such implementation details.
And as I also noted, I'm not at all upset with omnigroup about
this. I'm just pointing out that WWW is getting more and more
important, and that this implementation could have been much more
user-friendly. I really don't begrudge the check at all, and in
fact I have every intention of buying the commercial version of
OmniWeb once it's released. I am not ranting and raving that they
should be burned in oil, I'm simply commenting on the implementation
of one check. It could have been done much better.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: bishopj@botany.washington.edu (John Bishop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Splus solution for Next?
Date: 4 Jan 1995 18:00:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3eenoc$hfv@news.u.washington.edu>
I need some advice on using Splus under NS.
I am currently using Co-Xist and terminal windows on black hardware to use
Splus running on a Sparc. This works fine for me. I am now considering
running NSFIP at home. The machine will also be running DOS/Windows, probably
from a separate partition since I don't think I can afford SoftPC. Are there
other folks out there running NS and Splus at home? How are you doing it?
Ideally I would like to continue using the unix version of Splus- am I right in
supposing that the only way to do this would be over the phone to the Sparc
station?
Thanks for any help!
--
John Bishop
Department of Botany
University of Washington, Seattle
bishopj@botany.washington.edu
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Archive Source for f2c?
Date: 4 Jan 1995 18:25:20 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3eep6g$dp3@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Can some kind soul refer me to an archive site where I can download the
latest version of f2c that will run on an HP running NEXTSTEP?
WIthout having an HP FORTRAN compiler this would be the next best thing.
Thanks!
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: s/w to access and displayCensus Bureau TIGER line files
Date: 4 Jan 1995 18:28:31 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3eepcf$ds3@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Does anyone know of any NEXTSTEP software for creating maps from the
Census Bureau TIGER line files available on CD rom? I already know of
some PC s/w but would prefer NS of course!
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Drivers for HP Laser jet 4p
Date: 4 Jan 1995 18:31:14 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3eephi$duv@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Can anyone refer me to a driver for the HP LJ4p that will not cost a
significant percentage of the price of the printer itself?
Thanks!
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: NeXTMail via modem
In-Reply-To: pdell@pharos.NoSubdomain.NoDomain's message of 4 Jan 1995 17:38:52 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Jan4135522@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3eemfc$77u@news.bu.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:55:22 GMT
>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Dell <pdell@pharos.NoSubdomain.NoDomain> writes:
Paul> What is the easiest way to set up for using a Modem to send
Paul> & recieve NeXTmail via a local access provider?
Paul> Thanks, Paul Dell pdell@bu.edu
What exactly is your provider "providing"?
If your provider can give you a slip or ppp connection then you can
send NeXTmail normally while connected. To receive you could use
PopOver.app with a Pop server.
If you don't have a slip/ppp access there are third party software
that can do it or you can write yourself a kermit script to get
the remote /usr/mail/user file...
Maybe you should read the following:
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, ,
support bulletin volume 3, issue 1 winter 1993
options in e-mail from home
by John S. Karabaic
"How do I send and receive electronic mail from home?" This is probably the number-one question on the interpersonal computing hit parade. Because NeXT(TM) computers have so thoroughly integrated standard, high-performance networking into the computing experience, there's no simple answer to what seems a simple question.
You should probably start with a few other questions: What kind of interface do you need, a bare-bones UNIX, command line or a full-service NeXTSTEP(TM) user interface? Do you want access to your files as well as your mail? Are you ready to learn some UNIX commands? Can you or your staff manage a point-to-point remote network to your house via modem, leased line, or Integrated Services Digital Network (ISDN)? How much time, money, and effort are you willing to spend?
This article explores the choices you have in exchanging e-mail from home and gives you a rough idea of the comparative costs and benefits. Then you'll find out more about working with a UNIX dial-in connection and learn some quick-and-dirty tricks in case all you have is a 1200-baud modem, a NeXTstation(TM) computer, a hotel room phone line, and a rapidly cooling pizza.
making choices
When you decide you want to send and receive e-mail from home, what you may really be asking for is an extension of the office network to your home or hotel room. "Extending the network" can range from dialing in on a modem to having an actual piece of wire strung from your home to the office. The capabilities you can achieve range from just being able to send and receive plain-text mail to exchanging formatted messages and file attachments with the NeXTmail(TM) application-almost as if you were actually a
t your office.
The underlying component of your network extension is the medium you'll use to make the connection. The three basic choices are:
* Regular phone line (often called POTS, for Plain Old Telephone Service)
* Leased line
* ISDN phone line
Each medium has its advantages and disadvantages, and the one you choose depends on the capabilities you want and the resources you're willing to expend to gain them. Some choices also require purchasing additional hardware or software.
POTS
The primary advantage of regular phone lines is cost. You already have a phone line at work and another at home, although you might want or need to install an additional line at either location. Add a couple of modems, and you're all set (see figure 1). Your only ongoing costs are the charges for phone calls.
figure 1: connecting with POTS
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The primary disadvantage of regular phone lines is speed-the limited bandwidth means a relatively slow connection. For many purposes, though, POTS works just fine.
The capabilities available with a regular phone line run the entire gamut-from plain-text e-mail to "transparent" networking. It all depends on your software. Here's a breakdown of the basic choices:
* UNIX commands-You use commands such as tip, mail, tar, uuencode, and compress to access and decode mail messages and attachments.
* UUCP-You configure your computers to transfer mail between your home and the office.
* On-demand TCP/IP (SLIP or PPP)-You set up additional software to provide "transparent" networking over the phone line.
UNIX commands
When you use modems and POTS to connect to your office network, you log into a character-based session and use UNIX commands to access mail. To send and receive plain-text mail, you use /usr/ucb/mail rather than the NeXTmail application (in /NextApps). Sending and receiving e-mail messages in Rich Text Format (RTF) or with file attachments requires some extra work with additional commands. We'll explore the mechanics of exchanging mail using UNIX commands later in this article.
This arrangement requires no additional software, no setup beyond modifying one or two files on each side of the connection (see NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration ), and no costs beyond regular phone charges. However, it does require the most work and knowledge on the part of the user, since everything is done with UNIX commands. For those familiar with UNIX, this arrangement can be just fine. Those with little or no UNIX experience may find it mysterious, but a bit of education can still make thi
s arrangement productive.
For more information, see "working with a dial-in connection" later in this article.
UUCP
UUCP (for UNIX-to-UNIX copy) is most commonly used to transfer mail, though you can also use it to transfer files and to execute commands. Probably the most widely used unattended batch transferfile utility in the world, UUCP is the basis for the global UUCP network.
Setup requires the modification of several files on each side of the connection, as described in Chapter 12 of NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration . You can establish a connection from the command line or automatically, using cron. Then the UUCP files manage the exchange of mail between your home and office.
The advantage of UUCP is that you can use NeXTmail-not UNIX commands-to send and receive mail. A disadvantage is that the mail you send has your home computer's address in its From field (something like earth!john@next.com). To make mail look like it came from the office network (john@next.com, for example), you'll need to make modifications to sendmail configuration files. (For more information about sendmail configuration files, see Appendix D of NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration .)
Because UUCP software is included in NeXTSTEP, you don't have to buy any additional software, and you incur no costs beyond phone charges. UUCP is practically transparent to users, since they use NeXTmail to send and receive mail. If you're willing to learn how to set up and administer UUCP, this can be an excellent choice.
For more information, see NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration; Using UUCP and Usenet and Managing UUCP and Usenet from O'Reilly & Associates; and the UNIX System Administration Handbook by Nemeth, et al. (Detailed references are provided at the end of thisarticle.)
on-demand TCP/IP
SLIP (Serial Line Internet Protocol) and PPP (Point-to-Point Protocol) are software products that provide on-demand TCP/IP (Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol) connections over telephone lines. Once you've configured the SLIP or PPP software, it can make your home machine look like it's directly attached to the office network, with all the services available that you have on the office Ethernet. You can mount remote file systems, execute network commands like ftp or telnet, and use NeXTmail.
However, this kind of dialup service can be frustrating, because while it's transparent, it can be three orders of magnitude slower than the Ethernet. This lack of speed means you probably won't want to mount remote file systems, even though it's technically possible. Be particularly careful of logging into your home computer as a user whose home directory is on the office network. Sending and receiving messages with NeXTmail works fine, but again, the lack of speed can make fetching mail a very long proce
ss.
Setting up and maintaining this service may mean that you or your support staff will need to learn more than you'd like about TCP/IP networking. This arrangement requires the purchase of additional software, but no ongoing costs beyond regular phone charges. It also requires additional software configuration on both sides of the connection. It can be frustrating for the user because, although it provides transparent networking, its lack of speed can limit the user to the UNIX command line.
For more information, see "dialing up for network service" in volume 2, issue 1, of the support bulletin and "taking your network home" in volume 2, issue 2; Chapters 10 and 11 of NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration ; TCP/IP and NFS: Internetworking in a UNIX Environment ; and the UNIX System Administration Handbook by Nemeth, et al.
leased line
A leased line is an expensive, dedicated piece of copper wire running from a wall outlet in one building to a wall outlet in another building across a city, a continent, or a hemisphere. You can lease lines of varying bandwidth (you've probably heard of T1 or fractional T1 links). In general, the higher the bandwidth, the higher the transmission speed possible (from 56 kilobits/second to 1.44 megabits/second). Because a leased line is essentially just a dedicated phone line of increased bandwidth, you can
do anything on a leased line you can do with POTS-only faster.
You can connect your computers to a leased line with modems, or for higher speeds, you can use a device such as SnapLink, from Morning Star Technologies (see figure 2). Running SLIP or PPP over such a connection is considerably faster than over a regular phone line. With a bridge or router, you can connect directly from the Ethernet port on you computer to the office network. Such devices are available from Network Applications Technology and Cisco Systems, among others.
figure 2: connecting a leased line
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With any of these devices, you can achieve transparent networking with a very close simulation of actually being at the office. However, depending on your leased line's bandwidth, response may be considerably slower than on a computer directly connected to your office Ethernet.
This scheme requires the additional cost of the leased line and possibly additional software and hardware. Depending on the variation you choose, it may require very little education for the user to achieve transparent networking. The primary advantage of a leased line is its speed; the primary disadvantage is its cost. If you can afford it, a leased line can be a perfect solution.
For more information, see the references mentioned for PPP and SLIP.
ISDN phone lines
With NeXTSTEP Release 3 you can use ISDN phone lines to extend your office network to home easily, quickly, and transparently. Simply described as digital telephones, ISDN can provide transmission speeds of up to 128 kilobits/second.
The local and long-distance charges for ISDN calls are usually the same as for POTS, but the initial setup charges and equipment costs are not. In addition to the ISDN phone line, you'll need a network termination device (such as an NT1), a power supply, and a device called the Hayes ISDN Extender for each end of the line (see figure 3). This allows you a connection up to four times faster than a 9600-baud modem.
figure 3: connecting with ISDN
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The catch is that most local phone companies don't offer ISDN service yet. Even if yours does, you may have to be within 18,000 feet of a central office (depending on the company) to get the service. This last problem should be solved in the next year or so, as ISDN repeaters go on the market from companies like AT&T and Northern Telecom. In addition, equipment availability and costs vary widely from carrier to carrier, as does ISDN knowledge. Coordinate with your telecommunications department or guru abou
t ISDN availability at work and at home. Your telecom people can save you hours of headaches and buck-passing by well-meaning phone company marketing folks.
So using ISDN requires additional hardware and a special phone line. Additional configuration is necessary, but you use NeXTSTEP applications. For the user, this option can most closely resemble being at the office. Its primary advantages are speed and transparency; its primary disadvantages are cost and limited availability.
For more information, see Chapter 11 in NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration .
recap of connection options
The medium you choose for your connection depends on the capabilities you want to provide, the UNIX sophistication of the user, and the resources you can dedicate to equipment and support. Using a modem over POTS is the least expensive option, but it may require additional maintenance or training. A leased line or ISDN will make life easier for the user, but both can be expensive, and administration can be more involved. ISDN might not even be available yet.
Table 1 summarizes the advantages and disadvantages of each option.
table 1: comparing options for e-mail at home
POTS
setup:
Requires minimal expertise. For UUCP, you need additional administrative knowledge. For SLIP or PPP, you may also need to know about TCP/IP.
resource cost:
Two modems, cables, phone line. Additional setup time for UUCP. SLIP and PPP are additional software products and will probably require additional training.
advantages:
Lowest costs for additional hardware or software. Can be the simplest administratively, depending on the sophistication of the user.
disadvantages:
Slowest connection, making transparent networking iffy at best. User may need to know UNIX commands. UUCP, SLIP, and PPP require additional administrative knowledge.
leased line
setup:
Similar to setting up a node on your network. You may need to learn more than you'd like about TCP/IP and telephony issues such as vendors and tariffs.
resource cost:
Large installation and equipment fee (varies with equipment and carrier). Monthly charges in hundreds or thousands of dollars, depending on distance, bandwidth.
advantages:
Completely transparent and fast.
disadvantages:
Cost for the line and additional training for support staff in TCP/IP and NetInfo(TM).
ISDN
setup:
Uses NeXTSTEP applications (in /NextAdmin). You may need to provide your own ISDN expertise.
resource cost:
Network termination devices and Hayes Extenders, plus phone charges.
advantages:
Completely transparent and fast.
disadvantages:
Cost and availability.
working with a dial-in connection
Now we'll return to the bare-bones equipment necessary to dial in and use UNIX commands to send and receive e-mail and extract attachments. You can use a NeXTSTEP computer, a PC or Macintosh, running terminal-emulation software, or even just an ASCII terminal. You'll also need a modem and a phone line, of course.
You can use a variety of terminal-emulation and communications applications to read your mail, but for these instructions we'll assume you're using tip in a Terminal window. You can also use the GNU emacs mail reader (rmail) to send and retrieve mail, or you can find one of many text-based UNIX command-line mail readers that are available for Berkeley UNIX, but we're going to assume that you're using /usr/ucb/mail. In other words, these examples use only the software that comes bundled with NeXTSTEP.
to set up and connect
First you need to set up your hardware and software on both sides of the connection. Here's what you do:
1. Set up a modem on a computer on your office network to receive calls-attach appropriate cables and turn on a getty process for the correct serial port. The procedure is described in NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration .
2. Set up a modem on your home computer, whether NeXTSTEP computer, PC, or ASCII terminal.
3. Configure your terminal-emulation and communications software. For tip, this means modifying the file /etc/remote. See the UNIX manual pages for tip and remote.
4. Call the modem on the network from home, using your favorite communications program.
5. Log in with your login name and password at the UNIX prompt.
Whenever you're going to be reading mail from the command line, you want to be sure that NeXTmail won't interfere by fetching incoming mail messages. It's best to make sure you're not logged into a computer on the office network while you're logging in remotely. Failing that, make sure that NeXTmail isn't running, or that it at least has the New Mail Retrieval preferences option set to Manual.
to read and send plain-text new mail
Once you're logged into a computer on the office network, use mail to read or send plain-text e-mail. If you're not familiar with the program, see the UNIX manual page for mail.
If mail tells you that you don't have any mail messages, and you think you should, your mail spool directory might be something other than the default (/usr/spool/mail). From a computer on the office network you can check NeXTmail preferences to see if the Spool Dir option is set to something else. Remotely, you can use the dread -l command and look for an entry that begins "Mail SpoolDir." If it's not /usr/spool/mail, you'll need to supply a command-line argument to mail to make sure the program functions
properly:
mail -f /my/nonstandard/mail/path
If you normally have your NeXTmail preferences set to archive outgoing mail, you may want to copy yourself on anything you send out. mail doesn't archive things in Outgoing.mbox.
to decode e-mail with Rich Text or file attachments
NeXTmail uses UNIX utilities to encode Rich Text messages and file attachments into a standard format. First, the mail message and any attachments are packed into a single archive file with tar. This file isthen compressed with compress and run through a utility called uuencode, which takes nonprintable and 8-bit ASCII characters andexpands them into 7-bit ASCII characters. Files processed by uuencode are somewhat larger, but they can be safely passed on to older communications links and mailers that choke
on anything but
7-bit ASCII.
To unpack a mail message, you just reverse the process, using uudecode, zcat or uncompress, and tar. You can unpack mail messages on the office network and transfer the resulting files home, oryou can transfer mail messages home and then unpack them. A packed message is contained in a single file that's smaller than the unpacked message, soit's faster to transfer messages and then unpack them on your home computer. If you want to transfer only part of the message, or if you don't have access to UNIX comman
ds on your home computer, you'llneed to unpack the message before transferring the components you want.
When you use mail to examine a NeXTmail message with Rich Text or attachments, it looks like very nicely formatted random characters. Here's a sample:
From jwong Sun Oct 25 23:11:29 1992
Return-Path: <jwong>
Received: by next.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S)
id AA00499; Sun, 25 Oct 92 23:11:24 -0500
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 92 23:11:24 -0500
From: John Wong <jwong>
Message-Id: >
Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1)
Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1)
To: jwong
Subject: Hey, John
Next-Attachment: .tar.471.Hey__John.attach, 1361, 1/1, 1914, 0
Status: R
begin 666 .tar.471.Hey__John.attach
M'YV0:=R0*8/'A1PZ9@`H7,BPH<.'$"-*G$BQ(HB+-FC0``'@(H@:,6QP]'@1
MQDB2'F>$O%A#Q@T9-FS<N$'CAL<:-V+,Z%BQI\\^?0(,*'4JTJ-&C2),J7;IT
M#Y>#9F!P">-F3AJG9MZXH4-'#!LN4<&Z2<,&!)4T;<K,:2'E31NJ._HHX/)6
MSADV,63`F%OWC)R\\>[G`"2.'#!<Z>'+8D(HX1@Z]A_'(P(&#,9X9.&A8IE'9
M,L[%D65"1GS#1N7(.#):5@Q#:E@Q4M-(K</&C=8R8.=P!CM&ZIBH(*:X+0-"
M2IHQ:,P2I,,"Q!,V9$`(J4.&3!X7V+G,5:!FC78%<IF4(>(BQXV&`2Z-`(`!
M``,@0)J$<7)&//D<.-!?(L'>/7SY]-E77@[ZE=!?`__-5]]X+L30&D/IF7!@
M@@$RZ&`,$%YRPH3Q*2B@@S)DB`*'`"Y(GH,[+91>"B1Z:"$,-&2H0HL5G@A#
M#1FN0*.)#<)@0X8L[/@A#.>I>$D+0KZ8GY$N)&DC@4:^<"!35%9IY9589JGE
MEEQVZ>678(8IYIADEFGFF6BFJ>::`5A2#0`4`+``A3S&"$";UL`I)YT"XGBG
M)=?H.6>'-;KPXY_8",HG@T6VF8VBA/*X9)O:0%JB@%"VN4U_[T4ZI$/Z_,#I
MHB=B"*$EW(SJJ84AGMJ-JI=:F***EG@#JXLGVDGK-[<6&H.?#+TR2*\\\\AH2>
M)>`0^V&1#.D#A+(6+LG0(,)`>R*4M(9CK0MZ.?0*(=O*8"JMXH3;:K-!A#NK
M0FV.$ZZN"PTR3+C`LFL).>$>&FPAX3)K;SGA2FNO.>%B:^\\YV\\X`P['H)#RN
MO>DD?*Z]ZB2\\[IUKZ)`PO'^ZDW"]"EU1<7N=QDK>#/K:^T["_BJD#[\\DD^H"
M9NBML4/"!O\\)S[::'1L/SP\\KA$4//$^LD#-P\\'QQF_+PS#$`U80`0)`EX^H"
M#2`;18!"51=*0\\I_SL-SRP"XTP'/`O])#\\\\Y`Z"/(=O6L/"I]<0==``YG!WS
MJN2U=*P]<2]MR3UQ<]PF/G&#W&8^<8/=ICYQM]SF/G&GW28_<>?<9C_;+G:L
M/YW?;<D_G1N=GD)[FVSHTI<$T+GAEPC0N>*7#-"YXY=LG;K5,NE70.>67V)`
MYYI?<L"V-\\QM)`+(WWU)`LB;?HD"R+.^`/*P,X`\\[0T@C[L#R$M^R0/(!P\\!
M\\L5'L&UE^DFPOO,3K"]]G+L7B@/K%:P/NP7KTW[!^KAKSXBZ)BFR!65K_N&;
#"R@#
`
end
If you want to know how large a message is so you know whether it's feasible to pull over the entire packed message, look at the number after "attach" in the line that begins "Next-Attachment:". In this example, 1361 is the number of characters in the message from the word "begin" through the word "end."
Let's step through extracting a Rich Text message, assuming you've already logged into your network computer from home and are running mail:
1. Save the packed message into a file and then exit mail. Here's an example of saving a message into a file called /tmp/mail (input is in bold; prompts are in italics):
earth> mail
Mail version 5.3 2/18/88. Type ? for help.
"/usr/spool/mail/jwong": 1 message 1 new 0 unread
>1 jwong Sun Oct 25 23:11 40/1791 "Hey, John"
& save 1 /tmp/mail
"/tmp/mail" [New file] 39/1791
& exit
earth>
Be aware that using the quit command eliminates the message fromthe spool directory. If you want to keep the message, use exit instead.
2. If you're going to unpack the message on your home computer, transfer the file /tmp/mail home and perform the next three steps on your home computer. If not, perform the next three steps on the network computer.
3. Use your favorite command-line text editor (like ed, vi, or emacs) to edit the file you've saved the message into (/tmp/mail in the example). First, delete everything before the line that starts with "begin":
begin 666 .tar.471.Hey__John.attach
This line tells uudecode both the file name to place the decoded file in (.tar.471.Hey__John.attach) and the permissions to set on that file once it's done (666). See the UNIX manual page for ls to learn how permission bits translate into those numbers.
Change the long file name (.tar.471.Hey__John.attach) to something easier for uuencode and tar to work with, like mail.tar.Z. Zisthe standard suffix for a compressed file, and .tar is a conventional suffix for a tape archive that's been stuffed into a regular file.
Save the file and exit the editor.
4. Use cd to get to /tmp and then use uudecode to extract the compressed tar file:
earth> ls
console.log mail
earth> uudecode mail
earth> ls
console.log mail mail.tar.Z
Notice that uudecode has created the file you named on the "begin" line: mail.tar.Z.
5. Uncompress the archive and extract the mail message and any attachments (zcat is a version of uncompress that was created for use in a pipeline):
earth> zcat mail.tar.Z | tar xvf -
x index.rtf, 206 bytes, 1 tape blocks
The Rich Text message will always be in a file called index.rtf; you may have to hunt for any file attachments, because they'll have the same names as the original files.
6. If you've been doing your unpacking on the network computer, transfer the document and any attachments over to your home computer. You may want to use a file transfer utility such as Kermit or Xmodem, especially if your modem doesn't provide error correction.
If your home computer isn't running NeXTSTEP, any RTF files can be examined using a text editor or just by displaying the files from the command line with cat or more. Because RTF is ASCII-based, it's surprisingly readable from the command line-there are just a lot of extra backslashes and numbers to ignore.
Any attached files will only be useful on your home computer if youhave the corresponding applications, such as WordPerfect, or WriteNow,.
quick-and-dirty shortcuts for decoding messages
If your home computer is running NeXTSTEP, you can use an alternate method to transfer and save mail messages:
1. Use mail on the network computer to display the packed mail message in your Terminal window.
2. On your home computer, open a new, untitled ASCII window in Edit (be sure not to open an RTF window).
3. Copy everything from the line that starts with "begin" through the line that reads "end" from the Terminal window to the Edit window.
4. Continue with step 3 of the previous procedure, making your modifications in Edit. You'll be working on your home computer to unpack the message, so there's no need to transfer any files.
Another alternative that works for Rich Text messages is this:
1. Follow the steps in the earlier procedure to unpack the mail message on the network computer.
2. Display the resulting file (index.rtf) in the Terminal window using cat.
3. On your home computer, open an untitled ASCII window inEdit.
4. Copy the results of the cat command from the Terminal window to the Edit window.
5. Save the file with an .rtf extension. Then close and reopen thefile.
A third alternative using Copy and Paste uses NeXTmail to unpack the message for you:
1. Log into the network computer and use mail to display the packed message in your Terminal window.
2. Open a second Terminal window on your home computer and begin a mail message to yourself by typing mail me (or some other local account). Type a subject heading and press Return.
3. Copy the packed message beginning with the line that starts "Next-Attachment:" and ending with the line that reads "end" from the first Terminal window. Paste this into the second Terminal window, where you've begun your mail message. Type a period (.) at the beginning of a line and press Return twice.
4. Use NeXTmail to retrieve the mail message-it will unpack the message for you, including any Rich Text or file attachments.
Messages retrieved this way will include the line "Status: R". If this bothers you, eliminate the line from the copy procedure in step 3 (be sure to leave a blank line between "Next-Attachment:" and "begin," or NeXTmail won't unpack the message).
All methods that rely on copying and pasting assume that your modem connection is completely noise free. If the file is corrupted by a lousy phone connection, you'll get errors during the uudecode, tar, or zcat steps, or NeXTmail won't be able to unpack the message. If you're having such problems, use one of the methods described earlier that transfers files rather than copies text.
Watch out for the size and format of certain attachments. Lip Service(TM) attachments are in .vox files-be sure to check their size before you decide to transfer them over. Some documents, such as Concurrence documents and WriteNow documents with graphics, aren't stored in flat files. These documents are actually directories that the Workspace Manager(TM) displays as files. You must transfer the entire directory to use the document.
to read existing e-mail
If you want to use this UNIX dial-in method to read existing mail in your Active.mbox or other mailboxes on the office network, you still have to give up directly reading attachments, but you can transfer them over and read them on your home computer:
1. Make a note of where your NeXT mail is stored.
You can see the full path in your Mail Dir preference in NeXTmail at the office (usually ~/Mailboxes). Normally you can't see the directories in which NeXTmail stores your messages, but if you select your Active.mbox when on the office network and then choose Open As Folder from the Workspace Manager File menu, another window shows you all the files and directories inside the Active.mbox.
2. Make sure you've either logged out at the office or quit NeXTmail.
This is very important. You can ruin your NeXT mailboxes if you tryto read them from the command line and NeXTmail simultaneously.
3. From home, log in with the modem.
4. Use your UNIX mail program to read the existing plain text mail in your Active.mbox:
earth> mail -f ~jwong/MailBoxes/Active.mbox/mbox
Mail version 5.3 2/18/88. Type ? for help.
"/local/jwong/MailBoxes/Active.mbox/mbox": 472 messages 446 new 466 unread
To read mail stored in some other mailbox, replace Active.mbox with the appropriate directory name (ending in .mbox).
Anything other than plain-text mail will be stored as attachments in your .mbox directory in a directory named something similar to the message's subject line. Thus, a message titled "Re: Help" will have a directory called something like Re__Help inside Active.mbox. To access the attachments, use cd and ls to locate the correct directory.
For help tracking down the attachments directory, check the message with the mail command. In the following example, the name of the directory that contains the attachments and Rich Text for this message is Oct__92_Byte.attach.
& t1
Message 1:
From Alice_Glass Tue Sep 29 13:40:00 1992
Next-Reference: Oct__92_Byte.attach, 1/1
Return-Path: <Alice_Glass>
Received: by earth.next.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0X)
id AA00450; Tue, 29 Sep 92 10:38:45 -0700
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 10:38:45 -0700
Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1)
Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1)
To: jwong
Subject: Oct '92 Byte
Status: R
To access the attachments for this message, change directories to ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/Oct__92_Byte.attach. There you'll see a file called index.rtf that contains the text of the e-mail message. You'll also see the actual attachments, such as WordPerfect documents.
You can now transfer them home, as described earlier.
to send e-mail with Rich Text or file attachments
Now that you've learned how to receive mail with Rich Text and file attachments, take a look at sending similar mail:
1. Use NeXTmail on your home computer to compose the mail message, just as you would on the office network. Address the message to yourself (me or some other local account). Make sure thatthe New Mail Retrieval preference is set to Manual before yousend the message.
2. Open a Terminal window and use mail to display the packed message.
3. Save the message in a local file, either with the save command in mail or by copying and pasting the text to an Edit ASCII window. Edit the file to remove everything through the line that begins "Next-Attachment:".
4. Open a second Terminal window, connect to the office network, log in, and transfer the file.
5. Start a mail message on the network computer by typing mail joe. Type a subject heading, press Return, and then use ~r filename to read in the contents of the packed mail message. Type a period (.) at the beginning of a line and press Return.
If you don't require a subject heading, you can just send the message by typing mail joe < filename .
An alternative to this method uses Copy and Paste:
1. Compose and send the mail message using NeXTmail on your home computer.
2. Start up Terminal and open two windows. In one, use mail to display the packed message. In the other, connect to the remote computer, log in, and begin a mail message with mail jane. Type a subject heading and press Return.
3. Copy everything from the line beginning "Next-Attachment:" through the line "end" from the local window to the remote window. Complete the mail message in the remote window by typing a period (.) at the beginning of a line and pressing Return.
Again, copying and pasting runs the risk of corruption if your phone connection is noisy. If you don't want "Status: R" to show up in the mail message, use two steps to copy the message in step 3, omitting the status line-again, make sure there's a blank line before "begin" or the message won't be unpacked when it's read by NeXTmail.
summing up
You can use a range of technologies to exchange mail from home, atvarying levels of performance and usability. To get the full NeXTSTEP user interface at home with anything but ISDN requires knowledge of TCP/IP wide-area networking. To simply read plain-text e-mail requires some UNIX knowledge. To transfer attachments requires a bit more, as well as quite a lot of patience.
Technologies like ISDN that allow transparent access from NeXTSTEP computer to NeXTSTEP computer across phone lines are coming into their own. The next few years will see an explosion of wireless networking technologies, such as Personal Communication Services (PCS), which allow Intel,-based portable computers running NeXTSTEP to connect to the network from almost anywhere.
Choosing the right technology depends on the home computer, the bandwidth and quality of the link to the office, the budget, and the user's UNIX sophistication and willingness to learn.
references
Garfinkel, Simson and Gene Spafford. Practical UNIX Security . Sebastopol, CA: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., 1991.
Nemeth, Evi, Garth Snyder, and Scott Seebass. UNIX System Administration Handbook. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 1989.
NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration . Reading, MA: Addison-Wesley Publishing Co., 1992.
Santifaller, Michael. TCP/IP and NFS: Internetworking in a UNIX Environment ; translated by Stephen S. Wilson. Reading, MA: Addison-Wesley Publishing Co., 1991.
Todino, Grace and O'Reilly, Tim. Managing UUCP and Usenet . Sebastopol, CA: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., 1990.
Todino, Grace and O'Reilly, Tim. Using UUCP and Usenet . Sebastopol, CA: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., 1987.
UNIX in a Nutshell for BSD 4.3 . Sebastopol, CA: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., 1990.
UNIX manual pages for getty, mail, remote, tip, and tty.
,
Copyright 1994 NeXT Computer, Inc. All rights reserved.
NeXT, the NeXT logo, NeXTanswers and NEXTSTEP are the trademarks of NeXT Computer, Inc.
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** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca **
** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal **
****************************************************
From: cmarq@cube.net (Christoph Marquardt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where to get a phone answering app?
Date: 4 Jan 1995 19:24:19 GMT
Organization: CUBENet Multiline BBS
Message-ID: <3eesl3$vj@salyko.cube.net>
References: <1994Dec29.114419.9600@mjw.octagon.de> <3e9bnl$lok@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Axel Habermann (kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de) schrieb:
> ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
> /pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs/am.1.16.tar.gz
BTW, does am work with 3.3 ?
--
Christoph Marquardt - cmarq@cube.net (NO NeXTmail,please)
URL: http://www.cube.net/~cmarq
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: camm@enhanced.com (Camm Maguire)
Subject: SOCKS and NS 2.1
Message-ID: <D1w8np.2xE@tigger.jvnc.net>
Sender: news@tigger.jvnc.net (Zee News Genie)
Organization: Enhanced Investment Technologies
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:28:37 GMT
Greetings! Has anyone gotten SOCKS to compile under NeXTSTEP? I seem
to have compiled at least rftp, but I get a gethostbyname error when I
try to use it to connect to any host, even though nslookup returns the
correct address for the host. I'm using BIND for the name lookup, with
the appropriate nameserver specified in /etc/resolv.conf.
I think this problem arises from NetInfo blocking the normal operation
of gethostbyname, but I'm not sure. I wish I could turn NetInfo off,
but I can't seem to do this without disabling the machine. Can anyone
please help here?
Thanks!
Camm
======================================================================
"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." Baha'u'llah
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: JetPilot recommendation
Date: 4 Jan 1995 19:28:02 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3eess2$i91@news.u.washington.edu>
I had no end of problems trying to make printing work between a Dell
590/XL pentium machine and a HP-4MP printer via the parallel port. While
the NeXT printer test page worked just fine, anything more substantial
would invariably hose the machine. To make matters worse, there wouldn't
be any indicators of what went wrong--no log file entries, panic boxes,
etc. It just died ungracefully.
I spent a month troubleshooting this problem. I finally gave up, returned
the HP-4MP, added 2MB of memory to an old HP-2P+ I already had, and bought
JetPilot 1.6.
Printing work like a charm now. Everything I've thrown at the printer has
printed, including all the test prints that would crash the -4MP.
If you're in the market for a printing solution, JetPilot is worth
considering. You can order it by email, and they fax|email the
registration info back pronto.
Sign me,
A satisfied customer with no ties to JetPilot's creators.
bb
--
Bill Barker
Biological Structure, SM-20
University of Washington
Seattle WA 98195
(206) 543-7315
"In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is
Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Date: 4 Jan 1995 19:14:06 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <3ees1u$i0o@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <wj2LiCC00iV302FNYN@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <wj2LiCC00iV302FNYN@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
:Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Jan-95 OmniWeb! by Steve
:Dekorte@symnet.net
:> My copy of OmniWeb refuses to load because it says it's
:> and old copy and I should get a new one.
:>
:> I'm running 3.0 on a NeXTstep, I can't run MAB executables,
:> And the recent version of OmniWeb is MAB = I can't run it.
:[ ... ]
:> Is there anything I can do?
:
:Yes. Before starting OmniWeb, go to Preferences, set the date back (a
:year is the easiest thing to do). Then start up OmniWeb and return the
:date to normal-- it seems OmniWeb only checks the time when it first
:starts up.
:
:Omni: Thanks for OmniWeb, and thanks for making it freely available,
:but it's not particularly cool to time-bomb your software without
:letting people know about it. IMHO, doing so is akin to software which
:sends email without getting the user's permission, first.
While I'll agree, a "timebomb" without warning isn't too cool, I wouldn't put
it in the same category as "mail" without knowledge. Afterall, they are
providing this software rather "cheaply" -- so having it die off after awhile
doesn't sound too unreasonable. It would have been nice to be "forwarned"
(or better yet, implement an immediate jump to the Omni ftp site if the user
says 'OK' -- to get the latest version). Of course sending mail without
alerting the user is akin to putting a wire-tap on their phone when being
called out for a service/repair job -- not _even_ in the same category of
_low_.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: 3.3 with Mux 1.5
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 21:19:07 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jan4.211907.22750@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
References: <3eb0fb$p9@teletalk.teletalk.se>
teletalk.teletalk.se!dg (Dag Gruneau) writes:
>I have used the excelklent serial driover Mux 1.5 for a long time
>with 3.2 getting news and mail over uucp. Suddenly it has stopped
>working or (something has) when I installed 3.3
>
>Has anybody else experienced this? and maybe someone has a solution.
I posted, before the Christmas season, in comp.sys.next.bugs about this. I
am *still* waiting for NeXT to deliver my copy of NS3.3 to start working on
this problem (Even though my credit card has been `affected' by the bill for
the upgrade ...)
I can only hope that I can solve this problem quickly upon the arrival of the
CD. Since I released the source code, though, if someone can come up with a
fix, we *all* can appreciate!
In the meantime, I can only ask for some patience as you all bear the brunt of
the still borken SerialPorts driver. The fix *might* be (and you perform this
at your own risk *please*, I have no way of knowing if this will work, nor will
I take any responsibility for damage resulting from this suggestion, but look
forward to someone saying it helps) for the moment to copy the NS3.2
/mach_kernel file into the system for the interim (yuck).
Bonne Annee! -- Mark Salyzyn
From: wshipley@ocelot.nwest.mccaw.com (Wil Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Date: 4 Jan 1995 20:24:22 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ef05m$3f0@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <3ecvk3$8kj@usenet.rpi.edu>
Garance A. Drosehn writes:
> Well, even ignoring the quite understandable honest mistake, the
> way this timed-check goes off is not particularly friendly.
There are lots of implementations we could have done, and probably should
have. It boiled down to us assuming everyone would have long ago
downloaded the new version before the old one expired, and so we decided
not to spend a lot of time making it a really user-friendly feature.
OmniWeb will not continue expiring; the current version is the last one we
plan to have an expiration time on. There WILL be a MUCH MUCH MUCH better
version out before it expires, and I'll post a message telling everyone to
download the new version as soon as it's ready.
Also, I'll put OmniWeb on the archive sites starting with the next
release, so you won't have trouble downloading it from us.
Again, I apologize for the inconvenience I caused.
-Wil Shipley
Omni Development, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: moirl@cuug.ab.ca (Lindsay Moir B288-4624 H286-7377)
Subject: Joint Smalltalk OOT SIG Meeting On Rumbaugh Jan 10/95
Message-ID: <D1v7Hq.K52@cuug.ab.ca>
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
Distribution: ab
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 05:03:08 GMT
The next meeting of the Smalltalk Users Group (STUG) will be in
conjunction with the CIPS OOT SIG on January 10, 1995 at 4:00
PM at
Synerlogic Inc.
Suite 2020
355 4th Avenue SW
Calgary, AB, Canada
T2P 0J1
Our host for the meeting is John Chaychuk of Synerlogic.
The agenda for the meeting on November 16, 1994 is as follows.
Review Minutes 4:00 PM
OMT Presentation By Merv Matson 4:30 PM
Networking 5:15 PM
Wrap-up 6:00 PM
Mr. Matson's presentation will address Object Oriented Analysis
and Design methodology (or process) with a focus on Rumbaugh's
OMT - the Object Modeling Technique. OMT is one of a few OO
development methodologies that is gaining enough support amongst
developers to be recommended on the basis of a 'critical mass'
argument. OMT is supported by an extensive literature, including a
good reference text (Rumbaugh et al), CASE tools (eg from Cadre
Technologies), a community of users, and knowledgeable
consultants.
Bio Of Merv Matson
Mr. Matson has strengths in software development, software
development methodology, software quality, and project
management. Mr. Matson is currently working on the Software
Engineering Management Certificate Program jointly ran by
University of Calgary, ACTC Technologies, and Motorola.
Smalltalk specifics: formal study at a summer course at Stanford
University taught by Adele Goldberg in 1990; teaching object
oriented programming with Smalltalk at the University of Calgary
since September 1991; Mr. Matson has worked for Imperial Oil,
Shell Canada, the Defense Research Board, and also founded the
Computer Career Institute.
If you want to attend this joint STUG/CIPS OOT meeting please
email Lindsay Moir at moirl@cuug.ab.ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: SAP
Message-ID: <1995Jan4.125428.2030@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <3ebl37$re9@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:54:28 GMT
In article <3ebl37$re9@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev) writes:
> In article <3eam5s$1gm@taz.ramp.com> adstruijk@news.ramp.com (Adrian
Struijk)
> writes:
> > Can anyone tell me what SAP is and stands for? I suspect it is a
> > systems development workbench and stands for Systems, Analysis and
> > Planning. Where can I find/read more on SAP?
> >
>
> SAP is the biggest german software house (the german version of
> MacroSh..t -- or was it MicroSoft ;-)) Their product is called R3
> (they claim, it's better then Star Wars R2, but don't believe it!
> It's the most ugly peace of source on our planet! The funny think
> is, I was told from a guy working in SAP R&D, that NeXT Inc. will
> buy the R3. Please don't ask me why! My explanation is, that S.P.J.
> has eaten bad food.
>
To be a bit more specific, R/3 is a business application suite (finance,
accounting, inventory, production planning, and many more) built in a
client server fashion. Many workplace frontends dance around a few
application servers who are heavily networked to a relally big database
server. The whole thing is based on CPI-C (aka CICS in open systems
clothes - a rose by any name ;-) and consists of around a dozen modules
written in SAP's fourth GL and linked by a very impressive maze of
database tables.
By its sheer existance it creates an enormous business opportunity for a
new class of system specialists (nearly a third of all classified job
offers in German computer industry periodicals is about SAP specialists).
The most intriguing fact is that those specialists are hired per module.
So you might find IS departments with several of them, one for every
module (chuckle).
The business model of SAP R/3 has become almost standard (so NeXT Inc
won't go under by adopting it - remember, you adopt SAP's business model,
not the other way round ;-). The really interesting point would be in the
fact that SAP's most successful opponent in the US market is Oracle. And
wasn't there something about an Oracle boss on the board of NeXT Inc.?
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle,comp.sys.next.software
From: ihw@cbnews.cb.att.com (irwin.h.walkenfeld)
Subject: Looking for Nextstep GUI front end to SQL database (Oracle)
Message-ID: <D1wCA2.MGJ@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Keywords: nextstep sql questor
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 19:46:48 GMT
Can anyone recommend a GUI front end to Oracle running on Nextstep
(the front end runs on Nextstep, the database may be elsewhere)?
The use will be mainly for creating reports.
I'm playing around with a product called Questor, which is
basically a spreadsheet, but its report formatting capabilities
leave much to be desired.
Info/leads/experience will be much appreciated.
Irwin Walkenfeld
ihw@globe1.att.com
From: shess@icicle.winternet.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 Mail shortcomings?
Date: 04 Jan 1995 23:05:19 GMT
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SHESS.95Jan4170520@icicle.winternet.com>
References: <3dv4v6$igd@news.cais.com> <950102220901.790AACUQ.malc@white>
In-reply-to: mmalcolm Crawford's message of Mon, 2 Jan 1995 22:09:01 GMT
In article <950102220901.790AACUQ.malc@white>,
mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
>> The folks at NeXT were great in helping me do .sig files
>>using terminal services but we're all stumped on how to do quoted
>>replies.
>
>Here's part of a message I sent to colleagues here a while back:
<...>
>I find the combination of remove quotes and double quote useful
>for "requoting" text which might be > 80 columns if I quote it
>again.
This snippet gave me an uncontrollable urge to toot my own horn.
A couple years ago, during the alpha/beta cycle of the first version
of TickleServices, Carl Edman contributed a wonderful little service
which "recognizes" angle-bracket and whitespace quoting, snips off
the quote information, reformats the text to a "normal" screen
width, and puts the quotes back in. So, if you start out with text
like this:
>>The folks at NeXT were great in helping me do .sig files using terminal
services but we're all stumped on how to do quoted replies.
>
>Here's part of a message I sent to colleagues here a while back:
<...>
>I find the combination of remove quotes and double quote useful for
"requoting" text which might be > 80 columns if I quote it again.
you can select it and run the "Mail/Reformat Text" service to turn
it into:
>>The folks at NeXT were great in helping me do .sig files
>>using terminal services but we're all stumped on how to do
>>quoted replies.
>
>Here's part of a message I sent to colleagues here a while
>back:
<...>
>I find the combination of remove quotes and double quote useful
>for "requoting" text which might be > 80 columns if I quote
>it again.
On the not-so-remote chance that the news software truncated things,
that first part contained two long logical lines which wrapped
around into two physical lines apiece.
In any case, I've modified the service to also handle "quoting"
with the # and / characters (# shell comment, // Objective-C comment).
Though I love TickleServices for a variety of reasons, this single
service probably accounts for 90% of my usage. That's not to say
I don't use ten or twenty of the services in a day - rather, I
probably use the Reformat Text service more than a hundred times a
day.
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/demos/programming/TickleServices1.11.tar.gz
can be run on NeXT, Intel, and HPPA hardware.
We now return to our regularily scheduled program,
---
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Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208
Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108E, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332
<?If you haven't the time to design, where will you find the time to debug?>
From: schaub@tam2000.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail via modem
Date: 5 Jan 1995 03:01:14 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3efndq$9mh@news.tamu.edu>
References: <3eemfc$77u@news.bu.edu>
Try using TipTop.app if you are logging into a unix system. Their newest version allows you to upload and download E-mail. It allows me to use the Mail.app on my standalone Nextstation and pipe the mail through the modem.
Otherwise you can save the messages to a file, transfer the file through the modem and then mail it on the other end.
Paul Dell (pdell@pharos.NoSubdomain.NoDomain) wrote:
: What is the easiest way to set up for using a Modem to send & recieve NeXTmail
: via a local access provider?
: Thanks,
: Paul Dell
: pdell@bu.edu
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXFax Help
Date: 5 Jan 1995 04:26:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3efse3$d56@mark.ucdavis.edu>
I installed NXFax and it does not work--the NXFax monitor says
"Looking for Driver"--the installation process said that installation
was sucessful. I usually use my modem with kermit--is this whwere the
problem lies? thanks in advance
pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXFax Help
Date: 5 Jan 1995 04:29:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3efsj1$d56@mark.ucdavis.edu>
installed NXFax and it does not work--the NXFax monitor says
"Looking for Driver"--the installation process said that installation
was sucessful. I usually use my modem with kermit--is this whwere the
problem lies? thanks in advance
pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
Why do I need NXFax driver? Why don't the drivers that come
with the machine ie Mix Fax Modem work?
From: bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .NeXTdefaults.L, THANKS
Date: 5 Jan 1995 08:38:21 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3egb5t$orn@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3eehab$737@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Please no more comments. The problem was solved.
Thanks to all who mailed me
-Bernhard Mayr
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From: cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <D1xBAD.nuI@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 08:23:01 GMT
References: <3ee05d$mus@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3eelip$7cb@usenet.rpi.edu>
Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it.
In article <3eelip$7cb@usenet.rpi.edu>,
Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>> Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
>> >I don't begrudge the check, but the implementation of it could
>> >have been much more user-friendly. The date that the check
>> >goes off is irrelevent to the implementation of the check.
>>
>> I suppose it was quick and dirty (meaning, easy) and one didn't
>> *expect* to make a mistake.
>The only mistake they made (in the sense of something not working
>the way they intended) was the time the check went off. As I noted,
>the *time* that the check went off is irrelevent. In fact, for me
>it was best that it went off when it did, as no one was around
>asking me questions. The fact that Omnigroup was right on top of
>the problem also made this much less of a issue for me, personally,
>than it might have been. I am not complaining about the *mistake*,
>I am only saying that the implementation of the *check* was not
>well thought out. Offhand I'd think that it's useful to point out
>the pitfalls in such implementation details.
I agree wholehartedly. I like OmniWeb, (though there are a few
bugs/"features" I'd like to change,) and the idea of having an "expire" time
isn't that bad, either. Even milk has a warning label on the box on when it
expires. But, how about a little advance warning, like, say, a week or a
month? How much more difficult would it have been to put a warning in that
said "This version will be disabled in N days, since there is almost
definitely a new version at URL://blah.blah/" so you can plan ahead, and
download the next version before the old one expires. (Or, draw the company's
attention to the fact that the version will expire, and there's no new
version out yet. ;-))
--
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North Dakota State U. Ass'n for Computing Machinery Chairperson <acm>
http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key \v/
From: mgais@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at (Mansuet Gaisbauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: [Wanted] Public domain X11R[45] Server for NextDimension !
Date: 05 Jan 1995 09:18:44 GMT
Organization: IICM, Graz University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MGAIS.95Jan5101844@pluto.tu-graz.ac.at>
Hi NeXT gurus out there!
I got a NeXTCube with a NeXTDimension graphics board running
NeXTStep 3.0. Now i am looking for a public domain X11R[45]
server, to use the cube as an X-terminal.
Does anyone know where to get one?
Thanks in advance
Mansuet
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From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: Re: HyperSense
Message-ID: <1995Jan4.142746.5824@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950104011820.19821D-100000@oneworld.wa.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 14:27:46 GMT
I have not built a real app with HyperSense yet, but I have
previously used HyperCard on Mac to construct a personal "desktop"
within and from which I ran almost everything. I've worked with
HyperSense enough to say that it's a substantial advance. It offers
many wonderful new tools for the developer: Browswers; any number of
separately programmable layers; tools for incorporating external
commands in Objective-C; the ability to assign scripts to things
drawn with a freehand tool. It still lacks a few things that
HyperCard has, but these are being added with each new release. If
you are interested in this kind of programming check it out. It's a
remarkable achievement.
"Charles W. Cooper II" <charles@oneworld.wa.com> writes
>
> Has anyone worked with this package? I downloaded the demo and it
looks
> very slick.
>
> Would like to see comments on performance, useability etc.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Archive Source for f2c?
Date: 5 Jan 1995 11:26:08 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3egl0g$c9b@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3eep6g$dp3@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
In article <3eep6g$dp3@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark
Powell) writes:
> Can some kind soul refer me to an archive site where I can download the
> latest version of f2c that will run on an HP running NEXTSTEP?
> WIthout having an HP FORTRAN compiler this would be the next best thing.
> Thanks!
> --
> Dr. Mark D. Powell
> Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
> NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
> Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
The AT&T site at ftp://netlib.att.com/netlib/f2c/ holds the latest source code
for the f2c compiler. Apparently GNU is also working on a Fortran compiler but
I guess it will still be a while. Besides, f2c has always worked just fine for
me...
--
Piotr Twarecki, M.Eng.
B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA <- no longer valid :-(
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From: tohno@inky.Mines.Colorado.EDU (OHNO TIM)
Subject: NXSpice on black hardware
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Message-ID: <1995Jan5.120646.24384@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 12:06:46 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
This may be a trivial point, but I am unable to use an editor in this
application. The edit command does not call up a text editor. How is
this set? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
Tim Ohno
Colorado School of Mines
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From: ronny@blackmaus.com (Ronny Bagdadi)
Subject: Epson Stylus Driver
Message-ID: <D1wr74.xp@blackmaus.com>
Sender: ronny@blackmaus.com (Ronny Bagdadi)
Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:09:03 GMT
Hello all,
Is there a driver or PPD for the new Epson Stylus printer? I saw it
featured in Wired; it has a 720dpi resolution and supposedly outputs
excellent color.
Please email me.
Thanks.
---
Ronny Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
ronny@blackmaus.com (NeXT mail expected!)
PGP key available on request.
The real cycle you are working on is yourself. The machine that appears
to be `out there' and the person that appears to be `in there' are not two
separate things. They grow towards Quality or fall away from Quality
together.
Robert Pirsig
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
From: vamparys@litnext1.epfl.ch (Franck Vamparys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New version of the InstantTeX for NextStep Intel available ?
Date: 3 Jan 1995 08:47:36 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Message-ID: <3eb2v8$1km@disunms.epfl.ch>
References: <3e8l86$97b@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <3e8l86$97b@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu> pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak
Chenkosol) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I am wondering if there is a new version of the InstantTex package
available
> for NextStep Intel. The old version that I have has expired. Does the
package
> make it to the commercial version ? Any info regarding the new version
of
> the package and how to obtain a copy is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Pitak
>
I have the same problem, that's really a bag news.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
Franck.
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IN Ecublens | Work : +41 21 693-6796 (NS ok)
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From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adding Fonts to NS
Date: 5 Jan 1995 15:44:54 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eh45m$hdl@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Well call me stupid!
I picked up a number of fonts for NeXTSTEP the other day, but I've never
run across any directions for installation. I took a quick search through the
manuals but didn't find anything.
Help!
I would like to have more than the standard set of fonts now that I have
OpenWrite! (Speaking of which, this is one awefully nice word processor!
I highly recommend it. Soon as it does Table of Contents and Indexes it'll
certainly do everything I want a word processor to do)
--
Hakuna Matata!
Tom
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From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica won't work!
Date: 5 Jan 1995 16:30:55 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eh6rv$lsp@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3ecfs3$du4@redstone.interpath.net>
Has anybody gotten Mathematica 2.0 (kernel 2.0, release 2.1) to work under
NextStep 3.3?
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Archive Source for f2c?
Date: 5 Jan 1995 16:50:47 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3eh817$jqu@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3eep6g$dp3@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
In article <3eep6g$dp3@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark
Powell) writes:
> Can some kind soul refer me to an archive site where I can download the
> latest version of f2c that will run on an HP running NEXTSTEP?
> WIthout having an HP FORTRAN compiler this would be the next best thing.
> Thanks!
ftp://ftp/nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/non-gui/gnu/f2c.bs.NIH.tar.gz
Soon there will be the 4xFAT (including SPARC) version ;-))
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: harrison@clark.net (Harrison Consulting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: wais indexing under NS/FIP 3.2
Date: 5 Jan 1995 19:49:10 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <3ehifm$9sk@clarknet.clark.net>
References: <3e18fu$fmh@nic.ott.hookup.net>
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Also hi all,
I have been trying the same under NS 3.2 for Motorola. If anyone
has the solution of how to properly butcher the WAIS distribution
please forward this information to me at: harrison@clark.net
Thanks a lot.
Scott Harrison
Richard Lacelle (r.lacelle@phoenix.ca) wrote:
: Hi All,
: I have been trying to compile freeWAIS3.0 under NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel
: without success. I have been getting several variable errors and unfound
: definitions(or something to that effect).
: I am trying to compile it to run with gopher2.1 from U of M. Has anyone
: gotten a WAIS indexer to run under NS/FIP? If so, which one was it and
: could you send me your makefile and/or a binary version.
: Thanks, A Lot
: Richard Lacelle
: Phoenix Systems Synectics, Inc.
: r.lacelle@phoenix.ca (NeXTMAIL Accepted)
--
- Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt.
- Just because I own the business doesn't mean I speak for it!
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Finger harrison@clark.net for PGP Public Key.
From: ghill@ix.netcom.com (Garrett Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PH #'s for Xanthus & Lighthouse
Date: 5 Jan 1995 19:09:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ehg65$big@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Hello-
I am in desperate need of the phone numbers for anthus & Lighthouse
I need to but Openwrite and Quantrix ASAP
Please email me the numbers or call (If you happen to be Sales!)
Garrett Hill
ghill@ix.necom.com
415.560.8186
While your at it if you have strong opinions one way or the other about
these products please feel free to share them.
Garrett
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Adding Fonts to NS
In-Reply-To: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com's message of 5 Jan 1995 15:44:54 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.95Jan5122519@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <3eh45m$hdl@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 20:25:19 GMT
Tom Gall writes:
Tom> Well call me stupid! I picked up a number of fonts for NeXTSTEP the
Tom> other day, but I've never run across any directions for installation. I
Tom> took a quick search through the manuals but didn't find anything.
/NextLibrary/Fonts:/LocalLibrary/Fonts:~/Library/Fonts
If the fonts isn't a NEXTSTEP font, there's a little more work involved.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
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From: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Subject: Re: 3.3 with Mux 1.5
Message-ID: <D1wMDE.qC@cicero.ping.de>
Sender: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <3eb0fb$p9@teletalk.teletalk.se>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:24:50 GMT
In article <3eb0fb$p9@teletalk.teletalk.se> teletalk.teletalk.se!dg (Dag
Gruneau) writes:
: I have used the excelklent serial driover Mux 1.5 for a long time
: with 3.2 getting news and mail over uucp. Suddenly it has stopped
: working or (something has) when I installed 3.3
:
: Has anybody else experienced this? and maybe someone has a solution.
I had some problems installing Mux with 3.3 so I tried the standard Serial
drivers which came with the upgrade.
They work fine with my 14400 Modem, no speed change.
Has anyone else made similar experiences ??
-dirk
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From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fonts & YASQ (Yet another stupid question)
Date: 5 Jan 1995 20:35:10 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ehl5u$m8q@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Hi all,
Thanks to everybody who has sent me mail on how to install fonts in NeXTSTEP.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! It's greatly appreciated....
And since I'm on a roll, I've another stupid question:
Is it possible (WITHOUT a floppy drive)
to get NS to save a large file over multiple smaller files???
(See here's my situation, I have a file on my NeXT here at work I need to
take home, but my cube doesn't have a floppy drive. So usually I just FTP the
file over to my 6000 and there, copy the file over to a floppy. Works great for
files less than 1.44 meg in size)
Any ideas or am I in the market for a MCCA? (What the hay it wouldn't be that
hard)
--
Hakuna Matata!
Tom
#include <std-disclaimer.h>
|o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o|
|o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" -Marvin Martian |o|
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From: Larry Gadallah <larry@unbc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone able to get GNU Smalltalk working on NS?
Date: 5 Jan 1995 21:34:44 GMT
Organization: University of Northern B.C.
Message-ID: <3eholk$h4v@unbc.edu>
I was trying to install GNU smalltalk-1.1.1 the other day and
I had some rather fundamental problems (apparently) due to
data type sizes and so on. I got warnings from cc to the effect
of:
mstinterp.c:837: warning: comparison is always 1 due to limited range of data type
mstinterp.c:855: warning: comparison is always 1 due to limited range of data type
mstinterp.c:872: warning: comparison is always 1 due to limited range of data type
The pertinent code from mstinterp.c is as follows:
Byte ival, ival2, ival3, *savedIP;
and the compiler complains at each statement of this form:
switch (ival2 >> 6) {
Looks like dividing an 8-bit number by 64 and checking for
a non-zero result to me. Shouldn't be a problem, even if it
is a signed 8-bit number.
Thanks in advance,
Larry Gadallah
larry@owrlakh.unbc.edu
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where to get a phone answering app?
Date: 6 Jan 1995 00:32:18 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3ei32i$rlg@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3eesl3$vj@salyko.cube.net>
In article <3eesl3$vj@salyko.cube.net> cmarq@cube.net (Christoph
Marquardt) writes:
> Axel Habermann (kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de) schrieb:
> > ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
> > /pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs/am.1.16.tar.gz
>
> BTW, does am work with 3.3 ?
It seems so, Jolly upgraded to 3.3 some days ago, and it's still
working...
--
Marc Guenther
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From: kmilne@fordyn (Kevin Milne)
Subject: Stats package
Message-ID: <D1yGyu.G3F@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:25:35 GMT
I'm looking for a good stats package for the NeXT. Any recommendations?
Thanks
Kevin Milne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: 3.3 with Mux 1.5
Message-ID: <D1xwCs.Ky@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us
References: <3eb0fb$p9@teletalk.teletalk.se> <1995Jan4.211907.22750@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 15:58:04 GMT
A reply to myself, (yipes) am I so pathetic that the only conversation I can
have is with myself? :-) :-)
mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) writes:
>teletalk.teletalk.se!dg (Dag Gruneau) writes:
>>I have used the excelklent serial driover Mux 1.5 for a long time
>>with 3.2 getting news and mail over uucp. Suddenly it has stopped
>>working or (something has) when I installed 3.3
>>
>>Has anybody else experienced this? and maybe someone has a solution.
>I posted, before the Christmas season, in comp.sys.next.bugs about this. I
>am *still* waiting for NeXT to deliver my copy of NS3.3 to start working on
>this problem (Even though my credit card has been `affected' by the bill for
>the upgrade ...)
I now have it, all I needed was say the above, and FedEx was at my door, nice
work NeXT! :-) :-)
>I can only hope that I can solve this problem quickly upon the arrival of the
>CD.
12 hours of operation, and no problems (yet)! I hate intermittent problems
(My configuration is COM1&COM2 handled by SerialPorts, and a Digiboard4 port
card, I use the Digiboard for my modem pool). I know that in 15 minutes, I
will see that I spoke too soon ...
One note, however, I have been unable to coerce the 3.3 SerialPorts driver to
just do one port (for the serial mouse), hopefully allowing Mux to have access
to the COM2 port. Thus I changed my Configuration such that COM1&COM2 (as noted
above) are handled by the SerialPorts driver. I suspect the problem is that
before, in NS3.2, if any overlapping resources were taken, the kernel would
continue, but in NS3.3, if an overlapping resource exists, it will, not load the
offending driver (in my case, I *had* Mux0 take on COM2).
>The fix *might* be (and you perform this at your own risk *please*, I have no
>way of knowing if this will work, nor will I take any responsibility for
>damage resulting from this suggestion, but look forward to someone saying it
>helps) for the moment to copy the NS3.2 /mach_kernel file into the system for
>the interim (yuck).
Don't do this, I tried it, the upgraded NS3.3 drivers call access points in the
Kernel that did not exist in NS3.2.
Bonne Annee -- Mark Salyzyn
From: jlandwehr@NeXT.COM (John Landwehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:31:58 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com>
In order to work around a hardware problem involving the Intel 824x0 PCI
host-bus chip, the Intel824X0 PCI driver supplied with NEXTSTEP version 3.3
disables Write-Posting--a performance feature--in this controller chip.
Without this workaround, users of bus-mastering drivers, including PCI SCSI
and ethernet drivers, would experience intermittent system crashes with
possible resulting data corruption. Note that this is a problem with the
controller chip, not with NEXTSTEP. Version 3.3 of NEXTSTEP simply implements
a workaround to this operating-system independent hardware problem.
The tradeoff for this increased robustness is lower performance than would be
possible if write-posting could be safely enabled. Given the potential for
data loss which exists with this chip, NeXT strongly recommends that users of
PCI bus mastering devices accept the lower performance this workaround causes.
Though it is possible to achieve higher performance even for bus-mastering
devices by disabling the Intel824X0 driver, this is not a recommended or
supported system configuration because of the increased risk of system crashes
and data loss.
If the PCI bus is only being used for video, however, and no PCI bus-mastering
devices are installed, NeXT knows of no adverse impact which will result from
removing the Intel824x0 driver, and substantially improved video performance
may result. However, note that use of PCI devices with this driver disabled
is not supported even for non bus-mastering devices and, if done, is at your
own risk. In addition, if you chose to disable the Intel824x0 driver, you
must insure that if PCI bus-mastering devices are later installed in the
system the Intel824x0 driver will be re-enabled at that time or an increased
risk of data corruption will result.
The PCI chipset bug only occurs in the A0 stepping of the Intel 824x0 series
of chipset. This bug was corrected in the A1 stepping of the chip which went
into production around September of '94. Unfortunately, this chip is usually
soldered directly to the motherboard; therefore, you should contact your PC
vendor if you require servicing.
Knowledge of the fixed A1 stepping came too late for NeXT to respond before
shipping 3.3. Fortunately, Intel provided an identification register that
allows software to determine which step of the chip is present. The
Intel824x0 driver is being modified to determine the stepping and only disable
write posting if an A0 chip is found. If your system contains an A1 or later
stepping, the driver will not disable write-posting (fast performance). This
updated driver has been completed, and will be posted to NEXTANSWERS upon
completion of testing.
John Landwehr
NEXTSTEP 3.3 Release Manager
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes)
Subject: Q: 3.3 and large files on Mac floppies??
Message-ID: <1995Jan6.014739.251@kira.net.netcom.com>
Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
Organization: No organization at this time.
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:47:39 GMT
In 3.2, NS has problems formatting some HD diskettes, and would sometimes
damage large files when copied onto Mac floppies (at least on PLI disk
drives).
Can anyone who has seen this before report whether this is still true for
3.3?
(does the console still report overrunning the 'port' when formatting NS
floppies (I think that was the format. Maybe Mac) floppies)
Thanks for any info.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes)
Subject: Q: Odd mouse problems still in 3.3?
Message-ID: <1995Jan6.015604.329@kira.net.netcom.com>
Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
Organization: No organization at this time.
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:56:04 GMT
There were two strange behaviors with the mouse in the Workspace Manager I
ran into regularly on NeXTSTEP 3.2 (both black and white), and while I've
seen others with them on one occasion, I've never seen any one mention them
on the net.
IF you have seen them before, and you have NOT seen them under 3.3, I'd love
to know! (certainly, it would be another reason to consider upgrading).
Problem 1: For unknown reasons, in the list view when renaming a file,
sometimes the highlighted file name 'field' will remain on the screen (and
remain editable) even if you go and edit another file's name. I've only
ever seen this when I go to do another file-system operation before
finishing editing this file's name, but I can't reproduce it on demand in
any case.
Problem 2: More obscure, but like the other seems tied to doing lots of
'fast' work in the workspace manager. In the icon view, sometimes the WM
seems to 'fall behind' in its processing of mouse clicks. So, suddenly,
your clicks seem to have no effect, then eventually when you make click N,
WM processes click N-3 (or something like that) assuming a 'drag' operation
since the lack click point as well. Generally I can get out of this with
several clicks in menu to switch to another view and back. Sadly, I don't
know how to reproduce it on demand either.
(is there a list anywhere of ALL the reported bugs that NeXT says they've
fixed in 3.3?)
Thanks!
david john
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: razor@net23.com (Razor)
Subject: PROBS WITH SERIAL PORT AND CANNON BJC-600E
Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News)
Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 02:51:11 GMT
Message-ID: <D1yqLD.9qv@news2.new-york.net>
Hey all..
I recently got a cannon bjc-600e color inkjet printer. I immediately
downloaded and installed DOTS unlicensed. It printed fine, except with a line
through everything. Then I bought a color license from DOTS and installed it.
However, on turning my INTEL NS 3.2 System off an then back on (hard reset)
It would no longer recognize pp0 when booting. It said IO_Parralel_Port not
found. When I soft rebooted it found it, but now I can't print at all
anymore... Anyone have any idea what the problem is? Please email replies to
razor@net23.com
Thanks
--
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Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com"
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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb!
Date: 6 Jan 1995 03:51:25 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <3eient$bn@news.cerf.net>
References: <3ea5ra$79l@core.symnet.net>
In article <3ea5ra$79l@core.symnet.net> dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
writes:
> Metrosuction is MAB too. And doesn't work anyways.
How is it that it "doesn't work anyways"?
--
Gordon Van Huizen
Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pchien@Trimark.com
Subject: [Q: ]News browsing in OmniWeb ?
Message-ID: <1995Jan5.181428.8756@trimark.com>
Keywords: OmniWeb, News
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:14:28 GMT
Hello everyone, I am new to HTML, today I am trying to create a anchor to
news use '<a href="news:comp.sys.next.announce">NeXT announce' and I can
get the article summary, but when I click on one I got a message:
'<H1>News error</H1> No article by message-id
<3efrar$2lq@digifix.digifix.com>, sorry. '
Can someone help me ??
Thank you very much.
--
--
Chao-Ping Chien, DBA
Trimark Inv. Mgmt Inc.
Canada
pchien@trimark.com
pchien@tor.hookup.net
From: blaknite@escape.com (BlakNight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adaptec 6360 SCSI
Date: 31 Dec 1994 21:48:42 GMT
Organization: Escape Internet Access (212-888-8212).
Message-ID: <3e4jjr$ki@beyond.escape.com>
Hi there. I am attempting to install NeXTStep 3.2 FIP on my system. I
am using an Adaptec 6360 SCSI chip for my CD-ROM drive, and an IDE
interface for my hard disk. The default drivers only support the Adaptec
1542 board, but I have found the .pkg file on the NeXT WWW site for the
drivers for the 6360. Here's the problem: I have no way of getting
those driver on a disk to use during installation! To format a disk and
copy the driver requires a computer running NeXTStep. What I'm asking is
this: Is there any way for me to get a disk image of the driver disk
over the net and unpack it using the (ugh) DOS RAWRITE.EXE software? If
anyone can help me with this, I'd greatly appreciate it. What I'm trying
to avoid here is having NeXT send me the disk, which would no doubt take
weeks. Thanks in advance!
Noah
From: gshaw@starbase1.gpl.com (George Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do you kill the "Get new mail" button in Mail.app?
Date: 6 Jan 1995 11:43:17 GMT
Message-ID: <3ejacl$22j@errigle.gpl.net>
References: <sb-3012942043290001@ip-vanc-17.teleport.com>
In article <sb-3012942043290001@ip-vanc-17.teleport.com> sb@teleport.com
(Jim Sims) writes:
> I tried out PopOver.app and I think that is when this button appeared.
>
> I've removed PopOver but the button stays, and I cannot get uucp mail
from
> /usr/spool/.
>
>
> Any suggestions? Thanks
I think you may have your mail prefs set to manual retreve, try auto and
it should work..
--
George Shaw (Managing Director)
GENESIS PROJECT Ltd
International Trade Centre Belfast "INTERPOINT"
20-24 York Street
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jeffn@cal.DCS-Systems.COM (Jeff Nantais)
Subject: OmniWeb Proxy ?
Message-ID: <1995Jan5.185728.25658@cal.DCS-Systems.COM>
Sender: usenet@cal.DCS-Systems.COM
Organization: DCS Systems (Alberta) Ltd.
References: <3disrn$nim@yucca.omnigroup.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:57:28 GMT
Does anybody know wherer I can get a Proxy Agent?
Thanks,
Jeff E.Nantais
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Proxy ?
Date: 6 Jan 1995 14:08:21 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3ejisl$nfd@metro.atlanta.com>
References: <1995Jan5.185728.25658@cal.DCS-Systems.COM>
In article <1995Jan5.185728.25658@cal.DCS-Systems.COM>
jeffn@cal.DCS-Systems.COM (Jeff Nantais) writes:
> Does anybody know wherer I can get a Proxy Agent?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff E.Nantais
I would also like information on this.
thanks
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Message-ID: <D1zMCD.oM@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <D1u9L9.10J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> <3ebvvk$d51@xexos.xexos.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:17:01 GMT
mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes:
>In article <D1u9L9.10J@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim
>Pugh) writes:
>> While you are "bugging NeXT" about a fix for video performance, how about
>> a fix for EDIT Print -- a single page file always prints an enpty second
>> page. It has been this way for far too long IMHO.
>> --Tim
>> --
>Not for me it doesn't seems to work fine. I only see this when I'm in the US,
>using Letter sized paper, and I have my prefs set to A4 - ie, what size do you
>have your paper setup to be?
>--
>Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
>Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
>London mark@xexos.com
I have received several mail messages suggesting either my paper size
selection is set incorrectly or that it only happens with RTF files
or perhaps I have something fouled up in Netinfo. Here is the scenario:
(1) I did a complete install of NS3.3, not a upgrade. This should
address the Netinfo suggestion.
(2) I rechecked my paper size selector. It is set to LTR, not A4.
(3) I created a four line doc in ascii mode. It produced a two
page output.
(4) I changed the doc to RTF. It also produced a two page output.
(5) By setting the Printer Pannel From=1, To=1; I get a single
page output.
(6) Multi-page documents pose no problem.
(7) I had the same problem with NS3.2
Since I seem to be one of only a few who have experience this problem,
I have to assume it is a hardware related problem. Thanks for you hlep.
--Tim
--
Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services
tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
|Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dirk@obelix.ping.de (Dirk Westermann)
Subject: Re: NXFax Help
Message-ID: <D1xI7H.6u@obelix.ping.de>
Sender: dirk@obelix.ping.de (Dirk Westermann)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <3efse3$d56@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:52:28 GMT
In article <3efse3$d56@mark.ucdavis.edu> pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat
Martin) writes:
> I installed NXFax and it does not work--the NXFax monitor says
> "Looking for Driver"--the installation process said that installation
> was sucessful. I usually use my modem with kermit--is this whwere the
> problem lies? thanks in advance
> pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu
>
Hi Pat,
I had the same problem like you have.First I took a Creatix modem and
there was the same text in the monitor of NxFax. Then I take another
modem, witch is compatible with the Intel 144 modem, and NxFax run.
Ciao Dirk
From: michael@eversoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Oracle 6 and NS 3.3 (Motorola)
Date: 6 Jan 1995 14:38:59 GMT
Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc 214/705-2901, login info
Message-ID: <3ejkm3$jac@feenix.metronet.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: oracle, 3.3
Distibution: world
Page 1 of the 3.3 Release Notes Addendum For Intel Processors and NeXT
Computers states:
"Don't upgrade any NeXT computer that must run an oracle6 server to
Release 3.3. You can't install oracle6 on a NeXT computer that's
running Release 3.3."
Does this mean one can't upgrade a machine that is already functioning
as a Oracle server or does this merely apply to new Oracle
installations?
Thanks,
---
Michael S. Peacock Everest Software Corp.
michael@eversoft.com Ph. 214-437-7631
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Proxy ?
Message-ID: <D1zn9C.I7o@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <1995Jan5.185728.25658@cal.DCS-Systems.COM> <3ejisl$nfd@metro.atlanta.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:36:48 GMT
: > Does anybody know wherer I can get a Proxy Agent?
: >
: I would also like information on this.
Three Options (this is from my experience using proxies on other systems, but
the idea is the same)
a) Get the Trusted Information Systems Firewall Toolkit (TIS-FWTK). It has
a ton of utilities, along with a web proxy (http-gw). Compile this, install
it on your firewall and run with it. WOrks very well from my experience.
b) Get the CERN httpd server. It has a configuration option that lets
it run in proxy mode. Performance is good- cause it can/does caching of
requests- but configuration can be a little tricky. Personally I like
option a) better because its a nice, neat little package. CERN is a
whopping big chunk of code that could cause HUGE problems on your firewall
if it isn't configured properly. That's why I don't use it (but then
again, I'm paid to be paranoid!!!).
c) Get NCSA httpd 1.3 and write your own proxy agent using the CGI bin
interface (probably not an option).
I've had no problems whatsoever with the TIS proxy, and mixed sucess
with the cern (but again I've never tried omni with it).
Now if the good folks at Omni would only add Socks proxy support (the
direction a LOT of sites are heading - eg Netscape supports it) life would
be really sweet.......
Feel free to contact me for any other questions.
later
j
************************************
Jason Bright
Ingenia Communications Corporation
jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca
************************************
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 6 Jan 1995 17:17:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com>
Thanks to John Landwehr for the explanation of the PCI problem under
NS. But this begs the question: why does this seem to be a problem under
NS, but doesn't seem to be such a major problem (if even a problem at all)
under Windows, NT, OS/2, SCO UNIX, UnixWare, Solaris/x86, etc., etc.?
Although I have absolutely no knowledge about drivers under any OS,
this *feels* like a situation in which driver writers for other OS's have
dealt with this problem in a way that hasn't made such a major impact on
performance. Is there a raging debate in the newsgroups for other OS's
that use PCI about why the PCI performance is so bad? I certainly haven't
heard about this problem until now, but then I'm probably out of touch.
The PC world is certainly anarchy, but NeXT must have known this
before committing to it. Driver Kit sounds like a reasonable approach to
dealing with the problem of writing drivers quickly, but it doesn't seem
to be working as well as expected. Is the Objective-C overhead just too
great for device drivers where performance should be a major concern?
Should Driver Kit have been written in (cough) C++? Is Driver Kit like
DBKit: a reasonable first pass in which lots will be learned, but which
will have to be scrapped and rewritten in order to work well?
I'm hearing more and more impatience with NS/FIP from new users and
developers who had great hope, but the hope is fading fast. It will be 2
years old in May and major wrinkles still seem to exist.
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Japanese word processing
Date: 6 Jan 1995 17:41:39 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ejvcj$fam@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Is there a wordprocessor for the NeXT that allows for typesetting of
japanese characters ? Any suggestions are welcome.
--
Andreas Obst
Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics
Virginia Tech
obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu
From: ACI_INC@news.delphi.com (ACI_INC@DELPHI.COM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 6 Jan 1995 13:19:31 -0500
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Message-ID: <3ek1jj$t1@news2.delphi.com>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
> Although I have absolutely no knowledge about drivers under any OS,
>this *feels* like a situation in which driver writers for other OS's have
>dealt with this problem in a way that hasn't made such a major impact on
>performance.
Not necessarily! NEXTSTEP is one of the few (if not only) that first
draws into memory and then dumps it onto the video card when drawing.
Let's also not forget that most NEXTSTEP users use 16bits/pixel. Mix this
in your grinder, and you will notice that in general NEXTSTEP uses 2 to 3
time the throughput of other OS's during video performence. Hence, when
there is a bottleneck in the PCI bus, NEXTSTEP will be hit the hardest.
>that use PCI about why the PCI performance is so bad? I certainly haven't
>heard about this problem until now, but then I'm probably out of touch.
You are, and a good reason to stay objective when bashing NEXTSTEP!!!
>Should Driver Kit have been written in (cough) C++? Is Driver Kit like
>DBKit: a reasonable first pass in which lots will be learned, but which
>will have to be scrapped and rewritten in order to work well?
> I'm hearing more and more impatience with NS/FIP from new users and
>developers who had great hope, but the hope is fading fast. It will be 2
>years old in May and major wrinkles still seem to exist.
The hope may be fading, but that is not due to the drivers. It is
important to point out that all the NeXT driver criticism in the last 2
week were about the PCI video card's poor performence, and today we read
about a PCI chip bug that causes this problem. All I have to say to the
folks that criticised NeXT and expecially Talus, "Sorry folks, but you
were dead wrong!!!"
Karlheinz
>---
>Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
>NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting
>NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
>USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: jbragin@jupiter.uucp (joe bragin 04-22-92)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Info on scanning software
Date: 6 Jan 1995 19:22:10 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <3ek592$pfa@nic-nac.CSU.net>
I would appreciate any info on scanning software to
use with the HP ScanJet IIcx.
Thanks.
J. Bragin
From: eric@pisces (Eric Norum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 6 Jan 1995 19:57:20 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ek7b0$6eu@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
This almost certainly belongs in comp.sys.next.advocacy, but....
Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote:
: The PC world is certainly anarchy, but NeXT must have known this
: before committing to it. Driver Kit sounds like a reasonable approach to
: dealing with the problem of writing drivers quickly, but it doesn't seem
: to be working as well as expected. Is the Objective-C overhead just too
: great for device drivers where performance should be a major concern?
: Should Driver Kit have been written in (cough) C++? Is Driver Kit like
: DBKit: a reasonable first pass in which lots will be learned, but which
: will have to be scrapped and rewritten in order to work well?
I'd like to add a data point to this discussion. I wrote my first UNIX
device driver in 1978 (UNIX V6). Since then I've written drivers for
UNIX V7, BSD 4.2, Ultrix and finally NEXTSTEP/FIP. I can state that
writing the NEXTSTEP driver was by far the most pleasant experience of
the bunch. This even though the underlying hardware on the PC is pathetic
(especially the DMA) compared to the PDP-11 and VAX.
Among the pleasures provided by NEXTSTEP:
+ Multiple threads
+ Object oriented allowing use of existing DriverKit methods
+ Driver Debugging Module
+ Dynamic loading
And the performance of my driver is fine, too.
--
Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca
Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory
University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tsch@iphase.com (Thomas Tschetter)
Subject: hp scanjet driver
Message-ID: <D1ztqE.J6E@vitec.com>
Sender: usenet@vitec.com
Organization: Interphase, Dallas TX
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 16:56:38 GMT
Does anyonw out there have a driver for the HP scanjet IIc for a Black
NeXT (m68k). I just aquired a used scanjet with no documentation.
Any pointers on getting it to work with my NeXT would be aprreciated.
---
===============================================================================
Thomas J. Tschetter II
tsch@vitec.com
VITec, a Division of Connectware, an AMP Company (long enough?)
===============================================================================
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Do you want SoftPC 4.0 (protected mode) for m68k/HP NEXTSTEP?
Date: 6 Jan 1995 23:12:31 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3ekiov$p04@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: SoftPC,m68k,HP,NEXTSTEP
Hello all,
I am compiling a list of users of SoftPC for m68k (and HP)
hardware running NEXTSTEP who want to be able to run SoftPC 4.0 (protected
mode). Insignia says that the market is a dead-end for black and too
young for HP. So I want to see if there are enough of us out here that may
give Insignia a reason to make the port. They are working on protected
mode for the other Unix OS's and Mac and it should not be to hard to get
it moved from white NS to black NS (and HP). Please email me your name
organization and upper bound for price that you will consider for the
product and the number of licenses you need. I will forward this info to
the marketing manager here in the US. If you are behind some kind of
firewall please find some way to get the info to me. I think it is best
not to flood the News with this so send the info to me. I will respect
everybody's privacy. I will send the list to Insignia in two weeks.
Alan
PS. recruit a friend!
------Format--------
Name Org. Price/unit. Units/Black Units/HP
A. Barhorst Texas Tech U. $200 US 1 1
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Edit printer problem (was Re: 3.3 (poor video performance))
Date: 6 Jan 1995 21:11:02 GMT
Organization: I'm not really all that organized.
Message-ID: <3ekbl6$s99@bunyan.covenant.edu>
References: <D1zMCD.oM@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
In article <D1zMCD.oM@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim
Pugh) writes:
[Old stuff deleted]
> I have received several mail messages suggesting either my paper size
> selection is set incorrectly or that it only happens with RTF files
> or perhaps I have something fouled up in Netinfo. Here is the scenario:
> (1) I did a complete install of NS3.3, not a upgrade. This should
> address the Netinfo suggestion.
> (2) I rechecked my paper size selector. It is set to LTR, not A4.
> (3) I created a four line doc in ascii mode. It produced a two
> page output.
> (4) I changed the doc to RTF. It also produced a two page output.
> (5) By setting the Printer Pannel From=1, To=1; I get a single
> page output.
> (6) Multi-page documents pose no problem.
> (7) I had the same problem with NS3.2
> Since I seem to be one of only a few who have experience this problem,
> I have to assume it is a hardware related problem. Thanks for you hlep.
> --Tim
> --
> Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services
> tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
> |Laurel, MD 20708-1355
[Collapsed so NewsGrazer will let me post]
I couldn't resist trying this, especially since
I am having printer problems, so sample pages
to print are needed anyway. :-)
I did just what you said: opened Edit.app, made
sure the settings were on Letter size (not LTR
but Letter in my version) and ascii, created a
four line file, and printed it. I got only one
page. Indeed, there must be more to the story...
Cheers,
Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Message-ID: <1995Jan6.061712.17520@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907)
References: <3eagkf$kc5@news1.best.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 06:17:12 GMT
In article <3eagkf$kc5@news1.best.com> kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth Dyke)
writes:
> In article <schwettD1su4v.D0J@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com writes:
> > >One would think that 32-bit deep color windows would be the easiest to
> > >drag around as (I hope) they're stored in RAM in the same format that the
> > >graphics cards all use.
> >
> > Actually, I have come to believe that the problem is with translating from
> > one color depth to another. If you open a 32 bit window, like a WetPaint
> > document, it drags very smoothly. Open a 16 bit windows in 32 bit, and it
> > lags very sadly.
>
> I think you might have nailed it. I just tried dragging around a 32-bit
> jpeg file in a window approximately the same size as my Mail folder and it's
> significantly faster. Dragging the Mail folder window really dogs. It
> looks like the translation that really got broken was the 12-bit to 24-bit
> because shell windows and such still drag quickly. I suppose I could try to
> see how well 8-bit grayscale windows drag around. [I just tried it and
> eight-bit still flies right along].
>
> > The workspace uses 12/16 bit icons, doesn't it?
> >
> > In any case, you can help things a bit by using a color depth preferences
> > dealie and setting stuff to 8 bit, if you don't always need color. It
helps,
> > but I'm still going to trash NeXTStep unless NeXT fixes this.... and soon!
>
> Well, I like NEXTSTEP too much to trash it over this little annoyance, but
> I do think a bug report is in order.
>
> > Everybody who has this problem, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BUG NEXT. They need
to
> > know that it's not just a fluke.
>
> Agreed.
>
> -Ken
> (Otherwise an extremely happy camper with 3.3.)
>
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Actually I think it's the nonretained and retained windows that seem to move
butt slow. Buffered windows zip along quite well...
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Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Printer smudge problems
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 6 Jan 1995 23:54:49 GMT
Organization: I'm not really all that organized.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ekl89$3tr@bunyan.covenant.edu>
References: <3ekc1m$s9d@bunyan.covenant.edu>
In article <3ekc1m$s9d@bunyan.covenant.edu> petcher@moriah.covenant.edu
(Donald N. Petcher) writes:
[Question about printer deleted]
Oops, this should have been in ...hardware of course. I'll move it there,
and please steer responses thataway....
--Don
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Printer smudge problems
Date: 6 Jan 1995 21:17:42 GMT
Organization: I'm not really all that organized.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ekc1m$s9d@bunyan.covenant.edu>
All of a sudden my (NeXT) printer started including a predictable smudge
streak on every sheet. About a fourth of the way down there are some
pretty distinct horizontal smudge lines, and about the right third of the
paper has some noticable smudge streaks from top to bottom. Also depending
on what is printed there are smudges which are very faint letters. Is this
a printer problem or a cartridge problem?
A related question: is there some standard maintenance I should be
performing on this printer? I have not done anything to it since I bought
it (new) over a year and a half ago, and as I recall there were no manuals
included with the printer to discuss maintenance. However, I have
discovered a small brush inside the printer that I assume should be used
for something...
Cheers,
Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Message-ID: <schwettD20K3H.KHq@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 02:26:04 GMT
jlandwehr@NeXT.COM (John Landwehr) writes:
>If the PCI bus is only being used for video, however, and no PCI bus-mastering
>devices are installed, NeXT knows of no adverse impact which will result from
>removing the Intel824x0 driver, and substantially improved video performance
>may result....
*MAY* result. I repeat, *MAY* result. In my case, (and in at least one
other that I know of first hand) it had NO EFFECT AT ALL.
I told NeXT about this, but have yet to get a reply. Hello?
...
>John Landwehr
>NEXTSTEP 3.3 Release Manager
Mark Schwettmann
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From: jonesc@tsunami.worldaccess.com (Cory Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Date: 6 Jan 1995 15:56:44 GMT
Organization: World Access Network
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3ejp7s$c1a@vortex.worldaccess.com>
References: <D1zMCD.oM@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Here are my results with removing the Intel824X0 PCI Host Bridge driver.
I have an Intel (Batman's Revenge I think) motherboard 60MHz. It has a
#9GXE64Pro 4MB PCI video card. I'm running at 1152x864 resolution 32-bit
color (RGB 888).
With the Intel824X0 driver installed I got the following video benchmarks:
NW Bench - V/V: 57 D/V: 18
NXFactor (NXBench): about 1.0 (window drag: 0.2)
After removing the Intel824X0 driver:
NW Bench - V/V: 57 D/V: 6 (went down...)
NXFactor (NXBench): 1.55 (window drag 0.67) *all* areas of NXFactor
increased
Now that the 824X0 driver is gone, video performance has increased
dramatically! Windows drag much much faster (as expected by the 0.2 to
0.67 increase in NXBench window). NXFactor shows improvement in all the
areas it tests. Why doesn't NW Bench show any improvement? I don't
know...
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From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Computer Modern Postscript fonts
Date: 07 Jan 1995 03:41:26 GMT
Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SHIVERS.95Jan6224126@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
I while ago I saw a post go by describing how to get Postscript versions
of the CM fonts, for free off of some Net server (i.e., not the commercial
Blue Sky ones). But I can't find it in my mailboxes. Can someone tell me
how to do it/where to get them?
-Olin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae)
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Message-ID: <Jan7.040815.32497@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 04:08:15 GMT
References: <schwettD20K3H.KHq@netcom.com>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada
In article <schwettD20K3H.KHq@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com writes:
> jlandwehr@NeXT.COM (John Landwehr) writes:
>
> >If the PCI bus is only being used for video, however, and no PCI
> >bus-mastering devices are installed, NeXT knows of no adverse impact
> >which will result from removing the Intel824x0 driver, and
> >substantially improved video performance may result....
>
> *MAY* result. I repeat, *MAY* result. In my case, (and in at least one
> other that I know of first hand) it had NO EFFECT AT ALL.
>
> I told NeXT about this, but have yet to get a reply. Hello?
> ...
This is a *total* guess, but is it possible the hardware vendor
somehow already disabled (or never implemented?) write-posting on your
machine? I have no idea if its implementation is optional, from a
hardware perspective.
--
-Andrew
macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca
home page: "http://geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/current_projects.html"
From: teletalk.teletalk.se!dg (Dag Gruneau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 with Mux 1.5
Date: 6 Jan 1995 00:43:57 GMT
Organization: TeleTalk AB, Stockholm, Sweden
Message-ID: <3ei3od$m9@teletalk.teletalk.se>
References: <D1wMDE.qC@cicero.ping.de>
In article <D1wMDE.qC@cicero.ping.de> dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
writes:
> I had some problems installing Mux with 3.3 so I tried the standard
Serial
> drivers which came with the upgrade.
> They work fine with my 14400 Modem, no speed change.
>
> Has anyone else made similar experiences ??
>
> -dirk
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> * Dirk Olmes NeXT-Club Schwerte, Germany *
> * dirk@cicero.ping.de (NeXT-Mail please) *
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On lower speeds they seem to work approximately the same, but with
a 28800 I am getting 2600 kbytes/sec with Mux and with the NeXt
driver I get data overrun. NeXT is aware of that, I think I saw
a note that a new faster serial driver will be available Q1 95.
Seems that the problem only arises at higher speeds.
/Dag
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From: kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth Dyke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Date: 7 Jan 1995 09:59:54 GMT
Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3elomq$8b2@news1.best.com>
References: <1995Jan6.061712.17520@bMD.com>
Keywords: Video speed, buffered vs. retained vs. depth
In article <1995Jan6.061712.17520@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes:
> In article <3eagkf$kc5@news1.best.com> kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth
Dyke)
> writes:
> >
> > I think you might have nailed it. I just tried dragging around a 32-bit
> > jpeg file in a window approximately the same size as my Mail folder and
it's
> > significantly faster. Dragging the Mail folder window really dogs. It
> > looks like the translation that really got broken was the 12-bit to 24-bit
> > because shell windows and such still drag quickly. I suppose I could try
to
> > see how well 8-bit grayscale windows drag around. [I just tried it and
> > eight-bit still flies right along].
> >
> [other stuff deleted]
>
> Actually I think it's the nonretained and retained windows that seem to move
> butt slow. Buffered windows zip along quite well...
Well, just for grins I wrote a program that opens up a window of anywhere from
2-bit grayscale up to 32-bit RGB, both retained and buffered. Window dragging
speed seemed to go something like this: (I have a 32-bit display, Diamond
Stealth 64 VLB).
Window Depth: RETAINED BUFFERED
2-bit gray Slow Fast
8-bit gray Slow Fast
16-bit RGB Slow Slow
32-bit RGB Slow Fast
What's wrong with this picture? ;)
-Ken
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From: rjones@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ry Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Parrot Software for NeXT
Date: 7 Jan 1995 10:19:52 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular
Message-ID: <3elps8$t02@news.halcyon.com>
I am looking for any expertise in this software. We are using it for
some software testing and really need it to work. The problem seems to
be it gets to the middle of the 3rd or 4th segment in a chain then
hangs... you can still manipulate the machines and the like, but the
software does not go any further.
Also, we need to compensate for differing screen resolutions. We have
machines at 800*600, 1024*768, and 1280*1024. Is there a tool (please,
god, please) like MS Test where you can attach to objects and events
instead of pixel positions and bitmaps?
Thanks so much,
Ry Jones
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From: fischer@mango (Michael Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .NeXTdefaults.L
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 7 Jan 1995 03:56:33 GMT
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-8285
Message-ID: <3el3dh$cqu@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <3eehab$737@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Bernhard Mayr (bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
: I think that this has to something with the "~/.NeXTdefaults.L"-file where
: the old path still can be found. But whenever I try to correct the path in
: ".NeXTdefaults.L" nothing works at all. I could however remove the whole
: ".NeXTdefaults.L", but I do not like this, as I have a very well
: configured account.
: Is there any possibility to erase all memory pointing to the old path
: without erasing ".NeXTdefaults.L"? I like the cassandra.app a lot and
: would therefore like to use it again!
Use dread to find the entry with the old path, then use dwrite to
update it or dremove to eliminate it altogether.
==================================================
| Michael Fischer <fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu> |
==================================================
From: you@somehost.somedomain (Your Name Here)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica
Date: 7 Jan 1995 15:41:11 GMT
Organization: Your Organization
Message-ID: <3emcmn$mg3@paladin.american.edu>
Could someone explain something for me? I want to purchase an educational
version of Mathematica. For Windows and Mac the price is about $100.
For NeXT it is about $1000. What's the buzz?
William
From: nigelc@drake.bt.co.uk(Nigel Champion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FLI Player
Date: 6 Jan 1995 10:05:14 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
Message-ID: <3ej4kq$akq@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anybody know where I can find the source or version of a FLI/FLC
player that will run on HPPA ??
Many thanks
Nigel
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From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Computer Modern Postscript fonts
Date: 7 Jan 1995 16:41:12 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3emg78$irf@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <SHIVERS.95Jan6224126@lewis.lcs.mit.edu>
Olin Shivers (shivers@lcs.mit.edu) wrote:
: I while ago I saw a post go by describing how to get Postscript versions
: of the CM fonts, for free off of some Net server (i.e., not the commercial
: Blue Sky ones).
Check your nearest CTAN archive (this will be ftp.shsu.edu in your case).
Nowadays you are looking for BaKoMa fonts. :-)
--mj
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Real 3.3 Mail shortcomings? (Handling Email addresses)
Message-ID: <D1yDvB.p3@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
References: <SHESS.95Jan4170520@icicle.winternet.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 22:16:23 GMT
Hi all!
Well formating might be a problem for some people...but I have one that I
guess NeXTs Mail 3.3 still hasn't solved.
It is sad that NeXT decided to create a provat format for handling mail
addresses inside the Mail.app. Well they could have used the general
.addresses stuff that is a lot more flexible anyway...any this would have
made it (the . addresses) more then just a hacked down demo inspector that
serves the FAX panel....
So besides the fack that it is quite stupid to dublicate the work of
keeping addresses in sync it is even more sad that the propriaty format of
Mails addresses is not able to store a list of accepted mail format for a
certain address !!
What about sending a mail...and receiving it back with the typical text
...blah..blah..bla nice to see you writing me..but I can't unpack that
stuff...(have no NeXTmail, no MIME etc..pp)
1. Lets add three checkboxes to the addresses panel (ASCII, NeXT, MIME)
2. Add another datafield to Mails internal storage an remember those
settings.
This would allow Mail to pop up a message with lets say:
"Sending MIME encodeed mail to "..." Receiver might not be able to read
it. [Cancel],[Deliver anyway]"
Doesn't this make sense ?
Well maybe the Eloquent guys can add support for .addresses and mail
format preferences.
As far as I remember there was a PD-mail app that does use the .addresses
files.
Aloha
Tomi
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: Re: Oracle 6 and NS 3.3 (Motorola)
Message-ID: <1995Jan7.175918.1141@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907)
References: <3ejkm3$jac@feenix.metronet.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:59:18 GMT
In article <3ejkm3$jac@feenix.metronet.com> michael@eversoft.com writes:
> Page 1 of the 3.3 Release Notes Addendum For Intel Processors and NeXT
> Computers states:
>
> "Don't upgrade any NeXT computer that must run an oracle6 server to
> Release 3.3. You can't install oracle6 on a NeXT computer that's
> running Release 3.3."
>
> Does this mean one can't upgrade a machine that is already functioning
> as a Oracle server or does this merely apply to new Oracle
> installations?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ---
> Michael S. Peacock Everest Software Corp.
> michael@eversoft.com Ph. 214-437-7631
Upgrading to 3.3 will break an existing Oracle 6 server. Poop!
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Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: Fonts & YASQ (Yet another stupid question)
Message-ID: <1995Jan6.235751.361@precipice.fdn.fr>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <3ehl5u$m8q@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 23:57:51 GMT
In article <3ehl5u$m8q@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom
Gall) writes:
> to get NS to save a large file over multiple smaller files???
/usr/bin/gnutar (since NS 3.2) can do multi volume :
> -M, +multi-volume create/list/extract multi-volume archive
On an old Nova CD I also found an app called BreakUp (80Ko) that does the job. I don't have any FTP adress for that. Sorry.
Other DOS utilities can also do multivolume (for example "arj" that has been ported to NS. it is Able to compress *and* do multi volume, gnutar just can't).
PS : I'm not only device oriented. When I say multi-volume, I also mean multi-file (remember your floppy is just a file : /dev/rfd0b)
Hugues
to get NS to save a large file over multiple smaller files???
/usr/bin/gnutar (since NS 3.2) can do multi volume :
> -M, +multi-volume create/list/extract multi-volume archive
On an old Nova CD I also found an app called BreakUp (80Ko) that does the job. I don't have any FTP adress for that. Sorry.
Other DOS utilities can also do multivolume (for example "arj" that has been ported to NS. it is Able to compress *and* do multi volume, gnutar just can't).
PS : I'm not only device oriented. When I say multi-volume, I also mean multi-file (remember your floppy is just a file : /de
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From: schaub@tam2000.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Real 3.3 Mail shortcomings? (Handling Email addresses)
Date: 7 Jan 1995 21:16:34 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <3en0bi$6u5@news.tamu.edu>
References: <SHESS.95Jan4170520@icicle.winternet.com> <D1yDvB.p3@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) wrote:
: So besides the fack that it is quite stupid to dublicate the work of
: keeping addresses in sync it is even more sad that the propriaty format of
: Mails addresses is not able to store a list of accepted mail format for a
: certain address !!
Try using the Phone.app. It is really handy. It reads the .addresses files,
lets you search for entries with keywords, click on the phone number and it
will dial the person for you, CLICK ON THE E-MAIL ADDRESS AND YOU ARE IN
COMPOSE MODE IN MAIL.APP WRITING A LETTER TO THIS PERSON. I have found this
Phone.app much easier and handier than Mail.app to manage the E-mail addresses
It is absolutely worth its $10 shareware fee.
:
From: root@athis.gttw.com (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for ANSI Terminal
Date: 7 Jan 1995 21:24:55 GMT
Organization: Jax Gateway to the World
Message-ID: <3en0r7$4sl@news.gttw.com>
Here is what I need :
1. ANSI Terminal
2. Said Terminal to be shareware.
3. Customizable keys (Preferablly in software, but can do it in shell)
Thank you!
Email me if such a beast exists!
--
Ronald R. Ohmer
root@athis.gttw.com
NeXT Mail WELCOME
From: waynem@gold.interlog.com (Wayne Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems Sending Mail - Netinfo Timeout
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:08:24
Organization: Interlog Internet Services -Voice (416) 975-2655 -Data 515-1414
Message-ID: <waynem.2.00112461@gold.interlog.com>
Summary: Problems Sending Mail - Netinfo Timeout
Has anyone experienced any problems with Netinfo timeouts while sending mail?
I'm connected via PPP on a standalone machine. I'm able to retrieve POP mail
using popover.app. When I try to send mail, mail hangs and the console
reports a Netinfo timeout. I'm using the sendmail.mailhost.cf file with my
provider's mailhost name; I've also tried sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf with
the same results. I've also tried making the Email changes suggested in the
NeXTStep Network and System Administration Guide.
Admittedly, my knowledge of Unix is somewhat limited, so I may be missing
something very obvious. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (I really
hate having to switch to Windows to send mail!)
waynem@gold.interlog.com
NeXTMail Accepted!
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Proxy ?
Date: 8 Jan 1995 11:50:54 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <3eojiu$1b1@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <1995Jan5.185728.25658@cal.DCS-Systems.COM> <3ejisl$nfd@metro.atlanta.com> <D1zn9C.I7o@cunews.carleton.ca>
Jason Bright (jbright@stimpy) wrote:
> b) Get the CERN httpd server. It has a configuration option that lets
> it run in proxy mode. Performance is good- cause it can/does caching of
> requests- but configuration can be a little tricky.
I run this configuration & I am having tons of trouble. I do not know
whether it is OmniWeb or the httpd, but I cannot open any URLs by hand, and
any time something goes wrong or I abort a download, things start acting up.
It looks as if OmniWeb tries to send requests of the form
http://server/http://server/.../http://actual_URL, which goes OK with only
one iteration but crashes with more. Eventually OmniWeb dies.
I'd appreciate reports from people running OmniWeb with a proxy without
problems.
On with the crossections for LEP2, the next big CERN experiment...
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh,
Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics
Leiden University
gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Archive Source for f2c?
Date: 8 Jan 1995 13:52:05 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3eoqm5$q6a@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3eh817$jqu@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <3eh817$jqu@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
(Georg Tuparev) writes:
>
> ftp://ftp/nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/non-gui/gnu/f2c.bs.NIH.tar.gz
^^^^^^^
Upps! sorry. The right address is:
ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de
>
> Soon there will be the 4xFAT (including SPARC) version ;-))
-- georg --
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is Kermit file transfer broken in NS/I 3.3?
Date: 8 Jan 1995 08:05:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9501081405.AA02780@cantina.lanl.gov>
Greetings,
I now no longer seem able to transfer files using Kermit. For example,
C-Kermit>set file type bin
C-Kermit>get TipTop-Supplement-1.5.tar.gz
IT%T%T%T%^C...
Something similar happens when I try an ascii transfer, but there I get a
few blocks transferred before it stops and then eventually times out because
of "too many NAKs".
The most annoying part of all this is that this freezes up my modem,
since it ends up being still in use by PID 156 (or so), which is owned by
root. The only way I've found to get the modem back is to reboot.
Does anybody see something similar? I am using
C-Kermit>version
C-Kermit 5A(188), 23 Nov 92, NeXT
Numeric: 501188
in collaboration with NXFAX, v.1.04
Dick Silbar
From: samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 08 Jan 1995 18:43:19 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Jan8134320@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
<3ek1jj$t1@news2.delphi.com>
In-reply-to: ACI_INC@news.delphi.com's message of 6 Jan 1995 13:19:31 -0500
> The hope may be fading, but that is not due to the drivers. It is
> important to point out that all the NeXT driver criticism in the last 2
> week were about the PCI video card's poor performence, and today we read
> about a PCI chip bug that causes this problem. All I have to say to the
> folks that criticised NeXT and expecially Talus, "Sorry folks, but you
> were dead wrong!!!"
Whoa there good buddy. You're the one that's dead wrong.
The problem was that NeXT made a "conservative" driver that worked
around a bug found in some chipsets. Not *all* chipsets. So, it's
kinda like this: if my computer works 100% correctly, why should I
suffer from a "workaround" meant to fix someone else's computer?
I shouldn't. What NeXT illustrates with their bad driver is:
1) Someone wrote a big hack in the first place.
2) Nobody at NeXT bothered to tell us about the big hack, and why it was
there.
3) The hacker never bothered to see if the defective chipset was ever
replaced by Intel (and it was long, long ago). They thus demonstrate
a lack of understanding about the hardware they're developing for.
4) NeXT "settles" for poor performance, *always*.
5) They didn't even really notice that there was a problem in the first
place! It took some convincing...
If they had more of a performance-oriented philosophy at NeXT, then this
would have never been deemed an adequate solution. It would have never
made it out of the gate and onto the CD-ROM. It's up to us to refuse to
accept this attitude about making drivers that "just work" and nothing
more. We have to demand that they produce drivers that "just work, and
work well."
So, the original cause may have been a discontinued and buggy chipset.
However the *problem* is the way NeXT decides to approach these issues.
They tend to make drivers that suck, are minimal, inflexible and perform
poorly. That was the case here. I believe that if I never started this
whole issue with a major flame on the net then nothing would have been
done. I know I don't make friends by doing this, but NeXT taught me long
ago that that was the only way to make them budge. I have high hopes
that the attitude over there has/is/will-be changed.
So, I hold out hope that NeXT learned something here: the user base
won't accept crappy performance anymore. God knows we're paying enough
for stellar hardware to run this OS. It would be nice to feel like the
hardware comes from the 90's, not the 80's.
The people that I dealt with at NeXT were very good about this. I
believe that in the future it's going to be much easier to get their
attention. I hope that I won't have to shout "HELLO????" on the net
anymore, and think I may not have to. This is really importan:t that they
learn to accept the net as a resource, and that there are people out
here that are good, and know what they're talking about. The attitude of
saying "You're wrong" when faced with criticism must go: it should be
replaced with an attitude of, "you might be right, let me see what other
people think of your ideas." Of course, people like me are often wrong.
But, that doesn't mean that there isn't an important core in the heart
of the ideas we present. Being defensive and brushing it off, saying
that "we know best, so don't worry" with a pat on the head, doesn't get
you anywhere. It sure as hell doesn't get *me* anywhere, and I'm the
important one here (ie. the user ;-). Well, it does get me somewhere:
closer to accepting NT more than ever before. Esp. with GNU moving more
and more towards supporting NT.
Ethan, John, Lennart, Steve H., Dawn, Mary, thanks for being patient and
not being upset with my public comments (though I know they probably
irritate you ;-).
- darcy
"We could send our engineers on a four-year vacation and still be
ahead." -- Steve J.
(Does Steve use the serial ports at all? He's surely not using PCI SCSI.
In fact, that's really odd coming from a place that shipped PCI support
a month ago. Wyndows and DOS have been doing it for a loooonng time.
Please, try bragging after you've got a working serial port driver.)
--
"Don't you know that small dogs and trash are not part of a balanced diet?"
-- Rocco
From: dennisg@news-srvr.CyberSAFE.COM (Dennis Glatting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 8 Jan 1995 11:54:41 -0800
Organization: CyberSAFE Corporation, Redmond WA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3epfu1$fab@kerby.ocsg.com>
In recent months I have seen dual Pentium boxes advertised.
Does anyone know if NeXTOS takes advantage of the dual
Pentiums? (I know Mach supports multiple processors but
will it schedule them?)
What dual Pentium boxes does NeXTSTEP run on?
-dpg
--
Dennis P. Glatting / CyberSAFE Corporation
Network and Security Infrastructure Architect
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: laurent@caladan.fdn.fr (Laurent LECHELLE)
Subject: irc client.
Message-ID: <1995Jan8.183630.3060@caladan.fdn.fr>
Sender: laurent@caladan.fdn.fr
Organization: No !
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 18:36:30 GMT
Hello,
I'm having a lot of troubles to compile ircII2.12 on NeXT (Motorola). Can
someone send me the information necessary to succed the compilation (a
config.h file or Makefile or best the binary ?)
Thank you.
--
__________________________________________
| |
____| Laurent Lechelle, Courbevoie, France |____
\ | e-mail: laurent@caladan.fdn.fr | /
> |__________________________________________| <
/_____> NeXT & MIME accepted <_____\
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FORTRAN Compilers
Date: 9 Jan 1995 00:27:28 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3epvtg$omc@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3e808r$4rp@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Sam Finn (lsf@jansky.astro.nwu.edu) wrote:
: I'm looking for a high quality FORTRAN compiler for the NeXT (black,
: if that matters) that follows that IEEE math standards. I have the
: absoft compiler, which is ok as long as you are not doing anything too
: serious (particulary with complex arithmetic, or with any application
: where IEEE math is important). I need to bring LAPACK up on my cube
: and am particularly interested in the double complex matrix routines
: and this is just plain beyond the absoft compiler.
You might lose a little bit in performance, but you can get
C versions of the LAPACK and BLAS routines from netlib.att.com.
cheers
Matt
--
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-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
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-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Nobody is perfect (Re: PCI Video Performance explained)
Date: 8 Jan 1995 17:10:20 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Message-ID: <3eq2ds$6pu@samsara.circus.com>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <3ek1jj$t1@news2.delphi.com> <SAMURAI.95Jan8134320@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
Okay, I was going to try to respond in a rational manner to some of this,
but since I don't know what information is appropriate to post I've gone
completely beyond into an abstract rant. Bear with me here.
Oh, by the way, I don't represent NeXT, although I sometimes like to try.
Darcy wrote:
>If they had more of a performance-oriented philosophy at NeXT, then this
>would have never been deemed an adequate solution. It would have never
>made it out of the gate and onto the CD-ROM. It's up to us to refuse to
>accept this attitude about making drivers that "just work" and nothing
>more. We have to demand that they produce drivers that "just work, and
>work well."
Well, another possibility is that you'd also still be waiting for the CD-ROM.
Whenever you are about to flame NeXT for something, try to picture the
following triangle:
Resources
/\
/ \
/ \
/______\
Quality Time
These are the three primary factors affecting the production of any product.
This is especially true in the case of software engineering projects. In
order to increase the quality of a project, one must expend either additional
time or additional resources. In order to release software sooner, one
must either cut the quality of a product or expend additional resources.
In order to make a bigger profit on a product (or, even to have positive cash
flow) one must not take too long to ship the software or spend more money
on engineering and marketing than one can expect to make back in product
sales.
So, if you're about to flame, ask yourself what you prefer:
* Waiting longer for the product
* Paying more for the product
* Putting up with whatever is annoying you
* Sacrificing some other feature of the product
Every company must make sacrifices between these three items, the main
difference between them is how they do it. NeXT, for example, has as far
as I can tell traditionally skimped on the marketing, thrown 90% of the
available resources into engineering, and occasionally dropped features
in order to avoid being labeled vaporware. Microsoft has traditionally
skimped on the engineering, thrown who knows what percentage of the available
resources into marketing, and seems to be taking their time with a successor
for DOS/Windows that Joe Six-Pack can actually get his paws on.
I think one of the surest ways to get ignored is to demand the impossible
or the unreasonable of NeXT; I've heard people proclaim loudly that NeXT
should do everything from selling a "stripped down NEXTSTEP" for $95, port
to every known architecture and microkernel, spend more on advertising, and
bring back hardware, while doing it all perfectly, and it better ship today!
Give us $100 billion dollars, we'll do it. :-)
Okay, I think I've gone beyond whatever point I had originally attempted to
make. Sorry for wasting your time. :-)
-Adam
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nobody is perfect (Re: PCI Video Performance explained)
Date: 9 Jan 1995 01:45:53 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3eq4gh$4t9@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <3eq2ds$6pu@samsara.circus.com>
In article <3eq2ds$6pu@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam
Deishu Beeman) writes:
> I think one of the surest ways to get ignored is to demand the impossible
> or the unreasonable of NeXT; I've heard people proclaim loudly that NeXT
> should do everything from selling a "stripped down NEXTSTEP" for $95, port
> to every known architecture and microkernel, spend more on advertising, and
> bring back hardware, while doing it all perfectly, and it better ship today!
>
All that you say is reasonable, and many people understand, some of us out here
do live in the real world, know what its like to try and get a product out the
door and have been trying hard (for some time) to make NEXTSTEP happen in the
marketplace.
I think people rant and make such "unreasonable" demands of NeXT because they
don't appear to listen anymore, they appear to have stopped listening some time
ago. NeXT really doesn't appear to listen to the people that know/use it most
or have done for so long, their customers, users and developers. Yes, I agree,
the vocal minority don't buy x million copies of the latest products, but I
sure do believe they (can) influence a lot of people. Pissing off the majority
of your third-parties (and every 3rd party I've ever known has their fare share
of war stories) just isn't the way to survive.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Proxy ?
Date: 09 Jan 1995 02:15:25 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <CRATH.95Jan8211525@bcarh3b5.bnr.ca>
References: <1995Jan5.185728.25658@cal.DCS-Systems.COM> <3ejisl$nfd@metro.atlanta.com>
<D1zn9C.I7o@cunews.carleton.ca> <3eojiu$1b1@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
In-reply-to: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl's message of 8 Jan 1995 11:50:54 GMT
The CERN proxy worked fine for me, as long as I turned OFF caching.
OmniWeb does caching of its own during a session, and I never found
the proxy's caching to be very essential; however, I did find that it
made OmniWeb flakey.
Christopher
--
=== Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 ===
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Proxy ?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 02:51:56 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3eq8cc$5b0@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <CRATH.95Jan8211525@bcarh3b5.bnr.ca>
In article <CRATH.95Jan8211525@bcarh3b5.bnr.ca> crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
writes:
> The CERN proxy worked fine for me, as long as I turned OFF caching.
> OmniWeb does caching of its own during a session, and I never found
> the proxy's caching to be very essential; however, I did find that it
> made OmniWeb flakey.
>
Its flakey if you interrupt it when its getting a document, that document
suddenly becomes unavailable, and OmniWeb does get weird "Permission Denied"
errors from time to time on those documents. But caching the documents its very
useful if you are running httpd on a local network and have common (changing)
pages that many people access on a regular basis. There are a lot of newspapers
now publishing daily W3 pages, and caching is useful for those where you want
to save the bandwidth of all your users going and fetching todays paper.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: keesing@ants.Stanford.EDU (Ron Keesing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Neural NeXTworks?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 02:50:52 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3eq8ac$32a@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Howdy, does anyone have info on neural network systems running on
NeXTStep?
Thanks for the help...
Ron Keesing
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP: "talk" does not work in 3.3???
Date: 9 Jan 1995 03:54:20 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3eqc1c$oad@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I am having the following problems in 3.3 and Terminal:
wjabi@libra> talk hall@yvonne.arch.cuhk.hk
You don't exist. Go away.
wjabi@libra> talk wjabi ttyp2
You don't exist. Go away.
wjabi@libra> cat /etc/utmp
consolewjabi j/ wjabi@libra>
wjabi@libra> who am I
wjabi@libra> whoami
wjabi
wjabi@libra> who
wjabi console Jan 8 22:31
wjabi@libra>
Can you help? "Talk" is very important to me.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Nobody is perfect (Re: PCI Video Performance explained)
Message-ID: <1995Jan9.043858.25536@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <3eq2ds$6pu@samsara.circus.com> <3eq4gh$4t9@xexos.xexos.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 04:38:58 GMT
In article <3eq4gh$4t9@xexos.xexos.com> mark@xexos.com writes:
>>In article <3eq2ds$6pu@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam
>>Deishu Beeman) writes:
>>> I think one of the surest ways to get ignored is to demand the impossible
>>> or the unreasonable of NeXT; I've heard people proclaim loudly that NeXT
>>> should do everything from selling a "stripped down NEXTSTEP" for $95, port
>>> to every known architecture and microkernel, spend more on advertising, and
>>> bring back hardware, while doing it all perfectly, and it better ship today!
>>>
>>
>>All that you say is reasonable, and many people understand, some of us out here
>>do live in the real world, know what its like to try and get a product out the
>>door and have been trying hard (for some time) to make NEXTSTEP happen in the
>>marketplace.
>>
>>I think people rant and make such "unreasonable" demands of NeXT because they
>>don't appear to listen anymore, they appear to have stopped listening some time
>>ago. NeXT really doesn't appear to listen to the people that know/use it most
>>or have done for so long, their customers, users and developers. Yes, I agree,
>>the vocal minority don't buy x million copies of the latest products, but I
>>sure do believe they (can) influence a lot of people. Pissing off the majority
>>of your third-parties (and every 3rd party I've ever known has their fare share
>>of war stories) just isn't the way to survive.
>>--
Hear, hear (literally!).
I actually tend to be pretty agnostic with regard to technology, as I've done
my time in lots of different places over the years, and can usually see
both sides of the story. I've shipped products, I've supported other's
people code, I've been in academia, etc. I try to write my code so it
compiles on lots of machines, and I try to keep an eye out for doing
both the "right thing" and the "reasonable thing". Given that, though,
I've always been a pretty rabid NEXTSTEP advocate; enough so that I bore
*myself* sometimes.
Mark is spot on with his remarks; this isn't about shipping a quality
product, per se, it's about corporate culture and its response to its
user base. Not the guys that sign the POs necessarily, but the advocates
who keep pushing NEXTSTEP, the "propeller heads", if you will. The geeks
in the back room, the folks in the cubicles that actually write the code,
the hackers who go to user group meetings. Heck, I used to work at
Thinking Machines, which was even quieter on the net than NeXT employees
are, so I understand that kind of corporate culture. There are parts of
that culture that I love, and there are other parts that are shameful.
Hubris, especially when it's unwarranted, is the greatest sin.
I think NeXT has gotten better than a few years ago, but they've still
got a long way to go. If they want a model to emulate (one that puts as
much stock in their engineering talent, although they clearly have a large
marketing clue, as opposed to...hrmf) go check out SGI. A very, very
large percentage (relatively speaking) of posts on most sgi newsgroups
are from SGI employees.
You want to know why SGIs are enjoying the mind boggling popularity they
are in both the popular and the tech press? It's not just about
product quality (although SGIs *are* nice); it's because they've got a
rabid user base; these people love their machines. And this is a different
relationship than the dysfunctional family relationship Apple has always
had with their developers. SGI treats their advocates/geeks/hackers/users
really well; check out their HotMix CDs sometime. Check out the number
of posts from the Inventor and Performer developers. It's not that
SGI engineers don't think they're the smartest graphics hackers around;
there's no shortage of self confidence (warranted, certainly) running the
halls of SGI, but at least they take advice well. Heck, look at the
fiasco that IRIX 5.1 and the leaked internal memo; SGI capitalized on
that, even though they really didn't get their shit totally together until
5.3.
anyway...
the point is that many of us: the techs, the geeks, the back room hackers -
us *unpaid advocates* - are getting tired of trying to tell NeXT things
(suggestions, bug reports, primal screaming) and feeling like we're going
hoarse and are already deaf.
sigh.
Back to thesis hacking. Time to finish up my time in academia and get
back to corporate politics - I'm getting shrill...
--
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From: caljouwr@cuug.ab.ca (Rob Caljouw)
Subject: SpiderWoman
Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca
Message-ID: <D210GL.D2D@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 08:19:30 GMT
Distribution: World
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
I keep reading great things about SpiderWoman.
Can anyone tell me where it is available from?
Thanks in advance.
--
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 broke my Mathematica!
Date: 9 Jan 1995 00:48:13 -0500
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eqimt$4hm@jujube.cs.umd.edu>
When I upgraded from NEXTSTEP 3.2 to 3.3 on my standalone Intel system,
Mathematica stopped working. I suspect this is the same problem I had
when I had to reinstall 3.2 when my system crashed (I had previously done
a 3.1 install, then an upgrade to 3.2). Since Mathematica is copy protected,
it uses the OS's serial number (I guess) instead of the ethernet address
which I don't have. Since this changes, I have to call them, get a fax
back, fill a form out, fax it back, wait..., and then get a fax back
again (days later) with my new password. Crazy, right? And I *paid*
for this damn piece of software!!!
OK, I know how to spoof the ethernet address. Is there a serial number
ID system call that I can spoof to get back up and running?
Ross.
PS: WRI, if you are listening, don't know know that this type of inconvenience
is what drove copy protection out of the PC market? And will motivate
me to hack your protection scheme to shreds? And not for free distribution,
but so I don't have to go a week without a basic tool.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Odd mouse problems still in 3.3?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 06:22:51 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3eqknr$4jf@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1995Jan6.015604.329@kira.net.netcom.com>
In article <1995Jan6.015604.329@kira.net.netcom.com>,
David John Burrowes <netcom.com!kira!davidjohn> wrote:
>There were two strange behaviors with the mouse in the Workspace Manager I
>ran into regularly on NeXTSTEP 3.2 (both black and white), and while I've
>seen others with them on one occasion, I've never seen any one mention them
>on the net.
>IF you have seen them before, and you have NOT seen them under 3.3, I'd love
>to know! (certainly, it would be another reason to consider upgrading).
>
>Problem 1: For unknown reasons, in the list view when renaming a file,
>sometimes the highlighted file name 'field' will remain on the screen (and
>remain editable) even if you go and edit another file's name. I've only
>ever seen this when I go to do another file-system operation before
>finishing editing this file's name, but I can't reproduce it on demand in
>any case.
Seen it 3.2, haven't seen it in 3.3 ........... yet.
>
>Problem 2: More obscure, but like the other seems tied to doing lots of
>'fast' work in the workspace manager. In the icon view, sometimes the WM
>seems to 'fall behind' in its processing of mouse clicks. So, suddenly,
>your clicks seem to have no effect, then eventually when you make click N,
>WM processes click N-3 (or something like that) assuming a 'drag' operation
>since the lack click point as well. Generally I can get out of this with
>several clicks in menu to switch to another view and back. Sadly, I don't
>know how to reproduce it on demand either.
>
Seen it 3.2, have seen something similiar in 3.3. I bet it has something
to do with the serial port problems and serial mouse. I get the impression
that mouse positions get messed up causing all sorts of oddities.
Sometimes 'double clicking' on a file the file starts to move like I had
selected it and started to move it, when I wanted to open it instead. Try
increasing your mouse resolution (mine is around 300), seems to reduce it
significantly.
I wonder if bus mouse users see this problem under either 3.2 or 3.3.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Proxy ?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 06:56:49 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3eqmnh$pst@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1995Jan5.185728.25658@cal.DCS-Systems.COM> <3ejisl$nfd@metro.atlanta.com> <D1zn9C.I7o@cunews.carleton.ca> <3eojiu$1b1@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh) writes:
>Jason Bright (jbright@stimpy) wrote:
>> b) Get the CERN httpd server. It has a configuration option that lets
>> it run in proxy mode. Performance is good- cause it can/does caching of
>> requests- but configuration can be a little tricky.
>I run this configuration & I am having tons of trouble. I do not know
>whether it is OmniWeb or the httpd, but I cannot open any URLs by hand, and
>any time something goes wrong or I abort a download, things start acting up.
> It looks as if OmniWeb tries to send requests of the form
>http://server/http://server/.../http://actual_URL, which goes OK with only
>one iteration but crashes with more. Eventually OmniWeb dies.
>I'd appreciate reports from people running OmniWeb with a proxy without
>problems.
I have the exact same problem. As other people have said, it mainly
happens when you interrupt a load and then try to read another file.
Whenever this happens, I just quit OmniWeb and restart it. I figure
it's a bug in their proxy code, and they tend to completely ditch
their WWW libraries and re-write it from time to time, anyway.
My CERN httpd also runs caching, so that may be doing it, too. I
think it's very useful, though. Also, it was a breeze to set up,
with the CERN httpd available on info.cern.ch pre-compiled for NeXT
with a proxy config file all set up.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-8833
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: shess@icicle.winternet.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Odd mouse problems still in 3.3?
Date: 09 Jan 1995 07:18:51 GMT
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SHESS.95Jan9011851@icicle.winternet.com>
References: <1995Jan6.015604.329@kira.net.netcom.com> <3eqknr$4jf@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In-reply-to: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu's message of 9 Jan 1995 06:22:51 GMT
In article <3eqknr$4jf@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>In article <1995Jan6.015604.329@kira.net.netcom.com>,
> David John Burrowes <netcom.com!kira!davidjohn> wrote:
>>Problem 2: More obscure, but like the other seems tied to doing
>>lots of 'fast' work in the workspace manager. In the icon view,
>>sometimes the WM seems to 'fall behind' in its processing of
>>mouse clicks. So, suddenly, your clicks seem to have no effect,
>>then eventually when you make click N, WM processes click N-3
>>(or something like that) assuming a 'drag' operation since the
>>lack click point as well. Generally I can get out of this with
>>several clicks in menu to switch to another view and back. Sadly,
>>I don't know how to reproduce it on demand either.
>
>Seen it 3.2, have seen something similiar in 3.3. I bet it has
>something to do with the serial port problems and serial mouse.
>I get the impression that mouse positions get messed up causing
>all sorts of oddities.
It's not a serial port problem - because this happens to me all the
time on my NeXT machine. I suspect that Workspace does some
undocumented stuff behind the scenes which messes up the event
queue. The best, nearly guaranteed, fix for this situation is to
hide the app and get back to it by double-clicking. Since the queue
is messed up, though, it can be hard to do. I generally hit Command-h
a couple times and also click the Hide menu item a couple times.
I've found that this generally happens to me during a drag of some
sort, especially when the system is under load (ie, compiling or
something). The first symptom will be a file which I was dragging
which doesn't drop as I want it, but doesn't snap back to the
Workspace. Instead it just sits there. From there, things get
worse until I manage to hide and unhide Workspace.
Later,
--
scott hess <shess@winternet.com> (WWW to "http://www.winternet.com/~shess/")
Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208
Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108E, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332
<?If you haven't the time to design, where will you find the time to debug?>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: adelo@cimsi.cim.ch (Alberto DE-LORENZI)
Subject: CNC & CAM with NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D24x50.L4z@eunet.ch>
Keywords: CNC CAM
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 10:58:11 GMT
We are a research center based in Switzerland (CIMSI, CIM della Svizzera
Italiana) and we are starting a new project under NEXTSTEP. Our goals are
the following:
- new flexible GUI for CNC machine;
- an API to communicate with different CNC;
- new simple programming concepts (CAM) for 2D, teaching and ev. 3D;
We want to know:
- there are other projects on this domain (CNC and CAM)?
- there are CAM programs running under NEXTSTEP?
Thanks in advance.
Alberto De-Lorenzi
*******************************************************
CIM della Svizzera Italiana
Centro Galleria
via Cantonale
6928 Manno
Switzerland
Tel +41 91 508106
Fax +41 91 508105
email: adelo@cimsi.cim.ch (NeXTMail welcome)
*******************************************************
From: tony@ns.cityscape.co.uk (Tony Jewell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Usenet News / POP Client for NeXT ?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 11:21:37 -0000
Organization: CityScape Internet Sevices
Message-ID: <3er681$qj4@ns.cityscape.co.uk>
Hi all -
I'm in the process of setting a Cybercafe here in the UK, based
on NeXT black boxes (and why not - we've got loads of them, and they look
really cool). We've got the WWW client sorted - Omniweb has come on leaps
and bounds since I last looked, but am stuck on the other packages, ie.
news and mail.
I'm trying to avoid using Unix readers - I'd like something for
native NeXTstep, but the browser I've got so far are pretty primitive
(NewsGrazer V0.75 and NewsBase3.0.2) - no threading for a start as well
as some other oddities. Are there later versions (not on ftp.cs.orst.edu
as far as I can see) or something else you could recommend ?
Secondly, has anyone produced either a POP3 or IMAP client for
NeXT ? I'd like to avoid using sendmail as we already have a large server
for our PCs here.
As usual, I'm on a budget, so PD or shareware would be
appreciated, but if there's some really solid, cheap commercial stuff out
there, I would consider it.
Cheers all,
Tony.
--
__ ___ EMail: tony@cityscape.co.uk
/ |_ Tel: (UK) 01223 566950
\__ ityscape |__Mail
Tony Jewell
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: 3.3 (poor video performance)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Date: 9 Jan 1995 11:26:55 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3er6hv$3h2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <schwettD1su4v.D0J@netcom.com> <3eagkf$kc5@news1.best.com> <schwettD1uF7x.Bnu@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
schwett@netcom.com wrote:
: kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth Dyke) writes:
: >looks like the translation that really got broken was the 12-bit to 24-bit
: >because shell windows and such still drag quickly. I suppose I could try to
: >see how well 8-bit grayscale windows drag around. [I just tried it and
: >eight-bit still flies right along].
Well, it seems there are some unhappy users out there. The problems might be
related to the graphics card / driver and to the PCIBus-driver
I'm very happy with my NXFactor of 2.32 on my Elsa Winner 2000pro 4MB PCI
and Pentium 66 in 8 Bit Color at 1536x1132. I had to remove the PCIBus
driver to double the performance, but now it flies.
NXFactor is about 1.3 in 16 Bit 444, about 10 percent slower than under 3.2.
Haven't tested true color yet. The only pity is that my user defined monitor
timings don't work anymore. Have to bug Elsa about this....
: >Well, I like NEXTSTEP too much to trash it over this little annoyance, but
: >I do think a bug report is in order.
Yes. There's something wrong with the PCIBus driver.
: I really LOVED 3.2, but, I don't *need* NeXTStep, really, and the video
: performance in 3.3 on my system makes it altogether unpleasant to work with...
Which graphics card do you have?
: >> Everybody who has this problem, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BUG NEXT. They need to
: >> know that it's not just a fluke.
Yes.
Cheers,
Axel
--
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Fehrbellinerstr. 39 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o(
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Fon: +49 0172 39 00 348 (privat) 030 314 73 327 (uni) \~/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton)
Subject: Re: Do you want SoftPC 4.0 (protected mode) for m68k/HP NEXTSTEP?
Organization: Madge Networks
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 08:36:45 GMT
Message-ID: <D24qLB.Dny@madge1.demon.co.uk>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
References: <3ekiov$p04@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Alan A. Barhorst (alan@osci.me.ttu.edu) wrote:
: Hello all,
: I am compiling a list of users of SoftPC for m68k (and HP)
: hardware running NEXTSTEP who want to be able to run SoftPC 4.0 (protected
: mode).
It might help you in your campaign if you get your terminology right (-:
SoftPC 3.0 on m68K already gives you protected mode - that's why it can run
Windows in Standard Mode. Protected mode was first introduced in the
Intel 286 processor.
I think what you're after is 386 emulation (which basically gives you 32
bit instructions, plus paging) and which allows you to run Windows in
Enhanced Mode.
Good luck!
Mike.
--
All present and future standard disclaimers apply
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: GUI app for extracting MACH segments
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jan9082944@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 13:29:44 GMT
Anyone know of PD source for extracting MACH segments (ala segedit)?
Robert
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Do you want SoftPC 4.0 (protected mode) for m68k/HP NEXTSTEP?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 14:29:13 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Message-ID: <3erh7p$1rt@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <D24qLB.Dny@madge1.demon.co.uk>
In article <D24qLB.Dny@madge1.demon.co.uk> mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk
(Mike Moreton) writes:
> Alan A. Barhorst (alan@osci.me.ttu.edu) wrote:
> : Hello all,
> : I am compiling a list of users of SoftPC for m68k (and HP)
> : hardware running NEXTSTEP who want to be able to run SoftPC 4.0
(protected
> : mode).
>
> It might help you in your campaign if you get your terminology right (-:
>
> SoftPC 3.0 on m68K already gives you protected mode - that's why it can
run
> Windows in Standard Mode. Protected mode was first introduced in the
> Intel 286 processor.
>
> I think what you're after is 386 emulation (which basically gives you 32
> bit instructions, plus paging) and which allows you to run Windows in
> Enhanced Mode.
Where can find the demo version of SoftPC 4.0 for Intel?
Anybody use it to run Matlab?
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bobh@hoqub.ho.att.com (Bob Herbst)
Subject: Mosaic on NeXT (white)
Message-ID: <D257tH.9KA@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:48:52 GMT
I am using NS 3.3 (Intel) and want to run Mosaic to access the WWW.
Looking for good solutions to be able to accomplish this.
Any shareware out there that is known to work?? I have seen several
versions on cs.orst, but not clear which version I should try.
Do I need to run an X windowing pkg such as co-Xist or CubXWindows??
Lastly, I currently have my hard drive partitioned into 2- 1 gig partitions
the first currently has MS DOS and Windows on it, I think I want to
play with OS/2 Warp Ver. 3.. any suggestions as to handling the boot
manager??
I have not yet installed OS/2.. I want to avoid any problems.
Has anyone done a similar thing??
Thanks in advance!
Bob
--
==============================================================
Bob Herbst Tel: (908)949-5338
AT&T Bell Labs E-mail: bobh@hoqub.att.com
Holmdel, NJ
From: bff@next.pvh.org (Brendan F. Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Msql DBkit?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 15:28:39 GMT
Organization: Colorado Supernet
Message-ID: <3erkn7$8q4@news-2.csn.net>
has anyone developed or know of a DBKit adapter for Msql (Mini SQL).
Thanks
Brendan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: Edit printer problem (was Re: 3.3 (poor video performance))
Message-ID: <D25DqL.1u1@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <D1zMCD.oM@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> <3ekbl6$s99@bunyan.covenant.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 16:56:44 GMT
petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes:
>In article <D1zMCD.oM@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim
>Pugh) writes:
> [Old stuff deleted]
>> I have received several mail messages suggesting either my paper size
>> selection is set incorrectly or that it only happens with RTF files
>> or perhaps I have something fouled up in Netinfo. Here is the scenario:
>> (1) I did a complete install of NS3.3, not a upgrade. This should
>> address the Netinfo suggestion.
>> (2) I rechecked my paper size selector. It is set to LTR, not A4.
>> (3) I created a four line doc in ascii mode. It produced a two
>> page output.
>> (4) I changed the doc to RTF. It also produced a two page output.
>> (5) By setting the Printer Pannel From=1, To=1; I get a single
>> page output.
>> (6) Multi-page documents pose no problem.
>> (7) I had the same problem with NS3.2
>> Since I seem to be one of only a few who have experience this problem,
>> I have to assume it is a hardware related problem. Thanks for you hlep.
>> --Tim
>> --
>> Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services
>> tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
>> |Laurel, MD 20708-1355
> [Collapsed so NewsGrazer will let me post]
>I couldn't resist trying this, especially since
>I am having printer problems, so sample pages
>to print are needed anyway. :-)
>I did just what you said: opened Edit.app, made
>sure the settings were on Letter size (not LTR
>but Letter in my version) and ascii, created a
>four line file, and printed it. I got only one
>page. Indeed, there must be more to the story...
>Cheers,
>Don Petcher
Thanks to Ernie Baca, I have discovered the source of the problem. If
the Edit window size is greater than 46 lines, the problem occurs. It
turns out that with the default font setting (Olfs-10) coupled with the
one inch heater and footer margins, only 46 lines can be printer per page.
I contend however that Edit has a bug due to the way it handlse this
setting issue. A window heights setting exceeding 46 lines should
not cause a four line document to output two pages on the printer.
Since I do most of my source editing in vi, I principally used Edit as
the default file viewer. In such a case, I wish to display as many lines
of text as the display will allow (60 lines). This setting should not
prevent me from printing short docs (less than 46 lines) on a single
page IMHO.
--Tim
--
Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services
tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
|Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 broke my Mathematica!
Date: 9 Jan 1995 17:10:58 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3erqn2$9a8@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3eqimt$4hm@jujube.cs.umd.edu>
In article <3eqimt$4hm@jujube.cs.umd.edu> rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett
Cutler) writes:
> it uses the OS's serial number (I guess) instead of the ethernet address
> which I don't have. Since this changes, I have to call them, get a fax
> back, fill a form out, fax it back, wait..., and then get a fax back
> again (days later) with my new password. Crazy, right? And I *paid*
> for this damn piece of software!!!
> PS: WRI, if you are listening, don't know know that this type of
> inconvenience is what drove copy protection out of the PC market? And
> will motivate me to hack your protection scheme to shreds? And not for
> free distribution, but so I don't have to go a week without a basic
> tool.
I also have a legitimate copy of Mathematica (version 2.1, kernel 2.0 for
NextStep Motorolla) and have had annoying problems with Wolfram's asinine
copy protection crap. When I upgraded from a mono 25 MHz to a color 25MHz
NeXT, I had to mail them a bill of sale, send them the stupid code their
program prints out and wait about a week until I got a working password.
Altogether, it cost me almost two weeks.
I have also wanted to take my hard drive to my father's office on the East
coast to show him the simulations I had programmed. Unfortunately, I had
used Mathematica to plot my results, and when I booted another NeXT from
my hard drive I couldn't show off my work because of Wolfram's machine
specific copy protection.
I WOULD *LOVE* to find a hack to get around Mathematica's damned machine
specific copy protection. If anybody has devised a way, please email me.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC for NextStep??
Date: 9 Jan 1995 17:14:10 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3erqt2$9bh@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Does ircII exist for NextStep? Here is part of the man page for irc on a
SUN. Has anybody ever heard of this for NextStep?
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
****************************************************************
IRCII(1L) MISC. REFERENCE MANUAL PAGES IRCII(1L)
NAME
ircII - interface to the Internet Relay Chat system
SYNOPSIS
irc [-c chan] [-p portno] [-f] [-F] [-s] [-S] [-d] [nickname
[server list]] [-l filename ] [-L filename ] [-a] [-v]
DESCRIPTION
The ircII program is a full screen, termcap based interface
to Internet Relay Chat. It gives full access to all of the
normal IRC functions, plus a variety of additional options.
From: mlw13@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.L. Woodley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Neural NeXTworks?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 17:23:50 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <3errf6$ihv@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
References: <3eq8ac$32a@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
If you can't afford NeuroSolutions, the vastly expensive but superb neural
network lego set, the next best thing might be ASPIRIN/Migraines. This is
a public domian neural net simulator and interface package which can be
compiled to run on black NeXTs. I managed it in a matter of minutes but that
was a while back so I can't supply details now. There was definitely a NeXT
option in the makefile.
It's available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cognet.uclu.edu and I think it's in
the directory /pub/alexis. It's about 6Mb compressed and inflates to about 20,
though most of that is the Examples folder.
Anyone interested can email me at mlw13@cus.cam.ac.uk.
Hope that helps...
Michael Woodley
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP: "talk" does not work in 3.3???
Date: 9 Jan 1995 18:43:18 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3es046$2ju@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3ers57$luj@core.symnet.net>
>Wassim M. Jabi writes
> I am having the following problems in 3.3 and Terminal:
>
> wjabi@libra> talk hall@yvonne.arch.cuhk.hk
> You don't exist. Go away.
The fact that "talk" is not working is a symptom of my
problem not the real cause. Here is my theory on what
is happening:
Under NS3.2 starting a Terminal shell generated
a ttypX entry in /etc/utmp which somehow identifies
who is logged in at what terminal.
Under NS3.3 Terminal does not do that anymore.
The result is that talk (when I initiated it)
tells me that I do not exist.
Even if I use ytalk, the responder to my talk
request will not be able to "see" my terminal
and know where I am logged in. It will fail
saying that my machine is refusing messages.
The solution might be to use "Stuart" instead
of Terminal. I'll have to try it.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: burnett@pslvax.psl.msu.edu (Barb Burnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X server for NeXT Demension Black Box
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 13:57:15 -0500
Organization: Physiology / M.S.U.
Message-ID: <burnett-0901951357150001@pslbb1.psl.msu.edu>
One of my Professors would like to run some X-windows programs resident on
Radiology's Suns here on our Black Box NeXT machine (68040) with the
32-bit color card. MouseX does not work on a NeXT Demension machine. Does
anyone have another X-server that will work in this Box???
Greg Romig
romig@pslvax.psl.msu.edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does NS run on an AMD 486 DX2/80?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 01:04:22 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eqjl6$5nl@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Hi All,
I'm getting a 486 system and I can get an AMD 486 DX2/80 for the same
price as an Intel 486 DX2/66. If NEXTSTEP works with the AMD I'll
opt for the extra speed at no extra charge :-)
Thanks for the info. Later, John
From: mark@jehu.extern.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WSM and Edit
Date: 9 Jan 1995 20:00:55 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3es4ln$dru@network.ucsd.edu>
When I log in as root and double click on text files in the Workspace
Manager, the files no longer automatically get opened in Edit. I don't
have this problem with my other accounts, just root.
How can I reassign Edit as the default application to open text files
with?
--
==================================================================
Mark Trombino
trombino@wendy.ucsd.edu
Center For Research in Computing the Arts, U.C.S.D.
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From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3.3 & SLIP
Date: 9 Jan 1995 19:02:17 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3es17p$11jq@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Hi All,
The time how now come to get my machine at home on the internet. By the looks
of the local service provides I'll have to do SLIP as there is no PPP in
town here in Rochester Minn.
I seem to remember reading *SOMEWHERE* that the TransSys PNI slip didn't
work with 3.3. Is this true?
Is the TransSys PNI the only SLIP package for my NeXT machine? (It's white
hardware btw)
Have $$$$, will order (if need be)!
--
Hakuna Matata!
Tom
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From: sbrandon@auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC for NextStep??
Date: 9 Jan 1995 19:57:41 GMT
Organization: Internet Company of New Zealand
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3es4fm$o0f@status>
References: <3erqt2$9bh@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3erqt2$9bh@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
> Does ircII exist for NextStep? Here is part of the man page for irc on
a
> SUN. Has anybody ever heard of this for NextStep?
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@raven.stanford.edu
>
I have compiled irc2.8.19 for NeXT. Is ircII the same /
more recent than irc2.8.19? How does the numbering scheme work?
Did anyone receive my post a week or two back with the source changes to
make irc2.8.19 compile? There may have been some problems with my news
poster. I'll repost if necessary.
--
Steve
sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: razor@net23.com (Razor)
Subject: Re: IRC for NextStep??
References: <3erqt2$9bh@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News)
Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 21:20:14 GMT
Message-ID: <D25pxr.G0u@news2.new-york.net>
In article <3erqt2$9bh@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
>
> Does ircII exist for NextStep? Here is part of the man page for irc on a
> SUN. Has anybody ever heard of this for NextStep?
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@raven.stanford.edu
You guys are sad. Grab ircII2.2.9 or 2.3.17beta from the ftp sites and
compile following the instructions. It will work fine.
Nick
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From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: The HP 712/80 computer, Mathematica and NEXTSTEP
Date: 9 Jan 1995 22:06:46 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3esc1m$4ab@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
I have just obtained the funding required to purchase an HP Model
712/80 computer. Naturally, I also intend to purchase NEXTSTEP for HP
PA-RISC so that I can continue to use _most_ of my favorite NEXTSTEP
applications. I say _most_ because, as has been widely reported, some
NEXTSTEP applications haven't been ported to PA-RISC machines yet. One
such application is Mathematica. I use Mathematica heavily; in fact, the
main reason I want a 712/80 is to run Mathematica programs that I write
for my research projects.
With the above commentary as background, I have the following
questions concerning the HP 712/80 computer, and its use to run
Mathematica and NEXTSTEP applications:
1. To those who have purchased a 712/80, or have used it extensively:
Are you satisfied with the performance of the computer? Is it as fast as
advertised? It performs floating point calculations faster than an Apple
PowerPC, right? Is the 712/80 a good NEXTSTEP platform? What about the
quality of the text and graphics on the 20" color monitor that HP sells?
Finally, is there any advice you would offer concerning the purchase of
peripherals for the 712/80?
2. Regarding the use of the 712/80 to run Mathematica: As I wait for
Mathematica to be ported to NEXTSTEP for HP PA-RISC, can I run Mathematica
on HP-UX, and then switch over to NEXTSTEP to run my other favorite
programs (either by logging out, rebooting, or powering down the machine)?
3. Is there some way I can hook up my old NeXT laser printer to the
712/80 so that I don't have to buy a new printer?
If you can answer one or more of the questions posed above, I
would like to hear from you. Thanks in advance to all who take the time
to respond to this post.
Jim
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: HELP: "talk" does not work in 3.3??? (SOLVED)
Date: 9 Jan 1995 22:31:59 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3esdgv$5qv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3es046$2ju@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Thanks for all who responded. The solution was indeed
hinted to in the Stuart.app manual (setuid to root)
which many consider a security hole. In any case,
what I had to do was very simple and was suggested by
Scott Hess:
basically, Terminal must be setuid root:
something like:
hostname> ls -l /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root 237568 Aug 20 1993
/NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal*
If it is not like that, one must do something like:
hostname> su root
Password:
hostname# chmod u+s /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal
That fixed it for me. Be careful, there seems to be
a lot of hazards to doing this, always consult someone who
knows if you don't (that's what I did).
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC for NextStep??
Date: 9 Jan 1995 22:59:53 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3esf59$fdg@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3es4fm$o0f@status>
In article <3es4fm$o0f@status> sbrandon@auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon)
writes:
> I have compiled irc2.8.19 for NeXT. Is ircII the same /
> more recent than irc2.8.19? How does the numbering scheme work?
>
> Did anyone receive my post a week or two back with the source changes to
> make irc2.8.19 compile? There may have been some problems with my news
> poster. I'll repost if necessary.
I don't know the numbering scheme myself. I also didn't see your earlier
posting about irc and the required source changes. Could you repost?
Could you also say where you got the origonal source?
Your email address (sbrandon@auckland.ac.nz) is invalid, by the way. Mail
sent there bounces, saying "unknown or illegal user."
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCMCIA adapter driver? What? Where?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 23:15:06 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3esg1q$cst@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Oh shucks just when I thought I had all my little duckies in a row...
NS3.3 arrived today and I eagerly popped open the box and checked out
the release notes and found on page 18 this confusing little message
about using PCMCIA devices: I need to configure two drivers besides the
one that supports my particular card. The first driver is the Bus Support
that comes with NS, and the second one is the "adapter driver" that
supports the "socket implementation" in my hardware.
It says "see the Hardware Compatibility Guide to find out if a PCMCIA
driver is available for that hardware."
What??? I checked on NeXTAnswers - the HCG is still the3.2 version,
and there's nary a sign of any PCMCIA anything in the driver list.
;-\
Any wisdom out there to share?
8-}
-patricia
PS does "socket controller hardware" just mean, like, Type III?
Thanks in advance!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <D262vJ.DqE@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 01:59:41 GMT
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com>
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Hi,
John Landwehr (jlandwehr@NeXT.COM) wrote:
> In order to work around a hardware problem involving the Intel 824x0 PCI
> host-bus chip, the Intel824X0 PCI driver supplied with NEXTSTEP version 3.3
> disables Write-Posting--a performance feature--in this controller chip.
[...]
> updated driver has been completed, and will be posted to NEXTANSWERS upon
> completion of testing.
> John Landwehr
> NEXTSTEP 3.3 Release Manager
but what about PCI boards which doesn't use Intel chipsets but SiS,
OPTi, VIA or whatever? Does it mean they were not affected?
Could please someone who has such a board comment this and tell whether
the video speed is slower with 3.3 or not?
BTW, do all Intel chipsets (486: Saturn, Aries, Pentium: Mercury, Neptun)
use the 824x0 host-bus chip and hence all such boards are affected?
Thanks,
Thomas
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 9 Jan 1995 23:38:32 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3eshdo$19k@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <3ek1jj$t1@news2.delphi.com> <SAMURAI.95Jan8134320@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
In article <SAMURAI.95Jan8134320@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>,
Darcy BROCKBANK <samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>
>
[munch]
>The problem was that NeXT made a "conservative" driver that worked
>around a bug found in some chipsets. Not *all* chipsets. So, it's
>kinda like this: if my computer works 100% correctly, why should I
>suffer from a "workaround" meant to fix someone else's computer?
I don't blame NeXT at all for being conservative. Slowness is not
nice, data corruption should be avoided at all costs.
I thought the NeXT posting and Nextanswer (# 1823 ?) made it quite clear.
The info on the various cuts of chips affected was recieved too late to
make the software on the CD. A patched file will be supplied later. If
you know what's going on and feel wise enough to fiddle, you may at your
own risk.
>
>I shouldn't. What NeXT illustrates with their bad driver is:
>
>1) Someone wrote a big hack in the first place.
>2) Nobody at NeXT bothered to tell us about the big hack, and why it was
> there.
>3) The hacker never bothered to see if the defective chipset was ever
>replaced by Intel (and it was long, long ago). They thus demonstrate
> a lack of understanding about the hardware they're developing for.
>4) NeXT "settles" for poor performance, *always*.
>5) They didn't even really notice that there was a problem in the first
> place! It took some convincing...
>
>If they had more of a performance-oriented philosophy at NeXT, then this
>would have never been deemed an adequate solution. It would have never
>made it out of the gate and onto the CD-ROM. It's up to us to refuse to
>accept this attitude about making drivers that "just work" and nothing
>more. We have to demand that they produce drivers that "just work, and
>work well."
>
>So, the original cause may have been a discontinued and buggy chipset.
>However the *problem* is the way NeXT decides to approach these issues.
>They tend to make drivers that suck, are minimal, inflexible and perform
>poorly. That was the case here. I believe that if I never started this
>whole issue with a major flame on the net then nothing would have been
>done. I know I don't make friends by doing this, but NeXT taught me long
>ago that that was the only way to make them budge. I have high hopes
>that the attitude over there has/is/will-be changed.
I'm not entirely satisfied with the drivers either, but I think you are
being overly dramatic. I'm not saying you are wrong, but given finite
resources, it seems drivers that run reliably at 80% full speed are better
than ones that run at 99% and cause all sorts of support issues, or worse
yet large scale data corruption. The latter will put NeXT out of business
very very fast.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
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From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC2.8.19 -- compiles!
Date: 10 Jan 1995 00:25:05 GMT
Organization: Internet Company of New Zealand
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3esk52$3gk@status>
For those of you wanting to use IRC on NeXT, v2.8.19 can be compiled after
a few minor changes to the source.
I have not yet managed to get the server to compile (I'm no C/UNIX guru)
but the client seems to work ok.
I have e-mailed (NeXTmail) the changes to several people who have asked,
but with my astronomical e-mail costs this must stop. In a following post
I'll include the changes in a NewsGrazer post. Sorry to those who can't
make use of this.
My setup is NS3.2 (dev) on Motorola NeXT. Not tested on Intel.
Please direct followup discussion to the group. If any C gurus can help
get the server to compile I'm sure that will be helpful.
Once the whole package compiles it should be sent to the archives at orst
etc.
To compile the source, you'll need to find the source package at a local
archive. (IRC.2.8.19.gz)
Archie turned up the following:
Host cs.bu.edu
Location: /irc/servers
FILE -rw-r--r-- 4199 Apr 22 1994
irc2.8.18-to-irc2.8.19.PATCH.Z
FILE -rw-r--r-- 470913 Apr 22 1994 irc2.8.19.tar.Z
FILE -rw-r--r-- 308948 Apr 22 1994 irc2.8.19.tar.gz
Host ftp.cyf-kr.edu.pl
Location: /agh/uciagh/network/irc/server
FILE -rw-rw-r-- 313590 May 23 1994 irc2.8.19.U3.1.tar.gz
FILE -rw-rw-r-- 308948 Apr 22 1994 irc2.8.19.tar.gz
Host ftp.uni-oldenburg.de
Location: /pub/unix/net/irc/servers
FILE -rw-rw-r-- 4199 Apr 22 1994
irc2.8.18-to-irc2.8.19.PATCH.Z
FILE -rw-rw-r-- 16274 Jun 12 11:49
irc2.8.19-to-irc2.8.20.PATCH.Z
FILE -rw-rw-r-- 470913 Apr 22 1994 irc2.8.19.tar.Z
FILE -rw-rw-r-- 308948 Apr 22 1994 irc2.8.19.tar.gz
--
Steve
sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail welcome!
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sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail not welcome for a few weeks.
From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC2.8.19 changes -- NewsGrazer post (sorry)
Date: 10 Jan 1995 00:25:50 GMT
Organization: Internet Company of New Zealand
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3esk6e$3j4@status>
Sorry, this does not include the whole package, as my e-mail costs
are very high. It should be very easy to find the source package on a
local archive though.
find: IRC.2.8.19.gz Other versions may/may not work.
Here are the changes to make (all the files have been gzipped, so
you'll have to gunzip them):
replace irc2.8.19/Makefile by this new makefile:
replace irc2.8.19/irc/Makefile by this new makefile:
add the following file, calling it irc2.8.19/include/setup.h
This file is usually automatically generated after you answer a whole
lot of questions.
replace irc2.8.19/doc/ChangeLog by this new file: (documents the
changes I made)
Then in a terminal window, cd to irc2.8.19 and "make client". This
should work! DON'T run the Config script in the irc2.8.19 directory
as I have provided the setup.h file that it creates.
I haven't tried to compile the server as I don't need it. It may need
further tweaking if you want to use it.
To start it up, go to the irc2.8.19 directory and type irc <nickname>
<servername> where <servername> might be one of
EFFnet: irc-2.mit.edu
irc.uiuc.edu
irc.colorado.edu
.. or a local one for you.
Any problems, please email back. Or even if you get it working, I'll
be pleased to know.
--
Steve
sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail not welcome for a few weeks
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From: petergun@coffeehaus.com (Stephane I. Matis)
Subject: CDPlayer
Organization: >> cofeehaus << " Satisfying your Digital Caffeine needs. "
Message-ID: <D25uF9.2wE@coffeehaus.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 22:57:08 GMT
I need help. I can't seem to have the CD-ROM work with audio .... I have no
clue anymore why.
Please, what have I got wrong.
SCSI id set to 4
CDplayer is -rwsr-x-r-x and owned by root. Now what ?
Thanks in advance,
--
petergun
R-name : Stephane I. Matis
E-mail : petergun@coffeehaus.com
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 3.3 & SLIP
Date: 10 Jan 1995 01:56:00 GMT
Organization: Frontier Internet, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3espfg$mfq@animas.frontier.net>
References: <3es17p$11jq@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
In article <3es17p$11jq@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom
Gall) writes:
> Hi All,
>
> The time how now come to get my machine at home on the internet. By the
looks
> of the local service provides I'll have to do SLIP as there is no PPP in
> town here in Rochester Minn.
>
> I seem to remember reading *SOMEWHERE* that the TransSys PNI slip didn't
> work with 3.3. Is this true?
TranSys PNI 1.1 works on black and white hardware under 3.3 just fine. We have
tested it extensively on both types of systems. (It might require
reinstallation if you are upgrading, though)
--
Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Windows, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does NS run on an AMD 486 DX2/80?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 08:27:53 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3etge9$gtv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3eqjl6$5nl@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
John Kheit writes
> Hi All,
>
> I'm getting a 486 system and I can get an AMD 486 DX2/80 for the same
> price as an Intel 486 DX2/66. If NEXTSTEP works with the AMD I'll
> opt for the extra speed at no extra charge :-)
>
> Thanks for the info. Later, John
Similar decision for me, please post any answer!
-Rainer
__________________________
No message today. rainer@picard.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCMCIA adapter driver? What? Where?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 02:50:53 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <3essmd$ip3@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <3esg1q$cst@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
More importantly, can one install NS 3.3 onto a portable without an
expansion adapter, just using the PCMCIA Adaptec/Trantor adapter? Has
anyone succeeded?
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance (ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu)
AGSM at UCLA
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From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: Usenet News / POP Client for NeXT ?
In-Reply-To: tony@ns.cityscape.co.uk's message of 9 Jan 1995 11:21:37 -0000
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Jan9203144@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3er681$qj4@ns.cityscape.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 01:31:43 GMT
>>>>> "Tony" == Tony Jewell <tony@ns.cityscape.co.uk> writes:
Tony> Hi all - I'm in the process of setting a Cybercafe here in
Tony> the UK, based on NeXT black boxes (and why not - we've got
Tony> loads of them, and they look really cool). We've got the WWW
Tony> client sorted - Omniweb has come on leaps and bounds since I
Tony> last looked, but am stuck on the other packages, ie. news
Tony> and mail.
Tony> I'm trying to avoid using Unix readers - I'd like
Tony> something for native NeXTstep, but the browser I've got so
Tony> far are pretty primitive (NewsGrazer V0.75 and
Tony> NewsBase3.0.2) - no threading for a start as well as some
Tony> other oddities. Are there later versions (not on
Tony> ftp.cs.orst.edu as far as I can see) or something else you
Tony> could recommend ?
Tony> Secondly, has anyone produced either a POP3 or IMAP
Tony> client for NeXT ? I'd like to avoid using sendmail as we
Tony> already have a large server for our PCs here.
Tony> As usual, I'm on a budget, so PD or shareware would be
Tony> appreciated, but if there's some really solid, cheap
Tony> commercial stuff out there, I would consider it.
Tony> Cheers all,
Tony> Tony.
Tony> -- __ ___ EMail: tony@cityscape.co.uk / |_ Tel: (UK) 01223
Tony> 566950 \__ ityscape |__Mail Tony Jewell
For a Pop3 client you should get PopOver.app available at
ftp.cs.orst.edu in software/NeXT/binaries/mail. This is
exactly what you need I think.
Francois Magnan
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** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca **
** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal **
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From: petergun@coffeehaus.com (Stephane I. Matis)
Subject: Re: CDPlayer
Organization: >> cofeehaus << " Satisfying your Digital Caffeine needs. "
Message-ID: <D26AJu.59@coffeehaus.com>
References: <D25uF9.2wE@coffeehaus.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 04:45:28 GMT
Stephane I. Matis (petergun@coffeehaus.com) wrote:
: I need help. I can't seem to have the CD-ROM work with audio .... I have no
: clue anymore why.
: Please, what have I got wrong.
: SCSI id set to 4
: CDplayer is -rwsr-x-r-x and owned by root. Now what ?
: Thanks in advance,
I'm even more confused now ... cause it works all of the sudden. Anyone got
any ideas why it could have acted up ... ???????
: --
: petergun
:
: R-name : Stephane I. Matis
: E-mail : petergun@coffeehaus.com
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petergun
R-name : Stephane I. Matis
E-mail : petergun@coffeehaus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ripley!johnb (John L Bergquist)
Subject: SLIP/PPP
Message-ID: <D26I5w.1LC@ripley.org>
Sender: johnb@ripley.org (John L Bergquist)
Organization: The Rathole
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 07:29:55 GMT
I'm looking to upgrade my internet connection from UUCP to TCP/IP
and I'm looking for recommendations from unbiased sources.
Morningstar PPP sells for approx $800 and comes with SLIP and CSLIP.
I've also heard of TransSys dial-up IP, but I'm not sure how much
it sells for. Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance.
-John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ripley!johnb (John L Bergquist)
Subject: Scanner and character recognition software
Message-ID: <D26IGF.1Mv@ripley.org>
Sender: johnb@ripley.org (John L Bergquist)
Organization: The Rathole
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 07:36:14 GMT
Anyone have recommendations or advice on scanner software?
I know Scantastic sells for about $300, and I've also heard of
something called Scan-o-matic. I'm interested in hearing people's
experiences/recommendations on these or other packages.
I'm also interested in hearing about character recognition software
like ExpressOCR.
Thanks in advance,
-John
(WWW: http://slag.capmkt.com/)
From: Colin Allen <callen@spot.colorado.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help with 3.2 Reinstallation
Date: 10 Jan 1995 05:54:02 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <3et7dq$fpj@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
Originator: callen@spot.Colorado.EDU
I have been running 3.2 on a 66Mhz Pentium (from Eclipse). The system
has been stable for 4 months, but today it started to act up. After a
number of kernel panic crashes -- Failed instruction exception (2,d,0)
-- and then some problems with the Workspace Manager, including that
it would crash when I tried to log in with some users, but not others,
I decided that I had best reinstall NEXTSTEP from the CD-ROM. The
reinstallation process went fine until the panel where you are
supposed to select a language and a keyboard. At this point the
system just hangs. The mouse/cursor is frozen on the screen and the
OK button does not respond to the Return key. I have done the
reinstallation twice with the same effects. What am I doing wrong?
Please help!
Thanks.
Colin Allen, Asst. Prof \0/ 1994-95 address (Aug. 1 on)
Philosophy, Texas A&M Univ. _@_ EPO Biology, Univ. of Colorado
College Station TX 77843-4237 X Boulder CO 80309-0334
_______(409)845-5660_________ ^|^ _________(303)546-6552________
--
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Philosophy, Texas A&M Univ. _@_ EPO Biology, Univ. of Colorado
College Station TX 77843-4237 X Boulder CO 80309-0334
_______(409)845-5660_________ ^|^ _________(303)546-6552________
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: #9Imagine128 Drivers?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 19:27:01 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3esk8l$bgb@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Does anyone have a driver for the #9Imagine128 PCI 8meg card and 4meg card?
I have both of these cards but can't use them--and it sucks! I need the
drivers to work with NS3.3. I dont care if they are alpha or beta. I cant
use my system until I get some kind of driver for them. Aye, when am I going
to stop going to the bleeding edge of technology :-)
Much appreciated, Later, John
PS - Does anyone know if NS will work on the AMD 486 clone chip?
From: Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ?FTP clients and Sound.apps
Date: 10 Jan 1995 07:57:32 GMT
Organization: Wimsey Information Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3etelc$9e2@wolfe.wimsey.com>
Keywords: FTP sound NeXT
Sorry to trouble you all, but is there a NeXT FTP client that lets you
type in a pathname to get from (I'm not trying to avoid the GUI, but I
have directories with invisible names that I want to get to, and GatorFTP+
0.98a doesn't have an open panel that you can type into).
Also, is there a replacement for Sound.app that realizes that
mac-format.snd files are really at 11 KHz NOT 22 KHz (when I click on
sound bites in OmniWeb they sound like the chipmunks when they launch).
Thanks,
Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com> http://www.wimsey.com/~khiebert
NeXTMail accepted * PGP public key available for secure communication
From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC for NextStep??
Date: 10 Jan 1995 07:50:17 GMT
Organization: Internet Company of New Zealand
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ete7p$hbq@status>
References: <D25pxr.G0u@news2.new-york.net>
In article <D25pxr.G0u@news2.new-york.net> razor@net23.com (Razor) writes:
> In article <3erqt2$9bh@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu
(Todd
> Takken) writes:
> >
> > Does ircII exist for NextStep? Here is part of the man page for irc
<<<< >>>>
> > -- Todd Takken
> You guys are sad. Grab ircII2.2.9 or 2.3.17beta from the ftp sites and
> compile following the instructions. It will work fine.
Well 'scuse us for trying to help out. If the versions you mention compile
cleanly then thanks.
> Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider
> razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro
area
--
Steve
sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail welcome!
From: flight@djingis (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Jan 1995 11:01:24 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3etpe4$2m8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com>
John Landwehr (jlandwehr@NeXT.COM) wrote:
: In order to work around a hardware problem involving the Intel 824x0 PCI
: host-bus chip, the Intel824X0 PCI driver supplied with NEXTSTEP version 3.3
: disables Write-Posting--a performance feature--in this controller chip.
: Without this workaround, users of bus-mastering drivers, including PCI SCSI
: and ethernet drivers, would experience intermittent system crashes with
: possible resulting data corruption. Note that this is a problem with the
: controller chip, not with NEXTSTEP. Version 3.3 of NEXTSTEP simply
: implements a workaround to this operating-system independent
: hardware problem.
: The tradeoff for this increased robustness is lower performance than
: would be possible if write-posting could be safely enabled. Given the
: potential for data loss which exists with this chip, NeXT strongly
: recommends that users of PCI bus mastering devices accept the lower
: performance this workaround causes.
Well, this information policy slightly reminds me of Intel's Pentium
disaster. First make the big deals, and then tell them about the
problems. I understand that the fault is really not NeXT's, but that
they were aware of it since months. Couldn't you have included this
to you well-known fact into NeXTanswers ??? Or were you afraid about
Intel ?
Now I and certainly many others have bought Intel824X0-based systems
and were reluctantly waiting for 3.3 to give you the final performance
boost with PCI. Nice surprise to hear now that we may have had bad
luck. Never mind. It's not NeXT's fault. Nice to hear this.
Luckily me 3.3 update hasn't arrived yet (well, this is only
Germany). In the meantime, I can check if I have a faulty stepping of
the chipset and in this case, tell my dealer that he should forget
about my update. If PCI support gives an in-fact performance loss, 3.3
would not be worth its money for me.
In this case I could well wait until 3.3 Developer is out and hope
that I get a 3.3 User+Developer academic bundle for $300. Probably a
better deal than two updates for $200 each.
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From: Karsten Heinze
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ?FTP clients and Sound.apps
Date: 10 Jan 1995 16:37:46 GMT
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3eud4q$mlr@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
References: <3etelc$9e2@wolfe.wimsey.com>
Keywords: ftp
In article <3etelc$9e2@wolfe.wimsey.com> Kevin Hiebert
<khiebert@wimsey.com> writes:
>
> Sorry to trouble you all, but is there a NeXT FTP client that lets you
> type in a pathname to get from (I'm not trying to avoid the GUI, but I
> have directories with invisible names that I want to get to, and
GatorFTP+
> 0.98a doesn't have an open panel that you can type into).
>
There is a fine FTP client: Yftp.app. You can find at
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/
Yftp.0.447.NIH.bs.tar.gz or other NeXT-FTP sites.
- Karsten
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Fax: +49/37296/15056
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From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 10 Jan 1995 04:08:40 -0800
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ettc8$10q@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <3ek1jj$t1@news2.delphi.com> <SAMURAI.95Jan8134320@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
Darcy BROCKBANK writes:
>The problem was that NeXT made a "conservative" driver that worked
>around a bug found in some chipsets. Not *all* chipsets. So, it's
>kinda like this: if my computer works 100% correctly, why should I
>suffer from a "workaround" meant to fix someone else's computer?
Don't. De-install the driver that disables write-posting, if your
computer works so well. There! Done! End of discussion!
For reference, my source here is
http://www.next.com//NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1823.htmld/1823.html,
in which NeXT explains the Intel824X0 "driver" and why it was
considered necessary. Synopsis: Intel had a bug in their PCI
architecture (rev A0) which causes crashes when write-posting is
enabled, so the 824X0 driver turns off write-posting, which slows down
the bus.
>1) Someone wrote a big hack in the first place.
Someone wrote a patch for flakey hardware. Happens all the time in
the real world.
>2) Nobody at NeXT bothered to tell us about the big hack, and why it was
> there.
Would have been nicer to have it more publicized, although if you look
in the RTF file for the driver in question you'll find it's pretty
clear that it's there to work around a bug in the PCI hardware.
>3) The hacker never bothered to see if the defective chipset was ever
>replaced by Intel (and it was long, long ago). They thus demonstrate
> a lack of understanding about the hardware they're developing for.
NeXT says the new chips starting shipping in September. This is
hardly long, long ago. Star Wars happened long, long ago, and that
wasn't September.
>4) NeXT "settles" for poor performance, *always*.
PCI machines have been flakey since their inception. I'd rather have a
machine that doesn't crash, myself. If you prefer crashing, remove
the patch.
>5) They didn't even really notice that there was a problem in the first
> place! It took some convincing...
The fact that they wrote the driver indicates they knew there was a
problem in the chipset. Obviously disabling a performance feature is
going to hurt performance. Ergo, they knew they had taken some of the
performance away. On the other hand, if you count a machine that
doesn't work as not performing, they really increased performance!
>If they had more of a performance-oriented philosophy at NeXT, then this
>would have never been deemed an adequate solution. It would have never
>made it out of the gate and onto the CD-ROM.
NeXT says they found out about the bug too late to include a switch
that turns OFF the patch on the newer rev of the chipset. You can
de-install the patch if you dislike it so much. The damn thing isn't
a driver, it just shuts off write-posting. If you trust
write-posting on your machine or don't care if it crashes once in a
while, remove the driver.
You've got the best of both worlds. There is a hardware problem on
some machines, and on those machines you can choose to configure your
system to be more reliable or faster. The default is more reliable,
which is a fine default.
So, stop complaining about this, already.
-W
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PNI 1.13
Keywords: pni, nextstep 3.3
Message-ID: <10727@cg-atla.UUCP>
Date: 10 Jan 95 12:48:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA
Does anybody know if TransSys PNI 1.13 runs under 3.3? There was
some question as to whether or not it would work, due to the addition
of a multicast feature.
thanx,
-peter
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From: flight@djingis (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 2.1 Date.app with 3.2/Moto ?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 16:59:31 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3euedj$7ou@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Somebody urges me to reinstall NeXT's old 2.1 Date.app on our
system. I tried to grab it from peanuts, but wasn't able to run it on
3.2/Moto. Is there anything comparable (I even don't know what it did
;-) available nowadays for free ?
Or could it be possible to recompile Date for 3.2 ?? :-)
Gregor
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From: Geoff Hopson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VideoConferencing via ISDN?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 16:45:46 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
Message-ID: <3eudjq$44o@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Quick question. What is available to allow video conferencing via ISDN
that'll run on NEXTSTEP/Intel?
Special hardware cards? Software? Suppliers (in UK, preferably)?
There are various cards/software about for Windoze, has anyone written any
drivers for these cards for NEXTSTEP?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
Geoff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger)
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Message-ID: <1995Jan10.180148.343@news.vanderbilt.edu>
Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu
Organization: a black NeXT
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 18:01:48 GMT
This whole discussion made me curios and I searched some PC-newsgroups for
more info about PCI performance. I didn't find too much but most posters
think that PCI is not mature yet and even some think that the VESA bus is
faster (on 486) ... (skip to the last paragraphs if you want)
>>enhanced IDE, and high speed serial ports. I am worried about using
>>PCI on a 486. Doesen't PCI use 64 bits while the 486 uses 32? Sounds
>>like a probable interface problem to me.
>
>Nope. Over 95% of the systems out there use a 32-bit PCI architecture. The
>newer 64-bit PCI bus is still around the corner. (I understand that a couple
>of vendors were showing off 64-bit PCI systems as Comdex Las-Vegas.)
>
>>Since PCI is presumably THE standard, the idea is good. But how well
>>does it work? Does anybody have experience with this board, or PCI
>>on a 486? Would the local buss version work better?
>
>I believe the VL-Bus would outperform PCI (by a slight margin) on a 486
>platform since it works directly with the CPU as opposed to PCI. The only
>advantage you'd have with PCI is the ability to port over your peripherals
>to a newer Pentium system (if you decide to upgrade).
>
>>I read here that the machines with both VESA and PCI slots uses a chipset
>>that is inefficient, so the PCI doesent work real well. Is this the case
>>with the M4Pi too? I will report on the chipset when I find out what it
>
>The inefficiency with VLB/PCI is most signficant on a Pentium. I'm presently
>using a Gigabyte GA-486IM board and it seems fairly fast - although my
>Micronics JX-30G (which is straight VLB) is slightly faster.
>
>Ken.
: I'm no expert...but in reading the Computer Shopper, the advice is go PCI
: if you plan on upgrading to Pentium.
: If you have an optimized system, then VLB is the way to go, its faster.
: Going PCI will let you use the those cards with the Pentiums.
: Check out the January Computer Shopper pages 306-318.
: Hope this helps some...
Maybe someone finds better references ...
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From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP
Date: 10 Jan 1995 23:53:37 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3ev6m1$2ig@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <D26I5w.1LC@ripley.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <D26I5w.1LC@ripley.org> ripley!johnb (John L Bergquist) writes:
>
> I'm looking to upgrade my internet connection from UUCP to TCP/IP
> and I'm looking for recommendations from unbiased sources.
>
> Morningstar PPP sells for approx $800 and comes with SLIP and CSLIP.
> I've also heard of TransSys dial-up IP, but I'm not sure how much
> it sells for. Any recommendations?
If you're looking for a solution without any costs you should try the PPP
package at ftp.duq.edu:/pub/next/ppp. Even if it's called to be in alpha stage
we are running it here without any problems.
Robert.
PS: You should fix your From header line.
--
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Computer Science Institute http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~stabl/
University of Munich
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D-80802 Muenchen FAX: +(49) 89 2180 6310
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From: mark@ccc1.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb
Date: 10 Jan 1995 17:07:44 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <3euet0$mmt@news.tamu.edu>
Does anyone know where you cann find the latest version of Omniweb?
My version seems to have bombed on me.
Thanks
mark@ccc1.tamu.edu
From: koen1830@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Usenet News / POP Client for NeXT ?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 23:06:43 GMT
Organization: mal franz, mal anna
Message-ID: <3ev3u3$e4@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <3er681$qj4@ns.cityscape.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Fcc: /u/k/Mailboxes/NNoutgoing.mbox/mbox
Apparently-To: <koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
In article <3er681$qj4@ns.cityscape.co.uk>,
Tony Jewell <tony@ns.cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> Secondly, has anyone produced either a POP3 or IMAP client for
>NeXT ? I'd like to avoid using sendmail as we already have a large server
>for our PCs here.
ftp.cs.orst.edu:/software/NeXT/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.2.NIH.bd.tar.gz
I'm still using an older version, because my POP server is POP1, I
think. But in general it did a pretty good job for a year. Highly
recommended!
--andreas
From: ian@candela.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Ian Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT BIBTEX: Help increasing bibtex entry limit to >100???
Date: 10 Jan 1995 18:27:59 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3eujjf$2igl@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
A person in our group is receiving an error while using bibtex on a NeXT
(black: 3.2). The problem has to do with the number of characters in his
"AUTHOR" string. He exceeds 100 characters and receives this error:
hefner> bibtex phddrv
This is BibTeX, C Version 0.99c
The top-level auxiliary file: phddrv.aux
A level-1 auxiliary file: chap1/chap1.aux
A level-1 auxiliary file: chap2/chap2.aux
The style file: jas99.bst
Database file #1: phd.bib
Warning--you've exceeded 100, the entry-string-size, for entry Wielicki90
while executing--line 1257 of file jas99.bst
*Please notify the bibstyle designer*
Warning--you've exceeded 100, the entry-string-size, for entry Wielicki90
while executing--line 1296 of file jas99.bst
*Please notify the bibstyle designer*
Warning--you've exceeded 100, the entry-string-size, for entry Kinne92
while executing--line 1296 of file jas99.bst
*Please notify the bibstyle designer*
(There were 3 warnings)
How do I change the bibtex entry limit to more than 100? Any help would be
greatly appreciated!
--
ian@candela.atmos.colostate.edu
Ian Wittmeyer
Dept of Atmos Sci
Colorado State University, Ft. Collins
(303) 491-8527
From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: when will 3.3 info on PCMCIA be in NeXTAnswers?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 19:36:54 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3eunkm$bni@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I was advised by my NS3.3 release notes to look for some mysterious
thing called a "socket adapter driver" for PCMCIA socket hardware in
NeXTAnswers and in the Hardware Compatibility Guide.
But --- 3.3 info is not yet in NeXTAnswers, beyond marketing stuff.
I would like to start using a PCMCIA modem in my notebook ASAP
but apparently I can't, because I lack this mysterious extra driver,
which does not come bundled with NS3.3.
What's going on?
Does anyone know?
Thank you,
patricia schwarz
patricia@cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: GUI app for extracting MACH segments
Message-ID: <1995Jan9.220605.290@precipice.fdn.fr>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <RDL.95Jan9082944@world.std.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 22:06:05 GMT
In article <RDL.95Jan9082944@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La
Ferla) writes:
> Anyone know of PD source for extracting MACH segments (ala segedit)?
>
> Robert
SegHoarker.app - better than ...
OBrowser.app
I have no ftp address... (found on a CD)
Hugues
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From: brette@trex.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Text-to-speach software?
Date: 10 Jan 1995 18:31:14 GMT
Organization: Zeitgeist
Message-ID: <3eujpi$c0o@kadath.zeitgeist.net>
Keywords: speach
Good day,
Is anyone aware of any text-to-speach software for black hardware? seems
like it is a natural sorta thing to have been developed somewhere!
If you know of any, please point me in the correct direction.
thanks
From: Colin Allen <callen@spot.colorado.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: System keeps crashing --HELP!
Date: 10 Jan 1995 20:20:10 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <3euq5r$bss@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
Originator: callen@spot.Colorado.EDU
I have been getting a series of workspace manager crashes and kernel
panics. I have reinstalled the entire OS from CD-ROM, and the problem
persists. The WM crashes leave DPS error messages in
/private/adm/messages, usually of the "Error writing to device"
category. After a WM crash it is sometimes impossible to login
without rebooting first. The kernel panics involve instuction
exceptions. Could this be a hardware problem?
These problems started yesterday afternoon. Prior to this the system
had been stable for 4 months.
System details: Pentium 66Mhz/Premiere PCI Motherboard; IBM 1 Gig SCSI
Disk; TEAC CD-ROM; 16 MB RAM; Diamond Stealth 64; NEXTSTEP 3.2.
All suggestions welcome!
Thanks.
Colin Allen
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Philosophy, Texas A&M Univ. _@_ EPO Biology, Univ. of Colorado
College Station TX 77843-4237 X Boulder CO 80309-0334
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From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC for NextStep??
Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:32:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ev8uu$5fh@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3ete7p$hbq@status>
In article <3ete7p$hbq@status> sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Steve
Brandon) writes:
> > You guys are sad. Grab ircII2.2.9 or 2.3.17beta from the ftp
> > sites and compile following the instructions. It will work fine.
>
> Well 'scuse us for trying to help out. If the versions you mention
> compile cleanly then thanks.
ircII2.2.9 does indeed compile cleanly. Thanks for the info.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: imdat@irex.de (Imdat Solak)
Subject: Password for IREX-Agent Demo-Release
Message-ID: <1995Jan10.221134.1018@irex.de>
Keywords: irex,agent,demo,username,password
Sender: imdat@irex.de
Organization: IREX Software AG, Hochreit 7, D-83329 Waging, Germany
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 22:11:33 MET
Hello,
I did a really big mistake which I try to fix by posting:
When I put IREX-Agent on the ftp-server ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de I
forgot to mention the public username and password for the demo release
of IREX Agent.
I had a lot of people asking me for it. Now here is it:
Username: agent
Password: agent
If you want to check IREX Agent just log in as "agent" into it and setup
new Users (if necessery).
Sorry for the inconvenience ;-)
Again, if you have any problems with the app just send me an e-mail
(imdat@irex.de) personally or to irex@irex.de
Imdat
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Imdat Solak * IREX Software AG * Hochreit 7 * D-83329 Waging * Germany
phone: +49 8681 694-0 * fax: +49 8681 694-200 * mail: imdat@irex.de
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Kermit file transfer broken in NS/I 3.3? SUMMARY
Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:33:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9501110633.AA04450@cantina.lanl.gov>
About a week ago I wrote
> I now no longer seem able to transfer files using
> Kermit. For example,
> C-Kermit>set file type bin
> C-Kermit>get TipTop-Supplement-1.5.tar.gz
> IT%T%T%T%^C...
> Something similar happens when I try an ascii transfer,
> but there I get a few blocks transferred before it stops
> and then eventually times out because of "too many NAKs".
>
> The most annoying part of all this is that this freezes
> up my modem, since it ends up being still in use by
> PID 156 (or so), which is owned by root. The only way
> I've found to get the modem back is to reboot.
>
> Does anybody see something similar? I am using
> C-Kermit 5A(188), 23 Nov 92, NeXT, Numeric: 501188, in
> collaboration with NXFAX, v.1.04
The best response I got (i.e., the one which sort of works for me) came from
Geert van Oldenborgh (gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl), who said version 5A(190),
4 Oct 94, cured a lot of problems for him.
It cures some for me, too. I no longer have the above problems in NS/I 3.3,
at least for binary file transfers from a Cray to my home NEXTSTEP machine.
I do still have timeouts as above when trying to transfer binary files
from a NeXT at the Lab (now also running 5A(190)). Or, from a VAX to home.
By the way, in the original posting I should have said that I never had
these problems in NS/I 3.2 or earlier.
The latest version of kermit on the ORST archive is 188, but one can get
v. 190 from ftp.cs.columbia.edu, under /pub/archives/kermit/ckuker.next.gz
of .../ckuker.next486.gz. After gunzip'ping, these have to be made
executable and renamed as kermit (the renaming being a matter of taste,
of course).
Dick Silbar
From: samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: The HP 712/80 computer, Mathematica and NEXTSTEP
Date: 11 Jan 1995 02:12:10 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Jan10211211@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3esc1m$4ab@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
In-reply-to: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov's message of 9 Jan 1995 22:06:46 GMT
Mathematica and NEXTSTEP applications:
> PowerPC, right? Is the 712/80 a good NEXTSTEP platform? What about the
> quality of the text and graphics on the 20" color monitor that HP sells?
> Finally, is there any advice you would offer concerning the purchase of
> peripherals for the 712/80?
Both of HP's premium monitors that I've seen (17 and 20" Trinitron
units) were beautiful. Very crisp. I had my doubts about looking at
1280x1024 on a 17" monitor, but no longer.
- darcy
--
(prog (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move eat) eat (senseFood move eat))
rotRight eat) (prog move (prog (prog eat (senseFood move rotRight) eat) loop)
rotRight)) (prog (senseFood (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move move) eat
(senseFood move eat)) rotRight eat) (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dstorey@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Daryl Storey)
Subject: Telnet app
Message-ID: <1995Jan11.004601.9244@sol.UVic.CA>
Keywords: Telnet, next
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:46:01 GMT
Does anyone know of a good Telnet app for NeXT? I am tired of using
terminal. Thanks.
Daryl Storey
dstorey@malahat.library.uvic.ca
From: samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 11 Jan 1995 02:54:49 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Jan10215449@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
<3ek1jj$t1@news2.delphi.com> <SAMURAI.95Jan8134320@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
<3ettc8$10q@yucca.omnigroup.com>
In-reply-to: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com's message of 10 Jan 1995 04:08:40 -0800
> Don't. De-install the driver that disables write-posting, if your
> computer works so well. There! Done! End of discussion!
Why do you now know about the problem and the solution? Because someone
brought it up. Do you think it's an isolated incident? If not, (and
you're not being realistic if you think NeXT only released one flaky
driver in their history) then there's nothing else to discuss. If so,
there is plenty to discuss.
For the record, there are hundreds of us that have been using PCI SCSI
all along, and I've not heard any problems. Anyone that bought a JCIS
system with PCI SCSI or a Dell OmniPlex has been using it. No corruption.
> For reference, my source here is
> http://www.next.com//NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1823.htmld/1823.html,
> in which NeXT explains the Intel824X0 "driver" and why it was
> considered necessary. Synopsis: Intel had a bug in their PCI
> architecture (rev A0) which causes crashes when write-posting is
> enabled, so the 824X0 driver turns off write-posting, which slows down
> the bus.
Really? Wow... that's also the first article in this thread.
> >1) Someone wrote a big hack in the first place.
> Someone wrote a patch for flakey hardware. Happens all the time in
> the real world.
Well, someone better write a patch to make all NEXTSTEP applications use
a software floating point library to work around the fact that "some"
chips of a certain family of processor have problems. Does that make the
patch acceptable? No, it's throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Nuking 50% of the performance of the expansion bus of a computer because
"some" computers have a problem with a chipset that isn't even
manufactured anymore is also throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
It's the attitude that's the problem.
> Would have been nicer to have it more publicized, although if you look
> in the RTF file for the driver in question you'll find it's pretty
> clear that it's there to work around a bug in the PCI hardware.
The documentation simply says "it is here to disable host-to-PCI write
posting". What the hell does that mean to the average, and
not-so-average user?
Does that say "also kills off bus performance?" It doesn't say squat
about bugs. I thought, what with all the talk about 3.3 being a
performance-lean-and-mean release that this driver was there to IMPROVE
performance. I didn't know it was there to hack around a non-existant
bug in my hardware.
> NeXT says the new chips starting shipping in September. This is
> hardly long, long ago. Star Wars happened long, long ago, and that
> wasn't September.
Well, then my system should have died long long ago too, because I
bought it before September, and have been using PCI SCSI with write
posting for a long time now, as have quite a few other people.
>>4) NeXT "settles" for poor performance, *always*.
> PCI machines have been flakey since their inception. I'd rather have a
> machine that doesn't crash, myself. If you prefer crashing, remove
> the patch.
If you want a machine that doesn't crash, try a slide rule. All other
machines crash. I've not had what I would consider a problem with
crashing since I upgraded my system BIOS. No crashes since.
>>5) They didn't even really notice that there was a problem in the first
>> place! It took some convincing...
> The fact that they wrote the driver indicates they knew there was a
> problem in the chipset. Obviously disabling a performance feature is
> going to hurt performance. Ergo, they knew they had taken some of the
> performance away. On the other hand, if you count a machine that
> doesn't work as not performing, they really increased performance!
Ergo, when you complain to them about video performance, along with a
system vendor, and some other users, they say, "Oh yes, we did it
because of XYZ and posted a NeXTanswer about it." Simple, yes? Then why
did they tell the first N people that the problem didn't exist, they had
never had any complaints, their biggest users benchmarked 3.3 and found
it to be much the same as 3.2, etc.?
When the problem exists, and they tell you it doesn't, then either:
1) They don't realize the problem exists.
- or -
2) They know, but are lying to you.
Of the two choices, I took the less offensive one, don't you think?
>>If they had more of a performance-oriented philosophy at NeXT, then this
>>would have never been deemed an adequate solution. It would have never
>>made it out of the gate and onto the CD-ROM.
> NeXT says they found out about the bug too late to include a switch
> that turns OFF the patch on the newer rev of the chipset. You can
> de-install the patch if you dislike it so much. The damn thing isn't
> a driver, it just shuts off write-posting. If you trust
> write-posting on your machine or don't care if it crashes once in a
> while, remove the driver.
NeXT found out about the problem when their users bashed them over the
head with it. They discovered that the source of the problem was their
own doing. They discovered that there was a better fix, once they found
out that the user base didn't accept the loss in performance. Don't make
them out to be heroic on this, because they're not. They're no more
heroic than Intel.
> You've got the best of both worlds. There is a hardware problem on
> some machines, and on those machines you can choose to configure your
> system to be more reliable or faster. The default is more reliable,
> which is a fine default.
Yeah, I have the best of both worlds: sucky video and sucky SCSI. Both
thanks to NEXTSTEP.
The default is a waste of users' money. I can accept spending more money
to lock-step with poorer performing software, but I draw the line at
walking backwards.
Only in this newsgroup will people maintain that killing a computer's
performance is a feature. Sigh.
> So, stop complaining about this, already.
I made a posting about the video sucking (which brought the problem and
the solution to light, for you to re-introduce here, and use as an
argument to have me "stop" complaining, in some kind of wierd logic) and
a posting about WHY this manifested itself, in hopes that next time
around it won't happen again. So, I'm told to "stop complaining
already." Wil, if I never complained, then people would continue to
suffer with the problem, no fixes would be known, and no better-fix
would ever be forthcoming.
- db
--
(prog (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move eat) eat (senseFood move eat))
rotRight eat) (prog move (prog (prog eat (senseFood move rotRight) eat) loop)
rotRight)) (prog (senseFood (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move move) eat
(senseFood move eat)) rotRight eat) (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move
From: samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 11 Jan 1995 02:29:48 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Jan10212948@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
<3ek1jj$t1@news2.delphi.com> <SAMURAI.95Jan8134320@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
<3eshdo$19k@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In-reply-to: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu's message of 9 Jan 1995 23:38:32 GMT
> I don't blame NeXT at all for being conservative. Slowness is not
> nice, data corruption should be avoided at all costs.
Well, then they should pull NSFIP althogether to prevent 486
users from Pentium floating point bugs.
> I thought the NeXT posting and Nextanswer (# 1823 ?) made it quite clear.
> The info on the various cuts of chips affected was recieved too late to
> make the software on the CD. A patched file will be supplied later. If
> you know what's going on and feel wise enough to fiddle, you may at your
> own risk.
Now, the only reason that a patch is available is because I complained
and complained loudly.
No other reason. They're not doing it out of the goodness of their
blessed hearts, it's because the user base made noise.
> I'm not entirely satisfied with the drivers either, but I think you are
> being overly dramatic. I'm not saying you are wrong, but given finite
> resources, it seems drivers that run reliably at 80% full speed are better
> than ones that run at 99% and cause all sorts of support issues, or worse
> yet large scale data corruption. The latter will put NeXT out of business
> very very fast.
Ah, you see, with all that object oriented technology that increase
development time 5 to 10 times (cf. Steve Jobs, NeXT Inc. CEO) and a
technological lead time that would let them send all their engineers on
a 4 year vacation and still be ahead (cf. Steve Jobs, NeXT Inc. CEO)
then they can make some decent drivers.
As long as people like you say that crappy drivers are acceptable, then
that's all you're going to have to use. And, we're not talking about 20%
here... we're talking about 50% performance hits. Even so, 20% is a huge
hit. Why would someone bother to buy a NeXTstation turbo? That's only
a 32% improvement! We're talking big numbers here, not numbers you can
ignore.
I don't want to use software developed by ANYONE that considers
releasing software that hurts 98% of the user base to help 2% of the
user base to be an adequate solution. That's not aiming at excellence.
Now, they're going to do what they should have done in the first place,
which is to build a CORRECT driver, rather than make a big hack. They
should have and could have done this in the first place. They didn't,
and they won't as long as they don't care and/or understand performance,
and as long as people make excuses for them.
Note that they didn't make any excuses on this issue. They're correcting
the problem now. If the philosophy was different there, then this would
never have been a problem (nor would there be problems in the future).
That's the real issue. The video thing is just an manifestation of it.
- darcy
--
(prog (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move eat) eat (senseFood move eat))
rotRight eat) (prog move (prog (prog eat (senseFood move rotRight) eat) loop)
rotRight)) (prog (senseFood (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move move) eat
(senseFood move eat)) rotRight eat) (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Text-to-speach software?
Date: 11 Jan 1995 07:57:53 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f0321$ngs@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3eujpi$c0o@kadath.zeitgeist.net>
In article <3eujpi$c0o@kadath.zeitgeist.net> brette@trex.org writes:
> Good day,
>
> Is anyone aware of any text-to-speach software for black hardware?
seems
> like it is a natural sorta thing to have been developed somewhere!
>
> If you know of any, please point me in the correct direction.
>
> thanks
There is a program called say (also rsynth).
--
Sven Droll __
______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
sdroll@wmax68.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/
/_ _/ _/
"...and I see your schwartz =====\_/=======
is as big as mine" (Dark Helmet) LOGOUT FASCISM!
___________________________________________________________________
NeXT-mail welcome ;-))
From: hern@barclay.advtech.uswest.com (Steve Herndon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sorting incoming mail
Date: 10 Jan 1995 00:31:58 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Message-ID: <3eskhu$c3e@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com>
Is it possible to automatically sort incoming mail into mail mbox's using
Mail.app? I'm subscribed to several different mailing lists and would like
to sort the mail from the various lists into the appropriate mbox's.
Thanks.
--
Steve Herndon E-mail: hern@advtech.uswest.com
US WEST Technologies, Phone: (303) 541-6354
4001 Discovery Drive, Suite 270
Boulder, CO. 80303
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X-terminal and NeXT machine
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Jan 1995 14:32:20 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <3euud4$7ud@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <3erb4c$lub@thot.u-strasbg.fr>
In article <3erb4c$lub@thot.u-strasbg.fr>,
David ELIZONDO <elizondo@rameau.u-strasbg.fr> wrote:
>
>Hello everybody,
> I have a NeXT station, to which I want to connect an X-terminal.
>Does anybody know if there is a program such as XDM which will allow me to
>connect the X-terminal to work as a remote NeXT terminal?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>--
> David Elizondo
> Universite Louis Pasteur
> 7 rue Rene Descartes
> 67084 Strasbourg Cedex
> FRANCE
> email elizondo@escher.u-strasbg.fr
You should probably ask this in one of the next news groups.
like comp.sys.next.software...
I think you are asking if you can run next software with its graphical
interface remotely? The only way to do this is if you have two machines
running next's software. There is no free implementation of next's
os, but some people are working on one.
You can of course remotely log onto a next and use say a vt100
terminal simulator.
If you are asking the other way, there are commercial implementations
of X-windows that run on nextstep. You can also use a next to telnet
over to a system and log in as a vt100.
-nick
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 11 Jan 1995 11:05:01 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3f0e0t$re6@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3eia2u$1h7@rosie.next.com> <3ejtvm$eno@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <SAMURAI.95Jan10215449@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: Wil Shipley wrote:
: > Don't. De-install the driver that disables write-posting, if your
: > computer works so well. There! Done! End of discussion!
: For the record, there are hundreds of us that have been using PCI SCSI
: all along, and I've not heard any problems. Anyone that bought a JCIS
: system with PCI SCSI or a Dell OmniPlex has been using it. No corruption.
I also run without the 824X0 driver for a few days now, and I had no problems
whatsoever. Two questions:
1. Could anyone explain what the bug really does, so one could estimate
the potential danger? I can live with FDIV, maybe I also can with A0
chips, but I'd like to know if I better look for a Plato upgrade.
2. Is there anyone who really had data corruption due to enabling write-
posting?
Thanks for additional information.
Markus.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // Navigator - System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
From: Don Brady <brady@cybernetics.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb gets trap
Date: 11 Jan 1995 07:31:44 GMT
Organization: Cybernetx, Inc.
Message-ID: <3f01h0$23b@jabba.cybernetics.net>
On NextStep Intel 3.3, I installed pppd and OmniWeb, latest versions
just gotten.
pppd works fine in that I can run telnet, ftp, etc., fine.
However, when I run OmniWeb, it starts up Ok and connects
ok at first to say www.next.com, but then traps if I click on
one or two URL's.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thois is on a Pentium with 40 meg. of memory. I am running
VGA on an ATI mach32 card (since I don't yet have a specific
driver.
The trap message is something like
Memory access exception (1,1,c205b52d)
Press r for reboot etc.
Thanks
From: dag@capkoga (Dennis Alfred Gaastra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Text-to-speach software?
Date: 11 Jan 1995 07:08:30 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f005e$dkl@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3eujpi$c0o@kadath.zeitgeist.net>
In article <3eujpi$c0o@kadath.zeitgeist.net> brette@trex.org writes:
> Good day,
>
> Is anyone aware of any text-to-speach software for black hardware?
seems
> like it is a natural sorta thing to have been developed somewhere!
>
> If you know of any, please point me in the correct direction.
>
> thanks
I have Trillium Sound Research Inc.'s BigMouth TextToSpeech V.1.07
software which operates from the Services menu, and has other handy
features. Unfortunately, the speaking is hard to understand until you get
used to it.
You can call David Hill at (403) 284-9278.
--
Dennis Gaastra <dag@capkoga.vnus.bc.ca> * NeXTMail accepted *
From: Gastown Webspace <gastown@xmission.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 11 Jan 1995 10:48:31 GMT
Organization: Wimsey Information Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f0d1v$kqv@wolfe.wimsey.com>
References: <3euet0$mmt@news.tamu.edu>
Mark Doucet writes
> Does anyone know where you cann find the latest version of Omniweb?
> My version seems to have bombed on me.
Ah, your Christmas present maybe. OmniWeb0.7.5.5 is at ftp.omnigroup.com
but you we are all eagerly anticipating 0.8 sometime soon.
--
Kevin Hiebert <gasmail@xmission.com> http://www.wimsey.com/~khiebert
MIME/NeXTmail accepted * PGP public key available upon request *
Visit Gastown Webspace http://www.xmission.com/~gastown
From: andrewh@joyrider.uk.sun.com ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mouse buttons and mouseX
Date: 11 Jan 1995 15:30:15 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems (UK)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f0ti7$j61@uk-usenet.uk.sun.com>
hi all,
This is probably a dumb question, but here goes.
How do i make mouseX use the right mouse button ?
Thats it, simple, huh ?
rgds Andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: Anybody have NS -> NS PPP working?
Message-ID: <D28MJ2.1nB@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 10:59:26 GMT
I'm having trouble getting PPP up between 2 NS (Intel) machines...I get
connected, and communication is definitely coming across the line (see
debug log of "calling" machine below), but the PPP link fails and I get
some messages in the /usr/adm/messages file that indicate that both sides
are unable to "see" the other over the link...
The configuration on the remote (calling) machine works fine when calling
an Internet provider but calling another NS machine running the same
PPP-2.2 fails....
Has anyone been able to do this, and could I get a copy of your scripts?
Thanks in advance!!
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
======================
CONFIG:
- Mux 1.5, 16550 UART's on both machines
- ZyXEL U1496E modems on both machines
- NXFax 1.04 on both machines
- Remote (calling) machine name/domain name/IP/netmask:
damonc / tor.hookup.net / 165.154.11.65 / 255.255.255.0
- Local (answering) machine name/domain name/IP/netmask:
damonc / aetnacan.com / 192.251.166.138 / 255.255.255.0
- /usr/adm/messages from both machines (identical):
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: PPP configuring Interface with:
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Name: ppp
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Type: PPP over generic TTY
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: MTU : 1500
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach:
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Unit 0... Successfully attached.
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Unit 1... Successfully attached.
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Packet Decompression will be done outside
interrupt handler
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: PPP-2.2 (NeXT LKS) Installed
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: LKS Version $Id: if_ppp.c,v 1.24 1994/11/21
05:10:15 perkins Exp $
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Bug reports to Steve Perkins
(perkins@cps.msu.edu)
============================
- "pppup" script on remote (calling) machine:
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 lcp-echo-interval 15 \
lcp-echo-failure 5 -crtscts defaultroute kdebug 17 debug modem -pap -chap
\
connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO
DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" "AT" "OK" ATL1M0DT8648062 TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT
"" ogin: ppp assword: ppp PPP' \
/dev/cufb 19200 lock
=============================
- "ppp.remote" script on local (answering) machine (triggered by use as
login script for user "ppp"):
#!/bin/csh
echo Starting PPP
/usr/bin/mesg n
/bin/stty -tostop litout
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd local kdebug 17 debug defaultroute bsdcomp 10,10
\
lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-failure 5 19200
==============================
RESULTS:
- Remote (calling) machine /usr/adm/ppp2.2.debug:
Dec 17 10:40:48 damonc pppd[1864]: Connected...
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufb
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:19 damonc pppd[1864]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 17 10:41:19 damonc pppd[1864]: Connection terminated.
===============================
- Local (answering) machine /usr/adm/ppp2.2.debug:
Dec 17 10:47:36 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:39 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:42 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:45 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:48 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:51 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:54 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:57 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:48:00 damonc pppd[6639]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 17 10:48:00 damonc pppd[6639]: Connection terminated.
DEBUG INFO:
- Remote (calling) machine /usr/adm/messages
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x0 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66 98
fe 66 98 fe 06
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18 e6
66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
==========================
- Local (answering) machine /usr/adm/messages
Dec 17 10:42:00 damonc su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Dec 17 10:43:00 damonc su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Dec 17 10:47:00 damonc last message repeated 2 times
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: ppp0: missing UI (0x3), got 0x1e
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 1c 1f 1f 0f 4f 1f 2f 3f ff fa
c9 ff 3f 3e 0e
Dec 17 10:47:34 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 0e 0e ef ff ff 1e 1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
1e 2e 3e fe f8
Dec 17 10:47:37 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 29 ee f9 3e 0e 0e 0e ef ff ff 1e
1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 2e 3e fe f8 29 ee f8 f9 f9 f8
98 ef ff 1e 1c
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 1e 0f 4f 1f 2f 3f ff fa c9 7b
9a
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 18 fb ff 8b 44 8b 8b 87 a7
8f 97 9f 65 fe
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:46 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 98 ef ff 1e 1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
1e fe fc e8 3e
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 2e db 3f 3e 0e 0e 0e ed ff ff 1f
1c 8b 8b 83 a3
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 8b 93 9f 65 fe cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 18 fb ff 8b 44 8b 8b 83 a7
8f 97 9f 65 fe
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 19 fe ff 1f 1c 1f 1f 0f a3
8b 93 9b 65 fa
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 98
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 99 ef ff 1f 1c 8b 8b 83 a3
8b 97 9f 65 fe
===================
From: shunfemd@rest.tasc.com (Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sorting incoming mail
Date: 11 Jan 1995 13:16:16 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <3f0ln0$akr@viper.is.rest.tasc.com>
References: <3eskhu$c3e@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com>
In article <3eskhu$c3e@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com>
hern@barclay.advtech.uswest.com (Steve Herndon) writes:
> Is it possible to automatically sort incoming mail into mail mbox's using
> Mail.app? I'm subscribed to several different mailing lists and would like
> to sort the mail from the various lists into the appropriate mbox's.
>
> Thanks.
It is possible possible to sort incoming mail based upon text in the subject
line or the sender name, with other possiblities that I have not explored yet.
To do so, you need two utilities:
1. procmail, a generic unix utility which reads a text file of your sorting
rules. It is available from: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
2. appnmail, part of a set of Next-specific utilites that append mail forwarded
from procmail into Next mailboxes. This is obtainable in the utility set
mailapp-utilities, from any of the major Next ftp sites.
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From: bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TCL on NeXT 3.2
Date: 11 Jan 1995 20:06:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado Supernet
Message-ID: <3f1dnq$p0v@news-2.csn.net>
I am trying to get TCL7.3 to compile on a NeXT 3.2 machine. I am getting
the following compile error:
nsfip1:135# make
cc -c -O -I. -I. -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DNO_DIRENT_H=1 -Dmode_t=int -Dpid_t=int
-DTCL_GENERIC_ONLY -DTCL_LIBRARY=\"/usr/local/lib/tcl\" tclGlob.c
tclGlob.c:203: undefined type, found `DIR'
Has anyone gotten this to compile on NS3.2?
Thanks
Brendan
From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica won't work!
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 15:38:34 CST
Organization: University of Missouri, Columbia
Message-ID: <17323DC01S86.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
References: <3ea4ei$ocs@ratatosk.uninett.no>
borrel@ludvigsen.hiof.no (Borre Ludvigsen) writes:
>Installed Mathematica 2.0 on Cube running NS 3.3 (3.2 as well for that
>matter). Everything runs along just fine until I try to evaluate an
>expression. 1+1 won't even work - but it works fine in a shell running
>math. It used to work under 3.0 (or was it 3.1?).
I can't quite remember for Mma 2.0, but it installed 3 scripts in
/usr/bin (by default): math, mathremote, mcc. See if those are there.
If not, there may be copies in the Mathematica/Install or bin directory.
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PNI 1.13
Date: 11 Jan 1995 08:25:48 -0600
Organization: Otherwise
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3f0ppc$784@ivy.bga.com>
References: <10727@cg-atla.uucp>
Keywords: pni, nextstep 3.3
In article <10727@cg-atla.uucp>, Peter Greis <greis@cg-atla.UUCP> wrote:
>Does anybody know if TransSys PNI 1.13 runs under 3.3? There was
>some question as to whether or not it would work, due to the addition
>of a multicast feature.
>
>thanx,
>
>-peter
>
>--
>Peter Greis greis@cg-atla.agfa.com ...!{decvax}!cg-atla!greis
>EQA Engineer peter@nextlectic.tiac.net <NeXTMail at home!>
>508 658-0200 x5988
>fax 657-8643 > Adobe Registered Developer <
I have had no problems with PNI on 3.3.
Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines
Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world.
bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands
(NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: michael@clxgraph.com (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: scitex.ct filter service
Date: 12 Jan 1995 01:30:18 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f20na$s1e@nntp.crl.com>
Keywords: filter scitex omniimage
Is anyone aware of a filter service for NS Intel that will read and
convert scitex.ct format a la OmniImage? Would this be a difficult format
to add, Mr Shipley?
OmniImage is so superior to any other image conversion program/service on
any platform both in terms of performance and capability. It would make my
day (and sell more NS systems in the pub market) if it also handled scitex
and open/save to -> .eps.
Additionally, is it possible to save .eps with jpeg compression? I believe
this is possible under acrobat (although it might just be some sort of
kludge) and would help us immensely when we need to create place-able
images for Adobe Illustrator/Mac.
Thanks in advance,
Michael Rutchik
Senior Graphic Designer Designer
The Clorox Company m&m Graphics
1221 Broadway michael@mmgraph.com
Oakland, CA 94612
michael@clxgraph.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tsch@iphase.com (Thomas Tschetter)
Subject: HP Scanjet IIc
Message-ID: <D27o8r.4Er@vitec.com>
Sender: usenet@vitec.com
Organization: Interphase, Dallas TX
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 22:38:51 GMT
I asked this a couple of days ago, but I'm not sure if it got out (we
moved and the servers were up and down)
I just acquired an HP scanjet IIc without any documentation. Can anyone
out there tell me what software I need to get started? I don't have
any software to control the scanner.
I'm also having problems setting the SCSI id (part of this may be due
to a busted id selector). Any pointers on this would be helpful also.
---
===============================================================================
Thomas J. Tschetter II
tsch@vitec.com
VITec, a Division of Connectware, an AMP Company (long enough?)
===============================================================================
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Latest version of Stuart.app?
Date: 11 Jan 1995 22:17:58 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f1lem$q5f@masala.cc.uh.edu>
Can someone point me to the latest version of stuart? Thanks....
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: bbs.america@loa.com (BBS AMERICA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Run a BBS? Want full Internet for $24.95/mo?
Message-ID: <8A1646B.06130000D0.uuout@loa.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 18:51:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Log On America, Inc.
Hello there! Right about now you're probably wondering just what it is
you've gone and downloaded. Well, first off, I'll be honest with you...
if you're not a SysOp, it's more than likely just something to upload
to various BBSes for the credit. But, if you're a SysOp then you have
heard all the rage about the Internet that's come up recently. I'll bet
you even considered looking into getting full access Internet for your
own system! Well, more than likely you eventually realized that full
access Internet was way too expensive for your BBS to support.... Until
now.
Log On America is now offering full access internet for any BBS in the
nation for the amazingly low price of $24.95 per month. That's right,
this is no joke... All you need is a BBS and at least 2 modems... It's
simple, you merely set up the transport door (included as CST54.ZIP) to
run from your BBS software. Once you contact us, we will give you the
LOCAL phone number that you will need and set up your account.
Here's how it works. Your users call your BBS as normal, when they run
the Cyberspace Transporter door, it will have your user wait while it dials
Log On America. Your user will then get full access to Telnet, FTP, Finger,
Whois, World Wide Web. Using the Telnet client, your users can access IRC,
MUDs, schools, libraries, and more! With FTP, millions of files from all
over the world become available! Easy-to-use hypertext interfaces make
surfing the Internet simple with Gopher and the World Wide Web! You can
find out information about both people and systems with the Finger and
Whois clients! For as much time as you care to allow them... Then, when
the user types EXIT, the software will drop carrier and return control to
your BBS -- without the user EVER SEEING Log On America. It's that easy!
For more information or to sign up, you can contact us by any of the
following:
Phone: (401)453-6100 M-F 9a-5p EST
Fax: (401)459-6222
BBS: (401)459-6200
E-Mail: david.paolo@loa.com
Mail: Log On America, Inc.
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Providence, RI 02903
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From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HP Scanjet IIc
Date: 11 Jan 1995 23:08:38 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3f1odm$5m1@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <D27o8r.4Er@vitec.com>
In article <D27o8r.4Er@vitec.com> tsch@iphase.com (Thomas Tschetter)
writes:
> I asked this a couple of days ago, but I'm not sure if it got out (we
> moved and the servers were up and down)
>
> I just acquired an HP scanjet IIc without any documentation. Can anyone
> out there tell me what software I need to get started? I don't have
> any software to control the scanner.
>
> I'm also having problems setting the SCSI id (part of this may be due
> to a busted id selector). Any pointers on this would be helpful also.
>
> ---
>
==========================================================================
=====
> Thomas J. Tschetter II
> tsch@vitec.com
>
> VITec, a Division of Connectware, an AMP Company (long enough?)
>
==========================================================================
=====
Both ScanTastic by Second Glance and ScanOmatic by interpersonal-computing
will drive the HP IIcx. Let me know if you'd like more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Text-to-speach software?
Date: 11 Jan 1995 23:11:17 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3f1oil$5qu@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3eujpi$c0o@kadath.zeitgeist.net>
In article <3eujpi$c0o@kadath.zeitgeist.net> brette@trex.org writes:
> Good day,
>
> Is anyone aware of any text-to-speach software for black hardware?
seems
> like it is a natural sorta thing to have been developed somewhere!
>
> If you know of any, please point me in the correct direction.
>
> thanks
Trillium Sound Research (ttsinfo@trillium.ab.ca) has a TextToSpeech Kit.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: PCMCIA adapter driver? What? Where?
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3essmd$ip3@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 00:07:13 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Jan12.000713.16979@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3essmd$ip3@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
>
> More importantly, can one install NS 3.3 onto a portable without an
> expansion adapter, just using the PCMCIA Adaptec/Trantor adapter? Has
> anyone succeeded?
I've installed 3.2 on the Talus machines using a QLogic SCSI PCMCIA
adaptor very easily, so I would imagine you should be able to do the same
with NeXT's 3.3 drivers :-).
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: claspac@jri.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: QuickTime, NEXTIME problems, animation, etc.
Date: 12 Jan 1995 07:51:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <3f2n1i$ldb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Dear Next Folks,
I just recently purchased the NeXTSTEP 3.3 release
and installed it and the NEXTIME package.
I am able to open and play AVI files from a Mac-CD.
That is neat, but I am not able to save the movies
as sequences of editable tiffs without an extraordinary
amount of work. This is something I would like to do.
Nor am I able to play copies of the AVI files from
my hard disk.
% cd
% cp "/CD/VIDEOS/CATEGORY/FILE.AVI;1" myfile.avi
The copy works fine, the two files are byte for byte
the same according to "cmp". But when I play the
CD version it works, and when I try to open the
hard-disk version the NEXTIME app says "Not a Movie File".
What is going on?
Any ideas?
Also - can anyone recommend a third-party product
similar to Adobe Premier which lets me produce
and convert animations in QuickTime, FLIC,
and other formats for under $500?
Thanks,
Will Russell
will@jri.ucsc.edu
408,459,2060
Computer Science Dept.
University of California,
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
--
Will Russell & Frank Jas
c/o Computer Science
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 18:51:00 -0400
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
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From: chari@tanya.ma.utexas.edu (Christopher M. Whatley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Doom or Doom II under softPC 4.0
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 11 Jan 1995 17:41:53 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3f15g1$qla@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Who has some information about running doom (I or II) under SoftPC 4.0
on Intel? Someone posted saying that they had done this.
Every time I run doom, it works for a few seconds and then the screen
goes to garbage. Also, I can't get sound to work.
For the few seconds that it does run, performance looks good.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
--
Chris Whatley
Pencom Systems
Ph: (708)-332-2116 home, (708) 938-1960 office
E-mail: whatley@math.utexas.edu, whatley@woodstock.abbott.com
From: amnon@adage.Berkeley.EDU (Amnon Silverstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Better ANSI/VT100 emulator?
Date: 11 Jan 1995 18:57:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f19ms$r7@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: vt100 vt220 ansi terminal emulation
I would like any and all of these features:
ANSI color (for example ESC[33m should turn on a color)
ANSI character graphics (Can I get these with a font? The NeXT's term emu does
not seem to let me choose fonts.)
Double height characters? (The next term doesn't seem to support this at all)
I've got an '040 cube running 3.0
Thanks very much for any advice!
-Amnon Silverstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Subject: HyperSense vs. CraftMan
Message-ID: <1995Jan11.190726.3164@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 19:07:26 GMT
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
I saw a couple of comments on HyperSense a couple of days ago and I have
been trying to find out if it is anything like CraftMan. If so, or not,
how is it similar or diffrent? Can anybody help?
Another posting mentioned using HyperSense for prototyping and then
converting it, into a working ObjC program, I presume. How difficult is
this? Over the years I have often used awk to rough out a program. I
have found, if I am careful, many awk scripts can be converted to C
without too much trouble, but it isn't exactly trivial. Are we talking
about the same thing or is it really easy?
The price seems to be right if it fits. I originally looked at CraftMan
because it looked like it might offer a fast prototyping, easy
conversion route, but that didn't seem to be the case. Of course, I am
also open to someone telling me how wrong I am about that!
If you can, I would appreciate replies to me@venetia.pgh.pa.us, since
that is where I would be running this.
Thanks.
--
Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: Don Brady <brady@cybernetics.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb gets trap
Date: 12 Jan 1995 05:17:03 GMT
Organization: Cybernetx, Inc.
Message-ID: <3f2e0f$63n@jabba.cybernetics.net>
References: <3f01h0$23b@jabba.cybernetics.net>
Earlier, I wrote:
> The trap message is something like
> Memory access exception (1,1,c205b52d)
>
I should add that when I study the error information I
sometimes see the message "Command was an unknown control
string (add-multicast)"
I do not know whether the problem might be in NSI 3.3,
OmniWeb, or pppd.
Thanks for any ideas.
From: NTCLT019@TWNMOE10.Edu.TW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does NS run on an AMD 486 DX2/80?
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 22:22:38 GMT
Organization: MOECC Computer Center, Taiwan
Message-ID: <1732413AB2S86.NTCLT019@TWNMOE10.Edu.TW>
References: <3eqjl6$5nl@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <3etge9$gtv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
In article <3etge9$gtv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
>John Kheit writes
>> Hi All,
>> I'm getting a 486 system and I can get an AMD 486 DX2/80 for the same
>> price as an Intel 486 DX2/66. If NEXTSTEP works with the AMD I'll
>> opt for the extra speed at no extra charge :-)
>> Thanks for the info. Later, John
> Similar decision for me, please post any answer!
NSFIP certainly can run using AMD 486DX2-80. My machine used an 3.3V
version and overclocked to 100MHz, and still runs quite well during
the last three weeks.
AMD 486DX2-80 gets a worse benchmark value than Intel OverDrive (
overclocked to 80MHz, not 66MHz), that's why I overrun it to 100MHz,
I also tried AMD DX4-100, also worse than Intel AMD DX4-100, but if
you consider the price, not a bad deal.
Phobos
<ntclt019@twnmoe10.edu.tw>
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software for running a business with NEXTSTEP
Date: 12 Jan 1995 14:41:13 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3f3f29$ksn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Fortunately, it looks as if my small business may be turning into a
medium/large business soon. Therefore, I need to acquire NEXTSTEP
software that will help me run the venture. The areas I need to focus in are
accounting
customer database
tax records
invoicing
financial planning
investments
word processing
graphic design software
other?
some ideas I have for software are:
DataPhile
Quantrix
OpenWrite or Write Up or Pages
Wet Paint
Virtuoso
but I am still missing accounting software, tax software, invoicing software,
financial software.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks for the help,
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman)
Subject: Re: QuickTime, NEXTIME problems, animation, etc.
Message-ID: <D2AsoA.Aq0@ncifcrf.gov>
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
References: <3f2n1i$ldb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 15:07:21 GMT
In article <3f2n1i$ldb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> claspac@jri.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell) writes:
>
>Nor am I able to play copies of the AVI files from
>my hard disk.
>
>% cd
>% cp "/CD/VIDEOS/CATEGORY/FILE.AVI;1" myfile.avi
>
>The copy works fine, the two files are byte for byte
>the same according to "cmp". But when I play the
>CD version it works, and when I try to open the
>hard-disk version the NEXTIME app says "Not a Movie File".
>
>What is going on?
>
>Any ideas?
>
Did you copy the resource fork over from the Mac CD? This is would be
a file of the name file.avi.#rsc# (if memory serves me right on the extension).
I've had this situation arise with quicktime files.
David Kelman
kelman@ncifcrf.gov (no NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: The HP 712/80 computer, Mathematica and NEXTSTEP
In-Reply-To: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov's message of 9 Jan 1995 22:06:46 GMT
Message-ID: <PFKEB.95Jan12074314@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <3esc1m$4ab@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 15:43:14 GMT
>>>>> On 9 Jan 1995 22:06:46 GMT, jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe) said:
> 1. To those who have purchased a 712/80, or have used it
> extensively: Are you satisfied with the performance of the computer?
I saw my application HippoDraw run on an HP 712/80 two months ago
in Heidelberg and it was very fast compared to my non-turbo
NeXTStation Color.
> 2. Regarding the use of the 712/80 to run Mathematica: As I wait
> for Mathematica to be ported to NEXTSTEP for HP PA-RISC, can I run
> Mathematica on HP-UX, and then switch over to NEXTSTEP to run my
> other favorite programs (either by logging out, rebooting, or
> powering down the machine)?
The CERN theory group runs the Mathematica kernel under HP/UX and
continue to use NeXTStep machines for the front-end, if I understood
correctly on my short visit there.
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Re: Neural NeXTworks?
Message-ID: <1995Jan11.215344.3798@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Organization: Westwerk
References: <3eq8ac$32a@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 21:53:44 GMT
In article <3eq8ac$32a@nntp.Stanford.EDU> keesing@ants.Stanford.EDU (Ron
Keesing) writes:
>
> Howdy, does anyone have info on neural network systems running on
> NeXTStep?
>
Sure, you can use the SNNS-Package from the university of Stuttgart, Germany.
Here's an excerpt from the package description
snip ************************************************************************
SNNS (Stuttgart Neural Network Simulator) is a software simulator for
neural networks on Unix workstations developed at the Institute for
Parallel and Distributed High Performance Systems (IPVR) at the
University of Stuttgart. The goal of the SNNS project is to create an
efficient and flexible simulation environment for research on and
application of neural nets.
The SNNS simulator consists of two main components:
1) simultor kernel written in C
2) graphical user interface under X11R4 or X11R5
The simulator kernel operates on the internal network data structures
of the neural nets and performs all operations of learning and recall.
It can also be used without the other parts as a C program embedded in
custom applications. It supports arbitrary network topologies and,
like RCS, supports the concept of sites. SNNS can be extended by the
user with user defined activation functions, output functions, site
functions and learning procedures, which are written as simple C
programs and linked to the simulator kernel.
Currently the following network architectures and learning procedures
are included:
* Backpropagation (BP) for feedforward networks
vanilla (online) BP
BP with momentum term and flat spot elimination
batch BP
* Counterpropagation,
* Quickprop
* Backpercolation 1
* RProp
* Generalized radial basis functions (RBF)
* ART1
* ART2
* ARTMAP
* Cascade Correlation
* Recurrent Cascade Correlation
* Dynamic LVQ
* Backpropagation through time (for recurrent networks)
* Quickprop through time (for recurrent networks)
* Self-organizing maps (Kohonen maps)
* TDNN (time-delay networks) with Backpropagation
* Jordan networks
* Elman networks and extended hierarchical Elman networks
* Associative Memory
The graphical user interface XGUI (X Graphical User Interface), built
on top of the kernel, gives a 2D and a 3D graphical representation of
the neural networks and controls the kernel during the simulation run.
In addition, the 2D user interface has an integrated network editor
which can be used to directly create, manipulate and visualize neural
nets in various ways.
snip ************************************************************************
To run SNNS on NEXTSTEP, you can e.g. use MouseX as no-cost X-Windows emulator.
You have to make some minor modifications in the makefile, mostly entering new
paths to libraries. I managed to compile version 3.1 about one year ago and it
runs fine and stable. The developers of SNNS don't support the NEXTSTEP
platform officially but they're helpful if you want to use SNNS/NS.
I also know several other NN-researchers who are working with SNNS on NEXTSTEP.
--
Michael
----------------------------------------------------------
Dipl.-Phys. Michael Burgstahler -> mburg@westwerk.cube.de
(NeXTmail welcome)
General Manager -> Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
NEXTSTEP-driven company
----------------------------------------------------------
R&D loc -> University of Stuttgart
2nd Dpt. of Theoretical Physics
2t loc -> Forststrasse 163/1 * 70193 Stuttgart * GERMANY
Phone +49 (0)711/638360 * Fax +49 (0)711/634696
----------------------------------------------------------
--
Thanks,
Michael
----------------------------------------------------------
Dipl.-Phys. Michael Burgstahler -> mburg@westwerk.cube.de
(NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Re: Neural NeXTworks?
Message-ID: <1995Jan11.215753.3875@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Organization: Westwerk
References: <3eq8ac$32a@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 21:57:53 GMT
Whoops, I forgot to mention where the SNNS-package can be downloaded:
>The SNNS simulator can be obtained via anonymous ftp from host
>
> ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (129.69.211.2)
>
>in the subdirectory /pub/SNNS
>as file
> SNNSv3.2.tar.Z (1.99 MB)
>
I think, they're now in version 3.3
--
Thanks,
Michael
----------------------------------------------------------
Dipl.-Phys. Michael Burgstahler -> mburg@westwerk.cube.de
(NeXTmail welcome)
General Manager -> Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
NEXTSTEP-driven company
----------------------------------------------------------
R&D loc -> University of Stuttgart
2nd Dpt. of Theoretical Physics
2t loc -> Forststrasse 163/1 * 70193 Stuttgart * GERMANY
Phone +49 (0)711/638360 * Fax +49 (0)711/634696
----------------------------------------------------------
--
Thanks,
Michael
----------------------------------------------------------
Dipl.-Phys. Michael Burgstahler -> mburg@westwerk.cube.de
(NeXTmail welcome)
From: Robert Dennis <rad@cse.ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: InterPrint question
Date: 12 Jan 1995 23:05:07 GMT
Organization: CRESST/ UCLA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f4cj3$blg@saba.info.ucla.edu>
I saw someone selling a copy of InterPrint in comp.sys.next.marketplace
several months
ago. I am curious about what it can do and who carries it. I want to be
able to make
available a color NeXT BJ printer as well as the NeXT Laser Printer
(both connected to a Station) to Mac users through
their choosers. All Macs are on ethernet. If InterPrint won't do this
does anyone know what
will?
All ideas and information are appreciated.
Specifically the contact information for
InterPrint.
many thanks
I will summaries if their is sufficient interest.
Robert Dennis
CRESST UCLA
rad@cse.ucla.edu
From: sbeck@julia (Stephen David Beck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SUBMISSION: Csnd.app v1.5 for NEXTSTEP
Date: 12 Jan 1995 16:57:33 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University InterNetNews Site
Message-ID: <3f3n1t$24dh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
SUBMISSION - Csnd.app v1.5beta
Csnd.app v1.5 is a graphic interface to Csound for NEXTSTEP computers.
It comes bundled with a compiled binary for black hardware only. There
is a compiled binary for intel hardware available from ftp.cs.orst.edu.
This is an upgrade to the previously released version of Csnd.app, and
contains a few new features:
* Support of AIFF formated soundfiles (playback, file management, and
analysis functions all supported)
* Improved Preferences panel with support for midifile editors (it does
not contain an editor, but will call one with a double-click)
support for panel-based directory searches, and improved interface
* Writes score.srt to /tmp
* MAB application for use on Intel and Black hardware
Csnd.app was developed under NS 3.2 and requires 3.2 to run. This is
strictly a beta version. While most new components have been tested,
my students are still on break and haven't had their licks at it. If
you find any bugs, please let me know, and I'll fix it.
Csnd.app is available by anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.orst.edu. It was
posted to /pub/next/submissions/Csnd.app.v1.5* and will probably migrate
to /pub/next/binaries/sound. Please read the README file for instructions.
The compiled binary for intel is available from:
ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/sound
Stephen David Beck
School of Music
Louisiana State University
Baton Rouge, LA 70803-2504
sbeck@math.lsu.edu
From: biff@firstclass.unb.ca (Thomas Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GUI Testing
Date: 12 Jan 1995 15:50:16 GMT
Organization: FirstClass Systems P.D.C.
Message-ID: <3f3j3o$or3@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca>
Howdy!
Does anyone in this group know where I can
get ANY information about GUI Testing? I've
come across lots of information on GUIs and
on interfaces in general, but I've found
nothing on procedures and standards for GUI
Testing.
Thanks in advance.
Biff
Silence says it all.
From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PCMCIA modem card drivers needed, not supplied
Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:15:01 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3f2ac5$dki@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Someone from ask_NeXT told me that the bus and socket hardware drivers
both come with NS3.3, but that each modem still needs a "flavor-specific"
card driver, which NeXT has no plans to support.
Is this supposed to be, like, a business opportunity for those who
know how to write drivers (which excludes me for sure)?
Anyone have a clue to spare? :-)
-patricia
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Guess: /dev/cufb is broken. [Q]: fix?
Date: 12 Jan 1995 20:54:44 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3f512k$3p9@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
it just happened again...
I've been using Mux_V1.5 (an all around respectable fix for NeXT's slow
serial ports, thanks Mark!) with transSys PNI/SLIP as my connectivity
solution. But now and then, for whatever rude reason you care to imagine,
I crash.
The funny thing is ... about 60% of the time, after the fsck/reboot
/dev/cufb is broken. That means any use of /dev/cufb with Mux installed
will hang the system.
So its back to using NeXT's SerialPorts :-( unless I can figure how to
reinstall Mux )?
Belive me, I've tried, but reinstalling Mux wont make it work with /dev/cufb
even when SerialPorts does.
Whats going on? I've run `diff' on every system file I can think of.
I can't find what file got "hit". It doesn't help that `fsck' doesn't log
its actions anywhere? You'd think output from `fsck' would show up somewhere
in /usr/adm? ( lost+found is empty )
Anyway, is it really going to be neccessary to reinstall from scatch to
get Mux working again? Just what are the _neccessary_ system files? Is
there a way to overlay them from the distribution CD without running the
installation floppy (***hateful idea***)? I've looked at the MAKEDEV script
in /dev and noticed that the major and minor device numbers don't agree.
I've thought that maybe I need to re`mknod' the serial devices, but
I'm confused about what the major and minor numbers should be.
Maybe I should just wait for the NeXT's new serial driver. Is NeXT still
providing driver support for 3.2?
standing tall in deep doo-doo
jCandlish
.
From: gerdes@ibm.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: 13 Jan 1995 06:41:57 GMT
Organization: UCLA Economics
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f57bl$vki@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
Keywords: LaTeX TeX
After installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 for the Motorola from scratch (new hard
disk) I am disappointed to discover that LaTeX is no longer included in
the software distribution, although TeX still is. It came with 3.2 so
what has changed? Anyone know about how to get LaTeX2e that will
run under 3.3 on a NeXTcube?
Geoff Gerdes
e-mail: gerdes@nicco.sscnet.ucla.edu
nextmail: gerdes@jevons.sscnet.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dchan@netcom.com (Derek Chan)
Subject: OmniWeb and term
Message-ID: <dchanD2B4D4.Kvu@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 19:19:52 GMT
Has anyone gotten OmniWeb to work with term? I'm able to run term on my
netcom account but I can't seem to get OmniWeb to work over it I think my
tredir statements are correct. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Best regards,
Derek
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GUI Testing
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 12:11:40 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950113120302.20274C-100000@hphalle10i.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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On 12 Jan 1995, Thomas Mitchell wrote:
> Does anyone in this group know where I can
> get ANY information about GUI Testing? I've
> come across lots of information on GUIs and
> on interfaces in general, but I've found
> nothing on procedures and standards for GUI
> Testing.
>
You really think about GUI testing? Therefore you already did the design
(which is the more complicated part)?
There are several tools out there (my project manager told me about some
perchusable from DEC (digital) ) which all fit in the category:
maintainance.
The tools do the following: record user action and desired reply of the
software. This means: a press on button 'A' has to produce effect 'a'.
The software is capable to record any effect 'a' (the effect has not to
be visible. It may be a function return value, a global data change, an
opened window etc.) You have to teach the tool all possible input events.
The tool will record all these events and report any differences to the
standards you've set on further releases. So you can go sure your
software does exactly the same with every further release.
If you think about GUI design, there are several GUI-guidelines out
there, which provide you with information on how information is
presented in a good GUI. Reply to get a source.
CU, Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 12:16:59 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950113121232.20274D-100000@hphalle10i.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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On 13 Jan 1995 gerdes@ibm.net wrote:
> After installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 for the Motorola from scratch (new hard
> disk) I am disappointed to discover that LaTeX is no longer included in
> the software distribution, although TeX still is. It came with 3.2 so
> what has changed? Anyone know about how to get LaTeX2e that will
> run under 3.3 on a NeXTcube?
LaTeX2e is not a binary program. It's a makro package written for TeX.
You can use LaTeX on every platform running TeX.
You can receive a copy of LaTeX2e nearly on every FTP server. E.g. our
archiv in Munich is really well sorted:
ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de: /pub/comp/typesetting/tex/macros/LateX2e/
Hope this helps,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Re: Software for running a business with NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D2C2x5.8x7@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
References: <3f3f29$ksn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 07:46:15 GMT
In article <3f3f29$ksn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> Fortunately, it looks as if my small business may be turning into a
> medium/large business soon. Therefore, I need to acquire NEXTSTEP
> software that will help me run the venture. The areas I need to focus
in are
>
> accounting
Try Quantaflow, we are using it for our business (portfolio manager). It
works fine and they promised a new version for next month. They also
promised us a multi-currency version. It is client-server, multi-user,
multi-architecture and has very strong reporting capabilities.
> customer database
> tax records
> invoicing
I never saw it be heard of an app from Hutchinson Av. Software...
> financial planning
> investments
> word processing
I use Frame, but I still didn't decide what would be used for the rest of
the company (a bit expensive to put on every desk)...
> graphic design software
> other?
>
>
> some ideas I have for software are:
>
> DataPhile
> Quantrix
> OpenWrite or Write Up or Pages
> Wet Paint
> Virtuoso
>
> but I am still missing accounting software, tax software, invoicing
software,
> financial software.
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> Thanks for the help,
> Eric
>
>
Alexander Lamb
MIS Manager
Expert Quantitative Trading
Geneva / Switzerland
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nobody is perfect (Re: PCI Video Performance explained)
Date: 13 Jan 1995 02:08:20 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f4nak$jq1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995Jan9.043858.25536@news.media.mit.edu>
wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> [...skipping...] Given that, though, I've always been a pretty
> rabid NEXTSTEP advocate; enough so that I bore *myself* sometimes.
[skipping more]
> anyway...
>
> the point is that many of us: the techs, the geeks, the back room
> hackers - us *unpaid advocates* - are getting tired of trying to
> tell NeXT things (suggestions, bug reports, primal screaming)
> and feeling like we're going hoarse and are already deaf.
While I'm not inclined to beat up on NeXT every chance I get,
the above paragraph certainly does ring true to me...
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Guess: /dev/cufb is broken. [Q]: fix?
Date: 13 Jan 1995 10:54:10 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3f5m4i$14jn@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3f512k$3p9@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
John Boyd Candlish (whizer@cs.uoregon.edu) wrote:
: I've been using Mux_V1.5 (an all around respectable fix for NeXT's slow
: serial ports, thanks Mark!) with transSys PNI/SLIP as my connectivity
: solution. But now and then, for whatever rude reason you care to imagine,
: I crash.
: The funny thing is ... about 60% of the time, after the fsck/reboot
: /dev/cufb is broken. That means any use of /dev/cufb with Mux installed
: will hang the system.
A properly configured Mux driver never breaks /dev/cufb. It works for
several hundred people. Carefully look at the Instance0.tables for
various configurations of Mux in the Mux distribution, choose the one that
fits your system (e.g. with serial mouse / with bus mouse) and retry.
: So its back to using NeXT's SerialPorts :-( unless I can figure how to
: reinstall Mux )?
If everything else fails, describe your COM port usage and I send you an
Instance0.table for Mux and one for the original serial driver, if you need
the latter for a serial mouse.
Regards,
Markus.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // Navigator - System administration & Consulting
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: Questions about NS 3.3 Motorola
Message-ID: <1995Jan13.003530.11692@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 00:35:30 GMT
Few Questions:
NS 3.3 for Motorola is only the USER part for $200US.
Will the DEVELOPER part cost another $200?
Will 3.2 Developer software work with 3.3 USER?
NS 3.2 upgrade was considerably cheaper if bought early
Will I pay more if I wait for 3.3 DEVELOPER?
What if I wait for 4.0, is it still cheaper to
by each upgrade as soon as it arrives?
What, if any, extra Printer Drivers come with 3.3 Black?
Thanks,
Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:14:03 -0800
From: Peter Langston <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Message-ID: <9501130014.AA21467@pud>
Subject: dwrites for Edit.app -- print margins
dwrite Edit NXMargins "0 0 0 0"
?
Nope, that didn't do it. So I'll ask: is there a way to get Edit.app to
use smaller margins than it does by default? The unnecessarily wide (1") top
and bottom margins that it uses for printing are a real pain, especially when
you're trying to squeeze a lot of rtf onto a page. Any ideas?
---------- Peter Langston -- psl@acm.org -- Seattle, WA ----------
From: jnstibor@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Joern Stiborsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BUTT-HEAD Program now available on ftp-server!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 11:13:42 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <3f5n96Ehec@uni-erlangen.de>
Hi!
The Butt-Head program is now put up on the ftp-server:
ftp.cs.orst.edu
in the directory
/software/NeXT/binaries/misc
files:
butt-head.1.0.NI.tar.gz
butt-head.README
Have a lot of fun with the program and let me know what you think
of this new product.
Bye.
From: keitho@ix.netcom.com (Keith Ouellette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Video Conferencing Software
Date: 13 Jan 1995 03:48:54 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f4t76$m51@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Is there a NeXT software package that allows users to have video conferences from their desktop??
And possibly file sharing during the conference??
-keith-
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 broke my Mathematica!
Date: 12 Jan 1995 19:58:20 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3f4tos$3nu@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
References: <3eqimt$4hm@jujube.cs.umd.edu> <3erqn2$9a8@nntp.stanford.edu>
< guesses and comments about MMA's protection mechanism >
I too have been bitten by MMA's protection scheme. And for the slimmest
(silliest) of reasons. Beliving that the mach kernel had become corrupted
by a crashing rpc,( any access to /dev/cufb would hang the system ) I
copied `mach_kernel' from the distribution CD to root. That was enough
to violate mathematica! So, its chastity system must also be accounting
i-nodes of system files.
I can't fault Wolfram for wanting to protect their intellectual property.
I only wish that they had put as much effort into validation for
reinstallation as they have for registation. After all, registation is
done automatically and only has about 1hr turn around time(YMMV), but
validation for reinstallation requires a FAXED document to go round
trip. Couldn't this be replaced by some sort of public key e-mail
system. It would also be nice it the cat had a few lives, or perhaps
had a lingering death.
I crash my system more than a little, so I'd like to to hear from someone
who has found a solution to keeping an archival copy of mathmatica, or is
it neccessary to have a separate license for the backup copy?
jCandlish
.
From: mickey@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TCL on NeXT 3.2
Date: 12 Jan 1995 12:07:51 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc. (Earth offices)
Sender: mickey@shiva.UU.NET
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f3nl7$51m@shiva.UU.NET>
References: <3f1dnq$p0v@news-2.csn.net>
In article <3f1dnq$p0v@news-2.csn.net>, bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth) writes:
>I am trying to get TCL7.3 to compile on a NeXT 3.2 machine. I am getting
>the following compile error:
>
>nsfip1:135# make
>cc -c -O -I. -I. -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DNO_DIRENT_H=1 -Dmode_t=int -Dpid_t=int
>-DTCL_GENERIC_ONLY -DTCL_LIBRARY=\"/usr/local/lib/tcl\" tclGlob.c
>tclGlob.c:203: undefined type, found `DIR'
>
>Has anyone gotten this to compile on NS3.2?
>
>Thanks
>Brendan
>
For that matter, does anyone have WISH for NS 3.2? I can't seem to find
it. I have an older version of Tcl/Tk installed, but no wish.
--
------
Mickey Lasky mickey@uunet.uu.net
Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
dokk@choam.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
"That's it! I need someone who will cook and clean for me. I need a wife!"
-- Catherine Stanton
From: hsu@hsunext.physics.yale.edu (Stephen Hsu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fax/modem software for Intel NeXT system
Date: 12 Jan 1995 21:34:21 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Message-ID: <3f478u$shf@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Can anyone recommend fax/modem software for use
on an Intel pentium box runnings NeXTstep?
Thanks.
Stephen Hsu
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scorefile player out there?
Date: 13 Jan 1995 17:21:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3f6crg$rdp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello again!
Just had a quick question -- way back when in 1991 when I was running NS
2.1, there was a neat application which played scorefile -- if I remember
right, it showed the score itself, and you were able to play (and I think
edit) scores with ease!
Now today, while searching the archives for this neat little app, I found
Autoscore, which performs the same basic function -- playing a score -- but
it will ONLY play after a particular idle time, the idea being that people
walking by in a store would be awed by this computer playing scores -- a
selling point. I would prefer to be able to play scores AT WILL, not waiting
for an idle time. :)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions and clues! Either posting to this group
or e-mailing me at night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (NeXTMail welcome!)
with possible solutions is fine.
Thanks,
John
--
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | Any philosophy that can be
4th Year Computer Engineering | put in a nutshell belongs
Case Western Reserve Univ. | there.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Sydney J. Harris
______________________________|_____________________________
Happiness isn't something you experience; it's something you
remember.
-- Oscar Levant
____________________________________________________________
From: drinke@wc187.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3f6ct7$q5e@mordred.gatech.edu>
Control: cancel <3f6ct7$q5e@mordred.gatech.edu>
Date: 13 Jan 1995 17:23:55 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3f6cvb$q5e@mordred.gatech.edu>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: drinke@wc187.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Exporting printer to mixed ntwork
Date: 13 Jan 1995 17:25:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3f6d32$q5e@mordred.gatech.edu>
I have a NeXT that is connected via ethernet to a mixed network. As far as
I know, I'm the *only* NeXT machine on this network.
My question is: Can I export my local printer (NeXT 400dpi printer) to
other hosts in my domain even though they are not NeXT's?? Specifically, I
would love to be able to export to the AppleTalk Zone that is set up in this
network.
Running NS 3.0 on a NeXT Cube (68040). 10 Base T ethernet connection.
Thanks,
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
From: lloyd@goldhost.lscf.ucsb.edu (Lloyd Goldwasser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Seeking info about MathGraph
Date: 13 Jan 1995 19:23:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Message-ID: <3f6k05$ask@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu>
Does anyone have any information about the availability of MathGraph, an
object palette for graphical display? It's by Dr. Michael J. Mezzino,
Jr., but my inquiry to mezzino@gauss.cl.uh.edu didn't get a response.
Thanks,
Lloyd Goldwasser
goldwass@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu
From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCI Video Performance explained
Date: 13 Jan 1995 23:28:59 GMT
Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses
Message-ID: <3f72br$k8m@news.xs4all.nl>
References: <3f0e0t$re6@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3f0e0t$re6@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
> : Wil Shipley wrote:
> : > Don't. De-install the driver that disables write-posting, if your
> : > computer works so well. There! Done! End of discussion!
>
Why do we need a 824X0 driver? If you have an A0 chip, disable
the write-posting in the BIOS setup. I have seen at least five
different PCI boards. Only one of them, the Intel Plato, doesn't
allow you to disable the write-posting. But off course Intel doesn't
sell boards with this A0 bug :-)
hugob
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: B&W's contact info
Date: 13 Jan 1995 17:02:35 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3f6bnb$3ha@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Hello there:
I'm trying to reach B&W Software (maker of NXFax) but I can't seem to find
any contact info at all. If you have this info (e-mail preferrable),
please e-mail me directly.
Thanks,
Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Advice wanted: NS 3.0 -> 3.2/3.3 upgrade
Message-ID: <D2D1GK.59s@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 20:12:19 GMT
I've been using NS 3.0 (user+developer) thinking I could get by without the
hassles of an upgrade -- rebuilding my disk, finding all the things that used
to work, but don't any more, etc. But now I find that a significant number
of 3.1+ apps no longer work or work as well under 3.0, so I'm getting ready
to upgrade.
I have a black colorstation with 1G external hd, but only about 240Mb free.
I'm looking for advice on whether to upgrade to 3.3 or to look for a copy of
3.2 on the resale market. Are there significant differences in size between
3.2 and 3.3? New features in 3.3 I'd really miss? New bugs in 3.3 I'd be
happy to avoid?
--
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York University Voice: 416 736 5118
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman)
Subject: Re: [Q: ]News browsing in OmniWeb ?
Message-ID: <1995Jan13.201614.1227@objectario.com>
Sender: shayman@objectario.com
Organization: Steve Hayman + Associates / NeXTSTEP Consulting / Toronto
References: <1995Jan5.181428.8756@trimark.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 20:16:14 GMT
In article <1995Jan5.181428.8756@trimark.com> pchien@Trimark.com writes:
> Hello everyone, I am new to HTML, today I am trying to create a anchor to
> news use '<a href="news:comp.sys.next.announce">NeXT announce' and I can
> get the article summary, but when I click on one I got a message:
>
> '<H1>News error</H1> No article by message-id
> <3efrar$2lq@digifix.digifix.com>, sorry. '
Ping and I explored this a bit and the problem is that their
nntp daemon isn't aware that the news history database on their
machine is stored in "dbz" format - the daemon was assuming "dbm" format.
So when OmniWeb attempted to retrieve an article via
its message id, the remote nntp server wasn't able to look this
up in its database properly.
Recompiling nntpd to use dbz fixes this problem.
I wonder who the bonehead was that set up their nntpd daemon
this way. (Oh, OK, it was me in a previous life.)
Steve
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Steve_Hayman@NeXT.com || (416) 769-8995
From: a6213gri@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Terminal Emulator with 3270 Capability
Date: 13 Jan 1995 21:45:36 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <3f6sa0$1ju@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
Does anybody know of a terminal emulator that can do with 3270 over async
lines-any info would be appreciated. Greetings,
Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Guess: /dev/cufb is broken. [Q]: fix?
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 21:34:59 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jan13.213459.8708@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
References: <3f512k$3p9@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish) writes:
>it just happened again...
>
>I've been using Mux_V1.5 (an all around respectable fix for NeXT's slow
>serial ports, thanks Mark!) with transSys PNI/SLIP as my connectivity
>solution. But now and then, for whatever rude reason you care to imagine,
>I crash.
This may be a result of the incorrect definition in the include files for
some process structures. V1.5z (to be delivered soon as V1.6 once I have
some confidence with it) addresses this issue. The fix would be to
recompile Mux using the POSIX_KERN variable to use the correct structures from
the include files for the Kernel ...
>Maybe I should just wait for the NeXT's new serial driver. Is NeXT still
>providing driver support for 3.2?
;-/ They expect to provide a new serial driver by second quarter 1995. I don't
expect it to handle multiport solutions, but I do expect that it will
reduce the need for the Mux driver for the regular users.
Ciao -- Mark
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adding Fonts to NS
Date: 13 Jan 1995 22:32:39 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3f6v27$kb1@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <BYER.95Jan5122519@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
In article <BYER.95Jan5122519@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes:
:
:Tom Gall writes:
:
:Tom> Well call me stupid! I picked up a number of fonts for NeXTSTEP the
:Tom> other day, but I've never run across any directions for
installation. I
:Tom> took a quick search through the manuals but didn't find anything.
:
:/NextLibrary/Fonts:/LocalLibrary/Fonts:~/Library/Fonts
:
:If the fonts isn't a NEXTSTEP font, there's a little more work involved.
:
Actually, to get them to work, copy your fonts into /NextLibrary/Fonts
(this can be a link from LocalLibrary). Then cd into that directory as
root and type buildafmdir. This rebuilds the font index so your machine
knows the new fonts are there.
---
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OpenSource, Inc.
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
303.861.2393 FAX
garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
**My opinions reflect positively or negatively on me only!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cyber@indirect.com (Jeff Jolley)
Subject: Q: TTF-to-NeXT?
Message-ID: <D2D62F.5Dv@indirect.com>
Sender: usenet@indirect.com (Internet Direct Admin)
Organization: Internet Direct, indirect.com
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 21:51:51 GMT
SOMEBODY out there must have converted .ttf fonts to the NeXT! Anyone know
of a good convert util? I found ttf2ps.c somewhere, which I had no prob
compiling, but it requires some sort of a template file in order to know
where to put the fonts, or the size of the fonts, or something. It also
looks like it was specifically made to convert chinese character fonts.
Any info that I could recieve about converting .ttf fonts would be GREATLY
appreciated.
Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Adding Fonts to NS
Message-ID: <1995Jan14.040949.13522@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <BYER.95Jan5122519@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com> <3f6v27$kb1@potogold.rmii.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 04:09:49 GMT
In article <3f6v27$kb1@potogold.rmii.com> garrett@opensource.com writes:
>>In article <BYER.95Jan5122519@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
>>byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes:
>>:
>>:Tom Gall writes:
>>:
>>:Tom> Well call me stupid! I picked up a number of fonts for NeXTSTEP the
>>:Tom> other day, but I've never run across any directions for
>>installation. I
>>:Tom> took a quick search through the manuals but didn't find anything.
>>:
>>:/NextLibrary/Fonts:/LocalLibrary/Fonts:~/Library/Fonts
>>:
>>:If the fonts isn't a NEXTSTEP font, there's a little more work involved.
>>:
>>
>>
>>Actually, to get them to work, copy your fonts into /NextLibrary/Fonts
>>(this can be a link from LocalLibrary). Then cd into that directory as
>>root and type buildafmdir. This rebuilds the font index so your machine
>>knows the new fonts are there.
>>
Umm, NEVER add anything to the /Next{Library|Developer|Apps|Admin} area.
It's just a bad idea. What's wrong with ~/Library/Fonts or
/LocalLibrary/Fonts? That's the right place to put new stuff.
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Real 3.3 Mail shortcomings? (Handling Email addresses)
Message-ID: <D2Cpq2.102@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <D1yDvB.p3@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 15:58:49 GMT
In article <D1yDvB.p3@shinto.nbg.sub.org> tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org
(Thomas Engel) writes:
> Hi all!
>
> Well formating might be a problem for some people...but I have one
that I
> guess NeXTs Mail 3.3 still hasn't solved.
>
>...
> Mails addresses is not able to store a list of accepted mail format
for a
> certain address !!
>
>...
> Doesn't this make sense ?
>
Makes a lot of sense to me and is the only thing i REALLY miss in Mail.
Thanks that you made the suggestion....
So long
Hans
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC for NextStep??
Message-ID: <1995Jan12.173648.18984@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 12 Jan 95 17:36:48 EST
References: <D25pxr.G0u@news2.new-york.net> <3ete7p$hbq@status>
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
Distribution: world
In article <3ete7p$hbq@status>, sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon) writes:
> In article <D25pxr.G0u@news2.new-york.net> razor@net23.com (Razor) writes:
>> In article <3erqt2$9bh@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu
> (Todd
>> Takken) writes:
>> >
>> > Does ircII exist for NextStep? Here is part of the man page for irc
>
> <<<< >>>>
>
>> > -- Todd Takken
>
>> You guys are sad. Grab ircII2.2.9 or 2.3.17beta from the ftp sites and
>> compile following the instructions. It will work fine.
>
> Well 'scuse us for trying to help out. If the versions you mention compile
> cleanly then thanks.
>
>> Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider
>> razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro
> area
>
> --
> Steve
>
> sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
> NeXTmail welcome!
I can get 2.2.9 to compile just fine and have been using it for
several months now.
But, I cannot get 2.7 to compile
Thomas J. Herbert
therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
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From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Question about popOver and Services menu
Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News)
Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 15:52:35 GMT
Message-ID: <D2EK3o.EL9@news2.new-york.net>
I've got a question about popOver and the Services menu. It seems that the
"Retrieve Mail" option is only ever selectable when something on the screen is
highlighted. To me, this doesn't make any sense, as retrieving mail has nothing
to do with whatever's selected. Furthermore, some programs' Services menus
don't even have the "Retrieve Mail" option in them... how can this be?
One other peculiarity I've noticed with my Services menu is that "Grab" never
gets selectable, although the program works fine when run from it's directory
from the Workspace Manager. Any ideas?
I am running NS3.3/3.2dev on a 25MHz 68040 mono 'station. I have already
checked in Preferences for Services to see if anything will help. No luck.
Thanks!
Matt
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From: callen@spot.Colorado.EDU (Allen Colin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Epson Color Stylus
Date: 14 Jan 1995 16:18:12 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <3f8tg4$57c@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
I just installed an Epson Color Stylus on my Pentium/NEXTSTEP and have
tested it so far with the Dots demo. At 360 dpi the output is great,
but at 720 dpi the printer is outputting far too much ink even for the
special paper. If there is an adjustment within Dots to change this,
I can't find it but I'd appreciate any pointers.
I have heard there is an alternative to Dots to drive this printer. If
anyone can tell me where to find the alternative, please let me know
and I will run a comparison and report the results.
Thanks.
--
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Philosophy, Texas A&M Univ. _@_ EPO Biology, Univ. of Colorado
College Station TX 77843-4237 X Boulder CO 80309-0334
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From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Real 3.3 Mail shortcomings?
Date: 14 Jan 1995 14:57:35 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <3f8oov$30k@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <D2Cpq2.102@onevision.de>
I'm surprised that Mail doesn't integrate with your address book, the way
the FAX panel does. For many people, I have to maintain the two lists. I
wish I could drag an address card to Mail and have it send mail to that
person.
In fact, I just tried it. You CAN drag an address card to the Compose
window, put it just inserts that's persons name, address & phone into the
body of the letter.
--
Did I SELL OUT yet??
Howard Ship hship@cac.stratus.com `84 GPz 750
"I lurk not, neither do I flame." [NeXT Mail 3.3 / MIME Mail OK]
From: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help: need to launch terminal window automatically after login
Message-ID: <41190@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca>
Date: 14 Jan 95 17:25:31 GMT
Sender: news@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine
I have a Turbo NeXT Cube running NS 3.0.
I need to set up an account which, upon login, automatically launches
the user into a terminal window (at least 25 lines and 80 columns).
Setting up the account is trivial but I cann't find such a
command to place in any of the ".*" files to launch the terminal window.
Any suggestions. Thanks.
Rob Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Guess: /dev/cufb is broken. [Q]: fix?
Date: 14 Jan 1995 09:45:43 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3f92k7$4ea@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
References: <3f512k$3p9@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu> <1995Jan13.213459.8708@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
the following posting was prepared before I've had time to review Mark's
response to my orignal posting. I belive that some question remains,
being ... "How can I repair my system to reinstall Mux, without doing
a complete reuild?"
here's what I wrote last night, but was unable to post.
I wrote my first posting in haste and frustration. From the responses
I've received it seems that my posting was less effective than obstruse.
e.g. in response to my original posting ...
" From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
<munch>
"John Boyd Candlish (whizer@cs.uoregon.edu) wrote:
": I've been using Mux_V1.5 (an all around respectable fix for NeXT's slow
": serial ports, thanks Mark!) with transSys PNI/SLIP as my connectivity
": solution. But now and then, for whatever rude reason you care to imagine,
": I crash.
"
": The funny thing is ... about 60% of the time, after the fsck/reboot
": /dev/cufb is broken. That means any use of /dev/cufb with Mux installed
": will hang the system.
"
"A properly configured Mux driver never breaks /dev/cufb. It works for
"several hundred people. Carefully look at the Instance0.tables for
"various configurations of Mux in the Mux distribution, choose the one that
"fits your system (e.g. with serial mouse / with bus mouse) and retry.
"
": So its back to using NeXT's SerialPorts :-( unless I can figure how to
": reinstall Mux )?
"If everything else fails, describe your COM port usage and I send you an
"Instance0.table for Mux and one for the original serial driver, if you need
"the latter for a serial mouse.
"
"Regards,
"Markus.
To begin, it is important to note that I am well aquainted with the Mux
program. I am useing V1.5revZ (that Mark Salyzn(sp?) sent me just 2
weeks past). I have used Mux configured as per the release for *many*
hundreds of hours. The Instance0.table is built by Configure.app from
information supplied in Default.table (just in case my Instance0.tables
may be incorrect I'll include them at the end of this posting). The
essential question is "Why does a known to work version of the Mux driver
hang the system after a powercycle/`fsck' system crash?"
My current hypothesis is based on an imcomplete understanding of device
drivers, loadable kernel services, and the filesystem ... but it goes
something like this.
Lets say the power is interupted to the system while a process has a lock
on /dev/cufb. When then power comes back on, an _NMI is generated, the
system reboots, finds that the filesystem in unclean (I get a little fuzzy
here, e.g. what checks are done at boot for filesystem cleanlyness?), and
then boot sequence performs an `fsck -p'.
NOTE#1: `fsck' does not log its output to /usr/adm/messages. To my way
of thinking this is a bug.
Once `fsck' displays its diagnostics, the screen goes black an we reboot
again. Now, chances are (about .6 by my experience) that when Mux goes to
use /dev/cufb the system will hang. Another power cycle &tc. Mux can be
rebuilt or reinstalled from an archival copy to no effect. The odd thing
however is that /dev/cufb will still work with the NeXT driver SerialPorts.
Also note, by probability is .6 for /dev/cufb to become broken, I do not mean
that access of /dev/cufb will hang the system is P=.6. If /dev/cufb
is broken any use of the port by Mux is a certain crash.
So my thinking is running along these lines. There must be some file that
`fsck' fails to close correctly when it cleans the system. Or, perhaps a
lock is left in place that the NeXT serial driver can negotiate, but
Mux cannot. I do not believe the problem lies with Mux, and it is my
goal to restore the system to the point that Mux will function without
going thru the ***major*** aggravation of a system install.
NOTE#2: I've thought that perhaps the best thing to do is to delete, and
then reinstall /dev/cufb using mknod. /devs/MAKEDEVS is a link to a script
that does just this sort of thing. I've been reluctant to pursue this
course both because of my incomplete understanding, and because I've noticed
that the major and minor device numbers provided in the script do not
agree with those in the `/devs' directory. What device numbers should
I use? Are the numbers given in the `MAKEDEVS' script incorrect?
Ulitmately, am I thinking along the correct path to restore my systems
serial port functionality? Or, is there some obvoius and easy fix that
I'm overlooking.
BTW, this all has to do with 3.2NSFIP
.................
..... here are some related documents
.................
a directory showing some major and minor device numbers
dunce:/me 3 % ls -al /dev/c*
crw--w--w- 1 candlish 0, 0 Jan 13 16:20 /dev/console
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 1,192 Jan 13 15:14 /dev/cua
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 1,193 Jan 13 15:14 /dev/cub
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 9,128 Jan 12 17:29 /dev/cudb
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 9,160 Jan 12 17:29 /dev/cudfb
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 1,224 Jan 13 15:14 /dev/cufa
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 1,225 Jan 13 16:51 /dev/cufb
a clip from /dev/MAKEDEV -> /usr/etc/MAKEDEV*@
...
mknod cua c 11 192; chmod 600 cua ; chown uucp cua
mknod cub c 11 193; chmod 600 cub ; chown uucp cub
mknod cufa c 11 224; chmod 600 cufa ; chown uucp cufa
mknod cufb c 11 225; chmod 600 cufb ; chown uucp cufb
...
dunce:/usr/Devices/Mux.config 9 # cat Instance0.table
"Driver Name" = "Mux";
"Path 0 OUT CTS" = "/dev/cufb";
"Title" = "Mux Serial";
"Location" = "System Baseboard";
"Family" = "Serial";
"Version" = "1.0";
"Support Dialout" = "YES";
"Server Name" = "Mux";
"RTS Low Water 0" = "683";
"Path 0" = "/dev/ttyb";
"Path 0 OUT DCD" = "/dev/cudb";
"Path 0 IN CTS" = "/dev/ttydfb";
"Post-Load" = "PostLoad";
"Memory Maps" = "";
"Support CTS" = "YES";
"Buffer Size 0" = "2048";
"Path 0 IN" = "/dev/ttydb";
"DMA Channels" = "";
"Baud Rates" = "50 75 110 134 150 200 300 600 1200 1800 2400 4800 9600 14400 19200 28800 38400 43200 57600";
"Path 0 CTS" = "/dev/ttyfb";
"Valid IRQ Levels" = "9 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 13 14 15";
"I/O Ports" = "0x2F8-0x2FF";
"Path 0 OUT DCD CTS" = "/dev/cudfb";
"Instance" = "0";
"Port Count" = "1";
"IRQ Levels" = "3";
"Support Dialin" = "YES";
"Driver Version" = "PROGRAM:Mux PROJECT:serialdriver-3.2 DEVELOPER:Mark.Salyzyn BUILT:94/01/13";
"Path 0 OUT" = "/dev/cub";
"RTS High Water 0" = "1366";
dunce:/usr/Devices/SerialPorts.config 3 # cat Instance0.table
"Path 0 OUT CTS" = "/dev/cufa";
"Driver Name" = "Scc82050";
"Title" = "System Serial";
"Location" = "System Baseboard";
"Family" = "Serial";
"Support Dialout" = "YES";
"Version" = "1.0";
"Server Name" = "SerialPorts";
"Path 0" = "/dev/ttya";
"Path 0 IN CTS" = "/dev/ttydfa";
"Post-Load" = "PostLoad";
"Memory Maps" = "";
"Support CTS" = "YES";
"Path 0 IN" = "/dev/ttyda";
"DMA Channels" = "";
"Path 0 CTS" = "/dev/ttyfa";
"Valid IRQ Levels" = "4";
"I/O Ports" = "0x3f8-0x3ff 0x108-0x10f";
"Instance" = "0";
"Port Count" = "1";
"IRQ Levels" = "4";
"Support Dialin" = "YES";
"Path 0 OUT" = "/dev/cua";
"Driver Version" = "PROGRAM:SerialPorts PROJECT:serialdriver-3.2 DEVELOPER:mflynn BUILT:NO DATE SET (-B used)";
...................................
...................................
...................................
I hope this presents a complete and concise desription of the
system behavior that I am experiencing, and explains the functionally
that I am trying to restore. Maybe I can reinstall Mux without
rebuilding the whole system.
Has anyone heard anything about NeXT's "fixed" SerialPorts driver?
aTdHvAaNnKcSe
jCandlish
.
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Guess: /dev/cufb is broken. [Q]: fix?
Date: 14 Jan 1995 10:03:56 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3f93mc$4gn@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
References: <3f512k$3p9@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu> <1995Jan13.213459.8708@ve6mgs.ampr.org> <3f92k7$4ea@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
The following error in omission exists in my last posting
I stated that I have been using MuxV1.5z. What I should have said is that
I am trying to install MuxV1.5z. I am not certain what version of Mux
was running when the system crashed, but MuxV1.5z as I have compiled it
does not work given the current state of my system.
I shall now try to recompile Mux as per Mark's recommendations and see
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scanner SW Suggestions
Date: 14 Jan 1995 18:21:07 GMT
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Message-ID: <3f94mj$do3@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Summary: HP IIc Scanner Driver Recommendations Sought.
Keywords: HPIIc, Scanner SW, Recommendations
Seeking recommendations for HPIIC Scanner SW.
Primary constraint is that I have an HPIIc.
Thanks, David Bradford
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help: need to launch terminal window automatically after login
Date: 14 Jan 1995 13:31:33 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3f95a5$4hs@panix.com>
References: <41190@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca>
In <41190@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) writes:
>I need to set up an account which, upon login, automatically launches
>the user into a terminal window (at least 25 lines and 80 columns).
>Setting up the account is trivial but I cann't find such a
>command to place in any of the ".*" files to launch the terminal window.
>Any suggestions. Thanks.
First, make sure that Terminal is set to autolaunch from the dock
or from the Workspace LaunchPaths dwrite.
Set up your desired window configuration in Terminal, then choose
command-s to save it. On the save panel is a switch that says:
"Open this file when Terminal starts up?"
Toggle it on and you'll be set. Alternatively, choose command-7
to bring up Terminal's startup Preferences. There's a way to do
it there also.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Mac to NeXT printing problems
Message-ID: <D2DJ8o.9F@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 02:36:24 GMT
I have InterPrint on the Mac which is an lpr client and it
tries to send the file to print on the NeXT.
The problems is that I get an error that says
"LPR open fails (spooler may be disabled)" on the
Mac side.
I can see the Mac using ping, etc.......
and the Mac can see the NeXT using NCA Telnet.
What's the problem on the NeXT side?
It seems to be on the NeXT side.
lpd does seem to be running on the NeXT.
Mind you, I have a PC running PC-NFS running with
no problems at all printing.
Kent
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Subject: Re: scitex.ct filter service
Message-ID: <1995Jan12.233553.1522@westwerk.cube.de>
Sender: mburg@westwerk.cube.de (Michael Burgstahler)
Organization: Westwerk
References: <3f20na$s1e@nntp.crl.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 23:35:53 GMT
In article <3f20na$s1e@nntp.crl.com> michael@clxgraph.com (Michael Rutchik)
writes:
> Is anyone aware of a filter service for NS Intel that will read and
> convert scitex.ct format a la OmniImage? Would this be a difficult format
> to add, Mr Shipley?
>
> OmniImage is so superior to any other image conversion program/service on
> any platform both in terms of performance and capability. It would make my
> day (and sell more NS systems in the pub market) if it also handled scitex
> and open/save to -> .eps.
>
> Additionally, is it possible to save .eps with jpeg compression? I believe
> this is possible under acrobat (although it might just be some sort of
> kludge) and would help us immensely when we need to create place-able
> images for Adobe Illustrator/Mac.
Hi Michael - nice to meet you in this place again!
Your questions can be answered easily:
First, the Scitex .ct format is exactly the same as a 32-bit CMYK-TIFF.
Just rename a .ct-file into a .tiff-file and double-click it!
Your next question, saving eps with jpeg compression leaves me a bit puzzled.
How do you want to apply a lossy compression scheme on a vector description?
Vectors are supposed to be defined exactly ;-)
Saving pixel data as in an eps-file was usual when the tiff-format was still
young. But today, most of the place-jobs are done and should be done (if
possible) with tiff-files. And there's one BIG reason, namely the really BIG
size of eps-images compared to tiff-images. The same image data eats up about
30% more memory/disk space when you save it as eps rather than saving it as
tiff. A postscript guru once told me that this happens because of some nasty
old 7-bit-encoding of the pixel data in PostScript.
So, doesn't Adobe Illustrator/Mac offer to place tiff-files directly without
eps-conversion? Every other DTP app (Freehand, Quark, PM, Virty, ...) is able
to handle tiff-files.
--
Have more fun,
Michael
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(NeXTmail welcome)
General Manager -> Two Tribes Informationsgestaltung GmbH
NEXTSTEP-driven company
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R&D loc -> University of Stuttgart
2nd Dpt. of Theoretical Physics
2t loc -> Forststrasse 163/1 * 70193 Stuttgart * GERMANY
Phone +49 (0)711/638360 * Fax +49 (0)711/634696
----------------------------------------------------------
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Thanks,
Michael
----------------------------------------------------------
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(NeXTmail welcome)
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nobody is perfect (Re: PCI Video Performance explained)
Date: 14 Jan 1995 12:19:29 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Message-ID: <3f9bkh$r64@samsara.circus.com>
References: <1995Jan9.043858.25536@news.media.mit.edu> <3f4nak$jq1@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <3f4nak$jq1@usenet.rpi.edu>,
Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
>wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
>> [...skipping...] Given that, though, I've always been a pretty
>> rabid NEXTSTEP advocate; enough so that I bore *myself* sometimes.
> [skipping more]
>> anyway...
>>
>> the point is that many of us: the techs, the geeks, the back room
>> hackers - us *unpaid advocates* - are getting tired of trying to
>> tell NeXT things (suggestions, bug reports, primal screaming)
>> and feeling like we're going hoarse and are already deaf.
>
>While I'm not inclined to beat up on NeXT every chance I get,
>the above paragraph certainly does ring true to me...
I would hazard a guess that it's a matter of "comparative volume", in a
situation where large corporate customers get to use a megaphone.
It's important, though, that behind every corporate customer with a megaphone,
there's usually a couple of the back-room hackers who are providing some
technical information to the management dwee^H^H^H^H folks so that they don't
make absolutely clueless decisions.
So, the techs, geeks, and back-room hackers, while not the decision-makers,
are still a very important part of the process. Personally I do my best to
appease the geeks and hackers because that's where my own background is.
I'm sure that there's a lot of us who wish that the entire industry could
run smoothly without managers telling us what to spend time on, who to help,
and what to let fall by the wayside.
This is, of course, not a flame against my boss or anything. He's cool. :)
-Adam
>--
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>ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
>Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: PPP Problem (NEXTSTEP to NEXTSTEP Only)
Message-ID: <D2E7AG.1Gy@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 11:15:51 GMT
I'm having trouble getting PPP up between 2 NEXTSTEP (Intel) machines...
Note that connecting from PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP to an Internet provider with
terminal servers and Morningstar PPP __WORKS *GREAT*__.
It's between two machines running PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP I have the problem. I
have received several notes from other people experiencing the same...
Has anybody tried this? Does your "ppp.remote" script look like the one
below?
I get connected, and communication is definitely coming across the line
(see debug log of "calling" machine below), but the PPP link fails and I
get some messages in the /usr/adm/messages file that indicate that both
sides are unable to "see" the other over the link...
The configuration on the remote (calling) machine works fine when calling
an Internet provider but calling another NS machine running the same
PPP-2.2 fails....
Have you been able to do this, and would you mind forwarding your
"ppp.remote" script?
Thanks in advance!!
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
======================
CONFIG:
============================
- "ppp.remote" script on local (answering) machine (triggered by use as
login script for user "ppp"):
#!/bin/csh
echo Starting PPP
/usr/bin/mesg n
/bin/stty -tostop litout
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd local kdebug 17 debug defaultroute bsdcomp 10,10
\
lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-failure 5 19200
=============================
- "pppup" script on remote (calling) machine:
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 lcp-echo-interval 15 \
lcp-echo-failure 5 -crtscts defaultroute kdebug 17 debug modem -pap -chap
\
connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO
DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" "AT" "OK" ATL1M0DT8648062 TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT
"" ogin: ppp assword: ppp PPP' \
/dev/cufb 19200 lock
=============================
- Mux 1.5, 16550 UART's on both machines
- ZyXEL U1496E modems on both machines
- NXFax 1.04 on both machines
- Remote (calling) machine name/domain name/IP/netmask:
damonc / tor.hookup.net / 165.154.11.65 / 255.255.255.0
- Local (answering) machine name/domain name/IP/netmask:
damonc / aetnacan.com / 192.251.166.138 / 255.255.255.0
- /usr/adm/messages from both machines (identical):
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: PPP configuring Interface with:
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Name: ppp
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Type: PPP over generic TTY
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: MTU : 1500
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach:
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Unit 0... Successfully attached.
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Unit 1... Successfully attached.
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Packet Decompression will be done outside
interrupt handler
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: PPP-2.2 (NeXT LKS) Installed
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: LKS Version $Id: if_ppp.c,v 1.24 1994/11/21
05:10:15 perkins Exp $
Dec 17 01:53:38 damonc mach: Bug reports to Steve Perkins
(perkins@cps.msu.edu)
==============================
RESULTS:
- Remote (calling) machine /usr/adm/ppp2.2.debug:
Dec 17 10:40:48 damonc pppd[1864]: Connected...
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufb
Dec 17 10:40:49 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc pppd[1864]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ef1fe8d> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:41:19 damonc pppd[1864]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 17 10:41:19 damonc pppd[1864]: Connection terminated.
===============================
- Local (answering) machine /usr/adm/ppp2.2.debug:
Dec 17 10:47:36 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:39 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:42 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:45 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:48 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:51 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:54 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:47:57 damonc pppd[6639]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500>
<magic 0x2ed34b43> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Dec 17 10:48:00 damonc pppd[6639]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 17 10:48:00 damonc pppd[6639]: Connection terminated.
=============================
DEBUG INFO:
- Remote (calling) machine /usr/adm/messages
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x0 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66 98
fe 66 98 fe 06
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18 e6
66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:40:58 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:01 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:04 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:07 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:10 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:13 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 00 f8 e6 e6 e6 60 06 98 fe 66
98 fe 66 98 fe
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 06 98 fe 86 78 e6 66 98 fe 06 18
e6 66 18 e0
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0 input: fe 66 18 e6 86 18 f8 86 1e
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x86 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:16 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 86 e6 80 66 e6 18 e6 86 60 e6 06
86 e6 86 60 86
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 98 f8
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0xfe (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:41:17 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
==========================
- Local (answering) machine /usr/adm/messages
Dec 17 10:42:00 damonc su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Dec 17 10:43:00 damonc su: SU to news by root on (null pointer)
Dec 17 10:47:00 damonc last message repeated 2 times
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: ppp0: missing UI (0x3), got 0x1e
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:31 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 1c 1f 1f 0f 4f 1f 2f 3f ff fa
c9 ff 3f 3e 0e
Dec 17 10:47:34 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 0e 0e ef ff ff 1e 1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
1e 2e 3e fe f8
Dec 17 10:47:37 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 29 ee f9 3e 0e 0e 0e ef ff ff 1e
1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 2e 3e fe f8 29 ee f8 f9 f9 f8
98 ef ff 1e 1c
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 1e 1e 0f 4f 1f 2f 3f ff fa c9 7b
9a
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:40 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 18 fb ff 8b 44 8b 8b 87 a7
8f 97 9f 65 fe
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:43 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:46 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 98 ef ff 1e 1c 1e 1e 0e 4e
1e fe fc e8 3e
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 2e db 3f 3e 0e 0e 0e ed ff ff 1f
1c 8b 8b 83 a3
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 8b 93 9f 65 fe cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:49 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 18 fb ff 8b 44 8b 8b 83 a7
8f 97 9f 65 fe
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 99
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:52 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 19 fe ff 1f 1c 1f 1f 0f a3
8b 93 9b 65 fa
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0 input: cb 7b 98
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: Flushing complete
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: ppp0: garbage received: 0x31 (need
PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
Dec 17 10:47:55 damonc mach: FLUSHING....
Dec 17 10:47:58 damonc mach: ppp0 input: 31 fc 99 ef ff 1f 1c 8b 8b 83 a3
8b 97 9f 65 fe
===================
--
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
From: leszczyn@cadcam5.pms.ford.com (Larry Leszczynski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: best free SLIP/PPP for 3.2 black?
Date: 14 Jan 1995 21:09:08 GMT
Organization: Ford Motor Company
Sender: leszczyn@cc7045.pms.ford.com (Larry Leszczynski)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f9ehk$c2@eccdb1.pms.ford.com>
We're looking for info on the best free SLIP or PPP that is
available for 3.2 black. Please email any info to
leszczyn@cadcam.pms.ford.com
thansk!
--
Larry Leszczynski (313)337-3229
leszczyn@cadcam.pms.ford.com (313)390-8817 FAX
"It's an entropy thing."
From: rmharris@clark.net (Richard M. Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Marble Teleconnect SLIP IP addr
Date: 14 Jan 1995 22:04:13 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <3f9hot$iml@clarknet.clark.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Can anyone tell me how to change the IP address in my Marble Teleconnect
SLIP package from their "assigned" number to the Internet address
assigned to me? There is a panel for it but you have to put in a key,
and I have called them twice only to be told "The people who know how to
do that are all out on jobs and we can't contact them" (these people
wrote networking software ??)
--
*** Mike Harris booknet/rmharris_ltd
phone: (703) 356-1686 fax: (703) 356-5431
e-mail: booknet@rmharris.com, r.m.harris@ieee.org, rharris@clark.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: GUI Testing
Message-ID: <1995Jan14.125300.4923@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950113120302.20274C-100000@hphalle10i.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 12:53:00 GMT
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950113120302.20274C-100000@hphalle10i.informatik.tu-muenche
n.de> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU> writes:
> On 12 Jan 1995, Thomas Mitchell wrote:
> > Does anyone in this group know where I can get ANY information
> > about GUI Testing? I've come across lots of information on
> > GUIs and on interfaces in general, but I've found nothing on
> > procedures and standards for GUI Testing.
> >
> You really think about GUI testing? Therefore you already did
> the design (which is the more complicated part)?
>
> There are several tools out there (my project manager told me
> about some perchusable from DEC (digital) ) which all fit in the
> category: maintainance.
>
> The tools do the following: record user action and desired reply
> of the software. This means: a press on button 'A' has to produce
> effect 'a'. The software is capable to record any effect 'a'
> (the effect has not to be visible. It may be a function return
> value, a global data change, an opened window etc.) You have to
> teach the tool all possible input events. The tool will record
> all these events and report any differences to the standards
> you've set on further releases. So you can go sure your software
> does exactly the same with every further release.
>
> If you think about GUI design, there are several GUI-guidelines
> out there, which provide you with information on how information
> is presented in a good GUI. Reply to get a source.
>
Regression testing, the thing Boerny talks about, for GUIs is a big
problem, IMHO. In most cases you're up to write your own tools.
There are solutions for X11 (for instance from DEC, in case of Motif) and
Windooze (from Micros...). But that's it (what a pity)! If somebody
knows of such a thing for other GUIs please tell me.
I've never heard of anything alike for NEXTSTEP/DisplayPostScript. And I
know of someone who'd pay me a small fortune for a PresentationManager
solution (the IBM thing is much too stupid to be of any use).
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: what does .compressed mean?
Date: 15 Jan 1995 00:29:35 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f9q9f$o72@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
What does .compressed mean? If I double click on the file I can
decompress it from the workspace manager. But what if I want (or need) to
do it remotely from the command line?
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: michael@mmgraph.com (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: scitex.ct filter service
Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:04:35 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3f9sb3$aec@nntp.crl.com>
References: <1995Jan12.233553.1522@westwerk.cube.de>
In article <1995Jan12.233553.1522@westwerk.cube.de> mburg@westwerk.cube.de
(Michael Burgstahler) writes:
> First, the Scitex .ct format is exactly the same as a 32-bit
> CMYK-TIFF. Just rename a .ct-file into a .tiff-file and
> double-click it!
Fantastic! I'll try this on Tuesday. It better work...or else :-)
> Your next question, saving eps with jpeg
> compression leaves me a bit puzzled. How do you want to
> apply a lossy compression scheme on a vector description?
> Vectors are supposed to be defined exactly ;-)
I'm actually interested in both lossy and non-lossy compression schemes.
Most of our files that have placed bitmaps use them as FPO's.
Occasionally, however, we will want the high-res bitmap included with the
file. In this case a non-lossy scheme would be helpful to file sizes down
at least a little.
> ...
> So, doesn't Adobe Illustrator/Mac offer to place tiff-files
> directly without eps-conversion? Every other DTP app
> (Freehand, Quark, PM, Virty, ...) is able to handle
> tiff-files.
Bingo! This is an evil plot by Adobe to redefine the entire world with
PostScript!* Since our artwork library is made up of thousands of
Illustrator files we're stuck with this oversight (conspiracy). We are
trying to switch some of our design firms to Freehand and eventually
Virtuoso. But Virtuoso has now fallen behind Freehand so things are still
too complicated to do this soon. If Freehand 5's new features (AI 5.5
support, AI plug-in support, multicolor gradients) really work (read:
produce good postscript) AND Virtuoso gets upgraded soon, my .tiff to .eps
concerns would go away very quickly.
*In the meantime, between our font library and
Display Postscript, I do still love Adobe.
Nice to hear from you Michael. I've just subscribed to the NeXTpub mailing
list where we could probably continue this discussion further.
Michael Rutchik
Designer
m&m Graphics
michael@mmgraph.com
PS: I heard from Gerd last week and it reminded me that we better start
making some noise about a viable, large-scale expo alternative if we hope
to get together this summer! I still think SunWorld/Expo/DevCon is the way
to go. ATTENTION: NS Users unite and convince the ISV's that we love them,
we need them and we will buy (and help to sell) MORE APPS!
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3f6crg$rdp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Control: cancel <3f6crg$rdp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:58:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3f9vfo$src@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: daemon9@netcom.com (blank)
Subject: New partition=NO smartdrv dbl buffering
Message-ID: <daemon9D2FDEr.7n7@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 02:25:39 GMT
I recently partitioned my DOS 1 gig SCSI-II drive for use with
Next. I already had one split (a small 100 meg one) and
needed another for NeXT...
The second split was a large 430 meg for NeXTStep. After I
installed NeXT, and went to load up DOS, everything is fine,
except smartdrv will not load the double buffer manager anymore.
I have it in the config.sys
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER
and in the autoexec.bat
C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE /L /v 2048 128
Could it be that the NeXTStep BootLoader is conflicting
with initialization of smartdrv?
Thanks for any help!!
--
<----------------------------Knowledge is PoWeR---------------------------->
<--------------Wisdom is Infinte------------->
<-------- Finger for more info------->
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: kfc PLUG was Re: 2.1 Date.app with 3.2/Moto ?
Date: 15 Jan 1995 12:45:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3fb5e7$pua@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <3euedj$7ou@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <3euedj$7ou@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>,
Gregor Hoffleit <flight@djingis> wrote:
>Somebody urges me to reinstall NeXT's old 2.1 Date.app on our
>system. I tried to grab it from peanuts, but wasn't able to run it on
>3.2/Moto. Is there anything comparable (I even don't know what it did
>;-) available nowadays for free ?
Shameless plug:
Grab kfc... from
cs.orst.ede//software/NeXT/binaries/util/kfc.app.0.8.M68k.iX86.tar.gz
It's not Date, but it's getting there (and more).
Kurt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cosgrove@magibox.net (Rob Cosgrove)
Subject: LOCAL MICRO MAN INVENTS RBS-Makes Big $-FREE DEMO - nwspost4.txt [1/1]
Content-Type: Text/Plain
Organization: Precision Data
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 04:40:54 GMT
Message-ID: <D2FJo9.2E1@chaos.magibox.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Sender: news@chaos.magibox.net (Magibox)
Local Microcomputer Consultant Invents Remote Backup Service
Software and Makes It Big
Dear colleague,
If you are reading this message, you have all the resources
needed to be successful in our new emerging cyber-world. I'd
like to tell you a short story about how your capabilities can
improve your life.
My friend, Rob Cosgrove is a microcomputer consultant, here in
Memphis, TN. Seven years ago, by a random twist of fate, he invented
a software solution to solve a client's problem. This client's
employee's weren't backing up his computers regularly, or at all.
This was " an accident waiting to happen ". Rob developed a way to
back up his client's computers automatically, and send that critical
data off-site, by modem , where it is safe. This all happens in the
middle of the night, when most businesses are closed. It's called a
Remote Backup Service.
Now he's written a book and software so anyone with a PC, a
modem, and a phone line can perform off-site data backups for local
businesses. This service has generated thousands of dollars, per
phone line, per month for him. Now it can for you too. It can even
run unattended for days or weeks at a time.
There's more to explain. So we've set up a 24-hr automated
Info/Faxback Hotline. For best results, call from your Fax machine
or a phone connected to your fax/modem, and be ready to receive faxes.
The number is : 901-681-0445 extension #208 .
To receive a Free E-mail Report, send us your name, postal
address, phone # , and the message : "Free RBS Report" . Please
include all of this info so we can process your request.
If you'd like to test drive our demo software, include the
message : " RBS DEMO " in your reply, and I will personally E-Mail
you instructions for downloading it.
Reply to : cosgrove@magibox.net
To respond by voice,or for questions, contact Steve at: 901-774-9900.
Best regards,
Steve Conroy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: c92kl@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Kenneth Lomax)
Subject: MIDI Interface for the Next. Help please!!!!!
Message-ID: <1995Jan15.131652.505@client40.comlab.ox.ac.uk>
Originator: c92kl@client40.comlab
Sender: c92kl@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Kenneth Lomax)
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 13:16:52 GMT
Hi. Could anyone please tell me where I can find a MIDI interface for the Next?
(Preferably in the UK)
Please reply to my e-mail.
Thank you very much.
Ken Lomax
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP Problem (NEXTSTEP to NEXTSTEP Only)
Message-ID: <790188043.0@cs.york.ac.uk>
Date: 15 Jan 1995 16:40:43 GMT
References: <D2E7AG.1Gy@tor.hookup.net>
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) writes:
> It's between two machines running PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP I have the problem. I
> have received several notes from other people experiencing the same...
>
> Has anybody tried this? Does your "ppp.remote" script look like the one
> below?
I run 2.2 between 2 NeXT's - one port being steves, one being a port
of 2.2 that I'm working on independently. Steve's code or ours just
drops in interchangeably at either end, so preseumably my scripts will
work in your environment. I either call the remote machine using a direct
piece of wire as a connection, or else call a terminal server using a modem
and telnet in. In both systems the login script at the far end is the same:
#!/bin/sh
OPTIONS="-as a0000 escape ff bsdcomp 15 mru 552"
/usr/bin/mesg n
if /etc/ifconfig ppp0
then
/bin/echo pppok
else
/bin/echo pppbad
sleep 3
exit 1
fi
/bin/stty pass8 pass8out -tostop -tandem
exec /etc/ppp/pppd $OPTIONS `hostname`: netmask 255.255.254.0
The test on the ifconfig is to make sure that ppp is installed on the box
and running - my connect scripts look for 'pppok' and abort on 'pppbad'
after login.
The password file entry is :
pppcon:iWUyPVkH9hPpI:30:20:PPP account:/etc/ppp:/etc/ppp/pppgo
The script I use to connect to the machine (over the phone) is:
#!/bin/sh
RATE=19200
DEVICE=cufb
OPTIONS="modem -as a0000 escape ff bsdcomp 15 mru 552 $*"
CONFILE=`pwd`/phone-skerry
CONPROG="/usr/local/bin/chat -v -f $CONFILE"
rm -f /usr/spool/uucp/LCK/*
echo Using options $OPTIONS
echo Using connect $CONPROG
touch /aseg4/pete/nextbin/chat
/pppd $OPTIONS lock connect "$CONPROG" netmask 255.255.254.0 /dev/$DEVICE $RATE 2> /dev/console
The only difference for the direct connection is that I remove the 'modem'
option and call out on cua. This works with both Muc installed and the
standard NeXT serial drivers.
Hope this helps...
-bat.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 broke my Mathematica!
Date: 15 Jan 1995 19:31:23 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3fbt6b$6bs@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3eqimt$4hm@jujube.cs.umd.edu> <3erqn2$9a8@nntp.stanford.edu> <3f4tos$3nu@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
John Boyd Candlish (whizer@cs.uoregon.edu) wrote:
: < guesses and comments about MMA's protection mechanism >
: I too have been bitten by MMA's protection scheme. And for the slimmest
: (silliest) of reasons. Beliving that the mach kernel had become corrupted
I agree. It is a pain.
: reinstallation as they have for registation. After all, registation is
: done automatically and only has about 1hr turn around time(YMMV), but
: validation for reinstallation requires a FAXED document to go round
: trip. Couldn't this be replaced by some sort of public key e-mail
: system. It would also be nice it the cat had a few lives, or perhaps
Actually, Wolfram DOES have an automated e-mail system. I have used it
on several occasions. Use the MathInstaller to e-mail the system info,
and Wolfram will e-mail back the registration info to you. (It doesn't
always work tho).
--
| Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate |
| rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: 15 Jan 1995 19:32:46 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fbt8u$6bs@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3f57bl$vki@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <Pine.HPP.3.91.950113121232.20274D-100000@hphalle10i.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Bernhard Scholz (scholz@TU) wrote:
: On 13 Jan 1995 gerdes@ibm.net wrote:
: > After installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 for the Motorola from scratch (new hard
: > disk) I am disappointed to discover that LaTeX is no longer included in
: > the software distribution, although TeX still is. It came with 3.2 so
: > what has changed? Anyone know about how to get LaTeX2e that will
: > run under 3.3 on a NeXTcube?
: LaTeX2e is not a binary program. It's a makro package written for TeX.
: You can use LaTeX on every platform running TeX.
: You can receive a copy of LaTeX2e nearly on every FTP server. E.g. our
: archiv in Munich is really well sorted:
: ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de: /pub/comp/typesetting/tex/macros/LateX2e/
Unfortunately (correct me if I'm wrong), you need LaTeX 2.09 to build
LaTeX2e.
--
| Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate |
| rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
From: pcu@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: what does .compressed mean?
Date: 16 Jan 1995 00:16:24 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fcdsp$k4b@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3f9q9f$o72@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3f9q9f$o72@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
> What does .compressed mean? If I double click on the file I can
> decompress it from the workspace manager. But what if I want (or need) to
> do it remotely from the command line?
compressed == .tar.Z (if you have 'compress' set up as your compression
program, you could set it to the gnu utilities, etc).
--
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
Anything to me is sweeter,
Than to see Shock-headed Peter. - H. Hoffmann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: erik@sultan.ping.de (Erik Doernenburg)
Subject: Re: Neural NeXTworks?
Message-ID: <1995Jan14.182019.1648@sultan.ping.de>
Sender: erik@sultan.ping.de
References: <1995Jan11.215753.3875@westwerk.cube.de>
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 18:20:19 GMT
In article <1995Jan11.215753.3875@westwerk.cube.de> mburg@westwerk.cube.de
(Michael Burgstahler) writes:
> Whoops, I forgot to mention where the SNNS-package can be downloaded:
>
> >The SNNS simulator can be obtained via anonymous ftp from host
> >
> > ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (129.69.211.2)
> >
> >in the subdirectory /pub/SNNS
> >as file
> > SNNSv3.2.tar.Z (1.99 MB)
> >
>
> I think, they're now in version 3.3
True. I got that version a couple of weeks ago and with the patches
developed by Randolf Werner <evol@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> everything
works fine now. I have to say that I'm quite impressed by that package
although it can be a bit awkward to create new training sets.
Note that there's a commercial NN simulation package with a real NeXTSTEP
interface, too, called NeuroSolutions. I only saw the demo version and
didn't spent too much time with it, but my first impressions were that it
offers _much_ more functionality than SNNS and might even be extened using
bundles. (It is 17 MB by the way.) On the other hand the whole interface
looked really chaotic and was not at all intuitive to use. If you are
interested contact
NeuroDimension, Inc.
720 SW Second Ave., Suite 458
Gainesville, FL 32601
Phone: 1-800-ND-IDEAS
E-Mail: neurosolutions@nd.com
I have no connections to ND. In fact, I don't even have the NeuroSolutions
software.
erik
--
_____________________________________________________
Erik Doernenburg, erik@sultan.ping.de (NeXT/MIME/PGP)
Adolfstr. 25, 44793 Bochum, Germany, Tel: 0234-681027
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: Using mail over ppp and an internet provider
Message-ID: <1995Jan16.021739.6238@iitmax.iit.edu>
Keywords: ppp internet provider mail
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 02:17:39 GMT
Hello world,
I have an account with an internet provider. I have the name of their
news server. I am running ppp on my home machine which is a standalone.
I have gotten other internet programs to work such as Omniweb (Yeah!),
gatorFTP, etc..
Now I am trying to get mail to work. I would like to be able to use
Mail.app for sending and receiveing mail.
Can you give me any pointers on the main changes that I have to make?
Do I have to muck with sendmail? sendmail.cf?
Where do I insert the name of my provider's mail server (SMTP)?
Thanks for any initial pointers.
Chris Conley
cconley@mcs.com
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DarkForest for Intel (NSI)??
Date: 16 Jan 1995 09:06:05 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fdctt$99m@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hello,
I LOVE DarkForest on my moto-NS machine at home and I miss it very much on my
intel-NSI machine at work. Is there any copy of DarkForest available
somewhere for intel-based NeXTSTEP??? If sou, could someone please point me
in the right direction (ftp-server)??
Thanks a lot,
Helmut
--
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FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562----------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University
Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group
From: hornof@oregon.irisa.fr (Luke Hornof)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WANTED: AutoCAD for NeXT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 09 Jan 1995 18:04:20 GMT
Organization: IRISA, Campus de Beaulieu, 35042 Rennes Cedex, FRANCE
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <HORNOF.95Jan9190420@oregon.irisa.fr>
I'm looking for AutoCAD (or something equivalent) for the NeXT. Does someone
know if this exists, where I can get it, how much it costs, if I can demo it
before buying, etc. Or even if there is some cheap public domain program
around?
Thanks in advance,
Luke
From: NEPPERT@reze-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de" (NEPPERT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tclsh problems
Date: 16 Jan 1995 10:15:37 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum, RWTH Aachen
Message-ID: <3fdh09$g9s@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello out there,
I installed tcl7.3 on a NextStation running NS3.2 and the tests seemed
to be OK. But when I try to type something like
proc xx {arg1 arg2} {<CR>
I cannot continue with the definition.
Instead tcl complains about ´extra characters after close brace´.
However, if there´s just one arg, everything seems to be OK.
I don´t know if I don´t understand tcl or if there is something wrong
with my installed version.
Thanks, Burkhard
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WANTED: AutoCAD for NeXT
Date: 16 Jan 1995 09:54:57 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fdfph$shl@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <HORNOF.95Jan9190420@oregon.irisa.fr>
Luke Hornof (hornof@oregon.irisa.fr) wrote:
: I'm looking for AutoCAD (or something equivalent) for the NeXT. Does someone
: know if this exists, where I can get it, how much it costs, if I can demo it
: before buying, etc. Or even if there is some cheap public domain program
: around?
Try ACADEMY. Can be found on many 3rd party demo CDs and ftp sites.
Get purchase info from info@cube.de.
Regards,
Markus.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // Navigator - System administration & Consulting
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.com.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT FAQ
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 14:13:33 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116140134.26082A-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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No, this isn't a new NeXT FAQ!
BUT: I'm currently recompiling the old FAQs and inserting new stuff to
compile a new FAQ. I am pretty sure that I can't maintain such a big work
very long, so I need _YOU!_
The current status of the FAQ: ready to post, waiting for registration of
news.answer. Includes only old stuff but rewritten in texinfo so there
are .dvi .ps and .html files available.
I need YOU for helping me with:
- sending me submissions you want to be included in a FAQ. (I just
can't read all the articles in all newsgroups...)
- collection news and writing articles about NeXT hardware specific
topics (comp.sys.next.hardware newsgroup)
- collecting news and writing articles about NeXT/UNIX specific topics
(comp.sys.next.sysadmin newsgroup)
- collecting news and writing articles about NeXT software specific
topics (comp.sys.next.software newsgroup)
- re-reading my prepared articles (I'm German and do _lots_ of mistakes
when writing in English)
Hopefully at least two people are willing to help me, because I'm only a
student and just don't have the time to hang around with FAQ work, also
I'll do me best.
Greetings, Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DarkForest for Intel (NSI)??
Date: 16 Jan 1995 13:19:50 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fdrpm$lul@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3fdctt$99m@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Helmut Heller (heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de) wrote:
: Is there any copy of DarkForest available
: somewhere for intel-based NeXTSTEP???
/NextDeveloper/Demos/ on the Nextstep 3.3 CD.
Regards,
Markus.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // Navigator - System administration & Consulting
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Errata: NeXT FAQ
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 17:22:09 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116170435.8628K-100000@hphalle10d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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1) EXCUSE ME:
I misconfigured PINE wrong, therefore the FROM: line contains garbage.
To contact me, write to
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Anyway I fixed the bug and everything should work fine now.
2) People who want to help, should include a subject line like:
FAQ: helping on <(de.)comp.sys.next.*>
I would like to have people watching one newsgroup carefully for FAQ
related topics. Currently I'm watching _all_ newsgroups on the fly :-)
3) People who want to send submissions to the FAQ should include a
subject line like:
FAQ: submission
4) I'm planing an e-mail service. People who like to get the FAQ by e-mail
should e-mail me with the following subject line:
FAQ: subscribe
I'm not sure wether I can convince my system administrator so maybe
this service might get canned :(
5) The FAQ is going to be posted _monthly_. A biweekly change log is under
construction. The first FAQ will be posted as fast as news.answers has
registrated the NeXT FAQ. Therefore the first time a FAQ will be posted
regularly might become the 01.03.1995. I'll hope to post a pre-release
in February.
Sorry for the trouble and
thanks to the people who helped/are going to help me,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: jlc@trax.cb.att.com (John L. Chmielewski)
Subject: Re: PPP Problem (NEXTSTEP to NEXTSTEP Only)
Message-ID: <D2I88p.B9s@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida
References: <D2E7AG.1Gy@tor.hookup.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 15:26:49 GMT
In article <D2E7AG.1Gy@tor.hookup.net>,
Damon F. Cooper <damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net> wrote:
>I'm having trouble getting PPP up between 2 NEXTSTEP (Intel) machines...
>
>Note that connecting from PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP to an Internet provider with
>terminal servers and Morningstar PPP __WORKS *GREAT*__.
>
>It's between two machines running PPP 2.2 NEXTSTEP I have the problem. I
>have received several notes from other people experiencing the same...
>
>Has anybody tried this? Does your "ppp.remote" script look like the one
>below?
>
>I get connected, and communication is definitely coming across the line
>(see debug log of "calling" machine below), but the PPP link fails and I
>get some messages in the /usr/adm/messages file that indicate that both
>sides are unable to "see" the other over the link...
>
>The configuration on the remote (calling) machine works fine when calling
>an Internet provider but calling another NS machine running the same
>PPP-2.2 fails....
>
>Have you been able to do this, and would you mind forwarding your
>"ppp.remote" script?
>
>Thanks in advance!!
>
>Damon F. Cooper
>damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
>
>
>======================
>
>CONFIG:
>
>============================
>- "ppp.remote" script on local (answering) machine (triggered by use as
>login script for user "ppp"):
>
>#!/bin/csh
>echo Starting PPP
>/usr/bin/mesg n
>/bin/stty -tostop litout
>exec /usr/local/bin/pppd local kdebug 17 debug defaultroute bsdcomp 10,10
>\
>lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-failure 5 19200
>
>=============================
>
>- "pppup" script on remote (calling) machine:
>
>#!/bin/sh
>exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 lcp-echo-interval 15 \
>lcp-echo-failure 5 -crtscts defaultroute kdebug 17 debug modem -pap -chap
>\
>connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO
>DIAL TONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" "AT" "OK" ATL1M0DT8648062 TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT
>"" ogin: ppp assword: ppp PPP' \
>/dev/cufb 19200 lock
>
>=============================
I run PPP 2.2 between two systems with NEXTSTEP/FIP, and experienced
the same problems that Damon describes. I was able to eliminate the
them by removing the two echo commands from the pppd script.
Remove the following from your script:
lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-failure 5
and it should work. On my systems, with the echo commands in the scripts,
the ppp link would start 1 out of 3/4 times. Without the echo commands in
the script, ppp starts up every time.
John L. Chmielewski
jlc@attmail.com
From: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Usenet News / POP Client for NeXT ?
Date: 16 Jan 1995 09:41:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <950116154044.243AACUY.malc@white>
References: <3er681$qj4@ns.cityscape.co.uk>
> I'm in the process of setting a Cybercafe here in the UK, based
>on NeXT black boxes (and why not - we've got loads of them, and they look
>really cool). We've got the WWW client sorted - Omniweb has come on leaps
>and bounds since I last looked, but am stuck on the other packages, ie.
>news and mail.
>
Hey, excellent -- I'll come down when you're ready!
> As usual, I'm on a budget, so PD or shareware would be
>appreciated, but if there's some really solid, cheap commercial stuff out
>there, I would consider it.
>
Well, Eloquent supports POP3 and IMAP, and has a lot of configuration
options.
v 1.0.5 alpha has just been released to some of us and it's *good* (I've
been using a pre-alpha version for a month or so -- it was solid enough for
me) -- regular retail price is around $175, I think, and was worth it just
for 1.0.1d (the current official version). Very highly recommended.
Contact Wes or Cheri Smith at
eloquent_info@take3.com
Have fun,
mmalc.
posn. research facilitator
where institute for language speech and hearing
sheffield university
c/o department of computer science
regent court
211 portobello street
sheffield s1 4dp
england
vox (+44) 114 282 5594
fax (+44) 114 278 0972
email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome
Micro$oft mail at a push
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sorting incoming mail
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 15:48:08 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950116154808.243AACUZ.malc@white>
References: <3eskhu$c3e@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com> <3f0ln0$akr@viper.is.rest.tasc.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>It is possible possible to sort incoming mail based upon text in the
subject
>line or the sender name, with other possiblities that I have not explored
yet.
>To do so, you need two utilities:
>
Or simply buy Eloquent, which allows you to set up sorting rules.
(As well as giving you a GUI-based threaded newsreader! :-)
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: dougm@azrael (Douglas McClure)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Who owns Pinnacle's Transfer?
Date: 16 Jan 1995 15:44:09 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Message-ID: <3fe489$5kv@kelso.abbott.com>
Since Pinnacle seems no longer around, is there a company out there that
picked up their Transfer product? If not, does anyone know of a product
that performs similarly to theirs?
Please respond by mail: dougm@woodstock.abbott.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dkk@hodave (s)
Subject: Microsoft Word
Message-ID: <D2I932.Buq@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 15:45:02 GMT
Folks,
I have a need to run Microsoft Word 6.0, under black
hardware. Is this something reasonable to do using the Mac
version of Word and Executor(?spelling)? Is the Mac
version file compatible with the Windows version? Any other
thoughts? Please respond by email to d_k_kallman@att.com.
Please excuse if this has been discussed recently.
Thanks much.
Dave Kallman
----
Dave Kallman
AT&T, Room 2E-637, 101 Crawfords Corner Road, Holmdel, NJ 07733
d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)949-5153, fax: (908)834-6978
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: luke@research.canon.oz.au (Luke Kendall)
Subject: Re: Sorting incoming mail
Message-ID: <D2H8r1.Bt3@research.canon.oz.au>
Sender: news@research.canon.oz.au
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 02:40:12 GMT
hern@barclay.advtech.uswest.com (Steve Herndon) asks:
> Is it possible to automatically sort incoming mail into mail mbox's using
> Mail.app? I'm subscribed to several different mailing lists and would like
> to sort the mail from the various lists into the appropriate mbox's.
This is my good deed for the month ...
Yep. Look for a copy of sortmail (maybe find it in Volume 28 Issue 114 of
comp.sources.unix, or ask Ed.Falk@Eng.Sun.COM (Ed Falk), the author, or...).
Then take a look at the man entry for sortmail.
One proviso - you need to Add some new mailboxes for the new mail to arrive
in; since there's no lock on the mailbox when you `Compact' the mailbox in
Nextmail. What I do is:
1) read and whittle down the mail in the incoming mailbox.
2) copy/paste items I want to keep into my `archiving' mailboxes.
3) note the last item number
4) close and reopen the incoming mailbox - if nothing new has arrived,
I delete all the items and quickly compact.
That leaves a 1 second window in which you may lose mail. I just live
with this danger.
Sortmail itself is lean and clean:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 505 Oct 13 16:26 Makefile
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 8310 Oct 13 16:40 parse.c
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 44564 Oct 13 16:32 regex.c
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 8080 Sep 1 14:50 regex.h
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 41 Sep 1 14:50 sample.forward
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 1067 Sep 1 14:50 sample.sortmailrc
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 7787 Sep 1 14:50 sortmail.1
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 6349 Oct 13 16:26 sortmail.c
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 1128 Oct 13 16:38 sortmail.h
-rw-rw-r-- 1 luke 787 Sep 1 14:49 sortmail.post
Make a .sortmailrc file that looks something like:
set folder=Mail
/From ici-request/h:| ~luke/bin/addmail ~luke/Mailboxes/ici-in.mbox/mbox luke "More ici mail" /home/archive/sounds/train.snd
/From math-modesty-blaise-request/h:| ~luke/bin/addmail ~luke/Mailboxes/ZModesty-in.mbox/mbox luke "More Modesty mail" /home/archive/sounds/whip.snd
/junk/s:| ~luke/bin/addmail ~luke/Mailboxes/junk.mbox/mbox luke "More JUNK incoming mail" /LocalLibrary/Sounds/tardis.snd
Here's the `addmail' script. You get mail in your main mailbox that new
mail has arrived in mailbox XXX since you last looked at mailbox XXX.
It also plays a soundfile at that time. You might like to change it
to bonk or whatever for each piece of incoming mail.
One warning, though: break this script and you'll lose mail items.
Try out changes thoroughly on mail with a subject of `junk'.
Oh, and make sure there's no way for error messages to leak out of the
script - they may bounce back to the sender of the mail!
#!/bin/sh
# Add mail to a folder from stdin.
# If the folder had a last-access time of later than the last-mod time,
# actually mail $user that more mail has arrived.
# Usage:
# addmail destination-file-name user-to-mail-to subject-line [sound-file]
dest="$1"
user="$2"
subject="$3"
sndfile="$4"
if [ "x$sndfile" = "x" ]
then
sndfile=/home/archive/sounds/splat.snd
elif [ ! -s $sndfile ]
then
sndfile=/home/archive/sounds/splat.snd
fi
# Lock to ensure queued operation.
trap "rm -f /tmp/sortmaillock" 0 1 2 15
umask=`umask`
umask 777
while true
do
if echo > /tmp/sortmaillock 2> /dev/null
then
break
else
sleep 5
fi
done
umask $umask
# Get the access and mod times.
modtime="`ls -l $dest 2> /dev/null | awk '{print $5, $6, $7; }'`"
acctime="`ls -lu $dest 2> /dev/null | awk '{print $5, $6, $7; }'`"
if [ ! -s "$dest" -o "$modtime" != "$acctime" ]
then
#
# It's not safe to compact the mailbox if you hear the sound
# and still have the mailbox open from last time you read it.
#
[ -s $sndfile ] && /usr/bin/sndplay $sndfile > /dev/null 2>&1
cat <<-EOF | /usr/ucb/mail -s "$subject" "$user"
Access time was $modtime
Modif. time was $modtime
luke
EOF
fi
#
# Because sendmail doesn't lock when forwarding...
#
{ echo; dd ibs=512 obs=1024k; } >> $dest
/home/tosh/luke/bin/next/utime $dest
#----- end of script -----------
The last thing you do is create a .forward file in your home directory
that looks something like this:
"| /usr/local/bin/sortmail luke"
(provided your name is luke :-)
luke
--
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Canon Information Systems Research Australia | Phone: +61 2 805 2982
P.O. Box 313 North Ryde, NSW, Australia 2113 | Fax: +61 2 805 2929
From: brockway@u.washington.edu (Jared Brockway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SLIP question--duioctl
Date: 16 Jan 1995 17:22:13 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3fea05$33h@nntp1.u.washington.edu>
Keywords: slip duioctl
I'm having some problems configuring SLIP on a NeXTStation:
At startup, the TerminalReady LED on the modem lights for a
few seconds and goes out. The log file for SlipCommander reads:
> /usr/dialupip/bin/duioctl slip0 gsoftflags
duioctl DialUp IP [920904] slip0
Can't SIOCGSOFTFLAGS: No such device or address
Other comm programs can recognize and use the modem (it's a Hayes
Accura 14.4 connected to serial port A with a flow control
supporting cable. The device name is cufa.), but I can't get
SLIP to dial or respond in any way other than lighting the
modem's TR light for a few seconds.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
--
_______________________________________________________________________________
| "Just another hair in the drain of the || Jared Brockway |
| Internet's vast plumbing system..." || brockway@u.washington.edu |
|_____________________________________________________________________________|
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Do you want SoftPC 4.0 (i386 ) for m68k/HP NEXTSTEP? (final post)
Date: 16 Jan 1995 17:21:01 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3fe9tt$5fp@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: SoftPC,i386,m68k/HP
Last week I wrote:
: Hello all,
: I am compiling a list of users of SoftPC for m68k (and HP)
: hardware running NEXTSTEP who want to be able to run SoftPC 4.0
(protected
: mode). Insignia says that the market is a dead-end for black and too
: young for HP. So I want to see if there are enough of us out here that
may
: give Insignia a reason to make the port. They are working on protected
: mode for the other Unix OS's and Mac and it should not be to hard to get
: it moved from white NS to black NS (and HP). Please email me your name
: organization and upper bound for price that you will consider for the
: product and the number of licenses you need. I will forward this info
to
: the marketing manager here in the US. If you are behind some kind of
: firewall please find some way to get the info to me. I think it is best
: not to flood the News with this so send the info to me. I will respect
: everybody's privacy. I will send the list to Insignia in two weeks.
: Alan
I am refreshing the thread. I stand corrected on the terminology,
protected mode is i286 class, I meant i386 class emulation. Anyway, at
the end of this week I will forward the list to Insiginia. At present, I
estimate about 100 copies of m68k are desired and 5 HP versions (not much
of an incentive for Insignia so far!). PS tell a friend or a reseller
that might get request for these apps.
Alan
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WANTED: AutoCAD for NeXT
Date: 16 Jan 1995 18:00:11 GMT
Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fec7b$945@pong.ping.at>
References: <HORNOF.95Jan9190420@oregon.irisa.fr>
Originator: wa@s051
In article <HORNOF.95Jan9190420@oregon.irisa.fr> hornof@oregon.irisa.fr
(Luke Hornof) writes:
>
> I'm looking for AutoCAD (or something equivalent) for the NeXT. Does
someone
> know if this exists, where I can get it, how much it costs, if I can
demo it
> before buying, etc. Or even if there is some cheap public domain
program
> around?
AutoCAD is definitely not available on NeXT and will not be in the
foreseeable future. They are sort of married with Windoze...
- Wolfgang
---
Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at
Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690
A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817
Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
--
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Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690
A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817
Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT FAQ -- Your reply email is bad
Date: 16 Jan 1995 18:25:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fedmd$hfk@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116140134.26082A-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950116140134.26082A-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen
de> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU> writes:
> I need YOU for helping me with:
>
> - sending me submissions you want to be included in a FAQ
Bernhard --
Your reply email (scholz@tu) is an insufficient address. Please post your
correct email on the net.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (g.c.l.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: Geneology program for NSFIP ?
Date: 16 Jan 1995 18:38:03 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <3feeeb$4g@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Hello.
I am looking for any Geneology <sp?> for NeXTstep/Intel.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Gary
--
__________________________________________________________________
gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please
Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list
__________________________________________________________________
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From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: Re: Real 3.3 Mail shortcomings?
Message-ID: <D2IHtp.4KF@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
References: <D2Cpq2.102@onevision.de> <3f8oov$30k@transfer.stratus.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 18:53:49 GMT
In article <3f8oov$30k@transfer.stratus.com>,
Howard Ship <hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com> wrote:
>I'm surprised that Mail doesn't integrate with your address book, the way
>the FAX panel does. For many people, I have to maintain the two lists. I
>wish I could drag an address card to Mail and have it send mail to that
>person.
Mynah does support the address books.
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/demos/mail/Mynah-0.8ay.tar.gz
--
Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130
Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063
2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558
<fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: kcb@coyote.caltech.edu (KC Border)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: 16 Jan 1995 20:12:44 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
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References: <3f57bl$vki@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
In article <3f57bl$vki@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> gerdes@ibm.net writes:
> After installing NeXTSTEP 3.3 for the Motorola from scratch (new hard
> disk) I am disappointed to discover that LaTeX is no longer included in
> the software distribution, although TeX still is. It came with 3.2 so
> what has changed? Anyone know about how to get LaTeX2e that will
> run under 3.3 on a NeXTcube?
>
> Geoff Gerdes
> e-mail: gerdes@nicco.sscnet.ucla.edu
> nextmail: gerdes@jevons.sscnet.ucla.edu
If you read the Release Notes for 3.3, they state that you must install the NextTeX.pkg
manually in order to get LaTeX. (I don't know why.) Its on the CD in the NextCD folder.
Unfortunmately it is LaTeX 2.09, not LaTeX2e.
--
Kim C. Border
Associate Professor of Economics
Division of the Humanities and Social Sciences
228-77
California Institute of Technology
Pasadena, California 91125 USA
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Terminal Emulator with 3270 Capability
Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:07:01 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3fen5l$s4o@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3f6sa0$1ju@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
In article <3f6sa0$1ju@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
a6213gri@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Michael Alexander) writes:
> Does anybody know of a terminal emulator that can do with 3270 over
async
> lines-any info would be appreciated. Greetings,
>
> Mike
>
> Sig under construction
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Michael Alexander Email: Michael.Alexander@serv.univie.ac.at
There is a version of Cables by Yrrid that provides 3270 emulation. Let
me know if you'd like more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: bjanzen@rmii.com (Barry Janzen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Draw.app inside IB? FOUND IT!
Date: 16 Jan 1995 23:47:51 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc
Message-ID: <3ff0j7$1i1@potogold.rmii.com>
Thanks to all who responded to my request for something like Draw.app
inside of Interface Builder. Three of them looked pretty much the same -
UHOOP (University of Houston EE Dept), IBLines by Don McGregor, and
RDRGadgets Palette.
But what REALLY caught my eye (if you see the icon you'll get the pun) is
HyperSense (on ftp.cs.orst.edu under pub/next/hypersense ). It's
HyperCard on steroids, and while it may work somewhat differently than a
typical NEXTSTEP Project, I'll take that in exchange for the dynamic
drawing PLUS some level of compatibility to Mac/Windows/X11/OS2 HyperCard
products.
I'm curious as to other developer's responses to HyperSense - to me it
sure beats the pants off of most of the other things (palettes, demos,
etc..) I've seen on NEXTSTEP. I'll summarize the responses.
Barry Janzen
bjanzen@lexmark.com (work - NeXTMail ok)
bjanzen@rmii.com (home)
From: rmasse@cnri.reston.va.us (Roger E. Masse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTArchie for Intel?
Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:34:35 GMT
Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3feopb$9up@news.CNRI.Reston.Va.US>
Keywords: archie Intel
I've pulled down the NeXTArchie from both ftp.sura.net and ftp.uu.net
with the same restult: Lots of compiler warnings and a linker failure
when linking against the libfilter.a and libpfs.a... both motorolla
archive files :( The distribution does not appear to include source
to build these from scratch...
Anyone built NeXTArchie for Intel?
Regards,
Roger E. Masse, Systems Engineer
Corporation for National Research Initiatives
1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100
Reston, Virginia, USA 22091
Internet: rmasse@CNRI.Reston.VA.US
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT FAQ
Date: 16 Jan 1995 22:08:31 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
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References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950116140134.26082A-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950116140134.26082A-100000@hphalle2d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@TU> writes:
>
> No, this isn't a new NeXT FAQ!
>
> BUT: I'm currently recompiling the old FAQs and inserting new stuff to
> compile a new FAQ. I am pretty sure that I can't maintain such a big work
> very long, so I need _YOU!_
What you need is to be aware that you are duplicating the
efforts of others! I've been working to update the old
FAQs, as have some other folks that are assisting that
effort. You should have checked with me (my email address
is listed on every old FAQ file) before wasting your time.
If you'll post or email a valid email address, I'll be glad to
see if anything you've done can be merged with the Real
FAQs.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: harrap@geol.queensu.ca (Rob Harrap)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WANTED: AutoCAD for NeXT
Date: 17 Jan 1995 01:42:51 GMT
Organization: Queen's University, Kingston
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ff7ar$i1f@knot.queensu.ca>
References: <3fec7b$945@pong.ping.at>
In article <3fec7b$945@pong.ping.at> Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at>
writes:
> In article <HORNOF.95Jan9190420@oregon.irisa.fr> hornof@oregon.irisa.fr
> (Luke Hornof) writes:
> >
> > I'm looking for AutoCAD (or something equivalent) for the NeXT. Does
> someone
> > know if this exists, where I can get it, how much it costs, if I can
> demo it
> > before buying, etc. Or even if there is some cheap public domain
> program
> > around?
>
> AutoCAD is definitely not available on NeXT and will not be in the
> foreseeable future. They are sort of married with Windoze...
>
> - Wolfgang
>
> ---
A bit of a correction is in order.
AutoCAD is not 'married' with Windoze. They are married to high sales
platforms. Such as Solaris, AIX, Windows etc. They recently dumped Mac,
since sales were pitiful for a good product, and never even considered
NeXTstep. They DID have a group looking at NS for something other than
CAD, but whether this was Xanadu or a VR thing I don't know.
If you NEED AutoCAD, and have a network, you CAN run it under X and use
coXist or another X product to use it from a NeXT. This isn't a pale shade
of a NeXT program, but it works.
Personally I think AutoCAD is overpriced and has a dinosaur interface. If
there was a low end CAD package for the NeXT that had a scripting
environment that was even a small fraction as powerful as AutoLISP I'd buy
it and kiss AutoCAD goodbye.
Just my .02$
Rob Harrap
Digital Data Manager
Western Superior Lithoprobe
Dept. Geological Sciences
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario
harrap@geol.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "Kathi Fisler" <kfisler@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: mouse control in EmacsApp3.0
Message-ID: <1995Jan16.232931.10633@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 23:29:28 -0500
I'm running NS 3.0 (black) and am using EmacsApp-3.0. I'm having
problems getting emacs to respond to mouse activity (nothing happens
when I click the mouse). I've tried loading eterm-mouse.el manually,
but that doesn't seem to help. Does anyone have an idea what the
problem might be?
Thanks,
Kathi
--
Kathi Fisler kfisler@cs.indiana.edu
Visual Inference and Hardware Methods Laboratories, Indiana University
From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: System keeps crashing --HELP!
Date: 17 Jan 1995 15:21:52 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <3ffgl0$cdm@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
References: <3euq5r$bss@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
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Colin Allen <callen@spot.colorado.edu> writes:
>I have been getting a series of workspace manager crashes and kernel
>panics. I have reinstalled the entire OS from CD-ROM, and the problem
>persists. The WM crashes leave DPS error messages in
>/private/adm/messages, usually of the "Error writing to device"
>category. After a WM crash it is sometimes impossible to login
>without rebooting first. The kernel panics involve instuction
>exceptions. Could this be a hardware problem?
>These problems started yesterday afternoon. Prior to this the system
>had been stable for 4 months.
>System details: Pentium 66Mhz/Premiere PCI Motherboard; IBM 1 Gig SCSI
>Disk; TEAC CD-ROM; 16 MB RAM; Diamond Stealth 64; NEXTSTEP 3.2.
I have been experiencing similar problems on and off for the last 6-8
months with both 3.1 and 3.2 installations. I believe that the problems
are related to race conditions on the motherboard backplane, although
all I have to support this is suspicion.
I have worked around the problem by reducing the speed of the machine,
through the CMOS parameters. Try increasing the wait states on memory,
disabling write through caching, decreasing the bus speed, whatever
else your board allows, and then enable them again as the system becomes
more stable.
This is a proverbial pain, and I welcome any other suggestions myself.
Just for curiosity: what SCSI card do you have? I use an Adaptec 1542C,
and I suspect this beastie to be the culprit.
--
========================================================================
Craig Smith (61 3) 353 2471 cs@kau1.kodak.com
Office Imaging Division Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: 17 Jan 1995 05:14:19 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ffjnb$16i8@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3f57bl$vki@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <Pine.HPP.3.91.950113121232.20274D-100000@hphalle10i.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <3fbt8u$6bs@crcnis3.unl.edu>
Rex Dieter (rdieter@math.unl.edu) wrote:
Yes, you are wrong. You do not need anything from 2.09 to build LaTeX2e.
Actually some things may cause confusion, so in a sense it is better
to start with a clean slate.
You need initex (and virtex) though.
Michal
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: what does .compressed mean?
Date: 17 Jan 1995 04:35:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ffhep$51n@bones.et.byu.edu>
References: <3fcdsp$k4b@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
pcu@umich.edu writes
)
) compressed == .tar.Z (if you have 'compress' set up as your compression
) program, you could set it to the gnu utilities, etc).
Warning: compressed == .gnutar.Z and NOT .tar.Z!
On smaller things this distinction is moot, but many NEXTSTEP
projects have very long file names in them--and when those file
names exceed tar's 100 character limit GNU's tar and the old
tar work differently. The upshot is that untarring some
compressed files with the old tar will not work correctly.
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se (Peter Trygg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: 17 Jan 1995 08:33:57 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
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References: <3fbt8u$6bs@crcnis3.unl.edu>
In article <3fbt8u$6bs@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
writes:
> Unfortunately (correct me if I'm wrong), you need LaTeX 2.09 to build
> LaTeX2e.
>
> --
> | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate |
> | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
Nop!, You only need tex (and the LaTeX2e sources) to build LaTeX2e.
It works fine under NS 3.2.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Trygg peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se
Department of Theoretical Physics
Uppsala University
-------------------------------------------------------------
From: peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se (Peter Trygg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 17 Jan 1995 08:40:32 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <3ffvq0$19ls@columba.udac.uu.se>
Is there a FORTRAN compiler for NeXTSTEP runing (well) on a HP.
Thanks, Peter
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Trygg peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se
Department of Theoretical Physics
Uppsala University
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From: thyl@muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WANTED: AutoCAD for NeXT
Date: 17 Jan 1995 11:57:43 +0100
Organization: MUC.DE - Individual Network (IN) Domain Munich
Message-ID: <3fg7r7$efq@colin.muc.de>
References: <HORNOF.95Jan9190420@oregon.irisa.fr>
In article <HORNOF.95Jan9190420@oregon.irisa.fr>,
Luke Hornof <hornof@oregon.irisa.fr> wrote:
>
>I'm looking for AutoCAD (or something equivalent) for the NeXT. Does someone
>know if this exists, where I can get it, how much it costs, if I can demo it
>before buying, etc. Or even if there is some cheap public domain program
>around?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Luke
You must be joking, AutoCAD for NeXT! phrphr. I alco do not know of any public domain program, but if you ccan spare some money, check out ACADEMY from Cube (info at academy@cube.de). It is not that expensive. I also have in my extensive archive a leaflet of a program named MEGACAD. This was only an announcement and I dont know if it ever showed up. The developer is/was: MEDICOM GmbH, Bundesallee 114; 12161 Berlin, Germany, Fax +49-30-852-1355. Thsi was a pre desaster leaflet, so I'm sceptic if they are still in the market.
Hope this was of some help.
Thyl Engelhardt
.s
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u must be joking, AutoCAD for NeXT! I also do not know of a public domain program, but if you can spare some money, check out
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT FAQ
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:55:52 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
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On 16 Jan 1995, Nathan F. Janette wrote:
> What you need is to be aware that you are duplicating the
> efforts of others! I've been working to update the old
> FAQs, as have some other folks that are assisting that
> effort. You should have checked with me (my email address
> is listed on every old FAQ file) before wasting your time.
>
> If you'll post or email a valid email address, I'll be glad to
> see if anything you've done can be merged with the Real
> FAQs.
I'm sorry to hear, this.
If tried two times to reach you via e-mail, I also tried to reach
the people at digifix.com to get more information about their www-server
and their link to your FAQ.
I didn't get any answers, yet.
Also I've heard from other people which had similar expiriences with
your e-mail (note: the e-mail _was_ delivered, I got no bounce!)
and got no answer. I've heard of two other who also started
working on a FAQ, because they got no answer. Also I have looked in
news.answer and noticed, that a NeXT FAQ is no longer registrated.
Maybe it was my fault not to post to the newsgroups when I _started_
working on the FAQ :)
I assumed you were tired on working/hearing about a NeXT FAQ and started
my work. Also I didn't see any posting of yours which is referencing
update work on the FAQ. Of course I'll send you all my articles I've
currently collected if you really go on with your FAQ.
I think it's not a bad thing to go on with already written FAQ's. I didn't
wanted to steal your efforts. I've rewritten and redesigned most of
the FAQ already to texinfo, which has the pro to be convertable to HTML and
other formats easy, and I'm currently adding new postings.
I'm really sorry that we two got into conflict. I'll stop my work now and
hope to see you continuing your work soon. (By the way: this gives me
back more time for my study ;) )
Best regards, greetings, apologies,
Boerny.
P.S. As I stated in 'Errata: NeXT FAQ'. I did something wrong with my pine
configuration. You should be able to reach me be e-mail, too.
____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Errata 2: NeXT FAQ
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:02:37 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
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I've got a posting/reply by Nathan who was/is the original author of the
NeXT FAQ. I thought he stopped working, but he didn't! (see Re: NeXT FAQ)
Because of his posting I've stopped my work. I suggest all the people who
already replied to me to send their submissions to Nathan. I'll forward
all articles I got already to Nathan.
Sorry for the inconvinience,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tcsh don't source cshrc.std anymore?
Date: 17 Jan 1995 14:22:26 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3fgjr2$ve5@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Keywords: tcsh,environment,cshrc
Hello there,
I'm having sort of trouble with the behaviour of csh and tcsh on my system.
Those used to source /etc/cshrc.std before reading ~/.cshrc - like explained in
the corresponding fileheaders.
Since I upgraded from NS 3.0 to NS 3.3 they won't do that anymore; that gives
me some pains because I used this feature to configure our TeX system.
A stupid mistake or what?
Any help (HELP!) is appreciated!!!!
Thanks,
a worried Rainer F. at UNIWUE
-------------------------------------
"\n" (thanks!) rainer@picard.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PrintManager not printing my jobs
Date: 17 Jan 1995 15:30:07 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3fgnpv$hub@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi,
I have got a NeXT cube connected to a NeXT 400DPI laser, when I
start up PrintManager I can print the test page OK, however if I send
it a print job from any other application the job appears in the
queue. The queue gives the number of pages in the job but the size
entry is blank and the job never appears.
If I log in as root I can print OK from all applications, I assume it
must be a file access thing - but which file ??
Any help appreciated.
Rupert.
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 17 Jan 1995 16:28:03 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3fgr6j$2aod@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3ffvq0$19ls@columba.udac.uu.se>
In article <3ffvq0$19ls@columba.udac.uu.se> peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se
(Peter Trygg) writes:
> Is there a FORTRAN compiler for NeXTSTEP runing (well) on a HP.
>
> Thanks, Peter
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Peter Trygg peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se
> Department of Theoretical Physics
> Uppsala University
> -------------------------------------------------------------
6 months or so ago, the latest was that Absoft had not made up
their minds about a ns/hppa fortran port. not sure on the status
of other compiler companies. gregg, do you know the latest?
for many of us, f2c simply will not work.
a fortran compiler is the last thing my group needs to unshackle us
from hpux dependency. ... and the remote control...
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pdepuydt@uia.ac.be (Peter.Depuydt)
Subject: PCB design system
Message-ID: <1995Jan17.161755.2206@reks.uia.ac.be>
Sender: news@reks.uia.ac.be (USENET News System)
Organization: U.I.A.
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:17:55 GMT
Hi,
I am searching for a program to design electronic shemas and convert
them into prints.
I know their is a program called PLATON which does that, but I cannot
find. Since I am still a student, any free- , shareware solutions are
welcome
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTArchie for Intel?
Date: 17 Jan 1995 03:44:28 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ffees$qcb@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3feopb$9up@news.CNRI.Reston.Va.US>
rmasse@cnri.reston.va.us (Roger E. Masse) writes:
> I've pulled down the NeXTArchie from both ftp.sura.net and
> ftp.uu.net with the same restult: Lots of compiler warnings and
> a linker failure when linking against the libfilter.a and
> libpfs.a... both motorolla archive files :( The distribution
> does not appear to include source to build these from scratch...
It was renamed quite awhile ago. It's just "Archie.app" now.
Try ftp.cs.orst.edu
in pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info
or pub/next/sources/wide-area-info
for files that start with Archie*
I don't know that this works on NS/Intel, but it'd be a better
starting point. Check the dates on the various files there to
see which one is the most likely one. Actually there are a
boatload of other versions of "archie" on ftp.cs.orst.edu, but
the above are the most likely ones to be current.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: App to view MS WIndows Metafiles??
Date: 17 Jan 1995 19:25:30 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3fh5ja$n17@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Does anyone know of an app that can open/view a Windows metafile (.wmf)
and save it to some other format? I've tried PixelMagician.app,
ImageViewer.app and OmniImage.app and none of them can handle it.
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT FAQ
Date: 17 Jan 1995 17:49:14 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fgvuq$8es@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950117123604.27534A-100000@hphalle9g.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950117123604.27534A-100000@hphalle9g.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
> I'm really sorry that we two got into conflict. I'll stop my work now and
> hope to see you continuing your work soon. (By the way: this gives me
> back more time for my study ;) )
I'd like to thank Boerny for his fine work adding to
the FAQs. I'm merging his updates with my updates and
others, and expect to release the new FAQs very soon.
The success or failure of the FAQ effort depends much
upon everyone contributing to the effort, so once the
new FAQs are released, please send in your comments and
suggestions.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: olga@cajal.med.Virginia.EDU (Olga V. Yousukhno)
Subject: Want to find SciPlot
Message-ID: <D2KAyu.5z@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 18:20:53 GMT
We 've just lost one of hard drives with Sciplot on it. I am used to
SciPlot and want to get it. Could anybody help with suggestions where to
look for it?
Thanks.
olga
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Peter Davis <davisp@cua.edu>
Subject: HTTP server sw for nextstep 486
Message-ID: <D2KGLA.71I@news.cua.edu>
Sender: news@news.cua.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 20:22:22 GMT
I'm looking for graphical HTTP server software for the Next which will run on a 486.
OmniWeb is a client I guess, but I would like something akin to MacHTTP.
Thank you.
PWD
davisp@cua.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTArchie for Intel?
Date: 17 Jan 1995 21:59:13 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fhejh$asu@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <3ffees$qcb@usenet.rpi.edu>
Of course, whenever I want to use an archie, the servers at the other
sites are almost always busy.
Because there is much less feedback/intelligence from the NS app than you
can get by doing it by hand, I would not recommend the NS app route (even
though I like the program itself). (The program was much more useful when
archie servers tended to be available, but this is no longer true.)
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance (ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu)
AGSM at UCLA
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HTTP server sw for nextstep 486
Date: 17 Jan 1995 21:15:36 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fhc1o$o0t@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <D2KGLA.71I@news.cua.edu>
In article <D2KGLA.71I@news.cua.edu> Peter Davis <davisp@cua.edu> writes:
> I'm looking for graphical HTTP server software for the Next
> which will run on a 486.
Graphical server software? I didn't know that existed. But anyway the NCSA
httpd compiles and runs out of the box on both black and white hardware.
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does NetWare Client˙˙˙˙˙˙
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 19:37:00 GMT
Message-ID: <9501171431001214@btf.com>
Organization: BTF BBS, San Jose Ca. 408-363-9766
Distribution: world
References: <3bts5k$ori@paladin.american.edu> <1994Dec3.144057.29156@olaf.well
ley.edu>
TT> I asked this question before so if anyone has an answer I am
TT> interested also. However, as far as I know it would need an upgrade
TT> to the NetWare client as Novell 4.0 has a much diffrent login then
TT> 3.12.
Speaking as someone who knows the Netware/dos/windows side of things,
I'd GUESS that you would be ok. In theory. Only one way to be sure
though.
They do have a 4.1 beta test offer, It's still good, I just called
$40 plus s/h (total less than $50) for a 3 user server, and you can
install an unlimeted number of servers on a network with it. (That's so
you can do a NDS tree merge, and other nifty features).
1-800-395-7135
1-510-463-7391
I've played with it, it works, you can answer the question for less than
$50. You do need a 386 with 8mb and 60-100mb for the Netware partition.
Ronald Pottol
p.s Anyone need a CNE with WIDE ranging platform intrests?
* RM 1.3 * Eval Day 162 * My skull is bigger on the inside than the outside!
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: *** DFG_RT software for Sound & Fun ***
Message-ID: <1995Jan17.184042.32590@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 17 Jan 95 18:40:42 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
PRESS RELEASE ,January 12, 1995
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
For more information please contact
===================================
Digital Recordings - Advanced R & D
5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H-1Y5, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
DFG - Introduction
==================
DFG_RTdemo.app is a demo module for real-time synthesis of the
sinusoidal (pure tone) signal.Signals are generated in real time
and do not require the DSP processor (which is not available in
some NeXTSTEP computers).This version should work on all Motorola
and Intel-based NeXTSTEP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* =>
3.* equipped in D/A converters. Sun and HP version of DFG_RT would
be available at the end of January 1995.
This program works very nicely with Digital Oscilloscope and
Spectrum Analyzer (both applications come with NeXT) and any
recording / editing software. Playback and recording/analysis
of the signal could be done simultaneously since DSP chip is not
used and main processor is used only 2-3% during signal production.
DFG_RT is an ideal signal source for research and teaching in the
fields of acoustics, psychoacoustics, electronics, electroacoustics,
physics, mechanics, vibration measurements, architecture, audiology
and transducer testing.
DFG Software Specifications / Parameters
=========================================
o Stereo output (independent R and L channel)
o Frequency adjustable continuously from 0 to 22,000 Hz.
o Frequency stability : +/- 0.0001 Hz at 1000 Hz
o Amplitude adjustable continuously from -140 to 0 dB
o Amplitude stability : +/- 0.00026 dB at 0 dB
o Phase adjustable continuously from 0 to 360 degrees.
o S/N ratio = 95 dB
DFG_RT Modules
===============
Currently there are 8 modules available in DFG_RT software :
DFG_RTsine.app - for generating pure tones.
DFG_RTsquare.app - for generating square wave.
DFG_RTtriangular.app - for generating triangular wave.
DFG_RTsawtooth.app - for generating sawtooth wave.
DFG_RTpulse.app - for generating delta-pulse train.
DFG_RTnoise.app - for generating white noise in 0->22,050 Hz
range.
DFG_RTnoiseNB.app - for generating narrow band noise from
100->200 Hz to 11,000->22,000 range.
DFG_RTnoiseNBv.app - for generating narrow band noise with
bandwidth adjustable from 20 Hz to 2,000 Hz
and center frequency adjustable from 1 Hz
to 22,000 Hz.
DFG_RTdemo.app is available on the following FTP sites
======================================================
( please look for file DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z )
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl/pub2/next/submissions
==> Note: Also you can obtain latest software via NeXTmail
from mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: Chinese language text editing?
Message-ID: <1995Jan17.230508.1609@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 23:05:08 GMT
I am trying to find a way to do Chinese text editing on my NeXT. I downloaded
the KaiSu.pkg, which is a public domain font, but I don't know how to input
characters. I emailed KaiSu@twnug.info.com but the mail bounced back.
Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Michael Chwe
--
Michael Suk-Young Chwe chwe@uchicago.edu (NeXTMail OK)
__|__ | / _| ( ) Economics Department, University of Chicago
/ \ | /\__| __|_|__ 1126 E 59th Street, Chicago, IL 60637 USA
__|__ | / ( ) Facsimile 312-702-8490
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: WAISstation.app 1.9 on NeXT
Message-ID: <D2KJtv.Hyo@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:32:19 GMT
I'm mystified trying to use WAISstation.app v 1.9 on my NeXT, and never
having used a wais client on another platform, have little to go on.
It comes with a sources directory containing
directory-of-servers.src
wais-docs.src
etc.
Whatever I try to search for, WAISstation seems to look in my local
directory, ~/Library/WAIS/sources/, which doesn't exist (WAISstation itself
is installed in /LocalLibrary/WAIS, per the docs). How do I access external
wais sources?
Please reply directly.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University Voice: 416 736 5118
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word
References: <D2I932.Buq@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 09:12:37 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jan17.091237.2494@proximus.north.de>
In article <D2I932.Buq@nntpa.cb.att.com>, s <d_k_kallman@att.com> wrote:
>I have a need to run Microsoft Word 6.0, under black
As I have the same need (unfortunately) for four years now... ;-)
>hardware. Is this something reasonable to do using the Mac
>version of Word and Executor(?spelling)? Is the Mac
I tested Executor, here are some remarks.
* I am not sure if Executor runs Word 6.0, I only tested 5.1, which runs
ok. (The info panel of Executor only guarantees compatibility to version
5.x) You should ask the developer or test it your own before buying.
* Still Executor crashes from time to time with Word 5.1 (I have to
admit that I work with huge documents...)
* The CPU-performance is great, but the screen performance... Clearly it
is because of using DPS on the NeXT, but using Word/Executor on a
large screen is a pain. (scrolling seems to take forever.) On a small
screen it's similar to a Mac classic (graphics are displayed faster).
Sometimes you get displaying errors, but that is not so bad, as you
only need to scroll a little back and forward to make them go away.
* Note that not all programs run with executor.
>version file compatible with the Windows version? Any other
There are 3 different Word/Windoof versions:
- Word/win 1.x
- Word/win 2.x
- Word/win 6.x
You have to convert Word/Mac documents to either word/win version before
you can use them there. I don't know if the conversion is lossy or
not. I never run a Word/win program (I hate DOS/Windows - but besides, I
also hate Word...). I only know the the need of resources for Winword
6.x is abnormally (you need at least a 486pc with 8MB RAM, for a dos
machine that can only use 640KB directly, ridiculous...).
>thoughts? Please respond by email to d_k_kallman@att.com.
Maybe you should think about buying a hardware emulator (daydream) or
a second computer (used Macs should be pretty cheap) if you need word
very often and urgent.
Otherwise you could check out the different text programs directly
available on NEXTSTEP. OpenWrite (spelling?) is said to read and write
Word documents. Any comments on that? How well does it do its job? (I
have to work with documents >>2 MByte, with eps graphics in it, many
different indices, forming books of >500 pages, footnotes, complicated
(at least talking about the abilities of Word) layouts and so on...)
[that's the reason why I use a quadra for word at work]
Also there should exist a filter for Frame<>Word conversion. Has
anyone experience with that filter? How well does it work? Can you use
it with NEXTSTEP?
Finally - how about porting Word (yuck) to NEXTSTEP, MS? Oh well...
Gerhard.
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From: mark@nextstep (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages demo can not run!
Date: 18 Jan 1995 05:08:01 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Message-ID: <3fi7nh$c7e@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I just try the Pages demo App in the 3party CD-ROM coming
with my NS 3.3 and get the error message:
" Pages is unable to locate any Design Models. Please obtain and store
Design Models in the Pages/Designs folder."
then, where to find Designs folder for Pages?
Mark
From: bpetry@wiley.csusb.edu (Bonnie Petry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mosaic
Date: 18 Jan 1995 07:12:49 GMT
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Message-ID: <3fif1h$62c@news.csus.edu>
Is there a version of Mosaic for NextStep 2.2? Either binaries or source.
From: mtie@carleton.edu (Michael Tie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: New version of TeX
Date: 17 Jan 1995 22:19:18 GMT
Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA
Message-ID: <3fhfp6$nte@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu>
Keywords: TeX, install
I am attempting to install the new version of TeX (3.1415) on my NeXT.
We're running version 3.2 of NeXTStep. We're having a bundle of trouble
with the X11 libraries and would appreciate some advice from anyone who
has installed this on their NeXT.
Thanks in advance.
--mtie
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Michael N. Tie mtie@carleton.edu
Department of Math/CS phn: (507) 663-4067
Carleton College fax: (507) 663-4312
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Can't load help files anymore !!!
Message-ID: <D2IBt3.1A8@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 16:43:51 GMT
Hi,
On many applications, whenever I click on Info->Help, a panel pops out
telling me : "TIFFany2 must be linked to libIndexing in order to load
help" (in TIFFany's case, of course).
Now, I don't know what that libIndexing is and it never bothered me before
I upgraded to NS 3.3. Since then, I can't load help files from many apps
because of that problem.
Could anyone help and tell me how to link my apps to libIndexing ? Don't
forget to tell me WHAT to link to libIndexing and how to do that.
Thanks a lot
---
Dr. Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
From: Brian Dear <70034.1062@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite --- tell me more about it!
Date: 18 Jan 1995 14:29:46 GMT
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Message-ID: <3fj8kq$r7o$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
We recently broke down and bought Pages software to try it out.
We use Frame and Edit for our word processing needs on NEXTSTEP,
but with Frame quoting over FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS for two Frame 3.2
licenses, we figured it was time to look at Pages.
Well, we're disappointed. The Mail Merge is pretty, but not usable
in a business environment with multiple users on a net. Making the
slightest change to a word here or there seems to involve so many
"style steps" that some of our people are begging for us to switch
to MS Word.
Now... I hear about OpenWrite. I'd like to get some opinions on this.
Does OpenWrite do MailMerge? Does it do it in such a way that the
documents that are created are created as separate documents, or
appended pages of a single document? (Try doing a Mail Merge on
200 addresses in Pages, and you get 200 SEPARATE FILES that you have
to print out individually!!)
Any suggestions, feedback, advice, etc., would be welcome and
appreciated!
-- brian dear
coconut computing, inc.
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where can I get MATLAB for NeXT?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 15:43:08 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fjcuc$dcf@news.iastate.edu>
Keywords: MATLAB
Subject says it all.
--
*******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
* Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) *
* --------------------------------------------------------- *
* He who throws mud loses ground. *
****************************************************************
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Talus-NCR Driver for 3.3
Date: 18 Jan 1995 16:15:42 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3fjere$nmv@news.blkbox.com>
I know that a lot of you have been waiting for 3.3 updates for your NCR
drivers and you won't have to wait much longer. We are now beta testing
the 3.3 driver and we hope to have it ready to ship very shortly.
If you would like to beta test the driver, please send me email at:
steve@talus.com
Please include information about your hardware configuration and
peripherals, and verify that you can receive NEXTMAIL.
If you would like information on updating your driver from 3.2 to 3.3,
please send email to: info@talus.com
If you don't already have the NCR card or the driver and would like to
purchase either or both, please send email to: tanya@talus.com
Steve Sarich III
President
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
Voice: 713-578-1434
Fax: 713-578-1815
email: info@talus.com
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Samba on a NeXT. . .
Date: 18 Jan 1995 17:36:28 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3fjjis$afv@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I have got Samba working on my NeXT cube (with help from the local
UNIX gurus) and it all works fine for directories from a WfWG PC.
However when I try to print to the NeXT laser printer samba seems to
put the job in /usr/spool/samba, rather than
/usr/spool/NeXT/LocalPrinter and hence the job never appears in the
local print queue.
Samba appears to be picking up the printer information from the
/etc/printcap file but I don't think that it is using the correct
program to process the job with.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers Rupert.
E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (No NeXTMail please !)
From: hunke@ernie.SFSU.EDU (Martin Hunke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Neural NeXTworks?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 17:25:27 GMT
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fjiu7$jjv@news.csus.edu>
References: <1995Jan14.182019.1648@sultan.ping.de>
In article <1995Jan14.182019.1648@sultan.ping.de> erik@sultan.ping.de
(Erik Doernenburg) writes:
>
> True. I got that version a couple of weeks ago and with the patches
> developed by Randolf Werner <evol@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> everything
> works fine now. I have to say that I'm quite impressed by that package
> although it can be a bit awkward to create new training sets.
>
Since I have some trouble compiling SNNS on NeXT, I would highly
appreciate any hint to the following questions:
- Where can I obtain these patches?
- How do I run the graphical interface?
Thank you very much in advance
Martin Hunke
San Francisco State University
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word
Date: 18 Jan 1995 18:29:37 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3fjmmh$g41@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <D2I932.Buq@nntpa.cb.att.com>
In article <D2I932.Buq@nntpa.cb.att.com> dkk@hodave (s) writes:
:Folks,
:
:I have a need to run Microsoft Word 6.0, under black
:hardware. Is this something reasonable to do using the Mac
:version of Word and Executor(?spelling)? Is the Mac
:version file compatible with the Windows version? Any other
:thoughts? Please respond by email to d_k_kallman@att.com.
:
Executor is an excellent program. Another option is the Quick Daydream
hardware, which turns black hardware into an honest-to-god Macintosh. The
price is $655. More information is below my signature. And of course,
its available from OpenSource at 800-TRY-OPEN.
-----
Garrett L. Rice
OpenSource, Inc. "The Single Source For NEXTSTEP Stuff"
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
303.861.2393 FAX
garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
*My Opinions Are My Own
-----
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PLUS: SEE US AT NEXTSTEP EXPO, June 21-23, BOOTH #224 (QUIX
Computerware)
"We tried to choke Daydream with Photoshop, XPress, and a variety of
accounting applications from Microsoft Word to Peachtree's Insight.
THE RESULT: NO PROBLEMS. Installation took less than five minutes."
"For NeXT users with Mac needs, this package is a dream come true,
providing authentic Mac system software with the performance of a
Quadra 900 AT A FRACTION OF THE COST."
NEXTWORLD Magazine 4/94
******** Money Back Guarantee
As a service to our direct customers, QUIX now offers a 30 day money-back
guarantee. You'll find more information at the end of this document.
******** NEW PRINTER DRIVER ***
Our new NeXT* Laser Printer Driver is now shipping with Daydream. It
provides
excellent printing capability with existing Laser Printers, while
providing
full compatibility with Macintosh applications.
The printer driver works with all NeXT* computers, and is the key to turn
all
of your valuable equipment into a high-performance Macintosh workstation.
******** FULL ADB Support ***
Turbo Computers using the new ADB keyboards are now fully supported. Also,
it's
now possible to run dongle-protected Mac software, and to take advantage
of
ADB-devices found in the Macintosh world.
******** Full 68040 Floating Point Support ***
Calculation-intensive applications are now supported with the
Floating-Point
capabilities of the 68040 CPU. This results in much better performance
with
3-D rendering and image processing applications, like Adobe Dimensions. On
68030 cubes, the built-in FPU is still supported.
******** WHERE TO GET DAYDREAM ***
--> from QUIX:
QUIX sells Daydream directly to you. We also offer direct support by
phone,
fax
and e-mail; We are located in Switzerland, Europe. If you call before 9 AM
PDT,
you will reach us, and you will be able to talk to the right specialist.
Sending a fax is better as it can be processed during our day, e.g. your
night.
QUIX response has been sluggish in the past months. We have now hired
additional personnel to support Daydream customers better and to provide
quick
service.
--> From Dealers
Dealers are an additional source where you can get Daydream from. There
are
several dealers spread across the country who sell Daydreams, and provide
local
support. QUIX will not have distributors in the U.S.
--> Thru a User-Group
User Groups often provide Mac- <and> NeXT expertise. (Mac expertise is
important as Daydream turns your NeXT into a virtual Macintosh
workstation)
QUIX supports User-Groups, as well as their members, directly.
******** SEE US AT NEXTSTEP EXPO, June 21-23, BOOTH #224 ***
Come and see us at our booth! We'll show you some hot new features of
Daydream,
which have not been released before!
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----
DAYDREAM is an innovative software product that brings the
functionality
and ease-of-use of the Macintosh operating system to NeXT Computers. It
demonstrates QUIX's committment so supply bug-free Macintosh compatibility
on
additional platforms. For a long time, NeXT customers have demanded access
to high quality, low-cost productivity applications - Daydream now
satisfies this requirement.
In October, 1993, QUIX announced that it would provide Macintosh
compatibility for NeXT computers. In March 1994, QUIX entered a licence
agreement with Apple Computer, Inc. which enables QUIX to ship Daydream
with
original System Software and ROMs from Apple, thereby securing superior
compatibility.
Daydream customers work with the Macintosh graphical user interface
through
the Macintosh Desktop and Finder, and the features of Apples System 7.
This
includes Aliases, TrueType, publish-and-subscribe, AppleEvents, Balloon
Help,
QuickDraw, 32-bit addressing, File Sharing and MS-DOS support.
QUIX's approach with Daydream leverages both the underlying NeXT
workstation performance capabilities and superior application
compatibility.
This is accomplished through the adaption of hardware-dependent parts of
the
Apple System Software.
By using existing device drivers, the Daydream architecture also
supports
pheripheral devices, allowing access to Macintosh-formatted floppies,
CD-ROMs,
removables, optical disk drives, modems and the NeXT LASER PRINTER. Full
Ethernet networking capability is provided. Daydream is available now.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daydream runs Macintosh Applications on your NeXT* Computer.
SIMPLE
- Converts a NeXT* into a virtual Macintosh* workstation.
- Runs your Macintosh* software as fast as a high-end Mac
- Easy installation and setup
FLEXIBLE
- Opens a new world of software
- Exchanges data with other Macintosh* Computers
- Provides networking connectivity
COMAPTIBLE
- Runs System 7.1 out-of-the box
- Works with multiple Applications, System Extensions
and Control Panels at the same time
- Uses existing Macintosh* device drivers
- Supports CD-ROM's, Removables, Opticals and Scanners
- Supports Ethernet and the Serial Ports (Modems, Printers)
- Supports 1.4 MB Floppys, and the NeXT* Laser Printer
Daydream lets you run the Apple Macintosh* System 7* on your black NeXT*
computer. It opens a new world of applications, utilities and solutions -
the
world of the Macintosh* software. Use your existing NeXT* hardware to
discover
and take advantage of what Mac programmers have created for the
Macintosh*.
Take advantage of thousands of software products and hardware products.
And,
take advantage of your NeXT* as a high performance workstation.
The approach of daydream is radical: It converts your hardware into a
virtual
Macintosh* workstation, booting System 7.1* right out of the box. No need
of
patching system software, no need of patching applications, just use it as
your
new Mac*, and install your software as usual.
It's not only the software, we support the hardware, too: Attach external
hard
disk drives, removables, opticals, CD ROM's or scanners to your NeXT*
running
daydream. Use modems and printers. And: Daydream uses existing Macintosh
device
driver software to make existing pheriperals work. There is no need of re-
writing software: The world of the Macintosh offers enough.
Daydream is the definitive way to take the best of two worlds. Double
the potential of your existing hardware!
REQUIREMENTS
- black NeXT Computer (030/040 based), 8 MB RAM, 20 MB Hard Disk
recommended
- Apple Macintosh System 7.1 (to be purchased separately)
- NEXTSTEP* 3.x is highly recommended
INCLUDES
- Daydream Software, ROM Box with Apple ROM's installed
- Minimal System 7.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
MONEY BACK GUARANTEE
--------------------
QUIX offers a money back guarantee for Daydream. If you're not satisfied,
you
can send the Daydream package back, and your money will be refunded.
In case you want to send it back, please note that: The package must be
sent
by
FexEx, in a FedEx Pack, to QUIX within 30 days from arrival. <QUIX pays
the
shipment.> The Daydream product must come complete, with a copy of our
invoice.
QUIX then refunds your money and charges a restocking & shipping fee of
7%.
* corresponds to (R) or (TM)
NeXT and NEXTSTEP are trademarks of NeXT, Inc. Apple, the Apple Logo,
Macintosh, Mac, System 7 and Finder are trademarks of Apple Computer,
Inc. All other trademarks mentioned belong to their respective
holders. Mention of non-QUIX products is for informational purposes
and constitutes neither an endorsement nor a recommendation.
Specifications subject to change without notice.
_____________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________
daydream Q&A V1.5 (more compatibility information, see T20 below )
_____________________________________________________________________
T0
Q:Can you shortly describe what comes with daydream, and how it is
installed?
A:
Daydream consists of an external ROM-Box and a set of disks. You install
Daydream by dragging three files from floppy disks to your hard disk.
Then, you start daydream with the NEXTSTEP*-based Starter Application.
Your
hardware will reboot with daydream and System 7* as operating system. The
'Happy Mac' appears and soon you'll find yourself in the Finder*. Now it
looks
like a Mac*. The easiest way to test some applications is to attach a
Mac*-
formatted hard disk to your computer - no re-configuration or installation
needed. Also, run the software directly from another Mac* using the
network.
Of course, you can still install your software from floppy disks.
Not only INIT's and other drivers work in general, even foreign System
Software, like Korean or Arabic versions, work with daydream.
T20
Q: How compatible is daydream compared with a Macintosh*?
A: It's about as compatible as a Quadra 900* or 950*, what means
that daydream is very, very compatible. It's even compatible with a
lot of software that does not adhere to Apple's programming
specifications.
Many specialists doubt that Daydream really archieves this level of
compatibility, but: QUIX has been working on the Daydream technology for
several years now. Unlike some Macintosh <emulators>, Daydream has an
entirely
different approach, thereby reaching a previously unknown level of
compatibility for non-Apple computers.
To give you an idea about compatibility, here are
SOME of the applications we tested: (This is NOT A COMPLETE LIST)
Microsoft Word, Excel, Project, FoxBase+, Flight Simulator; Adobe
Illustrator,
Photoshop, Dimensions, Streamline; Wolfram Mathematica; Claris Resolve,
MacWrite, FileMaker, Mac Draw, MacProject, Claris CAD, ClarisWorks, Aldus
Pagemaker, Freehand, PersonalPress, Persuasion, SuperCard, Gallery
Effects,
IntelliDraw, Superpaint; Quark Xpress; WordPerfect, LetterPerfect; Apple
Finder, TeachText, HyperCard, AppleLink, ResEdit, InterPoll, AppleShare
File
Server 3.1, MPW; Symantec Think Pascal, Think C; Kaetron OrgChart; Now!
Up-To-
Date; Deneba Canvas; Cricket Paint, Fontographer, LaserTalk, MicroPhone
II,
MacTerminal, OmniPage Pro, SoftPC and SoftAT, Lotus 1-2-3, Now Utilities,
CP
Utilities, CP Antivirus.
SOME OF THE SYSTEM EXTENSIONS & DRIVERS WE TESTED:
Adobe Type Manager, Type Reunion; Suitcase; Dayna AccessPC, Apple
PCexchange,
LaserWriter, Laserwriter SC, Stylewriter II, MacX25, PortShare PRO,
Timbuktu,
DiskDoubler, Apple CD-ROM, Drivers for SyQuest drives, optical drives.
Drivers
for scanners. AppleShare networking on Ethernet with other Mac's and
NeXT's.
T22
Q: What technology is behind daydream?
A: QUIX has the technology to port the Apple System 7 to arbitrary
platforms.
QUIX engineers rewrote parts of the Apple Macintosh* Operating System in
order
to get it work on the NeXT* Hardware. The nature of the black hardware is
'of
a
different color' compared with Apple* Hardware, what means that nothing
fits
first. Almost all hardware-dependent parts of the Mac* Operating System
have
been rewritten for the NeXT* hardware.
T37
Q: Your Ad says daydream runs (almost) all Macintosh* Applications.
Is this merely a disclaimer or do you have a list of working programs?
A: It's a disclaimer. We don't have a list of working programs (would be
too
long, but see T20), and there are very few incompatibilities with this
version
of daydream. Here are the known problems after testing more than 3 GB of
software:
->> Apple's DiskCopy* does not work, because it goes directly to the
Apple* Disk Controller Chip. It recognizes that there's no such chip,
and puts up a dialog 'DiskCopy does not work on this type of Macintosh'.
->> Retrospect and DAT or Tape software in general. This is due to a
difference in the SCSI hardware of the NeXT* Computer.
The current Version still has a bug which displays false colors in Adobe
Photoshop* and Illustrator* on Computers with Color Monitors.
The bug which prevented NowMenus to display a menu is fixed. NowMenus is
searching for the Apple logo in the menu bar; now that the release version
of
Daydream displays the Apple Logo, NowMenu works.
T36
Q: When Mac System 7.2 comes out (or 8.0) can I upgrade the OS so I can
use
the
system to its full capacity? What about System 7 PRO?
A: We don't know what Apple* is going to do in future System releases, so
there
is no guarantee that it will work with the current version of daydream. On
the
other hand, daydream was developed with System 7.01*, and worked with only
one
bug with System 7.1*. (The bug disabled Ethernet access. It's fixed now.)
Concluding, daydream does not depend on ONE particular version of the
System
File, but we don't know what the future will bring. With System 7 PRO, for
example, we'll need to modify the Ethernet driver again. The rest works.
T1
Q: What Version of Macintosh* System Software can I use?
A: System 7.1 is needed for Daydream.
T3
Q: Can I use my existing hard disk drive?
A: Yes. No additional hardware is needed.
T4
Q: Do I need to re-partition my hard disk?
A: No. Daydream does not require re-partitioning or even formatting
your hard disk. The Macintosh hard disk is stored in a file on your
NeXT* disk.
T6
Q: Can I run NEXTSTEP* and Daydream concurrently?
A: You need to reboot your computer to change between Daydream and
NEXTSTEP.
T7
Q: Do I need to start NEXTSTEP* in order to start daydream?
A: You usually will, but you can take a shortcut and enter Daydream
directly, if you want.
T8
Q: How fast is Daydream?
A: Daydream offers the unrestriced potential of your hardware to your
software.
It runs as fast as a high-end Macintosh*, like a Quadra 900 or 950. The
older
030 cubes are a bit slower, but can still be used for DTP.
T10
Q: How long does it take to install daydream and getting started?
A: The installation process is simple, it takes about ten minutes.
You'll then be ready to go and run your Mac applicaions.
T11
Q: Can I read Apple* Macintosh* formatted Floppy Disks?
A: You can read, write and format Macintosh* 1.44 MB Diskettes, like
every Macintosh*. The older 800k format is unfortunately not supported by
the
NeXT* hardware.
T13
Q: Can I read PC-formatted Floppy Disks?
A: With third-party software, you can. PC Exchange* from Apple*, for
example, allows to exchange files with PC-compatibles.
T15
Q: Can I attach a Macintosh*-formatted Hard disk to my NeXT*?
A: Yes. This works fine.
T16
Q: Can I use my NeXT Laser Printer?
A: YES! Daydream comes with a printer driver for the NeXT Laser Printer.
You
can print from Macintosh Applications to your NeXT Laser, so you don't
need to
get an additional Mac-compatible printer.
T17
Q: Can I add INITs (System Extensions) and CDEVs (Control Panels) to
my System Folder?
A: Yes. We've seen daydream running more than 30 INIT's at the same
time - the same collection did not work on a Quadra 950*.
T18
Q: Can I connect a modem to my NeXT* running daydream?
A: Yes! You can attach serial printers, too! ( e.g. a Stylewriter II)
T25
Q: Can I attach a SyQuest removable or an optical drive?
A: Yes. You can attach Removables, Optials, Harddisks, CD-ROM's,
Scanners, SCSI-Printers and a lot of other SCSI-devices. It's almost
a standard Macintosh* SCSI Port, and due to the excellent NeXT*-
hardware, it's fast. One problem could show up with DAT Tape Backup
devices.
T26
Q: Do I need special drivers for such SCSI devices?
No. Daydream is like a Mac*. It uses existing Mac-device drivers.
T27
Q: I have a 2.88 MB SCSI Floppy drive attached. Can I use it?
A: Not at this time. QUIX will build a driver into daydream
which talks to this device, but we would also like to make sure that the
format
we create will be compatible with future Apple* 2.88 MB disks.
T28
Q: There is a file server built into Apple's System 7*. Does it work?
A: Yes, you can publish you disk drives with this built-in System 7*
Fileserver, and other users will be able to access your files after
entering a
password. NEXTSTEP* 3.0 useres with Appletalk* can access it, too.
T29
Q: Can I use existing network resources with daydream?
A: Yes, you have full access to your Network, with all the capabilities of
a
Macintosh*: For example, you have a built-in fileserver which lets other
NeXT*
computers and Macintosh* computers use your files. Or you can access other
file
servers. You can also access Postscript* Printers in the network, run
networking applications like databases, and much more. The Macintosh* is
well
known for its connectivity.
T31
Q: Can I run networked applications on daydream?
A: Yes, they think they're on a Macintosh* and you won't see any
difference.
Examples of networked Applications are databases, like Filemaker* from
Claris.
T34
Q: On what hardware and with what software did you write this Q&A?
A: On a 030 Cube, with Word. I'll later copy it into an AppleLink document
to
send it as an E-mail. We have installed AppleLink on a Turbo Station.
T44
Q: Is the NeXTDimension supported?
A: Not in this release. We're working on it; it's the next project, now
that
the Printer Driver and ADB are done. We expect to have it by the end of
April.
T45
Q: What are your development priorities?
A: 1) NeXTdimension support
2) Color Fix for Photoshop & Illustrator
3) LocalTalk network support (Ethernet is already supported)
Non-priorities: Sound input/output, MIDI
_____________________________________________________________________
* corresponds to (R) or (TM)
NeXT and NEXTSTEP are trademarks of NeXT, Inc. Apple, the Apple Logo,
Macintosh, Mac, Macintosh Quadra 900, Macintosh Quadra 950, Macintosh
LC, System 7, Personal Filesharing, AppleShare, Appletalk, EtherTalk,
AppleLink, PC Exchange and Apple Disk Copy are trademarks of Apple
Computer, Inc. Postscript, Illustrator and Photoshop are trademarks
of Adobe Systems, Inc. SoftPC is a trademark of Insignia Solutions,
Inc. Filemaker is a trademark of Claris Corporation. Microsoft Word
is a trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Executor is a trademark of
Abacus Research and Development. Xpress is a trademark of Quark, Inc.
4th Dimension is a trademark of Acius, Inc. Now Menus and Now
Utilities are trademarks of Now Software, Inc. Timbuktu is a
trademark of Farallon Computing, Inc. HP, LaserJet and DeskWriter are
trademarks of Hewlett-Packard Co.
All other trademarks mentioned belong to their respective holders.
Mention of non-QUIX products is for informational purposes and
constitutes neither an endorsement nor a recommendation.
Specifications subject to change without notice.
From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of SLIP vs. PPP for slab?
Date: 19 Jan 1995 02:14:08 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland
Message-ID: <3fkhtg$rqb@net.auckland.ac.nz>
References: <3fjtgn$nl1@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <3fk54k$r0r@news.iastate.edu>
tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) writes:
>David Finton writes
>> I've heard great things about TransSys PNI SLIP and Stephen Perkins'
>PPP.
>> Both are free. Which should I install on my slab?
>>
>> How do they compare with respect to speed, robustness, features?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David Finton
>>
>If you have a fine old black NeXTstation (as I do) and all you want it
>basic SLIP connectivity then I strongly suggest you not bother with
>TransSysPNI (which is wonderful, but more than you are after) or the PPP
>application (which I am not familiar with, but am guessing is also
>overkill) and instead load Louis' old TransSys Dialupip. It installs
>almost trivially and has all of the features you want. The only caveat
>being that you must have a *static* SLIP IP# to use it. I'd be more than
>happy to give you advice on the installation.
Not quite true. If you're referring to the package known as SLIP920904 or
thereabouts, dynamic IP allocation DOES work. I have it on my machine.
>Hope this helps --- Tom
>--
>Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
>Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543
>Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
>Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
Steve
sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
From: taweili@sal-sun8.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Chinese language text editing?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 12:05:52 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: taweil@sal-sun8.usc.edu
Message-ID: <TAWEILI.95Jan18120548@sal-sun8.usc.edu>
References: <1995Jan17.230508.1609@midway.uchicago.edu>
In-reply-to: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu's message of Tue, 17 Jan 1995 23:05:08 GMT
>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Suk-Young Chwe <chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu> writes:
In article <1995Jan17.230508.1609@midway.uchicago.edu> chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe) writes:
Michael> I emailed KaiSu@twnug.info.com but the mail bounced back.
For those who are using KaiSu Chinese font and PinYin.app, the mail address of KaiSu
has been changed to:
KaiSu@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw
--
Ta-Wei "David" Li
Computer Engineering and Computer Science
University of Southern California.
Member, League for Programming Freedom
"Innovate, don't litigate."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Subject: NS on Sparc - can do 1 bit ?
Message-ID: <D2IuEM.AKu@hazel.north.de>
Sender: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Organization: Great Mathematical Developments, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 23:25:34 GMT
I am looking for a portable computer which can run NextStep and has a
decent display, where decent is defined as having approximately 1 million
pixels.
What machines do fulfill these requirements ? Any suggestions ?
One machine I know of is the Sun Voyager. And the following question goes
to all beta testers of NS for Sparc:
Does NS for Sparc run on 1-bit displays? (The colour screen for the
Voyager is quite a bit more expensive.)
Does anybody have any experience with NS on a Voyager?
Any information would be very much appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Subject: NS on Sparc - can do 1 bit ?
Message-ID: <D2JtzK.BtJ@hazel.north.de>
Sender: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Organization: Great Mathematical Developments, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:14:07 GMT
I am looking for a portable computer which can run NextStep and has a
decent display, where decent is defined as having approximately 1 million
pixels ( or more ).
What machines do fulfill these requirements ? Any suggestions ?
One machine I know of is the Sun Voyager. And the following question goes
to all beta testers of NS for Sparc:
Does NS for Sparc run on 1-bit displays? (The colour screen for the
Voyager is quite a bit more expensive.)
Does anybody have any experience with NS on a Voyager?
Any information would be very much appreciated.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pros & Cons of SLIP vs. PPP for slab?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:25:59 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3fjtgn$nl1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I've heard great things about TransSys PNI SLIP and Stephen Perkins' PPP.
Both are free. Which should I install on my slab?
How do they compare with respect to speed, robustness, features?
Thanks,
David Finton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Message-ID: <D2MB9E.70H@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
References: <3f57bl$vki@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <3fejvs$c68@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 20:22:26 GMT
In article <3fejvs$c68@gap.cco.caltech.edu> kcb@coyote.caltech.edu (KC Border) writes:
>If you read the Release Notes for 3.3, they state that you must install the NextTeX.pkg
>manually in order to get LaTeX. (I don't know why.) Its on the CD in the NextCD folder.
>Unfortunmately it is LaTeX 2.09, not LaTeX2e.
>
LaTeX2e is available from ftp.shsu.edu and installs painlessly on 3.3. Just
follow the directions. It is too bad that NeXT didn't include LaTeX2e with
the 3.3 distribution. Its a {\HUGE improvement}.
Steve
--
#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
# Steven M. Boker # "Two's bifurcation #
# boker@virginia.edu # but three's chaotic" #
#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is Gateway 2000 PCI chipset bad?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:52:43 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <3fjv2r$of2@news.iastate.edu>
Does the PCI chipset on the Gateway 2000 P5-90 Best Buy new enough to
remove the "Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge" driver in NEXTSTEP for Intel
Processors 3.3?
The following intel PCI chips are found on the latest Gateway 2000 90MHz
Pentium motherboard:
Two of the following chip:
intel
PCIset
S82433NX
S Z899
L1B9350
NAM 9441 (SG)
AN79718P.1
WE62806
MALASIA
(M) (C) '93
One of each of the following chips:
intel
PCIset
S82434NX
S Z919
HG515C550HF
440 H01164
(C) Korea '94
intel
PCIset
S82378ZB
S Z905
37ILEN9437
AA4805.1
(C) '92 Taiwan
I have heard that you can find either A0 or A1 stepping indicators on
these chips, but none of these chips have either indicator on them.
I would like to remove the driver which disables PCI caching, but only if
it is safe to do so, since I have the Diamond Stealth 64 4MB VRAM, Cogent
EM960 and Adaptec 2940 PCI cards. According to what I have read, enabling
PCI caching could cause data errors on the ethernet via the Cogent card or
on the hard drive via the Adaptec if the PCI chipset has the bug.
If anyone knows whether these chips are or are not buggy, I (and probably
any other owner of the Gateway 2000 P5-90) would greatly appreciate your
response!
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Real 3.3 Mail shortcomings?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:38:46 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3fju8m$ru7@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <D2IHtp.4KF@nvc.cc.ca.us>
In article <D2IHtp.4KF@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
writes:
>In article <3f8oov$30k@transfer.stratus.com>,
>Howard Ship <hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com> wrote:
>>I'm surprised that Mail doesn't integrate with your address book, the
way
>>the FAX panel does. For many people, I have to maintain the two lists.
I
>>wish I could drag an address card to Mail and have it send mail to that
>>person.
>
>Mynah does support the address books.
>
>ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/demos/mail/Mynah-0.8ay.tar.gz
>
>--
>Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130
>Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063
>2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558
><fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
What I do is use the "MailTo" service (available at all standard ftp
archives). You simply hilite any e-mail address in any application and
choose Service->MailTo. Mail.app gets activated with a new Compose Window
and the E-mail address is pasted in the "To" field. Simple and effective!
I mostly use it from within the Mail.app when people give me e-mail
addresses of other people to contact. It beats, hiliting, copying,
clicking compose and then pasting. I just hilite and choose the menu item.
I only wish I knew of a way to add a Command-key equivalent, so that I
don't have to pull down menus.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: steve@ion.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Want to find SciPlot
Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:33:22 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fk1f2$s5i@larry.rice.edu>
References: <D2KAyu.5z@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
In article <D2KAyu.5z@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> olga@cajal.med.Virginia.EDU
(Olga V. Yousukhno) writes:
> We 've just lost one of hard drives with Sciplot on it. I am used to
> SciPlot and want to get it. Could anybody help with suggestions where to
Look at http://pgsa.rice.edu/
There is an archive of pointers to nextstep science software.
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From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: S: PD X-server for NSI
Date: 19 Jan 1995 15:00:29 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fluqd$jjp@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Keywords: X-windows, Public Domain, server
Hello,
Is there a public domain (or low cost) X-server for INTEL-based NeXTSTEP
(NSI)? I downloaded MouseX, but the README says that it won't run on NSI,
just black hardware. Period. (says the README).
Thanks for your pointers,
Helmut
--
Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________
FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562----------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University
Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group
From: r.lacelle@phoenix.ca (Richard Lacelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.3 and TransSys Slip 1.13
Date: 19 Jan 1995 00:33:04 GMT
Organization: Phoenix Systems Synectics, Inc
Message-ID: <3fkc00$6v@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Hi,
Could someone confirm that NeXTSTEP 3.3 and TransSys's Slip 1.13 (or
1.11) will work togethor? I heard some people saying it would and some
said it wouldn't. Id like to hear from someone first hand.
Thanks
--------------
Richard Lacelle
Phoenix Systems Synectics, Inc
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of SLIP vs. PPP for slab?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 22:36:04 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fk54k$r0r@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3fjtgn$nl1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
David Finton writes
> I've heard great things about TransSys PNI SLIP and Stephen Perkins'
PPP.
> Both are free. Which should I install on my slab?
>
> How do they compare with respect to speed, robustness, features?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Finton
>
If you have a fine old black NeXTstation (as I do) and all you want it
basic SLIP connectivity then I strongly suggest you not bother with
TransSysPNI (which is wonderful, but more than you are after) or the PPP
application (which I am not familiar with, but am guessing is also
overkill) and instead load Louis' old TransSys Dialupip. It installs
almost trivially and has all of the features you want. The only caveat
being that you must have a *static* SLIP IP# to use it. I'd be more than
happy to give you advice on the installation.
Hope this helps --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.next.software
From: hoessml@track.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Michael Hoess)
Subject: Re: WAISstation.app 1.9 on NeXT
Message-ID: <D2n6yy.Gso@news.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
Sender: hoessml@track (Michael Hoess)
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany
References: <D2KJtv.Hyo@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 07:47:21 GMT
[...]
|> having used a wais client on another platform, have little to go on.
|>
[...]
|> is installed in /LocalLibrary/WAIS, per the docs). How do I access external
|> wais sources?
|> Please reply directly.
Pleas post replies also to this group
Thnx.
M. Hoess
From: david@jaffe.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoundBlaster sound driver?
Date: 19 Jan 1995 01:57:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3fkgtq$n8m@agate.berkeley.edu>
Can anyone point me to a NS sound driver for the SoundBlaster? I need
sources. (But if the only available driver does not come with sources,
I'm interested in that too.) I'm exploring the feasibility of
simultaneous use of SoundBlaster MIDI and sound under NEXTSTEP.
Please respond to david@jaffe.com.
Thanks.
David A. Jaffe
Berkeley, CA
From: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word
Date: 18 Jan 1995 10:50:10 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <950118164706.3790AACUk.malc@white>
References: <D2I932.Buq@nntpa.cb.att.com>
>I have a need to run Microsoft Word 6.0, under black
>hardware. Is this something reasonable to do using the Mac
>version of Word and Executor(?spelling)? Is the Mac
>version file compatible with the Windows version? Any other
>thoughts? Please respond by email to d_k_kallman@att.com.
>
Try OpenWrite...
It has some very good import facilities, and will probably do what you want
but native under NEXTSTEP.
(Sorry, I can't remember offhand if WriteUp will import Word too...?)
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netinfo death. Ack.
Date: 19 Jan 1995 14:08:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3flrpi$k1a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello again all --
I woke up this morning and went through the routine of checking my mail,
which generally contains quite a few messages concerning logs and whatnot.
Lo and behold, I find a notice that I have exceeded my quota by some obscene
amount -- i.e. I was using 16 megs out of a 0 meg quota.
Well, the quota manager relies upon Netinfo to tell it the relevant fields
-- so I checked to see if Netinfo was alive -- "communication error" -- i.e.
-- it either died or something bad happened. When I checked ps, it was
running though, and I thoroughly checked my logs (Which are very detailed)
but found nothing indicating any errors or such.
So I rebooted and everything is fine, but I have to ask -- what might have
caused netinfo to choke like this? Would prolonged overnight network death
have caused it? Frankly, I'm puzzled, if not a little bit worried.
Thanks in advance! Please reply however you wish -- post here or reply to
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu, where NeXTMail is always welcome!
-- John
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | Any philosophy that can be
4th Year Computer Engineering | put in a nutshell belongs
Case Western Reserve Univ. | there.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Sydney J. Harris
______________________________|_____________________________
Happiness isn't something you experience; it's something you
remember.
-- Oscar Levant
____________________________________________________________
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I get MATLAB for NeXT?
Date: 19 Jan 1995 17:26:15 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fm7bn$gns@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3fjcuc$dcf@news.iastate.edu>
In article <3fjcuc$dcf@news.iastate.edu> sela@iastate.edu writes:
Six months ago it didn't exist. I called the folks at matlab and was told
they had no plans to port it to NextStep. All I could do, they told me,
was run a X server on my NeXT and port the graphics from another standard
UNIX platford which had MATLAB.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: kris@xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SpiderWoman: Where?
Date: 19 Jan 1995 13:35:56 -0700
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <3fmifc$3sr@xmission.xmission.com>
See subject.
Also, has it been upgraded significantly since its release?
.....................kris
--
Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: yannick@silicium.fdn.fr (Yannick Cadin)
Subject: PostScript and Fonts
Message-ID: <1995Jan19.231554.4943@silicium.fdn.fr>
Sender: yannick@silicium.fdn.fr (Yannick Cadin)
Organization: MICRO REPONSE - MONTIGNY, FRANCE.
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 23:15:54 GMT
PLEASE, NEXTSTEP SOFTWARE EDITOR COMPANIES... MAKE AN EFFORT!
I'm browsing the new 3.3 Third Party CD-ROM (especially with the
beautiful Spotlight application). I find PostScript files (for application
feature descriptions, or as order templates). And now again, too many of
them use "exotic" fonts.
Can you accept the idea we are a lot of users who don't have all the fonts
you include in your documents. (Even NeXT makes this kind of mistake :-)
So what, please, can you use "very standard" NEXTSTEP distribution fonts
like Times, Helvetica, Courier and Symbol?
And, if really, it's a too big effort, may be, you can have advantage of
the special feature in the Print Panel Save option: "include font and
printer information" in the PS file.
Thanks to take this into consideration.
Yannick Cadin
--
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3, rue Jacques Daguerre - 95370 MONTIGNY - FRANCE
Tel : 33 (1) 34.50.89.39 - Fax : 33 (1) 34.50.09.08
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I get MATLAB for NeXT?
Date: 19 Jan 1995 15:02:12 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3flutk$ns8@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
References: <3fjcuc$dcf@news.iastate.edu>
In article <3fjcuc$dcf@news.iastate.edu> sela@iastate.edu writes:
Alas, the MathWorks only cares about the Windows and Sun markets (and, after a
while, the Mac) so the native-NEXTSTEP version which was supposed to be in
their plans has been abandoned. Due to their Sun orientation, I suspect they
will eventually port -- but possibly not in my lifetime.
Two alternatives exist: RLaB (which is MATLAB-like) and Octave (which is a
clone). Both are "GNU-ware" (i.e., "free") and based upon the *PACK routines.
One plus is that the source code is available if you're inclined to fuss with
that sort of thing. There is also the email user group which may be subscribed
to via help-octave-request@che.utexas.edu.
Attached is the announcement for the latest version of Octave.
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
-------------------- Octave 1.1 Announcement ------------
To: help-octave@che.utexas.edu
Subject: ANNOUNCING: Octave Version 1.1.0
X-Zippy: World War III? No thanks!
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 15:05:14 -0600
From: John Eaton <jwe@che.utexas.edu>
Sender: help-octave-request@che.utexas.edu
Octave version 1.1.0 is now available for ftp from ftp.che.utexas.edu
in the directory /pub/octave. Gzipped tar files are available. There
is no patch file to go from version 1.0 to 1.1.0 because there are so
many differences.
A list of user-visible changes since the last release is available in
the file NEWS. The file ChangeLog in the source distribution contains
a more detailed record of changes made since the last release.
Binaries for several popular systems are also available. If you would
like help out by making binaries available for other systems, please
contact bug-octave@che.utexas.edu.
What is Octave?
---------------
Octave is a high-level interactive language, primarily intended for
numerical computations that is mostly compatible with Matlab.
Octave can do arithmetic for real and complex scalars and matrices,
solve sets of nonlinear algebraic equations, integrate functions over
finite and infinite intervals, and integrate systems of ordinary
differential and differential-algebraic equations.
Octave uses the GNU readline library to handle reading and editing
input. By default, the line editing commands are similar to the
cursor movement commands used by GNU Emacs, and a vi-style line
editing interface is also available. At the end of each session, the
command history is saved, so that commands entered during previous
sessions are not lost.
The Octave distribution includes a 200+ page Texinfo manual. Access
to the complete text of the manual is available via the help command
at the Octave prompt.
Two and three dimensional plotting is fully supported using gnuplot.
The underlying numerical solvers are currently standard Fortran ones
like Lapack, Linpack, Odepack, the Blas, etc., packaged in a library
of C++ classes. If possible, the Fortran subroutines are compiled
with the system's Fortran compiler, and called directly from the C++
functions. If that's not possible, you can still compile Octave if
you have the free Fortran to C translator f2c.
Octave is also free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
Free Software Foundation.
Instructions for obtaining Octave are given below.
Where to get Octave
-------------------
If you are on the Internet, you can copy the latest distribution
version of Octave from the file /pub/octave/octave-M.N.tar.gz, on the
host ftp.che.utexas.edu. This tar file has been compressed with GNU
gzip, so be sure to use binary mode for the transfer. M and N stand
for version numbers; look at a listing of the directory through ftp to
see what version is available. After you unpack the distribution, be
sure to look at the files README and INSTALL.
Installation
------------
Octave requires approximately 50MB of disk storage to unpack and
install (significantly less if you don't compile with debugging
symbols). In order to build Octave, you will need a current version
of g++, libg++, and GNU make. If you don't have these tools, you can
get them from many anonymous ftp archives, including ftp.che.utexas.edu,
ftp.uu.net, prep.ai.mit.edu, and wuarchive.wustl.edu, or by writing to
the FSF at 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.
Octave has been compiled and tested with g++ and libg++ on a
SPARCstation 2 running SunOS 4.1.2, an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.5,
DEC Alpha systems running OSF/1 1.3 and 3.0, a DECstation 5000/240
running Ultrix 4.2a, and i486 systems running Linux. It should work
on most other Unix systems that have a working port of g++ and libg++.
Implementation
--------------
Octave is being developed with GNU make, bison (a replacement for
YACC), flex (a replacement for lex), gcc/g++, and libg++ on Sun
SPARCstations, DEC DECstations, and IBM RS/6000s. It should be
easy to port it to any machine that has a working port of gcc/g++.
The underlying numerical solvers are currently standard Fortran ones
like Lapack, Linpack, Odepack, the Blas, etc., packaged in a library
of C++ classes (see the files in the libcruft and liboctave
subdirectories). If possible, the Fortran subroutines are compiled
with the system's Fortran compiler, and called directly from the C++
functions. If that's not possible, they are translated with f2c and
compiled with a C compiler. Better performance is usually achieved if
the intermediate translation to C is avoided.
The library of C++ classes may also be useful by itself, and they are
distributed under the same terms as Octave.
Bugs
----
Please report any problems you have to
bug-octave@che.utexas.edu
Your bug reports play an essential role in making Octave reliable.
Reporting a bug may help you by bringing a solution to your problem,
or it may not. In any case, the principal function of a bug report
is to help the entire community by making the next version of Octave
work better. Bug reports are your contribution to the maintenance of
Octave.
The file BUGS in the top level directory of the source distribution
contains more information about how to provide useful bug reports.
Comments and suggestions are also always welcome.
--
John W. Eaton
jwe@che.utexas.edu
Department of Chemical Engineering
The University of Texas at Austin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: dsonday@labrador (Darrel Sonday)
Subject: Token Ring card with SoftPC 4.0
Message-ID: <D2MC15.Dxz@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com>
Sender: news@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews)
Organization: US WEST Information Technologies
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 20:39:04 GMT
I'm posting this for a co-worker. Please resond to address below.
All,
We have 6 DECpc 560 XL Computers running NeXTStep 3.2. We are the in the
minority since the rest of the 250 people at this office are running PC's
on a Novell LAN. We need to configure our NeXT machines so they can get
to the information on the Novell LAN, but because of the way the network
is configured here, the Netware piece of NeXTStep can't find a server to
bind to.
To cut to the chase, I have now resorted to installing a Token ring card
into my NeXT machine in addition to the ethernet card. It is a IBM 16/4
ISA-16 Adapter. I got the driver for it from NeXT Answers, and got
NeXTStep to recognize it, but I am having problems getting SoftPC 4.0 to
see or use the card. Has anyone out there got SoftPC 4.0 to work with a
Token ring card? If so, please, please, let me know how you got it to
work. Insignia says that some of their customers have gotten it to work,
but could not tell me who they are. If anyone has any info or leads on
this, please let me know.
Thanks,
Rick Stringham
rick@riker.mis.uswest.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gsl@netcom.com (Greg Lindholm)
Subject: Checkbook program?
Message-ID: <gslD2oJ52.F0A@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 01:07:50 GMT
Hi,
I'm looking for a low cost personal finance, checkbook type program.
Features needed:
- maintain a checkbook
- print checks
- monthly budget
- monthly summaries (Utilities, auto, entertainment etc.)
- handles repetitive bills (phone, gas, auto. etc.)
Does anyone have any suggestions ?
Please e-mail me with replies, thanks.
--
Greg Lindholm
BlueSky Software
gsl@netcom.com (NeXTMail & MIME happily accepted!)
PGP 2.6 key available via finger.
Fax: (818) 541-1984
From: jao@itd.dsto.gov.au (John O'Neill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC v4.0 and Lotus Notes v3.1 under NextStep v3.3
Date: 19 Jan 1995 23:31:11 GMT
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation
Message-ID: <3fmsnv$7cs@fang.dsto.gov.au>
Hi,
I'm trying to install Lotus Notes V3.1 on an Intel 486 running NextStep V3.3 and SoftPC v4.0.
I get the following error message when I get to the Notes Workstation Setup:
"Netware IPX is not installed or could not be initialised"
However, I've been using the Netware services under SoftPC v4.0 quite successfully for file
transfers and printing.
I've been told to put the following files in the Windows/System directory:
NWCALLS.DLL VNETWARE.386 VIPX.386 NWIPXSPX.DLL NWNETAPI.DLL NETWARE.DRV
Despite these changes, I keep getting the same error message.
Any ideas ???
John O'Neill
DSTO C3 Research Centre, Australia
email: jao@itd.dsto.gov.au
From: tokumaru@spock.usc.edu (Phillip Tokumaru)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Anyone compile GCC 2.6.x for NS/HPPA?
Date: 19 Jan 1995 08:21:05 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: tokumaru@spock.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fm3hh$cb6@spock.usc.edu>
Has anyone gotten GCC 2.6.3 up and running under NEXTSTEP for HPPA?
Phillip Tokumaru
ptok@cave.usc.edu
From: Fabrizio Zeno Cornelli <cornelli@ghost.dsi.unimi.it>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Searching for: HTML editor.
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:15:21 +0100
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950119161329.111A-100000@hp1.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Rply-to: cornelli@ghost.dsi.unimi.it
I'm searching for an editor for HTML for Next.
Anyone know if it exists and where is available?
Please: reply to my e-mail address!
Thanks!
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| Zeno | pgp public key by finger |
| Fabrizio Cornelli | cornelli@dsi.unimi.it|
| WWW: |
| http://www.dsi.unimi.it/Users/Students/cornelli/home.html|
From: rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: 19 Jan 1995 23:29:37 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fmsl1$du2@hecate.umd.edu>
References: <3ffvdl$sdt@columba.udac.uu.se>
In article <3ffvdl$sdt@columba.udac.uu.se> peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se (Peter
Trygg) writes:
[...]
>
> Nop!, You only need tex (and the LaTeX2e sources) to build LaTeX2e.
> It works fine under NS 3.2.
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Peter Trygg peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se
> Department of Theoretical Physics
> Uppsala University
> -------------------------------------------------------------
I've recently installed latex2e on my black hardware running NS 3.2.
It runs fine with one exception: the epsf macros no longer work. When
I include them by, for example,
..
\documentclass[12pt]{article}
\usepackage{epsf}
..
and use it in the text later as follows,
\epsffile{drawing.eps}
I get this error message
Unable to read an entire line---bufsize=3000
Please ask a wizard to enlarge me.
How do I fix it? The file "drawing.eps" is about 120 kbytes.
Rod Price
rprice@reunion.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: spxscr@thor.cf.ac.uk (simon roberts)
Subject: idraw for NeXT 2.1?
Message-ID: <22735.9501200920@thor.cf.ac.uk>
Sender: spxscr@thor.cf.ac.uk (simon roberts)
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:20:36 GMT
I'd like to know if there are any versions of idraw for the NeXT 2.1
available by ftp. If not, what other super freeware drawing packages
are available?
Please respond using my private email address. Thanks in advance.
Simon spxscr@thor.cf.ac.uk
From: marcelor@acs.bu.edu (Marcelo Rodrigues)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I get MATLAB for NeXT?
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:36:40
Organization: Boston University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <marcelor.60.00009C81@acs.bu.edu>
References: <3fjcuc$dcf@news.iastate.edu>
Keywords: MATLAB
In article <3fjcuc$dcf@news.iastate.edu> sela@iastate.edu writes:
>Subject says it all.
>--
>*******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
>* Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) *
>* --------------------------------------------------------- *
>* He who throws mud loses ground. *
>****************************************************************
You can't !
There up people *begging* for OS/2 and Linux versions everyday
on comp.soft-sys.matlab with a cold stare from the MathWorks. They
actually have a version for Linux but are on record that it won't be
released. The chances for a NeXT versions are even more slight I
would say. Now, if you have X on your NeXT you might try SciLab
which is a PD package very close to MATLAB.
M.R.
From: marcelor@acs.bu.edu (Marcelo Rodrigues)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:41:59
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <marcelor.61.0000B32A@acs.bu.edu>
Just curious - I'm brazilian , and the word always catches my attention ...
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tcsh don't source cshrc.std anymore?
Date: 20 Jan 1995 14:04:38 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3foftm$t7o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3fgjr2$ve5@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
I wrote ....
[blablabla] about tcsh not sourcing /etc/csh.std anymore
Ooops, fixed it myself after reading the FM. B-(
Contrary to what it says, tcsh looks for csh.cshrc, even on a NeXT. A
symbolic link did the job.
Sorry!
-Rainer.
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From: gery@ares.fdn.org(gery)
Subject: Re: WANTED: AutoCAD for NeXT
Message-ID: <1995Jan19.155257.4921@ares.domain.name>
Sender: news@ares.domain.name
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
References: <HORNOF.95Jan9190420@oregon.irisa.fr>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:52:57 GMT
In article <HORNOF.95Jan9190420@oregon.irisa.fr> hornof@oregon.irisa.fr
(Luke Hornof) writes:
>
> I'm looking for AutoCAD (or something equivalent) for the NeXT. Does
someone
> know if this exists, where I can get it, how much it costs, if I can
demo it
> before buying, etc. Or even if there is some cheap public domain
program
> around?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Luke
two good software can be close your needs.
ACADEMY (good 2 CAD Software from germany available in english )
and
JESSYCAD ( very good french 2D CAD software but not yet tranlated in
English as far I know)
The both can load and export DXF Files ( the last version of ACADEMY I got
still have problems with some few DXF Files ).
in 3D:
ZZVolume is available on beta 4 Fat binary and shipping on 2 Fat binary
but is architecture oriented.
Sincerely
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Adding Fonts to NS
In-Reply-To: mike_zemina@wiltel.com's message of 18 Jan 1995 22:16:19 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.95Jan19103902@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <3f6v27$kb1@potogold.rmii.com> <3fk3vj$s1e@gateway.wiltel.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 18:39:02 GMT
Mike Zemina writes:
Mike> Garrett, I've done what you've said and have NOT gotten NeXT to print
Mike> the fonts correctly. Even thought I can print to preview (it shows
Mike> correctly in Preview) and then printing the preview ALSO won't print
Mike> correctly. Those fonts get mapped to courier.
Hmm. Welcome to the wonderful world of network printing.
If the NeXT is printing to a local printer attached to the serial port, then
maybe the correct PPD isn't selected - the NeXT printing package knows how
to download fonts correctly.
If the NeXT is printing to a network printer through a spooler machine, it's
usually the spooler machine's responsibility to insert the fonts into the
print stream (by using the DSC %%DocumentFonts convention.) If Transcript
is installed on the spooler machine, adding those fonts to the spooler's
knowledge base is pretty easy. Unfortunately, the SysV mechanism for adding
fonts to the spooler's knowledge base is crap (ever heard of psres and
PSRESOURCEPATH guys?).
The workaround for both problems is to print to a file, and select "Include
fonts for selected printer" in the save panel. Then you can print that
file.
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
From: Jason Glithero <jglithe@imap2.asu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: HP3000 Emulation for NextStep
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:16:37 -0700
Organization: Arizona State University
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950118211057.23412A-100000@general1>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hello,
I am looking for software for my wifes company that emulates an
HP3000 on NextStep 3.1 . Currently reflections is run on windows and
they would like to run an emulation though NextStep.
E-mail responses would be appreciate.
Thank You in advance.....
The world is upon us, geeez get it off.
OOOO OOOO Jason Glithero Arizona State University
O O O O Dept. of Mechanical Engineering
OOOO OOOO jglithe@imap2.asu.edu
O
OOO
( )
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From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of SLIP vs. PPP for slab?
Date: 20 Jan 1995 08:46:03 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3foeqr$i9@panix.com>
References: <3fjtgn$nl1@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <3fn5lb$2a5@beatty.slip.netcom.com>
beatty@netcom.com writes:
> If PPP is an option, Stephen Perkins' PPP is even easier to use than
> either SLIP implementation. PPP will negotiate all sorts of things with
> the other end of the connection, and SLIP can't do that. What that means
> is that PPP is more likely to work the first time you try it, and a lot
> easier to debug. Moreover, the free PPP will do header compression, which
> gives better interactive performance.
In addition to this, Stephen Perkins himself is inordinately helpful,
and way more helpful and responsive than most PD/shareware/commercial
software purveyors (including me).
I asked for some help about a month or two ago, then was diverted for
a while (bought a puppy...). Lo and behold, Stephen followed up a
few weeks later to see if I had solved the problems, etc.
Just my $0.02.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
PS - due to his support, my PPP connection is now up and running
perfectly. Thanks very much, Stephen.
From: taustad@oslonett.no (Thomas Austad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 and TransSys Slip 1.13
Date: 19 Jan 1995 23:35:10 +0100
Organization: Oslonett public access
Message-ID: <3fmpeu$efb@hasle.oslonett.no>
References: <3fkc00$6v@nic.ott.hookup.net>
In article <3fkc00$6v@nic.ott.hookup.net>,
Richard Lacelle <r.lacelle@phoenix.ca> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Could someone confirm that NeXTSTEP 3.3 and TransSys's Slip 1.13 (or
>1.11) will work togethor? I heard some people saying it would and some
>said it wouldn't. Id like to hear from someone first hand.
I know TransSys PNI 1.11 works with NS 3.3 on Intel.
Th.A.
From: me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NFS problem when mounting to Solaris2.4
Date: 20 Jan 1995 18:40:18 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3fp02i$8t7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
dear readers of comp.sys.next.software,
I am reporting here on a problem between NeXT black hardware ( NeXTstep
3.0 or 3.2 ) and Solaris2.4 on SPARC10 or SPARC20. I wonder wether anybody
has run into this also and has a better understanding than me.
The problem is that commands like 'ls' or 'pwd' do not work properly on
the SPARC when issued in a directory which is an NFS mount of files from a
NeXT machine. I can access those files by commands like 'cat' and also do
a 'cd' but when issuing 'ls' or 'pwd' there is no response. After one
minuit or so the message 'NFS Server not responding, still trying' appears
on the SPARC. This may repeat itself another few times and if I am patient
enough it may end in 'NFS Server ok' without really giving any output or
sometimes even gives some output.
At first glance this may look like a network problem i.e. bad cable.
However I am excluding this on the basis that there is no such problem on
my network with
1) files mounted from a another Sun machine ( in my case a System with
Solaris 1.1) and
2) on SPARCS using Solaris2.3
I have heared that Solaris2.4 is supposed to bring a big perfomance boost
in networking. Could it be that the system has been tuned so high that
some systems do not respond quick enough?
Of course I have talked to the hotlines of Sun and some people at Sun are
looking into this. But the progress is very slow, if not zero. So am very
interested to hear wether anybody else has experienced the same thing.
Thanks in advance. Werner Wetzel
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Werner Wetzel Fax: +49 6221 569 329
Theoretische Physik Tel: +49 6221 569 419
Universitaet Heidelberg email:
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: NeXT: support PDF (was Re: PostScript and Fonts)
Message-ID: <1995Jan20.182902.4471@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <1995Jan19.231554.4943@silicium.fdn.fr>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 18:29:02 GMT
Or NeXT could just "do the right thing" and support Adobe Acrobat's
format, PDF (Portable Document Format) natively, which would then
fix silly problems like this forever. Acrobat 2.0 is so cool, and I'm
now using PDF as my preferred electronic distribution format, in large
part because Adobe gives away a free reader on the Mac and PC for it.
Since Adobe clearly doesn't give two hoots about the NeXT market, and
only give about .2 hoots for the UNIX market in general, it would be
nice to see NeXT take care of this themselves for 4.0.
I just took a short document I wrote the other day that had a lot of images
in it, and used some "exotic" typefaces (Stone Sans from Adobe). On
the NeXT I saved it out as PS with fonts, and brought it over to a Mac
to "distill" it into PDF using Adobe's Distiller. It went from a 14MB
PS file to a 300K document, and I could open it on a Mac IIci that
had no "exotic" fonts installed and, while it wasn't exactly the same,
it was close enough (spacing preserved, etc.).
PDF, with its various forms of compression and multi-master font
technology and hyperlinks, is clearly a maturing technology that NeXT
is in a unique postion to leverage off of. It's a shame to see that
in the scramble stay alive, they're not continuing to push the
envelope in on-line document formats. I also think it sucks that Adobe
hasn't put out a UNIX command line PDF expander so that those of
use who prefer not to have to turn to a Mac or Windows PC can take
the increasingly ubiquitous PDF files (i.e. last two years on-line doc
from SIGGRAPH was PDF, etc) and turn them into printable postscript.
I can't believe that this would be hard for them, and in one fell
swoop would quiet most of the complaint about PDF in the UNIX
community, since you could easily pipe that PS to Display PostScript
or ghostscript.
- wave
In article <1995Jan19.231554.4943@silicium.fdn.fr> yannick@silicium.fdn.fr (Yannick Cadin) writes:
>>PLEASE, NEXTSTEP SOFTWARE EDITOR COMPANIES... MAKE AN EFFORT!
>>
>>I'm browsing the new 3.3 Third Party CD-ROM (especially with the
>>beautiful Spotlight application). I find PostScript files (for application
>>feature descriptions, or as order templates). And now again, too many of
>>them use "exotic" fonts.
>>
>>Can you accept the idea we are a lot of users who don't have all the fonts
>>you include in your documents. (Even NeXT makes this kind of mistake :-)
>>
>>So what, please, can you use "very standard" NEXTSTEP distribution fonts
>>like Times, Helvetica, Courier and Symbol?
>>And, if really, it's a too big effort, may be, you can have advantage of
>>the special feature in the Print Panel Save option: "include font and
>>printer information" in the PS file.
>>
>>Thanks to take this into consideration.
>>
>>Yannick Cadin
>>--
>> MICRO REPONSE
>> 3, rue Jacques Daguerre - 95370 MONTIGNY - FRANCE
>> Tel : 33 (1) 34.50.89.39 - Fax : 33 (1) 34.50.09.08
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: jchaffee@reis2.alleg.edu (Jim Chaffee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Reading & Writing Pagemaker
Date: 20 Jan 1995 18:53:22 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <3fp0r2$n87@mustang.alleg.edu>
Hi, I am interested to know if any one might have information about any
NEXTSTEP applications that read and/or write to a Pagemaker format.
Thanks
Jim :-)
--
Jim Chaffee, Educational Support Specialist
Educational Computing Services
Allegheny College, Meadville, PA 16335
(814)332-2755
E-Mail: jchaffee@alleg.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: 20 Jan 1995 19:12:47 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fp1vf$rho@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3fmsl1$du2@hecate.umd.edu>
Rodney Price writes
> I've recently installed latex2e on my black hardware running NS 3.2.
> It runs fine with one exception: the epsf macros no longer work. When
> I include them by, for example,
>
> ...
> \documentclass[12pt]{article}
> \usepackage{epsf}
> ...
>
> and use it in the text later as follows,
>
> \epsffile{drawing.eps}
>
> I get this error message
>
> Unable to read an entire line---bufsize=3000
> Please ask a wizard to enlarge me.
>
>
> How do I fix it? The file "drawing.eps" is about 120 kbytes.
>
> Rod Price
> rprice@reunion.umd.edu
Just as a guess.... did the graphic come from a Mac? Because of the
different end-of-line characters, if you just port that Mac .eps file to
the NeXT it will be read in as one long line and you get the message above
(in fact, you should get the message above whether you are using 2e or
just good old default LaTeX). Write yourself a little shell script using
tr, or get one of the Mac to NeXT filters from Sonata/ORST (the text one
is sufficient) and run the .eps file through it before TeXing.
IF this does not solve the problem NeXTmail me the specific graphic and I
will see what I can do.
Hope this helps --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
Subject: GIS-Help (ARC/Info)
Message-ID: <D2p5p5.128@softpac.com.au>
Keywords: GIS ARC
Sender: dave@softpac.com.au (Dave THOMAS)
Organization: Softpac Pty. Ltd., Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 09:15:04 GMT
One of our clients is looking to tie in to ARC/INFO. Can anyone help with
any information about interfacing with ESRI Arc/Info.
Your assistance would be appreciated!
Rgds dave t
From: rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: 20 Jan 1995 19:23:20 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fp2j8$s5n@hecate.umd.edu>
References: <3fmsl1$du2@hecate.umd.edu>
michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) wrote me by email:
>In article <3fmsl1$du2@hecate.umd.edu> rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price)
>writes:
>
>: I get this error message
>
>: Unable to read an entire line---bufsize=3000
>: Please ask a wizard to enlarge me.
>
>
>This tells you that your TeX got a text line longer that 3000 characters.
>Rather unlikely in normal circumstances. Are you using text files
>(Postscript input is a text, in priciple) from some other OS, like
>Mac, without translation? This would do it. It has nothing to
That's _exactly_ what happened. Thank you very much!
Rod Price
rprice@reunion.umd.edu
From: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite --- tell me more about it!
Date: 20 Jan 1995 15:09:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <950120210853.7612AACUT.malc@white>
References: <3fj8kq$r7o$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
> Now... I hear about OpenWrite. I'd like to get some opinions on this.
>
[...]
> Any suggestions, feedback, advice, etc., would be welcome and
> appreciated!
>
The best way, as ever, is to play before you pay...(*)
You can ftp a fully-funtional demo copy from
ftp://sics.se/pub/next/xanthus
grab as a minimum
ftp://sics.se/pub/next/xanthus/OpenWrite_1.0.tar.gz
you should probably also get
ftp://sics.se/pub/next/xanthus/OpenWrite_Converters_1.0.tar.gz
and
ftp://sics.se/pub/next/xanthus/OpenWrite_Extras_1.0.tar.gz
All this comes to a lot of MB, but well worth it to see the full power of
the application.
Have fun,
mmalc.
(*) (C) mmalc 1995 ;-)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PostScript and Fonts
Date: 20 Jan 1995 20:31:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fp6iu$2h3@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1995Jan19.231554.4943@silicium.fdn.fr>
In article <1995Jan19.231554.4943@silicium.fdn.fr> yannick@silicium.fdn.fr (Yannick Cadin) writes:
>PLEASE, NEXTSTEP SOFTWARE EDITOR COMPANIES... MAKE AN EFFORT!
>
>I'm browsing the new 3.3 Third Party CD-ROM (especially with the
>beautiful Spotlight application). I find PostScript files (for application
>feature descriptions, or as order templates). And now again, too many of
>them use "exotic" fonts.
This problem won't go away until NeXT licenses Multiple Master font
technology for DPS from Adobe and/or build in support for PDF (Acrobat)
files in the User version of NEXTSTEP.
All NS machines should have at least a PDF reader, like one is available
free for other platforms.
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: anjrober@journalism.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT CASE
Date: 20 Jan 1995 00:43:08 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Message-ID: <3fn0us$qni@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Does anyone know of any shareware or such NeXT CASE tools. Please email
me any response. Thanks :-)
--Andrew Robertson--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IU Dept. of Environmental Health & Safety 855-5252
School of Journalism NeXT mail accepted
"Explore and Play"...Blues Traveler and encouraged
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word
Organization: Madge Networks
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:14:04 GMT
Message-ID: <D2novH.Iwr@madge1.demon.co.uk>
References: <D2I932.Buq@nntpa.cb.att.com> <1995Jan17.091237.2494@proximus.north.de>
Gerhard Moeller (gemoe@proximus.north.de) wrote:
: I only know the the need of resources for Winword
: 6.x is abnormally (you need at least a 486pc with 8MB RAM, for a dos
: machine that can only use 640KB directly, ridiculous...).
When running a Windows application like Word, the memory above 640KB is
accessed directly.
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS3.3 BuildDisk bug--I think its small, No?
Date: 20 Jan 1995 17:14:47 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fpckn$h51@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Hi, All
I really need to use builddisk (its the only app that will let me
build onto a 1024b/s HD on an intel machine) and have run up against its bug.
Now, I ran the app anyway, and all seems to be fine except its missing
a link in the /private. Mainly a Devices link to ..Drivers/i386.
So, I naturally just copied the proper link from the another drive and
after rebooting everything SEEMS to work fine.
However, I'm fearful that other and perhaps both more dangerous and
sublime errors might exist with the resultant NS Drive made by BuildDisk 3.3?
So the question is: Is the only problem with NS BuildDisk 3.3 the
missing link in the /private directory? And if it is more serious than that,
Does NeXT have plans to release a fixed version? And if so, When?
Thanks very much, Later, John
From: rjrjr@lighthouse.com (Ray Ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of SLIP vs. PPP for slab?
Date: 19 Jan 1995 21:07:19 GMT
Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
Message-ID: <3fmka7$rpc@lighthouse.lighthouse.com>
References: <3fjtgn$nl1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
In article <3fjtgn$nl1@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David
Finton) writes:
> I've heard great things about TransSys PNI SLIP and Stephen Perkins' PPP.
> Both are free. Which should I install on my slab?
>
> How do they compare with respect to speed, robustness, features?
I've been using TransSys PNI on an Intel running 3.2 for a while, and I have
a consistent problem with it: after I end a SLIP session, I stand a good
chance of having frozen serial ports or worse, and am very unlikely to be
able to bring my system down cleanly. This is true using either NeXT's
serial driver or MUX.
I think I've heard of other people having this problem. Anybody?
rjrjr
--
Ray Ryan, Lighthouse Design, Ltd. +1-415-570-7736
rjrjr@lighthouse.com http://www.lighthouse.com/~rjrjr/
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: HP3000 Emulation for NextStep
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Date: 20 Jan 1995 04:27:33 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3fne3l$d92@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950118211057.23412A-100000@general1>
Jason Glithero (jglithe@imap2.asu.edu) wrote:
: Hello,
: I am looking for software for my wifes company that emulates an
: HP3000 on NextStep 3.1 . Currently reflections is run on windows and
: they would like to run an emulation though NextStep.
If there were enough seats involved, I am sure YRRID would write an emulator...
try niall@yrrid.com.
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tyson@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Tyson Macaulay)
Subject: Perl for NeXT?
Message-ID: <tyson.7.00AB2758@debra.dgbt.doc.ca>
Sender: news@clark.dgim.doc.ca (#Usenet News)
Organization: Industry Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 95 21:42:25 GMT
Is there anywhere to get a pre-compiled version of Perl for NexT black? Or
even the source?
Thanks,
Tyson
Tyson Macaulay - Internet Applications Consultant ^
CDD/DGCP _./ \._
Industry Canada, 7th Floor, Journal Tower North \ /
300 Slater Street, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. K1A 0C8 /._ _.\
Email: macaulay.tyson@istc.ca Voice: 613 9904236 |
From: cpayne@itsnet.com (Carl Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Port of NS for Alpha?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 18:39:31 -0000
Organization: Internet Technology Systems
Message-ID: <3ervt3$6vh@destiny.itsnet.com>
This has probably already come and gone, but I just heard a rumor today
that there *may* be consideration of porting NS to the DEC Alpha. Can
anybody comment on whether this is a reality or not?
In case anyone from Digital is listening, I'd drop my socks to buy
an Alpha if NS were available for it...
Intel Schmintel
Carl Payne
Internet Operations Director, ITS
cpayne@itsnet.com <--NeXTmail OK
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX an NS 3.3 for black
Date: 20 Jan 1995 17:42:54 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fosmu$j3d@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3ffvdl$sdt@columba.udac.uu.se> <3fmsl1$du2@hecate.umd.edu>
Rodney Price (rprice@reunion.umd.edu) wrote:
: I get this error message
: Unable to read an entire line---bufsize=3000
: Please ask a wizard to enlarge me.
This tells you that your TeX got a text line longer that 3000 characters.
Rather unlikely in normal circumstances. Are you using text files
(Postscript input is a text, in priciple) from some other OS, like
Mac, without translation? This would do it. It has nothing to
do with LaTeX2e, unless you are using incompatible style files from
an old version is something got REALLY confused.
Michal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty)
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of SLIP vs. PPP for slab?
Message-ID: <3fn5lb$2a5@beatty.slip.netcom.com>
Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration)
Organization: none
References: <3fjtgn$nl1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 02:03:23 GMT
In article <3fjtgn$nl1@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David
Finton) writes:
> I've heard great things about TransSys PNI SLIP and Stephen
> Perkins' PPP. Both are free. Which should I install on my slab?
>
> How do they compare with respect to speed, robustness, features?
>
There are two TransSys ports of SLIP to black hardware. DialupIP is the
original, and PNI is newer.
For free software on black hardware, the original TransSys DialupIP port
is like Algol 68: an improvement over its successor. DialupIP will do
dial-on-demand, but the free version of PNI will not. I used PNI for
several months, but eventually I switched back to DialupIP. PNI is
slightly easier to install than DialupIP.
If PPP is an option, Stephen Perkins' PPP is even easier to use than
either SLIP implementation. PPP will negotiate all sorts of things with
the other end of the connection, and SLIP can't do that. What that means
is that PPP is more likely to work the first time you try it, and a lot
easier to debug. Moreover, the free PPP will do header compression, which
gives better interactive performance.
I'm currently running TransSys DialupIP SLIP 920904-A when I connect to
Netcom, and PPP 2.2 when I dial in to work. (Yes, I have both loaded into
my kernel [3.2].) (I don't use header compression: not with SLIP because
of the cost, and not with PPP because it doesn't work with compression
when talking to our Xyplex 9000 TS/720 running software version 5.3.)
Also, the DialupIP scripting language is extremely flexible (it's TCL, and
PNI also uses it), but the price for that flexibility is the time it takes
to learn it. The PPP scripting language is rather primitive, but that
makes it a lot easier to write a simple dialing script.
Bottom line: PPP is easier than SLIP. If your service provider is on the
ball (and I'd bet UW-Madison is), you can install the PPP package, edit
rc.local to load the kernel server, reboot, start kermit, tell your modem
"ad&d0dt5551212", log in to your server and start PPP on that end, exit
kermit, type "pppd crtscts defaultroute /dev/cufa 38400", and you'll be
up. Writing a connect script so you can avoid kermit won't be much more
work.
--
Derek Beatty
beatty@netcom.com
Austin, Texas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bz@nols.edu (Bill zell)
Subject: Espresso
Message-ID: <D2o2Ks.JIz@nols.edu>
Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[7595]
Organization: National Outdoor Leadership School
References: <3erkn7$8q4@news-2.csn.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:10:04 GMT
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
Anyone out there using Espresso ( a developer environment)? We are
having trouble loading Espresso into Interface Builder (3.3). ANy
ideas?
thanks bill zell (bz@nols.edu)
From: "goggans, deborah lyn" <GOGGANS@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: test
Date: 20 JAN 95 16:51:31 EST
Organization: The University of Georgia
Sender: usenet@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU
Message-ID: <20JAN95.18207312.0067@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
thankew.
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From: doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Recent Gif viewer
Date: 20 Jan 1995 13:45:26 GMT
Organization: RSMAS/University of Miami, Miami, FL
Message-ID: <3foepm$5in@umigw.miami.edu>
Hi,
I've tried to get Michael McCulloch's ViewGif 3 (from the BGCD2) to view some
GIF89a files downloaded from the net, but the GIFs are somehow incompatable
with the viewer. I tried dowmnloading the files as both binary and ascii.
Does anyone know of a more recently developed GIF reader for the NeXT (black
hardware running 3.2)? Thanks.
Doug Stewart
Environmental Dynamics Research
doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NFS problem when mounting to Solaris2.4
Date: 21 Jan 1995 06:15:31 GMT
Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fq8q3$n08@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
References: <3fp02i$8t7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Keywords: solaris
The problem is on the Solaris side, and is really easy to fix. On the Solaris
box, change your nfs mount options to include -rsize=1024. If you use
automount, edit /etc/auto_master. If you use the mount command at boot time,
change /etc/dfs/dfstab to include the option. Test this change with the mount
command by hand before you permanently change the admin files on your system,
however once you successfully make this change on the Solaris machine you
should see the problem go away.
This should probably go in somebody's FAQ.
Tim
---
Timothy Reed, Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Voice: +1 718 522-5090 Fax: +1 718 852-4249 E-mail: treed@bmt.gun.com
"Reading documentation is an admission of failure."
In article <3fp02i$8t7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel) writes:
> dear readers of comp.sys.next.software,
>
> The problem is that commands like 'ls' or 'pwd' do not work properly on
> the SPARC when issued in a directory which is an NFS mount of files from a
> NeXT machine. I can access those files by commands like 'cat' and also do
> a 'cd' but when issuing 'ls' or 'pwd' there is no response. After one
> minuit or so the message 'NFS Server not responding, still trying' appears
> on the SPARC. This may repeat itself another few times and if I am patient
> enough it may end in 'NFS Server ok' without really giving any output or
> sometimes even gives some output.
> At first glance this may look like a network problem i.e. bad cable.
> However I am excluding this on the basis that there is no such problem on
> my network with
>
> Thanks in advance. Werner Wetzel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Subject: Why my HSDSpell doesn't works with others languages ?
Message-ID: <D2o9Gz.3s8@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 21:38:59 GMT
Hello.
I have installed HSDSpell and added another language as FREE.
I have also asked for 2 more languages and received the
activation code. None of the 3 added languages works. Just
English (NeXT) and English (HSD). When I try ask to spell
text using another language, HSDSpell simply beeps...
I can't really understand what the problem can be. I have
installed it as root, and reinstalled, and it doesn't works.
In Console I can see this 3 lines:
$$ ERROR:ICspl (INITIALIZE)
$$ ERROR:ICspl (INITIALIZE)
$$ ERROR:ICspl (INITIALIZE)
I'm running NS 3.2. Metrosoft.com try to help me, still now
without effect. Added languages are now unselectable in the
'Add Language' panel. All seems correct, but just seems...
I'm sure there is A LOT of people out there using HSDSpell
with languages other than English... any idea?
Thank you, Stefano
--
Stefano Unternaehrer NeXTStep Software Developer
Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe
phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064
NeXTmail: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
From: dave@borg.paradigm-shift.com (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 21 Jan 1995 22:50:26 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fs33i$gps@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3frrl5$2ohu@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Has anyone tried Absoft's Fortran 77, Absoft Corp. 313-853-0050, or, try
fortran@absoft.com
Dave
From: dave@borg.paradigm-shift.com (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 21 Jan 1995 22:50:36 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fs33s$gqe@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3frrl5$2ohu@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Has anyone tried Absoft's Fortran 77, Absoft Corp. 313-853-0050, or, try
fortran@absoft.com
Dave
From: dave@borg.paradigm-shift.com (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sorry...Newsgrazer working weird again...
Date: 21 Jan 1995 22:55:16 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fs3ck$gtt@redstone.interpath.net>
Newsgrazer told me the posts failed...apparently they didn't.
That's been in the program for a while.
Dave
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite --- tell me more about it!
Date: 21 Jan 1995 23:16:41 GMT
Organization: I'm not really all that organized.
Message-ID: <3fs4kp$438@bunyan.covenant.edu>
References: <3fj8kq$r7o$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
In article <3fj8kq$r7o$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Brian Dear
<70034.1062@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>
> We recently broke down and bought Pages software to try it out.
> We use Frame and Edit for our word processing needs on NEXTSTEP,
> but with Frame quoting over FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS for two Frame 3.2
> licenses, we figured it was time to look at Pages.
>
> Well, we're disappointed. The Mail Merge is pretty, but not usable
> in a business environment with multiple users on a net. Making the
> slightest change to a word here or there seems to involve so many
> "style steps" that some of our people are begging for us to switch
> to MS Word.
>
> Now... I hear about OpenWrite. I'd like to get some opinions on this.
> Does OpenWrite do MailMerge? Does it do it in such a way that the
> documents that are created are created as separate documents, or
> appended pages of a single document? (Try doing a Mail Merge on
> 200 addresses in Pages, and you get 200 SEPARATE FILES that you have
> to print out individually!!)
>
> Any suggestions, feedback, advice, etc., would be welcome and
> appreciated!
>
> -- brian dear
> coconut computing, inc.
You tickled my curiosity. I hadn't tried Mailmerge yet, so I thought I'd
give it a whirl. It turned out that you have to fire up another app called
OpenMerge to create the data file (or you can created a tab delimited
ascii file, but I didn't try this), so I started this up and created a
three row/three column file in a couple minutes, with the data. (That is,
three columns represent three merge variables, and the rows are the
specific instances of the variables.) This includes the time it took to
look at the manual to figure out what to do. It was a snap for a small
file: click on "add row" three times, click on "add column" three times,
and then fill in the data and names for the columns (the variable names).
For your 200 row file you will need to create 200 rows of course, but
there are keyboard equivalents for adding rows if you are starting from
scratch. You can also import existing data.
Once I had this OpenMerge document I opened up OpenWrite, and typed in a
page that used the three variables. To do this you first tell OpenWrite
what OpenMerge (or ascii) data file you want to use. Then when you want to
add a variable in the document, you choose a menu item "Tools/Merge/Insert
Merge Code" and a panel comes up allowing you choose one of the names of
the columns of the data file. You choose one, and it is inserted in the
document with the appearance: >>variable<<. After finishing the document
you choose "Tools/Merge/Merge" and you get a panel that allows you to
choose Merge, Print, email or fax. I chose Merge, and my one page document
turned into a three page document, each paging having the appropriately
merged data in place of the variables. Seems very simple. I was very
pleasantly surprised. Again, all this took only a few minutes to figure
out from the manual. How do they do it in MS Word? Must be similar.
Anyway, there's your answer: you get only one file, or direct to the
printer, email or fax you go.
Cheers,
Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Proxy ?
In-Reply-To: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl's message of 8 Jan 1995 11:50:54 GMT
To: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Message-ID: <STEPHAN.95Jan21210524@rodion.muc.de>
Sender: stephan@rodion.muc.de (Stephan Wacker)
Cc: httpd@info.cern.ch
Organization: Transmogrifiers Ltd.
References: <1995Jan5.185728.25658@cal.DCS-Systems.COM> <3ejisl$nfd@metro.atlanta.com>
<D1zn9C.I7o@cunews.carleton.ca> <3eojiu$1b1@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 20:05:24 GMT
On 8 Jan 1995 11:50:54 GMT, Geert Jan van Oldenborgh (GJ) wrote:
GJ>
GJ> Jason Bright (jbright@stimpy) wrote:
>> b) Get the CERN httpd server. It has a configuration option that lets
>> it run in proxy mode. Performance is good- cause it can/does caching of
>> requests- but configuration can be a little tricky.
GJ>
GJ> I run this configuration & I am having tons of trouble. I do not know
GJ> whether it is OmniWeb or the httpd, but I cannot open any URLs by hand, and
GJ> any time something goes wrong or I abort a download, things start acting up.
GJ> It looks as if OmniWeb tries to send requests of the form
GJ> http://server/http://server/.../http://actual_URL, which goes OK with only
GJ> one iteration but crashes with more. Eventually OmniWeb dies.
GJ>
GJ> I'd appreciate reports from people running OmniWeb with a proxy without
GJ> problems.
I can offer a patch for this problem. Add the following section to
Daemon/Implementation/HTDaemon.c, function compute_server_env(), right
after the bunch of initial FREE() statements:
---------->8----------
if( HTReqArg && *HTReqArg )
{
char *where = HTReqArg;
char *tmp = NULL;
char *cut = NULL;
while( where = strstr( where+1, "/http://" ) )
{
cut = where+1;
}
if( cut )
{
StrAllocCopy( tmp, cut );
CTRACE( stderr, "SW-Patch.... DUP: \"%s\" -> \"%s\"\n",
HTReqArg, tmp );
FREE( HTReqArg );
HTReqArg = tmp;
}
}
---------->8----------
It removes multiple `httpd://' prefixes from the request string.
This patch applies to httpd version 3.0, but it may very well work
with other versions, too.
Also make sure that you enter your server as a >http< >Proxy<. Don't
use it as a Gateway or for any other requests (news, ftp, etc.)
Hope that helps,
Stephan
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Stephan Wacker
stephan@rodion.muc.de [NeXTMail YES];
From: samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Date: 20 Jan 1995 16:17:30 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Jan20111731@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <marcelor.61.0000B32A@acs.bu.edu>
In-reply-to: marcelor@acs.bu.edu's message of Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:41:59
> Just curious - I'm brazilian , and the word always catches my
> attention ...
Samba is a very cool UNIX-side program that allows you to export UNIX
filesystems and services to Windows FWG and Windows NT clients.
It's easy to comple and configure (thanks to Mark@xexos.com for pointing
me to it). I was originally going to buy NFS for Windows, but this is
free and does everything I need.
- darcy
--
(prog (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move eat) eat (senseFood move eat))
rotRight eat) (prog move (prog (prog eat (senseFood move rotRight) eat) loop)
rotRight)) (prog (senseFood (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move move) eat
(senseFood move eat)) rotRight eat) (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 21 Jan 1995 20:43:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3frrl5$2ohu@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3fkl2q$mcg@news.ycc.yale.edu>
In article <3fkl2q$mcg@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan
F. Janette) writes:
> In article <3ffvq0$19ls@columba.udac.uu.se> peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se (Peter
> Trygg) writes:
> > Is there a FORTRAN compiler for NeXTSTEP runing (well) on a HP.
>
> No. You might think that it would be natural for HP to
> perform the recompile (and little more) of the hp-ux
> fortran compiler to port to NEXTSTEP/hppa. After all, it
> is the same hardware! I certainly think so. HP,
> regrettably, does not seem to think so, much to the
> hair-pulling frustration of the scientific/academic
> NEXTSTEP user base.
>
> --
This is really ridiculous. NeXT should help with this one.
From: rkirchne@mathcs.carleton.edu (Roger Kirchner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Neural NeXTworks?
Date: 21 Jan 1995 16:05:07 GMT
Organization: Carleton College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3frbbj$1q3@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu>
References: <1995Jan14.182019.1648@sultan.ping.de> <3fjiu7$jjv@news.csus.edu>
Martin Hunke (hunke@ernie.SFSU.EDU) wrote:
: In article <1995Jan14.182019.1648@sultan.ping.de> erik@sultan.ping.de
: (Erik Doernenburg) writes:
: >
: > True. I got that version a couple of weeks ago and with the patches
: > developed by Randolf Werner <evol@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> everything
: > works fine now. I have to say that I'm quite impressed by that package
: > although it can be a bit awkward to create new training sets.
: >
: Since I have some trouble compiling SNNS on NeXT, I would highly
: appreciate any hint to the following questions:
: - Where can I obtain these patches?
: - How do I run the graphical interface?
: Thank you very much in advance
: Martin Hunke
: San Francisco State University
I also got patches from
Randolf Werner <evol@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de>
He sent them by NeXTMail. In order to install, you also need
uname, a shell script. Randolf Werner also has that. Ask for both.
Future releases of SNNS will probably include next patches.
You can configure to compile on Motorola, Intel and HP -- binaries
are kept in separate directories. We can now run xgui from either
either a black or white NeXT. You do need XWindows. We use CubX.
-Roger Kirchner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: PNI Problems - -Help
Message-ID: <1995Jan22.055340.3925@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 05:53:40 GMT
I am working with an Intel machine that iws runnning 3.3 and PNI. I can
make a connection once, but upon trying again, it will not even talk to
the modem. I have to reboot the machine.
I beleive that the problem may revolve around the fact that our IP
address is assigned when we logging to our service provider. Is there a
way to deal with this?
Thanks
WEs
--
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jspears@weston.com | MIME MAil Welcome
The Weston Group |
8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: Nicole A Vincent <nicolev@number_one.ppit.com.au>
Subject: Need Database Development/Access tools
Message-ID: <D2szJ2.A1@number_one.ppit.com.au>
Sender: usenet@number_one.ppit.com.au
Organization: Ashe's on Heidelberg - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 10:52:14 GMT
Hi
I'm in need of an easy to program database package,... basically I need
the graphical niceness of DataPhile (for both designing the database and
accessing it) but something relational which can cope with a client-server
type design.
Truthfully, I do not think much of programming it in Objective-C with
Interface builder so I'd like something really simple,...
Please send suggestions, prices, ftp sites (for demos) to me, but do keep
the emails to a smaller size :-)
Thanx in advance.
Cheers
Nicole
---
--------------------------- NeXTmail Accepted ---------------------------
Nicole Vincent : nicolev@number_one.ppit.com.au
MELBOURNE VIC AUSTRALIA
The joys of love made her human and the agonies of love destroyed her.
-- Spock, "Requiem for Methuselah", stardate 5842.8
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew)
Subject: C compiler for NS 3.3 user
Message-ID: <edewD2sLn4.HGA@netcom.com>
Sender: Eric Dew
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 05:52:15 GMT
Ok, here's the situation: I'm planning to take a course on C language
programming. There are no computers available at the class, so I have to use
whatever is available. I do own a NeXT workstation (16/405/33 mono).
It is running NS 3.3 user. I would like to be able to do C programming on it,
but because it is a user OS, I can't. Or can I? Well, if I type 'cc' in a
terminal window, it does run. However, none of the header files are
present anywhere (I did a search for *.h files and none of the standard
things like stdio.h, stdlib.h, etc. were found.)
Is there a way for me to get these files and whatever accompanying files
and executables without having to pay for a developer OS? I don't want all
of what the developer offers (unless that's all it offers above the user OS),
I just want to be able to do some C compiling.
I know there gcc available via anonymous ftp from the various ftp sites that
carry NeXT stuff, but I'm not sure whrere they should be placed (or is it
pretty clear, like everything else with NeXT software?) and I really don't
have the time to download 5+ MB worth of ascii (via uuencoding) text through
my modem: 5MB might take me about 7+ hours!.
In closing: anywhere I can buy a C ompiler for NeXT for cheap? Suggestions or
comments?
Your can either email me your reply (since I often don't read this particular
newsgroup) or post it here for everyone else (and I'll just keep a keeneye
out for your replies).
Thanks,
EDEW
(edew@netcom.com)
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIS-Help (ARC/Info)
Date: 22 Jan 1995 16:23:44 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3fu0qg$d2v@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <D2p5p5.128@softpac.com.au>
In article <D2p5p5.128@softpac.com.au> Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
writes:
> One of our clients is looking to tie in to ARC/INFO. Can anyone help with
> any information about interfacing with ESRI Arc/Info.
>
> Your assistance would be appreciated!
No ESRI Arc/Info for NeXTSTEP (... and not a single GIS program/package for NS)
:-(
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: tredir and NewsGrazer
Message-ID: <D2sDH4.AKn@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 02:55:52 GMT
Could someone point me towards information about these tools. If this
allows me to read news from my system, as opposed to reading it from a
shell account, then this definitely appeals to me.
Also, do I need to wean myself from a shell account in order to enjoy
NeXTMail?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff sources ><
From: drinke@wc187.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Personal Calendar SW
Date: 23 Jan 1995 01:01:23 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3fuv53$j75@mordred.gatech.edu>
References: <3furp2$1bu5@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Stephen J. Perkins (perkins@sidney2b) wrote:
: Howdy!
: I've been looking for a personal calendar program. I checked out
: Dater.app and PencilMeIn.app. I like both but they are too expensive (no
: student discounts). I also probably don't need network scheduling.
There's a shareware program called 'Cassandra' if I remember correctly.
The price is good :) And it's relatively simple.
: ====================================================================
: Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
: Department of Computer Science | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
: Michigan State University | Please No NeXTMAIL
: "To lead a balanced life, its probably a good idea to try
: to go to bed the day before you get up."
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
From: hacker@access.digex.net (Dark Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for rev control systems and CASE tools
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 08:06:57 -0500
Organization: Fortress Of Computation
Message-ID: <hacker-2201950806570001@dcc00171.slip.digex.net>
The company I work for is looking for source code (and NIBS, etc if we can
get it) systems for the NeXT. Is CVS about the only game in town? We
have a 6-person development team that needs to do the usual team
development source code control thing. What products are out there?
Also we're interested in CASE tools for the NeXT. Something that let's us
design software graphically and then spits out code that can be
controlled. Objective C prefered of course. Any ideas?
- Hacker
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of SLIP vs. PPP for slab?
References: <3fjtgn$nl1@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <3fn5lb$2a5@beatty.slip.netcom.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 12:14:59 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jan22.121459.15089@proximus.north.de>
In article <3fn5lb$2a5@beatty.slip.netcom.com>,
Derek Beatty <beatty@netcom.com> wrote:
[...]
>is like Algol 68: an improvement over its successor. DialupIP will do
>dial-on-demand, but the free version of PNI will not. I used PNI for
[...]
Can ppp do dial-on-demand?
Even better, would it be possible to configure it that only some users
are allowed to do so, maybe even only at certain times?
Can it be done that ppp tries several different numbers and configures
itself to different IPs?
Thanks for any hint, Gerhard.
PS: At the moment I use PNI, but it cannot do Dial-On-Demand, which
makes it complicated to use for my girlfriend...
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e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e
X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T
NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de (Alfred Fiedler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 17" NeXTstation color monitor wiring diagram?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 08:24:23 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
Message-ID: <3fvp3n$mk2@news.uni-paderborn.de>
Hello everybody,
now its my turn and my 17" NeXTstation color monitor died but I hope not
for ever.
Maybe someone is able to post me a wiring diagram. Therefore against all
odds I might get the opportunity to repair it (Yes, I am an electrical
engineer).
Any help will be expected at
Fax.: +5251 603443
E-mail: afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de
(NeXT-mail welcome)
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: History key?
Date: 23 Jan 95 00:27:09 EST
Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <1995Jan23.002709.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
In Terminal, is there a history key analagous to the up arrow in VMS or Linux?
Thanks
Scott
Scott Davenport / sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu / NeXTMail OK!
From: allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Date: 22 Jan 1995 20:34:31 GMT
Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Message-ID: <3fufgn$htr@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
References: <SAMURAI.95Jan20111731@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
Where can this program be found?
From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MIDI Software/Hardware Questions
Date: 23 Jan 1995 07:42:53 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland
Message-ID: <3fvmlt$46h@net.auckland.ac.nz>
References: <zzzD2uF3H.En7@netcom.com>
zzz@netcom.com (jt) writes:
>I have recently been enlightened to some of the built-in midi
>capabilities of NeXTs, both from a hardware (black) and software
>standpoint. But I have a few "can it do this" type of questions.
>Assume I have a NeXT cube with 16 megs of RAM, a 330 meg hard drive,
>and the approriate midi interface, oh, and a decent amount of
>knowledge working with midi.
>Can I trigger different audio "samples", each on its own midi channel,
>via midi going into the NeXT (from a controller or some other external
>sequencer)?
Welcome to the NeXT music world... (I'm not sure whether a smilie or frownie
is more appropriate here).
The good news: yes, all this is possible. What you need is called the "Music
Kit", now up to release 4.1.1 on ftp from ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu
There is a demo application with it called Ensemble.app by Michael McNabb
(michael@mcnabb.com) that does all this and more.
1: yes you can use it as a basic sample playback device. Beware the timing is
not tight -- samples (files) often lag a little if they overlap. You don't get
a lot of polyphony either.
>Can I trigger different audio waveforms (ala DSP?)?
2: yes. There are several "synth instruments" included (wavetable, pluck
string, FM synthesis, waveshaper) that can do this with a bit of tweaking. The
"programming" of these instruments is easy, but making satisfying sounds may
not be. Fun, anyway.
>Can I trigger different audio waveforms, BUT modify them real time as
>if the NeXT were a neato little synth with a mouse instead of a slider
>and knobs? ;)
3: Hey, the NeXT *IS* a neato little synth with a mouse. Yes, you can modify
the sounds in real time with the mouse, but even better you can assign most
of the parameters to MIDI controllers and control them either externally
or programatically, within Ensemble. That is, you could set a fractal melody
playing with one fractal controlling an arbitrary MIDI controller (which in
turn controls some aspect of the sound).
>Basically what I want to do with it via midi is have it act as either
>a sample playback unit, or a synth/tone module... but have different
-----------------
>sounds (tones and/or samples) respond on different channels, and if
>so, what applications would I need? For audio sampling I would be
>using an AV mac capable of saving sounds in different formats then
>grabbing them from the Mac to the NeXT via ethernet, so the NeXT does
>not have to be able to record any of the audio I'd be using as
>samples.
Not really suitable I'm afraid. Buy a sampler or a tone module. That's what
samplers and tone modules are made for, and they do it really well. Loads of
polyphony, and lightning fast response. You won't get this from the NeXT.
Theoretically it's possible, and Ensemble theoretically can be used to do
it, but there are lots of reasons why not. Here's the bad news.
1: Ensemble is buggy. I'm in the last 2 days of a Master's project largely
using Ensemble and MAX on the Mac, and I've spent more time debugging Ensemble
than any other single activity. At least now it doesn't crash or hang on
me very often, but there are further bugs to squash.
2: As mentioned above, polyphony and response. If you use synthpatches (as
opposed to sample playback) you might get half a dozen voices, maybe more or
less. For samples, you can get 4 mono channels at 16 bit 44.1 or 2xstereo 16b
44.1 or any sort of combination that makes up that quota. 22kHz samples are a
good option, losing only a bit of quality (depending on how exacting your ear
is) and giving twice the number of channels simultaneously.
Response is a tricky one... it's all to do with the overhead that the music kit
puts on the whole operation. It's possible to trim this back a lot, but you
sacrifice some stability in timing.
3:Because it's just a front end to the music kit, there are some funnies that
you wouldn't expect. This statement may not make sense until you've used
the program a bit and looked under the hood to see why it isn't doing what you
wanted it to. Try recording some midi with it, saving the score file then
trying to re-orchestrate the score. All the channels/tracks appear to be
mucked up (the numbering). All due to the way the music kit works, and not
the way it would appear logical from looking at the Ensemble interface.
4: Last point -- the documentation is very poor. I'm not blaming Michael for
this -- after all it is basically a programming example. But for someone
coming in to look at it for the first time it can be surprisingly tricky
if (for example) you want to work with scores.
From all my experiences with Ensemble I may well write some extra documenta-
tion and submit it to Michael.
>Any and all info is greatly appreciated,
>-jt
Good luck. By all means download Ensemble (within the music kit) and have a
good play. There is some neat stuff in it. It will introduce you to some of
the more interesting features of NeXT music (I personally love the Resonators,
but you have to have some sort of 16 bit A->D). Just don't expect something
to compare with a top end sampler/synth module.
Steve
sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail not very welcome right now :-(
From: Rudi Stouffs <rstouffs+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Modem for Next
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 18:11:24 -0500
Organization: Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Mj93SQO00iV0M_MFMC@andrew.cmu.edu>
I have a few basic questions.
I have a Nextcube running Nextstep 2.1 in my office that I would like to
take home. The only way I'll be able to transfer files between my Next
and other computers will be through the network.
Thus I'll by myself a modem, but I'm afraid this is not the end.
I understand that just with a modem I could only use this Next as a
dummy terminal.
That, in order to use my Next as I have until now, ftping files back and
forth (or something like that) I may need something like SLIP.
Now I have never dealt with a modem sofar and I don't really know know
much about it.
My question is, exactly what would I need and what is available for the
Next that I could run under NS2.1
Of course, I could upgrade NS if necessary, but I would like to keep
everything as cheap as possible.
If there's any information missing here, please send me e-mail and ask for it.
I would really appreciate it if I could get some help with this.
Thanks a lot,
-Rudi Stouffs
From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 11:16:45 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3g036t$23q@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <SAMURAI.95Jan20111731@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
In article <SAMURAI.95Jan20111731@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
> Samba is a very cool UNIX-side program that allows you to export UNIX
> filesystems and services to Windows FWG and Windows NT clients.
>
> It's easy to comple and configure (thanks to Mark@xexos.com for pointing
> me to it). I was originally going to buy NFS for Windows, but this is
> free and does everything I need.
I don't suppose you've managed to get the printing working, ie. printing
from an NT machine to a NeXT printer, a working smb.conf for this would be
greatly appreciated if anyone has one..
-Paul-
--
Paul Civati, Xexos Ltd Work: paul@xexos.com
Bermondsey London UK Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk
From: peter@calypso (Peter Trygg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 12:36:18 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g07s2$bch@columba.udac.uu.se>
References: <3frrl5$2ohu@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3fs33s$gqe@redstone.interpath.net>
Dave Briggman (dave@borg.paradigm-shift.com) wrote:
: Has anyone tried Absoft's Fortran 77, Absoft Corp. 313-853-0050, or, try
: fortran@absoft.com
: Dave
Yep, I did and this is the reply i got:
> Peter,
>
> We have no plans to develop a HPPA version of our F77 for NEXTSTEP.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Wood Lotz
So, the only FORTRAN there is is f2c and even if it is good
it is still not enough for our needs.
Peter
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Trygg peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se
Department of Theoretical Physics
Uppsala University
-------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dcode@cyclesoft.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Message-ID: <D2uCDH.9Cq@clive>
Sender: paul@clive (Paul Marcos)
Organization: dCode
References: <3fufgn$htr@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 04:27:17 GMT
In article <3fufgn$htr@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu
(Allen Y. Tien) writes:
> Where can this program be found?
From the Samba README file:
The main anonymous ftp distribution site for this software is
nimbus.anu.edu.au in the directory pub/tridge/samba/.
Enjoy it, I do!
Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "Kathi Fisler" <kfisler@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Problem with hostname change in 3.0
Message-ID: <1995Jan22.140022.25178@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 14:00:14 -0500
I'm running NS 3.0 (black) on a standalone machine. I would like to
change the default hostname "localhost". When I change the name using
HostManager.app and reboot, the change appears to take effect, but I
am no longer able to load emacs properly. While loading, emacs gives
me the error "Unknown host <new hostname>". I'm running EmacsApp 3.0.
I used to have this same problem running under NS 2.1. If I change
the hostname back to localhost, everything works fine.
Any ideas what's wrong?
--
Kathi Fisler kfisler@cs.indiana.edu
Visual Inference and Hardware Methods Laboratories, Indiana University
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Personal Calendar SW
Date: 23 Jan 1995 00:03:46 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3furp2$1bu5@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Howdy!
I've been looking for a personal calendar program. I checked out
Dater.app and PencilMeIn.app. I like both but they are too expensive (no
student discounts). I also probably don't need network scheduling.
Anybody know of other alternative apps?
Many TIAs.
- Steve
--
====================================================================
Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Department of Computer Science | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
Michigan State University | Please No NeXTMAIL
"To lead a balanced life, its probably a good idea to try
to go to bed the day before you get up."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Subject: FrameMaker - tangled up in threads
Message-ID: <D2v3A5.810@hazel.north.de>
Keywords: FrameMaker, thread
Sender: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Organization: Great Mathematical Developments, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 14:08:28 GMT
My FrameMaker (3.0.1 on black) has the interesting feature (or bug ?) to
generate a new thread about every 15 minutes, regardless whether it is
doing anything or not. Every few days I consequently get a message: "mach:
Expanding zone threads".
Is this normal? Does your FrameMaker concern itself with the same hobby?
Is there any need wo worry? Is there a reason for this behaviour? Can I
(should I) do anything against it?
Gerriet.
From: samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 15:21:10 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Jan23102110@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <SAMURAI.95Jan20111731@marge.cs.mcgill.ca> <3g036t$23q@xexos.xexos.com>
In-reply-to: paul@xexos.com's message of 23 Jan 1995 11:16:45 GMT
<paul@xexos.com> writes:
>I don't suppose you've managed to get the printing working, ie. printing
>from an NT machine to a NeXT printer, a working smb.conf for this would be
>greatly appreciated if anyone has one..
Not yet.... consulting is keeping me away from my NT experimentation...
I was pleased as punch to get a filesystem over the net, and am now
trying to get rmail working right within emacs. Once I have these
things, then I'm on to printing, then software development. I need to
interact nicely with other UNIXes first.
- db
--
(prog (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move eat) eat (senseFood move eat))
rotRight eat) (prog move (prog (prog eat (senseFood move rotRight) eat) loop)
rotRight)) (prog (senseFood (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move move) eat
(senseFood move eat)) rotRight eat) (senseFood (prog (prog (senseFood move
From: haibach@monte.chem.brown.edu (Fred Haibach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: dynamic addressing and SLIP for the NeXT?
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 12:39:20 -0500
Organization: Brown University -- Providence, Rhode Island USA
Message-ID: <haibach-2301951239200001@alfred.chem.brown.edu>
Hi,
Does anyone know of a SLIP package for black hardware that supports SLIP
and dynamic addressing with a Cisco server? I wrote Louis Makamos at
TransSys PNI and he states that his SLIP does not support this and does
not recommend trying it with his software.
Thanks,
FgH...
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Why does Mail think I'm at NeXT.com?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 20:05:50 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3g126u$lsi@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I'm a new slab owner. My machine has 3.2, and I think the hard
disk came out of a machine owned by a former NeXT engineer.
So I was playing with Mail and tried to send mail to myself,
and it always seems to get lost! This is from the account I
created, "finton", using the defaults given for new user accounts.
Then I tried sending mail to "finton" from "me". This also was
lost. But I can send mail to "me" from either account. And
here's the strange part: When I send mail to "me" from the
"finton" account, the message shows up as from "finton@NeXT.com".
I'm guessing that some host information somewhere is out of date.
How do I fix this? My machine is not on a network, but I may be
trying to set it up with SLIP/PPP soon, and I'm concerned that
I may have problems.
Thanks,
David Finton
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Is this true, NeXT copy protection of NS?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 15:07:25 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g129t$ig2@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Someone (sorry I forgot who) sent me email with this explanation for why
BuildDisk 3.3 doesnt work (BTW, I still dont have an answer if the only problem
is the one link, it seems to work otherwise).
>if I remember correctly, the manual of the 3.3 upgrade said that the
BuildDisk.app will not work correctly in 3.3. I think they are not going to
fix this because this keeps the people from copying NeXTStep illegally.
You definitely seem to need the CDs to install NeXTStep.
I know that they say its broken, but to NOT fix it for copy protection reasons
is really dense? First off, its just as easy to install NS from OD as it is
from BuildDisk. BuildDisk has only a couple advantages:
1) it can build onto 1024b/s drives, which the CD program cannot (and is why I
need it).
2) for sysadmin people who frequently need to make 'experimental' NS disks to
try out weird things, and its more convient to do this within NS so you can
set Instance0.table's in the same session etc.
But, for a one time pirated copy it makes no sense, just as easy to make a
one time copy from a CD ROM??? Whats even more bizarre, why if they didn't
want people to use BuildDisk to copy things, would they leave a broken copy
on the CD? Why not just take it off completely.
Anyway, I cant imagine who would bother to pirate NS? Its so huge that you
really do need to buy it for all the manuals, and the backup CD for in case
things go wrong...
If this is true, it is truly bizarre?!
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: Re: Real 3.3 Mail shortcomings?
Message-ID: <D2vJyo.C09@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
References: <D2IHtp.4KF@nvc.cc.ca.us> <3fju8m$ru7@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 20:08:47 GMT
In article <3fju8m$ru7@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>,
Wassim M. Jabi <wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu> wrote:
>What I do is use the "MailTo" service (available at all standard ftp
>archives). You simply hilite any e-mail address in any application and
>choose Service->MailTo. Mail.app gets activated with a new Compose Window
>and the E-mail address is pasted in the "To" field. Simple and effective!
>I mostly use it from within the Mail.app when people give me e-mail
>addresses of other people to contact. It beats, hiliting, copying,
>clicking compose and then pasting. I just hilite and choose the menu item.
>I only wish I knew of a way to add a Command-key equivalent, so that I
>don't have to pull down menus.
Mynah also already has this service built in. It's called
"New Message To..."
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/demos/mail/Mynah-0.8ay.tar.gz
--
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Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063
2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558
<fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: zzz@netcom.com (jt)
Subject: MIDI Software/Hardware Questions
Message-ID: <zzzD2uF3H.En7@netcom.com>
Organization: The Mind Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 05:26:05 GMT
I have recently been enlightened to some of the built-in midi
capabilities of NeXTs, both from a hardware (black) and software
standpoint. But I have a few "can it do this" type of questions.
Assume I have a NeXT cube with 16 megs of RAM, a 330 meg hard drive,
and the approriate midi interface, oh, and a decent amount of
knowledge working with midi.
Can I trigger different audio "samples", each on its own midi channel,
via midi going into the NeXT (from a controller or some other external
sequencer)?
Can I trigger different audio waveforms (ala DSP?)?
Can I trigger different audio waveforms, BUT modify them real time as
if the NeXT were a neato little synth with a mouse instead of a slider
and knobs? ;)
Basically what I want to do with it via midi is have it act as either
a sample playback unit, or a synth/tone module... but have different
sounds (tones and/or samples) respond on different channels, and if
so, what applications would I need? For audio sampling I would be
using an AV mac capable of saving sounds in different formats then
grabbing them from the Mac to the NeXT via ethernet, so the NeXT does
not have to be able to record any of the audio I'd be using as
samples.
Any and all info is greatly appreciated,
-jt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rwach@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Chip Ach)
Subject: Re: History key?
Message-ID: <1995Jan23.174653.16871@midway.uchicago.edu>
Keywords: Terminal tcsh csh
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Cc: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
References: <1995Jan23.002709.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 17:46:53 GMT
In article <1995Jan23.002709.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>,
<sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> wrote:
>In Terminal, is there a history key analagous to the up arrow in VMS or Linux?
Try using tcsh instead of csh... The biggest reason I installed it is
because of the history feature. It's available from the normal ftp
site; let me know if you have problems finding it.
-Chip
-------
rwach@midway.uchicago.edu Non-NeXT mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dcode@cyclesoft.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Message-ID: <D2v7KB.A3s@clive>
Sender: paul@clive (Paul Marcos)
Organization: dCode
References: <3g036t$23q@xexos.xexos.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 15:40:58 GMT
In article <3g036t$23q@xexos.xexos.com> paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
writes:
> In article <SAMURAI.95Jan20111731@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
> samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>
> > Samba is a very cool UNIX-side program that allows you to export UNIX
> > filesystems and services to Windows FWG and Windows NT clients.
> >
> > It's easy to comple and configure (thanks to Mark@xexos.com for
pointing
> > me to it). I was originally going to buy NFS for Windows, but this is
> > free and does everything I need.
>
> I don't suppose you've managed to get the printing working, ie. printing
> from an NT machine to a NeXT printer, a working smb.conf for this would
be
> greatly appreciated if anyone has one..
>
That's a known problem in the current version. Supposedly a fix is
imminent. I presume that you've been trying to get it to print using the
Print Manager? I've been able to get it working by using the command line
commands to connect to the printer. I use the following:
net use lpt1: \\clive\picky_picky /persistent:yes
where clive is the host and picky_picky is the name of the printer. I'm
not 100% sure about the persistent flag syntax but if you do a net use /?
then you'll see what the right syntax is.
Hope that helps.
Paul
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
dCode | dcode@cyclesoft.com | NeXTMail preferred!
Paul Marcos | (415) 960-3259 |
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 18:17:11 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g0rr7$3n6k@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3g07s2$bch@columba.udac.uu.se>
In article <3g07s2$bch@columba.udac.uu.se> peter@calypso (Peter Trygg)
writes:
> Dave Briggman (dave@borg.paradigm-shift.com) wrote:
> : Has anyone tried Absoft's Fortran 77, Absoft Corp. 313-853-0050, or,
try
> : fortran@absoft.com
>
> : Dave
>
> Yep, I did and this is the reply i got:
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > We have no plans to develop a HPPA version of our F77 for NEXTSTEP.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Wood Lotz
gregg dinse was heading up this crusade last spring and summer. we
gave wood lotz a list of people who, in total, wanted somewhere
around 60 licenses i believe. wood said he'd need 100 confirmed
license requests in order to justify a port. my numbers might be
slightly off but this was the jist of the whole thing.
we also talked with NAG (numerical algorithms group) and from what
i remember, they could not commit either, alltho they did sound
a bit more enthusiastic.
gregg, are you still on the net? can you give a better update?
unless we can get a fortran compiler for ns/hppa, we're just going
to have to wait for openstep...
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 18:52:07 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3g0tsn$60g@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <D2v7KB.A3s@clive>
In article <D2v7KB.A3s@clive> dcode@cyclesoft.com (Paul Marcos) writes:
> That's a known problem in the current version. Supposedly a fix is
> imminent. I presume that you've been trying to get it to print using the
> Print Manager? I've been able to get it working by using the command
> line commands to connect to the printer. I use the following:
Oh well, I will wait on the next version then. Don't suppose you could
email me your smb.conf anyway, just so I can see if my rough configuration
is right?
> where clive is the host and picky_picky is the name of the printer. I'm
> not 100% sure about the persistent flag syntax but if you do a net use /?
> then you'll see what the right syntax is.
Hmmm, this doesn't seem to work either, gives some message about the
network name having been deleted, whatever that means.
> Hope that helps.
Sure, saved me wasting my time. :-)
-Paul-
--
Paul Civati, Xexos Ltd Work: paul@xexos.com
Bermondsey London UK Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sorting incoming mail
Date: 23 Jan 1995 23:15:23 GMT
Organization: I'm not really all that organized.
Message-ID: <3g1dab$lrv@bunyan.covenant.edu>
References: <3f0ln0$akr@viper.is.rest.tasc.com>
In article <3f0ln0$akr@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> shunfemd@rest.tasc.com
(Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike)) writes:
| In article <3eskhu$c3e@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com>
| hern@barclay.advtech.uswest.com (Steve Herndon) writes:
| > Is it possible to automatically sort incoming mail into mail mbox's
[Munch]
|It is possible possible to sort incoming mail based upon text in the
subject
|line or the sender name, with other possiblities that I have not explored
yet.
|To do so, you need two utilities:
|
| 1. procmail, a generic unix utility which reads a text file of your
sorting
| rules. It is available from: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
|
| 2. appnmail, part of a set of Next-specific utilites that append mail
forwarded
| from procmail into Next mailboxes. This is obtainable in the utility
set
| mailapp-utilities, from any of the major Next ftp sites.
Funny, I only set up procmail to direct my incoming mail from various
lists to the directories that function as the Next mailboxes. This seems
to work fine. What is the function of appnmail? Would this have to do with
NeXTMail?
Cheers,
Don Petcher
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dynamic addressing and SLIP for the NeXT?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 23:05:48 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3g1coc$bob@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <haibach-2301951239200001@alfred.chem.brown.edu>
In article <haibach-2301951239200001@alfred.chem.brown.edu>,
Fred Haibach <haibach@monte.chem.brown.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know of a SLIP package for black hardware that supports SLIP
>and dynamic addressing with a Cisco server? I wrote Louis Makamos at
>TransSys PNI and he states that his SLIP does not support this and does
>not recommend trying it with his software.
>
Huh? I use PNI with White Hardware and it works fine with dynamic slip on
a Cisco Server. I haven't used PNI on black and obviously Louis knows
his product, but I can't but wonder if there is some misunderstanding here.
If there's something different with the black version of PNI that doesn't
support the above, its not apparent to me. Have you tried it? What
version software is your Cisco running?
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 21:33:26 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g17b6$hbi@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <3fs33s$gqe@redstone.interpath.net>
In article <3fs33s$gqe@redstone.interpath.net>
dave@borg.paradigm-shift.com (Dave Briggman) writes:
> Has anyone tried Absoft's Fortran 77, Absoft Corp. 313-853-0050, or, try
> fortran@absoft.com
Although Absoft has (or had) a NEXTSTEP Intel Fortran Compiler, it is not
a simple fat compile. The compiler is very architecture specific. Absoft
does not seem to be actively interested in the NEXTSTEP HPPA market. A
petition run by Greg Dinse at NIH went to them last summer and several of
us talked with Absoft managers but last I heard they were still waiting
for numbers (seats). At least 2 other compiler products contacted Greg, I
think one of them was Nag and I forget the other one (maybe GreenHills?).
I dont know if they are working on a product now however.--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA? -- Maybe a solution
Date: 24 Jan 1995 18:18:27 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g3g9j$17ft@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3g07s2$bch@columba.udac.uu.se>
Hi,
I am not really a Fortran guy but if the general acceptance of
NeXT depends on the availability of a real Fortran compiler then
this hint maybe useful.
Have you ever considered the new g77 (GNU Fortran Compiler)?
I am not talking about f2c here! This real Fortran compiler
is currently in alpha test but shall be released to the public
at the end of this month. I am sure that it can be easily ported
to all kinds of systems and so may be a solution to your Fortran
problem.
Here is the text that you get with 'finger -l fortran@gate.gnu.ai.mit.edu'
-------------------------------
[spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu]
GNU Fortran alpha testers acct (fortran)
Home: /home/gd2/fortran
Shell: /usr/local/gnubin/bash
Mail forwarded to burley.
GNU Fortran alpha testers acct (fortran) is not presently logged in.
Last seen at spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu on Fri Jan 20 12:52:05 1995
Plan:
CONTENTS OF THIS FILE: (last updated 95/01/20)
- GNU FORTRAN AVAILABILITY (95/01/01)
- ALPHA TEST STATUS (95/01/20)
- WHAT IS GNU FORTRAN? (93/04/08)
- WHAT WILL GNU FORTRAN SUPPORT? (95/01/01)
- HOW TO GET F2C (94/05/23)
- IMPORTANT EMAIL ADDRESSES (94/03/08)
- HOW TO GET THIS FILE (94/03/08)
GNU FORTRAN AVAILABILITY (last updated 95/01/01)
------------------------
GNU Fortran (g77) is in private alpha test (as of September 26, 1992).
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) expects g77 to be fully released to
the public during January 1995. Until then we advise people to use
f2c (a FORTRAN-to-C translator) and gcc (the GNU C compiler). As
g77 is largely based on these two tools (the f2c libraries and the
gcc back end), your use of them will help speed the release of g77.
Both f2c and gcc are available from the FSF. Ask gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu or
Free Software Foundation
675 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139
+1-617-876-3296
for details on ordering them.
ALPHA TEST STATUS (last updated 95/01/20)
-----------------
The latest private alpha-test release of g77 is:
g77-0.5.2 (94/11/18 08:30) -- the front end
gcc-2.6.2 (94/11/18 08:30) -- the back end
The 0.5.3 compiler per se seems ready for private release now, but I'm
hoping to finish off packaging stuff so the private testers can
help ensure that it's all pretty decent before I release it to the
public. Much more delay, and I'll just release what I have to them,
and work on packaging in parallel with their testing. The 0.5.3
compiler has lots more internal changes than I planned for this
release -- I knew I had to do it in 0.6 anyway, so it's good it's
done -- and it should be better (I hope!) at configuring itself and
supporting things like Alpha (64-bit) machines. How well libf2c copes
with this, we'll found out soon!
Changes in g77-0.5.2:
Upgrade to gcc 2.6.2
Various cosmetic changes to improve installability and maintenance
vis-a-vis the GCC back end and its various versions
Install patches to make g77 driver work better
Improve wording of catchall error message so it is more helpful
Allow '$' in identifiers if requested via command-line option
Fix bugs that prevented stand-alone front end from building/working
New g77 driver has fixed name for .f "language"
Changes in g77-0.5.1:
Make it possible to actually invoke the compiler (sigh, forgot to
change the name of the executable in the gcc command driver! :-)
Changes in g77-0.5.0:
Upgrade back end from 2.5.8 through 2.6.0 to ss-941026
Bad code emitted for almost any useful code, due to an apparent bug
or design change in the back end -- fixed in 2.6.0
Bugs pending or being worked on:
A few compiler crashes involving "highly diagnosed code"
Warn if building cross-compiler for target with different, and
not emulated, floating-point format (g77 has unfortunate
dependency on correct emulation of target FP format that is
itself a bug to be fixed in 1.0)
Building and installing libf2c not part of g77 build process
Required patches for back end to support g77 includes some stuff
that g77 can really do on its own
INTEGER*2 and related support missing, might be done for 0.6
Source with large aggregate (COMMON/EQUIVALENCE) areas having even
small amounts initialized (via DATA) takes too long to compile
-- might be improved for 0.6
RS/6000 support in back end still not complete in 2.6.3 back end
(Remaining bugs haven't been verified for 0.5 yet:)
Back-end crash for -O with NAMELIST -- probable 2.5.8 back end bug
Strange debugger output for CHARACTER dummy data and type -- probably
2.5.8 back-end or gdb bug
WHAT IS GNU FORTRAN? (last updated 93/04/08)
--------------------
GNU Fortran is the Fortran development system for Project GNU. GNU
means "GNU's Not UNIX(tm)" and is the primary project currently being worked
on by the Free Software Foundation (FSF), a non-profit organization
committed to the creation of a large body of useful, free, source-code-
available software. GNU is intended as a replacement, wholesale and/or
in pieces, of a complete UNIX system. (UNIX is a trademark of AT&T.)
GNU Fortran, also called g77, consists of a compiler, run-time libraries,
debugger support, and documentation. g77 supports ANSI FORTRAN 77
conformance, plus popular extensions to Fortran including some ANSI/ISO
Fortran 90 features.
The g77 compiler is a combination of a "front end" that translates
Fortran source programs and a "back end" that uses the results of the
translation to make an object or executable file that performs the
actions specified by the source programs when run. The back end is
the same back end used by GNU C, C++, and Objective-C, which have their
own front ends to translate their respective languages. Other front ends
for Pascal and ADA are in progress.
The run-time libraries for g77 are currently whatever is compatible with
the libraries used by the f2c program, a public-domain Fortran-to-C
converter from AT&T Bell Laboratories and Bellcore. f2c comes with its
own libraries (written in C) for systems that don't already have compatible
libraries. By using the same libraries, procedures compiled by g77 and f2c
can be freely mixed to create an executable program. However, g77 is unable
to offer some popular extensions that aren't supported by f2c-compatible
libraries, and the interface to the libraries isn't necessarily a
high-performance design. Thus, use of the f2c library interface might
be a short-term thing. (SEE BELOW for "HOW TO GET F2C".)
Debugger support for g77 consists of compiler code to output the appropriate
debugging information when -g is specified at compile time plus code in
the GNU Debugger, GDB, to support evaluation of Fortran expressions.
The private alpha test is called "private" because the source code making
up the test is not being publicly released. Only those testers and developers
accepted by the author of GNU Fortran should have a copy of g77 currently.
It is called "alpha" because it is the first phase of testing (alpha is the
first letter of the Greek alphabet). There are around 30 or so alpha
testers in locations all over the U.S.A., including testers in Norway,
Brazil, the U.K., Canada, France, Denmark, and, yes, even New Jersey!
As alpha test winds down (as necessary features are added and the bug-rate
gets lower), plans will be made to go to beta test (the second phase of
testing), which will be a public release.
The primary focus of the alpha test is to test the g77 front end, since that
has most of the new code. The secondary focus of the alpha test is to test
the integration between the front end and the back end. Currently, this is
where most of the bugs seem to be. The tertiary focus is the quality of
code generated by the GNU back end.
There are no schedules regarding future events such as when beta test will
happen, when documentation will be written, and so on. The GNU Fortran
effort so far is entirely voluntary, and delays might happen due to the
need to earn income, so the best way to assure rapid delivery of a high-
quality free Fortran system is to offer donations or other forms of funding
to the author and/or the FSF.
WHAT WILL GNU FORTRAN SUPPORT? (95/01/01)
------------------------------
The quickest answer to this question is "GNU Fortran does or will soon
support any reasonably portable feature already supported by f2c used
in conjunction with gcc and the f2clib (libI77 and libF77) libraries".
Some f2c command-line options aren't supported, and might not be for
a while, including the run-time array-bounds-checking option, just
because there seem to be more important things to do first.
Right now, INTEGER*2 and related types are not supported, though
partial support (at least) is planned for 0.6, with full support
planned for a 1.0 release as funding becomes available. Other
problems include an unusually large compile-time space/time
requirement for compiling code declaring large aggregate areas
(e.g. COMMON or EQUIVALENCE with large arrays) and initializing
even a small portion of them -- this problem is targeted for
partial improvement in 0.6, and basically complete elimination in 1.0;
-g and gdb support are incomplete (for now, COMMON variables are
unavailable by name while debugging -- one must know their offsets
in the COMMON area itself, which is available by name); and
the run-time area needs work (new library, new naming conventions)
in the long term.
GNU Fortran already supports many features f2c doesn't, such as the
MIL-STD 1753 intrinsics, some Fortran-90 features like SELECT CASE
(not for CHARACTER types yet, however), no limit on the number of
continuation lines for a single statement, and so on. As development
progresses, more information will be available.
HOW TO GET F2C (last updated 94/05/23)
--------------
While waiting for GNU Fortran to become available, you might want to
use a free program called f2c, a Fortran-to-C converter whose output,
compiled by a quality C compiler (such as GNU C) and linked with the
f2c (or compatible) libraries (called F77 and L77, though they can be
stuck together, and often are, in a library called f2c), produces
an executable for the input Fortran program. It works quite well,
supports ANSI FORTRAN 77 plus some popular extensions, and bug fixes
are made to it quite rapidly in response to bug reports.
f2c is available on tape from the FSF. Get ordering info from
gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu. The latest version also is available via anonymous
ftp to various GNU sites including prep.ai.mit.edu.
I obtain the very latest version via anonymous ftp to netlib.att.com.
Then, I do "type binary", "cd /netlib/f2c", and obtain the following files,
depending on what I need:
readme.Z -- a file describing what f2c is and what to do
libf77.Z -- the (compressed shar archive) sources to the F77 (non-I/O)
run-time library
libi77.Z -- the (compressed shar archive) sources to the I77 (I/O)
run-time library
src/*.Z -- the (compressed) sources, mostly in C, to the f2c converter
itself
changes.Z -- a list of recent fixes and version/checksum stamps for sources
f2c.h.Z -- the header file needed when compiling f2c output (the C code)
Configuring and installing f2c for various machines doesn't appear to
be too difficult. There are MS-DOS executables (one using extended/
expanded memory, one not) in the msdos subdirectory; these seem to
be rebuilt fairly often from a recent f2c release.
(Netlib is widely used in the numerical computing community; for general
information on netlib, send the e-mail message "send index" to
netlib@research.att.com, netlib@ornl.gov, or netlib@nac.no. If the
netlib@research.att.com address doesn't work, try netlib@netlib.att.com.)
IMPORTANT EMAIL ADDRESSES (last updated 94/03/08)
-------------------------
fortran@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Send email here to contact the author and/or current maintainer of GNU
Fortran at the FSF.
info-gnu-fortran@prep.ai.mit.edu
The GNU Fortran Mailing List (moderated). Status info is occasionally
posted to this list regarding the alpha test, plans or questions about
g77 and Fortran in general, and so on.
info-gnu-fortran-request@prep.ai.mit.edu
Send email to this address to get added to or removed from the above
mailing list.
gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu
Send email to this address to get information on the FSF and Project GNU.
HOW TO GET THIS FILE (last updated 94/03/08)
--------------------
How to get information on GNU Fortran (the .plan file for user
fortran at Project GNU):
If you can do finger -l, try:
finger -l fortran@gate.gnu.ai.mit.edu
If that produces output of around 350 lines, then it probably works.
Otherwise, if you can do ftp, try:
ftp gate.gnu.ai.mit.edu
Username: ftp
Password: (any)
get g77.plan
The ftp copy of the file is updated every 3 hours from the live copy.
NOTE: Try gate-1.gnu.ai.mit.edu, gate-2.gnu.ai.mit.edu, or
gate-3.gnu.ai.mit.edu if you are having problems with
gate.gnu.ai.mit.edu.
Otherwise, you could try sending email to user fortran@gnu.ai.mit.edu
asking to be sent the latest copy of the file, but _please_ make this
your last option, because it requires human intervention!
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: History key?
Date: 23 Jan 1995 19:36:29 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3g10ft$2eh@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <1995Jan23.174653.16871@midway.uchicago.edu>
Chip Ach writes
> <sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> wrote:
> >In Terminal, is there a history key analagous to the up arrow
> >in VMS or Linux?
>
> Try using tcsh instead of csh...
The NeXT vanilla csh has been hacked to support a history and file
completion mechanism through the cursor keys; to enable it you need
to create a couple of files (.macros and .bindings, I think). It's
in the FAQ. For the reasons why the csh/tcsh family are not worth
salvaging, you have to go to the FAQ of comp.unix.shells. Get bash
or (better yet) the zsh, and stop programming in one shell and using
another. (If you're *programming* in the csh, get that FAQ at once!)
Albert, stop telling |=========================================================
God what to do! | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
-- Niels Bohr |=========================================================
From: jab@cldc.howard.edu (Joseph A. Blackette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Khoros 2.0 on NEXTSTEP?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 07:58:39 GMT
Organization: Howard University, Computer Learning & Design Center
Message-ID: <3g2bvf$djp@sulu.cldc.howard.edu>
Has anywone been able able to get the image processing software package,
Khoros v2.0 compiled under NS? We plan to offer it on all of our
platforms including Cray, Sun and Sgi. But I would love to give NS some
more publicity around our shop.
Joseph Blackette
jab@comserc.howard.edu
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: TeX--how to include >16 postscript files
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
Date: 25 Jan 1995 03:00:55 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <3g4et7$tmq@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <1995Jan24.230649.21927@midway.uchicago.edu>
Michael Suk-Young Chwe (chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: I use the EPSF macros for TeX on the NeXT
...and you \input epsf with every picure. Right?
: However, I
: cannot include more than 16 postscript files because of a TeX limitation on
Not TeX limitation but your buggy input. Correct this by inputing
macros once and everything will be ok.
--mj
From: dion.dock@mccaw.com (Dion Dock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: History key?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 16:16:21 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3g394l$kim@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <3g10ft$2eh@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
> > >In Terminal, is there a history key analagous to the up arrow
> > >in VMS or Linux?
What about "setenv EDITMODE vi" in the C shell to allow Korn shell style
command line editing?
--
Dion Dock Paradigm Systems
\\||//
--DOOM--
Product Delivery, Axys project. //||\\ dion.dock@mccaw.com
From: rlabelle@lamar.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Khoros 2.0 on NEXTSTEP?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 13:48:07 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g30en$21bl@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3g2bvf$djp@sulu.cldc.howard.edu>
Keywords: Khoros, Image
Joseph A. Blackette writes
<> Has anywone been able able to get the image processing software
package,
<> Khoros v2.0 compiled under NS? We plan to offer it on all of our
..
I'm also looking for NS Khoros binaries. If someone has built this
package, could you make it available via ftp?
Thanks!
Rob LaBelle
(I'm running NS 3.2 dev, 3.3 user on black hardware, using Mouse-X)
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can NS3.3 be installed on an '030 cube?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 13:56:24 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3g30u8$h4s@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Basically, can an old cube hurdle all the way up the
upgrade path? If not, what is the last version of the
OS that will work?
Thanks much - Jon
--
Jon Haveman
Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: where can I find sox for NS/I
Date: 24 Jan 1995 10:59:26 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3g384u$62j@panix.com>
Subject says it all.
Thanks in advance.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: joerg@ite.rwth-aachen.de (Joerg Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ATARI emulator for black?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 16:09:20 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
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Hi freaks,
is there anybody who (pre)released an Emulator for the ATARI ST Software
running on black hardware like DAYDREAM for the MAC?
greetings from germany
Joerg
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From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: RE: Advice needed on NS platform purchase
Message-ID: <D2v9yA.3w0@pages.com>
Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
References: <950122140443.9206AACUI.malc@white>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 16:32:33 GMT
In article <950122140443.9206AACUI.malc@white> mmalcolm Crawford
<m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
>
> It's possble that Pages might also meet your requirements, but
> I'm not sure if the design models provided will satisfy any
> publishers, and am not sure if it has the level of crossreferencing
> etc. available from FrameMaker (anyone else have experience of
> this?).
>
Well, I do. :-) Pages was not intended for book publshing; Frame already
had the long tech-doc market filled, and we saw no reason to go
head-to-head with them for what under NEXTSTEP is a miniscule niche (which
is why Frame abandoned NEXTSTEP for a while). We have a long list of
features that were not in release 1.0 of Pages; each successive release
adds features from that list based on actual demand from paying customers.
Few of those have to do with book/tech-doc production.
Having said all that, I will note that I wrote all drafts of my latest
book using Pages and the Documents design model. When it came time for
final copy editing and production, I exported the chapters as ASCII files,
and the production editor used Quark to lay out the book--but he designed
it based on my layout using Pages, which he said not only made his job a
lot easier, but made his page count estimates quite accurate.
The book? _Pitfalls of Object-Oriented Development_ from MIS Press. :-)
..bruce..
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From: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of SLIP vs. PPP for slab?
Message-ID: <D2wBuI.MM@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems, Inc.
References: <1995Jan22.121459.15089@proximus.north.de>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 06:11:06 GMT
Gerhard Moeller writes
> Can ppp do dial-on-demand?
Morningstar PPP can.
> Even better, would it be possible to configure it that only some users
> are allowed to do so, maybe even only at certain times?
MST PPP has a bunch of authority and other config files.
They look pretty flexible.
I don't know whether this particular check is possible.
> Can it be done that ppp tries several different numbers and configures
> itself to different IPs?
yes
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@genoa.com NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail accepted
From: shess@icicle.winternet.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Is this true, NeXT copy protection of NS?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 18:44:23 GMT
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Distribution: world
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References: <3g129t$ig2@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In-reply-to: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 23 Jan 1995 15:07:25 -0500
In article <3g129t$ig2@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>Someone (sorry I forgot who) sent me email with this explanation
>for why BuildDisk 3.3 doesnt work (BTW, I still dont have an answer
>if the only problem is the one link, it seems to work otherwise).
>
>if I remember correctly, the manual of the 3.3 upgrade said that
>the BuildDisk.app will not work correctly in 3.3. I think they
>are not going to fix this because this keeps the people from
>copying NeXTStep illegally. You definitely seem to need the CDs
>to install NeXTStep.
>
>I know that they say its broken, but to NOT fix it for copy
>protection reasons is really dense?
Hmm. Before we all run off half-cocked, let's have some concrete
data? You appear to be basing this copy protection theory on your
own statement "I think they are not going to fix this". You've
presented no evidence for this statement. Perhaps, as is traditional
with programming, the bugs found their own way in and the programmers
didn't intend to put them there.
I think at least _some_ benefit of the doubt is in order, here,
--
scott hess <shess@winternet.com> (WWW to "http://www.winternet.com/~shess/")
Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208
Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108E, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332
<?If you haven't the time to design, where will you find the time to debug?>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Wanted: really simple app to combat RSI
Message-ID: <thompsonD2wA1u.6JE@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 05:32:17 GMT
I'm fairly sure this doesn't exist, please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'd like to see an app that pops up a reminder panel every X minutes
which tells me to take a break from typing. In a perfect world it
would also:
- allow the time between breaks to be adjusted via a preferences panel
- optionally lock the screen during the break for X minutes (again, set
X in the preferences panel)
- have a customizable reminder message (mine would say "take a break
from typing" but there may be other uses)
That's it! Anyone want to whip it together in a couple minutes? ;)
From: kent@ne.kth.se (Kent Ekstrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to find TeXice?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 09:25:51 GMT
Distribution: world
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Where to find TeXice?
Due to a major delete of all TeX files, caused by lack of disc space, I of
course removed TeXice. Many other TeX tools are easily found on either
CD's or ftp-sites, but not TeXice. Does anyone know where to find it?
What I m really looking for is a free equation editor, which generates
postscript output, and I believe that TeXedit together with TeXice is the
second easiest way to make equations compared to use a "real" equation
editor. I don't want to pay for an equation editor, and if I wanted to do
that it would be easy to install Digital Tool Works EquationBuilder and
pay them some money (or use their frustrating 2 minutes demo option).
Conclusion:
- Where to find TeXice? OR even better,
- Where to find a free real equation editor?
Hardware? BLACK, of course!!! (No offense, PC users)
Thanks / Kent
____________________________________________________________________
Kent Ekstrom <kent@ne.kth.se>
Royal Institute of Technology
Nuclear Power Safety
100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: TeX--how to include >16 postscript files
Message-ID: <1995Jan24.230649.21927@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 23:06:49 GMT
I use the EPSF macros for TeX on the NeXT to put postscript files (diagrams and
pictures) into my TeX document (using \epsfbox{\picfilename}). However, I
cannot include more than 16 postscript files because of a TeX limitation on
\read (a maximum of 16 files can be opened at once). I need to include over 30
postscript files in my document. I currently have to use two separate TeX
source files to get around this. Any ideas?
Suggestions very much appreciated. Please email to chwe@uchicago.edu instead
of (or in addition to) reposting.
Thanks in advance,
Michael Chwe
Michael Suk-Young Chwe chwe@uchicago.edu (NeXTMail OK)
__|__ | / _| ( ) Economics Department, University of Chicago
/ \ | /\__| __|_|__ 1126 E 59th Street, Chicago, IL 60637 USA
__|__ | / ( ) Facsimile 312-702-8490
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Is this true, NeXT copy protection of NS?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 20:42:27 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
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References: <3g129t$ig2@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <SHESS.95Jan24124424@icicle.winternet.com>
shess@icicle.winternet.com (Scott Hess) writes:
> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>>Someone (sorry I forgot who) sent me email with this explanation
>>for why BuildDisk 3.3 doesnt work (BTW, I still dont have an answer
>>if the only problem is the one link, it seems to work otherwise).
>Hmm. Before we all run off half-cocked, let's have some concrete
>data? You appear to be basing this copy protection theory on your
>own statement "I think they are not going to fix this". You've
Its not my own statement, someone sent me email to this effect. But since
then I have received information contrary to this falicious 'copy protection'
theory. Im sorry if I caused any confusion, I was just voicing my concerns
based on poor information given to me.
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Sorting incoming mail
In-Reply-To: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu's message of 23 Jan 1995 23:15:23 GMT
To: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.95Jan24002052@freedom.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <3f0ln0$akr@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> <3g1dab$lrv@bunyan.covenant.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 05:20:52 GMT
In article <3g1dab$lrv@bunyan.covenant.edu> petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes:
Funny, I only set up procmail to direct my incoming mail from various
lists to the directories that function as the Next mailboxes. This seems
to work fine. What is the function of appnmail? Would this have to do with
NeXTMail?
In most regards what you do works fine. But there are a few problems.
Just appending messages to a mbox file doesn't update the
table_of_contents. Luckily Mail.app notices this when it opens the
mailbox next time and regenerates the table_of_contents. However in a
large mailbox that may take a while. It also loses all information
about which messages were read, unread or deleted. In addition, for
NeXTmail just appending to the mbox doesn't do the right thing. Also
note that appending to a mailbox which you have open in Mail.app
(which may easily happen) can result in the loss of messages. Using
appnmail prevents all that.
Carl Edman
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 14:46:22 GMT
Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g33ru$8ll@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
References: <D2v7KB.A3s@clive>
Keywords: NT NeXTSTEP
Printing from NT 3.5 to a NeXT print is (relatively) a breeze, and doesn't
require Samba, since NT includes an lpr client that supports printing to UNIX
printers. The only weird thing with the lpr client and NT's printer manager is
that it only supports uppercase print queue names. With
NextApps/PrinterManager, create a new printer where the name in all upper case,
and then point NT to that print queue and you should be printing from all your
Windows(tm) apps without a problem.
Hope this helps
Tim
In article <D2v7KB.A3s@clive> dcode@cyclesoft.com (Paul Marcos) writes:
> In article <3g036t$23q@xexos.xexos.com> paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
> writes:
> > In article <SAMURAI.95Jan20111731@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
> > samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
> > I don't suppose you've managed to get the printing working, ie. printing
> > from an NT machine to a NeXT printer, a working smb.conf for this would
> be
> > greatly appreciated if anyone has one..
> That's a known problem in the current version. Supposedly a fix is
> imminent.
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 20:27:36 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Distribution: world
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References: <1995Jan24.135424.19031@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
In article <1995Jan24.135424.19031@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
> In article <3g07s2$bch@columba.udac.uu.se>, peter@calypso (Peter Trygg)
writes:
> Actually, Absoft told me some months ago that they do not plan
> any upgrades to Motorola or Intel NeXTstep Fortran, either
> though they still sell them.
>
> This is really a terrible situation - there are millions of lines
> of Fortran code out there - some of which we NeXTstep users have
> written. For scientific users, Fortran support on NeXTstep
> is critical.
>
> Tom Herbert
> University of Miami
Maybe when the port to Sparc is completed someone will do a Fortran port
for the Sun architecture at least. There might be a larger potential set
of customers on Sparc who are scientific users than on HP. On the other
hand they may all be Wall St. types. Actually some of the wall st. types
might actually use FORTRAN for some of their financial modeling.
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 95 15:42:12 CST
From: idpt633@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_user)
Message-ID: <9501250742.AA08436@tpts1.seed.net.tw>
Subject: Edit.app and its Find Panel
Hi,
My Find panel in Edit.app suddenly would not appear after "command-f".
Has anyone experienced the same situation before?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Jackson Technologies
Jamie Lien
From: bjmohr@athena.mit.edu (Brent J Mohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software emulation -is SoftPC worth the $$?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 11:39:14 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BJMOHR.95Jan24063914@primavera.mit.edu>
I'm intrested in SoftPC as a gateway to runing CD-ROMs which require
windows, but have a few questions. Can anyone tell me about the
approx. speed which insignia's latest version for blackhardware
(v.3.0) run? I'd also like to know if anyone has installed windows on
version 2.05 of SoftPC.
Any comments on the above product would be appreciated.
-Brent
bjmohr@athena.mit.edu
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Message-ID: <1995Jan24.135424.19031@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 24 Jan 95 13:54:24 EST
References: <3frrl5$2ohu@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3fs33s$gqe@redstone.interpath.net> <3g07s2$bch@columba.udac.uu.se>
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
In article <3g07s2$bch@columba.udac.uu.se>, peter@calypso (Peter Trygg) writes:
> Dave Briggman (dave@borg.paradigm-shift.com) wrote:
> : Has anyone tried Absoft's Fortran 77, Absoft Corp. 313-853-0050, or, try
> : fortran@absoft.com
>
> : Dave
>
> Yep, I did and this is the reply i got:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> We have no plans to develop a HPPA version of our F77 for NEXTSTEP.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Wood Lotz
>
> So, the only FORTRAN there is is f2c and even if it is good
> it is still not enough for our needs.
>
> Peter
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Peter Trygg peter@rhea.teorfys.uu.se
> Department of Theoretical Physics
> Uppsala University
> -------------------------------------------------------------
Actually, Absoft told me some months ago that they do not plan
any upgrades to Motorola or Intel NeXTstep Fortran, either
though they still sell them.
This is really a terrible situation - there are millions of lines
of Fortran code out there - some of which we NeXTstep users have
written. For scientific users, Fortran support on NeXTstep
is critical.
Tom Herbert
University of Miami
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can NS3.3 be installed on an '030 cube?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 19:46:52 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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References: <3g30u8$h4s@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <3g30u8$h4s@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon
Haveman) writes:
> Basically, can an old cube hurdle all the way up the
> upgrade path?
Yes.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: really simple app to combat RSI
Date: 24 Jan 1995 11:51:35 -0600
Organization: Otherwise
Message-ID: <3g3en7$efm@lia.bga.com>
References: <thompsonD2wA1u.6JE@netcom.com>
In article <thompsonD2wA1u.6JE@netcom.com>,
Eric Thompson <thompson@netcom.com> wrote:
>I'm fairly sure this doesn't exist, please correct me if I'm wrong.
>I'd like to see an app that pops up a reminder panel every X minutes
>which tells me to take a break from typing. In a perfect world it
>would also:
>
> - allow the time between breaks to be adjusted via a preferences panel
> - optionally lock the screen during the break for X minutes (again, set
> X in the preferences panel)
> - have a customizable reminder message (mine would say "take a break
> from typing" but there may be other uses)
>
>That's it! Anyone want to whip it together in a couple minutes? ;)
Rather than just a reminder every N minutes, what you really want is
an app that watches your keystrokes and mouse motion. Only if you
have been going at it heavily for N minutes do you want it to post the
reminder. This should be pretty easy to do by overriding some
postscript operators in the system and next dicts. I have thought
about doing this before, but I don't think I can find the time anytime
soon -- unless someone wants to commission it for $$$ :-).
Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines
Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world.
bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands
(NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
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From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: Modem for Next
In-Reply-To: Rudi Stouffs's message of Mon, 23 Jan 1995 18:11:24 -0500
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Jan24113543@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
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References: <Mj93SQO00iV0M_MFMC@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 16:35:43 GMT
>>>>> "Rudi" == Rudi Stouffs <rstouffs+@CMU.EDU> writes:
Rudi> I have a few basic questions. I have a Nextcube running
Rudi> Nextstep 2.1 in my office that I would like to take
Rudi> home. The only way I'll be able to transfer files between my
Rudi> Next and other computers will be through the network. Thus
Rudi> I'll by myself a modem, but I'm afraid this is not the end.
Rudi> I understand that just with a modem I could only use this
Rudi> Next as a dummy terminal. That, in order to use my Next as
Rudi> I have until now, ftping files back and forth (or something
Rudi> like that) I may need something like SLIP. Now I have never
Rudi> dealt with a modem sofar and I don't really know know much
Rudi> about it. My question is, exactly what would I need and
Rudi> what is available for the Next that I could run under NS2.1
Rudi> Of course, I could upgrade NS if necessary, but I would like
Rudi> to keep everything as cheap as possible. If there's any
Rudi> information missing here, please send me e-mail and ask for
Rudi> it. I would really appreciate it if I could get some help
Rudi> with this. Thanks a lot,
Rudi> -Rudi Stouffs
For the modem, any external modem should work. If you want to use the
fax capabilities of some modems you have to be more careful. I will
not address this last question here but if you need more info tell me.
The best choice would be a Zyxel 1496E but it's not cheap. A USRobotics
would be much cheaper (but no fax on NS for this one). I have a
SupraFax 144LC and it works very well (but no fax in NS).
For the sofware issue now. If you only need to transfer files you
should consider doing this with kermit (a Public Domain communication
program). It's much faster than SLIP and easyer to configure. But if
you want to sacrifice some speed to have much more power (do everything
you could do when you NeXT was on the net: Mail, News, WWW,...) then
you can also do it with NeXTSTEP 2.1 for free. You can get the
program Transys DialUPIP. Here are the coordinates:
ftp.cs.orst.edu
software/NeXT/binaries/comm/SLIP_920904-A.*
If you upgrade to 3.2 then you should consider instead Transys PNI 1.13
available in the same directory. There is also a ppp implementation there.
Hope this helps,
Francois Magnan
--
______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 21:58:51 GMT
Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Message-ID: <3g3t6r$smt@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
References: <3fgr6j$2aod@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <3fgr6j$2aod@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) writes:
>
> 6 months or so ago, the latest was that Absoft had not
> made up their minds about a ns/hppa fortran port. not
> sure on the status of other compiler companies. gregg,
> do you know the latest?
>
> for many of us, f2c simply will not work.
>
> a fortran compiler is the last thing my group needs to
> unshackle us from hpux dependency. ... and the remote
> control...
>
> kelley wittmeyer
> dept of atmospheric science
> colorado state university
>
I still have the list that I compiled, but I have not
received any new names lately. Also, I have not heard
anything from Absoft or the other two companies (NAG
and DIAB Data, I think) for many months.
If anyone who has not already written to me is interested
in Fortran for NS/HP, then please send me your name,
affiliation, email address, and phone number (as well as
an estimate of how many copies you might want for the
right price). Thanks,
Gregg Dinse
919-541-4931
dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Samba on a NeXT box ??
Date: 25 Jan 1995 10:32:54 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3g59cm$2ll@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Has anyone got the latest version of Samba (1.9.02) working on a NeXT
box - especially using it as a print server to a NeXT 400DPI laser
printer ?
If anybody out there has got any version of Samba working with a NeXT
printer I would be very very interested in how they managed it as I
have failed miserably at getting it to work.
Cheers Rupert.
E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing from Nec CD/SCSI card
Message-ID: <1995Jan24.000735.1@zeus>
From: itsmrwk@zeus.syscon.com (Gregory J. Donaldson)
Date: 24 Jan 95 00:07:35 EST
I am trying to install NeXTstep 3.2 on a GW2K P5-90 with 32mb of memory,
2 540md IDE disks, and a NEC 3xe CD-ROM/NEC SCSI card. My problem is that
I don't have a driver for the SCSI card. Where can I get this driver? I
have the driver needed and use the CD-ROM under Windows.
Ron
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From: dwilson@news.enet.net (Dan Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXT - GAMES
Date: 24 Jan 1995 17:43:28 -0700
Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona
Message-ID: <3g46rg$ki2@pinyon.enet.net>
Are there any games that can be played on the Next Version 3.0 ?? if so,
wheere could I get them from.
Thanks for the info..
You could call me at (800) 352-4909 pr E- Mail me at
dwilson@enet.net
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NetWare
Date: 24 Jan 1995 23:23:20 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3g4258$654@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Hello,
Since I've upgraded to 3.3 I can't see files on any Netware
servers at my site but I can print. Also Netware disconnects from any
server I'm on fairly quickly, thus I must constantly log in to the server
to print. Can someone point me to a resolution of this problem. For the
machines on my net that are still running 3.2, Netware works is fine.
Thank you!
Alan
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 24 Jan 1995 23:36:52 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g42uk$301r@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3g3nro$h2q@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
In article <3g3nro$h2q@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark
Powell) writes:
> In article <1995Jan24.135424.19031@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
> therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
> > In article <3g07s2$bch@columba.udac.uu.se>, peter@calypso (Peter Trygg)
> writes:
> > Actually, Absoft told me some months ago that they do not plan
> > any upgrades to Motorola or Intel NeXTstep Fortran, either
> > though they still sell them.
> >
> > This is really a terrible situation - there are millions of lines
> > of Fortran code out there - some of which we NeXTstep users have
> > written. For scientific users, Fortran support on NeXTstep
> > is critical.
> >
> > Tom Herbert
> > University of Miami
>
> Maybe when the port to Sparc is completed someone will do a Fortran port
> for the Sun architecture at least. There might be a larger potential set
> of customers on Sparc who are scientific users than on HP. On the other
> hand they may all be Wall St. types. Actually some of the wall st. types
> might actually use FORTRAN for some of their financial modeling.
> --
> Dr. Mark D. Powell
> Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
> NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
> Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
With OpenStep on Sparc, you should be able to use the standard Solaris compiler
-- a "special" NEXTSTEP compiler would not be needed.
The same would be true on HP, if we had OpenStep on top of HP-UX.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: Khoros 2.0 on NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.072140.5840@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <3g30en$21bl@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 07:21:40 GMT
In article <3g30en$21bl@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
rlabelle@lamar.colostate.edu writes:
> Joseph A. Blackette writes
> <> Has anywone been able able to get the image processing software
> package,
> <> Khoros v2.0 compiled under NS? We plan to offer it on all of our
> ..
>
> I'm also looking for NS Khoros binaries. If someone has built this
> package, could you make it available via ftp?
Try these for old versions of Khoros compiled for NeXT
1)georgetown.nrl.navy.mil:/pub/NeXT_stuff/Khoros
yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil is man who compiled it (John Michopoulos)
2)calvin.stanford.edu:/NeXT/Khoros
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: Re: TeX--how to include >16 postscript files
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.185520.12076@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
References: <3g4et7$tmq@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 18:55:20 GMT
In article <3g4et7$tmq@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca
(Michal Jaegermann) writes:
> Michael Suk-Young Chwe (chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu) wrote:
> : I use the EPSF macros for TeX on the NeXT
>
> ....and you \input epsf with every picure. Right?
>
> : However, I
> : cannot include more than 16 postscript files because of a TeX limitation on
>
> Not TeX limitation but your buggy input. Correct this by inputing
> macros once and everything will be ok.
>
This was indeed the problem. If you use Instant TeX's convenient cut-and-paste
method of dropping in postscript files, then you might get this problem. All
you have to do is "Edit Picture Macro.." under the Tools menu.
Thanks for everyone who responded!
--
Michael Suk-Young Chwe chwe@uchicago.edu (NeXTMail OK)
__|__ | / _| ( ) Economics Department, University of Chicago
/ \ | /\__| __|_|__ 1126 E 59th Street, Chicago, IL 60637 USA
__|__ | / ( ) Facsimile 312-702-8490
From: steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve Spicklemire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Image processing system...
Date: 25 Jan 1995 05:37:11 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9501251136.AA03898@estel.uindy.edu>
Hi All,
I have an opportunity to recommend a system for developing new
software for an image processing application. I'm not talking
about another PhotoShop.... the problem is more like: how do you
batch process 1500 tiffs, doing math (background subtraction,
gain masking), image processing (cropping, panning, zooming,
color correction), and (possibly) Other Neat Stuff (tm), without
losing track of where everything is, and what is happening, and
make it a pleasant experience for the poor slob at the controls.
In my view.. it sounds like a job for NEXTSTEP! ('specially that
last part :->) So..... what I'd like to know is: what's the best
current choice for hardware for this application? What's a good
choice for software to help? (e.g., I'm thinking for pbmplus as
a starting point, to get things going.. and then perhaps custom
stuff from there.. depending on the needs of the system....) Is
the HP hardware all it's cracked up to be? Would Intel be better?
thanks for any opinions!
-steve
--------------------------< cut here >----------------------------
Steve Spicklemire (317) 788-3313 steve@estel.uindy.edu
Dept of Physics and Earth-Space Science NeXTmail Welcome!
University of Indianapolis
1400 East Hanna Avenue, Indpls. IN, 46227
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero)
Subject: Re: Need vt100 telnet emulation
Message-ID: <D2xyDy.HIB@zion.com>
Sender: david@zion.com (David J. Ferrero)
Organization: Zion Software & Consulting
References: <1995Jan22.002555.2952@weston.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 03:15:33 GMT
Zion offers two products which might fit your interest.
TeleComm 1.2 - emulation and modem software for NEXTSTEP.
Function keys mapped to the keypad.
ZionDECView - VT102/VT100/ANSI and VT220 soon emulation IB Palette for
custom apps needing terminal emulation support.
Function keys may be added as needed.
Send email to: telecomm@zion.com or palette@zion.com for more info.
Regards,
David Ferrero
david@zion.com
In article <1995Jan22.002555.2952@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes
Spears) writes:
> Can anyone give advie for good vt100 emulation via telnet which supports
> the function keys?
>
> THanks
> Wes
> --
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> jspears@weston.com | MIME MAil Welcome
> The Weston Group |
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From: ppregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Pregler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP: Mail.App 3.0 offline mailgrepping?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 25 Jan 1995 13:25:28 GMT
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Message-ID: <3g5jg8$n00@alijku06.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
Hi all,
I should set up Mail.App on a NeXT (running 3.0) in a way that a
secretary can read the mails of her boss too. I am no NeXT-expert and
this thing has practically no real documentation. So the easiest
solution for me seemed to be the following setup: They share the
Active.mbox (I assume/hope Mail.App does some locking for it). Only
problem is that new mail will be included only by the Mail.App of the
boss, i.e. the secretary can only handle old mails. Is there any way to
start the MailFetch-program that seems to be part of Mail.App from the
command line? I found no documentation on this and if I just try it out
it simply doesn't find an obscure port to connect to. Of cause, any
other ideas are welcome too :-).
-Peter.
-------------------------------
Sprache ist ein System von konventionellen Zeichen,
die jederzeit willkuerlich erzeugt werden koennen -- Ebbinghaus.
-------------------------------
Email: Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at
Peter Pregler / RISC, University of Linz, Austria
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: erik@rat.se (Erik Heimdahl)
Subject: Flat-file database needed.
Message-ID: <D2yKFL.4FC@rat.se>
Sender: erik@rat.se (Erik Heimdahl)
Organization: Research & Trade, AB.
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 11:05:47 GMT
Anyone know about a (preferably public domain or share-ware) flat-file database (or something
simpler like FileMaker on the Macintosh). I need it quite bad.
/erik
--
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Software Developer @ Research & Trade | is a man without fear."
Internet: erik@rat.se <NeXTmail, MIME> |
Tel: +46 8 21 17 50 | - Frank Miller
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Samba on a NeXT box ??
Date: 25 Jan 1995 16:18:00 GMT
Organization: Filtronix Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g5tjo$8t@filtronix.eunet.be>
References: <3g59cm$2ll@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
In article <3g59cm$2ll@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert
Hollom) writes:
> Has anyone got the latest version of Samba (1.9.02) working on a NeXT
> box - especially using it as a print server to a NeXT 400DPI laser
> printer ?
I have samba 1.8.05 running fine on NS 3.3 and connecting to Windows 95.
I'll first grab 1.9.02 (or later) and see if it still works ...
Filip
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From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where can I find sox for NS/I
Date: 25 Jan 1995 12:34:50 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3g623q$45t@panix.com>
References: <3g384u$62j@panix.com> <950125142749.948AACUG.malc@white>
In <950125142749.948AACUG.malc@white> mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
>Best to use GISO.app, a NEXTSTEP front-end to sox, available from
> ftp://cs.orst.edu/pub/next
>somewhere...
Ummmm....last I checked, GISO didn't come with an NS/I
binary of sox. Have things changed? Am I just blind?
It was in the attempt to use GISO that I came to need
sox.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: rsmallwo@islandnet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Low-end SQL Database for EOF??
Date: 25 Jan 1995 18:29:52 GMT
Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada 604-477-5163
Message-ID: <3g65b0$1i5@island.amtsgi.bc.ca>
I want to take some time to investigate EOF 1.0 but presently do not have
a SQL database to use with it. At this time as I am only investigating, I
am looking for a temporary, cheap solution. One that I thought I had was
IXAdaptor (by VNP), a $245 SQL imitation using the indexing kit with an
EOF adaptor promised in a brochure from NEXT EXPO. In a recent call to
them, I discovered they are not currently selling the software and that
they may eventually come up with an EOF version. This doesn't do much for
my immediate need. The other solution is QUICKBASE, which sells at $895.
I know they have an EO adaptor. This solution seems to me too expensive
for just investigating EOF, but might be appropriate if I go forward to
develop some apps with EOF. Can anyone suggest any other solutions?
Thanks in advance.
Rhys Smallwood
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Samba on a NeXT box ??
Date: 25 Jan 1995 20:25:33 GMT
Organization: Filtronix Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g6c3t$in@filtronix.eunet.be>
References: <3g5tjo$8t@filtronix.eunet.be>
In article <3g5tjo$8t@filtronix.eunet.be> filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip
Lingier) writes:
>> Has anyone got the latest version of Samba (1.9.02) working on a NeXT
>> box - especially using it as a print server to a NeXT 400DPI laser
>> printer ?
> I have samba 1.8.05 running fine on NS 3.3 and connecting to Windows
> 95. I'll first grab 1.9.02 (or later) and see if it still works ...
I grabbed the 1.9.02 and it compiled with the 3.2+ settings in the
Makefile on a 3.3 (white). It took my old config file and works as
expected...
Filip
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From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Re: Espresso
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.150027.21673@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907)
References: <D2o2Ks.JIz@nols.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 15:00:27 GMT
In article <D2o2Ks.JIz@nols.edu> bz@nols.edu (Bill zell) writes:
> Anyone out there using Espresso ( a developer environment)? We are
> having trouble loading Espresso into Interface Builder (3.3). ANy
> ideas?
>
> thanks bill zell (bz@nols.edu)
Isn't it completely broken in 3.3. I thought PSI was going to come out
with an upgrade supporting EOF/3.3 and some other jazz. But, I have not
heard from them. I liked their product. Has anyone talked to them??
---
Sincerely,
Neil Greene
---------------
benchMark Developments, Inc.
11970 Charter Oak Parkway, St Louis MO 63146
Phone: 314-872-2907 / 800-872-3131
Email: Neil@bMD.com [NeXT/Mime mail accepted]
From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP! Getting PNI SLIP to work...
Date: 25 Jan 1995 18:39:26 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g65su$1aho@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Well it's time to enter the wonderful world of getting my box at home on the
net. About time actually.....anyway I am in need of a bit of assistance as
I must completely admit, I don't have much of an idea as to what I'm doing
besides consuming plenty of aspirin.
Setup
486 - 66 Running 3.3
TransSys PNI SLIP v1.11
Problem 1: The PNI Daemon dies at bootup
Hmmm just was reading the docs and I think I figured that part out .. shall have
to wait till this evening to try it...
Anyway Problem 2:
How does one configure sendmail to use PNI SLIP?
From what I gather in the documentation, one should stay away from using
HostManager and the like.....or do I just need to define mailhost
like the NeXTAdmin docs indicate and go from there?
I guess I'm rather confused!
Thanks in advance!
--
Hakuna Matata!
Tom
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From: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP! Getting PNI SLIP to work...
Date: 25 Jan 1995 18:42:08 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g6620$1aho@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
References: <3g65su$1aho@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
O and one more thing.... if anybody has a dialup script for an Intel or
Supra modem I'd certainly be most thankful if you'd be able to share it!
Thanks!
--
Hakuna Matata!
Tom
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From: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail Question
Date: 25 Jan 1995 22:43:41 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3g6k6t$g73@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
I am running NS 3.2 (white) and am using Mail Release 3.2 (vers 100).
Any mail that I send must first go through a single user gateway on
our campus. I would like to know if anyone knows what happens when
the gateway is busy, such that I do not get logged into the gateway
on the first attempt to send mail. I have been told that the mail
then waits for some period of time before trying to log back into the
gateway (I was told that it is typically 3 hours before my system
tries to log into the gateway). I would like to change this waiting
period (try sending the mail every five minutes or so). It is not
uncommon for me to have intercampus messages take eight to ten hours
to arrive. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Darryl
darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXT - GAMES
Date: 26 Jan 1995 10:37:30 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g7u1a$1jk@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3g46rg$ki2@pinyon.enet.net>
In article <3g46rg$ki2@pinyon.enet.net> dwilson@news.enet.net (Dan Wilson)
writes:
>
> Are there any games that can be played on the Next Version 3.0 ?? if
so,
> wheere could I get them from.
>
> Thanks for the info..
>
> You could call me at (800) 352-4909 pr E- Mail me at
> dwilson@enet.net
>
ftp to
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
and search through
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Games
availible at ftp.orst.edu (I believe)
Doom 1.2 (Shareware) - must explain?
Ciao
--
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______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
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From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Port of NS for Alpha?
Date: 26 Jan 1995 11:19:52 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3g80go$8af@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3ervt3$6vh@destiny.itsnet.com>
Keywords: Step, Alpha, DEC
Carl Payne writes
> This has probably already come and gone, but I just heard a rumor today
> that there *may* be consideration of porting NS to the DEC Alpha. Can
> anybody comment on whether this is a reality or not?
>
> In case anyone from Digital is listening, I'd drop my socks to buy
> an Alpha if NS were available for it...
Internet Operations Director, ITS
> cpayne@itsnet.com <--NeXTmail OK
It's not just rumour. DEC and NeXT made an announcement late last year that
DEC is going to port NeXTSTEP to the Alpha Chip. That's a fact. (
It's just - I wouldn't be too crazy about that: First, this may take quite a
while, for it looks like DEC wants to do the port alone and to their own Mach
kernel (that's already part of DEC OSF/1.3). And given my experience with DEC
software, I have my doubts.
Second: It's still not *that* sure that DEC may survive ...
But You're right : Imagine NS on a 150MHz Alpha Machine .... B-))
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From: shon@WordPerfect.com (Shon Vella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: rlogin problems
Date: 25 Jan 1995 23:12:51 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc
Message-ID: <3g6ltj$4gm@volcane.wordperfect.com>
I'm unable to rlogin or telnet into my NeXT running 3.2, and so far I've
not been able to figure out why. When I try it lets me enter the password
and appears to validate it ok and I get the 'Last login ...' message,
but then I get a 'Connection closed' message. This only seems to happen
when csh is the default shell, and it doesn't appear to me that it is even
getting as far as the executing .cshrc. I probably have changed
something or deleted something that I shouldn't have but I haven't
a clue what it could be. Anybody have any ideas?
Shon Vella
Novell, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dstorey@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Daryl Storey)
Subject: Doom for NeXTSTEP 3.0?
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.213746.22720@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 95 21:37:46 GMT
Has anyone seen binaries for Doom for NeXTSTEP 3.0? Thanks
Daryl Storey
dstorey@malahat.library.uvic.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: FrameMaker keyboard mapping, HELP !
Message-ID: <D2z2qE.33G@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 17:47:01 GMT
After trying to modify the kbmap file in FrameMaker 3.2 on an Intel
machine, I'm desperate enough to post this :
I am on a Swiss French keyboard :
to print out a " " (circumflex) on a character, Frame apparently needs you
to type "esc" followed by " " followed by the character you want the
circumflex on.
Now, the problem is that Frame needs the " " with code 0x5e.
Unfortunately, the standard setting for the circumflex on a Swiss keyboard
is code "0xc3" (the key on the left of the backspace key).
If in a "normal" NEXTSTEP app, you type the circumflex, it will only
appear AFTER you type the character you want the circumflex on.
Even if this feature is not possible in Frame, how can I make frame
understand the Esc sequence with the 0xc3 circumflex instead of the 0x5e
circumflex ? This is not the only keyboard mapping problem in Frame (grave
on a "u" for example ???).
Therefore, could someone at omni maybe post an explanation on how to
change key mappings for international users in Frame ? (or put on a server
somewhere a corrected mapping file for the Swiss French keyboard)...
Thank you in advance for your help !
Alexander Lamb
Expert Quantitative Trading
Geneva / Switzerland
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: App problems and suffixes file
Date: 24 Jan 95 12:05:02
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <tm8025a.95Jan241252@newssrv>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
I already posted something to this effect on comp.next.sysadmin but got no replies. Maybe a wider distribution can help.
I am no longer seeing the suffixes file work in the .NeXT directory in my home space. Programs like Opener, Omniweb and OmniImage no longer work with files of a certain suffix. If I have a .gz file double clicking it no longer starts up Opener and uncompresses the file. Same with things like a .html file or .gif.
Certain programs like WordPerfect, that I have used for awhile, do work but not the new ones. I have even added manually certain suffixes lines from an other account to no avail. I know this is local to my account and I have looked in the tools inspector to try and set the default app. I only see Edit and Terminal depending on the execute bit.
Any help would be great. I can still go to open in a lot of the programs but I would like all the functional features I can get.
Torrey McMahon
E-mail would be great but I'll take any help I get.
tm8025a@american.edu
tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Optica from Wolfram Research
Date: 25 Jan 1995 09:12:08 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3g5po8$ad8@cobber.cord.edu>
I recently read in either PCWorld or InfoWorld that Wolfram Research has
released Optica for all Mathematica platforms. It is software for designing
optical systems. It also provides raytracing.
Is anyone using this? I personally would like to use it for lighting in
CAD graphics using lots of prisms, lenses, gratings etc. Would this suite
my purpose? Also, I'd really like to know what kind of file formats it can
read and write.
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From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: where can I find sox for NS/I
Message-ID: <D2yMzy.HJ@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <3g384u$62j@panix.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 12:07:09 GMT
In article <3g384u$62j@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
writes:
On ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de you can find
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/audio-apps/GISO.3.2.NI.b.tar.gz (or a
newer version). GISO is a NeXTstep-frontend for sox (which is
included). These are the binaries, you can get the sources, too.
Michael
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From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: calendar program for NS/HPPA???
Date: 25 Jan 1995 15:25:47 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3g5qhr$2e8a@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
hi.
anyone know of a caldendar program like daytripper or
cassandra that is triple fat?
daytripper was put out by MIDIapolis systems (stained glass sw before
them) but i can't get ahold of them. anyone else had luck?
thanks!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Funnt effects with SLIP
Date: 26 Jan 1995 07:09:26 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <3g7hr7$l48@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
Well, after a little struggle I got PNI 1.13 to work on my home slab.
There are a couple of funny observations I made, and I wonder if anyone
could shed some light here:
1) Whenever the print panel comes up with the SLIP line up, it takes much
longer than with the line down; I also see the lights on the modem flash.
Why? I even managed to crash the printer daemon by bringing down the
link while bringing up the print panel!
2) When I ftp from home to work (NeXT -> Xyplex -> HP720 (HP-UX)
(unfortunately) I get a throughput reported by ftp of 1550-1600
bytes/sec, which looks very reasonable. On the way back, though,
I only get 1150-1200 bytes/sec (all on .gz files). MTU=1500, no
cslip. Are there twidllable parameters to tweak?
Waiting for enlightenment,
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar program for NS/HPPA???
Date: 26 Jan 1995 14:29:04 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3g8bjg$ddr@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <3g5qhr$2e8a@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <3g5qhr$2e8a@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) writes:
> hi.
>
> anyone know of a caldendar program like daytripper or
> cassandra that is triple fat?
>
> colorado state university
We just got PencilMeIn, its triple fat and it works great as a group
scheduler/Calender App. Contact Sarrus S/w: tammy@sarrus.com
--
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Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: gj@irock.com ("G. J.")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Edit.app and its Find Panel
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 22:43:19 -0800
Organization: iRock.Communications
Message-ID: <gj-2501952243190001@gj.irock.com>
References: <9501250742.AA08436@tpts1.seed.net.tw>
In article <9501250742.AA08436@tpts1.seed.net.tw>,
idpt633@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_user) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My Find panel in Edit.app suddenly would not appear after "command-f".
> Has anyone experienced the same situation before?
>
I experienced this too, the very first time I tried it. What's wrong?
I'm running NSFIP 3.3.
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From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Image processing system...
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 26 Jan 1995 11:40:41 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3g81np$cp3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <9501251136.AA03898@estel.uindy.edu>
Steve Spicklemire (steve@estel.uindy.edu) wrote:
: I have an opportunity to recommend a system for developing new
: software for an image processing application. I'm not talking
: about another PhotoShop.... the problem is more like: how do you
: batch process 1500 tiffs, doing math (background subtraction,
: gain masking), image processing (cropping, panning, zooming,
: color correction), and (possibly) Other Neat Stuff (tm), without
: losing track of where everything is, and what is happening, and
: make it a pleasant experience for the poor slob at the controls.
: In my view.. it sounds like a job for NEXTSTEP! ('specially that
: last part :->) So..... what I'd like to know is: what's the best
: current choice for hardware for this application? What's a good
: choice for software to help? (e.g., I'm thinking for pbmplus as
: a starting point, to get things going.. and then perhaps custom
: stuff from there.. depending on the needs of the system....) Is
: the HP hardware all it's cracked up to be? Would Intel be better?
An HP 712/60 (if you can afford /80) and TIFFany 2.2x is an ideal
solution for all kinds of image processing, including batched processes.
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From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Flat-file database needed.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 26 Jan 1995 11:43:19 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3g81sn$cp3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <D2yKFL.4FC@rat.se>
Erik Heimdahl (erik@rat.se) wrote:
: Anyone know about a (preferably public domain or share-ware) flat-file database (or something
: simpler like FileMaker on the Macintosh). I need it quite bad.
Have a look at VarioData 3.1. Demo available on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
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From: hoff@lache.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Low-end SQL Database for EOF??
Date: 26 Jan 1995 16:03:53 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Sender: hoff@lache (Holger Hoffstaette)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g8h59$rel@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3g65b0$1i5@island.amtsgi.bc.ca>
In article <3g65b0$1i5@island.amtsgi.bc.ca>,
rsmallwo@islandnet.com writes:
>I want to take some time to investigate EOF 1.0 but presently do not have
>a SQL database to use with it. At this time as I am only investigating, I
[..]
>develop some apps with EOF. Can anyone suggest any other solutions?
You might want to check out mSQL (Mini-SQL), a free light-weight SQL
database. M. Onyschuck has written an EOF adaptor for it (it's on
the FTP archives). The latest version of mSQL is on bond.edu.au
in /pub/Minerva/msql; there's also a mailing list available,
for discussion of bugs and feature suggestions. Highly recommended!
Currently, it's not exactly something to store your MCCA data, but for
learning EOF it works fine, and hey - it's free!
Holger
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From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: Wanted: really simple app to combat RSI
Message-ID: <D2zBMs.CI3@bldrdoc.gov>
Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
References: <thompsonD2wA1u.6JE@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 20:59:15 GMT
Eric Thompson writes
> I'd like to see an app that pops up a reminder panel every X minutes
> which tells me to take a break from typing.
You could call it (or just USE an) Egg Timer (that's what I did in grad
school at least).
-E
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
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From: jan@icgned.nl (Jan Roskott)
Subject: Re: NEXT - GAMES
Message-ID: <D31JnI.K9n@icgned.nl>
Sender: news@icgned.nl
Organization: IC Group
References: <3g46rg$ki2@pinyon.enet.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:47:41 GMT
In article <3g46rg$ki2@pinyon.enet.net> dwilson@news.enet.net (Dan Wilson)
writes:
>
> Are there any games that can be played on the Next Version 3.0 ?? if so,
> wheere could I get them from.
>
Try the Big Green Disk CD. It's not Myst, but still fun...
Jan
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: bibliography software
Date: 26 Jan 1995 14:41:18 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g8cae$prm@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <950126074201.13386AADFE.dan@ca1>
In article <950126074201.13386AADFE.dan@ca1> dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
writes:
* We have a rather large (~12,000 entries) bibliographic database
* that we have maintained for years using TIB, a Bibtex-like program
* that interfaces well with latex. It has become just too difficult
* to maintain the database with TIB, however, so we would like to
* move it to something else, preferably under Nextstep. As far as
* I know, there are no specific bibliographic programs running
* under nextstep (please let me know if I'm wrong), so I was
* wondering what other people do. Are there good database programs
* under nextstep that would be suitable for maintaining a bib
* database? Has anyone done such a thing?
*
As you probably know NeXT comes with a complete TeX and BibTeX system.
I am 95% sure that there is a converter TIB->BibTeX and there are
several (terminal based) Unix tools for manipulating BibTeX files.
There are also a few X-Windows tools for same. I have been hacking
around with building a NS based front end for some of these but
haven't ever found the time to finish it. It wouldn't be hard to do
though---probably a few days work for someone who knew what they were doing.
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voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: S:bibtex front-end
Date: 26 Jan 95 15:43:14
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <ried.95Jan26154314@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Hi folks,
I'm searching for something that helps me editing my bibtex-files. There are nice things for X11 like bibview or xbibtex.
Is there anywhere a port for NS ?
please send e-mail. I'm not observing this group.
stef
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From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Search SuperDraw.app
Date: 27 Jan 1995 09:36:20 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gaeqk$kr@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hello,
I am searching for a doctored Draw.app, presumably called SuperDraw.app and
distributed free on some CDs. This is a modified Draw.app which can do more
than the simple Draw.app, especially rotation of objects, which is what I am
looking for!
If you could either NeXTmail me a copy (for intel-based NeXTSTEP) or send me
pointers where I could find such a program (or any other PD drawing program
which can do rotations and the rest of the basic drawing operations) I would
be really grateful to you.
Thanks in advance,
Helmut
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From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: Need dial-supra.tcl for PNI-help please
In-Reply-To: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 26 Jan 1995 17:45:15 -0500
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Jan26200426@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3g98lr$1r2@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:04:24 GMT
>>>>> "John" == John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> writes:
John> Some of my non-ZyXEL friends want to get on the net with
John> PNI. But, sadly, PNI doesn't come with a .tcl script for a
John> Supra modem. I remember a while back, someone had such a
John> script. If you have such a script, and wouldn't mind
John> e-mailing it to me--I would appreciate it.
John> I guess to keep from getting a zillion such scripts, it
John> would be nice to just check and see if I still need it.
John> Thank you :)
John> Later, John
My dial-Supra.tcl is just the same as the Zyxel except I removed
all the AT commands from it. You may find this weird but if you
can dial out (with kermit for example) you don't need to do anything
more to the modem to do slip. So just remove that setup string.
Francois Magnan
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From: dwright@myhost.subdomain.domain (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with NS3.2 & 2 GIG Drive
Date: 27 Jan 1995 03:53:00 GMT
Organization: String to put in the Organization Header
Message-ID: <3g9qms$bvd@nova.voicenet.com>
I have a DX4/100 running NS 3.2. Have an Adaptec 1542CF and the
new driver. The 2.1 Gig drive is a DEC DSP3210
The install will not recognize the drive as a valid install drive.
SO! I installed NS on a 1 gig, and set up a disktab entry for the 2 gig
drive. I can do a scsimode on the drive, but as soon as I go to DISK
the drive, it gives me an I/O error.
Has anybody gotten a 2gig or specifically the DEC DSP3210 to work?
Darren
From: dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: bibliography software
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 13:42:01 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Message-ID: <950126074201.13386AADFE.dan@ca1>
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We have a rather large (~12,000 entries) bibliographic database that we have
maintained for years using TIB, a Bibtex-like program that interfaces well with
latex. It has become just too difficult to maintain the database with TIB,
however, so we would like to move it to something else, preferably under
Nextstep. As far as I know, there are no specific bibliographic programs
running under nextstep (please let me know if I'm wrong), so I was wondering
what other people do. Are there good database programs under nextstep that
would be suitable for maintaining a bib database? Has anyone done such a thing?
Do we have to resort to a DOS/windows program?
Thanks for any help.
dan
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From: Kenny_Leung@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Number Nine Imagine128 drivers
Date: 26 Jan 1995 17:58:57 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3g8nt1$h3@rosie.next.com>
References: <daemon9D308uG.JyI@netcom.com>
In article <daemon9D308uG.JyI@netcom.com> daemon9@netcom.com (Route)
writes:
>
> Ok, what's the deal? I called NeXT. No one knew ANYTHING about
> drivers for the Number Nine Imagine 128-bit video card. This is
This is a rather strong statement. I can't imagine anyone from tech
support saying that they knew nothing about the Imagine 128 driver. In
fact, there is information in NeXTAnswer #1742 about the Imagine 128 card.
(attached at the end of this post)
> not good. I spent $850+huge sums on NeXT for
640x480x2@60Hz!!!??
> FUCK NO! I spoke with a tech support rep, who couldn't find
> anything to even get me on as a beta tester! This SUCKS!!!
>
You probably couldn't get on as a beta tester because there is no beta
program for these drivers (and probably won't be in the future). The life
cycle of a driver nowadays is just too short.
> If anyone, anywhere has ANY information regard this issue,
please
> mail me. Maybe we could work together....
>
> Thanks for hearing my RANT....
>
>
> --
> /-----------------------------------/ Knowledge is the key.
> / The pursuit of knowledge /
> / / ~ ~
> /ftp ftp.netcom.com /pub/da/daemon9 / ~ ~
> /-----------------------------------/ ~ ~
>
Please identify yourself. ftp.netcom.com is not always reachable.
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I do not speak for NeXT
My cat speaks for me.
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NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Release 3.3
Display Driver Overview
Driver: Number Nine Imagine128
Current Availability: Future
Driver Location (if not on CDROM): NeXTanswer #1741
Driver Overview: NeXTanswer #1742
Last Update: January 25 1995
Driver Name / Installer .pkg: Number9Imagine128DisplayDriver.config
Driver Type: Display
Driver Scope: Product Family
Component Supported: Imagine 128
Component Manufacturer: Number Nine
PC Bus / Interface Supported by Driver*: PCI
General Overview notes:
Supported Products / Add-on Adapters:
Imagine 128 (PCI)
Supported Products / Systems (ie integrated into PC System):
Special Features of Driver / Driver Notes:
Display Driver Details
Frame Buffer Sizes Supported*: 2MB VRAM, 4MB VRAM, 8MB VRAM
Display Modes (Number in () after resolution indicates frame buffer size
required)
32 Bit Color Modes*:
1024x768 (4MB+), 1152x864 (4MB+), 640x480 (2MB+), 800x600 (2MB+)
16 Bit Color Modes*:
1024x768 (2MB+), 1152x864 (2MB+), 1280x1024 (4MB+), 1600x1200 (4MB+),
640x480 (1MB+), 800x600 (1MB+)
8 Bit Color / Greyscale Modes*:
1024x768 (1MB+), 1152X864 (1MB+), 1280x1024 (2MB+), 1600x1200 (4MB+),
640X480 (1MB+), 800x600 (1MB+)
Supported RAMDAC's*:
Known Problems
Future Planning
Future / Update Planning: Under Development
Reason for New Driver / Update: New Driver
New Driver / Update Timeframe: Q1 95
New Driver / Update Description:
Note: Information contained in the "Future Planning" section of this
document does not constitute a commitment on the part of NeXT to complete
the planned development work.
* - Indicates information that is inclusive of the entire capability of
this driver. Not all devices supported by this driver may include all
features listed. Check any available NeXTanswers and the hardware manual
for the device for additional information.
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From: erik@sultan.ping.de (Erik Doernenburg)
Subject: Spanish wordlist for ispell?
Message-ID: <1995Jan20.235915.492@sultan.ping.de>
Sender: erik@sultan.ping.de
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 23:59:15 GMT
Hello out there,
does anybody know where I can get a Spanish wordlist for ispell? There is
no entry in the file "Where" in the "languages" folder that comes with
ispell.
Please answer by mail to frank@egal.ping.de as I am not subscribed to
c.s.n.s.
Bisditage
Frank.
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From: znek@beefree.ping.de (Tethpub Znek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: New OSD ATI Driver in sight ?
Date: 27 Jan 1995 02:55:23 GMT
Organization: Wissenschaftsladen Dortmund/LogikFabrik
Message-ID: <3g9nar$hme@anarch.ping.de>
Hi all !
Today we purchased the ATI Graphics Pro Turbo PCI card with 2MB VRAM
(by the way - thanks to all those people who responded to my posting !)
the graphics card is doing well (really fast) ... only the driver from
OSD is making trouble (as posted some weeks ago) on certain cards (including
ours) ... since it looks really cool - you can nearly adjust everything -
I would like to know who developed it [maybe the sources are for free ?]
and if there will be a bug-fix for the new layouted pro turbo board ?
Anybody got a clue ?
Thanks in advance,
Marcus.
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,com.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: really simple app to combat RSI
Date: 26 Jan 1995 23:15:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3g9adv$88c@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <D2zBMs.CI3@bldrdoc.gov>
In article <D2zBMs.CI3@bldrdoc.gov> eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
writes:
>Eric Thompson writes
>> I'd like to see an app that pops up a reminder panel every X minutes
>> which tells me to take a break from typing.
>
>
>You could call it (or just USE an) Egg Timer (that's what I did in grad
>school at least).
>
>-E
>
>
>--
>Eric S. Boltz
> My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S.
Gov't,
> the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
Well,
I whipped together a simple EggTimer.app
as suggested.
It has one panel in which you set the following:
1) The message (A short sentence)
2) Time to remind (type it in or scroll) in minutes.
3) Use Sound Alert (or not).
It is compiled only for blackk hardware only.
The panel shows up in x minutes and plays a timer
sound (if set). You can then, either set another
delay or set delay to 0 for no-reminder.
If you can get NeXTMail, let
me know and I'll send it to you.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: where can I find sox for NS/I
Message-ID: <D30GMx.Ir@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <3g623q$45t@panix.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 11:44:56 GMT
In article <3g623q$45t@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
writes:
> In <950125142749.948AACUG.malc@white> mmalcolm Crawford
<m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
> >Best to use GISO.app, a NEXTSTEP front-end to sox, available from
> > ftp://cs.orst.edu/pub/next
> >somewhere...
>
> Ummmm....last I checked, GISO didn't come with an NS/I
> binary of sox. Have things changed? Am I just blind?
I did not check it, but the version on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
should be usable on Intel processors, too. You find it under
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/audio-apps/GISO.3.2.NI.b.tar.gz
(perhaps there is a newer version). The .NI. in the name stands for
NeXT, Intel ;-)
Michael
--
*** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen
*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106
*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
*** Michael_Pieper@AC.maus.de (only < 16kB, please)
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need dial-supra.tcl for PNI-help please
Date: 26 Jan 1995 17:45:15 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g98lr$1r2@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Some of my non-ZyXEL friends want to get on the net with PNI. But, sadly,
PNI doesn't come with a .tcl script for a Supra modem. I remember a while
back, someone had such a script. If you have such a script, and wouldn't mind
e-mailing it to me--I would appreciate it.
I guess to keep from getting a zillion such scripts, it would be nice to just
check and see if I still need it.
Thank you :)
Later, John
From: phil@wyatt.com (Philip J. Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTstep 3.3
Date: 26 Jan 1995 23:58:17 GMT
Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g9cup$n7n@news.rain.org>
Where's the best place to buy 3.3 for the NeXT? Is it a MUST? How much
better than 3.1?
Thanks
Phil Wyatt
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Funnt effects with SLIP
Date: 26 Jan 1995 23:52:20 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3g9cjk$pkb@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3g7hr7$l48@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
In article <3g7hr7$l48@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>,
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl> wrote:
>Well, after a little struggle I got PNI 1.13 to work on my home slab.
>There are a couple of funny observations I made, and I wonder if anyone
>could shed some light here:
>
>1) Whenever the print panel comes up with the SLIP line up, it takes much
> longer than with the line down; I also see the lights on the modem flash.
> Why? I even managed to crash the printer daemon by bringing down the
> link while bringing up the print panel!
>
Add the following to login.tcl or anywhere after you have done the ifconfig
for the interface you have brought up. $1 should contain the ip address of
the interface you just established.
#
exec /etc/route add $1 localhost 0
syslog LOG_INFO "route add $1 localhost 0"
>2) When I ftp from home to work (NeXT -> Xyplex -> HP720 (HP-UX)
> (unfortunately) I get a throughput reported by ftp of 1550-1600
> bytes/sec, which looks very reasonable. On the way back, though,
> I only get 1150-1200 bytes/sec (all on .gz files). MTU=1500, no
> cslip. Are there twidllable parameters to tweak?
>
Are you sending .gz files both ways? Whats the base speed of the modem?
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Digitial color cameras for NeXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <D2xnyu.FJF@trapac.com>
Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 23:30:29 GMT
What's available for digitizing color images for NeXTSTEP?
Ideal would be to have a camera that I can drag around, shoot 20
pictures or so, and then bring into NeXTSTEP in tiff format.
However, I am interested in hearing other solutions such as flatbed
scanners and the such.
Also, I have both a PC and Mac, and if I have to use that for an
inbetween stage, that is also acceptable.
--
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
[My opinions are my own]
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AppleTalk? :)
Date: 27 Jan 1995 01:29:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3g9iah$fcg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello again!
Just a quick query this time -- no major damage to report :)
Do any of you have the AppleTalk and AppleShare binaries for black hardware?
I believe that both of these once came standard with earlier versions of NS
(I'm running 3.2), and I would like to be able to link up to the MANY Macs
on the net out where I am.
Thanks in advance for any replies to either here or
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (NeXTMail welcome!) !
-- John
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | Any philosophy that can be
4th Year Computer Engineering | put in a nutshell belongs
Case Western Reserve Univ. | there.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Sydney J. Harris
______________________________|_____________________________
Happiness isn't something you experience; it's something you
remember.
-- Oscar Levant
____________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Number Nine Imagine128 drivers
Message-ID: <D325yI.GD@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <daemon9D308uG.JyI@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 09:49:29 GMT
In article <daemon9D308uG.JyI@netcom.com> daemon9@netcom.com (Route)
writes:
>
> Ok, what's the deal? I called NeXT. No one knew ANYTHING
Right thats the question whats the deal? You can use news but not ftp?
You should read the manuals. Then you would find the following
information:
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Release 3.3
Display Driver Overview
Driver: Number Nine Imagine128
Current Availability: Future
NeXTanswers Driver #: 1741
NeXTanswers Overview #: 1742
Last Update: 15 December 94
Driver Name / Installer .pkg: Number9Imagine128DisplayDriver.config
Driver Type: Display
Driver Scope: Product Family
Component Supported: Imagine 128
Component Manufacturer: Number Nine
PC Bus / Interface Supported by Driver*: PCI
Supported Products / Add-on Adapters:
Imagine 128 PCI
Supported Products / Systems (ie integrated into PC System):
Special Features of Driver / Driver Notes:
Display Driver Details
Frame Buffer Sizes Supported*: 2MB VRAM, 4MB VRAM, 8MB VRAM
Display Modes (Number in () after resolution indicates frame buffer
size required)
32 Bit Color Modes*:
1024x768 (4MB+), 1152x864 (4MB+), 640x480 (2MB+), 800x600 (2MB+)
16 Bit Color Modes*:
1024x768 (2MB+), 1152x864 (2MB+), 1280x1024 (4MB+), 1600x1200
(4MB+), 640x480 (1MB+), 800x600 (1MB+)
8 Bit Color / Greyscale Modes*:
1024x768 (1MB+), 1152X864 (1MB+), 1280x1024 (2MB+), 1600x1200
(4MB+), 640X480 (1MB+), 800x600 (1MB+)
Supported RAMDAC's*:
Known Problems
None
Future Planning
Future / Update Planning: Under Development
Reason for New Driver / Update: New Driver
New Driver / Update Timeframe: Q1 95
New Driver / Update Description:
Note: Information contained in the "Future Planning" section of this
document does not constitute a commitment on the part of NeXT to
complete the planned development work.
* - Indicates information that is inclusive of the entire capability of
this driver. Not all devices supported by this driver may include all
features listed. Check any available NeXTanswers and the hardware
manual for the device for additional information.
--
OneVision? YES!
Email hans@OneVision.de
From: darn@crl.com (Scott Hendryx)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with ql2fax converting wpwin6.0
Date: 27 Jan 1995 08:07:46 -0800
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest]
Message-ID: <3gb5oi$9na@crl8.crl.com>
I don't if I'm in the right group, but I've got a new PC with dos 6.22
loaded, windows, 3.11, and quicklink 2 for dos to fax resumes outta
wpwin6.0. The problem is when I go to convert the Doc under the Ql2Fax
converter it gives me conversion error, Graphics file errors. Also does
the same with msword and the word with windows appl. wpwin5.2 works fine
on another machine. ANy Suggestions would be appreciated
Regards
Scott Hendryx
214-291-0931 (collect)
darn@crl.com E-mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: daemon9@netcom.com (Route)
Subject: Number Nine Imagine128 drivers
Message-ID: <daemon9D308uG.JyI@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 08:56:40 GMT
Ok, what's the deal? I called NeXT. No one knew ANYTHING about
drivers for the Number Nine Imagine 128-bit video card. This is
not good. I spent $850+huge sums on NeXT for 640x480x2@60Hz!!!??
FUCK NO! I spoke with a tech support rep, who couldn't find
anything to even get me on as a beta tester! This SUCKS!!!
If anyone, anywhere has ANY information regard this issue, please
mail me. Maybe we could work together....
Thanks for hearing my RANT....
--
/-----------------------------------/ Knowledge is the key.
/ The pursuit of knowledge /
/ / ~ ~
/ftp ftp.netcom.com /pub/da/daemon9 / ~ ~
/-----------------------------------/ ~ ~
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (g.c.l.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Trade: Nova CD for Big Green
Date: 28 Jan 1995 00:54:30 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <3gc4k6$m4a@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I have a Nova CDrom for Black Hardware, 2nd Edition, 2/1994
which I'd like to trade for a Big Green CDrom for Intel.
any takers?
Gary
__________________________________________________________________
gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please
Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list
__________________________________________________________________
From: dennisg@news-srvr.CyberSAFE.COM (Dennis Glatting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for NeXT/HPPA?
Date: 26 Jan 1995 21:26:07 -0800
Organization: CyberSAFE Corporation, Redmond WA
Message-ID: <3ga05f$asf@kerby.ocsg.com>
References: <3frrl5$2ohu@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3fs33s$gqe@redstone.interpath.net> <3g07s2$bch@columba.udac.uu.se>
Contact Cygnus and ask about g77.
-dpg
--
Dennis P. Glatting / CyberSAFE Corporation
Network and Security Infrastructure Architect
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: smcarr@argus.UWaterloo.ca (Steve Carr)
Subject: LaTeX
Message-ID: <D30w3n.M7w@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:18:57 GMT
Hi,
I'm new to NeXT. Can anyone point me to the best version of LaTeX to run
on the NeXT? I've heard that there is a really nice implementation with
automatic view-as-you-edit features, etc. (probably commercial product).
Also, are there any tricks to getting free LaTeX macros running on an
'040 system running Nextstep 3.3, or is it just a matter of creating a
format file under Unix from the LaTeX2e sources?
Any help appreciated!
--
Stephen M. Carr smcarr@uwaterloo.ca
Department of Systems Design smcarr@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
University of Waterloo, Canada 885 -1211 x3836, CPH-1336A
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar program for NS/HPPA???
Date: 26 Jan 1995 16:24:07 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g93tn$a56@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3g5qhr$2e8a@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3g8bjg$ddr@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) writes:
>> anyone know of a caldendar program like daytripper or
>> cassandra that is triple fat?
>We just got PencilMeIn, its triple fat and it works great as a group
>scheduler/Calender App. Contact Sarrus S/w: tammy@sarrus.com
I'd like to add that I too am very pleased with Pencil Me In. Dont forget to
ask for the EDU discount if you are a student. It helps my rattled life
by letting me know, for sure, that I missed a deadline :-)
Later, John
X
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Real 3.3 Mail shortcomings?
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 14:21:56 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950125142156.948AACUF.malc@white>
References: <D2IHtp.4KF@nvc.cc.ca.us> <3fju8m$ru7@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <D2vJyo.C09@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
In article <3fju8m$ru7@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>,
Wassim M. Jabi <wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu> wrote:
>What I do is use the "MailTo" service (available at all standard ftp
>archives). You simply hilite any e-mail address in any application and
>choose Service->MailTo. Mail.app gets activated with a new Compose Window
>and the E-mail address is pasted in the "To" field. Simple and effective!
>I mostly use it from within the Mail.app when people give me e-mail
>addresses of other people to contact. It beats, hiliting, copying,
>clicking compose and then pasting. I just hilite and choose the menu item.
>I only wish I knew of a way to add a Command-key equivalent, so that I
>don't have to pull down menus.
>
In Preferences.app, look for the Menu preferences panel:
In the Keyboard Alternatives Box, in the Command TextField type
MailTo
and in the Key Alternative TextField type whatever key equivalent you want
(assuming you can find one that isn't taken! ;-)
You'll have to restart any applications you want to use this from, but...
Have fun,
mmalc.
posn. research facilitator
where institute for language speech and hearing
sheffield university
c/o department of computer science
regent court
211 portobello street
sheffield s1 4dp
england
vox (+44) 114 282 5594
fax (+44) 114 278 0972
email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome
Micro$oft mail at a push
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where can I find sox for NS/I
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 14:27:49 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950125142749.948AACUG.malc@white>
References: <3g384u$62j@panix.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Best to use GISO.app, a NEXTSTEP front-end to sox, available from
ftp://cs.orst.edu/pub/next
somewhere...
If you want to be able to see and play .wav and .aiff files in Workspace,
you could try MMSoundInspector from the same site... there do appear to be a
couple of bugs with it, one or two due to NeXT's sound drivers, and one I
can't fathom yet which means that very occasionally .snd or .au files are
seen as being of zero-length.
If anybody has any suggestions as to why this might happen, or in particular
if the chap(*) from NeXT who wrote the original Workspace Sound Inspector
could give me a hint, it'd be much appreciated! :-)
Have fun,
mmalc.
(*) In my definition, in this sense, "chap" does not convey a gender
expectation...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: PCNFSD(2cond try)-Help!
Message-ID: <D30x1u.Hyy@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:39:30 GMT
Since I received only one reply from my original posting I suspect that
our newsreader is acting up ( I didn't even see the posting).
Problem: NS3.3/Intel PC connected via ethernet to a Windows' PC running
Chameleon NFS. I want to be able to print in Windows to a printer
called "Dad" attached to the NeXT PC via its parallel port. The
printer is a Postscript HP4MP. I also want to export various
directories and have Windows see them as letters! For example, I
should like to export my home " /seadrive/philip" .
So Far: By luck I have managed to telnet into the NeXT and ftp to it. But
I can't print. When I try to browse for a printer it complains I
am not running PCNFSD. I am told that this is replaced by rc.* on
the NeXT. I also can't assign letters to the exported directories
for the same reason. Finally, I can import a PC Windows' directory
onto the NeXT and it is mounted under /Net/compaq, and I can ls
the drive and see it, save to it, etc...But I can't see it in the
Browser! When I click on /Net/compaq it won't open, even though
the directory /Net/compaq/c is there!
Assigning the IP address of the NeXT and the printer name to LPT1 does
not work. I get a psvf not running on the NeXT error when I try to print.
I can save the output to a file, ftp it to the NeXT, telnet into the NeXT
and lpr it to the printer, but it would be nice to have this automated.
Somehow PCNFSD is involved and my knowledge of NetInfo is hopeless. Could
someone please mail me idiot proof instructions on how to do this? I don't
want to have to buy another printer! When I say idiot proof, I mean it:)
Thank's...Philip
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: Joel-Bussey@uoknor.edu (Joel A. Bussey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help on a PPP Server!!!
Date: 26 Jan 1995 20:51:01 GMT
Organization: University of Oklahoma Printing Services
Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[7657]
Message-ID: <3g91vl$33f@romulus.ucs.uoknor.edu>
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
I could use some help on deciding what to do in this situation:
We are directly connected to the internet via the University. I have a
NEXTSTEP workstation directly connected to the internet through
ethernet. I want to be able to access the internet from home via PPP
running on the NEXSTEP station. Does anyone have any suggestions as to
what server I should run on the NEXTSTEP station? Is there one that is
free that I could use?
Thanks
Joel
--
Joel-Bussey@uoknor.edu
Computer Guru and Electronic Musician
System Administrator - University of Oklahoma Printing Services
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Subject: Re: bibliography software---Of course there is a NEXTSTEP solution!!!
Message-ID: <D31IsJ.v2@califhistsoc.org>
Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848
References: <950126074201.13386AADFE.dan@ca1>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:29:07 GMT
In article <950126074201.13386AADFE.dan@ca1> dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
writes:
> We have a rather large (~12,000 entries) bibliographic database
MUNCH...
>As far as I know, there are no specific bibliographic programs
> running under nextstep (please let me know if I'm wrong),
You are not wrong--You just haven't heard about VTLS (Virginia Tech
Library Systems). They have a major OPAC that runs on an HP-UX box as the
server and the clients are all a NEXTSTEP-based Multimedia Catalog
interface called "InfoStation". My institution's entire Collection
Digitization effort is based on NEXTSTEP.
Just when the World assumes that NEXTSTEP doesn't exist as a solution...
it appears and happens to be the most elegant interface available.
Here are the contacts:
sandeep@next2.vtls.com (Sandeep Somaiya) (The programmer himself)
palttalaa@vtls.com (Ari Palttala) (Director of Marketing)
Robert MacKimmie
California Historical Society
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Port of NS for Alpha?
Date: 27 Jan 1995 17:34:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gbaqb$rtt@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3g80go$8af@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
In article <3g80go$8af@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
> It's not just rumour. DEC and NeXT made an announcement late last year
that
> DEC is going to port NeXTSTEP to the Alpha Chip. That's a fact. (
>
Is this in addition to the previous announcement that OpenStep/OSF/1
is planned?
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Cubic Solutions Fax: +1 408 335 2515
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep USmail: 315 Moon Meadow Lane
Software Development and Consulting Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Report: SoftPC 4.0 for Black and HP, 2 wk survey finished.
Date: 27 Jan 1995 20:19:55 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3gbkhb$2ds@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: SoftPC
All,
I finished the survey last weekend. I got 92 requests for a
version of SoftPC 4.0 for HP PA and Black. I sent the info to Insignia
and NeXT. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks for the replies.
Alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnus@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: Port of NS for Alpha?
References: <3ervt3$6vh@destiny.itsnet.com> <3g80go$8af@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Jan28000412@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk>
Sender: news@festival.ed.ac.uk (remote news read deamon)
Organization: ICAPB, Edinburgh University
In-Reply-To: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de's message of 26 Jan 1995 11:19:52 GMT
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 00:04:12 GMT
In article <3g80go$8af@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
It's not just rumour. DEC and NeXT made an announcement late last
year that DEC is going to port NeXTSTEP to the Alpha Chip. That's
a fact. (
No, it isn't. The announcement concerned OpenStep which is indeed
supposed to be ported to OSF/Alpha.
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology and Evolution
The University of Chicago
Temporary address:
magnus@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger)
ICAPB
The University of Edinburgh
King's Buildings
West Mains Road
Edinburgh, EH9 3JT
U.K.
From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP! Getting PNI SLIP to work...
Date: 26 Jan 1995 15:50:26 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3g8gc2$17du@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
References: <3g65su$1aho@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> <3g6620$1aho@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Geepers Everybody! Don't all respond at once!
Well anyway here's an update, I've got TransSys PNI v1.11 SLIP nearly up and
running!
Turns out when you do /etc/pni/pnirun -all etc etc pni0
^^^^ ^^^^
Those two parameters don't mix! Thus things would not work correctly. However
after I fixed that and had PNI setup to run at bootup. That part is ok,
however my modem script was wrong (and still is by the way) so when my
machine rebooted, it "hung" with the spinning disk just before the login
panel was displayed. (Time to boot into single user mode and fix it!)
So again! Does anybody have a dialup script for either an intel or supra modem?
I would be most appreciative if you could share it with me!
In addition, I need to figure out how to do mail. According to the TransSys docs
you're sapposedly to stay away from HostManager.app to configure addresses etc,
or is this incorrect and all a person needs to do is follow the instructions
in the NeXTAdmin docs for setting up mailhost and so on?
What to do, what to do, anybody?
Help!
--
Hakuna Matata!
Tom
#include <std-disclaimer.h>
|o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o|
|o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" -Marvin Martian |o|
|o| work: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (NeXTMail Ok!) |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stephen@gcm.com (Stephen Slayton)
Subject: Re: Where can I get MATLAB for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.195900.13329@gcm.com>
Sender: usenet@gcm.com (Cnews Administrator)
Organization: Greenwich Capital Markets, Inc.
References: <3fjcuc$dcf@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 19:59:00 GMT
Not available. A clone from FSF is, Octave (v1.1 just came out).
comp.soft-sys.matlab is seeing a lot of positive traffic on it
recently regarding Octave (Mathworks folks must love this).
Question: anyone using Octave on NeXT? Is it great?
ANY bugs at all ? (My matlab code is mission critical).
Thanks,
Stephen Slayton
stephen@gcm.com
(Only ASCII mail please)
sela@iastate.edu wrote:
: Subject says it all.
: --
: *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
: * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) *
: * --------------------------------------------------------- *
: * He who throws mud loses ground. *
: ****************************************************************
--
Stephen Slayton
stephen@gcm.com
(Only ASCII mail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jan@icgned.nl (Jan Roskott)
Subject: Re: bibliography software
Message-ID: <D334KF.Lt1@icgned.nl>
Sender: news@icgned.nl
Organization: IC Group
References: <950126074201.13386AADFE.dan@ca1>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 22:17:02 GMT
In article <950126074201.13386AADFE.dan@ca1> dan@mossy.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
writes:
> We have a rather large (~12,000 entries) bibliographic database
> however, so we would like to move it to something else, preferably under
> Nextstep. As far as I know, there are no specific bibliographic
programs
> running under nextstep (please let me know if I'm wrong)
I may be mistaken, but it sounds like you need VTLS Infostation.
info@next2.vtls.com
358-0-7013047
358-0-7013173 fax
Jan Roskott
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From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone using CAP on an m68k NeXT?
Date: 27 Jan 1995 23:18:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gbv0o$rp9@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
Is it possible to run CAP on m68k NeXTs in Native Ethertalk mode? The default
configuration does not do so, but it seems to think NeXTs are all running OS
2.0, so the Configure script may be out of date.
If someone is doing this, could you please contact me about how to configure
for this?
Thanks.
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Khoros Sites
Message-ID: <1995Jan26.202116.1145@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 20:21:16 GMT
Ignore the info I posted on where to get Khoros for NeXT/Moto. Two people
have told me that both sites cited don't seem to support anonymous ftp or
the directory isn't there. If somebody does know the whereabouts of
Khoros for NeXT please post it.
--
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rlove@raptor.rmnug.org PGP key available
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From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: History key?
Date: 28 Jan 95 08:53:26 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Message-ID: <1995Jan28.085326@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <1995Jan23.002709.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> <1995Jan23.174653.16871@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1995Jan23.174653.16871@midway.uchicago.edu>, rwach@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Chip Ach) writes:
> In article <1995Jan23.002709.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>,
> <sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> wrote:
>>In Terminal, is there a history key analagous to the up arrow in VMS or Linux?
>
There is way described in NextAnswers. It works with Emacs keys. At
this moment my system is still in the removal boxes, so I cannot be
more explicit. Send e-mail if you need further explanation. Or maybe
someone else can post how to do it.
Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
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From: emoss@unlinfo.unl.edu (eric moss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Advice needed on NS platform purchase
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 28 Jan 1995 18:37:41 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3ge2tl$oqe@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <950122140443.9206AACUI.malc@white> <D2v9yA.3w0@pages.com>
Bruce F. Webster (bwebster@pages.com) wrote:
: In article <950122140443.9206AACUI.malc@white> mmalcolm Crawford
: <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
: >
: > It's possble that Pages might also meet your requirements, but
: > I'm not sure if the design models provided will satisfy any
: > publishers, and am not sure if it has the level of crossreferencing
: > etc. available from FrameMaker (anyone else have experience of
: > this?).
: >
: Well, I do. :-) Pages was not intended for book publshing; Frame already
: had the long tech-doc market filled, and we saw no reason to go
: head-to-head with them for what under NEXTSTEP is a miniscule niche (which
: is why Frame abandoned NEXTSTEP for a while). We have a long list of
: features that were not in release 1.0 of Pages; each successive release
: adds features from that list based on actual demand from paying customers.
: Few of those have to do with book/tech-doc production.
: Having said all that, I will note that I wrote all drafts of my latest
: book using Pages and the Documents design model. When it came time for
: final copy editing and production, I exported the chapters as ASCII files,
: and the production editor used Quark to lay out the book--but he designed
: it based on my layout using Pages, which he said not only made his job a
: lot easier, but made his page count estimates quite accurate.
: The book? _Pitfalls of Object-Oriented Development_ from MIS Press. :-)
: ..bruce..
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------
: Bruce F. Webster | Progress, far from consisting in change,
: CTO, Pages Software Inc | depends on retentiveness. Those who cannot
: bwebster@pages.com | remember the past are condemned to fulfil
: http://www.pages.com | it. -- George Santayana
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Speaking of book production, how did Pages Inc produce their manuals?
There is no ability in Pages 1.5 to use non-standard paper sizes. What is
the chance that either (1) several more paper sizes (5.5 x 8.5, or 6 x
9) will be included in, say, the Victory Design Model, and/or (2) that
arbitrary or semi-arbitrary paper sizes will be supported--even if in,
say, .5in increments? Until this is a part of Pages, it will be an
expensive toy, albeit a cool toy, on my machine.
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: librarian to handle compressed files?
Date: 27 Jan 1995 21:45:46 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3gbpia$7u8@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
Keywords: librarian, compression
Having NS3.3 installed, and just having pulled 35MB(?) compressed
NextAnswers, I am wondering if there is a way to index/use compressed
archives in librarian...
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance (ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu)
AGSM at UCLA
From: mandrews@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What 's this Samba I keep hearing about ?
Date: 28 Jan 1995 14:28:50 -0500
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
Message-ID: <3ge5ti$a3s@fragile.termfrost.org>
References: <D2v7KB.A3s@clive> <3g0tsn$60g@xexos.xexos.com>
Hmmm... I can print from Windoze For Workgroups to a non-NeXT postscript
printer on my NeXTstation using Samba 1.8.05. I don't know about NT, though.
The trick I used was to NOT use /etc/printcap... mostly because I couldn't:
fragile% nidump printcap .
Printer Bopo can't be represented in printcap format.
So, I have a file /usr/local/samba/printcap instead, that simply has
Bopo|
in it. (yes, only 5 characters) With this, and the smb.conf file below (which
probably is not set up all that well for the file server stuff), I can print
to the laser from Windoze for Workgroups -- or at least Netscape can....
I was happy enough to get that working that I haven't tried anything else :)
[global]
debug=1
print command = /usr/ucb/lpr -r -P%p %s
lpq command = /usr/ucb/lpq -P
printer name = lp
printcap name = /usr/local/samba/printcap
guest account = nobody
comment = blah blah blah
auto services = locallib bopo mandrews
browsable = true
status = yes
[Bopo]
path = /tmp
comment = Postscript laser printer on Fragile
printer name = Bopo
printable = yes
public = true
browsable = true
read only = true
writable = no
create mode = 0700
; can't tell if this is needed or not, but it seems to work without
; postscript = yes
[locallib]
path = /LocalLibrary
comment = Sounds & GIFs & such...
read only = yes
public = true
browsable = true
[mandrews]
path = /users/mandrews
comment = Mike's home directory
read only = yes
public = true
browsable = true
--
-- Mike Andrews -=- mandrews@wittenberg.edu -=- root@fragile.termfrost.org --
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anyone using CAP on an m68k NeXT?
Date: 28 Jan 1995 19:13:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ge50d$a7k@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3gbv0o$rp9@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
In article <3gbv0o$rp9@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu
(Douglas Scott) writes:
> Is it possible to run CAP on m68k NeXTs in Native Ethertalk mode? The
> default configuration does not do so, but it seems to think NeXTs are
> all running OS 2.0, so the Configure script may be out of date.
Another NextStep user posted his CAP success story back in September. He
said that with his patch (included below) CAP patch level 100 would work
with NextStep 3.2 on Motorolla hardware in IPTalk mode. One needs a
gatorbox to translate IPTalk to EtherTalk. I have this exact same
hardware setup (motorolla, NS 3.2, gatorbox), have been able to patch CAP
to level 100, patch with the NextStep patch below and then compile CAP. I
have not yet been able to install it successfully and get CAP working,
however. If anyone else has been successful, please post your story.
-- Todd Takken
takken@ravens.stanford.edu
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Getting CAP to work on NeXTSTEP 3.2
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Date: 15 Sep 1994 07:06:54 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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Distribution: world
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A few people have asked about running CAP on NeXTSTEP 3.2. I have
CAP patch level 100 running on NS-3.2 for Motorola. There is one
significant patch I've made to get this to work on NS-3.2 (as
opposed to NS-2.1), and I'm pretty sure some patch similar to this
is needed for later versions of CAP, but this exact patch probably
won't be quite right.
I also imagine that the text of this patch is going to get wrapped
along the way, so you may just want to use it for reference
purposes instead of just trying to apply it blindly... I realize
this isn't as helpful as it might be, but at least it points
people in the right direction for getting CAP to run under NS-3.2.
I have other patches to CAP for various things, but I'm pretty
sure this is the only NeXTSTEP specific one. I haven't sorted
out the others yet (and I'd like to get them on patch level 192
first anyway, instead of patch level 100).
Even with this patch, you can only run CAP in it's IPTALK mode
under NeXTSTEP. You must have some gateway on your network which
can convert from IPTalk to EtherTalk or LocalTalk. There is
someone else working on a native ethertalk support for CAP, but
this update is not related to that.
Here's the patch. Hope this proves helpful to some people.
--+--[next line is first line of patch]--+--
*** ./conf.func.lst.orig Wed Mar 13 04:56:01 1991
--- ./conf.func.lst Mon Jul 25 23:16:46 1994
***************
*** 7,26 ****
# fill empty fields with x -- some machines strip extra IFS's
N+-,GETOPT,x,getopt,"cap: argument processing"
E,GETOPT,x,x,"cap: will use public domain getopt"
N+-,GETMNT,/usr/include/sys/mount.h,getmnt,"aufs: info on file systems
(dec)"
N+-,STATFS,/usr/include/sys/vfs.h,statfs,"aufs: info on file systems
(sun
nfs)"
! E,GETOPT,x,x,"aufs: no space information on volumes will be available"
N+-,QUOTA,/usr/include/sys/quota.h,quota,"aufs: info on user quota"
E,QUOTA,x,x,"aufs: no information on user quotas"
A+,SUNQUOTA,/usr/include/ufs/quota.h,quotactl,"aufs: info on user quota"
N+-,SUNQUOTA,/usr/include/mntent.h,getmntent,"aufs: used by sunquota"
E,SUNQUOTA,x,x,"aufs: not using sunquota system"
N+-,FLOCK,/usr/include/sys/file.h,flock,"afp: file locking"
E,FLOCK,x,x,"afp: don't run with multiple writes on a volume: no file
locking"
N+-,LOCKF,/usr/include/unistd.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking using
unistd.h"
N+-,FCNTLLOCKF,/usr/include/fcntl.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking using
fcntl.h"
E,LOCKF,x,x,"afp: don't run with multiple writes on a volume: no byte
range lock"
A+,VPRINTF,/usr/include/varargs.h,vprintf,"cap: variable arg printf"
N+-,VPRINTF,/usr/include/varargs.h,vfprintf,"cap: variable arg fprintf"
E,VPRINTF,x,x,"cap: no vprintf available, will do the best we can"
N-+,NORECVMSG,x,recvmsg,"cap: lib: scatter gather recv"
--- 7,32 ----
# fill empty fields with x -- some machines strip extra IFS's
N+-,GETOPT,x,getopt,"cap: argument processing"
E,GETOPT,x,x,"cap: will use public domain getopt"
N+-,GETMNT,/usr/include/sys/mount.h,getmnt,"aufs: info on file systems
(dec)"
+ N+,STATFS,/usr/include/bsd/sys/vfs.h,statfs,"aufs: info on file systems
(sun nfs, NS3.2)"
N+-,STATFS,/usr/include/sys/vfs.h,statfs,"aufs: info on file systems
(sun
nfs)"
! E,STATFS,x,x,"aufs: no space information on volumes will be available"
! N+,QUOTA,/usr/include/bsd/sys/quota.h,quota,"aufs: info on user quota
(NS3.2)"
N+-,QUOTA,/usr/include/sys/quota.h,quota,"aufs: info on user quota"
E,QUOTA,x,x,"aufs: no information on user quotas"
A+,SUNQUOTA,/usr/include/ufs/quota.h,quotactl,"aufs: info on user quota"
N+-,SUNQUOTA,/usr/include/mntent.h,getmntent,"aufs: used by sunquota"
E,SUNQUOTA,x,x,"aufs: not using sunquota system"
+ N+,FLOCK,/usr/include/bsd/sys/file.h,flock,"afp: file locking (NS3.2)"
N+-,FLOCK,/usr/include/sys/file.h,flock,"afp: file locking"
E,FLOCK,x,x,"afp: don't run with multiple writes on a volume: no file
locking"
N+-,LOCKF,/usr/include/unistd.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking using
unistd.h"
+ N+,FCNTLLOCKF,/usr/include/bsd/fcntl.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking
using fcntl.h (NS3.2)"
N+-,FCNTLLOCKF,/usr/include/fcntl.h,lockf,"afp: byte range locking using
fcntl.h"
E,LOCKF,x,x,"afp: don't run with multiple writes on a volume: no byte
range lock"
+ A+,VPRINTF,/usr/include/bsd/varargs.h,vprintf,"cap: variable arg printf
(NS3.2)"
+ N+-,VPRINTF,/usr/include/bsd/varargs.h,vfprintf,"cap: variable arg
fprintf
(NS3.2)"
A+,VPRINTF,/usr/include/varargs.h,vprintf,"cap: variable arg printf"
N+-,VPRINTF,/usr/include/varargs.h,vfprintf,"cap: variable arg fprintf"
E,VPRINTF,x,x,"cap: no vprintf available, will do the best we can"
N-+,NORECVMSG,x,recvmsg,"cap: lib: scatter gather recv"
--+--[previous line was last line of patch]--+--
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: simsong@pleasant.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can NS3.3 be installed on an '030 cube?
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 18:03:56 -0500
Organization: Pleasant Street Network
Message-ID: <simsong-2801951803560001@mac.pleasant.cambridge.ma.us>
References: <3g30u8$h4s@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <3g30u8$h4s@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon
Haveman) wrote:
> Basically, can an old cube hurdle all the way up the
> upgrade path? If not, what is the last version of the
> OS that will work?
>
Sure thing, but I wouldn't. Basically, you don't really get acceptable
performance on an '030 cube with anything over NeXTSTEP 2.0. That's
becuase on '040 hardware you want to save memory and spend cycles for
optimal performance, whereas with an '030 system you want to save cycles
and spend memory.
From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: video clips ?
Date: 28 Jan 1995 18:37:21 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ge2t1$9n6@zippo.uwasa.fi>
what are the programs to take video clips using NeXT Dimensionboard?
--
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///// WasaWare Oy Ab, Palosaarentie 23-25, FIN-65200 Vaasa, Finland
///// Telephone: +358 61 317 3365 fax: +358 61 317 3025
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: aalto@nmt.edu (Eugene Aalto)
Subject: Whats different between NS 3.0 and 3.2/3.3
Message-ID: <1995Jan25.010035.15022@nmt.edu>
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 01:00:35 GMT
I recently bought some black hardware (a mono 25MHz '040, and a 25MHz
'030 that i will be running with a terminal).
The '040 has a minimal install of NS 3.2 on its 105 mb HD. I also
have the CD of the developers version of NS 3.0.
I am wondering what the differences between NS 3.0 and 3.2 are. Should
I install 3.0 on my 2.1gb hard drive, and just use it because it is
the full developers release, should i continue to boot the '040 off of
3.2 but use the 3.0 utilities that i dont have for 3.2, or is there a
big enough difference, enough bugs, etc, that I should start looking
around for a copy of NS 3.2 or 3.3.
Also, I am setting up a local network with these machines. I am
planning to use one of the two NeXT's as the file server (it will get
the 2.1gb drive). The network will consist of 3 pc's running DOS,
os/2, or Linux, and the two NeXT's. I will also have a slip connection
at 14.4kbps from one of the NeXT's to the net.
My Question is, which of the next's should i use as a file server for
best performance. I am thinking that i might use the 25 mhz '030 as a
file server, because it is running from a terminal, and will not have
much usage at all. Not having to display graphics, and have
interactive usage should keep the load quite low on it. Both the
NeXT's have 8mb, but i could expand the '030 to 16mb.
Thanks,
Eugene Aalto
aalto@nmt.edu
From: ucc40@Rosie.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextStep books
Date: 27 Jan 1995 18:01:13 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <3gbcd9$luh@masala.cc.uh.edu>
I am looking for NextStep Object Oriented Programming book. Normal
distribution channels are out as Addison... nolonger publishes. If
anyone has such for 3.0, please contact Robert: (713) 274-4575.
thanks
From: drinke@wc187.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help on a PPP Server!!!
Date: 27 Jan 1995 18:24:45 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3gbdpd$rtr@mordred.gatech.edu>
References: <3g91vl$33f@romulus.ucs.uoknor.edu>
Joel A. Bussey (Joel-Bussey@uoknor.edu) wrote:
: I could use some help on deciding what to do in this situation:
: We are directly connected to the internet via the University. I have a
: NEXTSTEP workstation directly connected to the internet through
: ethernet. I want to be able to access the internet from home via PPP
: running on the NEXSTEP station. Does anyone have any suggestions as to
: what server I should run on the NEXTSTEP station? Is there one that is
: free that I could use?
Check out ftp://keen.ccit.duq.edu:/pub/next/ppp directory.. make sure you
read the README file for details
If your University is like mine, they tend to frown upon proxy-arp packets
and the like (Tech is very tight on net security).... make sure you talk to
your net admin.
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
.forward -> drinke@wc187.residence.gatech.edu -- Until 3/18/95
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need help with TransSys PNI-slip
Date: 28 Jan 1995 04:23:53 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <3gcgsp$3b1@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Hi, once again I turn to the Internet in hopes of finding a solution
to my problem. (computer related problems, no personal ones)
I have installed TransSys PNI on my system and I was hoping to connect
to the university of Maryland Computer clusters. I was cheap so I
didn't pay for the private lines, but only the cheap version where I
have to fight for a line and get dynamically allocated IP address. To
begin with, I's not certina how the Ip addresses would be allocated,
should I reset my own IP address to at least match the site cluster
address of the UMD systems, and then just use a mask somehow to use
the I dynamically allocated to me as I get connected? I, in my state
of severe confusion renamed the config file config-auto, so now it
loads automatically, but I get a bunch of wonderful messages, can
someone llok at these wonderful messages and tell me what else I've
done wrong? thanks, maybe oneday I can return the favor for all the
help I've received over the net.
begin console log....
Software Version 3.2 (Thunder5S)
probing for DOS
probing for CDROM
looking for block 0 label
probing for DOS
Jan 27 14:54:07 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /no_name
looking for block 0 label
probing for DOS
Filesystem name: DOS
mount: /dev/rsd1h on /no_name_2: Device busy
mount: giving up on:
/no_name_2
Jan 27 14:54:14 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: tty: recvChars: timeout
waiting for ready
Jan 27 14:54:14 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: TTY tty: Login to 403-4333
with annex failed waiting for password prompt
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: tty: link connect script
fails
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: tty: link connect script
fails
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: === TCL Error: Connect
script failed to establish link:
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: === TCL Error: Connect
script failed to establish link:
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > TTY tty: Could not
establish connection - all attempts failed
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > TTY tty: Could not
establish connection - all attempts failed
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: === errorCode
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: === errorCode
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > NONE
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > NONE
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: === errorInfo
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: === errorInfo
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > TTY tty: Could not
establish connection - all attempts failed
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > TTY tty: Could not
establish connection - all attempts failed
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > while executing
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > while executing
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > "error "[$encapName
encapType] [$encapName encapName]: Could not establish connection -
all attempts failed""
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > "error "[$encapName
encapType] [$encapName encapName]: Could not establish connection -
all attempts failed""
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > invoked from within
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > invoked from within
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > "if {$connected==0} {
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > "if {$connected==0} {
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > ^Ierror "[$encapName
encapType] [$encapName encapName]: Could not establish connection -
all attempts failed"
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > ^Ierror "[$encapName
encapType] [$encapName encapName]: Could not establish connection -
all attempts failed"
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > }"
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > }"
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > (procedure
"dialer_connect" line 52)
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > (procedure
"dialer_connect" line 52)
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > invoked from within
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > invoked from within
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > "dialer_connect tty
dialer"
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: > "dialer_connect tty
dialer"
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: === [end error dump]
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: === [end error dump]
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: tty: error 1 starting
encapsulator (ERROR)
Jan 27 14:54:16 veakbladder pnid-pni0[215]: (Error initializing
encapsulator tty during phase2 initialization)
Jan 27 14:54:22 veakbladder WM[221]: DPS client library error:
PostScript program error, DPSContext b2e6c
Jan 27 14:54:23 veakbladder WM[221]: %%[ Error: syntaxerror;
OffendingCommand: bin obj seq, type=129, elements=1, size=12, name
string out of bounds ]%%
Jan 27 14:54:23 Workspace: Controller exited.
Jan 27 14:54:23 veakbladder WindowServer[202]: IPCFlushOutput: failed
to flush output for stream 0x553360.
Jan 27 14:54:41 Workspace: Unmounted foreign disk at /no_name
Software Version 3.2 (Thunder5S)
probing for DOS
probing for CDROM
looking for block 0 label
probing for DOS
Jan 27 14:55:00 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /no_name
looking for block 0 label
probing for DOS
Filesystem name: DOS
mount: /dev/rsd1h on /no_name_2: Device busy
mount: giving up on:
/no_name_2
Jan 27 14:59:28 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: Modem returned ERROR
setting S42.1=0
Jan 27 14:59:28 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: Modem returned ERROR
setting S38.3=1
Jan 27 14:59:28 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: Modem returned ERROR
setting S38.5=1
Jan 27 14:59:29 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: Modem returned ERROR
setting S46.2=1
Jan 27 14:59:30 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: Modem returned ERROR
setting &N0
Jan 27 14:59:31 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: Modem returned ERROR
setting X5
Jan 27 14:59:31 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: Modem returned ERROR
setting &H3
Jan 27 15:00:18 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: tty: recvChars: timeout
waiting for ready
Jan 27 15:00:18 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: TTY tty: Call to 403-4333
failed: Timeout waiting for modem to connect to 403-4333
Jan 27 15:00:19 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: tty: link connect script
fails
Jan 27 15:00:19 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: tty: link connect script
fails
Jan 27 15:00:19 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: === TCL Error: Connect
script failed to establish link:
Jan 27 15:00:19 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: === TCL Error: Connect
script failed to establish link:
Jan 27 15:00:19 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: > TTY tty: Could not
establish connection - all attempts failed
Jan 27 15:00:19 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: > TTY tty: Could not
establish connection - all attempts failed
Jan 27 15:00:19 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: === errorCode
Jan 27 15:00:19 veakbladder pnid-pni0[286]: === errorCode
[ad nausium]
end console log
--
David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu
Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering
Apprentice Tinker,Basement network administrator.
NSFIP/WARP/DOS
From: rueiwun@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ruei-wun Tu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [REPOST]:Problem with installing GNU Smalltalk-1.1.1???
Date: 29 Jan 1995 22:02:12 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Unix Users Group
Message-ID: <3gh394$qdc@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Hello,
I try to build Smalltalk-1.1.1 for my Intel NeXT running NeXTStep 3.2.
I followed the installation guide and kind of successfully building it
(except a couple of warning messages). However, when I try to do "mst
-V" to build all the funcations, I failed. The followings are the error
message shown on my terminal. Hope someone in this group can help me to
solve it.
====================================================================
Processing CFuncs.st
"CFuncs.st", line 44: Bus Error
Object class>>#isVariable
Object class>>#variableSubclass:instanceVariableNames:classVariableNames:poolDictionaries:category:
UndefinedObject>>#executeStatements
UndefinedObject>>nil
====================================================================
Please E-mail me your suggestions. Thanks in advance!!!
Rueiwun Tu
rueiwun@gas.uug.arizona.edu
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From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Port of NS for Alpha?
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3g80go$8af@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 23:37:54 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Jan29.233754.20031@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3g80go$8af@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
> It's not just rumour. DEC and NeXT made an announcement late last year
that
> DEC is going to port NeXTSTEP to the Alpha Chip. That's a fact. (
OpenStep, not NeXTSTEP. And, as you say, Digital don't seem to be in a
rush to do it. I understand (from contacts in Digital) that the port
might be worked on in Italy.
Paul
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Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
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From: gmd@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Subject: disabling memory at boot
Message-ID: <D3660q.II@hazel.north.de>
Keywords: memory, boot
Sender: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann)
Organization: Great Mathematical Developments, Inc.
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 13:41:12 GMT
I would like to measure the performance of my NeXT cube with different
amounts of RAM, without physically removing SIMMs.
I dimly remember that there is a boot command which sets the amount of
memory to be used, but I am unable to find any information about this.
Can anybody help me? Where can I find a list of all valid kernel flags
(used in the boot command) for a NeXT ROM Monitor 2.4 v65 ?
Thank you very much for your kind assistance.
Gerriet.
From: mjones01@interserv.com (Matthew Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help! Mail in 3.3 not resolving...
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 03:10:25 -0700
Organization: M.C.R. Labs
Message-ID: <mjones01-2901950310250001@stk6_p3.sprint.dialup.net>
Hmm...
My mail app isn't resolving. Everything else works great, but when I send
a message, it comes back in a minute with a bad host message
(authoritative answer from name server)
Again, I can resolve everything else just fine...
Any ideas?
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| mjones01@interserv.com |
\------------------------/
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From: charmides!bubi (Burghard W.V.Britzke)
Subject: Icon.app on NS3.1
Message-ID: <D36MxC.62@charmides.in-Berlin.DE>
Sender: bubi@charmides.in-Berlin.DE (Burghard W.V.Britzke)
Organization: BeNG - Berliner NeXTnutzer Gruppe
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 19:46:24 GMT
Every time when I start my Icon.app, it writes the following
on the console and stopps:
Jan 29 20:42:35 charmides Icon[191]: Pasteboard lookup failed on host
charmides: (Netnameserver: name not checked in)
Jan 29 20:42:36 charmides last message repeated 12 times
Jan 29 20:42:36 charmides Icon[191]: Invalid default font name: Helvetica
Jan 29 20:42:36 charmides Icon[191]: Pasteboard lookup failed on host
charmides: (Netnameserver: name not checked in)
(I installed the 2.1 shared libs and patched them)
der Burghard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Advise on Wacom UD-1212/etc Tablet
Message-ID: <D36KCp.2Hr@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Summary: Need help selection Digital Tablet for black hardware
Keywords: Wacom
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 18:50:49 GMT
I would like to purchase a digital tablet compatible with a NeXT Cube.
My preference is the Wacom UD1212. My condern is that the documentation
associated with InstallTablet, although endorsing a 12-by- 12 inch format
and mentioning Wacom by name, refers to SD-xxx model numbers rather than
UDxxxx model numbers.
Questions:
o Is the UD1212 compatible with InstallTablet.app?
o Does one select the Macintosh (UD-121-RM) or the DOS (UD-1212-RP)
model?
If these are not compatible, what is a acceptable alternative?
Thanks for your help.
--Tim
--
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tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
|Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Port of NS for Alpha?
Date: 30 Jan 1995 14:10:12 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3gis04$260@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <MAGNUS.95Jan28000412@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk>
Keywords: DEC, Alpha, NS
Magnus Nordborg writes
> In article <3g80go$8af@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
>
> It's not just rumour. DEC and NeXT made an announcement late last
> year that DEC is going to port NeXTSTEP to the Alpha Chip. That's
> a fact. (
>
> No, it isn't. The announcement concerned OpenStep which is indeed
> supposed to be ported to OSF/Alpha.
> --
Ooops, that's right and I was wrong; OpenStep, not NeXTStep. Anyways, like
stated before, that may take quite a while. Looks like they still consider Win
NT more important.
> Magnus Nordborg
> Department of Ecology and Evolution
> The University of Chicago
> Temporary address:
> magnus@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger)
So long,
Rainer.
-------------------------------
"NULL" rainer@picard.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: joakim@pp2.smc.south.telia.se (Joakim Holgersson)
Subject: HELP: Software for strategic planning.
Message-ID: <1995Jan29.224259.4507@palantir.p.tvt.se>
Sender: news@palantir.p.tvt.se (News account)
Organization: Swedish Telecom
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 22:42:59 GMT
Hi, a frend nead help. If you can help them please e-mail to me.
Thanks. / joakim@pp2.smc.south.telia.se
(Please youse the word "SOFT WARE" as subjekt.)
Software applications for strategic planning
We are two students at the Department of Business Administration
at Lund University in Sweden, that are writing our masters thesis.
The thesis will focus on software applications for strategic planning.
The paper will try to identify the differences between different types
of programs,and how companies use them.
Our biggest problem at this point is to identify end users of this kind
of software. Without them we will not be able to answer the central
question in our paper "How companies use them and how they
contribute to the planning process the company"
We are interested to get in contact with people that have experience
of this kind of software.
The software that we are specially interested in are "Business Insight"
and "Ansplan" (by Ansoff). We are also interested in people with
experience of software like "Smartplan" "Competitive Advantage",
"Adiva Decide & Manage", "Alacrity Strategy", "Markstrat" and
"Checkmate".
Al information will be confidentially handled.
People involved in the project will naturally be informed about the
thesis findings
Best regards
Per Hallgern and Magnus Holm
From: "James S. Pickens" <jpickens@zsmg.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP To MS Windows by Zonics, Inc.
Date: 29 Jan 1995 22:56:31 GMT
Organization: DSC/Voicenet - BBS/Unix Shells/SLIP/NEWS - (215)443-7390
Message-ID: <3gh6ev$67f@nova.voicenet.com>
Zonics System Management Group, Inc. (ZSMG), A Philadelphia, PA company
is currently looking for NeXTStep trained individuals to place on mission critical
application development projects in fortune 1000 companies.
ZSMG has developed a product called the Object Document for cross development
and deployment of applications. In its current version it allows our customers
to assemble, build, run and debug applications under NeXTStep and deploy these
applications on MS Windows. Developers are also being recruited to assist in
the expansion of the supported development and deployment platforms.
The Object Document and related family of products are currently being
finalized for initial release. They will be publicly available in 1995 and
marketed by Objectware, Inc. a PA based company.
This document is not a press release for a new product, we are
recruiting senior level project managers and developer of various levels that
have the skill set to work in this new development strategy.
Please respond with resumes and compensation requirements to
James S. Pickens in any one of the following ways:
E-Mail: (NeXTMail or Other) to
jpickens@zsmg.com
Fax: (610) 337-9795
Mail: Zonics System Management
c/o James S. Pickens
The Zonics Building
1015 West 9th Avenue
King of Prussia, PA 19604
Please, No Phone solicitations.
Thanks You,
James S. Pickens
P.S. Please feel free to circulate and forward this mail message to
any interested groups or parties.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: Re: Edit.app and its Find Panel
Message-ID: <1995Jan30.114427.10236@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
References: <gj-2501952243190001@gj.irock.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 11:44:27 GMT
In article <gj-2501952243190001@gj.irock.com> gj@irock.com ("G. J.")
writes:
> In article <9501250742.AA08436@tpts1.seed.net.tw>,
> idpt633@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_user) wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Find panel in Edit.app suddenly would not appear after "command-f".
> > Has anyone experienced the same situation before?
> >
> I experienced this too, the very first time I tried it. What's wrong?
> I'm running NSFIP 3.3.
Did you switched to 'Developer Mode'? See 'Info->Preferences (User
Options)'. After switching quit and start Edit again.
Robert.
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From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: PPP NS => NS Working! (But "ping" problem)
Message-ID: <D36zoK.15u@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 00:21:56 GMT
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 95 17:31:34 GMT-0500
From: damonc (To: hookup!perkins%cps.msu.edu)
To: hookup!perkins%cps.msu.edu
I got PPP NS=>NS over modem WORKING! The problem was lurking in my
/etc/gettytab file on the receiving (answering) machine:
# NXFax dialup on port B
NXFaxB:ap:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach / NXFax (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:sp#38400:
and the line speed requested in the "ppp.remote" script was 57600. I
don't understand why NXFax entered "38400" in the gettytab of the one
machine and "57600" in the gettytab of the sending (calling) machine, but
I'm just sorry I didn't discover this earlier...I was beginning to digress
into the investigation of tty innards. Both machines have dual 16550 FIFO
UART's.
Replacing the "38400" in /etc/gettytab and "ppp.remote" with "57600"
results in the machine answering the phone, but no "login:" is visible.
Leaving gettytab alone at "38400" and setting the requested speed in
"ppp.remote" to "38400" allows the calling machine (talking to it's serial
port at 57600) to negotiate with the answring pppd daemon.
Whew!
Unfortunately, I have moved from one problem to the next...after the
pppd's complete negotiation and the defaultroute is in place at both ends,
I can only ping (using IP address) the answering machine.
No other machine on the network of the answering machine can be pinged.
I realize that name resolution relies on being able to get to the
resolving machine by IP address (in /etc/resolv.conf) so I need to be able
to ping the name resolver machine before resolution works.
Has anybody had this problem and beat it (or just have a suggestion)?
The "calling" machine has no network card, just a modem; the "answering"
machine has modem and is connected to a network.
Mucho appreciated.
---
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
--
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: Kernel Panics with 3.2 + Parallel Port 1.1 + PPP?
Message-ID: <D36zsq.16L@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 00:24:26 GMT
I have been experiencing kernel panics on NS (Intel) 3.2 when using
PPP 2.2.0.1.8 (patch level 2 and below) and the Parallel Port 1.1 driver
from Christian Starkjohann <cs@ecs.co.at>...
Happens whether or not the PPP link is up (driver just has to be
loaded)...
I can print about 1-2 pages (aproximately 1/3 of a 141K data file (PCL
printer codes) before I get a
==========================================
"Kernal Trap"
Failed instruction exception (2,d,150000)
Waiting for remote debugger connection.
(Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot)
==========================================
If I remove the PPP driver, the kernel traps _almost_ disappear altogether
(once every 10-20 LARGE print jobs).
Anybody else experienced this? Is there a workaround? (The drivers from
NeXT don't work at ALL...)
Thanks in advance,
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
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damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can NS3.3 be installed on an '030 cube?
Date: 29 Jan 1995 20:46:28 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ggur4$a9j@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <simsong-2801951803560001@mac.pleasant.cambridge.ma.us>
In article <simsong-2801951803560001@mac.pleasant.cambridge.ma.us>
simsong@pleasant.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes:
> Sure thing, but I wouldn't. Basically, you don't really get acceptable
> performance on an '030 cube with anything over NeXTSTEP 2.0.
2.0 had some bad bugs. If you want to stay at that level,
you should run 2.1. You know, the performance version of
NeXTSTEP ;-)
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Locus.app fails to autolaunch
Date: 3 Feb 1995 06:38:48 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gsj1o$lfj@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Well... I finally downgraded to 3.2 from 3.3. PCI Video performance was
just too poor.
However, now I have run into a problem. I have been using Locus.app for
quite a while. Love the package. But after the downgrade (OK, reinstall
from scratch), Locus.app refuses to autolaunch. During login, the icon
greys out, but then it returns to the dead state (three dots). If I
manually double click on it, things work fine.
I went through and removed all the apps that I autolaunched (actually just
changed their autolauch setting) but that didn't help. I own all files
(so I don't belive it is a permission/ownership thing).
Any ideas what may be causing this behavior?
All thoughts sincerely appreciated.
TIA,
Steve
--
==================================================================
Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Department of Computer Science |
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.2 using PPP-2.2
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Using NeXT as a router?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 3 Feb 1995 02:58:53 +0200
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Sender: otto@tukki.cc.jyu.fi
Message-ID: <OTTO.95Feb3025851@tukki.jyu.fi>
What do I need to do to get my NeXTstation to start routing traffic
from the local ethernet to a PPP serial port and back? Please reply
by email, I'll summarize if there is wider interest.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Date: 3 Feb 1995 02:40:55 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gsmm7$le0@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3gsh2b$1eka@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Stephen J. Perkins writes
> In article <3gsfa7$g95@shell1.best.com> kevin@mcnmc.com (Kevin McDonnell)
> writes:
> >
> > I just reset the clock on my cube and used OmniWeb to get the latest
> > copy 0.9.2. The URL is
> > ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/Incoming/OmniWeb-0.9.2.app.tar.gz
> >
>
> I also pulled this over. Nice piece of work. However, I was
> unable to get the new OmniImage.app or OmniImageFilter
> service. They came across fine (using FTP) but I was unable
> to get the installer to install them. The installer
> complained of a bad checksum on the tar file inside the .pkg.
>
> Anybody get these other packages to install successfully?
>
The installer package is munched
You need to uncompress the .tar.Z in the package manually, and then use
/NextAdmin/Installer/installer_bigtar -xvof OmniImage.pkg/OmniImage.tar
same with the image filters...
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: Donald E McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Boot0 problem
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 19:57:29 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950202194437.20068A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I have a dual boot system. I have NS/I on a 1GB drive. On another (550
MB) drive I have a DOS partition and a (7MB) NS-boot-partition. While
installing NS3.3, I managed to do something to the NS-boot-partition.
Now I get "Missing OS" when I try a normal boot. I have to boot to NS
or DOS using the floppy drive. I'd appreciate any advice about what the
"Missing OS" message means and advice on how to restore the normal boot
process. (I get the normal "n for NEXTSTEP d for DOS" prompt; but if I
key anything or just leave it alone, I immediately get the "Missing OS"
message.)
Thanks
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: Donald E McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs(4.0?) and NS3.3
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 22:01:29 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950202214955.20357B-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
What needs to be done to get Emacs.app working (at the command line) in
NS3.3. If I type "emacs -nw", I get a "bus error" response. Also some
^(whatever's) seem to produce bus errors. I tried just "emacs" in
co-Xist and also bombs (it used to bring up the X-version of emacs. Is
this a co-Xist problem?) Clicking on the Emacs icon seems to work - at
least on the survace.
I am running version 19.28.1 compiled in NS3.2.
Any advice?
Thanks.
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Most Pictures won't display in OmniWeb
Date: 3 Feb 1995 19:15:29 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3gtvch$9bj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi everyone.
I have a problem with OmniWeb which doesn't show me all pictures.
Instead I get messages on console which say:
/tmp/sgi-logo.gif: GIF file has wrong magic number
TIFF Error: Cannot read TIFF.
etc...
I have installed Version 3.1 of OmniImageFilterServices, but
it doesn't seem to know about some special gif formats.
Has anybody had the same experience?
Axel
--
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Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o(
D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | /
Fon: +49 30 4542296 (privat) 030 314 23 281 (uni) \~/
From: jch@old-cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 0.9.1
Date: 3 Feb 1995 19:30:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <3gu08i$8p1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <J.M.FIGUEROA.95Feb2224820@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk> <3gsdik$f4v@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
What happened to the help file in OmniWeb 0.9.1. There was a big Help.store
in the previous version; but in the new version, it's just the defalut stub.
Is that an oversight?
John
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Date: 3 Feb 1995 03:57:21 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <3gs9j1$ggk@news.cerf.net>
References: <3go922$93l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <3go922$93l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon
Haveman) writes:
> OmniWeb.app can be found at:
>
> ftp.omnigroup.com
It can?
ftp -n ftp.omnigroup.com
ftp.omnigroup.com: unknown host
and...
ftp -n omnigroup.com
ftp: connect: Host is unreachable
Any other ideas? My copy of OmniWeb expired...
--
Gordon Van Huizen
Metrosoft gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dial-on-demand PPP for NeXT (black)?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 3 Feb 1995 23:33:07 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3guefj$dnm@news.tamu.edu>
Keywords: PPP
I'd appreciate e-mail pointers to dial-on-demand PPP (PD or commercial)
for NeXT (black) hardware. THanks!
--
Walter C. Daugherity Dept. of Computer Science
Internet,NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University
uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station,TX 77843-3112
---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: otto@coactive.com (Otto Lind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3gs1j0$h9i@disc.coactive.com>
Control: cancel <3gs1j0$h9i@disc.coactive.com>
Date: 3 Feb 1995 07:27:52 GMT
Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc.
Message-ID: <3gslto$iqu@disc.coactive.com>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL1]
From: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (Gabor Freivogel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Question about WACOM tablets
Date: 3 Feb 1995 18:37:57 GMT
Organization: University of Kassel - Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gtt65$k1o@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de>
References: <1995Feb2.190716.13725@MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM>
In article <1995Feb2.190716.13725@MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM>
lemke@mitl.MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM (Kennedy Lemke) writes:
> Hello--
>
> I have a question of a similar nature to a question that was
> asked here recently; I hope someone can help...
>
> We have several NeXT machines, some of which have WACOM tablets
> attached to them--the model number of the WACOM tablets that
> work with these nexts is "SD-402E".
>
> Questions: (1) can anyone confirm that the newer WACOM tablets with
> model numbers starting with "UD-" do or do not work with NeXT
> hardware? (2) Is it possible that a release of NeXTOS later than
> 3.2 will have a new "InstallTablet" program that will work with
> these tablets? (3) Or, similarly, is there a newer version of the
> "InstallTablet" program that will run and install the tablet correctly
> under NeXTOS 3.0? If the answer is "yes" to question 3, that would
> be optimal for me, and a pointer to the new program would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Kennedy Lemke
> __ _______________ Computer Systems Manager
> / |/ / _/_ __/ / Postmaster && News administrator
> / /|_/ // / / / / / Matsushita Information Technology
Laboratory
> / / / // / / / / /___ Panasonic Technologies, Inc.
> /_/ /_/___/ /_/ /_____/ 2 Research Way
> Work Phone: (609) 734-7329 Princeton, New Jersey 08540-6628
> Fax: (609) 987-8827 Email: lemke@Research.Panasonic.COM
I am using an UD 1212 whit the next driver however it only supports the
relative mode. Absolute and digitizer mode does not work at all...
The tablett has to be switched in wacomII mode. In this case everything
works (in relative mode). The pressure sensitivity works for me as well.
I wrote some bug reports to next last year but they didn`t even care...
Maybe it would be helpful if you send them some complaints as well...
Please inform me if you know a solution..
Gabor
--
Gabor Freivogel
GhK- University of Kassel/ Germany
Dept. of Architecture
Henschelstr. 2
34109 Kassel
Germany
E-mail: gabor@architektur.uni-kassel.de (nextmail)
Phone : +49 561 804 3506
Fax +49 561 804 3775
From: gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Gregory W. Gee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Floppy disk formating ?????
Date: 3 Feb 1995 16:25:45 GMT
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Sender: gee@obelix (Gregory W. Gee)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gtle9$8ao@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
Are there any plans on upgrading the ist of floppies that black
hardware can read.
DD HD ED
DOS x x ?
NeXT x x x
MAC x ? ?
When are the missing holes going to be filled in? This hasn't changed
in a long time.
Thanks.
--
****************************************************************************
Greg Gee The G-Man gee@csd.uwo.ca
Honours Computer Science, gee@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario gee@syslab.csd.uwo.ca
>>> Developing in the NeXT generation <<< NeXT Mail accepted
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/mandas/uwo/members/gee/
****************************************************************************
From: anstine@sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb/Logout problems
Date: 2 Feb 1995 20:26:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <3grf5q$j68@netnews.upenn.edu>
I've noticed that OmniWeb 0.9.1 does not properly exit when one logs out.
You must manually select Quit, or else you session is left hanging.
-dave
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Date: 3 Feb 1995 17:00:25 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gtnf9$ne1@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3gsmm7$le0@digifix.digifix.com>
In article <3gsmm7$le0@digifix.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
->Stephen J. Perkins writes
->> In article <3gsfa7$g95@shell1.best.com> kevin@mcnmc.com (Kevin
McDonnell)
->> writes:
->> >
->> > I just reset the clock on my cube and used OmniWeb to get the
latest
->> > copy 0.9.2. The URL is
->> > ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/Incoming/OmniWeb-0.9.2.app.tar.gz
->> >
->>
->> I also pulled this over. Nice piece of work. However, I was
->> unable to get the new OmniImage.app or OmniImageFilter
->> service. They came across fine (using FTP) but I was unable
->> to get the installer to install them. The installer
->> complained of a bad checksum on the tar file inside the .pkg.
->>
->> Anybody get these other packages to install successfully?
->>
->
-> The installer package is munched
->
-> You need to uncompress the .tar.Z in the package manually, and
then use
->
->/NextAdmin/Installer/installer_bigtar -xvof OmniImage.pkg/OmniImage.tar
->
-> same with the image filters...
->
I managed to install them without any problems, although I had to
tell Installer.app to put them in their respective .app and
service folder wrappers. Otherwise they'll just unpack and leave
their innards scattered all over /LocalApps and /LocalLibrary/Services.
Eugene
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: soward@pop.uky.edu (John Soward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Image processing system...
Date: 2 Feb 1995 21:12:05 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky Computing Services
Message-ID: <3grhr5$n5s@service1.uky.edu>
References: <3g81np$cp3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3g81np$cp3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> Steve Spicklemire (steve@estel.uindy.edu) wrote:
>
> : I have an opportunity to recommend a system for developing new
> : software for an image processing application. I'm not talking
> : about another PhotoShop.... the problem is more like: how do you
> : batch process 1500 tiffs, doing math (background subtraction,
> : gain masking), image processing (cropping, panning, zooming,
> : color correction), and (possibly) Other Neat Stuff (tm), without
> : losing track of where everything is, and what is happening, and
> : make it a pleasant experience for the poor slob at the controls.
> An HP 712/60 (if you can afford /80) and TIFFany 2.2x is an ideal
> solution for all kinds of image processing, including batched processes.
I'd certainly say this sounds like a TIFFany job...and I think an HP would be
the best choice, over a Pentium, because of the superior Floating Point
performance...Although a 712 would *not* be the best choice, because it doesn't
support (real) 24bit color which will most certainly be needed for professional
image processing. If you spend the money and get a 735/125 with the 24bit
graphics and plenty of RAM, you'll have a respectable professional image
processing station.
---
John Soward 'The Midnight Sun will burn you up'
University of Kentucky -the Cure, Piggy in the Mirror.
soward@pop.uky.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: TranSys PNI pnid Script
Message-ID: <D3GGrE.C6n@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 03:09:13 GMT
Has anyone a clue what the following message means?
"Unknown UNIX error: /dev/pni0 EACCES
/etc/pni/pnirun: /etc/pni/pnid: cannot execute"
Since this is an sh script, and I usually am in tcsh, I "shelled" into
sh, yet fared no better.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: beebb@spine.med.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Date: 3 Feb 1995 18:39:14 GMT
Organization: What, me organized?
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gtt8i$h4o@alpha.epas.utoronto.ca>
References: <3gsfa7$g95@shell1.best.com> <3gsh2b$1eka@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In article <3gsh2b$1eka@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu writes:
[munch]
>Anybody get these other packages to install successfully?
>
>- Steve
I too had the same problem. I sent mail to Wil Shipley (sp?) of
Omnigroup, and he kindly and quickly responded that they knew of the
problem and it will be fixed. I guess we'll just have to watch
ftp.cs.orst.edu.
Thanks, OmniGroup, great stuff, and thanks for keeping the single user
mode free!
Brian
Do you know the muffin man? | brian@spine.med.utoronto.ca
Plus ca change, Plus cest la | beebb@camtwh.eric.on.ca
meme chose. | brian@borgship.eric.on.ca NeXT/MIME
Mail
Standard disclaimers. | http://borgship.eric.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Howland_Royce@pcp.ca (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Message-ID: <1995Feb3.183917.8474@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
References: <3gs9j1$ggk@news.cerf.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 95 18:39:17 GMT
In article <3gs9j1$ggk@news.cerf.net> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van
Huizen) writes:
> [...]
> ftp -n ftp.omnigroup.com
> ftp.omnigroup.com: unknown host
> [...]
> Any other ideas? My copy of OmniWeb expired...
The above problem is something I've seen before. Omni just seems to drop
off the Net every now and then. Sometimes one of their services (ftp or
www) will be up and not the other. Just keep trying and they'll
eventually be back.
As others have said, however, new versions of OmniWeb and the related apps
have been posted to ftp.cs.orst.edu.
It's interesting to see Lighthouse in the OmniWeb info panel, now. Omni
Development no longers appears, except for their stylized OMNI logo. It
kind of looks like Lighthouse has acquired the commercial rights to the
app.
--
Royce Howland, Object Systems Group (403-264-5840 voice, 403-264-1470 fax)
howlandr@cadvision.com (home, NeXTmail OK)
Howland_Royce@pcp.ca (PanCanadian Petroleum, NeXTmail OK, 403-268-6503)
I speak, but not necessarily for OSG or PCP.
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb 0.9.1 problem saving bookmarks
Date: 2 Feb 1995 23:48:26 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu>
I just grabbed OmniWeb 0.9.1. I removed the previous version before
installing it. But somehow, I can't seem to save the current page to
my personal bookmark in ~/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html. I get the
following error:
Could not open file <garbage>.
Anyone else experiencing this?
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Jon Doroin | I've taken the NeXTSTEP
doroin@cobber.cord.edu | Plan 9 on a NeXTstation
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX Fonts
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 1995 11:29:40 -0700
Organization: Trilithon Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <henry-0302951129400001@trilithon.com>
References: <3gpag4$ahn@mark.ucdavis.edu>
In article <3gpag4$ahn@mark.ucdavis.edu>, dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David
Bradford) wrote:
* I am looking for more fonts which will work with
*
* the version of TeX which runs under NeXTStep.
Try talking to the people at Y&Y Software---they're Tex wizards.
Y&Y, Inc.
Tuttle's Livery, Suite #2F
45 Walden Street
Concord
Massachusetts 01742
(800) 742-4059
(508) 371-3286
(508) 371-2004 (FAX)
........ Henry
From: danno@maui.com (Dan Bigelow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can NS3.3 be installed on an '030 cube?
Date: 2 Feb 1995 18:16:22 GMT
Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center
Sender: danno@waena.mrtc.maui.com.
Message-ID: <3gr7hm$nb5@lawelawe-f0.mrtc.maui.com>
References: <3g30u8$h4s@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
<simsong-2801951803560001@mac.pleasant.cambridge.ma.us>
Simpson wrote
>In article <3g30u8$h4s@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon
Haveman) wrote:
>
>> Basically, can an old cube hurdle all the way up the
>> upgrade path? If not, what is the last version of the
>> OS that will work?
>>
>
>Sure thing, but I wouldn't. Basically, you don't really get acceptable
>performance on an '030 cube with anything over NeXTSTEP 2.0. That's
>becuase on '040 hardware you want to save memory and spend cycles for
>optimal performance, whereas with an '030 system you want to save cycles
>and spend memory.
2.0 or 2.x ? When did they start to optimize for the 040? I'm
considering
downgrading back to 2.1 on an 030 cuz old things keep breaking as I
upgrade...
I must be getting older, yet somehow no richer... (NS on HP RSN... %^)
thnx,
--danno
From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cassandra Updates?
Date: 3 Feb 1995 23:27:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gue44$asl@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Hello,
Is anyone else still using Cassandra? Anybody interested in
maintaining the source code? I had somebody at JPL send me a bug fix,
and I was wondering whether it was worth it to put it in.
Talk to me,
-- Ernie P.
--
Ernest N. Prabhakar, President, NEXTSTEP/OpenStep User Groups Intnl.
http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest/Home.htmd NeXT:ernest@caltech.edu
"...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b
"I speak for myself, and often for 'nugi', but never for Caltech."
From: Patrick Stein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 0.9.1 problem saving bookmarks
Date: 4 Feb 1995 14:33:47 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3h038b$fat@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu>
In article <3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) writes:
>
> I just grabbed OmniWeb 0.9.1. I removed the previous version before
> installing it. But somehow, I can't seem to save the current page to
> my personal bookmark in ~/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html. I get the
> following error:
> Could not open file <garbage>.
> Anyone else experiencing this?
It appears to be a HP ( sun too ? ) problem , cause if I use it with my good old slab
the bookmarks just work.
I just Yftp'ed version 0.9.3 which solved that problem - at least for me.
---
so long - jolly
===================================================================
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office : ++49 +89 -211 06 70 Centrum fuer Informations
private: ++49 +89 -950 57 34 und Sprachverarbeitung der
Ludwig-Maximilians Universitaet Muenchen
===================================================================
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Conclusion : At every instant there is a non-zero pro-
bability of the lion being in the cage.
Sit and wait. - a'la schroedinger
===================================================================
From: burns@bellcore.com (James E. Burns)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep 3.3
Date: 2 Feb 95 16:31:34
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <BURNS.95Feb2163134@nova.bellcore.com>
I've been a comp.sys.next.* dropout for a good while now (about a year).
Recently, I dropped in for a visit and saw some posts about NeXTStep 3.3.
I seem to recall when I bought the upgrade to 3.2 Developer (black),
that the 3.3 version would come for free. Does my memory fail me? I
haven't heard anything from NeXT for quite a while (expect for
multiple copies of their conference brochures). Should I try to get
in touch with them?
Also, I saw a reference to a NeXT www page. I would be grateful for a
pointer to it.
Thanks!
jim burns
--
James E. Burns burns@nova.bellcore.com
Bellcore, NVC-3X114 Off: (908) 758-2819
331 Newman Springs Road Fax: (908) 758-4371
Red Bank, NJ 07701-5699, USA Home: (908) 219-6561
From: brockway@u.washington.edu (Jared Brockway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.13 Help Needed
Date: 3 Feb 1995 02:42:46 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3gs576$25i@nntp1.u.washington.edu>
References: <3glnje$4e2@shelob.afs.com>
Keywords: PNI
Is command echoing turned off on your modem? It looks like the
modem is returning an echo of the commands you send instead of
OK messages.
Good luck,
Jared brockway@vnet.ibm.com
--
_______________________________________________________________________________
| "Just another hair in the drain of the || Jared Brockway |
| Internet's vast plumbing system..." || brockway@u.washington.edu |
|_____________________________________________________________________________|
From: wjs@brog.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mosaic on ns3.2?
Date: 3 Feb 1995 08:48:39 -0800
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3gtmp7$bn4@brog.omnigroup.com>
References: <3glmi1$lm7@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu> <3gmch9$fu7@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes:
>Try OmniWeb.app. It is available at:
> ftp.omnigroup.edu
Actually, we're a com, not an edu, and we just moved OmniWeb to
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/software/binaries/wide-area-info
-Wil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty)
Subject: Re: bibliography.app Project
Message-ID: <3guush$gi@beatty.slip.netcom.com>
Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration)
Organization: none
References: <ried.95Feb2183520@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys>
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 04:13:05 GMT
In article <ried.95Feb2183520@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys>
ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE writes:
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> some days ago I posted an article to find out if there's any NeXT
> App for editing bib-Files. As far as I know now there is nothing
> really good.
A very good starting point would be Rich Golding's refdbms distributed
database system. Details can be found at
ftp://ftp.cse.ucsc.edu/pub/refdbms/refdbms.README.html
Now that I'm in industry, I don't have a pressing need of a system like
this, but it was invaluable when I wrote my thesis. I ran it on my NeXT
at home, and on my Decstation (which ran Mach) at school. The database
(~1000 entries) stayed consistent across between the two machines via my
SLIP connection. I only wish it had been as easy to keep my other files
consistent between school and home.
The editing facilities of refdbms are not spectacular, but its search
facilities are excellent. A few years ago I wrote a NeXTstep UI search
frontend for it. I've mailed the source and executable of the frontend to
stef. The search frontend is oriented toward latex and refdbms but it
should be usable with other document formatters and search engines. Good
luck with your project.
--
Derek Beatty
beatty@netcom.com
Austin, Texas
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 0.9.1
Date: 3 Feb 1995 05:05:24 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3gsdik$f4v@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <J.M.FIGUEROA.95Feb2224820@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk>
In article <J.M.FIGUEROA.95Feb2224820@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk>
J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill) writes:
->
->I don't understand the single-user license. I have two independent
->machines which each have their own copy of OmniWeb 0.9.1. Apart from
->their physical proximity, all they have in common are some files (one
->of the machines has a much larger disk drive) which are NFS-mounted.
->Yet, two different users can't run OmniWeb at the same time. Why
->should this be the case?
->
On another note, does this mean we're going to have to pay for
OmniWeb now? I mean, it's not a problem or anything. And the new
version is fabulous. So what's happening with OmniWeb now?
Is it in the hands of Lighthouse? Commercial product?
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: mesnier@michelob.wustl.edu (Phil Mesnier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for historical data grapher
Date: 4 Feb 1995 14:50:45 GMT
Organization: St. Louis Users' Groups
Message-ID: <3h0485$nt4@cerberus-138.wustl.edu>
Can anyone point me towards a graphing package which is able to input binary
or ascii files which contain x,y pairs where the x value is a time_t (a long
integer representing seconds from a time) and the y value being the data at
that time. I want to produce graphs of the data, and have the x-axis labeled
with the time displayed in some reasonable way (mm/dd/yy hh:mm:ss). It needs
to be able to handle spans of a few minutes to 3 months.
I have checked cs.orst.edu and found several graphing packages, but none of
them seem to be able to handle this form of data. I am interested in
shareware or commercial software.
Thanks for any help.
I can receive NeXTmail at: mesniepl@caligula.agedwards.com
--
Phil Mesnier
mesnier@michelob.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Shared Devices
Message-ID: <D3I0J7.5z1@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 23:13:55 GMT
Is it possible to share devices(such as cufb) between two or more
ID's. Specifically for my needs, I'd like to share cufb between my
comm program and SLIP daemon. This would allow me to SLIP on demand
from my comm routine.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Software emulation -is SoftPC worth the $$?
Date: 4 Feb 1995 18:52:45 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3h140d$8oa@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <BJMOHR.95Jan24063914@primavera.mit.edu>
Its up to you to make that decision of wether its worth it or not. But I
will say don't expect SoftPC to run just like it would on a 386 system. It
does also have limitations. When it starts up in Dos mode you only have
about 520 K of conventional Memory available. You won't be able to load
High End Graphics programs. It also is going to take up Disk Space. 13M
just for Windows then you have to increase it depending on what windows
programs youll be running. Another thing thats both a plus and minus. When
using SoftPC you can read and write to the NeXT Partition of your system.
a plus because you can store files in the NeXT partition. A minus because
you can bring a virus into SoftPC and it can effect your NeXT Partition.
My personall Opinion is that if you Buy NeXT Hardware use NeXT Software.
Thats only my opinion.......
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep software for Apple connection
Date: 4 Feb 1995 19:14:20 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h0jmc$jji@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3gth9j$s4e@potogold.rmii.com>
In article <3gth9j$s4e@potogold.rmii.com> dan@opensource.com (Daniel J.
Gamble) writes:
> > connect my NS3.3 Intel machine to an Appletalk network
> Partner and/or uShare by IPT are probably your solution.
Yeah, and last time I checked uShare and uPrint had a combined *student*
price of over $700 (six, eight months ago). This certainly didn't get me
to buy, and now I'm going to go and seriously look at the Apple emulator
when SUN comes and gives a Sparc5 demo at the university in two weeks.
That whole emulator only costs $350 or so for students. IPT's pricing is
unreasonable.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: omniweb that doesn't need reinstalling?
Date: 4 Feb 1995 19:17:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h0js8$m8o@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
What older version number of OmniWeb can I get which doesn't need
reinstalling every few weeks. This is the second time in two months that
I get this annoying message saying "Please get a newer version and delete
this version." It's a pain. I could live with fewer features more easily
that I could live with reinstalling the app every fourth time I use it.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: "Aaron J. Grier" <agrier@reed.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW Browser and new NeXTstep
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:40:53 -0800
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950204173820.12710A-100000@vishnu.reed.edu>
References: <3go922$93l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <3gs9j1$ggk@news.cerf.net> <199502050124.UAA03203@ritz.mordor.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <199502050124.UAA03203@ritz.mordor.com>
On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Steve Borrelli wrote:
> 2.x won't run anything that is designed for 3.1+.
>
> The upgrade to 3.3 (user only) is $199. I recently went from 2.1->3.3.
> A lot of stuff has come out in the past 2.5 years, so you may want to
> browse the archives to see if the new software if worth the upgrade cost.
User only. :-( I work at Reed College and unfortunately NeXT wants
about $300 for EACH NeXT we have to upgrade to NS 3.3. For some reason
they won't sell us a site license either. So basically I'm stuck with
using NS 2.2.
> The only other thing I can tell you is to get MouseX for your system and
> the Version of Mosaic that was compiled for it.
We've got a version of X for the NeXT, and this looks like the only way
to use WWW for now.
----
The Finn / VLA
Aaron J. Grier
agrier@reed.edu (other addresses will be forwarded to this one.)
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MIME mail for NeXT??
Date: 5 Feb 1995 02:05:51 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3h1bpv$1db@rosie.next.com>
References: <1995Feb2.235553.18328@il.us.swissbank.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: makemail 2.5f
In article <1995Feb2.235553.18328@il.us.swissbank.com>,
Ben "Donatello" Kelley <ben@syd.au.swissbank.com> wrote:
>I am in search of a MIME complient mail reader for NeXT. (We have NS 3.2
>here.) I was under the impression that NeXTMail _was_ capable of reading
>MIME mail. Anyone have any clues there??
>
>I have the source for elm. Perhaps my best option is to compile it up for
>NeXT??
The easiest is to upgrate to NEXTSTEP 3.3. 3.3's Mail.app does MIME & NeXTmail.
--Dan
--
Dan Grillo dan_grillo@next.com (415) 780-2963 now in building 1
What profits a man if he gains the world, yet loses his Slack?
From: ernie <ebaca@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP-connection test
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:46:00 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <5eybjMY.ebaca@delphi.com>
I have PPP installed, a service provider, and I have modified files as
described in the installation procedure. I am now trying to get the
connection going. I also have a script (which is probably not completely
correct). I am not much of a Unix expert but I do know a few basic
commands and concepts. I am using a NeXT cube.
Q: Question is what are some basic steps that I can perform to test or
make the connection? Thanks.
--Ernie Baca
--ebaca@delphi.com (for now until I get PPP going)
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Npd?
Date: 5 Feb 1995 03:59:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3h1ifi$ghj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello all --
Just one quick question --
Since I don't have any printers running, networked or directly linked
through the port, to my NeXTstation, is it at all necessary to have npd and
lpd running? This is probably a self-evident question, but I thought I would
just check quickly with you guys before I go killing things. :)
Thanks in advance for any tips! :)
-- John
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | You can live only once, but
4th Year Computer Engineering | if you do it right, once is
Case Western Reserve Univ. | enough.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Unknown
______________________________|_____________________________
"Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied
them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with
computers, and nobody thinks of complaining."
-- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in
Doctor Dobb's Journal
____________________________________________________________
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What Content-Types does NeXT's Mail app use in 3.3?
Date: 05 Feb 1995 04:10:22 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Feb5041022@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Does anybody know the complete list of Content-Types that NeXT's 3.3
Mail app supports?
For instance, how would I send a .snd file from a Sun and have it
appear as a Sound.app document in Mail.app?
Also, how can extend the existing types via .mailcap like
functionality.
--
"Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games."
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <ROBERT.95Feb5040712@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Control: cancel <ROBERT.95Feb5040712@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Date: 05 Feb 1995 04:11:32 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Feb5041132@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
--
"Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games."
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: Dino Bagdadi <dbagdadi@shadow.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Faxing - with Supra Fax modem?
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 02:04:29 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950205015823.11323D-100000-100000-100000@anshar.shadow.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3gm5fh$nut@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
You will need a software package like NXFax, which provides a bunch of
drivers for many faxes/modems.
Dino Bagdadi
dino@blackmaus.com (NeXTmail expected!)
Blackmaus Design, Inc.
PGP key upon request
On 31 Jan 1995, Anil Rhemtulla wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I have a Supra Fax modem hooked up to my NeXT black box.
> Where do I get the drives to 'create' the right fax modem
> setup? Currently, the 'create fax modem' only supplies two
> options (neither seems to work).
>
> Any help would be appreciated,
> Anil
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Port Usage
Message-ID: <D3IG7M.AGJ@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 04:52:33 GMT
How can you determine which application is bound to a port. When I
try to do a tredir on port 25 for mail, I get the following:
Port is already bound or some such error. s = -1
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: paris@menudo.uh.edu (Jehan-Francois Paris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT workstation refuses to mount MS-DOS floppies
Date: 3 Feb 1995 09:07:05 -0600
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3gtgqp$h54@menudo.uh.edu>
Our system administrators have done a big cleanup of all the software
on all our workstations during the Christmas break. As a result, my
NeXT workstation refuses to mount any diskette I have inserted in its
floppy drive: it just reads the floppy for a few seconds then waits
two minutes ejects the floppy. What should I look for?
--J.-F. Paris
____ ____ ____ ______________________________________________________
| | | | | | Jehan Francois Paris Office: PGH569
| | | |__| | Department of Computer Science paris@cs.uh.edu
| | | __ | University of Houston 713-743-3341
| |___| | | | Houston, TX 77204-3475 713-743-3335 (FAX)
\_____/|__| |__| ______________________________________________________
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Date: 5 Feb 1995 08:10:47 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h2167$16f@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3h0pa6$6is@scratchy.reed.edu>
In article <3h0pa6$6is@scratchy.reed.edu> agrier@reed.edu (Aaron J. Grier)
writes:
> This doesn't run under NS 2.2! (If it does, tell me what I'm doing
> wrong.) Are those of us who can't cough up $300 for an upgrade to NS 3
> stuck with no WWW browser?
You can buy used academic copies of NextStep 3.1 or 3.2 for less than the
$300 academic price of new NextStep 3.3. Ask on
comp.sys.next.marketplace.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why does Mail think I'm at NeXT.com?
Date: 4 Feb 1995 18:41:43 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3h13bn$8k6@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <3g126u$lsi@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
If you are not on a network look for the following file....
/etc/resolv.conf
That sounds like the problem.
If its there just destroy it.
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MIME mail for NeXT??
Date: 4 Feb 1995 19:02:25 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3h14ih$8rn@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <1995Feb2.235553.18328@il.us.swissbank.com>
I am under the Understanding, but don't quote me,That NeXT 3.3 will read
MIME Mail. If you do not want to go that way. I believe that there is an
app called Proxgate coming out that will allow you to send a receive
e-Mail from MIME CC-Mail and MS Mail.
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep software for Apple connection
Date: 3 Feb 1995 15:14:59 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3gth9j$s4e@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <netnewsD3DqoK.B5r@netcom.com>
In article <netnewsD3DqoK.B5r@netcom.com> jpmeia@netcom.com writes:
> Hi, does anyone know where I can get some software that would enable me
to
> connect my NS3.3 Intel machine (a VersaE) to an Appletalk
network...tried
> intercon as recommended at NextFAQ but they don't seem to have anything.
>
> Thanks, JP
> jpmeia@netcom.com
> nextmail welcome
Partner and/or uShare by IPT are probably your solution. Let me know if
you'd like more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fiend 1.3 Release Notes
Date: 5 Feb 1995 11:16:13 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3h2tkd$fct@panix.com>
======================================================================
FROM THE FIEND 1.3 RELEASE NOTES
======================================================================
NEW FEATURES:
-------------
* Added a Frequently Asked Questions list
* Fiend Dock icon has been rearranged to allow longer dock
names
* Fiend Dock icon now has a popup list that lets you change
dock levels
* Fiend Dock can now be locked at a given screen position
* File icons can now be dragged from icons on the Fiend Dock
* New inspector panel for docked icons
* New dwrite to have the Fiend Dock close itself up after an
app is launched
* New dwrite to draw shelved icons on top of app tiles
* New dwrite to disable the display of image thumbnails on the
Fiend Shelf and Fiend Dock.
* New dwrite to make limit Shelf window depth to 12 bits (to
save memory)
* New dwrites for Fiend Dock icon font size < and weight <
* Persistent icons can now be moved
* Now includes HKCrashCatcher object for better crash
debugging
INCOMPATIBILITIES:
------------------
* WARNING: The "remove icon" operation that used to be
assigned to alt-click for the Fiend Dock and the Fiend
Shelf has been changed to ctrl-click as part of the
reorganization of the dragging behavior - be careful
so you don't remove your icons by mistake!
* Modification of docked icons' flags is now performed using
the docked icon inspector panel, rather than obscure
keyboard/mouse-click combinations
* Toggling the Fiend Dock's window tier is now performed by
alt-clicking the Fiend Dock icon, rather than from the
Preferences panel
* No more default shelf image (the former default image can be
found in the Fiend.app package as "panelleft.tiff")
CLEANUPS:
---------
* The semantics of dragging selected items from the Fiend
Dock and the Fiend Shelf have been extensively reworked
to make them more compliant with NEXTSTEP interface
conventions
* The "Follow Levels" feature is now documented
* The "Close-all-but-persistent-icons" feature is now
documented
* Files with the ".debug" extension are now handled properly
* Zero length config files no longer result in hangs
* Fiend now tries very hard not to cream its config files if you've
run out of disk space
* Alt-click now toggles the Fiend Dock's window tier, just like
the Workspace dock
* Some unnecessary scaling of docked icons was removed
* All TIFFs have been compressed
BUGS FIXED:
-----------
* Fiend sometimes crashes when docked apps are launched from the
Workspace or through Services
* Fiend causing unnecessary delays when selecting files in
Workspace
* Docked icons not updating when only persistent icons are
visible
* BackSpace Password panel doesn't always take entry
properly
* App delegate messages received in improper order when
opening files with command-drag-and-drop onto docked
icons
* Fiend stupidly drawing the Shelf twice when displaying a
background image
* Fiend Shelf dithering strangely on HP machines
====================================================================
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: haibach@stallion.chem.brown.edu (Frederick G. Haibach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RenderMan & printing
Date: 5 Feb 1995 16:54:52 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3h2vss$lkq@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
Hi,
I've been trying to print .rib files using 2 apps, MolViewer and 3View.
Both fail to print to the previewer and print only gray (MolViewer) or
black (3View) boxes on an Apple LW II.
The author of MolViewer, Steve Ludtke suggests:
>I've heard of things similar to this happening. It sounds like renderman
>is incorrectly configured on your machine. The only fix I remember is
>reinstalling/upgrading the system. There are other ways, but
>unfortunately I don't remember them ...
Reinstalling probably won't make a difference -- I started off with a
clean system 2 months ago and haven't messed with renderman at all since.
Hopefully, someone remembers and is willing to tell me.
Some important data:
NS 3.0
OmniImage 3.0
FgH...
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: avi players
Date: 3 Feb 1995 14:56:07 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502032054.AA07234@cantina.lanl.gov>
Matthias Imhof <mgi@ERL.MIT.EDU> asks:
> are there any avi movie players available yet?
Well, I don't know, but I found last week that *.avi files on a Windows CDROM (MS
Dinosaurs) show up in the NeXTStep browser with the same "video cassette" icon
that NEXTIME movies (*.mov files) have.
So, I tried to see if these AVI files would run under NEXTIME (v.1.0). The short
answer is "no". However, in one case I did get the AUDIO part of the movie to
play.
So, what is the reason for having the active icon for *.avi files if they don't
play in NEXTIME?
Dick Silbar
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 0.9.1 problem saving bookmarks
Date: 03 Feb 1995 10:59:16 -0500
Organization: In your dreams...
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <jreissyqquxwyutb@localhost>
References: <3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu>
In-reply-to: doroin@cobber.cord.edu's message of 2 Feb 1995 23:48:26 -0600
In article <3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) writes:
>I just grabbed OmniWeb 0.9.1. I removed the previous version before
>installing it. But somehow, I can't seem to save the current page to
>my personal bookmark in ~/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html. I get the
>following error:
> Could not open file <garbage>.
>Anyone else experiencing this?
Yep. That's why Omni released 0.9.2 shortly thereafter. Now they're
already up to 0.9.3, which could be found on orst in
/software/NeXT/submissions/ the last time I checked.
That was the one good thing about Omni's timebombs (mercifully
eradicated in the newest versions). At least they kept new versions
appearing in a timely fashion :-)
Great job, Omni! Looking forward to the "diamond solid" 1.0 in about
a month!
Joe
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From: pascal@wsc.com ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Espresso
Date: 31 Jan 1995 16:53:54 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3glpv2$eb3@cerberus.wsc.com>
I know PSI's parent company, Logibec, is working on Espresso's
successor. This new toolkit won't be a 4GL, but a set of
classes and palettes for field validation and EOF database
access. The "smart fields" in the current version will be
incorporated in a self contained palette. The database access
layer has been rebuilt from scratch to use EOF.
Disclaimer: I don't talk for PSI or Logibec.
Pascal Forget
WSC Investment Services
90 Broad Street, New York NY 10004
(212) 797-1887
email: pascal@wsc.com [self NeXTmail:YES];
From: gossett@bethel.edu (Eric Gossett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 0.9.1 problem saving bookmarks
Date: 4 Feb 1995 16:23:30 GMT
Organization: Bethel College, MN
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3h09m2$86v@homer.acs.bethel.edu>
References: <3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu>
In article <3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon
Doroin) writes:
>
> I just grabbed OmniWeb 0.9.1. I removed the previous version before
> installing it. But somehow, I can't seem to save the current page to
> my personal bookmark in ~/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html. I get the
> following error:
> Could not open file <garbage>.
> Anyone else experiencing this?
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jon Doroin | I've taken the NeXTSTEP
> doroin@cobber.cord.edu | Plan 9 on a NeXTstation
There is a version 0.9.2 out that corrects this problem. Look in the
/Incoming directory at cs.orst.edu.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Answering Machine via NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D3JpE3.8w@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <3gorsi$5kl@mustang.alleg.edu>
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 21:08:24 GMT
In article <3gorsi$5kl@mustang.alleg.edu> jchaffee@reis2.alleg.edu
(Jim Chaffee) writes:
> Does anyone know of any applications out there for NEXTSTEP that
> can work as an answering machine?
Try
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communicatio
n/am.1.16.s.tar.gz . It works with Zyxel modems.
Michael
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*** Michael_Pieper@AC.maus.de (only < 16kB, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: TransSys PNI std/stdout
Message-ID: <D3JvrI.D01@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:26:06 GMT
Is it possible for PNI to use stdin/stdout streams instead of a
specific serial port? I understand that "streams" would allow me to
connect SLIP while already dialed in(ie, SLIP on demand).
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer endless spinning problem?
In-Reply-To: ccuilla@ccdd.com's message of Sun, 5 Feb 1995 17:36:09 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Feb5152859@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <1995Feb5.173609.2874@ccdd.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:28:59 GMT
I see this problem all the time. It has something to do with NG not being able
to filter out malformed news articles. I think there was discussion of this
way back when on comp.sys.next.*
I am really tired of this. NeXT should release the !$#% source... We need
a less buggy quad fat version. Too bad Jason didn't release NG Pro. I would
have bought. And if you're reading this Jason, I would still buy it.
Robert
From: jti@rieska.oulu.fi (Jarkko Isokungas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q]: NeXTSTEP & AVI-movies?
Date: 6 Feb 1995 11:20:28 GMT
Organization: University of Oulu
Message-ID: <3h50ls$1nk@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Is there any way to view AVI-movies on NeXTSTEP?
As far I know NEXTTIME.app accepts files with avi extension, but when I try
to open avi movie it does nothing :-(
Maybe I should convert avi movies to quicktime format, but how?
-Jarkko Isokungas
jti@rieska.oulu.fi
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3
Date: 5 Feb 1995 23:42:08 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3h3nog$pvb@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <BURNS.95Feb2163134@nova.bellcore.com>
In article <BURNS.95Feb2163134@nova.bellcore.com> burns@bellcore.com (James
E. Burns) writes:
> I seem to recall when I bought the upgrade to 3.2 Developer (black),
> that the 3.3 version would come for free. Does my memory fail me?
You may be thinking of the 3.1 to 3.2 upgrade, which was "free"
for some purchase packages. I am not aware of any free 3.3
upgrades.
> Also, I saw a reference to a NeXT www page. I would be grateful for a
> pointer to it.
http://www.next.com, of course! ;-)
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: agrier@reed.edu (Aaron J. Grier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Date: 4 Feb 1995 20:50:14 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Message-ID: <3h0pa6$6is@scratchy.reed.edu>
References: <3go922$93l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <3gs9j1$ggk@news.cerf.net>
In article <3gs9j1$ggk@news.cerf.net>,
Gordon Van Huizen <gvh@metrosoft.com> wrote:
> OmniWeb.app can be found at:
>
> ftp.omnigroup.com
This doesn't run under NS 2.2! (If it does, tell me what I'm doing
wrong.) Are those of us who can't cough up $300 for an upgrade to NS 3
stuck with no WWW browser?
--
----
The Finn / VLA
Aaron J. Grier
agrier@reed.edu (other addresses will be forwarded to this one.)
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cassandra Updates?
Date: 6 Feb 1995 17:48:56 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h5ne8$5fb@metro.atlanta.com>
References: <3gue44$asl@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
In article <3gue44$asl@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Ernest Prabhakar
<ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Is anyone else still using Cassandra? Anybody interested in
> maintaining the source code? I had somebody at JPL send me a bug fix,
> and I was wondering whether it was worth it to put it in.
>
I still use it!!
I wouldn't mind maintaining it, but I only have 3.0 so I am unable to
build fat. I don't think I'll be upgrading any time soon.
I would welcome a new version if one was available.
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
From: Lars Immisch <limmisch@t42.ppp.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Answering Machine via NEXTSTEP
Date: 5 Feb 1995 22:20:04 GMT
Organization: myself
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h3iuk$baf@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
References: <3gorsi$5kl@mustang.alleg.edu>
Answering Machine via NEXTSTEP:
There is a solution from a company named i link in Berlin. It's a small
box connected to the DSP
port (we're talking about black here, don't we?) that has the necessary
phone connector. It sends you a
NeXT mail with the message as Lip service (neat!) Unfortunately, I don't
have their address here. If you
are interested, send me a mail to remind me.
Lars
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 15:55:15 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950205155410.24083I-100000@pear>
References: <BURNS.95Feb2163134@nova.bellcore.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: burns@nova.bellcore.com
In-Reply-To: <BURNS.95Feb2163134@nova.bellcore.com>
On 2 Feb 1995, James E. Burns wrote:
> Also, I saw a reference to a NeXT www page. I would be grateful for a
> pointer to it.
>
http://www.next.com/
> Thanks!
>
> jim burns
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/
NEXTSTEP, hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
baby http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Workaround for Fiend.app/Emacs.app problem(s)
Date: 6 Feb 1995 16:16:10 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3h63iq$h2p@panix.com>
Hi.
Since the release of Fiend v1.1, I had had some
reports of Fiend.app not tracking the launch
status of Emacs.app properly. These reports always
confused me, because on both of the machines I use,
Emacs.app seemed to work fine with Fiend.app.
After some discussion with Carl Edman (author of Emacs.app),
we discovered what the problem is.
In short, the default configuration of Emacs.app is
such that the process table entry for the running
Emacs process is listed as "emacs" rather than "Emacs".
As a result of this, Fiend's launch tracking algorithm
gets hopelessly confused, and it eventually decides that
there is no Emacs running.
This behavior is caused by the fact that the Emacs.app/Emacs
file is in fact a soft link to Emacs.app/bin/emacs (which is
something I discovered and altered some months ago, then forgot
about).
The fix is simply to reverse the soft link:
unix> mv Emacs.app/bin/emacs Emacs.app/Emacs
unix> (cd Emacs.app/bin ; ln -s ../Emacs emacs)
Carl maintains that this should be "perfectly safe", and I've
been running this way for months without problems.
If anyone has a problem with this fix, I would appreciate
hearing about it.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: elm vs pine (was: MIME mail for NeXT??)
Date: 6 Feb 1995 01:54:24 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h3vgg$2ca@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950205161839.24083N-100000@pear>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950205161839.24083N-100000@pear> GH Chinoy
<hussain@artsci.wustl.edu> writes:
> Why don't you get Pine? Although it has no graphical front-end
> specifically for NeXT, it's unix interface is a breeze. It even
> compiles w/o any significant hassles.
> It's at:
>
> ftp.cac.washington.edu in /pine
> Pine 3.91's the latest version.
The reason I use elm is that its mailbox structure is compatible with
NextMail. Does pine use the same mailbox structure as NextMail?
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jalegre@hiv.med.umn.edu (John Alegre)
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Message-ID: <D3L5B3.9s1@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
References: <3h0pa6$6is@scratchy.reed.edu> <3h2167$16f@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:51:26 GMT
n article <3go922$93l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) wri
tes:
>OmniWeb.app can be found at:
>
> ftp.omnigroup.com
Has anyone used this browser with a PPP conection? I guess
I mean used it sucessfully.
John N. Alegre
Andante Systems
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed sounds in DarkForest.app
Date: 6 Feb 1995 16:49:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h5jv0$5pj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch>
In article <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz
Willers) writes:
> Yes, we should really get back the sound in DarkForest. I've been trying
to as well.
> Unsuccessful :-( If anyone has working sounds, could you share them with
me?
>
My fix is to replace the following files in /usr/lib/sound with their
3.0 versions:
hostcompress.snd
hostcompressatc.snd
hostdecompressatc.snd
sndoutdecompressatc.snd
> How can NeXT deliver the DarkForest in NS 3.3, without the sound
working?
The DarkForest author no longer works for NeXT, I believe, so maybe no
one is paying attention to DarkForest's jungle sounds. Maybe no other NS
app uses compressed sounds, especially now that sound capabilities of
hardware cannot be assumed :-(
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Cubic Solutions Fax: +1 408 335 2515
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep USmail: 315 Moon Meadow Lane
Software Development and Consulting Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed sounds in DarkForest.app
Date: 6 Feb 1995 10:42:09 GMT
Message-ID: <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch>
References: <3gruk3$n85@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
Holger Hoffstaette writes
> DarkForest.app, the fine disk usage explorer, semms to have three compressed
> sounds in the app wrapper. The man page to sndcompress says that it will
> uncompress these (which is needed since NS 3.x can't deal with compressed
> sounds anymore, I've been told). Unfortunately, it doesn't work; sndcompress
> only writes 28 bytes and quits. Can anybody tell me how to uncompress these
> sounds?
>
Yes, we should really get back the sound in DarkForest. I've been trying to as well.
Unsuccessful :-( If anyone has working sounds, could you share them with me?
How can NeXT deliver the DarkForest in NS 3.3, without the sound working?
--
Moritz Willers
Institute of Theoretical Physics
Sidlerstrasse 5
3012 Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail, MIME)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Emacs(4.0?) and NS3.3
In-Reply-To: Donald E McCollam's message of Thu, 2 Feb 1995 22:01:29 -0700
To: Donald E McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.95Feb5234938@freedom.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950202214955.20357B-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:49:38 GMT
In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.950202214955.20357B-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Donald E McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> writes:
What needs to be done to get Emacs.app working (at the command line) in
NS3.3. If I type "emacs -nw", I get a "bus error" response. Also some
^(whatever's) seem to produce bus errors. I tried just "emacs" in
co-Xist and also bombs (it used to bring up the X-version of emacs. Is
this a co-Xist problem?) Clicking on the Emacs icon seems to work - at
least on the survace.
I am running version 19.28.1 compiled in NS3.2.
The most likely cause of this is that you have the broken emacs which
is part of (at least some versions of) NS3.3 in your path. Try 'which
emacs'. If the emacs which you find is in /usr/bin you probably are
running the broken emacs and not Emacs for NS at all. Either
reinstall it from the NS3.3 package or just delete it entirely as
Emacs for NS (usually installed in /usr/local/bin) will work under
NS3.x just fine and does all that the older emacs shipped by NeXT does
even when it works.
Carl Edman
cedman@princeton.edu
From: me@msfp99.gwdg.de (Timm Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs(4.0?) and NS3.3
Date: 6 Feb 1995 20:12:55 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Message-ID: <3h5vs7$r9f@gwdu19.gwdg.de>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950202214955.20357B-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Keywords: emacs Emacs.app
I can confirm this behaviour.
The terminal and X (MouseX server) modes of Emacs 4.0.5 crash during
startup with `Fatal error (10).Bus error'.
This is apparently a memory access exception during bcopy().
The NeXTSTEP version, however, seems to run perfectly.
I hope I'll be able to test whether recompiling under NS3.3 helps.
Timm
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950202214955.20357B-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Donald E
McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> writes:
# What needs to be done to get Emacs.app working (at the command line) in
# NS3.3. If I type "emacs -nw", I get a "bus error" response. Also some
# ^(whatever's) seem to produce bus errors. I tried just "emacs" in
# co-Xist and also bombs (it used to bring up the X-version of emacs. Is
# this a co-Xist problem?) Clicking on the Emacs icon seems to work - at
# least on the survace.
# I am running version 19.28.1 compiled in NS3.2.
# Any advice?
# Thanks.
# Don McCollam
# mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
--
Timm Wetzel <twetzel1@gwdg.de> +49-551-709-2543
Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Str"omungsforschung,
Bunsenstr. 10, D-37073 G"ottingen, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla)
Subject: NewsGrazer endless spinning problem?
Message-ID: <1995Feb5.173609.2874@ccdd.com>
Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com
Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 17:36:09 GMT
So this is driving me nuts. I have been running NewsGrazer for several months
now without any real problems. Suddenly I am having this strange problem. It
comes up and consistently, about 1 to 1.5 minutes later, it starts spinning,
endlessly. No crash. No console messages. I have to kill it. I have logged
out/logged in. I have rebooted. Any suggestions on where to look for clues?
Has anyone else experience this problem before.
Thanks in advance for any help.
--
Chris Cuilla
Chris Cuilla Design & Development
From: mjones01@interserv.com (Matthew Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Setting up a slab as a ppp HOST
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 22:19:50 -0700
Organization: M.C.R. Labs
Message-ID: <mjones01-3101952219500001@dc4_p20.sprint.dialup.net>
I would like to set up my slab as a ppp host, I have a 56k connection to
the local ethernet network, and a couple of modems hanging off of the
next...
Is this possible? All the information I have seen so far deals with
making a next a ppp client.
--
/------------------------\
| Matthew Jones |
| mjones01@interserv.com |
\------------------------/
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TIP: Postscript Man Pages in Preview
Date: 1 Feb 1995 05:22:24 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3gn5qg$eb8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
This might be well-known to many (but not to me):
I finally found a way to get nice-looking man pages displayed
automagically in Preview ready to be printed (or NOT)
You might need to zoom-in once to see the text clearly.
In any case, I wanted something better than "more" in
a shell and ready to be printed if needed.
Here is what I did:
In .cshrc I added the TROFF environment variable:
setenv TROFF "ptroff -t"
The "ptroff -t" sends data to standard output.
The TROFF variable is used by "man -t"
In my Apps directory I added a text file, I
named it "psman". It contains two lines:
man -t $1 > /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
open /tmp/.preview_$1.ps
I then made it executable:
yourhost% chmod u+x ~/Apps/psman
Did a rehash:
yourhost% rehash
That's it.
Now when you issue, for example, the command:
yourhost% psman which
(instead of yourhost% man which)
Preview will load the file /tmp/.preview_which.ps
If you close the file or exit Preview, then the
Preview application automatically deletes the
file in /tmp (that's because it starts with .preview)
The file is nicely formatted for printing out.
Hope that was new and helpful to you!
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: elm vs pine (was: MIME mail for NeXT??)
Date: 6 Feb 1995 17:53:08 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h5nm4$hh7@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <3h3vgg$2ca@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3h3vgg$2ca@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950205161839.24083N-100000@pear> GH Chinoy
> <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu> writes:
>
> > Why don't you get Pine? Although it has no graphical front-end
> > specifically for NeXT, it's unix interface is a breeze. It even
> > compiles w/o any significant hassles.
> > It's at:
> >
> > ftp.cac.washington.edu in /pine
> > Pine 3.91's the latest version.
>
> The reason I use elm is that its mailbox structure is compatible with
> NextMail. Does pine use the same mailbox structure as NextMail?
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@raven.stanford.edu
While PINE's mailboxe structure is different from NextMail, you can link
PINE's mailbox structure to the NeXT's. The only tricks are a good
understanding of NeXTMail's mbox structure, and not running both NextMail
and PINE at the same time.
I use NextMail at work, but when I telnet in from someplace else, I use
PINE. Works like a charm.
bb
--
Bill Barker
Biological Structure, SM-20
University of Washington
Seattle WA 98195
(206) 543-7315
"In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is
Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: 9120092@news.ul.ie ( P O'Brien )
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Message-ID: <D3n0BB.6Kp@ul.ie>
Sender: usenet@ul.ie
Organization: University of Limerick
References: <3gs9j1$ggk@news.cerf.net> <3h6172$aft@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:57:11 GMT
Garance A. Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote:
: Right now there is a flurry of activity with OmniWeb itself, so the
: version number on that might be different by the time you go to check
: the archive site. Anyone who is using an earlier version of OmniWeb
: (or of the OmniImageFilter) would be well advised to pick up these
: new versions, as the 0.9.* versions are *considerably* better than
: previous versions (not that the previous versions were awful, but
: there is a lot of improvements in these latest versions).
: --
: Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
: ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
I too have been having 'problems' with OmniWeb. Is there a version of
Netscape for the Cube ?
Peter
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Date: 6 Feb 1995 20:35:45 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h6172$aft@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3gs9j1$ggk@news.cerf.net>
gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) writes:
> It can?
>
> ftp -n ftp.omnigroup.com
> ftp.omnigroup.com: unknown host
>
> Any other ideas? My copy of OmniWeb expired...
The usenet hub for RPI is again acting weird, so I don't know
if people have seen the other article where I mentioned the
following:
Try ftp-ing to ftp.cs.orst.edu, and look in the directory
/pub/next/submissions. Check for all files starting with the
letters: Omni*
Right now, that will give you the files:
655360 Feb 3 07:49 OmniImage-3.0.2.pkg.tar
458 Feb 3 07:49 OmniImage-3.0.2.pkg.tar.README
1935360 Feb 3 07:49 OmniImageFilter-3.1.1.pkg.tar
2386 Feb 3 07:50 OmniImageFilter-3.1.1.pkg.tar.README
1411877 Feb 3 16:08 OmniWeb-0.9.3.app.tar.gz
You will definitely want OmniWeb-0.9.3.app.tar.gz,
OmniImageFilter-3.1.1.pkg.tar, and OmniImageFilter-3.1.1.pkg.tar.README,
and once you have those you might as well pick up the other two too.
Right now there is a flurry of activity with OmniWeb itself, so the
version number on that might be different by the time you go to check
the archive site. Anyone who is using an earlier version of OmniWeb
(or of the OmniImageFilter) would be well advised to pick up these
new versions, as the 0.9.* versions are *considerably* better than
previous versions (not that the previous versions were awful, but
there is a lot of improvements in these latest versions).
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MIME mail for NeXT??
Date: 5 Feb 1995 19:10:30 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Message-ID: <3h37r6$a4o@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <1995Feb2.235553.18328@il.us.swissbank.com> <3h14ih$8rn@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Mo86 (mo86@aol.com) wrote:
: I am under the Understanding, but don't quote me,That NeXT 3.3 will read
: MIME Mail. If you do not want to go that way. I believe that there is an
: app called Proxgate coming out that will allow you to send a receive
: e-Mail from MIME CC-Mail and MS Mail.
ProxGate is a mail gateway from NeXTmail to MS Mail and other mailers and
is currently shipping...I believe the price starts at $3500.00 but don't
take that as Gospel...try info@proxima.com for more information.
Dave
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MIME mail for NeXT??
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 16:21:40 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950205161839.24083N-100000@pear>
References: <1995Feb2.235553.18328@il.us.swissbank.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <1995Feb2.235553.18328@il.us.swissbank.com>
Ben,
Why don't you get Pine? Although it has no graphical front-end
specifically for NeXT, it's unix interface is a breeze. It even compiles
w/o any significant hassles.
It's at:
ftp.cac.washington.edu in /pine
Pine 3.91's the latest version.
Oh, and Pine's much easier to use than Elm.
Hussain
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab
NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis
hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ben Donatello Kelley wrote:
> I am in search of a MIME complient mail reader for NeXT. (We have NS 3.2
> here.) I was under the impression that NeXTMail _was_ capable of reading
> MIME mail. Anyone have any clues there??
>
> I have the source for elm. Perhaps my best option is to compile it up for
> NeXT??
>
> - Ben Kelley.
>
>
> --
> Ben Kelley=ben@syd.au.swissbank.com "Half a bee, philosophically, must ipso-
> Swiss Bank Corporation, Australia facto half not be. Do you see?"
> Ph +61 (0)2 258 2382, Fax 258 2400 - Month Python
>
> ...oooOOOooo...
>
>
>
>
From: hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed sounds in DarkForest.app
Date: 7 Feb 1995 12:17:38 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h7od2$qhp@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch> <3h5jv0$5pj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote:
>In article <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz
>Willers) writes:
>> Yes, we should really get back the sound in DarkForest. I've been trying
>to as well.
>> Unsuccessful :-( If anyone has working sounds, could you share them with
>me?
>>
> My fix is to replace the following files in /usr/lib/sound with their
>3.0 versions:
>hostcompress.snd
>hostcompressatc.snd
>hostdecompressatc.snd
>sndoutdecompressatc.snd
Thanks for stepping in, Art - I already wanted to reply, but had to fight
my machine during the weekend..
I installed the package you sent me, but unfortunately it doesn't work.
I'm on Intel. Does this matter? Does the fix work only on m68k machines,
possibly because of endianess?
>> How can NeXT deliver the DarkForest in NS 3.3, without the sound
>working?
> The DarkForest author no longer works for NeXT, I believe, so maybe no
>one is paying attention to DarkForest's jungle sounds. Maybe no other NS
>app uses compressed sounds, especially now that sound capabilities of
>hardware cannot be assumed :-(
I heard that's what 'device drivers' are for - abstraction of the hardware
from the access layer. Oh well.
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstaette // [eMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What Content-Types does NeXT's Mail app use in 3.3?
Date: 6 Feb 1995 18:25:01 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3h5pht$mk@rosie.next.com>
References: <ROBERT.95Feb5041022@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: makemail 2.5f
In article <ROBERT.95Feb5041022@steffi.dircon.co.uk>,
Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>Does anybody know the complete list of Content-Types that NeXT's 3.3
>Mail app supports?
Take a look at /NextApps/Mail.app/MimeFileTypes
>For instance, how would I send a .snd file from a Sun and have it
>appear as a Sound.app document in Mail.app?
It should be send as audio/basic.
>Also, how can extend the existing types via .mailcap like
>functionality.
You can edit the MimeFileTypes file.
If the MIME mail also contains the filename, Mail doesn't need to
know about the content-type for it to work correctly (thanks to the Workspace)
--Dan
--
Dan Grillo dan_grillo@next.com (415) 780-2963 now in building 1
What profits a man if he gains the world, yet loses his Slack?
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.music,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: MIDI Sequencer for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 6 Feb 1995 20:02:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3h5v9c$s9s@cs.ubc.ca>
Has anyone had any experience with MIDI sequencers under NEXTSTEP/Intel?
The only one I can find is Presto. Is Pinnacle still around?
Also, how is the time accuracy under NEXTSTEP/Unix? Can I use my
MPU-401-compatible card (MQX-32M)?
I don't need the DSP stuff, and my needs are pretty simple since I use
Cubase/Windows for any serious stuff. I just want to be able to play my
tunes (.MID files) and practise to them without rebooting to DOS (ugh).
--
Chris Roehrig (croehrig@cs.ubc.ca)
Dept. of Computer Science, University of British Columbia, Canada
From: jim.fleming@bytes.com (Jim Fleming)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.software-eng
Subject: Unirversity: Open Enrollment in OO Technology (reposted from comp.object)
Date: 7 Feb 1995 06:40:59 GMT
Organization: bytes.com
Message-ID: <3h74lr$674@News1.mcs.com>
References: <3gurlm$rq4@News1.mcs.com>
In article <3gurlm$rq4@News1.mcs.com>, jim.fleming@bytes.com (Jim Fleming) says:
>
>For those people interested in learning more about
>object-oriented programming we invite you to participate
>in our enrollment in a course on World Wide Software
>development. You will not have to go anywhere but your
>Internet connection to tune in and participate.
>
>Each participant in this global class will be assigned
>ONE class from the list below. You will be sent the
>source for this class and you will become the world
>expert on this class. As a participant in this class
>you will be expected to discuss your class with fellow
>students. To fully understand its protocol, to defend
>or deny association with it, and in general to act as
>a class advocate. Some of the classes are simple. In
>some cases students can ask for additonal classes if
>they can carry the load.
>
>A list of e-mail addresses will be published for each
>class as students sign up and the classes are distributed.
>In some cases, you will get e-mail directly from other
>students. In other cases you will have to post your
>discussions or respond to discussions as the need may
>be.
>
>Discussions will be held during the course on various
>topics relating to object-oriented programming, large
>reusable class design, distributed object technology,
>world wide software distribution, and future directions
>in object technology.
>
>All students will be provided with electronic copies
>of reference manuals for the C+@ Programming Language.
>All of the following classes have been coded in C+@
>which is easier to learn than C. Participants are
>recommended to have a reading knowledge of C. People
>familiar with Smalltalk should have no problem with
>the software side of the project work.
>
>The goal of the class and the project work is NOT
>to have people writing code and running software.
>On the contrary, the code has been written. The goal
>of the class is to discuss the various classes, to
>have individuals discover how their class fits into
>the overall picture of the system and to truely
>study and discuss large scale world-wide software
>development and distribution.
>
>One of the beauties of using the C+@ programming
>language is that students will not be encouraged to
>try to "run" their piece of software. Instead, students
>will be encouraged to "think" about the interface
>for their class and to fully understand the protocol
>of their class, and to communicate this protocol to
>other members of the Unirversity. You will be considered
>the Distinguished Instance of your class and you will
>field questions (and messages) just as in a running
>object oriented system.
>
>The classes shown below are not perfect. They were developed
>by humans just like you and I. During the course of the
>class, you may find that your assigned class does not meet
>your standards or the standards of others in terms of good
>design, consistent interfaces, etc. You will discover this
>via discussion with others. You will discover how other
>classes work by discussing them with the people assigned.
>In some sense, it will be like a global adventure game
>with real people discussing real software.
>
>Another description is a "software mall", you will be like
>a vendor, extohling the virtues of your class and encouraging
>or in some cases discouraging people to use it. You may end
>up redesigning your class, you may have to advertise that
>you are changing your class protocol. Others will have
>to respond and react. If OO technology really helps to
>solve the global reusable software development and distribution
>dilema, then this project will be a start at testing this
>on a world-wide basis.
>
>There is no charge for enrollment. The only requirement
>is that you have active access to e-mail and news
>posted in comp.object. As we get started in this global
>Unirversity experiment, we will develop some guidelines
>on how people should socialize their questions, how
>homework assignments will be posted, etc.
>
>If you would like to enroll and receive your first
>class as well as your electronic reference manual
>for C+@, send mail to:
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>
>jim.fleming@bytes.com
>
>with a message body of:
>
>I would like to enroll in your course on OO Technology.
>I understand that I have to have access to e-mail and
>netnews to actively participate and to get the most
>benefit from this course.
>
>I am most interested in:
> Computer Languages
> Operating Systems
> Visual Development Environments
>or I am interested in everything
>
>
>------------------------------------------------
>
>Please feel free to forward this to your friends.
>Also, please feel free to print and post. Please
>keep in mind that classes will be assigned in
>order of importance and based on a first come
>first serve basis. If a group of you decide to
>take the course that is OK. We can not guarantee
>that you will get classes that are related to
>your friends (human that is).
>
>
>COURSE SCHEDULE & Monthly Topics
>
>February 1995 - Open Enrollment Begins
>March 1995 - An overview of the C+@ Programming Language
>April 1995 - An overview of the CONIX Class FrameWork
>May 1995 - An overview of the DoorStep Visual FrameWork
>June 1995 - Issues in Portable Reusable Software
>July 1995 - The role of the Internet in software distribution
>August 1995 - The marvelous marvel of distributed objects
>September 1995 - Interworking with legacy systems
>October 1995 - Field update of running OO software
>November 1995 - Incremental usage sensitive charging for software
>December 1995 - HOLIDAY BREAK
>
>Jim Fleming
>Unir Technology, Inc.
>184 Shuman Blvd., #100
>Naperville, IL 60563
>1-800-222-UNIR (8647)
>
>P.S. It is snowing outside in "Chicago", I wonder
>what the weather is like in CAIRO?
>
>
>------------------------Attachment--------------------------
>
>
>-----------1995 Class FrameWorks and Packages----------------
>C+@/Language/Compiler/Asmcode
>C+@/Language/Compiler/Asmgen
>C+@/Language/Compiler/Break
>C+@/Language/Compiler/CaseStatement
>C+@/Language/Compiler/Ccode
>C+@/Language/Compiler/ClassNode
>C+@/Language/Compiler/ClassPartitioner
>C+@/LC+@/Language/Compiler/ConditionalExpression
>C+@/Language/Compiler/Constant
>C+@/Language/Compiler/Continue
>CONIX/Lib/UNIX/UnixResource
>CONIX/Lib/UNIX/UnixTime
>CONIX/System/Class/BeadedMethod
>CONIX/System/Class/BeadedMethodDecode
>CONIX/System/Class/Class
>CONIX/System/Class/ClassData
>CONIX/System/Class/Description
>CONIX/System/Class/MethodDescription
>CONIX/System/Class/MethodSelector
>CONIX/System/Class/Variable
>CONIX/System/Class/VariablesDescription
>CONIX/System/Debug/Debug
>CONIX/System/Debug/Debugger
>CONIX/System/Debug/DebuggerBreakPoint
>CONIX/System/Debug/DebuggerStack
>CONIX/System/Debug/DebuggerStackFrame
>CONIX/System/Debug/ObjectTable
>CONIX/System/GarbageCollector
>CONIX/System/Initialize
>CO
>CONIX/Tests/TableTest
>CONIX/Tests/TestFrameWork/TestClass
>CONIX/Tests/TestFrameWork/TestSchedule
>CONIX/Tests/TestFrameWork/TestTemplate
>CONIX/Tests/TestFrameWork/VisualTestContr
>DoorStep/Basic/OpenLook/NoticeWindowView
>DoorStep/Basic/Sun/Layers
>DoorStep/Basic/Sun/SunBitmap
>DoorStep/Basic/Sun/SunCursor
>DoorStep/Basic/Sun/SunRegion
>DoorStep/Basic/Sun/SunWindowSystem
>DoorStep/Basic/Tty/Pty
>DoorStep/Basic/Tty/Tty
>DoorStep/Basic/Tty/TtyAdm3a
>DoorStep/Basic/Tty/TtyEmacsterm
>DoorStep/Basic/Tty/TtySunCmd
>DoorStep/Basic/Views/BlankView
>DoorStep/Basic/Views/MessageView
>DoorStep/Basic/Views/PanelView
>DoorStep/Basic/Views/PanelViewButton
>DoorStep/Basic/Views/ScrollBarView
>DoorStep/Basic/Views/ScrollingMenu
>DoorStep/Basic/Views/StaticMenu
>DoorStep/Basic/Views/TextMatrix
>DoorStep/Basic/Views/TextPrompterView
>DoorStep/Basic/X/XBitmap
>DoorStep/Basic/X/XCursor
>DoorStep/Basic/X/XEvent
>DoorStep/Basic/X/XRegion
>DoorStep/Basic/X/XWindowSystem
>DoorStep/Tools/Visual/StackDisplay
>DoorStep/Tools/Visual/StackFrameInspector
>DoorStep/Tools/Visual/TextGatherer
>DoorStep/Tools/Visual/ToolBuild
>DoorStep/Tools/Visual/ToolBuildView
>DoorStep/Tools/Visual/Transcript
>DoorStep/Tools/Visual/UnixShell
>Unir/Demo/BitEd/BitEd
>Unir/Demo/BitEd/Life
>Unir/Demo/Calendar/Calendar
>Unir/Demo/Calendar/CalendarAppt
>Unir/Demo/Calendar/CalendarNotify
>Unir/Demo/Calendar/CalendarTool
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/Box
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/DisplayCanvas
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/DisplayGroup
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/DisplayObject
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/DisplayView
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/DrawTool
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/Link
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/Oval
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/Polygon
>Unir/Demo/DrawTool/SimpleText
>Unir/Demo/FileView/FileView
>Unir/Demo/FileView/FileViewNode
>Unir/Demo/FileView/Password
>Unir/Demo/Hanoi/HanoiPin
>Unir/Demo/Hanoi/HanoiSphere
>Unir/Demo/Hanoi/Tower
>Unir/Demo/Hanoi/TowerDisk
>Unir/Demo/Hanoi/TowerOfHanoi
>Unir/Demo/HyperMail/HyperCode
>Unir/Demo/HyperMail/HyperMail
>Unir/Demo/InterEd/InterEd
>Unir/Demo/MailTool/EditMe>Unir/Demo/OptionsEdit
>Unir/Demo/Phones/Call
>Unir/Demo/Phones/MsgRouter
>Unir/Demo/Phones/Phone
>Unir/Demo/Phones/PhoneDatabase
>Unir/Demo/Phones/PhoneDemo
>Unir/Demo/Phones/PhoneDisplay
>Unir/Demo/Phones/PhoneHandler
>Unir/Demo/Phones/Subscriber
>Unir/Demo/Phones/Switch
>-----------1995 Class FrameWorks and Packages----------------
From: phil@wyatt.com (Philip J. Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cassandra Updates?
Date: 5 Feb 1995 19:41:05 GMT
Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h39kh$g4c@news.rain.org>
References: <3gue44$asl@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Keywords: Upgrades would be great
In article <3gue44$asl@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Ernest Prabhakar
<ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Is anyone else still using Cassandra? Anybody interested in
> maintaining the source code? I had somebody at JPL send me a bug fix,
> and I was wondering whether it was worth it to put it in.
>
> Talk to me,
>
> -- Ernie P.
>
> Please keep us posted if you find anything.
Phil Wyatt
pwyatt@wyatt.com
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed sounds in DarkForest.app
Date: 6 Feb 1995 16:48:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h5jtg$5p7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch>
In article <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz
Willers) writes:
> Yes, we should really get back the sound in DarkForest. I've been trying
to as well.
> Unsuccessful :-( If anyone has working sounds, could you share them with
me?
>
My fix is to replace the following files in /usr/lib/sound with their
3.0 versions:
hostcompress.snd
hostcompressatc.snd
hostdecompressatc.snd
sndoutdecompressatc.snd
> How can NeXT deliver the DarkForest in NS 3.3, without the sound
working?
The DarkForest author no longer works for NeXT, I believe, so maybe no
one is paying attention to DarkForest's jungle sounds. Maybe no other NS
app uses compressed sounds, especially now that sound capabilities of
hardware cannot be assumed :-(
---
Art Isbell NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Cubic Solutions Fax: +1 408 335 2515
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep USmail: 315 Moon Meadow Lane
Software Development and Consulting Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cassandra Updates?
Date: 6 Feb 1995 23:39:19 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h6bv7$rt2@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <3h39kh$g4c@news.rain.org>
Philip J. Wyatt writes
> In article <3gue44$asl@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Ernest Prabhakar
> <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu> writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is anyone else still using Cassandra?
> >
> > Please keep us posted if you find anything.
> Phil Wyatt
> pwyatt@wyatt.com
Well, I've found lots of people interested in using it, but only one
shadowy individual who had played with the source code. I'll see if I
can sweet-talk him into releasing something, perhaps even compiled for
Intel, but I make no promises.
-- Ernie P.
--
Ernest N. Prabhakar, President, NEXTSTEP/OpenStep User Groups Intnl.
http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest/Home.htmd NeXT:ernest@caltech.edu
"...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b
"I speak for myself, and often for 'nugi', but never for Caltech."
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu>
Control: cancel <3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu>
Date: 4 Feb 1995 12:36:33 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3h0hfi$e0m@cobber.cord.edu>
<3gsg3a$s03@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Jon Doroin | I've taken the NeXTSTEP
doroin@cobber.cord.edu | Plan 9 on a NeXTstation
From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Why is setting up TranSys PNI nearly impossible for mere mortals?
Date: 6 Feb 1995 23:12:39 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Sender: tgall@wintermute.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h6ad7$og0@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
Hi all,
Well, I'm just about to give up. Not quite but darn close.
I just don't understand why something sooooooooooo simple can be sooooooooooo
hard to get working. It's like mere mortals just weren't meant to run SLIP
on NeXTSTEP. (Perhaps an issue for c.s.n.a, but I'd rather not get Mike Dahmus
started....)
Anyway, I'm rather frustrated....
I guess I wish that TCL for one wasn't involved. I don't see why a GUI
couldn't be put over the whole thing. Really, it appears to me, the only
issues that would be interesting to implement around would be the modem
sensing part, (when connected, etc) and the interaction required with the other
side to get into SLIP mode.....
Comments?
Just a couple more nights and if it doesn't work, that's it, I'm going to
put either OS/2 WARP or Linux on my box in addition to NeXTSTEP...but
by gosh I need to get on the net from home!
--
Hakuna Matata!
Tom
#include <std-disclaimer.h>
|o| Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed to be |o|
|o| IBM Rochester an earth shattering ka-boom!" -Marvin Martian |o|
|o| tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (NeXTMail -- Sure!) |o|
From: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.13 Help Needed
Date: 7 Feb 1995 16:39:05 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h87n9$r96@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3h19e7$ame@discovery.ectds.com>
In article <3h19e7$ame@discovery.ectds.com> armes@tds.com (Jim Armes)
writes:
> In article <3glnje$4e2@shelob.afs.com> Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com writes:
> > foreach i {once} {
> > $DIALER xmit {"AT\r"}
> > $DIALER expect "{*OK\r*}" break timeout {}
> > error "Could not get the modem's attention"
> > }
> >
>
> Well, from the looks of your debug output, it looks like the expected
'OK'
> from the modem is never being sent back from the modem. Are you sure
the
> modem is in verbose mode? Does this modem return a different value than
> 'OK\r' ?
>
> Jim
>
> --
> #--------------------------------------------------------#
> # Jim Armes | I've got a Dentium and you do not #
> # Matrix-Man | nahh nahh nah nah nahhhh... #
> # <my opinions> | (Darn division errors... ;) #
> #Trident Data Systems| but IiiiiM a lumberjack and I'm ok#
> # armes@tds.com |I sleep all night & I work all day.#
This part of the TransSlip problem was solved. It seems that there were
bogus character in my dial script. Now, how to deal with the real problems
with TransSlip PNI 1.1.3 and NS 3.3 (Intel). Once I get everything
_working_, I will post the results to the group. I'm still soliciting any
comments about those of you out there that have gotten PNI to run under NS
3.3 (Intel)!
Thanks,
- Greg
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: elm vs pine (was: MIME mail for NeXT??)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:10:08 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950206160808.343C-100000@avocado>
References: <3h3vgg$2ca@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <3h5nm4$hh7@news.u.washington.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3h5nm4$hh7@news.u.washington.edu>
Todd,
Bill's got the idea right. I have a link in my pine's mail
subdirectory (~/mail) to my NeXT mail Mailboxes directory for all my
Mailboxes. It's a little kludgy, but it works.
~/mail
NeXTActive -> ~hussain/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/
NEXTSTEP, hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
baby http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/
On 6 Feb 1995, William Barker wrote:
> In article takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
> > In article GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu> writes:
> >
> > > Why don't you get Pine? Although it has no graphical front-end
> > > specifically for NeXT, it's unix interface is a breeze. It even
> > > compiles w/o any significant hassles.
> > > It's at:
> > >
> > > ftp.cac.washington.edu in /pine
> > > Pine 3.91's the latest version.
> >
> > The reason I use elm is that its mailbox structure is compatible with
> > NextMail. Does pine use the same mailbox structure as NextMail?
> >
> > -- Todd Takken
> > takken@raven.stanford.edu
>
> While PINE's mailboxe structure is different from NextMail, you can link
> PINE's mailbox structure to the NeXT's. The only tricks are a good
> understanding of NeXTMail's mbox structure, and not running both NextMail
> and PINE at the same time.
>
> I use NextMail at work, but when I telnet in from someplace else, I use
> PINE. Works like a charm.
>
> bb
> --
> Bill Barker
> Biological Structure, SM-20
> University of Washington
Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: wing@netcom.com (Ben Wing)
Subject: Re: mini-buffer in it's own window
Message-ID: <wingD3KF3F.Gry@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D38nGL.Aru@sgc.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 06:23:39 GMT
In article <D38nGL.Aru@sgc.com>, Russell Silverman <rsilver@mtkgc.com> wrote:
|Does anyone know how to have the mini buffer in its own window ? I
|am currently using epoch which is set up this way, any ideas ??
You can't currently do this in XEmacs. This feature will be present in
19.13 (and possibly in 19.12, but that's not looking so likely at this
point).
ben
--
"... then the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was
more painful than the risk it took to blossom." -- Anais Nin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <odinets@next-1b.manuf.bme.hu>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:17:08 +0100
From: Sergey Odinets <odinets@next-1b.manuf.bme.hu>
Message-ID: <9502071217.AA04356@next-1b.manuf.bme.hu>
Subject: OmniWeb 0.9.3: Wanted more user licence!
Hello,
is there any easy solution for the problem?
Sergey
from http://www.bme.hu/szerv/aegee/sergey.html
Budapest Technical University
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3h1ifi$ghj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Control: cancel <3h1ifi$ghj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: 7 Feb 1995 18:23:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3h8drg$q60@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: armes@tds.com (Jim Armes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.13 Help Needed
Date: 5 Feb 1995 01:25:27 GMT
Organization: Trident Data Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h19e7$ame@discovery.ectds.com>
References: <3glnje$4e2@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3glnje$4e2@shelob.afs.com> Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com writes:
> foreach i {once} {
> $DIALER xmit {"AT\r"}
> $DIALER expect "{*OK\r*}" break timeout {}
> error "Could not get the modem's attention"
> }
>
Well, from the looks of your debug output, it looks like the expected 'OK'
from the modem is never being sent back from the modem. Are you sure the
modem is in verbose mode? Does this modem return a different value than
'OK\r' ?
Jim
--
#--------------------------------------------------------#
# Jim Armes | I've got a Dentium and you do not #
# Matrix-Man | nahh nahh nah nah nahhhh... #
# <my opinions> | (Darn division errors... ;) #
#Trident Data Systems| but IiiiiM a lumberjack and I'm ok#
# armes@tds.com |I sleep all night & I work all day.#
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ron@jaws.nosc.mil (Ron Broersma)
Subject: Re: WWW Browser
Message-ID: <1995Feb3.193052.29202@nosc.mil>
Sender: news@nosc.mil
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA
References: <3gsh2b$1eka@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 19:30:52 GMT
> I also pulled this over. Nice piece of work. However, I was
> unable to get the new OmniImage.app or OmniImageFilter
> service. They came across fine (using FTP) but I was unable
> to get the installer to install them. The installer
> complained of a bad checksum on the tar file inside the .pkg.
>
> Anybody get these other packages to install successfully?
I had the same experience. Sometime last night they got fixed because I
was able to pull them over this morning and install them with no problems.
--Ron
From: hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed sounds in DarkForest.app
Date: 8 Feb 1995 00:16:29 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Obscure Bugs
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h92gt$9ao@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch> <3h5jv0$5pj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <3h7od2$qhp@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
A small update on DarkForest's sounds:
David Andel (the WiNGmaster) was so kind to send me uncompressed sounds that
do indeed work. So, if anybody needs these sounds, drop me a line, and I'll
send you the archive. I's ~80 kb in size.
Holger
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From: booknet@rmharris.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Morror ftp site for OmniWeb0.9.3?
Date: 7 Feb 1995 21:47:50 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3h8pq6$vj@clarknet.clark.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Does anyone have a mirror ftp site for OmniWeb0.9.3? I have been unable to get a full file transfer of
1.4MB out of the site at ftp.cs.orst.edu, (for whatever it is *very* slow and never completes the transfer) and
I can't keep setting my clock back each time I want to use the OmniWeb
************************************************************************
*** Mike Harris booknet/rmharris_ltd
phone: (703) 356-1686 fax: (703) 356-543
e-mail: booknet@rmharris.com, r.m.harris@ieee.org, rharris@clark.net
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Cryptor Bundle under 3.3
Date: 7 Feb 1995 22:38:31 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h8sp7$htm@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
I'm using Mail.app (the 3.3 version) under 3.2. I successfully installed
CryptorBundle-1.0 on the 3.2 mailer. However, it refuses to work on 3.3.
It always says I don't have 'encryption' installed.
Anybody have it working on 3.3?
- Steve
--
==================================================================
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Department of Computer Science |
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
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From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer endless spinning problem?
Message-ID: <D3KxKJ.I3@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <RDL.95Feb5152859@world.std.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:02:43 GMT
In article <RDL.95Feb5152859@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert
La Ferla) writes:
> I see this problem all the time. It has something to do with NG
> not being able to filter out malformed news articles. I think
> there was discussion of this way back when on comp.sys.next.*
My solution of this problem: emacs, M-x rnews, reading the malformed
article. Then it is marked read and NG will work again. Works faster
then manipulating .newsrc.
But you're right: that's not what I think is comfortable.
Michael
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From: cpesch@pascal.fmi.uni-passau.de (Christoph Pesch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs(4.0?) and NS3.3
Date: 08 Feb 1995 13:10:38 GMT
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Message-ID: <CPESCH.95Feb8141038@pascal.fmi.uni-passau.de>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950202214955.20357B-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
<CEDMAN.95Feb5234938@freedom.princeton.edu>
In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:49:38 GMT
"Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> writes:
> [...]
> Either reinstall it from the NS3.3 package or just delete it
> entirely as Emacs for NS (usually installed in /usr/local/bin) will
> work under NS3.x just fine and does all that the older emacs shipped
> by NeXT does even when it works.
Really 'all'?
Did you try to use 'gnus' to read the news-articles you stored on your
hard disk (with gnus-summary-save-in-file and gnus-numeric-save-name)?
I tried it on two NeXTStations and an Intel machine.
Emacs 19 and gnus only find articles of the (alphabetically) first
directory/newsgroup while Emacs 18 and gnus find articles of all
directories/newsgroups. (It is no '.newsrc[.el]' problem!)
Has someone else the same problem? Does someone know how to fix it?
Thanks,
Christoph
(Christoph Pesch --- cpesch@pascal.fmi.uni-passau.de)
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Date: 8 Feb 1995 18:02:49 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
I am rather confused about the recent posts about Omniweb.
Nobody mentioned the point that I think is most important. So let me give
it a try.
How do you make money today ??
Develop a nice internet tool (or any other kind of program), and give it
away for free. After everybody is used to it, and likes it, and doesn't
want to miss it, charge money for it. Don't forget to put a timebomb in
the older versions, so people can't use them anymore.
This way you
- get free bugreports from people on the net, so you can improve your
program
- discourage other people to write their own programs, cause yours is
there, and its free
- people like you for writing such great programs (before you tell them
the price) (and, what made me wonder, some still like you afterwards)
That's what Mosaic did, and that's what Omni is doing now.
When I read about Omni the first time, I thought, they are really cool.
Doing all kinds of stuff, Doom, omniweb,... and they like thai food :)
Now we know they aren't !
Omni, are you listening ?
Perhaps 0.9 is a lot better, and has a lot of cool features. I don't
know, and I refuse to look at it. (till you change your policy)
I heard, it was a major rewrite (or complete rewrite from scratch). If
so, and if you want money for it, that's fine with me, PROVIDED you give
it a different name (OmniWebPro) and remove the timebomb from the old
Omniweb. Then people have the choice of using either the ultracool
OmniWebPro which has tons of features and costs money, or to stay with
the original OmniWeb version, which isn't that cool, but its for free.
Heh, perhaps thats what Jayson should have done ? Putting a timebomb into
NewsGrazer...
(oh, he did ? Sure, he only has to post an article with certain magic
headerfields, and all NewsGrazers in the whole world will crash) :-)
Perhaps I should do the same ? I got a lot of response about Yftp, and a
lot of new ideas from people everywhere. Some people even fixed
sourcecode. Now I'm in the position to release a really cool new version,
but this time you have to pay for it ! Ha ! All I have to do is to find a
way of disabling all current versions of Yftp, that are floating out
there. I knew it was a mistake to include source code in the first
place.... But, the new version really is so much of an improvement, you
just HAVE to have it, when you have seen it once.
Which reminds me; Why the need for timebombs ? If the 0.93 (Omniweb)
version really is that good compared to good ole 0.75 version, most
people would upgrade anyway. Wouldn't they ? People around telling them
how great everything is now, and they are still stuck with the old
version. Huh
I looked at Omni's ftp server today. They used to have an 'old'
directory, where all the old version were
stored. Of course it isnt there anymore. Does anbody still have an old
version of Omniweb, that works ? It seems I have to look through some old
archive tapes of ours.
What Omni did with these timebombs is very tricky ! They didn't tell
anybody about it, and if this bug around christmas hadn't happened, I
wouldn't have known about it till last thursday. I was really amazed,
when doing a demo for some (nonNeXT) people, "and, of course, we also
have a WWW Browser, No, not Mosaic ! Netscape ? No, it's a lot better
than all this Wind..... ... Err, I'm sorry, this version has expired...
Have to get a new one....#%$^&!%."
And don't tell me, hey, a single user can still use it. How nice of them,
eh ? I can't use it ! Is it my fault, that I'm in a network with lots of
other single users, that are totally independent of me ? Yea, I know,
it's a single_user_per_organisation_license. That's the whole idea. Upset
people running to their boss "OmniWeb doesn't work anymore !! I need it !
We have to buy it ! I depend on it !" "Well. How much is it ?" "Uh I
don't know, not that much, really ! No problem for a Big_Fat_Company like
ours" (Guess what's going on at our institution at the moment ? I KNOW
Omni will succeed with this tactique)
Mosaic, at least, allowed people to use the old version, while charging
for a newer version. I still don't like their behaviour, but at least,
they are giving people a choice.
Don't get me wrong. I am not against programmers who want money for their
programs. I am not against people writing cool WWW clients, and selling
them. I AM against people who give programs away for free, and AFTERWARDS
say: It's nice, isn't it ? Do you like it ? Now, if you still want to use
it, you have to give me some money. Well, you are edu., $25 should be
enough, for a start...."
Why didn't Omni say from the beginning, that Omniweb wil not be free, and
it will never be. Then nobody would have said a word.
It's like giving a child a wonderful new toy, and after two weeks you
demand it back: "Oh, you weren't really thinking you could KEEP that ?
How STUPID of you !"
So, the alternatives that we have left are: SpiderWoman, Nexus, Lynx?
(what's that), or an old Version of OmniWeb without a timebomb. And, of
course there is Mosaic/Netscape on X11.
Sorry for this long post, but I just couldn't stand it any longer, and
nobody else seemed to say anything (except Georg, and nobody seems to
understand him).
waiting for the flames (did anybody read this far ?),
Yoda
P.S.: And don't forget to remove your copy of OmniWeb from your harddisk
!! And while you are at it, remove OmniImage*, too. Who knows, perhaps,
some day, when you are all used to this automagically image converting,
Omni gets the idea, "Hey, it seems, a LOT of people are using our image
filter. Just think, how much money we could make, when selling it. Wow
!!!"
The only really free software is software that includes source !! Look at
MiscKit !!
Hey, you folks from SpiderWoman, do you hear me ????
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed sounds in DarkForest.app
Date: 8 Feb 1995 18:18:27 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hb1tj$osd@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3h5jtg$5p7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <3h5jtg$5p7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> In article <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz
> Willers) writes:
> > Yes, we should really get back the sound in DarkForest. I've been
trying
> to as well.
> > Unsuccessful :-( If anyone has working sounds, could you share them
with
> me?
Yep, I have them. Work on Moto 3.2 and 3.3 for me, but I don't see a
reason why they shouldn't work on Intel.
> My fix is to replace the following files in /usr/lib/sound with
their
> 3.0 versions:
>
> hostcompress.snd
> hostcompressatc.snd
> hostdecompressatc.snd
> sndoutdecompressatc.snd
Good idea :) So I didn't need to reinstall 3.0 on an optical :)
> > How can NeXT deliver the DarkForest in NS 3.3, without the sound
> working?
>
> The DarkForest author no longer works for NeXT, I believe, so maybe
no
> one is paying attention to DarkForest's jungle sounds. Maybe no other
NS
> app uses compressed sounds, especially now that sound capabilities of
> hardware cannot be assumed :-(
Yep, and definitely no one uses sounds anymore, that were compressed
on 3.0. Compression still works in other releases, it's just incompatible
between 3.0 and 3.[1-3]. Very unfortunate. Probably 3.0 compression used
the DSP, and they changed that for 3.1 cause of Intel.
Ah, I didn't think about trying the 3.3 recompressed sounds on 3.0.
OK, I have put the sounds in:
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/next/platforms/Patches
Have fun,
Yoda
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why is setting up TranSys PNI nearly impossible for mere mortals?
Date: 8 Feb 1995 18:36:01 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hb2uh$pg2@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3h6ad7$og0@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
In article <3h6ad7$og0@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com
(Tom Gall) writes:
> Well, I'm just about to give up. Not quite but darn close.
What's the problem ? Last week I was forced to install PNI on an Intel in
the matter of an hour, and it all worked ok. And Ive never seen PNI
before. But, of course, I had some expierience, from setting up SLIP,
which took us about two week, till it worked properly. PNI is really a
lot easier to configure.
>
> I just don't understand why something sooooooooooo simple can be
sooooooooooo
> hard to get working. It's like mere mortals just weren't meant to run
SLIP
> on NeXTSTEP. (Perhaps an issue for c.s.n.a, but I'd rather not get Mike
Dahmus
> started....)
Well, because, it's definitely NOT simple. Anything that has to do with
routing is not
simple. I would like it to be, but it's not the case :)
>
> Anyway, I'm rather frustrated....
I can understand that.
> I guess I wish that TCL for one wasn't involved. I don't see why a
GUI
> couldn't be put over the whole thing. Really, it appears to me, the
only
> issues that would be interesting to implement around would be the modem
> sensing part, (when connected, etc) and the interaction required with
the other
> side to get into SLIP mode.....
I don't think it's that easy. There isn't even a GUI for regular tcpip
management, without all the added complexity of dialing modems and
logging in.
> Just a couple more nights and if it doesn't work, that's it, I'm
going to
> put either OS/2 WARP or Linux on my box in addition to NeXTSTEP...but
> by gosh I need to get on the net from home!
Warp is only easy, if you use IBM as the network provider, cause theu set
everthing up for themselves. If you go to another provider, its as
"complicated" as PNI.
send me email, perhaps I can help.
--
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Problems compiling refdbms 3.0
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:04:28 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Feb8.170428.7548@proximus.north.de>
Hi!
I am desperately trying to compile refdbms 3.0 alpha 16 prerelease 9
on a NEXTSTEP 3.2 system (mono slab), but I always fail.
Was anyone sucessful?
Who could send me her/his Architecture (& maybe Configuration) file?
[ The first major problem was a wron prototype, I changed it in the
sources, but I always do get a error that I have to rerun ranlib. If I
do so, I get the error that a sybol _referr_number is undefined! ]
cc -o refbuildtags -I/private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/experimental/include -I/private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/experimental -g -posix refbuildtags.c -L/private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/experimental/lib -lrefutil -lregexp -ldb -lrefport
ld: table of contents for archive: /private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/experimental/lib/librefutil.a is out of date; rerun ranlib(1) (can't load from it)
ld: table of contents for archive: /private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/experimental/lib/libregexp.a is out of date; rerun ranlib(1) (can't load from it)
ld: table of contents for archive: /private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/experimental/lib/libdb.a is out of date; rerun ranlib(1) (can't load from it)
ld: table of contents for archive: /private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/experimental/lib/librefport.a is out of date; rerun ranlib(1) (can't load from it)
If I rerun ranlib, I get afterwards:
cc -o refbuildtags -I/private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/Version3/include -I/private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/Version3 -g -posix refbuildtags.c -L/private/workdisk/gnu/Bibdatabase/Version3/lib -lrefutil -lregexp -ldb -lrefport
ld: Undefined symbols:
_referr_number
What is going on here? Please help, I do not know what to do now!
Thank you very much, Gerhard.
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e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e
X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T
NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Problems with testsuite of rcs 5.6.7.4
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:12:05 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Feb8.181205.10218@proximus.north.de>
Hi,
I just compiled rcs 5.6.7.4 with no problems (just some implicit
declarations). But if I run the testsuite as said in the documentation
it bails out with:
"can't retrieve first revision"
What is happening here? Did anyone successfully install the latest rcs
version? After all, I guess just the test is broken...
Thanks for any hint, Gerhard.
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From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: Re: Answering Machine via NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D3nA1s.J6@vergil.ping.de>
Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <3h3iuk$baf@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 19:27:28 GMT
In article <3h3iuk$baf@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Lars Immisch
<limmisch@t42.ppp.de> writes:
> Answering Machine via NEXTSTEP:
>
> There is a solution from a company named i link in Berlin. It's a small
> box connected to the DSP
> port (we're talking about black here, don't we?) that has the necessary
> phone connector. It sends you a
> NeXT mail with the message as Lip service (neat!) Unfortunately, I don't
> have their address here. If you
> are interested, send me a mail to remind me.
>
> Lars
The Adress of ilink is info@ilink.de
The have made a PC-DSP-Card, too, which is working with mix.
I don t Know if its on the market since now.
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From: phil@wyatt.com (Philip J. Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Morror ftp site for OmniWeb0.9.3?
Date: 8 Feb 1995 17:13:51 GMT
Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hau4f$t0d@news.rain.org>
References: <3h8pq6$vj@clarknet.clark.net>
Keywords: OmniWeb0.9.3
In article <3h8pq6$vj@clarknet.clark.net> booknet@rmharris.com writes:
> Does anyone have a mirror ftp site for OmniWeb0.9.3? I have been unable
to get a full file transfer of
> 1.4MB out of the site at ftp.cs.orst.edu, (for whatever it is *very*
slow and never completes the transfer) and
> I can't keep setting my clock back each time I want to use the OmniWeb
> ************************************************************************
> *** Mike Harris booknet/rmharris_ltd
> phone: (703) 356-1686 fax: (703) 356-543
> e-mail: booknet@rmharris.com, r.m.harris@ieee.org,
rharris@clark.net
>
>
>
Just keep trying. It may also be better to try ftp at a "non-busy" time
of day. If I get it, anyone can!
Good luck!
Phil
From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP: how install Mac font for NeXT?
Date: 8 Feb 1995 18:29:41 GMT
Organization: C.I.S.M. Universite de Lyon 1 / INSA de Lyon
Message-ID: <3hb2il$a60@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr>
njour!!!
I've downloaded a McIntosh font "sonata.sit" from site (ftp.funet.fi), but could not install it sucessfully for my NeXT(040/NS3.2).
Merci beaucoup for any info.
K. SHIM
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From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed sounds in DarkForest.app
Date: 8 Feb 1995 17:59:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hb0q7$r1d@aragorn.unibe.ch>
References: <3h7od2$qhp@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote:
> In article <3h4ue1$2ds@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz
> Willers) writes:
>> Yes, we should really get back the sound in DarkForest. I've been trying
> to as well.
>> Unsuccessful :-( If anyone has working sounds, could you share them with
> me?
>>
> My fix is to replace the following files in /usr/lib/sound with their
> 3.0 versions:
> ....
I did so and DarkForest plays the sounds again. Thanks!
I also managed to decompress the sounds and everyone who wants to replace the
compressed sounds with the decompressed ones, instead of replacing the library
files, is invited to do so.
You can pick up the decompressed sounds at
http://www-itp.unibe.ch/~willers/Software/DarkForestSounds.tar.gz
If you can't access the web site, I can email them as well.
Hope this is of some use,
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Institute of Theoretical Physics
Sidlerstrasse 5
3012 Bern, Switzerland
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compressed sounds in DarkForest.app
Date: 8 Feb 1995 17:09:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hats4$k5s@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3h7od2$qhp@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
In article <3h7od2$qhp@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
> Thanks for stepping in, Art - I already wanted to reply, but had to
fight
> my machine during the weekend..
>
> I installed the package you sent me, but unfortunately it doesn't work.
> I'm on Intel. Does this matter? Does the fix work only on m68k machines,
> possibly because of endianess?
>
Yes it does matter because no Intel version of these /usr/lib/sound
files existed in NS 3.0. These are binary files, so endianess is likely
to be a problem.
NS 3.1 was the first NS version with Intel support and these sound
compression files were broken in 3.1 black, so I assume they were also
broken in 3.1 white. You may be out of luck :-(
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From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cryptor Bundle under 3.3
Date: 8 Feb 1995 07:21:58 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3h9rem$189s@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3h8sp7$htm@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Stephen J. Perkins writes
>
> I'm using Mail.app (the 3.3 version) under 3.2. I successfully
> installed CryptorBundle-1.0 on the 3.2 mailer. However, it
> refuses to work on 3.3. It always says I don't have 'encryption'
> installed.
>
> Anybody have it working on 3.3?
This may not be related to your problem (Mail 3.3 with NS3.2?!) but...
I used CryptorBundle frequently under NS3.2 with no problems. Now that
I've upgraded to NS3.3, encryption only works sporadically - it seems to
encrypt ok, but the recipient is not able to decrypt all of the messages.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
I suspect that CryptorBundle needs to be tweaked to work with Mail 3.3.
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From: jmbreuer@trek.franken.de (Joachim Breuer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! X for Black
Date: 8 Feb 1995 15:26:24 GMT
Organization: none
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hanr0$2rg@trek.franken.de>
References: <3gk6uf$i8s@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3gk6uf$i8s@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
writes:
> There is no free X port for NextStep Intel. You have to buy a commercial
> version, either cubeX or coXist. Mouse X, the only free X for NextStep,
> works only on motorolla hardware.
Is that all Motorola Hardware (Including NeXTdimension) or just B/W and perhaps the
ColorStation?
Please someone tell me!
Thanks a lot.
So long,
Joe
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Equation Builder with FrameMaker?
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:54:20 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950208175420.267AACUY.malc@daneel>
References: <STEVE.95Feb2011608@madhatter.ucsb.edu>
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>Is anyone using EquationBuilder with FrameMaker?
[...]
> If the equation changes size,
>I find that FrameMaker keeps the bounding box the same size and
>rescales the postscript inside to match the box. The resulting
>equation is therefore distorted. Moreover, there doesn't seem to be a
>simple way to resize the box to the "new" size. From playing with
>Frame a bit, it seems that when one originally imports the file, Frame
>creates the box size based on the BoundingBox: comment in the EqB
>file. However, it only looks at this when the box is created not when
>it is changed. How do others deal with this problem?
>
You get the equation right in the first place...
<sigh>
I had to do this for a book with 400 equations. It is a pain.
Occasionally you can trust Frame's "shrink to fit" macro (there's an escape
key combination shown in the FrameMath panels), but it doesn't always put
the baseline in the right place.
It's worth the effort for getting properly typeset equations, though!
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is the Next-In-Line magazine?
Date: 8 Feb 1995 23:59:51 GMT
Organization: C.I.S.M. Universite de Lyon 1 / INSA de Lyon
Message-ID: <3hbltn$mqe@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr>
Hello!
Where can I find the Next-In-Line magazine?
Merci d'avance!
K. SHIM
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From: patter_d@mdso.vf.ge.com. (Patterson David M.)
Subject: App Launch from unix shell
Message-ID: <1995Feb8.222949.8486@news2.den.mmc.com>
Sender: news@news2.den.mmc.com (News Admin)
Organization: Martin Marietta
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 22:29:49 GMT
Using NeXTStep 3.0 on Turbo slab, I want to be able to launch an app from a unix shell. For example, I want to edit a file using the Edit.app program. It would be nice to be able to launch Edit.app, provide it with the name of the file to edit and have it loaded, ready for editing.
This is a pretty basic question, but I have been spending a lot of time on Suns for the past 14 months so most of my limited NeXTStep knowledge is gone.
Regards,
David
David Patterson
patter_d@mdso.vf.ge.com
From: chris@michelob.wustl.edu (chris cleeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep software for Apple connection
Date: 9 Feb 1995 02:13:16 GMT
Organization: St. Louis Users' Groups
Message-ID: <3hbtns$chd@cerberus-138.wustl.edu>
References: <3gth9j$s4e@potogold.rmii.com> <3h0jmc$jji@nntp.stanford.edu>
In article <3h0jmc$jji@nntp.stanford.edu>,
Todd Takken <takken@raven.stanford.edu> wrote:
>In article <3gth9j$s4e@potogold.rmii.com> dan@opensource.com (Daniel J.
>Gamble) writes:
>
>> > connect my NS3.3 Intel machine to an Appletalk network
>
>> Partner and/or uShare by IPT are probably your solution.
>
>Yeah, and last time I checked uShare and uPrint had a combined *student*
>price of over $700 (six, eight months ago). This certainly didn't get me
>to buy, and now I'm going to go and seriously look at the Apple emulator
>when SUN comes and gives a Sparc5 demo at the university in two weeks.
>That whole emulator only costs $350 or so for students. IPT's pricing is
>unreasonable.
I will second your evaluation of IPT's pricing. I recently purchased
a PowerMac for my wife to use in school and thought I would capitalize
on my current printer investment (NeXT Laser Printer). WRONG! Actually,
I may end up porting 'netatalk' from ultrix/sun to NeXT. The IPT
products were certainly intriguing, but for $900 (I'm not a student),
I can buy another printer. For $900 I'm nearly halfway to another
machine! Ridiculous!
I found something from InterCon that's exactly what I want (a Chooser-
level printer that can talk to Unix remote printer), but it's $200. Still
more than I want to pay. FTP/Telnet work pretty damn well, if you ask me.
Anybody interested in helping port 'netatalk'? If so, give me a shout!
-cj
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From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Re: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Message-ID: <D3pr6q.L6q@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
References: <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <3hb7ii$d7m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 03:32:50 GMT
In article <3hb7ii$d7m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> And now that it seems Lighthouse is taking over the
>project (for profit), I feel more at ease that we will continue to see new
>features implemented (software developers are much more inclined to do
>a good job when they are actually getting PAID for it).
>
Eric is absolutely right on here. The people at Lighthouse are among
the most "enlightened" commercial groups I've ever seen. Dirt cheap
prices for the people who can't afford to pay alot and commercial
prices for the rest. And don't forget quality products. I'm
relieved that there is some commercial code that is going to be
able to pay for development and support for those people who need
that.
For the rest of us who are knowledgeable and willing, there will
certainly be free software. I have been in both worlds. Both
points of view are valid.
EXCEPT FOR WHINERS!!! I'm currently writing free software. Herr
Guenther, are you writing free software? I thought not. Until
you are writing high quality free software and donating it to
the net, QUIT WHINING!!!
Steve
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From: dion.dock@mccaw.com (Dion Dock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Grab.app new in 3.3
Date: 9 Feb 1995 02:27:50 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3hbuj6$96p@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
I'm not sure what all has changed (other than the command keys) but Grab
has been updated in 3.3. I'm surprised; I don't remember seeing it in any
of the feature lists.
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From: longsg01@slowhand.nmb.com (Gary Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Port of NS for Alpha?
Date: 9 Feb 1995 01:11:21 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3hbq3p$7fq@slowhand.nmb.com>
References: <3glj51$37c@redstone.interpath.net> <3grqnp$cap@sundog.tiac.net>
Keywords: NS port
I was at the NeXTSTEP Expo last spring.
The agreement between NeXT and DEC was VERY BIG NEWS, for both companies.
In part, the agreement includes:
1. PDO is ported to OSF/1
2. OpenStep is ported to OSF/1
3. DEC licensed NeXTSTEP source code to speed the development effort.
Rumor from inside DEC was that NeXTSTEP ports (probably PDO) were already underway at DEC several months prior to the Expo -- and that the DEC developers LOVED NeXTSTEP.
It is not known wether there will be a native NeXTSTEP port for the Alpha. With OpenStep on OSF/1, there might be no need for it. OSF/1 is Mach based, and OpenStep on OSF/1 will be very much like NeXTSTEP. It's still possible, though.
Sun and HP placed certain restrictions (60 or 90 day window, according to rumor) which have slightly limited NeXT's ability to announce new products. DEC wanted to announce this agreement prior to the Expo, but NeXT was unable, or unwilling. This is coupled with the fact that NeXT would like very much to avoid gutting it's present market by causing people to wait for NeXTSTEP on "MyFavoriteHardware" when they could buy it on Intel or HP today.
There was a nice story on the DEC-NeXT OpenStep agreement in Open Systems Today at the time.
My personal suspicion is that OpenStep on OSF/1 or NeXTSTEP/alpha is presently in alpha testing on DEC systems.
In article <3grqnp$cap@sundog.tiac.net>, peter@nextlectic (Peter Greis) writes:
|> In article <3glj51$37c@redstone.interpath.net>
|> paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman) writes:
|> > Actually, that is NOT fact, the announcement was not that of a native
|> > NeXTSTEP port, but that of PDO to the Alpha, which is still not here.
|> >
|> >
|> I dunno Dave; there was an article in the Wall Street Journal announcing
|> the port a while back, and it specifically mentioned NeXTSTEP, not the
|> PDO.
|>
|> -peter
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 9 Feb 1995 06:09:49 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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lacsap@sledge-hammer.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) writes:
> Although timebombs confused the issue, the people at Omni have
> made significant efforts in the past to communicate what they
> were thinking and get feedback from the community about where
> things should go.
>
> Their decisions about how their software should be distributed
> has been made. You are right to say you wont use their software.
> Are they evil beyond belief??? I don't think so.
I've certainly been less than complementary about the specific
implementation details of their timebombs. If people are going
to add timebombs, they could come up with a better way to "ease"
the application out of service.
I agree that people have the right to decide not to buy some
software.
In the case of OmniWeb, I see no reason to boycott their software.
Why should I shoot my foot off for no good reason? They have done
a lot of good work on OmniWeb, and come up with a very useful
program. I suppose I could avoid it, and thus be (pretty much)
forced to use Netscape on my Mac. I would not consider this
"A Good Thing", given that I do so much work on my NeXTstations.
Once you have provided a free alternative to OmniWeb which is also
reasonably good, then maybe I'll consider skipping OmniWeb. That
is not a boycott, though, that is competition (your app against
their's). Right now their app is winning this competition,
assuming it's priced reasonably.
Not only do I not think they are evil for having developed the
program this way, I think it was a good idea. By the time it's
commercial, it will have had more "beta-testing" and more real-
world experience than many commercial applications I have bought.
I got to use it before spending a penny on it. They were upfront
about their plans for it. What's the problem here?
[note: followups to comp.sys.next.advocacy...]
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From: larry@ion.rprc.washington.edu (Larry Shupe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Appsoft Draw for Intel Architecture?
Date: 7 Feb 1995 19:02:02 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3h8g3a$29t@news.u.washington.edu>
Does anyone know If Appsoft Draw was ported to the Intel
Architecture? Can such a beast still be purchased?
Thanks for any help!
--
Larry
From: charles.bordeaux@gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Bordeaux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EspressoDeveloper ???
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 11:55:34
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Message-ID: <charles.bordeaux.1.000BED74@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Summary: Does anyone know anything about EspressoDeveloper?
Keywords: EspressoDeveloper
Does anyone know anything about EspressoDeveloper?
I downloaded the demo from ftp.cs.orts.edu and began evaluating, but had a few
problems and questions. I tried to contact the numbers given for the
developer and the phone numbers are and my email bounces.
Any info about who and where I can reach the developers will be appreciated.
Thanks.
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From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Software Sale!
Date: 9 Feb 1995 20:20:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3hdteu$e6s@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <D3pCop.LEo@info.physics.utoronto.ca>
In article <D3pCop.LEo@info.physics.utoronto.ca> liu@earth.seas.ucla.edu (Wei
liu) writes:
>> DIAGRAM! 2 For Sale, requires NeXTSTEP 3.0 or later
>> only $30 in original wrap.
>> Interested please reply to this account
>>
>>
Isn't Diagram! 2 $25.00 for academic users?
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From: pgaudett@schoolnet (Pascal Gaudette)
Subject: Need Touch.app for NS3.2
Message-ID: <D3qt9q.52I@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:15:26 GMT
For various reasons, it would be really useful to me if I could
get my hands on a version of Touch.app that works with NS3.2.
The version I have (2.0v07) doesn't seem to cut it...
Can anyone help?
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Ingenia Communications
pgaudett@schoolnet.carleton.ca
From: loehwing@ix.netcom.com (Rudi Loehwing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Announce: Frag and Cost Analysis Utilities available
Date: 9 Feb 1995 19:09:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hdp9o$mtd@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
The following announcement excerpt is being sent for information on a
new (free) utility which will enable a) determining the extent and
effects of disk fragmentation, and b) documenting the financial loss
due to fragmentation: The text itself is taken from the newswire:
Executive Software announces shipping their Fragmentation Cost Analysis
Utility. The new product calculates system performance drain costs
caused by fragmented disks.
"We've known for a long time that disk fragmentation costs a company
money as well as time, " says Howard Butler, Executive Software's
Director of Technical Services. "The FCA utility was developed to
help system managers fully document the financial losses their company
is incurring due to fragmentation."
The FCA utility is easy to install and simple to use. It gathers
information about the system and its users. It then calculates monthly
system cost loss, wasted computer personnel salaries and wasted user
salaries. The FCA also generates a written analysis, showing estimates
of how much money disk fragmentation is costing the company.
Recent FCA test site evaluations reveal that businesses have been losing
tens of thousands of dollars a year from fragmentation performance
drain. According to Alan Tate, Project Engineer at Pelton & Crane in
Charlotte, North Carolina, the Fragmentation Cost Analysis "gives you a
real dollar amount to those figures you feel might be there."
The Fragmentation Cost Analysis is being packaged with Executive
Software's recently released Fragmentation Analysis Utility, which gives
Data Center Managers a precise and comprehensive analysis
of Vax or AXP disk fragmentation. Both products are provided free of
charge to qualified system managers.
"The FAU and FCA were created to enable systems managers to see the
impact of fragmentation, " says Mr. Butler. "Executive Software's
purpose is to improve conditions at computer sites, not just sell
software."
Executive Software, the leading VAX system software developer, has
ranked on Inc. Magazine's list of the 500 Fastest Growing Private
companies for four years in a row. Their Technical Support team has won
the Software Magazine Sentry Market Research User's Choice Award for
Software Service & Support three times.
Executive Software is located at 701 N. Brand Blvd., Glendale,
California 91203 and its products are available in 60 countries
worldwide. More information on the Fragmentation Cost Analysis is
available by calling 1-800-829-4357, or contact Guy White (213)
344-9333.
From: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: App Launch from unix shell
Date: 9 Feb 1995 19:17:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hdpnl$166@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <1995Feb8.222949.8486@news2.den.mmc.com>
In article <1995Feb8.222949.8486@news2.den.mmc.com> patter_d@mdso.vf.ge.com.
(Patterson David M.) writes:
>
> Using NeXTStep 3.0 on Turbo slab, I want to be able to launch an
> app from a unix shell. For example, I want to edit a file using
> the Edit.app program. It would be nice to be able to launch
> Edit.app, provide it with the name of the file to edit and have
> it loaded, ready for editing.
>
There are actually two ways to do this. The most general is to say
foohost% open myfile
and the file 'myfile' will be opened in whatever app you'd get if you
double-clicked on the icon in the workspace manager.
You can also say something like:
foohost% /NextApps/Edit.app/Edit -NXopen myfile
and edit will launch, but the 'open' command is probably what you want.
>This is a pretty basic question, but I have been spending a lot of
>time on Suns for the past 14 months so most of my limited NeXTStep
>knowledge is gone.
Your NeXTStep knowledge will serve you well on Sun boxes quite soon. :-)
Best,
Pete
--
***************************************************************************
Pete Clark | The thinking man looks at the world and
SunSoft Object Products Group | sees a comedy. The feeling man looks
Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (NeXTMail) | at the world and sees a tragedy.
***************************************************************************
From: reality@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Date: 9 Feb 1995 19:14:04 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3hdphs$fie@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
In article <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes:
>
> It's like giving a child a wonderful new toy, and after two weeks you
> demand it back: "Oh, you weren't really thinking you could KEEP that ?
> How STUPID of you !"
>
Exactly!
And I, for one, don't think of myself as a child. I'm an adult
who either pays for my toys or I do without.
Reality
--
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finger gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu for PGP public key - NeXTmail accepted
http://mugwump.ucsd.edu/bkeeley/index.html
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: More Multimedia questions... HP hardware
Date: 10 Feb 1995 04:43:04 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3heqso$ma@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <9502091002.AA19521@estel.uindy.edu>
In article <9502091002.AA19521@estel.uindy.edu> steve@estel.uindy.edu (Steve
Spicklemire) writes:
-> Also.... now I'm really confused about HP graphics
-> options. I've called the local HP guy and he seems
-> to be too busy to call me back.. so back to the net!
-> I heard from one person that he is running a 712/60
-> system with CRX24 graphics! In my hardware price-guide
-> this is not an option. It doesn't say whether it's not
-> a bundling option (for marketing reasons) or it's not
-> technically possible (but according to this guy he's
-> doing it!) so .... duh.. help me understand. Can I
-> get a 712/60 or 712/80 with CRX-24 graphics?
No, unless there are hardware options that have not
been disclosed to the public. You would need one of the
"higher" models (715?, 725, 735) to use the CRX-24
graphics option.
The Color Recovery system on the 712 and later 715
systems is quite good, really.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 for NeXTstation
Date: 9 Feb 1995 20:19:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3hdtbu$e5r@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3hbo46$iev@sartre.quintus.com>
In article <3hbo46$iev@sartre.quintus.com> Rohit Garg <rohit.garg@quintus.com>
writes:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am thinking about upgrading my personal NeXTstation running
>> NeXTstep 3.0 to 3.3, but I have the following questions:
>>
>> o does it have support for PPP?
No built-in support. But there is a free PPP for NeXT out there.
>> o does the User version (upgrade price $199) come with the C,C++
>> compilers?
Well, compilers are in the Developer edition.
>>
--
_________________________________________________________________________
Tyf@UC Berkeley : NeXTMAIL Preferred! : Email tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu
http://ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf
From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Moving NeXT files to IBM
Date: 9 Feb 1995 08:08:24 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <3hbbs8$brt@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
References: <9501312209.AA28445@alleg.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) writes:
>I have to assist in the transport of a huge amount of files
>(WordPerfect files, for the most part) from NeXTStep to some IBM/DOS
>machine (the specs of which I will not know until later).
>I need to know how to best compress the files/folders to be put on
>disks. I have Opener.app -- what type of compression works with
>IBM/DOS?? Is there anything like "tar" for IBM/DOS or does each file
>have to be compressed on its own?
>Can I change my Workspace compress (menu option) to use a IBM/DOS
>form of compression?
>ANY info greatly appreciated
>TjL
>--
>Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
>NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
>Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
>If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Find a copy of a ZIP program for UNIX and use that. The ZIP format,
devised by Phil Katz, is probably the most common DOS compression
format. There are a number of PD zip and unzip utilities, and the GNU
distribution includes GZIP/GUNZIP. PKZip, Phil Katz's product, is
also available under various UNIX flavours, but I doubt that NEXTSTEP
is one of them.
You might also want to hunt around for a PD version of tar and compress
for DOS. I have binaries of these, and have successfully transferred
stuff from AIX and SunOS to DOS with them.
The GNU stuff is probably your best bet, but if you can't find anything,
email me. I think I have a copy of a PD ANSI C zip program floating
around somewhere, or I could send you the tar/compress binaries.
--
=============================================================================
Craig Smith cs@kau1.kodak.com
(61 3) 353 2471 | You're looking hale and hearty, little buddy.
Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd | I'm a coffee achiever, Sam
From: abid@gun.com (Abid Khwaja)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Answering Machine via NEXTSTEP
Date: 8 Feb 1995 07:31:30 GMT
Organization: Gotham Users of NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3h9s0i$ip1@giuliani.gun.com>
References: <3gorsi$5kl@mustang.alleg.edu>
I use mix. Not bad but it has one annoying bug; it can't recognize when
the phone has been disconnected.
In article <3gorsi$5kl@mustang.alleg.edu> jchaffee@reis2.alleg.edu (Jim
Chaffee) writes:
[##] Does anyone know of any applications out there for NEXTSTEP that can work
[##] as an answering machine?
[##]
[##] Thanks
[##]
[##] Jim :-)
[##]
[##] --
[##] Jim Chaffee, Educational Support Specialist
[##] Educational Computing Services
[##] Allegheny College, Meadville, PA 16335
[##] (814)332-2755
[##] E-Mail: jchaffee@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Where is the Next-In-Line magazine?
Message-ID: <D3r3I8.6B6@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <3hbltn$mqe@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 20:56:32 GMT
Kwang-Bo Shim (shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr) wrote:
: Where can I find the Next-In-Line magazine?
Write to the Managing Editor, Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush, sjkb@abstractsoft.com.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
right on here. The people at Lighthouse are among
: the most "enlightened" commercial groups I've ever seen. Dirt cheap
: prices for the people who can't afford to pay alot and commercial
: prices for the rest. And don't forget quality products. I'm
: relieved that there is some commercial code that is going to be
: able to pay for development and support for those people who need
: that.
I know a member of the Lighthouse team, and I get the impression that
Lighthouse is a well-run, people-oriented organization. Hats off to
them. I get the impression that they are a foreward-looking group,
intent on serving their customers for a long time to come.
: For the rest of us who are knowledgeable and willing, there will
: certainly be free software. I have been in both worlds. Both
: points of view are valid.
: EXCEPT FOR WHINERS!!! I'm currently writing free software. Herr
: Guenther, are you writing free software? I thought not. Until
: you are writing high quality free software and donating it to
: the net, QUIT WHINING!!!
Well put, Steve. A supplier/customer relationship is healthy only if
both parties benefit from the exchange. In other words, you can't
have something for nothing. Like any kind of relationship, you have
to put something into it. Those from the "give-me set" deserve no
attention, nor sympathy. If I truly like what someone(such as
Lighthouse) has to offer me, then I want to put money in their pockets
to guarantee they will be around to service tomorrow's needs.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,ont.forsale,ut.general
From: liu@earth.seas.ucla.edu (Wei liu)
Subject: Software Sale!
Message-ID: <D3pCop.LEo@info.physics.utoronto.ca>
Sender: news@info.physics.utoronto.ca (John Chee-Wah)
Organization: University of Toronto, Geophysics Lab.
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 22:19:37 GMT
DIAGRAM! 2 For Sale, requires NeXTSTEP 3.0 or later
only $30 in original wrap.
Interested please reply to this account
Date: 9 Feb 1995 22:29:01 GMT
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From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: App Launch from unix shell
Date: 9 Feb 1995 22:07:58 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502100406.AA02590@alleg.EDU>
Using NeXTStep 3.0 on Turbo slab, I want to be able
to launch an app from a unix shell. For example, I
want to edit a file using the Edit.app program. It
would be nice to be able to launch Edit.app, provide
it with the name of the file to edit and have it
loaded, ready for editing.
The best thing to do would be to get the replacement 'open' which can
be ftp'd from :
129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/open.1.0.NI.b.tar.gz
129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/open.1.0.README
129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/open.1.0.s.tar.gz
You could use the regular 'open' that comes with NeXT, but you can't
use the -a flag (for some weird reason).
Using the regular 'open' if you do 'open filename' it will open that
file in whatever default application that is set for. If it is an
executable file, it will execute. But what if you want to edit it in
Edit.app? Well, if Edit.app is already running, you could use
'openfile'. But what if it isn't running?
With the replacement open, you do
open -a Edit -unhide -o filename
and it will open the file in Edit.app (after launching, if necessary)
and then will even UNHIDE Edit.app for you
If you are using the beloved black hardware, I can NeXTMail you the
new open binary and manpage. I use it daily.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTstep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cryptor Bundle under 3.3 - PGP for NeXTSTEP
Date: 10 Feb 1995 05:30:02 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hetkq$334@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3h8sp7$htm@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) writes:
> I'm using Mail.app (the 3.3 version) under 3.2. I successfully
> installed CryptorBundle-1.0 on the 3.2 mailer. However, it
> refuses to work on 3.3. It always says I don't have 'encryption'
> installed.
>
> Anybody have it working on 3.3?
I believe you want to be using CryptorBundle version 1.2, not
version 1.0. I've been using that with NS-3.3's Mail.app, and it
seems to work OK. I haven't used it a lot though. Note that
version 1.2 is using PGP 2.6, not version 2.2 (which is what you
referred to in your signature).
I'm not sure which ftp sites have this version, but I happened to
pick it up from site ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in directory
pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps
Once you have that, you might also want to look for a collection
of TickleServices called "PGP.ts" (well, this will only be of
interest if you have the TickleServices application from Scott
Hess, of course). These services would let you use PGP in contexts
other than just NeXTmail. If nothing else, they'd let you send
plain-ascii email using PGP encryption to someone who isn't on a
NeXT. I got these off the Big Green CD. I'd think they would be
on standard FTP sites too, but I don't see them on ftp.cs.orst.edu
anywhere.
Actually I have a few fixes to the version of PGP.ts that I picked
up off of the Big Green CD. I should finish them off and make
that available. Note that the PGP.ts services assume that you have
some *other* package (such as CryptorBundle) which gave you the PGP
binary. These are just services which make it much easier to use
that binary in assorted NeXTSTEP applications.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: dickw@wilma.eng.monash.edu.au (Richard West)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: HELP : PNI 1.13 & Mux under 3.3
Date: 10 Feb 1995 00:32:18 GMT
Organization: Monash University
Message-ID: <3hec6i$d85@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>
Summary: Help with timeout on PNI 1.13 and Mux running under NS 3.3
Keywords: TranSysPNI 1.13 Mux serial driver NEXTSTEP 3.3 timeout
Thanks to advice from the net I've got the Mux serial driver running with
PNI 1.13 (almost). The only problem is that I get the following messages
when PNI connects :
TTY tty: Trying to call xxx-xxxx (mannex)
dialer: Start of dynalink dialing script, dialing xxx-xxxx
Modem firmware version is '14400'
Dialing (DTMF) xxx-xxxx ...
Connected: CONNECT 14400
TTY tty: Dialer succeeded to xxx-xxxx
source /etc/pni/support/login-mannex.tcl
Begin monash annex login
tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready
tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready
tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready
tty: recvChars: timeout waiting for ready
TTY tty: Login to xxx-xxxx with mannex failed Couldn't autobaud annex: prompt from annex terminal server
Couldn't autobaud annex: prompt from annex terminal server\n while executing\n"error "Couldn't autobaud annex: prompt from an...
TTY tty: Drop DTR on serial port
Where xxx-xxxx is the number of my slip server and mannex is a login script
which is a modification of the standard annexe script with the user
verification taken out as my provider has anonymous slip.
An help would be appreciated as the Mux driver seems great - had no problems
at 38400 using kermit.
Thanks in advance,
Richard West dickw@dino.eng.monash.edu.au
Life's too short to Windoze (NeXTMail, MIME & ASCII accepted)
:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: who supplies Who's Calling now
Message-ID: <D3sFD7.B9L@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3gjroj$c6o@godzilla.zeta.org.au> <3gkedo$l1d@news.ycc.yale.edu> <3gpgnk$iku@news1.digex.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 14:10:19 GMT
John Todd (jtodd@ss1.digex.net) wrote:
: I will heartily second that thumbs-down for Who's Calling. While showing
: promise in it's concepts, it's a very poorly written and supported app that
: will cause you more headaches than it could possibly be worth.
Who's Calling was a very good program, and showed even more progress to
come. Support trickled off after they moved away from NeXTSTEP. Last I
heard they were heading into the Vapourware market of Talligent.
Companies keep telling me about their soon-to-come multiuser contact
manager. Right now we use StayInTouch because of the amazing search
times and shared access with the addresses panel and the FAX panel. But,
only one person can maintain each book, which is a pain in the *&@#*&.
It's really an address book, not a CM.
This is still no substitute for a proper multi-user database.
: While being fairly limited in what it can do as far as contact mangagement
: (like not having a way to track calls you've made!) SBook has been well
: worth the money I've spent on it. I've been promised a signifigant upgrade
: "First Quarter 95" by Sarrus Software, which I hope will have a bunch of
: real-world improvements made to it.
Hm. SBook also looked nice. We use their PencilMeIn, and I like it very
much. I suggested that they put the same multi-user control into SBook,
but they were'nt very interested. Too bad, because we would have adopted
it in a second if it had multi-user concurrency. I still hope that they
will take my advice and incorporate that.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXT/MIME)| spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh ------------------:-o-----------------
From: jbragin@jupiter.uucp (joe bragin 04-22-92)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re:PAS/ATI GUP Conflict
Date: 10 Feb 1995 17:49:21 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <3hg8v1$hgn@nic-nac.CSU.net>
I posted a similar question to comp.sys.next.bugs and I did mention
that Scott Davenport (sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu) had posted
a fix which worked great for MOST of my systems:
Change '0x52ee-0xfeef' to '0x52ee-0x9a00 0x9a02-0xfeef'
However, I still have the same incompatibility problem with one of
our systems. It is a Pentium and the ATI PCI default table has
the following setting:
I/O port: '0x2e0-0x2ef'
The PAS default table has:
I/O port '0x388-0x388 0x0220-0x22f 0x200-0x207'
ANy help in resolving this problem would be greatly appreciated.
(This question was posted as a request from Vicki Bragin. You may
respond through the net or send her mail at vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu)
From: dwright@myhost.subdomain.domain (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PNI - SLOW!!!
Date: 10 Feb 1995 16:53:45 GMT
Organization: String to put in the Organization Header
Message-ID: <3hg5mp$cd8@nova.voicenet.com>
Anyone having speed problams on PNI. I have a NS/FIP DX4-100 with 16550
ports and a 28.8 modem... I have PNI up and going, but my connection stinks!
Under Linux on the same box I get 2200cps minimum, and on the NS/FIP,
I get 700-900 cps...
Is there a new serial driver, or could the lack of CSLIP be the problem?
Darren
c3tmp1.monmouth.army.mil
/.
From: Ray Ryan <rjrjr@lighthouse.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.13 Help Needed
Date: 10 Feb 1995 17:57:18 GMT
Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hg9du$sio@lighthouse.lighthouse.com>
References: <3hg3kq$e12@lighthouse.lighthouse.com>
In article <3hg3kq$e12@lighthouse.lighthouse.com> rob@lighthouse.com
(Rob Kedoin) writes:
>After some work, we have PNI-1.13 working on a couple of home machines
>(all Intel boxes) We use Mux 1.6 in conjunction with PNI 1.13.
Let me add that our home machines are running NextStep 3.3. There is no
kernel level problem with PNI. PNI's release notes make it seem that
Louis anticipated such problems might arise, but those fears were not
borne out.
PNI rocks,
rjrjr
--
Ray Ryan, Lighthouse Design, Ltd. +1-415-570-7736
rjrjr@lighthouse.com http://www.lighthouse.com/~rjrjr/
From: swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: need fax software
Date: 10 Feb 1995 23:42:40 GMT
Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <SWIFT.95Feb10184241@acs3.bu.edu>
References: <3hga0p$llk@hegel.sscnet.ucla.edu>
To: golden@cady.sscnet.ucla.edu
In-reply-to: golden@cady.sscnet.ucla.edu's message of 10 Feb 1995 18:07:20 GMT
Hi, the only faxing software that is available for NextStep, unless I am
mistaken, is NXFax from Black and White Software for $135. It's on
http:/ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/demos/comm/NXFax1.04.pkg (name is not exact...);
demo mode lets you send 1-page faxes.
Unfortunately, your modem is not on their list of "tested" modems, which I
include below. You can contact them at 802/496/8500, or nxfax@bandw.com
---------------
Supported modems
,
This release of NXFax has been tested with the following modems:
Features* Fax
Modem dr aa speed
Boca 14.4 . X 14400
Intel 144/144E . . 14400
MultiTech MT1432BA . X 14400
Neuron 1414 with ZyXEL ROM upgrade X X 14400
Practical Peripherals FXMT . X 14400
Practical Periph####################################################################
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From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: GhostScript/djf experiences?
Date: 10 Feb 1995 14:58:58 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
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Hi. I'm about to buy a printer, and I haven't yet made
up my mind whether to go with a PS printer, or a non-PS/
Ghostscript or djf combination.
I am interested to know whether GhostScript/djf Just Work
or if there are inordinate difficulties getting them to
work with NS/FIP.
Posted answers preferred, and please be specific about the
details of your setup.
Thanks.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
PS - the PS printer I'm considering is the Okidata 410e/PS
(I think that's the right model....), if anyone cares.
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From: frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank)
Subject: ccmail on NS
Organization: Motorola Satellite Communications
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 00:28:22 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Feb11.002822.23972@schbbs.mot.com>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (SCHBBS News Account)
Does anyone know if I can access/run Lotus ccmail data bases
using NS mail application (or softPC)? I am hooked to the mail network
using ccmail on the DOS partition of my disk. This is a
hassle since I need to reboot out of NS every time I want to
check my mail. Are there any alternatives? By the way, our
computer network administrators don't support NS, so there are
no avenues that way.
- Thanks, Mark
p25231@email.mot.com
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From: lacsap@sledge-hammer.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Subject: Re: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Message-ID: <1995Feb8.185808.23957@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:58:08 GMT
One thing that is quickly forgotten is that there was
quite a long discussion about the commercialization of
OmniWeb before it happened. Although timebombs confused
the issue, the people at Omni have made significant efforts
in the past to communicate what they were thinking and get
feedback from the community about where things should go.
Their decisions about how their software should be distributed
has been made. You are right to say you wont use their software.
Are they evil beyond belief... I dont think so.
I hope those who are outraged can channel their energies
into writing a WWW browser with source code for free.
pasc
In article <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes:
... lots of harsh sentiments...
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From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell Silverman)
Subject: getting epoch-type floating mini-buffer in current version of emacs
Message-ID: <D3nCvs.DoJ@sgc.com>
Sender: news@sgc.com
Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 20:28:39 GMT
I really like having my mini-buffer floating in it's own window, but
I can't see how to do this. I want to be able to have this regardless
of windowing system (i'm using NeXtstep at home, sun/X11 at work). Any
clues from X land ??
--thanks, RS
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Date: 8 Feb 1995 19:54:58 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3hb7ii$d7m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
First of all, people seem to be complaining that on NEXTSTEP we will have
to pay for a Web browser while on all these other platforms they are
free (Microsoft Network, Mosaic, etc). But you must realize that you
are getting what you pay for, so to speak. Microsoft may be offering
'free' internet tools, but you end up paying for them one way or the other
(in network access fees, monthly fees, etc). No one in their right mind
will spend time and money developing a _useful_, _feature rich_ internet
tool and CONTINUE to give it away for free. In my opinion it was a gift
from Omni that they released the beta versions free to the public
in the first place. And now that it seems Lighthouse is taking over the
project (for profit), I feel more at ease that we will continue to see new
features implemented (software developers are much more inclined to do
a good job when they are actually getting PAID for it).
Eric
From: Donald E McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs(4.0?) and NS3.3
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 13:00:39 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950208123937.13717A-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
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Um. No. I get the same results if I type emacs.19-28 (or something very
similar, anyhow) - emacs is a link to emacs.19-28 in my usr/local/bin
directory and my path has /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin.
/usr/bin/emacs works fine - but it is the old 18.57 variety. Is there
yet a third emacs somewhere?
[aside: I thought I saw a post that said the Emacs package on the NS3.3
CD-ROM was 19.22. If this is correct then something _has_ gone wrong
with my NS3.3 upgrade (!) because I _did_ install the NS3.3 Emacs package
after upgrading to NS3.3 from NS3.2! However, I noticed the bus error
problem before - and after - doing that Emacs install>}
YGIAGAM :-)
????
Don
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From: golden@cady.sscnet.ucla.edu (Miriam Golden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: need fax software
Date: 10 Feb 1995 18:07:20 GMT
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I have just put a US Robotics Sportster 14.4 fax/data modem on my
NeXTstation. I need software to manage the faxing part, since what comes
with NS does not handle this particular modem. Could someone tell me
what's available and how to obtain it? Thanks.
--
____________________________________________________________________
|
Professor Miriam Golden | internet: golden@cady.sscnet.ucla.edu
UCLA | tel: (310) 206-8166 or 825-4331
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From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! X for Black
Date: 11 Feb 1995 10:06:08 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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References: <3hanr0$2rg@trek.franken.de>
In article <3hanr0$2rg@trek.franken.de> jmbreuer@trek.franken.de (Joachim
Breuer) writes:
> Is that all Motorola Hardware (Including NeXTdimension) or just B/W and
perhaps the
> ColorStation?
I run MouseX on a mono and a color NextStation. It also works on cubes.
I don't know about NextDimension system.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: madon@didec29.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is top for NS ?
Date: 10 Feb 1995 21:01:15 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
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I'm looking for top (or an equivalent program) for NS/I.
Where can I find it ?
Dominik
From: rob@lighthouse.com (Rob Kedoin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.13 Help Needed
Date: 10 Feb 1995 16:18:34 GMT
Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
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References: <3hbq6v$kj0@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Keywords: PNI, NS3.3, Mux, SLIP
After some work, we have PNI-1.13 working on a couple of home machines (all
Intel boxes) We use Mux 1.6 in conjunction with PNI 1.13.
Additionally, we made one *hack* to init.tcl to fix a problem we had. (If there
are better solutions, we'd love to hear about them.) The problem is that when
pnid is first launched, the link comes up fine and everything works great.
However, after you bring down the first connection, all subsequent attempts to
run the pnid fail with messages about the portmapper.
To get around this, we made the following modification to line 296 of init.tcl:
set i [getrpcbyname [[lindex $encapList 0] interface]]
if {$i>0 && ![file exists "/tmp/PNILaunched"]} {
cmdregister $i
exec touch "/tmp/PNILaunched"
}
Since getting the 1.6 version of Mux (the previous version had some problems)
and using this init.tcl hack, I've had the pleasure of being able to keep my
home Pentium booted in NS. (Previously, I was using Windoze to SLIP in and read
mail.....:-( )
Good luck with your configuration!
---
Robert Kedoin rob@lighthouse.com
Lighthouse Design, Ltd NeXTmail accepted and encouraged!
2929 Campus Drive - Suite 250 San Mateo, CA 94403
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From: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (Armin Retzko)
Subject: Re: !!!HELP!!! X for Black
Message-ID: <armin.792526621@master>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
References: <3gk6uf$i8s@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <3hanr0$2rg@trek.franken.de>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 18:17:01 GMT
jmbreuer@trek.franken.de (Joachim Breuer) writes:
>Is that all Motorola Hardware (Including NeXTdimension) or just B/W and perhaps the
>ColorStation?
I'm using MouseX on a NeXTdimension-system (NeXTcube with NeXTdimension board
and 2 Monitors, Color Monitor and a MegaPixel B/W).
There are just X-Servers for ColorStations and B/W Stations out there,
at least as far as i know.
Because of this circumstance, X-Windows is running only on the B/W monitor.
The X-Server doesn't use the NeXTdimension-board in any way, but at least it
won't get confused by it.
Ciao.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Armin Retzko
Schumannstr.5
30823 Garbsen
Germany
e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de (NeXTmail & MIME OK!)
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Armin Retzko e-mail: armin@kd.fh-hannover.de
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TransSys PNI 1.13 Help Needed
Date: 8 Feb 1995 20:13:03 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
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Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com writes:
>bogus character in my dial script. Now, how to deal with the real problems
>with TransSlip PNI 1.1.3 and NS 3.3 (Intel). Once I get everything
>_working_, I will post the results to the group. I'm still soliciting any
Has ANYONE actually gotten this to work? The way I understand it, isn't it
a kernel problem? Is it feasible, or advisable to even try to work around this
problem? Is a new version of PNI due out anytime soon?
Later, John
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From: dsanders@Trimark.com (Doug Sanders)
Subject: PAS/ATI GUP Conflict
Message-ID: <1995Feb9.131241.18785@trimark.com>
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:12:41 GMT
I'm getting a conflict between my ATI Graphic Ultra Pro and my PAS at port
0x52ee in NS 3.3.
In PAS16 Default.table:
/* Master decode: 0x9a01 */
"I/O Ports" = "0x388-0x388 0x0220-0x22f 0x200-0x207 0x9a01-0x9a01";
In ATI Default.table:
"I/O Ports" = "0x100-0x105 0x1ce-0x1cf 0x2e8-0x2ef 0x3b4-0x3b5 0x3b8-0x3bb
0x3c0-0x3cf 0x3d4-0x3dc 0x6e8-0x6ef 0xae8-0xaef 0xee8-0xeef 0x12e8-0x12ef
0x16e8-0x42ef 0x46ee-0x46ef 0x4ae8-0x4aef 0x52ee-0xfeef";
I'm assuming the conflict is because 0x9a01 falls within the range
0x52ee-0xfeef. Am I out to lunch ont this assumption?. If not, which one
do I change and to what value?
Thanks in advance.
Doug Sanders
dsanders@Trimark.com
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb whingers (Was : really boycott Omni. I mean it.)
Date: 11 Feb 1995 14:10:55 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3highf$5t@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
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In article <3hc8ek$414@tiptree.demon.co.uk> writes:
> In article <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
> yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes:
> > How do you make money today ??
> >
> > Develop a nice internet tool (or any other kind of program), and give it
> > away for free. After everybody is used to it, and likes it, and doesn't
> > want to miss it, charge money for it. Don't forget to put a timebomb in
> > the older versions, so people can't use them anymore.
> >
> It's true - this really is shoddy behaviour. If a developer wants beta
> testers for a commercial product, they should admit that it will be
> commercial when they put it on the net.
>
> I find the time bombs especially objectionable though. I would happily
> have paid shareware prices for OmniWeb 0.7.???, but would not want to pay
> anything for 0.9.3 and beyond (partially because - for my purposes - 0.9.3
> has a far inferior user interface to earlier versions).
This all seems like a lot of senseless whingeing to me. OmniWeb is still free
to single users - if you are at an academic site, you can buy extra licenses
for $25. I for one think OmniWeb is a superb Web tool, and I would gladly pay
$25 for the privilege of using it, and to encourage the guys at Omni to
continue developing the product. People can't work for free - although they can
work for low wages, but that's another story...
--
Donald Baird Voice: +44 1786 467926
Environment Group Fax : +44 1786 472133
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From: ccuilla@ccdd.com (Chris Cuilla)
Subject: Re: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Message-ID: <1995Feb11.163655.15375@ccdd.com>
Sender: ccuilla@ccdd.com
Organization: Chris Cuilla Design & Development
References: <1995Feb9.011412.534@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 16:36:55 GMT
Leif Smith writes
> Here's a user of OmniWeb who is not upset with Omni. For me what
> counts is this: they wrote it! I did not write it.
>
> I appreciate the opportunity to use a free copy. I don't feel that
> they owe me anything. And I think they have the right to change their
> minds. They do not become my hostages because they allow me to use
> their software.
>
> So far the relationship between Omni and me has been entirely one
> way: they have benefited me, and I have done nothing for them. Please
> underline that: I have done NOTHING for them, and yet I use the web
> browser they wrote. Omni does not owe me anything, not one thing.
Ditto for me. Well put.
--
Chris Cuilla
Chris Cuilla Design & Development
ccuilla@ccdd.com (NeXT mail accepted)
--
Chris Cuilla
Chris Cuilla Design & Development
From: tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 11 Feb 1995 11:39:27 GMT
Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
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References: <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <3hb7ii$d7m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <D3pr6q.L6q@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Steven M. Boker (smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu) wrote:
> EXCEPT FOR WHINERS!!! I'm currently writing free software. Herr
> Guenther, are you writing free software? I thought not. Until
> you are writing high quality free software and donating it to
> the net, QUIT WHINING!!!
Yes, Marc is writing high quality free software.
His product is Yftp, a NEXTSTEP FTP client.
The source code is available as well. Get the code from
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Network/apps/Yftp.0.447.NIH.bs.tar.gz.
--
martin michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at
From: louie@va.pubnix.com (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why is setting up TranSys PNI nearly impossible for mere mortals?
Date: 11 Feb 1995 09:57:11 -0500
Organization: Pubnix Access Systems (Virginia)
Message-ID: <3hij87$a4p@pub01.va.pubnix.com>
References: <3h6ad7$og0@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
> I just don't understand why something sooooooooooo simple can be sooooooooooo
>hard to get working. It's like mere mortals just weren't meant to run SLIP
>on NeXTSTEP. (Perhaps an issue for c.s.n.a, but I'd rather not get Mike Dahmus
>started....)
SLIP *is* simple. It's when people want to arrange to have packets routed
back to their hosts, to be able to use all manner of werid, cheap modems
and strange terminal servers is when things get difficult. I built a
power tool, with exposed, rotating blades mostly for people who are
familiar with the technology.
> I guess I wish that TCL for one wasn't involved. I don't see why a GUI
>couldn't be put over the whole thing. Really, it appears to me, the only
>issues that would be interesting to implement around would be the modem
>sensing part, (when connected, etc) and the interaction required with the other
>side to get into SLIP mode.....
There's a whole lot going on inside, and most of the way that PNI is
configured and operated is based on code implemented in TCL, and not
hard-coded in (Objective-)C where you can't get at it. If you look at
the various /etc/pni/*.encap/*_objInit.tcl scripts, you'll see how the
configuration information is used to invoke low-level TCL primitives
to actually tell the low-level code how to do stuff. You can, for example,
do arbitrarily complex things to find a free serial port and use different
types of modems, and try calling different numbers. The big problem is
how to explain this generalized capability.
The FILTER encapsulator, for example, invokes a TCL script when packets
match to do "things". By default, it invokes a primitive to drop the
current packet, but it could also exec programs, etc. For example, I had
a filter that matched ICMP echo request packets, and then played a sound
which made a "sonar ping" noise. It was interesting for about 15 minutes..
There is no GUI for two reasons:
- First, there is a minimum of NeXT-specific code in the software. If you
remove the ability to dynamically load Objective-C classes which implement
the encapsulators, then it should compile on most any system that has a
GNU Objective-C compiler.
The kernel driver is only 875 lines of code, and probably 200 lines of
that is garbage to do NeXT's own network interface API on what was a
simple BSD UNIX NET2-based kernel. This is easy to port too.
Frankly, building a large problem that only runs on NeXTSTEP hardly
seems like a real good strategic move. Especially when there's no
good reason for it to be so - it doesn't even have a user interface.
I have this fantasy of porting PNI to NetBSD; I just don't know when
I'll ever find the time to even think about this in the next year.
- Second, the problems that people have are not solved by a GUI. They're
routing problems on the *other* end. They are broken serial drivers in
the kernel. They are fundamental misunderstanding on what the software
can do for them. They are sendmail config problems. They are a continuing
series of @#$&*(%@ NetInfo problems which I can't control. They are
folks trying to do dynamic IP address assignment using a simple protocol
(SLIP) which doesn't accomodate such things.
There is only *one* config file that you have to specify perhaps 20
lines of information in. My implementing a NeXTSTEP-specific GUI will
not appreciably help the situation, nor did it seem a terribly
strategic
To balance this, you risk only your time trying to make the software,
and if SLIP-only is all you need, you get to use it forever for free,
with no shareware begging, as my gift to the NeXT community. I think
that it's pretty clear in the documentation that the software is
intended for the SLIP- and networking-literate, and that there's
limited support available. Unlike some NeXTSTEP developers, I don't
make a living just doing that - I have another job which is consuming
increasing amounts of time.
There are two other alternatives for serial IP connectivity available.
If you require technical support, then Morning Star PPP is probably a
good solution. It is even more UNIX-like in it's installation, but
they have a tech support phone number and the do SLIP and PPP. It
also costs quite a bit more than TransSys PNI.
You can also track down the PPP port that someone is doing, which is
available in source form, I think. It's free, but you pretty much
fend for yourself. I believe that this is a kernel line discipline
based implementation and doesn't use the documented kernel API. This
may or may not cause problems with future OS upgrades (if there are
any?) unless someone at NeXT decides to take out some code.
I'm probably not going to implement PPP because of this free software
on the one hand, and the Morning Star PPP on the other. It's also
quite a bit of work to implement and debug, and the time required to
do so just isn't available. I think that the packet filtering stuff
that I do is pretty whizzy and more flexible than most that I've seen.
TransSys PNI (and TransSys Dial-Up IP) before that were done to solve
a problem that I had. I tried to generalize the solution to my
problem to make is useful for others too, but I had neither the time
or inclination to make it much more than a tool - a tool you sort of
had to know how to use before you picked it up. It seems to be be
useful to a bunch of people, which is good.
Finally, I'm building a quad-fat binary version of TransSys PNI which
may be available pretty soon. The code itself is pretty transportable,
having already solved the byte-order dependency problems with the
486 version. What is unknown are OS bugs (like the one I've heard
rumors about on the HPPA platform with the select() system call and
serial ports) particular to platforms.
**Please** don't send me mail asking about this - it won't make it go
any faster, and I'll post a note to the comp.sys.next.announce
newsgroup when it's available. You can also look on FTP.UU.NET in
/vendor/TransSys, where the latest version of PNI can always be found.
Louis Mamakos
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: QuickTime viewer for 3.0<NS<3.3?
Date: 11 Feb 1995 20:01:00 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hj51s$4ot@news.iastate.edu>
Does anybody know of a QuickTime viewer for NS 3.1?
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From: dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Tech Support--Daniel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PNI - SLOW!!!
Date: 11 Feb 1995 16:16:00 -0500
Organization: Interpath -- Public Access UNIX for North Carolina
Message-ID: <dcl.792537312@mercury>
References: <3hg5mp$cd8@nova.voicenet.com>
dwright@myhost.subdomain.domain (Darren Wright) writes:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Notice your return address. I tried to send you the following reply, but
it bounced back because of your return address.
Don't know about your problems, but I will say this: my 68030 cube gets
1.6-1.9 K bytes per second on my 28.8k modem (which, by the way, is running
at 19.2). When I had a 14.4 K modem, I got about 1.5K. No speedup because
I didn't change the baud rate of the Cube<-->modem connection.
Do you get 28.8k throughput running COMM software? (as in, not SLIP, but
another type of serial connection)
Daniel
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Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs,comp.sys.next.software
From: wing@netcom.com (Ben Wing)
Subject: Re: getting epoch-type floating mini-buffer in current version of emacs
Message-ID: <wingD3uxn8.MMH@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D3nCvs.DoJ@sgc.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 22:40:20 GMT
Sender: wing@netcom12.netcom.com
In article <D3nCvs.DoJ@sgc.com>, Russell Silverman <rsilver@mtkgc.com> wrote:
|I really like having my mini-buffer floating in it's own window, but
|I can't see how to do this. I want to be able to have this regardless
|of windowing system (i'm using NeXtstep at home, sun/X11 at work). Any
|clues from X land ??
This really ought to be in the FAQ. (O FAQ maintainer Anthony Rossini,
are you listening?)
You can't do this in 19.11.
You might be able to be do this in 19.12.
You definitely will be able to do this in 19.13.
ben
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From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Software Sale!
Date: 11 Feb 1995 22:34:06 GMT
Organization: I'm not really all that organized.
Message-ID: <3hje0u$j2g@bunyan.covenant.edu>
References: <3hdteu$e6s@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <3hdteu$e6s@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu
(Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
> In article <D3pCop.LEo@info.physics.utoronto.ca> liu@earth.seas.ucla.edu
(Wei
> liu) writes:
> >> DIAGRAM! 2 For Sale, requires NeXTSTEP 3.0 or later
> >> only $30 in original wrap.
> >> Interested please reply to this account
> >>
> Isn't Diagram! 2 $25.00 for academic users?
>
It is (or was when I bought it a year ago) $25 dollars for a student
version without a manual, and $75 for a faculty member, including the
manual.
Don Petcher
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Screwed up again... Please help.
Date: 12 Feb 1995 02:43:56 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <3hjslc$88f@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Hello world. Once again, my innate talent in completely screwing up
NeXTStep shines through, and I've once again left it in an unusable
state, so I need some help in restoring it. However, that is only part
of the story, as I am trying to write a paper for a networks class on
this topic, so any assistance that you may provide is greatly
appreciated.
This is what I am trying to do on the long term......
I started myself on a journey to explore slip/ppp/networking
in general specifically under NeXTStep. (because I happen to run this
instead of linux) at the conclusion of this, I hope to write a paper
on the topic, and maybe at the end I can write a couple of easy to
understand instructions and tips for those of us who is willing to
learn but do not fully understand the intricacies of unix/networking
etc. I am starting with a 486-66 machine with a US-Robotics v.34
modem attempting to connect to the University of Maryland comptuer
systems, which has a bank of US Robotics Courier v.34's on the other
end, I'm told. I have paid for the $20/semester option of slip, which
means that I do not get a dedicated IP address, but will instead be
dynamically allocated one, as I call up. my first step is to replace
the serialport driver with the mux driver, and that is where I am. I
started to edit the Default.table and now the system will not complete
the boot, even with config=Default !!!!! the only way I can access
the system now is to boot into single user's mode to edit the files
I've messed up, but I am afraid that I do not know what they're
supposed to look like in their default state. would someone be so kind
as to email me the four files? I belive that they are
XX/Serialport.config/Default.table
XX/Serialport.config/Instance0.table
XX/SerialMouse.config/Default.table
XX/SerialMouse.config/Instance0.table
right now, the system gets locked up right after it looks for the Bus
mouse, which does not exist. It is my guess that it then goes to look
for the serial mouse, but because I've messed up those files, it gets
all screwed up, and locks up. even alt-ctrl-num_lock won't reboot the
system. I have to hard reboot, which then requires another boot cycle
to fix the crashed FS.
Finally, as I spoke to my professor initially, one of the things that
I brought up was that simple network starter will not work without a
netowrk card installed, even though the intent was to do the "network"
through a modem. He speculated that the program "simple network
starter" may have hardcoded into it to look for the ethernet card, and
use the unique ethernet address as a basis for the system address,
even though the network connection was through the modem. could
someone inform me if this is indeed the case? and if so, why does this
need be? as far as I know Linux or other PC's or Mac's do not need a
network card for slip/ppp is this because the App was originally
ported from black hardware and all the black hardware had ethernets
built in?
any assistance you may provide in this matter is greatly
appreciated. I will attempt to reapy your kindness by writing a clear
and easy to understand paper on this topic, and maybe submit it to an
archive somewhere.
Thank you.
--
David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu
Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering
Apprentice Tinker,Basement network administrator.
NSFIP/WARP/DOS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: miked@vnet.ibm.com (Mike Dahmus)
Subject: Re: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Sender: news@bocanews.bocaraton.ibm.com (News Admin ID)
Message-ID: <D3qn1q.JzL@bocanews.bocaraton.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 15:01:02 GMT
References: <3hb109$oi3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <3hb7ii$d7m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Organization: Pen for OS/2 Development, IBM Boca Raton
In <3hb7ii$d7m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>First of all, people seem to be complaining that on NEXTSTEP we will have
>to pay for a Web browser while on all these other platforms they are
>free (Microsoft Network, Mosaic, etc). But you must realize that you
>are getting what you pay for, so to speak.
This is silly. There are free Windows browsers available, and in OS/2's case
(with the IBM Web Explorer), you can use the stuff built into Warp with any
internet provider you choose.
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Cryptor Bundle under 3.3
Message-ID: <1995Feb10.050426.2432@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <3h9rem$189s@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 05:04:26 GMT
In article <3h9rem$189s@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> swekla@ee.ualberta.ca
(Brent Swekla ) writes:
> Stephen J. Perkins writes
> >
> > I'm using Mail.app (the 3.3 version) under 3.2. I successfully
> > installed CryptorBundle-1.0 on the 3.2 mailer. However, it
> > refuses to work on 3.3. It always says I don't have 'encryption'
> > installed.
> >
> > Anybody have it working on 3.3?
>
> This may not be related to your problem (Mail 3.3 with NS3.2?!) but...
>
> I used CryptorBundle frequently under NS3.2 with no problems. Now that
> I've upgraded to NS3.3, encryption only works sporadically - it seems to
> encrypt ok, but the recipient is not able to decrypt all of the
> messages. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
>
This is a problem of pgp verions 2.3 versus 2.6!
> I suspect that CryptorBundle needs to be tweaked to work with Mail 3.3.
Naye! You just have to get CB 1.2 from the Net. Cures both problems.
--
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From: mgais@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at (Mansuet Gaisbauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: PD X11 for NeXTDimension
Date: 10 Feb 1995 09:11:11 GMT
Organization: IICM, Graz University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MGAIS.95Feb10101111@pluto.tu-graz.ac.at>
I am looking for an PD X11 server for the NeXTDimension board!
(MouseX does not support the NeXTdimension, i think)
I know it's an old and VERY frequently asked question, but i
didn't get an answer and didn't find any information on it.
Maybe someone can help me this time.
Gaisbauer Mansuet
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| A-8020 Graz |
|-------------------------------------|
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Most Pictures won't display in OmniWeb
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:00:18 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950210190018.4544AACUS.malc@daneel>
References: <3gtvch$9bj@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> I have a problem with OmniWeb which doesn't show me all pictures.
[...]
> I have installed Version 3.1 of OmniImageFilterServices, but
> it doesn't seem to know about some special gif formats.
>
You probably want version 3.1.1 which was released around the same time as
OmniWeb 0.9.x
Have fun,
mmalc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Announce: Frag and Cost Analysis Utilities available
Message-ID: <1995Feb12.100152.3251@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <3hdp9o$mtd@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 10:01:52 GMT
In article <3hdp9o$mtd@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> loehwing@ix.netcom.com (Rudi
Loehwing) writes:
...munch...
> The Fragmentation Cost Analysis is being packaged with Executive
> Software's recently released Fragmentation Analysis Utility, which gives
> Data Center Managers a precise and comprehensive analysis
> of Vax or AXP disk fragmentation. Both products are provided free of
> charge to qualified system managers.
>
> "The FAU and FCA were created to enable systems managers to see the
> impact of fragmentation, " says Mr. Butler. "Executive Software's
> purpose is to improve conditions at computer sites, not just sell
> software."
>
> Executive Software, the leading VAX system software developer, has
> ranked on Inc. Magazine's list of the 500 Fastest Growing Private
> companies for four years in a row. Their Technical Support team has won
> the Software Magazine Sentry Market Research User's Choice Award for
> Software Service & Support three times.
>
Have I missed the intro of OPENSTEP for VAX/VMS or why is this appearing
here ;-)
BTW, disk defrag is included in VAX/VMS since (oh, I forgot when I did
dispose of the last machine). But this is is as irrelevant as the whole
initial posting...
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From: axel@siggi.physik.tu-berlin.de (Axel Kilian)
Subject: Help: need X11 for NS 2.x on black hardware
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <D3xz6E.Dsq@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 14:06:13 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
its all in the subject. I have found Xnext.Color (X for NeXTs with color and
Mouse-X) on sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/2.0/bin. Apparently I need the
x11 version Mouse-X to run it. Does anyone know where I can find it?
axel@siggi.physik.tu-berlin.de
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Software that can read .pdf files?
Date: 13 Feb 1995 15:53:39 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3hnva3$a3@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <D3rIHL.7vt@ncifcrf.gov>
In article <D3rIHL.7vt@ncifcrf.gov> kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman)
writes:
> The subject line pretty much says it all. Is there a NEXTSTEP
program
> that can read .pdf files, which are supposed to be portable files by
Adobe.
>
> David Kelman
> kelman@ncifcrf.gov (No NeXTMail, please)
Tailor 2.0 by FirstClass NV can open and read .pdf files but does not
support the hyper links. Let me know if you'd like more infromation.
--
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(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: need fax software
In-Reply-To: swift@bu.edu's message of 10 Feb 1995 23:42:40 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Feb13112030@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
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References: <3hga0p$llk@hegel.sscnet.ucla.edu> <SWIFT.95Feb10184241@acs3.bu.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 16:20:29 GMT
>>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Swift <swift@bu.edu> writes:
Matthew> Hi, the only faxing software that is available for
Matthew> NextStep, unless I am mistaken, is NXFax from Black and
Matthew> White Software for $135. It's on
Matthew> http:/ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/demos/comm/NXFax1.04.pkg (name
Matthew> is not exact...); demo mode lets you send 1-page faxes.
Matthew> Unfortunately, your modem is not on their list of
Matthew> "tested" modems, which I include below. You can contact
Matthew> them at 802/496/8500, or nxfax@bandw.com
Matthew> ---------------
Matthew> Supported modems ,
Matthew> This release of NXFax has been tested with the following
Matthew> modems:
(...)
NXFax will not work on the USR Sporster because this modem only
supports class 1. NXFax only works with class 2 modems. No driver
for a class 1 modem exists for NS.
Francois Magnan
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From: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: cancel <3gm5fh$nut@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Message-ID: <D3xEI1.395@chemelex.com>
Organization: Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 06:39:36 GMT
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: DOTS and 3.3
Message-ID: <1995Feb13.022604.2877@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 02:26:04 GMT
Has anyone had problems with DOTS on 3.3? I can not get it to work on two
different machines. Machine one has a HPLJ 2. Machine two has a HPLJ4.
I have it working on tow machine running 3.2/
Alls help is appreciated.
THanks
WEs
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From: markl@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Albert Markl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Running NIS on Cube in concurrence to Netinfo
Date: 13 Feb 1995 17:06:40 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <3ho3j0$gjj@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Hi Folks!
Has anybody ever tried this (successfully)? We have a few machines
which do not like to talk netinfo on our network.
Our Cube (running NS 3.2) always chokes about the "ypservers" map.
Using makedbm -u to decompile the maps give a very reasonable result,
so I really wonder what is wrong.
Back in the old 2.1 days this step succeeded, but then sendmail
wouldn't work anymore... Is NIS just another standard only verbally
supported by NeXT?
Any help and/or pointer is appreciated (think I've read most of the
NeXT docs about NIS).
Thanks
Al
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: me@next.lnf.infn.it ("Earl C. Gero")
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
Subject: Lost all color in Improv
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 09:43:22 +0000
Message-ID: <9502130943.AA00308@next.lnf.infn.it>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Ciao,
I have recently discovered that all my Improv graphs no longer
display any color. The only things that have happened since these
graphs had color were
1.) the default database got corrupted, I had to copy the root
account database into the me account.
2.) I upgraded from 3.0 to 3.3 (this is on a Color NeXTstation).
I tried using DefJam.app to change the PresentationBuilder defaults
NXColorPanelMode and NXColorPickerSlidersDefaults from 0 to 1. That
doesn't work. Running Improv resets them back to 0. Is there a way
to restore color to Improv?
Earl C. Gero
No, the C. doesn't stand for capybara.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: me@next.lnf.infn.it ("Earl C. Gero")
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
Subject: OmniWeb and .gz files
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 09:43:26 +0000
Message-ID: <9502130947.AA00317@next.lnf.infn.it>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Ciao,
I recently tried to view a .gz file with OmniWeb.app. OmniWeb
doesn't automatically uncompress a file so what appeared in
the browser was gibberish. So I wanted to save the file and
use Opener.app to uncompress it. Since I didn't see a "save
file" option in the OmniWeb menus, I tried "select all" and
"copy" and then pasted the result into a blank Edit view and
then saved that. When I tried to uncompress this, Opener
gave the error message "gunzip:stdin:not in gzip format".
This file is in gzip format. Is there a way to view this
file?
Earl C. Gero
No, the C. doesn't stand for capybara.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: diederic@icgned.nl (Diederic Vlamings)
Subject: Is Parabase V3.0 the 5-cube app?
Message-ID: <D3y5wn.613@icgned.nl>
Keywords: Parabase, RDBMS, developer, EOF
Sender: news@icgned.nl
Organization: IC Group
Distribution: dvlamings@icgned.nl (Diederic Vlamings)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 16:31:35 GMT
.........................................................................
In the 10-most-wanted-list / premiere issue of NeXTWORLD (1992) many
readers pointed out the wish for relational database-tools to create &
manage DB front-ends with a SQL/4GL script-language approach.
In my opinion Parabase 2.0 (just released) has the potential to become the
5-cube app. I've used Parabase 1.1 which lacks a tableview, API and
support for at least 5 databases. These must-haves seems to be covered
now, together with database set-up-maintain tools; backup/mirroring;
security; front-end window/TableView/Script design; powerful
report-generator and most important; extended API support.
V3.0 will even cover a GraphPalette for live-charts.
I would like to read more about your experience with Parabase / EOF
projects. BTW: There is a rumor about Lighthouse developing an EOF CASE.
More input - Papier Hier please.
IC Group bv
Diederic Vlamings
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Subject: KI FAQ 5.4 Repost pt2
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-------begin part 2 ------------
***********
* Glacius *
***********
Description:
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 300
Age: UNKNOWN
An alien being from a distant planet. Crash landing on Earth, he was
captured by Ultratech, hoping to prove the aliens are inferior, they
force Glacius to fight for his life.
A ice creature who looks like he is from Terminator 2. He has these
weird fang like features on his face. He has many moves that are easy to
do, but connecting with the moves can be difficult.
Known Moves:
Ice Stab: F,D,D&B,1
Puddle Port: B,D,F,4 or HCT,4
Puddle Uppercut: B,D,F,(5 or 6) or HCT,(5 or 6)
Frost Ball: B,D,F,Punch or HCT, Punch
Shoulder Slam: B,F,Punch
Overhead Hammer: HCB,3
Reverse Uppercut: B,D,F,6 then B,D,F,5 or HCT,6 then HCT,5
Power Frost Ball: (H)1,QCT,(R)1 (When powered up)
Ball only bounce once and flies quickly at the opponent.
Shadow Uppercut: HCT,3 (When Powered up)
Knockdown Attack: ???
Combo Ender: Icepick, Frostball, PuddlePunch, Shoulder charge.
Air Juggle: B,D,F,6 or HCT,6
Air Combo: Jump,6,F,B,5
Combos:
3 hit combo: (dizzy) B,3,F,3,B,3
7 hit combo: D,F,D,B,5,B,3,3,D,F,3
7 hit combo: B,F,3,B,2,D,F,6
8 hit combo: B,F,3,B,2,D,F,3
? hit combo: B,F,3,2,2,HCB,3 (ultra at end of match)
Combo Moves:
B,3 -------- (2)
B,2 -------- (3)
B,D,F,5 ---- (3 + end)
B,D,F,6 ---- (3 + air)
B,D,F,3 ---- (4 + air)
F,D,D&B,1 -- (4 + air)
Ultra: B,F,3
Ultra 22 hit combo: B,F,3,B,2,F,3
Ultimate 5 hit Pool: B,F,3,B,2,F,D,D&B,1
Combo breaker: F,D,D&B,1 or B,F,3
Humiliation: F,F,B,4
No Mercy1: B,D,F,2 or HCT,2
Glacius extends a long pick from his hand freezing his opponent by
touching them.
No Mercy2: F,D,B,5 or HCB,5
Glacius turns into a liquid metal blob and covers his opponent
resulting in the opponent being absorbed.
No Mercy3: B,B,B,6
Glacius turns into a pool of liquid metal and slides under the
opponent. The opponent is sucked down into the pool.
Ending: After he escapes from Ultratech's grasp, Glacious returns to the
site of his crashed spaceship. With the advanced technology present at
Ultratech, Glacious can take the materials he needs and repair his damaged
ship. As the memories of the evil he faced at Ultratech slowly fade,
Glacious begins the long arduous trek back to his home world.
**********
* Spinal *
**********
Description:
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 110
Age: 2650
An unprecedented discovery in cell regeneration, Ultratech have recreated
an ancient warrior from the past. Having no memory, and lacking in purpose
he fights regardless.
He's a Skeleton warrior. He wields a huge scimitar in his left hand and a
shield in his right. Wears a red bandanna around his head. And he lets
loose this really evil (ala Tales from the Crypt) laugh when he wins.
Spinal can Morph into the other characters, but only the character
he is fighting against!
Easy way to beat Eyedol: (Once you got that far and probably died),
continue and do the Combo Breaker Code (Down and start on both joystick
before the round) Then do the Morph move and use Eyedol to beat Eyedol.
As soon as he starts to fight back, do the combo breaker. (Be careful
not to blow up).
**** Infinite Powerup (Confirmed) With only 1 circleing skull, hold 1, Half
Circle Towards, Press 2 and release 1. Spinal Will throw 2 Skulls! You
opponent will think...humm must be a glitch, but now you can throw 2
fireballs ANY time with that same movement. You can also throw single
fireballs with the usual HCT,Punch. Spinal can still do combo-breakers but
CANNOT absorb any projectiles or he will blow up! He will be Powered up
for the rest of the match!
Known Moves:
Absorption Shield: B,1 (hold till hit with a projectile)
Flaming Skull: B,D,F, Punch or HCT,2 (only with circling skulls!)
Red Skull: (H)1,B,D,F,(R)1 or (H)1,HCT,(R)1
Teleport Front: D,D,D,3 Teleports to infront of opponent.
Teleport Back: D,D,D,6 Teleports behind his opponent.
Charge: F,F, Punch
Slide: D,6
Super Slash: B,F,2 (Spins twice if you have a skull)
RCM: F,B,2 (Super Slash)
Morph: After starting a combo,tap D,D,D,button. This
will morph him into his opponent, do a combo,
then morph back. Depending on which button you
use, he will do a different opponent combo.
When he morphs his NAME changes on top.
Air Teleport Front: (H)1,jump,d,d,(R)1 Jumps then teleports
Air Teleport Back: (H)4,jump,d,d,(R)4 " " "
Air Juggle: B,D,F,1 (only from a morphing combo, and must
have a circling skull)
Air Combo: Jump,6,F,B,5
Combo Enders: Morph or F,F,3
Combos:
3 hit combo: (dizzy) F,F,1,3,F,F,3
6 hit combo: F,F,1,F,F,1,F,F,1
9 hit combo: Jump,6,F,F,1,B,3,3,3,F,F,3,F,3.
(you can add a slide onto it if it worked!)
9 hit combo: B,F,2,F,F,1,B,3,F,F,3
13 hit combo: F,F,1,F3,B2,B3,F3,D,D,D,3
? hit combo: F,F,(3+6), 2*QCT,3 (2 times QCT)
Combo Moves:
B,2 --------- (2)
D,D,D, Any -- (2 to 4 + end or air)
B,3 --------- (3)
B,5 --------- (3)
F,F,2 ------- (3 + end)
F,F,1 ------- (4 + end)
F,F,3 ------- (4 + end)
Ultra: HCB,1
Ultra 23 hit combo: B,F,2,F,F,1,B,3,3,3,D,B,D,F,3
Ultra ?? hit combo: B,F,2,B,D,F,3 (must have at least 1 skull)
Combo Breaker: F,F,2 (Try F, then F and 2 at the same time)
or D,D,6 still works!
Humiliation: B,D,F,6 or HCT,6
No Mercy: B,B,B,5 (anywhere)
Another skeleton comes out of the ground and grabs opponent's body,
and brings it down with him!
No Mercy2: B,B,F,4 (close)
Spinal slices the opponent with a sword twice and then pierces him with
a spike that emerges from his shield 3 times! (Very cool)
* Rumor No Mercy 3: ??
A Giant Asteroid comes down and crushes you.
Note about the Absorption shield. If you have at least one skull around you
then some of your moves will give you a second hit. Also, Spinal can only
have up to six skulls. If he gets anymore then that, he will explode and
be left with only one skull.
Ending: Tired of being constantly surrounded by death and destruction,
Spinal decides on a career change. Although nominated for an Oscar for his
first film, Spinal still has difficulty finding roles with meat in them.
*************
* B. Orchid *
*************
Description:
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 125
Age: 23
A secret agent sent to investigate the mysterious disappearances that
surround the Ultratech contest. Her true identity and abilities are
shrouded in secret.
She wears a green jumpsuit and wields two little sticks (sorta like nunchuks
without the chain). These sticks glow when she hits and can magically
lengthen to about 3' so they can be used like light sabres for some
specialty moves. She moves very quickly but, her moves don't do much
damage. But can do some easy combos! On her jumpsuit are the words HOT
on both sides.
Known Moves:
Backflip Kick: B,6.
Tiger Morph: B,F, Punch
Helicopter Kick: B,F, Kick
Laser Boomerang: B,D,F, Punch or HCT,Punch
Spinning Slash: F,D,D&B,3
Helicopter Blade: F,D,D&B,(1 or 2)
Shadow Blade: (H)2,F,D,D&B,(R)2 (When powered up)
Shadow Tiger: (H)3,B,F,(R)3 (When powered up)
Knockdown Attack: B,F,6
Air Fireball: ????
Air Juggle: B,D,F,1 or HCT,1
Air Combo: Jump,6,F,B,2
Combo Enders: HCF,3
B,F,4
B,F,5
F,D,DB,3
B,F,1,1
Combos:
3 hit combo: (dizzy) F,D,D&B,1,F,D,D&B,1,F,D,D&B,1
7 hit combo: Jump,6,B,D,F,6,B,6
? hit combo: B,F,6,B,F,6
9 hit combo: B,F,6,B,6,D,F,3
20 hit combo: F,D,D&B,2,F,1,B,1,4,F,6,B,6,F,D,D&B,2,F,1,B,1,
F,D,D&B,3,pause,B,D,F,1
24 hit combo: B,F,6,B,1,F,6,B,1,F,6,B,1,F,5,pause,B,D,F,1
Combo Moves:
F,1 -------- (1 after a medium helicopter kick)
B,1 -------- (3)
B,6 -------- (2 after a fierce helicopter kick)
B,2 -------- (2)
B,4 -------- (3)
B,F,5 ------ (3)
B,F,6 ------ (3)
B,5 -------- (3 + air)
B,D,F,3 ---- (4 + end)
B,F,4 ------ (4 + air)
F,D,D&B,3 -- (4 + air)
Ultra: B,F,2
Ultra 35 hit combo: F,D,D&B,2,F,1,B,1,4,F,6,B,6,F,D,D&B,2,F,1,B,1,
F,2,pause,B,D,F,1
Ultra 37 hit combo: B,F,6,B,1,F,6,B,1,F,6,B,1,F,2,pause,B,D,F,1
Ultimate 6 hit Ho: B,F,6,B,1,F,D,D&B,6
Combo Breaker: B,F,6
Humiliation: F,D,B,3 or HCB,3
No Mercy: D,F,B,4 (Stand about 1 person away)
The opponent turns into a frog. After that press 6 and if you're close
enough you will step on them and kill them! (Press up and 2 (alot) then
after they come back to like, HCT,3 does a impressive 3 hit combo!)
No Mercy 2: B,B,F,F,1
Orchid turns to opponent and opens up her shirt to expose chest to them.
Opponent falls over dead. (Another Orchid just gets upset.)
Ending: Orchid escapes unscathed with vital information about Ultratech's
corrupt future plans. She informs her superiors of Ultratech's evil
intentions so they can act to bring about the corporation's destruction.
*****************
* Chief Thunder *
*****************
Description:
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 280
Age: 42
Mystical defender of native Americans, Thunder enters the contest in
order to uncover the mystery surrounding his brother's disappearance in
the previous year's tournament.
A Native American chief with tomahawks. Very quick, very strong, very
cool graphically.
Known Moves:
Head Attack: F,D,B, Punch
(If you miss then do the second part of this below. Only if used 3.)
Reverse Head Attack: F,D,B,3
(In the air after a miss. He then dives at the opponent.)
Tomahawk Throw: B,D,F, Kick (You can move the tomahawk up or down.)
Spinning Chop: B,F, Punch
Jumbo Tomahawk: (H)5,B,D,F,(R)5
Shadow Tomahawk Dive: (H)3,F,D,B,(R)3 or (H)3,HCB,(R)3
RCM: F,B,2
Combo Enders: Medium and Fierce Head Attacks, or HCF,6
Air Juggle: B,D,F,1
Air Combo: Jump,6,HCB,2
Combos:
9 hit combo: Jump,B,6,3,F,3,B,3,D,F,6
? hit combo: B,F,3,B,F,1
11 hit combo: B,F,3,B,6,F,D,B,(2 or 3),pause,B,D,F,4
13 hit combo: B,F,3,B,6,F,6,D,B,2,pause,B,D,F,4
Combo Moves:
B,2 ------ (1)
B,6 ------ (2)
B,F,6 ---- (2)
B,D,F,6 -- (4 + end)
B,F,2 ---- (4)
B,F,3 ---- (4)
B,F,1 ---- (4 + air)
F,D,B,2 -- (4 + air)
F,D,B,3 -- (4 + air)
Ultra: B,F,1
Ultra 25 hit combo: B,F,3,B,6,F,6,B,2,F,1,pause,B,D,F,4
Ultra ?? hit combo: B,F,3,B,F,1
Ultimate 7 hit Energy: B,F,3,B,6,F,6,F,D,D&B,2
Ultimate: HCB,2
Combo Breaker: HCB,2
Humiliation: D,D,D,F,4
No Mercy: B,D,F,3 (About 3 inches away)
He will do a sort of rain dance, aim his axe at the enemy, who will then
go into convulsions as electricity seems to hit him.
No Mercy 2: F,D,B,6
He does a super hatchet uppercut, resulting with various parts remaining
of the different opponents.
* No Mercy 3: D,B,B,F,(4/5) Only works on the older chip version
He does a exploding Tomahawk spin. (Stand Close)
Ending: After discovering the fate of his brother, Thunder contemplates the
future and mourns the loss of Eagle. But, with his death avenged, Eagle's
soul can finally rest in peace forever. Or can it....
***********
* Fulgore *
***********
Description:
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 560
Age: 1
A prototype cybernetic soldier developed by Ultratech, entered into the
contest as a final tests of it's capabilities before mass production
can begin.
He is a grayish metallic looking guy with blue veins running all over the
surface. He has two large blue glowing sloth-like claws on each hand. He
also has a funky looking crest on his head. He has VERY fast kicks, and
combos. Looks like a next generation predator.
(Lots of conflicting data from people. I will try to verify these myself
by the next FAQ)
Known Moves:
Electric Bolts: B,D,F, Punch
Electric Charge: B,F, Kick
Uppercut: F,D,F, Punch
Lightning Bolt: F,D,D&B,6 (Push back twice, and he shoots out 2)
Reflector: F,D,B, Punch
Fire Balls: B,B,D,F,1(throws 2) F,B,B,D,F,1 (throws 3)
Teleport Near: B,D,B, Punch
Teleport Far: B,D,B, Kick
RCM: (H)6,B,F,(R)6
Shadow Charge: (H)6,B,F,(R)6
* Shadow Move: (H) 3,F,D,F,(R)3
Shadow Combo!: (H)6,(H)3,b,f,(R)6,5,f,d,f,(R)3
Combo Enders: Quick,Medium, Fierce Uppercuts
B,F,5
B,D,B,1
Air Juggle: B,B,D,F,1 (2 energy bolts)
Air Combo: Jump,6,F,D,F,2
To do a shrink move, do a combo on the Desert Roof (D,Start) to your
opponent near the edge, then do one of the following below (Immediatly)
and either you or your opponent will be up to the others knees!
Shrink Yourself: B,D,B,4
Shrink Opponent: B,D,B,6
Combos:
6 hit combo: Jump,6,D,3,F,D,F,3
? hit combo: B,F,6,4,4,1 (keep hitting 1)
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Subject: KI FAQ 5.4 Repost pt2
From: FLOYD@RIPCO.COM
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 95 08:59:00 -0640
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8 hit combo: B,F,6,3,B,6,F,D,F,3
10 hit combo: B,F,4,B,1,F,D,D&B,6,F,D,F,3
13 hit combo: B,F,6,B,6,F,D,D&B,6,B,1,F,D,F3
Combo Moves:
B,6 -------- (2)
5 ---------- (2 after charge with 6)
6 ---------- (3 after charge with 6)
F,D,D&B,6 -- (2)
B,1 -------- (3)
B,F,6 ------ (4 + end)
B,F,5 ------ (4 + end)
B,D,F,2 ---- (4 + end)
B,D,B,1 ---- (4 + end)
F,D,F,3 ---- (4 + end)
F,D,F,2 ---- (3 + air)
Knock into air quick combo: Charge with a 6, then uppercut with 1.
Ultra: F,D,F,1
Ultra 25 hit combo: B,F,4,B,1,F,D,D&B,6,F,D,F,1
Ultra 27 hit combo: B,F,6,B,6,F,D,D&B,6,B,1,F,D,F,1
Ultimate 9 hit Gun: B,F,6,B,6,F,D,D&B,6,B,1,F,D,D&B,2
Combo Breaker: F,D,F,2
Humiliation: B,D,F,5
No Mercy: F,D,D&B,3 (Stand 2 characters away)
He shoots a laserbeam from his head and fries his opponent.
No Mercy 2: B,D,F,6.
His head opens up and a Turret gun blows you away.
Note: He can take ALL of Sabrewulf's bat's by doing the reflector move.
After each reflected bat, they then circle around Fulgore. Sabrewulf will
eventually run out of bats!
The combat test of the Fulgore series assault cyborg has been a success, and
mass production can now begin. after years of research, an awesome weapon
is in Ultratech's hands. The dawn of a robot-controlled empire will soon
begin. The first prototype model, Fulgore 1, is deactivated and placed in a
museum. The only humans left to view it are now slaves.
**********
* Cinder * (Formerly Meltdown)
**********
Description:
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 195
Age: 31
A convict, experimented on by Ultratech. A failed chemical weapon test
mutated his body turning him into living flame. If he defeats Glacius,
he enters the fray.
He is similar to Glacius but he is made of fire! He always has a glow
around him and little puffs of flame coming off him floating upward.
My complaint here is that if player two chooses him, he look's like
Glacius with a red flame around him.
Known Moves:
Human Fireball: F,F,Punch (can be done in the air!)
Human Fireball (combo): B,F,Punch
Flame Thrower: F,F,Kick or B,F,Kick
Flip Kick: F,D,F,Kick
Flaming Palm: B,B,1
Outline: F,D,B,2
Invisible: F,D,B,3
RCM: B,F,punch or B,F,kick
Invisible Teleport Front: F,D,B,1 or HCB,1 (when powered up)
Invisible Teleport Back: (H)1,F,D,B,(R)1 or (H)1,HCB,(R)1
(When Powered up!)
Shadow Human Fireball: (H)2,F,F,(R)2 (When Powered up!)
Air Juggle: F,F,3
Air Combo: Jump,6,F,B,2
Combo Enders: Flip Kicks (Medium is nice)
F,F,2 or B,F,2
Combos:
3 hit combo: (dizzy) B,F,2,B,6,B,B,1
7 hit combo: Jump,6,B,B,1,F,3,6,D,F,6
10 hit combo: B,F,2,B,1,F,D,F,5,pause,F,F,3
13 hit combo: B,F,2,B,1,F,F,1,D,5,F,D,F,5,pause,F,F,3
Combo Moves:
B,6 ------ (1)
B,5 ------ (2)
B,3 ------ (2)
B,2 ------ (3)
B,1 ------ (3)
F,F,1 ---- (2)
F,F,2 ---- (4 + air)
F,D,F,4 -- (4 + air)
F,D,F,5 -- (4 + air)
F,D,F,6 -- (4 + air)
Ultra: F,F,3
Ultra 25 hit combo: B,F,2,B,1,F,F,1,D,5,F,F,3,pause,F,F,3
Ultimate: HCB,5
Combo Breaker: F,D,F,5
Humiliation: B,B,B,6
No Mercy: B,B,B,2
Cinder forms a hole on the ground that slides under the opponent
and sucks them in.
No Mercy 2: B,D,F,4 or HCT,4
Cinder flares up then shoots a flame from his finger and melts
the opponent into a pool of liquid.
Ending: As he leaves victorious, cinder finds a hostile police reception
waiting for him outside Ultratech's gates. No stranger to confinement
because of his former life of crime, Cinder has no intention of being
imprisoned again. Using his newly acquired power, he easily evades the
law and escapes.
*************
* Sabrewulf *
*************
Description:
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 400
Age: 45
Afflicted with the disease Lycanthropy. Spending most of his life as a
recluse, Sabrewulf enters the tournament on the promise of a cure if
victorious.
Grayish colored wolf/werewolf wearing some torn up green clothing. Very cool
blood dripping from his mouth all the time.
Probably the best guy for beginners.
Known Moves:
Spinning Claw: B,F,Punch (Keep pressing Punch for multipel spins)
Energy Howl: F,D,DB,6 (All his moves will do more damage)
Lunge: F,D,B,Kick or HCB,kick
Throw Bat: F,D,B,Punch or HCB,Punch
Big Slash: B,F,5
Rolling Slash: B,F,4
Leaping Slash: B,F,6
RCM: F,B,2
Combo Enders: B,F,3 or 5 or 6
* 3 Sabrewulf Shadow moves. I can't get them to work, if anyone does let me
know! All 3 must be done while in a combo.
(H)4,B,F,(R)4 Rolling Shadow
(H)5,B,F,(R)5 Shadow uppercut
(H)6,B,F,(R)6 Shadow leap?
Air Juggle: B,F,6
Air Combo: Jump,6,F,B,5
Combos:
2 hit combo:(dizzy) B,F,5,B,5
3 hit combo: (dizzy) B,F,5,B,5,F,5
7 hit combo: Jump,B,6,B&D,6,F,3,3,D,3
? hit combo: B,F,4,3,3,B,F,4
? hit combo: B,F,4,F,2,2,B,3,F,2,2,B,2,F,2,2,B,1
10 hit combo: B,F,4,B,3,F,6,pause,B,F,6
16 hit combo: B,F,4,B,3,F,2,B,2,F,6
Combo Moves:
B,3 ---- (3)
B,1 ---- (3)
B,2 ---- (3)
B,F,2 -- (3)
B,F,3 -- (3)
B,F,1 -- (3 + air)
B,F,4 -- (3 + end)
B,F,5 -- (4 + air)
B,F,6 -- (4 + air)
Ultra: B,F,4
Ultra 31 hit combo: B,F,4,B,3,F,2,2,B,4,pause,B,F,6
Ultimate 11 hit claw: B,F,4,B,3,F,2,B,2,D,F,3
Combo Breaker: B,F,2
Humiliation: F,F,1
No Mercy: B,B,B,5 (About 2 pople away)
Sabrewulf extends a claw and rams it into the gut of his opponent.
No Mercy 2: B,B,F,2 (About one person away)
Sabrewulf spin slaps his opponent onto the glass of the view screen.
Note: Fulgore can take all your bats by reflecting them. You can eventually
run out of bats!
Ending: With victory, Sabrewulf obtains the cure that he's sought for so
long. Rid at last of his curse, Count Van Sabrewulf can lead a normal
existance.
**********
* Riptor *
**********
Description:
Height: 7'0
Weight: 700
Age: 4
A product of Ultratech's DNA manipulation project. By mixing human and
reptilian genes, they hope to cross intelligence and ferocity in a lethal
fighting machine.
Two-legged raptor type dinosaur. Reddish orange in color. When he gets
hit he bleeds purple blood. Seems a little out of place in this game.
Known Moves:
Fireball: F,D,B,Punch
Flame Attack: F,D,D&B,Punch
Charge: B,F,Punch
Leaping Claws: B,F,Kick
Fireball air: F,D,B,Punch (Do it in the air.)
Tail: F,D,D&B,Kick
Big Leap: B,D,F,4
Uppercut Slash: F,D,D&B,1
Blue Fireball: (H)2,HCB,(R)2 (When powered up)
RCM: F,B,kick
Air Juggle: F,D,B,1
Air Combo: Jump,6,F,B,5
Combo Enders: Uppercut,Fierce Fireball, or Big Leap
Combos:
6 hit combo: Jump,6,F,3,D,B,3
? hit combo: B,F,5,3,3,B,F,4
9 hit combo: B,F,4,B,1,F,D,B,3
14 hit combo: B,F,4,B,1,4,F,4,B,1,F,6,pause,F,D,B,1
Combo Moves:
B,6 -------- (1)
B,1 -------- (2)
B,2 -------- (2)
B,F,4 ------ (2)
B,4 -------- (3)
B,F,6 ------ (4 + end)
F,D,B,3 ---- (4 + end)
F,D,D&B,1 -- (4 + air)
Ultra: B,F,4
Ultra 22 hit combo: B,F,4,B,1,4,F,4
Ultra 25 hit combo: B,F,4,B,5,F,5,B,1,F,4,pause,F,D,B,1
Ultra ?? hit combo: B,F,2,B,1,1,1,F,4
Ultimate: HCT,1 (Same as first no Mercy)
Combo Breaker: B,F,6
Humiliation: D,D,F,F,3
No Mercy: B,D,F,2
Riptor jumps at his opponent and the screen goes black. Next you see
him with a big belly burping and farting.
No Mercy 2: B,B,B,5
Riptor spits acid at his opponent frying them.
Rumor No Mercy 3: F,F,B,6 (2 people away)
Ritor Slashes you with his tail.
Ending: Ultratech's plans to create a genetically engineered weapon have
escalated beyond even the company's control. By toying with the laws of
nature, Ultratech has finally doomed the human race. Dinosaurs once again
rule the Earth.
**********
* Eyedol * You can play as him!
**********
He is the 'boss' character. He is a 2 headed giant, wielding a big club.
He swings his club like a baseball bat, he spits fireballs, sometimes 3
in a row. (more once I see him!)
Play As Eyedol: Pick Riptor and hold 1,2,4 and left till the VS screen pops
up, then hold 2,3,6 and right till you hear EYEDOL! You can even play 2
player! His combos are TOUGH, and he is a tough one to play. Use his Golf
Swing a lot!
** Note: His moves do NOT need to charge back, just do B,F move.
Know moves:
Fireball: HCT,punch
Tripple Fireball:
Headbutt Charge: B,F,1 (Good Combo Starter)
Club Swing: B,F,2
Golf Club Swing: B,F,3
Forward Jump Smash: B,F,4
Straight Up Jump Smash: B,F,5
Backward Jump Smash: B,F,6
Stop Ground: B,2 (Does not regain Energy! Maybe after a combo?)
All jumps will avoid projectiles!
*Stomp to 3 Fireballs: B,2,HCF,3
Stomp to Leap Attack: B,2,F,Kick
Stomp to Head Ram: B2,F1
Stomp to Head Ram to Super Golf Swing: B,2,F1,B3
To stop stomping press 2
To stop chargingpress b,1
Air juggle move: B,F,1 (And you can keep your opponent up there like the old
Cheep err Chief Thunder Days)
Combo Breaker: B,F, Punch
? hit Combo: bd1,f1,b5,f3 then Juggle
? hit Combo: b,f,4,b1,f3
? hit Combo: B,F,1,B,3,3,3,3,F,3
Some stuff about playing as him:
Well it was fun for the first 2 times... after that nobody has been really
interested. His combo's are tough to do, and without knowing any fatalities
it makes him kinda boring. Hopefully we will know more soon!
My guess is Midway leaked this because their new Chip will ship soon
and will probably be different in how you play Eyedol, and decided to
get their money's worth.
I also agree with a post that said DO NOT tell everyone about this. I
also do not want to be fighting Eyedol EVERY time I play against some
newbie squid.
Play as Eyedol Bug! I haven't had a chance to try it, mostly because it
has not been duplicated yet. But here is what happened. A friend was
playing as spinal (against Eyedol) Did the morph into Eyedol and hit
START (with credits in the machine). (He hit the opposite start button).
then the screen showed the Eyedol square and another with the second
player. He hit start again (on both) and boom. He WAS Eyedol. The only
move figured out was back and 3 for the club against the ground. NO
charge back then F moves (yet). We could not do it again (tried for
about 2 hours). More as I find out! Don't waste your money till we get
the details straightened out.
He regains his health by stomping in place!
He can shoot 3 fast fireballs at once.
Ending: Haven't seen it, but told it was funny.
_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
_/ Miscellaneous Stuff _/
_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
**********
* Rumors *
**********
The game was designed in Europe, and just created here.
There are more then just Humiliations, and No Mercy's.
There are some hidden characters.
There are more then 2 hidden levels.
The current version number of the latest release is 1.4
Midway is changing moves and Stages with every release version to make
the FAQ un-accurate. (So if something doesn't work..let me)
********
* Bugs *
********
TJ Combo's Ultimate does not say Ultimate afterwards...just the kind of
combo.
Not known, but most likely a hardware bug that is also in SOME MK II
machines, nobody will be able to move. The characters just stand there.
If you hit the machine (near the joystick's) this will free them up.
At a arcade here, this is a constant and they will NOT fix them. They
have signs that say play at your own risk... no refund!
**How to fix this problem! It seems that the grounding wire is a bit too
long and gets bent up and touches the controls. If you take the wire and
ground it to the screw in the middle of the control panel by the edge, and
make sure it's tight, so it wont touch anything when the panel is shut, this
should fix it! If your arcade has this problem, please suggest this fix.
Both Jago and Orchid (computer players) seem to be able to do Ultimate's
during the first round! Please fix this Midway!
When the computer used to say No Mercy, it now says 'Danger Danger' Which
IMHO is a little too late. Hopefully this will be changed back! It should
say danger when you have about 2 hits left! (To let your opponent know when
to start the ultimate combo ;-)
Just a personal thing. Midway needs to fix the collision detection for jump
over attacks. Either make it like Kombat or take them out. But jumping over
someone then pressing kick once you past is a CHEESY way to get in hits.
********
* Misc *
********
Release Dates: (yea) It should be everywhere.
Thanks to a certain new inside source I am finding out about the
air combo's and many of the Hold button moves. Just when I thought
I could do some catching up, we discover many more moves.
z
(continued next message)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: KI FAQ 5.4 Repost pt2
From: FLOYD@RIPCO.COM
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1.12140.2592.0N27F10E@RIPCO.COM>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 95 08:59:00 -0640
Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434
z(Continued from last message)
Apologies for not refining many things yet. I know that many moves
only require QCT and not half's. I am working on it. The holidays were
very busy. I plan on updating this soon, because I am sure I will
find out about the Air Combos in the next few days! I will try to
update it atleast once every 2 weeks. (more often as important moves
come in.)
This FAQ is also available by FTP, courtesy of GamePro magazine's Andy Eddy.
Just FTP to netcom.com and cd /pub/vi/vidgames/faqs. Hopefully the latest
version will always be here. So if your in doubt about which version you
have, give this place a try.
It is also on Karl Czapla's site. This is a place to get it if you do not
have FTP access. Just Send mail to : kczapla@night.vtc.vsc.edu
with the subject: send lmtkill
And you will receive the FAQ in your mail! (Very easy)
Hopefully the list of places to get this FAQ will grow. If you have a FAQ
site, let me know!
The latest version will also be in the rec.games.video.arcade news!
Midway, Nintendo, Ultra64, Killer Instinct, Mortal Kombat, Terminator, and
all other trademarks used in this FAQ are hereby acknowledged.
I am not associated with anyone! And take no responsibility for anything.
(Except for this FAQ)
*** Please DO NOT call any of these companies begging for moves or hints.
It will only hurt relations! If you have some big questions ask me, and I
will TRY to get an answer! Getting answers from them has been a very
touchy subject, and we are trying to keep an opening here. Thank you.
This list below is in order of information given to me, so please
no whining without reason!
Credits and Thank You's!
Brian L. Smolik (me).....................floyd@ripco.com
John George .............................jvl@ripco.com
Michael J. Kokal ........................mjk@paragonind.com
Steve Christofferson ....................sbchrist@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu
Spencer Olson ...........................olsospe@elof.acc.iit.edu
Scott Wiersum ...........................swiersum@interaccess.com
Benjamin Novak ..........................b-novak@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu
Zakarius "Pappy" ........................Zakarius@aol.com
Billy J. Bissette .......................bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu
Andy Eddy ...............................vidgames@netcom.com
Chris Nicolella .........................none yet.
Utz Vogt ................................Deathlove@aol.com
Karl Czapla .............................kczapla@night.vtc.vsc.edu
Steven D. Gould .........................Bhubsc01@solix.fiu.edu
Henry Wu ................................henrywu@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Pericom .................................EQR8KHOKHAM.UNL.AC.UK
Henry Ha ................................ST501@Jetson.UH.EDU
The Immortal Spam .......................spam@ccs.neu.edu
RpM .....................................RPM@uh.edu
Patrick Stewart .........................pbstewa@eng.clemson.edu
Damon Howell ............................dmangh@creighton.edu
Fred ....................................infacyc@prism.gatech.edu
Fubar ...................................fubar@netaxs.com
Don Mlnarik .............................tbird@creighton.edu
Daniel Markham ..........................batman@vpnet.chi.il.us
Joey Kovach .............................RONKO104@delphi.com
Ninjak ..................................ninjak@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Frodis!!! ...............................frodisman@aol.com
Mitch Burton ............................peldor@netcom.com
Lewis Tu ................................lewis2@delphi.com
Mike Durler .............................michael@crash.cts.com
Peter Laviniere .........................z007910b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
Chris McCullough ........................25096@ef.gc.maricopa.edu
Graeme Stewart ..........................graemes@interlog.com
Scott Burciaga ..........................banzaiar@netcom.com
Miles Hardison...........................skater555@aol.com
Jason Deen...............................jbdeen@email.oit.unc.edu
John Gray ...............................Jgray@grits.valdosta.peachnet.edu
Peter Momot .....(sorry for last time)...mupm2@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Christopher King.........................chking@unity.ncsu.edu
Mike Long ...............................mikelong@ispace.com
Robert Adkins ...........................radkins@outernet.greensboro.nc.us
Solo.....Thanks a ton!...................c638153@showme.missouri.edu
Shiva ...................................smtt28e@prodigy.com
Warprat .................................somewhere on prodigy!
Dr Daytona ..............................Daytona@aol.com
Mike Zsoter..............................None
Eric Meiferdt............................None
Jeff Yang ...............................None
Steven Petroniak ........................None
Jason Homesley ..........................None
And anyone else I forgot! If you should be here, drop me a line and
I will get you in next time! (Sorry).
Like I said before, this FAQ would not of been possible without everyone's
help! Thanks a million! This list gets any longer I will need a Credits FAQ!
Special Thanks
Several Midway Reps. for giving what information they could at the time,
and will hopefully be as helpful in the near future. They know
who they are ;-)
Nintendo .....................................Nintendo of America
Midway ......(thanks for the trouble).........Williams/Bally/Midway
RareGame .....................................Rareware
--
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why is setting up TranSys PNI nearly impossible for mere mortals?
Date: 14 Feb 1995 01:41:50 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hp1ov$h2t@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3hij87$a4p@pub01.va.pubnix.com>
louie@va.pubnix.com (Louis A. Mamakos) writes:
> SLIP *is* simple. It's when people want to arrange to have
> packets routed back to their hosts, to be able to use all manner
> of weird, cheap modems and strange terminal servers is when things
> get difficult. I built a power tool, with exposed, rotating
> blades mostly for people who are familiar with the technology.
Note that it's not the people's fault that they get to use all
kinds of strange terminal servers. They can't very well buy
their own terminal server.
> - Second, the problems that people have are not solved by a GUI.
> They're routing problems on the *other* end. They are broken
> serial drivers in the kernel. They are fundamental misunderstanding
> on what the software can do for them. They are sendmail config
> problems. They are a continuing series of @#$&*(%@ NetInfo
> problems which I can't control. They are folks trying to do
> dynamic IP address assignment using a simple protocol (SLIP)
> which doesn't accomodate such things.
One can do dymanic IP address assignment OK, although getting
mail to work completely right with that is something I haven't
tackled.
> There is only *one* config file that you have to specify perhaps
> 20 lines of information in. My implementing a NeXTSTEP-specific
> GUI will not appreciably help the situation, nor did it seem a
> terribly strategic
This overlooks the place where people spend most their time on
when trying to get SLIP working. You first have to write the
tcl files for your modem and your terminal server. This is not
trivial, and certainly it's much more work that the config file
you're talking about.
Of course, when it comes to the tcl files that handle the modem
and the server, I'm not sure it's possible to write a good GUI
interface. So, even though I'm disagreeing with your comment
on the one config file, I'm not sure I have any answer to how
to make it easier to do the *real* work...
It would be nice if it understood the BOOTP stuff (or PPP), at
which point it'd be much easier to setup in a dynamic IP situation.
> To balance this, you risk only your time trying to make the
> software, and if SLIP-only is all you need, you get to use it
> forever for free, with no shareware begging, as my gift to the
> NeXT community. I think that it's pretty clear in the documentation
> that the software is intended for the SLIP- and networking-literate,
> and that there's limited support available. Unlike some NeXTSTEP
> developers, I don't make a living just doing that - I have another
> job which is consuming increasing amounts of time.
I think this is quite a nice contribution to the NeXTSTEP community,
and given this much the rest of us should be able to figure out
the config file issues. Now that I have TransSys PNI working, it's
very nice to have.
> You can also track down the PPP port that someone is doing, which
> is available in source form, I think. It's free, but you pretty
> much fend for yourself. I believe that this is a kernel line
> discipline based implementation and doesn't use the documented
> kernel API. This may or may not cause problems with future OS
> upgrades (if there are any?) unless someone at NeXT decides to
> take out some code.
>
> I'm probably not going to implement PPP because of this free
> software on the one hand, and the Morning Star PPP on the other.
This is disappointing [note that I speak as someone who paid for
the CSLIP version of PNI, so I'm not just sitting here asking for
even more free work]. The reality of the world is that a lot of
people *must* deal with a dynamic IP setup, whether unix gurus
like it or not. Maybe someday everyone can have fixed IP addresses,
but that day isn't today.
> It's also quite a bit of work to implement and debug, and the
> time required to do so just isn't available.
I can appreciate this, of course.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; ####################################################################
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lost all color in Improv
Date: 14 Feb 1995 01:06:53 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
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Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hph9t$ebr@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <9502130943.AA00308@next.lnf.infn.it>
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.rutgers.edu
me@next.lnf.infn.it ("Earl C. Gero") writes:
>1.) the default database got corrupted, I had to copy the root
> account database into the me account.
When you did this you hosed your 'color enabling dwrites' for Improv and PB.
>I tried using DefJam.app to change the PresentationBuilder defaults
>NXColorPanelMode and NXColorPickerSlidersDefaults from 0 to 1. That
>doesn't work. Running Improv resets them back to 0. Is there a way
>to restore color to Improv?
I don't think those are the correct dwrites for color. I forget the correct
ones. Also, when you copied over the root defaults database to your account,
did you do a chown on them--if not, that may be why you can't change your
defaults database.
Hope that helps,
Later, John
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: QuickTime viewer for 3.0<=NS<3.3?
Date: 14 Feb 1995 12:39:18 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hq89m$cd5@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3hj51s$4ot@news.iastate.edu>
In article <3hj51s$4ot@news.iastate.edu> sela@iastate.edu writes:
>
> Does anybody know of a QuickTime viewer for NS 3.1?
>
> --
> *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
> * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) *
> * --------------------------------------------------------- *
> * He who throws mud loses ground. *
> ****************************************************************
Or a QuickTime viewer (or converter to mpeg, avi, etc) for NS3.0
Thanx
--
Sven Droll __
______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
sdroll@wmax68.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/
/_ _/ _/
"...and I see your schwartz =====\_/=======
is as big as mine" (Dark Helmet) LOGOUT FASCISM!
___________________________________________________________________
NeXT-mail welcome ;-))
From: sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PNI login to Livingston Portmaster
Date: 12 Feb 1995 20:16:14 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hmbsu$inf@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Keywords: PNI, Livingston, Portmaster
In an attempt to get SLIP going under NS3.3, I got an internet account
with a fixed IP address. I have commented out most of the commands
in the sample login-portmaster.tcl login script since it seems to be
for a dynamic ip login, is that correct? All I do is give my user name
and password and the server goes into SLIP mode. The pni.log file says
it can not autobaud the terminal server.
I am using a USR 28.2 modem at 9600 on a 486-DX4-100 with 16550 UARTS.
TIA for any help.
Steven C. Perkins sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: aebersol@titan.admin.gettysburg.edu (Dennis R. Aebersold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 13 Feb 1995 18:50:34 GMT
Organization: Gettysburg College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ho9lq$q1b@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
Adobe provides their reader for most platforms, free. Any chance we'll
see one for NeXT?
-dennis
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MailingLabel printing SW for NeXT?
Date: 13 Feb 1995 19:07:46 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hoam2$su9@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Hello, all.
I am in need of some mailing label printing software for my NeXT; I'd
like to be able to use the adhesive, many-on-a-8.5x11-sheet, labels in
my NeXT laserprinter.
Any recommendations of public domain (preferred) or commercial
software to accomplish this?
Cheers,
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
David A. Sinclair -
ASCII email: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu NeXTmail: circe@id.wing.net
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: really boycott Omni. I mean it.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 13 Feb 1995 20:32:09 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hofk9$4nn@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3hdbcu$jk1@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
moellney@michi (Michael Moellney) writes:
> I think Marc is right:
> There are two things that make a product worth
> 1. what you can do with it (idea)
> 2. that you can do this (bugfree?) (realization)
>
> Sometimes the idea has more worth in a product than the realization.
> So even the people that think, that it is Omnis right to sell this (in
> my eyes) good and useful product should ask themself, how much worth
> has brought in by people (outside Omni) that reported bugs and even
> gave ideas to Omni FOR FREE how to change OmniWeb to make it even
> better. Isn't it 'unfair' from Omni to say: give us your ideas,
> OmniWeb is and will be free and then, when there have been enough
> ideas let the people sell the product.
This seems absurd to me. People who *buy* products also forward
suggestions to the developer, and they usually don't get paid
for it. I just don't see the problem here. Omnigroup was up
front about what they wanted to do with the product, and they
have (in my opinion) done pretty well with it. I'm pissed about
the *way* the timebombs were implemented, but the product itself
is fine.
It just baffles me that people complain about this, given all the
products I've *paid* for which didn't get as much attention by the
developer as OmniWeb has gotten. People consider the Omnigroup
method as somewhat unfair and evil, which is utterly absurd. Don't
forget that this "evil plan" only works if they do a *good* job at
writing the product. If they do a lousy job, then the fact that
they initially give it away for free (so everyone sees just how
bad a job they do) will backfire on them.
Meanwhile, using normal methods, someone can release a new commercial
product with all kinds of hype, and it's only after you've bought
it that you realize you've been duped. The way Omnigroup has gone
about this puts more pressure on them to do a good job, and if I'm
paying money for a product (as I intend to do for OmniWeb), then
I'm happy to use the product in advance before sending money for it.
[although I still say that the implementation of the timebombs
was pretty disruptive. And I mean "how timebombs were implemented",
and not the minor detail that they got the wrong date by mistake]
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: ggrant@pythagoras.math.upenn.edu (Gregory Grant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: nn (netnews) wanted
Date: 13 Feb 1995 20:56:17 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <3hoh1h$kcu@netnews.upenn.edu>
Does anybody know where I can get a copy of nn for the unix
terminal window on a NeXT?
Greg
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EPS -> TIFF converter
Date: 13 Feb 1995 21:18:05 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hoiad$nkb@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
I am looking for a program that will take a directory of EPS images and
convert them all to TIFF images.
Thanks in advance.
--
..Mike.
From: Lars Immisch <limmisch@t42.ppp.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: configuring Next mail server to support Eudora??
Date: 13 Feb 1995 23:19:56 GMT
Organization: myself
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hopes$229@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
References: <D3ns0s.xy@idyll.com>
In article <D3ns0s.xy@idyll.com> , patrick@idyll.com writes:
>Has anyone successfully installed POP3 in support of Eudora clients?
>Eudora seems to offer what I need in terms of being cross-platform.
Yup, I did. I took an off-the-shelf pop3 server from a linux cd, compiled
it,
and off I was. OK, you have to put an entry into inetd.conf and add
an appropriate services entry into netinfo, but it's all explained in the
readme
of the pop3 server.
It was quite easy, so I don't remember exactly, but I think there was
already
a NeXT makefile - and if not, the out of the box BSD makefile worked.
Cheers,
Lars
From: uk05899@mik.uky.edu (christopher edward etesse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AppleTalk module and NS3.3
Date: 14 Feb 95 20:09:59 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Message-ID: <uk05899.792792599@mik.uky.edu>
I just upgraded my mono black slab to 3.3 (u and d). However,
after reloading the AppleTalk module from the NS3.0 cd and restarting
I go to preferences and after launching it I receive the message
"AppleTalk preferences failed to load". Any suggestions?
Thanks
-Chris
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS -> TIFF converter
Date: 14 Feb 1995 23:48:19 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hrfg3$78d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3hoiad$nkb@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <3hoiad$nkb@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael
C. Cam) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I am looking for a program that will take a directory of EPS images and
>convert them all to TIFF images.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>--
>
>..Mike.
Mike:
I suggest that you use "image" from the pbmplus package.
(I think this is where it is, I'm not sure, it might be included with
ImageViewer.app).
In any case, to convert a whole bunch of EPS files in a folder to TIFF, I
issue the following command:
yourhost% myeps2tiff *
This, obviously, assumes you have a "myesp2tiff" script in your
search path. The one I wrote looks like this:
------------------ CUT HERE ------------------------
#!/bin/sh
# filename: ~/Apps/myeps2tiff
echo "Files found:"
for i in $*
do
echo $i
done
echo Converting...
for i in $*
do
echo $i to `basename $i .eps`.tiff
/usr/local/bin/image -i $i -o `basename $i .eps`.tiff
done
------------------ CUT HERE -------------------------
Make sure you have execute rights as in:
yourhost% chmod u+x ~/Apps/myeps2tiff
yourhost% rehash
It goes almost without saying that this is all done at
your own risk. Make sure you know what you are doing.
A simple typing mistake may cause a lot of damage to
your files and/or deletion. Make sure you have
backups in case of accidental erasure or damage to
your computer files.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS -> TIFF converter
Date: 14 Feb 1995 23:53:25 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hrfpl$7aj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3hrfg3$78d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
A correction:
The script as shown in the previous article
inverts the image (the -i option)
You should take that option out if you
do not want it (and I assume you won't)
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ekraft@netcom.com (Erik Kraft)
Subject: Re: MailingLabel printing SW for NeXT?
Message-ID: <ekraftD4187A.D0u@netcom.com>
References: <3hoam2$su9@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 08:13:57 GMT
Sender: ekraft@netcom9.netcom.com
sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) wrote:
>
>Hello, all.
>
>I am in need of some mailing label printing software for my NeXT; I'd
>like to be able to use the adhesive, many-on-a-8.5x11-sheet, labels in
>my NeXT laserprinter.
>
>Any recommendations of public domain (preferred) or commercial
>software to accomplish this?
I saw a demo of a program called 'LabelWorks' by Trilithon Software.
It supported over 260 different types of label and envelope products,
including Avery US and European. It was easy to use.
Company: Trilithon Software
Address: 3000 Alpine Road
Portola Valley, CA 94028
Phone: 415-851-7901
Fax: 415-851-7902
e-mail: info@trilithon.com
Disclaimer: I only saw the demo.
--
erik kraft
NeXT programmer / 3do programmer
ekraft@netcom.com
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 15 Feb 1995 08:58:45 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3hsfo5$b8h@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <3hrths$b0@news1.wolfe.net>
In article <3hrths$b0@news1.wolfe.net> irving@Wolfe.NET (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
>
> Sorry about this, I know I've lost it. But SEVEN MEGABYTES for a
> silly little system utility! Wow! You guys are nuts!
>
I agree. I recently got a beta version of some nice software that solved this
problem by seperating out the binaries, they provided all the NIBs and Help
files and app wrapper in one tar file, the 4 seperate MAB binaries in seperate
compressed files, and gave careful instructions on how to join them together.
It can be done.
Someone wants to write a nice little utility that wraps around this. MABs are
fabulous, but so is the Internet and the proliferation of software around it.
On a seperate note, I wouldn't underestimate how many people will want one of
the new architectures when it finally arrives. Your keyword here is
"Voyager"...
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 15 Feb 1995 09:29:28 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <3hshho$r8i@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <3ho9lq$q1b@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
aebersol@titan.admin.gettysburg.edu (Dennis R. Aebersold) wrote:
> Adobe provides their reader for most platforms, free. Any chance we'll
> see one for NeXT?
Last time I looked (last night) "most platforms" was Windows, Mac &
Suns (both SunOS & Solaris), no more. Still would like to have one
for NeXT, though. DPS is already there...
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
From: "Paul T. Root" <proot@acs.uswest.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ****** Abest Photo Scanning Service ******
Date: 14 Feb 1995 18:47:20 GMT
Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems
Message-ID: <3hqtro$qla@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
References: <3hqmlu$152o@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>
TXMT81A@prodigy.com (Leo Marquis iii) wrote:
>
> Abost Photo Scanning In Orlando, Fl. We now are providing Photo Scanning
> in full color and B&W. WE can do up to 16m Colors and res. up to
> 1280x1024.
> We offer a fast service and the lowest prices. For all your scanning
> needs
> or any questions just E-Mail us. The cost for a ful color scan of your
> photo
> is only $1.50 in 256 color, at 640x480. Each photo is only $1.50 and
> their is a min charge of $5.00 total with shipping and handling charge of
> Only $3.00 per group of up to 10 photo's. Just send us your photo's and
> please state disk size. All your photo's will be returned with you order.
>
>
> Send to: Abest Photo-Disk Imaging
> 7226 W. Colonial Dr. #214
> Orlando, Fl 32818
> We offer other services like Custom Windows Screen Savers from you
> family or business photo's. Also we have super pre made screen savers.
>
> Visit our Web store in the InterNet Shopkeeper, Our home page is at, :
> http://www.ip.net/shops/Abest_Photo-Disk_Imaging/
>
> E-mail.....txmt81a@prodigy.com
> Thank You!
Looks like Spam to me.
Also, it looks expensive. Seattle Film Works will put 24 pictures on
disk for $9.95. Only $3.95 if you have them do it from a roll of film
they develop.
I'm just a satified customer, no other relation.
Paul.
From: TXMT81A@prodigy.com (Leo Marquis iii)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ****** Abest Photo Scanning Service ******
Date: 14 Feb 1995 16:44:46 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hqmlu$152o@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>
Abost Photo Scanning In Orlando, Fl. We now are providing Photo Scanning
in full color and B&W. WE can do up to 16m Colors and res. up to
1280x1024.
We offer a fast service and the lowest prices. For all your scanning
needs
or any questions just E-Mail us. The cost for a ful color scan of your
photo
is only $1.50 in 256 color, at 640x480. Each photo is only $1.50 and
their is a min charge of $5.00 total with shipping and handling charge of
Only $3.00 per group of up to 10 photo's. Just send us your photo's and
please state disk size. All your photo's will be returned with you order.
Send to: Abest Photo-Disk Imaging
7226 W. Colonial Dr. #214
Orlando, Fl 32818
We offer other services like Custom Windows Screen Savers from you
family or business photo's. Also we have super pre made screen savers.
Visit our Web store in the InterNet Shopkeeper, Our home page is at, :
http://www.ip.net/shops/Abest_Photo-Disk_Imaging/
E-mail.....txmt81a@prodigy.com
Thank You!
From: doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Importing NeXT EPS to Mac Photoshop
Date: 14 Feb 1995 15:56:20 GMT
Organization: RSMAS/University of Miami, Miami, FL
Message-ID: <3hqjr4$8i3@umigw.miami.edu>
Hi,
I am using Mathematica and Diagram on my NeXT to create some EPS files (in
color) that I wish to import to Photoshop running on a Power Mac. As I
understand it, Photoshop appreciates bitmapped images only, so I need to
convert from mt EPS to the appropriate bitmapped image at some reasonable
resolution. Anyone have any ideas, or preferrably, any experience going
from NeXT EPS --> Mac Photoshop? Ultimately, the images will be
incorporated into a QuarkXPress document, if that is of any consequence.
Thanks in advance. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Doug Stewart
EDR, Inc.
doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
(305) 430-1556
From: Dave Spiegel <spiegel@scz.ssi1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Good VT emulator for NeXT???
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 08:19:31 -0800
Organization: Silicon Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950214081713.28448A-100000@dec82z>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Does anyone know of a good VT emulator for NeXT (VT200 or higher)?
Looking for freeware or at least demo to try out before buying.
Thanks, Dave.
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: toMPEG does not run on Intel
Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:37:52 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hr0qg$2i3@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
I am trying to use toMPEG but have found that mpeg-encode is not
executable on Intel. I get the following message:
sh: /Users/mike/Apps/toMPEG.app/mpeg-encode: cannot execute
Is the Intel binary available for mpeg-encode? Is the source available so
that I can recompile on Intel?
Thanks in advance.
..Mike.
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Problems copying binary files to Mac disk
Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:43:47 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hr15j$2jn@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
Does anyone know how to copy Mac binary files to a Mac formatted disk and
preserve the binary format. I download files (.hqx, .sea, etc...) to my
Next (unix based) machine from the archives and when I copy them to a Mac
disk they end up as text files which renders them unexecutable.
Thanks in advance.
--
..Mike.
From: uzi@anago.cse.ogi.edu (Uzi Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing TeXview on HP
Date: 14 Feb 1995 23:58:46 GMT
Organization: Oregon Grad. Inst. Computer Science and Eng., Beaverton
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hrg3m$9eb@reuter.cse.ogi.edu>
References: <3hoiad$nkb@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> <3hrfg3$78d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I am having problems printing latex documents created using TeXview on
a HP laserJet III. The printed quality is very poor. I have tried to set
the custorm resulution to 300 but that does not help much.
Any suggestions will be very much appreciated. (the TeXview is the one
bundled with the NS3.2 for intel).
thanks,
Uzi Levin
uzi@cse.ogi.edu
From: cooncat@wombat (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: White Pine's eXodus vs. coXist for black 3.0s: which has been better?
Date: 14 Feb 1995 01:34:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3hp1ai$mt1@agate.berkeley.edu>
I have heard lots about coXist, but I haven't heard much
about eXodus. Does it run alongside the workspace? Can one
develop X apps with it? Does the NeXT port of Mosaic run
on it? Does White Pine still sell it?
Please email below, thanks for any input in advance.
--
*******************************************************
Jessica L. Mosher
NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
--John Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: irving@Wolfe.NET (Irving_Wolfe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 15 Feb 1995 03:48:12 GMT
Organization: WOLFE Internet, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon WA 98070 +1 206 463 9399
Message-ID: <3hrths$b0@news1.wolfe.net>
The latest Opener prompts this question:
-rw-r----- 1 irving staff 3018261 Feb 14 04:07 Opener_3.2_MAB.tar.Z
-rw-r----- 1 irving staff 3888877 Feb 14 04:26 Opener_3.2_MAB_utils.tar.Z
Bringing these into my Internet provider (which all Seattle
Nextstep people should be using because it's really better -- ask
how if you care), they came at only 8K per second even though we
have two rather lightly loaded T1s, because of a tight bottleneck
at orst.
Taking them to my Next at home was slower, because I'm connected by
modem.
Do multiple files between 3 and 4 megabytes make any sense, even in
a world where more and more people are using frame relay or ISDN?
I only needed the m68k Next version, not the three others. But I
did need the bug fixes and the use of gnutar.
There must not be more than a few hundred sites in the whole world
that run Nextstep on more than two architectures. Do we all need
to bring in an extra 4MB of worthless junk to save a vendor from
publishing four versions or to satisfy Next's hunger to feel
accepted?
How's about everyone stops this right now? If the CIA or Chrysler
needs pentagram binaries, why the devil can't those few ask the
vendor for them or create them themselves from separate binaries?
And let the rest of the world download a single megabyte!
Soon, the internet will die (as we know it) because the subcriminal
providers like Compuserve and MSN don't care about its culture and
the traditional users got so piggy about things being flat-rate and
sort of free that they ate bandwidth faster than it could be
produced, encouraged by Next's silliness to be really, really
wasteful. The _is_ a goose that lays golden eggs, but even if
you're only stupid enough to eat the egg, not dumb enough to eat
the goose, the poor goose will die, pining for its offspring.
Sorry about this, I know I've lost it. But SEVEN MEGABYTES for a
silly little system utility! Wow! You guys are nuts!
--
Solid Value Investment Letter shows intelligent investors under-priced stocks.
Send your POSTAL address to Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com for free information.
Irving_Wolfe@WOLFE.net 206/463-9399 x101 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schaefer@nimbus.ruhr.de (Ingo Schaefer)
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
Message-ID: <D40H1D.C6@nimbus.ruhr.de>
Sender: schaefer@nimbus.ruhr.de (Ingo Schaefer)
Organization: Private Site, Germany
References: <1995Feb13.022604.2877@weston.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 22:27:12 GMT
In article <1995Feb13.022604.2877@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
writes:
> Has anyone had problems with DOTS on 3.3? I can not get it to work on two
> different machines. Machine one has a HPLJ 2. Machine two has a HPLJ4.
>
> I have it working on tow machine running 3.2/
>
I also can't run Dots 3.5.3 and 3.5.5 under NSI3.3.
The printer is a Canon BJ10e.
When i use the option "Modify" in the PrintManager i get the
message "Unrecognizable print entry format".
I posted this problem a few weeks ago in de.comp.sys.next but
unfortunately i got no response until now ;-(
Ciao.
---
o O
CMAS 4042 oO schaefer@nimbus.ruhr.de
_____o schaefer@kido.informatik.fh-dortmund.de
(_/-\_)
===(*) NeXT-Mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hendryj@mcs.com
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Message-ID: <1995Feb15.161541.16601@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3hsfo5$b8h@xexos.xexos.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:15:41 GMT
Mark Chamberlain writes
> In article <3hrths$b0@news1.wolfe.net> irving@Wolfe.NET (Irving_Wolfe)
writes:
> >
> > Sorry about this, I know I've lost it. But SEVEN MEGABYTES for a
> > silly little system utility! Wow! You guys are nuts!
> >
>
>I agree. I recently got a beta version of some nice software that solved this
>problem by seperating out the binaries, they provided all the NIBs and Help
>files and app wrapper in one tar file, the 4 seperate MAB binaries in seperate
>compressed files, and gave careful instructions on how to join them together.
>It can be done.
I think what may be in order is an enhancement of the "smart" ftp servers.
Some of the ftp servers can (un)compress, (un)gzip, (un)tar files as necessary.
It surely would be possible to add lipo capabilities to an ftp server, so that
one could request a certain architecture.
--
Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com
Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of Vanguard
Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or undead is
entirely coincidental.
From: emoss@unlinfo.unl.edu (eric moss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MailingLabel printing SW for NeXT?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 15 Feb 1995 17:18:49 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3htd1p$n8u@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3hoam2$su9@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
David A. Sinclair (sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu) wrote:
: Hello, all.
: I am in need of some mailing label printing software for my NeXT; I'd
: like to be able to use the adhesive, many-on-a-8.5x11-sheet, labels in
: my NeXT laserprinter.
: Any recommendations of public domain (preferred) or commercial
: software to accomplish this?
: Cheers
I have had good luck using DataPhile 2.x, a flat file DB from Stone
Design. There are a few quirks, like substituting a garbage character
if a text field for an address line is empty, but otherwise, it is
quite nice.
From: mgais@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at (Mansuet Gaisbauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where can i get green discs ??
Date: 14 Feb 1995 10:19:20 GMT
Organization: IICM, Graz University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MGAIS.95Feb14111920@fiicmal01.tu-graz.ac.at>
Some postings here mention CDROMS called "GREEN DISK"
or so, containing SW for black HW. Where can i get them
and what is stored on them?
Please mail me.
Thanks in advance,
Gaisbauer Mansuet
--
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| IICM TU-Graz, Austria |
| Schieszstattgasse 4a |
| A-8020 Graz |
|-------------------------------------|
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| Phone: ++43/316/832551-31 |
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| IICM TU-Graz, Austria |
| Schieszstattgasse 4a |
| A-8020 Graz |
|-------------------------------------|
| E-mail: mgais@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at |
| Phone: ++43/316/832551-31 |
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From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
Subject: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 15 Feb 1995 04:05:48 +0200
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Sender: otto@tukki.cc.jyu.fi
Message-ID: <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi>
I've been unable to get a reasonable response from WordPerfect Finland
since they were acquired by Novell to the question: we have a blanket site
licence for all WP products, can I get a NeXT m68k version of WP? Can
anyone help me with a product code or something similar to bug them with?
--
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From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 15 Feb 1995 17:27:34 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3htdi6$3rq@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <3hrths$b0@news1.wolfe.net>
Irving_Wolfe (irving@Wolfe.NET) wrote:
[comments about MABs getting too large]
How about someone writing a tool in Perl to strip away architectures you
don't need. This way you can un-fatten the code before you download
(assuming you download it to an intermediate UNIX site).
BTW, an alternative to FAT code might be a psuedo (p-like) code that gets
compiled and optimized for each CPU on the fly at runtime. A PhD thesis has
been done on this for Oberon, but I don't know how feasible it is for NS. My
guess is that it is probably not worth it, since disk space is so cheap,
internet bandwith will increase quickly, and the total number of CPUs
will probably always be < 6 or 7. Still, it is a slick idea.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: kenaaron@aol.com (KenAaron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OO Job Opportunities
Date: 15 Feb 1995 12:47:37 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3htenp$3q7@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
NeXTSTEP Developers and Consultants
Our client is looking for highly technical individuals to help develop and
promote their object oriented technology. We are looking for individuals
who have experience developing in an object oriented environment and can
communicate the benefits of object oriented technologies to a wide range
of customers. If you are interested in finding out more about this
opportunity or know of some one who may be interested please contact me.
Ken Aaron (recruiter)
kenaaron@aol.com
415-327-8801
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: need fax software
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 15 Feb 1995 17:31:11 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3htdov$3rq@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <3hga0p$llk@hegel.sscnet.ucla.edu> <SWIFT.95Feb10184241@acs3.bu.edu> <MAGNAN.95Feb13112030@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> <1995Feb14.180155.29613@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
Mark G. Salyzyn (mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org) wrote:
: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes:
: >NXFax will not work on the USR Sporster because this modem only
: >supports class 1. NXFax only works with class 2 modems. No driver
: >for a class 1 modem exists for NS.
: There is support for Class 2.0 (using mgetty+sendfax), and the USR Sportster
: now has a ROM upgrade to Class 2.0.
The new USR Sportster 28.8 is class 2.0, but NXFax doesn't support it and
B/W does not have any plans to. :-(
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ParaSheet vs. Quantrix from Lighthouse
Date: 15 Feb 1995 17:33:30 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3htdta$auo@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3hrp52$t9h@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3hrp52$t9h@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
(Karl Robert Pfleger) writes:
.. stuff deleted
> The advantages of Quantrix over ParaSheet are obvious. My question is,
> what are the advantages of ParaSheet over Quantrix? In particular, for
> someone who does not have significant experience with traditional
> spreadsheets, is there any advantage of ParaSheet over Quantrix, e.g.,
> any features the former has that the latter does not?
>
.. stuff deleted
At present Quantrix does not have any charting/graphing capabilities,
Parasheet does. You can however take data from Quantrix and paste it into
any other spreadsheet/plotting application for a quick plot but this is
not a long term solution. I have been told that charting/graphing for
Quantrix is coming soon.
--
..Mike.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Importing NeXT EPS to Mac Photoshop
Message-ID: <1995Feb15.175630.7160@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <3hqjr4$8i3@umigw.miami.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:56:30 GMT
In article <3hqjr4$8i3@umigw.miami.edu> doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu writes:
>Hi,
>
>I am using Mathematica and Diagram on my NeXT to create some EPS files (in
>color) that I wish to import to Photoshop running on a Power Mac. As I
>understand it, Photoshop appreciates bitmapped images only, so I need to
>convert from mt EPS to the appropriate bitmapped image at some reasonable
>resolution. Anyone have any ideas, or preferrably, any experience going
>from NeXT EPS --> Mac Photoshop? Ultimately, the images will be
>incorporated into a QuarkXPress document, if that is of any consequence.
>
>Thanks in advance. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>Doug Stewart
>EDR, Inc.
>doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
>(305) 430-1556
Mac Photoshop can only import EPS files created by Adobe Illustrator and
Photoshop itself. You have a couple of options. First, if you have a version of
Photoshop for SUN or SGI you can use it to import any EPS file. If not, turn
the EPS file into a tiff on your NeXT and then import the tiff file into
Photoshop. Make sure you do this at high enough resolution to satisfy your
needs in Photoshop.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS -> TIFF converter
Date: 14 Feb 1995 14:51:01 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hqg0l$kqu@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3hoiad$nkb@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Michael C. Cam (mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca) wrote:
>I am looking for a program that will take a directory of EPS images and
>convert them all to TIFF images.
Check this out:
---snip---
/*
From sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de!nntp.gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.dfn.de!gs.dfn.de!gwdu03.gwdg.de!desdemona!trebels Sun Aug 21 12:23:48 1994
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From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Re: eps to tiff conversion commandline utility?
Message-ID: <IRRRBKFB@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
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I wrote:
> hi,
> is there some eps-->tiff conversion *on the command line*
> available for the NeXT? I know, I can use some NeXTSTEP
> app to do it, but I need some automated way to do it on
> many files.
I got some answers, Sean even posted some source, thanks!
After looking at the source I saw what I did wrong, somehow
I forgot to initialize NXApp, grrrr. Now the eps-tiff filter
is *really* easy, it's exactly what I tried first:
*/
#import <appkit/appkit.h>
int main( void )
{
NXStream *epsfStream;
NXStream *tiffStream;
id image;
/* init NXApp */
NXApp = [Application new];
/* open streams */
epsfStream = NXOpenFile(0,NX_READONLY);
tiffStream = NXOpenFile(1,NX_WRITEONLY);
/* read EPS, load into image, write TIFF */
image = [[NXImage alloc] initFromStream:epsfStream];
[image writeTIFF:tiffStream];
/* cleanup */
[image free];
NXClose(epsfStream);
NXClose(tiffStream);
/* exit in glory */
return 0;
}
/*
--
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
/ Stephan Trebels voice: +49 551 44690 /|
+--------------------------------------------------------------+ |
| <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> "No NeXTmail yet, it's a HP" | +
| <trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de> "NeXTmail welcome" |/
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
*/
---snip---
Compile and then do something like
shell>foreach f (*.eps)
shell> ? eps2tiff < $f > `basename $f .eps`.tiff
shell> ? end
..(munch, munch)..and you have a lot of something.tiff files.
Now, wasn't that easy? :-)
Greetings,
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstaette // [eMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
From: far@earthlink.net (Felipe A. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PAS/ATI GUP Conflict
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 09:40:27
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <far.2.0009ACE6@earthlink.net>
References: <1995Feb9.131241.18785@trimark.com>
In article <1995Feb9.131241.18785@trimark.com> dsanders@Trimark.com (Doug Sanders) writes:
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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>From: dsanders@Trimark.com (Doug Sanders)>Subject: PAS/ATI GUP Conflict
>Message-ID: <1995Feb9.131241.18785@trimark.com>
>Sender: news@trimark.com
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>Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
>Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:12:41 GMT
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>I'm getting a conflict between my ATI Graphic Ultra Pro and my PAS at port
>0x52ee in NS 3.3.
>In PAS16 Default.table:
>/* Master decode: 0x9a01 */
>"I/O Ports" = "0x388-0x388 0x0220-0x22f 0x200-0x207 0x9a01-0x9a01";
>In ATI Default.table:
>"I/O Ports" = "0x100-0x105 0x1ce-0x1cf 0x2e8-0x2ef 0x3b4-0x3b5 0x3b8-0x3bb
>0x3c0-0x3cf 0x3d4-0x3dc 0x6e8-0x6ef 0xae8-0xaef 0xee8-0xeef 0x12e8-0x12ef
>0x16e8-0x42ef 0x46ee-0x46ef 0x4ae8-0x4aef 0x52ee-0xfeef";
I encountered this same problem while upgrading (NS 3.2 -> 3.3) a Genoa MB
486/33 with PAS and ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VLB with 2mb VRAM.
My solution was to go into config and choose the expert settings for the ATI.
I then manually deleted the address range 0x52ee-0xfeef. To my surprise and
amazement this worked! The ATI has been working fine and does not seem to
miss this address range.
The ATI was set to operate at 1024x768 @60hz.
Felipe A. Rodriguez
far@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bob@anasazi.com (Bob Carroll)
Subject: Dots questions
Message-ID: <D406r9.n06@anasazi.com>
Sender: usenet@anasazi.com (News System)
Organization: Anasazi, Inc. Phoenix, Arizona USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 18:45:08 GMT
Hi all,
How well does Dots work (under 3.3) with a HP 1200c ? HP 560c ?
Any known problems ?
Thanks!
bob@anasazi.com
--
bob@anasazi.com
Robert Carroll
Anasazi, Inc. 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120 Phoenix, Az 85020 USA
From: schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and .gz files
Date: 15 Feb 95 12:17:19
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <schaefer.95Feb15121719@syrtis>
References: <9502130947.AA00317@next.lnf.infn.it>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
>Ciao,
> I recently tried to view a .gz file with OmniWeb.app. OmniWeb
>doesn't automatically uncompress a file so what appeared in
>the browser was gibberish. So I wanted to save the file and
>use Opener.app to uncompress it. Since I didn't see a "save
>file" option in the OmniWeb menus, I tried "select all" and
>"copy" and then pasted the result into a blank Edit view and
>then saved that. When I tried to uncompress this, Opener
>gave the error message "gunzip:stdin:not in gzip format".
>This file is in gzip format. Is there a way to view this
>file?
OmniWeb put things it displays (or trys to) in /tmp. Try moving the file, or uncompress it there.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Martha W. Schaefer
Yale University Department of Geology and Geophysics
P.O.Box 208109
New Haven, CT 06520-8109
203-432-3116(office)
203-432-3134(fax)
schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
From: parrt@lonewolf.parr-research.com (Terence John Parr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC
Date: 15 Feb 1995 18:59:23 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc
Message-ID: <3htiub$idi@blackice.winternet.com>
Can anybody tell me how to contact the SoftPC folks? How well does it run
well-behaved Windoze software and other Microshaft atrocities? Anybody with
anecdotal evidence as to it's effectiveness? Is there an ftp site where I
can grab a one month trial version? Seems to me I remember something like that.
Of course, it may be on my 3.3 user disk whenever that arrives.
Can you please mail to me at parrt@parr-research.com rather than posting (or
do both)? I can't always read news due to work load. :(
Terence
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: src revision control?
Message-ID: <1995Feb15.192635.16692@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 19:26:35 GMT
Are there any NEXTSTEP product to do source code revision control???
---
Kevin Solie
Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Subject: Re: Improv
Message-ID: <1995Feb15.203034.8208@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 20:30:34 GMT
References: <950208200619.3554AAC7K.kevin@ksmith>
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
In article <950208200619.3554AAC7K.kevin@ksmith> ksmith@telesource.com writes:
>I have a file in Improv that won't open. For no apparent reason, when I
Graphs are the bane of improv. Nevertheless, that is the main reason I
use it!! There is a serious bug that causes improv to do nasty things
to .pb files, including losing them completely. This might work.
Copy the .pb file in question to a safe place. Drop it from the model
and build a simple graph with the same name. Save and exit. Make sure
it is still there. Copy the saved file back in. If the file itself is
okay it should open. Otherwise you will have to redo it.
In the future, always do the following. Open a terminal window and keep
track of what is in the .imp directory. Frequently and definitely
before trying to exit improv, copy the .pb files to a safe place. After
exiting, compare what you saved to what improv saved. Replace anything
that is lost or messed up. Since I started doing this, I have had no
problems.
Caution: Save it early and often. The other night I built some graphs,
printed them and tried to save. Improv crashed. It does that
sometimes. However, if you create the save directory BEFORE you do
anything important, you should be okay.
--
Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Message-ID: <1995Feb15.210435.12190@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <3hqrr3$1sg0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 21:04:35 GMT
In article <3hqrr3$1sg0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) writes:
>In article <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
>> In article <3ho9lq$q1b@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
>> aebersol@titan.admin.gettysburg.edu (Dennis R. Aebersold) writes:
>> >
>> >Adobe provides their reader for most platforms, free. Any chance we'll
>> >see one for NeXT?
>> > -dennis
>>
>> As far as I know, we currently have no plans to produce a reader for
>NEXTSTEP.
>>
>> Joe Pasqua
>> Adobe Systems Incorporated
>>
>
>How hard can it be? Would it be as much as one person day's work?
Did you mean person year? You can't possibly have meant person day. Just
getting an app like this through QA and getting documentation revised to
reflect the NEXTSTEP environment would be a big job - and that includes no
engineering. Am I missing something here?
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 15 Feb 1995 21:12:07 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3htqn7$h8k@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3hsfo5$b8h@xexos.xexos.com>
Mark Chamberlain writes
>
In article <3hrths$b0@news1.wolfe.net> irving@Wolfe.NET (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
> >
> > Sorry about this, I know I've lost it. But SEVEN MEGABYTES for a
> > silly little system utility! Wow! You guys are nuts!
> >
> I agree. I recently got a beta version of some nice software that
> solved this problem by seperating out the binaries, they provided
> all the NIBs and Help files and app wrapper in one tar file, the 4
> seperate MAB binaries in seperate compressed files, and gave careful
> instructions on how to join them together. It can be done.
My thanks to Mark for observing his non-disclosure. I want to address
a few of these points, so I'll delurk to admit that he's talking about
our current WriteUp beta test. As Mark mentioned, we broke the release
into the following parts:
WriteUp.app.tar.Z, without the WriteUp executable and help system
Help.store, so testers who already know how to use the app don't have
to download an extra megabyte of stuff they don't plan to use
WriteUp.exec.m68k.Z, the compressed Motorola executable
WriteUp.exec.i386.Z, the compressed Intel executable
WriteUp.exec.hppa.Z, the compressed HPPA executable
WriteUp.exec.sparc.Z, the compressed SPARC executable
The beta testers must download WriteUp.app and at least one of the
executables. Then they run a few simple commands (it could be a script)
to uncompress/untar the files and build a complete application out of
whatever pieces they have.
> Someone wants to write a nice little utility that wraps around this.
> MABs are fabulous, but so is the Internet and the proliferation of
> software around it. On a seperate note, I wouldn't underestimate how
> many people will want one of the new architectures when it finally
> arrives. Your keyword here is"Voyager"...
Here's the catch: bundles. Even we cheated a little bit. The WriteUp.app
wrapper contains a few (small) quad-FAT bundles that would have been too
painful to piece out and put back together in the field. In fact, for our
documents filter service, which is heavily bundle-dependent, we shipped
the whole thing quad-FAT. It wasn't very big, so it didn't make that
much difference. But a larger app built entirely around bundles (I seem
to recall the latest version of Virtuoso fits this description) would be
a lot more complicated to download piecemeal and then reassemble.
The best long-term solution is for software authors to build a .pkg for
each architecture, which contains only the executable portions for that
architecture (including pieces of bundles). First, users would install the
empty app wrapper. Then they would overlay as many architectures as their
site required. As part of installing each architecture package, a post-
installation script would be run to integrate and lipo the pieces. We do
that for the HPPA version of WriteUp 1.1, and it works pretty well.
Right now we do all this stripping work by hand, but I am seriously
considering writing a utility to go through an existing app and break it
into an app wrapper .pkg plus individual architecture .pkgs, inclusive
of all bundles found. If that happens, I'll let you and everyone know.
That would remove the pain of building FTPable single architecture
packages, which I suspect is the main reason no one does it today.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network
Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer
Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: SLIP and NeXTMail
Message-ID: <D42A1t.95q@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 21:51:29 GMT
Now that I have a SLIP connection, I tried to get NeXTMail to read
from my mail server. I defined the mail server(and its address) in
NetInfoManager. But, not having any nework experience, I'm sure I'm
missing some fundamentals. Can someone point me in the right
direction?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 15 Feb 1995 17:55:06 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hu0oa$lla@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3htqn7$h8k@shelob.afs.com>
Its important to remember that Opener is an _extreme_ case... its got almost
no UI, and is basically a wrapper for about thirty other programs... so the
results that you would get with a normal MAB package aren't evident here.
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 237568 Feb 15 17:43 toast*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 114688 Feb 9 16:49 unarj*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 237568 Feb 10 13:50 untoast*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 273640 Feb 9 16:49 unzip*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 229376 Feb 9 16:42 zcat*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 2006 Feb 9 16:42 zdiff*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 1010 Feb 9 16:42 zforce*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 1339 Feb 9 16:42 zgrep*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 222028 Feb 9 16:50 zip*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 92920 Feb 9 16:50 zipcloak*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 1203 Sep 6 1993 zipgrep*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 112420 Feb 9 16:50 zipnote*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 119220 Feb 9 16:50 zipsplit*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 1074 Feb 9 16:43 zmore*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 3508 Feb 9 16:43 znew*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 46708 Feb 9 16:49 funzip*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 229376 Feb 9 16:42 gunzip*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 3858 Feb 9 16:42 gzexe*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 229376 Feb 9 16:42 gzip*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 122880 Feb 9 16:45 hexbin*
-rwx------ 1 sanguish wheel 258708 Feb 9 16####################################################################
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From: jheidelo@next1 (Jason Heideloff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb and nmserver
Date: 16 Feb 1995 01:43:01 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
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Message-ID: <3huaj5$dqe@mustang.alleg.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp1.alleg.edu
Lately, we have been having problems with NEXTSTEP machines "spinning
forever." When the problem occurs, it is possible to kill application
processes however starting applications is impossible. One is able to
telnet to these machines without any problems and if one reboots the
machine, the problem is corrected. Today, we finally figured out that
nmserver dies. We thought about the problem for quite some time and
decided that the problem could be with OmniWeb. It seems that the
problem started around the time we intalled version 0.9.2. We have
since removed OmniWeb from the network hoping that this will solve the
problem. It will be interesting to see if OmniWeb is in fact causing
the problem.
I noticed someone else posted an article in comp.sys.next.bugs and
comp.sys.next.sysadmin about his Intel machines locking up? Has
anyone else been experiencing the same problems?
I will post my findings.
---
Jason Heideloff
Systems Manager, Technical and Network Services
Allegheny College
Meadville, PA 16335
From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb 0.9.1
Date: 02 Feb 1995 22:48:20 GMT
Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <J.M.FIGUEROA.95Feb2224820@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk>
I don't understand the single-user license. I have two independent
machines which each have their own copy of OmniWeb 0.9.1. Apart from
their physical proximity, all they have in common are some files (one
of the machines has a much larger disk drive) which are NFS-mounted.
Yet, two different users can't run OmniWeb at the same time. Why
should this be the case?
--
+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+
| Jose M. Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.171.975-5055 |
| Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.181.981-7465 |
| Queen Mary and Westfield College | email: J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk |
| Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | |
| or |
| check out http://stringswww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/~jmf/jmf.html on the WWW. |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 14 Feb 1995 18:12:51 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3hqrr3$1sg0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com>
In article <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
> In article <3ho9lq$q1b@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
> aebersol@titan.admin.gettysburg.edu (Dennis R. Aebersold) writes:
> >
> >Adobe provides their reader for most platforms, free. Any chance we'll
> >see one for NeXT?
> > -dennis
>
> As far as I know, we currently have no plans to produce a reader for
NEXTSTEP.
>
> Joe Pasqua
> Adobe Systems Incorporated
>
How hard can it be? Would it be as much as one person day's work?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Message-ID: <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <3ho9lq$q1b@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 17:29:42 GMT
In article <3ho9lq$q1b@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
aebersol@titan.admin.gettysburg.edu (Dennis R. Aebersold) writes:
>
>Adobe provides their reader for most platforms, free. Any chance we'll
>see one for NeXT?
> -dennis
As far as I know, we currently have no plans to produce a reader for NEXTSTEP.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Message-ID: <D43LI6.sF@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:56:30 GMT
jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) wrote:
>One complaint people have had about NewsGrazer is that it takes a long
>time to start up. If that's a problem, try OmniWeb and type in
> news:your.news.group.of.choice
>You don't get all the features of NewsGrazer, but the articles load damn
>quick.
Alexandra.app has an option for fast-startup as well. NewsGazer takes so
long, because it requests a list of all valid newsgroups from the nntp
server when it starts.
--
<-------------------------------------------------------------->
| Constantin Szallies ||| tini@gurke.ping.de |
| Emil Figge 7 44227 Dortmund (o o) Tel: 0231/7519681 |
<------------------------------oOo--(_)--oOo------------------->
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 16:10:24 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hvtdg$2mq@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3hugcv$flp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Art Isbell writes
> Unfortunately, separating the binaries duplicates much of the binary
> contents making the total size of the separated binaries considerably
> larger than the single MAB binary, but I believe the tradeoff is well
> worth the extra archive disk space this would require.
Not true. In the case of WriteUp, the compressed quad-FAT binary is
3,341,639 bytes. The sum of the compressed single-architecture binaries
is 3,331,689 bytes. SMALLER! Riddle me _that_, Batman.
It's true that if you archive a complete copy of [foo].app for each
architecture, you'll waste a lot of disk space. But that's not what
we're talking about. We're talking about having one package with the
app wrapper (stripped of the executable(s)), then separate packages
with just the executable of each architecture. You download the pieces
you need, then reassemble on-site.
> Posters of packages don't have to wait for a custom utility to make
> this happen. NeXT provides lipo that can do this for both posters and
> downloaders of binaries. Please use these utilities and stop this waste
> of resources. Not all of us have T1 connections to archive sites.
Again, with bundles and so forth, it's trickier than that. But you've
got me thinking more seriously about building this little tool...
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network
Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer
Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 16 Feb 1995 20:15:52 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
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References: <1995Feb16.180011.14180@news.media.mit.edu>
I am working on a program now that is delivering documents in PDF to
increase the electronic availability of them. Unfortunately myself and all
the others in my department won't be able to since we run NeXT. It's
pretty bad when you can take a PDF file to almost any other major platform
except NeXT. I guess if you want to be competitive you have to settle for
a Mac, Dos, or Sun
(Not that they are bad or anything, They perform well) but I like the
NeXT user interface, I guess we will have to put it aside.
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: OmniWeb and Usenet
Date: 15 Feb 1995 01:00:36 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
One complaint people have had about NewsGrazer is that it takes a long
time to start up. If that's a problem, try OmniWeb and type in
news:your.news.group.of.choice
You don't get all the features of NewsGrazer, but the articles load damn
quick.
Apologies if I'm the last one to have figured this out.
--
John Devlin
Department of Philosophy
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: Librarian and indexing
Date: 15 Feb 1995 14:18:29 GMT
Organization: multiversum media lab gmbh
Message-ID: <3ht2fl$9jj@multiversum.multiversum.com>
Hi Folks!
When I searched in the ManPages I just got the results.
After I used the "update index" function it allways searches
- once as usual (displays the found docs)
- then with displaying the names of the docs it searches.
Looks like the search is performed twice !?
Any help for me to get the old behavior back?
Atze
From: pascal@wsc.com ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EspressoDeveloper ???
Date: 15 Feb 1995 22:26:32 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3htv2o$ocb@cerberus.wsc.com>
References: <3hg8ga$3mn@hermes.dna.mci.com>
In article <3hg8ga$3mn@hermes.dna.mci.com> celam@radiomail.net (Cliff
Elam) writes:
> In article <charles.bordeaux.1.000BED74@gsfc.nasa.gov>
> charles.bordeaux@gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Bordeaux) writes:
> > Does anyone know anything about EspressoDeveloper?
> >
>
> Best I could tell, they went out of business right after Expo last year.
> I was planning on using their s/w for a project too. :-(
Espresso is not advertized anymore because Logibec is working
on its successor that will work with EOF instead of DBKit. You
can still get a copy by calling Raymond Sam at: (514) 766-0134.
Pascal Forget <pascal@wsc.com>
WSC Investment Services
90 Broad Street, New York NY 10004
(212) 797-1887
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: tiff whitespace to transparent?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 00:44:18 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hu752$513@news.iastate.edu>
Does anybody know of a way that I could make the whitespace in a tiff
transparent. For example, I use grab to grab a tiff that is on a white
background. How can I convert that white background to a transparent
background now that it is part of the tiff?
--
*******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
* Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) *
* --------------------------------------------------------- *
* He who throws mud loses ground. *
****************************************************************
From: bambi@Bond.edu.au (David J. Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.databases,aus.computers.linux,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.cray,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.ultrix,aus.archives,aus.general
Subject: ANNOUNCE : mSQL 1.0.5 available
Date: 16 Feb 1995 00:47:09 GMT
Organization: Bond University, Queensland, AUSTRALIA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hu7ad$n54@kirk.Bond.edu.au>
Summary: Mi####################################################################
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good VT emulator for NeXT???
Date: 16 Feb 1995 11:01:45 GMT
Organization: multiversum media lab gmbh
Message-ID: <3hvbap$ej3@multiversum.multiversum.com>
References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950214081713.28448A-100000@dec82z>
In article <Pine.ULT.3.91.950214081713.28448A-100000@dec82z> Dave Spiegel
<spiegel@scz.ssi1.com> writes:
> Does anyone know of a good VT emulator for NeXT (VT200 or higher)?
> Looking for freeware or at least demo to try out before buying.
>
> Thanks, Dave.
Look for Cables.app. Supports VT320 and many more.
Atze
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <idpt633@tpts1.seed.net.tw>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:56:42 CST
From: idpt633@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_user)
Message-ID: <9502160356.AA22857@tpts1.seed.net.tw>
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
In article <1995Feb13.022604.2877@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
writes:
> Has anyone had problems with DOTS on 3.3? I can not get it to work on two
> different machines. Machine one has a HPLJ 2. Machine two has a HPLJ4.
>
> I have it working on tow machine running 3.2/
>
How about HP LasetJet 4V with any lucks with Dots, which 4V supports up
to A3 size.
Jamie
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Bible Translations
Date: 17 Feb 1995 02:05:49 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i109t$q8e@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3i0g8j$sod@kelso.abbott.com>
In article <3i0g8j$sod@kelso.abbott.com> mdobsch@phantom (Matthew
Dobschuetz) writes:
> Receantly I picked up a KJV Bible off the net for the NeXT. I happy
with format but not with the translation. Does anyone know where I
can ftp a copy of the RSV text? Or are there any commericial releases
available of any new translations (niv, nrsv, nkjv, etc.)
>
I actually would like to have the OLDER (previous versions) back
to Tyndale. I would VERY much appreciate it if anyone knows if these
are on-line anywhere!
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
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Return-Path: <randyn@crt.com>
Message-ID: <9502162351.AA13404@nx_chi>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Randy Nelson <randyn@crt.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 17:51:46 -0600
Subject: Creating a Horizontal scrollview
I am trying to create Scrollview with both horizontal and vertical
scrollers.
I drug the ScrollView off of the palette. I then send the
following messages to it.
- awakeFromNib
{
.... some code
[theText notifyAncestorWhenFrameChanged:YES];
[theText setHorizResizable:YES];
[theText notifyAncestorWhenFrameChanged:YES];
{
NXRect theRect;
[theText getFrame:&theRect];
// Make the text wider than the scrollView
[theText sizeTo: 400 : theRect.size.height];
}
.... some more code
}
A scroller gets created, but any text sent to the text object gets
wrapped at the same width as the original scrollView and therefore
the scrollbar never appears.
I have tried to widen the Text object in the ScrollView, but that
doesn't seem to have helped.
** Q. ** Any idea on what I may not have done?
BTW. the Text gets filled from a file by the following method:
stream = NXMapFile( path, NX_READONLY);
if (stream)
{
[misPriceText readText:stream];
NXCloseMemory(stream,NX_FREEBUFFER);
}
where path is a file path and the text in path has newlines at the
end of each line.
Thanks in advance,
Randy Nelson
---------------------------------------
-Randy Nelson
Software Engineer (NEXTSTEP Developer)
NationsBanc--CRT
(312) 431-3032
randyn@crt.com (NeXT mail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: low cal, low cost .ps -> .gif conversion software
Message-ID: <D43s3D.8CG@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 17:18:48 GMT
For WWW pages, I have been manually converting .ps and .eps images to .gif's
using OmniImage's SaveAs menu item. But I find I now need to use scripts to
do this automatically, say for TeX'ing a formula and running it through
dvips, then to convert to gif.
I've seen several 'ps2gif' scripts, which rely on (a) ghostscript and (b) the
netpbm graphics utilities. But I have never been able to compile the netpbm
programs I need (ppmtogif, pnmcrop), and it seems strange to need to use gs
on a NeXT machine, and gs+netpbm take up a lot of disk real estate.
Since the required functionality is already in OmniImage, I wonder if there
is any way to invoke the OmniImage conversion fromn a terminal or some other
light weight solution to this problem.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University Voice: 416 736 5118
4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
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From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Subject: Re: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
Message-ID: <D44601.3Bt@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 22:19:13 GMT
In article <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J.
Makela) writes:
> I've been unable to get a reasonable response from WordPerfect Finland
> since they were acquired by Novell to the question: we have a blanket site
> licence for all WP products, can I get a NeXT m68k version of WP? Can
> anyone help me with a product code or something similar to bug them with?
Last December I called WP and asked for some information on WP for NeXTs
and for AIX. I needed the info ####################################################################
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From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Subject: Re: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
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In article <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J.
Makela) writes:
> I've been unable to get a reasonable response from WordPerfect Finland
> since they were acquired by Novell to the question: we have a blanket site
> licence for all WP products, can I get a NeXT m68k version of WP? Can
> anyone help me with a product code or something similar to bug them with?
Last December I called WP and asked for some information on WP for NeXTs
and for AIX. I needed the info quickly. They promised to fax it to me
the NeXT :-) day. Three weeks later (now January) I wrote them a letter to
ask what happened to the information . A week after that they sent the info
on AIX but they said they had discontinued selling the NeXT version at the
end of December.
It isn't the same company since Novell took over. :-(
--
Ed Russell esr@slac.stanford.edu
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Palo Alto/Menlo Park, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Subject: Re: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
Message-ID: <D4461G.3G9@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 22:20:03 GMT
In article <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J.
Makela) writes:
> I've been unable to get a reasonable response from WordPerfect Finland
> since they were acquired by Novell to the question: we have a blanket site
> licence for all WP products, can I get a NeXT m68k version of WP? Can
> anyone help me with a product code or something similar to bug them with?
Last December I called WP and asked for some information on WP for NeXTs
and for AIX. I needed the info quickly. They promised to fax it to me
the NeXT :-) day. Three weeks later (now January) I wrote them a letter to
ask what happened to the information . A week after that they sent the info
on AIX but they said they had discontinued selling the NeXT version at the
end of December.
It isn't the same company since Novell took over. :-(
--
Ed Russell esr@slac.stanford.edu
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Palo Alto/Menlo Park, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Subject: Re: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
Message-ID: <D4464q.3Iq@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 22:22:01 GMT
In article <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J.
Makela) writes:
> I've been unable to get a reasonable response from WordPerfect Finland
> since they were acquired by Novell to the question: we have a blanket site
> licence for all WP products, can I get a NeXT m68k version of WP? Can
> anyone help me with a product code or something similar to bug them with?
Last December I called WP and asked for some information on WP for NeXTs
and for AIX. I needed the info quickly. They promised to fax it to me
the NeXT :-) day. Three weeks later (now January) I wrote them a letter to
ask what happened to the information . A week after that they sent the info
on AIX but they said they had discontinued selling the NeXT version at the
end of December.
It isn't the same company since Novell took over. :-(
--
Ed Russell esr@slac.stanford.edu
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Palo Alto/Menlo Park, California
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: anyone seen Invoice.app?
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:14:23 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950214201307.5991B-100000@avocado>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
A while back I saw an app out there that would help with small-time
Invoice tracking, etc., called Invoice.app. Anyone know where it might
be? Anyone know of any other invoicing/service tracking applications?
If not, I may just use Improv or another spreadsheet.
Thanks
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/
NEXTSTEP, hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
baby http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Answering Machine via NEXTSTEP
Date: 15 Feb 1995 02:05:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Message-ID: <3hrngf$p3q@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <D3nA1s.J6@vergil.ping.de> <D3qCpL.1t7@hazel.north.de>
Keywords: Answering, mix, ilink
> Can you really recommend mix?
> Does it work with 3.3?
> Do the mix-support people ever answer mail?
> Is mix stable?
Furthermore, how much is it? Is it more appropriate for a small business
or can mere mortal individuals afford it?
-Karl
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 16 Feb 1995 03:27:01 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hugm5$m2j@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3hrths$b0@news1.wolfe.net>
irving@Wolfe.NET (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
> The latest Opener prompts this question:
>
> -rw-r----- 3018261 Feb 14 04:07 Opener_3.2_MAB.tar.Z
> -rw-r----- 3888877 Feb 14 04:26 Opener_3.2_MAB_utils.tar.Z
>
> Do multiple files between 3 and 4 megabytes make any sense,
> even in a world where more and more people are using frame
> relay or ISDN?
I don't think MAB is getting out of hand, in fact, I'd be happy
to see a few more architectures added... :-)
However, I do think we have to consider other ways to organize
things on the FTP servers. I have a script which splits apart
an application into separate architectures, and also creates
gnutar/gzip archives of the results. I tried it on the new
Opener, and got:
-r--r--r-- 899256 Feb 15 21:31 Opener-3.2-H.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 809104 Feb 15 21:31 Opener-3.2-I.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 795534 Feb 15 21:32 Opener-3.2-N.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 859967 Feb 15 21:33 Opener-3.2-S.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 1934640 Feb 15 21:30 Opener-3.2_NIHS.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 476459 Feb 15 21:27 Opener-3.2_NoBin.tar.gz
Compare that to the tar.Z version of the same thing (the "NoBinaries"
one is just there for reference, I was curious what the result
would be). With the above strategy, anyone who wants a single
architecture can just get it. Anyone who wants more than one
architecture would have to get the MAB file, and then thin it down
to the ones they were interested in.
The penalty is for the disk space on the FTP site. The tar.Z file
takes up about 3 million bytes, while the above layout takes up
about 5.3 million bytes. So, the above uses up about 75% more disk
space on the server, but it should save a *huge* amount on the CPU
and networking load at the ftp site. Most people would only need
to transfer 800,000 bytes, instead of 3,000,000. The numbers would
come out differently for other packages, of course.
So, what do people think?
At the very least, I do think we have to kill the "MAB" designation,
as it just isn't informative enough. That's what the "NIHS" is for
up there, so people know *exactly* which architectures are in the
MAB binary.
Of course, a significant part of the savings up there were also
because I used "gzip" instead of "compress". Maybe that's one
change that we should decide to make. NeXTSTEP comes with gzip
now, so people should be able to handle that.
> How's about everyone stops this right now? If the CIA or Chrysler
> needs pentagram binaries, why the devil can't those few ask the
> vendor for them or create them themselves from separate binaries?
> And let the rest of the world download a single megabyte!
Well, one thing to remember is that some people might very well
be buying just NeXTSTEP User, so we should not assume everyone
(or anyone) has the development environment to compile programs.
I don't care what platform people are buying into, it makes sense
to have the binaries for that platform available.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ParaSheet vs. Quantrix from Lighthouse
Date: 15 Feb 1995 02:33:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Message-ID: <3hrp52$t9h@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
ParaSheet is a traditional style (Lotus 1-2-3 or Excel -like)
spreadsheet, while Quantrix is a multidimensional (Lotus Improv-like)
spreadsheet. Both are from Lighthouse.
The advantages of Quantrix over ParaSheet are obvious. My question is,
what are the advantages of ParaSheet over Quantrix? In particular, for
someone who does not have significant experience with traditional
spreadsheets, is there any advantage of ParaSheet over Quantrix, e.g.,
any features the former has that the latter does not?
At $25 a pop, students at least need hardly ponder this question as they
can surely afford to buy both, but if Quantrix will do all that
ParaSheet will plus be multidimensional, why bother with ParaSheet?
-Karl
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 03:31:30 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3hugui$m6g@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3hsfo5$b8h@xexos.xexos.com>
mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes:
> irving@Wolfe.NET (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
> > Sorry about this, I know I've lost it. But SEVEN MEGABYTES
> > for a silly little system utility! Wow! You guys are nuts!
[btw, all you needed to download was 3 megabytes. You didn't
need the utilities file, as all those binaries are already in
the opener file. What the utilities file gives you is source
to those unix programs]
> I agree. I recently got a beta version of some nice software that
> solved this problem by seperating out the binaries, they provided
> all the NIBs and Help files and app wrapper in one tar file, the
> 4 seperate MAB binaries in seperate compressed files, and gave
> careful instructions on how to join them together. It can be
> done.
Hmm. Doable, but somewhat more involved than the end user should
have to go thru (in my opinion). People should be able to just
download a program, unpack it, and go.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC
Date: 16 Feb 1995 11:21:41 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Message-ID: <3hvcg5$ev1@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <3htiub$idi@blackice.winternet.com>
Cc: parrt@parr-research.com
Terence John Parr (parrt@lonewolf.parr-research.com) wrote:
>Can anybody tell me how to contact the SoftPC folks? How well does it run
>well-behaved Windoze software and other Microshaft atrocities? Anybody with
>anecdotal evidence as to it's effectiveness? Is there an ftp site where I
>can grab a one month trial version? Seems to me I remember something like that.
>Of course, it may be on my 3.3 user####################################################################
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From: James Heiser <jheiser@adobe.com>
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
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O.K. given Garance Drosehn's ideas, I came up with something that might
work...
> -r--r--r-- 899256 Feb 15 21:31 Opener-3.2-H.tar.gz
> -r--r--r-- 809104 Feb 15 21:31 Opener-3.2-I.tar.gz
> -r--r--r-- 795534 Feb 15 21:32 Opener-3.2-N.tar.gz
> -r--r--r-- 859967 Feb 15 21:33 Opener-3.2-S.tar.gz
> -r--r--r-- 1934640 Feb 15 21:30 Opener-3.2_NIHS.tar.gz
>
> -r--r--r-- 476459 Feb 15 21:27 Opener-3.2_NoBin.tar.gz
Organize a new archive site that is running httpd. Write a client
Installer application that will pick the parts that you want on your
system, download the data, assemble on the client and install. Perhaps
Lighthouse could add this to OmniWeb (or allow someone to do it through an
API).
When a developer is submitting to the archive, they would simply submit
the various arches and "NoBin" package.
Everything else would be handled by the client...
Thoughts, comments???
--
James Heiser <jheiser@adobe.com> Adobe Systems Incorporated
NeXT/MIME mail accepted 1585 Charleston Road
(415) 961-4400 P.O. Box 7900
http://www.adobe.com/ Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Message-ID: <1995Feb16.180011.14180@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <3ho9lq$q1b@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu> <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com> <SPETERS.95Feb15174558@samsun.us.oracle.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:00:11 GMT
In article <SPETERS.95Feb15174558@samsun.us.oracle.com> speters@us.oracle.com writes:
>>In article <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
>>
>>> As far as I know, we currently have no plans to produce a reader for
>>> NEXTSTEP.
>>
>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Tailor have the capability to
>>read .pdf files?
>>
>>Where Adobe doth fall, others will surge...
not quite. Tailor is a remarkable program, but since it doesn't support
either the hyper linking in Acrobat or (and this is the biggie)
font substitution (which, to me, is the whole point of PDF), and it
only support the ASCII version of PDF (not a huge deal), makes for
pretty weak PDF support.
No offense; Tailor is awesome, but it's no substitute for an
Adobe Acrobat viewer. I think it really sucks that NeXT (to my
knowledge) is not doing anything about this...
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/ (don't forget the last "/" !!)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Message-ID: <1995Feb16.180444.29559@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3hugcv$flp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:04:44 GMT
Art Isbell writes
> Unfortunately, separating the binaries duplicates much of the binary
> contents making the total size of the separated binaries considerably
> larger than the single MAB binary, but I believe the tradeoff is well
> worth the extra archive disk space this would require.
>
> Posters of packages don't have to wait for a custom utility to make
> this happen. NeXT provides lipo that can do this for both posters and
> downloaders of binaries. Please use these utilities and stop this waste
> of resources. Not all of us have T1 connections to archive sites.
I would _love_ to upload Opener as several smaller platform binaries.
However, since I can't even depend on people knowing how to use Opener
itself (see next paragraph), I don't feel like I can depend on them
knowing out how to use lipo to put it together, either. And then they'll
complain to me as the Opener maintainer, and I'll have to stop what I'm
doing to assist, and this'll happen twenty jillion times, and I won't get
any other work done.
Some of the Opener questions I get are surprisingly unobservant, and you'd
be surprised how many people haven't even noticed that you can use Opener
to _create_ archive files by dragging them onto Opener's icon when it's
running at the bottom of your screen.
I'm not trying to sound like a sourpuss or imply that NeXTSTEP users are
stupid (far from it--they're very intelligent as a whole!), I'm just
pointing out why it may be impractical to assume that everyone knows what
they're doing. Remember that there are many NeXTSTEP users who are not
familiar (and/or are uncomfortable) with command-line utilities like lipo.
In fact that's who Opener helps the most, making unfamiliar compression
utilities and their myriad command-line options as easy as a double-click.
I like a couple of potential solutions that have been posed, especially
Greg Anderson's.
Denise
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(312) 554-6298 \/ "Older and Bolder!"
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: *** DFG for NeXT, Intel, HP and Sun ***
Message-ID: <1995Feb16.232147.34214@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 16 Feb 95 23:21:47 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
4-Fat demos, January 30, 1995
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
For more information please contact
===================================
Digital Recordings - Advanced R & D
5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H-1Y5, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
DFG and DFG_RT software is now available for 4 architectures :
==============================================================
NeXT, Intel, HP and Sun
=======================
4-Fat demo software is available now via ftp or directly from
Digital Recordings via NeXTmail.
DFG - Introduction
==================
DFG_RTdemo.app is a demo module for real-time synthesis of the
sinusoidal (pure tone) signal.Signals are generated in real time
and do not require the DSP processor (which is not available in
some NeXTSTEP computers).This version should work on all Motorola
Intel, Sun and HP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* and
equipped with D/A converters.
This program works very nicely with Digital Oscilloscope and
Spectrum Analyzer (both applications come with NeXT) and any
recording / editing software. Playback and recording/analysis
of the signal could be done simultaneously since DSP chip is not
used and main processor is used only 2-3% during signal production.
DFG_RT is an ideal signal source for research and teaching in the
fields of acoustics, psychoacoustics, electronics, electroacoustics,
physics, mechanics, vibration measurements, architecture, audiology
and transducer testing.
DFG Software Specifications / Parameters
=========================================
o Stereo output (independent R and L channel)
o Frequency adjustable continuously from 0 to 22,000 Hz.
o Frequency stability : +/- 0.0001 Hz at 1000 Hz
o Amplitude adjustable continuously from -140 to 0 dB
o Amplitude stability : +/- 0.00026 dB at 0 dB
o Phase adjustable continuously from 0 to 360 degrees.
o S/N ratio = 95 dB
DFG_RT Modules
===============
Currently there are 8 modules available in DFG_RT software :
DFG_RTsine.app - for generating pure tones (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsquare.app - for generating square wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTtriangular.app - for generating triangular wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsawtooth.app - for generating sawtooth wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTpulse.app - for generating delta-pulse train (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTnoise.app - for generating white noise in 0->22,050 Hz
range.
DFG_RTnoiseNB.app - for generating narrow band noise from
100->200 Hz to 11,000->22,000 range.
DFG_RTnoiseNBv.app - for generating narrow band noise with
bandwidth adjustable from 20 Hz to 2,000 Hz
and center frequency adjustable from 1 Hz
to 22,000 Hz.
DFGdemo.app and DFG_RTdemo.app are available on the following FTP sites
========================================================================
( please look for the files DFGdemo.app.tar.Z and DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z )
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl/pub2/next/submissions
==> Note 1: Also, you can obtain latest software via NeXTmail
*********** directly from: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
==> Note 2: We are looking forward to feedback, specially from
*********** users of NeXTSTEP on Sun and HP platforms on which
DFG software was not tested yet. Thanks in advance
for your help !
From: wenzel@w3.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 17 Feb 1995 09:11:03 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3i1p77$1dvb@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3hqrr3$1sg0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <1995Feb15.210435.12190@adobe.com>
pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com wrote:
: Did you mean person year? You can't possibly have meant person day. Just
: getting an app like this through QA and getting documentation revised to
: reflect the NEXTSTEP environment would be a big job - and that includes no
: engineering. Am I missing something here?
: Joe Pasqua
: Adobe Systems Incorporated
And if it takes a person year? Wouldn't it be possible, though?
The Reader doesn't need to be free on Nextstep, but at least there
has to be one! Nextstep/Openstep is a growing market, and I don't
wanna see Adobe dropping the most superior DPS platform :-((
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
From: jgomezr@neptune.uucp (JL Gomez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Precompiled headers how?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 18:41:40 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <3i0694$4k5@nic-nac.CSU.net>
I accidently wrote out label_t.h as root on my system.
Now, when I use Project Builder, I now get the annoying message that
it can't use the precompiled header label_t.h because the one in
the machine directory was changed.
How do I fix this problem?
Thanks for the answer!
--
jgomezr@neptune.calstatela.edu
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Inetd stuff
Date: 15 Feb 1995 16:21:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3ht9ml$ogi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello, hello...
I think it's neat how when NeXTStep boots up everything loads up as
standalone via the rc files, but sometimes I would like to yank a few of
those out of there (sendmail for instance) and move them to inetd.conf,
where the daemon will move resident ONLY when necessary.
Is there some reason I should not make this change? Some reason perchance
why everything is found within rc files, and only a few nominal user daemons
such as talk, telnet, and ftp are found within inetd?
Thanks for any tips, etc!
-- John
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | You can live only once, but
4th Year Computer Engineering | if you do it right, once is
Case Western Reserve Univ. | enough.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Unknown
______________________________|_____________________________
"Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied
them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with
computers, and nobody thinks of complaining."
-- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in
Doctor Dobb's Journal
____________________________________________________________
From: scorley@woodman.advtech.uswest.com (Steve Corley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Guages & Nice Icon Builder
Date: 16 Feb 1995 21:59:25 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Message-ID: <3i0hrt$27v@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com>
Does anyone out there know where I can retrieve guages that I can use for
a simple weather app that will display temperature, windspeed, etc.? You
know, something similar to the three guage set that one might buy from
Radio Shack that indicates barometric pressure, temperature, wind speed.
I'm also looking at creating something similar to Monitor.app that has a
nice presentation of the temp (or other stuff) that will display semi-real
time info in the dock (similar to Monitor.app). Icon Builder doesn't cut
it for what I'm after, does anyone know of another high resolution icon
builder, or any other approach for building a nice icon? I'd like to be
able to display a thermometer, weather vane, other stuff in the dock icon.
Thanks
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CheckSum
Date: 16 Feb 1995 22:14:56 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Message-ID: <3i0ip0$4li@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
As I'm about to buy CheckSum (in a few days probably) I just thought I'd
ask if anyone had any strong opinions about it, presumably from having
used or tried to use it for a while--either good or bad opinions.
Even the special price on till the end of this month is more than twice what
you could go to any computer store and buy Quicken for, but not having
SoftPC, and really liking NEXTSTEP programs, I figure I'll poor what
little money I have into our market.
-Karl
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 17 Feb 1995 00:32:19 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i0qqk$82c@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995Feb15.161541.16601@il.us.swissbank.com>
hendryj@mcs.com writes:
> Mark Chamberlain writes
> > irving@Wolfe.NET (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
> > > Sorry about this, I know I've lost it. But SEVEN MEGABYTES
> > > for a silly little system utility! Wow! You guys are nuts!
> >
> > I agree. I recently got a beta version of some nice software
> > that solved this problem by seperating out the binaries, they
> > provided all the NIBs and Help files and app wrapper in one
> > tar file, the 4 seperate MAB binaries in seperate compressed
> > files, and gave careful instructions on how to join them
> > together. It can be done.
>
> I think what may be in order is an enhancement of the "smart"
> ftp servers. Some of the ftp servers can (un)compress, (un)gzip,
> (un)tar files as necessary. It surely would be possible to add
> lipo capabilities to an ftp server, so that one could request a
> certain architecture.
Given a file, such as Opener_NIHS.tar.gz
and a user request for Opener_N.tar.gz
the ftp server would have to uncompress opener, find all the
binaries, strip them appropriately, recompress them, and then
start shipping the file over the net.
Imagine many users asking for this at the same time, such as when
a new version of Opener is released, and you can easily imagine
that the server in question will be overwhelmed. Disk space is
relatively cheap, but you don't want to have to buy the highest-
end machine (CPU-wise) just to run an anonymous FTP server.
Doing something at the server end for the idea Mark Chamberlain
described might be doable, but wouldn't cause as much of an overload
on the server. Maybe not that idea exactly, but something similar.
For any of these suggestions, I believe we should keep in mind the
"URL view" of the world. Here we're going to WWW clients, where
people just click on a word to download the file they want. We do
want that level of simplicity to continue for getting files (but
we don't want to overload the server in the process).
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Subject: Re: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
Message-ID: <D463r0.MxI@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <3i0qo3$k03@news.xmission.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 23:25:47 GMT
In article <3i0qo3$k03@news.xmission.com> kris@xmission.xmission.com
(Kristopher Magnusson) writes:
> > It isn't the same company since Novell took over. :-(
> Novell had nothing to do with the decision to drop the NEXTSTEP version
> of WP. The decision was all over and done with nearly a year before.
I wasn't talking about the decision to drop the NeXTStep version. I was
talking about them:
a) not sending the requested material when promised;
b) requiring a second request by me to get the information;
c) taking 1-3 weeks to fax something that should have been done the
next day;
d) not mentioning the possibility of one of the products I specifically
asked about being discontinued between the time I asked for the
information and when they sent it.
I didn't have those kinds of problems with them in the past.
--
Ed Russell esr@slac.stanford.edu
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Palo Alto/Menlo Park, California
From: deniseh@mcs.com (Denise Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener opening .ps and .eps?
Date: 17 Feb 1995 05:06:11 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i1as3$92p@News1.mcs.com>
References: <3i0eg3$l65@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Michael C. Cam writes
>
> Hi,
>
> I just installed Opener.app v3.1.3a and it autolaunches to open .ps and
> eps files. Is there any way to prevent this.
Yes. Download the _latest_ version, v3.2, instead. It's available at
ftp.cs.orst.edu as of about three days ago.
Denise
--
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Chicago, IL | banging one's head against a wall, but
deniseh@mcs.com | with fewer opportunities for reward.
NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.mcs.com/~deniseh
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 21:38:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502170336.AA01333@alleg.EDU>
I must agree with Garance. The MAB notation should go away now. It
was fine when it when it meant NeXT and Intel, but now what does
"multi" mean? The NIHS or more accurate MIHS (M for Motorola,
rather than NeXT) is much better.
I also agree that the NeXTStep community should NOT just send out
source and make people compile it on their own. First of all, not
everyone is going to want to put their source out there (David
Lambert should not feel obligated to make Fiend's code public
knowledge, for example). Secondly, not all users have the access to
a Developer machine. I'm fortunate that there are some here at
Allegheny, but I'm sure there are a lot of places out there that
don't have it.
However, not everyone can use a FAT binary. 3.x and before didn't
have lipo. It is really too simple to 'thin' something to even
worry about, especially with things like TickleServices and
MetroSuction out there, which allow you to remove specific
architectures.
The idea of having FTP sites with separate binaries is a tough
question. At Allegheny, we have some m68k, some HP and some Intels.
So conceivably, someone might want all three architectures, but not
for Sparcs. Someone else might only want m68k and Intel. Can the
average FTP site handle so many different sets? I don't know, but I
tend to doubt it. (I do agree that they all should be using gzip
rather than compress though, no matter what else they do). Who
would be responsible for making all of the sets? Will future
submitions have to look like this:
David Lambert writes:
"I've submitted the following files to peanuts:
Fiend.2.9.H.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.M.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.I.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.S.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.HS.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.IS.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.MH.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.MI.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.IH.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.MS.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.MHS.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.IHS.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.MIS.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.MIH.tar.gz
Fiend.2.9.MIHS.tar.gz "
Ok, now that's obviously silly beyond belief. Who is going to take
that kind of time? Who has that much room on their FTP site?
I have a thought that may be no less un-reasonable, but I'll put it
out there for others to think about: what could be done in the way of
having FTP files in two sections 1) the common files that are needed
for whatever architecture and 2) the specific binaries. I guess that
doesn't really help, because someone would still have to create all
the different architectures.
It seems like the best solution would be someway to FTP only the
archs you wanted. I can see it now:
get [NIHS] filename.NIHS.tar.gz
and you tell it what to get (choose one or more of the [NIHS]), as
many or as few archs as you want. But this is going to cause more
'on' time for the ftp sites, because the machine itself would have to
do the 'lipo' work. It would still be faster than FTP'ing all the
extra info.
Ok NeXT lovers, any further ideas?
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: need fax software
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 18:01:55 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Feb14.180155.29613@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
References: <3hga0p$llk@hegel.sscnet.ucla.edu> <SWIFT.95Feb10184241@acs3.bu.edu> <MAGNAN.95Feb13112030@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes:
>NXFax will not work on the USR Sporster because this modem only
>supports class 1. NXFax only works with class 2 modems. No driver
>for a class 1 modem exists for NS.
There is support for Class 2.0 (using mgetty+sendfax), and the USR Sportster
now has a ROM upgrade to Class 2.0.
Ciao -- Mark
From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and .gz files
Date: 17 Feb 1995 11:58:06 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <3i230e$l33@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <9502130947.AA00317@next.lnf.infn.it> <schaefer.95Feb15121719@syrtis>
schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu wrote:
>
> > I recently tried to view a .gz file with OmniWeb.app. OmniWeb
> >doesn't automatically uncompress a file so what appeared in
> >the browser was gibberish.
My experience with OmniWeb 0.9.3 (the only one running now :-)) is that
this has improved a lot, and compressed file are now decompressed
automagically. Much better than netscape, which still does not do this.
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
From: federico@heinz.com (Federico Heinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:59:04 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Feb16.125904.5779@heinz.com>
References: <1995Feb13.022604.2877@weston.com>
Organization: F. HEINZ Consultora
Sender: usenet@heinz.com
In comp.sys.next.software article <D40H1D.C6@nimbus.ruhr.de>
schaefer@nimbus.ruhr.de wrote:
> I also can't run Dots 3.5.3 and 3.5.5 under NSI3.3.
> When i use the option "Modify" in the PrintManager i get the
> message "Unrecognizable print entry format".
This is NOT, repeat, NOT, a problem with Dots and/or 3.3. What is happening
here is that you are using PrintManager to configure a Dots printer, *and
that won't work*. It has never worked that way, either. If you had tried this
under 3.2, you would have gotten exactly the same result. To configure a Dots
printer, you *must* use Dots.app
To resume our experience with Dots and NS3.3: we haven't been able to detect
any incompatibilities between them. Some users wrote us telling that they had
problems, but so far we have always been able to track down the problem to
some other cause (ports that weren't configured, bogus configurations, etc).
If anybody out there actually has problems getting Dots to work with NS3.3
(or with any release of NEXTSTEP, for that matter), please do get in contact
with us, with a description of exactly what seems to be going wrong, we'll do
our best to help you out.
Federico Heinz
DISCLAIMER: Bla bla we wrote it bla bla bla.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wargaski@wah.is.rpslmc.edu (Robert E. Wargaski Jr.)
Subject: Re: src revision control?
Message-ID: <1995Feb17.160530.14810@rpslmc.edu>
Sender: news@rpslmc.edu
Organization: Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center
References: <1995Feb15.192635.16692@bMD.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 16:05:30 GMT
kevins@bmd.com wrote:
: Are there any NEXTSTEP product to do source code revision control???
: ---
: Kevin Solie
:
: Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
: Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
Your machine probably has rcs (Revision Control System) on it.
It's a gnu product which is quite nice.
Rob
--
Robert E. Wargaski Jr. wargaski@is.rpslmc.edu
Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke's Medical Center
Chicago, Illinois, USA
From: espie@pavot.ens.fr (Marc Espie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tracker 4.13 is out
Date: 15 Feb 1995 15:53:46 GMT
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France
Message-ID: <3ht82a$qio@nef.ens.fr>
Summary: portable soundtracker player
Took some time, but it's finally out. I've just uploaded tracker-4.13 to
ftp.cnam.fr, and it should migrate to other aminet sites eventually.
Probably will end up in pub/aminet/misc/unix or pub/aminet/mus/players
Some aminet sites are:
ftp.wustl.edu
ftp.etsu.edu
ftp.cdrom.com
ftp.luth.se
ftp.eunet.ch
litamiga.epfl.ch
ftp.uni-paderborn.de
ftp.uni-erlangen.de
ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk
Suitable archive sites for other architectures will probably be announced by
other people, but you have here the whole source-code.
tracker is a portable soundtracker-modules player. This means it can play
soundtracker/protracker modules on many machines: amiga, linux pc, freebsd pc,
NeXt, Silicon Graphics, sun sparc 1/5/10/20, AIX, Dec, Hp... There are also
some more exotic ports which are rumored to work.
Features:
* ports to new architecture, like NeXtStep.
* support for color display.
* lots of minor bugs suppressed.
* more sturdier code for LOTS of things.
Non-Features:
* tracker still doesn't play .au, .wav, s3m modules, nor med modules, nor
can it read powerpacked files (but this may change soon !!!)
To build tracker, you may need some knowledge of your system, as it may happen
that the current release is not up to date as far as your particular port is
concerned. Anyhow, things should settle during the following week, and
appropriate binaries will show up on various sites.
As I don't read all the groups I've crossposted to, please do answer through
e-mail to Marc.Espie@ens.fr
I do apologize if my post is out of order in some of these groups. I thought
this information was of interest to all these groups, but I may have erred.
--
[nosave]<http://acacia.ens.fr:8080/home/espie/index.html>
`Ayuka no koto... suki dayo.' (KOR, Ano Hi ni kaeritai)
`$@0>@n(J $@$N$3$H!<9%$-$@$h!#(J' ($@$"$NF|$K5"$j$?$$(J)(B
Marc Espie (Marc.Espie@ens.fr)
From: Dan Conrad <ez049445@peseta.ucdavis.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Establishing SLIP connection
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:38:51 -0800
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950215142605.2993A-100000@bullwinkle>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I'm new to NeXTSTEP and fairly new to Unix.
I'm at a university which offers SLIP connection to their Sun's. I'd
like to get hooked up, but I'm not sure where to start. I'd like to be
able to use NeXTMail (through POP, I'm assuming) as well as basic
terminal access to the campus machines. Some discussion has been
posted, but not at the elementary level where I need it.
I'm running NS 2.1 on black hardware. I have no SLIP software, and I
currently use Microphone Pro.
Sorry for the basic question, but I don't know where else to start. If
someone can just point me in the right direction, that would be great, too.
Thanks in advance,
-Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko)
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
Message-ID: <D45oGK.31C@cuug.ab.ca>
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
References: <1995Feb13.022604.2877@weston.com> <D40H1D.C6@nimbus.ruhr.de>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 17:50:52 GMT
I've sent several messages over the past week to DaRT regarding a new version
of DOTs and other issues, but haven't received *any* response. Are they
still around? or don't they bother to support existing customers.
Tim
From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with TeXview (NS 3.2 on Intel)
Date: 17 Feb 1995 19:40:28 GMT
Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <J.M.FIGUEROA.95Feb17194028@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk>
Hi,
TeXview used to work fine until recently. I am not sure what happened
-- maybe the upgrade to 3.2, I don't recall. But now when displaying
encapsulated PostScript files it seems to either die most
ungracefully, or else it displays them flipped and translated! Has
anyone else had this problem?
Cheers,
--Jose
--
+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+
| Jose M. Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.171.975-5055 |
| Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.181.981-7465 |
| Queen Mary and Westfield College | email: J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk |
| Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | |
| or |
| check out http://stringswww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/~jmf/jmf.html on the WWW. |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+
From: jbf@mitre.org (James B. Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 02:21:17 -0500
Organization: Mitre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <jbf-1802950221170001@mbppp2.mitre.org>
References: <3hrths$b0@news1.wolfe.net> <3hugm5$m2j@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <3hugm5$m2j@usenet.rpi.edu>, gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) wrote:
> However, I do think we have to consider other ways to organize
> things on the FTP servers. I have a script which splits apart
> an application into separate architectures, and also creates
> gnutar/gzip archives of the results.
Absolutely! The most trivial app is becoming a major pain to download for
those of us who have no direct NeXT access. (I download ond post from a
Mac, by necessity.) If I hadn't been able to persuade the local guru
to provide such a file splitter, I would be unable to usefully access the
archives except via a 9600 bps link from a NeXT at home. The prospect of
downloading a 2-3 MByte file over such a link is so grim that I just
ignore most posts. Somehow, I doubt this is what the posters (more
power to them) hoped for.
> The penalty is for the disk space on the FTP site.
What is the point of an archive requiring wideband access for effective
access? One possibility would be to throw the commercial demos off (given
current prices, high time they provided their own sites, also capable of
dealing with tech support). The archives could then limit new postings to,
say, 1 MB in length. The developers would grumble but soon adapt. (I have to
admit I'll download a critical app like Opener, regardless of what it takes.
But my clip level is such that I just ignore Don's misckit updates for 6 to
12 months. I doubt this was what his developers had in mind.)
While I'm grumbling, why not delete the crosslinks beteween top level (binary,
source, etc directories? They confuse things to no useful purppose I can see!.
Barney
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ken@volkl.CS.Princeton.EDU (Ken Steiglitz)
Subject: software to print NeXT -> Mac?
Message-ID: <1995Feb17.184034.28382@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Princeton University
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 18:40:34 GMT
Is there software around that will print from a Motorola NeXT
cube to an old dot-matrix imagewriter meant for a Mac SE?
Please reply by e-mail.
Many thanks! - ken
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Dept. of Computer Science URL http://www.cs.Princeton.EDU/~ken
35 Olden Street office Room 421, CS Building
Princeton University tel 609-258-4629
Princeton, NJ 08544-2087 fax 609-258-1771
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From: mikep1461@aol.com (MikeP 1461)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Software emulation -is SoftPC worth the $$?
Date: 18 Feb 1995 11:51:14 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3i58i2$j0b@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <3h140d$8oa@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
I work with MO86 and this is an unsolicited confirmation of his opinion.
I am of the same opinion as he, that if you buy NextStep, use Next apps.
The Next environment is extremely easy to work in as a user. Soft PC is a
dog that often just doesn't interface well with Next (after all, you are
emulating a shell program over an operating system within another
operating system.) If you have legacy data, find Next apps into which you
import the old data. You'll be glad you did.
No one Mo and I work with had any experience with Next before last year.
As such you would expect some of them to be die hard DOS users. This has
not proved to be the case: everyone has universally accepted Next.
From: lasmith@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do I PRINT 2-UP from within Edit.App??
Date: 18 Feb 1995 17:16:07 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3i5a0n$rbm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi,
SUbject says it all. I know this is possible from within LaTeX, but the
problem is that I have downloaded a 20+ page a ascii file that has broken
lines thoughout at about 40 characters, and I do not want to waste all that
paper just to keep a hard copy.........
Many thanks,
Lones
PS I am asking because I vaguely thought this was possible in NS....
--
Lones A. Smith, Economics, MIT || The `v' in Massachvsetts Institvte
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 || of Technology is a Latin affectation
617-253-0914 (voice), -6915 (fax) || with which I strongly disagree.
lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail OK) || Feel free to svbstitvte `u' as desired.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <D4635J.HL0@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 23:12:55 GMT
References: <9502170336.AA01333@alleg.edu>
Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it.
In article <9502170336.AA01333@alleg.edu>,
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
>I must agree with Garance. The MAB notation should go away now. It
>was fine when it when it meant NeXT and Intel, but now what does
>"multi" mean? The NIHS or more accurate MIHS (M for Motorola,
>rather than NeXT) is much better.
Yes, MAB should go away, and no, M(otorola) is *not* better than N(eXT).
1) N is already the standard; would have to change.
2) What happens when we get other Motorola-based architectures, like PowerPC?
(Yeah, I know, I said "when" not "if". :-))
[...]
> Will future submitions have to look like this:
>
>David Lambert writes:
>"I've submitted the following files to peanuts:
>Fiend.2.9.H.tar.gz
>Fiend.2.9.M.tar.gz
>Fiend.2.9.I.tar.gz
>Fiend.2.9.S.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.HS.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.IS.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.MH.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.MI.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.IH.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.MS.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.MHS.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.IHS.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.MIS.tar.gz
*>Fiend.2.9.MIH.tar.gz
>Fiend.2.9.MIHS.tar.gz "
>
>Ok, now that's obviously silly beyond belief. Who is going to take
>that kind of time? Who has that much room on their FTP site?
*-Not needed.
I think you contradicted yourself. You said that some people can't thin, but
some other people need more than one combination. So, then you get (N+1)
binaries, where N is the number of arcitectures it's available for, and the
additional one contains all architectures. (Plus a README, so I guess it
should be (N+2).)
I know, this effectively doubles the size of the distribution on the FTP
site, but that'd be the best way for the "consumer".
>It seems like the best solution would be someway to FTP only the
>archs you wanted. I can see it now:
>
>get [NIHS] filename.NIHS.tar.gz
>
>and you tell it what to get (choose one or more of the [NIHS]), as
>many or as few archs as you want. But this is going to cause more
>'on' time for the ftp sites, because the machine itself would have to
>do the 'lipo' work. It would still be faster than FTP'ing all the
>extra info.
So, it's CPU vs. drive space. Since both are already at a premium, how about
just making everything seperate? It would cause more of a hassle for those
who need multiple architectures, but I think it would save a lot of CPU time
and disk space.
Just think of all the MABs out there now taking up disk space because they
aren't thinned or lipo-ed. Or, how many CPU cycles were wasted FAT-ing and
THIN-ing these files?
Maybe FTP sites need to be organised like this:
Fiend.v/
Opener.v/
and so on, for each program and version. Then, within each directory,
there'd be a README and all available binaries. If someone wanted
everything, they could do an easy (already implemented) "mget *" command,
chewing up no more CPU time, etc.
The distributer/author could distribute a program.version.gnutar.gz file to
the FTP site containing the entire directory, too.
Any flaws in my reasoning? Hoping not...
--
Chadwick A. Dubuque, cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu /^\
North Dakota State U. Ass'n for Computing Machinery Chairperson <acm>
http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key \v/
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 missing Literature.pkg ?
Date: 19 Feb 1995 03:30:33 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i6e0p$hps@news.ycc.yale.edu>
I am testing a NEXTSTEP 3.3 system, and have noticed it is
missing Literature.pkg. On 3.2, Literature.pkg contained:
-> # The info file for the 3.2 Literature package
->
-> # These fields will be displayed in the Info View
-> Title Literature
-> Version NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 for PA-RISC
-> Description This package contains the complete
-> works of Shakespeare, the Oxford Dictionary of
-> Quotations, and the pictures for Digital Webster.
-> Install it only on HP PA-RISC computers running
-> NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 for PA-RISC and that have the
-> Digital Webster package installed.
On 3.3, there is a new package, WebsterIllustrations.pkg,
which contains:
-> # The info file for the 3.3 Webster Illustrations package
->
-> # These fields are displayed in the Info view
-> Title Digital Webster Illustrations
-> Version NEXTSTEP Release 3.3
-> Description This package contains the
-> Illustrations for Digital Webster. Install it only on
-> computers running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 that have the
-> Digital Webster package installed.
Has NeXT dropped Literature.pkg for 3.3?
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 18 Feb 1995 09:40:30 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i4fae$pt8@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <3hsfo5$b8h@xexos.xexos.com> <3hugcv$flp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Some statistics on another obese package: OpenWrite_1.1beta. After 3 hours
of ftp'ing over a 14k4 SLIP line I discovered to my joy that the Thinner.app
which is included works like a charm, and to my chagrin that the size of
OpenWrite.app was reduced from 24.7 to 7.31 MB (m68k only). Now, if only one
could invoke this Thinner _before_ ftp'ing. Maybe they can put up
single-arch .tar.gz files for simple souls with a single computer like me?
It seems that the usual argument "modern-day applications are so little code
and so much other stuff that the extra object code hardly matters" is not
true, even for a bundle-app like OpenWrite.
BTW, it seems that Thinner.app also works on non-Xanthus apps like Opener
(the old version, I have not found time to ftp the new one :-)); although I
am not sure what those fine folks in Sweden think of abusing it --- the docs
say it is only supposed to work with theirs.
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh,
Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics
Leiden University
gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com
Subject: Japanese Text on NeXT?
Message-ID: <1995Feb19.023514.422@cmich.slip.netcom.com>
Originator: news@cmich.slip.netcom.com
Keywords: Japanese
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: Netcom
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 02:35:14 GMT
Does anyone know how to get Japanese text to display on NeXT Computers?
There is an option in NewsGrazer to display .jis documents, but I can't
seem to get it to work.
If there's a japanese word processor that runs on NeXT, I'd really like to
know about it!
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com
NeXT Mail and MIME Mail gladly accepted
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 18 Feb 1995 07:43:51 -0800
Organization: runner
Message-ID: <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp>
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
John Devlin (jdevlin@umich.edu) wrote:
: One complaint people have had about NewsGrazer is that it takes a long
: time to start up. If that's a problem, try OmniWeb and type in
: news:your.news.group.of.choice
: You don't get all the features of NewsGrazer, but the articles load damn
: quick.
How do I set up preferences in OmniWeb
to tell OmniWeb to look at the local host
for usenet news?
--
Richard
richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
(ok to send NeXT Mail)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Date: 17 Feb 1995 23:35:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i3bs3$qti@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <1995Feb17.170220.15875@adobe.com>
In article <1995Feb17.170220.15875@adobe.com> James Heiser
<jheiser@adobe.com> writes:
> Organize a new archive site that is running httpd. Write a client
> Installer application that will pick the parts that you want on your
> system, download the data, assemble on the client and install.
>
> Thoughts, comments???
>
Despite the Web rage, what percentage of NS archive users are
Web-enabled? This solution seems very premature.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant Voice: +1 408 335 1154
Trego Systems Fax: +1 408 335 2515
CaseServ: NEXTSTEP managed care USmail: 315 Moon Meadow Lane
contract and case management solutions Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: royalta@aol.com (RoyalTA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: AppleTalk module and NS3.3
Date: 18 Feb 1995 17:04:36 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3i5qtk$mug@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <uk05899.792792599@mik.uky.edu>
I had to go back to NS3.2 in order to keep the AppleTalk capability.
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Date: 18 Feb 1995 00:33:28 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i3f8o$hgj@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <3i3bs3$qti@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <3i3bs3$qti@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> In article <1995Feb17.170220.15875@adobe.com> James Heiser
> <jheiser@adobe.com> writes:
> > Organize a new archive site that is running httpd. Write a client
> > Installer application that will pick the parts that you want on your
> > system, download the data, assemble on the client and install.
> >
> > Thoughts, comments???
> >
I have noted two camps of people. First there are those who
want the developer to split the app before placing on the archive.
As noted, this would lead to more disk usage but less demand on the
server.
Second, there are those who would like the server to automagically split
the file for the user. This would conserve disk space at the expense of
more load on the server. It also eases the burden on the developer.
My suggestion would be to develop an app that did either one. That way,
the site administrator could determine which was best for the site.
A unified front end for NS users would be nice. For instance, you could
make both an OmniWeb mechanism for those using WWW or, a script or program
that accepted URLs as input and then automagically FTPd the pieces over
(for those who don't use WWW). I suggest URLs only because
comp.sys.next.announce has chosen this as the preferred mechanism for
pointing to files.
- Steve
--
============================================================
Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP key
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Obscurely documented feature of Fiend v1.3 - toggling window tier
Date: 17 Feb 1995 09:17:44 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3i2b68$ojg@panix.com>
Hi.
Stephen Perkins just made me aware that a certain feature
of Fiend v1.3 is very obscurely documented. It is only
mentioned in the "Incompatibilities" section of the Release
Notes:
* Toggling the Fiend Dock's window tier is now performed by
alt-clicking the Fiend Dock icon, rather than from the
Preferences panel
This is, of course, just like the Workspace dock, so some
people will have discovered it by themselves, no doubt.
(This lets you have the Fiend Dock above all windows or
below them.)
Just in case you hadn't discovered it, now you know.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Bible Translations
Date: 17 Feb 1995 15:03:30 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502172101.AA02903@alleg.EDU>
Receantly I picked up a KJV Bible off the net for the
NeXT. I happy with format but not with the translation.
Does anyone know where I can ftp a copy of the RSV
text? Or are there any commericial releases available
of any new translations (niv, nrsv, nkjv, etc.)
All of the other versions of the Bible are copyrighted, and therefore
must be purchased. I know of no commercial Bible software which has
been developed for NeXTStep, though. Usually it is just DOS/Windows
and occasionally a MAC. You _might_ be able to find Nkjv somewhere,
but I don't know where.
It has been awile since I looked.
If you are really interested, the group to check is
'soc.religion.christian.bible-study'. They have/had a full list of
the (Christian) Bible software available.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener opening .ps and .eps?
Date: 17 Feb 1995 15:06:30 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502172104.AA03057@alleg.EDU>
>
> I just installed Opener.app v3.1.3a and it autolaunches
> to open .ps and eps files. Is there any way to
> prevent this.
Yes. Download the _latest_ version, v3.2, instead.
It's available at ftp.cs.orst.edu as of about three
days ago.
more than likely you can also use the Tools/Inspector in WM. It is
usually cmd-2. Do that when selected on a .ps or .eps file and it
will show opener.app as the default app, and should show other
choices. Click on Preview and the Set to get it back to "normal".
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CheckSum
Date: 17 Feb 1995 14:43:18 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <CRATH.95Feb17094318@bcarh3b5.bnr.ca>
References: <3i0ip0$4li@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In-reply-to: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU's message of 16 Feb 1995 22:14:56 GMT
I've been using CheckSum for about 6 months to keep our family
finances straight. It works very well doing that. I would not want
to do business accounting with it, as it doesn't have enough
customizability. It produces reasonable reports, however, it took me
a little bit of playing around to figure out how they work (they do
work, just not the way I expected). The documentation is minimal, but
was enough to get me going; and I've never taken an accounting course.
I would rate it 4 out of 5.
The only bugs I've encountered are:
+ the account details windows grow in physical size by the height of
the button area each time checksum is invoked (low severity
problem, but medium annoyance)
+ there is no way to edit transactions which involve transfers
between accounts (again, low severity, but very high annoyance); I
keep this one from bothering me by being VERY careful when I enter
account transfers
BTW I am running version 1.16.
Christopher
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From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SoftPC 4.0 with TCP/IP and other questions
Date: 19 Feb 1995 22:05:52 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3i8fc0$fno@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Can somebody out there help me with enabling TCP/IP and WINSOCK with
SoftPC 4.0 :
I tried to load ETHERSPC.COM right after LSL.COM, but it does not load
properly (complains about missing IPX support for Ethernet 802.3 frames,
if my memory serves me right).
Do I have to change NET.CFG ?
What I want to do is load ISIPXODI and ISTCPIP afterwards, which apparently
don't load properly if something went wrong with ETHERSPC.COM.
I guess I don't have to tell TCP/IP about the local configuration then, as
TCP/IP is already configured for NEXTSTEP 3.3 ?
Is that all what is needed to enable WINSOCK under Windows ?
Can I run Windows in pseudo-enhanced mode then ?
BTW, what is this pseudo-enhanced mode anyway, any chance it might be
replaced by true enhanced mode ?
Should I get hold of the SoftPC manuals (they seem to be lost) ?
A lot of questions, but I would appreciate any hint !
Thanks, Ernst.
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From: jfd@lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Importing NeXT EPS to Mac Photoshop
Date: 14 Feb 95 11:19:06
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <jfd.95Feb1411196@hiram-2>
References: <3hqjr4$8i3@umigw.miami.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
I have also struggled with getting NeXT graphics into an application which displays only bitmaps. Best tool so far has been OmniImage. It converts to about 30 different formats, but it does not work for everything.
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From: jtykal@mcs.com (Jim Tykal)
Subject: Re: src revision control?
Message-ID: <1995Feb17.183358.5055@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <1995Feb17.160530.14810@rpslmc.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 18:33:58 GMT
Robert E. Wargaski Jr. writes
> kevins@bmd.com wrote:
> : Are there any NEXTSTEP product to do source code revision control???
> <snip>
Try DevMan from VNP Software. It provides a NeXTSTEP GUI on top of RCS.
A fully functional, time-bombed version of DevMan is available by
sending mail to DevMan_Demo@vnp.com. Please note that the mail message
that this generates is a little less than 2MB in size. If your mailer is
incapable of handling messages this large, you will have to use anonymous
ftp to vnp.com, or contact VNP directly at:
VNP Software, Inc.
10A Gardner Rd.
Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
Phone: (617) 661-4292
Fax: (617) 864-6768
NOTE:
I am in no way affiliated with VNP -- just a relatively satisfied user!
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From: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch (E. Baranzini)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Message-ID: <1995Feb19.153505.616@muscat.pr.net.ch>
Sender: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch
References: <jbf-1802950221170001@mbppp2.mitre.org>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 15:35:05 GMT
In article <jbf-1802950221170001@mbppp2.mitre.org> jbf@mitre.org (James B.
Frazer) writes:
> Absolutely! The most trivial app is becoming a major pain to download for
> those of us who have no direct NeXT access. (I download ond post from a
> Mac, by necessity.) If I hadn't been able to persuade the local guru
> to provide such a file splitter, I would be unable to usefully access the
> archives except via a 9600 bps link from a NeXT at home. The prospect of
> downloading a 2-3 MByte file over such a link is so grim that I just
[...]
> The archives could then limit new postings to,
> say, 1 MB in length. The developers would grumble but soon adapt. (I have
> to admit I'll download a critical app like Opener, regardless of what it
> takes.
> But my clip level is such that I just ignore Don's misckit updates for 6
> to 12 months. I doubt this was what his developers had in mind.) While I'm
> Barney
I second the idea to limit to, say, no more than 2 MB __and__ split the
architectures. For us with relatively slow and billable links (9.6 - 19.2
bps) it would then be possible to get the new stuff. I have __not__ get the
MiscKit, I have __not__ get Opener and so on (sorry for the very good work,
but :-(( ... ).
You should also think that, for instance, in Switzerland a normal voice phone
line will last for an hour and then it will be cut automatically by the
(public) phone company. As a consequence, I am able to download a maximum of
4-5 MB, if the link is very good. A bigger package is unreachable for me.
You can say "go with ISDN or other faster link": of course, they exist, but
they are also very very expensive (bill from the phone company __and__ bill
from my Internet provider).
So, think sometimes about the constraints of the people who are paying from
their private money to be with the Internet community.
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From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stopwatch.app - author, please!
Message-ID: <1995Feb20.122934.414@tanuki.twics.com>
Date: 20 Feb 95 12:29:34 JST
Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access]
I've been looking for the source to the most recent version of Stopwatch.app.
If anyone knows the e-mail address of the author of this excellent piece of
work, (I looked through the on-line stuff and couldn't see it) or if he's
reading this newsgroup, please let me know (I'd like to make it work in yen,
with no decimal places and a Yen symbol for the currency (I've already altered
the nibs and the libraries to accept Japanese input.
Thanks
Hugh Ashton
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: anybody succesfully compile octave?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 19:59:41 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Message-ID: <3i0ard$j7i@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Hi, there
I just get the Octave 1.1 ( a Matlab-like program )
but fail when compile it.
If anybody compile it succesfully?
Mark
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: tiff to gif converter?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 20:40:30 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i0d7u$gj@news.iastate.edu>
Does anybody know of a tiff to gif converter that will preserve the alpha
of a pic?
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From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Japanese Text on NeXT?
Date: 19 Feb 1995 17:20:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3i7ul7$2of@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1995Feb19.023514.422@cmich.slip.netcom.com>
In article <1995Feb19.023514.422@cmich.slip.netcom.com>
chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com writes:
>> Does anyone know how to get Japanese text to display on NeXT Computers?
>> There is an option in NewsGrazer to display .jis documents, but I can't
>> seem to get it to work.
>>
Well .. do you have the Japanese Kanji fonts?
>> If there's a japanese word processor that runs on NeXT, I'd really like to
>> know about it!
>>
There is ... actually, there are some :
(assume you want native NeXT stuff, not X-Win stuff)
1. Edit.app (for NS 3.x J)
2. VJE- PEN
3. Tsukue (?) WriteDesk ..
The catch is .. they all require NeXTSTEP 3.x J.
try http://cnd.canon.co.jp for more detail if you can handle
kanji on your web browser.
>> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
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>> chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com
>> NeXT Mail and MIME Mail gladly accepted
>>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Message-ID: <D48oB8.GF@cicero.ping.de>
Sender: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <9502170336.AA01333@alleg.EDU>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 08:45:07 GMT
In article <9502170336.AA01333@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
writes:
[snip]
: The idea of having FTP sites with separate binaries is a tough
: question. At Allegheny, we have some m68k, some HP and some Intels.
: So conceivably, someone might want all three architectures, but not
: for Sparcs. Someone else might only want m68k and Intel. Can the
: average FTP site handle so many different sets? I don't know, but I
: tend to doubt it. (I do agree that they all should be using gzip
: rather than compress though, no matter what else they do). Who
: would be responsible for making all of the sets? Will future
In my opinion the most (home) users want to get _only_one_ of the listed
architectures. For them it would be best to download the appropriate bundle.
The other ones can still download the MAB and lipo out the binaries they
don't want. (Of course this would mean more disk space "wasted" on the ftp
archives).
: It seems like the best solution would be someway to FTP only the
: archs you wanted. I can see it now:
:
: get [NIHS] filename.NIHS.tar.gz
:
: and you tell it what to get (choose one or more of the [NIHS]), as
: many or as few archs as you want. But this is going to cause more
: 'on' time for the ftp sites, because the machine itself would have to
: do the 'lipo' work. It would still be faster than FTP'ing all the
: extra info.
But it would take a lot of CPU power to untar the app, lipo unwanted
architectures out and tar.gz it afterwards for FTP.
The better solution would be the to keep different pkgs for each binary and
one MAB in the archive.
greetings from good old germany,
-dirk
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* dirk@cicero.ping.de (NeXT-Mail please) *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Message-ID: <D48oID.H7@cicero.ping.de>
Sender: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <3hugm5$m2j@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 08:49:25 GMT
In article <3hugm5$m2j@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
: would be). With the above strategy, anyone who wants a single
: architecture can just get it. Anyone who wants more than one
: architecture would have to get the MAB file, and then thin it down
: to the ones they were interested in.
I can only agree !!
In my opinion the most of the users only need single architecture binaries.
: The penalty is for the disk space on the FTP site. The tar.Z file
: takes up about 3 million bytes, while the above layout takes up
: about 5.3 million bytes. So, the above uses up about 75% more disk
: space on the server, but it should save a *huge* amount on the CPU
: and networking load at the ftp site. Most people would only need
: to transfer 800,000 bytes, instead of 3,000,000. The numbers would
: come out differently for other packages, of course.
Sure, but FTP archives do not only keep NeXT-Files. Only this part of the
archive would grow. I would still find that acceptable.
-dirk
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* dirk@cicero.ping.de (NeXT-Mail please) *
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From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
Subject: Re: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 11:44:32 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950220113651.13506C-100000@hphalle10b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi> <D4464q.3Iq@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> <3i0qo3$k03@news.xmission.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3i0qo3$k03@news.xmission.com>
On 17 Feb 1995, Kristopher Magnusson wrote:
> Edwin S. Russell (esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
>
> : Last December I called WP and asked for some information on WP for NeXTs
> : and for AIX. I needed the info quickly. They promised to fax it to me
> : the NeXT :-) day. Three weeks later (now January) I wrote them a letter to
> : ask what happened to the information . A week after that they sent the info
> : on AIX but they said they had discontinued selling the NeXT version at the
> : end of December.
> Novell had nothing to do with the decision to drop the NEXTSTEP version
> of WP. The decision was all over and done with nearly a year before.
>
I'm very disappointed by WP, too! It seems as WP is dropping every
'small' OS. Just a short story about the Amiga WP version: They got
sponsored by Commodore to do the port (some big bucks, developers and
hardware went to WP). When they finished a beta version everybody was
happy, because there wasn't anything better. It was very expensive
though, but I believe it sold quite good! For me the release was just a
beta, because on many modells, printing didn't work well, and some
features just weren't implemented. After doing this 'small' port. WP
dropped WP for the Amiga, nothing new was done, because 'there are too
many cracked versions'. I can't believe this (I own an original, and it was
pretty much money these times, but I thought it was worth the support I
would get...). I'd like to know the reason, why they dropped the NeXTSTEP
port. Surely it isn't the number of cracked versions...
CU,
Boerny.
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Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton)
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Organization: Madge Networks
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 11:53:17 GMT
Message-ID: <D4Arow.nC@madge1.demon.co.uk>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
References: <1995Feb15.232332.6258@bMD.com>
kevins@bmd.com wrote:
: any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc. I'm having a hell of a
: time getting this to work and tech support at Insignia is not too helpful
: help me
There are two ways to do it.
1) From the SoftPC hard disk configuration pannel. But read the release
notes (in the on-line help) - this is the fastest way, but not only is it
not guaranteed to work if your disk (not your DOS partition) is greater than
500Mbyte, it can be downright dangerous in this case.
2) From the SoftPC FSA configuration pannel - NEXTSTEP makes the DOS
partition look like a UNIX filesystem, so you can mount it as a "network drive"
just like any other part of a UNIX filesystem. Slower, but much safer.
But then my knowlege is getting a little out of date...
Mike.
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From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Opener opening .ps and .eps?
Date: 16 Feb 1995 21:01:55 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i0eg3$l65@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
I just installed Opener.app v3.1.3a and it autolaunches to open .ps and
eps files. Is there any way to prevent this. I tried looking in
Opener.table in the app folder but those extensions were not listed there.
The previous version (v3.1.2 I think) left .ps and .eps files alone.
Thanks in advance.
--
..Mike.
From: mdobsch@phantom (Matthew Dobschuetz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Bible Translations
Date: 16 Feb 1995 21:32:03 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Message-ID: <3i0g8j$sod@kelso.abbott.com>
Keywords: Bible
Receantly I picked up a KJV Bible off the net for the NeXT. I happy with
format but not with the translation. Does anyone know where I can ftp a
copy of the RSV text? Or are there any commericial releases available of
any new translations (niv, nrsv, nkjv, etc.)
Please e-mail me at mdobsch@woodstock.abbott.com.
Thanks
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
Date: 18 Feb 1995 18:29:02 GMT
Organization: dART Software GmbH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i5e9e$rij@dart.dART.DE>
References: <D45oGK.31C@cuug.ab.ca>
Tim Wasko writes
> I've sent several messages over the past week to DaRT regarding a new version
> of DOTs and other issues, but haven't received *any* response. Are they
> still around? or don't they bother to support existing customers.
>
> Tim
DART doesn't distribute DOTS to North-American end-users anymore, since we are
focussing on the European market.
North-American customers who are interested in the DOTS printer driver should
contact Alembic/Object Technologies <info@alembic.com> or OpenSource
<info@opensource.com>.
For detailed technical questions you can also contact the author at
<dots@heinz.com>.
We will of course continue to support our existing customers and new customers
in Europe.
Sorry for any inconveniences.
Wilfried Beeck
DART Software GmbH
PS: The DOTS version that we are shipping on CD-ROM is 3.5.3. It is also
included in the NS 3.3 Third Party CD. The latest version 3.5.5 is available
from various archives. Both versions work with NS 3.2 and NS 3.3.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: DBKit Adaptor for MiniSQL?
Message-ID: <D4925L.2JB@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: damonc@tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 13:44:09 GMT
I know there is an EOF adaptor available, but is there a DBKit adaptor
anywhere?
Thanks in advance,
---
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
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damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
[NEXTMAIL: OK]
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From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Message-ID: <1995Feb20.000309.5018@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual
References: <D48oID.H7@cicero.ping.de>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 00:03:09 GMT
Here is a real issue indeed...
The ideal solution = same archive volume + selective download
How about all submitters slice they app wrappers into:
- portable resources .tar.gz
- m68k binaries .tar.gz
- i386 binaries .tar.gz
- ...
the following C-shell script does the job (rather
inelegantly I must admit... no cheking performed
=> please improve !):
#
# The purpose of this csh script is to slice an app wrapper's
# binaries for archiving into architecture-thin mirrored wrappers...
#
# Yann Lechelle - Feb 20 1995
#
pushd $1
set ISFAT = 0
foreach FILE (`find * -print`)
set INFO = `lipo -info $FILE`
if ( `echo $INFO | grep fat | grep -v Non-fat | wc -l` ) then
set ISFAT = 1
foreach ARCH (m68k i386 hppa sparc)
set EXTRACT = `echo $INFO | grep $ARCH | wc -l`
if ( $EXTRACT ) then
mkdirs ../$1.$ARCH/$FILE
rmdir ../$1.$ARCH/$FILE
lipo -thin $ARCH $FILE -output ../$1.$ARCH/$FILE
endif
end
rm $FILE
endif
end
popd
if ( $ISFAT ) then
mv $1 $1.rsc
foreach DIR (m68k i386 hppa sparc rsc)
gnutar -cvf $1.$DIR.tar $1.$DIR
gzip -9 $1.$DIR.tar
end
else
echo This wrapper is not fat...
endif
# ---------------------- end of script ------------------------
Then on the downloaders end, we need a script that merges all
wrappers into one big FAT one...
Given my poor fluency in script writing, I'll leave someone else
do the job...
Cheers,
YL.
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From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
Message-ID: <D477Mn.88@vergil.ping.de>
Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <D45oGK.31C@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 13:47:11 GMT
In article <D45oGK.31C@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko) writes:
> I've sent several messages over the past week to DaRT regarding a new
version
> of DOTs and other issues, but haven't received *any* response. Are they
> still around? or don't they bother to support existing customers.
>
> Tim
I did it, too in the past, i got no response.
Two other guys of our club tried again last week - nothing.
But DART is around - super service - super marketing. :-(
DART is German Distributor for NeXT.
Howw will NeXT get a market -
- bad e-mail service
- bad marketing
- much to expensive
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From: samurai@marge.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 missing Literature.pkg ?
Date: 21 Feb 1995 07:12:20 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Feb21021220@marge.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3i6e0p$hps@news.ycc.yale.edu> <1995Feb19.153553.2666@lkba.uucp>
In-reply-to: uunet!lkba!lkb's message of Sun, 19 Feb 1995 15:35:53 GMT
<uunet!lkba!lkb> writes:
>Question: I've assumed that since these were licensed to me in a past
>version I'm still able to use them 'legally' after the upgrade. This might
>be a bad assumption. Anyone know?
You paid to use them.... I'd think that paying money to lose the right
to use something you paid for previously isn't much of an upgrade. If it
were against the license, then I'd not think that it'd hold up very
well...
I wouldn't worry about it. It would be nice though if NeXT offered these
as an extra $20 option though (or whatever it is to cover the license
fees). It was one of those things that made the line distict between
NEXTSTEP and other PC OS's.
For what it's worth, on what other platform would I be able to be in a
Shakespearian mood, and be able to immediately zip up a sig? Well,
noplace now, I guess. Grey, grey, grey... where'd the fun stuff go?
- db
--
For he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother; be he ne'er
so vile, this day shall gentle his condition. Gentlemen in England now abed
shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods
cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
From: bauer@kepler.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Bauer Sebastian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Serial port speed with tty-device-driver (57600 baud - how???)
Date: 21 Feb 1995 09:44:01 GMT
Organization: Lehrstuhl B fuer Mechanik, Technical University Munich
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iccl1$ap2@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hi,
I have connected a V.34 modem to my NeXT, and now I have discovered,
that the NeXT-tty driver (ttya, cua, cufa, ...) supports only transfer
rates up to 38400 baud. I have heard rumors, that the serial ports of
the NeXTstation turbo can handle speeds up to 57600 baud. But what
software (device drivers) should I use to get that speed?
Currently I use tip, kermit (wermit) and ppp2.2, making each of them
connect to the modem through /dev/cufa. My modem is supposed to support
the serial port transfer-rates 115200, 57600, 28800, 19200, 14400, 9600, ...
and the tty-driver - see "man 4 tty" is supposed to support 38400, 19200,
9600, ..., so the best match would be 19200.
Thank you very much for any help.
Sebastian
--
Sebastian Bauer <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de>
From: bauer@kepler.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Bauer Sebastian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXfax and ppp2.2: How?
Date: 21 Feb 1995 09:52:48 GMT
Organization: Lehrstuhl B fuer Mechanik, Technical University Munich
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3icd5g$ap2@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hi,
I am using ppp2.2 and want to use additionally NXfax for sending faxes.
But when I am installing NXfax, it takes the serial port for listening
to incoming faxes and doesn't let ppp use it anymore (that means, that
ppp isn't able to start up anymore).
What can I do to make them work together?
By the way, is there a way to make ppp2.2 doing a dial-on-demand?
Thanks for any help,
Sebastian
--
Sebastian Bauer <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de>
From: speters@samsun.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 16 Feb 1995 01:45:58 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood City, CA, USA
Message-ID: <SPETERS.95Feb15174558@samsun.us.oracle.com>
References: <3ho9lq$q1b@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu> <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com>
In-reply-to: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com's message of Tue, 14 Feb 1995 17:29:42 GMT
In article <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
> As far as I know, we currently have no plans to produce a reader for
> NEXTSTEP.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Tailor have the capability to
read .pdf files?
Where Adobe doth fall, others will surge...
Stephen Peters
From: vijay@gels.mit.edu (Vijay S. Pande)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Importing NeXT EPS to Mac Photoshop
Date: 19 Feb 1995 19:56:04 GMT
Organization: MIT
Message-ID: <vijay-1902951452310001@18.82.133.88>
References: <3hqjr4$8i3@umigw.miami.edu> <1995Feb15.175630.7160@adobe.com>
In article <1995Feb15.175630.7160@adobe.com>, pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com wrote:
> In article <3hqjr4$8i3@umigw.miami.edu> doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu writes:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am using Mathematica and Diagram on my NeXT to create some EPS files (in
> >color) that I wish to import to Photoshop running on a Power Mac. As I
> >understand it, Photoshop appreciates bitmapped images only, so I need to
> >convert from mt EPS to the appropriate bitmapped image at some reasonable
> >resolution. Anyone have any ideas, or preferrably, any experience going
> >from NeXT EPS --> Mac Photoshop? Ultimately, the images will be
> >incorporated into a QuarkXPress document, if that is of any consequence.
> >
> >Thanks in advance. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >Doug Stewart
> >EDR, Inc.
> >doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
> >(305) 430-1556
>
I've had to bring a lot of ps and eps files from the NeXT to the Mac, and
I've found epsConverter (Artemis software: ArtemisSW@aol.com) invaluable.
It can read just about any ps file and convert it to an Adobe Illustator
ps/eps file. It does more than just a conversion: it allows one to
actually "get inside" the eps file and change things (eg if you make a
plot in Mathematica on the NeXT, you can't modify it; after conversion
w/epsConverter you can). Also (wth Adobe Illustator) is a good solution
to the "how do I view ps files" problem on the Mac.
You can find epsConverter on several archives, eg umich.
Vijay Pande
(I have no affiliation w/ Artemis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 missing Literature.pkg ?
Message-ID: <1995Feb19.153553.2666@lkba.uucp>
Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische)
Organization: LKB Associates, Inc.
References: <3i6e0p$hps@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 15:35:53 GMT
In article <3i6e0p$hps@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> Has NeXT dropped Literature.pkg for 3.3?
Apparently.
I wanted to keep these around so I:
- put the Shakespeare folder into /LocalLibrary/Literature
- put Quotations.app in /LocalApps
- put OxfordQuotations in /LocalLibrary/References
(this may have required the creation of the /LocalLibrary/References folder)
I seem to remember that this broke Webster so I had to create links for
Webster-Dictionary and Webster-Thesaurus in /LocalLibrary/References
pointing back to /NextLibrary/References.
To access Shakespeare I have a Literature.bshlf which contains a Shakespeare
target in /LocalLibrary/Bookshelves that I guess was in
/NextLibrary/Bookshelves but I can't remember.
Anyway, all this still works for us previous version holders. This just
moves it from the NeXT domain to the Local domain. Too bad for new licensees
though, if they really care about Shakespeare and OxfordQuotations, which I
guess most of them wont.
Question: I've assumed that since these were licensed to me in a past
version I'm still able to use them 'legally' after the upgrade. This might
be a bad assumption. Anyone know?
---
Larry Blische lkb@lkba.com, lkba!lkb@uunet.UU.NET
LKB Associates, Inc. NeXTmail Welcome!
3118 Dunglow Road 410 285 2262
Dundalk, Maryland 21222-5304 USA
From: axel@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Axel Seibert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Stopwatch.app - author, please!
Date: 21 Feb 1995 16:26:22 +0100
Organization: a private site in Munich, South Germany
Message-ID: <AXEL.95Feb21162621@tumbolia.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <1995Feb20.122934.414@tanuki.twics.com>
In-reply-to: hugh@tanuki.twics.com's message of 20 Feb 95 12:29:34 JST
>>>>> "hugh" == hugh <hugh@tanuki.twics.com> writes:
You should find the latest releasse of stopwatch on the ftp-sites
(e.g. ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/....)
In the online help I found the following email address:
stopwatch@plevin.com
Hope this helps,
Axel.
--
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seiberta@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (please no NeXTmail here!)
Data is not information is not knowledge is not wisdom.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: darrin@research.canon.oz.au (Darrin Smart)
Subject: Why NewsGrazer crashes
Message-ID: <D4A1us.MFu@research.canon.oz.au>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@research.canon.oz.au
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 02:35:15 GMT
Well I finally made an effort to track down the article that was making
NewsGrazer crash.
The culprit had the same newsgroup listed twice in the Newsgroups: field.
Reproducing the bug was simple; post an article to a test group and cross post
to the same group. Read the article with NewsGrazer and it will crash upon
selecting the group.
You can workaround this bug by turning off the 'Prefetch article titles' and
'sort articles' options in the Preferences panel.
Hopefully someone at NeXT will be able to fix this bug and give us a new
NewsGrazer release (I'd suggest removing duplicate groups when parsing the
NewsGroups line). We would also appreciate a HP/Sparc version of the
application!
--
Darrin Smart, Software Engineer | darrin@research.canon.oz.au
Canon Information Systems Research Australia | Phone +61-2-805-2942
PO Box 313 NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 | Fax +61-2-805-2929
From: 93925730@cityu.edu.hk (David P. FOK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Commercial or Academic?
Date: 21 Feb 1995 17:02:05 GMT
Organization: CityU of HK
Message-ID: <93925730-2202950107080001@slip070.csc.cuhk.hk>
Dear experts,
How can I identify whether a copy of NS is under commercial
licence or from the academic bundle? Does the academic bundle
also come with a registeration card and is upgradable?
Thanks for any suggestion.
-david
-david
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Opener opening .ps and .eps?
In-Reply-To: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca's message of 16 Feb 1995 21:01:55 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Feb19184637@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3i0eg3$l65@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 23:46:37 GMT
You can change which application launches a certain document type using
Workspace Manager's inspector. I noticed that Opener also converts sound
files. I would rather see a separate sound filter program much like how
OmniImage works for images. Ummm. How about it Omni? OmniSound...
Robert La Ferla
HTI
In article <3i0eg3$l65@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam) writes:
Xref: world comp.sys.next.software:18600
Path: world!news.mathworks.com!udel!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.mindlink.net!news.bc.net!vanbc.wimsey.com!unixg.ubc.ca!news
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 16 Feb 1995 21:01:55 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Lines: 14
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca
Hi,
I just installed Opener.app v3.1.3a and it autolaunches to open .ps and
eps files. Is there any way to prevent this. I tried looking in
Opener.table in the app folder but those extensions were not listed there.
The previous version (v3.1.2 I think) left .ps and .eps files alone.
Thanks in advance.
--
..Mike.
From: cooncat@wombat (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mouseX headache: Can't launch Xnext (3.2 black) R5
Date: 20 Feb 1995 00:47:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3i8oro$eja@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi crew,
I'm trying to test mouseX via the new front end Xfe application.
However, all it does is blacken my monitor and then quit, without
executing everything. I installed Xnext in the proper directory and
added it to my path. I have a .xinitrc. I have all the X programs
in the same directory as Xnext. What am I missing?
Here's the console output:
failed to set default font path
'/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/10
0dpi/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
XIO: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server "(null pointer)"
after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or
KillClient.
wait returned: pid = 6951
giving up.
xinit: Connection refused (errno 61): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
wait returned: pid = 6953
xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): no server "X" in PATH
Use the -- option, or make sure that /usr/bin/X11 is in your path and
that "X" is a program or a link to the right type of server
for your display. Possible server names include:
giving up.
xinit: Connection refused (errno 61): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
Any advice would be appreciated. All libraries, etc. should be in their
respective directories. Thanks, please email below!
--
*******************************************************
Jessica L. Mosher
NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Message-ID: <1995Feb20.180811.10434@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <3i1p77$1dvb@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 18:08:11 GMT
In article <3i1p77$1dvb@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
wenzel@w3.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com wrote:
>
>: Did you mean person year? You can't possibly have meant person day. Just
>: getting an app like this through QA and getting documentation revised to
>: reflect the NEXTSTEP environment would be a big job - and that includes no
>: engineering. Am I missing something here?
>
>: Joe Pasqua
>: Adobe Systems Incorporated
>
>And if it takes a person year?
First off, I didn't say it could be done in a person year. I asked the previous
poster if that is what he meant. I make no estimates regarding the scope of
this project except to dispell the notion that it is trivial.
>Wouldn't it be possible, though?
Sure. If you can build the thing for DOS you can certainly build it for
NEXTSTEP.
>The Reader doesn't need to be free on Nextstep, but at least there
>has to be one! Nextstep/Openstep is a growing market, and I don't
>wanna see Adobe dropping the most superior DPS platform :-((
IMHO: Don't tell me, tell a sales or marketing person. Or, tell other app
vendors that you'd pay to see them fill Adobe's void in this area.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated.
From: mgi@gorda.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthias Imhof)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer crashes more often: [tx]rn -> nextrn ?
Date: 20 Feb 1995 16:01:09 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Sender: mgi@gorda (Matthias Imhof)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iaec5$b8t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <D4A1us.MFu@research.canon.oz.au>
it seems that their are more and more newsreaders out there creating faulty messages. especially
cross posting seems to kill newsgrazer.
on the other hand, xrn and trn seem to be very stable. it can not be that hard, to create
a nice application around trn or to transfer xrn from xwindows to nextstep
anyone else out there thinking along the same lines?
matthias
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From: Donald E McCollam <mccollam@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ProAudioSpectrumPlus driver for NS3.3?
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 08:17:58 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950220081408.4611B-100000@snow.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi. In NS3.2, I used the ProAudioSpectrumPlus driver (which creates a
mixer in Preferences and allows playing of audio CD's through external
speakers via CDPlayer.app). Does anyone know if this driver has been
upgraded to NS3.3?
Thanks
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 missing Literature.pkg ?
Message-ID: <D4Dq0C.Mn9@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
References: <1995Feb19.153553.2666@lkba.uucp> <D4D0KA.7yE@rna.nl>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 02:09:48 GMT
In article <D4D0KA.7yE@rna.nl> gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
>Isn't it just that the upgrade does not contain Literature.pkg and that the
>full 3.3 does?
>
>--
>gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
>"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
>Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
>
I just bought a 3.3 for Intel and it does not include the Literature
package. I especially miss the Oxford Quotations.
Steve
--
#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
# Steven M. Boker # "Two's bifurcation #
# boker@virginia.edu # but three's chaotic" #
#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do I PRINT 2-UP from within Edit.App??
Date: 20 Feb 1995 18:40:28 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ianms$guq@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3i85ie$5mj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
pcu@umich.edu writes
> Lones A Smith writes
>
> Use the Format->Page Layout menu to bring up the Page Layout panel.
There is a
> pop-up button there for *-up.
Alternatively, since the file in particular was just text, he could use
the Unix command line "fmt" command to get away from his 40 character
lines. It's an oldie but goodie, and I even have in my .pipedict file
Format B fmt
for quickly reformatting things in Edit.app. It's just too bad that the
NeXT version doesn't support the -n option, so you can set exactly how
many characters you want to strive for per line.
Hope this helps --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Guages & Nice Icon Builder
Date: 20 Feb 1995 19:11:30 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3iaph2$oa7@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3i0hrt$27v@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com>
In article <3i0hrt$27v@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com>
scorley@woodman.advtech.uswest.com (Steve Corley) writes:
> Does anyone out there know where I can retrieve guages that I can use
for
> a simple weather app that will display temperature, windspeed, etc.? You
> know, something similar to the three guage set that one might buy from
> Radio Shack that indicates barometric pressure, temperature, wind speed.
>
> I'm also looking at creating something similar to Monitor.app that has a
> nice presentation of the temp (or other stuff) that will display
semi-real
> time info in the dock (similar to Monitor.app). Icon Builder doesn't cut
> it for what I'm after, does anyone know of another high resolution icon
> builder, or any other approach for building a nice icon? I'd like to be
> able to display a thermometer, weather vane, other stuff in the dock
icon.
>
> Thanks
IconMaker by BlueSky Software is an excellent app. Let me know if you'd
like more info.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 21 Feb 1995 16:07:48 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3id34k$h5m@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
References: <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com>
In article <1995Feb14.172942.29433@adobe.com> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
> In article <3ho9lq$q1b@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
> aebersol@titan.admin.gettysburg.edu (Dennis R. Aebersold) writes:
> >
> >Adobe provides their reader for most platforms, free. Any chance we'll
> >see one for NeXT?
> > -dennis
>
> As far as I know, we currently have no plans to produce a reader for
NEXTSTEP.
>
Well, I'm working on such a beast.
It's not yet ready for distribution. Currently, it displays PDF
files similar to Preview.app. Main current problem is to do
some reasonable font substitution for non existing fonts.
When that's done, I'll have a look on the navigation/annotation part.
However, it will still take some weeks of work ...
Detlev
--
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Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: Geoff Hopson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Frame V4 ???
Date: 20 Feb 1995 19:22:09 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
Message-ID: <3iaq51$a8u@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Apologies if this is a FAQ
Will there be a V4 version of FrameMaker on NS?
MIFfed of BT!
---
____________________________________________________________________
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Intelligence Software Systems | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah
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From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HP Scanjet IIcx & NS 3.3 good/bad/ugly?
Date: 21 Feb 1995 14:10:22 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3ics8e$16m@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
We're thinking about adding a HP Scanjet IIcx to our NeXTStation
color. The software that we are considering is Scanomatic.
Is anyone else using either/or of the above?
I so, please drop me a line with any good/bad points that
you've got.
Thanks,
Shane
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NeXTMail: shane@galadriel.ecaetc.ohio-state.edu
From: pcu@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do I PRINT 2-UP from within Edit.App??
Date: 19 Feb 1995 19:18:38 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i85ie$5mj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3i5a0n$rbm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Lones A Smith writes
Use the Format->Page Layout menu to bring up the Page Layout panel. There is a
pop-up button there for *-up.
--
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
Newt-thought is right-thought. Go Newt!
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: ANNOUNCE: EggTimer v0.3 available
Date: 20 Feb 1995 06:58:32 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3i9eio$amt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Hello:
I have uploaded a new and improved version of EggTimer (MAB, Moto&Intel)
to:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions/E
ggTimer.0.3.NI.b.tar.gz
It should move to:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspa
ce/EggTimer.0.3.NI.b.tar.gz
I have also uploaded an EggTimer README file to:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions/E
ggTimer.0.3.README
It should also move to:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspa
ce/EggTimer.0.3.README
---
Here is the README file:
EggTimer.app
(v 0.3)
by
Wassim M. Jabi
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
EggTimer.app is a simple reminder application that brings up an attention
panel and (optionally) plays a sound at a user-definable interval.
Between reminders, a Progress Pie shows you how much time remains. You
can type any message you want in the Reminder panel and it will be
remembered the next time you start EggTimer.app. It is recommended that
you hide the application between reminders.
To set the interval, you can either type the number in the provided field
or use the slider until the desired amount of time appears (in minutes).
Please note that you can use real numbers with decimal points and numbers
less than one minute. The text field does NOT understand time as in
02:30. The slider outputs whole integers that range between 0 and 120
minutes.
Setting the interval to 0 (zero) disables the reminder .
The reminder will keep repeating until the interval is set to 0 and the
"OK" button is hit or until the application quits.
To reset the timer before the next reminder is due, activate the
application and reset the value in the panel.
For now, you cannot choose what sound it plays to remind you.
Progress Pie thanks to MiscKit by D. Yacktman and others.
---
New Features in 0.3:
Progress Pie.
Time left in minutes. (Can be used as a StopWatch)
Remembers Message and Delay (Uses Defaults Database).
Hides Application when requested, not automatically.
More robust :-)
---
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 missing Literature.pkg ?
Date: 21 Feb 1995 19:39:57 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3idfid$n5e@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3i6e0p$hps@news.ycc.yale.edu>
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> I am testing a NEXTSTEP 3.3 system, and have noticed it is
> missing Literature.pkg.
...
> Has NeXT dropped Literature.pkg for 3.3?
It seems that Shakespeare and the Oxford Quotations (and thus
Quotations.app) have disappeared on both the NS/m68k and NS/intel
upgrade disks for NS-3.3.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Date: 20 Feb 1995 06:54:26 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3i9eb2$pg0@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995Feb19.153505.616@muscat.pr.net.ch>
ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch (E. Baranzini) writes:
> jbf@mitre.org (James B. Frazer) writes:
> > Absolutely! The most trivial app is becoming a major pain to
> > download for those of us who have no direct NeXT access.
>
> I second the idea to limit to, say, no more than 2 MB __and__
> split the architectures. For us with relatively slow and billable
> links (9.6 - 19.2 bps) it would then be possible to get the new
> stuff. I have __not__ get the MiscKit, I have __not__ get Opener
> and so on (sorry for the very good work, but :-(( ... ).
For the specific case of Opener, people can connect via anonymous
ftp to eclipse.its.rpi.edu (currently 128.113.24.33), and check
directory NeXT/Opener_F for the files:
-r--r--r-- 1 ftpmaint 2588 Feb 17 22:39 00_README
-r--r--r-- 1 ftpmaint 899256 Feb 15 21:31 Opener-3.2-H.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 1 ftpmaint 809104 Feb 15 21:31 Opener-3.2-I.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 1 ftpmaint 795534 Feb 15 21:32 Opener-3.2-N.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 1 ftpmaint 859967 Feb 15 21:33 Opener-3.2-S.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 1 ftpmaint 1934640 Feb 15 21:30 Opener-3.2_NIHS.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 1 ftpmaint 1113645 Feb 17 22:19 Opener_utils-3.2_src.tar.gz
Note that in the case of the utils package, I *only* include the
source. It does not include any of the binaries (if you want the
binaries for the utilities, you can either compile them from the
source, or you can get them out of the appropriate Opener.app file).
Also note that you have to know what to do with tar.gz files
(these are gnutar'ed, for what it's worth). Since these are
not the official distributions, don't bug Denise Howard about
them. Don't bug me about them either, I'm just putting them
here for the benefit of those who can't afford to download a
3meg file. The OO_README file is a quickly reworked version
of Denise's readme file, and probably isn't as helpful as it
might be.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:22:40 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950220152034.4851S-100000@avocado>
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp>
Richard,
OmniWeb 0.9.3 doesn't have a Preferences panel entry for the newshost.
What you'll have to do is:
dwrite OmniWeb NewsHost whatever.whatever.whatever
Hussain
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab
NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis
hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
On 18 Feb 1995 richard@runner.uucp wrote:
> How do I set up preferences in OmniWeb
> to tell OmniWeb to look at the local host
> for usenet news?
>
> --
> Richard
> richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
> (ok to send NeXT Mail)
>
>
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MailingLabel printing SW for NeXT?
Date: 19 Feb 1995 19:58:44 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3i8pg4$au9@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <3htd1p$n8u@crcnis3.unl.edu>
I have found that SBook by Sarrus Software does a fine job of printing
Mailing Labels. Plus it already has formats for a large variety of Avery
and 3M Label Sheets built in.
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail @pgate.boeing.com:mdefino@rilsd01
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
From: vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu (Rick Vazquez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: .gz help`
Date: 17 Feb 1995 13:02:29 -0800
Organization: UCLA Physics Department
Message-ID: <3i32t5$2to@einstein.physics.ucla.edu>
When I download files form cs.orst.edu in XNeXT dir, I uncompress them but nothing but a text file appears?? Do I have this file a run is through CUBX, can some one help??
Vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu
Rick
From: ix@ix.netcom.com (ix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Importing NeXT EPS to Mac Photoshop
Date: 21 Feb 1995 05:20:28 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ibt6s$804@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
References: <3hqjr4$8i3@umigw.miami.edu>
In <3hqjr4$8i3@umigw.miami.edu> doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I am using Mathematica and Diagram on my NeXT to create some EPS files
(in
>color) that I wish to import to Photoshop running on a Power Mac. As I
>understand it, Photoshop appreciates bitmapped images only, so I need
to
>convert from mt EPS to the appropriate bitmapped image at some
reasonable
>resolution. Anyone have any ideas, or preferrably, any experience going
>from NeXT EPS --> Mac Photoshop? Ultimately, the images will be
>incorporated into a QuarkXPress document, if that is of any
consequence.
>
>Thanks in advance. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>Doug Stewart
>EDR, Inc.
>doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
>(305) 430-1556
>
It's easy... Use Photoshop's "open as" "EPS". Worked for me.
-ix
From: Norbert Heger <bertl@ecs.co.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 13:53:55 GMT
Organization: EUnet EDV DienstleistungsgesmbH, Wien
Message-ID: <950222145355.219AAAAE.bertl@black13>
References: <950208200619.3554AAC7K.kevin@ksmith>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (BlackThunder)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Originator: bertl@servus
ksmith@telesource.com wrote:
> ... I get the message: I/O error. PresentationBuilder can't open file
> /TeleSource/Archives/Radisson/Spreadsheets.imp/PresentationWindow3.pb
> because of a file system error: 'No such file or directory.'
> Check the file's read permission and ownership.
>
> ... Improv just goes into spinning cursor mode when I try to open the
> file again.
Improv.app tries to launch the PresentationBuilder.app because the
Model.imp (within the .imp wrapper) contains a link to a .pb file.
In your case this file seems to be corrupted, or it doesn't even
exist any more due to some mysterious circumstances. The
PresentationBuilder.app quits automatically if it fails to open
the requested file, but Improv.app still waits for the
PresentationBuilder.app to be launched. And it waits, and waits,
and waits ...
So try this workaround: Rename the 'PresentationBuilder.app' into
something else like 'SomeOther.app' or just move it away from your
Apps or LocalApps Folder so that Improv.app cannot launch it
automatically any longer. Now you can open your .imp file and remove
the PresentationWindow3 from the Model Browser. Save the file and
restore the PresentationBuilder.app (rename it or move it back to
your Apps Folder). Now you should be able to open your file again
without any problems.
____________________________________________________________________
Norbert Heger, Vienna - Austria - Europe
bertl@ecs.co.at (NeXTmail preferred)
From: gayed@psych.ucla.edu (Jim Gayed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXSTEP FOR DEC ALPHAS
Date: 22 Feb 1995 05:35:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <3ieiec$l5o@saba.info.ucla.edu>
I have heard that NEXTSTEP was being ported to the dec alpha, is this true? And if so, when can I
expect news of a release date?
Thanks in advance for any news.
Jim M. Gayed
University of California, Los Angeles
Psychology Department, Interdepartmental Neuroscience
Vision Research Group, gayed@psych.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Solitaire (Klondike)?
Message-ID: <D4Doq3.7Iy@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 01:42:03 GMT
Is there a Klondike game for Intel NS that does not require a mainframe
to play? The nicest looking one (and it is very pretty) is exhausting to
play as one has to really drag those cards around. Every platform has a
nice Solitaire. Where is one for the NeXT?! Thank's...Philip
PS: Mission Critical Solitaire is fast enough but has unattractive cards (in
my opinion). But something nice that was as fast as it would be fine.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Why NewsGrazer crashes
Message-ID: <1995Feb21.181201.3012@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <D4A1us.MFu@research.canon.oz.au>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 18:12:01 GMT
In article <D4A1us.MFu@research.canon.oz.au> darrin@research.canon.oz.au
(Darrin Smart) writes:
> Well I finally made an effort to track down the article that was
> making NewsGrazer crash.
>
> The culprit had the same newsgroup listed twice in the Newsgroups:
> field.
>
...munch...
>
> Hopefully someone at NeXT will be able to fix this bug and give us
> a new NewsGrazer release (I'd suggest removing duplicate groups
> when parsing the NewsGroups line). We would also appreciate a
> HP/Sparc version of the application!
>
Sorry to say this, but NG isn't supported by NeXT for a rather long time.
And I fear your request will fall on deaf ears. My private impression is
that they would give an arm and a leg if it finally would pass away (like
so many added value from erarly days).
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Message-ID: <1995Feb22.015907.3581@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <3id2uu$idi@shelob.afs.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 01:59:07 GMT
In article <3id2uu$idi@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
>pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes
>> wenzel@w3.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>> >The Reader doesn't need to be free on Nextstep, but at least there
>> >has to be one! Nextstep/Openstep is a growing market, and I don't
>> >wanna see Adobe dropping the most superior DPS platform :-((
>>
>> IMHO: Don't tell me, tell a sales or marketing person. Or, tell other
>> app vendors that you'd pay to see them fill Adobe's void in this area.
>
>This isn't quite fair, Joe. Adobe has the definitive implementation of
>an Acrobat Reader engine. Who would want to reinvent that wheel? On such
>a low-volume platform? IMHO, this would be as ill-considered as trying to
>roll your own PostScript interpreter. You're just setting yourself up for
>years of being at least a few months behind the state of the art, since
>you're not in a position to set the agenda as new features get added.
>
>OTOH, if Adobe is willing to license their engine to a NEXTSTEP vendor
>who will wrap a NEXTSTEP face around it, that's not a bad idea.
As in all discussions of marketing or non-technical planning, I do not speak
for Adobe. Having said that...
I agree. In fact, that's what I had in mind. However, in my personal opinion, I
don't think that Adobe will build and support such an engine unless some third
party comes along and makes a convincing case for it.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Date: 21 Feb 1995 19:05:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3iddie$8fo@cs.ubc.ca>
References: <D4Arow.nC@madge1.demon.co.uk>
In article <D4Arow.nC@madge1.demon.co.uk> mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk
(Mike Moreton) writes:
> kevins@bmd.com wrote:
>
> : any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc.
>2) From the SoftPC FSA configuration pannel - NEXTSTEP makes
>the DOS partition look like a UNIX filesystem, so you can mount
>it as a "network drive" just like any other part of a UNIX
>filesystem. Slower, but much safer.
That's basically how I did it, but you don't need to use up your FSA
slot in Preferences; you can mount as many "FSA" drives as you like from
your AUTOEXEC.BAT file.
Put something like the following line in your SoftPC CONFIG.SYS file
(after the other \insignia drivers are loaded):
c:\insignia\net use d: /mounts/croehrig/quantum-dos
This assumes your DOS partition is mounted on /mounts /quantum-dos. I
do this from /etc/rc.local with:
# mount DOS partitions for croehrig
(echo dosfs) >/dev/console
(cd /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs; \
./DOS.util -m sd0 /mounts/croehrig/seagate_dos fixed writable; \
./DOS.util -m sd1 /mounts/croehrig/quantum_dos fixed writable \
) >/dev/console 2>&1
I also set permissions for the /mounts/croehrig directory so that only I
have access to my DOS partitions:
drwx------ 2 croehrig 1024 Feb 19 17:09 /mounts/croehrig/
Works like a charm and lets you use your DOS disk from both SoftPC and
native DOS, so you only need a minimal SoftPC harddisk file. In
principle you should be able to use both DOS and Windows from your DOS
drive as well and only have a REALLY minimal SoftPC harddisk file (just
AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS), but the changes to WIN.INI and SYSTEM.INI to
switch between SoftPC and native DOS are nightmarish. But there are
utilities in the INSIGNIA directory to do just that, if you want to hack
with them.
SoftPC is an interesting piece of work. I've actually managed to get
Win/SoftPC to run in 800x600 mode FULL SCREEN by using the 8514 video
driver that comes with Windows instead of the SoftPC video driver.
Sheesh.
Now if only I could access my MQX-32M MIDI card from within SoftPC...
--
Chris Roehrig (croehrig@cs.ubc.ca)
Dept. of Computer Science, University of British Columbia, Canada
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 21 Feb 1995 16:04:46 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3id2uu$idi@shelob.afs.com>
References: <1995Feb20.180811.10434@adobe.com>
pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes
> wenzel@w3.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> >The Reader doesn't need to be free on Nextstep, but at least there
> >has to be one! Nextstep/Openstep is a growing market, and I don't
> >wanna see Adobe dropping the most superior DPS platform :-((
>
> IMHO: Don't tell me, tell a sales or marketing person. Or, tell other
> app vendors that you'd pay to see them fill Adobe's void in this area.
This isn't quite fair, Joe. Adobe has the definitive implementation of
an Acrobat Reader engine. Who would want to reinvent that wheel? On such
a low-volume platform? IMHO, this would be as ill-considered as trying to
roll your own PostScript interpreter. You're just setting yourself up for
years of being at least a few months behind the state of the art, since
you're not in a position to set the agenda as new features get added.
OTOH, if Adobe is willing to license their engine to a NEXTSTEP vendor
who will wrap a NEXTSTEP face around it, that's not a bad idea.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to print odd and even ...
Date: 22 Feb 1995 04:45:13 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Message-ID: <3iefgp$sl9@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
How to print the odd and even pages?
Mark
From: jjb@pwilly.isye.gatech.edu (John Bartholdi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTex 2.09e
Date: 21 Feb 1995 20:33:45 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3idin9$mu9@mordred.gatech.edu>
Hello,
Can anyone tell me whether the new version of NeXTSTEP also
includes upgrades to LaTeX? Or do I have to manage this
on my own?
Thanks,
John
--
--------------------------------------------
John J. Bartholdi, III
School of Industrial & Systems Engineering
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, Georgia 30332
john.bartholdi@isye.gatech.edu
From: patrickg@feynman.success.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: Converting PS to Tiff, or other raster image--HOW??
Date: 22 Feb 95 22:07:41
Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Charlotte, NC - info@char.vnet.net
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Here's the deal:
I need to convert PosctScript images to a TIFF or other raster format, so that I can convert them for a particular use. The standard Next print panel allows me to save things as a device independent PS file.
How do I convert this file? Or is there some other way to do it?
I need this to be able to convert the raster image into a different, proprietary image format.
Thanks, Patrick Giagnocavo
Lancaster, PA 717-390-4370
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Date: 20 Feb 1995 23:28:29 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ib8it$nq1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995Feb20.000309.5018@dagobah.fdn.fr>
yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle) writes:
> the following C-shell script does the job (rather inelegantly I
> must admit... no cheking performed => please improve !):
The first problem is that you're checking for:
> foreach ARCH (m68k i386 hppa sparc)
Intel binaries can be either i386 or i486 architectures. Different
files in a single app-wrapper might differ in whether the intel part
is 386 or 486.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options = smart packages
Message-ID: <D4DGIn.10A@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 22:44:45 GMT
Well lets throw in my ideas.
IMHO the best way would be to create some smart packages.
Like:
Opener.3.2.base.pkg
Opener.3.2.N.pkg
Opener.3.2.I.pkg
Opener.3.2.H.pkg
Opener.3.2.S.pkg
Opener.3.2.P.pkg (??..please :-)
Now the package script should be smart enough to unpack the base package
and extend it by adding the additional binary files.
The binary packages would only store the real binaries.
Using the lipo -create stuff should make it quite simple to write a script
(but I never digged inside the Installer scripts so I am not really sure
how to implement that...maybe the guy who wrote the PackageBuilder knows)
Then you get all the exec. packages you need and install them inside the
same dir.
I think if that would "just work" it would be my preferred way of using
the stuff.
One importent thing would be to place a .info file inside the empty app
wrapper and test if the binarey one wants to install is the same version
of the application. This would keep you from bug-gyfying some current
apps.
Using a simple pkg.info would also make it quite simple to write more
helpful workspace app inspectors....but any other "versioning" file would
do the same.
Aloha
Tomi
--
_________________________________________________________
(tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel
Neptunstr. 9
NeXTMail welcome D - 90522 Oberasbach
Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options = smart packages
Message-ID: <D4DGK7.113@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Keywords: Installer, MAB, FAT
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 22:45:42 GMT
In article <D49ICq.1rp@shinto.nbg.sub.org> tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas
Engel) writes:
> Well lets throw in my ideas.
>
> IMHO the best way would be to create some smart packages.
>
> Like:
>
> Opener.3.2.base.pkg
> Opener.3.2.N.pkg
> Opener.3.2.I.pkg
> Opener.3.2.H.pkg
> Opener.3.2.S.pkg
> Opener.3.2.P.pkg (??..please :-)
>
Well just to back that up. I tries that split on my biggest app. Here is
what comes out:
BeakerBoy.0.31.NIHS.tar.gz 0.915 MB
BeakerBoy.0.31.base.tar.gz 0.214 MB
BeakerBoy.0.31.N.tar.gz 0.172 MB
BeakerBoy.0.31.I.tar.gz 0.170 MB
BeakerBoy.0.31.H.tar.gz 0.190 MB (?)
BeakerBoy.0.31.S.tar.gz 0.190 MB (?)
= 0.936 MB
I couldn't strip to the H and S packages..havn't installed qlipe yet. I
think in really the sizes might be even smaller.
So what is the bottom line. Splitting like that won't cause too much
overhead. making it a package will enlarge that because we have no gzip
compression there..but anyway.
Now if we have some app that builds those packages I think it is a win for
both sides. Developers don't have to work hard to create to "splits", ftp
admins won't waste additonal disc space or cpu time and the user can
download only the things he needs...and if he wants it all...he won't have
any overhead too.
If we all stick to one naming schema it should be quite obviouse to the
users that they need the "base" package and the "arch" packages they want
to support.
Aloha
Tomi
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From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame V4 ???
Date: 21 Feb 1995 23:52:50 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3iduci$54h@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3iaq51$a8u@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
In article <3iaq51$a8u@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Geoff Hopson writes:
> Apologies if this is a FAQ
>
> Will there be a V4 version of FrameMaker on NS?
>
> MIFfed of BT!
> ---
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Geoff Hopson | e-mail: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk
> Intelligence Software Systems | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah
> B67 / Room G11 | * BT NeXTSTEP Users Group *
> Telephone (01473) 644380 | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah/nextstep
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> "When you're in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut!" (anon)
Representatives from Frame Technologies met with OpenSource two weeks.
When we asked this same question, there response was that no, FrameMaker
4.0 will never be available for NS. FrameMaker 5.0 (due out by year's
end), however, will be :-)
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gif or jpeg manipulator?
Date: 22 Feb 1995 03:54:00 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iecgo$21t@news.iastate.edu>
Are there any (non converting) gif or jpeg editing programs out there that
anyone knows of?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: What about a newsgroup for Nextstep people icons?
Message-ID: <D4CIuu.HD@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 10:37:42 GMT
Well, you all know that Mail.app, Newsgrazer.app and Alexandra.app
(Version 0.8 not available yet) shows you the writers' picture.
My surgestion: Distribute these pictures worldwide via Usenet!!!
There could be a newsgroup comp.sys.next.people or something like
that. One could post his picture uuencoded, and others could get it!
Following software could do the thing.
- Sender
A program to uuencode the picture and then post it to
comp.sys.next.people.
- Reciever
A program that gets called via crontab. Opens a nntp server (or
flatfile) gets the new news in comp.sys.next.people.
Uudecodes that stuff, gets the e-mail adress from the From: field.
Then it converts the image (optional) into grayscale or lower
resolution. And saves it in some dictionary.
Of course there should be features for:
1) Quota control
2) Expire pictures (remove pictures older than x days)
3) Do not get pictures from certain domains or authors
4) Get only pictures from certain domains or authors
It's not a long,hard job to write these programms. It can be done
fast.
I think that would be cool!! Usenet would be much more personal...
A global (NeXTSTEP-only) village!!!
What do you think?
How to set up that newsgroup?
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From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame V4 ???
Date: 22 Feb 1995 17:09:52 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3ifr50$35o4@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <MSANDER.95Feb21224422@bcarh85b.bnr.ca>
In article <MSANDER.95Feb21224422@bcarh85b.bnr.ca> msander@bcarh85b.bnr.ca
(Michael Sanderson) writes:
> In article <3iduci$54h@potogold.rmii.com> dan@opensource.com (Daniel J.
Gamble) writes:
> >Representatives from Frame Technologies met with OpenSource two weeks.
> >When we asked this same question, there response was that no, FrameMaker
> >4.0 will never be available for NS. FrameMaker 5.0 (due out by year's
> > end), however, will be :-)
>
> Now you're teasing! Why the smiley? Is there no such beast as Frame
> 5.0? Or was a similar promise made about Frame 4.0 last year?
>
I think the smiley means that Mike is happy that Frame 5 will be available for
NS. So am I.
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXfax and ppp2.2: How?
Date: 22 Feb 1995 17:25:33 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ifs2d$3dv@moon.earthlink.net>
References: <3icd5g$ap2@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
bauer@kepler.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Bauer Sebastian) wrote:
>By the way, is there a way to make ppp2.2 doing a dial-on-demand?
>Thanks for any help,
>Sebastian
>--
>Sebastian Bauer <bauer@lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de>
Assuming you are using the ppp2.2 available from ftp.duq.edu
The following lines are from my notes and may help you, though.
the installation instructions and man8 pages are more thorough.
Create a script for the "chat" program (which is included) so that the link
can be established automatically. Example scripts are in the examples
directory.
Add the following parameters to the "/etc/ppp/options" file so that "pppd"
will run the chat program.
a. connect "chat -v -f /etc/ppp/pppup"
--"connect" is a keyword for pppd
--"pppup" is the "chat" script
Add "ip_up" to pppd parameters and make a UNIX script of the same name.
This will be called when the link is established. The "ip_up" example script
"ip_up.example" will:
a. Setup nmserver for -HXHost sessions
b. Start PopOver.app --A program to retrieve E-mail from a POP3
server
c. Send E-mail which was put in the mail que while the ppp link was
down.
Add "ip_down" to pppd parameters and make a UNIX script of the same
name. This will be called when the link is terminated. The "ip_down"
example script "ip_down.example" will:
a. Terminate PopOver.app
Compile pppkill program located in /ppp/examples. This program will get
the pid of "pppd" and use it to kill "pppd".
If you are using a POP3 server to accept your E-mail you will want to set
your mail program to show your POP3 address as the "Reply-To" point. In
Mail 3.3 this can be found under Preferences in the Compose Inspector.
Good Luck,
Felipe A. Rodriguez
far@earthlink.net
From: msander@bcarh85b.bnr.ca (Michael Sanderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame V4 ???
Date: 22 Feb 1995 03:44:22 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Message-ID: <MSANDER.95Feb21224422@bcarh85b.bnr.ca>
References: <3iaq51$a8u@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> <3iduci$54h@potogold.rmii.com>
In-reply-to: dan@opensource.com's message of 21 Feb 1995 23:52:50 GMT
In article <3iduci$54h@potogold.rmii.com> dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) writes:
>Representatives from Frame Technologies met with OpenSource two weeks.
>When we asked this same question, there response was that no, FrameMaker
>4.0 will never be available for NS. FrameMaker 5.0 (due out by year's
> end), however, will be :-)
Now you're teasing! Why the smiley? Is there no such beast as Frame
5.0? Or was a similar promise made about Frame 4.0 last year?
--
Michael Sanderson msander@bnr.ca
ISDN Data Services (613) 765-3715
Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Ottawa, Canada
"These opinions are mine ... which is good 'cause no one else wants 'em"
From: ivanov@iren.jinr.dubna.su (Alexander P. Ivanov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: what's in Academic Bundle ??
Date: 23 Feb 1995 15:59:23 GMT
Organization: JINR
Message-ID: <3iibcr$ge5@cv.jinr.dubna.su>
References: <3ifu7h$76s@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Alistair Blachford (alistair@bcu.ubc.ca) wrote:
: I tried NeXTAnswers by phone, twice, to get info on the Academic
: Bundle, to see what it contains (user only?). No faxes for 2 days either
: time. So onto the Web to find that the Academic Bundle is described neither
: under NeXTStep Products, nor in the NeXTAnswers doc. The latter says little
: else than to order it thru the campus bookstore. Great. I've got the price
: from them, but they don't know what it contains either. Would someone please
: tell me WHAT'S IN THE BUNDLE?
: Thanks!
: Alistair
NS 3.2 Academic Bundle consists of some (unnecessary) books and 2 CD with:
NS3.2 itself, developer tools (Project builder,Interface Builder etc.
with gcc, C++ and Objective C compilers and libraries ), a number of
packages (documentation on OS and Developers tools,TEX package,
Demo programs and sources,literature{Digital Webster,Shakespears plays...}).
There is also 3-rd CD with, as I remember, different applications (demo
versions as they wrote), but I didn't see what at this disk really.
From: alistair@bcu.ubc.ca (Alistair Blachford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: what's in the Academic Bundle ??
Date: 22 Feb 1995 18:00:25 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3ifu3p$76g@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
I tried NeXTAnswers by phone, twice, to get info on the Academic
Bundle, to see what it contains (user only?). No faxes for 2 days either
time. So onto the Web to find that the Academic Bundle is described neither
under NeXTStep Products, nor in the NeXTAnswers doc. The latter says little
else than to order it thru the campus bookstore. Great. I've got the price
from them, but they don't know what it contains either. Would someone please
tell me WHAT'S IN THE BUNDLE?
Thanks!
Alistair
From: alistair@bcu.ubc.ca (Alistair Blachford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: what's in Academic Bundle ??
Date: 22 Feb 1995 18:02:25 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3ifu7h$76s@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
I tried NeXTAnswers by phone, twice, to get info on the Academic
Bundle, to see what it contains (user only?). No faxes for 2 days either
time. So onto the Web to find that the Academic Bundle is described neither
under NeXTStep Products, nor in the NeXTAnswers doc. The latter says little
else than to order it thru the campus bookstore. Great. I've got the price
from them, but they don't know what it contains either. Would someone please
tell me WHAT'S IN THE BUNDLE?
Thanks!
Alistair
From: reality@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: .snap images
Date: 21 Feb 1995 21:14:07 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3idl2v$nej@network.ucsd.edu>
Can anybody suggest a NeXT program for displaying .snap images?
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From: chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christian Musinszki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: sounds from windows on NeXT
Date: 23 Feb 1995 14:56:21 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3ii7ml$a1e@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hello,
i am sitting at a NeXT-computer and try to play a .wav soundfile from
MS-windows, but it
does not work with any of my soundTools.
Is there any tool that does this ? (Perhaps a converter .wav 2 .snd)
I have an open ear for any answers because until now i have not heared
anything from this .wav-file. Hope this file is not only a
digital-zero-recording (comes from a experimental-jazz-W3-server)
Thank you in advance
--
Chris Musinszki Tel. 06131/17 20 22
Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik
und Dokumentation (Universitaetskliniken Mainz)
55101 Mainz, Germany
(email:chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de)
From: csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: elm vs pine (was: MIME mail for NeXT??)
Date: 23 Feb 1995 11:37:34 GMT
Organization: CSEG, University of York, UK.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ihs1u$j7j@castle.york.ac.uk>
References: <3h3vgg$2ca@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <3h5nm4$hh7@news.u.washington.edu>
In article <3h5nm4$hh7@news.u.washington.edu> William Barker (wrb@biostr.washington.edu) wrote:
>In article <3h3vgg$2ca@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd
>Takken) writes:
>> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950205161839.24083N-100000@pear> GH Chinoy
>> <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu> writes:
>>
>> > Why don't you get Pine? Although it has no graphical front-end
>> > specifically for NeXT, it's unix interface is a breeze. It even
>> > compiles w/o any significant hassles.
>> > It's at:
>> >
>> > ftp.cac.washington.edu in /pine
>> > Pine 3.91's the latest version.
>>
>> The reason I use elm is that its mailbox structure is compatible with
>> NextMail. Does pine use the same mailbox structure as NextMail?
Well, I'm not convinced about that having been burned in the
transition between NeXTmail and elm before.
The mbox file in the NeXTmail mailbox is the same format as the elm
folders, unless you've received any nextmail. At which point NeXTmail
saves the body of the nextmail message out, adds a few strange headers
and does not fix headers like content-length and lines to match with
the new mail size.
Result: Elm dies horribly when reading the folder.
As a result of this and several other annoying bugs in NeXTmail, I now
use elm exclusively.
This is under 3.0 BTW.
--
Colin Perkins
Computer Systems Engineering Group, Email: csp@ohm.york.ac.uk
Department of Electronics, Phone: (+44) 1904 432379
University of York, York, UK. WWW: http://asegweb.ohm.york.ac.uk/csp/
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options - Suggestions
Date: 23 Feb 1995 03:13:44 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iguh8$1mn@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <1995Feb19.153505.616@muscat.pr.net.ch>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <1995Feb19.153505.616@muscat.pr.net.ch>
ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch (E. Baranzini) writes:
}~ In article <jbf-1802950221170001@mbppp2.mitre.org> jbf@mitre.org
(James B.
}~ Frazer) writes:
}~ > Absolutely! The most trivial app is becoming a major pain to
}~ > download for those of us who have no direct NeXT access. (I
}~ > download ond post from a Mac, by necessity.) If I hadn't been
}~ > able to persuade the local guru to provide such a file splitter,
}~ > I would be unable to usefully access the archives except via a
}~ > 9600 bps link from a NeXT at home. The prospect of downloading a
}~ > 2-3 MByte file over such a link is so grim that I just
}~ [...]
}~ > The archives could then limit new postings to, say, 1 MB in
}~ > length. The developers would grumble but soon adapt. (I have
}~ > to admit I'll download a critical app like Opener, regardless
}~ > of what it takes. But my clip level is such that I just ignore
}~ > Don's misckit updates for 6 to 12 months. I doubt this was what
}~ > his developers had in mind.) While I'm Barney
}~
}~ I second the idea to limit to, say, no more than 2 MB __and__
}~ split the architectures. For us with relatively slow and billable
}~ links (9.6 - 19.2 bps) it would then be possible to get the new
}~ stuff. I have __not__ get the MiscKit, I have __not__ get Opener
}~ and so on (sorry for the very good work,
}~ but :-(( ... ).
}~
}~ You should also think that, for instance, in Switzerland a normal
}~ voice phone line will last for an hour and then it will be cut
}~ automatically by the (public) phone company. As a consequence, I
}~ am able to download a maximum of 4-5 MB, if the link is very good.
}~ A bigger package is unreachable for me.
}~
}~ You can say "go with ISDN or other faster link": of course, they
}~ exist, but they are also very very expensive ...
There are several alternatives coming out in this thread, and one
customary alternative that hasn't been mentioned yet.
First the alternative not mentioned. Most of the comp.sources.*
archives CHUNK all submissions down to between 64k and 256k depending
on site, per submission, keeping the chunks (part01...partNN) in a
subdirectory. This allows people with limited time and slow links
to still obtain the content, though perhaps over a few days. So long
as all portions are fetched, it's a reasonably simple matter (if
binary rather than individual .shar files) to cat them together,
even in a piped shell command, to reconstitute the original.
Use of the Uni-Muenchen naming standard is becoming all the more
important, as we're up to 4, and two more announced architectures. -- "W"
seems the obvious Win95/WinNT OpenStep key-letter, with "O" as generic
OpenStep. Unless Mickeysoft changes their standards, anything that is
Win-OpenStep compatible MUST run on both 95 and NT.
Keying on the comp.sources.* archive subdirectory usages, it would
seem that the best overall solution would be a combination of the above.
Matching software, whether source or binary should be collected into a
single directory. If a separate binaries and sources hierarchy is also
desired, use soft-links to build the *.s.* vs *.b.* directories.
Thus we end up with a max of...
pub/software/next/<category>/
SomePackage.htmld -> SomePackage
SomePackage/
index.html
SomePackage.README.html -> index.html
SomePackage.README
SomePackage.README.rtfd.tar.gz
SomePackage.README.ps.gz
SomePackage.NIHSW.bn.tar.gz
SomePackage.N.b.tar.gz.01
SomePackage.N.b.tar.gz.02
SomePackage.I.b.tar.gz.01
SomePackage.I.b.tar.gz.02
SomePackage.H.b.tar.gz.01
SomePackage.H.b.tar.gz.02
SomePackage.S.b.tar.gz.01
SomePackage.S.b.tar.gz.02
SomePackage.W.b.tar.gz.01
SomePackage.W.b.tar.gz.02
SomePackage.W.b.tar.gz.03
SomePackage. NIHSW.n.tar.gz.01
SomePackage. NIHSW.n.tar.gz.02
SomePackage. NIHSW.n.tar.gz.03
SomePackage.NIHSW.s.tar.gz.01
SomePackage.NIHSW.s.tar.gz.02
SomePackage.NIHSW.s.tar.gz.03
SomePackage.NIHSW.s.tar.gz.04
SomePackage.NIHSW.s.tar.gz.05
Hence we have the following advantages and disadvantages...
1. A quickie README that can be fetched with
a browser or, i.e., NcFTP piped to more
2. Slightly more space for the chunked
single architecture packages.
3. An OPTIONAL all-architectures binary
package for heavy duty users - this COULD
be built from the individual architectures
sure-to-get ALL components with a mere mget *
in the directory. No reason to chunk the BIG
one if the little ones are available.
4. Managable chunks for low-end users, whether
the source or one or more architecture binaries
are desired.
The .html README could EASILY be built via a
shell script with nothing beyond sh, sed, awk.
which gives "push-button selection" and exposits
the content of each archive because of name.
DISADVANTAGES
The site needs more organization than "incoming"
directories generally get. The disk space to carry
multiple copies of nibs and other shared resources is
greater with individual architecture archives as the
items need be duplicated across archives UNLESS the
'.n.' NIBs and Help archives, etc are distributed
separately.
This method doesn't allow for multi-lingual shredding
by language for internationalized apps.
Bruce
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: compression.bundle
Date: 23 Feb 1995 04:01:27 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ih1an$1q5@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <MAGNUS.95Feb22184954@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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In article <MAGNUS.95Feb22184954@darwin.uchicago.edu>
magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) writes:
}~ Has anyone written a "replacement" bundle for
}~ "/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/compression.bundle" that uses
}~ gzip instead of compress? Would it be possible? I find that I never
}~ use the compression utility in Workspace because I want to have
}~ things as compressed as possible.
dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip
But I don't recommend the "compress" equivalent if you're
interoperating with ANYONE else, even NeXTmail! On the other hnd, you
can use Workspace compress, and periodically convert .compressed files to
tgz files using the script below, or something comparable. With the
above dwrite, merely rename from .tgz to .compressed in the Workspace
browser and uncompress using Workspace - when you want a REPLACEMENT of
the archive with its contents.
#!/bin/sh
if ( test $# -eq 0 -o $1. = "-h." ); then \
echo ""
echo "Format: " `basename $0` \<file list\> ;
echo ""
echo " Where file list is any combination of files with" ;
echo " extensions = .compressed, .tar.Z or .tar.gz" ;
echo ""
echo " .compressed files are changed to .tar.Z then passed" ;
echo " to znew to be gzipped. The .tar.gz file is then" ;
echo " renamed to .tgz" ;
echo ""
echo " .tar.Z and .tar.gz files are renamed to .compressed" ;
exit 1
fi;
for f in $* ;
do
OF=$f
NC=`echo $f | /bin/sed -e 's/.compressed/.tar.Z/'`
if [ $OF = $NC ]; then NC=`echo $f | /bin/sed -e
's/.tar.Z/.compressed/'`; fi;
if [ $OF = $NC ]; then NC=`echo $f | /bin/sed -e
's/.tar.gz/.compressed/'`; fi;
if [ $OF = $NC ]; then NC=`echo $f | /bin/sed -e
's/.tgz/.compressed/'`; fi;
if [ -f $OF -a ! -f $NC ] ; then \
echo mv $OF $NC; mv $OF $NC;
elif [ -f $NC ] ; then
echo $NC already exists;
else
echo Cannot find $NC;
fi;
if [ -f $OF -a ! -f $NC ] ; then mv $OF $NC; fi;
if ( echo $NC | grep '.Z$' > /dev/null ) ; then znew -9v $NC ; fi;
if ( echo $NC | grep '.tar.Z' > /dev/null ) ; then \
FF=`echo $NC | /bin/sed -e 's/.tar.Z//'`;
if [ -f $FF.tar.gz -a ! -f $FF.tgz ] ; then \
mv $FF.tar.gz $FF.tgz; \
echo $FF.tar.gz replaced with $FF.tgz; \
fi;
fi;
done
Bruce Gingery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mmoreton@madge1.demon.co.uk (Mike Moreton)
Subject: Re: Adobe has no Loyalty (was Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader)
Organization: Madge Networks
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 08:27:51 GMT
Message-ID: <D4G26G.5nv@madge1.demon.co.uk>
References: <3igi8v$l99@network.ucsd.edu>
Christopher Penrose (penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu) wrote:
: Why has Adobe refused to develop an Acrobat reader
: for NeXTstep?
I would guess it's because they don't think they would make
any money out of it, and if they did do it for "loyalty"
reasons the directors could be sued by the shareholders.
If you really want this to happen, there is a very simple
route. Buy some Adobe shares, go along to the next AGM,
and propose a motion that Adobe develop loss making products
to show loyalty. I'm sure you'll get overwhelming support.
: Why has Adobe stopped supporting
: Adobe Illustrator for NeXTstep? Why has Adobe
: refused to develop Photoshop for NeXTstep? NeXT
: has supported Adobe's postscript products like
: no other company.
Gee, could it possibly be because they weren't selling enough to
make it worth while?
: What is wrong with these
: greedy, Adobe bastards?
Yes, totally unreasonable. When given a choice between making products
that hardly anyone seems to want enough to buy, and making those that
there is a large demand for, they chose the latter. When given a choice
between their company going bust, leaving them without jobs, and
their company trying to survive in a pretty competitive market place
they choose the latter. They're so greedy.
Of course, what's money? Why don't you just fund Adobe's development costs
out of your own pocket? Just nip down to see your bank manager, and borrow
the odd $500 000, I'm sure he'll give it to you. It's only money after all.
: Chris Penrose
: penrose@ucsd.edu
Ah, I understand. Maybe one day you'll have to leave your .edu address.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 missing Literature.pkg ?
Message-ID: <D4D0KA.7yE@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <1995Feb19.153553.2666@lkba.uucp>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:00:10 GMT
Isn't it just that the upgrade does not contain Literature.pkg and that the
full 3.3 does?
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: untereck@iphcip1.physik.uni-mainz.de (Oliver Unter Ecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP: PCMCIA under NEXTSTEP
Date: 23 Feb 1995 17:19:04 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <3iig28$bqg@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hi!
Just got a Megahertz PCMCIA modem for my NEC Versa 'E'. Works great under
Windows, but doesn't work at all for me under NEXTSTEP.
Of course, I configured both PCMCIA bus and PCMCIA Intel 82365 drivers.
I don't see any other PCMCIA drivers beside the Cogent Ethernet driver so
it's not all to surprising that nothing works.
However, someone on this newsgroup claimed it would work, so I still have
a little hope someone knows how to make it work. Anyone?
Also, does anyone know if there's something in the making from 3rd parties
for PCMCIA? I would really need PCMCIA SCSI, modem, and sound support, but
there seems to be nothing planned for the near future at NeXT. At least
their ftp.next.com FUTURE folder doesn't show anything.
Thanks.
Oliver
oliver@iphcip1.physik.uni-mainz.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shawn@monitor.com
Subject: Performance - Active Agents application ?????
Message-ID: <D4GK0F.1Kx@monitor.com>
Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 14:53:03 GMT
anyone know what happened with this or the folks who were writing it? a few
folks are interested in hunting it/them down.
thanks for any help!
shawn
---
Shawn Broderick
Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw
through the leather straps.
-- Emo Phillips
--
Shawn Broderick
Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
From: gkj@ornl.gov (Gary K. Jacobs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgrazer crash, again, different from others?
Date: 23 Feb 1995 14:49:36 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Message-ID: <3ii7a0$3lc@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
Quite suddenly, after years of working fine, NewsGrazer starts to launch and then abort.
These messages appear in the console...
Feb 23 09:35:05 jacobs WM[2275]: Assertion failed: stale deferred activation count
Feb 23 09:35:06 jacobs WM[2275]: Assertion failed: deferred act count is 0 in
_NXDoDelayedWindowOrdering
I have recently upgraded to 3.3, but it worked fine for a while after the upgrade.
Obviously, I have done some subtle change to my system that I am not aware of that is making this
bug pop up internittently.
Any suggestions?
I would prefer email responses, since I cannot rely on NewGrazer.
thanks
gary jacobs
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Converting PS to Tiff, or other raster image--HOW??
Date: 23 Feb 1995 15:32:53 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3ii9r5$qi@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman>
In article <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman> patrickg@feynman.success.net
writes:
>
> Here's the deal:
>
> I need to convert PosctScript images to a TIFF or other raster format,
so that I can convert them for a particular use. The standard Next print
panel allows me to save things as a device independent PS file.
>
> How do I convert this file? Or is there some other way to do it?
>
> I need this to be able to convert the raster image into a different,
proprietary image format.
>
> Thanks, Patrick Giagnocavo
> Lancaster, PA 717-390-4370
PixelMagician by B cchus can handle that conversion, even by the batch.
Let me know if you'd like more info.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: jms@jms.meie.mu.edu (J M Schimmels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mac generated Postscript and TeX
Date: 23 Feb 1995 15:47:40 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Dept. Math, Statistics, & Comp. Sci.
Message-ID: <3iiams$3on@spool.mu.edu>
I'm having a problem with displaying (in TeX on the NeXT) postscript
documents generated on a Mac (using MATLAB). The Preview app will read
the files correctly but TeX says that the files exceed the buffer size.
Any suggestions?
Joe Schimmels
Dept of Mechanical Eng.
Marquette University
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: *** TEST software for AUDIO ***
Message-ID: <1995Feb23.124312.34564@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 23 Feb 95 12:43:12 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
4-Fat demos, January 30, 1995
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
For more information please contact
===================================
Digital Recordings - Advanced R & D
5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H-1Y5, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
DFG and DFG_RT software is now available for 4 architectures :
==============================================================
NeXT, Intel, HP and Sun
=======================
4-Fat demo software is available now via ftp or directly from
Digital Recordings via NeXTmail.
DFG - Introduction
==================
DFG_RTdemo.app is a demo module for real-time synthesis of the
sinusoidal (pure tone) signal.Signals are generated in real time
and do not require the DSP processor (which is not available in
some NeXTSTEP computers).This version should work on all Motorola
Intel, Sun and HP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* and
equipped with D/A converters.
This program works very nicely with Digital Oscilloscope and
Spectrum Analyzer (both applications come with NeXT) and any
recording / editing software. Playback and recording/analysis
of the signal could be done simultaneously since DSP chip is not
used and main processor is used only 2-3% during signal production.
DFG_RT is an ideal signal source for research and teaching in the
fields of acoustics, psychoacoustics, electronics, electroacoustics,
physics, mechanics, vibration measurements, architecture, audiology
and transducer testing.
DFG Software Specifications / Parameters
=========================================
o Stereo output (independent R and L channel)
o Frequency adjustable continuously from 0 to 22,000 Hz.
o Frequency stability : +/- 0.0001 Hz at 1000 Hz
o Amplitude adjustable continuously from -140 to 0 dB
o Amplitude stability : +/- 0.00026 dB at 0 dB
o Phase adjustable continuously from 0 to 360 degrees.
o S/N ratio = 95 dB
DFG_RT Modules
===============
Currently there are 8 modules available in DFG_RT software :
DFG_RTsine.app - for generating pure tones (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsquare.app - for generating square wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTtriangular.app - for generating triangular wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsawtooth.app - for generating sawtooth wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTpulse.app - for generating delta-pulse train (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTnoise.app - for generating white noise in 0->22,050 Hz
range.
DFG_RTnoiseNB.app - for generating narrow band noise from
100->200 Hz to 11,000->22,000 range.
DFG_RTnoiseNBv.app - for generating narrow band noise with
bandwidth adjustable from 20 Hz to 2,000 Hz
and center frequency adjustable from 1 Hz
to 22,000 Hz.
DFGdemo.app and DFG_RTdemo.app are available on the following FTP sites
========================================================================
( please look for the files DFGdemo.app.tar.Z and DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z )
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl/pub2/next/submissions
==> Note 1: Also, you can obtain latest software via NeXTmail
*********** directly from: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
==> Note 2: We are looking forward to feedback, specially from
*********** users of NeXTSTEP on Sun and HP platforms on which
DFG software was not tested yet. Thanks in advance
for your help !
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame V4 ???
Date: 23 Feb 1995 16:10:40 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3iic20$6hb@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <1995Feb21.084136.8588@zh014.ubs.ubs.ch>
-> So all FM-users: buy FM3.2 for NEXTSTEP!
Firm purchase commitments for FM5 by many NS users would make more sense.
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 missing Literature.pkg ?
Date: 23 Feb 1995 16:59:04 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iieso$l5j@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3ig9pb$7lb@news.ycc.yale.edu>
In article <3ig9pb$7lb@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> In article <D4D0KA.7yE@rna.nl> gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
> > Isn't it just that the upgrade does not contain Literature.pkg and
that the
> > full 3.3 does?
>
> There is only one CDROM, and it can be used either as
> an upgrade or to build a new system.
>
> The answer appears to be yes, NeXT has dropped
> Literature.pkg, and we'll have to reload it from 3.2 if
> we upgrade to 3.3.
>
> --
> Nathan Janette
> Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
>
> Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
> Voice: 203 432 5065
> Fax: 203 432 3923
The following is the contents of the README.rtf file in the
/NextLibrary/References folder of the NEXTSTEP 3.3 User Installation
CD-ROM:
/NextLibrary/References is the folder for common reference texts. These
are rather large texts, and applications have been specially created for
you to view them.
You should use the Digital Webster application to view Webster's
dictionary and thesaurus.
In the extended release of the software, use Digital Quotations to
view the Oxford quotations.
Please note the mention of an "extended release" and Oxford quotations in
the second bullet. Interesting! Is there an "extended release" which can
be purchased?
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
Date: 21 Feb 1995 21:40:26 GMT
Organization: dART Software GmbH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3idmka$e68@dart.dART.DE>
References: <D477Mn.88@vergil.ping.de>
Lars-Ulrich Kahl writes
> In article <D45oGK.31C@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko) writes:
> > I've sent several messages over the past week to DaRT regarding a new
> version
> > of DOTs and other issues, but haven't received *any* response. Are they
> > still around? or don't they bother to support existing customers.
> >
> > Tim
>
> I did it, too in the past, i got no response.
> Two other guys of our club tried again last week - nothing.
> But DART is around - super service - super marketing. :-(
> DART is German Distributor for NeXT.
> Howw will NeXT get a market -
> - bad e-mail service
> - bad marketing
> - much to expensive
>
If we have such a bad e-mail service, I wonder why we still get several hundred
e-mails from customers every week. Sometimes so many (especially after NEXTSTEP
upgrades) that we can't answer them all immediately.
I just checked my outgoing mail archive, which shows more than 20,000 outgoing
mail messages. I don't think that many other people have written so many
e-mails.
BTW, I found several outgoing e-mails to Lars-Ulrich Kahl. The last one was
suggesting that he, as an end-user, should rather buy from one of our
resellers, than from DART (the distributor) direct.
Lars-Ulrich Kahl (and all the other members of his NeXT-Club-Schwerte) also got
a mailing from DART about todays NeXT announcements, just a few hours after the
official announcement in the U.S.
Regarding our marketing, people may like it or not. Fact is that we are one of
the few companies in the NEXTSTEP business who have maintained a real marketing
budget at all. Currently we spend about DM 500,000 (= $340,000) a year for
NEXTSTEP marketing, which is certainly more than any other NEXTSTEP distributor
worldwide. As an example we are exhibiting with NEXTSTEP at CeBIT for 5 years
in a row now.
Regarding our prices: If we are so expensive, why do people buy from DART then.
We have been the best-selling NEXTSTEP distributor in Europe for many years.
We also try to keep our NEXTSTEP list prices as close as we can to the
suggested U.S. retail prices, even though we have an indirect sales channel.
As an example, when Computer 2000 became a NeXT distributor, the first thing
that they did was to raise the list price from DM 1,300 to DM 1,500. When they
gave up NEXTSTEP distribution only 9 months later, the first thing we did, was
to lower the list price again.
Wilfried Beeck
DART Software GmbH
From: un032371@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Image Software
Message-ID: <1995Feb23.093508.13469@wvnvms>
Date: 23 Feb 95 09:35:08 EST
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing
I am looking for some Image Proccesing and maintanence software for the Next.
Any one having any info on manufactures or where i might this type of
software please send me an email.
bbaisden@mrj.com
Thanks In advance
Bryan Baisden
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where can I find DOTS ?
Date: 22 Feb 1995 15:04:36 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3ifjq4$2vg@castle.york.ac.uk>
Can anyone point me in the direction of the people who make the DOTS
package that allows NS to drive non-postscript printers ? I used to have
the address, but I seem to ahve lost it somehow :-(
thanks in advance...
-pete french.
From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FrameMaker for NeXT
Date: 21 Feb 1995 13:44:17 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3icqnh$2hd@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi all, I am interested in upgrading my copy of FrameMaker (2.0) to the
latest version. Please could you give me some info on who to contact/how
much it is/whether there is an educational discount, etc?
Also, what is the latest version of FrameMaker running on black hardware?
Any info is appreciated, please email me on eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk
I am an educational user living in the UK, so email or phone no of Frame Corp(UK) would be the most useful contact points.
Regards,
Eren Kotan
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Hidden treasures in 3.3
Date: 23 Feb 1995 19:11:55 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3iimlr$5vq@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Well, we all know that NeXT has certain marketing problems. Things MS
would dedicate a whole marketing campaign 'just work' with NEXTSTEP -
and nobody knows ;-). And if something is missing/doesn't work, NeXT
is anger not to let anybody now that they have finally fixed it with a
new release.
User templates in UserManager.app are really fine for me as sysadmin,
but
- Is there anybody but Carl Edman who has noticed that "zsh" is finally
aboard in 3.3 ? Not mentioned in any release note (or did I miss it ?)...
- Unix haters: Sometimes it happens that you have to use "vi" or "emacs"
in a shell. Ever heard of "pico" ? Try it in 3.3.
- Alt-dragging the miniaturize-icon from a window is perhaps the most
important change to Workspace behavior in 3.3 (at least for me; try
Edit!). Ever seen this in the docs ?
Please feel free to add to this list.
Gregor
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| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: compression.bundle
Message-ID: <D4H292.24G@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <MAGNUS.95Feb22184954@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 21:27:01 GMT
Magnus Nordborg writes
> Has anyone written a "replacement" bundle for
> "/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/compression.bundle" that uses
> gzip instead of compress? Would it be possible? I find that I never
> use the compression utility in Workspace because I want to have
> things as compressed as possible.
Just set the follwoing dwrites:
Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip
Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip
And you're set.
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: LaTex 2.09e
Message-ID: <D4H2DK.259@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <3idin9$mu9@mordred.gatech.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 21:29:44 GMT
John Bartholdi writes
> Hello,
>
> Can anyone tell me whether the new version of NeXTSTEP also
> includes upgrades to LaTeX? Or do I have to manage this
> on my own?
You have to do it yourself. I did. The only real problem is the mess they made
of the font types and such. It's all kind of stuff with enconding and never
properly explained. Since I want PostScript fonts too I ended up with a very
large virutal font table (botf for old and new encoding) and I don't know why it
works, but it works.
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: compression.bundle
Date: 23 Feb 1995 22:11:20 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3ij168$fq8@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <MAGNUS.95Feb22184954@darwin.uchicago.edu>
The cheesy way to do it is to simply replace /usr/ucb/compress,
uncompress, and zcat all with gzip. (gzip is already rigged to
recognize those executable names and do the right thing.)
This has the danger of confusion when you give a .compressed
file to someone else. However there is no problem with you then
using other people's .compressed files, since gzip understands
compress. Just replacing uncompress and zcat as above simply
increases functionality. The only concern is replacing compress.
mark
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: compression.bundle
Date: 23 Feb 1995 22:15:14 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3ij1di$g4j@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <MAGNUS.95Feb22184954@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Oh, and the other cheesy thing you can do is change the executable
names in Compressor.tool. In there you will find the strings
"/usr/ucb/compress" and "/usr/ucb/uncompress". You can just
replace those with path names of the same length. You can even
use Edit to do this! (Be careful to not change the number of
bytes.)
mark
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to print odd and even ...
Date: 24 Feb 1995 04:37:51 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Message-ID: <3ijnqv$8t2@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <3iefgp$sl9@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
In article <3iefgp$sl9@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) writes:
>
> How to print the odd and even pages?
>
Thanks for your response. The psutil can use for this.
And it is availabe in CTAN, in /support/psutil
But, the problem is now, when I print the "odd" or "even" of the
document after I transfer by psutil, the printer just print the
first one page then the job is over. What's wrong?
PS: I ust Dots, my printer is HP LaserJet 4P
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kenh@netcom.com (Ken Harris)
Subject: Net Renderman for NeXT
Message-ID: <kenhD4HE6I.KAr@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 01:44:42 GMT
Sender: kenh@netcom13.netcom.com
I know that Next machines have Renderman and some sort of RPC,
but is there a Net Renderman server (for our Mac and workstation
clients)?
--
----
Ken Harris Internet: kenh@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: How to print odd and even ...
Message-ID: <1995Feb23.191934.5005@precipice.fdntytruyu.fr>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdntytruyu.fr
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <3iefgp$sl9@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 19:19:34 GMT
In article <3iefgp$sl9@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih) writes:
>
> How to print the odd and even pages?
>
> Mark
Impossible (at least using PrintInfo object).
You can only print "from x to y".
May be possible in the NS4.0 new printing engine... or if you hack some actual print object.
Hugues.
rintInfo object).
Yo
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: what's in the Academic Bundle ??
In-Reply-To: alistair@bcu.ubc.ca's message of 22 Feb 1995 18:00:25 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Feb23085428@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
References: <3ifu3p$76g@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 14:54:28 GMT
In article <3ifu3p$76g@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> alistair@bcu.ubc.ca (Alistair Blachford) writes:
> Would someone please tell me WHAT'S IN THE BUNDLE?
The 3.3 academic bundle contains 3.3 User and 3.2 Developer, exactly
the same as the current commercial release. An academic upgrade to
3.3 Developer will be $99.
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
tel: +1.312.702-1093 (office)
tel: +1.312.667-5331 (home)
fax: +1.312.702-9740
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options = smart packages
Date: 24 Feb 1995 04:54:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ijoqq$dvl@bones.et.byu.edu>
References: <D4DGK7.113@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Thomas Engel writes
)
) Well just to back that up. I tried that split on my biggest app. Here is
) what comes out:
) [...]
) So what is the bottom line. Splitting like that won't cause too much
) overhead. making it a package will enlarge that because we have no gzip
) compression there..but anyway.
)
) Now if we have some app that builds those packages I think it is a
) win for both sides. Developers don't have to work hard to create to
) "splits", ftp admins won't waste additonal disc space or cpu time
) and the user can download only the things he needs...and if he wants
) it all...he won't have any overhead too.
Not bad. Now, as far as the stripping tool, whomever tackles writing
it needs to remember that the app executable isn't the only thing that
may be fat. Opener, for example, has lots of little UNIX executables
tucked away inside. And OpenWrite has lots of .o files--most of the
app is dynamically loaded on demand. And many NS apps have bundles.
Determining which items can be thinned isn't going to be trivial
since it seems nearly every app out there has it's own way of doing
things. Some hueristics apply--look at permissions, look for certain
extensions, etc.--but this could be a bit tricky to get right. :-)
And IMHO we'd still want a smarter Installer.app that can understand
how to put these things back together. Something that works like
Xanthus' SplitBuilder, as already suggested, would be a good start.
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: dirk@amg.de (Dirk Mimberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lost all color in Improv
Date: 22 Feb 1995 07:48:50 GMT
Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ieq92$95b@hagen.amg.de>
References: <3hph9t$ebr@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <3hph9t$ebr@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu
(John Kheit) writes:
> me@next.lnf.infn.it ("Earl C. Gero") writes:
> >1.) the default database got corrupted, I had to copy the root
> > account database into the me account.
> When you did this you hosed your 'color enabling dwrites' for Improv and
PB.
>
> >I tried using DefJam.app to change the PresentationBuilder defaults
> >NXColorPanelMode and NXColorPickerSlidersDefaults from 0 to 1. That
> >doesn't work. Running Improv resets them back to 0. Is there a way
> >to restore color to Improv?
> I don't think those are the correct dwrites for color. I forget the
correct
> ones. Also, when you copied over the root defaults database to your
account,
> did you do a chown on them--if not, that may be why you can't change
your
> defaults database.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Later, John
Try the following for enabling color in Improv:
dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes
--
Dirk Mimberg
AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH
Telefon (+49) 231 / 7 58 92 - 0
Telefax (+49) 231 / 7 58 92 - 90
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:26:55 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950224142252.4919D-100000@hphalle4a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <1995Feb20.000309.5018@dagobah.fdn.fr> <3ib8it$nq1@usenet.rpi.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3ib8it$nq1@usenet.rpi.edu>
On 20 Feb 1995, Garance A. Drosehn wrote:
> > foreach ARCH (m68k i386 hppa sparc)
>
> Intel binaries can be either i386 or i486 architectures. Different
> files in a single app-wrapper might differ in whether the intel part
> is 386 or 486.
>
There is one question I always wanted to ask:
cc provides the i486 flag, which should prodcue better (faster?) code for
i486/i586 processors. All sources I catch from the net, are compiling for
i386. As far as I know, there is no NS for the i386!? So why the hell is
everybody using the i386 instead of i486 flag?! Are there any caveats
which should prevent someony from using the i486 compiler option?
Just a little bit confused about the Developer Kit,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: Matt.Demsey@McCaw.Com (ldq)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What about a newsgroup for Nextstep people icons?
Date: 22 Feb 1995 18:38:48 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ig0bo$16s@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <D4CIuu.HD@gurke.ping.de>
tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies) offered:
> Well, you all know that Mail.app, Newsgrazer.app and Alexandra.app
> (Version 0.8 not available yet) shows you the writers' picture.
>
> My surgestion: Distribute these pictures worldwide via Usenet!!!
> ...
This was originally done a few years ago, back when there was only
comp.sys.next and the size of the community was a bit more managable..
For one reason or another (similar to evolution), the desire and/or
ability fell off long ago - if you look at nova and orst, there's
still an old tar file laying around with early people gifs...
At this point, there's probably far too many people to merit the
vanity of keeping local repositories of peoples images...
Now if someone wanted to write a server application to maintain
a central repository and respond to client requests for an image,
and someone wanted to give the space and time to managing the server
and someone wanted to write a client lib to call the server, and
that person convinced the prompt author of NG to put the feature into
NG along with Mail and Alexandra - that might work..
loki
(argh thru_)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle)
Subject: Re: What about a newsgroup for Nextstep people icons?
Message-ID: <1995Feb22.202647.2622@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual
References: <D4CIuu.HD@gurke.ping.de>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 20:26:47 GMT
Constantin Szallies writes
> [...]
>
> My surgestion: Distribute these pictures worldwide via Usenet!!!
> There could be a newsgroup comp.sys.next.people or something like
> that. One could post his picture uuencoded, and others could get it!
>
how about a simple ftp directory instead ?
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Yann LECHELLE - Edge Seeker yann@dagobah.fdn.fr | y_lechelle@effix.fr
25, rue Bosquet - Paris, France +NeXT/MIME +m68k/hppa +PS/TIFF/JPG/GIF/..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dstorey@malahat.library.uvic.ca (Daryl Storey)
Subject: McGill-X - NS3.0 (PLEASE READ & RESPOND)
Message-ID: <1995Feb22.175400.849@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 17:54:00 GMT
I can't get McGill-X to install. I am running NS3.0. What happens is I
get ~95% done and then I get this error:
Installing /usr/local/X11R4/usr/man/catn/xev.n ... OK.
Installing /usr/bin/X11 ... OK.
Installing /usr/lib/X11 ... File exists.
USER: Undefined variable.
**** There were errors while installing McGill-X.pkg.
.. errors.
I really, really would like to install this software. If anyone has
suggestions, please pass them on. I have the entire log of the
installation if that might help.
Are there any othere X-Window emulators out there that someone knows will
run on NS3.0 and is FREE? FREE being the major advantage. Thanks.
----------------------------------
| Daryl Storey |
| dstorey@sirius.uvic.ca |
| http://www-engr.uvic.ca/~dstorey |
----------------------------------
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can't change volume anymore
Date: 23 Feb 1995 16:37:11 GMT
Message-ID: <3iidjn$c8t@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Some days ago I realized that the volume of the speaker box on my slab (NeXT Turbo
Color with NS 3.3) can't be changed anymore.
I tried the two keys on the keyoard, the slider in Preferences, the slider in
SoundCheck. All reflect the change, but none does result in a change I can hear.
I can mute and demute the speaker.
It's for all users the same, and it happend to both our NeXTs!
I don't know where I should start looking. Any ideas?
Thanks,
--
Moritz Willers
Institute of Theoretical Physics
Sidlerstrasse 5
3012 Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail, MIME)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What about a newsgroup for Nextstep people icons?
Date: 23 Feb 1995 23:29:06 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ij5o2$b3e@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <D4CIuu.HD@gurke.ping.de>
tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies) writes:
> My surgestion: Distribute these pictures worldwide via Usenet!!!
> There could be a newsgroup comp.sys.next.people or something like
> that. One could post his picture uuencoded, and others could get
> it!
There's already a mailing list for people interested in doing
that, which would be the next-icon mailing list. I suspect
that's better than trying to start up a newsgroup.
next-icon is run by GUN (next user's group), and the ftp
archives also have collections of all these face-tiff icons.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: what's in the Academic Bundle ??
Date: 23 Feb 1995 23:38:02 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ij68q$bba@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <MAGNUS.95Feb23085428@darwin.uchicago.edu>
magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) writes:
> alistair@bcu.ubc.ca (Alistair Blachford) writes:
> > Would someone please tell me WHAT'S IN THE BUNDLE?
>
> The 3.3 academic bundle contains 3.3 User and 3.2 Developer,
> exactly the same as the current commercial release. An academic
> upgrade to 3.3 Developer will be $99.
There seems to be some confusion about that, at least when
ordering for m68k (NeXT) hardware via NASCORP.
I called NeXT to ask what I'd get with the educational package,
and they said it'd be 3.3 user and 3.2 developer. So, I ordered
it thru our campus micro store. They turned around and ordered
it from NASCORP, and what arrived was 3.2 user and 3.2 developer.
We called NASCORP, and they said they'd check into it. They
called back and said that's all you get with the academic bundle.
So I called NeXT back, and after some investigation they thought
that it might be possible that the academic package for NeXT
hardware (which is an "upgrade", instead of a "brand new copy")
might not have been setup right. So while the current academic
package for Intel gets you 3.3 user and 3.2 developer, the
academic package for the m68k "upgrade" might be 3.2 of both.
Note that the academic package for HP is also 3.2 for both (at
least at the moment it is).
It was suggested that this would be all straightened out once
the new products are shipping, as then they'll have 3.3 user
and 3.3 developer for all four platforms.
If anyone has ordered the *m68k* academic bundle from NASCORP
recently, and received 3.3 User and 3.2 developer, I'd like to
hear about it. My own personal pet theory is that NASCORP
has both "3.2 only" and the "3.3/3.2 mix" packages, but they
don't realize it because the product number (from NeXT) is
the same for both boxes.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: Frame V4 ???
Message-ID: <D4F9yy.6I5@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <MSANDER.95Feb21224422@bcarh85b.bnr.ca> <3ifr50$35o4@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 22:18:34 GMT
In article <3ifr50$35o4@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>,
Dave Randall <sh.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote:
>In article <MSANDER.95Feb21224422@bcarh85b.bnr.ca> msander@bcarh85b.bnr.ca
>(Michael Sanderson) writes:
>> In article <3iduci$54h@potogold.rmii.com> dan@opensource.com (Daniel J.
>Gamble) writes:
>> >Representatives from Frame Technologies met with OpenSource two weeks.
>> >When we asked this same question, there response was that no, FrameMaker
>> >4.0 will never be available for NS. FrameMaker 5.0 (due out by year's
>> > end), however, will be :-)
>>
>> Now you're teasing! Why the smiley? Is there no such beast as Frame
>> 5.0? Or was a similar promise made about Frame 4.0 last year?
>
>I think the smiley means that Mike is happy that Frame 5 will be available for
>NS. So am I.
That would be great... I hope it doesn't go the way of WordPerfect 6.0, which
at one point back in the mists of 1989's prehistory was supposed to appear
first on the Amiga as the prototype version and then to be made available
on other systems. This plan went the way of all things when WP totally dumped
Amiga development about six months later, killing WP Amiga, PlanPerfect Amiga,
and WP Library Amiga. Of course their WordPerfect port was kind of repulsive,
but...
--
Jerry Kuch EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca
"GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN" will be released
IMPORTANT NEWS: in Japan on March 11th, one week earlier than the
original March 18th release date.
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe has no Loyalty (was Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader)
Date: 22 Feb 1995 23:44:31 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3igi8v$l99@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: adobe,dps
It is really amazing to me that Adobe has abandoned
NeXTstep, the only operating system with a display
postscript interface. With every copy of NeXTstep
sold, Adobe receives a royalty.
Why has Adobe refused to develop an Acrobat reader
for NeXTstep? Why has Adobe stopped supporting
Adobe Illustrator for NeXTstep? Why has Adobe
refused to develop Photoshop for NeXTstep? NeXT
has supported Adobe's postscript products like
no other company. What is wrong with these
greedy, Adobe bastards?
Chris Penrose
penrose@ucsd.edu
http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 missing Literature.pkg ?
Date: 22 Feb 1995 21:19:39 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ig9pb$7lb@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <D4D0KA.7yE@rna.nl>
In article <D4D0KA.7yE@rna.nl> gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
> Isn't it just that the upgrade does not contain Literature.pkg and that the
> full 3.3 does?
There is only one CDROM, and it can be used either as
an upgrade or to build a new system.
The answer appears to be yes, NeXT has dropped
Literature.pkg, and we'll have to reload it from 3.2 if
we upgrade to 3.3.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: 22 Feb 1995 23:47:51 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3igif7$lf6@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <1995Feb20.180811.10434@adobe.com>
Keywords: adobe
In article <1995Feb20.180811.10434@adobe.com> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
writes:
> >The Reader doesn't need to be free on Nextstep, but at least there
> >has to be one! Nextstep/Openstep is a growing market, and I don't
> >wanna see Adobe dropping the most superior DPS platform :-((
>
> IMHO: Don't tell me, tell a sales or marketing person. Or, tell other
app
> vendors that you'd pay to see them fill Adobe's void in this area.
>
> Joe Pasqua
> Adobe Systems Incorporated.
The least you could do Joe, is tell us who to talk to. Give us
an email address, a postal address, a phone number, give us something!
If you really want to do something, you could say something to these
people yourself.
Adobe has no loyalty.
Christopher Penrose
penrose@ucsd.edu
http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rtabibia.notes@mail.zd.ziff.com (R. Tabibian)
Subject: Help! Tyring to create an internet server using NeXT
Message-ID: <rtabibia.notes-2302950359160001@pcmag2.zdlabs.ziff.com>
Sender: news@zcias2.ziff.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Self
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 00:22:40 GMT
Hello:
I am trying to create a full fledged internet server using NeXTStep 3.3.
However, I am not sure where I can get all the tools that I am looking
for. Is there anyone out there that is using NeXT as their internet
server? If so I would appreciate any help in this matter.
Tools I am looking for:
HTTP Server
DNS Server
Gopher Server
NNTP Server
Thanks
Ryan
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: elm vs pine (was: MIME mail for NeXT??)
Date: 24 Feb 1995 02:21:37 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ijfrh$c57@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3ihs1u$j7j@castle.york.ac.uk>
In article <3ihs1u$j7j@castle.york.ac.uk> csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin
Perkins) writes:
> The mbox file in the NeXTmail mailbox is the same format as the elm
> folders, unless you've received any nextmail. At which point NeXTmail
> saves the body of the nextmail message out, adds a few strange headers
> and does not fix headers like content-length and lines to match with
> the new mail size.
>
> Result: Elm dies horribly when reading the folder.
> This is under 3.0 BTW.
I don't have this problem under NS 3.2. I only have to be careful to read
NextMails with Mail.app. If I read one with elm, I make sure to exit elm
without saving the NextMail message to the incoming folder. I then read
the same message with Mail.app to save the message in the incoming folder.
As long as I do this, elm and Mail.app coexist fine. I have never had elm
crash when reading a NextMail message. It just shows all the garbage
formatting characters of the NextMail message, that's all.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: compression.bundle
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Feb22184954@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 00:49:54 GMT
Has anyone written a "replacement" bundle for
"/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/compression.bundle" that uses
gzip instead of compress? Would it be possible? I find that I never
use the compression utility in Workspace because I want to have
things as compressed as possible.
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
tel: +1.312.702-1093 (office)
tel: +1.312.667-5331 (home)
fax: +1.312.702-9740
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: tiff whitespace to transparent?
Date: 22 Feb 1995 16:06:44 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ifnek$6mt@castle.york.ac.uk>
References: <3hu752$513@news.iastate.edu>
sela@iastate.edu writes:
>
> Does anybody know of a way that I could make the whitespace in a tiff
> transparent. For example, I use grab to grab a tiff that is on a white
> background. How can I convert that white background to a transparent
> background now that it is part of the tiff?
I've always done this by hand in Iconbuilder - if you've got anything
opther than a simple backgroudn then it's a right pain to do though.
Writing a program to load in a tiff and change all of a particular colour
to transparent shouldn't be a problem though - the tiff object is
very easy to use in normal C program (niot Apps).
-bat.
From: cs@ecs.co.at (Christian Starkjohann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SUBMISSION: new version of ParallelPortDriver
Date: 23 Feb 1995 20:02:10 GMT
Organization: EUnet EDV DienstleistungsgesmbH, Wien
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iipk2$g0u@c2.eunet.co.at>
Originator: cs@servus
Hello,
I submitted version 1.2 of ParallelPortDriver to
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/i486/parallel.
It is intended for those of you who cannot use NeXT's Parallel Port driver,
because it does not work (on some machines NeXT's driver will not load at
boot-time or it will lose bytes when printing).
It works now with NS3.3 and it should not crash systems with certain
configurations any more.
--
Christian Starkjohann <cs@ecs.co.at> or <cs@ds1.kph.tuwien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Background Image?
Message-ID: <RDL.95Feb23224801@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 03:48:01 GMT
Is there an application or BackSpace module that allows you place an image
in the background. i.e. it should scale to the size of the screen and be
ordered behind all other windows.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Scripts
Message-ID: <1995Feb25.003752.12634@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual
References: <3ijoqq$dvl@bones.et.byu.edu>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 00:37:52 GMT
Well, here I am again with my scripts... improved.
The first one slices your app in architecture-thin wrappers...
The second one merges all available archives into one big fat app.
o they work with binaries at any depth in the wrappers...
(check the command 'find')
o I've tested them on tri- and quad-wrappers... and seem to work.
How about you try it out on your apps ?
o On the merger side, you can drop out any architecture.
You can even merge an architecture after the first merge.
#!/bin/sh
#
# LipoSlice
#
# The purpose of this sh script is to slice an app wrapper's
# binaries for archiving into architecture-thin mirrored wrappers...
#
# Yann Lechelle - Feb 24 1995
#
OPWD=`pwd`
if [ $# -eq 1 ] && [ -d $1 ]; then
cd $1
else
echo $0: one argument expected. It must be a directory.
echo $0: abort.
exit
fi
ISFAT=0
for FILE in `find * -print 2> /dev/null`
do
INFO=`lipo -info $FILE 2> /dev/null`
if [ `echo $INFO | grep fat | grep -v Non-fat | wc -l` -ne 0 ];
then
ISFAT=1
for ARCH in m68k i386 hppa sparc
do
if [ `echo $INFO | grep $ARCH | wc -l` -ne 0 ];
then
case $ARCH in
m68k) ARCHLETTER=N ;;
i386) ARCHLETTER=I ;;
hppa) ARCHLETTER=H ;;
sparc) ARCHLETTER=S ;;
esac
mkdirs ../$1.$ARCHLETTER/$FILE
rmdir ../$1.$ARCHLETTER/$FILE
lipo -thin $ARCH $FILE -output
../$1.$ARCHLETTER/$FILE
fi
done
# NOTE: the following removes the $FILE fat binary from the
wrapper...
# All architectures should hopefully have been extracted.
rm $FILE
fi
done
cd $OPWD
if [ "$ISFAT" = 1 ]; then
/bin/mv $1 $1.rsc
for EXTLETTER in N I H S rsc
do
if [ -d $1.$EXTLETTER ]; then
/usr/bin/gnutar -cf $1.$EXTLETTER.tar
$1.$EXTLETTER
/usr/bin/gzip -9 $1.$EXTLETTER.tar
fi
done
else
echo $0: $1 is not a fat wrapper.
echo $0: abort.
fi
# ----------------------- end of LipoSlice ----------------------
#!/bin/sh
#
# LipoMerge
#
# The purpose of this sh script is to merge archived architecture-thin
# mirrored wrappers... into a fat app wrapper's
#
# Yann Lechelle - Feb 24 1995
#
OPWD=`pwd`
if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then
echo $0: one argument expected. It must be the expected app
wrapper.
echo $0: abort.
exit
fi
for FILE in `ls $1.*.tar.gz 2> /dev/null`
do
/usr/bin/gzip -d $FILE
/usr/bin/gnutar -xf `basename $FILE .gz`
done
if [ -d $1.rsc ]; then
mv $1.rsc $1
fi
if [ ! -d $1 ]; then
echo $0: $1 could not be found nor created. Aborting
echo $0: abort.
exit
fi
for ARCHLETTER in N I H S
do
if [ -d $OPWD/$1.$ARCHLETTER ]; then
cd $OPWD/$1.$ARCHLETTER
for FILE in `find * -print 2> /dev/null`
do
if [ -f $FILE ]; then
if [ -f ../$1/$FILE ]; then
lipo $FILE ../$1/$FILE -create
-output ../$1/$FILE
else
cp $FILE ../$1/$FILE
fi
fi
done
fi
done
cd $OPWD
# ----------------------- end of LipoMerge ----------------------
Garance A. Drosehn said there was a problem for i486 binaries... I've
never seen any i486 binaries ! How does that compare to i386 binaries ?
Should they co-exist with i386 binaries ???
Of course, the above scripts do not solve the package issue, nor do they
provide a neat interface for UNIX haters ;-)
Let me know what you think.
Cheers,
YL
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Yann LECHELLE - Edge Seeker yann@dagobah.fdn.fr | y_lechelle@effix.fr
25, rue Bosquet - Paris, France +NeXT/MIME +m68k/hppa +PS/TIFF/JPG/GIF/..
From: David Pascua <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3.3 --> 3.2
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 09:54:44 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4jGp0oe00YWn813ldD@andrew.cmu.edu>
Hello,
I need to 'downgrade' my NeXT ColorStation from 3.3 User to 3.2 User.
What's the easiest way to do this WITHOUT using the 3.2 installation
floppy? I don't know if there is any easy way with the floppy, I just
know that I spent the better part of last night looking it for without
success.
I don't care if my HD gets totally wiped out -- I've backed up
everything I need.
If I do need the 3.2 installation floppy, how can I go about getting it?
Can I get the necessary files from the net and copy it into a floppy?
I've already tried running the upgrade.app on the 3.2 User CD -- it sez
that it won't upgrade from 3.3.
On a somewhat related note, how do I build a boot floppy? Do I use BuildDisk?
-Dave
From: kukla@interaccess (L.G.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HP Scanjet IIc/Word Scan OCR Help
Date: 24 Feb 1995 16:46:27 GMT
Organization: InterAccess
Message-ID: <3il2h3$j36@nntp.interaccess.com>
Hi - is anyone aware of whether or not "professional" versions of
text scanning software improve the quality of scanned documents? Our firm
currently uses an HP ScanJet IIc/ADF scanner with Calera Word Scan OCR
software. The employees at our firm complain that the final products are
filled with too many rogue codes and errors in, in this case, WordPerfect.
Inasmuch as I feel no matter how many errors or codes the documents end up
with, it is still better, where huge documents are concerned, than
retyping the document; regardless, complaint after complaint keeps ending
up on my desk... Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks - Lisa in Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options = smart packages
Message-ID: <jlemonD4ILMA.Kxy@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D4DGK7.113@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <3ijoqq$dvl@bones.et.byu.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 17:22:58 GMT
Sender: jlemon@netcom22.netcom.com
In article <3ijoqq$dvl@bones.et.byu.edu>,
Don Yacktman <Don_Yacktman@byu.edu> wrote:
>Thomas Engel writes
>)
>) Well just to back that up. I tried that split on my biggest app. Here is
>) what comes out:
>) [...]
>) So what is the bottom line. Splitting like that won't cause too much
>) overhead. making it a package will enlarge that because we have no gzip
>) compression there..but anyway.
>)
>) Now if we have some app that builds those packages I think it is a
>) win for both sides. Developers don't have to work hard to create to
>) "splits", ftp admins won't waste additonal disc space or cpu time
>) and the user can download only the things he needs...and if he wants
>) it all...he won't have any overhead too.
>
>Not bad. Now, as far as the stripping tool, whomever tackles writing
>it needs to remember that the app executable isn't the only thing that
>may be fat. Opener, for example, has lots of little UNIX executables
>tucked away inside. And OpenWrite has lots of .o files--most of the
>app is dynamically loaded on demand. And many NS apps have bundles.
>Determining which items can be thinned isn't going to be trivial
>since it seems nearly every app out there has it's own way of doing
>things. Some hueristics apply--look at permissions, look for certain
>extensions, etc.--but this could be a bit tricky to get right. :-)
Actually, since this issue is near and dear to my heart (being behind a
measly 14.4k link), I spent yesterday playing around with the issue. It
turns out that it really isn't difficult to do - lipo will split and
merge fat files as is (although 3.2 needs support for hppa). As for the
rest, I've written a simple program that scans an entire directory hierarchy,
and determines whether a file is in mach-O format or not, and what architecture
it is for.
So all that's left to do is interface this thing to lipo, and write a
gui around the entire shebang. Look for something next week. :-)
--
Jonathan
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What about a newsgroup for Nextstep people icons?
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 17:31:36 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950224173136.4564AACUJ.malc@daneel>
References: <D4CIuu.HD@gurke.ping.de> <1995Feb22.202647.2622@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> > My surgestion: Distribute these pictures worldwide via Usenet!!!
> > There could be a newsgroup comp.sys.next.people or something like
> > that. One could post his picture uuencoded, and others could get
> > it!
> >
> how about a simple ftp directory instead ?
>
You mean like
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/misc/people-tiffs/
for example...?! :-)
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: elm vs pine (was: MIME mail for NeXT??)
Date: 24 Feb 1995 17:08:55 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3il3r7$jgl@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3h3vgg$2ca@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <3h5nm4$hh7@news.u.washington.edu> <3ihs1u$j7j@castle.york.ac.uk>
Colin Perkins (csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk) wrote:
: Well, I'm not convinced about that having been burned in the
: transition between NeXTmail and elm before.
: The mbox file in the NeXTmail mailbox is the same format as the elm
: folders, unless you've received any nextmail. At which point NeXTmail
: saves the body of the nextmail message out, adds a few strange headers
: and does not fix headers like content-length and lines to match with
: the new mail size.
: Result: Elm dies horribly when reading the folder.
: As a result of this and several other annoying bugs in NeXTmail, I now
: use elm exclusively.
: This is under 3.0 BTW.
I use elm quite a bit, and NeXTmail has never caused it to die. Of
course, we're using NS3.2.
--
| Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate |
| rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
From: tagoldth@camtwh.eric.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT mmap() ??????
Date: 24 Feb 1995 16:34:46 GMT
Organization: The Eye Research Institute of Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3il1r6$nb2@sator.eric.on.ca>
Summary: map_fd won't do....
Keywords: map_fd mmap
Hi All,
For years on other systems, I've used mmap() to allow me to use pointers into
mapped files to scribble at random places. The point being, that when
unmapped, the vm system takes care of putting the dirty pages back. This
normally winds up being very efficient as compared to the read() scribble
write() that would have to be done otherwise.
I was asked by a colleage about how I do my random scribbling, and I suggested
mmap(). To my surprise, when I compiled a simple test program on the NeXT,
i get EINVAL returned from mmap(), no matter what the arguments are. Thinking
that there may be a problem, I checked the librarian and the man pages. There
was NO MMAP! Only map_fd existed, which does not do what is needed, since I
have to explicitly write back (and keep track of) hundreds of random scribbles.
Just writing the whole range mapped by map_fd() is a large waste of time, since
the files that get mapped are huge, and the changes very small.
Oddly, though mmap() on the NeXT is not documented, the mman.h header file
is there and is complete, and the routine itself is in the library, I just
can't get it to do anything but return a failure.... sigh....
Does anyone have any caveats for the NeXT mmap that are not in the online
documentation anywhere? Please reply by email, as I normally have no time
to read news.
Tom
From: sbeck@julia (Stephen David Beck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Csnd.app for NeXT & Intel
Date: 23 Feb 1995 19:38:47 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University InterNetNews Site
Message-ID: <3iio87$1u2v@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
SUBMISSION - Csnd.app v1.6
Csnd.app v1.6 is a graphic interface to Csound for NEXTSTEP
computers.
It now comes bundled with a compiled MAB binary for NeXT
and Intel computers. This is an upgrade to the previously
released version of Csnd.app, and contains a few new
features:
* MAB csound binary for NeXT and Intel platforms
* Support of AIFF formated soundfiles (playback, file
management, and analysis functions all supported)
* Improved Preferences panel with support for midifile
editors (it does not contain an editor, but will
call one with a double-click) support for panel-
based directory searches, and improved interface
* Writes score.srt to /tmp
Csnd.app was developed under NS 3.2 and requires 3.2 to run.
While my students are constant doing things to it that might
make it crash, it now seems pretty robust. However, there
are probably still problems (as there ALWAYS are). If you
find any bugs, please let me know, and I'll fix it.
Csnd.app is available by anonymous ftp from the SEAMUS ftp
archive. It is located at the following URL:
ftp://nicemusic.music.niu.edu/pub/SEAMUS/SOFTWARE/NeXT
It is also posted to ftp.cs.orst.edu.
It was posted to /pub/next/submissions/Csnd.app.v1.6 and
will probably migrate to /pub/next/binaries/sound. Please
read the README file for instructions.
Stephen David Beck
School of Music
Louisiana State University
Baton Rouge, LA 70803-2504
sbeck@math.lsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Adobe has no Loyalty (was Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader)
In-Reply-To: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu's message of 22 Feb 1995 23:44:31 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.95Feb23120004@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <3igi8v$l99@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 20:00:04 GMT
Christopher Penrose writes:
Christopher> It is really amazing to me that Adobe has abandoned NeXTstep,
Christopher> the only operating system with a display postscript interface.
We haven't abandoned it. But there are realities to deal with.
Christopher> Why has Adobe refused to develop an Acrobat reader for
Christopher> NeXTstep?
How many machines running NEXTSTEP are out there? And what platforms have
we put Acrobat on, and how many of those are out there? The numbers are
startling - NeXT just isn't that big yet, and had decided to sell into
markets that aren't friendly to off-the-shelf software.
Christopher> Why has Adobe stopped supporting Adobe Illustrator for
Christopher> NeXTstep?
The number of copies sold compared to the number of copies in use was very
low. Especially compared to the amount of work involved. Once burned,
twice shy.
Christopher> Why has Adobe refused to develop Photoshop for NeXTstep?
See above. And below.
Christopher> NeXT has supported Adobe's postscript products like no other
Christopher> company. What is wrong with these greedy, Adobe bastards?
No. NeXT supported Display PostScript like no other company has. And Adobe
continues to give NeXT good support for Display PostScript. They have never
supported ISVs well, Adobe included.
NEXTSTEP is a great platform - for developing NEXTSTEP apps. It's a _lousy_
platform for bringing over a cross-platform app - especially ones as large
and complex as Photoshop and Illustrator. And the market is too small to
make the high amount of effort worth it. Yes, NEXTSTEP can now support
smaller developers doing NEXTSTEP specific apps - NEXTSTEP enables great
apps to be done with little effort. As long as you don't mind being stuck
with just the NeXT market.
Hey, if I had a lot of free time on my hands, I'd love to do Photoshop on
NEXTSTEP. It'd be a pain in the butt, and take a long time, but it might be
fun. Reality is, our hands are full just moving it to platforms where we
have a chance of making a little money. And if you think we make enough
money off of Display PostScript to make up for a loss porting an app, well,
you've been listening to those $500 check rumors again, haven't you? :-)
--
Scott Byer E-Mail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are my opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
Don't exhume the 70's - they looked bad then, and they didn't age well.
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe has no Loyalty (was Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader)
Date: 23 Feb 1995 20:04:09 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iipnp$rlh@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3igi8v$l99@network.ucsd.edu>
Christopher Penrose writes
> What is wrong with these
> greedy, Adobe bastards?
>
I don't know.... maybe someone in our community said something to offend
them?
:)
TLM
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
From: pjcagnar@dinews.epfl.ch (Paul-Jean Cagnard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac generated Postscript and TeX
Date: 24 Feb 1995 15:32:05 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Message-ID: <3iku5l$re2@disunms.epfl.ch>
References: <3iiams$3on@spool.mu.edu>
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J M Schimmels (jms@jms.meie.mu.edu) wrote:
: I'm having a problem with displaying (in TeX on the NeXT) postscript
: documents generated on a Mac (using MATLAB). The Preview app will read
: the files correctly but TeX says that the files exceed the buffer size.
: Any suggestions?
You have to convert the Mac end of line convention to Unix end of line
convention. Mac uses "cr", Unix uses "lf" and PCs use "cr+lf". With
Emacs you can replace every ^M with a ^J. On the Mac, BBEdit lets you
make the changes.
Good luck.
--
Paul-Jean Cagnard
pjcagnar@di.epfl.ch
From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Different Sized Docks
Date: 23 Feb 1995 20:23:49 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <3iiqsl$s51@news.iastate.edu>
When I started working with NEXTSTEP 3.2, I was using a NeXTstation Turbo
Color (which has room for 13 applications in the Dock).
Later, we purchased a Vectra 486/66XM. Since the S3928 video subsystem
really is only usuable as 1024x768 in 16-bit color, there is only room for
12 applications in the Dock. Fortunately, the Recycler in the bottom
moved to the bottom left corner when I logged into the Vectra.
Recently, we purchased a Gateway 2000 P5-90, with a Diamond Stealth 64 4MB
VRAM and a Nokia 447X. Since the 32-bit 1152x864@75Hz is unusable and the
32-bit 1152x864@60Hz is too low a refresh rate, I have chosen to use
16-bit 1280x1024@75Hz, which is nice, but a little small for some people
(however, I find it usable). This resolution gives me 16 applications in
the Dock. This machine is now running NEXTSTEP 3.2 and a strange thing
has happened.
The Dock using 1280x1024 is different from the Dock on a NeXT computer or
a PC at 1024x768! They seem to be stored separately and I am curious how
this is accomplished...
Yes, I found some files in ~/.NeXT which have a suffix of .i386 and .m68,
but they do not seem to have the information about the Dock.
Don't get me wrong! I like it...
I would prefer that window sizings and placement would also be stored
separately, however, since if I try to take advantage of the larger screen
size, then I have to resize and relocate application windows when I log
onto machines with smaller screen resolutions...
Anybody who has figured this out - please tell me how it works!
--
Rod Ragner, UNIX/NeXT Syatems Administrator/Programmer
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: SLIP -- My IP Address?
Message-ID: <D4HrAB.8AJ@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 06:27:47 GMT
I made some progress today. I can get packet activity by having
PopOver retrieve mail(using TranSys PNI for SLIP). Mail.app is
invoked, but nothing new shows up(I first verified that I had mail to
retrieve from my server). Then I verified that something really was
happening between PopOver and my mail server by setting up PopOver to
delete mail after it was retrieved; after invoking a retrieval, my
test mail disappeared from my server as expected.
I'm 99% certain that I don't have my IP set up properly. I can't find
where it's defined, though I suspect that NetInfoMgr has the answer.
I want my IP to be 192.0.2.1, and noticed that /networks/next-default
has an address of 192.42.172. Is that correctly stated?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing TeXview on HP
Date: 25 Feb 95 13:08:05 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.793717685@coricopat>
References: <3hoiad$nkb@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> <3hrfg3$78d@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3hrg3m$9eb@reuter.cse.ogi.edu>
uzi@anago.cse.ogi.edu (Uzi Levin) writes:
>I am having problems printing latex documents created using TeXview on
>a HP laserJet III. The printed quality is very poor. I have tried to set
>the custorm resulution to 300 but that does not help much.
I had the same problem. Since you're on an HP (and probably don't
print to a 400dpi printer anyway), why don't you go and change
/NextLibrary/TeX/tex/ps/config.ps to *always* use 300dpi.
(it's self documenting, just look at the file)
Chris
--
"I ride tandem with a random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: JPEG Viewer
Date: 24 Feb 1995 11:41:03 -0800
Organization: Cal Poly, State University
Message-ID: <3ilcof$rc7@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>
References: <1995Feb24.122146.2240@opalo>
NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste
In article <1995Feb24.122146.2240@opalo>,
Jose Antonio Blanco Riera <chapi@trasgu.aic.uniovi.es> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>I am looking for a JPEG Viewer (and/or a converter from/to TIFF if
>possible).
>
>Thanks in advance.
>--
>*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
>| Jose Antonio Blanco Riera (Chapi) |: \\ \X/ // :|
>| Universidad de Oviedo |: \\ /X\ // :|
>| E-Mail : chapi@trasgu.aic.uniovi.es |: \\ // \\ // :|
>| trasgu is a NeXT Cube, of course. |: \X/ \X/ :|
>*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
Try GraphicsWorkshop.app by Alex Raftis. I'm not sure where this is
storred but if you send email to him I'm sure he will point you in
the right direction.
araftis@lore.acs.calpoly.edu
-Mont
Dover Pacific Computing Inc.
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame V4 ???
Date: 24 Feb 1995 17:17:09 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3il4al$kes@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <1995Feb21.084136.8588@zh014.ubs.ubs.ch>
In article <1995Feb21.084136.8588@zh014.ubs.ubs.ch> zhs79@svusenet.ubs.ch
writes:
> I was asking exactly the same question to Frame itself a few days ago.
> They told me, that they did not intend to port a Frame4 version to
> NEXTSTEP. Their plan is to evaluate the success of Frame 3.2 and then
> to decide about future releases running under NS.
>
> As a consequence they wrote:
> "IF/WHEN another FrameMaker NS release is made available,
> it will skip the Frame4 generation of releases."
>
> So all FM-users: buy FM3.2 for NEXTSTEP!
No way can I justify $800 or whatever for an upgrade.
If I had Intel hardware and I had a real serious need to use
Frame on Intel, then I guess I would have no choice. It's a
shame. I'd like the fixes, and I'd like the option of
running on Intel, but I can't justify more than about $200
for the upgrade, based on my current usage, and even then
I'd be very upset about the price.
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: aebersol@titan.admin.gettysburg.edu (Dennis R. Aebersold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tailor and pdf
Date: 24 Feb 1995 21:24:10 GMT
Organization: Gettysburg College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ilipq$b65@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
I started the Acrobat thread and several of you suggested using Tailor to
read pdf files. I can't make it work. Any help would be appreciated.
-dennis
aebersold@gettysburg.edu
From: dkoski@sun34.cs.wisc.edu (David Koski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: JPEG Viewer
Date: 24 Feb 1995 17:57:02 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept
Message-ID: <3il6le$j5@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <1995Feb24.122146.2240@opalo>
In article <1995Feb24.122146.2240@opalo>,
Jose Antonio Blanco Riera <chapi@trasgu.aic.uniovi.es> wrote:
>I am looking for a JPEG Viewer (and/or a converter from/to TIFF if
>possible).
There is FastView 1.3. It loads jpg files, although you cannot save to TIFF
(or anything else for that matter). You can get it at
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/graphics/FastView-1.3.NIHS.b.tar.gz
If you need to convert to TIFF, try ImageViewer (also in the same place).
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: Is SLIP/PPP a Pain with NS 3.3?
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Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 04:30:03 GMT
I finally ordered a copy of the NS 3.3 Academic bundle the other day.
Assuming I can get the hardware to work properly, I would like to know how
much trouble it is to get a SLIP or PPP connection working with NeXT Step.
I have surfed a few WWW sites that have a NS SLIP, but no PPP. That
doesn't matter that much, but is it pretty much point and click. I have a
standard internal 14.4K US Robotics Sportster modem, and I know all the
relevant IP addresses. My provider supports SLIP, CSLIP and PPP.
Also, does my mail use the same POP3 server that I use for regular mail?
What it boils down to is that I want to minimize downtime in
sending/receiving NeXT Mail, reading news and surfing the Web. Any
comments or suggestions that would help me avoid the common pitfalls
would be appreciated. Thanks in advance,
Matt Webster
From: David Pascua <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC II
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 03:07:22 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <MjHNCuK00YWnA3P0o4@andrew.cmu.edu>
Has anyone out there successfully compiled IRC II for NeXT 3.2 on black?
I just tried it using the 'easy install' and I go the following:
cc -g -O -posix -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o irc alias.o crypt.o ctcp.o dcc.o
debug.o edit.o exec.o flood.o funny.o help.o history.o hold.o hook.o
if.o ignore.o input.o irc.o ircaux.o ircsig.o keys.o lastlog.o list.o
log.o mail.o menu.o names.o newio.o notice.o notify.o numbers.o output.o
parse.o queue.o reg.o scandir.o screen.o server.o stack.o status.o
term.o translat.o vars.o whois.o window.o -ltermcap -lsys_s -lposix
ld: Undefined symbols:
__NXArgc
__NXArgv
__environ
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
So, I thought, before I dig in and try to find out what's going on,
maybe someone's already figured it out....
-Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu (Gary Patton Wolfe)
Subject: Re: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
Message-ID: <D4HwLv.6Ho@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Organization: Washington State University
References: <D44601.3Bt@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 08:22:43 GMT
In article <D44601.3Bt@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell) writes:
> In article <OTTO.95Feb15040545@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J.
> Makela) writes:
> > I've been unable to get a reasonable response from WordPerfect Finland
> > since they were acquired by Novell to the question: we have a blanket site
> > licence for all WP products, can I get a NeXT m68k version of WP? Can
> > anyone help me with a product code or something similar to bug them with?
>
> Last December I called WP and asked for some information on WP for NeXTs
> and for AIX. I needed the info quickly. They promised to fax it to me
> the NeXT :-) day. Three weeks later (now January) I wrote them a letter to
> ask what happened to the information . A week after that they sent the info
> on AIX but they said they had discontinued selling the NeXT version at the
> end of December.
>
> It isn't the same company since Novell took over. :-(
>
> --
> Ed Russell esr@slac.stanford.edu
> Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Palo Alto/Menlo Park, California
What is really annoying about that decision is that fact that WP for NeXT
doesn't support tables...which bites the big one when one wants to import
WP 5.1 for MS-DOS documents with tables in them.
Is there a DTP or plain word processor out there for NeXT that will import
WP5.1 for MS-DOS documents and support the whole works? Could someone
forward that info to me please? Currently I am running SoftPC to run WP5.1
for DOS so I can use old WP documents with tables. Printing is SOOOOOOO
very SLLLOOOOOOWWWWWW :-(
Thanks,
Gary Wolfe
gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac generated Postscript and TeX
Date: 24 Feb 1995 22:49:53 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ilnqh$efm@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3iiams$3on@spool.mu.edu>
J M Schimmels writes
> I'm having a problem with displaying (in TeX on the NeXT) postscript
> documents generated on a Mac (using MATLAB). The Preview app will read
> the files correctly but TeX says that the files exceed the buffer size.
> Any suggestions?
>
without actually seeing one of the files (and you're welcome to NeXTmail
me one so I can make a more informed comment) I am guessing that you have
once again hit the infamous end-of-line black-hole. There are three main
operating systems, and, in an act of genius, each one uses a different end
of line character so that even simple text files (like PS) must be
translated 'tween them. You probably do not have a valid "end of line"
character on a unix system, so the entire file is one line, which exceeds
some line length restriction in TeX.
Take a look at the PS file in Emacs... each line will probably end in ^M
or ^L or some such, Use the unix tr command to change the end of line
characters, or else get one of the conversion utilities off of the
archives to convert between Mac and NeXT format.
I could be more specific, but without seeing the actual file it might be
counterproductive, and with luck the above will tell you what you need to
know.
Hope this helps --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: JPEG Viewer
Message-ID: <D4KJpG.E6o@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <1995Feb24.122146.2240@opalo>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 18:36:52 GMT
Jose Antonio Blanco Riera (chapi@trasgu.aic.uniovi.es) wrote:
: I am looking for a JPEG Viewer (and/or a converter from/to TIFF if
: possible).
Before you decide on a tool, take a look at PixelMagician, Jose. I
just received my copy, and am still comprehending the features it has
to offer. The services it provides to other applications are
countless.
Specifically regarding JPEG, PM can read/write 8-bit grayscale and 24
bit RGB. You have the option to optimize entropy encoding and set the
compression Q-Factor.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: JPEG Viewer
Message-ID: <1995Feb24.122146.2240@opalo>
From: chapi@trasgu.aic.uniovi.es (Jose Antonio Blanco Riera)
Date: 24 Feb 95 12:21:46 +0100
Hi,
I am looking for a JPEG Viewer (and/or a converter from/to TIFF if
possible).
Thanks in advance.
--
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
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| Universidad de Oviedo |: \\ /X\ // :|
| E-Mail : chapi@trasgu.aic.uniovi.es |: \\ // \\ // :|
| trasgu is a NeXT Cube, of course. |: \X/ \X/ :|
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame V4 ???
Date: 24 Feb 1995 15:26:18 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3iktqq$4ei@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3iic20$6hb@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
In article <3iic20$6hb@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
>
> -> So all FM-users: buy FM3.2 for NEXTSTEP!
>
> Firm purchase commitments for FM5 by many NS users would make more
sense.
>
> Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
I agree.
jk <jklinke@ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
From: martin@weigele.de (Martin Weigele)
Subject: File Viewer Problem (black hardware, NeXT STep 3.0)
Message-ID: <1995Feb25.203545.238@weigele.de>
Sender: martin@weigele.de
Organization: M. Weigele
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 20:35:45 GMT
I am having a very strange problem with the Workspace Manager.
After some network installation works and use of CD-Rom (I have no idea if
there is any correlation to the problem) it is no longer possible to create
more than one instance of the File Viewer. Otherwise no problems, except that
the machine occasionally seems a bit slower than usual.
The Command Button of the Workspace "New Viewer" has no effect, except for some
activies on the disk(?). No extra Viewer is created.
Any ideas?
Thanks a lot in advance
Martin
---
Martin Weigele, Kapellenweg 32, D-53179 Bonn 2
phone +49 228 333252 home, +49 228 9361590 office
fax +49 228 334564 home, email: martin@weigele.de - "Intel outside!"
From: perkins@sidney2b (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 23 Feb 1995 22:26:06 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ij21u$1og6@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <D4FHCM.4ny@relief.com>
In article <D4FHCM.4ny@relief.com> jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
writes:
> I think the best solution so far is to have N+1 separate packages on
> the ftp sites (1 for each arch binaries, and one with the other stuff),
> and someone clever with some spare time could write a FatMerge.app that
> glued them back together.
>
This seems to be a materializing consensus. For anyone interested in
writing, I suggest you take a look at the interface to SplitReceiver.app
by Xanthus (available on the local archives). Might be along the lines of
what people would like to see.
Just my $0.02 worth.
- Steve
--
============================================================
Stephen Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP key
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
From: drinke@wc187.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Video App?
Date: 25 Feb 1995 21:50:25 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3io8n1$lak@mordred.gatech.edu>
I seem to recall there being a public-domain video recorder that would work
with a NeXTDimension card on a NeXT cube. You could basically record images
from the RCA video inputs and convert into multiple TIFFs. Anyone know what
I'm talking about, or better yet, where I can find such an animal?
Thanks,
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
.forward -> drinke@wc187.residence.gatech.edu -- Until 3/18/95
From: aho+@pitt.edu (Alan F Ho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: File Viewer Problem (black hardware, NeXT STep 3.0)
Date: 25 Feb 1995 22:17:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <3ioa8t$fen@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <1995Feb25.203545.238@weigele.de>
HELP!
I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.0, on black hardware, and my disk space keeps on
shrinking even though/private/vm/swapfile is not growing! It seems to
start happening within five minutes of logging in after a reboot, even
if I run a mild load (e.g. Terminal and Librarian). And it continues
to shrink even if I don't open any other apps or do anything very
demanding on the computer resources.
Does anyone know why this is happening?
Does anyone know how to stop (fix?) this?
Thanks,
Alan
(I can create new file viewers though. )
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is SLIP/PPP a Pain with NS 3.3?
Date: 25 Feb 1995 15:57:17 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ink0t$6b@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950224232453.24450A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu>
Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> wrote:
>I finally ordered a copy of the NS 3.3 Academic bundle the other day.
>Assuming I can get the hardware to work properly, I would like to
know how
>much trouble it is to get a SLIP or PPP connection working with NeXT
Step.
>I have surfed a few WWW sites that have a NS SLIP, but no PPP. That
>doesn't matter that much, but is it pretty much point and click. I
have a
>standard internal 14.4K US Robotics Sportster modem, and I know all
the
>relevant IP addresses. My provider supports SLIP, CSLIP and PPP.
>Also, does my mail use the same POP3 server that I use for regular
mail?
>What it boils down to is that I want to minimize downtime in
>sending/receiving NeXT Mail, reading news and surfing the Web. Any
>comments or suggestions that would help me avoid the common pitfalls
>would be appreciated. Thanks in advance,
>Matt Webster
I have tried most of the non-commercial SLIP/PPP packages and very
,strongly, recommend only PPP2.2 available from:
ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/
The documentation and examples are quite good. The example scripts
provided allow you to setup PopOver.app to automatically download POP3
E-mail.
I dont yet have a Zyxel 28.8k so I run a Hayes clone at 9600 with
NS3.3.
Felipe A. Rodriguez
far@earthlink.net
From: aho+@pitt.edu (Alan F Ho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Disappearing Memory Problem (black hardware, NeXT STep 3.0)
Date: 26 Feb 1995 03:55:20 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <3iou38$gl9@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <1995Feb25.203545.238@weigele.de> <3ioa8t$fen@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
Help!
What is /private/etc/swapfile.front? I just watched it grow from 0 to
20 megs while my file viewer reports I only lost .2 megs!
Moreover, when swapfile.front is selected in the FileViewer, I am told
there are "25.2MB available on _foreign_ disk". (my emphasis). I
didn't realize I had a foreign disk. Is there a way to get rid of it?
When I do 'df' at a terminal prompt, I get the following:
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd0a 402253 336264 25763 93% /
/private/vm/swapfile 402253 336264 25763 93% /private/vm/swapfile.front
swapfile should not be a filesystem like sd0a, should it? And why is
it identical to sd0a?
If someone could shed light on what is going on and how to fix this,
I'd much appreciate it. Thank you,
Alan
aho+@pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Message-ID: <jlemonD4LE2G.Brr@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <1995Feb20.000309.5018@dagobah.fdn.fr> <3ib8it$nq1@usenet.rpi.edu> <Pine.HPP.3.91.950224142252.4919D-100000@hphalle4a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 05:32:40 GMT
Sender: jlemon@netcom22.netcom.com
In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.950224142252.4919D-100000@hphalle4a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>,
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
>On 20 Feb 1995, Garance A. Drosehn wrote:
>> > foreach ARCH (m68k i386 hppa sparc)
>>
>> Intel binaries can be either i386 or i486 architectures. Different
>> files in a single app-wrapper might differ in whether the intel part
>> is 386 or 486.
>>
>There is one question I always wanted to ask:
>
>cc provides the i486 flag, which should prodcue better (faster?) code for
>i486/i586 processors. All sources I catch from the net, are compiling for
>i386. As far as I know, there is no NS for the i386!? So why the hell is
>everybody using the i386 instead of i486 flag?! Are there any caveats
>which should prevent someony from using the i486 compiler option?
Probably not. As you said, there is no NS for the i386. The i386 designation
really refers to the architecture, in this case, not the processor support.
The differences between the i386, i486 and i586 are pretty small as compared
to those between the i286 and i386.
However, it's a little more complicated than that. Each mach-o executable
has two flags to determine the architecture, which enables it to differentiate
between an i486, i386, i586, 68030, 68040, hp825, hp835, and so forth.
Now, a separate binary for each of these processor models may be present in
the MAB file, and the system automatically chooses the closest representation
for the current system. IE: if the above file with 7 different binaries is
run on a hp840, it might pick the hp835 as the closest representation.
In the arch packer/unpacker I'm writing at the moment, the above MAB file
would result in 3 architecture dependent files: one each for HP, NeXT + Intel.
Each would contain the executables for the specified type of architecture.
This way, when someone goes to merge in "I"ntel support, it would merge in
both i486 and i586 binaries, if both happened to exist in the Intel MAB
file.
I really doubt that this is going to be a problem in practice, since I don't
think people actually compile twice for the same architecture.
--
Jonathan
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: vt100 based news reader for NextStep 3.2
Date: 26 Feb 1995 07:11:16 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ip9ik$pvt@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Does anyone know where I can get a vt100 terminal based news reader which
will compile under NextStep 3.2? NewsGrazer is great, but I want to read
news when I'm away from my NeXT.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: drinke@wc187.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: vt100 based news reader for NextStep 3.2
Date: 26 Feb 1995 08:07:04 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ipcr8$gl1@mordred.gatech.edu>
References: <3ip9ik$pvt@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Todd Takken (takken@raven.stanford.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know where I can get a vt100 terminal based news reader which
: will compile under NextStep 3.2? NewsGrazer is great, but I want to read
: news when I'm away from my NeXT.
I have both 'rn' and 'tin' compiled for NS 3.1. Both work fine under the
standard unix login (I have many unix only login users). I compiled both
generic unix sources with little changes. Mail me if you want the (NS 3.1
NeXT Moto) binary code.
Always willing to help,
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
.forward -> drinke@wc187.residence.gatech.edu -- Until 3/18/95
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Getting auctex running under NS
Message-ID: <D4LqoG.C9t@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 10:05:03 GMT
Is anybody out there running auctex, the set of Emacs macros for editing
TeX/LaTeX files under NEXTSTEP? If so, I'd be interested in any installation
suggestions that you might have, since following the directions in the
included README files got me nowhere on the first try. There was an unspecific
mention in one of them that NeXT emacs was 'broken.' I'm running NS 3.2
with Carl Edman's NS-ified Emacs.app.
Any suggestions on how to get this package working are appreciated.
--
Jerry Kuch EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca
"GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN" will be released
IMPORTANT NEWS: in Japan on March 11th, one week earlier than the
original March 18th release date.
From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw (JesseH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP on NeXTStep/Intel
Date: 26 Feb 1995 13:25:23 GMT
Organization: Div.Cardiology, National Defense Medical Center
Message-ID: <3ipvg3$8de@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
I have got the unsupported PPP shareware and installed it successfully.
But I could never get it to work- it never upload during restart as the
readme file stated. what should I do next?
Simon Chih-L Han MB
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Div. of Cardiovascular Medicine
National Defense Medical Center
What will be the
future?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????The future is
now....................................
From: Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer crashes, what is wrong?
Date: 26 Feb 1995 13:25:44 GMT
Organization: University of Constance, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ipvgo$dpv@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
Newsgrazer 3.75 crahes just after starting. what is wrong?
TIM Mueller-Seydlitz
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options - Suggestions
Date: 26 Feb 1995 16:01:54 GMT
Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iq8li$pok@pong.ping.at>
References: <3iguh8$1mn@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
Originator: wa@s051
In article <3iguh8$1mn@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com> Bruce Gingery
<bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes:
> First the alternative not mentioned. Most of the comp.sources.*
> archives CHUNK all submissions down to between 64k and 256k depending
> on site, per submission, keeping the chunks (part01...partNN) in a
> subdirectory. This allows people with limited time and slow links
> to still obtain the content, though perhaps over a few days.
Just another possibility that was also not mentioned: augment ftp servers
and clients with the possibility to restart a interrupted transfer
withouth re-transmitting bytes that already have been sent. Compuserve
already has this feature, and it saves a lot of connection time there.
- Wolfgang
--
Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at
Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690
A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817
Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Getting auctex running under NS
Date: 26 Feb 1995 18:44:28 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <3iqi6c$iq8@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <D4LqoG.C9t@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Jerry Kuch (gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: Is anybody out there running auctex, the set of Emacs macros for editing
: TeX/LaTeX files under NEXTSTEP?
Yes. Version 9.2y of auctex (and before some other).
: If so, I'd be interested in any installation
: suggestions that you might have, since following the directions in the
: included README files got me nowhere on the first try.
Can you be more specific?
: There was an unspecific
: mention in one of them that NeXT emacs was 'broken.'
Eh? Don't know anything about it.
: I'm running NS 3.2
: with Carl Edman's NS-ified Emacs.app.
I run 19.28.1 for NeXT which is NOT officially released version.
It has, from time to time, some problems with menus, but nothing really
of a show stopper kind.
: Any suggestions on how to get this package working are appreciated.
I added the following to my tex-site.el
(defun TeX-NXcommand (command tail)
"rewrite TeX command adjusting it to an implementation on NeXT"
(concat command (and tail
(concat
(and (or window-system (getenv "Workspace")) " -V") " " tail))))
A comment. NeXT used to have an environment variable, namely "Workspace",
which indicated if you are logged on from a console of from somewhere
else. Later, in their infinite wisdom, they decided to break it without
leaving anything else in place. Because this is important to me I am
doing strange hacks in my startup files to get that info back. It mostly
works for my particular setup, but it is not guaranteed to be valid.
The above elisp function is used like follows:
(defvar TeX-command-list
(list (list "TeX" (TeX-NXcommand "tex" "'\\nonstopmode\\input %t'")
'TeX-run-TeX nil t)
(list "TeX Interactive" (TeX-NXcommand "tex" "%t")
'TeX-run-interactive nil t)
(list "LaTeX" (TeX-NXcommand "latex" "'\\nonstopmode\\input{%t}'")
'TeX-run-LaTeX nil t)
(list "LaTeX Interactive" (TeX-NXcommand "%l" "%t")
'TeX-run-interactive nil t)
(list "LaTeX2e" (TeX-NXcommand "latex" "'\\nonstopmode\\input{%t}'")
'TeX-run-LaTeX nil t)
(if (or window-system (getenv "Workspace"))
(list "View" (TeX-NXcommand "%v " nil) 'TeX-run-background t nil)
(list "View" "dvi2tty -q -w 132 %s " 'TeX-run-command t nil))
(list "Print" "%p " 'TeX-run-command t nil)
(list "Queue" "%q" 'TeX-run-background nil nil)
(list "File" "dvips %d -o %f " 'TeX-run-command t nil)
(list "BibTeX" "bibtex %s" 'TeX-run-BibTeX nil nil)
(list "Index" "makeindex %s" 'TeX-run-command nil t)
(list "Check" "lacheck %s" 'TeX-run-compile nil t)
(list "Spell" "<ignored>" 'TeX-run-ispell nil nil)
(list "Other" "" 'TeX-run-command t t)
;; Not part of standard TeX.
(list "Makeinfo" "makeinfo %t" 'TeX-run-compile nil t)
(list "AmSTeX" "amstex '\\nonstopmode\\input %t'"
'TeX-run-TeX nil t))
"*List of commands to execute on the current document.
.....
Since I have only one printer then (defvar TeX-printer-list nil) and
TeX-view-style list is reduced to the following one entry
'(("." "open %d"))
That is about it beyond missing (interactive) in a definition of
(TeX-home-buffer) - tex-buf.el - and some private hacks.
Michal
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 24 Feb 1995 19:05:36 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ils8g$itu@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <D48oB8.GF@cicero.ping.de> <D4FHCM.4ny@relief.com>
jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) writes:
>I think the best solution so far is to have N+1 separate packages on the ftp
>sites (1 for each arch binaries, and one with the other stuff), and someone
>clever with some spare time could write a FatMerge.app that glued them back
>together.
>Any Takers
How about NeXT making Installer.app smart enough to do this. This should be
easy for them and really is the best solution. Why? Because they rely on the
net for a great deal of distribution (i.e. NeXTanswers) and the newsgroups for
info--so as a nice way of providing their users with support they should roll
this fat binary card shuffling ability into Installer.app.
This way you could just open up the general non binary installer pkg file and
hit install, then Installer.app would search the same directory for any other
parts (i.e. applicable binaries for the nibs/shell of the app) and you could
just check off the architectures you like just as you normally do. The only
difference is that Installer.app would do all the shuffling for you.
Just a thought.
Later, John
From: shunfemd@rest.tasc.com (Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do I PRINT 2-UP from within Edit.App??
Date: 23 Feb 1995 19:56:07 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <3iip8n$qfa@viper.is.rest.tasc.com>
References: <3i5a0n$rbm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <3i5a0n$rbm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lasmith@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lones
A Smith) writes:
>
> Hi,
> Subject says it all.
Sure is. First start the Edit app and click on Info> Preferences>User options
and click on Developer Mode. Save the configuration and restart Edit. This
enables the Utilities menu.
Click on Utilities> User commands, and a menu of user-configurable commands
appears. The default copy of the file '.commanddict', which contains these
commands, comes with the two-up printing utility. You can add more if you
wish.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Message-ID: <D4FHCM.4ny@relief.com>
Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Organization: Relief Consulting & Development
References: <D48oB8.GF@cicero.ping.de>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 00:57:58 GMT
In article <D48oB8.GF@cicero.ping.de> dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
writes:
> In article <9502170336.AA01333@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J
Luoma)
> writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> : The idea of having FTP sites with separate binaries is a tough
> : question. At Allegheny, we have some m68k, some HP and some Intels.
> : So conceivably, someone might want all three architectures, but not
> : for Sparcs. Someone else might only want m68k and Intel. Can the
> : average FTP site handle so many different sets? I don't know, but I
> : tend to doubt it. (I do agree that they all should be using gzip
> : rather than compress though, no matter what else they do). Who
> : would be responsible for making all of the sets? Will future
>
> In my opinion the most (home) users want to get _only_one_ of the listed
> architectures. For them it would be best to download the appropriate
bundle.
> The other ones can still download the MAB and lipo out the binaries they
> don't want. (Of course this would mean more disk space "wasted" on the ftp
> archives).
>
Au contraire! I have two machines at home, one m68k and one i486. I may
very well have a sparc here soon, so I need fat apps.
I think the best solution so far is to have N+1 separate packages on the ftp
sites (1 for each arch binaries, and one with the other stuff), and someone
clever with some spare time could write a FatMerge.app that glued them back
together.
Any takers....
--
John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com
Relief Consulting & Development (206) 743-3953
4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!!
Edmonds, WA 98026-4433 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sendmail
Date: 23 Feb 1995 22:24:01 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3ij1u1$3i9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello all --
In the interest of improving security on my system, I would like to move
sendmail to operating under inetd, and place a tcp wrapper around it,
providing much more control and log information.
Are there any reasons I should not do this? I noticed that one nice option
-- -q[time], which processes the queue every so many [time] -- appears to
only work when sendmail runs as a daemon. Any way I can fix this so that it
processes the queue hourly despite the fact it runs from inetd?
Thanks in advance! Please reply to here or by mail to
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu.
-- John
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | You can live only once, but
4th Year Computer Engineering | if you do it right, once is
Case Western Reserve Univ. | enough.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Unknown
______________________________|_____________________________
"Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied
them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with
computers, and nobody thinks of complaining."
-- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in
Doctor Dobb's Journal
____________________________________________________________
From: jmitchell@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jonathan Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: World Map software for NS??
Date: 26 Feb 1995 14:52 EDT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26FEB199514520593@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
I am looking for PD mapping software that I can incorporate into an
app I am thinking of writing.
I am thinking of displaying a world map and displaying points on the
map. I would need to be able to plot on the map using latitude,longitude
coordinates.
I have heard of World Data Bank based mapping software and have seen
it working under X. Has anyone used this with NS?
Any other PD mapping solutions?
Thanks!
-- Jon
-----
"I have a simple philosophy. Fill what's empty.
Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches." Jon Mitchell
-- Alice Longworth Roosevelt jmitchell@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: compression.bundle
Message-ID: <D4H5F7.2A6@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <3ih1an$1q5@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 22:35:30 GMT
Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes
> In article <MAGNUS.95Feb22184954@darwin.uchicago.edu>
> magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) writes:
> }~ Has anyone written a "replacement" bundle for
> }~ "/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/compression.bundle" that uses
> }~ gzip instead of compress? Would it be possible? I find that I never
> }~ use the compression utility in Workspace because I want to have
> }~ things as compressed as possible.
>
> dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip
>
> But I don't recommend the "compress" equivalent if you're
> interoperating with ANYONE else, even NeXTmail! On the other hnd, you
It's not that bad. 1st. NeXTmail uses compress and nothing else. (Implying that
sending compressed files as NeXTmail will make them take up twice the space
(partly for uuencode and partly for compress adding 30% size when the input is
already compressed). When you send someone a .compressed file and the other
cannot read it with workspace he or she can set the same dwrites or say:
gnutar zxvf DIR_OR_FILE.compressed
in a shell window. I am using the gzip compress all the time and I interact
with many people. No problem.
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 23 Feb 1995 22:15:27 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3ij1dv$odt@castle.york.ac.uk>
References: <3hrths$b0@news1.wolfe.net>
irving@Wolfe.NET (Irving_Wolfe) writes:
> Sorry about this, I know I've lost it. But SEVEN MEGABYTES for a
> silly little system utility! Wow! You guys are nuts!
Hmm, was this stripped ? Normal MAb stuff isn't that big. My latest
MAB app is 6.5MB before stipping and just over 500k affterwards. Its
NeXTs H--U--G--E symbol table which seems to be taking up all the
space. One upon a time when disc was scarce everything was stripped,
nowadays people dont seem to bother :-(
-bat.
From: smurfett@gershwin.mills.edu (Nancy Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: News Grazer
Date: 26 Feb 1995 21:25:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3iqrk0$79s@agate.berkeley.edu>
I'd heard that there is a new version of News Grazer out there.
Does anyone know where to get it?
thanks!
--
smurfett@ella.mills.edu
From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .gz help`
Date: 27 Feb 1995 10:53:27 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <3ir49n$1gr@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
References: <3i32t5$2to@einstein.physics.ucla.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu (Rick Vazquez) writes:
>When I download files form cs.orst.edu in XNeXT dir, I uncompress them but nothing but a text file appears?? Do I have this file a run is through CUBX, can some one help??
Files with .gz are in zip format, generally created with gzip or similar.
I seem to remember something about gunzip only recognising the first file
in a multi-file archive - try reading the man page.
If my memory serves me correctly, there should be another command that
comes in the same suite as gzip, called 'unzip', that does recognise
multi-file archives and unzips things correctly. Try a man on it to
see.
Hope I've helped.
--
=============================================================================
Craig Smith cs@kau1.kodak.com
(61 3) 353 2471 | You're looking hale and hearty, little buddy.
Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd | I'm a coffee achiever, Sam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: yann@dagobah.fdn.fr
Subject: Re: tiff whitespace to transparent?
Message-ID: <1995Feb26.234224.2604@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Organization: Individual
References: <3ifnek$6mt@castle.york.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 23:42:24 GMT
pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) writes:
: sela@iastate.edu writes:
: >
: > Does anybody know of a way that I could make the whitespace in a tiff
: > transparent. For example, I use grab to grab a tiff that is on a white
: > background. How can I convert that white background to a transparent
: > background now that it is part of the tiff?
: I've always done this by hand in Iconbuilder - if you've got anything
: opther than a simple backgroudn then it's a right pain to do though.
: Writing a program to load in a tiff and change all of a particular colour
: to transparent shouldn't be a problem though - the tiff object is
: very easy to use in normal C program (niot Apps).
:
: -bat.
How about the following procedure in IconBuilder:
- open your tiff
- Command-Shift-P -> check for alpha channels (transparency bits)
- Command-Shift-C -> uncheck "Paint in Overlay mode"
- select 0% opacity (full transparency)
- Use the fill-tool and click in the white area
- save
- enjoy your transparency !
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Yann LECHELLE - Edge Seeker yann@dagobah.fdn.fr | y_lechelle@effix.fr
25, rue Bosquet - Paris, France +NeXT/MIME +m68k/hppa +PS/TIFF/JPG/GIF/..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.95Feb26163654@freedom.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 21:36:53 GMT
Here are a few undocumented features of Mail.app 3.3 which I
discovered with gdb. Some may already exist in older versions of
Mail.app, but for most I doubt it. This is the list of the dwrites,
their meaning and some typical values.
dwrite Mail BigPieChart YES
dwrite Mail BigPieChartColor Green
In combination these two dwrites grow the mail receipt progress
indicator in the Mail.app icon from stamp size to full size. They
also allow you to set the color.
dwrite Mail DisplayFilter "/tmp/snoop"
This one is neat. If it is set to the full path of an executable,
every time a mail message is displayed, it is first piped through this
executable. In principle you can use this hook to allow Mail.app to
display absolutely any message type.
dwrite Mail DoubleClickRestores YES
dwrite Mail RestrictedRestore NO
If these are set double clicking on a message calls up a Compose
window with that message in it, just like "Restore Draft" does. The
second dwrite allows you to do this in any mailbox, not you the drafts
mailbox.
dwrite Mail LoadNetInfoAddresses NO
This adds the users and aliases from netinfo into the addresses window.
dwrite Mail SpacePages YES
Simple, but useful. With this dwrite hitting space in a mailbox
window advances the message one screen, jumping from message to
message as needed.
dwrite Mail StatusLine YES
Don't like the new 3.3 mailbox status line ? This dwrite kills it.
dwrite Mail ComposeStatusLine YES
dwrite Mail DelayedComposeUpdateSize NO
dwrite Mail ComposeSizeDelay 0
These dwrites give every compose window a status line as well which
contains the size of the current message.
dwrite Mail NXCommandKeys "Page Layout...,.,Encryption Keys...,E,Sort by Date,D,Sort by Name,N,Sort by Number,.,Sort by Subject,S,Deliver,.,Reply,.,Reply All,.,Forward,.,Get New Mail,G,Search,.,Restore Draft,r,Sort by Size,Z,Show All Headers,t,Font Panel...,."
This is not really a Mail.app specific dwrite, but I find it useful in
particular with Mail.app. It modifies the command key equivalents.
dwrite Mail SendSizeLimit 1000000000
If you try to send a message longer than this number (in kBytes), you
will be querried by Mail.app.
dwrite Mail TocFont Helvetica
dwrite Mail TocFontSize 12
Font and size for the table of contents.
dwrite Mail Debug YES
Enables some additional information about Mail.app in the console.
dwrite Mail Encrypt YES
Causes messages to be set to be encrypted by default.
dwrite Mail ReadReceipt NO
Does the same for ReadReceipts.
dwrite Mail 24HourClock NO
This selects whether the clock in the mailbox window is a 12 hour or a
24 hour clock.
dwrite Mail ActiveMailbox "Active.mbox"
dwrite Mail DraftsMailbox "Drafts.mbox"
dwrite Mail OutgoingMailbox "Outgoing.mbox"
These dwrites change the names of the standard mailboxes which
Mail.app refers to.
dwrite Mail PeopleDir "/LocalLibrary/Images/People"
This is the directory where Mail.app looks for images to be displayed.
dwrite Mail CompressCommand ""
dwrite Mail TarCommand ""
I believe these two dwrites allow you to alter the tar and compress
commands used by NeXTmail.
dwrite Mail IconFont ""
dwrite Mail IconFontSize ""
dwrite Mail ShowIconCount "YES"
These three dwrites allow you to change the font and size of the
number of unread messages displayed in the Mail.app window. Or to
disable this feature completely.
dwrite Mail LoadBundles YES
dwrite Mail PriorityValues ""
dwrite Mail PriorityHeader ""
dwrite Mail MailFilter1 ""
dwrite Mail AutoCompact ""
dwrite Mail IncAllMailboxes ""
dwrite Mail AutoSelectFont ""
dwrite Mail CCPollTime 0.1
dwrite Mail MailMarker "Subject:From:To:Cc:Attachment:Date:Reply-To:Sender:In-Reply-To"
dwrite Mail RemoteFetch ""
dwrite Mail Send8BitMime ""
dwrite Mail SendRtfEnrichedMime ""
dwrite DatabaseKit DBKitBundlePath ""
These dwrites intrigue me, and seem to have some effect, but I have
not yet figured out what exactly they do. If you can explain some of
them, please let me know. But if you find any of these features
publicly documented anywhere, please keep it to yourself.
Carl Edman
From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Date: 27 Feb 1995 09:43:26 +1100
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <3ir06e$11j@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
References: <1995Feb15.232332.6258@bMD.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
kevins@bmd.com writes:
>any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc. I'm having a hell of a
>time getting this to work and tech support at Insignia is not too helpful
>help me
>---
>Kevin Solie
>
>Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
>Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
I've had similar problems with softpc - I think my problems have something
to do with the DOS partitions being AFTER the NS partition. I have to
find time to repartition stuff so that the DOS partitions are first before
I can prove this one way or the other.
--
=============================================================================
Craig Smith cs@kau1.kodak.com
(61 3) 353 2471 | You're looking hale and hearty, little buddy.
Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd | I'm a coffee achiever, Sam
From: kjt@copper.cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner (Staff))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
Date: 26 Feb 1995 22:42:59 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3ir05j$42e@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
References: <D477Mn.88@vergil.ping.de>
In article <D477Mn.88@vergil.ping.de> writes:
> In article <D45oGK.31C@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko) writes:
> > I've sent several messages over the past week to DaRT regarding a new
> version
> > of DOTs and other issues, but haven't received *any* response. Are
they
> > still around? or don't they bother to support existing customers.
> >
> > Tim
>
Well I've managed to communicate with them by patience! Frustrated
customers might like to contact the developer:
Name Fax
Office Address Email
-------------------------------- --------------------------
Federico Heinz
Hohenfriedbergstrasse 11 +49-30-784-9964
W-1000 BERLIN 62
Germany federico@heinz.in-berlin.de
Ken Turner
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Scripts
Date: 27 Feb 1995 02:56:35 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3irf13$c43@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995Feb25.003752.12634@dagobah.fdn.fr>
yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle) writes:
> Garance A. Drosehn said there was a problem for i486 binaries...
> I've never seen any i486 binaries! How does that compare to i386
> binaries? Should they co-exist with i386 binaries???
I know Concurrence (from Lighthouse Design) has multiple executable
files, and some of them come up as i386 while others come up as
i486. I'm pretty sure I've seem the same kind of thing happen with
various freebee applications I've picked up off ftp sites.
Given that I keep bugging people to agree to *exactly* what I want,
I guess I should at least prove a script that breaks an application
up that way... I've been playing with such a script off and on
for months, so I'll post that as a separate, rich-text, article.
It's called lipo_check, and it's a pretty weird script. It started
out as something to just check a directory for executables, based
on the same kind of logic as Scott Hess used in his Lipo-related
services (in the TickleServices package). So, what started as a
simple script is now pretty involved.
You'd run it as:
lipo_check -auto Directory version
eg:
lipo_check -auto /LocalApps/Opener.app 3.2
and it'll create a set of tar.gz archive files. If you don't
include the "-auto" part, then it just tells you what executables
it finds, and which platforms are in the executables. It also
creates the commands which *could* be source-d to create the
archives.
Note that the "Directory" name probably has to be a fully-qualified
name. The script has worked OK whenever I've tried it on something,
but just about every time I try it I end up making more changes to
the script.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Scripts (rich text)
Date: 27 Feb 1995 02:58:01 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3irf3q$c47@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995Feb25.003752.12634@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Here's the lipo_check script:
= lipo_check
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Scripts (uuencode)
Date: 27 Feb 1995 02:59:13 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3irf61$c4h@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995Feb25.003752.12634@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Hmm. Maybe I should have sent a uuencoded version instead.
Here's lipo_check again, uuencoded. I think this would be
as easily-processed by newsgrazer as rich-text is (since I'm
only including a single file), but it should also be more
convenient for other news readers.
; ---
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Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Luis Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
Date: 27 Feb 1995 20:10:08 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3itbj0$8q3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3ir05j$42e@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
In article <3ir05j$42e@lorne.stir.ac.uk> kjt@copper.cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner
(Staff)) writes:
> Well I've managed to communicate with them by patience! Frustrated
> customers might like to contact the developer:
>
> Name Fax
> Office Address Email
> -------------------------------- --------------------------
>
> Federico Heinz
> Hohenfriedbergstrasse 11 +49-30-784-9964
> W-1000 BERLIN 62
> Germany federico@heinz.in-berlin.de
>
> Ken Turner
In order to contact the developer try better at
Federico Heinz
federico@heinz.com
Benigno Acosta 4528
Villa Centenario
5009 - Cordoba
ARGENTINA
Tel + Fax: +54 51 817597
He is since a very long time no more in Germany.
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Scripts
Date: 27 Feb 1995 03:25:36 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
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References: <1995Feb25.003752.12634@dagobah.fdn.fr>
(assuming there's still someone out there who is following this
thread...)
Here's another example of using lipo_check. The guys at Hutchison
Avenue Software have a nice little shareware application called
Phone.app (I pick on it because it looks pretty useful, and because
I think it was the first application which was put up on the archives
as quad-fat...).
They distribute it as a package, so people have a way to thin the
binary (using Installer.app) when installing it. All that is in
the package is the single application directory, and (of course)
the receipt for it. Note the NeXTSTEP package format uses compress
(instead of gzip).
So they made available a:
-r--r--r-- 1308311 Feb 20 01:39 Phone-3.4.mihs.tar.gz
If I install that with all four architectures, and then use
lipo_check on it, I end up with:
-r--r--r-- 346433 Feb 26 20:37 Phone-3.4c-H.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 318183 Feb 26 20:37 Phone-3.4c-I.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 308329 Feb 26 20:37 Phone-3.4c-N.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 330101 Feb 26 20:37 Phone-3.4c-S.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 933681 Feb 26 20:36 Phone-3.4c_NIHS.tar.gz
Thus, for someone who wants only one architecture, going the
lipo_check route saves almost one megabyte in the amount of info
that needs to be downloaded. Once again this uses up more disk
space on the ftp-server itself, but anyone who downloads the
application will have less information to transfer.
Of course, anyone who wants more than one architecture but
doesn't want all four architectures has a little bit more
work to do than they would with the NeXTSTEP-package format.
They'd have to have something else (TickleServices, perhaps)
which would thin the NIHS version down to what they wanted.
As long as I've took the time to use lipo_check on this, I've
made the result available at eclipse.its.rpi.edu, in directory
NeXT/Phone_f. Mainly though I'm just interested in running
some experiments, to see what the best way to handle these
multi-architecture binaries would be.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: hanleyd@vax.sbu.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RE: tiff whitespace to transparent
Message-ID: <1995Feb27.152947.9448@vax.sbu.ac.uk>
Date: 27 Feb 95 15:29:47 GMT
Organization: South Bank University
To convert tiff whitespace to transparent try:
URL http://www.galcit.caltech.edu/~ta/tgif/tgif.html
Whoops, that's for .gif's. Convert the tiff to gif first? :-)
Regards
Dan Hanley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Help! Tyring to create an internet server using NeXT
References: <rtabibia.notes-2302950359160001@pcmag2.zdlabs.ziff.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:59:43 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Feb27.105943.2897@proximus.north.de>
In article <rtabibia.notes-2302950359160001@pcmag2.zdlabs.ziff.com>,
R. Tabibian <rtabibia.notes@mail.zd.ziff.com> wrote:
>I am trying to create a full fledged internet server using NeXTStep 3.3.
>However, I am not sure where I can get all the tools that I am looking
>for. Is there anyone out there that is using NeXT as their internet
>server? If so I would appreciate any help in this matter.
>
>Tools I am looking for:
>
>HTTP Server
Get the CERN httpd 3.0. Compiles right out of the box, the doc explains all
steps for NEXTSTEP installation. It was developed on a NeXT. Also the CERN
server supports caching, I _think_ other servers do not.
It runs on my home (this) machine and I am very happy with it.
>DNS Server
Is not the NeXT already set up for doing DNS resolving? At least I can find
named(8)
nslookup(8)
resolver(3)
and all the other needed stuff on my machine. However I do not have BIND
running, so you should ask someone else who does. It should be no trouble,
though. But I guess the named is not needed, as Netinfo should do the job.
>Gopher Server
>NNTP Server
Should compile.
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Hidden treasures in 3.3
References: <3iimlr$5vq@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 11:07:51 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Feb27.110751.2998@proximus.north.de>
In article <3iimlr$5vq@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>,
Gregor Hoffleit <flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
[...]
>User templates in UserManager.app are really fine for me as sysadmin,
>but
Just aside: Don't use UserManager in German. The Group.nib is corrupt.
>- Is there anybody but Carl Edman who has noticed that "zsh" is finally
>aboard in 3.3 ?
[...]
Me. But it is a rather old version. ;-)
[...]
>Please feel free to add to this list.
For many NEXTSTEP: try "/bin/ls -v".
Gerhard.
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is SLIP_920904?
Date: 27 Feb 1995 16:37:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3isv4m$7u1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
I can't seem to locate the most recent version.
Thanks - Jon
--
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Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: TheMasterr@aol.com (PC Dork)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [I] Where's a good place to get NeXT software
Date: 24 Feb 1995 04:25:42 GMT
Organization: My, myself, and I
Message-ID: <TheMasterr-2302952030110001@mac1006.kip.apple.com>
Hello all,
Well I don't actually have NeXT, but I have MachTen for the Mac which is
essentially a BSD4.3 UNIX on top of Mach2.0 Kernal. I would like to
collect software that will compile will for BSD4.3/Mach2.0 systems, i.e.
MachTen and NeXTStep.
So does anyone know of any ftp sites to get software. I hoping to gather
a lot of ported software and also software that'll make use of Mach2.0
threads and other services.
Please email any sites you know of.
- thanx,
Dan
PS - Has anyone heard anything about the NeXT port to PPC systems? Will
there be one?
--
"I am Pentium of Borg, you will be approximated."
From: Eric_Litman@nxstep.com (Eric A. Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SURVEY: Network simulation and modelling package
Date: 27 Feb 1995 12:08:49 -0600
Organization: Viaduct, Inc.
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9502271804.AA11620@nxstep.com>
I'm working with a company who produces a high-end network simulation and
modelling tool. The package is currently available under Solaris, HP/UX, and
IRIX, and will soon be expanding to support other platforms. I am looking for
market support to justify a port of this product to OpenStep as both a tactical
and strategic maneuver for the organization, and would like to get some
feedback from the USENET-reading NeXTSTEP community. If your job, or the job of
a colleague of yours, is network engineering, management, design, planning, or
implementation, please take a moment to read about the product and respond as
appropriate.
Thank you.
Eric Litman
Product Information
This application allows one to model at the protocol layer a network of ANY
size or degree of complexity to a very fine grain of detail. Simulations can be
built manually using an intuitive drag-and-drop interface, or automatically
by the simulator given a few rapid inputs for the user.
Currently supported protocols include:
o Ethernet o IP
o FDDI o TCP
o Token Ring o UDP
o X.25 o ICMP
o HDLC o OSPF
BGP4, RIP, ATM, Frame Relay, SMDS, wireless and satellite protocols are
planned for upcoming releases, as is interoperability with HP OpenView.
This tool is ideally suited to an organization with a new, growing, or changing
network. Applications for the tool include modelling the effects of a new
database on a given LAN segment, viewing how the addition of a new remote site
on your WAN will change overall bandwidth requirements, etc.
If you have use for such a tool, and are interested in its availability
under OpenStep, please reply to this message at elitman@nxstep.com, or call
me at (301) 587-0600.
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Scripts (rich text)
Date: 28 Feb 1995 04:42:41 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iu9k1$134@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3irf3q$c47@usenet.rpi.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3irf3q$c47@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance
A. Drosehn) writes:
-> Here's the lipo_check script:
One quick suggestion...
< LipoDIR="/tmp/lipo-`/usr/ucb/whoami`"
> LipoDIR="/tmp/lipo-`/usr/ucb/whoami`$$"
I haven't thoroughly studied through the complete flow of the
script.
Bruce
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Date: 28 Feb 1995 04:58:49 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3iuaia$13o@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3ir16o$43v@usenet.rpi.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3ir16o$43v@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance
A. Drosehn) writes:
}~ jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) writes:
}~ > Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
}~ > >On 20 Feb 1995, Garance A. Drosehn wrote:
}~ > >> Someone else wrote:
}~ > >> > foreach ARCH (m68k i386 hppa sparc)
}~ > >>
}~ > >> Intel binaries can be either i386 or i486 architectures.
}~ > >> Different files in a single app-wrapper might differ in whether
}~ > >> the intel part is 386 or 486.
v3.2 lipo (m68k) and 3.2 developer cc understands...
m68k
m68030
m68040
m98k
m88k
i386
i486
i486SX
i586
i586SX
i860
and reports all others as (cputype (%d) cpusubtype (%d))
including hppa, sparc...
Ref: /NextDeveloper/Headers/mach/machine.h for one.
I presume that these will increase, hence should be included into any
script or binary from an editable table.
Bruce
}~ > > cc provides the i486 flag, which should prodcue better (faster?)
}~ > > code for i486/i586 processors. All sources I catch from the
}~ > > net, are compiling for i386. As far as I know, there is no NS
}~ > > for the i386!? So why the hell is everybody using the i386
}~ > > instead of i486 flag?! Are there any caveats which should
}~ > > prevent someony from using the i486 compiler option?
}~ >
}~ > Probably not. As you said, there is no NS for the i386. The
}~ > i386 designation really refers to the architecture, in this case,
}~ > not the processor support. The differences between the i386,
}~ > i486 and i586 are pretty small as compared to those between the
}~ > i286 and i386.
}~
}~ Well, before you go too far, you should realize that I'm speaking
}~ from first-hand experience. It is a fact that some binaries will
}~ show up as i386, and others will show up as i486. It has nothing
}~ to do with what the user specifies. It has to do with what library
}~ routines you call. Some routines take advantage (or maybe it's
}~ some #define'd macros) of 486-specific instructions, and if your
}~ program refers to those routines (macros, whatever) then it *will*
}~ be a i486 binary.
}~
}~ Any single executable shows up as either i386 or i486 (ie, you
}~ won't get a MAB where one architecture is 386 and another one is
}~ 486). However, any application (Something.app) directory might
}~ have several executable files, and some of those executables will
}~ be 386 and other executable files will be 486. Again, it depends
}~ on what things each individual executable is referencing.
}~
}~ I know, as fact, that some commercial applications show up this
}~ way. I think Concurrence (from LightHouse Design) is one. There
}~ are many different executable files in Concurrence, and some of
}~ them are reported as i386 while others are i486. If you are
}~ writing some macro or application to automatically process these
}~ files, then you *must* take this fact into account.
}~
}~ > I really doubt that this is going to be a problem in practice,
}~ > since I don't think people actually compile twice for the same
}~ > architecture.
}~
}~ They don't. The fact that they don't is not relevent, as both
}~ architectures will show up in binaries.
}~
}~ --
}~ Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
}~ ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
}~ Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: lprice@itsnet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, what is wrong?
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 06:19:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <lprice.13.2F52C07E@itsnet.com>
References: <3ipvgo$dpv@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
In article <3ipvgo$dpv@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de writes:
>Newsgrazer 3.75 crahes just after starting. what is wrong?
How long is a piece of rope?
Seriously, how does it crash? Does it give you any messages, or does it just
sit there. If it's the latter, try checking your .L permissions and be sure
they're yours. Sounds like you just upgraded from 3.4 or .5...
From: edwardb
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3isgch$s44@crl4.crl.com>
Message-ID: <cancel.3isgch$s44@crl4.crl.com>
Date: 27 Feb 1995 17:34:33 GMT
Control: cancel <3isgch$s44@crl4.crl.com>
spam
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tailor and pdf
Date: 27 Feb 1995 15:27:56 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3isr1s$rub@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3ilipq$b65@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
In article <3ilipq$b65@jupiter.cc.gettysburg.edu>
aebersol@titan.admin.gettysburg.edu (Dennis R. Aebersold) writes:
>
> I started the Acrobat thread and several of you suggested using Tailor
to
> read pdf files. I can't make it work. Any help would be appreciated.
> -dennis
> aebersold@gettysburg.edu
What version of Tailor are you using? Tailor 2.0 has the capability of
importing and reading .pdf files (sans hyperlinks). Tailor 1.0 does not.
That is but one of the enhancements which make upgrading from 1.0 to 2.0 a
worthwhile investment. Let me know if you'd like more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: tokumaru@spock.usc.edu (Phillip Tokumaru)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: pop3 (popper1.831beta) fixed for use with HPPA (+others?).
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 27 Feb 1995 14:44:21 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: tokumaru@spock.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3itkk5$mu2@spock.usc.edu>
Keywords: popper, pop3, hppa
I have submitted a version of popper 1.831beta (to ftp.cs.orst.edu) that
fixes a bug (in popper) that caused it to break on HP (and perhaps other?)
systems running NEXTSTEP. The files are called: popper-NeXT.README,
popper-NeXT.compressed (source), popper-NeXT.H.compressed (HPPA binary),
popper-NeXT.MIH.compressed (3fat binary).
---
Phillip Tokumaru
ptok@cave.usc.edu
Department of Aerospace Engineering
University of Southern California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GatorFTP for Intel????
Message-ID: <1995Feb27.143830.43105@cc.usu.edu>
From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (Michael Emmel)
Date: 27 Feb 95 14:38:29 MDT
Distribution: world
The version of Gator ftp found compiled on the ftp archives is for NeXT
only is there a version for intel? If not how do I contact the authors
Charles G. Fleming and Michael J. Mezzino. I would also like to suggest
adding a comment box for each ftp site so I can write a short description
of why I have that site. curently I write the site as f
tp.who.edu <next stuff,mathmatica etc> and delete the comment when I ftp.
kind of a kludge but better that 30 ftp sites with no idea why there
there.
Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jeffn@cal.DCS-Systems.COM (Jeff Nantais)
Subject: Re: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
Message-ID: <1995Feb28.001804.15466@cal.DCS-Systems.COM>
Sender: usenet@cal.DCS-Systems.COM
Organization: DCS Systems (Alberta) Ltd.
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950220113651.13506C-100000@hphalle10b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 00:18:04 GMT
Can you still buy an old version off of WP, or anywhere else??
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950220113651.13506C-100000@hphalle10b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
> On 17 Feb 1995, Kristopher Magnusson wrote:
>
> > Edwin S. Russell (esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
> >
> > : Last December I called WP and asked for some information on WP for NeXTs
> > : and for AIX. I needed the info quickly. They promised to fax it to me
> > : the NeXT :-) day. Three weeks later (now January) I wrote them a letter to
> > : ask what happened to the information . A week after that they sent the info
> > : on AIX but they said they had discontinued selling the NeXT version at the
> > : end of December.
> > Novell had nothing to do with the decision to drop the NEXTSTEP version
> > of WP. The decision was all over and done with nearly a year before.
> >
> I'm very disappointed by WP, too! It seems as WP is dropping every
> 'small' OS. Just a short story about the Amiga WP version: They got
> sponsored by Commodore to do the port (some big bucks, developers and
> hardware went to WP). When they finished a beta version everybody was
> happy, because there wasn't anything better. It was very expensive
> though, but I believe it sold quite good! For me the release was just a
> beta, because on many modells, printing didn't work well, and some
> features just weren't implemented. After doing this 'small' port. WP
> dropped WP for the Amiga, nothing new was done, because 'there are too
> many cracked versions'. I can't believe this (I own an original, and it was
> pretty much money these times, but I thought it was worth the support I
> would get...). I'd like to know the reason, why they dropped the NeXTSTEP
> port. Surely it isn't the number of cracked versions...
>
> CU,
>
> Boerny.
>
>
__________________________________________________________________________
___
> Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
> scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
> scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
> http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: tshores@unlinfo.unl.edu (thomas shores)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CLAPACK
Date: 28 Feb 1995 16:11:41 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3ivhvt$t17@crcnis3.unl.edu>
Summary: Installing CLAPACK on Nextstep?
Has anyone successfully installed the C version of LAPACK under
Nextstep FIP? I tried, and ran into a number of problems: first,
there is no library libc.a (apparently) under Nextstep. It isn't
clear what the substitute should be. I tried changing the makefiles to
accomodate libposix.a which enabled a successful compile (and solved
an fstat problem that CLAPACK didn't like with the Next compiler), but
now the test suite chokes with a "Floating point exception" error.
I started from a complete copy of the CLAPACK files (clapack.tar),
which includes the necessary f2c files, etc. If anyone has had
experience with this package in Nextstep, I would appreciate some
information on how to massage the files to work. Perhaps others would
be interested, too. CLAPACK is an outstanding package of linear
algebra routines for those interested in heavy duty numerical linear
algebra computations and lacking a FORTRAN compiler for Next (price is
right, too!)
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: *** AUDIO app for NeXT,Intel,Sun,HP ***
Message-ID: <1995Feb28.092001.34858@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 28 Feb 95 09:19:59 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
4-Fat demos, January 30, 1995
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
For more information please contact
===================================
Digital Recordings - Advanced R & D
5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H-1Y5, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
DFG and DFG_RT software is now available for 4 architectures :
==============================================================
NeXT, Intel, HP and Sun
=======================
4-Fat demo software is available now via ftp or directly from
Digital Recordings via NeXTmail.
DFG - Introduction
==================
DFG_RTdemo.app is a demo module for real-time synthesis of the
sinusoidal (pure tone) signal.Signals are generated in real time
and do not require the DSP processor (which is not available in
some NeXTSTEP computers).This version should work on all Motorola
Intel, Sun and HP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* and
equipped with D/A converters.
This program works very nicely with Digital Oscilloscope and
Spectrum Analyzer (both applications come with NeXT) and any
recording / editing software. Playback and recording/analysis
of the signal could be done simultaneously since DSP chip is not
used and main processor is used only 2-3% during signal production.
DFG_RT is an ideal signal source for research and teaching in the
fields of acoustics, psychoacoustics, electronics, electroacoustics,
physics, mechanics, vibration measurements, architecture, audiology
and transducer testing.
DFG Software Specifications / Parameters
=========================================
o Stereo output (independent R and L channel)
o Frequency adjustable continuously from 0 to 22,000 Hz.
o Frequency stability : +/- 0.0001 Hz at 1000 Hz
o Amplitude adjustable continuously from -140 to 0 dB
o Amplitude stability : +/- 0.00026 dB at 0 dB
o Phase adjustable continuously from 0 to 360 degrees.
o S/N ratio = 95 dB
DFG_RT Modules
===============
Currently there are 8 modules available in DFG_RT software :
DFG_RTsine.app - for generating pure tones (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsquare.app - for generating square wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTtriangular.app - for generating triangular wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsawtooth.app - for generating sawtooth wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTpulse.app - for generating delta-pulse train (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTnoise.app - for generating white noise in 0->22,050 Hz
range.
DFG_RTnoiseNB.app - for generating narrow band noise from
100->200 Hz to 11,000->22,000 range.
DFG_RTnoiseNBv.app - for generating narrow band noise with
bandwidth adjustable from 20 Hz to 2,000 Hz
and center frequency adjustable from 1 Hz
to 22,000 Hz.
DFGdemo.app and DFG_RTdemo.app are available on the following FTP sites
========================================================================
( please look for the files DFGdemo.app.tar.Z and DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z )
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl/pub2/next/submissions
==> Note 1: Also, you can obtain latest software via NeXTmail
*********** directly from: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
==> Note 2: We are looking forward to feedback, specially from
*********** users of NeXTSTEP on Sun and HP platforms on which
DFG software was not tested yet. Thanks in advance
for your help !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kutemej@vnp.com (Jon Kutemeier)
Subject: Re: Hidden treasures in 3.3
In-Reply-To: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de's message of 23 Feb 1995 19: 11:55 GMT
Message-ID: <KUTEMEJ.95Feb27124203@nwk122_ocachi.vnp.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: VNP Software
References: <3iimlr$5vq@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:42:03 GMT
In article <3iimlr$5vq@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
- Is there anybody but Carl Edman who has noticed that "zsh" is finally
aboard in 3.3 ? Not mentioned in any release note (or did I miss it ?)...
I noticed it! :-) but it's because carl advocated zsh that i actually
made the switch after looking into it.
- Unix haters: Sometimes it happens that you have to use "vi" or "emacs"
in a shell. Ever heard of "pico" ? Try it in 3.3.
- Alt-dragging the miniaturize-icon from a window is perhaps the most
important change to Workspace behavior in 3.3 (at least for me; try
Edit!). Ever seen this in the docs ?
Please feel free to add to this list.
well, perl v4.036 is now a part of the general distribution in 3.3, another
plus as far as i'm concerned.
-jon
jon@vnp.com
From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Converting PS to Tiff, or other raster image--HOW??
Date: 27 Feb 95 16:34:32 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <1995Feb27.163432@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman>
In article <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman>, patrickg@feynman.success.net writes:
>
> I need to convert PosctScript images to a TIFF or other raster format, so that I can convert them for a particular use. The standard Next print panel allows me to save things as a device independent PS file.
> How do I convert this file? Or is there some other way to do it?
A simple (but not that elegant) solution is to Preview the PS-file
and then use Grab to save the part you want in a .tiff file.
Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
Date: 27 Feb 1995 14:53:03 GMT
Message-ID: <3isp0f$8md@aragorn.unibe.ch>
References: <3isoct$8d9@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Moritz Willers writes
> Carl Edman writes
> > Here are a few undocumented features of Mail.app 3.3 which I
... sorry I touched the "Post" button by accident.
To complete my former message:
Mail will show the message header in the font you set the NXFont default to, e.g.
dwrite Mail NXFont Times-Roman
will set it to Times (Times-Bold for the For:, Subject:, ... and Roman for the rest
of the line.) Message body is not affected by this.
And Carl, thanks for all the other interesting defaults! I'll certainly use the
spacebar to scroll through my messages from now on!
--
Moritz Willers
Institute of Theoretical Physics
Sidlerstrasse 5
3012 Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail, MIME)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,maus.sys.next
From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: Marketing: was - Re: DOTS and 3.3
Message-ID: <D4q3p5.88@vergil.ping.de>
Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <3idmka$e68@dart.dART.DE>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:36:40 GMT
In article <3idmka$e68@dart.dART.DE> wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) writes:
> Lars-Ulrich Kahl writes
> > In article <D45oGK.31C@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko) writes:
> > > I've sent several messages over the past week to DaRT regarding a new
> > version
> > > of DOTs and other issues, but haven't received *any* response. Are they
> > > still around? or don't they bother to support existing customers.
> > >
> > > Tim
> >
> > I did it, too in the past, i got no response.
> > Two other guys of our club tried again last week - nothing.
> > But DART is around - super service - super marketing. :-(
> > DART is German Distributor for NeXT.
> > Howw will NeXT get a market -
> > - bad e-mail service
> > - bad marketing
> > - much to expensive
> >
>
> If we have such a bad e-mail service, I wonder why we still get several
hundred
> e-mails from customers every week. Sometimes so many (especially after
NEXTSTEP
> upgrades) that we can't answer them all immediately.
> I just checked my outgoing mail archive, which shows more than 20,000
outgoing
> mail messages. I don't think that many other people have written so many
> e-mails.
> BTW, I found several outgoing e-mails to Lars-Ulrich Kahl. The last one was
> suggesting that he, as an end-user, should rather buy from one of our
> resellers, than from DART (the distributor) direct.
> Lars-Ulrich Kahl (and all the other members of his NeXT-Club-Schwerte) also
got
> a mailing from DART about todays NeXT announcements, just a few hours after
the
> official announcement in the U.S.
>
> Regarding our marketing, people may like it or not. Fact is that we are one
of
> the few companies in the NEXTSTEP business who have maintained a real
marketing
> budget at all. Currently we spend about DM 500,000 (= $340,000) a year for
> NEXTSTEP marketing, which is certainly more than any other NEXTSTEP
distributor
> worldwide. As an example we are exhibiting with NEXTSTEP at CeBIT for 5 years
> in a row now.
>
> Regarding our prices: If we are so expensive, why do people buy from DART
then.
> We have been the best-selling NEXTSTEP distributor in Europe for many years.
> We also try to keep our NEXTSTEP list prices as close as we can to the
> suggested U.S. retail prices, even though we have an indirect sales channel.
> As an example, when Computer 2000 became a NeXT distributor, the first thing
> that they did was to raise the list price from DM 1,300 to DM 1,500. When
they
> gave up NEXTSTEP distribution only 9 months later, the first thing we did,
was
> to lower the list price again.
>
> Wilfried Beeck
> DART Software GmbH
Why did Dart not answer my questions, mailed three times, for a Dots-Upgrade
to Version 3.5.5 until now, if there is a so very good e-mail service ?
That is what I mean.
Yes, our NeXT Club Schwerte got at lot of Information from Dart, NeXT,
Nextanswers and NUGI (where NeXT Club Schwerte is member).
And we never would have founded a club, if we would not stand behind
NeXT-Products. We try to get more and more people using Nextstep,
but not everybody is a student and can buy studentversions.(95 % of our Club
members a students).
I think that is a general problem of nextstep and not DARTs problem,
Thats why I wrote NEXT AND NOT DART above.
Buy windows for a few bucks or nexstep for a lot of money,
thats the questions people are standing before after they bought a PC.
And money turns the world, you know.
Windows i can buy in a shop in the smallest viallage, but where can
i buy NeXTstep ????? That what I mean with marketing !!!!!
Or, did you see the jumping OS/2 sales-figures after their big
advertisment campaign in Europe.
Now you can get OS/2 at every bigger PC-shop - and NexTstep ?????????
Why is Software in the USA so much cheaper than in Europe
(including European products), so that German Nextusergroups buy there ?
Lighthouse did a step in this direction, very good. More ...
I would buy a product if it costs about 50 $ or so and look on it,
but if it would cost more than 500 $ than i would think twice about, if i need
it really and did not buy it.
Why didn t European resellers offer Office-Software-Solutions for NeXTstep
in PC-Magazins for a few bucks like Microsoft or apple resellers ?
Why is there no available European, better German, NeXT Magazin like Macworld,
(or NeXTworld in the past) that you can buy for less than 5 $ with product
tests, tips and so on ?
(Next-in-line is not what I mean).
One point at the end:
I love Nextstep as many of my friends do, but i do not want to
spend a fortune on it.
--
------------------------------------------------------------
* Lars-Ulrich Kahl NeXT-Mail please! lars@vergil.ping.de *
* NeXT Club Schwerte - The Interpersonal Computer Club *
* next-club-schwerte@vergil.ping.de *
------------------------------------------------------------
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC II
Date: 24 Feb 1995 23:08:36 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ilotk$9v@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <MjHNCuK00YWnA3P0o4@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <MjHNCuK00YWnA3P0o4@andrew.cmu.edu> David Pascua
<dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Has anyone out there successfully compiled IRC II for NeXT 3.2 on black?
> I just tried it using the 'easy install' and I go the following:
IRC 2.2.9 compiled fine for me on black hardware and NS 3.2.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: rhaas@coos.dartmouth.edu (Richard M. Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fortran compiler
Date: 28 Feb 1995 16:28:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA
Message-ID: <3ivj00$d44@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Summary: fortran compiler
Keywords: fortran compiler
Hi there -
I don't know if this exists in the FAQ or not, but I need specifics
anyway. Does anyone know of a good cheap fortran compiler for the
NeXT?
Any help would be appreciated,
Rich
From: levine@oclc.org (Eugene Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PNI slip and portmapper
Date: 28 Feb 1995 12:59:33 -0500
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ivoa5$lfv@oclc.org>
Hi
I have PNI (1.13) working on a Gateway 2000 P5-90 runing NSI 3.3. However, I
have to reboot everytime I bring up pnid a second time. The first time pnid
starts and works just fine. The second time it gives the portmapper error
msg, see below:
------------------debug output-------------------------
+ /etc/pni/pnid -c -n pni0 -f /etc/pni/config/pni0.config -t -d
TransSys PNI 1.13 ($Id: pnid.m,v 1.29 1994/10/10 03:43:55 louie Exp $)
Copyright (c) TransSys, Inc. All rights reserved.
...
Loaded bundle /etc/pni/Dialer.bundle for class Dialer
tty: Default to UUCP-style locking protocol
-slip stats: 0 packets, 0 compressed, 0 searches, 0 misses
- 0 uncompressed in, 0 compressed in, 0 error in, 0 tossed
Uptime is 1 second (since Mon Feb 20 04:10:06 1995 UTC)
287 TCL commands executed, 0.140 user, 0.130 system
Configuration complete
PNI pni: pni0 open on fd 4
=== TCL Error: Starting Encaps (phase1):
> cmdregister: cannot register with portmapper
=== errorCode
> NONE
=== errorInfo
> cmdregister: cannot register with portmapper
> while executing
> "cmdregister $i"
> invoked from within
> "if {$i>0} {
> cmdregister $i
> }"
> invoked from within
> "if {[info exists Config(CMD:prog)]} {
> cmdregister $Config(CMD:prog)
> } else {
> set i [getrpcbyname [[lindex $encapList 0] interface]]
> if ..."
> invoked from within
> "if {[string compare $phase phase1]==0} {
> #
> # Invoked to set registration of RPC command handler and
> # portmapper binding.
> #
> if {[info exists Co ..."
> (procedure "start_encaps" line 49)
> invoked from within
> "start_encaps phase1"
=== [end error dump]
------------------end debug output---------------------
I've tried restarting portmap, inetd, nibindd; but no luck in getting PNI
working again without a reboot. Any help or suggestions at all would be
appreciated.
thanks for your time,
-gene
--
/ E. T. (Gene) Levine OCLC Inc. \
| Systems Analyst 6565 Frantz Road |
| levine@oclc.org Dublin, OH 43017 |
\ NeXT mail welcome! (614) 761-5045 /
From: "Boris K. Ilienko" <boris@sca.spb.su>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.pyramid,comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: NEW! US$ 100.000 - HOW TO MAKE with your PC in 8 weeks? Contact Mrs.Manuela Flock (or Gerhard) via fax Austria: +43/2216/2731;tel.+43/2216/2632 or by return-postage to Am Fushsenfeld 1-3/34/3, A-1120 Vienna Austria/Europe, To: Manuela Flock for free info.(!No answere on E-m.We only send advs.)
Date: 28 Feb 1995 01:42:56 +0300
Organization: SCA
Sender: news@dragon.infopro.spb.su
Distribution: su
Message-ID: <AACxaKliF3@sca.spb.su>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Subject: Re: DOTS and 3.3
Message-ID: <D4q4HB.85@cicero.ping.de>
Sender: dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany
References: <3idmka$e68@dart.dART.DE>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:53:34 GMT
In article <3idmka$e68@dart.dART.DE> wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) writes:
: Lars-Ulrich Kahl writes
: > In article <D45oGK.31C@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko) writes:
: > > I've sent several messages over the past week to DaRT regarding a new
: > version
: > > of DOTs and other issues, but haven't received *any* response. Are
they
: > > still around? or don't they bother to support existing customers.
: > >
: > > Tim
: >
: > I did it, too in the past, i got no response.
: > Two other guys of our club tried again last week - nothing.
: > But DART is around - super service - super marketing. :-(
: > DART is German Distributor for NeXT.
: > Howw will NeXT get a market -
: > - bad e-mail service
: > - bad marketing
: > - much to expensive
: >
:
: If we have such a bad e-mail service, I wonder why we still get several
: hundred e-mails from customers every week. Sometimes so many (especially
if there is nobody else.....
: after NEXTSTEP upgrades) that we can't answer them all immediately.
the same thing with OS/2 and Windows 95 or anything else that comes out in a
new version.
IBM, too has to handle hundreds of thousands of orders which they cannot cope
whith too good.
: I just checked my outgoing mail archive, which shows more than 20,000
: outgoing mail messages. I don't think that many other people have written
: so many e-mails.
in the last five years ???
: BTW, I found several outgoing e-mails to Lars-Ulrich Kahl. The last one was
: suggesting that he, as an end-user, should rather buy from one of our
: resellers, than from DART (the distributor) direct.
: Lars-Ulrich Kahl (and all the other members of his NeXT-Club-Schwerte) also
: got a mailing from DART about todays NeXT announcements, just a few hours
: after the official announcement in the U.S.
nice, but this has nothing to do whith the original complaints by both of the
above writers.
: Regarding our marketing, people may like it or not. Fact is that we are one
: of the few companies in the NEXTSTEP business who have maintained a real
: marketing budget at all. Currently we spend about DM 500,000 (= $340,000) a
: year for NEXTSTEP marketing, which is certainly more than any other
: NEXTSTEP distributor worldwide. As an example we are exhibiting with
: NEXTSTEP at CeBIT for 5 years in a row now.
why don't you cut off a few bucks to employ someone who answers incoming
mails ? Good customer support is a better advertisement than advertising in
magazines etc.
: Regarding our prices: If we are so expensive, why do people buy from DART
: then.
: We have been the best-selling NEXTSTEP distributor in Europe for many
: years.
: We also try to keep our NEXTSTEP list prices as close as we can to the
: suggested U.S. retail prices, even though we have an indirect sales
: channel.
why are prices in germany still so much above the american level ?
But I think this is not a problem of DART but a general NeXTStep related
problem. The first step in the right direction was taken by Lighthose by
offering student versions at $ 99.
: As an example, when Computer 2000 became a NeXT distributor, the first
: thing that they did was to raise the list price from DM 1,300 to DM 1,500.
: When they gave up NEXTSTEP distribution only 9 months later, the first
: thing we did, was to lower the list price again.
:
: Wilfried Beeck
: DART Software GmbH
last but not least a word about customer support again. I've been over to the
states and seen their service. It doesn't matter how much you buy : friendly,
quick response to questions and people who really want to help you if you
have a question.
Sorry, I cannot say this about DART.
Just my 0.02$
-dirk
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* Dirk Olmes NeXT-Club Schwerte, Germany *
* dirk@cicero.ping.de (NeXT-Mail please) *
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu (Bill Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, what is wrong?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 19:28:16 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ivtgg$js1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <lprice.13.2F52C07E@itsnet.com>
My Newsgrazer 3.75 crashes when it reads a usenet posting that has somehow
become cross posted in the wrong group.
I'll post where to find one next time it happens.
Bill
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News Reader for the NeXT (Black Box)
Date: 1 Mar 1995 03:52:50 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <3j0r2i$cnl@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3it6f6$ml9@oak.oakland.edu>
mark@opus.pass.wayne.edu (Mark Murphy) wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a News Reader for the NeXT other than the
> Newsgrazer? I'm really sick of that piece of software crashing every
> other day due to an article with some unknown character.
I had the same experience with Grazer and have switched to using the
Alexandra news reader. It works perfectly and is a delight to use
after the bad experiences with the Grazer.
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: PROBLEM with freeWAIS-0.4 on NS/I 3.2
Date: 28 Feb 1995 15:08:07 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3ivvr7$3tu@panix.com>
Hi.
Has anyone managed to get freeWAIS-0.4 working properly on
NS/I 3.2? A few tweaks to the Makefile, and it compiles
more or less cleanly, but I get bus errors during the
testing phase of the build.
(This is freeWAIS-0.4.tar.gz pulled from ftp.cnidr.com).
Any pointers appreciated, and actual test log output available
on request.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: Re: trn for NextStep -- it needs inews -- Where to get it?
Message-ID: <D4qvop.96w@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <3j08tc$63t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <D4qv46.8qE@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 04:41:13 GMT
In article <D4qv46.8qE@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
David Meyer <dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu> wrote:
>In article <3j08tc$63t@nntp.Stanford.EDU>,
>Todd Takken <takken@raven.stanford.edu> wrote:
>>I have compiled trn under NextStep 3.2 and can read news with trn on
>>a vt100 terminal. However, trn apparently needs inews in order to send
>>posted messages to the network nntp server. I am unable to find a version
>>of inews which I can compile. Can anybody tell me where to get a version
>>of inews which will compile under NextStep 3.2?
>
>Try ftp.academ.com:/pub/nntpclnt - it should have the latest nntp
>client stuff.
I'm wrong - this version has some serious problems compiling on my
NeXT. I do recall that getting inews from the nntp-1.5.11 package to
compile and run was no problem. Apparently something got broke in
nntp-1.5.12, and I don't have time to figure out what.
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Converting PS to Tiff, or other raster image--HOW??
Date: 28 Feb 1995 20:38:34 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3j01ka$kbo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <1995Feb27.163432@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
In article <1995Feb27.163432@alpha.ntu.ac.sg> gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg
(WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG)) writes:
> In article <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman>, patrickg@feynman.success.net
writes:
> >
> > I need to convert PosctScript images to a TIFF or other raster format,
so that I can convert them for a particular use. The standard Next print
panel allows me to save things as a device independent PS file.
> > How do I convert this file? Or is there some other way to do it?
>
> A simple (but not that elegant) solution is to Preview the PS-file
> and then use Grab to save the part you want in a .tiff file.
>
> Willem
>
> W i l l e m v a n S c h a
i k
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
> Gintic - Singapore
gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
--
You can use ImageViewer.app or OmniImage.app to do this. It is available
at the archives and is freeware (I think).
..Mike.
From: Sam@chinet.com (Subodh Munzani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is the gzip only my problem ? or .....
Date: 1 Mar 1995 06:23:03 GMT
Organization: Compu Electronics
Message-ID: <3j13s7$abh@News1.mcs.com>
Hi There!
I am running NeXT 3.1 on 486DX2 66 INTEL processor. I am
planning to set my NeXT box for SLIP dialer (TransSys ) and an
OmniWeb browser. I recently download TransSys.____.gz on my OS2
machine. Up to today I used to download on OS2, used to unzip under
OS2 and then installation on NeXT (No problem at all).
In case of TransSys if I unzip under OS2 it becomes 1.9MB and can
not fit on a High Density disk. I tried to unzip with a gzip version
I had [gzip-FAT-1.2.3.tar].
gzip -d [File Name with .gz extension]
It gives me an error message that the file does not have z suffix
---aborted.
Do I need any different version of gzip file or I am doing something
wrong? I tried gunzip also with all switch. No luck.
I will really appreciate any kind of help since I can not wait to
set my NeXT box on syberspace.
Thanks in advance.
***************************************************************
Sam Munzani
Compu Electronics Inc.
6512 N Lincoln Ave.
Lincolnwood. TL 60645
Phone : 708-679-2667
Fax : 708-679-2681
e-mail: sam@chinet.chinet.com
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, what is wrong?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 21:29:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j04kc$b2e@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <lprice.13.2F52C07E@itsnet.com>
In article <lprice.13.2F52C07E@itsnet.com> lprice@itsnet.com writes:
> In article <3ipvgo$dpv@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
Tim.Mueller-Seydlitz@uni-konstanz.de writes:
> >Newsgrazer 3.75 crahes just after starting. what is wrong?
NewsGrazer 3.0v75 was crashing for me under NS 3.2 Motorolla. It would
run for 5 to 15 seconds and then die. If I ran it from the command line,
it would die with the message "segmentation fault." Somehow my .newsrc
file had become corrupted. I fixed the problem by flushing my .newsrc
file and starting from scratch with a new one.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Fax Solution For Intel
Date: 27 Feb 1995 21:51:07 GMT
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Message-ID: <3ithgb$d18@news1.shell>
I've been trying to get NXFax to work with my Supra Fax Modem in Demo
mode, but I keep getting an error message telling me that it failed
to send the fax. Does this package really work? I'm using the
NXFax that I pulled down from cs.orst.edu a few months ago. Is this
version broken? I understand that Mark Salcyn has a solution (Sorry
if I misspelled you name Mark).
What do I have to do to get my computer to send faxes?
Brad Wright
WrightSystems
wwright@shell.portal.com
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
Date: 1 Mar 1995 11:06:09 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3j1kf1$l5n@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <D4nvyu.HA@harka>
Did anyone figure out how to do public key encryption on NS 3.3?
Thanks,
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Beckman Institute, Physics Dept. UIUC
405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801,gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu, gmk@igc.apc.org,
gmk@santafe.edu, (217)-244-5877(voice/fax1),x8371(fax2), x1994 (msg)
URLs: http://www.ccsr.uiuc.edu/~gmk/, ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/gmk
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PC PKZIP format support?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 22:39:14 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: pkzip, zip, not gzip
Help!
I have a pc friend without UNIX access that is trying to send
me a large archive of html files. He can throw them together
into a pk_zip file, but I haven't been able to find a UNIX
version of pk_zip. Anyone with a clue? Thanks!
Christopher Penrose
penrose@ucsd.edu
http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Message-ID: <1995Feb28.225020.8706@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3ithp7$37k@newshost.lanl.gov>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 22:50:20 GMT
Mark Doyle writes
> Just as a comment on the side, Opener is the app that spurred this
> whole debate. If the Opener maintainers had been a bit more careful,
> perhaps it wouldn't have spurred such a reaction. The problem is that
> they released it with gzip, gunzip, zcat, etc. and toast, untoast, tcat
> etc. as SEPARATE binaries when in fact each group should have all been
> links to one binary. This alone added over 1 Meg to the size of Opener.
> Perhaps can they upload another version that doesn't have this problem.
> Doesn't solve the general problem, but in this case it would help a heck
> of a lot.
As I posted last Friday, this has been addressed in Opener 3.2a which
should appear on the archive sites later today. Due to the use of links
rather than copies this version is .48MB smaller than the previous one,
_not_ "over 1 Meg".
The inclusion of separate binaries had nothing to do with carelessness.
Denise
--
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Swiss Bank Corporation \/ deniseh@mcs.com
Chicago, IL \/ [NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail welcome]
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From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: trn for NextStep -- it needs inews -- Where to get it?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 22:42:52 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j08tc$63t@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I have compiled trn under NextStep 3.2 and can read news with trn on
a vt100 terminal. However, trn apparently needs inews in order to send
posted messages to the network nntp server. I am unable to find a version
of inews which I can compile. Can anybody tell me where to get a version
of inews which will compile under NextStep 3.2?
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: Dayne Miller <keats@keats.seanet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS < $795 anywhere? HELP!!
Date: 1 Mar 1995 00:02:09 GMT
Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA
Message-ID: <3j0di1$8ua@kaleka.seanet.com>
OK, does anyone know of a reseller who carries NS/FIP at less than the
list price (for a single copy)? Yes, I know about ISN (Internet Shop-
ping Network) and their ~$530 price, but they only have 3.2. And no, I
don't plan to enroll again any time soon (though if I wanted NS
Developer I sure would...thanks a lot, NeXT).
I'm on a tight budget at the moment, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance-
-Dayne Miller keats@keats.seanet.com [ASCII and MIME only, please]
From: dmogge@herald.Berkeley.EDU (Dru Mogge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help - Lost User Login
Date: 1 Mar 1995 00:29:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Sender: dru@cni.org
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j0f4t$f2h@agate.berkeley.edu>
Our NEXTSTEP 3.2 on a Dell Intel machine has decided to not let us log
in with the normal username. It lets us log in a root and seems normal.
If, as root, we open a terminal window, we cannot su to the normal
account either. At the graphical login window, we don't get the "shake"
indicating a bad password - the window goes blank and then the login
window returns.
This problem seems to have been caused by making what seemed a pair of
trivial changes to the NetInfo database. The system is the only
NEXTSTEP machine on a mid-sized network of Macs and DOS computers.
Thus, it uses a local NetInfo. It prints to a Mac which runs an
lp-daemon to send the job to an Apple Laserwriter.
We needed to change the Mac acting as the print server, so we defined a
new host name/IP address pair, and then defined a remote printer on that
host. On re-booting, we could print but could no longer log in with the
non-root account.
So:
o What did we do wrong, in order to avoid doing it again; and
o How to fix it? We have a plentiful supply of tape
backups. However, strangely, overwriting the NetInfo
database directory with a diskette copy from yesterday
(and rebooting) does *not* fix the problem.
Thank you for your help.
Dru
dru@cni.org
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PopOver 1.2?
Date: 1 Mar 1995 11:24:11 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3j1lgr$1vm@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <3j1d0j$icl@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul Sanders) wrote:
>I use PopOver a lot to transfer mail from work to home but I was
wondering
>if anyone has a pop program that will only transfer new mail - ie
mail
>it hasn't already transferred ?
>I believe version 1.2 is now out but I can't find it anywhere - can
anyone
>point me in the right place for it, or tell me if it has this feature
?
I use ver 1.2, but as far as I know it will do what you want only if
you have it delete the mail after it successfully transfers the E-mail
to your computer.
You can find PopOver 1.2 at:
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de /pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail
Felipe A. Rodriguez
far@earthlink.net
(NeXTmail prefered)
(MIMEmail welcome)
From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CryptorBundle v1.1 & NS3.3
Date: 27 Feb 1995 10:36:16 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3is9v0$egg@xexos.xexos.com>
Has anyone managed to integrate CryptorBundle v1.1 into the NS 3.3 Mail.app
and get it working?
I followed the instructions and it all seemed to go ok but despite having
the lock in either position it fails to encrypt.
I have the PGPPATH set and I've generated my own key pair.
It doesn't even prompt me for a key if it fails to find a public key for
the addressee.
-Paul-
--
Paul Civati, Xexos Ltd Work: paul@xexos.com
Bermondsey London UK Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Background Image?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 20:10:33 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3j0hi9$2ad@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <RDL.95Feb23224801@world.std.com>
< Is there an application or BackSpace module that allows you place an
image
< in the background. i.e. it should scale to the size of the screen and
be
< ordered behind all other windows.
I have seen an app called BackGround that does just that. It also allows
you set have multiple tiff images display at a regular interval. I
unfortunately don't know who writes it though. I will ask the person who
has it next week when I return to work and post again. Unless some one
else can tell you before then.
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail @pgate.boeing.com:mdefino@rilsd01
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordPervert (sorry WordPerfect) on NeXT hardware?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 20:25:18 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3j0idu$2hk@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <D4HwLv.6Ho@serval.net.wsu.edu>
< What is really annoying about that decision is that fact that WP for
NeXT
< doesn't support tables...which bites the big one when one wants to
import 0
< WP 5.1 for MS-DOS documents with tables in them.
< Is there a DTP or plain word processor out there for NeXT that will
import
< WP5.1 for MS-DOS documents and support the whole works? Could someone
< forward that info to me please? Currently I am running SoftPC to run
WP5.1
< for DOS so I can use old WP documents with tables. Printing is
SOOOOOOO
< very SLLLOOOOOOWWWWWW :-(
I understand OpenWrite from Zanthus will be able to port 5.1 Documents
with Tables. The currently have a Beta Version available by FTP.
Try...
ftp.sics.se
There are two others but I don't have the names with me right now (sorry)
I'll send you an E-Mail this week with the other locations.
As far as Printing from SoftPC. How are you doing that? I have tried and
tried with terrible results. Could you tell me your secret?
Thanks,
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail @pgate.boeing.com:mdefino@rilsd01
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
Date: 1 Mar 1995 16:45:55 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3j28c3$511@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <CEDMAN.95Feb26163654@freedom.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.95Feb26163654@freedom.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> Here are a few undocumented features of Mail.app 3.3 which I
> discovered with gdb. Some may already exist in older versions of
> Mail.app, but for most I doubt it. This is the list of the dwrites,
> their meaning and some typical values.
[list deleted]
> These dwrites intrigue me, and seem to have some effect, but I have
> not yet figured out what exactly they do. If you can explain some of
> them, please let me know. But if you find any of these features
> publicly documented anywhere, please keep it to yourself.
dwrite Mail AutoCompact YES
this seems to automatically compact the mailbox (nice for users,
who don't know, that delete doesn't delete) But I didnt test it.
dwrite Mail RemoteFetch "somehostname"
this is nice !! If you set this to a hostname, Mail fetches the mail fro
that host !! I don't know how it does that, but I have the host I tried
it with in my /Net directory. Don't know if that's needed.
I tried to make it a list of hostnames, but it didnt accept it.
Some others I found:
dwrite Mail ReadReceiptOption Ask (or "Always" or "Never")
Pops up a confirmationpanel, whenever you read a message.
(or just sends the receipt, or doesn't)
dwrite Mail Uuencoder /usr/bin/uuencode
... TarCommand
dwrite Mail CompressCommand /usr/ucb/compress
... UncompressCommand
all the utilities Mail uses (TarCommand is probably safetar ?)
It would be nice, if we could use gzip instead of compress, but
then nobody else could read our email. At least, everybody should
use gzip for uncompressing.
In addition to Active, Outgoing and Drafts, there is a Templates.mbox
(whatever it is)
dwrite Mail TemplatesMailbox Templates.mbox
dwrite Mail DeleteAlwaysSelects NO
when you delete a mesage, and there is no undeleted below it, nothing is
selected (instead of slecting the next or previous available message)
I don't know what these two are:
IncludePrefix
FoundDisplayDelay
I just noticed, that Shift-Tab inside the Compose Text moves the cursor
back to the Cc: Field !!
What else did NeXT hide in there ???
have fun,
--
Marc Guenther
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From: doyle@zeke.lanl.gov (Mark D. Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 1 Mar 1995 02:05:15 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j0kor$537@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <1995Feb28.225020.8706@il.us.swissbank.com>
In article <1995Feb28.225020.8706@il.us.swissbank.com>
howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard) writes:
> Mark Doyle writes
> > Just as a comment on the side, Opener is the app that spurred this
> > whole debate. If the Opener maintainers had been a bit more careful,
> > perhaps it wouldn't have spurred such a reaction.
> As I posted last Friday,
Sorry, missed that post
> this has been addressed in Opener 3.2a which
> should appear on the archive sites later today. Due to the use of links
> rather than copies this version is .48MB smaller than the previous one,
> _not_ "over 1 Meg".
I gave the uncompressed numbers:
2 x 237568 (toast) + 2 x 229376 (gzip) = 933888 (which isn't quite
over 1 Meg either. I thought there was one more gzip link). Your
number is more fair for the issue at hand. It still is a lot of
extra disk space for some users after they download though. I am
glad there is a fixed package.
> The inclusion of separate binaries had nothing to do with carelessness.
I didn't intend for the phrase "a bit more careful" to imply
"carelessness".
Cheers,
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Hidden treasures in 3.3
Message-ID: <1995Mar1.081110.4786@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <KUTEMEJ.95Feb27124203@nwk122_ocachi.vnp.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 08:11:10 GMT
In article <KUTEMEJ.95Feb27124203@nwk122_ocachi.vnp.com> kutemej@vnp.com
(Jon Kutemeier) writes:
> In article <3iimlr$5vq@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
>
> - Is there anybody but Carl Edman who has noticed that "zsh" is
finally
> aboard in 3.3 ? Not mentioned in any release note (or did I miss it
?)...
>
> I noticed it! :-) but it's because carl advocated zsh that i actually
> made the switch after looking into it.
>
> - Unix haters: Sometimes it happens that you have to use "vi" or
"emacs"
> in a shell. Ever heard of "pico" ? Try it in 3.3.
>
> - Alt-dragging the miniaturize-icon from a window is perhaps the most
> important change to Workspace behavior in 3.3 (at least for me; try
> Edit!). Ever seen this in the docs ?
>
> Please feel free to add to this list.
>
> well, perl v4.036 is now a part of the general distribution in 3.3,
another
> plus as far as i'm concerned.
>
> -jon
> jon@vnp.com
Where is perl v4.036
fabien@free> which perl
no perl in . /Net/free/Utilisateurs/fabien/Unix/bin /usr/local/bin
/usr/ucb /bin /usr/bin /usr/etc /usr/bin/X11 /etc /usr/sybase/bin
/Net/free/Utilisateurs/fabien/Apps /LocalApps /LocalApps2 /NextApps
/NextAdmin /NextDeveloper/Demos
fabien@free> hostinfo
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 3
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 14.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 55 tasks, 87 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.11, Mach factor: 0.93
--
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NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant, SYBASE DBA
10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France
Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 45 28 32 23
From: mickey@va.pubnix.com (Mickey A. Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PopOver 1.2?
Date: 1 Mar 1995 10:02:08 -0500
Organization: Pubnix Access Systems (Virginia)
Message-ID: <3j229g$nd4@pub01.va.pubnix.com>
Is there a significant difference between v1.2 and the older ones? I
don't even use the interface anymore, I just have the command line run by
cron.
------
Mickey Lasky mickey@va.pubnix.com
Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
dokk@choam.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
"Do Cadbury Eggs come from Cadbury Ovaries?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: zhs79@svusenet.ubs.ch
Subject: Re: Frame V4 ???
Message-ID: <1995Feb21.084136.8588@zh014.ubs.ubs.ch>
Sender: news@svusenet.ubs.ch
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland
References: <3iaq51$a8u@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 08:41:36 GMT
In article <3iaq51$a8u@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>, Geoff Hopson writes:
|> Apologies if this is a FAQ
|>
|> Will there be a V4 version of FrameMaker on NS?
|>
|> MIFfed of BT!
|> ---
|> ____________________________________________________________________
|> Geoff Hopson | e-mail: gah@zoo.bt.co.uk
|> Intelligence Software Systems | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah
|> B67 / Room G11 | * BT NeXTSTEP Users Group *
|> Telephone (01473) 644380 | http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~gah/nextstep
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------
|> "When you're in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut!" (anon)
I was asking exactly the same question to Frame itself a few days ago.
They told me, that they did not intend to port a Frame4 version to
NEXTSTEP. Their plan is to evaluate the success of Frame 3.2 and then
to decide about future releases running under NS.
As a consequence they wrote:
"IF/WHEN another FrameMaker NS release is made available,
it will skip the Frame4 generation of releases."
So all FM-users: buy FM3.2 for NEXTSTEP!
Bye, Daniel
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From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe has no Loyalty (was Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader)
Date: 23 Feb 1995 07:25:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3ihd8k$bf@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3igi8v$l99@network.ucsd.edu>
In article <3igi8v$l99@network.ucsd.edu> penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher
Penrose) writes:
>>
>> It is really amazing to me that Adobe has abandoned
>> NeXTstep, the only operating system with a display
>> postscript interface. With every copy of NeXTstep
>> sold, Adobe receives a royalty.
Are you sure NEXTSTEP is the only system that uses Display Postscript?
>>
>> Why has Adobe refused to develop an Acrobat reader
>> for NeXTstep? Why has Adobe stopped supporting
>> Adobe Illustrator for NeXTstep? Why has Adobe
>> refused to develop Photoshop for NeXTstep? NeXT
>> has supported Adobe's postscript products like
>> no other company. What is wrong with these
>> greedy, Adobe bastards?
>>
Same reason Frame abandoned the NeXT market (for a while),
same reason Matlab isn't on NeXT ,
Adobe is a company. It develops for money. If it can't make
enough money off the NeXT platform, it moves away.
>> Chris Penrose
>> penrose@ucsd.edu
>> http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard)
Subject: Re: Is the gzip only my problem ? or .....
Message-ID: <1995Mar1.154234.18923@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3j13s7$abh@News1.mcs.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 15:42:34 GMT
Subodh Munzani writes
> In case of TransSys if I unzip under OS2 it becomes 1.9MB and can
> not fit on a High Density disk. I tried to unzip with a gzip version
> I had [gzip-FAT-1.2.3.tar].
>
> gzip -d [File Name with .gz extension]
>
> It gives me an error message that the file does not have z suffix
> ---aborted.
>
> Do I need any different version of gzip file or I am doing something
> wrong? I tried gunzip also with all switch. No luck.
Rename the file to have a .z extension instead of .gz and try it again.
Denise
--
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Swiss Bank Corporation \/ deniseh@mcs.com
Chicago, IL \/ [NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail welcome]
(312) 554-6298 \/ "Older and Bolder!"
From: terence@sfsc.com (Terence Liow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: $99 *new* NS 3.1 for 80x86
Date: 27 Feb 1995 03:49:51 GMT
Organization: w
Message-ID: <3iri4v$pvd@maple.enet.net>
A store I have dealt with for a few mail-order purchases seems to have
gotten its hand on NextStep 3.1 for Intel and they're selling them for
only $99 a copy.
Great deal for anyone who wants to try Next Step and don't want to
pay full sticker for it.
I've dealt with Access Comp. Tech. and they are reliable. SHipped
monitors to Northern Virginia and Nevada for me.
Address:
2225 El Camino Real
Santa Clara CA (408) 247-4444
2080 El Camino Real
Palp Alto CA (415) 813-0600
From: mark@opus.pass.wayne.edu (Mark Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: News Reader for the NeXT (Black Box)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 95 18:42:44 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3it6f6$ml9@oak.oakland.edu>
Can anyone suggest a News Reader for the NeXT other than the Newsgrazer? I'm really sick
of that piece of software crashing every other day due to an article with some unknown character.
I've tried contacting the makers of this software in the past with no luck.
Mark Murphy
Systems Analyst
Wayne State University
mark@opus.pass.wayne.edu
From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle v1.1 & NS3.3
Date: 1 Mar 1995 15:41:17 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3j24it$5dn@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <950228143426.771AAAAF.thomas@gamelan>
Thomas Funke <thomas@gamelan.shnet.org> writes
> Get CryptorBundle 1.2 from the Net, that will solve your problems
I have and it does, at last. :-)
For some reason it all installed ok but would not encrypt, instead of
popping up a dialog asking for the recipients public key it would just send
the mail as normal (yes, I did have the padlock in the right position).
I think it might've been to do with the PGPPATH environment variable, I
changed it to /users/paul/.pgp rather than ~/.pgp and it works now, at
least I think that's what fixed it, although I'm not sure.
-Paul-
--
Paul Civati, Xexos Ltd Work: paul@xexos.com
Bermondsey London UK Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk
From: mtuteja@clark.lcs.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: trn for NextStep -- it needs inews -- Where to get it?
Date: 1 Mar 1995 16:59:26 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j295e$dn5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3j08tc$63t@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I have a version of inews that I got to compile on my NextStep box. Be
forewarned, this isn't real inews--it is merely a forwarder to a NNTP
server. You'll find it under anonymous ftp at clark.lcs.mit.edu,
pub/manish/inews.tar.gz. It should compile out of the box. (Remember to
edit the conf.h file first.) It works fine with trn for me.
Manish
In article <3j08tc$63t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
>
> I have compiled trn under NextStep 3.2 and can read news with trn on
> a vt100 terminal. However, trn apparently needs inews in order to send
> posted messages to the network nntp server. I am unable to find a
version
> of inews which I can compile. Can anybody tell me where to get a
version
> of inews which will compile under NextStep 3.2?
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@raven.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Message-ID: <jlemonD4o8xJ.2op@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D4FHCM.4ny@relief.com> <3ir7sq$8a5@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:34:31 GMT
Sender: jlemon@netcom22.netcom.com
In article <3ir7sq$8a5@usenet.rpi.edu>,
Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
>jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) writes:
>> I think the best solution so far is to have N+1 separate packages
>> on the ftp sites (1 for each arch binaries, and one with the
>> other stuff), and someone clever with some spare time could write
>> a FatMerge.app that glued them back together.
>
>People who do need multiple architectures could just download
>the NIHS (or whatever) version, and trim it down. I don't think
>it's particularly convenient to require that *everyone* download
>several different files and "FatMerge" them together, even if
>someone writes a FatMerge program (which, of course, everyone
>would have to download...). Also remember that the universe of
>NeXTSTEP users still includes people who are running on NeXT
>hardware and NeXTSTEP release 3.0.
Why would it be inconvenient? For someone who wants all 4 architectures,
yes, 5 files would need to be downloaded, but it would take the same amount
of time as downloading the "obese" app. For someone who only wants 1 arch,
it boils down to:
- download "obese" app, then run some kind of "thinning" program.
or
- download 2 bundles, then run "ArchMerge".
In both cases, you still have to run a program after downloading, but in
the second, you also save on download time. If you are using something like
Yftp, just select highlight both files and hit "get".
I think that the majority of people only want 1-2 archs, so transferring the
other stuff is just wasted time.
As for 3.0, (assuming by your reference that it doesn't support fat files)
when merging in one architecture into the base package, just make the
resultant executables 'thin' instead of fat.
--
Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: greyham@research.canon.oz.au (Graham Stoney)
Subject: How to configure gdb-4.13 as a remote MIPS debugger on NeXTstep?
Message-ID: <D4p7qE.1G8@research.canon.oz.au>
Summary: Help!
Keywords: gdb, MIPS, remote debug, NeXTstep
Sender: news@research.canon.oz.au
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:06:14 GMT
I'm having a bit of a problem using the GNU toolset as a cross-development
environment for a MIPS R3000 processor on an Intel machine running NeXTstep,
and I'd appreciate any help or advice anyone could offer. The problem is that
gdb-4.13 doesn't appear to support the host configuration i386-next-nextstep,
so I'm having trouble configuring gdb to run under NeXTstep, as a remote
debugger talking to an embedded MIPS R3000 target over a serial line.
Here's what I get when I attempt to configure gdb:
greyham@stumpy% ../../gdb-4.13/configure --with-gnu-as --with-gnu-ld --prefix=/home/kwanon/greyham/next-usr-local --target=mips-elf
Configuring for a i386-next-nextstep host.
Invalid configuration `i386-next-nextstep': machine `i386-next-nextstep' not recognized
Created "Makefile" in /a/eos/mezz/greyham/next-mips/gdb-4.13
Invalid configuration `i386-next-nextstep': machine `i386-next-nextstep' not recognized
...
*** Gdb does not support host --
Invalid configuration `i386-next-nextstep': machine `i386-next-nextstep' not recognized
Invalid configuration `i386-next-nextstep': machine `i386-next-nextstep' not recognized
In other words, it looks like trouble. Does anyone know of a patch to enable
gdb to run on NeXTstep? Note that I'm not wanting to run gdb to debug native
processes; only as a remote debugger talking the mips protocol to an embedded
system. I've currently got it running on a Sun, but need to move to a
NeXTstep environment.
Any suggestions or advice anyone may have would be greatly appreciated; please
E-mail me a copy if you choose to post here, in case I miss your sagely wisdom.
Many thanks,
Graham
--
Graham Stoney
Promotions Manager,
CISRA Ice Spectacular
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: mreynold@netcom.com (Marc B. Reynolds)
Subject: Re: PC PKZIP format support?
Message-ID: <mreynoldD4rx8q.MtH@netcom.com>
Keywords: pkzip, zip, not gzip
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:12:26 GMT
Sender: mreynold@netcom4.netcom.com
In article <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu>,
Christopher Penrose <penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>I have a pc friend without UNIX access that is trying to send
>me a large archive of html files. He can throw them together
>into a pk_zip file, but I haven't been able to find a UNIX
>version of pk_zip. Anyone with a clue? Thanks!
Go to ftp.uu.net:/pub/archiving/zip
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marc B. Reynolds W: (510) 814-6384
mreynold@netcom.com
(No NeXT-mail)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jason@ipswich1.demon.co.uk (Jason Morphett)
Subject: *** OO Reuse Survey (1st post of 4) ***
Organization: None
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:36:32 +0000
Message-ID: <755608964wnr@ipswich1.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
======================
"Does Formal Specification of Object Behaviour Assist in Reuse"
Participants are asked to complete a survey questionnaire, which
is attached at the end of this message (duration c.10 mins).
Please mail responses direct to Jason Morphett
E-mail: jason@ipswich1.demon.co.uk
------------------------------------------------------------------
1.0 User Responses
------------------------------------------------------------------
1.1 Please complete this form by 31/03/95 then e-mail it to
the author directly. Your co-operation is greatly appreciated. A
summary of results will be provided upon request providing the
desired response is adequate for analysis, thank you.
----------------------
1.2 Purpose:
The purpose of the study is to evaluate current perceptions of
reuse in object oriented systems, particularly in the CASE
environment with an emphasis on OOA/D phases of development.
----------------------
1.3 Procedures:
You are asked to complete a survey questionnaire about your
yourself and your views on OO reuse.
You are free to refuse to answer any part of the questionnaire,
although it will be helpful if you can answer as many questions
as possible.
No compensation will be provided for your participation, but a
summary of the results will be made available upon request
(see 1.1).
----------------------
1.4 Confidentiality:
You will not be personally identifiable in any reports or
publications generated by this study. Completed questionnaires
will be destroyed after a maximum of six months after the 18/05/95.
Only Jason Morphett will have access to the questionnaires.
----------------------
1.5 Directions:
This survey includes three kinds of questions. Many use answer
scales with numbered boxes. For these questions, please place an
"x" in the box. A second kind of question includes boxes next to
suggested answers. Please place an "x" in the one box that marks
what seems like the best answer, unless the question says you can
select more than one answer. The third kind of question includes
blank lines. For these, please print your answers in the
space provided.
----------------------
There are no right or wrong answers; this is not a test.
------------------------------------------------------------
2.0 Questionnaire - N.B. a "*" around a word denotes emphasis
------------------------------------------------------------
2.1 What is your current involvement in IT
[ ] Programmer
[ ] Analyst
[ ] Manager
[ ] Other [................................]
2.1.1 How long have you been involved in object oriented
development ?
[ ] less than 1 year
[ ] 1 - 2 years
[ ] 2 - 3 years
[ ] 3 - 5 years
[ ] greater than 5 years
2.2 Which object oriented analysis methods are you
familiar with (Please indicate with a "1" for
the most familiar and then an "x" for all others).
[ ] OOSA (Schlaer/Mellor, 1991)
[ ] Coad/Yourdon (1990, 1991 and 1991a)
[ ] OMT (Rumbaugh et al, 1991)
[ ] OOSE (Jacobson et al, 1992)
[ ] OSA (Embley et al, 1992)
[ ] OORASS (Reenskaug, 1989 and 1990)
[ ] Desfray (1992)
[ ] BON (Nerson, 1992)
[ ] Fusion (Coleman and Hayes, 1991 and Coleman et al, 1994)
[ ] Other(s) [................................]
2.3 Which object oriented design methods are you
familiar with (Please indicate with a "1" for
the most familiar and then an "x" for all others).
[ ] Booch (1986)
[ ] Booch (1991)
[ ] GOOD (Seidewitz and Stark, 1986)
[ ] HOOD
[ ] OOSD (Wasserman, Pircher and Muller, 1990)
[ ] JSD/OOJSD (Jackson, 1983)
[ ] OODLE (Schlaer and Mellor, 1992)
[ ] CRC (Beck and Cunningham, 1989)
[ ] Other(s) [................................]
2.4 How much do you agree with the following statements ?
2.4.1 "Corporate object reusability is a utopian ideal"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.2 "Reuse is a limited capability restricted to
specific domains, e.g. GUI development"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.3 "Concern over increasing maintenance costs is *the*
key factor in developing reusable components"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.4 "Development costs inhibits the additional effort
in designing reusable components"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.5 "Inheritance delivers extensibility at the expense of
reusability"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.6 "Complex inheritance schemes compromise reusability
due to the semantic richness of the design"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.7 "Formal specification of object behaviour for the
purposes of identifying reusable candidates is *only*
effective if embedded in CASE"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.5 Has reuse been a *key* consideration in your application
development to date ?
[ ] YES [ ] NO
2.6 Is there a corporate policy on reuse within your
organisation in development of new systems ?
[ ] YES [ ] NO
If YES please provide a synopsis of the policy
________________________________________________
________________________________________________
________________________________________________
________________________________________________
2.6 How much do you agree with the following statements ?
2.6.1 "Reuse for the future is *engineered* and does not
purely emerge naturally in OOA/D"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.6.2 "Reusable components consist of loosely coupled,
high level classes classified by category
(e.g. business, interface, container classes etc.)"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.6.3 "Formal specification of behaviour can provide a
more unequivocal search mechanism to identify
candidate classes for reuse as opposed to standard
keyword searches"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.7 To what extent has reuse been achieved in your development(s) ?
N.B. Please consider the ratio:-
potential components for reuse : actual components reused
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.8 Do you use CASE in OO development ?
[ ] YES [ ] NO
2.9 What is your criteria in searching for candidates for reuse ?
(Please indicate with a "1" for the primary selection mechanism
and "x"s thereafter)
[ ] Keyword searches
[ ] Formal methods / specifications
[ ] Domain analysis
[ ] Taxonomic approaches
[ ] Domain Knowledge
[ ] Other [................................]
----------------------------------------------------------
3.0 Conclusion
----------------------------------------------------------
This concludes the questionnaire. The time and effort you have
taken in answering the questions will help a lot in making the
study accurate and meaningful.
Sometimes it is useful to contact respondents to clarify answers
or to ask about reasons for responses or remarks. Also, some
people want a summary of findings.
If you are willing to be contacted and/or want a summary of
findings, please provide the following optional information.
(All information is strictly confidential.)
Thank you!
Name ______________________________
E-mail ______________________________
[ ] Please "x" here if you want a summary of the findings.
N.B. Results will not be returned until 18/05/95 (see 1.1)
END 01/03/95.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
Message-ID: <D4s5D9.2Hu@RnA.NL>
Sender: news@RnA.NL
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <3j1kf1$l5n@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 21:07:57 GMT
In article <3j1kf1$l5n@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried
Mayer-Kress) writes:
> Did anyone figure out how to do public key encryption on NS 3.3?
>
Cryptorbundle works fine.
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: what's in Academic Bundle ??
Date: 2 Mar 1995 04:09:37 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3j3ge1$t0o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3iibcr$ge5@cv.jinr.dubna.su>
In article <3iibcr$ge5@cv.jinr.dubna.su> ivanov@iren.jinr.dubna.su
(Alexander P. Ivanov) writes:
->Alistair Blachford (alistair@bcu.ubc.ca) wrote:
->: I tried NeXTAnswers by phone, twice, to get info on the Academic
->: Bundle, to see what it contains (user only?). No faxes for 2 days
either
->: time. So onto the Web to find that the Academic Bundle is described
neither
->: under NeXTStep Products, nor in the NeXTAnswers doc. The latter says
little
->: else than to order it thru the campus bookstore. Great. I've got the
price
->: from them, but they don't know what it contains either. Would someone
please
->: tell me WHAT'S IN THE BUNDLE?
->: Thanks!
->: Alistair
->
-> NS 3.2 Academic Bundle consists of some (unnecessary) books and 2 CD
with:
->NS3.2 itself, developer tools (Project builder,Interface Builder etc.
->with gcc, C++ and Objective C compilers and libraries ), a number of
->packages (documentation on OS and Developers tools,TEX package,
->Demo programs and sources,literature{Digital Webster,Shakespears
plays...}).
-> There is also 3-rd CD with, as I remember, different applications (demo
->versions as they wrote), but I didn't see what at this disk really.
Hmmm
All I got when I ordered the 3.2 academic bundle (black) from the campus
bookstore was the CD's. No books or anything aside from the
Upgrading to NEXTSTEP 3.2 and release notes.
I got the Intel academic bundle shipped to me by accident, and
it was in a nice big box with a couple of books in them (I think,
didn't open it cause I had to send it back).
Should there have been some manuals or did I get burned?
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
Date: 27 Feb 1995 14:42:37 GMT
Message-ID: <3isoct$8d9@aragorn.unibe.ch>
References: <CEDMAN.95Feb26163654@freedom.princeton.edu>
Carl Edman writes
> Here are a few undocumented features of Mail.app 3.3 which I
> discovered with gdb. Some may already exist in older versions of
> Mail.app, but for most I doubt it. This is the list of the dwrites,
> their meaning and some typical values.
>
>
> dwrite Mail TocFont Helvetica
> dwrite Mail TocFontSize 12
>
> Font and size for the table of contents.
>
You can set this via the Font Panel. Select the message in the message list and
change the font like you normally do with Cmd-t ....
Long ago, when the Mail.app showed the message body in Helvetica, somebody posted
how this could be changed to Ohlfs. I don't remember it anymore, but by browsing
though my Mail defaults I realized, that there is a
Mail NXFont Ohlfs
which is not special for the Mail.app, but the Mail.app treats it differently than
other apps. If you have set this to Ohlfs, Mail.app won't show the lines
--
Moritz Willers
Institute of Theoretical Physics
Sidlerstrasse 5
3012 Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail, MIME)
From: terence@sfsc.com (Terence Liow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS < $795 anywhere? HELP!!
Date: 2 Mar 1995 05:18:05 GMT
Organization: w
Message-ID: <3j3ked$j3d@maple.enet.net>
References: <3j0di1$8ua@kaleka.seanet.com>
In article <3j0di1$8ua@kaleka.seanet.com>, Dayne Miller <keats@keats.seanet.com> says:
>
>OK, does anyone know of a reseller who carries NS/FIP at less than the
>list price (for a single copy)? Yes, I know about ISN (Internet Shop-
>ping Network) and their ~$530 price, but they only have 3.2. And no, I
>don't plan to enroll again any time soon (though if I wanted NS
>Developer I sure would...thanks a lot, NeXT).
If you look at c.s.n.marketplace, I posted a note of one shop that
is selling NS 3.1 FIP for $99. Upgrade to 3.3 for $200 or so.
The company is Access Computer in Santa Clara and Palo Alto. Have had them
send me stuff mail order before
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) (Felix Rauch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:54:29 GMT
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <D4nvyu.HA@harka>
References: <CEDMAN.95Feb26163654@freedom.princeton.edu>
Originator: HARKA@nice.ethz.ch
Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
> dwrite Mail SpacePages YES
> Simple, but useful. With this dwrite hitting space in a mailbox
> window advances the message one screen, jumping from message to
> message as needed.
Just in case somebody did not notice it: Hitting shift-space does the
same in the opposite direction.
It just works ;-)
- Felix
--
Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Date: 26 Feb 1995 23:00:40 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ir16o$43v@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <jlemonD4LE2G.Brr@netcom.com>
jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) writes:
> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
> >On 20 Feb 1995, Garance A. Drosehn wrote:
> >> Someone else wrote:
> >> > foreach ARCH (m68k i386 hppa sparc)
> >>
> >> Intel binaries can be either i386 or i486 architectures.
> >> Different files in a single app-wrapper might differ in whether
> >> the intel part is 386 or 486.
> >
> > There is one question I always wanted to ask:
> >
> > cc provides the i486 flag, which should prodcue better (faster?)
> > code for i486/i586 processors. All sources I catch from the
> > net, are compiling for i386. As far as I know, there is no NS
> > for the i386!? So why the hell is everybody using the i386
> > instead of i486 flag?! Are there any caveats which should
> > prevent someony from using the i486 compiler option?
>
> Probably not. As you said, there is no NS for the i386. The
> i386 designation really refers to the architecture, in this case,
> not the processor support. The differences between the i386,
> i486 and i586 are pretty small as compared to those between the
> i286 and i386.
Well, before you go too far, you should realize that I'm speaking
from first-hand experience. It is a fact that some binaries will
show up as i386, and others will show up as i486. It has nothing
to do with what the user specifies. It has to do with what library
routines you call. Some routines take advantage (or maybe it's
some #define'd macros) of 486-specific instructions, and if your
program refers to those routines (macros, whatever) then it *will*
be a i486 binary.
Any single executable shows up as either i386 or i486 (ie, you
won't get a MAB where one architecture is 386 and another one is
486). However, any application (Something.app) directory might
have several executable files, and some of those executables will
be 386 and other executable files will be 486. Again, it depends
on what things each individual executable is referencing.
I know, as fact, that some commercial applications show up this
way. I think Concurrence (from LightHouse Design) is one. There
are many different executable files in Concurrence, and some of
them are reported as i386 while others are i486. If you are
writing some macro or application to automatically process these
files, then you *must* take this fact into account.
> I really doubt that this is going to be a problem in practice,
> since I don't think people actually compile twice for the same
> architecture.
They don't. The fact that they don't is not relevent, as both
architectures will show up in binaries.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: "Charles W. Cooper II" <charles@oneworld.wa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail sifter for Mail.app?
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 09:39:54 -0800
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950301093833.13030D-100000@oneworld.wa.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Does anyone know of a package or method for sorting incoming mail into
folders in Mail.app? i.e. could procmail be used for this?
Thanks!
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fortran compiler
Date: 2 Mar 1995 06:09:10 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3j3ne6$1i1o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3j2i3g$1k2m@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Keywords: fortran, f77,g77
In article <3j2i3g$1k2m@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator) writes:
> Richard M. Haas (rhaas@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
>
> : Hi there -
> : I don't know if this exists in the FAQ or not, but I need specifics
> : anyway. Does anyone know of a good cheap fortran compiler for the
> : NeXT?
>
>
> : Any help would be appreciated,
> : Rich
>
> f2c is a pd preprocessor. translates fortran to c. Comes with a script
> and C code for appropriate fortran library. We ran linpack benchmarks
> with it, and came out with 1.5 MFlops on black hardware, with the
> machine not very busy doing other things.
Also gnu fortran is in beta. Both gcc2.6.3 and g77 compiled flawlessly
on Moto and Intel for me:
>g77 -v
gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-next-nextstep3/2.6.3/specs
gcc version 2.6.3
>g77 -v
gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-next-nextstep3/2.6.3/specs
gcc version 2.6.3
g77 is available at gnu sites.
--
James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab
Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb: Fatal Error (#500)
Date: 1 Mar 1995 20:58:22 -0800
Organization: runner
Message-ID: <3j3j9e$bs3@runner.uucp>
Keywords: OmniWeb Error
OmniWeb 0.9.3 on my NeXTStation Color (3.2) was running
very well until today. Now, as soon as I try to connect
I receive an error window that states:
----
Fatal Error (#500)
Can't Access Document
http://ne [... rest of http line ...]
Reason: System call 'connect' failed: Connection refused
-----
Any Ideas as to why the Connection is refused to all http pages
that I try? (My network is up, I have an RS6000 running on
the same net and Netscape works. Also, I can telnet, etc. from
the NeXT.)
Any help, hints .... would be appreciated.
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From: rene@prz.tu-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski)
Subject: MBONE on NS 3.3 ?
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <D4t3v3.Gu1@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 09:33:03 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Is there any chance to run MBONE (the client part, not the mrouted) on
NS 3.3 machines (m68k,i386,hppa) ?
If not, is anybody working on such applications ?
Regards
Rene'
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From: jlandwehr@NeXT.COM (John Landwehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: what's in Academic Bundle ??
Date: 1 Mar 1995 18:54:43 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
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References: <3ifu7h$76s@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <3ifu7h$76s@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> alistair@bcu.ubc.ca (Alistair
Blachford) writes:
> I tried NeXTAnswers by phone, twice, to get info on the Academic
> Bundle, to see what it contains (user only?). No faxes for 2 days either
> time. So onto the Web to find that the Academic Bundle is described neither
> under NeXTStep Products, nor in the NeXTAnswers doc. The latter says little
> else than to order it thru the campus bookstore. Great. I've got the price
> from them, but they don't know what it contains either. Would someone
please
> tell me WHAT'S IN THE BUNDLE?
> Thanks!
> Alistair
New Academic bundles for HP, Sun, Intel, and NeXT computers will have 3.3
User, 3.3 Developer, and EOF. These products are for educational institutions
and individual faculty, staff, and students for education and research only.
They will be shipping the last week of March.
From: thenuad@nirvana.infopro.spb.su (Andrey Dementyev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: cmsg cancel <AACxaKliF3@sca.spb.su>
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Date: 1 Mar 1995 19:12:33 GMT
Organization: PeterLink, St.Petersburg, Russia
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St.Petersburg, Russia
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fortran compiler
Date: 1 Mar 1995 19:32:00 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3j2i3g$1k2m@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3ivj00$d44@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Richard M. Haas (rhaas@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
: Hi there -
: I don't know if this exists in the FAQ or not, but I need specifics
: anyway. Does anyone know of a good cheap fortran compiler for the
: NeXT?
: Any help would be appreciated,
: Rich
f2c is a pd preprocessor. translates fortran to c. Comes with a script
and C code for appropriate fortran library. We ran linpack benchmarks
with it, and came out with 1.5 MFlops on black hardware, with the
machine not very busy doing other things.
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From: Thomas Funke <thomas@gamelan.shnet.org>
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle v1.1 & NS3.3
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 12:34:26 GMT
Get CryptorBundle 1.2 from the Net, that will solve your problems
--
----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.shnet.org -----
C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle v1.1 & NS3.3
Date: 1 Mar 1995 19:38:34 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j2ifq$fts@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3j24it$5dn@xexos.xexos.com>
Paul Civati writes
>Thomas Funke <thomas@gamelan.shnet.org> writes
>> Get CryptorBundle 1.2 from the Net, that will solve your problems
>
>I have and it does, at last. :-)
[snip]
Where can I get a copy of CryptorBundle? Please e-mail responses.
Thanx,
Michael
---
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From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: App Launch from unix shell
Date: 2 Mar 1995 14:25:28 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j4kgo$b33@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <3hg5hk$3kf@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I have an associated question:
I want to start an application (Tailor) on a remote host and redirect its
output to my host. One (cumbersome) way is to log onto the remote machine,
and call s.th. like
/LocalApps/Tailor.app/Tailor -NXHost <my-machine> &
where I have to type all of it.
If I use the new open:
appopen Tailor -NXHost <remote-machine>
I can open a remote copy of tailor, but it will NOT redirect its output to my
machine, but instead tries to contact the remote workspace. And if no one is
logged onto the remote console, I get
DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host <remote-machine>
Hmm, am I doing s.th. completely wrong here? Can be done what I want? Easily
(see above)?
BTW: the remote and local machine do NOT share the same file system, no
cross-mountings. But I can always ftp files back and forth.
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From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, what is wrong?
Date: 1 Mar 1995 14:24:32 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503012023.AA00201@alleg.EDU>
Newsgrazer 3.75 crahes just after starting. what is wrong?
More than likely someone has posted a post with a strange header.
This causes NewsGrazer to expel previously chewed bytes all over the
place (aka crash)
Trick (usually) is to turn off the "presort" and "prefetch article
title" preferences.
Start newsgrazer again, and then keep track of the article numbers.
When you find the one that causes it to crash (it's easy to tell),
edit your .newsrc to show that you have already read that article.
Sounds like it is time to start a "Why NewsGrazer crashes and what
little there is to do about it" FAQ.
;-}
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 27 Feb 1995 00:54:50 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ir7sq$8a5@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <D4FHCM.4ny@relief.com>
jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) writes:
> dirk@cicero.ping.de (Dirk Olmes) writes:
> > In my opinion the most (home) users want to get _only_one_ of
> > the listed architectures. For them it would be best to download
> > the appropriate bundle.
> > The other ones can still download the MAB and lipo out the
> > binaries they don't want. (Of course this would mean more disk
> > space "wasted" on the ftp archives).
>
> Au contraire! I have two machines at home, one m68k and one
> i486. I may very well have a sparc here soon, so I need fat
> apps.
Once again we have someone who misses the distinction between
"most home users" and "me, personally, at home"... :-)
I agree with Dirk. I suspect that *most* home users can only
afford one NeXTSTEP platform at home.
> I think the best solution so far is to have N+1 separate packages
> on the ftp sites (1 for each arch binaries, and one with the
> other stuff), and someone clever with some spare time could write
> a FatMerge.app that glued them back together.
People who do need multiple architectures could just download
the NIHS (or whatever) version, and trim it down. I don't think
it's particularly convenient to require that *everyone* download
several different files and "FatMerge" them together, even if
someone writes a FatMerge program (which, of course, everyone
would have to download...). Also remember that the universe of
NeXTSTEP users still includes people who are running on NeXT
hardware and NeXTSTEP release 3.0.
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help...PPP2.2
Date: 1 Mar 1995 23:11:31 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3j2uv3$2st@news.panix.com>
I desperately need help using PPP2.2. I am confused about the whole 'running in the backgraound' thing.
Can someone tell me how they configured theirs to dial out to a provider?
I'm happy to supply you with any non-password type info.
Thanks.
Charles.
Control: cancel <1995Mar2.090548.1992@proximus.north.de>
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: cancel
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 09:23:11 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar2.092311.2128@proximus.north.de>
<1995Mar2.090548.1992@proximus.north.de> was cancelled from within trn.
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 27 Feb 1995 21:55:51 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ithp7$37k@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <jlemonD4o8xJ.2op@netcom.com>
Just as a comment on the side, Opener is the app that spurred this
whole debate. If the Opener maintainers had been a bit more careful,
perhaps it wouldn't have spurred such a reaction. The problem is that
they released it with gzip, gunzip, zcat, etc. and toast, untoast, tcat
etc. as SEPARATE binaries when in fact each group should have all been
links to one binary. This alone added over 1 Meg to the size of Opener.
Perhaps can they upload another version that doesn't have this problem.
Doesn't solve the general problem, but in this case it would help a heck
of a lot.
Cheers,
Mark
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: REPOST: (HELP) NS and MultiSession CDs?
Date: 1 Mar 1995 18:57:13 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3j2g29$5d8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3itljc$au5@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Question:
If I connect a multi-session PhotoCD capable CD-Drive (e.g. Apple 300+) to
my NeXTStation running NS 3.3 will I be able to view multi-session PhotoCD
disks? I cannot test this because I don't have (yet) multi-session PhotoCD
discs, but I am thinking of adding more images to my CD and thus
converting it to multi-session.
Please respond by EMail. Thanks.
--
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Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
From: wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTIME won't eat .avi files - why?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 09:53:26 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j44im$oqs@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Subject says it: I tried to view the .avi demo files on an OS/2 beta
CD-ROM. Double-clicking loads NEXTIME, but then nothing happens (not even
a panel appears saying something is wrong).
???
If the app can't read .avi files (to be honest, I can't remember any
indication that it should), why does it give these files the video cassete
icon? Is this feature broken in release 1.0 (the one that came with 3.3)?
Please e-mail me any suggestions or hints!
ys
A.W.
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From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: what's in Academic Bundle ??
Message-ID: <jlemonD4tMBC.A37@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3iibcr$ge5@cv.jinr.dubna.su> <3j3ge1$t0o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:11:36 GMT
Sender: jlemon@netcom22.netcom.com
In article <3j3ge1$t0o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
Eugene Mah <eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>
>Should there have been some manuals or did I get burned?
The NS/I educational package doesn't come with manuals, just a small box
containing a couple of books like "Getting started with NS".
--
Jonathan
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From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options
Message-ID: <jlemonD4o8CK.G1@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <jlemonD4LE2G.Brr@netcom.com> <3ir16o$43v@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 18:21:56 GMT
Sender: jlemon@netcom22.netcom.com
In article <3ir16o$43v@usenet.rpi.edu>,
Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
>Well, before you go too far, you should realize that I'm speaking
>from first-hand experience. It is a fact that some binaries will
>show up as i386, and others will show up as i486. It has nothing
>to do with what the user specifies. It has to do with what library
>routines you call. Some routines take advantage (or maybe it's
>some #define'd macros) of 486-specific instructions, and if your
>program refers to those routines (macros, whatever) then it *will*
>be a i486 binary.
I'm not disputing that.
The architecture is specified via two flags. So what lipo reports as
"i386" and "i486" is actually something like this:
i386: CPU_TYPE_I386 CPU_SUBTYPE_ANY
i486: CPU_TYPE_I386 CPU_SUBTYPE_I486
So if you compile for i386, and you happen to link in some library code that
has i486-specific instructions, your binary is going to be "promoted" to i486.
It is probably possible to "force" the compiler to set the CPU_SUBTYPE_I486
flag, even if the binary doesn't make use of any i486-specific instructions.
I don't know why you'd want to do this, though.
>Any single executable shows up as either i386 or i486 (ie, you
>won't get a MAB where one architecture is 386 and another one is
>486).
Normally, you won't. However, it is possible. If you have some hand-tuned
assembly that uses instructions only present on the pentium, you would need
to also provide a binary that doesn't contain the pentium-specific opcodes in
order to run on a 486. So you might end up with a binary that has two
architectures:
i386: CPU_TYPE_I386 CPU_SUBTYPE_ANY
i586: CPU_TYPE_I386 CPU_SUBTYPE_I586
When run on the pentium, the i586 binary will be executed. When run on
an i486, the i386 binary will be executed.
>writing some macro or application to automatically process these
>files, then you *must* take this fact into account.
The application I'm writing will simply look at the cputype field, which will
always be type 'i386' for intel. So all intel binaries will be extracted
into the "I"ntel file, regardless of their subtype.
--
Jonathan
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 01:12:18 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j361j$idt@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <jlemonD4o8xJ.2op@netcom.com>
jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon) writes:
> Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
> > People who do need multiple architectures could just download
> > the NIHS (or whatever) version, and trim it down. I don't think
> > it's particularly convenient to require that *everyone* download
> > several different files and "FatMerge" them together, even if
> > someone writes a FatMerge program (which, of course, everyone
> > would have to download...).
> Why would it be inconvenient? For someone who wants all 4
> architectures, yes, 5 files would need to be downloaded, but it
> would take the same amount of time as downloading the "obese"
> app. For someone who only wants 1 arch, it boils down to:
>
> - download "obese" app, then run some kind of "thinning"
> program.
> or
> - download 2 bundles, then run "ArchMerge".
This is not what I'm suggesting. All my suggestions have been
pushing for an ftp site to have one file [thin] for each architecture,
and one more file [mab] that has all architectures. A person who
wants a single architecture has to download one file, and only one
file, to get everything for that architecture. A person who wants
more than one would download the all-architecture version, and thin
it down if they are concerned about their own disk space. (they
probably are concerned, but the thing to note is that the file they
download is immediately usable, you don't have to build anything
to "try it out").
This uses more disk space on the file server than what you are
suggesting, but it's more convenient. In the back of my mind
I'm considering the fact that the world seems to be moving
towards WWW browsers as interfaces to FTP sites, such that all
they do to download a file is click on one filename. I would
rather not turn that into downloading a bunch of files and then
needing to piece them together before you can do anything with
the program.
> In both cases, you still have to run a program after downloading,
> but in the second, you also save on download time. If you are
> using something like Yftp, just select highlight both files and
> hit "get".
In my suggestion, people who want a single architecture do not have
to do anything after downloading. People who want multiple
architectures *can* thin the MAB binary (if they want), or they
can just run the program first (to see if they care about it at
all). They don't have to first download the "ArchMerge" program,
either.
Your suggestion results in much less filespace used up on the file
server. Another advantage is that what people do have to FTP is
broken down into chunks (which would be an advantage if their
network connection is less reliable or very slow).
> I think that the majority of people only want 1-2 archs, so
> transferring the other stuff is just wasted time.
People who want one architecture would not be transfering anything
they don't need in my scheme. People who want two architectures,
however, will be transfering stuff they don't need.
> > Also remember that the universe of NeXTSTEP users still includes
> > people who are running on NeXT on NeXT hardware and NeXTSTEP
> > release 3.0.
>
> As for 3.0, (assuming by your reference that it doesn't support
> fat files) when merging in one architecture into the base package,
> just make the resultant executables 'thin' instead of fat.
Well, that remark was more just to say "When writing the ArchMerge
application, make sure it works on NS-3.0". It wasn't an argument
against writing it. It'd be *really* inconvenient for someone on
NS-3.0 if they have to hand-merge these different files, so just
keep them in mind.
The method you're proposing has significant benefits WRT disk
space on the server. It'd be nice if that could be combined
(somehow) with the ease of just clicking on a file in OmniWeb
to download it. I have started putting a few things up on my
own FTP server in the format I'm suggesting, and the added
disk space requirements are a bit of a drag. Still, disk is
cheap (well, getting cheaper at least), and I'm looking for
the most convenient solution for the (presumably many) people
who would be downloading a file.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 Imagine Driver
Date: 27 Feb 1995 17:09:43 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3itij7$sar@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <daemon9D4KwyI.C2J@netcom.com>
daemon9@netcom.com (Route) writes:
> Well, 1st quarter is nearing it's end, and still no Imagine
> Driver for NSFIP 3.3. At least, as far as I know. I called NeXT
NeXT is usually about two weeks late on drivers. I wouldn't expect to see
them until mid March at best, but I certainly wouldn't complain if they came
out earlier. 640X480 is useless.
Later, John
From: rutledge@camis.Stanford.EDU (Geoffrey Rutledge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Free solution to Q: Converting PS to Tiff, or other raster image--HOW??
Date: 2 Mar 1995 19:29:41 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3j56b5$lru@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman>
In comp.sys.next.software article <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman> you wrote:
>
[]
> I need to convert PosctScript images to a TIFF or other raster format,
[]
> Thanks, Patrick Giagnocavo
> Lancaster, PA 717-390-4370
I recently posted the code for the command-line utility "eps2tiff", which
solves the above problem, but realized it was not the most recent version of
the utility. I downloaded a more complete version of the code to orst as
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions/eps2tiff.NI.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions/eps2tiff.NI.README
I am not sure to which directory it will eventually be moved.
The usual disclaimers apply (it's primitive, but it works)
--
Geoffrey Rutledge rutledge@camis.stanford.edu
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What SCSI CDROM for CD-Play.app?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 14:29:22 -0500
Organization: College of Computing
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j56ai$5fh@gaia.cc.gatech.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: debaud
Can anyone running NS 3.3 Intel tell me what CD-ROM
(SCSI) they are using successfully to play Audio CDs?
I know that only a few can do it.
Thanks in advance,
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb: Fatal Error (#500)
Date: 2 Mar 1995 20:50:12 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3j5b24$c24@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3j3j9e$bs3@runner.uucp>
Richard Ruth writes
> OmniWeb 0.9.3 on my NeXTStation Color (3.2) was running
> very well until today. Now, as soon as I try to connect
You might want to try Version 1.0 PreRelease 1. OmniGroup snuck it out
onto the archive sites a few days ago.
--
Brent Swekla "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca PGP public key available on request
From: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FrameMaker 2.0d Basic Question
Date: 2 Mar 1995 22:05:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3j5fek$4lp@agate.berkeley.edu>
I did this exactly once, and foolishly did not note how I did it.
I've pored over the online help and a FrameMaker Solutions book, but
can't seem to find the answer to this simple question:
How can I display the formatting ruler? I have the basic display ruler, but
cannot find a way to show the formatting ruler.
Pardon my FrameMaker naivete, please email the answer below, and THANKS.
--
*******************************************************
Jessica L. Mosher
NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
--John Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: jason_fosback@psca.com (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PopOver 1.2?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 20:29:20 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3j59r0$5o3@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <3j229g$nd4@pub01.va.pubnix.com>
In article <3j229g$nd4@pub01.va.pubnix.com> mickey@va.pubnix.com (Mickey
A. Lasky) writes:
>
> Is there a significant difference between v1.2 and the older ones? I
> don't even use the interface anymore, I just have the command line run
by
> cron.
>
> ------
> Mickey Lasky mickey@va.pubnix.com
> Technical Support dokk@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
> dokk@choam.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
>
> "Do Cadbury Eggs come from Cadbury Ovaries?"
The interfaces for 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 are all virtually the same. The new
version will be quite a bit different, and have lots of new features. One
of the best features (in my opinion), is a Mail-like listing of your
remote messages. You'll be able to selectively retrieve and delete mail.
A lot of annoying little things have been fixed (e.g., the message dates
now come down correctly), and the command line version of PopOver can now
handle a lot of functions (e.g., add/delete mail hosts).
I hope to be able to release a new version within the next couple of
weeks.
-jason
_____________________________________________________________________
Jason Fosback, Sr. Software Engineer | Magic: The Gathering
--- Paradigm Systems Corp --- | 'Uhhh, who'd spend lot's of
Internet: jason_fosback@psca.com | money on a stupid card game?'
NeXT mail: jason_fosback@psca.com | 'Shut up Beavis, Magic's cool!'
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP for Intel????
Date: 2 Mar 1995 18:05:58 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503030005.AA14880@alleg.EDU>
>> The version of Gator ftp found compiled on the ftp
>> archives is for NeXT only is there a version for intel?
Are you looking for a version that will work with Intel?
The latest version can be found at:
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/GatorFTP.1.8
.1.NIH.b.tar.gz
it will work on NeXTs, Intels, and HPs.
>> If not how do I contact the authors
gatorftp@gauss.cl.uh.edu
is the address in the "Info/Suggestion" panel. Try there.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dekorte@simmons.bos.marble.com (Steve Dekorte)
Subject: Re: What about a newsgroup for Nextstep people icons?
Message-ID: <D4uBIJ.Ixv@marble.com>
Sender: news@marble.com
Organization: Marble Associates, Inc.
References: <1995Feb22.202647.2622@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 01:15:55 GMT
(Yann Lechelle) writes:
> Constantin Szallies writes
> > [...]
> >
> > My surgestion: Distribute these pictures worldwide via Usenet!!!
>
> how about a simple ftp directory instead ?
I could put together an FTP script that people could run to autmagicaly
pull down the latest images into /LocalLibrary/images and do a
mailDBupdate.
Now if only newsgrazer supported images of people like NeXTmail does...
--
Steve Dekorte
NeXTstep/Objective-C developer
dekorte@marble.com (NeXTmail welcome)
http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: atlas@alpha.bin-sixx.com (Atlas Computer Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WD_1_GIG_DRIVE
Date: 2 Mar 1995 17:09:28 -0500
Organization: Binary Sixx Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <3j5fmo$d62@alpha.bin-sixx.com>
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From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IPCFlushOutput: failed to flush output for stream?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 23:05:17 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3j5ivd$1hs@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I recently noticed these messages in /private/adm/messages, for example:
Feb 26 22:37:39 phoenix Window Server[166]: IPCFlushOutput: failed to
flush output for stream0x30445c.
What do these mean? I don't seem to get a lot of them. What are the
usual causes?
Thanks,
David Finton
From: soonam@isse.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP emulation software?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 3 Mar 1995 07:25:27 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <3j6g98$bof@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <3j2ijj$29m@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Douglas Scott (doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) wrote:
: I have been told that there is SLIP/PPP emulation software available which
: allows users to telnet into a machine from some starting point (to which they
: had connected via dialup) and then run the emulator on that machine, which
: allows the user to start SLIP or PPP on their local machine and have it
: communicate with the machine to which they telnetted -- via SLIP.
: Is anyone aware of software like this that runs on the NeXT? It would be
: extremely useful for a site like ours where the campus modem pool allows
: telnet connections but not direct SLIP ones.
TIA and SLIPKNOT are the software you are mantioned.
In my school TIA is installed at DEC machine. Actually you don't need
to run this software at NeXT machine. Is NeXT machine is only machine
that you have account on ? I guess you have a NeXT home.
So, first install any version of TIA at your remote machine (school)
such as SUN,DEC(OSF) etc..
You don't need to install this software at you home NeXT.Instead of TIA
you have to install SLIP at your NeXT (TIA is SLIP Emulator, at remote side)
(YOu can install SLIP at your machine,don't you?)
But here is some problem while I use this,
when I use WinSock at PC, I could disable SLIP mode and manually do dial-up
and login and run TIA at remote and back to PC and enable SLIP again.
But with NeXT SLIP, I could not disable SLIP mode.(well you may write
a script but I could not :(
So, first I did dial -up with "kermit" and after running TIA, remove the
LCK file and run SLIP at NeXT. It works... I can telnet and ftp directly
from my NeXT . But I could not execute OmniWeb (Crashed).
There might be better solution.. but sorry I don;t know.
This is waht I did with TIA...
<Soonam>
: --
: Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
: Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
: Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
: <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: psout file?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 23:09:06 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3j5j6i$1hv@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I just noticed another error file, psout. I think it was in /private/adm,
although I'm not on the same machine now, so I can't check.
The contents were the following:
%%[ Error: invalidid; OffendingCommand: getevents ]%%
Can anyone tell me what sort of thing generates such errors?
Thanks,
David Finton
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Searching for multi-word targets in Librarian?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 23:14:57 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3j5jhh$1ma@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I was trying to search for two-word targets in Librarian. The
documentation gives the example of "oldtime fiddle," and I
verified that I can set the search to "literal" and get all
instances of this pairing---but only if they occur without a
line break.
That means that Librarian doesn't find "oldtime fiddle" in the
following example:
Here's an example of text with the string oldtime
fiddle, and Librarian won't find the target. Too bad.
I'm still a newbie to Librarian. Can anyone tell me a way of
getting Librarian to do what I want here? I want to find *all*
instances of a target, even if the text happened to break the
line between the words.
Thanks,
David Finton
From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: App Launch from unix shell
Date: 2 Mar 1995 16:41:53 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j4sgh$ivb@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3j4kgo$b33@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Helmut Heller writes
>I want to start an application (Tailor) on a remote host and
>redirect its output to my host. One (cumbersome) way is to log
>onto the remote machine, and call s.th. like
>/LocalApps/Tailor.app/Tailor -NXHost <my-machine> & where I have
>to type all of it.
>
>If I use the new open: appopen Tailor -NXHost <remote-machine> I
>can open a remote copy of tailor, but it will NOT redirect its
>output to my machine, but instead tries to contact the remote
>workspace. And if no one is logged onto the remote console, I
>get DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host
><remote-machine>
>
>Hmm, am I doing s.th. completely wrong here? Can be done what I
>want? Easily (see above)?
>
>BTW: the remote and local machine do NOT share the same file system,
>no cross-mountings. But I can always ftp files back and forth.
Try something like this:
rsh otherhost /LocalApps/Tailor.app/Tailor -NXHost yourhost &
If it's an app you need to run as root, this:
/bin/su - -c 'rsh otherhost /LocalApps/Tailor.app/Tailor \
-NXHost yourhost &'
If it's something you do frequently, put this in your .cshrc:
alias foo /bin/su - -c \'rsh otherhost \
/LocalApps/Tailor.app/Tailor -NXHost yourhost \&\'
Of course, substitute the appropriate names for your situation.
I've been doing this for a long time and it works fine. Hope this
is helpful.
-m
---
Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Suite 207 Vox: 215/653-0911
909 Sumneytown Pike
Springhouse, PA 19477
From: rutledge@camis.Stanford.EDU (Geoffrey Rutledge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Free solution: Converting PS to Tiff, or other raster image--HOW??
Date: 2 Mar 1995 16:58:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3j4tfm$ij0@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman>
In article <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman> patrickg@feynman.success.net writes:
> I need to convert PosctScript images to a TIFF or other raster format, .
[]
> Thanks, Patrick Giagnocavo
> Lancaster, PA 717-390-4370
Here is the manpage, and the code, for a simple (but free) utility to
accomplish the above. NeXTStEP makes this too easy!
--
Geoffrey Rutledge rutledge@camis.stanford.edu
================
cat /usr/local/man/cat1/eps2tiff.1
EPS2TIFF(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual EPS2TIFF(1)
NAME
eps2tiff - convert ps or eps graphic files to tiff
format to make slides.
SYNOPSIS
eps2tiff [ -s n -d n -z -j n ] inputfile outputfile
DESCRIPTION
This utility will convert an EPS file into a tiff file. You set the
size(by setting a scale factor) and depth (in bits/pixel) with command
switches. The default size is the size in the BoundingBox in the EPS
file. The default depth is 24 bits/pixel.
The program works by taking advantage of the ImageRep object's ability to
convert from one format to another. The program reads the input file
(which can be tiff OR ps), then writes the output file in the specified
tiff format. It can be useful in slide making
OPTIONS
-s n
Scale factor n
-d n
Depth in bits/pixel, with chices of 2, 8, 12 or 24 (default)
-z
Causes the file to be saved in l-z-w compressed form
-j n
Causes the file to be saved in jpeg compressed form,
with compression factor n in the range 1.0 - 255.0.
Note that if n is 0, the default compression (10.0) is
used. Only works for tiffs with at least 4 bits
per pixel.
BUGS
Note that there is very little error checking for invalid
arguments. Use at your own risk.
I also note that the input file can be a tiff file or an
eps or ps -- all that I tried seemed to work. The program
does occupy large amounts of swap
space during compression of large tiff files, though.
To use for slide making the program "eps2tiff" can be used
to make 1000 x 1500 .tiff files for each slide. I found that
this resolution was not really publication quality, BTW.
Larger tiff files get very cumbersome to manipulate (each
24 bit color slide was over 1 MB, compressed).
CREDITS
Tom Swanner III (bizarre@clients-r-us.tamu.edu)
Geoffrey Rutledge (rutledge@camis.stanford.edu)
Manpage: Rafael Munoz-Carpena (carpena@next1.bae.ncsu.edu)
===================
#include <stdio.h>
#import <dpsclient/event.h>
#import <appkit/appkit.h>
#import <appkit/NXImage.h>
#import <appkit/NXEPSImageRep.h>
#import <appkit/NXBitmapImageRep.h>
#import <appkit/View.h>
#import <appkit/Window.h>
#import <appkit/graphics.h>
#import <appkit/tiff.h>
#import <streams/streams.h>
// to compile cc -g -o eps2tiff eps2tiff.m -lNeXT_s
void main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
NXStream *fp, *fpz;
id myRep, myWindow;
NXSize theSize;
char filename[80];
extern char *optarg;
extern int optind;
int scale = 1;
int c;
int depth = 24;
//added by GWR, 10/27/92
int compressionType = NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_NONE;
int errflg = 0;
id myTiffRep;
float compressionFactor = 0.0;
optind = 1;
while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "zj:d:s:")) != EOF) {
switch (c) {
case 'd': {
(void) sscanf (optarg, "%d", &depth);
break;
}
case 's': {
(void) sscanf (optarg, "%d", &scale);
break;
}
case 'z': {
compressionType = NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_LZW;
break;
}
case 'j': {
compressionType = NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_JPEG;
(void) sscanf (optarg, "%f", &compressionFactor);
break;
}
default: {
errflg++;
}
}
if (errflg) {
fprintf(stderr, "Usage:eps2tiff [-d nn] [-s nn] [-z] [-j nn] infile
outfile\n");
exit(2);
}
}
strcpy(filename, argv[optind++]);
fprintf(stderr,"input = %s scale = %d\n", filename, scale);
[Application new];
myWindow = [[Window alloc] init];
[myWindow setDepthLimit: NX_TwentyFourBitRGBDepth];
fp = NXOpenMemory(NULL, 0, NX_READWRITE);
myRep = [[NXImage alloc] initFromFile:filename];
[myRep getSize: &theSize]; /* this is where you get the size */
[myRep setScalable: YES]; /* this is where you change it! */
theSize.width *= scale;
theSize.height *= scale;
[myRep setSize: &theSize];
[myRep setBackgroundColor: NX_COLORWHITE];
[myRep setCacheDepthBounded:NO];
if ([myRep isCacheDepthBounded]) fprintf(stderr,"CacheDepth is Bounded\n");
switch (depth) {
case 2: {
[myRep useCacheWithDepth: NX_TwoBitGrayDepth];
break;
}
case 8: {
[myRep useCacheWithDepth: NX_EightBitGrayDepth];
break;
}
case 12: {
[myRep useCacheWithDepth: NX_TwelveBitRGBDepth];
break;
}
case 24: {
[myRep useCacheWithDepth: NX_TwentyFourBitRGBDepth];
break;
}
default: {
fprintf(stderr, "You want a depth of %d but I can only give\
you 2, 8, 12 or 24 bit depth...\nyou will get 24 bits this time\n", depth);
}
}
[myRep writeTIFF: fp allRepresentations: NO];
if (((compressionType == NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_LZW)||(compressionType ==
NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_JPEG)) &&(depth==2)){
fprintf(stderr, "Unable to compress a 2-bit grayscale image: saving as
uncompressed\n");
compressionType = NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_NONE;
}
switch (compressionType) {
case NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_NONE: {
NXSaveToFile(fp, argv[optind]);
NXCloseMemory(fp, NX_FREEBUFFER);
break;
}
case NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_JPEG:{
fpz = NXOpenMemory(NULL, 0, NX_READWRITE);
if (!(myTiffRep = [[NXBitmapImageRep alloc]
initFromStream:fp]))
fprintf(stderr,"myTiffRep failed initialization\n");
NXCloseMemory(fp, NX_FREEBUFFER);
fprintf(stderr, "Compressing file %s as jpeg(%f)... ",filename,
compressionFactor);
[myTiffRep writeTIFF:fpz
usingCompression:NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_JPEG andFactor:compressionFactor];
fprintf(stderr, "Writing %s \n",argv[optind]);
NXSaveToFile(fpz, argv[optind]);
NXCloseMemory(fpz, NX_FREEBUFFER);
break;
}
case NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_LZW:{
fpz = NXOpenMemory(NULL, 0, NX_READWRITE);
if (!(myTiffRep = [[NXBitmapImageRep alloc]
initFromStream:fp]))
fprintf(stderr,"myTiffRep failed initialization\n");
NXCloseMemory(fp, NX_FREEBUFFER);
fprintf(stderr, "Compressing file %s as lzw-tiff...
",filename);
[myTiffRep writeTIFF:fpz
usingCompression:NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_LZW];
fprintf(stderr, "Writing %s \n",argv[optind]);
NXSaveToFile(fpz, argv[optind]);
NXCloseMemory(fpz, NX_FREEBUFFER);
break;
}
}
}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Marketing: was - Re: DOTS and 3.3
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <D4q3p5.88@vergil.ping.de>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:14:41 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Mar2.221441.2989@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <D4q3p5.88@vergil.ping.de> lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich
Kahl) writes:
> Why is Software in the USA so much cheaper than in Europe
> (including European products), so that German Nextusergroups buy there ?
> Lighthouse did a step in this direction, very good. More ...
I don't know what prices are in Germany, but I do know about Europe.
Two points:
firstly, we set our prices to match USA software prices with a small
excess for shipping and duty. This means that our customers who buy from
us will pay less than if they bought direct from the USA.
Secondly, a number of ISVs refuse to allow us to offer academic prices.
This should be blamed on those ISVs, and not European resellers. We
follow the above policy for academic prices as well as commercial, where
we are allowed to offer them. This means that we make no profit (in
practice) on academic prices, but are happy to handle academic purchases
as a service to our customers.
> Why didn t European resellers offer Office-Software-Solutions for
NeXTstep
> in PC-Magazins for a few bucks like Microsoft or apple resellers ?
We advertised for some time (about six months) in UK magazines, including
productivity applications. The response was barely above zero. With a
market like the NeXTSTEP market, you have to approach it differently; it
doesn't react like the PC market. It is much more sensitive to good
service for one thing; and we have had good service from d'ART.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gcl
Date: 2 Mar 1995 17:04:29 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3j4tqt$n90@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3j1869$d42@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr>
In article <3j1869$d42@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> chiron@lune.ipl.fr (Benoit
Chiron) writes:
>
> Has anyone compiled gcl for NeXT on intel hardware. I have
> problems to do it.
Here are the changes (to either gcl-1.0 or gcl-1.1) that
I make to get it to work on intel hardware (edited slightly
to try to remove stuff that is specific to our situation):
Modify files (included below)
h/NeXT.h
h/NeXT.defs
c/NeXTunixsave.c
c/NeXTunixfasl.c
Run
add-defs NeXT
make
------------------------------------------------------------------------
change h/NeXT.defs to this:
#
# For NeXT Operating system 3.
#
LBINDIR=/Local/Unix/bin
OFLAG= -O
LIBS= -u _SNDReadSoundfile -u _SNDStartPlaying -u _SNDWait -u
_SNDFree -u _SNDStop -u _SNDSetHost -u _SNDAcquire -u
_snddriver_get_device_parms -u _SNDRelease -u _snddriver_set_device_parms
-u _snddriver_get_volume -u _snddriver_set_volume -u _snddriver_set_ramp
-u _valloc -u _mutex_try_lock -u _mutex_wait_lock -u _cthread_detach -u
_port_set_allocate -u _port_set_add -u _port_set_deallocate -u
_name_server_port -u _mach_error_string -u _port_allocate -u
_port_deallocate -u _mig_get_reply_port -u _msg_rpc -u _msg_send -u
_mig_dealloc_reply_port -u _sscanf -lsys_s -lm
LIBC=
ODIR_DEBUG= -g
CC= cc -O3 -DVOL=volatile -I$(AKCLDIR)/o -fwritable-strings
# The option -seglinkedit is specified so that rld_load() can be used.
LDCC= ld -X -seglinkedit -segprot __TEXT rwx rwx /lib/crt0.o
# bcmp(), bcopy(), and bzero() are already included in the NeXT C library.
LIBFILES=
CFLAGS = -c $(DEFS) -I../h
MAIN = ../o/main.o
INITFORM=(setq compiler::*cc* "cc -O3 -DVOL=volatile -fwritable-strings")
MPFILES=$(MPDIR)/mpi.o $(MPDIR)/libmport.a
# Use symbolic links
SYMB=-s
# the make to use for saved_kcp the profiler.
KCP=kcp-next
------------------------------------------------------------------------
change h/NeXT.h to this:
#ifndef NeXT
#define NeXT
#endif
#include "bsd.h"
#undef SFASL
#undef HAVE_AOUT
#define PAGEWIDTH 12
/* The following value determines the running process size. */
#define BIG_HEAP_SIZE 0x2000000
#undef MAXPAGE
#define MAXPAGE (2*16384)
#undef SET_REAL_MAXPAGE
#define SET_REAL_MAXPAGE \
{ extern int mach_maplimit; sbrk(0); real_maxpage =
mach_maplimit/PAGESIZE; }
#define sbrk my_sbrk
#define ADDITIONAL_FEATURES \
ADD_FEATURE("MACH"); \
ADD_FEATURE("NeXT"); \
ADD_FEATURE("NEXT"); \
ADD_FEATURE("NEXT-3.0"); \
ADD_FEATURE("I386"); \
ADD_FEATURE("TURBO-CLOSURE"); \
ADD_FEATURE("TURBO-CLOSURE-ENV-SIZE")
#define CLEAR_CACHE
#define UNIXSAVE "NeXTunixsave.c"
#define UNIXFASL "NeXTunixfasl.c"
#define SEEK_TO_END_OFILE seek_to_end_ofile
#define I386
#define IEEEFLOAT
/* we can use the system malloc without interference with
lisp storage allocation */
#define DONT_NEED_MALLOC
#ifdef IN_MAIN
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>
#endif
char *find_executable();
#define LITTLE_ENDIAN
/* Begin for cmpinclude */
#define HAVE_ALLOCA
#ifdef __GNUC__
#undef __BUILTIN_VA_ARG_INCR
#endif
/* End for cmpinclude */
------------------------------------------------------------------------
in c/NeXTunixfasl.c change the includes from
#include <mach.h>
#include <sys/loader.h>
#include <rld.h>
to
#include <mach/mach.h>
#include <mach-o/loader.h>
#include <mach-o/rld.h>
Then delete both references to asm("trap #2") --
change
asm("trap #2"); /* clear cache */
call_init(entry - object_start, memory, fasl_data);
to:
call_init(entry - object_start, memory, fasl_data);
(occurs twice).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
in c/NeXTunixsave.c change the includes from:
#include <mach.h>
#include <sys/loader.h>
to:
#include <mach/mach.h>
#include <mach-o/loader.h>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please let me know if this is incomplete or inaccurate.
(bil@ccrma.stanford.edu)
In article <3j1869$d42@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr> chiron@lune.ipl.fr (Benoit
Chiron) writes:
>
> Has anyone compiled gcl for NeXT on intel hardware. I have
> problems to do it.
Here are the changes (to either gcl-1.0 or gcl-1.1) that
I make to get it to work on intel hardware (edited slightly
to try to remove stuff that is specific to our situation):
Modify files (included below)
h/NeXT.h
h/NeXT.defs
c/NeXTunixsave.c
c/NeXTunixfasl.c
Run
add-defs NeXT
make
------------------------------------------------------------------------
change h/NeXT.defs to this:
#
# For NeXT Operating system 3.
#
LBINDIR=/Local/Unix/bin
OFLAG= -O
LIBS= -u _SNDReadSoundfile -u _SNDStartPlaying -u _SNDWait -u
_SNDFree -u _SNDStop -u _SNDSetHost -u _SNDAcquire -u
_snddriver_get_device_parms -u _SNDRelease -u _snddriver_set_device_parms
-u _snddriver_get_volume -u _snddriver_set_volume -u _snddriver_set_ramp
-u _valloc -u _mutex_try_lock -u _mutex_wait_lock -u _cthread_detach -u
_port_set_allocate -u _port_set_add -u _port_set_deallocate -u
_name_server_port -u _mach_error_string -u _port_allocate -u
_port_deallocate -u _mig_get_reply_port -u _msg_rpc -u _msg_send -u
_mig_dealloc_reply_port -u _sscanf -lsys_s -lm
LIBC=
ODIR_DEBUG= -g
CC= cc -O3 -DVOL=volatile -I$(AKCLDIR)/o -fwritable-strings
# The option -seglinkedit is specified so that rld_load() can be used.
LDCC= ld -X -seglinkedit -segprot __TEXT rwx rwx /lib/crt0.o
# bcmp(), bcopy(), and bzero() are already included in the NeXT C library.
LIBFILES=
CFLAGS = -c $(DEFS) -I../h
MAIN = ../o/main.o
INITFORM=(setq compiler::*cc* "cc -O3 -DVOL=volatile -fwritable-strings")
MPFILES=$(MPDIR)/mpi.o $(MPDIR)/libmport.a
# Use symbolic links
SYMB=-s
# the make to use for saved_kcp the profiler.
KCP=kcp-next
------------------------------------------------------------------------
change h/NeXT.h to this:
#ifndef NeXT
#define NeXT
#endif
#include "bsd.h"
#undef SFASL
#undef HAVE_AOUT
#define PAGEWIDTH 12
/* The following value determines the running process size. */
#define BIG_HEAP_SIZE 0x2000000
#undef MAXPAGE
#define MAXPAGE (2*16384)
#undef SET_REAL_MAXPAGE
#define SET_REAL_MAXPAGE \
{ extern int mach_maplimit; sbrk(0); real_maxpage =
mach_maplimit/PAGESIZE; }
#define sbrk my_sbrk
#define ADDITIONAL_FEATURES \
ADD_FEATURE("MACH"); \
ADD_FEATURE("NeXT"); \
ADD_FEATURE("NEXT"); \
ADD_FEATURE("NEXT-3.0"); \
ADD_FEATURE("I386"); \
ADD_FEATURE("TURBO-CLOSURE"); \
ADD_FEATURE("TURBO-CLOSURE-ENV-SIZE")
#define CLEAR_CACHE
#define UNIXSAVE "NeXTunixsave.c"
#define UNIXFASL "NeXTunixfasl.c"
#define SEEK_TO_END_OFILE seek_to_end_ofile
#define I386
#define IEEEFLOAT
/* we can use the system malloc without interference with
lisp storage allocation */
#define DONT_NEED_MALLOC
#ifdef IN_MAIN
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>
#endif
char *find_executable();
#define LITTLE_ENDIAN
/* Begin for cmpinclude */
#define HAVE_ALLOCA
#ifdef __GNUC__
#undef __BUILTIN_VA_ARG_INCR
#endif
/* End for cmpinclude */
------------------------------------------------------------------------
in c/NeXTunixfasl.c change the includes from
#include <mach.h>
#include <sys/loader.h>
#include <rld.h>
to
#include <mach/mach.h>
#include <mach-o/loader.h>
#include <mach-o/rld.h>
Then delete both references to asm("trap #2") --
change
asm("trap #2"); /* clear cache */
call_init(entry - object_start, memory, fasl_data);
to:
call_init(entry - object_start, memory, fasl_data);
(occurs twice).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
in c/NeXTunixsave.c change the includes from:
#include <mach.h>
#include <sys/loader.h>
to:
#include <mach/mach.h>
#include <mach-o/loader.h>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please let me know if this is incomplete or inaccurate.
(bil@ccrma.stanford.edu)
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: moron seeks advice
Date: 2 Mar 1995 17:21:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3j4ur9$fch@mark.ucdavis.edu>
I cannot get a graphics window to open when I log on through a modem
to a university--a colleague has a Mac that came over on a covered
wagon and he has a regular and a graphics window open automatic--
this is embarrassing that NeXT does not have a auto pilot on in this
catagorie--I have Stuart, Terminal, and yes X-Windows on my NeXTstation.
Somebody, somewhere, please tell me that I am an absolute moron
and then tell me how to get a graphics window opened via a modem
when logged in to a remote machine.
desperate
From: Clark Don Woolstenhulme <cdw0001@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Help on video drivers, etc.
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 20:13:47 -0600
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950301194420.20698A-100000@jove.acs.unt.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hello everybody! I've got a copy of NSi 3.2 that I really need to get
installed soon. The problem is, I got my new computer (AMD DX2/80 w/16MB)
before I realised that it would be the one running NSi. Now I've got a
couple of problems. (I have tried to install it before.)
I borrowed a friend's Adaptec 1542C and another friend's NEC 3Xi for the
installation, but my hard drive is one of the new Western Digital EIDE
850MB harddrives on a Promise EIDE2300+ controller. We never tried to use
my Mitsumi 4X that's hooked up to it. The initial problem was that NS
install would only recognize ~500MB of the harddrive. My tech friend who
put the thing together and later fixed it up said that it was because the
EIDE controller was doing the LBA and not the motherboard, or so he
thinks. Should this be fixed now that I've got my new motherboard (a
486-DL GREEN/VESA with the OPTi chipset) doing the LBA support?
Next problem: The video card. It's an ATI WinTurbo Pro (68860GX w/2MB).
Since this computer was originally intended for my dad to use in a DOS/WIN
setup, my friend got this card. However, the ATImach32 drivers don't work
(the screen just turns red) and the only mach64 drivers are for 3.3.
My question: Do the 3.3 drivers work for 3.2? I highly doubt it, so my
other question: Are there any mach64 drivers out there for 3.2, beta, in
the works, anything? If not, somebody please recommend what video card I
should trade for?
And finally,
Does anyone have a ready-for-NEXTSTEP-installation SCSI adapter for sale?
I can't spend more than about $80-$90.
OR
Would there by any chance be drivers for my Promise2300+?
Thank you very much for your time!
Clark Woolstenhulme
cdw0001@jove.acs.unt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC PKZIP format support?
Message-ID: <1995Mar3.123921.944@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 3 Mar 95 12:39:21 WET
References: <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu>
penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose) wrote:
>Help!
>I have a pc friend without UNIX access that is trying to send
>me a large archive of html files. He can throw them together
>into a pk_zip file, but I haven't been able to find a UNIX
>version of pk_zip. Anyone with a clue? Thanks!
>Christopher Penrose
>penrose@ucsd.edu
>http://crca-www.ucsd.edu/TajMahal/after.html
Why don't you both get a copy of the gnu zip/unzip?
--
Mike Davis.
miked@ittpub.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kmorgan@scs412.csc.wsu.edu (Keith Morgan)
Subject: desktop pattern maker?
Message-ID: <D4sMt9.Fv@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 03:24:45 GMT
Is there any software out there that will allow me to display a GIF file
as the desktop pattern on a NeXT?
Thanks,
K.C.
kmorgan@scs411.csc.wsu.edu
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NeXTStep Self-Consciously Marginalized
Date: 3 Mar 1995 13:16:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3j74qm$p69@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950302003930.13644A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu> <3j73os$ova@news.service.uci.edu>
Damn, after costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars I botched it.
Browsers on the NeXT should not read:
>OmniWeb or Netscape
Should read OmniWeb or SpiderWoman.
Kurt
From: jch@old-cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: trn for NextStep -- it needs inews -- Where to get it?
Date: 2 Mar 1995 20:15:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <3j5911$ou@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <3j08tc$63t@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I got nntpclnt-1.6.1 to compile, and it includes an inews that works fine
with trn. I got it from ftp.uu.net. As I recall, the only hard part in
the configuration was that the configure script thought my system did
not have strncasecmp, and so set a switch to compiel one in -- resulting
in a conflict for the linker. Just reset that manually, and it should be ok.
John
Todd Takken <takken@raven.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>I have compiled trn under NextStep 3.2 and can read news with trn on
>a vt100 terminal. However, trn apparently needs inews in order to send
>posted messages to the network nntp server. I am unable to find a version
>of inews which I can compile. Can anybody tell me where to get a version
>of inews which will compile under NextStep 3.2?
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help with SoftPC 3.0 / NS 3.3 (m68k) wanted
Date: 28 Feb 1995 09:55:33 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3iurul$3a1@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
I bought SoftPC 3.0 Professional when it came out in May 93 and was so
disappointed with its performance that I have never used it. Recently, however,
I have tried to reinstall it as I need to run some DOS programs. Problem is -
it won't run, nor will it accept any address I give it for the hard disk file.
I have tried editing the setup file in SoftPC, but to no avail. I am running NS
3.3 - is it possible that SoftPC 3.0 is not compatible with 3.3 ?
Any thoughts on this would be most welcome.
--
Donald Baird Phone: +44 1786 467926
Environment Group Fax : +44 1786 472133
Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
Stirling University W3 : http://www.stirling.ac.uk/
Scotland FK9 4LA
* * * * * * * * * * * * * NeXT / MIME Mail Welcome! * * * * * * * * * *
From: darohn@giganext (Douglas A Rohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, what is wrong?
Date: 3 Mar 1995 17:34:41 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Message-ID: <3j7jvh$jnc@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
References: <9503012023.AA00201@alleg.EDU>
In article <9503012023.AA00201@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J
Luoma) writes:
> Newsgrazer 3.75 crahes just after starting. what is wrong?
>
> More than likely someone has posted a post with a strange header.
>
> This causes NewsGrazer to expel previously chewed bytes all over the
> place (aka crash)
>
> Trick (usually) is to turn off the "presort" and "prefetch article
> title" preferences.
>
> Start newsgrazer again, and then keep track of the article numbers.
> When you find the one that causes it to crash (it's easy to tell),
> edit your .newsrc to show that you have already read that article.
I've done that, but what a pain! Is there anything else to do?
--
Douglas A. Rohn-----STANDARD DISCLAIMER-----"What...Me worry?"
darohn@giganext.lerc.nasa.gov
From: john.bartholdi@isye.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GatorFTP
Date: 3 Mar 1995 14:47:13 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3j7a5h$1i3@mordred.gatech.edu>
Hello,
I have been unable to find GatorFTP; can anyone point me to an ftp site
that might carry it?
Thanks,
John
--------------------------------------------
John J. Bartholdi, III
School of Industrial & Systems Engineering
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, Georgia 30332
<D4uBIJ.Ixv@marble.com> dekorte@simmons.bos.marble.com (Steve
Dekorte) writes:
}~ (Yann Lechelle) writes:
}~ > Constantin Szallies writes
}~ > > [...]
}~ > >
}~ > > My surgestion: Distribute these pictures worldwide via Usenet!!!
Been suggested before. Never has taken off (yet).
}~ > how about a simple ftp directory instead ?
Did the orst Mail pictures directory disappear? I hadn't
noticed. Must have gotten lost when they moved it.
}~ I could put together an FTP script that people could
}~ run to autmagicaly pull down the latest images into
}~ /LocalLibrary/images and do a mailDBupdate.
}~
}~ Now if only newsgrazer supported images of people like
}~ NeXTmail does...
As far as I know it still does. Pictures appear to the
left of the calendar. The only problem is that the naming
convention is slightly different between Mail.app and NG.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: NXFax with USR Sportster V.34
Message-ID: <D4vqst.48M@fritz.snafu.de>
Organization: dasburo Berlin
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:43:41 GMT
Hallo,
I am looking after a customer's site, who has a NXFax license for a
ZyXEL 1496+ modem. He wants to switch to an USR Sportster V.34
now.
Does NXFax 1.04 support this modem ?
Can my customer switch to the USR Sportster V.34 without
NXFax configuration changes ?
I guess the USR Sportster V.34 needs a different fax modem
driver than the ZyXEL.
Thanks for any info, Ernst.
--
--------------------------------------------
Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de
--------------------------------------------
From: atlas@alpha.bin-sixx.com (Atlas Computer Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3j5fmo$d62@alpha.bin-sixx.com>
Message-ID: <cancel.3j5fmo$d62@alpha.bin-sixx.com>
Date: 3 Mar 1995 16:06:15 GMT
Control: cancel <3j5fmo$d62@alpha.bin-sixx.com>
spam
From: ardell@dobzhansky.Stanford.EDU (David Ardell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: elm vs pine (was: MIME mail for NeXT??)
Date: 27 Feb 1995 23:38:14 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3itnp6$l0f@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3ijfrh$c57@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Sorry if this has hack already been posted...
You can see mail with pine that has been moved by Mail (we use V 3.2) by
creating a symbolic link inside the mail folder like so:
ln -s ../Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox Nextmail
This is convenient when you dial in to your network and so on...
I suspect this hack might work with elm, its worth a try.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Does an equivalent of Lotus Improv exist?
Message-ID: <D4vwEv.5oE@RnA.NL>
Sender: news@RnA.NL
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 21:44:54 GMT
Man do I love Lotus. I had to use it again this week and I realy like the way
it does the categories, the flip-flopping of orders, axes, etc.
Lotus did ship it for Windows but they apparently dropped it again.
So, my question: does an equivalent spreadsheet exist for NEXTSTEP? If I
furnish an office with NS/FIP is there a "Lotus Improv" to be used?
Thanks,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: judy@media.com (Judy Morgan)
Subject: Regression Test Tools
Message-ID: <1995Mar1.002955.2267@media.com>
Sender: usenet@media.com (News Maintenace Account)
Organization: Multimedia Learning, Inc.
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 00:29:55 GMT
Does anyone know of a regression test tool for NEXTSTEP? We need to test
user interface functionality (like X-Runner does for X-Windows apps).
Thanks for ANY help!!
Judy Morgan
Multimedia Healthcare Systems, Inc.
judy@media.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: moron seeks advice
In-Reply-To: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu's message of 2 Mar 1995 17:21:45 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Mar3012552@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3j4ur9$fch@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 06:25:52 GMT
>>>>> "Pat" == Pat Martin <pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu> writes:
Pat> I cannot get a graphics window to open when I log on through
Pat> a modem to a university--a colleague has a Mac that came over
Pat> on a covered wagon and he has a regular and a graphics window
Pat> open automatic-- this is embarrassing that NeXT does not have
Pat> a auto pilot on in this catagorie--I have Stuart, Terminal,
Pat> and yes X-Windows on my NeXTstation. Somebody, somewhere,
Pat> please tell me that I am an absolute moron and then tell me
Pat> how to get a graphics window opened via a modem when logged
Pat> in to a remote machine.
Pat> desperate
What you need is a special connection with your internet provider.
A SLIP or PPP account is needed. Also, if you plan to make extensive
use of XWindows you will need a fast modem (28800bps). There are
public domain versions of SLIP and PPP emulators but they are quite
difficult to install. I don't know much about networks and I was able
to install SLIP without problems. I guess I was lucky because I see
so much people having problems. Maybe you could try. First look if
you can get a SLIP or PPP connection with your system operator.
Feel free to ask any further question.
Francois Magnan
--
______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tk, expectk for NS?
Date: 28 Feb 1995 15:33:24 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <3ivc7k$2t5@byleist.ifi.uio.no>
Has anyone ported Tk and Expectk to NS, if so where can I find it?
Arne
--
(arneha@ifi.uio.no)
--
(arneha@ifi.uio.no)
From: madon@didec20.epfl.ch (Dominik Madon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fortran compiler
Date: 2 Mar 1995 07:35:11 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Message-ID: <3j3sff$9um@disunms.epfl.ch>
References: <3ivj00$d44@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> <3j2i3g$1k2m@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
System Administrator (sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: Richard M. Haas (rhaas@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
: : Hi there -
: : I don't know if this exists in the FAQ or not, but I need specifics
: : anyway. Does anyone know of a good cheap fortran compiler for the
: : NeXT?
There's the GCC frontend g77 currently available on prep.ai.mit.edu and on
other mirror sites.
Dominik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jcox@pgh.nauticom.net (Joel Cox)
Subject: Series of Qs
Message-ID: <D4uAFH.Ln3@pgh.nauticom.net>
Organization: Nauticom - Internet Access Provider
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 00:52:29 GMT
Okay First Off. I'm a student and I have an IBM at home and A NeXT
account at school. I need a program that will emulator NeXT programs so
that I can cut up huge files and take data home such as sounds. Is their
any program out that will do that?
Second off. We've been using OmniWeb for a year now and now it want's us
to get a later version. I d/l the one it wanted and that didn't work.
Third off. How to do keep OmniWeb from making a /tmp directory and keep
the files in a "visible" directory that can be access and cleaned out?
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|--------------| | E-Mail Great? Don't forget to |
| |-----------------------| Right back now. There's probably|
| | | A Return Reciept on this so I |
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From: ambi@indra.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, what is wrong?
Date: 3 Mar 1995 18:51:45 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <3j7og1$efj@news.bu.edu>
References: <3j7jvh$jnc@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
In article <3j7jvh$jnc@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> darohn@giganext (Douglas A
Rohn) writes:
> > Start newsgrazer again, and then keep track of the article numbers.
> > When you find the one that causes it to crash (it's easy to tell),
> > edit your .newsrc to show that you have already read that article.
>
>
> I've done that, but what a pain! Is there anything else to do?
> --
> Douglas A. Rohn-----STANDARD DISCLAIMER-----"What...Me worry?"
> darohn@giganext.lerc.nasa.gov
What I've done is install tin. I use NewsGrazer all the time to read
news but when it crashes I'll run tin and read the unread news in my
newsgroups and then do a 'catchup'. I can then use NewsGrazer again
without a problem. It's generally not a big problem - probably easier
than constantly restarting NewsGrazer to find the bad article.
--
Mike Amirault | Email : ambi@indra.com
Uncle Mike's Fantasy Sports | Phone : (617) 527-9399
22 Broadlawn Park | Fax : (617) 527-2565
Chestnut Hill, MA. 02167 | http://www.indra.com/UncleMikes/home.html
From: far@earthlink.net (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help...PPP2.2
Date: 3 Mar 1995 19:31:02 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3j7qpm$ppd@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <3j4fr0$866@mars.earthlink.net>
As pointed out by Stephen J. Perkins, my previous post on this subject
contains an error in steps 17 and 18. "ip_up" and "ip_down" are not valid
pppd options and do not need to be included in the ppp2.2 parameters.
Thsese names are hardcoded into the software and the UNIX scripts of these
names will be called if they are available at /etc/ppp/ip-up or
/etc/ppp/ip-down.
> 17. Add "ip_up" to pppd parameters and make a UNIX script of
> the same name. This will be called when the link is
> established. The "ip_up"
> example script "ip_up.example" will:
>
> a. Setup nmserver for -HXHost sessions
> b. Start PopOver.app --A program to retrieve
> E-mail from a POP3 server
> c. Send E-mail which was put in the mail que
> while the ppp link was down.
>
> 18. Add "ip_down" to pppd parameters and make a UNIX script of
> the same name. This will be called when the link is
> terminated. The "ip_down" example script
> "ip_down.example" will:
>
> a. Terminate PopOver.app
The errors were in my notes and not in my actual configuration, so I hope
no one was inconvenienced.
Felipe A. Rodriguez
far@earthlink.net
(NeXTmail prefered)(MIMEmail welcome)
From: chipsig@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: NXFax problem
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Date: 2 Mar 1995 07:43:43 -0800
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338)
Message-ID: <3j4p3f$lsd@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
References: <D4pJF9.I5@softpac.com.au>
Dave THOMAS (dave@softpac.com.au) wrote:
: Able to send but not receive...
: Any suggestions please??
Email Black and White rick@bandw.com. Great support.
--
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| Long Beach CA Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 we could have whirled peas!"|
>-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacob Gore <jacob@blackbox.enmu.edu>
Subject: dvitty or p2c?
Sender: news@math.enmu.edu (The Garbage Heap)
Message-ID: <1995Mar1.030135.5898@math.enmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 03:01:35 GMT
Organization: Eastern New Mexico University, Department of Mathematical Sciences
Does anybody have a working binary (m68k, i386 or hppa) version of dvitty?
I fetched its source, but it's mostly in Pascal, and I cannot get a p2c that
generates working code either... So if you have a reliable binary of p2c,
that would help too.
(I do know about detex, but my source is mostly macros, so it won't do.)
Thanks,
Jacob
---
Jacob Gore, Eastern NM U. Jacob@BlackBox.ENMU.Edu | Jacob@ToolCASE.Com
Member of the League for Programming Freedom (LPF)--lpf@uunet.uu.net
From: tg@isye.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NS 3.3 on Sparc questions
Date: 3 Mar 1995 21:02:18 GMT
Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j804q$sc8@mordred.gatech.edu>
Keywords: Sparc, OpenStep, SunVideo, MBONE, multicasting
I run Solaris 2.4 on a Sparc 5 with a SunVideo card. I have a 24 bit
frame buffer, 32 Meg, etc.
I am trying to decide if I want to order NeXT OS 3.3 now or wait for
OpenStep. I have been a NeXT user since it first came out, and still
keep a NeXT cube at home. If I can run NeXT OS on the Sparc, and if I
can use the SunVideo card, I would switch to NeXT OS as soon as it
becomes available.
It is necessary for me to have PPP, some WWW client (i.e., OmniWeb?),
and LaTeX (preferably LaTeX2e), as well as be able to do multicasting
since I plan to get ISDN by the end of summer. (I will have an ethernet
bridge when I get ISDN.)
Is there a driver for the SunVideo card, built into NS 3.3? Any ideas
how involved the PPP set up would be (I have been using TranSys SLIP
on the cube for over two years, and now PPP on the Sparc)?
It will be nice if there is a driver for the Wacom tablet too, which
has been gathering dust because of the serial port interference on
the cube (when using SLIP).
Any ideas, suggestions, and especially comments from any pre-release
users are welcome.
govind
T. Govindaraj +1 404 894 3873, 894 2301 (fax) NeXTmail welcome.
ISyE-0205, Georgia Tech, 765 Ferst Drive, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205, USA.
Member, League for Programming Freedom (Info from: lpf@uunet.uu.net)
http://isye.gatech.edu/~tg/index.html
From: zeno@news.abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand? - Options - Suggestions
Date: 4 Mar 1995 00:29:04 -0800
Organization: Abstract Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j98cg$jik@zebu.abstractsoft.com>
References: <3iguh8$1mn@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com> <3iq8li$pok@pong.ping.at>
is there a FREE or extremely cheap solution to the lack of NEXTSTEP
appletalk (ethertalk) support? Downgrading one of my machines to 3.0
works, but it's a less-than-optimal solution.
thanks.
--
Sean T. Lamont, Abstract Software | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts
NEXTSTEP development, TCP/IP consulting | Professional collections for NEXTSTEP
lamont@abstractsoft.com | http://www.abstractsoft.com
From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CryptorBundle 1.2 and NS3.3
Date: 3 Mar 1995 03:42:48 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3j637o$1me2@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I think there is definitely some kind of incompatibility between
CryptorBundle 1.2 and Mail 3.3.
In two sets of 10 encrypted messages sent to myself, I was able to decrypt
only the first one of set #1, and the first six of set #2.
Note that I have meticulously reinstalled 1.2 from scratch several times.
I've tried generating new keys, both with "pgpkey" and "pgp -kg" (and then
restarting Mail.app). Nothing seems to work.
If anybody has any ideas about what to try next, I'd be glad to hear them.
Has anybody else noticed this behavior?
--
Brent Swekla
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where Alexandra is
Date: 3 Mar 1995 03:20:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Message-ID: <3j61tr$1k9@network.ucsd.edu>
I have had many requests for the location of the Alexandra News Reader, which is far
superior to the Grazer, especially for its lack of crashes.
Where it is:
129.187.249.15 ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
What's there:
1995.01.18 5k pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/Alexandra.0.7.README
1995.01.18 71k pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/Alexandra.0.7.s.tar.gz
1995.01.18 513k pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/Alexandra.0.7.NIHS.b.tar.gz
H. Craig
hcraig@ucsd.edu
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there a compiled version of g77 for next?
Date: 4 Mar 1995 08:39:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3j990m$rvg@news.service.uci.edu>
Someone mentioned on this group that a gnu fortran 77, g77, exists on
prep.ai.mit.edu. I got it there, g77-0.5.13.tar.gz. But it requres
gcc 2.6.3 to go with it. It is my understanding that the next c compiler
is a modified gcc compiler. I wonder if we still need to get gcc 2.6.3 to
get g77 work, or anywhere one can find a compiled version of g77 for
either next black or next intel?
Thank you.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-824-3105 Fax: 714-824-8585
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: Re: trn for NextStep -- it needs inews -- Where to get it?
Message-ID: <D4qv46.8qE@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <3j08tc$63t@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 04:28:54 GMT
In article <3j08tc$63t@nntp.Stanford.EDU>,
Todd Takken <takken@raven.stanford.edu> wrote:
>I have compiled trn under NextStep 3.2 and can read news with trn on
>a vt100 terminal. However, trn apparently needs inews in order to send
>posted messages to the network nntp server. I am unable to find a version
>of inews which I can compile. Can anybody tell me where to get a version
>of inews which will compile under NextStep 3.2?
Try ftp.academ.com:/pub/nntpclnt - it should have the latest nntp
client stuff.
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Trouble Compiling Cern-httpd
Message-ID: <D4t1LI.17A@nyro.com>
Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:44:05 GMT
Having trouble compiling this
any pointers or should I try another
httpd?
Ian
errors so far:
% cd /private/swapdisk/tmp/O_1_cern_httpd/WWW
% ./BUILD
________________________________________________________________
WWW build for machine type: next
------ Building libwww ------
Object files of libwww will go to directory Library/next
- creating
mkdir: ../../Library/next: No such file or directory
*** Exit 1
Stop.
WWW build for next done. status = 1
If I create the /Library/next in /WWW
I then get these errors:
% ./BUILD
________________________________________________________________
WWW build for machine type: next
------ Building libwww ------
Object files of libwww will go to directory Library/next
- already exists
../../Library/Implementation/Version.make: No such file or directory
../../Library/Implementation/CommonMakefile: No such file or directory
*** Exit 1
Stop.
WWW build for next done. status = 1
%
Thanks for any help.
From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fortran compiler
Date: 2 Mar 1995 16:26:17 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j4rj9$918@news.nd.edu>
References: <3j3sff$9um@disunms.epfl.ch>
Dominik Madon writes
> System Administrator (sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca) wrote:
> : Richard M. Haas (rhaas@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
>
> : : Hi there -
> : : I don't know if this exists in the FAQ or not, but I need
specifics
> : : anyway. Does anyone know of a good cheap fortran compiler for the
> : : NeXT?
>
> There's the GCC frontend g77 currently available on prep.ai.mit.edu and
on
> other mirror sites.
>
>
> Dominik
I notice after downloading the g77 package that it requires
a recent version of gcc, such as v2.6.2 or 2.6.3. The
version I have from NS3.2 is v2.2.2. Is there anything I
need to be careful about when upgrading gcc on my NeXT?
-george
George B. Ross_____NeXTmail welcome_________gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu
Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering_______University of Notre Dame
From: chiron@lune.ipl.fr (Benoit Chiron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gcl
Date: 1 Mar 1995 07:36:41 GMT
Organization: C.I.S.M. Universite de Lyon 1 / INSA de Lyon
Message-ID: <3j1869$d42@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr>
Keywords: lisp, gcl, NeXT, intel
Has anyone compiled gcl for NeXT on intel hardware. I have
problems to do it.
Thanks.
-------------
Benoit CHIRON
chiron@cpe.ipl.fr
-------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
Subject: NXFax problem
Message-ID: <D4pJF9.I5@softpac.com.au>
Keywords: NXFax fax
Sender: dave@softpac.com.au (dave THOMAS)
Organization: Softpac Pty. Ltd., Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:18:44 GMT
Able to send but not receive...
Any suggestions please??
Rgds
dave t
DownUnder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pfkeb@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: vt100 based news reader for NextStep 3.2
In-Reply-To: takken@raven.stanford.edu's message of 26 Feb 1995 07:11:16 GMT
Message-ID: <PFKEB.95Mar3210832@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <3ip9ik$pvt@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 05:08:32 GMT
>>>>> On 26 Feb 1995 07:11:16 GMT, takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) said:
> Does anyone know where I can get a vt100 terminal based news reader
> which will compile under NextStep 3.2? NewsGrazer is great, but I
> want to read news when I'm away from my NeXT.
I use GNUS under emacs. In fact, since I mostly read news from
home with a dumb terminal, I rarely use NewsGrazer at work.
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any NeXT application for writing music?
Date: 4 Mar 1995 07:18:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3j947s$q2o@news.service.uci.edu>
Any freeware, shareware, or commercial application for writing
music with nextstep?
Thanks.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-824-3105 Fax: 714-824-8585
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where find rsynth or say ?
Date: 3 Mar 1995 12:31:28 GMT
Organization: GENIFI
Message-ID: <3j7270$7op$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
There is a program called say (also rsynth)
Do you know exactly where I can FTP these program. (please give
me the exact
directory)
Do you know if it is localisable? or only English ?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards.
Yves Pons. Email: 100321.1674@compuserve.com
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NeXTStep Self-Consciously Marginalized
Date: 3 Mar 1995 12:58:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3j73os$ova@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950302003930.13644A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu>
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950302003930.13644A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu>,
Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> wrote:
>I am a Windows NT user that after some experience with NeXT on Black
>hardware and then on Intel and after reading the good points of NeXT in
>these groups recently installed NS 3.3 on my Intel Pentium machine.
Congratulations on a successful install.
>Then I shortly ran into my personal instance of NeXT with its head in the
>clouds. There is no out of the box graphical SLIP or PPP.
It's nice to see a please new user bitch about such an obvious lack. I
hope NeXT is listening.
>NeXT has self-consciously marginalized itself as a workstation OS
>supplier in the age of the microcomputer/desktop client. This is
>self-defeating. NeXT should commission a GUI SLIP/PPP forthwith.
>Built-in ISDN would be nice.
There was a (brief) time they had something like this. PhoneKit, anyone?
What OS was that, 2.2? It died and disappeard after one? release.
Many were sad to see it go. (MiscPhoneKit, anyone?)
>The following additional software should be added ASAP for NeXT to be
>compatible with other x86 OS's. This should be out of the box.
What you're describing here is a VAR package. I don't know if anyone
does this sort of thing for NeXTSTeP yet.
Unlike MS, NeXT is not in the general Apps biz. Just OS+dev tools.
>WWW browser a la Netscape
OmniWeb or Netscape
>Microsoft Works like package
I'm not in a package market, but I know that there is (or was) one out
there.
>WWW server software with everything necessary to publish pages
Use edit! Oh, you mean wysiwyg. eText5.0, pages?, OpenWrite
(soonish/alpha).
>If NeXT had these additional features, it would be my primary OS.
Time for some net-surfing. Go to it.
Kurt
From: psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul Sanders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PopOver 1.2?
Date: 1 Mar 1995 08:58:58 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
Message-ID: <3j1d0j$icl@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I use PopOver a lot to transfer mail from work to home but I was wondering
if anyone has a pop program that will only transfer new mail - ie mail
it hasn't already transferred ?
I believe version 1.2 is now out but I can't find it anywhere - can anyone
point me in the right place for it, or tell me if it has this feature ?
Paul.
--
Paul Sanders, Information Systems | Phone: +44 1473 645716
BT Laboratories, Ipswich IP5 7RE | Fax: +44 1473 642299
psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (NeXTmail welcome)| "Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: [EMacs 4.0 on sparc 3.3]?
In-Reply-To: aoki@physics.ucla.edu's message of 04 Mar 1995 01:43:39 GMT
To: aoki@physics.ucla.edu (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.95Mar4100651@freedom.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu> <D4vwKB.GFF@lehman.com>
<AOKI.95Mar3174341@gauss.physics.ucla.edu>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 15:06:51 GMT
In article <AOKI.95Mar3174341@gauss.physics.ucla.edu> aoki@physics.ucla.edu (Ken-ichiro Aoki) writes:
In article <D4vwKB.GFF@lehman.com> jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar) writes:
I am having a segmentation fault at the line;
./temacs -batch -l loadup dump
Has anyone compiled it successfully?
I would appreciate any hint,
Hi. I am having the same problem with NS-HPPA. Would appreciate
if you could post the solution if anybody knows.
The current beta version of Emacs for NS works under NS/HPPA and I'm
told it works under NS/Sparc as well. Testing has entered the final
stage and 4.1 should be publicly released quad-fat before the first
anniversary of the release of 4.0.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, what is wrong?
Message-ID: <D4x5xK.JM@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <3j7jvh$jnc@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 14:08:07 GMT
In article <3j7jvh$jnc@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> darohn@giganext
(Douglas A Rohn) writes:
> > Start newsgrazer again, and then keep track of the article
numbers.
> > When you find the one that causes it to crash (it's easy to
tell),
> > edit your .newsrc to show that you have already read that
article.
>
>
> I've done that, but what a pain! Is there anything else to do?
Sure. Read the article with another newsreader, so that it is marked
read without manipulating .newsrc by hand. I use emacs built in rnews
in this cases.
Michael
--
*** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen
*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-543915
*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
*** Michael_Pieper@AC.maus.de (only < 16kB, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: What about a newsgroup for Nextstep people icons?
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <D4uBIJ.Ixv@marble.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 17:02:07 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Mar4.170207.8306@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <D4uBIJ.Ixv@marble.com> dekorte@simmons.bos.marble.com (Steve
Dekorte) writes:
> Now if only newsgrazer supported images of people like NeXTmail does...
I'd rather NewsGrazer used the same images as Mail.app, but....
From Help in NewsGrazer:
Poster images
You can associate TIFF images with people who post articles. When you
click on an article written by someone in your picture database, their
image will appear in the NewsGrazer window (similar to Mail).
The images should be a maximum size of 64 bits high by 64 bits wide, and
at most 12 bits deep. You must name the TIFF files so that NewsGrazer
knows to associate them with certain posters. Take a poster's From
address (the address that appears in the From line), change ampersands (@)
and exclamation points (!) to periods (.), and append .tiff . Convert
all upper case letters to lower case. For example, if a poster's From
line looked like
From: Joe_Blow@next.com (Joe Blow)
Their TIFF file should be named
joe_blow.next.com.tiff
Next, create a People folder in your NewsGrazer folder. Joe Blow's
People folder would have a path like
/Net/users/jblow/Library/NewsGrazer/People
Place all of your TIFF images into this folder. NewsGrazer also looks for
images in /LocalLibrary/NewsGrazer/People. If both your local People
folder and /LocalLibrary/NewsGrazer/People contain the same files,
NewsGrazer uses the ones in your local folder.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC II
Message-ID: <1995Mar3.131218.19160@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 3 Mar 95 13:12:18 EST
References: <MjHNCuK00YWnA3P0o4@andrew.cmu.edu> <3ilotk$9v@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
In article <3ilotk$9v@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
> In article <MjHNCuK00YWnA3P0o4@andrew.cmu.edu> David Pascua
> <dp3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>> Has anyone out there successfully compiled IRC II for NeXT 3.2 on black?
>> I just tried it using the 'easy install' and I go the following:
>
> IRC 2.2.9 compiled fine for me on black hardware and NS 3.2.
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@raven.stanford.edu
Yes, I have been using 2.2.9 for some time on NS/Intel. But, 2.6-2.8
won't compile properly. A note with the distribution says serious
kludges are required but gives few details. I would appreciate a msg
from anyone who has gotten this working.
Tom Herbert
therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
tom@darwin.cox.miami.edu (NeXTmail)
From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Astraloids--gnarly!
Date: 4 Mar 1995 20:25:11 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3jaib7$frp@news.xmission.com>
I just snarfed Astraloids from orst. This is the best version of
Asteroids I've played since Lunatic Fringe on the Mac. The animations,
the sounds are incredibly cool, and it's just a joy to play.
My check's in the mail!
.....................kris
--
Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I hope you're hungry. They're serving SPINY LOBEFISH in the commons area.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom)
Subject: Re: Q: Converting PS to Tiff, or other raster image--HOW??
Message-ID: <1995Mar1.072434.18379@bacchus.com>
Sender: eric@bacchus.com
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
References: <3j01ka$kbo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 07:24:34 GMT
In article <3j01ka$kbo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C.
Cam) writes:
In article <1995Feb27.163432@alpha.ntu.ac.sg> gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg
(WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG)) writes:
> In article <patrickg.95Feb2222741@feynman>, patrickg@feynman.success.net
writes:
> >
> > I need to convert PosctScript images to a TIFF or other raster format,
so that I can convert them for a particular use. The standard Next print
panel allows me to save things as a device independent PS file.
> > How do I convert this file? Or is there some other way to do it?
>
> A simple (but not that elegant) solution is to Preview the PS-file
> and then use Grab to save the part you want in a .tiff file.
>
> Willem
>
> W i l l e m v a n S c h a
i k
>
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> Gintic - Singapore
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>You can use ImageViewer.app or OmniImage.app to do this. It is available
>at the archives and is freeware (I think).
>..Mike.
The products mentioned above do not allow you to control the resolution/quality
of the PostScript to raster conversions. Without this control you are, in most
cases, limited to the screen resolution when converting.
With our Pixel Magician image conversion application you can rasterize
PostScript files at any size/resolution, e.g., you can use Pixel Magician to
smoothly scale the PostScript data ( up to 10,000 x 10,000 points ) and then
save the image in any of our supported raster formats ( GIF, TIFF, JPEG, Targa,
BMP, PICT, PCX etc etc ) with no loss of image quality.
Eric Bloom
Bacchus, Inc.
info@bacchus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: what's in Academic Bundle ??
References: <3ifu7h$76s@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> <3j2ftj$6ok@news.next.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 16:27:37 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar4.162737.1532@proximus.north.de>
In article <3j2ftj$6ok@news.next.com>,
John Landwehr <jlandwehr@NeXT.COM> wrote:
>New Academic bundles for HP, Sun, Intel, and NeXT computers will have 3.3
>User, 3.3 Developer, and EOF. These products are for educational institutions
>and individual faculty, staff, and students for education and research only.
>They will be shipping the last week of March.
Hmm. Good offer for academic users, finally. (if the price stays stable.)
But please tell me what happens to those academic users (like me) who have
installed two weeks ago (10 days) 3.3 User.
Do we get a good offer for 3.3 Developer and EOF as well? Or are we
"stuffed", that is, did we loose the money for the Upgrade to 3.3 User?
BTW: I live in Germany, so probably NeXT Deutschland has to think about a
"academic friendly" Upgrade to 3.3 Developer.
Coming to think about it: How about a special CeBIT-Offer for students?
:-)))
Gerhard.
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X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
References: <CEDMAN.95Feb26163654@freedom.princeton.edu> <D4nvyu.HA@harka>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 16:33:43 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar4.163343.1637@proximus.north.de>
As we're talking about it: Hitting backspace deletes the actual message.
(This workes for a long time already.)
G.
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X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T
NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Mail sifter for Mail.app?
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950301093833.13030D-100000@oneworld.wa.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 17:32:38 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar4.173238.1837@proximus.north.de>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.950301093833.13030D-100000@oneworld.wa.com>,
Charles W. Cooper II <charles@oneworld.wa.com> wrote:
>
>Does anyone know of a package or method for sorting incoming mail into
>folders in Mail.app? i.e. could procmail be used for this?
Yes. But you also need Carl Edmans mailapp-utilities (latest version is 1.3).
Gerhard.
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From: alex@hal.rhein-main.de (Alexander Lehmann)
Subject: CryptorBundle 1.2: fix to ignore revoked uids
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <D4xD26.GD@hal.rhein-main.de>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 16:42:04 GMT
Hello all,
I've noticed that the CryptorBundle lists all revoked keys in the Encryption
Keys panel, including a lot of *** KEY REVOKED *** lines. This can be
easily fixed by changing the userlist script as below. I simply use awk
to skip uids that are revoked.
#! /bin/sh
PGPPATH=$HOME/.pgp; export PGPPATH
DIR=`echo $0 | sed -e 's:/[^/]*$::'`
${DIR}/pgp +verbose=0 -kv|/bin/awk '
BEGIN { pr = 1 }
/^pub/ { pr = 1 }
/\*\*\* KEY REVOKED \*\*\*$/ { pr = 0 }
pr == 1'
I'll send this suggestion to Thomas, maybe he will work this into the C code.
bye, Alexander
--
Alexander Lehmann
alex@hal.rhein-main.de (plain, MIME, NeXT) | "On the Internet,
lehmann@mathematik.th-darmstadt.de (plain) | nobody knows
http://www.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~alexlehm | you're a dog."
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax with USR Sportster V.34
Date: 4 Mar 1995 23:02:23 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3jarhv$qie@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <D4vqst.48M@fritz.snafu.de>
Ernst Kloecker (ernst@fritz.snafu.de) wrote:
: Hallo,
: I am looking after a customer's site, who has a NXFax license for a
: ZyXEL 1496+ modem. He wants to switch to an USR Sportster V.34
: now.
: Does NXFax 1.04 support this modem ?
: Can my customer switch to the USR Sportster V.34 without
: NXFax configuration changes ?
: I guess the USR Sportster V.34 needs a different fax modem
: driver than the ZyXEL.
NXFax doesn't work with the USR Sportster V.34, and unfortunately,
B+W has no plans to support it. Too bad, since NXFax is superb for
ZyXEL.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Home page: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
From: kamau@BORGcube.com (Kamau Wanguhu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: NXFax problem
Date: 5 Mar 1995 01:12:43 GMT
Organization: Sierra-Net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jb36b$779@jobes.sierra.net>
References: <3j4p3f$lsd@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
Chip Sieglinger writes
=> Dave THOMAS (dave@softpac.com.au) wrote:
=> : Able to send but not receive...
=>
=> : Any suggestions please??
=>
=> Email Black and White rick@bandw.com. Great support.
Unless you have an '030 Cube. It does not seem to work at all for receiving
Faxes. It sends out BEAUTIFUL faxes though! :)
--
================================================================
E. Kamau Wanguhu kamau@BORGcube.com
5270 Neil Road kamau@connectus.com
Reno, NV 89502-2484 (o o) kamau@BORGcube.sac.ca.us
1.702.686.1144 -----ooO-(_)-Ooo----- 1.702.686.1299
================================================================
From: whatley@MCS.COM (Chris Whatley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cubx and the control key with i486
Date: 3 Mar 1995 16:41:37 -0600
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Message-ID: <3j85v1$6so@Mercury.mcs.com>
What can you do to get the control key working properly under CubX.
I am using the NEXTUsa keyboard on an intel machine.
From: rb@pulm1.accessone.com (Rick Bidlack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDROMs ejecting on login
Date: 3 Mar 1995 14:52:05 -0800
Organization: AccessOne
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j86il$jas@pulm1.accessone.com>
Does anyone know anything about configuring CDROM drives
on white (Intel) hardware so that they will not eject
disks on power-off, power-up or login or logout? Do I
need to trick the system into thinking that they are
somehow "fixed" rather than removable? What I've noticed
is that if I power off with a CD in the drive, then power
on again, the drive won't eject until I actually log on.
What causes this?
thanks muchly
===========================================================
Rick Bidlack
703 Bellevue Ave. East / Apt E21 / Seattle, WA 98102 USA
(206) 328-6142 / rb@accessone.com
===========================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: GRIG102@vm1.ulaval.ca (Denis, Andrew, Caroline, Nathalie, Josee)
Subject: ***WANTED : NUDIST(Software)****
Message-ID: <17357C3F3.GRIG102@vm1.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 18:56:03 GMT
*****************************WANTED***NUDIST**************************
It's not a joke. I'm looking for a new software called Nudist. It permits
the assessment of qualitative data. I think it comes from Australia.
If you've heard about it or if you know where I can order it please let me know
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Denis
Please post at GRIG102@vm1.ulaval.ca
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: *** Interested in Acoustics ??? ***
Message-ID: <1995Mar4.232521.35133@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 4 Mar 95 23:25:21 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
4-Fat demos, January 30, 1995
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
For more information please contact
===================================
Digital Recordings - Advanced R & D
5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H-1Y5, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
DFG and DFG_RT software is now available for 4 architectures :
==============================================================
NeXT, Intel, HP and Sun
=======================
4-Fat demo software is available now via ftp or directly from
Digital Recordings via NeXTmail.
DFG - Introduction
==================
DFG_RTdemo.app is a demo module for real-time synthesis of the
sinusoidal (pure tone) signal.Signals are generated in real time
and do not require the DSP processor (which is not available in
some NeXTSTEP computers).This version should work on all Motorola
Intel, Sun and HP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* and
equipped with D/A converters.
This program works very nicely with Digital Oscilloscope and
Spectrum Analyzer (both applications come with NeXT) and any
recording / editing software. Playback and recording/analysis
of the signal could be done simultaneously since DSP chip is not
used and main processor is used only 2-3% during signal production.
DFG_RT is an ideal signal source for research and teaching in the
fields of acoustics, psychoacoustics, electronics, electroacoustics,
physics, mechanics, vibration measurements, architecture, audiology
and transducer testing.
DFG Software Specifications / Parameters
=========================================
o Stereo output (independent R and L channel)
o Frequency adjustable continuously from 0 to 22,000 Hz.
o Frequency stability : +/- 0.0001 Hz at 1000 Hz
o Amplitude adjustable continuously from -140 to 0 dB
o Amplitude stability : +/- 0.00026 dB at 0 dB
o Phase adjustable continuously from 0 to 360 degrees.
o S/N ratio = 95 dB
DFG_RT Modules
===============
Currently there are 8 modules available in DFG_RT software :
DFG_RTsine.app - for generating pure tones (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsquare.app - for generating square wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTtriangular.app - for generating triangular wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsawtooth.app - for generating sawtooth wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTpulse.app - for generating delta-pulse train (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTnoise.app - for generating white noise in 0->22,050 Hz
range.
DFG_RTnoiseNB.app - for generating narrow band noise from
100->200 Hz to 11,000->22,000 range.
DFG_RTnoiseNBv.app - for generating narrow band noise with
bandwidth adjustable from 20 Hz to 2,000 Hz
and center frequency adjustable from 1 Hz
to 22,000 Hz.
DFGdemo.app and DFG_RTdemo.app are available on the following FTP sites
========================================================================
( please look for the files DFGdemo.app.tar.Z and DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z )
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl/pub2/next/submissions
==> Note 1: Also, you can obtain latest software via NeXTmail
*********** directly from: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
==> Note 2: We are looking forward to feedback, specially from
*********** users of NeXTSTEP on Sun and HP platforms on which
DFG software was not tested yet. Thanks in advance
for your help !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hendryj@mcs.com
Subject: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
Message-ID: <1995Mar1.181753.20549@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3j28c3$511@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 18:17:53 GMT
Marc Guenther writes
> dwrite Mail Uuencoder /usr/bin/uuencode
> .... TarCommand
> dwrite Mail CompressCommand /usr/ucb/compress
> .... UncompressCommand
>
> all the utilities Mail uses (TarCommand is probably safetar ?)
> It would be nice, if we could use gzip instead of compress, but
> then nobody else could read our email. At least, everybody should
> use gzip for uncompressing.
>
If I remember correctly, there is a Workspace dwrite which specifies
the compression program to use. However, there was a caveat that that
would mess up nextmail.
It seems that this may allow us to set Workspace's compress.. to use
gzip, while nextmail will continue using compress.
--
Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com
Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of
Vanguard Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or
undead is entirely coincidental.
From: ddp@base.bellcore.com (David Pascua)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where is SLIP_920904?
Date: 1 Mar 1995 19:27:57 GMT
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Message-ID: <3j2hrt$od3@athos.cc.bellcore.com>
References: <3isv4m$7u1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Cc: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Try ftp'ing ftp.uu.net, in directory /vendor/TransSys.
-Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dekorte@marble.com (Steve Dekorte)
Subject: Re: vt100 based news reader for NextStep 3.2
Message-ID: <D4y74E.FB0@marble.com>
Sender: news@marble.com
Organization: Marble Associates, Inc.
References: <3ip9ik$pvt@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 03:31:26 GMT
In article <3ip9ik$pvt@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a vt100 terminal based news reader
which
> will compile under NextStep 3.2? NewsGrazer is great, but I want to
read
> news when I'm away from my NeXT.
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@raven.stanford.edu
try tin. I'd NeXTmail it to you, but I only have an black version on hand
and don't know what your architecture is.
You might find it on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
--
Steve Dekorte
NeXTstep/Objective-C developer
dekorte@marble.com (NeXTmail welcome)
http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dsanders@Trimark.com (Doug Sanders)
Subject: Re: PNI slip and portmapper
Message-ID: <1995Mar2.121944.20771@trimark.com>
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
References: <3ivoa5$lfv@oclc.org>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 12:19:44 GMT
In article <3ivoa5$lfv@oclc.org> levine@oclc.org (Eugene Levine) writes:
>
> Hi
>
> I have PNI (1.13) working on a Gateway 2000 P5-90 runing NSI 3.3.
> However, I have to reboot everytime I bring up pnid a second time. The
> first time pnid starts and works just fine. The second time it gives
> the portmapper error
[ error messages munched...]
> I've tried restarting portmap, inetd, nibindd; but no luck in getting
> PNI working again without a reboot. Any help or suggestions at all would
> be appreciated.
>
> thanks for your time,
> -gene
> --
> / E. T. (Gene) Levine OCLC Inc. \
> | Systems Analyst 6565 Frantz Road |
> | levine@oclc.org Dublin, OH 43017 |
> \ NeXT mail welcome! (614) 761-5045 /
ditto here! It may (or may not) be helpful to note that I'm running
standalone NSI 3.3 with the Mux 1.6 driver.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
dsanders@Trimark.com Trimark Investment Management Inc.
dsanders@hookup.net One First Canadian Place, Ste 5600
NeXTmail, MIME mail OK Toronto, ON M5X 1E5 CANADA
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: SLIP and PopOver
Message-ID: <D4y52F.2D2@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 02:47:03 GMT
I am successfully running SLIP using TransSys, and have one hurdle of ignorance to
clear before I can fully enjoy Mail. PopOver can
clear my remote mail once the transfer is complete, but my
destination file(/usr/spool/mail/me, which was created the very first
time I tried to do a transfer) remains empty no matter what I do.
Whenever I initiate mail retrieval, send/read activity takes place in
a fashion I am not used to seeing(a likely signature of IP packets I
imagine). I found that I had to use "204.122.16.4" instead of
"mail.eskimo.com"; I suspect that I need to define a name table
locally, or refer to a name server.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: khiebert@vanbc.wimsey.com (Kevin Hiebert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Graphical IRC client for NS3.2?
Date: 4 Mar 1995 23:22:57 -0800
Organization: Wimsey Information Services
Message-ID: <khiebert.794387981@vanbc>
Summary: Looking for graphical IRC client for Nextstep
Keywords: Graphical IRC client
I've seen postings to this group about IRC II (2.2.9) but I can't find it
using archie or by grazing the German or USA ftp sites. I also can't
find CryptorBundle-1.2. Could someone e-mail a quick note to me telling me
where these are? Thanks,
--
Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com> http://www.wimsey.com/~khiebert/
* NeXTmail welcome * PGP public key available for secure messaging *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: sounds from windows on NeXT
Message-ID: <D4xzzM.nJ@blackmaus.com>
Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc.
References: <3ii7ml$a1e@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 00:57:21 GMT
In article <3ii7ml$a1e@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christian
Musinszki) writes:
>
> Hello,
>
> i am sitting at a NeXT-computer and try to play a .wav soundfile from
> MS-windows, but itdoes not work with any of my soundTools.
> Is there any tool that does this ? (Perhaps a converter .wav 2 .snd)
Why don't you try using GISO.app to convert the wav file to a snd file?
FYI, GISO is a NEXTSTEP front end to sox, a sound format convertor. You can get GISO from
ftp.cs.orst.
Have fun.
---
Dino Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
dino@blackmaus.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
From: shunfemd@curly (Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: vt100 based news reader for NextStep 3.2
Date: 5 Mar 1995 12:59:02 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <3jccim$bfk@viper.is.rest.tasc.com>
References: <3ip9ik$pvt@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <PFKEB.95Mar3210832@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
> Does anyone know where I can get a vt100 terminal based news reader
> which will compile under NextStep 3.2? NewsGrazer is great, but I
> want to read news when I'm away from my NeXT.
I am reading news now at home in VT100 emulation using tin. Since I am not
the system administrator I don't know where we got it, but it reads
'tin 1.2 PL0' when I enter 'tin -r' at the unix command line.
--
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shunfemd@rest.tasc.com | Reston, VA 22090
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From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: root's defaults database woes
Message-ID: <D4y19n.17L@blackmaus.com>
Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc.
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 01:24:59 GMT
Folks,
I'm in need of some HELP ASAP!
By mistake, I deleted root's NeXTdefaults.D and NeXTdefaults.L files. Now all of root's
defaults are gone. But the worse part of it is that for some reason, root is not able to
write/save its own defaults anymore! So even if I try to save new defaults, it won't
preserve them next time I log in!
This is what I get when I try to read the defaults database:
# dread -l
dread: Can't open defaults database
I checked root's file permissions on both the directory and the files themselves and they
seem OK.
Here's the output:
#ls -l /.NeXT
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 20 Mar 3 17:34 .NeXTdefaults.D
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 8192 Mar 3 17:37 .NeXTdefaults.L
I've tried copying my own defaults into root's account; no go.
I've tried erasing the entire /.NeXT directory (where root's defaults files reside); no
go.
Any other suggestions? PLEASE, I'm open to any suugestions!
Thank you very much.
---
Dino Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
dino@blackmaus.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 95 12:15:57 -0800
From: Peter Langston <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Message-ID: <9503032015.AA01227@pud>
Subject: Looking for Tailor UUCP
A number of people have suggested that some uucp problems might go away if
I switched to Taylor UUCP from the (ancient, pre-HoneyDanBer) uucp that NeXT
ships. I remember seeing a NeXT version of Taylor UUCP on orst, specifically:
/software/NeXT/binaries/comm/NeGeN-Taylor-UUCP-1.05.NI.b.Distribution.tar.gz
But that doesn't seem to be there anymore. So:
1) Are other people using Taylor UUCP on NeXT and if so, has it been
an improvement?
2) Where can I find a copy of Taylor UUCP set up for NeXT?
Thanks,
Peter
---------- Peter Langston -- psl@acm.org -- Seattle, WA ----------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar)
Subject: [EMacs 4.0 on sparc 3.3]?
Message-ID: <D4vwKB.GFF@lehman.com>
Sender: news@lehman.com (News)
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
References: <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 21:48:10 GMT
I am having a segmentation fault at the line;
./temacs -batch -l loadup dump
Has anyone compiled it successfully?
I would appreciate any hint,
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From: matt@WalkingDog.com (Matt Brandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing Word for Windows generated postscript
Date: 5 Mar 1995 15:54:31 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3jcmrn$jl1@metro.atlanta.com>
I get some postscript documents in EPS form generated by Microsoft Word for
Windows and they always seem to print all of the pages on top of each other. I
can send them to an HP Laserjet with a postscript option OK but in either the
NeXT previewer or the NeXT printer everything is printed on the same page.
Has anyone else experienced this? Anyone got a clue how to fix this?
Matt
From: Rudi Stouffs <rstouffs+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where Alexandra is
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 11:28:27 -0500
Organization: Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8jKSOf_00YUv855owi@andrew.cmu.edu>
References: <3j61tr$1k9@network.ucsd.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3j61tr$1k9@network.ucsd.edu>
Thanks for the directions towards Alexandra.
I have tried to compile it but realize that I need MiscKit.
Is this generally available? and if so, where?
Also, if I need NNTP, where can I find this?
Thanks,
-Rudi
\_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_
Rudi Stouffs
Department of Architecture
Carnegie Mellon University [rstouffs+@cmu.edu]
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
From: aoki@physics.ucla.edu (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [EMacs 4.0 on sparc 3.3]?
Date: 04 Mar 1995 01:43:39 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
Message-ID: <AOKI.95Mar3174341@gauss.physics.ucla.edu>
References: <3j08mi$rhj@network.ucsd.edu> <D4vwKB.GFF@lehman.com>
In-reply-to: jsafar@lehman.com's message of Fri, 3 Mar 1995 21:48:10 GMT
In article <D4vwKB.GFF@lehman.com> jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar) writes:
I am having a segmentation fault at the line;
./temacs -batch -l loadup dump
Has anyone compiled it successfully?
I would appreciate any hint,
Hi. I am having the same problem with NS-HPPA. Would appreciate
if you could post the solution if anybody knows.
--
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.... on the road oDo .......
From: bergv@huygens.math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Omniweb:Too many users are already using OmniWeb.
Date: 5 Mar 1995 20:24:05 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3jd6l5$g0p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
For some reason Omniweb version 1.0 prerelease2 seems to think that
Too many users are already using OmniWeb.,
although on my Nextstation I am the only user. I tried rebooting but that
didn't help. What can I do?
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Mathematics Department
University of Illinois
Urbana-Champaign, IL 61801
tel: 217-333-6326 email: bergv@math.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: News Reader for the NeXT (Black Box)
References: <3it6f6$ml9@oak.oakland.edu> <3j0r2i$cnl@network.ucsd.edu> <3j2oao$625@oclc.org>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 09:44:02 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar5.094402.863@proximus.north.de>
In article <3j2oao$625@oclc.org>, Robin Hermance-Moore <rhm@oclc.org> wrote:
>Harmon Craig (passim@helium.ucsd.edu) wrote:
>
>: I had the same experience with Grazer and have switched to using the
>: Alexandra news reader. It works perfectly and is a delight to use
>: after the bad experiences with the Grazer.
[...]
>Sounds great! Where can I get a copy to look at?
>I poked all over ftp.cs.orst.edu, but didn't see it!
>Thanks, Robin
[...]
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/Alexandra.0.7.s.tar.gz
Note, however, that this release only works with nntp and not flat files.
Gerhard.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: NXFax with USR Sportster V.34
Message-ID: <D4zJwH.8Mq@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us
References: <D4vqst.48M@fritz.snafu.de> <3jarhv$qie@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 21:05:05 GMT
rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
>Ernst Kloecker (ernst@fritz.snafu.de) wrote:
>: I am looking after a customer's site, who has a NXFax license for a
>: ZyXEL 1496+ modem. He wants to switch to an USR Sportster V.34
>: now.
>:
>: Does NXFax 1.04 support this modem ?
>NXFax doesn't work with the USR Sportster V.34, and unfortunately,
>B+W has no plans to support it. Too bad, since NXFax is superb for ZyXEL.
B&W has plans ot support it, but they have not yet shipped out the BETA
version of NXFax with Class 2.0 FAX Modem support for anyone to evaluate. They
promised four months ago, that they would probably have a Beta ready within
6 months (Vapourware alert ;-).
Until that time, one can use the slightly less reliable mgetty+sendfax V0.22
software (more patches and scripts were posted on Friday by me on this) which
works well for Class 2.0 FAX modems such as the USR V.34 Sportster and Couriers.
Class 2.0 is also available for the V.32bis USR modems, call them for an
upgrade.
Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Regression Test Tools
Message-ID: <1995Mar5.190346.2008@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <1995Mar1.002955.2267@media.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 19:03:46 GMT
In article <1995Mar1.002955.2267@media.com> judy@media.com (Judy Morgan)
writes:
> Does anyone know of a regression test tool for NEXTSTEP? We need
> to test user interface functionality (like X-Runner does for
> X-Windows apps).
>
This question was posed to Peter Lipps (NeXT Germany) on NEXTSTEP day at
OOP'95 in Munich just a few weeks ago. He said NeXT knows about this
shortcoming. They have something in their own lab that is available to a
handful of selected consultants. The restriction was explained with the
non_product_readiness of the tool and the nonavailability of any tech
support for this software. He said there might be a product some day, but
there is no schedule for such a release. Until then we all will need to
manually compare the two (or more) versions under test (or hire one of
those trusted consultants ;-).
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From: ron deangelis <71031.1332@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Web explorers
Date: 5 Mar 1995 23:52:03 GMT
Organization: via CompuServe Information Service
Message-ID: <3jdir3$87l$3@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
Are there any Web explorers for NextStep - Intel, with NextStep GUI?
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Date: 5 Mar 1995 23:06:28 GMT
Organization: Nil
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jdg5k$ds1@sparc.eunet.si>
References: <3ir06e$11j@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
> kevins@bmd.com writes:
>
>
> >any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc. I'm having a
hell of a
> >time getting this to work and tech support at Insignia is not too
helpful
>
> >help me
>
I have no problem with this whatsoever. When I boot NS, the dos partition
shows up at the root directory as /dos_data (because I labeled the dod
disk as "dos_data"). In SoftPC's preferences I just declared FSA drive as
/dos_data nad I can see the disk in SoftPC as drive E:. Of course, if you
want your dos partition to be your boot disk C: in SoftPC, that's another
story...
Jonas.
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Date: 5 Mar 1995 23:06:41 GMT
Organization: Nil
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jdg61$ds2@sparc.eunet.si>
References: <3ir06e$11j@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
> kevins@bmd.com writes:
>
>
> >any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc. I'm having a
hell of a
> >time getting this to work and tech support at Insignia is not too
helpful
>
> >help me
>
I have no problem with this whatsoever. When I boot NS, the dos partition
shows up at the root directory as /dos_data (because I labeled the dod
disk as "dos_data"). In SoftPC's preferences I just declared FSA drive as
/dos_data nad I can see the disk in SoftPC as drive E:. Of course, if you
want your dos partition to be your boot disk C: in SoftPC, that's another
story...
Jonas.
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Date: 5 Mar 1995 23:07:11 GMT
Organization: Nil
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jdg6v$dsb@sparc.eunet.si>
References: <3ir06e$11j@bud.kau2.kodak.com>
> kevins@bmd.com writes:
>
>
> >any one know how to access a dos partition from softpc. I'm having a
hell of a
> >time getting this to work and tech support at Insignia is not too
helpful
>
> >help me
>
I have no problem with this whatsoever. When I boot NS, the dos partition
shows up at the root directory as /dos_data (because I labeled the dod
disk as "dos_data"). In SoftPC's preferences I just declared FSA drive as
/dos_data nad I can see the disk in SoftPC as drive E:. Of course, if you
want your dos partition to be your boot disk C: in SoftPC, that's another
story...
Jonas.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bellr@cuug.ab.ca (Robert Bell 282-0911)
Subject: Oracle SQL*Net on SoftPC
Message-ID: <D4zJJ7.5Fo@cuug.ab.ca>
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 20:50:22 GMT
Does anyone know if getting Oracle SQL*Net running on SoftPc is possible?
--
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Database Consultant Internet: bellr@cuug.ab.ca
Compuserve: 73672,3625
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Doom and commercial .wad file
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 21:46:29 GMT
Message-ID: <D4zLtI.D7M@ritz.mordor.com>
I tried loading in the .wad file from my PC version of Doom today, onto
my NextStation, and I got this message:
"W_GetNumForName: STBAR not found!"
The loadup gets to "ST_Init: Init status bar.", so I presume that it
can't find the status bar... whatever that is. The shareware version
works fine, but the commercial version gives that message. Any ideas?
Thanks
Matt
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew)
Subject: Big software companies coming back to NeXT?
Message-ID: <edewD4zyJD.Mzs@netcom.com>
Sender: edew@netcom11.netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 02:21:12 GMT
I'm just wondering, now that NeXT is getting to be a bit more stable,
will some of the major software developers come back to support NeXT with
some NeXT software? Specifically, I'm thinking of Lotus with somthing
for Improv (like an eddress for tech_support, at least), Adobe for another
Illustrator, any others? Personally, I would just be happy if someone
from AppSoft would give me back the $99 they took from me for their
never commercialized spreadsheet app.
(I really can't ask for too many other software developers since I feel I
have all the necessary apps that I ever want... :-))
EDEW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle v1.1 & NS3.3
In-Reply-To: Michael Pizolato's message of 1 Mar 1995 19:38:34 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Mar6003758@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3j24it$5dn@xexos.xexos.com> <3j2ifq$fts@shelob.afs.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 05:37:58 GMT
Is there source available for CryptorBundle?
Robert
From: sldq1@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing Word for Windows generated postscript
Message-ID: <1995Mar5.152546.43699@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 5 Mar 95 15:25:46 MDT
References: <3jcmrn$jl1@metro.atlanta.com>
Organization: Utah State University
In article <3jcmrn$jl1@metro.atlanta.com>, matt@WalkingDog.com (Matt Brandt) writes:
> I get some postscript documents in EPS form generated by Microsoft Word for
> Windows and they always seem to print all of the pages on top of each other. I
> can send them to an HP Laserjet with a postscript option OK but in either the
> NeXT previewer or the NeXT printer everything is printed on the same page.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? Anyone got a clue how to fix this?
Well, word is pretty damn stupid when it comes to EPS files. Think of an EPS
file as a piece of clipart. Does clipart have multiple pages? Nope. But Word
still lets you make them. What you need to do is set up a PostScript printer
attacted to FILE: and generate a PostScript file that way.
Now, if you want to "fix" your EPS file...well...you can hack the PostScript
code :-) or I seem to remember that Tailor 2.0 fixes those files. Your best
alternative is to recreate those files as described above.
John Zollinger
ProActive Consulting, Inc.
sldq1@cc.usu.edu
From: jef@worm.hooked.net (Jonathan Flamm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help! Where is PPP and/or SLIP for NextStep Intel
Date: 5 Mar 1995 23:22:22 -0800
Organization: HOOKeD
Message-ID: <3jed7e$dnt@worm.hooked.net>
I am a new NextStep user and have found ftp.cs.orst.edu to be a great
source for Next
software including various Internet tools and browsers. I have yet to find
PPP or SLIP for Intel. Can someone please help?
Thanks!!!
Jonathan Flamm
jef@hooked.net
From: garton@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (Bradford Garton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.lisp
Subject: GCL (AKCL) for NextStep, intel hardware?
Date: 6 Mar 1995 02:25:08 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <3jdrq4$rgh@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Does it exist? Any lisp that compiles on NS/FIP?
Sorry if this has been answered before -- I checked a bunch of FAQs and some
www sites, found no Handy Pointers.
Brad Garton
music dept.
garton@columbia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: Re: News Reader for the NeXT (Black Box)
Message-ID: <D4z8K0.28G@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
References: <3it6f6$ml9@oak.oakland.edu> <3j0r2i$cnl@network.ucsd.edu> <3j2oao$625@oclc.org>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 16:59:59 GMT
rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore) wrote:
>Harmon Craig (passim@helium.ucsd.edu) wrote:
>: I had the same experience with Grazer and have switched to using
the
>: Alexandra news reader. It works perfectly and is a delight to use
>: after the bad experiences with the Grazer.
>Sounds great! Where can I get a copy to look at?
>I poked all over ftp.cs.orst.edu, but didn't see it!
>Thanks, Robin
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps
(I think)
Greetings
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 6 Mar 1995 05:15:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3je5os$ds7@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
*** NEED INFORMATION ***
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
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Message/Partial specification
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
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SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
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To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
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identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
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To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
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call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: vt100 based news reader for NextStep 3.2
Date: 6 Mar 1995 12:15:32 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <3jeqsk$78c@byleist.ifi.uio.no>
References: <3ip9ik$pvt@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <PFKEB.95Mar3210832@kaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
<3jccim$bfk@viper.is.rest.tasc.com>
In-reply-to: shunfemd@curly's message of 5 Mar 1995 12:59:02 GMT
In article <3jccim$bfk@viper.is.rest.tasc.com> shunfemd@curly (Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike)) writes:
>I am reading news now at home in VT100 emulation using tin. Since I am not
>the system administrator I don't know where we got it, but it reads
>'tin 1.2 PL0' when I enter 'tin -r' at the unix command line.
You could also use gnus in emacs.
Arne
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From: hkt@ccrma.stanford.edu (Rick Taube)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: GCL (AKCL) for NextStep, intel hardware?
Date: 6 Mar 1995 11:48:50 GMT
Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University
Message-ID: <3jesr2$qlk@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3jdrq4$rgh@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
The file:
ftp.zkm.de:/pub/gcl-NeXT386.tar.gz
has mods to get GCL 1.1 working on NeXTStep/Intel. An enclosed readme
explains how to do it.
Rick Taube
hkt@zkm.de
Zentrum fuer Kunst u. Medientechnologie
Karlsruhe, Germany
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 6 Mar 1995 04:13:19 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3je24v$sj8@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995Feb28.225020.8706@il.us.swissbank.com>
howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard) writes:
> As I posted last Friday, this has been addressed in Opener 3.2a
> which should appear on the archive sites later today.
I have not seen an official announcement of the new Opener,
but it is indeed available on ftp.cs.orst.edu. It wouldn't
surprise me if that's just because of problems at our local
usenet hub, which has been a bit overwhelmed lately.
I've also split it up and made the result available on
eclipse.its.rpi.edu. The files are:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/Opener_f/Opener-3.2a-H.tar.gz
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/Opener_f/Opener-3.2a-I.tar.gz
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/Opener_f/Opener-3.2a-N.tar.gz
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/Opener_f/Opener-3.2a-S.tar.gz
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/Opener_f/Opener-3.2a_NIHS.tar.gz
In some respects, for people who really *do* use a WWW client
to pick up files, a more generally convenient URL might be
just:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/Opener_f/
as that gives you a list of the files in that directory. You
can then just click on the file that interests you.
The sizes this time around are:
812764 Mar 5 03:07 Opener-3.2a-H.tar.gz
744325 Mar 5 03:07 Opener-3.2a-I.tar.gz
732022 Mar 5 03:07 Opener-3.2a-N.tar.gz
783313 Mar 5 03:08 Opener-3.2a-S.tar.gz
1626579 Mar 5 03:07 Opener-3.2a_NIHS.tar.gz
Note that the original distribution (that all the above are based
on) was done as a tar.Z file. So if you're not comfortable with
tar.gz files then you can get the original distribution at other
archive sites.
While this issue of MAB binaries comes up for many programs, I
have only split up a few programs to made them available on
eclipse. This is more of an experiment on how to make files
available. I'm not sure if it'd be practical at a huge scale,
such as a site that's holding a full selection of NeXTSTEP
applications. Opener is a convenient test case, as that's
quad-FAT right now, and it's an application I would be getting
anyway.
--
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax with USR Sportster V.34
Date: 6 Mar 1995 17:25:47 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3jfgir$qts@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <D4vqst.48M@fritz.snafu.de> <3jarhv$qie@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <D4zJwH.8Mq@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Mark Gregory Salyzyn (mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca) wrote:
: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
: >Ernst Kloecker (ernst@fritz.snafu.de) wrote:
: >: I am looking after a customer's site, who has a NXFax license for a
: >: ZyXEL 1496+ modem. He wants to switch to an USR Sportster V.34
: >: now.
: >:
: >: Does NXFax 1.04 support this modem ?
: >NXFax doesn't work with the USR Sportster V.34, and unfortunately,
: >B+W has no plans to support it. Too bad, since NXFax is superb for ZyXEL.
: B&W has plans ot support it, but they have not yet shipped out the BETA
: version of NXFax with Class 2.0 FAX Modem support for anyone to evaluate. They
: promised four months ago, that they would probably have a Beta ready within
: 6 months (Vapourware alert ;-).
I talked to them two weeks ago and they said they had no plans of supporting
USR modems. I hope they do, though.
: Until that time, one can use the slightly less reliable mgetty+sendfax V0.22
: software (more patches and scripts were posted on Friday by me on this) which
: works well for Class 2.0 FAX modems such as the USR V.34 Sportster and Couriers.
Maybe you could put a package together (please)? It would be ideal if
I didn't have to install GhostScript, which seems very redundant. Thanks!
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Home page: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Where Alexandra is
References: <3j61tr$1k9@network.ucsd.edu> <8jKSOf_00YUv855owi@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 10:38:38 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar6.103838.7820@proximus.north.de>
In article <8jKSOf_00YUv855owi@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Rudi Stouffs <rstouffs+@CMU.EDU> wrote:
>Thanks for the directions towards Alexandra.
>
>I have tried to compile it but realize that I need MiscKit.
>Is this generally available? and if so, where?
>Also, if I need NNTP, where can I find this?
Misckit can be found at the same archives, e.g.
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/objc/misckit/*
(I don't know what the latest realease is...)
For a lot of documentation look at
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Documents/developer/misckit/*
nntp can be found at:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/nntp.1.5.11.s.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Documents/internet/nntp.1.5.gz
You might want to try out
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/NeGen-CNews.1.0.NI.b.tar.gz
It includes nntp as well.
BTW: You really sould get the file
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/00INFO/INDEX
and do a grep on it if you are looking for something. Saves a lot of time.
The same ist true for opther archives,
Gerhard.
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From: lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette A. Williams)
Subject: Re: Trouble Compiling Cern-httpd
Message-ID: <1995Mar3.210316.9737@leo.vsla.edu>
Organization: Virginia State Library
References: <D4t1LI.17A@nyro.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 21:03:16 GMT
I had something similar happen to me, but I get beyond that a
little further.
Here's what I get:
-----------------------------------------
WWW build for machine type: next-386
------ Building libwww ------
Object files of libwww will go to directory Library/next-386
- creating
echo Include files generated from hypertext.
Include files generated from hypertext.
if [ ! -r ../.. ] ; then mkdir ../..; else echo OK ; fi
OK
if [ ! -r ../../Library ] ; then mkdir ../../Library; else echo
OK ; fi
OK
if [ ! -r ../../Library/next-386 ] ; then mkdir
../../Library/next-386; else echo OK ; fi
OK
touch ../../Library/next-386/.created
cc -c -o ../../Library/next-386/HTParse.o -Wall -g
-DXMOSAIC_HACK -arch m68k -arch i386
-I../../Library/Implementation/
../../Library/Implementation/HTParse.c
Make: Cannot load cc. Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
WWW build for next-386 done. status = 1
*** Exit 1
Stop.
______________________________________________
Ok, I figured out that "cc" is the GNU C compiler (hurrah for
MAN pages!). But where is it, where do I get it, do I already
have it? :)
Anybody got some ideas for me? :) I'd love to hear them! :)
I'd like to get my Web page going...my supervisor would, too!
Lucette
lawillia@leo.vsla.edu
Richmond, VA
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fiend - "Submit to" via shell
Date: 6 Mar 1995 12:07:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503061734.AA21831@alleg.EDU>
This may not matter to anyone else, or surprise anyone else, but I
was pleasantly surprised to see this work:
1) Type in a path to an app, folder, etc.
2) Highlight with mouse
3) select Services/Fiend/Submit to Fiend Dock
it works!
Easier (to me) than going to it in the Workspace Manager, since I
would have had to launch it, and then get the right app, and then do
the service.
I assume it would work the same way for the Fiend Shelf, but I don't
use it, so I can't say.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fiend - "Submit to" via shell
Date: 6 Mar 1995 16:56:17 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3jg0e1$2sd@panix.com>
References: <9503061734.AA21831@alleg.EDU>
In <9503061734.AA21831@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) writes:
>This may not matter to anyone else, or surprise anyone else, but I
>was pleasantly surprised to see this work:
>1) Type in a path to an app, folder, etc.
>2) Highlight with mouse
>3) select Services/Fiend/Submit to Fiend Dock
I'm surprised that you found it, since it's not documented,
but Fiend does in fact accept text selections for pasting.
Don't get too attached to this "feature" though, as it's
probably going away - it leads to strange behaviors when the
paths are not well formed.
>I assume it would work the same way for the Fiend Shelf, but I don't
>use it, so I can't say.
Yes, it does.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: NXFax problem
Date: 06 Mar 1995 22:38:29 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Mar6223829@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
References: <D4pJF9.I5@softpac.com.au>
To: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
In-reply-to: Dave THOMAS's message of Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:18:44 GMT
<dave@softpac.com.au> writes:
>Able to send but not receive...
>Any suggestions please??
>Rgds
>dave t
>DownUnder
Is it licensed? Have you contacted rick@bandw.com?
What does /usr/adm/nxfax/* say?
What Modem? What computer?
--
"Mary had a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka)
Subject: Astraloids (game) released on ftp.cs.orst.edu
Message-ID: <1995Mar6.220014.29981@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: game
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 22:00:14 GMT
Astraloids.app is now available on:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/Astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
Astraloids is an Asteroids type arcade game with a few additions
to the original. The graphics for the game are fully rendered.
Unique (at least for Asteroids clones under NeXTSTEP) is the addition
of animated asteroids. The total installed size is ~4.5MB. It may
just be the definitive mission critical application for NeXTSTEP.
Asteroids is being distributed as a shareware game for $15. More
information is included in the on-line help.
Enjoy. Please include "Astraloids" in the subject line of any mail
you e-send me!
Thank you,
Mike Stepniczka
step@il.us.swissbank.com
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP
Date: 6 Mar 1995 16:10:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503062210.AA09961@alleg.EDU>
I have been unable to find GatorFTP; can anyone point
me to an ftp site that might carry it?
I think this is the newest version:
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/GatorFTP.1.8
.1.NIH.b.tar.gz
I think these are older versions:
ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/
/software/NeXT/binaries/comm/GatorFTP+.tar.Z
/software/NeXT/binaries/comm/GatorFTP.app.tar.Z
/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/GatorFTP.README.rtf
/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/GatorFTP.app.compressed
/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/GatorFTP.app.compressed.README
/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/GatorFTP_1.4.README.rtf
/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/GatorFTP_MAB_1.6.1.app.tar.gz
/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/GatorFTP_NS3.0_1.4.app.tar.Z
/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/GatorFTP_NS486_1.4.app.tar.Z
TjL
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help! Where is PPP and/or SLIP for NextStep Intel
Date: 6 Mar 1995 20:34:18 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3jfrka$562@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <3jed7e$dnt@worm.hooked.net>
jef@worm.hooked.net (Jonathan Flamm) wrote:
>
>I am a new NextStep user and have found ftp.cs.orst.edu to be a great
>source for Next
>software including various Internet tools and browsers. I have yet
to find
>PPP or SLIP for Intel. Can someone please help?
>
>Thanks!!!
>Jonathan Flamm
>jef@hooked.net
ppp2.2 is available at:
ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/
Its good stuff!
far@earthlink.net
From: sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PNI SLIP to CISCO
Date: 6 Mar 1995 20:38:22 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jgdee$aul@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Still trying to get PNI SLIP to work. Can someone give some guidance for the
following situation. I dial into a CISCO router with dynamic IP addressing.
At the > I respond with login,
at Username: respond with username,
at Password: I respond with password,
at > term download,
at > term flowcontrol hardware,
at > term SLIP mtu 1500,
at > SLIP default,
server responds with Entering SLIP mode. Your IP address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.
MTU is 1500 bytes.
Script says Connected. Your IP address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.
Server says Header compression will match your system.
How do I put that in the PNI tcl scripts? I have tried about 10 different
scripts with no success. I have tried using the login-cisco and the login-unix scripts with the dynamic rexpect moved to the unix script. I get the
connection and then nothing.
If someone from NeXT is reading, look at Trumpet WINSOCK and do the same for
NS. OS/2 has it. I can use DIP with LINUX and several different SLIP programs with MS Windows. This should be in the NS distribution.
Thanks for any response.
SC Perkins
sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does an equivalent of Lotus Improv exist?
Date: 6 Mar 1995 22:11:30 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3jg1ai$6nq@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <D4vwEv.5oE@RnA.NL>
In article <D4vwEv.5oE@RnA.NL> gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
> Man do I love Lotus. I had to use it again this week and I realy like
the way
> it does the categories, the flip-flopping of orders, axes, etc.
>
> Lotus did ship it for Windows but they apparently dropped it again.
>
> So, my question: does an equivalent spreadsheet exist for NEXTSTEP? If I
> furnish an office with NS/FIP is there a "Lotus Improv" to be used?
>
> Thanks,
Quantrix from Lighthouse Design is as close as you'll get.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !
Date: 6 Mar 1995 16:23:41 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503062223.AA10456@alleg.EDU>
dwrite Mail ReadReceiptOption Ask (or "Always" or
"Never")
Pops up a confirmationpanel, whenever you read a
message. (or just sends the receipt, or doesn't)
This is much faster than 'receiptfilter' but does not have the
ability to 'remember' to whom receipts should always/never go to. I'm
torn.
In addition to Active, Outgoing and Drafts, there is
a Templates.mbox (whatever it is)
dwrite Mail TemplatesMailbox Templates.mbox
anyone figure out how to use a 'templates.mbox'?
I just noticed, that Shift-Tab inside the Compose Text
moves the cursor back to the Cc: Field !!
Finally! This is a great feature for those of us who like to resist
using the mouse ;-)
TjL
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Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fortran compiler
Date: 6 Mar 1995 22:24:16 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3jg22g$7d3@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3ivj00$d44@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
In article <3ivj00$d44@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> rhaas@coos.dartmouth.edu
(Richard M. Haas) writes:
>
> Hi there -
> I don't know if this exists in the FAQ or not, but I need
specifics
> anyway. Does anyone know of a good cheap fortran compiler for the
> NeXT?
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated,
> Rich
Although not necessarily "cheap," Absoft's Object-Oriented FORTRAN 77
($750 educational) is "good."
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
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(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tektronics Emulator for NeXT?
Date: 5 Mar 1995 22:52:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3jdfas$ckc@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Does sucha a thing exist to exprot graphics from a remote machine--there
is no way to get a graphics window opened. What's the deal?
pcm
From: mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Luis Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, what is wrong?
Date: 7 Mar 1995 16:46:25 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3ji2l1$1p9@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <D4x5xK.JM@nexus1.oche.de>
In article <D4x5xK.JM@nexus1.oche.de> michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
writes:
> In article <3j7jvh$jnc@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> darohn@giganext
> (Douglas A Rohn) writes:
> > > Start newsgrazer again, and then keep track of the article
> numbers.
> > > When you find the one that causes it to crash (it's easy to
> tell),
> > > edit your .newsrc to show that you have already read that
> article.
> >
> >
> > I've done that, but what a pain! Is there anything else to do?
>
> Sure. Read the article with another newsreader, so that it is marked
> read without manipulating .newsrc by hand. I use emacs built in rnews
> in this cases.
I am using NewsGrazer, but when it crahses I use Alexandra in order to read and
the group/article where the problem is. I have a symbolic link between .newsrc
and .news.newsrc as follows
lrwxrwxrwx 1 mandel 7 Mar 2 17:22 .news.newsrc -> .newsrc@
and it works fine!
I would like to have in Alexandra some nice features of NewsGrazer such as
the browser view, etc.
Luis
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(. .)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lmt@maestro.maestro.com (Leading Market Technologies)
Subject: rld() and dynamic C object file binding
Message-ID: <D5317w.D8B@maestro.maestro.com>
Keywords: rld, rld_load, objc_loadModule
Sender: shanega@athena.mit.edu
Organization: Maestro Technologies, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 18:11:55 GMT
I am looking for code examples on binding linked object files to running
processes under NEXTSTEP. I need to bind ordinary 'C' code, not
objective-C or C++ and I need to do this in a way that I end up able to
execute routines in the loaded object file as if they were local to the
already running process.
I have read the manual page for rld(3) but I find it rather obscure. Is
there anyone who can send me code fragments that load in an object file
and execute a routine therein? Also, information on link parameters to
build the shared object file would be particularly useful.
Thank-you,
Shane
From: tagoldth@camtwh.eric.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT mmap() summary
Date: 3 Mar 1995 19:52:07 GMT
Organization: The Eye Research Institute of Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j7s17$a9q@sator.eric.on.ca>
Summary: it does work, but not as a normal mmap
Keywords: tied to NeXT Mach vm_ functions
Hi All,
After receiving *many* requests asking if I got the answer of how NeXT
implemented mmap(), I am posting a simple summary (please don't ask for
more details, I need my sleep :-) ).
mmap() on the NeXT Mach OS works, but the semantics of allocation are changed,
here are the details:
- Under normal OS (whatever that is :-) )
- mmap first argument can specify
- pointer value 0 (which means os finds suitable location for the map)
- pointer value as suggestion on where to do the map
- mmap will do the actual page allocations for you.
- Under NeXT OS
- first argument is pointer to region user has allocated using vm_allocate().
Here's a simple example:
#include or import whats appropriate, such as mman.h etc
...
vm_allocate((vm_task_t)task_self(),
(vm_address_t*)&addr, 8192,TRUE);
mmap((caddr_t)addr,(size_t)256,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_SHARED,fd,(off_t)0);
....
- In the above, addr is a character pointer and fd the open file descriptor of
what I want to mmap().
- I have tested it for sharing pages among processes (as I use it on other
os'es) and it appears to work properly, see Big_Disclaimer below.
- You can create wrapper functions, #ifdefs, etc, to merge the NeXT OS
style mmap() code with code for other machines.
- I didn't see a munmap() in the symbols of the libraries, so I just used
vm_deallocate(). I assume here that the mmap goes away automagically when
I deallocate the region. See Big_Disclaimer below....
Disclaimer: The above is written late at night, just to test it, and is
not written to handle every case. Please look at the NeXT vm_* routine
descriptions in the Librarian, and in the man pages on a SunOS machine (or
other suitable machine with mmap implemented) for a description of how
mmap() normally should work).
Big_Disclaimer: NeXT supplies no man page for mmap(), so even though it
works above, this could suggest that it is unsupported, and the semantics of
what it does may be a variation, or have exceptions, to what I am describing.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.
At some point I may exhaustively test it to be sure it all works right,
if I find something odd, I'll post it. If we are lucky, 3.3 Dev may
have it in the docs...
My thanks to an anonymous person who suggested that the user must allocate
the region of memory to map into. IT WORKED! :-)
From: troyw@teal.csn.org (Troy Weingart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Top 10 NS Downloads
Date: 3 Mar 1995 20:01:08 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3j7si4$dp5@news-2.csn.net>
Is there a list of the top 10 shareware/freeware downloads for NEXTSTEP? If
so, could someone mail it to me? If not I am willing to compile and maintain
this list.
Please send me your top 10 list. When possible include the MAB
information (INTEL, HP, MOTO, SPARC), and a short description of the
app if it is not obvious.
Thanks in advance. I'll post the list in a week or two.
Thanks
Troy
--
* Troy Weingart Internet: troyw@csn.org *
* 6825 Ashley Drive AT&Tnet: 719.574.9844 *
* Colo Sprgs, CO 80922 *
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Plotting software that understands time
Date: 3 Mar 1995 21:54:32 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3j836o$e4m@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I need a plotting packaage that willhandle things like
10:39:00 0:20
10:44:19 0:14
10:49:34 0:20
10:54:55 2:53
11:02:49 0:18
11:08:11 0:20
11:13:32 0:18
11:18:50 0:19
11:24:10 0:27
11:29:40 0:17
11:34:58 0:15
11:40:14 0:15
11:45:33 0:19
11:50:51 0:19
11:56:11 0:17
12:01:25 0:49
Or even better: stuff like the output of Date
Fri Mar 3 14:56:06 MST 1995 Value...
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> Physics Dept, U of A SysAdmin, Space Physics Group <=
=> Edmonton, Alberta, T6G 2J1 403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-0714 <=
=> Contract sysadmin, tech writing, & unix troubleshooting. <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: vrn@everest.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz)
Subject: DEC VT320 emulation product
Message-ID: <D534Ct.DHu@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:19:02 GMT
I'm in the market for Terminal Emulation package which supports DEC VT320
in vt300-7 and vt300-8 modes, and it would be nice if the product had some
flexibility in preferences such as character sets, color, keyboard
mapping, etc. Is there a currently available product out there or do I
call my friendly local developer?
\/\/\/ Vince Netz, MIS Manager
\/\/\/ Outcomes Research and Utilization Management
\/\/\/ The University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinics
Minneapolis, MN 55455
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is MAB Getting Out Of Hand?
Date: 3 Mar 1995 14:29:16 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503032028.AA28901@alleg.EDU>
I'd just like to say that I am fortunate enough to do all my logins
via the loginpanel, and therefore I don't have to worry about
extensive / frustrating times spent downloading.
I also use TickleServices, which makes 'thinning' for current easier
than one could imagine.
So, having mentioned how glad I am to not have to worry about those
problems, I'd like to thank Denise and all the other people who are
out there creating and maintaining software for the NeXT, much of it
free or available at incredibly cheap prices. I will probably be
leaving NeXTDom when I graduate in May, but I've been lucky enough to
work on what I think is still a revolutionary platform. Nothing
else, to me, is quite like a NeXT -- quirks and all.
I've also had singularly good fortune in dealing "personally" (ie via
email) with many members of the NeXTWorld. If Scott Hess and Carl
Edman (and a few others who I'm not remembering right now) could have
charged a nickel for every email message I've sent them, every
question I've asked them, they would have been able to buy and sell
B. Gates 3 times daily -- and never once did they get upset with my
ability to misunderstand the simplest of instructions, and my
absolute inability to understand anything that comes on the screen
after a 'man whatever'.
So I guess what I am saying is that I hope there will be a way found
to find an easier way to handle the multi-platforms, but while we are
at it, let's remember that 90% of these people are putting these
things out simply because they want to see NeXTStep continue. So
rather than criticizing how this or that was done, I'd rather just
have them keep putting stuff out. It enables us to use our rather
elite little system.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: dreed@orion.it.luc.edu (Dale F. Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VirtSpace: where is Pinnacle Inc?
Date: 7 Mar 1995 23:47:47 GMT
Organization: Loyola University of Chicago
Message-ID: <3jirb4$hup@apollo.it.luc.edu>
I'm looking for a virtual space manager and happened across VirtSpace.
It is a limited-time demo but can be purchased for relatively little
money. The only problem is there is no one to buy it FROM anymore.
I can't find Pinnacle Research, Inc. either through their e-mail address,
or phone number. The latest information I had for them (which doesn't
work) is:
Pinnacle Research, Inc.
4725 E. Sunrise Dr. #435
Tucson, AZ 85718
virtspace@pri.com (NeXT mail)
(602)529-1135 (Voice)
(602)299-9133 (FAX)
Anyone know where I can get ahold of them? Thanks!
Dale Reed
reed@math.luc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle 1.2 and NS3.3
Message-ID: <1995Mar6.190945.633@gamelan.shnet.org>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <3j637o$1me2@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 19:09:45 GMT
In article <3j637o$1me2@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> swekla@ee.ualberta.ca
(Brent Swekla ) writes:
> I think there is definitely some kind of incompatibility between
> CryptorBundle 1.2 and Mail 3.3.
>
> In two sets of 10 encrypted messages sent to myself, I was able
> to decrypt only the first one of set #1, and the first six of
> set #2.
>
From the mails I got it seems that many people use the bundle with
Mail-3.3 with success. On NeXT, HP and Intel platforms. There were some
problems with newer versions of PGP, so you should use PGP-2.6 as
delivered with the bundle.
--
----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.shnet.org -----
C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: nwc (Nick Christopher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIA == SLIP ?
Date: 7 Mar 1995 21:04:53 GMT
Organization: SHL Systemhouse Corp, New York, NY
Message-ID: <3jihpl$28u@piglet.ny.shl.com>
The package TIA was mentioned here in the context of SLIP. But the person also
mentioned that his TIA caused OmniWeb to crash... what is TIA? Is it SLIP truly
compatible? I have an Internet provider offering a very good price on a TIA
based connection.
\n
From: schaub@tam2000.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Astraloids (game) released on ftp.cs.orst.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 7 Mar 1995 14:08:57 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <3jhpdp$bh1@news.tamu.edu>
References: <1995Mar6.220014.29981@il.us.swissbank.com>
Mike Stepniczka (step@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
: Astraloids.app is now available on:
: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/Astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
Cool game. Plug a set of head-phones into you're monitor and play it that
way. The stereo sound makes quite a difference.
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unique font IDs? (HELP!)
Date: 8 Mar 1995 03:29:48 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3jj8bc$52d@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <3jigoe$75@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
This font problem is driving me crazy.
Here are the symptoms. I installed the new FontSearch preference module
off the net, and it seems to work wonderfully: I can break my fonts up
into umpteen different directories, and set the FontPath dwrite with a
mouse-click, automagically updating the .fontlist, .fontdirectory, and
afmcache at the same time.
Everything seems to work...except that ALL my fonts that once lived in
~/Library/Fonts (and that now live in ~/Library/Commercial/Fonts) have
ceased to work. The buildafmdir and cacheAFMData both go through with
no errors, I reboot to make sure everything is clean, and the fonts
show up in the font panel. But they all display as Courier! They
seem to have their own font metrics working, because if I try to type
in one of these fonts, the cursor rapidly gets out of whack relative
to the Courier letters being displayed. TypeView.app shows a full
font table (of Courier) labelled with the name of the font selected.
This is not the "unusable font" behavior that a corrupted font usually
produces: the programs using the fonts think they are valid.
These are not random shareware fonts with possible corruption. They
are all my real, commercial PostScript fonts, such as Sonata and
NewCenturySchoolbook and Futura. They diff as identical to backed-up
copies from last month, which worked then but which don't work now
when restored from the backup. They all have UniqueID's of their own.
The only thing I know of that has changed since they last worked is
the directory they are in...and putting them back does NOT fix the
problem. Does the font-becomes-Courier symptom suggest anything to
anyone...PLEASE? I'm about at my wit's end.
Never trust a man |========================================================
who can count to 1023 | Joshua W Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
on his fingertips. |========================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: NXFax with USR Sportster V.34
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 95 20:47:02 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar7.204702.18198@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
References: <D4vqst.48M@fritz.snafu.de> <3jarhv$qie@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <D4zJwH.8Mq@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> <3jfgir$qts@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
>:Until that time, one can use the slightly less reliable mgetty+sendfax V0.22
>:software (more patches and scripts were posted on Friday by me on this) which
>:works well for Class 2.0 FAX modems such as the USR V.34 Sportster and
>:Couriers.
>Maybe you could put a package together (please)?
That was what I posted on Friday ...
>It would be ideal if I didn't have to install GhostScript, which seems very
>redundant. Thanks!
I use Ghostscript to give me PostScript to dot matrix printer support, so it is
not redundant for me at least ...
Ciao -- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: phand@netcom.com (Peter Hand)
Subject: Stroke rehab software for Black hardware
Message-ID: <phandD53pG0.Gy5@netcom.com>
Keywords: stroke, rehabilitation, language training, speech therapy
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 02:55:12 GMT
Sender: phand@netcom.netcom.com
Hello All,
A relative of mine had a stroke and is trying to recover his speech.
I'd like to contribute my NextStation to his effort, along with
any software for language retraining and/or speech therapy that I can
find or, if necessary, build.
Does such software exist, or will I have to write it? If the latter, I
could use pointers to toolkits for speech recognition, speech synthesis
of onscreen text, and databases of text (or digitized speech) and
associated images. The last is probably the most immediately useful.
Thanks for any help. Email is fine. I'd be happy to post a summary
of responses, if there's interest.
PAH
From: changliu@cco.caltech.edu (Chang Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is OmniFilter* file
Date: 8 Mar 1995 09:20:14 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3jjsse$6n1@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Keywords: omniweb
I tried to get into ftp.cs.orst.edu/software
/binaries/wide-area-info accoring to the
Readme note left at the Omniweb.com site, but
I could not find the file omnifilter*.app.tar.Z.
All the rest of the files (like main application
files) were there, only the graphic filter is missing.
Can anyone tell me where I can get that file now?
Chang Liu
California Institute of Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steven Borrelli)
Subject: Re: TIA == SLIP ?
References: <3jihpl$28u@piglet.ny.shl.com>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 02:48:30 GMT
Message-ID: <D53p4v.EB3@ritz.mordor.com>
In article <3jihpl$28u@piglet.ny.shl.com>,
Nick Christopher <nwc@ny.shl.com> wrote:
>
>The package TIA was mentioned here in the context of SLIP. But the person also
>mentioned that his TIA caused OmniWeb to crash... what is TIA? Is it SLIP truly
>compatible? I have an Internet provider offering a very good price on a TIA
>based connection.
>
I'm running TIA off of mordor.com here in the NY area and everything works
fine. Tia is similar to term and is not a fully functional IP connection
(i.e., talk and ping won't work), but it's fine for OmniWeb, Newsgrazer,
PopOver, NeXTmail, outgoing telnet and ftp.
I don't think I've had any problems with OmniWeb that aren't related to
the program itself.
_steve
--
Steven Borrelli borrelli@ritz.mordor.com
NeXT, MIME mail formats, finger for PGP key, blah blah blah
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Recent Fiend binary submission
Date: 8 Mar 1995 08:40:40 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3jkc4o$5h2@panix.com>
Hi.
Someone just made me aware of the fact that there
had been a submission of a binary (NIH) copy of
Fiend1.0 to orst.
I have removed this copy, since it is very old and
buggy - the only reason that I let the old copy
stay out there is for people to see some source
examples. Also, there is already a binary version
1.0 of Fiend on the German archive sites.
To the original poster: I apologize for deleting,
rather than renaming the file - I wasn't thinking clearly,
this morning, and I realize that simply renaming
would have taken care of things.
To everyone else: please use either Fiend 1.2 or 1.3,
both of which are on the archive sites, compiled triple
and quad-fat, respectively. (Pick your version according
to which bugs you like better ;-) Fiend 1.3 is much
nicer feature-wise, but has introduced a couple of
stupid bugs that may bite you. I suggest trying
version 1.3 first, and if you get bitten by its bugs,
then try the older one.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rupi@ceco.ceco.com (Rupinder Bains)
Subject: Astraloids!!!
Message-ID: <D51DuD.3pF@ceco.ceco.com>
Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator)
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Company
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 20:49:25 GMT
I just downloaded a game called Astraloids from ftp.cs.orst.edu which is a spin-off
of the Asteroids game. It is excellent!! The graphics are top-notch and all the
motion is very smooth and uninterrupted. The sound effects are rather good also.
Just thought everyone would like to know about it!
Thanks.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Plotting software that understands time
Date: 4 Mar 1995 05:46:07 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3j8uqv$fee@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3j836o$e4m@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <3j836o$e4m@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
System Administrator <sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>I need a plotting packaage that willhandle things like
>10:39:00 0:20
>10:44:19 0:14
>10:49:34 0:20
>10:54:55 2:53
>11:02:49 0:18
>11:08:11 0:20
>11:13:32 0:18
>11:18:50 0:19
>11:24:10 0:27
>11:29:40 0:17
>11:34:58 0:15
>11:40:14 0:15
At first glance I thought Mesa will handle it. It can store the data in
time/date format but I could not get the example data to plot.
Sas 6.07 for NS will (for 68K at least) will accept this, but internally it
will change it to seconds or some other internal unit.
Since this will happen anyway, why not just write a simple c program or
Gawk script to do the conversion and pipe the data to Sciplot or Hippodraw,
which are infinitely easier to use as plotting programs than Sas and Next
interfaces that are far more functional.
If you want something that will maintain the time data as time internally
for plotting purpose (as labels etc) I cannot offer further help unless
someone can suggest how to get Mesa to do the right thing.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: dpolicar@apollo.athena.com (Dave Policar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Plotting software that understands time
Date: 7 Mar 1995 17:55:26 GMT
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ji6me$mtk@hermes.athena.com>
References: <3j836o$e4m@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
System Administrator writes
> I need a plotting packaage that willhandle things like
> 10:39:00 0:20
> 10:44:19 0:14
> 10:49:34 0:20
[etc.]
I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but I'm assuming you want
to treat these as X,Y coordinate pairs? (I'm a little confused by your
second column.)
In any case, you can enter values like the above within Mesa and it will
record them as date serial numbers, which you can graph as, say, an XY
graph. You will have to futz with the graph a bit to get the scale you
want (by default, Mesa axes start from zero, which is usually right but
less so for dates and times). You can set the display formats of the axes
as well. All this is controlled through the graph inspector (see Current,
Label, and Scale).
Take a look at our demo on the 'net to try it out:
ftp.athena.com::/pub/Mesa
..and contact us if you have any questions.
Thanks!
---
David Policar (dpolicar@athena.com)
Product Development Manager, Athena Design, Inc.
17 St. Mary's Court, Boston MA 02146 (617)734-6372
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." --
Margaret Mead
>
> Or even better: stuff like the output of Date
> Fri Mar 3 14:56:06 MST 1995 Value...
>
>
> --
> => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
> => Physics Dept, U of A SysAdmin, Space Physics Group <=
> => Edmonton, Alberta, T6G 2J1 403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-0714 <=
> => Contract sysadmin, tech writing, & unix troubleshooting. <=
--
David Policar (dpolicar@athena.com)
Product Development Manager, Athena Design, Inc.
17 St. Mary's Court, Boston MA 02146 (617)734-6372
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." --
Margaret Mead
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Re: VirtSpace: where is Pinnacle Inc?
Message-ID: <D53s5G.2q7@nyro.com>
Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - markets VirtSpace(tm), Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm) and other NEXTSTEP software.
References: <3jirb4$hup@apollo.it.luc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 03:53:39 GMT
They are no longer in business.
VirtSpace is available from:
NYRO Technix, Inc.
236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341
San Francisco CA 94127
415 664-1170 voice
415 664-5530 fax
NYRO Technix, Inc. markets VirtSpace(tm),
Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm),
On-Vacation(tm), ReadReceiptPlus(tm) and
other NEXTSTEP software.
In article <3jirb4$hup@apollo.it.luc.edu> dreed@orion.it.luc.edu (Dale F.
Reed) writes:
> I'm looking for a virtual space manager and happened across VirtSpace.
> It is a limited-time demo but can be purchased for relatively little
> money. The only problem is there is no one to buy it FROM anymore.
>
> I can't find Pinnacle Research, Inc. either through their e-mail
address,
> or phone number. The latest information I had for them (which doesn't
> work) is:
> Pinnacle Research, Inc.
> 4725 E. Sunrise Dr. #435
> Tucson, AZ 85718
>
> virtspace@pri.com (NeXT mail)
> (602)529-1135 (Voice)
> (602)299-9133 (FAX)
>
> Anyone know where I can get ahold of them? Thanks!
>
> Dale Reed
> reed@math.luc.edu
>
From: faizel@mail.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MiniSQL problems
Date: 8 Mar 1995 06:33:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jjj3n$eum@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3jibucINNmql@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
In article <3jibucINNmql@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca
(Steven Kenneth Besler) writes:
> I've installed MiniSQL-1.0.5 on my Turbo Slab running NeXTSTEP 3.0.
> The setup scripts fail to recognize my machine's configuration, and
> then while compiling complained that <unistd.h> did not exist.
> I commented out that line of source, and it built OK.
>
> Now it is failing the test "rtest" which comes with the distribution.
> The output from 8.test is zero records, rather than 3.
>
When you said that the setup script failed to recognize your configuration, do
you mean that it didn't know you were running NEXTSTEP? I know this is a
problem because there's no uname command on NEXTSTEP, which is what the script
is using to determine your configuration. I just told the setup script that I
was running NEXTSTEP, and it created the right subdirectory under the targets
tree. I didn't have any problem during the compile.
> Also, I installed the DBKit adaptor. It fails to load. "otool -h"
> says that the file is not an executable, although it prints the headers
> for the Oracle and Sybase adaptors.
>
> Has anybody got these to work under NS 3.0 ? Is this yet another reason
> to upgrade ASAFP?
The DBKit adaptor is a different story. I haven't been able to get it to work
with MiniSQL 1.0.5, and I know of a few other folks who've had the same
problem. I've been using MiniSQL version 0.2 (thanks to Scott Davenport for
his help), which the adaptor seems to be able to connect to.
I tried using otool -h on the adaptor and it seemed to report fine for me. Oh
yeah, I'm using NS 3.2 for Intel, so I guess it looks as though things are a
little better for NS 3.2.
>
> Thanks for any responses. (email or posted)
>
> Steven K. Besler
Hope this sheds some light,
--Faizel
--
Faizel Dakri
faizel@mail.utexas.edu (NeXTmail *friendly*)
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DEC VT320 emulation product
Date: 8 Mar 1995 23:23:48 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3jlvsk$a5@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <D534Ct.DHu@news.cis.umn.edu>
<I'm in the market for Terminal Emulation package which supports DEC VT320
<in vt300-7 and vt300-8 modes, and it would be nice if the product had
some
<flexibility in preferences such as character sets, color, keyboard
<mapping, etc. Is there a currently available product out there or do I
<call my friendly local developer?
Try Cables.app from Yrrid
Besides supporting DEC VT320 it also does ANSI PC and a couple others.
It will also perform all the fuunctions you mentioned above and works well
with modems. Cost is pretty cheap try info@yrrid.com.
Hope I have helped a little.
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail @pgate.boeing.com:mdefino@rilsd01
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Unique font IDs?
Date: 7 Mar 1995 20:47:10 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3jigoe$75@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
After over five years with NeXTstep, I still am being plagued with font
flakiness. This nonsense has been going on since NS 0.9, and I'm still
having troubles in 3.2. Fonts that used to work suddenly become unusable,
or show up as Ohlfs or Helvetica, or kill the windowserver....
First of all, is there _anyone_ out there who keeps over 500 fonts around
and NEVER experiences any of these problems? If so, please send me email,
so that I can try to track down what you're doing right.
Second, there was one trick that worked back in NS 2.1 days (or maybe it
was 3.0, and the 2.1 fix was rebuilding the afmcaches every time you
logged out; I can no longer keep track of them). The problem was that
the Lexi font had a very low /UniqueID (3, I think), and that other fonts
without a defined UniqueID would get assigned to the same one, thereby
screwing things up. Does anyone remember the details of this problem,
and the precise fix? It was tricky---just resetting the UniqueID on
Lexi to a random high number wasn't enough. It's not in the FAQ, alas,
and though I thought I kept a note to myself about it at the time, it
seems I did not. Does anyone remember how this worked?
Third, if anyone else can figure out why all the fonts in ~/Library/Fonts
should suddenly begin showing up as Helvetica, after I installed a new
font in /LocalLibrary/Fonts---removing the new font and rebuilding the
caches doesn't get them back---I'd be most grateful. This is getting to
be tiresome....
For every complex problem |===================================================
there is a simple solution,| Joshua W Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
and it's wrong. |===================================================
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe has no Loyalty (was Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader)
Date: 7 Mar 1995 06:04:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3jgt21$hb9@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3igi8v$l99@network.ucsd.edu> <1995Feb27.104236.2743@proximus.north.de>
Gerhard Moeller (gemoe@proximus.north.de) wrote:
: In article <3igi8v$l99@network.ucsd.edu>,
: Christopher Penrose <penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu> wrote:
: [...]
: >NeXTstep, the only operating system with a display
: >postscript interface.
: [...]
: Aihhh-X
: Slowlaris
: Gerhard.
I don't think this is true. While these two UNIXes may allow an
application to display something using DPS, the GUIs that come with them
are definitely not DPS and have nothing close to the universal fonts
niceness that NS has.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin +
+ kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
Subject: Omniweb and images -> help
Message-ID: <1995Mar7.175054.21935@bme.ri.ccf.org>
Sender: usenet@bme.ri.ccf.org
Organization: Biomedical Engineering, Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:50:54 GMT
I downloaded OmniWeb a while ago and started surfing the net. I've come across
one anoying limitation: All the images show up as generic icons and when I
click on them, my Gif viewer starts up but gives an error that this is not a
GIF file. I am using ViewGif2 ver. 1.0. Is this the way this software and my
hardware (a 2 bit NeXTStation) are supposed to work together? Please advise
through e-mail.
Thank you.
--
Ivan Vesely, Ph.D.
Associate Scientist
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Cleveland Clinic Foundation
vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X-windows on the NeXT machine
Message-ID: <1995Mar8.190934.39096@msuvx2.memphis.edu>
From: kumarr@ariel.msci.memphis.edu (Raj N. Kumar)
Date: 8 Mar 95 19:09:33 -0500
Hi,
Is it possible to run X-windows on the NeXT Turbo Color
workstation. If not why ?
ThanQ
From: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: "WYSIWYG" HTML
Date: 9 Mar 1995 08:06:48 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <950308193751.1154AACUO.malc@daneel>
Kudos to Xanthus for the latest beta version of OpenWrite which includes an
HTML previewer and editor. It's a bit messy at the moment, and the HTML it
produces could itself be better formatted, but for those not wanting to get
down to the nitty-gritty for themselves it's going to be very useful.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC problems
Date: 8 Mar 1995 20:56:18 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <3jl252$36o@surt.ifi.uio.no>
I have installed SoftPC 4.0 that comes as a demo with NS-3.3.
How do I start up an Enhanched mode program from the DOS partition
(FSA drive E)?
If I try to start up an Enhanched mode prg. from E:, I either get an
error about missing files or I get an error telling me that the
prg. requires Enhanched mode.
I think the problem is that when I start a program from E: the WIN.INI
file on E: will be read and that WIN.INI referes to files on C which
is now SoftPCs C drive, so it will not find the files there, and this
WIN.INI has no [compatability] setting telling SoftPC that this
prg. should be run in PseudoEnhanched mode. I don't wan't to mess up
the WIN.INI on the DOS partition, so how do I get around this problem?
I am able to run these programs by installing them on SoftPCs virtual
HD, but this is a waste of HD space.
Another problem is that when I try to set the D drive in SoftPCs
preferences to point to my DOS partition (by first choosing the DOS
partition and then clicking the "DOS Drive" button) I get the
errormessage:
The hard disk file is not a valid hard disk (disk geometry
incorrect)
I have a DOS 6 partition. Can't SoftPC handle this version?
Arne
--
(arneha@ifi.uio.no)
--
(arneha@ifi.uio.no)
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: desired Mail.app dwrites (was: Re: Secrets of Mail.app 3.3 uncovered !)
Date: 8 Mar 1995 15:08:01 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503082107.AA03418@alleg.EDU>
Now that there have been so many secrets found, I figured it must be
time for a wishlist of new dwrites ;-)
[ Please note: none of these dwrites actually exist, I made them all up]
dwrite Mail ReadReceiptDefaultAnswer YES/NO
this would change whether the Read Receipt warning panel would come
up (asking if you want to send a read receipt or not) with either YES
or NO as the default answer (meaning you could hit 'return' to choose
that answer). Right now it is over-kind by default and is set to
'YES'.
dwrite Mail ForwardIndentString ""
this would be what was added before each line of a forwarded message.
There was some cry for this earlier this year, and a solution was
offered using TickleServices and Carl Edman's mailapp-utilities, but
it really should be an option.
dwrite Mail ConfirmDeliver YES/NO
ever hit return and then realize you didn't want to? This would be a
little panel that would offer to a) return the mail message 2) delete
it or 3) send it.
Any other suggestions?
I'd still like to see a 'time dated' message -- one that will vanish
if not read by some date or time.... but that is probably a little
extreme ;-)
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr)
Subject: Successor for WriteNow?
Message-ID: <1995Mar9.100634.11371@mjw.octagon.de>
Sender: mane@mjw.octagon.de
Organization: Microcomputer-Jobs and Workouts
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:06:34 GMT
Hi there out!
Is there an offical successor for WriteNow?
I mean: a program that't similar to handle, where I can use my old
documents, where an upgrade-path exists?
Thanks for any hints, bye.
--
Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de
--
From: pericles@athena.com (Jamie O'Keefe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anybody know of an NXHost launcher?
Date: 9 Mar 1995 16:58:28 GMT
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <3jnc3l$ke2@hermes.athena.com>
Keywords: NXHost, launcher
Hi,
I am looking for a NEXTSTEP app that will allow me to click on a button
and have it start up an application NXHosted from another machine. Any
one know of such an applet? If so then send me mail. Thanks.
Jamie
_____________________________________________________
Jamie O'Keefe pericles@athena.com (NeXTMail ok)
Quality Manager, Athena Design, Inc. 617.426.6372
Director, Boston Computer Society NeXT User Group
Fan, Kristin Hersh and the Throwing Muses
_____________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Re: Astraloids (game) released on ftp.cs.orst.edu
Message-ID: <eldD55F02.1uM@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <1995Mar6.220014.29981@il.us.swissbank.com> <3jhpdp$bh1@news.tamu.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:04:50 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom4.netcom.com
Hanspeter Schaub (schaub@tam2000.tamu.edu) wrote:
: Mike Stepniczka (step@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
: : Astraloids.app is now available on:
: : ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
: : ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/games/Astraloids.1.01.tar.Z
: Cool game. Plug a set of head-phones into you're monitor and play it that
: way. The stereo sound makes quite a difference.
is it FAT?
if no, Black or White?
--
-->ericd<---------------------------------------------------------------------
eld@netcom.com <---> ambient, 3-D, unix, denver, interface, gravity
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: scorley@woodman.advtech.uswest.com (Steve Corley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cartoon app
Date: 7 Mar 1995 21:30:21 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Message-ID: <3jij9d$7l0@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com>
Does anyone out there know of an app that lets you create cartoons? I
have dialogue that's based on years of experience and idiots that I
seem to attract, but my cartoon skills aren't up to snuff. Like
others, feel free to email me any ideas you may have as NewsGrazer
won't stay up very long.
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: matt@NeXT.COM (Matt Morse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Daydream and MS Word
Date: 8 Mar 95 22:00:13
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MATT.95Mar8220013@scooter.NeXT.COM>
By any chance, has anyone successfully run Microsoft Word using a
Daydream (Mac emulator) box on a NeXTstation Color Turbo?
My father has such a combination and installed Microsoft Office (which
includes Word, Excel, and some other apps). None of these apps run under
Daydream, although many other Mac apps run. We get helpful hints like
"Bad F line instruction".
Suggestions welcome--he's taking a course in Word and doesn't want to buy
a Mac!
From: lescomp@ix.netcom.com (Mark LeScoezec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Drive for Kensington Expert Mouse 4.0??
Date: 8 Mar 1995 22:27:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jlb07$kr9@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Does anyone know of a driver that will work with the Kensington Expert
Mouse 4.0 trackball? I really have grown attached to it.
thanks
Mark LeScoezec
Soros Fund Management
Network Administrator
lescomp@ix.netcom.com
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: accessing dos partition from softpc
Date: 9 Mar 1995 03:27:13 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jlsih$2lr@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <3jdg6v$dsb@sparc.eunet.si>
The real problem is that all my windows applications sit on the DOS bootup
drive and on a SoftPC drive. I wish SoftPC could run my standard windows
from the dos drive itself...
/ivo welch
From: 6995634@mcimail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Testing NeXT apps
Date: 8 Mar 1995 17:22:11 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3jkp43$34e@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Are there any testing tools available for testing NeXT applications? I
looking to test and automate regression testing of a NeXT application under
development. If anyone knows of any, please post to this group or e-mail me
directly.
Thanks in advance.....
From: deniseh@mcs.com (Denise Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cartoon app
Date: 9 Mar 1995 05:38:32 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jm48p$jqm@News1.mcs.com>
References: <3jij9d$7l0@cherokee.advtech.uswest.com>
Steve Corley writes
> Does anyone out there know of an app that lets you create cartoons? I have
> dialogue that's based on years of experience and idiots that I seem to
> attract, but my cartoon skills aren't up to snuff. Like others, feel free to
> email me any ideas you may have as NewsGrazer won't stay up very long.
Cambridge Animation Systems produces the following suite of apps:
Animo Studio - digital ink & paint
Animo Animator - automatic inbetweening of character
AnimoLipSync - automatic dialogue lipsync
Animo SFX- effects for animation.
They're geared toward professional animators so their prices may be out of the
individual user's range, I dunno. I saw a one-on-one demo of Studio and
Animator at SIGGRAPH '94 and was impressed. (But then I'm not a professional
animator!)
I'm not sure of an exact e-mail address, but admin@cam-ani-us.com or
admin@cam-ani.co.uk ought to point you in the right direction.
Denise
--
Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to
Chicago, IL | banging one's head against a wall, but with
| fewer opportunities for reward.
deniseh@mcs.com | NeXTMail welcome!
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does an equivalent of Lotus Improv exist?
Date: 9 Mar 1995 00:29:14 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jli4q$nfs@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <D4vwEv.5oE@RnA.NL>
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
> Man do I love Lotus. I had to use it again this week and I realy
> like the way it does the categories, the flip-flopping of orders,
> axes, etc.
>
> So, my question: does an equivalent spreadsheet exist for NEXTSTEP?
> If I furnish an office with NS/FIP is there a "Lotus Improv" to
> be used?
LightHouse Design recently started shipping a spreadsheet called
Quantrix, which is pretty much a reborn version of Improv. One
note is that it can't read in Improv files (the ones with a .imp
suffix), but it can read in "Improv ascii" files (which have .imx
as the suffix). The original NeXT hardware version of Improv can
Save-As improv ascii.
The downside of this is that Improv Ascii just includes all the
data, labels, and formula. If you have spreadsheets where you had
done all kinds of special format-tweaking (different fonts, formats,
or sizes for different rows, boxes, whatever), then you loose all
that "prettifying" information. In a few cases, that's kinda
painful for me, where I have spreadsheets that I've tweaked to
death over the years. All the information came across into Quantrix
just fine, but then I had to go thru and do my special formatting
all over again...
I haven't done a lot with Quantrix, but for the things I've done
it's worked quite well. I don't think it has the Presentation
Builder capabilities that Improv had, but then the spreadsheets
I've redone so far haven't used those anyway (so I haven't
really been looking at it's charting/graphing capabilities).
I've always like Improv a lot more than any standard spreadsheet
program (I've never liked standard spreadsheet programs...), so
I was very happy to see this and to pick it up. I've got it
running on a NS/Intel machine, which is something I couldn't
have said with Improv...
You could probably check URL
http://www.lighthouse.com/ProductInfo/Quantrix.html
for more info.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: Unique font IDs? (Solved!)
Date: 8 Mar 1995 19:56:19 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3jl253$3o0@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <3jj8bc$52d@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
Yesterday I reported a problem with recently moved fonts:
> Everything seems to work...except that ALL my fonts that once lived in
> ~/Library/Fonts (and that now live in ~/Library/Commercial/Fonts) have
> ceased to work. The buildafmdir and cacheAFMData both go through with
> no errors, I reboot to make sure everything is clean, and the fonts
> show up in the font panel. But they all display as Courier! They
> seem to have their own font metrics working, because if I try to type
> in one of these fonts, the cursor rapidly gets out of whack relative
> to the Courier letters being displayed. TypeView.app shows a full
> font table (of Courier) labelled with the name of the font selected.
> This is not the "unusable font" behavior that a corrupted font usually
> produces: the programs using the fonts think they are valid.
The problem is solved, but still not completely understood. In
fumbling around to fix it, I eventually tried LINKING the fonts
back to /LocalLibrary/Fonts, and rebuilding the .afmcache THERE as
well. This restored them to full functionality.
Apparently, a font has to be in a directory listed in your NXFontsPaths
default, or it won't appear in your font panel. However, it has to be
in ~/Library/Fonts, /LocalLibrary/Fonts, or /NextLibrary/Fonts, no
excuses or alternatives, or else applications will be unable to read
the outlines. (They read the afm's correctly, and therefore you get
Courier, with whatever spacing your font would have had.) The workaround
if you want your fonts in other locations is to link them back into
/LocalLibrary/Fonts. If you exclude /LocalLibrary/Fonts from your
NXFontsPaths, then you won't have to have all the fonts in your panel
at once, and can add or remove them one directory at a time with a
dwrite. But they HAVE to be at least linked in a canonical location.
Followups to c.s.n.bugs, unless someone can convince me this is the
proper behavior....
There's an art to knowing when. +--------------------------------------+
Never try to guess. | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 |
Toast until it smokes and then | burton@het.brown.edu |
Twenty seconds less. -- Piet Hein +--------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: NXFax with USR Sportster V.34
In-Reply-To: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu's message of 8 Mar 1995 23:45:54 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Mar9101430@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <D4vqst.48M@fritz.snafu.de> <3jarhv$qie@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
<D4zJwH.8Mq@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> <3jfgir$qts@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
<1995Mar7.204702.18198@ve6mgs.ampr.org> <3jlfji$nam@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:14:28 GMT
I know at least one person that is using mgetty+sendfax in combination
with DPS. Maybe you can talk to him:
Christian Starkjohann <cs@ecs.co.at> or <cs@ds1.kph.tuwien.ac.at>
--
______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Steven Kenneth Besler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3jo9kmINNf7b@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
Control: cancel <3jo9kmINNf7b@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
Date: 9 Mar 1995 17:23:35 -0800
Organization: Rick's Lab, Computer Science, UBC, Vancouver., B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3jo9mnINNfib@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
<3jo9kmINNf7b@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> was cancelled from within trn.
--
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"Newborn still warm / Naked in the rush hour / Dancing in my gutter" -Frente!
From: x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Steven Kenneth Besler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MiniSQL problems
Date: 9 Mar 1995 17:24:57 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3jo9p9INNfrg@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
References: <3jibucINNmql@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> <3jjj3n$eum@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3jo9kmINNf7b@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
In article <3jjj3n$eum@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
Faizel Dakri <faizel@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>When you said that the setup script failed to recognize your configuration,do
>you mean that it didn't know you were running NEXTSTEP? I know this is a
>problem because there's no uname command on NEXTSTEP, which is what the script
>is using to determine your configuration. I just told the setup script that I
>was running NEXTSTEP, and it created the right subdirectory under the targets
>tree. I didn't have any problem during the compile.
It didn't auto-recognize. Also, during the compile, it couldn't find
unistd.h, so I uncommented that line in the source, and it built after that.
I used NeXTSTEP-3.0-m68k as the target string. What did you use? Does it
matter, or is that just what it names the target directory?
>The DBKit adaptor is a different story. I haven't been able to get it to work
>with MiniSQL 1.0.5, and I know of a few other folks who've had the same
>problem. I've been using MiniSQL version 0.2 (thanks to Scott Davenport for
>his help), which the adaptor seems to be able to connect to.
Should I downgrade?
>I tried using otool -h on the adaptor and it seemed to report fine for me. Oh
>yeah, I'm using NS 3.2 for Intel, so I guess it looks as though things are a
>little better for NS 3.2.
Hmm. Perhaps 3.0 cannot load MAB bundles. I'm pretty sure it can run
MAB apps, though.
>Hope this sheds some light,
Thanks! It's a start.
Steve
--
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"Newborn still warm / Naked in the rush hour / Dancing in my gutter" -Frente!
From: Eric_Litman@nxstep.com (Eric A. Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody know of an NXHost launcher?
Date: 9 Mar 1995 14:34:59 -0600
Organization: Viaduct, Inc.
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503092034.AA22958@nxstep.com>
# I am looking for a NEXTSTEP app that will allow me to click on a button and
# have it start up an application NXHosted from another machine. Any one know
# of such an applet? If so then send me mail. Thanks.
Try /NextDeveloper/Demos/OpenSesame.app.
</eal>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Re: MiniSQL problems
Message-ID: <D569EC.5FA@trapac.com>
Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation
References: <3jibucINNmql@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 12:01:23 GMT
In article <3jibucINNmql@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Steven Kenneth Besler) writes:
>I've installed MiniSQL-1.0.5 on my Turbo Slab running NeXTSTEP 3.0.
>
>Also, I installed the DBKit adaptor. It fails to load. "otool -h"
>says that the file is not an executable, although it prints the headers
>for the Oracle and Sybase adaptors.
>
NeXTSTEP 3.0 supports fat applications, but does not support fat
bundles (like DBKit or EOF adaptors.). There is a good chance that
the adaptor is fat, and cannot be loaded. Use lipo or plipo to
convert it to be a thin binary. Then you should be able to load
it.
--
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
[My opinions are my own]
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Astraloids (game) released on ftp.cs.orst.edu
Date: 9 Mar 1995 18:45:52 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jnid0$aa@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <eldD55F02.1uM@netcom.com>
eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis) writes:
> : Mike Stepniczka (step@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
> : : Astraloids.app is now available on:
>
> is it FAT?
> if no, Black or White?
It's an "NI" binary (NeXT and Intel, no HP or Sparc)
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: vt100 based news reader for NextStep 3.2
Date: 9 Mar 1995 17:19:20 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503092317.AA15238@alleg.EDU>
where to find 'tin' on ftp:
from "129.187.249.15"
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/tin.1.0.5.N.b.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/tin.1.2.NI.b.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/tin.1.2.README
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/tin.README
from "santiam.cs.orst.edu"
/software/NeXT/binaries/news/tin-1.0.5.tar.Z
/software/NeXT/binaries/news/tin.1.2.MAB.README
/software/NeXT/binaries/news/tin.1.2.MAB.gz
/software/NeXT/submissions/tin-1.22.tar.gz
Hope that helps.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where Alexandra is
Date: 9 Mar 1995 17:24:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503092323.AA15581@alleg.EDU>
I have tried to compile it but realize that I need
MiscKit. Is this generally available? and if so,
where?
from "129.187.249.15"
(older versions and other info also available from this site)
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/objc/misckit/MiscKit.1.4.1.README
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/objc/misckit/MiscKit.1.4.1.s.gnutar.gz
from "santiam.cs.orst.edu"
/software/NeXT/sources/classes/MiscKit1.4.1.s.gnutar.gz
/software/NeXT/sources/classes/MiscKit1.4.1.s.gnutar.gz.README
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (gary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: VirtSpace: where is Pinnacle Inc?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 9 Mar 1995 01:07:15 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3jlkc3$4m3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3jirb4$hup@apollo.it.luc.edu> <D53s5G.2q7@nyro.com>
Since I love VirtSpace so much, I'll add my $.02
I couldn't live without it... The program is so awesome...
If you don't have it, you are really missing out.
It's the most useful app I own...
Gary
-and no, I am not affiliated with the company, just a satisfied user.
Ian H. Stewart (ian@nyro.com) wrote:
: VirtSpace is available from:
: NYRO Technix, Inc.
: 236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341
: San Francisco CA 94127
: 415 664-1170 voice
: 415 664-5530 fax
: NYRO Technix, Inc. markets VirtSpace(tm),
: Faxcess(tm), UUCP-EZ(tm),
: On-Vacation(tm), ReadReceiptPlus(tm) and
: other NEXTSTEP software.
--
__________________________________________________________________
gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please
Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list
__________________________________________________________________
From: jacobsen@arundel.cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: GCL (AKCL) for NextStep, intel hardware?
Date: 9 Mar 1995 22:36:18 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <3jnvt2$1d7@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <3jnh7c$38r@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <3jnh7c$38r@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt
D. Bollacker) writes:
>What about Black HW? Will slight mods to the mods make it work for my
>NeXTSTation also? I can't get the stock distribution to work at all. It
>just barfs with a segmentation fault while runnning "raw_gcl" during the
>compile. Pointers anyone?
>
I was able to make GCL compile cleanly on my 'slab by using GNU make
and a "straight" gcc-2.6.3. I can make a binary distribution available
for those who do not want to compile gmake and gcc-2.6.3 before making
gcl.
Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Anyone wanna buy Virtuoso?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD57896.GGM@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 00:34:17 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom3.netcom.com
Hi,
I would like to sell my copy of Altsys Virtuoso (Aldus Freehand). My
version is 1.01, a full major version number behind the cutting edge,
but I think it can be upgraded for not too much money. All original
documentation, disks and packaging are still intact. It cost about $300
roughly a year ago, but now I will entertain ANY reasonable offer.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard)
Subject: Re: Anybody know of an NXHost launcher?
Message-ID: <1995Mar9.191826.4181@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3jnc3l$ke2@hermes.athena.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 19:18:26 GMT
Jamie O'Keefe writes
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a NEXTSTEP app that will allow me to click on a button
> and have it start up an application NXHosted from another machine. Any
> one know of such an applet? If so then send me mail. Thanks.
How about OpenSesame, in /NeXTDeveloper/Demos?
Denise
--
Denise Howard \/ howardd@swissbank.com
Swiss Bank Corporation \/ deniseh@mcs.com
Chicago, IL \/ [NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail welcome]
(312) 554-6298 \/ "Older and Bolder!"
From: eddy@hntp2.hinet.net (eddy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to find NEx000 driver for NS 3.3?
Date: 8 Mar 1995 22:50:14 GMT
Organization: HiNet
Message-ID: <3jlcb6$o08@serv.hinet.net>
as title!!
I use NEx000 for NS3.2 in NS3.3.
It always hang when ftping.
I don't know why??
Can anyone tell me how to solve it?
Or tell me where can I find NEx000 for NS3.3?
My machine configuration are below:
Pentium-90
GigaByte motherboard GA-586IP.
24 MB RAM
AHA 2940 SCSI
Diamond Stealth 64 4MB VRAM
Proaudio studio
Accton 1656(NE2000 compatibale, works fine under NS3.2!!)
EIDE
Plaxtor 43CH
Quantam PD700.
Thanks for your help.
--
-------------
Yi-Huang Han
Department of Computer Science & Information Enginerring
National ChungCheng University
Chiayi 621, Taiwan, R.O.C.
eddy@hntp2.hinet.net
hyh82@cs.ccu.edu.tw
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax with USR Sportster V.34
Date: 8 Mar 1995 23:45:54 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3jlfji$nam@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <D4vqst.48M@fritz.snafu.de> <3jarhv$qie@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <D4zJwH.8Mq@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> <3jfgir$qts@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <1995Mar7.204702.18198@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
Mark G. Salyzyn (mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org) wrote:
: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
: >:Until that time, one can use the slightly less reliable mgetty+sendfax V0.22
: >:software (more patches and scripts were posted on Friday by me on this) which
: >:works well for Class 2.0 FAX modems such as the USR V.34 Sportster and
: >:Couriers.
: >Maybe you could put a package together (please)?
: That was what I posted on Friday ...
Actually, I mean a *.pkg, canned, but I'll check it out. Thanks.
: >It would be ideal if I didn't have to install GhostScript, which seems very
: >redundant. Thanks!
: I use Ghostscript to give me PostScript to dot matrix printer support, so it is
: not redundant for me at least ...
Ghostscript clones PostScript, so IMHO it is redundant. DPS can easily
generate bitmaps at 200 dpi, so it would be ideal to use DPS instead of
another PostScript clone. I guess I'm getting greedy. Later...
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
rgc@cs.umd.edu
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Access service from within service provider?
Date: 9 Mar 1995 19:23:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3jnkj6$kv@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I hope I'm overlooking something obvious, but when I'm in Terminal, I'd
like to be able to invoke a Terminal service via a command key at the
current point of input. When I'm in OmniWeb, I'd like to apply some of
OmniWeb's 'Services' search items to the text I'm looking at. But I
can't get at the 'Services' of the application I'm currently using,
even though those services make sense for use within the app.
How do I do it? (Without always bouncing through Edit or
reimplementing every service in TickleServicess.) I'm using 3.2.
- Christopher "let me guess, it's a feature"
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fortran compiler
Date: 9 Mar 1995 20:18:44 GMT
Organization: I'm not really all that organized.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jnnr4$l6l@bunyan.covenant.edu>
References: <3j4rj9$918@news.nd.edu>
In article <3j4rj9$918@news.nd.edu> gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B.
Ross) writes:
> Dominik Madon writes
> > System Administrator (sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca) wrote:
> > : Richard M. Haas (rhaas@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
[message deleted]
Since g77 needs to be correlated with gcc, how about NeXT (eventually)
supplying a g77 version compatible with their current issue of gcc on the
Developer's CDRom? Would sure be nice for us edu people! (Well, at least
for those of us in the hard sciences who for whatever reason are unable to
completely escape from fortran...)
Cheers,
Don Petcher
From: eble@pegasus.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (Axel Eble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: free coXisting X server?
Date: 10 Mar 1995 07:50:08 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3jp0bg$8ol@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Hi folks,
is there a free X Window server that makes X and NS coexisting peacefully?
Axel
--
"Jede theoretische Erklaerung ist eine Reduzierung der Intuition." Peter Hxeg
******************************************************************************
Axel Eble Email: Axel.Eble@Informatik.Uni-Freiburg.DE
Institut fuer Informatik Fon: ++49 761 203 8184
Am Flughafen 17 Fax: ++49 761 203 8162
D-79110 Freiburg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Auto-Redial in Kermit
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Mar10130522@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 18:05:21 GMT
I am looking for a script in kermit that would redial the last number
composed if the line was busy. I tried the following:
define mydial dial \%1, while fail { redial, sleep 3 }
but it didn't work. I am running kermit5a188 and my modem is a
SupraFax.
Thank you,
Francois
--
______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: "straight C debugger
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 20:38:46 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950307203846.282AACUR.malc@daneel>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Does anybody have any recommendations for a graphical debugger for NEXTSTEP
for "straight" C (i.e. not for application development, just run-of-the-mill
command-line stuff).
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hidden treasures in 3.3
Date: 8 Mar 1995 02:32:56 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3jj50o$73u@news.next.com>
References: <1995Feb27.110751.2998@proximus.north.de>
In article <1995Feb27.110751.2998@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de
(Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> In article <3iimlr$5vq@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>,
> Gregor Hoffleit <flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
> [...]
> >- Is there anybody but Carl Edman who has noticed that "zsh" is finally
> >aboard in 3.3 ?
> [...]
>
> Me. But it is a rather old version. ;-)
Uhm, NEXTSTEP 3.3 includes zsh 2.5.02, which dates back to about July 29 or so
of last year. NEXTSTEP 3.3 itself went to the presses about four months
later, which includes time for beta testing, etc. And you call that "a rather
old version"?
Geez, some people are never satisfied.
--Lennart
--
Disclaimer: All characters in this posting are fictional. Any resemblence
between this posting and an official statement from NeXT is coincidental.
Slight side effects may be experienced. Void where prohibited by law.
From: x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Steven Kenneth Besler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MiniSQL problems
Date: 7 Mar 1995 11:25:00 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3jibucINNmql@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
I've installed MiniSQL-1.0.5 on my Turbo Slab running NeXTSTEP 3.0.
The setup scripts fail to recognize my machine's configuration, and
then while compiling complained that <unistd.h> did not exist.
I commented out that line of source, and it built OK.
Now it is failing the test "rtest" which comes with the distribution.
The output from 8.test is zero records, rather than 3.
Also, I installed the DBKit adaptor. It fails to load. "otool -h"
says that the file is not an executable, although it prints the headers
for the Oracle and Sybase adaptors.
Has anybody got these to work under NS 3.0 ? Is this yet another reason
to upgrade ASAFP?
Thanks for any responses. (email or posted)
Steven K. Besler
--
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"Newborn still warm / Naked in the rush hour / Dancing in my gutter" -Frente!
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: free coXisting X server?
Date: 10 Mar 1995 22:06:49 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jqihp$lq5@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3jp0bg$8ol@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
In article <3jp0bg$8ol@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
eble@pegasus.informatik.uni-freiburg.de (Axel Eble) writes:
> is there a free X Window server that makes X and NS coexisting
peacefully?
Only for NextStep Motorolla. It's called MouseX. Furthermore, if you are
trying to port 32 bit color graphics from another X machine to MouseX on
your color NeXT, it won't work. MouseX for the color Nextstation is 16
bit only.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: george@nilwoods.ucs.ualberta.ca (George Carmichael)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any NeXT application for writing music?
Date: 8 Mar 1995 17:01:21 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3jknt1$11e2@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3j947s$q2o@news.service.uci.edu>
In article <3j947s$q2o@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
writes:
> Any freeware, shareware, or commercial application for writing
> music with nextstep?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Feng Liu
> Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
> University of California, Irvine
> Irvine, CA 92717
> phone: 714-824-3105 Fax: 714-824-8585
----> Contact: Keith Hammell, Vancouver.
(604) 321-1107
He's demonstrating a MIDI-based composing program
that is supposed to be like Finale, but easy to use.
Currently only on Black Hardware - NeXTStep V3
George Carmichael
Univ of Alberta
From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.maketplace
Subject: BenaTong still alive?
Date: 10 Mar 1995 15:51:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Message-ID: <3jpsi7$fr5@network.ucsd.edu>
I've been trying to get in touch with BenaTong for over a week now. My
e-mail bounced and I can only get an answering machine (Chuck Bennet's
office) when I call them. Nobody ever returned my calls. What's the deal
here?
Thanks,
jk
From: kbradley@130.35.1.6 (Kirk Bradley - Mainframe and Integration Technologies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where Alexandra is
Date: 11 Mar 1995 00:47:43 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA
Message-ID: <3jqrvf$mpv@dcsun4.us.oracle.com>
References: <3j61tr$1k9@network.ucsd.edu>
so far no crashes but no nice ways to go through msgs either.
I'd love to just hit the space bar all day long. ok.. maybe
even the arrow keys.
Think we'll get threading anytime soon?
Harmon Craig (passim@helium.ucsd.edu) wrote:
: I have had many requests for the location of the Alexandra News Reader, which is far
: superior to the Grazer, especially for its lack of crashes.
: Where it is:
: 129.187.249.15 ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
: What's there:
: 1995.01.18 5k pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/Alexandra.0.7.README
: 1995.01.18 71k pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/Alexandra.0.7.s.tar.gz
: 1995.01.18 513k pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/Alexandra.0.7.NIHS.b.tar.gz
: H. Craig
: hcraig@ucsd.edu
--
Kirk Bradley
Oracle Corporation
Mainframe and Integration Technologies Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fortran compiler
Message-ID: <1995Mar10.094409.44566@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Date: 10 Mar 95 09:44:09 MET
References: <3j4rj9$918@news.nd.edu> <3jnnr4$l6l@bunyan.covenant.edu>
Summary: FORTRAN
petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher) wrote:
>In article <3j4rj9$918@news.nd.edu> gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B.
>Ross) writes:
>> Dominik Madon writes
>> > System Administrator (sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca) wrote:
>> > : Richard M. Haas (rhaas@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
> [message deleted]
>Since g77 needs to be correlated with gcc, how about NeXT (eventually)
>supplying a g77 version compatible with their current issue of gcc on the
>Developer's CDRom? Would sure be nice for us edu people! (Well, at least
>for those of us in the hard sciences who for whatever reason are unable to
>completely escape from fortran...)
>Cheers,
>Don Petcher
Yep, another vote for that move. I'd be grateful as I will need to have a fortran compiler for my thesis ...
-Robert
From: kbradley@130.35.1.6 (Kirk Bradley - Mainframe and Integration Technologies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 11 Mar 1995 00:52:41 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA
Message-ID: <3jqs8p$mpv@dcsun4.us.oracle.com>
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950220152034.4851S-100000@avocado>
I tried that and disabled the proxy for news as well. What's
the URL format to get news (I thought it was news:xxx)
GH Chinoy (hussain@artsci.wustl.edu) wrote:
: Richard,
: OmniWeb 0.9.3 doesn't have a Preferences panel entry for the newshost.
: What you'll have to do is:
: dwrite OmniWeb NewsHost whatever.whatever.whatever
: Hussain
: ___ __________________________________________________________
: /\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
: \/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab
: NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis
: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
: On 18 Feb 1995 richard@runner.uucp wrote:
: > How do I set up preferences in OmniWeb
: > to tell OmniWeb to look at the local host
: > for usenet news?
: >
: > --
: > Richard
: > richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
: > (ok to send NeXT Mail)
: >
: >
--
Kirk Bradley
Oracle Corporation
Mainframe and Integration Technologies Group
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: c++ include file /usr/lib/g++/iomanip.h broken?
Date: 11 Mar 1995 04:31:06 GMT
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jr92a$jfg@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Anyone got a c++ source file to compile with
#include <iomanip.h> as a source line.
The compiler quits in this file.
I do not see the errors stated by the compiler.
Thanks,
David
From: biff@firstclass.unb.ca (Thomas Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GUI Stories
Date: 9 Mar 1995 15:18:36 GMT
Organization: FirstClass Systems P.D.C.
Message-ID: <3jn68c$gi1@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca>
I'm part of a team designing an introductory CBT course
on GUI Testing. One feature we'd like to include is
anecdotes from people who test software. They could be
horror stories, humorous, or just interesting encounters
while testing software. These will appear in the course
in the section to which the anecdote relates and would be
one to three paragraphs long. The anecdotes will be
optional to the student through a button. We feel that
a real-life story would help to reinforce the course
material.
If you have any anecdotes you would allow us to include in
the couse, we'd love to hear them.
The general areas are:
Finding all the bugs
When to stop testing
Automated tools
Quality Assurance
Complexity
Levels of testing
Types of testing
Defining test cases
Code walkthroughs
Testers
Users
OO
Ancestor code
Validation
Combo boxes
Radio buttons
Pushbuttons
Business logic
Database
... but not limited to these areas.
You can e-mail anecdotes to biff@firstclass.unb.ca.
Thanks in advance.
Biff
Silence says it all.
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: GCL (AKCL) for NextStep, intel hardware?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.lisp
Date: 9 Mar 1995 18:25:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3jnh7c$38r@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3jdrq4$rgh@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <3jesr2$qlk@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Rick Taube (hkt@ccrma.stanford.edu) wrote:
: The file:
: ftp.zkm.de:/pub/gcl-NeXT386.tar.gz
: has mods to get GCL 1.1 working on NeXTStep/Intel. An enclosed readme
: explains how to do it.
What about Black HW? Will slight mods to the mods make it work for my
NeXTSTation also? I can't get the stock distribution to work at all. It
just barfs with a segmentation fault while runnning "raw_gcl" during the
compile. Pointers anyone?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin +
+ kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jason@ipswich1.demon.co.uk (Jason Morphett)
Subject: *** Survey on Reuse (2 of 4) ***
Organization: None
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 08:06:39 +0000
Message-ID: <439930773wnr@ipswich1.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
======================
"Does Formal Specification of Object Behaviour Assist in Reuse"
Participants are asked to complete a survey questionnaire, which
is attached at the end of this message (duration c.10 mins).
Please mail responses direct to Jason Morphett
E-mail: jason@ipswich1.demon.co.uk
(My thanks to responses thus far)
------------------------------------------------------------------
1.0 User Responses
------------------------------------------------------------------
1.1 Please complete this form then e-mail it to
the author directly. Your co-operation is greatly appreciated. A
summary of results will be provided upon request providing the
desired response is adequate for analysis, thank you.
----------------------
1.2 Purpose:
The purpose of the study is to evaluate current perceptions of
reuse in object oriented systems, particularly in the CASE
environment with an emphasis on OOA/D phases of development.
----------------------
1.3 Procedures:
You are asked to complete a survey questionnaire about your
yourself and your views on OO reuse.
You are free to refuse to answer any part of the questionnaire,
although it will be helpful if you can answer as many questions
as possible.
No compensation will be provided for your participation, but a
summary of the results will be made available upon request
(see 1.1).
----------------------
1.4 Confidentiality:
You will not be personally identifiable in any reports or
publications generated by this study. Completed questionnaires
will be destroyed after a maximum of six months after the 18/05/95.
Only Jason Morphett will have access to the questionnaires.
----------------------
1.5 Directions:
This survey includes three kinds of questions. Many use answer
scales with numbered boxes. For these questions, please place an
"x" in the box. A second kind of question includes boxes next to
suggested answers. Please place an "x" in the one box that marks
what seems like the best answer, unless the question says you can
select more than one answer. The third kind of question includes
blank lines. For these, please print your answers in the
space provided.
----------------------
There are no right or wrong answers; this is not a test.
------------------------------------------------------------
2.0 Questionnaire - N.B. a "*" around a word denotes emphasis
------------------------------------------------------------
2.1 What is your current involvement in IT
[ ] Programmer
[ ] Analyst
[ ] Manager
[ ] Other [................................]
2.1.1 How long have you been involved in object oriented
development ?
[ ] less than 1 year
[ ] 1 - 2 years
[ ] 2 - 3 years
[ ] 3 - 5 years
[ ] greater than 5 years
2.2 Which object oriented analysis methods are you
familiar with (Please indicate with a "1" for
the most familiar and then an "x" for all others).
[ ] OOSA (Schlaer/Mellor, 1991)
[ ] Coad/Yourdon (1990, 1991 and 1991a)
[ ] OMT (Rumbaugh et al, 1991)
[ ] OOSE (Jacobson et al, 1992)
[ ] OSA (Embley et al, 1992)
[ ] OORASS (Reenskaug, 1989 and 1990)
[ ] Desfray (1992)
[ ] BON (Nerson, 1992)
[ ] Fusion (Coleman and Hayes, 1991 and Coleman et al, 1994)
[ ] Other(s) [................................]
2.3 Which object oriented design methods are you
familiar with (Please indicate with a "1" for
the most familiar and then an "x" for all others).
[ ] Booch (1986)
[ ] Booch (1991)
[ ] GOOD (Seidewitz and Stark, 1986)
[ ] HOOD
[ ] OOSD (Wasserman, Pircher and Muller, 1990)
[ ] JSD/OOJSD (Jackson, 1983)
[ ] OODLE (Schlaer and Mellor, 1992)
[ ] CRC (Beck and Cunningham, 1989)
[ ] Other(s) [................................]
2.4 How much do you agree with the following statements ?
2.4.1 "Corporate object reusability is a utopian ideal"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.2 "Reuse is a limited capability restricted to
specific domains, e.g. GUI development"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.3 "Concern over increasing maintenance costs is *the*
key factor in developing reusable components"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.4 "Development costs inhibits the additional effort
in designing reusable components"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.5 "Inheritance delivers extensibility at the expense of
reusability"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.6 "Complex inheritance schemes compromise reusability
due to the semantic richness of the design"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.4.7 "Formal specification of object behaviour for the
purposes of identifying reusable candidates is *only*
effective if embedded in CASE"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.5 Has reuse been a *key* consideration in your application
development to date ?
[ ] YES [ ] NO
2.6 Is there a corporate policy on reuse within your
organisation in development of new systems ?
[ ] YES [ ] NO
If YES please provide a synopsis of the policy
________________________________________________
________________________________________________
________________________________________________
________________________________________________
2.6 How much do you agree with the following statements ?
2.6.1 "Reuse for the future is *engineered* and does not
purely emerge naturally in OOA/D"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.6.2 "Reusable components consist of loosely coupled,
high level classes classified by category
(e.g. business, interface, container classes etc.)"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.6.3 "Formal specification of behaviour can provide a
more unequivocal search mechanism to identify
candidate classes for reuse as opposed to standard
keyword searches"
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.7 To what extent has reuse been achieved in your development(s) ?
N.B. Please consider the ratio:-
potential components for reuse : actual components reused
not much <--------------------------------------> a lot
[ ] 1 [ ] 2 [ ] 3 [ ] 4 [ ] 5 [ ] 6
2.8 Do you use CASE in OO development ?
[ ] YES [ ] NO
2.9 What is your criteria in searching for candidates for reuse ?
(Please indicate with a "1" for the primary selection mechanism
and "x"s thereafter)
[ ] Keyword searches
[ ] Formal methods / specifications
[ ] Domain analysis
[ ] Taxonomic approaches
[ ] Domain Knowledge
[ ] Other [................................]
----------------------------------------------------------
3.0 Conclusion
----------------------------------------------------------
This concludes the questionnaire. The time and effort you have
taken in answering the questions will help a lot in making the
study accurate and meaningful.
Sometimes it is useful to contact respondents to clarify answers
or to ask about reasons for responses or remarks. Also, some
people want a summary of findings.
If you are willing to be contacted and/or want a summary of
findings, please provide the following optional information.
(All information is strictly confidential.)
Thank you!
Name ______________________________
E-mail ______________________________
[ ] Please "x" here if you want a summary of the findings.
N.B. Results will not be returned until 18/05/95 (see 1.1)
END 01/03/95.
From: tdawson@acs.uswest.com (Tim Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 'grazer for RISC?
Date: 9 Mar 1995 20:43:52 GMT
Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3jnpa8$dgk@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
Is NewsGrazer available quad-fat yet? If not, are there any OTHER readers
out there?
--
Timothy A. Dawson Object Specialist
Integrity Solutions, Inc. (612)663-8304 office
23 Empire Drive (612)680-1879 pager
St. Paul, MN 55103 tdawson@is.com
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Idea: NXCommandKeys.app
Date: 8 Mar 1995 14:52:51 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503082051.AA02070@alleg.EDU>
This is probably a very simple idea, but I'd like to see it added to
the NeXTWorld.
What I'd like to see is an app which will look through the defaults
and pick out all the NXCommandKeys entries (dread -l | grep
NXCommandKeys)
Then it would show them in a format something like this:
------------------------------------------------------
______________________________________________________
AppName | Command | Command Key |
------------------------------------------------------
Edit | Save To... | T
| Reformat Text | Q
------------------------------------------------------
Mail | Forward | F
| Addresses | d
| Sort by Number | #
------------------------------------------------------
etc etc....
There could also be an entry to add a new command, a way to change
command keys, add command keys for a new app.
It wouldn't have to be very complex. All it would do is
- read the app name
- add "NXCommandKeys"
- add an opening "
- read the command
- add a comma
- read the commandkey
- repeat
- add a closing "
and send it all to a dwrite.
For someone who knew what they were doing it would probably be very
simple. It would be very nice for the rest of us to have a Front-end
to this dwrite.
Note: there are reasons to give the same commandkey for more than one
command, so any app created for this would have to allow that option.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Engineering Drawing Apps -- any suggestions ?
Date: 10 Mar 1995 22:04:40 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Message-ID: <3jqido$o9a@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
Hello.
I am looking for a program that can do Engineering Drawings.
Looking at back-issues of NeXTWORLD, I saw an advertisement
(from Dec. '93) for a CAD program called ACADEMY. Has anyone
used it? Any comments? Are there any other programs that you
can recommend? BTW, this is for black hardware.
Thanks in advance.
Milind
mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw (JesseH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: complaint
Date: 11 Mar 1995 13:56:36 GMT
Organization: Div.Cardiology, National Defense Medical Center
Message-ID: <3jsa6k$k39@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Dear Next Users,
Recently I upgrade from NextStep/intel 3.2 to 3.3. I find something
that Next has never done well.
1. The Sun has issued the Solaris 2.2/intel at a fairly low price in
Taiwan. TCP/IP and PPP were included as standard rather than optional.
I think the NeXT supposed that every owners of NeXTStep run their
computers on a LAN, whcih in turn connect to the WAN directly.
Actually, few do so. Therefore I think the PPP and SLIP should be
included in the next upgrade.
2.In previous version, some of the common non-PS printer were included.
I think some of them should be included in new version.
Simon Chih-L Han MB
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Div. of Cardiovascular Medicine
National Defense Medical Center
What will be the
future?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????The future is
now....................................
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Graphical IRC client for NS3.2?
Date: 9 Mar 1995 17:05:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503092303.AA14394@alleg.EDU>
I've seen postings to this group about IRC II (2.2.9)
but I can't find it using archie or by grazing the
German or USA ftp sites. I also can't find CryptorBundle-1.2.
Could someone e-mail a quick note to me telling me
where these are? Thanks,
ftp site: 129.187.249.15
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/CryptorBundle.1.2.NIH.b.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/CryptorBundle.1.2.README
don't know anything about a graphical IRC....
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ben@syd.au.swissbank.com (Ben "Donatello" Kelley)
Subject: co-eXist - Does it support NAS audio?
Message-ID: <1995Mar10.015726.6926@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: co-eXist NAS audio
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: SBC Australia
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 01:57:26 GMT
Hi all.
I am in the process of evauating using NAS (Network Audio Server by NCD)
in our applications. We mainly have Sun workstations, so NAS support is
no problem there, but we also have users on black NeXTs using co-eXist
to access our system.
Can anyone tell me if there is a version of co-eXist that supports NAS
playback? Or perhaps any other way to do this on NeXT?
The option in (system) preferences to enable "Public audio server",
what does this do? Could I use that somehow?
Any tips would be appreciated.
- Ben Kelley
--
::/ Another e-correspondence from Ben Kelley, Swiss Bank Corporation.
:/ +61 (0)2 258 2382 - Phone Mail
/ +61 (0)2 258 2400 - Fax Mail
ben@syd.au.swissbank.com - e-mail, MIME mail, NeXT mail, Braille mail, /
Morse code mail and Klingon mail. Oh, did I /:
o|<>=o.. <= what? say "Klingon"? Sorry, that was a joke. /::
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: c++ include file /usr/lib/g++/iomanip.h broken?
Date: 11 Mar 1995 16:32:05 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Mar11163205@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3jr92a$jfg@mark.ucdavis.edu>
To: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
In-reply-to: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu's message of 11 Mar 1995 04:31:06 GMT
<dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu> writes:
>Anyone got a c++ source file to compile with
>#include <iomanip.h> as a source line.
>The compiler quits in this file.
>I do not see the errors stated by the compiler.
>Thanks,
>David
Well iostream manipluators are implemented in gcc using templates and
NeXT's GNU GCC compiler in 3.2 does not support templates.
--
"Mary had a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: dimitri@duti609a.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Subject: Companies using SoftPC, please react!
Sender: news@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (TWI News Administration)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:53:44 GMT
Message-ID: <D5AF1K.A90@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
This is a question for all people using SoftPC with NEXTSTEP
_professionaly_, on a daily basis. If you use popular DOS or Windows
applications, such as WordPerfect 5.1 or Word 6.0 under SoftPC with
NEXTSTEP, please drop me a note describing your experiences with it.
For your convenience, you can give one of the following answers:
A. WordPerfect (Word) is as usable as native, no problems at all.
B. WordPerfect (Word) is usable, but performance is bad.
C. WordPerfect (Word) is usable, but sometimes strange behaviour
occurs.
D. WordPerfect (Word) is barely usable/unusable under SoftPC.
Thanks very much. I'll post a summary of the responses.
Dimitri
--
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Dimitri Tischenko | D.B.Tischenko@TWI.TUDelft.NL | NeXTmail preferred! |
+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
| Delft University of Technology | NeGeN |
| Fac Applied Math & Computer Science| NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland |
| Dep of Statistics, Probabilitistics| NiNe |
| and Operations Research | NEXTSTEP In the Netherlands |
+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: c++ include file /usr/lib/g++/iomanip.h broken?
Date: 11 Mar 1995 19:43:12 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Mar11194312@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3jr92a$jfg@mark.ucdavis.edu> <ROBERT.95Mar11163205@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
<robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk> writes:
><dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu> writes:
>>Anyone got a c++ source file to compile with
>>#include <iomanip.h> as a source line.
>>The compiler quits in this file.
>>I do not see the errors stated by the compiler.
>>Thanks,
>>David
>Well iostream manipluators are implemented in gcc using templates and
^ should be libg++
>NeXT's GNU GCC compiler in 3.2 does not support templates.
--
"Mary had a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu (Y. MOK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Daydream and MS Word
Date: 10 Mar 1995 02:22:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jod4p$5od@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <MATT.95Mar8220013@scooter.NeXT.COM>
In article <MATT.95Mar8220013@scooter.NeXT.COM>, matt@NeXT.COM (Matt Morse) writes:
|> By any chance, has anyone successfully run Microsoft Word using a
|> Daydream (Mac emulator) box on a NeXTstation Color Turbo?
|>
|> My father has such a combination and installed Microsoft Office (which
|> includes Word, Excel, and some other apps). None of these apps run under
|> Daydream, although many other Mac apps run. We get helpful hints like
|> "Bad F line instruction".
|>
|> Suggestions welcome--he's taking a course in Word and doesn't want to buy
|> a Mac!
|>
Which versions of the MacOS and Word is he using ?
Y. Mok
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DISCLAIMER: I don't even speak for myself, what makes you think
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ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu
Department of Physics
University of California, Irvine
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: c++ include file /usr/lib/g++/iomanip.h broken?
Date: 12 Mar 1995 00:15:58 GMT
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jtefu$9nq@mark.ucdavis.edu>
References: <3jr92a$jfg@mark.ucdavis.edu> <ROBERT.95Mar11163205@audrey.dircon.co.uk> <ROBERT.95Mar11194312@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
I am a bit confused since I have constructed class
templates and the source compiles and runs.
Please explain why a template in an include (.h) file
should differ in any way during compilation than
a template declared in user's source.
David
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Auto-Redial in Kermit
Date: 11 Mar 1995 23:35:59 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3jtc4v$2us@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <MAGNAN.95Mar10130522@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <MAGNAN.95Mar10130522@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes:
}~
}~ I am looking for a script in kermit that would redial the last number
}~ composed if the line was busy. I tried the following:
}~
}~ define mydial dial \%1, while fail { redial, sleep 3 }
}~
}~ but it didn't work. I am running kermit5a188 and my modem is a
}~ SupraFax.
ATDL works on the SupraFAXmodem v.32bis 14400
IF that doesn't solve things, mail me, I'm using 5a190
and have some init strings with redial that *do* work, but
too voluminous to post here.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
Homepage under construction
<URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/index.html>
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: *** SOUND app for NeXT,Intel,HP,Sun ***
Message-ID: <1995Mar10.085807.35420@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 10 Mar 95 08:58:06 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
4-Fat demos, January 30, 1995
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
For more information please contact
===================================
Digital Recordings - Advanced R & D
5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H-1Y5, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
DFG and DFG_RT software is now available for 4 architectures :
==============================================================
NeXT, Intel, HP and Sun
=======================
4-Fat demo software is available now via ftp or directly from
Digital Recordings via NeXTmail.
DFG - Introduction
==================
DFG_RTdemo.app is a demo module for real-time synthesis of the
sinusoidal (pure tone) signal.Signals are generated in real time
and do not require the DSP processor (which is not available in
some NeXTSTEP computers).This version should work on all Motorola
Intel, Sun and HP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* and
equipped with D/A converters.
This program works very nicely with Digital Oscilloscope and
Spectrum Analyzer (both applications come with NeXT) and any
recording / editing software. Playback and recording/analysis
of the signal could be done simultaneously since DSP chip is not
used and main processor is used only 2-3% during signal production.
DFG_RT is an ideal signal source for research and teaching in the
fields of acoustics, psychoacoustics, electronics, electroacoustics,
physics, mechanics, vibration measurements, architecture, audiology
and transducer testing.
DFG Software Specifications / Parameters
=========================================
o Stereo output (independent R and L channel)
o Frequency adjustable continuously from 0 to 22,000 Hz.
o Frequency stability : +/- 0.0001 Hz at 1000 Hz
o Amplitude adjustable continuously from -140 to 0 dB
o Amplitude stability : +/- 0.00026 dB at 0 dB
o Phase adjustable continuously from 0 to 360 degrees.
o S/N ratio = 95 dB
DFG_RT Modules
===============
Currently there are 8 modules available in DFG_RT software :
DFG_RTsine.app - for generating pure tones (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsquare.app - for generating square wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTtriangular.app - for generating triangular wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsawtooth.app - for generating sawtooth wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTpulse.app - for generating delta-pulse train (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTnoise.app - for generating white noise in 0->22,050 Hz
range.
DFG_RTnoiseNB.app - for generating narrow band noise from
100->200 Hz to 11,000->22,000 range.
DFG_RTnoiseNBv.app - for generating narrow band noise with
bandwidth adjustable from 20 Hz to 2,000 Hz
and center frequency adjustable from 1 Hz
to 22,000 Hz.
DFGdemo.app and DFG_RTdemo.app are available on the following FTP sites
========================================================================
( please look for the files DFGdemo.app.tar.Z and DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z )
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl/pub2/next/submissions
==> Note 1: Also, you can obtain latest software via NeXTmail
*********** directly from: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
==> Note 2: We are looking forward to feedback, specially from
*********** users of NeXTSTEP on Sun and HP platforms on which
DFG software was not tested yet. Thanks in advance
for your help !
From: Ted Okada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for GIS software
Date: 12 Mar 1995 04:27:20 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470
Message-ID: <3jtt78$ntp@news.cais.com>
Greetings!
I'm looking for GIS software for NS, any out there? Any versions
of GRASS compiled? Other resources, user groups?
Thanks in advance!
Ted Okada
Food For The Hungry Int'l
http://www.fh.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
Subject: Omniweb and images -> just a bit more help
Message-ID: <1995Mar10.181022.3904@bme.ri.ccf.org>
Sender: usenet@bme.ri.ccf.org
Organization: Biomedical Engineering, Cleveland Clinic Foundation
References: <1995Mar7.175054.21935@bme.ri.ccf.org>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 18:10:22 GMT
Thank you to all who answered my original question regarding displaying images
in OmniWeb. You have been very helpfull.
My next question involves animations. There are some interesting animations
that I've tried to pull off some Computational Fluid Dynamics sites. These
animations are done using MPEG. I looked for an MPEG player on the archives
and found MPEGPlayer. The README to this application states that "B&W support
has been temporarily disabled", and I therefore did not bother downloading it.
Is there a movie players that will work with my B&W machine and with OmniWeb,
that I can get somewhere?
Thanks you. Please reply through e-mail.
--
Ivan Vesely, Ph.D.
Associate Scientist
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Cleveland Clinic Foundation
vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
From: ibhan@fas.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 02:17:40 -0500
Organization: Harvard University
Message-ID: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu>
Where can I get the academic version of NeXTSTEP? Does it come with both
user and developer 3.3?
--
Ishir Bhan
ibhan@fas.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.org/ibhan/
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"There's always a party on the Net"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: Re: Engineering Drawing Apps -- any suggestions ?
Message-ID: <1995Mar11.134234.17650@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
References: <3jqido$o9a@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 13:42:34 GMT
In article <3jqido$o9a@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
writes:
> Hello.
>
> I am looking for a program that can do Engineering Drawings.
>
> Looking at back-issues of NeXTWORLD, I saw an advertisement
> (from Dec. '93) for a CAD program called ACADEMY. Has anyone
> used it? Any comments? Are there any other programs that you
> can recommend? BTW, this is for black hardware.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Milind
> mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
the two best are Academy (german) and Jessycad (French)
Academy is a good CAD program for drafts and blue prints
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume
Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: Where is OmniFilter* file
Message-ID: <D56oCz.139@pages.com>
Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
References: <3jjsse$6n1@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 17:24:34 GMT
In article <3jjsse$6n1@gap.cco.caltech.edu> changliu@cco.caltech.edu
(Chang Liu) writes:
> I tried to get into ftp.cs.orst.edu/software
> /binaries/wide-area-info accoring to the
> Readme note left at the Omniweb.com site, but
> I could not find the file omnifilter*.app.tar.Z.
> All the rest of the files (like main application
> files) were there, only the graphic filter is missing.
>
> Can anyone tell me where I can get that file now?
>
Check out the "See what changes have been made" section of the Pages home
page (http://www.pages.com/) for pointers as to where to get the latest
and greatest version of OmniImageFilter.service (which includes new fixes
for handling transparent GIFs). ..bruce..
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Bruce F. Webster | To be nameless in worthy deeds exceeds
CTO, Pages Software Inc | an infamous history.
bwebster@pages.com | -- Sir Thomas Browne
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: NeXTStep Self-Consciously Marginalized
Message-ID: <D57E7E.1MM@pages.com>
Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
References: <3jkoko$72b@cedar.mr.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 02:42:49 GMT
In article <3jkoko$72b@cedar.mr.net> mikeb@velocity.com (Michael Barry)
writes:
> In article
> <Pine.SUN.3.91.950302003930.13644A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu>
> Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> writes:
>
> > WWW server software with everything necessary to publish pages
>
> Just email Greg at pages.com and the folks there will be happy
> to get you up and running. They have for us and the product is
> teriffic!
>
To avoid a sudden deluge of e-mail requesting the NCSA server compiled for
NEXTSTEP (black/white), we've submitted it to cs.orst.edu. :-) Look for a
posting in c.s.n.announce; there are also pointers in the "what's new"
section of our web pages (http://www.pages.com/).
As for the web authoring tool...well, look at the rest of our home pages.
:-) ..bruce..
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Bruce F. Webster | The problem [with the Information Superhighway]
Chief Technical Officer | was that even though the information was coming
Pages Software Inc | in a lot faster, the vast majority of it, having
bwebster@pages.com | originated with human beings, was still wrong.
http://www.pages.com/ | -- Dave Barry, "The 90's", Newsweek
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From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Engineering Drawing Apps -- any suggestions ?
Message-ID: <D5ACyH.wJ@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <3jqido$o9a@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 1995 17:08:41 GMT
In article <3jqido$o9a@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
writes:
> Looking at back-issues of NeXTWORLD, I saw an advertisement
> (from Dec. '93) for a CAD program called ACADEMY. Has anyone
> used it? Any comments? Are there any other programs that you
> can recommend? BTW, this is for black hardware.
You can find a demo of ACADEMY on ftp.uni-stuttgart.de in
pub/systems/next/Demos.
Michael
--
*** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen
*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-543915
*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
*** Michael_Pieper@AC.maus.de (only < 16kB, please)
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: c++ include file /usr/lib/g++/iomanip.h broken?
Date: 12 Mar 1995 11:19:08 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.95Mar12111908@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3jr92a$jfg@mark.ucdavis.edu> <ROBERT.95Mar11163205@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
<ROBERT.95Mar11194312@audrey.dircon.co.uk> <3jtefu$9nq@mark.ucdavis.edu>
To: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
In-reply-to: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu's message of 12 Mar 1995 00:15:58 GMT
<dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu> writes:
>I am a bit confused since I have constructed class
>templates and the source compiles and runs.
>Please explain why a template in an include (.h) file
>should differ in any way during compilation than
>a template declared in user's source.
>David
Well my memory from 3.2 is that NeXT specifically removed (compiled out) the
iomanipulator support from their libg++ that they ship as unsupported
software. This is because NeXT's compiler doesn't support templates.
Look for..
#ifndef _G_NO_TEMPLATES
If you have a newer version of GCC and have built your own libg++ then
templates and consequently iomanipulators are fully supported.
--
"Mary had a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 95 17:04:07 -0800
From: Peter Langston <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Message-ID: <9503100104.AA11550@pud>
Subject: Re: Looking for Tailor UUCP
A week ago, in <9503032015.AA01227@pud> I asked:
> 1) Are other people using Taylor UUCP on NeXT and if so, has it been
> an improvement?
>
> 2) Where can I find a copy of Taylor UUCP set up for NeXT?
Many people replied "yes and yes" for question (1).
Tom Hageman <tom@icgned.nl> replied, for question (2):
The latest version of the NeGeN Taylor-UUCP (and CNews) packages will
be uploaded to the "official" NeXT sites shortly.
Thanks to all.
---------- Peter Langston -- psl@acm.org -- Seattle, WA ----------
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Arrays in zsh -- problem with quoted strings
Date: 12 Mar 1995 23:21:55 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3jvvmj$llm@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
In writing a new compctl command (for dread/dwrite/dremove, accessing the
NeXT defaults database) I have realized that my understanding of arrays
in the zsh is flawed. Running zsh 2.5.03 under NEXTSTEP 3.2...anyway,
here is the problem:
10% array=( foo "bar baz" )
11% echo $array
foo bar baz
12% echo $array[2]
bar baz
13% alias input_function='echo foo \"bar baz\"'
14% input_function
foo "bar baz"
15% array=( $(input_function) )
16% echo $array[2]
"bar
17% array=( `input_function` )
18% echo $array[2]
"bar
19% array=( "$(input_function)" )
20% echo $array[1]
foo "bar baz"
Assume I have some shell function, script or program called input_function
that produces the string [foo "bar baz"] as output (without the brackets).
In the above example, input_function is just an echo, but in my real case
it's something complicated. Now, what I want is to assign to $array the
two strings [foo] and [bar baz], so that $array[2]="bar baz". As you
can see, just running input_function, either in a $() or in backticks,
treats the quotes as literals and gives me a three-element array, while
protecting the whole thing with quotes gives me a one-element array. How
can I get the two-element array I want?
I've even considered writing a horrible kluge of a solution that runs
$(input_function | awk '{print ...}') N times, with an awk string that
pulls out the Nth argument. But this is not really practical, since in
my real problem N > 200, instead of just 2. There has to be an easier way.
Nothing is so useless as |====================================================
a general maxim. | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
-- Macaulay |====================================================
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: PCMCIA under NEXTSTEP
Date: 9 Mar 1995 01:45:11 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3jlmj7$720@news.blkbox.com>
References: <3iig28$bqg@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
In article <3iig28$bqg@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
untereck@iphcip1.physik.uni-mainz.de (Oliver Unter Ecker) writes:
> Just got a Megahertz PCMCIA modem for my NEC
> Versa 'E'. Works great under Windows, but doesn't
> work at all for me under NEXTSTEP. Of course, I
> configured both PCMCIA bus and PCMCIA Intel 82365
> drivers. I don't see any other PCMCIA drivers
> beside the Cogent Ethernet driver so it's not all
> to surprising that nothing works. However, someone
> on this newsgroup claimed it would work, so I
> still have a little hope someone knows how to make
> it work. Anyone?
>
If you attended the LastEXPO you'll remember the hoopla, demos and
promises from Steve Jobs in his keynote address regarding the wonderful
support we'd all see for laptops in 3.3. There was even a special
interest group for laptops where we all got stroked again about the
support we'd see for a wide range of PCMCIA cards and video chipsets.
Alas, everyone who was making these promises, with the exception of Steve
Jobs, has quit the company and have not yet been replaced.
As I understand it, NeXT is not currently working on _any_ other laptop
drivers. But it gets worse....
> Also, does anyone know if there's something in
> the making from 3rd parties for PCMCIA? I would
> really need PCMCIA SCSI, modem, and sound
> support, but there seems to be nothing planned for
> the near future at NeXT. At least their
> ftp.next.com FUTURE folder doesn't show anything.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Oliver oliver@iphcip1.physik.uni-mainz.de
>
As many of you probably know, we went out and wrote our own drivers for
laptops in 3.2. This meant writing our own PCMCIA support, along with
video, sound and SCSI (and some others that were under development). The
particular PCMCIA controller that we supported was the DataBook chipset
(not the Intel which NeXT chose to support in 3.3).
Much to our chagrin, we found that NeXT did not publish their API for
PCMCIA in 3.3 and they don't intend to! When I asked Eric Chu (NeXT)
"why?", I was told that they didn't want people writing 3.3 drivers that
would likely break in 4.0. Perhaps this will make sense to some, but as
we all know, each new rev.of NS has broken a sizable number of
drivers...why should 4.0 be any different? Does this mean that third
parties should not be allowed to write 3.3 drivers?
What this means is that we will be unable to support our PCMCIA drivers
for 3.3. This is inexcusable. When I contacted NeXT, I was told that we
would have to "make a business case" in order for them to provide us with
the API (despite the fact that every other OS company does this as
standard operating proceedure). I was told that they would consider
giving us the API _only_ if they got enough angry letters from their
"important" customers stating that they wouldn't buy anymore copies of NS
if they didn't give us the API. (They refused to tell me exactly how many
angry letters it would take.)
This is typical of the reactive way NeXT conducts their business and also
typical of the way they support developers who are providing products that
support increased sales of NS. So to answer your question, they refuse to
do the drivers that they promised for 3.3 and they refuse to provide
developers with the tools to allow third parties do them.
If this bothers you, send your "angry" letters (whether you consider
yourself an "important" customer or not :-) to:
Eric_Chu@next.com AND to: Martin_Yam@next.com
Steve Sarich
From: fbeer@ud.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb and images -> help
Date: 13 Mar 1995 01:06:54 GMT
Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate
Message-ID: <3k05re$4dq@pong.ping.at>
References: <1995Mar7.175054.21935@bme.ri.ccf.org>
Originator: felix@pumpkin
In article <1995Mar7.175054.21935@bme.ri.ccf.org> vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
writes:
[munch]
> click on them, my Gif viewer starts up but gives an error that this is
> not a GIF file. I am using ViewGif2 ver. 1.0. Is this the way this
[munch]
ViewGif2/1.0 only recognizes GIF87a and is unable to deal with GIF89a -
Format. You should check out OmniImage, or any other GIF-Viewer capable of
dealing with GIF89a.
--
fbeer@ping.at
fb@aquaconsult.co.at
--
--
fbeer@ping.at
fb@aquaconsult.co.at
From: luke004@ibm.net (Luke Tymowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Big software companies coming back to NeXT?
Date: 13 Mar 1995 01:53:35 GMT
Message-ID: <3k08iv$1hvq@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
References: <edewD4zyJD.Mzs@netcom.com>
In message <edewD4zyJD.Mzs@netcom.com> - edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) writes:
>Specifically, I'm thinking of Lotus with somthing
>for Improv (like an eddress for tech_support, at least), Adobe for another
>Illustrator, any others? Personally, I would just be happy if someone
Eric,
Methinks Lotus isn't coming back. I bought Improv for Windows. They did a .1
upgrade and told me I had to buy the entire package again to get the upgrade.
Then they sent me a postcard telling me they were giving up on Improv and
that I should buy 1-2-3.
Mesa and Lighthouse have never abandoned NeXTStep. They make better software
than the really big houses do. Rather they get my money.
Luke
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X-windows on the NeXT machine
Date: 13 Mar 1995 00:03:47 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3k0253$ep5@danmeasure.dannug.dk>
References: <1995Mar8.190934.39096@msuvx2.memphis.edu>
In article <1995Mar8.190934.39096@msuvx2.memphis.edu> writes:
> Hi,
> Is it possible to run X-windows on the NeXT Turbo Color
> workstation. If not why ?
>
> ThanQ
Cub-X runs nicely, they are located in France, I have their emailnb. at
work, so if you are unable to trace it send me an email at sw@dannug.dk
and i shall loopk it up for you.
Soren sw@dannug.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Re: MiniSQL problems
Message-ID: <D5D18C.3u0@trapac.com>
Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation
References: <3jjj3n$eum@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3jo9kmINNf7b@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> <3jo9p9INNfrg@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 03:48:12 GMT
In article <3jo9p9INNfrg@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Steven Kenneth Besler) writes:
>
>Hmm. Perhaps 3.0 cannot load MAB bundles. I'm pretty sure it can run
>MAB apps, though.
>
I had thought that I had followed up on this previously, but perhaps not.
3.0 cannot load MAB bundles. It can run MAB apps. You can use
lipo or plipo to extract the bundles down to single architecture,
and take it from there.
--
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
[My opinions are my own]
From: mccollam@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Donald E McCollam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS3.3 Developer/.edu order?
Date: 13 Mar 1995 05:21:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <3k0ko7$16dq@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
Hi. I tried to order NS3.3 Developer/.edu (the $99 upgrade) a couple of weeks
ago. At that time no mechanism had actually been established by NeXT to
take orders. Has that changed yet? (I've been out-of-town/out-of-touch.)
Don
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: len@znet.com (Len MacDonell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS POP Client
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 18:54:45 -0800
Organization: zNET
Message-ID: <len-1203951854450001@mac.znet.com>
Hi,
Anyone tell me of a POP Mail client for NS? Black or Fat..
--
Len MacDonell
___________________________________________________________________
T1-SUNs-28.8-ppp-flat rate-WWW-custom domain-POP Mail
info@zNET.com http://www.znet.com ftp://ftp.znet.com/
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 13 Mar 1995 05:15:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3k0kcs$fus@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
*** NEED INFORMATION ***
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
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Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
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The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
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To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
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You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
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Written by:
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From: alistair@bcu.ubc.ca (Alistair Blachford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: bought Appsoft Draw 1.0, need 1.02 !
Date: 13 Mar 1995 18:28:43 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3k22sr$1im@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
OK, I've been bitten by the bugs in Appsoft Draw 1.0 once too often. I saw
someone mention a while ago that version 1.02 was less buggy.
How can I get v1.02 now that Appsoft is no more? Is there a copy somewhere on
the net that I could grab and activate with my current license #?
All suggestions welcome. Thanks!
Alistair Blachford
Biologist/Manager | Biosciences Computing Unit, Zoology
Email: alistair@bcu.ubc.ca | University of British Columbia
Phone: 604-822-2645 | 6270 University Boulevard
Fax: 604-822-2416 | Vancouver, Canada, V6T 1Z4
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar)
Subject: [Documentation Generator]
Message-ID: <D5Dztw.CIH@lehman.com>
Keywords: documentation, comments
Sender: news@lehman.com (News)
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 16:15:31 GMT
Hi,
I am looking for a documentation generator. I am taking a look at CM
yet, it doesn't seem to be able to integrate comments that might be
in the code (comment block right before the actual function).
Does anyone know about a tool shareware or commercial that does that.
Regards,
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From: shunfemd@rest.tasc.com (Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where Alexandra is
Date: 13 Mar 1995 14:37:39 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <3k1lbj$s8d@viper.is.rest.tasc.com>
References: <3jqrvf$mpv@dcsun4.us.oracle.com>
I've downloaded V0.7 of this app, but the readme.rtf file says:
You need the MiscKit lib (1.2.8 or higher) to compile this puppy.
Anyone know where to get this? I am NOT a Nextstep developer, just the
proverbial 'newuser.'
--
-- This message made entirely from recycled electrons
Michael Shunfenthal |
mdshunfenthal@tasc.com | The Analytic Sciences Corporation
shunfemd@rest.tasc.com | Reston, VA 22090
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Arrays in zsh -- problem solved!
Date: 13 Mar 1995 14:21:25 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3k1kd5$ain@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
Yesterday, I wrote:
> In writing a new compctl command (for dread/dwrite/dremove, accessing the
> NeXT defaults database) I have realized that my understanding of arrays
> in the zsh is flawed.
I finally figured it out for myself. The problem was a program that
output a quote-delimited string, which I needed to turn into an array.
One way to do this is by defining the array twice:
array=( array= (`mycommand`) )
eval $array
The first time, the array becomes (array=(foo "bar baz")), with the
quoted string in place. In this array, quotes have no meaning, and
the three elements are [array=(foo], ["bar], and [baz"] (without the
brackets, of course. After the eval, the array is (foo bar baz), and
the two elements are [foo] and [bar baz], as desired.
Anyway, for anyone who wants it, here is a rather nifty compctl command
for accessing the NeXT defaults database with the zsh. I dare any
tcsh gurus to match this with 'complete'.
# defines $defapps as all apps that own defaults, when first called
#
alldefapps() {if [[$defapps = ""]]
then defapps=( `dread -l | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq` );
fi; reply=$defapps}
# defines $defaults as all defaults in the world, when first called
#
alldefaults() {if [[$defaults = ""]]
then defaults=( defaults=( `dread -l |
sed '/^[^"]*"[^"]*$/d; /\!/d; s/^[^ ]* //;
s/^\("[^"]*"\).*/\1/; s/^\([^" ]*\) .*/\1/' |
sort | uniq` ));
eval $defaults; fi; reply=$defaults}
# returns all the defaults for one app, each time it's called
#
somedefaults() { local a defs; read -cA a;
if [[ $a[2] = -g ]] { a[2]=GLOBAL };
defs=( defs=( `dread -o $a[2] |
sed '/^[^"]*"[^"]*$/d; /\!/d; s/^[^ ]* //;
s/^\("[^"]*"\).*/\1/; s/^\([^" ]*\) .*/\1/' |
sort | uniq` ));
eval $defs; reply=$defs}
# complete on apps in first field, or after -o; complete on all defaults
# in first field, or after -n; else complete on first field's defaults
#
compctl -K somedefaults -P '"' -S '"' -x 'p[1],c[-1,-o]' -K alldefapps - \
'p[1],c[-1,-n]' -K alldefaults -P '"' -S '"' -- dread dwrite dremove
Meddle not in the affairs of wizards, +--------------------------------------+
for they are clever, and you would | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 |
make a great doorknob.... | burton@het.brown.edu |
-- `Bored of the Rings' +--------------------------------------+
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Frame 5 and NS
Date: 13 Mar 1995 16:55:10 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3k1tde$35k3@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
The word is that Frame 5 will be announced at the end of this month. I have
heard that Frame 5 will be supported for NS (and I hope for OS). Does anybody
know for sure?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Hidden treasures in 3.3
References: <1995Feb27.110751.2998@proximus.north.de> <3jj50o$73u@news.next.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 08:44:50 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar13.084450.11964@proximus.north.de>
In article <3jj50o$73u@news.next.com>, <Lennart_Lovstrand@NeXT.COM> wrote:
>In article <1995Feb27.110751.2998@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de
>(Gerhard Moeller) writes:
[...zsh...]
>> Me. But it is a rather old version. ;-)
>
>Uhm, NEXTSTEP 3.3 includes zsh 2.5.02, which dates back to about July 29 or so
>of last year. NEXTSTEP 3.3 itself went to the presses about four months
>later, which includes time for beta testing, etc. And you call that "a rather
>old version"?
>
>Geez, some people are never satisfied.
My posting was not too serious. (That's why I included the smiley.)
Now seriously: I think it is a GREAT idea to include some UNIXish tools like
zsh, pico (which is, in fact, a much later version as I had before (I used
to use version 1.7), even Umlauts are possible!)) and some other. I even wish
you could include cvs (!), jove, elvis (or vim), perl and some other as
well. But what is MISSING is an announcement for those new tools.
NeXT really should include a short description of new tools. (it took me, for
example, a week or so to find out that /usr/gnu is necessary for
FileMerge.app - I just deleted /usr/gnu, as I already had all tools installed
in /usr/local...;-} ) Also I wonder, btw, why NeXT didn't mention the
dwrites for Mail.app (and possibly other apps) in the booklet with the tips.
Gerhard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard)
Subject: Re: [Documentation Generator]
Message-ID: <1995Mar13.221041.434@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <D5Dztw.CIH@lehman.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:10:41 GMT
jean safar writes
> I am looking for a documentation generator. I am taking a look at CM
> yet, it doesn't seem to be able to integrate comments that might be
> in the code (comment block right before the actual function).
>
> Does anyone know about a tool shareware or commercial that does that.
About a year and a half ago there was a new app called
ManPagesFromHeaders. It did a nice job of scanning the header files in
your app and generating RTF pages in the style of the NeXT online docs.
You still need to go back and flesh out the skeleton with verbiage, of
course. I'm not sure this is the kind of app you're looking for, but if
it is see if it's still available on ftp.cs.orst.edu somewhere.
Denise
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From: Wesley C. Smith <wes@take3.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 'grazer for RISC?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 22:26:18 GMT
Organization: Traverse Communication Company
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <950313172618.2743AAABF.wes@sherlock.take3.com>
References: <3jnpa8$dgk@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>Is NewsGrazer available quad-fat yet? If not, are there any OTHER readers
>out there?
Eloquent is available for Next/Intel/HP/SUN. For more info send e-mail to
eloquent_info@take3.com
Wesley C. Smith
wes@take3.com NeXT, MIME, ASCII, SUN, Microsoft
Take 3 (616) 228-6556 phone
P.O. Box 40 (616) 929-3336 fax
Cedar, MI 49621-0040
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: elm for remote mail access
Date: 13 Mar 1995 22:23:54 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3k2glq$fhj@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
I have several problems trying to use elm to read/send mail from home on a
modem login thru a terminal server.
(a) I'd like to use the builtin editor from home but Edit when logged in at
the console. I need to find a way to distinguish a remote login from a
console login in my .tcshrc file so I can set the EDITOR environmental
variable properly.
(b) I've seen earlier postings about the possibility of elm coexisting with
Mail.app mail folders, but no one has included instructions on how to link
them properly or what options have to be set in elmrc. As it stands now, elm
just tells me I have 0 messages in /usr/spool/mail/friendly.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University Voice: 416 736 5118
4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Doug Moore
Subject: wp2tex filter?
Message-ID: <D5EIrn.B5G@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 23:04:09 GMT
Does such a beast exist?
--
Douglas Moore
Integrity Solutions
St Paul, MN
(h)612-227-3274 (w)612-223-8474
(h) dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail, MIME ready
(w) dmoore@is.com <---NeXTMail, MIME ready
From: tjallen@localhost (Theodore J. Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: wp2tex filter?
Date: 14 Mar 1995 03:02:12 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <3k30vk$5d@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <D5EIrn.B5G@news.cis.umn.edu>
Doug Moore wrote:
>Does such a beast exist?
>--
>Douglas Moore
>Integrity Solutions
>St Paul, MN
>(h)612-227-3274 (w)612-223-8474
>(h) dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail, MIME ready
>(w) dmoore@is.com <---NeXTMail, MIME ready
Check out ftp://pip.shsu.edu/tex-archive/support/wp2latex/glenn/
or /tex-archive/support/wp2latex-5_1/, which seems to be older.
While I've not used either one, they probably work pretty well
on straight text.
Ted Allen
High Energy Physics
University of Wisconsin-Madison
tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
From: faizel@mail.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MiniSQL problems
Date: 14 Mar 1995 01:20:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k2r16$q61@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3jo9p9INNfrg@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
In article <3jo9p9INNfrg@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Steven
Kenneth Besler) writes:
> In article <3jjj3n$eum@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
> Faizel Dakri <faizel@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>
> It didn't auto-recognize. Also, during the compile, it couldn't find
> unistd.h, so I uncommented that line in the source, and it built after that.
> I used NeXTSTEP-3.0-m68k as the target string. What did you use? Does it
> matter, or is that just what it names the target directory?
>
Yeah, it won't auto-recognize because NEXTSTEP doesn't have a uname command (as
far as I know). I used a similar target string: NEXTSTEP-3.2-intel. As far as
I can tell, this has no effect on the compile, it just names the target
directory.
>>The DBKit adaptor is a different story. I haven't been able to get it to work
>>with MiniSQL 1.0.5, and I know of a few other folks who've had the same
>>problem. I've been using MiniSQL version 0.2 (thanks to Scott Davenport for
>>his help), which the adaptor seems to be able to connect to.
>
> Should I downgrade?
I know that downgrading helped me out. I'm able to connect to the database now
and I can do transactions (well, I've only tried it in IB so far). Unless
you've got EOF, it seems as though downgrading to an earlier version of mSQL is
the only way to go.
> Hmm. Perhaps 3.0 cannot load MAB bundles. I'm pretty sure it can run
> MAB apps, though.
Yeah, I think someone mentioned that in an earlier post. The proposed remedy
was to use lipo or plipo on the adaptor.
Later,
--Faizel
--
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faizel@mail.utexas.edu (NeXTmail *friendly*)
From: gwicker@lesol1.lesol1 (Gary K. Wicker,(214)-462-4291,le)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIDI/digital audio capabilities of NEXT hardware?
Date: 13 Mar 1995 19:31:25 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k26id$5jp@mksrv1.dseg.ti.com>
I operate a small recording studio, and am looking to upgrade my 1987
vintage amiga 1000 with a new machine for MIDI sequencing and digital
audio recording. The primary machines for these applications are mac-
intoshes, and after weeks of learning about the macintosh system, it seems
buggy and kludgish. Having been a UNIX programmer for quite a while,
I am fully prepared to write my own applications, and would prefer to do
so in UNIX (or something like it).
First off, do any combination MIDI sequencing/digital audio sequencing
packages exist for the NEXT? Failing that, do any MIDI device drivers
exist for the NEXT machines, and if so, which MIDI interfaces would they
support (I suspect any such interfaces would be made for the
macintosh). If no such products exist, what's the highest programmable
(and hopefully reliable) baud rate for these machines (MIDI needs at
least 31.25kbps).
In addition, do all of the NEXT machines include a motorola 5600x chip?
If so, I'm interested to know the following:
1) Is it the 56000 or the 56001?
2) If it is a 56000, what sort of routines are included in the on-chip
Program ROM?
3) Is external program memory available to the 5600x, and are routines
available to download new 5600x program contents?
Also, for digital audio recording, I'll require long sustained disk
reads/writes at the highest rate possible. Any tips/suggestions/experience
in this area would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for any info,
G.K. Wicker
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: NewsGrazer and gzip compression ?
Message-ID: <D5CKDt.DG@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 21:44:17 GMT
Hi,
Right now, I'm using flat files with NewsGrazer and it works fine. So far,
I'm receiving all News with no compression at all. It works great, but as
I subscribed to more and more Newsgroups, it takes a long time to download
from my provider through a 14400bps line. I asked him about how to improve
the speed of the transmission and he told me he could gzip all the news if
only I could make sure that I'm able to receive and decompress them.
So here is my question : how do I tell NewsGrazer (or whoever) to
decompress the News with gzip ? What would be available for me to receive
all my news gziped and still being able to read them with NewsGrazer ?
Thanks to e-mail me all the answers, even the ones you find too simple.
Jacques Garbi
From: me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dots for NeXTstep3.0
Date: 14 Mar 1995 11:23:28 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3k3ubg$r1q@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
dear readers of comp.sys.next.software
I would like to use the application Dots to print from a NeXT(Moto) to a
DeskJet. Unfortunately, the newer versions (like 3.5.3 ) seem to require
NeXTstep3.1 or higher. Since I have NeXTstep3.0 installed, I am looking
for a campatibel version. Does anybody know a a place where to find such a
thing( the standard servers orst, muenchen,.. only carry the most recent
one)
Thanks in advance W. Wetzel
--
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Universitaet Heidelberg email:
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From: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: REPOST: Framemaker 2.x on black: full rulers?
Date: 14 Mar 1995 00:18:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3k2nd5$hma@agate.berkeley.edu>
I didn't hear from anyone about this the first time, so am asking
again.
Does anyone know how to show full rulers in a window with Frame-
Maker? It's not in the documentation, anywhere. I've tried and
tried to no avail...
Thanks!
--
*******************************************************
Jessica L. Mosher
NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
--John Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: vesper@sewp.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need a fast serial port
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14:50:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Message-ID: <950314095000.3154AADbl.vesper@vege>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I've got a NextStation Turbo and I'm looking for a serial port and driver
that will do better than 19600. Anyone have any luck with high throughput
serial ports on the NextStations. I don't think the stock port is capable
of more than 19600.
Direct responses would be appreciated.
Thanks,
-Greg.
---
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phone: 301-286-5162, FAX: 301-286-1619 --- * ---
what: SEWP BOWL Manager, Goddard Space Flight Center / | \
life: "Turn your eyes upon Jesus, look full in his wonderful face, |
And the things of earth will grow strangely dim, |
In the light of his glory and grace.
From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw (JesseH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help!WetPaint
Date: 14 Mar 1995 17:12:39 GMT
Organization: Div.Cardiology, National Defense Medical Center
Message-ID: <3k4iq7$7b4@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Dear Gentlemen and ladies,
I am running WetPaint 1.6 under NeXTStep for intel 3.3. The video
display is S3 805 set 1024*768 8 bit colour/gray. But I could never
open EPS and tiff files saved on a clipart CD originslly issued for
Macintosh.
What should I do?
Simon Chih-L Han MB
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Div. of Cardiovascular Medicine
National Defense Medical Center
What will be the
future?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????The future is
now....................................
From: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: need tax software
Date: 14 Mar 1995 17:08:05 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Dept. of C.S., New Haven, CT 06520-8285
Message-ID: <3k4ihl$dt1@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Can anyone recommend tax software for use on the NeXT? I have black
hardware and a color monitor. If it's not too much trouble please mention
price and ordering information because I am a novice user.
--
Richard Beigel telephone: (203)432-1228
Dept. of Computer Science email: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu
P.O. Box 208285 campus mail: A. K. Watson Hall
New Haven, CT 06520-8285 51 Prospect Street
From: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: free image editing software?
Date: 14 Mar 1995 17:09:12 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Dept. of C.S., New Haven, CT 06520-8285
Message-ID: <3k4ijo$dt1@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Is there any free image editing software available?
--
Richard Beigel telephone: (203)432-1228
Dept. of Computer Science email: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu
P.O. Box 208285 campus mail: A. K. Watson Hall
New Haven, CT 06520-8285 51 Prospect Street
From: "Wesley C. Smith" <wes@take3.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS POP Client
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 20:41:53 GMT
Organization: Take 3
Sender: Wesley C. Smith <wes@take3.com>
Message-ID: <950314154153.880AAABF.wes@sherlock.take3.com>
References: <len-1203951854450001@mac.znet.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>Anyone tell me of a POP Mail client for NS? Black or Fat..
Eloquent supports POP. For more info about Eloquent send e-mail to
eloquent_info@take3.com.
Wesley C. Smith
wes@take3.com NeXT, MIME, ASCII, SUN, Microsoft
Take 3 (616) 228-6556 phone
P.O. Box 40 (616) 929-3336 fax
Cedar, MI 49621-0040
From: boyan@xafs.phys.nd.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Hey Absoft, your product is crap (was Re: fortran compiler)
Date: 14 Mar 1995 20:16:21 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k4til$44q@news.nd.edu>
References: <3ivj00$d44@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> <3jg22g$7d3@potogold.rmii.com>
In article <3jg22g$7d3@potogold.rmii.com>, dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble) writes:
|> In article <3ivj00$d44@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> rhaas@coos.dartmouth.edu
|> (Richard M. Haas) writes:
|> >
|> > Hi there -
|> > I don't know if this exists in the FAQ or not, but I need
|> specifics
|> > anyway. Does anyone know of a good cheap fortran compiler for the
|> > NeXT?
|> >
|> >
|> > Any help would be appreciated,
|> > Rich
|>
|> Although not necessarily "cheap," Absoft's Object-Oriented FORTRAN 77
|> ($750 educational) is "good."
|> --
I have to disagree strongly. I have used Absoft
FORTRAN compilers on NeXStep, Mac, and AIX.
They have sucked big time regardless of the platform.
The reason I am so steamed up is that I just came
accross yet another stupid bug in version 3.1.3 (NeXTstep, black):
just try defining an "integer function key(...)"
and you will see what I mean. The compiler swallows
it without blinking, yet the program goes wild at runtime,
producing "arbitrary" results. That very same code
excutes with no problems when run through f2c, or the
VAX, SGI, IBM AIX, or LangSys (Macintosh) fortran compilers.
Renaming the function from "key" to something else
solves the problem. The only reason this took me five minutes
to discover is because of a similar experience with that same
piece of crap and a "subroutine correl(...)" a few years ago.
At that time I struggled almost a day before figuring out what
the problem is.
Yet another example of the stupidity of the Absoft compiler,
who anyone that has tried to compile MOPAC under NeXTStep is
aware of. Statements like
parameter (i=1, j=2)
dimension x(max(i,j))
are a "no go" with Absoft's crap. I have yet to discover
another compiler that behaves in a similar way.
And I will not even go into the little "features" that make
day-to-day work with this thing a living hell, or lack of
support for the admittedly non-standard "edate" and "ftime"
functions (again, ALL other vendors I have tried have support for
them).
My advice - if you can help it run like hell when you
see the name "Absoft" ion anything. I truly hope that
g77 is usable when it comes out. I will dump Absoft
in exactly 15 seconds.
Frustrated... very frustrated,
Boyan
--
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boyan@tmnxt1.iit.edu
http://tmnxt1.iit.edu/~boyan/
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From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there a FREE X server for ND systems?
Date: 14 Mar 1995 13:42:22 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3k46fu$e0g@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi all, I was wondering if there was a freely available X Windows server application for NEXTSTEP, which can work with a NeXTdimension system. I have come across Mouse-X on an ftp site, but the readme indicated that it would not run on the ND.
Thanks for any help,
Eren Kotan
From: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Astraloids
Date: 14 Mar 1995 15:31:24 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Dept. of C.S., New Haven, CT 06520-8285
Message-ID: <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
This game sounds great. But isn't it risky to download and run
binaries? How do I know the game doesn't have a virus?
--
Richard Beigel telephone: (203)432-1228
Dept. of Computer Science email: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu
P.O. Box 208285 campus mail: A. K. Watson Hall
New Haven, CT 06520-8285 51 Prospect Street
position of the Las Vegas Naked Entertainers Corp.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Allan MacKinnon <allanmac@sdt.com>
Subject: Where's the NCR53C8XX DRIVER!?!!?!
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Message-ID: <D55IMz.Ato@uunet!aadt>
Sender: root@uunet!aadt (Operator)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Organization: American Airlines Decision Technologies
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 02:23:22 GMT
Is this thing ready yet? The first quarter
is almost over, yet I haven't heard a peep!
ASM
allanmac@sdt.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@uunet!aadt (Operator)
Subject: Re: Is SLIP/PPP a Pain with NS 3.3?
Message-ID: <D5902r.9s3@uunet!aadt>
Organization: American Airlines Decision Technologies
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950224232453.24450A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu> <3ink0t$6b@mars.earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 23:32:51 GMT
Don't forget the Mux driver -- with my PPI 14.4 modem
I can consistently get between 1620-1710 cps when connected
from NS3.3 <-> NT3.5 Workstation.
Without Mux things didn't work very well or very long.
ASM
From: hoff@ipsi.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where's the NCR53C8XX DRIVER!?!!?!
Date: 15 Mar 1995 01:59:34 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Message-ID: <3k5hm6$1jt@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <D55IMz.Ato@uunet!aadt>
Allan MacKinnon (allanmac@sdt.com) wrote:
>
>Is this thing ready yet? The first quarter
>is almost over, yet I haven't heard a peep!
Of course not.
Check NeXTanswers carefully, the NCR driver overview says that the driver
has been set back to Q2.
I'm not amused anymore. By the time the driver comes out, everyone will be
pissed off and already have bought an Adaptec 2940 PCI card.
Holger
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Holger Hoffstaette // [eMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jsafar@lehman.com (john safar)
Subject: Re: [Documentation Generator]
Message-ID: <D5G5oE.Ax5@lehman.com>
Sender: news@lehman.com (News)
Organization: Lehman Brothers
References: <1995Mar13.221041.434@il.us.swissbank.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 20:17:00 GMT
It doesn't seem like it is up there (not shown in the index!)
In article <1995Mar13.221041.434@il.us.swissbank.com>
howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard) writes:
> jean safar writes
> > I am looking for a documentation generator. I am taking a look at CM
> > yet, it doesn't seem to be able to integrate comments that might be
> > in the code (comment block right before the actual function).
> >
> > Does anyone know about a tool shareware or commercial that does that.
>
> About a year and a half ago there was a new app called
> ManPagesFromHeaders. It did a nice job of scanning the header files in
> your app and generating RTF pages in the style of the NeXT online docs.
> You still need to go back and flesh out the skeleton with verbiage, of
> course. I'm not sure this is the kind of app you're looking for, but if
> it is see if it's still available on ftp.cs.orst.edu somewhere.
>
> Denise
> --
> Denise Howard \/ howardd@swissbank.com
> Swiss Bank Corporation \/ deniseh@mcs.com
> Chicago, IL \/ [NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail welcome]
> (312) 554-6298 \/ "Older and Bolder!"
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From: djc@vnp.com (Dan Crimmins)
Subject: Re: Need a fast serial port
In-Reply-To: vesper@sewp.nasa.gov's message of Tue, 14 Mar 1995 14: 50:00 GMT
Message-ID: <DJC.95Mar14121127@nwk92_ocachi.vnp.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: VNP Software, Inc.
References: <950314095000.3154AADbl.vesper@vege>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 18:11:27 GMT
In article <950314095000.3154AADbl.vesper@vege>, vesper@sewp.nasa.gov writes:
> I've got a NextStation Turbo and I'm looking for a serial port and driver
> that will do better than 19600. Anyone have any luck with high throughput
> serial ports on the NextStations. I don't think the stock port is capable
> of more than 19600.
greg,
the built-in serial ports on black hardware can communicate at 38400 quite
comfortably. beginning in 3.2, it became possible to set DTE rates up to
57600, but that pushed the limits of reliability. for anything above
9600, you must be certain to have a serial cable that supports hardware
flow control (as documented in the zs(4) man page).
another option for a single high-speed serial port on black hardware is
TTYDSP from Yrrid. i've got a couple of these for use with V.34 modems, and
they work great. the specs claim a DTE rate of up to 128 Kbps. using PNI,
i can get 4.5 - 5.0 Kbps real transfer rates when ftp'ing text files.
the contact info for Yrrid is:
Yrrid, Inc.
507 Monroe Street
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
voice: 919-968-7858
fax: 919-968-7856
yrrid@world.std.com
good luck,
--dan.
--
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vnp software
chicago
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From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WordPerfect 1.01 question
Date: 14 Mar 1995 18:52:59 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3k4omb$3ne@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
When _adding_ words to the WP spell checker is it possible
to add/remove words from the STANDARD dictionary?
Our secretary seems to have added 'ont' to the standard
WP dict - not her own (in ~/wplexsup.us)
Any ideas on how to remove items that have been added?
--
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From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there a FREE X server for ND systems?
Date: 14 Mar 1995 17:45:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k4koc$o93@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3k46fu$e0g@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
In article <3k46fu$e0g@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren
Kotan) writes:
> [...] freely available X Windows server application [...] which can work
> with a NeXTdimension system.
Doesn't exist.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: aoki@physics.ucla.edu (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Astraloids
Date: 15 Mar 1995 04:03:45 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics, UCLA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <AOKI.95Mar14200347@gauss.physics.ucla.edu>
References: <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> <3k5cuo$cfo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
In-reply-to: olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca's message of 15 Mar 1995 00:38:48 GMT
>>>>> "RB" == B Olav Anderson <olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca> writes:
RB> In article <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu
RB> (Richard Beigel) writes:
>>
>> This game sounds great. But isn't it risky to download and run
>> binaries? How do I know the game doesn't have a virus?
>>
RB> You Don't :-)
But you are much better off than single user systems in that it
will only run at user priority and it cannot wreck the
system. (Unless the app needs to be suid root, which Astraloids
does NOT.) It can, however, still erase your own files, for
instance, if it is programmed to do so.
If you are really paranoid, you can just create a new account,
say player, whose sole purpose is to play games. Then, play games
as this user. (And of course, never play games suid root.)
I should emphasize that as far as I know, Astraloids does not
have any bugs/virii/etc of any sort.
--
___Kenichiro Aoki (ken@th.phys.titech.ac.jp)
Dept.of Physics,Tokyo Inst. of Tech., Meguro-ku, Tokyo, Japan.
.... on the road oDo .......
From: jason_fosback@psca.com (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS POP Client
Date: 14 Mar 1995 23:51:32 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3k5a64$bff@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <len-1203951854450001@mac.znet.com>
In article <len-1203951854450001@mac.znet.com> len@znet.com (Len
MacDonell) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Anyone tell me of a POP Mail client for NS? Black or Fat..
>
> --
> Len MacDonell
> ___________________________________________________________________
> T1-SUNs-28.8-ppp-flat rate-WWW-custom domain-POP Mail
> info@zNET.com http://www.znet.com ftp://ftp.znet.com/
Try PopOver.app. It free-ware, and it supports IMAP, POP2, and POP3
servers. You can find it on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/PopOver.1.2.NIH.bd.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/PopOver.1.2.README
-jason
_____________________________________________________________________
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Internet: jason_fosback@psca.com | money on a stupid card game?'
NeXT mail: jason_fosback@psca.com | 'Shut up Beavis, Magic's cool!'
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From: dion.dock@mccaw.com (Dion Dock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Documentation Generator]
Date: 14 Mar 1995 16:00:33 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3k4ej1$nrf@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <D5Dztw.CIH@lehman.com>
> I am looking for a documentation generator. I am taking a look at CM
> yet, it doesn't seem to be able to integrate comments that might be
> in the code (comment block right before the actual function).
Take a look at comp.sys.next.announce for the blurb on Sight-C-ing from
Hypersight.
-dion
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From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Astraloids
In-Reply-To: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu's message of 14 Mar 1995 15:31:24 GMT
Message-ID: <byerzngmzo5skdeu@ductwork.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:55:32 GMT
Richard Beigel writes:
Richard> This game sounds great. But isn't it risky to download and run
Richard> binaries? How do I know the game doesn't have a virus?
"Viruses", per se, have a very tough time living under Unix, which has real
memory protection. It would only be through exploiting bugs in the OS or
setuid root programs that a virus could live - and those bugs and how to
take advantage of them tend to change from OS release to OS release.
Toy ;-) operating systems, such as found on the Mac, don't have such memory
protection, and so a virus can simply hunt around memory and find other
applications, modify them and get that written to disk. Not particularly
difficult.
That being said, Trojan Horses still abound under Unix. A Trojan Horse can
do damage to your private files, but usually can't do major damage to the
system itself. But - you know which new thing did the damage, and it can be
removed quickly. Unlike a Virus, it can't bury itself into other
applications and continue living on your machine.
If you're feeling paranoid, then what you need to do is learn how to create
a dummy user account on your machine, and always run new binaries under
there. Make sure that user has no group access, especially not "bin" access
(so that "system" calls trying to use "rm" will fail).
Of course, I'm not an expert at being paranoid. You can get _real_ paranoid
if you like. But if you were _real_ paranoid, you would never have used Unix,
and wouldn't even have been in the same building as a Mac or a PC. ;-)
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From: jsafar@lehman.com (john safar)
Subject: OmniWeb does not display the images
Message-ID: <D5G974.Dux@lehman.com>
Keywords: gif files
Sender: news@lehman.com (News)
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 21:33:03 GMT
Hi,
I have just installed OmniWeb, I am unable to get the gif files displayed
instead I get a barred gif icon. I have looked through the preferences
and cannot find any relevant setting, does anyone have a clue?
(I am using OmniWeb prerelease 2!)
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From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Astraloids
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 10:42:42 GMT
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <D5H9r7.Av@harka>
References: <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Originator: HARKA@nice.ethz.ch
Richard Beigel (beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu) wrote:
> This game sounds great. But isn't it risky to download and run
> binaries? How do I know the game doesn't have a virus?
I have Astraloids on my system for over a week now and haven't noticed
anything special. It's just a real great game! Money is already on the
way...
- Felix
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS POP Client
Date: 15 Mar 1995 05:11:14 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.95Mar15001114@freedom.princeton.edu>
References: <len-1203951854450001@mac.znet.com>
To: len@znet.com (Len MacDonell)
In-reply-to: len@znet.com's message of Sun, 12 Mar 1995 18:54:45 -0800
In article <len-1203951854450001@mac.znet.com> len@znet.com (Len MacDonell) writes:
Anyone tell me of a POP Mail client for NS? Black or Fat..
There are a number which work with Mail.app. What I wonder is why
nobody has written a version which is completely transparent to
Mail.app users. Given the number of hooks in particular since
Mail.app 3.3, but even earlier doing that would be fairly trivial. If
I needed it myself I'd have done it a long time ago.
Carl Edman
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hidden treasures in 3.3
Date: 15 Mar 1995 05:13:30 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.95Mar15001330@freedom.princeton.edu>
References: <1995Feb27.110751.2998@proximus.north.de> <3jj50o$73u@news.next.com>
<1995Mar13.084450.11964@proximus.north.de>
To: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
In-reply-to: gemoe@proximus.north.de's message of Mon, 13 Mar 1995 08:44:50 GMT
In article <1995Mar13.084450.11964@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
My posting was not too serious. (That's why I included the smiley.)
Now seriously: I think it is a GREAT idea to include some UNIXish tools like
zsh, pico (which is, in fact, a much later version as I had before (I used
to use version 1.7), even Umlauts are possible!)) and some other. I even wish
you could include cvs (!), jove, elvis (or vim), perl and some other as
well. But what is MISSING is an announcement for those new tools.
Hate to correct you again, but should I point out that perl 4.036 _is_
part of NS 3.3 ? :)
Carl Edman
From: jgaines@mcs.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
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From: mfradkin@next.mrco.carleton.ca (Mikhail Fradkin)
Subject: True Type fonts on the Next?
Message-ID: <D5HM19.HHE@cunews.carleton.ca>
Keywords: fonts
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 15:07:57 GMT
Is it possible to use True Type fonts on NeXT running NeXTStep
3.0? I am aware of 'no' answer from FAQ files for both NeXT and
comp.fonts, but is there any way around? Is there any PD tools to
convert True Type font to Post Script Type 1 either within NeXTStep or
on Mac or in MS Windows?
Thank you in advance.
Regards, Misha.
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From: joker@balou.rhein.de (Joachim Hartmann)
Subject: Re: Frame 5 and NS
Message-ID: <D5H17r.I1p@balou.rhein.de>
Organization: private NeXT
References: <3k1tde$35k3@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 07:38:15 GMT
Dave Randall (randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu) wrote:
: The word is that Frame 5 will be announced at the end of this month. I have
: heard that Frame 5 will be supported for NS (and I hope for OS). Does anybody
: know for sure?
From: x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Steven Kenneth Besler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MiniSQL problems
Date: 14 Mar 1995 15:20:01 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3k58b1INN3c@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
References: <3jjj3n$eum@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3jo9kmINNf7b@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> <3jo9p9INNfrg@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> <D5D18C.3u0@trapac.com>
In article <D5D18C.3u0@trapac.com>, Karl Kraft <karl@trapac.com> wrote:
>In article <3jo9p9INNfrg@anvil.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> x4y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca (Steven Kenneth Besler) writes:
>>
>>Hmm. Perhaps 3.0 cannot load MAB bundles. I'm pretty sure it can run
>>MAB apps, though.
>>
>
>I had thought that I had followed up on this previously, but perhaps not.
>
>3.0 cannot load MAB bundles. It can run MAB apps. You can use
>lipo or plipo to extract the bundles down to single architecture,
>and take it from there.
Plipo seems to be able to thin out MAB apps and bundles. The resulting
"SAB" apps work, but the bundles still do not. I'm thinking that their
may be a difference between "thin" bundles and MAB bundles which contain
only one architecture. The bundles which are output from plipo are not
recognized by otool as being executables, for example. My guess is that
they are in the MAB format, but contain only one architecture. The dynamic
loader (or whatever) doesn't understand this format, and cannot load them.
Any suggestions?
Steve
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From: dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Daniel L'Hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: sndplay (or other sound player) source?
Date: 15 Mar 1995 15:07:53 -0500
Organization: Interpath -- Public Access UNIX for North Carolina
Message-ID: <dcl.795297864@mercury>
Hi. My roommate has a Linux box, and we have a dedicated SLIP line via
28.8k modem from home (Linux box) to where I work. We are interested in
having some fun with our computers (everything has sound capability) and
one thing we want to do is build some sort of program so that we can
monitor sounds in our apartment from work. At 8k sampling rate, and 28k
modem rate, things should be good.
From Linux, he can
cat /dev/audio | rsh <other machine> "cat > /dev/audio"
to get sound from one machine to another.
But you can't do this on the NeXT. Or can you, and I don't know how?
What I want is a way to play sound as it arrives, at 8k per second. Surely
there's a way to do this. If there isn't, I'm willing to develop one. But
what I need is a sound converter and/or sound player where EVERYTHING works
from stdio. Something like:
cat /dev/audio | rsh <my NeXT> "cat | sox | sndplay"
Anybody got any ideas?
Daniel
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From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NeXTStep Self-Consciously Marginalized
Date: 15 Mar 1995 01:14:08 -0800
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Message-ID: <3k6b50$kpi@jobe.shell.portal.com>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950302003930.13644A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu>
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950302003930.13644A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu>,
Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> wrote:
>I am a Windows NT user that after some experience with NeXT on Black
>hardware and then on Intel and after reading the good points of NeXT in
>these groups recently installed NS 3.3 on my Intel Pentium machine.
>
>My worst fear at purchase time was that it would be too slow on my
>Pentium 60 with 32 Megs. I was completely wrong about this. It is
>highly responsive, as I hoped it would be. Good job on this, NeXT.
>
Heck, even Windows for Workgroups would be fiarly responsive on that
system :-) :-)
>Then I shortly ran into my personal instance of NeXT with its head in the
>clouds. There is no out of the box graphical SLIP or PPP. I am a
>proficient user of many OS's but have little Unix experience. I find it
>to be a total embarassment that the most graphical OS ever designed does
>not have a GUI SLIP/PPP front-end. Even knowing all the relevant IP
>addresses, I cannot get on my network. This is ridiculous.
>
It isn't graphical, but have you tried the PPP at ftp.duq.edu? I'm
using it right this moment with the Mux drivers, and it seems to work just
fine. It took some configuring in the beginning (my provider was using PAP,
which threw me off) but once configured, I start it with pppup and stop
it with pppdown, which is fairly simple.
>Some would argue that I should have been prepared to wrestle NeXT Step as
>a variant of Unix. I would argue that thie is NeXT's greatest obstacle
>to widespread support and market share. The many benefits of Unix must
>be made accessible to a broad audience. NeXT begins to do this with the
>Workspace and other innovations too numerous to list. SLIP/PPP is not
>one of these. Look at OS/2 Warp and Windows NT 3.5. They are NeXT's
>competition and they have this crucial feature.
>
Lets not forget, PPP support is a very recent feature for NT (3.5)
and *really* recent for OS/2 (virtually yesterday). So while I agree that a
graphical shell to PPP would be nice (and probably not terribly hard to
write) its not like NS has been lagging behind the market for ages on this
score.
>NeXT has self-consciously marginalized itself as a workstation OS
>supplier in the age of the microcomputer/desktop client. This is
>self-defeating. NeXT should commission a GUI SLIP/PPP forthwith.
>Built-in ISDN would be nice.
>
>The following additional software should be added ASAP for NeXT to be
>compatible with other x86 OS's. This should be out of the box.
>
>WWW browser a la Netscape
>Microsoft Works like package
>WWW server software with everything necessary to publish pages
>
>If NeXT had these additional features, it would be my primary OS.
>
>I invite comments.
>
>Matt
>
Well, I use OmniWeb for net browsing, and while it isn't "out of the
box" it is free (for single users, I mean one person usage, not unmarried
people :-) ). There is WWW server software for free out there also
(and neither NT nor OS/2 has this little feature out of the box either).
I don't know about writing and giving a works like package for free; I
don't even know anyone using works now (everyone I know finds cheap ways to
aquire a Microsoft Office "upgrade").
Microsoft and OS/2 are in a position to give such things away, and
they don't (well, OS/2 does give away a really teeny applet set). So I
don't fault NS for not giving apps away (except in those cases above where
free stuff exissts already).
NS is my primary OS now, without those features. I agree there
should have been PPP out of the box, but at least there is a solution out
there.
Duane
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From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Documentation Generator]
Date: 15 Mar 1995 18:33:30 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3k7btq$d5e@news.xmission.com>
References: <1995Mar13.221041.434@il.us.swissbank.com> <D5G5oE.Ax5@lehman.com>
That's because it isn't there.
Would someone who knows where it is email me the location of this
utility? I would find it quite useful in my line of work, but I don't
have time to dig through fifteen archive sites....
Once located, I'll put a copy on orst.
.......................kris
john safar (jsafar@lehman.com) wrote:
: It doesn't seem like it is up there (not shown in the index!)
: In article <1995Mar13.221041.434@il.us.swissbank.com>
: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard) writes:
: > About a year and a half ago there was a new app called
: > ManPagesFromHeaders. It did a nice job of scanning the header files in
: > your app and generating RTF pages in the style of the NeXT online docs.
: > You still need to go back and flesh out the skeleton with verbiage, of
: > course. I'm not sure this is the kind of app you're looking for, but if
: > it is see if it's still available on ftp.cs.orst.edu somewhere.
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From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: [Documentation Generator]
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <D5Dztw.CIH@lehman.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 20:03:55 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Mar15.200355.12996@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <D5Dztw.CIH@lehman.com> jsafar@lehman.com (jean safar) writes:
> I am looking for a documentation generator. I am taking a look at CM
> yet, it doesn't seem to be able to integrate comments that might be
> in the code (comment block right before the actual function).
>
> Does anyone know about a tool shareware or commercial that does that.
SIGHT-C-ING (awkward name) does that. There's a demo on orst.
Paul
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From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: ?: PS-Level2 JPEG Compression?
Message-ID: <D5HIL1.qq@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 13:53:25 GMT
Is there a possibility to use the PostScript Level2 JPEG compression
under Nextstep? We are handling with some big grafics in our
documents and a JPEG compression would need much fewer space in the
produced PostScript files.
So, I'm interested, if NeXtstep DPS supports JPEG compressed
PostScript files at all and for this case, I'm looking for grafics
software, which supports this.
Michael Pieper
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From: wjs@ocelot.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and Usenet
Date: 15 Mar 1995 00:33:28 -0800
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3k68oo$1c6@ocelot.omnigroup.com>
References: <3hrjnk$7qu@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3i54jn$qf9@runner.uucp> <Pine.NXT.3.91.950220152034.4851S-100000@avocado> <3jqs8p$mpv@dcsun4.us.oracle.com>
GH Chinoy (hussain@artsci.wustl.edu) wrote:
>: Richard,
>: OmniWeb 0.9.3 doesn't have a Preferences panel entry for the newshost.
>: What you'll have to do is:
>: dwrite OmniWeb NewsHost whatever.whatever.whatever
Upgrade to OmniWeb 1.0! I think PR2 has this fixed (newshost is on
the proxies panel), it's at:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/OmniWeb-1.0PR2.app.tar.gz
If it isn't fixed in PR2, it is in the final, which will be out this
week.
From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: sndplay (or other sound player) source?
Date: 15 Mar 1995 21:43:49 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Message-ID: <3k7n2l$o69@decaxp.harvard.edu>
References: <dcl.795297864@mercury>
In article <dcl.795297864@mercury> dcl@mercury.interpath.net (Daniel
L'Hommedieu) writes:
> From Linux, he can
> cat /dev/audio | rsh <other machine> "cat > /dev/audio"
> to get sound from one machine to another.
>
> But you can't do this on the NeXT. Or can you, and I don't know how?
There used to be a sndhost command that let you play sounds back on
other hosts. I haven't seen it around in a few years, however.
- -
Sean Varah
Harvard Computer Music Studio
cello@mario.harvard.edu
NeXTMail Welcome
From: dmedhi@CSTP.UMKC.EDU (Deep Medhi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Monitor display problem. HELP!
Date: 10 Mar 1995 21:52:05 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City, CSTP
Message-ID: <3jqhm5$2c0@kasey.umkc.edu>
Help,
When I as trying to reboot my machine today,
I could NOT get my Console Window after reboot (ie. I could
not get next username/passwd display; however, the arrow
showed up.) I tried rebooting a couple of times.
I can remote login to my machine from another host, though.
I have appended the messages that showed up in /usr/adm/messages
file.
Is there anyway to fix this problem? Or, is my monitor
shot?
Please HELP.
Thanks.
Deep Medhi
Email: dmedhi@cstp.umkc.edu
====
file: /usr/adm/messages:
Mar 10 14:54:48 aazoli reboot: rebooted by dmedhi
Mar 10 14:54:49 aazoli syslogd: going down on signal 15
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: Remote debugging enabled
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: NeXT Mach 2.1: Thu Mar 7 19:13:47 PST 1991; /ph1_sources/projects/mk-108.14/RELEASE
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: FPU version 0x40
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: physical memory = 32.00 megabytes.
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: available memory = 30.82 megabytes.
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: using 16 buffers containing 0.12 megabytes of memory
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: fc0 at 0x2114100
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: Sony MPX-111N as fd0 at fc0 slave 0
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2114000
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: SEAGATE ST1480 as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: Disk Label: NeXT_2.1_Ext
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: Disk Capacity 406MB, Device Block 512 bytes
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: en0 at 0x2106000
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:00:db:b3
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet"
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: dsp0 at 0x2108000
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: np0 at 0x200f000
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: sound0 at 0x200e000
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: root on sd0
Mar 10 14:55:35 aazoli mach: master cpu at slot 0.
Mar 10 14:55:38 aazoli ntpd[82]: bind() fails: Address already in use
Mar 10 14:55:45 aazoli automount: Master yp map: args to yp function are bad
Mar 10 14:56:37 aazoli syslog: loginwindow: could not find WindowServer port!
Mar 10 14:56:38 aazoli WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: Remote debugging enabled
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: NeXT Mach 2.1: Thu Mar 7 19:13:47 PST 1991; /ph1_sources/projects/mk-108.14/RELEASE
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: FPU version 0x40
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: physical memory = 32.00 megabytes.
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: available memory = 30.82 megabytes.
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: using 16 buffers containing 0.12 megabytes of memory
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: fc0 at 0x2114100
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: Sony MPX-111N as fd0 at fc0 slave 0
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2114000
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: SEAGATE ST1480 as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: Disk Label: NeXT_2.1_Ext
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: Disk Capacity 406MB, Device Block 512 bytes
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: en0 at 0x2106000
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:00:db:b3
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet"
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: dsp0 at 0x2108000
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: np0 at 0x200f000
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: sound0 at 0x200e000
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: root on sd0
Mar 10 15:04:47 aazoli mach: master cpu at slot 0.
Mar 10 15:04:52 aazoli ntpd[82]: bind() fails: Address already in use
Mar 10 15:04:58 aazoli automount: Master yp map: args to yp function are bad
Mar 10 15:05:51 aazoli syslog: loginwindow: could not find WindowServer port!
Mar 10 15:05:53 aazoli WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Mar 10 15:05:54 aazoli -[136]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 2213c, data -102
Mar 10 15:05:54 aazoli -[136]: exiting due to unknown DPS error, code 1103
Mar 10 15:05:55 aazoli WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Mar 10 15:05:57 aazoli -[138]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 2213c, data 0
Mar 10 15:05:57 aazoli -[138]: exiting due to unknown DPS error, code 1103
Mar 10 15:05:57 aazoli netmsgserver[55]: netname_main.msg_send fails, kr = -102.
Mar 10 15:05:58 aazoli WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Mar 10 15:19:24 aazoli reboot: rebooted by dmedhi
Mar 10 15:19:25 aazoli syslogd: going down on signal 15
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: Remote debugging enabled
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: NeXT Mach 2.1: Thu Mar 7 19:13:47 PST 1991; /ph1_sources/projects/mk-108.14/RELEASE
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: FPU version 0x40
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: physical memory = 32.00 megabytes.
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: available memory = 30.82 megabytes.
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: using 16 buffers containing 0.12 megabytes of memory
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: fc0 at 0x2114100
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: Sony MPX-111N as fd0 at fc0 slave 0
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2114000
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: SEAGATE ST1480 as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: Disk Label: NeXT_2.1_Ext
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: Disk Capacity 406MB, Device Block 512 bytes
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: en0 at 0x2106000
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:00:db:b3
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet"
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: dsp0 at 0x2108000
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: np0 at 0x200f000
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: sound0 at 0x200e000
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: root on sd0
Mar 10 15:20:10 aazoli mach: master cpu at slot 0.
Mar 10 15:20:13 aazoli ntpd[81]: bind() fails: Address already in use
Mar 10 15:20:29 aazoli WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 2213c
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: Commandoask ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: and ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: stackunderflow; OffendingCommand: index ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: } ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: bind ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: "_NXDefProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: lmdragWinDragEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: stackunderflow; OffendingCommand: roll ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /_dragInitY ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: } ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: bind ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /keyDownEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /keyUpEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /flagsChEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /sysDefEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: put ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /sysDefEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: put ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /lmdownWSEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /lmupWSEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /lmdragWSEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /keyDownEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /keyUpEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /sysDefEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: put ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /lmupWinDragEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /lmdragWinDragEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /sysDefEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: put ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /keyDownEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /keyUpEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: /sysDefEvProc ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: put ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: deskWinHandler ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: seteventprocedures ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: _dragWindowHandler ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: seteventprocedures ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: setshared ]%%
Mar 10 15:20:31 aazoli -[130]: exiting due to unknown DPS error, code 1002
Mar 10 15:20:32 aazoli netmsgserver[54]: netname_main.msg_send fails, kr = -102.
Mar 10 15:20:33 aazoli WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
---end of /usr/adm/messages---
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From: pgaudett@schoolnet (Pascal Gaudette)
Subject: OmniImage problems with color EPS
Message-ID: <D5JL41.A26@cunews.carleton.ca>
Keywords: OmniImage, EPS, TIFF, GIF, Create
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 16:43:13 GMT
Well, I have some color EPS files that I want to convert to gif,
so, I fire up OmniImage, and open the eps files -- egads!
It does not open properly, and saves as a 2-bit grayscale gif!
Ack.
So, I currently have to do eps->tiff with ImageViewer, then
tiff->gif with OmniImage. Annoying.
Anyone else have the same problems? The EPS files contain
Pantone colors, and samples are available upon request.
Software:
NeXTstep 3.2
OmniImage 3.0.2 (it and the filters downloaded yesterday)
Hardware:
NeXTstation mono non-turbo
And while we're at it, why is it that if I put colors
in a Create (v1v11) document, and save as tiff and eps, it will
keep the colors in the eps files, but chop them to 2-bit
greyscale in tiff?
So many questions, so little time...
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From: arandell@trial.UVic.CA (Alex Randell)
Subject: Need XWindows for Black NeXT NS 3.0
Message-ID: <1995Mar15.222513.10109@sol.UVic.CA>
Followup-To: arandell@gulf
Summary: looking for XWindows - preferably freeware
Keywords: XWindows X11
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 95 22:25:13 GMT
Thanks,
Alex
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From: jsafar@lehman.com (john safar)
Subject: Cannot reach Huchinson Ave
Message-ID: <D5I27E.Mu0@lehman.com>
Sender: news@lehman.com (News)
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 20:57:14 GMT
Hi,
I am trying to rich Scott Parkinson at Hutchinson Ave but his email
scott@hasc.ca is being sent back to me. Does anyone know his or someone else's
from this company email regarding the p-kit.
Thanx in advance-
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From: mis07d!mikel (Mike Lokan)
Subject: PDO Example Needed
Message-ID: <D5I0st.8BH@ets.com>
Sender: mikel@ets.com (Mike Lokan)
Organization: ETS, Inc.
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 20:26:53 GMT
Hello,
If any of you will read this have, or know of, a good example of PDO
please email me at the address below. I would like to get a complete
example (source, etc).
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Mike Lokan
mikel@ets.com (NeXT mail welcome)
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniImage problems with color EPS
Date: 16 Mar 1995 21:54:36 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3kac2s$sac@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <D5JL41.A26@cunews.carleton.ca>
Keywords: image conversion; gif
In article <D5JL41.A26@cunews.carleton.ca> pgaudett@schoolnet (Pascal
Gaudette) writes:
|Well, I have some color EPS files that I want to convert to gif,
|so, I fire up OmniImage, and open the eps files -- egads!
|It does not open properly, and saves as a 2-bit grayscale gif!
|Ack.
|
|So, I currently have to do eps->tiff with ImageViewer, then
|tiff->gif with OmniImage. Annoying.
|
|Anyone else have the same problems? The EPS files contain
|Pantone colors, and samples are available upon request.
Everyone else has the same problems! The other thing to watch out for, with
tiff -> .gif conversion is transparency (alpha channel). If the .tiff has
alpha, conversion to gif usually results in a black background.
A more direct route for .eps/.ps to gif is to use ghostscript, which can
produce gif mono or color directly. It does seem ironic, however, to have to
use ghostscript on a NeXT machine.
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York University Voice: 416 736 5118
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From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NeXTStep Self-Consciously Marginalized
Date: 16 Mar 1995 22:45:44 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3kaf2o$i8j@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950302003930.13644A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu> <3k6b50$kpi@jobe.shell.portal.com>
duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine) wrote:
>In article
<Pine.SUN.3.91.950302003930.13644A-100000@tucson.princeton.edu>,
>Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> wrote:
[SNIP]
>>Then I shortly ran into my personal instance of NeXT with its head
in the
>>clouds. There is no out of the box graphical SLIP or PPP. I am a
>>proficient user of many OS's but have little Unix experience. I
find it
>>to be a total embarassment that the most graphical OS ever designed
does
>>not have a GUI SLIP/PPP front-end. Even knowing all the relevant IP
>>addresses, I cannot get on my network. This is ridiculous.
>>
> It isn't graphical, but have you tried the PPP at ftp.duq.edu? I'm
>using it right this moment with the Mux drivers, and it seems to work
just
>fine. It took some configuring in the beginning (my provider was
using PAP,
>which threw me off) but once configured, I start it with pppup and
stop
>it with pppdown, which is fairly simple.
> NS is my primary OS now, without those features. I agree there
>should have been PPP out of the box, but at least there is a solution
out
>there.
> Duane
If you would like a gui front end for ppp2.2 try GateKeeper.app.
It will not install ppp2.2 for you, but it allows you to display pppd
diagnostics, kill pppd and its various processes and it also has a
"cute" icon. Best of all its free.
Get it along with ppp2.2 at:
ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/
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far@earthlink.net # one's fellow citizens, to betray friends,
# to be without faith, without mercy, without
# religion; by these means one can aquire power
# but not glory.
#
(NeXTmail prefered) # --Nicolo, Machiavelli
(MIMEmail welcome) #
From: jonathan huang <75300.322@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q:help on rpc and serial kit.
Date: 16 Mar 1995 23:15:02 GMT
Organization: zeus communications
Message-ID: <3kagpm$j33$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
hello! I am new in next inviroment. I am looking for more info on
rpc on nextstep. I am wondering if there are tools to help or I
have to find stuff like rpc 4.0's bsd version source and compile
it under ns.
I also need more info on serial tools like serial kits. I am
wondering if there are equivolent greenleaf comm lib exit on ns
so I have file trnasfer, terminal emulation ready to be applied.
--
Physics, metaphysics, mathematics,..oh! the universe.
From: psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul Sanders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Perl and libwww-perl on NS3.3
Date: 16 Mar 1995 17:49:14 GMT
Organization: BTnet, BT Public Internet Service
Message-ID: <3k9tmq$d2i@news.bt.net>
I am trying to get the libwww-perl-0.40 software to run on my Intel
NS3.3 machine. When I run the get script that comes with it I get
"Connection refused" for every host I try.
I have used libwww extensively under SunOS so I know that I'm using
the library correctly so I am suspicious of the Perl application I am
using. I got this from the Dutch NS server in a package - I tried building
it myself from the source but could not get it to work :(
Can anyone offer some advice ? Better still, tell me how to get Perl to
build properly from source ?
Paul.
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From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Font conversion
Date: 17 Mar 1995 09:51:13 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3kbm2h$ml1@xexos.xexos.com>
I have been given some postscript fonts that are apparently in PC format,
pfb, I need to get these onto our NeXT machines as normal fonts, ie. so I
can bring them up in the font panel and use them.
Is there such a utility around (freeware/shareware preferably) that will do
this conversion?
Alternatively I could convert them to Mac and then use Metrotools to
convert them to NeXT. (Metrotools won't convert them straight to NeXT, it
complains that part of the font file is missing).
(We have a PC here if such utils exist for DOS/Win)
Any help much appreciated..
-Paul-
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From: paus@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hey Absoft, your product is crap (was Re: fortran compiler)
Date: 17 Mar 1995 11:53:59 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kbt8n$1014@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3k4til$44q@news.nd.edu>
In article <3k4til$44q@news.nd.edu> boyan@xafs.phys.nd.edu (Boyan I. Boyanov) writes:
>
> I have to disagree strongly. I have used Absoft
> FORTRAN compilers on NeXStep, Mac, and AIX.
> They have sucked big time regardless of the platform.
> [...]
> My advice - if you can help it run like hell when you
> see the name "Absoft" ion anything. I truly hope that
> g77 is usable when it comes out. I will dump Absoft
> in exactly 15 seconds.
>
I can only agree with your statements about Absoft, but your 15 minutes
are already over. G77 is out and I have compiled it successfully on
NeXT (black) as well as on an SGI. It seems to be quite good. Give it
a try.
Michael
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From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hidden treasures in 3.3
Date: 16 Mar 1995 20:44:52 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3ka804$qtq@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <1995Feb27.110751.2998@proximus.north.de> <3jj50o$73u@news.next.com> <1995Mar13.084450.11964@proximus.north.de> <CEDMAN.95Mar15001330@freedom.princeton.edu>
Anyone else notice the Star Trek red alert sound when disk space runs low?
mark
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From: biff@firstclass.unb.ca (Thomas Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: More testing stories
Date: 16 Mar 1995 21:19:28 GMT
Organization: FirstClass Systems P.D.C.
Message-ID: <3kaa10$nq9@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca>
Howdy!
>
>If I've missed thanking anyone for the stories
>on GUI testing I've received so far ... sorry,
>and thanks. So far we've received 8 stories that
>we can use. (These stories, or anecdotes, are
>true experiences that you've had in 3 or 4
>paragraphs that can be included at various points
>in a CBT course on GUI testing ... to give the
>material a human element and to reinforce the
>material) Does anyone have a story about the
>interplay between programmers and testers? How
>about automated testing tools? And, I know this
>is a reach ... has anyone had an interesting
>experience that would poin to the need to use
>either black box or white box testing in the
>appropriate context?
>
>Thanks for the stories so far and thanks in advance
>for the stories to come.
My email is biff@firstclass.unb.ca
>
>Biff
>Silence says it all.
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From: mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr)
Subject: how to produce xxx.addresses files?
Message-ID: <1995Mar16.193646.10298@mjw.octagon.de>
Sender: mane@mjw.octagon.de
Organization: Microcomputer-Jobs and Workouts
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:36:46 GMT
Yes those files lying in ~Library/Adresses.
No, not with the Workspace-Manager, but automatically from some
address-managing-package.
???
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From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cannot reach Huchinson Ave
Date: 17 Mar 1995 04:22:17 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Mar16232217@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <D5I27E.Mu0@lehman.com>
In-reply-to: jsafar@lehman.com's message of Wed, 15 Mar 1995 20:57:14 GMT
<jsafar@lehman.com> writes:
> Hi, >I am trying to rich Scott Parkinson at Hutchinson Ave but his
> email >scott@hasc.ca is being sent back to me. Does anyone know his or
> someone else's >from this company email regarding the p-kit.
>
Sorry about this... we recently changed internet providers, and had an
absolutely incredibly bad time of it. I basically had to keep a cron job
up on our gateway, rebooting every few hours to reset the connection
(yes, I tried less intrusive surgery first ;-).
Anyway, we've switched back to our old connection temporarily before
getting an ISDN line installed, so please bear with us while we get this
mess sorted out!
So, just try sending him email again at scott@hasc.ca, or give us a call
at 514/499-2067.
Sorry for the problems...
(We'll also get some USENET going with the new line, so I won't have to
hide out on my old student account ;-).
- darcy
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: next software catalogue
Date: 16 Mar 1995 17:49:29 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kaf9p$j42@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3ka76c$57v@news.aero.org>
Theodore J. Bujewski writes
>
> Can someone please tell me where I may get a catalogue
> or listing of NeXT software which is available and where
> I can by it? I cannot find any place which sells NeXT
> software. Does NeXT or anyone else have a WWW page with
> product information?
>
> Please excuse me if this is a dumb question. This is my
> first time posting to this group.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
Stepwise has information on many/most software products/companies for NEXTSTEP.
<URL:http://www.stepwise.com/>
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Big software companies coming back t
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 17 Mar 95 20:02:13 GMT
Message-ID: <1749575.72133.17336@kcbbs.gen.nz>
References: <3k08iv$1hvq@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
> Mesa and Lighthouse have never abandoned NeXTStep. They make better software
> than the really big houses do. Rather they get my money.
>
> Luke
>
Although I haven't bought any of their products (yet), I'm really
impressed with their speed and support in getting prices making
suggestions. This help is worth far more than industrial standards;
Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Font conversion
Date: 17 Mar 1995 14:16:57 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503172012.AA01698@hukatronic.cz>
References: <3kbm2h$ml1@xexos.xexos.com>
Paul,
In comp.sys.next.software article <3kbm2h$ml1@xexos.xexos.com> you wrote:
> I have been given some postscript fonts that are apparently in PC format,
> pfb, I need to get these onto our NeXT machines as normal fonts, ie. so I
> can bring them up in the font panel and use them.
>
> Is there such a utility around (freeware/shareware preferably) that will do
> this conversion?
The conversion can be done with pcATMfont2Next package available at least
from ftp.cs.orst.edu. The package is actually a collection of utilities so
the conversion must be done by hand. This is especially annoying when
converting huge amount of such fonts. Therefore I wrote a small script to
put all necessary utilities together to make the conversion a little easier,
when I did similar conversion from pfb format to NeXT format. If you are
interested in my script, please, let me know. Before you ask, I must say I
am not expert on shell programming and I know almost nothing about PS fonts,
but it works OK (at least for me) and saves me a lot of time.
Best regards,
--
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
From: jrosenfe@blazer.law.nd.edu (Joseph Rosenfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hidden treasures in 3.3
Date: 17 Mar 1995 20:59:20 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <3kct78$ef1@news.nd.edu>
References: <1995Feb27.110751.2998@proximus.north.de> <3jj50o$73u@news.next.com> <1995Mar13.084450.11964@proximus.north.de> <CEDMAN.95Mar15001330@freedom.princeton.edu> <3ka804$qtq@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Mark Adler (madler@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
: Anyone else notice the Star Trek red alert sound when disk space runs low?
No, but my computer fired a photon torpedo at a would be intruder :-)
VERY helpful.
=======================================================================
Joe Rosenfeld 219-631-3939 Joseph.S.Rosenfeld.1@nd.edu
Director of Law School Computing, University of Notre Dame Law School
=======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: frank_m@pc-frank (Mark Frank)
Subject: NS on sparcstation
Organization: MOTOROLA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 22:07:02 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar17.220702.21233@schbbs.mot.com>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (SCHBBS News Account)
Does anyone know if I'll still be able to run Sun applications with
Nextstep loaded on my Sparc, or will I have to reboot or something?
- Thanks, Mark
p25231@email.mot.com
From: sewall@ee.ualberta.ca (Jeremy Sam Sewall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: MusicKit for NextStep 3.0?
Date: 17 Mar 95 22:41:30 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <sewall.795480090@beaker>
Hi all!
I am trying to do some DSP programming using my
NeXTstation Turbo, and NeXTstep 3.0. So, I would
like to find the MusicKit, which is not bundled with
this version of NeXTstep.
Can anyone tell me where to find this software?
I found version 4.1.1 of the MusicKit, but I am
concerned that it won't like NeXTstep 3.0.
Thanks!!!
Jeremy
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: app to make transparent gifs?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 23:12:17 -0600
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950313231121.5249F-100000@avocado>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi, all,
Is there a freely available app that'll make transparent gifs for
web publishing?
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/
NEXTSTEP, hussain@artsci.wustl.edu
baby http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS on sparcstation
Date: 18 Mar 1995 07:48:55 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ke397$do3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1995Mar17.220702.21233@schbbs.mot.com>
In article <1995Mar17.220702.21233@schbbs.mot.com> frank_m@pc-frank (Mark
Frank) writes:
> Does anyone know if I'll still be able to run Sun applications with
> Nextstep loaded on my Sparc, or will I have to reboot or something?
You will have to reboot. NextStep and Solaris are completely different
operating systems. If you want to run both NextStep like apps and old
Solaris apps concurrently, you will have to wait another six months until
OpenStep appears on Sun hardware.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: shenning@Cornell-Iowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Perl 5.000 Compile on Intel
Date: 18 Mar 1995 07:23:28 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ke1pg$hth@nexus.uiowa.edu>
I am runnig NS 3.3, 3.2 Developer on an Intel P90. I have been unable to
compile Perl 5.000 on my system. It gets through the main compalation, but
dies on the link, something to do with multiple declarations in the malloc
libraries. I have tried using only the perllib, but then I am missing
things on the link.
I also had to hack 3 *.c files to get them to compile
av.h, doio.c, mg.c, pp_sys.c
basically this consisted of commenting out if/then statements. I believe
my problem is that I don't have some variables defined properly in the
configuration. The code I commented out dealt with directories and system
time functions.
I would greatly appreciate it if anyone had any suggestions or a working
config file to get me going.
--
[ Shawn P. Henning ][ Phone: ]
[ Cornell College, Box 563 ][ 319.895.8940 ]
[ 600 1st Street West ][ Maildrop: ]
[ Mount Vernon, IA 52314 ][ shenning@cornell-iowa.edu ]
[_______http://wwwcsc.Cornell-Iowa.edu/~shenning/_______]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Big software companies coming back t
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 18 Mar 95 05:28:57 GMT
Message-ID: <1749576.19737.21609@kcbbs.gen.nz>
References: <1749575.72133.17336@kcbbs.gen.nz>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
In message <<1749575.72133.17336@kcbbs.gen.nz>> apl@kcbbs.gen.nz writes:
> > than the really big houses do. Rather they get my money.
> >
> > Luke
> >
>
> Although I haven't bought any of their products (yet), I'm really
> impressed with their speed and support in getting prices making
> suggestions. This help is worth far more than industrial standards;
>
> Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
Opps haven't spoken with lighthouse ^^^^^ just commenting about Xanthus
Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: Re: Looking for Tailor UUCP
Message-ID: <D5LtGx.3pn@RnA.NL>
Sender: news@RnA.NL
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <9503100104.AA11550@pud>
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 21:38:56 GMT
In article <9503100104.AA11550@pud> Peter Langston
<pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com> writes:
> A week ago, in <9503032015.AA01227@pud> I asked:
>
> > 1) Are other people using Taylor UUCP on NeXT and if so, has it been
> > an improvement?
> >
>
> > 2) Where can I find a copy of Taylor UUCP set up for NeXT?
>
> Many people replied "yes and yes" for question (1).
> Tom Hageman <tom@icgned.nl> replied, for question (2):
>
> The latest version of the NeGeN Taylor-UUCP (and CNews) packages will
> be uploaded to the "official" NeXT sites shortly.
>
> Thanks to all.
> ---------- Peter Langston -- psl@acm.org -- Seattle, WA ----------
To be precise, the announcement has been made and they can be found on
ftp.NL.net in the directory pub/comp/next.
You also find easy-install CNews and a CNews configuration app (in a tar.gz)
there.
From: ted@Aero.org (Theodore J. Bujewski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: next software catalogue
Date: 16 Mar 1995 20:31:08 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ka76c$57v@news.aero.org>
Keywords: catalogue
Can someone please tell me where I may get a catalogue
or listing of NeXT software which is available and where
I can by it? I cannot find any place which sells NeXT
software. Does NeXT or anyone else have a WWW page with
product information?
Please excuse me if this is a dumb question. This is my
first time posting to this group.
Thanks
Ted
From: olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca (B.Olav Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Astraloids
Date: 15 Mar 1995 00:38:48 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k5cuo$cfo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Keywords: astraloids
In article <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu
(Richard Beigel) writes:
>
> This game sounds great. But isn't it risky to download and run
> binaries? How do I know the game doesn't have a virus?
>
You Don't :-)
You Don't :-)
From: olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca (B.Olav Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Astraloids
Date: 15 Mar 1995 00:38:56 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k5cv0$cfq@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Keywords: astraloids
In article <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu
(Richard Beigel) writes:
>
> This game sounds great. But isn't it risky to download and run
> binaries? How do I know the game doesn't have a virus?
>
You Don't :-)
From: olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca (B.Olav Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Astraloids
Date: 15 Mar 1995 00:39:01 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3k5cv5$cfr@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Keywords: astraloids
In article <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu
(Richard Beigel) writes:
>
> This game sounds great. But isn't it risky to download and run
> binaries? How do I know the game doesn't have a virus?
>
You Don't :-)
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: how to produce xxx.addresses files?
Date: 19 Mar 1995 00:24:12 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Mar18192412@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <1995Mar16.193646.10298@mjw.octagon.de>
In-reply-to: mane@mjw.octagon.de's message of Thu, 16 Mar 1995 19:36:46 GMT
<mane@mjw.octagon.de> writes:
>Yes those files lying in ~Library/Adresses.
>No, not with the Workspace-Manager, but automatically from some
>address-managing-package.
Download Phone.app from hasc.ca. It's ten buck shareware, and does this,
amongst other neato things.
ftp://hasc.ca/pub/next/Phone-3.4.mihs.tar.gz
- db
--
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops. -- Veruca Salt -- Baldric, you
wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on
top of a harpsichord singing, "Subtle Plans Are Here Again" -- Atkinson --
The Lord loves a hanging, that's why he gave us necks! -- Hoek and Cat --
From: lwallyci@onramp.net (Leslie Connally)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: i'm a father..of a nre old baby black cube....
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 22:29:33 -0600
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <lwallyci-1803952229330001@dal16.onramp.net>
And I have NO IDEA what i'm doing! I bought it on a whim and would
appreciate Any And All Help!: Whos wheres whys hows. Where do I start and
where will it end!? Really though, I'm a Mac guy, and now own an old '030
cube, b/w monitor, broken keyboard, +/- 300 M HD (next formatted) a Laser
printer, a 230? M optical, no floppy, no CD and a borrowed NextStep s/w. I
appreciate the concept...but now I have to make it work and gulp..even Use
It! If any of you would bother, I'd be Very Grateful to you all!
Leslie Connally
lwallyci@onramp.net
(cros posted to .hardware, .misc, and .advocacy)
From: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Framemaker 5.0: When is it scheduled to be released?
Date: 19 Mar 1995 06:11:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3kghut$mro@agate.berkeley.edu>
Subject says it all--someone mentioned once they were going to support NeXTstep
again.
--
*******************************************************
Jessica L. Mosher
NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
--John Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netscape on X?
Date: 19 Mar 1995 06:12:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3kgi0c$mro@agate.berkeley.edu>
Has anyone successfully run Netscape on coXist, mouseX, or any of the other
X Windows programs?
--
*******************************************************
Jessica L. Mosher
NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
--John Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: tlee@vaxa.stevens-tech (Tung-Chieh Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: The proxy-supported www boweser for NS
Date: 19 Mar 1995 07:07:43 GMT
Organization: SUNet International
Message-ID: <3kgl7v$5cj@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Hey !
I am under my school's stupid firwall...but they
setup the proxy server for the Mosaic or Nescape or
some proxy-supported program.
Is any www boweser which is proxy supported for NeXT...
I found that OmiWeb seems not work with proxy !!
Thanks for answers....
Tony
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The proxy-supported www boweser for NS
Date: 19 Mar 1995 15:36:05 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3khj15$83@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3kgl7v$5cj@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>
tlee@vaxa.stevens-tech (Tung-Chieh Lee) writes:
>Hey !
> I am under my school's stupid firwall...but they
> setup the proxy server for the Mosaic or Nescape or
> some proxy-supported program.
> Is any www boweser which is proxy supported for NeXT...
> I found that OmiWeb seems not work with proxy !!
>Thanks for answers....
>Tony
Proxy works fine in OmniWeb.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-8833
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: ilg@imp.ch (Philippe Steindl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PPP Problems
Date: 19 Mar 1995 19:51:25 GMT
Organization: Improware AG, Fuellinsdorf, Switzerland
Message-ID: <3ki1vt$eih@armageddon.imp.ch>
Keywords: ppp
Hello,
I installed PPP (theBSD one on the next archives) and it runs, I only have
one problem: It's extremely slow, I guess because of shitty serial
drivers in NEXTSTEP (the prob never occured on linux, so I suspect
the serial drivers). I get those lines in /usr/adm/messages:
Mar 19 20:44:01 asdis mach: ppp0: bad frame checksum calculated... dropping packet
Mar 19 20:44:03 asdis mach: ttyscc1: receive error 2 (-902)
Mar 19 20:44:03 asdis last message repeated 78 times
Tons of them all the time. What can I do? Somebody supposed Mux,
but Mux doesn't work really well with a serial mouse, that I have to use.
Any other ideas? Maybe somebody at next?
Thanx
Philippe Steindl
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ghostscript 2.6_1 for NeXT?
Date: 19 Mar 1995 19:32:58 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3ki0ta$qk3@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Is there a version of ghostscript compiled for NS with gif support available
publically anywhere?
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University Voice: 416 736 5118
4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Documentation Generator]
Date: 19 Mar 1995 16:45:48 +0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznggzakhfttp@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
References: <1995Mar13.221041.434@il.us.swissbank.com> <D5G5oE.Ax5@lehman.com>
<3k7btq$d5e@news.xmission.com>
To: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
In-reply-to: kris@xmission.xmission.com's message of 15 Mar 1995 18:33:30 GMT
<kris@xmission.xmission.com> writes:
>That's because it isn't there.
>Would someone who knows where it is email me the location of this
>utility? I would find it quite useful in my line of work, but I don't
>have time to dig through fifteen archive sites....
>Once located, I'll put a copy on orst.
>.......................kris
>john safar (jsafar@lehman.com) wrote:
>: It doesn't seem like it is up there (not shown in the index!)
>: In article <1995Mar13.221041.434@il.us.swissbank.com>
>: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard) writes:
>: > About a year and a half ago there was a new app called
>: > ManPagesFromHeaders. It did a nice job of scanning the header files in
>: > your app and generating RTF pages in the style of the NeXT online docs.
>: > You still need to go back and flesh out the skeleton with verbiage, of
>: > course. I'm not sure this is the kind of app you're looking for, but if
>: > it is see if it's still available on ftp.cs.orst.edu somewhere.
>--
>Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I hope you're hungry. They're serving SPINY LOBEFISH in the commons area.
Obviously it costs money but I've found that PD versions of these
tools are far lacking in their ability to parse code. I think you will
find that ManPagesToHeaders will not grok a lot of legal code.
I'd strongly suggest you look at Sight-C-ing. it comes with a lot more
benefits besides.
--
"Mary had a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: gideon@black_albatross.otago.ac.nz (Gideon King)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: How good is MiniSQL?
Date: 19 Mar 1995 20:55:06 GMT
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, NZ
Message-ID: <3ki5na$21k@celebrian.otago.ac.nz>
References: <3jibucINNmql@gambier.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>
I have seen a number of people posting about MiniSQL, and have grabbed a
copy of it, but have not yet had a chance to play with it.
Is it stable? i.e. could I use a database created using it on a daily
basis for important work without crashes or fear of data loss?
Is it robust? What would happen if my application program crashed during
an add or update? Does it support transactions and rollback? Does it
support multiple users? I seem to recall something about serialising
multiple calls and feeding them to the database engine sequentially - is
this how it handles multiple users?
Is it fast? I am not too concerned about update speed (anythinng would be
better than what I've currently got), although, of course, the faster the
better, but can someone give me info on query speeds?
How easy is it to set up? I'd like info on using it with DBKit, EOF1.0,
and with the C-function interface.
Any information would be gladly received. Please email responses to me.
I'll summarise to the comp.sys.next.programmer newsgroup.
---
The Black Albatross
Gideon King | Phone +64-3-479 8347
University of Otago | Fax +64-3-479 8529
Department of Computer Science | e-mail gideon@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz
P.O. Box 56 | NeXT mail ok
Dunedin | When I argue with my wife, I always
New Zealand | have the last word --- "Yes dear".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: zgeng@nextear1.psych.umn.edu (Zhang Geng)
Subject: LaTeX2e
Message-ID: <D5pHuM.F3H@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 21:21:55 GMT
Could someone please tell me if there is any version of LaTeX2e run on
NeXT? I have the old LaTeX 2.09, which came with the NeXTStep Release 3.
Could someone tell me where I can find the new version LaTex2e for NeXT
and how to install it?
Thanks a lot in advance.
----Geng Zhang----
zgeng@nextear.psych.umn.edu
From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Documentation Generator]
Date: 20 Mar 1995 03:21:37 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3kisc1$hu4@news.xmission.com>
References: <1995Mar13.221041.434@il.us.swissbank.com> <D5G5oE.Ax5@lehman.com> <robertznggzakhfttp@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson (robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk) wrote:
: <kris@xmission.xmission.com> writes:
: >That's because it isn't there.
: >Would someone who knows where it is email me the location of this
: >utility? I would find it quite useful in my line of work, but I don't
: >have time to dig through fifteen archive sites....
: >Once located, I'll put a copy on orst.
: >.......................kris
: >john safar (jsafar@lehman.com) wrote:
: >: It doesn't seem like it is up there (not shown in the index!)
: >: In article <1995Mar13.221041.434@il.us.swissbank.com>
: >: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard) writes:
: >: > About a year and a half ago there was a new app called
: >: > ManPagesFromHeaders. It did a nice job of scanning the header files in
: >: > your app and generating RTF pages in the style of the NeXT online docs.
: >: > You still need to go back and flesh out the skeleton with verbiage, of
: >: > course. I'm not sure this is the kind of app you're looking for, but if
: >: > it is see if it's still available on ftp.cs.orst.edu somewhere.
: >--
: >Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
: >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: > I hope you're hungry. They're serving SPINY LOBEFISH in the commons area.
: Obviously it costs money but I've found that PD versions of these
: tools are far lacking in their ability to parse code. I think you will
: find that ManPagesToHeaders will not grok a lot of legal code.
: I'd strongly suggest you look at Sight-C-ing. it comes with a lot more
: benefits besides.
Well, I'd certainly like to find this out firsthand, rather than taking
someone's word for it.... (Not that I don't believe you :-)
My original request stands. Does someone have this PD app? If so, I will
make it available on orst, or hell, just keep it in the next archives at
xmission or even at thought.com....
--
Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I hope you're hungry. They're serving SPINY LOBEFISH in the commons area.
From: ed@titan.internetone.com (Ed DeBolt Jr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stuart.app for Intel???
Date: 20 Mar 1995 02:44:01 GMT
Organization: Internet One, Inc.
Message-ID: <3kiq5h$a3t@io.InternetOne.COM>
Keywords: stuart terminal intel
Is there a Stuart.app for Intel available? There only seems to be a
motorola version.
Thanks,
---------------------------------------------------------
Ed DeBolt, Jr Internet Engineer
303-444-1993 NeXT Mail/MIME
ed@InternetOne.COM
http://www.InternetOne.COM/
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Subject: playing .wav sounds?
Message-ID: <D5q1sH.MHE@marble.com>
Sender: news@marble.com
Organization: Marble Associates, Inc.
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 04:29:05 GMT
Anyone know of a NeXT app/service which can play sound files of
the .wav format type?
Thanks for any info,
Steve
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 20 Mar 1995 05:15:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3kj30s$d21@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
*** NEED INFORMATION ***
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
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Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
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next-nextstep-d
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
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Written by:
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Additions from:
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: [Documentation Generator]
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3kisc1$hu4@news.xmission.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 08:08:28 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Mar20.080828.26546@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3kisc1$hu4@news.xmission.com> kris@xmission.xmission.com
(Kristopher Magnusson) writes:
> Robert Nicholson (robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk) wrote:
> : I'd strongly suggest you look at Sight-C-ing. it comes with a lot more
> : benefits besides.
>
> Well, I'd certainly like to find this out firsthand, rather than taking
> someone's word for it.... (Not that I don't believe you :-)
>
> My original request stands. Does someone have this PD app? If so, I will
> make it available on orst, or hell, just keep it in the next archives at
> xmission or even at thought.com....
It isn't PD, and it's on orst (SIGHT-C-ING). I think Don has had some
problems getting the very latest version on orst, but an earlier release
was there last time I looked.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PPP Problems
Date: 20 Mar 1995 06:02:41 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3kj5q1$2b2@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <3ki1vt$eih@armageddon.imp.ch>
ilg@imp.ch (Philippe Steindl) wrote:
>Hello,
>I installed PPP (theBSD one on the next archives) and it runs, I only
have
>one problem: It's extremely slow, I guess because of shitty serial
>drivers in NEXTSTEP (the prob never occured on linux, so I suspect
>the serial drivers). I get those lines in /usr/adm/messages:
>Mar 19 20:44:01 asdis mach: ppp0: bad frame checksum calculated...
dropping packet
>Mar 19 20:44:03 asdis mach: ttyscc1: receive error 2 (-902)
>Mar 19 20:44:03 asdis last message repeated 78 times
>Tons of them all the time. What can I do? Somebody supposed Mux,
>but Mux doesn't work really well with a serial mouse, that I have to
use.
>Any other ideas? Maybe somebody at next?
> Thanx
> Philippe Steindl
Get ppp2.2 at:
ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/
far@earthlink.net
From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Font conversion
Date: 20 Mar 1995 10:56:24 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3kjn0o$qbm@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <9503172012.AA01698@hukatronic.cz>
Tomas Hurka writes
> The conversion can be done with pcATMfont2Next package available at least
> from ftp.cs.orst.edu. The package is actually a collection of utilities s
> the conversion must be done by hand. This is especially annoying when
> converting huge amount of such fonts. Therefore I wrote a small script to
> put all necessary utilities together to make the conversion a little easi
> when I did similar conversion from pfb format to NeXT format. If you are
> interested in my script, please, let me know. Before you ask, I must say
> am not expert on shell programming and I know almost nothing about PS fon
> but it works OK (at least for me) and saves me a lot of time.
The main problem at the moment is that these fonts have been supplied to us
without any corresponding .AFM files for them. Conequently it's proving
almost impossible to convert them.
It seems as if everything needs the .AFM files and I guess it's how they
should have been supplied to us.
-Paul-
--
Paul Civati, Xexos Ltd FYI it's 'sivarty' ;-) Work: paul@xexos.com
Bermondsey London UK http://www.xexos.com/ Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The proxy-supported www boweser for NS
Date: 19 Mar 1995 23:59:03 -0800
Organization: Cal Poly, State University
Message-ID: <3kjck7$j70@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>
References: <3kgl7v$5cj@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <3khj15$83@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste
In article <3khj15$83@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
David Lemson <lemson@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>tlee@vaxa.stevens-tech (Tung-Chieh Lee) writes:
>
>>Hey !
>> I am under my school's stupid firwall...but they
>> setup the proxy server for the Mosaic or Nescape or
>> some proxy-supported program.
>> Is any www boweser which is proxy supported for NeXT...
>> I found that OmiWeb seems not work with proxy !!
>>Thanks for answers....
>>Tony
>
>Proxy works fine in OmniWeb.
>--
>David Lemson (217) 244-8833
>University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
>Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
proxy? Is this a program? Where do I get it, and how does it work? Does
my host site have to support it or can I run something to let it work? So
many questions, so little time!
-Mont
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: how to produce xxx.addresses files?
Message-ID: <D5q2nt.4I8@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <1995Mar16.193646.10298@mjw.octagon.de> <SAMURAI.95Mar18192412@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 04:47:52 GMT
In article <SAMURAI.95Mar18192412@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
[ ]
>
>>Yes those files lying in ~Library/Adresses.
>>No, not with the Workspace-Manager, but automatically from some
>>address-managing-package.
>
>Download Phone.app from hasc.ca. It's ten buck shareware, and does this,
>amongst other neato things.
I have tried to figure this program out on several occasions. It seems neat
until I try to get it to do something! What am I missing? How would I get it
to dial a phone? Even entering an address seems complicated. I'm sure I am
overlooking something simple as it can't possibly be that hard! Reading docs
is a pain, and one should be able to dial the phone without reading a manual.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT/MIME Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep are nervous...]
From: chris@peseta.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tools for IconBuilder.app
Date: 20 Mar 1995 13:03:01 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <3kjue5$srv@taloa.unice.fr>
Keywords: icon builder
Hello. I saw that IconBuilder could load new tools (ptool or
pfilter bundles). So I'm looking for some of these tools and for
documentions to create this kind of tools.If you could help me, please
send e-mail at :
chris@doublon.unice.fr
Thanks.
-----------------------------------------------------------
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! !
! Institut Non Lineaire de Nice !
! UMR 129 - C.N.R.S. Universite de Nice Sophia Antipolis !
! 1361 route des lucioles - Sophia Antipolis - !
! 06560 Valbonne - France !
!---------------------------------------------------------!
! tel : 92.96.73.34 - fax 92.96.73.33 !
! e-mail : chris@doublon.unice.fr !
! (temp.) http://www-inln.unice.fr/~chris !
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ben@syd.au.swissbank.com (Ben "Donatello" Kelley)
Subject: Re: Netscape on X?
Message-ID: <1995Mar20.035532.19980@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: SBC Australia
References: <3kgi0c$mro@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 03:55:32 GMT
In article <3kgi0c$mro@agate.berkeley.edu>, cooncat@wombat.mills.edu (Jessica L Mosher) writes:
]Has anyone successfully run Netscape on coXist, mouseX, or any of the other
]X Windows programs?
]
]--
Yes!
I just tried netscape with coXist under NS 3.2 on m68k hardware. It seemed
fine - a little slower than on my Sun Sparc Classic, and some of the
fonts were a little jagged, but other than that OK.
- Ben Kelley.
--
::/ Another e-correspondence from Ben Kelley, Swiss Bank Corporation.
:/ +61 (0)2 258 2382 - Phone Mail
/ +61 (0)2 258 2400 - Fax Mail
ben@syd.au.swissbank.com - e-mail, MIME mail, NeXT mail, Braille mail, /
Morse code mail and Klingon mail. Oh, did I /:
o|<>=o.. <= what? say "Klingon"? Sorry, that was a joke. /::
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: how to produce xxx.addresses files?
Date: 20 Mar 1995 15:38:52 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Mar20103852@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <1995Mar16.193646.10298@mjw.octagon.de>
<SAMURAI.95Mar18192412@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
<D5q2nt.4I8@utstat.toronto.edu>
In-reply-to: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu's message of Mon, 20 Mar 1995 04:47:52 GMT
<phillip@utstat.toronto.edu> writes:
>In article <SAMURAI.95Mar18192412@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>[ ]
>>
>>>Yes those files lying in ~Library/Adresses.
>>>No, not with the Workspace-Manager, but automatically from some
>>>address-managing-package.
>>
>>Download Phone.app from hasc.ca. It's ten buck shareware, and does this,
>>amongst other neato things.
>I have tried to figure this program out on several occasions. It seems neat
>until I try to get it to do something! What am I missing? How would I get it
>to dial a phone? Even entering an address seems complicated. I'm sure I am
>overlooking something simple as it can't possibly be that hard! Reading docs
>is a pain, and one should be able to dial the phone without reading a manual.
Here's a short guide on how to use it:
(1) Create a new document: Command-n, or "New" from the document menu.
(2) If you want to create ".addresses" documents, you have to choose
"New .addresses Format" from the document menu. The reason being
that Phone's native format is structure-free. Once you have a document
up though, Phone operates the same way for everything.
(3) When you want to insert a new record, you choose "Insert" from the
"Record" menu.
(4) If you want to modify an existing record, you choose "Modify" from
the "Record" menu.
(5) If you want to dial the phone, click the little phone icons that
show up next to phone numbers. If you want to send email, click the
little email buttons that show up next to email addresses. If you want
to chase a URL, click the little W3 icon that shows up next to URLs.
(6) You can configure Phone to dial via the PC speaker, or via a modem,
or by pulse rather than tone (for modems only) via preferences.
It's rather simple. Just be sure that you have version 3.4.
- db
--
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops. -- Veruca Salt -- Baldric, you
wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on
top of a harpsichord singing, "Subtle Plans Are Here Again" -- Atkinson --
The Lord loves a hanging, that's why he gave us necks! -- Hoek and Cat --
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "straight C debugger
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 14:54:27 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950320145427.278AACUN.malc@daneel>
References: <950307203846.282AACUR.malc@daneel> <D5DqGz.Ey8@madge1.demon.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> um, gdb/Edit.app??? What extra are you looking for?
>
Good question; and one that I have put to the chap who asked me...
The best answer I have so far is:
> I guess being able to keep the overview while debugging is the most
> strong argument for buying SuperDebugger.
>
Views from anyone wishing to sing the praises of Edit/gdb welcome...
as are opposing opinions!
Since news seems to be seriously messed up at the moment, email would be
appreciated. <sigh>
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does NS/Sparc works in SUN Sparc IPX
Date: 20 Mar 1995 18:32:23 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <3kkhnn$6pl@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Does anybody have tried to install the beta in SUN Sparc IPX?
Mark
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTeX2e
Date: 20 Mar 1995 18:34:08 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <3kkhr0$6qt@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <D5pHuM.F3H@news.cis.umn.edu>
In article <D5pHuM.F3H@news.cis.umn.edu> zgeng@nextear1.psych.umn.edu
(Zhang Geng) writes:
>
> Could someone please tell me if there is any version of LaTeX2e run on
> NeXT? I have the old LaTeX 2.09, which came with the NeXTStep Release
3.
> Could someone tell me where I can find the new version LaTex2e for NeXT
> and how to install it?
You have to do it yourself, or you can try
ftp://ftp.edu.tw/TeX/Latex2e.tar.gz
NeXTSTEP for Intel only, please read the README first.
Mark
Taiwan NeXT User Group
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Possible bug with Omniweb????
Date: 20 Mar 1995 17:59:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3kkfpf$khn@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
References: <3kk37n$a0m@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
In article <3kk37n$a0m@wave.aoml.erl.gov> bakker@fsu_1 (Cary A. Bakker) writes:
]
]
] The url:
]
] ftp://ftp.ssec.wisc.edu/gopher/gsdc.d/realtime-8.d/G8WV.GI
] F
]
] seems to be giving us some trouble. The HTML source seems
] to be ok, but when you try to download the gif, Omniweb
] will keep opening more and more copies of the file.
] To test it out, go to the directory the files are in:
]
] ftp://ftp.ssec.wisc.edu/gopher/gsdc.d/realtime-8.d/
]
] and click on any of the images...
] Has anyone else noticed anything else like this? Is it a
] bug?
]
Yes! Any time I retrieve a file by highlighting its URL and invoking OmniWeb
from Services, I get at least three calls to 'open' by Omniweb, which on my
machine creates three uncompressed/untarred copies of the file generated by
Opener.app. Quite a pain when the file is huge!
Also, OmniWeb does not clean up after itself -- /tmp/OmniWeb is a directory
which gets filled with subdirs from all your sessions which did downloads --
and it never gets removed by OmniWeb!
--
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Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://www.ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: PPP Problems
In-Reply-To: root@terra's message of 20 Mar 1995 06:02:41 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Mar20110913@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3ki1vt$eih@armageddon.imp.ch> <3kj5q1$2b2@mars.earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:09:13 GMT
>>>>> "Operator" == Operator <root@terra> writes:
Operator> ilg@imp.ch (Philippe Steindl) wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I installed PPP (theBSD one on the next archives) and it runs,
>> I only
Operator> have
>> one problem: It's extremely slow, I guess because of shitty
>> serial drivers in NEXTSTEP (the prob never occured on linux, so
>> I suspect the serial drivers). I get those lines in
>> /usr/adm/messages:
>> Mar 19 20:44:01 asdis mach: ppp0: bad frame checksum
>> calculated...
Operator> dropping packet
>> Mar 19 20:44:03 asdis mach: ttyscc1: receive error 2 (-902) Mar
>> 19 20:44:03 asdis last message repeated 78 times
>> Tons of them all the time. What can I do? Somebody supposed
>> Mux, but Mux doesn't work really well with a serial mouse, that
>> I have to
Operator> use.
>> Any other ideas? Maybe somebody at next?
>> Thanx
>> Philippe Steindl
Operator> Get ppp2.2 at:
Operator> ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/
Operator> far@earthlink.net
I get the same kind of messages with ppp2.2. I am trying to
see what goes wrong with Stephen Perkins (maker of ppp2.2)
Francois Magnan
--
______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: mccollam@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Donald E McCollam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FrameMaker Question
Date: 20 Mar 1995 03:20:36 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <3kisa4$18f6@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
Hi. I have FrameMaker on my Cube. What I'm trying to do is get paragraphs
to align in two, independent, side-by-side columns:
Paragraph 1.1 Paragraph 2.1 blah blah
blah blah, etc
Paragraph 1.2 blah, blah Paragraph 2.2
blah blah, etc
Paragraph 1.3 Paragraph 2.3
and so on (paragraph 1.n is always aligned with paragraph 2.n). Of course,
I can't predict, in advance, how many "lines" may comprize any particular
paragraph.. Any ideas on how to do this? I've rtfm.
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: jimbag@sentex.net ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Back to Basics
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 00:14:40 -0500 (EST)
Organization: Sentex Communications Corporation.
Message-ID: <3kj4db$500@granite.sentex.net>
Hoping someone knows of a QuickBasic compatible interpreter/compiler
for Intel Next platform?
Thanks for any help.
From: bakker@fsu_1 (Cary A. Bakker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Possible bug with Omniweb????
Date: 20 Mar 1995 14:24:55 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3kk37n$a0m@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
The url:
ftp://ftp.ssec.wisc.edu/gopher/gsdc.d/realtime-8.d/G8WV.GI
F
seems to be giving us some trouble. The HTML source seems
to be ok, but when you try to download the gif, Omniweb
will keep opening more and more copies of the file.
To test it out, go to the directory the files are in:
ftp://ftp.ssec.wisc.edu/gopher/gsdc.d/realtime-8.d/
and click on any of the images...
Has anyone else noticed anything else like this? Is it a
bug?
Thanks,
Cary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Reading Windows-HLP-files
Message-ID: <1995Mar20.130638.432@gamelan.shnet.org>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 13:06:38 GMT
Is there any tool (PD) which can convert MS-Windows help files into
something a NeXT or Unix (X11) machine can read/print ? Of course I'm not
interested in SoftPC .
Any pointers appreciated !
--
----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.shnet.org -----
C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Font conversion
Date: 20 Mar 1995 11:52:03 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503201745.AA00563@hukatronic.cz>
References: <3kjn0o$qbm@xexos.xexos.com>
In comp.sys.next.software article <3kjn0o$qbm@xexos.xexos.com> Paul Civati wrote:
[stuff deleted]
> The main problem at the moment is that these fonts have been supplied to us
> without any corresponding .AFM files for them. Conequently it's proving
> almost impossible to convert them.
This is not problem. The part of the mentioned pcATMfont2Next package is
the PostScript program getmetric.ps, which can extract font metric
information from a font file. The output of the getmetric.ps is not directly
usable as .afm file, but after some cosmetics changes I was able to use it.
So basically you only need .pfb file to produce correct NeXT font.
Hope it helps you.
Best regards,
--
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
From: ibhan@fas.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: Screenshots
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 01:39:57 -0500
Organization: Harvard University
Message-ID: <ibhan-1903950139570001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu>
I'm interested in getting some screenshots of NeXTSTEP. Can anyone point
me in the right direction?
E-mail is fine, but I don't have NeXTMAIL.
--
Ishir Bhan
ibhan@fas.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.org/ibhan/
------
"There's always a party on the Net"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank)
Subject: NS on Sparcs
Organization: Motorola Satellite Communications
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:01:56 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar20.160156.23826@schbbs.mot.com>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (SCHBBS News Account)
Does anyone know how Nextstep will operate on Sparc stations?
Will I still be able to run my old Sun applications? Will I have
to reboot into the Sun software, etc.?
- Thanks, Mark
p25231@email.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: bmarchan@quest.fdn.org (Benoit Marchant)
Subject: Does DoomII exist for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1995Mar20.174429.17707@quest.fdn.org>
Keywords: Doom II
Sender: news@quest.fdn.org
Organization: Quest International / Unilever - Neuilly, France
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 17:44:29 GMT
Does someone know wether Doom II is availlable for NeXTSTEP or not and
where it could be found if it exists ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank)
Subject: Running OpenWindows on Sparc with NS
Organization: Motorola Satellite Communications
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 00:28:20 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar21.002820.5743@schbbs.mot.com>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (SCHBBS News Account)
Does anyone know if I'll still be able to run all of
my native Sun applications with NS loaded on my Sparc?
Or will I have to reboot between the two operating systems?
- Thanks, Mark
p25231@email.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Subject: Compiling Resound.app on NS 3.x?
Message-ID: <D5qsMx.1Hx@marble.com>
Sender: news@marble.com
Organization: Marble Associates, Inc.
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 14:08:56 GMT
Has anyone gotten the Resound.app to compile in NS 3.x?
--
Steve Dekorte
NeXTstep/Objective-C developer
dekorte@symnet.net (NeXTmail welcome)
http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Font conversion
Date: 21 Mar 1995 12:24:45 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3kmgid$9au@xexos.xexos.com>
References: <9503201745.AA00563@hukatronic.cz>
Tomas Hurka writes
> This is not problem. The part of the mentioned pcATMfont2Next package is
> the PostScript program getmetric.ps, which can extract font metric
> information from a font file. The output of the getmetric.ps is not direc
> usable as .afm file, but after some cosmetics changes I was able to use i
> So basically you only need .pfb file to produce correct NeXT font.
The getmetric.ps looks like it'll do the job, do you know how I go about
using it to do the conversion?
I thought .ps files were just like normal text but 'in postscript format',
I didn't know they could be programs.
> Hope it helps you.
Getting there yes, thanks.
-Paul-
--
Paul Civati, Xexos Ltd FYI it's 'sivarty' ;-) Work: paul@xexos.com
Bermondsey London UK http://www.xexos.com/ Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk
From: trunz@inf.ethz.ch (Paul Martin Trunz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Font conversion
Date: 21 Mar 1995 15:44:58 +0100
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3kmopa$ph9@brain11.inf.ethz.ch>
References: <9503201745.AA00563@hukatronic.cz> <3kmgid$9au@xexos.xexos.com>
In article <3kmgid$9au@xexos.xexos.com>, Paul Civati <paul@xexos.com> wrote:
>I thought .ps files were just like normal text but 'in postscript format',
>I didn't know they could be programs.
Hmmh, maybe we have to change our view of text.
Basically *every* file in a computer is a program!
It just depends on the interpreter. The same program may also be interpreted
by different programs. Edit will use a file as input and interpret it
to show some black and white pixels on the screen. gcc will take the same
file and produce some fancy executable (another interpreter in this
terminology) if lucky, or an error message usually ;-).
We could even go further and say that every *text*, not even considering
the format (handwritten, printed, computer ...), is a program.
Its just that sometimes there are only few interpreters
(e.g. my handwriting :-)
My boss gave an introductory course to programming, he said that a program
*is* a text. Maybe that should read the other way round!
Just a thought from
Patru
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fred@object-factory.fr (Frederic PRALONG)
Subject: NXfax and UsRobotics V34
Message-ID: <1995Mar21.141144.11196@wicket.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@wicket.fdn.fr
Organization: THE OBJECT FACTORY - Bagnolet - France
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 14:11:44 GMT
Has someone try to connect Nxfax with a UsRobotics V34 (and classe2) modem
?
FReD
--
Frederic Pralong Paris France
The Object Factory
17/25 rue Charles Graindorge
93170 Bagnolet France
e-mail : frederic_pralong@object-factory.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: Possible bug with Omniweb????
Message-ID: <D5sq0L.Juy@bldrdoc.gov>
Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
References: <3kk37n$a0m@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 15:07:32 GMT
Cary A. Bakker writes
> The HTML source seems
> to be ok, but when you try to download the gif, Omniweb
> will keep opening more and more copies of the file.
OW does this with more than just gifs. When I downloaded the latest
version from Lighthouse, it tried to download it repeatedly.
-E
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: tg@isye.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for medical office software
Date: 23 Mar 1995 10:54:31 GMT
Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3krk17$kk9@mordred.gatech.edu>
Greetings,
I am looking for medical billing software capable of handling electronic
claims filing (and probably the "complete" EDI implementation). I am
trying to locate something suitable for my brother-in-law's office which
is currently using Medical Manager (TM) (on 486 machines running SCO Unix).
As a long time NeXT advocate and user (using old cubes and waiting for
OpenStep on Sparc), I would like to see NEXTSTEP-based systems used in
places where I have some influence. The medical office software I am
looking for should have:
complete billing and Medicare electronic filing
ability to read Medical Manager files, if possible
extensible and usable in a networked environment (1 to 10 stations)
I remember seeing over the net some physician from Florida and/or Hawaii
developing/selling (or at least using) such systems, but cannot locate
the information. (I cannot connect to the stepwise server for some reason
to browse for information.)
If you have any information on medical billing software, please contact
me by e-mail (tg@isye.gatech.edu). Thank you very much.
govind
T. Govindaraj +1 404 894 3873, 894 2301 (fax) NeXTmail welcome.
ISyE-0205, Georgia Tech, 765 Ferst Drive, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205, USA.
Member, League for Programming Freedom (Info from: lpf@uunet.uu.net)
http://isye.gatech.edu/~tg/index.html
From: rro@athis.gttw.com (Ron Ohmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does any one
Date: 23 Mar 1995 23:16:35 GMT
Organization: Jax Gateway to the World
Message-ID: <3ksvgj$c1j@news.gttw.com>
Know of an X package that will work with a NeXT Dimension board?
Thanks, and please reply in email..
Ron
From: btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing WriteNow document
Date: 24 Mar 1995 20:26:17 -0600
Organization: Otherwise
Message-ID: <3kvv09$m5a@ivy.bga.com>
References: <bbutlerD5yM6q.DHs@netcom.com>
In article <bbutlerD5yM6q.DHs@netcom.com>,
Bryan Butler <bbutler@netcom.com> wrote:
>I have a document that was created in WriteNow for Next. I want to print
>it, but I only have a demo copy of WN (which came installed on my NS2.1
>station) that lets me look at the document, but not print it. Is there
>a conversion program to convert it to Word or WordPerfect format? I have
>Word 5 and Word 6 on a Mac that I can use to print it if I can get it
>converted.
>
>--
>-------
>Bryan Butler
>bbutler@netcom.com
The file format of WriteNow for NeXT is the same as WriteNow on
Macintosh (actually I think the Mac version has evolved, but it should
be able to read the old version). So perhaps you can get it to a Mac
to print.
Barring that there is a wn-rtf filter that converts the doc to rtf.
Unfortunately you will probably lose some formatting along the way.
The filter is in the WrriteNow.app wrapper. You invoke it as:
wn-rtf <somefile.wn >somefile.rtf
Good luck.
Bill Tschumy | Posting news to thousands of machines
Otherwise | throughout the entire civilized world.
bill@otherwise.com | Costing the net hundreds if not thousands
(NeXTmail and MIME accepted) | of dollars to send everywhere.
From: naj@fraxinus.fast.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: postscript to html maybe?
Date: 25 Mar 1995 02:59:44 GMT
Organization: You Tools / FASTNET(tm) Corporation
Message-ID: <3l00v1$9rv@nn.fast.net>
The problem: I have a whole series of formatted files, 5 years worth, in a
variety of formats, from plain ascii, to *.wn, *.wp, *.rtf, *.pub (that's
PasteUp), *.ps, all of which I'd like to convert to HTML. Since it's trivial to
convert all to PostScript on NeXTStep, the logical thing to do would be to pump
all through a Postscript-to-html converter.
Wish it were that easy. The obvious solution, the ps2html scripts (both version
2 and `classic') require the ghostscript interpreter. Big whoop, you say? Ok,
but since I couldn't find a compiled version on the archives, it's try to
compile it myself. But wait, you need all the x-windows libs to compile it,
and, well, just deeper and deeper it gets.
Workaround using pslpr for gs? Not that I could figure. How about that infinite
ps reader, Tailor? Nope. Go back to Glenn Reid's original distiller.ps code (on
which ps2html is based)? Sorry, that causes Tailor to hang, and code sent to
lpr just disappears. Isn't there a simple solution to this? Am I really asking
for all that much? Do I really have to write some vast sed/perl script? Hasn't
somebody already invented this wheel?
Thanx,
Naj.
--
M. `Naj' Najarian <<clever epigram goes here>>
Fraxinus Research Services vox (hah!): 610.756.6888
P.O. Box 65 fax/data: 610.756.6400
Kutztown, PA 19530 USA ee: fraxinus@fast.net (MIME, NeXT, whatever)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: Re: Printing WriteNow document
Message-ID: <D5z55n.FMt@athena.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
References: <bbutlerD5yM6q.DHs@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 02:20:10 GMT
In article <bbutlerD5yM6q.DHs@netcom.com> bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan
Butler) writes:
> I have a document that was created in WriteNow for Next. I want to
print
> it, but I only have a demo copy of WN (which came installed on my
NS2.1
> station) that lets me look at the document, but not print it. Is there
> a conversion program to convert it to Word or WordPerfect format? I
have
> Word 5 and Word 6 on a Mac that I can use to print it if I can get it
> converted.
copy and paste to Edit, then transfer ascii to word...
a.
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Date: 25 Mar 1995 02:42:01 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Mar24214201@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3kva6n$5hh@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In-reply-to: takken@raven.stanford.edu's message of 24 Mar 1995 20:31:19 GMT
<takken@raven.stanford.edu> writes:
>Here is a letter I sent to NeXT's marketing department. Since I haven't
>heard any response, I'm now posting it to the net.
>-- Todd Takken
>takken@jumpjibe.stanford.edu
>Dear Sirs:
> I am abandoning NextStep because you have priced your operating
>system out of the reach of private individuals and small-time software
>developers.
Which brings to mind the new NEXTSTEP slogan:
"UNIX for wealthy mortals." ;-).
Sorry to see you go.
- db
--
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops. -- Veruca Salt -- Baldric, you
wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on
top of a harpsichord singing, "Subtle Plans Are Here Again" -- Atkinson --
The Lord loves a hanging, that's why he gave us necks! -- Hoek and Cat --
From: boom@cais.com (erik scheirer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help needed with setting up NeXTMail
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 16:42:29 EST
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service (CAIS)
Message-ID: <boom.11.0164C155@cais.com>
Keywords: PPP NeXTMail help
does anyone have any recommendations to someone who is so totally
brand-spanking new to the whole NeXTMail thing and PPP that he can barely
spell it?
i am trying to find a free/shareware PPP thingy, and want to set up NMail as
soon as possible!
thanks for anything you can help me with.
erik
boom@sonyx.com
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does NS/Sparc works in SUN Sparc IPX
Date: 25 Mar 1995 09:57:27 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertzng9y8psnnfm@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3kkhnn$6pl@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
In-reply-to: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw's message of 20 Mar 1995 18:32:23 GMT
To: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
<mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw> writes:
>Does anybody have tried to install the beta in SUN Sparc IPX?
>Mark
Well I believe NS/Sparc is only certified to work on a SPARC 5 and
above. I've got a SPARC 2 and I don't think I can use this as a NS
machine in the future.
--
"Mary had a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mSQL 1.05 Adaptor at ftp.cs.orst.edu
Date: 24 Mar 95 07:41:10 EST
Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <1995Mar24.074110.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
I've just uploaded an adaptor that works (so far) with mSQL 1.05. It was
basically a recompile using the updated msql.h. Thanks to Faizel Dakri for
helping with the testing.
And now my plea for help - I'm still unable to send a saveChanges: message with
success (either directly from IB or manually coded). The problem seems to be
unique to me and not to the adaptor. If anyone can help me out with this, I'd
really apprecaite it.
(Details: I'm just trying to issue a saveChanges: message. I'm using the
'test' database created by msql when testing the system after install.
DBModeler created the model file without a problem, and items such as
fetchAllRecords: works, as well as insertRecord:, appendRecord:, prev and next.
A DBTableView shows me all the data properly, and linked fields work too. Any
ideas?)
Scott
Scott Davenport / sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu / NeXTMail OK!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: lsof does not print on HPPA
Message-ID: <1995Mar24.212720.2013@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 21:27:20 GMT
I just get the latest CERT lsof_3.13 from the archives.
It compiles fat (m68k and hppa).
It does work on m68k (NS 3.3) and print nothing on hppa (NS 3.2).
Any clues?
Quote from lsof 3.13 README
> NeXTSTEP 2.1, 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2
> ==============================
>
> Virtual memory header files that allow lsof to display text
> references were derived from the contents of /usr/include/vm
> of NeXTSTEP 2.0. NeXT did not ship the virtual memory header
> files with NeXTSTEP 3.1 or 3.2.
>
> The NeXTSTEP revision of lsof 3 has been tested on NeXT
> hardware and PC's.
>
> Stuart Staniford-Chen <stanifor@cs.ucdavis.edu> reports that
> lsof 3 builds and works under NeXTSTEP 3.0.
>
> Andreas Stolcke <stolcke@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU> reports that lsof
> 3.09 builds and works under NeXTSTEP 2.1, if
> ``-DKERNEL_FEATURES'' is added to the compiler flags in the
> Makefile.
>
BTW why does NeXT stops shipping the virtual memory header
/usr/include/vm
Thanks
Fabien
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From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X in a window
Date: 24 Mar 1995 12:58:34 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3kuflq$7i@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Hi,
what X-Environments are available for next which run X in a
NS window? Which are commercail products & which are PD?
Thanx Otto
From: davew@clavius.velocity.com (David M Wesley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer ... how to only read subscribed groups?
Date: 24 Mar 1995 18:24:36 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Regional Network
Message-ID: <3kv2p4$f2g@cedar.mr.net>
References: <3ktbru$ehh@nova.voicenet.com>
In article <3ktbru$ehh@nova.voicenet.com> root@dehli.voicenet.com writes:
>
> I am using Newsgrazer over a 28.8 PPP connection....it takes awhile to
read
> in all the new goups...etc how can I just read the groups taht
> I subscribe to??
>
> Like in TIN, it is tin -r -n -q
>
> Anybody know any ideas, or know of another NEWS reader that allows on to
do
> this?
>
> Darren
> dwright@voicenet.com
Try using the list view. Then you will only be able to see the subscribed
groups.
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How can I link Mathematica notebooks in OmniWeb?
Date: 24 Mar 1995 21:16:42 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3kvcrq$c7p@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <3kv0do$mml@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <3kv0do$mml@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu
(Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
|For example I want OmniWeb to recognize that it should launch
|Mathematica when it sees a file with .ma extension.
|
If you open up the OmniWeb.app wrapper, you'll find a file called
content.list, which starts,
application/oda oda
application/pdf pdf
application/postscript ps
application/rtf rtf
application/x-dvi dvi
application/x-eprint tex
application/x-eprint-tar tar
application/x-rtf rtf
application/x-tar tar
application/x-tex tex
application/x-texinfo texinfo
...
looks like .mime.types to me!
Try adding:
application/mathematica ma
I don't know if OmniWeb is completely driven by the contents of this file.
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From: u40jdp1@cs.niu.edu (James Phelps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Remote display of X clients and PPP
Date: 24 Mar 1995 16:28:27 -0600
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Message-ID: <3kvh2b$j53@mp.cs.niu.edu>
I'm running 3.3/3.2 with PPP2.2 connecting to another NeXT and
at other times to a SPARC 2, via a PPP provider. When I attempt
to remotely display the client by using the IP address assigned my
remote machine by the PPP provider, with a ":0" attached, X can't seem
to access the remote window. I'm not so surprised but do not know
enough to fix this, apparently.
Also interested in NXHosting through PPP. One suggestion found
amongst the PPP software didn't work out. I believe the author said
things were different for 3.3 (maybe 3.2 as well).
Thanks.
-James Phelps, Director
Computer Music Studios
School of Music
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115
preferred: jphelps@nicemusic2.music.niu.edu
From: dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Command-line Image Manipulation Utility
Date: 25 Mar 1995 09:52:56 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l0p5o$tgf@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Keywords: image processing, popi, utility
Does anyone know of a NEXTSTEP command line utility/program that
converts TIFF images data to new image depths, and can perform
arbitrary filtering operations on source images? The libtiff library
doesn't seem to handle general image manipulation/processing -- just
conversion to different image formats.
Something like the SW? X11 version of "popi" but can display images
under NEXTSTEP instead of X. ComposeInColor has a popi interpreter
built in -- which is kind of nice -- but is there a PD/SW version for
NEXTSTEP or something similar to popi?
Dale
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From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Command line Workspace uncompress?
Date: 25 Mar 1995 11:47:33 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3l0vsl$ila@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3krhq8$5du@xexos.xexos.com>
Paul Civati (paul@xexos.com) wrote:
: Say I have a file compressed via File->Compress in Workspace.
: Is there a way to uncompress the file from the command line, rather than
: having to do it from the Workspace?
: -Paul-
Sure, just 'uncompress file' in the command line :-)
The filename must end with '.Z' If you receive a 'tar' then (tape
archive) then you get your data out of this with
tar -xvf filename.tar
Otto
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette A. Williams)
Subject: OmniWeb Question
Message-ID: <1995Mar24.161344.27657@leo.vsla.edu>
Organization: Virginia State Library
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 16:13:44 GMT
I have a question concerning OmniWeb. Is there a way that you
can "turn off" the box on the top of the screen, where you
enter in an HTTP address? The reason I ask is that we have a
situation in which we would not want our users to access
anything that doesn't originate from our home page. I realize
that users can get "out" onto the Web through our home page,
through the links that have been created there, but we don't
want them to have access to the HTTP box.
IMO, it seems to defeat the purpose of the browser, but I
thought I'd ask anyway.
Any comments, discussion? :)
Thanks!
Lucette
lawillia@leo.vsla.edu
The Library of Virginia
Richmond, VA
From: peter@nextlectic (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mutiple PNI dialups
Date: 25 Mar 1995 15:22:57 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <3l1cgi$71f@sundog.tiac.net>
Someone posted modifications to PNI so that multiple sevice providers
could be called. Have these been put on orst or anywhere else? I can't
seem to find them.
thanx,
-peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: BIG Problems with SLIP
Message-ID: <D5z0JF.2vD@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 00:40:26 GMT
Hello there,
I have a very big problem, stealing my time for now 4 weeks
and I still have no answer to my questions.
I do have a little network at home with 2 Macs and 2 nextcubes
running as a Non-NeXT-Network. from a NeXTcube with the IP-Number
192.42.172.1, I have installed Louis A. Mamakos SLIP-package to have
access to the internet to use ftp, telnet, OMNIWeb and all this nice
stuff. The IP-Number for the SLIP-remote is 193.141.69.1. my SLIP
adress is 193.141.69.243.
If I PING to any machine outside my net, or using telnet or ftp
with the IP-Number of the box, I wanna contact to, it works without
any problems. NSLOOKUP, traceroute an netstat -r ends with a
very long timeout and doesn t give me the result, I normally
would expect. As the docs tell me to select not to
"Bind to network NetInfo server" but "Use local domain only" with
a checkmark in "Readable only by local net", I am not able
to talk to any machine outside my net using names.
Before starting /usr/dialupip/config/rc.slip, nslookup tells me,
that the nameserver is not respondig, netstat -r works correct
until the time I install the slip-configuration. If I then
start nslookup, the modem starts and makes a connection to my
Internet-Provider, but it doesn t goe ahead with the work.
I tested several configurations of /etc/hostconfig and /etc/resolf.con,
but I am not able to fix the problem.
It would be nice, if some of guys could help me.
this is my hostconfig:
HOSTNAME=muaddib
INETADDR=192.42.172.1
ROUTER=-NO-
IPNETMASK=255.255.255.240
IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC-
NETMASTER=-NO-
YPDOMAIN=-NO-
TIME=-AUTOMATIC-
and this the config.slip-file
# SLIPxDEFAULT
# default route? Should be set to YES or NO
# ------------------------------ slip0
SLIP0LOCAL=193.141.69.243
SLIP0REMOTE=193.141.69.1
SLIP0NETMASK=255.255.255.0
#SLIP0CONFIG=SLIP
SLIP0CONFIG=CSLIP
SLIP0DEFAULT=YES
resolv.conf
domain m.isar.de
nameserver 193.141.69.1
Nice Greetings from Munich
mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Command line Workspace uncompress?
Message-ID: <D5z8zJ.546@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <3ktk1f$d0@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 03:42:55 GMT
Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes
> gnutar -xvzpf somefile.compressed ; rm somefile.compressed
> will give you a VERY close approximateion of Workspace uncompress.
an even closer approximation, and a MUCH SAFER one is:
gnutar -xvzpf somefile.compressed && rm somefile.compressed
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@genoa.com NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer ... how to only read subscribed groups?
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3kv2p4$f2g@cedar.mr.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 14:58:05 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Mar25.145805.17920@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3kv2p4$f2g@cedar.mr.net> davew@clavius.velocity.com (David M
Wesley) writes:
> In article <3ktbru$ehh@nova.voicenet.com> root@dehli.voicenet.com
writes:
> >
> > I am using Newsgrazer over a 28.8 PPP connection....it takes awhile to
> read
> > in all the new goups...etc how can I just read the groups taht
> > I subscribe to??
> >
> > Like in TIN, it is tin -r -n -q
> >
> > Anybody know any ideas, or know of another NEWS reader that allows on
to
> do
> > this?
>
> Try using the list view. Then you will only be able to see the
subscribed
> groups.
Yes, but it still reads the entire active list.
Paul
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Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How can I link Mathematica notebooks in OmniWeb?
Date: 24 Mar 1995 17:44:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3kv0do$mml@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
How do I select mime-types in OmniWeb?
For example I want OmniWeb to recognize that it should launch
Mathematica when it sees a file with .ma extension.
Under Mosaic you would put that information into a .mailcap
and .mime.types file.
--
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Center for Complex Systems Research, Beckman Institute, Physics Dept. UIUC
405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801,gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu, gmk@igc.apc.org,
gmk@santafe.edu, (217)-244-5877(voice/fax1),x8371(fax2), x1994 (msg)
URLs: http://www.ccsr.uiuc.edu/~gmk/, ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/gmk
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Question
Date: 24 Mar 1995 17:59:02 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <3kv197$shp@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <1995Mar24.161344.27657@leo.vsla.edu>
Lucette A. Williams writes
> I have a question concerning OmniWeb. Is there a way that you
> can "turn off" the box on the top of the screen, where you
> enter in an HTTP address? The reason I ask is that we have a
> situation in which we would not want our users to access
> anything that doesn't originate from our home page. I realize
> that users can get "out" onto the Web through our home page,
> through the links that have been created there, but we don't
> want them to have access to the HTTP box.
>
If you have NeXT Developer you could manage this by opening the application and
editing the NIB files. You can disable the text field. You should also
disable some menu items for opening URLs. You should disable the OmniWeb
services (you'll have to hunt around a little to find the file).
Unfortunately, a user would still be able to open a .html file, and if that
contains external links, go wild with it.
--
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Howard Ship hship@cac.stratus.com `84 GPz 750
"I lurk not, neither do I flame." [NeXT Mail 3.3 / MIME Mail OK]
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Question
Date: 24 Mar 1995 18:45:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3kv40r$bsq@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1995Mar24.161344.27657@leo.vsla.edu>
In article <1995Mar24.161344.27657@leo.vsla.edu> lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette
A. Williams) writes:
>>
>> IMO, it seems to defeat the purpose of the browser, but I
>> thought I'd ask anyway.
>>
>> Any comments, discussion? :)
Just take the keyboard away.
>>
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_________________________________________________________________________
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http://ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is MUX??
Date: 25 Mar 1995 10:40:57 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l0rvp$1b9@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3ktvgt$lc4@agate.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3ktvgt$lc4@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu
(Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
}~ In article <MAGNAN.95Mar23205709@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
}~ magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes:
}~ >>
}~ >> What is MUX? Hardware software or both. What is it for?
}~
}~ hmm.. a MUX is a multiplexer ... which selects the input
}~ based on a selector enable.
}~
And that is the basis of the use of the word most often, with
regards to NEXTSTEP. The 'Mux8' serial port driver handles a multi-
serial board - OR - individual serial ports, or both. It is an add-
on for NEXTSTEP-Intel, 3rd party Freeware, and by all reports is
significantly better than the serial port kernel code that is built
in with NEXTSTEP-Intel.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
Homepage under construction <URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/>
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Epitome Inc. What Gives??
Date: 24 Mar 1995 19:07:45 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Message-ID: <3kv5a1$7ej@adam.cc.sunysb.edu>
Does anybody know what the scoop is with Al Johnson and Epitome Inc.,
makers of RedMark/RedView, the document mark-up software??
We have their phone #, their fax number, and their email address. We have
serious support questions and we've tried hailing them on all frequencies.
The helmsman reports: "No response keptin".
Are they out of business, or simply cloaked?
-Richard Larson
From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can you play a wav file in a NeXT?
Date: 25 Mar 1995 19:02:14 GMT
Organization: I'm not really all that organized.
Message-ID: <3l1pbm$jc9@bunyan.covenant.edu>
What is a wav file? Can it be played on a NeXT? Is there a utility to
change it to a snd file or something?
Cheers,
Don Petcher
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Command line Workspace uncompress?
Date: 24 Mar 1995 19:12:25 +0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertzng9ztan4wjm@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3krhq8$5du@xexos.xexos.com>
To: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
In-reply-to: paul@xexos.com's message of 23 Mar 1995 10:16:39 GMT
<paul@xexos.com> writes:
>Say I have a file compressed via File->Compress in Workspace.
>Is there a way to uncompress the file from the command line, rather than
>having to do it from the Workspace?
>-Paul-
>--
>Paul Civati, Xexos Ltd FYI it's 'sivarty' ;-) Work: paul@xexos.com
>Bermondsey London UK http://www.xexos.com/ Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk
Assuming it's compressed with
/usr/ucb/compress
then
uncompress < file.compressed | gnutar xvf -
let the thread begin.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar Systems)
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Distribution: world
References: <3kva6n$5hh@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Myorganisation
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 01:58:22 +0000
Message-ID: <796096702snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Todd,
I'm sure you're not the first to be forced away from NeXT by their prices and
you certainly won't be the last.
It's a shame Steve never learnt anything from Bill about marketing; but then
I guess Bill never learnt anything from Steve about doing great software.
Paul Heffernan.
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (Randy Rencsok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer ... how to only read subscribed groups?
Date: 25 Mar 1995 20:38:42 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <3l1v0i$mlg@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <3kv2p4$f2g@cedar.mr.net>
In article <3kv2p4$f2g@cedar.mr.net> davew@clavius.velocity.com (David M Wesley) writes:
> In article <3ktbru$ehh@nova.voicenet.com> root@dehli.voicenet.com writes:
> >
> > I am using Newsgrazer over a 28.8 PPP connection....it takes awhile to
> read
> > in all the new goups...etc how can I just read the groups taht
> > I subscribe to??
> >
> > Like in TIN, it is tin -r -n -q
> >
> > Anybody know any ideas, or know of another NEWS reader that allows on to
> do
> > this?
> >
> > Darren
> > dwright@voicenet.com
>
> Try using the list view. Then you will only be able to see the subscribed
> groups.
I started to use the list view for this very purpose. But I found on my 25Mhz
ND (NS3.2) that NG began crashing too frequently to be tolerated.. I think I'll
give Alexandria a whorl..
Randy
rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (Randy Rencsok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer ... how to only read subscribed groups?
Date: 25 Mar 1995 20:41:34 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <3l1v5u$1be1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <1995Mar25.145805.17920@seer.demon.co.uk>
In article <1995Mar25.145805.17920@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
writes:
>
> Yes, but it still reads the entire active list.
Ah I forgot about that. I just got tired of renavigating to c.s.n etc. all the time.
But I'm back to doing that for the moment..
Randy
From: ez006201@chip.ucdavis.edu (C Winterbottom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Teleconnect
Date: 25 Mar 1995 21:00:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3l208u$fs0@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Keywords: teleconnect, SLIP
Trying to get a SLIP line working between home and mainframe on campus.
Machine is a NeXTstation, software is Teleconnect. Modem and login scripts
look fine but no connection is established.
I found this in /usr/adm/messages:
en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:00:9a:56
IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet"
dsp0 at 0x2108000
np0 at 0x200f000
sound0 at 0x200e000
root on sd0
Marble Teleconnect: v1.1, preparing for up to 10 Teleconnections.
Marble Teleconnect: 10 Teleconnections prepared.
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it.
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
Any suggestions/pointers appreciated.
Thanks,
CQW
From: fritz@entropy.bph.jhu.edu (Frithjof Horst Kuntze)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: trn running with NNTP
Date: 25 Mar 1995 22:05:28 GMT
Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Message-ID: <3l2438$c2s@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
When I attempt to run trn using NNTP it gives the error:
Can't open /usr/local/lib/trn/active2
I must have missed something somewhere. Anyone have a clue why this
doesn't work.
Fritz
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From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: What is MUX??
Message-ID: <D60LCD.F7q@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
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References: <3ktvgt$lc4@agate.berkeley.edu> <3l0rvp$1b9@tssslab.totsyssoft.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 21:07:25 GMT
In article <3l0rvp$1b9@tssslab.totsyssoft.com>,
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> wrote:
>In article <3ktvgt$lc4@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu
>(Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
>}~ In article <MAGNAN.95Mar23205709@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
>}~ magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes:
>}~ >>
>}~ >> What is MUX? Hardware software or both. What is it for?
>
> And that is the basis of the use of the word most often, with
>regards to NEXTSTEP. The 'Mux8' serial port driver handles a multi-
>serial board - OR - individual serial ports, or both. It is an add-
>on for NEXTSTEP-Intel, 3rd party Freeware, and by all reports is
>significantly better than the serial port kernel code that is built
>in with NEXTSTEP-Intel.
And this is no joke at all... under 3.2, which I'm running the NeXT serial
ports driver was just abysmal. It sucked so badly that I feel that I can't
say how bad my experience was without being doubted. Long, high speed
modem transfers frequently led to checksum errors and dropouts. The five
minutes that I had a serial mouse installed was utter hell as the thing
lurched and jerked around like Win16 on downers. Mux made things work the way
that they really ought to and was pretty easy to install on top of that.
The author has done a real service to NS/Intel users who need their serial
ports now and again. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend MUXing all of your
serial ports and using a bus mouse... that way things work the way they ought
to.
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From: tesch@jim.darmstadt.gmd.de (Thomas Tesch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WWW frontends
Date: 25 Mar 1995 18:39:18 GMT
Organization: GMD Darmstadt, Germany
Message-ID: <3l1o0m$r22@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi all!
Are there complete WWW frontends for the NeXT available
(like Mosaic or Netscape on X) ?
On the archives I found only something that is not able
to deal with graphics etc.
Who can help?
Thomas
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXfax and UsRobotics V34
Date: 26 Mar 1995 00:22:31 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3l2c47$p06@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <1995Mar21.141144.11196@wicket.fdn.fr>
Frederic PRALONG (fred@object-factory.fr) wrote:
: Has someone try to connect Nxfax with a UsRobotics V34 (and classe2) modem
: ?
USR V.34 modems are class 2.0 FAX modems (not class 2). Unfortunately,
NXFax does not support them, and doesn't plan to.
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Subject: Re: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 25 Mar 95 20:39:47 GMT
Message-ID: <1749583.74387.18467@kcbbs.gen.nz>
References: <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
> There is no academic version of NeXTstep. The software is the same.
> The license is different: i.e. you pay less up front, but if you intend
> to upgrade to 4.0, 4.1, ... you will end up spending more money than
> if you just buy a commercial license. (You've been warned, now.
> it's part of accepting the terms of the academic license.)
>
> An academic license can be purchased from the Computing Resource Center
> of most universities. You may have to convince them that they can get
> it for you. It depends on what kind of rejects are working at your
> CRC. If they're anything like the rejects at mine, you'll have to
> slap them upside the head. ;)
Oh I see; because you have to keep paying US$299 each time you want to
upgrade. I think this is a bit silly don't you? I've been reading the
next groups for a few weeks and everytime anybody mentions a price I
have to think to myself, "That's a bit silly.".
Companies I've found great at supporting students, in fact quite
incredible, but I do think an upgrade route would be sensible in this
case. I also feel that it's more than a bit futile charging people who
are just hobbyists a small fortune for the operating system. Surely
something could be arranged whereupon U can't produce a product worth
more than $USxxx <- shareware sort of price. I think NeXT need to look
seriously at this problem and act quickly.
Yer yer yer they are into the big time application development I know,
but why waste a really good think for the little people? Wouldn't it be
better to make a sale and get some money rather than not make a sale and
not get a large volume of money?
Anyway yer the uni computer sales are unreal here. If you don't want
anything that they list; they are so pained about finding the item in
question. Amazin' :-)
Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
From: bjl1@cec.wustl.edu (Brad Lindseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Run stuff on my PC from a remote NeXTSTEP system?
Date: 26 Mar 1995 02:35:54 GMT
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <3l2jua$e96@newsreader.wustl.edu>
I would like to know if there are any packages, shareware or
commercial that will allow me to run NeXT apps like OmniWeb, etc. on
my PC, like eXceed will do for X/Windows apps. Or, are there any
packages that will do both?
Is the only difference between a remotely run NeXT graphical apps
and X/Windows that fact that NeXT uses Display PostScript (DPS)? If so,
would I be able to run NeXT apps on eXceed if I provide some support for
DPS? Would Adobe Type Manager do this? Can I use a remote system to
handle the DPS part?
Any Help Will be much Appreciated!
Brad Lindseth
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From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Alexandra->PD NewsGrazer replacement
Message-ID: <1995Mar24.183547.1289@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 18:35:47 GMT
I am posting this with Alexandra written by C. Szallies :-)
It lacks some NG features but it is PD with sources!
Cheers
Fabien
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From: hocker@samizdat (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Wanted: NeXT text mail app
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Sender: news@samizdat
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 21:40:03 GMT
... that uses mail.app files. I need to be able to dial in and read the same
mailboxes that mail.app does.
I don't need anything that reads NeXTmail or MIME neccesarily, but I do need
to read the mail.app files. /bin/mail doesn't cut it!
Thanks!
Matt
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From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler)
Subject: Printing WriteNow document
Message-ID: <bbutlerD5yM6q.DHs@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 19:30:25 GMT
Sender: bbutler@netcom6.netcom.com
I have a document that was created in WriteNow for Next. I want to print
it, but I only have a demo copy of WN (which came installed on my NS2.1
station) that lets me look at the document, but not print it. Is there
a conversion program to convert it to Word or WordPerfect format? I have
Word 5 and Word 6 on a Mac that I can use to print it if I can get it
converted.
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From: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu (Richard Beigel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: want beep in Date program (sources available?)
Date: 26 Mar 1995 15:26:34 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Dept. of C.S., New Haven, CT 06520-8285
Message-ID: <3l413a$2k8@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Does anyone know how to make the Date program beep when when it
puts up appointment reminders? I couldn't figure out how to include
bells in the appointment text. If the sources are available, maybe
I could modify the program. Anyone know?
--
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From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: ?: PS-Level2 JPEG Compression?
Message-ID: <D606tF.15p@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <D5s9E6.L8@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 15:53:38 GMT
In article <D5s9E6.L8@shinto.nbg.sub.org> tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org
(Thomas Engel) writes:
> In article <D5HIL1.qq@nexus1.oche.de> michael@nexus1.oche.de
> (Michael Pieper) writes:
> > Is there a possibility to use the PostScript Level2 JPEG
> > compression under Nextstep? We are handling with some big grafics
> > in our documents and a JPEG compression would need much fewer
> > space in the produced PostScript files.
> >
> > So, I'm interested, if NeXtstep DPS supports JPEG compressed
> > PostScript files at all and for this case, I'm looking for
> > grafics software, which supports this.
>
> Sorry...are you talking about JPEG'ed TIFF images inside your
> PostScript files ?
> This is supported.
After some mails from a friendly guy I know much more about this,
now. NeXT DPS is able to display Postscript files, which include JPEG
or TIFF graphics. It's fast and works fine.
I know no graphics software till today which supports the wrapping of
a JPEG in Postscript code.
But finally I found a program in german computer magazine c't
(06/94), which does Postscript wrapping of JPEG files. Unfortunately
this program scaled the JPEG to fit on a A4 page. With the friendly
help of the above mentioned guy (Detlev Droege
<droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de>) I was able to patch this prog to
simply wrap the JPEG code without any scaling.
Now it works just fine. The differences between a original EPS
formatted photo (1.1MB) and the same photo as a JPEG wrapped in
Postscript code (31kB, Quality 75) are nearly unvisible after
printing on my NeXTlaser :-)
I have no online IP on this site, so I cannot place the files on a
FTP server. But I'm able to NeXTmail the sources to anybody who is
interested.
Michael
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From: ibhan@digitas.org (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?
Date: 26 Mar 95 16:16:44 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Message-ID: <ibhan.796234604@digitas.org>
References: <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net> <1749583.74387.18467@kcbbs.gen.nz>
In <1749583.74387.18467@kcbbs.gen.nz> apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay) writes:
>Oh I see; because you have to keep paying US$299 each time you want to
>upgrade. I think this is a bit silly don't you? I've been reading the
>next groups for a few weeks and everytime anybody mentions a price I
>have to think to myself, "That's a bit silly.".
I thought there was a separate upgrade cost for the academic version.
Something like $99.
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From: Darin Boesch <darinb@halcyon.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any Good Scripting Tools in NeXT?
Date: 26 Mar 1995 17:41:23 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <3l4903$crs@news.halcyon.com>
Hi all,
I was wondering if there are any scripting tools for the NeXT
environment. Perhaps something that would automate/record specific
mouse picks, text entry, etc.
Anyone out there able to help? Thanks!
-Darin
darinb@halcyon.com
From: alexk@informix.com (Alexander Koerner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.informix
Subject: InNFORMIX EOF 1.1 Adaptor in the works...
Date: 26 Mar 1995 20:00:15 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <3l4h4f$sku@news.informix.com>
Hi EOF users,
I just wanted to let you know that an Informix EOF adaptor for EOF 1.1
is in the works.
The adaptor is currently in a pre-release phase at some
selected international customer sites...
Also in the works: Informix-SE and Informix-NET.
The first platform which will be supported is NS/Intel.
If you're interested to get information about the product availability,
please send an email to:
alexk@informix.com (with a CC: to joep@informix.com)
Greetings,
Alexander Koerner
Informix Software C/EE
Munich, Germany
Email: alexk@informix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Question
References: <1995Mar24.161344.27657@leo.vsla.edu> <3kv197$shp@transfer.stratus.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 10:03:40 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Mar26.100340.17839@proximus.north.de>
In article <3kv197$shp@transfer.stratus.com>,
Howard Ship <hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com> wrote:
>Lucette A. Williams writes
>> I have a question concerning OmniWeb. Is there a way that you
>> can "turn off" the box on the top of the screen, where you
>> enter in an HTTP address? The reason I ask is that we have a
>> situation in which we would not want our users to access
>> anything that doesn't originate from our home page. I realize
>> that users can get "out" onto the Web through our home page,
>> through the links that have been created there, but we don't
>> want them to have access to the HTTP box.
>>
>
>If you have NeXT Developer you could manage this by opening the application and
>editing the NIB files. You can disable the text field. You should also
>disable some menu items for opening URLs. You should disable the OmniWeb
>services (you'll have to hunt around a little to find the file).
>
>Unfortunately, a user would still be able to open a .html file, and if that
>contains external links, go wild with it.
To avoid this, you could set up a caching http server with all files your
pages can access cached and disable the net access.
CacheNoConnect On
Gerhard.
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From: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does NS/Sparc works in SUN Sparc IPX
Date: 26 Mar 1995 23:19:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l4sq3$98@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <robertzng9y8psnnfm@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
In article <robertzng9y8psnnfm@audrey.dircon.co.uk> robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk
(Robert Nicholson) writes:
> Well I believe NS/Sparc is only certified to work on a SPARC 5 and
> above. I've got a SPARC 2 and I don't think I can use this as a NS
> machine in the future.
>
True, neither the sparc 2 or the ipx will run NS/Sparc, but I think both of those
machines can run solaris 2.4, so they'll be able to run openstep applications.
Best,
Pete
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From: root@charles.panix.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: services - OmniImageFilter
Date: 27 Mar 1995 04:07:10 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3l5dle$65i@news.panix.com>
I have Omniweb 1.0 and OmniImageFilter (the latest I think) and Omniweb
works fine. What I'm wondering is why I can't convert other images in
other programs automatically. I want to use Gopher and when I click on an
image and load it it comes up as garble. I think I put OmniImageFilter in
all the right places, but maybe not. Shouldn't it work automatically?
I have the filter in NextLibrary/Services and LocalLibrary/Services and
anywhere else where it says services...
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Charles.
(NextMail is happily accepted)
From: leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing WriteNow document
Date: 27 Mar 1995 04:18:01 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l5e9p$7gd@bilby.cs.uwa.oz.au>
References: <3kvv09$m5a@ivy.bga.com>
btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) writes:
> Bryan Butler <bbutler@netcom.com> wrote:
> >I have a document that was created in WriteNow for Next. I want to
print
> >it, but I only have a demo copy of WN (which came installed on my NS2.1
> >station) that lets me look at the document, but not print it.
> Barring that there is a wn-rtf filter that converts the doc to rtf.
> Unfortunately you will probably lose some formatting along the way.
> The filter is in the WrriteNow.app wrapper.
Ok, what about the situation when you're a poor old Intel user? I don't
suppose there was any source to wn-rtf or it ever became a PD program or
fat? There are still too many .wn files around...I guess I have to get
someone with a Motorola box to convert them for me.
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From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: WYSIWYG html editor
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Mar27000052@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 05:00:51 GMT
Is there any html WYSIWYG editor for NeXTSTEP?
Thank you,
Francois
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
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Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 27 Mar 1995 05:15:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3l5hkr$mnt@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
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===========================================
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The ftp sites
=============
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ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: playing .wav sounds?
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 09:05:35 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950327100535.261AACUN.malc@daneel>
References: <D5q1sH.MHE@marble.com> <D5r91z.DH@nexus1.oche.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>> Anyone know of a NeXT app/service which can play sound files of
>> the .wav format type?
>
>GISO.app. It's an app-wrapper for sox.
>
You could also install MMSoundInspector.
It's a Workspace sound inspector which reads and plays .snd, .au, .wav and
.aiff files.
There are a couple of bugs in it (e.g. for some reason very, very
occasionally .snd files are read as being zero length), and I haven't put in
any workarounds for NEXTSTEP bugs during playback (some 8-bit files are
replayed at double speed) which I'm afraid I haven't had time to look at
<sigh>, but I'm not aware of anything serious which could go wrong
(however... #import <std/disclaimer.h>).
Have fun,
mmalc.
posn. research facilitator
where institute for language speech and hearing
sheffield university
c/o department of computer science
regent court
211 portobello street
sheffield s1 4dp
england
vox (+44) 114 282 5594
fax (+44) 114 278 0972
email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can you play a wav file in a NeXT?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 10:36:01 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3l64eh$q6r@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3l1pbm$jc9@bunyan.covenant.edu>
Donald N. Petcher (petcher@moriah.covenant.edu) wrote:
> What is a wav file? Can it be played on a NeXT? Is there a utility to
> change it to a snd file or something?
Get Resound 2.3 from ftp.cs.orst.edu. It's really neat stuff!
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
else? // Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 27 Mar 1995 10:43:31 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l64sj$q6r@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3kva6n$5hh@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
> party software for NextStep is scarce and expensive. There are few cross
> platform applications, NextStep native applications with equivalent
> functionality to applications on other platforms often don't exist (take a
> good scientific graphing tool or Adobe Photoshop as examples), and
There's SciPlot and GNUPlot for scientific graphing and TIFFany II and CIC
as image processing software. IMHO, TIFFany's approach outperforms Photoshop.
There's a lot of really good apps from Lighthouse, there's FrameMaker,
Virtuoso, Pages, Tailor, ...
What are you complaining about? The only app I really miss is something
equal to MS Access - Nextstep only offers EOF, and that's for programmers,
not for users.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
else? // Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Teleconnect
Date: 27 Mar 1995 09:10:47 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3l5ven$n4b@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3l208u$fs0@mark.ucdavis.edu>
C Winterbottom (ez006201@chip.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: Trying to get a SLIP line working between home and mainframe on campus.
: Machine is a NeXTstation, software is Teleconnect. Modem and login scripts
: look fine but no connection is established.
I have teleconnect up and running & it works pretty good. Don't
worry about the
: ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_SETFLAGS
: ducontrol: cannot set IFCONTROL_AUTOADDR: 0x11166f0c
messages. That's normal.
But make sure that you did the right configuration in the 'Local...' Menu
of the Hostmanager.
I found that I can not establish a connection with 'telnet hsot' but I
have to initiate it with the 'establish button' first. After that telnet
and stuff works just fine.
Otto
From: dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MPEG2 Audio Player?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 00:27:56 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l50qc$iem@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Does anyone know of a PD/SW/commercial mpeg2 audio player for
NEXTSTEP? Can NEXTTIME can play these audio files?
BTW, is there a demo version of NEXTTIME anywhere?
Dale
---
Dale Brisinda Email: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Graduate Student NeXTmail: dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca
Department of Computer Science Tel: (403) 220-7687
University of Calgary Fax: (403) 281-5242
From: pom@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing WriteNow document
Date: 27 Mar 1995 10:39:47 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l64lj$t8f@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
References: <3l5e9p$7gd@bilby.cs.uwa.oz.au>
In article <3l5e9p$7gd@bilby.cs.uwa.oz.au> leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au
(Leigh Smith) writes:
# btschumy@bga.com (Bill Tschumy) writes:
# Ok, what about the situation when you're a poor old Intel user? I don't
# suppose there was any source to wn-rtf or it ever became a PD program or
# fat? There are still too many .wn files around...I guess I have to get
# someone with a Motorola box to convert them for me.
On the ftp archives you find a demo version of OpenWrite. It's fully
functional, but only for twenty minutes. But that's enough for reading a
WriteNow file and printing it or export it in rtf- or Word- or ...-format.
--
Klaus Pommerening
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation
der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet
D-55101 Mainz, Germany
From: aslsoft@aslgate (Software Group Acct)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to get a demo copy of NS for SPARC station
Date: 27 Mar 1995 13:31:14 GMT
Organization: Hong Kong SuperNET
Message-ID: <3l6en2$j18@tst.hk.super.net>
Summary: need to test NEXTSTEP on SUN platform
Keywords: Sun, Sparc, NEXTSTEP, demo
Hi NeXT fans,
I am looking for a demo copy of NEXTSTEP os for Sun
Sparc Station, does any of you know where I should look for?
(Even a beta release will do it!) Any help is greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Georges Chan.
email: gchan@asl.com.hk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9503271228.AA19177@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 07:28:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Command line Workspace uncompress?
Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com
Say I have a file compressed via File->Compress in
Workspace.
"I have a file compressed via File->Compress in Workspace."
(well, that part was easy, except I am not sure
how to pronounce "->")
Is there a way to uncompress the file from the command
line, rather than having to do it from the Workspace?
Sure. If you have not modified the dwrites for Workspace
un/compress, then .compressed is almost (not exactly) like .tar.Z. I
think the way it works is that you can change a file called
.compressed to .tar.Z, but you might have troubles if you change a
file called .tar.Z to .compressed.
anyway, the short answer is "rename the file to whatever.tar.Z"
WARNING: unasked for information ahead:
you can change Workspace's de/compression to any that are on your
system with the following dwrites:
dwrite Workspace compress /path/to/whatever
dwrite Workspace uncompress /path/to/whatever/else/preferably/gunzip
(in my opinion)
you may also need to add:
dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes
ie:
dwrite Workspace compress /usr/local/bin/gzip
dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/local/bin/gunzip
dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes
NOTE: if you do this and are going to send a .compressed file to
someone else, rename the file to show exactly what compression system
was used. I rename all my .compressed files to .tar.gz before
emailing them to anyone.
I believe you can just use:
dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/local/bin/gunzip
(or whatever the path is to gunzip) without changing anything else,
because gunzip understands so many compression forms.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: psteindl@il.us.swissbank.com (Philippe Steindl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SCSI Bus errors (adaptec 154cf / NS 3.3)
Date: 27 Mar 1995 12:39:15 GMT
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, Swiss Bank Center, Zurich Airport
Message-ID: <3l6blj$83c@op1d56cmp.il.us.swissbank.com>
Hia People,
anybody has some idea why I get scsi bus tiemouts and such under NS 3.3?
I am using an adaptec 1542CF scsi adapter with an IBM E15 disk. This
never made problems under linux, but since I'm running NS, the SCSI bus
keeps going nuts every 3 reboots. This is kind of very annoying.
Anyone?
Philippe Steindl
From: nigrin@lennon.cas.american.edu (Albert Nigrin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgrazer newsgroups
Date: 27 Mar 1995 20:18:46 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l76j6$lsi@paladin.american.edu>
I'm using Newsgrazer at work to save articles into news folders. Then, what I
want to do is copy those news folders to my machine at home and use Newsgrazer
to read them there. The problem is, whenever I try to start up Newsgrazer at
home, it quits and says: 'No nntp server machine specified please change your
Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.'
Is there any way to start up NewsGrazer without a news feed?
Thanks
Al
nigrin@american.edu
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Command line Workspace uncompress?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 09:18:15 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l5vsn$i5@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <D5z8zJ.546@genoa.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <D5z8zJ.546@genoa.com> alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore) writes:
}~ Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes
}~ > gnutar -xvzpf somefile.compressed ; rm somefile.compressed
}~ > will give you a VERY close approximateion of Workspace uncompress.
}~
}~ an even closer approximation, and a MUCH SAFER one is:
}~
}~ gnutar -xvzpf somefile.compressed && rm somefile.compressed
Safer, yes. Closer? - I haven't checked lately, but mine
was actually closer last I checked.
Bruce
to be
picked up later by a NeXTmail capable app, too. Merely configure
it to access your ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox and comparable files.
v3.91 is at least approximately current. There *could* be a snag
that I'm not aware of, but I haven't found it yet.
+-+
Bruce Gingery Total System Software Cheyenne, WY USA
We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
Homepage under construction <URL:http://turnpike.net/metro/bagingry/>
NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
Bruce Gingery <bgingery@Wyoming.COM> OR <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks)
Subject: Re: NS on Sparcs -- what about atom ?
Message-ID: <D64DE8.Buz@ilink.de>
Sender: usenet@ilink.de
Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin
References: <1995Mar20.160156.23826@schbbs.mot.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 22:06:07 GMT
In article <1995Mar20.160156.23826@schbbs.mot.com> frank_m@sat.mot.com
(Mark Frank) writes:
> Does anyone know how Nextstep will operate on Sparc stations?
> Will I still be able to run my old Sun applications? Will I have
> to reboot into the Sun software, etc.?
> - Thanks, Mark
> p25231@email.mot.com
>
What about atom ? Does it still exist ? Does it at least work for SunOS
binaries (assuming that it will not work for Solaris due to SysV ...)
From: (Charles de Montebello) clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Faxing with US Robotics
Date: 28 Mar 1995 00:53:52 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3l7mn0$rjh@news.panix.com>
Is there any software that supports US Robotics Sportster 28.8 modems for
faxing (either freeware or shareware). Can I use NXFAX? If so, how do I
configure it?
Thanks.
Charles.
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Remote display of X clients and PPP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 28 Mar 1995 01:09:42 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3l7nkm$cj4@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <3kvh2b$j53@mp.cs.niu.edu>
James Phelps (u40jdp1@cs.niu.edu) wrote:
: I'm running 3.3/3.2 with PPP2.2 connecting to another NeXT and
: at other times to a SPARC 2, via a PPP provider. When I attempt
: to remotely display the client by using the IP address assigned my
: remote machine by the PPP provider, with a ":0" attached, X can't seem
: to access the remote window. I'm not so surprised but do not know
: enough to fix this, apparently.
I've done this. Make sure you do an "xhosts +" on your NS side to disable
access checking. BTW, X and PPP with V.34 is usable, though ISDN would be
sweet.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
rgc@cs.umd.edu
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
From: circe@id.wing.net (David Sinclair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mSQL 1.05 Adaptor at ftp.cs.orst.edu
Date: 28 Mar 1995 03:07:32 GMT
Organization: Wilder InterNet Gateway (wing.net)
Message-ID: <3l7uhm$f34@news1.WING.NET>
References: <1995Mar24.074110.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu wrote:
: I've just uploaded an adaptor that works (so far) with mSQL 1.05. It was
: basically a recompile using the updated msql.h. Thanks to Faizel Dakri for
: helping with the testing.
: Scott Davenport / sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu / NeXTMail OK!
Hmm... I just downloaded and installed this, but when I try to use it
with DBModeller, it says "Unable to load MSQL Adaptor" -- does this
require EOF? I am running NS3.2dev on a slab, mSQLv1.0.5.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
David A. Sinclair -
ASCII email: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu NeXTmail: circe@id.wing.net
From: goes@ursus.jun.alaska.edu (Jim Goes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: difficulty running scripts from command line
Date: 27 Mar 1995 06:03:00 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Message-ID: <3l5kek$17f@news.alaska.edu>
I recently upgraded from NS 2.2 to 3.2 on a black box. I now find that I
am unable to run executable command scripts from the command line in a
Terminal or Stuart window. However these same scripts run just fine from
rc.local in the bootup sequence. Must be some error in my csh
configuration. However I haven't changed anything in .cshrc from the
configuration in NS 2.2. These scripts are designated as executable and
show up with an asterisk in a directory listing. Any idea what I am doing
wrong?
Apologies if this is an FAQ. Please respond directly. Thanks.
****************************************************************
Jim Goes + Internet: goes@ursus.jun.alaska.edu
School of Business and + (NeXTmail welcome!)
Public Administration + Phone: (907) 465-6344
University of Alaska S.E. + FAX: (907) 465-6383
----------------------------------------------------------------
From: seanl@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Free LaTeX for NS?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 18:09:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <3l6v0d$td@hecate.umd.edu>
Just wondering if it exists and if so, how I can get it. Thanks!
Sean Luke U Maryland at College Park
seanl@cs.umd.edu Today's Chemical: Aluminum Zirconium Tetrachlorohydrex GLY
From: dover@pinot.callamer.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Looking for UUCP software
Date: 27 Mar 1995 14:10:25 -0800
Organization: Call America, San Luis Obispo CA USA Earth Sol
Sender: dover@callamer.com
Message-ID: <3l7d4h$o2s@pinot.callamer.com>
I'm looking for software that will simplify the set-up and management of
a UUCP connection that runs on Intel NEXTSTEP. Any pointers would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
John A Kusters, jr.
Dover Pacific Computing, inc.
From: chuck@nightingale.nurs.utah.edu (Charles Wiechman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using overhead projector
Date: 27 Mar 1995 22:13:49 GMT
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <3l7dat$kia@news.cc.utah.edu>
Keywords: overhead projector
Does anyone know how to make a next cube using a next dimension board
hook up to an overhead projector? I was told that I could hook up the
overhead to the nine-pin output on the dimension board and use Next tv
or other software to output to the overhead. I hooked up the overhead
but "output selection" is not highlighted in the servieces window. I was
also told that Next tv would put out a snapshot of the screen. Is there
software that will run a live display( for use in a classroom).
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please respond with email.
Chuck Wiechman
chuck@nightingale.nurs.utah.edu
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!srosie
From: srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?)
Date: 27 Mar 1995 18:40:01 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Sender: srosie@umich.edu
Message-ID: <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>
In article <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>,
Pohl Longsine <plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com> wrote:
>Ishir Bhan (ibhan@fas.harvard.edu) wrote:
[chomp]
>There is no academic version of NeXTstep. The software is the same.
>The license is different: i.e. you pay less up front, but if you intend
>to upgrade to 4.0, 4.1, ... you will end up spending more money than
>if you just buy a commercial license. (You've been warned, now.
>it's part of accepting the terms of the academic license.)
>
Huh? Are you saying that NeXT is going to raise the academic price
when 4.0 ships? Or, alternatively, are they going to lower the non-
academic price when 4.0 ships and give free upgrades to those who
purchased 3.3?
enquiring (and confused) minds want to know...
thanks,
rosie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9503272314.AA22766@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 18:14:40 -0500
Subject: Re: help needed with setting up NeXTMail
Cc: boom@sonyx.com, comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com
does anyone have any recommendations to someone who
is so totally brand-spanking new to the whole NeXTMail
thing and PPP that he can barely spell it?
i am trying to find a free/shareware PPP thingy, and
want to set up NMail as soon as possible!
I assume you have 'NMail' already, so here's where to find some PPP thingies:
ftp site: 129.187.249.15
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Documents/network/SLIP_PPP_Paper.ps.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/Alby.2.PPP.0.3.N.bs.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/PPP_2_2.0.1.6.NIH.b.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/PPP_2_2.0.1.9.NIHS.b.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/PPP_2_2.README
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/ppp.0.3.N.bs.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/ppp.0.3.README
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/ppp.2.1.2.H.README
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/ppp.2.1.2.H.s.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communication/ppp.2.1.2.s.tar.gz
OR:
ftp site: santiam.cs.orst.edu
/software/NeXT/binaries/comm/Alby-NeXT-PPP.0.3.tar.gz
/software/NeXT/binaries/comm/ppp-0.3.README
/software/NeXT/binaries/comm/ppp-0.3.tar.gz
/software/NeXT/binaries/comm/ppp-2.2.README
/software/NeXT/documents/SLIP_PPP_Paper.ps.Z
/software/NeXT/sources/comm/ppp-2.1.2-beta.README
/software/NeXT/sources/comm/ppp-2.1.2-beta.tar.gz
/software/NeXT/sources/comm/ppp-2.2.README
sorry i was too lazy to make them all proper URLs, I've been up for
almost 36 hours ;-)
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: nigrin@lennon.cas.american.edu (Albert Nigrin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgrazer newsgroups
Date: 27 Mar 1995 20:16:46 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l76fe$lrs@paladin.american.edu>
I'm using Newsgrazer at work to save articles into news folders. Then, what I
want to do is copy those news folders to my machine at home and use Newsgrazer
to read them there. The problem is, whenever I try to start up Newsgrazer at
home, it quits and says: 'No nntp server machine specified please change your
Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.'
Is there any way to start up NewsGrazer without a news feed?
Thanks
Al
nigrin@american.edu
From: nigrin@lennon.cas.american.edu (Albert Nigrin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgrazer newsgroups
Date: 27 Mar 1995 20:17:00 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l76fs$lrt@paladin.american.edu>
I'm using Newsgrazer at work to save articles into news folders. Then, what I
want to do is copy those news folders to my machine at home and use Newsgrazer
to read them there. The problem is, whenever I try to start up Newsgrazer at
home, it quits and says: 'No nntp server machine specified please change your
Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.'
Is there any way to start up NewsGrazer without a news feed?
Thanks
Al
nigrin@american.edu
From: nigrin@lennon.cas.american.edu (Albert Nigrin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgrazer newsgroups
Date: 27 Mar 1995 20:17:05 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l76g1$lru@paladin.american.edu>
I'm using Newsgrazer at work to save articles into news folders. Then, what I
want to do is copy those news folders to my machine at home and use Newsgrazer
to read them there. The problem is, whenever I try to start up Newsgrazer at
home, it quits and says: 'No nntp server machine specified please change your
Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.'
Is there any way to start up NewsGrazer without a news feed?
Thanks
Al
nigrin@american.edu
From: nigrin@lennon.cas.american.edu (Albert Nigrin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgrazer newsgroups
Date: 27 Mar 1995 20:17:12 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l76g8$ls0@paladin.american.edu>
I'm using Newsgrazer at work to save articles into news folders. Then, what I
want to do is copy those news folders to my machine at home and use Newsgrazer
to read them there. The problem is, whenever I try to start up Newsgrazer at
home, it quits and says: 'No nntp server machine specified please change your
Preferences and restart NewsGrazer.'
Is there any way to start up NewsGrazer without a news feed?
Thanks
Al
nigrin@american.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler)
Subject: Re: Printing WriteNow document
Message-ID: <bbutlerD64GFy.2D6@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <bbutlerD5yM6q.DHs@netcom.com> <3kvv09$m5a@ivy.bga.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 23:11:57 GMT
Sender: bbutler@netcom9.netcom.com
Bill Tschumy (btschumy@bga.com) wrote:
> In article <bbutlerD5yM6q.DHs@netcom.com>,
> Bryan Butler <bbutler@netcom.com> wrote:
> >I have a document that was created in WriteNow for Next. I want to print
> >it, but I only have a demo copy of WN (which came installed on my NS2.1
> >station) that lets me look at the document, but not print it. Is there
> >a conversion program to convert it to Word or WordPerfect format? I have
> >Word 5 and Word 6 on a Mac that I can use to print it if I can get it
> >converted.
> >
> >--
> >-------
> >Bryan Butler
> >bbutler@netcom.com
> The file format of WriteNow for NeXT is the same as WriteNow on
> Macintosh (actually I think the Mac version has evolved, but it should
> be able to read the old version). So perhaps you can get it to a Mac
> to print.
> Barring that there is a wn-rtf filter that converts the doc to rtf.
> Unfortunately you will probably lose some formatting along the way.
> The filter is in the WrriteNow.app wrapper. You invoke it as:
> wn-rtf <somefile.wn >somefile.rtf
> Good luck.
Yes, the wn-rtf filter seems to work pretty well for the text, but the
document has embedded graphics, which are ignored by the converter. I could
go back and reinsert the figures manually, but that is a pain. I just want
to print it once.
--
-------
Bryan Butler
bbutler@netcom.com
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Date: 27 Mar 1995 17:00:52 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l6r04$cgj@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3l64sj$q6r@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3l64sj$q6r@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> There's SciPlot and GNUPlot for scientific graphing and TIFFany II and
> CIC as image processing software.
I tried both of those. SciPlot is the only NextStep application among all
the shareware and commercial apps which will do any descent curve fitting.
But the interface is a bit kludgey, and it certainly doesn't compare to
KaleidaGraph on the Mac.
> There's a lot of really good apps from Lighthouse, there's FrameMaker,
> Virtuoso, Pages, Tailor, ...
> What are you complaining about?
I'm complaining about the *prices* of Frame, Virtuosos, Pages and so
forth. The same applications for the macintosh are much, much cheaper.
Besides, of the ones you mentioned, Frame is now the only cross platform
app which is still supported, and only half heartedly at that. If you
want cross platform compatibility, you've still got a problem, even if you
are willing to pay three times the price for your software.
-- Todd Takken
From: ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys (Stefan Ried)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs:easymenu-Problem/auctex
Date: 27 Mar 1995 21:18:20 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <3l7a2s$3j1@sun1.uni-essen.de>
Hallo Emacs User,
i've got a problems with Emacs for NS Version 19.22 and 19.28.
Version 19.28 is really crashing while changing dynamic menus.
A few lines to explain what's happening.
There are two different ways to introduce new menus with a emacs mode.
1. case directly e.g. c-mode.el:
(define-key c-mode-map [menu-bar] (make-sparse-keymap))
(define-key c-mode-map [menu-bar c]
(cons "C" (make-sparse-keymap "C")))
(define-key c-mode-map [menu-bar c comment-region]
'("Comment Out Region" . comment-region))
(define-key c-mode-map [menu-bar c c-macro-expand]
'("Macro Expand Region" . c-macro-expand))
....
2. case with easymenu.el e.g. auctex/latex.el
(add-hook 'activate-menubar-hook 'LaTeX-menu-update)
(easy-menu-define LaTeX-mode-menu
LaTeX-mode-map
"Menu used in LaTeX mode."
(list "LaTeX"
(list LaTeX-environment-menu-name "Bug.")
(list LaTeX-environment-modify-menu-name "Bug.")
(LaTeX-section-menu-create)
["Macro..." TeX-insert-macro t]
["Complete" TeX-complete-symbol t]
....
The easymenu.el (equal auctex/auc-menu.el) was just designed as far as i know to give a
more sophisticated way to generate menus and submenus with one easy-menu-define command and
lists as arguments. There are some lisp packages (like auctex) which uses the easymenu.el
extensively.
The Emacs menus are dynamically, which means that the C- or Latex-menu will disappear from
the topmenu if you change the mode. This happens if you just enter the minibuffer for an
i-search command.
This works well as far as Menus are used like in X window systems. But opened submenus can
be pulled away from the main menu and placed anywhere on the workspace with NextStep.
Changing the mode the submenu is supposed to disappear and appear later again if the mode
is changed to the orginal.
The disappearing works with both 19.22 and 19.28. After the mode is changed again both
versions are working fine with menus generated by the directly scheme of case 1.
With menus generated by case 2 with easemenu.el Version 19.22 simply seem to have forgotten
the opened and pulled away menus and 19.28 is crashing !!!
This seems to come from any mistake in the easymenu.el coming with Carl Edmans Emacs.
Should easymenu.el be changed to handle pulled away menus ???
Does anybody use easymenu with dynamic mode dependent menus and have no problems.
I'd like to use Auctex and i don't want to hack the auctex-files.
Thanks
stef
PS: Same on Intel and m68k machines. Latest auctex
ftp://ftp.dante.de//pub/tex/support/auctex/alpha/auctex-9.3b.tar.gz
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Free LaTeX for NS?
Date: 27 Mar 1995 20:55:59 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l78ov$n62@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <3l6v0d$td@hecate.umd.edu>
In article <3l6v0d$td@hecate.umd.edu> seanl@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
writes:
> Just wondering if it exists and if so, how I can get it. Thanks!
It's part of the standard distribution of NS. Look on the CD.
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
http://gopher.econ.lsa.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: wli@linus (Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: problem sending fax on black slab
Date: 27 Mar 1995 20:55:38 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock
Message-ID: <3l78oa$58q@news.ualr.edu>
I would appreciate some help on sending fax on a black
NeXTStation. I am running NeXTStep 2.1 and using USRobotics
Sportster 14.4 Fax modem. I have selected "class 2 fax
modem" from the "PrinterManager". But the modem was never
dialed by the NeXTStation. Thanks.
-wei,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Is MUX fast enough for 115kbps?
Message-ID: <D64zCK.1xy@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us
References: <3kqqlt$s63@vanbc.wimsey.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 06:00:19 GMT
jamacht@vanbc.wimsey.com (Jeffrey Alan Macht) writes:
>Now, i've got Mux installed for /dev/cufb, and it works. Would it be
>able to handle the speed? (115kbps) The docs mention it took 57600bps.
>Oh ja, this is for a P90 running 3.2.
After line 68 in /usr/include/bsd/sys/ttydev.h add the following line:
#define B115200 20
and recompile the driver. No guarantees that it will be 100% reliable, but
with a P90 maybe it will `go' ...
Ciao -- Mark
From: louis@objects.cc.emory.edu (Louis Leon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Teleconnect, problems with
Date: 27 Mar 1995 15:07:20 GMT
Organization: Emory University
Message-ID: <3l6kb8$mke@moe.cc.emory.edu>
Keywords: Teleconnect Neuron modem problem
Speaking of problems with Teleconnect,
I have been using a Neuron modem and Teleconnect quite successfully for
years, but now wish to upgrade to a faster modem. I got my hands on a
SupraFax to test with Teleconnect. Using 'tip', the modem connects just
fine to my campus.
Using Teleconnect, the dial.log shows that an "AT &F" and a "ATS20" are
issued to the modem, both before the du0.script code is executed. I get
the following in the dial.log:
Error in /etc/teleconnect/config/interfaces/du0.script, line 0: no match
for '"008"' after 5 seconds
returning fatal error - no 008 after AT S20?
Not a Neuron Fax 96+ modem
successful ioctl FAILCALL on device du0
failed to find Neuron Fax 96+ modem
I had originally purchased the Neuron modem and the Teleconnect as a
bundle. My e-mail to Teleconnect gets no response.
Does anybody have know how to get around this apparently hard-coded test
for a Neuron modem, so that I may use other modems?
--
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* Louis Leon 404-727-4782 *
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From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Death of Virtuoso?
Date: 28 Mar 1995 14:11:24 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <3l95ed$clc@news.bu.edu>
With the recent buyout of Altsys by MacroMedia, I'm wondering what this means
to the future of Virtuoso on NEXTSTEP. Which is to say, will there be one?
With Wetpaint and Tiffany II, there seems to be no major gaping holes in the
image editing department, but with the departure of Adobe Illustrator, and
now Virtuoso (?), by way of drawing apps this leaves only Create if I'm not
mistaken.
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Death of Virtuoso?
Date: 28 Mar 1995 14:12:17 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <3l95g1$clc@news.bu.edu>
With the recent buyout of Altsys by MacroMedia, I'm wondering what this means
to the future of Virtuoso on NEXTSTEP. Which is to say, will there be one?
With Wetpaint and Tiffany II, there seems to be no major gaping holes in the
image editing department, but with the departure of Adobe Illustrator, and
now Virtuoso (?), by way of drawing apps this leaves only Create if I'm not
mistaken.
bbry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mreubold@tilife.ch
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Question
Message-ID: <D65GJI.Eu@tilife.ch>
Sender: mreubold@tilife.ch (Martin Reubold)
Organization: Ticino Life, Life Insurances Company, Breganzona, Switzerland
References: <3kv40r$bsq@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 12:11:42 GMT
In article <3kv40r$bsq@agate.berkeley.edu>
tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
> In article <1995Mar24.161344.27657@leo.vsla.edu>
lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette
> A. Williams) writes:
>
> >>
> >> IMO, it seems to defeat the purpose of the browser,
but I
> >> thought I'd ask anyway.
> >>
> >> Any comments, discussion? :)
>
> Just take the keyboard away.
> >>
Not good enough ... they could always copy and paste :-|
M.Reubold tel +41 91 584848
c/o Ticino Vita Fax +41 91 567821
Via Camara 17 e-mail mreubold@tilife.ch
CH-6932 Breganzona
Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: 9326316@news.ul.ie ( John Morris )
Subject: Graphical Music representation
Message-ID: <D65y5L.Dqq@ul.ie>
Sender: usenet@ul.ie
Organization: University of Limerick
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 18:32:08 GMT
Hi,
My name is John morris. I am a final year student and I am looking for
some information on displaying music notation on the screen. I came
across a package called "NUTATION" which looked like the answer to my
prayers, but it only works with NeXT hardware and I am implementing my
project on a PC with the NeXT operating system.
Does a PC compatible version of "Nutation" exist for NeXTstep?
If not, does any one know of any other Graphical notation packages for PC
NeXTStep that exist.
If anyone has any Information could they drop me a line at email address
9326316@ul.ie.
Thanks in advance,
John
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Frame 5 -- No NS or OS support, at least initially
Date: 28 Mar 1995 15:42:12 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3l9aok$1ngg@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Copied below is the announcement of FrameMaker version 5. As you will see,
there is no support for NS or OS, at least in the initial version, although
Solaris is listed.
I need to be reassured on this one, folks. Will there be Frame 5 support for NS
and OS?
On a related subject, can anyone confirm that there will be OpenStep support
for HP-UX, and if so, when will it come out?
Path:
yuma!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland
reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!frame.frame.com!comments@frame.com
From: tdm@frame.com (Trish Mudgett - Frame Techsup Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: FrameMaker, Version 5
Date: 28 Mar 1995 14:57:28 GMT
Organization: Frame Technology Corp
Lines: 186
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l984o$p5g@frame.frame.com>
Reply-To: comments@frame.com
SAN JOSE, CA -March 27, 1995 - Frame Technology(R) Corporation today
announced FrameMaker(R) , release 5 and FrameViewer(R), release 5, the next
generation of its popular document authoring and electronic distribution
software products. The new versions of FrameMaker and FrameViewer for
Macintosh, UNIX, and Windows platforms include powerful new features and
enhancements that dramatically increase users' productivity for authoring
and distributing documents on multiple computing platforms. The products
provide a complete solution for organizations that need the flexibility to
publish and distribute documents on paper, over the Internet, or via other
electronic distribution media.
FrameMaker and FrameViewer, release 5 will debut at the Seybold Publishing
Conference in Boston, March 29-31, 1995 in Frame's Booth #2813.
U.S. and International English versions of FrameMaker, release 5 will be
available by June 1, 1995 on Macintosh, Power Macintosh, Sun OS, Solaris,
HP-UX and Windows computing platforms. The product will be sold by Frame
and its worldwide authorized dealers, value-added resellers, and
distributors.
"Organizations today are demanding comprehensive solutions for creating,
managing, and distributing documents that can be reused and shared
enterprise-wide," said L. George Klaus, Frame's president and CEO. "The
enhancements we've incorporated into our next generation products are being
released on six platforms simultaneously and reflect input from Frame's
customers regarding the robust features required to help them become more
productive in today's world."
New Features
FrameMaker, release 5's new features add more flexibility, power, and
ease-of-use in several key categories including authoring efficiency,
compound document support and cross-platform architecture, and online
publishing capabilities. Some of the new features include:
Authoring Efficiency
Automatic text runarounds allow users to quickly and easily flow text
around graphics as a rectangular boundary, an arbitrary polygon, or
following the contour of an irregular image. Runarounds can use the
"page-location-based" approach commonly found in desktop publishing
packages, or be included in an anchored frame that flows with the text.
Straddles allow headlines, tables, graphics, or footnotes to span multiple
columns and side heads. Straddles can be defined at the paragraph level,
allowing improved consistency. Automatic column balancing can even cross
page boundaries, making FrameMaker's automatic composition capabilities the
most powerful available on the desktop today.
An online tutorial enables users to learn FrameMaker, release 5 with an
interactive lessons that can be easily referred to any time in the document
creation process. FrameMaker's online help and reference documentation has
also been upgraded in release 5.
Compound Document Support & Cross-Platform Architecture
Import text by reference. Regardless of computer platform, text can now be
imported by reference into FrameMaker documents. Imported text can come
from other FrameMaker documents, ASCII text, or word processing formats
supported by FrameMaker's import filters. The imported text can retain its
original format or pick up the new format from the destination FrameMaker
document. This feature is very useful with documents that will be shared
across platforms and contain boilerplate information.
Filter enhancements. The FrameMaker filter architecture has been totally
re-engineered to provide consistent text and graphics import and export
capabilities across all platforms. FrameMaker can import and export common
text and graphic formats, allowing users to share information in existing
documents.
Adobe Type Manage(TM) (ATM(TM) ) and support for Type 1 fonts. ATM is
included with the UNIX and Windows products. Support for Adobe Type 1 fonts
is now available across all platforms making cross-platform movement of
documents completely seamless.
Frame Developer's Kit. The Frame Developer's Ki(TM), or FDK, for Macintosh,
UNIX and Windows platforms, is targeted at end-users, ISV developers,
value-added resellers, and systems integrators who want to develop
portable, value-added applications for FrameMaker, FrameViewer, and
FrameMaker+SGML. The Frame Developer's Kit consists of a set of
cross-platform development tools including Frame's Application Program
Interface (API) and the Frame Development Environment (FDE).
The newly enhanced Frame API contains a set of function calls that allows
users to write C-based applications to take more control of Frame product
behavior, as well as communicate interactively with the user. With Frame's
API, users can develop applications as simple as adding a new menu item, or
as complex as building a complete document assembly system around Frame's
products.
The FDE has been enhanced to help users make API applications portable to
all platforms supported by Frame products.
Online Publishing
More and more documents are being published electronically, across
enterprise networks or over the Internet. FrameMaker is cementing its
position as the authoring tool of choice for documents that will be
distributed electronically. FrameMaker supports the four leading online
distribution options with automatic hypertext link generation and standard
output options to FrameViewer, the Internet/World Wide Web, Adobe Acrobat
2.0, and RTF export for WinHelp.
FrameViewer. FrameViewer, release 5 users can take advantage of the
following new features for electronic document creation and distribution:
Custom titles in alert boxes enable document authors to easily create alert
boxes that display messages with their own customized titles.
Pull-right pop-up menus can now have a submenu for another layer of linked
commands.
Document by document hypertext preferences give users the ability to
control window placement from the table of contents, indexes, or any other
automatically generated information.
Internet/WWW publishing. FrameMaker, release 5 will include an integrated
HyperText Markup Language (HTML) document conversion tool that automates
the task of preparing documents for the World Wide Web. The HTML export
option allows the user to define mappings from FrameMaker paragraph styles
to HTML, and hypertext links to intra- and inter-document Uniform Resource
Locators -even to other web sites.
Adobe(TM) Acrobat(TM) 2.0 Support. FrameMaker now generates enhanced
PostScript files which can be used by the Acrobat Distiller to generate PDF
Mark 2.0 compatible files. FrameMaker PostScript takes advantage of Acrobat
features like bookmarks, article threads, cross-document hypertext links,
annotations, and thumbnails.
RTF WinHelp. The RTF export filter has been enhanced to simplify the
creation of WinHelp files.
Robust Features
Building on previous versions, FrameMaker, release 5 incorporates features
such as intelligent tables; FrameMath(TM); conditional text; a QuickAccess
bar; object-oriented drawing tools; process, spot, Pantone and custom
color; and automatic updating and generation of cross-references, tables of
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From: mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com (Mark_Tyler_Neher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cursor tracking in SoftPC
Date: 28 Mar 1995 19:15:32 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Message-ID: <3l9n8k$r6@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
I use SoftPC to run Netscape occasionally, as it supports more HTML than
OmniWeb at this point. Just today I have started getting tracking
problems, where the cursor is leaving tracks/images all over the SoftPC
window. Exiting SoftPC and restarting doesn't help; rebooting the
machine worked for only a few minutes.
Anybody seen anything similar ?? Any ideas or suggestions ??
Thanks,
MTN
From: Terry Moore <tmoore@martha>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Java for NEXTSTEP
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:55:50 -0500
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950328114130.9644E@martha>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Does anyone know whether or not a port of the HotJava Browser and the
Java interpreter for NEXTSTEP are planned (or could be lobbied for). If
you don't know about the Java language and the associated HotJava browser
check out http://java.sun.com/ , and in particular the white papers at
http://java.sun.com/1.0alpha2/doc/overview/hotjava/index.html
and
http://java.sun.com/1.0alpha2/doc/overview/java/index.html
Though I know there are developments in the NS community along these lines
(e.g. eText, WebStep spec., etc.) this looks like seriously cool
technology that would fit into the NS world very, very well. Hope it
happens soon.
Terry Moore
terry-moore@utk.edu
From: seanl@ringding.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Free LaTeX for NS?
Date: 28 Mar 1995 19:58:54 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l9ppu$3f1@hecate.umd.edu>
References: <3l6v0d$td@hecate.umd.edu> <3l78ov$n62@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Hal.Varian@umich.edu wrote:
>In article <3l6v0d$td@hecate.umd.edu> seanl@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
>writes:
>> Just wondering if it exists and if so, how I can get it. Thanks!
>It's part of the standard distribution of NS. Look on the CD.
Thanks everyone for the replies, vial email or news. My brain was on
hold a few days ago...
Sean Luke U Maryland at College Park
seanl@cs.umd.edu Today's Chemical: Aluminum Zirconium Tetrachlorohydrex GLY
From: bigmouth1@aol.com (BIGMOUTH1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does NS on DEC alpha??
Date: 28 Mar 1995 18:55:09 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3la7kt$d5f@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
will it ??
thanx..im dying to know...
cant decide waht new comp. to get ..
thanx :)
LiFESPAN
yitz@datalife.com
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9503282035.AA14326@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 95 15:35:45 -0500
Subject: Re: want beep in Date program (sources available?)
Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com
Does anyone know how to make the Date program beep
when when it puts up appointment reminders? I couldn't
figure out how to include bells in the appointment
text. If the sources are available, maybe I could
modify the program. Anyone know?
I have one of those solutions which arrogantly assumes that you might
just want to swtich applications:
I think what you want to do can be done with Cassandra.app (or a
window, or both)
ftp site: 129.187.249.15
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5.N.b.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5d.README
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5d.s.README
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5d.s.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra_CalculatorWidget.README
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra_CalculatorWidget.s.tar.gz
ftp site: santiam.cs.orst.edu
/software/NeXT/binaries/misc/Cassandra15dist.tar.Z
TjL
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
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From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG html editor
Message-ID: <D643Jx.BJ@pages.com>
Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
References: <MAGNAN.95Mar27000052@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 18:33:33 GMT
In article <MAGNAN.95Mar27000052@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes:
>
> Is there any html WYSIWYG editor for NeXTSTEP?
> Thank you,
>
Yep. WebPages by Pages, from Pages Software Inc (he said modestly, looking
down and rubbing his toe in the dirt). To get information, send e-mail to
info@pages.com or check out our web site at http://www.pages.com/.
..bruce..
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From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 27 Mar 95 14:30:16
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ZHAO.95Mar27143016@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
References: <3kva6n$5hh@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <3l64sj$q6r@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In-reply-to: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de's message of 27 Mar 1995 10:43:31 GMT
> - Nextstep only offers EOF, and that's for programmers,
> not for users.
It is also for users. Well, if you want to run apps developed with
EOF, you have to have NEXTSTEP user-package + EOF. E.g. SpiderWoman.
8~[
From: sritchie@Eng.Sun.COM (Stuart Ritchie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Program to make cassette liners?
Date: 29 Mar 1995 08:11:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Message-ID: <3lb4o3$80l@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
Can someone point me to a NS 3.2 app to make audio cassette liners?
Thanks,
Stuart
From: ldiana@cabell.vcu.edu (Lewis Diana)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printer Problem
Date: 27 Mar 1995 17:39:34 -0500
Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l7er6$7da@cabell.vcu.edu>
Keywords: Panasonic Procommplus
Recently I installed procommplus but found my printer didn't
work. The checklist of printers from which I could make a
selection did not include the printer I have--Panasonic
KX-P1080i. I was unable to insert it in the checklist so I
selected the generic option. It works but not for print screen.
Also, when I use Microsoft Word 6, it will not print at all.
There is no Panasonic outlet in this area. Do I need to get a
driver for my printer that will work on these programs (both
for windows) or can I make some ajustment to get my printer to
work?
Lewis Diana
ldiana@cabell.vcu.edu
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 14:55:58 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950328155558.213AACUF.malc@daneel>
References: <3kva6n$5hh@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <3l64sj$q6r@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <ZHAO.95Mar27143016@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> It is also for users. Well, if you want to run apps developed with
> EOF, you have to have NEXTSTEP user-package + EOF. E.g. SpiderWoman.
>
Even for NS 3.3+...?
HF,
mmalc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hocker@samizdat (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Setting return address with tin?
Message-ID: <D664zI.4pD@samizdat>
Organization: The 341 Monmouth St. Network
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 20:59:41 GMT
I've got a UUCP link that still doesn't handle mail (I'm using POP right now)
and, as such, my email address doesn't really mean anything. Is there any
way with tin to make a reply-to field appear on every post so that I can
put my service-provider's address there?
And, out of curiousity, how does one change the default editor with tin? I
like vi for some things, but email and news is not one of them.
My email is "hocker@ritz.mordor.com", if anyone cares to respond that way ;)
Thanks.
Matt
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From: michael@mvhome.hesta.com (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG html editor
Date: 29 Mar 1995 05:07:45 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lapv1$lt2@corporate.hesta.com>
References: <3l97hm$7f@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
In article <3l97hm$7f@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at> tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin
Michlmayr) writes:
> Magnan Francois (magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA) wrote:
>
> / Is there any html WYSIWYG editor for NEXTSTEP?
>
Yep. Pages has just come up with a WEB authoring sytem taht is model
based and pretty nifty... Great example at http://www.pages.com/ too....
Contact Marc Mumford there...He's really helpful...
Good Luck!
From: michael@mvhome.hesta.com (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Death of Virtuoso?
Date: 29 Mar 1995 05:09:26 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3laq26$lt4@corporate.hesta.com>
References: <D664n2.FsE@eskimo.com>
Is Virtuoso really dead? Tell me it isn't so!
From: dchan@dchan.earthlink.net (Derek Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Nextime support for QT 2.0, QTVR
Date: 29 Mar 1995 08:08:02 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3lb4h2$1ls@mars.earthlink.net>
Has anyone heard anything about whether NeXT will build in support for
Quicktime 2.0 and Quicktime VR into NEXTIME?
-Derek
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From: lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette A. Williams)
Subject: Re: cursor tracking in SoftPC
Message-ID: <1995Mar29.001136.27546@leo.vsla.edu>
Organization: Virginia State Library
References: <3l9n8k$r6@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 00:11:36 GMT
I've had the same problem happen to me when I'm running
SoftPC...I notice it most during using MS Word or Excel...
usually after selecting something on the SoftPC menu, and then
immediately going into the Windows window...<shrug>
I'd be interested in whatever you find out about it.
Lucette
lawillia@leo.vsla.edu
Richmond, VA
From: ibhan@digitas.org (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC questions
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 15:35:03 -0500
Organization: Harvard University
Message-ID: <ibhan-2803951535030001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu>
I have a few questions about SoftPC that I was wondering if people could answer.
1. How much does it cost (include any academic discounts)?
2. Does it just run DOS/Windows, or other OS's as well (like OS/2)?
3. Anyone got a Windows 95 beta running in it?
4. Is it worth it?
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MPEG2 Audio Player?
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 28 Mar 95 11:03:34 GMT
Message-ID: <1749586.39814.17790@kcbbs.gen.nz>
References: <3l50qc$iem@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
> NEXTSTEP? Can NEXTTIME can play these audio files?
>
> BTW, is there a demo version of NEXTTIME anywhere?
>
> Dale
Golly, I've heard this "NeXTtime" thing mentioned a number of times now.
Could somebody people give me the word on what exactly this marvellous
piece of software does?
Oh and do you lot think that upgrading from NS3.0 to 3.3 is worthwhile?
Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Free LaTeX for NS?
Message-ID: <D65EG9.z2@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <3l6v0d$td@hecate.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:26:33 GMT
In article <3l6v0d$td@hecate.umd.edu> seanl@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Sean
Luke) writes:
> Just wondering if it exists and if so, how I can get it. Thanks!
Just take a look on your installation CD. There is a NeXTTeX.pkg in a
subdirectory called .../Packages (or so).
Michael
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From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Message-ID: <D6754C.6JK@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Insignia Solutions Ltd
References: <3kva6n$5hh@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:00:12 GMT
In article <3kva6n$5hh@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.stanford.edu
(Todd Takken) writes:
>
> Here is a letter I sent to NeXT's marketing department. Since I
haven't
> heard any response, I'm now posting it to the net.
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@jumpjibe.stanford.edu
>
>
> Dear Sirs:
>
> I am abandoning NextStep because you have priced your operating
> system out of the reach of private individuals and small-time software
> developers.
>
In 1990 NeXT's "Mission Statement" was something like:
"To make great computers out friends love and CAN AFFORD"
I can live with them dropping the first half (though the black hardware
was cool), but it loks like NeXT have got themselves some new friends.
The price of a NeXTStation (in the UK) when it was launched was 3225
pounds - ie you could by the hardware, throw it away and still save 2000
pounds on the current pricing!!!!
Ian
P.S. I'm going to put a disclaimer on this: This is a PERSONAL opinion
of someone whos been hacking NS for a long time at the poor end of the
market (academia). It in no way reflects my current position in the
commercial sector, or the opinion of my employer etc...
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From: ben@syd.au.swissbank.com (Ben "Donatello" Kelley)
Subject: Re: X in a window
Message-ID: <1995Mar29.011237.12423@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: SBC Australia
References: <3kuflq$7i@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 01:12:37 GMT
In article <3kuflq$7i@news.tuwien.ac.at>, e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl) writes:
]Hi,
]what X-Environments are available for next which run X in a
]NS window? Which are commercail products & which are PD?
]
]Thanx Otto
]
We run co-eXist here. I don't know all that much about where you get it
(anyone?) but it is a commercial product.
You can run in a couple of modes. One is called "takeover" mode, where
you have an X root window. In this mode, you can run your favourite window
manager. A faster mode - "integrated" mode allows you to use NeXT Step as
your window manager, and X applications appear just like NeXT applications.
The emulation is not perfect, but it is very good. According to the docs,
co-Xist supports OSF/Motif 1.2 and the X11R5 PHIGS Extension (PEX).
- Ben Kelley.
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From: sean@tcel.com (Sean Watkins)
Subject: POP Server for Intel Nextstep??
Keywords: POP NextStep Intel
Sender: usenet@tcel.com (Usenet Transfer Agent)
Organization: Telnet Canada Enterprises
Message-ID: <1995Mar28.230418.15658@tcel.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 23:04:18 GMT
Hi
Would someone kind that has a pop server compiled and running under NextStep for intel
uuencode and mail me the binaries???
Thanks,
Sean Watkins
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Death of Virtuoso?
Message-ID: <D664n2.FsE@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <3l95g1$clc@news.bu.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 20:52:14 GMT
Bryony Bechtold (bbry@bu.edu) wrote:
: With the recent buyout of Altsys by MacroMedia, I'm wondering what this means
: to the future of Virtuoso on NEXTSTEP. Which is to say, will there be one?
: With Wetpaint and Tiffany II, there seems to be no major gaping holes in the
: image editing department, but with the departure of Adobe Illustrator, and
: now Virtuoso (?), by way of drawing apps this leaves only Create if I'm not
: mistaken.
There is also Compose In Color.
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>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: NeXT text mail app
Date: 28 Mar 1995 16:20:13 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg/Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l9cvt$qm@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <D5wxIs.Bpy@samizdat>
Matthew Hocker (hocker@samizdat) wrote:
/ I don't need anything that reads NeXTmail or MIME neccesarily, but I do need
/ to read the mail.app files. /bin/mail doesn't cut it!
There has just been a discussion about this in February.
The people said that elm would use the same folders as NeXTmail does.
So it should work unless you want to view NeXTmail - but this is not
your case!
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From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG html editor
Date: 28 Mar 1995 14:47:18 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg/Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l97hm$7f@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <MAGNAN.95Mar27000052@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Magnan Francois (magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA) wrote:
/ Is there any html WYSIWYG editor for NEXTSTEP?
Erich Ruprecht wanted to start on such a project just a weeks weeks
ago. You should contact him at ruprecht@eimoni.tuwien.ac.at.
Hope this project is really going to be started!
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From: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham)
Subject: ATM driver for NSFIP
Message-ID: <D67oJn.3B5@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 16:59:47 GMT
Hi there,
Did someone write a driver for an ATM interface, or is anyone currently
working on such a driver? I'm extremely interested!
Regards,
Lien
Lien PHAM <lien@lysis.ch>
LYSIS SA
Cotes de Montbenon 8
1003 Lausanne
Switzerland
Tel: ++41 21 312 91 91
Fax: ++41 21 312 93 43
From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Date: 29 Mar 95 09:07:21 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1995Mar29.090721@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <3kva6n$5hh@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <796096702snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
In article <796096702snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>, Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar Systems) writes:
> I'm sure you're not the first to be forced away from NeXT by their prices and
> you certainly won't be the last.
Hi Todd and Paul,
Or you can do what I am doing. What is for individual users the big
advantage of NS3.3. I don't see it. And I wouldn't be surprised when
the same would happen with NS4. So I have decided to stick with
NS3.2 forever. And just wait until the breakthrough of something just
as state-of-the-art and innovative as NeXT was 5 years ago comes
along. History has learned that it probably will come out-of-the-blue
and not from an "establised" company like NeXT nowadays has become. In
the meanwhile my NeXT gives me enough still to explore.
Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: Re: Insignia and NeXT announce SoftPC 4.0
Message-ID: <D67u4y.4Fo@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <3lab6n$8n8@news.xmission.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 19:00:34 GMT
In article <3lab6n$8n8@news.xmission.com> kris@xmission.xmission.com
(Kristopher Magnusson) writes:
> I found an announcement in the Unix newsgroup on ClariNet concerning
> collaboration between NeXT and Insignia to produce SoftPC 4.0 for NEXTSTEP.
>
> The announcement said NeXT and Insignia will focus on improving graphics and
> serial performance for 4.0. Notably, the announcement didn't mention
> running Windows/DOS apps rootlessly.
Excuse me, I was under the impression SoftPC was already at 4.0. What is the
current version of SoftPC andis it usable?
Thanks,
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
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From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MPEG2 Audio Player?
Date: 29 Mar 1995 05:00:26 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3lapha$sdd@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <3l50qc$iem@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <1749586.39814.17790@kcbbs.gen.nz>
apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay) wrote:
>> NEXTSTEP? Can NEXTTIME can play these audio files?
>>
>> BTW, is there a demo version of NEXTTIME anywhere?
>>
>> Dale
>Golly, I've heard this "NeXTtime" thing mentioned a number of times
now.
> Could somebody people give me the word on what exactly this
marvellous
>piece of software does?
>Oh and do you lot think that upgrading from NS3.0 to 3.3 is
worthwhile?
>Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
NeXTime 1.0 was shipped(complimentary) to people who purchased 3.3
user before a certain date.
Basically its a movie viewer for QuickTime movies. It works with
extensions movie, avi and mov (I do not know what the names of these
formats are).
It is a neato app, but at the moment I can see no particular general
use for it.
I suspect NeXT would be more than happy to sell you a copy.
Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to kill
far@earthlink.net # one's fellow citizens, to betray friends,
Agoura Hills, CA # to be without faith, without mercy, without
# religion; by these means one can aquire power
# but not glory.
#
(NeXTmail prefered) # --Nicolo, Machiavelli
(MIMEmail welcome) #
From: kjt@copper.cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner (Staff))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Reading DOS Partition from NS
Date: 29 Mar 1995 15:38:10 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3lbut2$s07@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
I am running DOS/Windows in one hard disc partition and NS in the other.
Has
anyone cracked the problem of reading files while running NS which are
held
in the DOS partition? I know the disc organisation is totally different
for
DOS and NS. However, I've seen this problem solved with other operating
systems sharing a hard disc.
Thanks, Ken Turner
From: kjt@copper.cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner (Staff))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Converting CGM and WMF Files
Date: 29 Mar 1995 15:38:34 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3lbutq$s14@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
Is there a converter that will turn ".cgm" and ".wmf" files into something
readable by NS such as tiff? OmniImage doesn't seem to support these
formats.
Thanks, Ken Turner
From: kjt@copper.cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner (Staff))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Envelope Printing and Poste
Date: 29 Mar 1995 15:38:55 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3lbuuf$s1e@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
Poste is an old NS application that formats envelopes with the sender's
address, receiver's address and logo. I'm about to switch from black
hardware to Intel, so I'll lose a valued facility. Is there any equivalent
application? Is the source to Poste still available so I can recompile it
for Intel?
Thanks, Ken Turner
From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need two .newsrc for two different NNTP servers
Date: 30 Mar 1995 01:38:31 GMT
Organization: STARnet, L.L.C.
Message-ID: <3ld22n$q1l@news.starnet.net>
References: <9503292155.AA19254@alleg.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: luomat@alleg.EDU
^> What kind of a moron are you? RTFM isn't even good enough for you!
^> How about clicking on Info/Help before you go and waste bandwidth and
^> our time on these stupid questions! Why don't you go back to
^> whatever Mayberry town you came from and leave the rest of us alone!
^>
+> answer:
+> .newsrc.name.of.nntp.server1
+> .newsrc.name.of.nntp.server2
^ Denotes wasted bandwidth
+ Denotes reply from poster
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc.
email: neil@bMD.com
From: alex@talus.com (Alex Kolesov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is CDWriter ?
Date: 30 Mar 1995 01:42:47 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ld2an$sks@news.blkbox.com>
Keywords: CD
Does anyone know what's happen with the old app named CDWriter and where I
can find some information about it (maybe I can find it on some ftp site)?
Thanks a lot in advance for answer.
--
Alex A. Kolesov
alex@talus.com
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: InstantTeX: How to use SliTeX with figures??
Date: 30 Mar 1995 02:04:10 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3ld3iq$i10@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I just started playing with InstantTeX. Man, is it cool! So I decided
to do my talk in SliTeX using InstantTeX.
It works, but only if I don't include any figures.
I get the message "Environment figure undefined" at the start of
the \begin{figure}. I can succesfully load the figures if I use
plain TeX or LaTeX, but I haven't figured out how to get the big
sans serif fonts that SliTeX gives.
Is there a simple way of doing this on the NeXT?
Thanks,
David Finton
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can you play a wav file in a NeXT?
Date: 30 Mar 1995 07:45:12 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ldni9$5ag@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3l64eh$q6r@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3l64eh$q6r@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> Donald N. Petcher (petcher@moriah.covenant.edu) wrote:
>
> > What is a wav file? Can it be played on a NeXT? Is there a utility to
> > change it to a snd file or something?
>
> Get Resound 2.3 from ftp.cs.orst.edu. It's really neat stuff!
Or get GISO.app from ftp.cs.orst.edu (not sure if it's there). It can
convert and play many formats (.wav, .voc, etc)
Or get the MMSoundsInspector written by Malcolm Crawford that can play
wav and .aiff sounds in your Workspace-inspector
Greetings
--
Sven Droll __
______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
sdroll@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/
/_ _/ _/
"...and I see your schwartz =====\_/=======
is as big as mine" (Dark Helmet) LOGOUT FASCISM!
___________________________________________________________________
NeXT-mail welcome ;-))
From: cs@kau1.kodak.com (Craig Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reading Windows-HLP-files
Date: 21 Mar 1995 12:58:37 +1000
Organization: Kodak Australasia Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <3klfct$ojh@pub.kau2.kodak.com>
References: <1995Mar20.130638.432@gamelan.shnet.org>
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thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) writes:
>Is there any tool (PD) which can convert MS-Windows help files into
>something a NeXT or Unix (X11) machine can read/print ? Of course I'm not
>interested in SoftPC .
>Any pointers appreciated !
I'm not aware of any PD software that can do this, but we're currently
using a commercial product called HyperHelp, an X11/Motif product, that
is basically the Windows help engine implemented under UNIX/X11.
It can create help files that may be converted to Windows help files,
and I *think* Windows help files can be converted to HyperHelp files.
It costs about $2500 for each component (viewer, compiler, converter)
so it's not cheap. Try emailing info@bristol.com if you're interested.
--
=============================================================================
Craig Smith cs@kau1.kodak.com
(61 3) 353 2471 | You're looking hale and hearty, little buddy.
Kodak (Australia) Pty Ltd | I'm a coffee achiever, Sam.
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From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Death of Virtuoso?
Date: 29 Mar 1995 16:16:16 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <ERNEST.95Mar29081616@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
References: <D664n2.FsE@eskimo.com> <3laq26$lt4@corporate.hesta.com>
In-reply-to: michael@mvhome.hesta.com's message of 29 Mar 1995 05:09:26 GMT
> Is Virtuoso really dead? Tell me it isn't so!
It isn't so.
Well, probably. There was a post to nextpub from some company
(Goldleaf?), saying they were in discussions with the new owners to
work out some arrangement to provide upgrades. Apparently there
were some contractual commitments with Big Companies for future
versions, so there is legal incentive for Virtuoso's new owers to do
something. What and when is still up in the air.
Don't give up hope,
-- Ernie P.
--
Ernest N. Prabhakar, President, NEXTSTEP/OpenStep User Groups Intnl.
NeXT mail:ernest@caltech.edu "...your servants for Jesus' sake."
http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest/Home.htmld - II Cor 4:5b
"I speak for myself, and often for 'nugi', but never for Caltech."
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: RDBMS running on NS-SPARC
Date: 29 Mar 1995 02:55:00 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lai64$d0r@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <D5xwu0.11J@aptime.fdn.org>
chris@aptime.fdn.org writes:
> Is there any relationnal little database server running with a
> Sparc NEXTSTEP and providing a EOF adaptator ?
You might want to check into QuickBase from SofDesign. It's a
relational database that runs on NeXTSTEP platforms. They just
announced Release 4.1e, and it's supposed to run on SPARC as
well as the other NeXTSTEP platforms. It includes an EOF adaptor.
You should be able to send email to info@quickbase.com to get
details. You can pick up an evaluation copy for somewhere
between little and nothing. I think you can FTP it from:
ftp://ftp.sirius.com/pub/NeXT/demos/quickbase/
(which gets you a directory listing...). In there, you'd want file
QBInstaller.app.tar
(although it would probably be a good idea to check out the readme
files there first). There's also some mailing list you can get
on for QuickBase. Or you could call SofDesign Solutions at
603-547-8404 for some more details.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adjusting fonts, how?
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 11:01:54 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950330105550.20609C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hello,
subject says it all, but:
I don't want to know how to use the Fontspreferences. I want to know how
I can adjust the fonts for such things like: buttons, browsers etc.
I bought a new monitor and want to go with 1600x1200, All fonts are sized
to 16pt, but the text on buttons and in the browsers or on cycle gadgets
etc. still seems to be 10 or 12 pts!?
So I'm stuck with 1152x again ...
Greetings, and thanks in advance,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: InstantTeX: How to use SliTeX with figures??
Date: 30 Mar 1995 06:26:21 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3ldiud$lnr@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <3ld3iq$i10@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes:
>I just started playing with InstantTeX. Man, is it cool! So I decided
>to do my talk in SliTeX using InstantTeX.
>It works, but only if I don't include any figures.
>I get the message "Environment figure undefined" at the start of
>the \begin{figure}. I can succesfully load the figures if I use
>plain TeX or LaTeX, but I haven't figured out how to get the big
>sans serif fonts that SliTeX gives.
>Is there a simple way of doing this on the NeXT?
>Thanks,
>David Finton
I found it. Even though the Palette has a LaTeX button for
Begin/End Figure, you don't use it. All you have to do is
select a menu item File->Insert Picture, and an OpenPanel
comes up and lets you select a PostScript or EPS file. The
info is stuck into the file you're editing, and it works!
This app lets me see the changes to my document AS I TYPE
the LaTeX! Wow. That saves a lot of "compile/walk to the
printer" cycles for getting things to look right.
--David
From: aslsoft@aslgate (Software Group Acct)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RE: How to get a demo copy of NS for SPARC station
Date: 29 Mar 1995 10:35:49 GMT
Organization: Hong Kong SuperNET
Message-ID: <3lbd65$juv@tst.hk.super.net>
Summary: NEXTSTEP for sparc
Keywords: NEXTSTEP, SUN, SPARC, DEMO
Hi NeXT fans,
I have receive emails that told me that there is no
demo version of the NEXTSTEP OS for Sun Sparc station. Many
thanks to all of you who have replied to my previous posting.
Since there is no such demo-os, then does anybody
know which person (NEXT marketing person maybe?) should I contact
in order to get a sample disk (even a beta product may do it)?
I think I should add some details. I work for
Automated System Limited Hong Kong, and we are the main
SUN reseller/support company in Hong Kong. I am a NeXT user/fan
from the old black hardware day. I want to use the NEXTSTEP OS on
my Sun Sparc station at work. I also hope to convince my boss that
NEXTSTEP is a good os and that we should explore this market in Hong Kong.
regards,
Georges Chan
email: gchan@asl.com.hk
PS: The above statement does not reflect my boss nor my
company's opinion.
From: leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing WriteNow document
Date: 28 Mar 1995 09:42:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3l8lls$6lr@bilby.cs.uwa.oz.au>
References: <3l64lj$t8f@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
In article <3l64lj$t8f@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
pom@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) writes:
> On the ftp archives you find a demo version of OpenWrite. It's fully
> functional, but only for twenty minutes. But that's enough for reading a
> WriteNow file and printing it or export it in rtf- or Word- or
..-format.
> --
> Klaus Pommerening
> Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation
> der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet
> D-55101 Mainz, Germany
Unfortunately, the Demo of OpenWrite only allows import of WriteNow
documents in the Motorola version...probably to avoid exactly that very
function....can't have things getting to be too useful can we?
Nearly, Nearly...
--
Leigh Smith NeXTMail: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au
Computer Science Dept Phone: +61-9-380-1945,Fax:+61-9-380-1089
University of Home NeXTMail:leigh@psychokiller.dialix.oz.au
Western Australia Home Phone: +61-9-382-3071
*--=----=----=----=----=----=---====---=----=----=----=----=----=----=--*
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Ballistic Intel Mouse Driver?!?
Date: 29 Mar 1995 23:22:49 -0800
Organization: Cal Poly, State University
Message-ID: <3ldm89$65l@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste
Until recently my use of NEXTSTEP Intel machines was intermitent(SP?).
But I now use an Intel machine 12 hours a day, evry day and I noticed
something horrible, the NeXT Intel mouse drivers are not ballistic!
Moving across a 1280x1024 screen without a variable speed driver is
painful. This was something that I always loved about NeXTs.
Have I just managed to fry something or is the driver really not
variable speed? And if not, has anyone written one that is?
Thanks,
-Mont
Dover Pacific Computing Inc.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can't include more than 1 picture in NeXTTeX?? Help?
Date: 30 Mar 1995 09:31:58 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3ldtqe$spq@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <3ldr10$nk1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes:
>I'm writing a LaTeX file in NEXTSTEP. It works fine, as long
>as I don't include more than one picture. The InstantTeX ...
>If I include a second picture, or a second copy of the first
>picture, I get an error like:
>[7]
>! Undefined control sequence.
><argument> ...e N\epsfxsize \picsize \fi \epsfbox
> {\picfilename }
>\centerline #1->\@@line {\hss #1
> \hss }
>l.177 ...xsize \picsize\fi \epsfbox{\picfilename}}
> }\fi
>?
>What gives? It worked the first time. Here's what gets stuck
>in my LaTeX when I drop the picture in:
>%%Begin InstantTeX Picture
>\let\picnaturalsize=Y
>\def\picsize{6.0in}
>\def\picfilename{thotexpt.ps}
>%If you do not have the picture file add:
>%\let\nopictures=Y
>%to the beginning of the file.
>\ifx\nopictures Y\else{\ifx\epsfloaded Y\else\input epsf \fi
>\global\let\epsfloaded=Y
>\centerline{\ifx\picnaturalsize N\epsfxsize \picsize\fi \epsfbox{\picfilename}}}
>\fi
>%%End InstantTeX Picture
>Any leads will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>--David Finton
Addendum: If I change the line \global\let\epsfloaded=Y to
\let\epsfloaded=Y, things seem fine (so far!). I wonder if
this is a bug?
-df
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: philip@lysis.ch (Philip Moetteli)
Subject: ADKit by Markus Felten. Where reachable? Substitutes?
Message-ID: <D68xJu.5KK@eunet.ch>
Keywords: ADKit
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 09:11:54 GMT
Hi Netters
I just ame across an old demo in my libraries: ADKit, written by Markus
Felten.
This Kit offers different objects that deal with aspects of time: Time,
TimeRuler, Calendar, TimeDragging, Time-Interval-Choosing, etc.
That s exactly what I am looking for at the moment. Unfortunately there
can no address be found to contact the author. Does anybody here on the
net know his address?
Or does anybody know of something similar?
Please send me e-mails (philip@lysis.ch), because I can read the news just
once a week.
Thanks
Philip
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From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any VT200 emulators for NS/Intel?
Message-ID: <1995Mar23.132315.19255@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 23 Mar 95 13:23:14 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
In order to interface with a system on our university computers,
I need VT200 or better emulation, I am told. Is there a
VT200, 240, etc. emulator which will work like the Terminal
program?
Is there a way to specify a new keymap for use with specific
terminal windows in Termina?
Thanks for any suggestions?
Thomas J. Herbert
University of Miami
therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
tom@darwin.cox.miami.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
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Subject: Re: Insignia and NeXT announce SoftPC 4.0
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <D67u4y.4Fo@RnA.NL>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 22:19:57 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Mar29.221957.3456@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <D67u4y.4Fo@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL writes:
> In article <3lab6n$8n8@news.xmission.com> kris@xmission.xmission.com
> (Kristopher Magnusson) writes:
> > I found an announcement in the Unix newsgroup on ClariNet concerning
> > collaboration between NeXT and Insignia to produce SoftPC 4.0 for
NEXTSTEP.
> >
> > The announcement said NeXT and Insignia will focus on improving
graphics and
> > serial performance for 4.0. Notably, the announcement didn't mention
> > running Windows/DOS apps rootlessly.
>
> Excuse me, I was under the impression SoftPC was already at 4.0. What is
the
> current version of SoftPC andis it usable?
4.0 and yes, if you can really bring yourself to run DOS or Windows
programs.
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: Tim Griswold <tim@dancingbear.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Object Oriented Programming Competency Center
Date: 29 Mar 1995 01:49:18 GMT
Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center (MRTC)
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Keywords: OOP
OBJECT ORIENTED PROGRAMMING COMPETENCY CENTER PROPOSAL
Dancing Bear Enterprises is evaluating a proposal to create an
Object Oriented Programming Competency Center at the Research and
Technology Park on the island of Maui, Hawaii. This Center would
include programs to promote the development of a software industry
specializing in OOP related products and services. Appropriate
tools, training and testing environments would also be available.
We are looking for feedback to evaluate the level of interest in
the proposed center.
If you are interested in locating part or all of your development
staff at the OOP Competency Center or the Maui Research and Technology
Park, or would like to learn more about the proposed OOP Center, please take a
few moments and complete and return the our OOP Survey.
To receive a copy of the survey:
Email: mailback@dancingbear.com
with a subject of: OOP Survey (next)
If ASCII mail only, use: OOP Survey
If you have questions:
Email questions to: oop@dancingbear.com
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enter your question(s) in the body of the message
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From: rvazquez@huey.csun.edu (Pile Driver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OMNIWEB
Date: 29 Mar 1995 20:04:42 GMT
Organization: California State University, Northridge
Message-ID: <3lcegq$13h@dewey.csun.edu>
Can someone help, I have installed ppp, but can not get OMNIWEB to work!
RIck
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to get a demo copy of NS for SPARC station
Date: 28 Mar 1995 14:36:56 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg/Austria
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <3l96u8$7f@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <3l6en2$j18@tst.hk.super.net>
Software Group Acct (aslsoft@aslgate) wrote:
/ I am looking for a demo copy of NEXTSTEP os for Sun
/ Sparc Station, does any of you know where I should look for?
/ (Even a beta release will do it!) Any help is greatly appreciated.
Well, That is not so easy. For example you could purchase a beta version
of OS/2, but NeXT only sells final versions.
If you are a big company you could try your luck and ask NeXT for a CD-ROM
which you could test a few days.
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at
GNU OpenStep Development Team, Manager of the Documentation Department
http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/gnustep.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Is there a Netscape for NS?
Message-ID: <eldD687pt.LxE@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 23:53:53 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom18.netcom.com
FTP site wanted
I have an old version of Mosaic, but where can I find a new and improved
web browser? NetscapeMosaic, or Netscape?
ericd
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Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9503292119.AA16828@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 95 16:18:48 -0500
Subject: Need two .newsrc for two different NNTP servers
How can I maintain two distinct .newrc files, and how can I tell
NewsGrazer which one it should use?
Thanks
TjL
--
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
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Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 95 16:55:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Need two .newsrc for two different NNTP servers
Timothy J. Luoma asked:
How can I maintain two distinct .newrc files, and how
can I tell NewsGrazer which one it should use?
What kind of a moron are you? RTFM isn't even good enough for you!
How about clicking on Info/Help before you go and waste bandwidth and
our time on these stupid questions! Why don't you go back to
whatever Mayberry town you came from and leave the rest of us alone!
answer:
.newsrc.name.of.nntp.server1
.newsrc.name.of.nntp.server2
TjL
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Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Date: 29 Mar 1995 17:19:20 GMT
Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lc4qo$h34@pong.ping.at>
References: <SAMURAI.95Mar24214201@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
Originator: wa@s051
In article <SAMURAI.95Mar24214201@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> > > I am
abandoning NextStep because you have priced your operating
> >system out of the reach of private individuals and small-time software
> >developers.
While the price for the "naked" operating system is not the problem for
me, I agree about the new prices for the development system. If they are
that expensive now they should at least give users with lower budgets some
options to buy only parts of the whole system, say "Compiler only",
"Compiler with Interface Builder" or something like that.
- Wolfgang
--
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Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690
A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817
Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
From: mferman@gate.net (Berta Ferman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP
Date: 30 Mar 1995 23:11:38 GMT
Message-ID: <3lfdra$1e4s@tequesta.gate.net>
if anyone has the menu program direct acess 5 please email the little
program to mferman@gate.net I tried calling the company but they went out
of business. i really like that little menu program. mferman@gate.net
From: ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys (Stefan Ried)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need two .newsrc for two different NNTP servers
Date: 30 Mar 1995 09:02:30 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <3lds36$136@sun1.uni-essen.de>
References: <9503292119.AA16828@alleg.EDU>
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
>How can I maintain two distinct .newrc files, and how can I tell
>NewsGrazer which one it should use?
May be you use Alexandra.app as Newsreader. It supports multiple nntp
servers very nice.
stef
From: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Framemaker 2.0d prob: crashes on nonstandard fonts
Date: 31 Mar 1995 01:42:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3lfmmg$ls6@agate.berkeley.edu>
Whenever I try to switch from the standard 5 fonts in Frame-
Maker to ones I just installed (albeit without manual pages)
FrameMaker crashes neatly.
Has anyone ever encountered this problem? Is there a FAQ on
font installation somewhere? My fonts work in Create and Write-
Now just fine and will print. They're in a standard directory.
--
*******************************************************
Jessica L. Mosher
NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
--John Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cjones@netcom.com (Carl Jones)
Subject: TeleFAX 14.4 modem question
Message-ID: <cjonesD6AD98.HJE@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 03:48:44 GMT
Sender: cjones@netcom3.netcom.com
Is there any software that supports Gateway/2000 TeleFAX 14.4 modems for
faxing (either freeware or shareware). Can I use NXFAX? If so, how do I
configure it?
thanks,
carl
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From: petcher@moriah.covenant.edu (Donald N. Petcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: playing .wav sounds?
Date: 30 Mar 1995 00:28:58 GMT
Organization: I'm not really all that organized.
Message-ID: <3lcu0a$6e0@bunyan.covenant.edu>
References: <950327100535.261AACUN.malc@daneel>
In article <950327100535.261AACUN.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford
<m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
> >> Anyone know of a NeXT app/service which can play sound files of
> >> the .wav format type?
> >
> >GISO.app. It's an app-wrapper for sox.
> >
> You could also install MMSoundInspector.
> It's a Workspace sound inspector which reads and plays .snd, .au, .wav
and
[Munch]
Thanks to you, and also to the others who pointed me to GISO. I am now
happily trying out wav files with both programs.
Cheers,
Don Petcher
From: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca (Marek Roland-Mieszkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: *** DFG for NeXT, Intel, Sun and HP ***
Message-ID: <1995Mar30.225607.36578@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 30 Mar 95 22:56:06 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
4-Fat demos, January 30, 1995
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
For more information please contact
===================================
Digital Recordings - Advanced R & D
5959 Spring Garden Road, Suite 1103
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3H-1Y5, Canada
Tel./ Fax. (902) 429-9622
E-mail: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
DFG and DFG_RT software is now available for 4 architectures :
==============================================================
NeXT, Intel, HP and Sun
=======================
4-Fat demo software is available now via ftp or directly from
Digital Recordings via NeXTmail.
DFG - Introduction
==================
DFG_RTdemo.app is a demo module for real-time synthesis of the
sinusoidal (pure tone) signal.Signals are generated in real time
and do not require the DSP processor (which is not available in
some NeXTSTEP computers).This version should work on all Motorola
Intel, Sun and HP computers with NeXTSTEP versions 2.* => 3.* and
equipped with D/A converters.
This program works very nicely with Digital Oscilloscope and
Spectrum Analyzer (both applications come with NeXT) and any
recording / editing software. Playback and recording/analysis
of the signal could be done simultaneously since DSP chip is not
used and main processor is used only 2-3% during signal production.
DFG_RT is an ideal signal source for research and teaching in the
fields of acoustics, psychoacoustics, electronics, electroacoustics,
physics, mechanics, vibration measurements, architecture, audiology
and transducer testing.
DFG Software Specifications / Parameters
=========================================
o Stereo output (independent R and L channel)
o Frequency adjustable continuously from 0 to 22,000 Hz.
o Frequency stability : +/- 0.0001 Hz at 1000 Hz
o Amplitude adjustable continuously from -140 to 0 dB
o Amplitude stability : +/- 0.00026 dB at 0 dB
o Phase adjustable continuously from 0 to 360 degrees.
o S/N ratio = 95 dB
DFG_RT Modules
===============
Currently there are 8 modules available in DFG_RT software :
DFG_RTsine.app - for generating pure tones (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsquare.app - for generating square wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTtriangular.app - for generating triangular wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTsawtooth.app - for generating sawtooth wave (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTpulse.app - for generating delta-pulse train (1->22,000 Hz).
DFG_RTnoise.app - for generating white noise in 0->22,050 Hz
range.
DFG_RTnoiseNB.app - for generating narrow band noise from
100->200 Hz to 11,000->22,000 range.
DFG_RTnoiseNBv.app - for generating narrow band noise with
bandwidth adjustable from 20 Hz to 2,000 Hz
and center frequency adjustable from 1 Hz
to 22,000 Hz.
DFGdemo.app and DFG_RTdemo.app are available on the following FTP sites
========================================================================
( please look for the files DFGdemo.app.tar.Z and DFG_RTdemo.app.tar.Z )
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl/pub2/next/submissions
==> Note 1: Also, you can obtain latest software via NeXTmail
*********** directly from: mmieszko@ac.dal.ca
==> Note 2: We are looking forward to feedback, specially from
*********** users of NeXTSTEP on Sun and HP platforms on which
DFG software was not tested yet. Thanks in advance
for your help !
From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NeXTstep Developer CD fat?
Date: 31 Mar 1995 08:38:18 GMT
Organization: WHU Koblenz
Message-ID: <3lgf1q$qba@obelix.WHU-Koblenz.de>
Hi,
does anybody know, if the NeXTstep developer CD ist fat like the 3.2
(NeXT/Intel) or are there multiple CDs?
Please answer per email, as my incoming news-connection is a bit weird. I
will give a summary here.
Thank you in advance,
Wolfgang
--
Dipl.-Wirtsch.-Inf. Voice: +49 261 6509 173
Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 261 6509 179
WHU Koblenz E-Mail: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de
Burgplatz 2 (NeXTmail ok)
D-56179 Vallendar
Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
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From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: SCSI Bus errors (adaptec 154cf / NS 3.3)
Message-ID: <jpanicoD68CJ3.K0M@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3l6blj$83c@op1d56cmp.il.us.swissbank.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 01:37:50 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom5.netcom.com
Philippe Steindl (psteindl@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
: Hia People,
: anybody has some idea why I get scsi bus tiemouts and such under NS 3.3?
: I am using an adaptec 1542CF scsi adapter with an IBM E15 disk. This
: never made problems under linux, but since I'm running NS, the SCSI bus
: keeps going nuts every 3 reboots. This is kind of very annoying.
: Anyone?
: Philippe Steindl
Is your bus terminated? Most SCSI problems relate to termination. What
exactly are the symptoms of the timeout? I had some problems with
an adaptec 154x under NSI 3.2, which recquired a patch, but I would assume
that Next fixed the problem for 3.3.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Samba SMB Server For NS 3.2 FIP
Message-ID: <westesD6AsnG.J6A@netcom.com>
Organization: U.S. Computer
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 09:21:15 GMT
Sender: westes@netcom16.netcom.com
Does anyone have any advice for compiling or running the Samba SMB
server on NS FIP 3.2? There are only two lines to uncomment for
NeXT 3.2 in the Makefile, but there appear to be a lot of warnings
during the compile. Are there any special usage notes for NeXTSTEP?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is suddenly crasing frequently
Message-ID: <1995Mar31.105832.1302@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3lf7t0$ivi@saims.skidmore.edu>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 10:58:32 GMT
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu wrote:
>I've been using Newsgrazer for the NeXT for a long time now, but all
of a
>sudden it will only run for about 3 minutes...then suddenly
terminates.
>Can anyone give me any pointers on how to find out what's suddenly
started
>causing this trouble. I've not upgraded any software or hardware for
over
>a year or two now.
>thanks
>Anthony Holland
>Skidmore College
>tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
Remove/rename the file .newsrc from your home directory.
or
Get Alexandra.app GNU/PD NNTP news-reader.
Cheers
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NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA
10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France
Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 45 28 32 23
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3ld3iq$i10@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Control: cancel <3ld3iq$i10@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Date: 30 Mar 1995 06:27:08 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3ldivs$lns@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
cancel <3ld3iq$i10@spool.cs.wisc.edu> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software
This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #3 (NOV)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: MPEG2 Audio Player?
Message-ID: <1995Mar30.120200.8897@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3l50qc$iem@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <1749586.39814.17790@kcbbs.gen.nz> <3lapha$sdd@mars.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 12:02:00 GMT
BTW is there a NeXTime for HP?
Thanks
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NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA
10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France
Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 45 28 32 23
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is suddenly crasing frequently
Date: 31 Mar 1995 22:30:50 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lhvqq$o10@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3lf7t0$ivi@saims.skidmore.edu>
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu writes:
> I've been using Newsgrazer for the NeXT for a long time now, but
> all of a sudden it will only run for about 3 minutes...then
> suddenly terminates. Can anyone give me any pointers on how to
> find out what's suddenly started causing this trouble. I've not
> upgraded any software or hardware for over a year or two now.
The problem is that someone recently posted an article, apparently
by mistake, which was cross-posted to quite a lot of newsgroups.
The Newsgroups line in the articles are up over 700 characters,
and NewsGrazer dies if it hits an article with a very long list of
Newsgroups. (I'm not quite sure where the cutoff is, probably
around 500 characters. Maybe it depends on the number of newsgroups
lised, and not the length of the line). There are other kinds of
articles that will cause NewsGrazer to crash too, this is just the
most likely cause for crashes that you've just started seeing.
If you have direct access to the files that are usenet articles
(ie, if you can get to a machine that NFS-mounts usenet spool),
then you can do a scan in each newsgroup to find which articles
have the long newsgroup lines.
If you don't have direct access (ie, your only access is via NNTP),
then it gets a bit more tedious. You'd want to turn off "Prefetch
article titles" in NewsGrazer's preferences, and then go thru
articles until you find one that crashes newsgrazer.
In either case, once you find the problematic articles, you'd have
to edit your .newsrc file (ick), and add the article to the list of
articles that you have read in that newsgroup. This can be a bit
tedious, but it'd let you get around the problem.
It probably wouldn't be too hard to write a stupid little NNTP
"reader", which would read your .newsrc file and then find all
articles that would cause NewsGrazer to choke. I haven't tried
to do that though.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jbaugher@amadeus.glenqcy.glenayre.com (Jason Baugher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: KSH for Next m68 and Intl
Date: 1 Apr 1995 08:49:34 GMT
Organization: Glenayre Electronics
Message-ID: <3lj42u$3b2@babylon5.glenqcy.glenayre.com>
I am trying to find ksh to compile on NextStep 3.2 on Intel and Motorola.
So far, the only thing I have found is pdksh5.1.0, which compiles ok.
The problem is that when I use it as my shell, it seems to cause problems
with things that want to write to stdout.
ex. more .profile
[1] stopped (tty output) more .profile
su seems to do the same thing, as well as starting a new shell with
csh.
If I knew what was wrong with this, I could use it. Otherwise, I need
to find different source.
--
--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
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jbaugher@glenqcy.glenayre.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9503310907.AA19624@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 04:07:35 -0500
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is suddenly crasing frequently
Cc: acsn-software@alleg.EDU
Anthony Holland <tholland@pars.skidmore.edu> wrote:
I've been using Newsgrazer for the NeXT for a long
time now, but all of a sudden it will only run for
about 3 minutes...then suddenly terminates. Can anyone
give me any pointers on how to find out what's suddenly
started causing this trouble. I've not upgraded any
software or hardware for over a year or two now.
My assumptions are that 1) you are using List View 2) you have
NewsGrazer set to prefetch titles.
If that is true, then what has likely happened is that one of your
subscribed groups has a header which (in non-technical terms) causes
NewsGrazer to get sick and blow bandwidth-sized chunks. (posts in
comp.unix.questions often do this to me)
The only solution I have found is to turn off the prefetching of
titles and go through each subscribed group until the post is found,
then edit the .newsrc to appear that you have already read that post.
If you have nice sys-admins, they might delete that post from your
server if you give them all the pertinent info.
If NewsGrazer crashes before you can change the preference for
Prefetching, then change it via dwrite in terminal:
# for prefetching
dwrite NewsGrazer NewsGrazerPrefetchArticleTitles 1
# for no prefetching
dwrite NewsGrazer NewsGrazerPrefetchArticleTitles 0
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: aalto@nmt.edu (Eugene Aalto)
Subject: Where can i find NetHack for NS
Message-ID: <1995Mar30.040459.25145@nmt.edu>
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 04:04:59 GMT
Where can i find NetHack 3.1 for NS 3.0 (Black)
Thanks,
Eugene Aalto
From: murphy@wsc.com (Paul Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ATM driver for NSFIP
Date: 31 Mar 1995 14:35:08 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <MURPHY.95Mar31093508@eos.wsc.com>
References: <D67oJn.3B5@eunet.ch>
In-reply-to: lien@lysis.ch's message of Wed, 29 Mar 1995 16:59:47 GMT
> In article <D67oJn.3B5@eunet.ch> lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) writes:
>
> Did someone write a driver for an ATM interface, or is anyone currently
> working on such a driver? I'm extremely interested!
I would also be very interested in this. I haven't heard anything from
NeXT about ATM support. I hope some third party is working on it.
Thanks.
Paul Murphy
murphy@wsc.com
From: cadilhac@arles.univ-rennes1.fr (Nicolas Cadilhac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Inspector for PGP
Date: 31 Mar 1995 10:19:39 GMT
Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France
Message-ID: <3lgkvr$gbo@news.univ-rennes1.fr>
I did an inspector for pgp. It allows an automatic decryption.
I just need a professional icon. If someone can draw one for me, I'll give
him my inspector.
Of course, if someone wants this inspector, it's available ... :) but I'd
prefer to release it with a great icon for the encrypted document.
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From: dwright@omni.voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can a NeXTDimension system capture video?
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 14:06:26 LOCAL
Organization: D & G Micro
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I have a ND System, that included a package called Mediastation...
My question is, can the ND board capture realtime video? Do I need special
software?? I have seen mentioned the name Digital Eyes.....is that the only
way to get video?
If the ND system Cannot get video, what the heck is the sense of all the video
stuff?
Any answers?
-Darren
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From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sendmail problem w/3.3
Date: 1 Apr 1995 13:56:08 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <3ljm1o$e2o@news.tamu.edu>
References: <3lf0qg$jcd@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
In article <3lf0qg$jcd@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>,
Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> wrote:
>I just recently got PPP up and running on this turbo color; I had NeXTmail in
>both directions - life was good. I installed NS3.3 the other night, and no
>more sendmail...everything I try to ship out from nextmail bounces...
>
>I broke out the documentation on Sendmail, and about the first thing they say
>is "DON'T UNDERTAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING CONFIG FILES, UNLESS YOU'RE
>ABSOLUTELY SURE....." Well I'm not...so I thought it prudent to seek help on
>this deal. I can receive NeXTmail...just no outgoing.
You don't say what the bounce message tells you, but I'll take a guess
at the problem.
As I recall, NS as distributed has sendmail.cf set up as a link to
sendmail.subsidiary.cf. Make it a link to sendmail.mailhost.cf and
I bet your problem will be solved.
Lusty
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 10:54:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Where can i find NetHack for NS
Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com
Where can i find NetHack 3.1 for NS 3.0 (Black)
the best I can suggest is:
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Games/strategic/NetHack.N
I.b.tar.gz
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Games/strategic/NetHack.README
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Games/strategic/NetHack.s.tar.gz
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/games/nethack.3.0.N.bs.tar.gz
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/games/nethack.README
TjL
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If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
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From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT CD Player app
Date: 31 Mar 1995 03:51:16 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3lfu7k$pif@network.ucsd.edu>
There are 12 buttons on the NeXT CD Player panel, but there is no HELP file to
ecplain them. All but two or three are incomprehensible to me. Does anyone
know of a HELP file for this app, or a listing, or just what they are?
Also, does anyone know how to punch in a number for a selection greater than
20? There are only 20 selection buttons in the panel.
Thanks very much in advance.
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: Tim Griswold <tim@dancingbear.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Info wanted: Price of Daydream
Date: 30 Mar 1995 17:40:01 GMT
Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center (MRTC)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3leqdh$c5v@kahu.mrtc.maui.com>
References: <1995Mar22.035245.1067@kira.net.netcom.com>
In article <1995Mar22.035245.1067@kira.net.netcom.com>
netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) writes:
> Can someone let me know either (a) an email address for the makers of
> Daydream .....
Daydream is produced by QUIX Computerware AG, Ebikon Switzerland. Their email
is QUIX@AppleLink.Apple.COM. Dancing Bear Enterprises has sold the product
since its introduction for $795. QUIX has a wide variety of prices depending on
edu, user group and standard list. We have one remaining unit that we are
selling for $655.
Thanks,
Tim Griswold
Maui Research & Technology Center
Dancing Bear Enterprises
590 Lipoa Parkway
Kihei, HI 96753
USA
Phone: 808-875-2456
Fax: 808-874-3650
Internet: tim@dancingbear.com (ascii - nextmail - mime)
PGP: public key on request
_______________________________________________________________________
For info on Dancing Bear's Products and services, email:
mailback@dancingbear.com
On the Subject line, list the document names you would like to receive
separated by a ","
help - A document describing how to access documents on MAiLBACK
index - An index of the documents available
catalog - DBE's current catalog
fonts - A listing of currently available fonts
clearance sale - A list of items currently on sale
mailback - An description of the MAiLBACK software
contest rules - Rules to enter DBE's MAiLBACK Uses Contest
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From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: XoXWars for XoX.app
Date: 30 Mar 1995 18:29:01 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9503310027.AA03179@alleg.EDU>
Has anyone gotten this to work? if so, how?
It keeps crashing when I try click on it, and this message appears:
Xox[8690]: objc: Thinker: does not recognize selector
-addImageResource:for:
The other modules seem to work fine.
Thanks
TjL
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NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com (Howard Ship)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is suddenly crasing frequently
Date: 31 Mar 1995 15:00:21 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <3lh5e5$82v@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <3lf7t0$ivi@saims.skidmore.edu>
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu writes
> I've been using Newsgrazer for the NeXT for a long time now, but all of a
> sudden it will only run for about 3 minutes...then suddenly terminates.
> Can anyone give me any pointers on how to find out what's suddenly started
> causing this trouble. I've not upgraded any software or hardware for over
> a year or two now.
I had the same problem periodically. Apparently, NewsGrazer has a low
tolerance for poorly formatted posts, and crashes without a clue when it gets
one.
I would be your subscribe to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.* ... I had severe trouble
with that group recently.
Start up NewsGrazer, quickly go to Preferences and turn prefetch article titles
off.
Go to a suspect group and manually click on each line to get the summary. Use
Record read article often. Eventually, you'll click on an article and
NewsGrazer will die.
Edit ~/.newsrc, find the line for the news group and add the bad article number
to it (as if you have already read it). Restart NewsGrazer, put prefetch back
on and hope for the best.
If the articles aren't important, you can edit .newsrc and mark all articles in
the group read, just find out the highest article number from NewsGrazer.
This situtation sucks ... even if it crashed and wrote the bad article to the
console (it certainly complains endlessly about the malloc thing).
Another Next-ism. It's free, but it doesn't work, and we wont fix it and we
wont give out the source code.
--
Why don't you ever enter and CONTESTS, Marvin??
Don't you know your own ZIPCODE?
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"I lurk not, neither do I flame." [NeXT Mail 3.3 / MIME Mail OK]
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From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: X windows on a Mono Station???
Message-ID: <D6BGA4.Fv@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <cetesse-2903952235360001@dialin3.slip.uky.edu>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 17:51:39 GMT
In article <cetesse-2903952235360001@dialin3.slip.uky.edu>
cetesse@ukcc.uky.edu (Christopher E. Etesse) writes:
> Where can I find the source to run X on a single (no network
> connection) machine?
There is a directory .../next/X11/server/MouseX on
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, which is a free X-Server for black
hardware only. Perhaps you find it on an american server, too
Michael
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From: AmEuro@cambridge.village.com (Vadim Afonkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WANTED!!!
Date: 1 Apr 1995 15:59:09 -0500
Organization: Village of Cambridge
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lkeqt$bpb@cambridge.village.com>
I need the "SANTA" software. Thank's for your help!
From: (Charles de Montebello) clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextDeveloper demos
Date: 1 Apr 1995 23:07:10 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3lkmau$4di@news.panix.com>
To All,
Idiotically, I deleted some of the demos that I thought I didn't like and
now I want to get them back. I can't seem to. When I reinstall the
DeveloperTools.pkg they don't reappear...
Then I de-installed the tools and reinstalled them and that didn't work
either. Do I need to de-install all parts of NextDeveloper for this to
work and, if so, will this screw with my other Apps?
All that comes back from the tools .pkg are two demos: Appinspector and
DDMModeler.
Any ideas?
Thanks. Charles.
From: rog@talisker.ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Astraloids
Date: 30 Mar 1995 13:59:06 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ledfa$at@mailer.york.ac.uk>
References: <3k4csc$d9e@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> <3knjfs$9a@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
does anybody know of another site (pref. in europe) that contains
astraloids ?
i've tried ftp.cs.orst.edu several times, but each time the transfer has been
aborted about 900K into the file. most annoying (particularly as it's impossible
to restart a transfer half way through)
alternatively, if anyone would be kind enough to mail be a copy, i would be most
gratified.
cheers,
rog. (badly in need of some entertainment at the moment!)
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From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT CD Player app
Date: 01 Apr 1995 00:04:22 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Mar31190422@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3lfu7k$pif@network.ucsd.edu>
In-reply-to: passim@helium.ucsd.edu's message of 31 Mar 1995 03:51:16 GMT
<passim@helium.ucsd.edu> writes:
> There are 12 buttons on the NeXT CD Player panel, but there is no HELP file to
>ecplain them. All but two or three are incomprehensible to me. Does anyone
>know of a HELP file for this app, or a listing, or just what they are?
> Also, does anyone know how to punch in a number for a selection greater than
>20? There are only 20 selection buttons in the panel.
> Thanks very much in advance.
>H. Craig
>passim@helium.ucsd.edu
Congratulations! You've just used your first Keith Ohlfs app :-).
____ +------------+
/ \ | |
| a | | b |
\____/ | |
| |
+------------+
+---+ +---+ +---+ +---+
| c | | d | | e | | f |
+---+ +---+ +---+ +---+
+---------+ +---------+
| g | | h |
+---------+ +---------+
(t) (r)(s)
+---+ +---+ +---+ +---+
| i | | j | | k | | l |
| | | | | | | |
+---+ +---+ +---+ +---+
+---+ +---+ +---+ +---+
| m | | n | | o | | p |
| | | | | | | |
+---+ +---+ +---+ +---+
+---------------------+ (q)
+---------------------+
(a) Play Indicator -- Shows current play section. Click it to change.
(b) Track Matrix -- Jump to given track.
(c) Play to end and stop.
(d) Play to end, and loop.
(e) Play current track and loop.
(f) Random play.
(g) Current track.
(h) Time passed for current selection.
(i) Eject.
(j) Stop.
(k) Pause.
(l) Play.
(m) Back one track.
(n) Forward one track.
(o) Reverse.
(p) Fast forwards.
(q) Volume (may not work).
Secret buttons:
(r) Debug Play Mode.
(s) Dump disk catalog to standard out.
(t) Bring up "track field". You can enter a track number to jump to.
That's it. Have fun.
- db
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From: jgates@netcom.com (Jeffrey K. Gates)
Subject: collection device
Message-ID: <jgatesD6Bs1J.MAu@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 22:05:42 GMT
Sender: jgates@netcom.netcom.com
I am looking for software that will run on a NextStep or HP/UX server
that can read data from an RS-232 device (like a time clock) and deposit
that data into a Sybase file.
If you have any such information, please reply Peter Maguire
pmaguire@skyway.com
From: chipsig@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scantastic problem w/3.3
Date: 30 Mar 1995 16:09:56 -0800
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338)
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3lfh8k$bl3@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
I should have known, because EVERY NS upgrade, from 3.0, to 3.1 to 3.2 has
caused problems with ScanTastic, .... but I did it anyway; I upgraded to 3.3.
Arrggghh!! I did call Second Glance to get an imprimatur on the upgrade..
"no problems" they said. Wrong!!!
First the app won't open. Okay, delete the old; stick in a new copy. Bad
message "NFR (not for resale) time limit has expired" ????? I paid for the app.
Call Second Glance and ask for help. New binaries...no good. The app won't
stay open..it instantly closes upon opening.
Anyone else using this delicate application with NS 3.3 for the black stuff?
Any problems? Any solutions? Time to go to ExtraScan I guess.
Chip
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From: john.bartholdi@isye.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: default shell
Date: 30 Mar 1995 18:19:00 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3lesmk$2r9@mordred.gatech.edu>
can anyone suggest how to change my default shell?
when I choose "bash" under terminal preferences the setting is
lost as soon as I close the preferences window and reset to "ksh".
Thanks,
jjb
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Java for NEXTSTEP
Date: 31 Mar 1995 18:59:43 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lhjev$1ki@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>
References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950328114130.9644E@martha>
Terry Moore (tmoore@martha) wrote:
/ Does anyone know whether or not a port of the HotJava Browser and the
/ Java interpreter for NEXTSTEP are planned (or could be lobbied for). If
I don`t know if anyone is already working on it, but they are looking
for persons who are interested in doing a port. The source code is not
publicly distributed yet, but you would get a copy if you would start
a port. They have created a mailing list for persons interested in
porting. I think this would be the best place for you!
http://java.sun.com/porting.html:
INQUIRIES ABOUT PORTING
We have established a mailing list for porting issues. To subscribe,
send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a message to
java-porting-request@java.sun.com. If you prefer to read the mail in
digest form, send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a message to
java-porting-digest-request@java.sun.com.
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GNU OpenStep Development Team, Manager of the Documentation Department
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From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: vgetty under NS ...
Date: 02 Apr 1995 12:58:21 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznftysdmvsvj@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
Right, we'll I've compiled up vgetty under NS and it runs sort of.
Interestingly, when I compiled without DBROKENVTIME it definately was
doing some strange stuff. ie. when somebody leaves a message they get
two tones rather than one tone and basically it misses their message
and a file with 16 bytes gets left in incoming. Also in the log itself
there was large occurences of consecutive spaces.
I've recompiled with BROKENVTIME and hopefully that will fix things.
I've another question though... I'm no POSIX termios god but it seems
that mgetty can be compiled using sgttyb instead of using termios. I
think this is the right thing to do under NeXTSTEP given it's strange
posix support. The only other posix dependency seems to be uname.
Anyway, am I right in assuming that vgetty doesn't allow this
ie. vgetty is specifically written to use termios because it accesses
members of the termios struct?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it possible to take serveral g3-fax files and build a .fax file out
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From: Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar Systems)
Subject: Re: NextDeveloper demos
References: <3lkmau$4di@news.panix.com>
Organization: Myorganisation
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 12:21:17 +0000
Message-ID: <796825277snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
The other demos are on the NEXTSTEP User CD, not the Developer CD.
All you need to do is install the Demonstrations.pkg from
/NextCD/Packages.
Paul.
From: Joe Freeman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is suddenly crasing frequently
Date: 1 Apr 1995 12:57:56 GMT
Organization: US Net
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3ljikk$a92@ns.us.net>
References: <3lh5e5$82v@transfer.stratus.com>
I agree 100%. There is no excuse for not fixing this bug. Its not like
the failure is difficult to repeat or something. My personal opinion is
that they should just fix the thing and put it in the demos directory. I
mean OS/2 comes with network tools now, and Win 95 is going to come with
news and web apps. Why doesn't the advanced NS system. The only answer
that can be is that someone doesn't "get it" yet.
In article <3lh5e5$82v@transfer.stratus.com> hship@sinistar.cac.stratus.com
(Howard Ship) writes:
> This situtation sucks ... even if it crashed and wrote the bad article to
the
> console (it certainly complains endlessly about the malloc thing).
>
> Another Next-ism. It's free, but it doesn't work, and we wont fix it and
we
> wont give out the source code.
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 301.279.2387
From: (Charles de Montebello) clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextDeveloper demos
Date: 2 Apr 1995 16:25:54 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3lmj6i$h5b@news.panix.com>
References: <3lkmau$4di@news.panix.com>
Thanks to all that responded. I found them...
Charles.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FrameMaker for Sparc?
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:14:49 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950402151449.417AACUP.malc@daneel>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Does anyone know if ther will be a version of FrameMaker for NS/Sparc? I'd
heard rumours that Frame 5 would be available for all NS platforms...
Given the direction OpenStep's going, I'd have thought it would make sense
for Frame to write an NS version based on FoundationKit, which would make a
future Sparc version easier?
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: robert@audrey.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Text to speech software?
Date: 02 Apr 1995 16:21:50 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznftyfmr59w5@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
Anybody have any text to speak software for NeXTSTEP 3.2?
I've seen rsynth but it doesn't do what I want..
I need to be able to generate either linear or au format on stdout so
that I can convert it.
--
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From: yung-cha@cae.wisc.edu (Yung-Chang Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Internal error 1000 occur!??? Please help me!
Date: 1 Apr 1995 18:58:38 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Message-ID: <3lk7ou$lni@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <3l6blj$83c@op1d56cmp.il.us.swissbank.com>
Hi,
I installed NSFIP user 3.3 and develop 3.2 yesterday. I also installed OS/2 boot manager
to boot Linux, OS/2 and Linux. The problem is I keep getting internal error 1000 after I login
to NS. The system seems boot correctly, it showed the login box. After I typed user name and
password, system shoewed internal error 1000, and then asked user to continue or logout.
Both ways lead my system into just blank desktop(no workspace manager showup). Is there anyone
had same experinece and how do you solve it? Please help me! BTW, After I installed user 3.3,
I tried to install devleop 3.2(my package comed with user 3.3 and develop 3.2 :-( ), developer
3.2 overwrite some user 3.3's files. Could it be the problem? Many thanks!
--
======================================
~ Yung-chang Chen (608)251-5826
c-OO yung-cha@cae.wisc.edu
- =====================
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 3 Apr 1995 04:15:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3lnsob$2fn@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally the NEXTSTEP there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
*** NEED INFORMATION ***
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.fonts
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!news.maz.net!news.omnilink.net!batman.RoBIN.de!glocke!frank
From: frank@glocke.robin.de
Subject: Re: True Type fonts on the Next?
Message-ID: <1995Mar26.102507.286@glocke.robin.de>
Keywords: fonts
References: <D5HM19.HHE@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 10:25:07 GMT
As far as I remember there is a program called "Font Monger" for the PC
that can convert TrueType to PS-Fonts, but I am not sure about it.
Hope this helps
Frank
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: NextDeveloper demos
Message-ID: <D6F6r6.1EE@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <3lkmau$4di@news.panix.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 18:16:18 GMT
In article <3lkmau$4di@news.panix.com> (Charles de Montebello)
clannes@panix.com writes:
> Idiotically, I deleted some of the demos that I thought I didn't
> like and now I want to get them back. I can't seem to. When I
> reinstall the DeveloperTools.pkg they don't reappear...
Most of the demos are located on the User disk in
/NextDeveloper/Demos ;-)
Michael
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*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-543915
*** michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mollen@corsica.umhc.umn.edu (Mark Ollenburger)
Subject: Info needed on "WriteUp"
Message-ID: <D6GApx.H6F@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 08:41:49 GMT
I need info on a word processing program called WriteUp which is
supposedly available for the Next platform. If anyone knows about the availability of such a product, I would like to hear from them.
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: RE: How to get a demo copy of NS for SPARC station
Date: 31 Mar 1995 19:17:54 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <3lhkh2$it3@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <3lbd65$juv@tst.hk.super.net>
In article <3lbd65$juv@tst.hk.super.net> aslsoft@aslgate (Software Group
Acct) writes:
> Hi NeXT fans,
> I have receive emails that told me that there is no
> demo version of the NEXTSTEP OS for Sun Sparc station. Many
> thanks to all of you who have replied to my previous posting.
>
> Since there is no such demo-os, then does anybody
> know which person (NEXT marketing person maybe?) should I contact
> in order to get a sample disk (even a beta product may do it)?
>
> I think I should add some details. I work for
> Automated System Limited Hong Kong, and we are the main
> SUN reseller/support company in Hong Kong. I am a NeXT user/fan
> from the old black hardware day. I want to use the NEXTSTEP OS on
> my Sun Sparc station at work. I also hope to convince my boss that
> NEXTSTEP is a good os and that we should explore this market in Hong
Kong.
>
>
> regards,
>
> Georges Chan
> email: gchan@asl.com.hk
Hi, there
Our local agent *did* get the *BETA* version of NeXT for SUN SPARC in
Taiwan.
If you need any help, please let me know. Maybe I can ask who can
contact with for you.
Mark
Taiwan NeXT User Group
From: mizuguch@kits.sfu.ca (Mark Hiroshi Mizuguchi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: old Draw.app Demo
Date: 3 Apr 95 02:09:11 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
Message-ID: <mizuguch.796874951@sfu.ca>
Do anyone know of any ftp sites that have the old source for the Draw.app demo.
By old I mean without all the new undo mechanisms.
I am currently trying to come up with a simple multi-layer draw app. I dont
need the undo functionality and am having a hard time understanding the demo
with all the undo code. As well the app is taking up more disk space than I
have allocated on our schools disks.
e-mail responses appreciated.
--
Mark Mizuguchi
mizuguch@sfu.ca
--
Mark Mizuguchi
mizuguch@sfu.ca
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Info needed on "WriteUp"
Date: 3 Apr 1995 12:53:47 GMT
Organization: None
Message-ID: <3lor4r$2or@news.tamu.edu>
References: <D6GApx.H6F@news.cis.umn.edu>
In article <D6GApx.H6F@news.cis.umn.edu>,
Mark Ollenburger <mollen@corsica.umhc.umn.edu> wrote:
>I need info on a word processing program called WriteUp which is
>
>supposedly available for the Next platform. If anyone knows about the availability of such a product, I would like to hear from them.
Contact Anderson Financial Systems at 215-653-0911, or send
email to WriteUp@afs.com
Lusty
--
So fine she was,
so soft, so silky-coated-
Her very mew had quality!
-Jean de la Fontaine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: bmarchan@quest.fdn.org (Benoit Marchant)
Subject: What's your mind about GraphBuilder/Gaph Object Library ?
Message-ID: <1995Apr3.085801.10087@quest.fdn.org>
Keywords: graphing
Sender: news@quest.fdn.org
Organization: Quest International / Unilever - Neuilly, France
Distribution: fr
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 08:58:01 GMT
I'm looking for a graph kit to include in a custom application, does
anyone already use GraphBuilder/Gaph Object Library ? How is it ? What
else to do this job ?
Benoit Marchant
benoit@quest.fdn.org
From: chipsig@kaiwan.kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scantastic and NS 3.3
Date: 3 Apr 1995 09:28:48 -0700
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338)
Message-ID: <3lp7o0$4eg@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
As a follow up to my earlier post, which went totally unanswered, I wonder if
ANYONE, ANYWHERE is using Scantastic with NeXTstep 3.3 on Motorola platforms.
Second Glance, the creator of the app, told me there is NO PROBLEM with the
combination...there sure is on my machine! I don't want to bitch at Second
Glance if indeed the app runs as they said.
thanks,
Chip
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From: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Text to speech software?
Date: 3 Apr 1995 11:25:02 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <950403172353.417AACUZ.malc@daneel>
References: <robertznftyfmr59w5@audrey.dircon.co.uk>
> I've seen rsynth but it doesn't do what I want..
>
So could you elaborate on what you do want?
rsynth is one of the better PD packages.
For a commercial offering, try Trillium Research -- Text-to-speech Kit.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: lee00074@mc.duke.edu (Ju-Sung Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NeXT Icon Web Site Wanted
Date: 3 Apr 1995 13:34:49 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3lothp$la8@news.duke.edu>
I was told that there is some Web-site which contains many of
the NeXT icons converted into .BMP files (bit-maps). Would
someone please e-mail me that site (if it exists)?
E-mail address: lee00074@mc.duke.edu
Thanks (very much) in advance.
Ju-Sung Lee
From: dwright@dehli.voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netware authorization from command line??
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 09:54:03 LOCAL
Organization: D & G Micro
Message-ID: <dwright.15.004BFF09@dehli.voicenet.com>
Can I log into a Netware server if I am telneting in from another workstation?
If I try to go into the Net/NetWare/....directory...it dosen't let me in.
Darren
From: circe@id.wing.net (David Sinclair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mSQL 1.05 Adaptor at ftp.cs.orst.edu
Date: 3 Apr 1995 14:49:20 GMT
Organization: Wilder InterNet Gateway (wing.net)
Message-ID: <3lp1th$5kn@news1.WING.NET>
I am still having problems with this adaptor :-( Thanks to those who
sent me the suggestion that I add the TestBase to the ACL file; I did
tis, but still get the "Unable to load MSQLAdaptor" error. In my console
log, there is the error:
Apr 3 10:36:33 celeste DBModeler[372]: Error loading
/LocalLibrary/Adaptors/MSQLAdaptor.adaptor/MSQLAdaptor
Apr 3 10:36:33 celeste DBModeler[372]: rld(): Undefined symbols:
...so apparently, either the adaptor lacks some needed routines, or I am
for some reason not running with some needed module loaded. Anyone have
any ideas? mSQL is working great, and I'd love to be able to use the
DBKit with it!
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
David A. Sinclair -
ASCII email: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu NeXTmail: circe@id.wing.net
From: steve@stevek.ipac.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: FROZEN WORKSTATION!!! HEEEEEEEELP!!!!
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 95 19:04:58 PDT
Organization: Internet Public Access Corporation
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <NEWTNews.24667.796874773.steve@stevek.ipac.net>
References: <3lfptn$quc@news.eecs.nwu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
try bringing it up in single user mode (check your manual) and fsck the drive
From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Terminal and Stuart
Date: 3 Apr 1995 17:00:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3lp9in$o1g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello --
One quick question -- is there any way to fool Terminal into using a black
background with white text (Similarly to Stuart) ? The reason I ask is that
on my NeXTstation with 8 meg of ram, Stuart has a difficult time with the
scrollback buffer -- i.e. it stutters and sometimes stops completely when
scrolling through something (Such as doing an 'ls' in /bin). And when I turn
off the scrollback buffer, it still stutters a bit, but not nearly as much.
I assume it has a slightly more difficult time with the scrollback buffer,
since Terminal, with it's awful, blinding white screen does not have any
problems with screen scrolling. And, obviously, while adding another 8 meg
of ram or so would greatly help things, I prefer not to since I plan on
upgrading in a few months.
Thanks for any tips!
John
____________________________________________________________
|
John L. Millard | You can live only once, but
4th Year Computer Engineering | if you do it right, once is
Case Western Reserve Univ. | enough.
night@b65215.student.cwru.edu |
jlm13@po.cwru.edu | -- Unknown
______________________________|_____________________________
"Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied
them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with
computers, and nobody thinks of complaining."
-- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in
Doctor Dobb's Journal
____________________________________________________________
From: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer displays lines no longer than one character
Date: 02 Apr 95 21:19:13
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <cooncat.95Apr2211913@wombat>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Hi all,
I'm running Newsgrazer version 72 (the latest crashes much too often) but now it shows text in lines of one character,
m
u
c
h
like that. What is the problem? Where can I find the latest version of NewsGrazer that doesn't crash a lot?
Thanks a lot!
From: Randy_Tidd@next.com (Randy Tidd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: priced out of NextStep
Date: 3 Apr 1995 19:55:43 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lpjrv$nd2@news.next.com>
References: <ZHAO.95Mar27143016@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
In article <ZHAO.95Mar27143016@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z.
Zhao) writes:
> > - Nextstep only offers EOF, and that's for programmers,
> > not for users.
>
> It is also for users. Well, if you want to run apps developed with
> EOF, you have to have NEXTSTEP user-package + EOF. E.g. SpiderWoman.
SpiderWoman no longer depends on EOF, please check out the latest version.
The only dependency SpiderWoman had on EOF was the autorelease pool
support in EOApplication, which can be easily emulated with an Application
subclass (see NeXTanswer #1722).
Randy
From: michael@mvhome.hesta.com (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC client?
Date: 4 Apr 1995 01:44:17 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3lq89h$1kc@corporate.hesta.com>
I know very little about IRC, but is there a @relieable* IRC client app
out there?
Is it hard to get it functional?
Sorry as I am a bit weak in this area....
From: chipsig@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scantastic and NS 3.3
Date: 3 Apr 1995 19:39:31 -0700
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338)
Message-ID: <3lqbh3$n6d@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
References: <3lp7o0$4eg@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
Chip Sieglinger (chipsig@kaiwan.kaiwan.com) wrote:
: As a follow up to my earlier post, which went totally unanswered, I wonder if
: ANYONE, ANYWHERE is using Scantastic with NeXTstep 3.3 on Motorola platforms.
: Second Glance, the creator of the app, told me there is NO PROBLEM with the
: combination...there sure is on my machine! I don't want to bitch at Second
: Glance if indeed the app runs as they said.
I'm happy to say that Lance Gilbert at Second Glance, solved it again.
This time it was termination...you should be right?....nope. No termination
on the scanner and it worked.
: thanks,
: Chip
: --
: >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>~~~~+~~~~<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
: | Chip Sieglinger <chip@chip.bigjet.com> "If we stop the violins, |
: | Long Beach CA Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 we could have whirled peas!"|
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Summary: MakeTeXPK
In-Reply-To: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu's message of Thu, 30 Mar 1995 21:36:36 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Apr3132734@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
References: <MAGNUS.95Mar30153636@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:27:34 GMT
In article <MAGNUS.95Mar30153636@darwin.uchicago.edu> I wrote:
> when I try to print to a 600 dpi printer, MakeTeXPK complains
> that it doesn't know the mode. It is not obvious how I should change
> the script. When I try using "localfont" or "imagen", MetaFont fails
> at a later stage. I there a simple fix, or should I just use 300 dpi?
As I expected, there was an easy fix that required a lot more
knowledge of METAFONT than most LaTeX users possess.
Answer #1:
> Get "metafont-for-beginners" from ftp.shsu.edu, read it and follow a
> described procedure. Mode parameters for your particular printer are
> likely in a file modes.mf to be found on the same server. On your
> NeXT you will find that this is a file next.mf which you will have to
> ammend.
Doing this will likely lead to the following solution
Answer #2 (ultimately from Tom Rokicki):
> Edit /usr/lib/mf/inputs/next.mf by copying the entry for "imagen" and
> giving it the name "laserjetiv". Change the pixels_per_inch to 600; no
> other changes should be necessary.
>
> Then, create a new METAFONT base file. Do the following commands:
>
> inimf "plain; input next; dump"
> su
> cp plain.base /usr/lib/mf/bases/plain.base
> cp plain.base /usr/lib/mf/bases/mf.base
>
> Now, edit /usr/bin/MakeTeXPK. About line 71, add the three lines
>
> elif test $BDPI = 600
> then
> MODE=laserjetiv
>
> Now, edit /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps and change the line
>
> D 400
>
> to
>
> D 600
>
> If the line `D 400' doesn't exist, then just add `D 600' somewhere
>
> That should be all you need to do! Now run TeX/TeXview and try to
> print something. The first few times will be painfully slow because
> all of the fonts will need to be generated, but this will go away
> quickly.
Answer #2a:
> A variant mode definition was also suggested:
>
> % From {\tt swartz@cs.wisc.edu}, 8 April 1993. The straightforward mode
> % with |blacker=0|, |fillin=0|, |o_correction=1| seems to work fine for
> % the Canon EX engine inside Apple's LaserWriter Pro 630. It produces
> % light, clear lines and type. But {\tt ajcarr@ccvax.ucd.ie} sent in the
> % revised values below on 12 December 1993, tested on the major CM fonts
> % at 5, 7, and 10pt and producing slightly better results.
> mode_def alwpro =
> proofing:=0; % no, we're not making proofs
> fontmaking:=1; % yes, we are making a font
> tracingtitles:=0; % no, don't show titles at all
> pixels_per_inch:=600;
> blacker:=.2;
> fillin:=.1;
> o_correction:=.85;
> enddef;
>
Answer #3 (also ultimately from Tom Rokicki):
> Add the lines
>
> elif test $BDPI = 600
> then
> MODE=imagen
> MAG="2*($MAG)"
>
> to MakeTeXPK.
I have only tested #2. Thanks to all that responded!
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
tel: +1.312.702-1093 (office)
tel: +1.312.667-5331 (home)
fax: +1.312.702-9740
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Netware authorization from command line??
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <dwright.15.004BFF09@dehli.voicenet.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 17:17:54 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Apr3.171754.20232@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <dwright.15.004BFF09@dehli.voicenet.com>
dwright@dehli.voicenet.com (Darren Wright) writes:
>
> Can I log into a Netware server if I am telneting in from another
workstation?
Take a look at /usr/netware/bin/nwlogin
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: Lionel Tinguely <ltinguely@ping.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP wanted !!
Date: 3 Apr 1995 05:49:15 GMT
Organization: Ping, A. Fink, Mettmenstetten
Message-ID: <3lo28r$4u3@server.ping.ch>
Hello !!
I need a free vesion of PPP for NeXTSTEP (intel),
I don't know where to find it ???
Thank's for your helt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Irving Wolfe <Irving_Wolfe@WOLFE.net>
Subject: Project Scheduling Software - What's Best?
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 02:16:21 GMT
Message-ID: <D6HnnA.K3v@Happy-Man.com>
Sender: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Organization: WOLFE Internet, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon WA 98070 +1 206 463 9399
I'd appreciate any comments on the available software packages that
can help in scheduling projects (and maybe people). We're getting
a little too big for me to keep it in my head anymore, or maybe my
head is shrinking. ;-) Either way, I need some help!
Thanks!
- Irving
--
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Send your POSTAL address to Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com for free information.
Irving_Wolfe@WOLFE.net 206/463-9399 x101 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd
WOLFE Internet Access, L.L.C. fax extension 108 Vashon, WA 98070-7399
From: psteindl@il.us.swissbank.com (Philippe Steindl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP wanted !!
Date: 4 Apr 1995 06:59:07 GMT
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, Swiss Bank Center, Zurich Airport
Message-ID: <3lqqnr$hlo@op1d56cmp.il.us.swissbank.com>
References: <3lo28r$4u3@server.ping.ch>
Lionel Tinguely <ltinguely@ping.ch> writes
> Hello !!
>
> I need a free vesion of PPP for NeXTSTEP (intel),
>
> I don't know where to find it ???
>
> Thank's for your helt
Well,
I found mine on nice.ethz.ch. It's a mirror of some larger site, whose
name I forgot :-)
See ya,
PS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: raphael@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael)
Subject: Re: Sendmail problem w/3.3
Message-ID: <D6Gutv.KsA@research.canon.oz.au>
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
References: <3lf0qg$jcd@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:53:55 GMT
chipsig@kaiwan.kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) writes:
>I installed NS3.3 the other night, and no more sendmail - everything I try to
>ship out from nextmail bounces. I broke out the documentation on Sendmail,
>and about the first thing they say is "DON'T UNDERTAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE
>EXISTING CONFIG FILES, UNLESS YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY SURE....."
Yes, that's about right. You should give up on NeXT's sendmail & configuration
files right now. Go & fetch the latest sendmail (8.6.12) from
ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/sendmail and start with that. That way you don't
have to develop a torn scalp & twitches from trying to hack NeXT's sendmail.
One of the included config files should suit you, since you need only the
nextstep stuff, local mailer, & smtp mailer. You may never need to know what
the config file really looks like. Should be easy(-ish). The Sendmail book by
Bryan Costales from O'Reilly is a good buy.
--
Andrew Raphael <raphael@research.canon.oz.au>
"Oh! I see, it's your birthday. It's your big day, and I forgot."
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP wanted !!
Date: 5 Apr 1995 07:20:36 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ltgc4$190@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <3lo28r$4u3@server.ping.ch>
Lionel Tinguely <ltinguely@ping.ch> wrote:
>Hello !!
>I need a free vesion of PPP for NeXTSTEP (intel),
>I don't know where to find it ???
>Thank's for your helt
ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/
From: toml@ECE.ORST.EDU (Tom Lieuallen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DMA errors and missing mouse (non related)
Date: 3 Apr 1995 18:19:00 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lpe6k$pfu@engr.orst.edu>
Keywords: DMA mouse
I have two unrelated problems.
On a black non-turbo monochrome machine, I am getting the following
errors:
Mar 28 05:12:17 atash mach: spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110
Mar 28 05:23:17 atash mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000
channel 0x2000110
Mar 28 05:23:23 atash mach: en0: transmitter not ready
This seriously degrades performance and sometimes results in a system
crash. The machine is on a network and has a disk that it is NFS
exporting. The errors seem to be the worst when I am using the
disk from an NFS client. Does anyone know what that DMA channel
is referring to? The machine is now running 3.3. The same error
occured in 3.2 -- but I was hoping 3.3 would make it stop. No such
luck.
Also, what is the command to make the mouse cursor re-appear? We
have an Intel running 3.3 that keeps losing the mouse. Of course, a
reboot solves the problem, but I have faint recollections of some fancy
Postscript or dwrite command that would make it re-appear.
I've just scanned these news groups, and looked at the FAQ on the WWW
site, and haven't seen the answers anywhere.
thanks
Tom Lieuallen
Instructional Support Assistant
Electrical & Computer Engineering
Oregon State University
toml@ece.orst.edu
From: abid@gun.com (Abid Khwaja)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Host Mode
Date: 4 Apr 1995 03:28:58 GMT
Organization: Gotham Users of NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3lqedq$h21@giuliani.gun.com>
Can someone please recommend software that will allow me to become a host to a
remote computer dialing in over a phone line (modem).
I can't use something like "TipTop" which does allow me to dial out but will
not answer an incoming call. Due to security, the remote computer I am
interested in accessing does a call-back and gives a prompt for access but I
have nothing that will let me "listen" to the modem when the call comes in.
(Or do I? Any Unix utilities that let you do this?)
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
From: michael@hesta2 (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mail apps?
Date: 4 Apr 1995 23:09:16 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3lsjis$534@corporate.hesta.com>
WHat applications accept MIME compatible mail from NeXT mail.app? And
to what extent does MIME caompatibility actually provide the things
mail.app has been able to so far?
Can I send tiffs, documents, spreadsheets etc?
Most of my clients will be using some MS or WINDOWS based system...
Any help is appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Accessing DOS partition from SoftPC
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.95Apr4142356@darwin.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Department of Ecology & Evolution, The University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 19:23:55 GMT
Hi,
I know that this has been asked before, but I can't seem to
find the answer. How do I get access to the native DOS partition from
SoftPC? I have 3.3 and am testing SoftPC 4.0. My DOS partition is as
follows
/dev/sd0a 919164 580413 246834 70% /
/dev/rsd0h 81728 47100 34628 58% /ms-dos_6
and has DOS 6.22 plus Windows installed. I know next to nothing about
DOS and Windows -- I just want to have ability to run certain
programs. The info about SoftPC claims that I should be able to set
"D:" to the schizo partition, but SoftPC only allows container files
to be selected, or, when I choose "DOS drive" it complains about the
format.
Thanks,
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
email: Magnus_Nordborg@uchicago.edu
tel: +1.312.702-1093 (office)
tel: +1.312.667-5331 (home)
fax: +1.312.702-9740
Subject: Re: Mutiple PNI dialups
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 08:12:22 PDT
Message-ID: <000A410B.fc@iqinc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Gary_Affonso@iqinc.com (Gary Affonso)
Organization: ImagingQuest
<<Someone posted modifications to PNI so that multiple sevice providers
could be called. Have these been put on orst or anywhere else? I can't
seem to find them.>>
I'm not sure what you mean by modifications. I currently call two different
SLIP accounts with the PNI software (although, haven't tried both at the same
time). I simply configured PNI0 for my first provider and PNI1 for my second. I
created separate password, config, and login scripts for each.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Academic license: What is allowed?
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 18:31:25 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950405182828.2956B-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <D6936F.D2@harka>
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In-Reply-To: <D6936F.D2@harka>
I had trouble about this point, too.
I took a closer look at the license agreement which came with my NS3.3
academic bundle. It showed as if the limiting paragraph 1 (only for
research and teaching) got replaced with a general paragraph 1 which is
no longer limiting the use of the academic bundle (even reselling,
because customers are no longer mentioned).
Can anybody with greater knowledge of law confirm my opinion?
Best regards,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
On Thu, 30 Mar 1995, Felix Rauch wrote:
> Because of the high prices for the NS 3.3 dev. upgrade, I'll have to
> switch to the academic version (I'm still a student, but until now I
> was able to pay the upgrades for a full version). As I plan to release
> a freeware programm, I'd like to know what the academic licence says
> about that subject.
> What am I allowed to do with the academic version?
> I guess I musn't sell commercial software, but how about freeware,
> shareware?
>
> Thanks for a short note on this,
> Felix
> --
> Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland.
>
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: What is a good and not too expensive flatbed scanner for NEXTSTEP + DOS?
Message-ID: <D6J1y2.241@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:22:49 GMT
I am looking for a scanner (flatbed) that can be used under both NEXTSTEP and
DOS. Is there such a beast and not too expensive?
If the scanner can be used under DOS and SoftPC that is OK too.
Thanks,
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Sendmail problem w/3.3
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <D6Gutv.KsA@research.canon.oz.au>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:21:41 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Apr4.122141.25458@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <D6Gutv.KsA@research.canon.oz.au> raphael@research.canon.oz.au
(Andrew Raphael) writes:
> chipsig@kaiwan.kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) writes:
>
> >I installed NS3.3 the other night, and no more sendmail - everything I
try to
> >ship out from nextmail bounces. I broke out the documentation on
Sendmail,
> >and about the first thing they say is "DON'T UNDERTAKE MODIFICATIONS TO
THE
> >EXISTING CONFIG FILES, UNLESS YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY SURE....."
>
> Yes, that's about right. You should give up on NeXT's sendmail &
configuration
> files right now. Go & fetch the latest sendmail (8.6.12) from
> ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/sendmail and start with that. That way you
don't
> have to develop a torn scalp & twitches from trying to hack NeXT's
sendmail.
I don't agree with this advice at all, which comes up every time someone
asks for simple configuration advice for sendmail.
Installing a replacement sendmail is a relatively simple task for an
experienced NeXT hacker, and may make it easier to set up complicated
configurations. It isn't that easy for anyone else.
However, you lose NeXT support (most importantly for CERT advisory
updates), and may have a lot more configuration work to do than you would
have to properly configure NeXT's sendmail in the first place.
In all probability Chip's problem can be fixed either by a couple of small
netinfo property changes, or by reading comments in his sendmail.cf. For
most users, if they weight up the effort involved, replacing sendmail is
too much trouble.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: (Charles de Montebello) clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FROZEN WORKSTATION!!! HEEEEEEEELP!!!!
Date: 5 Apr 1995 01:56:40 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3lstco$o2q@news.panix.com>
References: <3lfptn$quc@news.eecs.nwu.edu>
In article <3lfptn$quc@news.eecs.nwu.edu> wmullen@eecs.nwu.edu (Willie
Mullen) writes:
> i have a slick, black turbo next workstation which is stuck with
the
> spinning disk icon for 'checking system files'? (even when i reboot).
how do
> i get it to boot and give me a command prompt so i can try to fix it?!
i've
> tried alt-command-~.
Try booting into single user mode by typing -s at the boot prompt. Or,
try alt-numlock (but I am running on Intel so I don't know if this will
help)
Charles.
From: (Charles de Montebello) clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netscape for Next Intel?
Date: 4 Apr 1995 15:54:33 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3lrq3p$n2@news.panix.com>
Does anyone know if Netscape will be releasing a version for Next Intel. I
know they have a Unix version, but I have seen nothing about Next Intel. I
have Omniweb version 1.0 and it's good, but I like the way Netscape
handles graphics a little better...
Thanks.
Charles.
From: (Charles de Montebello) clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Connor 420MB Backup
Date: 4 Apr 1995 15:54:43 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3lrq43$n4@news.panix.com>
Does anyone know if there is a way to backup Next files from Next to the
Connor QuickWide 420 MB backup drive? It has software for windows and Dos
but that's it. I kind of wanted to backup some Next stuff too...
It using the floppy chain, for those who don't know. It is on Intel..
Thanks
Charles.
From: (Charles de Montebello) clannes@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsgrazer 7.5
Date: 4 Apr 1995 15:54:48 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3lrq48$n6@news.panix.com>
Is there a way to save the groups and articles that I am subsribed to in a
file so that I can open Newsgrazer directly into them instead of having to
load them each time. I would prefer only to have to catchup on new
articles...
Thanks...
Charles.
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Phone # for Discovery in Florida?
Date: 4 Apr 95 10:11:13 EST
Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <1995Apr4.101113.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Could someone please email me the phone number of Discovery, a reseller of NeXT
Academic in Florida? Thanks a million...
Scott
Scott Davenport / sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu / NeXTMail OK!
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get
Date: 5 Apr 1995 13:10:07 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3lu4rf$ag8@mailer.york.ac.uk>
References: <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
srosie@umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) writes:
> Huh? Are you saying that NeXT is going to raise the academic price
> when 4.0 ships? Or, alternatively, are they going to lower the non-
> academic price when 4.0 ships and give free upgrades to those who
> purchased 3.3?
Are you implying that it's possible to get 3.3 academic ? I've
had 3.3 academic bundle on order for black and white for over a month. The
white turned up within a few days - but NeXT have been telling our
supplier that there is no academic bundle for black at all ! This is
odd as their press release says that there is. Has anyone out there
managed to get 3.3 on black with an academic lisence ?
-pete french.
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From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: PM6.0 on OpenStep ?
Message-ID: <1995Apr4.214003.6379@precipice.fdn.fr>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:40:03 GMT
Just dreaming...
OpenStep will be ported to Windows95...
In order to have OpenStep working on Windows95, NeXT ported the DPS under Windows95
Adobe bought Aldus
I heard that Aldus developpe
d parts of PM5.0 under NS (at least for the framework)
So, does NeXT :-) release of PM (6.0) will be available under Win95/OS and not just Win95 alone...
I use PM5.0 all the day at work under Winshit and I must reboot the machine at least once a day... It is not wysiwyg due to Win GDI...
Adobe, after porting to Win95/OS, please consider also NS...
Hugues.
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 95 10:12:35 -0400
Subject: Re: default shell
Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com
can anyone suggest how to change my default shell?
when I choose "bash" under terminal preferences the
setting is lost as soon as I close the preferences
window and reset to "ksh".
The best way is
passwd -s $USER
'bash' must be in /etc/shells somewhere as an acceptable shell.
If you just want to do this for Terminal.app, then
dwrite Terminal Shell /path/to/bash
should do it
or
dwrite Stuart Shell /path/to/bash
for Stuart
(note that changing the shell for Stuart or Terminal will not effect
rlogin, telnet, or when you log in through 'console')
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? [Black]
Message-ID: <eldD6KvKq.13n@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3lu4rf$ag8@mailer.york.ac.uk> <3lukqe$1a0@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:00:26 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom16.netcom.com
: It just started shipping last week, so bookstores may not have been
: told yet. If not, you can always order director from Object
: Technologies, as long as you send them proof of your current academic
: status. Our contact is:
: Shane Kelsay, shane@objectech.com
: 1-800-452-7608, FAX 1-303-799-1435
: Cost is $299 plus shipping and handling
: Accepts all major credit cards
: Please specify which platform (NeXT/Intel/SPARC/HP)
That's funny. I live in Denver, (near object technologies). I called
them 3 days ago and a lady there told me that I couldn't talk to a
salesperson because they were all very busy. She wanted to know if
someone could call me back later. I asked if they could sell me a copy
of Academic NS 3.3, and she FLAT OUT told me that it wasn't available yet.
I called the NeXT 1-800 number, and ordered it directly from them. It
came today, 2nd day FedEx.
Maybe Object Technologies should make their WHOLE office aware what
is/isn't available.
I might be sounding a bit irritated, but this happened about 8 months ago
when OT was Alembic Systems. They told me that they didn't have 3.2
academic.
Curious, NeXT points to them as a direct Academic source.
oh well
--
eric davis
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Satan anyone?
Date: 5 Apr 95 22:56:09 EST
Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <1995Apr5.225609.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Anyone been able to compile Satan on NeXT 3.3 Intel? Been trying a bunch of
hacks at the code with no luck.
Scott
Scott Davenport / sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu / NeXTMail OK!
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Info needed on "WriteUp"
Date: 4 Apr 1995 08:29:30 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lr01b$ed3@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <D6GApx.H6F@news.cis.umn.edu>
mollen@corsica.umhc.umn.edu (Mark Ollenburger) writes:
> I need info on a word processing program called WriteUp which is
> supposedly available for the Next platform. If anyone knows
> about the availability of such a product, I would like to hear
> from them.
For what it's worth, I have it. It's reasonably nice, and they
should soon be coming out with another update that will make it
even more useful. I'll be upgrading, at least. Probably buy a
second license too.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP wanted !!
Date: 5 Apr 1995 13:15:00 GMT
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <3lu54k$piv@elna.ethz.ch>
References: <3lo28r$4u3@server.ping.ch> <3lqqnr$hlo@op1d56cmp.il.us.swissbank.com>
Philippe Steindl (psteindl@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
: I found mine on nice.ethz.ch. It's a mirror of some larger site, whose
: name I forgot :-)
Please don't use nice.ethz.ch if you're outside from ethz. Use
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next instead (should be faster anyway).
It's a mirror of the NeXT-archive on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de.
- Felix
--
Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland.
internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome)
PGP public key on request
From: trestrail@delphi.com (Jeff Trestrail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextDeveloper demos
Date: 5 Apr 1995 22:21:53 GMT
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Message-ID: <9504051802591.The_Win-D.trestrail@delphi.com>
In article <3lkmau$4di@news.panix.com>, (Charles de Montebello)
clannes@panix.com writes: > To All,
>
> Idiotically, I deleted some of the demos that I thought I didn't like and
> now I want to get them back. I can't seem to. When I reinstall the
> DeveloperTools.pkg they don't reappear...
> Then I de-installed the tools and reinstalled them and that didn't work
> either. Do I need to de-install all parts of NextDeveloper for this to
> work and, if so, will this screw with my other Apps?
>
> All that comes back from the tools .pkg are two demos: Appinspector and
> DDMModeler.
>
Did you delete them by uninstalling the packages in /NeXTLibrary, or just by
deleting the app ? The packages leave a receipt when installed which needs to
be removed.
Jeff Trestrail
trestrail@delphi.com
From: khiebert@infomatch.com (Kevin Hiebert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MPEG2 Audio Player?
Date: 6 Apr 1995 01:31:54 -0700
Organization: Infomatch Communications Inc.
Message-ID: <khiebert.797157084@infomatch.com>
References: <3l50qc$iem@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <3luhkb$pas@mailer.york.ac.uk>
Just in case you were feeling left out by not being able to listen to the
cool MPEGII-audio files in the Underground Music Archive, I thought I'd
share the results of my quest to get these great songs playing in the
background on my NeXTCube.
Just make the following shell script executable and put it in your path
somewhere (like /usr/local/bin). I looks at the filename for the word
"mono" and if it doesn't find it, it assumes that you have a stereo file.
For the script to work, you will need to acquire both the "sox" command
(look inside GISO.app) and the "maplay" command (from ftp.iuma.com in the
mpeg_players directory). The "sndplay" command should already be
installed on your NeXT.
#!/bin/sh
#
# mpegplay [filename.mp2]
#
if [ `echo $1 | grep mono` ]
then
maplay -v -s $1 | sox -V -s -r 44100 -w -c 1 -t raw - -t snd - > $1.snd
else
maplay -v -s $1 | sox -V -s -r 44100 -w -c 2 -t raw - -t snd - > $1.snd
fi
sndplay $1.snd
I ACCEPT NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY "WIERD STUFF" THAT MAY OCCUR IF YOU
USE THIS SCRIPT. I KNOW NEXT-TO-NOTHING ABOUT "maplay" AND "sox" EXCEPT
THAT THE ABOVE SCRIPT WORKS FOR ME.
Be warned that the above script takes a good amount of CPU cycles and
disk space. For example, a mono/16-bit/near-CD-quality 3-minute song is
about 2 MB as a .mp2, takes about 7 minutes to decode, and creates a 14
MB .snd file!!! Don't try this at home if you are running low on RAM or
hard disk space.Anyhow, I hope it helps. Enjoy!
---
Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com> http://www.wimsey.com/~khiebert/
* MIME/NeXTmail welcome * PGP public key available for secure messages *
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From: night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (John L. Millard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3lp9in$o1g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Control: cancel <3lp9in$o1g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: 5 Apr 1995 12:01:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <3lu0qg$oln@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: circuit modelling app??
Message-ID: <D6JCMC.CL@chemelex.com>
Sender: fms@chemelex.com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Organization: Chemelex Division of Raychem Corporation
Distribution: ba,na,usa,world
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 00:13:23 GMT
Hi all, say, there used to be an app (I think in the NeXT
Developer demo's or examples) that took a graphically created
electrical circuit and generated the math function of the
circuit in Mathematica syntax. Does anyone know where it is or
have copy? does it work under vers 3.3??
thanks, Fred
Fred Schenkelberg
NeXTmail enjoyed
fms@chemelex.com
Redwood City, CA
--
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From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Subject: DOOMII Alpha is out
Message-ID: <D6Kpnq.DzA@marble.com>
Sender: news@marble.com
Organization: Marble Associates, Inc.
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:52:37 GMT
Just got the DoomII alpha from www.omnigroup.com.
Has anyone gotten it to work?
The keyboard controls don't seem to work (I read the
docs and try clicking the mouse in the center first - no luck)
SD
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From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get
Date: 5 Apr 1995 18:40:39 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3luo77$mja@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <3lu4rf$ag8@mailer.york.ac.uk>
pete french writes
> odd as their press release says that there is. Has anyone out there
> managed to get 3.3 on black with an academic lisence ?
>
> -pete french.
Yes, but it was 3.3 user bundled with 3.2 user.
--
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Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: allanb@acct1.gsdl.com (Allan Barrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: sound randomizer???
Date: 5 Apr 1995 13:22:04 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: us
Message-ID: <3lu5hs$3hs@redstone.interpath.net>
I have a lot of great .au sound files, and was wondering if anyone knew
of an app that would make the system beep be a random selection from
them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
From: alec@inc.net (Alec Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Popper Compile For SPARC
Date: 4 Apr 1995 04:46:31 GMT
Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. 414-476-4266
Message-ID: <3lqiv7$j76@blinky.inc.net>
Hello SPARC NeXTStep Users,
Could anyone out there in NetLand please compile popper for NSSPARC so I
can set up a test on our SPARC Server? I would really appreciate it.
I'd be glad to upload it to the appropriate ftp sites!
Thanks in advance,
Alec Ellsworth
alec@inc.net
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From: radium@fox.nstn.ca (RADium Technology Centre (Canada))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What is a good and not too expensive flatbed scanner for NEXTSTEP + DOS?
Date: 5 Apr 1995 18:38:20 -0300
Organization: RADium Technology Centre (Canada)
Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca
Message-ID: <3lv2kc$2pu@Owl.nstn.ca>
References: <D6J1y2.241@RnA.NL>
In article <D6J1y2.241@RnA.NL>, Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL says:
>
>I am looking for a scanner (flatbed) that can be used under both NEXTSTEP and
>DOS. Is there such a beast and not too expensive?
>
>If the scanner can be used under DOS and SoftPC that is OK too.
>
Well, we've had some luck with the Epson 800C colour scanner, in conjuncture
with a NeXTStep program called ScanTastic.
From: emarshal@osf1.gmu.edu (ERIC R. MARSHALL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: can't find new HeaderViewer features in 3.3
Date: 6 Apr 1995 01:33:46 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <3lvgdq$els@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just installed 3.3 Developer and I can't find any reference, except
in NeXT's marketing literature, to the new HeaderViewer features: "Enhanced
browsing capabilities support navigation of new Foundation Class Clusters".
Has anyone out there found it(them)? Any help would be appreciated!
From: dayne@spry.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with boot partitions
Date: 6 Apr 1995 13:45:52 GMT
Organization: InterServ News Service
Message-ID: <3m0rag$en5@data.interserv.net>
I installed NS last night on my Micron P90. It went without a hitch, which was nice considering the horror
stories I've heard. But now I have a problem.
My layout is a little strange, but basically it looks like this:
DISK 1 IDE
<---7 MB NS---><----------------------------------------803 MB WinNT/DOS/WFW---------------------------------->
(boot sector) (NT installed on "top" of WFW)
DISK 2 SCSI
<-----------------------------------430 MB NS--------------------------------><-------------100 MB Win95 beta--------------->
(I already know I need more space!) (not here yet - this is currently empty)
My problem is this: At boot, I want to get a menu other than the "type n for nexstep, d for dos" option. I
would prefer to get a numerical option such as:
1) DOS/NT
2) NEXTSTEP
3) Windows 95
If I choose option 1, I will then have the NT option of booting into that OS or into DOS/WFW. Of course,
I'd prefer even more to have a 4 item menu w/ NT and DOS/WFW as separate items, but that may not
be possible.
So how do I do this? Can I? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!
Note: the entire SCSI drive will eventually become NS. I'm keeping a place for Win95 now because I've
heard bad things from friends about it ---- like 3-4 reinstallations a week, for instance. Until it
becomes Microsoft's equivalent of "stable", I'd rather just experiment with it in an entirely separate
space.
-Dayne Miller
dayne@spry.com
SPRY, Inc.
***Usual disclaimer: My opinions areseldom those of my employer. Or my cat, for that matter.***
From: scott@ntplx.net (Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.users
Subject: OmniWeb can't display inline images?
Date: 6 Apr 1995 13:46:24 GMT
Organization: NETPLEX
Sender: scott@jumbo.ntplx.net
Message-ID: <3m0rbg$mq4@jumbo.ntplx.net>
Hi,
I was told by someone at LightHouse that OmniWeb needs some libraries,
supposedly included with the archived distribution, for showing in line
GIF images.
The distribution I got from
ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/...
does not install any library that I can see.
Any ideas how to get this to show the images?
scott douglass
From: jim.anderson@cyberstore.ca (Jim Anderson)
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Subject: comdex on cd-rom
Date: 6 Apr 1995 21:04:53 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3m1l1l$4bb@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
CD-ROM of ALL COMDEX (This is the worlds largest computer trade show-ie all the newest and coolest in software and computer hardware)(Las Vegas, Nov.1994) brochures for $49.95 US (Money Order)
Scanned in at 200 DPI, line art with corresponding database.(Windows,DOS)
Mail money order and where you want your CD-ROM mailed to:
First National Data Bank
Box 24008, Kelowna, V1Y 9P9, BC, Canada
Please allow 2 weeks for delivery.
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb images wont display-help
Date: 6 Apr 1995 22:24:00 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY 12866
Message-ID: <3m1pm0$ltg@saims.skidmore.edu>
Omniweb's images won't display. How can i get them to show up ?
thanks
A. Holland
Saratoga, NY
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fonts wanted
Date: 5 Apr 1995 22:39:03 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lv667$c1d@news.iastate.edu>
Keywords: fonts
I am looking for more fonts (other than the ones on ftp.cs.orst.edu) that
are already configured to work under NS. Anybody?
--
*******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
* Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) *
* --------------------------------------------------------- *
* He who throws mud loses ground. *
***********http://www.public.iastate.edu/~sela******************
From: How@Panix.com (Howard Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: http creator
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 1995 19:48:59 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <How-0604951948590001@how.dialup.access.net>
Hi Y'all:
I was at a NeXT-Expo thing in New York City this week and I saw a demo of
this awesome program that created web-pages using cool objects, links and
well...etc.
The problem is that I lost the card fromn the vendor. Does anyone know
what the possible package is or might be?
Thanks for any and all help!
Howie Schneider
how@panix.com
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MPEG2 Audio Player?
Date: 5 Apr 1995 16:48:11 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3luhkb$pas@mailer.york.ac.uk>
References: <3l50qc$iem@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca writes:
> Does anyone know of a PD/SW/commercial mpeg2 audio player for
> NEXTSTEP? Can NEXTTIME can play these audio files?
I ported maplay one to NeXTStep - its on the iuma ftp site and works fine
with all their files.
-bat.
From: psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul Sanders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.users
Subject: Anyone know anything on Netsurfer?
Date: 6 Apr 1995 08:00:02 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
Message-ID: <3m0722$bv2@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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I recently saw an advertisement for a product called Netsurfer for NeXT.
Claims to be the most advanced, usable etc etc browser product for any
platform.
I checked out their WEB site but there's no demo version, no screen shots,
no nothing - does anyone have any experience of it ?? I can't see anyone
parting with any money on a product noone has seen.
Paul.
--
Paul Sanders, Information Systems | Phone: +44 1473 645716
BT Laboratories, Ipswich IP5 7RE | Fax: +44 1473 642299
psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (NeXTmail welcome)| "Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead"
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: default shell
Date: 6 Apr 1995 17:54:03 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3m19rr$s9n@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <9504051412.AA14582@alleg.EDU>
Timothy J Luoma (luomat@alleg.EDU) wrote:
: can anyone suggest how to change my default shell?
: when I choose "bash" under terminal preferences the
: setting is lost as soon as I close the preferences
: window and reset to "ksh".
: The best way is
: passwd -s $USER
: 'bash' must be in /etc/shells somewhere as an acceptable shell.
BTW, passwd -s does not work.
-------------
localhost > passwd -s
Changing login shell for rdieter.
Old shell: /bin/csh
New shell: /usr/local/bin/bash
Cannot change finger information or shell with NetInfo (yet).
-------------
You need SU privledge to change shell info.
--
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Research Associate Voice: (402)472-9747
Department of Mathematics and Statistics FAX: (402)472-8466
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: toml@ECE.ORST.EDU (Tom Lieuallen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DMA errors and missing mouse (non related)
Date: 5 Apr 1995 15:37:43 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ludg7$3vb@engr.orst.edu>
Keywords: DMA mouse
I believe I have answers for both my questions, and thought I'd
share it, in case anyone was interested:
My DMA errors were due to a faulty network. I found an incredibly
large number of input errors when I used 'netstat -i'. After making
modifications to the network, my input errors are gone along with
the DMA errors.
Joel McClung suggested the following for finding the missing mouse
cursor:
to get the mouse cursor to return, open a terminal, type "pft" and say:
showcursor
^D
thanks
Tom Lieuallen
Instructional Support Assistant
Electrical & Computer Engineering
Oregon State University
From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? [Black]
Date: 5 Apr 1995 17:42:38 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3lukqe$1a0@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <3lu4rf$ag8@mailer.york.ac.uk>
pete french writes
>
> Are you implying that it's possible to get 3.3 academic ? Has
> anyone out there managed to get 3.3 on black with an academic
> lisence ?
It just started shipping last week, so bookstores may not have been
told yet. If not, you can always order director from Object
Technologies, as long as you send them proof of your current academic
status. Our contact is:
Shane Kelsay, shane@objectech.com
1-800-452-7608, FAX 1-303-799-1435
Cost is $299 plus shipping and handling
Accepts all major credit cards
Please specify which platform (NeXT/Intel/SPARC/HP)
And yes, it is $299 plus shipping and handling, and includes EOF.
Good luck,
-- Ernie P.
P.S. I am annoyed the press release didn't mention it being available
for black. That can't possibly be true.
--
Ernest N. Prabhakar, President, NEXTSTEP/OpenStep User Groups Intnl.
NeXT mail:ernest@caltech.edu "...your servants for Jesus' sake."
http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest/Home.htmld - II Cor 4:5b
"I speak for myself, and often for 'nugi', but never for Caltech."
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DoomII on ND?
Date: 6 Apr 1995 13:57:07 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m0rvj$7g4@news.iastate.edu>
I have heard that DoomII won't work on the ND. Is this true?
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* --------------------------------------------------------- *
* He who throws mud loses ground. *
****************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: circuit modelling app??
Message-ID: <D6MLK4.Lo0@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Insignia Solutions Ltd
References: <D6JCMC.CL@chemelex.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 18:19:16 GMT
In article <D6JCMC.CL@chemelex.com> fms@chemelex .com (Fred
Schenkelberg) writes:
> Hi all, say, there used to be an app (I think in the NeXT
> Developer demo's or examples) that took a graphically created
> electrical circuit and generated the math function of the
> circuit in Mathematica syntax. Does anyone know where it is or
> have copy? does it work under vers 3.3??
>
I remember it, but don't a have a copy online (shame really). I think it
disapeared in 3.0 (along with stealth). It MIGHT be in a store somewhere
round here...
While on the subject - there was a REALLY cool app that let you play
with Z-plane filters. It draw the plane, and you could drag three poles
around within the unit circle. It would build the filter on the DSP in
real time, and play white noise through it, as well as drawing the
frequency resoponse.
It was SO cool. I never really got comfortable with Z-plane filter
design until I played with it for ten minutes. It made the whole thing
so simple. I'd really like to track down a new copy.
Ian
From: schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fortran
Date: 05 Apr 95 14:18:35
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <schaefer.95Apr5141835@syrtis>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Keywords: fortran, HP
Is there a fortran for NeXTSTEP-HP yet? If so, where might I find/buy it?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Martha W. Schaefer
Yale University Department of Geology and Geophysics
P.O.Box 208109
New Haven, CT 06520-8109
203-432-3116(office)
203-432-3134(fax)
schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
From: root@nugget.rmNUG.ORG (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any way to pipe sound thru speaker or headphones?
Date: 7 Apr 1995 01:45:24 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Message-ID: <3m25fk$3r7@nova.voicenet.com>
Is there any way to pipe sound right thru the speaker on a cube?
Either thru Digital Ears or thru the microphone?
Darren
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From: swekla@ee.ualberta.ca (Brent Swekla )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOMII Alpha is out
Date: 6 Apr 1995 18:00:32 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3m1a80$uv0@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <D6Kpnq.DzA@marble.com>
Steve Dekorte writes
> The keyboard controls don't seem to work (I read the
> docs and try clicking the mouse in the center first - no luck)
Worked for me... Try hitting escape (and remember that the controls
are different from those for DOS DOOM).
I think it shoud be pointed out that mono slab owners shouldn't get
their hopes up - this release is *way* too slow :^(
--
Brent Swekla
swekla@ee.ualberta.ca
From: wli@linus (Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gcc2.6.3 installing problem
Date: 7 Apr 1995 02:13:47 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock
Message-ID: <3m274r$ejj@news.ualr.edu>
Summary: gcc2.6.3 installing failure
Keywords: GNU, gcc
Please help me! I am experiencing problems while installing
the GNU gcc2.6.3 compiler on my black NeXTstation running
NeXTStep 2.1. The "make" process would abort in the middle
due to some missing file. Thanks.
-wei,
From: stephen@cci.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Executor
Date: 7 Apr 1995 15:17:03 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <3m3l1f$abc@news.tamu.edu>
Does anyone know about Executor's availability? I have sent a couple of
messages to ardi.com and get read receipts but no reply, so I guess it's
not sold anymore?
Would anyone have a copy for sale?
Or maybe a Daydream emulator for sale?
Stephen Johnson
srjohnson@tamu.edu (NEXTMAIL ok)
From: dickw@dino.eng.monash.edu.au (Richard West)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PhotoCD drivers under NS3.3?
Date: 7 Apr 1995 08:10:06 GMT
Organization: Monash University
Message-ID: <3m2s0u$b1a@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>
Summary: Do the PhotoCD drivers still come with NS3.3?
Keywords: driver NEXTSTEP 3.3 PhotoCD
Hi,
I'm posting this for a friend (mark@giaia.gcs.oz.au) who has NS3.3 running
on black hardware. He says that he could view PhotoCD's under 3.2, but that
now he's upgraded to 3.3, he can no longer read them. Can anyone shed some
light on this? Please mail any responses to mark as I'm not sure if he'll
get this newsgroup.
Thanks in advance,
Richard dickw@dino.eng.monash.edu.au
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: NeXT text mail app
Date: 7 Apr 1995 18:51:44 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m41k0$2jh@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <D5wxIs.Bpy@samizdat> <3l60qb$if@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com> <3m34qn$t43@mailer.york.ac.uk>
Roger Peppe (rog@talisker.ohm.york.ac.uk) wrote:
: Bruce Gingery (bruce@TotSysSoft.com) wrote:
: > Give Pine a try.
: [...]
: > There *could* be a snag
: > that I'm not aware of, but I haven't found it yet.
: the snag is that it's one of the nastiest pieces of software
: ever written (equally unintuitive for beginners and experienced
: users alike, and far too complicated for its own good)
I've had good experiences using pine, both from a user and sysadmin
standpoint. The only other text-based mailer I'm aware of is
elm. From a sysadmin standpoint, pine is a breeze to build and
install. (elm is a pain). pine is full featured and easy to use,
IMHO.
--
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Research Associate Voice: (402)472-9747
Department of Mathematics and Statistics FAX: (402)472-8466
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb images wont display-help
Date: 7 Apr 1995 18:52:31 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3m41lf$2jh@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3m1pm0$ltg@saims.skidmore.edu>
Anthony Holland (tholland@pars.skidmore.edu) wrote:
: Omniweb's images won't display. How can i get them to show up ?
You probably haven't installed OmniImage and OmniImageFilter (which
handles all of the image processing stuff).
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu
Research Associate Voice: (402)472-9747
Department of Mathematics and Statistics FAX: (402)472-8466
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: sami@gustav.unda.fi (Sami Kukkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DoomII & interceptorLib
Date: 07 Apr 1995 08:20:40 GMT
Organization: Unda Oy, a Scitex company
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SAMI.95Apr7112040@gustav.unda.fi>
Is there any other way to get a new version of interceptorLib
than to upgrade to 3.3 or to buy NEXTIME?
I don't really care about spending $$$ for upgrades right now, I
just want to run DoomII fast...
--
Everything in this article is factual, and any resemblance to actual persons,
places or organizations living, dead or drunk, is purely intentional.
From: toto@advantage.com (toto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Restricted Shell for NEXTSTEP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 1995 18:56:09 -0700
Organization: Advantage Computers Ltd.
Message-ID: <toto-060495185609@mac_paolo.advantage.com>
Hi all:
Does anyone know if there is a restricted shell available for NEXTSTEP. I
need to be able to provide a limited number of commands such as passwd,
finger, whois etc for non-unix(non security minded) users?
I have tried guest shell but it seems more suitably adapted to dial-in.
Some UNIX environments use rsh as a restricted shell but NEXTSTEP has
another fuction for rsh.
Any help or advice would be appreciated?
Please respond to: paolo@advantage.com rather than the list. Many Thanks.
Regards,
Paolo...
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From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: www crawler for NeXT..where is it ?
Date: 6 Apr 1995 20:59:02 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY 12866
Message-ID: <3m1kmm$l5a@saims.skidmore.edu>
What's the www program (a la' Mosaic) for the NeXT called and which FTP
cite is it at ?
Thanks
A. Holland
Saratoga , NY
tholland@scott.skidmore.edu
From: hbarker@firepower.com (Harold Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer is suddenly crasing frequently
Date: 7 Apr 1995 01:50:47 GMT
Organization: FirePower Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <3m25pn$ftk@enquirer.FirePower.COM>
References: <3lf7t0$ivi@saims.skidmore.edu>
One of the most common causes is that Ng can not deal with long header lines.
Try reading the sex groups, some dumb ass has posted/spamed addvertisements usinng Newsgroup: lines ~820 bytes long.
It is not NeXT's fault, this was introduced in V75 with the other real dumb assumptions made by the person that added the code to track message-id lines.
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu wrote:
> I've been using Newsgrazer for the NeXT for a long time now, but all of a
> sudden it will only run for about 3 minutes...then suddenly terminates.
> Can anyone give me any pointers on how to find out what's suddenly started
> causing this trouble. I've not upgraded any software or hardware for over
> a year or two now.
> thanks
> Anthony Holland
> Skidmore College
> tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
From: rog@talisker.ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: NeXT text mail app
Date: 7 Apr 1995 10:40:23 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m34qn$t43@mailer.york.ac.uk>
References: <D5wxIs.Bpy@samizdat> <3l60qb$if@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
Bruce Gingery (bruce@TotSysSoft.com) wrote:
> Give Pine a try.
[...]
> There *could* be a snag
> that I'm not aware of, but I haven't found it yet.
the snag is that it's one of the nastiest pieces of software
ever written (equally unintuitive for beginners and experienced
users alike, and far too complicated for its own good)
apart from that, it's fine.
rog.
(the computer service here are attempting to make it the
only mailer available... does anybody know of a decent text
mail app that's reasonably clean, and speaks imap ?)
From: thomasm@puni.wiwi.hu-berlin.de (Thomas Matscheroth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X Server
Date: 7 Apr 1995 14:27:23 GMT
Organization: Humboldt-University, Berlin (Economic Computer Science Department, Germany)
Sender: thomasm@abulifa.wiwi.hu-berlin.de (Thomas Matscheroth)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m3i4b$agl@dec2.rz.hu-berlin.de>
Where can I find the source/bin to run X on a single NeXT machine in a SunOS network?
We have a Next Dimension Color Card.
Regards
Tom
---------------"Widerlegt zu werden ist keine Gefahr, wohl aber,
nicht verstanden zu werden." Immanuel Kant
Dipl.-Kfm. Thomas Matscheroth Humboldt University at Berlin
Institute of Information Systems Department of Economics
thomasm@wiwi.hu-berlin.de http://www.wiwi.hu-berlin.de/~thomasm/
From: shrager@jamuna.Stanford.EDU (Jeff Shrager)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NextStep Lisp
Date: 7 Apr 1995 15:04:23 GMT
Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department, CA USA
Message-ID: <3m3k9n$b4f@Radon.Stanford.EDU>
I'd appreciate hearing about experience folks have with lisp on
NextStep. We're trying to decide whether to run NextStep v. Unix, but
require lisp. Is there one at all for NS? Who makes it? Is it
fairly complete or just a CAR/CDR hack?
(Email please.)
Thanks,
-- Jeff
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NextStep Lisp
Date: 7 Apr 1995 15:37:08 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3m3m74$skl@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3m3k9n$b4f@Radon.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3m3k9n$b4f@Radon.Stanford.EDU> shrager@jamuna.Stanford.EDU
(Jeff Shrager) writes:
> I'd appreciate hearing about experience folks have with lisp on
> NextStep. We're trying to decide whether to run NextStep v. Unix, but
> require lisp. Is there one at all for NS? Who makes it? Is it
> fairly complete or just a CAR/CDR hack?
I take it you're interested in Intel-related hardware? In that
case, the only lisp I know of is GCL. My old notes about it are:
gcl-1.1.tgz is available at math.utexas.edu in pub/gcl or ftp.cli.com
(for more info, download the file "gcl.README" from
prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu).
There's also a CLOS (pcl) that works with it, modulo some
screwing around (I have instructions somewhere). It is
fairly complete, and it's free.
The main problem (both here and with the Lisps on the original
NeXT hardware) is the lack of any tie into NeXTStep itself --
if you want to do a user-interface in NeXTStep, you'll be grinding
your teeth a lot.
(On the original hardware, the ACL 3.1.20 that came with it
still runs, thanks to Bill Vrotney, and is the lisp I work with.
Clisp also works -- it's available at
ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de:pub/lisp/clisp).
On other hardware, I don't what the Lisp situation is.
From: jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com ( (Jeff Wishnie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NCR Scsi driver?
Date: 7 Apr 1995 09:32:49 GMT
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m30s1$3vs@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
A colleague at work is looking for a driver for an NCR SCSI card. Does
anyone know of such a thing? NeXTanswers makes no mention of it.
Thanks,
Jeff
jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com
From: scott@ntplx.net (Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOOMII Alpha is out
Date: 8 Apr 1995 02:21:43 GMT
Organization: NETPLEX
Sender: scott@jumbo.ntplx.net
Message-ID: <3m4rvn$j58@jumbo.ntplx.net>
References: <D6Kpnq.DzA@marble.com> <3m1a80$uv0@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Whoa,
This new doom is really SLOW on my machine (486DX2-66...). I prefer the
tiny VGA console window of Doom 1.2 which ran like lightning--sans
sound of course.
Is there someway to make this alpha version run any faster?
scott douglass
scott@ntplx.net
From: ccgreg@showme.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GIF problems with ImageViewer & OmniImage
Date: 7 Apr 1995 20:55:24 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Message-ID: <3m48rs$qkc@news.missouri.edu>
Has anyone noticed that on some GIF files displayed by either ImageViewer
or OmniImage, a solid color stripe a pixel or two wide displays on the
right edge, inside the image? This is particularly noticeable on icons.
This is under NS 3.2 & 3.3 Moto, ImageViewer 0.9i, OmniImage 3.2.
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Project Scheduling Software - What's Best
Date: 5 Apr 1995 22:29:05 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3lvjlh$dkh@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <D6HnnA.K3v@Happy-Man.com>
You asked about Scheduling software for NeXT in comp.sys.next.software.
Here is my suggestion.
Take a Look at Pencil Me In from Sarrus software. E-Mail Info@sarrus.com
We have twelve people in our office and have to schedule alot of things
around each other. Pencil Me In allows us to have individual and group
calanders. You have full control over access to calanders and can even
mail events back and forth.
If I may ask of you, Would you have any suggestions for a SpreadSheet and
a Simple user friendly DataBase app.
Hope I have been of good help.
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail defino@v22.nadepcp.navy.mil
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WWW frontends
Date: 5 Apr 1995 22:35:14 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3lvk12$doo@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <3l1o0m$r22@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
I would also be intrested in information pretaining to a WWW front end for
Next.
Please E-Mail for I am not here as often as I would like to be.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail defino@v22.nadepcp.navy.mil
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
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From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Date: 7 Apr 1995 15:48:20 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
On a number of occasions, I have had problems previewing and
printing postscript that has been generated on a PC. My NeXT
doesn't seem to know how to deal with it. Basically, when I
preview it, I can only access the first page. When I send it
through LPR on my PC, nothing comes out of my NeXTPrinter.
(When I send text or DVI files, it works just fine.)
Anybody have any solutions to this problem? Anybody have
a PC postscript driver that is compatable with a NeXT running
3.3?
Thanks much - Jon
--
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Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb images wont display-help
Message-ID: <D6oMv5.1zt@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3m1pm0$ltg@saims.skidmore.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 20:42:40 GMT
In article <3m1pm0$ltg@saims.skidmore.edu> tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
(Anthony Holland) writes:
> Omniweb's images won't display. How can i get them to show up ?
>
> thanks
>
> A. Holland
> Saratoga, NY
>
> tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
FTP OmniImageFilter.service and place it in your /LocalLibrary/Services
directory. Can be ftp'd from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Nice Greetings from Munich
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/\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
\/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18
NeXTSTEP! NeXTmail und MIME erwuenscht! | Work: +49 89 29 02 54 18
From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need NS 2.1 WWW browser.
Date: 8 Apr 1995 03:18:34 -0400
Organization: Communications Vir, Site Under Construction.
Message-ID: <3m5dca$ljj@Vir.com>
Hello,
I have a NeXTstation running NS 2.1 (yeah there's a few, err, one of
us still arround). I was wondering if there is a grahical web browser (source
or binary) that will run on the above configuration.
Or maybe I could get X and Mosaic running for the above configuration.
I checked the ftp sites and I'm having trouble making sure which X software is
for NS2.1. (I'd hate to spend a whole night downloading 11Mb just to find out
it won't run on NS2.1.)
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Stef
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Software advice
Date: 6 Apr 1995 22:43:40 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3m28ss$466@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
I am looking for an easy to use DataBase and SpreedSheet Application for
NeXT Intel. Does any one have any good suggestions.
Any comments or suggests would be appreciated
Thanks
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail defino@v22.nadepcp.navy.mil
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X in a window
Date: 6 Apr 1995 23:00:06 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3m29rm$4hb@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <1995Mar29.011237.12423@il.us.swissbank.com>
We also use Co-Xist where I work. If you would like information try
info@pencom.com
Pencom write the Co-Xist software. The Software comes complete with Motif
Window Manager and a bunch of Frebbies they have collected. Price I think
was about $450 (Developer) Pretty Cheap considering what you get.
As far as modes, Take Over is great I did comparisons running an
application from a Sparc Server in both Co-Xist and an X-Terminal and
both ran just the Same. . The Integrated can be a little buggy depending
on your display driver. My mouse always seem to act funny. and the
Performance was cut by about 1/3. It all depends on what youre drawing on
the screen. Hope I have been of help
Drivin' Backwards on the ISH <----One Way---->
Mail to:
NeXT Mail defino@v22.nadepcp.navy.mil
NonNext Mail definomm@putter.a1.boeing.com
NeXTroot@aol.com
Mo86@aol.com
"Semper Fi"
I may not agree with what you have to say...
but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: features.h still missing in NS 3.3 HP,MOTO,INTEL,SPARC?
Message-ID: <1995Apr6.170704.16330@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:07:04 GMT
Could some body run this find script and check the consistency of the
machine dependant include file features.h and mail the resulting file
to me.
find /NextDeveloper/Headers -name features.h -print
Thanks
Fabien
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From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: NextStep Lisp
Message-ID: <D6oqFn.860@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
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Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 21:59:46 GMT
In article <3m3k9n$b4f@radon.stanford.edu>,
Jeff Shrager <shrager@jamuna.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>I'd appreciate hearing about experience folks have with lisp on
>NextStep. We're trying to decide whether to run NextStep v. Unix, but
>require lisp. Is there one at all for NS? Who makes it? Is it
>fairly complete or just a CAR/CDR hack?
If you are willing to use Scheme there are a few alternatives available
that run under NEXTSTEP, including MIT CScheme, Yale t-Scheme and Marc
Feeley's Gambit (which I feel is the best of the three). I think that
there are also more Common-Lispy things around but I haven't touched
them myself.
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From: wdwyer@world.nad.northrop.com (William P. Dwyer)
Subject: Black slab as phone answering machine
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:39:57 GMT
Does anyone know of any software, preferably freeware, which
can make a NeXT slab with a modem on the serial port, act as a
telephone answering machine? I know this would make for a pretty
costly answering machine, but my son just broke ours, and I thought
I might be able to make use of the resources I have on hand to fix
the problem.
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From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
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Subject: Can Terminal's background made black?
Date: 8 Apr 1995 01:27:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
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Is it possible to make Terminal's background black, and text white
or other colors if one prefers?
Thanks.
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Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-824-3105 Fax: 714-824-8585
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can Terminal's background made black?
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 17:54:07 GMT
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> Is it possible to make Terminal's background black, and text white
> or other colors if one prefers?
>
Yes, in NS 3.3 these and other aspects are all settable in Prefeences
(Command-8)
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GIF problems with ImageViewer & OmniImage
Date: 8 Apr 1995 18:21:37 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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rmaher@unlinfo.unl.edu (Rob Maher) writes:
>Greg Johnson (ccgreg@showme.missouri.edu) wrote:
>: Has anyone noticed that on some GIF files displayed by either ImageViewer
>: or OmniImage, a solid color stripe a pixel or two wide displays on the
>: right edge, inside the image? This is particularly noticeable on icons.
>...
...
>This displays fine using mosaic, netscape, etc. on various platforms,
>but gets munged using OmniWeb on both my black and my white hardware.
>Any clues?
We ran into this too; Wil Shipley sent us the latest version of
OmniImageFilter and that cleared it up.
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From: v22osprey@aol.com (V22Osprey)
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Subject: NeXT Postal Barcode Font
Date: 7 Apr 1995 17:12:25 -0400
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Where can I get a NeXT compatible postal barcode font? Or, mail label
printer software which includes post net barcodes? S Book prints mail
labels (after some set up time), and it prints barcodes, but it doesn't
put barcodes on the labels.
Thanks,
Mike
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From: fms@chemelex .com (Fred Schenkelberg)
Subject: Re: circuit modelling app??
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thanks to all the responded. One kind soul had a copy from
NeXTStep V1.0 and NeXTmailed me a copy. got it, it worked and
we're happy.... it's a simple app but really useful.
fred
Fred Schenkelberg
NeXTmail enjoyed
fms@chemelex.com
Redwood City, CA
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From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
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Subject: Pattern recognition?
Date: 8 Apr 1995 14:06:56 GMT
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Anyone out there working on pattern recognition software?
Steve
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 95 13:43:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Wanted: NeXT text mail app
Pine is not the answer.
Unfortunately it often seems like the closest thing to an answer.
The answer has not yet been made available.
There are such things around as 'send_attach' and a few other
binaries which will allow one to SEND NeXTMail via a Terminal shell,
but there still is nothing readily available for READing NeXTMail
from the Terminal shell.
My hope is that NeXT will come up with something soon to fill this
gap.... but I have a feeling they won't. Why should it be NeXT?
Because they have the most knowledge of how their Mail.app works, so
who else makes more sense than them?
This conversation seems to come up very often, and here is what I
have seen as far as what people are looking for:
- ability to send and read NeXTMail (as well as MIMEMail)
- use of the same Mailboxes (ie Active.mbox)
- use of read receipts
- ability to compact mailboxes
- allows for transfer of messages from one mailbox to another
- allows for reading messages stored in Mail.app mailboxes
- the use of the Outgoing.mbox
- the use of Mail.app's mail aliases
There are a lot of features in the new Mail3.3 that users would
probably want as well (load names from NetInfo, for example).
If NeXT won't do this, can others? Is the Mail.app copyrighted, so
that one would be legally prohibited from making a Terminal version?
If not, would it be conceivable that someone outside of NeXT could
actually pull this off?
questions, questions......
TjL
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If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
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From: rmaher@unlinfo.unl.edu (Rob Maher)
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Subject: Re: GIF problems with ImageViewer & OmniImage
Date: 8 Apr 1995 13:32:44 GMT
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Greg Johnson (ccgreg@showme.missouri.edu) wrote:
: Has anyone noticed that on some GIF files displayed by either ImageViewer
: or OmniImage, a solid color stripe a pixel or two wide displays on the
: right edge, inside the image? This is particularly noticeable on icons.
...
I'm having trouble displaying transparent GIF images of line art (mostly
circuit diagrams). Check out, for example,
http://www.engr.unl.edu/ee/faculty/robert_maher/260/260.hw5.spice.gif
This displays fine using mosaic, netscape, etc. on various platforms,
but gets munged using OmniWeb on both my black and my white hardware.
Any clues?
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From: How@Panix.com (Howard Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: pppd help!!!
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1995 23:38:03 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
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My name is Howie Schneider and I am an IS Manager for Ziff-Davis
Publishing. We are trying to set up a PPP nation-wide network with ATT
x.25 and I have been given the honor of getting the NeXT cpus up and
running with the project (it's the way we are connecting dial-in users to
Lotus Notes).
I got a copy of PPPD 2.2 and have tried REAL HARD to follow the manual. I
made all the necessary changes to the system as prescribed so that when I
reboot the system says that it has been installed properly. I like the
idea of using a terminal emulator to dial in to my host and then kill the
program (tip), to free up the modem for PPP. The question is, what do I do
once I kill Tip? The modem remains connected, I simply do not know what
to do next. What do I double-click on to get the connection (PPP) going.
There seems to be no App to double-click on.
What do I do to initiate the ppp session or get the darn app to go. Any
and all help is much appreciated!
Howie Schneider
how@panix.com
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Black slab as phone answering machine
Date: 08 Apr 1995 19:21:10 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
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In-reply-to: wdwyer@world.nad.northrop.com's message of Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:39:57 GMT
To: wdwyer@world.nad.northrop.com (William P. Dwyer)
<wdwyer@world.nad.northrop.com> writes:
>Does anyone know of any software, preferably freeware, which
>can make a NeXT slab with a modem on the serial port, act as a
>telephone answering machine? I know this would make for a pretty
>costly answering machine, but my son just broke ours, and I thought
>I might be able to make use of the resources I have on hand to fix
>the problem.
>--
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Dwyer | "I have a secret to tell, from my electrical
> Northrop Grumman Corp. | well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving
> Pico Rivera, CA | out the whistles and bells." TMBG
Well I'm doing just that right now but it really depends on the modem
you've got. I'm running vgetty part of the mgetty+sendfax package and
it runs well. I ran it for about 3 months without problems on my Sun
and I'm just ironing out the remaining problems on the NeXT.
It will probably be more effective to just go out and buy another
machine.
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From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can Terminal's background made black?
Date: 9 Apr 1995 04:05:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
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References: <950408185407.213AACUT.malc@daneel>
In article <950408185407.213AACUT.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford
<m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
> > Is it possible to make Terminal's background black, and text white
> Yes, in NS 3.3 these and other aspects are all settable in Prefeences
> (Command-8)
>
What about NS 3.2?
--
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Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-824-3105 Fax: 714-824-8585
From: wjs@foom.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Question
Date: 7 Apr 1995 12:17:24 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
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References: <1995Mar24.161344.27657@leo.vsla.edu> <3kv40r$bsq@agate.berkeley.edu>
Tin-Yau Fung writes:
[How to prevent people from typing in their own URLs]
> Just take the keyboard away.
Creative idea, but the persistent can copy and paste the URL they
want, letter by letter, using the mouse.
-Wil
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From: gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu (Gary Patton Wolfe)
Subject: Info on ReWritable CDROM drives! URGENT PLEASE READ & RESPOND!
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I do not know too much about the rewritable cdrom drives so bear with me here please. I was wanting to know
if, from people who know, it there is extra software (drivers or such) that are needed for a scsi cd-r drive?
Is NS smart enough to see the drive as just a really big *slow* readable writable mass storage device as say
sd2 or something and would build disk work on it? What kind of fstab would be required to get it to work or
does NS need a new one for something like this? It would be connected to a Colorstation btw.
Also how many times can one of those disks be written to? Can they be used as primary storage and
stuff? I understand that it wouldn't be the fastest thing around, but I am not terrible concerned
with that...I just want something that can hold a lot...is cheap to get new media (these disks are
only $15 each in packs of 10 and those are for the 1.3GB...I believe, don't have the mag with me.)
Anyway I am in a real hurry to know about this info so if it is possible could those that know please
send me e-mail? Thanks a lot.
Gary Wolfe
gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu
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From: gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu (Gary Patton Wolfe)
Subject: URGENT INFO REQUESTED! PLEASE!
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I am wondering if additional software (as in drivers) is needed to hook a rewritable cdrom drive to
a Colorstation (black hardware). Can NS cope with it on its own and still do the writing thing?
If additional software is needed what would it be called and where could it be obtained and how
much would it cost? I doubt highly that the place I would get the drive (Mac Mall) would have the
software.
Also how many times can one of the disks be written over/to?
Any and all info would be greatly appreciated. Could you direct all info to my e-mail address
as I am in a hurry and do not often get a chance to read newsgroups. Thanks,
Gary Wolfe
gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu
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From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Can Terminal's background made black?
Organization: P & L Systems
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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 09:02:07 +0000
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In article <3m7me4$d10@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
writes:
> In article <950408185407.213AACUT.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford
> <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
> > > Is it possible to make Terminal's background black, and text white
> > Yes, in NS 3.3 these and other aspects are all settable in Prefeences
> > (Command-8)
> >
> What about NS 3.2?
Use Stuart or Cables.
Paul
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From: a-prince@ix.netcom.com (Frank Bellino)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Date: 9 Apr 1995 11:00:55 GMT
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In <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
writes:
>
>On a number of occasions, I have had problems previewing and
>printing postscript that has been generated on a PC. My NeXT
>doesn't seem to know how to deal with it. Basically, when I
>preview it, I can only access the first page. When I send it
>through LPR on my PC, nothing comes out of my NeXTPrinter.
>(When I send text or DVI files, it works just fine.)
Jon:
We use our black-cube & printer regularly to proof PC/Windows generated
PostScript files, the trick is to open the file first (on the cube) with
the editor and remove the first (not visable) character (^D) in the file
(before the '%') and then go to the bottom of the file and replace the
invisable characters after 'EOF' on the last line to the end with a
return. Both of these seem to give our Mac driven RIP and the NeXT
PostScript printer fits. (Strangely, when we send the file directly from
the PC to the RIP it just 'swollows hard' and keeps going!) I know the
^D is an end of file character, but I don't have any idea what the stuff
at the end of the file is -- I just know it works for us.
Good Luck,
Frank
PS: I assumed you were working with black hardware, else I have no clue.
From: jacob@jnext (Jacob Nielsen)
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Date: 06 Apr 1995 22:32:52 GMT
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From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: http creator
In-Reply-To: How@Panix.com's message of Thu, 06 Apr 1995 19:48:59 -0400
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Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 16:16:14 GMT
>>>>> "Howard" == Howard Schneider <How@Panix.com> writes:
Howard> Hi Y'all: I was at a NeXT-Expo thing in New York City this
Howard> week and I saw a demo of this awesome program that created
Howard> web-pages using cool objects, links and well...etc. The
Howard> problem is that I lost the card fromn the vendor. Does
Howard> anyone know what the possible package is or might be?
Howard> Thanks for any and all help!
Howard> Howie Schneider how@panix.com
You should look at http://www.pages.com/
Francois
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb can't display inline images?
Message-ID: <D6n1rF.14w@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
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Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 00:09:14 GMT
In article <3m0rbg$mq4@jumbo.ntplx.net> scott@ntplx.net (Scott) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I was told by someone at LightHouse that OmniWeb needs some libraries,
> supposedly included with the archived distribution, for showing in line
> GIF images.
>
> The distribution I got from
> ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info/...
> does not install any library that I can see.
>
> Any ideas how to get this to show the images?
>
> scott douglass
You need OmniImageFilter and put in your LocalLibrary/Services
directory. Can pe ftp'd by ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Nice Greetings from Munich
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From: disc@vector.casti.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.admin
Subject: xinetd or httpd throttle?
Date: 7 Apr 1995 19:19:36 GMT
Organization: Casti Consulting
Message-ID: <3m4388$apu@news3.digex.net>
Hi folks,
I need a way to throttle my NCSA httpd (running out of inetd)... right
now, it just forks the hell out of my machine until the system crashes.
So far as I can tell, there are no compile-time or run-time directives to
limit the number of httpd processes which fork.
So, someone told me about xinetd, but so far as I can tell, it won't
compile under NeXTStep. Does anyone have any ideas about this?
Thanks,
David.
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From: jacob@jnext (Jacob Nielsen)
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Date: 09 Apr 1995 17:17:38 GMT
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From: jacob@jnext (Jacob Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DataPhile crashing; how to restore my data?
Date: 09 Apr 1995 17:23:57 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JACOB.95Apr9192357@jnext>
I have a large (~1000 records) database in DataPhile and now DataPhile
dies when I try to access a particular record (no. 32)
Rather than living with the problem, I've decided to recreate the
database and now the problem is that I cannot get DataPhile to export
the database to a text file. (it crashes again when it reaches the
infamous record)
The question is: Does anyone know the format of the '.dp' file, so I
can do the extraction myself?
Regards,
Jacob
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 19:30:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Can Terminal's background made black?
Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com
Is it possible to make Terminal's background black,
and text white or other colors if one prefers?
No, but this can be done with Stuart, the superior Terminal.app. If
you use Terminal a lot, change to Stuart. It can be ftp'd from the
following sites:
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Stuart.2.
4.N.b.tar.gz (size: 210971)
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Stuart.RE
ADME (size: 1031)
ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources/next-interface/Stuart2.4.tar.Z
ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources/next-interface/Stuart2.4README
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Apr 1995 01:47:52 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Message-ID: <3ma2o8$qat@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net> <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Steven S. Rosenblum (srosie@umich.edu) wrote:
: In article <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>,
: Pohl Longsine <plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com> wrote:
: >Ishir Bhan (ibhan@fas.harvard.edu) wrote:
: [chomp]
: >There is no academic version of NeXTstep. The software is the same.
: >The license is different: i.e. you pay less up front, but if you intend
: >to upgrade to 4.0, 4.1, ... you will end up spending more money than
: >if you just buy a commercial license. (You've been warned, now.
: >it's part of accepting the terms of the academic license.)
: >
: Huh? Are you saying that NeXT is going to raise the academic price
: when 4.0 ships? Or, alternatively, are they going to lower the non-
: academic price when 4.0 ships and give free upgrades to those who
: purchased 3.3?
Perhaps you haven't been following these newsgroups, but there are a lot
of people who were shocked at how much they had to pay to upgrade their
academic licenses of 3.2 to academic licenses of 3.3. Assuming the
upgrade to 4.0 is similar in price for academic licenses, then it might
be more cost-effective in the long-run to purchase a commercial license
in the first place. (amortized over several versions)
They wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would merely
have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic purchaser
gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade. Whiners.
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there free/shareware that converts NeXTtiff to gif?
Date: 09 Apr 95 19:20:45
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <cooncat.95Apr9192045@wombat>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Subject says it all--I want to be able to convert NeXT-created tiffs to .gif files suitable for posting on the WorldWideWeb. I've searched for such a program now and then and haven't found anything.
We need this software to run on black NeXTs running 3.0 and 3.2. Thanks in advance! Please email address above
From: jharding@thor.tjhsst.edu (John Harding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need NS 2.1 WWW browser.
Date: 9 Apr 1995 17:35:05 -0400
Organization: The Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3m9ju9$l6m@thor.tjhsst.edu>
References: <3m5dca$ljj@Vir.com>
In article <3m5dca$ljj@Vir.com>, Stefanos Kiakis <stefanos@Vir.com> wrote:
>Hello,
> I have a NeXTstation running NS 2.1 (yeah there's a few, err, one of
>us still arround). I was wondering if there is a grahical web browser (source
>or binary) that will run on the above configuration.
Join the club. My school's NeXTstation was donated, and they're not willing
to spend the couple hundred to upgrade...
> Or maybe I could get X and Mosaic running for the above configuration.
>I checked the ftp sites and I'm having trouble making sure which X software is
>for NS2.1. (I'd hate to spend a whole night downloading 11Mb just to find out
>it won't run on NS2.1.)
I've managed to get X running on my color NeXTstation, although it's REALLY
buggy. The problem is that the replacement xnext binary for color stations
has some problem in it that all vertical lines are drawn twice as far down
as they should be, and wrap around the screen. Other than that, it works ok
if a bit slow, since it's an older, slower machine. However, Mosaic refusess
to work, because the Xwindows is apparently missing some sort of Motif support
for xshapes, and I haven't been able to find the source code for x and xshapes
to recompile. If you find anything useful, though, drop me a line.
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeXTSTEP academic?)
Date: 10 Apr 1995 02:29:53 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3ma571$ak4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net> <3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ma2o8$qat@duck.inetnebr.com>
Plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) wrote...
>[NeXT] wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would merely
>have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic purchaser
>gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
>Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade. Whiners.
Actually, as an academic user myself, I complain not so much about the
academic discount (which I admit is a very sizeable price reduction),
but at the initial price of NS to begin with. NS is great and all,
but I think most people would be hard pressed to justify spending that
kind of money to buy it. If NeXT hopes to compete, indeed to survive,
then there is one thing they need to do before they sink all their
resources into new widgets and whistles... Get the price down to a
level that mere mortals can afford. If that means offering a version
minus some of the extras (Shakespeare, Websters, etc), then so be it.
But it seems to me that NeXT is well on their way to pricing
themselves out of the market.
Anxiously awaiting GnuStep,
Joe
--
| NeXTMail OK! | + Who's going to wait 54 years to deliver a letter? |
| ________ | + The post office. |
| | |__) | ======================================================== |
| (_|OE| \EISS | - Al Calavicci and Sam Beckett |
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Black slab as phone answering machine
Date: 10 Apr 1995 15:11:38 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mbhra$fjt@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <WDWYER.95Apr3113957@world.nad.northrop.com>
In article <WDWYER.95Apr3113957@world.nad.northrop.com>
wdwyer@world.nad.northrop.com (William P. Dwyer) writes:
>
> Does anyone know of any software, preferably freeware, which
> can make a NeXT slab with a modem on the serial port, act as a
> telephone answering machine? I know this would make for a pretty
> costly answering machine, but my son just broke ours, and I thought
> I might be able to make use of the resources I have on hand to fix
> the problem.
I am using am2.00, an almost free (sleepware! ;-) answering machine for NeXT
with ZyXEL modems. It is not very polished at the moment, but i have it now
running for a couple of months and it works fine. Highly recommended. am1.16
should be on the archives. thanks to Jolly and Axel for making it available.
--
Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________
FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
heller@nirvana.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7
Phone: +49-89-2394-4565, -4562----------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S |
Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: pppd help!!!
In-Reply-To: How@Panix.com's message of Sat, 08 Apr 1995 23:38:03 -0400
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Apr9122050@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <How-0804952338030001@how.dialup.access.net>
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 16:20:50 GMT
>>>>> "Howard" == Howard Schneider <How@Panix.com> writes:
Howard> My name is Howie Schneider and I am an IS Manager for
Howard> Ziff-Davis Publishing. We are trying to set up a PPP
Howard> nation-wide network with ATT x.25 and I have been given
Howard> the honor of getting the NeXT cpus up and running with the
Howard> project (it's the way we are connecting dial-in users to
Howard> Lotus Notes).
Howard> I got a copy of PPPD 2.2 and have tried REAL HARD to
Howard> follow the manual. I made all the necessary changes to
Howard> the system as prescribed so that when I reboot the system
Howard> says that it has been installed properly. I like the idea
Howard> of using a terminal emulator to dial in to my host and
Howard> then kill the program (tip), to free up the modem for PPP.
Howard> The question is, what do I do once I kill Tip? The modem
Howard> remains connected, I simply do not know what to do next.
Howard> What do I double-click on to get the connection (PPP)
Howard> going. There seems to be no App to double-click on.
Howard> What do I do to initiate the ppp session or get the darn
Howard> app to go. Any and all help is much appreciated!
Howard> Howie Schneider how@panix.com
As I understand your situation you are using tip to dial in the server and
then start the pppd program on the server. You then kill the tip program.
Now, what you need to actually bring the ppp link is to start pppd on
your local machine. The connection should them begin in a few seconds.
This is a way to do it but there is a better way (you should only use tip
to test the link once). You should write a script like the following:
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd 132.204.23.66:132.204.23.67 defaultroute connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABORT "ERROR" "" "AT" "OK" ATL1M0DT3432411 TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT "" "mnet>" "rlogin XXXXXX" ogin: ppp0 assword: XXXXXX PPP' /dev/cufa 38400 lock
For it to work you need to:
1. Make a ppp0 user on the server that starts pppd as soon as he logs in.
2. Adapt the login dialog above so it works for login into your server.
3. Adapt the options to pppd for your needs in the above (in particular the
IP addresses).
This way you don't need the tip program and everything will be done
automatically.
Hope this helps,
Francois Magnan
--
______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: jsum@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Joey Sum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.questions
Subject: NcFTP v2.0.3 'Floating exception' error
Date: 9 Apr 1995 15:01:24 -0600
Organization: University of Denver, Math/CS Dept.
Message-ID: <3m9hv4$5b1@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
Hi,
In trying to compile NcFTP v2.0.3 using -lposix and -posix as a CFLAG
with the Config.h that the GNU configure script made, the resulting
executable is made without any compiler error messages. But, when I try
to execute this exec, I get a "Floating exception" error. What does
this error message mean?
Machine info NS v3.2 black m68k
Thanks,
Joey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Unix mail hosts file
Message-ID: <D6sEEJ.FEJ@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 21:30:18 GMT
I can receive mail via SLIP using TIA, but have yet to successfully
send mail. My POP3(PopOver) points to mail.eskimo.com for a mail
host. This is my /etc/hosts entry:
192.0.2.1 myhost salvo
I tried adding alias "mail.eskimo.com" & "mailhost" to this line, yet
still could only receive mail. I even tried adding the following line
without success:
204.122.16.4 mail.eskimo.com mailhost
This is what /usr/spool/mqueue/syslog contains for an attempted mail
send:
Apr 9 12:51:51 bartholomew sendmail[214]: AA00214: message-id=<9504092051.AA00214@bartholomew.eskimo.com>
Apr 9 12:51:51 bartholomew sendmail[214]: AA00214: from=me, size=133, class=0, received from local
Apr 9 12:51:52 bartholomew sendmail[218]: AA00214: to=salvo@eskimo.com, delay=00:00:02, stat=Host unknown
Apr 9 12:51:52 bartholomew sendmail[218]: AA00218: message-id=<9504092051.AA00218@bartholomew.eskimo.com>
Apr 9 12:51:52 bartholomew sendmail[218]: AA00218: from=Mailer-Agent, size=0, class=0, received from local
Apr 9 12:51:54 bartholomew sendmail[220]: AA00218: to=me, delay=00:00:02, stat=Host unknown
It's clear, from the third entry, that salvo@eskimo.com is unresolved.
It's not clear why, though. I declare the name server in
/etc/resolv.conf:
domain eskimo.com
nameserver 204.122.16.4
Can someone point me in the right direction?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Medical software
Date: 9 Apr 1995 21:42:21 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3m9kbt$h50@news.blkbox.com>
Will anyone working on any type of medical software, whether it's patient
database, imaging, or whatever...please drop us a note. We may have an
interesting opportunity.
Thanks...
Steve
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!fdn.fr!uunet!nacm.com!usenet
From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Date: 9 Apr 1995 23:22:52 GMT
Organization: Nicholas|Applegate Capital Management, San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <3m9q8c$aud@nacm.com>
References: <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes:
> On a number of occasions, I have had problems previewing and
> printing postscript that has been generated on a PC...
>
> Anybody have any solutions to this problem? Anybody have
> a PC postscript driver that is compatable with a NeXT running
> 3.3?
I had a similar problem with the postscript tax forms at
http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/taxforms.html. In
Preview.app, all the pages came out overlaid on one another. Tailor.app
handles the file just fine.
-- Ron
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!fdn.fr!uunet!nacm.com!usenet
From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Date: 9 Apr 1995 23:23:07 GMT
Organization: Nicholas|Applegate Capital Management, San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <3m9q8r$aue@nacm.com>
References: <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes:
> On a number of occasions, I have had problems previewing and
> printing postscript that has been generated on a PC...
>
> Anybody have any solutions to this problem?
I had a similar problem with the postscript tax forms at
http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/taxforms.html. In
Preview.app, all the pages came out overlaid on one another. Tailor.app
handles the file just fine.
-- Ron
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!nacm.com!usenet
From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Date: 9 Apr 1995 23:23:27 GMT
Organization: Nicholas|Applegate Capital Management, San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <3m9q9f$auf@nacm.com>
References: <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes:
> I have had problems previewing and printing postscript that has been
> generated on a PC...
>
> Anybody have any solutions to this problem?
I had a similar problem with the postscript tax forms at
http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/taxforms.html. In
Preview.app, all the pages came out overlaid on one another. Tailor.app
handles the file just fine.
-- Ron
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news2.near.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!nacm.com!usenet
From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Date: 9 Apr 1995 23:24:03 GMT
Organization: Nicholas|Applegate Capital Management, San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <3m9qaj$auq@nacm.com>
References: <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes:
> I have had problems previewing and printing postscript that has been
> generated on a PC...
>
> Anybody have any solutions to this problem?
I had a similar problem with the postscript tax forms at
http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/taxforms.html. In
Preview.app, all the pages came out overlaid on one another. The solution
is to use Tailor.app. It handles any kind of postscript.
-- Ron
From: blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Date: 9 Apr 1995 23:24:25 GMT
Organization: Nicholas|Applegate Capital Management, San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <3m9qb9$aur@nacm.com>
References: <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes:
> I have had problems previewing and printing postscript that has been
> generated on a PC...
I had a similar problem with the postscript tax forms at
http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/taxforms.html. In
Preview.app, all the pages came out overlaid on one another. The solution
is to use Tailor.app. It handles any kind of postscript.
-- Ron
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted: NeXT text mail app
Date: 10 Apr 1995 04:03:12 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Message-ID: <3maam0$r8i@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <9504081743.AA06289@alleg.EDU>
Timothy J Luoma (luomat@alleg.EDU) wrote:
: If NeXT won't do this, can others? Is the Mail.app copyrighted, so
: that one would be legally prohibited from making a Terminal version?
: If not, would it be conceivable that someone outside of NeXT could
: actually pull this off?
There was an excellent article on the anatomy of a NeXTmail message in
the latest issue of NeXT In Line. I'm sure that it would be enough
information to pull-off a shell-based mail reader for that format.
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: pppd help!!!
Date: 10 Apr 1995 04:14:03 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <3mabab$l3r@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
References: <How-0804952338030001@how.dialup.access.net> <MAGNAN.95Apr9122050@maths1.mathcn.umontreal.ca>
I have ppp up and running very nicely between a NeXT at home and one at work.
Two questions for anyone running PPP on NeXTs:
1) Have you been able to get NXHost-ing to work between remote and local
machines? How? I can do rsh, rlogin, ftp, telnet, X, but not -NXHost.
2) Is there a way to allow more than one person to connect via PPP to a
single machine? Different local (home end) IPs is not sufficient.
Thanks!
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://www.ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Date: 10 Apr 1995 04:21:56 GMT
Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mabp4$15h@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
References: <3m8ep7$rq2@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Hi,
Although this is true with the PC/Win3.1 postscript driver, the lpr client
included with Windows NT prints properly to a NeXT printer with no modification
or out-of-the-ordinary administration.
Hope that helps,
Tim
In article <3m8ep7$rq2@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> a-prince@ix.netcom.com (Frank
Bellino) writes:
> In <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
> writes:
> >On a number of occasions, I have had problems previewing and
> >printing postscript that has been generated on a PC. My NeXT
> >doesn't seem to know how to deal with it.
> PostScript files, the trick is to open the file first (on the cube) with
> the editor and remove the first (not visable) character (^D) in the file
> (before the '%') and then go to the bottom of the file and replace the
> invisable characters after 'EOF' on the last line to the end with a
> return.
=
=
=
=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was
Message-ID: <1995Apr10.011501.47053@cc.usu.edu>
From: mike@child (Michael Emmel)
Date: 10 Apr 95 01:15:00 MDT
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>
<3l70q2$hgr@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3ma2o8$qat@duck.inetnebr.com> <3ma571$ak4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) wrote:
>Plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) wrote...
>>[NeXT] wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would
merely
>>have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic
purchaser
>>gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
>>Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade.
Whiners.
>Actually, as an academic user myself, I complain not so much about
the
>academic discount (which I admit is a very sizeable price reduction),
>but at the initial price of NS to begin with. NS is great and all,
>but I think most people would be hard pressed to justify spending
that
>kind of money to buy it. If NeXT hopes to compete, indeed to
survive,
<munch>
>Anxiously awaiting GnuStep,
>
Well there is one good thing about NEXT pricing scheme we don't have
to worry about them raising prices for the forseable future or there
future anyway :)
Mike
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 10 Apr 1995 04:15:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3mabci$mj6@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp://ftp.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/sci-tools/eduStep
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCR Scsi driver?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Apr 1995 10:29:18 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mb19u$1gv3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3m30s1$3vs@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
(Jeff Wishnie) (jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com) wrote:
> A colleague at work is looking for a driver for an NCR SCSI card. Does
> anyone know of such a thing? NeXTanswers makes no mention of it.
Of course NeXTanswers doesn't! The whole Nextstep-on-i386 community is
waiting for such a beast. Next scheduled back the driver for Q2/95, despite
it was already planned for Q1.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
else? // Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
From: root@terra (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can Terminal's background made black?
Date: 10 Apr 1995 11:27:26 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <3mb4mu$6a3@mars.earthlink.net>
References: <9504092330.AA23180@alleg.EDU>
Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU> wrote:
> Is it possible to make Terminal's background black,
> and text white or other colors if one prefers?
>No, but this can be done with Stuart, the superior Terminal.app. If
>you use Terminal a lot, change to Stuart. It can be ftp'd from the
>following sites:
>ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Stuart.2
.
>4.N.b.tar.gz (size: 210971)
>ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/Stuart.R
E
>ADME (size: 1031)
>ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources/next-interface/Stuart
2.4.tar.Z
>ftp://santiam.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources/next-interface/Stuart
2.4README
In Terminal.app supplied with NS3.3 user different color backgrounds
and text are possible.
Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to kill
far@earthlink.net # one's fellow citizens, to betray friends,
Agoura Hills, CA # to be without faith, without mercy, without
# religion; by these means one can aquire power
# but not glory.
#
(NeXTmail prefered) # --Nicolo, Machiavelli
(MIMEmail welcome) #
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeX
Date: 10 Apr 1995 13:09:06 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3mbali$dbu@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3kt3li$ts7@syne
In article <3ma2o8$qat@duck.inetnebr.com>,
Pohl Longsine <plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com> wrote:
>Steven S. Rosenblum (srosie@umich.edu) wrote:
>: In article <3kt3li$ts7@synergy.net>,
>: Pohl Longsine <plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com> wrote:
>: >Ishir Bhan (ibhan@fas.harvard.edu) wrote:
>: [chomp]
>: >There is no academic version of NeXTstep. The software is the same.
>: >The license is different: i.e. you pay less up front, but if you intend
>: >to upgrade to 4.0, 4.1, ... you will end up spending more money than
>: >if you just buy a commercial license. (You've been warned, now.
>: >it's part of accepting the terms of the academic license.)
>: >
>: Huh? Are you saying that NeXT is going to raise the academic price
>: when 4.0 ships? Or, alternatively, are they going to lower the non-
>: academic price when 4.0 ships and give free upgrades to those who
>: purchased 3.3?
>
>Perhaps you haven't been following these newsgroups, but there are a lot
>of people who were shocked at how much they had to pay to upgrade their
>academic licenses of 3.2 to academic licenses of 3.3. Assuming the
>upgrade to 4.0 is similar in price for academic licenses, then it might
>be more cost-effective in the long-run to purchase a commercial license
>in the first place. (amortized over several versions)
>
>They wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would merely
>have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic purchaser
>gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
>Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade. Whiners.
>
I am an academic NeXT user, and I'm not complaining. I know a bargain when I
see one.
Like most contexts, the few whiners are visible (audible?), but the huge number
of satisfied, happy campers just go about their business.
I'd offer more, but I have a lecture and handouts to prepare (using OpenWrite,
Create, EquationBuilder, Diagram!, and SciPlot.
Randy Jackson
jackson+@osu.edu
>--
>____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
>\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
> =(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
> U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's happening to NS academic pricing? (was Re: Where to get NeX
Date: 10 Apr 1995 13:14:37 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3mbavt$dcr@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <ibhan-1203950217400001@ibhan.student.harvard.edu> <3l70q2$hgr@last
In article <3ma571$ak4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
Joseph W Reiss <jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>Plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine) wrote...
>>[NeXT] wouldn't have to raise the price to anger people. They would merely
>>have to charge the same price. With today's prices, an academic purchaser
>>gets for ~300 dollars what the rest of us have to pay thousands for.
>>Then they complain when they have to pay ~300 for an upgrade. Whiners.
>
>
>Actually, as an academic user myself, I complain not so much about the
>academic discount (which I admit is a very sizeable price reduction),
>but at the initial price of NS to begin with. NS is great and all,
>but I think most people would be hard pressed to justify spending that
>kind of money to buy it. If NeXT hopes to compete, indeed to survive,
>then there is one thing they need to do before they sink all their
>resources into new widgets and whistles... Get the price down to a
>level that mere mortals can afford. If that means offering a version
>minus some of the extras (Shakespeare, Websters, etc), then so be it.
>But it seems to me that NeXT is well on their way to pricing
>themselves out of the market.
>
>Anxiously awaiting GnuStep,
>Joe
I don't agree. You want performance, you pay for it. Here at OSU, a huge
number of us use high-end PCs, Suns, HPs, SGIs, and Sparcs. So what's the beef
with hardware prices? In academia, the kind of compute power needed for
research easily falls within NeXTs requirement specs.
Do some relevant research, find some funding, and buy what you need (and want)!
Randy Jackson
jackson+@osu.edu
>--
>| NeXTMail OK! | + Who's going to wait 54 years to deliver a letter? |
>| ________ | + The post office. |
>| | |__) | ======================================================== |
>| (_|OE| \EISS | - Al Calavicci and Sam Beckett |
From: chris@opensource.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCR Scsi driver?
Date: 10 Apr 1995 14:24:30 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mbf2u$hbt@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3mb19u$1gv3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Markus Wenzel writes
> (Jeff Wishnie) (jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com) wrote:
> > A colleague at work is looking for a driver for an NCR SCSI card. Does
> > anyone know of such a thing? NeXTanswers makes no mention of it.
>
> Of course NeXTanswers doesn't! The whole Nextstep-on-i386 community is
> waiting for such a beast. Next scheduled back the driver for Q2/95,
despite
> it was already planned for Q1.
Well, not quite the *whole* group of people using NEXTSTEP FIP. ;^)
Cheers
Chris
From: postmaster@pbs.plym.ac.uk (Andy McMullin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help req: INNd on black, under NS 3.1
Date: 10 Apr 1995 14:46:20 GMT
Organization: Plymouth Business School
Message-ID: <3mbgbs$5al@auntie.bbcnc.org.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Hi,
I am having trouble successfully compiling INN-1.4-Secure under 3.1
(black hardware). I get error messages coming out of my ears :-(
Has anyone been sucessful with it?
If so, could they give me a few pointers about setting up "config.data"
etc?
TIA
Regards
Andy McMullin G8TQH
Technical Support, Plymouth Business School, University of Plymouth, UK
Andy@pbs.plym.ac.uk
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCR Scsi driver?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Apr 1995 15:21:34 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mbidu$5aa@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>
References: <3m30s1$3vs@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
(Jeff Wishnie) (jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com) wrote:
/ A colleague at work is looking for a driver for an NCR SCSI card. Does
/ anyone know of such a thing?
The NCR 810 chip is supported by REC (Russian Electronic Company)
Internet: serge@osd.glas.apc.org
/ NeXTanswers makes no mention of it.
NeXT is working on such a driver, but it's not ready yet.
There is a document about it in NeXTanswers:
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1754.htmld/1754.html
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at
GNU OpenStep Development Team, Manager of the Documentation Department
http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/gnustep.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: DataPhile crashing; how to restore my data?
References: <JACOB.95Apr9192357@jnext>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:24:08 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Apr10.092408.20454@proximus.north.de>
In article <JACOB.95Apr9192357@jnext>, Jacob Nielsen <jacob@dannug.dk> wrote:
>I have a large (~1000 records) database in DataPhile and now DataPhile
>dies when I try to access a particular record (no. 32)
>
>Rather than living with the problem, I've decided to recreate the
>database and now the problem is that I cannot get DataPhile to export
>the database to a text file. (it crashes again when it reaches the
>infamous record)
Have you already tried to reindex the database?
Gerhard.
N < principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP Key available on request > N
e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e
X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T
NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Other OS on black hardware?
Date: 10 Apr 1995 21:38:39 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3mc8gv$rj3@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <1995Apr10.194714.3080@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>
In article <1995Apr10.194714.3080@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>
ngorelic@speclab.cr.usgs.gov.cr.usgs.gov (Noel S. Gorelick) writes:
> I recently rescued a color cube and color station from surplus. They
> both had 16MB memory, and giant 21" MegaPixel monitors, so I couldn't
> pass them up. However, since we have a budget the size of a walnut,
> the probability of getting an OS upgrade (or any commercial software)
> for these is negligible.
>
> Is it possible to run an OS other than NeXTStep on these things?
> Any help appreciated,
>
> Noel
> --
> Noel Gorelick - MercWorks Software and Digital Solutions, Denver
> ngorelic@speclab.cr.usgs.gov // "You want it should sing too?"
> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- Who watches the watchmen?"
With Quix's Daydream, you can run Macintosh System 7.x. Let me know if
you'd like more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: root@mjb94.aladdin.co.uk (Eren Kotan as Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Old NEXTSTEP apps anyone?
Date: 11 Apr 1995 02:06:22 GMT
Organization: SoNet - The first Internet provider on the south coast
Message-ID: <3mco6u$4qg@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>
Hi, I am looking for some demonstration apps that were present in the very
early releases of NEXTSTEP. The titles I am especially after are listed
below. I would be very grateful if someone could point me to an FTP site
where these may be found.
Ray.app, Mandelbrot.app(the one which compares plain C code to the code
running on the DSP), Balancer.app, MonsterScope, Saturn.app, Stealth.app,
Synthesizer.app
I believe these apps were in NEXTSTEP 0.9, but were then removed, but I
might be wrong.
Thanks,
Eren
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Other OS on black hardware?
Date: 11 Apr 1995 02:53:13 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3mcqup$ksg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1995Apr10.194714.3080@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> <3mc8gv$rj3@potogold.rmii.com>
Hi Dan! Finally put MELVIN Issue #8 to bed. My second mortgage is in
progress, but i haven't heard anything yet. However, An investor made
nice noises today, so it looks like I'll have what I owe OS within two weeks.
Call me if you need to talk further.
--
Steve Weintz * Art Director & Coding Manager * New Media Publishing, Inc.
(217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) * http://www.melvin.com/
indy@melvin.com * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820
-= Crass Announcement of a Commercial WWW Publication Goes Here =-
From: Blake LeBaron <blake@bootstrap.econ.wisc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Loading Appletalk software from cd (NS 3.3)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:41:26 -0700
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950410133807.17052A-100000@bootstrap.econ.wisc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I recently loaded NS 3.3 FIP from my cd, and I indicated that I didn't
need the appletalk support. Now it turns out that I do need it. I've
been searching around on the cd to find out where this is or how to
install it. Is there a way to install it without reinstalling the whole
system?
blebaron@facstaff.wisc.edu Blake LeBaron
voice: 608-263-2516 Associate Professor
fax: 608 262-2033 Dept of Economics
University of Wisconsin
1180 Observatory Drive
Madison, WI 53706
Subject: Where is Texinfo? (NS3.2 - Moto)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:44:34 PDT
Message-ID: <000A943D.fc@iqinc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Gary_Affonso@iqinc.com (Gary Affonso)
Organization: ImagingQuest
I'm looking for a compiled version of Texinfo for NEXTSTEP 3.2 on a Moto. Both
PNI and ZSH have documentation distributed in this format and it seems like it
would be a better interface to the long ZSH and PNI docs than man.
Thanks,
Gary Affonso - ImagingQuest
gaffonso@iqinc.com
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PhotoCD drivers under NS3.3?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:52:42 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950411145126.12183C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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Please inform me, too!
I also do have this problem with my NS 3.3 on Intel Hardware. It seems as
if there is just no photocd.driver available, true?
Greetings,
Boerny.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do everthing
scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing mistakes.
On 7 Apr 1995, Richard West wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm posting this for a friend (mark@giaia.gcs.oz.au) who has NS3.3 running
> on black hardware. He says that he could view PhotoCD's under 3.2, but that
> now he's upgraded to 3.3, he can no longer read them. Can anyone shed some
> light on this? Please mail any responses to mark as I'm not sure if he'll
> get this newsgroup.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Richard dickw@dino.eng.monash.edu.au
>
>
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRS PS tax forms (was: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript)
Date: 10 Apr 1995 18:19:41 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3mbsrt$mcs@nntp3.u.washington.edu>
References: <3m9q8r$aue@nacm.com>
In article <3m9q8r$aue@nacm.com> blanford@gemstone.com (Ron Blanford)
writes:
> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes:
> > On a number of occasions, I have had problems previewing and
> > printing postscript that has been generated on a PC...
> >
> > Anybody have any solutions to this problem?
>
> I had a similar problem with the postscript tax forms at
> http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/taxforms.html. In
> Preview.app, all the pages came out overlaid on one another. Tailor.app
> handles the file just fine.
>
> -- Ron
My solution to the IRS tax form problem was to delete the ^D that starts
the file, then delete the page count in the %%Pages: declaration that
shows up at the end of the file. Preview then tells you there is a
problem, but the output to the screen and the printer will work properly
(i.e., no overlapping of pages).
Hope this helps.
bb
--
Bill Barker
Biological Structure, SM-20
University of Washington
Seattle WA 98195
(206) 543-7315
"In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is
Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
From: ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can Terminal's background made black?
Date: 10 Apr 1995 18:31:29 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site
Message-ID: <HADAR.95Apr10143129@uunet.uu.net>
References: <3m7me4$d10@news.service.uci.edu> <1995Apr9.090207.7841@seer.demon.co.uk>
In-reply-to: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com's message of Sun, 9 Apr 1995 09:02:07 +0000
In article <1995Apr9.090207.7841@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch) writes:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
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Organization: P & L Systems
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In article <3m7me4$d10@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
writes:
> In article <950408185407.213AACUT.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford
> <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
> > > Is it possible to make Terminal's background black, and text white
> > Yes, in NS 3.3 these and other aspects are all settable in Prefeences
> > (Command-8)
> >
> What about NS 3.2?
Use Stuart or Cables.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Better yet, get TipTop! Fantastic software that does shell stuff AND complete
modem stuff as well. Full (TCL) scripting language built in. Highly
recommended.
And no, UBS does not make TipTop (nor do I for that matter ...).
--
Hadar Pedhazur
Global Equity Derivatives
Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCR Scsi driver?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Apr 1995 19:38:04 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Apr10153804@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3m30s1$3vs@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> <3mb19u$1gv3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In-reply-to: wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de's message of 10 Apr 1995 10:29:18 GMT
<wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de> writes:
>(Jeff Wishnie) (jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com) wrote:
>>A colleague at work is looking for a driver for an NCR SCSI card. Does
>>anyone know of such a thing? NeXTanswers makes no mention of it.
>Of course NeXTanswers doesn't! The whole Nextstep-on-i386 community is
>waiting for such a beast. Next scheduled back the driver for Q2/95, despite
>it was already planned for Q1.
Buy a JCEagle 825 SCSI card from JCIS.
This card costs a measly $150.00 (compared to the adaptec 2940 @ $400),
and JCIS ships you a driver that works with 3.2 or 3.3. The card is
based on the NCR 825 chip, and performs equivalently to the Adaptec 2940
(I have both).
I have been pleased with the support JCIS offers, and have had no
problems with the driver. What's more, their driver supports more
options than NeXT's is planned to have. JCIS's is based on the Talus
driver, from whom they've purchased a source code license, and has been
shipping for almost a year.
- darcy (satisfied customer)
Try "info@jcis.com" for pricing, etc. For a human, try:
JCIS
Bob Lee
bobl@jcis.com
1-510-659-8440
4487 Technology Drive
Fremont, CA 94538
--
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops. -- Veruca Salt -- Baldric, you
wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on
top of a harpsichord singing, "Subtle Plans Are Here Again" -- Atkinson --
The Lord loves a hanging, that's why he gave us necks! -- Hoek and Cat --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ngorelic@speclab.cr.usgs.gov.cr.usgs.gov (Noel S. Gorelick)
Subject: Other OS on black hardware?
Message-ID: <1995Apr10.194714.3080@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>
Sender: news@rsg1.er.usgs.gov
Organization: US Geological Survey
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 19:47:14 GMT
I recently rescued a color cube and color station from surplus. They
both had 16MB memory, and giant 21" MegaPixel monitors, so I couldn't
pass them up. However, since we have a budget the size of a walnut,
the probability of getting an OS upgrade (or any commercial software)
for these is negligible.
Is it possible to run an OS other than NeXTStep on these things?
Any help appreciated,
Noel
--
Noel Gorelick - MercWorks Software and Digital Solutions, Denver
ngorelic@speclab.cr.usgs.gov // "You want it should sing too?"
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- Who watches the watchmen?"
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCR Scsi driver?
Date: 11 Apr 1995 04:03:20 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mcv28$c69@news.blkbox.com>
References: <3mbidu$5aa@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>
In article <3mbidu$5aa@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin
Michlmayr) writes:
> (Jeff Wishnie) (jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com) wrote:
> / A colleague at work is looking for a driver for an NCR SCSI card. Does
> / anyone know of such a thing?
>
> The NCR 810 chip is supported by REC (Russian Electronic Company)
> Internet: serge@osd.glas.apc.org
>
> / NeXTanswers makes no mention of it.
>
> NeXT is working on such a driver, but it's not ready yet.
> There is a document about it in NeXTanswers:
> http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1754.htmld/1754.html
>
> --
The driver being distributed by REC is a pirated version of the Talus 3.3
beta driver. Anyone purchasing this driver is risking serious damage to
their hardware and the risk of wire transfering money to a Russian bank
account, hoping to receive a product that, if received, may or may not
work, should not need explanation.
Steve Sarich
From: ycyang@archer.postech.ac.kr (Y.C.Yang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3md2sn$4ls@xpat.postech.ac.kr>
Control: cancel <3md2sn$4ls@xpat.postech.ac.kr>
Date: 11 Apr 1995 05:14:40 GMT
Organization: POSTECH, Pohang, Korea
Message-ID: <3md380$4ls@xpat.postech.ac.kr>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: ycyang@archer.postech.ac.kr (Y.C.Yang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: .snd, .au, and .wav player?
Date: 11 Apr 1995 05:20:15 GMT
Organization: POSTECH, Pohang, Korea
Message-ID: <3md3if$4ls@xpat.postech.ac.kr>
I am using Sound.app to play *.snd files. But it can't play *.au or *.wav files.
Is there any app. that can play those files in NeXT machine?
please give me informations about that(file names and ftp sites)
thank you in advance.
---
Yang, Yoo-Chang http://chisol.postech.ac.kr/~ycyang/
Adaptive Structures Lab., Dept. of Mechanical Engg., POSTECH, Rep. of Korea
GEd?H-sg+!aua-w+vC+XN++WM+potv--b++e+u++(**)h*f?r*!ny?
TEL(work):82-562-279-2837 ycyang@chisol.postech.ac.kr (NeXTMail welcome)
From: wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCR Scsi driver?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 11 Apr 1995 09:14:30 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3mdh9m$qut@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3m30s1$3vs@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> <3mb19u$1gv3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <SAMURAI.95Apr10153804@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> <D6uEEE.DzB@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Jerry Kuch (gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
> And if you're still running 3.2, and if you can still get ahold of it now that
> NeXT has driven Talus to other (hopefully greener and more friendly), the
> original Talus NCR drivers work just swell too...
Be careful: The Talus 3.2 driver does not work together with some CD ROMs,
e.g. the Apple CD 150.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
else? // Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
From: m94016k53@v9000.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: want SIMULATED ANNEALING software
Date: 11 Apr 95 15:36:29 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Message-ID: <1995Apr11.153629.1@v9000.ntu.ac.sg>
I'd like to find SIMULATED ANNEALING software for optimization. If asnyone
has this software ,please contact mee.Thanks a lot.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Message-ID: <1995Apr11.160632.29289@bme.ri.ccf.org>
Sender: usenet@bme.ri.ccf.org
Organization: Biomedical Engineering, Cleveland Clinic Foundation
References: <3m9qaj$auq@nacm.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 16:06:32 GMT
Ron Blanford writes
>
> I had a similar problem with the postscript tax forms at
> http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/taxforms.html. In
> Preview.app, all the pages came out overlaid on one another. The solution
> is to use Tailor.app. It handles any kind of postscript.
>
> -- Ron
The same thing happened to me when a student of mine generated a multipage
Postscript document using LaTex. It viewed fine with PreView under NS 2.1 but
all the pages were on top of each other when viewed under NS 3.2. BTW, it did
print o.k on my HP LaserJet 4M.... weird...
--
Ivan Vesely, Ph.D.
Associate Scientist
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Cleveland Clinic Foundation
vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
From: rro@athis.jkcg.com (Ron Ohmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PERL FOR NEXT!
Date: 11 Apr 1995 01:28:17 GMT
Organization: Jax Gateway to the World
Message-ID: <3mclvh$9nv@news.gttw.com>
Does anyone have a copy? Source or bin.. I have Black hardware, PKG format
would be WONDERFUL!
Thanks in advance,
Ron Ohmer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Getting external login to NeXTstn
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 11 Apr 95 08:52:50 GMT
Message-ID: <17495100.31970.3875@kcbbs.gen.nz>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
I have a NeXTstation with a broken monitor; It'll be a while getting
fixed and I woukd rather like to check out what's on the hard disc and
make sure it goes OK. Is it possible to get an external login to it
with a PC on the right serial cables etc...? Or do files have to be
setup at the NeXTstn end of the woods?
Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCR Scsi driver?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 11 Apr 1995 15:31:05 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Apr11113105@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3m30s1$3vs@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> <3mb19u$1gv3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
<SAMURAI.95Apr10153804@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
<D6uEEE.DzB@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
<3mdh9m$qut@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In-reply-to: wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de's message of 11 Apr 1995 09:14:30 GMT
<wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de> writes:
>Jerry Kuch (gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
>>And if you're still running 3.2, and if you can still get ahold of it now that
>>NeXT has driven Talus to other (hopefully greener and more friendly), the
>>original Talus NCR drivers work just swell too...
>Be careful: The Talus 3.2 driver does not work together with some CD ROMs,
>e.g. the Apple CD 150.
This is true! The driver shipped by JCIS works under 3.2 and 3.3, but
will not work properly with the NeXT CD-ROM. It works just fine with my
NEC triple speed CD-ROM though.
If you do buy one, ask JCIS which CD-ROMs they know work with their card
and driver.
- darcy
--
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops. -- Veruca Salt -- Baldric, you
wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on
top of a harpsichord singing, "Subtle Plans Are Here Again" -- Atkinson --
The Lord loves a hanging, that's why he gave us necks! -- Hoek and Cat --
From: steveh@sashimi.wwa.com (Steven M. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need a Newsgrazer!
Date: 10 Apr 1995 16:17:25 -0500
Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicago Area Internet Services 312-282-8605 708-367-1871
Message-ID: <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com>
Keywords: news, newsgrazer
Hi all. I'm sure this has been asked 1 zillion times,
but what can I use on a 3.2 black machine to read
news in a "newsgrazer" fashion? I don't think
Newsgrazer can be used anymore can it?
Sure I could use trn, but I'd like
to get the graphical eqivalent of trn (threads
are nice). It doesn't have to be free either.
Thanks to all who reply.
Steve Hoffman (steveh@wwa.com)
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anyone know anything on Netsurfer?
Date: 11 Apr 1995 18:04:50 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3megc2$ene@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3m0722$bv2@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
In article <3m0722$bv2@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> psanders@srd.bt.co.uk
(Paul Sanders) writes:
> I recently saw an advertisement for a product called Netsurfer for NeXT.
> Claims to be the most advanced, usable etc etc browser product for any
> platform.
>
> I checked out their WEB site but there's no demo version, no screen
shots,
> no nothing - does anyone have any experience of it ?? I can't see anyone
> parting with any money on a product noone has seen.
>
> Paul.
> --
> Paul Sanders, Information Systems | Phone: +44 1473 645716
> BT Laboratories, Ipswich IP5 7RE | Fax: +44 1473 642299
> psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (NeXTmail welcome)| "Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead"
Hi,
I currently have a copy for beta testing. It is very slick and easy to
use. You can contact the writers at beta-test@netsurfer.com
..Mike.
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From: jtodd@ss2.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sarrus Software still alive?
Date: 10 Apr 1995 21:23:52 GMT
Organization: Digital Express
Message-ID: <3mc7l8$4p5@news3.digex.net>
Summary: Is Sarrus Software still in business?
Keywords: sarrus, NeXT, SBook, pencilmein, carumba
Has anyone heard anything from Sarrus software? Are they still in business?
I can't get them on the phone, and their email goes unanswered. Their fax
also doesn't pick up. What's the deal? I want to buy some stuff! :)
--
John Todd - Field Sales/Technical Entropy Supervisor - jtodd@digex.net
Digital Express Internet Providers - 1-800-969-9090 x5167 = sales info
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there free/shareware that converts NeXTtiff to gif?
Date: 10 Apr 1995 19:06:02 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mbviq$ka@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <cooncat.95Apr9192045@wombat>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <cooncat.95Apr9192045@wombat> cooncat@wombat.mills.edu writes:
}~ Subject says it all--I want to be able to convert NeXT-created tiffs
}~ to .gif files suitable for posting on the WorldWideWeb. I've searched
}~ for such a program now and then and haven't found anything.
}~
}~ We need this software to run on black NeXTs running 3.0 and 3.2.
}~ Thanks in advance! Please email address above
/LocalLibrary/Services/<servicename>.service/tifftopnm < some.tiff |
/LocalLibrary/Services/<servicename>.service/ppmtogif > some.gif
It's a good place to put such reverse filters that are so related
to the image converters already part of either OmniFilters.service
or PBMfilters.service - of course a hard-link to /usr/local/bin/
might be a good idea too for such filters.
tifftopnm will handle MOST NeXT tiffs. IconBuilder.app can be used
to lasso and convert to a higher colormap those that are not supported
(unless jpeg'd, in which case you're apt to have too many colors for
the 256 shade gifmap).
ppmtogif as posted several years ago on Peanuts runs on black only and
includes -interlace, but not the option to convert ONE color in the
gif to transparent (gif89a). The latest versions of ppmtogif DO support
both options, according to a posting in another group - sorry, I didn't
grab the URL.
+-+
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We do consulting over Internet. E-Mail
tss@TotSysSoft.com for quotes or more info.
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NEXT IN LINE magazine staff technical writer
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Multimedia: NeXTmail(tm) preferred MIME-mail welcome
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From: UC592282@mizzou1.missouri.edu (K YEE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Satan anyone?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 17:07:12 CDT
Organization: University of Missouri, Columbia
Message-ID: <1737DF0C3S86.UC592282@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
References: <1995Apr5.225609.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
In article <1995Apr5.225609.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
:
:Anyone been able to compile Satan on NeXT 3.3 Intel? Been trying a bunch of
:hacks at the code with no luck.
:
What is Satan anyway?
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From: henneber@meds1.MEDCN.UMontreal.CA (Henneberg Kaj-Age)
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Message-ID: <D6u8r9.CKA@cc.umontreal.ca>
Originator: henneber@meds1.MEDCN.UMontreal.CA
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3m8ep7$rq2@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <3mabp4$15h@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:23:30 GMT
Hi,
In article <3mabp4$15h@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>, treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed) writes:
|> Hi,
|> Although this is true with the PC/Win3.1 postscript driver, the lpr client
|> included with Windows NT prints properly to a NeXT printer with no modification
|> or out-of-the-ordinary administration.
|>
|> Hope that helps,
|> Tim
|>
|> In article <3m8ep7$rq2@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> a-prince@ix.netcom.com (Frank
|> Bellino) writes:
|> > In <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
|> > writes:
|> > >On a number of occasions, I have had problems previewing and
|> > >printing postscript that has been generated on a PC. My NeXT
|> > >doesn't seem to know how to deal with it.
|> > PostScript files, the trick is to open the file first (on the cube) with
|> > the editor and remove the first (not visable) character (^D) in the file
|> > (before the '%') and then go to the bottom of the file and replace the
|> > invisable characters after 'EOF' on the last line to the end with a
|> > return.
|>
|> =
|> =
|> =
|> =
My problem is the other way. I use NeXT hardware (NS 3.3) and I want to print
to an HP LaserJet 4 hooked up to a PC running Windows NT. I've set up the
printcap, defined the spool directory and its attributes, and done the niload
and reboot. My printcap looks as follows
hp4ps: \
:lp=:rm=atlmb2:rp=HP4ps:\
:sd=/usr/spool/hp4ps:\
:ty=HP LaserJet 4MP:
If I use lpr from the C-shell, ascii files are printed ok. If I use the print
button in Edit, or if I save a Framemaker file to a PS file with the Print/Save
button and then use lpr on that to send it to the Windows NT printserver, the
raw postscript code is printed. Is there a simple fix to this problem? There are
several Printer description files for the HP4, I just defined one without knowing
the difference. Is this a PC PS problem? I'm also using a remote Texas Instrument
printer hooked up to a Unix box, it works just fine.
Thanks to anybody who can sort this out.
--
________________________________________
Dr. K. Henneberg
Faculte de medecine, Institut de genie biomedical
Universite de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
--
________________________________________
Dr. K. Henneberg
Faculte de medecine, Institut de genie biomedical
Universite de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
From: dougm@akira (Douglas McClure)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need mail utilities/RTF stripper
Date: 11 Apr 1995 21:38:45 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Message-ID: <3mest5$a9n@kelso.pprd.abbott.com>
I am looking to be able to take a NeXT mailbox and run it through a filter
which will spit out a file containing JUST a regular mbox, all ascii, no
attachments or anything. I'm doing this so a PC can read the file, and
all the text of all the messages. So either I need an
app/utility/whatever that can perform this, or I need a RTF stripper to
strip out just the plain text of NeXTMail messages.
Please email me if you know of such packages.
-doug
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Message-ID: <D6w2p1.1Jn@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 21:07:48 GMT
In article <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com> steveh@sashimi.wwa.com
(Steven M. Hoffman) writes:
> Hi all. I'm sure this has been asked 1 zillion times,
> but what can I use on a 3.2 black machine to read
> news in a "newsgrazer" fashion? I don't think
> Newsgrazer can be used anymore can it?
Why not? I'm using NG 3.0, version 75 on my slab with NS3.2.
Michael
--
*** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen
*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-543915
*** michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
*** Michael_Pieper@AC.maus.de (only < 16kB, please)
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need mail utilities/RTF stripper
Date: 12 Apr 1995 19:05:16 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Apr12150517@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3mest5$a9n@kelso.pprd.abbott.com>
In-reply-to: dougm@akira's message of 11 Apr 1995 21:38:45 GMT
<dougm@akira> writes:
>I am looking to be able to take a NeXT mailbox and run it through a filter
>which will spit out a file containing JUST a regular mbox, all ascii, no
>attachments or anything. I'm doing this so a PC can read the file, and
>all the text of all the messages. So either I need an
>app/utility/whatever that can perform this, or I need a RTF stripper to
>strip out just the plain text of NeXTMail messages.
This could help...
/usr/bin/rtf-ascii
- darcy
--
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops. -- Veruca Salt -- Baldric, you
wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on
top of a harpsichord singing, "Subtle Plans Are Here Again" -- Atkinson --
The Lord loves a hanging, that's why he gave us necks! -- Hoek and Cat --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!psinntp!viper!twinpeaks.visix.com!user
From: johnw@visix.com (John West)
Subject: Re: DOOMII Alpha is out
Sender: news@visix.com
Message-ID: <johnw-1204951047560001@twinpeaks.visix.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 14:47:56 GMT
References: <D6Kpnq.DzA@marble.com> <3m1a80$uv0@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <3m4rvn$j58@jumbo.ntplx.net>
Organization: Visix Software Inc.
In article <3m4rvn$j58@jumbo.ntplx.net>, scott@ntplx.net (Scott) wrote:
> Whoa,
>
> This new doom is really SLOW on my machine (486DX2-66...). I prefer the
> tiny VGA console window of Doom 1.2 which ran like lightning--sans
> sound of course.
I agree. It's way too slow to be playable on my machine (NeXTstation Color
Turbo).
The big window of the alpha is only marginally slower than the 200% view
of 1.2, so I would figure that the alpha would be very playable if it had
a smaller window.
Why was this option taken away? Would it be possible to put it back?
> Is there someway to make this alpha version run any faster?
I'd also like to know.
-john
--
John West :: To call [Newt Gingrinch] a weasel is to defame an
(johnw@visix.com) :: entire class of proud indigenous American rodents.
Visix Software Inc.:: -Will Durst
Whatever I say is whatever I say, and not what Visix says.
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From: Ferri_Peter@DCS-Systems.com (Peter Ferri)
Subject: Xedoc question
Message-ID: <1995Apr12.165510.10564@pcp.ca>
Keywords: xedoc
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 95 16:55:10 GMT
A client is looking into merging Sun and NeXT home directories. One of the
options to simplify administration would be to run Xedoc's Netinfo. Briefly
looking thru the Xedoc documentation, the product interoperates with NIS
and BIND the same as if NI/NIS/BIND are running on NeXT machines: ie.;
NI---->NIS---->BIND--->local files
Question: if a Sun NIS client (not running Xedoc) completed a call to the
NIS server, lets say during a login for a passwd entry, would the NIS
server (also running Xedoc - perhaps as a clone) look in NIS and if the
lookup failed consult NI and then return correct information to the calling
program and then to the client? I know this is backward to the normal fall
thru?
This would have certain advantages in an evironment with 250+ Sun's
(Solaris 1.x and 2.x ) , whereby we would not have to maintain Xedoc client
side libraries. Even if we could use this just for the users entries it
would simplify things greatly.
I would appreciate any information.
--
Peter Ferri \/// DCS Systems Limited
_______________________ooO_(o o)_Ooo_______________________
(_)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: PC PostScript v. NeXT PostScript
Message-ID: <D6uFzC.5Lz@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3m3ms4$b3q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <3m8ep7$rq2@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 23:59:36 GMT
Frank Bellino (a-prince@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: We use our black-cube & printer regularly to proof PC/Windows generated
: PostScript files, the trick is to open the file first (on the cube) with
: the editor and remove the first (not visable) character (^D) in the file
: (before the '%') and then go to the bottom of the file and replace the
There is a setting you can change in either the WIN.INI or SYSTEM.INI
that allows you to stop Windows from generating that pesky ^D.
I think the PRINTERS.WRI readme file that is installed in the Windows
directory descibes that problem.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: NCR Scsi driver?
Message-ID: <D6uEEE.DzB@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3m30s1$3vs@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> <3mb19u$1gv3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <SAMURAI.95Apr10153804@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 23:25:26 GMT
In article <SAMURAI.95Apr10153804@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>,
Darcy BROCKBANK <samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:
><wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de> writes:
>
>>(Jeff Wishnie) (jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com) wrote:
>>>A colleague at work is looking for a driver for an NCR SCSI card. Does
>>>anyone know of such a thing? NeXTanswers makes no mention of it.
>
>>Of course NeXTanswers doesn't! The whole Nextstep-on-i386 community is
>>waiting for such a beast. Next scheduled back the driver for Q2/95, despite
>>it was already planned for Q1.
>
>I have been pleased with the support JCIS offers, and have had no
>problems with the driver. What's more, their driver supports more
>options than NeXT's is planned to have. JCIS's is based on the Talus
>driver, from whom they've purchased a source code license, and has been
>shipping for almost a year.
And if you're still running 3.2, and if you can still get ahold of it now that
NeXT has driven Talus to other (hopefully greener and more friendly), the
original Talus NCR drivers work just swell too...
Jerry
(Who ain't getting 3.3 until
more of the performance eating
bugs are gone and the NCR support
is done)
--
Jerry Kuch EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: shunfemd@rest.tasc.com (Michael D. Shunfenthal (Mike))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anyone know anything on Netsurfer?
Date: 12 Apr 1995 17:53:30 GMT
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <3mh42q$n3d@viper.is.rest.tasc.com>
References: <3m0722$bv2@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
In article <3m0722$bv2@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul
Sanders) writes:
> I recently saw an advertisement for a product called Netsurfer for NeXT.
> Claims to be the most advanced, usable etc etc browser product for any
> platform.
>
> I checked out their WEB site but there's no demo version, no screen shots,
> no nothing - does anyone have any experience of it ?? I can't see anyone
> parting with any money on a product noone has seen.
I'm using it now. I had never heard it before this week, but somebody here
did. Our site purchased a few copies because (in their opinion) it is better
than Omniweb.
It allows multiple instances, an integrated (in the main screen) hotlist - but
comes with a large amount of defaults.
Here is their Info screen.
Netsurfer Inc.
430 Tenth St. N.W.
Suite N-105
Atlanta, GA 30318-5769 USA
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From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Date: 12 Apr 1995 20:43:55 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mhe2b$l1e@paladin.american.edu>
References: <3mfef2$41i@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
In article <3mfef2$41i@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com> Bruce Gingery
<bruce@TotSysSoft.com> writes:
:In article <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com> steveh@sashimi.wwa.com (Steven M.
:Hoffman) writes:
:}~ Hi all. I'm sure this has been asked 1 zillion times,
:}~ but what can I use on a 3.2 black machine to read
:}~ news in a "newsgrazer" fashion? I don't think
:}~ Newsgrazer can be used anymore can it?
:
: Shhhhhhhhhh.... don't say that, you might spook this
:NewsGrazer window I'm replying in under 3.2-black.
:
: Bruce Gingery
Did the person who released the NewsGrazer "patch" ever come to term with the
moral implications of releasing patches to an other persons software? Has
anyone heard if Jayson Adams is going to release a new version of Grazer in the
next few years?
---
Torrey McMahon
From: paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CryptorBundle 1.2 vs. pgp 2.6.2
Date: 12 Apr 1995 22:34:14 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <PAUL.95Apr12173414@amber.umsl.edu>
I tried replacing the pgp 2.6 in CryptorBundle with 2.6.2, and it
causes Mail.app to die. Moving back to 2.6 works. Has anyone else
experienced this?
This is on an ND Cube running 3.3.
--
--paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu
=================================================================
The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well
as the poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets,
and to steal bread.
-- Anatole France
=================================================================
From: Bruce Gingery <bruce@TotSysSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Date: 12 Apr 1995 02:38:26 GMT
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mfef2$41i@tssslab.TotSysSoft.com>
References: <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com> steveh@sashimi.wwa.com (Steven M.
Hoffman) writes:
}~ Hi all. I'm sure this has been asked 1 zillion times,
}~ but what can I use on a 3.2 black machine to read
}~ news in a "newsgrazer" fashion? I don't think
}~ Newsgrazer can be used anymore can it?
Shhhhhhhhhh.... don't say that, you might spook this
NewsGrazer window I'm replying in under 3.2-black.
Bruce Gingery
From: Damir Frkovic <damir@pixar.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Web browser with graphics for the NeXT??
Date: 11 Apr 1995 16:22:46 GMT
Organization: PIXAR
Message-ID: <3meacm$q5a@bertie.pixar.com>
Is there a web browser for the NeXT out there somewhere that
that displays graphics?... (that's NOT X based, ie. Mosaic)
Any info would be most appreciated.
damir@pixar.com
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .snd, .au, and .wav player?
Date: 11 Apr 1995 23:02:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mf1qh$ct1@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
References: <3md3if$4ls@xpat.postech.ac.kr>
In article <3md3if$4ls@xpat.postech.ac.kr> ycyang@archer.postech.ac.kr
(Y.C.Yang) writes:
] I am using Sound.app to play *.snd files. But it can't play *.au or *.wav
files.
] Is there any app. that can play those files in NeXT machine?
] please give me informations about that(file names and ftp sites)
] thank you in advance.
]
If you can run X on your machine and it is an m68k machine:
http://www.ccmrc.ucsb.edu/~doug/htmls/MiXViews.html
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://www.ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: ghost@ghost.neosoft.com (Mark C. Allman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PERL FOR NEXT!
Date: 12 Apr 1995 03:40:50 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800
Message-ID: <3mfi42$9vh@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <3mclvh$9nv@news.gttw.com>
Keywords: NeXT, Perl
In article <3mclvh$9nv@news.gttw.com> rro@athis.jkcg.com (Ron Ohmer) writes:
> Does anyone have a copy? Source or bin.. I have Black hardware, PKG format
> would be WONDERFUL!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ron Ohmer
Yes, it's built. From the meta-FAQ for info and source code:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
The meta-FAQ is available as:
html - http://www.khoros.unm.edu/staff/neilb/perl/metaFAQ/metaFAQ.html
postscript - ftp://ftp.khoros.unm.edu/pub/perl/metaFAQ.ps
ascii - ftp://ftp.khoros.unm.edu/pub/perl/metaFAQ.txt
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Where can I get the Perl FAQ?
North America:
[] ftp://ftp.cis.ufl.edu/pub/perl/doc/FAQ
[] ftp://ftp.khoros.unm.edu/pub/perl/faq.gz
[] ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.answers/perl-faq/
[] ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/perl-faq/
Europe:
[] ftp://ftp.cs.ruu.nl/pub/NEWS.ANSWERS/perl-faq/
[] ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/doc/faq
[] ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/perl/FAQ
-------------------------------------------------------------------
..
-------------------------------------------------------------------
5. Where can I get Perl 5?
The Perl 5.000 release notes can be found at:
[] ftp://ftp.khoros.unm.edu/pub/perl/doc/Perlv5.0-Release-Note.gz
[] ftp://perl.com/pub/perl/doc/Perlv5.0-Release-Note.gz
The Perl 5.000 distribution is available from the following
archives:
North America
[] ftp://ftp.cis.ufl.edu/pub/perl/src/5.0/perl5.000.tar.gz
[] ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/perl5.000.tar.gz
[] ftp://ftp.uu.net/languages/perl/perl5.000.tar.gz
[] ftp://ftp.khoros.unm.edu/pub/perl/perl5.000.tar.gz
[] ftp://ftp.cbi.tamucc.edu/pub/duff/Perl/perl5.000.tar.gz
[] ftp://ftp.metronet.com/perlinfo/source/perl5.000.tar.gz
[] ftp://genetics.upenn.edu/perl5/perl5 000.zip
..
By the way, get perl5.001 with patches a, b and c (called perl5.001c,
I believe).
The README talks about running ./Configure to build a set-up config.sh
file, which is then used to configure the source code to build on
your machine. My config.sh file is attached.
I could collect my Perl into a tar file/pkg if really necessary (e.g.,
you don't have the developer stuff).
Questions are welcome.
-- Mark Allman
-- Grad. Student, Physics, Univ. of Houston
-- ghost@ghost.neosoft.com
--- config.sh --- --- snip --- --- config.sh --- --- snip ---
#!/bin/sh
#
# This file was produced by running the Configure script. It holds all the
# definitions figured out by Configure. Should you modify one of these values,
# do not forget to propagate your changes by running "Configure -der". You may
# instead choose to run each of the .SH files by yourself, or "Configure -S".
#
# Configuration time: Sat Apr 8 15:01:01 GMT-0700 1995
# Configured by: ghost
# Target system: ghost.neosoft.com
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alignbytes='2'
aphostname=''
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archlibexp='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/lib/perl5/m68k-next'
archname='m68k-next'
awk='awk'
baserev='5.0'
bash=''
bin='~/Unix/bin'
binexp='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/bin'
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comm='comm'
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contains='grep'
cp='cp'
cpio=''
cpp='cpp'
cpp_stuff='42'
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d_alarm='define'
d_archlib='define'
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d_bsd='undef'
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d_bzero='define'
d_casti32='define'
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d_charvspr='undef'
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d_chroot='define'
d_chsize='undef'
d_closedir='define'
d_const='define'
d_crypt='define'
d_csh='define'
d_cuserid='undef'
d_dbl_dig='define'
d_difftime='define'
d_dirnamlen='define'
d_dlerror='undef'
d_dlopen='undef'
d_dlsymun='undef'
d_dosuid='undef'
d_drem='define'
d_dup2='define'
d_eunice='undef'
d_fchmod='define'
d_fchown='define'
d_fcntl='define'
d_fd_macros='define'
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d_flexfnam='define'
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d_getgrps='define'
d_gethent='define'
d_gethname='undef'
d_getlogin='define'
d_getpgrp2='undef'
d_getpgrp='define'
d_getppid='define'
d_getprior='define'
d_htonl='define'
d_index='undef'
d_isascii='undef'
d_killpg='define'
d_link='define'
d_linuxstd='undef'
d_locconv='define'
d_lockf='define'
d_lstat='define'
d_mblen='define'
d_mbstowcs='define'
d_mbtowc='define'
d_memcmp='define'
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d_mkdir='define'
d_mkfifo='undef'
d_mktime='define'
d_msg='undef'
d_msgctl='undef'
d_msgget='undef'
d_msgrcv='undef'
d_msgsnd='undef'
d_mymalloc='undef'
d_nice='define'
d_oldsock='undef'
d_open3='define'
d_pathconf='undef'
d_pause='define'
d_phostname='undef'
d_pipe='define'
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d_pwchange='undef'
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d_pwexpire='undef'
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d_readlink='define'
d_rename='define'
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d_rmdir='define'
d_safebcpy='define'
d_safemcpy='undef'
d_seekdir='define'
d_select='define'
d_sem='undef'
d_semctl='undef'
d_semget='undef'
d_semop='undef'
d_setegid='define'
d_seteuid='define'
d_setlinebuf='define'
d_setlocale='define'
d_setpgid='undef'
d_setpgrp2='undef'
d_setpgrp='define'
d_setprior='define'
d_setregid='define'
d_setresgid='undef'
d_setresuid='undef'
d_setreuid='define'
d_setrgid='define'
d_setruid='define'
d_setsid='undef'
d_shm='undef'
d_shmat='undef'
d_shmatprototype='undef'
d_shmctl='undef'
d_shmdt='undef'
d_shmget='undef'
d_shrplib='undef'
d_socket='define'
d_sockpair='define'
d_statblks='define'
d_stdstdio='define'
d_strchr='define'
d_strcoll='define'
d_strctcpy='define'
d_strerrm='strerror(e)'
d_strerror='define'
d_strxfrm='undef'
d_suidsafe='undef'
d_symlink='define'
d_syscall='define'
d_sysconf='undef'
d_sysernlst=''
d_syserrlst='define'
d_system='define'
d_tcgetpgrp='undef'
d_tcsetpgrp='undef'
d_telldir='define'
d_time='define'
d_times='define'
d_truncate='define'
d_tzname='define'
d_umask='define'
d_uname='define'
d_vfork='undef'
d_void_closedir='undef'
d_voidsig='define'
d_voidtty=''
d_volatile='define'
d_vprintf='define'
d_wait4='define'
d_waitpid='undef'
d_wcstombs='define'
d_wctomb='define'
d_xenix='undef'
date='date'
db_hashtype='int'
db_prefixtype='int'
defvoidused='15'
direntrytype='struct direct'
dlext='shlib'
dlsrc='dl_next.xs'
dynamic_ext='Fcntl NDBM_File ODBM_File POSIX SDBM_File Socket'
echo='echo'
egrep='egrep'
emacs=''
eunicefix=':'
expr='expr'
extensions='Fcntl NDBM_File ODBM_File POSIX SDBM_File Socket'
find='find'
flex=''
fpostype='fpos_t'
freetype='void'
full_csh='/bin/csh'
full_sed='/bin/sed'
gcc=''
gccversion='NeXT DevKit-based CPP 3.1'
gidtype='gid_t'
glibpth='/usr/shlib /lib/pa1.1 /usr/lib/large /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/386
/lib/386 /lib/large /usr/lib/small /lib/small /usr/ccs/lib /usr/ucblib
/usr/local/lib '
grep='grep'
groupcat=''
groupstype='int'
h_fcntl='false'
h_sysfile='true'
hint='previous'
hostcat='nidump hosts .'
huge=''
i_bsdioctl=''
i_db='undef'
i_dbm='define'
i_dirent='define'
i_dld='undef'
i_dlfcn='undef'
i_fcntl='undef'
i_float='define'
i_gdbm='undef'
i_grp='define'
i_limits='define'
i_malloc='undef'
i_math='define'
i_memory='undef'
i_ndbm='define'
i_neterrno='undef'
i_niin='define'
i_pwd='define'
i_sgtty='define'
i_stdarg='define'
i_stddef='define'
i_stdlib='define'
i_string='define'
i_sysdir='define'
i_sysfile='define'
i_sysfilio='undef'
i_sysin='undef'
i_sysioctl='define'
i_sysndir='undef'
i_sysparam='define'
i_sysselct='undef'
i_syssockio=''
i_sysstat='define'
i_systime='define'
i_systimek='undef'
i_systimes='define'
i_systypes='define'
i_termio='undef'
i_termios='undef'
i_time='undef'
i_unistd='define'
i_utime='define'
i_varargs='undef'
i_varhdr='stdarg.h'
i_vfork='undef'
incpath=''
inews=''
installarchlib='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/lib/perl5/m68k-next'
installbin='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/bin'
installmansrc='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/man/man1'
installprivlib='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/lib/perl5'
installscript='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/bin'
intsize='4'
known_extensions='DB_File Fcntl GDBM_File NDBM_File ODBM_File POSIX SDBM_File
Socket'
ksh=''
large=''
lddlflags='-r'
ldflags='-u libsys_s'
less=''
libc='/lib/libsys_s.a'
libpth='/usr/shlib /lib /usr/lib /usr/local/lib'
libs='-ldbm'
libswanted='dbm gdbm db'
line='line'
lint=''
lkflags=''
ln='ln'
lns='/bin/ln -s'
lp=''
lpr=''
ls='ls'
lseektype='off_t'
mail=''
mailx=''
make=''
mallocobj=''
mallocsrc=''
malloctype='void *'
manext='1'
mansrc='~/Unix/man/man1'
mansrcexp='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/man/man1'
medium=''
mips=''
mips_type=''
mkdir='mkdir'
models='none'
modetype='int'
more=''
mv=''
myarchname='m68k-next'
mydomain=''
myhostname='ghost.neosoft.com'
myuname='ghost.neosoft.com '
n='-n'
nm_opt=''
nroff='nroff'
optimize='-O'
orderlib='false'
osname='next'
osvers='3_3'
package='perl5'
passcat=''
patchlevel='1'
perl='perl'
pg=''
phostname='hostname'
plibpth=''
pmake=''
pr=''
prefix='~/Unix'
prefixexp='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix'
privlib='~/Unix/lib/perl5'
privlibexp='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/lib/perl5'
prototype='define'
randbits='31'
ranlib='sleep 5; /bin/ranlib'
rm='rm'
rmail=''
runnm='true'
scriptdir='~/Unix/bin'
scriptdirexp='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/Unix/bin'
sed='sed'
selecttype='fd_set *'
sendmail=''
sh=''
shar=''
sharpbang='#!'
shmattype=''
shrpdir='none'
shsharp='true'
sig_name='ZERO HUP INT QUIT ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE KILL BUS SEGV SYS PIPE ALRM
TERM URG STOP TSTP CONT CHLD TTIN TTOU IO XCPU XFSZ VTALRM PROF WINCH LOST USR1
USR2'
signal_t='void'
sizetype='size_t'
sleep=''
smail=''
small=''
so='shlib'
sockethdr=''
socketlib=''
sort='sort'
spackage='Perl5'
spitshell='cat'
split=''
ssizetype='int'
startsh='#!/bin/sh'
static_ext=''
stdchar='char'
strings='/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/string.h'
submit=''
sysman='/usr/man/man1'
tail=''
tar=''
tbl=''
test='test'
timeincl='/usr/include/bsd/sys/time.h '
timetype='time_t'
touch='touch'
tr='tr'
troff=''
uidtype='uid_t'
uname='uname'
uniq='uniq'
usedl='define'
usemymalloc='n'
usenm='true'
useposix='true'
usevfork='false'
usrinc='/usr/include/bsd'
uuname=''
vi=''
voidflags='15'
xlibpth='/usr/lib/386 /lib/386'
zcat=''
PATCHLEVEL=1
CONFIG=true
# Variables propagated from previous config.sh file.
POSIX_cflags='ccflags="-posix $ccflags"'
pp_cflags=''
--- config.sh --- --- snip --- --- config.sh --- --- snip ---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!stimpy!jbright
From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: Loading Appletalk software from cd (NS 3.3)
Message-ID: <D6vJIn.9tq@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950410133807.17052A-100000@bootstrap.econ.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:13:35 GMT
Blake LeBaron (blake@bootstrap.econ.wisc.edu) wrote:
: I recently loaded NS 3.3 FIP from my cd, and I indicated that I didn't
: need the appletalk support. Now it turns out that I do need it. I've
: been searching around on the cd to find out where this is or how to
: install it. Is there a way to install it without reinstalling the whole
: system?
Um.....there isn't any appletalk software with 3.3......
It was dropped a couple of releases ago....
later
j
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!newsfeed.pitt.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!not-for-mail
From: ivank@MCS.COM (Ivan Kiselev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sarrus Software still alive?
Date: 11 Apr 1995 15:51:14 -0500
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation
Message-ID: <3meq42$sda@Mercury.mcs.com>
References: <3mc7l8$4p5@news3.digex.net>
Keywords: sarrus, NeXT, SBook, pencilmein, carumba
In article <3mc7l8$4p5@news3.digex.net>, John Todd <jtodd@ss2.digex.net> wrote:
>Has anyone heard anything from Sarrus software? Are they still in business?
>I can't get them on the phone, and their email goes unanswered. Their fax
>also doesn't pick up. What's the deal? I want to buy some stuff! :)
Sarrus Software, Inc.
565 Piligrim Dr. #C
Foster City, CA 94404
(415)345-8950
(800)995-1963
They were alive three months ago...
Ivan
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software
From: clu@malihh.hanse.de (Carsten Lutz)
Subject: CLASSIC or LOOM on NeXT ?
Organization: Rambozo's Realitaetsforschung
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 14:54:12 GMT
Message-ID: <D6zAqD.FGn@malihh.hanse.de>
Moin, folx !
I wonder if anyone is using the CLASSIC or the LOOM system ( these are both
KL-ONE like systems ) on a NeXT computer under either Allegro CL 3.1.20
( that's what I have ) or any free lisp system.
I tried to get CLASSIC to run under Allegro CL 3.1.20, but didn't get it to
work. It compiles without errors but doesn't work afterwards.
If anyone can help please drop me a mail.
greetinx,
Carsten Lutz
--
* Carsten Lutz, Hamburg, FRG / clu@malihh.hanse.de ( NeXTmail accepted ) *
* Voice : +49 40 8502471 Fax: +49 4101 27757 Zyxel : +49 40 8515315 *
* "So ist, wenn Sieg auf Sieg am Ende Untergang bedeutet, der Untergang in *
* unsere Natur gelegt ? - Mag es Menschen in der Zukunft geben, die ihren *
From: How@Panix.com (Howard Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: new program?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 07:17:49 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <How-1304950717490001@how.dialup.access.net>
Hi Everyone:
I am looking for a New reader that does the following things (commercial
or otherwise).
1) Not crash continually (pretty high on my list)
2) Maintain some kind of local database so it does not have to read the
whole thing each time I execute the program.
3) Handle uuencoded files and archives.
This might not seem like a lot but I have been unable thus far to find a
worthy candidate. Any and all suggestions are much appreciated.
How@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Sarrus Software still alive?
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3meq42$sda@Mercury.mcs.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:46:26 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Apr12.104626.18647@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3meq42$sda@Mercury.mcs.com> ivank@MCS.COM (Ivan Kiselev)
writes:
> In article <3mc7l8$4p5@news3.digex.net>, John Todd <jtodd@ss2.digex.net>
wrote:
> >Has anyone heard anything from Sarrus software? Are they still in
business?
> >I can't get them on the phone, and their email goes unanswered. Their
fax
> >also doesn't pick up. What's the deal? I want to buy some stuff! :)
>
> Sarrus Software, Inc.
> 565 Piligrim Dr. #C
> Foster City, CA 94404
> (415)345-8950
> (800)995-1963
And they were replying to email yesterday, and have just moved office.
New details are:
Sarrus Software, Inc.
500 Airport Blvd., #300
Burlingame, CA 94010
415.343.9111
415.343.8588 fax
Email addresses are unchanged.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com (Mark_Tyler_Neher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Sequencing Software
Date: 13 Apr 1995 14:42:52 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Message-ID: <3mjd9c$cbr@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
Is there a MIDI sequencer out there for the NeXT, either free or a pay
product?? I am running on black hardware. Also, how do you hook up said
black box to a MIDI device?? I have MIDI to MIDI cables, but I think I
remember hearing that it would run out of a serial port on the NeXT. Is
there a converter, or a serial to MIDI cable??
Thanks in advance,
MTN
From: Annard Brouwer <annard@thi.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Gupta Database software
Date: 12 Apr 1995 11:42:26 GMT
Organization: TeleHolding International, Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mgeb2$6b3@exit.thi.nl>
Hello,
I've read something about Gupta SQL Base on the Stepwise www server but I could
not find any information regarding the vendor. Does anybody have an email/fax
address of them? Or does anybody have any data and/or experience regarding the
speed of this beast?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Annard
--
Annard Brouwer Software Engineer
NeXT|MIME mail appreciated! TeleHolding International BV
Amsterdam, the Netherlands
From: mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike Zemina)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Commecial s/w preview on web - where?
Date: 13 Apr 1995 14:06:53 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <3mjb5t$6jd@gateway.wiltel.com>
The use to be a location where commercial NeXT software was displayed/described. I
can find that now. Any help?
Mike Zemina
--
/*Proverb: "Sensible people will see trouble coming
and avoid it, but an unthinking person will walk
right into it and regret it later."*/
//I'm from South Dakota. I only work in Oklahoma!
From: emstech@sound.music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 13 Apr 1995 15:53:02 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Message-ID: <3mjhcu$lcj@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com>
Steven M. Hoffman (steveh@sashimi.wwa.com) wrote:
: Hi all. I'm sure this has been asked 1 zillion times,
: but what can I use on a 3.2 black machine to read
: news in a "newsgrazer" fashion? I don't think
: Newsgrazer can be used anymore can it?
: Sure I could use trn, but I'd like
: to get the graphical eqivalent of trn (threads
: are nice). It doesn't have to be free either.
: Thanks to all who reply.
: Steve Hoffman (steveh@wwa.com)
Forget "newsgrazer" use "tin" .. doesn't have Next interface but it's perfect!
;-)
--
Alain Terriault, System Operator Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
Music Faculty, Mcgill University Voice: (514) 398-4552
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Commecial s/w preview on web - where?
Date: 13 Apr 1995 15:28:41 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mju19$plg@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3mjb5t$6jd@gateway.wiltel.com>
Mike Zemina writes
> The use to be a location where commercial NeXT software was
displayed/described. I
> can find that now. Any help?
> Mike Zemina
> --
> /*Proverb: "Sensible people will see trouble coming
> and avoid it, but an unthinking person will walk
> right into it and regret it later."*/
>
> //I'm from South Dakota. I only work in Oklahoma!
>
http://www.stepwise.com
has lots of information on Commercial software, the companies and some
demos available (more coming as they are submitted) (400 packages, 200 ISVs
listed)
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/demos
has lots of demo software
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: Wil Gayle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WWW Cern Software for HP
Date: 13 Apr 1995 19:12:30 GMT
Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems
Message-ID: <3mjt2u$9th@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
Has anyone compiled the CERN WWW Server on a NS 3.2 or 3.3 HP PA-RISC
system? Please send answers to wegayl@reliant.mnet.uswest.com. Thanks.
--
Regards,
Wil Gayle
!nterprise Networking Services
U S West Communications
From: ravine@jnext.ucsd.edu (Michael Ravine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIME, Mail 3.3 and uuencode
Date: 12 Apr 1995 18:44:23 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3mh727$3k@network.ucsd.edu>
I sometimes recieve attachments that are uuencoded, but Mail 3.3 fails to
decode them. Instead, I get the message at the console:
[MimeMessage Warning: No MIME reader known for "x-uuencode"--treating as
7bit]
and it shows up as a text file icon with the uuencoded stuff in it. Is
there anything to be done about this?
From: Moningej@lhl.lib.mo.us (Jim Moninger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Qcodes
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 18:46:18 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Message-ID: <3mh6ln$8p9@kasey.umkc.edu>
I am tring to print a document which contain graphic,using word
perfect 6.0 and Novell 4.01. When I send this file to the printer I
get this error message; Error reading Qcode file. I f I save each page
as a seprate file and print, I do not get this message. Can someone
tell me about Qcodes and how I can solve this problem? E-Mail
Moningej@lhl.lib.mo.us
From: alxs@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Sparkowsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any good CD-player for plain SCSI-drives
Date: 13 Apr 1995 15:20:14 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3mjffe$jna@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
High,
is there any GOOD CDPlayer-tool for any SCSI-CD-ROM-drive?
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Alxeander Sparkowsky E-Mail: alxs@cs.tu-berlin.de
10559 Berlin, Germany alxs@klex.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de <NeXTMail welcome>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: aalto@nmt.edu (Eugene Aalto)
Subject: bad magic number (not a Mach-0 file)
Message-ID: <1995Apr12.192044.29125@nmt.edu>
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 19:20:44 GMT
I am having trouble with a couple of different shareware apps. When I
try to load a saved file or object, it is unable to do so, and gives me the
following error in the console window...
/LocalApps/Games/Solitaire/Klondike.solitaire/Klondike
bad magic number (not a Mach-0 file)
I have had this error with both solitaire.app and GA.app
I am using a NextStation (25MHz '040) mono with NS 3.0
What does this error mean? What do i have to do to fix it?
Please reply via email
Eugene Aalto
aalto@nmt.edu
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Old NEXTSTEP apps anyone?
Date: 14 Apr 1995 05:13:26 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3ml09m$7ek@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <3mco6u$4qg@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>
Eren Kotan as Operator writes
> Hi, I am looking for some demonstration apps that were present in the very
> early releases of NEXTSTEP. The titles I am especially after are listed
> below. I would be very grateful if someone could point me to an FTP site
> where these may be found.
>
> Ray.app, Mandelbrot.app(the one which compares plain C code to the code
> running on the DSP), Balancer.app, MonsterScope, Saturn.app, Stealth.app,
> Synthesizer.app
I've still got them all on a virgin 1.0a oppy. Ray crashes horribly under
NS 3.x; I don't know why. I've got only slow SLIP connectivity, but if
you don't hear from anyone else, let me know and I'll NeXTmail the lot to
you.
How many lightbulb |========================================================
jokes does it take to | Joshua W Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
change the subject? |========================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!qel
From: qel@netcom.com (Mike Bardash)
Subject: X terminal emulator
Message-ID: <qelD6zqDH.Cz6@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 20:32:05 GMT
Sender: qel@netcom3.netcom.com
Does anyone know of a decent and relatively cheap X terminal
emulator that runs on a cube? If you've got one or know
where to get one, please e-mail me at:
qel@netcom.com
Thanks!
Mike
Subject: Re: Where is Gnu's Info? (NS3.2 - Moto)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 95 13:13:00 PDT
Message-ID: <000AA37B.fc@iqinc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Belgium.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.ak.net!nwnexus!iqinc.com!Gary_Affonso
From: Gary_Affonso@iqinc.com (Gary Affonso)
Organization: ImagingQuest
>Previously I wrote:
>I'm looking for a compiled version of Texinfo for NEXTSTEP 3.2 on a Moto. Both
>PNI and ZSH have documentation distributed in this format and it seems like it
>would be a better interface to the long ZSH and PNI docs than man.
After an email response it appears I didn't ask quite the right question. It
seems that Texinfo is a TeX based system of creating documents that can be
either printed or read on the screen. I need only a small utility distributed
with this package called 'info'. My understanding is that this will allow me
view the online version of documents created with Texinfo. I downloaded the
whole Texinfo package from a GNU archive but do not have the technical
experience to get the info utility contained therein to compile properly. Can
anyone point me to (or email me :-) a pre-compiled version of GNU's info program
for Black hardware running NS 3.2?
Thanks,
Gary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert)
Subject: Re: Old NEXTSTEP apps anyone?
Message-ID: <1995Apr14.130518.1087@charon.muc.de>
Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Joe Eybert)
Organization: None
References: <3mco6u$4qg@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 13:05:18 GMT
Eren Kotan as Operator writes
> Hi, I am looking for some demonstration apps that were present in the
very
> early releases of NEXTSTEP. The titles I am especially after are listed
> below. I would be very grateful if someone could point me to an FTP site
> where these may be found.
>
> Ray.app, Mandelbrot.app(the one which compares plain C code to the code
> running on the DSP), Balancer.app, MonsterScope, Saturn.app,
Stealth.app,
> Synthesizer.app
>
> I believe these apps were in NEXTSTEP 0.9, but were then removed, but I
> might be wrong.
>
Look at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in
pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1 .
There are most of these apps from NS V2.1 ( no Ray.app).
--
Peter Eybert, pjoe@charon.muc.de
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Newsgrazer again...
Message-ID: <D70rJI.qE@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:54:54 GMT
Hi there,
is there any possibility to configure NG to show me crossposted
articles only one time? I can't find any option which would set this
feature.
Michael
--
*** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen
*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-543915
*** michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
*** Michael_Pieper@AC.maus.de (only < 16kB, please)
From: tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Other OS on black hardware?
Date: 13 Apr 1995 14:35:17 GMT
Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mjcr5$m2m@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
References: <1995Apr10.194714.3080@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>
Noel S. Gorelick (ngorelic@speclab.cr.usgs.gov.cr.usgs.gov) wrote:
> Is it possible to run an OS other than NeXTStep on these things?
> Any help appreciated,
Plan 9 runs on a NeXTstation. Contact me if you would like to receive more
information!
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at
GNU OpenStep Development Team, Documentation Coordinator/Leader
http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/gnustep.html
From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: new program?
Date: 13 Apr 1995 15:47:41 GMT
Organization: STARnet, L.L.C.
Message-ID: <3mjh2t$d1g@news.starnet.net>
References: <How-1304950717490001@how.dialup.access.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>1) Not crash continually (pretty high on my list)
>2) Maintain some kind of local database so it does not have to read the
> whole thing each time I execute the program.
>3) Handle uuencoded files and archives.
It would also be cool if you could read a set of newsgroups from a local file system
and another set of tagged newsgroups via a default nntp connection WITHOUT changing
your newsrc files.
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc.
email: neil@bMD.com
<URL:http://www.bMD.com/~neil>
From: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com (Peter Lipps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PhotoCD drivers under NS3.3?
Date: 14 Apr 1995 21:29:12 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mmpf8$cme@news.next.com>
References: <3mkemf$kq6@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Keywords: multi-session PhotoCD, CD-ROM XA
In article <3mkemf$kq6@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
[...deleted...]
> The bad thing about NEXTSTEP 3.x is that it does not include support for
> multi-session PhotoCDs. So, if you have a multi-session PhotoCD, you
will
> only be able to view the images recorded in the first session. I had one
> multi-session disk that I took back and had them re-scan all the slides
in
> one session. Make sure you ask for single-session scanning specifically.
> The disadvantage is that with single-session, the lab cannot correct
> scanning mistakes. They can only add a (duplicate) corrected image
> (Happened to me for one image out of 300).
> --
Try
info@tools.de
and ask for their CD-ROM XA driver which comes as part of their PaperOut
Electronic Books Reader.
Last time I checked they supported multisession on Sony CDU-561 and
Toshiba XM3401B. Probably they added to the list of supported CD-ROM
drives since then.
Hope this helps
-Peter
______________________________
Peter Lipps
SPEAKING FOR HIMSELF
NeXT Computer Deutschland GmbH - Oskar-Messter-Str. 24, 85737 Ismaning,
Germany
InterNet: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PhotoCD drivers under NS3.3?
Date: 14 Apr 1995 00:13:02 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mkemf$kq6@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950411145126.12183C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.950411145126.12183C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.
de> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
>Please inform me, too!
>
>I also do have this problem with my NS 3.3 on Intel Hardware. It seems as
>if there is just no photocd.driver available, true?
>
>Greetings,
>
> Boerny.
>
>_________________________________________________________________________
____
>Bernhard Scholz (IRC: (Boerny) #amiga, #next) Opinions are my own!
>scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (prefered) Computers can do
everthing
>scholz@gsocmail.rm.op.dlr.de (emergency) better than human ---
>http://www.leo.org/~scholz/scholz.html especially doing
mistakes.
I have black hardware (Black CD Drive as well). I just put in my PhotoCD
disk and it showed up just fine. I was able to use PhotoAlbum to open the
images. It still works.
The bad thing about NEXTSTEP 3.x is that it does not include support for
multi-session PhotoCDs. So, if you have a multi-session PhotoCD, you will
only be able to view the images recorded in the first session. I had one
multi-session disk that I took back and had them re-scan all the slides in
one session. Make sure you ask for single-session scanning specifically.
The disadvantage is that with single-session, the lab cannot correct
scanning mistakes. They can only add a (duplicate) corrected image
(Happened to me for one image out of 300).
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
http://libra.arch.umich.edu/Students/Wassim.Jabi/Portfolio/
From: yong@iitmax.acc.iit.edu (Yong Yoo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: QUESTION: sound player for .au or .wav?
Date: 14 Apr 1995 09:57:55 -0500
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mm2hj$9c2@iitmax.acc.iit.edu>
Hi, I was wondering if there is a program that will let me play .au or .wav
files in Intel NeXT machine.
thanks
Yong Yoo
yong@iitmax.acc.iit.edu
--
Yong
yong@iitmax.acc.iit.edu
From: glocker@sirius.com (Andreas Glocker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Voice Mail applications wanted
Date: 14 Apr 1995 15:36:00 GMT
Organization: Sirius Connections
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mm4p0$o7g@sun.sirius.com>
Keywords: voice mail, software
A view years ago thier where several voice
mail applications for the NS available. Have any
of them been implemented on the PC platform?
MIX or perhaps i-mix used to make a package for
black hw...
Please let me know of any supported software.
Andreas
From: Damir Frkovic <damir@pixar.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb and disk space problems...
Date: 14 Apr 1995 22:06:34 GMT
Organization: PIXAR
Message-ID: <3mmrla$cno@bertie.pixar.com>
Anybody out there experience this problem with OmniWeb...
OmniWeb loads images into a temporary scratch dir before it
displays them with OmniImagefilter... durring a long session
the amount of stuff in that temp dir can realy add up and eat
up a ton of space... When I quit OmniWeb it deletes those
files... BUT it doesn't free up the space on the disk!
Only if I reboot the machine does the disk space actually come
back.
Any thoughts?... Do I have something set wrong?... What?
damir@pixar.com
From: tck@tis.com (W. J. La Cholter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Info: Word Processors
Date: 14 Apr 1995 17:55:00 GMT
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mmctk$4g7@shemesh.tis.com>
Keywords: word processor, intel
I'm looking to get a word processor for NEXTSTEP Intel 3.3. I have 16 MB
of RAM. What are good, affordable word processors, including those with
educational discounts? I appreciate any suggestions.
--
W. J. La Cholter <tck@tis.com> Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Info: Word Processors
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3mmctk$4g7@shemesh.tis.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 22:48:55 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Apr14.224855.28771@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3mmctk$4g7@shemesh.tis.com> tck@tis.com (W. J. La Cholter)
writes:
> I'm looking to get a word processor for NEXTSTEP Intel 3.3. I have 16
MB
> of RAM. What are good, affordable word processors, including those with
> educational discounts? I appreciate any suggestions.
The options are:
OpenWrite from Xanthus.
Pages from Pages.
WriteUp from AFS.
All three are good, and all three are very different. You can work out
the info email addresses for each supplier, I am sure.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Date: 14 Apr 1995 21:01:16 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mmnqs$2mb@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3mhe2b$l1e@paladin.american.edu>
tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon) writes:
> Did the person who released the NewsGrazer "patch" ever come to
> term with the moral implications of releasing patches to an other
> persons software? Has anyone heard if Jayson Adams is going to
> release a new version of Grazer in the next few years?
I'd recommend that people assume there will never be a newer
version of NewsGrazer, and that NewsGrazer Pro will never see
the light of day (not to the general buying public, at least).
It's quite possible that I'll be wrong with that, but I think
it's silly for people to keep sitting around thinking that
something's going to happen with NewsGrazer when so little
has happened with it in the last three years. If you want to,
you're welcome to wait another three years to see what that
brings you.
As to patching NewsGrazer, I don't believe it was ever released.
There are other ways to patch NewsGrazer which would not bring
about any moral dillema's, most of which involve writing code.
One could probably hack together something that would find-and-
avoid news articles that would crash NewsGrazer, for instance,
or one could track down the source to Alexandra and contribute
to the development of true alternative to NewsGrazer.
The other option would be to check out Eloquent, which is a
commercial package that handles both email and news. The fact
that it handles both is attractive, though I haven't had the time
to investigate it myself. It has a big advantage in that it's
hear, now. You can buy it. It's supported. It exists. It
costs money, too, but then if NewsGrazer Pro were to be released
it's extremely likely to cost money too.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle 1.2 vs. pgp 2.6.2
Date: 14 Apr 1995 21:08:00 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mmo7h$2qo@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <PAUL.95Apr12173414@amber.umsl.edu>
paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes:
> I tried replacing the pgp 2.6 in CryptorBundle with 2.6.2, and
> it causes Mail.app to die. Moving back to 2.6 works. Has anyone
> else experienced this?
There is some command-line option to PGP (the program) which
CryptorBundle expects, and which doesn't exist in release 2.6.2.
You'd have to change the source to PGP 2.6.2 to add that missing
parameter. You don't have to *do* anything with it, I think,
but you do need to recognize it (the 2.6.2 version exits with an
error if you specify the obsolete parameter, I guess).
I'd be more specific, but it seems that I didn't keep the article
that described the problem and the fix to it...
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer again...
Date: 14 Apr 1995 21:12:03 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mmof3$2sh@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <D70rJI.qE@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) writes:
> is there any possibility to configure NG to show me crossposted
> articles only one time? I can't find any option which would set
> this feature.
You're probably using an earlier version of NewsGrazer, which did
not know how to do this. The latest version, which claims to be
"Release 3.0, Version 75" from 1992, does check for cross-postings.
You still see the cross-posted articles in the list, but if you've
read the article in one group then it will already be marked as
being read in any other groups it's cross-posted to (as long as you
see it in the second newsgroup during the same run of NewsGrazer
when you read it in the first newsgroup).
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PhotoCD drivers under NS3.3?
Date: 14 Apr 1995 21:36:54 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mmptm$3mb@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950411145126.12183C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
On 7 Apr 1995, Richard West wrote:
> I'm posting this for a friend (mark@giaia.gcs.oz.au) who has
> NS3.3 running on black hardware. He says that he could view
> PhotoCD's under 3.2, but that now he's upgraded to 3.3, he can
> no longer read them. Can anyone shed some light on this? Please
> mail any responses to mark as I'm not sure if he'll get this
> newsgroup.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Richard dickw@dino.eng.monash.edu.au
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> replied:
> Please inform me, too!
>
> I also do have this problem with my NS 3.3 on Intel Hardware. It
> seems as if there is just no photocd.driver available, true?
To which Garance now adds:
PhotoCD's work fine for me under NeXTSTEP 3.3, on both NS/Intel
and NS/m68k platforms. On NS/Intel I'm using a Toshiba-based
CD-ROM drive, on the NeXT hardware I'm using the CD-ROM drive
that NeXT used to sell. As long as you have single-session
PhotoCD's, you shouldn't have any problem.
The most likely source of trouble is if you have a Toshiba-based
CD-ROM drive, or something similar to those. In that case, there's
some SCSI command that has to be sent to the drive before everything
will work right under NeXTSTEP. There is a program to do this, called
"XAmode".
If this used to be working for you before you upgraded to NS-3.3,
then you probably have the program somewhere, but you let the
upgrade replace /etc/rc.local. You were probably running XAmode
from /etc/rc.local, and either the location of the program moved
during your install, or you lost that part of /etc/rc.local which
checked for and ran XAmode. Hmm. Another possiblity is that you
happened to change the SCSI ID # of your CD-ROM drive, and thus
the run of XAmode isn't able to find the drive anymore.
Hope this helps. I do know that PhotoCD's work OK under NS-3.3.
I'd like to see better support, but the support that was there
has not disappeared.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
Subject: Re: Web browser with graphics for the NeXT??
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <D72Cxt.p64@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 06:34:40 GMT
References: <3meacm$q5a@bertie.pixar.com>
Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it.
In article <3meacm$q5a@bertie.pixar.com>,
Damir Frkovic <damir@pixar.com> wrote:
>Is there a web browser for the NeXT out there somewhere that
>that displays graphics?... (that's NOT X based, ie. Mosaic)
>Any info would be most appreciated.
>
>damir@pixar.com
Nexus.app, the "original" WWW software, is available on
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, I believe.
--
Chadwick A. Dubuque cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu
http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Record video images with NeXT dimension?
Date: 15 Apr 1995 14:57:06 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3moms2$nus@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Greetings,
I would like to be able to start a chron job on my NeXT dimension that
periodically records a video-snapshot (and sends it by mail).
Can I do that with NeXT-TV?
How would I do the same with audio recordings?
Thanks,
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Beckman Institute, Physics Dept. UIUC
405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801,gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu, gmk@igc.apc.org,
gmk@santafe.edu, (217)-244-5877(voice),x5493(fax1),x8371(fax2), x1994 (msg)
URLs: http://www.ccsr.uiuc.edu/~gmk/, ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/gmk
From: dmujadzi@public.srce.hr (Denis Mujadzic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Install for scanner (LOGITECH)
Date: 15 Apr 1995 17:24:07 GMT
Organization: University Computing Centre, Zagreb, CROATIA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3movfn$btn@nippur.irb.hr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am lookin' for a first install disk (1/2) for Logitech
ScanMan (hand) color scanner.
Please "zip"it & e-mail me !
Thanks in advance !!
Denis
From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Sequencing Software
Date: 15 Apr 1995 17:51:36 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3mp138$q22@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <3mjd9c$cbr@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com (Mark_Tyler_Neher) wrote:
> Is there a MIDI sequencer out there for the NeXT, either free or a pay
> product?? I am running on black hardware. Also, how do you hook up said
> black box to a MIDI device?? I have MIDI to MIDI cables, but I think I
> remember hearing that it would run out of a serial port on the NeXT. Is
> there a converter, or a serial to MIDI cable??
For a little bit of info, check out the followups to the post on
comp.sys.next.misc by Faizel Dakri called 'Requesting info on black
hardware'.
From: oc@hukatronic.cz (Ondra Cada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PSION Link
Date: 15 Apr 1995 14:32:01 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9504151823.AA04751@ocs.hukatronic.cz>
Hallo all,
are there any users of PSION Series3/3a/HC/Workabout palmtop
computers? I've just finished a very alpha release of S3Link,
NEXTSTEP application which allows file transfer from PSION to
NEXTSTEP (and potentially any other communication, including PDO
<evil grin>).
Anyway, I like to know if somebody should want such a program (in
which case I'll finish features I personally don't need, eg file
transfer NS->PSION). I'm looking forward your (preferrably email)
answers ...
Ondra Cada
ocs@earn.cvut.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
(please do not reply to hukatronic.cz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rwach@woodlawn.uchicago.edu (Chip Ach)
Subject: Compiling Perl 5.001c on NS 3.0 black?
Message-ID: <D73y4E.CpE@midway.uchicago.edu>
Keywords: Perl 3.0 black
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 03:09:50 GMT
Has anyone compiled Perl 5.001c for real (black) NeXTStep 3.0? If so,
would you mind sharing your config.sh with me so I can compile it for myself?
Thanks,
Chip
From: daniels222@aol.com (DanielS222)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: My computer made me stressed & depressed--positive ions
Date: 15 Apr 1995 21:29:46 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3mprua$ksv@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Hello Netters,
On 2/14/95 CBS Evening News with Connie Chung, Dr. Bob Arnot did a story
about negative ions and their effect on mood. They talked about a study
done at Columbia University where exposure to a high density negative ion
generator was as effective in treating winter depression as medication.
I became very interested because I have suffered from depression and
anxiety for years, and I did some research on the benefits of negative
ions.
This research turned out to be especially interesting to me because I
found a newspaper article discussing the fact that computer monitors emit
positive ions - the opposite of negative ions. The article says computer
monitors give off large amounts of positive ions and can actually cause
depression, stress, fatigue, etc. in people who sit in front of computers
a lot - like all of us Netters - and that we need negative ion
replenishment.
After reading the article, I realized that I always felt especially
irritable, stressed, and depressed after long days in front of my
computer.
In doing the research, I found that negative ions have shown to be
therapeutic for stress, irritability, fatigue, depression, etc. So I
purchased a small, high density generator and it has given me substantial
relief from my symptoms.
If any of you would like me to e-mail you that newspaper article, the
transcript of the CBS news story, as well as the other research that I
have compiled, just e-mail me at DanielS222@aol.com.
-dan
From: Eren Kotan on root@mjb94.aladdin.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DoomII on ND?
Date: 16 Apr 1995 02:19:11 GMT
Organization: SoNet - The first Internet provider on the south coast
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mpuqv$s@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>
References: <3m0rvj$7g4@news.iastate.edu>
sela@iastate.edu writes
>
> I have heard that DoomII won't work on the ND. Is this true?
Yes, this seems to be true. I have tried to run DoomII on my ND system,
and the game stops initialising with a message to the effect of "mapping
NeXTDimension fails, NeXTDimension is not mappable." I don't know whether
there is a switch which will stop Doom from trying to map the ND board, as
there is no documentation with the game.
Sorry to see that none of the really interesting apps don't bother taking
advantage of what must surely be one of the most powerful graphics boards
in any system.
There again, I am yet to find a program which *is* specifically written to
support a ND. Most of them seem to be written specifically not to support
it ;-} Not a big enough user base, etc.
*Sigh*
Eren Kotan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Message-ID: <1995Apr16.020946.4671@millennium.com>
Keywords: info@farcast.com
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
References: <3mjhni$lcj@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <3mjqbd$b0b@kelso.pprd.abbott.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 02:09:46 GMT
In article <3mjqbd$b0b@kelso.pprd.abbott.com>, Douglas McClure writes:
> In article <3mjhni$lcj@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> emstech@sound.music.mcgill.ca
> (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician) writes:
> > this is a little suggestion for all of you who have problen with
> > "newsgrazer" .. have a look at "tin", it's probably the best newsreader
>
> Personally, I would suggest 'nn' as being the best newsreader. I know I
> could blitz through thousands of articles much faster with it than any
> other newsreader.
Me like Newsgrazer Pro the best!
__jayson
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DoomII on ND?
Date: 16 Apr 1995 08:38:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mql2k$q23@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3mpuqv$s@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>
Eren Kotan on root@mjb94.aladdin.co.uk writes
> There again, I am yet to find a program which *is* specifically
> written to support a ND. Most of them seem to be written
> specifically not to support it ;-} Not a big enough user base,
> etc.
>
> *Sigh*
>
> Eren Kotan
Parts of TIFFany II, namely the animation support, is specially designed
to support the ND board for animation output to video.
- Stan
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+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
| Stan Jirman -- The Swiss CS Guy | |
| http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj/ | When you find yourself |
| Box 2642, Stanford, CA (415) 497 HEXO | in a hole, stop digging |
| stanj@cs.stanford.edu NeXTmail / MIME | |
+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: My computer made me stressed & depressed--positive ions
Date: 16 Apr 1995 05:11:40 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Apr16011140@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <3mprua$ksv@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
In-reply-to: daniels222@aol.com's message of 15 Apr 1995 21:29:46 -0400
<daniels222@aol.com> writes:
>After reading the article, I realized that I always felt especially
>irritable, stressed, and depressed after long days in front of my
>computer.
>In doing the research, I found that negative ions have shown to be
>therapeutic for stress, irritability, fatigue, depression, etc. So I
>purchased a small, high density generator and it has given me substantial
>relief from my symptoms.
Here's a better solution: get the hell out from behind the screen and go
run around outside in the sun for a while. The depression and fatigue
are more likely the result of sitting on your rear end staring and
typing, rather than doing things your body was built to do.
How many newsgroups did this spam to anyway?
- db
--
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops. -- Veruca Salt -- Baldric, you
wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on
top of a harpsichord singing, "Subtle Plans Are Here Again" -- Atkinson --
The Lord loves a hanging, that's why he gave us necks! -- Hoek and Cat --
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Page break in Edit.app?
Date: 16 Apr 95 11:55:01 EST
Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <1995Apr16.115501.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Is there anyway to put a page break in a document via Edit.app? If not, is
there some way I might add one to an rtf document using formatting codes in
another editor (like emacs or vi)?
Thanks for any input.
Scott
Scott Davenport / sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu / NeXTMail OK!
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Date: 16 Apr 1995 17:17:28 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3mrjf8$naf@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <1995Apr16.020946.4671@millennium.com>
-> Me like Newsgrazer Pro the best!
->
-> __jayson
Are you still working on this? If so, do you have a planned release date
and release price? Or, given that there is no email address in your
"from:" are you just making fun of us?
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance (ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu)
AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3mrjf8$naf@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 19:15:42 +0000
Message-ID: <1995Apr16.191542.4169@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3mrjf8$naf@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
>
> -> Me like Newsgrazer Pro the best!
> ->
> -> __jayson
>
> Are you still working on this? If so, do you have a planned release
date
> and release price? Or, given that there is no email address in your
> "from:" are you just making fun of us?
Or are you willing to sell NewsGrazerPro and NoteBook to a company that is
preapred to sell it in the NeXTSTEP market?
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: ghost@ghost.neosoft.com (Mark C. Allman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compiling Perl 5.001c on NS 3.0 black?
Date: 16 Apr 1995 19:58:10 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800
Message-ID: <3mrssi$i8g@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <D73y4E.CpE@midway.uchicago.edu>
Keywords: NeXT, Perl
In article <D73y4E.CpE@midway.uchicago.edu> rwach@woodlawn.uchicago.edu (Chip
Ach) writes:
> Has anyone compiled Perl 5.001c for real (black) NeXTStep 3.0? If so,
> would you mind sharing your config.sh with me so I can compile it for myself?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chip
Perl5 has been built using NS 3.3 (User and Developer). The
config.sh file is below.
-- Mark Allman
-- ghost@ghost.neosoft.com
---- Snip ---- ---- Snip ---- ---- Snip ---- ---- Snip ----
#!/bin/sh
#
# This file was produced by running the Configure script. It holds all the
# definitions figured out by Configure. Should you modify one of these values,
# do not forget to propagate your changes by running "Configure -der". You may
# instead choose to run each of the .SH files by yourself, or "Configure -S".
#
# Configuration time: Sat Apr 15 17:06:01 GMT-0700 1995
# Configured by: ghost
# Target system: ghost.neosoft.com
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d_xenix='undef'
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db_hashtype='int'
db_prefixtype='int'
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dlext='shlib'
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glibpth='/usr/shlib /lib/pa1.1 /usr/lib/large /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/386
/lib/386 /lib/large /usr/lib/small /lib/small /usr/ccs/lib /usr/ucblib
/usr/local/lib '
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i_pwd='define'
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i_unistd='define'
i_utime='define'
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i_varhdr='stdarg.h'
i_vfork='undef'
incpath=''
inews=''
installarchlib='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/perl5_m68/lib/perl5/m68k-next'
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intsize='4'
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Socket'
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modetype='int'
more=''
mv=''
myarchname='m68k-next'
mydomain=''
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myuname='ghost.neosoft.com '
n='-n'
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optimize='-O'
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osvers='3_3'
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passcat=''
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prototype='define'
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rmail=''
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scriptdir='~/perl5_m68/bin'
scriptdirexp='/PrecisionApp/usr/ghost/perl5_m68/bin'
sed='sed'
selecttype='fd_set *'
sendmail=''
sh=''
shar=''
sharpbang='#!'
shmattype=''
shrpdir='none'
shsharp='true'
sig_name='ZERO HUP INT QUIT ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE KILL BUS SEGV SYS PIPE ALRM
TERM URG STOP TSTP CONT CHLD TTIN TTOU IO XCPU XFSZ VTALRM PROF WINCH LOST USR1
USR2'
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sizetype='size_t'
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spitshell='cat'
split=''
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static_ext=''
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strings='/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/string.h'
submit=''
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tr='tr'
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uuname=''
vi=''
voidflags='15'
xlibpth='/usr/lib/386 /lib/386'
zcat=''
PATCHLEVEL=1
CONFIG=true
# Variables propagated from previous config.sh file.
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d_byacc='undef'
d_drem='define'
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From: oc@hukatronic.cz (Ondra Cada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NSString and UNICODE
Date: 16 Apr 1995 14:31:43 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9504161155.AA05251@ocs.hukatronic.cz>
Hallo all,
Anybody knows if NeXTs UNICODE supports my native language characters
with acute: aeiloruyAEILORUY
with caron: cenrszCENRSZ
with rightquote (or at least with caron): dltDLT
with ring: uU
with grave: oO
with dieresis: aeouAEOU
and if so, which UNICODE codes represent them?
I know standard NeXTEncoding (and thereafter current implementation
of NSCharacterSet as well) doesn't support most of these. We
understand 'classic' NEXTSTEP encoding well and we are able to
change it to support the above characters, but now we badly need to
extend this support to Foundation Kit.
I'm looking forward your (preferrably email) answers ...
Ondra Cada
ocs@earn.cvut.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
(please do not reply to hukatronic.cz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jayson Adams
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Message-ID: <1995Apr17.021740.5116@millennium.com>
Keywords: info@farcast.com
Sender: jayson@millennium.com
Organization: Millennium Software Labs, Inc.
References: <3mrjf8$naf@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> <1995Apr16.191542.4169@seer.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 02:17:40 GMT
In article <1995Apr16.191542.4169@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul Lynch writes:
> In article <3mrjf8$naf@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
> Welch) writes:
> >
> > -> Me like Newsgrazer Pro the best!
> > ->
> Or are you willing to sell NewsGrazerPro and NoteBook to a company that is
> preapred to sell it in the NeXTSTEP market?
Last I checked there is a company selling NoteBook in the NEXTSTEP "market"
(at least it's not the pen computing market, I guess). As far as selling to
another company goes, anything's possible if the price is right (I'm certain,
however, no one's prepared to meet the price I would personally be happy
with; not saying anything like this is even remotely in the works).
__jayson
From: anomaly@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Adrian Silveanu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Looking for Apps for NeXTStep v3.2 for Intel
Date: 16 Apr 1995 21:50:23 -0500
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3msl1f$s2u@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
Hello,
I am looking for a wordprocessor, spreadsheet, graphing, and a picture
viewer (Jpeg & Gifs) and/or editor (freeware and/or shareware) programs.
A friend told me that he heard of a wordprocessor called OpenWrite, but
neither he or I could find it anywhere on the net.
Is there a FAQ for NeXTStep v3.2 for Intel?
Is there a list of programs that are compatible with NeXTStep for
Intel?
Thanks alot!
Adrian Silveanu
anomaly@expert.cc.purdue.edu
From: Ken Foust <fousto@neta.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WTB soft pc for intel 3.3 at decent price
Date: 17 Apr 1995 03:28:56 GMT
Organization: Internet Access, Chandler Arizona
Message-ID: <3msn9o$e5i@trojan.neta.com>
299 to run windows is B.S. Windows is not even worth $25. If my partner didn't need me to run !st act I wouldn't even bother. Thanks
From: p7002bs@hp21.lrz-muenchen.de ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Interphone on NeXT?
Date: 17 Apr 1995 09:58:02 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mte3a$d97@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Summary: Internet Phone on NeXT?
Keywords: Internet Phone
Hi all !
Have you heard of Interphone the Internet phone solution of Vocaltec (www.vocaltec.com) for PCs with a sound card ? It lets you phone through TCP/IP to other users with Interphone.
Do you think something like this is possible on the next. Porting the application, etc. Do you know of any application that exists to communicate with Interphone ???
Please let me know what you think !!!
Thanks,
Marc
_______________________________________________________
Marc Haberland
Am Bogen 13
85521 Ottobrunn
Germany
Tel. ++49 89 6090917
p7002bs@hpmail.lrz-muenchen.de
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 17 Apr 1995 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3msq0e$oah@digifix.digifix.com>
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===============================================
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- User Group information
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You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
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news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
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news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
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news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
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(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
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SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
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If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
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files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
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If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
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USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Web browser with graphics for the NeXT??
Date: 17 Apr 1995 14:33:38 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <3mtu82$lso@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <3meacm$q5a@bertie.pixar.com> <D72Cxt.p64@ns1.nodak.edu>
Chadwick A. Dubuque (cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu) wrote:
> In article <3meacm$q5a@bertie.pixar.com>,
> >Is there a web browser for the NeXT out there somewhere that
> >that displays graphics?... (that's NOT X based, ie. Mosaic)
> >Any info would be most appreciated.
> Nexus.app, the "original" WWW software, is available on
> ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, I believe.
for a bit more luxury, there are OmniWeb (see www.omnigroup.com or
www.lighthouse.com), Spiderwoman (ETH Lausanne, forgot the URL) and the
mysterious announcement of NetSurfer.
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh,
Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics
Leiden University
gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
From: daniels222@aol.com (DanielS222)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: 17 Apr 1995 11:00:52 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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From: lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette A. Williams)
Subject: SoftPC help!
Message-ID: <1995Apr17.152317.27830@leo.vsla.edu>
Organization: Virginia State Library
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 15:23:17 GMT
Hi!
I'm responsible for setting up a machine for a new user, and
I've run into some difficulty. :) I'm running SoftPC 4.0 on
my Next (Intel-based). I have to be able to run a piece of
software called Business Session to attach to the company's
HP3000 minicomputer.
For some reason, the software isn't "finding" the serial port
(which is where my hard connection to the HP is connected...).
I think it has something to do with NeXT and the serial port,
but I'm not sure. I could use some help... :)
And before someone asks why I don't just use Terminal to
attach, I need to have something called "block mode" to do work
on the HP. <shrug> Requirement of the user's job...
Anyone else using something like this? :)
THANKS big time!
Lucette :)
The Library of Virginia
lawillia@leo.vsla.edu
Richmond, VA
From: Patrick Stein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Interphone on NeXT?
Date: 17 Apr 1995 22:39:08 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3muqmc$9gt@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3mte3a$d97@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
> Have you heard of Interphone the Internet phone solution of Vocaltec (www.vocaltec.com) for PCs
with a sound card ? It lets you phone through TCP/IP to other users with Interphone.
>
> Do you think something like this is possible on the next. Porting the application, etc. Do you
know of any application that exists to communicate with Interphone ???
>
> Please let me know what you think !!!
Years ago ( back in '92 ) someone wrote a programm called InterPhone on NeXT's ( of course )-
- just to show the idea of InterNet phonecalls. The author of CB.app probaply had the same
idea a few month's later... So NeXT is propably THE platform for doing interphony (like
http ).
Actually a few persons (2) mailed me in the last month about writing such an application..
..we'll see.
Jolly
Post scriptum : source or binaries on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/...
Post post scriptum : Does anybody knows anything about the leagal issue about first
having the name InterPhone in an application ? :v)
---
stay cool - jolly
===================================================================
Jolly alias Patrick Stein jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de
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" It's the lonleyness that's the killer " - seal
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar Systems)
Subject: Re: Page break in Edit.app?
References: <1995Apr16.115501.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Organization: Cedar Systems
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 17:44:49 +0000
Message-ID: <798140689snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <1995Apr16.115501.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
> Is there anyway to put a page break in a document via Edit.app? If not, is
> there some way I might add one to an rtf document using formatting codes in
> another editor (like emacs or vi)?
>
A quick and dirty way is to bring up Edit's Preferences panel, switch to
Temporary Settings, and change the Rich Text Options to 'Ignore Rich Text
Format'. Now open the rtf document, and insert a \page directive at the
appropriate place.
Paul.
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Interphone on NeXT?
Date: 17 Apr 1995 19:51:49 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mugsl$a3e@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
References: <3mte3a$d97@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
I have tried using InterPhone (the PD NeXT app) from my 14.4 SLIP line to
both well-connected folks and other home users. Sound does get through,
in 0.1-second bursts, but the connection soon falls behind and then it
gets ugly. Sometimes you have to let it croak incomprehensibly at you
for several seconds after attempting to exit normally.
There is a command-line sound compression utility, toast/untoast/tcat,
which Denise Howard recently added to Opener.app at my request. This is
what they were using for Internet Talk Radio: on 25 MHz black hardware
it compresses .snd files down to 12-16% of their original size, and both
compression and decompression run slightly better than realtime. This
is a lossy algorithm, but I can barely hear the difference, and the
source is all available.
It seems to me that someone clever could combine InterPhone with toast,
and get a 14.4-friendly phone gadget.
In France the banknotes |====================================================
fall apart, but you can't | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
tear the toilet paper. |====================================================
From: jtodd@ss1.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Interphone on NeXT?
Date: 17 Apr 1995 22:25:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Express
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mupsb$2cs@news3.digex.net>
References: <3mte3a$d97@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
p7002bs@hp21.lrz-muenchen.de wrote:
: Hi all !
: Have you heard of Interphone the Internet phone solution of Vocaltec (www.vocaltec.com) for PCs with a sound card ? It lets you phone through TCP/IP to other users with Interphone.
: Do you think something like this is possible on the next. Porting the application, etc. Do you know of any application that exists to communicate with Interphone ???
: Please let me know what you think !!!
: Thanks,
: Marc
: _______________________________________________________
: Marc Haberland
: Am Bogen 13
: 85521 Ottobrunn
: Germany
: Tel. ++49 89 6090917
: p7002bs@hpmail.lrz-muenchen.de
There's an older app called Phone.app which serves this purpose, but you'll
need at LEAST a 56k line to make it work with any reasonable speed. A T1 or
Ethernet would be better to make it work properly. It (apparently) just
pipes the input from the microphone to the speaker of a remote location, and
vice versa.
--
John Todd - Field Sales/Technical Entropy Supervisor - jtodd@digex.net
Digital Express Internet Providers - 1-800-969-9090 x5167 = sales info
From: steveh@wwa.com (Steve Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and disk space problems...
Date: 18 Apr 1995 03:19:18 GMT
Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicagoland Internet Services
Message-ID: <3mvb3m$5ql@news.wwa.com>
References: <3mmrla$cno@bertie.pixar.com>
In article <3mmrla$cno@bertie.pixar.com> Damir Frkovic <damir@pixar.com>
writes:
> Anybody out there experience this problem with OmniWeb...
>
> OmniWeb loads images into a temporary scratch dir before it
> displays them with OmniImagefilter... durring a long session
> the amount of stuff in that temp dir can realy add up and eat
> up a ton of space... When I quit OmniWeb it deletes those
> files... BUT it doesn't free up the space on the disk!
> Only if I reboot the machine does the disk space actually come
> back.
>
> Any thoughts?... Do I have something set wrong?... What?
I sent them a suggestion to add a flush button for
just this sort of thing. Similar to Mosaic "Flush Image Cache".
We'll see if they like the idea in a future release.
From: a05i@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Kai Fuhrmeister)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mSQL 1.05 Adaptor at ftp.cs.orst.edu
Date: 18 Apr 1995 15:31:47 GMT
Organization: Zentrum fuer Netze, Universitaet Bremen
Message-ID: <3n0m13$mef@gina.zfn.uni-bremen.de>
References: <3lp1th$5kn@news1.WING.NET>
David Sinclair (circe@id.wing.net) wrote:
: I am still having problems with this adaptor :-( Thanks to those who
: sent me the suggestion that I add the TestBase to the ACL file; I did
: tis, but still get the "Unable to load MSQLAdaptor" error. In my console
: log, there is the error:
: Apr 3 10:36:33 celeste DBModeler[372]: Error loading
: /LocalLibrary/Adaptors/MSQLAdaptor.adaptor/MSQLAdaptor
: Apr 3 10:36:33 celeste DBModeler[372]: rld(): Undefined symbols:
: ...so apparently, either the adaptor lacks some needed routines, or I am
: for some reason not running with some needed module loaded. Anyone have
: any ideas? mSQL is working great, and I'd love to be able to use the
: DBKit with it!
I have the same problem with the mSQL-Adaptor. This occurs only on black
hardware. If you start the DBModeler from a shell, you get the informations
about the missing routines: the whole msql-lib! Then, by using "nm" with
"-arch i486" and "-arch m68k", you find that the i486-symbols are defined,
the m68k-symbols are not! I think, the author has compiled the msql-lib
non-MAB and linked it to an MAB-msql-Adaptor.
I hope, the author reads this and fixes it. Thanx!
---
Kai
-------------------------------------
Kai Fuhrmeister email: a05i@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: root@ideal.muc.de
Subject: Posting from NewsGrazer via cnews ends in dead.article since I installed Taylor 1.5
Message-ID: <1995Apr17.180518.3849@ideal.muc.de>
Sender: me@ideal.muc.de (Klaus Bscheid)
Organization: Eversmile
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 18:05:18 GMT
Hi everybody
Since I installed Taylor UUCP 1.5 I couldn't post from my acount anymore.
Posting from root acount works normal.
I have debuged inews an I found out that relaynews come back with a status of 1, but I
couldn't find out why this happend.
I use cNews and flat files.
Maybe someone has an idea what I can do.
thanks
-klaus
--
____________________________________________________________
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Klaus Bscheid, Bluetenstr. 12, 80799 Muenchen, (Germany)
____________________________________________________________
From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IconBuilder with transparent background
Date: 18 Apr 95 10:03:57 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Message-ID: <1995Apr18.100357@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
Hi,
This must be something very dumb, but after lot's of trying I
still couldn't find it. What I want is to create some icons
with a transparent background using IconBuilder. But all I get
is a plain white background. I tried already "alpha on" in the
color inspector, but no luck.
Any suggestions....
Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
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From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Informal test of three Word Processors (LONG)
Date: 18 Apr 1995 07:19:46 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3mvp6i$au8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Hi:
Being the proud owner of WriteUp, OpenWrite, and Microsoft Word
(under Executor). I decided to conduct my own informal test to
compare the speeds of these three word processors. I also
performed the test on Edit, but Edit has very low overhead
compared to a true Word Processor. In any case, here is the
description of the test and the results. These are quite
informal, please take them with a little grain of salt:
Hardware setup:
NeXTStation Color 25 MHz 32MB RAM, 1GIG internal, 500MB External
All Apps running from external disk.
Color monitor 17inch. FIMI. 16bit color.
Microsoft Word operating in B&W.
Software
NeXTSTEP 3.3 USER
Edit Release 3.0 (v88)
WriteUp v. 1.1
OpenWrite v. 1.1 Beta 2 - 1
Microsoft Word 5.1a under Executor 1.3e
All other applications not tested were turned off. Workspace
was hidden while test is being conducted.
----------------------------------------------
Less is better
Applications ranked from fastest to slowest.
Test One: Launch
Double-click and time until a new empty document is created and
the wheel stops spinning
seconds
1. Edit 8*
2. WriteUp 12
3. Word 12
4. OpenWrite 16
* time includes manual new empty document command.
Test Two: Open 100K ASCII document.
seconds
1. Edit 3
2. Word 5
3. OpenWrite 16
4. WriteUp 75
Test Three: Replace 6819 occurences of the word "test"
with the word "TEST" in the 100K ASCII file.
seconds
1. Edit 30
2. OpenWrite 275
3. Word 370
4. WriteUp --- (interrupted after 600 seconds, not done yet)
Test Four: Scroll thru first page to top of second page
at 100% (window resized to show one full page). Same 100K
ASCII file.
seconds
1. Edit 6
2. OpenWrite 15
3. Word 15
4. WriteUp 26
RANKING SCORE
1. Edit 1.00
2. OpenWrite & Word 2.75
3. WriteUp 3.50
In general, OpenWrite and MSWord under Executor form a tie
while WriteUp ranks last.
Given the more advanced faetures of Word (footnotes or endnotes, table of
contents) and its robustness under Executor, I'm sticking with it until
OpenWrite matures. However, OpenWrite is looking very good. I especially
like it's Object embedding functionality with "Create". But, you can make
your own conclusions. Your results may vary!
Let me know if you perform similar comparisons.
I am in no way affiliated with any of the companies producing the software
mentioned in this message. I'm simply a satisifed customer of their
products.
Please don't flame me if you don't like my testing conditions or
conclusions, I'm not MacWorld :-)
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
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From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle 1.2 vs. pgp 2.6.2
Date: 17 Apr 1995 14:23:14 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3mttki$odh@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <3mmo7h$2qo@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <3mmo7h$2qo@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
> paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes:
> > I tried replacing the pgp 2.6 in CryptorBundle with 2.6.2, and
> > it causes Mail.app to die. Moving back to 2.6 works. Has anyone
> > else experienced this?
>
> There is some command-line option to PGP (the program) which
> CryptorBundle expects, and which doesn't exist in release 2.6.2.
> You'd have to change the source to PGP 2.6.2 to add that missing
> parameter.
This is the +legal_kludge parameter. What I did is go through the the
scripts in cryptor.bundle and remove reference to +legal_kludge, and used
emacs to edit the binaries to replace +legal_kludge (14 characters) with
the equivalent number of spaces (14 spaces) (I think there are 2
references) That way, the system call to pgp does not reference the no
longer supported parameter
--
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Mayo Foundation
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From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: PPP dial on demand?
Message-ID: <D7867K.FCt@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:54:56 GMT
Hello world!
I have missed the developmentsd lately. As I recall there was a
Japanese PPP version that does dial-on-demand, but with Japanese manuals.
And there was ppp-2.2 which does not dial on demand. ppp-2.3 is supposed
to do dial on demand. Does anybody know what the status of ppp-2.3 is?
Thanks,
--
G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL
From: daniels222@aol.com (DanielS222)
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Subject: cmsg cancel <3mprua$ksv@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
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From: marco@sente.epfl.ch (Marco Scheurer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Web browser with graphics for the NeXT??
Date: 18 Apr 1995 15:40:51 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
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References: <3mtu82$lso@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
In article <3mtu82$lso@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl
(Geert Jan van Oldenborgh) writes:
[...]
, Spiderwoman (ETH Lausanne, forgot the URL) and the
[...]
SpiderWoman is now at:
ftp://sente.epfl.ch/pub/software/SW/SpiderWoman.app.NIHS.tar.gz
For more information:
http://sente.epfl.ch/~swoman/
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From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Web browser with graphics for the NeXT??
Date: 18 Apr 1995 16:04:02 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
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References: <3mtu82$lso@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
In article <3mtu82$lso@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert
Jan van Oldenborgh) writes:
:Chadwick A. Dubuque (cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu) wrote:
:> In article <3meacm$q5a@bertie.pixar.com>,
:> >Is there a web browser for the NeXT out there somewhere that
:> >that displays graphics?... (that's NOT X based, ie. Mosaic)
:> >Any info would be most appreciated.
:> Nexus.app, the "original" WWW software, is available on
:> ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, I believe.
:
:for a bit more luxury, there are OmniWeb (see www.omnigroup.com or
:www.lighthouse.com), Spiderwoman (ETH Lausanne, forgot the URL) and the
:mysterious announcement of NetSurfer.
Wait for NetSurfer... It is pretty good.
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From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Page break in Edit.app?
Date: 18 Apr 1995 10:36:10 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Message-ID: <9504181529.AA07848@cantina.lanl.gov>
Paul, Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk, writes:
>> Is there anyway to put a page break in a document via Edit.app? If not, is
>> there some way I might add one to an rtf document using formatting codes in
>> another editor (like emacs or vi)?
>>
>A quick and dirty way is to bring up Edit's Preferences panel, switch to
>Temporary Settings, and change the Rich Text Options to 'Ignore Rich Text
>Format'. Now open the rtf document, and insert a \page directive at the
>appropriate place.
Doesn't seem to work for me. (Did you mean "/page" in the PS doc?)
Dick Silbar
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to get a demo copy of NS for SPARC station
Date: 17 Apr 1995 16:59:51 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <3mu6q7$hpn@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3l96u8$7f@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
In article <3l96u8$7f@jak.cosy.sbg.ac.at> tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin
Michlmayr) writes:
> Software Group Acct (aslsoft@aslgate) wrote:
> / I am looking for a demo copy of NEXTSTEP os for Sun
> / Sparc Station, does any of you know where I should look for?
> / (Even a beta release will do it!) Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Well, That is not so easy. For example you could purchase a beta version
> of OS/2, but NeXT only sells final versions.
NOT true. NeXT has very good beta program! Check your sources ;-)
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387524
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar Systems)
Subject: Re: Page break in Edit.app?
References: <9504181529.AA07848@cantina.lanl.gov>
Organization: Cedar Systems
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:37:36 +0000
Message-ID: <798230256snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <9504181529.AA07848@cantina.lanl.gov>
silbar@cantina.lanl.gov "Dick Silbar" writes:
>
> >> Is there anyway to put a page break in a document via Edit.app? If not, is
>
> >> there some way I might add one to an rtf document using formatting codes in
>
> >> another editor (like emacs or vi)?
> >>
>
> >A quick and dirty way is to bring up Edit's Preferences panel, switch to
> >Temporary Settings, and change the Rich Text Options to 'Ignore Rich Text
> >Format'. Now open the rtf document, and insert a \page directive at the
> >appropriate place.
>
> Doesn't seem to work for me. (Did you mean "/page" in the PS doc?)
>
> Dick Silbar
>
There may be some confusion here. If you are trying to get Edit.app to
respect page breaks, it won't - it's an editor not a word processor, and
treats \page directives as carriage returns.
You can, however, use Edit in this way to add a directive that any rtf
reading word processors will respect.
Regards,
Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca (Will Gilbert)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and disk space problems...
Message-ID: <D78nIJ.Mp1@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3mvb3m$5ql@news.wwa.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 16:08:43 GMT
Steve Hoffman writes
> In article <3mmrla$cno@bertie.pixar.com> Damir Frkovic
<damir@pixar.com>
> writes:
> > Anybody out there experience this problem with OmniWeb...
> >
> > OmniWeb loads images into a temporary scratch dir before it
> > displays them with OmniImagefilter... durring a long session
> > the amount of stuff in that temp dir can realy add up and eat
> > up a ton of space... When I quit OmniWeb it deletes those
> > files... BUT it doesn't free up the space on the disk!
> > Only if I reboot the machine does the disk space actually come
> > back.
>
> I sent them a suggestion to add a flush button for
> just this sort of thing. Similar to Mosaic "Flush Image Cache".
This will not solve the problem. As Damir Frkovic said, quitting
OmniWeb does not free up all the space. Is there a memory leak
somewhere?
--
********************************************************
Will Gilbert, Pure Math Dept, Univ of Waterloo, Canada
http://math.uwaterloo.ca/~wgilbert/
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Base64 encoder/decoder for NeXT?
Message-ID: <westesD78tHC.8t7@netcom.com>
Organization: U.S. Computer
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:17:35 GMT
Sender: westes@netcom3.netcom.com
Can someone point me to a good base64 encoder/decoder for NeXT?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: herding@cs.tu-berlin.de (Bernd Herding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.users,comp.infosystems.miscwwwmis
Subject: Re: running httpd on NeXT (intel)
Date: 19 Apr 1995 07:29:07 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3n2e43$25u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
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tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer) writes:
>Hi,
>I've gotten the NCSA httpd package from the archives, but can't seem to
>get it running correctly. At first I thought the problem was that I didn't
>have the domain set on my machine, so I set it to 'il.us'. The daemon
>starts:
>sparkalepsy:20# !ps
>ps -axuww | grep http
>root 299 1.4 0.5 1.66M 200K p2 S 0:00 grep http
>root 297 0.0 0.7 2.93M 256K p2 S 0:00 ./httpServer
>but when I try and connect to it, I get the "Can't locate remote host
>sparkalespy.il.us'. This happens whether or not I've got my SLIP
>connection running or not. I've also tried changing the ports, but that
>didn't seem to help either.
Hi Tom!
I'm not quite sure (because I got no NeXT around at the moment), but I could
imagine that your Viewer (presumably OmniWeb) does not work on NetInfo. I
remember a similar problem with Mosaic and NIS. Mosaic seems to catch info
from /etc/hosts and/or DNS, but not from NIS (could it?). At home, I got
the server working (on my NeXT), connecting to it from a Linux-box resolving
via /etc/hosts.
Perhaps? ;-)
Bernd
From: jchaffee@reis2.alleg.edu (Jim Chaffee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Russian Typing
Date: 18 Apr 1995 18:28:38 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <3n10cm$rla@mustang.alleg.edu>
I have a small problem here at Allegheny College. We have just finished
giving all 140 of our faculty computers running NEXTSTEP and each of them
have different needs. One such faculty member is trying to find a way to
make everything she does show up in correct Russian type. I have tried
changing to Cyrillic Font and it looks okay but it doesn't change the
letters correctly. She also cannot type all the Russian letter because we
have only 26 and they have 33.
Can anyone give me any suggestions as to what Font or language I might try
on the NeXT to make her happy.
Thanks
Jim :-)
--
Jim Chaffee, Educational Support Specialist
Educational Computing Services
Allegheny College, Meadville, PA 16335
(814)332-2755
E-Mail: jchaffee@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: Informal test of three Word Processors (LONG)
Message-ID: <D78u4o.2o6@bldrdoc.gov>
Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
References: <3mvp6i$au8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:31:35 GMT
Wassim M. Jabi writes
..
> RANKING SCORE
>
> 1. Edit 1.00
> 2. OpenWrite & Word 2.75
> 3. WriteUp 3.50
>
> Given the more advanced faetures of Word (footnotes or endnotes, table of
> contents) and its robustness under Executor, I'm sticking with it until
> OpenWrite matures. However, OpenWrite is looking very good. I especially
> like it's Object embedding functionality with "Create". But, you can make
> your own conclusions. Your results may vary!
Very nice post Wassim.
I don't use Executor or anything sold my Mickeysoft, but I do use OpenWrite
extensively and with TONS of equations and embedded graphics. For this
type of stuff it is *great*. I tried out Word for Windows on a PC
(I admit it, I own both, but my supervisor bought them!) and
would have to say that Equation Builder is orders of magnitude better than
the equation editor in WFW.
OpenWrite is not quite a "mature" piece yet, but I believe it's currently
the best word processor for Nextstep (I also have Word Perfect for NS -
YUCK!!). Good work Xanthus.
-E
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: QUESTION: sound player for .au or .wav? (from stdin?)
Date: 18 Apr 1995 20:12:43 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznf7zvyr9nxh_-_@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3mm2hj$9c2@iitmax.acc.iit.edu>
In-reply-to: yong@iitmax.acc.iit.edu's message of 14 Apr 1995 09:57:55 -0500
To: yong@iitmax.acc.iit.edu (Yong Yoo)
<yong@iitmax.acc.iit.edu> writes:
>Hi, I was wondering if there is a program that will let me play .au or .wav
>files in Intel NeXT machine.
I'd like to know how I can play a snd via stdin. ie. through pipe to
sndplay?
--
"Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: schwabb@cse.fau.edu (=Bryan Schwab=)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next 2.0 on Cube - Wont boot into NextSTep- Help!
Date: 18 Apr 1995 22:17:18 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Message-ID: <3n1dpe$8m4@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Hello,
I have a NeXT cube and it seems that it will boot into multiuser mode
on the console, but it wont boot up in the graphical mode. What files
am I missing? Do i need to include something in the rc script? Any
help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
**************************************************************
* Bryan Schwab * "Nothing can hurt me, *
* schwabb@sunrise.cse.fau.edu * Nothing can stop me now" *
* Florida Atlantic University * -Nine Inch Nails *
**************************************************************
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**************************************************************
* Bryan Schwab * "Nothing can hurt me, *
* schwabb@sunrise.cse.fau.edu * Nothing can stop me now" *
* Florida Atlantic University * -Nine Inch Nails *
From: wli@linus (Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WTB: NeXTStep 3.2 academic bundle
Date: 18 Apr 1995 20:58:22 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock
Message-ID: <3n195e$7h5@news.ualr.edu>
I would like to get a NeXTStep 3.2 academic bundle for a
NeXTStation. Thanks.
-wei,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle 1.2 vs. pgp 2.6.2
Message-ID: <1995Apr18.185337.1209@gamelan.shnet.org>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <3mmo7h$2qo@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:53:37 GMT
In article <3mmo7h$2qo@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance
A. Drosehn) writes:
> paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes:
> > I tried replacing the pgp 2.6 in CryptorBundle with 2.6.2, and
> > it causes Mail.app to die. Moving back to 2.6 works. Has anyone
> > else experienced this?
>
> There is some command-line option to PGP (the program) which
> CryptorBundle expects, and which doesn't exist in release 2.6.2.
> You'd have to change the source to PGP 2.6.2 to add that missing
> parameter. You don't have to *do* anything with it, I think,
> but you do need to recognize it (the 2.6.2 version exits with an
> error if you specify the obsolete parameter, I guess).
>
> I'd be more specific, but it seems that I didn't keep the article
> that described the problem and the fix to it...
You can hack away all references to 'legal_kludge' in all scripts and the
binary (cryptor). The binary must me carefully edited, inserting blanks
at the relevant places. You can do that with Edit or emacs.
The 'legal_kludge' hack in PGP2.6 made PGP backwards compatible with
older versions. If you remove it, people with PGP2.3 or earlier versions
of CryptorBundle cannot read your mails anymore. So you should know what
you do.
BTW: Are there any significant advantages with PGP-2.6.2 ? For the next
release of the bundle, do you want this pgp-version ?
--
----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.shnet.org -----
C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can SoftPC 4.0 handle BC4.5 and/or Delphi?
Date: 18 Apr 1995 23:35:55 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3n1icr$smi@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <D793GM.5Ep@RnA.NL>
There is no SoftPC 4.0 out, so this cannot be answered to the best of my
knowledge.
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance (ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu)
AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: Can SoftPC 4.0 handle BC4.5 and/or Delphi?
Message-ID: <D793GM.5Ep@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:53:10 GMT
Just curious. SoftPC at some point couldn't handle BC3 (Borland C++ 3.0) so I
wondered if a NS 3.3 + SoftPC 4.0 env would handle a BC 4.5 and/or Delphi
development env.
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: Velanche Lashawn Stewart <vstewart@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FOR THE VISUALLY-IMPAIRED
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:27:47 -0700
Organization: Cal Poly State University
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950418192230.200361B-100000@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu>
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NNTP-Posting-User: vstewart
I have seen NeXT a few years ago, and I was wowed by it. The only
shortfall is that I'm not ertain if there is a software available that
will magnify the screen for thos of us with low vision.
I am contemplating on acquring NeXTStep (the academic version) to install
on a new laptop that I'll be getting soon. I'd appreciate it if anyone
with any knowledge of a screen magnification software for NeXT would let
me know of this. I'll be grateful if indeed that void is filled.
Also, can someone inform me of the features that would be left out of the
academic version that is on the full version of NeXTStep?
Thanks in advance...please respond via my e-mail address.
Velanche Stewart
V E L A N C H E
*E-mail: vstewart@oboe.calpoly.edu
vstewart@cris.com
*World Wide Web: http://www.calpoly.edu/~vstewart
*California Polytechnic State University
San Luis Obispo, California
From: tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.users,comp.infosystems.miscwwwmis
Subject: running httpd on NeXT (intel)
Date: 19 Apr 1995 03:26:03 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <3n1vsb$6ls@News1.mcs.com>
Hi,
I've gotten the NCSA httpd package from the archives, but can't seem to
get it running correctly. At first I thought the problem was that I didn't
have the domain set on my machine, so I set it to 'il.us'. The daemon
starts:
sparkalepsy:20# !ps
ps -axuww | grep http
root 299 1.4 0.5 1.66M 200K p2 S 0:00 grep http
root 297 0.0 0.7 2.93M 256K p2 S 0:00 ./httpServer
but when I try and connect to it, I get the "Can't locate remote host
sparkalespy.il.us'. This happens whether or not I've got my SLIP
connection running or not. I've also tried changing the ports, but that
didn't seem to help either.
anyone got any ideas ??
thanks,
-tom
tmeyer@mcs.com
tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com
From: jbn@mystery-train (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Frame v3.2 for NEXTSTEP -- no upgrade fee necessary
Date: 19 Apr 1995 03:26:00 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.,
Message-ID: <3n1vs8$aag@sparkle.soltec.com>
Summary: Save yourself hundreds if you have a valid FrameMaker code for NS' FrameMaker
If you have a previous version of FrameMaker with a legitamate license
number (such as v3.0), all you need to do is type in the new license
code for v3.2 and go. Neither Omni nor Lighthouse thought ahead
enough to require a new license code for the upgrade Lighthouse
charges hundreds for.
The new version is hardly worth upgrading to anyhow, after running it
in demo mode with some documents I made with a previously purchased
FrameMaker for NS, v3.2 seems to have the same bugs and very little to
justify the huge upgrade pricetag.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: nyacg@iglou.com (Robert E Tucker)
Subject: Frame Maker info
Message-ID: <nyacg-1804951351180001@dyn018.slip.iglou.com>
Sender: news@iglou.com (USENET News Administrator)
Organization: IgLou Internet Services
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:51:20 GMT
I just purchased a Black box and I have a new Frame Maker for NeXTStep
license(1 seat), I have the program and all the documentation. Has anyone
used this and liked/hated it? I'm just trying to figure out whether to
keep it or to try to sell it. Please E-mail to nyacg@iglou.com.
ANY help would be much appreciated.
--
Robert E Tucker Jr.
nyacg@iglou.com TANSTAAFL
From: bchin@nikita (Bill Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can SoftPC 4.0 handle BC4.5 and/or Delphi?
Date: 19 Apr 1995 05:36:56 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3n27ho$gvd@clarknet.clark.net>
References: <D793GM.5Ep@RnA.NL> <3n1icr$smi@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
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ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) wrote:
>There is no SoftPC 4.0 out, so this cannot be answered to the
>best of my knowledge.
Hmmm... the box clearly says SoftPC 4.0. It's been out for months and
months, before NS 3.3 shipped, which is probably why it seems to have
some problems with 8 bit color (on a Versa). From the addendum, the
changes are:
* Addition of a pseudo-enhanced mode to run many Windows apps
that require enhanced mode like PageMaker 5.0,
Lotus Improv 2.1 and others.
* Winsock TCP/IP interface included.
* Extended memory limit was raised from 16mb to 32mb.
* Improved Netware performance (takes advantage of kernel patch
for 3.2 and the fixes are in 3.3)
As for BC4.5 and/or Delphi, I don't do that.
..Bill
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Web browser with graphics for the NeXT??
Date: 19 Apr 1995 05:33:57 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.,
Message-ID: <3n27c5$b40@sparkle.soltec.com>
References: <3mtu82$lso@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> <3n0nti$agh@digdug.pencom.com>
robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) writes:
>Wait for NetSurfer... It is pretty good.
Definately wait for Netsurfer. It has more to offer than other
web-only browsers because it also has a nicer FTP front-end and
nicer overall Internet interface.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tom@icgned.nl (Tom Hageman)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and disk space problems...
Message-ID: <D79w20.AF4@icgned.nl>
Sender: news@icgned.nl
Organization: IC Group
References: <D78nIJ.Mp1@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 08:10:48 GMT
In article <D78nIJ.Mp1@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca (Will
Gilbert) writes:
> Steve Hoffman writes
> > In article <3mmrla$cno@bertie.pixar.com> Damir Frkovic
> <damir@pixar.com>
> > writes:
> > > Anybody out there experience this problem with OmniWeb...
> > >
> > > OmniWeb loads images into a temporary scratch dir before it
> > > displays them with OmniImagefilter... durring a long session
> > > the amount of stuff in that temp dir can realy add up and eat
> > > up a ton of space... When I quit OmniWeb it deletes those
> > > files... BUT it doesn't free up the space on the disk!
> > > Only if I reboot the machine does the disk space actually come
> > > back.
> >
> > I sent them a suggestion to add a flush button for
> > just this sort of thing. Similar to Mosaic "Flush Image Cache".
>
> This will not solve the problem. As Damir Frkovic said, quitting
> OmniWeb does not free up all the space. Is there a memory leak
> somewhere?
Apparently OmniWeb keeps a copy of all the images it ever displayed in memory.
So after a (short) while these end up on disk in the swapfile. And the
swapfile never shrinks until you reboot. (Well, okay, hardly ever. I don't
want to rekindle the endless swapfile thread ;-)
---
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__/__/__/ "...to baldly go where no one has gone before."
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From: un7j@rzstud2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with Printer Queue
Date: 19 Apr 1995 09:53:48 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Message-ID: <3n2mjc$r05@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi out there!
I do have a problem in an mixed unix network with an NextStep 3.3 intel station
- I want it to print via another Unix host. Therefore, I set it up according to
the Admin-Manual (the other Unix host is not configured via NetInfo). When I
start a test print via the PrintManager, everything works fine. However, all
the print jobs from within applications just get lost... :-((((
Please help!
Thanx!
Cu
-JF-
--
Hans-Joerg Fischer +++ eMail un7j@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
From: Velanche Lashawn Stewart <vstewart@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WTB: NeXTStep 3.2 academic bundle
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 19:19:12 -0700
Organization: Cal Poly State University
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950418191806.200361A-100000@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu>
References: <3n195e$7h5@news.ualr.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
NNTP-Posting-User: vstewart
In-Reply-To: <3n195e$7h5@news.ualr.edu>
On 18 Apr 1995, Wei Li wrote:
> I would like to get a NeXTStep 3.2 academic bundle for a
> NeXTStation. Thanks.
>
> -wei,
I am currently tinkering around all of my options--but can someone let me
know as to the cost of that as well (the academic version). Thanks!
Velanche Stewart
From: Gerd Gueldenpfennig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame v3.2 for NEXTSTEP -- no upgrade fee necessary
Date: 19 Apr 1995 06:01:05 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <3n28v1$gm@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <3n1vs8$aag@sparkle.soltec.com>
J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes
> If you have a previous version of FrameMaker with a legitamate license
> number (such as v3.0), all you need to do is type in the new license
> code for v3.2 and go. Neither Omni nor Lighthouse thought ahead
> enough to require a new license code for the upgrade Lighthouse
> charges hundreds for.
>
> The new version is hardly worth upgrading to anyhow, after running it
> in demo mode with some documents I made with a previously purchased
> FrameMaker for NS, v3.2 seems to have the same bugs and very little to
> justify the huge upgrade pricetag.
Great! More such silly postings and we will never see Frame 5 on NEXTSTEP
!!!
It is worth the price because its triple-fat and one of the best piece of
software for NEXTSTEP.
I have a good idea: You will do the Frame 5 port for nothing and we like
to use best and cheap software.
Why the hell there are such a lot people around do not want to pay for
good work? Its the same discussion as NEXTSTEP for nothing....
I will take a seat with Mike Paquette under his bridge, developing free
software.....
---
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig +
+ iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH +
+ Daimlerstrasse 3 76275 Ettlingen Germany + <== New !
+ Phone ++49 7243 3775-0 Fax ++49 7243 3775-77 + <== New !
+ Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ QMSprint - Network Printing for NEXTSTEP +
+ MERCATOR - GIS and Desktop Mapping for NEXTSTEP+
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: martin@jeramy.westfalen.de (Martin Roggon)
Subject: newsreader ?!?
Message-ID: <1995Apr19.173913.5569@jeramy.westfalen.de>
Sender: martin@jeramy.westfalen.de
Organization: Martin's NeXTcube, 59387 Ascheberg, Germany
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 17:39:13 GMT
Hi, is there a good an news
newsreader out there ?
No ... please NO NewsGrazer !!!
Any other will do !
Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: SoftPC help!
Message-ID: <D7A871.C2@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1995Apr17.152317.27830@leo.vsla.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:33:00 GMT
In article <1995Apr17.152317.27830@leo.vsla.edu> lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette A. Williams)
writes:
>
> Hi!
> I'm responsible for setting up a machine for a new user, and
> I've run into some difficulty. :) I'm running SoftPC 4.0 on
> my Next (Intel-based). I have to be able to run a piece of
> software called Business Session to attach to the company's
> HP3000 minicomputer.
>
> For some reason, the software isn't "finding" the serial port
> (which is where my hard connection to the HP is connected...).
> I think it has something to do with NeXT and the serial port,
> but I'm not sure. I could use some help... :)
>
> And before someone asks why I don't just use Terminal to
> attach, I need to have something called "block mode" to do work
> on the HP. <shrug> Requirement of the user's job...
>
> Anyone else using something like this? :)
I do not know what 'block mode' means, but ...
Why not change the behaviour of /dev/cuf?{a,b} to use block mode?
You may try stty, ioctl and 'tty - general terminal interface' man pages. Worst case, you need to
write a simple program which opens the device-file and ioctl's the file descriptor to desired
settings. The ioctl man page gives a good enough general idea of such a program.
Hope this works. Juergen
---
Fon ++49 511 4406-88 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49 511 4406-17
== What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
== when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
From: anomaly@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Adrian Silveanu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: A couple of questions.....
Date: 19 Apr 1995 03:38:04 -0500
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3n2i5c$580@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
Hello,
I have a few questions that I hope somebody can answer.
I am running NeXTStep v3.2 for Intel and I have two IDE hard drives.
The first hard drive has a NeXTStep partition and a HPFS (OS/2) partition.
The second hard drive has two HPFS partitions and a FAT partition.
Since NeXTStep cannot read HPFS partitions, but can read FAT partitions,
does anybody know how to get NeXTStep to recognize my one FAT partition?
Another annoying thing with NeXTStep is that every time I login
a dialog box appears saying that my hard disk is unreadable. Is there a way to
stop the dialog box from showing up, because I am never going to let it
initialize it.
Does anybody know if there is a way to use TIP with sz and rz?
Or can somebody please recommend a communication program that I can use with
a modem?
Thank you very much,
Adrian Silveanu
From: root@cnw (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SYM53c8 Driver for NCR SCSI
Date: 19 Apr 1995 18:19:06 GMT
Organization: Symbios Logic
Message-ID: <3n3k6q$k4d@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM>
As some of you may or may not know, the HABT division is now Symbios
Logic. I have been testing the PCI Driver and it is know in a
releaseable state. It performs very well an seems to only have a
couple of small bugs.
E-Mail me at root@cnw.ks.symbios.com
This is a NeXT 3.3 server that I am running.
Thomas Wells
Engineer
Symbios Logic
From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: New sendmail
Date: 19 Apr 1995 12:34:53 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3n301d$17v@xexos.xexos.com>
NeXTSTEP ships with older sendmails, something like 5.67 AIUI.
If I compile up a copy of sendmail 8.6.11 (latest version?) is it a plug in
replacement or do I need to write a new sendmail.cf?
(Currently linked to sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf)
-Paul-
--
Paul Civati FYI it's 'sivarty' ;-) Work: paul@xexos.com
Xexos Ltd http://www.xexos.com/ Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk
London UK
From: bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: circuit editor
Date: 19 Apr 1995 12:32:51 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3n2vtj$kj7@news.tuwien.ac.at>
I'm searching for a graphical editor for primitive electrical circuits
(R,L,C, OPV).
Thanks for any hint (please via email),
--Bernhard Mayr
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From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.users,comp.infosystems.miscwwwmis
Subject: Re: running httpd on NeXT (intel)
Date: 19 Apr 1995 11:37:14 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznf7y5cfysdm@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3n1vsb$6ls@News1.mcs.com> <3n2e43$25u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
In-reply-to: herding@cs.tu-berlin.de's message of 19 Apr 1995 07:29:07 GMT
To: herding@cs.tu-berlin.de (Bernd Herding)
<herding@cs.tu-berlin.de> writes:
>tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer) writes:
>>Hi,
>>I've gotten the NCSA httpd package from the archives, but can't seem to
>>get it running correctly. At first I thought the problem was that I didn't
>>have the domain set on my machine, so I set it to 'il.us'. The daemon
>>starts:
>>sparkalepsy:20# !ps
>>ps -axuww | grep http
>>root 299 1.4 0.5 1.66M 200K p2 S 0:00 grep http
>>root 297 0.0 0.7 2.93M 256K p2 S 0:00 ./httpServer
>>but when I try and connect to it, I get the "Can't locate remote host
>>sparkalespy.il.us'. This happens whether or not I've got my SLIP
>>connection running or not. I've also tried changing the ports, but that
>>didn't seem to help either.
>Hi Tom!
>I'm not quite sure (because I got no NeXT around at the moment), but I could
>imagine that your Viewer (presumably OmniWeb) does not work on NetInfo. I
>remember a similar problem with Mosaic and NIS. Mosaic seems to catch info
>from /etc/hosts and/or DNS, but not from NIS (could it?). At home, I got
>the server working (on my NeXT), connecting to it from a Linux-box resolving
>via /etc/hosts.
>Perhaps? ;-)
>Bernd
This is a typical mistake that people make. Unless the client software
uses it's _own_ API to access hosts information. Interoperability with
Netinfo is transparent because the underlying C system calls are
written to consult netinfo if it is running. The NIS/Mosaic problem
you refer to above is more likely to be related to the DNS/NIS issues
under SunOS.
Why are you setting the domain for your machine? If you are not using
NIS you shouldn't being using "domainname"
Perhaps you could enlighten us with the output from
cat /etc/hostconfig
nidump hosts /
--
"Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: dougm@akira (Douglas McClure)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Web browser with graphics for the NeXT??
Date: 19 Apr 1995 13:25:16 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Message-ID: <3n32vs$cqk@kelso.pprd.abbott.com>
References: <3n27c5$b40@sparkle.soltec.com>
In article <3n27c5$b40@sparkle.soltec.com> jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com
(J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) writes:
> >Wait for NetSurfer... It is pretty good.
>
> Definately wait for Netsurfer. It has more to offer than other
> web-only browsers because it also has a nicer FTP front-end and
> nicer overall Internet interface.
Well, that's a matter of opinion. I've played with NetSurfer some, and I
must say that it does look like a nice viewer. The FTP front-end is
definitely far and away the best. Light years ahead of the competition.
However, for pure viewing of HTML documents, I think OmniWeb still has it
beat. It displays the documents perfectly, with all the associated
justifications and such. Plus it uses much less screen space for the
input areas than NetSurfer does.
But like anything, it's a matter of opinion. There are pluses and minuses
in anything. At least all three offerings, OmniWeb, SpiderWoman, and
NetSurfer are all fairly capable products which good potential.
-d
From: asoto@wsc.com ( Andre L. Soto )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC help!
Date: 19 Apr 1995 13:47:58 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3n34ae$8o7@cerberus.wsc.com>
References: <1995Apr17.152317.27830@leo.vsla.edu>
In article <1995Apr17.152317.27830@leo.vsla.edu> lawillia@leo.vsla.edu
(Lucette A. Williams) writes:
>
> Hi!
> I'm responsible for setting up a machine for a new user, and
> I've run into some difficulty. :) I'm running SoftPC 4.0 on
> my Next (Intel-based). I have to be able to run a piece of
> software called Business Session to attach to the company's
> HP3000 minicomputer.
>
> For some reason, the software isn't "finding" the serial port
> (which is where my hard connection to the HP is connected...).
> I think it has something to do with NeXT and the serial port,
> but I'm not sure. I could use some help... :)
>
> And before someone asks why I don't just use Terminal to
> attach, I need to have something called "block mode" to do work
> on the HP. <shrug> Requirement of the user's job...
>
> Anyone else using something like this? :)
>
--
Unfortunately, because of NeXT's reluctancy to fix their serial drivers,
problems like this will continue to persist in your company as well as
mine. We have an HP 3000 that our users connect to via a serial line.
Although we are able to connect to our HP using Reflection in SoftPC,
characters in block mode are randomly dropped. This is a problem that
Insignia acknowledges but cannot do anything about it.
In the meantime, be sure that your serial (com) ports are set in SoftPC's
preferences and that your ttya line in /etc/ttys reads as follows:
ttya "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown off secure
This might, at least, help you to connect to your HP. Data transmission
between your PC and the HP is another story.
Andre L. Soto
asoto@wsc.com
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: using pop server....
Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:20:07 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3n3go7$a52@metro.atlanta.com>
I have pulled down the pop server s/w and have built and installed it on
NS 3.0 running on a slab. The pop server pulls mail from
/usr/spool/mail/<login>. Since Mail.app copies the user's mail from
/usr/spool/mail/<login> to Active.mbox, the pop server is not very useful,
unless you quit Mail.app prior to your mail delivery. What I would like
to do is for my mail at work to continue to be processed by Mail.app, and
then use pop to read my mail at home, i.e., the pop server would get the
mail from Active.mbox, not /usr/spool/mail. Is it as simple as changing
the directory that is defined in the pop server and rebuilding or is there
something else that needs to be done?
thanks
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul M Cardon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New sendmail
Date: 19 Apr 1995 14:18:34 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <3n363q$kq9@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <3n301d$17v@xexos.xexos.com>
Paul Civati (paul@xexos.com) wrote:
: NeXTSTEP ships with older sendmails, something like 5.67 AIUI.
Well, the version number is older, but for those worried about security, it
is not vulnerable to the attacks mentioned in any CERT advisories, assuming
you are running at least NEXTSTEP 3.2.
: If I compile up a copy of sendmail 8.6.11 (latest version?) is it a plug in
: replacement or do I need to write a new sendmail.cf?
The latest version is 8.6.12 (ftp://ftp.berkeley.cs.edu/ucb/sendmail).
You will need to create a new sendmail.cf. In order to do that, you will
need a newer version of the m4 program than the one supplied by NeXT. I
haven't checked to see if a newer version comes with NEXTSTEP 3.3 yet.
You can compile m4 for NEXTSTEP or just use the m4 available on another
OS such as HP-UX 9.X.
--
Paul M. Cardon
From: root@cnw (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCR Scsi driver? I have it....
Date: 19 Apr 1995 18:06:23 GMT
Organization: Symbios Logic
Message-ID: <3n3jev$k4d@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM>
References: <3m30s1$3vs@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> <3mb19u$1gv3@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
>(Jeff Wishnie) (jwishnie@gb.swissbank.com) wrote:
>> A colleague at work is looking for a driver for an NCR SCSI card.
Does
>> anyone know of such a thing? NeXTanswers makes no mention of it.
>Of course NeXTanswers doesn't! The whole Nextstep-on-i386 community
is
>waiting for such a beast. Next scheduled back the driver for Q2/95,
despite
>it was already planned for Q1.
I am one of the test engineers for the NCR PCI SCSI series driver.
There is a present driver that runs on 3.2 and 3.3 and IS NOT
supported by NeXT. Matter of fact, NeXT will not support any 3.2
driver. I, of course, have the driver. (It has tested as faster than
the AHA2940 overall.) If you are interested in the driver, e-mail me
and I will either get it to you or tell you where to get it.
Thomas Wells
Engineer
Symbios Logic, formerly NCR
From: oc@hukatronic.cz (Ondra Cada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Psion Link
Date: 19 Apr 1995 16:32:44 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9504192143.AA07677@ocs.hukatronic.cz>
References: <9504160843.AA03535@envirolink.org>
Hi all of you,
must say I'm surprised - and delighted as well - how many of you
are interested...
Well, just now is my application in early Alpha version. Seeing
such an interest I'll work hard to prepare final (or at least beta)
ASAP, omitting some luxury for the sake of time and scheduling it to
next version.
So, S3Link 1.0 _surely_ will
- be available before June (very probably before May, but this date
I cannot promise);
- allow file transfer to and from SIBO machines (almost surely
including MC line - I'll try to dig out some of these neat laptops
to test);
- support simple incremental backup;
- be somewhat about $20-$40 shareware;
and _probably_ will
- convert Word format to NeXT RTF and back;
- translate characters >128 via user defined table;
- support one-command backup/format/restore for Flash SSD
S3Link 1.0 _surely_ will _not_
- support reconnection (once connection broken, S3Link 1.0 must be
restarted);
- offer API to prepare custom applications which communicate with PSION;
- allow drag&drop file transfer;
- support remote printing from PSION on NEXTSTEP printer;
- ensure automatic sync of Data on PSION to Addresses on NS;
- auto convert any file type using installable bundle converters
(with public API to create these);
These (and other) features, including your suggestions, I would
like to include to S3Link 2.0, scheduled to sometimes about QIII
'95. I'm not sure still if it will be licensed or shareware (let's
see how shareware 1.0 will do).
I am looking forward email at <ocs@earn.cvut.cz> from those who
would like to beta test the application, and from those who would
like to localize it (original version will have English and Czech
.lprojs)
FYI, we are opening a big project here: Objective C based cross SDK
for PSIONs, featuring GUI resource editor, debugger with software
emulator and/or remote debugging facilities and so on. This project
is in _very_ early stage, and first working alpha won't occur before
'96.
--
Ondra Cada
ocs@earn.cvut.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
(please do not reply to hukatronic.cz)
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New sendmail
Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:33:03 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznf6zkbr3j5z@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3n301d$17v@xexos.xexos.com> <3n363q$kq9@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
In-reply-to: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu's message of 19 Apr 1995 14:18:34 GMT
To: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul M Cardon)
<pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
>Paul Civati (paul@xexos.com) wrote:
>: NeXTSTEP ships with older sendmails, something like 5.67 AIUI.
>Well, the version number is older, but for those worried about security, it
>is not vulnerable to the attacks mentioned in any CERT advisories, assuming
>you are running at least NEXTSTEP 3.2.
Then why did NeXT issue a patch for sendmail in 3.2?
>: If I compile up a copy of sendmail 8.6.11 (latest version?) is it a plug in
>: replacement or do I need to write a new sendmail.cf?
You'd be better to. I use the following .mc file which put through m4
produce a .cf file
include(`../m4/cf.m4')
VERSIONID(`@(#)clientproto.mc 8.2 (Berkeley) 8/21/93')
OSTYPE(nextstep)dnl
Opnoreceipts
Orident=0
MAILER(smtp)
define(`LOCAL_MAILER_PATH',/usr/local/bin/procmail)dnl
define(`LOCAL_MAILER_FLAGS',uShPfrmn)dnl
define(`LOCAL_MAILER_ARGS',/usr/local/bin/procmail -a $h -d $u)dnl
FEATURE(nodns)dnl
define(`SMART_HOST',smtp:mailhost.dircon.co.uk)dnl
define(`confMESSAGE_TIMEOUT', `5d')
Cw=steffi localhost
>The latest version is 8.6.12 (ftp://ftp.berkeley.cs.edu/ucb/sendmail).
>You will need to create a new sendmail.cf. In order to do that, you will
>need a newer version of the m4 program than the one supplied by NeXT. I
>haven't checked to see if a newer version comes with NEXTSTEP 3.3 yet.
>You can compile m4 for NEXTSTEP or just use the m4 available on another
>OS such as HP-UX 9.X.
I think I'm using gnu m4 here
--
"Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: michael@hesta2 (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Accounting Software
Date: 19 Apr 1995 19:00:29 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3n3mkd$355@corporate.hesta.com>
Did anyone ever develop a REALLY strong accounting program or suite?
Or are there any "components" of one available? I REALLY hate
building our system around DOS (yes that's right DOS not even WINDOWS)
based apps. We use MRI, a real estate oriented property management
and accounting package...and I can't get it to run safely inside SOFT
PC yet....Any suggestions would be appreciated.
From: ernie@bac-ground (Ernesto Baca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Video on NeXT Cube
Date: 20 Apr 1995 04:45:41 GMT
Organization: Internet Connect Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3n4otl$no7@degas.ICSI.Net>
Hi,
Is there a way to play video images on a NeXT Cube with a
NeXTDimension board but WITHOUT a color monitor?
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: SoftPC and Smalltalk/V
Message-ID: <D7BCvq.Lvz@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:11:50 GMT
Is anyone out there running Smalltalk/V for Windows (v2.0) under SoftPC
on white hardware?
How about WindowBuilder in it? Anyone try VisualSmalltalk (ST/V v3.0)?
I'm debating buying SoftPC 4.0, but if it won't run Smalltalk, it's
probably not worth it for me...
What about VisualBasic v3?
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
From: schwabb@cse.fau.edu (=Bryan Schwab=)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT - Release 2.0 Building Disks Help!
Date: 19 Apr 1995 21:58:38 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Message-ID: <3n412e$r8j@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Hello,
I have a NeXT Cube which has a SCSI disk and an optical drive. I want
to re-build the SCSI disk but the optical disk wont boot into next step.
Is there a script i can run off of the optical disk in single user mode
that is equivalent to running BuildDisk from nextstep???
Any help would be greatly appreciated....
-Bryan
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From: seanl@ringding.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: QUESTION: sound player for .au or .wav? (from stdin?)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 19 Apr 1995 21:53:02 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3n40nu$r5g@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <3mm2hj$9c2@iitmax.acc.iit.edu> <robertznf7zvyr9nxh_-_@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk) wrote:
>I'd like to know how I can play a snd via stdin. ie. through pipe to
>sndplay?
You can use sox to convert the sound, then pipe the sound into sndplay.
You can grab sox out of the app wrapper of GISO.app, available on the
archives. Good luck.
Sean Luke U Maryland at College Park
seanl@cs.umd.edu Today's Chemical: Aluminum Zirconium Tetrachlorohydrex GLY
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: bad magic number (not a Mach-0 file)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 20 Apr 1995 10:52:04 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3n5eck$h6h@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1995Apr12.192044.29125@nmt.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Eugene Aalto (aalto@nmt.edu) wrote:
: I am having trouble with a couple of different shareware apps. When I
: try to load a saved file or object, it is unable to do so, and gives me the
: following error in the console window...
: /LocalApps/Games/Solitaire/Klondike.solitaire/Klondike
: bad magic number (not a Mach-0 file)
: I have had this error with both solitaire.app and GA.app
: I am using a NextStation (25MHz '040) mono with NS 3.0
This is a problem with 3.0. 3.0 is not able to load
fat object files. Try to get a thin version.
--
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From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Replacement for ftpd?
Date: 19 Apr 1995 23:44:37 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <3n4795$f1j@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
I am sure there is a replacement for the ftpd on the NeXT available as source
somewhere, but archie failed to show me anything useful. Could someone tell
me a good location?
Thanks.
--
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Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://www.ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Message-ID: <1995Apr13.221146.7715@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3mc795$g10@sashimi.wwa.com> <3mjhcu$lcj@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 22:11:46 GMT
emstech@sound.music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician)
wrote:
>Steven M. Hoffman (steveh@sashimi.wwa.com) wrote:
>: Hi all. I'm sure this has been asked 1 zillion times,
>: but what can I use on a 3.2 black machine to read
>: news in a "newsgrazer" fashion? I don't think
>: Newsgrazer can be used anymore can it?
>: Sure I could use trn, but I'd like
>: to get the graphical eqivalent of trn (threads
>: are nice). It doesn't have to be free either.
>: Thanks to all who reply.
>: Steve Hoffman (steveh@wwa.com)
>Forget "newsgrazer" use "tin" .. doesn't have Next interface but it's
perfect!
>;-)
>--
>Alain Terriault, System Operator Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
>Music Faculty, Mcgill University Voice: (514) 398-4552
Try Alexandra.app
It's GUI and cool (I am posting this with Alexandra)
Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: bad magic number (not a Mach-0 file)
Message-ID: <1995Apr14.180031.9854@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <1995Apr12.192044.29125@nmt.edu>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 18:00:31 GMT
aalto@nmt.edu (Eugene Aalto) wrote:
>I am having trouble with a couple of different shareware apps. When I
>try to load a saved file or object, it is unable to do so, and gives
me the
>following error in the console window...
>/LocalApps/Games/Solitaire/Klondike.solitaire/Klondike
>bad magic number (not a Mach-0 file)
>I have had this error with both solitaire.app and GA.app
>I am using a NextStation (25MHz '040) mono with NS 3.0
>What does this error mean? What do i have to do to fix it?
>Please reply via email
>Eugene Aalto
>aalto@nmt.edu
In a terminal window type:
file /LocalApps/Games/Solitaire/Klondike.solitaire/Klondike
and check out the answer.
Hope that helps
Fabien
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From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SUMMMARY: IconBuilder transparent icons
Date: 20 Apr 95 09:28:55 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Message-ID: <1995Apr20.092855@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
SUMMARY
Few days ago I asked how to create icons with transparent background.
Well, thanks to lot's of people it wasn't that difficult, but the funny
thing is that without knowing I had solved it already myself. What
happened. When you save your icon as .dir.tiff it will appear in
Workspace. But when you change it and save it again, then even changing
directories and back is not enough to get the new version. To be 100%
sure you must delete the old .dir.tiff, check that you have the default
"folder" icon back and then save your IconBuilder icon again. OK, not a
big problem, but it leads to thinking that your changes don't have
effect.
Now here comes how to create transparent backgrounds using IconBuilder:
1. Select Format->Document Layout (or New document layout)
2. "Has alpha" must be checked
3. Open the color inspector
4. UNcheck "paint in overlay mode"
5. Choose any color (I took white)
6. Set Opacity to 0
7. Use Paintbucket to fill the whole icon
8. Now set Opacity back to 100
9. Draw the icon
What "Paint in overlay mode" does, is that when checked, it will use both
the alpha (opacity) of the existing pixel and the alpha selected in the
color inspector and combine both into a new color. When unchecked the
existing pixel will just be replaced with one using color and alpha as
selected in the inspector.
But don't forget to remove your icons first.
Willem
Thanks to:
From: Larry Blische <lkba!lkb@uunet.uu.net>
From: Christophe DORE <chris@aptime.fdn.org>
From: Tom Hageman <tom@icgned.nl>
From: Diederic Vlamings <diederic@icgned.nl>
From: "Dr. Klaus Kunze" <klaus@chemlab.unm.edu>
From: yann@dagobah.fdn.fr
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: newsreader ?!?
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:02:10 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950420120210.1195AACUL.malc@daneel>
References: <1995Apr19.173913.5569@jeramy.westfalen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Hi, is there a good an news newsreader out there ? No ... please
> NO NewsGrazer !!! Any other will do !
>
Eloquent is available commercially, for $175 or so, and gives you threaded
news (as well as a mail reader) for NeXT, Intel, HP and Sparc.
Take Three are also considering a User Group special: the app will be
available to User Groups for $50 a go for orders of 10+, but without support
etc, and the package is ftp-ed. Sounds like a bargain to me.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: video i(/o)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:14:28 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950420131428.1195AACUP.malc@daneel>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
What (UK-standard ?PAL?) video i(/o) solutions are available now for
NS/Intel?
We may have a need for something which would simulate a video-phone.
Ideally I'd also like to be able to write some very simple applications
including video clips, so something which included Classes similar to
NXLiveVideo would be good.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: marsella@athos.rutgers.edu (Stacy Marsella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: JollysZyXEL_Fax_Modem problem
Date: 20 Apr 1995 18:25:24 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University LCSR
Message-ID: <3n6n0k$qio@athos.rutgers.edu>
I just installed JollysZyXEL_Fax_Modem_Driver and tried to send some
faxes to test it out. It works fine on single page faxes but on faxes
longer thatn one page there is a persistent problem. On every page
after the cover and first page of document, the top half or so of the
page is deleted on the receiving end. So it appears to be some sort of
handshaking problem and in fact the ZyXEL's cts light starts to flash
during the transmission. But I tried both /dev/cua and /dev/cufa -
same problem. (I have no idea of how to slow down the driver which is
running at 19k). Before I start fooling with the ZyXEL's settings, are
there any suggestions? I would prefer getting this to work before I
send off the very reasonable shareware fee.
(note Jolly's Zyxel and class 2 fax drivers are available from
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/fax/)
Specifics:
Version 1.31 of Jolly's ZyXEL fax driver
3.2 Nextstep running on a Nextstation
Zyxel U-1496E Plus (rom version unknown)
Dialupip installed
marsella@cs.rutgers.edu
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need a Newsgrazer!
Date: 20 Apr 1995 14:38:10 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznf5z9iaadph@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <3mrjf8$naf@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
<1995Apr16.191542.4169@seer.demon.co.uk>
In-reply-to: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com's message of Sun, 16 Apr 1995 19:15:42 +0000
To: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
<Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> writes:
>In article <3mrjf8$naf@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
>Welch) writes:
>>
->Me like Newsgrazer Pro the best!
->
->__jayson
>>
>>Are you still working on this? If so, do you have a planned release
>date
>>and release price? Or, given that there is no email address in your
>>"from:" are you just making fun of us?
>Or are you willing to sell NewsGrazerPro and NoteBook to a company that is
>preapred to sell it in the NeXTSTEP market?
I believe he would be. For a price! :-)
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From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUMMMARY: IconBuilder transparent icons
Date: 20 Apr 1995 15:15:49 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Message-ID: <3n5tr5$jcv@adam.cc.sunysb.edu>
References: <1995Apr20.092855@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
In article <1995Apr20.092855@alpha.ntu.ac.sg> gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg
(WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG)) writes:
> SUMMARY
>
> Few days ago I asked how to create icons with transparent background.
[snip]
You know, all of this really is a lot simpler with IconMaker from Blue Sky
software. If you are into making icons (for your apps, for folders,
etc.), this really is the application of choice; and the newest version
has many very useful features for merging, moving and manipulating icons.
I don't work for BlueSky, I'm simply a satisfied customer. Greg Lindholm
created one very lovely tool. Bravo.
-Richard Larson
Dept. of Linguistcs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.frame
From: dimitri@duti609a.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Subject: Can FrameMaker 3.2 for NEXTSTEP print MIF or MML in batch?
Sender: news@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (TWI News Administration)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 11:50:10 GMT
Message-ID: <D7C0vn.M4z@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
Dear Net,
After asking this question to dealers and distributors of Frame in the
Netherlands, and having received no answer, just before I panic,
I turn to the Net.
The subject actually states it all. Is it possible to let FrameMaker
for NEXTSTEP print out a MIF or a MML file by either
a) starting it as a background process without UI with certain
switches
or
b) by starting it beforehand and message it via RPCs.
I also need to be able to specify the exact style to use.
I heard that for certain platforms APIs are available for this
purpose. However, no API seem to exist for the NEXTSTEP version. Can
anybody confirm whether this is true and whether there is no other way
to message FrameMaker? Are there or are there no Remote Procedures which
I can use in FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP?
As a last resort: if answers to my questions are 'NO', will there be a
4.0 release with an API for NEXTSTEP in the future?
Thanks in advance,
Dimitri
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+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
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From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: MBONE
Date: 21 Apr 1995 01:03:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3n708d$s8q@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3n5m8u$10m@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Keywords: video internet
Has MBONE (multicast video) been ported to NeXTSTEP?
Where can I get it?
Who's ported MBONE to non-X windows OS?
---
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mathematics and scientific simulations
distributed media
mail: Academic Software Development
Sweet Hall 415
Stanford University
Stanford CA 94305-3090
USA
telephone: 415/725-3152 (work,msg)
415/725-8240 (fax)
internet: xinwei@jessica.stanford.edu
nextmail: xinwei@otter.stanford.edu
www url: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~xinwei
map url: http://www-pcd.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/map/map.html?sweet+hall
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Talk Daemon Message: You don't exist; Go away!
Date: 21 Apr 1995 01:12:08 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n70p8$jj3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Can anyone please help me figure out why the talk daemon on my machine
is now refusing to initiate talk sessions. When I attempt to use
"talk", I get the error message "You don't exist. Go away." Talk has
worked fine on my NeXTstation for the past 3 years.
Earlier in the week, our system administrator inadvertently removed
my machine from the Stanford University DNS (Domain Name Server), and
it was unrecognizable by the rest of the world for 12 hours. Could
some file have been corrupted?
The mesg command says I can accept messages.
But I now get the following console error messages in response to
the "write" command:
Message from ???@mally on ttyp1 at 17:32 ...
test
EOF
The shell doesn't seem recognize me as zalta@mally.
Any help appreciated.
Thank you.
Ed
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Center for the Study of Language and Information
Stanford University
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Page break in Edit.app?
References: <1995Apr16.115501.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> <798140689snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:20:59 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Apr20.212059.5805@proximus.north.de>
In article <798140689snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>,
Cedar Systems <Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <1995Apr16.115501.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
>
>> Is there anyway to put a page break in a document via Edit.app? If not, is
>> there some way I might add one to an rtf document using formatting codes in
>> another editor (like emacs or vi)?
>>
>A quick and dirty way is to bring up Edit's Preferences panel, switch to
>Temporary Settings, and change the Rich Text Options to 'Ignore Rich Text
>Format'. Now open the rtf document, and insert a \page directive at the
>appropriate place.
Did you test that? For me it does not seem to work.
Gerhard.
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From: jadoroin@gloria.cord.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Can SoftPC 4.0 handle BC4.5 and/or Delphi?
Date: 20 Apr 1995 23:22:04 -0500
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Message-ID: <3n7btc$kbk@gloria.cord.edu>
References: <D793GM.5Ep@RnA.NL> <3n1icr$smi@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
In article <3n1icr$smi@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>,
Ivo Welch <ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu> wrote:
>
>There is no SoftPC 4.0 out, so this cannot be answered to the best of my
>knowledge.
There certainly is. I use SoftPC 4.0 quite often. I also run it under
NS 3.3. But I don't have BC4.5 so I wouldn't know if it works or not.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar Systems)
Subject: Re: Hebrew or Right-to-Left Word Processor?
References: <3n6iq8$jme@potogold.rmii.com>
Organization: Cedar Systems
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:00:52 +0000
Message-ID: <798454852snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3n6iq8$jme@potogold.rmii.com>
garrett@opensource.com "Garrett L. Rice" writes:
> A customer of mine is looking for a Hebrew wordprocess, or an editor that
> does right to left editing (which he can use his own fonts with). Anybody
> have any suggestions.
>
> --
> Garrett L. Rice
> OpenSource, Inc.
> 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
> 800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
> 303.861.2393 FAX
> garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
>
We have done extensive work in extending the functionality of the NeXT Text
object towards that of a full featured word processor. It could be possible
to extend our work to handle right to left editing, but it could end up being
quite expensive.
If your customer required many licenses, or there are other customers with the
same requirements, we may be able to provide a solution.
Paul Heffernan.
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Cedar Systems email: phef@cedar.demon.co.uk
telephone: +44 1242 239221
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From: oc@hukatronic.cz (Ondra Cada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Russian Typing
Date: 20 Apr 1995 15:50:00 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9504192351.AA07746@ocs.hukatronic.cz>
References: <3n10cm$rla@mustang.alleg.edu>
In comp.sys.next.software article <3n10cm$rla@mustang.alleg.edu>
Jim Chaffee wrote:
...
>One such faculty member is trying to find a way to
>make everything she does show up in correct Russian type. I have
tried
>changing to Cyrillic Font and it looks okay but it doesn't change the
>letters correctly
...
As far as I know, the NeXTencoding (shown in
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/GeneralRef/ApC_KeyboardEvents/KeyInfo.rtfd)
is _hardcoded_ in shared libraries. So, you can
- either use font which keeps character types and relations same as
in NeXTencoding (eg you can assign Russian lowercase 'i-o' to
NeXTencoding 'o grave' and uppercase 'I-O' to NeXTencoding 'O grave'
and so on - letters must be assign to letters, lowercase to
lowercase,...);
- or use any font and change NEXTSTEP's encoding appropriately.
This is _very_ complicated, as you must patch some shared libraries.
Then you simply use Keyboard.app to define Russian keyboard, and
select this keyboard and Cyrillic font in Preferences.
For the sake of simple Russian typing I would strongly recommend
the former solution - you need only to change encoding in Cyrillic
font, which is pretty simple.
Should you select the latter solution, I can offer you the
application which replaces NeXTencoding by another, user selectable
encoding (ie, which appropriately patches the shared libraries) - we
had to develop this to support Czech language. But, it is
definitely not a cheap solution; there is a lot of complicated
know-how behind, so this application could be available for $XXXX.
--
Ondra Cada
ocs@earn.cvut.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
(please do not reply to hukatronic.cz)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame v3.2 for NEXTSTEP -- no upgrade fee necessary
Date: 20 Apr 1995 19:59:45 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n6efh$afh@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <3n1vs8$aag@sparkle.soltec.com>
In article <3n1vs8$aag@sparkle.soltec.com> jbn@mystery-train (J.B.
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> If you have a previous version of FrameMaker with a legitamate license
> number (such as v3.0), all you need to do is type in the new license
> code for v3.2 and go. Neither Omni nor Lighthouse thought ahead
> enough to require a new license code for the upgrade Lighthouse
> charges hundreds for.
You would be stealing the software. It does not matter
what you think of the price (it's clearly high), you
either pay your money and use the software, or don't
use the software.
We felt the price for the upgrade was high, but worth
it since we had many frame files, and wished to move
forward with newer NEXTSTEP hardware.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Hebrew or Right-to-Left Word Processor?
Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:13:44 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3n6iq8$jme@potogold.rmii.com>
A customer of mine is looking for a Hebrew wordprocess, or an editor that
does right to left editing (which he can use his own fonts with). Anybody
have any suggestions.
--
Garrett L. Rice
OpenSource, Inc.
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
303.861.2393 FAX
garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: Barry Graham <bgraham@hsf.uab.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: (no subject)
Date: 20 Apr 1995 17:19:00 GMT
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Message-ID: <3n6524$8ai@maze.dpo.uab.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am trying to generate a color graph in Improv using presentation
builder. Is there a "dwrite" that will allow me to do this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Sorry if this is the wrong group to post to.
Barry Graham
Dod#1107
From: rainer@Riker (Rainer Frohnhöfer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: bad magic number (not a Mach-0 file)
Date: 21 Apr 1995 14:50:59 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3n8goj$86k@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <1995Apr12.192044.29125@nmt.edu> <3n5eck$h6h@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Axel Habermann (kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Eugene Aalto (aalto@nmt.edu) wrote:
: : I have had this error with both solitaire.app and GA.app
: : I am using a NextStation (25MHz '040) mono with NS 3.0
: This is a problem with 3.0. 3.0 is not able to load
: fat object files. Try to get a thin version.
One solution would be to get the "lipo" program that comes with NS later than
3.1. It works fine with 3.0. I thought there was even a copy on
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de but I'm not shure about this.
Rainer at UNIWUE.
From: Bill Chin <chin@clark.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Date: 21 Apr 1995 15:09:56 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3n8hs4$43f@clarknet.clark.net>
References: <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
kanig@swcp.com (Steven P. Kanig) wrote:
> but have been told that Improv will not run on NS 3.*
Improv works just fine on my NeXTstation running 3.3.
>I understand that there were no subsequent versions of
>Improv released, and Lotus has stopped supporting it; in fact,
>getting through to someone at Lotus who knows the
>answer to this question has proved absolutely impossible.
I'm not even sure what Lotus's support for Improv for Windows is like
these days. Anyways, Lighthouse has an Improv like spreadsheet called
Quantrix that's available now.
..Bill
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to set a 43 line display on dialin?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 14:06:27 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3n8e53$9rf@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
I'm using a PC at home to login to my NeXT on a dialin line. My terminal
emulator (TELIX, which supports ANSI BBS and vt102 emulation, among others)
can display 43 or 50 lines, but I can't figure out what shell command to use
to do this, so that terminal applications (like tin) use more than 24 lines.
I assume I need to use some variant of the tset command (preferably in my
login), but can't figure out if I need to add a termcap entry, or if there's
already one I can use.
Here's my .login, if that is of help:
#
# This file gets executed once at login or window startup.
#
set noglob; eval `tset -Q -s`; unset noglob
set term=$TERM
stty decctlq intr "^C" erase "^?" kill "^U"
stty -tabs
cd
#if (${?TN3270HOST}) tn3270 $TN3270HOST
#determine source of this login, using /usr/local/pedigree. Creates the
#following environmental vars:
#LOGINFROM - the presumed host from which the login is done.
#PARENTAPP - the application that is a 'parent' of your shell.
# telnet connection --> it will be telnetd.
# For an rlogin, it will be rlogind.
# For Terminal.app, it will be Terminal, etc...
if (-f /usr/local/bin/pedigree) then
setenv LOGINFROM `last -1 $USER | tr '.' ' ' | awk '{ print $3;}'`;
setenv PARENTAPP `/usr/local/bin/pedigree $$|head -3|tr ' '
'\012'|tail -1`;
if ( "${PARENTAPP}" != "rlogind" ) then
if ( "${PARENTAPP}" != "telnetd" ) then
setenv LOGINFROM
localhost;
endif
endif
endif
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail
OK)
Psychology Department
York University Voice: 416 736-5118
4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: PPP dial on demand?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 13:15:38 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3n8b5q$gdj@castle.york.ac.uk>
References: <D7867K.FCt@AWT.NL>
G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda) writes:
> Hello world!
>
> I have missed the developmentsd lately. As I recall there was a
> Japanese PPP version that does dial-on-demand, but with Japanese manuals.
> And there was ppp-2.2 which does not dial on demand. ppp-2.3 is supposed
> to do dial on demand. Does anybody know what the status of ppp-2.3 is?
Give us a chance ! We're still porting 2.2 out here. This is not yet
finalised as the 2.2 code is not yet finalised either. I have not
seen of heard any talk of a 2.3 as yet, though there has been some
discussion of the hooks for dial-on-demand being added.
-bat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni)
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Message-ID: <D7E8BH.7tu@prosoft.wimsey.com>
Sender: glen@prosoft.wimsey.com (Glen Biagioni)
Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc.
References: <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:26:04 GMT
Steven P. Kanig writes
> I'm currently running NEXTSTEP 2.1 on a NeXTSTation. One of my favorite
> and most useful applications is Improv (v 1.0) which works like a charm.
> I'd been considering upgrading to NS 3.3 to be able to install a
graphical
> web browser, etc., but have been told that Improv will not run on NS 3.*
> Does anybody have any definite knowledge of this? I understand that
there
> were no subsequent versions of Improv released, and Lotus has stopped
> supporting it; in fact, getting through to someone at Lotus who knows
the
> answer to this question has proved absolutely impossible. ("What's NeXT?
> You mean Windows? ...")
>
> Thanks.
It certainly ran well up NS3.2.
I run it now on NS3.3. No problems yet.
--
Glen Biagioni <glen@prosoft.com> (NeXTmail accepted)
Vancouver BC Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kanig@swcp.com (Steven P. Kanig)
Subject: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Message-ID: <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com>
Sender: news@swcp.com
Organization: Southwest Cyberport
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:13:56 GMT
I'm currently running NEXTSTEP 2.1 on a NeXTSTation. One of my favorite
and most useful applications is Improv (v 1.0) which works like a charm.
I'd been considering upgrading to NS 3.3 to be able to install a graphical
web browser, etc., but have been told that Improv will not run on NS 3.*
Does anybody have any definite knowledge of this? I understand that there
were no subsequent versions of Improv released, and Lotus has stopped
supporting it; in fact, getting through to someone at Lotus who knows the
answer to this question has proved absolutely impossible. ("What's NeXT?
You mean Windows? ...")
Thanks.
From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Date: 21 Apr 1995 10:20:47 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n80tv$6a1@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com>
In article <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com> kanig@swcp.com (Steven P. Kanig) writes:
[...snap...]
> web browser, etc., but have been told that Improv will not run on NS 3.*
[...snap...]
It runs just fine on NS3.2, have not seen any problems in over a year...
--
Piotr Twarecki
B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA <- no longer valid :-(
From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Date: 21 Apr 1995 10:21:43 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n80vn$6da@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com>
In article <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com> kanig@swcp.com (Steven P. Kanig) writes:
[...snap...]
> web browser, etc., but have been told that Improv will not run on NS 3.*
[...snap...]
It runs just fine on NS3.2, have not seen any problems in over a year. I don't
see why 3.3 would be any different, but you might want to verify with someone
anyway...
--
Piotr Twarecki
B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA <- no longer valid :-(
From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ?? [Multiple posts]
Date: 21 Apr 1995 10:31:09 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n81hd$6uu@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Apologies, NG kept telling me the post was refused...
--
Piotr Twarecki
B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA <- no longer valid :-(
From: ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP on the HP
Date: 21 Apr 1995 15:12:00 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <HADAR.95Apr21111200@uunet.uu.net>
I am running with the following version of ppp: NeXT-ppp2.2-0.1.9-pkg.tar.gz
When connecting from a NeXT to a NeXT everything works perfectly. (both are
running 3.2)
When connecting from an HP (running 3.3) to a NeXT (3.2) pings works fine,
but *any* attempt to do work, like ftp, telnet, etc., cause a cpu panic due
to data alignment problems. I do not have much more of a clue, but the two
arch's do have different alignment requirements and so this was a surpise to
me, but not a major surprise (still a bug, just not a surprising one).
However, when I connect from an HP (3.3) to an HP (3.3), the *remote* HP
cpu panics, and I don't get to see the error message (unfortunately), so
I don't know whether it too gets an alignment error or not. Again, ping works.
*Any* help would be appreciated! I am *fairly* sure that his has nothing to
do with the SerialPorts problems on the HP, etc., as things like TipTop, tip
and getty all work perfectly between the same two HPs ...
--
Hadar Pedhazur
Global Equity Derivatives
Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
From: Gerd Gueldenpfennig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hebrew or Right-to-Left Word Processor?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 14:39:46 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <3n8g3i$1h6@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <798454852snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Cedar Systems writes
> In article <3n6iq8$jme@potogold.rmii.com>
> garrett@opensource.com "Garrett L. Rice" writes:
>
> > A customer of mine is looking for a Hebrew wordprocess, or an editor
that
> > does right to left editing (which he can use his own fonts with).
Anybody
> > have any suggestions.
As far as I know OneVision is able to do this (or up-down editing,...)
But it is not only a editor, it is a complete publishing environment.
Ask bernd@oneVision.de
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig +
+ iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH +
+ Daimlerstrasse 3 76275 Ettlingen Germany + <== New !
+ Phone ++49 7243 3775-0 Fax ++49 7243 3775-77 + <== New !
+ Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) +
From: Gerd Gueldenpfennig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hebrew or Right-to-Left Word Processor?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 14:40:06 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <3n8g46$1h7@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <798454852snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Cedar Systems writes
> In article <3n6iq8$jme@potogold.rmii.com>
> garrett@opensource.com "Garrett L. Rice" writes:
>
> > A customer of mine is looking for a Hebrew wordprocess, or an editor
that
> > does right to left editing (which he can use his own fonts with).
Anybody
> > have any suggestions.
As far as I know OneVision is able to do this (or up-down editing,...)
But it is not only a editor, it is a complete publishing environment.
Ask bernd@oneVision.de
--
---
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig +
+ iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH +
+ Daimlerstrasse 3 76275 Ettlingen Germany + <== New !
+ Phone ++49 7243 3775-0 Fax ++49 7243 3775-77 + <== New !
+ Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ QMSprint - Network Printing for NEXTSTEP +
+ MERCATOR - GIS and Desktop Mapping for NEXTSTEP+
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: Gerd Gueldenpfennig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Hebrew or Right-to-Left Word Processor?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 14:40:30 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <3n8g4u$1h8@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <798454852snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Cedar Systems writes
> In article <3n6iq8$jme@potogold.rmii.com>
> garrett@opensource.com "Garrett L. Rice" writes:
>
> > A customer of mine is looking for a Hebrew wordprocess, or an editor
that
> > does right to left editing (which he can use his own fonts with).
Anybody
> > have any suggestions.
> >
As far as I know OneVision is able to do this (or up-down editing,...)
But it is not only a editor, it is a complete publishing environment.
Ask bernd@oneVision.de
--
---
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig +
+ iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH +
+ Daimlerstrasse 3 76275 Ettlingen Germany + <== New !
+ Phone ++49 7243 3775-0 Fax ++49 7243 3775-77 + <== New !
+ Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ QMSprint - Network Printing for NEXTSTEP +
+ MERCATOR - GIS and Desktop Mapping for NEXTSTEP+
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: jfd@bloch.tsasa.lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Date: 21 Apr 95 09:22:44
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <jfd.95Apr2192244@bloch.tsasa.lanl.gov>
References: <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Improv 1.0 (and PresentationBuilder) still work here under NS 3.3 on black hardware (three Cubes, one with NextDimension). Unbelievable! Now if only Allegro CL had been that robust...
From: sela@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone know of a MOD editor for NS?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 23:37:16 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n9fjc$l0j@news.iastate.edu>
Subject says it all.
--
*******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY********************
* Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) *
* --------------------------------------------------------- *
* He who throws mud loses ground. *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Subject: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Message-ID: <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:13:13 GMT
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
I notice a lot of companies, including NeXT, offer student pricing on
their software, and I think that is great. The problem is the two-tier
aspect of most pricing. I propose a third tier.
I am not a student and I am not a "commercial site." I am just an
individual who happened to like NEXTSTEP enough to be willing to buy it.
Now I am faced with the costs of buying/upgrading software packages at
commercial rates. I can't afford it. (Yea, I know -- Too Bad!)
If there is any interest out there in keeping people like me using
NEXTSTEP and related products, how about providing a break point between
student and commercial where we can participate without going broke?
--
Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike Zemina)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Any serious project management apps?
Date: 20 Apr 1995 17:34:34 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <3n65va$ldj@gateway.wiltel.com>
I'm needing to find a SERIOUS project management application for the NeXT.
Does anyone know of any?
It is HARD to learn about new NeXT applications!
Mike Zemina
If you have info, please eMail: mike_zemina@wiltel.com
--
/*Proverb: "Sensible people will see trouble coming
and avoid it, but an unthinking person will walk
right into it and regret it later."*/
//I'm from South Dakota. I only work in Oklahoma!
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Date: 21 Apr 1995 13:09:28 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <CRATH.95Apr21090928@bcarh20d.bnr.ca>
References: <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us>
In-reply-to: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us's message of Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:13:13 GMT
In article <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes:
> I notice a lot of companies, including NeXT, offer student pricing on
> their software, and I think that is great. The problem is the two-tier
> aspect of most pricing. I propose a third tier.
>
> I am not a student and I am not a "commercial site." I am just an
> individual who happened to like NEXTSTEP enough to be willing to buy it.
> Now I am faced with the costs of buying/upgrading software packages at
> commercial rates. I can't afford it. (Yea, I know -- Too Bad!)
>
> If there is any interest out there in keeping people like me using
> NEXTSTEP and related products, how about providing a break point between
> student and commercial where we can participate without going broke?
> --
> Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
I quite agreee. I too am an individual, non-commercial user of
NEXTSTEP. While I have shelled out money for 3.3 user and developer,
I don't think I'll be able to justify putting out $1000 for an upgrade
again. In order to by the upgrade I have had to forgo purchasing any
hardware this year.
What Microsoft does to address this is to push support costs up. When
I did MS Windows development (for a commercial S/W developer) we payed
upwards of $10,000 per year for MS technical support. This was money
well spent as it provided access to their bulletin board, access to
beta copies of s/w, etc.
While we weren't thrilled to have to pay such a high price, it was
worth it to the company to purchase this level of support. Microsoft
has other lower levels of support too (pay per call on up). This type
of support model allowed us to pay a small amount of money when the
company was new and small, and then grow our support to a higher level
when the company was bigger and had more money to throw around.
Christopher
--
=== Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 ===
Bell-Northern Research |
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Doom2 A & keyboard control, HOW?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 18:56:20 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n9d6k$q2m@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
I just got the new Doom2 and it looks nice, but I only can move around with the
mouse, and cant fire or anything...
Is there a way to enable the keyboard?
I tried through the keyboard panel, but it didn't want to take any input.
Is there a trick to it?
I'm trying to use the Commercial wad file.
Later, Thanks, John
From: tg2@prism.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: List of software available for NS on Sparc?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 21:34:54 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia
Sender: tg2@prism.gatech.edu
Message-ID: <3n9mfu$1m8@acmex.gatech.edu>
Having been a NeXT cube user from the beginning, I am about to move to
Sparcs (while continuing on the cubes for an indefinite time). Except
for the Lighthouse academic bundle (which I have for the Cube and will
buy for the Sparc), I am ignorant about what else is available (or soon
will be).
I would really like something to replace Virtuoso, possibly with the
capability to read Virtuoso files. PasteUp will also be nice so I can
upgrade.
I would appreciate any pointers to what is available for the Sparcs.
I have already searched through the stepwise web server.
Thank you very much.
govind
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul Vrotney)
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
In-Reply-To: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us's message of Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:13:13 GMT
Message-ID: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com>
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References: <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 02:17:52 GMT
Sender: vrotney@netcom19.netcom.com
In article <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes:
>
> I notice a lot of companies, including NeXT, offer student pricing on
> their software, and I think that is great. The problem is the two-tier
> aspect of most pricing. I propose a third tier.
>
> I am not a student and I am not a "commercial site." I am just an
> individual who happened to like NEXTSTEP enough to be willing to buy it.
> Now I am faced with the costs of buying/upgrading software packages at
> commercial rates. I can't afford it. (Yea, I know -- Too Bad!)
>
> If there is any interest out there in keeping people like me using
> NEXTSTEP and related products, how about providing a break point between
> student and commercial where we can participate without going broke?
> --
I'm another like you and I suspect that there are many others. But if this
market does exist out there for NeXT how can that mass voice be heard by
NeXT?
--
William P. Vrotney - vrotney@netcom.com
From: reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RE: Any serious project management apps?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 08:38:58 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@phakt.usc.edu
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Summary: If you want to get NeXT product information you should
You should subscribe to "NeXT In Line" the current NeXT publication of publications.
To get info on ordering it contact:
nil-subscriptions@abstractsoft.com
It is quite worth the minimal subscription cost ($24.00/6 issues/year - U.S.) (different prices for outside)
As for SERIOUS project mgmt app - can't remember offhand and my mags are elsewhere - but I thought there was a least one newer prog out.
Good luck
Matthew
From: "Paul T. Root" <proot@acs.uswest.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Date: 21 Apr 1995 15:41:16 GMT
Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems
Message-ID: <3n8jms$c4s@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
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Bill Chin <chin@clark.net> wrote:
>kanig@swcp.com (Steven P. Kanig) wrote:
>> but have been told that Improv will not run on NS 3.*
>
>Improv works just fine on my NeXTstation running 3.3.
>
>>I understand that there were no subsequent versions of
>>Improv released, and Lotus has stopped supporting it; in fact,
>>getting through to someone at Lotus who knows the
>>answer to this question has proved absolutely impossible.
>
>I'm not even sure what Lotus's support for Improv for Windows is like
>these days. Anyways, Lighthouse has an Improv like spreadsheet called
>Quantrix that's available now.
>
>..Bill
Dropped like a hot potato. They gave an "upgrade" path to 1.2.3 V5.
I took it. I don't like it. I like Improv. Alas.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stanford@aostra.uucp (Curtis Stanford)
Subject: DPS on PC??
Message-ID: <1995Apr21.203712.8652@aostra.uucp>
Organization: A.O.S.T.R.A.
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:37:12 GMT
Does anyone know of a product for a PC running Windoze that
would act as a Display PostScript server so that a program
running on NeXTSTEP could display on Windoze?? Any help
is appreciated.
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From: manager@dns.acton.com (manager)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) Viewer?
Date: 21 Apr 1995 19:28:46 GMT
Organization: Synergy Communication Inc.
Message-ID: <3n911e$bnq@legba.synergy.net>
Does such an animal exist for NS? Mail to me at pohl@acton.com if
you can reference one.
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Date: 21 Apr 1995 17:59:46 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Caching in OmniWeb is a bit of a pain when you are working with your
own server changing things behind the scenes. Is there something I'm
missing here? How do I force OmniWeb to ignore it's cache. I'd very
much like to see a default that turns off caching all together. If I
want caching I'll set up a proxy server to do the caching for
me. IMHO: Caching shouldn't be the role of the browser.
I'd also like to know the following..
I'm currently running 1.0 PR 2
1. Can OmniWeb cope with Netscape directives? Will it just ignore them?
2. Can OmniWeb deal with imagemaps? My first indication from the
www.geffen.com elastica page is that it cannot..
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
--
"Mary ate a little lamb and punk rock isn't dead"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame v3.2 for NEXTSTEP -- no upgrade fee necessary
Date: 21 Apr 1995 17:27:31 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.,
Message-ID: <3n8pu3$jis@sparkle.soltec.com>
References: <3n1vs8$aag@sparkle.soltec.com>
I think my article wasn't as clear as it could have been--my intention
(and my opinion) is to only say that this app upgrade is not worth the
money. The 3.2 version of the app has very little that wasn't in the
previous version and actually introduces a couple new display errors
(since I'm in a bit of a hurry, I'll just mention one: check out Times
12 Italic in a FrameMaker v3.2 window at 100% magnification versus
Times 12 Italic in an Edit.app RTF window--the Frame 3.2 window
renders the same font smaller than Edit.RTF [and all other NS apps
that allow you to draw Times 12 Italic]).
I think it's shameful that Lighthouse or Frame would want hundreds for
what Frame has told me was only intended to be a re-compile under NS
3.2 to make Frame MAB. MAB compiled apps take so little effort on the
part of the developer, I feel they are not worth more money, and I'm
against changing the version number in such a major way (it seems more
like a bugfix upgrade version number increase to me) certainly not the
fee that Lighthouse & Frame charges. I do recognize that no matter
what a ripoff I think the app upgrade is, it still legally requires
one to pay the upgrade fee in order to legally use the app.
Fortunately, there is an anonymous FTP'able demo from
ftp.lighthouse.com so you can check all this out for yourself. If
anyone would like to see my list of bugs, email me and I'll forward a
copy of them to you. All except the bugs at the very bottom of the
file have been sent to Frame tech support and acknowledged as bugs.
Most of these same bugs exist in Frame circa v3.0.
I should note that contrary to what a follow-up poster said, I don't
have the kind of pull at Frame to be able to start, stop or guide
production of FrameMaker for NS. I can only recall that for over two
years, Frame continued production of FrameMaker for other platforms
and left NS behind. Since there has been no mention of Frame 5 for
NS, I can only take it as a rumor that it *might* come out. However I
know better than to bank on rumors and so I have to believe that Frame
for NS will soon become two major versions behind the rest of the
Frame world.
My reason for bringing out the now long-standing 'bug' in Frame v3.2
with the license key is to illustrate their apparent sloppiness in
testing. If learning about the license-key 'bug' (if it was really
not intended to work as it does) is news to the FrameMaker
powers-that-be, they are paying bugtesters that aren't doing as good a
job as they ought, in my opinion. Certainly not as good a job as I
have been doing for them for free.
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Date: 21 Apr 1995 20:52:44 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3n95us$hre@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com>
In article <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com> kanig@swcp.com (Steven P. Kanig) writes:
:I'm currently running NEXTSTEP 2.1 on a NeXTSTation. One of my favorite
:and most useful applications is Improv (v 1.0) which works like a charm.
:I'd been considering upgrading to NS 3.3 to be able to install a graphical
:web browser, etc., but have been told that Improv will not run on NS 3.*
:Does anybody have any definite knowledge of this? I understand that there
:were no subsequent versions of Improv released, and Lotus has stopped
:supporting it; in fact, getting through to someone at Lotus who knows the
:answer to this question has proved absolutely impossible. ("What's NeXT?
:You mean Windows? ...")
You were mis-informed about Improv running on 3.3. I have it running as we
speak, and I am using 3.3. BTW, it also works on 3.2, and 3.1 (and has
worked on every pre-release I've tried -- which I think was all of them).
You are correct in the assertion that Improv has _never_ been updated. Which
is a real pisser! Since it is _by_far_ the best spreadsheet on the market
(even the Windows version is better than any other Window's spreadsheet).
They've even stopped developing the Windows version -- so I guess it is a
dead product.
I do understand that some vendor out there was planning on releasing a new
spreadsheet that reads Improv files and works (somewhat) like Improv. But I
haven't heard about it in nearly 3 months. (Was it Lighthouse?)
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From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Date: 21 Apr 1995 21:09:48 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3n96us$52a@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3n95us$hre@digdug.pencom.com>
In article <3n95us$hre@digdug.pencom.com> robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
writes:
:I do understand that some vendor out there was planning on releasing a new
:spreadsheet that reads Improv files and works (somewhat) like Improv. But I
:haven't heard about it in nearly 3 months. (Was it Lighthouse?)
To answer my own question: Yes, it is Lighthouse Design. The package is
called "Quantrix" and it will read/load both Improv for Windows and Improv
for NEXTSTEP files. I am currently downloading a demo from their ftp server:
ftp://ftp.lighthouse.com/pub/Quantrix
(I'm not yet sure which files in this tree I'll need....)
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From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Talk Daemon Message: You don't exist; Go away!
Date: 21 Apr 1995 19:17:14 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3n90bq$2tq@paladin.american.edu>
References: <3n70p8$jj3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3n70p8$jj3@nntp.Stanford.EDU> zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
writes:
:Can anyone please help me figure out why the talk daemon on my machine
:is now refusing to initiate talk sessions. When I attempt to use
:"talk", I get the error message "You don't exist. Go away." Talk has
:worked fine on my NeXTstation for the past 3 years.
: Earlier in the week, our system administrator inadvertently removed
:my machine from the Stanford University DNS (Domain Name Server), and
:it was unrecognizable by the rest of the world for 12 hours. Could
:some file have been corrupted?
: The mesg command says I can accept messages.
: But I now get the following console error messages in response to
:the "write" command:
: Message from ???@mally on ttyp1 at 17:32 ...
: test
: EOF
:The shell doesn't seem recognize me as zalta@mally.
: Any help appreciated.
:Thank you.
:Ed
:
This sounds like one of two frequent problems. Either the app you are running
has changed from Terminal.app to Stuart.app or the permissions on the
Terminal.app have changed. The permissions on Terminal.app/Terminal have to be
rwsr-xr-x or the permissions on Stuart.app/slog has to be the same.
The tty has to be started by root and then transferred to you in order to work
correctly. This is accomplished by some code in Terminal and by the slog
program in Stuart. (At least that is what I remember.)
--
Torrey McMahon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>
Keywords: Pages, NeXT, good-bye
Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 22:59:09 GMT
Well, the postings should be out on c.s.n.announce and elsewhere by now.
To summarize briefly: Pages Software Inc has licensed its NEXTSTEP source
code and marketing rights to IT Solutions, and we are exiting the
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep market. IT Solutions will continue to market, support,
and extend our NS product line, while we'll be building second-generation
web document tools to run under Windows 95 and Windows NT.
As someone who has been an advocate of NeXT since attending the 0.3
DevCamp back in March of 1988, and as the person responsible for Pages
having decided to develop for NEXTSTEP in the first place, I must confess
mixed emotions to this decision. I feel that NEXTSTEP is hands-down the
best OS and development environment on the market and has been for five
years; IMHO, NS 1.0 was better than anything that's out now or that will
be out in the near future. But it has become painfully clear that there is
not a sufficiently robust application software market to support our
development focus and efforts, much less to give our investors any return
on their money. I think NeXT is taking NS/OS in the right direction to
ensure its growth and survival; we just happen to be one of the
unavoidable casualties.
I have full confidence that Ted Shelton and his group at ITS can be
successful with our products. We even have some large customers lined up,
especially for our WebPages product line, which gives Ted a ready source
of income. Unfortunately, the effort that would be required to keep the
product moving forward and meet their needs would dramatically slow down
our time-critical efforts to create our new technology for mass
distribution. We're a small company, and we are strongly constrained by
our engineering resources; we just can't do both.
It's hard to disengage from a community that I've been immersed in for
over seven years, and I probably won't, at least, not completely. I still
have a NeXT at home, and we'll continue to have some here at Pages for the
foreseeable future. So I'll still browse through here from time to time,
probably mostly to complain about Windows/C++ development. :-)
We are going to Windows for a few simple reason. First, it is--quite
literally--what 95% of the people who have seen our web products have
asked us to do. Second, we have some nifty technology, both released and
unreleased, and we'd like as many people as possible to be able to use it.
Third, we'd like to get a return on our investment of time and effort;
we've all been putting in long hours for years on end. Finally, as the
Depression-era criminal Willy Sutton replied when asked why he robbed
banks, "It's where the money is."
I wish NeXT and NEXTSTEP nothing but good things. Even with this decision,
I'd be thrilled if IBM finally came to its sense, dumped OS/2 and
Taligent, bought NeXT, and marketed the hell out of NEXTSTEP. It's the
best thing I've seen in 21 years of software development, and I fear it
will be another 5 to 10 years until I see its like in a mass-market OS. To
all you who remain: best of luck, and may you all be successful.
..bruce..
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Chief Technical Officer | I shall take my palmheld portable and
Pages Software Inc | and hack upon the beach.
bwebster@pages.com | I have heard the networks passing packets
http://www.pages.com/ | each to each;
vox: 619/492-9050 x212 | They have no traffic for the likes of me.
fax: 619/492-9124 | -- Jeff Duntemann
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From: singer@aluminum.mps.ohio-state.edu. (Sherwin Singer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Specifying which App opens a file
Date: 22 Apr 1995 11:29:44 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics
Message-ID: <3napb8$81g@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Because WRI did not release a FAT version of Mathematica (%$&#!!), we have
Mma/HP sitting in the LocalApps directory mounted on all machines of our
netinfo network, and Mma/NeXT sitting in the Apps directory of our one
black machine.
When I double-click on a .ma file on the black machine, the Mma/HP
sitting in LocalApps starts up and, of course, generates an error message.
Is there some way to make the copy of Mma/NeXT sitting in Apps the
default on the black machine? Unfortunately, the Mma/NeXT sitting in Apps
doesn't even appear in the Tools Inspector panel, so I can't make it the
default App using Tools Inspector from Workspace.
--
Sherwin Singer internet: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept. of Chemistry bitnet: singer@ohstpy
Ohio State University
(614)292-8909 FAX: (614)292-1685
From: Charles Ashley <71333.624@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WP w/support for Word files?
Date: 22 Apr 1995 14:50:35 GMT
Organization: MatriX Publishing Network
Message-ID: <3nb53r$26j$2@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
Hi all -
Can anyone recommend a NS wordprocessor which will read and write
MS Word for Windows files? - pref. W4W 6.0 files.
TIA,
Charles
charlesa@mpn.com
From: SPAWN712@news.delphi.com (SPAWN712@DELPHI.COM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone have files for a Packard Bell TV?
Date: 22 Apr 1995 11:49:01 -0400
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Message-ID: <3nb8hd$m1t@news2.delphi.com>
Summary: I need audio.dll, tuner.dll, and pcvideo.dll for a PBTV.
Keywords: PBTV files
I recently lost PBTV3 files in a hard drive crash. I was wondering if
anyone had audio.dll, tuner.dll, and/or pcvideo.dll for a PBTV or knows
where I can get these files. Please answer if you have any information.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hocker@samizdat (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: "You have new mail."
Message-ID: <D7EGEG.4tu@samizdat>
Organization: The 341 Monmouth St. Network
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:20:40 GMT
Is it possible to replace the "You have mail." message from the default conf-
iguration of NS 3.3 with the more standard "You have new mail." (when you have
unread mail) and "You have mail." when you have mail, but you've read it.
I dial into my machine a lot, so it would really help!
Matt
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From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 22 Apr 1995 16:04:07 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Message-ID: <3nb9dn$3t8@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>
Bruce F. Webster (bwebster@pages.com) wrote:
: ...we are exiting the NEXTSTEP/OpenSTEP market.
and
: But it has become painfully clear that there is
: not a sufficiently robust application software
: market to support our development focus and efforts...
: we just happen to be one of the
: unavoidable casualties.
: I wish NeXT and NEXTSTEP nothing but good things. Even with this decision,
: I'd be thrilled if IBM finally came to its sense, dumped OS/2 and
: Taligent, bought NeXT, and marketed the hell out of NEXTSTEP. It's the
: best thing I've seen in 21 years of software development, and I fear it
: will be another 5 to 10 years until I see its like in a mass-market OS
This is yet another indication (as unfortunate as it may be) that NeXT
will never have a "mainstream" operating system. Here, one of the LEADING
NeXTSTEP developers, bailing because (amongst other reasons) - no supporting
shrinkwrapped software.
This should be an indication to NeXT that closer support of their
developer channel and reseller channel is in order.
We went through an entire year (and are no longer Object Channel Partners)
only to REPEATEDLY see small customers <25 seats with pre-releases of the
OS's for HP and SPARC before we knew they were out there. Hell, well couldn't
even have access to NeXT's customer base in accordance with the Object
Channel Agreement signed by NeXT...You can't even BUY the attendence lists
from DCI for either of the last two Expos.
Keep going NeXT, you will end of like to Beta format Sony had...best
product format + no marketing effort/cooperation = no product.
You can't keep the company going on inside sales.
Wasn't the announcement by Pages for their WebPages product just made
about 1.5 months ago (the shipping announcement)?
We'll miss you Bruce.
Dave
From: Patrick Stein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: JollysZyXEL_Fax_Modem problem
Date: 22 Apr 1995 17:14:02 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nbdgq$1uh@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3n6n0k$qio@athos.rutgers.edu>
Hiho !
> [...] handshaking problem and in fact the ZyXEL's cts light starts to flash
> during the transmission. But I tried both /dev/cua and /dev/cufa -
How did you try the different devices ?? You consulted Netinfo ??? no way ...
I'm using the cuf device in any case ;v)
> same problem. (I have no idea of how to slow down the driver which is
> running at 19k). Before I start fooling with the ZyXEL's settings, are
> there any suggestions? I would prefer getting this to work before I
> send off the very reasonable shareware fee.
You should have contacted me first to get various versions of the driver for
testing purposes.
I'll get in touch with you via e-mail :v)
---
keep cool - jolly
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Jolly alias Patrick Stein jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de
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City councelor : " What are all those channels for ? "
Architect : " For all the blood."
City councelor : " And what are all those knifes for ? "
Architect : " To chop everybodys head off. " m.python
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From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "You have new mail."
Date: 22 Apr 1995 18:00:00 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3nbg70$lfk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <D7EGEG.4tu@samizdat>
In article <D7EGEG.4tu@samizdat> hocker@ritz.mordor.com writes:
>Is it possible to replace the "You have mail." message from the default conf-
>iguration of NS 3.3 with the more standard "You have new mail." (when you have
>unread mail) and "You have mail." when you have mail, but you've read it.
>
>I dial into my machine a lot, so it would really help!
>
>Matt
For my NeXT, I sometimes get (say 85%) the message "You have mail" when in
fact I have new mail, and the rest of the time the more informative
warning that new mail awaits me. I have developed various theories that
have high explanatory power for the apparently random choice. For
instance, if my message is the first one into the next bunch of 20x messages,
then it is called new mail. But alas, occasionally, I get "new mail" as the
message for #13, say. SO it is random, and only my NeXT knows its own ways.....
LOnes
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E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 || of Technology is a Latin affectation
617-253-0914 (voice), -6915 (fax) || with which I strongly disagree.
lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail OK) || Feel free to svbstitvte `u' as desired.
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 22 Apr 1995 18:26:27 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3nbhoj$pvk@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>
Best of luck, Bruce. The educational community, other than receiving low
pricing, has also pretty much been abandoned. NeXT is in essence becoming a
software-tool developer for in-house mission-critical apps, and is rapidly
leaving the general operating systems market. I wish them better luck at
their new efforts, too.
Well, it will be linux for me within one to two years, too. Let's hope that
we will get Pages on linux.
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance (ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu)
AGSM at UCLA
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Date: 22 Apr 1995 17:52:17 GMT
Message-ID: <3nbfoh$a3h@aragorn.unibe.ch>
References: <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson writes
> Caching in OmniWeb is a bit of a pain when you are working with your
> own server changing things behind the scenes. Is there something I'm
> missing here? How do I force OmniWeb to ignore it's cache. I'd very
> much like to see a default that turns off caching all together. If I
> want caching I'll set up a proxy server to do the caching for
> me. IMHO: Caching shouldn't be the role of the browser.
>
I don't think that the caching on the browser's side is that bad. You can always
reload a page by pressing cmd-u.
But there should be a limit to the cache. We have one user here who manages to fill
up the disk (by increasing the swapfile due to the caching) every time he use
OmniWeb. He is constantly rebooting the computer (32 MB RAM, and 80MB free to swap
on the HD, including the 32 MB the swapfile starts with.)
--
Moritz Willers
Institute of Theoretical Physics
Sidlerstrasse 5
3012 Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail, MIME)
From: don@elliptic.com (Don Hurter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 00:38:10 -0700
Organization: Fast Willy's House of Otters
Message-ID: <don-2204950038100001@slip173.sirius.com>
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>
In article <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>, bwebster@pages.com wrote:
> It's hard to disengage from a community that I've been immersed in for
> over seven years, and I probably won't, at least, not completely. I still
> have a NeXT at home, and we'll continue to have some here at Pages for the
> foreseeable future. So I'll still browse through here from time to time,
> probably mostly to complain about Windows/C++ development. :-)
I commend Bruce for the integrity and level-headed thinking that he has
brought to this group. At this point in NeXTSTEP's history, I am not
suprised to hear that Pages had to make this difficult decision. I thank
the NS software engineers and directors at Pages for sticking it out this
long, rather than throwing in the towel a year ago when NeXT cemented
their position that they were focusing primarilty in the MCCA market (I
know NeXT has been trying to tell us this for over two years, but the 1994
Expo was, for me, the final farewell to productivity application vendors.)
I think Pages, despite their rocky product introduction history, has
provided some much-needed credibility to NeXTSTEP when it needed it most.
I hope that Bruce might actually contribute more to this newsgroup, now
that he doesn't have the Pages/NeXTSTEP bias to uphold. And since few
Windows users ever stray into this arcane corner of the Net, feel free to
let us know how bad Windows truly does suck in comparison - we won't tell
anyone. :-)
> I wish NeXT and NEXTSTEP nothing but good things. Even with this decision,
> I'd be thrilled if IBM finally came to its sense, dumped OS/2 and
> Taligent, bought NeXT, and marketed the hell out of NEXTSTEP.
I guess at this point this is the best most of us can hope for.
Although having IBM by your side these days might be more of a curse than
a blessing (note how Apple is doing a few years after their 'marriage' to
IBM.) Actually, IBM's endoresment might add more value to Sun's and HP's
commitment to NS, although an interest by Oracle would help tremendously
as well. But that's the topic for another thread...
Thanks again, Bruce, for your efforts and contributions. I wish you
well for your new directions and choice of development platform :-P Don't
be a stranger.
-- Don
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: "You have new mail."
Message-ID: <D7GC82.H1E@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <D7EGEG.4tu@samizdat> <3nbg70$lfk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:45:38 GMT
Lones A Smith (lasmith@athena.mit.edu) wrote:
: For my NeXT, I sometimes get (say 85%) the message "You have mail" when in
: fact I have new mail, and the rest of the time the more informative
: warning that new mail awaits me. I have developed various theories that
: have high explanatory power for the apparently random choice.
This behaviour also exists on SGI IRIX.
For me, it says "You have mail." when mail has arrived BEFORE I logged
in. It says "You have new mail." whenever new mail AFTER I log in.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
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From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <D7GEMG.2BG@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 20:37:27 GMT
In article <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com> bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) writes:
[Pages quits]
This is a decision that was not taken yesterday. You don't take decisions like
these lightly and they take some time. I feel a bit cheated in that this comes
so short after the WebPages release and me buying the upgrade. At that point
they probably knew that this was (likely) going to happen.
Either WebPages is viable as a product or it is not. Transferring it to another
company doesn't change that (makes it even less viable, normally). I don't know
if I would have bought the upgrade (probably not) if I had known that Pages
would quit.
Well, too bad, and back to work.
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with Emacs for NS (4.0pl6)
Date: 18 Apr 1995 10:51:39 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Tuebingen
Message-ID: <3n05js$p0p@wsiserv.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>
Hi,
recently I tried to upgrade Emacs for NeXTstep 4.0 from patchlevel 5
to patchelevel 6. Everything (ie. the compile) is fine until I try to
run Emacs.app. After a while of intensive harddisk access, the icon
is displayed and then removed. The console logs a message like:
sequencep, undefined
Patchlevel 5, using the same configuration parameters, is working.
So I diceded to find out myself what the problem is, but gave up
after trying to remove some of the patches, which didn't improve
anything. Does anybody else have the same problems ?
Another odd point is, that I am able to start patchlevel 6 as root
from the commandline with the -ns option (this creates a buffer
named -ns, which should not happen), however starting Emacs.app as
root also doesn't work. Needless to say, that "-ns" does not fix
the problem for non-root users.
The reason why I actually want to go to patchlevel 6 is, that one of
my elisp packages (Tower Eiffel) complains about a wrong argument type
in patchlevel 5. Apperently, this has been solved in 6.
BTW, thanks to Mr. Edman for this great app. It's a shame the fsf does
not support his work.
Bye,
Harald
--
Harald Lauer Those health nuts will look
Wilhelm-Schickard Institut fuer Informatik stupid someday, lying in
Universitaet Tuebingen hospital dying of nothing.
URL: http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/iic/Harald.Lauer.html
From: ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 22 Apr 1995 20:41:25 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site
Message-ID: <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net>
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>
In-reply-to: bwebster@pages.com's message of Fri, 21 Apr 1995 22:59:09 GMT
OK, here goes from the corporate point of view (or last from my
personal small world point of view ...):
I have nothing but the *utmost* respect for Bruce Webster and his and
Pages' accomplishments. In addition to their fine products, he did a
wonderful job at the recent NS/OS days expo in NY (other than
mentioning that he was bowing out of the NeXT biz ...). I think that
from seeing Pages and WebPages, it is obvious that Bruce is way at the
top of his software game, and at the very upper echelon of NeXT
software in general.
However .............
It is simplistic to look at Pages' retreat from the NS marketplace as
a result of NeXT doing this or that (whatever your opinion of what
this and that are, or your opinion of whether this or that is right or
wrong!). Pages (the product) was way too long in coming, and way too
little after that long wait. Now before I get flamed simply for that
one comment (I certainly expect to get flamed for the general tone),
let me say that I don't mean that a product as sophisticated as Pages
should have taken less time, etc. The problem with Pages is that is
was over-hyped for *so* long, with nary a glimpse as to what it was or
would be. It was going to *revolutionize* document creation, etc.
The longer it takes, the more people expect because the assumption is
that if it *will* indeed revolutionize document creation then it must
be a real hard engineering problem.
Guess what though, when it came out, to me personally, it was a *real
yawner*. Yeah, it's *real hot*. Yeah, it's *real powerful*. Yeah, it's
*substitute your favorite phrase*. But ..., a new paradigm (as had
been heralded) it was most definitely *not*. There are no earthshaking
capabilities inherent in Pages that make it compelling for people who
have been solving document processing problems for years to switch en
masse to Pages (especially if they have invested heavily in other
software and the documents produced by them). The longer it took Pages
to get the product out, the more investment (both in $ and in actual
mountains of documents!) existed in the corporate world (on the NS
front).
What is the consequence of that? People as talented as Bruce can *not*
be cheap. Investors can *not* afford to wait as long as it took and
then have the actual product be wonderful but anti-climactic.
Bottom line, IMhO, I think that Pages is leaving the NS market not
because of any lack of support or alignment of NeXT's strategy with
the strategy of Pages, but rather a case of too little too late for
too much $. Bruce is correct that if they can reproduce the same
beauty on Windows95 they will reap the benefit. Not necessarily
because they will *own* the market due to a superior product (which it
may very well be!), but rather because a pimple on the butt of
Microsoft's sales can still be *gigantic* revenue and I too wish them
the best possible success.
[[[AsbestosSuit alloc] init] cover: "hadar"];
Let the good times roll ...
--
Hadar Pedhazur
Global Equity Derivatives
Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
From: Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 21:19:04 GMT
Organization: Squirrel Bin
Sender: preston@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu
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References: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com> <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us>
In article: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com> William Paul Vrotney
<vrotney@netcom.com >writes
> > I am not a student and I am not a "commercial site." I am just an
> I'm another like you and I suspect that there are many others. But if
this
> market does exist out there for NeXT how can that mass voice be heard
by
By putting it in a mass voice. Bundle 100 orders or so together, and you
will be heard. Are 100 people out there interested in the NEXTSTEP
System Software Purchasing Co-op?
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
Newt-thought is right-thought. Go Newt!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Message-ID: <1995Apr22.224842.5333@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk> <3nbfoh$a3h@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:48:42 GMT
In article <3nbfoh$a3h@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch writes:
>>Robert Nicholson writes
>>> Caching in OmniWeb is a bit of a pain when you are working with your
>>> own server changing things behind the scenes. Is there something I'm
>>> missing here? How do I force OmniWeb to ignore it's cache. I'd very
>>> much like to see a default that turns off caching all together. If I
>>> want caching I'll set up a proxy server to do the caching for
>>> me. IMHO: Caching shouldn't be the role of the browser.
>>>
>>I don't think that the caching on the browser's side is that bad. You can always
>>reload a page by pressing cmd-u.
>>But there should be a limit to the cache. We have one user here who manages to fill
>>up the disk (by increasing the swapfile due to the caching) every time he use
>>OmniWeb. He is constantly rebooting the computer (32 MB RAM, and 80MB free to swap
>>on the HD, including the 32 MB the swapfile starts with.)
Hah. I have a machine with 192MB of memory, and several hundred MB of
swap, and lately, as I've been working on my dissertation (which is
written in HTML, and, due to committee requests, is one HTML file
per chapter), I have to reboot *that* machine several times a day. The
combination of OmniImage and OmniWeb are real pigs when you do cmd-u alot...
I don't want to even talk about what this does to my home machine, which
only has 32MB...
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/
--> MIT Media Lab, Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G, Cambridge, MA 02139
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From: beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty)
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Message-ID: <3nbr98$294@beatty.slip.netcom.com>
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: none
References: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:08:56 GMT
In article <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us>
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes:
>
> I notice a lot of companies, including NeXT, offer student pricing on
> their software, and I think that is great. The problem is the two-tier
> aspect of most pricing. I propose a third tier.
>
> I am not a student and I am not a "commercial site." I am just an
> individual who happened to like NEXTSTEP enough to be willing to buy
it.
> Now I am faced with the costs of buying/upgrading software packages at
> commercial rates. I can't afford it. (Yea, I know -- Too Bad!)
In article <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com> vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul
Vrotney) responds:
>
> I'm another like you and I suspect that there are many others. But if
this
> market does exist out there for NeXT how can that mass voice be heard by
> NeXT?
Well, we can make a little bit of noise here. I doubt NeXT will
hear us, though. Personally, I think NeXT has painted themselves into
a corner with their pricing policy, and they're still too admiring of
their (black, or course) paint job to notice.
--
Derek Lee Beatty
beatty@netcom.com ,(((|)))-K ,(((|)))-K ,(((|)))-K ,(((|)))-K
Austin, Texas ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
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From: beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty)
Subject: Modula-3, anyone?
Message-ID: <3nbrjf$296@beatty.slip.netcom.com>
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:14:23 GMT
Has anyone succeeded in getting a recent version of DEC SRC Modula-3
including Trestle and formsvbt up on black hardware? I've built 3.5.2
(after yanking the posixism out of quake and the link flags), but when
compiling long lists of files, m3 dies with "Segmentation violation -
possible attempt to dereference NIL". I've been able to build some things
by feeding code to m3 piece by piece, but not Trestle. Modula-3 looks
like a really pleasant programming language.
--
Derek Lee Beatty
beatty@netcom.com ,(((|)))-K ,(((|)))-K ,(((|)))-K
Austin, Texas ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
From: Ernest Prabhakar <ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Date: 23 Apr 1995 06:00:43 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
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References: <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
In article: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com> William Paul Vrotney
<vrotney@netcom.com >writes
> > I am not a student and I am not a "commercial site." I am just an
> I'm another like you and I suspect that there are many others.
> But if this market does exist out there for NeXT
> how can that mass voice be heard by
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu> writes
>
> By putting it in a mass voice. Bundle 100 orders or so together,
> and you will be heard. Are 100 people out there interested in
> the NEXTSTEP System Software Purchasing Co-op?
Well, I personally think this is a crazy idea. But then again, I like
crazy ideas. And I will soon be non-student home user myself. So, you
can count me in. Heck, we can even setup a NUGI SIG to represent us
(nexthome?). I'll file the paperwork if somebody else will come up
with a charter. I'm not sure if we have enough in common to lobby
effectively, but why not give it a try?
-- Ernie P.
--
Ernest N. Prabhakar, President, NEXTSTEP/OpenStep User Groups Intnl.
NeXT mail:ernest@caltech.edu "...your servants for Jesus' sake."
http://www.cithep.caltech.edu/~ernest/Home.htmld - II Cor 4:5b
"I speak for myself, and often for 'nugi', but never for Caltech."
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Keyboard.app and CDPlayer improved in 3.3
Date: 23 Apr 1995 03:51:43 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9504230839.AA00263@hukatronic.cz>
Hi All,
A while ago I just discovered two small undocumented(?) improvements in 3.3.
First:
Keyboard.app supports key sequences, which allows you to assign multiple
characters to a single key. See help in Keyboard.app for more information.
Second:
The volume control in CDPlayer now works with my Toshiba XM-3401TA CD-ROM.
---
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Page break in Edit.app?
Date: 23 Apr 1995 08:04:47 GMT
Organization: California State University, Northridge
Message-ID: <3nd1mv$3o3@dewey.csun.edu>
References: <1995Apr20.212059.5805@proximus.north.de>
In article <1995Apr20.212059.5805@proximus.north.de>
gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> In article <798140689snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>,
> Cedar Systems <Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >In article <1995Apr16.115501.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
> > sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
> >
> >> Is there anyway to put a page break in a document via Edit.app?
If not, is
> >> there some way I might add one to an rtf document using
formatting codes in
> >> another editor (like emacs or vi)?
> >>
> >A quick and dirty way is to bring up Edit's Preferences panel,
switch to
> >Temporary Settings, and change the Rich Text Options to 'Ignore
Rich Text
> >Format'. Now open the rtf document, and insert a \page directive
at the
> >appropriate place.
>
> Did you test that? For me it does not seem to work.
>
> Gerhard.
> --
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From: vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Date: 23 Apr 1995 08:06:31 GMT
Organization: California State University, Northridge
Message-ID: <3nd1q7$3os@dewey.csun.edu>
References: <1995Apr22.224842.5333@news.media.mit.edu>
In article <1995Apr22.224842.5333@news.media.mit.edu>
wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> In article <3nbfoh$a3h@aragorn.unibe.ch> willers@butp.unibe.ch
writes:
> >>Robert Nicholson writes
> >>> Caching in OmniWeb is a bit of a pain when you are working
with your
> >>> own server changing things behind the scenes. Is there
something I'm
> >>> missing here? How do I force OmniWeb to ignore it's cache. I'd
very
> >>> much like to see a default that turns off caching all
together. If I
> >>> want caching I'll set up a proxy server to do the caching for
> >>> me. IMHO: Caching shouldn't be the role of the browser.
> >>>
> >>I don't think that the caching on the browser's side is that bad.
You can always
> >>reload a page by pressing cmd-u.
> >>But there should be a limit to the cache. We have one user here
who manages to fill
> >>up the disk (by increasing the swapfile due to the caching) every
time he use
> >>OmniWeb. He is constantly rebooting the computer (32 MB RAM, and
80MB free to swap
> >>on the HD, including the 32 MB the swapfile starts with.)
>
> Hah. I have a machine with 192MB of memory, and several hundred MB
of
> swap, and lately, as I've been working on my dissertation (which is
> written in HTML, and, due to committee requests, is one HTML file
> per chapter), I have to reboot *that* machine several times a day.
The
> combination of OmniImage and OmniWeb are real pigs when you do
cmd-u alot...
>
> I don't want to even talk about what this does to my home machine,
which
> only has 32MB...
>
>
>
> --
> --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
> --> http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/
> --> MIT Media Lab, Computer Graphics & Animation Group
> --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G, Cambridge, MA 02139
Does anyone know of a fix!
Rick
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Subject: Re: Informal test of three Word Processors (LONG)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 04:45:20 PDT
Message-ID: <000B5316.fc@iqinc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Cevin_Millstead@iqinc.com (Cevin Millstead)
To: Gary_Affonso@iqinc.com (Gary Affonso)
Cc: Cevin_Millstead@iqinc.com (Cevin Millstead), Ryan_Coplen@iqinc.com (Ryan Coplen), Scott_Olling@iqinc.com (Scott Olling), Liz_Atteberry@iqinc.com (Liz Atteberry), Gary_Affonso@iqinc.com (Gary Affonso)
Organization: ImagingQuest
How about Microlimp....
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 14:39:47 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950423153947.982AACUQ.malc@daneel>
References: <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk> <3nbfoh$a3h@aragorn.unibe.ch> <1995Apr22.224842.5333@news.media.mit.edu>
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> Hah. I have a machine with 192MB of memory, and several hundred
> MB of swap, and lately, as I've been working on my dissertation
> (which is written in HTML, and, due to committee requests, is one
> HTML file per chapter), I have to reboot *that* machine several
> times a day. The combination of OmniImage and OmniWeb are real
> pigs when you do cmd-u alot...
>
I've been wondering if there might actually be a memory leak in
OmniImage...? Things seemed to get a lot worse after I upgraded to the
latest version. On the other hand maybe it's just my imagination. Anyone
from Omni care to comment?
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Successful named matches not return true?
Date: 23 Apr 1995 16:11:36 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznewz6md5bzc@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
I'm running the following script (aglimpse from glimpseHTTP)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
chdir $indexdir;
$cmd = "exec $GLIMPSE_LOC -y -n $OPT_case $OPT_whole $OPT_errors -H . " .
"$OPT_filter '$QS_query' 2>&1 |";
$gpid = open(GOUT, $cmd );
$prevfile = "";
$lcount = 0;
$fcount = 0;
line: while (<GOUT>) {
Now even though the line below matches correctly and $1
$2 and $3 are set correctly it _doesn't_ return true. ie the "next"
statement gets executed when it shouldn't. Is this a bug? (4.036)
Sample input lines are below.
Also should it return true or the number of successfull matches?
/^([^:]*):\s*(\d+):(.*)/); || next;
$file = $1;
$line = $2;
$string = $3;
print STDERR "$file $line $string\n";
next unless $file =~ s|^$indexdir||o;
if ($file ne $prevfile) {
$linecount = 0;
if ($fcount>$maxfiles) {
print "<H3>Limit of $maxfiles files exceeded...</H3>\n";
$file = "";
$fcount = "at least $fcount";
$lcount = "at least $lcount";
last line;
}
print "</UL>" if ( $prevfile ne "" );
$prevfile = $file ;
print "<H3>File <A HREF=\"",$FSSERV,"/",$script,$file,
"\">/",$urlpath,$file,"</A></H3><UL>\n" ;
$fcount++ ;
}
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From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <robertznewz6pefi6i@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Control: cancel <robertznewz6pefi6i@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Date: 23 Apr 1995 16:13:49 +0100
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <robertznewz6l5ghuh@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: martin@jeramy.westfalen.de (Martin Roggon)
Subject: newsgrazer, again.
Message-ID: <1995Apr23.153300.355@jeramy.westfalen.de>
Sender: martin@jeramy.westfalen.de
Organization: Martin's NeXTcube, 59387 Ascheberg, Germany
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 95 15:33:00 GMT
There should be an update for NewsGrazer 3.0 version 75
which will turn this app to a good function ....
Does anyone of you know where to find it on
ftp ?!?
Martin
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From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Date: 23 Apr 1995 20:05:54 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <3nebv2$nj4@paladin.american.edu>
References: <950423153947.982AACUQ.malc@daneel>
In article <950423153947.982AACUQ.malc@daneel> mmalcolm Crawford
<m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
:I've been wondering if there might actually be a memory leak in
:OmniImage...? Things seemed to get a lot worse after I upgraded to the
:latest version. On the other hand maybe it's just my imagination. Anyone
:from Omni care to comment?
:
:Have fun,
:
:mmalc.
After getting the 1.0 release I also noticed how memory seemed to go real quick
and the machine needed re-booting alot! I also think it got slower IMHO.
Here is an other OmniWeb request. How about when you pick Open URL in services
it ONLY opens that URL and not your home page also.
--
Torrey McMahon
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SwapSpace
Date: 23 Apr 1995 20:07:48 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <3nec2k$nj9@paladin.american.edu>
Is their any way to limit the amount of disk space that gets eaten by the
swapping? I keep having to re-boot a poor 32 meg Turbo Color machine five times
a day sometimes. Especially when people run a changing background, OmniWeb and
view pictures off of the net.
--
Torrey McMahon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: DPS on PC??
Message-ID: <D7I8Lw.157@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <1995Apr21.203712.8652@aostra.uucp>
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:22:43 GMT
In article <1995Apr21.203712.8652@aostra.uucp> stanford@aostra.uucp
(Curtis Stanford) writes:
> Does anyone know of a product for a PC running Windoze that
> would act as a Display PostScript server so that a program
> running on NeXTSTEP could display on Windoze?? Any help
> is appreciated.
Not now. But NeXT has announced Open Step for Windows 95 and NT for
the beginning of '96. And I heared, that some GNU-people are working
on GNU-Step, which should be a free equivalent.
Michael
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From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 23 Apr 1995 16:30:34 -0500
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Message-ID: <3negtq$cr9@crchh78b.bnr.ca>
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>
Keywords: Pages, NeXT, good-bye
In article <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>, Bruce F. Webster <bwebster@pages.com> wrote:
>we'll be building second-generation web document tools to run under
>Windows 95 and Windows NT.
How about OS/2, too?
=======================
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From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Date: 23 Apr 1995 21:59:55 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3neikr$i1m@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk> <3nbfoh$a3h@aragorn.unibe.ch> <1995Apr22.224842.5333@news.media.mit.edu> <950423153947.982AACUQ.malc@daneel>
mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
>> Hah. I have a machine with 192MB of memory, and several hundred
>> MB of swap, and lately, as I've been working on my dissertation
>> (which is written in HTML, and, due to committee requests, is one
>> HTML file per chapter), I have to reboot *that* machine several
>> times a day. The combination of OmniImage and OmniWeb are real
>> pigs when you do cmd-u alot...
>>
>I've been wondering if there might actually be a memory leak in
>OmniImage...? Things seemed to get a lot worse after I upgraded to the
>latest version. On the other hand maybe it's just my imagination. Anyone
>from Omni care to comment?
Hmmm...OK, I wasn't going to say too much until i was sure it wasn't
something else, but I experienced all the symptoms of a catastrophic
memory leak that I suspect was due to OmniImageFilter (latest version.)
The system involved was a ND Turbo Cube 32/48/2.1GB with a 400MB swapdisk.
It itermittantly locked up rock-hard during editng and layout sessions.
I sent in a bug report to Omni.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 24 Apr 1995 04:15:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3nf8kg$omj@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
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belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
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news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
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discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
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The ftp sites
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ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Globe Backspace
Message-ID: <1995Apr23.200324.482@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:03:24 GMT
There used to be a globe backspace module or screen saver. Does it still
exist for 3.3?
Thanks
Wes
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Soft-PC Printing to Preview
Message-ID: <1995Apr23.200606.539@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:06:06 GMT
Is there a way to have Soft-PC print and have the output go to preview.
The need is as follow. One of my users has printshop on which they like
to build FAXes with borders and other stuff. They have SoftPC, but NXFax
locks the modem, so that it can not be used by SoftPC. Thus, if I can go
to preview, they can then FAX it from NEXTSTEP. Any thoughts?
Thansk
Wes
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From: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Kyocera F1200 to NSI3.3 ?
Date: 24 Apr 1995 08:40:16 GMT
Organization: University of Constance, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nfo5g$97n@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
Keywords: Laser Printer,Installation
Hello
I want to connect a Kyocera LaserPrinter to my NSI. I have
installed 3.3, but for this Printer I have found no ppd-File.
Does anyone know, where do I get this Files? Or does anyone
know which Printer description File I can use instead?
Thank you very much
Erland Wittkoetter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Message-ID: <D7JAo8.Ho@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
References: <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:04:56 GMT
In article <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk>, robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk
says...
>me. IMHO: Caching shouldn't be the role of the browser.
Well, I would agree (as I am running a caching proxy WWW server myself,
which itself is using another proxy...). But not all WWW servers (noticably
WWW.NeXT.com and WWW.Pages.com) are recent. They use the real old
server from the httpd1.3 package out on the net. That server package should be
removed as soon as possible IMHO, since it doesn't support the conditional get
that caching servers rely on. And it spreading over the NEXTSTEP community
only makes matters worse.
Current NCSA httpd and CERN httpd both support conditional get.
Follow-ups should be to comp.sys.next.sysadmin, though, since this is posted
from WinVN, I cannot set the follow-up header myself. So, this is posted to both,
sorry.
--Gerben
From: paul@xexos.com (Paul Civati)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Finding BSD source for NeXTSTEP
Date: 24 Apr 1995 10:59:47 GMT
Organization: Xexos Ltd, London
Message-ID: <3ng0b3$9ct@xexos.xexos.com>
Where is the best place to get unix s/c that will compile under NeXTSTEP?
For example, I want to hack up a copy of finger to do some special things,
what finger source should I use to do it?
Getting some NetBSD finger source just does not compile cleanly, well it
doesn't compile.
-Paul-
--
Paul Civati FYI it's 'sivarty' ;-) Work: paul@xexos.com
Xexos Ltd http://www.xexos.com/ Home: paul@xciv.demon.co.uk
London UK
From: dcoyle@kakapo.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 24 Apr 1995 12:23:31 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3ng583$aj9@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com> <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net>
ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net (Hadar Pedhazur) wrote:
(about Pages the product:)
>Guess what though, when it came out, to me personally, it was a *real
>yawner*. Yeah, it's *real hot*. Yeah, it's *real powerful*. Yeah,
it's
>*substitute your favorite phrase*. But ..., a new paradigm (as had
>been heralded) it was most definitely *not*. There are no
earthshaking
>capabilities inherent in Pages that make it compelling for people who
>have been solving document processing problems for years to switch en
>masse to Pages (especially if they have invested heavily in other
Hmm. Tha's taking it a bit far. There are very good reasons for
_organizations_ to switch to Pages (ever used FrameMaker? Ugh!).
Here's a concrete example that all our .edu folks will understand:
Every year (at least in Canada and Australia) the last (3rd, 4th) year
science undergrads all write a small-ish thesis. The formatting is
usually uniformly atrocious, and, worst, the students spend WAY too
much time futzing with the formats and STILL not getting it right.
Hey, none of them has ever written a multi-chapter, cross-referenced,
tabled, figured, TOC'd document ever before. Pages solves that, and
lets these kids concentrate on the content. In that respect it's like
a weakling but GUI LaTeX: letting you separate content from design.
BUT.
No uni department is ever going to switch to NS just for Pages (as
opposed to just switching to Pages...).
IMHO: OpenStep on Windoze is coming, and will probably be here before
Pages' native Windoze product. Why not go the OpenStep route?
OpenStep won't cost all-that-much (bundles, anyone?), and noone has to
"switch" to anything "new" and "different". Plus, it's a good NextStep
trojan horse, which should keep Bruce and the rest of us happy.
And if not Pages (the company) then ITS should be actively pursuing
the OpenStep market. Peculiar that two companies could compete in the
same market with (almost) the same app, but the NextWorld* is a
strange place.
Dave
*(I'm sure someone still holds a copyright on this, but I don't give a
damn! ;-)
From: wenzel@s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame v3.2 for NEXTSTEP -- no upgrade fee necessary
Followup-To: comp.text.frame,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 24 Apr 1995 13:09:59 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3ng7v7$vv6@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3n1vs8$aag@sparkle.soltec.com> <3n8pu3$jis@sparkle.soltec.com>
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com) wrote:
> I think it's shameful that Lighthouse or Frame would want hundreds for
> what Frame has told me was only intended to be a re-compile under NS
> 3.2 to make Frame MAB. MAB compiled apps take so little effort on the
> part of the developer,
It took little effort to recompile FrameMaker 3. It took enormous work
to convince Frame to do so. Maybe we pay for that.
Concerning the upgrade licensing bug:
I don't vote for pirating software. But: there is a bug. Normally, in
many applications there are many bugs, and users suffer more or less
from these bugs. Here we found the first bug in history (?) a user might
benefit from. Software companies have no scruples leaving us with bad
bugs. But we shall ignore the "good bugs" due to moral reasons. Hmmm.
--
who? // Markus Wenzel
work? // 1st Institute of Physics, University of Stuttgart
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
else? // Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Date: 24 Apr 1995 12:15:48 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ng4pk$4eg@metro.atlanta.com>
References: <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
In article <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu> Peter Urka
<pcu@umich.edu> writes:
> In article: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com> William Paul Vrotney
> <vrotney@netcom.com >writes
>
> > > I am not a student and I am not a "commercial site." I am just an
> > I'm another like you and I suspect that there are many others. But if
> this
> > market does exist out there for NeXT how can that mass voice be heard
> by
>
> By putting it in a mass voice. Bundle 100 orders or so together, and
you
> will be heard. Are 100 people out there interested in the NEXTSTEP
> System Software Purchasing Co-op?
I'm in, if the price is reasonable!
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Date: 24 Apr 1995 14:26:08 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ngce0$q8e@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
In article <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu> Peter Urka
<pcu@umich.edu> writes:
> In article: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com> William Paul Vrotney
> <vrotney@netcom.com >writes
>
> By putting it in a mass voice. Bundle 100 orders or so together, and
> you
> will be heard. Are 100 people out there interested in the NEXTSTEP
> System Software Purchasing Co-op?
>
I'd be interested in joining a "NeXTSTEP System Software Upgrade
Purchasing Co-op"... Soon I'll be losing my student status, I'm afraid
that I'll be unable to upgrade to 4.0. 3.3 appears to be it for me. :(
- Steve
--
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 24 Apr 1995 13:58:43 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3ngaqj$2c5@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com> <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net> <3ng583$aj9@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
David A. Coyle (dcoyle@kakapo.mpi-hd.mpg.de) wrote:
: IMHO: OpenStep on Windoze is coming, and will probably be here before
: Pages' native Windoze product. Why not go the OpenStep route?
Because OpenStep will require more resources (i.e at least 24 MB RAM, local
bus video, 66MHz 486 or faster). And the OpenStep runtime probably isn't
going to be free. A native version of Pages could run on a much cheaper
system, and most likely it would be faster.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
rgc@cs.umd.edu
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
From: "Dave C. Morse" <dmorse@nod.mines.colorado.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep Video Conferencing
Date: 24 Apr 1995 16:34:59 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines - Test News Server
Message-ID: <3ngjvj$gso@magma.Mines.Colorado.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know where I can get some video conferencing software that
runs under NeXTStep. Also, I am looking for a voice recognition dictation
system under the same operating system. Please e-mail any suggestions.
Thanks.
--
David Cone Morse
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 24 Apr 1995 17:16:25 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ngmd9$3ga@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net>
In article <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net> ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net (Hadar
Pedhazur) writes:
> It is simplistic to look at Pages' retreat from the NS marketplace as
> a result of NeXT doing this or that
I knew this type of post from a NeXT-apologist would
be coming.
Don't worry NeXT-apologists, there are only a few
NEXTSTEP ISVs left to go out of business, so you won't
have to post these fantasies much longer.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Date: 24 Apr 1995 19:28:21 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.,
Message-ID: <3ngu4l$o8@sparkle.soltec.com>
References: <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk> <D7JAo8.Ho@AWT.NL>
robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk writes:
>IMHO: Caching shouldn't be the role of the browser.
G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda) writes:
>Well, I would agree (as I am running a caching proxy WWW server myself,
>which itself is using another proxy...).
I'm still learning all the issues involved, but so far I don't agree.
I think that this should be an option (turning on and off all cache
and setting the cache policies if it's turned on). This way everyone
is happy.
It seems a lot easier and a lot more convenient to me if users get
control over the caching such as what could be provided in the web
browser (for instance, putting limits on cached data like in Netscape,
and being able to force a flush of the cache at any time).
If the browser had no caching at all, and all the caching for the
machine were handled by some application or process that the user
running the browser could not control, how would the user flush the
cache or tell that application they don't want to make the cache grow?
When the cache is stored in memory or on /tmp, this situation could
come up since the disk would fill up and possibly cause the entire
machine to crash.
I think the controls provided in Netscape are a good idea (being able
to put a limit on the cache) and I suggest one enhancement--the limit
shouldn't be on the total cache, but on the amount that user adds to a
shared cache. This way, if the caching is in the browser, there is a
more intuitive GUI control and each user can set something they like
(anywhere from "add nothing to the cache--only read from the cache" to
"add everything to the cache" and all points in between).
I cross-posted to both since I'm not sure if this is (or rather,
should be) strictly a sysadmin issue or if this should be something
that users should be allowed to control for themselves.
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: save video frame from NeXt dimension?
Date: 24 Apr 1995 19:14:54 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3ngtbe$9sr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I would like to setup some script that captures a single video-frame from
a video-input to my NeXTdimension.
I can do that with mouse clicks from NeXT-TV but I would like to do it fro a
shell so that I can use it in connection to WWW.
Thanks,
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Beckman Institute, Physics Dept. UIUC
405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801,gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu, gmk@igc.apc.org,
gmk@santafe.edu, (217)-244-5877(voice),x5493(fax1),x8371(fax2), x1994 (msg)
URLs: http://www.ccsr.uiuc.edu/~gmk/, ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/gmk
From: hadar@amazon (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 24 Apr 1995 18:19:58 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ngq4e$h4o@ns2.ny.ubs.com>
References: <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net> <3ngmd9$3ga@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote:
: In article <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net> ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net (Hadar
: Pedhazur) writes:
: > It is simplistic to look at Pages' retreat from the NS marketplace as
: > a result of NeXT doing this or that
: I knew this type of post from a NeXT-apologist would
: be coming.
: Don't worry NeXT-apologists, there are only a few
: NEXTSTEP ISVs left to go out of business, so you won't
: have to post these fantasies much longer.
: --
: Nathan Janette
: Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
: Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
: Voice: 203 432 5065
: Fax: 203 432 3923
Touche! I am sure that Yale has bought *tons* of copies of Pages and so you
know first hand how revolutionary it is. I on the other hand own many of
copies of OpenWrite (for example) and a number of copies of FrameMaker.
Between them, the need for Pages is *squat*.
On the other hand, Pages was known as *the* thing for more than 2 years
before the slightest hint of OpenWrite from Xanthus. Interesting that the
*unhyped* product from the soft-spoken company continues to ship and
continues to be worked on (version 1.1 was announced recently with some
hints as to what is coming in v2.0).
NeXT-apologist indeed. More like Business Analysis 101. You're in school,
stop in at one of the courses when you get a sec.
--
Hadar Pedhazur
Global Equity Derivatives
Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
From: ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 24 Apr 1995 18:48:54 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <HADAR.95Apr24144854@uunet.uu.net>
References: <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net> <3ngmd9$3ga@news.ycc.yale.edu>
<3ngq4e$h4o@ns2.ny.ubs.com>
In-reply-to: hadar@amazon's message of 24 Apr 1995 18:19:58 GMT
Sorry, the prior post screwed up my return address (I temporarily switched
readers ...).
Back on track!
--
Hadar Pedhazur
Global Equity Derivatives
Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: UNIX-HatersTool.app : It doesn't work ! Why ?
Message-ID: <D7GCsw.4q7@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:58:08 GMT
Hi,
I'd really like to make UNIX-HatersTool.app work since it can do all that
I want. The only problem is that none of the options that are available
work, except the Diskspace !
I do have UUCP connections for both my mails and my news, but
UNIX-HatersTool.app shows nothing. Whenever I click on a button, either it
does nothing or it beeps.
I thought about doing something in the Preferences panel to fix that, but
in the Info menu, Preferences is grayed out so I can't use that either.
And yes, I am using it as root.
Can anyone help ? Please e-mail me directly your answers. I'll post a
summary later on.
Thanks
---
Dr. Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
From: root@cnw (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any good CD-player for plain SCSI-drives
Date: 24 Apr 1995 18:53:05 GMT
Organization: Symbios Logic
Message-ID: <3ngs2h$1l9@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM>
References: <3mjffe$jna@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
alxs@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Sparkowsky) wrote:
>High,
>is there any GOOD CDPlayer-tool for any SCSI-CD-ROM-drive?
3.3 has a good one. Actually, if you stick in an audio CD, it will
auto-launch. thomas
>--
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Alxeander Sparkowsky E-Mail: alxs@cs.tu-berlin.de
>10559 Berlin, Germany alxs@klex.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de
<NeXTMail welcome>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: Soft-PC Printing to Preview
Message-ID: <D7K1Iv.16F@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Insignia Solutions Ltd
References: <1995Apr23.200606.539@weston.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:44:54 GMT
In article <1995Apr23.200606.539@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes
Spears) writes:
> Is there a way to have Soft-PC print and have the output go to
preview.
> The need is as follow. One of my users has printshop on which they
like
> to build FAXes with borders and other stuff. They have SoftPC, but
NXFax
> locks the modem, so that it can not be used by SoftPC. Thus, if I can
go
> to preview, they can then FAX it from NEXTSTEP. Any thoughts?
>
This can be done by makeing a shellscript as follows:
/LocalApps/SoftPC.app/PS >/tmp/xxx.ps
open /tmp/xxx.ps
and selecting the pipe option for lpt1 in Info/Preferences. Direct the
pipe to the script, and all will be well.
The preview will not appear until lpt1 is flushed. This can be done
either using the autoflush option, or manually.
OK - the script needs a little refinement, but you get the idea...
Ian
From: tappd@neosoft.com (Dan Tapp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X under NS 3.2 (Intel)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 15:37:30 -700
Organization: EOTT
Message-ID: <3nh21m$flb@uuneo.neosoft.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi all,
We need to give our folks access to some Windoze OA shtuff from their
NS 3.2 desktops. We're looking at X'ing into a Windows NT Advanced server via
Tektronix' new WinDD program.
My latest copy of the 3rd-party software only listed two X kits for NS that
are still in business: C-Xist, and Cub'X. We tried the first one, and it was
unbearably slow on screen redraws. We got a copy of Cub'x in, and are pretty
impressed with the speed. But it has some keyboard mapping issues on a 101-
or 102-style keyboard that are going to bite us if we try to roll it out.
Some of the Alt- and Control- keys don't make it across the stream; also, the
little cluster of PgUp/PgDn/etc. keys is completely disabled.
Have we missed a decent X package somewhere that's likely to give us the best
of everything?
Thanks & regards,
- Dan
From: samurai@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Date: 24 Apr 1995 20:03:51 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill Univ.
Message-ID: <SAMURAI.95Apr24160351@maggie.cs.mcgill.ca>
References: <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk> <3nbfoh$a3h@aragorn.unibe.ch>
<1995Apr22.224842.5333@news.media.mit.edu>
<950423153947.982AACUQ.malc@daneel> <3neikr$i1m@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In-reply-to: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu's message of 23 Apr 1995 21:59:55 GMT
<indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:
>mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
>>>Hah. I have a machine with 192MB of memory, and several hundred
>>>MB of swap, and lately, as I've been working on my dissertation
>>>(which is written in HTML, and, due to committee requests, is one
>>>HTML file per chapter), I have to reboot *that* machine several
>>>times a day. The combination of OmniImage and OmniWeb are real
>>>pigs when you do cmd-u alot...
>>>
>>I've been wondering if there might actually be a memory leak in
>>OmniImage...? Things seemed to get a lot worse after I upgraded to the
>>latest version. On the other hand maybe it's just my imagination. Anyone
>>from Omni care to comment?
>Hmmm...OK, I wasn't going to say too much until i was sure it wasn't
>something else, but I experienced all the symptoms of a catastrophic
>memory leak that I suspect was due to OmniImageFilter (latest version.)
>The system involved was a ND Turbo Cube 32/48/2.1GB with a 400MB swapdisk.
>It itermittantly locked up rock-hard during editng and layout sessions.
>I sent in a bug report to Omni.
Wel, my solution is to get ImageViewer and SpiderWoman. I've never had a
problem, and the guys at Sente tend to implement suggestions in the 5 to
10 day turnaround period. Quite impressive...
- db
ftp://sente.epfl.ch/pub/software/SW/SpiderWoman.app.NIHS.tar.gz
You can also send email to swoman@sente.epfl.ch if you wish to receive
SpiderWoman by NeXTMail.
--
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops. -- Veruca Salt -- Baldric, you
wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on
top of a harpsichord singing, "Subtle Plans Are Here Again" -- Atkinson --
The Lord loves a hanging, that's why he gave us necks! -- Hoek and Cat --
From: rhs@Corp.Sun.COM (Randall Stille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for X And Web Browser For 040 cube
Date: 24 Apr 1995 21:28:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nh562$48e@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Looking for a public version of X and a Web browser for
a 040 cube running v2.1. I've tried XNeXT, but I have
a NeXTDimension card and XNeXT is not supported on this
device.
From: radium@fox.nstn.ca (RADium Technology Centre (Canada))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .snd, .au, and .wav player?
Date: 24 Apr 1995 19:37:21 -0300
Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network
Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <radium.3.00139526@fox.nstn.ca>
References: <3md3if$4ls@xpat.postech.ac.kr> <3mf1qh$ct1@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
In article <3mf1qh$ct1@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes:
>In article <3md3if$4ls@xpat.postech.ac.kr> ycyang@archer.postech.ac.kr
>(Y.C.Yang) writes:
>] I am using Sound.app to play *.snd files. But it can't play *.au or *.wav
>files.
>] Is there any app. that can play those files in NeXT machine?
>] please give me informations about that(file names and ftp sites)
>] thank you in advance.
Try GISO.app. It converts many sound formats to/from NeXT .snd, including
.au, .wav, etc. The file is:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/sound/GISO.MAB.v3.3.tar.gz
This should do what you need.
Stephen MacDougall
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From: ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Elliott Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Date: 25 Apr 1995 00:27:16 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nhfl4$acn@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com> <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us> <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
Peter Urka (pcu@umich.edu) wrote:
: By putting it in a mass voice. Bundle 100 orders or so together, and you
: will be heard. Are 100 people out there interested in the NEXTSTEP
: System Software Purchasing Co-op?
This could be one of those things that snowballs into mythical, if
unrealized, proportions.
Count me in.
--
# Sean Russell | "It's like the first time you had sex.
# ser@cs.uoregon.edu | Sometimes you have to look up and ask:
# www.cs.uoregon.edu:80/~ser | 'Daddy, is this right?'"
# Finger Me for PGP Key | --- Tank Girl
From: Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 00:39:06 GMT
Organization: Squirrel Bin
Sender: preston@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25Apr0039060321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <3ng4pk$4eg@metro.atlanta.com> <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
In article: <3ng4pk$4eg@metro.atlanta.com> Joseph K. Vossen
<jkv@sware.com >writes
> In article <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu> Peter Urka
> <pcu@umich.edu> writes:
> > will be heard. Are 100 people out there interested in the NEXTSTEP
> > System Software Purchasing Co-op?
> I'm in, if the price is reasonable!
Well Joe, you've certainly given Ernie and I a great boost of enthusiasm
to organize this thing when NS 4.0 comes out. With such a ringing need
that you have, I'll be sure to put you on the top of the list next year,
or whenever 4.0 is sold.
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
Newt-thought is right-thought. Go Newt!
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for X And Web Browser For 040 cube
Date: 25 Apr 1995 00:15:44 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3nhevg$50a@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3nh562$48e@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
rhs@Corp.Sun.COM (Randall Stille) writes:
>Looking for a public version of X and a Web browser for
>a 040 cube running v2.1. I've tried XNeXT, but I have
>a NeXTDimension card and XNeXT is not supported on this
>device.
If you upgrade to 3.x, you can use the excellent NEXTSTEP-based
OmniWeb web browser.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-8833
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT's Renderman vs. SGI's OpenGL for 3-D
Date: 25 Apr 1995 00:45:11 -0400
Organization: Duke University, Durham, N.C.
Message-ID: <3nhuon$ktt@news.duke.edu>
I would appreciate comments from anyone who has used both
SGI's GL and Pixar's Renderman for 3-D graphics.
I have written 3-D animation software in C (simulations of
ripple formation on sand dunes) on SGI
machines using SGI's GL library, and found GL to be
incredibly simple to use. I know nothing about Renderman.
I would like to write similar programs in NEXTSTEP, and
understand that NEXTSTEP uses Renderman as its 3-D graphics
standard.
If anyone out there is Cyberspace has had experience using
both, please drop me a note about the relative ease and
power of these two graphics standards.
Thanks,
Lee Altenberg
altenber@mhpcc.edu
From: matthias.3@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karl N. Matthias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages vs. FrameMaker
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 15:28:39 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <matthias.3.56.2F9BC3A7@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Has any one here used both of these products? I have heard different things
from different people. I understand from one person that Frame is the
be-all-end-all of DTP but then I remembered Pages and asked another guy about
it and he said it is way better than Frame for anything but book publihing.
Can any one make any of this a little clearer? I am interested in purchasing
a used verison of one of these packages for my NeXTstation and I want to know
whaich is better all around. Thanks for your input.
Karl
Newsgroups: biz.next.newprod,comp.sys.next.software
From: saty@next2.togliatti.su (S.A. TsYbanov)
Subject: IP Security for the NeXT computers.
Message-ID: <D7Kwp1.J4F@ladem.tlt.ru>
Sender: usenet@ladem.tlt.ru (Mr. Usenet)
Organization: JV Ladem
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 06:58:13 GMT
Hi !
Do you want to protect you NeXT computer against evil attacks from
the global Internet ?
All you need is the IP Security system for the NeXT computters.
Application instricts the access of local users to the local or wide
Internet and vise versa. Different local users can have a different
access to the network. Different remote hosts can have a different
access to the IP resources of your local computer.
Also the statistics daemon print a information about all network
operations to the terminal window.
You can take the demo version from the following sites:
ftp://next2.togliatti.su/pub/IP_Security/next/IP_Security_NeXT_hw.1.t
ar.Z
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/submissions/IP_Security_NeXT_hw.1
tar.Z
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: Web browser with graphics for the NeXT??
Message-ID: <D7L1G8.Gp@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home. (A NUGI member)
References: <3n27c5$b40@sparkle.soltec.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:40:56 GMT
In article <3n27c5$b40@sparkle.soltec.com> jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com
(J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) writes:
> >Wait for NetSurfer... It is pretty good.
>
> Definately wait for Netsurfer. It has more to offer than other
> web-only browsers because it also has a nicer FTP front-end and
> nicer overall Internet interface.
Can it be simpler then having a "Workspace Like" browser for a certain
FTP site and dragging the wanted files over to the filesystem ???
SpiderWoman does quite a good job here IMHO.
Aloha
Tomi
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Neptunstr. 9
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Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <D7KzLq.2FC@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com> <3nb9dn$3t8@redstone.interpath.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 08:01:02 GMT
In article <3nb9dn$3t8@redstone.interpath.net>,
paradigm@mercury.interpath.net says...
>
>Keep going NeXT, you will end of like to Beta format Sony had...best
>product format + no marketing effort/cooperation = no product.
I always thought that Beta was reasonably succeful for a time. Video2000
however was widely acclaimed to be technically superiour to both Beta and
VHS, but had almost no "software" available and lost out as a mass market
produkt. Of course, Beta did too, later.
DAT drives failed as a mass market audio produkt. It is now used mainly by
professionals and for data storage. With funny consequences (like flat rates on
MiniDisc and DCC for audio copyright (Dfl 0.65/hour) and no such rate on DAT,
at least here in The Netherlands)
But that is another thread alltogether.
--Gerben
From: reichman@alcor.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 25 Apr 1995 02:53:53 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@alcor.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu>
Summary: Would anyone care to offer opinions about these two products?
Keywords: wordprocessor
I currently own WriteUp, but after reading in comp.sys.next.announce about OpenWrite's funcitonability it is clear that OW is a more mature product than WU. On the other hand WU is promising to gain that kind of file conversion and complexity in next release. In OW release OW is purportedly 600% faster - what does that mean -- WU's screen refresh and other stuff is not so fast.
Comments, please. I need to have a top flight and inter-os wordprocessor asap.
Thanks -
Matthew
--
"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame Maker info
Date: 25 Apr 1995 09:46:56 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3nigeg$gul@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <nyacg-1804951351180001@dyn018.slip.iglou.com>
Robert E Tucker (nyacg@iglou.com) wrote:
: I just purchased a Black box and I have a new Frame Maker for NeXTStep
: license(1 seat), I have the program and all the documentation. Has anyone
It's my favorite Wordprocessor and I do all my Documents with it which I
can't do with Edit
Otto
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: using NeXTSTEP as a firewall??
Date: 25 Apr 1995 10:12:08 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3nihto$k03@metro.atlanta.com>
With all of the connections to the internet being added everyday, a lot of
companies are putting firewalls in place to protect their corporate
network. I realize that it might be considered a waste of a good
gui-based system for this [and that there are more specialized systems out
there to perform this task], but has anyone considered using a
NeXTSTEP-based system for a firewall? If you considered this and are
using it, what changes did you have to make? If you considered this and
used something else, I would be interested in knowing why.
The reason I am interested is that we have some extra cubes laying around
and someone suggested we use them as a firewall and someone else said that
was a bad idea for various reasons. I was just curious to see if anyone
in netland actually tried this.
thanks
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Date: 25 Apr 1995 09:53:55 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3nigrj$jp8@metro.atlanta.com>
References: <25Apr0039060321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
In article <25Apr0039060321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu> Peter Urka
<pcu@umich.edu> writes:
> In article: <3ng4pk$4eg@metro.atlanta.com> Joseph K. Vossen
> <jkv@sware.com >writes
> > In article <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu> Peter Urka
> > <pcu@umich.edu> writes:
> > > will be heard. Are 100 people out there interested in the NEXTSTEP
> > > System Software Purchasing Co-op?
>
> > I'm in, if the price is reasonable!
>
> Well Joe, you've certainly given Ernie and I a great boost of enthusiasm
> to organize this thing when NS 4.0 comes out. With such a ringing need
> that you have, I'll be sure to put you on the top of the list next year,
> or whenever 4.0 is sold.
>
I hope you are not being obnoxious; you asked if anyone is interested and
I responded that I am. I assumed you where just looking to see if the
numbers are present in order to meet critical mass to get this thing off
the ground. If you have a need to know why I want it or what I think is
reasonable, then I'll wait unitl you get your 100 people and will let you
know.
If you want me to be counted toward your 100, I'm in; if you are not
interested in my participation, let me know and I will not bother with it
anymore.
If you want to reply to this, please do so with e-mail; we have burned
enough bandwidth on this already.
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
From: gclem@dannug.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUMMMARY: IconBuilder transparent icons
Date: 25 Apr 1995 10:08:34 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nihn2$4b0@snaps.dannug.dk>
References: <1995Apr20.092855@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
Keywords: icons
I can recommend IconMaker from BlueSky Software for creating icons.
Geert
From: hadar@nic.cerf.net (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 25 Apr 1995 12:09:11 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3niop8$kpv@news.cerf.net>
References: <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net> <3ngmd9$3ga@news.ycc.yale.edu> <HADAR.95Apr24144854@uunet.uu.net>
Hadar Pedhazur (ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net) wrote:
: Sorry, the prior post screwed up my return address (I temporarily switched
: readers ...).
: Back on track!
: --
: Hadar Pedhazur
: Global Equity Derivatives
: Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
Oh well, the post that caused me to send the above post never made it
out I guess. I didn't save the original so I guess that the sheer
brilliance of it will be lost forever. Here goes a paraphrase:
To Nathan from Yale re: NeXT-apologists:
Touche! You got me. Here I stand defending every one of NeXTs actions.
If you recall, this discussion was about Pages, and what *they* might
have done to cause their *own* retreat? I wonder how many copies of
Pages Yale has purchased to help keep them in business?
I for one own *many* copies of OpenWrite from Xanthus. I own fewer
copies of FrameMaker. Between the two, the need (or desire) for Pages
is exactly *squat*. I find it interesting that Pages, which was hyped
for *years* before seeing the light of day is leaving the market, but
OpenWrite, which was completely unheard of during the entire Pages
hype, has just yesterday announced a major upgrade (*free*) yesterday,
and has disclosed some of the feature set in the upcoming 2.0 release!
Do you not see the irony that the quiet, solid, multi-product,
longstanding NeXT ISV, Xanthus, continues to produce quality products
and finds some way to survive and sell into this marketplace, but
Pages, the *loud*, *no* product (at the time of their hype) company
is disappointed with the economics of selling into this marketplace?
NeXT-apologist indeed!!! Since you happen to be in school anyway,
(System Manager or otherwise), I suggest you stop by any Business
course, (I am sure that any 101 section would do!), and find out why
Pages shot themselves in the foot, and regardless of NeXT's comings
and goings, they were not going to succeed.
If the point is still lost on you, I strongly suggest that you never
start your *own* business, as you are likely to blame someone else
for your inevitable failure!
Finally, while I seriously *do* wish Bruce and Pages well in
their new endeavor (I have nothing against poor business people :-)),
time will tell whether they were not good enough business people to
survive in the difficult NeXT market (another opportunity for a :-)),
or whether they are simply bad business people.
From: Zijian Huang <zijian.huang@ncl.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: typing tutor KP, freeware
Date: 25 Apr 1995 12:03:00 GMT
Organization: Newcastle University
Message-ID: <3niodk$4ad@whitbeck.ncl.ac.uk>
Freeware typing tutor KP for you and your friends or student.
To everyone who can not type:
You may not bother to learn to type. Maybe you enjoy sitting upon your computer and
typing. Maybe you like to do much eyes and neck exercises to keep fit your eyes and
neck. How many time have you spend on typing your document? How many time will
you spend more? No time to learn to type, but much time to type slowly, this is the
philosopher of fact.
Here is a typing tutor KP available to learner and teacher. Free, from ftp site.
KP is a typing tutor for DOS. KP have its own style to help you or your student to
learn to type. It contains a virtual keyboard and palms to help you not look at the
keyboard while you learn. And you have more freedom to choose the example text.
Now you just can go to that ftp site, and get it.
It is a free ware, no charge for any individual user, just get it free, keep it free,
distribute to other individual users free. KP was written by me.
Just get it for yourself or your friends.
How to access the ftp site and get KP?
You could access it anonymously:
================================================
ftp ftp.ncl.aC.uk
user name->anonymous
passwd->[your e-mail name]
cd /pub/local/n4521661
================================================
Here is an example of accessing your directory on ftp.ncl.ac.uk:
ftp
>open ftp.ncl.ac.uk
Connected to tuda.ncl.ac.uk.
220 tuda FTP server (Version wu-2.4(4) Fri Apr 22 15:04:35 BST 1994) ready.
Name (ftp.ncl.ac.uk:root): anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
Password:
230-
230-***************************************************************************
230-* *
230-* This is the newcastle ftp archive. It is now running the Wuarchive ftp *
230-* daemon, which means that compressed downloads, etc are supported. *
230-* If your ftp client is having trouble, try a password starting with '-'. *
230-* *
230-* You must have an appropriate entry in the DNS. *
230-* *
230-* Please report any problems to "postmaster@newcastle.ac.uk." *
230-* *
230-***************************************************************************
230-
230-
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> cd /pub/local/n4521661
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> ls
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.
kp.exe
kp.cfg
kp.bat
kp.txt
readme.kp
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> bin
ftp> mget kp*.*
......
ftp> bye
221 Goodbye.
if 'mget' command don't work in your network, try 'get'. Remember to
use 'bin' command first before you get non-ascii files.
please get all 5 KP files, and then you could run kp for a while then
read user manual 'readme.kp' for bother student and teacher.
KP is freeware on typing tutor. It is not a replacement of other powerful
or popular typing tutor, but may be another choice that give you another feeling,
It is my pleasure to see you to learn to type and later type quickly
and save your time.
Any comment and opinion please sent e-mail to me.
zijian.huang@ncl.ac.uk
From: schaub@tam2000.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 25 Apr 1995 13:24:39 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <3nit6n$754@news.tamu.edu>
References: <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu>
Matthew Nathaniel Reichman (reichman@alcor.usc.edu) wrote:
: I currently own WriteUp, but after reading in comp.sys.next.announce about
: OpenWrite's funcitonability it is clear that OW is a more mature product
: than WU. On the other hand WU is promising to gain that kind of file
: conversion and complexity in next release. In OW release OW is purportedly
: 600% faster - what does that mean -- WU's screen refresh and other stuff
: is not so fast.
Give the new WriteUp1.2 a good look. It should be out real soon. I believe
if you do a complete feature to feature comparison, you will find that
WriteUp will have stuff that are promised in OpenWrite2.0, and vice versa
OpenWrite1.1 has stuff that is promised in the next WriteUp version soon.
Look at what you really need now, and what they BOTH promise with another
release rather soon. Personally, I'm sticking with WriteUp. I have been
extremely happy with its user-interface, its functionality, and the
outstanding support of AFS, the creators of WriteUp. Especially testing the
new beta of WriteUp1.2. It looks like a real winner to me.
Disclaimer: I am not associated with AFS, nor do I speak for
them, I am just a "satisfied customer."
Blue Skies,
HP
schaub@tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <D7JpDH.2H2@pages.com>
Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
References: <D7JBy4.Jx@AWT.NL>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 15:22:29 GMT
In article <D7JBy4.Jx@AWT.NL> G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda) writes:
> In article <D7GEMG.2BG@RnA.NL>, Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL says...
> >
> >In article <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com> bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
writes:
> >
> >[Pages quits]
>
> This is a decision that was not taken yesterday. You don't take
> decisions like these lightly and they take some time. I feel a
> bit cheated in that this comes so short after the WebPages release
> and me buying the upgrade. At that point they probably knew that
> this was (likely) going to happen.
>
Actually, you're wrong. The final decision was made quite literally during
the few days between Internet World (April 10-12) and WebWorld (April
19-21). Prior to that, we kept looking for ways to keep our NEXTSTEP
business going while moving ahead full speed with Windows development. Had
we made the decision sooner, we certainly would have announced it at
Internet World.
> Either WebPages is viable as a product or it is not. Transferring
> it to another company doesn't change that (makes it even less
> viable, normally).
The issue isn't WebPages viability--it's whether the income from WebPages
(and Pages) can support, by itself, a company that is also attempting
Windows development--and conversely, whether we could support the NEXTSTEP
development required to keep WebPages moving forward (such as a design
model toolkit). The answer is no.
On the other hand, IT Solutions is already profitable _and_ is building a
business out of providing Web authoring solutions (such as the Neticity
Workstation, which comes with WebPages bundled). Ted Shelton at ITS came
up with the idea of acquiring WebPages on his own literally at the same
time we did.
> I don't know if I would have bought the upgrade
> (probably not) if I had known that Pages would quit. I wouldn't
> have bought Pages at all if I had known at that time that the
> Design Model Development Kit would be an empty promise.
>
We do offer an unconditional money-back guarantee. If you really are
unhappy, just delete all the software you got for the upgrade and contact
us for a refund. I appreciate and understand your disappointment; I assure
you that it's no greater than mine. ..bruce..
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce F. Webster | Progress, far from consisting in change,
CTO, Pages Software Inc | depends on retentiveness. Those who cannot
bwebster@pages.com | remember the past are condemned to fulfil
http://www.pages.com | it. -- George Santayana
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <D7K86s.Bn@pages.com>
Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
References: <3ngq4e$h4o@ns2.ny.ubs.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 22:08:51 GMT
In article <3ngq4e$h4o@ns2.ny.ubs.com> hadar@amazon (Hadar Pedhazur)
writes:
>
> On the other hand, Pages was known as *the* thing for more than
> 2 years before the slightest hint of OpenWrite from Xanthus.
> Interesting that the *unhyped* product from the soft-spoken
> company continues to ship and continues to be worked on (version
> 1.1 was announced recently with some hints as to what is coming
> in v2.0).
>
I'm curious at the comparison. We shipped version 1.0 of Pages in March of
1994, 1.03 (bug fixes) in May, 1.5 (major UI changes, MailMerge, enhanced
filters) in October, 1.6 (Pages Remote Objects API) in November, and 1.7
(WebPages and 14 HTML design models) in February of 1995. I'm not sure
there's any document processor on any platform that has a record for
upgrades and development like that. The reason: the investment we made in
the underlying architecture. As to whether it was worth it, that's another
question, though one that's moot now. :-) ..bruce..
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce F. Webster | To be nameless in worthy deeds exceeds
CTO, Pages Software Inc | an infamous history.
bwebster@pages.com | -- Sir Thomas Browne
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 25 Apr 1995 14:08:01 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3nivo1$ppc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu>
In article <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu> reichman@alcor.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel
Reichman) writes:
> I currently own WriteUp, but after reading in comp.sys.next.announce about
OpenWrite's funcitonability it is clear that OW is a more mature product than
WU. On the other hand WU is promising to gain that kind of file conversion and
complexity in next release. In OW release OW is purportedly 600% faster - what
does that mean -- WU's screen refresh and other stuff is not so fast.
>
> Comments, please. I need to have a top flight and inter-os wordprocessor
asap.
>
Hi.
I've been using OpenWrite for a while now. We went with it over WriteUp
because of the features (particularly the ability to read and write
MacWord documents). Object linking is nice, and it works smoothly with
EquationBuilder, unlike the WriteUp demo we tried. Unfortunately,
OpenWrite is SSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW. I usually type a sentence
or two ahead of the screen update, periodically pausing to let it catch
up, when I need to edit something. I hope 600% is enough improvement
and I hope all 600% is in screen speed. Also, the MacWord import
completely bombs on figures and tables. Again, this upgrade promises
improvement in this regard and I hope it succeeds.
Robert
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Date: 23 Apr 1995 16:00:10 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ndtia$jun@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com> <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us> <22Apr2119040321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
Peter Urka (pcu@umich.edu) wrote:
: By putting it in a mass voice. Bundle 100 orders or so together, and you
: will be heard. Are 100 people out there interested in the NEXTSTEP
: System Software Purchasing Co-op?
Yes. Put me down for one copy of Developer 3.3 and EOF 1.1. If we
can get a bulk deal by banding together, I'll be able to get it about
five years sooner than I anticipated.
P.S. I heard that the expected price for Mecca will be $10,000 without
development tools, and $100,000 with the tools. Is this true? ;-)
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: recording NeXT-sessions
Date: 25 Apr 1995 14:23:55 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3nj0lr$sm@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hallo,
centuries ago I heard of a NeXTStep-App to record (and replay) sessions on
a Next (sound and screen activities), but have forgotten its name. So
could someone tell me the name of this application abd where I can get it.
Thanks in advance.
Robert
--
Robert Mueller Tel. 06131/17 20 22
Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik
und Dokumentation, Universitaetskliniken Mainz
55101 Mainz, Germany
(email: mueller@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing sug
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 25 Apr 95 11:40:50 GMT
Message-ID: <17495114.42050.2071@kcbbs.gen.nz>
References: <25Apr0039060321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
> Well Joe, you've certainly given Ernie and I a great boost of enthusiasm
> to organize this thing when NS 4.0 comes out. With such a ringing need
> that you have, I'll be sure to put you on the top of the list next year,
> or whenever 4.0 is sold.
I can only see this thing getting messy when 100 people have to pay?
Not to mention risky. I'm under academic prices so am not going to hurt
for now, but really?
I don't see the point? NeXT could be gathering up a userbase, helping
you people and getting revenue... it makes sense doesn't it?
Even if licences banned commercial development, many home users/small
PD/shareware developers would be delighted.
Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
From: marchese.5@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (dominic marchese)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Screensaver software
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:04:31 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <marchese.5.22.2F9D0F7F@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Please Help:
I am looking for a screensaver software that will allow me to input various
phares and randomly as the screensaver turns on will throw those phrases
on screen at various intervals. What I am looking for is exaclty the same
as the module in AfterDark called "Nonsense," however, Nonsese does not
allow me to input my own phrases. If anyone has information, or knows of a
program that will allow me to do this please e-mail me at:
marchese.5@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu
Thank you,
Dominic Marchese
From: dcoyle@kakapo.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Doom2 A & keyboard control, HOW?
Date: 25 Apr 1995 16:41:44 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3nj8o8$7oe@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3n9d6k$q2m@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) wrote:
>I just got the new Doom2 and it looks nice, but I only can move
around with the
>mouse, and cant fire or anything...
Lucky you, I can't get it to run at all on my HPs, even switching to
8-bit color didn't help.
Brief glimpse of all-black window followed by instant death and this
on the console:
Running with fixed scheduling policy for extra speed.
framebuffer encoding: PPPPPPPP
bitsPerSample: 8 bitsPerPixel: 8
Apr 25 18:42:42 kakapo WindowServer[202]: Interceptor:
error in receiving app notification reply (timed out)
From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Lynx
Date: 25 Apr 1995 17:31:53 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3njbm9$sp4@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Is Lynx available for NS/black. Is it free? Where can I get it?
Thanks, Otto
From: ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 25 Apr 1995 17:48:56 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site
Message-ID: <HADAR.95Apr25134856@uunet.uu.net>
References: <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu> <3nivo1$ppc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In-reply-to: robert@amo.mit.edu's message of 25 Apr 1995 14:08:01 GMT
In article <3nivo1$ppc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes:
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From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 25 Apr 1995 14:08:01 GMT
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In article <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu> reichman@alcor.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel
Reichman) writes:
> I currently own WriteUp, but after reading in comp.sys.next.announce about
OpenWrite's funcitonability it is clear that OW is a more mature product than
WU. On the other hand WU is promising to gain that kind of file conversion and
complexity in next release. In OW release OW is purportedly 600% faster - what
does that mean -- WU's screen refresh and other stuff is not so fast.
>
> Comments, please. I need to have a top flight and inter-os wordprocessor
asap.
>
Hi.
I've been using OpenWrite for a while now. We went with it over WriteUp
because of the features (particularly the ability to read and write
MacWord documents). Object linking is nice, and it works smoothly with
EquationBuilder, unlike the WriteUp demo we tried. Unfortunately,
OpenWrite is SSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW. I usually type a sentence
or two ahead of the screen update, periodically pausing to let it catch
up, when I need to edit something. I hope 600% is enough improvement
and I hope all 600% is in screen speed. Also, the MacWord import
completely bombs on figures and tables. Again, this upgrade promises
improvement in this regard and I hope it succeeds.
Robert
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
We have been using OpenWrite for quite some time now. The 600% is real and it
is in Screen oriented operations. You can check it out for yourself using
the demo of Beta 1.1 on ftp.cs.orst.edu. As announced yesterday, they will be
shipping the production version in May.
Every release brings with it more functionality and greater speed. Xanthus is
extremely responsive to *all* suggestions, including dumb ones (in other words,
they don't just ignore them, but explain better ways to accomplish a task).
For my money (literally!), it is an ISV that is a pleasure to deal with.
--
Hadar Pedhazur
Global Equity Derivatives
Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any Qtime movie players for a ND system?
Date: 25 Apr 1995 18:18:39 +0100
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3njatf$fec@davinci.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi all, I have been reading about how slow NEXTIME was on a NeXTDimension
system, and today I have seen it :(
I am wondering if there are any other, preferably free or shareware
utilities that give acceptable performance whilst playing Quicktime movies
on a ND system, maybe by reducing the colour depth, etc.
Alternatively, is there a way of tricking NEXTIME into reducing the colour
depth of the movie or speeding it up by any other way? I'd like to view
some Quicktime movies, but NEXTIME is sooo sloow.
Thanks,
Eren
propose a third tier.
>I am not a student and I am not a "commercial site." I am just an
>individual who happened to like NEXTSTEP enough to be willing to buy it.
>Now I am faced with the costs of buying/upgrading software packages at
>commercial rates. I can't afford it. (Yea, I know -- Too Bad!)
>If there is any interest out there in keeping people like me using
>NEXTSTEP and related products, how about providing a break point between
>student and commercial where we can participate without going broke?
>--
>Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
>rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
>There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
>please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
>the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
The problem with this whole idea is that youe are trying to support a company
who will not support YOU. Their $2000 price tag is absolutely ridiculous
compared to Windows NT or even Solaris / Unixware. And their $299 price tag
from 3.2 to 3.3 is should have been a courtesy patch given out to users.
Although I am an owner of a Full ND system, I hate to say it but I have really
lost respect for NeXT as a company. If they don't get off their high horses
soon and show the public that NeXTStep is the greatest OS in the world, they
are going to have a great OS, and only die hard techies like us working on it.
My $0.02
Darren
From: Wil Gayle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Perl5
Date: 25 Apr 1995 17:20:54 GMT
Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems
Message-ID: <3njb1m$fh8@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
Where can I find Perl5 for NS3.2 and 3.3?
--
Regards,
Wil Gayle
!nterprise Networking Services
U S West Communications
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <a-gain.hanse.de!stefan@ccwnoc.hanse.de>
Message-ID: <m0s3RcV-000btOC@a-gain>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 18:08:21 +0100
Subject: DPS on PC?? / Display PostScript for Windoze
Cc: stanford@aostra.cuug.ab.ca
Curtis Stanford of Alberta Energy wrote:
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
> From: stanford@aostra.uucp (Curtis Stanford)
> Subject: DPS on PC??
> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 20:37:12 GMT
>
> Does anyone know of a product for a PC running Windoze that
> would act as a Display PostScript server so that a program
> running on NeXTSTEP could display on Windoze?? Any help
> is appreciated.
>
> ===============================================================
> Curtis Stanford VOICE: (403) 297-3623
> Alberta Energy FAX: (403) 297-3638
> Oil Sands Research Division EMAIL: stanford@aostra.cuug.ab.ca
> 1800, 700 - 4 Avenue S.W.
> Calgary, Alberta, CANADA
> T2P 3J4
> ===============================================================
Hi there Curtis!
ITs OPENSTEP fW you've been looking for!
I've seen it at the little NeXT-presentation of a pre-beta release
of OpenStep for Windows (NT, later 95) on the CeBIT-fair 95 in
Hannover in March.
Its pretty neat, first you have to start the mach-kernel on Windows,
its represented by a pair of handshaking hands, then you'll have to
start the DisplayPostScript-driver, represented by a NeXT-symbol.
After these two steps, you are able to run a recompiled version of
Edit or Draw.
I was being told, that beta-testing will be in the fall of 95 and
Users will be satisfied in early 96.
Greetings = | : - )
from Stefan
Stefan Huelf
Arnold-Heise-Strasse 10
20249 Hamburg / Germany
voice + 49 - 40 - 480 79 19
fax + 49 - 40 - 480 11 92
stefan@a-gain.hanse.de
( NeXTmail favorized / MIME o.k.! )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: drspud@netcom.com (Tammi Chambers)
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <drspudD7Lpv2.Cn2@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com> <D7GEMG.2BG@RnA.NL>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:28:14 GMT
Sender: drspud@netcom5.netcom.com
Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL wrote:
: In article <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com> bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster) writes:
: [Pages quits]
: This is a decision that was not taken yesterday. You don't take decisions like
: these lightly and they take some time. I feel a bit cheated in that this comes
: so short after the WebPages release and me buying the upgrade. At that point
: they probably knew that this was (likely) going to happen.
This is really an unfair remark. The decision to do this came from the
people who own Pages (the venture capitalists) and not the technical
staff. If you need to blame someone, blame them. To the credit of the
folks at Pages, they really tried to make it work longer than they
probably should have. The WebPages product was thier last best hope to
stay on the platform. But lo and behold, the community did not support
them in the only way that matters... With $$$. If you are looking for
someone to be angry at, don't look at Pages.
drspud
From: premise@pluto.eecs.umich.edu (Sean Willson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 25 Apr 1995 19:33:44 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <3njiqo$lg5@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <140470666wnr@hps1.demon.co.uk>
In article <140470666wnr@hps1.demon.co.uk> andy@hps1.demon.co.uk (Andy
Robinson) writes:
[MUNCH]
> I'm a newbie. Can someone fill me in on something basic and
> very important:
>
> Is the usage of NextStep actually falling, or has it just not
> grown as quickly as you would all like?
You will probably get a lot of different comments on this posting,
some will tell you NeXT is going under, some will tell you it is
a god send. I stand about 3/4 of the way to the second viewpoint.
I will admit, as will many others that NeXT Computer has made some
really bad business and marketing choices in the past. And as long
as a visionary is the head of any company, that company will make
those bad choices, call it business. Now, to answer your question,
in my personal usage, I have seen the usage increasing BUT a lot
slower than I would like.
> Same question for the number of applications available.
On to question number 2....this question in a lot of ways depends on
your view point on what is better. What I mean is, would you rather
have a windows market where there are zillions of spreadsheets and
word processing application with a couple of powerful tools, OR would
you be more interested in a few spreadsheets and word processors with
all of those cool tools. I prefer the second again, just call me
crazy. You will probably get a few responses saying NeXTStep is too
expensive, I will admit it is pricey, but check this. If you go to
windows and buy into the Microsoft sludge and put together all of the
tools you get with NeXTStep, you can easily spend over a grand or so,
and guess what. THEY SUCK......they are not very intuitive nor do
they interouperate at all. Plus you have to deal with the Windows
programming crap.....no thanks.
If you are a student or plan on using NeXTStep for personal use only,
take a few classes at the local college, and order NeXTStep on the
educational discount, it is huge and well worth the money $300.00.
> --
> Andy Robinson
Any other questions either direct them to the net, or to my e-mail...
Thanks and see you around the net....
Sean Willson
premise@pluto.eecs.umich.edu
--
_________________________________________________________________________
| Sean M. Willson "Chance favors a prepared mind.." |
| University of Michigan College of Engineering |
| ASCII: premise@umich.edu NeXTMail: premise@pluto.eecs.umich.edu |
| http://www.engin.umich.edu/~premise/ WWW Page (NeXT Stuff) |
| NeXT Programmer (Artist) in training! |
|_______________________________________________________________________|
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "You have new mail."
Date: 25 Apr 1995 17:34:23 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3njbqv$es7@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3nbg70$lfk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Lones A Smith <lasmith@athena.mit.edu> writes:
> I sometimes get (say 85%) the message "You have mail" when in fact
> I have new mail, and the rest of the time the more informative
> warning that new mail awaits me. I have developed various theories
> that have high explanatory power for the apparently random choice.
I looked through my MOTD.app sources from several years about where I
had to make the same 'You have new mail' vs. 'You have mail' choice.
There, I made the decision based on whether (s_stat.st_atime <=
s_stat.st_mtime) for the spool file in the mail directory. Here
'atime' is the time when file data was last read or modified and
'mtime' is the time when data was last modified. Thus if you quit out
of the mailer with unread mail, the next time you logged in, MOTD
should just tell you that 'You have mail'.
I don't know what algorithm your mailer uses, but if it's similar, you
might get apparently random behavior if other processes are reading
your mail spool file (e.g. biff) thus affecting the access time.
- Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: as@asci.fdn.fr (Antoine Schmitt)
Subject: ISDN, Europe, Intel, Internet ?
Message-ID: <1995Apr25.201204.1496@asci.fdn.fr>
Sender: as@asci.fdn.fr
Organization: Antoine Schmitt - Paris, France.
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:12:04 GMT
I'm looking for an European ISDN solution to connect to Internet. What are
the solutions, client and server side, the client being Intel based, the
server being anything, directly connected to the Net ? We'd like to use
ftp, WWW,... Something like PPP but over ISDN would be perfect.
What are the solutions and their price ?
Thanks
Antoine
--
________________________________________________________
Antoine Schmitt Consultant Informatique - Paris - France
as@asci.fdn.fr - (33 1) 44 62 97 77 - NeXT mail welcome
Message-ID: <19950425.181012.679504.NETNEWS@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:39:14 +0000
From: manish@jackie (Manish Shah)
Subject: SLIP for NeX?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Anyone know where I would be able to get the SLIP protocol for Unix on NeXT
I'd prefer a shareware/freeware/public domain one, but if anyone knows where I can purchase one, that'd work too. Please send me a r
Thanks a lot
Manish
:
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next EPS files to Mac Adobe PhotoShop 3.0
Date: 26 Apr 1995 01:08:28 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3nk6ec$lqh@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Is there any way to make Next EPSF 2.0 files readable by
Mac Adobe Photoshop 3.0. I tired a few things, including
converting the "text" to Mac style carriage return. Photoshop
complains it cannot parse the postscript file. Any help or
suggestions appreciated!
TIA
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: ghost@ghost.neosoft.com (Mark C. Allman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RE: SLIP for NeXT?
Date: 26 Apr 1995 02:50:41 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800
Message-ID: <3nkce1$30v@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <19950425.181012.679504.NETNEWS@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
Keywords: NeXT, slip
In article <19950425.181012.679504.NETNEWS@UICVM.UIC.EDU> writes:
> Anyone know where I would be able to get the SLIP protocol for Unix on NeXT
>
> I'd prefer a shareware/freeware/public domain one, but if anyone knows where
I can purchase one, that'd work too. Please send me a r
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Manish
> :
Look for PNI files on the archive site ftp.cs.orst.edu. They should
be somewhere in the communications area. There are probably several
releases (and naming conventions)--get the latest by date. Sorry I
can't recall the exact name(s).
I use the "free" version and it's OK. I've tweeked the start-up tcl
scripts to catch "busy" and "no carrier" errors for re-trying. Works
fine (~).
-- Mark Allman
-- Grad. Student, Physics, Univ. of Houston
-- ghost@ghost.neosoft.com
From: ghost@ghost.neosoft.com (Mark C. Allman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Perl5
Date: 26 Apr 1995 02:52:33 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800
Message-ID: <3nkchh$36i@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <3njb1m$fh8@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
Keywords: NeXT, perl
In article <3njb1m$fh8@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com> Wil Gayle writes:
> Where can I find Perl5 for NS3.2 and 3.3?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Wil Gayle
> !nterprise Networking Services
> U S West Communications
Perl 5 has been built for NS Motorola. I can send you my
config.sh file, if you'd like.
-- Mark Allman
-- Grad. Student, Physics, Univ. of Houston
-- ghost@ghost.neosoft.com
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 26 Apr 1995 03:00:11 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nkcvr$fbi@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <HADAR.95Apr25134856@uunet.uu.net>
In article <HADAR.95Apr25134856@uunet.uu.net> ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net
(Hadar Pedhazur) writes:
[Stuff regarding OpenWrite and WriteUp...]
I would strongly suggest that people have a look at WriteUp1.2 before
jumping to decisions. It imports/exports to every possible word processor
I know of (almost). Fast. It is also supported by a great bunch of people.
I am not saying that OpenWrite is not an excellent app, but certainly
everything that was mentioned with respect to it can be accomplished with
WU1.2 . In any case it's always good to keep everyone on their toes:)
--
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze ...]
From: Hugh Ashton <hugh@twics.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MST ppp on a minimal network and name resolution
Date: 26 Apr 1995 02:13:30 GMT
Organization: Twics Co. Ltd., Japan
Message-ID: <3nka8a$ft1@misc.twics.com>
References: <schwettD7J578.1Do@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
After some work and some very useful advice from members of this newsgroup,
I managed to configure my MST PPP so that it would dial from a single-host
"network" (the trick lay in not defining a default route at boot time, but
defining it after the pppd had been started, and then sending a single
64-byte packet to the gateway terminal server to bring up the connection).
The gateway (remote terminal server) is then reachable through the dynamic
address assigned to the du0 by the terminal server.
Having recently added another host to my NetInfo root domain, I am faced
with some more problems. I can bring up the ppp connection in the old way,
and it goes through just fine. However, the DNS seems to be completely
out to lunch. I am using a /etc/resolv/conf file - I do not have (and
don't need??) an NIC-assigned domain name, so the domain has been commented
out. I have the IP addresses of 3 known good nameservers in there. The IP
addresses of both machines are non-NIC authorized, as I assume that the
gateway will be the du0 address, which is NIC-authorized (but see below).
If I try to ftp ftp.cs.orst.edu, say, no packets go out of du0 while
lookupd does its thing, and then times out after sending a burst of domain
packets to the DNS servers. nslookup ftp.cs.orst.edu, however, brings back an
instant answer, and I can ftp by IP address without problems.
What ways are there to set the lookupd at boot time so that it doesn't
waste its time on NetInfo? I am not sure if this is the entire problem, but
I think there's at least some connection. (filters may be connected, as
may subnet masks).
Incidentally, packets originating from the pppd-running host seem to originate
from the du0 address, and packets from the non-gateway machine appear from
this machine's en0 address as they pass through the modem. Interesting??
Any light that can be shed on all of this would be welcome...
Many thanks
hugh
--
+-----------------------------------------------+
| Hugh Ashton, TWICS Co. Ltd. |
| Internet access in Tokyo: Tel (03)-3351-8244 |
| http://www.twics.com/~hugh/home.html |
+-----------------------------------------------+
| vanilla and MIME to hugh@twics.com |
| NeXT, MIME, Sun, MS and vanilla to |
| hugh@furuike.twics.com |
+-----------------------------------------------+
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: recording NeXT-sessions
Date: 26 Apr 1995 04:31:44 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3nkibg$kie@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3nj0lr$sm@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
In article <3nj0lr$sm@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller)
writes:
> Hallo,
>
> centuries ago I heard of a NeXTStep-App to record (and replay) sessions on
> a Next (sound and screen activities), but have forgotten its name. So
> could someone tell me the name of this application abd where I can get it.
>
it was called ShowandTell
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Beckman Institute, Physics Dept. UIUC
405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801,gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu, gmk@igc.apc.org,
gmk@santafe.edu, (217)-244-5877(voice),x5493(fax1),x8371(fax2), x1994 (msg)
URLs: http://www.ccsr.uiuc.edu/~gmk/, ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/gmk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <D7MsH1.8p2@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
References: <3ngq4e$h4o@ns2.ny.ubs.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 07:22:12 GMT
In article <3ngq4e$h4o@ns2.ny.ubs.com> hadar@amazon (Hadar Pedhazur)
writes:
> Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote:
> : In article <HADAR.95Apr22164125@uunet.uu.net> ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net
(Hadar
> : Pedhazur) writes:
>
> : > It is simplistic to look at Pages' retreat from the NS marketplace
as
> : > a result of NeXT doing this or that
>
> : I knew this type of post from a NeXT-apologist would
> : be coming.
>
> : Don't worry NeXT-apologists, there are only a few
> : NEXTSTEP ISVs left to go out of business, so you won't
> : have to post these fantasies much longer.
>
> : --
> : Nathan Janette
> : Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
>
> : Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
> : Voice: 203 432 5065
> : Fax: 203 432 3923
>
> Touche! I am sure that Yale has bought *tons* of copies of Pages and so
you
> know first hand how revolutionary it is. I on the other hand own many of
> copies of OpenWrite (for example) and a number of copies of FrameMaker.
> Between them, the need for Pages is *squat*.
>
> On the other hand, Pages was known as *the* thing for more than 2 years
> before the slightest hint of OpenWrite from Xanthus. Interesting that
the
> *unhyped* product from the soft-spoken company continues to ship and
> continues to be worked on (version 1.1 was announced recently with some
> hints as to what is coming in v2.0).
>
> NeXT-apologist indeed. More like Business Analysis 101. You're in
school,
> stop in at one of the courses when you get a sec.
> --
> Hadar Pedhazur
> Global Equity Derivatives
> Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
Same for us ! We have OpenWrite and FrameMaker. Although I liked the
interface of Pages and the feeling of "going into new concepts" it didn't
match the productivity of the Frame or OpenWrite. Two things that come in
mind as to the drawbacks of Pages :
1. Size of the files ! I thought this would be corrected at 1.5 but it
wasn't. Therefore any secretary writing standard documents would
systematically create files of 50 to 150 Kbytes. I had some technical
documents that took 1 meg in Pages and 100K in Frame... Good for hard disk
vendors, but not good for network performances and disk access.
2. No design model editor. This would have been one of the first things to
do ! Here in Europ we may have some different requirements for "Corporate
Look". And we can't depend on Pages consulting to build custom models.
Now the good side is : I still feel that the interface of Pages is one of
the best around. The Web authoring can certainly be a good market
oportunity for Pages. And, it seems anyhow that Pages is not dead, just
refocussing. Who knows, maybe next year on other platteforms the "little
details" that were really preventing deployment will be corrected.
From Switzerland
Alexander Lamb
Expert Quantitative Trading
Geneva
From: murphy@wsc.com (Paul Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep Video Conferencing
Date: 25 Apr 1995 12:47:52 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <MURPHY.95Apr25084752@eos.wsc.com>
References: <3ngjvj$gso@magma.Mines.Colorado.EDU>
In-reply-to: "Dave C. Morse"'s message of 24 Apr 1995 16:34:59 GMT
Dave -
NeXT's current recommendation would have to be: "build it yourself".
Why would you want to buy anything from a third party vendor when NeXT's
development tools let you "easily" build everything in-house (or
in-school)?
A mildly annoyed MCCA developer.
In article <3ngjvj$gso@magma.Mines.Colorado.EDU> "Dave C. Morse" <dmorse@nod.mines.colorado.edu> writes:
Does anyone know where I can get some video conferencing software that
runs under NeXTStep. Also, I am looking for a voice recognition dictation
system under the same operating system. Please e-mail any suggestions.
From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 25 Apr 1995 12:17:41 GMT
Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3nip95$roe@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
References: <3ng583$aj9@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
There are plenty of reasons to not wait for OpenStep for commercial app
development. For one, OpenStep does not exist in even a beta form, and it's
pretty stupid to base a business on non-existant software, Also, the run-time
requirements of apps written to the OpenStep API are unknown. The great
likelihood is that OpenStep is an additional cost item that will require a
run-time license, which means that only customers who conciously want OpenStep
(custom apps development) will be able to run our apps. Even then, not every
PC at a particular customer location will probably be licensed. This pretty
much kills any commercial OpenStep market that anyone was considering joining.
Followups to c.s.n.advocacy.
Tim
In article <3ng583$aj9@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> dcoyle@kakapo.mpi-hd.mpg.de
(David A. Coyle) writes:
> IMHO: OpenStep on Windoze is coming, and will probably be here before
> Pages' native Windoze product. Why not go the OpenStep route?
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ISDN, Europe, Intel, Internet ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 26 Apr 1995 12:31:49 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3nlefl$8m@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1995Apr25.201204.1496@asci.fdn.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Antoine Schmitt (as@asci.fdn.fr) wrote:
: I'm looking for an European ISDN solution to connect to Internet. What are
: the solutions, client and server side, the client being Intel based, the
: server being anything, directly connected to the Net ? We'd like to use
: ftp, WWW,... Something like PPP but over ISDN would be perfect.
I would suggest using a 286 PC, plug in an Ethernet-card and an ISDN-board,
install CAPI, ISPA, Packetdriver and PCroute or NOS, configure and your
ISDN-Router is ready. This solution is cheap (~ DM 500, depending on how
cheap you get the 286) and has proven stable.
The CAPI is part of the software belonging to the ISDN-board (a passive
ISDN-board is enough), ISPA is shareware (DM 30 or 50 private,
edu/commercial) implements ethernet over ISDN bridging supporting
PPP, SLIP, HDLC etc., PCroute and NOS/KA9Q are routers an are in the
public domain.
Cheers,
Axel
--
Axel Habermann kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de \\|//
Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o(
D-13353 Berlin (Wedding) \ | /
Fon: +49 30 45478986 (privat) 030 314 23 281 (uni) \~/
From: st931178@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Ari Lanin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: TI Notebook Video Question
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 22:56:07 -0500
Organization: Brandeis University
Message-ID: <st931178-2504952256070001@129.64.112.83>
I have a TI Laptop 4000M. The system currently and for the past two years
has been using a Cirrus Logic 6440 Video Card. In addition, the system
currently and for the past two years has been the most popular, best
selling and widely respected notebook computer on the market. However,
NeXT Step presently provides no video driver to use this video card with
the NeXT operating system. I question why NeXT would ignore such an
integral part of the PC notebook computer market by not producing a video
driver which utilizes it. In fact, the only generic driver that NeXT Step
provides is a 2 bit color driver. This is clearly not sufficient to make
the full potential of a 256 color notebook computer vith a VESA local
bus. Does anyone have any suggestions or possibilies to remedy this
illogical situation?
--
Nathan Raymond "Have you ever retired a human by mistake?"
xray@cs.brandeis.edu - Rachael, Blade Runner
nraymond@genesis.nred.ma.us
http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~xray
From: Steven Evans <sevans@andersen.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Report Writing Tools
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 11:47:56 GMT
Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice)
Message-ID: <NEWTNews.14026.798896940.sevans@pc225.andersen.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
We are currently evaluating report writing tools and are looking at the
following:
Parabase
Complete Access
SQL Buddy
Variodata
Mesa
Questor
We are using Intel NEXT client workstations with Sun servers running Sybase
v10.0 databases.
We would be very grateful for any user/developer experience of the above and
information on any other products we may have overlooked.
From: schaub@tam2000.tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 26 Apr 1995 13:09:16 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nlgls$fhe@news.tamu.edu>
References: <HADAR.95Apr25134856@uunet.uu.net> <3nkcvr$fbi@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Philip McDunnough (philip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote:
: In article <HADAR.95Apr25134856@uunet.uu.net> ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net
: (Hadar Pedhazur) writes:
: [Stuff regarding OpenWrite and WriteUp...]
:
: I would strongly suggest that people have a look at WriteUp1.2 before
: jumping to decisions. It imports/exports to every possible word processor
: I know of (almost). Fast. It is also supported by a great bunch of people.
: I am not saying that OpenWrite is not an excellent app, but certainly
: everything that was mentioned with respect to it can be accomplished with
: WU1.2 . In any case it's always good to keep everyone on their toes:)
same here. WriteUp1.2 seems to have some excellent import filters for other
document format. The filters even let you have docs with tables in them
that you can edit. Besides the filters, I think WriteUp1.2 has some great
improvment in the app itself. The spellchecker works at least 600% faster
(actually I am not quite sure how much faster, but it is almost no comparison
to the speed it used to be). Paragraph styles have been taken to another
level altogether. Besides already having the paragraph breaks, redlining,
drag and drop style selection, the new styles can now have a much more
complex personality (it is too long to list all). Obviously, I've been
quite pleased with 1.2
Please note that I am not saying anything bad about OpenWrite. I have only
used
OpenWrite1.0 for a short time to try it out. If you are in the market though
for a new wordprocessor. I strongly recommend you give both apps a good look.
Very good things have also been written about the new OpenWrite.
Personnaly, I am pleased to see two good products selling on NeXTstepn
I have not dealt with Xanthus, but I know AFS really stands behind their
product and gives excellent support; even to a small time edu customer like
me.
Have fun evaluating the options.
HP
schaub@tamu.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.next-l,comp.next,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: gulunce@uxmail.ust.hk (Les M. Lunce)
Subject: NCR SCSI driver needed
Message-ID: <gulunce-2604951504170001@sqzm17.ust.hk>
Sender: usenet@uxmail.ust.hk
Organization: Hong Kong Univ. of Sci. & Tech.
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 07:04:17 GMT
Greetings all!
Trying to install NeXTStep 3.3 for Intel on a Pentium with 32Mb RAM and
1.5 Gb of disk. Have an NCR PCI SCSI controller, SoundBlaster 16 and
Creative Labs CD-ROM.
Problem: when I try to install NeXTSTep it doesn't recognize my SCSI
controller and so cannot find the CD-ROM. Think I need a newer driver for
my SCSI controller.
If someone could please direct me to an ftp site or other source where I
could find a driver that works, I would really appreciate it!
Thanks in advance for your time and assistance.
Please respond by e-mail.
Regards,
Les M. Lunce
Hong Kong Univ. of Sci. & Tech.
gulunce@uxmail.ust.hk
From: paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CryptorBundle 1.2 vs. pgp 2.6.2
Date: 26 Apr 1995 14:22:39 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Message-ID: <PAUL.95Apr26092239@amber.umsl.edu>
References: <3mmo7h$2qo@usenet.rpi.edu> <1995Apr18.185337.1209@gamelan.shnet.org>
In-reply-to: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org's message of Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:53:37 GMT
In article <1995Apr18.185337.1209@gamelan.shnet.org>
thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) writes:
> BTW: Are there any significant advantages with PGP-2.6.2 ? For the next
> release of the bundle, do you want this pgp-version ?
Yes, I would prefer it. From Simson Garfinkel's book:
| Version 2.6
|
| ...Version 2.6 contained an important bug in the routine that
| seeded the random number generator from the keyboard input.
|
| ...
|
| Version 2.6.1
|
| This is Version 2.6 with bug fixes including an important bug
| fix in the random number seed routine.
> C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
Yup.
--
--paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Message-ID: <D7nC0r.DLD@bldrdoc.gov>
Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
References: <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:24:26 GMT
Matthew Nathaniel Reichman writes
Get the DEMO of OpenWrite and check it out. It should be on orst and
xanthus has there own spot for it too.
-E
(who thinks OW is excellent)
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: ubs!hadar@uunet.uu.net (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 26 Apr 1995 14:59:26 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site
Message-ID: <HADAR.95Apr26105926@uunet.uu.net>
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com>
In-reply-to: bwebster@pages.com's message of Fri, 21 Apr 1995 22:59:09 GMT
My news feed has been unbelievably flaky this past week, so I
apologize for the multiple posts and bad return address, etc. Further,
I have been missing a number of responses from this thread (still!)
and am only now aware of them due to the kindness of a colleague who
emailed them to me. The two of greatest interest (to me) were the
followups by Bruce Webster himself. Since I have the complete text but
do not have the thread to reply to, I apologize for replying at the
top level ... (I'm still a usenet newbie :-))
Bruce wrote:
>I'm curious at the comparison. We shipped version 1.0 of Pages in March of
>1994, 1.03 (bug fixes) in May, 1.5 (major UI changes, MailMerge, enhanced
>filters) in October, 1.6 (Pages Remote Objects API) in November, and 1.7
>(WebPages and 14 HTML design models) in February of 1995. I'm not sure
>there's any document processor on any platform that has a record for
>upgrades and development like that. The reason: the investment we made in
>the underlying architecture. As to whether it was worth it, that's another
>question, though one that's moot now. :-) ..bruce..
and in another post Bruce wrote:
>Others may flame, but I don't disagree...at least, not entirely.
>Mike Parker, one of Pages' founders, was fond of saying that we had
>built an outhouse on the foundation of a palace--which, as he pointed
>out, was better than trying to build a palace on the foundation of an
>outhouse. That paid off in our ability to do the WebPages extensions
>to our product in just four months from start to ship--and in the
>process, building what everyone has told us is the best Web authoring
>tool on the market. But it hurt us in terms of getting to market and
>gaining market share (which we would have had problems with,
>anyway--see below).
I completely agree with these points (about the base being so well
executed as to permit the incredibly rapid development of
WebPages! and enhancements to Pages itself as well). I particularly
pointed out in my first post that I did not think that the effort to
produce Pages was too long (in development time) but rather too long
in *anticipation* time. We definitely agree on the fact that the
engineering that went into the product was well thought out.
>Actually, it's a bit more complex than that...or maybe a bit more simple.
>Even if Pages had shipped a year earlier--March 1993, which was the
>earliest ever planned ship date--and even if Pages had offered immediate
>overwhelming advantages to all other document processors, we'd
>probably still be leaving the NeXT market by about now, and even might
>have done so sooner (though with our investors having put in less
>money). Why?
[reasons deleted, even though they are all accurate and excellent!]
I believe that this makes my point exactly! From the *business* point
of view, the product may have had very little chance of being a great
success in the NeXT marketplace from conception. Further, by hyping it
and *over engineering* it (from the perspective of the amount of
effort required to get the product to be what *you* wanted, rather
than what *users* were clamoring for), the product failed purely from
a business point of view, not an engineering or even a NeXT ISV blah
blah blah point of view.
I share the sentiment of a number of posters (and emailers) that
believe that there is still a good chance for Pages to be successful
under the auspices of ITS. It will obviously be due to the excellent
groundwork that you and your team have laid.
>Actually, the Large Numbers Game ("If we get just 1% of the installed
>base...") is a dangerous one to play, and competition in the Web market is
>going to be ferocious. We have our work cut out for us, and there are no
>guarantees. But, yes, the potential payoff is a couple of orders of
>magnitude greater.
I could not agree more. The mere fact that you understand this will
give you a fighting chance!
Truly, best of luck and I look forward some day to using WebPages on
my home Pentium!
--
Hadar Pedhazur
Global Equity Derivatives
Union Bank of Switzerland (UBS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mane@mjw.octagon.de (Manfred W"uhr)
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Message-ID: <1995Apr22.231153.523@mjw.octagon.de>
Sender: mane@mjw.octagon.de
Organization: Microcomputer-Jobs and Workouts
References: <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 23:11:53 GMT
In article <vrotneyD7Ezpt.6Jo@netcom.com> vrotney@netcom.com (William Paul
Vrotney) writes:
> I'm another like you and I suspect that there are many others. But if
this
> market does exist out there for NeXT how can that mass voice be heard by
> NeXT?
Shouting?
Here's another one ...
--
Manfred W"uhr - mane@mjw.octagon.de
--
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP: Converting to TIFF/Fax
Date: 26 Apr 1995 04:50:42 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3nkjf2$nfb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Hi:
I learned somewhere that TIFF has a special /F format which
is compatible with fax machines! Does anyone know anything
about that? How can I convert a TIFF image to this format?
I do have the pbmplus package installed, but could not
find any reference to the /F format.
Thanks.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
http://libra.arch.umich.edu/Students/Wassim.Jabi/Portfolio/
From: root@cnw (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to get the NCR Driver
Date: 26 Apr 1995 17:18:24 GMT
Organization: Symbios Logic
Message-ID: <3nlv90$s5q@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM>
I wanted to annouce the ftp & BBS sites and to also annouce that we
(Symbios Logic) DO support the Driver, however NeXT has yet to certify it
because NeXT will only ceritfy strctly 3.3 drivers. This driver supports both
3.2 & 3.3 and is presently being modified (by NeXT and Symbios Logic) to
be certified for 3.3.
The Symbios Logic Driver for the NCR 8100, 8150, 8250, & 8251S are now
available on our BBS and our ftp site. The number to our BBS is
719.573.3562. Our ftp site is ftp.symbios.com, log in as anonymous. They
Driver files are in the /pub/ncrchips/scsi/drivers/next3 directory.
The next3.zip file is a package for dos users that contains the files and
documents needed to create an installation disk from a DOS machine.
The sym53c8.cfg is equivilent to SYM53c8.config.compressed and is
compressed using NeXT. Obviously, this file is for NeXT system users.
The next.dd file is an Iimage of the installation disk that is formed by using
dd. To create the disk from an image, use the Unix dd command.
Rawrite3 is the freeware utility we use to create the image disk for DOS
users from the next.dd file.
The rest of the files are documentation.
Note: This is not a NeXT supported driver, it is supported by Symbios
Logic.
This Driver will NOT work with Benoulli Drives
Thomas Wells
Engineer
Symbios Logic
From: searchsa@ix.netcom.com (Mark L. Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXT PROGRAMMER
Date: 26 Apr 1995 18:02:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nm1sj$ppp@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
POSITION: NEXT PROGRAMMER
COMPANY: One of the largest shipping companies on the West Coast
COMPENSATION: Open depending upon experience
REQUIREMENTS: Seeking individual with NEXT Programming skills or will
hire recent college graduate who studied NEXT or will consider
recent
college graduate with C Programming skills.
Outstanding opportunity to join this leading transportation
company who uses the latest technology. Excellent opportunity for
growth and advancement.
If you are interested in this position, please contact Mark
Robbins, Search Solutions Associates, (415) 898-1800 or FAX resume to
(415) 898-2439 or E-mail us at searchsa@ix.netcom.com.
From: tappd@neosoft.com (Dan Tapp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TTF <--> PS Fonts?
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:58:18 -700
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800
Message-ID: <3nm8g8$4c9@uuneo.neosoft.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm not sure this is the right newsgroup to ask in the comp.sys.next.*
cluster, but I'll give it a shot.
I have two hundred kajillion TrueType fonts on my Windoze machine (OK, I
actually USE about two dozen during the course of a year), and the usual lame
almost-collection of fonts on NS. Is there a conversion utility that'll move
my favorite ones over?
Many thanks for answers to a question no-doubt asked for the nth time.
- Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: eboltz@nist.gov (Eric S. Boltz)
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Message-ID: <D7norD.LBu@bldrdoc.gov>
Sender: news@bldrdoc.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
References: <3nivo1$ppc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 18:59:36 GMT
Robert Lutwak writes
> OpenWrite is SSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW. I usually type a sentence
> or two ahead of the screen update, periodically pausing to let it catch
> up, when I need to edit something. I hope 600% is enough improvement
> and I hope all 600% is in screen speed. Also, the MacWord import
> completely bombs on figures and tables. Again, this upgrade promises
> improvement in this regard and I hope it succeeds.
Robert,
You really should be running the 1.1 beta. It has yet to give me any
problems and it easily keeps up with my (fast) typing now (1.0 did not).
Graphics manipulations are much quicker too. I used to use placeholders
for graphics and equations, but 1.1 keeps up.
As for conversions...I've yet to see a WP on any platform that can
do these to my liking (winword 6.0 *with* equations!)...
-E
--
Eric S. Boltz
My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't,
the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 26 Apr 1995 20:40:17 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3nmb3h$4rg@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu>
Matthew Nathaniel Reichman writes
> I currently own WriteUp, but after reading in comp.sys.next.announce
> about OpenWrite's funcitonability it is clear that OW is a more mature
> product than WU. On the other hand WU is promising to gain that kind of
> file conversion and complexity in next release. In OW release OW is
> purportedly 600% faster - what does that mean -- WU's screen refresh and
> other stuff is not so fast.
Any minute now, you should see the news you have been waiting for in
c.s.n.annouce. I will let that speak for itself.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 26 Apr 1995 18:30:30 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nmhi6$nq9@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu>
Keywords: wordprocessor
reichman@alcor.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) writes:
>Comments, please. I need to have a top flight and inter-os wordprocessor asap
Just my .02, OW is kinda butt ugly. Its got this double wierd inspector from
hell interface...actually many of what seems to be standard NeXT UI principles
seem to be violated by the app.
It knda brings the words of MS Word with out all the power to NS. Now perhaps
OW1.1 will look and be better, but by the small arsenal of 'tacked' on apps
that seem to be 'included' it seems like its probably still butt ugly.
This is obvioulsy my COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE view on this, and in that vein I
like WU1.2 which just came out with a zillion file filters much better.
Its UI is much cleaner.
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <a-gain.hanse.de!stefan@ccwnoc.hanse.de>
Message-ID: <m0s43LK-000btOC@a-gain>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 10:25:08 +0100
Subject: Access to Specials of 1992
Hi there World!
Who has access to the following software, which Steve talked about
at the last introduction of NeXT Hardware (Turbos) / NeXTSTEP 486 in
1992 ?
Any old disks lying around, anybody?
- Composite Lab with 3D-animation (demo by SJ)
- unsupported IllustratoR for NeXTSTEP 486
- unsupported ImproV for NeXTSTEP 486
Pls. drop me a line under stefan@a-gain.hanse.de
Thanx + Greetings = | : - )
from Stefan
stefan@a-gain.hanse.de
( NeXTmail favorized / MIME o.k.! )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson)
Subject: PPP/SLIP Software for NEXTStep
Message-ID: <D7nx6y.DA@mrk.com>
Sender: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson)
Organization: Dawson Computer Services
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 22:01:45 GMT
Hi All
Was wondering if someone could tell me where I could find a good SLIP or PPP
implementation for NEXTStep/fip.
Thanx in advance
jerald
--
jerald dawson * Owner / Consultant * Dawson Computer Services
NeXTmail - jerald@mrk.com |
phone - (708) 526-3727 | Windows 95? Should be WinEver!
From: hsla@irene.mit.edu (LA, HOSEONG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: vt100 and kermit broken on NS3.2 slightly, is upgrading always good?
Date: 26 Apr 1995 16:53 EST
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26APR199516534434@irene.mit.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50
I sometimes wonder if upgrading to bigger number is always good.
First, terminal.app after upgrading does not generate those TPU keypads for
VMS TPU Editor any more. More precisely, the NextUSA.keymap fails to generate
the top row keys, marked as '`=/* '. The rest keys seem to work fine.
I don't know how to fix it, so I replaced Terminal.app, Keyboard.app and
USA.keymapping with the ones in NS3.0. Then it works fine again.
Counting one for 'upgrading is not always good.'
Second, in the shell window when I download files via kermit, the nice
progress window has gone away, instead only command level progress report
shows up. In particular, I cannot see the remaining time thing any more.
I don't know any answer for that at all. BTW, I use kermit5A(188).
Counting two for 'upgrading is not always good.'
Oh, one more counting. I thought upgrading to the kermit to 5A(190) may solve
the problem. Guess what, it now fails to recognize the hardware control cts/rts.
So I had to retreat back to 5A(188).
Any comments or your solutions are appreciated.
Hoseong
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adding PS font characters
Date: 26 Apr 1995 20:04:19 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3nm903$a5g@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I am trying to add a few special characters to the supplied NeXT fonts;
for example, I need a u-ring. As there is already an a-ring, I thought
that the format to be added for composited characters would be the same. I
added this to the Times-Roman.afm file:
CC uring 2 ; PCC u 0 0 ; PCC ring 84 0 ;
Also I increased the table count entry correspondingly. Still, I won't get
a u-ring. Can someone tell me what's wrong? I don't need a whole special
character set, just a few additions to my usual font which I would like to
map with the Keyboard.app in an alternative setting.
Thanks,
- Stan
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| stanj@cs.stanford.edu NeXTmail / MIME | When you find yourself |
| http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj/ | in a hole, stop digging |
| Box 2642, Stanford, CA 94309, USA | |
+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "You have new mail."
Date: 27 Apr 1995 01:11:00 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3nmqv4$gro@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3nbg70$lfk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <3njbqv$es7@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3njbqv$es7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU writes:
>Lones A Smith <lasmith@athena.mit.edu> writes:
>> I sometimes get (say 85%) the message "You have mail" when in fact
>> I have new mail, and the rest of the time the more informative
>> warning that new mail awaits me. I have developed various theories
>> that have high explanatory power for the apparently random choice.
>
>I looked through my MOTD.app sources from several years about where I
>had to make the same 'You have new mail' vs. 'You have mail' choice.
>There, I made the decision based on whether (s_stat.st_atime <=
>s_stat.st_mtime) for the spool file in the mail directory. Here
>'atime' is the time when file data was last read or modified and
>'mtime' is the time when data was last modified. Thus if you quit out
>of the mailer with unread mail, the next time you logged in, MOTD
>should just tell you that 'You have mail'.
>
>I don't know what algorithm your mailer uses, but if it's similar, you
>might get apparently random behavior if other processes are reading
>your mail spool file (e.g. biff) thus affecting the access time.
>
>- Christopher
I do not think anything here has been customized, so I presume my NeXT behaves
just as the next NeXT does ;-). THat being the case, why wasn't the default
algorithm something inanely transparent like "If X has mail that hasn't yet been
read then the message "You have new mail" is offered; otherwise, the message
"You have Mail" is given.
Too easy for those at NeXT HQ?
Don't know why.
Lones
--
Lones A. Smith, Economics, MIT || The `v' in Massachvsetts Institvte
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 || of Technology is a Latin affectation
617-253-0914 (voice), -6915 (fax) || with which I strongly disagree.
lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail OK) || Feel free to svbstitvte `u' as desired.
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with Emacs for NS (4.0pl6)
Date: 24 Apr 1995 13:23:56 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.95Apr24092357@freedom.princeton.edu>
References: <3n05js$p0p@wsiserv.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>
To: lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer)
In-reply-to: lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de's message of 18 Apr 1995 10:51:39 GMT
In article <3n05js$p0p@wsiserv.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> lauer@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Lauer) writes:
recently I tried to upgrade Emacs for NeXTstep 4.0 from patchlevel 5
to patchelevel 6. Everything (ie. the compile) is fine until I try to
run Emacs.app. After a while of intensive harddisk access, the icon
is displayed and then removed. The console logs a message like:
sequencep, undefined
Dozens of people have written to me with that problem. In every
single case the cause was that they forgot to byte-recompile the emacs
lisp directories after applying the patch. Either doing so or getting
the full distribution always fixed the problem. This is the main
reason I've just given up on providing patches for Emacs for NeXTstep.
Carl Edman
From: ghost@ghost.neosoft.com (Mark C. Allman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP Software for NEXTStep
Date: 27 Apr 1995 04:24:03 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800
Message-ID: <3nn693$fti@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <D7nx6y.DA@mrk.com>
Keywords: NeXT, slip, ppp
In article <D7nx6y.DA@mrk.com> jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) writes:
> Hi All
>
> Was wondering if someone could tell me where I could find a good SLIP or PPP
> implementation for NEXTStep/fip.
>
> Thanx in advance
>
> jerald
> --
> jerald dawson * Owner / Consultant * Dawson Computer Services
> NeXTmail - jerald@mrk.com |
> phone - (708) 526-3727 | Windows 95? Should be WinEver!
PPP:
From a recent inquiy of my own:
Quote:
Plenty of source avalible, check out merit.edu or wuarchive.wustl.edu.
Merit has ppp-2.1.2 and is easy to get to, wuarchive has everything I
have seen (ppp-2.1.2, dp2.x, dp3.x, ...) but is much harder to get into.
http://www.MorningStar.com/
They sell commercial ppp s/w
SLIP:
See my posting on 4/25.
-- Mark Allman
-- Space Shuttle Ascent Flight Design/Analysis, Rockwell Space Ops. Co.
-- Grad. Student, Physics, Univ. of Houston
-- ghost@ghost.neosoft.com
From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Who makes "Eloquent"; where do I get it?
Date: 26 Apr 1995 15:36:00 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3nlp90$b5g@digdug.pencom.com>
I've heard of a NEXTSTEP based newsreader called "Eloquent". It is supposed
to support threads, and other nice stuff. I'd like to know where to get it,
and who makes it. Anybody?
--
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Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: typing tutor KP, freeware
Date: 27 Apr 1995 11:50:06 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <3no0de$p8s@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <3niodk$4ad@whitbeck.ncl.ac.uk>
Zijian Huang (zijian.huang@ncl.ac.uk) wrote:
> Freeware typing tutor KP for you and your friends or student.
....
> kp.exe
> kp.cfg
> kp.bat
> kp.txt
> readme.kp
...
> zijian.huang@ncl.ac.uk
Does not look like NeXTstep software to me...
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh,
Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics
Leiden University
gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 27 Apr 1995 13:29:28 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3no67o$2h6n@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <3nmbkp$4sm@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3nmbkp$4sm@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
as everyone knows, I am no
> apologist for NeXT's many failures -- but my customer list does not
> support this frequently-cited canard. It _spite_ of NeXT's best efforts
> to shed non-MCCA customers, they keep showing up anyway. Not enough to
> form what you and I might both consider a "real" market, but enough to
> fully justify the ongoing development of WriteUp and PasteUp at a cold,
> practical business level. Good products still sell, though not as much
> as we all hoped when we got started.
>
> OTOH, I don't think there are any ISVs left who get by on shrink-wrapped
> apps alone. Everyone does consulting, too, and the big opportunities are
> in using products like WriteUp and PasteUp as extensions of MCCA jobs.
> --
The question is, how will OpenStep, especially on Sparc and Windows, change all
of this? On the one hand you will have many more seats. On the other hand,
someone running Windows with OpenStep on top can choose either a Windows app or
an OpenStep app. Given the huge number of Windows apps, how many people will
choose OpenStep?
As an edu user, I'm looking forward to OpenStep (for HP, I hope), because it
will allow me to run both OS/NS apps that I like (such as Frame (again, I
hope), Create, and Mathematica), but also run other codes "native" at the same
time, like home-grown Fortran codes which we use very heavily (even though we
have no NS-based fortran compiler for HP at this time, and have to re-boot in
HP-UX to work with our Fortran) and also IDL and Spyglass. Or even Frame, if it
was not available for OS.
The point is that since OS users will have the ability to run non-OS codes
under OS, the OS developer community will have to "try harder" (the last thing
they want to hear, I'm sure) to win our business.
Anyway, I'm curious as to whether shrinkwrap NS developers expect that OS will
be good or bad for business.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <D7p0D4.3nw@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy
References: <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com> <D7GEMG.2BG@RnA.NL> <drspudD7Lpv2.Cn2@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:07:51 GMT
In article <drspudD7Lpv2.Cn2@netcom.com>, drspud@netcom.com says...
>
>Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL wrote:
>: In article <D7EqIL.1GC@pages.com> bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
writes:
>
>: [Pages quits]
>
>: This is a decision that was not taken yesterday. You don't take decisions like
>: these lightly and they take some time. I feel a bit cheated in that this comes
>: so short after the WebPages release and me buying the upgrade. At that point
>: they probably knew that this was (likely) going to happen.
>
>This is really an unfair remark. The decision to do this came from the
>people who own Pages (the venture capitalists) and not the technical
>staff. If you need to blame someone, blame them. To the credit of the
>folks at Pages, they really tried to make it work longer than they
>probably should have. The WebPages product was thier last best hope to
>stay on the platform. But lo and behold, the community did not support
>them in the only way that matters... With $$$. If you are looking for
>someone to be angry at, don't look at Pages.
>
>drspud
>
I don't see why this should alter things. I did not refer to any type of person involved,
venture capital providers or technical staff. I just noted that such a decision must have
been in the works at the moment WebPages was released.
If I am really suspicious, I would say that this is the ideal way to handle the transfer to
ITS if you ever plan one. The release of WebPages by Pages would have more impact
than the release of WebPages by ITS. So, to give ITS a good chance, you would do it this
way.
On another track: Pages has the technical know how to extend and support the product.
They actually say so because they need that staff for the Windows development. And
they state that that implies that they cannot support NEXTSTEP any longer. They are just
a small company after all. I would say, if it pays off, you can hire people. You can't have it
both ways: Or you can support NEXTSTEP development with other people and in that
case *both* Pages (with extra people) and ITS qualify, or you cannot and in that case
ITS won't be able to deliver either. I am not saying that they won't I am only saying that if
they will (and that seems a reasonable guess) than Pages would have been able to do
that too. (It is not that simple of course, venture capital and all that).
Any way you look, the time spent on WebPages for NEXTSTEP will have to be matched
by the $$$ spent by the community buying it. Less buyers eventually means less
product.
Let me repeat here, I am not stating that the 'suspicious' scenario is true. I cannot know,
so any guess is probably wrong. And Bruce and his team have been swell guys/girls as
far as I can see.
But the decision like this was at least in the making (if not - suspicious - made) at the
moment WebPages was released. You don't take such a decision overnight and
the time between the announcement (timed to be during a Web conference no
less) and the announement implies it. Which means I fell a bit mislead, but - hey - there
is nothing wrong with a little misleading. If Pages comes out and tells us that the
decision was not in the making at the time of release of WebPages, I'll belief them. But I
guess it was and they won't.
BTW, I wonder what ITS plans actually are with the product. Are they going to release a
Design Model development kit? Can they? What about Pages' software patents on the
Design Models that they mention in their communication? Etc.
Back to work,
--Gerben
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for drum synthisizing software for NS/i with musickit
Date: 27 Apr 1995 17:20:35 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nojp3$moh@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I just bought a Turtle Beach card to try out the MusicKit and it
works pretty darn good. Now I am looking for some easy to understand/use
software for making drum sounds and arranging them. Ensemble is little
hard to use for a beginner. I read about a program called Ringo that could
be used for what I want but I can't find it on orst, sonata or ccrma-ftp, can
someone tell me if its still available? It needs to be source or an MAB
binary. I am also open to any other music programs that will make cool
drum tracks.
Thanks
John Stanhope
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sakaino@ariel.edu.iwate-u.ac.jp (Naoki Sakaino)
Subject: Emacs on hppa
Sender: news@msv.cc.iwate-u.ac.jp (News Administrator)
Message-ID: <D7pE1A.8ty@msv.cc.iwate-u.ac.jp>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 17:03:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, Iwate University, Morioka, JAPAN
Configuring Emacs 4.0 for NeXTSTEP on hppa, the shell script rejects the
conbination, hppa-next-bsd.
How can I clear this problem and go on compiling?
Thank you for your attention.
Naoki Sakaino
From: dennis@underdog (Dennis Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: download
Date: 27 Apr 1995 16:46:06 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Message-ID: <3nohoe$9b7@kelso.pprd.abbott.com>
HI:
I usually use kermit to download files, but it is very slow.
I would like to know is there any other utility that support protocols other than kermit, such as zmodem
From: rjrjr@buffalo (Ray Ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do I tell IB that I made Matrix smarter?
Date: 26 Apr 1995 19:09:54 GMT
Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
Message-ID: <3nm5q2$pq3@lighthouse.lighthouse.com>
I'm using IB 3.3 (v460).
For obscure reasons of my own, I have a whole bunch of pairs of
matrices. In each pair, a switch in matrix A is to control the
enabledness of the corresponding cell in matrix B.
I have written a category of Matrix that defines an action that does
just this, so that I can just point all my matrix A's at their matrix
B's, and avoid a bunch of copy/paste code.
But I can't get IB to acknowledge that Matrix now knows one more
action than it did out of the box. I've tried parsing the H file that
defines the category. Nothing happens. I've tried adding the action
from within IB. The Add Action menu item is disabled.
Argh. Is there anything I can do about this?
rjrjr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: Problems doing dump on ST32550N
Message-ID: <D7pGn1.Ewt@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 17:59:25 GMT
I'm having problems doing a dump from a Seagate Barracuda ST32550N. I
have the drive connected up to a NeXT '040 Cube, and it is set to SCSI
ID 2. The DAT drive is set to SCSI ID 3. I have not have any problems
with the drive in use, but when I go to perform a level 0 dump with
the dump command provided with the operating system, it goes for a
while, and then this error is reported on the console:
reselect timeout - target 2
st: cmd = 0xa sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x6 Sense Code = 0x0
The DAT drive I'm trying to backup to is a WangDAT Model 2600. After
the failure the DAT drive spazzes and rewinds the whole tape. Is there
some sort of SCSI command conflict with the drive? I've never had a
problem doing a dump of any other SCSI hard drive (several of which
are also Seagate).
This is the info returned for the Barracuda:
Vendor Identification: 'SEAGATE '
Product Identification: 'ST32550N '
Product Revision Level: '0012'
Vendor Specific: '00027445'
Reserved: ''
Vendor-Specific Parameters: '\000Copyright (c) 1994 Seagate All rights
reserved'
And this is the info for the WangDAT:
Vendor Identification: 'WangDAT '
Product Identification: 'Model 2600 '
Product Revision Level: '01.6'
Vendor Specific: 'BFW05.20AFW01.60'
Reserved: ''
Vendor-Specific Parameters: ''
Is this a problem with the SCSI driver in NeXTStep 3.3? I was able to
do a dump from the Seagate to the optical drive, but I can't do it to
the DAT. What's the problem, and how do I fix it?
---
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Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063
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From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Talk Daemon Message: You don't exist; Go away!
Message-ID: <1995Apr27.160042.19367@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 27 Apr 95 16:00:42 EDT
References: <3n70p8$jj3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
In article <3n70p8$jj3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta) writes:
> Can anyone please help me figure out why the talk daemon on my machine
> is now refusing to initiate talk sessions. When I attempt to use
> "talk", I get the error message "You don't exist. Go away." Talk has
> worked fine on my NeXTstation for the past 3 years.
> Earlier in the week, our system administrator inadvertently removed
> my machine from the Stanford University DNS (Domain Name Server), and
> it was unrecognizable by the rest of the world for 12 hours. Could
> some file have been corrupted?
> The mesg command says I can accept messages.
> But I now get the following console error messages in response to
I get the "You don't exist, go away" when I am logged in on my machine.
But, ytalk works fine, if you get it from archives and install it.
Other users who telnet in, at least, have no problem with talk. It may
be because of the telnet or because I am in wheel group, even though I
am not usually signed on as root. Can anyone solve this mystery?
My machine works just fine in all respects and always has so I don't think
your second problem is necessarily related.
Tom Herbert
Univ. of Miami
therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
From: ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Elliott Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 27 Apr 1995 19:55:49 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3noss5$fkl@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu> <3nmhi6$nq9@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
: Just my .02, OW is kinda butt ugly. Its got this double wierd inspector from
: hell interface...actually many of what seems to be standard NeXT UI principles
: seem to be violated by the app.
Although I'm relatively new to the NS OS, and consequently NS apps, as
well, so I can't say much about style guide violations. The interface is
rather odd; I prefere button bars to multiple inspectors or deep menu
trees, and the supporting apps data transferes are unwieldy; however, this
is a very flexible program, and the supporting apps are outstanding. I've
only seen in act strangely on rare occasion, and have yet to loose data;
IE, it's stable. I can't compare it to WU, since I've never used it, but
in my opinion, OW is not far behind FrameMaker.
--
# Sean Russell | "It's like the first time you had sex.
# ser@cs.uoregon.edu | Sometimes you have to look up and ask:
# www.cs.uoregon.edu:80/~ser | 'Daddy, is this right?'"
# Finger Me for PGP Key | --- Tank Girl
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From: mbk@jt3ws1.etd.ornl.gov (Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 27 Apr 1995 15:45:46 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Message-ID: <3noe7a$5iv@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
References: <3nmbkp$4sm@shelob.afs.com> <3no67o$2h6n@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Dave Randall (randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu) wrote:
> The question is, how will OpenStep, especially on Sparc and Windows, change all
> of this? On the one hand you will have many more seats. On the other hand,
> someone running Windows with OpenStep on top can choose either a Windows app or
> an OpenStep app. Given the huge number of Windows apps, how many people will
> choose OpenStep?
Some of the same reasons that people now use Nextstep instead of Windows?
> The point is that since OS users will have the ability to run non-OS codes
> under OS, the OS developer community will have to "try harder" (the last thing
> they want to hear, I'm sure) to win our business.
> Anyway, I'm curious as to whether shrinkwrap NS developers expect that OS will
> be good or bad for business.
Depends on whether you think Nextstep software is generally superior to
X or Windows competition.
I don't think this is going to be a huge problem.
matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: shawn@monitor.com
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Message-ID: <D7pEt2.3K3@monitor.com>
Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
References: <3nmhi6$nq9@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 17:19:48 GMT
geez, it sounds like it's almost a wash. all sorts of very happy people on
both sides with gripes and accolades pretty uniformly placed.
given all this, i'm leaning towards OpenWrite 'cuz it's $100 cheaper than
WriteUp.....
in absence of significant feature differentiation, a 28% price differential
($350 vs $250) is always interesting!
shawn
---
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Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
--
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Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula3,comp.sys.next.software
From: beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty)
Subject: Modula-3 partial solution
Message-ID: <3nph4v$gmj@beatty.slip.netcom.com>
Keywords: sbrk, 6MB, vm_allocate
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:41:51 GMT
Recently I posted a query re: building SRC Modula-3 release 3.5.2 on a
NeXTstation running NEXTSTEP 3.2. The symptom was that on large
compilations the compiler would die.
The problem, it turns out, was that it was running out of memory: the
Modula-3 runtime calls sbrk to allocate large chunks of memory, and NeXT's
undocumented sbrk emulation is only good to 6MB. Fortunately, Modula-3
does not care if its memory chunks are contiguous, so writing my own sbrk
as a simple wrapper around vm_allocate sufficed. I've succeeded in
building Trestle.
However, I haven't succeeded in building Trestle applications---there's no
shared memory in the Mouse-X libraries on the NeXT archives. It looks
like a dummy version of XSharedMem is called for. This much I think I've
figured out:
PROCEDURE UsesExtension (st: VBT.ScreenType): BOOLEAN =
BEGIN
RETURN FALSE;
END UsesExtension;
--
Derek Lee Beatty
beatty@netcom.com ,(((|)))-K ,(((|)))-K ,(((|)))-K
Austin, Texas ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
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From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Who makes "Eloquent"; where do I get it?
Date: 27 Apr 1995 18:41:01 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3nooft$rjf@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3nlp90$b5g@digdug.pencom.com>
In article <3nlp90$b5g@digdug.pencom.com> robin@pencom.com (Robin D.
Wilson) writes:
> I've heard of a NEXTSTEP based newsreader called "Eloquent". It is
supposed
> to support threads, and other nice stuff. I'd like to know where to get
it,
> and who makes it. Anybody?
>
> --
>
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> *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine!
***
>
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Software
> 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of
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> Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX
78759
Eloquent is by Take Three and is available through OpenSource. Let me
know if you'd like more information.
--
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<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
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From: hadar@amazon (Hadar Pedhazur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs on hppa
Date: 27 Apr 1995 20:33:48 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland, New York site
Message-ID: <3nov3c$b52@ns2.ny.ubs.com>
References: <D7pE1A.8ty@msv.cc.iwate-u.ac.jp>
Naoki Sakaino (sakaino@ariel.edu.iwate-u.ac.jp) wrote:
: Configuring Emacs 4.0 for NeXTSTEP on hppa, the shell script rejects the
: conbination, hppa-next-bsd.
: How can I clear this problem and go on compiling?
: Thank you for your attention.
: Naoki Sakaino
Not sure exactly what you are doing, but simply LEAVE OFF any machine target
and the script "figures" it out correctly. If I recall, it's something like:
mab-next-??? etc.
--
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From: bestor@spam.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: libInterceptor_s & DoomII
Date: 27 Apr 1995 23:56:10 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept
Message-ID: <3npauq$f9s@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I just picked up a copy of NEXTIME - OK, I admit it, I just got it
to play DoomII :-) But apparantly I have verison 18 of the
/usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib file and DoomII requires
version 20, at least according to Omni's DoomII alhpa release notes.
So my question is how to I go about getting the latest version of this?
At the moment if I launch DoomII it gives me a fatal error
Z_Malloc: failed on allocation of 1572924 bytes
which may or may not be because of my having an old version.
BTW: I'm running a 25MHZ 040 NeXTcube w/ 16MB and NEXTSTEP 3.2.
Thanks,
- Gareth
From: gshaw@zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TipTop's port redirecter and OmniWeb
Date: 27 Apr 1995 21:50:03 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney, +61-2-837-1183 V.32bis
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3np3ib$74e@godzilla.zeta.org.au>
Keywords: OmniWeb TipTop http nntp
Hi all,
I am using TipTop for my comms from NeXT to my internet service provider.
(Great Product). One of the really neat features of TipTop is that it can
redirect socket (I think) calls from a port number on the local machine to
the same port on the service provider end. Actually this work in done
with term which is available and will work separately form TipTop.
I have this working with NewsGrazer where I redirect port 119 on my
machine to port 119 on my service provider. This way NewsGrazer thinks it
is directly connected and works brilliantly.
How can I do this for OmniWeb? I knwo the port is 80 for http but
redirecting this does nothing. All the service provider info relates
quite specifically to a SLIP connection and windows slip at that so I
don't expect much knowledge or help from the local quarter.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers, Greg Shaw.
From: michael@wolfgang (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next EPS files to Mac Adobe PhotoShop 3.0
Date: 27 Apr 1995 22:24:04 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Message-ID: <3np5i4$m1@nntp.crl.com>
References: <3nk6ec$lqh@news.acns.nwu.edu>
jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) wrote:
>Is there any way to make Next EPSF 2.0 files readable by
>Mac Adobe Photoshop 3.0. I tired a few things, including
>converting the "text" to Mac style carriage return. Photoshop
>complains it cannot parse the postscript file. Any help or
>suggestions appreciated!
The latest edition of Adobe magazine points out that Photoshop can
only open Illustrator generated .eps files. So if you can first
convert your NeXT .eps to Adobe Illustrator .eps (Tailor will probably
help) then theoretically, you should be able to get it into Photoshop.
Michael Rutchik
Senior Graphic Designer
The Clorox Company
michael@clxgraph.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
michael@mmgraph.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
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From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 27 Apr 1995 23:59:17 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3npb4l$2nt@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <3nmbkp$4sm@shelob.afs.com> <3no67o$2h6n@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3noe7a$5iv@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
: Depends on whether you think Nextstep software is generally superior to
: X or Windows competition.
When available, NS software. However, very little is available
anymore---and even less that can interchange files with common PC products.
In particular, the lack of apps to read and write MS Excel 6 compatible and
MS Word 5 compatible output (for my colleagues and secretaries), and the
ever smaller number of general operating system applications has convinced
me that I have to look for a new OS.
NeXT is good for what it wants to be good: a great development environment
for inhouse applications, running on many different kinds of hardware. It has
given up on competing as a general purpose operating system.
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance (ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu)
AGSM at UCLA
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From: reichman@mekab.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The Once and future OS
Date: 27 Apr 1995 18:46:14 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@mekab.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3nphd6$ois@mekab.usc.edu>
Summary: compatibility
Keywords: next
>In particular, the lack of apps to read and write MS Excel 6 compatible
>and MS Word 5 compatible output
Don't WriteUp 1.2 and Mesa's next upgrade solve that problem? Probably more apps on NS will have to have doc conversion ability esp with OS coming. But a company like AFS seems extremely concerned to make its product import/export compatible with the rest of the world.
Matthew Reichman
Univ. of So. Calif. Grad. School of Cinema-Television
reichman@scf.usc.edu (NeXTMail welcome)
--
"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
From: reichman@mekab.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next World, Magazine?
Date: 28 Apr 1995 00:28:00 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@mekab.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3nq5e0$7si@mekab.usc.edu>
Summary: Next World folded
Keywords: Next World
NeXT World folded some time ago. NeXT In Line has taken it's place.
contact: nil-subscriptions@abstractsoft.com
NeXT Step -- never heard of mag called by that
Open Step mag - quite possible, never heard of it. But NIL covers a lot of Openstep issues and then other Unix programming mags do too.
Matt
PS - NeXT In Line is very good - much better than NeXTWorld was.
--
"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
From: blechman@aol.com (BLECHMAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next World, Magazine?
Date: 27 Apr 1995 23:32:37 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3npnkl$aj4@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Is there anybody out there who can tell me if there are Magizines or
newsletters called Next World, Next Step, and Open Step Solutions? If so,
do you know who they are published by.
Also, I need some information on third party Graphics applications
available for NEXTSTEP.
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
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From: gulunce@uxmail.ust.hk (Les M. Lunce)
Subject: 3.3 Multi-boot and dead mouse?
Message-ID: <gulunce-2804950959400001@sqzm17.ust.hk>
Sender: usenet@uxmail.ust.hk
Organization: Hong Kong Univ. of Sci. & Tech.
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:59:40 GMT
Greetings all!
Many thanks to all of you who replied to my inquiry about the Symbios
(NCR) driver. I got the driver and it works great! Thanks again for your
kind assistance.
Now I have a few more questions.
1. Trying to install NextStep 3.3 for Intel on a Pentium with 3, 1Gb SCSI
drives. When we attempted to install NextStep on drives 1 or 2, NextStep
reported that it łcould not read the drive BIOS.˛ We had to install on
drive 0. Are there any ways around this? Wešd like to install NextStep
on the second or third drive -- drives 1 or 2.
2. Is there a multi-boot utility for NextStep 3.3 similar to LILO or the
OS/2 Boot-Master? Wešd like to have NextStep and OS/2 on the same
machine.
3. Cannot get our serial mouse to work with NextStep 3.3. The mouse is
on COM1 but NextStep seems to ignore it. Do we need a driver or have we
not configured something correctly?
I realize the answers to these questions may be complicated, so if you
would prefer to just direct me to a FAQ or one of the NextStep manuals,
that would be fine. At the same time, any suggestions or input would be
really appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your kind attention and assistance.
Please respond by e-mail.
Regards,
Les M. Lunce
gulunce@uxmail.ust.hk
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From: dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there software for tape backups on black hardware?
Date: 28 Apr 1995 14:03:58 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Message-ID: <3nqske$o77@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
I have a black hardware next, and I also have a tape backup drive
(Conner 4356XP). I am being told that the best way to do backups may be
to use GNUtar. However, with the NeXT philosophy being what it is, I
would think that there MUST be a more elegant and convenient application
to do backups from a NeXT TurboColor slab. Is there?
--
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Indiana University
Bloomington, IN 47405, USA
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Is there software for tape backups on black hardware?
Message-ID: <D7rGwE.1Lw@cunews.carleton.ca>
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:00:14 GMT
dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu wrote:
: I have a black hardware next, and I also have a tape backup drive
: (Conner 4356XP). I am being told that the best way to do backups may be
: to use GNUtar. However, with the NeXT philosophy being what it is, I
: would think that there MUST be a more elegant and convenient application
: to do backups from a NeXT TurboColor slab. Is there?
Well, the best option IMHO is SafetyNet (info@systemix.com), which is an
excellent graphical tape backup system. It has excellent archive
management, using file browsers and panels in a clean, strightforward
interface.
--Chris
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Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
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From: reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
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Subject: sortmail
Date: 28 Apr 1995 08:46:23 -0700
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Summary: Looking for sortmail program
Keywords: sortmail
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the free/shareware program "sortmail"? I've looked at the familiar ftp sites to no avail.
Matthew
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From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: Problems with Ispell + french dict
Message-ID: <D7rKLJ.2Dx@athena.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 21:20:05 GMT
Bonjour,
I have just managed to install ispell + english _french dicts +
nextispell; all seems to work fine except for spellchecking french text
with accentuates characters; for instance if the text contains
probl mes;
ispell reads two words; probl and mes, ignoring the central ' '.
I did remove the 'define no8bits' option from ispell's makefile, this
did not help.
Any suggestions?
Thks/merci!
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From: jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com (Jeff Martin)
Subject: Re: Talk Daemon Message: You don't exist; Go away!
Message-ID: <1995Apr21.143748.28493@bozell.com>
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References: <3n70p8$jj3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:37:48 GMT
opinions expressed are strictly those of the user
and not necessarily those of BJK&E or its clients.
In article <3n70p8$jj3@nntp.Stanford.EDU> zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed
Zalta) writes:
> Can anyone please help me figure out why the talk daemon on my machine
> is now refusing to initiate talk sessions. When I attempt to use
> "talk", I get the error message "You don't exist. Go away." Talk has
> worked fine on my NeXTstation for the past 3 years.
I think I have heard of this problem before. Try set uid root on terminal:
hostname> su root
Password:
hostname# chmod u+s /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal
... jeff
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From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: NS3.3/hppa and HP-UX fs?
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:05:21 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Hi,
could someone please tell me if NS 3.3 for HP supports already
mounting of HP-UX file systems (on other disks)?
Thanks,
Thomas
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From: edwintam@hk.super.net (Mr. Edwin KwanTo Tam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: POP server for NS 3.0?
Date: 29 Apr 1995 02:11:19 GMT
Organization: Hong Kong Supernet
Message-ID: <3ns787$oln@tst.hk.super.net>
Hi,
I am looking for any POP server for my slab running NS 3.0.
Any pointer would be appreciated.
Thanks a lot,
Edwin Tam
edwintam@hk.super.net
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Subject: --->> Free Internet/BBS Directory
Date: 28 Apr 1995 23:14:20 GMT
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Call 305-749-6458 and login!
We offer:
The National BBS/Internet Directory
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From: loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk (Rollerblading on the Internet!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: // Putting my pix on my HOME icon???
Date: 28 Apr 95 19:30:33 GMT
Organization: South Bank University
Message-ID: <1995Apr28.193033.1@vax.sbu.ac.uk>
can anyone tell me how to put my picture on my HOME icon??! the picture is in
GIF format.
please email direct to me if possible......
// don loke
// loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk
From: jharding@thor.tjhsst.edu (John Harding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniFilter
Date: 28 Apr 1995 07:57:01 -0400
Organization: The Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nql6d$imo@thor.tjhsst.edu>
Could someone please direct me to an archive where I could find OmniFilter?
I just upgraded to NS 3.0 and can now run actual RECENT programs, so I'm
trying to get OmniWeb setup...
From: buzz@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (Bastian Schlueter)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula3,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Modula-3 partial solution
Date: 28 Apr 1995 17:49:00 GMT
Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe
Message-ID: <3nr9qd$7dr@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: 1841 <3nph4v$gmj@beatty.slip.netcom.com>
beatty@beatty.slip.netcom.com (Derek Beatty) wrote:
Hello Derek,
[...]
>The problem, it turns out, was that it was running out of memory: the
>Modula-3 runtime calls sbrk to allocate large chunks of memory, and NeXT's
>undocumented sbrk emulation is only good to 6MB. Fortunately, Modula-3
are you shure about that? The following output makes me wonder:
marvin buzz 102 (Documentation/RFC):limit
cputime unlimited
filesize unlimited
datasize 6144 kbytes <--- Looks like this made sbrk fail ?!
stacksize 512 kbytes
coredumpsize unlimited
memoryuse unlimited
No i don't have any limit set by myself, nor by my sysop (that's me of course :-)
Greetings
Bastian
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From: robe0149@gold.tc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Used Copy Of NS 3.2
Date: 28 Apr 1995 23:40:31 -0500
Organization: University of Minnesota
Message-ID: <robe0149.799130271@gold.tc.umn.edu>
I'm looking to buy a used copy of NS3.2 for my dept at the Univ Of
Minnesota. Our cube server is running on it, but I don't have the
compiler package or any of the other extras as I don't have the upgrade
CD. I would appreciate any help.
Joe Robertson
robe0149@gold.tc.umn.edu
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From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard)
Subject: Inspector Tools and Application Launching
Message-ID: <D7rHH3.7DJ@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:12:38 GMT
Greetings:
In order to launch an application with a certain type of file (say
tiff), all I need do is double click the .tiff file. I know how to change
which application gets launched by doing this, but does anybody know how to
add to the list of applications available in the WorkSpace inspector?
I want the same application that opens .tiff to open .tif but it's
not in .tif's list.
--
Mario Stargard
School of Optometry
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada
N2L 3G1
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From: michel@audenge (Michel Gil_Antoli)
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Message-ID: <1995Apr28.215420.16916@gilantoli.fdn.org>
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References: <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 21:54:20 GMT
In article <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com> kanig@swcp.com (Steven P. Kanig) writes:
> I'm currently running NEXTSTEP 2.1 on a NeXTSTation. One of my favorite
> and most useful applications is Improv (v 1.0) which works like a charm.
> I'd been considering upgrading to NS 3.3 to be able to install a
graphical
> web browser, etc., but have been told that Improv will not run on NS 3.*
> Does anybody have any definite knowledge of this? I understand that
there
> were no subsequent versions of Improv released, and Lotus has stopped
> supporting it; in fact, getting through to someone at Lotus who knows
the
> answer to this question has proved absolutely impossible. ("What's NeXT?
> You mean Windows? ...")
>
> Thanks.
Improv 1.0 very good run with NS 3.2. I work with everyday.
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From: rbz@eversoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: // Putting my pix on my HOME icon???
Date: 29 Apr 1995 12:33:12 GMT
Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc (login info (214/705-2901 - 817/571-0400))
Distribution: world
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References: <1995Apr28.193033.1@vax.sbu.ac.uk>
Summary: How do I put my picture on my Home icon?
Keywords: icon nextstep gif tiff home
loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk (Rollerblading on the Internet!) wrote:
>can anyone tell me how to put my picture on my HOME icon??! the picture is in
>GIF format.
The basic steps are:
1. Convert your picture to a 48x48 .tiff image.
2. Save in it your home directory as .dir.tiff
Also, if you save an image in your home directory as .opendir.tiff, it is used
as the image that is displayed when your are drag-and-dropping onton your home
directory.
Note: This works in any directory. You can use this technique to change the
default icons in any directory.
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From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <D7rCFM.95@pages.com>
Sender: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Organization: Pages Software Inc
References: <D7p0D4.3nw@AWT.NL>
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 18:23:46 GMT
In article <D7p0D4.3nw@AWT.NL> G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
writes:
>
> I don't see why this should alter things. I did not refer to any
> type of person involved, venture capital providers or technical
> staff. I just noted that such a decision must have been in the
> works at the moment WebPages was released.
>
Absolutely wrong. If we had made the decision to sell off our stuff before
WebPages was released, we would never have released it, nor would we have
spent thousands of dollars doing direct customer visits (and exhibiting at
the NYC NEXTSTEP Expo) during March.
> If I am really suspicious, I would say that this is the ideal
> way to handle the transfer to ITS if you ever plan one. The
> release of WebPages by Pages would have more impact than the
> release of WebPages by ITS. So, to give ITS a good chance, you
> would do it this way.
>
Absolutely wrong--we had no discussions or considerations with ITS until
the day after Internet World.
> On another track: Pages has the technical know how to extend and
> support the product. They actually say so because they need that
> staff for the Windows development. And they state that that
> implies that they cannot support NEXTSTEP any longer. They are
> just a small company after all. I would say, if it pays off, you
> can hire people.
Absolutely wrong--there are very real issues of cash flow and burn rate
involved.
> You can't have it both ways: Or you can support
> NEXTSTEP development with other people and in that case *both*
> Pages (with extra people) and ITS qualify, or you cannot and in
> that case ITS won't be able to deliver either. I am not saying
> that they won't I am only saying that if they will (and that
> seems a reasonable guess) than Pages would have been able to do
> that too. (It is not that simple of course, venture capital and
> all that).
>
Absolutely wrong--ITS is profitable and has multiple sources of income
from consulting and from other products. They are content to continue with
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep development of WebPages, because it helps them to sell
other products they have (the Neticity workstation and other Web apps).
> Any way you look, the time spent on WebPages for NEXTSTEP will
> have to be matched by the $$$ spent by the community buying it.
> Less buyers eventually means less product.
>
You're right on this one--which is why the number of supported NEXTSTEP
productivity apps has been declining.
> Let me repeat here, I am not stating that the 'suspicious' scenario
> is true. I cannot know, so any guess is probably wrong. And Bruce
> and his team have been swell guys/girls as far as I can see.
>
Well, we like to think we're swell, but, yes, your guess is dead wrong.
> But the decision like this was at least in the making (if not -
> suspicious - made) at the moment WebPages was released. You don't
> take such a decision overnight and the time between the announcement
> (timed to be during a Web conference no less) and the announcement
> implies it.
Actually, the decision to sell off our NEXTSTEP stuff was made in early
April, only after considering and exhaustively exploring all other
options. It wasn't "overnight", but almost, and was made only when all
other options were either proven infeasible or less attractive. And even
at that point, the decision wasn't irrevocable--we just decide to start
exploring it.
> Which means I fell a bit mislead, but - hey - there
> is nothing wrong with a little misleading. If Pages comes out
> and tells us that the decision was not in the making at the time
> of release of WebPages, I'll belief them. But I guess it was and
> they won't.
>
Well, wrong on all counts: you weren't misled, the decision was not in the
making at the time of WebPages's release, and I've come out twice now and
told you so.
> BTW, I wonder what ITS plans actually are with the product. Are
> they going to release a Design Model development kit? Can they?
> What about Pages' software patents on the Design Models that they
> mention in their communication? Etc.
>
You'll have to approach ITS on those issues; I won't presume to speak for
them. But it doesn't make much sense to acquire a software product and not
advance it, especially if future revenues depend upon those advances.
I had actually composed a reply giving far more details and background
behind our decisions, but felt it wasn't appropriate for public posting.
And as much angst as this may have caused in the NEXTSTEP community, every
single outside source--potential investors, potential
development/marketing partners, industry analysis, and members of the
press--have not only applauded the decision, but have usually asked, "What
took you guys so long?" I wish it were otherwise, but that's the reality
of the market and the industry. And, frankly, I have to ask myself the
same question.
Ah, well. To quote Jefferson Airplane (quoting John Wyndham), "Life is
change--how it differs from the rock." Break's over; time to get back on
my head. ..bruce..
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From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: libInterceptor_s & DoomII
In-Reply-To: bestor@spam.cs.wisc.edu's message of 27 Apr 1995 23:56:10 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Apr29110047@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3npauq$f9s@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 15:00:47 GMT
>>>>> "Gareth" == Gareth Bestor <bestor@spam.cs.wisc.edu> writes:
Gareth> I just picked up a copy of NEXTIME - OK, I admit it, I
Gareth> just got it to play DoomII :-) But apparantly I have
Gareth> verison 18 of the /usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib file
Gareth> and DoomII requires version 20, at least according to
Gareth> Omni's DoomII alhpa release notes.
Gareth> So my question is how to I go about getting the latest
Gareth> version of this? At the moment if I launch DoomII it
Gareth> gives me a fatal error
Gareth> Z_Malloc: failed on allocation of 1572924 bytes
Gareth> which may or may not be because of my having an old
Gareth> version. BTW: I'm running a 25MHZ 040 NeXTcube w/ 16MB
Gareth> and NEXTSTEP 3.2.
Gareth> Thanks,
Gareth> - Gareth
Don't bother trying it. Is is not playable on black hardware.
You will get about 1 frame /second.
Francois
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Universite de Montreal
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From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: How to have File Viewer hide dot files
Message-ID: <D7t3Kq.26K@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 17:07:38 GMT
I looked in preferences but couldn't see anything that looked relevant..
maybe I'm blind. Anyway, how can I tell the WorkSpace File Viewer not to
show me dotfiles? My home directory (and other directories) are becoming
fairly littered with them and very seldom do I really want to deal with
them directly from the GUI anyway.
--
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IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
Control: cancel <D7t3Kq.26K@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
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From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: cancel
Message-ID: <D7t4vD.4rv@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 17:35:36 GMT
<D7t3Kq.26K@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> was cancelled from within trn.
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IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: tstrohma@theodolite.ae.calpoly.edu (Trevor Strohman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD-quality I/O on black? (software&hardware)
Date: 29 Apr 1995 19:06:30 GMT
Organization: Ag Engineering Dept., Cal Poly SLO
Message-ID: <3nu2nm$pks@isnews.calpoly.edu>
What are the current options (and prices) for NeXT audio software
and hardware? I need to do 16-bit 44.1khz I/O (digital in/out not
required) and I'd like some kind of manipulation software to go
with the hardware. Possibilities?
Thanks
Trevor Strohman
tstrohma@theodolite.ae.calpoly.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next World, Magazine?
Date: 29 Apr 1995 04:44:05 -0000
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3nsg6l$b4g@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3npnkl$aj4@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
BLECHMAN writes
> Is there anybody out there who can tell me if there are Magizines or
> newsletters called Next World, Next Step, and Open Step Solutions? If so,
> do you know who they are published by.
> Also, I need some information on third party Graphics applications
> available for NEXTSTEP.
>
The best way to get the product information is on Stepwise
(descriptions of many many products and contact information for ISVs)...
http://www.stepwise.com
the graphics stuff is under
http://www.stepwise.com/ThirdParty/Products/Graphics.html
But then again, I might be biased. :-)
--
- Scott Anguish -
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From: npratt@xmission.xmission.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Date: 29 Apr 1995 09:29:48 -0600
Organization: XMission Internet Access
Message-ID: <3ntm1c$t50@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <D7p0D4.3nw@AWT.NL> <D7rCFM.95@pages.com>
To Bruce Webster (I hope you'll see this and comment on it).
Bruce,
When Pages was first released, I made a public statement here on the
net indicating a suspicion that Pages used a C++ core with the
Objective-C/NS AppKit wrapper layer for the user interface. You
not only promptly denied this, but offered numerous examples and
info on how Pages is "objects to the core", and very much depends
on the dynamic nature of Objective-C (as opposed to the static nature
of C++). I thanked you publicly for the info, and publicly withdrew
my critique.
But now, if you go chasing the Windows market, how are you going to
deal with the non-dynamic nature of the Windows development
environments? The only Windows environments that compete with NS
are the Smalltalk ones.
Are you really going to go down the C++ road now? You know the
limitations there as well as anyone (yes, I bought your new "Pitfalls of OO"
book, and I highly recommend it). You know very well that much
of the power in NS is due to the dynamic nature of Obj-C, and this is
missing in most of the Windows dev environments.
How about it? Comments?
Thanks,
Nevin Pratt ***
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there software for tape backups on black hardware?
Date: 29 Apr 1995 23:36:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3nuiil$khr@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3nqske$o77@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <D7rGwE.1Lw@cunews.carleton.ca>
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) writes:
>dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu wrote:
>: I have a black hardware next, and I also have a tape backup drive
>: (Conner 4356XP). I am being told that the best way to do backups may be
>: to use GNUtar. However, with the NeXT philosophy being what it is, I
>: would think that there MUST be a more elegant and convenient application
>: to do backups from a NeXT TurboColor slab. Is there?
>Well, the best option IMHO is SafetyNet (info@systemix.com), which is an
>excellent graphical tape backup system. It has excellent archive
>management, using file browsers and panels in a clean, strightforward
>interface.
I'll heartily second this. SafetyNet is one of the quiet gems of NEXTSTEP
software -- it just works, period, and very pleasantly, too. Saved our
butts numerous times.
--
Steve Weintz * Art Director & Coding Manager * New Media Publishing, Inc.
(217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) * http://www.melvin.com/
indy@melvin.com * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820
-= Crass Announcement of a Commercial WWW Publication Goes Here =-
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv on NS 3.* ??
Date: 29 Apr 1995 23:59:51 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3nujtn$9h@danmeasure.dannug.dk>
References: <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com>
In article <D7D4v9.4B7@swcp.com> kanig@swcp.com (Steven P. Kanig) writes:
> I'm currently running NEXTSTEP 2.1 on a NeXTSTation. One of my favorite
> and most useful applications is Improv (v 1.0) which works like a charm.
> I'd been considering upgrading to NS 3.3 to be able to install a
graphical
> web browser, etc., but have been told that Improv will not run on NS 3.*
> Does anybody have any definite knowledge of this? I understand that
there
> were no subsequent versions of Improv released, and Lotus has stopped
> supporting it; in fact, getting through to someone at Lotus who knows
the
> answer to this question has proved absolutely impossible. ("What's NeXT?
> You mean Windows? ...")
>
> Thanks.
We run NEXTSTEP v. 3.2 and Lotus Improv Rel. 1.0 ( v108r0 ) on black
harware.
No problems at all.
Good luck
Soren Wang sw@dannug.dk NeXTMail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar Systems)
Subject: Re: How to have File Viewer hide dot files
References: <D7t3Kq.26K@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Organization: Cedar Systems
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 00:19:57 +0000
Message-ID: <799201197snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <D7t3Kq.26K@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca "Jerry Kuch" writes:
> I looked in preferences but couldn't see anything that looked relevant..
> maybe I'm blind. Anyway, how can I tell the WorkSpace File Viewer not to
> show me dotfiles? My home directory (and other directories) are becoming
> fairly littered with them and very seldom do I really want to deal with
> them directly from the GUI anyway.
>
In preferences, select the UNIX option. Un-select the UNIX Expert switch
and those files should be hidden.
Paul.
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Feynman.app
Date: 30 Apr 1995 01:20:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <3nuole$gm0@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
I had a standalone application called Feynman.app which was an
extension of Draw
and included segments of feynman diagrams like wavy lines, dashed
lines, zigzag, etc. Unfortunately my external disk crashed and I did
not have a backup of this application. I could not find it on the net
using archie. Can someone point to a location, or mail me the source
code, or binaries (for black hardware)(uuencoded)? I will appreciate
it, thanks,
P. S. This is not DiagramFeynman which uses diagram! from lighthouse
design.
--
+----------------------------------+------------------------------+
|Yadin Y. Goldschmidt | |
|Professor of Physics | voice: (412)624-9024 |
|Dept. of Physics and Astronomy | fax: (412)624-9163 |
|University of Pittsburgh | e-mail: |
|Pittsburgh PA 15260 | yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu |
+----------------------------------+------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9504292301.AA16245@alleg.EDU>
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Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 19:01:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Lynx
Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com
e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at asked:
Is Lynx available for NS/black. Is it free? Where can
I get it?
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/lynx.2.37.N.b.tar.gz
ftp://129.187.249.15/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/lynx.2.2.NI.b.tar.gz
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
If I understood the man page I wouldn't have asked the question.
From: GH Chinoy <hussain@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: // Putting my pix on my HOME icon???
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 01:40:32 -0500
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950429013928.614I-100000@avocado>
References: <1995Apr28.193033.1@vax.sbu.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk
In-Reply-To: <1995Apr28.193033.1@vax.sbu.ac.uk>
Don,
1. Convert icon to .tiff format (possibly IconBuilder? Definately
OmniImage)
2. rename icon as .dir.tiff and place in directory whose icon you
want replaced.
Hussain
___ __________________________________________________________
/\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy
\/__/ 314/591-4955 vox
NEXTSTEP, 314/935-5799 fax
baby hussain@artsci.wustl.edu net
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~hussain/ web
On 28 Apr 1995, Rollerblading on the Internet! wrote:
> can anyone tell me how to put my picture on my HOME icon??! the picture is in
> GIF format.
>
> please email direct to me if possible......
>
>
>
> // don loke
> // loked@vax.sbu.ac.uk
>
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cjones@netcom.com (Carl Jones)
Subject: Driver for HP LJ+
Message-ID: <cjonesD7tuM6.IKv@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:51:42 GMT
Sender: cjones@netcom16.netcom.com
Anyone know where I can get a driver that works for an HP LaserJet+ ?
you can answer here or email me at cjones@netcom.com
thanks,
carl jones
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cjones@netcom.com (Carl Jones)
Subject: Driver for Gateway/2000 TeleFax Modem
Message-ID: <cjonesD7tuqD.Iqo@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:54:13 GMT
Sender: cjones@netcom16.netcom.com
I have a GW/2K with the Gateway TeleFax 14.4 Modem.
any ideas on a driver that will make it work?
you can answer here or email me at: cjones@netcom.com
thanks,
carl jones
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PDF Reader
Date: 30 Apr 1995 06:31:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3nvas6$h07@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
For once, an answer without a question -- I just ftp'd GhostScript
3.33 from ftp.cs.wisc.edu, the one with PDF support built in.
(Aladdin's version). It built with very few changes on NEXTSTEP,
with the Cub'X X libraries. I can read the few PDF files I've tried
just fine (I haven't tried any bitmaps yet) under Cub'X. It's not
NEXTSTEP exactly, but if you have an X server, try it out.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-8833
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: sahirns@menger.stevens-tech.edu (Sahir N. Siddiqui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Circuit-drawing software?
Date: 30 Apr 1995 05:13:45 GMT
Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology, Hoboken, NJ
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SAHIRNS.95Apr30011345@menger.stevens-tech.edu>
Does anyone know of any shareware or otherwise software that I can use
to draw electrical/electronic symbols - like resistors, capicitors,
inductors, simple gate symbols, etc...
Much obliged!
-s
--
Sahir N. Siddiqui Res: (201) 217-0952
S-1351 Castle Point Station, Hoboken NJ 07030 ))))
oo-)
Email: sahirns@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu :_/
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Author of [formatter v1.2], where ?
Date: 30 Apr 1995 08:57:31 GMT
Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK
Message-ID: <3nvjdr$qfq@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk>
I have a few questions to Rory Bolt, the author of [formatter v1.2], but
the rory@fps.com bounce back. Can anybody tell me how can I contact him ?
Mr.Sai-kee Wong
From: trestrail@delphi.com (Jeff Trestrail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP Software for NEXTStep
Date: 30 Apr 1995 12:33:10 GMT
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Message-ID: <9504300753591.The_Win-D.trestrail@delphi.com>
In article <3nn693$fti@uuneo.neosoft.com>, ghost@ghost.neosoft.com (Mark C.
Allman) writes: > In article <D7nx6y.DA@mrk.com> jerald@mrk.com (Jerald
Dawson) writes: > > Hi All
> >
> > Was wondering if someone could tell me where I could find a good SLIP or PPP
> > implementation for NEXTStep/fip.
> >
> > Thanx in advance
> >
> > jerald
> > --
> > jerald dawson * Owner / Consultant * Dawson Computer Services
> > NeXTmail - jerald@mrk.com |
> > phone - (708) 526-3727 | Windows 95? Should be WinEver!
>
> PPP:
>
> From a recent inquiy of my own:
> Quote:
> Plenty of source avalible, check out merit.edu or wuarchive.wustl.edu.
> Merit has ppp-2.1.2 and is easy to get to, wuarchive has everything I
> have seen (ppp-2.1.2, dp2.x, dp3.x, ...) but is much harder to get into.
>
> http://www.MorningStar.com/
> They sell commercial ppp s/w
>
Take a look at ftp.duq.edu for a NeXT specific version of PPP 2.2.
Jeff Trestrail
trestrail@delphi.com
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS3.3/hppa and HP-UX fs?
Date: 30 Apr 1995 17:10:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Message-ID: <3o0gap$5i1@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <D7rMoy.8C9@prz.tu-berlin.de>
In article <D7rMoy.8C9@prz.tu-berlin.de>,
Thomas Wolfram <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>could someone please tell me if NS 3.3 for HP supports already
>mounting of HP-UX file systems (on other disks)?
No it does not. Although you can get around this by using NFS and
remote mounting it from an HP-UX machine.
Ken
--
Ken Lui, klui@corp.hp.com 3000 Hanover Street MS 20CG
Computing & Technology Services Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA
Client/Server Engineering 1.415.857.3230 FAX 1.415.857.5518
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Who makes "Eloquent"; where do I get it?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 19:16:36 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950430201636.1240AACUI.malc@daneel>
References: <3nlp90$b5g@digdug.pencom.com> <3nooft$rjf@natasha.rmii.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Sorry 'bout this Dan, but...
:-)
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: Cheri Smith <cheri@sherlock.take3.com>
Subject: PRESS RELEASE: NEWS AND MAIL APP STILL ELOQUENT, LESS $$$$
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:53:49 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-To: Cheri Smith <cheri@sherlock.take3.com>
CONTACT:
Take 3
P.O. Box 40
Cedar, MI 49621-0040
(616) 228-6556
eloquent_info@take3.com
PRESS RELEASE: NEWS AND MAIL APP STILL ELOQUENT, LESS $$$$
Cedar, MI -- Take 3 is pleased to announce *low* *low* educational
and user group pricing on Eloquent(tm), the most advanced news and
mail application available for NEXTSTEP. The reduced price of $50,
which is available to students, educational institutions and qualified
NEXTSTEP/Openstep user group members, means that now even more people
can experience the benefits of Eloquent.
Eloquent has all the familiar features you have come to expect from
the traditional NEXTSTEP mail and news agents, but it also has
advanced capabilities that simplify routine tasks and let you
customize the program to adapt it to your needs. A variety of message
formats, address books, and mailboxes are supported, which means you
won't have to give up anything in the way of compatibility when making
the transition to Eloquent.
A quad-fat demo version for NEXTSTEP 3.1 or higher is available from
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/demos/mail/Eloquent.2.01.NIHS.tar.gz
A version for NEXTSTEP 3.0 on black hardware is available by request.
Eloquent's retail price is $175. Eloquent supports the following protocols:
NNTP and IMAP for news; POP, IMAP and SMTP for mail.
THE USER GROUP PROGRAM
This program is designed to let user groups take advantage of volume
discounts that large organizations have traditionally enjoyed. Take
3 is able to offer this price due to the reduced overhead and support
associated with group purchases. There are two steps to qualifying
your user group:
1) Designate one person as an administrative and technical contact.
2) Members of your user group much purchase a minimum of 10 licenses.
Take 3 will provide support for users through the group's contact.
Each group is only required to qualify once; after the two criteria
above have been met, additional orders can be sent in with no minimum
number restrictions.
If you would like more information on how you can participate in the
program, please e-mail eloquent_info@take3.com.
Cheri Smith
Take 3
From: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Feynman.app
Date: 30 Apr 1995 14:21:39 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <950430201921.1240AACUJ.malc@daneel>
References: <3nuole$gm0@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
I have a copy I can NeXTMail if you want...?
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .snd, .au, and .wav player?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:16:36 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950430211636.1240AACUQ.malc@daneel>
References: <3md3if$4ls@xpat.postech.ac.kr> <3mf1qh$ct1@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <radium.3.00139526@fox.nstn.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I've also written a WorkSpace Inspector for .au, .wav. and .aiff files...
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/sound/MMSoundsInspector.bundle.
2.3.NIH.tar.Z
There are very, very occasional bugs with this, and I'm thinking of altering
it a bit when I have time (particularly if I can find a way to play files
directly without having to create objects out of them... I *think* I know
how to do this now, but it may take a while), but it usually works OK (there
are a couple of bugs in NEXTSTEP which mess things up though).
If there's any demand I'll upload a version compiled for Sparc (since I just
installed Developer 3.3).
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Feynman.app
Date: 1 May 1995 02:27:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <3o1gvb$lti@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <3nuole$gm0@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
I have received a copy from Malcolm Crawford. Please don't send any
more mail about this. Thank you Malcolm.
Yadin.
--
+----------------------------------+------------------------------+
|Yadin Y. Goldschmidt | |
|Professor of Physics | voice: (412)624-9024 |
|Dept. of Physics and Astronomy | fax: (412)624-9163 |
|University of Pittsburgh | e-mail: |
|Pittsburgh PA 15260 | yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu |
+----------------------------------+------------------------------+
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 1 May 1995 04:15:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3o1n8d$qda@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
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next-advocacy-d
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ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: OmniFilter
Message-ID: <D7vFA2.3sn@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3nql6d$imo@thor.tjhsst.edu>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 23:15:37 GMT
In article <3nql6d$imo@thor.tjhsst.edu> jharding@thor.tjhsst.edu (John
Harding) writes:
> Could someone please direct me to an archive where I could find
OmniFilter?
> I just upgraded to NS 3.0 and can now run actual RECENT programs, so I'm
> trying to get OmniWeb setup...
>
FTP.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
--
__ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10
/\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
\/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18
NeXTSTEP! NeXTmail und MIME erwuenscht! | Work: +49 89 29 02 54 18
From: david@onestep.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VirtSpace
Date: 1 May 1995 08:32:31 GMT
Organization: EUnet GB
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o26av$8f5@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Hi,
Anybody know what happended to VirtSpace. I know that Pinnacle
Research's WetPaint is now owned/distributed by lighthouse. Did the
company pull out of NS. Is there a public domain copy of VirtSpace ?
Any help would be appreciated.
--
Regards David Knight
OneStep Solutions plc | UK phone: 01702 551010 | Vendors of NS
351-359 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | Hardware, Apps
Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | MCCAs, Networks
Essex | | ISDN, Training
From: jjhuang@atm.cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there perl-4.036 for NS3.3/SPARC?
Date: 1 May 1995 08:59:08 GMT
Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Message-ID: <3o27ss$37u@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Hello all,I want to find perl-4.036 to make majordomo work,is there package
for installing perl-4.036 for NS3.3/SPARC? If I can find one,I can immediately
install NS3.3 on SPARC5,but if there isn't,then....I have to spend time to
read manual,and compile perl. :~~~
Thanks in advance....
--
Albert Jiunn-jye Huang(śŔŤTłÇ) <u8213006@cc.nctu.edu.tw> (MIME is ok)
<albert@ccnext1.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Dept. of Communication Eng. (NeXTMail is welcome,but not stable site)
National Chiao-Tung University
Member of NCTU NeXT User Group
From: rueiwun@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ruei-wun Tu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem after upgraded to 3.3 ???
Date: 1 May 1995 10:23:49 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Unix Users Group
Message-ID: <3o2crl$11ac@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
Hello,
I have a Intel486-66 machine running NSFIP 3.3. After I upgraded
from 3.2, the machine became very slow sometimes. Especially when I try
to move around a window within desktop.
Occasionally I found that some of the applications I am running
didn't actually "QUIT" after I quit them. For example, new version
TipTop and TeXmenu. I put them in the dock area. After I quit either
TipTop or TeXmenu, the three dots in the left corner of the icon never
show up. I try to launch them again, they never let me do that.
I couldn't found those processes by using "ps -aux" command in terminal.
I noticed that everytime this situation happened, my window movement
became very slow.
Finally, I have to logout, even reboot the machine to get
everything working back. I am wondering if anyone has the same problem.
Any suggestions welcome. Thanks...
Rueiwun Tu
rueiwun@gas.uug.arizona.edu
P.S. I found a way to solve the situation correlated with TipTop except
logout or reboot. That is, I have to run and quit kermit after I quit
the TipTop. After doing this, I found that three dots in TipTop icon
show up...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: The Once and Future OS
Message-ID: <D7wH65.3Bt@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
References: <D7p0D4.3nw@AWT.NL> <D7rCFM.95@pages.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:54:05 GMT
In article <D7rCFM.95@pages.com>, bwebster@pages.com says...
[a reaction on]
>In article <D7p0D4.3nw@AWT.NL> G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Just for the record. Had I seen the first reaction of Bruce to my first post, I
wouldn't have written my `suspicious' scenario (of which I did state that it was
probably wrong anyway). I have no reason to doubt Bruce's statements on the
order of events.
As I have written Bruce privately, this thread might say more about me than
about Pages, since "The Landlord trusts his guests, as if they were himself"
(Dutch version of "One judges someone's character by one's own").
Thread closed as far as I am concerned.
--Gerben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: POP server for NS 3.0?
Message-ID: <D7wHGy.3DB@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
References: <3ns787$oln@tst.hk.super.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 13:00:34 GMT
In article <3ns787$oln@tst.hk.super.net>, edwintam@hk.super.net says...
>
>Hi,
Have a look at the ftp.nl.net:/pub/comp/next area.
(Currently i486 & m68k, I have a quad-fat executable but did not have the
opportunity to put it there yet (disk crash on ftp.nl.net).
--Gerben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: Is there perl-4.036 for NS3.3/SPARC?
Message-ID: <D7wLpt.FJv@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3o27ss$37u@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:32:17 GMT
Jiunn-jye Huang (jjhuang@atm.cm.nctu.edu.tw) wrote:
: Hello all,I want to find perl-4.036 to make majordomo work,is there package
: for installing perl-4.036 for NS3.3/SPARC? If I can find one,I can immediately
: install NS3.3 on SPARC5,but if there isn't,then....I have to spend time to
: read manual,and compile perl. :~~~
: Thanks in advance....
Have you checked the system itself? My 3.3/MOTO came with Perl included.
(Much to my surprise....more stealth marketing by NeXT).
later
j
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jbright@stimpy (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: using NeXTSTEP as a firewall??
Message-ID: <D7wM1E.Fz8@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3nihto$k03@metro.atlanta.com>
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:39:14 GMT
Joseph K. Vossen (jkv@sware.com) wrote:
: With all of the connections to the internet being added everyday, a lot of
: companies are putting firewalls in place to protect their corporate
: network. I realize that it might be considered a waste of a good
: gui-based system for this [and that there are more specialized systems out
: there to perform this task], but has anyone considered using a
: NeXTSTEP-based system for a firewall? If you considered this and are
: using it, what changes did you have to make? If you considered this and
: used something else, I would be interested in knowing why.
</cloak>
Personally, I wouldn't for a number of reasons:
_Does NS support Dual-homed hosts? As far as I know, no.
_It isn't that widely used, so the security implications arent' well
known (except for a bunch of folks in Black Hats that don't say much)_
_Not very easy to rip extraneous stuff out (Interface, NetInfo, etc).
_Other stuff
Personally, I'd take the extra next systems that you have and use them as
mail or news servers, or maybe a web server. Put the firewall on a
dual homed machine with an OS that you can completely gut (or use a
commercial implementation- The TIS firewall toolkit was good for it's
day, but since it doesn't have multihomed support, I don't have that much
trust for it). When I say gut, I mean tear out everything that you don't need
...the firwalls that I set up have things like X,NFS,RPC,UUCP all gone...
not a trace....but then again I'm paid to be paranoid.
later
j
<cloak>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: daemon9@netcom.com (Route)
Subject: SCSI DAT tape drive Backup prog needed
Message-ID: <daemon9D7wyzF.HDL@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 19:18:50 GMT
Sender: daemon9@netcom12.netcom.com
I have a Conner 2 gig internal SCSI-II DAT and need a backup
program. Does anyone know where I can find such a utility for
NSFIP 3.3?
Thanks.
--
..............................................................................
.oO Infinity Oo.
(*Route)
finger for more info, including pgp key
url ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/da/daemon9 for the pursuit of knowledge
..............................................................................
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.frame
Subject: FrameMaker Postscript files and psnup
Date: 1 May 1995 18:12:28 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3o38ac$185g@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I use Frame 3 on NextStep
Unlike most other applications Postscript files produced from FrameMaker
-> Print ->Save do not seem to respond to psnup. That is when I send
these to my printer I get either a blank page, or only a single
thumbnail on the page. Is there a trick around this?
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: reichman@alcor.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Perl-5 ? and simple Q abt Lynx
Date: 1 May 1995 17:57:40 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@alcor.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3o4024$r6u@alcor.usc.edu>
Summary: Where can I get Perl 5 compiled for black 3.3?
Keywords: Perl Lynx
I am looking for Perl-5 (if it exists) and already precompiled or set up as a pkg for 3.3 M68k - I have no developer stuff. I found a version of Perl-4 in a pkg form but when I downloaded it (Munich or cs.orst) it's header was corrupted or something like that. Anyway. would like to have Perl since there are some great scripts out there for Perl.
BTW Novice asks: what is Lynx and should I have it if I'm not a developer?
Matt
--
"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
From: drum@jaxnet.com
Newsgroups: de.comp.infosystems,de.comm.internet,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sources.wanted
Subject: Re: --->> Free Internet/BBS Directory
Date: Mon, 01 May 95 22:26:12 EDT
Organization: JaxNet BBS (904) 292-4567
Message-ID: <NEWTNews.11620.799381821.drum@jaxnet.jaxnet.com.jax.jaxnet.com>
References: <3nrssc$hpm$3@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
FREE !?! Since when is calling LONG DISTANCE Free ???
I pay 11.5 CENTS an hour to be on the NET..
If that's Not Free, it's damn close..
Besides, this whole thing is OFF TOPIC..
COMP.SOURCES.WANTED isn't BIZ.MY.PRODUCT !!
Broken Drum...
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: OmniWeb suggestion.. remove caching.
Date: 1 May 1995 17:24:21 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3o35g5$5fr@news.next.com>
References: <robertznezy68y8aqm@steffi.dircon.co.uk> <D7JAo8.Ho@awt.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: makemail 2.7
In article <D7JAo8.Ho@awt.nl>, Gerben Wierda <G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL> wrote:
>Well, I would agree (as I am running a caching proxy WWW server myself,
>which itself is using another proxy...). But not all WWW servers (noticably
>WWW.NeXT.com and WWW.Pages.com) are recent. They use the real old
>server from the httpd1.3 package out on the net. That server package should be
>removed as soon as possible IMHO, since it doesn't support the conditional get
>that caching servers rely on. And it spreading over the NEXTSTEP community
>only makes matters worse.
NeXT is not running NCSA's httpd1.3. We aren't running an NCSA server at
all.
--
Dan Grillo dan_grillo@next.com (415) 780-2963 now in Bld1, back, Rside
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Perl-5 ? and simple Q abt Lynx
Date: 2 May 1995 02:17:31 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3o44nr$frs@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3o4024$r6u@alcor.usc.edu>
Keywords: Perl Lynx
reichman@alcor.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) writes:
>I am looking for Perl-5 (if it exists) and already precompiled or set up as a pkg for 3.3 M68k - I have no developer stuff. I found a version of Perl-4 in a pkg form but when I downloaded it (Munich or cs.orst) it's header was corrupted or something like that. Anyway. would like to have Perl since there are some great scripts out there for Perl.
I'm not sure, but I think there's one around -- the NeXTanswer on
building SATAN for NEXTSTEP says to use Perl-5. We should probably
get it quick, come to think of it :-)
>BTW Novice asks: what is Lynx and should I have it if I'm not a developer?
Lynx is a good text-only World Wide Web browser. No graphics, but
the text and links work great. A good tool for checking your Web
pages for the broadest audience. I have it compiled for Motorola and
HP architectures, if you want it.
>Matt
>--
>"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Administrator's abuse of authority
Message-ID: <1995May2.122604.717@queens-belfast.ac.uk>
From: S.Fitzpatrick@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick)
Date: 2 May 95 12:26:03 GMT
I'll try this again. The news administrator is determined that this topic
not be discussed: he is deliberately removing all articles on what I
regard as a serious issue - the purpose of this news server and the
responsibility and authority of the administrator to censor articles based
on his personal whim.
In article <1995May1.101434.673@queens-belfast.ac.uk>
newsmgr@queens-belfast.ac.uk writes:
There is no censorship policy here.
I also would delete useless messages as has happened to the ones
there seems to a big fuss about.
I'll try again, as my original reply to this doesn't seem to have got
through.
1. That, to me, is de facto censorship. Maybe someone should have informed
us users that only "weighty" postings are allowed.
2. The big fuss wasn't about the messages - it was about them being
deleted for no reason we'd been told, and about the difficulty in getting
a reason.
I've moved this discussion from the qub.admin group as that is now
moderated, and the moderator is extremely fussy as to what gets through.
When I originally posted this message there, I got the following reply:
You did not comment on the whole message.
The original message is still in that news group is anyone wishes to
check. I believe I commented on the theme of the message, but in any case
I would object to any suggestion that a reply must address every sentence
in a message.
--
Stephen Fitzpatrick, Department of Computer Science,
Queen's University of Belfast, Belfast BT7 1NN, N. Ireland.
S.Fitzpatrick@cs.qub.ac.uk (ASCII, NeXT, maybe MIME)
PGP key via WWW: <URL:http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/~S.Fitzpatrick/>
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can't use Format w/ PS document
Date: 2 May 1995 10:16:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3o50p6$pv8@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Does anyone know why Format doesn't work while
viewing a postscript document under Preview?
Also, is it possible to print every other document
turn the paper over and print the other missed
half to have double sided copies? Is there another
more versatile postscript viewer out there?
thanks
pc
From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTeX2HTML and NeXT?
Date: 02 May 1995 12:50:01 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ANDERSON.95May2085001@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
I'd like to use LaTeX2HTML to convert various things I have in LaTeX
files to make them available via WWW. To get it up, though, there
are a variety of support programs required. Perl I have, and I picked
up and built netpbm, but it seems unreasonable that I should have to
set up a large and complex PostScript clone (GhostScript) on a machine
whose native language (just about) is PostScript.
So, my question: Is anyone using LaTeX2HTML with NeXTstep? And if so,
what did you do about the places where it invokes GhostScript
(primarily in pstogif)?
--Steve Anderson
<anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
From: kjt@copper.cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner (Staff))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to have File Viewer hide dot files
Date: 2 May 1995 13:23:40 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3o5bos$15f@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
References: <799201197snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
In article <799201197snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> Cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar
Systems) writes:
| In article <D7t3Kq.26K@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
| gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca "Jerry Kuch" writes:
|
| > I looked in preferences but couldn't see anything that looked
relevant..
| > maybe I'm blind. Anyway, how can I tell the WorkSpace File Viewer not
to
| > show me dotfiles? My home directory (and other directories) are
becoming
| > fairly littered with them and very seldom do I really want to deal
with
| > them directly from the GUI anyway.
| >
|
| In preferences, select the UNIX option. Un-select the UNIX Expert switch
| and those files should be hidden.
|
| Paul.
You also get them if you ask for a dot file. Do command-u (update) to make
them disappear again. Ken
From: sappenz@pinfo201.informatik.uni-mannheim.de (S"oren Appenzeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT-Mail on other Platforms..???
Date: 2 May 1995 12:41:39 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni Mannheim
Message-ID: <3o59a3$2v3@trumpet.uni-mannheim.de>
Hy,
does anybody know software for Solaris, Linux or other platforms than NeXT for
reading NeXT-Mail ?
Iave the Problem of a mixed LAN of Suns(running Solaris) and black NeXTs.
Some user enjoy the NeXT-Mail-standart, using Graphic and Rich-Text. But some
only read mail on the Suns. This causes sometimes Problems, because they forget
to send only ASCII to the Sun-User...
So, if there a way to handel this (maybe with a Filterprogramm ?!?), write me
please.
Thanks,
Soeren.
From: scott@wsc.com ( Bill Scott )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mesa spreadsheet by Athena Design - function for bond calculations
Date: 1 May 1995 17:04:25 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3o34ap$9ff@cerberus.wsc.com>
If there is anyone out there using Mesa for bond calculations that has
purchased or developed Add-Ins to do bond calculations such as yield, pay
dates and date calculations please e-mail me. We are currently trying to
solve this problem and are reviewing having a firm called Tech Hackers
port their bond Add-Ins to Mesa (their Add-Ins are available for other
spreadsheets) or purchasing the C code and creating the Add-Ins ourselves.
I am interested in finding out if anyone else has tackled this problem and
what solutions were used.
Thanks
scott@wsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: Re: How to have File Viewer hide dot files
Message-ID: <1995May1.213822.2084@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado
References: <799201197snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 21:38:22 GMT
Cedar Systems writes
...
> Original question: how can I tell the WorkSpace File Viewer not to
> show me dotfiles?
>
You can hide other non-dot files by putting their names, one to a
line, in the .hidden file in your home directory. They will be shown
only when dot files are shown.
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: waiming@cs.ust.hk (Wong Wing Kin)
Subject: Questions about Termina.app
Message-ID: <1995May2.140533.28135@uxmail.ust.hk>
Sender: usenet@uxmail.ust.hk
Organization: The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 14:05:33 GMT
Hello,
I would like to know whether it is possible to change the foreground and background
color of the terminal.app bundled in NeXTSTEP.
Thank you for any information :)
waiming
--
"Stupid people do stupid things" Forrest Gump
So... please forgive me if I do stupid things :)
waiming@cs.ust.hk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Administrator's abuse of authority
Message-ID: <1995May2.122817.718@queens-belfast.ac.uk>
From: S.Fitzpatrick@cs.qub.ac.uk (Stephen Fitzpatrick)
Date: 2 May 95 12:28:16 GMT
References: <1995May2.122604.717@queens-belfast.ac.uk>
My apologies. I hit new post when looking at the wrong news group. The
message was supposed to go to a local group.
(Something here is mal-configured; I couldn't cancel the posting.)
--
Stephen Fitzpatrick, Department of Computer Science,
Queen's University of Belfast, Belfast BT7 1NN, N. Ireland.
S.Fitzpatrick@cs.qub.ac.uk (ASCII, NeXT, maybe MIME)
PGP key via WWW: <URL:http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/~S.Fitzpatrick/>
From: Wesley C. Smith <wes@take3.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Who makes "Eloquent"; where do I get it?
Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 00:37:16 GMT
Organization: Take 3
Message-ID: <950501203716.637AAABE.wes@sherlock.take3.com>
References: <3nlp90$b5g@digdug.pencom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Keywords: Eloquent
In article <3nlp90$b5g@digdug.pencom.com> robin@pencom.com (Robin D.
Wilson) writes:
> I've heard of a NEXTSTEP based newsreader called "Eloquent". It is
> supposed to support threads, and other nice stuff. I'd like to know
> where to get it, and who makes it. Anybody?
Eloquent is make by Take 3 and is available directly from Take 3
<eloquent_sales@take3.com> for for more info <eloquent_info@take3.com>
Eloquent does support threads in newsgroups/mailboxes, sorts incoming
messages and does have "other nice stuff" -- with even more goodies on the
way :-)
Wesley C. Smith
wes@take3.com NeXT, MIME, ASCII, SUN, Microsoft
Take 3 (616) 228-6556 phone
P.O. Box 40
Cedar, MI 49621-0040
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TipTop's port redirecter and OmniWeb
Date: 2 May 95 12:32:11 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.799417931@coricopat>
References: <3np3ib$74e@godzilla.zeta.org.au>
Keywords: OmniWeb TipTop http nntp
gshaw@zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw) writes:
>I am using TipTop for my comms from NeXT to my internet service provider.
>(Great Product). One of the really neat features of TipTop is that it can
>redirect socket (I think) calls from a port number on the local machine to
>the same port on the service provider end. Actually this work in done
>with term which is available and will work separately form TipTop.
[munch]
>How can I do this for OmniWeb? I knwo the port is 80 for http but
>redirecting this does nothing. All the service provider info relates
>quite specifically to a SLIP connection and windows slip at that so I
>don't expect much knowledge or help from the local quarter.
Simply redirecting a port won't do, since a WWW app connects to different
machines depending on where the URLs point to. It will work however
if you have a proxy cache instaled somewhere on the network you
connect to. Redirect the Port that the Proxy server listents to,
and configure your local OmniWeb to use localhost:PORTNUMBER as
a Proxy. Tested it once, but don't really use it yet.
Hope this helps,
Chris
--
"I ride tandem with a random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
From: novoluc@haven.ios.com (Luc Novovitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD problem & 3.2
Date: 3 May 1995 00:14:30 GMT
Organization: Internet Online Services
Message-ID: <3o6ht6$ok5@ankh.iia.org>
Well...
I got the driver for my Adaptec 2842, and I'm trying to install NS 3.2.
Everything goes fine, until it tries to deal with the cd rom.
It's a Sanyo plain vanilla scsi CRD-250S. Seems to recognize it, but
during the installation process, after the message 'resetting scsi bus'
the installation process gives me:
sd3:Sanyo CRD-250S 1.19
Registering: sd3 as target LUN0 at sc0
Registering:sd3a
sd3:waiting for drive to come...
(at this point the led on the drive starts to blinks, short double blinks
every second or so)
sd3:Disk not ready
Any idea/suggestion/help will be highly appreciated.
(Please do not tell me I have to go buy another cd...)
Cheers (anyway...)
/ln
From: rft@raven (Robert F Tobler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 2 May 1995 13:41:38 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o5cqi$82f@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3nmhi6$nq9@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
With respect to the WriteUp 1.2 / OpenWrite 1.1 comparison I have a question:
Does WriteUp 1.2 still have only flat styles? Or have they included
hierarchical styles (aka OpenWrite / MS Word)?
Thanks in advance for any information,
Robert F. Tobler
---------------------------------------------------------------
-- Robert F. Tobler -- rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at --
-- Institute of Computer Graphics -- +43 (1) 588 01-4585 --
-- Technical University of Vienna -- FAX +43 (1) 5874932 --
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Questions about Termina.app
Date: 2 May 1995 17:27:30 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3o5q22$79d@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <1995May2.140533.28135@uxmail.ust.hk>
Yes, under NS 3.3. No under NS 3.2.
Wong Wing Kin (waiming@cs.ust.hk) wrote:
: I would like to know whether it is possible to change the foreground and background
: color of the terminal.app bundled in NeXTSTEP.
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance (ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu)
AGSM at UCLA
From: wjs@foom (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame v3.2 for NEXTSTEP -- no upgrade fee necessary
Followup-To: comp.text.frame,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 21 Apr 1995 23:50:21 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3n9gbt$8np@gaea.titan.org>
References: <3n1vs8$aag@sparkle.soltec.com> <3n8pu3$jis@sparkle.soltec.com>
J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
> If you have a previous version of FrameMaker with a legitamate license
> number (such as v3.0), all you need to do is type in the new license
> code for v3.2 and go. Neither Omni nor Lighthouse thought ahead
> enough to require a new license code for the upgrade Lighthouse
> charges hundreds for.
>
> The new version is hardly worth upgrading to anyhow, after running it
> in demo mode with some documents I made with a previously purchased
> FrameMaker for NS, v3.2 seems to have the same bugs and very little to
> justify the huge upgrade pricetag.
And then J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
: I think my article wasn't as clear as it could have been--my intention
: (and my opinion) is to only say that this app upgrade is not worth the
: money.
It sure read a lot like you were advising people to steal software.
It isn't the licensing code that makes this illegal, you know; even if
there were no licensing code at all in FrameMaker it'd still be
illegal to steal 3.2.
It's this kind of attitude that forces software developers to spend
time and money working on licensing code that everyone hates instead
of adding features and fixing bugs.
In fact, you are working against yourself here; you wanted MORE bugs
fixed for 3.2, yet you also wanted them to redo the licensing code.
Also, you didn't want Frame to charge a lot for the upgrade.
Frame decided to concentrate on fixing bugs and adding some
features instead of changing the licensing code, and you
single-handedly have now made this a bad decision. I'm sure everyone
appreciates that.
: The 3.2 version of the app has very little that wasn't in the
: previous version and actually introduces a couple new display errors
: (since I'm in a bit of a hurry, I'll just mention one: check out Times
: 12 Italic in a FrameMaker v3.2 window at 100% magnification versus
: Times 12 Italic in an Edit.app RTF window--the Frame 3.2 window
: renders the same font smaller than Edit.RTF [and all other NS apps
: that allow you to draw Times 12 Italic]).
I just checked out both, and I can't tell any difference. I've got an
RTF file with screen-grabs of both I'd be happy to e-mail to anyone
who doesn't concur.
: I think it's shameful that Lighthouse or Frame would want hundreds for
: what Frame has told me was only intended to be a re-compile under NS
: 3.2 to make Frame MAB. MAB compiled apps take so little effort on the
: part of the developer, I feel they are not worth more money, and I'm
: against changing the version number in such a major way (it seems more
: like a bugfix upgrade version number increase to me) certainly not the
: fee that Lighthouse & Frame charges. I do recognize that no matter
: what a ripoff I think the app upgrade is, it still legally requires
: one to pay the upgrade fee in order to legally use the app.
Lighthouse is charging what Frame dictated. Frame charged what they
felt they needed to charge to support such a small platform.
You don't know what you're talking about with the effort involved,
unless you did the MAB port, which you didn't and I did.
Initially Frame just wanted to release an Intel-only version. We did
that quickly enough that we started fixing bugs in the 3.0.1 version.
I'm sorry your favorite bugs didn't get fixed, but a lot of users'
did.
We also added the immediate-scroll feature on our own. We threw in
Motorola and HP support without charging Frame for the extra time.
: Fortunately, there is an anonymous FTP'able demo from
: ftp.lighthouse.com so you can check all this out for yourself. If
: anyone would like to see my list of bugs, email me and I'll forward a
: copy of them to you. All except the bugs at the very bottom of the
: file have been sent to Frame tech support and acknowledged as bugs.
: Most of these same bugs exist in Frame circa v3.0.
E-mail them to me. Can't promise anything, but I'll look at them.
: I should note that contrary to what a follow-up poster said, I don't
: have the kind of pull at Frame to be able to start, stop or guide
: production of FrameMaker for NS. I can only recall that for over two
: years, Frame continued production of FrameMaker for other platforms
: and left NS behind. Since there has been no mention of Frame 5 for
: NS, I can only take it as a rumor that it *might* come out. However I
: know better than to bank on rumors and so I have to believe that Frame
: for NS will soon become two major versions behind the rest of the
: Frame world.
Surely, even without inside information, you can understand that the success
of 3.2 will influence any possible future products from Frame.
: My reason for bringing out the now long-standing 'bug' in Frame v3.2
: with the license key is to illustrate their apparent sloppiness in
: testing. If learning about the license-key 'bug' (if it was really
: not intended to work as it does) is news to the FrameMaker
: powers-that-be, they are paying bugtesters that aren't doing as good a
: job as they ought, in my opinion. Certainly not as good a job as I
: have been doing for them for free.
It was not sloppiness in testing. It was a decision to spend our time
fixing bugs and adding a couple of features rather than messing with
the licensing code. Frame 3.2 is not a major revision, and if the
".2" fooled you, I'm sorry. It is a tri-fat release with a number of
bugs fixed and a couple of new features. If you need the features and
bug fixes, pay for them. If not, wait for some other product.
-Wil Shipley
DISCLAIMER: I don't speak for Frame, Lighthouse, NeXT, Sun, Moon, or Stars.
From: kc@ocelot (Ken Case)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Doom2 A & keyboard control, HOW?
Date: 22 Apr 1995 05:58:08 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3na5tg$990@gaea.titan.org>
References: <3n9d6k$q2m@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: I just got the new Doom2 and it looks nice, but I only can move
: around with the mouse, and cant fire or anything...
:
: Is there a way to enable the keyboard?
:
: I tried through the keyboard panel, but it didn't want to take any
: input.
See http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/Doom/ (just updated).
Basically, the keyboard panel is broken in the current release, but
you can get the keys working by performing dwrites directly (which are
listed on the web page).
By the way, you might want to subscribe to the nextdoom mailing list,
or look through its archives
(http://www.omnigroup.com/MailArchive/nextdoom/), where problems such
as this one get discussed (and where we'll announce the next release
when it's available).
--
Ken Case
Omni Development, Inc.
kc@omnigroup.com
From: smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Satan works on Motorola
Date: 2 May 1995 14:54:56 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <3o5h40$hj7@nntp.crl.com>
I've just followed the receipe for building Satan in NeXTAnswers
(http://www.next.com keyword search "satan" or see below).
It compiles and builds with a couple of errors but runs fine. What's
the ethics of posting the executables on the archives?
--
Samuel M. Goldberger
smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
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From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP and SLIP
Date: 3 May 1995 03:33:50 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <3o6tiu$otv@paladin.american.edu>
I have two questions about the above subject. I have the following software
from the ftp sites:
Gatekeeper 0.7
SLIPCommander 3.21
PPP 2.2-0.1.9
The first question is given the above software does anyone recommend using
either or all of them. I am able to run SLIP or PPP lets presume.
The second question concerns a server for the above software. I am under the
impression that all I need for a server is a modem and that the above software
is only needed on the client. I am running NXFax on the server so the line in
getty is not needed. (According to the documentation.)
Any help would be great.
--
Torrey McMahon
From: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RGB Colors on X vs NeXT
Date: 3 May 1995 03:26:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <3o6t63$mit@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Hello!
Has anybody noticed that a color specified by rgb numbers display as
different colors on X windows compared to NeXTSTEP? Any speculations on why
this happens? Kind of annoying..
I noticed this by running co-Xist and running xcolors from a remote machine
displaying on my NeXT (NS/I 3.2). Then I used the Color Panel from Edit.app
to grab the colors from the xcolors window. If you set the color sliders to
rgb mode, the rgb numbers of the color in the color well are displayed. Next,
use the magnifying glass from the color panel to pick a color off the xcolors
window. Then I compared the rgb numbers I got in the color panel with the rgb
numbers from the rgb.txt file on the remote X system. Surprise! The numbers
don't match.
Actually, I first noticed this effect when I ported a CAD tool from X
windows to NeXTSTEP. The CAD tool uses rgb numbers to display colored
polygons on the screen. I noticed that polygons displayed by the NeXTSTEP
version seemed to be "washed out" compared to the X version of the tool. That
prompted me to try out the xcolors thing.
Any ideas? I wonder which color is the "true" color if such a thing exists?
--
Alvin Jee
alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
Using the Internet since 1984
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Date: 2 May 1995 17:04:40 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o5on8$fni@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3o5cqi$82f@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Robert F Tobler writes
>
> Does WriteUp 1.2 still have only flat styles? Or have they included
> hierarchical styles (aka OpenWrite / MS Word)?
WriteUp 1.2 imports and preserves hierarchical style information from word
processors that support this feature with a "based on" attribute. Unlike
1.1, it also supports "partial" style definitions (where not all paragraph
attributes are defined in a style), and it allows you to override defined
style attributes at the individual paragraph level. But if you change a
style near the top of the hierarchy, it does NOT reflect the change
downward through all styles and paragraphs that inherit from that master
style. Downward reflection is only one level deep.
This restriction will be relaxed in the next release. But in the meantime,
if your documents use hierarchical styles, they will import, display, and
save without lossage. You just can't make intra-hierarchy changes more
than one level deep.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: karen@manta.ucsf.edu (Karen Vranizan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP server
Date: 2 May 1995 20:43:26 GMT
Organization: UCSF, ITS
Message-ID: <3o65he$ku6@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>
Keywords: PPP
Hello there. There is still a problem with our PPP server setup. We can
make successful connections between remote and server machines. From the
remote we can ping the server, the local network, machines within our
domain (ucsf.edu), but NOT anything outside of the domain. Anyone got any
clues for us?
Still playing in my own backyard, Karen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: emmerik@knoware.nl (Pieter van Emmerik)
Subject: PC-speaker driver available for NEXT?
Sender: news@knoware.nl (News Account)
Message-ID: <emmerik.2.0011D3B5@knoware.nl>
Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 18:40:29 GMT
Organization: Holec Projects
Keywords: sound
Is there a sound driver for the PC-speaker that allows me to control the
Volume under NEXT v3.2.
There is a pretty good PC-speaker driver for MS-Windows. A dirver that would
give me the quality of that one under NEXT would be good enough for my
application.
Anyone out there?
Pleace E-mail: emmerik@knoware.nl
P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects
Email: emmerik@knoware.nl POBox 565
Voice: +31-74-558688 7550 AN Hengelo
Home: +31-74-437084 The Netherlands
From: ruml@bowmore.harvard.edu (Wheeler Ruml)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Wanted: Progress DBKit Adaptor
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 03 May 1995 13:32:26 GMT
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RUML.95May3093226@bowmore.harvard.edu>
Has anyone come out with a DBKit Adaptor for the Progress database
system yet? I recall hearing rumors a few years ago that some groups
were developing one, but now I need to know about working products.
Please reply by e-mail, as I can't keep up with the newsgroups.
Thanks,
Wheeler
--
Wheeler Ruml, Aiken 220, ruml@das.harvard.edu, (617) 496-1066 (fax)
http://www.das.harvard.edu/users/students/Wheeler_Ruml/Wheeler_Ruml.html
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next World, Magazine?
Date: 3 May 1995 18:07:27 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o8gov$l6u@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <3npnkl$aj4@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
BLECHMAN (blechman@aol.com) wrote:
/ Is there anybody out there who can tell me if there are Magizines or
/ newsletters called Next World, Next Step, and Open Step Solutions? If so,
/ do you know who they are published by.
OpenStep Solutions is from SIGS.
It`s is only available together with
* Object Magazine
For managers seeking to increase software productivity with object
technology...
or
* Journal of Object-Oriented Programming
Subscribers are receiving the most accurate, leading-edge, technical
information available on object-orientation.
Have a look at http://www.sigs.com/
There is also NeXT IN LINE (NIL). Try ftp.nil.com for ftp or info@nil.com
for email. Hope that gets you pointed in the right direction...
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu
GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
From: buchanan@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov (James Robert Buchanan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,news.software.nntp
Subject: Where can I get latest slurp?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 03 May 1995 12:57:02 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <BUCHANAN.95May3085702@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov>
Hello,
Where can I ftp the latest source code for slurp (the
nntp-based program which rapidly transfers a bunch news articles in a
big batch)? I want to replace nntpxfer with something faster (like
slurp) since my news feed requires a long distance phone call. I
tried searching archie for "slurp" but all it came up with was
something called "slurp-term" which seems to be a Linux application.
Please email your responses to me.
Thanks in advance,
From: jjhuang@atm.cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there perl-4.036 for NS3.3/SPARC?
Date: 3 May 1995 16:01:23 GMT
Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Message-ID: <3o89cj$s7r@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <3o27ss$37u@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <D7wLpt.FJv@cunews.carleton.ca>
Jason Bright (jbright@stimpy) ´Ł¨ě:
: Have you checked the system itself? My 3.3/MOTO came with Perl included.
: (Much to my surprise....more stealth marketing by NeXT).
: later
: j
I checked the system,and I can't find perl.
There isn't perl-4.036 pkg for NS/SPARC or NS/PA-RISC now, could the author
of perl-4.036.pkg for Intel and Motorola try to port perl-4.036 to SPARC
and PA-RISC? Thanks.
--
Albert Jiunn-jye Huang(śŔŤTłÇ) <u8213006@cc.nctu.edu.tw> (MIME is ok)
<albert@ccnext1.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Dept. of Communication Eng. (NeXTMail is welcome,but not stable site)
National Chiao-Tung University
Member of NCTU NeXT User Group
From: nickel@widget.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Nickel)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Frame v3.2 for NEXTSTEP -- no upgrade fee necessary
Date: 2 May 1995 22:01:27 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3o6a3n$f8v@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <3n1vs8$aag@sparkle.soltec.com> <3n8pu3$jis@sparkle.soltec.com> <3n9gbt$8np@gaea.titan.org>
wjs@foom (William Shipley) comments on an earlier submission by
J.B. Nicholson-Owens
I concur with most of what you said, just wanted to comment on one point
Starting in mid-conversation ...
>: J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes ...
>: I should note that contrary to what a follow-up poster said, I don't
>: have the kind of pull at Frame to be able to start, stop or guide
>: production of FrameMaker for NS. I can only recall that for over two
>: years, Frame continued production of FrameMaker for other platforms
>: and left NS behind. Since there has been no mention of Frame 5 for
>: NS, I can only take it as a rumor that it *might* come out. However I
>: know better than to bank on rumors and so I have to believe that Frame
>: for NS will soon become two major versions behind the rest of the
>: Frame world.
> William Shipley responds ...
>Surely, even without inside information, you can understand that the success
>of 3.2 will influence any possible future products from Frame.
My comment is simply this. I own Frame 3.0.1/Moto and have kind of a love-hate
relationship with it. The features of Frame are great, the bugs very
frustrating. For that reason, I looked forward (and continue to do so) to
future bug-fix and performance enhancement releases. Like anyone, though,
I make the decision to purchase an upgrade based on how much it costs and what
I receive. The description I read on Frame's web page does not make this
upgrade attractive unless the price is very low. Perhaps this reflects a
lack of substance, perhaps it only reflects poor marketing. Unless my opinion
is a rare one, that means few of us will purchase 3.2. I don't feel my cohort
and I deserve the blame for the demise of NS/Frame. If Frame Technology
believes they can make money on this platform, I urge them to fix bugs, to
issue more frequent and cheaper releases and to document very well what these
releases do, both in terms of bugs they fix and new features they provide.
If they can't make enough money, I wish they would license it to a small firm
who could profit from responding to the needs of a small community. My money
is here. I am willing to spend it on upgrades that respond to the problems
that affect my work and that supply enhancements that make me more effective.
I am willing to (in fact, have in the past) describe bugs and desired
enhancements. I will even tell Frame or its licensee what I will pay to
obtain various changes. In exchange, all I ask for is a company that listens
and responds to customers, and who markets their product well (sell us the car,
not the girl!).
What do y'all think?
Dave Nickel
From: tm8025a@newssrv.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP frontend?
Date: 4 May 1995 00:08:21 GMT
Organization: The American University, Washington DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o95tl$bbv@paladin.american.edu>
References: <3o917m$dus@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
In article <3o917m$dus@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip
McDunnough) writes:
:I'd like to be able to click on an icon in order to start PPP, as opposed
:to typing "pppup" and I'd like to click on another one in order to avoid
:having to su root and then type "pppdown". Can this be done? Or has it
:been done?
:
Try GateKeeper.app It is only in version 0.7 but it, I have been told, works
quite well. Testing it myself soon I hope! You would have to chmod it to
set-uid root in order to get it to act like root. (I believe.)
It is at ftp.cs.orst.edu
--
Torrey McMahon
From: suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu (Satoru Uzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VirtSpace
Date: 2 May 1995 17:11:36 GMT
Organization: Emory University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o5p48$kr3@moe.cc.emory.edu>
References: <3o26av$8f5@marble.Britain.EU.net>
david@onestep.co.uk wrote:
: Hi,
: Anybody know what happended to VirtSpace. I know that Pinnacle
: Research's WetPaint is now owned/distributed by lighthouse. Did the
: company pull out of NS. Is there a public domain copy of VirtSpace ?
: Any help would be appreciated.
: --
: Regards David Knight
: OneStep Solutions plc | UK phone: 01702 551010 | Vendors of NS
: 351-359 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | Hardware, Apps
: Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | MCCAs, Networks
: Essex | | ISDN, Training
Hi David,
I recently purchased VirtSpace from NYRO Technix directly and very
happy with it. Here is the price and contact information.
VirtSpace 3.03 Pricing
$89.95* New Customer
$30.00* New Educational Customer
$39.95* Pinnacle Registered Customer
$15.95* Pinnacle Registered Educational Customer
$8.95^ NYRO Registered Customer (3.01) - Regular & Educational
Call NYRO Registered Site License Customer
* plus tax, shipping and handling
^ plus tax if any, shipping included
NYRO Technix, Inc.
236 W. Portal Ave Suite 341
San Francisco CA 94127
415 664-1170 voice
415 664-5530 fax
info@nyro.com
VirtSpace is really a neat software and I love it. Enjoy!
Satoru Uzawa, suzawa@unix.cc.emory.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
NYRO Technix, Inc. markets VirtSpace(tm),
ReadReceiptPlus(tm), Faxcess(tm),
UUCP-EZ(tm), On-Vacation(tm) and
other NEXTSTEP software.
From: reitmr@bnr.ca (Rick Reitmaier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for drum synthisizing software for NS/i with musickit
Date: 2 May 1995 22:52:21 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o6d35$8kg@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>
References: <3nojp3$moh@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
john stanhope (jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu) wrote:
: I just bought a Turtle Beach card to try out the MusicKit and it
: works pretty darn good. Now I am looking for some easy to understand/use
: software for making drum sounds and arranging them. Ensemble is little
: hard to use for a beginner. I read about a program called Ringo that could
: be used for what I want but I can't find it on orst, sonata or ccrma-ftp, can
: someone tell me if its still available? It needs to be source or an MAB
: binary. I am also open to any other music programs that will make cool
: drum tracks.
: Thanks
: John Stanhope
This is a little off topic but...
I was curious which Turtle Beach card you bought and whether you've had
any problems playing the demo scores. Do you know if the Tahiti card
works with MusicKit, since TB doesn't care to mention that this
card also has a DSP.
I've heard that the TB cards aren't supported "that well"
by the MusicKit, have you found this to be true?
I appreciate your time; Thanks,
Rick Reitmaier
reitmr@bnr.ca
From: root@nugget.rmNUG.ORG (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to backup on Black Hardware?
Date: 3 May 1995 15:02:36 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Message-ID: <3o85uc$pgd@nova.voicenet.com>
I have a Dimension cube, with a Cipher 250MB 1/4" Backup on it.
It is coming up as rst0......
Wjhat can I use to backup my entire hard drive to this unit?
It will be 4 tapes, becasue my drive is 1.0G....
Darren
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP server
Date: 3 May 1995 23:39:50 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3o9ia6$75p@panix3.panix.com>
References: <3o65he$ku6@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>
My problem sounds similar.
I can ping my local provider, everyhitng seems fine. I am actually
establishing a connection through using kermit, as the PPP-2.2
README suggests to test. Then I attempt to get other services
to work, but am having difficulty.
I'm sure this is more PPP ignorance than anything else.
I have setup my /etc/resolve.conf.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
--later, RS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: WriteUp vs OpenWrite
Message-ID: <D7zIus.K6s@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <3nigrh$s0f@alcor.usc.edu> <3nmhi6$nq9@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <3noss5$fkl@pith.uoregon.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 04:23:16 GMT
Sean Elliott Russell (ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu) wrote:
: Although I'm relatively new to the NS OS, and consequently NS apps, as
: well, so I can't say much about style guide violations. The interface is
: rather odd; I prefere button bars to multiple inspectors or deep menu
: trees, and the supporting apps data transferes are unwieldy; however, this
: is a very flexible program, and the supporting apps are outstanding. I've
: only seen in act strangely on rare occasion, and have yet to loose data;
: IE, it's stable. I can't compare it to WU, since I've never used it, but
: in my opinion, OW is not far behind FrameMaker.
My wp needs are simple. I found OW's UI to be cramped; so I opted for
WU's modest, yet quite functional UI. A decided plus is the excellent
support I have consistently received.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.gnuplot
Subject: Any NeXTstep users of gnuplot ?
Date: 3 May 1995 13:39:04 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3o811o$rv9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi.
This is addressed to people using gnuplot (the command-line
oriented GNUish plotting program), not GnuPlot, the GUI
NeXTstep port of gnuplot. I imagine there aren't
that many NeXTstep gnuplot users remaining out there.
I have written an output filter for gnuplot
on the NeXTstep console. Unlike the version distributed
in the gnuplot distribution, this filter provides
multiple output windows and direct printing of
windows through the standard Print panel.
I'm posting to find out if there's enough interest
to warrant my cleaning up the source code and making
it publically available.
Drop me a note if you'd be interested in my making the filter
available.
Robert
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: vj@cais3.cais.com (Vijay B. Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CAD software 4 NeXTStep??
Date: 3 May 1995 21:35:54 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470
Message-ID: <3o8svq$rik@news.cais.com>
Is there any CAD software that runs nativly under NeXTStep?? -Vijay
From: nikos@cs.cornell.edu (Nikos P. Pitsianis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sound and Video Processing on the Cube?
Date: 4 May 1995 00:52:18 -0400
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Cornell U.
Message-ID: <3o9mi2$f6q@alfheim.cs.cornell.edu>
Hi all,
I would like to get in touch with people that use their cubes
for professional video (PAL/SECAM) and audio (or audio only) processing.
What hardware and software are you using and how satisfied are you
with it? Is it viable or everybody is about to migrate?
Thanks,
Nikos
--
Nikos P Pitsianis Internet : nikos@cs.cornell.edu
Cornell University Phone : (607) 255 3042
5151 Upson Hall, Dept of Comp Sc FAX : (607) 255 4428
Ithaca, NY 14853 Home : (607) 277 7630
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP frontend?
Date: 3 May 1995 22:48:22 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o917m$dus@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Keywords: lazy
I'd like to be able to click on an icon in order to start PPP, as opposed
to typing "pppup" and I'd like to click on another one in order to avoid
having to su root and then type "pppdown". Can this be done? Or has it
been done?
--
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail please)
[Where sheep may safely graze ...]
From: rex@starr.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: man tip?
Date: 4 May 1995 19:46:38 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <3obauu$e7n@news.cerf.net>
Keywords: tip
I need to connect via dialup to the LongBeachVA. Their instructions
specify 7,no,1. The man pages on the NeXT don't seem to address setting
parity and stop bits. Could some kind soul provide a pointer to the
solution using Terminal.app?
-Rex Riley
rexr@cerf.net
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Create vs SuperDraw
Date: 3 May 1995 23:27:03 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3o93g7$r13@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Anybody cares to comment on Stone's Create and Impact's SuperDraw?
I spent half a day playing with SuperDraw and I was quite impressed.
Anybody with longer experience with the product? On the other hand,
Create is also very powerful. What do you think?
Thanks.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
http://libra.arch.umich.edu/Students/Wassim.Jabi/Portfolio/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mmoreton@madge1.madge.co.uk (Mike Moreton)
Subject: Re: Help with SoftPC
Organization: Madge Networks
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:18:22 GMT
Message-ID: <D8252o.7pz@madge1.madge.co.uk>
References: <1995May2.201151.1861@leo.vsla.edu>
Lucette A. Williams (lawillia@leo.vsla.edu) wrote:
: Hi! I just installed SoftPC on one of my Intel-based
: NeXTSTEP machines. (Next 3.3) I installed it from the root
: account, created it to be a rather LARGE "hard-drive", and
: then tried to access it from a user's account. WRONG. It
: would only give me read-only privledge.
Log in as root
chown <username> <hard disk file name>
Of course there is a commonly held view that someone who doesn't
know how to change the ownership of a file shouldn't be let loose
with a root password.
Mike.
--
Throw some bread to the ducks instead, it's easier that way.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Is there perl-4.036 for NS3.3/SPARC?
Message-ID: <D82ntz.46F@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3o27ss$37u@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <D7wLpt.FJv@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 21:03:35 GMT
Jason Bright (jbright@stimpy) wrote:
: Have you checked the system itself? My 3.3/MOTO came with Perl included.
: (Much to my surprise....more stealth marketing by NeXT).
NeXTSTEP does not come with perl. I have made that suggestion before, but
it was never implemented.
If perl was on your system, someone else installed it.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Can't use Format w/ PS document
Message-ID: <D82o42.4yn@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3o50p6$pv8@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 21:09:38 GMT
Pat Martin (pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know why Format doesn't work while
: viewing a postscript document under Preview?
Because .ps documents already have their formating hard-coded into the
document. Format->Page Layout will work if you open a .tiff or .eps document.
: Is there another more versatile postscript viewer out there?
Tailor is an extremely powerful PostScript visual editor; the only one of
its kind in the world. Email peter@firstclass.be for info.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Display Preference doesn't working on my Intel 3.3???
Message-ID: <D82oDK.5xw@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3oafg6$7n6@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 21:15:20 GMT
Ruei-wun Tu (rueiwun@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu) wrote:
: I found that the 3.3 Display Preference doesn't working anymore.
: Both screen dimmer and brightness are not working now. The only thing
: working is that I still can choose background color. Anyone has ideal
: what's going on. Any suggestions welcome...
: P.S. I already try to put Preference.app back from 3.3 CDROM. Doesn't
: work anyway... I have ATI Ultra graphic pro 2MB vram with Nonao f550iw
The ATI Graphics Ultra Pro has never, as I recall, supported dimming in
16-bit colour modes. It does work for 8-bit grey and 2-bit grey modes,
but not 16-bit colour.
If you use BackSpace.app, you can still have a screen-saver, which will
be invoked at screen dimming time.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh ------------------:-o-----------------
From: ltinguely@ping.ch (Lionel Tinguely)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DataBase product info ??
Date: Thu, 04 May 1995 20:34:43 GMT
Organization: Ping Net Sarl, Lausanne
Message-ID: <3obl69$m79@server.ping.ch>
Hello !
Do you know a Database for NeXTSTEP comparable to ACCESS for Window
THANKS
******************************************
Lionel Tinguely
E-mail: ltinguely@ping.ch
From: cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Peanuts FTP Archive]: CD-ROMs of Peanuts available
Date: 5 May 1995 08:08:54 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3ocmem$rd@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Peanuts Archive Discs
=====================
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-Archive ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/
pub/comp/platforms/next available on compact disc!
Background
----------
Peanuts is the world's leading ftp-archive for NEXTSTEP and OpenStep
software on NeXT, Intel, HP/PA and SUN Sparc hardware. The archive is
maintained since 1991 at the university of munich by a group of
enthusiastic NEXTSTEP users. The archive has many mirror sites and
BBS' in Europe and in the USA. The archive is updated every day from
ftp sites all over the world.
The compact discs
-----------------
Because of many requests also from people without Internet access, we
decided 1994 to publish a CD-ROM containing the Peanuts archive. Since
the archive steadily grows, we now (spring 1995) have published the
first volume of the Peanuts Archive Discs (PAD) on two compact discs.
The complete archive contains more than 1.3 GByte of compressed
software. Most of the applications are free- or shareware. For
demonstration purposes, a wide range of popular commercial
applications is included; this section is more than just a compilation
of already available third-party compact discs.
The archive contains NEXTSTEP-applications, unix programs, X11
programs, tools for developers, collections of easily reusable classes
and code, documents, hard- and software-reviews, tutorials for
programming and system administration, the NeXTAnswers directly from
NeXT, a collection of important mailing-lists, newsletters from NeXT
usergroups and an archive of national and international newsgroups
from 1989 up to now. This and a rich collection of graphics, sound and
audio files, drivers, classes, filters, preference modules, palette,
fonts and much more, makes this CD a comprehensive tool for every user
and developer of NeXT's advanced, object-oriented operation system.
The archive is sorted in different categories and each filename
follows a special naming convention making it possible to check the
version number and distribution form (binary and/or source) of a
program; further it is possible to see from the filename on which
hardware platform any binary distributed application can be run. Also
supplied is a short description file for almost every program enabling
the user to find rapidly what he is searching for. With a simple
double click any compressed file can be unpacked.
Useful documents including usenet news, FAQs, the NeXTAnswers and the
description files are fully indexed and can be used right off the CD
together with NEXTSTEP's Digital Librarian for a fast and efficient
information retrieval. The description files can also be copied to
hard disc for an efficient search without the compact discs.
We want to publish the Peanuts Archive Discs a few time a year to
supply the NEXTSTEP community with a complete and up-to-date
collection of stuff available for NEXTSTEP and OpenStep at the lowest
possible price. The profit by the CD-ROMs will be mainly used for the
archive itself to offer a better service in the future.
Volume 1 is from the 9th April 1995. You can download the INDEX file
of the CD-ROMs from ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/
next/00INFO/Peanuts_CD-ROMs.contents.gz or you use our W3 server
http://www.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/peanuts/pad.
Cost
----
The Peanuts Archive Discs is US $59 (DM 69.-) retail plus shipping and
handling. A special price are available for usergroups and for
collective orders.
The costs for sending the discs COD (cash on delivery) are about DM
8.- in germany and $20 for the rest of europe. Outside europe you can
send us cash (costs for shipping are $12), you can transfer to our
account (costs are $12, make sure we get $59 after all charges
deducted!) or you pay by credit card (europe: $6, outside: $12).
Together with the first volume of the CD-ROMs a registration card is
supplied for a $15 (DM20.-) discount of the next issue of the Peanuts
Archive Discs.
How to order
------------
For your orders or for any questions concerning the CD-ROMs please
contact:
Peanuts Archive Discs
c/o Christian Baur
Aurbacherstrasse 11/VIII
D-81541 Muenchen-Haidhausen
Fax: (++49) 89 - 483563
pad@informatik.uni-muenchen.de
If you want to pay with credit card please send us the usual
informations (card number, holder and expiration date).
For further information
-----------------------
For any questions concerning the archive itself you can contact us at
peanuts-admin@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Peanuts Admins).
-------------------------------------------------------------------
The peanuts FTP archive can be reached on ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-
muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next, on many mirror sites in Europe
and the USA and on some BBSs in Germany.
Regards
cb
--
[ Christian Baur,Muenchen-Germany | You can't sink a RAINBOW, ]
[ cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de(NeXTmail) | but you can sink the EARTH. ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell "RudeBoy" Silverman)
Subject: Re: PPP/SLIP Software for NEXTStep
Message-ID: <D7ysJz.Fp@sgc.com>
Sender: news@sgc.com
Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC
References: <D7nx6y.DA@mrk.com>
Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:55:11 GMT
In article DA@mrk.com, jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) writes:
> Hi All
>
> Was wondering if someone could tell me where I could find a good SLIP or PPP
> implementation for NEXTStep/fip.
>
> Thanx in advance
>
> jerald
> --
> jerald dawson * Owner / Consultant * Dawson Computer Services
> NeXTmail - jerald@mrk.com |
> phone - (708) 526-3727 | Windows 95? Should be WinEver!
I have just installed PPP-2.2.x.x, the latest version of the
free PPP project, and it is really cool. Works just fine.
--later, RS
--
__o | Russell Adam Silverman <rsilver@panix.com> | _ o
_-\_<, | work - <rsilver@sgc.com> | |<)_/#
(*)/'(*) | If you can't change the world, change the channel| TT <T
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette A. Williams)
Subject: Help with SoftPC
Message-ID: <1995May2.201151.1861@leo.vsla.edu>
Organization: Virginia State Library
Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:11:51 GMT
Hi! I just installed SoftPC on one of my Intel-based
NeXTSTEP machines. (Next 3.3) I installed it from the root
account, created it to be a rather LARGE "hard-drive", and
then tried to access it from a user's account. WRONG. It
would only give me read-only privledge.
Here's the problem. I want that user (who will be the ONLY
user of the machine) to have FULL access to that "hard drive"
to do his work. So how do I give him privileges to do this
WITHOUT creating another 200MB "hard drive" on the machine?
I tried contacting tech support...but that was a long wait in
futility...the tech and I were talking about two different
things, and I couldn't get her to understand what I really
wanted to do. (Someone out here will, though...) :)
Thanks bunches in advance. The sooner I can get the machine on
the user's desk, the happier he will be! :)
Lucette
lawillia@leo.vsla.edu
Richmond,VA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: DarkForest for HPPA anyone?
Message-ID: <D838pD.4Lu@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3obeqg$2o36@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 04:34:25 GMT
kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu wrote:
: i've got intel/m68k fat DarkForest. would like to know if
: it exists for hppa as well.
It's one of the programs included in the NeXTSTEP 3.3 "Demonstrations"
package, but not previous versions of the OS.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gery@ares.fdn.fr(Gery_Divry)
Subject: Re: CAD software 4 NeXTStep??
Message-ID: <1995May4.100025.460@ares.fdn.fr>
Sender: news@ares.fdn.fr
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
References: <3o8svq$rik@news.cais.com>
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 10:00:25 GMT
In article <3o8svq$rik@news.cais.com> vj@cais3.cais.com (Vijay B. Gupta)
writes:
> Is there any CAD software that runs nativly under NeXTStep?? -Vijay
2D
Academy (german)
Jessycad (french)
3D Architecture
ZZVolume (french)
maybe other new software I dont' know !!!
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume developper )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
From: vmaxon@micros.sas.upenn.edu (Vicky Maxon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WordPerfect 1.0.1 crash
Date: Thu, 04 May 1995 11:38:49 -0400
Organization: School of Arts and Sciences Microsupport, UPENN
Message-ID: <vmaxon-0405951138490001@towanda.sas.upenn.edu>
On the off-chance there are people out there still using WordPerfect 1.0.1
for NeXTStep, here's an interesting situation I can't figure out -- any
ideas would be appreciated:
I have a customer who's had the same problem on a number of Friday
afternoons: in the middle of a 10-15 page WP document, she gets dropped
into the NMI Mini-monitor with a "system panic" message. The only text she
remembers from the stuff scrolling by is "wplexsup.us". I told her how to
do a clean halt, checked that she wasn't doing <command><command><tilde>,
and confirmed that it happens in WordPerfect. Could this be a memory
problem? Any enlightenment to my ignorance (or even suggestions for what
to look for) would be appreciated.
_________________________________________________________________
Vicky Maxon Electronic Communications Support 573-HELP
SAS Computing, University of Pennsylvania
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~vmaxon
From: Will Price <wprice@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using Mail with PPP
Date: 3 May 1995 17:42:08 GMT
Organization: MACH Networks
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o8f9g$id2@news4.primenet.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I've successfully installed the PPP package, but there is no information
on
how it works with mail. I am using a stand alone NeXT with generic 3.3
installation on Intel hardware. POPOver works to get mail, but if I send
mail the sendmail program just sits there forever trying to send mail. I
have to manually kill the sendmail process in order for Mail.app to quit.
Is there some kind of configuration I have to do for mail? The manual
didn't
say anything about that.
I tried contacting the author (perkins@cps.msu.edu), but mail just
bounces back.
Thanks!
-Will
_______________________________________________________
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| ________ | http://www.primenet.com/~wprice |
| \ / | PGP key available by finger. |
| \ / | Encrypted e-mail encouraged. |
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From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DarkForest for HPPA anyone?
Date: 4 May 1995 20:52:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3obeqg$2o36@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: darkforest hppa hp
hello.
i've got intel/m68k fat DarkForest. would like to know if
it exists for hppa as well.
anyone?
thanks
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: PPP client/server setup using same subnet number?
Date: 3 May 1995 16:32:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3o8b76$c0d@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: PPP, proxyarp, proxy ARP
I am using ppp2.2-0.1.9 from ftp://ftp.duq.edu/pub/next/ppp/
on Black NeXT NS3.2 and it's working great with Annex dialup
lines with fixed assigned IP address. (Kudos to people who
have ported the sotware!)
However, I am also trying setup an alternate line to campus with a
modem directly connected to port-A of a NeXT cube to act as a PPP
server on a subnet according to the following configuration in the
PPP FAQ-3 of 8. Basically, my client NeXT at home tries to use
an IP number on the same subnet as the PPP server on campus. But
it fails. This should be possible with proxy ARP according to
the FAQ below.
The debug log complains that Serial PPP line appears to be a
loop-back and the modem disconnects. Console shows warnings about
MTU being set to 298, and blurbs about this not being supported on
the NeXT, but a workaround is in place, etc. I never get this
message when connecting to Annex.
Could someone sends me the scripts that you use for both ends
(PPP client and server) with such a setup?
Thanks.
Here's the relevant section of PPP FAQ:
------
>Subject: comp.protocols.ppp part3 of 8 of frequently wanted information
>Archive-name: ppp-faq/part3
>
>3.1 connect a single host to a network without needing a new subnet.
>
> If you have only one single machine on the other side, the easiest way
> is to give it a IP address belonging to the local ethernet/IP subnet,
> and to tell the ppp gateway machine to advertise (proxy arp) its own
> ethernet address as the other machines'. Works like a charm here. Of
> course, for a large group or complicated network on the other side, you
> would get more management problems.
>
> On the gateway do:
>
>
>arp -s othermachinesipaddress myownethernetaddress permanent public
>ifconfig pppNUMBER myipaddress othermachinesipaddress [other params] up
>
> on remote machine:
>
>
>ifconfig pppNUMBER gatewaysipaddress [other params] up
>route add default gatewaysipaddress 1
>
> pppNUMBER might be spelled as dpNUMBER for dialup IP.
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From: rueiwun@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ruei-wun Tu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Display Preference doesn't working on my Intel 3.3???
Date: 4 May 1995 11:57:58 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Unix Users Group
Message-ID: <3oafg6$7n6@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
Hello,
I found that the 3.3 Display Preference doesn't working anymore.
Both screen dimmer and brightness are not working now. The only thing
working is that I still can choose background color. Anyone has ideal
what's going on. Any suggestions welcome...
P.S. I already try to put Preference.app back from 3.3 CDROM. Doesn't
work anyway... I have ATI Ultra graphic pro 2MB vram with Nonao f550iw
Rueiwun Tu
rueiwun@gas.uug.arizona.edu
From: powell@tropic (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Mathematica Time Series pack
Date: 5 May 1995 18:38:36 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3odrbc$pr6@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
It turns out that the time series pack is available for NEXTSTEP after
all. I just didn't speak to the right person at first.
Its currently 50% off till the end of may and is Part# L86110 ($145)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <hby@fnbc.com>
Message-ID: <199505041445.JAA09616@jupiter.fnbc.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: "H. Bret Young" <hby@fnbc.com>
Date: Thu, 4 May 95 09:48:25 -0500
Subject: Mathematica on 3.3
I have Mathematica 2.2 on NS3.2 currently. I am ready to upgrade to
NS3.3 (both User and Dev) and was wondering if there are any problems
running Mathematica on 3.3.
Thanks,
Bret
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de>
Date: Thu, 4 May 95 19:15:42 +0100
Subject: FRAME / NEXT-OS FOR SPARC?
Does anybody, out there in the free world, know,
when Frame is coming with a new version, that runs
on NEXTSTEP for SPARC??
Frame 3.2, 4.0 or even 5.0 ???
Thanx,
Steve
stefan@a-gain.hanse.de
( NeXTmail favorized / MIME o.k.! )
From: dwright@dehli.voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer Questions
Date: 4 May 1995 17:37:40 GMT
Organization: DSC/Voicenet - BBS/Unix Shells/SLIP/NEWS - (215)443-7390
Message-ID: <3ob3d4$nr5@nova.voicenet.com>
Two questions about NewsGrazer:
1. Is there any way to widen the News Group List view? If I make the window
bigger, it widens only the article window...
2. What is my modem doing the whole time? I cam from TIN...where the modem
would go nuts the first minute, and then when you read the group or article...
but NG has been going crazy for like 10 minutes now.....nonstop! What is it
doing?
Darren
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Samba on a v. small network ??
Date: 5 May 1995 09:49:41 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3ocsbl$dt6@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I've got an old NeXT cube at home and want to network it up via Samba
to a couple of PC's. I've got the latest version of Samba to compile
OK but how do I stop the NeXT looking for NetInfo stuff, or can I get
Samba to run alongside NetInfo.
I want to be able to use the NeXT printer from the PC's and also some
of its disk space.
Any help appreciated.
Rupert.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,news.software.nntp
From: steveh@tqmcomms.co.uk (Stephen Hebditch)
Subject: Re: Where can I get latest slurp?
Message-ID: <1995May5.131738.24845@tqmcomms.co.uk>
Organization: TQM Communications, London, UK
References: <BUCHANAN.95May3085702@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov>
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:17:38 GMT
In article <BUCHANAN.95May3085702@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov>,
James Robert Buchanan <buchanan@ipx1.niehs.nih.gov> wrote:
> Where can I ftp the latest source code for slurp (the
>nntp-based program which rapidly transfers a bunch news articles in a
>big batch)?
ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/news/slurp/slurp-1.10.tar.Z
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Create vs SuperDraw
Date: 5 May 1995 19:20:30 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3oebru$24v@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3o93g7$r13@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
>Anybody cares to comment on Stone's Create and Impact's SuperDraw?
>I spent half a day playing with SuperDraw and I was quite impressed.
>Anybody with longer experience with the product? On the other hand,
>Create is also very powerful. What do you think?
I agree SuperDraw is Kick ass smooth! It is one of the nicer interfaces,
although it may currently lack a few of the bells and whistles, but thats
after a very priliminary looksee.
BTW, that new Balling.app game is really cool too, not to mention its name
is neeto ;)
Later, John
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Display Preference doesn't working on my Intel 3.3???
Date: 6 May 1995 01:18:17 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3oeiop$3c9@news.next.com>
References: <3oafg6$7n6@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
In article <3oafg6$7n6@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
rueiwun@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ruei-wun Tu) writes:
> Hello,
> I found that the 3.3 Display Preference doesn't working anymore.
> Both screen dimmer and brightness are not working now. The only thing
> working is that I still can choose background color. Anyone has ideal
> what's going on. Any suggestions welcome...
If your display is set to run at 16 bits per pixel (RGB:555/16), then in
almost all cases on Intel hardware, you will not have hardware support for
brightness control or screen dimming. These features are implemented in
the device drivers by manipulating the palette in the RAMDAC (the RAM
part...). Unfortunately, most DACs used in Intel hardware don't support a
programmable palette while in 555 or 565 mode.
Just another one of those fine Industry Standard Architecture features...
--
I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal...
This posting is Copyright 1995 M. Paquette (mpaque@next.com).
Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form,
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Microsoft Corp. for $0.18 per word. Distribution without permission
constitutes an agreement to these terms.
From: Robert Maxwell <maxwellort@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need Used Copy Of NS 3.2
Date: Thu, 4 May 95 15:48:30 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <Z+7daFO.maxwellort@delphi.com>
References: <robe0149.799130271@gold.tc.umn.edu>
<robe0149@gold.tc.umn.edu> writes:
>Joe Robertson
If You need an old copy of NS3.2 I Can Sell You one Cheap! ALso have a #.2
Develpoer I can Sell YA! mail me if you need it MAXWELLORT@delphi.com
From: jesse@mocha.ucsd.edu (Jesse D. Goldberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: looking for image converter
Date: 4 May 1995 19:53:40 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3obbc4$2gd@network.ucsd.edu>
Hi,
Does anyone out there know of an command line image converter that has
been compiled under NS called image. We used to have it and it worked
great but it was accidentally destroyed and we don't remember where we
found it.
Thanks in advance.
Email responses prefered.
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From: rruth@studio.disney.com (Richard Ruth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sybperl can't load DBlib
Date: 4 May 1995 19:47:50 GMT
Organization: Walt Disney Studios
Message-ID: <3obb16$osk@cabinboy.studio.disney.com>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.programmer ]
[ Author was Richard Ruth ]
[ Posted on 4 May 1995 19:46:00 GMT ]
I receive the following errors when I attempt to use Sybperl:
---
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/m68k-next/auto/Sybase/DBlib/DBlib.shlib'
for module Sybase::DBlib:
rld(): Undefined symbols:
_strlen ... <<many symbols>>
.
at /usr/local/lib/perl5/Sybase/DBlib.pm line 96
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at w.pl line 17.
---
w.pl line 17 is: use Sybase::DBlib;
DBlib.pm line 96 is: bootstrap Sybase::DBlib;
finally '/usr/local/lib/perl5/m68k-next/auto/Sybase/DBlib/DBlib.shlib' does
exist and is readable by everyone.
I am running perl5.000 (all tests were ok) under NEXTSTEP 3.2.
Sybperl-2a7 compiled without problem and the tests:
t/dblib.............ok
t/dbmoney...........ok
t/sybperl...........memory allocation error: attempt to free or realloc
space not in heap
This should not affect the problem because I was using Sybase::DBlib
not Sybase::Sybperl.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Please reply to rruth@studio.disney.com (and not whats on the from line)
Thanks.
--
Richard
rruth@studio.disney.com
(NeXT-Mail welcome)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: walshc@ecf.toronto.edu (Colin Walsh)
Subject: Controlling 'Request To Send' on the serial lines.
Message-ID: <D82JFu.5AE@ecf.toronto.edu>
Sender: news@ecf.toronto.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:28:42 GMT
I want to control Request to Send and Data Terminal Ready independently.
From the man pages on ioctl, and from ioctl.h, I have worked out how
to set and clear DTR. There are also magic numbers related to RTS
and it appears that both DTR and RTS should be controlled through
either the line discipline requests TIOCGETD/TIOCSETD
or the modem state requests TIOCMODG/TIOCMODS
or the line parameter requests TIOCGETP/TIOCSETP
However, nothing that I do with the set requests or by clearing
or setting DTR has any effect on the parameters returned by the
above three get requests.
Staggering blindly through the source code for kermit and tip
didn't get me anywhere either.
I am running NS2.1 on a 68040 NeXTstation, mono.
Can anyone help me out here?
Thanks.
Colin Walsh
No NeXTmail, walshc@ecf.toronto.edu
From: Robert Maxwell <maxwellort@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sell NS3.2User/dev
Date: Thu, 4 May 95 15:56:56 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <R88daHA.maxwellort@delphi.com>
I'm Selling A NS3.2 User/or dev version. The License has never been upgraded
so if you wanted to you could upgrade it is a full NS License not academic
version. Weil
sking $500 for both. $200 User $300 Dev
Will Take Best Offer
Need To SEll
MAXWELLORT@delphi.com
From: powell@tropic (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Mathematica Time Series Pack Request
Date: 4 May 1995 19:53:00 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3obbas$hmu@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
All NEXTSTEP users of Mathematica who would like to see their new Time
Series Pack become available for NEXTSTEP should contact Wolfram
Research and clamor for the port. Right now its available only for
Mac, WIndows/Dos and Unix.
Call 1-800-441-6284 or email info@wri.com
ps They are supposedly planning a Sparc Nextstep port but Sparc users
might want to clamor for their port also!
Mark Powell, NOAA Hurricane Research
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook)
Subject: Re: Satan works on Motorola
Message-ID: <D84s2F.5vC@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <3o5h40$hj7@nntp.crl.com>
Distribution: World
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:30:14 GMT
Sam_Goldberger writes
>I've just followed the receipe for building Satan in NeXTAnswers
>(http://www.next.com keyword search "satan" or see below).
>
>It compiles and builds with a couple of errors but runs fine. What's
the ethics of posting the executables on the archives?
I'd suggest the authors are the proper ones to address that question
to.
--
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bobcook@slac.stanford.edu
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okay
PGP public key:
ftp://ftp.slac.stanford.edu/users/bobcook/pgp.publickey
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From: niyer@ornews.intel.com (Narayanan Iyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CPIO on white?
Date: 4 May 1995 20:19:05 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Message-ID: <3obcrp$fpn@ornews.intel.com>
Hi:
Does cpio from a floppy work on Next White systems?
And if so, what is the correct syntax?
Thanks
niyer@mipos2.intel.com
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Questions
Date: 5 May 1995 08:39:06 +0100
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1995May5.063454.14415@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <3ob3d4$nr5@nova.voicenet.com>
In article <3ob3d4$nr5@nova.voicenet.com> dwright@dehli.voicenet.com
(Darren Wright) writes:
> 1. Is there any way to widen the News Group List view? If I make the
window
> bigger, it widens only the article window...
The group list and the article list are in a SplityView; the bar between
the two can be dragged.
> 2. What is my modem doing the whole time? I cam from TIN...where the
modem
> would go nuts the first minute, and then when you read the group or
article...
> but NG has been going crazy for like 10 minutes now.....nonstop! What
is it
> doing?
It is building the group list by fetching the entire active list from the
nntp host (or flat file). NewsGrazer really should use .newsrc if it
exists, with an option to check for new groups.
Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: David Downie
Subject: TeX Fonts/Printer Problems
Message-ID: <D82Mw5.A1A@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Summary: TeX
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:43:16 GMT
Hi,
I'm using a network printer (Apple LW) to as my main printer for
NS/SPARC. When it prints postscript it works fine but when I print
from TeXview.app, the resultion is really crappy on computer modern
fonts. Probably, I have to do something to the MakeTeX scripts or
something but I'm not positive. Any help would be appreciated...
Thanks
David Downie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: Need help sending .ps files to another system
Message-ID: <D80s87.JMG@athena.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 20:43:19 GMT
Hello,
I would appreciate help with the following situation: I have a
LaTeX document which includes (psfig) figures created in Improv,
tailor and others, which I am trying to send to a collegue working
on a SUN/SUN-OS machine. I generate a .ps file from TeXView, uuencode
it and send it to them. The document prints on their printer up to
the first page which contains graphics, then stops.
Can I solve this? can I send the graphics separately, if it helps?
Thks!
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Installation
Message-ID: <D85zDx.6vB@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <1995May5.190943.29555@leo.vsla.edu>
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 16:05:56 GMT
/LocalApps is the right place for OmniWeb.app and OmniImage.app.
OmniImageFilter is distributed as a .pkg, which you should double-click
on. Tell the Installer to put it in /LocalLibrary/Services
You should never install programs not supplied by NeXT in /NextApps or
/NextLibrary. /Library is the personal library of the "root" user, and
won't be seen by other users.
You should only need to log in and out for the new software to fully work;
rebooting is overkill. ;-)
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
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http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh ------------------:-o-----------------
Lucette A. Williams (lawillia@leo.vsla.edu) wrote:
: I have downloaded the current versions of OmniWeb(OW), Omni-
: Image(OI), and OmniImageFilter (OIF). I didn't see any "readme"
: files or instructions or such...so I gave it my best shot,
: along with a little help from various sources. I've put OW and
: OI in /NextApps, and OIF in /NextLibrary/Services. OmniWeb won't
: load images. So I then stuck the applications in /LocalApps,
: and OIF in /Library/Services. OmniWeb still won't load images.
: Oh yes, and I've rebooted after every switcheroo, just to be
: sure.
From: egass@ucs.indiana.edu (elaine marie gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIL-STD-217F Software request
Date: 5 May 1995 19:20:35 GMT
Organization: Indiana University
Message-ID: <3odtq3$i44@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
I am looking for software to do mean time between failure calculations
per mil-std-217f.
This is for an electronic equipment manufacturer; free, shareware or
commerical software is viable.
Please e-mail any information you may have to:
egass@indiana.edu
Thanks,
Elaine Gass
Computing Technology Assistance Center
Bloomington, IN
812-855-7531
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From: yzhao@netcom.com (Yi Zhao)
Subject: Problem with SafetyNet
Message-ID: <yzhaoD868LL.1qA@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 19:24:57 GMT
Sender: yzhao@netcom20.netcom.com
I am trying to use SafetyNet 2.3 for back up for several weeks without
success. It always goes this this
1). After clicking Back-Up, a window pops up, saying "Mounting Volumn..."
for 25-30 minutes. (why takes so long?)
2). Then it says that the tape does not have a valid SafetyNet label, and asks
if I want label it, I always say yes and erase the previous content
(even though it is a new tape), then takes 10-15 minutes to label the
volumn
3). Then it says "Please insert the volumn with label so-and-so", which is
the label I give to the volumn for the archieve. It has only 3 options
there, "OK", "Quit", and "Abort", none of them is doing anything good.
4). If in this cycle of 30 minutes of waiting, there is some luck, the
SafetyNet windows actually says it is backing up some files, then
always stops at the middle either having a scsi write error or media
error.
I tried the above procedures repeatedly using different HP DAT drives and
on both NeXT and Intel boxes.
And another thing is some people before me apparently had better luck than
me and managed to produce a SafetyNet backup. When I try to restore the files
after one hard drive went bad, I found that the archive and profile files
were on the bad disk, so I can not restore it anyway since SafetyNet uses
files you expect it to restore. Is there any way to force it restore the
files without these archive definition files?
BTW, can someone recommend a better and easier to use backup utility on
NeXT?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lawillia@leo.vsla.edu (Lucette A. Williams)
Subject: OmniWeb Installation
Message-ID: <1995May5.190943.29555@leo.vsla.edu>
Organization: Virginia State Library
Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:09:43 GMT
Ok, I'm going to run the risk of really looking foolish, but
I'm still rather new to NeXT, and I need some help!
I have downloaded the current versions of OmniWeb(OW), Omni-
Image(OI), and OmniImageFilter (OIF). I didn't see any "readme"
files or instructions or such...so I gave it my best shot,
along with a little help from various sources. I've put OW and
OI in /NextApps, and OIF in /NextLibrary/Services. OmniWeb won't
load images. So I then stuck the applications in /LocalApps,
and OIF in /Library/Services. OmniWeb still won't load images.
Oh yes, and I've rebooted after every switcheroo, just to be
sure.
As soon as I get it up and working, I'll be all set! :) (For
all of you who responded to my SoftPC question: Thank you!
CHMOD worked perfectly!) Then I can go back to lurking.
Thanks--
Lucette
lawillia@leo.vsla.edu
Richmond, VA
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica on 3.3
Date: 5 May 1995 13:36:39 -0500
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Message-ID: <3odr7n$od8@cobber.cord.edu>
References: <199505041445.JAA09616@jupiter.fnbc.com>
My Mathematica 2.2 runs (starts up) under NS 3.3 Intel but I haven't used
it rigorously.
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From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs_for_Nextstep (where is)
Date: 5 May 1995 23:01:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3oeap7$hbv@news.service.uci.edu>
OK, I'm entering the valley of darkness...
I'm looking for the most recent version of Emacs_for_Nextstep - the one
I got off peanuts seemed broken.
I'm also looking for OOBR - the Object oriented browser for Emacs.
To run that I'm looking for hyperbole v 3.18+. Pointers to all or some
of these would be appreciated.
Kurt
From: Nick Boris <nmboris@artsci.wustl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DNS under NS3.2/3.3
Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:10:16 -0500
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950504170751.385A-100000@mulberry>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I have seen in teh SYS Admin manual some talk of running a secondary DNS
under NS 3.3 (soon to be upgraded to 3.3).
I am wondering if it is possible to setup a primary DNS under NS.
This is all on White hardware.
Thank you greatly in advance,
Nick
{ postmaster@, webmaster@, ftp@ --- purelogic.com}
{ --- nite.net}
{ --- lineartech.com}
nick@nite.net --- @nite.net Music Resource, NYC
nmboris@purelogic.com --- Pure Logic Computers, NYC
nmboris@artsci.wustl.edu --- Washington University in St. Louis
http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~nmboris/ White Noise
As ever, the opinions expressed are not those of my employer, though
they should be.
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Subject: Re: 3.3 Multi-boot and dead mouse?
Message-ID: <1995May3.120425.44753@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
From: krampe@hoopy (Dirk Krampe)
Date: 3 May 95 12:04:24 MET
References: <gulunce-2804950959400001@sqzm17.ust.hk>
to get the serial mouse running, try to boot with the "config=Default"
option (you have to enter this at the boot prompt) and then move the
mouse quickly, when NEXTSTEP wants to autoconfigure a mousedriver.
Without this my NS sometimes did not recognise the serial mouse
Dirk
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From: joni@jughead.opensource.com (Joni Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SCSI DAT tape drive Backup prog needed
Date: 5 May 1995 22:39:47 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3oe9fj$c11@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <daemon9D7wyzF.HDL@netcom.com>
In article <daemon9D7wyzF.HDL@netcom.com> daemon9@netcom.com (Route)
writes:
>
> I have a Conner 2 gig internal SCSI-II DAT and need a backup
> program. Does anyone know where I can find such a utility for
> NSFIP 3.3?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
>
.........................................................................
...
> .oO Infinity Oo.
> (*Route)
> finger for more info, including pgp key
> url ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/da/daemon9 for the pursuit of
knowledge
>
.........................................................................
...
SafetyNet by Systemix is an excellent back-up application. It is
available in either a Personal version or Professional (network) version.
Please contact me if you require further information.
--
Joni Jo Ross
Account Executive
OpenSource, Inc.
1-800-TRY-OPEN
joni@opensource.com
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From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer Questions
Message-ID: <D85zo9.277@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
References: <3ob3d4$nr5@nova.voicenet.com>
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 16:12:08 GMT
dwright@dehli.voicenet.com (Darren Wright) wrote:
>Two questions about NewsGrazer:
>1. Is there any way to widen the News Group List view? If I make the window
>bigger, it widens only the article window...
Drag the nobe between the article and newsgroup matrix...
>2. What is my modem doing the whole time? I cam from TIN...where the
modem
>would go nuts the first minute, and then when you read the group or article...
>but NG has been going crazy for like 10 minutes now.....nonstop! What is it
>doing?
NG issued a "LIST" command. The nntp server then returns a list of all available
newsgroup. This takes some time.
There is no way to change this behavior in NG.
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From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: Utilities to Convert Mac PS and/or TT fonts to Black Next?
Message-ID: <D86H7y.1w0@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 22:31:09 GMT
Hi all,
I recently laid my hands on a CD of shareware Mac PostScript and Truetype
fonts. While most of them are already available for NeXT, there are a few I
could really use, and I'm hoping that there is a freeware/shareware/PD program
that will help me convert them. ConvertFont only works for Mac bitmapped
fonts, and the FAQ has some very convoluted instructions that I expect would
take up a great deal of my time, which would be uncalled for if the beast I'm
looking for does exist. If it matters, I'm using NS 3.0 on an 040 Slab with 20
megs. Thanks in advance. Peace,
James
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From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: How to eject Mac and PC CDs under 3.0
Message-ID: <D86Hw6.1y5@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 22:45:41 GMT
Hi all,
Me again. I noticed this problem a long time ago, but only recently have I
begun using my CDROM drive enough for it to be a major pain. Whenever I insert
a CD that is not a NeXT CD, it will not allow me to eject it from the workspace
disk/eject menu. It is greyed out. Is there a fix or a workaround for this.
Thanks in advance. Peace,
James
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|___________________________________________________________________|
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| |
| Intern Minister 64-66 Marlborough Street|
| First and Second Church in Boston Boston, MA 02116 |
| (Unitarian Universalist) 617-267-6730 |
|___________________________________________________________________|
From: john@wpa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ISDN-based teleconferencing under NeXTSTEP
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 23:22:41 GMT
Organization: iCON, a service of St. Louis Internet Connections
Message-ID: <950506182241.911AABoI.john@nimno>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I've recently set up an ISDN telecommuting environment for my wife, between
her office downtown and our home. Both sites have Ascend Pipeline 50 routers
installed. I would like to experiment with setting up video capabilities,
but I am unaware of anything being offered for NeXTSTEP. Assuming that the
inexpensive cameras that are available for Windows and Mac usage are also
usable for NeXTSTEP, what type of software support would be required to
drive this?
I vaguely recall seeing some video stuff at the 93 NWE, but I think that was
pretty expensive stuff that was probably not suitable for "home" use (read:
inexpensive :-).
Does anyone have any experience doing this that they could share with me?
I'd settle for wild speculation on what would be required, software wise, to
make this work.
Anyone?
John Bartley
john@wpa.com
From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is GNU Fortran ready for NS?
Date: 7 May 1995 03:25:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <3oheim$sef@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Hi,
Any one can tell me how (or where) to obtain the GNU Fortran for NEXTSTEP?
Thanks
From: Wesley C. Smith <wes@take3.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Using Mail with PPP
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 16:58:41 GMT
Organization: Take 3
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950506125841.981AAABE.wes@sherlock.take3.com>
References: <3o8f9g$id2@news4.primenet.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: TEXT/enriched; CHARSET=US-ASCII
<smaller>>I've successfully installed the PPP package, but there is no
information
>on how it works with mail.
You could use Eloquent instead of Mail.app. Since Eloquent can send mail
directly with SMTP you wouldn't need to mess with sendmail on your local
machine. Eloquent also supports POP3 (and IMAP) directly -- no need to use
POPOver.
For more info on Eloquent send e-mail to eloquent_info@take3.com
Wesley C. Smith
wes@take3.com NeXT, MIME, ASCII, SUN, Microsoft
Take 3 (616) 228-6556 phone
P.O. Box 40
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From: wich1820@maynard.ww.tu-berlin.de (Thorsten Wichmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica on 3.3
Date: 7 May 1995 14:35:43 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3oilrv$mbp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <199505041445.JAA09616@jupiter.fnbc.com>
In article <199505041445.JAA09616@jupiter.fnbc.com> writes:
>
> I have Mathematica 2.2 on NS3.2 currently. I am ready to upgrade to
> NS3.3 (both User and Dev) and was wondering if there are any problems
> running Mathematica on 3.3.
>
I'm using 3.3 and Mathematica 2.2 on a black NeXT quite intensively. No
problems that I'm aware of.
Thorsten
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From: jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is GNU Fortran ready for NS?
Date: 7 May 1995 16:32:23 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3oismn$qv2@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3oheim$sef@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
In article <3oheim$sef@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
writes:
> Hi,
> Any one can tell me how (or where) to obtain the GNU Fortran for NEXTSTEP?
The source tree is available from GNU sites i.e. prep.ai.mit.edu has:
ftp> pwd
257 "/pub/gnu" is current directory.
ftp> dir g77*
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
-rw-r--r-- 1 14910 wheel 5081 Feb 23 15:37 g77-0.5.10-0.5.11.diff.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 14910 wheel 1655 Feb 23 15:37 g77-0.5.11-0.5.12.diff.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 14910 wheel 10312 Feb 25 18:58 g77-0.5.12-0.5.13.diff.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 14910 wheel 655979 Feb 25 18:58 g77-0.5.13.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 14910 wheel 669037 Apr 28 06:10 g77-0.5.14.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 14910 wheel 16345 Feb 21 15:33 g77-0.5.8-0.5.9.diff.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 14910 wheel 4003 Feb 22 17:28 g77-0.5.9-0.5.10.diff.gz
and yes, it builds under NeXT (you should have a recent gcc built beforehand):
tshimshan:/Users/jmack>file /usr/local/bin/g77
/usr/local/bin/g77: Mach-O executable not stripped
tshimshan:/Users/jmack>g77 -v
gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-next-nextstep3/2.6.3/specs
gcc version 2.6.3
Cheers,
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Perl-5 ? and simple Q abt Lynx
Keywords: Perl Lynx
References: <3o4024$r6u@alcor.usc.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 08:11:35 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May7.081135.6847@proximus.north.de>
In article <3o4024$r6u@alcor.usc.edu>, Matthew Nathaniel Reichman
<reichman@alcor.usc.edu> wrote:
>I am looking for Perl-5 (if it exists) and already precompiled or set up as
>a pkg for 3.3 M68k
I would be very interested in such a pkg as well.
Gerhard.
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From: gt4544c@prism.gatech.edu (Anoushirvan Shariat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: price on NextStep
Date: 7 May 1995 15:14:34 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt4544c@prism.gatech.edu
Message-ID: <3oj66q$rpm@acmey.gatech.edu>
Can someone give a a price on NextStep and Developer kit for PC.
Is there any student discount on the package?
Thanks.
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Internet: gt4544c@prism.gatech.edu
From: boyd@ducky.idbsu.edu (Boyd Wold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb: Does it support Adobe Acrobat?
Date: 7 May 1995 20:23:06 GMT
Organization: Boise State University
Message-ID: <3oja7a$8cn@euskadi.idbsu.edu>
I am trying to use OmniWeb, which I have been most pleased with, to access
TimesFAX and some of the IRS forms. Is there a viewer I can use to see
these files?
-B
bwold@envirolink.org
From: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs_for_Nextstep (where is)
Date: 7 May 1995 02:10:41 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3oha71$nut@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <3oeap7$hbv@news.service.uci.edu>
In article <3oeap7$hbv@news.service.uci.edu>,
Richard Myers <rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu> wrote:
> OK, I'm entering the valley of darkness...
>
> I'm looking for the most recent version of Emacs_for_Nextstep - the one
> I got off peanuts seemed broken.
Get version 4.0 from either ftp.cs.orst.edu or peanuts. Nobody but
beta testers on the beta tester list should use anything else. For
beta testers 4.07 was released today which should become the next
public release 4.1 within a week or two.
Carl Edman
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb: Does it support Adobe Acrobat?
Date: 8 May 1995 02:55:02 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ok166$rad@aura.cu.soltec.com>
References: <3oja7a$8cn@euskadi.idbsu.edu>
"No offense; Tailor is awesome, but it's no substitute for an
Adobe Acrobat viewer. I think it really sucks that NeXT (to my
knowledge) is not doing anything about this..." --Michael B. Johnson
Maybe something about PDF files on NS should be added to the FAQ. Any
reviews on how complete the ghostscript (via X) PDF support is?
Tailor's PDF support is pretty weak--basically ASCII PDF file support.
And apparently Adobe won't port Acrobat to NS.
From: ksmith@telesource.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Have Used Copy Of NS 3.2
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 07:11:16 GMT
Organization: scruz-net
Message-ID: <950508001116.6204AAC7F.kevin@ksmith>
References: <robe0149.799130271@gold.tc.umn.edu> <Z+7daFO.maxwellort@delphi.com>
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I have the NS 3.2 CD which I'd like to trade for the latest working copies
of Create and FrameMaker, with non-expiring licenses of course. Please reply
to:
cs@telesource.com
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NeXTMail Preferred!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Satan
Date: 8 May 1995 07:18:11 GMT
Organization: Seednet, Institute for Information Industry, Taiwan
Message-ID: <3okgjj$qei@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Keywords: Satan
Dear NeXT Users,
Does anyone know where to find Satan already compiled for NeXTStep/Intel?
I would be very appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 8 May 1995 00:15:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3ojnqc$3uv@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
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This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
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The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
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ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Message-ID: <9505080646.AA10270@alleg.EDU>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v116.1)
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@alleg.EDU>
Date: Mon, 8 May 95 02:46:48 -0400
Subject: anyone out there using SimonSays?
I've been playing with the demo.
Anyone using the 'full' version. Is it a real improvement?
be interested to hear from anyone. Email if you'd prefer.
TjL
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Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
[ Please note: my email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Satan
Date: 8 May 1995 12:17:38 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <3ol252$104@cocoa.brown.edu>
References: <3okgjj$qei@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw writes
> Dear NeXT Users,
>
> Does anyone know where to find Satan already compiled for NeXTStep/Intel?
> I would be very appreciated.
>
> Thank you in advance.
Sorry if I offend anyone by jumping to conclusions, but...is this a troll?
What _possible_ use could anyone have for a piece of software that runs
only as root, precompiled by a stranger on the net? And how many people
without compilers of their own administer networks, anyway?
You cannot raise money enough |================================================
to hire a man who is minding | Joshua Burton 401/435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
his own business. -- Thoreau |================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Mathematica on 3.3
References: <199505041445.JAA09616@jupiter.fnbc.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 05:12:52 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May8.051252.10409@proximus.north.de>
In article <199505041445.JAA09616@jupiter.fnbc.com>,
H. Bret Young <hby@fnbc.com> wrote:
>
>I have Mathematica 2.2 on NS3.2 currently. I am ready to upgrade to
>NS3.3 (both User and Dev) and was wondering if there are any problems
>running Mathematica on 3.3.
Not that I am aware of. At least I have had no problem up today. However,
this is my experience and of course, I do not guarantee that it works for
you as well... ;-) [I have a black NeXT.]s
Gerhard.
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From: pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it (pisati stefano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb Gate and Proxie ???
Date: 8 May 1995 14:20:28 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Message-ID: <3ol9bc$20q@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Hi, I've OmniWeb 1.0 Prerelease 1 and I've some problem settings proxie on
my sistem. Has anyone setup them correctly ?
TIA
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From: kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem on Playing CD on NX
Date: 8 May 1995 21:58:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3om45t$r0c@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
References: <3oj66q$rpm@acmey.gatech.edu>
Hi I have problem on playing CD music on my Intel Based NexTStep. I use
SoundBlaster16. All of the sound effect are working. When I try to play
the CD player, there is no music come out .....
Is there something I forgot the set up ?
Thanks
Kurniawan
From: Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need help sending .ps files to another system
Date: Mon, 8 May 95 14:32:30 GMT
Organization: Squirrel Bin
Sender: preston@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <08May1432300321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <D80s87.JMG@athena.ulaval.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
In article: <D80s87.JMG@athena.ulaval.ca> Antoine Gautier
<antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca > writes
> on a SUN/SUN-OS machine. I generate a .ps file from TeXView, uuencode
One problem may be, is that uuencode isn't always reliable except from
machine to machine. Or from version to version. The ps file should be
text. Try just sending it as such.
Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
Newt-thought is right-thought. Go Newt!
From: alcorn@cmn6.Stanford.EDU (Michael Alcorn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dots3.5.5 - info please...
Date: 8 May 1995 17:26:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3olk8k$r3f@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Can anyone tell enlighten me on this application:
source?
which printers it supports?
is it a `free' or a commercial app?
are there any alternative applications that allow printing on (cheap)
non-ps printers?
Many thanks
Michael Alcorn
alcorn@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems downloading mac software on a NeXT - help needed!
Date: 8 May 1995 12:02:51 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3ol19b$t3f@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
Simple problem - I want to download Mac software from the net using my NeXT.
The problem is - files download in bog-standard binary format. How can I
convert them to MacBinary format to put them on my PowerBook?
Any help would be appreciated!! Currently this is driving me crazy.
--
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From: rutledge@camis.Stanford.EDU (Geoffrey Rutledge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need help sending .ps files to another system
Date: 8 May 1995 22:04:15 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3om4gv$ncl@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <08May1432300321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu>
In article <08May1432300321@urkabox.chem.lsa.umich.edu> Peter Urka
<pcu@umich.edu> writes:
> In article: <D80s87.JMG@athena.ulaval.ca> Antoine Gautier
> <antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca > writes
> > on a SUN/SUN-OS machine. I generate a .ps file from TeXView, uuencode
>
> One problem may be, is that uuencode isn't always reliable except from
> machine to machine. Or from version to version. The ps file should be
> text. Try just sending it as such.
>
> Peter Urka <pcu@umich.edu>
> Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Michigan
> Newt-thought is right-thought. Go Newt!
>
You cannot/should not rely on sending plain ps files via email. The problem is
that there are line-length limits on mail, and ps files can have lines that
exceed the limits.
Some mailers will truncate files that exceed arbitrary size limits (eg, 32k),
which makes it necessary to split up the file to send.
uuencode/uudecode should work regardless of the machine or software version.
Geoff
--
Geoffrey Rutledge rutledge@camis.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: seaside!nwc (Nick Christopher)
Subject: Re: Samba on a v. small network ??
Message-ID: <D89HBs.sz@orc-ny.com>
Sender: nwc@orc-ny.com (Nick Christopher)
Organization: Organization Resources Counselors, Inc.
References: <3ocsbl$dt6@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 13:26:15 GMT
> I've got an old NeXT cube at home and want to network it up via
> Samba to a couple of PC's.
Networked via Samba? So, that's where the bits, each holding the rump of
the bit in front of them of course, dance from machine to machine....DUN
dun dun dun DUN dun! Oh no - that's a Conga network.. I always confuse
the two. Nevermind.
\n
From: otto@coactive.com (Otto Lind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Samba on a v. small network ??
Date: 8 May 1995 20:41:18 GMT
Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc.
Message-ID: <3olvle$i4@disc.coactive.com>
References: <3ocsbl$dt6@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Rupert Hollom (rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk) wrote:
: I've got an old NeXT cube at home and want to network it up via Samba
: to a couple of PC's. I've got the latest version of Samba to compile
: OK but how do I stop the NeXT looking for NetInfo stuff, or can I get
: Samba to run alongside NetInfo.
:
: I want to be able to use the NeXT printer from the PC's and also some
: of its disk space.
Samba runs out of the box on NeXT systems, no special configuration is
needed. We have a bunch of PC's using our NeXT drives and printers. Let
me know if you have any specific questions.
Otto
P.S. You may want to enable the TCP_NODELAY option for performance.
--
Otto Lind Coactive Aesthetics
otto@coactive.com 4000 Bridgeway/Suite-303 Sausalito, CA 94965
netcom!coactive!otto voice:(415)289-1725 fax:(415)289-1320
From: pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it (pisati stefano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PGP on NeXT ???
Date: 9 May 1995 12:43:09 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Message-ID: <3ono0t$74v@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Anyone know where can I find pgp 2.6.x compiled for NeXTStep 3.3 (black
hardware) ?
TIA
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From: pneves@rccn.net (Paulo Neves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software for CD-ROM's
Date: 9 May 1995 14:16:22 GMT
Organization: FCCN - RCCN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ontfm$kib@regulus.rccn.net>
Hello.
My name is Paulo Neves and i'm from Portugal.
I hope you can help me. I need freeware for a NEXT station. That NEXT has a CD's
reader and i'd like to ear some commom CD's of music. The problem is that i don't
have any software to do so. Can you give me some advise ? Thanks in advance.
--
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Paulo Neves
pneves@rccn.net
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From: adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew P Drake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I need a FAT Binary Splitter! Where?
Date: 9 May 1995 14:26:25 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3onu2h$d78@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
The subject says it all - I'm looking for an app to strip only the Motorla
segment out of a FAT binary. Where can I find one?
Thanks!
-Andrew
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3oeap7$hbv@news.service.uci.edu>
Control: cancel <3oeap7$hbv@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: 9 May 1995 14:54:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3onvo0$3ac@news.service.uci.edu>
<3oeap7$hbv@news.service.uci.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DataBase product info ??
Date: 9 May 1995 17:28:01 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3oo8n1$4a0@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3obl69$m79@server.ping.ch>
In article <3obl69$m79@server.ping.ch> ltinguely@ping.ch (Lionel Tinguely)
writes:
:Hello !
:
:
:Do you know a Database for NeXTSTEP comparable to ACCESS for Window
:
Below is more information on three database packages available for
NEXTSTEP. Two of these, Dataphile and Variodata Pro, are flatfile
databases that come with tools to build interfaces. There is no doubt
that either of these flat file databases is more powerful and user
friendly than comparable packages on Windows (e.g. FileMaker Pro).
QuickBase is a SQL compliant relational database application that comes
with development and administration tools. It is a power user database,
that generally requires coding. It supports EOF. If you have more
questions about these applications, please call us at OpenSource, Inc.,
the single-source for NEXTSTEP hardware and software.
Regards,
Garrett L. Rice
OpenSource, Inc.
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
303.861.2393 FAX
garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
DataPhile
------------
A sophisticated end-user database system for NEXTSTEP. DataPhile is for
users who don't need the complexities of a rigid relational database.
DataPhile's intuitive interface allows anyone to build and generate
reports and labels from a personal flatfile database, quickly and easily.
Field types include text, rich text, value, date, money, yes/no/empty,
picture, sound and file (which accepts drag-and-drop of any file's icon,
then accesses the file when clicked). Entry options include defaults,
calculations, ranges, autogenerated sequences and entry lists. Users can
define any number of fields and can add, modify or delete fields at any
time.
DataPhile can generate a new database from text data; if the data resides
in another database, export it to a text file that DataPhile can import.
The Services menu and the DataWell simplify interapplication data
exchange. Use the DataWell to drag a record, EPS, PS and drop it into
another application.
Developer
Stone Design Corp.
QuickBase 4.0
--------------
An SQL database server designed for NEXTSTEP. QuickBase-SQL includes a
Database Kit adaptor, an Objective-C library, a client management
application, and a number of database utilities. It supports basic types,
including character strings, integers, dates, times, money, floating point
numbers, and blobs (text, image, files, and folders). It also supports
aggregate functions, notification, and triggers.
QuickBase comes with several example programs, in source and executable
form, including an invoicing and client management system. Application
Builder is bundled with QuickBase.
Developer
SofDesign Solutions, Corp.
VarioData Pro
---------------
A powerful, flexible flat-file database capable of managing text, numbers,
dates, images, sounds, files, and key words. An extensive list of tools is
available for designing reports, searching for specific data records,
integrating with FrameMaker, and much more. VarioData offers an import and
export interface with user-definable filters and the ability to easily
design and print labels, merged letters, and listings-all within a
friendly graphical user interface. VarioData offers multi-user network
capability, and records in use are locked and unlocked automatically.
VarioData also includes an extensive context-sensitive help facility.
Developer
Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
From: md1hakan@mdstud.chalmers.se (H}kan Jonsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: wrong colours in mpeg-2.0
Date: 9 May 1995 08:11:18 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics and Computing Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3on836$m3i@nyheter.chalmers.se>
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Hi!
I downloaded mpeg-2.0 from peanuts I think, and have installed it.
It runs, but with the wrong colours. I thought it could create its own colormap
if necessary, but nope. Can anyone help?
/hakan
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there software for tape backups on black hardware?
Date: 9 May 1995 08:13:31 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3on87b$o1j@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
References: <3nqske$o77@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
In article <3nqske$o77@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu
writes:
> I have a black hardware next, and I also have a tape backup drive
> (Conner 4356XP). I am being told that the best way to do backups may be
> to use GNUtar. However, with the NeXT philosophy being what it is, I
> would think that there MUST be a more elegant and convenient application
> to do backups from a NeXT TurboColor slab. Is there?
>
> --
> Jesus Dapena
> Department of Kinesiology
> Indiana University
> Bloomington, IN 47405, USA
> 1-812-855-8407 (office phone)
> dapena@valeri.hper.indiana.edu (email)
I've heard that SafetyNet is a good alternative. Try contacting the suppliers -
Systemix, who do good educational discounts. email: brian@Systemix.COM (Brian
Cuthie).
--
Donald Baird Voice: +44 1786 467926
Environment Group Fax : +44 1786 472133
Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
Stirling University W3 : http://www.stirling.ac.uk/
Scotland FK9 4LA
* * * * * * * * * * * * * NeXT / MIME Mail Welcome! * * * * * * * * * *
From: dion.dock@mccaw.com (Dion Dock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I need a FAT Binary Splitter! Where?
Date: 9 May 1995 16:27:29 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3oo55h$k7l@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com>
References: <3onu2h$d78@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
> The subject says it all - I'm looking for an app to strip only the Motorla
> segment out of a FAT binary. Where can I find one?
You can find one on your NeXT. Take a look at the man page for "lipo".
-dion
--
Dion Dock Paradigm Systems
\\||//
--DOOM--
Product Delivery, Axys project. //||\\ dion.dock@mccaw.com
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 9 May 1995 17:35:10 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3oo94e$4el@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
In article <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Elric Lak
<73064.3715@CompuServe.COM> writes:
:Does anyone know anything about modelling/animation
:software for NeXT (on 040 25mhz NeXT hardware, say, with
:Dimension board populated with an i860)??
:
:I have experience with Alias and SoftImage, and
:procedural Renderman. Any suggestions???
:
:--
:e-mail: zcwayhl@ucl.a.uk Compuserve: e-mail for details
Below is more information on two modeling/rendering/animation packages for
NEXTSTEP. Feel free to contact us if you have more questions.
Sincerely,
Garrett L. Rice
OpenSource, Inc. "The Single-source for NEXTSTEP hardware & software"
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
303.861.2393 FAX
garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
solidThinking Modeler
---------------------
solidThinking MODELER an advanced professional 3D modeler, was the winner
of the 1993 NeXTWORLD magazine Best of Breed Award in the 3D and CAD
category.
Features include: support for DXF, TIFF, TDDD, Wavefront, OpenCAD, and RIB
file formats; a complex primitives generator with quadric, patch, and
NURBS support; morphing; motion blur for simulating moving objects; an
advanced 2D profile editor with Bezier curves; editable 3D text; multiple
lofting and deformations on extruded or rotated objects; editing of every
surface's points by simply using the mouse; an extremely powerful "skin"
feature that makes it possible to create surfaces that fit across a number
of cross-sectionals; Boolean operations of addition, subtraction, and
intersection; advanced shading controls (including customization); an
icon-based attributes library; the ability to convert bitmapped images
into textures; preview of textures; an object hierarchy browser; an
unlimited number of light sources; automatic generation of shadows and
reflection maps; and unlimited output resolution.
Vendor
Gestel Italia srl
intuitiv'3d
-----------
intuitiv'3d is a complete modeling and rendering environment in three
dimensions for all designers, architects and illustrators.intuitiv'3d
provides a fast and powerful interface to access Renderman functionality.
intuitiv'3d provides numerous innovative features: snapshot rendering
displayed in real-time in the window, dynamic user libraries of objects
and shaders, 3D scrapbook, free-form sweeping, automatic generation of
shadows and reflections ... and more!
Features include:
Real-time smooth 3D perspective views, Innate 2D drawing tools,
Interactive Lathe, Freeform Extrude, Primitive Shapes, Orthographic Views,
Align tools, Arrangers, Numerical Entries, World Hierarchy Browser,
Dynamic Libraries and Scrapbook, Virtual Camera, Quick Rendering, Texture
Mapping, Photo-Quality Rendering, Import and Export.
Shaders: Simply drop shader swatches on shapes to assign any imaginable
material. Use Metashaders to handle in a single object : color,
transparency, texture mapping, bumpiness, rendering speed and
interpolation. In the interactive Shader panel, finely tune your own
materials. Full compliance with Pixar and The Valis Group extensible
libraries of shaders.
Developer
Intuitive Systems, Inc.
--
Garrett L. Rice
OpenSource, Inc.
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
303.861.2393 FAX
garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Archer)
Subject: Using printer PostScript fonts on HPLJ4M
Message-ID: <D8A17z.C76@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Keywords: PostScript, HPLJ4M
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 20:35:58 GMT
Hi!
I use a HP LaserJet 4M on a black non-turbo NeXTstation, and have always wondered if it is possible to access/use the PS fonts that came with the printer (e.g. Palatino, New Century Schoolbook). Anyone out there know if this is possible, and if so, how to do it?
Thanks.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher L. Archer Data Processing, University of Waterloo
clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (519) 885-1211 ext. 2292
P.S. This is my first post, so please excuse any errors, esp. distribution, etc.
Any advice appreciated :)
From: Elric Lak <73064.3715@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VideoEditing Software?
Date: 8 May 1995 21:32:45 GMT
Organization: University College London
Message-ID: <3om2lt$mro$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
I am interested in finding out if there is any software/hardware
for video editing on a NeXT 040 (25).
Can anyone with info please e-mail me at zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk.
Please do not use my Compuserve no.
Cheers!
Elric
--
e-mail: zcwayhl@ucl.a.uk Compuserve: e-mail for details
From: Elric Lak <73064.3715@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 8 May 1995 21:44:02 GMT
Organization: University College London
Message-ID: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
Does anyone know anything about modelling/animation
software for NeXT (on 040 25mhz NeXT hardware, say, with
Dimension board populated with an i860)??
I have experience with Alias and SoftImage, and
procedural Renderman. Any suggestions???
--
e-mail: zcwayhl@ucl.a.uk Compuserve: e-mail for details
From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (W F Clocksin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Another way to store old mail messages?
Date: 9 May 1995 11:40:05 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <3onkal$je@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Has anyone ever considered storing old mail messages in a way they can be
accessed by a Browser? Mail's method of using lots of different Mailboxes is
cubersome, and uses up screen space needlessly. Maybe a Browser view (rather
like NewsGrazer's Browser View) would be a more convenient way to store old
messages in different categories. Are there any apps that do this?
W.F. Clocksin
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: ** Emergency Startup Kit for NSFIP**
Message-ID: <jpanicoD8C062.6qL@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D8BErG.p7@softpac.com.au> <3oolbr$ojc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 22:08:25 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom3.netcom.com
weintz steven cortelou (indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: BTW, Bernoullis work very well under NS. We use them for sneakernet
: between the Mac network and the NS network, in conjunction with a
: DayDream box, as emergency boot disks, and as sneakernet-via-FedEx :-)
: The 150MB drivesd can be had for under $400 now, and cartridges cost
: around $80.
Thought I'd also point out that the Iomega Zip drives also work quite well
under NS. With Zip you can achieve near Bernoulli performance for a small
fraction of the cost.
Zip drive = $200-$170
100 Mb Zip disk = $17.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
: --
: Steve Weintz * Art Director & Coding Manager * New Media Publishing, Inc.
: (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) * http://www.melvin.com/
: indy@melvin.com * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820
: -= Crass Announcement of a Commercial WWW Publication Goes Here =-
From: Owen Dulmage <zalkind@access5.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Mac User adding a NeXT
Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 18:37:02 -0400
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950509183004.8931B-100000@access5.digex.net>
References: <3nojp3$moh@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3nojp3$moh@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I'm a mac user from way back. I'm REAL familiar with the MacOS,
as well as a few other os's. Anyway, there's a couple things I want to
know.
1) I know that the NeXT has DSP built in... how can one utilize it?
2) How easy is it to get software for it?
3) I deal HEAVILY with MIDI equipment, are there any good MIDI
programs out there, or is it all based on DSP?
Thanks in advance for any reply! (E-mail please, if that's ok)
Owen (zalkind@access.digex.net)
By the way, I'm considering a NeXT Cube 68030 with 8megs of RAM,
a 340mb hard drive, a 17" MegaPixel Display, with NeXT Step 3.0. Any
positive or negative feedback about any of the above would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
Subject: ** Emergency Startup Kit for NSFIP**
Message-ID: <D8BErG.p7@softpac.com.au>
Keywords: Emergency kit
Sender: dave@softpac.com.au (Dave Thomas)
Organization: Softpac Pty. Ltd., Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 14:26:04 GMT
Has anyone built an Emergency Start-Up kit for NS on Intel?
We need to do so, but would not like to re-invent the wheel. I expect that
it should be made up in such a way so as to rectify this problem:
Suppose you have deleted the fstab by accident (which of course is damn
silly) BUT having done the silly thing you reboot the machine. You would
get a read only file system which looks at and nothing else...
How could you bring the system back without reinstalling the whole thing
and losing the hours of hard work you have put in?
Any suggestions from out there, would be appreciated..
Needless to say, this kit would have to fit on to a floppy !! ??
Rgds dave t
From: Mueller1@Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE (Ulrich Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for: FTP-soft with sricpt (DOS) for login/retrieving files fully automatically
Date: 10 May 1995 07:11:24 GMT
Organization: Hochschulrechenzentrum der Universitaet Marburg
Message-ID: <3opous$aq1@surz03.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Hello!
I need FTP-software which runs with a script to login to FTP-servers and
to retrieve files from them fully automatically (non manuell).
Does somebody know whether such software exists and where to get it?
regards from Marburg/Germany
Ulrich Mueller
e-mail: mueller1@mailer.uni-marburg.de
From: luc@ife-lipps1.ee.tu-berlin.de (Luc Krembel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Beginner: How to install a soft on NeXT
Date: 9 May 1995 07:56:59 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3on78b$dck@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Hi
I'd like to know how to install some software I've downloaded with ftp
on a NeXT Cube (Nextstep 2.1 and Motorola proc.).
For the case it's Omniweb, but the question is general.
I've uncompressed the file OmniWeb-1.0.app.tar.gz to obtain
OmniWeb.app. When I click on the icon, a window is opened but
the program doesn't run and give the message "process exited".
The application icon is also not a specific icon, it's the default icon for
app progs.
Are there some specials things to do before starting my program ?
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Luc Krembel
From: "Paul T. Root" <proot@acs.uswest.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quantrix?
Date: 10 May 1995 12:56:21 GMT
Organization: !nterprise Networking Services
Message-ID: <3oqd5l$8s2@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
A couple of weeks ago the site to get Quantrix (replacement for Improv)
was posted. I down loaded the files, but when I tried to expand them, I got
checksum errors with gunzip.
Could someone email or post the location of these again?
Thanks,
Paul.
--
Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service proot@acs.uswest.com
[License Disclaimer: this article is in the public domain. you may copy]
[it and distribute it as long as you don't tell anybody I wrote it.... ]
From: jmb@sma.ch (Jean-Marie Bettems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TTYDSP and Yrrid
Date: 10 May 1995 12:19:18 GMT
Organization: Swiss Meteorological Institute
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3oqb06INN5db@maz4.sma.ch>
Hello !
I am interested buying TTYDSP and I am trying to contact Yrrid without success. Does
anybody know if they are still in business? How to contact them?
Subsidary question: do you have good/bad experience with TTYDSP
Thanks for all information
Jean-Marie Bettems
jmb@sma.ch
From: alex@bark.oit.gatech.edu (Alex)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do you redirect mic input to speakers (black hardware) ?
Date: 10 May 1995 12:39:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3oqc6u$rsk@mordred.gatech.edu>
I have a Turbo slab running 3.0 and I want to be able to plug a CD
player into the mic input on back of the monitor and have it play
through the speakers. I know on a Sun you can do this by typing
"cat /dev/sound > /dev/sound", but the NeXT doesn't have a /dev/sound.
Anybody know which device(s) I need to redirect? Thanks.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Alex Shillington
Georgia Institute of Technology - OIT/Network Services
http://www.gatech.edu/oit/staff/ns/alex/
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bschun@archer.postech.ac.kr (Byungsun Chun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there "Internet Phone" S/W runned on NeXT?
Date: 10 May 1995 04:58:20 GMT
Organization: POSTECH, Pohang, Korea
Message-ID: <3oph5c$cho@xpat.postech.ac.kr>
I heard that there is Internet Phone S/W which is runned on DOS Windows.
And the "vocaltec" company provide that program as FreeWare .
Is there also S/W of "InterPhone" for NeXT?
If there is..How can I contact that?
By the way..the "Internet Phone" is very interesting..It is very cheap and it also support to face each other, and possible multi-conversation.
From: plongsi@falcon.inetnebr.com (Pohl Longsine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PC-speaker driver available for NEXT?
Date: 10 May 1995 15:14:31 GMT
Organization: Internet Nebraska
Message-ID: <3oql8o$dul@duck.inetnebr.com>
References: <emmerik.2.0011D3B5@knoware.nl>
Keep dreaming. The Windows driver for the PC speaker takes up the entire
CPU while a sound is playing. You can't afford to do this on a multitasking
machine. Either your sounds get interrupted, or your machine crashes. How
would you prefer the driver be written?
It doesn't exist. It won't exist. Buy a sound card. They're not that
expensive.
Pieter van Emmerik (emmerik@knoware.nl) wrote:
: Is there a sound driver for the PC-speaker that allows me to control the
: Volume under NEXT v3.2.
: There is a pretty good PC-speaker driver for MS-Windows. A dirver that would
: give me the quality of that one under NEXT would be good enough for my
: application.
--
____/| | Pohl Longsine, OpenStep Software Developer
\ o.O| GPF! | "I don't do Windows."
=(_)= CTLALTDLT! | plongsi@inetnebr.com (Internet Nebraska)
U (Bill Gates, The Cat) | NeXT & MIME mail formats accepted.
From: adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew P Drake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I'm having problems...NS3.0/BLK
Date: 10 May 1995 02:39:16 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3op90k$j2m@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Well all, being new to the NeXT scene, I am having problems getting off to the
right start. Here is my configuiration:
Slab/20mb/500mb
NS3.0
Now my problem is that I can't seem to run certain FAT binaries. Some will work
fine (from what I understand this is an order thing - if Motorola is first it
will work, otherwise not), but others will not. They appear to start up, but
then close suddenly. A prime example being the demo of OpenWrite 1.1. My
question is this - do I need to upgrade to 3.3BLK? Is there any way I can
simply strip out only the Motorolar binaries - some have said Lipo, but I
suspect that it shiped only with 3.2.
I'd really love to use the box and get some apps running on it. Can I stay with
NS3.0, or do I have to upgrade? If so, where would I go about finding a
reasonably priced copy of NS3.2 or 3.3 and what would it run?
BIG THANKS for ANY help!
-Andrew
From: bjorn@xanthus.se (Bjorn Backlund)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex,comp.text.frame,comp.text.interleaf,comp.text.sgml,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: The History of the Word Processor / Compound Documents
Date: 10 May 1995 13:54:22 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science
Message-ID: <3oqgie$254@sia.sics.se>
Keywords: word processors, compound documents
Hello Net,
Let me first introduce myself. My name is Bjorn Backlund and I am a
cofounder of a software company called Xanthus International. As a
software developer, Xanthus specializes in productivity software for the
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep platform. I have been the chief designer of both a
spreadsheet program (Questor) and a word processor (OpenWrite). (Btw, both
are Microsoft-compatible (i.e Excel and MSWord)).
I am currently working on a large document regarding a compound document
system (Open Object Embedding / OOE) I have designed for our products
(this system is to the functionality similar of the compound document
modules of OLE 2 and OpenDoc but much easier to adopt for app developers).
I intend to turn this document into a PhD thesis and that's why I write
this message to you. I am trying to compose a chapter about the history of
document systems in general and word processors in particular. Therefore I
would like your help to collect some data.
I am trying to collect two kinds of data:
a. first I would like to compile a list of all major word
processors/document systems.
b. when I have completed the list I would like to get in touch with
developers of the systems in order to collect more information about each
system.
The nutshell:
My current list of wordprocessors/document systems is enclosed below. If
you have a system to add, please drop me a message.
If you have access to email addresses of the developers behind any of the
systems, please share it with me.
If you know of somebody which could help me with this, please forward this
message to her/him.
Thanks in advance,
Bjorn Backlund
bjorn@xanthus.se
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Compound Document Systems
Name Note
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
OLE 1
OLE 2
OpenDoc
OOE
WordProcessors
Name Note
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ami Pro
Bravo Xerox Parc?
DisplayWrite
Edit NEXTSTEP
Edlin
Emacs
FrameMaker
FrameWork
FullWrite
HP Advance Write
IBM Writing Assistant
MacWrite
MSWord
MultiMate (Advantage, Advantage II, 4)
Interleaf
Lotus Manuscript
OfficeWriter
OpenWrite by Xanthus
Pages by Pages
PeachText
Professional Write
Signature
Sosc Tops20, Sun of Stop Cap?????
Stop Cap ???
Tex
Teco
TEdit Interlisp-D
Total Word
Vi
Vided KTH: Jacob Palme
Volkswriter (Deluxe)
WriteNow
WriteUp by AFS
WordPerfect
WordStar (2000)
Xerox Star
Xerox ViewPoint
XyWrite
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: cancel
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 07:19:39 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May9.071939.15521@proximus.north.de>
<1995May9.063505.14999@proximus.north.de> was cancelled from within trn.
From: kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Beginner: How to install a soft on NeXT
Date: 10 May 1995 16:44:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3oqqh3$ovu@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
References: <3on78b$dck@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
In <3on78b$dck@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> luc@ife-lipps1.ee.tu-berlin.de
(Luc Krembel) writes:
>
>Hi
>
>I'd like to know how to install some software I've downloaded with ftp
>on a NeXT Cube (Nextstep 2.1 and Motorola proc.).
>For the case it's Omniweb, but the question is general.
>
>I've uncompressed the file OmniWeb-1.0.app.tar.gz to obtain
>OmniWeb.app. When I click on the icon, a window is opened but
>the program doesn't run and give the message "process exited".
>The application icon is also not a specific icon, it's the default
icon for
>app progs.
>
>Are there some specials things to do before starting my program ?
>
>Thanks for your help.
>Regards,
>Luc Krembel
if you use uncompress in Workspace tool, that probably the reason.
Try this
gunzip OmniWeb-1.0.app.tar.gz
hit return and you will see that OmniWeb-1.0.app.tar.gz was replaced to
OmniWeb-1.0.app.tar
tar -xvf OmniWeb-1.0.app.tar
and everything now will be uncompress.
Kurniawan
From: kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MailHelper fat?
Date: 10 May 1995 17:37:03 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3oqtjv$1ctr@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: mailhelper
hi there.
anyone know if MailHelper was ever made tri/quad fat? we're
waiting for NS3.3 still -- does 3.3 Mail replace some of the
functions of MailHelper?
thanks for the help!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: joni@opensource.com (Joni Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: price on NextStep
Date: 10 May 1995 18:02:38 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3oqv3u$2mn@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3oj66q$rpm@acmey.gatech.edu>
In article <3oj66q$rpm@acmey.gatech.edu> gt4544c@prism.gatech.edu
(Anoushirvan Shariat) writes:
> Can someone give a a price on NextStep and Developer kit for PC.
> Is there any student discount on the package?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Anoushirvan Shariat
> Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
> uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt4544c
> Internet: gt4544c@prism.gatech.edu
--
Are you looking to buy used or new? If you are looking for a new NextStep
Developer kit, OpenSource, Inc. just recently made an agreement with NEXT
to sell all their products. Please feel free to call for prices.
Joni Jo Ross
Account Executive
OpenSource, Inc.
1-800-TRY-OPEN
joni@opensource.com
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ** Emergency Startup Kit for NSFIP**
Date: 9 May 1995 21:03:55 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3oolbr$ojc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <D8BErG.p7@softpac.com.au>
Keywords: Emergency kit
Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au> writes:
>Has anyone built an Emergency Start-Up kit for NS on Intel?
>We need to do so, but would not like to re-invent the wheel. I expect that
>it should be made up in such a way so as to rectify this problem:
>Suppose you have deleted the fstab by accident (which of course is damn
>silly) BUT having done the silly thing you reboot the machine. You would
>get a read only file system which looks at and nothing else...
>How could you bring the system back without reinstalling the whole thing
>and losing the hours of hard work you have put in?
>Any suggestions from out there, would be appreciated..
>Needless to say, this kit would have to fit on to a floppy !! ??
Actually, we use an external Bernoulli drive. I built a complete NS
User system, sans all the languages and some of the extensions, onto
a 150MB Bernoulli cartridge, with enough room for the swapfile and /tmp.
Then, when disaster struck, I simply reset the SCSI id of the Bernoulli
to 0, accessed the ROM monitor, and did a 'bsd'. I put copies of our
SafteyNet archives and other administrative tools, as well as copies
of modified disktab, fstab, etc. files on the Bernoulli, too.
Thus, you can boot off the Bernoulli, run a complete repair job
including restoring from tape, and get back to work without opening
the main case and changing jumpers.
BTW, Bernoullis work very well under NS. We use them for sneakernet
between the Mac network and the NS network, in conjunction with a
DayDream box, as emergency boot disks, and as sneakernet-via-FedEx :-)
The 150MB drivesd can be had for under $400 now, and cartridges cost
around $80.
--
Steve Weintz * Art Director & Coding Manager * New Media Publishing, Inc.
(217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) * http://www.melvin.com/
indy@melvin.com * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820
-= Crass Announcement of a Commercial WWW Publication Goes Here =-
From: joni@opensource.com (Joni Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FrameMaker 3.2
Date: 10 May 1995 17:00:52 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3oqrg4$1mi@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <m0s75R4-000btOC@a-gain>
In article <m0s75R4-000btOC@a-gain> writes:
>
> Does anybody, out there in the free world, know,
> when Frame is coming with a new version, that runs
> on NEXTSTEP for SPARC??
>
> Frame 3.2, 4.0 or even 5.0 ???
>
> Thanx,
> Steve
>
>
> stefan@a-gain.hanse.de
> ( NeXTmail favorized / MIME o.k.! )
FrameMaker 3.2 is now available for NEXTSTEP on Motorola, Intel and HP.
4.0 probably wont ship for NEXTSTEP, but there are rumors that 5.0 will.
Nonetheless, if you do need 3.2, which is a solid product, we carry it
here at OpenSource, Inc. Call for more information.
--
Joni Jo Ross
Account Executive
OpenSource, Inc.
1-800-TRY-OPEN
joni@opensource.com
From: joni@opensource.com (Joni Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dots3.5.5 - info please...
Date: 10 May 1995 18:23:59 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3or0bv$325@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3olk8k$r3f@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3olk8k$r3f@nntp.Stanford.EDU> alcorn@cmn6.Stanford.EDU
(Michael Alcorn) writes:
> Can anyone tell enlighten me on this application:
> source?
> which printers it supports?
> is it a `free' or a commercial app?
> are there any alternative applications that allow printing on (cheap)
> non-ps printers?
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> Michael Alcorn
> alcorn@ccrma.stanford.edu
Listed below are the printers DOTS supports:
Canon BJ10 Dots Mono Canon BJ200 Dots Mono
Canon BJ230 Dots Mono Canon BJ300 Dots Mono
Canon BJ330 Dots Mono Canon BJC600 Dots Color
Canon BJC800 Dots Color Canon BJC820 Dots Color
Canon CLC10 Dots CLC10 Canon CLC500 Dots CLC500
Canon CLC300 Dots CLC300
CoStar LabelWriterII Dots Label CoStar LabelWriterXL Dots Label
Epson 24 Pin Dots Mono Epson 24 Pin Wide Dots Mono
Epson Stylus Dots Mono Epson Stylus Color Dots Color
HP DeskJet 500 Dots Mono HP DeskJet 500C Dots Color
HP DeskJet 550C Dots Color HP DeskJet 1200C Dots PCL Color
HP DesignJet 600 Dots RTL HP DesignJet 650 Dots RTL
HP LaserJet II Dots Mono HP LaserJet III Dots Mono
HP LaserJet IV Dots Mon HP PaintJet XL Dots PCL Color
HP PaintJet XL300 PCL Dots PCL Color
IBM ProPrinter XL24 Dots Mono
IBM ProPrinter XL24 Dots Mono
NEC 24 Pin Dots Mono
NEC 24 Pin Wide Dots Mono
Seiko PhotoMaker CH-6104 Dots Thermosub
JetPilot is also a similar application. Please feel free to call if you
have any questions or need prices regarding these two products.--
Joni Jo Ross
Account Executive
OpenSource, Inc.
1-800-TRY-OPEN
joni@opensource.com
From: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: (No) problems with SafetyNet
Date: 10 May 1995 18:29:13 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
Message-ID: <3or0lp$esb@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
References: <yzhaoD868LL.1qA@netcom.com> <cpayne.25.2FB04D45@fiber.net>
In article <cpayne.25.2FB04D45@fiber.net> cpayne@fiber.net (Carl Payne) writes:
>>I am trying to use SafetyNet 2.3 for back up for several weeks without
>>success. It always goes this this
>
>Yep! Same here. Not a rare tale.
You should talk with Systemix and find out what's wrong-- they are
very helpful.
We use SafetyNet to back up around 4 Gigabytes every night onto an Exabyte
8500 from a NextStation Color Turbo. It works very well and at least
one grad student claims SafetyNet has greatly improved his quality of
life. Before we got SafetyNet we used gnutar for the whole-lab
backup, and individual users backed up their data with a mixture of
gnutar and mt (for tape positioning) to put multiple archives on each
Exabyte tape. SafetyNet is much easier for both archiving and
restoring files.
rick
--
Rick Gray, Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713) 798-3346 | Fax: (713) 799-8544
Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu | NeXTMail accepted
From: Dan_Menchaca@quickmail.apple.com (Joaquin Menchaca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Binary compatibility to icbs2 and HPUX
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 10:02:01 -0800
Organization: Apple
Message-ID: <Dan_Menchaca-1005951002010001@mac892.kip.apple.com>
Is NeXTStep x86 compatible with SCO binaries (icbs2 standard) like
UnixWare and Linux? On the HP workstations (not that I can afford one
yet), can NeXTStep run HPUX binaries. It would be nice to run NeXTStep
and only NeXTStep, but some vendors will not make NeXTStep applications or
at least the ones I wanna run like WordPerfect, CorelDraw, and MAE
(Macintosh Application Enviroment).
-jm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Samba on a v. small network ??
Message-ID: <1995May9.202711.1193@gamelan.shnet.org>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <3ocsbl$dt6@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 20:27:11 GMT
In article <3ocsbl$dt6@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
(Rupert Hollom) writes:
> I've got an old NeXT cube at home and want to network it up via Samba
> to a couple of PC's. I've got the latest version of Samba to compile
> OK but how do I stop the NeXT looking for NetInfo stuff, or can I get
> Samba to run alongside NetInfo.
>
> I want to be able to use the NeXT printer from the PC's and also some
> of its disk space.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Rupert.
It's quite easy: First you need Microsoft TCP/IP from ftp.microsoft.com.
Others just don't work. Second, read the samba manuals and install the
stuff (mainly typeing 'make install'). Configure a config file.
Mine looks like this:
[global]
printing = bsd
load printers = yes
log file = /usr/local/samba/log.%m
log level = 2
status = yes
print command = /usr/ucb/lpr -r %s
lpq command = /usr/ucb/lpq
lprm command = /usr/ucb/lprm %j
printcap name = /usr/local/samba/printcap
auto services = thomas printers
security = user
password level = 2
browsable = true
[homes]
comment = Home Directories
browseable = no
read only = no
create mode = 0750
[printers]
comment = All Printers
browseable = no
printable = yes
public = yes
writable = no
create mode = 0700
path = /tmp
[thomas]
comment = Thomas's Service
path = /thomas
valid users = thomas
user = thomas
public = yes
writable = yes
printable = no
[public]
path = /tmp
public = yes
writable = yes
printable = no
--
----- Thomas Funke ----------------------- thomas@gamelan.shnet.org -----
C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: SoftPC 4.0 cannot access 100MB dos partition on 1GB disk?
Message-ID: <D8Dr7t.AC4@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 20:50:17 GMT
SoftPC 4.0 under NEXTSTEP 3.3 seems to be unable to handle a 100MB MS-DOS
partition on my 1GB hard disk.
According to Insignia, this is a bug in NEXTSTEP which occurs with disks larger
than 540MB and there is a patch (this is not the DosFileSys patch for NS 3.1 &
3.2 I assume).
I tried to locate the patch on NeXTanswers but without luck. Does someone know
where I should look?
Thanks,
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: OCR software on NeXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95May10153247@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 19:32:45 GMT
Hi,
Is there any OCR software existing for NeXTSTEP?
I would like to automatically bring into ascii form a scanned tiff.
Thanks,
Francois Magnan
--
______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: Teele Horstra <teeleh@xs4all.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MS SQL Server & EOF - How to install
Date: 10 May 1995 17:50:06 GMT
Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses
Message-ID: <3oquce$o5f@news.xs4all.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi there,
I am trying to hookup a Microsoft SQL Server running on NT 3.5 into EOF
1.0. I have a fresly installed copy of SQL Server and a frest install of
NS 3.3 for Intel.
Does anybody know what I should do to:
Next: SERVICES file
INTERFACES file
NT: SERVICES file
And any other files or programs I might need to tweak to make this puppy
fly ?
Thanks a lot.
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there "Internet Phone" S/W runned on NeXT?
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 12:28:26 GMT
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <D8D3zF.qM@harka>
References: <3oph5c$cho@xpat.postech.ac.kr>
Originator: HARKA@nice.ethz.ch
Byungsun Chun (bschun@archer.postech.ac.kr) wrote:
> By the way..the "Internet Phone" is very interesting..It is very
> cheap and it also support to face each other, and possible
> multi-conversation.
Try IRC. It's full-duplex, you can talk to many people at the same
time and it uses much less bandwith than IPhone/InterPhone or
whatever. The only disadvantage: There's no sound.
- Felix
--
Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland.
From: HaroldAl@ix.netcom.com (Harold Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Medical Billing Software
Date: 10 May 1995 02:16:30 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3op7lu$g29@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
I'm looking for a Medical Billing software. If anyone know where
I can get this type of software please E-mail me at: HaroldAl@ix.netcom.com
Thank you.
A&T Services, Inc.
From: bestor@spam.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: latest NEXTTIME version?
Date: 11 May 1995 01:32:54 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept
Message-ID: <3orpg6$2ku@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
What's the latest version of NEXTTIME and how does one go about upgrading
an earlier version (short of buying the whole thing again)?
Thanks,
- Gareth
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help. The application NeXT_Meter won't launch.
Date: 10 May 1995 23:37:28 GMT
Organization: UB
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3orino$o5f@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: jh
I am running a NeXTstation with 3.0 installed. I just got an app,
NeXT_Meter that doesn't launch. I get the following message from the
console:
syslog: objc: class `NXSoundParameters' not linked into application
cleartime setto 30
start: report time = 1
SoundReporter:grabbed sound out device on host []
Meter[215]: objc: NXSoundOut: does not recognize selector -setParameters:
Can someone please tell me if there is a way of "fixing" this problem
or is 3.0 getting to old to run this app?
Thanks for your info.
Ze Tomas
From: cpayne@fiber.net (Carl Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Problem with SafetyNet
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 05:21:10 GMT
Organization: Fibernet: Satisfy the need for speed!
Message-ID: <cpayne.25.2FB04D45@fiber.net>
References: <yzhaoD868LL.1qA@netcom.com>
>I am trying to use SafetyNet 2.3 for back up for several weeks without
>success. It always goes this this
Yep! Same here. Not a rare tale.
>BTW, can someone recommend a better and easier to use backup utility on
>NeXT?
Beleive it or not, I use enTar. Sounds wonkie, I know, but it's pretty
cakewalk for doing odd stuff like backing up hews heirarchies without the
history files. I honestly beleive it was $89 very well spent (satisfaction
endorsement; I'm not affiliated with them)
I think the whole backup process needs a complete re-vamp. Who's up to the
task?
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TTYDSP and Yrrid
Date: 10 May 1995 23:04:36 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.
Message-ID: <3orgq4$pj@aura.cu.soltec.com>
References: <3oqb06INN5db@maz4.sma.ch>
jmb@sma.ch (Jean-Marie Bettems) writes:
>I am interested buying TTYDSP and I am trying to contact Yrrid without success. Does
>anybody know if they are still in business? How to contact them?
Try emailing info@yrrid.com; I believe there is a person at the
other end to answer your questions there.
>Subsidary question: do you have good/bad experience with TTYDSP
I have nothing but good experiences with them. If all NS developers
were as on top of their products as Yrrid is on top of theirs, NS
would be a much better environment. Cables and TTYDSP are both
excellent products, even when compared across environments and
operating systems.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: ** Emergency Startup Kit for NSFIP**
Message-ID: <jpanicoD8Eo91.10o@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D8BErG.p7@softpac.com.au> <3oolbr$ojc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <jpanicoD8C062.6qL@netcom.com> <andylee-1105950113390001@idtech.com>
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 08:43:49 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom11.netcom.com
Andy A. Lee (andylee@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <jpanicoD8C062.6qL@netcom.com>, jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
: wrote:
: > weintz steven cortelou (indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: >
: > : BTW, Bernoullis work very well under NS. We use them for sneakernet
: > : between the Mac network and the NS network, in conjunction with a
: > : DayDream box, as emergency boot disks, and as sneakernet-via-FedEx :-)
: >
: > : The 150MB drivesd can be had for under $400 now, and cartridges cost
: > : around $80.
: >
: >
: > Thought I'd also point out that the Iomega Zip drives also work quite well
: > under NS. With Zip you can achieve near Bernoulli performance for a small
: > fraction of the cost.
: >
: > Zip drive = $200-$170
: > 100 Mb Zip disk = $17.
: >
: > Joe Panico
: > jpanico@netcom.com
: >
: >
: > : --
: > : Steve Weintz * Art Director & Coding Manager * New Media Publishing, Inc.
: > : (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) * http://www.melvin.com/
: > : indy@melvin.com * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820
: > : -= Crass Announcement of a Commercial WWW Publication Goes Here =-
: Please correct me if I'm wrong. But isn't the drive limited to being SCSI
: ID #5 or #6? In other words, not bootable in most systems (my system only
: boot from SCSI ID #0 or #1, or the floppy).
Oops, that's right. I guess you can't boot from it. Sorry for the
misunderstanding.
: Andy Lee
: andylee@netcom.com
: andylee@cs.ucla.edu
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: ** Emergency Startup Kit for NSFIP**
Message-ID: <D8CDCH.Gy3@eskimo.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <D8BErG.p7@softpac.com.au>
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 02:53:04 GMT
Dave THOMAS (dave@softpac.com.au) wrote:
: Has anyone built an Emergency Start-Up kit for NS on Intel?
: How could you bring the system back without reinstalling the whole thing
: and losing the hours of hard work you have put in?
: Needless to say, this kit would have to fit on to a floppy !! ??
I'm at that stage of addressing that question for myself, Dave. I
started with the easiest choice, which is probably not a choice for
others: I installed NS on a 128MB MO disk.
Another option will arrive once I get my second hard drive installed,
I plan to install NS(bare bones) on it so that I can use it as an
alternative boot drive.
I'm just beginning to look at what I can do with a floppy/CD-ROM
combination. I'm not certain how far I can go with this last idea,
but I heard that if I boot in single user mode, and load the floppy
driver with the driver loader(d=../../private/Drivers/i386/Floppy), I
can mount the floppy on /temp with the following command:
/etc/mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp
If this allows me to copy and edit files, then I should do well to
mount other devices such as sd0a.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Substitute for Preview
Date: 11 May 1995 12:32:50 GMT
Organization: Seednet, Institute for Information Industry, Taiwan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ot05i$mcg@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Dear NeXT Users,
Does anyone know if there are freeware or shareware that may substitute
the function of bundled Preview?
Thank you for your assistance in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Looking for: FTP-soft with sricpt (DOS) for login/retrieving files fully automatically
References: <3opous$aq1@surz03.hrz.uni-marburg.de>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 11:57:24 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May11.115724.8929@proximus.north.de>
If you use a next (this is comp.sys.next.software), you can use the normal
UNIX command "ftp". Start it like ftp -n -v -i and pipe the ftp commands
into it. You can put it into background and start it as nohup. Looks like
that
nohup ftp -n -i -v < ftp.commands >> ftp.logfile &
The ftp.commands should look as any normal sequence of ftp commands, e.g.:
open ftp.foo.bar.us
user ftp hog@nildomain.de
bin
hash
cd /useless/stuff
mget resource-killer.*
close
open ....
...
close
quit
Of course, you can write very fancy scripts... I leave that as an exercise.
BTW: This is an excellent idea to get into trouble with sysadmins. ;-) Check
your quotas.
Gerhard.
In article <3opous$aq1@surz03.hrz.uni-marburg.de>,
Ulrich Mueller <Mueller1@Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE> wrote:
>Hello!
>
>I need FTP-software which runs with a script to login to FTP-servers and
>to retrieve files from them fully automatically (non manuell).
>
>Does somebody know whether such software exists and where to get it?
>
>regards from Marburg/Germany
>
>Ulrich Mueller
>
>e-mail: mueller1@mailer.uni-marburg.de
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu>
Subject: Re: named pipe
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 May 1995 04:42:26 GMT."
<D8ED2r.5Dt@postman.riken.go.jp>
Message-ID: <199505111515.LAA24642@slate.cs.rochester.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger)
Cc: comp.sys.next.software, comp.sys.next.programmer
Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 11:15:26 -0400
In message <D8ED2r.5Dt@postman.riken.go.jp>you write:
>I found that you cannot create a named pipe using "mknod" on NeXT, and
>"file" command canot recognize a named pipe created by other machine (in
>my case SUN) in a NFS-shared directory. However, I found that the named
>pipe thus created by SUN, actually works as a pipe on the NeXT.
>
>Does anybody know what is the proper way to create a named pipe on NeXT?
>--
>Nobu Kawai, RIKEN
Hi, Nobu.
I'm not on my NEXTSTEP machine right now, so I can't try what I'm
about to tell you, but I do recall successfully using the system call
mknod(2) (or was it mkfifo(2) ?) with mode S_IFIFO to create a named
pipe under NEXTSTEP 3.2.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Followups to comp.sys.next.programmer.
--Eric
---
Eric K. Ringger Internet: ringger@cs.rochester.edu
Dept. of Computer Science Phone: (716) 275-0922
University of Rochester FAX: (716) 461-2018
Rochester NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/
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From: bjg@fnth010.fnal.gov (Brian Gough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Bugs in Pencom co-Xist 3.3
Date: 11 May 1995 22:35:44 GMT
Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BJG.95May11173544@fnth010.fnal.gov>
Has anyone had problems with disappearing characters in Pencom co-Xist 3.3?
We just "upgraded" our NeXTstations from v3.0. Now any
overlapping X windows can cause characters near the overlap to
randomly disappear when the windows are raised, lowered or scrolled.
It seems to be a bug in the code dealing with the frame buffer
depth. This is making the product unusable for real work.
Any info appreciated, their co-Xist support guy has been unavailable.
Regards,
--
Brian Gough
Theoretical Physics, Fermilab,
PO Box 500, Batavia IL-60510.
tel: +1 708 840-3666 (fax 5435)
bjg@fnal.gov
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OCR software on NeXTSTEP?
Date: 11 May 1995 16:00:46 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3otcbe$inl@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <MAGNAN.95May10153247@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
In article <MAGNAN.95May10153247@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
magnan@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois) writes:
>
> Hi,
> Is there any OCR software existing for NeXTSTEP?
> I would like to automatically bring into ascii form a scanned tiff.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Francois Magnan
> --
> ______________________________________________________
> Francois Magnan
> Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
> Universite de Montreal
> email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
ExpressOCR by VISUS is an outstanding application. It utilizes the
award-winning Caere technology and supports many languages including
French. I had the pleasure of using this application last week, and I was
extremely impressed with the results.
ExpressOCR is available through OpenSource for $399 Educational, $499
Commercial. Let me know if you'd like more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: nkawai@postman.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai)
Subject: named pipe
Message-ID: <D8ED2r.5Dt@postman.riken.go.jp>
Sender: news@postman.riken.go.jp (News Administrator)
Organization: Institute of Physical & Chemical Research (RIKEN) Saitama,Japan
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 04:42:26 GMT
I found that you cannot create a named pipe using "mknod" on NeXT, and
"file" command canot recognize a named pipe created by other machine (in
my case SUN) in a NFS-shared directory. However, I found that the named
pipe thus created by SUN, actually works as a pipe on the NeXT.
Does anybody know what is the proper way to create a named pipe on NeXT?
--
Nobu Kawai, RIKEN
From: reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fax Cover Sheet Archiving?
Date: 11 May 1995 10:05:34 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@phakt.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3otg4u$6ir@phakt.usc.edu>
Summary: Is there a way to archive the contents of the fax cover sheet?
Keywords: fax cover sheet archiving
I would like to ideally have the contents of the fax cover sheet (including the main body text and any other fields) be included in the standard "fax sent successfully in xx minutes" mail message.
Any ideas or solutions?
Matthew
--
"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
From: dallase@nando.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3os0q1$fp6@parsifal.nando.net>
Control: cancel <3os0q1$fp6@parsifal.nando.net>
Date: 12 May 1995 01:43:34 GMT
Organization: News & Observer Public Access
Message-ID: <3oueg6$39e@parsifal.nando.net>
Article cancelled from NR/2
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TTYDSP and Yrrid
Date: 11 May 1995 16:21:44 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3otdio$j1a@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3oqb06INN5db@maz4.sma.ch>
In article <3oqb06INN5db@maz4.sma.ch> jmb@sma.ch (Jean-Marie Bettems)
writes:
>
> Hello !
>
> I am interested buying TTYDSP and I am trying to contact Yrrid without
success. Does
> anybody know if they are still in business? How to contact them?
>
> Subsidary question: do you have good/bad experience with TTYDSP
>
> Thanks for all information
> Jean-Marie Bettems
> jmb@sma.ch
All of the Yrrid products, including TTYDSP, are available through
OpenSource. Feel free to contact us for more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni)
Subject: Re: named pipe
Message-ID: <D8F6pB.226@prosoft.com>
Sender: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni)
Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc.
References: <D8ED2r.5Dt@postman.riken.go.jp>
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 15:22:22 GMT
Nobuyuki Kawai writes
> I found that you cannot create a named pipe using "mknod" on NeXT, and
> "file" command canot recognize a named pipe created by other machine (in
> my case SUN) in a NFS-shared directory. However, I found that the named
> pipe thus created by SUN, actually works as a pipe on the NeXT.
>
> Does anybody know what is the proper way to create a named pipe on NeXT?
> --
> Nobu Kawai, RIKEN
I went for many years without realizing named pipes were supported. Then
some kind soul (I have lost my record of who) posted the following (I
think I made some minor modification). I compiled it, named it mkfifo, and
put it in /usr/local/bin. You may want to enhance it a bit.
------------------------------------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>
#include <errno.h>
#include <stddef.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
typedef unsigned short mode_t;
void usage(char **argv)
{
printf("Usage: %s PATH\n",argv[0]);
exit(1);
}
int mkfifo (const char *path, mode_t mode)
{
return mknod (path, mode | S_IFIFO, 0);
}
void main(int argc, char **argv)
{
if (argc != 2) usage(argv);
mkfifo(argv[1],(mode_t) 0666);
}
--
Glen Biagioni
ProSoft Solutions Inc.
glen@prosoft.com (NeXTmail Welcome)
Bus:(604)324-3311 Fax:(604)324-9431
From: tuckerg@sirius.com (Gregg Tucker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FS Frame for NeXT
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 19:38:01 GMT
Organization: Sirius Connections
Message-ID: <3otp4l$573@sun.sirius.com>
I have for sale Frame for NeXT v3.0. I'm asking $300 but will
entertain offers.
nyacg@iglou.com
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Beginner: How to install a soft on NeXT
Date: 11 May 1995 20:48:31 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ott6v$7uo@cocoa.brown.edu>
References: <3on78b$dck@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Luc Krembel writes
> I'd like to know how to install some software I've downloaded with ftp
> on a NeXT Cube (Nextstep 2.1 and Motorola proc.).
> For the case it's Omniweb, but the question is general.
>
> I've uncompressed the file OmniWeb-1.0.app.tar.gz to obtain
> OmniWeb.app. When I click on the icon, a window is opened but
> the program doesn't run and give the message "process exited".
Well, actually the problem isn't general. OmniWeb has only been
compiled under NS 3.2, and it is _not_ backwards compatible to
NS 2.x. There is a very feature-poor thing called WWW.app (it's
actually the _original_ WWW browser, from when the Web was a
NeXT-only thing from CERN) on the archives, and while I don't
think even the 1.0 version of that will run under 2.x, I do know
that the 0.14 version will. Unfortunately, it points at a machine
at CERN that no longer exists for its startup screen, so unless
you go in and hack the binary to some legal machine with the same
number of bytes in its name, you lose.
Realistically, I think you'll have to stick with lynx (a command-line
Web browser that compiles without complaint under NS 2.1) until
you finally give in and upgrade your OS.
Giving in is no defeat. +---------------------------------+
Passing on is no retreat. | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 |
Selves are made to rise above. | burton@het.brown.edu |
You shall live in what you love. -- P. Hein +---------------------------------+
From: dwright@dehli.voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TCP/IP Help!
Date: 11 May 1995 22:19:39 GMT
Organization: DSC/Voicenet - BBS/Unix Shells/SLIP/NEWS - (215)443-7390
Message-ID: <3ou2hr$rlj@nova.voicenet.com>
I have a small TCP/IP network at home (3 machines) 1 of which is a NeXT.
The NeXT is running PNI SLIP
How can I get the NeXT to run over the SLIP connection OK with my assigned
IP address, but still be able to get to my other machines?
I know on Linux you can configure the slip port as one IP address, and
the Ethernet as another.....will that cause any problems on the NeXT?
Also, how do I do it? I'm not sure how much will get screwed if I start
playing with the Neconfig stuff...
Darren
From: jmcnamar@onramp.net (Jason L. McNamara)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TTYDSP and Yrrid
Date: 12 May 1995 03:03:05 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ouj59$a0@news.onramp.net>
References: <3otdio$j1a@natasha.rmii.com>
Daniel J. Gamble writes
> In article <3oqb06INN5db@maz4.sma.ch> jmb@sma.ch (Jean-Marie Bettems)
> writes:
> >
> > Hello !
> >
> > I am interested buying TTYDSP and I am trying to contact Yrrid without
> success. Does
> > anybody know if they are still in business? How to contact them?
> >
> > Subsidary question: do you have good/bad experience with TTYDSP
> >
>
> All of the Yrrid products, including TTYDSP, are available through
> OpenSource. Feel free to contact us for more information.
> --
Or contact Yrrid directly...
Niall Emmart
niall@yrrid.com
+1.919.968.7858
+1.919.968.7856 facsimile
Jason
--
Jason McNamara / jmcnamar@onramp.net (NeXTMail encouraged!)
Bifrost Workstations, Inc. / NEXTSTEP-optimized Intel systems
new phone: 713.952.9949 voice / 713.952.9934 facsimile
new addr: 10850 Richmond Ave., Suite 270 / Houston, TX 77042
http://www.stepwise.com/Resellers/Bifrost_Workstations.htmld/index.html
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 9 May 1995 20:03:14 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>
Elric Lak <73064.3715@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>Does anyone know anything about modelling/animation
>software for NeXT (on 040 25mhz NeXT hardware, say, with
>Dimension board populated with an i860)??
>I have experience with Alias and SoftImage, and
>procedural Renderman. Any suggestions???
For modelling we have either intuitiv3d, which has a really nice interface or
solidThinking which is more powerful, but at the price of ease of use.
Unfortunatly, as far as I know there is no useful animation tool (3d that is,
Animo rules for 2d) on NS--nothing like 3dstudio on dos. It sucks, this
platform could rule, and the 3d accident recontruction business is a lucrative
niche that could greatly benefit from NS, but noone seems to want to put out
such a product on NS.
It's too bad.
I have a friend really into this stuff who has a couple of NeXT machines (one
is a ND), he writes for 3dArtist and wanted to use his NeXT's...but the tools
just are not there. A modeler is just half of the puzzle, NS needs a good
animation package-ala 3dstudio
Later, John
From: charles@manta.cs.vt.edu (Charles M. Esterbrook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS 3.3 Printer Problem (help)
Date: 11 May 1995 20:11:10 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <3otr0u$76q@server.cs.vt.edu>
Keywords: nextstep hp laserjet problem
Hello,
We have an HP LaserJet 4M and an Intel Pentium running NEXTSTEP 3.3.
Our printer configuration is:
HP LaserJet 4 PostScript 600 DPI
Access: Public, Domain: /
Communications: Serial
Port: Serial A
Baud: 9600
Hardware handshaking: none
Printed jobs will show up in the Print Manager and the status of the
printer is reported as "Printing" but nothing happens. I've done the
usual things such as checking that the computer and printer
configurations match and that the cables are secure and that
everything is turned on. :)
Any insights and advice are appreciated in advance!
-Chuck
From: crendall@aol.com (Chris Rendall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BBS Software
Date: 11 May 1995 15:22:59 GMT
Organization: Athenet Internet Services
Message-ID: <3ota4j$saa@athena.athenet.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Is there any BBS software available for Next?
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: black@pyro.satanic-cult.com (Benjamin J. Black)
Subject: Re: TTYDSP and Yrrid
Message-ID: <D8G6KL.K3K@iglou.com>
Sender: news@iglou.com (News Administrator)
Organization: IgLou Internet Services
References: <3orgq4$pj@aura.cu.soltec.com>
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 04:17:09 GMT
In article <3orgq4$pj@aura.cu.soltec.com> jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com
(J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> jmb@sma.ch (Jean-Marie Bettems) writes:
> >I am interested buying TTYDSP and I am trying to contact Yrrid without
success. Does
> >anybody know if they are still in business? How to contact them?
>
> Try emailing info@yrrid.com; I believe there is a person at the
> other end to answer your questions there.
>
> >Subsidary question: do you have good/bad experience with TTYDSP
>
> I have nothing but good experiences with them. If all NS developers
> were as on top of their products as Yrrid is on top of theirs, NS
> would be a much better environment. Cables and TTYDSP are both
> excellent products, even when compared across environments and
> operating systems.
I second all of that. Yrrid is a fantastic bunch of people.
--
Ben
black@iglou.com
"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that
you do it." --Mahatma Gandhi
From: luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where can I find more games for XOX?
Date: 11 May 1995 23:31:46 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9505120429.AA07625@alleg.EDU>
All I have is XOXWARS, are there more and if so, where?
thanks!
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
[ Please note: my email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to buy 3.3 academic for NeXT?
Date: 12 May 1995 09:41:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3ovag8$csk@agate.berkeley.edu>
HI,
I'm wondering how to place order for 3.3 for the NeXT computers.
Also, will a copy of NEXTIME be included? What about those
EOF people are talking about?
Thanks for any pointers.
--
_________________________________________________________________________
Tyf@UC Berkeley : NeXTMAIL Preferred! : Email tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu
http://ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf
From: fabasi@unixg.ubc.ca (FFA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb for NeXT HELP!
Date: 12 May 1995 02:46:50 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3oui6q$ii8@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hello,
I DLed OmniWeb from this site and do not know how to uncompress it to get
it working. It has extensions .tar.gz
Also, I used my unix account and uncompressed it from a remote login
shell and then x-fered the files over to the NEXT using the terminal on
the next to telnet to my other accont. All files were OK, and I can view
the TIFs that come with OmniWeb (such as the start up screen) but the
main executable does not work. I am a newcomer to the NEXT.
HELP!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: andylee@netcom.com (Andy A. Lee)
Subject: Re: ** Emergency Startup Kit for NSFIP**
Message-ID: <andylee-1105950113390001@idtech.com>
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: Idealicus Technologies
References: <D8BErG.p7@softpac.com.au> <3oolbr$ojc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <jpanicoD8C062.6qL@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 08:13:39 GMT
In article <jpanicoD8C062.6qL@netcom.com>, jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
wrote:
> weintz steven cortelou (indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>
> : BTW, Bernoullis work very well under NS. We use them for sneakernet
> : between the Mac network and the NS network, in conjunction with a
> : DayDream box, as emergency boot disks, and as sneakernet-via-FedEx :-)
>
> : The 150MB drivesd can be had for under $400 now, and cartridges cost
> : around $80.
>
>
> Thought I'd also point out that the Iomega Zip drives also work quite well
> under NS. With Zip you can achieve near Bernoulli performance for a small
> fraction of the cost.
>
> Zip drive = $200-$170
> 100 Mb Zip disk = $17.
>
> Joe Panico
> jpanico@netcom.com
>
>
> : --
> : Steve Weintz * Art Director & Coding Manager * New Media Publishing, Inc.
> : (217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) * http://www.melvin.com/
> : indy@melvin.com * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820
> : -= Crass Announcement of a Commercial WWW Publication Goes Here =-
Please correct me if I'm wrong. But isn't the drive limited to being SCSI
ID #5 or #6? In other words, not bootable in most systems (my system only
boot from SCSI ID #0 or #1, or the floppy).
Andy Lee
andylee@netcom.com
andylee@cs.ucla.edu
From: jessehcl@jesse (Simon Chih-L Han)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MacEPS, Help!
Date: 12 May 1995 07:01:25 GMT
Organization: Seednet, Institute for Information Industry, Taiwan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ov145$8np@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Keywords: MacEPS
Dear NeXT Users,
Because I have a great deal of Mac eps files saved in CDR, I want to
import them under NeXTStep. However, None of the applications
(imageviewer, preview, wetpain, omniimage, superdraw(demo) and
create(demo) could do this. Does anyone have experience in importing Mac
Cliparts to NeXT?
Thank you for your assistance in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: MSWord Compatibility - was: Re: The History of the Word Processor / Compound Documents
Keywords: word processors, compound documents
References: <3oqgie$254@sia.sics.se>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:40:45 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May12.094045.7057@proximus.north.de>
* Restricted to comp.sys.next.software
In article <3oqgie$254@sia.sics.se>, Bjorn Backlund <bjorn@xanthus.se> wrote:
B> Hello Net, ReHi. > >[...] a word processor (OpenWrite). (Btw, both are
B> Microsoft-compatible (i.e [...] MSWord)).
Reading that, I will just comment.
Last weekend I tested both OpenWrite's and WriteUp's compatibility regarding
MSWord. I did this on severel large documents. Both are not 100% compatible,
annoying is that both do NOT keep the page layout. (Word 5.1 on a mac)
However OpenWrite did its job better than WriteUp. Still as I need perfect
MSWord compatibility, they are no alternative for me yet. Too bad. But maybe
in a later release.
Gerhard.
From: hlin@hntp2.hinet.net (Heng-Yi Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Print to Apple LW320; InterPrint Server (not client) experience
Date: 12 May 1995 07:17:55 GMT
Organization: HiNet
Message-ID: <3ov233$8gp@serv.hinet.net>
Hi there again,
I have a NeXT and PowerMac with an Apple LW Select 320. The LW320 is
connected to the PowerMac via LocalTalk cabling (no Ethernet
possible). The PowerMac and the NeXT are on thin ethernet. The
PowerMac prints to the LW320 just fine, as I run Apple's LaserWriter
Bridge software to route atalk packets. However, I would also like
the NeXT to print to the LW320, primarily to auto-print received faxed
on NXFax.
InterCon Sales tells me that the 'server' portion of their InterPrint
software does the trick. Has anyone experience setting up this
software? Does it work well? Any pointers to other possibilities are
welcome. Thanks!
--
Best regards,
Heng-Yi Lin
Fengyuan, Taiwan 420
hlin@hntp2.hinet.net
From: bjorn@xanthus.se (Bjorn Backlund)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex,comp.text.frame,comp.text.interleaf,comp.text.sgml,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Categorizing Document Systems/Word Processors
Date: 12 May 1995 13:10:57 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science
Message-ID: <3ovmp1$k4g@sia.sics.se>
Keywords: Word Processors, Document Systems
Hello "Net",
First I would like to thank all of you who responded on
my "history of the word processor" message.
As a followup on my previous message I would like to invite everybody
to help me categorize document systems.
Here is my current taxonomy. Feel free to drop me a message with
changes or extensions.
Best regards,
Bjorn Backlund
bjorn@xanthus.se
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Categories:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Combos Includes both text processing, spreadsheet
and sometimes flat-file database support.
Canonical example: Microsoft Works
Editors Plain text editors.
No real support for word processor
features such as fonts, headers and footers.
Canonical example: Emacs
Potential subcategories:
- line-based
- full-screen
- keyboard-driven
- mouse-driven
Word Processors A text editor with support for stuff
like fonts; text attributes such as underline
and overline; headers/footers and footnotes.
Canonical example: WordPerfect
Potential subcategories:
- non-WYSIWYG
- without Preview-capabilities
- with Preview-capabilities
- WYSIWYG
- only fonts/text props are displayed
- fonts, headers/footers are displayed
- even page breaks/page sizes are
displayed
- keyboard-driven
- mouse-driven
Desktop Publishing Designed to combine text and graphics (perhaps
with WYSIWYG preview?) : word processing with
illustrations. Handy for producing glossy color
or grey brochures, magazines, and newsletters
with graphic inserts.
Canonical example: FrameMaker
Potential subcategories: ?
Document Compilers Documents are written as text with embedded
typesetting instructions. Visual representation
is typically deferred --- so usually not WYSIWYG,
although some implementations come close. By
the same token, graphics are typically included
only indirectly.
Canonical example: TeX
Potential subcategories: ?
Markup Languages These describe documents' logical structure
rather than their visual appearance.
Canonical example: SGML
Potential subcategories: ?
Hypertext A single hypertext document is divided into parts
that may be oceans apart, yet accessible at the
click of a button. Although the underlying
format may be text, pictures, sound and movies
are easily included and viewed/heard/watched.
Cacnonical example: World Wide Web's HTML.
Potential subcategories: ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
For those of you who missed by earlier message:
Let me first introduce myself. My name is Bjorn Backlund and I am a
cofounder of a software company called Xanthus International. As a
software developer, Xanthus specializes in productivity software for the
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep platform. I have been the chief designer of both a
spreadsheet program (Questor) and a word processor (OpenWrite). (Btw, both
are Microsoft-compatible (i.e Excel and MSWord)).
I am currently working on a large document regarding a compound document
system (Open Object Embedding / OOE) I have designed for our products
(this system is to the functionality similar of the compound document
modules of OLE 2 and OpenDoc but much easier to adopt for app developers).
I intend to turn this document into a PhD thesis and that's why I write
this message to you. I am trying to compose a chapter about the history of
document systems in general and word processors in particular. Therefore I
would like your help to collect some data.
From: jim@roshi.miyazaki-mic.ac.jp (Jim Kieley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MapEdit,CCI Slide Show for NeXT?
Date: 12 May 1995 06:58:06 GMT
Organization: Miyazaki International College, Miyazaki Japan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ov0tu$847@kokusai.miyazaki-mic.ac.jp>
Keywords: html helpers,co-Xist
I am running NeXTstep 3.3 and I have co-Xist (full version). I am having
trouble compiling MapEdit for X which is a nice tool I hear for help in
making WWW imagemaps and CCI Slide Show which is utility that allows one
to present multiple URL's in a slide show. I would appreciate hearing
from anyone who has gotten these to work with a similar setup.
Jim Kieley
miyazaki Internal
jim@roshi.miyazaki-mic.ac.jp
From: Teele Horstra <teeleh@xs4all.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MS SQL Server & EOF - How to install
Date: 12 May 1995 11:44:51 GMT
Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses
Message-ID: <3ovhnj$pkg@news.xs4all.nl>
References: <3oquce$o5f@news.xs4all.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If have got it figured out. Works like clockwork.
From: jharding@next.tjhsst.edu (John M. Harding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniImage
Date: 11 May 1995 18:58:19 GMT
Organization: The Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3otmob$nan@iris.tjhsst.edu>
I recently installed OmniWeb, OmniImage, and OmniImageFilter. OmniWeb
works great, although I had to adjust the timeout for gifs for OmniWeb to
not give up on them. However, OmniImage has trouble opening almost
everything but TIFFs and EPS files. When I doubleclick on an image, it
sends it to OmniImage, which gives up and exits. By using inspector, it
shows OmniImage as the default application, but doesn't register as a
content inspector on .GIFs (does on an EPS of the same image, though)
Before, OmniImage would load and give me an error on console. Now, I can't
even get OmniImage to load at all, even with "open -a OmniImage". When I
tried that, I got
>open: can't open connection to OmniImage on local host.
on the terminal window and
>May 11 14:52:58 Workspace: Cannot launch program: 'OmniImage'
on console.
Any ideas/solutions?
Subject: Re: Looking for: FTP-soft with sricpt (DOS) for login/retrieving files fully auto
Date: Thu, 11 May 95 08:28:36 PDT
Message-ID: <000C5BCD.fc@iqinc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Gary_Affonso@iqinc.com (Gary Affonso)
Organization: ImagingQuest
<<I need FTP-software which runs with a script to login to FTP-servers and
to retrieve files from them fully automatically (non manuell).>>
I've been using a Perl package called mirror. I don't have the URL at the
moment, but a search for PERL should yield a web page that will lead you in the
right direction. You won't need anything in addition to the scripts (like a
modified FTP client) as they handle the entire FTP process from start to finish.
- Gary
From: maru@tau.bekkoame.or.jp (M. Maruyama)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: email from Mac to Next
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 07:24:18 +0900
Organization: Bekkoame, Japan
Message-ID: <maru-1305950724180001@ppp0_074.bekkoame.or.jp>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp
Does anyone know how to convert a binary file, sent by Macintosh-Eudra,
to a Next-readable file?
Thanks for your kind response in advance.
--
Masanori Maruyama
Yokohama, Japan
maru@taurus.bekkoame.or.jp
From: dallase@nando.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OS/2 HPFS ON NeXTSTEP 3.2 OR 3.2
Date: 12 May 1995 02:15:03 GMT
Organization: News & Observer Public Access
Message-ID: <3ougb7$5jj@parsifal.nando.net>
Is there a way to get NeXTSTEP 3.2 OR 3.3 TO READ an OS/2 HPFS partition?
I'm new to NeXTSTEP so if HPFS can be mounted I don't know how to do it.
Is there a program or patch for 3.2 or 3.3 that will let me read my HPFS partition?
Thanks
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dots3.5.5 - info please...
Date: 12 May 1995 19:06:24 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p0830$86@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <3olk8k$r3f@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <3or0bv$325@natasha.rmii.com>
Joni Ross (joni@opensource.com) wrote:
: In article <3olk8k$r3f@nntp.Stanford.EDU> alcorn@cmn6.Stanford.EDU
: (Michael Alcorn) writes:
: > Can anyone tell enlighten me on this application:
: > source?
: > which printers it supports?
: > is it a `free' or a commercial app?
: > are there any alternative applications that allow printing on (cheap)
: > non-ps printers?
: >
: >
: > Many thanks
: >
: > Michael Alcorn
: > alcorn@ccrma.stanford.edu
: Listed below are the printers DOTS supports:
[listed printers deleted]
Dots and JetPilot are commercial solutions.
There is also ghostscript (free, of course). Some months ago, i've compiled
it under 3.2 (Intel). Works fine.
Greetings from Thuringia,
Rainer
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Problem with SafetyNet
In-Reply-To: yzhao@netcom.com's message of Sat, 6 May 1995 19:24:57 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95May12135912@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <yzhaoD868LL.1qA@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 17:59:12 GMT
FYI - I recently helped Brian Cuthie from Systemix pinpoint a mounting
problem in SafetyNet. On certain Intel configurations, it would panic the
system. It was a concealed bug that didn't rear it's head until I used it
with an Adaptec 2940 and a Archive Python DAT.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant / Developer / Trainer
HTI
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: michael@clxgraph.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: email from Mac to Next
Date: 12 May 1995 23:19:55 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p0qer$6ci@nntp.crl.com>
References: <maru-1305950724180001@ppp0_074.bekkoame.or.jp>
Summary: Mac to Next email - Use opener
Keywords: uuencode Opener MIME
maru@tau.bekkoame.or.jp (M. Maruyama) wrote:
>Does anyone know how to convert a binary file, sent by
Macintosh-Eudra,
>to a Next-readable file?
>Thanks for your kind response in advance.
I've received a handful of .ps files from Macs using Eudora. It turned
out that they were actually uuencoded files (even though they had .ps
icons in my NeXT Mail window). I just copied them to the Workspace and
added .uu to the filename and let Opener crack them open for me. If
you don't have Opener (then you should get it) you can use uudecode in
a terminal window but it's been so long since I had to do this that I
forget the details. (Is it a good thing that the best NeXT programs
make us unix illiterate?)
Michael Rutchik
Senior Graphic Designer
The Clorox Company
michael@clxgraph.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
michael@mmgraph.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: clloyd@sierra.net (Charles C. Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Postscript Viewer
Date: 13 May 1995 18:12:18 GMT
Organization: Sierra-Net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p2sq2$t74@jobes.sierra.net>
Keywords: postscript preview hosed
Is there a freely available Postscript viewer that works better than
Preview.app? I find that most docs I get off the 'net cannot be read (well)
with Preview.app.
Charles.
---
Charles Lloyd clloyd@sierra.net
GiantLeap Software PO BOX 8734
(702) 831-4630 Incline Village, NV 89452
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Any listserv server software compiled for NeXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <D8J482.6Ms@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <D8HBMy.3rA@califhistsoc.org>
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 18:19:13 GMT
Robert MacKimmie (rm@califhistsoc.org) wrote:
: Need to host a listserv. Are apps compiled to do such on NeXT boxes?
You might consider using majordomo (ftp.greatcircle.com), which is much less
fancy, but also a lot less work. It requires you to install perl; but
you can get a .pkg for that on ftp.cs.orst.edu. Since it's perl, there's
no compiling to do to get it running.
Also somewhere is an app called ListserverHelper or something like that
that I found once, a long time ago. it was a graphical interface to
listserv configuration. You would still have to build listserv, to use
that, though...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: need WACOM 12x12 Pad Driver ..
Message-ID: <D8J4Ey.6xE@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3p21d2$c1k@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 18:23:22 GMT
philips@netrd.net.tw wrote:
: I am a WACOM 12x12 Pad user.Can I use my WACOM Pad in
: NextStep 3.2 (Intel 486DX2-66)? Where can I found the driver?
: I will appreciate that for your any help.
: Have a nice day.
I remember that Talus made a Wacom driver for graphics tablet(s), and
posted it (free) to ftp.cs.orst.edu. (probably in /pub/next/binaries/drivers)
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The eternal silence of these infinite|
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal|
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh ------------------:-o-----------------
From: michael@clxgraph.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MacEPS, Help!
Date: 12 May 1995 18:03:12 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p07t0$1j0@nntp.crl.com>
References: <3ov145$8np@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Summary: Use Tailor to open eps files
Keywords: Tailor, Mac.eps,
>Because I have a great deal of Mac eps files saved in CDR, I want to
>import them under NeXTStep. However, None of the applications
>(imageviewer, preview, wetpain, omniimage, superdraw(demo) and
>create(demo) could do this. Does anyone have experience in importing
Mac
>Cliparts to NeXT?
We preview, print, file, drag & drop and e-mail dozens of Mac .eps
files on our NeXT (inter)network every day. Managing these files is
generally easier and more reliable than on the Macs on which we create
them. I don't have clip-art files, most of our files are Adobe
Illustrator 5.5 files that have been saved with the .eps header. I'm
assuming your files have a .eps suffix (lowercase). If they don't and
you're reading them off a CD you'll have to move them to the NeXT
system first and rename them.
If this still doesn't work I've found that Tailor will open any true
.eps file I've thrown at it.
Feel free to e-mail any additional details to me since this is our
area of "NeXTpertise" :)
Michael Rutchik
Senior Graphic Designer
The Clorox Company
michael@clxgraph.com (NeXT Mail, MIME)
michael@mmgraph.com (NeXT Mail, MIME)
From: dale@pegasus (Dale Brisinda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.admin
Subject: Multiple Hosts w/ NeGeN Taylor-UUCP
Date: 13 May 1995 18:25:20 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p2tig$ece@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
I've installed the NeGeN Taylor-UUCP package on my system and it works
without problems -- nice package. However, I would like to have email
for a specific host sent directly to that host (i.e., call up
directly), rather than through the mailhost. I've already got the
proper entries in the 'sys' and 'call' files. I "just" need some way
of telling sendmail that when it sees a specific hostname (non-local),
to call the appropriate system in the 'sys' file, instead of the
mailhost.
Has anyone done something like this?
I've heard something about a mailer table that would allow this, but I
believe this would require specific support in the sendmail
configuration file distributed with NeGen Taylor UUCP. I'm not so
masochistic as to make anything more than minor changes to the
distributed sendmail configuration file...
Dale
---
Dale Brisinda Email: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Graduate Student NeXTmail: dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca
Department of Computer Science Tel: (403) 220-7687
University of Calgary Fax: (403) 281-5242
http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
PGP Public Key: `finger -l brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Postscript Viewer
Message-ID: <D8J67y.A57@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3p2sq2$t74@jobes.sierra.net>
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 19:02:22 GMT
Charles C. Lloyd (clloyd@sierra.net) wrote:
: Is there a freely available Postscript viewer that works better than
: Preview.app? I find that most docs I get off the 'net cannot be read (well)
: with Preview.app.
If you have X installed on your machine, you could use GhostView. But,
the quality in GhostView is not any better than Preview on a given
machine that has both, in my experience.
There's just lots of PostScript files on the 'Net that are only suitable
for printing, and not for viewing on the screen...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: kris@monolith (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OS/2 HPFS ON NeXTSTEP 3.2 OR 3.2
Date: 13 May 1995 19:15:13 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3p30g1$ie2@news.xmission.com>
References: <3ougb7$5jj@parsifal.nando.net>
dallase@nando.net wrote:
>Is there a way to get NeXTSTEP 3.2 OR 3.3 TO READ an OS/2 HPFS
partition?
>I'm new to NeXTSTEP so if HPFS can be mounted I don't know how to do
it.
>Is there a program or patch for 3.2 or 3.3 that will let me read my
HPFS partition?
> Thanks
Likewise for NTFS.
It'd be nice if NeXT could release some patch that would allow
mounting of non-DOS FS--as well as multiple partitions on the same
disk. Moving data around is problematic without them.
...................kris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: johnw@visix.com (John West)
Subject: I want my black icons back (3.3)
Sender: news@visix.com
Message-ID: <johnw-1205951432050001@twinpeaks.visix.com>
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 18:32:05 GMT
Organization: Visix Software Inc.
Could someone post the list of icons I need to replace to make all my
white icons black again? I had saved it, but now I can't find it.
Thanks,
-john
--
John West :: To call [Newt Gingrinch] a weasel is to defame an
johnw@visix.com:: entire class of proud indigenous American rodents.
Visix Software :: -Will Durst
Whatever I say is whatever I say, and not what Visix says.
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 13 May 95 16:11:10
Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of
Houston
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In-reply-to: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 9 May 1995 20:03:14 -0400
In article <blah>, kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> For modelling we have either intuitiv3d, which has a really nice interface or
> solidThinking which is more powerful, but at the price of ease of use.
> Unfortunatly, as far as I know there is no useful animation tool (3d that is,
> Animo rules for 2d) on NS--nothing like 3dstudio on dos. It sucks, this
> platform could rule, and 3d accident reconstruction business is a lucrative
> niche that could greatly benefit from NS, but noone seems to want to put out
> such a product on NS.
> It's too bad.
> I have a friend really into this stuff who has a couple of NeXT machines (one
> is a ND), he writes for 3dArtist and wanted to use his NeXT's...but the tools
> just are not there. A modeler is just half of the puzzle, NS needs a good
> animation package-ala 3dstudio
I wonder if NewTek could be convinced to port Lightwave to NS?
For those of you NeXTies who haven't seen or used it, Lightwave is a terrific
modelling/animation package originally developed for the Amiga, but now
available on Windows and Windows NT (where, despite Windoze, LW rocks)
and soon on other platforms. (My data is old -- what is the most recent
porting news? SGI/Sun?)
Ronn Harbin (rharbin@electrotex.com) uses Lightwave for animation in
professional video at McNee Productions. He runs LW on an insanely high
speed Alpha-based Windows NT box and produces truly amazing results --
in no time at all.
Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7
Reactive Systems / C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006
Consulting and Development (713) 942-7937 voice
NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@crash.org (NeXTmail)
--
Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7
Reactive Systems / C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006
Consulting and Development (713) 942-7937 voice
NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@crash.org (NeXTmail)
From: bshurt@u.washington.edu (Bill Shurtleff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, Articles 20175-20204RE: What is being done with NextStep?
Date: 13 May 1995 07:59:04 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3p1os8$irb@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
I have long admired the black Next computers both for their stylish looks and seemingly advanced OS capabilities. My question is: What is being done with NextStep today? I am into multimedia production and electronic music. I've always wanted to have a reason to plunge into Next, but info is scarce. If someone would like to enlighten me I would be greatfull.
From: stefan@pegasus.marques.co.za (Stefan Schoeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scanner driver
Date: 13 May 1995 22:45:08 GMT
Organization: Marques Systems
Message-ID: <3p3cpk$pm7@hermes.is.co.za>
Mime-Version: 1.0
I am looking for a scanner driver for windows 3.1 my scanner only has a
driver for windows 2.0 the scanner is a Lightscan 400p Greyscale.
made by Lightscan Tegnologies Taiwan.
E-Mail mee at fpdewet@pegasus.marques.co.za
thanks.
From: Min-Tzer Lay <eaeu899@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Postscript Viewer
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 18:19:29 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950513181638.16170G-100000-100000-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
References: <3p2sq2$t74@jobes.sierra.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3p2sq2$t74@jobes.sierra.net>
On 13 May 1995, Charles C. Lloyd wrote:
> I find that most docs I get off the 'net cannot be read (well)
> with Preview.app.
I had the same problem too! some of them even won't display at all! like
the one created from sun computers, etc. I like to know why as well :-)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT-Mail on other Platforms..???
Date: 13 May 1995 01:30:58 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p124i$p5u@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3o59a3$2v3@trumpet.uni-mannheim.de>
sappenz@pinfo201.informatik.uni-mannheim.de writes:
> Hy,
>
> does anybody know software for Solaris, Linux or other platforms
> than NeXT for reading NeXT-Mail ?
> I have the Problem of a mixed LAN of Suns(running Solaris) and
> black NeXTs. Some user enjoy the NeXT-Mail-standard, using
> Graphic and Rich-Text. But some only read mail on the Suns. This
> causes sometimes Problems, because they forget to send only ASCII
> to the Sun-User...
>
> So, if there a way to handle this (maybe with a Filterprogramm?!?),
> write me please.
One thing you can do is have your NeXT users use "plain mail" by
default, instead of NeXTmail. If they do that, then they'll have
to remember to turn *on* NeXTmail when they want it -- and they
aren't likely to forget to do that.
To do that, go into the "Info/Preferences..." of Mail.app, and
switch to the "Compose" panel (at least that's where it is in
NS-3.3's version of Mail.app). There's an option there to set
what format you want to have as the default.
Hmm. Let's see. The german would be "Info/Pr:aferenzen...",
select the panel named "Erstellen" and change the format to
"Nur Text". I can't actually read german, but I can set it
in Preferences.app to see what pops up... :-)
As for other platforms, once OpenStep is a part of Solaris, I
expect you'll see NeXT's Mail.app available for Solaris too.
I imagine you won't see that for at least six months, maybe
more like nine months.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP on NeXT ???
Date: 13 May 1995 01:54:18 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p13ga$pik@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3ono0t$74v@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it (pisati stefano) writes:
> Anyone know where can I find pgp 2.6.x compiled for NeXTStep 3.3
> (black hardware) ?
I can tell you were to look in the USA, but then I'd get into all
kinds of trouble I imagine (we're not supposed to export it, for
a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with me so don't blame
me for them). So, instead I'll suggest you check at ftp site:
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
in directory:
pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps
There's some things there about PGP. What's probably not
obvious is that the files:
CryptorBundle.1.2.NIH.b.tar.gz
and CryptorBundle.1.2.README
would be particularly good files to start with. I believe
those include the pgp binaries copied for three of the
NeXTSTEP architectures.
That will let you do PGP-encrypted NeXTmail. If you get that, you
might also find PGP.ts useful, which implement a few services by
using Scott Hess's TickleServices.app. Not sure where you could
get that file though. The PGP.ts file does not include anything
of PGP itself, but if you *have* PGP (such as getting it from
CryptorBundle) then these services are nice to have.
[People wondering what "PGP" is might want to check out Simson
Garfinkel's book "PGP: Pretty Good Privacy", recently published
by O'Reilly & Associates]
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: price on NextStep
Date: 13 May 1995 02:22:10 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p154i$q63@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3oj66q$rpm@acmey.gatech.edu>
gt4544c@prism.gatech.edu (Anoushirvan Shariat) writes:
> Can someone give a a price on NextStep and Developer kit for PC.
Retail price: NeXTSTEP User = about $800
NeXTSTEP Developer = about $5,000
> Is there any student discount on the package?
A "slight" discount:
Academic package, which includes NeXTSTEP User and Developer (and
right now also includes EOF 1.1) costs a grand total of about $300.
Yes, $300. About a 95% discount. There is the restriction that
you can't release any NeXTSTEP programs for profit unless you've
bought a retail copy of NeXTSTEP.
You'd have to get the academic package thru some bookstore or
computer store on your campus that has an account with NASCORP.
You can probably also get it from Object Technologies, if you
can fax them some proof that you qualify for it. I think their
number is 1-800-452-7608. Talk to Rob (or Ron?) Blessen. Some
name like that.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MSWord Compatibility - was: Re: The History of the Word Processor / Compound Documents
Date: 12 May 1995 19:26:56 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p0qs0$74t@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <1995May12.094045.7057@proximus.north.de>
Gerhard Moeller writes
>
> * Restricted to comp.sys.next.software
>
> In article <3oqgie$254@sia.sics.se>, Bjorn Backlund <bjorn@xanthus.se> wrote:
> B> Hello Net, ReHi. > >[...] a word processor (OpenWrite). (Btw, both are
> B> Microsoft-compatible (i.e [...] MSWord)).
>
> Reading that, I will just comment.
>
> Last weekend I tested both OpenWrite's and WriteUp's compatibility regarding
> MSWord. I did this on severel large documents. Both are not 100% compatible,
> annoying is that both do NOT keep the page layout. (Word 5.1 on a mac)
> However OpenWrite did its job better than WriteUp. Still as I need perfect
> MSWord compatibility, they are no alternative for me yet. Too bad. But maybe
> in a later release.
>
> Gerhard.
Gee, do you even get _perfect_ MS Word compatiblity between Mac/PC
Word? Or for that matter two versions of word on either platform? :-)
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
http://www.stepwise.com/ (Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server)
From: adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew P Drake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is a good place to buy.....
Date: 14 May 1995 02:16:46 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3p3p6e$s3e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Does anyone know of a good place to buy the academic version of NS3.3 for
black hardware? I've checked my local university bookstore, but they don't list
it. Should I call NeXT or is there a VAR who will sell at educational discount?
Thanks for the referal, and if someone has NS3.3 used, let me know.
-Andrew
From: David Hempling <David.Hempling@latgroup.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Musical score editors for NeXTStep?
Date: 12 May 1995 21:21:08 GMT
Organization: The Internet Connection, Scotts Valley, CA. 408-438-8989
Message-ID: <3p0jg4$ltg@kane.ico.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have a 68040 NeXT cube currently running NeXTStep 2.1 which I'd like
to use for composing and arranging music. I've heard about
NoteAbility from CiUSA and have tried to get information about
it but I found CiUSA's phone number and email address are both out
of service.
Can anyone suggest software for NeXT to do music editing with a Finale
like tool? I'm looking for tools to edit/print musical notation and
produce MIDI data from the staffed music.
I am willing to upgrade to NeXTStep 3.2 to run these tools.
Thanks for any help,
david.hempling@latgroup.com
From: BUBF13A@prodigy.com (Janice Brackens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software for Sale
Date: 13 May 1995 04:12:43 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p1bjr$hg8@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>
SUBJECT: Shareware Programs for Sale
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The $4.00 is for Shipping & Handling.
The Software includes GAMES, TUTORIAL, WORD PROCESSING, UTILITIES,
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Look forward to hear from you. Have a nice day!
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dots3.5.5 - info please...
Date: 14 May 1995 11:40:45 GMT
Organization: Nil
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p4q7u$clc@sparc.eunet.si>
References: <3olk8k$r3f@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3olk8k$r3f@nntp.Stanford.EDU> alcorn@cmn6.Stanford.EDU
(Michael Alcorn) writes:
> Can anyone tell enlighten me on this application:
> source?
> which printers it supports?
> is it a `free' or a commercial app?
Its a very commercial app. The price depends on which printer do you have.
Contact the company at dots@heinz.com.
Jonas.
From: michael@mvhome (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: email from Mac to Next
Date: 14 May 1995 14:52:04 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com>
References: <maru-1305950724180001@ppp0_074.bekkoame.or.jp>
I am very interested in information about this as well...I am unsure
as to what MIME capability will provide but what I want is to be able
to *some* extent be able to mail between my NEXTSTEP - Windows - and
Mac boxes with moderate "attatchment" capabilities....
What software on those other platforms is available to do so, if any?
Thanks for patience with a dumb question.
michael@hesta.com
From: michael@mvhome (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax Cover Sheet Archiving? PLEASE!!!
Date: 14 May 1995 14:54:22 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3p55iu$nnt@corporate.hesta.com>
References: <3otg4u$6ir@phakt.usc.edu>
reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) wrote:
>I would like to ideally have the contents of the fax cover sheet
(including the main body text and any other fields) be included in the
standard "fax sent successfully in xx minutes" mail message.
>Any ideas or solutions?
>Matthew
>--
>"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
This would be a truly USEFUL thing to have!
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: email from Mac to Next
Date: 14 May 1995 17:49:27 +0100
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1995May14.164003.19202@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com>
In article <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com> michael@mvhome (Michael
Verruto) writes:
> I am very interested in information about this as well...I am unsure
> as to what MIME capability will provide but what I want is to be able
> to *some* extent be able to mail between my NEXTSTEP - Windows - and
> Mac boxes with moderate "attatchment" capabilities....
>
> What software on those other platforms is available to do so, if any?
There are various MIME compliant mail readers for both these platforms.
If you can use Mail.app from 3.3, then this is the way to go.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Subject: Any listserv server software compiled for NeXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <D8HBMy.3rA@califhistsoc.org>
Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 19:04:10 GMT
Need to host a listserv. Are apps compiled to do such on NeXT boxes?
Thanks,
Robert MacKimmie
California Historical Society, San Francisco
RM@califhistsoc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mad@wozzeck.esm.rochester.edu (Michael DeMurga)
Subject: Pascal compiler for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1995May13.005432.20186@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center
Date: Sat, 13 May 95 00:54:32 GMT
Hi--
I'd like to know if anyone knows of a Pascal compiler that will
run on NeXTSTEP 3.3 for either black/white hardware. I've seen
p2c, but I really need a compiler (students will be using it to
learn how to program in Pascal, so they'll need to have Pascal
errors returned to them, not C errors...). Didn't there used
to be a Pascal compiler some years ago?
Thanks for any info.
--Michael DeMurga
Eastman Computer Music Center
From: "Sean M. Willson" <premise@engin.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multiple fax modem question ...
Date: 14 May 1995 22:26:03 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <3p601r$1ad@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have a question to pose to the NeXT community. I am working on an
application that will send a fax to one of many (say 17 differant)
fax modems. The question I have is this, can NeXTStep handle this
using the print objects faxing methods, and if so, do all of the fax
modems have to be on the same machine? Can anyone who has worked with
multiple fax modems provide a possible path toward a solution or
give me a yes or no if it can be done?
I looked in Next Answers and the only thing I found was a reference
to the faxes being stored in a directory under the fax modems name.
Are their any other places I could do some searching on this topic?
Sean Willson
_________________________________________________________________________
| Sean M. Willson "Chance favors a prepared mind..." |
| University of Michigan College of Engineering |
| ASCII: premise@umich.edu NeXTMail: premise@pluto.eecs.umich.edu |
| http://www.engin.umich.edu/~premise/ WWW Page (NeXT Stuff) |
| NeXT Programmer (Artist) in training! |
|_______________________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: SLIP-Software wanted ...
Message-ID: <1995May15.210940.22998@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3p7rtj$8sb@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 21:09:40 GMT
In article <3p7rtj$8sb@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Torsten Joerg
<joerg@sn-bota-1.bota.uni-bonn.de> writes:
>
> Does anybody have a nice hint what SLIP-Software I can use?
>
> I'm running NeXTSTEP V3.3 on an Intel-machine.
>
> I stumbled over DialUp-IP from TransSys to find out it works only on
m68.
> The README-File for TransSys-PNI-1.13 kept me from trying this software
> (they beleive it *doesn't* work on 3.3 ...)
It does work on 3.3.
You might also be interested in the PPP 2.2 available from ftp.duq.edu.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: joni@opensource.com (Joni Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet Access software?
Date: 15 May 1995 22:33:01 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3p8kqt$d6k@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3p6abh$9bv@parsifal.nando.net>
In article <3p6abh$9bv@parsifal.nando.net> dallase@nando.net writes:
> What is a good set of Internet Access programs and where can I get them?
> I'd like to have a News Group Reader, Gopher browser, WWW Browser, Mail
program and FTP access program.
>
> Thanks In Advance.
Morning Star PPP is an application that you might be looking for. Morning
Star PPP allows a TCP/IP LAN to become a seamless extension of a wide area
network, such as the Internet. The software can also be used to connect
different computer sites to each other, providing the same functionality
as Ethernet, but over a dialup or dedicated line.
Please call for more information and pricing.
Joni Jo Ross
Account Executive
OpenSource, Inc.
1-800-TRY-OPEN
joni@opensource.com
From: rworne@primenet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wordperfect upgrades from 1.0?
Date: 16 May 1995 02:01:57 GMT
Organization: Primenet
Message-ID: <3p912m$fet@news.primenet.com>
I've aquired a shrinkwrapped version of WP 1.0 (not 1.0.1) for my Cube and
It's pretty damn buggy. At least when it crashes, it doesn't take the whole
system with it.
Anyway, where can I either:
1. Patch this puppy to 1.0.1
2. Get the latest version (above)
Things are getting a bit confusing with Novell aquiring Wordperfect and all.
(Include phone # for WP/Novell if you got it, my docs don't include it).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: aalto@nmt.edu (Eugene Aalto)
Subject: Re: Can NS3.3 be installed on an '030 cube?
Message-ID: <1995May16.014154.15919@nmt.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Organization: New Mexico Tech
References: <3g30u8$h4s@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <simsong-2801951803560001@mac.pleasant.cambridge.ma.us>
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 01:41:54 GMT
Simson L. Garfinkel (simsong@pleasant.cambridge.ma.us) wrote:
: In article <3g30u8$h4s@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon
: Haveman) wrote:
: > Basically, can an old cube hurdle all the way up the
: > upgrade path? If not, what is the last version of the
: > OS that will work?
: >
: Sure thing, but I wouldn't. Basically, you don't really get acceptable
: performance on an '030 cube with anything over NeXTSTEP 2.0. That's
: becuase on '040 hardware you want to save memory and spend cycles for
: optimal performance, whereas with an '030 system you want to save cycles
: and spend memory.
Well I have been using an '030 board as the file server for my '040
and some pc's with only 12 meg of memory, and NS 3.0, and it works fine.
Of course, not using workspace manager probably helps alot. I use it
text only.
Also, acceptable performance is not the same for everyone.
The load does go up to about 4 if I start miocrosoft windows
(but only for a moment). My '040 seems to be more well behaved, and starting
apps on it rarely makes the load on the '030 go above 2.
If you want to run your '030 interactively with workspace manager, etc
, I would recomend at least 16mb (can '030's use 4x9 simms?) and be
prepared for it to not be all that fast. Memory is gennerally more important
than processor speed for multitasking, and a fast local hard drive will make
a big difference.
As far as I understand, the only difference between the '040 and '030 machines
is the proccessor (at least for mono 25mhz). You get the same 8 channel DMA,
the same 25mhz 56001, and from what I hear, even SCSI and ethernet perforamnce
is the same.
I am currently working on setting up a system that consists of a cube
with one '040 board with the display and hard drive connected (with its own
power supply) and 3 '030 boards, that will be available to run
various tasks as diskless headless workstations. I will bet that the three
'030's will be more powerful together than the single '040, even without
local drives.
-Eugene Aalto
aalto@nmt.edu
From: engp4314@leonis.nus.sg (Niu Yimin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tar file decoder for dos
Date: 16 May 1995 03:29:35 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
Message-ID: <3p966v$ct@nuscc.nus.sg>
: I am looking for a tar file decoder for dos, anyone knows?
: your response will be highly appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: zet@rupert.franken.de (Juergen Zeller)
Subject: Re: mpeg audio player? (.map files)
Message-ID: <D8n261.JqA@rupert.franken.de>
Sender: zet@rupert.franken.de (Juergen Zeller)
Organization: private
References: <3p6186$eh2@news.next.com>
Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 21:25:12 GMT
In article <3p6186$eh2@news.next.com> grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) writes:
> Is there an mpeg audio player for NEXTSTEP? I just grabed
> GISO 3.3, but it doesn't seem to handle them.
Try ftp://fhginfo.fhg.de/pub/layer3/, there is also a FAQ in it.
Bye,
J rgen
--
J"urgen Zeller, zeller@rupert.franken.de,
http://www.franken.de/users/rupert/zeller
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From: rosehnal@medinf.mu-luebeck.de (Hans Rosehnal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help for a keyboard driver
Date: 16 May 1995 15:07:25 +0200
Organization: Medizinische Universitaet zu Luebeck
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pa82d$5cu@gwsun.medinf.mu-luebeck.de>
Is there anyone who can help me.
I'm searching for my Intel NS a Microsoft Naturale Keyboard driver.
Any help is appreciated.
Hans
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
From: Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Message-ID: <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 12:50:44 GMT
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu>
Organization: University College London
> I wonder if NewTek could be convinced to port Lightwave to NS?
>
> For those of you NeXTies who haven't seen or used it, Lightwave is a terrific
> modelling/animation package originally developed for the Amiga, but now
> available on Windows and Windows NT (where, despite Windoze, LW rocks)
> and soon on other platforms. (My data is old -- what is the most recent
> porting news? SGI/Sun?)
>
> Ronn Harbin (rharbin@electrotex.com) uses Lightwave for animation in
> professional video at McNee Productions. He runs LW on an insanely high
> speed Alpha-based Windows NT box and produces truly amazing results --
> in no time at all.
>
> Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7
> Reactive Systems / C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006
> Consulting and Development (713) 942-7937 voice
> NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@crash.org (NeXTmail)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7
> Reactive Systems / C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006
> Consulting and Development (713) 942-7937 voice
> NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@crash.org (NeXTmail)
>
Well, it seems so that there isn't much option on the NeXT platform (when
it comes to anim work)... I must say, the NeXT platform is superb.
I have used Mac, PC (Win&win & OS2), SGI and RS6000s, and I am still
very much impressed by the NeXT's OS.
Sadly, there just isn't any 'SoftImage'/'LightWave'-lookalike...
LightWave has migrated from Amigas to WinNT & SGI, and even Real3D
has got a SGI engine... Well, looks like I'm going to have to take up the
SGI option again...(somebody ought to tell SGI IRIX sucks)
Surely, someone out there must be hacking out a good 3D anim programme??
Elric
From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tar file decoder for dos
Date: 16 May 95 23:03:41 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Message-ID: <1995May16.230341@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <3p966v$ct@nuscc.nus.sg>
In article <3p966v$ct@nuscc.nus.sg>, engp4314@leonis.nus.sg (Niu Yimin) writes:
> : I am looking for a tar file decoder for dos, anyone knows?
> : your response will be highly appreciated.
I found mine somewhere on Simtel. Nothing special, it just works. The only
funny (but for me no problem) thing with it is that when I wanted to try
it out in the dos-box of NT, it crashed. Talking about compatibility ;-).
Willem
W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Musical score editors for NeXTStep?
Date: 16 May 1995 15:41:39 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3pah3j$k5h@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3p0jg4$ltg@kane.ico.net>
In article <3p0jg4$ltg@kane.ico.net> David Hempling
<David.Hempling@latgroup.com> writes:
>
> I have a 68040 NeXT cube currently running NeXTStep 2.1 which I'd like
> to use for composing and arranging music. I've heard about
> NoteAbility from CiUSA and have tried to get information about
> it but I found CiUSA's phone number and email address are both out
> of service.
>
> Can anyone suggest software for NeXT to do music editing with a Finale
> like tool? I'm looking for tools to edit/print musical notation and
> produce MIDI data from the staffed music.
>
> I am willing to upgrade to NeXTStep 3.2 to run these tools.
>
> Thanks for any help,
> david.hempling@latgroup.com
>
Hang tight, Ciusa's gone, but we'll be offering Noteability soon. Drop me
a reminder, I'll let you know when it's available.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence Softwares
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Date: 16 May 1995 18:30:02 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3paqva$2e5@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <D8oE3B.2GM@aptime.fdn.org>
chris@aptime.fdn.org wrote:
/ I'd like to know if there is any rule-based Artificial
/ Intelligence Software that can be bundled in an application. Modification
/ of rules without recompilation should be possible.
There is a library for neural networks. Have a look at the WWW page at
http://www.crec.mipt.ru/~zander/nLib.html
What is nLib?
nLib is about 100K of raw Ojective-C code that could be Neural
Networks Object Library.
What does this library give(or should give)?
1. Facile rapid creation of code to explore various network topologies
and training strategies.
2. Uniform look on different network topologies as well as on what is
neuron in neural network and what is network itself.
3. Reusability of code and other stuff that was promised by OOP. I hope
this library is better then Ralph Zazula public domain
NeuralNetworks.tar.Z as far as OOP concerns.
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu
GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
From: clloyd@sierra.net (Charles C. Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Postscript Viewer
Date: 16 May 1995 17:02:33 GMT
Organization: Sierra-Net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3palr9$5v8@jobes.sierra.net>
References: <3p2sq2$t74@jobes.sierra.net>
Charles C. Lloyd writes
>
>Is there a freely available Postscript viewer that works better than
>Preview.app? I find that most docs I get off the 'net cannot be read (well)
>with Preview.app.
>
Under the rubric of "RTFM", I have been informed that the Preview.app open
panel has a "Use Simple Mode" option which allows most of these ill-behaving
postscript docs to be viewed (but not zoomed).
Charles.
---
Charles Lloyd clloyd@sierra.net
GiantLeap Software PO BOX 8734
(702) 831-4630 Incline Village, NV 89452
From: lescomp@ix.netcom.com (Mark LeScoezec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mach64 Drivers
Date: 16 May 1995 19:02:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pasri$lo2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
What are people running the ATI Mach64 video card with until NeXT fixes
their driver? When I run the NeXT-supplied driver the screen is so
dark that I can just see the icons. I am currently running the drivers
from OSD International, but the highest resolution is 800X600. Any
help is greatly appreciated.
regards
Mark LeScoezec
lescomp@ix.netcom.com
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Soundblaster driver
Date: 16 May 1995 19:04:26 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pasvq$2fv@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <3p3p6e$s3e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <3p7l5k$laf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Kurniawan Darmawangsa (kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
/ Hi Is there anybody know what is the latest version of the soundblaster
/ 16 driver, stored in next FTP ?
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1810.htmld/1810.html:
NEXTSTEP FOR INTEL PROCESSORS RELEASE 3.3
SOUND DRIVER OVERVIEW
Driver: Sound Blaster 16
Current Availability: Released
Driver Location (if not on CDROM): NeXTanswer #1855
Driver Overview: NeXTanswer #1810
Last Update: April 18 1995
--
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GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: s9udzw@harpoon (Damien Weiss)
Subject: Re: ** Emergency Startup Kit for NSFIP**
Message-ID: <1995May16.174846.19270@almserv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: Fannie Mae
References: <jpanicoD8Eo91.10o@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 17:48:46 GMT
Joe Panico writes
>
> : Please correct me if I'm wrong. But isn't the drive limited to being SCSI
> : ID #5 or #6? In other words, not bootable in most systems (my system only
> : boot from SCSI ID #0 or #1, or the floppy).
>
> Oops, that's right. I guess you can't boot from it. Sorry for the
> misunderstanding.
Why not just have a boot floppy that points to an external SCSI drive
(under /usr/Devices/System.config, kernel flags=rootdev=sd0a).
Damien
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I need a FAT Binary Splitter! Where?
Date: 15 May 1995 21:41:03 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3p8e8v$6v@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <3onu2h$d78@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Andrew P Drake (adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: The subject says it all - I'm looking for an app to strip only the Motorla
: segment out of a FAT binary. Where can I find one?
: Thanks!
: -Andrew
You have this app on your computer, really! Oops, forgot the name :-(( and
my Linux doesn't know anything about fat-binaries. So scan the manpages with
Librarian for architecture, fat and so on.
Hope that helps,
Rainer
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From: dwright@dehli.voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
Message-ID: <dwright.24.003F3AFF@dehli.voicenet.com>
Date: 16 May 95 04:47:15 GMT
References: <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Organization: D & G Micro
In article <1995Apr19.131313.9984@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes:
>From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)>Subject: Totally selfish software pricing suggestion
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:13:13 GMT
>I notice a lot of companies, including NeXT, offer student pricing on
>their software, and I think that is great. The problem is the two-tier
>aspect of most pricing. I propose a third tier.
>I am not a student and I am not a "commercial site." I am just an
>individual who happened to like NEXTSTEP enough to be willing to buy it.
>Now I am faced with the costs of buying/upgrading software packages at
>commercial rates. I can't afford it. (Yea, I know -- Too Bad!)
>If there is any interest out there in keeping people like me using
>NEXTSTEP and related products, how about providing a break point between
>student and commercial where we can participate without going broke?
>--
>Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
>rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
>There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
>please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
>the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
The problem with this whole idea is that youe are trying to support a company
who will not support YOU. Their $2000 price tag is absolutely ridiculous
compared to Windows NT or even Solaris / Unixware. And their $299 price tag
from 3.2 to 3.3 is should have been a courtesy patch given out to users.
Although I am an owner of a Full ND system, I hate to say it but I have really
lost respect for NeXT as a company. If they don't get off their high horses
soon and show the public that NeXTStep is the greatest OS in the world, they
are going to have a great OS, and only die hard techies like us working on it.
My $0.02
Darren
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet Access software?
Date: 16 May 1995 23:26:39 +0100
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1995May16.202612.27046@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <3p8kqt$d6k@natasha.rmii.com>
In article <3p8kqt$d6k@natasha.rmii.com> joni@opensource.com (Joni Ross)
writes:
> In article <3p6abh$9bv@parsifal.nando.net> dallase@nando.net writes:
> > What is a good set of Internet Access programs and where can I get
them?
> > I'd like to have a News Group Reader, Gopher browser, WWW Browser,
Mail
> program and FTP access program.
News: either NewsGrazer (free) or Eloquent (commercial).
Gopher: Gopher.app, on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
WWW: any of OmniWeb (first copy free), SpiderWoman, or Netsurfer. From
various locations.
Mail: Mail.app, Eloquent, or perhaps you mean a POP mailbox handler, like
PopOver?
FTP: any of Archie.app, GatorFTP, RBrowser, or YFtp. Most of thee are on
ftp.cs.orst.edu.
[irrelevant advertising for wrong product deleted]
>
> Joni Jo Ross
> Account Executive
> OpenSource, Inc.
> 1-800-TRY-OPEN
> joni@opensource.com
This may be unfair of me, but I believe that responses by commercial
organisations intended to drum up business should be made by mail in the
vast majority of cases.
The relevancy of all the followups that come from OpenSource appears quite
low, often suggesting a product that is either inappropriate, or
indicating a lack of familiarity with the post to which they are replying.
Disclaimer: I get a significant amount of business from people whose posts
I reply to :-).
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet Access software?
Date: 17 May 1995 03:45:57 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3pbrhl$8t5@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3p6abh$9bv@parsifal.nando.net>
dallase@nando.net wrote:
: What is a good set of Internet Access programs and where can I get them?
: I'd like to have a News Group Reader, Gopher browser, WWW Browser, Mail program and FTP access program.
I would recommend one of the WWW Browsers (OmniWeb, SpiderWoman, or NetSurfer)
for all the tasks: WWW, FTP, Gopher, maybe even NEWS... (just because it can).
And heck, use Mail.app that is bundled with NS for e-mail.
--
Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu
Research Associate Voice: (402)472-9747
Department of Mathematics and Statistics FAX: (402)472-8466
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 16 May 1995 13:55:52 -0500
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Message-ID: <3pasfo$jsg@cobber.cord.edu>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>,
Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>Well, it seems so that there isn't much option on the NeXT platform (when
>it comes to anim work)... I must say, the NeXT platform is superb.
>I have used Mac, PC (Win&win & OS2), SGI and RS6000s, and I am still
>very much impressed by the NeXT's OS.
>
>Sadly, there just isn't any 'SoftImage'/'LightWave'-lookalike...
>LightWave has migrated from Amigas to WinNT & SGI, and even Real3D
>has got a SGI engine... Well, looks like I'm going to have to take up the
>SGI option again...(somebody ought to tell SGI IRIX sucks)
>
>
>Surely, someone out there must be hacking out a good 3D anim programme??
>Elric
I'm only aware of one application that can do animation.
As far as modelers go there were a few good ones out there that implement the
Renderman Interface.
There was nPoint with FrontFace before NEXTSTEP came bundled with Pixar's
Renderman. nPoint sadly went out of business.
Intuitiv's intuitiv'3D has the most incredible interface I have ever seen.
I'm hoping that upgrades are forthcoming (PLEEZ!). It was very disappointing
that it didn't write RIBs.
There is Stone Design's recently announced 3D Reality 2.0.
For animation, there is Gestel Italia's solidThinking Modeler/Animator 2.1
which does standard keyframe animation. Last time I talked to them
(around Dec) they were planning on adding Inverse Kinematics, particle
systems, freeform deformations etc. I'm extremely fond of solidThinking.
There were talks of adding support for Larry Gritz's BMRT renderer (though
I believe this might be bundled with 3D Reality 2.0 too). I'm awaiting a
fix in the sweep tool.
Hopefully, we'll be seeing a richer feature sets in these applications to
approach those of programs like Lightwave3D, Real3D, Alias PowerAnimator :)
--
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From: indy@griffin.melvin.com (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet Access software?
Date: 17 May 1995 01:45:15 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pbkfb$akv@aura.cu.soltec.com>
References: <1995May16.202612.27046@seer.demon.co.uk>
In article <1995May16.202612.27046@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch
<Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> writes:
[...]
> This may be unfair of me, but I believe that responses by commercial
> organisations intended to drum up business should be made by mail in the
> vast majority of cases.
>
> The relevancy of all the followups that come from OpenSource appears
quite
> low, often suggesting a product that is either inappropriate, or
> indicating a lack of familiarity with the post to which they are
replying.
>
> Disclaimer: I get a significant amount of business from people whose
posts
> I reply to :-).
I must say I don't find that to be the case; products mentioned by
OpenSource personnel are in most cases those I would suggest as solutions
to the queries.
While I agree that the most circumspect approach would be to retire sales
discussions completely to private correspondence, IMHO the OS posts are
models of low-key commercial discourse. Usenet readers see only a brief
note about a product they sell that might be a solution to a given
problem, and an invitiation to contact the poster for further info.
This goes against the purity of Usenet discourse, true, but consider the
audience; we NEXTSTEPpers have few enough channels of info re: ISV apps
and the pulse of the third-party market. Frequent postings by a healthy
supplier go a long way towards reassuring us of the continued availability
of our preferred tools.
My $0.02
[I do not work for OpenSource but am a very satisfied customer.
--
Steve Weintz * Art Director & Coding Manager * New Media Publishing,
Inc.
(217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) * http://www.melvin.com/
indy@melvin.com * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL
61820
-= Crass Announcement of a Commercial WWW Publication Goes Here =-
From: Lucas Lay <eaeu899@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ppp compatible with slip?
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 18:58:47 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950516185653.28287B-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
does any body know whether i could use ppp to connect to a server that
uses slip? all the docs i've read said that ppp is a better protocol than
slip, but that doesn't mean it's compatible with slip... or does it?
thanx in advance.
From: cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FTP SITE: eduStep ftp site for commercial apps
Date: 17 May 1995 14:59:31 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3pd30j$6gm@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
In comp.sys.next.announce David A. Coyle wrote:
> European and US NextStep users have noticed that internet connections
> to their favorite North American ftp sites have been awfully slow
> lately. In addition to this, the "peanuts" archive in Munich has
> dropped commercial apps due to space restrictions. The result is
> that there is no longer timely or reliable electronic distribution
> of commercial NextStep packages to Europe.
>
The commercial part of peanuts was unavailable only for a few weeks. We
have more than enough place for all free and commercial apps again.
All commercial apps on Peanuts are also regularly published on the (double
CD-ROM) Peanuts Archive Discs (PAD). The FTP archive now contains
the newly sorted commercial part which is on volume 1 of the PADs.
Regards
cb
--
[ Christian Baur,Muenchen-Germany | You can't sink a RAINBOW, ]
[ cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de(NeXTmail) | but you can sink the EARTH. ]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Message-ID: <1995May17.032745.22061@media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk> <3pasfo$jsg@cobber.cord.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 03:27:45 GMT
In article <3pasfo$jsg@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) writes:
>>In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>,
>>Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Well, it seems so that there isn't much option on the NeXT platform (when
>>>it comes to anim work)... I must say, the NeXT platform is superb.
>>>I have used Mac, PC (Win&win & OS2), SGI and RS6000s, and I am still
>>>very much impressed by the NeXT's OS.
>>>
>>>Sadly, there just isn't any 'SoftImage'/'LightWave'-lookalike...
>>>LightWave has migrated from Amigas to WinNT & SGI, and even Real3D
>>>has got a SGI engine... Well, looks like I'm going to have to take up the
>>>SGI option again...(somebody ought to tell SGI IRIX sucks)
>>>
>>>
>>>Surely, someone out there must be hacking out a good 3D anim programme??
>>>Elric
>>
<stuff deleted>
>>
>>For animation, there is Gestel Italia's solidThinking Modeler/Animator 2.1
>>which does standard keyframe animation. Last time I talked to them
>>(around Dec) they were planning on adding Inverse Kinematics, particle
>>systems, freeform deformations etc. I'm extremely fond of solidThinking.
>>There were talks of adding support for Larry Gritz's BMRT renderer (though
>>I believe this might be bundled with 3D Reality 2.0 too). I'm awaiting a
>>fix in the sweep tool.
>>
Well, if you're a programmer, you might want to take a look at WavesWorld,
which can do all sorts of animation. The latest version is 2.3, which
In the next (very minor) release (out in a day or two), it will be a lot
easier to do stuff; I realized with a simple additional command, I could
make it much easier to do the kind of stuff most people want to use this
stuff for (as opposed to what I built it for...). You can get the latest
release via my home page (see below).
btw, it's trivial to integrate solidThinking with WavesWorld; most of
my most interesting stuff has been done by modeling in either solidThinking
or Alias PowerAnimator, exporting RIB, and bringing it into WavesWorld
and animating it.
I also have a lot of support built in for Larry's awesome BMRT stuff.
Also, you get all the source code for my stuff, and since it's built
as a set of IB palettes, it's trivial to integrate my stuff into your
own custom apps.
please to enjoy. :-)
--
--> Michael B. Johnson. Ph.D. -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/
--> MIT Media Lab, Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G, Cambridge, MA 02139
From: xli@delphi.umd.edu (XiaoJun Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to attach a service?
Date: 16 May 1995 14:08:28 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <3pabks$q3k@hecate.umd.edu>
Forgive me if this is a next101 question---I am new to NeXT and can
find FAQ at nowhere...
How can I attach an application to a service menu?
Currently, I am trying to attach a third party app. onto my
workspace menu under "services". I don't know how to do it.
Any help?
thanks,
Yibing Wu
From: dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AppKit server
Date: 17 May 1995 09:50:21 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3pcgst$j0f@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Hello:
I'm having all sorts of difficulty getting Concurrence to work
properly. When it fires up, it says
Links
Unable to contact AppKit server
[ OK ]
And then all the images I had dragged into the document are gone.
What is the AppKit server, and how do I get it running again?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
Subject: ExpressOCR who makes it?
Message-ID: <D8pw79.3LL@softpac.com.au>
Sender: dave@softpac.com.au (Dave Thomas)
Organization: Softpac Pty. Ltd., Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 10:09:09 GMT
Where do I find Visis?
I need pricing on OCR software..
Tks dave t
DownUnder
From: Ewoud Meijer <meijerj@cs.utwente.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stealth DRAM driver??
Date: 17 May 1995 12:47:30 GMT
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pcr92$ari@utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
I want to use NS on a 486DX80,16MB with a stealth64 2MB dram. Now I hear
from my friends that NS does not support dram but needs at least 2 MB vram.
Is it really not possible for me to use (at least for a while) my own graphics
card, maybe with a little less colors? Does someone has a driver for me, or
is it already possible to use the 2 MB dram version with NS??
Thanks,
Ewoud
meijerj@cs.utwente.nl
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ppp compatible with slip?
Date: 17 May 1995 08:29:10 +0100
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1995May17.071532.28928@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950516185653.28287B-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950516185653.28287B-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
Lucas Lay <eaeu899@taurus.oac.uci.edu> writes:
> does any body know whether i could use ppp to connect to a server that
> uses slip? all the docs i've read said that ppp is a better protocol
than
> slip, but that doesn't mean it's compatible with slip... or does it?
> thanx in advance.
No, SLIP and PPP are not compatable. It is also true that PPP has a lot
more options, and is of more modern design than SLIP. However, SLIP is
much simpler, and is capable of lower overhead than PPP, so should be
faster in most circumstances (using CSLIP).
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ExpressOCR who makes it?
Date: 17 May 1995 11:58:40 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, Yale University
Message-ID: <ANDERSON.95May17075840@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
References: <D8pw79.3LL@softpac.com.au>
In-reply-to: Dave THOMAS's message of Wed, 17 May 1995 10:09:09 GMT
>>>>> "Dave" == Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au> writes:
In article <D8pw79.3LL@softpac.com.au> Dave THOMAS
<dave@softpac.com.au> writes:
Dave> Where do I find Visis? I need pricing on OCR software..
If you want ExpressOCR, you might as well get in touch with OpenSource
rather than trying to contact Visus directly. I bought the product,
and have never been able to get them (Visus) to answer any mail at
all. The version (1.0) I received (about six months ago) dates from
1993, and that is still the one that ships, despite claims in the help
file that various potentially useful features (like preserving font
information, so you can get something other than a simple ascii text
stream) were just about ready to go and would appear in the next
version.
This product is fast and quite accurate for what it does. That seems
to be mostly a result of the OCR technology they bought (from Caere).
Their own contribution seems to be little more than a basic wrapper
around that technology, and I am much less pleased with that side of
the program. Considering what I paid for ExpressOCR, I really think I
should have gotten a more versatile product. And the fact that they
are completely unresponsive to my inquiries doesn't make me feel a lot
better about it.
--Stphen R. Anderson
Dept. of Lingusitics
Yale University
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I need a FAT Binary Splitter! Where?
Date: 16 May 1995 16:28:29 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pagat$34@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <3onu2h$d78@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <3p8e8v$6v@rainix.jena.thur.de>
Rainer Sokoll (rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de) wrote:
: Andrew P Drake (adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: : The subject says it all - I'm looking for an app to strip only the Motorla
: : segment out of a FAT binary. Where can I find one?
: : Thanks!
: : -Andrew
: You have this app on your computer, really! Oops, forgot the name :-(( and
: my Linux doesn't know anything about fat-binaries. So scan the manpages with
: Librarian for architecture, fat and so on.
: Hope that helps,
: Rainer
lipo ist the program you're looking for. Comes with man-pages
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From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Which MIME best? (was Re: email from Mac to Next )
Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 16:03:24 -0600
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <distler-1505951603240001@cheshire.ph.utexas.edu>
References: <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com> <1995May14.164003.19202@seer.demon.co.uk> <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>
In article <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>, michael@mvhome (Michael
Verruto) wrote:
>
>Thanks! Do you or anyone else have some specific experience with any
>of these other mail programs on MAC or Windows/DOS systems?? Are any
>of them more reliant, stable or capable of making good attatched
>transfers? Unfortunately my experience in discussing MIME with the
>software vendors I have spoken with so far ends up in the " ..so
>what's this NeXT thing again?" category. (*sigh*)
In a word, "Eudora" (for the Mac. A Windows version exists, but I have no
experience with it.).
Either the freeware <ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/quest/mac/eudora/> or
commercial version is worth getting.
Jacques Distler
From: bjorn@xanthus.se (Bjorn Backlund)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex,comp.text.frame,comp.text.interleaf,comp.text.sgml,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Landmarks in the History of the Modern Word Processor
Date: 17 May 1995 15:30:56 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science
Message-ID: <3pd4rg$epg@sia.sics.se>
Keywords: word processor
Hello "Net",
First I would like to thank all of you who responded on
my previous postings re "history of the word processor"
and "word processor categories".
It's time to narrow the topic. I would like to
find the most important landmarks/breakthroughs with respect
to the modern word processor in particular
and text processing (text editors, word processors,
document compilers, page layout etc) in general
A "modern word processor" uses WYSIWYG, mouse
and support headers/footers, footnotes etc.
I would be more than happy if you would like
to take the time to answer these two simple questions:
----------------------------------------------------------------
Question 1
"Name the 10 most important landmarks in the history
of the modern word processor."
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1. Word Processor:
Version:
Date:
Why. e.g. new feature:
2. ...
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Question 2
"Name the 10 most important landmarks in the history
of (computer based) text processing."
----------------------------------------------------------------
1. System:
Version:
Date:
Why. e.g. new feature:
2. ...
Best regards,
Bjorn Backlund
bjorn@xanthus.se
For those of you who missed by earlier messages:
Let me introduce myself. My name is Bjorn Backlund and I am a cofounder of
a software company called Xanthus International. As a software developer,
Xanthus specializes in productivity software for the NEXTSTEP/OpenStep
platform. I have been the chief designer of both a spreadsheet program
(Questor) and a word processor (OpenWrite). (Btw, both are
Microsoft-compatible (i.e Excel and MSWord)).
I am currently working on a large document regarding a compound document
system (Open Object Embedding / OOE) I have designed for our products
(this system is to the functionality similar of the compound document
modules of OLE 2 and OpenDoc but much easier to adopt for app developers).
I intend to turn this document into a PhD thesis and that's why I write
this message to you. I am trying to compose a chapter about the history of
document systems in general and word processors in particular. Therefore I
would like your help to collect some data.
From: athan@sait136.morgan.com (Andrew C Athan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence Softwares
Date: 17 May 1995 17:05:16 GMT
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., Inc.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <ATHAN.95May17130516@sait136.morgan.com>
References: <D8oE3B.2GM@aptime.fdn.org>
In-reply-to: chris@aptime.fdn.org's message of Tue, 16 May 1995 14:40:23 GMT
You should look at CLIPS, I don't know exactly where you can download it
from, however, so you'll have to look around. CLIPS is a rule based
inference engine accessible through C calls. It is very flexible and quite
powerful.
aca
athan@morgan.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: Which MIME best? (was Re: email from Mac to Next )
References: <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com> <1995May14.164003.19202@seer.demon.co.uk> <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:05:31 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May17.090531.11365@proximus.north.de>
In article <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>,
Michael Verruto <michael@mvhome> wrote:
[...]
>Thanks! Do you or anyone else have some specific experience with any
>of these other mail programs on MAC or Windows/DOS systems?? Are any
>of them more reliant, stable or capable of making good attatched
>transfers? Unfortunately my experience in discussing MIME with the
>software vendors I have spoken with so far ends up in the " ..so
>what's this NeXT thing again?" category. (*sigh*)
"Eudora" for the Mac. But it does not work too well. There's nothing like
NeXTmail.app. (Though I do not know Eloquent.) ;-)
Gerhard.
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e Gerhard Moeller, Amselweg 16, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] e
X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: johnw@visix.com (John West)
Subject: Re: I want my black icons back (3.3)
Sender: news@visix.com
Message-ID: <johnw-1705950956260001@twinpeaks.visix.com>
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 13:56:26 GMT
References: <johnw-1205951432050001@twinpeaks.visix.com> <D8p561.rn@cunews.carleton.ca>
Organization: Visix Software Inc.
In article <D8p561.rn@cunews.carleton.ca>, csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris
Saldanha) wrote:
> John West (johnw@visix.com) wrote:
> : Could someone post the list of icons I need to replace to make all my
> : white icons black again? I had saved it, but now I can't find it.
>
> There's a BlackIcons script package on the archives (orst or peanuts)
> that will do just that for you.
>
> I ran it at work and home, because I hate those awful white icons.
Very cool. Thanks for the pointer.
It's at: ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources/util/BlackIcons.tar.gz
-john
--
John West :: To call [Newt Gingrinch] a weasel is to defame an
johnw@visix.com:: entire class of proud indigenous American rodents.
Visix Software :: -Will Durst
Whatever I say is whatever I say, and not what Visix says.
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Stealth DRAM driver??
Date: 17 May 1995 18:50:24 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pdghh$g3r@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <3pcr92$ari@utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl>
Ewoud Meijer (meijerj@cs.utwente.nl) wrote:
/ I want to use NS on a 486DX80,16MB with a stealth64 2MB dram. Now I hear
/ from my friends that NS does not support dram but needs at least 2 MB vram.
miro does support DRAM cards. So, it`s not a problem from NEXTSTEP.
/ is it already possible to use the 2 MB dram version with NS??
No. It`s not supported. Sorry.
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1782.htmld/1782.html:
/ DRAM-based cards (Diamond Stealth 64) are not supported.
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu
GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
From: doyle@pion.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compiling Emacs 4.0 on HP
Date: 17 May 1995 21:43:02 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pdql6$83j@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: emacs, HP, NeXTSTEP
Hi,
I have been trying to compile Emacs4.0 on my 712/60, but the build
keeps dying with:
./temacs -batch -l loadup dump
*** Segmentation fault
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
I have tried changing the sizes in puresize.h and recompiling alloc.c,
but to no avail. From the INSTALL file:
1) Make sure your system has enough swapping space allocated to handle a
program whose pure code is 900k bytes and whose data area is at least
400k and can reach 8Mb or more. If the swapping space is insufficient,
you will get an error in the command `temacs -batch -l loadup dump',
found in `./src/Makefile.in.in', or possibly when running the final
dumped Emacs.
So it would seem I don't have enough swapping space, but I don't really
know what that means (I have 64 MB RAM, and 200+MB free).
What to do?
Thanks,
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: I want my black icons back (3.3)
Message-ID: <D8p561.rn@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <johnw-1205951432050001@twinpeaks.visix.com>
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 00:25:13 GMT
John West (johnw@visix.com) wrote:
: Could someone post the list of icons I need to replace to make all my
: white icons black again? I had saved it, but now I can't find it.
There's a BlackIcons script package on the archives (orst or peanuts)
that will do just that for you.
I ran it at work and home, because I hate those awful white icons.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: How to attach a service?
Message-ID: <D8p5H1.1Is@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3pabks$q3k@hecate.umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 00:31:49 GMT
XiaoJun Li (xli@delphi.umd.edu) wrote:
: How can I attach an application to a service menu?
: Currently, I am trying to attach a third party app. onto my
: workspace menu under "services". I don't know how to do it.
You don't. The apps do it themselves, if they have a service to offer.
All apps installed in your path (/NextApps /LocalApps, ~/Apps, etc...)
will be scanned when you log in, and will declare their services to
NeXTSTEP then.
If you wish to add your own custom services, there is a package
(TickleServices) which will let you do that. Email Scott Hess
<scott@nic.gac.edu> for details on that package. I use it, and find it
very helpful.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
From: adm2@sarc.city.ac.uk (Alan Messer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Stealth DRAM driver??
Date: 17 May 1995 18:55:21 GMT
Organization: Systems Architecture Research Centre, City University, London, England.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pdgqp$kmh@bambam.soi.city.ac.uk>
References: <3pcr92$ari@utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl>
Hi,
Ewoud Meijer (meijerj@cs.utwente.nl) wrote:
: I want to use NS on a 486DX80,16MB with a stealth64 2MB dram. Now I hear
: from my friends that NS does not support dram but needs at least 2 MB vram.
I believe, but have not tried this, that the S3 generic driver (available via
NeXTAnswers (not on the CD)) does support the DRAM version of the S3 chip
(the 864). It's definitely worth a try if you have no other advice.
Alan.
--
Alan Messer | Also: - cj562@city.ac.uk
Systems Architecture Research Centre, | - be559@cleveland.freenet.edu
City University, London, EC1V 0HB | (ATK,MIME & PGP2.3 accepted)
Tel: +44 171 477 8551 | Fax: +44 171 477 8587
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Which MIME best? (was Re: email from Mac to Next
Message-ID: <1995May16.151140.1196@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 16 May 95 15:11:40 WET
References: <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com> <1995May14.164003.19202@seer.demon.co.uk> <3p7emp$qll@corporate.hesta.com>
michael@mvhome (Michael Verruto) wrote:
>Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> wrote:
>>In article <3p55ek$nnt@corporate.hesta.com> michael@mvhome (Michael
>>Verruto) writes:
>>> I am very interested in information about this as well...I am
>unsure
>>> as to what MIME capability will provide but what I want is to be
>able
>>> to *some* extent be able to mail between my NEXTSTEP - Windows -
>and
>>> Mac boxes with moderate "attatchment" capabilities....
>>>
>>> What software on those other platforms is available to do so, if
>any?
>>There are various MIME compliant mail readers for both these
>platforms.
>>If you can use Mail.app from 3.3, then this is the way to go.
>Thanks! Do you or anyone else have some specific experience with any
>of these other mail programs on MAC or Windows/DOS systems?? Are any
>of them more reliant, stable or capable of making good attatched
>transfers? Unfortunately my experience in discussing MIME with the
>software vendors I have spoken with so far ends up in the " ..so
>what's this NeXT thing again?" category. (*sigh*)
>Thanks for the help so far! ;>
Get Eudora which is *easily* available for both Macintosh & Windows
from an ftp site near you...
From: mtacchi@next.com (Mark G. Tacchi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I find more games for XOX?
Date: 17 May 1995 22:32:39 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pdti7$3mt@news.next.com>
References: <9505120429.AA07625@alleg.EDU>
In article <9505120429.AA07625@alleg.EDU> luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma)
writes:
# All I have is XOXWARS, are there more and if so, where?
#
# thanks!
#
# TjL
# --
# Timothy J. Luoma Email: luomat@alleg.edu Allegheny College
# NeXTStep 3.2 m68k UNIX workstations Shell=tcsh 6.05.01
# Allegheny College No Root/super-user access 1 Peter 3:15-16
# [ Please note: my email address is only valid until May 21 1995 ]
Sure there are more. Check out
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources/games
One quick glance, these are some:
Shoot.XoX.source.compressed
KaBLAM_v2.0a_src.tar.gz
defender.src.xox.940728.compressed
Is anybody working on others? I've got a bunch of source written that I just
don't have the time to finish...the artwork takes a lot of time. If anyone
knows a good artist that can draw Ostriches well, wants to have his/her name up
in lights, and can work for free, then drop me a line. We can get Joust.Xox
out the door.
Because it's so easy to write stuff with the Xox engine, I've been playing
around with another style of game. It's an adventure game (bird's eye, 2d)
with monsters that follow you. It's pretty bland at the moment, but I was
working on making a game construction kit for this game so one could build
levels (wall and monster placement).
Ah, all these ideas and no time to work on them. Maybe I should just release
the source as is and let someone else work on them?
-=Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Archer)
Subject: Using printer-resident fonts on HP LaserJet 4M
Message-ID: <D8qMB5.DL3@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Keywords: Printing, fonts, HPLJ4M
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:33:04 GMT
Thanks to cdl@helium.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein), who replied:
> I don't see how you can avoid using the PS fonts that come with the printer.
> Just send a PostScript file to it, and it will use the printer-resident fonts.
> %!
> 72 648 moveto
> /Palatino-Roman findfont 100 scalefont setfont
> (Hello world) show
> showpage
What I would like is the printer-resident fonts available on the NeXT font panel.
Has anyone been able to do this, and if so, how?
Hope I've been clearer this time... :)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher L. Archer Data Processing, University of Waterloo
clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (519) 885-1211 ext. 2292
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
From: chris@aptime.fdn.org
Subject: Artificial Intelligence Softwares
Message-ID: <D8oE3B.2GM@aptime.fdn.org>
Keywords: AI artificial intelligence
Sender: usenet@aptime.fdn.org (News Operator)
Organization: C3iS - APTIME // Paris, France
Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 14:40:23 GMT
Hi all,
I'd like to know if there is any rule-based Artificial
Intelligence Software that can be bundled in an application. Modification
of rules without recompilation should be possible.
--
Christophe Dore (chris@aptime.fdn.org NEXTMAIL OK)
From: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compiling Emacs 4.0 on HP
Date: 18 May 1995 00:53:54 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3pe5r2$fah@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <3pdql6$83j@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: emacs, HP, NeXTSTEP
In article <3pdql6$83j@newshost.lanl.gov>,
Mark Doyle <doyle@pion.lanl.gov> wrote:
> I have been trying to compile Emacs4.0 on my 712/60, but the build
> keeps dying with:
>
> ./temacs -batch -l loadup dump
> *** Segmentation fault
> Stop.
> *** Exit 1
> Stop.
You did not by any chance try to compile emacs fat ? That leads to
errors like this.
> So it would seem I don't have enough swapping space, but I don't really
> know what that means (I have 64 MB RAM, and 200+MB free).
That is certainly not the problem.
In any case, why don't you wait another 24 hours and get Emacs 4.1
from the major archive sites ? It also comes with a quadruple fat
binary Installer package.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tar file decoder for dos
Message-ID: <1995May18.094038.1202@ittpub>
From: Mike Davis <mdavis@milliways.galaxy1>
Date: 18 May 95 09:40:37 WET
References: <3p966v$ct@nuscc.nus.sg> <1995May16.230341@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: wrote:
>
> In article <3p966v$ct@nuscc.nus.sg>, engp4314@leonis.nus.sg (Niu Yimin) writes:
> > : I am looking for a tar file decoder for dos, anyone knows?
> > : your response will be highly appreciated.
>
> I found mine somewhere on Simtel. Nothing special, it just works. The only
> funny (but for me no problem) thing with it is that when I wanted to try
> it out in the dos-box of NT, it crashed. Talking about compatibility ;-).
>
> Willem
>
> W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gintic - Singapore gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
>
There's a GNU tar for DOS. I'm not entirely sure that they're 100%
compatible.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: fred@improve.fdn.org (Frederic STARK)
Subject: Looking for SNMP object/progs
Message-ID: <1995May18.114244.26570@improve.fdn.org>
Keywords: SNMP, admin
Sender: news@improve.fdn.org
Organization: improve SA - La Defense, Paris, France.
Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:42:44 GMT
Hi,
Does anybody could point me to a Commercial or non-Commercial
product or library that would ease system administrations ?
The best thing would be like a SNMP library... but any other
stuff could be OK.
Thanks in advance,
Frederic STARK
I'll summarize if anybody ask that and if I have at least one answer :-)
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medium NeXTMail OK
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From: Luis Miguel Pinho <deec30>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmiWeb thoesn't read Gifs
Date: 18 May 1995 10:17:51 GMT
Organization: Universidade do Porto
Message-ID: <3pf6sf$ugn@khyber.ncc.up.pt>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi.
I recently downloaded OmniWeb and it doesn't read Gifs.
Is there a reason? How can I make it read the Gif's?
Is there a WWW browser who reads them?
If someone could help me.
Thanks.
Luis Miguel Pinho
deec30@tom.fe.up.pt
lmp@tormentas.fe.up.pt
lmp@magalhaes.fe.up.pt(NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: A.Leene@research.ptt.nl (Arnaud Leene)
Subject: Definition of Mailhost server
Message-ID: <D8s2wA.3sJ@news.research.ptt.nl>
Sender: usenet@news.research.ptt.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: KPN Research, The Netherlands
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 15:28:41 GMT
Hai,
I have a mailbox with different Internet-providers. Where must I specify
the mailhost?
Can I specify multiple mailhosts? One for each provider?
Thanks,
Arnaud
From: rworne@primenet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wordperfect upgrades from 1.0? *FOLLOWUP*
Date: 17 May 1995 06:04:18 GMT
Organization: Primenet
Message-ID: <3pc3l2$j7r@news.primenet.com>
References: <3p912m$fet@news.primenet.com>
In <3p912m$fet@news.primenet.com>, rworne@primenet.com writes:
>I've aquired a shrinkwrapped version of WP 1.0 (not 1.0.1) for my Cube and
>It's pretty damn buggy. At least when it crashes, it doesn't take the whole
>system with it.
>
>Anyway, where can I either:
>1. Patch this puppy to 1.0.1
>2. Get the latest version (above)
>
>Things are getting a bit confusing with Novell aquiring Wordperfect and all.
>
>(Include phone # for WP/Novell if you got it, my docs don't include it).
A bit of followup...
A call to WP/Novell was unproductive, they have no more versions to ship &
according to them, even the master disks are gone.
Even more unbelieveable, they informed me to find someone who has the
latest version and get it from them. Wierd, but true.
So, does anyone have a set (note: before sending flames about piracy, I CAN
document that I am a legal licensee...) of WordPerfect 1.0.1?
From: beebb@camtwh.eric.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mach64 Drivers
Date: 18 May 1995 04:30:12 GMT
Organization: Eye Research Institute, Toronto Western Hospital
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3peigk$t1h@sator.eric.on.ca>
References: <3pasri$lo2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
In article <3pasri$lo2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> lescomp@ix.netcom.com (Mark LeScoezec) writes:
>What are people running the ATI Mach64 video card with until NeXT fixes
>their driver? When I run the NeXT-supplied driver the screen is so
>dark that I can just see the icons. I am currently running the drivers
[munch]
>regards
>Mark LeScoezec
>lescomp@ix.netcom.com
Try using the new driver version from NeXTanswers (#1734) dated May 1, 1995
I'm using it and "it just works", which the old version did not.
Brian
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Department of Physiology
beebb@camtwh.eric.on.ca - Internet Consultant/Web Page Developer
brian@borgship.eric.on.ca - NeXT/MIME Mail
http://borgship.eric.on.ca/
From: rworne@primenet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Black Icons Back
Date: 17 May 1995 21:35:53 GMT
Organization: Primenet
Message-ID: <3pdq7q$abh@news.primenet.com>
References: <3p74hv$cts@phakt.usc.edu>
In <3p74hv$cts@phakt.usc.edu>, reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) writes:
>You can get a freeware script, "BlackIcons.app", someone wrote specifically the return black icons to v.3.3 and it includes the necessary icons. Sorry, but I don't remember exactly what the exact location is but I know it's out there. I used it but I'v
>e already deleted the script.
>--
>"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
I saw it over at ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de, in one of the directories last night.
I think someone had the humor to put it in "patches."
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fiend fat? fat version wont run on hp
Date: 18 May 1995 17:02:59 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3pfuk3$3qkb@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: fiend
hi.
here's an interesting problem. i grabbed a fat version of
Fiend.app, the cool dock extender. workspace says it is
quadruple-fat. but when i try to launch it from my hp 715/100,
it gives me the panel that says 'this program does not contain
an executable for this type of system' or whatever it is.
anyone have a REAL fat fiend or can someone enlighten me?
thanks!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric
colorado state university
From: dcl@panix.com ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fiend fat? fat version wont run on hp
Date: 18 May 1995 14:00:52 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3pg20k$n5@panix.com>
References: <3pfuk3$3qkb@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: fiend
In <3pfuk3$3qkb@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) writes:
>here's an interesting problem. i grabbed a fat version of
>Fiend.app, the cool dock extender. workspace says it is
>quadruple-fat. but when i try to launch it from my hp 715/100,
>it gives me the panel that says 'this program does not contain
>an executable for this type of system' or whatever it is.
IT LIES!
>anyone have a REAL fat fiend or can someone enlighten me?
Sure. For some reason, the pre-release version of the Sparc
compiler that I used to make the Fiend1.3 executable does
not store the executable in such a way that the HP's can
find the HP executable in the fat binary.
You can:
1. Use lipo to remove the Sparc executable;
2. Use lipo to make an HP-only executable.
Either of these will (should) work.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tar file decoder for dos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 18 May 1995 18:38:05 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3pg46d$c8n@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <3p966v$ct@nuscc.nus.sg> <1995May16.230341@alpha.ntu.ac.sg> <1995May18.094038.1202@ittpub>
: There's a GNU tar for DOS. I'm not entirely sure that they're 100%
: compatible.
The main problem seems to be the name-mangling when going from Unix to DOS.
Let's say you have tarred two files
aAaAaAaAaAaAaAaA
and
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA on a unix system. When you untar under DOS, what
should these map into? I have yet to find a good program to take care of
.tar.gz archives---either commercial or non-commercial. So, I have resorted
to doing this on my linux partition, and then handmoving file by file.
Anyone know a good gnutar under DOS with name-mangling?
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
From: sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmiWeb thoesn't read Gifs
Date: 18 May 1995 18:47:39 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3pg4ob$po5@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3pf6sf$ugn@khyber.ncc.up.pt>
On 18 May 1995 10:17:51 GMT Luis Miguel Pinho (deec30) wrote:
>Hi.
>I recently downloaded OmniWeb and it doesn't read Gifs.
>Is there a reason? How can I make it read the Gif's?
>Is there a WWW browser who reads them?
>If someone could help me.
Works fine for me.
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From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ppp compatible with slip?
Date: 18 May 1995 20:20:49 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Message-ID: <3pga71$662@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950516185653.28287B-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
The Morning Star PPP product can connect to remote machine using the SLIP
protocol. I can connect to Marble's TeleConnect SLIP software just fine.
Their documentation also lists many other compatible SLIP implementations their
PPP product can connect to.
Also, to answer the question of which is more efficient and better performer,
SLIP or PPP, is a posting from comp.protocols.ppp .
- Tim -
=======================================================
From: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield)
Subject: Re: Performance of PPP vs SLIP or CSLIP
Message-ID: <BOB.95May1165237@cowfish.MorningStar.Com>
Sender: news@MorningStar.Com
Organization: Morning Star Technologies, Inc.
References: <3np361$5o8@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 20:52:37 GMT
Lines: 38
(Isn't this a FAQ?)
In article <3np361$5o8@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> Omar Syed <osyed@lerc.nasa.gov>
writes:
Does anyone know if there is any performance differance between PPP
and SLIP and also PPP and CSLIP. Im curious because if a service
provider gives me the option to connect using PPP, SLIP or CSLIP
which should I chose to get the best performance. Thanks.
There's no measurable performance difference between SLIP and PPP.
See http://www.MorningStar.Com/MorningStar/slip-ppp-compare.html or
http://www.MorningStar.Com/MorningStar/ppp-talk/ppp-talk.html (or
maybe ftp://ftp.MorningStar.Com/pub/papers/sug91-cheapIP*) for more
detailed discussion.
Rather than worrying about the three bytes more overhead in a PPP
frame than in a SLIP frame, it's much more important to ensure that
your link (whether SLIP or PPP) does RFC-1144 "VJ" TCP header
compression. When a SLIP implementation does VJ, it's called "CSLIP".
There's no term commonly used to distinguish a PPP implementation that
does VJ from one that doesn't, because nearly all of them do. The
only commercial async PPP implementation I can think of that doesn't
do VJ is Frontier Technologies SuperPPP, and all the free
implementations do it, so you should have no problem getting the
responsiveness you need.
If your service provider offers the choice, select PPP because PPP
links are much easier to troubleshoot that SLIP links. We sell
routers, and software for UNIX systems, that all do both SLIP and PPP.
The folks in our tech support group can testify that they spend more
time on the phone with a typical SLIP problem than with a typical PPP
problem, because fewer clues are available when you're running SLIP.
A PPP implementation can tell its administrator "we failed to connect
because we disagreed on his IP address".
--
Bob Sutterfield, Morning Star Technologies +1 614 451 1883
3518 Riverside Dr, Suite 101, Columbus Ohio USA, 43221-1754 +1 800 558 7827
Bob@MorningStar.Com http://www.MorningStar.Com/bob.html Fax: +1 614 459 5054
Pray Globally - Serve Locally
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950516185653.28287B-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu> Lucas
Lay <eaeu899@taurus.oac.uci.edu> writes:
> does any body know whether i could use ppp to connect to a server that
> uses slip? all the docs i've read said that ppp is a better protocol than
> slip, but that doesn't mean it's compatible with slip... or does it?
> thanx in advance.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Tim F. Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu
Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 503-737-2270
Oregon State University fax: 503-737-2064
NeXTmail ok!
From: ocs@ms.mff.cuni.cz (Ondej Cada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: S3Link
Date: 18 May 1995 18:46:06 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199505182340.BAA00986@ns.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
Hi,
the beta version of S3Link was just submitted to ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/submissions as
S3Link.README.tar.gz ... copy of announcement sent to comp.sys.next.announce
S3Link.pkg.NIHS.tar.gz ... the app itself
Caution - the beta depends on FoundationKit! If you want to use/test S3Link
and have no FK, let me know at <ocs@earn.cvut.cz> (NOT at cuni.cz!)
OC
From: dcl@panix.com ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Shared memory hack for NS?
Date: 18 May 1995 15:25:19 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3pg6uv$jof@panix.com>
Hi.
I seem to remember someone creating a shared memory hack
for NeXTStep. If someone could point me in the right direction,
I'd appreciate it. Meanwhile I'll keep searching (NeXTAnswers
has thus far not yielded anything, so I'm about to hunt the archives.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What do I need to view .mov Quicktime movies??
Date: 19 May 1995 03:32:06 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3ph3fm$2bo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
I am trying to view .mov quicktime movies coming off Omniweb. These files get
downloaded then Edit opens and I see a bunch of garbage. Anyone able to fill me
in one what I need to do??
Thanks in advance,
Shaun.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Fat Apps, Colours (terminal,edit)
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 17 May 95 07:34:43 GMT
Message-ID: <17495136.27283.19756@kcbbs.gen.nz>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
Just some quick questions if anybody's got any info I'd be glad to hear.
Running NeXTSTEP 3.0 on a black slab:
[1] - Can I run quad/double fat applications or do I need to upgrade to
3.3 to do this?
[2] - I rather like my terminal and edit with white text on a very dark
grey or black background and I'm wondering if there is some
config file to define colours for these applications.
[3] - Can I change the selecting colour? When I drag over text it goes
grey and I'd rather like forest green (goes well with the greys) -
again is there a config file for this?
Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
From: michael@goldleaf.com (Michael Shaler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ExpressOCR who makes it?
Date: 19 May 1995 03:55:58 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Message-ID: <3ph4se$pjr@nntp.crl.com>
References: <ANDERSON.95May17075840@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
Keywords: OCR
In article <ANDERSON.95May17075840@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) writes:
> >>>>> "Dave" == Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au> writes:
> In article <D8pw79.3LL@softpac.com.au> Dave THOMAS
> <dave@softpac.com.au> writes:
>
> Dave> Where do I find Visis? I need pricing on OCR software..
>
> If you want ExpressOCR, you might as well get in touch with OpenSource
> rather than trying to contact Visus directly. I bought the product,
> and have never been able to get them (Visus) to answer any mail at
> all. The version (1.0) I received (about six months ago) dates from
> 1993, and that is still the one that ships, despite claims in the help
> file that various potentially useful features (like preserving font
> information, so you can get something other than a simple ascii text
> stream) were just about ready to go and would appear in the next
> version.
>
> This product is fast and quite accurate for what it does. That seems
> to be mostly a result of the OCR technology they bought (from Caere).
> Their own contribution seems to be little more than a basic wrapper
> around that technology, and I am much less pleased with that side of
> the program. Considering what I paid for ExpressOCR, I really think I
> should have gotten a more versatile product. And the fact that they
> are completely unresponsive to my inquiries doesn't make me feel a lot
> better about it.
Blatant plug: if you are unhappy with ExpressOCR, please have a look at
eXTRAread, GS Corporation's OCR package. Lots of features, real support,
etc. Please email me for more info.
Michael Shaler
GS Corporation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmiWeb thoesn't read Gifs
Message-ID: <1995May19.092519.44824@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Date: 19 May 95 09:25:19 MET
References: <3pf6sf$ugn@khyber.ncc.up.pt>
Luis Miguel Pinho <deec30> wrote:
>Hi.
>I recently downloaded OmniWeb and it doesn't read Gifs.
>Is there a reason? How can I make it read the Gif's?
>Is there a WWW browser who reads them?
>If someone could help me.
>Thanks.
>Luis Miguel Pinho
>deec30@tom.fe.up.pt
>lmp@tormentas.fe.up.pt
>lmp@magalhaes.fe.up.pt(NeXT mail)
Hate to have to post, but the sender's address is junk (or rather, missing!)
Luis, CORRECT THE SETTINGS!
Hate to have to post, but the sender's address is junk (or rather, missing).
Luis, CORRECT THE SETTINGS!
All you need is OmniImage.app! Also available on the archives. This is the
part which will actually display all not-built-in images.
---
Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67
Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15
Robert Frank
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
Switzerland
From: Ralph_Zazula@next.com (Ralph Zazula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to attach a service?
Date: 18 May 1995 20:11:45 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pg9m1$972@news.next.com>
References: <D8p5H1.1Is@cunews.carleton.ca>
Chris Saldanha writes
> XiaoJun Li (xli@delphi.umd.edu) wrote:
> : How can I attach an application to a service menu?
> : Currently, I am trying to attach a third party app. onto my
> : workspace menu under "services". I don't know how to do it.
>
> You don't. The apps do it themselves, if they have a service to offer.
> All apps installed in your path (/NextApps /LocalApps, ~/Apps, etc...)
> will be scanned when you log in, and will declare their services to
> NeXTSTEP then.
>
> If you wish to add your own custom services, there is a package
> (TickleServices) which will let you do that. Email Scott Hess
> <scott@nic.gac.edu> for details on that package. I use it, and find it
> very helpful.
>
> --Chris
> Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love
> Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frightening?
> csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it.
> http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | It owns you."
You may also want to check Preferences.app (the clock/calandar). There is
a section in there for enabling/disabling preferences.
Z
--
Ralph Zazula
NeXT Computer, Inc.
Ralph_Zazula@next.com
(415) 780-2893
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: waiming@cs.ust.hk (Chan Wai Ming)
Subject: GUSMAX driver for NS 3.3
Message-ID: <1995May19.083907.23700@uxmail.ust.hk>
Sender: usenet@uxmail.ust.hk
Organization: The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 08:39:07 GMT
Hello,
Is there any driver of GUS MAX sound card for NeXTSTEP ???
If yes, where can I find it ???
Thanks
waiming
--
"Stupid people do stupid things" Forrest Gump
So... please forgive me if I do stupid things :)
waiming@cs.ust.hk
From: dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs for NEXTSTEP 4.1 Crash?
Date: 19 May 1995 04:11:00 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ph5ok$c08@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
When running the latest release of emacs for NEXTSTEP (v4.1) from a
shell without any args or a filename etc., it dies with the message:
Fatal error (10).Bus error
Similarly if I run with a file and then try to do any file I/O (like
load another file or something) it dies with the same error. Can anyone
verify this, or is this just a bizzare setup on my end?
Dale
---
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Graduate Student NeXTmail: dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca
Department of Computer Science Tel: (403) 220-7687
University of Calgary Fax: (403) 281-5242
http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
PGP Public Key: `finger -l brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca'
From: pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it (pisati stefano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIDI player ?
Date: 19 May 1995 12:15:48 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Message-ID: <3pi25k$bdn@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Anyone know a good MIDI player via internal DSP for NeXTStep 3.3 (I have
black hardware) ? If yes where can I find it ???
TIA
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"Stat rosa pristina nomine nomina nuda tenemus"
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NeXTmail: pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it PGP-Key on request
From: un7j@rzstud2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica pricing
Date: 19 May 1995 08:28:57 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Message-ID: <3phks9$2ta@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi out there!
Maybe someone can help me out with the following: I would like to know
wether there is a Student Version of Mathematica for NeXTstep (Intel)
available and if so, at which pricing....
Thanx!
CU
-JF-
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From: cbohn@vt.edu (Christopher Bohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NCSA HTTPD v1.4 for the NeXT
Date: 19 May 1995 17:50:05 GMT
Organization: The Performance Center
Message-ID: <3pilod$bap@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Does anyone know if there is a precompile binary for the NeXT of
NCSA's HTTPD v1.4? If so, where can I find it? I know where a binary
is for v1.3, but v1.4 is not there. NCSA's ftp site doesn't even have
the source code anymore, so I can't try to compile it myself. If anyone
knows where I might find either the binary or source for this version,
or even any other better HTTPD application, please let me know.
Thanks for any help.
Christopher Bohn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Archer)
Subject: Printer-resident HP Laserjet 4M PS fonts on NeXT font panel
Message-ID: <D8qou7.HML@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Keywords: Printing, font panel, HPLJ4M, PS
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 20:27:42 GMT
Thanks again to Carl Lowenstein, who replied:
> OK -- what you are saying is that you want to have the printer fonts appear
> on the NeXT font panel. I'm not sure this can be done without having the
> actual font description files also present in /LocalLibrary/Fonts or some
> such place. But why not re-ask the question as follows:
> How can I make the set of fonts which are resident in my PostScript
> printer appear on the NeXT font panel.
Consider the question re-asked, and I hope Carl's not the only one reading (or replying) to this...
Cheers to all,
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (519) 885-1211 ext. 2292
From: jef@best.com (Jonathan E. Flamm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there a public domain X for Intel?
Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 10:25:09 -0800
Organization: Sega of America
Message-ID: <jef-1805951025090001@jef.vip.best.com>
Hello,
I was wondering if there is a public domain X available for NextStep 3.3
Intel hardware. I have seen only object code for mouseX on
ftp.cs.orst.edu. Also, what is the fatest commercial version (how much
faster than Public) and how much is it. Thanks,
-jonathan
--
Jonathan E. Flamm
jef@best.com
Technical Director
Sega of America, 150 Shoreline Dr., Redwood City, CA 94065
From: stearns@hobbes.amsa.com (Brian Stearns)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Spiderwoman woes
Date: 19 May 1995 21:01:07 GMT
Organization: American Student Assistance
Message-ID: <3pj0uj$80u@dinero.amsa.com>
I recently downloaded the Spiderwoman web browser. When I double click
on the icon it shoots to the lower left corner and nothing else happens.
Does anyone out there know what this problem might be? or have you had
this problem? Is it just crappy software?
Thanks for the help.
Brian Stearns
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Is there any Voice-recognition software for Intel platforms ?
Message-ID: <D8poM5.6s@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Keywords: SimonSays, Voice
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 07:25:17 GMT
Hi all,
I'm looking for a voice-recognition programm and I found out that
SimonSays was everything I wanted, except that it only runs on Motorola.
Is there anything for Intel machines ?
Thanks a lot
---
Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Is there any SoundWave kind of app on Intel ?
Message-ID: <D8poqG.7J@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 07:27:52 GMT
Hi all,
Is there an app on Intel with wich I could modify a .snd file ? I need to
change its pitch, speed, volume, add an echo and so on. With every sound
card comes at least one app that does it, only for Windows. I wondered if
we have anything like that under NS for Intel.
Thanks a lot
---
Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
From: hwm@coho.halcyon.com (Henry W. Meyerding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tar file decoder for dos
Date: 19 May 1995 19:11:29 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <3piqh1$ja@news1.halcyon.com>
References: <3p966v$ct@nuscc.nus.sg>
Niu Yimin (engp4314@leonis.nus.sg) wrote:
: : I am looking for a tar file decoder for dos, anyone knows?
: : your response will be highly appreciated.
I use dostar all the time. It works very well. Unfortunately, I do not
remember where I got it. Try ftp.celestial.com
Good luck!
Henry W. Meyerding
From: deviant@sagerrak (Jeffrey A. Sickel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCSA HTTPD v1.4 for the NeXT
Date: 19 May 1995 23:04:58 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
Message-ID: <3pj86q$pc0@firehose.mindspring.com>
References: <3pilod$bap@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
cbohn@vt.edu (Christopher Bohn) wrote:
>Does anyone know if there is a precompile binary for the NeXT of
>NCSA's HTTPD v1.4? If so, where can I find it? I know where a
binary
>is for v1.3, but v1.4 is not there. NCSA's ftp site doesn't even
have
>the source code anymore, so I can't try to compile it myself. If
anyone
>knows where I might find either the binary or source for this
version,
>or even any other better HTTPD application, please let me know.
>Thanks for any help.
>Christopher Bohn
^^^^^
Why bother with the NCSA's. Grab the Cern 3.0 server and you'll be up
and running in no time. I've posted before about the Cern server and
others people running NeXTs keep going -- use the NCSA -- but it's not
as easy to configure, doesn't support the same amount of cache when
doing proxies and in general just isn't as clean. Besides, if they've
yanked the code, go with the starter.
Jeff Sickel
From: jmcnamar@onramp.net (Jason L. McNamara)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Internet Access software?
Date: 20 May 1995 00:24:05 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pjcr5$gic@news.onramp.net>
References: <3pbkfb$akv@aura.cu.soltec.com>
Steve Weintz writes
> In article <1995May16.202612.27046@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch
> <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com> writes:
>
> I must say I don't find that to be the case; products mentioned by
> OpenSource personnel are in most cases those I would suggest as
solutions to the queries.
>
It's just that the OS form-letter "We sell -xyz-; call us" approach is a
bit annoying, especially in cases where they don't actually stock xyz, or
have never actually sold a copy of the software in question. :-)
Conversely, Paul Lynch works for P&L Systems (he's the 'P') in England,
and could perhaps follow up every software-related post with "yes, we sell
that," but chooses not to. (Actually, I just saw him recommend a freeware
package.)
Jason McNamara
ps. Obviously, this post can not be construed as completely unbiased. I
work for another hardware company which competes against OS in that area.
From: eb@marcus (Eric Bergerson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What do I need to view .mov Quicktime movies??
Date: 20 May 1995 11:23:06 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3pkjeq$eek@news.panix.com>
References: <3ph3fm$2bo@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
You need to buy NEXTIME from NeXT. It is a QuickTime movie player.
Sincerely,
Eric Bergerson
Home: Work
eb@panix.com eb@object.com
212 744 9359 212 988 6268
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From: eb@marcus (Eric Bergerson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTIME and .avi file formats
Date: 20 May 1995 11:23:57 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3pkjgd$eek@news.panix.com>
NEXTIME seems to have registered the ".avi" extension,
since .avi files show up as a videotape in file viewer and
NEXTIME gets launched if you double-click an .avi file.
I didn't expect that NEXTIME supports .avi files, nor did
it successfully show the file I tried to open.
1.) Can NEXTIME view .avi movies? Is it NEXTIME or my
file?
2.) Why, if it can't display .avi movies, does NEXTIME,
register the extensions?
3.) Is there an app out there that will view .avi movies?
Thanks,
Eric Bergerson
Home: Work
eb@panix.com eb@object.com
212 744 9359 212 988 6268
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From: vj@cais3.cais.com (Vijay B. Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need help with slab..
Date: 20 May 1995 16:19:47 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470
Message-ID: <3pl4r3$73r@news.cais.com>
How do you do a manual boot with black hw? -vijay
From: mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.sybase
Subject: sybase...NT server, NEXTSTEP clients
Date: 19 May 1995 22:00:28 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3pj4ds$31u@shelob.afs.com>
Has anyone had experience running an environment with a Sybase server on
Windows/NT and NEXTSTEP clients? If so, what were setup, configuration, and
performance like?
Thanks for any info!
mikem
--
Michael J. Matlack
Anderson Financial Systems, +1 215 653 0911
Mike_Matlack@afs.com (NEXT mail OK)
From: rworne@primenet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where is a good place to buy.....
Date: 20 May 1995 19:31:37 GMT
Organization: Primenet
Message-ID: <3plg2p$ah1@news.primenet.com>
References: <3p3p6e$s3e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In <3p3p6e$s3e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew P Drake) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of a good place to buy the academic version of NS3.3 for
>black hardware? I've checked my local university bookstore, but they don't list
>it. Should I call NeXT or is there a VAR who will sell at educational discount?
>
>Thanks for the referal, and if someone has NS3.3 used, let me know.
>
From what I have seen, the NS 3.3 academic comes with both White and
Black Boot disks. It installed on my '040 cube quite nicely off CDROM.
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From: harrison@clark.net (Harrison Consulting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for MusicKit
Date: 20 May 1995 19:53:32 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <3plhbs$j3o@clarknet.clark.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi all,
Can someone please point me to the MusicKit? I think it is at
Stanford someplace.
TIA,
Scott
--
- Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Finger harrison@clark.net for PGP Public Key.
From: henryc@reality.net6a.io.org (Christian Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 20 May 1995 19:54:48 GMT
Organization: Intro to Reality... North York, Ontario
Message-ID: <3plhe8$1ge@ionews.io.org>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>,
Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>Sadly, there just isn't any 'SoftImage'/'LightWave'-lookalike...
>LightWave has migrated from Amigas to WinNT & SGI, and even Real3D
>has got a SGI engine... Well, looks like I'm going to have to take up the
>SGI option again...(somebody ought to tell SGI IRIX sucks)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why? :-) Some of us happen to _love_ using IRIX, and dread the thought of
having to run other operating systems (even other Unix or Unix-like systems).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: MIDI player ?
Message-ID: <D8w865.2Du@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3pi25k$bdn@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 20:13:16 GMT
pisati stefano (pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it) wrote:
: Anyone know a good MIDI player via internal DSP for NeXTStep 3.3 (I have
: black hardware) ? If yes where can I find it ???
You can grab the MusicKit from ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu, which contains a
whole suite of tools and libraries for using the DSP.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Spiderwoman woes
Message-ID: <D8w8BA.2t8@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3pj0uj$80u@dinero.amsa.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 20:16:22 GMT
Brian Stearns (stearns@hobbes.amsa.com) wrote:
: I recently downloaded the Spiderwoman web browser. When I double click
: on the icon it shoots to the lower left corner and nothing else happens.
: Does anyone out there know what this problem might be? or have you had
: this problem? Is it just crappy software?
Are you running NeXTSTEP 3.3? DO you have any version of Entrprise
Objects installed on your system? What does your Workspace Console window
say?
SpiderWoman is not crappy; it looks like an excellent program, from my
first looks. It requires either NeXTSTEP 3.3, or a combination of NS 3.2
and EOF 1.0 installed.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: "Robert L. Schmitter" <rschmitr@zsmg.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: JOBS:NeXTSTEP and Object Oriented Programmers
Date: 20 May 1995 19:58:40 GMT
Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290
Message-ID: <3plhlg$k24@news.voicenet.com>
Zonics System Management Group, Inc. is a company that specializes in
creating and Maintaining Mission Critical Application in the Object Oriented
Client Server Environment. We have development a product line that allows our
clients to develop application using NeXTSTEP and deploy them on just about
any other OS (native, no runtime fees!). We have been using this tool set for over
2 years. It has received great reception from our clients. The number of projects
and clients is growing rapidly!
We are looking for developers with all levels of experience to place on
current and future projects. Must be NeXTSTEP or Object Oriented with a
preference in Objective C. We are looking for consultants and prospective
employees. We are based in Philadelphia, PA. Must work locally. Please E-Mail
resume with current salary to:
rschmitr@zsmg.com (NeXTSTEP, MIME, & plain)
P.S. For those of you who would like to use this product line, we plain to make it
publicly available by the end of 1995. Please mail me with your comments.
From: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs for NEXTSTEP 4.1 Crash?
Date: 19 May 1995 16:51:42 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3piiau$ff@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <3ph5ok$c08@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
In article <3ph5ok$c08@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>, <dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca> wrote:
> When running the latest release of emacs for NEXTSTEP (v4.1) from a
> shell without any args or a filename etc., it dies with the message:
>
> Fatal error (10).Bus error
>
> Similarly if I run with a file and then try to do any file I/O (like
> load another file or something) it dies with the same error. Can anyone
> verify this, or is this just a bizzare setup on my end?
Have you considered this point in the README file ?
"[...]
However, you
need to get and make the full source distribution under any of these
conditions:
[...]
(f) Your Emacs binary crashes immediately upon startup. An Emacs dumped under
one release does not necessarily work on all others. That is why NeXT
had to distribute a new Emacs with NS3.3. The binary package is
compiled to work on as many machines as possible and there have
been no reports that it actually crashes on any machine. But if
this happens to you, recompile the source on your machine. It will
work.
[...]"
Emacs for NeXTstep 4.1 binary distribution should work on all NS3.3
(user) systems and I've had success reports from a variety of other
systems going back as far as 3.0. There have also been reports now of
Emacs crashing on some NS3.2 machines. _HOWEVER_ an Emacs compiled
and dumped on your machine _will_ run on your machine regardless of
what version of NS 3.[x] you are using.
Yes, I know that this is an annoying behaviour. Unfortunately there
seems to be no way around this as even NeXT themselves found out. Try
running their emacs distributed with NS3.2 under NS3.3 or vice versa.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Getting NeXTMail to Work Over PPP
Message-ID: <D8wAIn.9tu@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 21:03:59 GMT
I'm currently rebuilding my system after a nasty disk wiping incident
inspired by MS-DOS's crummy set-up program. At any rate, I know have PPP
2.2.2 running once again, and my system is back to sanity except for one
thing.
Previously, I had been using PopOver.app to suck my mail in from a university
machine, read and reply to it on my white system, and then send the stuff back
out. As far as I recall, it just worked. Since my re-install of pretty much
everything though, this doesn't happen. When I send mail to sites off of
our local domain, it gets bounced back to me... for instance I get returned mail with headers like the following:
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Date: Sat, 20 May 95 15:15:17 -0400
From: NeXT Mail Agent <Mailer-Agent>
Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown
To: gdkuch
----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 mailhost (ether)... 550 Host unknown
554 darcy@amber.hasc.ca... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
I'm not versed in the inner inanities of sendmail. What have I failed to
re-do in the new installation? I can nslookup the target machine for the
mail, so it's visible from my machine. But the mailhost (ether) seems to
be disconcerting. Any suggestions?
I'll post a summary of any responses I get if others are having any
similar problems....
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: vj@cais3.cais.com (Vijay B. Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need help with slab..
Date: 21 May 1995 03:21:00 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470
Message-ID: <3pmbis$r4t@news.cais.com>
References: <3pl4r3$73r@news.cais.com>
Vijay B. Gupta (vj@cais3.cais.com) wrote:
: How do you do a manual boot with black hw? -vijay
Command Command ~
bsd -s
(someone emailed me the answer)
-vijay
Control: cancel <D8wAIn.9tu@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: cancel
Message-ID: <D8wnB2.12o@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 01:40:14 GMT
<D8wAIn.9tu@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> was cancelled from within trn.
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@neumann.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: Is there a WriteNow or RTF to (La)TeX convertor? (La)TeX to WN/RTF?
Message-ID: <D8vyDB.5CF@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Organization: Meacham, Zweig, and Cats
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 16:41:32 GMT
Hi all,
I'm trying to write a bibliography program for the next, and I'm thinking about
incorporating bibtex in it, although it may eventually prove easier to use the
*bib utilities. Still, it won't even be an option if I can't find an RTF to
(La)TeX convertor or (La)TeX to RTF convertor. Does anyone know of such
beasts. Thanks in advance for your help. Peace,
James
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kasahara@cpnx2.b6.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (Kasahara Katsuaki)
Subject: Questions to InstantTeX users on Intel machines
Message-ID: <D8t1yC.E7q@kochi.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp>
Sender: news@kochi.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (News Manager)
Organization: Computer Center, Kanagawa University, Kanagawa, Japan
Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 03:06:11 GMT
I am using InstantTeX3.0 under OS3.2j (j means Japanese localization).
TeXEdit.app supports emacs-like key binding which in fact works
on balck hardware with a NeXT ISO keyboard. However, it dosen't work
with a NeXT ADB keyboard on black hardware nor with a 101 keyboard on
Intel hardware.
If the users of OS without "j" can use that function on Intel mahcine
with the 101 keyboard there should be some mismatch between the
relization of the emacs key binding by InstantTeX and Japanese
localization. I am waiting for information.
--
KASAHARA Katsuaki
Engineering Department, Kanagawa University,
Yokohama, Rokkaku-Bashi, Kanagawa, Japan
kasahara@cpnx2.b6.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (NeXT mail welcome)
From: rbz@eversoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Re: sybase...NT server, NEXTSTEP clients
Date: 21 May 1995 12:18:38 GMT
Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc (login info (214/705-2901 - 817/571-0400))
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pnb2u$5oj@feenix.metronet.com>
References: <3pj4ds$31u@shelob.afs.com>
Keywords: nextstep sybase nt sql
mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack) wrote:
>Has anyone had experience running an environment with a Sybase server on
>Windows/NT and NEXTSTEP clients? If so, what were setup, configuration, and
>performance like?
That is what we have been using for over a year! We use MS-SQL 4.21 running
on NT 3.1/3.5. It works great. We are using it to develop against. Performance
is fine but we only have 4 or 5 people hitting it at once.
---
Rodger (NeXTMail & MIME Welcome!)
-----------------------------------------------------------
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Everest Software Corporation Work (214) 437-7636
4347 W. Northwest Hwy, #851 Fax (214) 437-7600
Dallas, TX 75220-3864 Home (214) 517-4884
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From: cadilhac@arles.univ-rennes1.fr (Nicolas Cadilhac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: Problems in forwarding mails
Date: 19 May 1995 10:19:03 GMT
Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France
Message-ID: <3phran$hjr@news.univ-rennes1.fr>
Hello,
I want to forward some mails to another account, but just from some
people. I'm trying to use procmail.
If someone uses procmail, please help me.
My mails are not forwarded at all. Here is my .forward :
"|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail cadilhac"
Here is my .procmailrc :
PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mailboxes/Active.mbox
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
:0 c
* ^From.*@*enserb*
#* ^Subject:.*compilers
! me@arles.univ-rennes1.fr
:0 A
enserbSave
I receive the mail on my account, but me don't receive it !
Thanks for any help
--
Nicolas Cadilhac
----------------
INSERM CJF 90-12
Clinique neurologique
Hopital Pontchaillou
35033 Rennes Cedex
From: sahirns@menger.stevens-tech.edu (Sahir N. Siddiqui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmiWeb thoesn't read Gifs
Date: 21 May 1995 17:35:24 GMT
Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology, Hoboken, NJ
Message-ID: <SAHIRNS.95May21133524@menger.stevens-tech.edu>
References: <3pf6sf$ugn@khyber.ncc.up.pt> <1995May19.092519.44824@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
In-reply-to: frank@ifi.unibas.ch's message of 19 May 95 09:25:19 MET
In article <1995May19.092519.44824@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch writes:
Luis Miguel Pinho <deec30> wrote:
>Hi.
>I recently downloaded OmniWeb and it doesn't read Gifs.
>Is there a reason? How can I make it read the Gif's?
>Is there a WWW browser who reads them?
All you need is OmniImage.app! Also available on the archives. This is the
part which will actually display all not-built-in images.
------
Actually, you probably will need OmniImageFilter as well if you don't
already have it.
-s
--
Sahir N. Siddiqui Res: (201) 217-0952
S-1351 Castle Point Station, Hoboken NJ 07030 ))))
oo-)
Email: sahirns@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu :_/
From: Yibing Wu <yibwu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Smart Field...
Date: 21 May 1995 18:34:51 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <3po14b$q9t@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does any one know anything about an object, derived from either Text or
TextField, can do field validation, e.g. digits only, generate SS# format,
etc.?
I've heard someone mentioned that there is a product out there, called "Smart
Field" which does exactly what I am hoping for. However, I have no clue at all
where I can find the vendor.
Any hint would be appreciated!
P.S. Please don't mail me, we don't have DNS papa yet. Just post, will you?
Thanks,
Yibing Wu
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 22 May 1995 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3pp34e$bkk@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
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This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Smart Field...
Date: 21 May 1995 22:58:20 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3poukc$b1q@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3po14b$q9t@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
Yibing Wu <yibwu> writes
> Does any one know anything about an object, derived from either Text or
> TextField, can do field validation, e.g. digits only, generate SS# format,
> etc.?
>
> I've heard someone mentioned that there is a product out there, called "Smart
> Field" which does exactly what I am hoping for. However, I have no clue at
all
> where I can find the vendor.
>
> Any hint would be appreciated!
>
There is a version of something that does this available at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Vendors/M_Onyschuk_and_Associates_Inc/OATextFieldPal
ette.950321.s.gnutar.gz
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Vendors/M_Onyschuk_and_Associates_Inc/OATextFieldPal
ette.950321.s.gnutar.gz_README
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From: wadelich@ainet.com (Wade Lich)
Subject: SLIP for Intel NeXTSTEP 3.2
Message-ID: <D8ytyu.L8y@ainet.com>
Sender: news@ainet.com
Organization: NONE
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 05:59:18 GMT
Can anyone tell me were I can beg, borrow, or steal a WORKING copy
of SLIP software for the INTEL platform????? ;(
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
Wade Lich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wadelich@ainet.com (Wade Lich)
Subject: Re: ppp compatible with slip?
Message-ID: <D8ytpE.L44@ainet.com>
Sender: news@ainet.com
Organization: NONE
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950516185653.28287B-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 05:53:38 GMT
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950516185653.28287B-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>, Lucas Lay <eaeu899@taurus.oac.uci.edu> says:
>
>does any body know whether i could use ppp to connect to a server that
>uses slip? all the docs i've read said that ppp is a better protocol than
>slip, but that doesn't mean it's compatible with slip... or does it?
>thanx in advance.
Sorry, two different protocols. Depending on tour needs, I've found that
SLIP is faster than PPP. I mostly do character bases FTP/mail.
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCSA HTTPD v1.4 for the NeXT
Date: 22 May 95 14:58:24 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.801154704@coricopat>
References: <3pilod$bap@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
cbohn@vt.edu (Christopher Bohn) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is a precompile binary for the NeXT of
>NCSA's HTTPD v1.4? If so, where can I find it? I know where a binary
>is for v1.3, but v1.4 is not there. NCSA's ftp site doesn't even have
>the source code anymore, so I can't try to compile it myself. If anyone
>knows where I might find either the binary or source for this version,
>or even any other better HTTPD application, please let me know.
But yes, there is source.
It's just not that easy to find. Look again :-)
I haven't tried to compile it yet, but from my experience
from the previous versions, it should be plug and play.
Kind regards,
Chris
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From: mtacchi@next.com (Mark G. Tacchi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTIME and .avi file formats
Date: 22 May 1995 17:56:37 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pqj8l$lv1@news.next.com>
References: <3pkjgd$eek@news.panix.com>
In article <3pkjgd$eek@news.panix.com> eb@marcus (Eric Bergerson) writes:
# NEXTIME seems to have registered the ".avi" extension,
# since .avi files show up as a videotape in file viewer and
# NEXTIME gets launched if you double-click an .avi file.
#
# I didn't expect that NEXTIME supports .avi files, nor did
# it successfully show the file I tried to open.
#
# 1.) Can NEXTIME view .avi movies? Is it NEXTIME or my
# file?
#
# 2.) Why, if it can't display .avi movies, does NEXTIME,
# register the extensions?
This is a known bug with NEXTIME.app. It registers for the avi extension but
wasn't designed to handle this format.
-=Mark
From: Timothy Lee <timothy@perca.umd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: oracle/sysbase engine for NeXTStep
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 12:46:31 -0400
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950522124253.8284C-100000@perca.umd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi there :)
I heard that NeXT/Intel v3.1 came with a sybase dbase engine. Can anyone
validate this? Also, if this is true, can anyone suggest where I may be
able to get a copy of it. Also, any recommendation to working with
database engine in NeXT OS is greately appreciated.
Please send email to timothy@perca.umd.edu
Thank you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: NCSA HTTPD v1.4 for the NeXT
References: <3pilod$bap@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <3pj86q$pc0@firehose.mindspring.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 07:32:30 GMT
Message-ID: <1995May22.073230.8177@proximus.north.de>
In article <3pj86q$pc0@firehose.mindspring.com>,
Jeffrey A. Sickel <deviant@sagerrak> wrote:
>cbohn@vt.edu (Christopher Bohn) wrote:
[...]
>>NCSA's HTTPD v1.4?
[...]
>Why bother with the NCSA's. Grab the Cern 3.0 server and you'll be up
>and running in no time.[...]
However, the CERN server does not support inlines.
You might also want to check apache, an ecen more feature rich server.
For a discussion, see comp.www.servers.unix.
Gerhard.
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From: Yibing Wu <yibwu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Smart Field...
Date: 22 May 1995 20:34:38 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <3pqsgu$np8@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
References: <3po14b$q9t@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Another clue to the last request is, the company built and selling the
"SmartField" object is called "Objective Technology, Inc.", somewhere in New
York.
See "SunExpert", 06/94 Vol 5
Please help!
Again, don't mail to me, 'cause there is no DNS running yet.
Thanks,
Yibing Wu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Looking for MusicKit
Message-ID: <D900In.4H1@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3plhbs$j3o@clarknet.clark.net>
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 21:18:23 GMT
Harrison Consulting (harrison@clark.net) wrote:
: Can someone please point me to the MusicKit? I think it is at
: Stanford someplace.
The FTP site is ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu
--Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: oracle/sysbase engine for NeXTStep
Message-ID: <D900xK.5CK@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950522124253.8284C-100000@perca.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 21:27:20 GMT
Timothy Lee (timothy@perca.umd.edu) wrote:
: I heard that NeXT/Intel v3.1 came with a sybase dbase engine. Can anyone
: validate this? Also, if this is true, can anyone suggest where I may be
: able to get a copy of it. Also, any recommendation to working with
: database engine in NeXT OS is greately appreciated.
Intel NeXTSTEP has never come with Sybase server. It does come with all
the client stuff, though, in /usr/sybase, and DBKit adaptors.
Sybase server came with NeXTSTEP only up to version 2.1 (or 3.0?) of the OS.
Check out StepWise's WWW site (http://stepwise.com) for info on database
products available for NeXTSTEP.
--Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Smart Field...
Message-ID: <D9013A.5sJ@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3po14b$q9t@taquito.abq.bdm.com> <3pqsgu$np8@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 21:30:46 GMT
Yibing Wu (yibwu) wrote:
: Another clue to the last request is, the company built and selling the
: "SmartField" object is called "Objective Technology, Inc.", somewhere in New
: York.
Try info@object.com or 1-800-3OBJECT to get ahold of Objective Technologies
Inc. They make SmartFieldPalette.
--Chris
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any of these conditions:
[...]
I did, but the problem seems a little peculiar in that emacs runs fine with
the GUI interface, but not when run from a shell. So I thought I'd check
with y'all to see if there was a quick fix and thus avoid the xx MB
download, recompilation, and installation.
> Emacs for NeXTstep 4.1 binary distribution should work on all NS3.3
> (user) systems and I've had success reports from a variety of other
> systems going back as far as 3.0. There have also been reports
> now of Emacs crashing on some NS3.2 machines. _HOWEVER_ an Emacs
> compiled and dumped on your machine _will_ run on your machine
> regardless of what version of NS 3.[x] you are using.
Anyway, I ended up downloading the source, compiling, etc. and just
replaced the emacs executable. It runs without problems, just as you said.
Dale
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From: steve@deltos.uucp (Steven R. Staton)
Subject: Improv under NS 3.3
Message-ID: <D903Iu.Jvo@deltos.uucp>
Organization: Deltos Fleet Computing
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 22:23:17 GMT
Is it just me, or does Improv fail to run under NS 3.3? I am getting a bus
error when opening existing documents.
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTIME and .avi file formats
Date: 22 May 1995 23:59:20 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.
Message-ID: <3pr8go$oi3@aura.cu.soltec.com>
References: <3pkjgd$eek@news.panix.com>
eb@marcus (Eric Bergerson) writes:
By the way, your From: address is wrong. It should be a FQDN.
>NEXTIME seems to have registered the ".avi" extension,
>since .avi files show up as a videotape in file viewer and
>NEXTIME gets launched if you double-click an .avi file.
Therefore, one would expect the app to read the files.
>I didn't expect that NEXTIME supports .avi files, nor did
>it successfully show the file I tried to open.
Why not expect it? If it registers the file extension and does
nothing with the file, I'd say that's a bug.
>1.) Can NEXTIME view .avi movies? Is it NEXTIME or my
>file?
From what I see, no.
>2.) Why, if it can't display .avi movies, does NEXTIME,
>register the extensions?
I'd say because it's buggy.
Since it's only got a couple of entries in it, here's my buglist for
the app:
- open a movie that is smaller than the smallest allowable NEXTIME
movie window, select cmd-] (to get a larger window) then cmd-[ (to get
a smaller window) and the window returns to the right size, but the
movie is now squashed--the original aspect ratio is not preserved.
However, if you open a movie and size it to large (cmd-]) then drag
the window (with the standard NS window resize bar) to small (it
should jump to small after some movement approaching the small size),
it will resize keeping the movie's original aspect ratio.
- opening an AVI file does nothing. The app has an icon for .avi but
does not actually seem to read single-file AVI's. If the app doesn't
support AVI files, it shouldn't register an icon for the .avi
extension.
From: Yibing Wu <yibwu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is Emacs.app a freeware?
Date: 22 May 1995 18:23:24 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <3pqkqs$lab@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Can someone tell me that?
If it is, is there a site that I can ftp it?
thanks,
Please, do NOT reply by mail, we don't have DNS, yet.
Thanks,
Yibing Wu
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NCSA HTTPD v1.4 for the NeXT
Date: 22 May 1995 23:42:08 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3prlig$lk9@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <1995May22.073230.8177@proximus.north.de>
Gerhard Moeller writes
> In article <3pj86q$pc0@firehose.mindspring.com>,
> Jeffrey A. Sickel <deviant@sagerrak> wrote:
> >cbohn@vt.edu (Christopher Bohn) wrote:
> [...]
> >>NCSA's HTTPD v1.4?
> [...]
> >Why bother with the NCSA's. Grab the Cern 3.0 server and you'll be up
> >and running in no time.[...]
>
> However, the CERN server does not support inlines.
> You might also want to check apache, an ecen more feature rich server.
> For a discussion, see comp.www.servers.unix.
And Apache 0.6.4 compiles under 3.2 without changes. It has alot of
nifty features.
http://www.hyperreal.com/apache
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From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv under NS 3.3
Date: 23 May 1995 03:41:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Message-ID: <3prlhi$a32@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <D903Iu.Jvo@deltos.uucp>
In article <D903Iu.Jvo@deltos.uucp>,
Steven R. Staton <steve@deltos.uucp> wrote:
>Is it just me, or does Improv fail to run under NS 3.3? I am getting a bus
>error when opening existing documents.
You may want to double check that if your documents use custom fonts,
that they also be installed. This happened to me when upgrading on
a prior version of NS.
Ken
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Header Viewer blowing up!
Message-ID: <jpanicoD908Dn.I5A@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 00:08:10 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom3.netcom.com
Hi,
Has anyone else seen this?
My setup:
NS Intel 3.3 w/ developer 3.3.
Through preferences I added eoaccess.h and eointerface.h to Header Viewer.
Header Viewer is, for the most part, working properly except that when
working with any of the EOF documentation Header Viewer crashes about
5 times/hour.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
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From: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wordperfect upgrades from 1.0? *FOLLOWUP*
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 22:27:41 +0200
Organization: WHU Koblenz
Message-ID: <roeckelein-2205952227410001@mars.wi.whu-koblenz.de>
References: <3p912m$fet@news.primenet.com> <3pc3l2$j7r@news.primenet.com>
In article <3pc3l2$j7r@news.primenet.com>, rworne@primenet.com wrote:
>In <3p912m$fet@news.primenet.com>, rworne@primenet.com writes:
>>I've aquired a shrinkwrapped version of WP 1.0 (not 1.0.1) for my Cube and
>>It's pretty damn buggy. At least when it crashes, it doesn't take the whole
>>system with it.
>>
>>Anyway, where can I either:
>>1. Patch this puppy to 1.0.1
>>2. Get the latest version (above)
>>
>>Things are getting a bit confusing with Novell aquiring Wordperfect and all.
>>
>>(Include phone # for WP/Novell if you got it, my docs don't include it).
>
>A bit of followup...
>
>A call to WP/Novell was unproductive, they have no more versions to ship &
>according to them, even the master disks are gone.
>
>Even more unbelieveable, they informed me to find someone who has the
>latest version and get it from them. Wierd, but true.
>
>So, does anyone have a set (note: before sending flames about piracy, I CAN
>document that I am a legal licensee...) of WordPerfect 1.0.1?
There are two 1.0.1 version, one does not handle e.g. the keyboard
shortcut for bold correctly.
The version dated 18 Feb 1992 has this error.
If you get the newer version, could you please drop me a note.
I have been so far unsuccesful in aquiring the newer version.
Wolfgang Roeckelein
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From: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Emacs.app a freeware?
Date: 23 May 1995 05:02:57 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3prqa1$3tr@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <3pqkqs$lab@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
In article <3pqkqs$lab@taquito.abq.bdm.com>, Yibing Wu <yibwu> wrote:
> Can someone tell me that?
> If it is, is there a site that I can ftp it?
Emacs.app is derived from GNU Emacs and as such is covered by the GPL
regardless of the wishes of the author. Not that the author would
want it to be anything but freely available in source and binary form
in any case.
You can get the various package in the US from these URLs:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/editors/Emacs_for_NeXTstep_4.1.README
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/editors/Emacs_for_NeXTstep_4.1.pkg.NIHS.b.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources/editors/Emacs_for_NeXTstep_4.1.src.NIHS.s.tar.gz
In Europe you probably want to use these:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/editor/Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.1.README
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/editor/Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.1.s.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/editor/Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz
Note that both the binary and source release are over 7.5 MBytes in
size. If you are unsure which to get, read the readme file first.
Carl Edman
From: murphy@wsc.com (Paul Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Single bay open/save panels
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 22 May 1995 21:39:02 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MURPHY.95May22173902@eos.wsc.com>
Somehow I managed to bring my open/save panels down to a single bay. I
now cannot get back to multi-bay panels! While still workable, I feel
like I'm using a bad X app when I have use them. Any hints to help get
things back to normal would be appreciated.
Thanks.
- Paul Murphy
From: peter@mathworks.com (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Improv under NS 3.3
Date: 23 May 1995 11:19:52 GMT
Organization: The MathWorks, Inc., Natick, MA 01760
Message-ID: <3psgco$g7d@turing.mathworks.com>
References: <D903Iu.Jvo@deltos.uucp>
Steven R. Staton (steve@deltos.uucp) wrote:
: Is it just me, or does Improv fail to run under NS 3.3? I am getting a bus
: error when opening existing documents.
Nope, I think it's you.... :)
Improv runs just fine under 3.3 (moto). Could it be something
else ?
-p
From: danie@nxtvad.core.org.za (Danie Malan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SmartField / Text validation palettes
Date: 23 May 1995 10:46:59 GMT
Organization: PiX - Proxima information X-change
Message-ID: <3psef3$e28@foxbat.pix.za>
Keywords: text validation palette
>Does any one know anything about an object, derived from either Text or
>TextField, can do field validation, e.g. digits only, generate SS#
>format, etc.?
Try OATextFieldPalette at
ftp.stepwise.com:/pub/Vendors/M_Onyschuk_and_Associates_Inc.
It worked for us !
Danie Malan
MS CAIRO = NT + OPENSTEP !
From: Charles Ashley <71333.624@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mbone apps for NS?
Date: 20 May 1995 19:10:53 GMT
Organization: MatriX Publishing Network
Message-ID: <3plert$s1s$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
Hi -
Anyone know of any Mbone apps for NeXTSTEP? NS 3.3 now supports
mrouted, but what about the apps? Anyone working on anything?
TIA
Charles
charlesa@mpn.com
From: andersvi@ulrik.uio.no (Anders Vinjar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Emacs.app a freeware?
Date: 23 May 1995 08:46:13 GMT
Organization: NoTAM - Norwegian Network for Technology, Acoustics and Music
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In-reply-to: Yibing Wu's message of 22 May 1995 18:23:24 GMT
|> Can someone tell me that? If it is, is there a site that I can
|> ftp it?
you can find it at:
ftp://lynx.ps.uci.edu/pub/NeXT/emacs-19-for-NeXTstep
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From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Is there a Voice recognition app for NS Intel ?
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Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:40:11 GMT
Hi all,
I heard about SimonSays for the Motorola and that is exactly the kind of
software that I'm looking for, only for Intel !
Does anyone know anything about such an app ?
Thanks a lot
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Switzerland
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: help for a keyboard driver
In-Reply-To: rosehnal@medinf.mu-luebeck.de's message of 16 May 1995 15:07:25 +0200
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Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3pa82d$5cu@gwsun.medinf.mu-luebeck.de>
Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 06:19:00 GMT
The Microsoft Natural keyboard just works. You don't need a driver. If you're
looking to take advantage of the special keys, your temporarily out of luck.
Keyboard.app in /NextDeveloper/Demos should help you define a keymapping.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: michael@mvhome (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmiWeb thoesn't read Gifs
Date: 19 May 1995 11:39:16 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3pi014$b9k@corporate.hesta.com>
References: <3pf6sf$ugn@khyber.ncc.up.pt> <3pg4ob$po5@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) wrote:
>On 18 May 1995 10:17:51 GMT Luis Miguel Pinho (deec30) wrote:
> >Hi.
> >I recently downloaded OmniWeb and it doesn't read Gifs.
> >Is there a reason? How can I make it read the Gif's?
Get OmniImageFilter and OmniImage ... it's seemingly more stable for
me with all three in place...
From: par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing rtf files
Date: 18 May 1995 14:41:51 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Message-ID: <3pg7tv$qmg@Venus.mcs.com>
Is there some command line tool to convert RTFs to Postscript or just
to print them? Online documentations is a nice idea, but it means that
I have to have 2 computers, 1 to work on and 1 to read documentation on
since the documentation pages fill the screen (and aren't usefull if
sized smaller)
Peter Richardson
par@mcs.com
From: sirius@interconnect.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Oracle on black hardware - problems with NS 3.3
Date: Wed, 24 May 95 19:14:43 PDT
Organization: Interconnect Australia
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Regarding: Oracle 6 problems on NEXTSTATION
Oracle Version: Oracle 6.0.33.2.1 ( for NEXTSTEP 2.1 )
Hardware: NEXT Station Motorola
Operating System: NEXTSTEP 3.3
Please email any replies to: sirius@interconnect.com.au
I am running an version 6 of Oracle on a an old NeXTStation, and have done so
successfully until I upgraded the NEXTSTEP Operating system from version 3.2 to
3.3 ( even though the Oracle version was developed for NEXTSTEP 2.1 )
With the NEXTSTEP upgrade which I belive had some upgrades of the Mach Kernel,
I suddenly had problems with the Oracle database.
This was obvious just running the SQL*DBA application as the following
transscript displays:
SQL*DBA: Version 6.0.33.2.1 - Production on Sat May 20 09:48:59 1995
Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1979, 1989. All rights reserved.
ORACLE RDBMS V6.0.33.2.1 - Production
SQLDBA> connect system/polarbear1
ORA-09751: pw_attachPorts: server call pws_attach failed.
SQLDBA>
The console output was:
May 20 09:49:21 localhost (Oracle helper)[1082]: pws_attach(oracle) fails for
process 5, port rights still out
I have tried to reinstall the Oracle from scratch but no improved result.
One thing I noticed in the reinstallation that the 'pws.daemon' (which is the
(Oracle helper) process ) was not relinked as most of the other executables in
the $(ORACLE_HOME)/bin directory had been !!
Is anybody still using Oracle on NEXTStations out there and have they any
problems with it running 3.3 of NEXTSTEP.
Any help would be appreciated !!!
Please email direct to sirius@interconnect.com.au
Regards
Michael
From: "Someone@Somewhere" <eaeu899@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with ProSpectrum 16
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 02:30:35 -0700
Organization: University of California, Irvine
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I have a 486 PC running NS 3.2--the ProAudio Spectrum 16-- it kind of
works--it's just that every time I play a sound more than one second long,
the sound will be interrupted with very lound "PSSSST!!!" sounds. The
interesting thing is that it doesn't do that if I remove the dpt pm2022
SCSI card and use my IDE drive instead-- everything is just normal! No
interruptive blasts--everything just works. Notice that my motherboard has
three buses: ISA, EISA, and VL-BUS. Could this problem be becaused by the bus
configuration? or is there a conflict between dpt pm2022 and PAS 16? Any
ideas?
From: Jonathan.Rice@cs.tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TeXView-Gray Sizing?
Date: 24 May 1995 14:20:46 GMT
Organization: TCD, Computer Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3pvfbu$ebs@yaler.cs.tcd.ie>
I just downloaded the version of TeXView which does anti-aliased fonts:
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tex/texview_gray.tar.gz
However, the programme is acting very strangely. Whenever I select that I
want gray-level fonts, the page rescales drastically towards the
lower-left, and actually manages to crop off a strip at the bottom.
Increasing the dpi brings the size back up again, but clipping problems
soon arise. Is this thing just broken, or is there hope?
-- Jonathan Rice
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From: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Re: Spiderwoman woes
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Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 20:25:59 GMT
: SpiderWoman is not crappy; it looks like an excellent program, from my
: first looks. It requires either NeXTSTEP 3.3, or a combination of NS 3.2
: and EOF 1.0 installed.
Is that to say that it can run with straight 3.3... ie. no EOF installed?
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From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mpeg audio player? (.map files)
Date: 25 May 1995 11:07:51 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
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zet@rupert.franken.de (Juergen Zeller) writes:
> In article <3p6186$eh2@news.next.com> grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) writes:
>> Is there an mpeg audio player for NEXTSTEP? I just grabed
>> GISO 3.3, but it doesn't seem to handle them.
> Try ftp://fhginfo.fhg.de/pub/layer3/, there is also a FAQ in it.
Also get maplay from ftp.iuma.com - I ported this to the NeXT some time ago.
-bat.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ppp compatible with slip?
Date: 25 May 1995 11:08:47 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
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References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950516185653.28287B-100000@taurus.oac.uci.edu>
Lucas Lay <eaeu899@taurus.oac.uci.edu> writes:
> does any body know whether i could use ppp to connect to a server that
> uses slip? all the docs i've read said that ppp is a better protocol than
> slip, but that doesn't mean it's compatible with slip... or does it?
> thanx in advance.
No, they are incompayible protocols. You will need to get hold of Sl/IP for
your NeXT somehow, or else find a provider who uses PPP.
-bat.
From: adm2@sarc.city.ac.uk (Alan Messer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Stealth DRAM driver??
Date: 24 May 1995 10:52:55 GMT
Organization: Systems Architecture Research Centre, City University, London, England.
Distribution: world
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References: <3pcr92$ari@utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl> <3pdghh$g3r@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
Hi,
Martin Michlmayr (tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at) wrote:
: Ewoud Meijer (meijerj@cs.utwente.nl) wrote:
: / I want to use NS on a 486DX80,16MB with a stealth64 2MB dram. Now I hear
: / from my friends that NS does not support dram but needs at least 2 MB vram.
: / is it already possible to use the 2 MB dram version with NS??
: No. It`s not supported. Sorry.
: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1782.htmld/1782.html:
: / DRAM-based cards (Diamond Stealth 64) are not supported.
Just to clear things up a little. The S3 Generic driver on NeXTAnswers DOES
indeed support the Diamond Stealth PCI 64 2Meg DRAM card (I am using it
right now). Just install it through the Installer.app and it all works great.
NOTE: Since Diamond have a habit of subtly changing their card's spec.
this may not work on all PCI DRAM Stealth cards..
Alan.
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From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Recommendations for WYSIWYG web authoring app?
Date: 25 May 1995 07:05:04 +0100
Organization: P & L Systems
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References: <D90723.6sE@research.canon.oz.au>
In article <D90723.6sE@research.canon.oz.au> luke@research.canon.oz.au
(Luke Kendall) writes:
> Can anyone recommend a good web authoring tool? By `good', I mean it
> should be WYSIWYG (so you wouldn't normally see the HTML codes), it
> should allow easy construction of hypertext links, and probably allow
> pasting in of RTF text, and of course images.
>
> I've had a look at some tools (not on the NeXT) - like tkHTML and
> asWedit but they don't really meet the above criteria.
Pages, without a doubt. I am not sure if you are supposed to contact
Pages or ITS, at this point, for more information, but take a look at
http://www.pages./com/.
Paul
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From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Subject: Simple statistical app needed
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Hello!
I'm looking for a simple statistical application in which I can enter in data
like a spreadsheet, do least-squares regression, and make simple plots.
Any ideas?
Thank in advance!
Michael
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From: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Emacs.app a freeware?
Date: 23 May 1995 15:31:03 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
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References: <3pqkqs$lab@taquito.abq.bdm.com> <3ps7cl$mge@hermod.uio.no>
In article <3ps7cl$mge@hermod.uio.no>, Anders Vinjar <andersvi@ulrik.uio.no> wrote:
> |> Can someone tell me that? If it is, is there a site that I can
> |> ftp it?
>
> you can find it at:
>
> ftp://lynx.ps.uci.edu/pub/NeXT/emacs-19-for-NeXTstep
Yes, but please don't use that site. It is a private site for beta
testers only and most of the time contains buggy beta releases. If
you are not a beta tester, _please_ get the public releases from the
major NeXT archive sites. I really am tired of answering bug reports
from some old beta which a non-beta-tester somehow got his hands on.
Carl Edman
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Subject: What's up with Mathmatica?
Date: 25 May 1995 06:58:47 GMT
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Just wondering here, I am an academic user of a NeXT Cube, and from
what I have seen, Mathmatica (2.0) is supposed to be bundled with the
computer. I have not seen this. Is Wolfram still honoring this?
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From: gwillem@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (WILLEM VAN SCHAIK (INTERNET: GWILLEM@NTUVAX.NTU.AC.SG))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ImageViewer lauched together with OmniImage
Date: 24 May 95 09:06:31 +0800
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Message-ID: <1995May24.090631@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
Hi,
After having used ImageViewer already for a couple of years I recently
installed OmniImageFilter and OmniImage too. When I set OmniImage as
the default application for for example GIF or TIFF images, the strange
thing happens that when you double-click a bitmap file, ImageViewer is
launched too and appears as an icon at the bottom of the screen. To
avoid misunderstandings: OmniImage will display the picture, so that
is all OK.
Related question to the OmniImageFilter makers: will you be supporting
the new PNG format soon?
Willem
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From: akore%inforamp.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Turtle Beach (Multisound) Sound Drivers
Date: 20 May 1995 03:54:05 GMT
Organization: InfoRamp Inc., Toronto, Ontario (416) 363-9100
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Keywords: Multisound Sound drivers
I am wondering whether anyone knows of an audio driver for the multisound
card. I already know of the DSP driver included with Musickit 4.1.
Thanks
akore!africa@inforamp.ca
From: Jeff Franco <Jeff_Franco@NOTES.PW.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: No audio input with microphone and Soundblaster..help!
Date: 23 May 1995 21:03:25 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ptiit$r3v@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
My co-workers and I are currently developing an app that requires some audio input.
We are using a standard microphone, Soundblaster card, the sound.app or watchme.app.
Unfortunatly we aren't recording any sound. Our configuration jives with the Soundblaster
specs. Is it my imagination, or is NeXTSTEP on an Intel box a lousy sound device!? If anyone
has had a similiar problem or can offer a solution, please post, it'll be appreciated!!
Thanks,
JF
From: croehrig@sns.cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIDI (Re: NextStep has no support for MPU401, how sad?)
Date: 23 May 1995 21:05:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <3ptin2$muq@cs.ubc.ca>
References: <D8yM42.31q@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <D8yM42.31q@midway.uchicago.edu> ajasvanu@ellis.uchicago.edu
(Atip Asvanund) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I have looked over the hardware compatablity for NextStep
> for Intel a couple of times, but I didn't see MPU401 listed
> as one of the soundcard supported. Why is this? It seems Windows
> 3.11+Dos is the only OS+GUI out there that have support for Roland
> MPU401. Warp, and NextStep is still behind in this field.
>
> Atip Asvanund
From the Release Notes of the Music Kit (obtainable from
ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu):
>This is the first release of Mididriver, the Intel Midi driver
>for the MPU-401 compatible cards such as the Music Quest series
>or the SoundBlaster-16. This driver provides the same functionality
>as the NeXT 3.0 MIDI driver.
The Music Kit is huge, but I've managed to extract the Mididriver and use
it successfully with my Music Quest card to record and playback MIDI
files. Given the multitasking environment, the playback timing is
impressively accurate.
It's pretty rough and there's no GUI, but if there's any interest and it's
ok with CCRMA, I'll put it on the archives (MIDIKit-0.1?).
--
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Dept. of Computer Science, University of British Columbia
2366 Main Mall, Vancouver BC, Canada V6T 1Z4
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases.oracle
From: cmh@spiff.carleton.ca (Colin Henein)
Subject: Oracle inside SoftPC
Message-ID: <D91tCL.F43@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 20:38:45 GMT
I'm trying to determine if SoftPC for NeXTSTEP will allow Omnis 7 (a
front end to oracle in this case) to talk to an Oracle server over
tcp.
Any information on whether this or any other client has ever been able
to do this would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Colin
ps- I'm also looking to get in touch with the Omnis people, of course I
have no idea where to find them, so any information would be a help.
--
=================================+=================================
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From: murphy@wsc.com (Paul Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Single bay open/save panels -- SOLVED
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 23 May 1995 15:06:59 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MURPHY.95May23110659@eos.wsc.com>
References: <MURPHY.95May22173902@eos.wsc.com>
In-reply-to: murphy@wsc.com's message of 22 May 1995 21:39:02 GMT
Many thanks to Kieran Jones for emailing me the solution (something I
thought I tried but obviously didn't):
Reduce the size of the column by holding down the alt key while
making the window (=> browser) smaller.
- Paul
From: michael@hesta2 (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Accounting software?
Date: 25 May 1995 13:13:39 GMT
Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc.
Message-ID: <3q1vq3$26d@corporate.hesta.com>
If anyone is aware of a strong, simle accounting package viable on
NEXSTEP please e-mail me directly.
Thanks!
michael@hesta.com
From: pmartin@landau.ucdavis.edu (Pat Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HOW TO COMPILE libg++-2.6.2
Date: 25 May 1995 13:29:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <3q20ob$fvf@mark.ucdavis.edu>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.programmer ]
[ Author was Pat Martin ]
[ Posted on 25 May 1995 04:41:07 GMT ]
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.misc ]
[ Author was Pat Martin ]
[ Posted on 25 May 1995 04:38:42 GMT ]
I have complied gcc-2.6.3 but there is not a NeXT configure file.
Has anyone done it or know how?
gracia
pc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Spiderwoman woes
Message-ID: <D9524A.BFr@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3pj0uj$80u@dinero.amsa.com> <D8w8BA.2t8@cunews.carleton.ca> <D93nFB.A70@waldo.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 14:40:58 GMT
Matthew Hocker (hocker@waldo.com) wrote:
: : SpiderWoman is not crappy; it looks like an excellent program, from my
: : first looks. It requires either NeXTSTEP 3.3, or a combination of NS 3.2
: : and EOF 1.0 installed.
: Is that to say that it can run with straight 3.3... ie. no EOF installed?
Yup. Works fine on 3.3 (with or without EOF installed). It uses only
Foundation classes, and not EO stuff, as I recall. Foundation comes with 3.3.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
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http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: mike_zemina@wiltel.com (Mike Zemina)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Create TOC for .mbox file?
Date: 25 May 1995 13:54:42 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <3q2272$4eq@gateway.wiltel.com>
I'm wanting to know if there is a way to create a table_of_contents for a .mbox
directory?
If you know, could you reply by email to:
mike_zemina@wiltel.com
Thanks
--
/*Proverb: "Sensible people will see trouble coming
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From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's up with Mathmatica?
Date: 25 May 1995 15:20:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3q278m$4td@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3q19r7$dg2@news.primenet.com>
In article <3q19r7$dg2@news.primenet.com> rworne@primenet.com writes:
>> Just wondering here, I am an academic user of a NeXT Cube, and from
>> what I have seen, Mathmatica (2.0) is supposed to be bundled with the
>> computer. I have not seen this. Is Wolfram still honoring this?
>>
>>
If you bought your cube in the early days , you should find the Mma
discs bundled with the system. After the hardware business is killed, Mma is
no longer bundled.
--
_________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: luke@research.canon.oz.au (Luke Kendall)
Subject: Recommendations for WYSIWYG web authoring app?
Message-ID: <D90723.6sE@research.canon.oz.au>
Sender: news@research.canon.oz.au (Usenet News)
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 23:39:39 GMT
Can anyone recommend a good web authoring tool? By `good', I mean it
should be WYSIWYG (so you wouldn't normally see the HTML codes), it
should allow easy construction of hypertext links, and probably allow
pasting in of RTF text, and of course images.
I've had a look at some tools (not on the NeXT) - like tkHTML and
asWedit but they don't really meet the above criteria.
luke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dsanders@Trimark.com (Doug Sanders)
Subject: Re: SLIP for Intel NeXTSTEP 3.2
Message-ID: <1995May24.163800.16139@trimark.com>
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
References: <D8ytyu.L8y@ainet.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 16:38:00 GMT
In article <D8ytyu.L8y@ainet.com> wadelich@ainet.com (Wade Lich) writes:
>
>
> Can anyone tell me were I can beg, borrow, or steal a WORKING copy
> of SLIP software for the INTEL platform????? ;(
>
> Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Wade Lich
Get TransSys PNI (I use version 1.13... no problems) from:
ftp.cs.orst.edu:/software/NeXT/demos/comm
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From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach (Multisound) Sound Drivers
Date: 26 May 1995 15:16:13 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q4rbt$s9a@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3pjp4t$hqo@inforamp.net>
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Hy,
akore%inforamp.net wrote:
: I am wondering whether anyone knows of an audio driver for the multisound
: card. I already know of the DSP driver included with Musickit 4.1.
I have additional questions. I have installed the DSP Driver from the
Music Kit and a Pro Audio 16 card for Sampling. When the MultiSound
driver is installed, I get kernel panics and halts. Does anyone have
experienced this; which setup (IO-Addr., IRQ...) do you use ?
Is there a driver for the synthesizer section of the MultiSound ?
Thanks ... Alex
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From: jon@churchill.co.uk (Jon Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Omniweb Proxy Support
Date: 25 May 1995 16:24:13 +0100
Organization: Churchill Technology
Message-ID: <3q27et$1d1@rumour.churchill.co.uk>
Does any one know whether Omniweb supports proxies to route WWW through a
firewall ?
Thanks
Jon
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I.T. Sys Admin ============= Fax: +44 81 313 5699
Churchill Technology
15-17 London Rd, Bromley BR1 1DE, UK. Email: jon@churchill.co.uk
* Any views expressed are purely mine and not those of my employer *
From: Yibing Wu <yibwu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Smart Field...
Date: 26 May 1995 12:59:00 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <3q4jak$99a@news.bdm.com>
References: <3po14b$q9t@taquito.abq.bdm.com> <3pqsgu$np8@taquito.abq.bdm.com> <D9013A.5sJ@cunews.carleton.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca
I called up that number, turned out to be a disconnected one.
Is this company still in business?
Thanks,
Yibing Wu
From: phillen@aol.com (PhilLen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS web server
Date: 26 May 1995 10:38:36 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3q4p5c$l2h@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
I'm looking for a web server that will allow commercial transactions. Can
anyone point me towards a source ( commercial, shareware, freeware,
etc...)?
Thanks
Phil
From: Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 26 May 1995 22:15:26 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <3q5jtu$6v3@news.nd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
Does anyone know if there are plans in the pipe line to develop
the NetScape internet browser for the NEXTSTEP ?
Best Regards,
Amir
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: zip with pc and with black
Message-ID: <jpanicoD97H9B.393@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3q56rn$s25@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 22:03:10 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
brendan mcdougall (mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu) wrote:
: hi,
: we have a Cube and an intel box running NS. does anyone know if the new
: iomega zip drives will work with either NS machines? if the configuration
I'm running Zip under NS 3.3 Intel. Works perfectly (so far), I'm
very happy with the product.
: works, are there any tweaks which will make the config run well as
: presumably the zip drivers will not run on NS?
No tweaks are needed. Of course it doesn't run the supplied zip drivers
because those are for Windows and MacOS. But but NS 3.3 (and 3.2 with
the patch) will work with all removable SCSI HDs transparantly-- no
special support is needed, just plug it in.
: thanks,
: brendan mcdougall
: ---------------------------------
: physics dept/brandeis university
: 415 south street
: waltham ma 02154
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
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/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: NeXT Databases
Message-ID: <jpanicoD97HE8.3M2@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <robe0149.801513485@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 22:06:07 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
robe0149@gold.tc.umn.edu wrote:
: Does anyone out there know anything about databases for NeXT systems.
: Vendor so
: ld or something hiding out there on an ftp server. Free stuff would be
: best, bu
: t I would like to know abt anything period.
: Please reply to mrdc@mrdc.lib.umn.edu.
: Joe Robertson
: MRDC
I can recommend the QuickBase server. It is very fast, very reliable
and has both DBKit adaptor and EOF adaptor. It's not very expensive
(roughly $800 for a 3 seat license).
SofDesign Solutions
http://www.Quickbase.com/~sdc
(603) 547-8404
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: sean@posgate.apana.org.au
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Date: 27 May 1995 04:57:19 GMT
Organization: Posgate. APANA in the ACT 06 285 1701
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q6bff$9p9@posgate.apana.org.au>
References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
Organisation: None
In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if NewTek could be convinced to port Lightwave to NS?
>>
>> For those of you NeXTies who haven't seen or used it, Lightwave is a terrific
>> modelling/animation package originally developed for the Amiga, but now
>> available on Windows and Windows NT (where, despite Windoze, LW rocks)
>> and soon on other platforms. (My data is old -- what is the most recent
>> porting news? SGI/Sun?)
>>
>> Ronn Harbin (rharbin@electrotex.com) uses Lightwave for animation in
>> professional video at McNee Productions. He runs LW on an insanely high
>> speed Alpha-based Windows NT box and produces truly amazing results --
>> in no time at all.
Where can I buy it? How much does it cost? I've got an Alpha too, but until
now I've been using POV.
Sean Keogh - Sean@posgate.apana.org.au
From: rworne@primenet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's up with Mathmatica?
Date: 27 May 1995 08:52:48 GMT
Organization: Primenet
Message-ID: <3q6p90$dr7@news.primenet.com>
References: <3q19r7$dg2@news.primenet.com> <3q278m$4td@agate.berkeley.edu> <3q2ag3$5fm@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
In <3q2ag3$5fm@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes:
>In article <3q278m$4td@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
> After the hardware business is killed, Mma is
>>no longer bundled.
>
>Actually, they unbundled it quite a bit earlier than that...not sure
>exactly when, but you could buy black hardware without Mma for a while.
I have mathmatica, it's version 1.0. As far as Wolfram is concerned, I can
always upgrade for $500 or just get it outright for $850. Those are
educational prices by the way. Sheez, not only textbook makers rake
students over the coals.
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From: davep@access2.digex.net (Dave Paige)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation/Modelling Software??
Followup-To: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.raytracing,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.packages.lightwave
Date: 27 May 1995 14:49:35 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: world
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References: <3om3b2$mro$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3oovs2$1oh@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <JASON.95May13161110@fisher.psych.uh.edu> <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk> <3q6bff$9p9@posgate.apana.org.au>
sean@posgate.apana.org.au wrote:
: In article <1995May16.125044.68985@ucl.ac.uk>
: Elric Lak <zcwayhl@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
: >
: >> I wonder if NewTek could be convinced to port Lightwave to NS?
: >>
: >> For those of you NeXTies who haven't seen or used it, Lightwave is a terrific
: >> modelling/animation package originally developed for the Amiga, but now
: >> available on Windows and Windows NT (where, despite Windoze, LW rocks)
: >> and soon on other platforms. (My data is old -- what is the most recent
: >> porting news? SGI/Sun?)
: >>
: >> Ronn Harbin (rharbin@electrotex.com) uses Lightwave for animation in
: >> professional video at McNee Productions. He runs LW on an insanely high
: >> speed Alpha-based Windows NT box and produces truly amazing results --
: >> in no time at all.
: Where can I buy it? How much does it cost? I've got an Alpha too, but until
: now I've been using POV.
: Sean Keogh - Sean@posgate.apana.org.au
If your Alpha box is running Windows NT your're all set. You just need to find
a distributor in you country. Or you could call me at work in the US at
301-942-6800, Washington Professional Systems, we're a Newtek dealer.
Dave Paige
davep@access.digex.net
From: jchong@spnext1.ee.ntu.edu.tw (Jenn-Chau Hung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there any *.avi player on NS/Intel ?
Date: 27 May 1995 13:16:43 GMT
Organization: National Taiwan University
Message-ID: <3q78nr$e5o@netnews.ntu.edu.tw>
Hi,
As title, I remembered that there is a shareware on NS/Intel can
play *.avi file, could anyone tell me where to get it ?
Thanks in advance.
--
Steven Hung | Taiwan NeXT User Group
jchong@speech.ee.ntu.edu.tw (NeXTmail OK) | NTU Speech Recognition Lab
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Spiderwoman woes
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 12:01:50 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950527130150.215AACUw.malc@daneel>
References: <3pj0uj$80u@dinero.amsa.com> <D8w8BA.2t8@cunews.carleton.ca> <D93nFB.A70@waldo.com>
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>: SpiderWoman is not crappy; it looks like an excellent program, from my
>: first looks. It requires either NeXTSTEP 3.3, or a combination of NS 3.2
>: and EOF 1.0 installed.
>
> Is that to say that it can run with straight 3.3... ie. no EOF installed?
>
Yes.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I need a FAT Binary Splitter! Where?
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 12:12:40 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950527131240.215AACUx.malc@daneel>
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Andrew P Drake (adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: The subject says it all - I'm looking for an app to strip only the Motorla
: segment out of a FAT binary. Where can I find one?
: Thanks!
: -Andrew
:
The command-line "app" you want is lipo
Xanthus have created a neat GUI app called Thinner which works a lot better
-- in particular it scans through all the executables in an app and thins
them appropriately. You can get it as part of a bundle of other stuff from
ftp://sics.se/pub/next/xanthus/OW_Extras_1.1.tar.gz
Although none of the apps in the bundle needs a license, I wonder though if
Xanthus really does want to distribute them widely for free? Jesper?
If so, would it be worth uploading them elsewhere? The connection's quick
(I just got the 4.5MB file in 3 minutes) but...
Have fun,
mmalc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bmhahn@poseidon.knoware.nl (Bernhard Hahn)
Subject: Help with Morning Star PPP
Sender: news@knoware.nl (News Account)
Message-ID: <D98vAL.9x8@knoware.nl>
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 16:03:56 GMT
Organization: Knoware Nederland
Hi,
Anyone out there who has experience with setting up a (PPP) connection to
the Internet for a standalone NEXTSTEP Intel system with Morning Star PPP?
The User Guide coming with MST PPP might be very useful for system
administrators or network experts, but it is hard to understand for end
users, it also gives very little attention to NEXTSTEP specific
configuration issues like HostManager etc.
Any information that might help me to get things up and running is highly
appreciated.
Initial state is a 'clean' standalone NS 3.3 Pentium/PCI system, a ZyXEL
1496E+ (soon ZyXEL Elite 2864) modem and the MST PPP 1.4.1.5 package.
1.
2.
3.
..
Final state should be a full dialup access connection to the Point Of
Presence of my access provider.
Many thanks in advance,
Bernhard
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From: alex_s@ix.netcom.com (alexander stewart )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Urgent MST PPP question
Date: 27 May 1995 16:27:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q7jto$fud@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Any one how to setup PPP so that I can
connect to the PPP server and still
ping,ftp and www other host on the network.
(other than the PPP server - which works great!)
Thanks in advance,
Ian
Please reply to this temporary email address.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: NS3.3 and TransSys 1.13?
Message-ID: <jpanicoD98wFp.HnM@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 16:28:37 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom4.netcom.com
Hi,
Has anyone got any version of PNI running under NS 3.3 Intel?
If so, which version and where can I get it.
Thanks for any clues.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for WYSIWYG web authoring app?
In-Reply-To: Paul Lynch's message of 25 May 1995 07:05:04 +0100
Message-ID: <RDL.95May27140113@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <D90723.6sE@research.canon.oz.au> <1995May25.055923.28869@seer.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 18:01:13 GMT
I second that recommendation. I've set up WWW servers for clients and Pages
with WebPages gave me excellent results with a minimum of effort. Contact
info@its.com.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: #9 Motion Graphics Accelerator
In-Reply-To: philip@utstat.toronto.edu's message of 26 May 1995 22:22:06 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95May27140641@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3q5kae$b89@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 18:06:41 GMT
Dell does ship the #9 Imagine 128 which does have a NS 3.3 driver. The 4MB PCI
version should be close in price to the #9 GXE64Pro. i.e. $150 more.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Printing rtf files
In-Reply-To: par@MCS.COM's message of 18 May 1995 14:41:51 -0500
Message-ID: <RDL.95May27141106@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3pg7tv$qmg@Venus.mcs.com>
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 18:11:06 GMT
Yes, it's:
% open -p filename.rtf
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: zip with pc and with black
Date: 26 May 1995 18:32:23 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University
Message-ID: <3q56rn$s25@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
hi,
we have a Cube and an intel box running NS. does anyone know if the new
iomega zip drives will work with either NS machines? if the configuration
works, are there any tweaks which will make the config run well as
presumably the zip drivers will not run on NS?
thanks,
brendan mcdougall
---------------------------------
physics dept/brandeis university
415 south street
waltham ma 02154
From: reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Framemaker
Date: 27 May 1995 13:57:34 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@phakt.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3q83nu$p1g@phakt.usc.edu>
Summary: Anyone using FramMaker with NS 3.3?
Keywords: Frame
I am in desparate need of a wordprocessing app that can handle 200-300 page documents with ease. It is also very important that the program can at least keep up (screen rewrite) with 70wpm without lag.
I thought maybe Frammaker (they have come back onto the NeXT platform???), and even if they haven't how about their product anyway?
Is there any other product? (WriteUp ng at present time for this sort of work)
Any tips much appreciated.
Matthew
--
"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Omniweb Proxy Support
Message-ID: <D99A9x.5ED@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3q27et$1d1@rumour.churchill.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 21:27:33 GMT
Jon Andrews (jon@churchill.co.uk) wrote:
: Does any one know whether Omniweb supports proxies to route WWW through a
: firewall ?
Yes.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: #9 Motion Graphics Accelerator
Date: 26 May 1995 22:22:06 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3q5kae$b89@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Dell now ships its systems with the newer PCI #9 Motion Graphics
Accelerator. They no longer will supply a PCI #9GXE Pro which has a driver
for NS3.3. Is there a NS3.3 driver for the newer graphics card? Any
information would be appreciated...
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: f92-hst@byse.nada.kth.se (Henrik Stĺhl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to build Satan 1.1.1 on NS 3.3
Date: 27 May 1995 20:16:30 GMT
Message-ID: <3q81au$dm0@news.kth.se>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I would like information on how to build Satan om my NS/FIP system,
or a pointer to such information.
Thanks,
Henrik Stahl
Royal Institute of Technology
Stockholm, Sweden
f92-hst@nada.kth.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: nxcube.augusta.de!olli (Oliver Nissen)
Subject: CSLIP-package
Message-ID: <D93KDn.23q@nxcube.augusta.de>
Sender: olli@nxcube.augusta.de (Oliver Nissen)
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 19:20:10 GMT
I'm looking for a CSLIP-package for the black hardware that supports
NS 3.3. I'd be interested in getting information about commercial and
free products. Maybe you can recommend a certain CSLIP-solution, which
you probably tested yourself. If you think, you can help me, please
drop me a line.
Oliver Nissen
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Question & bugs in ParaSheet
Date: 27 May 1995 23:26:03 -0700
Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona
Message-ID: <3q951r$2pn@ame2.math.arizona.edu>
I tried to create a schedule and found this bug in ParaSheet:
in any cell if you type "8-11:30 am" (without the quotation marker ")
ParaSheet will shutdown immedately. There is no any error message
shown in the Console.
Is this only occurred in my machine or everyone else? I think this
is a serious bug, since you have no any chance to backup your work.
Also does anybody know how to a cell's background colorful?
Yuwen
From: charlesa@mpn.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.groupware.lotus-notes.misc
Subject: NeXT notes client?
Date: Thu, 25 May 95 15:08:39 gmt
Organization: BTnet, BT Public Internet Service
Message-ID: <NEWTNews.801414645.1016.charlesa@stratos.mpn.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi all -
Does anyone know if a NeXTSTEP client for Lotus Notes exists? If not, is
anybody working on one?
TIA,
Charles.
PS. Please reply to charlesa@mpn.com
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Accounting software?
Date: 25 May 1995 15:47:43 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3q28qv$ku7@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3q1vq3$26d@corporate.hesta.com>
In article <3q1vq3$26d@corporate.hesta.com> michael@hesta2 (Michael
Verruto) writes:
:If anyone is aware of a strong, simle accounting package viable on
:NEXSTEP please e-mail me directly.
There are two accounting-related applicatons for NEXTSTEP, CheckSum and
QuantaFlow. CheckSum is similar to Quicken in its funcitonality. It is
useful as a personal finance manager. QuantaFlow is a full blown business
accounting package (which we use here at OpenSource for our accounting).
Below my signature, I have included more information about these products.
Both are available here at OpenSource. Call, fax, or email for more info.
Garrett L. Rice
OpenSource, Inc.
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
303.861.2393 FAX
garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
====================================
QUANTAFLOW INFORMATION
====================================
QuantaFlow version 1.3 Specifications
The SUMERIS TM Accounting System is a series of seamlessly integrated
modules providing real-time accounting and business management software.
It runs on all computer platforms using the NeXTSTEP operating system.
Designed in a multi-threaded client/server architecture, it supports
multiple network users and distributed information is made available to
all client applications anywhere in a network.
QuantaFlow is the central module of the SUMERIS Accounting System. It is
a complete accounting package including general and subsidiary ledgers,
accounts receivable, accounts payable and extended reporting capabilities.
QuantaFlow comes standard with:
QuantaFlow, the main application
QuantaAdmin, an application used to manage databases creation and
other administrative tasks.
QuantaServer, a multi-threaded database server
QuantaReport, a graphic module used to produce and customize
reports.
QuantaServer, database server
- client/server architecture allowing concurrent multi-user network access
- multi-threaded database server allowing dynamic databases creation
- QuantaAdmin creates and configures a default accounting on just a few
clicks
- database integrity enforced at the server level
- self-maintained database: the server automatically expands the database
as it grows.
- server easily started/stopped with QuantaAdmin.
Companies/General Configuration
- any number of company accountings can be created and simultaneously
opened
- each company owns a distinct database and accounting configuration
- unlimited number of users
- each database (company) has its own access control list
- copy/paste data from/to any company
- multi-fiscal-years, user definable fiscal-year period (can be of any
length)
- user definable periods (month, quarter...)
- transactions can be imported/exported from/to an ASCII (text) file
General Ledger
- unlimited number of accounts
- 6 classes of accounts: Assets, Capital, Liabilities, Revenue, Expense,
Internal
- 4 types of accounts: General, Accounts Receivable, Accounts Payable,
Other Subsidiary Accounts
- hierarchical chart: "group accounts" can be defined and used as
consolidating accounts
- two presentations: Browser & List
- easy find/create of accounts
- import/export ASCII (text) files
- import chart from another company
- import opening balances from ASCII (text) files
- copy/paste data as ASCII or as record(s)
- pre-loaded all-purpose chart is provided
- real-time current balance
- multi-criteria selection general ledger reports
Subsidiary Ledgers
Accounts Receivable, Accounts Payable, Other Subsidiary Accounts
- unlimited number of accounts
- separate Contact List. Any contact can be specified as any combination
of account types; for instance a contact can be declared as both a client
and a vendor.
- to automate account management, subsidiary accounts information include:
payment type, due days, credit limit, discount days, discount rate...
- related transactions can be linked (e.g. balanced set of
invoices/payments) and made hidden or visible in the reports (for
instance, to show open invoices only)
- real-time current balance
- multi-criteria selection subsidiary ledgers reports
- account activity
- aging report:
. user definable aging schedule
. end-of-period or number of days presentation
- all subsidiary accounts can be mixed in a single report to provide
useful cash flow information
- import/export Contact List
- Any number of notes of any length can be attached to any Contact
- Check Writing and checkbook management
Journals/Transactions
- unlimited number of journals
- 4 categories of journals: General, Cash Receipts & Disbursements, Sales
and Purchases
- accounts can be linked to Journals for easy reference (e.g. a Bank
account to a Bank Journal)
- 4 views of Journals: General, Consolidated, Periodic, Detail
- 3 transaction states: Temporary, Validated, Posted
- Temporary transactions can be used for simulation or projection
- Validated transactions can be updated/deleted at any time
- Posted transactions cannot be changed
- bank reconciliation support
- multi-criteria selection journal reports
- end-of-period posting
Transaction Entry
- unlimited number of transactions
- 12 types of transactions allowing easy and flexible data entry: General
Transaction, Simple Transaction, Invoice, Invoice Payment, Invoice Return,
Invoice Refund, Purchase, Purchase Payment, Purchase Return, Purchase
Refund, Cash Purchase & Check Writing, Cash Sales
- support for purchases/sales discounts
- support for sales tax rate (Sales Tax List)
- support for purchases/sales payment in single payment or multiple
installments
- show real-time open invoices for any subsidiary accounts
- automatic cash receipts & cash disbursements
- automatic re-installment and discount adjustments
- transaction find window
- copy/paste transactions
Financial Statements
- Income Statement
- Balance Sheet
- Statement of Cash Flow
Reports/Printing
- multiple page document support.
- all reports generated from QuantaFlow can be printed directly WYSIWYG or
displayed in a custom report
- reports are customized using a "drag-and-drop" paradigm. For instance, a
"date" object can be dragged from a palette and place anywhere in the
report
- Frame objects can have any number of columns
- columns and rows are mouse-resizable
- support for graphic objects such as: Circles, Rectangles, Text...
- import/export TIFF and EPS files
- any graphics can be made part of the background and visible/invisible
while printing
- Statement Frames are used to produce financial statements
System Requirements:
any computer running the NeXTSTEP operating system
- runs on all NeXT computers running NeXTSTEP (NeXTSTEP versions 3.0 and
higher are supported)
- runs on all PC Compatible computers running NeXTSTEP for Intel
Processors, this includes 486-based and Pentium-based computers
for other computer platforms running NeXTSTEP, please contact us.
Price
QuantaFlow (including QuantaAdmin, QuantaServer and QuantaReport) is
priced $995 per site and includes 1 user-connection
Additional connections may be purchased for $199 per additional
connections
Other Modules of the SUMERIS Accounting System include:
Inventory, Sales and Purchase Order, Payroll (to be available Q3 1994 and
Q4 1994)
====================================
CHECKSUM INFORMATION
====================================
CheckSum is a NEXTSTEP program for the single user or small business owner
who has basic accounting needs. CheckSum tracks expenses, income,
property, and cash. CheckSum provides income statements and balance
sheets, balances your checkbook, and prints checks. CheckSum provides you
with a system for managing various accounts-such as cash, checking,
savings, credit card, property, and equipment-and the ability to
consolidate them into a complete financial picture, either as a balance
sheet or a period-sensitive income statement.
CheckSum offers many time-saving features, such as automatic transfers
between accounts, fast-key category input, memorized transaction for
recurring entries, and quick check printing. CheckSum's input screen is as
easy to use as a checking account register but provides you with the data
that can both inform and guide your financial decisions.
From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What's up with Mathmatica?
Date: 25 May 1995 12:16:03 -0400
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Message-ID: <3q2ag3$5fm@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
References: <3q19r7$dg2@news.primenet.com> <3q278m$4td@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <3q278m$4td@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
After the hardware business is killed, Mma is
>no longer bundled.
Actually, they unbundled it quite a bit earlier than that...not sure
exactly when, but you could buy black hardware without Mma for a while.
-E
From: espie@lotus.ens.fr (Marc Espie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio,comp.sys.sgi.audio,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: tracker on aminet
Date: 28 May 1995 18:28:13 GMT
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France
Message-ID: <3qafbt$on4@nef.ens.fr>
Keywords: protracker, Unix
I've uploaded the latest release of tracker to aminet something like
a week ago.
To those who don't know:
tracker is a module (protracker/older soundtracker only for the time being)
player that works on almost any machine: amiga (obviously) silicon graphics,
sun sparcs, PCs under Linux/FreeBsd, NeXt, hp. The only ones omitted are the Mac
and the ZX81 for obvious reasons of lack of power.
To those who know:
this is version 4.31. It should work better on many machines.
The sparc sound engine, for instance, is much more versatile than it was.
In general all sound engines are faster and easier to understand now.
ALL protracker effects are now implemented, and I haven't found yet any
problem.
tracker is available from wuarchive.wustl.edu, for instance (in
pub/aminet/misc/unix, I think) in source form right now.
Feel free to spread it far and wide (and to crosspost this message to
relevant places), but try to keep AT LEAST the documentation
and a pointer to the sources around.
Bug reports:
DON'T FORGET TO MENTION:
- the version number (4.31)
- the architecture (NeXt, Sparc, sgi...)
I'm a bit fed up with having to ask for clarifications all the time...
bug reports for older versions probably don't mean anything to me now, so
UPGRADE.
Answer through email preferably and WATCH YOUR CROSSPOSTING as I don't read
all these newsgroups.
--
[nosave]<http://acacia.ens.fr:8080/home/espie/index.html>
`Ayuka no koto... suki dayo.' (KOR, Ano Hi ni kaeritai)
`$@0>@n(J $@$N$3$H!<9%$-$@$h!#(J' ($@$"$NF|$K5"$j$?$$(J)(B
Marc Espie (Marc.Espie@ens.fr)
From: scott@ntplx.net (scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q]Using NeXT as RenderMan engine for a Mac
Date: 28 May 1995 13:36:53 GMT
Organization: NETPLEX
Sender: scott@jumbo.ntplx.net
Message-ID: <3q9u9l$hah@jumbo.ntplx.net>
Is it possible to set the NeXT (mine is 3.3 Intel) up as a rendering
engine for jobs created on my Macintosh (using the latest MacRenderMan
with the PRMan TCP network connectivity...)?
scott douglass
scott@ntplx.net
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No audio input with microphone and Soundblaster..help!
Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 15:48:17 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950528164817.215AACUE.malc@daneel>
References: <3ptiit$r3v@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Is it my imagination, or is NeXTSTEP on an Intel box a lousy sound
> device!? If anyone has had a similiar problem or can offer a
> solution, please post,
>
Sometimes you have to play a sound with Sound.app before you can record
anything. A better option is to use Sean Luke's Resound.app, form the
archives, or write your own sound reader using NXSoundIn etc. It's not
clear to me whether it's NSFiP or just the SoundKit that's at fault here --
my suspicion is that it's the SoundKit...
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: andrew@ellcia.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I need a FAT Binary Splitter! Where?
Date: 28 May 1995 17:14:38 +0100
Organization: Arzana Limited
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <D9ApBs.yB@ellcia.demon.co.uk>
References: <950527131240.215AACUx.malc@daneel>
Andrew P Drake (adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
> The subject says it all - I'm looking for an app to strip
> only the Motorla
>
> segment out of a FAT binary. Where can I find one?
> Thanks!
> -Andrew
Or you could try MetroSuction.app from MetroSoft. A lovely little app for
thinning your FAT apps down.
Andrew.
From: "Brian J. Cardanha" <bc2t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compiling gcc 2.6.3 on NS 2.0
Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 16:55:18 -0400
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wjmCAq600VIbR0NEhy@andrew.cmu.edu>
I recently inherited a NeXT cube with cc 1.3.6, and I would very
much like to upgrade it, but can't seem to get it to work. I tried
compiling 2.5.8, which would die when it tried to run enquire. And
throughout the compile I was getting -traditional-ccp invalid flags
warnings. So I was told to try 2.6.3.
I got the same flag errors, so I sitched the flags to -traditional, and
I don't get the flag warnings, but now I get all sorts of parse errors
in standard lib files when it includes cccp.c.
Can anyone tell me what's wrong with it now? And help would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian Cardanha
bc2t@andrew.cmu.edu
From: lwallyci@onramp.net (Leslie Connally)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep on SunSparc Question
Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 16:11:13 -0600
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <lwallyci-2805951611130001@dal03.onramp.net>
Does anyone know (is it even released yet ?!?!) if the new NeXTStep for
Sparc will run on older Sparcs (ie, my IPX).
thanks
(I'm Unix stupid, and NeXT would make it alot easier than openwindows!)
Leslie Connally
lwallyci@onramp.net
From: robe0149@gold.tc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Databases
Date: 26 May 1995 13:38:23 -0500
Organization: University of Minnesota
Message-ID: <robe0149.801513485@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Does anyone out there know anything about databases for NeXT systems.
Vendor so
ld or something hiding out there on an ftp server. Free stuff would be
best, bu
t I would like to know abt anything period.
Please reply to mrdc@mrdc.lib.umn.edu.
Joe Robertson
MRDC
From: zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 24 May 1995 23:40:50 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Distribution: us
Message-ID: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com>
What kind of news readers are available for Next and where?
Zia
zia@mcs.net
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.postscript,alt.graphics
Subject: Odd behaviour of EPS in FrameMaker
Date: 28 May 1995 18:17:47 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3qaeob$16fm@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I have found something that has me very puzzled hence the odd newsgroup
list.
I run FrameMaker 3 on NextStep. I create EPS files from bitmaps using
pnmtoeps.
I then bring them into FrameMaker. If the file is smaller than a
certain screen size -- typically about 3 x 3 inches, then sometimes it
won't display. If I rotate it 90 degrees, it promptly shows up.
Also, If I enlarge it it shows up. That is, if I zoom in on the screeen
it will display.
Finally if I import the file, instead of just refering to it, it behaves
normally. This of course is useless to me, as the print versions are
unsuitable for screen work, and vice versa.
Needless to say, this is annoying.
All hints welcome. Please email in addition to posting. I'm under a
deadline with this stuff.
pnmfile says this about the file:
stdin: PGM raw, 1149 by 913 maxval 255
The script that makes the images calls pnmtops with the following
options:
print "Making low-res screen image $basename.eps from greymap\n";
system ("$cat $f |\
pnmscale -xscale $Rs -yscale $Rs |\
pnmtops -nocenter -noturn -scale $Ss -dpi $SD |\
setscreen $S > ../ps45dpi/$basename.eps ");
Where
$Rs = 0.4 ; #Resolution factor for screen maps.
$Ss = 0.4; #Scale factor for screen maps
$Sp = 0.16; #Postscript scaling factor for print maps.
# Rs * Ss == Sp for them to be same size.
$PD = 1200; #Postscript printer DPI
$SD = 90; #Postscript screen DPI
$H = "200 0 "; #Setscreen options for hardcopy
$S = "91 45"; #Setscreen options for screen
Below is the header that netpbm puts on the file.
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0
%%Creator: pnmtops
%%Title: noname.ps
%%Pages: 1
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 164 155
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From: zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb related problems - does not display graphics
Date: 24 May 1995 23:38:37 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Distribution: us
Message-ID: <3q11kd$ao7@Venus.mcs.com>
I have installed OmniWeb WWW Browser on my black hardware running 3.0. It
downloads the graphics but cannot display them -- it marks them with a red
circle and slash. I thought that this may be because of an incorrect filter
but I have not been able to figure out what variable I can tune to get this
to work. Otherwise, this is a cool App!!
Zia Bhatti
zia@mcs.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: How to build Satan 1.1.1 on NS 3.3
Message-ID: <D9Awv3.FEs@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3q81au$dm0@news.kth.se>
Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 18:33:03 GMT
Henrik Stĺhl (f92-hst@byse.nada.kth.se) wrote:
: I would like information on how to build Satan om my NS/FIP system,
: or a pointer to such information.
There's a NeXTanswers about it, that includes the ever-missing putenv()
function.
ftp.next.com:/pub/NeXTanswers/CompressedFiles/Urgent_Tech_Support
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: danie@nxtvad.core.org.za (Danie Malan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Wanted: Copy of Kermit or TIP to run with PPP2.2 on NeXTSTEP INTEL
Date: 28 May 1995 21:49:55 GMT
Organization: PiX - Proxima information X-change
Message-ID: <3qar64$egv@foxbat.pix.za>
Keywords: Kermit TIP
I am busy setting up a NS for Intel standalone machine to run an App
communicating with a set of networked machines across a modem.
I got hold of PPP2.2 and Gatekeeper (Looks great !), but can't seem to get
hold of a copy of either Kermit or tip for NS Intel. Can anybody help ?
Am I at least on the right track with the deadline looming ??!!
(A freeware product would be preferrable as this is a R&D exercise)
Any other suggestions or experiences shared in similar setups would be
appreciated.
Regards
Danie Malan
MS CAIRO = NT + OPENSTEP !
From: powell@tropic (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Simple statistical app needed
Date: 26 May 1995 14:17:57 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3q4nul$p2s@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
References: <D95CA7.1IC@midway.uchicago.edu>
SciPlot will let you do plots with least squares linear regression
lines (and give you the slope and intercept). You can get it at the
FTP sites and it is shareware.
From: xli@delphi.umd.edu (XiaoJun Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
Subject: Emacs ...
Date: 27 May 1995 23:59:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <3q8ecp$7em@hecate.umd.edu>
This post is regarding Emacs for NeXT(4.1 for Mach on Intel):
1. After I loaded vi files(vi.el, vip.el), I tried to use "Ctrl-Z" to switch
between emacs and vi, and that hung the whole system---the little CD cursor
just kept spinning forever. Is it a bug or I did something wrong?
2. Even if I used "Esc-x vi-mode" command, the session did not stay in vi:
after I entered the insert mode(e.g. typed in a "i" in "command mode"), I could
not switch back to "command mode" by pressing "Escape" key.
'cause I am posting this to more than one group, please MAIL your reply to me.
When a solution is found, I'd post it as a follow-up.
Thanks,
Yibing Wu
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu.soltec.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.postscript,alt.graphics
Subject: Re: Odd behaviour of EPS in FrameMaker
Date: 29 May 1995 06:15:10 GMT
Organization: Sol Tec, Inc.
Message-ID: <3qbope$k9m@aura.cu.soltec.com>
References: <3qaeob$16fm@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca writes:
>I then bring them into FrameMaker. If the file is smaller than a
>certain screen size -- typically about 3 x 3 inches, then sometimes it
>won't display. If I rotate it 90 degrees, it promptly shows up.
Does this happen under certain scrolling conditions? Under Frame 3.x
for NS, scrolling with the scroll bar (the one with the dimple in it)
is not the same as scrolling with the up & down-scroll buttons located
below the dimpled bar. This is most easily demonstrable with the
default footnote small bar, but it might also affect how your graphic
is showing up on-screen. I know this sounds strange, but the
conclusion is to use the dimpled bar instead of the up & down
scroll-buttons.
>Also, If I enlarge it it shows up. That is, if I zoom in on the screeen
>it will display.
This is quite similar to the font display bug in Frame 3.2 for NS.
Which version of Frame 3 are you running, exactly?
>All hints welcome. Please email in addition to posting. I'm under a
>deadline with this stuff.
* Try scrolling around using only the dimpled bar and not the buttons.
Scroll beyond the page with the troublesome EPS graphic and scroll
back, does the window redraw as it should?
* Try hitting Control-L to force the document window to redraw with the
troublesome EPS graphic. Any luck there?
* Are you sure you don't have a frame of any kind blocking any part of
the EPS graphic? There's another snafu (I hesitate to call this a bug
now, but I'm tempted since it's so weird) regarding how PS data
renders on-screen, but I've only noticed it with inline interpreted PS
code.
* On a lark, have you tried taking the PS code inside the EPS file,
making a text frame with a unique flow where you want the EPS figure
to go, pasting in that PS code and making the flow for that text frame
interpret as PS code?
* Perhaps rotating it and then rotating it back would help?
Unfortunately I don't speak Postscript, so I can't help if it's the
PS code that is problematic.
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXView-Gray Sizing?
Date: 29 May 1995 10:46:40 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qc8mg$1pa@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3pvfbu$ebs@yaler.cs.tcd.ie>
Jonathan Rice (Jonathan.Rice@cs.tcd.ie) wrote:
: I just downloaded the version of TeXView which does anti-aliased fonts:
: ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/tex/texview_gray.tar.gz
: However, the programme is acting very strangely. Whenever I select that I
: want gray-level fonts, the page rescales drastically towards the
: lower-left, and actually manages to crop off a strip at the bottom.
: Increasing the dpi brings the size back up again, but clipping problems
: soon arise. Is this thing just broken, or is there hope?
Have a look at the TeX project page on the eduStep WWW server:
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
Subjects/Publishing/Projects/Projects.html
There are pointers to two descendants of TeXview, Mark Doyle's
HyperTeXview (incorporating multiple documents and HyperTeX
capabilities) and Raf Schietekat's TeXview (a clean-up of TeXview,
among other things incoparating Marcel's anti-aliasing code,
multi-documents). Raf considers this still ALPHA software, but it's
quite stable by now.
Gregor
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From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 29 May 1995 09:25:26 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <3qc3u6$mur@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <3q5jtu$6v3@news.nd.edu>
Amir Sanjari (ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu) wrote:
> Does anyone know if there are plans in the pipe line to develop
> the NetScape internet browser for the NEXTSTEP ?
Last time I asked them (a few months ago): no, they are not considering
nextstep.
Get one of the native NextsTep apps: OmniWeb, Spiderwoman or Netsurfer.
I use Omniweb at home and netscape at work & prefer Omniweb in most respects.
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh,
Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics
Leiden University
gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
From: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Emacs ...
Date: 28 May 1995 01:22:40 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3q8j90$ard@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <3q8ecp$7em@hecate.umd.edu>
In article <3q8ecp$7em@hecate.umd.edu>, XiaoJun Li <xli@delphi.umd.edu> wrote:
> This post is regarding Emacs for NeXT(4.1 for Mach on Intel):
>
> 1. After I loaded vi files(vi.el, vip.el), I tried to use "Ctrl-Z"
> to switch between emacs and vi, and that hung the whole system---the
> little CD cursor just kept spinning forever. Is it a bug or I did
> something wrong?
>
> 2. Even if I used "Esc-x vi-mode" command, the session did not stay
> in vi: after I entered the insert mode(e.g. typed in a "i" in
> "command mode"), I could not switch back to "command mode" by
> pressing "Escape" key.
OK, first of all, ctrl-Z does not switch between emacs and vi modes.
What it does is call suspend-emacs. And as I just found out Workspace
does _not_ like it if an application suspends itself. What Emacs for
NS should do is just to disable suspend-emacs completely. Until then
you can do so yourself by adding these lines to your ~/.emacs.
(defun ns-win-suspend-error ()
(error "Suspending an emacs running under NS makes no sense"))
(add-hook 'suspend-hook 'ns-win-suspend-error)
Thanks for your report ! (Though probably the address mentioned on
the first page of the documentation or the emacs users mailing list
would have been a better place to post).
Carl Edman
From: robbie@hermes.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: how do you mount a CD-ROM on BLACK?
Date: 27 May 1995 18:29:46 -0400
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine
Message-ID: <3q894q$lu8@zeus.dciem.dnd.ca>
I have an application in which I need to mount a CD-ROM
from a "rlogin" session to my NeXT Turbo Cube (NS V. 3.3).
The person who is rlogin'ed has root privileges.
I RTFM'ed mount and now, if I understand it correctly, one mmounts
the CD-ROM as:
mount -rv -t cfs /dev/sd3a /cdrom
However, this yields the message:
mount: /dev/sd2a on /cdrom: No such device
mount: giving up on:
/cdrom
I tried mounting the NeXTSTEP 3.3 CD-ROM as well as another one.
Although the CD-ROM drive is on SCSI ID 3 I tried all other unused IDs.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Rob Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca
From: mark@ccc4.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Library of Congress
Date: 29 May 1995 16:08:35 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <3qcri3$2s7@news.tamu.edu>
Hi,
I am looking for the Library of Congress App that was on the net a while
back. Does anyone know where it can be located at?
Thanks
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: schorse@nightlife.escape.de (Hansjoerg Oppermann)
Subject: Re: Spiderwoman woes
Message-ID: <D96ErA.AE@nightlife.escape.de>
Sender: schorse@nightlife.escape.de (Hansjoerg Oppermann)
References: <D93nFB.A70@waldo.com>
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 08:11:33 GMT
In article <D93nFB.A70@waldo.com> hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker)
writes:
>: SpiderWoman is not crappy; it looks like an excellent program, from my
>: first looks. It requires either NeXTSTEP 3.3, or a combination of NS
3.2
>: and EOF 1.0 installed.
>
>Is that to say that it can run with straight 3.3... ie. no EOF installed?
Yes!
Look at <http://sente.epfl.ch/~swoman/>.
bye - schorse
---
Hansjoerg Oppermann, Rennelbergstr. 15, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany
EMail: <schorse@nightlife.escape.de>
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EMail: <schorse@nightlife.escape.de>
From: galkin@aol.com (Galkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: *FREE* Monthly Computer Law News
Date: 29 May 1995 16:06:15 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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*FREE* Monthly Computer Law News
****************************************
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Univ of Maryland Law School).
To be put on distribution list respond to: galkin@aol.com (William
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 29 May 1995 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <3qbhoe$7cj@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
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Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
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Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
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Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
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To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
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this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
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If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
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If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
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From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do you convert RTFD to HTML?
Date: 29 May 1995 00:39:53 -0400
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qbj6p$21i@jujube.cs.umd.edu>
What is the best way to convert RTFD files to HTML? Thanks. Ross.
--
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University of Maryland, College Park
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http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mross@antigone.com
Subject: CAP6.0 and NeXTSTEP 3.1?????
Message-ID: <1995May30.055626.11186@antigone.com>
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 05:56:26 GMT
I am trying to install CAP 6.0pl194 on a NeXTcube running NeXTSTEP 3.1.
It looks like the configure script is trying to work with NeXTSTEP 2.0, and does
not try to even compile anything in the support/ethertalk directory.
However, I thought that NeXTSTEP 3.0 added support for Ethertalk in which case
shouldn't I be compiling aarpd? Or should I be compiling UAB? The Appletalk
support that came with NeXTSTEP 3.0 definitely did not require a hardware bridge,
and CAP is said to be a good replacement for the now-defunct NeXT implementation
of Appletalk.
I am very lost and any pointers would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Michael Ross
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Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross@antigone.com
FAX: +1 415 550 1957
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do you convert RTFD to HTML?
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 07:50:42 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950530085042.215AACUJ.malc@daneel>
References: <3qbj6p$21i@jujube.cs.umd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> What is the best way to convert RTFD files to HTML? Thanks. Ross.
>
If you're feeling lazy and rich today, Pages, or if you're not, Edit.app.
Actually, Openwite supports HTML as well, now, but it's not as elegant as
Pages. It's getting there, though, but I still prefer just editing HTML
direct.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: robbie@hermes.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: still need help mounting CD-ROM on BLACK hw
Date: 30 May 1995 11:16:38 -0400
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine
Message-ID: <3qfcsm$dur@zeus.dciem.dnd.ca>
I folks. Still haven't come up with a solution so
I post again. Sorry for the repeat but help is urgently needed.
I have an application in which I need to mount a CD-ROM
from a "rlogin" session to my NeXT Turbo Cube (NS V. 3.3).
The person who is rlogin'ed has root privileges.
I RTFM'ed mount and now, if I understand it correctly, one mmounts
the CD-ROM as:
mount -rv -t cfs /dev/sd3a /cdrom
However, this yields the message:
mount: /dev/sd2a on /cdrom: No such device
mount: giving up on:
/cdrom
I tried mounting the NeXTSTEP 3.3 CD-ROM as well as another one.
Although the CD-ROM drive is on SCSI ID 3 I tried all other unused IDs.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Rob Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca
From: jrmw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James R. Merideth-Webb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Slab setup
Date: Sat, 27 May 95 14:15:24 PST
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
Message-ID: <3q817r$c0a@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
I recently purchased a NeXTstation. It was previously configured
as a workstation in an academic lab, which did a remote boot from
a server in another lab. I was able to get it to boot from the
internal 170 MG drive,but the existing setup is VERY bare bones,
like no digital librian or NeXT apps.
I have NeXTStep 3.1 CD ROM and floppy to re-install the OS and
development environment, but would like suggestions on the
following;
1. Any suggestions on how(or where I might find instructions) to
reformat the internal drive(perphaps add an additional drive) and
setup a generic configuration of OS and develoment environment.
2. I've downloaded the hardware compatibility list
from NeXT.com, but hardware recommendations based
on personal experience would be appreciated.
3. Any information on repair,service or component vendors for
future purchases.
Please e-mail responses to jrmw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu. Thanks.
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From: as@asci.fdn.fr (Antoine Schmitt)
Subject: Re: I need a FAT Binary Splitter! Where?
Message-ID: <1995May30.191356.1249@asci.fdn.fr>
Sender: as@asci.fdn.fr
Organization: Antoine Schmitt - Paris, France.
References: <D9ApBs.yB@ellcia.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 19:13:56 GMT
man lipo
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From: jcdavis1@unity.ncsu.edu (Joseph Carl Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP: XNeXT install
Date: 30 May 1995 15:13:45 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: USA
Message-ID: <3qfcn9$ccf@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Hello out there:
my situation is as follows: Nextstation 25
I have downloaded and installed (as per instructions in the .README),
Xnext, Xfe.app, and the X11R5-basics.
I have linked the files to /usr/* and chmod ugo+rw /dev/vid0.
However, when I launch Xfe.app, i get a message on the console that
it can't find XNextPaste and then exits status 2.
I can't figure out what I haven't done.
can anyone help me out here?
many thanks,
jcd
ps. please reply by email
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* jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu | Statistical Modeling and *
* (919) 515-7452 | Decision Theory *
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compiling gcc 2.6.3 on NS 2.0
Date: 30 May 1995 18:31:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qfoaj$9pk@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
References: <wjmCAq600VIbR0NEhy@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <wjmCAq600VIbR0NEhy@andrew.cmu.edu> "Brian J. Cardanha"
<bc2t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
] I recently inherited a NeXT cube with cc 1.3.6, and I would very
] much like to upgrade it, but can't seem to get it to work. I tried
] compiling 2.5.8, which would die when it tried to run enquire. And
] throughout the compile I was getting -traditional-ccp invalid flags
] warnings. So I was told to try 2.6.3.
] I got the same flag errors, so I sitched the flags to -traditional, and
] I don't get the flag warnings, but now I get all sorts of parse errors
] in standard lib files when it includes cccp.c.
]
] Can anyone tell me what's wrong with it now? And help would be
] greatly appreciated.
]
Ignore the warnings and use 2.6.3 with -traditional-ccp. -traditional means
something TOTALLY different!
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Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
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From: guptaa@alleg.edu (ANI )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pentium90 NS 3.3, DOS config query
Date: 30 May 1995 21:43:24 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qg3hs$rp@mustang.alleg.edu>
Hello all,
I am new to networking. I need to know how to get this information from my
machine which is an Intel Pentium 90, 16M RAM and 800+M HD, running NS3.3, with
a DOS partition. It has an EtherExpress 16C ethernet card at port 300, IRQ 11.
If anyone is familiar with this configuration please send me this info to my
account (I do not visit this newsgroup often.)
How do I find :
1. The name of the "packet driver" with the ethernet card?
2. The packet vector number (In Hex, like 0x <number>)?
3. The I/O number/address (Hex, same, 0x <number>)?
4. Name server IP address (For DNS searches)?
In case you didn't realize I am trying to set up Trumpet Winsock 2.0 to be able
to connect DOS to the network, which is a TCP/IP 56kps connection. If anyone
else has ever tried to do the same, for whatever reason, your help would be
invaluable.
Thanks.
-Ani.
guptaa@alleg.edu
From: darren@skipper.SchemaResearch.com (Darren Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer info?
Date: 30 May 1995 21:37:19 GMT
Organization: Aimnet Information Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qg36f$7fu@aimnet1.aimnet.com>
I've been out of the loop for some time now on the Net, and was wondering
what, if anything, had changed with regards to NG during my absence ;-)
We've got NS up and running on a SPARC 4, and would like to use NewsGrazer
on it, but last I checked, NG had only been compiled Intel/Moto.
Any news on a QUAD FAT version? Any idea if the source to the old version
is available somewhere (besides NeXT or Millenium) so we could do it
ourselves?
Thanks in advance!
Darren Smith
Schema Research Corp.
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I need a FAT Binary Splitter! Where?
Date: 30 May 1995 16:25:07 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3qfgt3$q28@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <D9D49I.1z9@gurke.ping.de>
In article <D9D49I.1z9@gurke.ping.de> tini@gurke.ping.de writes:
> andrew@ellcia.demon.co.uk wrote:
> :Andrew P Drake (adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
> :> The subject says it all - I'm looking for an app to strip
> :> only the Motorla
> :>
> :> segment out of a FAT binary. Where can I find one?
> :Or you could try MetroSuction.app from MetroSoft. A lovely little app for
> :thinning your FAT apps down.
> But MetroSuction.app crashes if the binary contains any sparc code. Or is
there a newer
> version out there which can remove sparc code?
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/Tools/Hack/XanthusStripper.2.1.NIH.b.
tar.gz
.. and it's free ;-)
-- georg --
-- georg --
From: robe0149@gold.tc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GDI For System Statistics
Date: 30 May 1995 16:19:01 -0500
Organization: University of Minnesota
Message-ID: <robe0149.801868612@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Does anyone know abt a GDI that shows data related to system usage?
Something along the lines of X-Windows tool that shows a constantly
updated graph of system usages.
Plz reply to: mrdc@mrdc.lib.umn.edu
Joe Robertson
From: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep on SunSparc Question
Date: 30 May 1995 16:52:30 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qfige$q2i@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <lwallyci-2805951611130001@dal03.onramp.net>
In article <lwallyci-2805951611130001@dal03.onramp.net> lwallyci@onramp.net (Leslie
Connally) writes:
> Does anyone know (is it even released yet ?!?!) if the new NeXTStep for
> Sparc will run on older Sparcs (ie, my IPX).
Nope... It requires a microSPARC or SuperSPARC chip - i.e., a sparcstation
4, 5, 10, or 20. Last time I checked, we offer pretty good upgrade pricing, and the
sparc 4 and 5 are nice little machines, a lot faster than your IPX.
> (I'm Unix stupid, and NeXT would make it alot easier than openwindows!)
Amen.
Best,
Pete
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From: rarntz@ing.udec.CL (Rodrigo Arntz S.)
Subject: Info about MATH-PROGRAM'S ...
Sender: usenet@halcon.dpi.udec.cl
Message-ID: <1995May27.045246.34044@halcon.dpi.udec.cl>
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 04:52:46 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Concepcion, Concepcion - Chile
I need any information about MATHEMATICAL PROGRAMMING
SOFTWARE like:
- names of the software (if one could find like shareware)
- where one could acquire the software
- cost of the software
- existent manuals
- that type of problems of mathematical code resolves
- evaluations of the software (Who it is better of all)
I know of the existence of 2 programs of this type: the "Lindo"
(a easy version of using) and the "Gams 386 v2.25" (enough not very
friendly and only run in 386 machines), both for DOS.
Exist any version of the "Gams" for Windows , or any program
from mathematical programming friendly ???
please send email.
from already, thank you
Rodrigo Arntz S
rarntz@canelo.ing.udec.cl
Student of Engineering Civ. Industrial
University of Concepcion
CHILE / SOUTH AMERICA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tini@gurke.ping.de
Subject: Re: I need a FAT Binary Splitter! Where?
Message-ID: <D9D49I.1z9@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
References: <950527131240.215AACUx.malc@daneel> <D9ApBs.yB@ellcia.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 23:08:05 GMT
andrew@ellcia.demon.co.uk wrote:
:Andrew P Drake (adrake@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
:> The subject says it all - I'm looking for an app to strip
:> only the Motorla
:>
:> segment out of a FAT binary. Where can I find one?
:Or you could try MetroSuction.app from MetroSoft. A lovely little app for
:thinning your FAT apps down.
But MetroSuction.app crashes if the binary contains any sparc code. Or is there a newer
version out there which can remove sparc code?
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| Emil Figge 7 44227 Dortmund (o o) Tel: 0231/7519681 |
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From: filipone@rain.org (Larry Filippone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stand Alone NeXTstation needs PPP Software & a little help
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:59:38 -0800
Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN
Message-ID: <filipone-3005951459380001@port35.ventura.rain.org>
I've read a bit on the subject in the NeXt Web pages but the phone numbers
offered for the software from Marble, etc. don't have been disconnected
(surprise!) so if anyone out there can help. I'm looking for easily
configurable (I'm not the UNIX man I'd like ta be) PPP software for a
NeXTstation Turbo. Any help with a newsreader and mail software would be
great too even if its expensive.
Larry Filippone
--
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filipone@rain.org
From: jan@altus.no (Jan Bratbak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multisession PhotoCD
Date: 30 May 1995 16:08:01 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Message-ID: <3qfft2$kqu@ratatosk.uninett.no>
Hi,
Does anyone know of an application or utility that sees/can manipulate/convert
multisession PhotoCD disks?
Also, is there an application that recognizes the new high resolution 72 mb
PhotoCD format?
Thanx.
Jan
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_____________________________________________________________________________
Jan Bratbak
Altus Interactive
Oslo Research Center
Gaustadalleen 21
0371 Oslo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: belka@il.us.swissbank.com (Andy Belk)
Subject: MacOS on NeXT
Message-ID: <1995May30.233256.6649@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: Mac NeXT ROMS
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 23:32:56 GMT
Hi,
Some time ago someone published an article advertising a product that
enabled Mac programs to run on (black) NeXTs, either in this group or
comp.sys.next.announce. Unfortunately I don't have external net access
so I can't check back issues.
Could someone either send me a copy of the old article if they have it
or could the author send me some info on the product ?
I am interested in running CodeWarrior (for Magic Cap, actually) on
a NeXT Cube (68030 or 68040), and possibly PhotoShop (but I doubt the
latter would work) ...
Many thanks,
Andy Belk
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From: graham@sparcst1.essex.ac.uk (Clarke G S)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: a simple database?
Date: 31 May 1995 09:20:45 GMT
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qhcdd$b8n@seralph9.essex.ac.uk>
Hi everyone, I am looking for a simple database package for the NeXT
that can be used by a novice and will store a relatively small dataset.
Ideally this would be public domain or low cost. It is to enable a
secretary with information on a limited number of projects to access
information about those projects using different keys.
If you know of any such package or where I might find one please let me know.
Thanks
Graham
==========================================================================
Graham Clarke. Computer Technical Officer. Department of Computer Science,
University of Essex, Wivenhoe Park, Colchester CO4 3SQ, Essex, England.
e-mail: graham@uk.ac.essex, telephone: (0206) 872340 or +44 206 872340
From: walsh@mathubc.ca (John B. Walsh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: changing tempo in .snd files
Date: 31 May 1995 17:16:22 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3qi896$ldm@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Keywords: sound, tempo
Is there any software for the NeXT which will either play or
rewrite a .snd file so that it plays at the _same_ pitch but a
_different_ tempo? (I've heard of a Mac app which does this, but the
only ones I know of for the NeXT change both together.)
John Walsh
walsh@math.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: claudius@icgned.nl (Claudius Rugge)
Subject: help with PNI slip
Message-ID: <D9G5uE.G0y@icgned.nl>
Sender: news@icgned.nl
Organization: IC Group
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:35:02 GMT
Anybody out there using PNI slip and an Hayes Optima 288 V.FC Modem?
Anyone has a dial tcl script for this kind of modem?
Help to
claudius@icgned.nl
From: dmwood@leo (David M. Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EPS->Tiff with specified dpi
Date: 31 May 1995 20:08:02 GMT
Organization: National Renewable Energy Laboratory
Message-ID: <3qiib2$eud@nrel.nrel.gov>
Keywords: TIFF, dpi
Howdy!
I've been trying to convert EPS gray-scale files into TIFF files with
*specified* resolutions (300dpi, for example), but they invarably end up
at a fixed 72 dpi (screen resolution). [I'm trying to synthesize
`photographs' to be Fourier transformed, and 72 dpi gives ugly spatial
frequency artifacts, throwing the image baby out with the bathwater.]
I've tried 'Saving as' TIFFs from Draw, from other graphics apps, used
ImageViewer, etc., to no avail: always 72 dpi. I've examined Sam Leffler's
TIFF utilities package, but it doesn't appear to do what I need. Am I
missing the boat entirely about the capabilities of TIFF files?
Can anyone point me to a utility for converting EPS into TIFF of a
particular dpi, or suggest a workaround?
Many thanks!
David M. Wood || Solid State Theory Group
dmwood@nrel.nrel.gov || Branch 4510
Phone: (303) 384-6642 || National Renewable Energy Laboratory
Fax: (303) 384-6531 || 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
No NeXTMail here please :(
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: backup
Date: 31 May 1995 15:49:50 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University
Message-ID: <3qi36u$6or@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
hi,
do you have a favorite back-up technique? what works well for black
hardware? i am actually interested in hearing about your experience with
hardware and pricing. do you have recommendations for dat, exabyte,
optical, and zip drives.
has anyone tried the 270M syquest drives for the macintosh with the NeXT
machines? how does "dump" handle running into a eot on these non-NeXT
devices? for example, if i used a zip drive with 100M floppym, what
happens at the end of the floppy? can dump spit out the floppy or am i
lost in a loop at this point because i can't swap new zip floppies?
then again there are the price/convenience issues as well. we have a 1G
hard disk, a 500M internal on a CUBE and whatever ???M is on the
NeXTStation internal harddrive. that's a lot of zip media as opposed to
one dat tape.
thanks alot for your advice,
brendan mcdougall
---------------------------------
physics dept/brandeis university
415 south street
waltham ma 02154
From: abc@sait144.morgan.com (Alexander Cone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Smart Field...
Date: 31 May 1995 17:06:22 GMT
Organization: Morgan Stanley
Message-ID: <ABC.95May31130622@sait144.morgan.com>
References: <3po14b$q9t@taquito.abq.bdm.com> <3pqsgu$np8@taquito.abq.bdm.com>
<D9013A.5sJ@cunews.carleton.ca> <3q4jak$99a@news.bdm.com>
In-reply-to: Yibing Wu's message of 26 May 1995 12:59:00 GMT
In article <3q4jak$99a@news.bdm.com> Yibing Wu <yibwu> writes:
I called up that number, turned out to be a disconnected one.
Is this company still in business?
Thanks,
Yibing Wu
Hi -
I bellieve the company you are looking for is Objective Technologies,
In in New York City. Their contact information is as follows:
Objective Technologies, Inc. (OTI)
Attn: Eric Bergerson
177 East 77th St. Suite 6a
NYC, NY 10021
Phone: (212) 988-6268
Email: info@object.com
Info like this can usually be found on the StepWise WWW site
Alex Cone
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From: u603994@csi.uottawa.ca (Peter Yeung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software to play my cd's on cd-rom on cube
Date: 31 May 1995 17:43:03 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Message-ID: <3qi9r7$79i@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA>
Dear next users and experts.....
I am looking fo a software to play my cd on my next cube it is a
030 with external sony 55s cd rom..... I would like to know is it possible
for me to play cd out of this box...
If you have any recommendation please le t me know....
Sincerely,
--
Peter Yeung
Email: u603994@csi.uottawa.ca
Pager: 613-566-5707
From: eric@du.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep on SunSparc Question
Date: 31 May 1995 16:56:31 GMT
Organization: Rust Net - High Speed Internet in Detroit 810-642-2276
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qi73v$g3k@oxy.rust.net>
References: <3qfige$q2i@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
In article <3qfige$q2i@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com
(Pete Clark) writes:
>*************************************************************************
> Pete Clark | The thinking man looks at the world and
> SunSoft Object Products Group | sees a comedy. The feeling man looks
> Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (NeXTMail) | at the world and sees a tragedy.
> ************************************************************************
Take a look at what follows his email address.
I never thought I'd see (NeXTMail) following
a sun.com address!
Eric
From: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What app opens .profile files?
Date: 31 May 1995 20:14:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <3qiinj$92m@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Hello All!
I have some plain ascii text files that have a .profile file extension on
them i.e. data.profile. When one of these files is selected in the File
Viewer, its icon is a picture of a NeXT monitor with a question mark in the
screen. I would have expected the icon to be the normal Edit file icon. So,
if I double click on the file to try to open it up in Edit, the Workspace
wants to run the file and puts up a message saying the application is
damaged. So, why is the Workspace treating files with a .profile extension as
special files or executables?
I tried checking/changing the file permissions of the files to make sure
they are not executable. The tools inspector shows no tools for the file. The
"file" command thinks the files are ascii text files. Any ideas? By the way,
I can open the files in Edit by using Edit's open panel..
--
Alvin Jee
alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
Using the Internet since 1984
http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~alvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: woden@asgard.csuohio.edu (A. P. Santilli)
Subject: ppp server
Message-ID: <1995May31.184739.29901@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 18:47:39 GMT
Hello All !
I am trying to use the PPP2.2 package (v 0.1.9) to set up a ppp dial-up on
my NS 3.3 Intel workstation (Dell Optiplex)...
Anyone do this yet ?????
The PPP2.2 package seems to work pretty good, I have been able to use it
on both black and white hardware under NS 3.3 to call into our campus
service (Xylogics Annex Servers), but have been unable to set up a ppp
connection dialing from my home machine (classic black w/NS 3.3) or my
laptop (NEC Versa w/MSWIN and FTP's PCTCP v3.1) to my work machine (the
aforementioned Dell Optiplex w/NS 3.3).
I have been able to dial into the Dell and login to my regular account,
but unable to login and get ppp started.
The following is a list of the actions that I have taken and modifications
that have been made to standard files:
1) I modified /etc/gettytab, adding with following line
m|D19200|Fast-Dial-19200:\
:nx=9600:tc=19200-baud:
2) I modified /etc/ttys
ttyfa "/usr/etc/getty D19200" dialup on secure
3) I customized the "pppup.remote" included in the distibution,
4) I created a group "ppp"
5) I created a user "ppp" with the default group ppp and "pppup.remote" as
the shell
6) I replaced the ifconfig statement in the rc.local with the one
suggested in the ppp faq
"arp -s othermachinesipaddress myownethernetaddress permanent public
ifconfig pppNUMBER myipaddress othermachinesipaddress [other params] up"
7) I modified the "routed" setup in the rc from -q (quiet option) to -g
(gateway option) - I use this on my home machine to connect my laptop
through my old cube to the campus network.
and it didn't work... so
8) I tried to comment out the "arp -s othermachinesipaddress
myownethernetaddress permanent public" line that I added to the rc.local
(not knowing if the NeXT would handle arp).
9) I moved the ttyfa entry made in the /etc/gettytab to ttyfb, ttydfa, and
ttydfb... trying both references to D19200 and the std.19200
and every concievable combination of the above =:0
The modem answers fine, and if I use a regular terminal program I am able
to login to my normal user account with absolutely no difficulty (as I
said before)... If I try to login as ppp (to start off the pppd with my
pppup.remote shell) the login process locks up after asking for a
password, and the whole thing hangs until the login process times out (5
minutes later).
I think that my problem is in this "pppup.remote" shelll I am trying to
use, but haven't the foggiest notion of where to look next (having
exhausted myself on the man pages, faq, readme's etc).
Is there is something that I am missing here or are the NS 3.3 drivers so
bad that I can't use my Dell as a ppp server ??????
If anyone has had success with this, or from the provided information sees
a mistake I made, or understands what I am trying to do here and feels
inclined to give me a hand PLEASE DROP ME A LINE !!!!!
they say that a mind is a terrible thing to waste, and mine is going to be
totally wasted if I can't figure out if this is possible and what I am
doing wrong.
Thanks (in advance)
--
Angelo Santilli * Cleveland State University * Cleveland Ohio
woden@asgard.csuohio.edu * NeXTMAIL/MIME * woden@max.net23.csuohio.edu
From: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTStep on SunSparc Question
Date: 31 May 1995 20:45:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qikgl$ebj@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <3qi73v$g3k@oxy.rust.net>
Keywords: nextmail? at sun?
In article <3qi73v$g3k@oxy.rust.net> eric@du.com writes:
>
>********************************************************************
*****
> > Pete Clark | The thinking man looks at the
world and
> > SunSoft Object Products Group | sees a comedy. The feeling man
looks
> > Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (NeXTMail) | at the world and sees a
tragedy.
> >
*********************************************************************
***
>
> Take a look at what follows his email address.
> I never thought I'd see (NeXTMail) following
> a sun.com address!
And guess what! I'm NewsGrazer-compatible too!
Best,
Pete
--
*********************************************************************
Pete Clark | The thinking man looks at the world and
SunSoft Object Products Group | sees a comedy. The feeling man looks
Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (NeXTMail) | at the world and sees a
tragedy.
*********************************************************************
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From: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 31 May 1995 10:53:05 GMT
Organization: Verein der Informatikstudierenden an der ETH Zuerich
Distribution: us
Message-ID: <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com>
zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
: What kind of news readers are available for Next and where?
Different kind :-)
There are 4 NeXTSTEP Newsreader which I'm aware of:
- Newsgrazer, the original NeXTSTEP Newsreader, has no support, and doesn't
run on HP & SPARC Platforms.
- NewsBase, comes with source, nice Interface, but too slow for fast
Newsreading, IMHO
- News, source as well, Beta-release, doesn't allow posting.
- Eloquent, commercial News&Mail-Reader, is said to be good.
Then there are of course the standard free UNIX-Newsreader, which work on
NeXTSTEP.
tin-1.22 (Anyone can help me compiling 1.30b ?)
trn-3.5
gnus (Version whatsoever) needs a working Emacs
... and lots more, like pine, xnews, xvnews (for those who want to play with
X11 as well) ...
Where ?
NeXT-Newsreader: are all on the NeXT-Archives, please consult the NeXT-FAQ,
or the list of NeXTSTEP Resources posted on comp.sys.next.announce
Others: find them with archie, or consult the relevant FAQs (on news.answers)
-daniel
--
Daniel G. Kluge - cs-student @ Federal Institute of Technology Zurich
E-Mail: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) [ Pager 152-99-54082 ]
From: galkin@aol.com (Galkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3qd9fn$g48@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Control: cancel <3qd9fn$g48@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Date: 31 May 1995 17:00:12 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <-3qd9fn$g48@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Please cancel this posting
From: ndawson@icarus.weber.edu (Neil Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cannot turn off my slab!
Date: 30 May 1995 14:54:25 GMT
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qfbj1$67o@news.cc.utah.edu>
Help,
I just upgraded ty 040 colorstation to 3.3 and now I cannot turn it off. I thought that it might be a setting in Preferences but no... Has anybody had the same experience and if so how do you remedy the situation? Thanks in advance.
Neil Dawson
P.S. Replies can be sent to ndawson@csnext.weber.edu
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Perl5.001 binaries?
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:15:20 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950601131428.10642E-100000@hphalle4b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <3qfkvm$7co@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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In-Reply-To: <3qfkvm$7co@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
I was compiling Perl5.002 using the config.sh without any problems.
Try to get this updated version.
Greetings,
Boerny.
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) Look at http://www.leo.org/archiv/NeXT/
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de, scholz@c86501.rm.op.dlr.de
'X is what it was designed for --- to open multiple terminal windows.' T.W.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: EPS->Tiff with specified dpi
Message-ID: <D9HKFK.L5@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte
References: <3qiib2$eud@nrel.nrel.gov>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 08:47:44 GMT
In article <3qiib2$eud@nrel.nrel.gov> dmwood@leo (David M. Wood) writes:
> Howdy!
> I've been trying to convert EPS gray-scale files into TIFF files with
> *specified* resolutions (300dpi, for example), but they invarably end up
> at a fixed 72 dpi (screen resolution). [I'm trying to synthesize
> `photographs' to be Fourier transformed, and 72 dpi gives ugly spatial
> frequency artifacts, throwing the image baby out with the bathwater.]
> I've tried 'Saving as' TIFFs from Draw, from other graphics apps,
used
> ImageViewer, etc., to no avail: always 72 dpi. I've examined Sam
Leffler's
> TIFF utilities package, but it doesn't appear to do what I need. Am I
> missing the boat entirely about the capabilities of TIFF files?
>
> Can anyone point me to a utility for converting EPS into TIFF of a
> particular dpi, or suggest a workaround?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> David M. Wood || Solid State Theory Group
> dmwood@nrel.nrel.gov || Branch 4510
> Phone: (303) 384-6642 || National Renewable Energy Laboratory
> Fax: (303) 384-6531 || 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
> No NeXTMail here please :(
Please post answers into news !!
Manfred
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From: beebb@camtwh.eric.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing PC -> Cube
Date: 1 Jun 1995 01:06:54 GMT
Organization: Eye Research Institute, Toronto Western Hospital
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qj3re$c2o@sator.eric.on.ca>
Has anyone sucessfully been able to set up either WP6.1 or Word6.0a
to print from a PC to a cube? Both will print single pages OK, but
if I print a multi page doc, the following happens:
WP: Printer keeps printing out error messages such as "Offending
Command=length" etc, etc,. I discovered that this is
because WP thinks that the printer (no matter what I do)
is an Apple LaserWriter. I tried getting a "Passthru
Postscript Driver from WP's bbs, but the same thing
still happens...
Word: Printer will print error messages as above, or try and
print a whole page on one line (prints over each other).
If anyone has suggestions, please email
Thanks,
Brian
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& Computer Guy
- Department of Physiology, U of T
beebb@camtwh.eric.on.ca - Internet Consultant/Web Page Developer
brian@borgship.eric.on.ca - NeXT/MIME Mail
http://borgship.eric.on.ca/
From: Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC compiled for black hardware?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 1 Jun 1995 09:59:28 GMT
Organization: Online at Wimsey Information Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qk320$mvb@wolfe.wimsey.com>
Summary: IRC client for black hardware?
Keywords: Internet Relay Chat
Has anyone managed to compile an Internet Relay Chat client on a NeXT? I
got the source for ircII-2.7 but can't get the Makefile to cooperate. Please
reply by e-mail or followup post if you have a copy available. Thanks.
---
Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com> http://www.wimsey.com/~khiebert/
* MIME/NeXTmail welcome * PGP public key available for secure messages *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ubu@sparkey (Urs Buechel)
Subject: Re: Stand Alone NeXTstation needs PPP Software & a little help
Message-ID: <D9ILFw.FIF@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
References: <filipone-3005951459380001@port35.ventura.rain.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 22:07:07 GMT
Larry Filippone (filipone@rain.org) wrote:
: I've read a bit on the subject in the NeXt Web pages but the phone numbers
: offered for the software from Marble, etc. don't have been disconnected
: (surprise!) so if anyone out there can help. I'm looking for easily
: configurable (I'm not the UNIX man I'd like ta be) PPP software for a
: NeXTstation Turbo. Any help with a newsreader and mail software would be
: great too even if its expensive.
: Larry Filippone
: --
: Larry Filippone
: filipone@rain.org
I have been using Morning Star PPP for quite some time and have found
it to be very stable and usable, but it definitely involves editing
of some configuration files (price ~ $800). You can reach Morning Star
Technologies at 1 800 558 7827 or 1 614 451 1883 or at ftp.morningstar.com
(no demo versions available there, you'll need an authorization code to
use the software).
I'm using (caracter-based) tin as a newsreader (available from many
anonymous ftp-sites), current version is 1.3beta-950515. I prefer tin
over NewsGrazer or other graphical newsreaders for it's speed.
I hope this will be enough for a starter ...
Date: 1 Jun 1995 18:18:50 GMT
From: swong@pobox.com (Sylvia Wong)
Message-ID: <cancel.3qk46v$c91@news.asiaonline.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <3qk46v$c91@news.asiaonline.net>
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Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: pgeiss@giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Peter Geissler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: C Source Beautifier
Date: 1 Jun 1995 08:59:54 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qjvia$e62@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Hi everybody,
I am looking for a c source code beautifier,
which eg. makes keywords appear as bold,
comments as italic, organizes {} in
a nice way and prints a header with file
name and page number on each side of the
listing.
Does such a thing exists and where can it
be found ?
Thanx in advance 4 any help
Peter Geissler
pgeiss@giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de
NEXT MAIL WELCOME
From: mike_trogni@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Trogni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: word processor that works with forms avail ?
Date: 1 Jun 1995 17:45:12 GMT
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK
Message-ID: <3qkub8$fue@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
Is there a word processor available for NS 3.2 ( intel & m68k ) that
has an easy-to-use forms definition functionality ?
any WP that reads AmiPro documents ? ( longshot, I know )
we are looking to put together templates to use for printing out forms.
Please let me know,
Thanks
Mike_trogni@swissbank.com
From: wfleitz@osf1.gmu.edu (William V Fleitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help With DialupIP
Date: 1 Jun 1995 23:24:15 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <3qli6v$jom@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
Could someone either offer some info on how to configure DialupIP
for a SLIP connection or perhaps send me a copy of the Documentation
file NOT in Write Now format, but either ASCII or Word Perfect. I have
that file but it is WN formatted and I don't have WN only WP.
Thanks
William
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: problem in Preferences
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs
Date: 2 Jun 1995 06:35:14 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3qmbf2$ds9@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3qist0$6o6@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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Mark_Tyler_Neher (mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com) wrote:
: Has anyone seen this problem?? It is repeatable on several machines in
: our office running 3.3.
: If we log in as root, Preferences is auto-launched. If we then
: double-click on Preferences to make it the active app, it crashes with no
: message in the log file. Double-clicking to relaunch it doesn't work --
: it appears to crash almost immediately.
Last summer I experienced this on my Pentium 66 MHz System. After
installing an additional processor fan, everything was fine (This was
with 3.2, but I don't think there's much difference in this respect).
Sounds odd, but it's real.
Hope that helps.
Axel
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Muellerstr. 145 kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de )o o(
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Cannot turn off my slab!
In-Reply-To: ndawson@icarus.weber.edu's message of 30 May 1995 14:54:25 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun2000049@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3qfbj1$67o@news.cc.utah.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 04:00:49 GMT
You need to log in as root. Go to Preferences.app and select the power
management module. Turn off the options to power up the computer upon
power failure.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
p.s. I posted here for the benefit of others...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Printing PC -> Cube
In-Reply-To: beebb@camtwh.eric.on.ca's message of 1 Jun 1995 01:06:54 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun2000824@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3qj3re$c2o@sator.eric.on.ca>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 04:08:24 GMT
In the printcap entry for your printer, you should add a _nxfinalform.
Robert
From: djm@cyckam.nscl.msu.edu (DJMorrissey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Reading PDF files or How do I read the NYTimesFAX
Date: 1 Jun 1995 12:00:51 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <3qka5j$rle@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Keywords: PDF, Adobe, Acrobat, Nextstep
Does anyone know how to view -pdf- files in the NextStep environment?
This is a (new) format from Adobe and they supply a previewer or
reader for MAC, Windoze, and Sun-UNIX.
My motivation is to be able to read the New York Times FAX version
that is free on the Web at http://nytimesfax.com At present I can
download the file and port it to a PC on a diskette. It would be
much nicer to use the NextStep environment.
Thanks,
Dave Morrissey
[ Prof. D.J. Morrissey..........web: http:/www.cem.msu.edu/~djm ]
[ Department of Chemistry and.............voice: 1-517-333-6321 ]
[ National Superconducting Cyclotron Lab....FAX: 1-517-353-5967 ]
[ Michigan State University, East Lansing, Michigan, USA 48824 ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: C Source Beautifier
In-Reply-To: pgeiss@giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de's message of 1 Jun 1995 08:59:54 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun2001000@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3qjvia$e62@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 04:10:00 GMT
I'm sure that there are better utilities to be found but the one that comes
to mind is "cb" It comes with NEXTSTEP. Type "man cb" for usage.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Subject: Question in IMPROV Presentation Builder
Message-ID: <D9GH22.AFC@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Keywords: Improv
Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Organization: Home, Sweet Home...
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 18:37:14 GMT
Suppose to have this very simple data:
Leg Total
Altitude Distance Distance
---------- ---------- ----------
Sun Valley 500
Abbey Road 800 1500 1500
Bernina Pass 2500 3000 4500
Blue Lake 2000 800 5300
Now, I would like to have a graphic having the Total
Distance as x axis and the Altitude as y axis and the
profile of the journey displayed. The only graph I
have obtained is one considering just the altitude.
The representation is wrong, having the same fixed
distance between each point, like:
+
+
+
+
----------------------> Distance
SV AR BP BL
while the right representation is:
+
+
+
+
---------------------------------> Distance
SV AR BP BL
Any help in how to solve this using Improv ???
Thank you!
Stefano
--
Stefano Unternaehrer NeXTStep Software Developer
Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe
phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064
NeXTMail: Stefano@Galileo.pr.net.CH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 19:23:31 -0700
From: Peter Langston <pud!psl@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Message-ID: <9506020223.AA03586@pud.wolfe.net>
Subject: Re: EPS->Tiff with specified dpi
Quoth: dmwood@leo (David M. Wood)
> I've been trying to convert EPS gray-scale files into TIFF files with
> *specified* resolutions (300dpi, for example), but they invarably end up
> at a fixed 72 dpi (screen resolution). ...
> Can anyone point me to a utility for converting EPS into TIFF of a
> particular dpi, or suggest a workaround?
I've just submitted a program to the orst NeXT archive that was designed
to address part of that problem. At the moment it's on ftp.cs.orst.edu as
software/NeXT/submissions/tiffres.NI.tar.gz. I've included a bit of the README
file below...
Peter
---------- Peter Langston -- psl@acm.org -- Seattle, WA ----------
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
TIFFRES -- Tiff Resolution utility
(c) Peter Langston <psl@acm.org> 2/95
Tiffres is a program to inspect and/or set the X and Y resolution tags
in TIFF files.
I wrote this simple utility in frustration over the number of programs
that either produce tiff files with no X and Y resolutions or that
mis-encode the specified resolutions (e.g. Icon, Pixelist ... oh, hi Keith).
Usage: tiffres [-v] [-x[=#]] [-y[=#]] tiff-file [...]
-v increases verbosity.
-x prints the current x resolution.
-y prints the current y resolution.
-x=12.3 sets the x resolution to 12.3 dpi.
-y=300 sets the y resolution to 300 dpi.
The exit status is a count of errors.
From: rwong@pcr (Robert Wong Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandra newsreader -- where?
Date: 2 Jun 1995 07:27:23 GMT
Organization: Internet Direct, Inc.
Message-ID: <3qmegr$kme@stud.Direct.CA>
Oh Alexandra, Alexandra, where art thou Alexandra.app?
<Translation: Where can I find the most recent version of
Alexandra.app? The version I have is v0.7>
RWW.
From: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: tin-1.3 compiles with gcc-2.5.8 only
Date: 1 Jun 1995 13:32:13 GMT
Organization: Verein der Informatikstudierenden an der ETH Zuerich
Message-ID: <3qkfgt$pmo@neptune.ethz.ch>
I just came across the latest version of tin, my favorite Newsreader
but when compiling I always got an error:
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys/param.h:39: warning: redefinition of macro BSD
signal.c:59: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `)'
signal.c:62: illegal external declaration, found `{'
*** Exit 1
the respecitve parts in the source:
signal.c:59:65
RETSIGTYPE (*sigdisp(sig, func))(SIG_ARGS)
int sig;
RETSIGTYPE (*func)(SIG_ARGS);
{
return (signal (sig, func));
}
and in proto.h:464
extern RETSIGTYPE (*sigdisp P_((int sig, RETSIGTYPE (*func)(SIG_ARGS)))) P_((SIG_ARGS));
Now comes the fun:
- It doesn't compile with 3.2, Version:
NeXT Computer, Inc. version cc-216.obj~13, gcc version 2.2.2
- It doesn't compile with 3.3, Version: 2.5.8
- It DOES compile with gcc 2.5.8 !!!
Although the NeXT cc claims to be an gcc 2.5.8 it isn't able to compile the
source, and the original gcc (5h to build) does...
You can consider that funny or not...
-daniel
--
Daniel G. Kluge - cs-student @ Federal Institute of Technology Zurich
E-Mail: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) [ Pager 152-99-54082 ]
From: ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys (Stefan Ried)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: real GnuPlot-Frontend
Date: 1 Jun 1995 10:11:51 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <3qk3p7$39t@sun1.uni-essen.de>
NeXT-Users,
is somebody out there having a real stable gnuplot frontend for the NeXT ?
I don't mean gnuterm for NeXT.
GnuTerm ist still commandline stuff and I don't understand why we are not going to
improve Robert Davis' real frontend. I just build a fat (Intel,Black) binary out
of the sources:
ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources:
1796931 Jun 16 1993 Gnuplot1.2_src.tar.Z
(watch out for local sites !)
and put it on
ftp://ftp.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/systems/next/Apps/GnuPlot.NI.tar.gz
Are there newer Sources anywhere ?
The app used to crash very randomly after ten to twenty (re)plots. I just worked
around by linking the MallocDebug lib which causes extreamly swapping but is
stable.
I found the problem in one dying pointer used by some functions of the appClass
later. But I had no time yet to fix it.
I want to be sure that nobody else is working on that yet. What's about you
Robert?
Any hints, Comments ?
Stefan Ried
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E-Mail : ried@garfield.theo-phys.uni-essen.de __/___/
NeXT-Mail welcome, MIME accepted /./\__/\\
Telefon : ++49 201 183 3529 Fax: ++49 201 183 2120 \_/ \_/
Project : working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals
WWW-Page : http://www.physik.uni-essen.de/personen/stef.html
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From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: word processor that works with forms avail ?
Date: 2 Jun 1995 14:48:41 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3qn8c9$d58@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3qkub8$fue@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
In article <3qkub8$fue@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>
mike_trogni@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Trogni) writes:
>
> Is there a word processor available for NS 3.2 ( intel & m68k ) that
> has an easy-to-use forms definition functionality ?
Though not a word-processor, the new InForms app from SmartSoft might be
just what you're looking for. I've included some information about it
below my signature box.
> any WP that reads AmiPro documents ? ( longshot, I know )
I believe WriteUp, OpenWrite, and Pages all have the capability of opening
AmiPro files.
> we are looking to put together templates to use for printing out forms.
>
> Please let me know,
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike_trogni@swissbank.com
---
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
v: 303.861.4411 f: 303.861.2393
WWW: http://stepwise.com/OpenSource/
InForms is the alternative to diving into a word processor or some other
heavy duty application to fill out a simple one page form. Forms documents
are the same '.draw' documents used for fax cover sheets. Using Draw.app,
included with NEXTSTEP, you can lay out beautiful forms that are very fast
and easy to fill using our application. Unlike the NEXTSTEP Fax Cover
sheet panel, InForms presents a form document in a WYSIWYG ("What You See
Is What You Get") fashion. You can spell check your memo and change fonts
on words or fields.
The major benefits include:
* WYSIWYG view of the form.
* Ability to change fonts size and face attributes
* Ability to use the NEXTSTEP spell checking panel
* EMACS key bindings
InForms requires NEXTSTEP 3.0 or better and it is available in
multiple-architecture binary form. MAB or fat binary software runs on
Motorola-based NeXT computers, Intel, and HP PA-RISC based systems.
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.lang.postscript,comp.publish.prepress,comp.sys.next.software
From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: DisplayTalk
Message-ID: <1995Jun2.141645.14471@boba.rhein-main.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Organization: Borris Balzer, RZ & DTP
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:16:45 GMT
Hi!
A FAQ-file depending to debugging PostScripts-fonts on a NeXT-Computer
- black hardware - "NeXTClassic" :-) - refers to an application called
"DisplayTalk". I suggest it's a developer-tool for display PostScript,
but it should be able to debug printerfonts, too.
This application - depending to my informations - was offered from
Adobe, but Adobe dropped NeXT-software. :-(
Does anybody here know about DisplayTalk, where to get it, how much it
is, ... Does anyone from Adobe read this stuff?
Thanks for any answers
- Borris -
P.S.: please excuse my bad English - it isn't my native language.
P.P.S.: Regard the Followup-to.
--
borris@boba.rhein-main.de is/t: Borris Balzer - Kennedyallee 34
D-60596 Frankfurt am Main - Tel +49-69-639266 - Facsimile +49-69-6312324
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jeffa@wri.com (Jeff Adams)
Subject: Re: EPS->Tiff with specified dpi
Message-ID: <D9I2xz.151@wri.com>
Sender: news@wri.com ( )
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
References: <D9HKFK.L5@manki.toppoint.de>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:27:35 GMT
Hello,
You could try my initial attempts at such a utility in:
http://www.wri.com/~jeffa/nextstep.html
EPStoTIFF.compressed is a project that will create an
epstotiff executable which you can use on the command line:
usage : epstotiff [-2g|-8g|-8rgb|-12rgb|-24rgb]
[-none|-lzw|-jpeg [-f fval]|-packbits] [-dpi ival]
[-alpha] [-minIsBlack] [epsfile]
It uses NEXTSTEP's built in routines to create TIFFs from EPSs
so the quality of the TIFFs are not any different than
what you get in other places in NEXTSTEP.
The -dpi option will allow you to create higher resolution
TIFFs from the EPSs, and the other options will let you
create transparency as well as different window depths.
so you can call it in the following way:
epstotiff file.eps > file.tiff
The code seems to get stdin okay, but not stdout,
so you need to do something like
epstotiff file.eps > file.tiff
tifftopnm file.tiff > file.ppm
instead of being able to do:
epstotiff file.eps | tifftopnm > file.ppm
If you find a fix for this please let me know!
I think there is another program called eps2tiff on
the German Peanuts archive as well...
Jeff
----------------------------------------------------------------
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jeffa@wri.com (NeXTMail and MIME accepted)
http://www.wri.com/~jeffa
Wolfram Research Inc.
From: eruck@ahoynet.com ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 1995 00:12:17 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470
Message-ID: <3qllii$ge1@news.cais.com>
Is there anyone out there running SoftPC under NeXT 3.3 on an intel
platform that might give me some help??
THANKS..
Eric Ruck
DAY: eruck@rdr.com
NIGHT: eruck@ahoynet.com
From: reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RE: EPS->TIFF
Date: 1 Jun 1995 08:27:59 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@phakt.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3qkm9v$7ea@phakt.usc.edu>
Summary: Pixel Magician
Keywords: eps-tiff
My suggestion would be a commercial app "Pixel Magician" by Bacchus in Santa Monica, CA.
They will convert any graphics format to any graphics format and retain the original dpi, etc. information of the original graphics file. They also allow you to alter the same aspects at will.
I don't know of a freeware/shareware, though.
Matthew
--
"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RightBrain? Rulers fat? Glen?
Date: 2 Jun 1995 16:34:10 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3qnei2$2458@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: rulers rightbrain
anybody know if RightBrain is still around? Was Rulers
ever made fat? Glen, are you out there?
we have a registered copy who's user just moved to an hp...
thanks!
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Subject: Re: backup
Message-ID: <1995Jun2.161016.6254@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 16:10:16 GMT
References: <3qi36u$6or@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
In article <3qi36u$6or@news.cs.brandeis.edu> mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall) writes:
>hi,
>
>do you have a favorite back-up technique? what works well for black
>hardware? i am actually interested in hearing about your experience with
>hardware and pricing. do you have recommendations for dat, exabyte,
>optical, and zip drives.
>
I am using a WangDAT and SafetyNet. I have no stories because I have
no problems. "It just works. (tm?)"
Well, there is one small problem. SafetyNet lacks a find utility to
help locate files in the archive. I have requested same in a future
release but it seems I am the only person in the world who would find
this useful.
--
Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help, nedd graphing pallet/object/app
Date: 2 Jun 1995 14:35:42 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3qn7ju$cvn@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3qn41l$fke@news.bdm.com>
In article <3qn41l$fke@news.bdm.com> Jeff Franco
<jeff_franco@notes.pw.com> writes:
> I need an object/pallet/app that can accept data and generate
spreadsheet
> type graphs. I haven't been able to find anything yet. Parasheet won't
> work, because there's no API that will accept my data and make a graph
> on my app. I imagine the financial people have had to do this same
thing
> in their apps. I would appreciate any help or direction in the matter.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff Franco
> jeff_franco@notes.pw.com
The Questor/Graphity spreadsheet/graphics bundle from Xanthus would
probably meet your needs. They both feature powerful API's. Let me know
if you'd like more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: Jeff Franco <jeff_franco@notes.pw.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help, nedd graphing pallet/object/app
Date: 2 Jun 1995 13:34:45 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <3qn41l$fke@news.bdm.com>
I need an object/pallet/app that can accept data and generate spreadsheet
type graphs. I haven't been able to find anything yet. Parasheet won't
work, because there's no API that will accept my data and make a graph
on my app. I imagine the financial people have had to do this same thing
in their apps. I would appreciate any help or direction in the matter.
Thanks,
Jeff Franco
jeff_franco@notes.pw.com
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Database servers under NeXTSTEP?
Date: 2 Jun 1995 12:24:02 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9506021705.AA02569@hukatronic.cz>
Hi All,
I am looking for the most complete list of the database servers running under
NeXTSTEP.
Thank you in advance.
---
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: james@emerald.netrix.net (James R. Pooton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: E-mail Autoresponder for NS?
Date: 2 Jun 1995 22:39:50 GMT
Organization: Netrix Internet System Design, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net>
Is anyone out there using any e-mail autoresponder software under
NeXTstep? (basically I want to automatically send a piece of mail back to
anyone sending a piece of e-mail to foo@netrix.net)
Any help, pointers, or compined binaries :-) would be great !!
Thanks in advance..........
--
-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-
James R. Pooton President/Techincal Director
mailto:james@netrix.net Netrix Internet System Design, Inc.
(NeXTmail & MIME Welcome) http://www.netrix.net
-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-
From: pdavis@copernicus.bbn.com (Peter Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DisplayTalk
Date: 2 Jun 1995 17:29:45 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman Inc.
Message-ID: <3qnhq9$off@info-server.bbn.com>
References: <1995Jun2.141645.14471@boba.rhein-main.de>
Borris Balzer (borris@boba.rhein-main.de) wrote:
: A FAQ-file depending to debugging PostScripts-fonts on a NeXT-Computer
: - black hardware - "NeXTClassic" :-) - refers to an application called
: "DisplayTalk". I suggest it's a developer-tool for display PostScript,
: but it should be able to debug printerfonts, too.
: This application - depending to my informations - was offered from
: Adobe, but Adobe dropped NeXT-software. :-(
: Does anybody here know about DisplayTalk, where to get it, how much it
: is, ... Does anyone from Adobe read this stuff?
Adobe still sell LaserTalk for Macintosh and Windows platforms. This
program lets you step through your PostScript code an examine the
stack,contents of dictionaries, etc. I don't know if they still sell
DisplayTalk or not. At one time, there was a DisplayTalk for the
DECstation with Display PostScript, and it was pretty useful.
Another possibility is Acquired Knoweldge's Download Mechanic, a
similar program to let you interactively control you PostScript job.
-pd
--
Peter Davis "Education is not the 617/873-4145
BBN Educational Technologies filling of a pail, but FAX: 617/873-2455
150 Cambridge Park Drive the lighting of a fire." pdavis@bbn.com
Cambridge, MA 02140 -- W. B. Yeats
URL: http://copernicus.bbn.com/0/people/PDavis/homepage.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rsilver@mtkgc.com (Russell "RudeBoy" Silverman)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Copy of Kermit or TIP to run with P
Message-ID: <D9KGEC.B17@sgc.com>
Sender: news@sgc.com
Organization: Sakura Global Capital, NYC
References: <3qar64$egv@foxbat.pix.za>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 22:13:23 GMT
I'm not familiar with Gatekeeper, but I am presently using PPP2.2.2.x
and kermit on my stand-alone to communicate with my internet provider.
It works just dandy. The kermit should actually be unnecessary once
I develop chat scripts, but since the method I'm using works, and
takes little extra effort I'm too busy to worry about it.
I found the documentation to be pretty complete on how to setup PPP2.2.2.x.
You should be able to get a fairly recent binary for kermit at orst. I
actually compiled mine from source obtained from the columbia site.
Good luck.
--later, RS
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 3 Jun 1995 00:49:03 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch>
daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote:
> zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
> : What kind of news readers are available for Next and
where?
By far the best NeXT-NewsReader that we have seen is
Alexandra. It doesn't crash like NewsGrazer, and is fast and
simple to use. You can get the posting sites from the
person who wrote it. E-mail to:
tini@gurke.ping.de
H. Craig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: petergun@coffeehaus.com (Stephane I. Matis)
Subject: Re: tin-1.3 compiles with gcc-2.5.8 only
Message-ID: <D9Jz24.C1J@coffeehaus.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Organization: >> coffeehaus << " We percolate great ideas. "
References: <3qkfgt$pmo@neptune.ethz.ch>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 15:58:51 GMT
Daniel Gerald Kluge (daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch) wrote:
: Although the NeXT cc claims to be an gcc 2.5.8 it isn't able to compile the
: source, and the original gcc (5h to build) does...
Could you place the executables on ftp.cs.orst.edu ? Thanks.
: You can consider that funny or not...
Not ... but I'm not surprised.
: -daniel
: --
: Daniel G. Kluge - cs-student @ Federal Institute of Technology Zurich
: E-Mail: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) [ Pager 152-99-54082 ]
--
petergun
R-name : Stephane I. Matis
E-mail : petergun@coffeehaus.com
From: A.Stochniol@ic.ac.uk (A. Stochniol)
Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.user-friendly,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ANNOUNCE: asWedit 1.1 - HTML 3, 2 & text editor for X/Motif
Date: 3 Jun 1995 10:15:16 GMT
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine, London
Sender: astoch@cc.ic.ac.uk (Dr A. Stochniol)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qpcnk$ktt@oban.cc.ic.ac.uk>
Keywords: HTML, HTML3, HTML2, HTML authoring, WWW, text editor, Motif, X-Window
Originator: astoch@sg1
Announcing ...
--------------
asWedit HTML 3 and HTML 2 editor Version 1.1 (English Release)
What
----
asWedit is an easy to use HTML 3, HTML 2 and text editor for X Window
System and Motif. This '3-in-1' release offers a standard text editing
mode and context-sensitive HyperText Mark-up Language (HTML 3 and HTML 2)
modes for editing of files used on the World Wide Web (WWW).
HTML features
-------------
o context-sensitive HTML 3 or HTML 2 mode; only tags valid in the
current context are available
o full support for all HTML 3 tags and attributes based on the
HTML 3 Document Type Definition (DTD) as of 24 March 1995
(we think it is the first HTML 3 editor :-) )
o full support for all HTML 2 tags and attributes based on the
HTML 2 Document Type Definition (DTD) as of 29 March 1995 (v 1.25)
o creation of correct HTML 3 or HTML 2 documents
o support for different styles of editing: assistive tagging, cut and
paste, by hand and parse
o attribute editors
o rich set of entities, including greek and user-defined ones
o comprehensive context-sensitive, hypertext help with topics
on a selected tag and edited attribute (version related)
o on-line hints when importing and correcting legacy HTML documents
o preview mode that uses Netscape 1.1, Mosaic 2.5, Arena or Lynx
(interprocess communication is used for Netscape and Mosaic)
General features
----------------
o modern graphical user interface (GUI)
o multiple editing windows
o pop-up menu for mouse-oriented editing
o user customizable toolbar
o comprehensive context sensitive, hypertext on-line help
o multiple undo and redo of edit actions
o all standard editing features like: text Cut, Copy and Paste,
bookmarks, pair matching, search and replace, etc.
o commands to change case of letters, spell and sort
o formatting commands (move, indent, re-format etc.)
o user customizable filters and commands
o customization via the standard X11/Motif resources method
o easy localization to left-to-right languages (8-bit characters)
o special no HTML mode for quick start-up and plain text editing
Who by
------
Andrzej Stochniol (A.Stochniol@ic.ac.uk)
30 Hatch Road, London SW16 4PN, UK.
Release Date
------------
30 May 1995
Availability
------------
asWedit is available for free for students and staff in education and
charitable non-profit organizations, and for free evaluation by
individuals and commercial organizations. See the license for details.
asWedit is available in binary form by anonymous ftp from:
<URL:ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/www/asWedit/>
The above site is known also as: "sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk" and supports
all methods of file downloading, i.e. ftp, http, gopher, ftpmail, ...
The software is mirrored in US on:
<URL:ftp://ftp.umbc.edu/pub/unix/www/asWedit/>
Following platforms are supported:
file Id System OS
----------------------------------------------------
rs6k.aix3.2.3 IBM RS/6000 AIX 3.2.3
rs6k.aix3.2.5 IBM RS/6000 AIX 3.2.5
sgi.irix4 SGI IRIX 4.0.x
sgi.irix5 SGI IRIX 5.x
sparc.sunos4 SUN Sparc SunOS 4.1.3
sparc.solaris2.3 SUN Sparc SunOS 5.3
sparc.solaris2.4 SUN Sparc SunOS 5.4
hp.hpux9 HP9000/700 HP-UX 9.x
alpha.osf-v2 DEC Alpha OSF/1 V2.0
fat3.next3 HP-PA,NeXT,i486 NeXTSTEP 3.x
i486.linux PC, i486 Linux
i486.linux_dyna PC, i486 Linux (libXm req.)
To obtain the binary distribution please download the compressed tar file
for your platform and then unpack it. For example for IRIX 5 download
a file asWedit-1.1-sgi.irix5.tar.Z. To unpack it you can use the
following:
zcat asWedit-1.1-sgi.irix5.tar.Z | tar xvf -
(the distribution will be placed into asWedit-1.1 directory).
If you want to use Emacs bindings get the following file as well:
emacs-mode-asWedit-1.1.tar.Z
--
Andrzej
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A.Stochniol@ic.ac.uk
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: RightBrain? Rulers fat? Glen?
Date: 2 Jun 1995 19:33:24 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3qnp24$51g@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3qnei2$2458@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Kelley Wittmeyer writes
> anybody know if RightBrain is still around? Was Rulers
> ever made fat? Glen, are you out there?
RightBrain is no longer around. Glenn now works at Adobe. AFS bought
the rights to PasteUp, but I think Glenn released almost everything
else into the public domain. Can anyone confirm whether the source
for Rulers was stuffed somewhere on cs.orst? Henry McG, did you take it?
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: C Source Beautifier
Date: 1 Jun 1995 16:31:19 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qkq0n$h86@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <3qjvia$e62@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Peter Geissler (pgeiss@giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote:
: Hi everybody,
: I am looking for a c source code beautifier,
: which eg. makes keywords appear as bold,
: comments as italic, organizes {} in
: a nice way and prints a header with file
: name and page number on each side of the
: listing.
: Does such a thing exists and where can it
: be found ?
For printed source, use vgrind.
For online source, you can use RTFSyntax, which colors (and
changes fonts) for your source based on regular expressions.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
rgc@cs.umd.edu
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~rgc
From: peter@mathworks.com (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DisplayTalk
Date: 2 Jun 1995 20:33:17 GMT
Organization: The MathWorks, Inc., Natick, MA 01760
Message-ID: <3qnsid$n5n@turing.mathworks.com>
References: <1995Jun2.141645.14471@boba.rhein-main.de> <3qnhq9$off@info-server.bbn.com>
Peter Davis (pdavis@copernicus.bbn.com) wrote:
: Borris Balzer (borris@boba.rhein-main.de) wrote:
: : A FAQ-file depending to debugging PostScripts-fonts on a NeXT-Computer
: : - black hardware - "NeXTClassic" :-) - refers to an application called
: : "DisplayTalk". I suggest it's a developer-tool for display PostScript,
: : but it should be able to debug printerfonts, too.
: : This application - depending to my informations - was offered from
: : Adobe, but Adobe dropped NeXT-software. :-(
: : Does anybody here know about DisplayTalk, where to get it, how much it
: : is, ... Does anyone from Adobe read this stuff?
: Adobe still sell LaserTalk for Macintosh and Windows platforms. This
: program lets you step through your PostScript code an examine the
: stack,contents of dictionaries, etc. I don't know if they still sell
: DisplayTalk or not. At one time, there was a DisplayTalk for the
: DECstation with Display PostScript, and it was pretty useful.
: Another possibility is Acquired Knoweldge's Download Mechanic, a
: similar program to let you interactively control you PostScript job.
: -pd
: --
: Peter Davis "Education is not the 617/873-4145
: BBN Educational Technologies filling of a pail, but FAX: 617/873-2455
: 150 Cambridge Park Drive the lighting of a fire." pdavis@bbn.com
: Cambridge, MA 02140 -- W. B. Yeats
: URL: http://copernicus.bbn.com/0/people/PDavis/homepage.html
DisplayTalk was part of the Display Postscript SDK for the NeXT from
Adobe. I don't know if it's still on the price lists or not.
From what I understand it's a very fancy version of YAPP.
As of about 6 months ago, it was still on the developers price
list.
-peter
From: rlr@atl.hp.com (Ricky Ralston)
Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.user-friendly,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: asWedit 1.1 - HTML 3, 2 & text editor for X/Motif
Followup-To: comp.editors,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.user-friendly,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 3 Jun 1995 20:21:25 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qqg85$7rl@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <3qpcnk$ktt@oban.cc.ic.ac.uk>
A. Stochniol (A.Stochniol@ic.ac.uk) wrote:
: Availability
: ------------
: asWedit is available for free for students and staff in education and
: charitable non-profit organizations, and for free evaluation by
: individuals and commercial organizations. See the license for details.
Well... I definitely fall into the evaluation class, and I read the license,
but I really didn't see any details that interest me. Such as -
How much?
Ricky
From: ttremain@deepwood.ato.canon.com (Tom Tremain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer
Date: 2 Jun 1995 20:40:55 GMT
Organization: OGI Telecomm
Message-ID: <3qnt0n$6qt@dns.ogitel.net>
We are having problems with NewsGrazer, it keeps dropping on us.
I need help finding a new newsreader...
From: mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R. McGregor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: E-mail Autoresponder for NS?
Date: 3 Jun 1995 16:34:13 -0700
Organization: YoyoDyne Propulsion Systems /|\
Message-ID: <3qqrhl$b6f@crl9.crl.com>
References: <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net> <D9Ln6A.1Ky@midway.uchicago.edu>
:>>Is anyone out there using any e-mail autoresponder software under
:>>NeXTstep? (basically I want to automatically send a piece of mail back to
:>>anyone sending a piece of e-mail to foo@netrix.net)
You can use vacation and the .forward file for the account. Maybe
run it through a perl script if you want some fancy processing.
--
Don McGregor | "Let not England forget her precedence of teaching
mcgredo@crl.com | nations how to live." -- Milton
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help, need graphing pallet/app/object
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 3 Jun 1995 09:19:00 +0100
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1995Jun3.071801.565@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <3qn45k$fke@news.bdm.com>
In article <3qn45k$fke@news.bdm.com> Jeff Franco
<jeff_franco@notes.pw.com> writes:
> I need an object/pallet/app that can accept data and generate
spreadsheet
> type graphs. I haven't been able to find anything yet. Parasheet won't
> work, because there's no API that will accept my data and make a graph
> on my app. I imagine the financial people have had to do this same
thing
> in their apps. I would appreciate any help or direction in the matter.
Off hand, I can suggest Mesa and ChartSmith. Both have APIs that can
produce graphs from table data.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer
Date: 4 Jun 1995 15:19:09 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qsfct$94@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <3qnt0n$6qt@dns.ogitel.net>
Tom Tremain (ttremain@deepwood.ato.canon.com) wrote:
: We are having problems with NewsGrazer, it keeps dropping on us.
: I need help finding a new newsreader...
Hi Tom,
there is also Alexandra.app. But IMHO, the best Newsreader is tin,
because it is the only Newsreader for NeXT which can handle threads (as far
as I know). Only text-based, so nothing NeXT-ish ;-))
Greetings,
Rainer
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+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| e-mail private Rainer.Sokoll@Jena.Thur.De work rainer@con.de (NeXTMail ok) |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: davis@coaster.com (Robert Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: real GnuPlot-Frontend
Date: 3 Jun 1995 01:49:50 -0700
Organization: independent
Message-ID: <3qp7ne$2td@coaster.coaster.com>
References: <3qk3p7$39t@sun1.uni-essen.de>
Stefan Ried <ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys> wrote:
>
>NeXT-Users,
>
>is somebody out there having a real stable gnuplot frontend for the NeXT ?
>I don't mean gnuterm for NeXT.
>
>GnuTerm ist still commandline stuff and I don't understand why we are
>not going to improve Robert Davis' real frontend. I just build a fat
>(Intel,Black) binary out of the sources:
>
> ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/sources:
>
> 1796931 Jun 16 1993 Gnuplot1.2_src.tar.Z
>
This source is pretty old and ugly -- it was basically my first
NeXTSTEP app. I worked for some time on a complete rewrite but never
finished it.
Theoretically, writing a front end for gnuplot is pretty simple
because gnuplot can produce valid EPS plots that are easy to plop into
Views. The old front end source that you found must be linked with
the gnuplot sources creating a big Gnuplot.app. A better solution
(the one I was working on) would be for Gnuplot.app to spawn a
separate gnuplot process using whatever gnuplot was already installed
on your system as the plotting engine -- it would transparently send
commands to this process and receive the EPS and diagnostics back.
Some time ago when I was working on a second version of Gnuplot.app, I
got that working fairly well. For anyone who wants to pursue this,
here's the real snag:
In order to do things this way, you must be able to parse gnuplot
files -- the app needs to be able to read them and set various state.
If gnuplot had a well-defined grammar, this wouldn't be any problem.
However, instead of using yacc/lex, it uses some crude, tangled
parsing code to read its own files, and that would have to be
replicated in a Gnuplot.app. It's not hard, just tedious, and I
didn't finish it.
If anyone wants to play with this, I *may* be able to dig up the code
in whatever state I left it -- but no promises :-)
Rob
--
Robert Davis (NEW ADDRESS: davis@coaster.com) "Look up, Hannah."
From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: backup
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 3 Jun 1995 08:15:38 -0500
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation
Message-ID: <3qpn9q$26i@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com>
References: <3qi36u$6or@news.cs.brandeis.edu> <1995Jun2.161016.6254@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Bob Peirce #305 (rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
: In article <3qi36u$6or@news.cs.brandeis.edu> mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall) writes:
: >hi,
: >
: >do you have a favorite back-up technique? what works well for black
: >hardware? i am actually interested in hearing about your experience with
: >hardware and pricing. do you have recommendations for dat, exabyte,
: >optical, and zip drives.
: >
: I am using a WangDAT and SafetyNet. I have no stories because I have
: no problems. "It just works. (tm?)"
Same Here, also with a WangDAT and SafetyNet.
: Well, there is one small problem. SafetyNet lacks a find utility to
: help locate files in the archive. I have requested same in a future
: release but it seems I am the only person in the world who would find
: this useful.
Well, Bob, you are not the only one who would find this useful. I've
requested this feature as well. What would really be nice is a command
line utility as well as one integrated into the .app. With the cmd. line
utility a shell script or something could search through an entire
directory of .arch.gz files.
Trey
--
Trey McClendon TYBRIN Corporation
trey@hsv.tybrin.com Huntsville, AL
NeXT / MIME Mail Accepted Fax: 205-837-3472
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: E-mail Autoresponder for NS?
Date: 3 Jun 1995 13:33:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qpoam$eo1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net>
James R. Pooton writes
> Is anyone out there using any e-mail autoresponder software under
> NeXTstep? (basically I want to automatically send a piece of mail back to
> anyone sending a piece of e-mail to foo@netrix.net)
What about using the simple unix vacation utility?
man vacation for more details.
--
Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/
Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: rwach@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Chip Ach)
Subject: Re: E-mail Autoresponder for NS?
Message-ID: <D9Ln6A.1Ky@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Cc: james@netrix.net
Organization: UChicago strn fanclub
References: <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net>
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 13:37:22 GMT
In article <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net>,
James R. Pooton <james@netrix.net> wrote:
>Is anyone out there using any e-mail autoresponder software under
>NeXTstep? (basically I want to automatically send a piece of mail back to
>anyone sending a piece of e-mail to foo@netrix.net)
I believe procmail can do this if you set it up correctly. Procmail,
the source, is around on many ftp sites and, as I recall, compiled
easily on my machine. I have a binary for NS 3.0 on real (black)
hardware if you or anyone else wants it. (If you do, speak quickly;
my NeXT goes bye bye from the net on Weds morning for the summer. :/
-C
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Walnut Creeks Internet Info CD: lookup compiled?
Keywords: lookup, Walnut Creek, CD-ROM, Internet Info CD
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 11:35:55 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jun4.113555.11123@proximus.north.de>
Summary: Did anyone compile successfully the "lookup" program from Walnut Creeks CD-ROM "Internet Info"?
Hi.
On the latest release of Walnut Creek's CD-ROM "Internet Info", there is a
utility called "lookup" that is supposed to search for keywords in a hashed
database containing inverted indexes of all files on the CD. The program
"lookup" is compiled for Linux, Slowlaris, SunOS, NetBSD and DOS. Of course
not for NEXTSTEP... Fortunatelly the sources are included on the CD-ROM.
Unfortunately I was not able to compile the little program. (Well, I was
able to compile it, even without any error with -Wall, but it does not work,
no keywords are found...)
So my question is wheather anyone on the net owns this CD and did manage to
get "lookup" to work.
This would be really great, as building an .index.store is quite problematic:
gemoe@proximus 915> ps -auxw | egrep "ixb|^U" | grep -v "egrep ixb" 13:14
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND
gemoe 6169 21.8 18.5 44.6M 5.91M p2 R N 22hr ixbuild -fgslcdv -LEnglish .
gemoe@proximus 916> ls -lag /LocalLibrary/INTERNET/.index.store 13:15
-rw-r--r-- 1 gemoe wheel 42598400 Jun 4 13:16 /LocalLibrary/INTERNET/.index.store
And it is not finished yet... :-(
Any help is appreciated,
Gerhard.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: rcs 5.6.7.4
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 18:39:19 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jun4.183919.15822@proximus.north.de>
Hi.
Did anyone compile rcs 5.6.7.4 and checked it with rcstest?
rcs compiled more or less ok (well, rather less, because there were a few
implicit declarations I was not able to get rid off), but...
gemoe@proximus 195> CC='cc' CFLAGS='-Dhas_conf_h -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall' DIFF='/usr/local/bin/diff' LDFLAGS='' LDLIBS=''
PATH=.:/usr/local/bin/.:$PATH rcstest -v
+ test -d RCS
rmdir=:
+ rm -f a.11 a.12 a.3x1 a.c RCS/a.c RCS/a.d RCS/a._
+ echo 1.1
+ echo 1.1.1.1
+ echo 1.2
+ /usr/local/bin/diff -c a.11 a.3x1
diff=/usr/local/bin/diff -c
+ rcs -i -L -ta.11 a.c
RCS file: RCS/a.c
done
+ test -r RCS/a.c
+ rlog a.c
+ rm -f RCS/a.c
+ cp a.11 a.c
+ ci -ta.11 -mm a.c
RCS/a.c <-- a.c
initial revision: 1.1
done
+ test -r RCS/a.c
+ rcs -L a.c
RCS file: RCS/a.c
done
+ test ! -f a.c
+ co a.c
RCS/a.c --> a.c
revision 1.1
done
+ test -f a.c
+ /usr/local/bin/diff -c a.11 a.c
+ co -l a.c
RCS/a.c --> a.c
revision 1.1 (locked)
done
+ test -f a.c
+ /usr/local/bin/diff -c a.11 a.c
+ cp a.12 a.c
+ ci -mm a.c
RCS/a.c <-- a.c
new revision: 1.2; previous revision: 1.1
done
+ co a.c
RCS/a.c --> a.c
revision 1.2
done
+ /usr/local/bin/diff -c a.12 a.c
+ rm -f a.c
+ co -r1.1 a.c
RCS/a.c --> a.c
revision 1.1
done
+ /usr/local/bin/diff -c a.11 a.c
*** a.11 Sun Jun 4 20:19:07 1995
--- a.c Sun Jun 4 20:19:15 1995
***************
*** 1 ****
--- 1,2 ----
1.1
+ 1.2
+ echo #can't retrieve first revision
#can't retrieve first revision
+ exit 1
So if anyone compiled rcs-5.6.7.4 successfully, could she or he send me
her/his conf.h and Makefile (NEXTMAIL)? This would be great!
Thanks, Gerhard.
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X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T
NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: GDI For System Statistics
Message-ID: <D9o99q.8rs@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <robe0149.801868612@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 23:29:50 GMT
robe0149@gold.tc.umn.edu wrote:
: Does anyone know abt a GDI that shows data related to system usage?
: Something along the lines of X-Windows tool that shows a constantly
: updated graph of system usages.
There's a program called Monitor.app that will do that. It should be on
the archives. It generates nice graphs based on many areas of system
performance (memory, disk, network...)
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: Re: Pentium90 NS 3.3, DOS config query
Message-ID: <D9oA3z.CMJ@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3qg3hs$rp@mustang.alleg.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 23:47:59 GMT
ANI (guptaa@alleg.edu) wrote:
: I am new to networking. I need to know how to get this information from my
: machine which is an Intel Pentium 90, 16M RAM and 800+M HD, running NS3.3, with
: a DOS partition. It has an EtherExpress 16C ethernet card at port 300, IRQ 11.
: If anyone is familiar with this configuration please send me this info to my
: account (I do not visit this newsgroup often.)
: How do I find :
: 1. The name of the "packet driver" with the ethernet card?
: 2. The packet vector number (In Hex, like 0x <number>)?
: 3. The I/O number/address (Hex, same, 0x <number>)?
: 4. Name server IP address (For DNS searches)?
The packet driver comes on the DOS install disk taht came with your
EtherExpress.
The I/O number is also called the "Port Adress", which you said is 300,
above.
--Chris
Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst --------------------------------------
computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by |
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad |
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: wjs@foom.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ImageViewer lauched together with OmniImage
Date: 3 Jun 1995 20:46:14 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3qraa6$3ll@foom.omnigroup.com>
References: <1995May24.090631@alpha.ntu.ac.sg>
WILLEM VAN SCHAIK writes:
>After having used ImageViewer already for a couple of years I recently
>installed OmniImageFilter and OmniImage too. When I set OmniImage as
>the default application for for example GIF or TIFF images, the strange
>thing happens that when you double-click a bitmap file, ImageViewer is
>launched too and appears as an icon at the bottom of the screen. To
>avoid misunderstandings: OmniImage will display the picture, so that
>is all OK.
This is a common problem caused by NeXT's failure to allow users to
specify which filter they'd like to use if multiples are installed for
the same type of translation. In this case, ImageViewer comes before
OmniImageFilter alphabetically, so the filter services it advertises
are the ones used to actually translate images.
OmniImage is different from ImageViewer in that OmniImage is
completely stupid about any file format beside TIFFs; it depends on an
external filter (like OmniImageFilter, surprise) to do all the
conversion for it. This benifit to this is that OmniImageFilter runs
as a daemon when other programs call upon it to do filtering, which
means you don't have another icon cluttering up your screen.
ImageViewer has all the brains in the main app, so when its filtering
services are invoked NEXTSTEP launches the main app and gives you
another icon.
Thus, if you run OmniImage and have ImageViewer installed, OmniImage
uses ImageViewer to do the translation.
One way to disable this is to move the file ImageViewer.app/services to
ImageViewer.app/#services or something of the like. This will disable
ImageViewer's filtering capability while still allowing it to do image
translation if you open ImageViewer explicitly.
By the way, I have nothing but the greatest respect for Lennart
Lovstrand, the author of ImageViewer, but he and I took different
approaches to image filtering, both of which have some advantages to
the user. Having the filtering built into the main program (like
ImageViewer) speeds things up slightly and also insures better
feedback if there is an error in the image; also it eliminates the
timeout bug that plagues any NEXTSTEP filtering service. Note that
ImageViewer will also open some GIFs that OmniImage chokes on. (On
the other hand, I think OmniImageFilter is faster on some image types,
and understands more types as well. Not that we can take credit for
this: we used the free library from the SDSC.)
>Related question to the OmniImageFilter makers: will you be supporting
>the new PNG format soon?
Never heard of it. Send us a pointer and we might.
-Wil Shipley
From: Peter Truskier <ptruskier@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DisplayTalk
Date: 3 Jun 1995 22:14:35 GMT
Organization: Institute for Global Communications
Message-ID: <3qqmsb$pp8@igc.apc.org>
References: <1995Jun2.141645.14471@boba.rhein-main.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Borris,
You are right about what Display Talk is (was -:)). Prior to the NeXT
machines adoption of DSP, Adobe had (bought ??) a product called
LaserTalk. It is a tool which allows you to "connect" to a real PS
interpreter in a printer, and use it to test code, view all the stacks,
monitor VM, etc.
DisplayTalk was the NeXT version, which owing to the presence of DSP,
doesn't require a PS printer to provide the interpreter. The last time I
used DisplayTalk, was several NeXT OS versions ago, don't know how
compatible it is, or whether anyone took it over from Adobe.
Good luck,
Peter Truskier
----
ptruskier@igc.apc.org
Peter Truskier
Berkeley, CA, USA
(510) 654-1097 (voice)
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Recommendation for plotting/word processing app?
Date: 4 Jun 1995 03:53:45 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3qrao9$dbn@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I was showing off my slab to a friend who was thinking of getting
either NEXTSTEP or OS/2. It turned out that my friend wasn't really
impressed by the collection of compilers, IB, PB, InstantTeX, Digital
Librarian.
He's looking for plotting software which is integrated with a MS Word-
like word processing app. Since I don't use that kind of software
(I use TeX, Edit.app, TeXEdit, emacs, vi, WriteUp (a little)---but I
don't care about MS Word compatibility or spreadsheets), I didn't
know what to tell him.
So I'm hoping some of you can give me recommendations for a good w.p.
app which is compatible with MS Word files and works with good
spreadsheet and plotting software.
Thanks,
David Finton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bacchus!eric (Eric Bloom)
Subject: Re: EPS->Tiff with specified dpi
Message-ID: <1995Jun4.034413.27439@bacchus.com>
Sender: eric@bacchus.com
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
References: <D9HKFK.L5@manki.toppoint.de>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 03:44:13 GMT
In article <D9HKFK.L5@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred
Roehr) writes:
In article <3qiib2$eud@nrel.nrel.gov> dmwood@leo (David M. Wood) writes:
> Howdy!
> I've been trying to convert EPS gray-scale files into TIFF files with
> *specified* resolutions (300dpi, for example), but they invarably end up
> at a fixed 72 dpi (screen resolution). [I'm trying to synthesize
> `photographs' to be Fourier transformed, and 72 dpi gives ugly spatial
> frequency artifacts, throwing the image baby out with the bathwater.]
> I've tried 'Saving as' TIFFs from Draw, from other graphics apps,
used
> ImageViewer, etc., to no avail: always 72 dpi. I've examined Sam
Leffler's
> TIFF utilities package, but it doesn't appear to do what I need. Am I
> missing the boat entirely about the capabilities of TIFF files?
>
> Can anyone point me to a utility for converting EPS into TIFF of a
> particular dpi, or suggest a workaround?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> David M. Wood || Solid State Theory Group
> dmwood@nrel.nrel.gov || Branch 4510
> Phone: (303) 384-6642 || National Renewable Energy Laboratory
> Fax: (303) 384-6531 || 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401-3393
> No NeXTMail here please :(
Our commercial application, PixelMagician, can rasterize EPS/PS files at any
resolution ( up to 10k x 10k pixels ) with no loss of image quality. The images
can then be saved in any of our supported image output formats, including TIFF,
PICT, TGA etc etc, with the appropriate DPI values.
For more information, please contact:
Bacchus, Inc.
info@bacchus.com (NEXTMAIL)
310 820-9145 (voice)
310 820-5903 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dekorte@parian.bos.marble.com (Steve Dekorte)
Subject: Re: C Source Beautifier
Message-ID: <D9LpMy.82M@marble.com>
Sender: news@marble.com
Organization: Marble Associates, Inc.
References: <3qjvia$e62@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 14:30:34 GMT
pgeiss@giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Peter Geissler) writes:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I am looking for a c source code beautifier,
> which eg. makes keywords appear as bold,
> comments as italic, organizes {} in
> a nice way and prints a header with file
> name and page number on each side of the
> listing.
> Does such a thing exists and where can it
> be found ?
Check out Eval.app on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
--
Steve Dekorte
NeXTstep/Objective-C developer
dekorte@marble.com (MIME & NeXTmail welcome)
http://www.symnet.net/~dekorte
From: ltinguely@ping.ch (Lionel Tinguely)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ScanOmatic V Scantastic ???
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 19:38:45 GMT
Organization: Ping Net Sarl, Lausanne
Message-ID: <3q166u$f5n@starbase1.ping.ch>
Hello !
What do you think is the BEST !!!! ScanOmatic or Scantastic ???
I have a HP ScanJet 3c......
THANKS
Lionel :-)
PS: Don't use UUCP fort E-Mail answer................
Lionel :-)
************************************************************
Lionel Tinguely
E-mail: ltinguely@ping.ch
PS:Don't use UUCP for E-mail
**************************************************************
From: cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Edwin Cikan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: asWedit 1.1 - HTML 3, 2 & text editor for X/Motif
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:42:07 GMT
Organization: Vienna University, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950605144207.747AAEgH.cikan@anne>
References: <3qpcnk$ktt@oban.cc.ic.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Keywords: HTML, HTML3, HTML2, HTML authoring, WWW, text editor, Motif, X-Window
>Announcing ...
>--------------
> asWedit HTML 3 and HTML 2 editor Version 1.1 (English Release)
[ ... ]
>Following platforms are supported:
> file Id System OS
> ----------------------------------------------------
> rs6k.aix3.2.3 IBM RS/6000 AIX 3.2.3
> rs6k.aix3.2.5 IBM RS/6000 AIX 3.2.5
> sgi.irix4 SGI IRIX 4.0.x
> sgi.irix5 SGI IRIX 5.x
> sparc.sunos4 SUN Sparc SunOS 4.1.3
> sparc.solaris2.3 SUN Sparc SunOS 5.3
> sparc.solaris2.4 SUN Sparc SunOS 5.4
> hp.hpux9 HP9000/700 HP-UX 9.x
> alpha.osf-v2 DEC Alpha OSF/1 V2.0
> fat3.next3 HP-PA,NeXT,i486 NeXTSTEP 3.x
^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And what about SPARC?
> i486.linux PC, i486 Linux
> i486.linux_dyna PC, i486 Linux (libXm req.)
--
Edwin CIKAN
Systems Manager
University of Vienna
Institute of Software Technology and Parallel Systems
Liechtensteinstrasse 22
A-1090 Vienna, Austria (EUROPE)
e-mail: cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Internet)
Tel.: +43 1 3105608-84
Fax: +43 1 3105608-88
From: jpowell@trusmadi.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HTML-Editor 0.7 featuring table support
Date: 5 Jun 1995 12:54:11 GMT
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech
Message-ID: <3quupj$2td@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
HTML-Editor0.7 now supports Netscape HTML enhancements. This support will be
expanded with HTML-Editor1.0, which will be HTML 3.0 compliant. The main
feature of this release is an automatic table tag button, which inserts
HTML table tags around columns of data separated by two or more spaces.
A few bugs were fixed. I hope to have 1.0 finished soon, which will support
multiple documents, and include enhancements suggested by many thoughtful
people who took the time to write me. I hope to come up with a more HTML-
novice friendly interface as well.
Version 0.7 is available for Motorola, Intel, HPPA, and SPARC at:
http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/jpowell.html or ftp://scholar.lib.vt.edu/pub/next/
--
James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU
jpowell@scholar.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals
Archives: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://scholar.lib.vt.edu:70/
From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Connectivity to the outside world
Date: 5 Jun 1995 16:03:31 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qv9sj$541@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
I want to send and receive e-mail messages, read newsgroups, and access
the WWW with a Pentium 90 machine in my home. Naturally, I want to do all
this using NEXTSTEP. At the moment I have neither the hardware nor the
software that is required to do the job. As much as possible, I want a
turnkey solution to this problem. I'm willing to pay for reliability and
ease of use. I hasten to add that I'm essentially clueless about how to
proceed in this matter. (I've heard of PPP, SLIP, AOL, etc., but my
knowledge is at a very low level.) I hope some of the readers of this
newsgroup will take a few minutes to supply me with some much-needed
advice. TIA to those who do.
Jim
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 5 Jun 1995 04:15:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3qu0cj$sjl@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer
Date: 5 Jun 1995 11:00:52 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <3qv674$6s0@papoose.quick.com>
References: <3qnt0n$6qt@dns.ogitel.net> <3qsfct$94@rainix.jena.thur.de>
In article <3qsfct$94@rainix.jena.thur.de>,
Rainer Sokoll <rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de> wrote:
>there is also Alexandra.app. But IMHO, the best Newsreader is tin,
>because it is the only Newsreader for NeXT which can handle threads (as far
>as I know). Only text-based, so nothing NeXT-ish ;-))
I used to use tin as well. About a year ago, though, I switched to
strn. It can handle both XOVER and mthreads style threads, and
has an interface which I prefer to tin.
I've never found a GUI newsreader that I prefer to either tin
or strn. I've also never found a character based reader that
I prefer to strn.
You can grab strn from the directory:
ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/readers/trn/strn
and mthreads from the file:
ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/readers/trn/mthreads-3.1.tar.gz
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From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Speed of Mathematica
Date: 5 Jun 1995 15:18:41 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qv78h$1ik@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
I have a question about the relative speed of Mathematica on (1) a NeXT
68040 25 MHz cube, (2) a HP 712/80, and (3) a 120 MHz Canon object.station
(announced 5/30/95): How much faster, approximately, would a "typical"
Mathematica notebook run on the HP 712/80 and the 120 MHz Canon
object.station? I'm looking for ballpark figures, such as "4x" or "5x."
Basically, I want to know how much floating point capability I'd be
sacrificing if I purchased a 120 MHz Canon object.station rather than a HP
712/80. Thanks in advance to those who respond to this RFI.
Jim
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS->Tiff with specified dpi
Date: 5 Jun 1995 04:42:43 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qu203$p9h@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3qiib2$eud@nrel.nrel.gov>
dmwood@leo (David M. Wood) writes:
> Howdy!
> I've been trying to convert EPS gray-scale files into TIFF
> files with *specified* resolutions (300dpi, for example), but
> they invarably end up at a fixed 72 dpi (screen resolution).
> [I'm trying to synthesize `photographs' to be Fourier transformed,
> and 72 dpi gives ugly spatial frequency artifacts, throwing the
> image baby out with the bathwater.]
I tend to use PixelMagician for that, though I'm pretty sure
TIFFany II is also able to handle resolutions correctly. Both
are commercial applications. PixelMagician makes more sense for
the specific thing you're talking about, but TIFFany II is very
nice image-processing application. It'd be overkill for just
getting DPI's set right, but it's great if you have more exotic
things to do.
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: CAP6.0 and NeXTSTEP 3.1?????
Date: 5 Jun 1995 05:16:18 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qu3v2$q3i@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1995May30.055626.11186@antigone.com>
mross@antigone.com writes:
> I am trying to install CAP 6.0pl194 on a NeXTcube running NeXTSTEP 3.1.
In general, I'd recommend running NS-3.2 over NS-3.1, though it's
been so long that I don't remember what it was about 3.1 that made
me stay away from it (I went from 3.0 to 3.2, skipping 3.1).
> It looks like the configure script is trying to work with NeXTSTEP
> 2.0, and does not try to even compile anything in the support/ethertalk
> directory.
There are some changes to the configure or makefile setup to get CAP
to work correctly on NS-3.x. I don't have the changes right here,
but I can dig them up if you need them. If I remember right, I have
the updates for CAP patch level 100, or maybe 126, and the patches
need to be slightly different for patch level 192.
(I don't want to dig up the updates right now, but I want to reply
to your article before it disappears from our usenet hub...)
> However, I thought that NeXTSTEP 3.0 added support for Ethertalk
> in which case shouldn't I be compiling aarpd? Or should I be
> compiling UAB? The Appletalk support that came with NeXTSTEP
> 3.0 definitely did not require a hardware bridge, and CAP is said
> to be a good replacement for the now-defunct NeXT implementation
> of Appletalk.
I've only run CAP by bouncing it off fastpaths (as the hardware
bridge). There was someone, in Japan I think, who was working
on native ethertalk support for CAP on NeXTSTEP. I don't know
how far along that got. The fact that NeXTSTEP 3.0 does not
require a hardware bridge is not relevent to CAP. NeXT did not
give any source code to the people maintaining CAP, so CAP is
pretty much in the same state it was before NS-3.0.
> I am very lost and any pointers would be appreciated.
I hope this is of some help...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: cvs 1.4a2 enters infinite loops -> 4 chars lost?
Keywords: cvs
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:20:52 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jun5.152052.23237@proximus.north.de>
Hi,
I just compiled and tested cvs 1.4a2 (including the loginfo patch and
the wrappers patch), but had some problems. I made a new test-repository
with cvsinit. Everything seemed ok. I then did in /tmp a "cvs co
loginfo" just to see if it works. Seemed ok. I did a cvs status
loginfo inside the new /tmp/loginfo dir. Seemed ok. I made a "cvs status
-l loginfo" in /tmp. Seemed ok. I made a "cvs status loginfo" in /tmp.
--> I entered an infinite loop!
cvs status: Examining loginfo
[...]
cvs status: Examining loginfo/
[...]
cvs status: Examining loginfo//
[...]
cvs status: Examining loginfo///
[...] and so on...
Not nice.
Even worse is "cvs release -d loginfo" in /tmp.
--> ?
?
?
? nfo
?
?
?
? nfo
[...]
Again, an infinite loop!
How about a "cvs co CVSROOT"?
--> cvs checkout: Updating CVSROOT
cvs checkout: nothing known about CVSROOT/info
cvs checkout: nothing known about CVSROOT/itinfo
cvs checkout: nothing known about CVSROOT/les
cvs checkout: nothing known about CVSROOT/nfo
? CVSROOT/
? CVSROOT/
? CVSROOT/
cvs checkout: Updating CVSROOT/
cvs checkout: nothing known about CVSROOT//info
cvs checkout: nothing known about CVSROOT//itinfo
cvs checkout: nothing known about CVSROOT//les
cvs checkout: nothing known about CVSROOT//nfo
? CVSROOT//
? CVSROOT//
? CVSROOT//
cvs checkout: Updating CVSROOT//
[...]
Hm. Looking at the names "info", "les", "nfo" and "itinfo", it appears
to me as if cvs swallows the first four chars of the files! Another
check with a new source might show the problem:
mkdirs /tmp/test/subdir1; cd /tmp/test;
cvs import -m "Imported test" testdir gemoe start
--> N testdir/ir1
cvs [import aborted]: cannot open ir1: No such file or directory
Obviously again, the first four chars are missing! So the question
remains:
Where are the four characters swallowed?
========================================
System Information:
NEXTSTEP 3.3 (3.2 Dev), black h/w
diffutils 2.7
rcs 5.6.7.4 (might be a problem, see other posting)
Any help is more than appreciated, I already tried 2 days...
Gerhard.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DisplayTalk
Date: 5 Jun 1995 19:03:26 -0000
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qvkdu$66o@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3qqmsb$pp8@igc.apc.org>
Peter Truskier <ptruskier@igc.apc.org> writes
> Borris,
>
> You are right about what Display Talk is (was -:)). Prior to the NeXT
> machines adoption of DSP, Adobe had (bought ??) a product called
> LaserTalk. It is a tool which allows you to "connect" to a real PS
> interpreter in a printer, and use it to test code, view all the stacks,
> monitor VM, etc.
>
> DisplayTalk was the NeXT version, which owing to the presence of DSP,
> doesn't require a PS printer to provide the interpreter. The last time I
> used DisplayTalk, was several NeXT OS versions ago, don't know how
> compatible it is, or whether anyone took it over from Adobe.
When I last enquired about this, I was told that it was still available
from Adobe, as a developer product. This was in the last 12 months or so.
There are usually some Adobe lurkers here....
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From: a5qqc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (Hong Hsu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: dial out via telephone line
Date: 5 Jun 1995 14:24:38 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center
Message-ID: <3qv436$1nt6@news.cuny.edu>
Does NextStep allow to dial out via telephone line through PPP/SLIP to
connect to Sun SPARCstation? Machine could work as a terminal to download
or upload files. I run NextStep 3.3 on Pentium machine, and My modem is ZOOM
VFX 28.8 external faxmodem.
Hong
vhong@lion.cs.qc.edu
From: a5qqc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (Hong Hsu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help on backup
Date: 5 Jun 1995 20:38:19 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center
Message-ID: <3qvpvr$1a37@news.cuny.edu>
I run NextStep 3.3 on Pentium machine, and have 1GB hard drive.
800MB of them are used for NextStep and 200MB for DOS. How can I backup
all NextStep files? Can I use only tar, the UNIX utility?
Any help will be appreciated.
Hong
vhong@lion.cs.qc.edu
From: Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: E-mail Autoresponder for NS?
Date: 5 Jun 1995 21:45:03 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qvtsv$moh@news.next.com>
References: <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net>
In article <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net> james@emerald.netrix.net (James R.
Pooton) writes:
> Is anyone out there using any e-mail autoresponder software under
> NeXTstep? (basically I want to automatically send a piece of mail back to
> anyone sending a piece of e-mail to foo@netrix.net)
>
> Any help, pointers, or compined binaries :-) would be great !!
There's a commercial package to do this as well, called MailBack. I have a
demo I snarfed off the company's server. However, I can't remember the name
of the company or the server address. :)
Can anyone else help?
(I added a cross-post to comp.sys.next.software)
- Mark
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NeXT Computer, Inc. | have called ourselves TOAD THE WET SPROCKET?!
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Here I am, NOT speaking for NeXT.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman)
Subject: This really should be in the FAQ... (dynamic IP)
Message-ID: <D9pLsJ.Muq@ncifcrf.gov>
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:57:54 GMT
I know that this has been posted on before, but I, like many, have a
tendency not to read what doesn't directly affect me. So I'm looking for info
on how to set up TransSys's DialUp IP for dynamic IP. I've fooled around some
with PNI, but could never get it to work for me, while DialUP IP works like a
champ. If anyone could prove me a solution. I would be quite grateful.
Thanks in advance,
David Kelman
kelman@ncifcrf.gov (No NeXTMail, yet)
From: danders@carn3.alleg.edu (David Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Simple statistical app needed
Date: 5 Jun 1995 13:35:14 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <3qv16j$ep8@mustang.alleg.edu>
References: <D95CA7.1IC@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <D95CA7.1IC@midway.uchicago.edu> chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu
(Michael Suk-Young Chwe) writes:
> Hello!
>
> I'm looking for a simple statistical application in which I can enter in
data
> like a spreadsheet, do least-squares regression, and make simple plots.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thank in advance!
> Michael
Michael,
You may want to take a look at Workbench. It includes a set of
statistical tools that will do regression and scatter plots. The data is
entered into Improv for analysis.
You can ftp the code from 'ftp.alleg.edu'.
For now the code only works with black hardware. However, by the end of
July a fat version will be available that will work with black and Intel
hardware. (for Intel hardware the input will come from Quantrix.)
If you have any problems, contact me directly.
David Anderson
Allegheny College
Meadville, PA 16335
danders@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: NS3.3 Postscript Compatibility
Message-ID: <D9puME.4q2@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:08:37 GMT
My HP1200C/PS printed fine under NS3.2. With NS3.3 I am getting
various error messages. Black-text-only seems to print fine. Color
seems to be the major casualty.
I have tried the PPD supplied with NS3.3 as well as the original PPD
which I FTP'd from Adobe) that worked for NS3.2, but to no avail.
Both files appear to be identical.
Should I consider updating HP's postscript firmware?
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>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: murshid@unit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Agfa scanning software
Date: 5 Jun 1995 14:09:31 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3qv36r$6bq@news.cerf.net>
Is there scanning software for the Agfa StudioScan II
Thank you
Murshid
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@sultan.ping.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra newsreader -- where?
Date: 4 Jun 1995 20:14:05 GMT
Organization: The Sultans of Ping F.C.
Message-ID: <3qt46d$13g@sultan.ping.de>
References: <3qmegr$kme@stud.Direct.CA>
rwong@pcr (Robert Wong Jr.) wrote:
> Oh Alexandra, Alexandra, where art thou Alexandra.app?
> <Translation: Where can I find the most recent version of
> Alexandra.app? The version I have is v0.7>
> RWW.
Alexandra 0.8 will be released later this week. You'll find an announcement in the
usual places.
erik
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From: sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: E-mail Autoresponder for NS?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 5 Jun 1995 23:27:25 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r03st$moc@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net>
James R. Pooton (james@emerald.netrix.net) wrote:
: Is anyone out there using any e-mail autoresponder software under
: NeXTstep? (basically I want to automatically send a piece of mail back to
: anyone sending a piece of e-mail to foo@netrix.net)
: Any help, pointers, or compined binaries :-) would be great !!
: Thanks in advance..........
: --
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: mailto:james@netrix.net Netrix Internet System Design, Inc.
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How about Eloquent (Take Three) or On Vacation (Nyro)....
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DataBase product info ??
Date: 29 May 1995 22:36:31 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3qdi9f$8c@danmeasure.dannug.dk>
References: <3obl69$m79@server.ping.ch>
In article <3obl69$m79@server.ping.ch> ltinguely@ping.ch (Lionel Tinguely)
writes:
> Hello !
>
>
> Do you know a Database for NeXTSTEP comparable to ACCESS for Window
>
>
> THANKS
>
>
>
> ******************************************
> Lionel Tinguely
> E-mail: ltinguely@ping.ch
Stone design: Dataphile.app is pretty neat.
try katie@stone.com, and give her my regards.
If they do not have a dealer in your place, they will most likely ship
direct.
The new v.3.0 supports M68K, Intel, Sparc & HPPA-Risc
Good luck
sw@dannug.dk Soren Wang
From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cannot turn off my slab!
Date: 6 Jun 1995 06:42:00 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <3r0tbo$igd@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <3qfbj1$67o@news.cc.utah.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This should go into the FAQ one day...
There are two possibilities:
1) The WS Manager cannot kill all processes. To find out which ones refuse to
die, log in via a back door (ethernet or serial) and look with 'ps axu' which
processes are still running. Shoot them off (with kill) until the machine
shuts itself down. Known culprits are lpd with an uncompleted print job and
some badly-written apps.
2) You have 'automatically reboot' enabled in Preferences (root's preferences).
Turn off.
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh,
Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics
Leiden University
gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
From: sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 6 Jun 1995 06:56:50 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3r0u7i$8uu@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <000DEB27.fc@iqinc.com>
On Sun, 4 Jun 95 13:33:59 PDT Gary Affonso (Gary_Affonso@iqinc.com) wrote:
>>Get one of the native NextsTep apps: OmniWeb, Spiderwoman or Netsurfer.
>>I use Omniweb at home and netscape at work & prefer Omniweb in most respects.
>Here, here! I haven't found OmniWeb to be perfect, but I like it MUCH more than
>NetScape for the Macintosh. In particular, OmniWeb's bookmark features are
>outstanding.
>- Gary
Hate to sound like an echo but OmniWeb is really your best choice. It has
improved dramatically over the last two releases. I much prefer the newest
OmniWeb to any other browser :)
Give it a try :)
Shaun
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: This really should be in the FAQ... (dynamic IP)
Date: 6 Jun 1995 02:45:30 -0000
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r0fga$9v4@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <D9pLsJ.Muq@ncifcrf.gov>
David Kelman writes
> I know that this has been posted on before, but I, like many, have a
> tendency not to read what doesn't directly affect me. So I'm looking for
info
> on how to set up TransSys's DialUp IP for dynamic IP. I've fooled around
some
> with PNI, but could never get it to work for me, while DialUP IP works like a
> champ. If anyone could prove me a solution. I would be quite grateful.
Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote something up on this and put
it on the archive servers last month..
Excerpts from the comp.sys.next.announce post
SUBMISSION: Dynamic IP adddresses and TransSys PNI SLIP
The PNI SLIP package from TransSys is fairly straightforward to setup
if your SLIP connection is provided with a fixed IP address. It's a
bit more challenging to set it up for the situation where your sessions
are given a IP address when they connect (ie, you'll get a different
IP address each time you start up a SLIP session).
I had to have PNI SLIP work with dynamically-assigned IP addresses,
and as near as I can tell I have it working pretty well now. I
thought it would be useful for others if I wrote up what I've done,
and how I've done it.
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/comm/PNI-DynamicIP.rtfd.compressed
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From: root@technomage (Josh Neal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for Eval.app
Date: 6 Jun 1995 16:31:55 GMT
Organization: SONNET Networking - Modesto Sonora Stockton (800)50-ONLINE
Message-ID: <3r1vtr$3rv@moa1.moa.com>
Does anybody know where Eval.app is living these days? I've forgotten
the address.
Thanks much,
Josh
From: psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul Sanders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for a quad-fat tcsh...
Date: 6 Jun 1995 07:32:21 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
Message-ID: <3r10a5$ijt@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get a quad-fat version of tcsh ? I have the
version from stack.nl but it does not contain a SPARC version.
Alternatively if someone has compiled it from source, a copy of your
config.h file would be a help.
Thanks
Paul.
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BT Laboratories, Ipswich IP5 7RE | Fax: +44 1473 642299
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.headers,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cancel <950605180415_60892551@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1qFa7c5w165w@ctsbbs.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 95 13:55:23 MDT
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Cancelled with Waffle by <rkroll@ctsbbs.com>.
From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Builg satan
Date: 6 Jun 1995 12:16:27 GMT
Organization: Seednet, Institute for Information Industry, Taiwan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r1gur$1fk@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
Dear Readers,
I have installed the latest perl5 bin for intel and m68k successfully on
my intel-based PC. While trying to build satan 1.0 as NeXTanswer receipe
stated, I failed . I always get the following message while running
reconfig:
jesse:21# reconfig*
/usr/local/bin/perl: Command not found.
Anyone who can tell me how to solve this problem, I would be very
appreciated.
Simon Chih-L Han
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: leif@pattern.rmnug.org (Leif Smith)
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Message-ID: <1995Jun6.165322.3549@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: leif@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Pattern Research, Denver, Colorado
References: <000DEB27.fc@iqinc.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:53:22 GMT
>
> In particular, OmniWeb's bookmark features are outstanding.
>
> - Gary
Yes. If you really want to understand OmniWeb you have to explore the
bookmark facilities. They are outstanding. I've got a whole "file
system" of related bookmarks pointing to each other. Would not want
to do without it.
--
Leif Smith, Denver
leif@pattern.rmnug.org
From: thomas wells <root@cnw.ks.symbios.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Symbios drvier for NCR PCI HBAs
Date: 6 Jun 1995 21:15:27 GMT
Organization: Symbios Logic
Message-ID: <3r2ghf$9cq@jupiter.WichitaKS.HMPD.COM>
Hi all,
I am an engineer at symbios logic and I am trying to track errors that
people might be having with our driver. I am most interested in a
problem that causes kernel panics.
If you are experiencing this problem with the driver, please forward
me you system configuration and the kernel panic message.
Thank you,
Thomas Wells
Engineer,
Symbios Logic, Inc
(root@cnw.ks.symbios.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
Subject: WTP Comms Software "Connect It"
Message-ID: <D9orJq.H0r@softpac.com.au>
Keywords: communcations connect_it
Sender: dave@softpac.com.au (Dave Thomas)
Organization: Softpac Pty. Ltd., Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:04:38 GMT
Anyone know where I can buy this??
Rgds dave t
DownUnder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <a-gain.hanse.de!stefan@ccwnoc.hanse.de>
Message-ID: <m0sINBu-000btOC@a-gain>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 95 22:20:41 +0100
Subject: NEXTSTEP for SGI
Hi there World!
Some freak told me during the GUUG-Meeting 93 in Wiesbaden,
Germany, that a friend of his saw NEXTSTEP running on a Silicon
Graphics-machine in a lab.
So much for the rumor of the day :-) !
*BUT*
Who is out there, to *really* want
o NEXTSTEP for PowerPC Option #1
o NEXTSTEP for SGI Option #2
o NEXTSTEP for multiprocessor-machines Option #3
(NEXTSTEP for Mach)
o NEXTSTEP for DEC Alpha Option #4
Just go ahead and post your wishes! ; - )
NeXT might count them and get to work!
---
.. Stefan ..
Life has many different colors, but -------- REAL Computing is black!
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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voice + 49 - 40 - 480 79 19 <---> fax + 49 - 40 - 480 11 92
stefan@a-gain.hanse.de ( NeXTmail favorized / MIME o.k.! )
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Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 95 13:33:59 PDT
Message-ID: <000DEB27.fc@iqinc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Gary_Affonso@iqinc.com (Gary Affonso)
Organization: ImagingQuest
>Get one of the native NextsTep apps: OmniWeb, Spiderwoman or Netsurfer.
>I use Omniweb at home and netscape at work & prefer Omniweb in most respects.
Here, here! I haven't found OmniWeb to be perfect, but I like it MUCH more than
NetScape for the Macintosh. In particular, OmniWeb's bookmark features are
outstanding.
- Gary
From: Sebastian Niesen <sniesen@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC
Date: 6 Jun 1995 08:21:14 GMT
Organization: Rheinisch Westfaelische Technische Hochschule Aachen
Message-ID: <3r135q$9bg@news.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <3qllii$ge1@news.cais.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Well, what's the problem?
Sebastian
________________________________________________________________________________
Sebastian Niesen
sniesen@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Student Of Computer Science Tel:
+49-(0)241-911409
RWTH Aachen
http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~sniesen
From: pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it (pisati stefano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MPEG player
Date: 6 Jun 1995 10:28:41 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Message-ID: <3r1akp$2so@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Hi, I've download MPEG Play v 2.6 from the net and I discover that it
is extremely slow on my cube (040 - 25 Mhz 64 Mb of RAM) and I want to
know if there is another player that work good with my machine. I'm
not sure but I think that Play 2.6 don't use DSP... is it true ?
TIA
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: KFC Compile--help
Date: 6 Jun 1995 23:07:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3r2n30$f4j@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <D9r9oG.Bz@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Keywords: KFC, miscKit, SPARC
In article <D9r9oG.Bz@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>,
David Downie <dcdownie@bart.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>I don't have the MiscKit installed so I can't compile KFC.app for
>NS/SPARC. If someone has compiled it quad-fat or would compile it for
>me, I'd appreciate it very much.
If someone would offer (to me) to compile KFC quad-fat to be placed on the
archives I'd appreciate it. Even better would be a job offer so that I
could afford to upgrade :-)
Kurt
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to set up a Web Home Page using HTTPD?
Date: 6 Jun 1995 15:58:45 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3r1tvl$aa3@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
I have just set up my NeXT Colour slab as a Web Server - does anyone know how I
can set up a home page to be accessed by default - that is, by the address
http://mynext.stir.ac.uk/ without having to include the file name (ie
http://mynext.stir.ac.uk/myfile.html/) ?
I'm sure there must be a simple way of doing this (eg using the right
filename)...
I am using NCSA HTTPD 1.3 (downloaded from orst)
As usual all (vaguely) sensible offers of help will be welcomed (if not always
acknowledged...)
--
Donald Baird Tel : +44 1786 467926
Environment Group Fax : +44 1786 472133
Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
Stirling University W3 : http://www.stir.ac.uk/
Scotland FK9 4LA
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From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help on backup
Date: 6 Jun 1995 07:41:38 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <3r1eti$8ie@papoose.quick.com>
References: <3qvpvr$1a37@news.cuny.edu>
In article <3qvpvr$1a37@news.cuny.edu>,
Hong Hsu <a5qqc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu> wrote:
> I run NextStep 3.3 on Pentium machine, and have 1GB hard drive.
>800MB of them are used for NextStep and 200MB for DOS. How can I backup
>all NextStep files? Can I use only tar, the UNIX utility?
Use gnutar or dump. Avoid the original, older tar format as it has
trouble with very long file names.
There is a new wrapper for gnutar just announced in
comp.sys/next.announce (TurboTar) which you might check out.
Though I've never used it, there is also a commercial app (SafetyNet)
which I hear many people are pleased with,
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From: Iarry998@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.headers,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <950605180415_60892551@aol.com>
Control: cancel <950605180415_60892551@aol.com>
Date: 5 Jun 95 23:17:26 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <-950605180415_60892551@aol.com>
Originator: brian@nothing.ucsd.edu
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EPS->Tiff with specified dpi
Date: 6 Jun 1995 17:07:32 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r220k$pag@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <3qu203$p9h@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <3qu203$p9h@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A.
Drosehn) writes:
>dmwood@leo (David M. Wood) writes:
>> Howdy!
>> I've been trying to convert EPS gray-scale files into TIFF
>> files with *specified* resolutions (300dpi, for example), but
>> they invarably end up at a fixed 72 dpi (screen resolution).
>> [I'm trying to synthesize `photographs' to be Fourier transformed,
>> and 72 dpi gives ugly spatial frequency artifacts, throwing the
>> image baby out with the bathwater.]
>
>I tend to use PixelMagician for that, though I'm pretty sure
>TIFFany II is also able to handle resolutions correctly. Both
>are commercial applications. PixelMagician makes more sense for
>the specific thing you're talking about, but TIFFany II is very
>nice image-processing application. It'd be overkill for just
>getting DPI's set right, but it's great if you have more exotic
>things to do.
>
>--
>Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
>ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
>Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
I used to use Appsoft image, but now I use two _free_
command line programs:
eps2tiff [ -s n -d n -z -j n ] inputfile outputfile
and then:
tiffres [-v] [-x[=#.#]] [-y[=#.#]] file.tiff [...]
to set the correct resolution on the TIFF file.
The trick is that eps2tiff scales up the EPS file to get
the required amount of pixels and then rasterizes it at
72 dpi.
tiffres, then, specifies the desired dpi which converts
the image to the correct size and resolution.
When you do this, it is good to have a calculator handy :-)
Please note that this works well for non-raster PS data
that scales up "mathematically". I have not tried it
with a Postscript pixel-map.
You can get eps2tiff by contacting:
Tom Swanner III (bizarre@clients-r-us.tamu.edu)
Geoffrey Rutledge (rutledge@camis.stanford.edu)
Manpage: Rafael Munoz-Carpena (carpena@next1.bae.ncsu.edu)
You can get tiffres by contacting:
Peter Langston (psl@acm.org)
The copyright prohibits me from transfering the
programs, but, if you like, NeXTMail me a sample EPS
file and I will convert it to the desired
dpi and NeXTMail the TIFF image back to you
for evaluation.
--
Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail & MIME friendly
http://libra.arch.umich.edu/Students/Wassim.Jabi/Portfolio/
From: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: "Segmentation fault" in BibTeX, C Version 0.99c (NextStep3.3)
Date: 6 Jun 1995 12:16:16 GMT
Organization: I DID NOT CONFIGURE MY ORGANIZATION IN MY NEWSREADER
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r1gug$5uv@eurybia.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
Keywords: bibtex
Hello
I have got a strange bug in bibtex C Version 0.99c :
With 265 \citation{} in "aux-File" qctotal.aux I get:
> spock> bibtex qctotal
> This is BibTeX, C Version 0.99c
> The top-level auxiliary file: qctotal.aux
> The style file: eplain.bst
> Database file #1: qctotal.bib
> Segmentation fault
But with 264 \citation{} I get no bug message:
> spock> bibtex qctotal
> This is BibTeX, C Version 0.99c
> The top-level auxiliary file: qctotal.aux
> The style file: eplain.bst
> Database file #1: qctotal.bib
> Warning--empty year in wayner
> (There was 1 warning)
BTW: I run NextStep3.3 and I use the tcsh6.03.00 .
(NextStep3.2 gives the same error !)
My eplain.bst is only a slight modification to plain.bst.
I have insert "annote" like:
> FUNCTION {article}
> { output.bibitem
> format.authors "author" output.check
> new.block
> format.title "title" output.check
> new.block
> crossref missing$
> { .....
> }
> { .....
> }
> if$
> new.block
> note output
> new.block %
> annote output % Included on 27.5.95 E.W
> fin.entry
> }
What is the problem? Does anyone knows a workaround. (On a HP bibtex
runs fine with the same file).
Thank you very much.
Erland Wittkoetter
--
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Uni Konstanz, Dept.of Physics, LS Dehnen, PO.Box 5560, 78434 Konstanz
Phone: +(49) 7531-88-3747 FAX. +(49) 7531-88-3888
(priv.) Abendbergweg 7, 78465 Konstanz,Germany, Phone:+(49)7531-43078
E-mail: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de (NeXTMail o.k.)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Subject: Question in IMPROV Presentation Builder
Message-ID: <D9p99q.DEq@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Organization: Home, Sweet Home...
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:27:26 GMT
Suppose to have this very simple data:
Leg Total
Altitude Distance Distance
---------- ---------- ----------
Sun Valley 500
Abbey Road 800 1500 1500
Bernina Pass 2500 3000 4500
Blue Lake 2000 800 5300
Now, I would like to have a graphic having the Total
Distance as x axis and the Altitude as y axis and the
profile of the journey displayed. The only graph I
have obtained is one considering just the altitude.
The representation is wrong, having the same fixed
distance between each point, like:
+
+
+
+
----------------------> Distance
SV AR BP BL
while the right representation is:
+
+
+
+
---------------------------------> Distance
SV AR BP BL
Any help in how to solve this using Improv ???
Thank you!
Stefano
--
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Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe
phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064
NeXTMail: Stefano@Galileo.pr.net.CH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dcdownie@bart.uwaterloo.ca (David Downie)
Subject: KFC Compile--help
Message-ID: <D9r9oG.Bz@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Summary: KFC compile for SPARC
Keywords: KFC, miscKit, SPARC
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:31:27 GMT
I don't have the MiscKit installed so I can't compile KFC.app for
NS/SPARC. If someone has compiled it quad-fat or would compile it for
me, I'd appreciate it very much.
Thanks,
David Downie
From: rjevridg@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Robert Bob J Evridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mac Printing on a NEXT Network
Date: 6 Jun 1995 14:59:33 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Message-ID: <3r1qgl$pj0@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
I have a Mac on a NEXT network. I need to be able to print from the Mac
to the NEXT printer. If you can help, please send email to:
rjevridg@sacam.oren.ortn.edu
--
Thanx,
Bob
******************************************************************************
Bob Evridge User Support Services
Oak Ridge Educational Network Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Oak Ridge, TN 615-241-3257
******************************************************************************
From: besler@nova.mdd.comm.mot.com (Steve Besler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: E-mail Autoresponder for NS?
Date: 06 Jun 1995 17:13:00 GMT
Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Seattle, WA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BESLER.95Jun6101301@nova.mdd.comm.mot.com>
References: <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net> <3qvtsv$moh@news.next.com>
In-reply-to: Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM's message of 5 Jun 1995 21:45:03 GMT
In article <3qvtsv$moh@news.next.com> Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar) writes:
> In article <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net> james@emerald.netrix.net (James R.
> Pooton) writes:
>> Is anyone out there using any e-mail autoresponder software under
>> NeXTstep?
>
>There's a commercial package to do this as well, called MailBack. I have a
>demo I snarfed off the company's server. However, I can't remember the name
>of the company or the server address. :)
>
>Can anyone else help?
Yes. The company's name is Dancing Bear Enterprises. (Pretty easy name to
remember, I'd say! :-) The name of the software is MAiLBACK. I just cut 'n
pasted the following from their web Page:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
How To Contact Dancing Bear Enterprises...
Orders: Order Form E-mail: orders@dancingbear.com
Sales Support: sales@dancingbear.com
General Information (human) info@dancingbear.com
Product & Service Information: DBE's MAiLBACK server provides the most
up-to-date information on DBE's products and services. To use this
service, simply send an email message to mailback@dancingbear.com.
Please specify help on the subject line and you will receive complete
instructions on how to use the MAiLBACK server. A message with a
subject of index will return an overview of available information.
For Product Demos and General Information via FTP:
ftp://ftp.maui.com/pub/dancingbear/
World Wide Web (WWW) Home Page
http://www.dancingbear.com/
Street Address
Dancing Bear Enterprises, Inc.
Maui Research and Technology Center
590 Lipoa Parkway
Kihei, Hawaii 96753
USA
808 875-2456 (voice)
808 874-3650 (fax)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Have fun!
Steven Besler
--
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Motorola Wireless Data Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer
References: <3qnt0n$6qt@dns.ogitel.net> <3qsfct$94@rainix.jena.thur.de> <3qv674$6s0@papoose.quick.com>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:04:33 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jun6.070433.25885@proximus.north.de>
In article <3qv674$6s0@papoose.quick.com>,
James E. Quick <jq@phcs.phcs.com> wrote:
[...]
>I used to use tin as well. About a year ago, though, I switched to
>strn.
[...]
I use strn for a year now, but it seems to me that development has stopped.
(I use version 0.92) Is that true or is there a later version than 0.92?
Gerhard.
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X Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-507856 X
T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail & MIME T
NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP for SGI
Date: 6 Jun 1995 17:22:30 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <3r2gum$9b5@papoose.quick.com>
References: <m0sINBu-000btOC@a-gain>
In article <m0sINBu-000btOC@a-gain>,
Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> wrote:
>Some freak told me during the GUUG-Meeting 93 in Wiesbaden,
>Germany, that a friend of his saw NEXTSTEP running on a Silicon
>Graphics-machine in a lab.
>
>So much for the rumor of the day :-) !
Doubtful. What he may have seen is the preliminary work that has been
done on the GNUSTEP project. A public domain OpenStep port. You will
not see either a Native NS port or an SGI sponsored port of OpenStep
in the near future.
>Who is out there, to *really* want
>
>o NEXTSTEP for PowerPC Option #1
Nearest time frame is probably Openstep hosted by either NT or Solaris
on the PPC.
>o NEXTSTEP for SGI Option #2
GnuStep looks to be the only port on the horizon.
>o NEXTSTEP for multiprocessor-machines Option #3
> (NEXTSTEP for Mach)
Not soon. And NeXT will have to wait for the SMP standards on the
PC front to stabilize.
>o NEXTSTEP for DEC Alpha Option #4
An OpenStep port on top of OSF1 is already underway and (rumor has it)
be out substantially sooner than the Solaris port.
--
___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com
/ / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K.
\_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343
) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: a5qqc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (Hong Hsu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help on backup
Date: 7 Jun 1995 00:10:41 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center
Message-ID: <3r2qq1$16rj@news.cuny.edu>
How can I use tar and dump commands, the UNIX utility, to backup
NextStep system files before I do repartition? Any one has had
experience on that?
vhong@lion.cs.qc.edu
From: klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (James P Klett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CASE Tools for NeXT??
Date: 6 Jun 1995 21:15:55 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota
Message-ID: <3r2gib$jv2@epx.cis.umn.edu>
Are there any CASE tools for Object Oriented programming on NeXT??
Thanks,
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
James P. Klett klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to set up a Web Home Page using HTTPD?
Date: 7 Jun 1995 22:17:16 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r550s$64@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <3r1tvl$aa3@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
Donald J Baird (djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk) wrote:
: I have just set up my NeXT Colour slab as a Web Server - does anyone know how I
: can set up a home page to be accessed by default - that is, by the address
: http://mynext.stir.ac.uk/ without having to include the file name (ie
: http://mynext.stir.ac.uk/myfile.html/) ?
: I'm sure there must be a simple way of doing this (eg using the right
: filename)...
: I am using NCSA HTTPD 1.3 (downloaded from orst)
: As usual all (vaguely) sensible offers of help will be welcomed (if not always
: acknowledged...)
There is, of course, a way to do this. To verify this, simply try
http://www.con.de ;->> With me, it is in /usr/local/etc/httpd/conf/srm.conf
the entry DirectoryIndex welcome.html or whatever file you will offer
instead of welcome.html.
Hope that helps,
Rainer
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac Printing on a NEXT Network
Date: 8 Jun 1995 00:31:13 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r5gch$1ln@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <3r4mg3$eg3@natasha.rmii.com>
In article <3r4mg3$eg3@natasha.rmii.com> dan@opensource.com (Daniel J.
Gamble) writes:
[re: printing from a Mac to a NeXT printer...]
>
> Partner with the UPrint option from ARDI should do the trick. Let me know
> if you'd like more information.
This would seem to be overkill, although I admit it works. A solution which
is basically Mac based is InterPrint from Intercon. Inexpensive and easy to
install. It also provides a print server to any NeXT on the network for
Laswriters attached to Mac's ( as well as providing a client chooser based
method of seeing the NeXT printer). It's really very nice and simple. If one
wants to mount a NeXT volume they also sell NFS-Share which is equally good.
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: peer@gaia.hanse.de (Peer Sandtner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: RightBrain? Rulers fat? Glen?
Date: 5 Jun 1995 16:56:10 GMT
Organization: private SiTE
Message-ID: <3qvcva$4ar@gaia.hanse.de>
References: <3qnei2$2458@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
In article <3qnei2$2458@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) writes:
> anybody know if RightBrain is still around? Was Rulers
> ever made fat? Glen, are you out there?
>
> we have a registered copy who's user just moved to an hp...
I don't have seen the original Rulers.app from RightBrain, but there is an
application called
Rulers_by_SW.1.1.NIH.b.tar.gz
which is free...
Peer
---
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Jahnstrasse 18 | MIME, NeXTmail | -- PasteUp T-shirt
21465 Reinbek | v: +49 40 722 64 91 | (... have a place in my dock)
Germany | f: +49 40 722 67 49 | How long with three dots?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Engage! Desktop Users
Message-ID: <D9tJ2p.4F3@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:49:36 GMT
I'm evaluating this application, and am interested in your feedback.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yzhao@netcom.com (Yi Zhao)
Subject: Postscript Version under NS 3.3
Message-ID: <yzhaoD9trBA.6q1@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:47:34 GMT
Sender: yzhao@netcom11.netcom.com
I down loaded some Java documentation from SUN's ftp server. The documents
are in PS format generated from FrameMaker. When I previewed any of these
documents, it is garbled, some texts are overlapping. One thing I noticed
that in the document, the header says "%!PS-Adobe-3.0", while NEXT
generated PS file all have "%!PS-Adobe-2.0". Is this an incompatibilty, or
a problem with FrameMaker's PS driver?
Thanks.
From: clloyd@sierra.net (Charles C. Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CASE Tools for NeXT??
Date: 7 Jun 1995 22:46:28 GMT
Organization: Sierra-Net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r5a84$ous@jobes.sierra.net>
References: <3r2gib$jv2@epx.cis.umn.edu>
James P Klett writes
>Are there any CASE tools for Object Oriented programming on NeXT??
My CASE Tool of choice is Objective-C. :-)
Charles.
---
Charles Lloyd clloyd@sierra.net
GiantLeap Software PO BOX 8734
(702) 831-4630 Incline Village, NV 89452
From: mneher@homer1.ive.mrg.uswest.com (Mark_Tyler_Neher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to set up a Web Home Page using HTTPD?
Date: 6 Jun 1995 16:44:56 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Marketing Resources
Message-ID: <3r20m8$4cg@engineer.mrg.uswest.com>
References: <3r1tvl$aa3@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
Donald J Baird writes
> I have just set up my NeXT Colour slab as a Web Server - does anyone
know how I
> can set up a home page to be accessed by default - that is, by the
address
> http://mynext.stir.ac.uk/ without having to include the file name (ie
> http://mynext.stir.ac.uk/myfile.html/) ?
> I'm sure there must be a simple way of doing this (eg using the right
> filename)...
The CERN server looks as a default for files called Welcome.html,
welcome.html, and index.html in that order. My documentation says that
index.html is supplied only for compatibility with the NCSA server, so you
might want to try it -- I know Welcome.html does not work with NCSA.
MTN
From: reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Librarian NS 3.3 chokes!
Date: 7 Jun 1995 19:46:50 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@phakt.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3r5oaq$cjv@phakt.usc.edu>
Summary: When I do searches Librarian chokes
Keywords: Librarian stalls
When I run a search, say through the unix and man pages, Librarian chokes after it coughs up a list of pages, but still races through more files.
Console says:
Jun 7 19:45:33 scf Librarian[1692]: filter dispatch: message receive error (-203)
(repeatedly)
Does anyone have idea as to problem?
Matthew
--
"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WTP Comms Software "Connect It"
Date: 7 Jun 1995 17:10:26 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3r4mi2$eg8@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <D9orJq.H0r@softpac.com.au>
In article <D9orJq.H0r@softpac.com.au> Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
writes:
> Anyone know where I can buy this??
>
> Rgds dave t
> DownUnder
We've got it.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: SoftPC
Message-ID: <D9t8DB.4o5@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <3qllii$ge1@news.cais.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 15:58:23 GMT
In article <3qllii$ge1@news.cais.com> eruck@ahoynet.com () writes:
> Is there anyone out there running SoftPC under NeXT 3.3 on an intel
> platform that might give me some help??
>
> THANKS..
>
I've been known to run that software from time to time ;-)
Ian
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac Printing on a NEXT Network
Date: 7 Jun 1995 17:09:23 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3r4mg3$eg3@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3r1qgl$pj0@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
In article <3r1qgl$pj0@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> rjevridg@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU
(Robert Bob J Evridge) writes:
> I have a Mac on a NEXT network. I need to be able to print from the Mac
> to the NEXT printer. If you can help, please send email to:
>
> rjevridg@sacam.oren.ortn.edu
> --
> Thanx,
> Bob
>
>
**************************************************************************
****
> Bob Evridge User Support Services
> Oak Ridge Educational Network Oak Ridge National Laboratory
> Oak Ridge, TN 615-241-3257
>
**************************************************************************
****
>
Partner with the UPrint option from ARDI should do the trick. Let me know
if you'd like more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: Jonathan.Rice@tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MouseX Clicking Bug
Date: 8 Jun 1995 09:35:09 GMT
Organization: TCD, Computer Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r6g8d$51o@yaler.cs.tcd.ie>
I've been using MouseX for quite a while on an old Cube running NS 3.0. By
and large, I'm content with it (I mean, hey, it's free!), but I am running
across a bug quite frequently that is really starting to annoy me.
Sometimes when I'm on the X screen and use the Command or Control key
while clicking on the mouse, MouseX seems to get confused and thinks that
the Command/Control key is still held down. The problem can usually be
rectified by repeating the same kind of combined click a few times, so I
wouldn't call the problem serious. But I would like to get rid of it. Is
it likely to disappear when I upgrade to NS 3.3 (which I hope to do soon)?
-- Jonathan Rice
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.
From: kyee@tiberius.mit.edu (Ken Yee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Searching for source code...
Date: 7 Jun 1995 17:18:58 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r4n22$4ep@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: surf, white noise
.. in all the wrong places.
I recently downloaded a program from ftp.cs.orst.edu called Surf. Surf is
a program that uses the DSP chip on Black machines to simulate surf-side
noises. So far that I can tell, the code for this sucker is not to be
found at the orst site. I was wondering if maybe, just maybe, someone had
the code to this handy? The guy who wrote the program in '93 has since
sold his cube, so he doesn't have the code anymore :(
Thanks,
Ken
(README file to follow)
----SURFo SEAS (Surf-nought seas, or Surf Nazis)----
a DSP ocean surf simulator by -phillip bruce-
Just in the nick-o-time to combat the mission critical induced
hypertension
of the wiley NextStep programmer, my semi-gifted elves have brought a new
creation into the world of public domain that roughly simulates the sound
of the briny depths of Galilee 'round midnight (or at least an expanse of
FM
static on a receiver with betwiddled volume knobs). You can pass an
argument
of 0-9 to change the rate of the waves (0 being mild gale, 9 being Neptune
on Thorazine). It defaults to 4.
The integral bit of this program runs on the DSP so NS/Intel
users will have to order one of these things from DAK or Sharper Image.
NeXT hardware owners will be happy about this because it ties up almost
*NO*
processor time (unless you were planning on using the DSP!) and hence,
runs
quite nicely in the background. I encourage everyone to report bugs as I
have done little in the way of testing it, and am well aware of more than
one case of voodoo programming within the code (which, by the way, is
available upon request). Enjoy the white noise.
-d!ll!yd
Oh yeah, if for any reason you need to communicate with me, try one of
these
two email addresses:
asc1002@pirates.armstrong.edu
gt1515a@prism.gatech.edu
OR, gimme a call at (912)897-4316.
From: ccwf@locke.klab.caltech.edu (Charles Fu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: named pipe
Date: 8 Jun 1995 07:27:57 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3r68pt$qp1@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <D8ED2r.5Dt@postman.riken.go.jp> <D8F6pB.226@prosoft.com>
In article <D8F6pB.226@prosoft.com>, Glen Biagioni <glen@prosoft.com> wrote:
>I went for many years without realizing named pipes were supported.
Probably because it hasn't been supported for many years. The named pipe
support was actually put in fairly recently in order to make NEXTSTEP more
POSIX compliant. (Of course, some fairly fundamental stuff like listing
directories and seeking still doesn't always work with -posix.)
As I recall (my chronology may be off), 1.x systems let you created named pipes
with mkfifo, but would do nasty things if you actually tried to use them. 2.x
"fixed" this by not letting you use mkfifo to make named pipes and removing the
appropriate definitions form the header files. 3.x (or maybe 3.1) put the
named pipe information back in the header files.
-ccwf
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Addresses in Mail.app
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 08 Jun 1995 00:47:25 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <NIELSEN.95Jun7174725@bears.Stanford.EDU>
Hi all,
I have a quick question: is there any way to access the addresses kept
in Mail.app (Private users) from the command line? I keep all my
email addresses in Mail.app, but I often mail from the command line,
so it would be nice to at least be able to generate a list of all
stored addresses. I couldn't find this in any FAQ's, and the man
pages weren't helpful (is this a netinfo thing? where are those
addresses stored??)
Thanks for any help.
-jamey.
ps. I know that Mynah.app can access .address files, which would
solve my problem since those files can be read from the command line.
But I prefer Mail.app to Mynah.app for a variety of reasons. Also,
I'm using NS3.2.
--
__
James Nielsen /\_\ Phone: 415-497-9668, wk 415-725-1597
nielsen@leland.stanford.edu \/_/ NeXTmail welcome
--
__
James Nielsen /\_\ Phone: 415-497-9668, wk 415-725-1597
nielsen@leland.stanford.edu \/_/ NeXTmail welcome
Date: 7 Jun 1995 20:47:50 GMT
From: ts4@iis.joanneum.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <cancel.ts4_469@piis10.joanneum.ac.at>
Control: cancel <ts4_469@piis10.joanneum.ac.at>
Subject: cmsg cancel <ts4_469@piis10.joanneum.ac.at>
Excessive multi-posting (aka spam) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Postscript Version under NS 3.3
Date: 8 Jun 1995 17:19:22 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r7beq$24r@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
References: <yzhaoD9trBA.6q1@netcom.com>
In article <yzhaoD9trBA.6q1@netcom.com> yzhao@netcom.com (Yi Zhao) writes:
> I down loaded some Java documentation from SUN's ftp server. The documents
> are in PS format generated from FrameMaker. When I previewed any of these
> documents, it is garbled, some texts are overlapping. One thing I noticed
> that in the document, the header says "%!PS-Adobe-3.0", while NEXT
> generated PS file all have "%!PS-Adobe-2.0". Is this an incompatibilty, or
> a problem with FrameMaker's PS driver?
The numbers you see in the header refer to the version of the
so called "Document Structuring Conventions" and don't affect
the ability to render a PS file.
Your problem however ist most probably that the Java documents
use PostScript fonts that aren't present on your system. I found
fonts like Palatino and AvantGarde to be used there which are not
delivered with NEXTSTEP.
Non present fonts are rendered as Courier by default and thus
mess up all spacing in the document, cause overlapping words
and look very ugly.
If you have a printer with "true" PostScript around you should
however be able to print the files, as PS printers usually have
35 fonts in their ROM, including Palatino and AvantGarde.
Detlev
--
Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany
Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: David Peter
Subject: Newbie questions
Message-ID: <D9uJ25.457@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 08:46:53 GMT
Hello. I'm new to this group and have a couple of questions. Firstly is there a
FAQ? Secondly is there an archive of NeXT apps? (I have a NeXT 68k box on my
desk and would like Netscape for example).
Thanks in advance
--
_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ David P Peter
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Insignia Solutions Inc.
_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ davep@isltd.insignia.com
_/ _/ _/ _/ +44 1494 453431
_/_/_/ _/ _/ In God We Trust (In Cars We Rust)
From: ogeisser@apollo.uni-paderborn.de (Oliver Geisser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quantrix bug ?
Date: 8 Jun 1995 19:22:55 +0200
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
Message-ID: <3r7blf$6hq@apollo.uni-paderborn.de>
Hi
I have some problems with Quantrix. Because I use an
educational version I do not get direct support.
Maybe someone can help me.
In Quantrix you can use "Hide item" to hide a row or
column. You will see nothing or a marker for the
hidden item. This depends on the settings in the
page layout panel.
O.K., everything is allrigth until I want to print.
If I print (more precisely: I just tested the preview)
the markers are allways there regardless of the settings
in the page layout panel and what is displayed on the
screen.
BTW From time to time I also get some redraw problem
but this is a minor one.
I use Quantrix 1.2 (the one from the last edu CD).
Thank you.
--
Ciao, Olli
| Oliver Geisser * Steindruefft 11 * 33184 Altenbeken * Germany |
| e-mail: ogeisser@uni-paderborn.de * Phone: 05255/7966 |
| I prefer ASCII-Mail, but you can also send me NeXT-Mail |
From: ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys (Stefan Ried)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Build satan
Date: 7 Jun 1995 07:47:12 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany
Message-ID: <3r3li0$pve@sun1.uni-essen.de>
References: <3r1gur$1fk@aladdin.iii.org.tw>
idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw wrote:
>Dear Readers,
>I have installed the latest perl5 bin for intel and m68k successfully
on
>my intel-based PC. While trying to build satan 1.0 as NeXTanswer
receipe
>stated, I failed . I always get the following message while running
>reconfig:
>jesse:21# reconfig*
>/usr/local/bin/perl: Command not found.
your perl might be /usr/bin/perl5
just
cd /usr/bin
ln -s perl5 perl
From: csp@colada.ohm.york.ac.uk (Colin Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: tin-1.3 compiles with gcc-2.5.8 only
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Date: 8 Jun 1995 09:26:16 GMT
Organization: CSEG, University of York, UK.
Message-ID: <3r6fno$hlh@mailer.york.ac.uk>
References: <3qkfgt$pmo@neptune.ethz.ch>
In article <3qkfgt$pmo@neptune.ethz.ch> Daniel Gerald Kluge (daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch) wrote:
>I just came across the latest version of tin, my favorite Newsreader
>but when compiling I always got an error:
>/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys/param.h:39: warning: redefinition of macro BSD
>signal.c:59: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `)'
>signal.c:62: illegal external declaration, found `{'
>*** Exit 1
Have you tried compiling with a -traditional-cpp option? I've had
similar problems in the past caused by bugs in NeXT's cpp-precomp.
--
Colin Perkins
Computer Systems Engineering Group, Email: csp@ohm.york.ac.uk
Department of Electronics, Phone: (+44) 1904 432379
University of York, York, UK. WWW: http://asegweb.ohm.york.ac.uk/csp/
From: bjohnson@euclid (Brett M. Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Opener 3.3 crashes under NS 3.3
Date: 7 Jun 1995 03:31:04 GMT
Organization: Verity Inc.
Message-ID: <3r36ho$4ma@toucan.verity.com>
I finally converted to NEXTSTEP 3.3 and Opener 3.3 stopped working.
I downloaded the newest version from cs.orst.edu and reinstalled it,
but it still fails to launch. If I debug Opener, gdb says the program
exited normally immediately after running it.
Interestingly, Opener will launch if I am root, but not if I am myself.
I installed Opener.app in the /LocalApps directory as root and all of
the files in Opener.app are owned by root. This may or may not have any
bearing on the situation. If you can be of assistance, please send mail.
Thank you in advance.
--
Brett M. Johnson
bjohnson@verity.com
Verity Inc.
1550 Plymouth Street
Mountain View, CA 94043
From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: cvs 1.4a2 enters infinite loops -> 4 chars lost?
Date: 7 Jun 1995 16:48:50 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <3r53bi$11h@papoose.phcs.com>
References: <1995Jun5.152052.23237@proximus.north.de>
Keywords: cvs
In article <1995Jun5.152052.23237@proximus.north.de>,
Gerhard Moeller <gemoe@proximus.north.de> wrote:
>
>I just compiled and tested cvs 1.4a2 (including the loginfo patch and
>the wrappers patch), but had some problems. I made a new test-repository
(munch)
>Hm. Looking at the names "info", "les", "nfo" and "itinfo", it appears
>to me as if cvs swallows the first four chars of the files! Another
>check with a new source might show the problem:
Your configuration information is incorrect. The readdir opendir
structures are not be interpreted correctly.
The most likely problems are:
1. Make sure that gid_t is typedefed to short not int.
2. Make sure the code includes <sys/dir.h> rather than dirent.h
You may have more problems but nothing obvious comes to mind
(and I don't use CVS so don't have the source to look at).
Make these changes to the Makefile, config.h (or equivalent),
and recompile.
--
___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@phcs.com
/ / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K.
\_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343
) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: Dayne Miller <dayne@spry.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS http servers
Date: 8 Jun 1995 21:51:38 GMT
Organization: InterServ News Service
Message-ID: <3r7rda$lfb@data.interserv.net>
Is there a pre-compiled http server package (freeware/shareware) suitable for NS 3.3 anywhere? I
don't care to take out a loan for Developer just now...
If anyone knows of a URL (I checked out W3, CERN and NCSA, but maybe I just missed
something?!?) or would care to mail me the compiled version (hopefully as a .pkg), I'd appreciate it.
Thanks in advance-
-Dayne Miller
dayne@spry.com
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. -- unknown
From: jmartin@mccaw.com (Jeff Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Addresses in Mail.app
Date: 8 Jun 1995 20:06:18 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r7l7q$q96@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com>
References: <NIELSEN.95Jun7174725@bears.Stanford.EDU>
Your private addresses are in .NeXT/.mailalias
-Jeff
> I have a quick question: is there any way to access the addresses
> kept in Mail.app (Private users) from the command line? I keep all
From: jmartin@mccaw.com (Jeff Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Addresses in Mail.app
Date: 8 Jun 1995 20:07:17 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r7l9l$qb3@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com>
References: <NIELSEN.95Jun7174725@bears.Stanford.EDU>
Your private addresses are in .NeXT/.mailalias
-Jeff
"When birds burp it must taste like bugs."
-- Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbs"
> I have a quick question: is there any way to access the addresses
> kept in Mail.app (Private users) from the command line? I keep all
From: jmartin@mccaw.com (Jeff Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Addresses in Mail.app
Date: 8 Jun 1995 20:07:23 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3r7l9r$qb4@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com>
References: <NIELSEN.95Jun7174725@bears.Stanford.EDU>
Your private addresses are in .NeXT/.mailalias
-Jeff
"When birds burp it must taste like bugs."
-- Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbs"
> I have a quick question: is there any way to access the addresses
> kept in Mail.app (Private users) from the command line? I keep all
From: Craig Bustrin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PS bug fixed in Frame 3.2?
Date: 7 Jun 1995 18:33:39 GMT
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Message-ID: <3r4re3$cpr@sanews1.morgan.com>
Hi all -
There was a very irritating bug in Frame 3.0.1 where you do a Print > Save
(to ps), and Frame generates a faulty .ps file which displays fine but
completely flummoxes the printer.
Has that been fixed in Frame 3.2?
--
Craig Bustrin+
__________________________________________
bustrin@morgan.com
From: bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu (Blake Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WWW browser info wanted for NS -- OmniWeb?
Date: 7 Jun 1995 19:57:07 GMT
Organization: InfiNet
Message-ID: <3r50aj$jt7@lucy.infi.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
I am considering reinstlaling NeXTSTEP for Intel (3.2) on my
486DX2/66 machine. I am currently using Windows95 Preview. Would I
hit all sorts of compat probs w/ new software requiring 3.3?? Will
3.3 print to non-PS printers?? Oh...back to the topic...
I love Netscape. I understand OmniWeb is not too bad. Could
someone point out its functionality? Will it load text and let you
see it while gfx are loading, like Netscape? Also -- could someone
take a screenshot (any format) of the browser running on NeXTSTEP
and uuencode and email it to me at bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu? That would
be great. This is a big factor in my poss. move back to NS. Thanks
again.
bp
--
+--------------------------------- ---- -- - - - - -
|Blake W. Patterson "I'm not quite clear about what you just spoke-
|bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu Was that a parable, or a very subtle joke?"
|blake@vigsun1.larc.nasa.gov
+--ToriAmos-LoreenaMcKennitt-Enya-DavidWilcox-SarahMcLachlan-ElvisCostello--+
+----DavidBowie-CrashTestDummies-TheyMightBeGiants-RustedRoot-Pixies-XTC----+
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anybody have a patched Edit.app for RBrowser?
Date: 8 Jun 1995 14:13:39 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3r70ij$79t@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
I have a Station running NS 3.3 and would really like
to use RBrowser to edit files on remote systems. I don't
have access to a machine running 3.2, so I can't create
a patched Edit.app for myself.
If anybody has a patched Edit.app that they would be
willing to share I would appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
--
Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/
Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: andylee@netcom.com (Andy A. Lee)
Subject: Make Edit.app Display White-on-Black?
Message-ID: <andylee-0906950011430001@idtech.com>
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: Idealicus Technologies
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 07:11:43 GMT
Hi, all,
How can I change Edit.app's windows to display white text on black
background instead of its default black-on-white? There is no color
option in Edit.app's preference like Terminal.app. I am starting to do a
lot of Objective-C programming and this really bothers my eyes.
I could use emacs in a Terminal window to edit my .m and .h codes, which
can be set to display white text on black background, but then I can't
"click-goto" the compiler errors from the ProjectBuilder's window, and the
gdb from Edit.app.
Andy Lee
andylee@netcom.com
andylee@cs.ucla.edu
From: ksmith@telesource.com(K. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Want to Trade Dataphile for Create
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 07:24:57 GMT
Organization: scruz-net
Message-ID: <950609002457.229AAC7E.kevin@ksmith>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
As one of the early customers of Stone Design, I must say I am quite
disappointed. Having forked out a hefty sum to buy Create and Dataphile, I
soon discovered that I had to upgrade to get the promised bug-free versions.
After purchasing upgrade after upgrade- hoping to finally get a version that
works adequately- I now have a permanent license for Create which has- get
this- expired. Since the latest version is not backward-compatible, Stone
Design says I must, AGAIN, upgrade to another supposedly-fixed release in
order to solve the problem. To boot, they now charge an outrageous fee for
technical support. I have had enough of this nickle and diming and I wish I
had never purchased Create in the first place. If my documents were
transferrable to another app, I would drop Create in a heartbeat. Yet this
is not an option. So, would anyone be interested in trading a fairly decent
copy of Dataphile 2.1 for the latest WORKING copy of Create?
Kevin T. Smith
ksmith@telesource.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Software to play my cd's on cd-rom on cube
In-Reply-To: u603994@csi.uottawa.ca's message of 31 May 1995 17:43:03 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun8211549@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3qi9r7$79i@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 01:15:49 GMT
How about CDPlayer.app in /NextDeveloper/Demos!
Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: David Peter
Subject: Re: Newbie questions
Message-ID: <D9uzJ1.9Hv@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <D9uJ25.457@isltd.insignia.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 14:42:37 GMT
Thanks to all those people whoe replied with details of NeXT archive sites.
--
_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ David P Peter
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Insignia Solutions Inc.
_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ davep@isltd.insignia.com
_/ _/ _/ _/ +44 1494 453431
_/_/_/ _/ _/ In God We Trust (In Cars We Rust)
From: Carolee Rand <rand@sewp.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help PPP2.3 not working
Date: 8 Jun 1995 19:44:22 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Message-ID: <3r7jum$pp7@post.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: rand@sewp.nasa.go
Help needed setting up PPP2.2 and/or PPP2.3 on motorola NextStep Box running
v.3.2.
Each time I try to connect, I get the same error messages. The login and
password exchange works fine, however the server disconnects because it
doesn't see my system as a PPP connection. This is what shows up in the
logs:
---Taken from the PPP log file:
This stuff starts flashing on the screen after the login exchange. I was
connected at 19200.
May 17 22:05:18 chipomat2 pppd[243]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic
0x2cdebc31> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 17 22:05:21 chipomat2 pppd[243]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic
0x2cdebc31> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 17 22:05:24 chipomat2 pppd[243]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic
0x2cdebc31> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 17 22:05:27 chipomat2 pppd[243]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic
0x2cdebc31> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 17 22:05:31 chipomat2 pppd[243]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic
0x2cdebc31> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 17 22:05:31 chipomat2 pppd[243]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic
0x2cdebc31> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 17 22:05:34 chipomat2 pppd[243]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
May 17 22:05:34 chipomat2 pppd[243]: Connection terminated.
May 17 22:05:34 chipomat2 pppd[243]: Serial link is not 8-bit clean:
May 17 22:05:34 chipomat2 pppd[243]: All received characters had bit 7 set to 0
------------This appeared on the console log:
disabling Flush... continuing...
ppp0: garbage received: 0x8 (need PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
FLUSHING....
ppp0 input: 31 7d 27 7d 22 7d 00 7d 22 60 24 7e 08 08 7d 23
ppp0 input: 40 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20
ppp0 input: 32 7d 21
ppp0 input: 24 7d 25 5c 7d 25 7d 26 2c 5e 3c 31 7d 27 7d 22
Disabling Flush... continuing...
==============================================
Can anybody tell me what these error messages mean or offer any configuration
assistance?
Thanks in advance
--Carolee Rand SEWP BOWL rand@sewp.nasa.gov |
Code 251.9, NASA-GSFC, Voice:301.286.0782 |"With toast,
Greenbelt, MD 20771 Fax: 301.286.1619 | you never know..."
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: REPOST!! downloading Mac files from the net
Date: 8 Jun 1995 15:59:18 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <3r76om$dk5@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
Dear NeXTers
A simple problem - how can I download mac files from the net on to my NeXT slab
without corrupting them (ie will macbinary files always get trashed, or is
there a utility or a technique for doing this??). Currently I am using YFtp to
do this, but with little success (downloaded files are un-unstuffable on my
Powerbook!).
As ever, all help is appreciated (if often unacknowledged).
--
Donald Baird Phone: +44 1786 467926
Environment Group Fax : +44 1786 472133
Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
Stirling University W3 : http://www.stirling.ac.uk/
Scotland FK9 4LA
* * * * * * * * * * * * * NeXT / MIME Mail Welcome! * * * * * * * * * *
From: Narayanan Iyer <niyer>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: XVIEW on NEXTSTEP under CubX
Date: 8 Jun 1995 16:53:20 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Message-ID: <3r79u0$r55@ornews.intel.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello:
Has anyone successfully ported the XView Toolkit for X11R5 to
NEXTSTEP using either CubX or any other X port?
Thanks
Narayanan
niyer@mipos2.intel.com
From: mail05136@pop.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP and default routes
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 95 02:37:28 PDT
Message-ID: <3r8cfl$t96@alterdial.UU.NET>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I'm currently running PPP 2.2 without difficulty save one 'problem.' Since my
PPP dialup gives a dynamic IP address, I don't know what to specify as the
defaultroute in /etc/ppp/options. So I've left that parameter out.
The only avenue remaining is to manually add an entry to the routing table via
'route -n add default' after I've connected and know what the IP address of
ppp0 is. However, I can only modify the routing table as root.
Do I have alternatives so I can dial up as a standard user and still be able to
route packets? Any help is appreciated.
Scott Davenport
mail05136@pop.net
From: Jesus M. Izquierdo <72332.3705@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXT PEOPLE NEEDED IN MADRID
Date: 5 Jun 1995 09:10:09 GMT
Organization: KROP AUDIOVISUAL SYSTEMS
Message-ID: <3quhlh$g8c$2@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
Need people with experience in NextStep for Intel in Madrid for
occassional projects. English/Spanish languages.
Please answer with personal E-mail to:
72332.3705@compuserve.com
Or Tel: 34 1 6779774
Fax: 34 1 6772649
Jesus Izquierdo
From: viggo@diku.dk (Allan Kim Schougaard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Free wordprocessor ?
Date: 9 Jun 1995 10:04:40 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen
Sender: viggo@njord.diku.dk
Message-ID: <3r96bo$25h@odin.diku.dk>
Hey guys (and woman).
Does anyone know about any free (or almost free) wordprocessors for NS ?
They should at least be able to number sections and have some kind of notion of
stylesheets.
Please email, if enough interest I'll sum up over the net.
--Allan
--viggo@diku.dk
From: kalyan <102130.2314@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Fonts for world language scripts
Date: 4 Jun 1995 16:14:35 GMT
Organization: indologist
Message-ID: <3qsm5b$6fb$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
kalyans@aol.com
Fonts in truetype and postscipt ANSI formats which can be used in
ANY APPLICATION on ANY PLATFORM (Windows, Mac, Unix) will help
promote the use of computing in the world languages which use
scripts other than ANSI English alphabet.
Such a product available on a CD-ROM with 1500+ fonts for the
following 14 TYPES (on Windows) is a good start for application
developers (WP, Spreadsheet, Dbase, Graphics) to incorporate in
their products as a value added for 2 billion new computerusers!:
Bengali, Cyrillic, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada, Malayalam, Oriya,
Punjabi, Sinhalese, Tamil, Telugu, Thai, Urdu, Vietnamese.
The fonts do not need any special script manager software or
hardware attachments (which is the key to their portability
across ALL COMPUTING PLATFORMS); they are fully scalable and come
in a variety of typestyles. The fonts provide the capability to
display and print the calligraphy of compounded glyphs and are
portable across ALL APPLICATIONS and compatible with evolving
standards of Unicode.The fonts are also available for Unix and
Mac.
Forthcoming additional computing tool is a dictionary on CD for
25+ south asian languages.
Scanrom Publications, Inc. 516-295-2237; Compuserve 73760,1005
--
kalyans@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Engage! Desktop Users
Message-ID: <1995Jun9.163804.1264@ittpub>
From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis)
Date: 9 Jun 95 16:38:03 WET
References: <D9tJ2p.4F3@eskimo.com>
salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) wrote:
>I'm evaluating this application, and am interested in your feedback.
>--
>>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there!
><
>>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images
><
A collegue of mine uses it and thinks it's great.
I use MonsterShelf, which is a similar thing which makes NeXT more like
a Macintosh...
From: "James R. Pooton" <james@netrix.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CERN vs. NCSA ?
Date: 10 Jun 1995 18:28:45 GMT
Organization: Netrix Internet System Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rco8t$1qb@ruby.netrix.net>
I am just curious, which web server people prefer to run under
NeXTStep. We are using CERN 3.0 here and have been very
happy with its easy configuration (for clickable images, scripts, and
security), and the fact that we have had it up for over
two month straight with no crashing :-)
But I was just curious, does the NCSA web server offer anything
additional that we are missing out on?
Also, we are using getstats to create statistics pages in html.
Is their anything else people like to use?
Thanks,
James Pooton
james@netrix.net
From: Peter Schoen <100103.133@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TranSys Slip & NeXTstep 3.3 (Intel)
Date: 5 Jun 1995 14:09:33 GMT
Organization: via CompuServe Information Service
Message-ID: <3qv36t$j8o$2@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
Hi !
Can somebody tell me how I can get the TransSys SLIP driver to
work with NeXTstep 3.3 (Intel) ?
All the best
Peter Schoen
From: jksmyth@eos.ncsu.edu (James Kidd Smyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sites for GNU Smalltalk?
Date: 7 Jun 1995 20:29:33 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3r527d$ib8@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Originator: jksmyth@c00804-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Does anyone know where I can get a recent version of GNU Smalltalk?
I have 1.1.1, which I must have gotten about four years ago.
thanks jksmyth@eos.ncsu.edu
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs for NS 4.1 doesn't handle the backspace key?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 11 Jun 1995 00:18:51 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <3rd5ob$c0m@gymir.ifi.uio.no>
I have just installed Emacs for NS 4.1 and discovered that it seems
like Emacs now no longer differentiate between the backspace key and
the delete key, they both delete backwords. Emacs 4.0 worked fine (I
have defined the backspace key to delete backwords and the delete key
to delete forwards).
How do I fix this?
A few other small problems:
In Emacs for X exiting Emacs with Ctrl-x-c will ask if you want to
save unsaved files, in Emacs for NS it doesn't.
Would this be possible in the NS-version?
In Emacs for X you can use the right mouse button to chose items in
info-mode. Would it be possible to have this work in NS too?
Arne
--
Arne Hĺrseth (7-bit coded: Arne Haarseth)
Ma.S student at the University of Oslo, Norway
Email: arneha@ifi.uio.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: FreeCell.App
Message-ID: <D9zCxK.3wG@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 23:22:32 GMT
You may now dump all your NT machines. Forget Windows '95. We all know
they're only good for one thing, and that thing is now available on
NeXT.
FreeCell.App
After much bragging about how I was going to have to write a version of
FreeCell (that most adictive patience game!) for NeXT I finally sat down
and did it. The results have just been uploaded to orst (in
next/submissions).
The real credit should go to Blake Stone's card set. Objects Work! I
know that, but in case you're not conviced, I was able to put the whole
thing together in about THREE HOURS!
Now all we need is NeXTStep on alpha, no that all the DEC machines round
here are redundant.
Enjoy...
Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: FreeCell.App
Message-ID: <D9zD84.3yq@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <D9zCxK.3wG@isltd.insignia.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 23:28:52 GMT
Oops forgot to mention - its only compiled for Intel, as thats the only
compiler I've got on this machine.
I'll try and get a FAT version out asap...
Sorry...
Ian
From: ecwong@ucsd.edu (Eric C. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Which X is best???
Date: 8 Jun 1995 01:02:51 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <3r5i7r$1qm@network.ucsd.edu>
Which X windows for NEXTSTEP is best in terms of:
speed?
portability?
features?
Is there anything besides cubx and coxist?
BTW - I will be running this on NS Intel
Thanks, Eric
From: tmeyer@mcs.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: freeware Fax software ?
Date: 11 Jun 1995 03:32:31 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <3rdo4f$me7@News1.mcs.com>
I plan on buying a USRobotics v.34 28.8 modem very soon. Although I've
been told that NXFax isn't compatible with these modems, I still plan on
buying one since I don't fax very often, but I still have some questions:
1) Is anyone using NXFax w/ a Courier modem even though B&W says it isn't
compatible ?
2) Is there any other fax software available on the net ?
any info appreciated.
thanks.
-tom
From: Bob Thurman <rthurman@umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: C-compiler -- Help!
Date: 9 Jun 1995 18:55:52 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ra5fo$k1u@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Somewhere down the road of upgrading to NS 3.2 our C-compiler
got trashed -- all sorts of "files not found" when we try to execute
cc. Same message when we try to compress our cc.pkg.
We'd like to install a new compiler, but we haven't been able to locate
a "package" version on any of the ftp sites. We've found gnu versions
that
require running some sort of make, but we're scared and ignorant of
makefiles, and the documentation is sketchy and confusing. Any
suggestions?
Are there .pkg versions available somewhere?
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gottesma@netcom.com (marek gottesman)
Subject: test
Message-ID: <gottesmaD9zr1n.1MM@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 04:27:23 GMT
Sender: gottesma@netcom11.netcom.com
this is a test
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Database servers under NeXTSTEP?
Date: 9 Jun 1995 22:16:52 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rah8k$88d@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <9506021705.AA02569@hukatronic.cz>
tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) writes:
> Hi All,
>
> I am looking for the most complete list of the database servers
> running under NeXTSTEP.
If you have the ability to view WWW information (using OmniWeb,
Netsurfer, or SpiderWoman), then check out the URL:
http://www.stepwise.com/Products/index.html
One of the links from there gives a list of database products.
The one I've used at times is QuickBase. I also have DataPhile,
but I use that as a database program (for me, personally, as
opposed to a "database server").
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: a5qqc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (Hong Hsu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help on choice of partition among DOS, Solaris and NextStep
Date: 11 Jun 1995 05:45:23 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center
Message-ID: <3rdvtj$8ot@news.cuny.edu>
Here is a question on how to partition two hard drives among NextStep,
DOS and Solaris.
I run DOS and NextStep on a 1GB hard drive with Pentium machine,
and plan to add another Quantum's 730MB SCSI hard drive for installing and
running Solaris. In order to partition hard drive, I will backup all DOS
and NextStep systems' files and user's data files by using gnutar and dump
UNIX commands. Is that correct? Then partition the hard drive by using
fdisk, and then install the Solaris on second hard drive. Now question is
that after installing the Solaris, should I reinstall NextStep onto the
first hard disk or restore the NextStep back to the first hard disk? I
believe installing Solaris on the second hard drive will occupy certain
space on the first hard drive, two approaches have different effect. Which
one is correct approach? The bottom line is I can't lost the files.
Any suggestion will be appreciated.
Sincerely,
Hong Hsu
email : vhong@puma.cs.qc.edu tel: (718)271-2049
From: rhess@taligent.COM (Richard L. Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Engage! Desktop Users
Date: 9 Jun 95 15:23:11
Organization: Taligent Inc, Cupertino, California.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RHESS.95Jun9152311@taligent.COM>
References: <D9tJ2p.4F3@eskimo.com>
In-reply-to: salvo@eskimo.com's message of Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:49:36 GMT
It's my favorite desktop application!!! I've got about 10 levels defined
and use it almost exclusively to launch applications. My dock only has 6
items in it (including Engage! Desktop). I also use it's Screen Saver option
(Security Mode enabled) with two of the coolest backspace modules ever
written; Life2 and Maze (both written by Dave Bau). It's a great app.
Dick...
+-------------------------------------------------------------[ Richard Hess ]
phone: 408.777.5612
email: rhess@taligent.com
From: Wil Gayle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Network Management Tools
Date: 9 Jun 1995 21:03:19 GMT
Organization: US West !nterprise Networking Systems
Message-ID: <3racun$t4m@acsnews.uswc.uswest.com>
Is there any network monitoring software which runs natively on NS? I
seem to remember a company which had monitoring software compatible with
snmp about 1 year ago.
--
Regards,
Wil Gayle
Manager - Systems Development & Support
!nterprise Networking Services
U S West Communications
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Engage! Desktop Users
Date: 10 Jun 1995 02:44:46 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3rb0uu$54g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <D9tJ2p.4F3@eskimo.com> <1995Jun9.163804.1264@ittpub>
Miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis) wrote...
>salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) wrote:
>>I'm evaluating this application, and am interested in your feedback.
>
>A collegue of mine uses it and thinks it's great.
>
>I use MonsterShelf, which is a similar thing which makes NeXT more like
>a Macintosh...
I use Fiend, which is a MUCH enhanced version of MonsterShelf (you'd
hardly recognize it), includes Backspace, a background image
facility, dock and desktop shelf extenders... Just about everything
Engage! does, and at a VERY reasonable shareware price. I can't live
without it!
Joe
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: liztaff@cts.com (elizabeth taff)
Subject: SoftPC Window Enlargement?
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 13:41:04 GMT
Message-ID: <liztaff.7.2FDAF26F@cts.com>
Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem)
The Sysop at my daughter's school district has installed SoftPC on the NeXt in
her 5th grade classroom as we wish to run some MSDOS programs on it. The
monitor is a grayscale monitor with excellent resolution, but the window
SoftPC is running in is so small that complicated graphics get lost in it.
Does anyone know of any method to enlarge the window to near full screen?
Thanks for any help you can give!
Elizabeth Taff liztaff@cts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: SoftPC Window Enlargement?
Message-ID: <DA0MJK.n0t@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <liztaff.7.2FDAF26F@cts.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 15:47:44 GMT
In article <liztaff.7.2FDAF26F@cts.com> liztaff@cts.com (elizabeth taff)
writes:
> The Sysop at my daughter's school district has installed SoftPC on the
NeXt in
> her 5th grade classroom as we wish to run some MSDOS programs on it.
The
> monitor is a grayscale monitor with excellent resolution, but the
window
> SoftPC is running in is so small that complicated graphics get lost in
it.
> Does anyone know of any method to enlarge the window to near full
screen?
You don't specify if you're running on Intel or Black...
If you're on black theres an option on the preferences menu to enlarge
the size of the window by 1.5. (and by 2 on some releases)
Unfortuantly this option was disabled from 3.11 Intel onwards. Simply
reenabling the option doesn't help (I tried it!), as the optimisations
added to improve performance, and the structure of the Intel display
means that the old code gets confused, and messes up the screen.
However if you're on Intel you should be able to run in full screen
mode. just type Command-F, and SoftPC should take over the whole screen.
This isn't guarenteed to work for all video cards, but it does pretty
well on most. It also speeds things up slightly.
If you still have problems call tech support in Mountain View (the
number's in the online help).
Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cs911196@ariel.cs.yorku.ca (AIK KHOON EUGENE LEE)
Subject: PC educational software needed
Message-ID: <D9x97I.H67@ariel.cs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@ariel.cs.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 20:06:54 GMT
Hello:
I am currently looking for some educational software for the kids,
teenagers and adults learning centre. I would like to know which
programs are the best to use and where I can download those complete
set of programs. Anyone who has information about this, please help
me out. Thank in advanced.
1.) English courses:
----------------
** Level: from kindergarten to high school
** Dos & windows version
2.) Mathematics courses:
--------------------
** Level: from kindergarten to high school
** Dos & windows version
3.) Computer courses:
-----------------
** Introduction to personal computer.
Basic ideas of how to operate windows and simple DOS
commands.
** If anyone have related programs for sale, please feel free
to contact me. Thank you very much.
Eugene.
e-mail: cs911196@ariel.cs.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: as@asci.fdn.fr (Antoine Schmitt)
Subject: Re: Addresses in Mail.app
Message-ID: <1995Jun8.232720.4818@asci.fdn.fr>
Sender: as@asci.fdn.fr
Organization: Antoine Schmitt - Paris, France.
References: <NIELSEN.95Jun7174725@bears.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:27:20 GMT
In article <NIELSEN.95Jun7174725@bears.Stanford.EDU>
nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) writes:
> I have a quick question: is there any way to access the addresses kept
> in Mail.app (Private users) from the command line?
~/.NeXT/.mailalias contains what you want.
Antoine
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________________________________________________________
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as@asci.fdn.fr - (33 1) 44 62 97 77 - NeXT mail welcome
From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Build satan
Date: 09 Jun 1995 01:57:08 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, Yale University
Message-ID: <ANDERSON.95Jun8215708@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
References: <3r1gur$1fk@aladdin.iii.org.tw> <3r3li0$pve@sun1.uni-essen.de>
In-reply-to: ried@garfield.Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE.theo-phys's message of 7 Jun 1995 07:47:12 GMT
I hate to sound elitist, but satan is an enormously powerful utility.
I'm concerned bit by the prospect of someone's running it who can't
figure out the message that says he ahsn't installed perl in the right
place....
--Steve Anderson
From: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs for NS 4.1 doesn't handle the backspace key?
Date: 11 Jun 1995 17:10:23 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3rf81v$3i@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <3rd5ob$c0m@gymir.ifi.uio.no>
In article <3rd5ob$c0m@gymir.ifi.uio.no>,
> I have just installed Emacs for NS 4.1 and discovered that it seems
> like Emacs now no longer differentiate between the backspace key and
> the delete key, they both delete backwords. Emacs 4.0 worked fine (I
> have defined the backspace key to delete backwords and the delete key
> to delete forwards).
The code sent by the backspace key was changed between 4.0 and 4.1 to
conform with the X version and also to allow C-h to be used to access
the help system.
Here is the entry on this matter from the Tips and Tricks section in
the Emacs for NS info page. This section is new in 4.1 and highly
recommended to all Emacs for NS users.
"Backspace and delete
--------------------
In the computer world there has been no end of confusion about the
meaning of backspace and delete. Here is the convention used by Emacs
for NS. Hitting the oblong key at the upper right hand corner of your
main keypad (usually labeled `<--') will generate a `delete' event.
Hitting this key while holding down a shift key generates a `backspace'
event. Both of these are distinct from hitting C-h (which invokes the
Emacs help system).
By default both `delete' and `backspace' will delete the character
preceding the cursor. To rebind `delete' to delete the character
preceding the cursor and `backspace' to delete the character under the
cursor, do this.
(global-set-key [delete] 'backward-delete-char-untabify)
(global-set-key [backspace] 'delete-char)"
> In Emacs for X exiting Emacs with Ctrl-x-c will ask if you want to
> save unsaved files, in Emacs for NS it doesn't.
> Would this be possible in the NS-version?
It is supposed to and it certainly did when I just tried it here.
> In Emacs for X you can use the right mouse button to chose items in
> info-mode. Would it be possible to have this work in NS too?
Ditto. It seems there are some configuration changes on your machine.
Carl Edman
From: Tomas Hurka <tom@hukatronic.cz>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Database servers under NeXTSTEP?
Date: 11 Jun 1995 22:18:21 +0200
Organization: Hukatronic, Ltd.
Sender: daemon@news.eunet.cz
Message-ID: <3rfj2d$rid@news.eunet.cz>
Hi All,
I would like to thank all of you, who replied to my question.
---
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: a simple database?
In-Reply-To: graham@sparcst1.essex.ac.uk's message of 31 May 1995 09:20:45 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun8211224@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3qhcdd$b8n@seralph9.essex.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 01:12:24 GMT
DataPhile from Stone Design is your best bet.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: sdroll@troi.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Droll Sven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MPEG player
Date: 12 Jun 1995 06:46:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rgnrm$gpl@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3r1akp$2so@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
In article <3r1akp$2so@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> pisati@app.lacd.dsi.unimi.it
(pisati stefano) writes:
> Hi, I've download MPEG Play v 2.6 from the net and I discover that it
> is extremely slow on my cube (040 - 25 Mhz 64 Mb of RAM) and I want to
> know if there is another player that work good with my machine. I'm
> not sure but I think that Play 2.6 don't use DSP... is it true ?
>
> TIA
Movie.app is a little bit faster:
On my NeXTstation (040 - 25MHz, 16MB RAM) it plays a (ca.) 300 frames mpeg
(coverted to 2 Bit) on about 245 frames/second (no joke). Color mpegs
should play at least at 30 frames/second depending on the availible RAM
(I've only tested it on a Colorstation with 32MB and it was something
about 100f/s)
You can find Movie.app on
ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/graphic/programs
wich is not that far from Italy ;-).
Ciao
--
Sven Droll __
______________________________________________________/ / ______ __
sdroll@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/
/_ _/ _/
"...and I see your schwartz =====\_/=======
is as big as mine" (Dark Helmet) LOGOUT FASCISM!
___________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: NS http servers
Message-ID: <D9x25F.Io@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <3r7rda$lfb@data.interserv.net>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 17:34:26 GMT
In article <3r7rda$lfb@data.interserv.net> Dayne Miller
<dayne@spry.com> writes:
> Is there a pre-compiled http server package (freeware/shareware)
> suitable for NS 3.3 anywhere? I don't care to take out a loan for
> Developer just now...
From httpd.1.3.README:
-=-=-
SUBMISSION: NCSA httpd 1.3 server for NEXTSTEP (Moto/Intel) [27oct94]
A compiled and ready-to-go-for-NEXTSTEP version of the NCSA httpd Web
server (version 1.3) has been submitted to
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/submissions,
eventually to be moved to
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/wide-area-info
.
-=-=-
I've got my httpd from the PEANUTS-CD.
Michael
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*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-543915
*** michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
*** Michael_Pieper@AC.maus.de (only < 16kB, please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: [Q] Recommendation for plotting/word processing app?
Message-ID: <D9yHJ9.Er@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management
References: <3qrao9$dbn@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 12:04:20 GMT
In article <3qrao9$dbn@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David
Finton) writes:
> So I'm hoping some of you can give me recommendations for a good w.p.
> app which is compatible with MS Word files and works with good
> spreadsheet and plotting software.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Finton
Hi David,
What don't you try Xanthus' OpenWrite word processor that is compatible
with MS Word 6 for Windows files and many others. It can even save your
files with those formats !
And for spreadsheets, try Xanthus' Questor that is very nice, reads Excel
files.
Hope that helps
---
Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Archer)
Subject: PS printer fonts --> NeXT font panel
Message-ID: <D9wuBy.D5o@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Keywords: PS fonts, font panel, HPLJ4M
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 14:45:33 GMT
I posted this question on comp.sys.next.software and had no (zero) replies, so I'll try here...
Does anyone know of a method of making the PostScript fonts that come with an HP LaserJet 4M available on the NeXT font panel?
It would be nice to make those fonts available to all applications, not just (ugh!) DOS applications such as WordPerfect run through SoftPC...
Thanks in advance,
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher L. Archer Data Processing, University of Waterloo
clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (519) 885-1211 ext. 2292
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Database servers under NeXTSTEP?
Date: 11 Jun 1995 04:17:18 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9506110817.AA00301@hukatronic.cz>
References: <9506030721.AA00625@plsys.com>
Hi All,
I would like to thank all of you, who replied to my question.
---
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: rbz@eversoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: freeware Fax software ?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 03:04:49 GMT
Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc (login info (214/705-2901 - 817/571-0400))
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rgash$1cq@feenix.metronet.com>
References: <3rdo4f$me7@News1.mcs.com>
Summary: USRobotics modem for faxing
Keywords: modem nextstep fax usrobotics
tmeyer@mcs.com wrote:
>I plan on buying a USRobotics v.34 28.8 modem very soon. Although I've
>been told that NXFax isn't compatible with these modems, I still plan on
>buying one since I don't fax very often, but I still have some questions:
>1) Is anyone using NXFax w/ a Courier modem even though B&W says it isn't
>compatible ?
It doesn't work. I know, I tried! USRobotics v.34 28.8 modem is a
Class 1 fax modem. NXFax only supports Class 2 fax modems. I just
replaced my USRobotics 28.8 with a Supra 28.8 faxmodem. It works
perfect with NXFax.
>2) Is there any other fax software available on the net ?
I think there is some software that works with Zyxel modems, but
I don't recall where.
---
Rodger (NeXTMail & MIME Welcome!)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Rodger B. Zeisler Internet rbz@eversoft.com
Everest Software Corporation Work (214) 437-7636
4347 W. Northwest Hwy, #851 Fax (214) 437-7600
Dallas, TX 75220-3864 Home (214) 517-4884
-----------------------------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 12 Jun 1995 04:15:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3rgf0i$m1m@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: SoftPC Window Enlargement?
In-Reply-To: liztaff@cts.com's message of Sun, 11 Jun 1995 13:41:04 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun12013047@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <liztaff.7.2FDAF26F@cts.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 05:30:47 GMT
NEXTSTEP in the 5th grade - imagine that! For those of you who don't
know about the Val Verde Unified School District, they are a very
high tech K-12 which has NeXTs and FDDI. They are the role model for
the rest of nation.
Robert La Ferla
From: rfi@unkerich (Robert Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Frame for Sparc?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 11:04:33 GMT
Organization: GMD-FOKUS
Message-ID: <3rh701$crd@stern.fokus.gmd.de>
Hi,
does anybody knows whether and when Frame 3.x for NS/Sparc will be
compiled? It should be only one more switch!
BTW: I can't stop dreaming of Frame 5.x on NeXTSTEP but ...
Robert.
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From: dino@ex-nihilo (Dino Bagdadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Taylor UUCP frontend
Date: 12 Jun 1995 07:23:58 GMT
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rgq2e$95k@anshar.shadow.net>
Does anyone know of any app similar to UUCon, UUMon or CheckUUCP that
will work with Taylor UUCP?
Thanx.
---
Dino Bagdadi
ex nihilo, inc.
dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
From: dickw@dino.eng.monash.edu.au (Richard West)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: VideoConferencing & RemoteDemos
Date: 12 Jun 1995 09:06:29 GMT
Organization: Monash University
Message-ID: <3rh02l$20q@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>
Summary: What to buy & how to configure it for Video Conferencing & Demonstrations
Keywords: Video Conferencing Demonstrate Screen Capture Networking
I'm talking with someone about being able to do video conferencing and
demonstrations across the InterNet. As far as I can see - there are 2 parts
to this :
1. Being able to set up real-time video compression/decompression
and transceiving. I've been looking at some of the ScreenMachine and Movie
Machine literature, and am wondering if it would be possible to use them
for this application (I know there are drivers and editing software, but is
there any videoconferencing sw?).
2. Being able to see what is going happening on another screen across
the net. I remember seeing an ad for software that does this - does anyone
know the name.
3. Being able to do 1 & 2 above at the same time so I can talk with
someone and see what is happening on their screen (and vica-versa) would be
the ultimate.
If anyone knows anything about this could they please e-mail me at :
dickw@dino.eng.monash.edu.au
and I'll collate the responses and post them back to the net.
Thanks,
Richard
:-)
From: malloggi@intersoft.next.it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXT PEOPLE NEEDED IN MADRID
Date: 7 Jun 1995 18:14:28 GMT
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Message-ID: <3r4qa4$p5c@dub-news-svc-1.compuserve.com>
References: <3quhlh$g8c$2@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>
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To: malloggi@intersoft.next.it
Jesus M. Izquierdo <72332.3705@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>Need people with experience in NextStep for Intel in Madrid for
>occassional projects. English/Spanish languages.
>
>Please answer with personal E-mail to:
>72332.3705@compuserve.com
>
>Or Tel: 34 1 6779774
>Fax: 34 1 6772649
>
>Jesus Izquierdo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Is there software for the HP Scanjet 3C
Message-ID: <DA28qG.3JA@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 12:44:40 GMT
Hello, World!
I am looking for a way to use a HP Scanjet 3c scanner under
NEXTSTEP 3.3/i486 or a way to get to that scanner through SoftPC 4.0 on that
system (fat chance...).
Does anybody know a way.
Thanks in advance,
--Gerben
From: Jeff Franco <jeff_franco@notes.pw.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EOF Adaptor Problem
Date: 12 Jun 1995 13:23:01 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rhf3l$8cr@news.bdm.com>
While trying to load and compile an app from PB I get this error:
Uncaught exception:
_newDataBaseWithModel:databaseName:: EOModel
file:"users/....dsaa1.eomodel: specifies nonexistent
adaptor with name "Oracle7".
exiting
..Undefined symbols:
Has anybody seen this before, if so, please help.
Thanks,
Jeff Franco
jeff_franco@notes.pw.com
From: desmay@interaccess.com (Dean Esmay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help for newbie needed
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 13:23:04 -0500
Organization: Syndicomm, Inc.
Message-ID: <desmay-1206951323040001@d102.tp.interaccess.com>
I have a friend who has a NeXT and he cannot for the life of him figure
out how to post articles to Usenet using Newsgrazer. Does Newsgrazer have
this ability, and if so, how do you do it?
This guy IS a novice so any advice would be appreciated.
Dean Esmay
---
You don't love me pretty baby, you don't love me, yes I know.
You don't love me pretty baby, you don't love me, yes I know.
But if you leave me pretty baby, don't you know you're gonna hurt me so... (W. Cobb)
"All life itself represents a risk, and the more lovingly we live our lives the more risks we take...." (from "The Road Less Travelled")
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs for NS 4.1 doesn't handle the backspace key?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 19:17:28 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <3rhsr8$qaa@gymir.ifi.uio.no>
References: <3rd5ob$c0m@gymir.ifi.uio.no> <3rf81v$3i@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
In-reply-to: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu's message of 11 Jun 1995 17:10:23 GMT
>>>>> "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@freedom.princeton.edu> writes:
Carl> In article <3rd5ob$c0m@gymir.ifi.uio.no>,
>> I have just installed Emacs for NS 4.1 and discovered that it seems
>> like Emacs now no longer differentiate between the backspace key
>> and the delete key ...
Carl> The code sent by the backspace key was changed between 4.0 and
Carl> 4.1 to conform with the X version and also to allow C-h to be
Carl> used to access the help system.
Carl> Here is the entry on this matter from the Tips and Tricks
Carl> section in the Emacs for NS info page. This section is new in
Carl> 4.1 and highly recommended to all Emacs for NS users.
Carl> "Backspace and delete
Carl> --------------------
Carl> In the computer world there has been no end of confusion
Carl> about the meaning of backspace and delete. Here is the
Carl> convention used by Emacs for NS. Hitting the oblong key at the
Carl> upper right hand corner of your main keypad (usually labeled
Carl> `<--') will generate a `delete' event. Hitting this key while
Carl> holding down a shift key generates a `backspace' event. Both of
Carl> these are distinct from hitting C-h (which invokes the Emacs
Carl> help system).
Carl> By default both `delete' and `backspace' will delete the
Carl> character preceding the cursor. To rebind `delete' to delete the
Carl> character preceding the cursor and `backspace' to delete the
Carl> character under the cursor, do this.
Carl> (global-set-key [delete] 'backward-delete-char-untabify)
Carl> (global-set-key [backspace] 'delete-char)"
Well, that's exactly (almost) what I have always done:
(global-set-key [backspace] 'delete-backward-char)
(global-set-key [delete] 'delete-char)
(The last one is not necessary since this is the default).
OK, but I have one backspace-key and one delete-key on my PC-keyboard,
and I want backsapce to delete backward and delete to delete forward
as I could in the previous version of Emacs.app and as I can in the
standard X version of Emacs. I don't want to be forced to press SHIFT
to get the backspace-function.
So how do I make Emacs understand that when I press the UNSHIFTED
backspace-key, I mean backspace?
(The backspace-key and the delete key has different keycodes).
>> In Emacs for X exiting Emacs with Ctrl-x-c will ask if you want to
>> save unsaved files, in Emacs for NS it doesn't. Would this be
>> possible in the NS-version?
Carl> It is supposed to and it certainly did when I just tried it
Carl> here.
My fault, totally bullshit.
>> In Emacs for X you can use the right mouse button to chose items in
>> info-mode. Would it be possible to have this work in NS too?
Carl> Ditto. It seems there are some configuration changes on your
Carl> machine.
My fault again, I had to enable Menu Button in Preferences.app to make
the right mousebutton work.
Arne
--
Arne Hĺrseth (7-bit coded: Arne Haarseth)
Ma.S student at the University of Oslo, Norway
Email: arneha@ifi.uio.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Make Edit.app Display White-on-Black?
In-Reply-To: andylee@netcom.com's message of Fri, 9 Jun 1995 07:11:43 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun12135911@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <andylee-0906950011430001@idtech.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 17:59:11 GMT
This would be hard to do since Edit.app uses the Text object. If you
really need this, try Emacs.app. It's a NEXTSTEP GUI version of emacs 19.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: data@mcl.ucsb.edu (Manny Santos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Kerberos on NeXT
Date: 12 Jun 1995 17:16:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Message-ID: <3rhsom$sp6@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu>
Summary: Success installing kerberos on NeXT?
Keywords: Kerberos NeXT
Has anyone has had success installing MIT's
Kerberos on a NeXT running NeXTStep 3.0?
I have searched for info on this, and there is close to nothing
out there...
Any help will be much appreciated.
manny
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu
Subject: Re: SoftPC Window Enlargement?
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Sender: usenet@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <liztaff.7.2FDAF26F@cts.com> <DA0MJK.n0t@isltd.insignia.com>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 18:49:10 GMT
>From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk>Subject: Re: SoftPC Window Enlargement?
>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 15:47:44 GMT
>
>In article <liztaff.7.2FDAF26F@cts.com> liztaff@cts.com (elizabeth taff)
>writes:
>> The Sysop at my daughter's school district has installed SoftPC on the
>NeXt in
>> her 5th grade classroom as we wish to run some MSDOS programs on it.
>The
>> monitor is a grayscale monitor with excellent resolution, but the
>window
>> SoftPC is running in is so small that complicated graphics get lost in
>it.
>> Does anyone know of any method to enlarge the window to near full
>screen?
>
>
>You don't specify if you're running on Intel or Black...
>
>If you're on black theres an option on the preferences menu to enlarge
>the size of the window by 1.5. (and by 2 on some releases)
>
>Unfortuantly this option was disabled from 3.11 Intel onwards. Simply
>reenabling the option doesn't help (I tried it!), as the optimisations
>added to improve performance, and the structure of the Intel display
>means that the old code gets confused, and messes up the screen.
>
>However if you're on Intel you should be able to run in full screen
>mode. just type Command-F, and SoftPC should take over the whole screen.
>This isn't guarenteed to work for all video cards, but it does pretty
>well on most. It also speeds things up slightly.
>
>If you still have problems call tech support in Mountain View (the
>number's in the online help).
>
>Ian
I have version 3.00ef on black. When you bring up SoftPC and the
initialization under MS-DOS is complete, you type WIN and Windows
starts its initialization. After a bit, you are given the option
of re-sizing the window using the re-size bars at the bottom corners
of the screen. This not only increases the window size but the
resolution as well (I use 800x600). This worked fine with the
release of NEXTSTEP that I was running when I bought SoftPC but
became very unreliable under subsequent NEXTSTEP releases until
3.3 when it began working nicely again.
___
cfwaltrip
email: waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu
NeXTmail welcome.
//////////////////////////////////////Opinions expressed are my own.
If I said anything that made you think I might know what I'm talking
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Archer)
Subject: (Resolved!) Printer PS fonts --> NeXT font panel
Message-ID: <DA29xq.2pI@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Keywords: PS fonts, HPLJ4M, font panel
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 13:10:38 GMT
Thanks to all that responded. In summation, I'll have to purchase the fonts
for NeXTSTEP :( What the hey, after spending $2000 on a printer I guess you
can't balk at spending another $200 to get the fonts that came in the printer
available on NeXTSTEP (although software was included with the printer for
installation onto Windoze)...
My 3 seconds of gripe is over! Thanks again, all
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher L. Archer Data Processing, University of Waterloo
clarcher@mc4adm.uwaterloo.ca (519) 885-1211 ext. 2292
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu
Subject: Re: PPP and default routes
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 19:03:17 GMT
>From: mail05136@pop.net>Subject: PPP and default routes
>Date: Fri, 09 Jun 95 02:37:28 PDT
>
>
>I'm currently running PPP 2.2 without difficulty save one 'problem.' Since
my
>PPP dialup gives a dynamic IP address, I don't know what to specify as the
>defaultroute in /etc/ppp/options. So I've left that parameter out.
>
>The only avenue remaining is to manually add an entry to the routing table
via
>'route -n add default' after I've connected and know what the IP address of
>ppp0 is. However, I can only modify the routing table as root.
>
>Do I have alternatives so I can dial up as a standard user and still be
able to
>route packets? Any help is appreciated.
>
>Scott Davenport
>mail05136@pop.net
Are you using Felipe Rodriquez's GateKeeper app? Enormously helpful in
getting PPP 2.2 going. In any event, my options file for PPP is below.
Note the comments in the section for defaultroute. PPP do the defaultroute
assignment for you using the IP address for ppp0 that it negotiated with the
server. Nice. You can find out the IP address that was assigned by typing:
ifconfig ppp0
in a terminal window but you don't need to set the defaultroute if you use
the defaultroute option in the PPP options file.
Begin options file:
/dev/cufa 38400 connect "chat -v -f /etc/ppp/pppup"
#
# This is an example options file. The options file
# should be placed in /etc/ppp/options. These options
# are global to all ppp connections. See the "OPTIONS FILES" section
# in the pppd man page for more details.
#
# Options specified here don't need to be respecified
# on the pppd command line. Note: Most of the example
# scripts in this directory assume an empty options file.
# However, it doesn't hurt to respecify them.
#
#
# The size of the Maximum Transfer Unit. Higher values
# give better performance for file transfers. Lower values
# give better performance for interactive performance.
#
#mtu 296
#
# If you want to periodically touch the other end to make
# sure it is still alive, set these options.
#
lcp-echo-interval 15 # interval in seconds between touches
lcp-echo-failure 3 # number of failed attempts before link shutdown
#
# If you want to enable debugging of the pppd process, leave
# this uncommented. Output will be sent to the file
# /usr/adm/ppp2.2.debug (or whatever you set it to in
# /etc/syslog.conf.
#
debug
#
# If you want kernel debugging (i.e. debug output from the
# NeXT LKS), enable this:
#
# kdebug 1 is SC_DEBUG
# 2 is SC_LOG_INPKT
# 4 is SC_LOG_OUTPKT
# 8 is SC_LOG_RAWIN
# 16 is SC_LOG_FLUSH
#
# add together to get debugging you want.
#
kdebug 17
#
# If you want pppd to set the PPP connection as the default
# route when the link is brought up, enable this option.
# Standalone systems dialing into a provider probably want this
# option.
#
defaultroute
#
# These two options disable some of the
# various types of authentication.
#
# Note: Some systems require authenticaion before
# negotiation can complete. If you disable
# authentication on these systems, they will
# not complain, but they will also not allow
# negotiaion to complete and your link will
# not come up.
#
# If you enable either or both of these, you must
# read the pppd man page to create the proper
# secrets files.
#
#-pap
#-chap
#
# This specifies that should use a UUCP-style lock on the
# serial device to ensure exclusive access to the device.
#
lock
#
# Use hardware flow control (i.e. RTS/CTS) to control the
# flow of data on the serial port.
#
# On NeXT, you also must use the proper device.
# /dev/cufa
# -or-
# /dev/cufb
#
crtscts
#
# bsdcomp nr,nt
#
# Request that the peer compress packets that it sends,
# using the BSD-Compress scheme, with a maximum code size
# of nr bits, and agree to compress packets sent to the
# peer with a maximum code size of nt bits. If nt is not
# specified, it defaults to the value given for nr.
# Values in the range 9 to 15 may be used for nr and nt;
# larger values give better compression but consume more
# kernel memory for compression dictionaries. Alterna-
# tively, a value of 0 for nr or nt disables compression
# in the corresponding direction.
#
# It is OK if the peer doesn't support BSD compression. In that
# case, the peer will NAK this option and things will continue
# normally.
#
bsdcomp 10,10
#
# Add an entry to this system's ARP [Address Resolution
# Protocol] table with the IP address of the peer and the
# Ethernet address of this system.
#
# This is only necessary if you are allowing others to dial
# into you (i.e. you are the server).
#proxyarp
End options file.
Hope this helps.
___
cfwaltrip
email: waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu
NeXTmail welcome.
//////////////////////////////////////Opinions expressed are my own.
If I said anything that made you think I might know what I'm talking
about, please disregard it./////////////////////////////////////////
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu
Subject: Re: Help PPP2.3 not working
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>From: Carolee Rand >Subject: Help PPP2.3 not working
>Date: 8 Jun 1995 19:44:22 GMT
>
>Help needed setting up PPP2.2 and/or PPP2.3 on motorola NextStep Box
running
>v.3.2.
>
>Each time I try to connect, I get the same error messages. The login and
>password exchange works fine, however the server disconnects because it
>doesn't see my system as a PPP connection.
Are you using kermit to make the connection, manually log in and then escape
back to kermit command mode to kick off PPP? If you're not getting PPP
started then, indeed, the remote server will eventually kick you off.
>This is what shows up in the
>logs:
>
>---Taken from the PPP log file:
>
> [...material deleted...]
>May 17 22:05:34 chipomat2 pppd[243]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
>May 17 22:05:34 chipomat2 pppd[243]: Connection terminated.
>May 17 22:05:34 chipomat2 pppd[243]: Serial link is not 8-bit clean:
>May 17 22:05:34 chipomat2 pppd[243]: All received characters had bit 7 set
to 0
>
Well, this seems to indicate that modem settings weren't to the
server's liking (as would the console.log below which would, indeed,
suggest that you were starting up PPP successfully whether via kermit or
whatever). Now PPP 2.2 (haven't gotten 2.3 yet) has chat scripts for
various modems...hopefully they have one for your modem and you can see
from it what the settings should be for your modem. However, your modem
MAY not be the problem. I believe some servers may require you to issue
commands to set up the modem properly on their end. If you're lucky,
the server has a help, h or ? command that may tell you what needs to
be done.
>
>------------This appeared on the console log:
>disabling Flush... continuing...
>ppp0: garbage received: 0x8 (need PPP_ALLSTATIONS 0xFF)
>FLUSHING....
>ppp0 input: 31 7d 27 7d 22 7d 00 7d 22 60 24 7e 08 08 7d 23
>ppp0 input: 40 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20
>ppp0 input: 32 7d 21
>ppp0 input: 24 7d 25 5c 7d 25 7d 26 2c 5e 3c 31 7d 27 7d 22
>Disabling Flush... continuing...
>
> [...material deleted...]
Good luck.
___
cfwaltrip
email: waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu
NeXTmail welcome.
//////////////////////////////////////Opinions expressed are my own.
If I said anything that made you think I might know what I'm talking
about, please disregard it./////////////////////////////////////////
From: jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: tin-1.3 compiles with gcc-2.5.8 only
Date: 12 Jun 1995 19:13:08 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Message-ID: <JBRYANS.95Jun12121308@tern.csulb.edu>
References: <3qkfgt$pmo@neptune.ethz.ch>
In-reply-to: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch's message of 1 Jun 1995 13:32:13 GMT
To: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge)
In article <3qkfgt$pmo@neptune.ethz.ch> daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) writes:
> I just came across the latest version of tin, my favorite Newsreader
> but when compiling I always got an error:
>
> /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/sys/param.h:39: warning: redefinition of macro BSD
> signal.c:59: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `)'
> signal.c:62: illegal external declaration, found `{'
> *** Exit 1
Try it w/the -traditional-cpp flag.
Here's how I built it. You should be able to adapt it to your own
situation.
gmake -k MAKE=gmake CC=cc \
> DEBUG='-traditional-cpp -O2 -g -I/usr/local/include -arch m68k -arch i486 \
> -DINEWSDIR=\"/usr/local/bin\" -DDONT_LOG_USER -DHAVE_ISPELL' \
> INEWS_MAIL_GATEWAY=our.mail.domain NNTP_DEFAULT_SERVER=our.news.server \
> LIBDIR= SPOOLDIR= INN_NNTPLIB='-lresolv -l44bsd' bsd
Note that INN_NNTPLIB was used to kludge in add'l linkage libraries.
Jack
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: freeware Fax software ?
In-Reply-To: rbz@eversoft.com's message of 12 Jun 1995 03:04:49 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Jun12185237@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3rdo4f$me7@News1.mcs.com> <3rgash$1cq@feenix.metronet.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 22:52:36 GMT
You can try the shareware (20$) JollysZyxelFax:
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/fax/JollysZyXEL_Fax..
I think it will work. You can also try mgetty+sendfax:
http://www.leo.org/~doering/mgetty/index.html
(You must compile this one though).
Francois Magnan
--
______________________________________________________
Francois Magnan
Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques
Universite de Montreal
email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: VideoConferencing & RemoteDemos
In-Reply-To: dickw@dino.eng.monash.edu.au's message of 12 Jun 1995 09:06:29 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun12213852@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3rh02l$20q@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 01:38:52 GMT
WatchMe by OtherWise Software is an excellent product for item #2. Try
info@otherwise.com.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help PPP2.3 not working
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 13 Jun 1995 01:44:56 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3riqio$a8@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
References: <3r7jum$pp7@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> <950612152633.534AAEiG.chuck@kant.jhuapl.edu>
Summary: PPP2.2 for NeXT
Keywords: PPP workaround
waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu wrote:
>>From: Carolee Rand <rand@sewp.nasa.gov>
>>Help needed setting up PPP2.2 and/or PPP2.3 on motorola NextStep Box
>running
>>v.3.2.
>>
>>Each time I try to connect, I get the same error messages. The login and
>>password exchange works fine, however the server disconnects because it
>>doesn't see my system as a PPP connection.
[... long copies of log files omitted ...]
I had exactly the same problem. I couldn't figure what the problem was, but the
workaround I use is to get kermit to do the work, then hand over an *authenticated*
connection (don't ask me how it knows) that pppd has no trouble with. My connect.sh
shell script invokes kermit with the following script file (between the --snips--):
---- snip -----
set modem unknown
dial atdt4823444
input 20 ogin:
if SUCCESS output khiebert%ppp\13
else quit
input 10 assword:
if SUCCESS output YOURPASSWORDGOESHERE\13
else quit
input 20 session
if SUCCESS pppd
else quit
---- snip ----
The following is my .kermrc file (from dir that you run kermit from):
---- snip ----
set modem unknown
set term byte 8
set line /dev/cufa
set speed 38400
# define pppd
define pppd -
!pppd < \v(line) > \v(line) defaultroute
---- snip -----
Don't ask me why it works. It just does. Hope it helps.
---
Kevin Hiebert <khiebert@wimsey.com> http://www.wimsey.com/~khiebert/
* MIME/NeXTmail welcome * PGP public key available for secure messages *
From: pgriffin@anole (Paul A Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 02:12:15 GMT
Organization: Internet Exchange Carrier
Message-ID: <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch>
daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote:
> zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
> : What kind of news readers are available for Next and where?
> There are 4 NeXTSTEP Newsreader which I'm aware of:
> -daniel
> --
> Daniel G. Kluge - cs-student @ Federal Institute of Technology Zurich
> E-Mail: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome) [ Pager 152-99-54082 ]
Don't forget Alexandria 0.8, a NewsGrazer like reader which doesn't
bomb all the time. There was recently a posting on ..anounce from the authors.
I like it very much. The icons are cool too.
--Paul
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Kerberos on NeXT
Date: 13 Jun 1995 05:47:36 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3rj8po$agc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3rhsom$sp6@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu>
Keywords: Kerberos NeXT
data@mcl.ucsb.edu (Manny Santos) writes:
>Has anyone has had success installing MIT's
>Kerberos on a NeXT running NeXTStep 3.0?
>I have searched for info on this, and there is close to nothing
>out there...
I compiled most of Kerberos V5 beta 4 patch 3 on NEXTSTEP 3.2. It
was certainly non-trivial, and I still am stuck on ktelnet (the
client). I am certainly far from finished, as I only have kinit and
kpasswd working.
I also got the CNS V4 stuff to compile pretty much easily.
Try NS 3.2, it has many fixes. (and is somewhat POSIX compliant,
which makes it easier)
--
David Lemson (217) 244-8833
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: gurpalsi@iscs.nus.sg (Gurpal Singh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Search Engines on the WEB
Date: 13 Jun 1995 08:16:43 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
Message-ID: <3rjhhb$9vb@nuscc.nus.sg>
Hi!
Could you please send ideas or information about search engines, more specifically, ideas for the design for an `ideal' as well as user-friendly searcher and indexer.....
Please enlighten me also on the various ways in which information which has already been retrieved from the web can be presented....
Thank you very much,
Gurpal Singh <gurpalsi@iscs.nus.sg>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: Stand Alone NeXTstation needs PPP Software & a little help
Message-ID: <DA3qJL.59F@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
References: <filipone-3005951459380001@port35.ventura.rain.org> <D9ILFw.FIF@eunet.ch>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 08:06:57 GMT
I have come to the conclusion that if you think security aspects (firewall/packet
filtering) is important, Morningstar PPP is the way to go.
If you don't think security is important, you can as well use the free ppp-2.2
which is easy to install (though don't make the silly mistakes I made) and works
like a charm.
--Gerben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <a-gain.hanse.de!stefan@ccwnoc.hanse.de>
Message-ID: <m0sJc8q-000btOC@a-gain>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:36:34 +0100
Subject: Scantastic 2.x for HPs ScanJet 3C ??
Does Scantastic 2.0 work with the new HP 3C??
Thanx!
---
.. Stefan ..
Life has many different colors, but ------ REAL Computing is black!
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Stefan Huelf
voice + 49 - 40 - 480 79 19 <---> fax + 49 - 40 - 480 11 92
stefan@a-gain.hanse.de ( NeXTmail favorized / MIME o.k.! )
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: Engage! Desktop Users
Message-ID: <jpanicoDA3x4u.1u3@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D9tJ2p.4F3@eskimo.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:29:17 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom8.netcom.com
Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote:
: I'm evaluating this application, and am interested in your feedback.
: --
: >< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
: >< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
After VirtSpace, Engage! is my favorite NeXT app of all time. I find
Engage to be indispensable. I'm not familiar with the monster bookshelf,
another product mentioned in this thread, but I should point out that
Engage does more that just extend the dock. It also replaces the background
(root window) with a background into which WM icons can be placed (through
drag and drop). These icons can then be clicked on for fast WM navigation.
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: kraft@castor.cs (Boris Kraft)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP! -- gcc, flex & bison -- strange error
Date: 13 Jun 1995 13:19:59 GMT
Organization: Computational Linguistics Dept., U Saarbruecken
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <KRAFT.95Jun13151959@castor.cs>
Dear netters,
as usual I am posting this because I have reached the limits
of my knowledge, and am unable to deepen it alone. I am writing a
compiler, using the tools "flex" "bison" and "gcc", and its
supposed to run on a NeXT-station as well as on a SUN ELC. The
following is valid for the NeXT only!
I get a segmentation fault for my program, and starting gdb, I find
out the following:
Program generated(1): Memory access exception on address 0x3d0b580
(invalid address).
0x3d52 in yyparse () at /usr/local/lib/bison.simple:186
186 {
(gdb)
O.K., I am not doing much before I call yyparse, and it seems to me
that instead of jumping to the right address for yyparse, I am
stranded in nirvana, because the gdb tells me where I am in the source
(at the very start of yyparse) and on which address (0x3d52) but the
address is invalid.
How might this happen, I wonder. Usually, I could assume that my
c-code is writing some crap right there into the memory where the
address for yyparse should be written. Of course, this is difficult to
check. As I said, there is not much going on before I call yyparse,
just the opening of an input-file, so there is really nothing
happening before I call yyparse.
The yacc-file has about 3000 lines of code, about 2500 are rules and
actions, so there are quite a few tokens and rules involved. Could
this be a problem? I wrote a very simple parser, which only opens a
file and writes its contents to stdout, and this one works, so the
error could lie within my own code (as usual).
Here is the code that is executed before I call "yyparse"
---------8<-----------------------------------------------------------
FILE* inputFile = NULL;
functions* allFunctions = NULL;
functions* simFunctions = NULL;
da* replacements = NULL;
int shellCount = 0;
int statementCount = 0;
int simCalls = 0;
int standardCalls = 0;
int doCompleteAnalysis = 1;
extern FILE *yyin;
extern int yydebug;
extern int line;
void main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
int argIndex = 1;
int doPrintShells = 0;
int doPrintCalls = 0;
int doPrintSets = 0;
char* inputFileName = NULL;
char* inputFileSuffix = NULL;
char outputFileName[1024] = "";
char msFileSuffix[32];
int len;
#ifdef YYDEBUG
yydebug = 1;
#endif
inputFileName = argv[1];
inputFile = fopen (inputFileName, "r");
if ((inputFile) == NULL) {
fprintf (stderr, "\nCould not open file %s", inputFileName);
exit(111);
}
/* the actual parsing */
yyin = inputFile;
while(!feof(yyin))
{
yyparse();
}
...
---------8<-----------------------------------------------------------
Here is the data:
palantir[6]: gdb msc
GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details.
GDB 4.7 (NeXT 3.1), Copyright 1992 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
Reading symbols from /Users/bkraft/PROSE/mscTest/msc...done.
Reading symbols from /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib...done.
I examined the memory. It is not changed after I start the program, so
it seems as if nothing gets overwritten ...
(gdb) x/30ib yyparse-96
0x3cec <file2string+118>: asrb #4,d0
0x3cee <file2string+120>: bra 0x3cba <file2string+68>
0x3cf0 <file2string+122>: moveal #-100008,a0
0x3cf6 <file2string+128>: cmpil #99999,0(a0)[fp.l]
0x3cfe <file2string+136>: ble 0x3d24 <file2string+174>
0x3d00 <file2string+138>: pea @#0x19c8c <_fvmlib_init1+16852>
0x3d06 <file2string+144>: pea @#0x16e
0x3d0a <file2string+148>: pea @#0x19c1b <_fvmlib_init1+16739>
0x3d10 <file2string+154>: pea @#0x19c25 <_fvmlib_init1+16749>
0x3d16 <file2string+160>: bsrl 0x50041de <libsys_s.B.shlib_jmp_table+8670>
0x3d1c <file2string+166>: addqw #8,sp
0x3d1e <file2string+168>: addqw #8,sp
0x3d20 <file2string+170>: bra 0x3d24 <file2string+174>
0x3d24 <file2string+174>: movel fp,d0
0x3d26 <file2string+176>: addil #-100004,d0
0x3d2c <file2string+182>: movel d0,sp@-
0x3d2e <file2string+184>: bsrl 0x1593c <strdup>
0x3d34 <file2string+190>: addqw #4,sp
0x3d36 <file2string+192>: movel d0,d1
0x3d38 <file2string+194>: movel d1,d0
0x3d3a <file2string+196>: bra 0x3d3e <file2string+200>
0x3d3e <file2string+200>: moveal #-100008,a0
0x3d44 <file2string+206>: movel -4(fp)[a0.l],d2
0x3d48 <file2string+210>: unlk fp
0x3d4a <file2string+212>: rts
0x3d4c <yyparse>: linkl fp,#-3097248
0x3d52 <yyparse+6>: moveml d2-d5/a2-a5,sp@-
0x3d56 <yyparse+10>: clrl fp@(-8)
0x3d5a <yyparse+14>: moveal #-3079612,a0
0x3d60 <yyparse+20>: lea fp@(-408),a5
(gdb) p yyparse
$1 = {int ()} 0x3d4c <yyparse>
(gdb) p *yyparse
$2 = {int ()} 0x3d4c <yyparse>
I set a breakpoint on "yyparse":
(gdb) b yyparse
Breakpoint 1 at 0x3d56: /usr/local/lib/bison.simple:192.
I start the programm, and I get the error at the moment (?) the
function "yyparse" is called:
(gdb) r
Starting program: /Users/bkraft/PROSE/mscTest/msc cctTest.ML.ms
Program generated(1): Memory access exception on address 0x3d0b580
(invalid address).
0x3d52 in yyparse () at /usr/local/lib/bison.simple:186
186 {
(gdb) p *yyparse
$4 = {int ()} 0x3d4c <yyparse>
Here I checked the memory again, I had the same result as above -- I
do not repeat the data. As you can see, the inputFileName has been
provided, and the file has been opened correctly:
(gdb) p *yyin
Reading in symbols for lex.yy.c...done.
$5 = {
_cnt = 0,
_ptr = 0x0,
_base = 0x0,
_bufsiz = 0,
_flag = 1,
_file = 3 '\003',
_smallbuf = 0 '\000'
}
(gdb) up
#1 0xb5d4 in main (argc=2, argv=0x3fffc80) at msc.y:2491
2491 yyparse();
(gdb) p inputFileName
$6 = 0x3fffcd8 "cctTest.ML.ms"
Tough one?
Here are the version numbers of the tools I use:
palantir[23]: gcc -v
Reading specs from /lib/m68k/specs
NeXT Computer, Inc. version cc-216.obj~13, gcc version 2.2.2
palantir[24]: flex --version
flex version 2.5.2
palantir[25]: bison -V
GNU Bison version 1.22
Any suggestions? Your help is highly appreciated -- I am loosing my
faith on this one, and I need to get this job done -- its part of my
diploma thesis!
--
Cheers,
Boris
____________________________________________________________________________
I've never seen a dead body before ...
I've seen my grandmother, of course, but I suppose that doesn't count --
I mean -- she was alive at that time. ('Shallow Grave')
____________________________________________________________________________
Boris Kraft | mail: kraft@cs.uni-sb.de
Dept of Computer Science |
Universitaet des Saarlandes, Germany |
____________________________________________________________________________
From: garrett@opensource.com (Garrett L. Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: freeware Fax software ?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 14:58:53 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rk93d$9ed@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3rgash$1cq@feenix.metronet.com>
In article <3rgash$1cq@feenix.metronet.com> rbz@eversoft.com writes:
:tmeyer@mcs.com wrote:
:>I plan on buying a USRobotics v.34 28.8 modem very soon. Although I've
:>been told that NXFax isn't compatible with these modems, I still plan on
:>buying one since I don't fax very often, but I still have some
questions:
:>1) Is anyone using NXFax w/ a Courier modem even though B&W says it
isn't
:>compatible ?
:
:It doesn't work. I know, I tried! USRobotics v.34 28.8 modem is a
:Class 1 fax modem. NXFax only supports Class 2 fax modems. I just
:replaced my USRobotics 28.8 with a Supra 28.8 faxmodem. It works
:perfect with NXFax.
:
Actually, it isn't NXFax that has trouble with Class 1 fax modems.
NEXTSTEP itself does not support anything but Class 2 fax modems. At
least that is my understanding.
Garrett L. Rice
OpenSource, Inc.
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012, Denver, CO 80203
800.TRY.OPEN (879.6736) OR 1.303.861.4411
303.861.2393 FAX
garrett@opensource.com (NeXTmail)
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Test
Date: 13 Jun 1995 17:14:38 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <3rkh1u$se4@news.iastate.edu>
This is a test. I was previously not able to post to any news groups...
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: laz@curly.sed.stel.com (John Lazorisak)
Subject: RARP...
Message-ID: <DA4G7p.HK1@sed.stel.com>
Summary: RARP on NS Intel box
Keywords: RARP
Sender: news@sed.stel.com (News Service Owner)
Organization: Stanford Telecom, Inc. Reston, VA
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 17:21:25 GMT
Does anyone know how to get intel based NS to provide
RARP services?
I have a diskless Sun 3/60 which gets its ip via RARP and
I was hoping that I could get my NS box to do this...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Lazorisak Stanford Telecom laz@sed.stel.com
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Shakespeare/Quotations?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 22:13:44 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <3rie6o$kv9@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
Are these two still available under NeXTStep? If so, where do I get them
from?
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance (ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu)
AGSM at UCLA
From: ecwong@ucsd.edu (Eric C. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Which X for NeXTStep Intel?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 19:04:07 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <3rknf7$ssr@network.ucsd.edu>
Which of the X windows environments for NeXTStep Intel is best? (PD or
commercial). Any data, either objective or subjective, on X performance
vs X/linux running native on similar hardware? I only need runtime stuff.
Thanks in advance,
Eric
From: mark@ccc1.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TickleServices?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 19:04:11 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <3rknfb$4j2@news.tamu.edu>
Does anyone know where Tickle Services can be found?
Thanks
Mark A. Doucet
TAMU
NEXTMail accepted
From: rog@talisker.ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I've just got 3.3 -- Please help me!
Date: 13 Jun 1995 19:55:36 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3rkqfo$aa5@mailer.york.ac.uk>
ok, so we've finally got 3.3, which all looks fine apart from one or
two annoying niggles.
a) where is the documentation for Application ?
on our installation, the file
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/GeneralRef/02_ApplicationKit/Classes/Application.rtf
has the documentation for ActionCell in it!
b) is there a fat (i386/m68k) version of Stuart anywhere ?
some of Terminal's problems appear to have been fixed, but it has
developed an annoying habit of spraying spurious highlighting
around the screen (and i miss ALT-CTRL-downarrow as well)
c) is there a reason why HeaderViewer can no longer view multiple documents at once ?
i guess there's not likely to be a fix to this one.
any ideas on the above appreciated,
cheers,
rog. (rog@ohm.york.ac.uk)
From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFF to GIF conversion software?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 19:41:39 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rkplj$rmm@shelob.afs.com>
Is there software that runs on NEXTSTEP that will do _bulk_ converion
of TIFF files to GIF (or JPEG, BMP, or any format that has exactly
one standard)? NeXT apparently has some of it's own extensions to
the TIFF format that keep my Windoze apps from reading some TIFFs
that originated on NS.
I know TIFFany saves to JPEG, but I have a lot of tiffs to convert.
And please don't flame me about Windoze, it's not a matter of choice
in this case. :-)
Thanx,
Michael
--
Michael Pizolato, CTO
Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
From: rhess@taligent.COM (Richard L. Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TickleServices?
Date: 13 Jun 95 13:13:16
Organization: Taligent Inc, Cupertino, California.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RHESS.95Jun13131316@taligent.COM>
References: <3rknfb$4j2@news.tamu.edu>
In-reply-to: mark@ccc1.tamu.edu's message of 13 Jun 1995 19:04:11 GMT
try "Scott's Home Page": http://www.winternet.com/~shess/
(I'm sure it's also somewhere on ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/)
+-------------------------------------------------------------[ Richard Hess ]
phone: 408.777.5612
email: rhess@taligent.com
From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Question about VirtSpace
Date: 13 Jun 1995 21:08:42 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rkuoq$jdd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
I bought VirtSpace for my son a few months ago, and in the process of
learning how to use it, he managed to reduce the window to a short
vertical line on the screen! We have tried, in vain, to restore the
window to its original size. Destroying the app and reloading it onto the
hard disk failed to solve the problem. Is a hidden file of some kind
causing this behavior? We'll try to catch a clue if someone will toss one
our way. TIA to anyone who is willing to lend a helping hand.
Jim
From: bajwa@gov.yk.ca (Bob Bajwa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Engage! Desktop Users
Date: 10 Jun 1995 19:02:10 GMT
Organization: YukonNet Operating Society
Message-ID: <3rcq7i$e09@spot.YKnet.yk.ca>
References: <3rb0uu$54g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In article <3rb0uu$54g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes:
> I use Fiend, which is a MUCH enhanced version of MonsterShelf (you'd
> hardly recognize it), includes Backspace, a background image
> facility, dock and desktop shelf extenders... Just about everything
> Engage! does, and at a VERY reasonable shareware price. I can't live
> without it!
>
Here is another person who can't live without Fiend. The current version
of Fiend, 1.3, runs on all 4 NeXTSTEP platforms. Fiend's author David
Lambert is a nice guy and open to suggestions on improving the app.
There are a few things I wish Fiend would do that Engage includes. For
example, you can assign a icon to a Level in Engage but not in Fiend.
-bob B.
STEPUP Technologies
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: RARP...
In-Reply-To: laz@curly.sed.stel.com's message of Tue, 13 Jun 1995 17:21:25 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun14005007@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <DA4G7p.HK1@sed.stel.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 04:50:07 GMT
Can it get it from bootp instead?
Robert
From: 0006154763@mcimail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTIME App
Date: 13 Jun 1995 22:03:14 GMT
Organization: MCI Communications
Message-ID: <3rl1v2$opi@hermes.dna.mci.com>
I am under the impression the movie viewer, NEXTIME.APP, does not ship
with any current versions of NeXTSTEP. Where can it be retrieved, or
purchased, then? Is NEXT keeping it current? What is the latest version?
From: richardw@rover (Richard Whittaker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Auto News poster for NeXT?..
Date: 13 Jun 1995 22:43:02 GMT
Organization: YukonNet Operating Society
Message-ID: <3rl49m$7v0@spot.YKnet.yk.ca>
Greetings from the Yukon..
Has anyone out there got an AUtomated news pster for NeXT?.. WE need
one to post our weekly/monthly usage stats to the local user group,
and are running INN as our newsserver..
Any help would be much appreciated..
Thanks!.
Richard W.
From: richardw@rover (Richard Whittaker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC server for NeXT?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 22:44:30 GMT
Organization: YukonNet Operating Society
Message-ID: <3rl4ce$7v0@spot.YKnet.yk.ca>
Greetings again from the Yukon!.
Does anyone out there have an IRC server sucessfully compiled/modified
for NeXTStep 3.3?.. We would like to offer IRC (and possibly MUD)
services to our user base..
Thanks!
RIchard W.
From: mskopin@clark.net (m skopinski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC Window Enlargement?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 10:46:42 -0400
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <3rmsoi$l57@clark.net>
References: <liztaff.7.2FDAF26F@cts.com> <DA0MJK.n0t@isltd.insignia.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <DA0MJK.n0t@isltd.insignia.com>,
<ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <liztaff.7.2FDAF26F@cts.com> liztaff@cts.com (elizabeth taff)
>writes:
>> The Sysop at my daughter's school district has installed SoftPC on the
>NeXt in
>> her 5th grade classroom as we wish to run some MSDOS programs on it.
>The
>> monitor is a grayscale monitor with excellent resolution, but the
>window
>> SoftPC is running in is so small that complicated graphics get lost in
>it.
>> Does anyone know of any method to enlarge the window to near full
>screen?
>
>
>You don't specify if you're running on Intel or Black...
>
>If you're on black theres an option on the preferences menu to enlarge
>the size of the window by 1.5. (and by 2 on some releases)
>
>Unfortuantly this option was disabled from 3.11 Intel onwards. Simply
>reenabling the option doesn't help (I tried it!), as the optimisations
>added to improve performance, and the structure of the Intel display
>means that the old code gets confused, and messes up the screen.
>
>However if you're on Intel you should be able to run in full screen
>mode. just type Command-F, and SoftPC should take over the whole screen.
>This isn't guarenteed to work for all video cards, but it does pretty
>well on most. It also speeds things up slightly.
>
>If you still have problems call tech support in Mountain View (the
>number's in the online help).
>
>Ian
The Intel full screen does have a slight bug in that it reorganizes the
characters on the scree so that the image is disernable. What you have
to do is clear the screen and redo any DOS command that you have done.
If, however, you are using a Windows app, you will be prompeted that you
must run in full screen mode and the image is not distorted.
Milton
From: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs for NS 4.1 doesn't handle the backspace key?
Date: 13 Jun 1995 14:51:31 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <3rk8lj$lun@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <3rd5ob$c0m@gymir.ifi.uio.no> <3rf81v$3i@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <3rhsr8$qaa@gymir.ifi.uio.no>
In article <3rhsr8$qaa@gymir.ifi.uio.no>,
Arne Christian Hĺrseth <arneha@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
> OK, but I have one backspace-key and one delete-key on my PC-keyboard,
> and I want backsapce to delete backward and delete to delete forward
> as I could in the previous version of Emacs.app and as I can in the
> standard X version of Emacs. I don't want to be forced to press SHIFT
> to get the backspace-function.
Aha ! Now I think I understand what you mean. The second key you
mean is I believe called kp-delete and you should be able to rebind it
independently.
As a general rule if you want to rebind some event but don't know what
the code is, just generate it (i.e. press the key) and then do a
view-lossage (usually bound to C-h l). That will give you a list of
all recent events and tell you what name you should use.
If two different keys generate the same event (shouldn't happen), or
you have additional keys on your keyboard you want to support under NS
(I tried to include all keys on all keyboards I could find, but
doubtlessly I missed some) or you just want to alter what events
certain keys generate, even that can be done with a line or two of
elisp code. But that is an advanced subject, I'll only discuss if
necessary. :)
In any case, all these questions are best directed to and discussed on
the emacs-for-ns-users mailing list. Here is the subscription
information from the Emacs for NS manual.
"There are also two mailing lists for Emacs for NS,
<emacs-for-ns-users@lists.princeton.edu> and
<emacs-for-ns-announce@lists.princeton.edu>. The former is intended
for general discussion and allows anybody to post. The latter
restricts posting and should contain only a handful of announcements
of new releases every year. Both of these lists are handled by the
CREN Listproc which means that you can subscribe and unsubscribe
automatically. For example, to subscribe to emacs-for-ns-users I'd
send a message with the content `SUBSCRIBE emacs-for-ns-users Carl
Edman' to <listproc@lists.princeton.edu>. For more details write to
the same address with the content `HELP'."
BTW, you should enter _your_ name in the subscribe message. We
already have several "Carl Edman"s on the list. :)
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: asWedit 1.1 - HTML 3, 2 & text editor for X/Motif
Message-ID: <D9x5MC.Ht@ex-nihilo.com>
Sender: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: ex nihilo, inc.
References: <950605144207.747AAEgH.cikan@anne>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 18:49:23 GMT
>Announcing ...
>--------------
> asWedit HTML 3 and HTML 2 editor Version 1.1 (English Release)
>
> [ ... ]
>
>Following platforms are supported:
>
> file Id System OS
> ----------------------------------------------------
[ ... ]
> fat3.next3 HP-PA,NeXT,i486 NeXTSTEP 3.x
This is somewhat misleading (I found the hard way :).
Note that you NEED the X/Motif libs (I guess from a program like CubX) for this to work.
Too bad the author didn't make this a native NS app. Oh well...
---
Dino Bagdadi
ex nihilo, inc.
dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Message-ID: <D9zyBM.1B9@ex-nihilo.com>
Sender: dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: ex nihilo, inc.
References: <3r0u7i$8uu@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 07:04:34 GMT
In article <3r0u7i$8uu@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) writes:
> Hate to sound like an echo but OmniWeb is really your best choice. It has
> improved dramatically over the last two releases. I much prefer the newest
> OmniWeb to any other browser :)
NOT!
Do yourself a favor and fetch a copy of Netsurfer. You'll be happy to see that someone
has taken a fresh (and more intuitive) approach to surfing the net than just trying to
copy Mosaic or Netscape's Navigator.
Netsurfer can be found at http://www.netsurfer.com/
Have fun.
---
Dino Bagdadi
ex nihilo, inc.
dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@shadow.net'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: Question about VirtSpace
Message-ID: <DA5KAB.D4@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte
References: <3rkuoq$jdd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:46:59 GMT
In article <3rkuoq$jdd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov
(James G. Blencoe) writes:
> I bought VirtSpace for my son a few months ago, and in the process of
> learning how to use it, he managed to reduce the window to a short
> vertical line on the screen! We have tried, in vain, to restore the
> window to its original size. Destroying the app and reloading it onto
the
> hard disk failed to solve the problem. Is a hidden file of some kind
> causing this behavior? We'll try to catch a clue if someone will toss
one
> our way. TIA to anyone who is willing to lend a helping hand.
>
> Jim
Hello,
this is a bug in VirtSpace and in the latest release its fixed. I had the
same problem and this problem can be solved through following:
Launch Terminal.app and type the following:
dread -o VirtSpace | dremove
This will completely remove all your VirtSpace
settings and allow you to set it up again.
We were able to reproduce it and will look into fixing it.
Ian H. Stewart
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Manfred R hr Elisabethstrasse 88 24143 Kiel Germany
-----------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de
FAX: +49 431 733 483
PHONE: +49 431 73 45 39
From: chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Christian Musinszki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: displaying .avi-video-files
Date: 14 Jun 1995 09:39:03 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3rmann$33d@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hello,
does anyone know an application that can be used to process and/or display
video-files in .avi format. Any platform (intel/motorola) is welcome.
("Scene" does not understand .avi-files. )
Thanks
--
Chris Musinszki Tel. 06131/17 20 22
Medizinische Informatik Fax. 06131/17 29 68
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik
und Dokumentation (Universitaetskliniken Mainz)
55101 Mainz, Germany
(email:chris@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: zazula@netcom.com (Ralph Zazula)
Subject: Re: Question about VirtSpace
Message-ID: <zazulaDA4z9J.Fsr@netcom.com>
Sender: zazula@netcom.netcom.com
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3rkuoq$jdd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 00:12:55 GMT
In article <3rkuoq$jdd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov writes:
>I bought VirtSpace for my son a few months ago, and in the process of
>learning how to use it, he managed to reduce the window to a short
>vertical line on the screen! We have tried, in vain, to restore the
>window to its original size. Destroying the app and reloading it onto the
>hard disk failed to solve the problem. Is a hidden file of some kind
>causing this behavior? We'll try to catch a clue if someone will toss one
>our way. TIA to anyone who is willing to lend a helping hand.
>
>Jim
Hi -
The sizes are stored in the defaults database (if I remember
correctly). You can remove all the defaults by saying:
dread -o VirtSpace | dremove
from the command line. The next time you run the application, it should
start with the default setup.
Ralph
---
Ralph Zazula
zazula@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: Question about VirtSpace
Message-ID: <jpanicoDA5wqt.Foq@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3rkuoq$jdd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> <DA5KAB.D4@manki.toppoint.de>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 12:16:05 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
Manfred Roehr (manroe@manki.toppoint.de) wrote:
: this is a bug in VirtSpace and in the latest release its fixed. I had the
: same problem and this problem can be solved through following:
: --
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: Manfred R hr Elisabethstrasse 88 24143 Kiel Germany
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de
: FAX: +49 431 733 483
: PHONE: +49 431 73 45 39
Is VirtSpace still being worked on? I bought a copy 2 years ago that still
has a couple of bugs (I get an occasional weird DPS error message in the
console). Every time I ask, I'm told that VirtSpace has not been worked
on since Pinnacle sold it. Any info?
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Want to Trade Dataphile for Create
Message-ID: <DA5FIp.BML@eskimo.com>
Sender: usenet@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <950609002457.229AAC7E.kevin@ksmith>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 06:04:01 GMT
K. Smith (ksmith@telesource.com) wrote:
: I now have a permanent license for Create which has- get
: this- expired. Since the latest version is not backward-compatible, Stone
: Design says I must, AGAIN, upgrade to another supposedly-fixed release in
: order to solve the problem.
Of course your key won't work with an upgrade. Neither will mine, but
I can *still* work with v2.1. "Expiration", humbug! You're crying
over spoiled milk. You want the upgrade? Then pony up! The Stone
team has to make a living. You want freebees? Cross over to Linux.
Nuff said . . . .
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | No NeXTMail yet. I'm gettin' there! ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff images ><
From: chuck@racine (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: ARP...
Date: 14 Jun 1995 15:29:24 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rmv8k$mli@www.its.com>
References: <DA4G7p.HK1@sed.stel.com>
laz@curly.sed.stel.com (John Lazorisak) wrote:
> Does anyone know how to get intel based NS to provide
> RARP services?
> I have a diskless Sun 3/60 which gets its ip via RARP and
> I was hoping that I could get my NS box to do this...
Sure. Edit /etc/rc and enable the bootpd, which gets started in these lines:
# If /etc/bootptab file exists, become a BOOTP server. Note
# that bootpd gets information from /etc/bootptab even when
# NetInfo is running (the per-client information comes from
# NetInfo; the global information comes from /etc/bootptab).
if [ -f /usr/etc/bootpd -a -f /etc/bootptab ]; then
/usr/etc/bootpd && (echo -n ' bootpd') >/dev/console
fi
Normally, only a machine with NETMASTER=-YES- will run this, but you can change this
if you wish. Note that you need to create the /etc/bootptab file with the appropriate
information; consult the manpages and/or the Sysadmin documents.
-Chuck
--
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Techology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+--------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: chuck@racine.its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandria.app
Date: 14 Jun 1995 16:27:47 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rn2m3$mli@www.its.com>
References: <DA4G7p.HK1@sed.stel.com> <3rmv8k$mli@www.its.com>
> Path: news.its.com!usenet
> From: chuck@racine (Chuck Swiger)
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
It looks like Alexandria.app doesn't ensure a FQDN for the "From:" header. Let me add a
"Reply-to:" field and see whether that will help.
-Chuck
--
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Techology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+--------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) Viewer?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 09:02:43 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rm8jj$sju@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
References: <2154758142.186729056@swisslink.alphanet.ch>
In article <2154758142.186729056@swisslink.alphanet.ch>
lsumi@swisslink.alphanet.ch (Lionel Sumi) writes:
>> Does such an animal exist for NS? Mail to me at pohl@acton.com if
>> you can reference one.
>
> You can use NeXTIMe to view the Acrobat .pdf files, but I don't heard from
> anyone for a writing version on NeXTstep.
Nonsense. NEXTIME is a movie player. It knows nothing about Acrobat PDF files.
Elder versions of the PDF format (1.0) can be viewed with Tailor (2.0).
The actual version of Adobe Acrobat PDF (1.1) could be viewed with
GhostScript (3.33), but a native NEXTSTEP application is on the way.
Detlev
PS:
Lionel apparently answered a nearly two month old posting from April'95.
--
Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany
Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: a5qqc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (Hong Hsu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help on multiple-partition on two hard disks
Date: 14 Jun 1995 16:20:18 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center
Message-ID: <3rn282$1une@news.cuny.edu>
I still have a couple of question on partition with two hard disks.
I have DOS and NextStep 3.3 residing on 1GB hard disk inside
Pentium machine, and plan to add another Quantum's 730MB hard disk for
installing Solaris 2.4 x86. That is three partitions on two disks: DOS and
NextStep partitions on first hard disk and Solaris 2.4 x86 on second hard
disk. Both Solaris 2.4 and NextStep 3.3 have a multiple-partition boot
feature. I will like to do following procedure for partition. Please
correct it if you disagree with it.
OPTION 1:
step 1. Setup the second hard disk physically.
step 2. From NextStep, run fdisk to find out information about the
second disk.
step 3. From NextStep, run fdisk to create a partition table on the
second disk.
step 4. Install Solaris onto the second hard disk.
step 5. From NextStep's fdisk, mark second hard disk as active partition
disk. Thus second hard disk became a bootable disk and Solaris
is the active partition. Booting system will goes to Solaris'
menu that enables me to choose which primary partition is used
for the current session.
OPTION 2:
step 1. set up second hard disk physically.
step 2. install Solaris 2.4 x86 from CD onto second hard disk.
step 3. From NextStep's fdisk, disable NextStep as active
partition.
step 4. From Solaris' fdisk, mark Solaris as active disk.
step 5. From BIOS setup program, switch first disk's SCSI ID with
second disk (or just leave it). Thus Solaris will be an
active partition and will be load first while system is
booted.
Please give me any suggestion on above assuming procedure. I
really appreciate your help.
Hong
vhong@puma.cs.qc.edu
From: lsumi@swisslink.alphanet.ch (Lionel Sumi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) Viewer?
Date: 12 Jun 1995 11:04:33 GMT
Message-ID: <2154758142.186729056@swisslink.alphanet.ch>
Organization: SwissLink Information Services
Does such an animal exist for NS? Mail to me at pohl@acton.com if
you can reference one.
You can use NeXTIMe to view the Acrobat .pdf files, but I don't heard from
anyone for a writing version on NeXTstep.
From: hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: asWedit 1.1 - HTML 3, 2 & text editor for X/Motif
Date: 14 Jun 1995 12:23:16 +0200
Organization: The Home Of The Pilhuhn
Message-ID: <3rmdak$hk7@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.de>
References: <950605144207.747AAEgH.cikan@anne> <D9x5MC.Ht@ex-nihilo.com>
dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes:
>> asWedit HTML 3 and HTML 2 editor Version 1.1 (English Release)
>Note that you NEED the X/Motif libs (I guess from a program like CubX) for this to work.
Huh? At least with MouseX it works ..
>Too bad the author didn't make this a native NS app. Oh well...
Well ...
I tried it and at least for html-V2 using vi is easier ...
--
Heiko W.Rupp Gerwigstr.5 D-76131 Karlsruhe +49 721 9661521
Q: What do you call a hacker who collects coins?
A: A gnumismatist.
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs for NS 4.1 doesn't handle the backspace key?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 12:32:28 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <3rmdrs$rta@gandalf.ifi.uio.no>
References: <3rd5ob$c0m@gymir.ifi.uio.no> <3rf81v$3i@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
<3rhsr8$qaa@gymir.ifi.uio.no> <3rk8lj$lun@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
In-reply-to: cedman@freedom.princeton.edu's message of 13 Jun 1995 14:51:31 GMT
>>>>> "Carl" == Carl Edman <cedman@freedom.princeton.edu> writes:
Carl> In article <3rhsr8$qaa@gymir.ifi.uio.no>, Arne Christian Hĺrseth
Carl> <arneha@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>> OK, but I have one backspace-key and one delete-key on my
>> PC-keyboard, and I want backsapce to delete backward and delete to
>> delete forward as I could in the previous version of Emacs.app and
>> as I can in the standard X version of Emacs. I don't want to be
>> forced to press SHIFT to get the backspace-function.
Carl> Aha ! Now I think I understand what you mean. The second key you
Carl> mean is I believe called kp-delete and you should be able to
Carl> rebind it independently.
Now we are getting closer! I am sorry I have explained the problem so
clumsy.
NO, it is not the kp-delete key! On PC-keyboards there is a keypad
between the numeric (kp) keypad and the alpha keypad where this delete
key is placed. On a WS with PC-keyboard and running standard Emacs for
X this key produces the event "delete" while the backspace key (top
right on the alpha-keypad) produces the event "backspace", but in
Emacs.app 4.1 they both produce the event "delete".
Carl> ...
Carl> If two different keys generate the same event (shouldn't
Carl> happen)...
Well, they have. Is this only a problem on my WS? How do I make them
produce different events? I will copy this posting to the mailinglist
<emacs-for-ns-users@lists.princeton.edu> so we can continue the
discussion there.
Arne
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Email: arneha@ifi.uio.no
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: ARP...
In-Reply-To: chuck@racine's message of 14 Jun 1995 15:29:24 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun14142746@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <DA4G7p.HK1@sed.stel.com> <3rmv8k$mli@www.its.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 18:27:46 GMT
Actually, you should NOT edit /etc/rc. Just edit /etc/hostconfig and
change NETMASTER to YES. The only function of NETMASTER is to run
bootpd. You should never need to make custom changes to /etc/rc. Any
additions can be made to /etc/rc.local.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: kris@xmission.xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF conversion software?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 17:10:46 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rn56m$h4e@news.xmission.com>
References: <3rkplj$rmm@shelob.afs.com>
Michael Pizolato (michael@afs.com) wrote:
: Is there software that runs on NEXTSTEP that will do _bulk_ converion
: of TIFF files to GIF (or JPEG, BMP, or any format that has exactly
: one standard)? NeXT apparently has some of it's own extensions to
: the TIFF format that keep my Windoze apps from reading some TIFFs
: that originated on NS.
: I know TIFFany saves to JPEG, but I have a lot of tiffs to convert.
: And please don't flame me about Windoze, it's not a matter of choice
: in this case. :-)
: Thanx,
: Michael
: --
: Michael Pizolato, CTO
: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
A beta version of GraphicsWorkshop.app that I'm using does exactly this,
and does it nicely.
.....................kris
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From: peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any luck running Jessycad?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 23:03:09 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Message-ID: <3rnprd$ja6@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
I have renamed all French resources to English, but I still cannot get the software to start.
It complains about two missing files (sorry, can't remember the name off hand).
Has anyone succeeded in running the program?
--
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From: Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where to find appsoft image and appsoft draw?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 19:08:52 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rnc44$79o@news.next.com>
References: <3rhkfr$n0l@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3rhkfr$n0l@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
Anderson) writes:
> AppSoft is out of business, and I don't think either of those products
> survived. They only seemed impressive on the surface anyway, from what I
> could see and what I was told by PasteUp customers who tried to use them.
> Survival of the fittest...
I used to do some support for a small technical illustration house in
Pasadena, CA, that is still using TopDraw on Cubes. Why? It has tools no
other drawing package they've ever seen has.
If anyone is considering writing (or already sells) a drawing package, get in
touch with me and I'll put you in toch with them. They'd LOVE to move to
faster hardware but can't, since TopDraw only runs on Black.
They'd make a *killer* reference account - they're very high-profile in the
technical illustration (mostly aerospace) industry.
- Mark
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From: Jerry Carson <jcarson@mcgh.org>
Message-ID: <9506141705.AA09716@mcgh.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 13:05:10 -0400
Subject: Scheduling Software needed
An doctor's office I'm consulting for has need of a scheduling
system. It would need to track appointments, reasons for the
appointments, and if the patient showed or not. If you have, or know
of, such a system please contact me at:
jcarson@mcgh.org or
jcarson@ic.net
Jerry Carson
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF conversion software?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 19:39:18 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
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References: <3rkplj$rmm@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3rkplj$rmm@shelob.afs.com> Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com>
writes:
> Is there software that runs on NEXTSTEP that will do _bulk_ converion
> of TIFF files to GIF (or JPEG, BMP, or any format that has exactly
> one standard)? NeXT apparently has some of it's own extensions to
> the TIFF format that keep my Windoze apps from reading some TIFFs
> that originated on NS.
>
> I know TIFFany saves to JPEG, but I have a lot of tiffs to convert.
> And please don't flame me about Windoze, it's not a matter of choice
> in this case. :-)
>
> Thanx,
> Michael
>
> --
> Michael Pizolato, CTO
> Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
You could try ImageConverter.app in
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/graphics
..Mike.
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From: <vincent@hal.imaginet.fr>
Message-ID: <199506141234.OAA16407@hal.imaginet.fr>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 14:22:40 +0100
Subject: Trouble with FrameMaker on HP712
Hello all,
Every day i have trouble with FrameMaker on NeXTSTEP 3.2 HP712. I
get lost and come back again to login panel.
Tanks for HELP !!!
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From: lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Where to find appsoft image and appsoft draw?
Message-ID: <DA6JBw.5zn@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3rhkfr$n0l@shelob.afs.com> <3rnc44$79o@news.next.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 20:23:56 GMT
In article <3rnc44$79o@news.next.com>,
Mark Dadgar <Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM> wrote:
>In article <3rhkfr$n0l@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H.
>Anderson) writes:
>> AppSoft is out of business, and I don't think either of those products
>> survived. They only seemed impressive on the surface anyway, from what I
>> could see and what I was told by PasteUp customers who tried to use them.
>> Survival of the fittest...
>
>I used to do some support for a small technical illustration house in
>Pasadena, CA, that is still using TopDraw on Cubes. Why? It has tools no
>other drawing package they've ever seen has.
I would _love_ to see TopDraw revived, this is still my favorite NS
drawing app, a copy which ran on the new architectures would be great.
My understanding was that AppSoft bought TopDraw from Media Logic, and
then overhauled it into AppSoft Draw. Anyone know what happened to the
code for either program? It would be cool if the original TopDraw was
rereleased for NS.
It's too bad when decent programs end up in the bit bucket...
--
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From: pbuckley@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: voice/data/fax modems
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 20:29:28 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <pS78lXw.pbuckley@delphi.com>
Is JollysZyxelFax the same as the old "am" answering machine/fax software?
Are Zyxel's the only modem to recognize a voice call?
What modems does Nextstep work with natively (ie. without NXFax, since NXFax
does not support voice discrimination)?
-Paul Buckley
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anybody using am1.16 with Zyxel?
Date: 15 Jun 1995 00:49:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3ro03i$p3s@news.service.uci.edu>
I just got a ZyXel 1496E and would like to use it with my Nextstation
as an answering machine and to receive fax. Has anybody any experience in
setting it up and using it?
Is am1.16 the lastest version?
Does it work with NXFax(I understand am1.16 can only recieve fax).
Any help or pointer are appreciated.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-824-3105 Fax: 714-824-8585
From: thunder@dnai.com (Chett Salzman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: For Sale: Next OS 3.1 and 3.2 for intel on CDROM
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:54:19 +1000
Organization: Computer Service Group
Message-ID: <thunder.38.009980F7@dnai.com>
Next OS 3.1 and 3.2 on CD
Highest bidder takes, or trade for hardware.
thanks
From: mo86@aol.com (Mo86)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: co-Xist 3.2/M Runs on White Dies on Black....
Date: 14 Jun 1995 21:17:53 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3ro1o1$fju@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
I am running Co-Xist 3.2/M on my local NeXT Network (Both Black and
Intel platforms). I have it installed on a Intel Box under LocalApps
and I am trying to run it on a Black Turbo Cube. All of the Intel
boxes ran co-Xist just fine. Unfortunately the Black Boxes were not
as co-operative. I get the following errors. First It starts up the
screen blanks out (I'm in TakeOver) I get the "X" cursor, Then it
dies. I see the following in the console.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
>DEC-XTRAP: AddExtension assigned Major Opcode '132'
>DEC-XTRAP: Vers. 3.3-0 successfully loaded
>XIO: fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server "unix:0.0"
> after 9 requests (8 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or
>KillClient.
------------------------------------------------------------------
After it dies I lose the NeXT cursor. (Getting that back is no
problem) but then if I do a <ps -auw> I see that all the Xterm
processes initiated by the .initrc are stuck in the back ground.
<kill -9> is the only thing that kills them.
Has anyone experienced this problem? Is there a solution?
Pencom is aware and is working on it for me. I was just wondering if some
one else has the same problem and has solved it already.
Thanks for any help in advance, and If possible please reply by
E-mail/NeXTMail. I don't get here as often as I would like too.
Thank You,
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but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it.
From: Gerald Wildgruber <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Full Text Database for NeXT (awk-Frontend ??)
Date: 16 Jun 1995 04:57:20 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rr2vg$pam@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
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Hello,
I've a typical newby-question about a particular piece of
NeXT Software. What i'm looking for is something like a
full text database, capable to manage larger amounts of
unstructured or only lightly structured texts. Data should be
organized in large files containing separated smaller units of
data (records) and these should be able to be structured by
fields. This apparently seems to be the general structure of
classical database applications, but the letter normally don't
support larger amounts of unstructured text to be the contents of
the fields. The simplest example of what should be possible with
this application is the management of excerpts and notes, each of which
being separated in fields of e.g. author, body of the excerpt, source,
descriptor field etc..Together with this capability of storing the
data, the programm should offer the common retrieval facilities,
that is, pattern matching with regular expressions. Perhaps a
frontend based on the powerful programs of awk, sed or perl would
do the task. In fact the only thing that retains me from simply
using the awk program is the lack of visualization of the texts
being worked on. It would be much nicer to have the retrieval tool
and the possibility of entering, displaying and editing your records
all together in one program. Does anyone know if this presumptous
description matches any existing application ?
Thanks for your answers.
Gerald
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MouseX Clicking Bug
Date: 15 Jun 1995 03:51:42 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3roaoe$aqr@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
References: <3r6g8d$51o@yaler.cs.tcd.ie>
In article <3r6g8d$51o@yaler.cs.tcd.ie> Jonathan.Rice@tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice) writes:
]
]I've been using MouseX for quite a while on an old Cube running NS 3.0. By
]and large, I'm content with it (I mean, hey, it's free!), but I am running
]across a bug quite frequently that is really starting to annoy me.
]Sometimes when I'm on the X screen and use the Command or Control key
]while clicking on the mouse, MouseX seems to get confused and thinks that
]the Command/Control key is still held down. The problem can usually be
]rectified by repeating the same kind of combined click a few times, so I
]wouldn't call the problem serious. But I would like to get rid of it. Is
]it likely to disappear when I upgrade to NS 3.3 (which I hope to do soon)?
]
No, since it has nothing to do with the NeXT OS. And unless somebody else
takes up work on the old 68040 Xnext code, you will always have the same
familiar old problems with the Xnext server. I doubt I will ever do any more
work on it (I'm the one who finished the R5 version back a few years ago).
Go to a commercial release to keep up to date, if you must. :-)
--
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: CERN vs. NCSA ?
References: <3rco8t$1qb@ruby.netrix.net>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:15:53 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jun14.071553.19507@proximus.north.de>
In article <3rco8t$1qb@ruby.netrix.net>,
James R. Pooton <james@netrix.net> wrote:
[...]
>But I was just curious, does the NCSA web server offer anything
>additional that we are missing out on?
The NCSA is faster and offers more features, allowes inline scripting. (That
is <--! #exec your_script -->, which gets included automatically if you
allowed executing cgi scripts.)
Apache (another httpd) is an enhancement of NCSA with even more features,
but with a slight speed penalty. (Yet still faster than CERN, as far as I
know.)
Neither Apache nor NCSA httpd can do caching, you need harvest or any other
object cache for caching. (Which makes sense, as you can distribute caching
and serving over two machines then...)
>Also, we are using getstats to create statistics pages in html.
Have not heared of that one. What does it do and where can I get it?
[...]
Gerhard.
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From: cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
Subject: Looking for recursive ftp client under NS3.2
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
Message-ID: <DA7116.o4p@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 02:46:18 GMT
Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it.
I need to mirror an ftp site, and am looking for a good piece of software to
do this. Basically, I need something that I can say to, "go copy this" and
it will, and I don't have to do much.
If you know of an ftp client that will recursively get (and make on the
client's side) directories and the files in them, please tell me.
I know that the new ncftp (version 2.+) will do this, but I can't get it to
compile. Before I hack on it to get it to compile too much more, I was
wondering if anyone out there had it.
Alternately, if anyone can get ncurses compiled (I tried the 1.8.0 version,
and that didn't seem to work) on NS 3.2, that'd probably do it for me.
Basically, I need some help. Do you have any? :-)
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From: mickey@va.pubnix.com (Mickey A. Lasky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandra v0.8
Date: 14 Jun 1995 16:47:24 -0400
Organization: Pubnix Access Systems (Virginia)
Message-ID: <3rnhss$kec@pub01.va.pubnix.com>
I've looked on a lot of the NeXT sites for Alexandra v0.8 and can only
find the v0.7 version. Can anyone point me in the correct direction?
------
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ITA Communications mickey@ita.org (NeXTMail welcomed)
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From: Chris Diener <chrisd@campbell.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP 2.2 error: pppd[xxx]: ioctl(TIOCSETD): Not Owner?
Date: 14 Jun 1995 21:50:34 GMT
Organization: Campbell & Company
Message-ID: <3rnlja$96j@alterdial.UU.NET>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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I've installed next-ppp2.2-0.1.9 and i get the following error when
pppd is launced
lavender ppp[205]: ioctl(TIOCSETD): Not Owner
Any Ideas?
--Chris Diener
chrisd@campbell.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC server for NeXT? The "lily" alternative
Date: 14 Jun 1995 21:12:10 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rnjba$ge1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3rl4ce$7v0@spot.YKnet.yk.ca>
richardw@rover.yknet.yk.ca (Richard Whittaker) writes:
> Greetings again from the Yukon!.
>
> Does anyone out there have an IRC server sucessfully compiled/modified
> for NeXTStep 3.3?.. We would like to offer IRC (and possibly MUD)
> services to our user base..
Instead of using IRC, you might want to check out something called
"lily". It's a CMC implemented on top of the LambdaMOO written by
Pavel Curtis at Xerox. Depending on your goals with a CMC, you
might like it a whole lot more than IRC. Me, I can't stand IRC.
[for those people lost in TLA's:
IRC = Internet Relay Chat
CMC = Computer Mediated Communication (server/program)
MOO = MUD, Object-Oriented
MUD = Multi-User Dungeon <- original meaning.
TLA = Three letter acronym
]
Right now the largest lily server is running on a NeXTstation,
under NeXTSTEP 3.2. I expect it'd be no trouble to run it under
NS-3.3, and I imagine running it under other NeXTSTEP platforms
wouldn't be a problem either. LambdaMOO is a C program written by
Pascal, while lily is a database (written by several RPI alumni)
for that MOO which implements a chat & discussion service. It
includes some support for moderated discussions. There's also some
hooks for adding games.
The one catch for those wanting to run the server under NeXTSTEP
is that the moo stumbles over a VM-related problem with the Mach
kernel in NeXTSTEP. Depending on how large your lily userbase is,
and how much RAM you have on your NeXT machine, you might find
yourself with an ever-expanding swapfile situation. You can buy
your way out of it by getting more RAM, and we're looking into
changes to the LambdaMOO program that *might* sidestep this problem.
The lily userbase on eclipse is a few hundred users, which is enough
that I'm seeing the problem. Time to buy more RAM I guess...
The server will run on other (non-NeXTSTEP) platforms too. For
clients, people can use just plain telnet (which is pretty lame)
or an emacs mode (one written for moo/lily), or a special lily
client that they call "lclient". lclient is available for several
platforms too.
People interested in more details about lily could check at:
http://www.lily.org/
That will include pointers to server and client information.
I imagine there's IRC servers for NeXTSTEP too, I just have
no interest in them (even though RPI used to run one of the
first IRC servers).
Capitalization cops note: "lily" (this service) is defined as
always being all lowercase. This is why I avoid using it as
the first word of a sentence...
--
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From: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Where to find a good 'top' for NSFIP?
Message-ID: <DA72p3.G1I@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 03:22:15 GMT
Can anybody point me to an FTP'able version of 'top' that runs under
NEXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel processors?
--
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From: Simon Chih-L Han <idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: (no subject)
Date: 15 Jun 1995 13:32:58 GMT
Organization: Cardiovascular Division, NDMC
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Dear NeXT Expert,
I have successfully installed satan and got it to work on a text-based
lynx interface. However I tried hard, I can't get satan to work
properly. I get " hypertext file not available at this time" on choosing
some items on the satan control panel.
What should I do to solve this problem?
Thank you for your assistance in advance.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mmoreton@madge1.madge.co.uk (Mike Moreton)
Subject: Re: SoftPC Window Enlargement?
Organization: Madge Networks
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:28:13 GMT
Message-ID: <DA80B2.2M4@madge1.madge.co.uk>
References: <liztaff.7.2FDAF26F@cts.com> <DA0MJK.n0t@isltd.insignia.com> <3rmsoi$l57@clark.net>
m skopinski (mskopin@clark.net) wrote:
: The Intel full screen does have a slight bug in that it reorganizes the
: characters on the scree so that the image is disernable. What you have
: to do is clear the screen and redo any DOS command that you have done.
: If, however, you are using a Windows app, you will be prompeted that you
: must run in full screen mode and the image is not distorted.
Not quite actually!
If you have a non-supported video card, there is a good chance that it'll
run, but one of the side effects may be that described - that when you're
displaying DOS text, and you switch from "in a window" to "full screen"
you may get the text double or half spaced.
(Supported by SoftPC that is).
The prompting to change to full screen happens when the software attempts
to change the display into a VGA mode. This can happen if you run a DOS
app that uses VGA, or if you run Windows in full-screen (i.e. VGA) mode.
A single Windows app won't cause it to happen. Either you start in full
screen mode (in which case you're already full screen by the time you run the
app), or in a window, in which case new Windows apps appear in a window
within the SoftPC window, and not full-screen.
Mike.
--
Throw some bread to the ducks instead, it's easier that way.
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTIME App
Date: 15 Jun 1995 15:53:46 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3rpl2a$fd8@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3rl1v2$opi@hermes.dna.mci.com>
In article <3rl1v2$opi@hermes.dna.mci.com> 0006154763@mcimail.com writes:
> I am under the impression the movie viewer, NEXTIME.APP, does not ship
> with any current versions of NeXTSTEP. Where can it be retrieved, or
> purchased, then? Is NEXT keeping it current? What is the latest
version?
NEXTIME 1.0 is available through OpenSource.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there software for the HP Scanjet 3C
Date: 15 Jun 1995 16:01:00 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3rplfs$fdu@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <DA28qG.3JA@AWT.NL>
In article <DA28qG.3JA@AWT.NL> G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
writes:
> Hello, World!
>
> I am looking for a way to use a HP Scanjet 3c scanner under
> NEXTSTEP 3.3/i486 or a way to get to that scanner through SoftPC 4.0 on
that
> system (fat chance...).
>
> Does anybody know a way.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --Gerben
ScanTastic by Second Glance promises HP IIIc support by month's end.
--
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<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where to find appsoft image and appsoft draw?
Date: 15 Jun 1995 16:40:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rpnpc$68a@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <DA6JBw.5zn@world.std.com>
In article <DA6JBw.5zn@world.std.com> lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher Lloyd) writes:
>In article <3rnc44$79o@news.next.com>,
>Mark Dadgar <Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM> wrote:
>>
>>I used to do some support for a small technical illustration house in
>>Pasadena, CA, that is still using TopDraw on Cubes. Why? It has tools no
>>other drawing package they've ever seen has.
>
>I would _love_ to see TopDraw revived, this is still my favorite NS
>drawing app, a copy which ran on the new architectures would be great.
>
>My understanding was that AppSoft bought TopDraw from Media Logic, and
>then overhauled it into AppSoft Draw. Anyone know what happened to the
>code for either program? It would be cool if the original TopDraw was
>rereleased for NS.
Exactly the same sentiment here. We still use TopDraw. And that is
despite we have purchased and tried Virtuoso, AppsoftDraw, and
on Windoze CorelDraw, Freehand.
I've tried hard to get used to Virtuoso, but I can't help myself
gyrating back to TopDraw 1.0.
It used to have a lot of problems when NS was buggy in 1.0 days, but
TopDraw has become very robust without any app updates as NS bugs
have been exterminated. It just shows how good the people were
at MediaLogic.
--
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USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails OK)
From: Terry Moore <tmoore@utkux1>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GatorFTP Quad Fat?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 13:04:47 -0400
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950615130115.22295A-100000@utkux1>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
NS is running fine on this Sparc 5, but I really miss not having Gator
FTP. Anyone know if there's a quad fat version available (I've looked at
the standard FTP sites), when a new compile will make it available, or
if I can get the source to compile it myself? Thanks in advance.
Terry Moore
University of Tennessee, Knoxville
terry-moore@utk.edu
From: brian@moo-kea (Brian Griswold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: E-mail Autoresponder for NS?
Date: 15 Jun 1995 20:05:09 GMT
Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center (MRTC)
Message-ID: <3rq3pl$mjl@kahu.mrtc.maui.com>
References: <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net> <3qvtsv$moh@news.next.com>
Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar) wrote:
>In article <3qo3vm$bpt@ruby.netrix.net> james@emerald.netrix.net
(James R.
>Pooton) writes:
>> Is anyone out there using any e-mail autoresponder software under
>> NeXTstep? (basically I want to automatically send a piece of mail
back to
>> anyone sending a piece of e-mail to foo@netrix.net)
>>
>> Any help, pointers, or compined binaries :-) would be great !!
>There's a commercial package to do this as well, called MailBack. I
have a
>demo I snarfed off the company's server. However, I can't remember
the name
>of the company or the server address. :)
>Can anyone else help?
>(I added a cross-post to comp.sys.next.software)
>- Mark
>--
>Mark Dadgar | If we had thought something this big was
>Network/Systems Admin. | going to happen to us, do you think we would
>NeXT Computer, Inc. | have called ourselves TOAD THE WET
SPROCKET?!
>Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM | - Toad the Wet Sprocket
> Here I am, NOT speaking for NeXT.
Dancing Bear Enterprises developed and sells MAILBACK.
You can get more information by sending an email message to
mailback@dancingbear.com with a subject of mailback.
Information is also available from our WWW server at:
http://www.dancingbear.com
Anyone can download a demo of the latest version from
ftp://ftp.maui.com/pub/dancingbear/demos/MAiLBACK.tar.gz
Requests for a demo copy of MAiLBACK can also be sent to:
demos@dancingbear.com.
For users without NeXTmail or FTP access, a demo floppy with of
MAiLBACK can be requested by calling 1-808-874-3650 or by fax at
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Please note, there is a charge of $5 for shipping and handling for the
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From: seanl@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: MPEG sound player
Date: 15 Jun 1995 19:50:24 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3rq2u1$c1r@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Does anyone know of a NS app that will read MPEG sound files?
I'm not interested in MPEG video, just the sound files. Source
code would be great too--I might even include it in a new version
of Resound.
Sean Luke U Maryland at College Park
seanl@cs.umd.edu Today's Chemical: Aluminum Zirconium Tetrachlorohydrex GLY
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Make Edit.app Display White-on-Black?
Date: 15 Jun 1995 16:41:31 GMT
Message-ID: <3rpnrr$c3g@aragorn.unibe.ch>
References: <RDL.95Jun12135911@world.std.com>
When -=EPS=- was still posting to this newsgroups he once gave a hack answer to
this question. Yet I can't find his anser any more. There is certainly no easy
way.
--
Moritz Willers
Institute of Theoretical Physics
Sidlerstrasse 5
3012 Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail, MIME)
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb, WWW, and mpeg
Date: 15 Jun 1995 15:06:35 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3rpi9r$9t2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Can anyone play mpeg animations from OmniWeb (1.0)?
There's a neat little animation, chaos.mpg, at
http://www-i.almaden.ibm.com/vis/mpeg.html
but when I select it, OmniWeb saves it as chaos.mpeg, and the Workspace
opens it as a text file. Movie.app registers the .mpg extension, but not
mpeg. Since the file originally had a .mpg extension, I'm mystified
as to how it got changed to .mpeg. Is this a problem with OmniWeb or
with the server? [Of course, I can change the extension and play it
from the WS.]
On the subject of mpeg, is there a compiled (Moto) version of an mpeg encoder
available anywhere on the net? I haven't found one in any of the usual
places.
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail
OK)
Psychology Department
York University Voice: 416 736-5118
4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html
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From: Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: RARP...
Date: 15 Jun 1995 23:39:50 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rqgc6$gjk@news.next.com>
References: <DA4G7p.HK1@sed.stel.com>
In article <DA4G7p.HK1@sed.stel.com> laz@curly.sed.stel.com (John Lazorisak)
writes:
>
> Does anyone know how to get intel based NS to provide
> RARP services?
Unfortunately, we do not support RARP on NEXTSTEP.
> I have a diskless Sun 3/60 which gets its ip via RARP and
> I was hoping that I could get my NS box to do this...
>
If you have another Sun lying around, that's what I'd use (and, in fact, it's
what we use).
- Mark
--
Mark Dadgar | "If English was good enough for Jesus
Network/Systems Admin. | Christ, then it's good enough for me."
NeXT Computer, Inc. | - Arkansas congressman to Joint
Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM | National Committee on Language
Here I am, NOT speaking for NeXT.
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb, WWW, and mpeg
Date: 16 Jun 1995 00:12:19 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3rqi93$850@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <3rpi9r$9t2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
It's a problem with Movie.app fixed in a later release. The one I have,
2.51.2, accepts mpg and mpeg and so works with OmniWeb properly.
Also Xanthus has a free application called AppIcons which lets you edit
what extensions an application recognizes. It's hidden in their
OpenWrite extras package.
mark
From: majka@next.com (Marc Majka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: RARP...
Date: 16 Jun 1995 00:17:21 GMT
Organization: NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3rqiih$gos@news.next.com>
References: <3rqgc6$gjk@news.next.com>
Mark Dadgar writes
> Unfortunately, we do not support RARP on NEXTSTEP.
RARP is supported on NEXTSTEP 3.3 for SPARC systems.
--
Marc Majka
From: Dayne Miller <dayne@spry.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 16 Jun 1995 01:59:39 GMT
Organization: InterServ News Service
Message-ID: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net>
Well, how about it? What would everyone like to see as UI improvements? NS is slick, but the Mac
interface and even Win 95 (yes, you read that right) beat it in some areas. How would you improve it?
Respond by e-mail and I'll post a summary in a week or so...
My personal first choices:
1) Drag and drop between all windows.
2) Keyboard access to menu bars.
3) Keyboard means to swich between active windows and applications.
4) Some way to manipulate the mouse with the keyboard arrows if necessary.
5) ???.....
Dayne Miller
dayne@spry.com
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
In-Reply-To: Dayne Miller's message of 16 Jun 1995 01:59:39 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun15235702@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 03:57:02 GMT
4) Some way to manipulate the mouse with the keyboard arrows if necessary.
Every client that I've been to has asked for this...
Robert
From: bwarsaw@cnri.reston.va.us (Barry A. Warsaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP Quad Fat?
Date: 15 Jun 1995 19:21:51 GMT
Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives
Message-ID: <3rq1ku$pft@news.CNRI.Reston.Va.US>
References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950615130115.22295A-100000@utkux1>
To: terry-moore@utk.edu
In-reply-to: Terry Moore's message of Thu, 15 Jun 1995 13:04:47 -0400
>>>>> "TM" == Terry Moore <tmoore@utkux1> writes:
TM> NS is running fine on this Sparc 5, but I really miss not
TM> having Gator FTP. Anyone know if there's a quad fat version
TM> available (I've looked at the standard FTP sites), when a new
TM> compile will make it available, or if I can get the source to
TM> compile it myself? Thanks in advance.
Hmm, I picked up version 1.8, probably from orst, but I don't exactly
remember. It's quad-fat and works just fine on my Sparc 5.
-Barry
From: sybil@best.com (Sybil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing NEXTSTEP
Date: 16 Jun 1995 04:56:49 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications, Inc. (info@best.com)
Message-ID: <3rr2uh$m38@news1.best.com>
The install manual for v 3.2 say that you can install NEXTSTEP using
SCSI adapter controller whose device driver is not included with NEXTSTEP.
So where can I find a diskette with a Future Domain 1680 driver ?
Also where can I find a #9 771 video driver.
Thanks for any help you can give.
Sybil
From: kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 16 Jun 1995 06:20:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net>
In <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> Dayne Miller <dayne@spry.com>
writes:
>
>Well, how about it? What would everyone like to see as UI
improvements? NS is slick, but the Mac
>interface and even Win 95 (yes, you read that right) beat it in some
areas. How would you improve it?
>Respond by e-mail and I'll post a summary in a week or so...
>
>My personal first choices:
>
>1) Drag and drop between all windows.
>
>2) Keyboard access to menu bars.
>
>3) Keyboard means to swich between active windows and applications.
>
>4) Some way to manipulate the mouse with the keyboard arrows if
necessary.
>
5) How about resizing the window ? You don't need to go only to the
bottom of to window to resize.
6) Maximize the window, with one click.
Kurniawan
From: reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandra 0.8 binary m68k?
Date: 16 Jun 1995 00:29:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@phakt.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3rrbs6$roi@phakt.usc.edu>
Summary: Would someone be willing to nextmail me a compiled version?
I cannot compile on my Turbo m68k NS v.3.3 but I would really like a compiled version of the latest release of Alexandra.
I'd be eternally (almost) grateful.
Matthew
reichman@scf.usc.edu
--
"Show disorder to make them take a chance" -- Sun Tzu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: a00500@cc.hc.keio.ac.jp (Kenichiro AOKI)
Subject: Re: freeware Fax software ?
In-Reply-To: rbz@eversoft.com's message of 12 Jun 1995 03:04:49 GMT
Message-ID: <A00500.95Jun16165219@zetton.cc.hc.keio.ac.jp>
Sender: news@sfc.keio.ac.jp
Organization: Keio University, Hiyoshi Campus, Yokohama, JAPAN.
References: <3rdo4f$me7@News1.mcs.com> <3rgash$1cq@feenix.metronet.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 07:52:18 GMT
>>>>> "rbz" == rbz <rbz@eversoft.com> writes:
rbz> tmeyer@mcs.com wrote:
...
>> 2) Is there any other fax software available on the net ?
rbz> I think there is some software that works with Zyxel
rbz> modems, but I don't recall where.
am works with ZyXEL's. It can send faxes, receive faxes, deal
with data and voice. Can also act as an answering machine. (what
does am stand for? :-> ) It is on the standard archives. The
German peanuts archive probably has the most recent copy.
I have taken the previous version (without fax sending
capabilities) for a spin. It compiled without a hitch, worked
flawlessly. A job very well done. I am sure the fax sending
works perfectly too.
Before I forget, it's sleepware. (you are asked to provide
the program writer a bed for a nite, if he happens to be in
town.) hope this helps.
--
Kenichiro Aoki ŔÄĚÚ ˇň°ěĎş
Dept. of Physics, Hiyoshi Campus, Keio University, Yokohama, 223 JAPAN.
223 żŔĆŕŔ˛ŁÉÍťÔšÁËĚśčĆüľČ 4-1-1 ˇÄŘćľÁ˝ÎÂçłŘ ĆüľČĘŞÍýłŘśľźź
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Where to find PiXel?
Message-ID: <DA6AxC.Bo@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:22:24 GMT
Hi,
I ve heard about PiXel - can anybody tell me, where this app could be
found?
thanks
Manfred
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FAX: +49 431 733 483
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From: jreiss@discus.ise.vt.edu (Joe Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 16 Jun 1995 16:17:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <3rsaps$6b6@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <3rs2eh$bdt@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Jon Haveman (jon@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu) wrote:
>kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa) wrote:
>> 6) Maximize the window, with one click.
>I can't really see why one would want this unless they were
>working on a laptop or a PC with less than 17" of real estate.
>I have never ever made a window the size of my 17" NeXT
>monitor.
Well, I can see maybe vertical maximization. I've got two big
barndoor windows on my screen most of the time (Emacs and Stuart).
Omniweb is the same way when I run it. But complete
maximization... no. And I don't even know that vertical maximizing
would be all that useful.
My request... A float toggle button, like that found in TIFFany, for
those windows created as floating. Don't know how often those buggers
get in the way of what I'm REALLY trying to do, and I just want to
push them back out of the way.
Oh, and how about including an improved dock/shelf/etc like Fiend?
Joe
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From: jon@intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 16 Jun 1995 13:54:25 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3rs2eh$bdt@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa) wrote:
> 6) Maximize the window, with one click.
I can't really see why one would want this unless they were
working on a laptop or a PC with less than 17" of real estate.
I have never ever made a window the size of my 17" NeXT
monitor.
Somebody elsewhere mentioned adding something akin to
NetSurfer's multi tab shelf. This would be really cool!
From: tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra v0.8
Date: 16 Jun 1995 16:45:15 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Salzburg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rscer$rnq@esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at>
References: <3rnhss$kec@pub01.va.pubnix.com>
Mickey A. Lasky (mickey@va.pubnix.com) wrote:
/ I've looked on a lot of the NeXT sites for Alexandra v0.8 and can only
/ find the v0.7 version. Can anyone point me in the correct direction?
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/Alexandra.0.8a.NIHS.b.tar.gz
--
Martin Michlmayr | tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at | tbm@gnu.ai.mit.edu
GNUStep Volunteer Coordinator, http://fvkma.tu-graz.ac.at/gnustep/index.html
From: jolly@hook (Jolly alias Patrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP Quad Fat?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 10:16:18 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3rua1i$mh3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950615130115.22295A-100000@utkux1>
Terry Moore <tmoore@utkux1> wrote:
> NS is running fine on this Sparc 5, but I really miss not having Gator
> FTP. Anyone know if there's a quad fat version available (I've looked at
> the standard FTP sites), when a new compile will make it available, or
> if I can get the source to compile it myself? Thanks in advance.
Use Yftp it's on ftp.leo.org:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/programs,
it's better anyway ( IMhO ).
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Say it fast: " There she stood on the balcony,
explicably mimicking him hickuping,
while amigably welcoming him in. "
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office : ++49 +89 -211 06 70 Centrum fuer Informations
private: ++49 +89 -950 57 34 und Sprachverarbeitung der
Ludwig-Maximilians Universitaet Muenchen
===================================================================
Say it fast: " There she stood on the balcony,
explicably mimicking him hickuping,
while amigably welcoming him in. "
===================================================================
From: jolly@hook (Jolly alias Patrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: freeware Fax software ?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 10:22:34 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3ruada$mh3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <3rdo4f$me7@News1.mcs.com> <3rgash$1cq@feenix.metronet.com> <A00500.95Jun16165219@zetton.cc.hc.keio.ac.jp>
a00500@cc.hc.keio.ac.jp (Kenichiro AOKI) wrote:
> >>>>> "rbz" == rbz <rbz@eversoft.com> writes:
> rbz> tmeyer@mcs.com wrote:
> ...
> >> 2) Is there any other fax software available on the net ?
> rbz> I think there is some software that works with Zyxel
> rbz> modems, but I don't recall where.
> am works with ZyXEL's. It can send faxes, receive faxes, deal
> with data and voice. Can also act as an answering machine. (what
> does am stand for? :-> ) It is on the standard archives. The
> German peanuts archive probably has the most recent copy.
> I have taken the previous version (without fax sending
> capabilities) for a spin. It compiled without a hitch, worked
> flawlessly. A job very well done. I am sure the fax sending
> works perfectly too.
> Before I forget, it's sleepware. (you are asked to provide
> the program writer a bed for a nite, if he happens to be in
> town.) hope this helps.
am - stands for 'answering machine' and won't send faxes.
But It works flawlessly with JollysZyXEL faxdriver ( shareware ).
Latest copies can be obtained via
ftp.leo.org:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs/am.1...
ftp.leo.org:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/fax/Jollys{ZyXEL|Class2|Class2.0}FaxDriver...
---
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===================================================================
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office : ++49 +89 -211 06 70 Centrum fuer Informations
private: ++49 +89 -950 57 34 und Sprachverarbeitung der
Ludwig-Maximilians Universitaet Muenchen
===================================================================
Say it fast: " There she stood on the balcony,
explicably mimicking him hickuping,
while amigably welcoming him in. "
===================================================================
--
gimme a smile :) - jolly
===================================================================
Jolly alias Patrick Stein jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de
office : ++49 +89 -211 06 70 Centrum fuer Informations
private: ++49 +89 -950 57 34 und Sprachverarbeitung der
Ludwig-Maximilians Universitaet Muenchen
===================================================================
Say it fast: " There she stood on the balcony,
explicably mimicking him hickuping,
while amigably welcoming him in. "
===================================================================
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra v0.8
Date: 16 Jun 1995 13:56:03 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3rs2hj$2dm@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3rnhss$kec@pub01.va.pubnix.com>
In article <3rnhss$kec@pub01.va.pubnix.com> mickey@va.pubnix.com (Mickey A.
Lasky) writes:
> I've looked on a lot of the NeXT sites for Alexandra v0.8 and can only
> find the v0.7 version. Can anyone point me in the correct direction?
>
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/Network/News
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: bright@ingenia.com (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Message-ID: <DA9sw4.9vK@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 14:43:16 GMT
Dayne Miller (dayne@spry.com) wrote:
: Well, how about it? What would everyone like to see as UI improvements? NS
:is slick, but the Mac
: interface and even Win 95 (yes, you read that right) beat it in some areas.
: How would you improve it?
Do something about the dock. It's damn handy but needs some
revamping-- how 'bout an API? Those kludgely little dock extenders don't
really count.
My personal desire would be something like the bookmarks window from
OmniWeb- heirarchial and flexible as well as being way easy to use.
later
j
"I don't speak for Ingenia....I can't even do the accent."
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandra and termnet work nce also!
Date: 16 Jun 1995 14:07:40 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3rs37c$2il@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Just to add to the hype: Alexandra also works nicely together with
term (poor man's ppp). All you have to do is to include <termnet.h> in
NNTP.m, and to link against libtermnet.a.
Maybe one should include this in the binary distribution ?
Gregor
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From: tiggr@es.ele.tue.nl (Pieter Schoenmakers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 16 Jun 1995 17:35:12 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <TIGGR.95Jun16193512@cobra.es.ele.tue.nl>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <DA9sw4.9vK@cunews.carleton.ca>
In-reply-to: bright@ingenia.com's message of Fri, 16 Jun 1995 14:43:16 GMT
In article <DA9sw4.9vK@cunews.carleton.ca> bright@ingenia.com (Jason Bright) writes:
Do something about the dock. It's damn handy but needs some
revamping-- how 'bout an API?
As if the workspace protocol (api) is any good: limited, non-orthogonal,
deadlock-prone, etc, etc...
Those kludgely little dock extenders don't really count.
Try `ftp://ftp.es.ele.tue.nl/pub/tiggr/Desktop-0.5.4.ni.b.tar.gz'. It does
not attempt to extend your dock; it provides functionality. --Tiggr
From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where to find PiXel?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 12:24:22 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3ruhhn$f0@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <DA6AxC.Bo@manki.toppoint.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <DA6AxC.Bo@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred
Roehr) writes:
> I ve heard about PiXel - can anybody tell me, where this app could be
> found?
Where else :-)
next/Graphics/bitmap/piXel.1.95.NIHS.tar.gz
next/Graphics/bitmap/piXel.README
on peanuts (ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de).
To look for files on peanuts also use
http://www.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/cgi-bin/peanuts-search.html (German)
or
http://www.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/cgi-bin/peanuts-search-e.html (English)
Robert.
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From: Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Engage! Desktop Users
Date: 16 Jun 1995 18:37:01 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <3rsj0d$u8@news.nd.edu>
References: <D9tJ2p.4F3@eskimo.com> <jpanicoDA3x4u.1u3@netcom.com>
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>After VirtSpace, is my favorite NeXT app of all time. I find
>Engage to be indispensable. I'm not familiar with the monster bookshelf,
>another product mentioned in this thread, but I should point out that
>Engage does more that just extend the dock. It also replaces the background
>(root window) with a background into which WM icons can be placed (through
>drag and drop). These icons can then be clicked on for fast WM navigation.
>
>Joe Panico
>jpanico@netcom
Hello,
For how much, and from where, did you purchase Engage! ?
And, does it run on the black ?
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Amir
From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Omniweb or WWW through modem?
Date: 16 Jun 1995 17:00:49 -0700
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <3rt5vh$ku8@lanai.cs.ucla.edu>
My NeXTStation resides at home, from which I use good, old-fashioned kermit
to log in and use machines at home. I ftped a demo copy of Omniweb, hoping
there'd be an obvious way to use it from home by going through my school
account, but there wasn't anything obvious. Is there any way to use Omniweb,
or any other graphical WWW program for the NeXT, through a modem, without
using SLIP or PPP? Surely there are a lot of people in my situation (which
doesn't, of course, mean there's a simple solution...)
Thanks in advance for any info,
- Trent Lange
From: Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 16 Jun 1995 20:28:20 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Message-ID: <3rsph4$u8@news.nd.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
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kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa) wrote:
>In <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> Dayne Miller <dayne@spry.com>
>writes:
>>
>>Well, how about it? What would everyone like to see as UI
>improvements? NS is slick, but the Mac
>>interface and even Win 95 (yes, you read that right) beat it in some
>areas. How would you improve it?
>>Respond by e-mail and I'll post a summary in a week or so...
>>
>>My personal first choices:
>>
>>1) Drag and drop between all windows.
>>
>>2) Keyboard access to menu bars.
>>
>>3) Keyboard means to swich between active windows and applications.
>>
>>4) Some way to manipulate the mouse with the keyboard arrows if
>necessary.
>>
>5) How about resizing the window ? You don't need to go only to the
>bottom of to window to resize.
>
>6) Maximize the window, with one click.
>
>
Hello,
7) Double-click, or select, characters (etc) with one mouse button and
insert them somewhere else with a click of another button. In other words, do
a copy/paste without having to a) go into edit in the menu, b) "copy",
c) choose your insertion place and then d) "paste". Too much hassle for a
copy/paste job. The above desirable feature already works on other, "less
sophisticated", systems ! Why not on NS ?
The best I can get out of the "second" mouse button is the application
menu.
Of course, the above request would not apply to UI alone.
Best Regards,
Amir
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Re: Engage! Desktop Users
Message-ID: <jpanicoDAAps6.2xB@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <D9tJ2p.4F3@eskimo.com> <jpanicoDA3x4u.1u3@netcom.com> <3rsj0d$u8@news.nd.edu>
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 02:33:42 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom9.netcom.com
Amir Sanjari (ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu) wrote:
: Hello,
: For how much, and from where, did you purchase Engage! ?
: And, does it run on the black ?
: Thanks.
: Best Regards,
: Amir
I bought Engage! from Millenium software, the developers of the product.
I think I paid something like $150 for it, but that may have included
a student discount. Check out some of the NS software marketing
CD-ROMS, as they too may included engage!.
Good luck
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 16 Jun 1995 18:24:20 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rt0ak$jsq@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3r0u7i$8uu@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <D9zyBM.1B9@ex-nihilo.com>
dino@ex-nihilo.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes:
>Do yourself a favor and fetch a copy of Netsurfer. You'll be happy to see that someone
>has taken a fresh (and more intuitive) approach to surfing the net than just trying to
>copy Mosaic or Netscape's Navigator.
>Netsurfer can be found at http://www.netsurfer.com/
I just got a copy of it, and I really like it too. It can stand a bit of
improvement in some spots, but overall its lovely. Its multi-tab-shelf and
FTP client are its best features, IMO.
Later, John
From: tyf@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing Mule and Japanese on NeXT
Date: 17 Jun 1995 07:52:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Has anyone successfully installed MULE on a NeXT running X-Window?
I've given up my 3.0J since I need 3.3
Any pointers appreciated. (I think the files on pinoko.berkeley.edu
is a little outdated)
Message-ID: <3ru1ke$59b@agate.berkeley.edu>
Thanks.
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 10:53:30 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel>
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> Well, how about it? What would everyone like to see as UI improvements?
> NS is slick, but the Mac interface and even Win 95 (yes, you read
> that right) beat it in some areas. How would you improve it?
>
> 1) Drag and drop between all windows.
>
This is about as prevalent now as I would wish, using alt-drag from the
miniaturise button in 3.3. To be honest I almost never use it.
> 2) Keyboard access to menu bars.
>
I'm not quite sure what you mean here: most frequently-used commands have
Command-key shortcuts, and you are free to add your own in Preferences.
> 3) Keyboard means to swich between active windows and applications.
>
Command-click on the up- and down-arrow keys to send the current bottom
window to the top and vice-versa. So you still have to click on the Window
to make it Main, but...
Maybe this behaviour should be restricted to Command- and Alt-clicking on
the menu bar, and the Command-arrow functionality should actually bring the
next application to the fore?
> 4) Some way to manipulate the mouse with the keyboard arrows if
> necessary.
>
This might be useful, occasionally.
> Respond by e-mail and I'll post a summary in a week or so...
>
Respond my e-mail to a post on advocacy??!! :-)
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: rkirchne@mathcs.carleton.edu (Roger Kirchner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb or WWW through modem?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 11:06:13 GMT
Organization: Carleton College
Message-ID: <3rucv5$ht9@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu>
References: <3rt5vh$ku8@lanai.cs.ucla.edu>
Trent Lange (lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu) wrote:
: My NeXTStation resides at home, from which I use good, old-fashioned kermit
: to log in and use machines at home. I ftped a demo copy of Omniweb, hoping
: there'd be an obvious way to use it from home by going through my school
: account, but there wasn't anything obvious. Is there any way to use Omniweb,
: or any other graphical WWW program for the NeXT, through a modem, without
: using SLIP or PPP? Surely there are a lot of people in my situation (which
: doesn't, of course, mean there's a simple solution...)
: Thanks in advance for any info,
: - Trent Lange
Why not use lynx from the University of Kansas? Ver 2.4 is the latest,
available from ftp2.cc.ukans.edu in pub/lynx. There are two options
for NeXT:
next -- for NeXT OS
next-ncurses -- for NeXT OS using ncurses package
(Typing 'make' gives these plus about 20 other options.)
Maybe lynx is on one of our archives in a compiled version. If not,
it should be. It's very complete, handling forms, etc.
http://www.cc.ukans.edu points to info.
From: Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 17 Jun 1995 09:04:54 -0400
Organization: Random placement
Sender: jreiss@vt.edu (Joe Reiss)
Message-ID: <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu>
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<3rsph4$u8@news.nd.edu>
In-reply-to: Amir Sanjari's message of 16 Jun 1995 20:28:20 GMT
>7) Double-click, or select, characters (etc) with one mouse button and
>insert them somewhere else with a click of another button. In other words, do
>a copy/paste without having to a) go into edit in the menu, b) "copy",
>c) choose your insertion place and then d) "paste". Too much hassle for a
>copy/paste job. The above desirable feature already works on other, "less
>sophisticated", systems ! Why not on NS ?
Um, just one word, IMHO...
ICK!
I use this kinda system regularly (i.e. X-Windows), and I personally
HATE it. Too easy to clobber something on the pasteboard. Leave the
Cut/Copy/Paste as they are for me.
Joe
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From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb or WWW through modem?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 13:21:11 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <CRATH.95Jun17092111@bcarh20d.bnr.ca>
References: <3rt5vh$ku8@lanai.cs.ucla.edu>
In-reply-to: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu's message of 16 Jun 1995 17:00:49 -0700
You need to run term; a piece of software from the Linix distribution.
This is easy as long as your machine at school is a UNIX machine.
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From: gad@mlor.its.rpi.edu (Garance A Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandria.app
Date: 17 Jun 1995 01:38:47 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3rtbn7$snu@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <DA4G7p.HK1@sed.stel.com> <3rmv8k$mli@www.its.com> <3rn2m3$mli@www.its.com>
chuck@racine.its.com (Chuck Swiger) wrote:
> It looks like Alexandria.app doesn't ensure a FQDN for the "From:"
> header. Let me add a "Reply-to:" field and see whether that will
> help.
From the Known bugs section in the Release Notes:
* If you use nntp1.5.11, don't use the "New Groups"
command (get 1.5.12)
* No domainname is added to your default e-mail address
if no domainname was specified with the unix
"domainname" command. Add a default "From" header
in the preferences panel.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Engage! Desktop Users
In-Reply-To: jpanico@netcom.com's message of Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:29:17 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun17103909@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <D9tJ2p.4F3@eskimo.com> <jpanicoDA3x4u.1u3@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 14:39:09 GMT
Engage! is indeed a good product but Millenium Software is not actively
supporting it. In particular, they have not released a quad-fat version
and they tell me they have no plans to do so.
Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: GatorFTP Quad Fat?
In-Reply-To: jolly@hook's message of 17 Jun 1995 10:16:18 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun17104153@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950615130115.22295A-100000@utkux1>
<3rua1i$mh3@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 14:41:53 GMT
Or if you can shell out $149, get NetSurfer. I was amazed at how good the ftp
GUI was in that product. Unfortunately, they don't seem to offer any
discounts.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NEXTSTEP Consultant / Developer / Trainer
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra 0.8 binary m68k?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 02:33:30 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3rtetq$l5@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3rrbs6$roi@phakt.usc.edu>
reichman@phakt.usc.edu (Matthew Nathaniel Reichman) wrote:
> I cannot compile on my Turbo m68k NS v.3.3 but I would really
> like a compiled version of the latest release of Alexandra.
I've picked up the Alexandra files from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de,
and split the quad-fat binary into separate platforms, and made
them available in:
http://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/apps/Alexandra_f
In there you'll find:
-r--r--r-- 1063 Jun 17 02:11 00_README
-r--r--r-- 431926 Jun 17 01:54 Alexandra-0.8a-H.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 391335 Jun 17 01:55 Alexandra-0.8a-I.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 376543 Jun 17 01:55 Alexandra-0.8a-N.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 406210 Jun 17 01:56 Alexandra-0.8a-S.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 1174273 Jun 17 01:52 Alexandra-0.8a_NIHS.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 403018 Jun 15 06:02 Alexandra-0.8a_src.tar.gz
-r--r--r-- 2159 Jun 15 05:55 Alexandra.0.8.README
I hope this is useful to people.
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From: golden@cady.sscnet.ucla.edu (Miriam Golden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BinHexing on NeXTstation
Date: 15 Jun 1995 17:33:44 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Social Sciences Computing
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3rpqto$fbp@hegel.sscnet.ucla.edu>
Keywords: BinHex, Mac
I am looking for a GUI utility that will quickly and easily BinHex
multiple files on my NeXTstation 3.1 for file transfer to a Mac
environment. I would appreciate any leads. Thanks, Miriam
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____________________________________________________________________
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Professor of Political Science| tel: (310) 206-8166 or 825-4331
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From: kafkouli@fiu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: term+OmniWeb? How?
Date: 17 Jun 1995 16:46:46 GMT
Organization: Florida International University
Message-ID: <3rv0tm$ba8@newshost.fiu.edu>
Originator: kafkouli@solix
Could someone please tell me how to use
term with OmniWeb and a news reader?
I am dialing from home to a Unix machine(Sparc)
with TipTop.
Any help is welcome.
Regards
George Kafkoulis
From: besler@nova.mdd.comm.mot.com (Steve Besler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I've just got 3.3 -- Please help me!
Date: 15 Jun 1995 17:56:54 GMT
Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Seattle, WA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <BESLER.95Jun15105654@nova.mdd.comm.mot.com>
References: <3rkqfo$aa5@mailer.york.ac.uk>
In-reply-to: rog@talisker.ohm.york.ac.uk's message of 13 Jun 1995 19:55:36 GMT
In article <3rkqfo$aa5@mailer.york.ac.uk> rog@talisker.ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe) writes:
> a) where is the documentation for Application ?
> on our installation, the file
> /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/GeneralRef/02_ApplicationKit/Classes/Application.rtf
> has the documentation for ActionCell in it!
I noticed this as well!
--
Steven Besler, Coop Student "I do not speak for Motorola."
Motorola Wireless Data Group
From: brunob@EROS.CCC.uni-erlangen.de (Bruno Bienfait)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Booch diagrams
Date: 17 Jun 1995 14:04:14 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <3runcu$j4b@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
I am looking for a program or a Diagram! palette to draw Booch (OOA/OOD
methodology) diagrams.
Thanks in advance for any info,
Bruno
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 17 Jun 1995 19:08:26 GMT
Organization: Center for Advanced Medical Informatics at Stanford
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3rv97a$pjb@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3r0u7i$8uu@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <D9zyBM.1B9@ex-nihilo.com> <3rt0ak$jsq@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
This probably echoes the original question that started this thread, but that
post has expired for me, so I really don't know.
My question is: there is currently no version of netscape that will work
locally on a NEXTSTEP 3.x system, right? (Probably none of them, but I guess
the question should really be asked individually for motorola, intel, hp,
and sun hardware.) I'm going to complain to the Netscape people about this
so they will hopefully compile one (or a few).
My reason? Well, I mostly like OmniWeb better and will probably like
netsurfer when I finally try it, Netscape has some encryption features that I
don't believe (could be wrong though, correct me if so) either of the
NEXTSTEP browsers have. Some really security conscious applications (like
on-line banking on the web) require this feature. Some sites seem to actually
detect which browser you are running (or at least they detect whether the
browser has this feature) and they give you different pages if it does not.
I could always run Netscape non-locally but display it to my NEXTSTEP screen
using one of the X programs for NEXTSTEP, but the problem here is that this
sends all the critical information across the network unencrypted so that
anyone with a packet sniffer (pretty common these days) can see the stuff
before it gets to the machine running netscape which will then encrypt it
before sending it on to its final destination.
I haven't tried netsurfer, but anyone know when will it or OmniWeb have this
feature? Do they already and I just don't know about it?
-Karl kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu
From: peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Little bugger 'sendmail -q' does not work for users...
Date: 17 Jun 1995 17:52:48 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Message-ID: <3rv4pg$n77@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
It seems that only root can do sendmail -q on my machine. Everyone else gets
Permission denied. What is even more strange is the permissions on sendmail seem to be
allright:
(barbakane:54)% ll -g sendmail /usr/lib
-r-sr-x--x 1 root wheel 98304 Jan 20 1994 sendmail*
I have recently changed my HD and reinstalled NS3.2 from scratch from the CD-ROMs,
so it must be 'built in'. I also have the SendmailPatch installed from NA. I'm fairly certain
that I always had this problem before...
Thanks for any suggestions.
--
Piotr Twarecki
(Please reply in this newsgroup, if possible)
From: Hugh Allan <hallan@origin.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: displaying .avi-video-files
Date: 17 Jun 1995 21:47:21 +0100
Organization: Demon Internet News Service
Sender: news@news.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <9506172025.AA01501@origin.demon.co.uk>
In comp.sys.next.software article <3rmann$33d@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> you
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> does anyone know an application that can be used to process and/or display
> video-files in .avi format. Any platform (intel/motorola) is welcome.
> ("Scene" does not understand .avi-files. )
I see this come up a lot so I thought I should add my $.02. No I don't know of
one, but...
There is an application called XAnim, which runs on X Servers. The version I
have is for Amiga. It plays back audio and video, and plays most animation
formats, avi, QuickTime, Amiga anim, FLI/FLC, etc. I haven't got a squeek out
of it yet, it grumbles about unrecognised chunks and explodes. The point is the
source is available, it's a start, and someone should do a port. (me? busy,
busy, busy, bogged down in C++ oop soup).
--
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__ /// 3DO/SNES/Jaguar/Pepsi/John Peel addict | X T | |
\\\/// Now playing: 3DO GEX |_____| |
\XX/ Current project: NeXT OffRoad olr: ######oooo \_____\|
I am The Great Cornholio, I need TP for my Bunghole - Beavis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: leed@il.us.swissbank.com (Dwight Lee)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb, WWW, and mpeg
Message-ID: <1995Jun17.010046.8900@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: OmniWeb www mpeg mpg content-type
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3rpi9r$9t2@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 01:00:46 GMT
Michael Friendly writes
> Can anyone play mpeg animations from OmniWeb (1.0)?
>
> There's a neat little animation, chaos.mpg, at
> http://www-i.almaden.ibm.com/vis/mpeg.html
>
> but when I select it, OmniWeb saves it as chaos.mpeg, and the Workspace
> opens it as a text file. Movie.app registers the .mpg extension, but
not
> mpeg. Since the file originally had a .mpg extension, I'm mystified
> as to how it got changed to .mpeg. Is this a problem with OmniWeb or
> with the server? [Of course, I can change the extension and play it
> from the WS.]
In OmniWeb's appwrapper is a file called content.list. You can change
video/mpeg mpeg
to
video/mpeg mpg
and get the behavior that you desire. Probably. :-)
From: kdarmawa@ix.netcom.com (Kurniawan Darmawangsa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem after installing new serial mouse driver
Date: 18 Jun 1995 02:00:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3s01cd$kmb@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>
References: <DAC0Lt.13D@fritz.snafu.de>
Hi I just installed the new serial mouse driver. The mouse works great.
But I can't print or fax,
Is there anybody has the same problem
Thanks for any help
Kurniawan
From: chin@clark.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Engage! Desktop Users
Date: 18 Jun 1995 06:45:31 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3s0i2b$mtr@clarknet.clark.net>
References: <D9tJ2p.4F3@eskimo.com> <jpanicoDA3x4u.1u3@netcom.com> <3rsj0d$u8@news.nd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> wrote:
> For how much, and from where, did you purchase Engage! ? And,
> does it run on the black ?
Definitely, definitely try out David Lambert's Fiend.app first. Engage isn't supported
anymore,. Fiend is shareware ($10) and is quad fat - download it, try it, and
definitely pay the shareware fee if you use it. I certainly did.
..Bill
From: hoff@lache.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Weird PPP Troubles
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 18 Jun 1995 17:37:45 GMT
Organization: GMD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <3s1o99$kqc@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <DADLL7.6A9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Jerry Kuch (gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
(..long tale of woe..)
>When I switched to another terminal window and tried an 'ls' on a local
>directory on my own machine, I got the 'total 37' (or whatever) as the
>first line of the directory output, but then it apparently hung. In
>some cases the rest of the directory would eventually get printed but
>only after insanely long waits (more than a minute). I could do a 'ps'
..
>I can reboot and get my system back to normal. But once I try to reconnect
>with PPP, this screwy behavior returns.
Rest easy: it has nothing to do with your PPP setup. This behaviour is
usually caused by the single-threaded lookupd. This daemon performs
network-related lookups (who'd guess?), and in it's current incarnation,
it's single-threaded, i.e. it queues the requests and performs them one
after another. If a NetInfo-related call gets stuck (DNS lookups are the
most frequent failure reasons) you see the described behaviour: a spinning
cursor and 'blocked' system. The call will eventually time out, and
everything will continue. However, for an interactive system, this behaviour
is just plain unacceptable. NeXT is aware of this problem and promised a fix.
When? Dunno.
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstaette ___ "X was designed to run three programs:
hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de /\__\ xterm, xload, and xclock."
[NeXTmail: YES]; \/__/ - The UNIX Haters Handbook
From: peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Weird PPP Troubles
Date: 18 Jun 1995 20:43:39 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Message-ID: <3s235r$oqi@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <DADLL7.6A9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <3s1o99$kqc@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
hoff@lache.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> Jerry Kuch (gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
> (..long tale of woe..)
> >When I switched to another terminal window and tried an 'ls' on a local
> >directory on my own machine, I got the 'total 37' (or whatever) as the
> >first line of the directory output, but then it apparently hung. In
> >some cases the rest of the directory would eventually get printed but
> >only after insanely long waits (more than a minute). I could do a 'ps'
> ..
> >I can reboot and get my system back to normal. But once I try to reconnect
> >with PPP, this screwy behavior returns.
> Rest easy: it has nothing to do with your PPP setup. This behaviour is
> usually caused by the single-threaded lookupd. This daemon performs
> network-related lookups (who'd guess?), and in it's current incarnation,
> it's single-threaded, i.e. it queues the requests and performs them one
> after another. If a NetInfo-related call gets stuck (DNS lookups are the
> most frequent failure reasons) you see the described behaviour: a spinning
> cursor and 'blocked' system. The call will eventually time out, and
> everything will continue. However, for an interactive system, this behaviour
> is just plain unacceptable. NeXT is aware of this problem and promised a fix.
> When? Dunno.
> Holger
> --
> Holger Hoffstaette ___ "X was designed to run three programs:
> hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de /\__\ xterm, xload, and xclock."
> [NeXTmail: YES]; \/__/ - The UNIX Haters Handbook
I think the problem Jerry is experiencing is not nearly that severe. I had identical
behaviour with PNI when the routing tables were not setup properly. What I would
suggest is that Jerry ensures he has 'defaultroute' as an argument to pppd in his setup.
Second, he should check his host setup, as described in the ppp docs. As an example,
my /etc/hostconfig looks like this:
# /etc/hostconfig
#
# This file sets up shell variables used by the various rc scripts to
# configure the host. Edit this file instead of rc.boot.
#
# Warning: This is sourced by /bin/sh. Make sure there are no spaces
# on either side of the "=".
#
# There are some special keywords used by rc.boot and the programs it
# calls:
#
# -AUTOMATIC- Configure automatically
# -YES- Turn a feature on
# -NO- Leave a feature off or do not configure
#
HOSTNAME=barbakane
INETADDR=127.0.0.1
ROUTER=-NO-
IPNETMASK=
IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC-
NETMASTER=-NO-
YPDOMAIN=-NO-
TIME=-NO-
And my pppup script looks like this:
#!/bin/sh -f
# -*- Fundamental -*-
#
# kdebug 1 is SC_DEBUG
# 2 is SC_LOG_INPKT
# 4 is SC_LOG_OUTPKT
# 8 is SC_LOG_RAWIN
# 16 is SC_LOG_FLUSH
#
# add together to get debugging you want
# Remember: for HW flow control you must you /dev/cufa or /dev/cufb
#
#
# This is an example that dials a modem, logs into a remote Annex terminal
# server and starts ppp.
#
exec /usr/local/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 mtu 1500 lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-fa
ilure 3 crtscts modem lock defaultroute -pap -chap connect '/usr/local/bin/chat
-f /usr/local/ppp/scripts/login-mcgill' /dev/cufa 38400
I never had a 'lockup' problem since I figured out that it was the routing which was
responsible for my problems with SLIP setup. One thing I'm glad is that PPP has a
wanderful support for dynamic IP number assignment. In PNI it took me a while to get it
working. The only thing that PPP needs now is dial-on-demand and hangup after preset
line inactivity...
-----
Piotr Twarecki
(Please reply in this newsgroup, if possible)
--
Piotr Twarecki
(Please reply in this newsgroup, if possible)
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 19 Jun 1995 00:15:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3s2fid$ilu@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
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primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
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This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
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Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
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Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
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From: neal@moa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mac sounds -> NeXT sounds
Date: 19 Jun 1995 02:45:37 GMT
Organization: SONNET Networking - Modesto Sonora Stockton (800)50-ONLINE
Message-ID: <3s2och$3sg@moa1.moa.com>
Does anybody know of an app that can convert Mac sounds to NeXT sounds? If so,
where is it on the archives?
Thanks much,
Josh
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From: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: Weird PPP Troubles
Message-ID: <DAF6sL.4H4@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <DADLL7.6A9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <3s1o99$kqc@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <3s235r$oqi@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 12:31:32 GMT
In article <3s235r$oqi@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>,
Piotr Twarecki <twarecp@mtrmp001.allied.com> wrote:
>hoff@lache.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
>> Jerry Kuch (gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
>
>I think the problem Jerry is experiencing is not nearly that severe. I had
>identical
>behaviour with PNI when the routing tables were not setup properly. What I wo>uld
>suggest is that Jerry ensures he has 'defaultroute' as an argument to pppd in >his setup.
>Second, he should check his host setup, as described in the ppp docs. As
>an example,
>my /etc/hostconfig looks like this:
>I never had a 'lockup' problem since I figured out that it was the routing
>which was
>responsible for my problems with SLIP setup. One thing I'm glad is that PPP
>has a
>wanderful support for dynamic IP number assignment. In PNI it took me a while>to get it
>working. The only thing that PPP needs now is dial-on-demand and hangup after> preset
>line inactivity...
Piotr, thanks for your reply. Your config files and routing look very
much like what mine do. My ultimate fix was editing one line of resolv.conf
and picking a name server that hadn't been destroyed sometime Saturday
afternoon. :-) With that done things worked just fine.
As for the severity of the symptoms... they were quite awful. Any time
a network operation was attempted it would take forever to return with
a failure report. During this almost interminable period, I couldn't
even 'ls' my directories and trying to open new terminal windows
generated spinning disc disease... yeeeeghghgh...
But it's fixed now, and wasn't a problem of PPP at all. (I wouldn't
want people to be scared off of Stephen's great PPP implementation).
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: term+OmniWeb? How?
Date: 18 Jun 1995 19:19:51 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <CRATH.95Jun18151951@bcarh20d.bnr.ca>
References: <3rv0tm$ba8@newshost.fiu.edu>
In-reply-to: kafkouli@fiu.edu's message of 17 Jun 1995 16:46:46 GMT
Here are the directions I was sent, and which I followed:
Oct 14 14:35:00 1994
To: Christopher (C.J.) Rath (BNR) Dept 4Y21 CAR
From: 'steve@alice.ucsb.edu' (BNR400)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and term
To get OmniWeb running over term you need to do a few things. Omniweb wants to
make network connections to each site you wish to access. Term can only redirect
a port to a single site at a time, so you must set it up so that all of the
network sites appear to come from a single machine. The way to do this is to run
your own WEB server on the network connected machine and set it up to act as a
proxy for the rest of the WEB. Don't worry if you aren't familiar with the
terminology. All it means is that your WEB server will do all of the fetching
of pages and then Omniweb on the term connected machine will only connect to YOUR
WEB server. One nice thing about this set up is you can configure the WEB server
to cache all of the most recently retrieved pages, so revisiting a site is a lot
faster than retransmitting it from the other side of the globe.
Enough theory.
On the net connected machine:
Get a copy of the CERN http daemon. There is a NeXT binary so you don't even
have to compile it if you do not wish to. The relevant site is
http://info.cern.ch.
Set up the server to run as a caching proxy running on port 8000 by modifying the
sample configuration file "caching.conf" or "proxy.conf". You will have to read
some of the docs which come with the server, but it is pretty easy.
On the client machine
Use tredir to redirect port 8000 so that it appears local. ie
tredir 8000 net.connected.machine:8000
Configure Omniweb via the preference panel to use the proxy:
http://localhost:8000/
for all httpd requests.
Voila, you should be net surfing. There are a couple of caveats however. There
are some bugs in the OmniWeb proxy support. In particular, if for some reason a
http request fails, and you reclick on that site, Omniweb will append the server
address twice and the request will fail. The only workaround right now is to
restart. Fortunately this doesn't happen that often since OmniWeb caches all of
the pages retrieved in that session. Other than that it is reasonable fast over
a modem unless you retrieve big images.
Good Luck,
...STeve Trainof
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From: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Weird PPP Troubles
Message-ID: <DADLL7.6A9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 15:55:54 GMT
Yesterday, something utterly baffling started happening to me.
Since Feburary or so, I've been running Steve Perkins's very good PPP 2.2
package, without any problems. In fact, it works wonderfully. Yesterday,
however, something weird started happening. I was able to use my machine
and PPP normally in the morning but when I tried reconnecting later in the
evening (without having made any configuration changes to my hardware or
software), the following happened.
First off, I ran my 'pppup' script. I used 'tail -f' to watch the connection
happen. Our local annex paused for an unusually long time before finally
getting around to giving me my IP address and completing the connection.
Next, however, something really weird started happening. I tried a
straight finger. I got back the results. I tried a finger to the
hostname that my PPP provider gives me, i.e. finger @mfcfnet-ts13.uwaterloo.ca.
The modem lights flashed a bit and I got the finger info back as I would have
expected in roughly the right amount of time. Then I tried fingering
some other campus hosts. I tried rlogin to some of them.
Now for the scary part.
When I switched to another terminal window and tried an 'ls' on a local
directory on my own machine, I got the 'total 37' (or whatever) as the
first line of the directory output, but then it apparently hung. In
some cases the rest of the directory would eventually get printed but
only after insanely long waits (more than a minute). I could do a 'ps'
and get back the normal result but doing a 'ps -aux' printed the header
line of the ps report but never printed any more process information.
These kind of peculiarities were all over the place. Trying to open a
new Terminal.app window gave me a spinning disk cursor (something that
I've never seen while doing that before) for an awfully long time, up
to several minutes, before a terminal window either appeared or before
I gave up on it.
I can reboot and get my system back to normal. But once I try to reconnect
with PPP, this screwy behavior returns.
This is puzzling since I've been running my current hardware and software
configuration without changes since February and haven't had any problems
at all. Could our sysadmins have changed something that could have screwed
things up in this way? Does anybody have any idea as to what's happening
here and how I can remedy it? It leaves me with my formerly functional
PPP set-up completely useless, since it's suddenly become incapable of doing
any real network work, and it addles my machine in the process.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: Michael Pizolato <michael@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 19 Jun 1995 13:12:17 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3s3t3h$n1v@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no>
Arne Christian Hseth writes
[snip]
:I suppose its not relevant to the question, but NS should be
:X-compatible.
Thank God it's not!
Michael
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Mail.app cannot write new mail into the mailbox
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Jun19143403@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 18:34:03 GMT
I have a strange problem with Mail.app (3.3). When I receive new mail, the
program tries to copy the spool file into Active.mbox but it fails. Here
is the message I get:
File system error. Unable to write Active.mbox. File system error: No such
file or directory.
And in the console I get:
MailFetch: Can't make a copy of spoolfile.
MailFetch: No such file or directory
I solved this many times by renaming the Mailboxes folder to something
else and then reboot. Mail.app then creates a new file Active.mbox and can
copy the messages into it. But the problem always come back a little
while after.
What is really going on?
Thank you,
Francois
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From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 19 Jun 1995 18:26:48 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <3s4fh8$4e0@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com>
References: <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no>
In article <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian
H rseth) writes:
> mmalcolm> Command-click on the up- and down-arrow keys to send the
> mmalcolm> current bottom window to the top and vice-versa. So you
> mmalcolm> still have to click on the Window to make it Main, but...
> mmalcolm> Maybe this behaviour should be restricted to Command- and
> mmalcolm> Alt-clicking on the menu bar, and the Command-arrow
> mmalcolm> functionality should actually bring the next application to
> mmalcolm> the fore?
>
> This is not good enough. You should have the possibility to do about
> everything you can do with the mouse with the keyboard. Look at
> MS-Windows, here you can do about anything with the keyboard (I am
> not saying MS-Windows is the best soulution).
I disagree. I do wish you could do a little more with the keyboard,
but not much. Doing stuff like resizing windows from the keyboard
is just wrong.
That's not to say that the mouse is always enough - it certainly
isn't. But there has to be a balance.
There's also a need for alternative access - for disabled persons,
for special uses, etc. The correct solution isn't to glom on
keyboard access - it's to provide an appropriate interface. (That
interface may be very keyboard-based, but it will be different in
other significant ways as well - just sticking in keyboard access
to everything is an inappropriate and incomplete solution.) This
is an area that is sadly VERY lacking at this time.
> I suppose its not relevant to the question, but NS should be
> X-compatible.
Yikes! You can get X for NeXT if you need it, but I certainly
don't want that as my primary display model.
--
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14335 Northeast 24th Street Bellevue, WA 98007
(NeXTmail / MIME / MS Mail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: @river.it.gvsu.edu (Drnek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Perl and Lisp
Date: 19 Jun 1995 18:32:49 GMT
Organization: Grand Vally State University
Message-ID: <3s4fsh$nlo@news.it.gvsu.edu>
Does anybody know where I can find Perl 5 and Lisp that are ready to
be compiled for HPPA and NeXT hardware?
Any help will be welcomed
Drnek
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From: mandel@calefon (Luis Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SGML Browser
Date: 21 Jun 1995 09:34:09 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3s8p2h$3nv@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
I would like to know if it is available any SGML browser for NeXT.
Thanks, Luis
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From: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: Weird PPP Troubles
Message-ID: <DAEH0v.HqI@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <DADLL7.6A9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <3s1o99$kqc@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 03:14:55 GMT
In article <3s1o99$kqc@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>,
Holger Hoffstaette <hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de> wrote:
>Jerry Kuch (gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
>(..long tale of woe..)
>
>Rest easy: it has nothing to do with your PPP setup. This behaviour is
>usually caused by the single-threaded lookupd. This daemon performs
>network-related lookups (who'd guess?), and in it's current incarnation,
>it's single-threaded, i.e. it queues the requests and performs them one
>after another. If a NetInfo-related call gets stuck (DNS lookups are the
>most frequent failure reasons) you see the described behaviour: a spinning
>cursor and 'blocked' system. The call will eventually time out, and
>everything will continue. However, for an interactive system, this behaviour
>is just plain unacceptable. NeXT is aware of this problem and promised a fix.
>When? Dunno.
Holger... thanks very much for the information. This turned out to be
exactly the problem. Sometime on Saturday the machine in VLSI that I
usually use as my name server bought the farm. The weirdness that
the single-threaded nature of the daemon causes (I hadn't previously
known of its single-threaded nature) had me somewhat puzzled. Being
unable to resolve addresses is one thing... suddenly becoming unable
to read my own local directories was a source of considerable annoyance! :-)
I switched to another name server today and everything is happily back to
normal...
Thanks again,
Jerry
--
Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU KESSEN
brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: New Serial Drivers
Date: 19 Jun 1995 20:52:17 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3s4o21$ibt@news.acns.nwu.edu>
I have the opportunity to use the new serial and mouse drivers on my system
for several days. I understand they are still beta, but my experience with
on chips with and without FIFO's has be very positive. I haven't seen any
crashes [in spite of my best efforts] and feel very comfortable running my
fancy modem at very high baud rates. It even works well with the ersatz
'8250' on my Gateway. Its also nice to freely configure large number of
serial devices at will [within the hellish limitations of the original PC
hardware].
So to the crew @ Next who worked on these - Thanks.
--
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From: root@white (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 19 Jun 1995 22:03:23 GMT
Organization: INnet NV
Message-ID: <3s4s7b$oan@news.INbe.net>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net>
Another item for a UI improvement wish list :
Add a "Snapshot" item in the Workspace that will create
a new file which remembers all open apps and documents.
When you double-click it, it reopens everything you were
working on. This snapshot file could be a wrapper so you
can open it up and add links to other files you want to
add to the snapshot.
allen
From: cee5231@tam2000.tamu.edu (Christina E. Eaton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Phone number for Insignia Solutions ?!?!?!???
Date: 19 Jun 1995 20:38:39 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Tx
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3s4n8f$mbq@news.tamu.edu>
Does anyone have the phone number for Insignia Solutions?
Thank you.
From: robin@batcave.pencom.com (Robin D Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 19 Jun 1995 21:26:40 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3s4q2g$16uk@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <3rsph4$u8@news.nd.edu> <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu>
Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu> wrote:
: >7) Double-click, or select, characters (etc) with one mouse button and
: >insert them somewhere else with a click of another button. In other words, do
: >a copy/paste without having to a) go into edit in the menu, b) "copy",
: >c) choose your insertion place and then d) "paste". Too much hassle for a
: >copy/paste job. The above desirable feature already works on other, "less
: >sophisticated", systems ! Why not on NS ?
: Um, just one word, IMHO...
: ICK!
: I use this kinda system regularly (i.e. X-Windows), and I personally HATE it. Too
easy to clobber something on the pasteboard. Leave the Cut/Copy/Paste as they are
for me.
Then give us a choice. I prefer the mouse-based cut/paste.
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From: peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Weird PPP Troubles
Date: 19 Jun 1995 21:38:01 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Message-ID: <3s4qnp$nqk@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <DADLL7.6A9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <3s1o99$kqc@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <3s235r$oqi@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <DAF6sL.4H4@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch) wrote:
[...snap...]
> Piotr, thanks for your reply. Your config files and routing look very
> much like what mine do. My ultimate fix was editing one line of resolv.conf
> and picking a name server that hadn't been destroyed sometime Saturday
> afternoon. :-) With that done things worked just fine.
[...snap...]
You are welcome, although I was not mych help ;-)... This is very interesting though, I
could have sworn I knew the problem. The symptoms were identical to what was
happening with my cube and PNI. I'm glad you have it corrected...
> --
> Jerry Kuch, EMail: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMAIL acceptable.
> IMPORTANT NEWS: As reported in VARIETY, GAMERA - DAIKAIJU KUCHU
KESSEN
> brought in $751,805 in thirteen theaters in Tokyo during its second
> week of release. This brings the film's two-week total to $1,633,888.
--
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From: robin@batcave.pencom.com (Robin D Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 19 Jun 1995 21:46:28 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3s4r7k$16uk@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no>
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arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth) wrote:
: I suppose its not relevant to the question, but NS should be X-compatible.
Yeah, and while we're at it -- let's make it crash frequently like DOS/Windows.
(Please don't set us back -- we can't possibly gain _anything_ by being compatible
with X.)
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From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Phone number for Insignia Solutions ?!?!?!???
Date: 19 Jun 1995 22:51:52 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3s4v28$a1u@natasha.rmii.com>
References: <3s4n8f$mbq@news.tamu.edu>
In article <3s4n8f$mbq@news.tamu.edu> cee5231@tam2000.tamu.edu (Christina
E. Eaton) writes:
> Does anyone have the phone number for Insignia Solutions?
> Thank you.
508-682-7600
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Changing mouse pointer look?
Date: 20 Jun 1995 00:54:54 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3s568u$bfa@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Does anyone know how to do this?
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philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: seanl@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 20 Jun 1995 01:01:26 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
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Robin D Wilson (robin@batcave.pencom.com) wrote:
>: I suppose its not relevant to the question, but NS should be X-compatible.
>Yeah, and while we're at it -- let's make it crash frequently like DOS/Windows.
>(Please don't set us back -- we can't possibly gain _anything_ by being compatible
>with X.)
I loathe X with every fiber of my being, but, um, we could at the very
least gain an enormous number of fair applications. Being X-compatible is
a GOOD idea IMHO.
>*** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! ***
Disclaimers aside...
>Robin D. Wilson robin@pencom.com Pencom Software
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Subject: Size of VVimage's _GraphBuilder_
Date: 20 Jun 1995 02:44:25 GMT
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After just spending a day trying unsuccessfully to install
_GraphBuilder_ on my machine, I just have to vent some frustration.
I started the day by down-loading the README and info files. Looked
them over, decided that I should take a look at this demo they
offer on the Oregon State ftp server. I was unsuccessful, and had
their documentation been more straightforward, I wouldn't have
wasted my whole day moving files around, trying to find space for
this monstrousity. I finally gave up after several hours when I
determined that 42meg (!) worth of free disc space was insufficient
to unpack the relevant files. I simply have no more room available
on my machine at the moment.
What pisses me off is that there is absolutely no warning in their
documentation that this is such a huge application. As the day
wore on and I freed up a few megs here and a few megs there, I kept
thinking that I was probably just a few meg short of the (unstated)
required amount. I kept thinking that only an idiot would put a
40+ meg _DEMO_ out without making it clear in their documentation
how much space was required. I guess I was wrong.
The question is: am I out of line by being annoyed that they failed
to provide this item of information before I wasted my day trying
to install it?
Actually there's a second question: does anybody know just how
big this application really turns out to be? I *still* haven't a
clue how big it finally turns out to be!
Sheesh!
Brian
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 06:14:15 GMT
Joe Reiss (jreiss@discus.ise.vt.edu) wrote:
: My request... A float toggle button, like that found in TIFFany, for
: those windows created as floating. Don't know how often those buggers
: get in the way of what I'm REALLY trying to do, and I just want to
: push them back out of the way.
: Oh, and how about including an improved dock/shelf/etc like Fiend?
I second those two ideas. And let's extend the "virtual" concept
beyond memory and have the option to enjoy virtual desktop space.
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From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
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In article <3s3ppa$2j1m@ftp.univie.ac.at>, cikan@anne.par.univie.ac.at says...
>
>arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth) wrote:
>
>> I suppose its not relevant to the question, but NS should be
>> X-compatible.
>
>Yes. It should include an X-Server, so it will be easier to integrate NeXTSTEP
into an existing
>UNIX-Network.
Not that I am opposed to this because I hate X or so, but there are a couple very
good X environments for NS around. Any work on the part of NeXT to integrate X
will make the product more expensive, and I don't want to pay for that X stuff.
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From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
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In the File Viewer, while dragging file(s) in a Copy/Move operation,
I would like to be able to click the second mouse button to toggle
between Copy/Move/Link. e.g. I pull 5 files from one filesystem to
another and the default is Copy, so I click the second mouse button
once and it switches to Move, and then I drop the files.
Eric
Date: 20 Jun 1995 10:28:16 GMT
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Subject: Header in Mail.app
Date: 20 Jun 1995 11:24:22 GMT
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Anyone know if there is the possibility to have more than 2 user define header in Mail.app
?
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From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 20 Jun 1995 14:16:05 -0400
Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
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In article <3rv97a$pjb@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) wrote:
> My question is: there is currently no version of netscape that will work
> locally on a NEXTSTEP 3.x system, right? (Probably none of them, but I guess
> the question should really be asked individually for motorola, intel, hp,
> and sun hardware.) I'm going to complain to the Netscape people about this
> so they will hopefully compile one (or a few).
Ha! Good luck! Porting Netscape is a nontrivial task. They would have
to write the UI from scratch. They probably have no NEXTSTEP
programmers. I'm sure they will never bother to produce a NS port.
I mailed Netscape asking if they had any plans whatsoever to produce
ports for any of the three platforms I use (or want to). Answer:
NEXTSTEP/OpenStep: No
Ultrix: No
OS/2: No
I don't even know why they won't do an Ultrix port. It should be
trivial to do since they have 50 zillion X ports already, and Ultrix has
a pretty significant existing user base (probably bigger than NS and
OS/2 combined), even if DEC has stopped updating it in favor of OSF/1.
Netscape definitely going to produce one (or a few) NS versions of their
browser. Maybe if you offered them a $500,000 contract to produce
mission-critical Netscape Navigators for NEXTSTEP...
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From: Greg.Titus@mccaw.com (Greg Titus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 20 Jun 1995 18:40:46 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
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In article <3rv97a$pjb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl
Pfleger) writes:
> My reason? Well, I mostly like OmniWeb better and will probably like
> netsurfer when I finally try it, Netscape has some encryption features
> that I don't believe (could be wrong though, correct me if so) either of
> the NEXTSTEP browsers have. Some really security conscious applications
> (like on-line banking on the web) require this feature. Some sites seem
> to actually detect which browser you are running (or at least they
> detect whether the browser has this feature) and they give you different
> pages if it does not.
Probably detecting whether you're connecting with SSL (Secure Sockets
Layer) or not.
> I haven't tried netsurfer, but anyone know when will it or OmniWeb have
> this feature? Do they already and I just don't know about it?
>
> -Karl kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu
OmniWeb 1.0 does not have this feature, but we will support SSL in
OmniWeb's next release. (It already works, actually, along with a bunch of
other cool stuff). I have no idea what kind of schedule we'll have for
getting it out though. (There is still plenty more we want to do.)
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From: rick@sq.sq.com (Rick Innis)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Message-ID: <1995Jun20.171744.10734@sq.sq.com>
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 95 17:17:44 GMT
In article <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> Dayne Miller <dayne@spry.com> writes:
> 3) Keyboard means to swich between active windows and applications.
Doesn't command+{UP,down}-arrow give you this? Or did you have something
else in mind?
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GatorFTP Quad Fat?
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 22:16:05 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
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> Or if you can shell out $149, get NetSurfer. I was amazed at how
> good the ftp GUI was in that product. Unfortunately, they don't
> seem to offer any discounts.
>
Umm, I think it's either $39 or $45 to education.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 20 Jun 1995 21:17:49 GMT
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Nathan Urban writes
> Ha! Good luck! Porting Netscape is a nontrivial task.
> They would have to write the UI from scratch.
Probably true.
>They probably have no NEXTSTEP programmers.
Definitely false. Netscape has many old NeXT employees.
>I'm sure they will never bother to produce a NS port.
So am I, but it's not for lack of technical talent, it's for lack of
market presence.
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From: patrickg@success.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 20 Jun 1995 22:43:38 GMT
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In <3s7dtt$sr9@shelob.afs.com>, Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) writes:
>Nathan Urban writes
>> Ha! Good luck! Porting Netscape is a nontrivial task.
>> They would have to write the UI from scratch.
>
>Probably true.
So this would in any way be difficult with tools like Interface Builder available?
Since NetScape is prob. written in C/C++, the backend parser that recognizes the
markup tags couldn't possibly be difficult to port. The front end wouldn't have
to be perfect (to start); it could be improved later.
>>They probably have no NEXTSTEP programmers.
>
>Definitely false. Netscape has many old NeXT employees.
>
>>I'm sure they will never bother to produce a NS port.
>
>So am I, but it's not for lack of technical talent, it's for lack of
>market presence.
Probably true; then again, with Next and Sun pretty close, and Sun and NetScape
pretty close...
Patrick Giagnocavo => patrickg@success.net
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 19 Jun 1995 12:51:18 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
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In-reply-to: mmalcolm Crawford's message of Sat, 17 Jun 1995 10:53:30 GMT
>>>>> "mmalcolm" == mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
mmalcolm> ...
>> 2) Keyboard access to menu bars.
>>
mmalcolm> I'm not quite sure what you mean here: most frequently-used
mmalcolm> commands have Command-key shortcuts, and you are free to add
mmalcolm> your own in Preferences.
>> 3) Keyboard means to swich between active windows and applications.
>>
mmalcolm> Command-click on the up- and down-arrow keys to send the
mmalcolm> current bottom window to the top and vice-versa. So you
mmalcolm> still have to click on the Window to make it Main, but...
mmalcolm> Maybe this behaviour should be restricted to Command- and
mmalcolm> Alt-clicking on the menu bar, and the Command-arrow
mmalcolm> functionality should actually bring the next application to
mmalcolm> the fore?
This is not good enough. You should have the possibility to do about
everything you can do with the mouse with the keyboard. Look at
MS-Windows, here you can do about anything with the keyboard (I am
not saying MS-Windows is the best soulution).
I suppose its not relevant to the question, but NS should be
X-compatible.
Arne
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From: cikan@anne.par.univie.ac.at (Edwin Cikan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 19 Jun 1995 12:15:38 GMT
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arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth) wrote:
> I suppose its not relevant to the question, but NS should be
> X-compatible.
Yes. It should include an X-Server, so it will be easier to integrate NeXTSTEP into an existing
UNIX-Network.
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From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: voice/data/fax modems
Date: 20 Jun 1995 13:45:57 GMT
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pbuckley@delphi.com wrote:
> Is JollysZyxelFax the same as the old "am" answering machine/fax software?
No. 'am' is the answering machine/receiving faxes/login program,
JollysZyxelFax is sending faxes software.
> What modems does Nextstep work with natively
As far as I understand, none that you can still buy.
Get NXfax, or JollysZyxelFax (for ZyXel) or Jollys2.0Fax (for all others)
and pay Jolly his shareware fee.
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From: tini@gurke.ping.de (Constantin Szallies)
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
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>From: pgriffin@anole (Paul A Griffin)
Does anyone know how to get the domainname by a system call?
Alexandra right now uses "getdomainname" to compose the "From" header,
but this does not work if the name was not set with "setdomainname" (see
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From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steven Borrelli)
Subject: Need MUX binary
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 14:47:22 GMT
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I need the Mux binary to replace the crappy serial drivers with NS 3.3.
Is there a binary on the ftp sites or (even better) could someone
NeXTmail a compiled version? (Let me know before you mail!)
Thanks,
_steve
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 20 Jun 1995 15:57:54 GMT
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Robin D Wilson wrote:
> arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth) wrote:
> : I suppose its not relevant to the question, but NS should be X-compatible.
>
> Yeah, and while we're at it -- let's make it crash frequently like DOS/Windows.
> (Please don't set us back -- we can't possibly gain _anything_ by being compatible
> with X.)
How about *secure* GUI remotability ("-display")?
(Yes, -NXHost exists. It is also completely insecure. Is it really so hard to create an
access control list for "Public Window Server" ala xhost?)
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From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 20 Jun 1995 16:09:27 GMT
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Arne Haarseth writes:
> This is not good enough. You should have the possibility to do about
> everything you can do with the mouse with the keyboard. Look at
> MS-Windows, here you can do about anything with the keyboard (I am
> not saying MS-Windows is the best soulution).
Apparently, NeXT disgarees. From the 'User Interface Guidelines' documents:
"-- The mouse (not the keyboard) is the primary instrument for user input."
"All aspects of the user interface are represented by graphical objects displayed
on-screen, and all graphical objects are operated mainly by the mouse, not the keyboard.
The keyboard is principally used for entering text. The mouse is the more appropriate
instrument for a graphical interface.
"Nevertheless, it's often a good idea to provide keyboard alternatives to mouse
actions (see Keyboard Alternatives in Chapter 3, User Actions: The Keyboard and
Mouse). They can be efficient shortcuts for experienced users. Keyboard alternatives
are always optional, however. Visual representations on the screen never are. A
keyboard operation without a corresponding mouse-oriented operation on-screen isn't
appropriate."
While I do not entirely agree with this philosophy, NeXT has done a great deal of
human-computer interaction and GUI design work, and they do have a reasonable case.
-Chuck
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From: mike@child (Michael Emmel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 20 Jun 1995 16:21:11 GMT
Organization: inteleNET Internet Services
Message-ID: <3s6shn$pqk@vodka.intele.net>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s4r7k$16uk@digdug.pencom.com> <3s6r62$mul@www.its.com>
I think nexstep should ship with a 21 inch moninter
and 64 megs of ram : )
Mike
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mac sounds -> NeXT sounds
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 17:09:04 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950620180904.258AACUU.malc@daneel>
References: <3s2och$3sg@moa1.moa.com>
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> Does anybody know of an app that can convert Mac sounds to NeXT
> sounds? If so, where is it on the archives?
>
Giso.app from ftp.cs.orst.edu is a NEXTSTEP front-end to sox, a general
sound-conversion utility.
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/sound/GISO.MAB.v3.3.tar.gz
Alternatively, I've written a Workspace Inspector for .wav and .aiff files:
I've now had a couple of bug reports (some are due to bugs in NS itself)
which I'm afraid I don't have time to fix, but it generally works fine:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/software/NeXT/binaries/sound/MMSoundsInspector.bundle.
2.3.NIH.tar.Z
Have fun,
mmalc.
posn. research facilitator
where institute for language speech and hearing
sheffield university
c/o department of computer science
regent court
211 portobello street
sheffield s1 4dp
england
vox (+44) 114 282 5569
fax (+44) 114 278 0972
email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome
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From: ksmith@telesource.com(K. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFF to GIF software?
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 17:13:25 GMT
Organization: scruz-net
Message-ID: <950620101325.218AAC7S.kevin@ksmith>
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Is there such an affordable(preferably share-ware) app for Nextstep?
Thanks in advance!
Kevin T. Smith
ksmith@telesource.com
From: chuck@primenet.com (Charles Knidt Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP
Date: 20 Jun 1995 18:30:45 GMT
Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010
Message-ID: <3s744l$589@nnrp1.primenet.com>
Hi,
I was wondering if someone could sugguest a good ppp program for
NS 3.3.... I can't seem to get the steve something ppp to work....
Thanks in advance,
Chuck
chuck@primenet.com
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Doom][, and doom2.wad, not perfect together...
Date: 19 Jun 1995 17:50:59 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3s4rg3$dah@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Has anyone out there gotton the commercial doom2.wad file to work with the
alpha version of Doom2.app?
Or for that matter the commercial doom.wad? I've only gotton it to work with
the doom1.wad (non-commercial version). I tried upgrading my commercial wads,
but couldn't tell what versions of the wads I had. The console messages were
not clear to me. Anyway, I ran a bunch of the wad upgraders to no avail...
Does anyone out there have it working with either of the commercial wads?
If so how did you get it to work?
Thanks, Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: Having problems install NS on Gateway P5-75
Message-ID: <DAHLHq.HHx@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 19:44:14 GMT
I get it booted up to the point where it asks me which partition to
put NeXTSTEP on, and then it starts the install onto it.
After a while, I get a Bus Error, from /private/etc/rc.cdrom. This
doesn't make any sense, because rc.cdrom is a shell script.
I've tried several times, and the Bus Error comes at different points
in the install. I was able to get the little slider almost halfway
through the first time, but now it dies just a few files in.
Is this some sort of BIOS config problem?
--
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Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063
2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558
<fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: bbehtash@crl.com (Behzad Behtash)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing NS 3.3 on a Micron with AHA 2940W
Date: 20 Jun 1995 20:17:35 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Message-ID: <3s7acv$n2q@nntp.crl.com>
I am trying to install NS 3.3 on a 100 MHz Micron Millenia (Triton Chipset)
with 32 MB RAM, ATI Graphics Pro, an Adaptec 2940W controller, Seagate ST15150W
(Barracuda4 Wide), and Toshiba T3601 CDROM. I thought all the components were
O.K. but when it get to the point where it asks which partition to install
NeXTSTEP in, and I specify the partition, it comes back with the error:
DISK INITIALLIZATION FAILED
INSTALLATION ABORTED
I have a 2 GB Primary DOS partition and a 1 GB extended DOS partition. The
install seems to correctly find the remaining 1 GB free space and asks if I want
to use that space for my NS partition and then fails at initiallization.
Any ideas? Is there a problem with the Triton chipset maybe? Do I need to get
any other drivers? It seems like it sees the drive and the CDROM.
Any help or ideas greatly appreciated.
Behzad
From: Mike_Hovan@BLaCKSMITH.com (Mike Hovan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 20 Jun 1995 21:31:41 GMT
Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc.
Message-ID: <3s7ent$2nc@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net> <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de>
> Does anyone know how to get the domainname by a system call?
> Alexandra right now uses "getdomainname" to compose the "From"
> header, but this does not work if the name was not set with
> "setdomainname" (see above).
Something like the following should pull the default domain name out of the DNS
namespace:
------------------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/socket.h>
#include <netinet/in.h>
#include <arpa/nameser.h>
#include <resolv.h>
void main(void)
{
res_init();
printf("%s\n", _res.defdname);
}
------------------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------------
"man 3 resolver" for more info.
Mike_Hovan@BLaCKSMITH.com
Mike_Hovan@id.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Message-ID: <DABL1o.FBs@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel>
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 13:48:59 GMT
The main improvement I would like to see is a variation on the Common Desktop
Environment (CDE) multi-desktop control. In a NeXT version there would be,
at a minimum, a programmer desktop (PDT) and a user desktop (UDT). As one
switched from one to the other, the icon doc would change and new apps would
autolaunch, as though a new login had occurred. The workspace manager would
remember the currently active desktop selection on logout.
I would also like to have the ability to apply spellchecker to any selected
text area; i.e. the clipboard would now support spellchecking.
Finally, I would like to autolaunch PrintManager if only it would hide
on autolaunch. One needs "inatant" access to the PrintManager to kill
a print job that is "screwed up" in some way. Also, Webster needs to
support hide on autolaunch.
I hope you agree -- especially S.J. ;-)
Tim
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|Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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From: jq@phcs.phcs.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Question about VirtSpace
Date: 20 Jun 1995 07:45:41 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <3s6cd5$2i9@papoose.quick.com>
References: <3rkuoq$jdd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> <DA5KAB.D4@manki.toppoint.de> <jpanicoDA5wqt.Foq@netcom.com>
In article <jpanicoDA5wqt.Foq@netcom.com>,
Joe Panico <jpanico@netcom.com> wrote:
>Is VirtSpace still being worked on? I bought a copy 2 years ago that still
>has a couple of bugs (I get an occasional weird DPS error message in the
>console). Every time I ask, I'm told that VirtSpace has not been worked
>on since Pinnacle sold it. Any info?
NYRO Technix has released an upgrade to VirtSpace. The latest is v3.03.
The email for sugestions/comments is:
virtspace@nyro.com
I'd bet they have an info alias, too.
Their phone number is:
(415) 664-1170
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) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: tiggr@es.ele.tue.nl (Pieter Schoenmakers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 21 Jun 1995 06:37:02 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <TIGGR.95Jun21083702@cobra.es.ele.tue.nl>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel>
<DABL1o.FBs@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
In-reply-to: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu's message of Sat, 17 Jun 1995 13:48:59 GMT
In article <DABL1o.FBs@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes:
As one switched from one to the other, the icon doc would change and new
apps would autolaunch, as though a new login had occurred.
See `ftp://ftp.es.ele.tue.nl/pub/tiggr/Desktop-0.5.4.ni.b.tar.gz'. Given
enough swapspace, you can have any number of desktops.
Admitted, it does not change your dock like the workspace manager could do,
but then again, using Desktop, my dock has been reduced to WM and the
recycler, plus any apps that display constantly useful information in their
app icons (i.e. mail and backspace with tclock).
And making a programmer's desktop is cool (huh): drag all IB palettes'
objects onto a desktop and get rid of the palette window.
Do forgive me this plug... --Tiggr
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 21 Jun 1995 15:34:44 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <3s9e6k$hbb@www.its.com>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net> <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de> <3s7ent$2nc@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>
Mike Hovan writes:
> Something like the following should pull the default domain name out of the DNS
> namespace:
[ ...good code example deleted... ]
If you want to handle things more robustly, consult the sendmail source code. Search for
myhostname() in daemon.c and look at the resolver lookup code in domain.c. To the best
of my knowledge, sendmail has one of the most thorough mechanisms for getting a FQDN
out of a machine.
-Chuck
--
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Techology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+--------------------------------------
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From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 21 Jun 1995 13:16:34 -0400
Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
Message-ID: <3s9k5i$5lq@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
References: <3s7395$p76@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> <3s7dtt$sr9@shelob.afs.com> <3s7iur$p6v@ralph.vnet.net>
In article <3s7iur$p6v@ralph.vnet.net>, patrickg@success.net wrote:
> >So am I, but it's not for lack of technical talent, it's for lack of
> >market presence.
(BTW, I never said it was for lack of technical talent, although I am
suprised that they have NS programmers around. Although I guess I
shouldn't be, since a lot of them came from NCSA, and wasn't NCSA
Mosaic's interface prototyped under NS?)
> Probably true; then again, with Next and Sun pretty close, and Sun and
> NetScape pretty close...
This is something I've been wistfully hoping for.. if Sun is big on
OpenStep, they might push NetScape a bit..
BTW, does anyone know whether OpenStep is going to be integrated into
all of Sun's future releases, or if it's going to be an add-on option that
you'll have to pay $5 gazillion for?
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca (Will Gilbert)
Subject: Re: TIFF to GIF software?
Message-ID: <DAJ042.8x8@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <950620101325.218AAC7S.kevin@ksmith>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 13:57:38 GMT
K. Smith writes
> Is there such an affordable(preferably share-ware) app for
> Nextstep?
>
I use OmniImage. See http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniImage/
--
********************************************************
Will Gilbert, Pure Math Dept, Univ of Waterloo, Canada
http://math.uwaterloo.ca/~wgilbert/
wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 21 Jun 1995 18:20:40 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <3s9nto$jf0@www.its.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s6rrn$mul@www.its.com> <3s8ttb$a8k@gjalp.ifi.uio.no>
Arne Haarseth writes:
> [ ...my entire message... ]
Just "for your information", you don't need to quote an entire message when replying.
People can read the original if they need to. Excerpt the relevant parts.
> Well, they obviously haven't studied the human anathomy.
Sorry, but that just isn't correct.
Learning about human reaction times and physical capabilities are a basic part of HCI.
As a matter of fact, one ends up doing millisecond-resolution flowcharts (similiar to what
are used in project management software) to examine how people perform various tasks
and what the critical path is.
NeXT may simply have decided to ignore the consequences of their
mouse-as-primary-GUI-input design decision upon handicapped people.
> I know a lot of people (myself included) who have had their mouse-arm "disabled"
> by the use of mouse. I agree the NS GUI is great, but you should have
> more alternatives to using the mouse.
Well, I agree with you that it would be nice if NS provided an alternative input method for
handicapped or disabled people. However, it simply may not be cost-effective for NeXT
to provide. Remember that NEXTSTEP is not and has never been intended as a
"mass-market" operating system. (*)
-Chuck
(*) Well, perhaps someone had intended NEXTSTEP as a mass-market solution, but a
simple reality check on the minimum possible cost per user for a NEXTSTEP seat
demonstrates that NEXTSTEP is just too expensive to displace MS-DOS/Windows for the
average home user.
--
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Techology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+--------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 21 Jun 1995 19:06:24 GMT
Organization: Center for Advanced Medical Informatics at Stanford
Message-ID: <3s9qjg$7sn@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3rt0ak$jsq@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <3rv97a$pjb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <3s7395$p76@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
In article <3s7395$p76@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) writes:
>Ha! Good luck! Porting Netscape is a nontrivial task. They would have
>to write the UI from scratch. They probably have no NEXTSTEP
>I don't even know why they won't do an Ultrix port. It should be
>trivial to do since they have 50 zillion X ports already, and Ultrix has
Not that this matters now, but I probably wasn't clear with my original
question. What I want is not a port to the NEXTSTEP GUI, but rather just
another X port for use with Cub'X and Co-Xist. Should be as easy as the
Ultrix port, and it wuold give us mission-critical security for our
mission-critical workstations. (As an alternative, I wouldn't mind is OmniWeb
added the encryptions features the NetScape has now.)
I asked Netscape and got a response that they were considering a number of
simple ports (possibly Ultrix as well), but that they probably wouldn't
happen since resources are being devoted instead to the next major release.
-Karl kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu
From: philip@seacove (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pointer
Date: 21 Jun 1995 17:48:48 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3s9m20$cjj@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Could someone point me to a utility or source of EPS files which will give me
a variety of pointers? Thank's to the 2 people who already sent me a
couple...Philip
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Pointer (again)
Date: 21 Jun 1995 17:54:05 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3s9mbt$cjj@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sorry but the From was wrong (new newsreader). I want a way of generating
bunches and bunches of pointers. For instance, I'd like a larger one.
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Subject: Re: SGML Browser
Message-ID: <DAJAyy.B3z@califhistsoc.org>
Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848
References: <3s8p2h$3nv@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 17:52:10 GMT
In article <3s8p2h$3nv@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> mandel@calefon
(Luis Mandel) writes:
> I would like to know if it is available any SGML browser for NeXT.
>
Sure would be nice if there were...
RM@califhistsoc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: lutzray@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Lutz Raymond)
Subject: Re: Changing mouse pointer look? (was Re: need HUGE cursors...)
Message-ID: <DAJKo5.JG5@cc.umontreal.ca>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 21:21:40 GMT
Here's some PS code dgoodman@is.rpslmc.edu (Dave Goodman) posted
end of March 95,
<begin repost of the repost of the repost:>
In article <ZHAO.95Mar24142201@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu
(Z. Zhao) writes:
> Please post it also. I need to know how to change the size and
> color, if it is possible, of the mouse arrow and cursor. The
> mouse is too small for me to catch.
>
> zhao
Here's something someone else posted a while back...it turns your
cursor to a rainbow color. I imagine if you're handy, you could
probably set the colors to be anything you want.
Paste the text below into a file named someFileName.ps, then double
click it in workspace. The effect will last until the next time
you reboot.
[It is simpler to pipe the code through pft -Ray]
-Dave
--------8<-------Cut Here-------
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 16 16
%%EndComments
0 0 16 16 Retained window
dup windowdeviceround
gsave
16 16 scale
16 16 4
[16 0 0 -16 0 16]
{<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>} false 3 alphaimage
grestore
gstate
nextdict /_NXSharedGrayAlpha get
NX_TwelveBitRGB 1 index setwindowdepthlimit
windowdeviceround
0 0 16 16 5 4 roll 0 32 Copy composite
nulldevice
termwindow
--------8<-------Cut Here-------
<end repost>
hope it helps, RL
From: Joanne Riley <jriley@jhu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Oh Help! Next WriteNow -> Mac WriteNow
Date: 21 Jun 1995 21:57:41 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <3sa4kl$8ml@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I admit it - I'm beat! I can't for the life of me figure this
one out. The problem:
I have some WriteNow files, created on a NeXT. I'm trying to
get them to a Mac. They are written in French and so have
diacritical marks. I can call them up in Mac WP just fine,
but there's a blank space where every accented letter should
be.
Is there ANYTHING I can do to remedy this? I would much much
prefer a solution that could be batch applied - we're talking
about 11 mg worth of files, in many many subdirectories - I
don't wanna have to deal with them one-by-one if avoidable!
Any suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciate. Thanks.
--Joanne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Message-ID: <DAJC53.HM@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <1995Jun20.171744.10734@sq.sq.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 18:17:26 GMT
In article <1995Jun20.171744.10734@sq.sq.com> rick@sq.sq.com (Rick
Innis) writes:
> In article <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> Dayne Miller
<dayne@spry.com> writes:
>
> > 3) Keyboard means to swich between active windows and
applications.
>
> Doesn't command+{UP,down}-arrow give you this? Or did you have
> something else in mind?
This switsches only the top window. I would prefer a method to change
the active window by pressing a key.
Michael
--
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*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-543915
*** michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
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From: root@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca (system PRIVILEGED account)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Message-ID: <DAJE9H.sD@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s6rrn$mul@www.its.com> <3s8ttb$a8k@gjalp.ifi.uio.no>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 19:03:17 GMT
In article <3s8ttb$a8k@gjalp.ifi.uio.no>,
Arne Christian Hĺrseth <arneha@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>>>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Swiger <chuck@its.com> writes:
>
>Chuck> Arne Haarseth writes:
>
>Well, they obviously haven't studied the human anathomy. I know a lot
>of people (myself included) who have had their mouse-arm "disabled" by
>the use of mouse. I agree the NS GUI is great, but you should have
>more alternatives to using the mouse.
Oh they'll say that they've studied it and probably dig up a test
audience of weirdos whose nervous systems are somehow defective in
such a way that their output bandwidth is low enough to start with
that letting go of the keyboard to grab the mouse frequently doesn't
make much of a difference.
To clarify, I really like the look and feel of the NeXT GUI. It would
be nice to have a couple more keyboard shortcuts though. Changing the
Key view from the keyboard would be nice for the times that I know I'm
going to be going back to typing immediately. And having a keyboard
shortcut for commandeering the position of the mouse pointer would be
especially nice on Intel systems where things can occasionally go
wrong and render the mouse unusable.
The mantra that "the keyboard is only for entering text and the mouse
reigns supreme" is repeated in the UI guidelines with the fervor of
the truly converted. Sadly, despite how much I like the way NEXTSTEP
looks, and (usually) feels, I hate these kind of proclamations. They
really reek of the same kinds of edicts that Apple has put up for
Macintosh development---edicts that result in software that makes me
feel needlessly helpless and castrated everytime I have to do more
than click a single button on one of those things.
From: bungi@bjornaer.omnigroup.com (Timothy J. Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Doom][, and doom2.wad, not perfect together...
Date: 21 Jun 1995 15:22:31 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3sa637$c6a@bjornaer.omnigroup.com>
References: <3s4rg3$dah@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
The v1.8 doom2.wad works for me with DoomII.app. Or maybe it is v1.9.
-tim
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>Has anyone out there gotton the commercial doom2.wad file to work with the
>alpha version of Doom2.app?
>Or for that matter the commercial doom.wad? I've only gotton it to work with
>the doom1.wad (non-commercial version). I tried upgrading my commercial wads,
>but couldn't tell what versions of the wads I had. The console messages were
>not clear to me. Anyway, I ran a bunch of the wad upgraders to no avail...
>Does anyone out there have it working with either of the commercial wads?
>If so how did you get it to work?
>Thanks, Later, John
--
Timothy J. Wood
Omni Development, Inc.
<http://www.omnigroup.com/People/bungi>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
In-Reply-To: chuck@its.com's message of 21 Jun 1995 18:20:40 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun21204059@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel>
<3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s6rrn$mul@www.its.com>
<3s8ttb$a8k@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s9nto$jf0@www.its.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 00:40:59 GMT
I just want to point out that there are some situations where it would be nice
to be able to move the cursor and click/double-click/triple-click with the
keyboard:
1. When your mouse is missing or broken.
2. When you have an embedded system.
3. When a person with a particular disability needs to use the system.
I've seen all three of these.
Robert
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 21 Jun 1995 12:56:43 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <3s8ttb$a8k@gjalp.ifi.uio.no>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel>
<3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s6rrn$mul@www.its.com>
In-reply-to: chuck@its.com's message of 20 Jun 1995 16:09:27 GMT
>>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Swiger <chuck@its.com> writes:
Chuck> Arne Haarseth writes:
>> This is not good enough. You should have the possibility to do
>> about everything you can do with the mouse with the keyboard. Look
>> at MS-Windows, here you can do about anything with the keyboard (I
>> am not saying MS-Windows is the best soulution).
Chuck> Apparently, NeXT disgarees. From the 'User Interface
Chuck> Guidelines' documents:
Chuck> "-- The mouse (not the keyboard) is the primary instrument for
Chuck> user input."
Chuck> "All aspects of the user interface are represented by
Chuck> graphical objects displayed on-screen, and all graphical
Chuck> objects are operated mainly by the mouse, not the keyboard. The
Chuck> keyboard is principally used for entering text. The mouse is
Chuck> the more appropriate instrument for a graphical interface.
Chuck> "Nevertheless, it's often a good idea to provide keyboard
Chuck> alternatives to mouse actions (see Keyboard
Chuck> Alternatives in Chapter 3, User Actions: The Keyboard
Chuck> and Mouse). They can be efficient shortcuts for experienced
Chuck> users. Keyboard alternatives are always optional, however.
Chuck> Visual representations on the screen never are. A keyboard
Chuck> operation without a corresponding mouse-oriented operation
Chuck> on-screen isn't appropriate."
Chuck> While I do not entirely agree with this philosophy, NeXT has
Chuck> done a great deal of human-computer interaction and GUI design
Chuck> work, and they do have a reasonable case.
Well, they obviously haven't studied the human anathomy. I know a lot
of people (myself included) who have had their mouse-arm "disabled" by
the use of mouse. I agree the NS GUI is great, but you should have
more alternatives to using the mouse.
Arne
--
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Ma.S student at the University of Oslo, Norway
Email: arneha@ifi.uio.no
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Backup with rdist
Date: 22 Jun 1995 02:31:45 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <3sakmh$q4e@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I would like to use rdist to back up certain directories onto a second
scsi hard drive mounted *locally*. Is this possible? I keep getting the
message
updating myhost
Permission denied.
rdist has so many nice features (incremental backup, extraneous files
removed, notification by email, ...), I'm hoping I won't have to resort to
ditto. Ideas?
Thanks for your time and advice. My sample distfile follows.
TEST_SOURCE = (dir1 dir2)
TEST_DESTINATION = myhost
test: ${TEST_SOURCE} -> ${TEST_DESTINATION}
install /dir3;
notify john;
rdist -n test [no error reported]
rdist test [above error reported]
--
John Devlin
Department of Philosophy
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: Todd Hivnor <hivnot@rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Can Tailor swap font types?
Date: 21 Jun 1995 18:42:17 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3s9p69$oee@usenet.rpi.edu>
I'm look for some way, any way, to replace bitmapped PK
fonts with scalable, PostScript fonts, in a large collection
of PostScript documents. I do not not have access to
the documents from which the PostScript was generated,
but I do know that most of it was created from TeX via dvips.
Somebody told me that a product called Tailor
existed for NeXT, which might be able to accomplish
my goal. Does anybody have know if Tailor can do this?
And, does anybody have any contact info. on the makers
of Tailor?
Todd Hivnor
hivnot@rpi.edu
From: sappenz@pinfo100 (Soeren Appenzeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WriteNow-Documentation
Date: 21 Jun 1995 12:02:36 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni Mannheim
Message-ID: <3s91os$70u@trumpet.uni-mannheim.de>
Does anybody knows about a complete descibtion of WriteNow ?
It's much to simple to write much about it, but I can't even find a
little documentation about the programm.
If there's a doc-file in the online-documentation of NeXTstep, I must
have missed it. I searched my hole harddisk.
So if anybody has ever seen a somthing like a documentation for
WriteNow, please tell it to me.
Thanks,
Soeren Appenzeller.
From: buzz@marvin.isdn.cs.TU-Berlin.DE (Bastian Schlueter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little bugger 'sendmail -q' does not work for users...
Date: 21 Jun 1995 21:34:03 GMT
Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe
Message-ID: <3sa38b$hfr@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3rv4pg$n77@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <3s99ij$fen@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl> wrote:
> peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki) wrote:
> >It seems that only root can do sendmail -q on my machine. Everyone else gets
> >Permission denied.
> What's even weirder (and more useless) is that when I make a suid root
> shellscript (on my home machine with no untrusted users) which calls sendmail
> this way, it still does not work. You have to be REALLY root...
> And when I invoke it from my PNI startup script (the place where you make some
> noise to indicate that the link is up), the whole NeXT (I assume lookupd) hangs
> because it cannot find the mailhost yet. A liitle sleeping does not help.
> Anybody knows a workaround?
Hello Geert,
the last behavior could be due to the fact that sendmail checks the real uid and
changes his effective uid to match real uid if called with some commandline options
(e.g. some -O switches or -f). This is for security. But the sendmail book does not
mention "-q" as one of them.
Another possibility is that you are running sendmail 8.6.9 or higher and in the
configuration file the "restrictqrun" option is set. This would lead to the following error
message:
You do not have permission to process the queue
Greetings
Bastian
P.S. Did you check /usr/lib/sendmail to be still setuid root?
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From: buzz@marvin.isdn.cs.TU-Berlin.DE (Bastian Schlueter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 21 Jun 1995 21:46:52 GMT
Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe
Message-ID: <3sa40c$hfr@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net> <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de> <3s87up$g46@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
cedman@capitalist.princeton.edu (Carl Edman) wrote:
> ...
> The proper way to get a FQDN is this.
> #include <netdb.h>
> {
> char s[256];
> struct hostent *h;
>
> gethostname(s,sizeof(s));
> h=gethostbyname(s);
> puts(h->h_name);
> }
> This should work on all systems independently of YP/NIS.
But not with netinfo. If you have only the hostname and not the fqdn in netinfo (like
most people) you end up getting only the hostname _even_ if you have a nameserver
running (because netinfo is consulted first):
marvin buzz 181 (~/tmp):cat > fqdn.c
#include <netdb.h>
main {
char s[256];
struct hostent *h;
gethostname(s,sizeof(s));
h=gethostbyname(s);
puts(h->h_name);
}
marvin buzz 182 (~/tmp):cc -o fqdn fqdn.c
marvin buzz 185 (~/tmp):./fqdn
marvin
marvin buzz 186 (~/tmp): echo "sh*t"
cu
Bastian
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Germany buzz@marvin.isdn.cs.TU-Berlin.DE (_)/ (_)
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From: a5qqc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (Hong Hsu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: setup modem
Date: 22 Jun 1995 05:38:21 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center
Message-ID: <3savkd$25eg@news.cuny.edu>
Hi, All:
Does someone know how to set up modem for NextStep 3.2 on Intel machine?
I have a package called kermit.app but need help to set up modem.
Thank you in advance.
Hong
vhong@puma.cs.qc.edu
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 22 Jun 1995 10:06:23 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <3sb89v$9i2@gjalp.ifi.uio.no>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel>
<3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s6rrn$mul@www.its.com>
<3s8ttb$a8k@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s9nto$jf0@www.its.com>
In-reply-to: chuck@its.com's message of 21 Jun 1995 18:20:40 GMT
>>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Swiger <chuck@its.com> writes:
Chuck> Well, I agree with you that it would be nice if NS provided an
Chuck> alternative input method for handicapped or disabled people.
Chuck> However, it simply may not be cost-effective for NeXT to
Chuck> provide. Remember that NEXTSTEP is not and has never been
Chuck> intended as a "mass-market" operating system. (*)
I wasn't refering to handicapped people (my english isn't that good so
I didn't find the correct word), I was refering to ligament
inflammation in the arm (is that the correct word to use?) caused by
the use of mouse. I am sure there can be dug up a scientific report
about this but never mind that. Consider my posting as a subjectiv
opinion and contribution to the discussion.
By the way, will this discussion lead to anything; will anyone at Next
read this?
Arne
--
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Ma.S student at the University of Oslo, Norway
Email: arneha@ifi.uio.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: martin@rat.se
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Message-ID: <DAKEnE.5LC@rat.se>
Sender: martin@rat.se (Martin Wennerberg)
Organization: Research & Trade, AB.
References: <3s8ttb$a8k@gjalp.ifi.uio.no>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 08:09:13 GMT
I've been told by a NeXT employee that they are looking at Win-95 for
inspiration for the new UI. I almost started crying.
/Martin
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandra fetch speed
Date: 22 Jun 1995 06:03:41 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3sb13t$6gr@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Is there a way to speed up the rate at which Alexandra fetches news
articles? NewsGrazer, although it's totally unreliable, seemed faster once it
initially fetched the subscribed newsgroups' articles. With Alexandra not only
is it slow to start but when I change newsgroups it takes a long time to fetch
those articles even if there are only 3 unread ones! Something odd. This is
over a v.32bis modem so I don't expect immediate responses, but surely it
can't be this slow. Any help would be appreciated...Philip
--
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LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: sappenz@pinfo100 (Soeren Appenzeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: softPC
Date: 22 Jun 1995 13:34:52 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni Mannheim
Message-ID: <3sbrhs$p4s@trumpet.uni-mannheim.de>
Does anybody knows where I can get the latest information about SoftPC
for NeXTStep ?
Thanks,
Soeren Appenzeller.
From: mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTTime (what is it?)
Date: 20 Jun 1995 05:51:19 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3s5nkn$6uo@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hallo,
could someone give me a brief description of the functionality of NeXTTime
(readme-file). Can it play avi-files or other video-formats? Any pointers
to demo-ftp-sites, price lists etc. are welcome.
Thanks in advance
--
___________________________________________________________
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Medical Informatics Fax. (+49) 06131 17 29 68
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik
und Dokumentation, Universitaetskliniken Mainz
55101 Mainz, Germany
From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 22 Jun 1995 11:44:45 -0400
Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
Message-ID: <3sc35d$cq2@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
References: <3s8ttb$a8k@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <DAKEnE.5LC@rat.se>
In article <DAKEnE.5LC@rat.se>, martin@rat.se wrote:
> I've been told by a NeXT employee that they are looking at Win-95 for
> inspiration for the new UI. I almost started crying.
Well, that would be ironic, considering how much the Win95 UI stole from
NEXTSTEP...
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From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 22 Jun 1995 15:45:20 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <3sc36g$bel@www.its.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s6rrn$mul@www.its.com> <3s8ttb$a8k@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <DAJE9H.sD@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Someone (root@whereever) wrote:
> Oh they'll say that they've studied it and probably dig up a test
> audience of weirdos whose nervous systems are somehow defective in
> such a way that their output bandwidth is low enough to start with
> that letting go of the keyboard to grab the mouse frequently doesn't
> make much of a difference.
Hmm. Human reaction time to a stimulus is around 100 ms. It takes ~200ms to start
typing, and one may assume around 50ms per key thereafter (but this varies depending
on the typing skill of the person in question, and how much one is typing at a time). It
takes around 750ms to switch from mouse to keyboard (or back), but you can do
graphical selections *much* faster with the mouse than with the keyboard.
It's certainly true that switching between the keyboard and the mouse very often is a big
time-lose, but I can't think of many common circumstances where you would have to do
so very often.
I typically develop and debug under emacs unless I feel some need to go graphical with
Edit.
-Chuck
--
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Techology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+--------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: 22 Jun 1995 11:55:39 -0400
Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
Message-ID: <3sc3pr$dsv@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
References: <3rt0ak$jsq@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <3rv97a$pjb@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <3s7395$p76@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> <3s9qjg$7sn@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3s9qjg$7sn@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) wrote:
> Not that this matters now, but I probably wasn't clear with my original
> question. What I want is not a port to the NEXTSTEP GUI, but rather just
> another X port for use with Cub'X and Co-Xist. Should be as easy as the
> Ultrix port, and it wuold give us mission-critical security for our
> mission-critical workstations. (As an alternative, I wouldn't mind is OmniWeb
> added the encryptions features the NetScape has now.)
Well, if you REALLY want it bad, the Netscape FAQ says:
"We will consider creating a customized version of the Netscape Navigator
for contracts of $500,000 and above."
:)
Otherwise, too bad. I really doubt they'd to an X port to NS.. the NS
market is small enough. The number of NS+X users is miniscule. They
won't even do Ultrix..
In terms of security, not sure which of the competing standards are
going to win. Looks like SSL vs. S-HTTP. Might want to wait a bit to
see who comes out on top. Actually, no reason why both couldn't be
supported.. you should see if the OmniWeb guys are working on it.
> I asked Netscape and got a response that they were considering a number of
> simple ports (possibly Ultrix as well), but that they probably wouldn't
> happen since resources are being devoted instead to the next major release.
Heck, it would probably only take one guy. Wouldn't even take very
long, if their code is reasonably portable (which it probably is, since
they have so many X ports.)
But no, instead they're concentrating their resources toward such things
as their special Win95 Netscape 1.2 release. Allow me to quote from
http://home.netscape.com/newsref/pr/newsrelease30.html:
* Windows 95 interface support including:
- Drag-and-drop URLs
- Support for Windows 95 native dialog boxes such as "Save" and
"Print"
* Windows 95 feature integration including Internet Shortcuts, which enable
users to create icons to represent Internet URLs. When a shortcut is
double-clicked, Netscape Navigator launches to display the URL. Shortcuts
can be placed on the desktop or inside folders and directories, or can be
embedded as mail objects.
* Enhanced Bookmarks interface that provides drag and drop capabilities
within a hierarchical folder-based interface. The interface will make it
even easier for users to create and maintain a directory of their favorite
Internet sites.
* New interface for FTP downloads that provides increased feedback to
users.
Can we say, "Been there, done that"??
I can entertain myself for hours with support for "Save" dialog boxes.
But that aside, it's good that they're devoting a lot of effort towards
their next major release. I really want to see Java support..
(That is, if I could run Netscape. I'll probably be running it off
a Linux box and sending the window over to Cub'X..)
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From: chin@clark.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: softPC
Date: 22 Jun 1995 17:50:34 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3scaha$9i7@clarknet.clark.net>
References: <3sbrhs$p4s@trumpet.uni-mannheim.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
sappenz@pinfo100 (Soeren Appenzeller) wrote:
> Does anybody knows where I can get the latest information about SoftPC
> for NeXTStep ?
Try Insignia Solution's WWW site at:
http://www.insignia.com/
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Message-ID: <1995Jun22.103105.45023@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@woodstock (Robert Frank)
Date: 22 Jun 95 10:31:05 MET
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <DABL1o.FBs@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) wrote:
[...]
>Finally, I would like to autolaunch PrintManager if only it would hide
>on autolaunch. One needs "inatant" access to the PrintManager to kill
>a print job that is "screwed up" in some way. Also, Webster needs to
>support hide on autolaunch.
>I hope you agree -- especially S.J. ;-)
> Tim
>--
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> |Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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Hide on AutoLaunch is something EVERY application MUST have as either a preference switch or just 'built-in'.
It is, unfortunately, something each programmer must take care of.
-Robert
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Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15
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From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Search Engines on the WEB
Date: 20 Jun 95 16:39:45 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.803666385@coricopat.igd.fhg.de>
References: <3rjhhb$9vb@nuscc.nus.sg>
gurpalsi@iscs.nus.sg (Gurpal Singh) writes:
>Could you please send ideas or information about search engines, more specifically, ideas for the design for an `ideal' as well as user-friendly searcher and indexer.....
Well, the ICE extension available from my homepage is very very easy to
install, and works reasonably fast. Whats more, it's free :-)
yours,
Chris
--
"I ride tandem with a random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Opinions: OpenWrite vs. Pages vs. WriteUp?
Message-ID: <jpanicoDAL83p.HAF@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 18:45:24 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom20.netcom.com
Hi,
I know this thread was raging for a while in this group, but I didn't
follow it then, and now my reader now longer has access to it.
Is this group archived somewhere? Could someone summarize the outcome of
the last thread?
Thanks.
--
Joe Panico
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Oh Help! Next WriteNow -> Mac WriteNow
Date: 22 Jun 1995 19:13:06 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3scfc2$4bu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3sa4kl$8ml@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
In article <3sa4kl$8ml@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Joanne Riley <jriley@jhu.edu> writes:
>I admit it - I'm beat! I can't for the life of me figure this
>one out. The problem:
>
>I have some WriteNow files, created on a NeXT. I'm trying to
>get them to a Mac. They are written in French and so have
>diacritical marks. I can call them up in Mac WP just fine,
>but there's a blank space where every accented letter should
>be.
>
>Is there ANYTHING I can do to remedy this? I would much much
>prefer a solution that could be batch applied - we're talking
>about 11 mg worth of files, in many many subdirectories - I
>don't wanna have to deal with them one-by-one if avoidable!
>
>Any suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciate. Thanks.
>--Joanne
I think you've been had just as I was once. Thinking naturally that Writenow on
the NeXT was in some way vaguely (hopefully more so) connected with its Mac
counterpart, and finding myself thrust into possession of a Mac for home use,
I bought Writenow for it. Bad move. After phoning the company that sold
me the Mac version, I found out that it had *nothing* whatsoever to do with
its NeXT namesake, and I was out of luck for any sort of nontrivial file
transfers, suhc as those involving special fonts, etc.
An idiotic mistake I shall try to avoid again.....
My guess is you're out of luck.
Lones
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From: yackd@xmission.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra fetch speed
Date: 22 Jun 1995 18:52:58 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3sce6a$kek@news.xmission.com>
References: <3sb13t$6gr@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote:
> [...] With Alexandra [...] when I
> change newsgroups it takes a long time to fetch those articles
> even if there are only 3 unread ones! Something odd.
It fetches titles for all the previously read articles still on the
server as well as the unread ones. I wish this fetch could be
delayed--ie, just fetch the unread titles. If I then move the
pop-up to show *all* headers, it will fetch the rest of them. Or
even cache the headers it has fetched in a local area (it already
has ~/Library/Alexandra), so it doesn't have to re-fetch them
again and then expire the cache entries after an appropriate
amount of time. Of course, local caching should be a preference.
It should aloow allow articles to be cached for a user settable
time (while in that group at least so that you can quickly return
to the article, but perhaps for the whole session, or on disk
between sessions). Some caching options would really allow
Alexandra to *fly*. Well, it isn't even at 1.0 yet, and source is
available, so...
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
yackd@xmission.com
NOT don@darth.byu.edu -- it has gone away!
From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little bugger 'sendmail -q' does not work for users...
Date: 21 Jun 1995 14:15:47 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <3s99ij$fen@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <3rv4pg$n77@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki) wrote:
>It seems that only root can do sendmail -q on my machine. Everyone else gets
>Permission denied.
What's even weirder (and more useless) is that when I make a suid root
shellscript (on my home machine with no untrusted users) which calls sendmail
this way, it still does not work. You have to be REALLY root...
And when I invoke it from my PNI startup script (the place where you make some
noise to indicate that the link is up), the whole NeXT (I assume lookupd) hangs
because it cannot find the mailhost yet. A liitle sleeping does not help.
Anybody knows a workaround?
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh,
Lorentz Instituite for Theoretical Physics
Leiden University
gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
From: cpayne@optical (Carl Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scanner s/w for NS??
Date: 22 Jun 1995 21:19:30 GMT
Organization: Fibernet! Satisfy the need for speed
Message-ID: <3scmp2$3pf@optical.fiber.net>
Where can I find software to operate a SCSI scanner on a Cube
running 3.3 ?? Demo, commercial, shareware, what's out there?
I thought one of "the" cds had Scan-somethingoranother on it,
but it was not to be.
Ideas?
--
Carl Payne
V.P., Technical Services
Fibernet Corporation
cpayne@fiber.net <--NeXTMAIL, MIME, ASCII all OK
From: yackd@xmission.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 22 Jun 1995 20:59:00 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3sclik$r57@news.xmission.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <DABL1o.FBs@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> <1995Jun22.103105.45023@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
frank@woodstock (Robert Frank) wrote:
> Hide on AutoLaunch is something EVERY application MUST have as
> either a preference switch or just 'built-in'.
> It is, unfortunately, something each programmer must take care of.
OK, I'll put it in the next MiscKit. It is pretty easy to
implement. And it's all those little touches that make apps that
much nicer. Of course, this doesn't help apps that don't use the
MiscKit, _but_ at least the code would be readily available...
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
yackd@xmission.com
NOT don@darth.byu.edu -- it has gone away!
From: Joe Freeman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SGML Browser
Date: 22 Jun 1995 02:07:43 GMT
Organization: US Net
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3saj9g$dg3@news.us.net>
References: <DAJAyy.B3z@califhistsoc.org>
What is an SBML browser. I mean what functionallity does it provide?
In article <DAJAyy.B3z@califhistsoc.org> rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert
MacKimmie) writes:
> In article <3s8p2h$3nv@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> mandel@calefon
> (Luis Mandel) writes:
> > I would like to know if it is available any SGML browser for NeXT.
> >
>
> Sure would be nice if there were...
>
> RM@califhistsoc.org
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting company.
Now located in MD
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
From: mikef@flood.xnet.com (Mike Fleming)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 22 Jun 1995 22:37:20 GMT
Organization: XNet - A Full Service Internet Provider - (708) 983-6064
Message-ID: <3scrb0$gnh@flood.xnet.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu>
Joe Reiss (jreiss@vt.edu) wrote:
: >7) Double-click, or select, characters (etc) with one mouse button and
: >insert them somewhere else with a click of another button. In other words, do
: >a copy/paste without having to a) go into edit in the menu, b) "copy",
: >c) choose your insertion place and then d) "paste". Too much hassle for a
: >copy/paste job. The above desirable feature already works on other, "less
: >sophisticated", systems ! Why not on NS ?
: Um, just one word, IMHO...
: ICK!
I have to agree, such a "feature" would suck. Not only would it suck,
but it would break NeXTstep. At the risk of bringing out the X holy war
(and things like auto-focus), let me point out a few reasons why this would
be an extremely horrible idea:
o As a result of this "feature", one can only select ONE portion
of text on ANY window on the screen with X. I don't think that
selecting something in another application--perhaps to perform
an operation that isn't even related to the clipboard--should
deselect eveything else in every other application.
o In X, this operation only works with text, resulting in a
non-uniform user interface. Many X users only ever use
xterms, so they never select any non-text object...so this
doesn't bother them. Under NeXTstep, it is VERY common to
cut-and-paste items that aren't text between applications.
o As a GUI, NeXTstep works with either one or two-button mice
While I've never seen a NeXTstep box with a one button mouse,
I certainly as HELL see NeXT boxes with only two button mice.
Sounds like this feature would be limited to only a portion
of the userbase. Unless you want to suggest one of those ugly
"hold-both-buttons-down" hacks that some X's do on Intel boxes.
Before you go looking at X for GUI ideas, please understand that X
was NOT designed well at all. It was designed to fulfill some UNIX
hackers' dreams of having multible terminal windows open. Many
aspects of its design are flawed beyond repair.
And yes, I use X every day at work. Good thing I can choose what to
use at home!
Mike Fleming
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Oh Help! Next WriteNow -> Mac WriteNow
Date: 22 Jun 1995 21:33:58 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3scnk6$4sd@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3scfc2$4bu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Lones A Smith writes
> In article <3sa4kl$8ml@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Joanne Riley
<jriley@jhu.edu> writes:
> >I admit it - I'm beat! I can't for the life of me figure this
> >one out. The problem:
> >
> >I have some WriteNow files, created on a NeXT. I'm trying to
> >get them to a Mac. They are written in French and so have
> >diacritical marks. I can call them up in Mac WP just fine,
> >but there's a blank space where every accented letter should
> >be.
> >
> >Is there ANYTHING I can do to remedy this? I would much much
> >prefer a solution that could be batch applied - we're talking
> >about 11 mg worth of files, in many many subdirectories - I
> >don't wanna have to deal with them one-by-one if avoidable!
> >
>
> I think you've been had just as I was once. Thinking naturally that
> Writenow on the NeXT was in some way vaguely (hopefully more so)
> connected with its Mac counterpart, and finding myself thrust into
> possession of a Mac for home use, I bought Writenow for it. Bad move.
> After phoning the company that sold me the Mac version, I found out
> that it had *nothing* whatsoever to do with its NeXT namesake, and I
> was out of luck for any sort of nontrivial file transfers, suhc as
> those involving special fonts, etc.
>
> My guess is you're out of luck.
Here's the full story, as I know it. WriteNow is a product of T/Maker.
NeXT bought the rights to a Motorola 68K assembler version of it,
running on original NeXT hardware. At some point NeXT transferred the
development rights to AppSoft, which folded about two years ago.
The NeXT version of WriteNow uses the 2.0 file format, which is no longer
in common usage on Mac. But the problem with foreign language characters
is the the NeXT and Mac font encoding vectors do not match. That's why
characters with diacriticals do not make it out the other side.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Honey, there're few programming
Gaffer/Best Boy/Key Grip | problems that can't be solved
Anderson Financial Systems | with duct tape." -- 'Father' Duke
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | (paraphrased), Doonesbury, 2/17/95
From: araftis@phoenix.csc.calpoly.edu (Alex John Raftis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NoteAbility
Date: 22 Jun 1995 17:20:31 -0700
Organization: Cal Poly, State University
Message-ID: <3sd1cf$rd@phoenix.csc.calpoly.edu>
The other day, while looking for a music notation program for the NeXT,
I came accross NoteAbility. While the program had some problems,
(Ie, rough UI and Beta stability problems), I found that it did what I
needed. Thus far, I haven't found anything else that does the same job as
well.
The problem occurred when I tried to contact Ciusa. It seems that they
have folded, as all their contact addresses bounce or have been frozen.
So, I was wondering if anyone knew of the availability of NoteAbility.
I don't care if it's still Beta or not, since it was sufficiently
functional for me. I may, depending on the price, also be willing to
buy a used copy.
Any help or pointers would be appreciated,
Thanks in advance,
Alex Raftis
---
alex@lore.acs.calpoly.edu
From: robin@batcave.pencom.com (Robin D Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 23 Jun 1995 00:20:38 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3sd1cm$vi7@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <DABL1o.FBs@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) wrote:
: The main improvement I would like to see is a variation on the Common Desktop
: Environment (CDE) multi-desktop control. In a NeXT version there would be,
: at a minimum, a programmer desktop (PDT) and a user desktop (UDT). As one
: switched from one to the other, the icon doc would change and new apps would
: autolaunch, as though a new login had occurred. The workspace manager would
: remember the currently active desktop selection on logout.
I definately agree there needs to be some-sort of virtual screen support. This
_should_ be implemented through a _combination_ of scrolling screen regions (hit
the edge of the screen with your mouse for a "user defined delay" and then it scrolls
in that direction until you move the mouse off the edge), and "virtual desktops" (a
window on your screen allows you to quickly switch to a new "desktop"). I like the
idea of an additional Dock on each virtual desktop, with it's own autolauch
definitions! This would also allow for the "su -" capability I desire in the WM.app.
You could even assign different UID's to each desktop (with the requirement to
pass a login panel on each), providing that user's "default" environment when you
connect to them. Alternately, you could perform a simple "su" which only changes
your UID -- but keeps _your_ environment intact.
The other thing I'd like to see is the ability to "su" from the FileViewer. It should
allow me to pop a new viewer with a different UID (which should be identified in the
title-bar of the viewer). Then I could launch apps from that FileViewer as though I
were that user...
: I would also like to have the ability to apply spellchecker to any selected
: text area; i.e. the clipboard would now support spellchecking.
You could "hack" this capability with TickleServices now -- but I understand that you
don't want to be "wishing" for "hacks"... You want them "builtin" and integrated into
the total environment.
: Finally, I would like to autolaunch PrintManager if only it would hide
: on autolaunch. One needs "inatant" access to the PrintManager to kill
: a print job that is "screwed up" in some way. Also, Webster needs to
: support hide on autolaunch.
I agree!
: I hope you agree -- especially S.J. ;-)
Alas, I can't speak for SJ... Or anyone at NeXT for that matter...
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From: jchaffee@reis2.alleg.edu (Jim Chaffee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: greek keyboad converter
Date: 21 Jun 1995 13:27:44 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <3s96og$ccm@mustang.alleg.edu>
Does anyone know of a greek keyboard converter for the NeXT. I have a new
faculty member coming on board that does a lot of work with the classics
and could use something like this.
Thanks
Jim
--
Jim Chaffee, Educational Support Specialist
Educational Computing Services
Allegheny College, Meadville, PA 16335
(814)332-2755
E-Mail: jchaffee@alleg.edu
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger)
Newsgroups: su.computers.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: reversing page printing order
Date: 23 Jun 1995 03:59:48 GMT
Organization: Center for Advanced Medical Informatics at Stanford
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sde7k$3cs@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Very simple question: I got a new printer (an old HP LaserJet II) for my
NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2 system, and I'm using the demo versions of JetPilot or
Dots to print to it. By default, both print pages in reverse order (last page
to first page). Is there any way to change the configuration of the printer
so that pages come out first page first by default (when printing from both
the print panels and lpr)?
(The LaserJet II prints pages face down, so you want them to print first to
last.)
Even the pslpr command that I found doesn't seem to correctly reverse them.
But even if it did, that wouldn't be a solution for the print panels.
-Karl
From: shenning@leibniz (Shawn P. Henning)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: XYZ Modem (sz/rz specifically)
Date: 23 Jun 1995 03:56:52 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sde24$nh0@nexus.uiowa.edu>
Does anybody know if there is a NeXT port of the XYZ modem
programs. I have gotten the distribution and tried make bsd (the
closest thing to NeXT), but have gotten some weird errors and I
really don't have time to debug and fix the problem.
It may just be that I need the proper compiler flags, but I am not
sure. I tried (out of foolish hope) to do a "make systype" with all
the other systems supported, but this didn't work either.
Thanks.
[ Shawn P. Henning ][ Phone: ]
[ Cornell College, Box 563 ][ 319.895.8940 ]
[ 600 1st Street West ][ Maildrop: ]
[ Mount Vernon, IA 52314 ][ shenning@cornell-iowa.edu ]
[_______http://wwwcsc.Cornell-Iowa.edu/~shenning/_______]
--
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[ Cornell College, Box 563 ][ 319.895.8940 ]
[ 600 1st Street West ][ Maildrop: ]
[ Mount Vernon, IA 52314 ][ shenning@cornell-iowa.edu ]
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From: brlepel@america (Brian Richard Lepel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GDB or ProjectBuilder gooey interface
Date: 23 Jun 1995 14:28:54 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Regional Network (MRNet)
Message-ID: <3sej36$5hc@news.mr.net>
I was wondering if anyone out there has heard of a gooey graphical
window interface for the GDB debugger or the ProjectBuilder.app for
NeXTStep workstations. If so, PLEASE let me know. Thank you.
From: michael@bach (Michael Pizolato)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 23 Jun 1995 14:39:40 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3sejnc$id@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s3ppa$2j1m@ftp.univie.ac.at>
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cikan@anne.par.univie.ac.at (Edwin Cikan) wrote:
:arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hĺrseth) wrote:
::I suppose its not relevant to the question, but NS should be
::X-compatible.
:Yes. It should include an X-Server, so it will be easier to
:integrate NeXTSTEP into an existing UNIX-Network.
Sorry, I disagree. X must die.
Michael
From: sbender@harmony-ds.com (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDPlayer not working for one user
Date: 23 Jun 1995 14:51:10 GMT
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
Message-ID: <3sekcu$koj@news1.digex.net>
When logged in as one certain user, the CDPlayer does not work. For any other
user it works fine. I get this message on the console:
Jun 23 10:44:51 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio
cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer
Anyone have any clues?
Thanks,
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From: michael@bach (Michael Pizolato)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 23 Jun 1995 14:56:08 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3sekm8$id@shelob.afs.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s4r7k$16uk@digdug.pencom.com> <3s6r62$mul@www.its.com> <3s6shn$pqk@vodka.intele.net>
mike@child (Michael Emmel) wrote:
:I think nexstep should ship with a 21 inch moninter and 64 megs
:of ram : )
Ah, now we're getting somewhere. As long as it doesn't impact the
price ;-).
Michael
--
Michael Pizolato, CTO
Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: EPS NeXT files on Macintosh
Date: 23 Jun 1995 05:17:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3sdioc$eq3@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org>
In article <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org>,
Sam Przyswa <sam@musical.fdn.org> wrote:
> I have to transfer EPS NeXT files to Macintosh (Adobe Illustrator
>and AppSoftDraw) I have tried to convert the text file (CR/LF) but the
>PostScript Mac's tools can't read my EPS file because unknowed commands.
>
> Does anyone on the net have some experiences about NeXT/Mac EPS
>files tranfer ?
>
When I last asked this question, Larry was kind enough to send me
the following. I have not had a chance to try it out.
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 95 16:41:12
From: "lsr@taligent.com"
Subject: Re: Next EPS files to Mac Adobe PhotoShop 3.0
To: jerry
In article <3nk6ec$lqh@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
(Jerry Weiss) wrote:
>Is there any way to make Next EPSF 2.0 files readable by
>Mac Adobe Photoshop 3.0. I tired a few things, including
Photoshop can only read Illustrator EPS files. To convert arbitrary EPS
files into Illustrator format, you can try a utility ps2ai.ps that ships
with Ghostscript 3.x.
This utility is a short Postscript program. You append your EPS file to
it and run the combination through a Postscript interpreter. It
intercepts all the drawing calls and output the proper Illustrator codes.
--
Larry Rosenstein
Taligent, Inc.
lsr@taligent.com
--
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j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Changing mouse pointer look?
Date: 23 Jun 1995 16:44:38 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <3ser1m$g4a@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <3s568u$bfa@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <3sedvl$1nv@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
dlehn@sps1.phys.vt.edu (David Lehn) wrote:
[ ]
> Edit this to your preference:
How? What exactly does one have to do? Also, something odd with this
particular one as it doesn't work on my Intel setup. Two others in a similar
vein work.
[ ]
--
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger)
Newsgroups: su.computers.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: reversing page printing order
Date: 23 Jun 1995 16:47:10 GMT
Organization: Center for Advanced Medical Informatics at Stanford
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ser6e$hqs@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3sde7k$3cs@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3sde7k$3cs@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) writes:
>Dots to print to it. By default, both print pages in reverse order (last page
>to first page). Is there any way to change the configuration of the printer
>so that pages come out first page first by default (when printing from both
>the print panels and lpr)?
The JetPilot people sent me mail today (I had e-mailed them the question
to). To answer my own question, I just didn't know enough about ppd files.
Basically, you change the setting in the appropriate ppd file for the
printer in question. The ppd files can be found in
/LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/ . (Or whatever language.) The
appropriate field is "DefaultOutputOrder" which can be either "Reversed" or
"Normal".
-Karl
From: Paul Kim <trout@rahul.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 23 Jun 1995 18:29:01 GMT
Organization: a2i network
Message-ID: <3sf15d$l93@hustle.rahul.net>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3ris5v$1g6@ixc.ixc.net> <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de>
NNTP-Posting-User: trout
In article <DAFytq.2qL@gurke.ping.de>,
Constantin Szallies <tini@gurke.ping.de> wrote:
>>From: pgriffin@anole (Paul A Griffin)
>
>Does anyone know how to get the domainname by a system call?
>Alexandra right now uses "getdomainname" to compose the "From" header,
>but this does not work if the name was not set with "setdomainname" (see
>above).
>--
><-------------------------------------------------------------->
>| Constantin Szallies ||| tini@gurke.ping.de |
>| Emil Figge 7 44227 Dortmund (o o) Tel: 0231/7519681 |
><------------------------------oOo--(_)--oOo------------------->
getdomainname (and /bin/domainname) only make sense if you are running yp,
which probably is not the case in most NS systems.
To get the definitive host/domain name, you should go through DNS (man
gethostbyname) or, the less optimal solution, IMHO, through NetInfo.
Another solution would be to muck about in the sendmail.cf file. Since this
is for a 'From:' line, this would make some sense since the host may be
masquerading (which would not show up if you grabbed the name via DNS).
You can scan for the M macro ('DM') or, if it can't be found, the j macro
('Dj'). Of course, if neither can be found, you will still have to go
through DNS.
Hope this helps more than it confuses.
paul kim
trout@rahul.net
trout@denizen.com
--
Paul Kim <trout@rahul.net>
From: robin@batcave.pencom.com (Robin D Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 23 Jun 1995 22:55:27 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3sfgov$147k@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu> <3scrb0$gnh@flood.xnet.com>
mikef@flood.xnet.com (Mike Fleming) wrote:
: Joe Reiss (jreiss@vt.edu) wrote:
: : >7) Double-click, or select, characters (etc) with one mouse button and
: : >insert them somewhere else with a click of another button. In other words, do
: : >a copy/paste without having to a) go into edit in the menu, b) "copy",
: : >c) choose your insertion place and then d) "paste". Too much hassle for a
: : >copy/paste job. The above desirable feature already works on other, "less
: : >sophisticated", systems ! Why not on NS ?
: : Um, just one word, IMHO...
: : ICK!
: I have to agree, such a "feature" would suck. Not only would it suck,
: but it would break NeXTstep. At the risk of bringing out the X holy war
: (and things like auto-focus), let me point out a few reasons why this would
: be an extremely horrible idea:
If the userbase defines NEXTSTEP, then it doesn't break it. Let's not get into a war
about what features make "NEXTSTEP" unique and therefore better... If a significant
number of people prefer a given feature, then it should be an option -- period.
: o As a result of this "feature", one can only select ONE portion
: of text on ANY window on the screen with X. I don't think that
: selecting something in another application--perhaps to perform
: an operation that isn't even related to the clipboard--should
: deselect eveything else in every other application.
You are making the assumption that this particular limitation is (for some reason)
"required". It is not. There is _no_ reason why the "mouse-up" even after a drag
operation couldn't simple perform the same code as the "COMMAND-C"
operation.
: o In X, this operation only works with text, resulting in a
: non-uniform user interface. Many X users only ever use
: xterms, so they never select any non-text object...so this
: doesn't bother them. Under NeXTstep, it is VERY common to
: cut-and-paste items that aren't text between applications.
Again, there is _no_reason_ to limit us to the X implementation. In fact, there is no
reason to _disable_ the normal cut/paste operation in order to enable this option.
No one is suggesting a complete _replacement_ of the current operation -- this is
simply an addition to it.
: o As a GUI, NeXTstep works with either one or two-button mice
: While I've never seen a NeXTstep box with a one button mouse,
: I certainly as HELL see NeXT boxes with only two button mice.
: Sounds like this feature would be limited to only a portion
: of the userbase. Unless you want to suggest one of those ugly
: "hold-both-buttons-down" hacks that some X's do on Intel boxes.
Again, there is no reason to limit ourselves to X conventions. For people with only
one button -- this simply wouldn't be a viable option. For people with only two
buttons, you could make it "both buttons = menu", and "button2 = paste". There are
numerous other possibilities -- we just haven't spent too much time thinking about it
yet... BTW, I use co-Xist within NEXTSTEP _ALL_THE_TIME_... I have few
problems switching back-and-forth between both systems. I like each for different
reasons. My preference would be to enable _both_ options.
: Before you go looking at X for GUI ideas, please understand that X
: was NOT designed well at all. It was designed to fulfill some UNIX
: hackers' dreams of having multible terminal windows open. Many
: aspects of its design are flawed beyond repair.
BS. There are _many_ useful features in X (more specifically within the various
X-based window managers) that are more advanced than NEXTSTEP. There is no
reason to throw out the baby with the bath water. We can easily discern the
_useful_ (and user preferred) features of X systems, and just build them into our
dream system.
: And yes, I use X every day at work. Good thing I can choose what to
: use at home!
I use NEXTSTEP, X, _AND_ Windows. I can even find features in Window's that I
like (even though it makes me sick to admit it!)...
--
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*** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! ***
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701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy
Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
(512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: MPEG sound player
Date: 23 Jun 1995 10:06:34 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <3se3na$qa8@mailer.york.ac.uk>
References: <3rq2u1$c1r@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
seanl@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) writes:
> Does anyone know of a NS app that will read MPEG sound files?
> I'm not interested in MPEG video, just the sound files. Source
> code would be great too--I might even include it in a new version
> of Resound.
Grab maplay off IUMA - I did a port to the NeXT of this. Its
somewhere on iuma.com, not sure where exactly. If you can't fint it
there then grab a copy from maekong.ohm.york.ac.uk
in pub/pete - I just tarred up my old source directory and out it
there for you.
-bat.
From: adam@howland (Adam Krolnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 20 Jun 1995 16:35:15 GMT
Organization: FirePower Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <3s6tc3$ku7@enquirer.FirePower.COM>
References: <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu>
How about:
1. Faster workspace: It is still much faster to access files by typing
their path into the edit browser.
2. Aliases for docked icons. When you put an icon on the workspace dock,
it takes the last part of the path. This may be the same for several
directories in an organized tree. How about allowing the user to specify
an alias to be displayed instead. Eg. for directories of the form
/home/<user>/workArea, all docked icons display as 'workArea'. An alias
would allow me to specify '<user>.work'
3. Built-in services expander (such as Tickle Services)
4. Ability to reorganize services list. I use a few services all the time,
and the rest some of the time. Instead of only giving me a command key
equivalent (which doesn't work much because there aren't many left and
many are already taken by other programs) how about allowing me to
reorganize the services hierarchy. I want to move services/mail/selection
to services/<>. I want to move services/omniweb/open URL to services<>.
Being able to reorganize this would make it much faster for each user.
5. Link workspace and terminal windows. I would love to have a workspacce
window that follows my terminal $cwd path (also want the $cwd displayed as
the terminal title). Then I could switch to the workspace for working with
files and use the terminal for command line programs. Also allow changes
in the workspace place to be reflected in the terminal window.
6. Environment setup. You can't run a script that you can from a terminal
window because the workspace doesn't setup the exe path or other
environment things you place in a shell init function.
But then this is all probably wasted as it seems NeXT is moving toward
windows stuff and away from NeXTStep unix ware.
---
Adam Krolnik
Design Verification Engineer
FirePower Systems, Inc.
Menlo Park, CA. 94025
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Question: new stty for black NeXT exists ?
Date: 23 Jun 1995 20:43:01 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <95Jun23.134052@EE.Stanford.EDU>
It seems that the NeXT version of stty doesn't accept pass8
option. I need this to display foreign characters.
Is there any new version of stty (in source or binary form)
available anywhere ?
Thanks in advance.
--- Sang Ju Park
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: EPS NeXT files on Macintosh
Message-ID: <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 12:20:24 GMT
I have to transfer EPS NeXT files to Macintosh (Adobe Illustrator
and AppSoftDraw) I have tried to convert the text file (CR/LF) but the
PostScript Mac's tools can't read my EPS file because unknowed commands.
Does anyone on the net have some experiences about NeXT/Mac EPS
files tranfer ?
THanks in advance.
Sam
---
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Sam Przyswa << Rock'n Jazz BBS >>
E-Mail: sam@musical.fdn.org Paris FidoNet: 2:320/102
--<NeXTmail accepted 10Ko max>-- France Music & Midi BBS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: dlehn@sps1.phys.vt.edu (David Lehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Changing mouse pointer look?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 23 Jun 1995 13:01:40 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sedvl$1nv@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <3s568u$bfa@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Philip McDunnough (philip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know how to do this?
Edit this to your preference:
---<snip>---
#!/local/bin/perl
#
# everything between here and __END__ just starts pft and pipes
# everything after the __END__ into pft. Obviously, this can be
# used to spew any customizations you want at pft (and, hence, the
# windowserver). if you use this to do other cool things to the
# window server, please send me (<bbum@friday.com>) your hacquage.
# If I receive some cool hacquage, I will compile a hacquage-package
# and submit to the net (complete w/credits, docs, and all that
# rot).
#
# have a nice day.
#
# b.bum
# <bbum@friday.com>
# open PFT -- die if we can't
open (PFT, "| /usr/bin/pft") ||
die "could not open /usr/bin/pft";
# write everything after the __END__ to pft
while (<DATA>) { print PFT; }
# close pft
close (PFT);
# everything after the __END__ is available on <DATA>; 'tis perl
# magic.
__END__
%!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-1.2
%%Creator: (a postscript god @next.com)
%%Title: (cursortest.eps)
%%CreationDate: (19/3/92) (3:00 PM)
%%BoundingBox:0 0 20 20
%%
%% Another stupid EPS trick.
%%
%%EndComments
0 0 16 16 Retained window
dup windowdeviceround
gsave
16 16 scale
16 16 4
[16 0 0 -16 0 16]
{<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>} false 3 alphaimage
grestore
gstate
nextdict /_NXSharedGrayAlpha get
NX_TwelveBitRGB 1 index setwindowdepthlimit
windowdeviceround
0 0 16 16 5 4 roll 0 32 Copy composite
nulldevice
termwindow
---<snip>---
---
* David Lehn * "Discover the purity of perfection, *
* dlehn@mail.vt.edu * not the perfection of purity." *
* NeXTMail welcome! * - random MTV cartoon *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
From: robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us (Robert C. Doss)
Subject: Re: Having problems install NS on Gateway P5-75
Message-ID: <DAMzvJ.DKB@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
References: <DAHLHq.HHx@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 17:42:55 GMT
Has anyone out there been able to successfully install NEXTSTEP on a
Gateway 2000 Pentium system by any means? Is it possible to install it
on a Gateway. I am seriously considering buying a Gateway 2000 Pentium
system if and *only* if it is possible to install and run NEXTSTEP.
Any response to my dilemma would be appreciated.
--
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Robert C. Doss Jr. |Internet:RobDoss@nvc.cc.ca.us|NeXT mail & MIME ok|
|Napa Valley College|Fax: (707) 253-3063 |MIME mail preferred|
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pfreling@pop.cc.nih.gov (Peter Frelinghuysen)
Subject: web browser for NS 2.0/030 cube
Message-ID: <pfreling-2306951608090001@isdb34.cc.nih.gov>
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: NIH/ISD
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 21:08:09 GMT
Looking for a web browser that will run on a 030 cube
running 2.0. Any ideas?
From: dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Doom][, and doom2.wad, not perfect together...
Date: 21 Jun 1995 08:32:07 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3s8le7$3bc@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3s4rg3$dah@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) wrote:
> Has anyone out there gotton the commercial doom2.wad file to work with the
> alpha version of Doom2.app?
> Does anyone out there have it working with either of the commercial wads?
> If so how did you get it to work?
All you need to do is copy it into the app wrapper, and rename it to that of the shareware
wad.
But it's so darned buggy that I'd rather not use it. Certainly, don't DARE try and run it
while you're doing something else in the background (like while waiting for a big file to ftp
or such). It's hung my HP drastically, such that I've had to literally pull the plug.
Also, don't mess with the control keys: you can't change them back without dwrites, or
dremoves, given that we don't know what to set them to.
That being said, I think it's great that someone has gone to the effort to get it running, and
they deserve our support.
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: honk!jan (Jan Husak)
Subject: test
Message-ID: <DAHFzu.7pA@honk.nug.ch>
Sender: jan@honk.nug.ch (Jan Husak)
Organization: Jan Husak, Aesch, SWITZERLAND
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 17:45:30 GMT
--
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
+ ,,, +
+ Jan Husak, Aesch, 4147 - SWITZERLAND (o o) +
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
+
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)-,, +
+ Jan Husak, Aesch, 4147 - SWITZERLAND (o o) +
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
---+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-OOo-----+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
+
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)-,, +
+ Jan Husak, Aesch, 4147 - SWITZERLAND (o o) +
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
---+
+ jan@honk.nug.ch (NeXTmail encouraged, MIME ok) +
+ CHBASJHU@ibmmail.com (no NeXTmail, MIME ok) +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Aaah, ein Stadtmensch! Sie denken wohl auch, dass wir ein +
+ bisschen altmodisch sind. Aaaaber vorsicht! It cool man +
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
--
+-----------------------------------------------------------+
+ ,,, +
+ Jan Husak, Aesch, 4147 - SWITZERLAND (o o) +
+ ----------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-----+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Message-ID: <1995Jun24.105231.14533@dagobah.fdn.fr>
Sender: yann@dagobah.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual
References: <3sekm8$id@shelob.afs.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 10:52:31 GMT
Following up the discussion on the keyboard-less copy/paste...
Alt-dragging the miniaturize button attaches the representation of the corresponding
file to the mouse cursor, thus allowing for a powerful and high-level GUI
function (yet it's keyboard-based, with Alt).
How about complementing the miniaturize button drag paradigm ?
(BTW, I found that a little disorienting at first... considering it
somewhat of a hack... but now, it pretty much makes sense to me, and I
start to really use it A LOT !)
Simple-dragging from that button could offer a text drag of the currently
selected text within that window (the drop would then only be available on
any Text objects).
NeXT might have intended to only use the miniaturize button as the
representation of an object with a more global scope (i.e. the window -
the file represented by the window - and not a sub-item such as text).
Then, why not add another item in the title bar ? (BTW, title bars are
often very empty... I'm sure we could use the space !).
I'm thinking about a text object representation (besides the miniaturize
button, with a design symbolizing text - see uuencode sample below) from
which you can drag the currently selected text, and to which you can drop
text for it to be pasted into the currently focused (or default) text
object. If no text object is available, then this new title bar item would
be grayed out or hidden.
The cool thing with adding a drop-zone item to the upper-left area of a
window is that it is almost ALWAYS available, even when the entire window
has been moved to the bottom-right side of the screen. Think about it;
you're composing a mail from various pieces of text present in several
other full screen applications: give the focus to the body section of your
mail compose window, position the compose window so that you can have an
easy access to this hypothetical title-bar text drop-zone (of course, the
text object should also be a drop-zone ;-), now go back to the apps from
which you need to get the text from, select text and enjoy simple
keyboard-less text drag&drop, without breaking (or at least I believe so)
NS philosophy.
my $.02.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CDPlayer not working for one user
Message-ID: <1995Jun23.110732.54546@cc.usu.edu>
From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (Michael Emmel)
Date: 23 Jun 95 11:07:32 MDT
References: <3sekcu$koj@news1.digex.net>
Distribution: world
In article <3sekcu$koj@news1.digex.net> writes:
>
> When logged in as one certain user, the CDPlayer does not work. For any
other
> user it works fine. I get this message on the console:
>
> Jun 23 10:44:51 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio
> cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer
>
> Anyone have any clues?
>
> Thanks,
>
Check ther path is all I can think of did you try open from the terminal ?
If you can then there may be a bug. I think theres a bug in it but so far
its not reapeatable.
Mike
From: bungi@bjornaer.omnigroup.com (Timothy J. Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Doom][, and doom2.wad, not perfect together...
Date: 23 Jun 1995 16:13:47 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3sfhrb$7no@bjornaer.omnigroup.com>
References: <3s4rg3$dah@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <3s8le7$3bc@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Note that the README says something to this effect -- it is alpha and it
won't play nice with the other apps, esp. if you run it as root, in which
case it will take over your entire machine. Don't try this on an NFS
server or netinfo server unless you hate everyone else in your office :)
It never hangs my sparc20 or black machines, and very rarely hangs my
white anymore, but it hangs green machines pretty frequently. Then again,
I haven't run it on green in a while, so maybe I've fixed something I was
screwing up before.
On the bright side, I've been able to put in a few hours on this over the
last couple of days and things are getting a lot better. The key panel is
all fixed up, scale = 1 works for most bit depths, removed a weird sparc
crasher bug, 32 bit sparc support is included.
I'll be releasing an alpha2 version in a couple of weeks once I get 8 bit
grayscale mode working and have a chance to look at why motorola machines
are running DoomII so slow.
dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle) writes:
>But it's so darned buggy that I'd rather not use it. Certainly, don't DARE try and run it
>while you're doing something else in the background (like while waiting for a big file to ftp
>or such). It's hung my HP drastically, such that I've had to literally pull the plug.
>Also, don't mess with the control keys: you can't change them back without dwrites, or
>dremoves, given that we don't know what to set them to.
>That being said, I think it's great that someone has gone to the effort to get it running, and
>they deserve our support.
>Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: huck@nosc.mil (Craig Huckabee)
Subject: Video Teleconferencing anyone?
Message-ID: <1995Jun24.004856.6609@nosc.mil>
Followup-To: huck@nosc.mil
Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News)
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 00:48:56 GMT
Does there exist any video teleconferencing software/hardware for black or
white hardware running NeXTStep 3.3? Anything (even alpha or beta quality
) would be appreciated....
Thanks,
Craig
From: Hugh Allan <hallan@origin.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:44:55 +0100
Message-ID: <9506240944.AA00449@origin.demon.co.uk>
In comp.sys.next.software article <DAKEnE.5LC@rat.se> you wrote:
> I've been told by a NeXT employee that they are looking at Win-95 for
> inspiration for the new UI. I almost started crying.
>
> /Martin
Well.... I do miss Windows ability to show only filenames of a certain type in
File Manager. What I would like for NeXTStep 4.0 would be an option in Edit to
select items of the same type of the object that is selected, in WorkSpace.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: Alexandra fetch speed
Message-ID: <DAnG7q.1nG@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member)
References: <3sce6a$kek@news.xmission.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 23:35:49 GMT
In article <3sce6a$kek@news.xmission.com> yackd@xmission.com writes:
> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote:
> > [...] With Alexandra [...] when I
> > change newsgroups it takes a long time to fetch those articles
> > even if there are only 3 unread ones! Something odd.
...
> between sessions). Some caching options would really allow
> Alexandra to *fly*. Well, it isn't even at 1.0 yet, and source is
> available, so...
> --
...so just change the following method inside the Newsgroup class:
- scanArticles:(id)nntpServer visibleIn:(id)articleView
{
....
oldMin=-1; oldMax=-1;
from=-1; to=-1;
j=[articleList count];
// If there is no currently loaded artivale list we should take a
look
// at the intervals we have already read...
if((delayed==TRUE)||(j==0))
{
from=max;
to=max;
for(i=0; i<[intervalList count]; i++ )
{
anInterval = [intervalList objectAt:i];
if( [anInterval upperBound]+1 < from )
from = [anInterval upperBound]+1;
}
}
....
}
... which does the trick. It is not a very cleaver solution because "show
all" will not work (I guess)...but it gets you where you want...and fast.
I guess Constantin is working on a more elegant solution but until they
have a never version you might life wiht that hack.
Aloha
Tomi
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From: gblock@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SGML Browser
Date: 22 Jun 1995 16:17:58 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3sc53m$829@uwm.edu>
References: <DAJAyy.B3z@califhistsoc.org> <3saj9g$dg3@news.us.net>
In comp.sys.next.software (<3saj9g$dg3@news.us.net>),JoeFreeman wrote:
| What is an SBML browser. I mean what functionallity does it provide?
An SGML browser would be able to view any document type for which it
had a proper "DTD", a document which "describes" what each thing in a
document means. With the HTML 3.0 DTD, an SGML browser, and a few
documents, you could use it as a WWW browser.
And I'd be interested in knowing if one already exists, for rather
specific reasons...
Greg
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From: foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NoteAbility
Date: 24 Jun 1995 15:20:43 GMT
Organization: University of Ottawa
Message-ID: <3shagb$l70@csi0.csi.UOttawa.CA>
References: <3sd1cf$rd@phoenix.csc.calpoly.edu>
Alex John Raftis (araftis@phoenix.csc.calpoly.edu) wrote:
: The other day, while looking for a music notation program for the NeXT,
: I came accross NoteAbility. While the program had some problems,
: (Ie, rough UI and Beta stability problems), I found that it did what I
: needed. Thus far, I haven't found anything else that does the same job as
: well.
A fine app, indeed!
: The problem occurred when I tried to contact Ciusa. It seems that they
: have folded, as all their contact addresses bounce or have been frozen.
Ciusa is gonzo, for about a year now, I think.
: So, I was wondering if anyone knew of the availability of NoteAbility.
: I don't care if it's still Beta or not, since it was sufficiently
: functional for me. I may, depending on the price, also be willing to
: buy a used copy.
< deletia>
: alex@lore.acs.calpoly.edu
You can cantact the author, Keith Hamel <hamel@unixg.ubc.ca>.
He is still working on it. I think its a one-person operation,
and its a side-line for him at that, so its going slowly.
It is still in beta, with improvements over the Ciusa version.
Keith will be out of town until the end of the month, I think,
so don't expect an immediate answer to your queries.
I also look forward to its completion.
Peter Foster
foster@aix1.uottawa.ca
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 21 Jun 1995 17:13:16 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sa21c$sh9@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3s4s7b$oan@news.INbe.net>
root@white (Operator) writes:
> Add a "Snapshot" item in the Workspace that will create
> a new file which remembers all open apps and documents.
> When you double-click it, it reopens everything you were
> working on. This snapshot file could be a wrapper so you
> can open it up and add links to other files you want to
> add to the snapshot.
A fantastic idea. I would only add, to have this automatically done when
logging out, or powering down. That way when you log back into your
account you dont have to bother re-opening and getting back to where you
left off on your work.
A two thumbs up idea.
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 21 Jun 1995 17:14:23 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sa23f$sk6@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s4r7k$16uk@digdug.pencom.com> <3s56l6$el0@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Another idea regarding filter services....
I wish NeXT and the good folk at AFS would make a textFiltering service.
AFS has already started on the filters, now we just need all our apps, and
the text object to be able to have any type of document dragged and dropped
into it, and have the textFilterService automatically convert it.
Depending on what the receiving application is, the service convert the best
representation possible. I.E. if the document is ascii only, then an
incoming MS Word Doc would be converted into ascii. If the document is RTFD,
then the incoming Wordperfect document would be converted to RTFD. etc. etc.
While we are at it, I guess it would be nice to have filtering services for,
object based graphics, for formats like pict, corel draw, mac draw. And
also 3D formats like 3ds, dxf etc. etc.
In short I'd like to be able to drag n drop anything anywhere. How bout it?
Later, John
From: mike@child (Michael Emmel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 24 Jun 1995 16:52:10 GMT
Organization: inteleNET Internet Services
Message-ID: <3shfrq$g0h@vodka.intele.net>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s4r7k$16uk@digdug.pencom.com> <3s56l6$el0@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <3sa23f$sk6@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) wrote:
>Another idea regarding filter services....
>I wish NeXT and the good folk at AFS would make a textFiltering
service.
>AFS has already started on the filters, now we just need all our
apps, and
>the text object to be able to have any type of document dragged and
dropped
>into it, and have the textFilterService automatically convert it.
>Depending on what the receiving application is, the service convert
the best
>representation possible. I.E. if the document is ascii only, then an
>incoming MS Word Doc would be converted into ascii. If the document
is RTFD,
>then the incoming Wordperfect document would be converted to RTFD.
etc. etc.
>While we are at it, I guess it would be nice to have filtering
services for,
>object based graphics, for formats like pict, corel draw, mac draw.
And
>also 3D formats like 3ds, dxf etc. etc.
>In short I'd like to be able to drag n drop anything anywhere. How
bout it?
>Later, John
While your at it, I personally would like a WYSIWG editor to support
Tex and Latex. Something like Latex to RFTD would be nice someone has
already written a simple set of filters but they need a rule based
one. I find myself ysing Latex because I have yet to find any other
sysytem that has the power of Latex and the beuty of the output. It
would be Nice to be able to do all the mudane things that you can on a
typical WP type editor and then switc to Latex and back for the stuff
you just can't get any othe way.
Doeas AFS have any desire to support a Latex filter in Open Write it
would make Open Write ?
Mike
From: sree@veda.esys.CWRU.Edu (Narasingarao Sreenath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb Setup help
Date: 22 Jun 1995 22:30:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3scqv2$fur@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hi:
I am a new OmniWeb user. When I open any Web page in OmniWeb all images appear
as blank icons. I have to double click on the icons and then the images open up
in ImageViewer.
Is this a limitation of the current version of OmniWeb, or is this a set-up
problem.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
--
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Systems Engg., Crawford Hall FAX : (216) 368-3123
Case School of Engineering e-mail : sree@mishna.cwru.edu
Case Western Reserve Univ.
Cleveland OH 44106-7070
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 24 Jun 1995 22:48:53 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <3si4ol$ej9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu> <3scrb0$gnh@flood.xnet.com>
In article <3scrb0$gnh@flood.xnet.com>,
Mike Fleming <mikef@flood.xnet.com> wrote:
>I have to agree, such a "feature" would suck. Not only would it suck,
>but it would break NeXTstep. At the risk of bringing out the X holy war
>(and things like auto-focus), let me point out a few reasons why this would
>be an extremely horrible idea:
>
> o As a result of this "feature", one can only select ONE portion
> of text on ANY window on the screen with X. I don't think that
> selecting something in another application--perhaps to perform
> an operation that isn't even related to the clipboard--should
> deselect eveything else in every other application.
Windows 95 has an analogous feature, and it doesn't deselect.
> o In X, this operation only works with text, resulting in a
> non-uniform user interface. Many X users only ever use
> xterms, so they never select any non-text object...so this
> doesn't bother them. Under NeXTstep, it is VERY common to
> cut-and-paste items that aren't text between applications.
This is because X interfaces appear to have been uniformly designed by
morons (and that's about tll that's uniform about X app interfaces).
Windows does this -- again, no problem.
> o As a GUI, NeXTstep works with either one or two-button mice
> While I've never seen a NeXTstep box with a one button mouse,
> I certainly as HELL see NeXT boxes with only two button mice.
> Sounds like this feature would be limited to only a portion
> of the userbase. Unless you want to suggest one of those ugly
> "hold-both-buttons-down" hacks that some X's do on Intel boxes.
No, the solution is to expand the action (e.g., pop up a menu), not to
chuck it entirely. For one thing, this makes cut and paste a lot easier
for people who can either use the mouse or the keyboard but not both
(limited dexterity). Still, given that NeXT has pretty much gone out of
their way to make the interface hostile to handicapped users (requirng
someone to hold the mouse button down throughout an operation instead
of activating a control with a click, for instance, is found throughout the
NeXT interface -- it's a real bitch to use at school where the mouse buttons
occasionally "twitch" and un-click -- but those mice were designed by NeXT
too, and are also notoriously unreliable), none of this is surprising.
>Before you go looking at X for GUI ideas, please understand that X
>was NOT designed well at all. It was designed to fulfill some UNIX
>hackers' dreams of having multible terminal windows open. Many
>aspects of its design are flawed beyond repair.
And it only got worse when they started writing apps. The only apps
with interfaces worse than Visual Basic apps ("every gadget under the
sun scattered everywhere") are X apps ("every gadget under the sun
and *then some* scattered everywhere and none of them work quite the
same way").
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: SB16+CD-ROM -mixing?
Message-ID: <DApr0t.74L@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 05:24:29 GMT
Is there some way to get the output from a CD-ROM (i.e. from the RCA jacks
in the back of my Apple CD300) to go into the line in of the SB16 and
emerge from the line out of the SB16 into some speakers? I thought mixing
was supported? Also, in SoftPC the program seems to think that the SB16 is
not there or is configured differently than it is. In short, how do you get
the SB16 to work properly on a NeXT PC under 3.3...Thank's...
--
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT mail ok!]
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SB16 Mixing, SoftPC
Date: 25 Jun 1995 05:43:36 GMT
Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada
Message-ID: <3sit28$6l4@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Is there a way to get a SB16 to support the line in port? I'd like to play CD's
and have them sent to my speakers connected to the board. It won't work!
Also, how do you get this card to be recognized by SoftPC, or is that even
possible? Any information would be much appreciated...Philip
--
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LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 22 Jun 1995 18:49:42 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3scs26$r35@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3s4s7b$oan@news.INbe.net> <thompsonDAGqFu.41u@netcom.com>
thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes:
>In the File Viewer, while dragging file(s) in a Copy/Move operation,
>I would like to be able to click the second mouse button to toggle
>between Copy/Move/Link. e.g. I pull 5 files from one filesystem to
>another and the default is Copy, so I click the second mouse button
>once and it switches to Move, and then I drop the files.
I second this feature. Excellent idea. Our second mouse button goes
unused so much of the time.
Later, John
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Oh Help! Next WriteNow -> Mac WriteNow
Date: 25 Jun 1995 03:59:47 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3simvj$jkq@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3scfc2$4bu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <3scnk6$4sd@shelob.afs.com>
Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) wrote:
> Here's the full story, as I know it. WriteNow is a product of
> T/Maker. NeXT bought the rights to a Motorola 68K assembler
> version of it, running on original NeXT hardware. At some point
> NeXT transferred the development rights to AppSoft, which folded
> about two years ago.
> The NeXT version of WriteNow uses the 2.0 file format, which is
> no longer in common usage on Mac. But the problem with foreign
> language characters is the the NeXT and Mac font encoding vectors
> do not match. That's why characters with diacriticals do not make
> it out the other side.
This differs quite a bit from the facts as I remember them. WriteNow
was originally written by some NeXT employees, many years ago.
Since NeXT wasn't in the business of writing Mac software, it was
distributed by T/Maker. Eventually NeXT actually released NeXTSTEP,
which included WriteNow for NeXTSTEP. At some point the development
of the Mac version of WriteNow moved completely over to T/Maker
(instead of the guys at NeXT). Even later on, someone else bought
WriteNow from T/Maker. Both T/Maker and the even new owner (whose
name I can't think of right now) continued to improve on the original
Mac version of WriteNow. There was a time when the Mac version of
WriteNow included an option to import files from the NeXTSTEP
version of WriteNow, but I think that's been dropped over the years.
I believe the older Mac versions of WriteNow did handle the character
mapping correctly when importing documents created on the NeXTSTEP
version, but it's been a long time since I've tried that (and maybe
I'm just imagining that it worked OK).
I've used WriteNow on the Mac for many years. Nice program, even
if it is overshadowed by MS-Word. *Much* faster than MS-Word, and
much less of a resource hog.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 25 Jun 1995 04:14:14 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3sinqm$jkq@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu> <3scrb0$gnh@flood.xnet.com> <3sfgov$147k@digdug.pencom.com>
robin@batcave.pencom.com (Robin D Wilson) wrote:
> If the userbase defines NEXTSTEP, then it doesn't break it.
> Let's not get into a war about what features make "NEXTSTEP"
> unique and therefore better... If a significant number of people
> prefer a given feature, then it should be an option -- period.
A significant number, measured how?
People in general? NeXTSTEP users? Non-NeXTSTEP users? Which
non-NeXTSTEP users? The ones who wouldn't buy NeXTSTEP unless it
costs less than Windows95? And what about the things that don't
get implemented while some programmer works on implementing this
super-critical feature? Should NeXT forget about trivial shit like
PDF support, just to make sure we have some extra option for cutting
& pasting text?
I guess I just hate people saying "Period" when debating issues
that don't really mean all that much. I like offering suggestions
in this thread, but let's not take these things too seriously.
Should NeXT worry about adding every little feature that some
"significant number" of people prefer? I don't think so. That's
the X mentality in a nutshell, and believe me the X mentality
belongs in a nutshell.
---
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mandel@calefon (Luis Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SGML Browser
Date: 26 Jun 1995 12:20:46 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <3sm8mu$iit@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <DAJAyy.B3z@califhistsoc.org> <3saj9g$dg3@news.us.net>
> What is an SBML browser. I mean what functionallity does it provide?
>
SGML Stands for Standard Generalized Mark-up Language. IActually it is not a lenguage
but a metalanguage. One have to write a DTD (Document Type Definition) where one
define the grammar of the documents (syntax and semantics) and then you can write your
own documents using your own mark-ups. There are some browsers (for pc, X11, etc)
that you give a DTD and a document written using this DTD and then you can "see" this
documents. An Instance of SGML is HTML. What I expect is a browser like Omniweb or
something like that.
For more information you can read comp.text.sgml or visit the:
SGML Open home page (http://www.sgmlopen.org/)
SGML Web page (http://www.sil.org/sgml/sgml.html)
or read "A gentle introduction to SGML"
(http://etext.virginia.edu/bin/tei-tocs?div=DIV1&id=SG)
Regards, Luis
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| /// Luis Mandel mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de |
| (. .) http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~mandel |
+oOO-(_)-OOo--------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Message-ID: <edewDAqoxn.A4v@netcom.com>
Sender: edew@netcom20.netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <3scrb0$gnh@flood.xnet.com> <3sfgov$147k@digdug.pencom.com> <3sinqm$jkq@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 17:36:59 GMT
Ok, how about this:
Suppose you have a LAN of NEXTSTEP systems (say 18 machines). Have all
of them connect to each other as virtual monitors in a topology that
is either configured by the individual user or by the sysadmin, thus, you'll
get one HUGE monitor:
_________________________
| | | | | | |
|___|___|___|___|___|___|
| | | | | | |
|___|___|___|___|___|___|
| | | | | | |
|___|___|___|___|___|___| <-- your monitor among all others
The beauty of this is that you can pass a file or folder from one machine
to another simply by moving the file/folder to the location of the other
machine in this meta-monitor.
Another feature is allowing multiple openings of the same file. Thus, I
can open three versions of a spreadsheet, send on to Bill over at the
upper left hand monitor, send another to Mary at the upper-middle monitor,
and all three of us can collarborate on inputting and whatever else.
Of course, you may disable your monitor from some others so that you're
not topologically connected to them in this virtual monitor configuration.
Groupware seems to be the hot topic (witness IBM <- LotusNotes), and this
feature would make groupware much more realizable on NEXTSTEP.
EDEW
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 25 Jun 1995 18:34:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <3ska79$fg3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3s4s7b$oan@news.INbe.net> <thompsonDAGqFu.41u@netcom.com> <3scs26$r35@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <3scs26$r35@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writes:
>>In the File Viewer, while dragging file(s) in a Copy/Move operation,
>>I would like to be able to click the second mouse button to toggle
>>between Copy/Move/Link. e.g. I pull 5 files from one filesystem to
>>another and the default is Copy, so I click the second mouse button
>>once and it switches to Move, and then I drop the files.
>
>I second this feature. Excellent idea. Our second mouse button goes
>unused so much of the time.
It's an odd discussion when NeXTSTEP users, in posting wishlists of
improvements that they'd like to see in the NS interface are posting
lists of features that OS/2 (much criticized), Windows 3.1 (vilified!)
and Windows 95 (unreleased, but on my machine for more than a year) have
had for some time.
Let's see. Heavy use of the right mouse button? Os/2, many Windows 3.1
apps, 95. Drag and drop non-app-centric printing? Os/2, Windows 3.1, 95.
Flexible RMB-context sensitive copying operations? 95. RMB-click
cut/copy/paste? 95 system wide, OS/2 & Windows 3.1 in many apps. Full
keyboard access to the entire interface across applications without having
to set it up manually? Windows 2.x, Os/2, 95 (95 adds mousekeys, too, but
they're not necessary, mostly, since you can access the entire interface
without them).
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ScorePlayer.app
Date: 25 Jun 1995 19:16:19 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3skcm3$p4k@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Hi
Don't suppose anyone out there has a copy of ScorePlayer.app (or was it
Score.app?) they could NeXTMail me? Whatever program it was that played
the score files. It was a 2.x app and disappeared with 3.x as I recall.
Many thanks
Eugene
---
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Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/
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--
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Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 26 Jun 1995 04:15:11 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3slc8f$ca1@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 200+ ISV company pages
- 400+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
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the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
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news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
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For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
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INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
In-Reply-To: Hugh Allan's message of Sat, 24 Jun 95 10:44:55 +0100
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun26010933@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <9506240944.AA00449@origin.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 05:09:33 GMT
You can do this. Bring up the finder using CMD-f. Drag the folder onto
the finder's shelf. Select the folder. Enter *.ext (or whatever the extension
is) in the field. Make sure the pop up says "Find items with names that match"
and when you press return, you'll only see those files.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
In-Reply-To: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 21 Jun 1995 17:14:23 -0400
Message-ID: <RDL.95Jun26011222@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel>
<3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s4r7k$16uk@digdug.pencom.com>
<3s56l6$el0@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <3sa23f$sk6@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 05:12:22 GMT
OmniImage (free from Omni Group) and WriteUp ($ from AFS) and/or OpenWrite ($
from Xanthus) allow you do all of the above. We do need a sound filtering
service. GISO doesn't cut it.
Robert La Ferla
Registered NS Consultant
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: lim@nessel..uni-koblenz (Nurleni H. &)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to read japanesse mail ?
Date: 25 Jun 1995 18:20:32 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / Germany
Message-ID: <3sk9dg$5dm@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
Dear All,
can anyone tell me, how to read japanesse mail (file) ? By Font-panel i try KaiSu, but it
is unsuccesful to read the mail (file). I use Mail.app V 3.3.
Thank
---
Nurleni
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#Nurleni Lim,Universitaet Koblenz,lim@infko.uni-koblenz.de#
================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Setup help
Message-ID: <DAqDuv.AIA@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3scqv2$fur@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 13:37:43 GMT
In article <3scqv2$fur@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> sree@veda.esys.CWRU.Edu
(Narasingarao Sreenath) writes:
> Hi:
>
> I am a new OmniWeb user. When I open any Web page in OmniWeb all images
appear
> as blank icons. I have to double click on the icons and then the images open
up
> in ImageViewer.
>
> Is this a limitation of the current version of OmniWeb, or is this a set-up
> problem.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Prof. Sree N. Sreenath Tel. : (216) 368-6219
> Systems Engg., Crawford Hall FAX : (216) 368-3123
> Case School of Engineering e-mail : sree@mishna.cwru.edu
> Case Western Reserve Univ.
> Cleveland OH 44106-7070
You have to ge the OmniImageFilter.Service an put this in your
LocalLibrary/Services or NeXTLibrary/Services folder
nice greetings from Munich
--
__ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10
/\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
\/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail) | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18
NeXTSTEP! CompuServe ID: 100663,25 | Work: +49 89 29 02 54 18
From: eystein@timotei.sfih.no (Eystein Dugstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compilation problems with the TeX-utility bm2font!
Date: 26 Jun 1995 09:37:05 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Message-ID: <3slv41$7v2@due.uninett.no>
I have compiled bm2font on my 486-NEXTSTEP 3.3, and it seemed to go OK. However,
when I try to include the pictures that bm2font generate, I get an error message
When I had someone to convert the image on a MS-DOS version of bm2font, the
image could successfully be included in a LaTeX-document afterwards.
So if you have bm2font compiled and running on NEXTSTEP 3.3, please let me
know. You can send the binary as NeXTMail.
--
_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
\ystein Dugstad Eystein Dugstad
H|gskulen i Sogn og Fjordane Sogn og Fjordane College
Avdeling for ingeni|rutdanning Engineering Department
Postoks 523 P.O. Box 523
6800 F|rde N-6800 FORDE
Tlf: 57826600 NORWAY
Telefaks: 57826830 Ph# +47 57826600
F|retrekkjer NeXTMail Telefax +47 57826830
NeXTMail preferred
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From: ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTEX2html or LaTEX2rtf for NESXTSTEP ?
Date: 26 Jun 1995 11:14:50 GMT
Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sm4ra$ogv@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
Keywords: LateX, rtf, html
Has anyone compiled or installed these programs an NeXTSTEP 3.3 ??
please mail me.
I downloaded both of them und tried to compile them and here is my report:
LaTEX2html:
Needed Perl 5.00, that was not the problem...
Needed PBM-PLUS or NETPBM ???, dont know, where to get this, wht is this.
Needed ghostscript ? cant get it for NeXTStep since there is enough
postscript things ... ???
LATEX2rtf:
After some changes (leaving out malloc.h, CFLAGS= -ansi) I suceeded, but
when I load a converted rtf-document Edit always crahes, without any
Error-Message :-( ???
I made a lot of Latex-Descriptions and papers and want to put them in the
NET not as Postcript, since this are Megabytes of them.
---
mfg Winfried Ritsch
DI Winfried Ritsch - ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at - NeXTMail is ok
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From: pjorge@telepac.pt (paulo jorge r. silva)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Procomm Plus Windows 2.11
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:27:35 GMT
Organization: telepac
Message-ID: <3smja3$as7@tpone.telepac.pt>
Hi
I'm interested in buying "Procomm PlusWindows 2.11"
Send my price and shipping to Portugal
Thanks
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ScorePlayer.app
Date: 26 Jun 1995 16:22:42 GMT
Organization: Computing and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3smmsi$ia8@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3skcm3$p4k@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca wrote:
> Hi
> Don't suppose anyone out there has a copy of ScorePlayer.app (or was it Score.app?)
they could NeXTMail me? Whatever program it was that played the score files. It was a
2.x app and disappeared with 3.x as I recall.
> Many thanks
Thanks for all the responses. Already recieved a copy, so no need to send more.
There's also /usr/bin/playscore which will play score files as well.
Now for the .score files...
Eugene
PS Oh, apologies for the double sig...I always forget that Alexandra.app includes
it.
--
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Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/
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From: ftoth@cybernetics.net (Fred Toth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AppleShare on NeXT?
Date: 26 Jun 1995 16:57:19 GMT
Organization: Cybernetx, Inc.
Message-ID: <3smotf$ei4@news0.cybernetics.net>
After upgrading to 3.3, I learned that client AppleShare is no longer
supported. Oh well... (it never worked very well anyway).
Does anyone know of any kind of AppleShare support for NeXT? For example,
I have heard of a public domain package called "Columbia appletalk"
which has maybe been ported to next. Anyone have any pointers?
Thanks,
Fred Toth
ftoth@cybernetics.net
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From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Re: voice/data/fax modems
In-Reply-To: buckley@mayo.edu's message of 25 Jun 1995 22:54:25 GMT
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.95Jun26123405@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
References: <3s6jel$lfe@highway.LeidenUniv.nl> <3skpf1$ohs@fermat.mayo.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:34:05 GMT
>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Buckley <buckley@mayo.edu> writes:
Paul> In answer to my question
>> > What modems does Nextstep work with natively
Paul> gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl wrote .. a little stuff deleted...
>> As far as I understand, none that you can still buy. Get
>> NXfax, or JollysZyxelFax (for ZyXel) or Jollys2.0Fax (for all
>> others) and pay Jolly his shareware fee.
Paul> Ok. But do I have to get a Zyxel if I want to use 'am' with
Paul> voice/fax/data handling, or is there another brand? It seems
Paul> not.
Paul> -Paul
You can also try mgetty+sendfax. The voice partt has more features and
seems easy to customize. You can find it at
ftp.leo.org:/pub/comp/networking/communication/modem/mgetty/mgetty*.tar.gz
You have to compile it yourself though.
Francois Magnan
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Oh Help! Next WriteNow -> Mac WriteNow
Date: 26 Jun 1995 04:40:46 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3sldoe$n3r@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3scfc2$4bu@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <3scnk6$4sd@shelob.afs.com> <3simvj$jkq@usenet.rpi.edu>
Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) wrote:
> > Here's the full story, as I know it. WriteNow is a product of
> > T/Maker. NeXT bought the rights to a Motorola 68K assembler
> > version of it, running on original NeXT hardware. At some point
> > NeXT transferred the development rights to AppSoft, which folded
> > about two years ago.
> This differs quite a bit from the facts as I remember them. WriteNow
> was originally written by some NeXT employees, many years ago.
[etc]
Uh, it's not at all obvious from the way I wrote this, but for all
I know Greg is right. I'm just a bit perplexed that I had heard
such a detailed description of things, many years ago (when I was
still on the Mac, and not doing anything with NeXT's), if that
description was wrong. At the time I heard all this NeXT wasn't
even shipping hardware yet, so it seems like an odd story for
someone to have made up.
> I've used WriteNow on the Mac for many years. Nice program, even
> if it is overshadowed by MS-Word. *Much* faster than MS-Word,
> and much less of a resource hog.
This part, at least, is certainly true...
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@hp.free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Video Teleconferencing anyone?
Message-ID: <1995Jun26.162122.7379@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <1995Jun24.004856.6609@nosc.mil>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:21:22 GMT
huck@nosc.mil (Craig Huckabee) wrote:
> Does there exist any video teleconferencing software/hardware for black
or
> white hardware running NeXTStep 3.3? Anything (even alpha or beta
quality
> ) would be appreciated....
> Thanks,
> Craig
There is an X-Window source availiable for port at:
ftp ftp.inria.fr/INRIA/ivs-2.1.tar.Z
Hope that helps.
Fabien
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CDPlayer not working for one user
Date: 26 Jun 1995 04:49:17 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3sle8d$n3r@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3sekcu$koj@news1.digex.net>
sbender@harmony-ds.com (Scott Bender) wrote:
> When logged in as one certain user, the CDPlayer does not work.
> For any other user it works fine. I get this message on the
> console:
>
> Jun 23 10:44:51 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio
> cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer
See if the user has changed the default for ApplicationPaths.
Ie, see what you get from the following unix command:
dread WorkSpace ApplicationPaths
For most users, you'll get nothing. If you get something, it's
supposed to be a set of pathnames, separated by colons. If this
is set, then you'd want one of those pathnames to be the directory
that includes CDPlayer.app.
If that's not it, then maybe it's something to do with permissions
on /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs or on something in CDPlayer.app.
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: wolfs@fermi.nsrl.rochester.edu
Subject: Gopher Server for Intel NeXT machines
Message-ID: <1995Jun26.172152.1@fermi.nsrl.rochester.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: Nuclear Structure Research Laboratory
Date: 26 Jun 95 17:21:52 -0500
I own a 486 running NeXTStep and I would like to make it a gopher server. I
have found a gopher server for NEXT but this requires NEXT hardware and will
not run on a 486. Does anyone have experience with UNIX Gopher Servers run-
ning on a Intel NeXT machine ?
Thanks,
Frank Wolfs
wolfs@nsrl31.nsrl.rochester.edu
From: walsh@mathubc.ca (John B. Walsh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NoteAbility and MusicTeX
Date: 26 Jun 1995 23:43:34 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <3sngn6$leq@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <3sn6op$pv6@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu>
John Boyd Candlish writes:
> There is a wonderful and currently maintained music
> notation program that works with TeX.
> <...referring to MusicTeX...>
Since the subject of MusicTex has come up, I should
mention that there is a program called abc2mtex, written by
Chris Walshaw, which will take a file written in a simple
ascii notation, called abc, and translate that into MusicTeX
file which can then be printed out as sheet music. It
requires that TeX and MusicTeX be set up on the
machine--easy under Nextstep. It also supports MusixTeX,
which is the successor to MusicTeX. And it is free. It is
designed for one-line pieces, such as fiddle tunes, and for
these it is quick and simple to use. There is also a
companion program, called playabc, by Don Ward, which will
play back the music over the computer speaker. (The program
is designed for a Sparc, but will compile on the NeXT.) The
abc notation is quite compact--a simple 16 bar tune takes
about 300 bytes. Both are command line programs, but I would
imagine that one could hack a GUI front end without too many
problems.
It is avaiable for ftp at the Ceolas archive at
celtic.stanford.edu. in /pub/tunes/abc2mtex. The
documentation (usrguide.tex or usr.guide.ps) has a more
detailed description. The archive also has MuTeX and
MusicTeX on it, as well as lots of tunes in abc notation.
(Now if someone would just write a filter to allow one
to import the abc files into NoteAbility!)
Cheers,
John Walsh
walsh@math.ubc.ca
From: smith@skid.ps.uci.edu (Andy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where do I find Latex 2e?
Date: 26 Jun 95 23:44:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <smith.804210252@skid.ps.uci.edu>
Where can I find Latex 2e for the next. I have version
3.141 and I want to move to version 3.1415.
I looked in ftp.cs.orst.edu.
-----------
Andy Smith (smith@skid.ps.uci.edu)
My opinions are mine and mine alone.
You can imagine how that makes me feel.
From: robin@batcave.pencom.com (Robin D Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 26 Jun 1995 23:22:15 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3snff7$pih@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu> <3scrb0$gnh@flood.xnet.com> <3sfgov$147k@digdug.pencom.com> <3sinqm$jkq@usenet.rpi.edu>
Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
: robin@batcave.pencom.com (Robin D Wilson) wrote:
: > If the userbase defines NEXTSTEP, then it doesn't break it.
: > Let's not get into a war about what features make "NEXTSTEP"
: > unique and therefore better... If a significant number of people
: > prefer a given feature, then it should be an option -- period.
: A significant number, measured how?
Does it matter?
: People in general? NeXTSTEP users? Non-NeXTSTEP users? Which
: non-NeXTSTEP users? The ones who wouldn't buy NeXTSTEP unless it
: costs less than Windows95? And what about the things that don't
: get implemented while some programmer works on implementing this
: super-critical feature? Should NeXT forget about trivial shit like
: PDF support, just to make sure we have some extra option for cutting
: & pasting text?
Well, let's see -- posters to this thread immediately pops to mind as a good
yard-stick... I'd say we're about 50/50 relative to this cut/paste/copy feature. So,
yeah -- that's a reasonable estimate of the general population. Clearly there are a
number of people who find this "feature" useful -- who are _you_ to determine that
it would "break NEXTSTEP"?
BTW, _NOBODY_ is suggesting that adding these features is a "freebee" and
doesn't require development. I believe the thread is related to "features we'd like to
see in NS 4.0"... If they're not there -- nobody is going to cry.
: I guess I just hate people saying "Period" when debating issues
: that don't really mean all that much. I like offering suggestions
: in this thread, but let's not take these things too seriously.
: Should NeXT worry about adding every little feature that some
: "significant number" of people prefer? I don't think so. That's
: the X mentality in a nutshell, and believe me the X mentality
: belongs in a nutshell.
Should NeXT simply discard the request for a feature because someone decided
that it didn't fit "NEXTSTEP" mentality? I don't think so... _THAT_ is the point I
was trying to make -- "Period". I don't recall saying that the feature should be
implemented -- just that defining it as "not NEXTSTEP" was a futile argument...
NEXTSTEP is (and will continue to be) whatever is in NEXTSTEP. If a given feature
is added to NEXTSTEP -- then it is part of "NEXTSTEP" as much as any predicessor
features.
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: ScorePlayer.app
Message-ID: <DAsxnt.BK6@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3skcm3$p4k@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:40:41 GMT
In article <3skcm3$p4k@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca
writes:
> Hi
>
> Don't suppose anyone out there has a copy of ScorePlayer.app (or was it
> Score.app?) they could NeXTMail me? Whatever program it was that played
> the score files. It was a 2.x app and disappeared with 3.x as I recall.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Eugene
> ---
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
> Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
> Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
> University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
> Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
> Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
> Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
> University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
> Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is a binary called playscore in /usr/bin.
Nice Greetings from Munich
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From: ksmith@telesource.com(K. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Web Tool
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 00:39:56 GMT
Organization: scruz-net
Message-ID: <950626173956.216AAC7I.kevin@ksmith>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Are there any tools for NeXT which allow you to make hot spots on graphics
for Web pages?
Thanks in advance!
Kevin T. Smith
ksmith@telesource.com
From: mike@child (Michael Emmel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTEX2html or LaTEX2rtf for NESXTSTEP ?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 01:13:19 GMT
Organization: inteleNET Internet Services
Message-ID: <3snlvf$o9r@vodka.intele.net>
References: <3sm4ra$ogv@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch) wrote:
>Has anyone compiled or installed these programs an NeXTSTEP 3.3 ??
>please mail me.
>I downloaded both of them und tried to compile them and here is my
report:
>LaTEX2html:
>Needed Perl 5.00, that was not the problem...
>Needed PBM-PLUS or NETPBM ???, dont know, where to get this, wht is
this.
>Needed ghostscript ? cant get it for NeXTStep since there is enough
>postscript things ... ???
>LATEX2rtf:
>After some changes (leaving out malloc.h, CFLAGS= -ansi) I suceeded,
but
>when I load a converted rtf-document Edit always crahes, without any
>Error-Message :-( ???
>I made a lot of Latex-Descriptions and papers and want to put them in
the
>NET not as Postcript, since this are Megabytes of them.
>
I got it workin kinda I qiut becase its not worth it the convertrs
cannot handle any special stuff like mathamatics etc.
You may be able to go dvi->ps->html but probably not.
I think they need a code witer to convert Latex to RTF instead of lots
of macro's its not a good design IMHO. That's another reason I quit
playing with it. Its not a real filter/converter they did not try to
suport the conversion of generic Latex to RTF. I personally would be
more intrsted in a dvi to RTF convter or on that includes all the
Latex formating info thats not in the tex file.
I asked about AFS including a Latex filter in there filter services
but got no answer off the Net. Maybe you ought to talk with them and
see if there intrested.
Anyway unless your stuff is just strait text forget Latex2e.
I would love to be able to jump back and forth between Latex and a
WYSISWG editor and keep the nice Latex formating.
I guess the commercial vendors are not intrested in supporting a much
better free product.
Mike
From: Jeffrey T Eaton <je2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Gnu Finger 1.37?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:08:08 -0400
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <sjvt8s600YUv4qkUhf@andrew.cmu.edu>
Has anyone successfully compiled Gnu Finger 1.37 on NextStep 3.3? I
have been trying, but make keeps dying with:
userface.c:95: undefined type, found `DIR'
Now, I made sure that /usr/include/bsd/sys/dir.h (where the DIR struct
is defined) is included, but that didn't correct the error.
Any suggestions?
---
Jeffrey T. Eaton je2i@andrew.cmu.edu
Sophomore, Computer Science/Information Systems at Carnegie Mellon University
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From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Setup help
Date: 26 Jun 1995 22:54:36 +0100
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3snaas$54@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <3scqv2$fur@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Narasingarao Sreenath (sree@veda.esys.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
: Hi:
: I am a new OmniWeb user. When I open any Web page in OmniWeb all images appear
: as blank icons. I have to double click on the icons and then the images open up
: in ImageViewer.
: Is this a limitation of the current version of OmniWeb, or is this a set-up
: problem.
: Any help is appreciated.
: Thanks in advance.
: --
Simply set in OmniWeb's Preferences "Auto-fetch inline images" to on.
Hope that helps,
Rainer
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From: collison@tss.com (Derek Collison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CryptoBundle Location for 3.3??
Date: 26 Jun 1995 20:38:20 GMT
Organization: Teknekron Software Systems, Inc.
Distribution: all
Message-ID: <3sn5rs$n8t@newsflash.tss.com>
Does anyone know where I may be able to find CryptoBundle for NS 3.3?
Thanks in advance...
--
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Tekenekron Software Systems, Inc.
From: shaler@best.com (Michael Shaler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: EPS NeXT files on Macintosh
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:11:30 -0700
Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378
Message-ID: <shaler-2706950111300001@shaler.vip.best.com>
References: <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org> <3sdioc$eq3@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <3sdioc$eq3@news.acns.nwu.edu>, j-weiss@nwu.edu wrote:
> In article <DAIvM3.8yx@musical.fdn.org>,
> Sam Przyswa <sam@musical.fdn.org> wrote:
> > I have to transfer EPS NeXT files to Macintosh (Adobe Illustrator
> >and AppSoftDraw) I have tried to convert the text file (CR/LF) but the
> >PostScript Mac's tools can't read my EPS file because unknowed commands.
> >
> > Does anyone on the net have some experiences about NeXT/Mac EPS
> >files tranfer ?
> >
>
[snip]
>
> This utility is a short Postscript program. You append your EPS file to
> it and run the combination through a Postscript interpreter. It
> intercepts all the drawing calls and output the proper Illustrator codes.
>
Tailor can save PS files as .ai files natively.
Michael Shaler
GS Corporation
From: Gerald McMullon <gfg@info.bt.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SICSTUS Prolog under NeXTstep?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 08:37:20 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
Message-ID: <3sog00$qq3@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Has anyone used SICSTUS Prolog under NeXTstep?
We are developing rule based applications on NeXTstep Intel platform
and it was suggested that we should use Prolog.
What is SICSTUS Prolog like? Are there 'better' alternatives? Any
pitfalls or problem areas?
Thanks.
Gerald McMullon
BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, England
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard)
Subject: AVI player for NeXT?
Message-ID: <DAsLB3.I2I@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:13:51 GMT
Greetings:
Does one exist? If so, where?
--
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School of Optometry |
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Waterloo, Ontario | -- Bill Gates '81
Canada, N2L 3G1 |
From: jan@altus.no (Jan Bratbak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Font Converters
Date: 27 Jun 1995 12:14:40 GMT
Organization: EUnet Norway
Message-ID: <3sosng$n2k@oslo-nntp.eunet.no>
Which are some good (and easy to use) font converters from Mac and PC to
NS?
Regards,
Jan
From: guptaa@alleg.edu (ANI )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics
Subject: Need IBM .TIF -> NeXT TIFF conv. util.
Date: 27 Jun 1995 13:25:00 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sp0rc$kdg@mustang.alleg.edu>
Hello,
Does anyone know of how to convert IBM .TIF format to NeXT native TIFF format?
Opening IBM .TIF files in NEXTSTEP causes the images to come up losing much
information. These are images saved in Adobe Photoshop for windows. Is there a
utility to convert pdf files to NeXT native TIFF?
Thanks.
Please post directly to my email since I have frequent problems with my
newsreading software.
-Ani.
guptaa@alleg.edu
From: suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu (Satoru Uzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to read japanesse mail ?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 15:45:24 GMT
Organization: Emory University
Message-ID: <3sp92k$8u4@moe.cc.emory.edu>
References: <3sk9dg$5dm@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
Nurleni H. & (lim@nessel..uni-koblenz) wrote:
: Dear All,
: can anyone tell me, how to read japanesse mail (file) ? By Font-panel i try KaiSu, but it
: is unsuccesful to read the mail (file). I use Mail.app V 3.3.
: Thank
: ---
: Nurleni
You have only two choices. One is to install kterm (a terminal capable for
displaying Japanese characters) which requires X windows to be installed. The
other is to get and install Japanese version of NeXTSTEP which is expensive.
KaiSu doesn't help at all since it is a font set for Chinese. I never tried
to install Japanese Postscript font on English system, so don't know whether
it will work with Mail.app or not. If there are more information on handling
Japanese on English (or any other Western Language) system, please e-mail me.
I'm interested, too.
Satoru Uzawa, suzawa2unix.cc.emory.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SICSTUS Prolog under NeXTstep?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 16:01:33 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Message-ID: <3spa0t$afo@abel.cc.sunysb.edu>
References: <3sog00$qq3@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
In article <3sog00$qq3@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Gerald McMullon
<gfg@info.bt.co.uk> writes:
> Has anyone used SICSTUS Prolog under NeXTstep?
>
> We are developing rule based applications on NeXTstep Intel platform
> and it was suggested that we should use Prolog.
>
> What is SICSTUS Prolog like? Are there 'better' alternatives? Any
> pitfalls or problem areas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gerald McMullon
> BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, England
We have developed two educational software application packages under NS
that are rule-based and use a common prolog engine. The packages,
SYNTACTICA and SEMANTICA, are for natural language analysis (linguistics)
and will be distributed commercially by MIT Press this Fall.
The prolog that we use is not SICSTUS but rather XSB, a version developed
here at SUNY - Stony Brook. XSB runs well under NS, Sun and a variety of
other workstation OSs. Soon it will run under Windows. And...it's free!
If you want further info, let me know.
-Richard Larson
From: vmin@urba.ulg.ac.be (Vincent Minder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Can Tailor swap font types?
Date: 22 Jun 95 15:29:27
Organization: Université de Ličge
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <vmin.95Jun22152927@darkstar>
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Tailor + the Find tool (separate keystone) should be the right thing for what
you want to do. Contact Peter Camps (other Belgian fellow) at peter@firstclass.be
for technical information.
Vincent
From: mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: uudecode selection service?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 16:21:23 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com>
Anyone have a service that uudecodes a selection (e.g. in Mail.app) and opens
the resulting file?
Thanks!
mikem
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ScorePlayer.app
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 17:56:20 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950627185620.226AACUC.malc@daneel>
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> Don't suppose anyone out there has a copy of ScorePlayer.app (or
> was it Score.app?) they could NeXTMail me? Whatever program it
> was that played the score files. It was a 2.x app and disappeared
> with 3.x as I recall.
>
It disappeared along with the rest of MusicKit. If you don't have MusicKit
it's unlikely that ScorePlayer will work. You'll have to get MK from:
ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: ser@ix.cs.uoregon.edu (Sean Elliott Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 27 Jun 1995 18:04:01 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <3sph6h$dvd@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu> <3scrb0$gnh@flood.xnet.com> <3sfgov$147k@digdug.pencom.com>
Robin D Wilson (robin@batcave.pencom.com) wrote:
: mikef@flood.xnet.com (Mike Fleming) wrote:
: : Joe Reiss (jreiss@vt.edu) wrote:
: : : >7) Double-click, or select, characters (etc) with one mouse button and
: : : >insert them somewhere else with a click of another button. In other words, do
: : : >a copy/paste without having to a) go into edit in the menu, b) "copy",
: : : >c) choose your insertion place and then d) "paste". Too much hassle for a
: : : >copy/paste job. The above desirable feature already works on other, "less
: : : >sophisticated", systems ! Why not on NS ?
: I use NEXTSTEP, X, _AND_ Windows. I can even find features in Window's that I
: like (even though it makes me sick to admit it!)...
Hear, hear.
--
Sean Russell \ If trees screamed, would we be so cavalier
ser@cs.uoregon.edu \ about cutting them down? Maybe, if they
http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~ser ) screamed all the time, for no good reason.
Finger Me for PGP Key / --- Jack Handy
NeXTMail Welcome!!! /
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NetScape & NEXTSTEP 3.
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 18:01:47 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950627190147.226AACUD.malc@daneel>
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> wasn't NCSA Mosaic's interface prototyped under NS?)
>
I don't *think* so, but certainly Tim Berners-Lee's original application was
written (in three months) using NeXTstep. You can still get it from some
sites.
> BTW, does anyone know whether OpenStep is going to be integrated
> into all of Sun's future releases, or if it's going to be an add-on
> option that you'll have to pay $5 gazillion for?
>
I believe it will be rolled in.
Have fun,
mmalc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
From: tini@gurke.ping.de
Subject: Alexandra.app version 0.8b available
Message-ID: <DAqty9.Bv@gurke.ping.de>
Sender: usenet@gurke.ping.de
Organization: Legalize THC
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 19:25:20 GMT
Version 0.8b is a bugfix release.
Right now, there's only the source code distribution, but a quad fat binary
version is comming soon.
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/apps/
Alexandra.0.8b.s.tar.gz
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to read japanesse mail ?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 18:32:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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References: <3sp92k$8u4@moe.cc.emory.edu>
In article <3sp92k$8u4@moe.cc.emory.edu> suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu (Satoru Uzawa) writes:
>Nurleni H. & (lim@nessel..uni-koblenz) wrote:
>: Dear All,
>: can anyone tell me, how to read japanesse mail (file) ? By Font-panel i try KaiSu, but it
>: is unsuccesful to read the mail (file). I use Mail.app V 3.3.
>: Thank
>: ---
>: Nurleni
>
>You have only two choices. One is to install kterm (a terminal capable for
>displaying Japanese characters) which requires X windows to be installed. The
>other is to get and install Japanese version of NeXTSTEP which is expensive.
>KaiSu doesn't help at all since it is a font set for Chinese. I never tried
>to install Japanese Postscript font on English system, so don't know whether
>it will work with Mail.app or not. If there are more information on handling
>Japanese on English (or any other Western Language) system, please e-mail me.
>I'm interested, too.
>
> Satoru Uzawa, suzawa2unix.cc.emory.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
I think the following is a bit more convenient.
For occasional use and just for *reading*, get and install the following:
Perl (programming language package from archives
-- This is needed by jenscript which is included in kanjips).
TickleServices.app (sharewahre from archives)
kanjips: (converts JIS text into regular PostScript)
ftp://pinoko.berkeley.edu/pub/next/nihongo/kanjips.NeXT.tar.Z
jis32, jis48 bitmap fonts:
ftp://pinoko.berkeley.edu/pub/next/nihongo/jis48.Z
ftp://pinoko.berkeley.edu/pub/next/nihongo/jis32.Z
Add the following to TickleServices:
--- cut ---
|
"Key Equivalent" = "j";
"Menu Item" = "Mail/Preview JIS";
"Send Type" = "NXAsciiPboardType";
"Tcl" = "\
exec jenscript -1x -fjis48 -S12 << [pasteboard read] | kanjips | open
";
--- cut ---
Kanjips is old but precompiled binary (compiled in NS2.1 days) is
included for Moto which should still work unser NS3.3 moto.
I don't know if it compiles now, however. Probably it doesn't, but
it shouldn't be too hard make it compile. I forgot the details
of these packages, so I can't answer install questions of these.
In Mail, you display the message (keep the selection in the top
half where you've selected a message, not in the text area), or in
a newsreader, select the portion of text in the text area, then
from Menu do: Services -> Mail -> Preview JIS.
You can now read the kanji mail in Preview (autolaunched if not
already).
Diplaying bit-mapped fonts in Preview is not pretty, but if you
work out good point sizes for a font and 92dpi NeXT screen,
you may be able to improve display quality.
Briefly, this is how things work:
Jenscript (Perl script included in kanjips) converts JIS text into
kanji PostScript. Kanjips then expands kanji PS into regular PS
by expanding kanji using bitmap fonts, and then the result is piped
into Preview.app via open command. You can print from Preview if
you wish to any PostScript printer.
The above won't work well for NeXTMail or if paragraphs has
long lines (not limited to 80 ascii columns).
Setup is a bit involved, but it is quite painless for reading
occasional kanji mails and news (fj.* groups).
The best solution, if you can afford it, is to buy NS3.3J from Canon
in Japan.
Another solution is to use X-Windoze system with Kterm client.
I also have this, but it is just plain too inconvenient and
bulky (I don't want to launch the whole X11 stuff just to read
mail).
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails OK)
From: David Hempling <David.Hempling@latgroup.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NoteAbility
Date: 26 Jun 1995 20:27:44 GMT
Organization: The Latitude Group, Inc.
Message-ID: <3sn580$6v9@kane.ico.net>
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I also was looking for a music notation program a month or so ago
when I ran into NoteAbility and the inability to get a hold of a
released version.
The scoop? OpenSource <http://www.opensource.com/> will be making
NoteAbility available sometime this Summer. Word from Joni Jo
Ross (joni@opensource.com), an Account Executive at OpenSource, is
that NoteAbility's release is anticipated for late July.
Enjoy,
david.hempling@latgroup.com
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NoteAbility
Date: 26 Jun 1995 13:53:45 -0700
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3sn6op$pv6@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu>
References: <3sd1cf$rd@phoenix.csc.calpoly.edu> <3shagb$l70@csi0.csi.uottawa.ca>
Summary: music noteation for NEXTSTEP
There is a wonderful and currently maintained music notation program that
works with TeX. The only thing you need to be aware of when installing
for NEXTSTEP is to change the *.pk files to *.300pk files.
here's a description of these programs from the FAQ:
This FAQ list is kept up to date by the contributions of the members of the
mutex mailing list. To participate in mutex and musictex discussions, you
can subscribe to (or unsubscribe from) the "mutex" mailing list at the
address:
mutex-request@stolaf.edu
To send a question to the entire membership of the mutex mailing list, use
the address:
mutex@stolaf.edu
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01 What is MuTeX?
The MuTeX package is a set of macros allowing TeX to typeset music. It was
written by Andrea Steinbach and Angelika Schofer, as a master's thesis at
Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms University. MuTeX allows you to typeset
single-staff music and lyrics.
01 What is MusicTeX?
Another powerful package which allows the typesetting of orchestral and
polifonic music is MusicTeX, written by Daniel Taupin.
The main difference between MuTeX and MusicTeX is that
- MusicTeX deals with multiple staves (staffs?)
- MuTeX produces a nicer output.
The reason that MuteX produces nicer output seems to be that it can
handle only single-staff music and therefore can easier put glue
between the notes. A second reason is that it makes "real" slurs and not
some sort of rotated brackets (braces, ...). But MusicTeX is getting
better and better because Daniel Taupin maintains it whilst nearly
nobody continues the development of MuTeX
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02 Where can I get MuTeX and MusicTeX?
Most up to date version of musictex:
rsovax.ups.circe.fr directory [anonymous.musictex]
Different versions of MuTeX and MusicTeX are available from many other
sites, including:
ftp.stolaf.edu /pub/mutex/MuTeX.tar.Z
ftp.stolaf.edu /pub/mutex/MuTeX_doc.tar.Z
ftp.gmd.de /music/mutex/mutex.zip
ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au /pub/tex/MuTeX.tar.Z
clouso.crim.ca /pub/MuTeX.tar.Z
ftp.cs.ruu.nl /pub/TEX/MUSIC/MuTeX.tar.Z
ymir.claremont.edu [anonymous.tex.music.mtex]
MusicTeX
ftp.stolaf.edu /pub/mutex/musictex-4.31.tar.Z
ftp.gmd.de /music/musictex/musictex.zip
/music/musictex/musictex-nnn.tar.Z
ymir.claremont.edu [anonymous.tex.music.musictex].
alfred.ccs.carleton.ca /pub/tex/MusicTeX.tar.Z
aix370.rrz.uni-koeln.de /tex/musictex.tar.Z
bach.cs.umb.edu /pub/tex/musictex.tar.Z
cs.dal.ca /pub/comp.archives/musictex
emx.utexas.edu /pub/mnt/source/tex/musictex.tar.Z
forwiss.uni-passau.de /pub/tex/macros/musictex.tar.Z
iraun1.ira.uka.de /tex/musictex.tar.Z
kth.se /tex/umb/musictex.tar.Z
wraith.cs.uow.edu.au /cache/ftp.cs.umb.edu/pub/tex/musictex.tar.Z
qed.rice.edu /pub/musictex.tar.Z
ftp.cs.ruu.nl /pub/TEX/MUSIC/musictex.tar.Z
(musictex.zip + musicexa.zip)
srawgw.sra.co.jp /.a/sranha/arch/arch/comp.archives/musictex
srawgw.sra.co.jp /.a/sranha/arch/arch/comp.archives/music/notation/musictex
Other Related Stuff
arisia.xerox.com /pub/musictexdemo.PS
athene.uni-paderborn.de /pcsoft/amiga/tex/fonts/musictex.lzh
nz20.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de /pub/pctex/texutl/macros/musictex.lzh
ftp.gmd.de /music/midi2tex/... midi to MusicTeX
For those without FTP access, you can e-mail to:
mail-server@cs.ruu.nl TEX/MUSIC/musictex.tar.Z
or
mailserv@ymir.claremont.edu
................................
I hope this is as inspiring to you as it was to me when I found out!!!
jCandlish
.
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: uudecode selection service?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 19:05:09 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <3spkp5$8st@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com> mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack)
writes:
>
> Anyone have a service that uudecodes a selection (e.g. in Mail.app) and
opens
> the resulting file?
Yes, the NEXTSTEP 3.3 mail application does this very nicely!
> Thanks!
>
> mikem
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: uudecode selection service?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 18:33:03 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1995Jun27.183303.10183@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com>
In article <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com> mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack)
writes:
>
> Anyone have a service that uudecodes a selection (e.g. in Mail.app) and
opens
> the resulting file?
If you use 3.3, then Message->Decode Foreign Attachment does that.
Paul
--
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http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul (under construction)
From: Josh Neal <neal@moa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mgetty+sendfax
Date: 27 Jun 1995 21:43:59 GMT
Organization: SONNET Networking - Modesto Sonora Stockton (800)50-ONLINE
Message-ID: <3spu2v$sm2@moa1.moa.com>
Does anyone have any experience installing/using this software on NeXTs?
Thanks much,
Josh
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neal@moa.com (NeXTmail/MIME capable)
josh.neal@ccc-infonet.edu (ASCII only, please)
Fun with anagrams: Computer Science --> Coerce Inept Scum
NeXT Computer No. AAK0001587
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From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org
Subject: Re: ScorePlayer.app
Message-ID: <1995Jun27.220304.12586@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <3skcm3$p4k@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <DAsxnt.BK6@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 22:03:04 GMT
mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel) wrote:
[munch]
> There is a binary called playscore in /usr/bin.
> Nice Greetings from Munich
> --
> __ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10
> /\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
> \/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail) | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18
> NeXTSTEP! CompuServe ID: 100663,25 | Work: +49 89 29 02 54
18
fabien@free> man playscore
No manual entry for playscore.
8^(
fabien@free> playscore
The playscore program performs a scorefile by playing it on the DSP
and/or MIDI.
It's invoked as
playscore [options] <scorefile>
If the specified file isn't an absolute path, the program searches for
it in the following directories, in order:
The current working directory
~/Library/Music/Scores
/LocalLibrary/Music/Scores
/NextLibrary/Music/Scores.
The '.playscore' or '.score' extension, which identify a file as a
scorefile, can be omitted -- the program will append it for you. If you
leave off the extension and both a '.playscore' and a '.score' version
are
present, the '.playscore' version is choosen.
The following options are recognized:
-q Quiet mode. All print-out is surpressed.
-d Debug mode. This leaves room for the Ariel Bug56
debugger on the DSP.
-f Fast mode -- uses a ScorefilePerformer.
Usually, playscore reads the entire scorefile
before
playing it. By using a ScorefilePerformer, the
program can read the file on the fly. The
performance begins sooner but puts a heavier demand
on the main CPU than does the default.
-r <count> Repeat performance the specified number of times.
-w <soundfile> Write the DSP sample output as the named soundfile.
The '.snd' extension is automatically appended to
the file name.
-c <soundfile> Write the DSP commands output as the named
soundfile.
The '.snd' extension is automatically appended to
the file name.
For futher details, see the playscore MAN page.
-----------------------------------------^^^ Kidding?
fabien@free>
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From: erik@naggum.no (Erik Naggum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.sys.unisys,comp.text.frame,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.theory,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
Subject: cmsg cancel <3sn6cc$g69@Sequoia.picosof.com>
Control: cancel <3sn6cc$g69@Sequoia.picosof.com>
Date: 26 Jun 1995 21:36:30 GMT
Organization: Naggum Software; +47 2295 0313
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <19950626T213630Z@naggum.no>
--
NETSCAPISM /net-'sca-,pi-z*m/ n (1995): habitual diversion of the mind to
purely imaginative activity or entertainment as an escape from the
realization that the Internet was built by and for someone else.
From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan Urban)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 25 Jun 1995 18:57:49 -0400
Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
Message-ID: <3skpld$qq1@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <thompsonDAGqFu.41u@netcom.com> <3scs26$r35@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <3ska79$fg3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
In article <3ska79$fg3@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) wrote:
> It's an odd discussion when NeXTSTEP users, in posting wishlists of
> improvements that they'd like to see in the NS interface are posting
> lists of features that OS/2 (much criticized), Windows 3.1 (vilified!)
> and Windows 95 (unreleased, but on my machine for more than a year) have
> had for some time.
<shrug> Nothing's perfect. Besides, the list of UI features in NS that
aren't in the others is probably longer.. and the UI doesn't make the
OS, by a long shot. Win95 with a NS GUI (not like they haven't stolen
it anyway) would still be a cheesy excuse for an OS.
--
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: AVI player for NeXT?
Message-ID: <DAuL5D.CBu@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <DAsLB3.I2I@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:05:37 GMT
In article <DAsLB3.I2I@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario
Stargard) writes:
> Greetings:
> Does one exist? If so, where?
>
> --
> Mario Stargard | NeXTMail Welcome.
> School of Optometry |
> University of Waterloo | "640K ought to be enough for anybody."
> Waterloo, Ontario | -- Bill Gates '81
> Canada, N2L 3G1 |
Yes a player for AVI Files lies on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de,
in, I think Pub/Comp/Platforms/NeXT/Graphics/Video; but I had big
problems with that. Perhaps it works on your box :-)
Nice Greetings from Munich
--
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/\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
\/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail) | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Font Converters
Message-ID: <DAuLAo.CCL@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3sosng$n2k@oslo-nntp.eunet.no>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:08:48 GMT
In article <3sosng$n2k@oslo-nntp.eunet.no> jan@altus.no (Jan Bratbak) writes:
> Which are some good (and easy to use) font converters from Mac and PC to
> NS?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jan
I made good expericences with FONTASY. A Program running under MacOS.
Converts fonts in any directions but you need to spend some money on it.
Otherwise if your are not willing to spend your money, there are some
PD-Convertes (binaries), which can be found on the NOVA CDROM from
Walnut Creek or by ftp'ing cs.orst.edu. Sorry, but I've never tried them
out ... :-{
Nice Greetings from Munich
--
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/\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
\/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail) | Tel.: +49 89 65 29 18
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From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Re: EPS NeXT files on Macintosh
Message-ID: <DAuwAn.Iq2@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land)
References: <shaler-2706950111300001@shaler.vip.best.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 00:06:21 GMT
Michael Shaler writes
>
> Tailor can save PS files as .ai files natively.
>
Yes I have contacted FirstClass NV, but Tailor is a little bit
expensif...
Thanks anyway.
Sam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Mpller)
Subject: Re: Question: new stty for black NeXT exists ?
References: <95Jun23.134052@ee.stanford.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:28:35 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Jun28.082835.26344@proximus.north.de>
In article <95Jun23.134052@ee.stanford.edu>,
Sang Ju Park <park@isl.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>It seems that the NeXT version of stty doesn't accept pass8
>option. I need this to display foreign characters.
For me it works:
gemoe@proximus 863> stty everything 10:18
new tty, speed 38400 baud, 24 rows, 132 columns
even odd -raw -nl echo -lcase -tandem tabs -cbreak
crtbs crterase crtkill -ctlecho -prterase -tostop
-eucbksp -flusho -mdmbuf -litout pass8 -nohang
pass8out -pendin -decctlq -noflsh -extproc
erase kill werase rprnt flush lnext susp intr quit stop eof
^? ^U ^W ^R ^O ^V ^Z/^Y ^C ^\ ^S/^Q ^D
gemoe@proximus 864> grep stty ~/.zdir/.zshrc 10:19
stty pass8 pass8out
gemoe@proximus 865> echo "give me some umlauts: öŮöű (Not ISO-Latin-1)ź" 10:21
give me some umlauts: öŮöű (Not ISO-Latin-1)ź
But you might use Terminal or something similar, and have configured
your Alt-Key to META. Check the settings of your terminal emulatioen.
Also note carefully that not all shells are 8-bit clean. zsh is, btw.
Finally I hope you know that not every shell utility handles 8 bits. But
most GNU stuff does.
While we're on it: I am not Able to produce (type) the big umlauts
in the shell, even Ctrl-V does not work, I get some strange Contol
characters: echo '^Ö^Ĺ^Ú'
Finally: NeXTs stty does not understand "sane", does anyone know a
stty that does?
Gerhard.
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Setup help
Message-ID: <DAuL2G.CB3@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <3snaas$54@rainix.jena.thur.de>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:03:52 GMT
In article <3snaas$54@rainix.jena.thur.de> rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer
Sokoll) writes:
> Narasingarao Sreenath (sree@veda.esys.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
> : Hi:
>
> : I am a new OmniWeb user. When I open any Web page in OmniWeb all images
appear
> : as blank icons. I have to double click on the icons and then the images
open up
> : in ImageViewer.
>
> : Is this a limitation of the current version of OmniWeb, or is this a
set-up
> : problem.
>
> : Any help is appreciated.
>
> : Thanks in advance.
> : --
>
> Simply set in OmniWeb's Preferences "Auto-fetch inline images" to on.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Rainer
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I think you have to installe OmniImageFilter in your LocalLibrary/Services
directory to see the pictures. Auto-fetch inline images didn't solve this
problem, when it happened to me weeks ago.
Nice greetings from Munich
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Subject: X11 for Intel ?????
Message-ID: <1995Jun27.220457.12358@roper.uwyo.edu>
From: OBELIX@
Date: 27 Jun 95 22:04:57 MDT
Distribution: world
Is there a FREE, or shareware, X11 server for NeXTStep such as Xmouse ??
The only thing I found for Intel platform is co-Xist and CubX but I would really like something free.... Did anyone
compile the X11R5 stuff so that it would run on Intel platforms ???
PS: please reply thru e-mail...
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS 3.3J from NeXT?
Date: 28 Jun 1995 06:28:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3sqspq$3kv@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi,
Just read in c.s.n.a that NeXT has finished work on 3.3 J. That sort
of puts me to wondering .. I thought 3.3J can only be obtained from Canon in
Japan, but the announcement say it "is world-wide available", and the contact
address given in the post does not include Canon.
I am going to give them a call sometimes this week. If you're
interested in what they got to say, drop me a mail.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: LaTEX2html or LaTEX2rtf for NESXTSTEP ?
Message-ID: <DAvDo7.5wJ@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <3sm4ra$ogv@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 06:21:42 GMT
In article <3sm4ra$ogv@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI
Winfried Ritsch) writes:
> Has anyone compiled or installed these programs an NeXTSTEP 3.3 ??
> please mail me.
>
> I downloaded both of them und tried to compile them and here is my report:
>
>
> LaTEX2html:
> Needed Perl 5.00, that was not the problem...
> Needed PBM-PLUS or NETPBM ???, dont know, where to get this, wht is this.
> Needed ghostscript ? cant get it for NeXTStep since there is enough
> postscript things ... ???
>
I got pbm off of cs.orst.edu, and ghostscript from one of the gnu archives.
You will need them. Once you get all the pieces assembled and compiled,
it will work. I did it.
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
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From: dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: uudecode selection service?
Date: 28 Jun 1995 07:49:00 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3sr1hc$s9r@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com> <3spkp5$8st@news.iastate.edu>
rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) wrote:
> In article <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com> mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack)
> writes:
> >
> > Anyone have a service that uudecodes a selection (e.g. in Mail.app) and
> opens
> > the resulting file?
> Yes, the NEXTSTEP 3.3 mail application does this very nicely!
But only in Mail
For other uuencoded things (binaries posted to newsgroups, for example) try
Tickle Services -> Pipe To...
then type uudecode in the panel that appears.
Dave
From: christoph.wick@gmd.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for oo-casetool
Date: 28 Jun 1995 09:10:21 GMT
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sr69t$oub@omega.gmd.de>
Hi,
I'm looking for an NeXTStep-based object-oriented casetool using
Rambaugh's "Obejct oriented modelling and design". I think about something
like Westmount-OMT on SUN-Workstation.
Any ideas, applications, adresses... (even a Diagramm-palette would be
better then nothing)
Please answer using eMail/NeXTMail to Christop.Wick@gmd.de
c.u. cw
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z.Z. GMD FIT.MMK, D-53754 St. Augustin, Germany,
Fon: +49 2241 14 2829
Fax: +49 2241 14 2065 NeXT-Mail/E-Mail: Christoph.Wick@gmd.de
Privat: L hrstrasse 48, D-56068 Koblenz, Germany, Fon.: +49 261 37124
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From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 25 Jun 1995 22:51:23 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <3skp9b$ohq@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <3s6rrn$mul@www.its.com>
> "-- The mouse (not the keyboard) is the primary instrument for user
input."
>
There is one key-equivalent I would really like to see. It is a rare event when
I "save" or "quit" using the mouse and menu. Once on the save panel (or any
other similar panel), I would like to be able to move the return key equivalent
from the "accept" button to one of the other choices with, say, the tab key.
The access time of two keys on opposite sides of the board is much better than
a transfer to the mouse-find the cursor-click routine for the very common
commands.
-Paul Buckley
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: voice/data/fax modems
Date: 25 Jun 1995 22:54:25 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <3skpf1$ohs@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <3s6jel$lfe@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
In answer to my question
> > What modems does Nextstep work with natively
gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl wrote
.. a little stuff deleted...
> As far as I understand, none that you can still buy.
> Get NXfax, or JollysZyxelFax (for ZyXel) or Jollys2.0Fax (for all others)
> and pay Jolly his shareware fee.
Ok. But do I have to get a Zyxel if I want to use 'am' with voice/fax/data
handling, or is there another brand? It seems not.
-Paul
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Little bugger 'sendmail -q' does not work for users...
Date: 28 Jun 95 09:33:31 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.804332011@coricopat>
References: <3rv4pg$n77@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <3s99ij$fen@highway.LeidenUniv.nl>
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl> writes:
>peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki) wrote:
>>It seems that only root can do sendmail -q on my machine. Everyone else gets
>>Permission denied.
>What's even weirder (and more useless) is that when I make a suid root
>shellscript (on my home machine with no untrusted users) which calls sendmail
>this way, it still does not work. You have to be REALLY root...
Create a binary setuid program. Many OSes don't allow suid shell scripts.
Rgds,
Chris
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 26 Jun 1995 15:04:13 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sn0bd$87u@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <950617115330.227AACUX.malc@daneel> <3s3kr6$1k5@gjalp.ifi.uio.no> <3s4r7k$16uk@digdug.pencom.com> <3s56l6$el0@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <3sa23f$sk6@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <RDL.95Jun26011222@world.std.com>
rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes:
>OmniImage (free from Omni Group) and WriteUp ($ from AFS) and/or OpenWrite ($
>from Xanthus) allow you do all of the above. We do need a sound filtering
>service. GISO doesn't cut it.
WU doesnt let me drag and drop a MS Word doc into Edit.app (Nor does
OpenWrite). They let you import files into the apps themselves, where as
the OmniImageFilters let you drag and drop foreign files into any app that
will accept a .tiff file. That is an important distinction.
Later, John
From: deniseh@MCS.COM (Denise Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: uudecode selection service?
Date: 27 Jun 1995 18:43:14 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <3sq52i$fce@Venus.mcs.com>
References: <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com>
Mike Matlack (mikem@afs.com) wrote:
: Anyone have a service that uudecodes a selection (e.g. in Mail.app) and opens
: the resulting file?
If you have Tickleservices, there's a TickleService for this which I can
send you. Doesn't matter whether you have NeXT$STEP 3.3 or not. :-)
Denise
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics
Subject: Re: Need IBM .TIF -> NeXT TIFF conv. util.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics
Date: 28 Jun 1995 12:09:34 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3srgpu$rr3@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <3sp0rc$kdg@mustang.alleg.edu>
ANI (guptaa@alleg.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know of how to convert IBM .TIF format to NeXT native TIFF format?
: Opening IBM .TIF files in NEXTSTEP causes the images to come up losing much
: information. These are images saved in Adobe Photoshop for windows. Is there a
: utility to convert pdf files to NeXT native TIFF?
Well, it depends on the NeXT side a little which TIFF reader program
you use. THere are: Preview, OmniImage(Filter), ImageViewer, TiffanyII
(commercial), IconBuilder and a couple more. So my first suggestion is
to experiment a little a bit. For example, when I want to edit with
IconBuilder a picture produced with PaintShop Pro, I always first
load and save it with OmniImage.
Success,
Willem
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From: jcdavis1@unity.ncsu.edu (Joseph Carl Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: ppp setup
Date: 28 Jun 1995 13:20:48 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <3srkvg$16i@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
Hello out there!
I am trying to get ppp2.2 set up properly. I have a Supra14.4
modem connected to /dev/cufa. My chat script connects, and ppp
starts on both ends. I have pppd set to speed 115200 (tried 115600 as
well). These are the numbers which teh service provider says to
use.
However, the log file says, on setting up the link "speed 115200 no
supported". It connects and works anyway, but the interractive
speed for any network activity is *AWFUL!*. Packets just don't
get sent. the modem just sits there for a while, then sends a
packet or so. telnet is unusable, and Omniweb is almost so.
I can't think of a reason for this. Can anywone help me?
PLEASE? I need to be able to get some work done.
thanks.
jcd
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From: suzawa@suzawa.anatomy.emory.edu (Satoru Uzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Font Converters
Date: 28 Jun 1995 16:09:04 GMT
Organization: Emory University
Message-ID: <3srur0$da@moe.cc.emory.edu>
References: <3sosng$n2k@oslo-nntp.eunet.no> <DAuLAo.CCL@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Michael Maximilian Goedel (mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de) wrote:
: In article <3sosng$n2k@oslo-nntp.eunet.no> jan@altus.no (Jan Bratbak) writes:
: > Which are some good (and easy to use) font converters from Mac and PC to
: > NS?
: >
: > Regards,
: >
: > Jan
: I made good expericences with FONTASY. A Program running under MacOS.
: Converts fonts in any directions but you need to spend some money on it.
: Otherwise if your are not willing to spend your money, there are some
: PD-Convertes (binaries), which can be found on the NOVA CDROM from
: Walnut Creek or by ftp'ing cs.orst.edu. Sorry, but I've never tried them
: out ... :-{
: Nice Greetings from Munich
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I'm using MagicType.app and love it. It is on Third Party Application CD-ROM
from NeXT. It converts Mac and PC type 1 PostScript fonts flowlessly.
Satoru Uzawa, suzawa@unix.cc.emory.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 28 Jun 1995 21:07:45 GMT
Organization: LITNET
Message-ID: <3ssgb1$ldh@tauras.vu.lt>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu>
Harmon Craig (passim@helium.ucsd.edu) wrote:
: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote:
: > zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
: > : What kind of news readers are available for Next and
: where?
You might also want to check ftp.cs.orst.edu for a demo of
NutNews, which is multi-threaded, and MIME capable.
Peter.
From: urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra fetch speed
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 28 Jun 1995 21:10:51 GMT
Organization: LITNET
Message-ID: <3ssggr$ldh@tauras.vu.lt>
References: <3sb13t$6gr@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> <3sce6a$kek@news.xmission.com>
yackd@xmission.com wrote:
: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) wrote:
: > [...] With Alexandra [...] when I
: > change newsgroups it takes a long time to fetch those articles
: > even if there are only 3 unread ones! Something odd.
: It fetches titles for all the previously read articles still on the
: server as well as the unread ones. I wish this fetch could be
: delayed--ie, just fetch the unread titles. If I then move the
: pop-up to show *all* headers, it will fetch the rest of them. Or
: even cache the headers it has fetched in a local area (it already
: has ~/Library/Alexandra), so it doesn't have to re-fetch them
: again and then expire the cache entries after an appropriate
: amount of time. Of course, local caching should be a preference.
: It should aloow allow articles to be cached for a user settable
: time (while in that group at least so that you can quickly return
: to the article, but perhaps for the whole session, or on disk
: between sessions). Some caching options would really allow
: Alexandra to *fly*. Well, it isn't even at 1.0 yet, and source is
: available, so...
Yup, that's one of the many things I thought of while developing NutNews.app.
And it does all of the above. Fetching only unread titles, demand
fetching of read articles, and caching of articles between sessions.
Let me know what you think of it's MIME capabilities.
Peter.
From: chuck@primenet.com (Charles Knidt Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP resolv.conf file...
Date: 28 Jun 1995 19:51:53 GMT
Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010
Message-ID: <3ssbsp$gk5@nnrp3.primenet.com>
Hi..
I have had some trouble with the resolv.conf file I can't seem to get it
to work properly... I was wondering if anyone had any input thanks...
Here is the example file I have been working with my provider is
Primenet.com @ 198.68.32.11
domain cps.msu.edu
#
# Insert local name servers here
#
#
# MSU name servers
#
nameserver 35.8.2.41
nameserver 35.8.2.41
nameserver 128.247.160.56
#
# Other servers -- hopefully something will work if needed
#shadooby.cc.umich.edu
nameserver 35.1.1.91
#ns.nasa.gov
nameserver 128.102.16.10
Thanks in advance...
Chuck
chuck@primenet.com
From: Dayne Miller <dayne@spry.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Date: 28 Jun 1995 21:49:07 GMT
Organization: InterServ News Service
Message-ID: <3ssioj$kjf@data.interserv.net>
Thanks to all those who replied to my original request for enhancement suggestions to the
NS 4.0 UI. I've compiled a brief synopsis of suggested improvements based on your
answers; this list is by no means exhaustive or canonical, but attempts to convey the gist of
the answers I received. I've made no effort to credit individual authors for their ideas -- you
know who you are, and in any case most ideas came from several sources. Once again,
thanks, and with some luck maybe these ideas will see the light of day. I am *very*
encouraged by the recent posting from a NeXT employee indicating that we'll be "pleasantly
surprised" by the unveiling in August.
First, though, a brief editorial, directed at NeXT, its investors, associates, partners, and
proponents:
I have been personally involved with NEXTSTEP and NeXT computers off and on for the
last 4 years or so, on the user lever. I admire the vision behind the original cubes and the
goals which NeXT has set for itself over the years, even while I am often disappointed or
even appalled by the apparent ease with which NeXT switches focus and target audience
and often seems to abandon or snub its advocates. Nevertheless, NeXT has finally found
itself a niche where it seems to be comfortable and prosperous (i.e. the MCCA market), and I
wish the company and its employees the best of fortune.
NeXT should realize, though, that its choice to cater to Fortune 1000 companies and
government agencies does not obviate the need to remain an exciting and ground-breaking
company at all levels. The NEXTSTEP UI is much of the reason that NeXT is famous - how
many other interfaces are ever referred to as "sexy" or "slick" by the industry publications?
Much of NEXTSTEP is about empowering the individual and the organization; the
Macintosh slogan "The Power To Be Your Best" could equally apply to the philosophy
which guided *and should continue to guide* development at NeXT. PDO, EOF and other
core NeXT technologies go a long way toward accomplishing just that, and OpenStep gives
NeXT access to momentum achieved by other key players in the game. Fantastic, but NeXT
needs to never forget that behind all those megabuck deals and faceless organizations are
individual users -- the $200/hr execs who can't tell the difference between RAM and disk
space (believe me, I've met some), the graphic artist who can't get a new font to display or
load, the currency trader who has to use 7 different terminals and 6 phones and therefore
can't fit a mouse on her desk, and the countless millions who think Solitaire is "really cool"
but can't tell the difference between File Manager and Program Manager. And how about
the CEO who goes out and buys a P-133 for his desk "because I'm the boss and I'll be
*damned* if anyone else in this company has better things than me!" These are all realities of
the world in which we live, and no less so in the upper echelons of the Fortune 1000.
To survive, and more importantly to flourish, NEXTSTEP has to remain the hottest thing on
silicon. SGI knows how to do this -- their Serious Fun campaign is phenominally successful.
Microsoft knows this; why else would they be rolling the Win95 interface into NT, their
"corporate" solution? Sun knows this - witness HotJava and the deals with NetScape.
Apple knows this; QuickTime, QuickTime VR, and the whole PowerMac thing are evidence
of that. IBM (yes, IBM!!) is learning - ThinkPads, Warp, and their latest Global Solutions ad
campaign reflect that philosophy. The entire World Wide Web owes its popularity to being
"cool".
On the plus side, NeXT and NEXTSTEP have several things going for them:
1) Steve Jobs. No one else in the industry has the charisma, zealotry or ego to push a vision
so well.
2) An interface designed from the beginning with all the lessons of the Mac in mind. Though
beginning to show age, NEXTSTEP is still a great framework upon which to build.
3) Renderman. Pushed right, Pixar and its products could be a fantastic tool for marketing
NEXTSTEP. The full-length feature movie due out this fall done with Renderman could help
(details escape me at the moment).
4) NEXTIME and wavelets. To hell with fractals, "wavelets" could be the hot catch-phrase
for multimedia.
5) DOOM and QUAKE. NeXT should foster and publicize its business with the folks at Id as
much as possible.
6) The Web. Ask people about Web history nowadays, and most will mumble something
vague about NCSA or Netscape. Who wants to bet that a majority of users 18 months from
now will think Microsoft designed it? NEXTSTEP, CERN, and Tim Berners-Lee should be on
everyone's lips.
7) Object orientation. Forget for a moment the realities of the BSD underpinnings and the
like; "objects" are hot, regardless of what a company actually defines as objects, and
NeXT's leadership in this area has and will continue to give them an advantage. NT 4.0
("Cairo") is seen as awesome for the OO features it'll have (never mind that no one seems to
be able to enumerate these)- NEXTSTEP is still years ahead in that respect.
There are others, but the point should be clear: NEXTSTEP has the potential to once again
be the coolest of the cool and the slickest of the slick. Most doubt that it'll ever become a
"mass-market" OS or environment, but who cares? NeXT and NEXTSTEP can carve out
for themselves a strong market based on both the real and *perceived* benefits of
NEXTSTEP. Many of the following suggestions would help; for those of you at NeXT, I
strongly urge you to follow the advice of your advocates and users on the Internet and
incorporate these features into NS, assuming you haven't already.
And now without further ado and in no particular order, the suggested UI enhancements to
NS. Note that not all necessarily make sense for NS, nor were all agreed upon by all parties.
Anything in brackets [] is my commentary. I have doubtless missed several suggestions, as I
was gone for a week and I have a flakey news feed right now, but this should be most of
them. And I have intentionally left out most non-UI feature suggestions. Enjoy:
UI Improvement Suggestions:
1. Forward-delete.
2. Resize handles at other than bottom of window.
3. Scroll buttons at top of elevator. [I personally don't agree with this one.]
4. Drag and drop (both cut-and paste and copy-and-paste) across all windows. [Note that
some posters were very much against certain implementations of this feature.]
5. Focus-follows-pointer. [Note: like in X]
6. Mouse arrow navigation using the keyboard.
7. A removable title bar.
8. Make the ESC key the keyboard-equivalent for the "Cancel" item in alert panels, just like
the RETURN key is the short-cut for selecting the default item.
9. Support for a blow-up-this-window-to-full-screen button [i.e. Windows' "Maximize" feature]
on the title bar of windows where this is appropriate. We would want a corresponding
shrink-this-window-back-to-its-old-size button on the blown up version of the window. [Note:
this suggestion received some serious opposition].
10. Alert panel with automatic suggestion of a new monocase 8.3 file name when trying to
copy:
MyMixedCaseFileWithAReallyLongName.andBigExtension
to a DOS disk rather than just getting an error (which is obscure if the problem is just case),
having to cancel the operation, and go back to the File Viewer to change the file name of
the original document.
11. Keyboard means to change the active window.
12. A multi-tab-shelf like that in Netsurfer.app, the new InterfaceBuilder and MindShare.
[Perhaps only if an option?]
13. A float toggle button, like that found in TIFFany, for those windows created as floating.
[One poster wrote: "Don't know how often those buggers get in the way of what I'm
REALLY trying to do, and I just want to push them back out of the way."]
14. An improved dock/shelf/etc, like Fiend.
15. The ability to select multiple or non-contiguous text blocks [much like Nisus Writer's
ability on the Mac].
16. Support for the MS Keyboard's extra buttons [note that someone suggested having little
plastic stickers for the keyboard to cover up or supplement the Windows logos on those
keys.]
17. Faster workspace: It is still much faster to access files by typing their path into the edit
browser.
18. Aliases for docked icons. When you put an icon on the workspace dock, it takes the
last part of the path. This may be the same for several directories in an organized tree,
allowing the user to specify an alias to be displayed instead. Eg. for directories of the form
/home/<user>/workArea, all docked icons display as 'workArea'. An alias would allow me to
specify '<user>.work'
19. Built-in services expander (such as Tickle Services)
20. Ability to reorganize services list. [Note: the example of one poster follows: "I use a few
services all the time,and the rest some of the time. Instead of only giving me a command key
equivalent (which doesn't work much because there aren't many left and many are already
taken by other programs) how about allowing me to reorganize the services hierarchy. I want
to move services/mail/selection to services/<>. I want to move services/omniweb/open
URL to services<>. Being able to reorganize this would make it much faster for each user."]
21. Keyboard access to menus [Note this is *not* just keyboard equivalents; a user should
be able to access and navigate through the menu hierachy, like navigating the Browser.]
22. In the File Viewer, while dragging file(s) in a Copy/Move operation, the ability to click the
second mouse button to toggle between Copy/Move/Link. [Note: one poster's example
follows: "I pull 5 files from one filesystem to another and the default is Copy, so I click the
second mouse button once and it switches to Move, and then I drop the files."]
23. Scalable icons or, alternately, an entirely scalable workspace. This would be of particular
use with laptop screens, where screen real estate is at a premium. Replacing TIFF icons
with PostScript equivalents would be a good place to start. [Attn. NeXT: This seemed to be
a major point, and one upon which everyone agreed!]
24. The ability to "su" from the FileViewer. A user should be able to open a new viewer with
a different UID (which should be identified in the title-bar of the viewer). Apps could be
launched from that FileViewer as though by the other user.
25. Applications should remember the last dir the user was working in and make the
open/save panel go in there directly when they show up.
26. A keyboard means to Page Up/Down.
27. A control button should be added to the title bar of windows to drag the document in that
window. [This is currently done by Alt-dragging the miniaturize button.]
Here's some stuff I consider important, but not necessarily part of the UI:
1. Full OpenDoc support. [This is *vital*. NeXT needs to incorporate OpenDoc or come up
with something better that can interoperate with OpenDoc - for a operating environment so
gung-ho on "objects", the lack of a component strategy is appalling. Kudos to Xanthus for
its efforts in this area, but we need a system-wide approach.]
2. Built-in dial-on-demand PPP [this is essential in the current on-line world].
3. Support for NTFS, HPFS, and [maybe] VFAT [ugghh]. Perhaps these are on the way
anyway because of the NT and Win95 OpenStep ports.
4. A recordable NEXTIME with support for MPEG, AVI, and QuickTime VR formats, fully
integrated into all aspects of the OS.
5. The ability to install on other than the boot drive.
6. A customizable boot selector. "n for nextstep, d for dos" is really lame. Take a hint from
NT's menu, OS/2's Boot Manager, or V Communication's System Commander.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: ScorePlayer.app
Message-ID: <DAwG26.Dzv@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <1995Jun27.220304.12586@free.fdn.org>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:10:53 GMT
In article <1995Jun27.220304.12586@free.fdn.org> Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org
writes:
> mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel) wrote:
> [munch]
> > There is a binary called playscore in /usr/bin.
>
> > Nice Greetings from Munich
> > --
> > __ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10
> > /\_\ KARSTADT AG Haus Oberpollinger Muenchen | 81543 Muenchen
> > \/_/ mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (NeXTmail) | Tel.: +49 89 65 29
18
> > NeXTSTEP! CompuServe ID: 100663,25 | Work: +49 89 29 02 54
> 18
> fabien@free> man playscore
> No manual entry for playscore.
> 8^(
>
> fabien@free> playscore
>
>
> The playscore program performs a scorefile by playing it on the DSP
> and/or MIDI.
> It's invoked as
>
> playscore [options] <scorefile>
>
> If the specified file isn't an absolute path, the program searches for
> it in the following directories, in order:
>
> The current working directory
> ~/Library/Music/Scores
> /LocalLibrary/Music/Scores
> /NextLibrary/Music/Scores.
>
> The '.playscore' or '.score' extension, which identify a file as a
> scorefile, can be omitted -- the program will append it for you. If you
> leave off the extension and both a '.playscore' and a '.score' version
> are
> present, the '.playscore' version is choosen.
>
> The following options are recognized:
> -q Quiet mode. All print-out is surpressed.
> -d Debug mode. This leaves room for the Ariel Bug56
> debugger on the DSP.
> -f Fast mode -- uses a ScorefilePerformer.
> Usually, playscore reads the entire scorefile
> before
> playing it. By using a ScorefilePerformer, the
> program can read the file on the fly. The
> performance begins sooner but puts a heavier demand
> on the main CPU than does the default.
> -r <count> Repeat performance the specified number of times.
> -w <soundfile> Write the DSP sample output as the named soundfile.
> The '.snd' extension is automatically appended to
> the file name.
> -c <soundfile> Write the DSP commands output as the named
> soundfile.
> The '.snd' extension is automatically appended to
> the file name.
> For futher details, see the playscore MAN page.
> -----------------------------------------^^^ Kidding?
> fabien@free>
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted)
> Fabien Roy Consultant
> NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA
> 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France
> Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
Now what ?????????????????? Fabien
muaddib:110# playscore Gamelan.score
playscore reading Gamelan.score...
...done
playing...
...done
muaddib:111# pwd
/NextLibrary/Music/Scores
muaddib:112#
Seems to work, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ;-)
Nice Greetings from Munich
--
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From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Date: 29 Jun 1995 00:07:55 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <3ssqsr$972@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <3ssioj$kjf@data.interserv.net>
In article <3ssioj$kjf@data.interserv.net>,
Dayne Miller <dayne@spry.com> wrote:
[....]
>3) Renderman. Pushed right, Pixar and its products could be a fantastic tool for marketing
>NEXTSTEP. The full-length feature movie due out this fall done with Renderman could help
>(details escape me at the moment).
Um, so what? How many dozens of movies and shows have used Lightwave and
others?
The truth is, nobody will come to NeXT for this market any more. Lightwave
went *to* Windows NT. 3d hardware is going *to* NT and 95. Nobody with any
sense would even give NeXT(-dimension fiasco/ripoff) the time of day.
>4) NEXTIME and wavelets. To hell with fractals, "wavelets" could be the hot catch-phrase
>for multimedia.
Yes, NeXTTIME is in really good shape compared to Video for Windows and
Quicktime. It's programming API is both deep and thoroughly documented,
and the performance can't be beat. All the demonstrations prove this.
Remember: The Amiga was the king of multimedia. Everyone was going to
flock to it, ensuring it's future. Then the Mac was the king of multimedia.
[...]
>Here's some stuff I consider important, but not necessarily part of the UI:
>
>1. Full OpenDoc support. [This is *vital*. NeXT needs to incorporate OpenDoc or come up
>with something better that can interoperate with OpenDoc - for a operating environment so
>gung-ho on "objects", the lack of a component strategy is appalling. Kudos to Xanthus for
>its efforts in this area, but we need a system-wide approach.]
Who's OpenDoc should NeXT use as an implementation example? IBM's non-shipping
OpenDoc or Apple's non-shipping OpenDoc or Taligent's non-shipping OpenDoc?
[...]
>4. A recordable NEXTIME with support for MPEG, AVI, and QuickTime VR formats, fully
>integrated into all aspects of the OS.
Oh my.
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Line In on a SB16-> Does it work? (nth request)
Date: 28 Jun 1995 19:02:22 GMT
Organization: LakeHaven, Toronto, Canada
Message-ID: <3ss8vu$5q1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
How do you get this to work? It's a minor inconvenience, but it would be nice
to listen to CD's through my speakers without using splitters. It works fine in
DOS of all things, and NeXT Answers seems to claim that it works. Any and
all info appreciated!....Philip
Philip McDunnough
LakeHaven , {Where sheep may safely graze...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu, {NeXT Mail Preferred}
--
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LakeHaven, {Where sheep may safely graze ...}
philip@utstat.toronto.edu,{NeXT Mail preferred}
From: hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: LaTEX2html or LaTEX2rtf for NESXTSTEP ?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 07:53:45 +0200
Organization: The Home Of The Pilhuhn
Message-ID: <3stf59$5mj@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.de>
References: <3sm4ra$ogv@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> <DAvDo7.5wJ@moksha.uucp>
mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) writes:
>I got pbm off of cs.orst.edu, and ghostscript from one of the gnu archives.
And then we have this fine postscrip engine already built in in
NextStep - I don't see the point of installing and maintaining
ghostscript just for this little app ..
--
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USENET is a wonderful mechanism for making a fool of yourself in front
of a very large audience.
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From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 29 Jun 1995 06:42:30 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3sti0m$e3u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3ssioj$kjf@data.interserv.net>
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Dayne Miller (dayne@spry.com) wrote:
: Thanks to all those who replied to my original request for enhancement suggestions to the
: NS 4.0 UI. I've compiled a brief synopsis of suggested improvements based on your
: answers;
[...]
While reading the whole bunch of stuff, I've come up with some new ideas not
already mentioned in the discussion:
1) Tab filename expansion in Open/Save-Panels like tcsh does would be really
handy.
2) There should be a way to define Icons for non-writeable directories,
e.g. I've mounted the campus' ftp-server but am not able to have an Icon
for it 'cause I can't say to the admin of the Server "Hey, I want an
Icon..."
3) It would be nice to have a Mouse-Operation for killing an Application.
Going through the Menu takes way too long when an App is running wild eating
up swap and keeping the paging system thrashing. Could be an expert option
in Workspace and be bound to CMD-ALT-Doubleklick on the app icon. (including
the asking-panel).
Axel
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From: eld@netcom.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: easier than PNI?
Message-ID: <eldDAxA70.9Gr@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 07:01:47 GMT
Sender: eld@netcom12.netcom.com
Is there any software out there that is easier to configure than TransSYS
PNI? I have been working with this app for about a week and I CANNOT
configure it to save my life.
if not, is there a faq or better documentation anywhere?
eld
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From: falkman@hegel2.cs.chalmers.se.u.cs.chalmers.se (G|ran Falkman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SICSTUS Prolog under NeXTstep?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 08:24:02 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology
Message-ID: <3stnv2$hab@nyheter.chalmers.se>
References: <3sog00$qq3@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
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In article <3sog00$qq3@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>, you wrote:
> Has anyone used SICSTUS Prolog under NeXTstep?
> We are developing rule based applications on NeXTstep Intel platform
> and it was suggested that we should use Prolog.
> What is SICSTUS Prolog like? Are there 'better' alternatives? Any
> pitfalls or problem areas?
> Thanks.
> Gerald McMullon
> BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, England
We are using SICStus Prolog under NEXTSTEP (Motorola and PA-RISC) without any
problems.
-------------------------------------
Göran Falkman Email: falkman@cs.chalmers.se
Department of Computing Science Tel: + 46 31 772 5412
Chalmers University of Technology Fax: + 46 31 16 56 55
S-412 96 Göteborg, Sweden
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: uudecode selection service?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 08:25:09 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <950629092509.6168AACUG.malc@daneel>
References: <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com> <3spkp5$8st@news.iastate.edu>
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> Yes, the NEXTSTEP 3.3 mail application does this very nicely!
>
This prompts an awkward question:
If you're running 3.2, is it legal to use Mail.app (and the Mail.app alone)
from 3.3?
Have fun,
mmalc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus)
Subject: Re: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Message-ID: <DAxGsu.CMy@localhost.com>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 09:24:29 GMT
In article <3sti0m$e3u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel
Habermann) writes:
> Dayne Miller (dayne@spry.com) wrote:
> : Thanks to all those who replied to my original request for enhancement
suggestions to the
> : NS 4.0 UI. I've compiled a brief synopsis of suggested improvements based
on your
> : answers;
> [...]
>
> While reading the whole bunch of stuff, I've come up with some new ideas not
> already mentioned in the discussion:
>
> 1) Tab filename expansion in Open/Save-Panels like tcsh does would be really
> handy.
Already works in 3.3 (with ESC. Read the Power Tips manual).
> 3) It would be nice to have a Mouse-Operation for killing an Application.
> Going through the Menu takes way too long when an App is running wild eating
> up swap and keeping the paging system thrashing. Could be an expert option
> in Workspace and be bound to CMD-ALT-Doubleklick on the app icon. (including
> the asking-panel).
Why not by dropping the App's icon into the Recycler?
(BTW don't worry about docked icons disappearing. When they're running,
they won't be removed from the dock by a simple drag-and-drop anyway.)
The more I think about this feature the nicer it becomes...
Volker
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From: mdaniels@wnjlaw.com (Mike Daniels)
Message-ID: <9506281642.AA08476@wnjlaw.com>
Subject: Mosaic
I'm trying to find a WWW browser that will work on a mostly-black NeXTstep 3.2 network.
Right now, I have the Mosaic source code and am wondering if anyone knows how I should
configure it to compile properly.
Or, if anyone knows of some other program that might work better on a NeXT, please let me
know. Thanks!
Mike Daniels
From: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: LaTEX2html or LaTEX2rtf for NEXTSTEP ?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 14:17:07 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
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In article <3snlvf$o9r@vodka.intele.net> mike@child (Michael Emmel) writes:
>ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch) wrote:
>>Has anyone compiled or installed these programs an NeXTSTEP 3.3 ??
>>please mail me.
>
snip, snip, snip
>
>I got it workin kinda I qiut becase its not worth it the convertrs
>cannot handle any special stuff like mathamatics etc.
>
>You may be able to go dvi->ps->html but probably not.
>
I have a similar problem. I typeset a textbook containing lots of
equations and figures (all done in LaTeX with the original figures
done in PicTeX and included as eps files). Now it's time for a
second printing and we are correcting lots of little errors. I'm
working on setting up a WWW site for the changes to the book to make
them easily available to those who bought the first printing.
I haven't found any suitable method to deal with all the Greek letters
and math symbols used. The best I've done so far is to go the
dvi->ps->html route, which images full pages as a gif representation
of an eps file, but this may be very slow and I'm not sure how well
this will appear to PC and Mac users with various browsers. I use a
NeXT and it looks great there, and it's not too bad using Mosaic on a
Sun, but I haven't tried accessing them from other computers.
LaTeX2html made little graphics files for Greek symbols and math,
and didn't look very good at all. We have Pages with the Webpages
stuff, OpenWrite with the beta HTML support, and I've tried
eText5. None of these have blown me away, but I'm willing to
experiment more with them.
I'd really like the math to look good (preferably in the LucidaBright
font we used for the book) and the figures to be legible. It would be
really nice if the visitors to our WWW site could get good printouts
of the changed pages, but I'll probably provide separate PS files for
each page via FTP for that.
If anyone has any suggestions that would help me realize these goals
(using software that runs under Nextstep), I will be most
appreciative.
thanks,
rick
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From: shenning@Cornell-Iowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTeX2HTML
Date: 29 Jun 1995 14:37:48 GMT
Organization: Cornell College, Mount Vernon, IA, USA
Distribution: world
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I have LaTeX2html running, it converst fine if I don't have
anything which needs to be turned into pictures. What I need to
get everything working is GhostScript. I can't find a compiled
version for Intel. There is a x68k at Oregon State.
I downloaded the gs2.6.2 and it compiled fine until it hit the X
stuff. I don't have X on my system, but I need GhostScript for
LaTeX2html.
So if anyone knows of an Intel binary or a way to get around the
X stuff could you let me know.
Thanks.
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From: Paul Gould <P.W.Gould@liv.ac.uk>
Subject: LaTeX2e, TeXview and PS fonts
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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:32:42 GMT
I've installed LaTeX2e and the new tfm, vf and fd files for the Times, Helvetica and
Courier fonts: no problems there. TeXview works fine using Computer Modern, but it
no-longer recognises the PS fonts, so the preview display is next to useless and it tries to
get metafont to generate the 'missing' fonts. What do I have to do to get TeXview to use
the existing PS fonts for display? (Dvips works with the new fonts, BTW.)
Thanks in advance,
Paul
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From: gcl@sojourn1.sojourn.com (gcl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with Zmodem please
Date: 29 Jun 1995 01:13:40 GMT
Organization: Sojourn Systems. Lansing, MI (USA)
Message-ID: <3ssuo4$h5h@tkhut.sojourn.com>
I've been using kermit for years because it's easy to use and it works,
but now the service I call into is dogging me because they don't want to
support it. Years ago when I tried to use Zmodem I couldn't get it to
work, but now that I am using Mux maybe it will work.
Can somebody please help me get Zmodem to work, ie: a procedure to use.
I use Nextstep for Intel v3.2 and Mux v1.7 and a US Robotics Courier 28.8
Thank you very much.....
Gary
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From: cee5231@tam2000.tamu.edu (Christina E. Eaton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP! can't open DSP!
Date: 27 Jun 1995 20:09:52 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Tx
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3spoig$cj3@news.tamu.edu>
When I run Scoreplayer.app, SoftPC, and many other apps that use
the DSP, I get a message saying "Can't open DSP." No other programs
(that might affect this) are running. Any clues?
Thanks.
-c
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:13:06 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Volker Herminghaus (vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de) wrote:
: In article <3sti0m$e3u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel
: Habermann) writes:
: > 3) It would be nice to have a Mouse-Operation for killing an Application.
: > Going through the Menu takes way too long when an App is running wild eating
: > up swap and keeping the paging system thrashing. Could be an expert option
: > in Workspace and be bound to CMD-ALT-Doubleklick on the app icon. (including
: > the asking-panel).
: Why not by dropping the App's icon into the Recycler?
: (BTW don't worry about docked icons disappearing. When they're running,
: they won't be removed from the dock by a simple drag-and-drop anyway.)
Ever tried to do dragging under heavy load?
I would prefer a method that really works even if the machine
is in 'slow motion mode', because this would be used especially
for _quickly_ killing a process eating up resources.
: The more I think about this feature the nicer it becomes...
But not by dragging, please :-)
Axel
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From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: uudecode selection service?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:26:42 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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David A. Coyle (dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de) wrote:
: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) wrote:
: > In article <3spb63$dqh@shelob.afs.com> mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack)
: > writes:
: > >
: > > Anyone have a service that uudecodes a selection (e.g. in Mail.app) and
: > opens
: > > the resulting file?
: > Yes, the NEXTSTEP 3.3 mail application does this very nicely!
: But only in Mail
: For other uuencoded things (binaries posted to newsgroups, for example) try
: Tickle Services -> Pipe To...
: then type uudecode in the panel that appears.
You can roll your own in Terminal.app, if you don't have TickleServices
installed. Specific description omitted, cause I don't sit at my NeXT
right now.
Axel
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From: Gerald McMullon <gfg@info.bt.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sound card with digital inputs?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:38:21 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
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Anyone know of a sound card with digital inputs that works with
NS (even if only as a Sound Blaster type card)?
Digital Music CardD is 645 GBR and an additional 245 GBR for the
i/o CardD that boasts S/PDIF digital input and output sockets.
They have a digital only card for 450 GBR. I've not seen a driver
for it, or a review.
Thanks
Gerald McMullon
From: mcnext@aol.com (McNeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Date: 29 Jun 1995 12:56:53 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Fantastic list you did harp upon but the first and formeost NeXT needs is
basic
HIRE MICROSOFT"S MARKETING & PUBLICITY EXECS
MARKETING< MARKETING<MARKETING
DO this and they will come
From: cello@virgil.harvard.edu (Sean Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sound card with digital inputs?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:49:14 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
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References: <3suktt$9br@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Gerald McMullon (gfg@info.bt.co.uk) wrote:
: Anyone know of a sound card with digital inputs that works with
: NS (even if only as a Sound Blaster type card)?
: Gerald McMullon
Alas, no
There are no direct-digital cards for NeXTStep FIP. Basically,
the problem is two-fold. 1) There are no drivers for any of
these cards--Digital Only card, and the Zefiro Labs ZA2. 2) Even
if there WERE drivers, there would still be problem with playback
because the SOUNDKIT is still broken.
NeXT is working on it, but until then we're stuck.
It's really sad this has been the case ever since NS-FIP came out.
< 2 years is too long to wait for a soundfile to play back properly.
Sean
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Harvard Computer Music Studio
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From: doyle@mmm.lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: LaTEX2html or LaTEX2rtf for NEXTSTEP ?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 17:44:28 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
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References: <3sm4ra$ogv@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> <3snlvf$o9r@vodka.intele.net> <3sucl3$hgh@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray) wrote:
> In article <3snlvf$o9r@vodka.intele.net> mike@child (Michael Emmel) writes:
> >ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch) wrote:
> >>Has anyone compiled or installed these programs an NeXTSTEP 3.3 ??
> >>please mail me.
> >
> snip, snip, snip
> >
> >I got it workin kinda I qiut becase its not worth it the convertrs
> >cannot handle any special stuff like mathamatics etc.
> >
> >You may be able to go dvi->ps->html but probably not.
> >
> I haven't found any suitable method to deal with all the Greek letters
> and math symbols used. The best I've done so far is to go the
> dvi->ps->html route, which images full pages as a gif representation
> of an eps file, but this may be very slow and I'm not sure how well
> this will appear to PC and Mac users with various browsers. I use a
> NeXT and it looks great there, and it's not too bad using Mosaic on a
> Sun, but I haven't tried accessing them from other computers.
> If anyone has any suggestions that would help me realize these goals
> (using software that runs under Nextstep), I will be most
> appreciative.
Well, I don't know if I have a specific solution to your problem, but we take a different
approach at our physics/math electronic preprint archive http://xxx.lanl.gov/ .
We feel strongly that trying to get the functionality of TeX in HTML is completely the
wrong approach. Instead we put the functionality of the web into TeX by re-writing the
standard macros to automatically create hyper-TeX and hyper-PS (which can then be
distilled into PDF). This functionality is being built into LaTeX3.0. There are hyperdvi
viewers for NS (Dmitri Linde and I hacked Tom Rokicki's TeXview --- my version does
multiple windows) and there is xhdvi for X-windows. Also, for hyperps Tanmoy
Bhattacharya has hacked ghostview.
Anyway, you might be interested in looking it over. See http://xxx.lanl.gov/hypertex/
for more.
Cheers,
Mark
http://nqcd.lanl.gov/people/doyle/doyle.html
Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:01:41 GMT
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From: Gary Longsine <glongsi>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backup with rdist
Date: 28 Jun 1995 00:27:21 GMT
Organization: USWest SA news server
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The most common cause of a "permission denied" message when setting up rdist
jobs is a lack of an appropriate entry in the user's ".rhosts" file.
rdist and rcp are part of the "r" utilities, where "r" stands for remote. They
all require .rhost files.
In your case, in the top level of the home directory of the user which owns the
rdist job, you'll make a file called ".rhosts" and in that file you'll have one
entry:
myhostname myusername
I know it seems kind of silly to have to do this when your on the same machine,
but it's likely the source of your trouble.
/gary longsine
jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) wrote:
>I would like to use rdist to back up certain directories onto a second
>scsi hard drive mounted *locally*. Is this possible? I keep getting the
>message
>
> updating myhost
> Permission denied.
>
>rdist has so many nice features (incremental backup, extraneous files
>removed, notification by email, ...), I'm hoping I won't have to resort to
>ditto. Ideas?
>
>Thanks for your time and advice. My sample distfile follows.
>
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Want your PPP config files...
Date: 28 Jun 1995 15:07:59 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ss9af$bnf@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Hi, I cant figure how to get a link established using PPP-2.2-0.3.3 on my
machine. I was hoping that someone who already has got their link going
would be kind enough to email me copies of all their config files (minus
passwords and other sensitive stuff of course).
Thanks for any/all help.
Later, John
From: rprice@reunion.umd.edu (Rodney Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: memory leak in OmniWeb?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 21:00:05 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3sv48l$lkd@hecate.umd.edu>
I have OmniWeb version 1.0 prerelease 2 on my NS 3.2 slab, in ~/Apps,
OmniImage version 3.2 in /LocalApps, and OmniImageFilter.service version
3.2 in /LocalLibrary/Services. Everything works fine, but if I use
OmniWeb for any extended period, my swapfile grows until it takes the
entire disk. I don't like rebooting after every OmniWeb session --
can anyone tell me what is wrong?
Thanks,
Rod Price
rprice@reunion.umd.edu
From: a5qqc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (Hong Hsu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help on sending a fax
Date: 29 Jun 1995 16:09:57 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/University Computer Center
Message-ID: <3suj8l$20id@news.cuny.edu>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.hardware ]
[ Author was Hong Hsu ]
[ Posted on 29 Jun 1995 15:31:41 GMT ]
I have a question on sending a fax under NextStep 3.3 on Intel
machine.
I have been using communication software called 5A C-kermit for
logining to remote computer via ZOOM 28.8 faxmodem. It works perfectly!
In order to use kermit.app, I set line /dev/cub and it works
perfectly. Now I like to send a fax through my ZOOM 28.8 faxmodem.
Starting up PrintManager.app in NextApps folder, choose Fax Moderms from
the menu and click Create. The question is that what is the Local Name I
should input? ZOOM? or something else? What is type I can choose? HSD
FaxModem, Interfax Fax Modem, or something else? Reading on-line help and
documentation didn't help much.
I tried LocalName ZOOM_Fax_Modem and Port B. It conflicts with
lock file of kermit.app residing on /dev/cub as they use
/usr/spool/uucp/LCK..cub.
Does someone has experience on figure out these stuff? Any suggestion
will be appreciated.
- Hong
vhong@puma.cs.qc.edu
From: Mike Campfield <mrc@rahul.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Driver for Adaptec AIC7850
Date: 29 Jun 1995 22:35:47 GMT
Organization: a2i network
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-User: mrc
Summary: need driver for Adaptec AIC7850
Keywords: Adaptec AIC7850
I'm working on an Intel Multibus system which is a complete 486DX-4
system on a board. My customer is trying to load NextStep 3.2 (They're a
medical company and for approval and qualification reasons they're on 3.2
and they're using the multibus board). They are running an IDE drive,
but the problem seems to be that they have to load NextStep from CD and
apparently NextStep does not support the Adaptec AIC7850 which is on the
board.
I've checked the recently posted "NextStep Resources" and several of the
sources listed there, but no luck yet. If anyone has a source for a
driver could you please e-mail me, as I'll be out of town and out of
touch for the next 2 weeks, and my service provider doesn't typically
keep messages longer than that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Mike Campfield (mrc@rahul.net)
Manufacturing Engineer
Anthem Electronics
San Jose, CA 95131
408-452-2382
408-441-4513 FAX
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From: jacob@dannug.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP resolv.conf file...
Date: 29 Jun 1995 20:39:46 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3sv32i$ar@jnext.dannug.dk>
References: <3ssbsp$gk5@nnrp3.primenet.com>
Under NS3.3, I got name servers working by forgetting about 'resolv.conf'
and putting the information into NetInfo (under '/locations/resolver')
Happy PPP'ing,
Jacob
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CryptoBundle Location for 3.3??
Date: 29 Jun 1995 21:28:41 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3sv5ua$fqk@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3sn5rs$n8t@newsflash.tss.com>
collison@tss.com (Derek Collison) wrote:
> Does anyone know where I may be able to find CryptoBundle for
> NS 3.3?
>
> Thanks in advance...
Just use the same CryptorBundle you used for NS-3.2. It seems to
work fine for me. What didn't work so well was when I upgraded to
PGP 2.6.2. Something about it and CryptorBundle didn't seem to
work right, when sending to someone else running CryptorBundle
with PGP 2.6. I only did a few tests though, so maybe it was
just something I did wrong on those messages.
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From: ajafri@gold.interlog.com (Amir Jafri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help using function keys
Date: 29 Jun 1995 22:43:07 GMT
Organization: Interlog Internet Services -Voice (416) 975-2655 -Data 515-1414
Message-ID: <3sva9r$8qm@steel.interlog.com>
Hello.
Can anyone tell me a quick way to set up a NeXT ADB keyboard
using NS3.0, to enable function key services. You know, like
PF1, PF2 etc. I need to use Terminal to telnet to a remote site
and use some vt100 applications that require them.
Thanks
AJ.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Mosaic
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Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <9506281642.AA08476@wnjlaw.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:15:13 GMT
In article <9506281642.AA08476@wnjlaw.com> mdaniels@wnjlaw.com (Mike Daniels)
writes:
> I'm trying to find a WWW browser that will work on a mostly-black NeXTstep
3.2 network.
> Right now, I have the Mosaic source code and am wondering if anyone knows how
I should
> configure it to compile properly.
>
> Or, if anyone knows of some other program that might work better on a NeXT,
please let me
> know. Thanks!
>
> Mike Daniels
You can find the following WWW-Client on ftp.cs.orst.edu or on
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
OmniWeb.app (+ OmniImageFilter.service for Images)
Nice Greetings from Munich
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Alexandra.app version 0.8b available - WITH BINARY
Date: 29 Jun 1995 22:42:19 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <3sva8b$hv0@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <DAqty9.Bv@gurke.ping.de>
tini@gurke.ping.de wrote:
> Version 0.8b is a bugfix release.
> Right now, there's only the source code distribution, but a quad
> fat binary version is comming soon.
I've picked up the 0.8b source code, compiled it quad-fat, and
made it available for anonymous ftp. What's there is the source,
a quad-fat binary, and four single-architecture binaries. If
you're interested in trying this out, check:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/apps/Alexandra_f
which will give you a list of all the files that are available.
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From: ricardo@Pencom.COM (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Date: 30 Jun 1995 00:54:33 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <3svi09$ufb@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3sti0m$e3u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
In comp.sys.next.advocacy article <3sti0m$e3u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> you
wrote:
> 1) Tab filename expansion in Open/Save-Panels like tcsh does would
> be really handy.
How is this different from using the Esc key for filename completion. I
have not sued tcsh.
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From: klingler@mack.rt66.com (Dave Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: UI improvements for 4.0
Date: 29 Jun 1995 18:51:07 -0600
Organization: Engineering International, Inc.
Message-ID: <3svhpr$go6@mack.rt66.com>
References: <3rqoib$msb@data.interserv.net> <3rr7s1$icv@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <x5agbhksnd.fsf@localhost.vt.edu> <3scrb0$gnh@flood.xnet.com>
Joe Reiss (jreiss@vt.edu) wrote:
>7) Double-click, or select, characters (etc) with one mouse button and
>insert them somewhere else with a click of another button. In other words, do
>a copy/paste without having to a) go into edit in the menu, b) "copy",
>c) choose your insertion place and then d) "paste". Too much hassle for a
>copy/paste job. The above desirable feature already works on other, "less
>sophisticated", systems ! Why not on NS ?
Hmmm. I tend to reach up with one hand to the keyboard and use the Cut,
Copy and Paste keys. My friends who use Windows machines "Oooo" and "Ahhh"
everytime they see me do it.
Dave
From: lohmann@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail via SLIP
Date: 30 Jun 1995 01:58:43 GMT
Organization: Mass. General Hospital
Message-ID: <3svloj$d2t@bloch.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Hi out there,
who could help me in setting up mail on a white NeXT computer
that is connectet to the NET via SLIP?
Thanks, Ruediger Lohmann
lohmann@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
From: cee5231@tam2000.tamu.edu (Christina E. Eaton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP! I erased Webster!
Date: 30 Jun 1995 03:04:01 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Tx
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3svpj1$ffs@news.tamu.edu>
I accidentally erased the Webster dictionary stuff. Is there an ftp site
where I can get them?
Thnks
-c
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: memory leak in OmniWeb?
Date: 30 Jun 1995 06:59:09 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3t07bt$68u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3sv48l$lkd@hecate.umd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Rodney Price (rprice@reunion.umd.edu) wrote:
: I have OmniWeb version 1.0 prerelease 2 on my NS 3.2 slab, in ~/Apps,
: OmniImage version 3.2 in /LocalApps, and OmniImageFilter.service version
: 3.2 in /LocalLibrary/Services. Everything works fine, but if I use
: OmniWeb for any extended period, my swapfile grows until it takes the
: entire disk. I don't like rebooting after every OmniWeb session --
: can anyone tell me what is wrong?
There was a thread some time ago, where someone found out that it's
possible for memory mapped streams to leak memory when incorrectly
closed. Try upgrading to OmniImage3.2.1 and see if it helps. Maybe
you need to upgrade OmniWeb, too.
Axel
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From: gsmiller@netcom.com (Shane Miller)
Subject: how use rz/sz with kermit and NS Intel 3.3 for HP's XU 5/90?
Message-ID: <gsmillerDAz838.I46@netcom.com>
Followup-To: poster
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:11:32 GMT
Sender: gsmiller@netcom19.netcom.com
i ftp'ed rz/sz and kermit (installed on NS Intel 3.2). How do I
get rz/sz to work when I dial up via kermit? Anybody know how to
make kermit work with a USR 14.4Kb modem/fax? When it connects
it says 14400 buad illegal -- i think it ends up using 9600 baud.
also what is the current support for HP's 90 Mhz pentium also 5/90
model?
thanks
shane
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From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SGML Browser
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:49:23 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <950630094923.830AACUf.malc@daneel>
References: <DAJAyy.B3z@califhistsoc.org> <3saj9g$dg3@news.us.net> <3sc53m$829@uwm.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
If you want to know more about SGML, take a look at:
http://www.sil.org/sgml/sgml.html
I'd be interested in a NEXTSTEP SGML browser too... :-)
Having had a quick look around, though, I wonder if Earl Hood
<ehood@convex.com> 's perlSGML SGML->HTML convertor could be built into a
filter? SGML docs could then be opened as HTML.
I've just started to play around with the perl part of it now... maybe I'll
understand it by the end of next week!
Have fun,
mmalc.
posn. research facilitator
where institute for language speech and hearing
sheffield university
c/o department of computer science
regent court
211 portobello street
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email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/
From: pogrell@informatik.hu-berlin.de (Lutz Pogrell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: LaTEX2html or LaTEX2rtf for NEXTSTEP ?
Date: 30 Jun 1995 09:03:05 GMT
Organization: Humboldt-Universit"at zu Berlin
Message-ID: <POGRELL.95Jun30110305@bruno.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
References: <3sm4ra$ogv@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> <3snlvf$o9r@vodka.intele.net>
<3sucl3$hgh@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
In-reply-to: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu's message of 29 Jun 1995 14:17:07 GMT
Hallo,
There is a programm called latex2html wich is written in perl.
The description says that it is able to handle math by eventually
converting them to gif using a lot of tools (TeX, dvips, gs, pbmplus).
I wasn't able to get it run because I hadn't the version of dvips
it reqires and so the converting of math failed.
Nevertheless, I think it's a great thing because it even handles my
self-written LaTeX macros by interpreting them itself properly!
Ask archie for it, have fun
Lutz
From: huhr@uni-paderborn.de (Holger Uhr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 30 Jun 1995 09:07:49 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
Message-ID: <3t0et5$sid@news.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <3sti0m$e3u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <DAxGsu.CMy@localhost.com>
Volker Herminghaus (vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de) wrote:
> In article <3sti0m$e3u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel
> Habermann) writes:
> > 3) It would be nice to have a Mouse-Operation for killing an Application.
> > Going through the Menu takes way too long when an App is running wild eating
> > up swap and keeping the paging system thrashing. Could be an expert option
> > in Workspace and be bound to CMD-ALT-Doubleklick on the app icon. (including
> > the asking-panel).
> Why not by dropping the App's icon into the Recycler?
> (BTW don't worry about docked icons disappearing. When they're running,
> they won't be removed from the dock by a simple drag-and-drop anyway.)
> The more I think about this feature the nicer it becomes...
But this would break the metaphor that objects you have put into the Recycler
aren't lost and you can get them out again. You can't reanimate a killed App.
Holger
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org
Subject: Re: ScorePlayer.app
Message-ID: <1995Jun30.084331.19096@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <1995Jun27.220304.12586@free.fdn.org> <DAwG26.Dzv@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:43:31 GMT
Hi,
playscore exist in 3.3 but I cannot find the manual.
fabien@free> which playscore
/usr/bin/playscore
fabien@free> man playscore
No manual entry for playscore.
fabien@free> hostinfo
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Processor active: 0
System type: 3
Board revision: 0x0
Primary memory available: 26.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 63 tasks, 102 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.67, Mach factor: 0.79
fabien@free>
Fabien
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From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsreader - is there a good one out there?
Date: 29 Jun 1995 15:49:49 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3sui2t$ir0@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3q11oi$arq@Venus.mcs.com> <3qhhqh$g5c@neptune.ethz.ch> <3qobhv$f4h@network.ucsd.edu> <3ssgb1$ldh@tauras.vu.lt>
urka@tauras.vu.lt (Peter Urka) wrote:
> Harmon Craig (passim@helium.ucsd.edu) wrote:
> : daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote:
> : > zia@MCS.COM (Zia Bhatti) wrote in comp.sys.next.misc:
> : > : What kind of news readers are available for Next and
> : where?
> You might also want to check ftp.cs.orst.edu for a demo of NutNews, which is
multi-threaded, and MIME capable. Peter.
I think the upload to ftp.cs.orst.edu was corrupt. I just downloaded the
software, and received the following errors attempting to de-archive it:
-------
mathlab41 > ls -l
total 221
85 -rw-r--r-- 1 rdieter wheel 86695 Jun 27 17:57 NutNews.I.tar.gz
136 -rw-r--r-- 1 rdieter wheel 131059 Jun 29 11:04 NutNews.MAB.IM.tar.gz
mathlab41 > gunzip NutNews.I.tar.gz
gunzip: NutNews.I.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error
mathlab41 > gunzip NutNews.MAB.IM.tar.gz
gunzip: NutNews.MAB.IM.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error
mathlab41 > gunzip --version
gunzip 1.2.3 (24 Jun 93)
Compilation options:
SYSDIR STDC_HEADERS HAVE_UNISTD_H
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From: yackd@xmission.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Date: 30 Jun 1995 11:00:37 GMT
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <3t0lgl$398@news.xmission.com>
References: <3sti0m$e3u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <DAxGsu.CMy@localhost.com> <3t0et5$sid@news.uni-paderborn.de>
huhr@uni-paderborn.de (Holger Uhr) wrote:
> Volker Herminghaus (vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de) wrote:
[...on killing apps easily without bringing up the processes panel...]
> > Why not by dropping the App's icon into the Recycler?
> > (BTW don't worry about docked icons disappearing. When they're running,
> > they won't be removed from the dock by a simple drag-and-drop anyway.)
> > The more I think about this feature the nicer it becomes...
> But this would break the metaphor that objects you have put into the Recycler
> aren't lost and you can get them out again. You can't reanimate a killed App.
OK, so use a different animation in this case. Say, for example,
the recycler turns into the Jolly Roger (skull and crossbones)
that's on the processes panel button. Getting a bit more creative,
make the animation be the skull chomping up the app. Well, maybe
that's a bit extreme... :-)
Next, as an addition, have a WorkSpace preference that allows me to
turn on a key like, say, command, to modify the drag of files to
the recycler so that I can destroy them in one step. I find I use
cmd-r more often than the recycler, myself. If a modifier key
could be used to do a destroy...
And, again, the Jolly Roger would be a good icon to change to for
reminding the user of what will happen. In fact, maybe no specific
preference is needed--turn the feature on if UNIX Expert is
checked. At any rate, I would think that this would be something
you'd have to turn on, like the right mouse button, so that
beginners don;t get too confused.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus)
Subject: Re: The UI Improvement Summary (long)
Message-ID: <DAzHKp.I4M@localhost.com>
Sender: vhs@localhost.com (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
References: <3t0et5$sid@news.uni-paderborn.de>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:36:25 GMT
In article <3t0et5$sid@news.uni-paderborn.de> huhr@uni-paderborn.de (Holger
Uhr) writes:
> Volker Herminghaus (vhs@NextDotCom.langen.bull.de) wrote:
> > In article <3sti0m$e3u@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel
> > Habermann) writes:
> > > 3) It would be nice to have a Mouse-Operation for killing an Application.
> > > Going through the Menu takes way too long when an App is running wild
eating
> > > up swap and keeping the paging system thrashing. Could be an expert
option
> > > in Workspace and be bound to CMD-ALT-Doubleklick on the app icon.
(including
> > > the asking-panel).
>
> > Why not by dropping the App's icon into the Recycler?
> > (BTW don't worry about docked icons disappearing. When they're running,
> > they won't be removed from the dock by a simple drag-and-drop anyway.)
>
> > The more I think about this feature the nicer it becomes...
>
> But this would break the metaphor that objects you have put into the Recycler
> aren't lost and you can get them out again. You can't reanimate a killed App.
Yes, you can. By double-clicking. Well, OK, it's previous state is lost...
But can you get a floppy or hard disk out of the recycler after you throw
its icon in? You can't by clicking on the recycler, that much for sure.
So the metaphor already isn't 100%.
Volker
From: robert@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Robert Frank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ChiWriter
Date: 30 Jun 1995 12:43:49 GMT
Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin
Message-ID: <3t0ri5$nr0@fu-berlin.de>
I am not sure if this is the correct group, but I try.
I am looking for a ChiWriter - Textconverting programm.
The program shoul convert ChiWriter Text to any other Windows Textsystem.
I there any?
Thank you for your help.
Robert
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